RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please
Hermano, Thank you very much for helping. My apologies for taking so long to thank you though. I got pulled away from my research unexpectedly. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 7:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please Jacki, below a quick stab at it No primeiro de octubro de mil oitocentos e nove faleceo da vida presente com todos os Divinos Sacramentos sem testamento de setenta e quatro anos pouco mais ou menos Felicia Roza viuva de Thome de Medeiros desta Paroquial de Nossa Senhora dos Anjos seu corpo envolto em habito de picote veio no dia dous de dito me, e ano de casa acompanhada do Colegio da mesma Freguesia para a sua dita Igreja Paroquial deste lugar da Faja onde com assistencia do dito Colegio e tres Religios de Sao Francisco da Cidade se lhe fez neste dia Interro e ofício de nove Licoens de corpo presente por ordem de seus filhos Jose Fernandes, Antonio, e mais herdeiros que deram para a fabrica quatro centos seis, e as missas que conveterem do ? Priortado ?. Para constar fiz e asinei dia mes e Era Supra _ From: ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:12:54 -0800 Hi Everyone, If someone could please help me read/translate the attached obit, I would be very grateful. I am trying hard to learn to read the words and understand them but without help, it's becoming daunting. If someone has the time to correct and/or fill in the missing Portuguese words below it would be very helpful for me so I can learn to read these records better and not have to ask for so much help. However, I will be grateful for whatever level of help I can get. Below, is first, the best I can do with what it actually says and second, what I think it poorly translates to. The last part is where it gets really bad. 1. no primeiro de octubro de mil oitocentos e nove falecida da vida presente com todos os divino sacramento sem testamento de setenta e quatro anos prévio maio __ ___ Felicia Roza viuva de Thome de Medeiros de esta paroquial de nossa senhora dos anjos sem corpo em volta em habito de ___ veio no dia dou de óbito __, e ___ de casa acompanhante do colegio da __ __ freguesia para a sua dita igreja paroquial deste lugar da faja onde com ___ de óbito colegio e tres religiosa __ Francisco da cidade de __ nesta dia Interno e ofício de nove __ de corpo presente por ordem __ por Jose Fernandes, Antonio, e maio ___ _ para a fabrica quatrocentos Seis, e as ___ _ que do __ __. Para com estas __ e a __ dia mes e __ 2. on October 1 of one thousand eight hundred and nine deceased this life with all the divine sacraments without a will. seventy-four years the previous May _ Felicia Roza widow of Thome de Medeiros of this parish of Our Lady of Angels with no shroud around the body ___ to come on the day of death give __, ___ and was accompanied by the college of her said parish to parish church of this place where faja with ___ death college and three religious __ Francisco city this __ day and Internal nine letter __ body __ this order by Jose Fernandes, Antonio, and May to four Six manufactures, and to of . For those with __ and __ day __ month and Thank you in advance Jacki -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please
Thank you Dano -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dano Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 6:50 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please The last line refers to the donations provided for the services... -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Please - Notation by priest
Thank you Rick. Very helpful to know. Jacki From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 5:27 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Please - Notation by priest It is a common notation, a certificate of the record was provided 16 Feb 1841. The certificate could have been needed for a number of legal reasons. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Please - Notation by priest
Hi Everyone, Can someone please help with this notation? It was in the margin of Felica Rosa's marriage record from 2 Jul 1802. Is this maybe a notation that she died in February 1841? I would appreciate any insight that someone can give. Obrigado, Jacki -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.image001.png
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA site
Hi Pam, I can't get to it either right now. Jacki From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 5:17 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA site Is anyone else having problems access it? If so they must be adding records. Pam -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] who's baby
A little late on this thread, but I have the same problem at St Mary's in Oakland. My GG Grandfather (Luis Fernandes) is buried in an unmarked grave (in the regular section, not the poor) and with him are two children both named Manuel. One was 6 months old and the other 7 years old. I am pretty certain that the 6 month old was my great grandparent's (Manuel Fernandes Maria Perreira) first child. However, the 7 year old is a mystery. My GG Grandmother would have been too old to be the mother and my G Grandmother would have had to have had him when she was 15 or 16 and not married. Technically possible, but not likely. That story would have made the family grape vine for sure. So, it could be a neighbors child or a friends child. Who knows? There was nothing in the burial records that gave any hint and my search for his birth record came up empty using the family's last name. Jacki From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Huffman Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 11:28 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] who's baby Another perspective on the plots/graves...My 1st husband died at 25. We had a 3 year old and I was pregnant with our 2nd. I had every intention of being buried with him when the time came. 20 years laterI was remarried and had another child. My 1st husband's family asked me if they could use the plot/grave because his aunt had died and they didn't have the money to bury her in the nicer section. I was torn as to what to do. Being a good catholic the guilt of any decision was eating me. I gave the family the plot. Still makes me feel funny all these years later. His aunt is buried with him but it still causes my heart sadness. Don't look at it as what the heck were they thinking because some things are done with a heavy heart. Unless you are there in the circumstances, you just don't know. Karen :) On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 10:59 AM, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote: During the years I extracted the information from books (14 of them) for the first Catholic cemetery in Hayward, I ran into a lot of things that did not make sense to me. One was that in some cases families were able to purchase a plot with one to several graves. I have seen copies of the deed to the plots and the graves are listed. That was in one set of books. Another set of books was the plot books. I think there were 4 of these books. The plots were listed in the order they were sold and the people buried in the plots were listed as to the grave number or in the SW corner, etc. of the plot. The cemetery was begun in 1875 (I believe) and still continues to have burials; however, not very many of them. The reason I am trying to explaine the possible burial sites of those enterred in this cemetery is very different due to several factors. Each priest that was at All Saint may have different ideas as to who could and who could not be buried in a purchased plot. While I was working for 4 years on this extraction, I met many people who were looking for their families and they shared their oral history with me about the burial of their families. In several cases, the names of those buried in a plot did not match the person who had purchased the plot. I was told that it was a neighbor who died and could not afford to purchase a grave. There were also graves purchased by Portuguese Fraternal Societies to bury their members that did not have the means to purchase a grave. There were a large number of infants buried in 1918 (I suspect it was the flu epidemic) and in the cases where addresses were given for the deceased, whole neighborhoods lost many children and elderly people. Again, several were buried in places where the names of the owner of the plot was different from those being buried. I am sharing some possible reasons that the plot you think will contain your ancestor may or may not have others with different names buried with them. The oral histories shared with me told of many reasons; some were godchildren; some were neighbors; some said the priest asked the family to bury the person and my personal account of an uncle who died at the age of 3 months and was buried with the lady who was being buried that day. This oral history was from my grandmother (the baby's mother) and she told me several times that because she did not have the $5.00 in 1917, he was buried with this person she did not even know! She never forgot that her son was with a stranger and that it was the priest's fault. An interesting point for this burial is that they were buried in what was called the poor ground for those who could not affort to pay for a grave. In my grandmother's opinion, her son did not get the chance to have his own grave. When I run into something like a person being buried with people I don't recognize, I try to look at it in other ways and not only that the person is a relative. Celeste,
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] introduction myself to the group
Welcome Ricardo! I am currently researching my roots from Sao Miguel. Which is my Fernandes and Furtado line. I am only to my 4th great grandparents. They were from Fajã de Cima and Fajã de Baixo. It's taken me 6 years to get that far. First I am only able to research part time like you and second because my great grandfather was killed when my grandmother was 2 and she only knew his name and her grandmother's first name and married name from her second marriage. Also, my grandmother died before I started my research so I only have my mother and aunt to try and remember bits of information. My mother is nearly eighty and my aunt is 84 so their information is not always that reliable or helpful. It's nice to know that we have someone in the group who has lived in Sao Miguel. (Of course there could be others that I don't know of too) Who knows, maybe our lines will end up crossing somewhere. The world is awfully small sometimes. Anyway, it's good to have you in the group. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Furtado Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rchaves Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:17 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] introduction myself to the group Hello researchers, I would like to say hi to all here, my name is Ricardo Chaves, I still have a lot of work to do but already done some research with baptism books and after many hours of work, I got my first results. I am at my 6th generation on my father's side. Chaves. I was born in Santa Maria, I live in Sao Miguel for 17 years. I don't do Genealogy as a full time job, I do it at free time. My main goal is to write a book for my family. I try to research all names I can, including my wife's side too. I also love to work with old pictures. I sincerely hope to find some connections here, although I believe no one in my most direct family is doing this, as far as I know, I am the only one that had made some longer steps. These are the names on my father side: Chaves and Carvalho from Santo Espirito-Santa Maria, Tavares and Resendes from Ribeira Grande-Sao Miguel), Rocha from Santo Antonio - São Miguel), and more. These are the names on me mother side: Ponte from Lomba do Botao - Povoacao - Sao Miguel, Freitas from Santa Barbara - Santa Maria, Cabral from Sao Pedro - Santa Maria, and much more. I have been doing it for over 4 years but very slowly, this to say that I am not an expert but have learned a lot by reading and talking with people. I hope I can be of any help here and hope mostly to learn and find roots. Thank you all for reading, more here www.rchaves.com/blog Ricardo Chaves -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial
I haven't forgotten you Donna. Or anyone else in the Furtado/Dutra connection. I just haven't had time yet to look up all my info. I've been working 70+ hrs a week and am only able to grab 5 or 10 minutes here and there. Like now. It's 1:10AM, and I have to get up at 5:30. I promise I will get it all together in the next couple of days. Jacki From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dwood...@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:15 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial Pat, Good to hear from you again, cousin. Yes, I sent Emil the updated info I had on my Furtado/Dutra family awhile ago. He is so great to help everyone with looking up their lost connections. I am so grateful to you and Emil for all the help you have given me in connecting the missing links. He has so much info. I had responsed to this thread earlier, thinking it was Jacki G. who sent the post out, but never heard back from Jacki. MaryAnn feel free to contact me directly also, as I have ongoing info on Rose Woodson and her family, she is my 3rd cousin, twice removed. I actually work for her granddaughter here in Jamestown, Rhode Island. The Jose Furtado Dutra 4-25-1899 is my third cousin, twice removed, so it appears we are related also. I'd love to share info with you. In case you don't have it - I posted the following on 7/16: Upon searching your list I find that the Manuel Furtado born 11/5/1697, married on 02/25/1715 and died on 10/29/1730 is my 7th great grandfather. I have many of the other names on my tree but don't have dates associated with them. Maybe we (and others who are related) could connect directly to share info and update the group. My email is dwood...@aol.com. I have been searching for my California relatives for awhile but can't seem to locate them as I'm not sure what town they settled in. They are Frank Furtado born about 1897, Manuel Furtado born about 1926 and Joseph Furtado born about 1897 in Cedros. They are the children of Francisco Furtado (1870) and Maria da Conceicao Rosario (1878). I posted the following as a response on 7/16 Yes, my grandfather was Manuel Furtado Dutra 12/25/1903, his father Francisco Furtado Dutra 4/21/1870, his father Antonio Furtado Dutra Valim 11/12/1836, his father Joao Furtado Dutra 02/16/1796, his father Antonio Furtado Dutra 1/3/1756, his father Joao Furtado Dutra (who married Catarina Maria Furtado born 2/4/1725) and his father was Joao Furtado also. I actually have Furtado relatives on both sides of my grandparents tree. There are also Rose and Garcia's in my tree. Donna Dutra Wood -Original Message- From: Patricia Butcher pereir...@cox.net To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:33 pm Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial Emil Donna, Wow, more cousins more missing links to our Furtado Dutra line from Faial. Donna I grew up with these families in Jamestown, RI. I was aware that some had gone on to California. Emil, you have everything current in your files. I am still plugging along slowly entering Donna's information to my PAF. Thanks for your continued research additions to our numerous cousin lines. And Donna, thank you for pursuing the Jamestown family lines that connect us. So glad you have the passion to do this. Pat At 10:27 AM 7/18/2011, you wrote: Emil, The Jose Furtado Dutra born April 25, 1899 was my uncle by marriage. He came to the US in 1920 and married my aunt, Mary Elizabeth Lewis (Luis). They had no children, but my widowed mother and I lived with them. They also helped raise some other children as well. His sister Rose also came to the US, not sure when. She lived near New Port, RI and in her later years wintered in Florida where here daughters and son live. Rose married a man named Woodson. My uncle's other brother Antonio came to the US in the 60's as an older man to be with his daughters. His daughter Rose had come to the US in the 50's with her husband, Antonio Souza and two sons and they lived in California near us. His daughter Maria came when he did and she never married. Antonio came first to the East and then came to California. Another brother, Joao was a half brother. My Uncle Joe sent for Joao's two sons, Manuel and Frank during the time of the volcano in the late 50's. Their sister Maria came to the US later with her husband and two children and eventually Joao and his wife Maria also came to the US and lived here in Ca near us. I am very close to this family and am in contact with them regularly. We consider ourselves related even though we are not blood related. My Uncle Jose Furtado Dutra had two cousins, Jose Garcia and Joao Da Rosa (later americanized to Rose). I have early pictures of them together, but I am not sure if the pictures where taken here or in the Azores. They may have even come to the US together
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial
I too have Furtado's in my line from Faial. Although, mine are further back than the 1800's. Attached, is some basic information. If anyone thinks they have connections to any of these people, please let me know. As far as I know, they are all from Cedros, Faial. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Furtado Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Eadie Kothlow Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:47 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial Frank or JoElayne I have Furtado in my family from Faial...and lots of information - from the sounds of your note, we are talking the same family my cousin, Mary - her mother was a Furtado, lives in California and has done a lot of research on this family Here is a sample of the info I have - 6 of the Furtado's listed in this attachment immigrated to America - either Rhode Island or California - Original Message - From: Frank or JoElayne Johnson mailto:joelay...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial There are quite a few of us from the west coast. Maybe we don't post as often??? In the Bay Area there is a bunch of us! Hopefully, you can connect with a cousin through this group. That has been one of the benefits of this group for me. The other is learning about the unique research skills and resources needed to research the Azores genealogy. So far all of my knowledge of our ancestors has come through cousins researching the same families. Don't forget to check all the neighbors in the census. The immigrants tended to migrate together and settle near each other. Good Luck! JoElayne Ferre' Johnson _ From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:17 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial Repost for Judy G, gaarde at frontier.com I am searching Furtado and George line from Faial, Azores and am very new at this. Is there a active Portuguese club of some sort for the Northwest states as most all posting I read are coming from east coast area and I do not hear Ellis Island or Northwest mentioned much?? If not this is what I know about my grandparents and great grandparents. I believe his birth records there have been destroyed by fire as I read the church in Saoal burned to the ground??? Grandfather: Antonio Rosa Furtado (possibly a Jr.?) born 1892 Island of Faial (maybe little town of Saoal), Azores I read the church ( in Saoal) that his records were in burnt down and they lost a lot of informtion. Immigration - 1910 via Ellis Island (Ellis Island has write up and picture on wall of him) to Turner, Calif. Died 1971 Santa Cruz, Ca. His father possibly named Antonio R Furtado also. His Mother is unknown to me. Antonio has a brother named Joseph (S or R?)Furtado who settled in San Francisco Bay area, California prior to Antonio's arrival. There may be a 2nd brother Manuel Furtado who came over later. Such a common name and nothing to connect it too. 1918 Antonio married Mary Elizabeth George - 1893 to 1986. Their children Dorothy Rose, Edward A, and Geraldine May (my mother) . My Grandmother Mary's parents are - Father - Antone F. George 1863 to 1949 , Immigrated in 1887 from Azores (island ?),. Mother is Mary J Martin 1872 to ? Maybe born here in Bay area.?. Married - 1893 in San Francisco area and settled in Half Moon Bay, California.- their children were: Mary Elizabeth, Joseph F, Rose , Minnia (Minnie), Antone Jr. and Clara. I show Antonio and Mary made a trip to Lisbon in 1952. Both Mary and Antonio are buried in Santa Cruz, California where he had retired. I have hit a wall. I am still searching for distant cousins possibly in bay area??? Judy G Morganti, Furtado, George, Martin- Faial Azores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial
Sorry, didn't attach the file. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jacki G. Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:25 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial I too have Furtado's in my line from Faial. Although, mine are further back than the 1800's. Attached, is some basic information. If anyone thinks they have connections to any of these people, please let me know. As far as I know, they are all from Cedros, Faial. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Furtado Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Eadie Kothlow Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:47 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial Frank or JoElayne I have Furtado in my family from Faial...and lots of information - from the sounds of your note, we are talking the same family my cousin, Mary - her mother was a Furtado, lives in California and has done a lot of research on this family Here is a sample of the info I have - 6 of the Furtado's listed in this attachment immigrated to America - either Rhode Island or California - Original Message - From: Frank or JoElayne Johnson mailto:joelay...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial There are quite a few of us from the west coast. Maybe we don't post as often??? In the Bay Area there is a bunch of us! Hopefully, you can connect with a cousin through this group. That has been one of the benefits of this group for me. The other is learning about the unique research skills and resources needed to research the Azores genealogy. So far all of my knowledge of our ancestors has come through cousins researching the same families. Don't forget to check all the neighbors in the census. The immigrants tended to migrate together and settle near each other. Good Luck! JoElayne Ferre' Johnson _ From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:17 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial Repost for Judy G, gaarde at frontier.com I am searching Furtado and George line from Faial, Azores and am very new at this. Is there a active Portuguese club of some sort for the Northwest states as most all posting I read are coming from east coast area and I do not hear Ellis Island or Northwest mentioned much?? If not this is what I know about my grandparents and great grandparents. I believe his birth records there have been destroyed by fire as I read the church in Saoal burned to the ground??? Grandfather: Antonio Rosa Furtado (possibly a Jr.?) born 1892 Island of Faial (maybe little town of Saoal), Azores I read the church ( in Saoal) that his records were in burnt down and they lost a lot of informtion. Immigration - 1910 via Ellis Island (Ellis Island has write up and picture on wall of him) to Turner, Calif. Died 1971 Santa Cruz, Ca. His father possibly named Antonio R Furtado also. His Mother is unknown to me. Antonio has a brother named Joseph (S or R?)Furtado who settled in San Francisco Bay area, California prior to Antonio's arrival. There may be a 2nd brother Manuel Furtado who came over later. Such a common name and nothing to connect it too. 1918 Antonio married Mary Elizabeth George - 1893 to 1986. Their children Dorothy Rose, Edward A, and Geraldine May (my mother) . My Grandmother Mary's parents are - Father - Antone F. George 1863 to 1949 , Immigrated in 1887 from Azores (island ?),. Mother is Mary J Martin 1872 to ? Maybe born here in Bay area.?. Married - 1893 in San Francisco area and settled in Half Moon Bay, California.- their children were: Mary Elizabeth, Joseph F, Rose , Minnia (Minnie), Antone Jr. and Clara. I show Antonio and Mary made a trip to Lisbon in 1952. Both Mary and Antonio are buried in Santa Cruz, California where he had retired. I have hit a wall. I am still searching for distant cousins possibly in bay area??? Judy G Morganti, Furtado, George, Martin- Faial Azores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Costa family- Solano County, CA
Well, I heard back from my mother's cousin. The woman in this picture is not a relative. It sure is an uncanny resemblance though; and the name Costa too. She said her husband's family arrived in Fall River from Sao Miguel then moved to Southern Cal and then to Berkeley. His father and the children were the only ones that used the name Costa. Jacki From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:08 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Costa family- Solano County, CA Mary, From the California vitals indexes at Vital search death records COSTA MANUEL R 1872 01 05 MALE RE SOLANO 1955 07 24 568483366 82 1503151 COSTA MARION JAMES 1893 07 17 COSTA MALE CA ALAMEDA 1944 08 18 548034008 51 361053 COSTA MANUEL T 1892 01 04 SORSEN COSTA MALE MA NAPA 1940 08 20 48 15420 COSTA ANTONE PIVER 1907 12 05 SOUZA MALE CA ALAMEDA 1995 10 13 565094294 87 8714657 LAVAGNINO MARY R 1909 06 16 SOARES COSTA FEMALE CA SOLANO 1991 08 25 560423497 82 7883104 Costa, Joaquim died Solano Co. 12-14-1910 My interest in this is that I'm trying to identify several photographs sent by a relative in Massachucetts of portraits taken in Benicia and Vallejo from the 1890s to 1910s. They were not labeled and the curennt family has no idea who they were. By looking at censuses, I've felt it could be a Costa family... or a Silva,,, or a Souza.. etc Do you have any photos of this family to compare ? there are eleven photos. Here are two. They were sent to Antone Jacinto Vieira in Taunton , MA. He was from Cedros, Flores Eric Edgar On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Mary MK marymken...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for information on the following family, which lived in Benicia, Solano County for many years: Joaquim Costa, born St. Michael, Azores, about 1825 Manuel Rita Costa, born St. Michael, Azores about 1872 Mary Soares Costa, born St. Michael, Azores, about 1873 Manuel (Tom) Costa, born Fall River, Mass., 1892 Marion James Costa, born Port Costa, CA, 1893 Antone River Costa, born Calif, 1907 (wife Emma) Mary R Costa Lavagnino, born Calif, 1909 + and several other children I appreciate any insights as to how to check for these relatives, beyond the census records. Does anyone know if there are local registries or city directories for Solano county or for Portuguese societies that might have more information? Thank you! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] medeiros + Miranda + tavares
John, I don’t have much information about the Mirandas. Like I said, he was my great grandmother’s second husband. The info I have is from their headstone, cemetery records and census’. His first wife’s name was Maria 1856 – 1908. He’s buried with both of his wives. The second wife is Roza Pacheco Fernandes Miranda (my great grandmother) 1857 – 1938. Miranda was not my great grandfather. Her first husband, Luis Fernandes was. Manuel Miranda and Roza raised her granddaughter Rose and when Rose was about eighteen she was married to his youngest son Frank. Jacki From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Raposo Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 4:43 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] medeiros + Miranda + tavares That would almost cetainly be Manuel Viveiros Miranda, of the Viveiros Mirandas of Bretanha, S. Miguel. I can narrow it down for you iof you provide me with the names of his wives. Ihave many Manuel Viveirs Mirandas in my file. Dates and places would be helpful. John From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] medeiros + Miranda + tavares I doubt this will be much help, but here it is just in case since you don’t see the name Miranda very often. I have a Manuel V. Miranda 1847 – 1923 who was my great grandmother’s second husband. I know he was born in the Azores. I’m pretty sure it was Sao Miguel but I don’t have any documents to prove the island. He had two sons that I know of. Antone Miranda 1879 – 1942 born in the Azores and Frank P. Miranda 1891 – 1931 born in the US who married my grandmother’s sister. (Yep, he married his step-niece who was 20 years younger. Yuk!) They lived in the San Jose Calif. area and are buried at Calvery Cemetery in San Jose, CA. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Huffman Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] medeiros + Miranda + tavares I would love to see more of this. My grandfather was born in Sao Miguel. Evaristo Rodrigues Medeiros. His father was Antonio R R Medeiros. His wife was Emilia Cabral. They had 8 children including my grandfather. Need to find a connection someday somewhere. Karen On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Gabriela gabriela.br...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, my grandparents, both are from ilha de sao miguel, the details are: my Grandmother: Maria da Gloria medeiros from: ponta delgada her parents are: Jorge Augusto Medeiros and Maria jose de freitas medeiros My Grandfather: Manuel de Medeiros Miranda From: Azores but I dont know the conselho/frequesia His Parents: Jose Pedro de Medeiros Tavares and Maria Izabel Medeiros Miranda is it sounds familiar for somebody? Please I'm trying to find out about the right place that my grandfather borned, it's really important to me, if it sounds familiar for somebody please, contact me at: agabizinh...@hotmail.com Thank you! =) I also read this message attached, I saw medeiros and tavares, maybe there are some conections between us: KarlushkoVer perfil Traduzir para Português (Brasil)Traduzido (ver original) Mais opções 15 set 2010, 02:57 De: Karlushko bremen...@yahoo.com.br Data: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Local: Qua 15 set 2010 02:57 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros in Sao Miguel Imprimir | Mensagem individual | Mostrar original | Denunciar esta mensagem | Localizar mensagens deste autor I have Lourenco de Medeiros, from Sao Jose, Ilha de Sao Miguel married in 8Aug1705 to Francisca Tavares, son of Joao de Medeiros and Maria de Sao Pedro Francisca, daughter of Francisco Congalves and Isabel de Mello -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- Hugs and Blessings from Karen (Medeiros) Huffman in Paso Robles, CA USA Searching for Medeiros and Cabral in Sao Miguel, Santos, Silva and Costa in Terceira Acores. Searching for Anderson and Swanson in Sweden and Schaeffer and Schommer in Germany. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Costa family- Solano County, CA
Eric, I sent those pictures to my mother's first cousin to look at. Her cousin is married to a man named Al Costa and that woman looks like she could be his mother maybe. Al is in his mid-eighties and looks just like her. Al and Bettie live in Sebastapol, which is in Sonoma County. Who knows, they may be related. My mother's cousin (who I have always called Aunt Bettie) is usually pretty good about checking email. If I don't hear from her soon though, I will give her a call. Even though they are in their mid-eighties, they don't let the grass grow under their feet. ;0) They travel a lot. I will let you know what I find out. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:08 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Costa family- Solano County, CA Mary, From the California vitals indexes at Vital search death records COSTA MANUEL R 1872 01 05 MALE RE SOLANO 1955 07 24 568483366 82 1503151 COSTA MARION JAMES 1893 07 17 COSTA MALE CA ALAMEDA 1944 08 18 548034008 51 361053 COSTA MANUEL T 1892 01 04 SORSEN COSTA MALE MA NAPA 1940 08 20 48 15420 COSTA ANTONE PIVER 1907 12 05 SOUZA MALE CA ALAMEDA 1995 10 13 565094294 87 8714657 LAVAGNINO MARY R 1909 06 16 SOARES COSTA FEMALE CA SOLANO 1991 08 25 560423497 82 7883104 Costa, Joaquim died Solano Co. 12-14-1910 My interest in this is that I'm trying to identify several photographs sent by a relative in Massachucetts of portraits taken in Benicia and Vallejo from the 1890s to 1910s. They were not labeled and the curennt family has no idea who they were. By looking at censuses, I've felt it could be a Costa family... or a Silva,,, or a Souza.. etc Do you have any photos of this family to compare ? there are eleven photos. Here are two. They were sent to Antone Jacinto Vieira in Taunton , MA. He was from Cedros, Flores Eric Edgar On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Mary MK marymken...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for information on the following family, which lived in Benicia, Solano County for many years: Joaquim Costa, born St. Michael, Azores, about 1825 Manuel Rita Costa, born St. Michael, Azores about 1872 Mary Soares Costa, born St. Michael, Azores, about 1873 Manuel (Tom) Costa, born Fall River, Mass., 1892 Marion James Costa, born Port Costa, CA, 1893 Antone River Costa, born Calif, 1907 (wife Emma) Mary R Costa Lavagnino, born Calif, 1909 + and several other children I appreciate any insights as to how to check for these relatives, beyond the census records. Does anyone know if there are local registries or city directories for Solano county or for Portuguese societies that might have more information? Thank you! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] medeiros + Miranda + tavares
I doubt this will be much help, but here it is just in case since you don’t see the name Miranda very often. I have a Manuel V. Miranda 1847 – 1923 who was my great grandmother’s second husband. I know he was born in the Azores. I’m pretty sure it was Sao Miguel but I don’t have any documents to prove the island. He had two sons that I know of. Antone Miranda 1879 – 1942 born in the Azores and Frank P. Miranda 1891 – 1931 born in the US who married my grandmother’s sister. (Yep, he married his step-niece who was 20 years younger. Yuk!) They lived in the San Jose Calif. area and are buried at Calvery Cemetery in San Jose, CA. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Huffman Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] medeiros + Miranda + tavares I would love to see more of this. My grandfather was born in Sao Miguel. Evaristo Rodrigues Medeiros. His father was Antonio R R Medeiros. His wife was Emilia Cabral. They had 8 children including my grandfather. Need to find a connection someday somewhere. Karen On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Gabriela gabriela.br...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, my grandparents, both are from ilha de sao miguel, the details are: my Grandmother: Maria da Gloria medeiros from: ponta delgada her parents are: Jorge Augusto Medeiros and Maria jose de freitas medeiros My Grandfather: Manuel de Medeiros Miranda From: Azores but I dont know the conselho/frequesia His Parents: Jose Pedro de Medeiros Tavares and Maria Izabel Medeiros Miranda is it sounds familiar for somebody? Please I'm trying to find out about the right place that my grandfather borned, it's really important to me, if it sounds familiar for somebody please, contact me at: agabizinh...@hotmail.com Thank you! =) I also read this message attached, I saw medeiros and tavares, maybe there are some conections between us: KarlushkoVer perfil Traduzir para Português (Brasil)Traduzido (ver original) Mais opções 15 set 2010, 02:57 De: Karlushko bremen...@yahoo.com.br Data: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Local: Qua 15 set 2010 02:57 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros in Sao Miguel Imprimir | Mensagem individual | Mostrar original | Denunciar esta mensagem | Localizar mensagens deste autor I have Lourenco de Medeiros, from Sao Jose, Ilha de Sao Miguel married in 8Aug1705 to Francisca Tavares, son of Joao de Medeiros and Maria de Sao Pedro Francisca, daughter of Francisco Congalves and Isabel de Mello -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- Hugs and Blessings from Karen (Medeiros) Huffman in Paso Robles, CA USA Searching for Medeiros and Cabral in Sao Miguel, Santos, Silva and Costa in Terceira Acores. Searching for Anderson and Swanson in Sweden and Schaeffer and Schommer in Germany. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help needed! Please
I’m with you Rick. That made me laugh out loud. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 6:50 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help needed! Please That last three lines done by the translator program is a riot. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Vicente Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:03 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help needed! Please Hi In his residence (home), in the Conde Street, passed away, this morning Mrs. D. Maria Carolina Horta Pacheco, lady of worthy virtues. The deceased was the loving mother of the illustrious Elementary School teacher, Mr. Francisco Pacheco Horta, and of Messrs. Antonio, Antero and Oscar Pacheco Horta, absent. Her funeral will be tomorrow at 8 o'clock in the morning with the hearse being conducted by Berlinda* * Berlinda is a small light weight waggon/coach with 4 wheels. Margaret On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 12:30 PM, carab...@aol.com wrote: When I used the translator in Google.com I got a translation that I really don't understand. I was wondering if someone that knows the language could help me out with what this really says. I also listed the translated paragraph below it. Na casa de-sua residência, á rua do Conde, deixoinle .existir esta manhã a sra. D. Maria Carolina Horta Pacheco, senhora de esmeradas virtudes. A extnta era mãe extremosa* e estremecidissima do ilustre professor de Ensino Normal, sr. Francisco Pacheco Horta e dos srs. António, Antero e Oscar Pacheco Horta, ausentes. O seu funeral realisa-se amanhã pelas 8 horas da manhã, sendo o féretro conduzido em berlinda. -- Portuguese to English translation In-house residence, the street Conde, deixoinle. there this morning Mrs.. D. Maria Carolina Horta Pacheco, neat lady of virtues. The mother was extremely * extnta and estremecidissima the distinguished professor Teaching Normal, sr. Francisco Pacheco Horta and srs. Anthony, Antero and Oscar Pacheco Horta, absent. His funeral was realized tomorrow by 8 am, with the coffin conducted in the hot seat. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- Margaret M Vicente -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial
Judy, You can try searching the NEPS website http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/açores.html . You’re probably not going to find him there because of the 100 year mark. (They don’t list information about people until it’s been over 100 years because of privacy) However, when you identify his parents, you will probably find them there. They show a village called http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/salão.html Salão. I don’t know if that’s the same village you mentioned or not though. If you have any questions about how to navigate the site, you just have to ask for help. Myself and I’m sure everyone else in the group will be happy to help you. I am in the SF Bay Area in California and I do have the Furtado name from Faial in my line. In fact, I have an Antonio Furtado who was one of 8 children born to Manuel Furtado (1637-1698) My grandfather’s family is from Cedros though. I don’t know how far apart Cedros and your village are, but it’s possible that there is a connection. My grandfather and his parents arrived in the US via Boston on Aug 6, 1906 and then traveled by train to Martinez, CA in Contra Costa County. There are lots of us in the group located on the West Coast and several of us are in the SF Bay Area. If there’s anything I can do to help you, you can send an email to me privately. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Main Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:18 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial Repost for Judy G, gaarde at frontier.com I am searching Furtado and George line from Faial, Azores and am very new at this. Is there a active Portuguese club of some sort for the Northwest states as most all posting I read are coming from east coast area and I do not hear Ellis Island or Northwest mentioned much?? If not this is what I know about my grandparents and great grandparents. I believe his birth records there have been destroyed by fire as I read the church in Saoal burned to the ground??? Grandfather: Antonio Rosa Furtado (possibly a Jr.?) born 1892 Island of Faial (maybe little town of Saoal), Azores I read the church ( in Saoal) that his records were in burnt down and they lost a lot of informtion. Immigration - 1910 via Ellis Island (Ellis Island has write up and picture on wall of him) to Turner, Calif. Died 1971 Santa Cruz, Ca. His father possibly named Antonio R Furtado also. His Mother is unknown to me. Antonio has a brother named Joseph (S or R?)Furtado who settled in San Francisco Bay area, California prior to Antonio's arrival. There may be a 2nd brother Manuel Furtado who came over later. Such a common name and nothing to connect it too. 1918 Antonio married Mary Elizabeth George - 1893 to 1986. Their children Dorothy Rose, Edward A, and Geraldine May (my mother) . My Grandmother Mary's parents are - Father - Antone F. George 1863 to 1949 , Immigrated in 1887 from Azores (island ?),. Mother is Mary J Martin 1872 to ? Maybe born here in Bay area.?. Married - 1893 in San Francisco area and settled in Half Moon Bay, California.- their children were: Mary Elizabeth, Joseph F, Rose , Minnia (Minnie), Antone Jr. and Clara. I show Antonio and Mary made a trip to Lisbon in 1952. Both Mary and Antonio are buried in Santa Cruz, California where he had retired. I have hit a wall. I am still searching for distant cousins possibly in bay area??? Judy G Morganti, Furtado, George, Martin- Faial Azores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Elk Grove and Escalon in California this weekend (April 2 - 3)
I second that thought Lionel. HAPPY BIRTHDAY The next time my mother tells me she's too old for this stuff, I'm showing her this email. She's not even old yet. She's only 76. Here's to more birthdays yet to come. Bless you Jacki From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pat Thornberg Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:54 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Elk Grove and Escalon in California this weekend (April 2 - 3) Belated Birthday Wishes to you!! 92 WOW andhow wonderful that you are computer sauvy and involved in genealogy. What in inspiriation to the rest of us kids. Hope you have many more 'anniversaries of the day you blessed humanity with your presence'. God Bless. Pat --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Lionel Holmes lionelholme...@gmail.com wrote: From: Lionel Holmes lionelholme...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Elk Grove and Escalon in California this weekend (April 2 - 3) To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 12:49 AM Cheri, Never mind. I forgot that Saturday is my 92nd birthday, and I have family coming over, so I won't be able to go there. Would have loved to meet you. Lionel On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com http://us.mc633.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Lionel, Is there a place where they run the bulls? I'll ask the band director for specifics and post them. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com http://us.mc633.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Azores%2Bunsubscribe@googlegro ups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Elk Grove and Escalon in California this weekend (April 2 - 3)
Lionel, I wouldn't bet against it. ;) All things are possible when the mind is willing. I would love to meet you sometime and take you to lunch and talk about genealogy. I don't think we live very far from each other. You can send me an email at: jacki at cdmmarketing dot com if you have the time and would like to get together. (There will be no bad feelings if you can't or would rather not though.) Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lionel Holmes Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:25 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Elk Grove and Escalon in California this weekend (April 2 - 3) Thank you, Jacki. I'm shooting for 93. Doubt that I'll pass my mother's record. She was 101 -- a Silveira from Pico. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: I second that thought Lionel. HAPPY BIRTHDAY The next time my mother tells me she's too old for this stuff, I'm showing her this email. She's not even old yet. She's only 76. Here's to more birthdays yet to come. Bless you Jacki From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pat Thornberg Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:54 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Elk Grove and Escalon in California this weekend (April 2 - 3) Belated Birthday Wishes to you!! 92 WOW andhow wonderful that you are computer sauvy and involved in genealogy. What in inspiriation to the rest of us kids. Hope you have many more 'anniversaries of the day you blessed humanity with your presence'. God Bless. Pat --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Lionel Holmes lionelholme...@gmail.com wrote: From: Lionel Holmes lionelholme...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Elk Grove and Escalon in California this weekend (April 2 - 3) To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 12:49 AM Cheri, Never mind. I forgot that Saturday is my 92nd birthday, and I have family coming over, so I won't be able to go there. Would have loved to meet you. Lionel On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com http://us.mc633.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Lionel, Is there a place where they run the bulls? I'll ask the band director for specifics and post them. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com http://us.mc633.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Azores%2Bunsubscribe@googlegro ups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help
Cheri, that's good to know. The director there was the person who actually helped me get started when I was researching my other line from Sao Miguel. His mother is Azorean. I will have to check with him and see if a larger lens is possible. Thanks for the info. That's why I love this group. ;) Jacki From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 7:09 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help Jacki, George Pacheco used to be a FHC director, so he knows more than I do. I thought that patrons to an FHC could request the FHC to get a higher power lens for their readers. I don't know all the rules and regulations about it though and if it's an FHC wide thing or dealt with individually at each FHC. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brickwall Broken!
Eric, That's awesome. I had that same sort of thing happen with my great grandfather. Who, was also killed in Oakland in 1909 when my grandmother was 2. Weird coincidence huh? His name was Fernandes but I found the article in SF Chronicle and he was listed as Fernanz. He was killed in an explosion in a quarry. Just an FYI about the Alameda County recorders office. They will no longer let you look at any death records and they will not make a copy for you while you're there. They will look for the record and either send it or a letter telling you they couldn't find it and then it also still takes weeks to get it. Save your time gas and just file the request online. I work just around the corner from the recorders office and I have gone round and round with more than one person there; including the director. I even took a print out of their website where it says that you can look at the records. Congrats on breaking down the wall Jacki From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Gomes Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:17 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brickwall Broken! I did itI broke down my first serious brickwall today... I have been trying to find where my great-great grandfather, Manuel Rodrigues is buried. He immigrated to Hawaii in the 1880's from the Azores and then the family immigrated from Hawaii in 1906... So... according to family lore, he was killed by a train in Oakland when my grandmother was a child. She has no memory of him or her other grandfather, Manuel Cabral, who was also killed by a train in Oakland in 1925 when she was 3 days old. Well, I finally found him... I have searched the internet, been to the Oakland Family History Center on several occasions, used City Directories, pulled the California Death Index from the Oakland Public Library, looked through numerous micro film rolls of the Oakland Tribune and the Hayward Daily Review at the Oakland Public Library and California State University HAYWARD (I refuse to call it East Bay) to no avail... well, it turns out, the CA death index had him listed as Manuel RodrigueZ I was at Cal State Hayward today and was looking for Manuel Rodriguez in the June 10, 1927 Oakland Tribune... I first found an article of an unidentified elderly man that was struck by a Southern Pacific Electric Train... the type that used to travel across the Oakland Bay Bridge on the first level... that was my first clue... In the June 12, 1927 obituaries, I found him listed. I know it is him because the address matched and the middle initial matched... he is the only Manuel A Rodrigues in several different sources. Pay Dirt... =) I will request the death certificate the next time I am in Oakland... and I plan on traveling to Sacramento on my next day off to see if there are any records at the Railroad Museum. And now for the serendipity... -- Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA Surnames: Gomes, Smith, Townsend, Lopes, Cabral, Erwin, Kennedy, Rodman, Rodrigues, and many more. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help
Thanks Cheri. However, I did. The only large one they have is for the reader that prints the images and you can't stay on that one more than an hour at a time. I would think that they would have more since they are a regional center and they just did a big remodel. Oh well. I'm just glad they have the films. Jacki From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:21 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help Jacki, Ask your FHC if they have a high power lens. I think they are the 42 power ones. We have one 65 reader, but it's almost too large. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help
Thank you JR and Nancy Jean. JR, I didn't see the surnames either. I was just saying that that is who they should be if I did indeed have the correct record. All the baptismal records in that time frame on that film are in a bad way. The bleed through is terrible, the images are small and they're hard to read. After staring through a magnifying glass at them for hours, I wasn't sure if I was seeing what was there or what I hoped was there. And, besides that, I am just a beginner at learning to read Portuguese. Thank you again Jacki -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JR Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:39 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help Jose Francisco e sua mullher Marianna Bernarda, pat- of Vicente Jose e sua mulher Maria Silveira e mat- of Jose Francisco e sua mulher Catharina Ignacia, born Aug 10, 1829, bap- Aug 14 of same month. Padrinhos- Antonio Rosa e sua mulher (possibly) Maria Elena? There does not appear to be any surnames listed for some on this record, but this was common. Perhaps you know their whole names and have added the Medeiros part. JR On Mar 31, 1:59 am, Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: Can someone look at this and tell me if I have the right record? It should be the baptismal record for Antonio Francisco de Medeiros born 10 Aug 1829 and baptized on 13 Aug 1829. His parents were Jose Francisco de Medeiros and Marianna Benarda. His grandparents were Vincente Jose de Medeiros and Maria Silveira and Jose Francisco Alcaide and Catarina Inacia. He was born in Cedros on the island of Faial. I think I am reading the names and dates correctly but I am not very good at it yet. Any and all translation will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Jacki Medeiros-Antonio Medeiros baptism 1829.jpg 824KViewDownload -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport translation help, please
I have to say that this thread has given me some good giggles... Anyway though, I just got off the phone with the California DMV. Driver's licenses weren't required until 1913 and verbal and aduio tests can be given as well as having an interpreter. Reading is not a required skill. You just have to know the laws and obey them and be able to manuever the car with sufficient skill. Which I seriously question how some people pass the sufficient skill part. However, I imagine it would be pretty much the same for other states as well. My mother had a friend who has passed now, but he was totally color blind. He could only see in greyscale. He drove and had a driver's license. He had to memorize what order the red, yellow and green lights where in so that he could tell which light was lit. From the CALIF DMV website: 1913 Chapter 326 of the Motor Vehicle Act, approved May 31, 1913, establishes the document authorizing a person to operate a motor vehicle as an operator's license or a chauffeur's license. After December 31, 1913, no one may operate or drive a motor vehicle without a license. So there you have it from Calif. anyway. Jacki _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:56 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport translation help, please Hi Cheri, In those days they had a warm body registry. As long as you did not assume room temperature you got a license. Seriously they probably did not have licenses when he started to drive. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy organization
Everyone should pay close attention to this. I can tell you from personal experience. Several years ago, my house caught fire while we were all asleep. Let me tell you, when you wake up hearing someone yelling fire!! Get Out!!, you do just that. You do not think to grab any possessions. Only loved ones. You have about 3 minutes or less to do it. If copies of my files and pictures had not been stored at my mother's house, I would have lost a tremendous amout of work because in less then 20 minutes, the only thing that was deem salvagable (by the insurance company) was the toilet in the front bathroom and what we had worn to bed. Both cars, our house and every personal possession we had was gone. And with the havoc that mother nature seems to be putting upon us lately, she's shown that it can happen anyware. Don't be the one who says, I wish I would have. Jacki Bottom line: Multiple copies all over the place. Mother Nature doesn't care about our genealogy. Floods, tsunamis, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc can claim our stuff within a few minutes. Dick Eastman calls this L.O.C.K.S.S. - Lots Of Copies Keeps Stuff Safe -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy organization
Of course what works for one doesn't always work for another...But after attending the Family History Expo in Pleasanton last year, I learned some nice archiving tips during one of the classes there. The instructor made a very good point when she pointed out, that if you don't make your discoveries easy to find by anyone coming behind you, all your hard work could go to waste or lost all over again. I for one, would like my kids to someday take the reins from me and keep the research and documenting going. So, I want to make it easy for them to follow what I've done. I have set up folders on my hard drive for the following sources: Admin - logins, passwords, favorite sites...etc Family Trees - Family tree reports and backup files for Family Tree software Pictures - All pictures - Sub folders for each Surname or subject ex: cemetery church photos or Flags and symbols Primary - These are primary sources of information like Baptism and Birth records, Census, Wills, Immigration...etc. I have a sub folder for each type Seconday - These are secondary sources of information like correspondence, notes, general records. I also have binders for each of these. Although I only keep paper copies of things that are not easily replaced or re-found, things that wouldn't make it through a scanner, or things that are originals and have sentimental value to me. Eash binder is divided the same way the computer folders are. As your database grows, so will your need for storage if you keep everything you find on paper. (As well as killing trees to do it) ;p)...sorry the tree hugger in me is coming out. In each folder, the files are named in a consistent manner as to keep them grouped together and easy to find. For example: A will would be named like this: Medeiros-Jose-Will-1979.pdf, a marriage certificiate would be Medeiros-Jose-Mary Fernandes-1925.jpg Naming files consistently is VERY IMPORTANT! And lastly, as all of you are or should be alreasy aware.BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP So there's my take on it. Jacki -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:19 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy organization As I collect information on my Azorean roots, I enter it into my genealogy software program (I use Legacy).. But what do you do with the paper. When I started out, I didn't have much but slowly I'm collecting history, language, search sites, birth, marriage etc. certificates or transcriptions.. How do you organize this so you can find it. I would be interested in what you all use that works for you before I decide. Files,computer Thanks Karen -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Computer Guru's Help Win XP vs Win 7 FamilyTreeMaker Question
Unfortunately, no, they are not lying. That version is too old for Windows 7. It may work for a little while, but it will eventually stop working or will continually have problems which could corrupt your database. Running in compatiblity mode may work, but honestly, I think you're better off to upgrade. I have FTM 2010 and it works fine on both XP and Windows 7. I run XP on my desktop computer and Win 7 on my laptop. You might be able to find FTM 2010 cheaper on ebay. I hate changing things too but I think you might like the newer version. Once I got used to it, I actually like it best and I have my trees in 3 different softwares. FTM, Roots Magic and Heritage Family Tree. Jacki _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gaby Gaultney Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 5:03 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Computer Guru's Help Win XP vs Win 7 FamilyTreeMaker Question I just had the same experience. I called Ancestry and was told that Version 16 and Windows 7 have compatibility issues which can't be resolved. I ended up having to purchase Family Tree 2011. Version 16 is on my new computer but every time I access it, I Get the incompatibility message. I think I'll wait and see before I install the New version. Gabriella Gaultney gaultne...@comcast.net ---Original Message--- From: \E\ Sharp mailto:bellema...@gmail.com Date: 3/16/2011 4:26:43 PM To: azores mailto:Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Computer Guru's Help Win XP vs Win 7 FamilyTreeMaker Question I purchased a netbook and my son is downloading all my software onto it. When he went to download my FamilyTreeMaker Version 16, it says it cannot be done and I have to upgrade but he says it all appears to be there.anyone else had this problem switching from Windows XP to Windows 7? I do not want a newer version as I like the one that I have. Are they just telling me I have to upgrade so I have to pay for something I do not want? Thank you. Elaine -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.SENDER_EMAILgaultneymg@comcast@@net.pngfrench_cat.gif
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Family Tree
Too bad too, because I could use one of those. Maybe ten or so years from now it will be me. My goal is to be a professional researcher after I retire. And since my families are from the Azores and colonial America (Maryland, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Kentucky) who knows. And now with Kate Middleton marrying prince William, I may have English royalty since one of my prominent lines are Middletons. Jacki _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adair Borba Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 3:42 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Family Tree Story of my life! This I did not know!! On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Adair, Good luck in finding a researcher that can do Portuguese as well as colonial America, West Virginia, Kentucky, and English royalty. Try the APG, or the FHL, but one researcher doing all those specialty areas doesn't exist. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting story with recipes.
To all who requested recipes; I had a major computer melt down and don't have all my e-mails from the last couple of weeks. I just wanted to let you all know that I sent out the recipes this evening to those people I had emails from. If anyone asked me for them and didn't get them, please send me another email and I'll get them to you right away. Computers.can't live with them; can't live without them. Jacki -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jacki G Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:03 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting story with recipes. Just a quick note: For all of you who requested recipes, I'll get them to you soon. I just got slammed with a boat load of work at work and will be working 11 12 hours days for a while. But I promise, they will go out soon. Thanks a bunch Jacki -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting story with recipes.
Just a quick note: For all of you who requested recipes, I'll get them to you soon. I just got slammed with a boat load of work at work and will be working 11 12 hours days for a while. But I promise, they will go out soon. Thanks a bunch Jacki -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Norton Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 2:28 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting story with recipes. Your absolutely right. My mother made massa in batches every Christmas and Easter to give to everyone. I remember helping her, but never had the touch of making it myself. I tried, but it never comes out like hers or the way it should. Of course, she never measured anything so getting that down is hard enough so I kind of given up. I can still remember the smell of the bread when it rises the next day and ready to be put in the oven. I miss that. It's sad that the blood gets thinner, but I know my eldest son still loves and looks forward to having some of the dishes, my youngest not so much. They have gone over to see my family there so I know that will be carried over to their families in mind and heart. It's kind of sad that the younger generation isn't really traditional anymore or at least as we were. I know it's the society with everyone moving around to other places makes it harder. What can you do. Linda -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jacki G Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting story with recipes. Kale soup is one of my most favorite out of all the wonderful things my grandmother taught me to make. I make it all the time. It's just so easy and delicious. If anyone wants the recipe, just let me know. Another favorite is the sweet bread. I make it every year at Christmas and Easter. The Sopas that is traditionally served at the Holy Ghost celebrations is also another favorite that I enjoy making. I think food is a wonderful way to stay in touch with our history. I try hard to keep the traditions going. Not just for my Portuguese side but I have to say that's the food I enjoy the most. As the generations continue, the blood gets thinner and thinner but if the love of the food can keep the appreciation of their heritage in their hearts, then it's worth the extra time and effort to make it. Jacki -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Norton Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 3:21 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting story with recipes. I just made Portuguese Kale Soup the other day. I remember having Soupas de Espirito Santo, when we would go to the religious feasts in my younger days held in Cambridge, New Bedford, Fall River, Ludlow, etc. It was a poor man's soup. Linda Borges Furtado Norton -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E Sharp Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 9:14 PM To: azores Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting story with recipes. Lucky you if you live in the area. Not sure if it is Yuma AZ . A couple of great recipes, too! http://www.yumasun.com/articles/portuguese-67579-millie-meat.html E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New York) and took a train to the west coast. (1) Were the train stations near the ports? (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to get to their destinations. (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. thank-you for your time. grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] I need some help.
Eric, I can confirm that you can no longer search death records on microfilm in Alameda County. I went there about a month ago and was not very happy when I was told in no uncertain terms that they will not allow it even though their website says you can. I was told the same thing a couple days later when I called just to make sure I didn't just get someone in a cranky mood that day. You cannot even get a copy while you wait so don't waste your time going there. If you need a death certificate from this county, use either their on-line request or print the form and mail it in. The cost is $14.00 per request whether they find it or not. I prefer to mail in the form when I don't know the exact information because that way I can include post-it notes offering other possible info to help them search for it. Jacki Gentry _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:21 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I need some help. Shirley, I spoke to someone last week who said the Recorders office no longer allows searching of microfilms. You need to have a date and they will print out the info for a price. I haven't confirmed that yet. from Ancestry.com Nevada marriages Nevada http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1100enc=1 Marriage Index, 1956-2005 about Vernon A Amaral Name:Vernon A Amaral Gender: Male Spouse: Kathleen Rose C Munday Marriage Date: 14 Oct 1976 Marriage City: Stateline Officiant type: Religious celebrant Recorded Date: 8 Nov 1976 Recorded city: Reno Book:628 Page:-20 For divorces Amaral, Vernon A b.1923 Kirherer, Ann M, b. 1927 married in 1956 divorced in city of Alameda May 1975 Eric Edgar On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: I need someone to do a lookup for me at the County Recorder's Office in Oakland, CA. Here is what I have: Vernon Anthony Amaral son of (Luis Amaral X Helen Alice Martin) Born: 10 May 1923, probably in Alvarado, Alameda, California. Info from WW11 Army Enlistment Record: enlisted: 12 Feb 1943, in San Francisco He was still 19 years old, and MARRIED. It doesn't list his spouse. I am guessing that he was married between 1940 - 12 Feb 1943. If someone could find the marriage info for me, I will be forever greatful. Also, if there is a way to look up DIVORCES in California, please let me know how. AND, Vernon died 28 Feb 1996, in Livermore, Alameda, California. If anyone has access to the OBITS for California, I sure would like to get a copy. I don't have any idea if Vernon was married when he died. Vernon was probably married at least 6 times. Vernon and my husband, Gary, are 1st cousins one time removed. Thanks Shirley -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 08:36:00 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial
Wow Emil, That just proves how small the world can be. If you'd like, I would love to share more detailed lineage information. If you're interested, we can do that through private emails. You can email me at: jacki at thegentrys dot us It's always nice to find family. Now I have found two more cousins. Jacki Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ehsilve...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 1:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial Hi Jacki, Lazaro Gomes Trozilho and Clara Goulart are both my wife Dorothy Anne Ray and my Emil Henry Silveira's 9th great-grandparents. We are also Pat's Cousin. My wife Dot descends from their son Pedro Gomes and I descend from their daughter Maria Vieira. Hello cousin. Emil Emil Silveira - Original Message - From: Jacki G ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:19:45 - (UTC) Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial Just in case anyone else is also connected to this line; I am posting it here publicly. Lazaro Gomes and Clara Goulart Pedro Gomes and Madelena Jorge Lazaro Gomes d.1686 and Barbara Duarte Francisco Gomes 1634-bfr1672 and Maria Pereira d.1672 Andre de Medeiros abt.1667-1695 and Catarina Luis abt 1655 - 1705 Manuel de Medeiros 1689-1747 and Maria de Sao Jose 1725 - 1802 Vincente Jose de Medeiros 1765 - 1832 and Maria Silveira abt 1771 - 1821 Jose Francisco de Medeiros 1795 - ? and Mariana Bernarda 1789 - ? Antonio Francisco de Medeiros 1829 - ? and Maria Clara 1834 - ? Manuel Francisco de Medeiros 1876 - 1959 and Maria Francisca Machado 1875 - 1942 Jose Alfred Medeiros 1898 - 1979 and Mary Bernice Fernandes 1907 - 1992 Eldora Medeiros (My Mother) I also have Medeiros' on my grandmother's side from Sao Miguel which is the next line to get my major focus. Patricia, I figured out that we are 7th cousins 2x removed. What a small world it is. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Butcher Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:42 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial Hi Jacki, How exciting to find another cousin!!! Here is my line of descendants starting with Francisco. If you need more details you can contact me privately. Francisco Gomes b.1634 Gregorio Duarte Domingas Pereira Manuel Francisco Furtado de Mendonca Domingos Antonio de Mendonca Aurelia Rita Bernarda de Escobr Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b.1824 Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b. 1868 Isabel Louise Perry (my mother) Patricia Las Vegas, NV At 01:01 PM 9/14/2010, you wrote: Wow Patricia, that is the first time I have come accross someone with a common relative in this side of my family. He is my 8th ggrandfather. That definitely makes us cousins. ;) I also found the record for his grandson Manuel de Medeiros born Aug 1689 (my 6th ggrandfather). I haven't been able to find a birth record though for either one though. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [ mailto:azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Butcher Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:41 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Hi Jacki, Your Francisco Gomes is my 7th ggrandfather. I have his birthdate in my file as August 1634. No day is given. Let me know if you figure out the day. Thanks!! Patricia At 11:06 PM 9/13/2010, you wrote: Can anyone make out what this says. There is also a larger version that may be easier to see, on my family website here:http://www.thegentrys.us/Baptism1634.htm I am trying to make sure I have the right record. It should be the baptismal record for Francisco Gomes baptized 20 Aug 1634. His parents were Lazaro Gomes and Barbara Duarte. Baptised at Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara, Cedros Faial. With my limited ability to read the old portuguese, I'm only pretty sure. Thanks for the help Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pleasanton Conference
Well, I wasn't able to make it to Pleasanton Thurs night for the dinner and I somehow managed to miss all of you at the Expo. I kept looking for Celeste since she was the only person from the group that I've met but I never saw her. I was there both Friday and Saturday almost all day. I enjoyed the Expo very much and learned several new things. I am certainly looking forward to all that Familysearch has planned for their new site. I think I enjoyed that class today best of all. I also purchased Roots Magic after going to their classes. I think it might be better than family tree maker. It certainly has better reports. I agree with all of you too when it comes to Celeste. She invited my mother and I to her house a while back so she could help me find my g grandparents' graves in Hayward. She not only drove us to the cemetery from her house, but she fixed a wonderful lunch of kale soup and portuguese meats, cheese and bread. And then she sent us home with food and hand crafted bags she had crocheted from grocery bags. I love my bag Celeste. I use it all the time. My mother does too. Jacki -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family History Expo
I most likely will not make it to the restaurant, but I will definitely be at the expo. I am looking forward to meeting as many of you as I can. So far, I've only met Celeste. She was kind enough to help me find my great grandparent's graves in Hayward and serve my mother and I a very nice portuguese lunch. I think I will probably make my own name tag that identifies me as a member of the Azores Google Group with a Portuguse flag on it. So if any of you spot a middle aged blond women sporting a name tag with green and red on it, it's probably me. So please, introduce yourself. Did any of you receive anything from the expo like a ticket or something to get in? I didn't so I'm hoping that's because we just sign in at the door. I have my email confirmation from when I registered. Jacki _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of celeste perry Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:23 PM To: Azores list Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family History Expo The 2010 California Family History Expo is going to be at the Alameda County Fairgrounds in Pleasanton, CA on October 8 - 9, 2010. Several list members have expressed an interest in meeting other list members. With this in mind, I thought it would be nice to meet each other on Thursday, October 7th for dinner. Elaine, Sam, Robin and I plan to eat dinner in Castro Valley at Shari's Restaurant at 7pm on Thursday evening. The address is: 3360 Castro Valley Blvd. If you are coming from Pleasanton, take Hwy 580 west and exit at the first Castro Valley exit. At the light, make a left turn onto E. Castro Valley Blvd. Continue west on Castro Valley Blvd. past Redwood Road and Castro Village (a shopping center). The restaurant is on the right, immediately past Walgreen's Drug Store. If you are coming from the west (San Francisco, Oakland, Berkeley, etc.), take Hwy 580 east, toward Hayward. Take the Strobridge exit and turn left at the light (go under the freeway) and turn right on Castro Valley Blvd. Continue east on Castro Valley Blvd. to 3360 Castro Valley Blvd., on the left. You can go to www.sharis.com and check their menu We will be eating in the back room and would very much like meeting you. Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3167 - Release Date: 09/30/10 06:34:00 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] A little genealogy ditty
This is great! I can definitely relate to it. I am going to make this part of the family tree page of our family website. Jacki -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E Sharp Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:32 AM To: azores Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] A little genealogy ditty Another site I belong to just posted this and I thought it cute and most of us can relate. So I googled it and here it is. If you google The Elusive Ancestor the person who has posted it has a few other nice poems. Enjoy! E THE ELUSIVE ANCESTOR I went searching for an ancestor ... I cannot find him still, He moved around from place to place And did not leave a will. He married where a courthouse burned, He mended all his fences; He avoided any man Who came to take the U.S. Census. He always kept his luggage packed, This man who had no fame; And every 20 years or so, This rascal changed his name. His parents came from Europe ... They should be upon some list Of passengers to U.S.A., But somehow they got missed. And no one else in this world Is searching for this man; So, I play geneasolitaire To find him if I can. I'm told he's buried in a plot, With tombstone he was blessed; But the weather took engraving, And some vandals took the rest. He died before the county clerks Decided to keep records; No Family Bible has emerged, In spite of all my efforts. To top it off this ancestor, Who caused me many groans, Just to give me one more pain, Betrothed a girl named JONES! ~ Merrell Kenworthy ~ (this the the name listed on the site - not sure if she is author or not) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3167 - Release Date: 09/30/10 06:34:00 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial
Al, That's great! Francisco is actually my 8th ggrandfather. My eyes didn't follow down the list too well and I left out a set of ggrandparents. Another Manuel and Maria. (All the Manuel's and Maria's get confusing sometimes) The corrections are below in red. That still makes us 7th cousins, 2x removed and you and Patricia 7th cousins I think. Which is great. Where in the country are you located? I've been researching this side of my family for a long time and hadn't found anyone who connects to me and now this month I have found two. What's your line of descendants? If you like to email me privately, my regular email is ja...@thegentrys.us I'd be happy to share whatever I have that would be helpful to you. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bigal...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:00 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial Hi Jacki Francisco Gomes is my 7th Ggrandfather. So I guess we are closely related. Al Sequeira In a message dated 9/16/2010 11:17:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ja...@cdmmarketing.com writes: Just in case anyone else is also connected to this line; I am posting it here publicly. Lazaro Gomes and Clara Goulart Pedro Gomes and Madelena Jorge Lazaro Gomes d.1686 and Barbara Duarte Francisco Gomes 1634-bfr1672 and Maria Pereira d.1672 Andre de Medeiros abt.1667-1695 and Catarina Luis abt 1655 - 1705 Manuel de Medeiros 1689-1747 and Maria de Freitas abt 1683 - ? Manuel de Medeiros de Freitas abt 1717 - 1797 and Maria de Sao Jose 1725 - 1802 Vincente Jose de Medeiros 1765 - 1832 and Maria Silveira abt 1771 - 1821 Jose Francisco de Medeiros 1795 - ? and Mariana Bernarda 1789 - ? Antonio Francisco de Medeiros 1829 - ? and Maria Clara 1834 - ? Manuel Francisco de Medeiros 1876 - 1959 and Maria Francisca Machado 1875 - 1942 Jose Alfred Medeiros 1898 - 1979 and Mary Bernice Fernandes 1907 - 1992 Eldora Medeiros (My Mother) I also have Medeiros' on my grandmother's side from Sao Miguel which is the next line to get my major focus. Patricia, I figured out that we are 7th cousins 2x removed. What a small world it is. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Butcher Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:42 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial Hi Jacki, How exciting to find another cousin!!! Here is my line of descendants starting with Francisco. If you need more details you can contact me privately. Francisco Gomes b.1634 Gregorio Duarte Domingas Pereira Manuel Francisco Furtado de Mendonca Domingos Antonio de Mendonca Aurelia Rita Bernarda de Escobr Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b.1824 Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b. 1868 Isabel Louise Perry (my mother) Patricia Las Vegas, NV At 01:01 PM 9/14/2010, you wrote: Wow Patricia, that is the first time I have come accross someone with a common relative in this side of my family. He is my 8th ggrandfather. That definitely makes us cousins. ;) I also found the record for his grandson Manuel de Medeiros born Aug 1689 (my 6th ggrandfather). I haven't been able to find a birth record though for either one though. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [ mailto:azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Patricia Butcher Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:41 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Hi Jacki, Your Francisco Gomes is my 7th ggrandfather. I have his birthdate in my file as August 1634. No day is given. Let me know if you figure out the day. Thanks!! Patricia At 11:06 PM 9/13/2010, you wrote: Can anyone make out what this says. There is also a larger version that may be easier to see, on my family website here: http://www.thegentrys.us/Baptism1634.htm I am trying to make sure I have the right record. It should be the baptismal record for Francisco Gomes baptized 20 Aug 1634. His parents were Lazaro Gomes and Barbara Duarte. Baptised at Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara, Cedros Faial. With my limited ability to read the old portuguese, I'm only pretty sure. Thanks for the help Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial
Just in case anyone else is also connected to this line; I am posting it here publicly. Lazaro Gomes and Clara Goulart Pedro Gomes and Madelena Jorge Lazaro Gomes d.1686 and Barbara Duarte Francisco Gomes 1634-bfr1672 and Maria Pereira d.1672 Andre de Medeiros abt.1667-1695 and Catarina Luis abt 1655 - 1705 Manuel de Medeiros 1689-1747 and Maria de Sao Jose 1725 - 1802 Vincente Jose de Medeiros 1765 - 1832 and Maria Silveira abt 1771 - 1821 Jose Francisco de Medeiros 1795 - ? and Mariana Bernarda 1789 - ? Antonio Francisco de Medeiros 1829 - ? and Maria Clara 1834 - ? Manuel Francisco de Medeiros 1876 - 1959 and Maria Francisca Machado 1875 - 1942 Jose Alfred Medeiros 1898 - 1979 and Mary Bernice Fernandes 1907 - 1992 Eldora Medeiros (My Mother) I also have Medeiros' on my grandmother's side from Sao Miguel which is the next line to get my major focus. Patricia, I figured out that we are 7th cousins 2x removed. What a small world it is. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Butcher Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:42 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial Hi Jacki, How exciting to find another cousin!!! Here is my line of descendants starting with Francisco. If you need more details you can contact me privately. Francisco Gomes b.1634 Gregorio Duarte Domingas Pereira Manuel Francisco Furtado de Mendonca Domingos Antonio de Mendonca Aurelia Rita Bernarda de Escobr Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b.1824 Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b. 1868 Isabel Louise Perry (my mother) Patricia Las Vegas, NV At 01:01 PM 9/14/2010, you wrote: Wow Patricia, that is the first time I have come accross someone with a common relative in this side of my family. He is my 8th ggrandfather. That definitely makes us cousins. ;) I also found the record for his grandson Manuel de Medeiros born Aug 1689 (my 6th ggrandfather). I haven't been able to find a birth record though for either one though. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [ mailto:azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Butcher Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:41 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Hi Jacki, Your Francisco Gomes is my 7th ggrandfather. I have his birthdate in my file as August 1634. No day is given. Let me know if you figure out the day. Thanks!! Patricia At 11:06 PM 9/13/2010, you wrote: Can anyone make out what this says. There is also a larger version that may be easier to see, on my family website here: http://www.thegentrys.us/Baptism1634.htm I am trying to make sure I have the right record. It should be the baptismal record for Francisco Gomes baptized 20 Aug 1634. His parents were Lazaro Gomes and Barbara Duarte. Baptised at Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara, Cedros Faial. With my limited ability to read the old portuguese, I'm only pretty sure. Thanks for the help Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help
Wow Patricia, that is the first time I have come accross someone with a common relative in this side of my family. He is my 8th ggrandfather. That definitely makes us cousins. ;) I also found the record for his grandson Manuel de Medeiros born Aug 1689 (my 6th ggrandfather). I haven't been able to find a birth record though for either one though. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Butcher Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:41 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Hi Jacki, Your Francisco Gomes is my 7th ggrandfather. I have his birthdate in my file as August 1634. No day is given. Let me know if you figure out the day. Thanks!! Patricia At 11:06 PM 9/13/2010, you wrote: Can anyone make out what this says. There is also a larger version that may be easier to see, on my family website here: http://www.thegentrys.us/Baptism1634.htm I am trying to make sure I have the right record. It should be the baptismal record for Francisco Gomes baptized 20 Aug 1634. His parents were Lazaro Gomes and Barbara Duarte. Baptised at Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara, Cedros Faial. With my limited ability to read the old portuguese, I'm only pretty sure. Thanks for the help Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros in Sao Miguel
Yes, I do have family from Sao Miguel. So far, the family that I have been able to find has been from Faja de Cima and Faja de Baixo. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:19 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros in Sao Miguel Repost for pisces3886 at gmail.com Hi Jacki, My last name is Medeiros. Do you have any family from Sao Miguel? No name was signed. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Do not join mydailyflog
A general reminder to all of you. As an IT person, I see this kind of stuff all the time. As a general rule, you should never click on ANY link in an email unless you were specifically expecting it. Even if it was sent from someone you know. Just like in this case, the person may not have really sent the email. If you get something you think might be legitimate but are not quite sure, email the person and ask if they sent it first. If it's from a company, go to the website on your own without clicking the link or do the same thing as for a personal email. Email them and verify that they really sent it before you click on it. It's quite common for email ID's to be highjacked and used to catch you off guard. These are generally emails that are designed to infect your system the moment you click on them and can steal a whole host of information from your system before you even realize it. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E Sharp Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:12 PM To: azores Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Do not join mydailyflog If any of you get an email saying I invited you to join Mydailyflog, do NOT join. I did NOT send or ask them to send this and somehow they got into my mailing list and sent it out to everyone on my mailing list. I have had them remove my email address from their list! Elaine -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help
Doug, Thank you for the translation. I'm confused though. He died in Cedros, Faial but the priest was in Pico? Somehow, that doesn't sound right. Any ideas? Thanks again Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Borba Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:03 AM To: Azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Jacki, António was from Pé da Carapeta and the priest was in Pico. Doug Borba _ From: ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:09:51 -0700 Can someone please help me with the translation for this note from the NEPS website? I get that the birth record wasn't found and that from the death record the priest says that he died in Sep 1670 and that it was presumed that he was buried in the church of Santa Barbara. It's the do pé da Carapeta, estando eu no Pico part that I'm not clear on. Is it saying it's where he's from or maybe where he died? Não foi encontrado o registo de nascimento (baptismo) do António. No registo de óbito do António, o padre diz o seguinte: A tantos de Setembro de mil seiscentos e setenta, faleceu António Alvernás do pé da Carapeta, estando eu no Pico, recebeu todos os divinos sacramentos, fez uns apontamentos(sic). Presume-se que tenha sido sepultado na Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara. Thanks in advance for the help. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Research tip CCA website and Ellis Island
Thanks Rick. I will definitely keep that in mind while trying to find my great grandparents. It's amazing what a difference little things like that can make. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rfrancispimen...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 5:27 AM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Research tip CCA website and Ellis Island Hi All, Yesterday I found the arrival of some of my family in the US at Ellis Island. I had to use a roundabout way to find them on the Ellis Island web site due to the fact many of the names are spelled incorrectly or not the names we are familiar with. I was searching to try and find out when my great uncle Manuel J. Carvalho arrived in the US. The Petition for Naturalization for his brother John said he (John) came to the US in 1896 on the Dona Maria. My grandmother Josephine was born in Fall River on 8 Dec 1898. Another sister Connie was said to have been born in the Acores in 1896. So my guess was they traveled to the US sometime between 1896 and Mar 1898. I went to the CCA website and began searching Book 1896-1900 page by page. I got lucky on page 23 I found the entry I was looking for. http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1896-1900/PPDL1896-1 900_item1/P25.html The entry shows my great grandmother traveling with 4 of her children along with her brother in law and his wife. I had never known of this brother in law before seeing this. The date of the entry was 11 May 1897. I went to the Ellis Island web site and searched ship arrivals for the Dona Maria arriving after 11 May 1897 and used the printed index. My great grandmother's name was not on the list but her brother in law was listed as Jose Joaquim Carvatho. So that is why I was not getting a hit on searches for Carvalho for the time I was searching. This printed list is the same one that is used when you do a search. In glancing down the list I saw an unusual name Lousa then I realized that who ever transcribed the names mistook the letter S for the letter L so all you who are searching for names beginning with S try substituting the letter L. To some things up my great grandmother arrived in this country on 26 May 1897 on the Dona Maria with four of her children along with her brother in law and his wife. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Join Ancestry.com in the San Francisco Bay Area
Tracy, I don't have much information on the Azevedos in my family either. My great grandmother married Manuel Azevedo in Oakland, CA. I know he was born in the Azores in 1883 but I don't know what island. They are both buried in Manteca. I haven't spent too much time on this line yet. First, because he was my step-great grandfather and my aunt who was his youngest daughter-in-law doesn't remember much about his family. And second, I'm working one line at a time and I'm not there yet. It's possible that they could be brothers. I registered for the weekend so I will defintitely be there. Hopefully, I will see you there. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Krause Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:36 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Join Ancestry.com in the San Francisco Bay Area I recvd this invite as well! I am hoping to attend. I mom and her family members lived in many of the towns within Alameda County Jacki, my mother's grandmother married a Joe Azevedo and lived in Manteca. Her name was Ermelinda ~ by chance would these people be part of your line? All I have is document of when they married, and knowledge they lived in Manteca after they married in Nevada. Tracy From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jacki G Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:52 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Join Ancestry.com in the San Francisco Bay Area I thought I would pass this on in case some of you might be interested in going. I will be going and I would love to share the experience and meet some you in the group Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel http://link.ancestry.com/1x1.dyn?0FkG6rUPifxUGh-llSpKl-jvh=0 http://link.ancestry.com/u.d?P4GrJuZ3twSok_802YQ-=141 ancestry.com Join Ancestry.com in California! Just starting to build your family tree? Ready to take your research skills to the next level? Then you won't want to miss the http://link.ancestry.com/u.d?R4GrJuZ3twSok_802YSw=401 2010 California Family History Expo October 8 - 9, 2010 Alameda County Fairgrounds, Pleasanton, CA Sponsored in part by Ancestry.com Take part in two full days of family history classes, exhibitors, and other events designed to help you improve your family history skills. Expo Classes - Registration Required http://link.ancestry.com/u.d?OYGrJuZ3twSok_802YS1=411 Register today to attend 2 full days of the California Expo, which include an array of more than 75 classes to help every family historian - from those just beginning their search to those who've been working on genealogy for years. Expo classes include the following taught by Ancestry.com experts: * Best Strategies for Searching Ancestry.com - Discover the best strategies for searching Ancestry.com's thousands of databases to get the most information about your ancestors. * Getting the Most from Family Tree Maker - Learn how Family Tree Maker can help you more effectively organize, manage, and share your family history. * Getting the Most from Your Ancestry.com Membership - Get an inside look at the historical records and tree-building tools on Ancestry.com. http://link.ancestry.com/u.d?S4GrJuZ3twSok_802YSq=421 Register by August 31 for only $55! Learn more about all of the great Conference classes today. Exhibit Hall - Free to the Public! Stop by the Ancestry.com booth to get hands-on answers to your Ancestry.com questions. Even if you can't attend the rest of the show, the exhibit hall is free to the public! The exhibit hall also features family history vendors from across the country. The exhibit hall is open: * Friday, October 8 - 10 am-6 pm * Saturday, October 9 - 9 am-6:30 pm http://link.ancestry.com/u.d?XYGrJuZ3twSok_802YSv=431 Register today to attend the 2010 California Family History Expo We hope to see you in Pleasanton! Please note: Please do not respond/reply to this email as we are unable to personally follow up on responses we receive. If you have a customer support concern, please call 1-800-667-7619. Use the link above to start the survey. You can also contact us at: Ancestry.com Operations Inc. Attn: Customer Service 360 West 4800 North Provo, UT 84604 USA http://link.ancestry.com/u.d?WYGrJuZ3twSok_802YQL=231 Edit your account options or http://email.ancestry.com/unsubscribe.jsp?s=4QTui=900093572539 unsubscribe from this communication. You are subscribed to Ancestry Special Offers as: famsea...@cdmmarketing.com. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing
[AZORES-Genealogy] Join Ancestry.com in the San Francisco Bay Area
I thought I would pass this on in case some of you might be interested in going. I will be going and I would love to share the experience and meet some you in the group Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel http://link.ancestry.com/1x1.dyn?0FkG6rUPifxUGh-llSpKl-jvh=0 http://link.ancestry.com/u.d?P4GrJuZ3twSok_802YQ-=141 ancestry.com Join Ancestry.com in California! Just starting to build your family tree? Ready to take your research skills to the next level? Then you won't want to miss the 2010 http://link.ancestry.com/u.d?R4GrJuZ3twSok_802YSw=401 California Family History Expo October 8 - 9, 2010 Alameda County Fairgrounds, Pleasanton, CA Sponsored in part by Ancestry.com Take part in two full days of family history classes, exhibitors, and other events designed to help you improve your family history skills. Expo Classes - Registration Required Register http://link.ancestry.com/u.d?OYGrJuZ3twSok_802YS1=411 today to attend 2 full days of the California Expo, which include an array of more than 75 classes to help every family historian - from those just beginning their search to those who've been working on genealogy for years. Expo classes include the following taught by Ancestry.com experts: * Best Strategies for Searching Ancestry.com - Discover the best strategies for searching Ancestry.com's thousands of databases to get the most information about your ancestors. * Getting the Most from Family Tree Maker - Learn how Family Tree Maker can help you more effectively organize, manage, and share your family history. * Getting the Most from Your Ancestry.com Membership - Get an inside look at the historical records and tree-building tools on Ancestry.com. Register http://link.ancestry.com/u.d?S4GrJuZ3twSok_802YSq=421 by August 31 for only $55! Learn more about all of the great Conference classes today. Exhibit Hall - Free to the Public! Stop by the Ancestry.com booth to get hands-on answers to your Ancestry.com questions. Even if you can't attend the rest of the show, the exhibit hall is free to the public! The exhibit hall also features family history vendors from across the country. The exhibit hall is open: * Friday, October 8 - 10 am-6 pm * Saturday, October 9 - 9 am-6:30 pm Register http://link.ancestry.com/u.d?XYGrJuZ3twSok_802YSv=431 today to attend the 2010 California Family History Expo We hope to see you in Pleasanton! Please note: Please do not respond/reply to this email as we are unable to personally follow up on responses we receive. If you have a customer support concern, please call 1-800-667-7619. Use the link above to start the survey. You can also contact us at: Ancestry.com Operations Inc. Attn: Customer Service 360 West 4800 North Provo, UT 84604 USA Edit http://link.ancestry.com/u.d?WYGrJuZ3twSok_802YQL=231 your account options or unsubscribe http://email.ancestry.com/unsubscribe.jsp?s=4QTui=900093572539 from this communication. You are subscribed to Ancestry Special Offers as: famsea...@cdmmarketing.com. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such
I need to get more into Portuguese food. This sounds great. When I was a kid, the only portuguese dishes my grandmother made were: beans, soupas, Vinha d’Alhos, linquisa, ovos á moda da montanha, kale soup, fava beans and sweet bread. She taught me how to make all of it and I have continued fixing those dishes for my family, but there is so much more wonderful food to be tried. Even though my kids are only 1/4 Portuguese, they are very proud of their heritage and love the food. So, I love hearing about all these different foods. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:28 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such In Brazil ,in refering to feijoada as the national dish means feijoada completa. It's a big production, usually for a Saturday gathering of family and friends, or going out to a restaurant that specializes in it. It's based on black beans cooked with carne seca, a dried beef, ham hocks, ribs, sausages like morcilla and chourico. Of course everybody has their own idea of what a real feijoada should be. It is often served with caiparinhas, which is basically a mojito without mint, just lime,sugar, and cachaca , a liquor made from sugar cane juice, brighter and cleaner than rum, and usually 86 to 90 proof. First the bean liquor is served in small cups like soup, meats are sliced on platters, feijoada in a tureen acompanied by white rice, farofa, which is roasted cassava flour ( think toasted bread crumbs), couve mineira, greens sauteed with garlic and red pepper, and a hot red pepper sauce. Eric E On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:22 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Feijoada is a http://wiki/Stew stew of http://wiki/Common_beans beans with http://wiki/Beef beef and http://wiki/Pork pork, which is a typical http://wiki/Portuguese_cuisine Portuguese dish, also typical in http://wiki/Brazil Brazil, http://wiki/Angola Angola and other former http://wiki/Portuguese_colonies Portuguese colonies. In Brazil, feijoada is considered the http://wiki/National_dish national dish, which was brought to South America by the Portuguese, based in ancient Feijoada recipes from the Portuguese regions of http://wiki/Beira,_Portugal Beira, http://wiki/Estremadura Estremadura, and http://wiki/Tr%C3%A1s-os-Montes Trás-os-Montes. https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#129630b654fe7607_cite_note-0 [1] The name comes from feijão, http://wiki/Portuguese_language Portuguese for beans, and is pronounced http://wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_Portuguese [fejʒuˈadɐ]. - Original Message - From: John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:08:51 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such Actually Cindy, fejoada is Afro Brazillian in origin. When the slave masters killed pigs, they saved the chops and the pork roasts (all the good cuts) for themselves and gave the inards, pigs feet, ears, etc to their slaves. The slaves embelished the stew with black beans, etc. If you go to an up scale Brazillian Restaurant, you will find the fejoada further embelished with linguica, etc. In some upscale restaurants in Brazil they will even serve pork chops on the side, a far cry from what the black slaves originally had. My late wife was Brazillian and filled me in on all this history of fejoada. John Vasconcelos On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Cindy D kcci...@aol.com wrote: I wasn't introduced to cacciola until I was in my 40's. We packed up the kids and made the trek to New Bedford one summer and we got there late and tired. We walked into my mom's house and the aroma of something wonderful was wafting around. Yum! Now I've never had cacciola in my whole midwestern life, yet this seemed oddly familiar. Mom said she got it from a deli in New Bedford and we had it on crusty portuguese white bread. So I have wondered ever since if there is some memory in my DNA that remembers a cultural dish like that. My kids even liked it. I can't bake bread worth a hoot so I'm not going to try the bread, but the cacciola is well worth the 2 day process. I can't keep my spoon out of the pot! It smells like perfume to me. Another dish my mother made once a year was feijoada (sp). Mixed meats simmered together with linquica, pork, beef, black beans, garlic, served over riceanother meal to die for. Although she said it was more Brazilian Portuguese. Yum...! Cindy D Kansas On Jun 7, 11:27 am, \E\ Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Made a giant pot of cacciola and had the family in to celebrate! Very not fair to share with all of us!! Which brings up the question, any ideas where/when cacciola
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO
Jacki Gentry _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 4:57 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO Hi Group, In order to make contacting and information sharing easier please answer to this mail just with your name. It would be very useful to us to have an organized list. Thank you in advance, eliseu -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] What does this mean
I've seen this in a number of death records now and I don't really know what it's referring to. foi acompanhada pelo Colégio e amortalhada com mortalha preta / accompanied by the college and shrouded with black shroud Can someone tell me what it is referring to? Thanks Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Unfamiliar Surname
Eugenia, Thank you very much. That's great information to have. Jacki -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:40 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Unfamiliar Surname Jacki, I found the following in my Portuguese Names and Their Meanings for the name HOMEM. I hope this helps in your research. Eugenia = Homem - There is Armorial for the name. Homem, Home - Before 1474, two noblemen, Joao Vaz Corte Real and Alvaro Martins Homem, reached Greenland or Newfoundland which they called Codfish Land (Terra dos Baclhaus). Others had followed by the 1480s. One of them was Fernao Dulm, tried to find the Island of the Seven Cities. Information is from the book: A.H. De Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, 1972, page 221. In Portuguese and Holmes in American as surnames Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, NAMING TRADITIONS, SURNAME TYPES, OProgresso, Dece. 1995, Vol. 14, No. 4, page 10. Homem, means Man. Information is from the Newsletter: Joe Souza, O PROGRESSO, Vol. 15, No. 1, March 1996, NAMING TRADITIONS (PART III), by Doug Da Rocha Holmes, page 9 Homem - change to Forjaz. Homem - Derive from Pereira. Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 203, 209. Homem - This is a and surname commonly used in Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. Information is from: BASIC PORTUGUESE PALEOGRAPHY, The Genealogical Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Series II, No., 20, 1978, page 27. Homem - is a family name of a early Portuguese immigrant in California. Information is from: Carlos Almeida, PORTUGUESE IMMIGRANTS, Published by: The Supreme Council of U.P.E.C., San Leandro, CA,1978, page 269. Holmes - Anglicized (English). Homem - Portuguese family name. Homen - Anglicized (English). Homem - Portuguese family name. Information is from: Carlos Almeida, PORTUGUESE IMMIGRANTS, Published by: The Supreme Council of U.P.E.C., San Leandro, CA,1978, page 272. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unfamiliar Surname
Thank you everyone. I had no idea it was fairly common. I does seem to be more common on islands other than Faial though. Finding this name in my Faial line was a new find. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of his...@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 6:47 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unfamiliar Surname I have this name thoughout my mothers family from Biscoites, Teceira. Helen -Original Message- From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Jun 21, 2010 2:38 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unfamiliar Surname Has any of you heard of the surname Homem? I came accross this name in my research of family in Cedros, Faial and I have never heard that name before. Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists
Definitely will Shirley. I'll make a note in my task list to let you know. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 6:59 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists Jacki: If you find any info about ships that arrived in San Francisco from Hawaii in 1892, would you PLEASE let me know what you find. My paternal grandfather, Joao John Cambra or Camara, or Roble, or Rebello, said that he immigrated in 1892. Thanks Shirley - Original Message - From: Ray Souza mailto:rayrso...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists JackiHave you tried the Portuguese Historical and Genealogical Society of Hawaii ? Their phone no. is 1-808-841-5044 (mon-wed-fri only ..after 12 pm...remember the 3 hour difference) address 810 North Vineyard Blvd. R. 11...Honolulu ,Hawaii 96817..Hope this helpsRay Souza --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:12 PM Does anyone know where or if I can find passenger lists for ships sailing from Hawaii to San Francsico in 1892? I've looked on Ancestry and the only ones I could find start in 1893. I couldn't find anything for ships leaving Hawaii on the Hawaiian Archives site. In particular, I am looking for my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel and Joaquina Rosa Pereira (sometimes went by Perry) who arrived in Hawaii on the Hansa in 1882 and suposedly left there on Aug 17, 1892 on the SS Australia bound for San Francisco. I am trying to verify this as correct information. They had one child (Maria 2) with them when they arrived in Hawaii from Sao Miguel. They had six children with them when they left Hawaii. They settled in Oakland and stayed there until they both died a few months apart in 1933. The information that I have which was passed down by a cousin are just a hand written collection of names and dates. There are no copies of any documents or source information. There was a total of 11 children listed for them. Although there were only birthdates and places for 7. I have not been able to find them on any of the census' either. Which is strange because they should be in Oakland for the 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1930 census. Thanks in advance Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] California cemetery information
I am having close to the same situation now at St. Mary's cemetery in Oakland. I found my great grandfather there first. Since he was killed in an explosion at the Dimond Canyon Quarry in Oakland in 1909. There were plenty of newspaper articles about it so I was able to find that he was buried there. He has a really large stone which I assume was paid for by the company he worked for since my great grandparents were a young family at the time and didn't have any money to speak of. It took me quite a while longer to figure out that my gg grandfather was also buried there. He is actually buried right across the road from his son. However, he does not have a stone. The young woman in the office gave me the location and directions but I couldn't find it and the records didn't say whether or not there was a stone. I went back to the office and this very nice young woman pulled out the original book and maps and looked up the names of all the people around him so I was able to determine exactly where he is and that he has no stone. In that process though, we also discovered that there were two children buried there with him. Both children are named Manuel. One was 7 years old the other 6 mo. The records don't say who they belong to. The 6mo old could have belonged to my great grandparents but the 7 year old would have been born before my they were married (possible but not likely) and my great great grandmother would have been 48 when he was born and she already had a son named Manuel (my great grandfather) who was alive when this child was born. I did send for death certificates a few weeks ago but if that doesn't pan out, I don't know how I would ever figure it out. I also had a similar query at Calvary Catholic Cemetery in San Jose looking for my gg grandmother (the mother of the son above who was killed in the explosion). She was raising my grandmother's sister and remarried to Manuel Miranda. My grandmother's sister married Manuel Miranda's son Frank Miranda when she turned 18. My gg grandmother and my grand aunt were both named Rose so they both became Rose Miranda. When I contacted the office there trying to find the older Rose Miranda, they were very helpful trying to figure out who was where. There was a headstone. A big one. However, not everyone buried there was listed on the stone. There was only one Rose Miranda listed on the stone. As I now know, both of them are there. So, I agree with Robin. If you can get your hands or eyes on the records, you'll be better off then you would if you rely on the headstone only. I've had pretty good luck in having the people who work at the cemeteries and churches help me by just being nice and asking nicely. If someone isn't very helpful, you can try going back or calling back at a different time and try again. Sometimes someone else there will help or the original person is in a better mood. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Besotes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12.58 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] California cemetery information It appears there's two threads speaking of cemetery information, etc. and mentioning children, so instead of posting this comment twice, I've started a new thread. One of our family plots is at the Calvary Catholic Cemetery in San Jose, CA. One item I would note has to do with children's burials. Just because you don't see a headstone, don't automatically believe children are not buried in the plot (or section) with other family members. After doing much research on my Great Grandfather, Antonio da Rocha Borba, AKA Tony Borba and reading an old newspaper article I came across online, he and his first wife lost a child when they lived in San Jose prior to 1925. Not know where the child was buried puzzled me. A while back Susan Lucas offered me San Jose newspaper information about the Borba family. Her offer actually solved the puzzle while they didn't mention where the children were buried, it did note the dates of death. There were actually two infants who passed away. While my parents were at Calvary Cemetery last year, my mother called me from their office with a computer printout of all people buried in the plot. Mom was puzzled with two infants with the names, baby Borba and the dates of death. She wanted to know who these infants belonged to and their cemetery records didn't state. Remembering Susan's newspaper articles, I quickly pulled them out and the dates match! So, we were able to give the cemetery the actual infants names and who their parents were. It was interesting that the plot contains our Great-Great Grandparents, their 18 yr. old son who died from an accidental gun shot and two infants. Yet, the headstones only list the adults. Since my GGGrandparents had
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Eric, St. Joseph's in Hayward is actually Mount St. Joseph's. It's located at the 1000 block of Walpert Street, Hayward. It is owned and over seen by All Saints Catholic Church, 22824 Second St., Hayward 510.581.2570. If you want to go to the cemetary, you'll need to contact them first as the cemetery is kept locked. I'm curious about your Sao Miguel relatives. I also have ancestors that came from Sao Miguel to Hawaii and some of them are buried at St. Joseph's. Manuel (1850 -1933) and Maria Pereira (1954 - 1933) for one. Any possible connection? Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Periera, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10.44 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA Repost for Eric Gomes at gomes.ancestry at gmail.com Hi all, I have belonged to the group for about two months... And I have been reading the messages to try and understand the format before I send out my first reply/email/message... In otherwords I have a lot of questions etc., because my Azorean/Sao Miguel tree goes back three or four generation to the point that we know which boat most of my gg- grandparents travelled to Hawaii on. I am going to start with a question to Celeste. In the message below you mention the St. Joseph cemetery in Hayward. Where is that located?? I grew up in Hayward (and now live in Castro Valley) Thanks, Eric Gomes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. Joseph Cemetery in Hayward, CA
Shirley, The family that I have which are buried at St. Joseph's are: Manuel Pereira 1850-1933 and Joaquina Rosa Morgado Pereira 1854-1933 ( I mistyped below when I typed Maria). They are my gg grandparents. They arrived in Hawaii in Sept 1882 from Feteiras, Ponta Delgado, Sao Miguel on the Hansa. They came to the Oakland/Hayward area about 1898. Also buried in St. Joseph's in the same plot is one of their daughters Alexandrina and her husband Germano Silva. The other line which also came to Hawaii, also arrived in 1882. They arrived in June aboard the Monarch. They are the Fernandes' listed below. My Faial ancestors are from Cedros. That is my Medeiros line. My grandfather, Jose Medeiros and his parents Manuel Medeiros and Maria Machado came here in 1906. They arrived in Boston and then traveled by train to the Martinez, CA area where they settled and stayed. Manuel's parents were Antonio Francisco Medeiros and Maria Clara. I don't have the names of Maria Machado's parents yet. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel Ancestors of Manuel FERNANDES Generation 1 1. Manuel FERNANDES was born on 01 Aug 1878 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. He was the son of 2. Luiz M. FARNANDES and 3. Roza A. PACHECO. He died on 16 Aug 1909 in Dimond Canyon Quarry, Oakland, CA. He married Maria Augusta PEREIRA on 24 Jul 1904 in Oakland, CA, daughter of Manuel PEREIRA and Joaquina Rosa MORGADO. She was born on 29 Oct 1886 in Honolulu, Hawaii. She died on 21 Aug 1959 in Contra Costa Co., CA. Generation 2 2. Luiz M. FARNANDES was born on 20 Jun 1842 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. He was the son of 4. Jose de Medeiros FARNANDES and 5. Antonia Jacinta FURTADA. He died on 15 Sep 1905. He married Antonia de Jesus 3. Roza A. PACHECO was born 25 Jan 1857 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal, died 03 May 1938 in San Jose, Santa Clara, CA, married 29 Sep 1875 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. She was the daughter of 6. Jacinto PACHECO and 7. Maria dos Angos RAPOZA. Children of Luiz M. FARNANDES and Roza A. PACHECO are: + 1. i. Manuel FERNANDES was born 01 Aug 1878 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal, died 16 Aug 1909 in Dimond Canyon Quarry, Oakland, CA, married Maria Augusta PEREIRA 24 Jul 1904 in Oakland, CA. ii. Jose FERNANDES was born Abt. Feb 1882 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal[1], died Bef. 1910. Generation 3 4. Jose de Medeiros FARNANDES. He was the son of 8. Thome de Medeiros FARNANDES and 9. Felicia Roza ?. He married Antonia Jacinta FURTADA. 5. Antonia Jacinta FURTADA. She was the daughter of 10. Francisco FURTADO and 11. Laurianna de Jesus ?. Child of Jose de Medeiros FARNANDES and Antonia Jacinta FURTADA is: + 2. i. Luiz M. FARNANDES was born 20 Jun 1842 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal, died 15 Sep 1905, married Roza A. PACHECO 29 Sep 1875 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. 6. Jacinto PACHECO was born about Oct 1833 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal (Church = Senhora do Oliveria)[2]. He was the son of 12. Luis PACHECO and 13. Claudina de Jesus FERREIRA. He married Maria dos Angos RAPOZA on 28 Oct 1855 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal. 7. Maria dos Angos RAPOZA was born Abt. 1829 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal[2], married 28 Oct 1855 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal. She was the daughter of 14. Antonio Pereira RAPOZO and 15. Marianna de Jesus ?. Child of Jacinto PACHECO and Maria dos Angos RAPOZA is: + 3. i. Roza A. PACHECO was born 25 Jan 1857 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal, died 03 May 1938 in San Jose, Santa Clara, CA, married Luiz M. FARNANDES 29 Sep 1875 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal; married Manuel V. MIRANDA Azores-Island Unknown. Generation 4 8. Thome de Medeiros FARNANDES. He married Felicia Roza ?. 9. Felicia Roza ?. Child of Thome de Medeiros FARNANDES and Felicia Roza ? is: + 4. i. Jose de Medeiros FARNANDES. 10. Francisco FURTADO. He married Laurianna de Jesus ?. 11. Laurianna de Jesus ? was born Sao Miguel, Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel . Child of Francisco FURTADO and Laurianna de Jesus ? is: + 5. i. Antonia Jacinta FURTADA. 12. Luis PACHECO. He was the son of 24. Manoel PACHECO and 25. Maria Joaquina ?. He married Claudina de Jesus FERREIRA on 10 Feb 1833 in Fajã de Baixo, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal[3]. 13. Claudina de Jesus FERREIRA, married 10 Feb 1833 in Fajã de Baixo, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal[3]. She was the daughter of 26. Mathias Jose FERREIRA and 27. Suzana de Jesus ?. Child of Luis PACHECO and Claudina de Jesus FERREIRA is: + 6. i. Jacinto PACHECO was born Abt. Oct 1833 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal; Church = Senhora do Oliveria[2], married Maria dos Angos RAPOZA 28 Oct 1855 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal. 14. Antonio Pereira RAPOZO. He married Marianna de Jesus ?. 15. Marianna de Jesus ?, died Bef. Oct 1855.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records
Jeanetta, I wish there was a connection. I haven't found anyone with a connection yet. My Machados are from Faial. Maria Machado (1875-1942) married Manuel Medeiros (1875-1959). Maria and 3 children arrived in Boston in 1906 and traveled by train to Contra Costa County, California to meet Manuel who had come a few years prior and established their ranch. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeanetta Kovachevich Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:58 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records Jacki, I, too am researching Machado. Mine were born in altres, terceira, azores in 1881-84. Their names were Joaquin Vieira Machado and Marie Isabel Pinheiro. They married in Dec of 1901 and immigrated in July of 1902. They went first to Lowell (Stanton) Massachusettes where my grandmother Marie was born in 1903. I have found no record of her birth. They had several children who died shortly after birth. They moved to California and settled in Tulare, CA. He was a cattle buying and I believe that he had a brother, Arthur, who was a meat cutter?. They had 7 other children Wilhemina, Joaquin (Jack) Jr, Amelia, John, Zora, Virginia. Does any of this ring a bell with you? Jeanetta _ From: marra...@cs.com Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:53:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records To: azores@googlegroups.com In a message dated 3/31/2010 5:49:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gfsche...@gmail.com writes: Thanks for shedding some light on that! I knew that many people in the village probably knew who the father was, but it never dawned on me that the priest heard it in confession. Thanks for sharing. Boy, if only they had not been bound by the seal of the confessional...so many genealogical dead ends would have been solved! Happy Easter! John -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28 326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records
I have never actually seen a record like that but it doesn't surprise me that they would identify if it that way. My 3rd great grandmother according to family history was never allowed to actually marry my 3rd great grandfather because she was the result of a rape. Her mother ended up in the Azores due to a shipwreck and she was raped by one of the sailors. The catholic church labeled her (the baby) as unclean and would not allow the marriage. So they just lived together for 60 years and had 9 children. I've wondered how they would label her birth. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9.35 AM To: azores group Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records Greetings, I've been reading all of the baptisms for Topo for 1860...I've seen 2 unusual records that I've never seen before and wonder if anyone else has seen similar records. One of them says the birth is to a solteria and in parentheses it says (vulgar assault), the other says the woman was married but the child was due to adultery. I had often wondered if some of those roda babies were due to assault by pirates but the records never indicated it so since this one did I guess they do put it on the records. Has anyone ever seen other records in Sao Jorge such as these? Regards, Nancy Jean _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records
Nancy, Well, now that I am at home and looking at my tree, she is my great great grandmother, not my 3rd. I should never rely on my memory, I swear... She was born about 1860 but according to past family members, she was born on Faial. I haven't found any proof of that yet though. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:05 PM To: azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records Hi Jackie, That's an interesting story..sad, but interesting so 3rd grandmother.about what year was she born? I'm just curious because it seems odd to me that I've never seen these kinds of records before and I've read so many Sao Jorge records.the only other one that ever alluded to such was from 1872 in Rosais that said the child was from the crime of incest. Other than that they are all so similar regarding the births to single mothers. Regards, Nancy _ From: ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:24:56 -0700 I have never actually seen a record like that but it doesn't surprise me that they would identify if it that way. My 3rd great grandmother according to family history was never allowed to actually marry my 3rd great grandfather because she was the result of a rape. Her mother ended up in the Azores due to a shipwreck and she was raped by one of the sailors. The catholic church labeled her (the baby) as unclean and would not allow the marriage. So they just lived together for 60 years and had 9 children. I've wondered how they would label her birth. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9.35 AM To: azores group Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records Greetings, I've been reading all of the baptisms for Topo for 1860...I've seen 2 unusual records that I've never seen before and wonder if anyone else has seen similar records. One of them says the birth is to a solteria and in parentheses it says (vulgar assault), the other says the woman was married but the child was due to adultery. I had often wondered if some of those roda babies were due to assault by pirates but the records never indicated it so since this one did I guess they do put it on the records. Has anyone ever seen other records in Sao Jorge such as these? Regards, Nancy Jean _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 started. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn More. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_1 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records
I agree Rick. It could have been that. It also could be that the story has gotten skewed so-to-speak in the telling. So far, I haven't found her birth record. I will eventually though, I hope. Right now my focus is on my ancestors from Sao Miguel. She was from Faial. Hopefully, by the time I switch focus, Faial will have more records on line. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rfrancispimen...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:15 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records That seems kind of strange. I would suspect that the priest knew who the parents of your 3d great grandparents were and it was more of a matter of a close relation ship and they could not get a dispensation. If you could find her birth record it would be interesting. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jacki G. Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:25 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records I have never actually seen a record like that but it doesn't surprise me that they would identify if it that way. My 3rd great grandmother according to family history was never allowed to actually marry my 3rd great grandfather because she was the result of a rape. Her mother ended up in the Azores due to a shipwreck and she was raped by one of the sailors. The catholic church labeled her (the baby) as unclean and would not allow the marriage. So they just lived together for 60 years and had 9 children. I've wondered how they would label her birth. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9.35 AM To: azores group Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records Greetings, I've been reading all of the baptisms for Topo for 1860...I've seen 2 unusual records that I've never seen before and wonder if anyone else has seen similar records. One of them says the birth is to a solteria and in parentheses it says (vulgar assault), the other says the woman was married but the child was due to adultery. I had often wondered if some of those roda babies were due to assault by pirates but the records never indicated it so since this one did I guess they do put it on the records. Has anyone ever seen other records in Sao Jorge such as these? Regards, Nancy Jean _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists
Does anyone know where or if I can find passenger lists for ships sailing from Hawaii to San Francsico in 1892? I've looked on Ancestry and the only ones I could find start in 1893. I couldn't find anything for ships leaving Hawaii on the Hawaiian Archives site. In particular, I am looking for my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel and Joaquina Rosa Pereira (sometimes went by Perry) who arrived in Hawaii on the Hansa in 1882 and suposedly left there on Aug 17, 1892 on the SS Australia bound for San Francisco. I am trying to verify this as correct information. They had one child (Maria 2) with them when they arrived in Hawaii from Sao Miguel. They had six children with them when they left Hawaii. They settled in Oakland and stayed there until they both died a few months apart in 1933. The information that I have which was passed down by a cousin are just a hand written collection of names and dates. There are no copies of any documents or source information. There was a total of 11 children listed for them. Although there were only birthdates and places for 7. I have not been able to find them on any of the census' either. Which is strange because they should be in Oakland for the 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1930 census. Thanks in advance Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo, Furtado, Rapoza Islands: Faial Sao Miguel -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Machado, Domingos Moniz
I do have Machados, however they are on the side that is from Faial. We'll see what I can find. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lima Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:16 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Machado, Domingos Moniz Thanks, Jacki, I noticed you have Machados also. Can't wait for Saturday; maybe something will hit. Thank you so very much. maria elena On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Jacki G ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: Maria, I currently have the film for Faja de Cima and Faja de Baixo, Sao Miguel at the FHC here. I was planning on going there maybe this Sat. If not, the next Sat for sure. I'll look and see if I can find your Domingos Machado for you. Maybe I'll have more luck finding your person than I have had finding mine. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lima Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:29 PM To: azores Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Machado, Domingos Moniz Dear Listers, I'm just hoping someone might have a microfilm from Sao Miguel at the FHC from a parish I haven't researched. Domingos Moniz Machado was born in Sao Miguel 8 February 1874. I've searched the freguesias (parishes of: Apostolo de Sao Pedro, Sao Jose and most recently Sao Sebastao (Matrix). I was so sure he would be in Sao Sebastao but was very disappointed when I didn't find him there Now, I ask you where do I go next? I know he had a brother named Clement (Clemencio? sp?) who changed his last name to Marshall. They went to Boston. I need to find their parents or syblings to do any more research on this line and hope someone can help me. Maybe someone has a microfilm on file from any parish in Sao Miguel and could see if he was in that parish. please? His parents were Emilia Moniz and Jacintho Machado Any help would be heavenly Thanks Maria Elena -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question
Type O and type A are the most prevalent blood types in all countries. It is the same for Azoreans. In fact someone with type O- is considered to be a universal donor with only a few rare exceptions. O+ can be given to people with A+, B+, AB+ and O+, but O- can be given to the other blood types + or - without causing problems. While everyone who is able, should donate blood, people with an O or rare blood type are especially needed as blood donors. As for the RH factor (the + or -); Everyone has two genes that determine your RH. One from each parent. Positive is the dominant gene. If one or both of a person's genes are positive they are positive. Which is why more people are positive. Both genes have to be negative for you to have a negative RH. Nancy, your family is a perfect example. Your father had to have had one positive gene and one negative gene and your mother has two negative genes. That one positive gene being dominant was passed on to 4 of his 6 children while only 2 managed to get a double negative from him. While I think that we a special in so many ways...;) I don't think that we Azoreans are any more likely to have rare blood types or a certain RH factor than any other race. Statistically, we have basically the same ratios as everyone else. For myself, I am very glad to have the most common blood type on the planet (O+). In case I ever need it, it won't be hard to find. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:54 AM To: azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question This is interesting in my opinion..after Lisa's first email I looked on line at sites regarding rh- factor..ALL kinds of information..but now I'm curious about the blood types among Azoreans.I'm also 100% Azorean Portuguesemy dad was A+ and my mom is O-all 6 children have type A blood..only myself and my youngest sister have RH-.I wonder if type A is prevelant among our population? Also.this is the kind of information I was looking at (DNA) online several years ago when I came across this group.what a fortunate find! Regards, Nancy Santa Maria...Cabral Sao Jorge.Silveira, de Lemos, Baptista, Pereira, Pedrosa, Enos, Oliveira Pico...de Castro, Cardosa, Peixoto, Furtado, Silva _ From: patli...@verizon.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:38:25 -0400 I'm all Portuguese and I'm A+ like my mom and my father is 0+ as my brother. I remember my aunt and uncle both all Portugues being RH _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lisa lema Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 7:32 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question Good morning all. I am hoping someone here will be able to answer this question for me, as it is pertains to 4 of my 9 living children. What Percentage of people of Portuguese ethnicity is RH -? I have just found out, due to the pregnancy of my daughter that she is RH- and due to her father's ethnicity, is very doubtful that negative factor came from his genetics. While I am on the subject, I suppose I ought to explain a little more. I have 9 living children, 7 girls, 2 boys. I have been married twice, and from the first union, I had 2 girls, one of which is o- rh factor; I lived with a man and had one female child with him, whom is also rh - (a-), and then married my current husband and we had 6 more children, 2 of which (girls) are also rh-( one is O- one is A-). My mother is Swedish, scottish, indian and my father is full blooded portuguese. my mother blood type is O + , my fathers blood type is A+, and mine is A+. from the research I have done,it is extremely rare for native american, black, and scottish peoples to carry the rh negative factor, but a race of people called BASQUES have a very high rate of rh negative blood. Is the Portuguese race considered Basque? and What is the ratio of negative blood type in the Portuguese Race? Any help in this matter would be appreciated. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2747 - Release Date: 03/14/10 15:33:00 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] [AZORES-Genealogy Dna Question
Lisa, Rather than a lengthy explanation here, I found a link for you that has a really great explanation of how the +/- RH factor works. Besides, it's been a long time since I studied this in school. http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/uvahealth/peds_hrpregnant/rhdiseas.cfm http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/uvahealth/peds_hrpregnant/rhdiseas.cfm I also found the chart below which shows the percentages by country. I looks to me like the portuguese people have just about the same ratio of negative RH as everyone else. I think after you look at the link above, you will understand better how she came to be RH negative. ABO and Rh distribution by country ABO and Rh blood type distribution by nation (population averages) Country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type# ↓ Population http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-16 [17] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type# ↓ O+ http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Blood_type# ↓ A+ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type# ↓ B+ http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Blood_type# ↓ AB+ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type# ↓ O- http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Blood_type# ↓ A- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type# ↓ B- http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Blood_type# ↓ AB- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type# ↓ Australia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-17 [18]21, 262,641 40% 31% 8% 2% 9% 7% 2% 1% Austria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-18 [19] 8,210,28130% 33% 12% 6% 7% 8% 3% 1% Belgium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-19 [20] 10, 414,336 38% 34% 8.5%4.1%7% 6% 1.5%0.8% Brazil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-20 [21] 198,739,269 36% 34% 8% 2.5%9% 8% 2% 0.5% Canada http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-21 [22] 33, 487,208 39% 36% 7.6%2.5%7% 6% 1.4%0.5% Denmark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-22 [23] 5,500,51035% 37% 8% 4% 6% 7% 2% 1% Estonia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-23 [24] 1,299,37130% 31% 20% 6% 4.5%4.5%3% 1% Finland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-24 [25] 5,250,27527% 38% 15% 7% 4% 6% 2% 1% France http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-25 [26] 62, 150,775 36% 37% 9% 3% 6% 7% 1% 1% Germany http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-26 [27] 82, 329,758 35% 37% 9% 4% 6% 6% 2% 1% Hong Kong SAR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-27 [28] 7,055,07140% 26% 27% 7% 0.31% 0.19% 0.14% 0.05% Iceland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-28 [29] 306,694 47.6% 26.4% 9.3%1.6%8.4%4.6%1.7%0.4% India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-29 [30] 1,166,079,21736.5% 22.1% 30.9% 6.4%2.0%0.8%1.1% 0.2% Ireland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-30 [31] 4,203,20047% 26% 9% 2% 8% 5% 2% 1% Israel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-31 [32] 7,233,70132% 34% 17% 7% 3% 4% 2% 1% Netherlands http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-32 [33] 16, 715,999 39.5% 35% 6.7%2.5%7.5%7% 1.3%0.5% New Zealand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-33 [34] 4,213,41838% 32% 9% 3% 9% 6% 2% 1% Norway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-34 [35] 4,660,53934% 42.5% 6.8%3.4%6% 7.5%1.2% 0.6% Poland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-35 [36] 38, 482,919 31% 32% 15% 7% 6% 6% 2% 1% Portugal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-36 [37] 10, 707,924 36.2% 39.8% 6.6%2.9%6.0%6.6%1.1%0.5% Saudi Arabia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-37 [38] 28,686,633 48% 24% 17% 4% 4% 2% 1% 0.23% South Africa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-38 [39] 49,320,000 39% 32% 12% 3% 7% 5% 2% 1% Spain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-39 [40]40, 525,002 36% 34% 8% 2.5%9% 8% 2% 0.5% Sweden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-40 [41] 9,059,65132% 37% 10% 5% 6% 7% 2% 1% Turkey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-41 [42] 76, 805,524 29.8% 37.8% 14.2% 7.2%3.9%4.7%1.6%0.8% United Kingdom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type#cite_note-42 [43] 61,113,205 37% 35%
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding ancestor records
Celeste, That's a great example. It makes me wonder if my grandfather's birthday was actually Dec 26th. He too was born the day after Christmas. He was born on Faial in 1898. I haven't been able to find his birth record yet. I will keep this in mind when I finally get access to the records. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of celeste perry Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:31 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding ancestor records Atina, I hope this helps you. Finding people and dates in Portugal and the Azores has, for me, been a wild ride. I will give you an example that, I hope, helps you get beyond thinking you KNOW anything about ancestors. I was raised in my maternal grandparents' house. They were immigrants, he from the continent of Portugal, she from Terceira. I KNEW where they were born. I had heard the name of the places and the dates since I could understand what they were saying. My grandfather was born in Ligares, Tras-os-Montes, in northern Portugal on the day after Christmas and he was __ (fill in the blank for his age). We always celebrated his birthday on December 26th, the day after christmas. In 1989, I went to Ligares, did not find the records there; went to Freixo Espida a Cinta (sp?), the County, did not find the record there and ended in Braganca, the district. Records are kept in these various places depending on how long ago they were made. The point of this is that my grandfather was born on January 7, 1876, according to his baptismal record. This date made no sense to me because the day after christmas is December 26th if you live in the US. In Portugal, at that time, Natal/christmas, was celebrated the day the three kings visited the Christ child. Here, in the US, grandpa's information was translated to what we knew and not what was the norm in Portugal at the time of his birth. Hope this helps you look in more places when you reach a brick wall and gives you a different understanding of time frames when looking for records. Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Atina Marks atina.ma...@bigpond.com wrote: From: Atina Marks atina.ma...@bigpond.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Emanuel Marks To: azo...@googlegroups. com azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 8:45 PM Thank you to all who helped translate the Baptism Record for Emanuel Marks. Now I need to ask if my Emanuel Antonio Marks is the one in the baptism record? My Emanuel stated he was born on the 10th May 1855, could he have known his correct birth date? The names don't seem to match his names. Any help is appreciated, thank you once again. Many kind regards to all, Atina Marks (Brisbane, Australia) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Language Course in Azores
Boy, I would so love to be able to do that But until I win the lottery or some rich relative leaves me money, I'm stuck in the US. But thanks for letting me fantasize about it though. Jacki Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Teixeira Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:00 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Language Course in Azores Has anyone here take this Portuguese Language Course in the Azores? It's at Escola Profissional das Velas, on Sao Jorge. This year the 3 week Portuguese language immersion course is planned for July 1-20. Besides class study, they also do a lot of siteseeing, on 4 islands, and actually meet speak with the local people. Here's a link to the site, with information. I just wondered if anyone here had participated, what they had to say about it. And thought, maybe others might be interested able to participate this year. It seems to be a small class, but I think it'd be a great way to see the Islands on a first visit, and connect with people also doing genealogy. http://www.study-portuguese-abroad.com/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] death notice
George, I'm so sorry to hear of your brother's passing. Myself and my family will keep you and your family in our hearts and prayers. Blessings The Gentry Family Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of George Pacheco Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:34 PM To: Azores-Gen Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] death notice Hi everyone Just wanted to let you know that my oldest brother Antonio passed away of a heart attack at 1 AM Sunday morning azorean time or 9PM Satuday Eastern time Antonio was going to be 70 he is my oldest sybling from both of my parents time--he was a taxi Driver in Furnashad his own cab if you ever got a ride in a taxi in the azores fom a man who had a white beard like Santa Claus . It was my brother Antonio. George Pacheco -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] A-File Results - Anyone have this problem?
Be aware that you may not get the names of parents from the SSDI either. I just got one for my grandfather a couple of months ago and it had nothing more than his basic personal info like name, address, age, etc. and that he was from the Azores. It wasn't even a full 8.5 x 11 size paper. It was only a half sheet. It was a waste of $27. That's the way it goes sometimes so you need to be aware. Jacki -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E Sharp Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11.31 AM To: Azores@googlegroups.com; ttcost...@aol.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A-File Results - Anyone have this problem? Have you already posted to the list who exactly this Manuel Costa is that you are looking for? When was he born? Died? Wife's name, children, where they settled in the US? Maybe I can find him on a ship's manifest which might lead us to his Passportes from the Azores. Anything else you might know about them. Are you a subscriber to Ancestry.com ($300 a year for international records - I ask this so we will not be looking up records you have already researched.) Many of us belong to Ancestry and will be more than happy to do some research for you. Also, what exactly are you looking for about the family? I am not to busy these days and will gladly do some research for youas long as my local Cable cooperates...it seems they are having some difficulties today. Seems to me you got ripped off - that's a lot of money for no information. I would contact them again and ask why the Index search shows one thing and they only sent you minimal information but as I told you, I sent for my aunt's and it was a total bust. Did you send for his SSDI (if he qualified) records. That costs $27 if you have the number $29, I believe, if you do not and it, at least, most times, shows names of parents and place of birth--almost always Azores and nothing more. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Miguel Birth and Marriage Records
Cheri, Thank you. I know they are from Faja de Cima, Ponta Delgado. Is Faja de Cima the village? If not, will I still be able to find it with that much information. JC _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:38 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Miguel Birth and Marriage Records JC, Most of Sao Miguel is filmed up to about 1883 or so. There are gaps in certain freguesias (villages). You can go to the Family History Library Catalog (FHLC) online or to your FHC to order the film for your village for the 1870s. Depending on how the roll is put together, you may have baptism and marriages on the same roll. If it's a larger freguesia though, that's not as likely. Since you have the exact date of the birth, I'd order the baptism film. Once you think you find the record you can scan it and send it to the list for help with translation. If you're learning to read the records though, I'd try to find all the siblings (up to the 1883ish cut off) for practice in reading the Portuguese. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Miguel Birth and Marriage Records
Cheri, Thank you so much. That helps a lot. Not only in finding these particular records but it also helps me understand better how the process works and what to look for. That kind of help is boundless in it's usefulness. Before I started on this branch of my family all my research has been in the US back to the late 1600's then back to Scottland. This research is definitely a whole different ball of wax. When you are looking through these films, is it the names that you are visually scanning the documents for first? While I don't speak Portuguese yet, I do recognize the names of the months, some of the key words and some of the abbreviations for first and last names. JC _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10.23 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Miguel Birth and Marriage Records Hi JC, Yes, here's the way it's organized: Freguesia/village: Faja de Cima Council (county): Ponta Delgada Island: Sao Miguel Archipelago: Azores County: Portugal For my record keeping, my personal would be Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores. There's only 1 Faja de Cima, so stating the council (which is also a city) is not necessary in my book. And I figure if some relative found my research and they had no idea that they were part Azorean, and that they are part of Portugal, well, then they need a map and a talk with grandma. But I like to simplify and streamline things as much of possible, as that's more of my style. Others would argue to add other things. The FHLC (direct link and good to bookmark): http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp There's more than one way to do this. Here's mine: I chose Place Search. Place: Faja de Cima Part of: Portugal Click on the blue link on the next page. Then on the next page after that, chose the top one (Church Records). Next page click the Parish Registers (blue words). As you see they filmed Faja de Cima up to 1879. Most of Sao Miguel was up to 1883ish and you wound up with the ish. Click the upper right button that says View Film Notes. You may want to print out the next page and take it with you to your FHC. For your 1877 birth, you'd order Batismos 1867-1879, film 1330541. You're lucky that Faja de Cima is small. The marriages from 1837-1879 are also film 1330541. So that is the only film you need at the moment. I haven't ordered film in a while, so I'm unsure how long it takes to come in. Hope this helps. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Amelia Candida Enos
I don't know if this will be of any help to any of you looking for Enos' but back in the late 1920's through 1950's or so Bay Point, Ca (Contra Costa County) was known as Enes Tract. Most of the people in that area were from the Azores. My mother was born there. She is a Medeiros. The Enes' built most of the homes there, which is why it was called that. I don't know all of their names but there was Christopher (my brother's godfather), Albert and Bernard. I know the name is spelled a little different but that happens sometimes. There is a street there in Bay Point named Enes Street. There were a number of other portuguese families there also. The one's I can remember are: Evora, Dutra, Medeiros, Mendonsa, Pereira, Alvernaz, Azevedo and of course Enes. It was a small community made up of a few streets with houses and a number of large ranches. The last ranch to be sold to make way for new housing was the Alvernaz ranch which was sold about 8 or 9 years ago and became the San Marcos housing tract adjacent to highway 4. Like I said, I don't know if this info is helpful at all but I thought I would throw it out there just in case. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9.17 AM To: azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Amelia Candida Enos Hi Al and Marek, I also have Enos family. This name has been very mysterious but very important to my family. I still haven't discovered why though. My Ggrandfather, Joseph Victorino, came from Sao Jorge in the late 1880's to New Bedford. In the 1900 census he used the name Joseph Enos, his marriage papers have 2 different names listed on the civil and parish records.one gives his father as Thomazo Veira and the other says Thomazo Oliveira.he never used either of those names. In the 1910 census he had changed his named to Victorino..the odd part is that my ggrandmother, Francisca Rosa de Lemos always gave her name as Frances Enos and they named my grandmother, Clara Enos Victorino..so it was an important name to them but I have no idea why! To further confuse the issue my Mom said that the story went that when he came over the immigration people changed his name from Jose Bettencourt to Jose Victorino..I've looked for the name in the Sao Jorge records...Enos that is and for any man named Thomazo married to an Ana Joaquina.but have found nothing. Regards, Nancy Jean Baptista _ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:36:23 -0800 From: marekdelacr...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Amelia Candida Enos To: azores@googlegroups.com Thanks Al...thats encouraging isn't it? Ha Ha _ From: Alvin Goularte agoula...@sbcglobal.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 2:04:25 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Amelia Candida Enos Hi, I have tried to research Enos in the Azores with no luck. I was told that Enos was not the correct spelling and that it could be spelled several different ways - Inacio, Ignacio, Eanes, Eanas- I was given 8 or 9 variations most of which I can't remember. I had that information in my cmputer at one time but lost it to a virus that hit my computer several years ago. My Enos was from Pico. Al _ From: Marek Delacroix marekdelacr...@yahoo.com To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 2:15:54 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Amelia Candida Enos Does anyone have any info on Amelia Candida Enos?? She was born about 1844 most likely in Flores. She married Joseph Francis Brio, where at unknown. They ended-up in Yreka, Siskiyou county, Calif where Amelia died in 1915. Any info would be greatly appreciated. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ now. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unknown location in Sao Miguel
Margaret, That does have some familiarity. Her husband was born in Faja de Cima. He arrived in the US via Hawaii in 1882 when he was 7. It's always possible that their families were friends. I don't know when she came to the US yet. This might be a clue as to where to look for that JC _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Vicente Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 11.38 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unknown location in Sao Miguel Hi JC There is a place in Sao Miguel called Fajã it sounds just like the written word you show Feigao. Now to add to the mix; there are 3 of them in S.Miguel. a) Fajã do Calhau located in the Agua Retorta village b) Fajã de Baixo and Fajã de Cima located just of few Kilometres north of Ponta Delgada. Item b) it's just one territory divided in 2 villages which by the name means one above (Cima) the other below (de Baixo). Hope this might be of some help. Margaret Vicente On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM, JC ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: Hi Everybody, Hopefully someone out there can help me with this. On my g grandmother's death certificate, it says that her and her parents place of birth was Feigao, Sao Miguel. I cannot find any kind of reference to any place by this name. That of course doesn't mean it doesn't or didn't exist. Especially since I am so new to looking for my portuguese roots outside the US. Have any of you heard of this place or know how I can find out more about it? Thanks in advance for your help. Merry Christmas JC -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unknown location in Sao Miguel
Cheri, She was born 1/25/1859 in the Azores and died 5/3/1938 in San Jose, CA. I don't know if she ever became a citizen or not or whether or not she had any siblings. The person giving the information was my grandmother's sister who was raised by her from about the age of 4. I have very little information on this branch. Her son (my g grandfather) was killed in 1909 in Oakland, CA when my grandmother was 2. When he was killed my g grandmother gave my great aunt (age 4) to her to raise and kept my grandmother. She soon remarried and there was little contact after that. The only info I was ever told by my grandmother was that her father was born on Sao Miguel and his name. She didn't even know her grandmother's first name. JC _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10.49 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unknown location in Sao Miguel JC, It's really, really butchered (but you already knew that). You're going to have to find more records on this ancestor. What year did she die? Was she a citizen of the US? If your searches on her don't turn up a less butchered freguesia/village/town, you will have to chase her siblings down. What do their death certificates say? A list of Sao Miguel freguesias are here: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/saomiguel.html The closest I can think of (and it's not close) is Lagoa or maybe Rosto do Cao, but the syllables aren't even right. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
Wow Eric! Thank you so much! I would never have been able to find that on my own. If not for any other reason, I don't speak/read portuguese. (Yet anyway. I'm working to fix that) I don't have to tell you how incredible it feels when these discoveries are made. Also thank you for the info for the FHC in Oakland. I should be able to have the FHC in Concord order it so I don't have to drive so far. If not, it'll be a road trip to Oak. Thank you Again Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10.42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Jacki, Here is the passport out of Ponta Delgada for this family. Luiz Fernades is at line 347. This what I get from it. Lots of abbreviations, not certain. Hope some others offer their thoughts. It's the parents names I'm unsure of. Luiz Fernandes for parents- father - Jose Mattos Fernandes mother-Antonia Jacinta age of applicant - 39 years Concelho- PD for Ponta Degada Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima Occupation- Campones- peasant persons traveling with- Rosa de Jesus, 25 years , Manuel 4 years, Jose , 6 months number of people traveling-4 Eric Edgar On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Iris Bilodeau irisca...@yahoo.com wrote: Aloha Jacki, This is what I have on page 220: #204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40. Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao Miguel. With wife Roza de Jesus age 25. Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months. Hope this helps Jacki. Iris Cabral Bilodeau. --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM Iris, If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880 and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Iris Bilodeau Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii. Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. 1993. If anyone has names you want me to look up, let me know. Iris Cabral Bilodeau --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM Jacki, Pd. is not a code for that column. It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na) for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien. Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of eyes can take a look? You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
Eric, Do you or does anyone else know what this means? Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima It translates as Clientele from above Faja Would that be where he worked? Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10.42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Jacki, Here is the passport out of Ponta Delgada for this family. Luiz Fernades is at line 347. This what I get from it. Lots of abbreviations, not certain. Hope some others offer their thoughts. It's the parents names I'm unsure of. Luiz Fernandes for parents- father - Jose Mattos Fernandes mother-Antonia Jacinta age of applicant - 39 years Concelho- PD for Ponta Degada Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima Occupation- Campones- peasant persons traveling with- Rosa de Jesus, 25 years , Manuel 4 years, Jose , 6 months number of people traveling-4 Eric Edgar On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Iris Bilodeau irisca...@yahoo.com wrote: Aloha Jacki, This is what I have on page 220: #204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40. Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao Miguel. With wife Roza de Jesus age 25. Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months. Hope this helps Jacki. Iris Cabral Bilodeau. --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM Iris, If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880 and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Iris Bilodeau Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii. Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. 1993. If anyone has names you want me to look up, let me know. Iris Cabral Bilodeau --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM Jacki, Pd. is not a code for that column. It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na) for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien. Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of eyes can take a look? You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
Iris, Thank you, that was really nice of you. I have been trying to find Luiz on a census but no luck so far. I don't know how long they stayed there before moving onto California. He could have only been on either 1890 or 1900 because he and his son Manuel (my g grandfather) were dead by the time the 1910 census happened. I found Roza and Manuels wife and daughters in 1910 in Oakland, CA. I know that Manuel was killed 8/16/09 in a quarry explosion but I have no idea so far what happened to Luiz and when. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Iris Bilodeau Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Jacki, I called Doris Naumu and she said all the ships that sailed Portuguese to Hawaii landed first on Oahu. They had to be cleared before they were let on shore. Smaller boats took on immigrants to other islands. Iris Nevada City, CA searching Sao Miguel, Cabral, Oliveira --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 12:14 PM Eric, Do you or does anyone else know what this means? Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima It translates as Clientele from above Faja Would that be where he worked? Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10.42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Jacki, Here is the passport out of Ponta Delgada for this family. Luiz Fernades is at line 347. This what I get from it. Lots of abbreviations, not certain. Hope some others offer their thoughts. It's the parents names I'm unsure of. Luiz Fernandes for parents- father - Jose Mattos Fernandes mother-Antonia Jacinta age of applicant - 39 years Concelho- PD for Ponta Degada Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima Occupation- Campones- peasant persons traveling with- Rosa de Jesus, 25 years , Manuel 4 years, Jose , 6 months number of people traveling-4 Eric Edgar On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Iris Bilodeau irisca...@yahoo.com http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=irisca...@yahoo.com wrote: Aloha Jacki, This is what I have on page 220: #204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40. Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao Miguel. With wife Roza de Jesus age 25. Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months. Hope this helps Jacki. Iris Cabral Bilodeau. --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ja...@cdmmarketing.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii To: azores@googlegroups.com http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM Iris, If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880 and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Iris Bilodeau Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii. Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. 1993. If anyone has names you want me to look up, let me know. Iris Cabral Bilodeau --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gfsche
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
Eric, Thank you. That definitely makes more sense. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:43 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Jacki, This where the family is from. When you order films at the FHC this the place to look for. In Faja Cima the church records are for Nossa Senhora da Olveira. A concelho is like a county, a group of towns. A fregusia is the town . Faja means fan but refers to the fan shaped area built up by eroding soil. This gives a flat place to farm and/or build houses. It's commonly seen as a place name all over the Azores. ( Faja Grande, Fajazinha,Faja do Joao Dias, Faja dos Cubres) So it would be the top or upper faja. Faja de Cima, is next to Faja de Baixo, the lower, bottom, or at the base. Here is a map from Doug Holmes Portuguese Geneaolgy Master list site. You can look through the postings there to see if others are researching this family also. http://www.dholmes.com/master-list/azores/ponta-delgada.html Eric On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: Eric, Do you or does anyone else know what this means? Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima It translates as Clientele from above Faja Would that be where he worked? Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10.42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Jacki, Here is the passport out of Ponta Delgada for this family. Luiz Fernades is at line 347. This what I get from it. Lots of abbreviations, not certain. Hope some others offer their thoughts. It's the parents names I'm unsure of. Luiz Fernandes for parents- father - Jose Mattos Fernandes mother-Antonia Jacinta age of applicant - 39 years Concelho- PD for Ponta Degada Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima Occupation- Campones- peasant persons traveling with- Rosa de Jesus, 25 years , Manuel 4 years, Jose , 6 months number of people traveling-4 Eric Edgar On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Iris Bilodeau irisca...@yahoo.com wrote: Aloha Jacki, This is what I have on page 220: #204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40. Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao Miguel. With wife Roza de Jesus age 25. Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months. Hope this helps Jacki. Iris Cabral Bilodeau. --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM Iris, If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880 and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Iris Bilodeau Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii. Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. 1993. If anyone has names you want me to look up, let me know. Iris Cabral Bilodeau --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM Jacki, Pd. is not a code for that column. It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na) for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien. Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of eyes can take a look? You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
Cheri, Well that would make sense. They are listed as illegible when you search for them but here are the details: Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. State: California County: CONTRA COSTA Browse Description: TWP. 16 Enumeration District: 7-56 Description: TWP. 16 AND BAY POINT, NICHOLS, AND CLYDE VILLAGES Sheet Number: 3A They are house # 50 Josef Medeiros (his name was really Jose) Mary Medeiros Lorraine Medeiros Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8.55 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records Jacki, Pd. is not a code for that column. It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na) for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien. Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of eyes can take a look? You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
Iris, If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880 and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Iris Bilodeau Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii. Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. 1993. If anyone has names you want me to look up, let me know. Iris Cabral Bilodeau --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM Jacki, Pd. is not a code for that column. It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na) for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien. Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of eyes can take a look? You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
Cheri, He actually immigrated in 1906. He arrived in Boston on 8/6/1906 headed for Martinez, CA. So, yes, he was here for the 1910 census. He would have been in the Martinez area for both 1910 and 1920. Which is about 15 miles west of where he was in the 1930 census. In 1920 he would have still been living with his parents. He didn't marry until 1925. His parents names were Manuel and Mary/Maria Medeiros and he had a brother named Manuel and two sisters, Mary/Maria and Lizzy (Alice). Lizzy was born in Martinez. The others were all born in the Azores. Thank you for clarifying his citizenship status Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1.23 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records Jacki, I ran it through Ancestry with no problem. They have him indexed as Medeiros. The census says he immigrated in 1910 and he has filed his papers to become a citizen. Where was Jose in 1920 and was he in America for the 1910 census (census day was Apr. 15th 1910)? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
Mahalo Iris That does help. It gives me an approximate year of birth for Luiz and Jose. I haven't been able yet to find Luiz on any census and I didn't know that Jose existed before two days ago. Do you know if that would that be the island of Ohau where they arrived? Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Iris Bilodeau Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2.18 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Aloha Jacki, This is what I have on page 220: #204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40. Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao Miguel. With wife Roza de Jesus age 25. Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months. Hope this helps Jacki. Iris Cabral Bilodeau. --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com wrote: From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM Iris, If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880 and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo Islands: Faial Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Iris Bilodeau Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii. Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. 1993. If anyone has names you want me to look up, let me know. Iris Cabral Bilodeau --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM Jacki, Pd. is not a code for that column. It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na) for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien. Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of eyes can take a look? You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
The 1930 census says what looks like Pd. I am assuming that that may mean pending. I was able to find the manifest of the ship that he arrived on last night and there is a notation on it with a date of April 1938. Another researcher told me that was made by the immigration dept. My mother keeps saying that she thought is was in the late twenties but I called my aunt last night and she said she thought she was around 12 when he became a citizen and she was born in 1927. That would be right in line with the 1938 notation. She also said they had to go to San Francisco for it. There is a regional center in San Bruno which is about 15 miles south so I guess I will start there. The strange thing though, is, I have a copy of his application for a Soc Sec. number. He did that in Dec 1936. How would he have gotten a number if he wasn't a citizen yet? Maybe they didn't actually issue it until 1938? Thanks for the help Jacki _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rfrancispimen...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5.35 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records Hi Jacki, First check the 1930 US Census to see if he was a Citizen. If he was then depending on where he lived the court that had jurisdiction at the time would have the records. Many immigrants did not apply for citizenship until the late 1930's when social security was started. At that time you had to be a US citizen to get social security. Citizen ship records could be in a state district court such as records for Attleboro, MA up till the 1940's were kept at the Taunton district Court and then transferred to the State Archives in Boston. Later records in the 1950's were done in Federal courts and are now in the Federal Archives in Waltham MA. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -Original Message- From: azores+ow...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores+ow...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jacki G. Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:18 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records First, thank you all for the ideas. Rick, How would I go about finding his petition? My mother says she thinks it was somewhere around 1926 but she's not sure. The only absolute was that he was living in California in the San Francisco Bay Area at the time. The family had his birth certificate from Faial at one point, but since his and my grandmother's deaths, no one knows where it went or remembers how it was obtained. I have never seen it as it was lost long before I started my research unfortunately. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Family names: Medeiros, Machado, Pacheco, Perreira, Fernandes _ From: azores+ow...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores+ow...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rfrancispimen...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5.29 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records Hi Jacki If your grandfather was Naturalized then his Petition for Naturalization would provide a wealth of information as to his arrival in the US. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -Original Message- From: azores+ow...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores+ow...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:20 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records Jacki, You will need to check the Boston arrivals as well as the Ellis Island arrivals. More info on how to do that can be found here: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html (Scroll down to Passenger Arrival Lists.) Records from the Azores are starting to come online, but nothing from Faial yet. Once you exhaust your U.S. sources, you might consider hiring a researcher to look at the port of Horta, Faial, in their ships lists leaving the Azores. A list of researchers for hire can be found here: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html#researchers Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
First, thank you all for the ideas. Rick, How would I go about finding his petition? My mother says she thinks it was somewhere around 1926 but she's not sure. The only absolute was that he was living in California in the San Francisco Bay Area at the time. The family had his birth certificate from Faial at one point, but since his and my grandmother's deaths, no one knows where it went or remembers how it was obtained. I have never seen it as it was lost long before I started my research unfortunately. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Family names: Medeiros, Machado, Pacheco, Perreira, Fernandes _ From: azores+ow...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores+ow...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rfrancispimen...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5.29 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records Hi Jacki If your grandfather was Naturalized then his Petition for Naturalization would provide a wealth of information as to his arrival in the US. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -Original Message- From: azores+ow...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores+ow...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:20 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records Jacki, You will need to check the Boston arrivals as well as the Ellis Island arrivals. More info on how to do that can be found here: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html (Scroll down to Passenger Arrival Lists.) Records from the Azores are starting to come online, but nothing from Faial yet. Once you exhaust your U.S. sources, you might consider hiring a researcher to look at the port of Horta, Faial, in their ships lists leaving the Azores. A list of researchers for hire can be found here: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html#researchers Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
