Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Steve Jones]

Ill have to look

On Aug 28, 2017 5:23 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

> It does show on the AP Side...
>
> Lower right hand of the dashboard  click on the two dots to see the
> different screens ...
>
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, August 28, 2017 6:02:21 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
> I see the power leveling from the client side, would be nice if it showed
> on the AP side, better than nothing though
> On a bright note, getting that relieve/drain replaced was a snap, 5
> minutes on chat and theyre sending a replacement next day 1 in the plus
> column for them for sure
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the explanation, helps us in getting a better understanding of
>> the function and features.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Sunday, August 27, 2017 8:03:41 PM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>> Turning up Tx power for rain fade is called power per mod, ACM power
>> control or more sanely "variable power" as the SAF Luminas call it. ATPC is
>> there to turn the power down when it's too hot. Power control and ATPC are
>> two independent functions in the Lumina, as it should be. SAF did this
>> right. I love the Lumina, except when ACM decides to get stuck. That's my
>> only complaint about it. Well, the buffer is a bit small, but it's only a
>> 360Mbps radio, so it's not too bad with flow control.
>>
>> When you coordinate a path, you can do either fixed or variable power.
>> Obviously the radio will need to support variable.
>>
>> Here's an example from a Trango ApexPlus.
>>
>>
>>
>> Notice that they call it ATPC because that's what Trango ended up doing,
>> adapting their ATPC code for power per mod level. This wasn't supported for
>> the first year or two which was driving a lot of us nuts since the Remec
>> ODU fully supported it.
>>
>> The Exalt ExtendAir G2 is another example. Exalt told me ATPC couldn't do
>> this and I was SOL. So I guess enough of us bitched loud enough because ACM
>> power control is finally supported after three years with the 1.5.0
>> release. I haven't loaded it on any of our radios yet, so we'll see.
>>
>> I don't know what the actual criteria for ATPC declaration is. But I'd
>> imagine something like a really short path, or really large antennas for
>> maximum fade resistance. Maybe the path is engineered for a -20dBm, but
>> some radios don't want any hotter than -30dBm, so you need ATPC to bring it
>> down 10dB. But you still want to be able to run at max EIRP for heavy fade
>> events, so it's coordinated at say 28dBm w/ 8' dishes for that -20dBm RSL,
>> -30dBm ATPC level.
>>
>> On 8/27/2017 5:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>> fair point..
>> I was referring more to the concept of ATPC, which would allow one to
>> turn up the power under signal fade conditions.
>>
>> with the B11, when configured with coordinated power, the signal can be
>> rather Hot, and these radios will (auto) turn down power, and maintain
>> performance.
>>
>> It is not ATPC, but the functionality of needing extra power while
>> maintaining optimum performance is there..
>>
>> The biggest challenge with the Mimosa products is that they are doing
>> things differently, and it can be a challenge in ' translating ' all of
>> there ' feature's into the 'well known' and or 'accepted' features.
>>
>> Not passing judgment on if those features are good or bad, just saying
>> that in trying to gain a better understanding of Mimosa Radios, one has to
>> look at these features in a different light..
>>
>> While they may not be your 'cup of tea'  or they may not be 'the best'
>&

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Faisal Imtiaz]

It does show on the AP Side... 

Lower right hand of the dashboard  click on the two dots to see the 
different screens ... 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 6:02:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> I see the power leveling from the client side, would be nice if it showed on 
> the
> AP side, better than nothing though
> On a bright note, getting that relieve/drain replaced was a snap, 5 minutes on
> chat and theyre sending a replacement next day 1 in the plus column for them
> for sure

> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
> wrote:

>> Thanks for the explanation, helps us in getting a better understanding of the
>> function and features.

>> :)

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "George Skorup" < george.sko...@cbcast.com >
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 8:03:41 PM

>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>> Turning up Tx power for rain fade is called power per mod, ACM power 
>>> control or
>>> more sanely "variable power" as the SAF Luminas call it. ATPC is there to 
>>> turn
>>> the power down when it's too hot. Power control and ATPC are two independent
>>> functions in the Lumina, as it should be. SAF did this right. I love the
>>> Lumina, except when ACM decides to get stuck. That's my only complaint about
>>> it. Well, the buffer is a bit small, but it's only a 360Mbps radio, so it's 
>>> not
>>> too bad with flow control.

>>> When you coordinate a path, you can do either fixed or variable power. 
>>> Obviously
>>> the radio will need to support variable.

>>> Here's an example from a Trango ApexPlus.

>>> Notice that they call it ATPC because that's what Trango ended up doing,
>>> adapting their ATPC code for power per mod level. This wasn't supported for 
>>> the
>>> first year or two which was driving a lot of us nuts since the Remec ODU 
>>> fully
>>> supported it.

>>> The Exalt ExtendAir G2 is another example. Exalt told me ATPC couldn't do 
>>> this
>>> and I was SOL. So I guess enough of us bitched loud enough because ACM power
>>> control is finally supported after three years with the 1.5.0 release. I
>>> haven't loaded it on any of our radios yet, so we'll see.

>>> I don't know what the actual criteria for ATPC declaration is. But I'd 
>>> imagine
>>> something like a really short path, or really large antennas for maximum 
>>> fade
>>> resistance. Maybe the path is engineered for a -20dBm, but some radios don't
>>> want any hotter than -30dBm, so you need ATPC to bring it down 10dB. But you
>>> still want to be able to run at max EIRP for heavy fade events, so it's
>>> coordinated at say 28dBm w/ 8' dishes for that -20dBm RSL, -30dBm ATPC 
>>> level.

>>> On 8/27/2017 5:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

>>>> fair point..
>>>> I was referring more to the concept of ATPC, which would allow one to turn 
>>>> up
>>>> the power under signal fade conditions.

>>>> with the B11, when configured with coordinated power, the signal can be 
>>>> rather
>>>> Hot, and these radios will (auto) turn down power, and maintain 
>>>> performance.

>>>> It is not ATPC, but the functionality of needing extra power while 
>>>> maintaining
>>>> optimum performance is there..

>>>> The biggest challenge with the Mimosa products is that they are doing 
>>>> things
>>>> differently, and it can be a challenge in ' translating ' all of there '
>>>> feature's into the 'well known' and or 'accepted' features.

>>>> Not passing judgment on if those features are good or bad, just saying 
>>>> that in
>>>> trying to gain a better understanding of Mimosa Radios, one has to look at
>>>> these features in a different light..

>>>> While they may not be your 'cup of tea' or they may not be 'the best' 
>>>> radio for
>>>> a particular application, they fit a requirement niche very well.

&g

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Thanks for the explanation, helps us in getting a better understanding of the 
function and features. 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 8:03:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> Turning up Tx power for rain fade is called power per mod, ACM power control 
> or
> more sanely "variable power" as the SAF Luminas call it. ATPC is there to turn
> the power down when it's too hot. Power control and ATPC are two independent
> functions in the Lumina, as it should be. SAF did this right. I love the
> Lumina, except when ACM decides to get stuck. That's my only complaint about
> it. Well, the buffer is a bit small, but it's only a 360Mbps radio, so it's 
> not
> too bad with flow control.

> When you coordinate a path, you can do either fixed or variable power. 
> Obviously
> the radio will need to support variable.

> Here's an example from a Trango ApexPlus.

> Notice that they call it ATPC because that's what Trango ended up doing,
> adapting their ATPC code for power per mod level. This wasn't supported for 
> the
> first year or two which was driving a lot of us nuts since the Remec ODU fully
> supported it.

> The Exalt ExtendAir G2 is another example. Exalt told me ATPC couldn't do this
> and I was SOL. So I guess enough of us bitched loud enough because ACM power
> control is finally supported after three years with the 1.5.0 release. I
> haven't loaded it on any of our radios yet, so we'll see.

> I don't know what the actual criteria for ATPC declaration is. But I'd imagine
> something like a really short path, or really large antennas for maximum fade
> resistance. Maybe the path is engineered for a -20dBm, but some radios don't
> want any hotter than -30dBm, so you need ATPC to bring it down 10dB. But you
> still want to be able to run at max EIRP for heavy fade events, so it's
> coordinated at say 28dBm w/ 8' dishes for that -20dBm RSL, -30dBm ATPC level.

> On 8/27/2017 5:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

>> fair point..
>> I was referring more to the concept of ATPC, which would allow one to turn up
>> the power under signal fade conditions.

>> with the B11, when configured with coordinated power, the signal can be 
>> rather
>> Hot, and these radios will (auto) turn down power, and maintain performance.

>> It is not ATPC, but the functionality of needing extra power while 
>> maintaining
>> optimum performance is there..

>> The biggest challenge with the Mimosa products is that they are doing things
>> differently, and it can be a challenge in ' translating ' all of there '
>> feature's into the 'well known' and or 'accepted' features.

>> Not passing judgment on if those features are good or bad, just saying that 
>> in
>> trying to gain a better understanding of Mimosa Radios, one has to look at
>> these features in a different light..

>> While they may not be your 'cup of tea' or they may not be 'the best' radio 
>> for
>> a particular application, they fit a requirement niche very well.

>> :)

>> Regards.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 5:24:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>> Part 101 says you should run your systems at the coordinated power levels 
>>> unless
>>> ATPC is explicitly declared. Just sayin.

>>> On 8/27/2017 12:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

>>>> FYI, ATPC (Automatic Transmit Power Control) is practiced by the Mimosa 
>>>> B11 but
>>>> it is done a bit differently.

>>>> First of all There is a function built into the Mimosa B11 which 
>>>> allows them
>>>> to back off Tx Power.
>>>> (Latest firmware).
>>>> 2nd, The Mimosa Radios have an uncanny ability to deal with Hot Signals and
>>>> still keep offering best performance (-30 !)

>>>> With Older firmware, a couple of versions back, the ideal sweet spot for
>>>> performance was with an SNR of 34-36 .. but in the last couple of firmware
>>>> updates they have improved performance with Hot signals and a High SNR.

>>>> Feel free to test it ... :)

>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

hahaha - that brings back memories!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck McCown 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 8:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11


  Did  you ever use the original ePMP?

  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

  ill have to look into browser

  by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login 
screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, 
unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

  at least its not java, ill give it that

  I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.


  On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say 
it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s. 

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If the 
AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect. 



Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that 
is any different than anyone else.

As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save 
button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

Rory






From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11



very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor

web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue 
no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are 
going in a redundant path



essids reverting to factory... awesome



I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to 
do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute 
process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting 
chucked through a window



seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking 
stupid is that.



now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz 
link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. 
wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I 
should have researched more



the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for 
the epmp



reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if 
I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house 
and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.



I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of 
antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Faisal Imtiaz]

fair point.. 
I was referring more to the concept of ATPC, which would allow one to turn up 
the power under signal fade conditions. 

with the B11, when configured with coordinated power, the signal can be rather 
Hot, and these radios will (auto) turn down power, and maintain performance. 

It is not ATPC, but the functionality of needing extra power while maintaining 
optimum performance is there.. 

The biggest challenge with the Mimosa products is that they are doing things 
differently, and it can be a challenge in ' translating ' all of there ' 
feature's into the 'well known' and or 'accepted' features. 

Not passing judgment on if those features are good or bad, just saying that in 
trying to gain a better understanding of Mimosa Radios, one has to look at 
these features in a different light.. 

While they may not be your 'cup of tea' or they may not be 'the best' radio for 
a particular application, they fit a requirement niche very well. 

:) 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 5:24:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> Part 101 says you should run your systems at the coordinated power levels 
> unless
> ATPC is explicitly declared. Just sayin.

> On 8/27/2017 12:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

>> FYI, ATPC (Automatic Transmit Power Control) is practiced by the Mimosa B11 
>> but
>> it is done a bit differently.

>> First of all There is a function built into the Mimosa B11 which allows 
>> them
>> to back off Tx Power.
>> (Latest firmware).
>> 2nd, The Mimosa Radios have an uncanny ability to deal with Hot Signals and
>> still keep offering best performance (-30 !)

>> With Older firmware, a couple of versions back, the ideal sweet spot for
>> performance was with an SNR of 34-36 .. but in the last couple of firmware
>> updates they have improved performance with Hot signals and a High SNR.

>> Feel free to test it ... :)

>> Regards.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 1:17:21 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>> Is that a common practice? And doesn’t that add to the cost on both a 
>>> monthly
>>> basis (tower costs if you rent) and the Capex? Do you find it is worth that
>>> additional cost?

>>> Rory

>>> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 7:59 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>> ...

>>> You over engineer the link. Run the damn thing at like half power and still 
>>> hit
>>> a -50 or whatever the sweet spot is, and adjust your ATPC to compensate for
>>> fade up to $level to where you can hit the modulation and still be legal.

>>> On Aug 27, 2017 9:55 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:

>>> Then what is the value of ATPC on a licensed link?

>>> Rory

>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com >
>>> Date: 8/26/2017 8:57 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>> To: af < af@afmug.com >
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>> No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case.

>>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:

>>> So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power on a
>>> licensed link above the stated limits?

>>> Rory

>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM
>>> To: af
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>> You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're done 
>>> with
>>> it.

>>> You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain fade... 
>>> you
>>> need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if the radios 
>>> can't
>>> run at full modulation at full power.

>>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:

>>> The WiFi will find the cleanest channe

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Faisal Imtiaz]

FYI, ATPC (Automatic Transmit Power Control) is practiced by the Mimosa B11 but 
it is done a bit differently. 

First of all There is a function built into the Mimosa B11 which allows 
them to back off Tx Power. 
(Latest firmware). 
2nd, The Mimosa Radios have an uncanny ability to deal with Hot Signals and 
still keep offering best performance (-30 !) 

With Older firmware, a couple of versions back, the ideal sweet spot for 
performance was with an SNR of 34-36 .. but in the last couple of firmware 
updates they have improved performance with Hot signals and a High SNR. 

Feel free to test it ... :) 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 1:17:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> Is that a common practice? And doesn’t that add to the cost on both a monthly
> basis (tower costs if you rent) and the Capex? Do you find it is worth that
> additional cost?

> Rory

> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 7:59 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> ...

> You over engineer the link. Run the damn thing at like half power and still 
> hit
> a -50 or whatever the sweet spot is, and adjust your ATPC to compensate for
> fade up to $level to where you can hit the modulation and still be legal.

> On Aug 27, 2017 9:55 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:

> Then what is the value of ATPC on a licensed link?

> Rory

>  Original message 
> From: Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com >
> Date: 8/26/2017 8:57 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: af < af@afmug.com >
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case.

> On Aug 26, 2017 10:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:

> So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power on a
> licensed link above the stated limits?

> Rory

> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM
> To: af
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're done 
> with
> it.

> You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain fade... 
> you
> need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if the radios 
> can't
> run at full modulation at full power.

> On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:

> The WiFi will find the cleanest channel.

> Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though. The power setting is
> pre-determined. How does ATPC play into this?

> Rory

> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can already 
> see
> how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung, the low power
> wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot harvestore. Hows this
> work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a 2.4 cluster?

> Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when we
> start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight, pretty
> sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever.

> On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote:

> I think Steve may have wrestled with it !..

> Ducking !

> :)

> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>> From: "Jaime Fink" < ja...@mimosa.co >
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>> No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's 
>> not
>> under pressure in shipment.

>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, " ch...@wbmfg.com " < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

>>> If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could 
>>> cause
>>> the pop off.

>>> From: Steve Jones

>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM

>>> To: af@afmug.com

>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" < ja...@mimosa.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[chuck]

But with three nines, the outage may be 1 second long outages 43 times a day.
Or perhaps they are 1 millisecond outages every other second.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 11:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

Depends on how much you value sleeping at night.

Five nines of reliability gets you a calculated 5 minutes of downtime per year.

Three nines gets you a calculated 4-1/2 hours of downtime per year.

How much is the extra 4 hours and 25 minutes worth to you?

NOTE: All times are approximate.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 8/27/2017 10:17 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

  Is that a common practice?  And doesn’t that add to the cost on both a 
monthly basis (tower costs if you rent) and the Capex?  Do you find it is worth 
that additional cost?

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Josh Reynolds]

Of course it's common practice. It can, but not normally. You're often
paying for the mounting location or level, not a minor increase in dish
size if that is even needed.

On Aug 27, 2017 12:17 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> Is that a common practice?  And doesn’t that add to the cost on both a
> monthly basis (tower costs if you rent) and the Capex?  Do you find it is
> worth that additional cost?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 27, 2017 7:59 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> ...
>
>
>
> You over engineer the link. Run the damn thing at like half power and
> still hit a -50 or whatever the sweet spot is, and adjust your ATPC to
> compensate for fade up to $level to where you can hit the modulation and
> still be legal.
>
>
>
> On Aug 27, 2017 9:55 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> Then what is the value of ATPC on a licensed link?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> ---- Original message 
> From: Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> Date: 8/26/2017 8:57 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: af <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
> No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case.
>
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 10:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power on
> a licensed link above the stated limits?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're done
> with it.
>
>
>
> You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain
> fade... you need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if
> the radios can't run at full modulation at full power.
>
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> The WiFi will find the cleanest channel.
>
>
>
> Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though.  The power setting is
> pre-determined.  How does ATPC play into this?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can
> already see how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung,
> the low power wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot
> harvestore. Hows this work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a
> 2.4 cluster?
>
>
>
> Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when
> we start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight,
> pretty sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>
> I think Steve may have wrestled with it  !..
>
>
>
>
>
> Ducking !
>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
> No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's
> not under pressure in shipment.
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could
> cause the pop off.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co> wrote:
>
> Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's
> extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box,
> first one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air
> pressure would just pop the tape

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Bill Prince]

Depends on how much you value sleeping at night.

Five nines of reliability gets you a calculated 5 minutes of downtime 
per year.


Three nines gets you a calculated 4-1/2 hours of downtime per year.

How much is the extra 4 hours and 25 minutes worth to you?

NOTE: All times are approximate.


bp


On 8/27/2017 10:17 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
Is that a common practice?  And doesn’t that add to the cost on both a 
monthly basis (tower costs if you rent) and the Capex? Do you find it 
is worth that additional cost?

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Rory Conaway]

Is that a common practice?  And doesn’t that add to the cost on both a monthly 
basis (tower costs if you rent) and the Capex?  Do you find it is worth that 
additional cost?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 7:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

...

You over engineer the link. Run the damn thing at like half power and still hit 
a -50 or whatever the sweet spot is, and adjust your ATPC to compensate for 
fade up to $level to where you can hit the modulation and still be legal.

On Aug 27, 2017 9:55 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Then what is the value of ATPC on a licensed link?

Rory


 Original message 
From: Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>
Date: 8/26/2017 8:57 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case.

On Aug 26, 2017 10:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power on a 
licensed link above the stated limits?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're done with 
it.

You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain fade... you 
need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if the radios can't 
run at full modulation at full power.

On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
The WiFi will find the cleanest channel.

Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though.  The power setting is 
pre-determined.  How does ATPC play into this?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can already see 
how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung, the low power 
wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot harvestore. Hows this 
work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a 2.4 cluster?

Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when we 
start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight, pretty 
sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever.



On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
I think Steve may have wrestled with it  !..


Ducking !

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:(305)%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's not 
under pressure in shipment.

On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could cause 
the pop off.

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11


On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" 
<ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>> wrote:
Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's 
extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box, first 
one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air pressure 
would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture wouldn't be able 
to escape.

Just contact them on chat on our site.

Jaime

On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These will 
blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when it falls 
off in the box, its not staying on anywhere

On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
It is a pressure relieve valve and also a mo

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Josh Reynolds]

...

You over engineer the link. Run the damn thing at like half power and still
hit a -50 or whatever the sweet spot is, and adjust your ATPC to compensate
for fade up to $level to where you can hit the modulation and still be
legal.

On Aug 27, 2017 9:55 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> Then what is the value of ATPC on a licensed link?
>
> Rory
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> Date: 8/26/2017 8:57 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: af <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
> No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case.
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 10:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power on
>> a licensed link above the stated limits?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're
>> done with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain
>> fade... you need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if
>> the radios can't run at full modulation at full power.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> The WiFi will find the cleanest channel.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though.  The power setting
>> is pre-determined.  How does ATPC play into this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can
>> already see how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung,
>> the low power wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot
>> harvestore. Hows this work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a
>> 2.4 cluster?
>>
>>
>>
>> Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when
>> we start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight,
>> pretty sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I think Steve may have wrestled with it  !..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ducking !
>>
>>
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>> No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release,
>> it's not under pressure in shipment.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could
>> cause the pop off.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co> wrote:
>>
>> Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's
>> extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box,
>> first one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air
>> pressure would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture
>> wouldn't be able to escape.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just contact them on chat on our site.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jaime
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Rory Conaway]

When the coordinator creates the link, that should be calculated in the path 
budget.   I’m assuming the power output at maximum modulation is part of that 
calculation.  I’ve only done 3 links and have never seen any need for ATPC.  
They all came in at the maximum modulation rate of the antenna, even our 
shortest one at 5 miles.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

No, an overpowered transmitter with a hot rx will screw rhings up, best to let 
a more versed and talented person explain that than i. Theses things srent full 
duplex so it will be worse, again let a person who better understands it 
explain it. Our saf in normal operation is always running about 13db output 
less than max. If i lock them at full powere, which results in a low -40 they 
perform like hammered shit, turn up atpc at -55 and jesus smiles. And a ton of 
margin.
Like anything else with regs, theres a max tx.
Without any automagic power controls, too much power is going to fresh prison 
inmate the modulation and capacity. I dont make the rulea, i just follow them. 
I also still dont buy that this link, licensed in corn fields has a noise floor 
in the 80s. Ill about guarantee if i shut down my 5ghz gear it will be in the 
90s like it was in the shop yesterday where there isnt any 5ghz.
Ubnt all over again, only with the fcc getting their cut

On Aug 26, 2017 10:58 PM, "Mathew Howard" 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case.

On Aug 26, 2017 10:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power on a 
licensed link above the stated limits?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're done with 
it.

You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain fade... you 
need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if the radios can't 
run at full modulation at full power.

On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
The WiFi will find the cleanest channel.

Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though.  The power setting is 
pre-determined.  How does ATPC play into this?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can already see 
how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung, the low power 
wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot harvestore. Hows this 
work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a 2.4 cluster?

Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when we 
start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight, pretty 
sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever.



On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
I think Steve may have wrestled with it  !..


Ducking !

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:(305)%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's not 
under pressure in shipment.

On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could cause 
the pop off.

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11


On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" 
<ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>> wrote:
Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's 
extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box, first 
one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air pressure 
would just pop the tape off and any condensatio

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Rory Conaway]

Then what is the value of ATPC on a licensed link?

Rory


 Original message 
From: Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
Date: 8/26/2017 8:57 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: af <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case.

On Aug 26, 2017 10:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power on a 
licensed link above the stated limits?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're done with 
it.

You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain fade... you 
need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if the radios can't 
run at full modulation at full power.

On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
The WiFi will find the cleanest channel.

Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though.  The power setting is 
pre-determined.  How does ATPC play into this?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can already see 
how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung, the low power 
wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot harvestore. Hows this 
work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a 2.4 cluster?

Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when we 
start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight, pretty 
sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever.



On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
I think Steve may have wrestled with it  !..


Ducking !

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:(305)%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's not 
under pressure in shipment.

On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could cause 
the pop off.

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11


On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" 
<ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>> wrote:
Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's 
extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box, first 
one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air pressure 
would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture wouldn't be able 
to escape.

Just contact them on chat on our site.

Jaime

On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These will 
blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when it falls 
off in the box, its not staying on anywhere

On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole..
Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:(305)%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Steve Jones" 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off and i 
cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what

On Fri, 

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Steve Jones]

No, an overpowered transmitter with a hot rx will screw rhings up, best to
let a more versed and talented person explain that than i. Theses things
srent full duplex so it will be worse, again let a person who better
understands it explain it. Our saf in normal operation is always running
about 13db output less than max. If i lock them at full powere, which
results in a low -40 they perform like hammered shit, turn up atpc at -55
and jesus smiles. And a ton of margin.
Like anything else with regs, theres a max tx.
Without any automagic power controls, too much power is going to fresh
prison inmate the modulation and capacity. I dont make the rulea, i just
follow them. I also still dont buy that this link, licensed in corn fields
has a noise floor in the 80s. Ill about guarantee if i shut down my 5ghz
gear it will be in the 90s like it was in the shop yesterday where there
isnt any 5ghz.
Ubnt all over again, only with the fcc getting their cut

On Aug 26, 2017 10:58 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case.
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 10:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power on
>> a licensed link above the stated limits?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're
>> done with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain
>> fade... you need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if
>> the radios can't run at full modulation at full power.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> The WiFi will find the cleanest channel.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though.  The power setting
>> is pre-determined.  How does ATPC play into this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can
>> already see how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung,
>> the low power wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot
>> harvestore. Hows this work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a
>> 2.4 cluster?
>>
>>
>>
>> Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when
>> we start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight,
>> pretty sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I think Steve may have wrestled with it  !..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ducking !
>>
>>
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>> No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release,
>> it's not under pressure in shipment.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could
>> cause the pop off.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co> wrote:
>>
>> Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's
>> extraordinar

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Mathew Howard]

No, it would be licensed for the max the radio can do, in that case.

On Aug 26, 2017 10:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power on
> a licensed link above the stated limits?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're done
> with it.
>
>
>
> You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain
> fade... you need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if
> the radios can't run at full modulation at full power.
>
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> The WiFi will find the cleanest channel.
>
>
>
> Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though.  The power setting is
> pre-determined.  How does ATPC play into this?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can
> already see how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung,
> the low power wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot
> harvestore. Hows this work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a
> 2.4 cluster?
>
>
>
> Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when
> we start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight,
> pretty sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>
> I think Steve may have wrestled with it  !..
>
>
>
>
>
> Ducking !
>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
> No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's
> not under pressure in shipment.
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could
> cause the pop off.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co> wrote:
>
> Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's
> extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box,
> first one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air
> pressure would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture
> wouldn't be able to escape.
>
>
>
> Just contact them on chat on our site.
>
>
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These
> will blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when
> it falls off in the box, its not staying on anywhere
>
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
>
> It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole..
>
> Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
> what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off
> and i cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Rory Conaway]

So legally if you have rain fade, you are allowed to turn up the power on a 
licensed link above the stated limits?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:49 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're done with 
it.

You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain fade... you 
need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if the radios can't 
run at full modulation at full power.

On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
The WiFi will find the cleanest channel.

Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though.  The power setting is 
pre-determined.  How does ATPC play into this?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can already see 
how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung, the low power 
wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot harvestore. Hows this 
work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a 2.4 cluster?

Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when we 
start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight, pretty 
sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever.



On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
I think Steve may have wrestled with it  !..


Ducking !

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:(305)%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's not 
under pressure in shipment.

On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could cause 
the pop off.

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11


On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" 
<ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>> wrote:
Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's 
extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box, first 
one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air pressure 
would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture wouldn't be able 
to escape.

Just contact them on chat on our site.

Jaime

On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These will 
blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when it falls 
off in the box, its not staying on anywhere

On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole..
Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:(305)%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>

____
From: "Steve Jones" 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off and i 
cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can program a 
Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s what I call 
efficiency in terms of training.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Mathew Howard]

You can also disable the wifi, so it never turns back on, once you're done
with it.

You would want ATPC so the radios can turn the power up during rain fade...
you need it if the signal is normally tol hot at full power, or if the
radios can't run at full modulation at full power.

On Aug 26, 2017 10:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> The WiFi will find the cleanest channel.
>
>
>
> Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though.  The power setting is
> pre-determined.  How does ATPC play into this?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can
> already see how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung,
> the low power wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot
> harvestore. Hows this work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a
> 2.4 cluster?
>
>
>
> Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when
> we start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight,
> pretty sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>
> I think Steve may have wrestled with it  !..
>
>
>
>
>
> Ducking !
>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
> No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's
> not under pressure in shipment.
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could
> cause the pop off.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co> wrote:
>
> Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's
> extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box,
> first one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air
> pressure would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture
> wouldn't be able to escape.
>
>
>
> Just contact them on chat on our site.
>
>
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These
> will blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when
> it falls off in the box, its not staying on anywhere
>
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
>
> It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole..
>
> Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
> what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off
> and i cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can program
> a Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s what I
> call efficiency in terms of training.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Rory Conaway]

The WiFi will find the cleanest channel.

Not sure our ATPC helps with a licensed link though.  The power setting is 
pre-determined.  How does ATPC play into this?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 8:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can already see 
how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung, the low power 
wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot harvestore. Hows this 
work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a 2.4 cluster?

Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when we 
start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight, pretty 
sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever.



On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
I think Steve may have wrestled with it  !..


Ducking !

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:(305)%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's not 
under pressure in shipment.

On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could cause 
the pop off.

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11


On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" 
<ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>> wrote:
Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's 
extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box, first 
one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air pressure 
would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture wouldn't be able 
to escape.

Just contact them on chat on our site.

Jaime

On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These will 
blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when it falls 
off in the box, its not staying on anywhere

On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole..
Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:(305)%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>

________
From: "Steve Jones" 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off and i 
cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can program a 
Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s what I call 
efficiency in terms of training.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific knowledge 
is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly a rocket ship, 
but still...

PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?

On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a field 
issue.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

That's not necessarily a good thing.

On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.n

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Steve Jones]

The wifi alignment updates after 3 seconds, not one, i found. I can already
see how pissed no atpc will make me. But one link of two are hung, the low
power wireless works good, even on the ground of a 100 foot harvestore.
Hows this work if it reboots and runs the wifi when you have a 2.4 cluster?

Things im not complaning about, the sfp port cover, i dig that, and when we
start rolling fiber i tike that the boot will go into liquid tight, pretty
sweet. The ethernet boot is probably the most user friendly one ever.



On Aug 26, 2017 8:05 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

> I think Steve may have wrestled with it  !..
>
>
> Ducking !
>
> :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
> No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's
> not under pressure in shipment.
>
> On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could
> cause the pop off.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co> wrote:
>
>> Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's
>> extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box,
>> first one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air
>> pressure would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture
>> wouldn't be able to escape.
>>
>> Just contact them on chat on our site.
>>
>> Jaime
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These
>> will blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when
>> it falls off in the box, its not staying on anywhere
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole..
>>> Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>>
>>> what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came
>>> off and i cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can
>>>> program a Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s
>>>> what I call efficiency in terms of training.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific
>>>> knowledge is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly
>>>> a rocket ship, but still...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a
>&

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Faisal Imtiaz]

I think Steve may have wrestled with it !.. 

Ducking ! 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:59:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's not
> under pressure in shipment.

> On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, " ch...@wbmfg.com " < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

>> If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could cause
>> the pop off.
>> From: Steve Jones
>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" < ja...@mimosa.co > wrote:

>>> Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's
>>> extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box, first
>>> one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air 
>>> pressure
>>> would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture wouldn't be 
>>> able
>>> to escape.
>>> Just contact them on chat on our site.
>>> Jaime

>>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
>>> wrote:

>>>> The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These 
>>>> will blow
>>>> off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when it falls 
>>>> off in
>>>> the box, its not staying on anywhere
>>>> On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
>>>> wrote:

>>>>> It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole..
>>>>> Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone.
>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>>>>> From: "Steve Jones" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>>>> what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came 
>>>>>> off and i
>>>>>> cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > 
>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11. Hell, if you can 
>>>>>>> program a
>>>>>>> Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work. That’s what I 
>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>> efficiency in terms of training.

>>>>>>> Rory

>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>>>>> What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific 
>>>>>>> knowledge is
>>>>>>> not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly a rocket 
>>>>>>> ship,
>>>>>>> but still...

>>>>>>> PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?

>>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a 
>>>>>>>> field
>>>>>>>> issue.

>>>>>>>> Rory

>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>>>>>> That's not necessarily a good thing.

>>>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>&

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Jaime Fink]

No the whole point of these is air pressure and condensation release, it's not 
under pressure in shipment.

On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could cause 
the pop off.

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11


On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co> wrote:
Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's 
extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box, first 
one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air pressure 
would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture wouldn't be able 
to escape.

Just contact them on chat on our site.

Jaime

On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These will 
blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when it falls 
off in the box, its not staying on anywhere

On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole..
Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:(305)%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off and i 
cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can program a 
Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s what I call 
efficiency in terms of training.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific knowledge 
is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly a rocket ship, 
but still...

PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?

On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a field 
issue.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

That's not necessarily a good thing.

On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training versus the 
crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining about that?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window

On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good

On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Did  you ever use the original ePMP?

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

ill have to look into browser

by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login 
screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, 
unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

at least its not java, ill give it that

I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.


On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say it’s 
clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If the AP 
is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect.

Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that is 
any different than anyone else.

As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save button 
doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets y

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[chuck]

If they are shipped in the non pressurized hold of an aircraft it could cause 
the pop off.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11


On Aug 26, 2017 10:54 AM, "Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co> wrote:

  Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's 
extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box, first 
one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air pressure 
would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture wouldn't be able 
to escape. 

  Just contact them on chat on our site.  

  Jaime

  On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:


The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These will 
blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when it falls 
off in the box, its not staying on anywhere

On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

  It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole..
  Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone.

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came 
off and i cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what


On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> 
wrote:

  If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can 
program a Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s what I 
call efficiency in terms of training.



  Rory  



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
  Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
      To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11



  What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific 
knowledge is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly a 
rocket ship, but still...



  PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?



  On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
wrote:

It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is 
a field issue.



Rory



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11



That's not necessarily a good thing.



On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
wrote:

  Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no 
training versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are 
complaining about that?



  Rory



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
      Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11



  I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window



  On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
wrote:

  BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.   



  Rory



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
      Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11



  Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good



  On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Did  you ever use the original ePMP?



  From: Steve Jones 

          Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11



  ill have to look into browser



  by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went 
to the login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears 
quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought



  at least its not java, ill give it that



  I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the 
interface.





  On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

  Steve, you are mistaken on a cou

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Jaime Fink]

Pretty sure support can send you a spare of the IP67 gore vent. It's 
extraordinarily rare that the top cap of the vent pops off in the box, first 
one I've heard of myself, and you don't want to tape it up as any air pressure 
would just pop the tape off and any condensation or moisture wouldn't be able 
to escape.

Just contact them on chat on our site.

Jaime

On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Steve Jones 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These will 
blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when it falls 
off in the box, its not staying on anywhere

On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole..
Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:(305)%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Steve Jones" 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off and i 
cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can program a 
Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s what I call 
efficiency in terms of training.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific knowledge 
is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly a rocket ship, 
but still...

PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?

On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a field 
issue.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

That's not necessarily a good thing.

On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training versus the 
crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining about that?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window

On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good

On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Did  you ever use the original ePMP?

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

ill have to look into browser

by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login 
screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, 
unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

at least its not java, ill give it that

I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.


On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say it’s 
clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If the AP 
is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect.

Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that 

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Your picture is not very clear... not sure what broke off. 
I would suggest that you contact Mimosa Support (online via their support web 
site) and ask them about it...) 

They can send you a replacement piece if it is functional than cosmetic. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 11:39:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These will 
> blow
> off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when it falls off 
> in
> the box, its not staying on anywhere

> On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote:

>> It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole..
>> Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Steve Jones" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>> what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off 
>>> and i
>>> cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what

>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > 
>>> wrote:

>>>> If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11. Hell, if you can program a
>>>> Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work. That’s what I call
>>>> efficiency in terms of training.

>>>> Rory

>>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>> What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific 
>>>> knowledge is
>>>> not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly a rocket 
>>>> ship,
>>>> but still...

>>>> PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?

>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:
>>>>> It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a 
>>>>> field
>>>>> issue.

>>>>> Rory

>>>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>>> That's not necessarily a good thing.

>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:
>>>>>> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training 
>>>>>> versus the
>>>>>> crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining about that?

>>>>>> Rory

>>>>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>>>> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window

>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:

>>>>>> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.

>>>>>> Rory

>>>>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>>>> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good

>>>>>> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

>>>>>> Did you ever use the original ePMP?

>>>>>> From: Steve Jones

>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM

>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com

>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>>>> ill have to look into browser

>>>>>> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the 
>>&

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Steve Jones]

The little black cover fell off, the retention nuts still there. These will
blow off in the wind anyway, i just wont tape over it. I figure when it
falls off in the box, its not staying on anywhere

On Aug 26, 2017 10:28 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

> It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole..
> Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
> what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off
> and i cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
>> If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can program
>> a Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s what I
>> call efficiency in terms of training.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific
>> knowledge is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly
>> a rocket ship, but still...
>>
>>
>>
>> PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a
>> field issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> That's not necessarily a good thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training
>> versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining
>> about that?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> ill have to look into browser
>>
>>
>>
>> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
>> login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
>> quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought
>>
>>
>>
>> at least its not java, ill give it that
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
>> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>>
>> As for our sta

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Faisal Imtiaz]

It is a pressure relieve valve and also a moisture drainage hole.. 
Don't mess with it, don't cover it .. leave it alone. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:28:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off and 
> i
> cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what

> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > 
> wrote:

>> If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11. Hell, if you can program a
>> Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work. That’s what I call
>> efficiency in terms of training.

>> Rory

>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>> What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific 
>> knowledge is
>> not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly a rocket ship,
>> but still...

>> PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?

>> On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:
>>> It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a field
>>> issue.

>>> Rory

>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>> That's not necessarily a good thing.

>>> On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:
>>>> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training 
>>>> versus the
>>>> crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining about that?

>>>> Rory

>>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window

>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote:

>>>> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.

>>>> Rory

>>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good

>>>> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

>>>> Did you ever use the original ePMP?

>>>> From: Steve Jones

>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM

>>>> To: af@afmug.com

>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>> ill have to look into browser

>>>> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the 
>>>> login
>>>> screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality,
>>>> unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

>>>> at least its not java, ill give it that

>>>> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.

>>>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > 
>>>> wrote:

>>>> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things. I’m not sure how you say 
>>>> it’s
>>>> clunky. It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.

>>>> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false. If the 
>>>> AP is
>>>> on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect.

>>>> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how 
>>>> that is
>>>> any different than anyone else.

>>>> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome. If you use IE, then the save 
>>>> button
>>>> doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

>>>> Rory

>>>> From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>> very unimpressed 

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Mike Hammett]

More link budget. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:58:48 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 


What makes it more advanced than the SIAE AlfoPlus2? 






On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Dragonwave's radio is the most advanced in the industry at the moment as well 
as being competitively priced among the higher tier. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 1:02:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 


Dragon what now? Isn't that the radio people used in the past :P 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > 
wrote: 





Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training versus the 
crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining about that? 

Rory 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM 


To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 





I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window 



On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote: 


BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2. 

Rory 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 


Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good 



On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 




Did you ever use the original ePMP? 






From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM 

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 





ill have to look into browser 



by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login 
screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, 
unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought 



at least its not java, ill give it that 



I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface. 






On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > 
wrote: 


Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things. I’m not sure how you say it’s 
clunky. It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s. 

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false. If the AP 
is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect. 

Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that is 
any different than anyone else. 

As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome. If you use IE, then the save button 
doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want. 

Rory 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 



very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor 

web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no 
getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are 
going in a redundant path 



essids reverting to factory... awesome 



I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to do 
a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute 
process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting 
chucked through a window 



seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking stupid 
is that. 



now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link 
going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. 
wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I 
should have researched more 



the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for the 
epmp 



reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I 
ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house 
and let them know whats going on before it comes back up. 



I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas 
though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on. 

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Eric Kuhnke]

What makes it more advanced than the SIAE AlfoPlus2?



On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Dragonwave's radio is the most advanced in the industry at the moment as
> well as being competitively priced among the higher tier.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, August 25, 2017 1:02:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
> Dragon what now?  Isn't that the radio people used in the past :P
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training
>> versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining
>> about that?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> ill have to look into browser
>>
>>
>>
>> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
>> login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
>> quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought
>>
>>
>>
>> at least its not java, ill give it that
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
>> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>>
>> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If
>> the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and
>> connect.
>>
>>
>>
>> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how
>> that is any different than anyone else.
>>
>> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save
>> button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
>>
>> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any
>> issue no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad
>> these are going in a redundan

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Mathew Howard]

Ah, I see... I just looked at my spare. That whole thing screws out, and
there's just an open hole, so yeah, it's just a vent/drain. I can't tell
exactly how much of it's gone in your picture, but as long as there isn't a
hole big enough for bugs to get in, I'd think it would be fine. I assume
they put it there for a reason, so you probably don't want to completely
seal the hole up.

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Its busted, was just thin plastic holding it on, a good wind would have
> took it off anyway
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah... I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it is. I'd just put it back
>> in, if you can.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have never seen one but it sounds like a pressure relief/drain.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:28 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came
>>>> off and i cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can
>>>>> program a Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s
>>>>> what I call efficiency in terms of training.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific
>>>>> knowledge is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly
>>>>> a rocket ship, but still...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a
>>>>> field issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not necessarily a good thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training
>>>>> versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining
>>>>> about that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
&g

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah... I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it is. I'd just put it back in,
if you can.

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have never seen one but it sounds like a pressure relief/drain.
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:28 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off
>> and i cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can
>>> program a Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s
>>> what I call efficiency in terms of training.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific
>>> knowledge is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly
>>> a rocket ship, but still...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a
>>> field issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's not necessarily a good thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training
>>> versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining
>>> about that?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ill have to look into browser
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
>>> login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
>>> quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> at least its not java, ill give it that
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
>>> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>>>
>>> As

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Lewis Bergman]

I have never seen one but it sounds like a pressure relief/drain.

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:28 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off
> and i cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
>> If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can program
>> a Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s what I
>> call efficiency in terms of training.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific
>> knowledge is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly
>> a rocket ship, but still...
>>
>>
>>
>> PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a
>> field issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> That's not necessarily a good thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training
>> versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining
>> about that?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> ill have to look into browser
>>
>>
>>
>> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
>> login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
>> quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought
>>
>>
>>
>> at least its not java, ill give it that
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
>> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>>
>> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If
>> the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and
>> connect.
>>
>>
>>
>> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how
>> that is any different than anyone else.
>>
>> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save
>> button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Steve Jones]

what is the little black cap between the two ports on these? one came off
and i cant figure out what that is and whether to tape it up or what


On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can program
> a Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s what I
> call efficiency in terms of training.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific
> knowledge is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly
> a rocket ship, but still...
>
>
>
> PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a
> field issue.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> That's not necessarily a good thing.
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training
> versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining
> about that?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good
>
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> ill have to look into browser
>
>
>
> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
> login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
> quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought
>
>
>
> at least its not java, ill give it that
>
>
>
> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>
> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If
> the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and
> connect.
>
>
>
> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how
> that is any different than anyone else.
>
> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save
> button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
>
> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue
> no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these
> are going in a redundant path
>
>
>
> essids reverting to factory... awesome
>
>
>
> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going
> to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30
> minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones
> getting chucked through a window
>
>
>
> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking
> stupid is that.
>
>
>
> now I haven't checked the maps, b

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Rory Conaway]

If you can hang a B5 radio, you can hang a B11.  Hell, if you can program a 
Nanostation Loco, you can hang a B11 and make it work.  That’s what I call 
efficiency in terms of training.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific knowledge 
is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly a rocket ship, 
but still...

PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?

On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a field 
issue.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

That's not necessarily a good thing.

On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training versus the 
crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining about that?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window

On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good

On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Did  you ever use the original ePMP?

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

ill have to look into browser

by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login 
screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, 
unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

at least its not java, ill give it that

I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.


On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say it’s 
clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If the AP 
is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect.

Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that is 
any different than anyone else.

As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save button 
doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no 
getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are 
going in a redundant path

essids reverting to factory... awesome

I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to do 
a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute 
process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting 
chucked through a window

seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking stupid 
is that.

now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link 
going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. 
wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I 
should have researched more

the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for the 
epmp

reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I 
ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house 
and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.

I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas 
though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Mike Hammett]

Dragonwave's radio is the most advanced in the industry at the moment as well 
as being competitively priced among the higher tier. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 1:02:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 


Dragon what now? Isn't that the radio people used in the past :P 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > 
wrote: 





Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training versus the 
crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining about that? 

Rory 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM 


To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 





I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window 



On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote: 


BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2. 

Rory 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 


Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good 



On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 




Did you ever use the original ePMP? 






From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM 

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 





ill have to look into browser 



by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login 
screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, 
unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought 



at least its not java, ill give it that 



I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface. 






On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > 
wrote: 


Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things. I’m not sure how you say it’s 
clunky. It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s. 

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false. If the AP 
is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect. 

Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that is 
any different than anyone else. 

As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome. If you use IE, then the save button 
doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want. 

Rory 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 



very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor 

web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no 
getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are 
going in a redundant path 



essids reverting to factory... awesome 



I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to do 
a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute 
process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting 
chucked through a window 



seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking stupid 
is that. 



now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link 
going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. 
wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I 
should have researched more 



the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for the 
epmp 



reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I 
ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house 
and let them know whats going on before it comes back up. 



I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas 
though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on. 

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Josh Reynolds]

What I'm getting at is deploying a product without product specific
knowledge is not normally a good thing. I understand a radio isn't exactly
a rocket ship, but still...

PS - Can we have out daily use jetpacks yet?

On Aug 25, 2017 2:10 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a
> field issue.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> That's not necessarily a good thing.
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training
> versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining
> about that?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good
>
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> ill have to look into browser
>
>
>
> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
> login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
> quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought
>
>
>
> at least its not java, ill give it that
>
>
>
> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>
> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If
> the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and
> connect.
>
>
>
> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how
> that is any different than anyone else.
>
> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save
> button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
>
> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue
> no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these
> are going in a redundant path
>
>
>
> essids reverting to factory... awesome
>
>
>
> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going
> to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30
> minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones
> getting chucked through a window
>
>
>
> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking
> stupid is that.
>
>
>
> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz
> link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty
> suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking
> upconverts, I should have researched more
>
>
>
> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for
> the epmp
>
>
>
> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if
> I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys
> house and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.
>
>
>
> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of
> antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface
> on.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Rory Conaway]

It’s a huge thing in terms of training and availability if there is a field 
issue.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

That's not necessarily a good thing.

On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training versus the 
crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining about that?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window

On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good

On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Did  you ever use the original ePMP?

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

ill have to look into browser

by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login 
screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, 
unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

at least its not java, ill give it that

I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.


On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say it’s 
clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If the AP 
is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect.

Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that is 
any different than anyone else.

As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save button 
doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no 
getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are 
going in a redundant path

essids reverting to factory... awesome

I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to do 
a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute 
process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting 
chucked through a window

seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking stupid 
is that.

now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link 
going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. 
wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I 
should have researched more

the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for the 
epmp

reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I 
ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house 
and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.

I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas 
though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Josh Luthman]

Dragon what now?  Isn't that the radio people used in the past :P


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training
> versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining
> about that?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good
>
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> ill have to look into browser
>
>
>
> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
> login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
> quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought
>
>
>
> at least its not java, ill give it that
>
>
>
> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>
> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If
> the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and
> connect.
>
>
>
> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how
> that is any different than anyone else.
>
> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save
> button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
>
> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue
> no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these
> are going in a redundant path
>
>
>
> essids reverting to factory... awesome
>
>
>
> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going
> to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30
> minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones
> getting chucked through a window
>
>
>
> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking
> stupid is that.
>
>
>
> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz
> link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty
> suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking
> upconverts, I should have researched more
>
>
>
> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for
> the epmp
>
>
>
> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if
> I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys
> house and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.
>
>
>
> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of
> antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface
> on.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Steve Jones]

getting these on my desk with chrome removed some complaints


On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
wrote:

> That's not necessarily a good thing.
>
> On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training
>> versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining
>> about that?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> ill have to look into browser
>>
>>
>>
>> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
>> login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
>> quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought
>>
>>
>>
>> at least its not java, ill give it that
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
>> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>>
>> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If
>> the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and
>> connect.
>>
>>
>>
>> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how
>> that is any different than anyone else.
>>
>> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save
>> button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
>>
>> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any
>> issue no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad
>> these are going in a redundant path
>>
>>
>>
>> essids reverting to factory... awesome
>>
>>
>>
>> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going
>> to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30
>> minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones
>> getting chucked through a window
>>
>>
>>
>> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking
>> stupid is that.
>>
>>
>>
>> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz
>> link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty
>> suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking
>> upconverts, I should have researched more
>>
>>
>>
>> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect
>> for the epmp
>>
>>
>>
>> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure
>> if I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys
>> house and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of
>> antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface
>> on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Josh Reynolds]

That's not necessarily a good thing.

On Aug 25, 2017 10:04 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training
> versus the crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining
> about that?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good
>
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> ill have to look into browser
>
>
>
> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
> login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
> quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought
>
>
>
> at least its not java, ill give it that
>
>
>
> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>
> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If
> the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and
> connect.
>
>
>
> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how
> that is any different than anyone else.
>
> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save
> button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
>
> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue
> no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these
> are going in a redundant path
>
>
>
> essids reverting to factory... awesome
>
>
>
> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going
> to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30
> minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones
> getting chucked through a window
>
>
>
> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking
> stupid is that.
>
>
>
> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz
> link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty
> suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking
> upconverts, I should have researched more
>
>
>
> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for
> the epmp
>
>
>
> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if
> I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys
> house and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.
>
>
>
> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of
> antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface
> on.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Rory Conaway]

Seriously, every guy in my company can deploy a B11 with no training versus the 
crap we went through with Dragonwave and you are complaining about that?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window

On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good

On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Did  you ever use the original ePMP?

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

ill have to look into browser

by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login 
screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, 
unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

at least its not java, ill give it that

I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.


On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say it’s 
clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If the AP 
is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect.

Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that is 
any different than anyone else.

As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save button 
doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no 
getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are 
going in a redundant path

essids reverting to factory... awesome

I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to do 
a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute 
process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting 
chucked through a window

seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking stupid 
is that.

now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link 
going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. 
wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I 
should have researched more

the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for the 
epmp

reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I 
ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house 
and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.

I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas 
though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Steve Jones]

I need 2 if im chucking the first one out the window

On Aug 25, 2017 8:39 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good
>
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> ill have to look into browser
>
>
>
> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
> login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
> quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought
>
>
>
> at least its not java, ill give it that
>
>
>
> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>
> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If
> the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and
> connect.
>
>
>
> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how
> that is any different than anyone else.
>
> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save
> button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
>
> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue
> no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these
> are going in a redundant path
>
>
>
> essids reverting to factory... awesome
>
>
>
> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going
> to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30
> minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones
> getting chucked through a window
>
>
>
> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking
> stupid is that.
>
>
>
> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz
> link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty
> suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking
> upconverts, I should have researched more
>
>
>
> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for
> the epmp
>
>
>
> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if
> I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys
> house and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.
>
>
>
> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of
> antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface
> on.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Rory Conaway]

BTW, you also only need 1 radio for a spare, not 2.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good

On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Did  you ever use the original ePMP?

From: Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

ill have to look into browser

by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login 
screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, 
unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

at least its not java, ill give it that

I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.


On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say it’s 
clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If the AP 
is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect.

Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that is 
any different than anyone else.

As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save button 
doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

Rory


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no 
getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are 
going in a redundant path

essids reverting to factory... awesome

I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to do 
a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute 
process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting 
chucked through a window

seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking stupid 
is that.

now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link 
going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. 
wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I 
should have researched more

the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for the 
epmp

reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I 
ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house 
and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.

I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas 
though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Steve Jones]

Thats the gui im saying mimosa makes look good

On Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
> ill have to look into browser
>
> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
> login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
> quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought
>
> at least its not java, ill give it that
>
> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
>> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>>
>> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If
>> the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and
>> connect.
>>
>>
>>
>> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how
>> that is any different than anyone else.
>>
>> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save
>> button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>>
>>
>>
>> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
>>
>> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any
>> issue no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad
>> these are going in a redundant path
>>
>>
>>
>> essids reverting to factory... awesome
>>
>>
>>
>> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going
>> to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30
>> minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones
>> getting chucked through a window
>>
>>
>>
>> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking
>> stupid is that.
>>
>>
>>
>> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz
>> link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty
>> suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking
>> upconverts, I should have researched more
>>
>>
>>
>> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect
>> for the epmp
>>
>>
>>
>> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure
>> if I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys
>> house and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of
>> antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface
>> on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Vlad Sedov]

You mean the old Fisher Price edition, Chuck?

:D


Vlad


On 8/24/2017 8:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
ill have to look into browser
by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the 
login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the 
gears quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an 
afterthought

at least its not java, ill give it that
I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:


Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how
you say it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors
GUI’s.

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely
false.  If the AP is on the connection side, the client side will
always search and connect.

Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see
how that is any different than anyone else.

As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the
save button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

Rory


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11

very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living
room floor

web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has
any issue no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road
trip, glad these are going in a redundant path

essids reverting to factory... awesome

I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm
going to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and
this stupid 30 minute process of activating, loading firmwares,
all that, the first ones getting chucked through a window

seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how
freaking stupid is that.

now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no
11ghz link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s
is pretty suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that
"11ghz" fucking upconverts, I should have researched more

the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some
respect for the epmp

reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty
sure if I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive
to everybodys house and let them know whats going on before it
comes back up.

I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line
of antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a
saf interface on.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Chuck McCown]

Did  you ever use the original ePMP?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

ill have to look into browser

by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login 
screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, 
unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

at least its not java, ill give it that

I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.


On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

  Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say it’s 
clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s. 

  As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If the 
AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect. 



  Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that 
is any different than anyone else.

  As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save button 
doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

  Rory






  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11



  very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor

  web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no 
getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are 
going in a redundant path



  essids reverting to factory... awesome



  I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to 
do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute 
process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting 
chucked through a window



  seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking 
stupid is that.



  now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link 
going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. 
wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I 
should have researched more



  the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for 
the epmp



  reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I 
ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house 
and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.



  I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas 
though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Faisal Imtiaz]

>> What is the difference in us and us licensed? Can i change it now? 

I am not 100% sure, I did the same 'mistake' and was asked to redo. 

Process is simple.. request the unlock code again... 
once you receive it.. reset the radio and enter the new code. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 8:27:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> Everything is knee jerk with me, i hated saf the first time because of the 
> save
> config and write config.

> Ive been using edge, i should have tested browsers, maybe ot wont be abusmal 
> in
> others.

> What is the difference in us and us licensed? Can i change it now?

> On Aug 24, 2017 7:20 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote:

>> Each one of your 'rants' I would chalk them off to 'knee jerk' reaction on
>> dealing with something new.

>> One's experience with the GUI has more to do with the Browser one is using...
>> Lately we have seen issues Chrome and Mimosa GUI, Mozilla tends to be more
>> stable, typically I use Chrome as my primary, and Mozilla as my secondary go
>> to.

>> Reboot and re-connect times are nothing out of the ordinary, when compared to
>> SAF / Ceragon / Ubiquity etc etc...
>> Yes registration and initial firmware upload is what lot of people complain
>> about...I shurg !

>> Also, keep in mind when you register it, do change the country code to USA
>> Licensed instead of USA (when you are requesting the unlock code).

>> Latest Firmware has been very good, so far our B11 has been pretty much 'set 
>> it
>> and forget it' :)

>> Doing bench testing, keep in mind to turn down the power. and don't 
>> forget
>> to turn up the power when you are installing it.

>> Best of luck.

>> Regards.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Steve Jones" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 12:54:50 AM

>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>> ill have to look into browser

>>> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login
>>> screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality,
>>> unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

>>> at least its not java, ill give it that

>>> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.

>>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > 
>>> wrote:

>>>> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things. I’m not sure how you say 
>>>> it’s
>>>> clunky. It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.

>>>> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false. If the 
>>>> AP is
>>>> on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect.

>>>> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how 
>>>> that is
>>>> any different than anyone else.

>>>> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome. If you use IE, then the save 
>>>> button
>>>> doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

>>>> Rory

>>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>>>> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor

>>>> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue 
>>>> no
>>>> getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are
>>>> going in a redundant path

>>>> essids reverting to factory... awesome

>>>> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going 
>>>> to do a
>>>> replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute
>>>> process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting
>>>> chucked through a window

>>>> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking 
>&

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Steve Jones]

Everything is knee jerk with me, i hated saf the first time because of the
save config and write config.

Ive been using edge, i should have tested browsers, maybe ot wont be
abusmal in others.

What is the difference in us and us licensed? Can i change it now?


On Aug 24, 2017 7:20 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

Each one of your 'rants' I would chalk them off to 'knee jerk' reaction on
dealing with something new.

One's experience with the GUI has more to do with the Browser one
is  using... Lately we have seen issues Chrome and Mimosa GUI, Mozilla
tends to be more stable, typically I use Chrome as my primary, and Mozilla
as my secondary go to.

Reboot and re-connect times are nothing out of the ordinary, when compared
to SAF / Ceragon / Ubiquity etc etc...
Yes registration and initial firmware upload is what lot of people complain
about...I shurg !

Also, keep in mind when you register it, do change the country code to USA
Licensed instead of USA (when you are requesting the unlock code).

Latest Firmware has been very good, so far our B11 has been pretty much
'set it and forget it'   :)

Doing bench testing, keep in mind to turn down the power. and don't
forget to turn up the power when you are installing it.

Best of luck.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
supp...@snappytelecom.net

--

*From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, August 24, 2017 12:54:50 AM

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

ill have to look into browser

by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

at least its not java, ill give it that

I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.


On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>
> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If
> the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and
> connect.
>
>
>
> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how
> that is any different than anyone else.
>
> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save
> button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.
>
> Rory
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
>
> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue
> no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these
> are going in a redundant path
>
>
>
> essids reverting to factory... awesome
>
>
>
> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going
> to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30
> minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones
> getting chucked through a window
>
>
>
> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking
> stupid is that.
>
>
>
> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz
> link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty
> suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking
> upconverts, I should have researched more
>
>
>
> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for
> the epmp
>
>
>
> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if
> I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys
> house and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.
>
>
>
> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of
> antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface
> on.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Each one of your 'rants' I would chalk them off to 'knee jerk' reaction on 
dealing with something new. 

One's experience with the GUI has more to do with the Browser one is using... 
Lately we have seen issues Chrome and Mimosa GUI, Mozilla tends to be more 
stable, typically I use Chrome as my primary, and Mozilla as my secondary go 
to. 

Reboot and re-connect times are nothing out of the ordinary, when compared to 
SAF / Ceragon / Ubiquity etc etc... 
Yes registration and initial firmware upload is what lot of people complain 
about...I shurg ! 

Also, keep in mind when you register it, do change the country code to USA 
Licensed instead of USA (when you are requesting the unlock code). 

Latest Firmware has been very good, so far our B11 has been pretty much 'set it 
and forget it' :) 

Doing bench testing, keep in mind to turn down the power. and don't forget 
to turn up the power when you are installing it. 

Best of luck. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 12:54:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

> ill have to look into browser

> by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login
> screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality,
> unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

> at least its not java, ill give it that

> I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.

> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > 
> wrote:

>> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things. I’m not sure how you say it’s
>> clunky. It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.

>> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false. If the 
>> AP is
>> on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect.

>> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that 
>> is
>> any different than anyone else.

>> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome. If you use IE, then the save button
>> doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

>> Rory

>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

>> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor

>> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no
>> getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are
>> going in a redundant path

>> essids reverting to factory... awesome

>> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to 
>> do a
>> replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute
>> process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting
>> chucked through a window

>> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking 
>> stupid
>> is that.

>> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link
>> going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect.
>> wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I
>> should have researched more

>> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for 
>> the
>> epmp

>> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I
>> ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house
>> and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.

>> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas
>> though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Rory Conaway]

Are you using Chrome?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 9:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

ill have to look into browser

by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login 
screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, 
unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

at least its not java, ill give it that

I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.


On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say it’s 
clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If the AP 
is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect.

Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that is 
any different than anyone else.

As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save button 
doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

Rory


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no 
getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are 
going in a redundant path

essids reverting to factory... awesome

I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to do 
a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute 
process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting 
chucked through a window

seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking stupid 
is that.

now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link 
going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. 
wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I 
should have researched more

the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for the 
epmp

reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I 
ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house 
and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.

I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas 
though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Steve Jones]

ill have to look into browser

by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the
login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears
quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought

at least its not java, ill give it that

I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.


On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say
> it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.
>
> As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If
> the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and
> connect.
>
>
>
> Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how
> that is any different than anyone else.
>
> As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save
> button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.
>
> Rory
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11
>
>
>
> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
>
> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue
> no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these
> are going in a redundant path
>
>
>
> essids reverting to factory... awesome
>
>
>
> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going
> to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30
> minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones
> getting chucked through a window
>
>
>
> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking
> stupid is that.
>
>
>
> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz
> link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty
> suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking
> upconverts, I should have researched more
>
>
>
> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for
> the epmp
>
>
>
> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if
> I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys
> house and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.
>
>
>
> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of
> antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface
> on.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Rory Conaway]

I’ve got multiple B11 links up, no issues, one carrying 300-400Mbps with over 
1000 devices or more every single night for 50 miles and it’s been up for a 
year.  Could another product do that?  Of course, but a year ago, this was the 
most cost-effective product out there and it’s worked flawlessly.  We are now 
generating 5 times the revenue through this link than we did when we put it in 
and it’s handling that capacity without a hiccup.

Rory


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 9:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

under the numbers.
I'm giving up on this nonsensical crap for the night
pretty sure we really got what we paid for with this stuff

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Mathew Howard 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You should be able to type in the SSID... at least I can on whatever firmware 
version we're running.
noise floor in the low 80s doesn't sound good... is noise showing up on the 
spectrum analyzer, or is it just saying that under the numbers?

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Steve Jones 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no 
getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are 
going in a redundant path

essids reverting to factory... awesome

I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to do 
a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute 
process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting 
chucked through a window

seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking stupid 
is that.

now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link 
going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. 
wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I 
should have researched more

the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for the 
epmp

reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I 
ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house 
and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.

I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas 
though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Rory Conaway]

Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how you say it’s 
clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s.

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false.  If the AP 
is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect.

Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see how that is 
any different than anyone else.

As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the save button 
doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

Rory



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no 
getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are 
going in a redundant path

essids reverting to factory... awesome

I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to do 
a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute 
process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting 
chucked through a window

seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking stupid 
is that.

now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link 
going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. 
wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I 
should have researched more

the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for the 
epmp

reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I 
ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house 
and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.

I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas 
though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[ste]

Used to licensed gear for licensed frequence this cheap stuff is a stepdown for 
sure. You get what you pay for. With licensed frequency I would pay a bit more 
and use SAF. The experience starts with the mount. 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Steve Jones
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. August 2017 05:55
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

 

very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor

web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no 
getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are 
going in a redundant path

 

essids reverting to factory... awesome

 

I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going to do 
a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30 minute 
process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones getting 
chucked through a window

 

seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking stupid 
is that.

 

now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz link 
going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty suspect. 
wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking upconverts, I 
should have researched more

 

the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for the 
epmp

 

reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if I 
ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys house 
and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.

 

I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of antennas 
though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface on.

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Steve Jones]

under the numbers.
I'm giving up on this nonsensical crap for the night
pretty sure we really got what we paid for with this stuff

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> You should be able to type in the SSID... at least I can on whatever
> firmware version we're running.
>
> noise floor in the low 80s doesn't sound good... is noise showing up on
> the spectrum analyzer, or is it just saying that under the numbers?
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
>> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any
>> issue no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad
>> these are going in a redundant path
>>
>> essids reverting to factory... awesome
>>
>> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going
>> to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30
>> minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones
>> getting chucked through a window
>>
>> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking
>> stupid is that.
>>
>> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz
>> link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty
>> suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking
>> upconverts, I should have researched more
>>
>> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect
>> for the epmp
>>
>> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure
>> if I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys
>> house and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.
>>
>> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of
>> antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface
>> on.
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Mathew Howard]

You should be able to type in the SSID... at least I can on whatever
firmware version we're running.

noise floor in the low 80s doesn't sound good... is noise showing up on the
spectrum analyzer, or is it just saying that under the numbers?

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor
> web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue
> no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these
> are going in a redundant path
>
> essids reverting to factory... awesome
>
> I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm going
> to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and this stupid 30
> minute process of activating, loading firmwares, all that, the first ones
> getting chucked through a window
>
> seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how freaking
> stupid is that.
>
> now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no 11ghz
> link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s is pretty
> suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that "11ghz" fucking
> upconverts, I should have researched more
>
> the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some respect for
> the epmp
>
> reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty sure if
> I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive to everybodys
> house and let them know whats going on before it comes back up.
>
> I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line of
> antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a saf interface
> on.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Jaime Solorza]

But it does happen

On Aug 30, 2016 5:16 PM, "Daniel White" <afmu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well if it is the dish… it would be the feedhorn.
>
>
>
> Bad feedhorns are so rare with Radiowaves, RFS, Commscope I didn’t even
> think about it.
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
>
> ConVergence Technologies
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:32 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue
>
>
>
> i guess that's a possibility.  the only other dish we have available is a
> 3' that is for the other link we are installing, guess we could try that
> just to see what happens.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Did you swap dishes?  I have had bad dishes right out of the box...
> Especially the first 1 ft.  5GHz dishes from Radio waves way back when God
> was a child.
>
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2016 3:36 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
> i guess you could ask what would make one side of a link 10db weaker than
> the other.
>
>
>
> mimosa tech support seems to be stumped as well.  not sure where to go
> from here.  The B5s we've used are awesome...the B11 so far seems a bit
> half baked :-/
>
>
>
> -sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I will attending a Mimosa certification class tomorrow all day... Any
> questions I should ask?
>
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2016 11:21 AM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
> Hi Gang,
>
>
>
> I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too, so
> i thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.
>
>
>
> We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a
> dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will be
> replacing).  The PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11 interface states
> we should have a -40.9.  On the near side with is also the AP side we have
> a -42 (as expected) however on the far side (station side) we have a
> -53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've tried swapping
> radios on both sides, i've downgraded to 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've
> moved the dishes 5' vertically on both sides with no change.  the station
> side is always about 10-12db worse.  We are not on a sidelobe since the
> other radio is at expected signal level.
>
>
>
> Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another
> customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and they
> have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since I first
> contacted mimosa and they don't have any answer other than "we are working
> on it".
>
>
>
> I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this link
> live because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else have this
> issue or have any other ideas of what to try??
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[George Skorup]

How is the link coordinated? Split like FDD or both frequencies at both 
ends? You could try flipping frequencies around and see if the low RSL 
follows.


I have a couple regular FDD links with the symptoms you describe. One I 
know is a Tx or Rx problem at one end or the other since the Rx at one 
side dropped 6dB in 10 minutes out of the clear blue one day and hasn't 
changed since. Not worth replacing until one end or the other dies. Then 
another link was perfect at -42dBm both directions until we had to 
re-mount one end and moved down 1 to 2 feet. Looks like we ended up 
getting just on the tip of a knife-edge diffraction point somewhere 
along the path with that small change. Now in the morning, one side will 
fade about 5dB, they'll equalize around noon and then the other end will 
drop 5dB in the afternoon.


Moral of the story is to not rule out a path issue. But a defective 
radio is certainly possible.


On 8/30/2016 4:36 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
i guess you could ask what would make one side of a link 10db weaker 
than the other.


mimosa tech support seems to be stumped as well.  not sure where to go 
from here.  The B5s we've used are awesome...the B11 so far seems a 
bit half baked :-/


-sean


On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:


I will attending a Mimosa certification class tomorrow all day...
Any questions I should ask?


On Aug 30, 2016 11:21 AM, "Sean Heskett" > wrote:

Hi Gang,

I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be
stumped too, so i thought I'd check with y'all to see if
you've seen the same issue.

We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently
have a dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place
that the B11 will be replacing).  The PCN states we should
have a -42.5 the B11 interface states we should have a -40.9. 
On the near side with is also the AP side we have a -42 (as

expected) however on the far side (station side) we have a
-53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've
tried swapping radios on both sides, i've downgraded to 1.3.1
and back to 1.4.1 and we've moved the dishes 5' vertically on
both sides with no change.  the station side is always about
10-12db worse.  We are not on a sidelobe since the other radio
is at expected signal level.

Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have
another customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them
VPN access and they have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's
been almost 2 weeks since I first contacted mimosa and they
don't have any answer other than "we are working on it".

I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get
this link live because it's going to start snowing here soon. 
Anyone else have this issue or have any other ideas of what to

try??

-Sean

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Eric Kuhnke]

I have really not been impressed with Radiowaves' quality control in the
past. We bought a whole series of 80 GHz 60 cm high performance dishes
(cylindrical waveguide) which came with lots of little metal bits rolling
around inside them. They'd drilled out the holes for the side shroud radome
attachment as the last step in the manufacturing process, leaving all the
drill shavings inside the dish. Many metal shavings trapped inside the
side-wall foam.

I discovered this by picking one up to mount a radio on it. When I rotated
the dish 90 degrees I heard a ticking sound of small metal scrapings
bouncing around on the interior surface of the dish.

There was nothing wrong with the feed/waveguide assembly, however.

Fun times.


On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well if it is the dish… it would be the feedhorn.
>
>
>
> Bad feedhorns are so rare with Radiowaves, RFS, Commscope I didn’t even
> think about it.
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
>
> ConVergence Technologies
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:32 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue
>
>
>
> i guess that's a possibility.  the only other dish we have available is a
> 3' that is for the other link we are installing, guess we could try that
> just to see what happens.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Did you swap dishes?  I have had bad dishes right out of the box...
> Especially the first 1 ft.  5GHz dishes from Radio waves way back when God
> was a child.
>
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2016 3:36 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
> i guess you could ask what would make one side of a link 10db weaker than
> the other.
>
>
>
> mimosa tech support seems to be stumped as well.  not sure where to go
> from here.  The B5s we've used are awesome...the B11 so far seems a bit
> half baked :-/
>
>
>
> -sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I will attending a Mimosa certification class tomorrow all day... Any
> questions I should ask?
>
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2016 11:21 AM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
> Hi Gang,
>
>
>
> I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too, so
> i thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.
>
>
>
> We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a
> dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will be
> replacing).  The PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11 interface states
> we should have a -40.9.  On the near side with is also the AP side we have
> a -42 (as expected) however on the far side (station side) we have a
> -53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've tried swapping
> radios on both sides, i've downgraded to 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've
> moved the dishes 5' vertically on both sides with no change.  the station
> side is always about 10-12db worse.  We are not on a sidelobe since the
> other radio is at expected signal level.
>
>
>
> Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another
> customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and they
> have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since I first
> contacted mimosa and they don't have any answer other than "we are working
> on it".
>
>
>
> I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this link
> live because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else have this
> issue or have any other ideas of what to try??
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Daniel White]

Well if it is the dish… it would be the feedhorn.



Bad feedhorns are so rare with Radiowaves, RFS, Commscope I didn’t even think 
about it.



Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

 <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue



i guess that's a possibility.  the only other dish we have available is a 3' 
that is for the other link we are installing, guess we could try that just to 
see what happens.



On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Did you swap dishes?  I have had bad dishes right out of the box... Especially 
the first 1 ft.  5GHz dishes from Radio waves way back when God was a child.



On Aug 30, 2016 3:36 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us 
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

i guess you could ask what would make one side of a link 10db weaker than the 
other.



mimosa tech support seems to be stumped as well.  not sure where to go from 
here.  The B5s we've used are awesome...the B11 so far seems a bit half baked 
:-/



-sean





On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I will attending a Mimosa certification class tomorrow all day... Any questions 
I should ask?



On Aug 30, 2016 11:21 AM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us 
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

Hi Gang,



I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too, so i 
thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.



We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a dragonwave 
horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will be replacing).  The 
PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11 interface states we should have a 
-40.9.  On the near side with is also the AP side we have a -42 (as expected) 
however on the far side (station side) we have a -53.2.  Both sides are using 
the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've tried swapping radios on both sides, i've 
downgraded to 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've moved the dishes 5' vertically 
on both sides with no change.  the station side is always about 10-12db worse.  
We are not on a sidelobe since the other radio is at expected signal level.



Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another customer 
with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and they have run some 
diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since I first contacted mimosa 
and they don't have any answer other than "we are working on it".



I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this link live 
because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else have this issue or 
have any other ideas of what to try??



-Sean









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Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Sean Heskett]

i guess that's a possibility.  the only other dish we have available is a
3' that is for the other link we are installing, guess we could try that
just to see what happens.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Did you swap dishes?  I have had bad dishes right out of the box...
> Especially the first 1 ft.  5GHz dishes from Radio waves way back when God
> was a child.
>
> On Aug 30, 2016 3:36 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:
>
>> i guess you could ask what would make one side of a link 10db weaker than
>> the other.
>>
>> mimosa tech support seems to be stumped as well.  not sure where to go
>> from here.  The B5s we've used are awesome...the B11 so far seems a bit
>> half baked :-/
>>
>> -sean
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I will attending a Mimosa certification class tomorrow all day... Any
>>> questions I should ask?
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2016 11:21 AM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Gang,

 I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too,
 so i thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.

 We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a
 dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will be
 replacing).  The PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11 interface states
 we should have a -40.9.  On the near side with is also the AP side we have
 a -42 (as expected) however on the far side (station side) we have a
 -53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've tried swapping
 radios on both sides, i've downgraded to 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've
 moved the dishes 5' vertically on both sides with no change.  the station
 side is always about 10-12db worse.  We are not on a sidelobe since the
 other radio is at expected signal level.

 Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another
 customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and they
 have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since I first
 contacted mimosa and they don't have any answer other than "we are working
 on it".

 I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this
 link live because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else have
 this issue or have any other ideas of what to try??

 -Sean


>>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Jaime Solorza]

Did you swap dishes?  I have had bad dishes right out of the box...
Especially the first 1 ft.  5GHz dishes from Radio waves way back when God
was a child.

On Aug 30, 2016 3:36 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:

> i guess you could ask what would make one side of a link 10db weaker than
> the other.
>
> mimosa tech support seems to be stumped as well.  not sure where to go
> from here.  The B5s we've used are awesome...the B11 so far seems a bit
> half baked :-/
>
> -sean
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jaime Solorza  > wrote:
>
>> I will attending a Mimosa certification class tomorrow all day... Any
>> questions I should ask?
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2016 11:21 AM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gang,
>>>
>>> I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too,
>>> so i thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.
>>>
>>> We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a
>>> dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will be
>>> replacing).  The PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11 interface states
>>> we should have a -40.9.  On the near side with is also the AP side we have
>>> a -42 (as expected) however on the far side (station side) we have a
>>> -53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've tried swapping
>>> radios on both sides, i've downgraded to 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've
>>> moved the dishes 5' vertically on both sides with no change.  the station
>>> side is always about 10-12db worse.  We are not on a sidelobe since the
>>> other radio is at expected signal level.
>>>
>>> Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another
>>> customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and they
>>> have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since I first
>>> contacted mimosa and they don't have any answer other than "we are working
>>> on it".
>>>
>>> I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this link
>>> live because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else have this
>>> issue or have any other ideas of what to try??
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Sean Heskett]

we had another set of radios for a second link we are putting in and they
did the same thing.  LOS is for sure clear on both sides, it's from a roof
top to a mountain top water tank, we even moved both antennas 5' higher
just to be sure there wasn't anything on the roof top causing a reflection
(the water tank side is the weaker side)

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I got the feeling he had done that.
>
> Sean if you have not switched the radios from one site to the other - that
> should be your next step.
>
> Daniel White
> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
> ConVergence Technologies
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Morris
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 1:01 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue
> >
> > What happens if you make the station side the AP, and the AP side the
> > station (Switch their roles)?
> >
> > Sam
> >
> > On 8/30/2016 12:21 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
> > > Hi Gang,
> > >
> > > I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too,
> > > so i thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.
> > >
> > > We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a
> > > dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will
> > > be replacing).  The PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11
> > > interface states we should have a -40.9.  On the near side with is
> > > also the AP side we have a -42 (as expected) however on the far side
> > > (station side) we have a -53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2'
> > > dishes.  We've tried swapping radios on both sides, i've downgraded to
> > > 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've moved the dishes 5' vertically on
> > > both sides with no change.  the station side is always about 10-12db
> > > worse.  We are not on a sidelobe since the other radio is at expected
> signal
> > level.
> > >
> > > Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another
> > > customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and
> > > they have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since
> > > I first contacted mimosa and they don't have any answer other than "we
> > > are working on it".
> > >
> > > I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this
> > > link live because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else
> > > have this issue or have any other ideas of what to try??
> > >
> > > -Sean
> > >
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Sean Heskett]

i guess you could ask what would make one side of a link 10db weaker than
the other.

mimosa tech support seems to be stumped as well.  not sure where to go from
here.  The B5s we've used are awesome...the B11 so far seems a bit half
baked :-/

-sean


On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I will attending a Mimosa certification class tomorrow all day... Any
> questions I should ask?
>
> On Aug 30, 2016 11:21 AM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Gang,
>>
>> I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too, so
>> i thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.
>>
>> We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a
>> dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will be
>> replacing).  The PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11 interface states
>> we should have a -40.9.  On the near side with is also the AP side we have
>> a -42 (as expected) however on the far side (station side) we have a
>> -53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've tried swapping
>> radios on both sides, i've downgraded to 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've
>> moved the dishes 5' vertically on both sides with no change.  the station
>> side is always about 10-12db worse.  We are not on a sidelobe since the
>> other radio is at expected signal level.
>>
>> Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another
>> customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and they
>> have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since I first
>> contacted mimosa and they don't have any answer other than "we are working
>> on it".
>>
>> I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this link
>> live because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else have this
>> issue or have any other ideas of what to try??
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Daniel White]

I got the feeling he had done that.

Sean if you have not switched the radios from one site to the other - that 
should be your next step.

Daniel White
Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
ConVergence Technologies
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
dwh...@converge-tech.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Morris
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 1:01 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue
>
> What happens if you make the station side the AP, and the AP side the
> station (Switch their roles)?
>
> Sam
>
> On 8/30/2016 12:21 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too,
> > so i thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.
> >
> > We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a
> > dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will
> > be replacing).  The PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11
> > interface states we should have a -40.9.  On the near side with is
> > also the AP side we have a -42 (as expected) however on the far side
> > (station side) we have a -53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2'
> > dishes.  We've tried swapping radios on both sides, i've downgraded to
> > 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've moved the dishes 5' vertically on
> > both sides with no change.  the station side is always about 10-12db
> > worse.  We are not on a sidelobe since the other radio is at expected signal
> level.
> >
> > Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another
> > customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and
> > they have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since
> > I first contacted mimosa and they don't have any answer other than "we
> > are working on it".
> >
> > I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this
> > link live because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else
> > have this issue or have any other ideas of what to try??
> >
> > -Sean
> >


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Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Daniel White]

If the issue stays at the same site, and does not follow the radio it is an RF 
path issue… or possibly a power issue causing problems.



Remember you changed frequency bands as well… clear LOS at 11GHz and clear LOS 
at 18GHz are not the same.



My guess would be a Fresnel zone obstruction near the side having issues.



Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

 <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue



Actually take that back sounds like a calibration issue on the radio.



On Aug 30, 2016 12:30 PM, "Erich Kaiser" <er...@northcentraltower.com 
<mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com> > wrote:

Waveguide issue on dish? Wrong size ?



On Aug 30, 2016 12:21 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us 
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

Hi Gang,



I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too, so i 
thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.



We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a dragonwave 
horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will be replacing).  The 
PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11 interface states we should have a 
-40.9.  On the near side with is also the AP side we have a -42 (as expected) 
however on the far side (station side) we have a -53.2.  Both sides are using 
the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've tried swapping radios on both sides, i've 
downgraded to 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've moved the dishes 5' vertically 
on both sides with no change.  the station side is always about 10-12db worse.  
We are not on a sidelobe since the other radio is at expected signal level.



Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another customer 
with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and they have run some 
diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since I first contacted mimosa 
and they don't have any answer other than "we are working on it".



I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this link live 
because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else have this issue or 
have any other ideas of what to try??



-Sean





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Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Jaime Solorza]

I will attending a Mimosa certification class tomorrow all day... Any
questions I should ask?

On Aug 30, 2016 11:21 AM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:

> Hi Gang,
>
> I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too, so
> i thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.
>
> We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a
> dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will be
> replacing).  The PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11 interface states
> we should have a -40.9.  On the near side with is also the AP side we have
> a -42 (as expected) however on the far side (station side) we have a
> -53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've tried swapping
> radios on both sides, i've downgraded to 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've
> moved the dishes 5' vertically on both sides with no change.  the station
> side is always about 10-12db worse.  We are not on a sidelobe since the
> other radio is at expected signal level.
>
> Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another
> customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and they
> have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since I first
> contacted mimosa and they don't have any answer other than "we are working
> on it".
>
> I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this link
> live because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else have this
> issue or have any other ideas of what to try??
>
> -Sean
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Sam Morris]

What happens if you make the station side the AP, and the AP side the 
station (Switch their roles)?


Sam

On 8/30/2016 12:21 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

Hi Gang,

I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too,
so i thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.

We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a
dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will be
replacing).  The PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11 interface
states we should have a -40.9.  On the near side with is also the AP
side we have a -42 (as expected) however on the far side (station side)
we have a -53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've
tried swapping radios on both sides, i've downgraded to 1.3.1 and back
to 1.4.1 and we've moved the dishes 5' vertically on both sides with no
change.  the station side is always about 10-12db worse.  We are not on
a sidelobe since the other radio is at expected signal level.

Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another
customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and they
have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since I
first contacted mimosa and they don't have any answer other than "we are
working on it".

I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this link
live because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else have
this issue or have any other ideas of what to try??

-Sean

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Erich Kaiser]

Actually take that back sounds like a calibration issue on the radio.

On Aug 30, 2016 12:30 PM, "Erich Kaiser" 
wrote:

> Waveguide issue on dish? Wrong size ?
>
> On Aug 30, 2016 12:21 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Gang,
>>
>> I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too, so
>> i thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.
>>
>> We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a
>> dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will be
>> replacing).  The PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11 interface states
>> we should have a -40.9.  On the near side with is also the AP side we have
>> a -42 (as expected) however on the far side (station side) we have a
>> -53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've tried swapping
>> radios on both sides, i've downgraded to 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've
>> moved the dishes 5' vertically on both sides with no change.  the station
>> side is always about 10-12db worse.  We are not on a sidelobe since the
>> other radio is at expected signal level.
>>
>> Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another
>> customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and they
>> have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since I first
>> contacted mimosa and they don't have any answer other than "we are working
>> on it".
>>
>> I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this link
>> live because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else have this
>> issue or have any other ideas of what to try??
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Sean Heskett]

radios are directly connected to the Jirous 2' dishes with the hardware
supplied by mimosa.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Erich Kaiser 
wrote:

> Waveguide issue on dish? Wrong size ?
>
> On Aug 30, 2016 12:21 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Gang,
>>
>> I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too, so
>> i thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.
>>
>> We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a
>> dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will be
>> replacing).  The PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11 interface states
>> we should have a -40.9.  On the near side with is also the AP side we have
>> a -42 (as expected) however on the far side (station side) we have a
>> -53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've tried swapping
>> radios on both sides, i've downgraded to 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've
>> moved the dishes 5' vertically on both sides with no change.  the station
>> side is always about 10-12db worse.  We are not on a sidelobe since the
>> other radio is at expected signal level.
>>
>> Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another
>> customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and they
>> have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since I first
>> contacted mimosa and they don't have any answer other than "we are working
>> on it".
>>
>> I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this link
>> live because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else have this
>> issue or have any other ideas of what to try??
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 issue

[Erich Kaiser]

Waveguide issue on dish? Wrong size ?

On Aug 30, 2016 12:21 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:

> Hi Gang,
>
> I've already contacted mimosa support and they seem to be stumped too, so
> i thought I'd check with y'all to see if you've seen the same issue.
>
> We have a B11 link that is 6 miles clear LOS (we currently have a
> dragonwave horizon compact plus 18Ghz link in place that the B11 will be
> replacing).  The PCN states we should have a -42.5 the B11 interface states
> we should have a -40.9.  On the near side with is also the AP side we have
> a -42 (as expected) however on the far side (station side) we have a
> -53.2.  Both sides are using the Jirous 2' dishes.  We've tried swapping
> radios on both sides, i've downgraded to 1.3.1 and back to 1.4.1 and we've
> moved the dishes 5' vertically on both sides with no change.  the station
> side is always about 10-12db worse.  We are not on a sidelobe since the
> other radio is at expected signal level.
>
> Mimosa has stated they are "looking into it" and they have another
> customer with a similar problem.  I've provided them VPN access and they
> have run some diagnostic scripts.  It's been almost 2 weeks since I first
> contacted mimosa and they don't have any answer other than "we are working
> on it".
>
> I'm ready to switch vendors to another product. We have to get this link
> live because it's going to start snowing here soon.  Anyone else have this
> issue or have any other ideas of what to try??
>
> -Sean
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 Tx power at varying modulations

[Jaime Fink]

Eric, I think you’re more looking for SNR required for each modulation coding 
rate, which care listed here:

http://backhaul.help.mimosa.co/backhaul-faq-snr-mcs

Cheers,

Jaime Fink • Mimosa • CPO & Co-Founder


On July 15, 2016 at 10:56:20 AM, Eric Kuhnke 
(eric.kuh...@gmail.com) wrote:

Trying to manually do a link budget/path loss/rain fade calculation for a 
possible long B11 link...

Does Mimosa have a table of Tx power vs. modulation level published somewhere? 
The datasheet just says +27 Tx power, which I am guessing is its Tx power at 
QPSK modulation or something.

I am doubtful it's +27 at 256QAM with a low-overhead-percentage code rate.

https://www.mimosa.co/uploads/docs/Mimosa-B11-Datasheet.pdf

Is it +17, +18 or +19 Tx at 256QAM?

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Rory Conaway]

Data rates up to 22Mbps?  That’s pretty amazing.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 5:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Wait until they discover troposcatter and modern troposcatter modems (the US 
military uses them, and a few other NATO countries). You need dual diversity 
dishes on each end and they have to be immense. There's lots of old abandoned 
troposcatter stuff in northern Alaska and the Yukon, Nunavut which provided 
remote-site radar data links to the SAGE network.
google image search alaska tropo scatter:

https://www.google.com/search?q=alaska+tropo+scatter=100=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwjFq-7KrOTKAhUP6WMKHcSXDTgQ_AUIBygB=1067=730


http://www.comtechsystems.com/products-systems/troposcatter-hardware/

http://www.comtechsystems.com/product/cs67200i-modem/

you thought some licensed band 6 GHz stuff had a high EIRP with 8' dishes...  
Imagine putting a 1200W amplifier (which is about a 4000W electrical load, a 
lot is lost to heat) into the feed of a 25 foot dish feed.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Ken Hohhof 
<af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF 
frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio antenna 
on a tower near the CME in Aurora.


From: Mike Hammett<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

*nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6 GHz, 
fiber, diverse fiber, etc.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP



<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>

From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles but 
if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why they 
aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles long. 
I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things out...

You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP




From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

High frequency trading :-(
On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC.

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs!68218003!-717285941

bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


On 2/5/2016 12:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

Whose are those long links shooting east-west across the lake?
On Feb 4, 2016 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
I don't have many places where I can even get a half of that.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP




From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:54:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

160 MHz?  Must be nice.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2016 9:52 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
5 miles
2x80
3'
2ms
980Mbps



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

> We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
> since it went in a couple months ago.

What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?


>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
> To: af <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
> suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
> (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
> Waiting for six full links
>
>
>
> I got a call and was told they have p

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Erich Kaiser]

Yes that is the one.  Now the tower is owned by ATC, used to be owned by
Bob Huhn and his brother.  I think they got like $700k for the tower from
ATC.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> I think that's what this is. Doug described a link that does propagate
> like that and he's on this tower, so I assume this is it.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --------------
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:09:19 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF
> frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio
> antenna on a tower near the CME in Aurora.
>
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> *nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6
> GHz, fiber, diverse fiber, etc.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
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> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles
> but if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why
> they aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles
> long. I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things
> out...
>
> You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> High frequency trading :-(
>
> On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC.
>
>
> <http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX19

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Rory Conaway]

No, some type of commercial Ham Equipment for transmitting data.  However, it 
also did voice and we moved that bad boy up to 27MHz one night for fun.   The 
Yagi was interesting in that even with it’s size, the gain wasn’t that much but 
the SWR was essentially flat for 20 or 30Mhz.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:12 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11


SSB rig?
On Feb 6, 2016 10:22 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
The Yagi was the size of a city block and I think they had a 2Kw or 3Kw amp on 
it.  I do know when we changed it to 27MHz to screw with my friends on CB 
radio, we pegged a lot of S-Meters.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

I think that's what this is. Doug described a link that does propagate like 
that and he's on this tower, so I assume this is it.


-
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From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:09:19 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF 
frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio antenna 
on a tower near the CME in Aurora.


From: Mike Hammett<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

*nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6 GHz, 
fiber, diverse fiber, etc.


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________
From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles but 
if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why they 
aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles long. 
I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things out...

You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Eric Kuhnke]

They don't need a whole lot of bandwidth, either, they optimize all their
software for a tiny data payload...  If you only care about latency you can
operate in a 5 MHz wide channel and enjoy the much higher RSL threshold on
each Rx end of the link.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles
> long. I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things
> out...
>
> You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------------------
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> High frequency trading :-(
> On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC.
>>
>>
>> <http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs%2168218003%21-717285941>
>> http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs!68218003!-717285941
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 2/5/2016 12:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>
>> Whose are those long links shooting east-west across the lake?
>> On Feb 4, 2016 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have many places where I can even get a half of that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:54:54 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>>
>>> 160 MHz?  Must be nice.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Feb 4, 2016 9:52 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 5 miles
>>>> 2x80
>>>> 3'
>>>> 2ms
>>>> 980Mbps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>>>
>>>> > We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
>>>> > since it went in a couple months ago.
>>>>
>>>> What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
>>>> > To: af <af@afmug.com>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
>>>> > suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
>>>> > (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Waiting for six full links
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again.  EOM?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Tyson Burris, President
>>>> > Internet Communications Inc.
>>>> > 739 Commerce Dr.
>>>> > Franklin, IN 46131
>>>> >
>>>> > 317-738-0320 Daytime #
>>>> > 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
>>>> > Online: www.surfici.net
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard < <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Jaime Solorza]

My brother who is an engineer for Raytheon always tells me to be careful on
military sites...told him I don't work actual sites. but always stays
in back of mind.
On Feb 6, 2016 5:16 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I would not want to stand near a feedhorn connected to a 1200W signal
> source.
> Toasty...
> I asked my eye doctor about cataracts caused by microwave exposure.  He
> did some research and came up with nothing but I swear I read many WWII
> radar techs got cataracts.
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2016 5:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> Wait until they discover troposcatter and modern troposcatter modems (the
> US military uses them, and a few other NATO countries). You need dual
> diversity dishes on each end and they have to be immense. There's lots of
> old abandoned troposcatter stuff in northern Alaska and the Yukon, Nunavut
> which provided remote-site radar data links to the SAGE network.
>
> google image search alaska tropo scatter:
>
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=alaska+tropo+scatter=100=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwjFq-7KrOTKAhUP6WMKHcSXDTgQ_AUIBygB=1067=730
>
>
> http://www.comtechsystems.com/products-systems/troposcatter-hardware/
>
> http://www.comtechsystems.com/product/cs67200i-modem/
>
>
> you thought some licensed band 6 GHz stuff had a high EIRP with 8'
> dishes...  Imagine putting a 1200W amplifier (which is about a 4000W
> electrical load, a lot is lost to heat) into the feed of a 25 foot dish
> feed.
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF
>> frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio
>> antenna on a tower near the CME in Aurora.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>
>> *nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6
>> GHz, fiber, diverse fiber, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>
>> I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles
>> but if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why
>> they aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>
>>
>>
>> Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles
>> long. I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things
>> out...
>>
>> You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https:/

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Jaime Solorza]

How was daytime performance?   Guy down the block has 14Mhz rig along with
typical Ham talk too much bands
On Feb 6, 2016 1:14 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> No, some type of commercial Ham Equipment for transmitting data.  However,
> it also did voice and we moved that bad boy up to 27MHz one night for
> fun.   The Yagi was interesting in that even with it’s size, the gain
> wasn’t that much but the SWR was essentially flat for 20 or 30Mhz.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:12 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> SSB rig?
>
> On Feb 6, 2016 10:22 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> The Yagi was the size of a city block and I think they had a 2Kw or 3Kw
> amp on it.  I do know when we changed it to 27MHz to screw with my friends
> on CB radio, we pegged a lot of S-Meters.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:17 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> I think that's what this is. Doug described a link that does propagate
> like that and he's on this tower, so I assume this is it.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:09:19 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF
> frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio
> antenna on a tower near the CME in Aurora.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> *nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6
> GHz, fiber, diverse fiber, etc.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles
> but if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why
> they aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles
> long. I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things
> out...
>
> You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intellige

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[George Skorup]

My dad got cataracts at 50 or so. Doc told him probably from years of 
welding and/or all of the crap he was exposed to in the steel mill 
during the 80s.


What's the corrective procedure where they use microwave? Isn't that for 
astigmatism? My eye doc told me I'd be a good candidate for that, but it 
obviously isn't permanent. Meh, I just throw in contacts every day.


On 2/6/2016 6:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I would not want to stand near a feedhorn connected to a 1200W signal 
source.

Toasty...
I asked my eye doctor about cataracts caused by microwave exposure.  
He did some research and came up with nothing but I swear I read many 
WWII radar techs got cataracts.

*From:* Eric Kuhnke <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2016 5:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
Wait until they discover troposcatter and modern troposcatter modems 
(the US military uses them, and a few other NATO countries). You need 
dual diversity dishes on each end and they have to be immense. There's 
lots of old abandoned troposcatter stuff in northern Alaska and the 
Yukon, Nunavut which provided remote-site radar data links to the SAGE 
network.


google image search alaska tropo scatter:

https://www.google.com/search?q=alaska+tropo+scatter=100=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwjFq-7KrOTKAhUP6WMKHcSXDTgQ_AUIBygB=1067=730


http://www.comtechsystems.com/products-systems/troposcatter-hardware/

http://www.comtechsystems.com/product/cs67200i-modem/


you thought some licensed band 6 GHz stuff had a high EIRP with 8' 
dishes...  Imagine putting a 1200W amplifier (which is about a 4000W 
electrical load, a lot is lost to heat) into the feed of a 25 foot 
dish feed.
On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:


Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF
or VHF frequencies? I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a
ham radio antenna on a tower near the CME in Aurora.
*From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
*nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz,
11\6 GHz, fiber, diverse fiber, etc.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
    *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to
8.1 miles but if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.
This is also why they aren’t in business any more besides the
inept management.

Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10
miles long. I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really
stretch things out...

You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings. :-)



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

--------------------

*From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com
<mailto:eric.kuh...@gma

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Rory Conaway]

If I remember right, they only transmitted some bulk data at night.  Probably 
accounting data.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:42 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11


How was daytime performance?   Guy down the block has 14Mhz rig along with 
typical Ham talk too much bands
On Feb 6, 2016 1:14 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
No, some type of commercial Ham Equipment for transmitting data.  However, it 
also did voice and we moved that bad boy up to 27MHz one night for fun.   The 
Yagi was interesting in that even with it’s size, the gain wasn’t that much but 
the SWR was essentially flat for 20 or 30Mhz.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:12 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11


SSB rig?
On Feb 6, 2016 10:22 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
The Yagi was the size of a city block and I think they had a 2Kw or 3Kw amp on 
it.  I do know when we changed it to 27MHz to screw with my friends on CB 
radio, we pegged a lot of S-Meters.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

I think that's what this is. Doug described a link that does propagate like 
that and he's on this tower, so I assume this is it.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:09:19 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF 
frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio antenna 
on a tower near the CME in Aurora.


From: Mike Hammett<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

*nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6 GHz, 
fiber, diverse fiber, etc.


-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles but 
if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why they 
aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.

Rory

From: Af [mailt

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Eric Kuhnke]

Wait until they discover troposcatter and modern troposcatter modems (the
US military uses them, and a few other NATO countries). You need dual
diversity dishes on each end and they have to be immense. There's lots of
old abandoned troposcatter stuff in northern Alaska and the Yukon, Nunavut
which provided remote-site radar data links to the SAGE network.

google image search alaska tropo scatter:

https://www.google.com/search?q=alaska+tropo+scatter=100=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwjFq-7KrOTKAhUP6WMKHcSXDTgQ_AUIBygB=1067=730


http://www.comtechsystems.com/products-systems/troposcatter-hardware/

http://www.comtechsystems.com/product/cs67200i-modem/


you thought some licensed band 6 GHz stuff had a high EIRP with 8'
dishes...  Imagine putting a 1200W amplifier (which is about a 4000W
electrical load, a lot is lost to heat) into the feed of a 25 foot dish
feed.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF
> frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio
> antenna on a tower near the CME in Aurora.
>
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> *nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6
> GHz, fiber, diverse fiber, etc.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles
> but if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why
> they aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles
> long. I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things
> out...
>
> You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> High frequency trading :-(
>
> On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC.
>
>
> <http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs%2168218003%21-717285941>
> http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs!68218003!-717285941
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
>
> On 2/5/2016 12:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
> Whose are those long links shooting east-west across the lake?
>
> On Feb 4, 2016 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> I don't have many places where I ca

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Jaime Solorza]

Use Google Earth and check out the sites at WSMR by Oro Grande Range
On Feb 6, 2016 5:03 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wait until they discover troposcatter and modern troposcatter modems (the
> US military uses them, and a few other NATO countries). You need dual
> diversity dishes on each end and they have to be immense. There's lots of
> old abandoned troposcatter stuff in northern Alaska and the Yukon, Nunavut
> which provided remote-site radar data links to the SAGE network.
>
> google image search alaska tropo scatter:
>
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=alaska+tropo+scatter=100=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwjFq-7KrOTKAhUP6WMKHcSXDTgQ_AUIBygB=1067=730
>
>
> http://www.comtechsystems.com/products-systems/troposcatter-hardware/
>
> http://www.comtechsystems.com/product/cs67200i-modem/
>
>
> you thought some licensed band 6 GHz stuff had a high EIRP with 8'
> dishes...  Imagine putting a 1200W amplifier (which is about a 4000W
> electrical load, a lot is lost to heat) into the feed of a 25 foot dish
> feed.
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF
>> frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio
>> antenna on a tower near the CME in Aurora.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>
>> *nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6
>> GHz, fiber, diverse fiber, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>
>> I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles
>> but if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why
>> they aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>
>>
>>
>> Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles
>> long. I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things
>> out...
>>
>> You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>
>> High frequency trading :-(
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC.
>>
>>
>> <

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Chuck McCown]

I would not want to stand near a feedhorn connected to a 1200W signal source.  
Toasty...
I asked my eye doctor about cataracts caused by microwave exposure.  He did 
some research and came up with nothing but I swear I read many WWII radar techs 
got cataracts.  

From: Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 5:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Wait until they discover troposcatter and modern troposcatter modems (the US 
military uses them, and a few other NATO countries). You need dual diversity 
dishes on each end and they have to be immense. There's lots of old abandoned 
troposcatter stuff in northern Alaska and the Yukon, Nunavut which provided 
remote-site radar data links to the SAGE network.


google image search alaska tropo scatter:

https://www.google.com/search?q=alaska+tropo+scatter=100=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwjFq-7KrOTKAhUP6WMKHcSXDTgQ_AUIBygB=1067=730


http://www.comtechsystems.com/products-systems/troposcatter-hardware/

http://www.comtechsystems.com/product/cs67200i-modem/



you thought some licensed band 6 GHz stuff had a high EIRP with 8' dishes...  
Imagine putting a 1200W amplifier (which is about a 4000W electrical load, a 
lot is lost to heat) into the feed of a 25 foot dish feed.


On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

  Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF 
frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio antenna 
on a tower near the CME in Aurora.


  From: Mike Hammett 
  Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

  *nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6 GHz, 
fiber, diverse fiber, etc.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11


  I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles but 
if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why they 
aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.



  Rory



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11



  Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles 
long. I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things 
out...

  You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

  High frequency trading :-(

  On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

  According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC.

  
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs!68218003!-717285941

bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 2/5/2016 12:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

Whose are those long links shooting east-west across the lake?

On Feb 4, 2016 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

I don't have many places where I can even get a half of that.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
    To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:54:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

160 MHz?  Must be nice.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 4, 2016 9:52 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

5 miles
2x80
3'
2ms
980Mbps



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

> We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
> since it went in a couple months ago.

What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?


>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
> To: af <af@afmug.com>
> Su

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Ken Hohhof]

Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF 
frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio antenna 
on a tower near the CME in Aurora.


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

*nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6 GHz, 
fiber, diverse fiber, etc.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11


I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles but 
if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why they 
aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.



Rory



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11



Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles long. 
I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things out...

You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

High frequency trading :-(

On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC.

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs!68218003!-717285941

bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 2/5/2016 12:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

  Whose are those long links shooting east-west across the lake?

  On Feb 4, 2016 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

  I don't have many places where I can even get a half of that.



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:54:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

  160 MHz?  Must be nice.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Feb 4, 2016 9:52 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

  5 miles
  2x80
  3'
  2ms
  980Mbps



  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

  > We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
  > since it went in a couple months ago.

  What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?


  >
  >
  >
  > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
  > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
  > To: af <af@afmug.com>
  > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
  >
  >
  >
  > hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
  > suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
  >
  >
  >
  > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
  > (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
  >
  > Waiting for six full links
  >
  >
  >
  > I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again.  EOM?
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > Tyson Burris, President
  > Internet Communications Inc.
  > 739 Commerce Dr.
  > Franklin, IN 46131
  >
  > 317-738-0320 Daytime #
  > 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
  > Online: www.surfici.net
  >
  >
  >
  > Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
  >
  >
  > On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
  >
  > Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them?
  >
  >

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Rory Conaway]

The Yagi was the size of a city block and I think they had a 2Kw or 3Kw amp on 
it.  I do know when we changed it to 27MHz to screw with my friends on CB 
radio, we pegged a lot of S-Meters.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

I think that's what this is. Doug described a link that does propagate like 
that and he's on this tower, so I assume this is it.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:09:19 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF 
frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio antenna 
on a tower near the CME in Aurora.


From: Mike Hammett<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

*nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6 GHz, 
fiber, diverse fiber, etc.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
____________
From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles but 
if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why they 
aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles long. 
I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things out...

You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Jaime Solorza]

SSB rig?
On Feb 6, 2016 10:22 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> The Yagi was the size of a city block and I think they had a 2Kw or 3Kw
> amp on it.  I do know when we changed it to 27MHz to screw with my friends
> on CB radio, we pegged a lot of S-Meters.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:17 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> I think that's what this is. Doug described a link that does propagate
> like that and he's on this tower, so I assume this is it.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:09:19 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF
> frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio
> antenna on a tower near the CME in Aurora.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> *nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6
> GHz, fiber, diverse fiber, etc.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles
> but if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why
> they aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles
> long. I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things
> out...
>
> You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> High frequency trading :-(
>
> On Fe

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Jaime Solorza]

On the Gold coast side or by navy yard
On Feb 6, 2016 8:50 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles
> long. I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things
> out...
>
> You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ----------
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> High frequency trading :-(
> On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC.
>>
>>
>> <http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs%2168218003%21-717285941>
>> http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs!68218003!-717285941
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 2/5/2016 12:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>
>> Whose are those long links shooting east-west across the lake?
>> On Feb 4, 2016 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have many places where I can even get a half of that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:54:54 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>>
>>> 160 MHz?  Must be nice.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Feb 4, 2016 9:52 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 5 miles
>>>> 2x80
>>>> 3'
>>>> 2ms
>>>> 980Mbps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>>>
>>>> > We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
>>>> > since it went in a couple months ago.
>>>>
>>>> What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
>>>> > To: af <af@afmug.com>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
>>>> > suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
>>>> > (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Waiting for six full links
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again.  EOM?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Tyson Burris, President
>>>> > Internet Communications Inc.
>>>> > 739 Commerce Dr.
>>>> > Franklin, IN 46131
>>>> >
>>>> > 317-738-0320 Daytime #
>>>> > 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
>>>> > Online: www.surfici.net
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard < <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Ken Hohhof]

You can also clear the lake when you just issue PCNs and never build anything, 
just keep renewing the PCNs.

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 9:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles long. 
I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things out...

You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11


High frequency trading :-(

On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

  According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC.

  
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs!68218003!-717285941

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/5/2016 12:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

Whose are those long links shooting east-west across the lake?

On Feb 4, 2016 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

  I don't have many places where I can even get a half of that.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:54:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11


  160 MHz?  Must be nice.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Feb 4, 2016 9:52 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

5 miles
2x80
3'
2ms
980Mbps



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
    Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

> We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
> since it went in a couple months ago.

What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?


>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
        > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
> To: af <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
> suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
> (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
> Waiting for six full links
>
>
>
> I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again.  EOM?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tyson Burris, President
> Internet Communications Inc.
> 739 Commerce Dr.
> Franklin, IN 46131
>
> 317-738-0320 Daytime #
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
> Online: www.surfici.net
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
>
> Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Mike Hammett]

Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles long. 
I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things out... 

You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings. :-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 


High frequency trading :-( 
On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 



According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC. 

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs!68218003!-717285941
 
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 
On 2/5/2016 12:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: 



Whose are those long links shooting east-west across the lake? 
On Feb 4, 2016 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




I don't have many places where I can even get a half of that. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:54:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 


160 MHz? Must be nice. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Feb 4, 2016 9:52 PM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote: 


5 miles 
2x80 
3' 
2ms 
980Mbps 



-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Matt 
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 

> We have one of the links up and it’s been solid. I haven’t touched it 
> since it went in a couple months ago. 

What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput? 


> 
> 
> 
> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM 
> To: af < af@afmug.com > 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 
> 
> 
> 
> hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I 
> suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc 
> (ICI) < t...@franklinisp.net > wrote: 
> 
> Waiting for six full links 
> 
> 
> 
> I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again. EOM? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tyson Burris, President 
> Internet Communications Inc. 
> 739 Commerce Dr. 
> Franklin, IN 46131 
> 
> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
> Online: www.surfici.net 
> 
> 
> 
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers! 
> 
> 
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 
> 
> Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them? 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Rory Conaway]

I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles but 
if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why they 
aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles long. 
I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things out...

You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

High frequency trading :-(
On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" 
<part15...@gmail.com<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC.

<http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs%2168218003%21-717285941>http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs!68218003!-717285941<http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs%2168218003%21-717285941>

bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


On 2/5/2016 12:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

Whose are those long links shooting east-west across the lake?
On Feb 4, 2016 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I don't have many places where I can even get a half of that.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Josh Luthman" 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:54:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

160 MHz?  Must be nice.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2016 9:52 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
5 miles
2x80
3'
2ms
980Mbps



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

> We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
> since it went in a couple months ago.

What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?


>
>
>
> From: Af [mai

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Mike Hammett]

*nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6 GHz, 
fiber, diverse fiber, etc. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 



I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles but 
if someone spit in the air in the path it went down. This is also why they 
aren’t in business any more besides the inept management. 

Rory 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 


Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles long. 
I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things out... 

You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings. :-) 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -


From: "Eric Kuhnke" < eric.kuh...@gmail.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 
High frequency trading :-( 

On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 

According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC. 

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs!68218003!-717285941
 bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 

On 2/5/2016 12:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: 


Whose are those long links shooting east-west across the lake? 

On Feb 4, 2016 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 


I don't have many places where I can even get a half of that. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:54:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 
160 MHz? Must be nice. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Feb 4, 2016 9:52 PM, "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote: 
5 miles 
2x80 
3' 
2ms 
980Mbps 



-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Matt 
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 

> We have one of the links up and it’s been solid. I haven’t touched it 
> since it went in a couple months ago. 

What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput? 


> 
> 
> 
> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM 
> To: af < af@afmug.com > 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11 
> 
> 
> 
> hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I 
> suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc 
> (ICI) < t...@franklinisp.net > wrote: 
> 
> Waiting for six full links 
> 
> 
> 
> I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again. EOM? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tyson Burris, President 
> Internet Communications Inc. 
> 739 Commerce Dr. 
> Franklin, IN 46131 
> 
> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
> Online: www.surfici.net 
> 
> 
> 
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers! 
> 
> 
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 
> 
> Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them? 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Rory Conaway]

I worked at Rockwell in Irvine 35 years ago and they had a Yagi that was 
connected to their other office in Australia for data transfer.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF 
frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio antenna 
on a tower near the CME in Aurora.


From: Mike Hammett<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

*nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6 GHz, 
fiber, diverse fiber, etc.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles but 
if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why they 
aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles long. 
I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things out...

You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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________________
From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

High frequency trading :-(
On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" 
<part15...@gmail.com<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC.

<http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs%2168218003%21-717285941>http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs!68218003!-717285941<http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs%2168218003%21-717285941>

bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


On 2/5/2016 12:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

Whose are those long links shooting east-west across the lake?
On Feb 4, 2016 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Josh Luthman]

How is that possible?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 6, 2016 12:12 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> I worked at Rockwell in Irvine 35 years ago and they had a Yagi that was
> connected to their other office in Australia for data transfer.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:09 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> Isn’t there a NY-Chicago HFT link using skywave propagation at HF or VHF
> frequencies?  I know there’s a big antenna that looks like a ham radio
> antenna on a tower near the CME in Aurora.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2016 10:56 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> *nods* these guys have redundant networks with 80 GHz, 23\18 GHz, 11\6
> GHz, fiber, diverse fiber, etc.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:54:50 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> I know a company that was running an 80GHz link in Vegas out to 8.1 miles
> but if someone spit in the air in the path it went down.  This is also why
> they aren’t in business any more besides the inept management.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:50 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> Yup, there's a ton of HFT guys doing crazy things. 80 GHz links 10 miles
> long. I beleive I recall an 18 mile 23 GHz link. They really stretch things
> out...
>
> You can clear the lake when you launch of 1k' buildings.  :-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, February 5, 2016 2:32:06 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> High frequency trading :-(
>
> On Feb 5, 2016 12:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> According to the FCC WQTY273 belongs to Geodesic Networks LLC.
>
>
> <http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs%2168218003%21-717285941>
> http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/results.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=nLw7W1DVqvX195sHmH8nMWcGwbhfG2DdyKNpQtjnGnt7mdfv8ygs!68218003!-717285941
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
>
> On 2/5/2016 12:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
> Whose are those long links shooting east-west across the lake?
>
> On Feb 4, 2016 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> I don't have many places where I can even get a half of that.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https:

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Jaime Fink]

You’ll be fine without having to do anything crazy at that distance, we have 
some 45+ mile links out there on B11 already, obviously dish size is unique to 
the coordination, but thought I’d share for reference.

Jaime

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh 
Baird <joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

I'm hoping to use them for a 18-20mi link.  Don't need 980mbps though.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Mathew Howard 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm looking at doing a 4.65 mile link... I was hoping I could get away with 2' 
dishes, but it's looking to me like that might be pushing it.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
5 miles
2x80
3'
2ms
980Mbps



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

> We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
> since it went in a couple months ago.

What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?


>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
> To: af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
> suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
> (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net<mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:
>
> Waiting for six full links
>
>
>
> I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again.  EOM?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tyson Burris, President
> Internet Communications Inc.
> 739 Commerce Dr.
> Franklin, IN 46131
>
> 317-738-0320 Daytime #
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
> Online: www.surfici.net<http://www.surfici.net>
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard 
> <mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Josh Baird]

Cool - I hope to get with you guys in Louisville and get the link designed.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Jaime Fink <ja...@mimosa.co> wrote:

> You’ll be fine without having to do anything crazy at that distance, we
> have some 45+ mile links out there on B11 already, obviously dish size is
> unique to the coordination, but thought I’d share for reference.
>
> Jaime
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Baird <
> joshba...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> I'm hoping to use them for a 18-20mi link.  Don't need 980mbps though.
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking at doing a 4.65 mile link... I was hoping I could get away
>> with 2' dishes, but it's looking to me like that might be pushing it.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 5 miles
>>> 2x80
>>> 3'
>>> 2ms
>>> 980Mbps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>>
>>> > We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
>>> > since it went in a couple months ago.
>>>
>>> What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
>>> > To: af <af@afmug.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
>>> > suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
>>> > (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Waiting for six full links
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again.  EOM?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Tyson Burris, President
>>> > Internet Communications Inc.
>>> > 739 Commerce Dr.
>>> > Franklin, IN 46131
>>> >
>>> > 317-738-0320 Daytime #
>>> > 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
>>> > Online: www.surfici.net
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them?
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Rory Conaway]

It’s northern Az so not as pleasant as Phoenix.  Sarcasm?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 12:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

And you have s much rain.

From: Rory Conaway<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 12:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

I’ve got a 48 mile link going up and it looks like right now I’m using 4’ 
dishes although we are still working on the 6’ dishes.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Fink
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 11:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Great! Look forward to seeing you there. We’ll be sending out invites to our 
event relatively soon as well.

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh 
Baird <joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:27 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Cool - I hope to get with you guys in Louisville and get the link designed.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Jaime Fink 
<ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>> wrote:
You’ll be fine without having to do anything crazy at that distance, we have 
some 45+ mile links out there on B11 already, obviously dish size is unique to 
the coordination, but thought I’d share for reference.

Jaime

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh 
Baird <joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

I'm hoping to use them for a 18-20mi link.  Don't need 980mbps though.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Mathew Howard 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm looking at doing a 4.65 mile link... I was hoping I could get away with 2' 
dishes, but it's looking to me like that might be pushing it.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
5 miles
2x80
3'
2ms
980Mbps



-----Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

> We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
> since it went in a couple months ago.

What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?


>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
> To: af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
> suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
> (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net<mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:
>
> Waiting for six full links
>
>
>
> I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again.  EOM?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tyson Burris, President
> Internet Communications Inc.
> 739 Commerce Dr.
> Franklin, IN 46131
>
> 317-738-0320 Daytime #
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
> Online: www.surfici.net<http://www.surfici.net>
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard 
> <mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Mathew Howard]

I'm looking at doing a 4.65 mile link... I was hoping I could get away with
2' dishes, but it's looking to me like that might be pushing it.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> 5 miles
> 2x80
> 3'
> 2ms
> 980Mbps
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
> > We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
> > since it went in a couple months ago.
>
> What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
> > To: af <af@afmug.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
> >
> >
> >
> > hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
> > suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
> > (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
> >
> > Waiting for six full links
> >
> >
> >
> > I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again.  EOM?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tyson Burris, President
> > Internet Communications Inc.
> > 739 Commerce Dr.
> > Franklin, IN 46131
> >
> > 317-738-0320 Daytime #
> > 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
> > Online: www.surfici.net
> >
> >
> >
> > Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
> >
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them?
> >
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Josh Baird]

I'm hoping to use them for a 18-20mi link.  Don't need 980mbps though.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm looking at doing a 4.65 mile link... I was hoping I could get away
> with 2' dishes, but it's looking to me like that might be pushing it.
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
>> 5 miles
>> 2x80
>> 3'
>> 2ms
>> 980Mbps
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>>
>> > We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
>> > since it went in a couple months ago.
>>
>> What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
>> > To: af <af@afmug.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
>> > suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
>> > (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Waiting for six full links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again.  EOM?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tyson Burris, President
>> > Internet Communications Inc.
>> > 739 Commerce Dr.
>> > Franklin, IN 46131
>> >
>> > 317-738-0320 Daytime #
>> > 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
>> > Online: www.surfici.net
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them?
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Ken Hohhof]

I guess one advantage of a 48 mile link is it probably won’t rain over the 
entire path at the same time.

You get those haboobs though.  Dust fade?  Do you ever see Imhotep’s face in 
the dust cloud?


From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 1:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

It’s northern Az so not as pleasant as Phoenix.  Sarcasm?

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 12:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

 

And you have s much rain.

 

From: Rory Conaway 

Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 12:57 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

 

I’ve got a 48 mile link going up and it looks like right now I’m using 4’ 
dishes although we are still working on the 6’ dishes.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Fink
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 11:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

 

Great! Look forward to seeing you there. We’ll be sending out invites to our 
event relatively soon as well.

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:27 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

 

Cool - I hope to get with you guys in Louisville and get the link designed.

 

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Jaime Fink <ja...@mimosa.co> wrote:

You’ll be fine without having to do anything crazy at that distance, we have 
some 45+ mile links out there on B11 already, obviously dish size is unique to 
the coordination, but thought I’d share for reference. 

 

Jaime

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

 

I'm hoping to use them for a 18-20mi link.  Don't need 980mbps though.

 

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm looking at doing a 4.65 mile link... I was hoping I could get away with 2' 
dishes, but it's looking to me like that might be pushing it.

 

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

5 miles
2x80
3'
2ms
980Mbps



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

> We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
> since it went in a couple months ago.

What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?


>
>
>

> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
> To: af <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
> suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
> (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
> Waiting for six full links
>
>
>
> I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again.  EOM?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tyson Burris, President
> Internet Communications Inc.
> 739 Commerce Dr.
> Franklin, IN 46131
>
> 317-738-0320 Daytime #
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
> Online: www.surfici.net
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them?
>
>

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Jaime Fink]

Great! Look forward to seeing you there. We’ll be sending out invites to our 
event relatively soon as well.

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh 
Baird <joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:27 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Cool - I hope to get with you guys in Louisville and get the link designed.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Jaime Fink 
<ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>> wrote:
You’ll be fine without having to do anything crazy at that distance, we have 
some 45+ mile links out there on B11 already, obviously dish size is unique to 
the coordination, but thought I’d share for reference.

Jaime

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh 
Baird <joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

I'm hoping to use them for a 18-20mi link.  Don't need 980mbps though.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Mathew Howard 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm looking at doing a 4.65 mile link... I was hoping I could get away with 2' 
dishes, but it's looking to me like that might be pushing it.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
5 miles
2x80
3'
2ms
980Mbps



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

> We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
> since it went in a couple months ago.

What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?


>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
> To: af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
> suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
> (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net<mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:
>
> Waiting for six full links
>
>
>
> I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again.  EOM?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tyson Burris, President
> Internet Communications Inc.
> 739 Commerce Dr.
> Franklin, IN 46131
>
> 317-738-0320 Daytime #
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
> Online: www.surfici.net<http://www.surfici.net>
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard 
> <mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

[Rory Conaway]

I’ve got a 48 mile link going up and it looks like right now I’m using 4’ 
dishes although we are still working on the 6’ dishes.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Fink
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 11:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Great! Look forward to seeing you there. We’ll be sending out invites to our 
event relatively soon as well.

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh 
Baird <joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:27 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

Cool - I hope to get with you guys in Louisville and get the link designed.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Jaime Fink 
<ja...@mimosa.co<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>> wrote:
You’ll be fine without having to do anything crazy at that distance, we have 
some 45+ mile links out there on B11 already, obviously dish size is unique to 
the coordination, but thought I’d share for reference.

Jaime

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh 
Baird <joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

I'm hoping to use them for a 18-20mi link.  Don't need 980mbps though.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Mathew Howard 
<mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm looking at doing a 4.65 mile link... I was hoping I could get away with 2' 
dishes, but it's looking to me like that might be pushing it.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
5 miles
2x80
3'
2ms
980Mbps



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11

> We have one of the links up and it’s been solid.  I haven’t touched it
> since it went in a couple months ago.

What is distance, channel size, dish size, latency and throughput?


>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 3:08 PM
> To: af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11
>
>
>
> hmm... I probably don't want to put one up before Q2 anyway... I
> suppose I should start working on getting it licensed fairly soon.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc
> (ICI) <t...@franklinisp.net<mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:
>
> Waiting for six full links
>
>
>
> I got a call and was told they have pushed the date back again.  EOM?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tyson Burris, President
> Internet Communications Inc.
> 739 Commerce Dr.
> Franklin, IN 46131
>
> 317-738-0320 Daytime #
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
> Online: www.surfici.net<http://www.surfici.net>
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mathew Howard 
> <mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Are these things shipping yet, and is anyone here using them?
>
>