[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vila Franca do Campo - Madeira family
I believe I found the brother of Francisco. If someone could help with the translation, I would be grateful. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-B-1856-1861/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-B-1856-1861_item1/P6.html I believe is says: Marianno, legitmate son of Manuel Joaquim and Maria do Rosario, native of Sao Pedro, in Vila Franca do Campo. 10 Jan. 1857. I can't make out the rest. I do see something about family Francisco Madeira and Maria de Estrella -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Padro Translation help
If someone could translate this marriage record for me I would appreciate it. It is really hard for me to read It is the marriage between Mariano Antonio de Medeiros and Mariana Jacintha. I believe on the left page. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-C-1781-1829/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-C-1781-1829_item1/P179.html Thanks! Steven -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vila Franca do Campo - Madeira family
It says he was born on the 1 of January, not 10, and baptized on the 25th. The godparents were Jose and Ana, children of Francisco Madeira and Maria da Estrella who were also natives of the same parish. Denise D'Antona Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Steven McNamara skmcnam...@comcast.net wrote: I believe I found the brother of Francisco. If someone could help with the translation, I would be grateful. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-B-1856-1861/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-B-1856-1861_item1/P6.html I believe is says: Marianno, legitmate son of Manuel Joaquim and Maria do Rosario, native of Sao Pedro, in Vila Franca do Campo. 10 Jan. 1857. I can't make out the rest. I do see something about family Francisco Madeira and Maria de Estrella -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Padro Translation help
16 January 1826. Mariano Antonio son of unknown parents baptized in Nossa Senhora da Annunciacao in Achada married Mariana Thomazia da Costa daughter of Pedro da Costa and Thomazia Jacintha. Clearly the priest made an error on the brides name being different in the margin and text. Denise D'Antona Sent from my iPad On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:11 AM, Steven McNamara skmcnam...@comcast.net wrote: If someone could translate this marriage record for me I would appreciate it. It is really hard for me to read It is the marriage between Mariano Antonio de Medeiros and Mariana Jacintha. I believe on the left page. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-C-1781-1829/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-C-1781-1829_item1/P179.html Thanks! Steven -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help witih baptismal record please
Anna - bottom of right page and top left of next page (images
#66/67 1811-1826, Nossa Senhora da Luz, Graciosa)
daughter of Manuel Antonio Hortins and Maria Josefa born ??? 1816
Maternos - ??? There are several words directly after the word neta that I
cannot read.
Paternos - Antonio Jose Souza and Josefa Maria ???
There are several other names after this and I can see paterna/maternas
again
Are the grandparents correct as above or am I reading this completely
wrong?? (more than likely, I am!)
*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1811-1826/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1811-1826_item1/P66.html*wlmailhtml:{6C3F63ED-7400-4FB0-9209-9AD1470742EB}mid://0314/!x-usc:http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1811-1826/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1811-1826_item1/P66.html
(1st
page)
*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1811-1826/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1811-1826_item1/P67.html*wlmailhtml:{6C3F63ED-7400-4FB0-9209-9AD1470742EB}mid://0314/!x-usc:http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1811-1826/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1811-1826_item1/P67.html
(second
half of document)
Any help/suggestions, greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
Lee in WV
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help witih baptismal record please
*Lee, I'm sorry that missed the second part of your question on this individual. Anna's Paternal Grandparents were Antonio Jose de Souza and Josefa Maria; Her Maternal Grandparents were Mathias Jose and Maria Josefa. All grandparents were living at the time of the Baptism, in the parish of Nossa Senhora da Luz da Graciosa. Anna was born 9-May-1816, and was baptized on the 19th day of the same month, in the same church.* On Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:30:54 AM UTC-4, Lee wrote: Anna - bottom of right page and top left of next page (images #66/67 1811-1826, Nossa Senhora da Luz, Graciosa) daughter of Manuel Antonio Hortins and Maria Josefa born ??? 1816 Maternos - ??? There are several words directly after the word neta that I cannot read. Paternos - Antonio Jose Souza and Josefa Maria ??? There are several other names after this and I can see paterna/maternas again Are the grandparents correct as above or am I reading this completely wrong?? (more than likely, I am!) *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1811-1826/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1811-1826_item1/P66.html* (1st page) *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1811-1826/GRA-SC-LUZ-B-1811-1826_item1/P67.html* (second half of document) Any help/suggestions, greatly appreciated. Thank you! Lee in WV -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Families in Santa Barbara - Terceira: Machado Velho, Ferreira da Costa, Mendes, Cardozo da Rocha, Cardoso da Rocha, Cardoso Velho
Roberto, I have on my family tree several of the surnames you gave, including Velho, all from Terceira, but not from that parish. I do know João Ventura, the archivist from Terceira, and he may help you getting a document in the Conservatoria. If you want to write to my private email, I can exchange some information with you - myportuguesegen at gmail dot com Eu falo portugues, minha lingua nativa. Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:39:10 AM UTC-4, Roberto Machado Velho wrote: Hello, I am searching for the Families Machado Velho, Mendes, Ferreira da Costa, Cardozo da Rocha, Cardoso da Rocha and Cardoso Velho in the old Parish of Santa Barbara - what is today Serreta, Doze Ribeiras, Santa Barbara and Cinco Ribeiras. (Estou procurando/a procurar pelas Familias Machado Velho, Mendes, Ferreira da Costa, Cardozo da Rocha, Cardoso da Rocha e Cardoso Velho na antiga Freguesia/Paroquia de Santa Barbara - ilha terceira - no que hoje sao as freguesias de Serreta, Doze Ribeiras, Santa Barbara e Cinco Ribeiras). My newer information is the death of the mother of my great-grandfather in Canada De Nossa Senhora d'Ajuda, Santa Barbara, in 1909. In 1875 she was living in Rua dos Pocos - Santa Barbara, with her son Antonio Machado Velho - my greatgrandfather - where all this research started. I have a note in a Marriage Certificate telling about the death of her daugther in 1945 - but this is not available on internet. My oldest information is related to all the families I quoted before and today I have information on the marriages - 4 of them - happening in between 1781 and 1794: - Luiz Ignacio Mendes and Maria Josefa - 1781 - Francisco Machado Velho and Francisca Mariana - 1782 - Raimundo Ferreira da Costa and Maria Roza - 1794 - Sebastiao Jose da Costa and Anna Joaquina - 1793. I also know that the sons of Raimundo and Sebastiao were connected in 4th degree in blood. Does anyone recognize someone you have records or had seen before on your researches ? Also would like to ask: - Do you know if any person can get a death certificate just going to the Conservatoria ? I want to try to ask that one of 1945 quoted on top. Do you know to which one I would to address in Terceira ? One in Santa Barbara or in Angra do Heroismo ? - Do you know if all the archives of the Church in Santa Barbara are available on the Cultura Azores website ? Is there any other kind of archives that could provide information about Santa Barbara, like Certificates of Properties - houses or some kind of School, or any other thing was being recorded in archives ? - I tried to find the Archives in Universidade do Minho, that some people quoted in the group, but I cannot find archives for Terceira. Are there any ? - Are there any other archives for Terceira or the region of Santa Barbara that I could look for ? - I have used the Rois/Confessados list available in Cultura Azores for Santa Barbara - and that gave me a lot of information. I am thinking of turning that list (mainly a Census of all Santa Barbara made by the priest in 1875) in a listed - searchable - pdf file. Does anyone has interest on that ? Do you know where I could publish that so people could use it ? Cultura Azores receives submissions ? - Does anyone has a text or pdf searchable version of the index of Marriages available to Santa Barbara ? It is not possible search names in the images available. I started to decompose that set of marriages in families, in case someone has interest. - I believed that the name Machado Velho disappeared in Santa Barbara because my great-grandfather went to Brazil, his brother died early without sons/daughters and their 2 other sisters just either did not get married or changed their surnames to the ones of their husbands. Do you know any way I could track the sisters ? I could not find a marriage certificate to them in the index of Santa Barbara - one is called Angelica (and there is just one Angelica, not the one I am searching) and the other one Maria (as you know, 40% of the women getting married by that time). - Anyone knows if people asking for passports in Terceira would have them issued also in Terceira ? And then the boats to Brazil and United States were leaving Terceira or some other Island nearby ? - Does anyone has a map that tell the names of streets in Santa Barbara ? Google maps has still few and a reconstruct some by google maps street view walking through them but I could not find several - also it is not clear the limit of them, as they bifurcate sometimes. I also would like to tell anyone that is searching information about Sao Bartolomeu, Santa Barbara (the old parish - including Cinco Ribeiras) and Doze Ribeiras (the old Parish - including Serreta) that there is an article from Jose Avelino Rocha dos Santos that describes the Enxurrada
[AZORES-Genealogy] Name help
Hello, I hope someone here could offer some help with the father's last name abbreviation for the marriage. What I read from the marriage is: Pedro de Faria son of Pedro [Joao/Goas] and his wife Maria Pereira. I'm not sure is the last name is an abbreviation or just Joao. The ancestor is Alferes Pedro de Faria (b. ~1729 d. 18-Apr-1784) married to Rita Maria Andrade. I found a Pedro born on 17/19 Jan 1729 son of Pedro Goncalves(z) and Maria de Freitas which falls within his birth range however there is a discrepancy with the parents names. It is possible that the father is Pedro Joao Goncalves and the mother Maria [Pereira de Freitas/de Freitas Pereira]. Pedro's birth, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734_item1/P99.html Pedro and Rita marriage, left page top http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772_item1/P77.html (Alferes) Pedro's death, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785_item1/P185.html Thank you, Manny -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help witih baptismal record please
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
I'm going to a class at the end of May on these DNA tools. I've looked at the Matrix, but I haven't had the time to figure it out yet. Cheri On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:09 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Me too! -- From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 00:03:57 + I think we found the line we “surmised” to be our connection but; I don’t think we found anything concrete and no, I’m not sure now who it was. I’ll go back and try again… Sent from Windows Mail *From:* nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:01 PM *To:* azores group azores@googlegroups.com Ok Sam...I'll take a look! However, I'm not sure I'll understand any better than you do! Did you and I find our connection on paper before all this DNA? I thought we did but without going back through all of our back and forth emails I'm not sure..you may not remember any more than I do! That was quite a while ago! Nancy Jean -- From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 23:49:08 + Nancy Jean; You are right, you should be added to the list to make 14 of us that seem to share the same dna. Now, if I’m reading the Matriz correctly and there is a good chance I’m not!, we all share dna with a William “Bill” Antoine; however, not all of us share the same dna. Don’t know if I’ve expressed that correctly. If you want to understand what I’m trying to say, go to ftdna ff and then down to Matrix. Put all 13 names in the grid, you’ll only be able to do 10 at a time. See if you come to the same conclusion as I or am I just not understanding what it is telling me? Hope you can understand this better than I, Sam Sent from Windows Mail *From:* nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:25 PM *To:* azores group azores@googlegroups.com Hi Sam, Interesting that neither Uncle John or I show up as a match to you.I thought we actually determined a common ancestor a good while agoor I am I mistaken? Nancy Jean -- Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:10:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list From: bellema...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam, I cannot find your email addy. Can you send it to my email addy? The Sharp name intrigued me and I think I have some info on this person and her Portuguese maiden name. She married a Sharp. No relation. E On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:02 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn’t you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name help
Hi Manny, It sure looks like Joao to me but you're right that it looks a bit like Goas.hopefully someone else will weigh in for you! This is hard writing to read! Nancy Jean (P.S. I've looked at your gedcom several timesshould be easy to find with you being 2nd -4th cousin but I can't figure it out yet!) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 07:33:30 -0700 From: kambb...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name help Hello, I hope someone here could offer some help with the father's last name abbreviation for the marriage. What I read from the marriage is: Pedro de Faria son of Pedro [Joao/Goas] and his wife Maria Pereira. I'm not sure is the last name is an abbreviation or just Joao. The ancestor is Alferes Pedro de Faria (b. ~1729 d. 18-Apr-1784) married to Rita Maria Andrade. I found a Pedro born on 17/19 Jan 1729 son of Pedro Goncalves(z) and Maria de Freitas which falls within his birth range however there is a discrepancy with the parents names. It is possible that the father is Pedro Joao Goncalves and the mother Maria [Pereira de Freitas/de Freitas Pereira]. Pedro's birth, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734_item1/P99.html Pedro and Rita marriage, left page tophttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772_item1/P77.html (Alferes) Pedro's death, left page bottomhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785_item1/P185.html Thank you, Manny -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Cheri, That will be great.all very complex..I think I've just found a good way to separate my numerous cousin matches into clusters using the in common with and I'm going to make some lists that might help figure more out. Nancy Jean From: gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:49:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list To: azores@googlegroups.com I'm going to a class at the end of May on these DNA tools. I've looked at the Matrix, but I haven't had the time to figure it out yet. Cheri On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:09 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Me too! From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 00:03:57 + I think we found the line we surmised to be our connection but; I don't think we found anything concrete and no, I'm not sure now who it was. I'll go back and try again... Sent from Windows Mail From: nancy jean baptiste Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:01 PM To: azores group Ok Sam...I'll take a look! However, I'm not sure I'll understand any better than you do! Did you and I find our connection on paper before all this DNA? I thought we did but without going back through all of our back and forth emails I'm not sure..you may not remember any more than I do! That was quite a while ago! Nancy Jean From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 23:49:08 + Nancy Jean; You are right, you should be added to the list to make 14 of us that seem to share the same dna. Now, if I'm reading the Matriz correctly and there is a good chance I'm not!, we all share dna with a William Bill Antoine; however, not all of us share the same dna. Don't know if I've expressed that correctly. If you want to understand what I'm trying to say, go to ftdna ff and then down to Matrix. Put all 13 names in the grid, you'll only be able to do 10 at a time. See if you come to the same conclusion as I or am I just not understanding what it is telling me? Hope you can understand this better than I, Sam Sent from Windows Mail From: nancy jean baptiste Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:25 PM To: azores group Hi Sam, Interesting that neither Uncle John or I show up as a match to you.I thought we actually determined a common ancestor a good while agoor I am I mistaken? Nancy Jean Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:10:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list From: bellema...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam, I cannot find your email addy. Can you send it to my email addy? The Sharp name intrigued me and I think I have some info on this person and her Portuguese maiden name. She married a Sharp. No relation. E On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:02 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn't you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Cheri; That’s great! I will look forward to you passing on the information you learn. Thanks, Sam Sent from Windows Mail From: Cheri Mello Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:49 AM To: Azores Genealogy I'm going to a class at the end of May on these DNA tools. I've looked at the Matrix, but I haven't had the time to figure it out yet. Cheri http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Bride's Mother's name
I am having trouble figuring out Maria Gaspar's mother's first name. The last name is Franca but first name is hard to determine. Also what do the words after the mother's name mean? The record is the middle one on the page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683_item1/P8.html Any help is appreciated. Fred -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Bride's Mother's name
Fred I make out the mother's name to be BREOLANJA (Briolanja) and the words after her name simply say forao tas Forao Testemunhas = were witnesses. hope that helps. Hermano Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:30:34 -0700 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Bride's Mother's name From: festrella...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com I am having trouble figuring out Maria Gaspar's mother's first name. The last name is Franca but first name is hard to determine. Also what do the words after the mother's name mean? The record is the middle one on the page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683_item1/P8.html Any help is appreciated. Fred -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name help
It's Joao. See the accent above Joao in the marriage record. That's the way the priest did his accents. It is identical the Roiz for Rodrigues. And note that J is identical to the J in Jose, in the record below. There is an name Goas or Gois or Goias, etc, but this looks like Joao, Very clear. His full name is likely Pedro Joao Faria JR On Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:53:00 PM UTC-4, nancy jean baptiste wrote: Hi Manny, It sure looks like Joao to me but you're right that it looks a bit like Goas.hopefully someone else will weigh in for you! This is hard writing to read! Nancy Jean (P.S. I've looked at your gedcom several timesshould be easy to find with you being 2nd -4th cousin but I can't figure it out yet!) -- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 07:33:30 -0700 From: kamb...@gmail.com javascript: To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name help Hello, I hope someone here could offer some help with the father's last name abbreviation for the marriage. What I read from the marriage is: Pedro de Faria son of Pedro [Joao/Goas] and his wife Maria Pereira. I'm not sure is the last name is an abbreviation or just Joao. The ancestor is Alferes Pedro de Faria (b. ~1729 d. 18-Apr-1784) married to Rita Maria Andrade. I found a Pedro born on 17/19 Jan 1729 son of Pedro Goncalves(z) and Maria de Freitas which falls within his birth range however there is a discrepancy with the parents names. It is possible that the father is Pedro Joao Goncalves and the mother Maria [Pereira de Freitas/de Freitas Pereira]. Pedro's birth, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734_item1/P99.html Pedro and Rita marriage, left page top http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772_item1/P77.html (Alferes) Pedro's death, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785_item1/P185.html Thank you, Manny -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name help
It's Joao. See the accent above Joao in the marriage record. That's the way the priest did his accents. It is identical the Roiz for Rodrigues. And note that J is identical to the J in Jose, in the record below. There is an name Goas or Gois or Goias, etc, but this looks like Joao, Very clear. JR On Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:53:00 PM UTC-4, nancy jean baptiste wrote: Hi Manny, It sure looks like Joao to me but you're right that it looks a bit like Goas.hopefully someone else will weigh in for you! This is hard writing to read! Nancy Jean (P.S. I've looked at your gedcom several timesshould be easy to find with you being 2nd -4th cousin but I can't figure it out yet!) -- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 07:33:30 -0700 From: kamb...@gmail.com javascript: To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name help Hello, I hope someone here could offer some help with the father's last name abbreviation for the marriage. What I read from the marriage is: Pedro de Faria son of Pedro [Joao/Goas] and his wife Maria Pereira. I'm not sure is the last name is an abbreviation or just Joao. The ancestor is Alferes Pedro de Faria (b. ~1729 d. 18-Apr-1784) married to Rita Maria Andrade. I found a Pedro born on 17/19 Jan 1729 son of Pedro Goncalves(z) and Maria de Freitas which falls within his birth range however there is a discrepancy with the parents names. It is possible that the father is Pedro Joao Goncalves and the mother Maria [Pereira de Freitas/de Freitas Pereira]. Pedro's birth, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734_item1/P99.html Pedro and Rita marriage, left page top http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772_item1/P77.html (Alferes) Pedro's death, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785_item1/P185.html Thank you, Manny -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name help
I don't see the discrepancy. Pedro Joao Gonsalves could also use Faria alternately with Gonsalves, or the name may have come from his wife, Maria Pereira. Note that the godparent, Joao Pereira da Costa may be related to Maria Pereira. If there are no other possible matches, this is likely the person you want. Better still, make your search easy and look for the marriage of the parents of Pedro Joao and Maria Pereira.and Manuel de Andrade Miranda and Maria Roiz. It could save you a lot of work and reveal which family uses the Faria name. JR On Sunday, April 27, 2014 6:12:07 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: It's Joao. See the accent above Joao in the marriage record. That's the way the priest did his accents. It is identical the Roiz for Rodrigues. And note that J is identical to the J in Jose, in the record below. There is an name Goas or Gois or Goias, etc, but this looks like Joao, Very clear. JR On Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:53:00 PM UTC-4, nancy jean baptiste wrote: Hi Manny, It sure looks like Joao to me but you're right that it looks a bit like Goas.hopefully someone else will weigh in for you! This is hard writing to read! Nancy Jean (P.S. I've looked at your gedcom several timesshould be easy to find with you being 2nd -4th cousin but I can't figure it out yet!) -- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 07:33:30 -0700 From: kamb...@gmail.com To: azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name help Hello, I hope someone here could offer some help with the father's last name abbreviation for the marriage. What I read from the marriage is: Pedro de Faria son of Pedro [Joao/Goas] and his wife Maria Pereira. I'm not sure is the last name is an abbreviation or just Joao. The ancestor is Alferes Pedro de Faria (b. ~1729 d. 18-Apr-1784) married to Rita Maria Andrade. I found a Pedro born on 17/19 Jan 1729 son of Pedro Goncalves(z) and Maria de Freitas which falls within his birth range however there is a discrepancy with the parents names. It is possible that the father is Pedro Joao Goncalves and the mother Maria [Pereira de Freitas/de Freitas Pereira]. Pedro's birth, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734_item1/P99.html Pedro and Rita marriage, left page top http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772_item1/P77.html (Alferes) Pedro's death, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785_item1/P185.html Thank you, Manny -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name help
I don't see the discrepancy. Pedro Joao Gonsalves could also use Faria alternately with Gonsalves, or the name may have come from his wife, Maria Pereira. Note that the godparent, Joao Pereira da Costa may be related to Maria Pereira. If there are no other possible matches, this is likely the person you want. The same holds for Maria Pereira vs Maria de Freitas. Better still, make your search easy and look for the marriage of the parents of Pedro Joao and Maria Pereira.and Manuel de Andrade Miranda and Maria Roiz. It could save you a lot of work and reveal which family uses the Faria name. JR On Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:53:00 PM UTC-4, nancy jean baptiste wrote: Hi Manny, It sure looks like Joao to me but you're right that it looks a bit like Goas.hopefully someone else will weigh in for you! This is hard writing to read! Nancy Jean (P.S. I've looked at your gedcom several timesshould be easy to find with you being 2nd -4th cousin but I can't figure it out yet!) -- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 07:33:30 -0700 From: kamb...@gmail.com javascript: To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name help Hello, I hope someone here could offer some help with the father's last name abbreviation for the marriage. What I read from the marriage is: Pedro de Faria son of Pedro [Joao/Goas] and his wife Maria Pereira. I'm not sure is the last name is an abbreviation or just Joao. The ancestor is Alferes Pedro de Faria (b. ~1729 d. 18-Apr-1784) married to Rita Maria Andrade. I found a Pedro born on 17/19 Jan 1729 son of Pedro Goncalves(z) and Maria de Freitas which falls within his birth range however there is a discrepancy with the parents names. It is possible that the father is Pedro Joao Goncalves and the mother Maria [Pereira de Freitas/de Freitas Pereira]. Pedro's birth, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734_item1/P99.html Pedro and Rita marriage, left page top http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772_item1/P77.html (Alferes) Pedro's death, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785_item1/P185.html Thank you, Manny -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Bride's Mother's name
Are you sure that you want the bride's mother's name, its the groom's mother's name that is obscured? Anyway, the bride's mother's name is [Briolanja] Franca. The words after her name don't refer to her at all. They merely state the names of the witnesses to the marriage. On Sunday, April 27, 2014 2:30:34 PM UTC-4, fred_star wrote: I am having trouble figuring out Maria Gaspar's mother's first name. The last name is Franca but first name is hard to determine. Also what do the words after the mother's name mean? The record is the middle one on the page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683_item1/P8.htmlhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fculturacores.azores.gov.pt%2Fbiblioteca_digital%2FSMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683%2FSMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683_item1%2FP8.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNEzYvTk0WFklbdoKGg0VMIw54a1rQ Any help is appreciated. Fred -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Translation
I am having trouble translating the parents for Manuel de Avila's marriage records to Maria Ascencao. I think the father may be Laurenco Viveiros? and I cannot make out the mothers name. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P41.html Thank you for your help. Sheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Translation
I see Laurenco Vieira and Isabel Cardoza On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 1:19 PM, smartell...@gmail.com wrote: I am having trouble translating the parents for Manuel de Avila's marriage records to Maria Ascencao. I think the father may be Laurenco Viveiros? and I cannot make out the mothers name. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P41.html Thank you for your help. Sheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Translation
Pam has it right, it's Vieyra (Vieira). When reading blow it up as much as possible and note there is no de preface in front of Vieyra. The Cardozo's are from NS da Piedade, Ilha de Pico. So it is May 30, 1762, in Faial da Terra, NS da Graca, Manoel de Avila filho de Lourenco Vieyra e Izabel Cardoza nats de NS da Piedade, ilha de Pico where he was baptised, com Maria da Ascencao filha de Manoel de Oliveyra e Maria Fagundes nats of NS da Graca, (FDT) where she was baptised. JR On Sunday, April 27, 2014 6:39:51 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote: I see Laurenco Vieira and Isabel Cardoza On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 1:19 PM, smart...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I am having trouble translating the parents for Manuel de Avila's marriage records to Maria Ascencao. I think the father may be Laurenco Viveiros? and I cannot make out the mothers name. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P41.html Thank you for your help. Sheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Bride's Mother's name
Thanks, Dano and Hermano. I was looking for the bride's mother's name because I had never seen that name before. The other name is obscured but I'm pretty sure it's Maria. Fred On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that you want the bride's mother's name, its the groom's mother's name that is obscured? Anyway, the bride's mother's name is [Briolanja] Franca. The words after her name don't refer to her at all. They merely state the names of the witnesses to the marriage. On Sunday, April 27, 2014 2:30:34 PM UTC-4, fred_star wrote: I am having trouble figuring out Maria Gaspar's mother's first name. The last name is Franca but first name is hard to determine. Also what do the words after the mother's name mean? The record is the middle one on the page: http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683/SMG-LG- ROSARIO-C-1594-1683_item1/P8.htmlhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fculturacores.azores.gov.pt%2Fbiblioteca_digital%2FSMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683%2FSMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1594-1683_item1%2FP8.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNEzYvTk0WFklbdoKGg0VMIw54a1rQ Any help is appreciated. Fred -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Translation
Sheri,Did you get the DNA test yet called Family Finder?I think we might show as related if these are your ancestors from Piedade, Pico.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Translation From: JR jmro...@gmail.com Date: Sun, April 27, 2014 4:06 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Pam has it right, it's Vieyra (Vieira). When reading blow it up as much as possible and note there is no de preface in front of Vieyra. The Cardozo's are from NS da Piedade, Ilha de Pico. So it is May 30, 1762, in Faial da Terra, NS da Graca, Manoel de Avila filho de Lourenco Vieyra e Izabel Cardoza nats de NS da Piedade, ilha de Pico where he was baptised, com Maria da Ascencao filha de Manoel de Oliveyra e Maria Fagundes nats of NS da Graca, (FDT) where she was baptised.JROn Sunday, April 27, 2014 6:39:51 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:I see Laurenco Vieira and Isabel CardozaOn Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 1:19 PM, smart...@gmail.com wrote: I am having trouble translating the parents for Manuel de Avila's marriage records to Maria Ascencao. I think the father may be Laurenco Viveiros? and I cannot make out the mothers name. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P41.html Thank you for your help.Sheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Obito
I am wondering if anyone can see the age of the deceased in this record for Manoel Botelho. Left page, top entry http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-O-1714-1 730/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-O-1714-1730_item1/P11.html Thanks, Erica Botelho -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
