Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR Snowy Egret - RFI

[Laurie Michelman]

The snowy egret hung around until dusk last night, then flew to the north. With today’s nice weather, perhaps it will stick around. It has been seen down by the spillway, across the river and the gull tree across from the main pool. I understand it has been quite active. When I was there later yesterday it flew around three areas. If you go and don’t see it, check on the rocks by the spillway or across the river. -LaurieSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 15, 2023, at 3:49 PM, Jay McGowan  wrote:The SNOWY EGRET was present early this morning in the same area, along the rocky shore of the river just at the mouth of the main pool outflow/spillway ("carp spot") along the drive. It was reported this afternoon from the same area on eBird as well. Other highlights from a quick morning trip were 50 Dunlin and two White-rumped Sandpipers in the flooded (and mostly frozen) fields on Armitage Road, and a single HUDSONIAN GODWIT on the ice at Knox-Marsellus.JayOn Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 3:41 PM John Gregoire  wrote:We went up today and the Snowy was a no-show as we checked the expected areas. Lots if birders. A terrific selection of waterfowl made the trip worthwhile.John and SueOn Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 10:57 AM Suan Hsi Yong  wrote:Photos were posted to the Facebook group "Birds of Montezuma National
Wildlife Refuge" by Bob and Diane Slater on Monday, November 13, at
6:30pm. A comment says "it flew in front of us around 4:30 pm, in the
dead tree near the Eagle tree".

The post URL is
https://www.facebook.com/groups/172217523476266/posts/1688992451798758/
but I think it's only visible to members of that group.

Suan


On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 9:16 PM Dave Nutter  wrote:
>
> Today I learned of - and eventually saw - a regionally rare Snowy Egret along the Wildlife Drive at Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge.
>
> I first learned of it from a text rare bird alert from Mark Miller at 10:25am that it was “last seen at Seneca Flats,” but I wondered about Mark’s use of passive voice and the lack of any picture from this avid photographer. As I prepared to look for the bird there was not yet any eBird report from Mark either.
>
> But there was an eBird report from earlier this morning by David Kennedy, who takes gorgeous photos and seems to either find, re-find, or document most of the rarities around Montezuma. He included 5 pictures with the comment that it was “Feeding along east shore of Seneca Flats,” and in this case it was a re-find because he said it was “seen and photographed by Bob S. yesterday.”
>
> This appears to be the first documented record of Snowy Egret in the Cayuga Lake Basin this year, and as I try to maintain First Records records list, I’m looking for some help. Who is Bob S? Can I find the photo and record of his sighting? Where did he see it? At this point I’m not trying to verify the ID, I’m just looking for the standard information and credit that I include on the list.
>
> Today, thanks to text rare bird alert messages, several additional people saw this small, active egret at various places along the Wildlife Drive’s first straightaway, and the adjacent Seneca River. Generally it progressed north from Seneca Flats. It’s hard to say where it will be tomorrow, but I hope that, if it sticks around in publicly accessible places, folks continue to share its whereabouts so others can see this beautiful bird.
>
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR Snowy Egret - RFI

[Jay McGowan]

The SNOWY EGRET was present early this morning in the same area, along the
rocky shore of the river just at the mouth of the main pool
outflow/spillway ("carp spot") along the drive. It was reported this
afternoon from the same area on eBird as well. Other highlights from a
quick morning trip were 50 Dunlin and two White-rumped Sandpipers in the
flooded (and mostly frozen) fields on Armitage Road, and a single HUDSONIAN
GODWIT on the ice at Knox-Marsellus.

Jay

On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 3:41 PM John Gregoire 
wrote:

> We went up today and the Snowy was a no-show as we checked the expected
> areas. Lots if birders. A terrific selection of waterfowl made the trip
> worthwhile.
> John and Sue
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 10:57 AM Suan Hsi Yong 
> wrote:
>
>> Photos were posted to the Facebook group "Birds of Montezuma National
>> Wildlife Refuge" by Bob and Diane Slater on Monday, November 13, at
>> 6:30pm. A comment says "it flew in front of us around 4:30 pm, in the
>> dead tree near the Eagle tree".
>>
>> The post URL is
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/172217523476266/posts/1688992451798758/
>> but I think it's only visible to members of that group.
>>
>> Suan
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 9:16 PM Dave Nutter  wrote:
>> >
>> > Today I learned of - and eventually saw - a regionally rare Snowy Egret
>> along the Wildlife Drive at Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge.
>> >
>> > I first learned of it from a text rare bird alert from Mark Miller at
>> 10:25am that it was “last seen at Seneca Flats,” but I wondered about
>> Mark’s use of passive voice and the lack of any picture from this avid
>> photographer. As I prepared to look for the bird there was not yet any
>> eBird report from Mark either.
>> >
>> > But there was an eBird report from earlier this morning by David
>> Kennedy, who takes gorgeous photos and seems to either find, re-find, or
>> document most of the rarities around Montezuma. He included 5 pictures with
>> the comment that it was “Feeding along east shore of Seneca Flats,” and in
>> this case it was a re-find because he said it was “seen and photographed by
>> Bob S. yesterday.”
>> >
>> > This appears to be the first documented record of Snowy Egret in the
>> Cayuga Lake Basin this year, and as I try to maintain First Records records
>> list, I’m looking for some help. Who is Bob S? Can I find the photo and
>> record of his sighting? Where did he see it? At this point I’m not trying
>> to verify the ID, I’m just looking for the standard information and credit
>> that I include on the list.
>> >
>> > Today, thanks to text rare bird alert messages, several additional
>> people saw this small, active egret at various places along the Wildlife
>> Drive’s first straightaway, and the adjacent Seneca River. Generally it
>> progressed north from Seneca Flats. It’s hard to say where it will be
>> tomorrow, but I hope that, if it sticks around in publicly accessible
>> places, folks continue to share its whereabouts so others can see this
>> beautiful bird.
>> >
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR Snowy Egret - RFI

[John Gregoire]

We went up today and the Snowy was a no-show as we checked the expected
areas. Lots if birders. A terrific selection of waterfowl made the trip
worthwhile.
John and Sue

On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 10:57 AM Suan Hsi Yong  wrote:

> Photos were posted to the Facebook group "Birds of Montezuma National
> Wildlife Refuge" by Bob and Diane Slater on Monday, November 13, at
> 6:30pm. A comment says "it flew in front of us around 4:30 pm, in the
> dead tree near the Eagle tree".
>
> The post URL is
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/172217523476266/posts/1688992451798758/
> but I think it's only visible to members of that group.
>
> Suan
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 9:16 PM Dave Nutter  wrote:
> >
> > Today I learned of - and eventually saw - a regionally rare Snowy Egret
> along the Wildlife Drive at Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge.
> >
> > I first learned of it from a text rare bird alert from Mark Miller at
> 10:25am that it was “last seen at Seneca Flats,” but I wondered about
> Mark’s use of passive voice and the lack of any picture from this avid
> photographer. As I prepared to look for the bird there was not yet any
> eBird report from Mark either.
> >
> > But there was an eBird report from earlier this morning by David
> Kennedy, who takes gorgeous photos and seems to either find, re-find, or
> document most of the rarities around Montezuma. He included 5 pictures with
> the comment that it was “Feeding along east shore of Seneca Flats,” and in
> this case it was a re-find because he said it was “seen and photographed by
> Bob S. yesterday.”
> >
> > This appears to be the first documented record of Snowy Egret in the
> Cayuga Lake Basin this year, and as I try to maintain First Records records
> list, I’m looking for some help. Who is Bob S? Can I find the photo and
> record of his sighting? Where did he see it? At this point I’m not trying
> to verify the ID, I’m just looking for the standard information and credit
> that I include on the list.
> >
> > Today, thanks to text rare bird alert messages, several additional
> people saw this small, active egret at various places along the Wildlife
> Drive’s first straightaway, and the adjacent Seneca River. Generally it
> progressed north from Seneca Flats. It’s hard to say where it will be
> tomorrow, but I hope that, if it sticks around in publicly accessible
> places, folks continue to share its whereabouts so others can see this
> beautiful bird.
> >
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR Snowy Egret - RFI

[Suan Hsi Yong]

I should follow up and say that that Facebook group has become
immensely popular, currently with 11.4K members, and may well have the
broadest reach of any electronic group related to birds in the basin
(though they still lose out to "Bald Eagles of Onondaga Lake" with
18.8K members), and may well be "required reading" (or viewing) for
those wanting to keep tabs on sightings at the MNWR.

Suan


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>
> Photos were posted to the Facebook group "Birds of Montezuma National
> Wildlife Refuge" by Bob and Diane Slater on Monday, November 13, at
> 6:30pm. A comment says "it flew in front of us around 4:30 pm, in the
> dead tree near the Eagle tree".
>
> The post URL is
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/172217523476266/posts/1688992451798758/
> but I think it's only visible to members of that group.
>
> Suan
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR Snowy Egret - RFI

[Suan Hsi Yong]

Photos were posted to the Facebook group "Birds of Montezuma National
Wildlife Refuge" by Bob and Diane Slater on Monday, November 13, at
6:30pm. A comment says "it flew in front of us around 4:30 pm, in the
dead tree near the Eagle tree".

The post URL is
https://www.facebook.com/groups/172217523476266/posts/1688992451798758/
but I think it's only visible to members of that group.

Suan


On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 9:16 PM Dave Nutter  wrote:
>
> Today I learned of - and eventually saw - a regionally rare Snowy Egret along 
> the Wildlife Drive at Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge.
>
> I first learned of it from a text rare bird alert from Mark Miller at 10:25am 
> that it was “last seen at Seneca Flats,” but I wondered about Mark’s use of 
> passive voice and the lack of any picture from this avid photographer. As I 
> prepared to look for the bird there was not yet any eBird report from Mark 
> either.
>
> But there was an eBird report from earlier this morning by David Kennedy, who 
> takes gorgeous photos and seems to either find, re-find, or document most of 
> the rarities around Montezuma. He included 5 pictures with the comment that 
> it was “Feeding along east shore of Seneca Flats,” and in this case it was a 
> re-find because he said it was “seen and photographed by Bob S. yesterday.”
>
> This appears to be the first documented record of Snowy Egret in the Cayuga 
> Lake Basin this year, and as I try to maintain First Records records list, 
> I’m looking for some help. Who is Bob S? Can I find the photo and record of 
> his sighting? Where did he see it? At this point I’m not trying to verify the 
> ID, I’m just looking for the standard information and credit that I include 
> on the list.
>
> Today, thanks to text rare bird alert messages, several additional people saw 
> this small, active egret at various places along the Wildlife Drive’s first 
> straightaway, and the adjacent Seneca River. Generally it progressed north 
> from Seneca Flats. It’s hard to say where it will be tomorrow, but I hope 
> that, if it sticks around in publicly accessible places, folks continue to 
> share its whereabouts so others can see this beautiful bird.
>
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR guided shorebird walks

[Dave Nutter]

I just got word from Reuben Stoltzfus:

There will NOT be a shorebird walk this Saturday, August 5th. 

Refuge staff will work on cutting some openings in the vegetation along the 
Tschache Pool dike over the next few days.

There WILL BE shorebird walks led by Reuben on August 12th & August 19th. 

Reuben says that Andrea VanBeusichem, who is Visitor Services Manager for 
Montezuma NWR, will post a notice on Eventbrite (with which I am unfamiliar), 
and if you reply to that, it will help Reuben gauge how many people to expect.

Meet Reuben at the Tschache Pool Tower parking lot at 7am to start the walks. 
Bring a scope if you have one, and please share what you find and assist others 
in seeing, hearing, and identifying shorebirds or asking questions. That’s what 
makes these walks work so well, in my opinion. That means staying close 
together enough to communicate and let the most people observe birds in case 
the birds do fly off, even though shorebirds are less skittish than many other 
birds. The refuge plans to place a barricade on the dike road, beyond which we 
visitors will not be allowed. Please respect this. 

If you would like to lead a shorebird walk on either August 26th or September 
2, please call Reuben Stoltzfus at 607-869-9466. This number is for his roofing 
and construction business, but you should leave a message for him with option 
3, which is for messages for Reuben’s family.

I hope to see many of you, and some shorebirds as well, on August 12th & 19th!

- - Dave Nutter

> On Aug 2, 2023, at 4:55 AM, Dave Nutter  wrote:
> 
> For a number of years the management at Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge 
> has allowed a limited number of the public into normally restricted areas on 
> a few days in summer to observe migrant shorebirds on guided walks. 
> 
> Reuben Stoltzfus has been talking to staff to see what can be arranged this 
> year, hoping for a series of morning walks through August into the beginning 
> of September. They would happen on Saturdays, which would allow Amish and 
> Mennonite birders to participate. Reuben asked me to write to CayugaBirds-L 
> to let you know what’s happening. Anyone is welcome to forward this info to 
> other regional list-serves. 
> 
> The shorebird habitat is best at Tschache Pool, so that’s where he 
> anticipates walks to occur, but the vegetation is currently too tall 
> alongside the dike road to view it except by standing on the bed of a pick-up 
> truck. That’s how Jay McGowan, helping the folks who regularly census the 
> birds for the refuge, was able to amass a very respectable list of shorebird 
> species a couple days ago. Public vehicles would not be allowed on walks, so 
> staff will have to cut some gaps in the roadside vegetation before walks are 
> practical, and there will be a limit as to how far along the 
> several-mile-long dike that walks will be allowed to go. 
> 
> If staff are able to do this work in the next few days, then the first walk 
> might be this Saturday, August 5th, and Reuben is willing to lead a trip that 
> morning. That would be very short notice, so keep an eye out for a sign-up 
> notice. Reuben also plans to lead walks on the 12th and the 19th, when it is 
> more likely that the habitat will be viewable. If there are folks willing to 
> lead walks on August 26th and September 2nd, when Reuben cannot, that would 
> be great, so please think about helping that way. When word goes out how to 
> sign up to go on the early walks, that may also be the chance to sign up to 
> lead a later walk. 
> 
> If and when walks are permitted, Reuben anticipates starting at 7am at the 
> parking lot by the Tschache Pool tower off NYS-89 just north its I-90 
> overpass. Numbers of participants should not be as limited as they were 
> during COVID.  I hope to have more information for you soon. 
> 
> - - Dave Nutter

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma wildlife drive

[John Luther Cisne]

The single sleeping swan was a Trumpeter.  I woke it up.

From:  on behalf of Colleen 
Richards 
Reply-To: Colleen Richards 
Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 11:39 AM
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Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma wildlife drive

Quick trip through wildlife drive at Montezuma yesterday. Lots of Blue-winged 
and Green-winged Teal at Visitor Center along with a single pair of Northern 
Pintail.
A single sleeping Swan (sp) and lots of Ring-necked Ducks on the main pool and 
Bennings Marsh pool as well as Northern Shovelers everywhere. A pair of bathing 
Mallards' crazy behaviors flushed an American Bittern along the thruway- first 
time I've seen one in flight.
On the way back along Rt. 20 there were 5 pairs of osprey on nests, poles or 
flying in the air as well as 2 single birds flying in opposite directions with 
fish. The trip along the lake down Rt.. 90 brought 7 additional pairs on 
nesting platforms.

Colleen Richards
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Crane follow up

[Dave Nutter]

Thanks for the exciting update on Sandhill Cranes in open ag fields.  They are 
spectacular to see, and always thrill me. 

Just a small note about the township: Armitage Road is along the border between 
the Town of Savannah in Wayne County to the north and Town of Tyre in Seneca 
County on the south. Some folks who like to keep track of what birds they’ve 
observed in what county will actually keep 2 separate lists, one for each side 
of the Armitage Road when birding there. A bird which crosses the road gets 
counted on each list! So yes, while there may be Cranes in Savannah, but there 
may also be Cranes across the road in Tyre. EBird keeps track of records by 
county as well. 

- - Dave Nutter

> On Oct 14, 2021, at 9:03 AM, Johnson, Alyssa  
> wrote:
> 
> Currently counting 60+ cranes in the fields on either side of Armitage road. 
> Located just west of Olmstead Rd. Bulk of the flock is on the south side of 
> Armitage rd. The township is Savannah. They’ve been here for every morning 
> this week! 
> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Spoonbill update, 13 July

[Dave K]

Spoonbill in same MNWR Thruway pool as Sunday.better light. 6:10

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Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 5:33:40 PM
To: Dave Nutter 
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Spoonbill update, 13 July

Tom Auer on Cayuga Rare Bird Alert just reported R. Spoonbill back at Eagle 
statue/ Thruway pond.

Donna Scott
Lansing
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:


The Roseate Spoonbill at Montezuma NWR, which was seen by many on July 11th in 
a pond along the Wildlife Drive by I-90 and the giant Bald Eagle Stature, flew 
with a Great Egret toward Tschache Pool early that evening.

It has been seen several times in Tschache Pool in the company of one or more 
Great Egrets both on the 12th and today the 13th as recently as early this 
afternoon. As I understand it these views are distant and some were brief views 
in flight. Because Tschache Pool is closed to the public and mostly heavily 
vegetated, I believe all those views were from the tower along NYS-89 just 
north of I-90 (although sometimes some open water can be seen from farther 
north along NYS-89), looking at the few large areas of open water at the edges 
while keeping an eye open for overflights.

Still, if you want to see a big pink bird with a uniquely wacky bill, and you 
either don’t have or don’t want to use psychedelic drugs, Tschache Pool may be 
your best bet.

Lots of people submitted photos of this Roseate Spoonbill to eBird. Some of my 
favorites are by Dave Kennedy (feeding), by Mark Miller (shaking after 
bathing), and Gary Chapin (flying). The latter 2 show the black margins to the 
primary tips. The photos can be found by going to “My eBird” then “Alerts” and 
calling up Seneca County NY which gives all reports of rarities for the past 7 
days (so this offer expires on the 18th), then “details” for individual 
reports’ remarks & photos. There are also a bunch of photos on the Birds of 
Montezuma Facebook page (a site put together by photographers, not the official 
NWR site).

As you may know, I try to keep track of annual first records of bird species in 
the Cayuga Lake Basin in a table on the Cayuga Bird Club website’s Resources 
page. So I’ve been trying to figure out who found this bird, and I’m happy to 
credit multiple independent finders. So far this is what I have, all on July 
11th:

Ginger Bernardin submitted an eBird list from the Wildlife Drive from 8-9:30am 
including a brief description and a photo of the spoonbill. But before this 
eBird list showed up in eBird’s rare birds reports, other folks independently 
encountered the Roseate Spoonbill, so they get credit, too.

Dianne Dean Quintavalle and her husband (who deserves some credit but I saw no 
name for him) saw and recognized the bird through a telescope at a viewing 
platform on the Wildlife Drive. They were unable to photograph it, but she 
started a conversation on the Birds of Montezuma Facebook page at 9:59am 
confirming that she saw a pink bird with a spoon bill which she named as 
Roseate Spoonbill.

Karen Gellman replied in that conversation that she had also seen the bird by 
about 11am but had trouble reporting it to eBird because Roseate Spoonbill is 
not part of eBird’s NE US regional repertoire. By 11:23 she had posted photos 
of the bird to that facebook page, and she later submitted those photos to 
eBird for that time.

Linda Harvey and Angela Rider both managed overcome such obstacles and 
submitted incidental single bird reports for Roseate Spoonbill to eBird at 
11:13 & 11:17 respectively, both from the Thruway Pools along the Wildlife 
Drive. These reports piqued the interest of eBird followers, yet left folks 
wondering if these unprecedented reports were real, because neither report 
included any details of ID or evidence that would separate the reports from the 
occasional person horsing around with an absurd report (yes, that does happen) 
or a wild error of some sort (that also happens). I have generally stopped 
crediting empty reports of rarities. The exception which applies here is when 
the report which lack details or evidence manages to help other observers to 
find the bird and provide those details &/or that evidence. So they get credit. 
Scouts went looking.

Meanwhile an eBird report submitted later by Zeke VanZante for the Wildlife 
Drive says it started at 11:15am (right in between the previous 2 eBird 
reports) and spent 2 hours to travel 5 miles. He provides a photo of the 
Roseate Spoonbill from near the start of the Wildlife Drive, and says he also 
saw a/the Spoonbill at the end of the drive, making him wonder if there were 2 
Spoonbills. Regardless of precise timing and the flights of the bird, this is 
an independent valid report, so this name is included.

And the scouts alerted on account of eB

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Spoonbill update, 13 July

[Donna Lee Scott]

Tom Auer on Cayuga Rare Bird Alert just reported R. Spoonbill back at Eagle 
statue/ Thruway pond.

Donna Scott
Lansing
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:


The Roseate Spoonbill at Montezuma NWR, which was seen by many on July 11th in 
a pond along the Wildlife Drive by I-90 and the giant Bald Eagle Stature, flew 
with a Great Egret toward Tschache Pool early that evening.

It has been seen several times in Tschache Pool in the company of one or more 
Great Egrets both on the 12th and today the 13th as recently as early this 
afternoon. As I understand it these views are distant and some were brief views 
in flight. Because Tschache Pool is closed to the public and mostly heavily 
vegetated, I believe all those views were from the tower along NYS-89 just 
north of I-90 (although sometimes some open water can be seen from farther 
north along NYS-89), looking at the few large areas of open water at the edges 
while keeping an eye open for overflights.

Still, if you want to see a big pink bird with a uniquely wacky bill, and you 
either don’t have or don’t want to use psychedelic drugs, Tschache Pool may be 
your best bet.

Lots of people submitted photos of this Roseate Spoonbill to eBird. Some of my 
favorites are by Dave Kennedy (feeding), by Mark Miller (shaking after 
bathing), and Gary Chapin (flying). The latter 2 show the black margins to the 
primary tips. The photos can be found by going to “My eBird” then “Alerts” and 
calling up Seneca County NY which gives all reports of rarities for the past 7 
days (so this offer expires on the 18th), then “details” for individual 
reports’ remarks & photos. There are also a bunch of photos on the Birds of 
Montezuma Facebook page (a site put together by photographers, not the official 
NWR site).

As you may know, I try to keep track of annual first records of bird species in 
the Cayuga Lake Basin in a table on the Cayuga Bird Club website’s Resources 
page. So I’ve been trying to figure out who found this bird, and I’m happy to 
credit multiple independent finders. So far this is what I have, all on July 
11th:

Ginger Bernardin submitted an eBird list from the Wildlife Drive from 8-9:30am 
including a brief description and a photo of the spoonbill. But before this 
eBird list showed up in eBird’s rare birds reports, other folks independently 
encountered the Roseate Spoonbill, so they get credit, too.

Dianne Dean Quintavalle and her husband (who deserves some credit but I saw no 
name for him) saw and recognized the bird through a telescope at a viewing 
platform on the Wildlife Drive. They were unable to photograph it, but she 
started a conversation on the Birds of Montezuma Facebook page at 9:59am 
confirming that she saw a pink bird with a spoon bill which she named as 
Roseate Spoonbill.

Karen Gellman replied in that conversation that she had also seen the bird by 
about 11am but had trouble reporting it to eBird because Roseate Spoonbill is 
not part of eBird’s NE US regional repertoire. By 11:23 she had posted photos 
of the bird to that facebook page, and she later submitted those photos to 
eBird for that time.

Linda Harvey and Angela Rider both managed overcome such obstacles and 
submitted incidental single bird reports for Roseate Spoonbill to eBird at 
11:13 & 11:17 respectively, both from the Thruway Pools along the Wildlife 
Drive. These reports piqued the interest of eBird followers, yet left folks 
wondering if these unprecedented reports were real, because neither report 
included any details of ID or evidence that would separate the reports from the 
occasional person horsing around with an absurd report (yes, that does happen) 
or a wild error of some sort (that also happens). I have generally stopped 
crediting empty reports of rarities. The exception which applies here is when 
the report which lack details or evidence manages to help other observers to 
find the bird and provide those details &/or that evidence. So they get credit. 
Scouts went looking.

Meanwhile an eBird report submitted later by Zeke VanZante for the Wildlife 
Drive says it started at 11:15am (right in between the previous 2 eBird 
reports) and spent 2 hours to travel 5 miles. He provides a photo of the 
Roseate Spoonbill from near the start of the Wildlife Drive, and says he also 
saw a/the Spoonbill at the end of the drive, making him wonder if there were 2 
Spoonbills. Regardless of precise timing and the flights of the bird, this is 
an independent valid report, so this name is included.

And the scouts alerted on account of eBird reports indeed found the bird, which 
graciously stuck around. The first of those scouts to send word back was Mike 
Gullo at 12:37, who saw the Roseate Spoonbill at Eaton Marsh from which I think 
it flew over the Seneca River and also toward the Thruway Pools (again). His 
eBird reports are among many with photos, and I think it’s fair to say that the 
many ensuing observers owe their observ

Re:[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Spoonbill update, 13 July

[Dave Nutter]

Addendum: at 5:30pm Tom Auer reported that the Roseate Spoonbill just flew in 
by the eagle statue from Tschache Pool!

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Muckrace 2021

[Peter Saracino]

Great news!
Thanks.
Pete Sar

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, 7:26 PM  wrote:

> After cancellation last year due to Covid-19 concerns the Montezuma
> Muckrace is back on! We are scheduling the event for September 10-11th,
> 7pm-7pm.
>
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> as possible. The event is also a fundraiser for the Friends of the
> Montezuma Wetlands Complex. 2019 brought out 34 teams (151 total
> participants, a new record) which totaled 176 species seen and/or heard and
> raised over $11,000!
>
> Money raised goes towards bird conservation, wildlife habitat improvement
> and public access in the Montezuma Wetlands Complex. Teams pay a
> registration fee and gather donations and/or sponsorships for this
> fundraiser. There are several categories under which a team can register
> including; Competitive, Recreational, Low-Carbon, Family/Mentor, and Photo.
>
> T-shirts will be available for $12 per team member and a pizza dinner
> following the event is included in the registration fee. During the dinner
> a wrap-up of the event will be presented along with a wide assortment of
> prizes.
>
> Please visit https://friendsofmontezuma.org/projects-programs/muckrace/
> for information on past Muckrace events and where you’ll be able to
> register your team soon for this year’s event!
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Main Pool?

[Muhammad Arif]

I was there last night, too. To Alyssa’s list, I will add Osprey, Cedar 
Waxwing, a female Wood Duck with 6 ducklings, Indigo Bunting, and a single 
Trumpeter Swan (which appeared to be sitting on a nest?). Images of the swan 
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From: Johnson, Alyssa<mailto:alyssa.john...@audubon.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 10:16 AM
To: Sandy Podulka<mailto:s...@cornell.edu>; Cayuga 
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Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Main Pool?

Hi Sandy and all,

I was there last night.

The Main Pool has been drained this summer for management purposes. See here 
for the Refuge's explanation: 
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1919598661523947&set=gm.1081190235912319

There is still a stream of water running through the middle and along the drive 
as you move closer to the spillway. We saw many Canada geese and goslings of 
all ages, Bald Eagles (scan with your binos on the ground way out, they often 
sit on the muck), Turkey Vultures, Great Blue Herons, Mallards (and ducklings), 
Green-winged Teal, Common Gallinule, American Coot, a few Gadwall, a single 
Great Egret, Killdeer, Yellowlegs, Red-winged Blackbirds, Ring-billed Gulls, 
Black Terns, and Common Grackles. I didn't see them last night, but I did see 
them Monday: the family of Sandhill Cranes that have been there all season. 2 
adults and a very leggy baby! Here is another link to a bird survey done at the 
Refuge earlier this week: 
https://www.facebook.com/FriendsoftheMWC/photos/pcb.10159330589425688/10159330569450688/

Of course there were also Marsh Wrens calling, never seen, and Song Sparrows, 
Common Yellowthroats, Yellow Warblers, Eastern Kingbirds, Barn and Tree 
Swallows, Purple Martins, and probably more I'm forgetting.

The Prothonotary Warbler on Armitage Rd was singing and very cooperative even 
at 6:30pm.

Enjoy!

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Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 9:19 PM
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Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Main Pool?

Has anyone been up to Montezuma recently? Is there water in the Main Pool along 
the Wildlife Drive? Lots of birds around?

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Main Pool?

[Johnson, Alyssa]

Hi Sandy and all,

I was there last night.

The Main Pool has been drained this summer for management purposes. See here 
for the Refuge's explanation: 
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1919598661523947&set=gm.1081190235912319

There is still a stream of water running through the middle and along the drive 
as you move closer to the spillway. We saw many Canada geese and goslings of 
all ages, Bald Eagles (scan with your binos on the ground way out, they often 
sit on the muck), Turkey Vultures, Great Blue Herons, Mallards (and ducklings), 
Green-winged Teal, Common Gallinule, American Coot, a few Gadwall, a single 
Great Egret, Killdeer, Yellowlegs, Red-winged Blackbirds, Ring-billed Gulls, 
Black Terns, and Common Grackles. I didn't see them last night, but I did see 
them Monday: the family of Sandhill Cranes that have been there all season. 2 
adults and a very leggy baby! Here is another link to a bird survey done at the 
Refuge earlier this week: 
https://www.facebook.com/FriendsoftheMWC/photos/pcb.10159330589425688/10159330569450688/

Of course there were also Marsh Wrens calling, never seen, and Song Sparrows, 
Common Yellowthroats, Yellow Warblers, Eastern Kingbirds, Barn and Tree 
Swallows, Purple Martins, and probably more I'm forgetting.

The Prothonotary Warbler on Armitage Rd was singing and very cooperative even 
at 6:30pm.

Enjoy!

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Montezuma Audubon Center
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Montezuma.audubon.org
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Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Main Pool?

Has anyone been up to Montezuma recently? Is there water in the Main Pool along 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Main Pool?

[Peter Saracino]

Hi Sandy.
I usually help with the Friday surveys at the Refuge but had to be in
Massachusetts. However I believe Jackie Bakker did a Friday survey and as
soon as she posts her results I will send them along.
Pete Sar

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma crane breeding success?

[Peter Saracino]

Mike and all.
One November a few years back I attended the "Festival of the Cranes" at
Bosque Del Apache NWR in New Mexico. Many cranes winter there (including
members of the lesser race of sandhills that hale from as far away as
western Alaska and Siberia!!). Anyway down that way they called them the
"sirloin of the skies" and said they were quite delicious. I must confess
I've never tasted one.
I suppise the positive side of a future hunting season for the eastern
crane population would be that their numbers had grown to such a healthy
extent that a limited season would be in order.
THAT being said, it IS difficult to ponder so beautiful a creature being
"taken" on the wing. But I suppose the same could be said for a snow
goose
Just thinking out loud.
Pete Sar



On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 11:28 AM  wrote:

> The numbers of Sandhill Cranes are now about double any previous year by
> my marginal memory’s recollection.  The highest I remember 2 years ago was
> around 127 (but eBird search experts can correct me). If y happy just
> enjoying the beautiful flock stop reading.! Based on this year’s nesting
> stories that I either saw, heard or read about the refuge didn’t contribute
> much. First, I read of a pair that had 2 young near the main pool
> observation tower. That went down to one young then I heard none. The DEC
> staff told me that a pair at Morgan road had one bird disappear long enough
> to hopefully incubate but rejoined the other with no young in tow. The
> Carncross Road pair appeared together often but no baby. Joann and I found
> one on a nest at the Sandhill Crane unit. They hatched one young but that
> bird disappeared a short week later. Finally a pair at Knox showed up with
> a fledgling and as far a I know that was the only refuge success. I hope
> others have better stories as I heard talk of pairs on Howland Island and
> at the MAC. The first post nesting gathering at Knox that I saw were
> consistent with this as I remember a dozen with 1 juvenile. Then they came
> from everywhere apparently. Yay!
>This number also starts concerns with me about potential future
> hunting. I don’t know where our birds winter but know that the eastern
> population can be hunted in Tennessee, Kentucky and starting last year
> Alabama. Its pretty unlikely that the hunters here won’t want to shoot the
> “ribeyes of the sky” so start campaigning to have them protected! Mike
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma crane breeding success?

[Johnson, Alyssa]

All, I counted 176 last year at once in Knox Marsellus. That was the highest 
number I had come across until Pete Saracino's 256 yesterday!

What an amazing story, huh?

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Environmental Educator
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Montezuma Audubon Center
PO Box 187
2295 State Route 89
Savannah, NY 13146
Montezuma.audubon.org

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Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 11:28 AM
To: Cayuga Birds 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma crane breeding success?

The numbers of Sandhill Cranes are now about double any previous year by my 
marginal memory’s recollection.  The highest I remember 2 years ago was around 
127 (but eBird search experts can correct me). If y happy just enjoying the 
beautiful flock stop reading.! Based on this year’s nesting stories that I 
either saw, heard or read about the refuge didn’t contribute much. First, I 
read of a pair that had 2 young near the main pool observation tower. That went 
down to one young then I heard none. The DEC staff told me that a pair at 
Morgan road had one bird disappear long enough to hopefully incubate but 
rejoined the other with no young in tow. The Carncross Road pair appeared 
together often but no baby. Joann and I found one on a nest at the Sandhill 
Crane unit. They hatched one young but that bird disappeared a short week 
later. Finally a pair at Knox showed up with a fledgling and as far a I know 
that was the only refuge success. I hope others have better stories as I heard 
talk of pairs on Howland Island and at the MAC. The first post nesting 
gathering at Knox that I saw were consistent with this as I remember a dozen 
with 1 juvenile. Then they came from everywhere apparently. Yay!
   This number also starts concerns with me about potential future hunting. I 
don’t know where our birds winter but know that the eastern population can be 
hunted in Tennessee, Kentucky and starting last year Alabama. Its pretty 
unlikely that the hunters here won’t want to shoot the “ribeyes of the sky” so 
start campaigning to have them protected! Mike Tetlow


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

[Peter Saracino]

The Refuge is currently short-staffed. Work on flooding the Visitors Center
pool was scheduled to begin last week but problems were encountered with
the pump. They are working hard to resolve the problem. I wouldn't be
surprised but in the next few days there will be water in that area. Not
sure if water levels at Carncross can be manipulated.
Hope this helps.
Pete Saracino



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wrote:

> Both the visitor center field and Carncross Rd fields are bone dry. I was
> there this morning!
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

[Johnson, Alyssa]

Both the visitor center field and Carncross Rd fields are bone dry. I was there 
this morning!

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Does anyone know if they’ve flooded the visitor center area or Carncross road 
yet?

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Moments: The Times They Are A Changing

[Jennifer]

I am trying to identify this bird we saw bobbing on top of the lake yesterday. 
Any help appreciated! A sandpiper? 



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> On Sep 4, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Peter Saracino  wrote:
> 
> While conducting the twice-weekly survey of the Montezuma Refuge Jackie 
> Bakker, Linda Benedict and I are often privileged to witness some incredible 
> natural events - a great blue heron in the process of gulping down an entire 
> muskrat; a peregrine falcon knocking an immature black crown night heron out 
> of the air; a huge flock of green winged teal engaged in a breathtaking 
> starling-like murmuration; the raucous Spring arrival of a huge flock of 
> greater yelowlegs;  the early morning wonder of coming upon the overnight 
> roost of a host of migrant monarch butterflies. 
> Yesterday was no exception.  In response to the dwindling amount of solar 
> energy being received in the northern hemisphere, change is rapidly 
> occurring. Two events yesterday confirmed this. As we drove along the 
> Tschache Pool dike we were treated to the presence of 30+ bald eagles - of 
> all ages - from this year's hatch on up to 4 year old birds and a few adults. 
> The birds were perched in trees, on logs and stumps in the pool, flying along 
> the dike or soaring overhead. The second episode occurred at Puddler Marsh. 
> As we drove along the dike we witnessed 85 black-crowned night herons (young 
> and old) leaving the trees along the dike where they commonly roost. We were 
> stunned as the birds just kept coming out of those trees.and coming and 
> coming and coming!
> Noble Laureate, Bob Dylan, once sang that "the times they are a changing".  
> While he wasn't talking about bird migration, his words can certainly be 
> applied to these early September days as the planet's creatures prepare in 
> myriad ways for the leaving of the light.
> I hope that in many ways you each can experience the bittersweet beauty 
> inherent in this changing time of the year.
> Pete Sar
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Knox-Marsellus Marsh Dike Walk Sun Sept 8th, 2019

[Tom Fernandes]

Dave Nicosia, Thank you so much for leading this past Sundays walk. For someone 
who mostly birds alone , it was a great learning experience and all the extra 
sets of eyes were quite helpful as well.Dave Nutter thanks so much for  the 
insight into Stilt Sandpiper feeding behavior it sure made locating them much 
easier!! The sedge wren imitator , yellow warbler I think you said ( or was it 
yellowthroat? Please correct me)was also very interesting. What a great 
experience birding with such a friendly, welcoming and extremely knowledgeable 
group.Thanks again  for a great time.   I highly recommend these walks for all 
levels of  birders!   Tom FernandesSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy 
smartphone
 Original message From: Dave Nutter  Date: 
9/9/19  3:38 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: David Nicosia  Cc: 
Cayuga birds , "Van Beusichem, Andrea" 
, "Ziemba, Linda"  Subject: 
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Knox-Marsellus Marsh Dike Walk Sun Sept 8th, 2019 
Thanks, Dave Nicosia, for doing a great job leading the walks, keeping eBird 
lists, and writing summaries! I have a few things to add. First, it made a big 
difference that the dike had been widely mowed for the Muckrace, so it was easy 
to view the impoundment. Not only could we watch from more places, but several 
people could stand next to each other without anyone’s view being blocked, and 
short people could just plain see, all of which had been difficult when the 
vegetation was tall everywhere along the dike. Thank-you, Refuge staff.Second, 
it was Ken & Adriaan who found the small passerine flock in the SE corner of 
the woods, including Magnolia Warbler, Common Yellowthroat, a Red-eyed Vireo 
which surprisingly made a couple of wide sweeping sallies out from the woods, 
Swamp Sparrow, Song Sparrow (all of which I saw), and Least Flycatcher (which I 
missed).Dave Nicosia listed a flyover Wilson’s Snipe, but from farther along 
the dike I managed to follow such a bird in my scope until it alit on the open 
mud, barely visible to me as I looked over an island of cattails. With several 
other folks, I walked on the dike past the cattails and proudly aimed my scope 
at the Snipe who was walking toward a sleeping Greater Yellowlegs and a 
preening Pectoral Sandpiper on either side of an inconsequential bit of weed 
stubble. The first person looking through my scope had a great view, but the 
second person couldn’t find the Snipe. I looked again, and neither could I. 
Then someone looking through another scope saw the Snipe’s head move in the 
weed stubble, and people again took turns watching. When I got my scope back, I 
watched the Snipe for awhile, too. Eventually I realized that I really could 
see most of the Snipe, but it matched the weed stubble in height, color, and 
pattern. This was a life bird for one of the people with me. Early in the walk 
I had fallen behind Dave Nicosia, and I saw 3 American Golden-Plovers flying 
back and forth over the marsh. They started low, but gradually gained altitude 
and eventually appeared to fly off toward the Wildlife Drive. At least 2 of 
them were adults in transition to winter plumage but still with considerable 
blotches of black below. Much later I found a single such bird walking on the 
mud, so I told people about it, and when I looked again, there were 3 plovers. 
Maybe they were the same birds that I saw depart a couple hours earlier, having 
determined that Knox-Marsellus had the best shorebird habitat around. Again 
people were interested in the subtleties of Stilt Sandpiper ID, so we worked on 
that while watching their distinctive vertical ramming feeding behavior among 
the more randomly pecking Greater & Lesser Yellowlegs. And I talked about 
Pectoral Sandpipers, whose color & pattern are similar to Least, but whose 
shape differs, the larger species having a proportionately smaller head with an 
actual neck showing at times (Least & Semipalmated Sandpipers look neck-less to 
me). And I talked about how to use color and shape and proportions in shorebird 
ID generally.On our way out onto the dikes we saw several Long-billed 
Dowitchers, whose immaculate juvenile plumage had a cold grayish-tan hue 
overall and whose tertials were plain gray with narrow pale edges. When I was 
leaving, walking slow and falling behind everyone else, I discovered a juvenile 
Short-billed Dowitcher which must have just arrived. It had a warm overall 
orange glow in the sunlight from the edging on all the back & wing feathers, 
including the tertials, which had additional orange bars. I wished there 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Knox-Marsellus Marsh Dike Walk Sun Sept 8th, 2019

[Dave Nutter]

Thanks, Dave Nicosia, for doing a great job leading the walks, keeping eBird 
lists, and writing summaries! I have a few things to add. 

First, it made a big difference that the dike had been widely mowed for the 
Muckrace, so it was easy to view the impoundment. Not only could we watch from 
more places, but several people could stand next to each other without anyone’s 
view being blocked, and short people could just plain see, all of which had 
been difficult when the vegetation was tall everywhere along the dike. 
Thank-you, Refuge staff.

Second, it was Ken & Adriaan who found the small passerine flock in the SE 
corner of the woods, including Magnolia Warbler, Common Yellowthroat, a 
Red-eyed Vireo which surprisingly made a couple of wide sweeping sallies out 
from the woods, Swamp Sparrow, Song Sparrow (all of which I saw), and Least 
Flycatcher (which I missed).

Dave Nicosia listed a flyover Wilson’s Snipe, but from farther along the dike I 
managed to follow such a bird in my scope until it alit on the open mud, barely 
visible to me as I looked over an island of cattails. With several other folks, 
I walked on the dike past the cattails and proudly aimed my scope at the Snipe 
who was walking toward a sleeping Greater Yellowlegs and a preening Pectoral 
Sandpiper on either side of an inconsequential bit of weed stubble. The first 
person looking through my scope had a great view, but the second person 
couldn’t find the Snipe. I looked again, and neither could I. Then someone 
looking through another scope saw the Snipe’s head move in the weed stubble, 
and people again took turns watching. When I got my scope back, I watched the 
Snipe for awhile, too. Eventually I realized that I really could see most of 
the Snipe, but it matched the weed stubble in height, color, and pattern. This 
was a life bird for one of the people with me. 

Early in the walk I had fallen behind Dave Nicosia, and I saw 3 American 
Golden-Plovers flying back and forth over the marsh. They started low, but 
gradually gained altitude and eventually appeared to fly off toward the 
Wildlife Drive. At least 2 of them were adults in transition to winter plumage 
but still with considerable blotches of black below. Much later I found a 
single such bird walking on the mud, so I told people about it, and when I 
looked again, there were 3 plovers. Maybe they were the same birds that I saw 
depart a couple hours earlier, having determined that Knox-Marsellus had the 
best shorebird habitat around. 

Again people were interested in the subtleties of Stilt Sandpiper ID, so we 
worked on that while watching their distinctive vertical ramming feeding 
behavior among the more randomly pecking Greater & Lesser Yellowlegs. 

And I talked about Pectoral Sandpipers, whose color & pattern are similar to 
Least, but whose shape differs, the larger species having a proportionately 
smaller head with an actual neck showing at times (Least & Semipalmated 
Sandpipers look neck-less to me). 

And I talked about how to use color and shape and proportions in shorebird ID 
generally.

On our way out onto the dikes we saw several Long-billed Dowitchers, whose 
immaculate juvenile plumage had a cold grayish-tan hue overall and whose 
tertials were plain gray with narrow pale edges. When I was leaving, walking 
slow and falling behind everyone else, I discovered a juvenile Short-billed 
Dowitcher which must have just arrived. It had a warm overall orange glow in 
the sunlight from the edging on all the back & wing feathers, including the 
tertials, which had additional orange bars. I wished there were still people 
with me to show it to.  















 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma shorebirds and babies.

[psaracin]

And so the "Fall" migration of shorebirds has begun.SarSent from my 
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 Original message From: metet...@gmail.com Date: 7/7/19  7:36 
PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Cayuga Birds  Subject: 
[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma shorebirds and babies. Joann and I drove through 
Montezuma this afternoon. We knew a few Yellowlegs had dropped in Friday but 
surprised to find 32 Lessers and 1 Greater plus 1 Least and 1 Spotted Sandpiper 
in the flooded grasses near the channel halfway down the main pool. Then 
another 27 Lesser and 3 Greater Yellowlegs at Eaton marsh. Shorebird Flats had 
2 Pied-billed Grebe families. One with 2 young, the other with 4. A Common 
Gallinule family there had 7 young. Up at the west end of Benning Marsh there 
was a Female Gadwall with 8 new babies. At Morgan Road a flock of 18 Sandhill 
Cranes were on the back edge of the cornfield on the right just before the 
first house. 2 more Cranes( no young)were on Carncross. Also the first time 
we’ve heard Cerluean Warbler in the woods just north of Carncross. Mike and 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Wildlife Drive - Red Necked Ph

[david nicosia]

Thanks Dave for clarifying this.  
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 9:26 AM, Dave Nutter wrote:   
Credit where credit is due: 

As far as I know, the first report of the Red-necked Phalarope on the Wildlife 
Drive at Montezuma NWR was to eBird on the afternoon of 30 May by Carol Ingram, 
and I have credited her on the Cayuga Lake Basin First 2019 Records list. I do 
not know Carol, nor the names of the other 3 members of her party. If anyone 
has this information, or knows of some earlier or independent sighting on the 
30th, please let me know, so I can add that. 

Some people have submitted eBird reports which credit later reporters as the 
finder, and I urge you folks to correct those.  

This is not to detract from Scott Peterson & others who saw and publicized it 
on the 31st, helping others see it. Well done!

I also thank Dave Nicosia, Mark Miller, Michael Gullo, and Deborah Dohne, who 
went to the trouble of photographing under adverse conditions, and including 
photos in an eBird report even though the photos aren’t “pretty”. And I thank 
Scott Peterson and Deborah Dohne for describing this oddly patterned bird in 
eBird reports. 

To my way of thinking, simply asserting that there is a rare bird should not be 
enough to consider it confirmed, no matter how well known or highly reputed the 
observer. It was the lack of description in Carol’s original eBird report which 
made me wait until there was corroboration by other observers the next day 
before accepting her report. 

Please describe and/or photograph rare birds to establish a solid record. 
Thanks. 

Cool bird! I’m glad so many people got to see it.

- - Dave Nutter

> On May 31, 2019, at 10:20 PM, David Nicosia  wrote:
> 
> A large number of shorebirds continue in main pool which has been drained. 
> The diversity could be down some as I didn't find any red knots, ruddy 
> turnstone or whimbrels of days past. But there was one female RED-NECKED 
> PHALAROPE I think initially spotted by Dave Kennedy and then re-found by 
> Scott Peterson. I was working my way up wildlife drive when Scott sent the 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Wildlife Drive - Red Necked Phalarope and other shorebirds

[Dave Nutter]

Credit where credit is due: 

As far as I know, the first report of the Red-necked Phalarope on the Wildlife 
Drive at Montezuma NWR was to eBird on the afternoon of 30 May by Carol Ingram, 
and I have credited her on the Cayuga Lake Basin First 2019 Records list. I do 
not know Carol, nor the names of the other 3 members of her party. If anyone 
has this information, or knows of some earlier or independent sighting on the 
30th, please let me know, so I can add that. 

Some people have submitted eBird reports which credit later reporters as the 
finder, and I urge you folks to correct those.  

This is not to detract from Scott Peterson & others who saw and publicized it 
on the 31st, helping others see it. Well done!

I also thank Dave Nicosia, Mark Miller, Michael Gullo, and Deborah Dohne, who 
went to the trouble of photographing under adverse conditions, and including 
photos in an eBird report even though the photos aren’t “pretty”. And I thank 
Scott Peterson and Deborah Dohne for describing this oddly patterned bird in 
eBird reports. 

To my way of thinking, simply asserting that there is a rare bird should not be 
enough to consider it confirmed, no matter how well known or highly reputed the 
observer. It was the lack of description in Carol’s original eBird report which 
made me wait until there was corroboration by other observers the next day 
before accepting her report. 

Please describe and/or photograph rare birds to establish a solid record. 
Thanks. 

Cool bird! I’m glad so many people got to see it.

- - Dave Nutter

> On May 31, 2019, at 10:20 PM, David Nicosia  wrote:
> 
> A large number of shorebirds continue in main pool which has been drained. 
> The diversity could be down some as I didn't find any red knots, ruddy 
> turnstone or whimbrels of days past. But there was one female RED-NECKED 
> PHALAROPE I think initially spotted by Dave Kennedy and then re-found by 
> Scott Peterson. I was working my way up wildlife drive when Scott sent the 
> RBA on this great bird. Thanks Scott!. 


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma, mucklands, etc. info

[Sandy Podulka]

This evening there were huge rafts of Snow Geese 
on Cayuga Lake visible from Cayuga Lake State 
Park as well as Route 89 just a few miles south 
of Cayuga Lake State Park.  Just south of the 
park, along Route 89, there was a flock of Tundra 
Swans very close to shore. There were scattered 
groups of Bufflehead, Redhead, Ring-necked Ducks, 
and American Wigeon, and the occasional scaup, 
Black Duck, Mallard, and Red-breasted Merganser. 
I'm sure there was much more, but I was there 
only briefly.  A simply stunning sight in the 
evening light, especially when the Snow Geese all took to the air!

Sandy Podulka

At 08:45 PM 3/20/2019, Mary Jane Thomas wrote:
>Does anyone have recent info about the bird life 
>status on the wildlife drive at MNWR or in the 
>Mucklands?  We’re planning on being in the 
>area on Saturday.  We’d like to see Snow Geese 
>while we’re in the general area - are they 
>more apt to be on Cayuga Lake still?
>
>Thanks for the help and advice.
>
>MJ
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Shorebirds

[psaracin]

Thanks Chris. Solitary sandpipers are also arriving as are Caspisn terns (seen 
on our Friday  Refuge survey).Pete Saracino


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Date: 7/14/18  8:07 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Oneida Birds 
, Cayugabirds , 
Geneseebirds  Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma 
Shorebirds 
It was 90 degrees yesterday but the presence of 100 shorebirds on the Monteuma 
Audubon Center mudflats signifies the beginning of the autumn bird migration. 
Least Sandpipers and Lesser Yellowlegs dominated the landscape but breeding 
Killdeer and Spotted Sandpipers were also found feasting on insects. Good 
birding!
Chris LajewskiCenter DirectorMontezuma Audubon Center

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Today May 29th, 2018- Red Knot, Red-Necked Phalarope

[Pat Martin]

Hi All,We were indeed correct that our Phalarope today was a different bird than the one Dave Kennedy had yesterday. See his ebird report from today, which contains lovely pictures (in good light) of our male or molting female bird.Pat Martin-Original Message-
From: David Nicosia 
Sent: May 29, 2018 8:46 PM
To: Cayuga birds , NY Birds , broomebi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Today May 29th, 2018- Red Knot, Red-Necked Phalarope

All, I had a change of plans and am not going to the NJ coast for shorebirds. So I decided to try Montezuma again for shorebirds and amazingly I had a pretty awesome day.  Good weather usually doesn't mean rare birds for me. That was false today! First stop was Tschache Pool Tower and I could see a fair number of mainly peeps very distant with one larger shorebird. It was very shimmery so I decided to go to Rte 89 and look from there. At this time I was unaware of Dave Kennedy's earlier report of a Red Knot here. So I looked from Rte 89 and saw the grouping of shorebirds but they were too close to the top of the weeds on the dike so I couldn't ID much. Then an eagle flew over and the birds took flight and I got great views of a RED KNOT in breeding plumage with the peeps. The peeps flew around a couple more times and the Knot stayed in with them offering great scope views in flight. Then I went back to the tower as they appeared to be closer than earlier. Maybe I could get a better look. But I was fortunate enough to run into  Pete Sar and 

Jackie Baker  who were doing the refuge survey at Tschache. They were gracious enough to let me ride with them and I got much closer views of this great bird. The irony is that is the main specie I go for to see in NJ! The list for Tschache that I compiled can be found here with poor photos of the knot. The shimmer was awful.  https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46130168Then after this, I headed over to wildlife drive and there are still 7 REDHEADS main pool, one GREATER YELLOWLEGS Seneca Flats. The Snowy Egret was not present at Eaton at this time. Benning Marsh was fairly quiet too. Then I hit the north side of the drive and, WOW, a large flock of shorebirds!  Most of the birds were SEMIPALMATED SANDPIPERS.  There were also quite a few DUNLIN including one still in basic / non-breeding plumage. I found at least 5 WHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPERS but it was hard to keep track of numbers as the birds were flying around from mudflat to mudflat across from the Eagle sculpture. Then, I got on a RED-NECKED PHALAROPE!  Jay texted me that there was one on wildlife drive yesterday. So I assumed this was the same one. But looking at photos of yesterday vs today, this one was duller. Not sure if it is a male or a duller female. In any event, another great bird!!  Who needs to go to NJ!!  This was a ton of fun and it was great birding with Ann Mitchell and Pat Martin as they joined me at the thruway ponds to see the Phalarope! My list is below for wildlife drive with poor photos of the RNPH and others(lighting was horrible): https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46135318Best, Dave Nicosia

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR Tschache Pool Spring Shorebird Walk May 26th, 2018

[psaracin]

Thanks to YOU Dave for taking the time and energy and talent to set this up. 
Great experience with lots of good, knowledgeable people. I've definitely grown 
in my confidence with  shorebird identification.See you again in late 
summer!Pete Sar


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 Original message From: David Nicosia  
Date: 5/27/18  9:59 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: NY Birds , 
Cayuga birds , broomebi...@googlegroups.com Cc: "Van 
Beusichem, Andrea" , "Ziemba, Linda" 
 Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR Tschache Pool 
Spring Shorebird Walk May 26th, 2018 
All, 
We had an awesome turnout for the second spring shorebird walk along part of 
the restricted area of Tschache Pool.  I estimated at least 45 people as some 
came later and others left  earlier. There were 27 cars parked at the parking 
area by the tower at Tschache at one point! This was the second walk for the 
spring shorebird season at Tschache allowed by the Montezuma Refuge staff. Much 
thanks to 

Andrea VanBeusichem for organizing these walks.  
The weather was very warm and humid and after a string of warm days and south 
winds we did't have the numbers of shorebirds as last week as many have moved 
on. However, we still had 9 species of shorebirds which offered excellent looks 
including close views of BLACK-BELLIED PLOVER, DUNLIN (breeding plumage), 
WHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPER (breeding plumage), SEMIPALMATED and LEAST SANDPIPERS. 
There was also a nice adult breeding EURASIAN WIGEON. We had many top-notch 
birders along which made a big difference in finding birds and teaching people 
about shorebirds for such a large group. I couldn't have done this alone.  A 
BIG thanks to these folks.  I would also like to thank Mike DeWispelaere who 
came up with me all the way from Norwich and took some nice photos and kept the 
checklist. We totaled 72 species many of which we heard in the woods adjacent 
to Tschache. 
Our ebird list can be found here with 
photoshttps://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46038624

Best,Dave Nicosia 





 


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Red-necked Phalarope and more.

[Peter]

Mike and allon our Tuesday weekly survey at the refuge we 
counted 46 bald eagles at various spots along the wildlife drive. Only 2 
were adults.


Pete Sar


On 9/5/2017 8:57 PM, metet...@gmail.com wrote:

 This afternoon Dominic Sherony and a I visited the Martens Tract overlook 
for the previously reported Red-necked and Wilson's Phalaropes seen as recently 
as this am. We found the Red-necked but no Wilson's. The water level was up a 
lot from the day before and birds were leaving as we watched. 1 Stilt and 1 
White-rumped Sandpiper were the remaining highlights. A Merlin passing through 
twice didn't help. An American Bittern flushed from the grasses along the dike 
to the east.
  On to the main pool. The visitor center "pond" had been partially plowed 
and is waiting for water. The highlight along the first leg of the wildlife drive was the 
24(at least) Bald Eagles perched on just about every snag along the river. This combined 
with 15 more at Knox-Marcellus marsh was amazing. We did not scan nesting sites and only 
saw 1 adult so many more out there somewhere. The main pool had good numbers of American 
Wigeon newly added to the couple hundred Coot.
 Benning Marsh had good habitat with 1 White-rumped and several Stilt 
sandpipers giving close views. Along the thruway a Peregrine Falcon harassed a 
Harrier then failed at a pass at a small flock of Peep overhead.
 The north end of Knox-Marcellus marsh was very birdy! The water was up a 
lot from the weekend and waterfowl numbers were back up to earlier numbers but 
with greater numbers of Am. Wigeon and Northern Pintail joining the increasing 
Teal and Mallard numbers. Lesser Yellowlegs and Pectoral Sandpiper groups 
arrived and left as we watched. We found another Red- necked Phalarope for the 
highlight but lost it in the Eagle caused shuffles. Great habitat so it should 
be a great spot with the upcoming weather changes. Dominic has entered ebird 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Today

[Jay McGowan]

The EURASIAN WIGEON was still in Knox-Marsellus this afternoon, towards the
south side of the marsh viewed from East Road. We found another male
EURASIAN WIGEON in the mostly Aythya flock at the north end of Cayuga Lake
viewed from the north bend of Lake Rd. in Canoga, north of Cayuga Lake
State Park. Otherwise nothing of note around Montezuma other than
unnaturally high numbers of dabbling ducks and blackbirds.

Jay

On Feb 24, 2017 8:04 PM, "bob mcguire"  wrote:

> Diane, Ken, and I took part in the Montezuma waterfowl count this morning.
> Our territory was Knox-Marsellus and Puddlers Marsh. Both areas were
> entirely ice-free and harbored a large number of birds. Several thousand
> Snow Geese took off from K-M as we arrived and flew north into the
> Mucklands. What remained was a good selection: Mallards and Black Ducks,
> Northern Pintail, Green-winged Teal and Northern Shovelers, Gadwall,
> American Wigeon and a single EURASIAN WIGEON. Also a dozen Tundra Swans,
> two Hooded Mergansers and a single Wood Duck.
>
> None of the counters reported Sandhill Cranes. One of them had a single
> Common Loon at Kip’s Marsh.
>
> On the way home we noted hundreds (if not thousands) of Tundra Swans in
> the water north of the RR tracks - and a huge flock of diving ducks at the
> north end of the lake, out from Harris Park in the Village of Cayuga.
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Ravens, Cattle Egrets, Sandhill Cranes, Rough-legged Hawks

[Kenneth V. Rosenberg]

To this report, I can add a drake EURASIAN WIGEON that I was finally able to 
pick on the back edge of the huge duck flock on the Main Pool. Fantastic 
numbers of waterfowl this morning, tripping the eBird filters for Gadwall, Am 
Wigeon, Redhead, and Ruddy Duck. The 8 CATTLE EGRETS were at Goose Haven at 
11:30 am, as well.

KEN


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Office: 607-254-2412
cell: 607-342-4594
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On Nov 13, 2016, at 7:27 PM, Michael Tetlow 
mailto:metet...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This afternoon we started a short Montezuma tour with the Goose Haven field 
with decoys and no egrets. Trying to think of a nearby farm, around 2pm, we 
found the horse farm on East Tyre Road south of Lay road and now up to 8 Cattle 
Egrets (as reported by Ken on The Cayuga text alert flying SW over the main 
pool early this morning) from the original 7.  As we left the refuge area 
around 4:40 all 8 were back at goose haven on route 89. The visitor center had 
1 killdeer for our only shorebird species and only one Snow Goose still.  2 
Common Ravens soared up from the woods to  SW and flew right over the visitor 
center. 1 Dark Rough-legged Hawk drifted to the SE.  Another light morph was at 
the NW corner of the main pool marsh. (4 Rough-legs were seen there yesterday 
by Dan Niven Chris wood and Brian Sullivan). Hitting Knox-Marcellus at 4:00  
with 3 tries I counted  70 then 71 Sandhill cranes.(others counted 70 
yesterday.Mike and Joann Tetlow
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma yesterday

[david nicosia]

Thanks Dave. 
Here are the ebird lists for Wildlife drive and Morgan Rd Marshes
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S31270051


http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S31272205


Dave Nicosia



  From: Dave Nutter 
 To: Cayuga Birds ; "Van Beusichem, Andrea" 
 
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 8:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma yesterday
   
PS: The next schedule public shorebird trip is on Sunday September 11, led by 
Mike Tetlow from Rochester, and meeting at the refuge visitor center at 
10:00am. On Labor Day weekend no one signed up to lead a public shorebird trip 
at Montezuma NWR, so everyone is on their own. However, keep in mind that the 
dikes around impoundments on the DEC lands to the north are generally open to 
walking. 
PPS: Another cool report yesterday was of an active family of 2 adult and 2 
juvenile Red-headed Woodpeckers along South Mays Point road in the stand of 
dead trees where they nested in years past.--Dave Nutter
On Aug 28, 2016, at 08:28 AM, Dave Nutter  wrote:


I went on Dave Nicosia's Montezuma shorebird trip yesterday morning (Sat 28 
Aug), which first toured the refuge Wildlife Drive. At the Seneca Slough we saw 
a Lesser Yellowlegs and 2 each of Solitary Sandpiper and Spotted Sandpiper 
(with and without spots). At Seneca Flats, Dave and perhaps a few others 
briefly saw 2 Stilt Sandpipers. Everyone had great looks at Greater & Lesser 
Yellowlegs, Least Sandpipers, and Killdeer. Later, another group saw a Pectoral 
Sandpiper and a Baird's Sandpiper there. At Benning many of us saw a Wilson's 
Snipe. 
We next went to Morgan Road in Savannah, following up on reports of Stilt 
Sandpiper. Although no shorebirds were apparent in the river near the boat 
launch, there were some distant shorebirds along the marsh edges of the large 
impoundment northeast of the DEC headquarters. A hike northeast along the dike 
eventually provided excellent scope views of juveniles of several Stilt 
Sandpipers, at least 1 Long-billed and 3 Short-billed Dowitchers, plus Lesser 
Yellowlegs together. Also present were Greater Yellowlegs, a brief visit by a 
few Least Sandpipers, and a couple of Semipalmated Plovers who flew in calling. 
I just want to point out a couple things. First, this was a wonderful 
opportunity to compare and ID the tricky dowitcher duo in their lovely juvenile 
plumage and also get to know Stilt Sandpipers alongside the dowitchers and 
yellowlegs. Second, the Long-billed Dowitcher stops here on its way to and from 
the north & west coast of Alaska or adjacent parts of the arctic coast of 
Canada and Siberia. Not only is this a helluva trip, but these were 
unaccompanied babies who had just hatched maybe 3 months ago.
The Stilt Sandpipers could have come from the north shore of Alaska, but their 
breeding range also extends east and includes the south shore of Hudson Bay. 
Short-billed Dowitchers breed across a wide area of mid-latitude Canada in 
northern Québec, the south shore of Hudson bay, the northern part of the plains 
provinces and adjacent Northwest Territories, plus the south shore of Alaska. 
Baird's Sandpiper is another far northern breeder, whose range includes the 
north half of Alaska and the Arctic coastline of Canada plus *all* those 
islands in Nunavut including Baffin & Ellesmere. To me, one of the neat things 
about birding is making these contacts with faraway places. 
Another minor discovery on this impoundment was an immature Common Gallinule 
which had multiple big white stripes on both its wings. If anyone else sees 
this Zebra Gallinule, I'm interested to hear when & where, just for the fun of 
tracking an individual bird. 
And speaking of individual birds, here's another challenge. I saw many 
non-breeding plumage Teal yesterday, both Green-winged and Blue-winged, which 
are fun to ID at rest and more rewarding to see as they fly, even though I 
don't like flushing them. As you look at small drab ducks, keep an eye out for 
the male Garganey that was at Knox-Marsellus this spring. In eclipse plumage he 
should have multiple horizontal blackish and whitish stripes through the face, 
and in flight the secondaries should show a white trailing edge. --Dave 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma yesterday

[Dave Nutter]

PS: The next schedule public shorebird trip is on Sunday September 11, led by 
Mike Tetlow from Rochester, and meeting at the refuge visitor center at 
10:00am. On Labor Day weekend no one signed up to lead a public shorebird trip 
at Montezuma NWR, so everyone is on their own. However, keep in mind that the 
dikes around impoundments on the DEC lands to the north are generally open to 
walking. 

PPS: Another cool report yesterday was of an active family of 2 adult and 2 
juvenile Red-headed Woodpeckers along South Mays Point road in the stand of 
dead trees where they nested in years past.
--Dave Nutter

On Aug 28, 2016, at 08:28 AM, Dave Nutter  wrote:

I went on Dave Nicosia's Montezuma shorebird trip yesterday morning (Sat 28 
Aug), which first toured the refuge Wildlife Drive. At the Seneca Slough we saw 
a Lesser Yellowlegs and 2 each of Solitary Sandpiper and Spotted Sandpiper 
(with and without spots). At Seneca Flats, Dave and perhaps a few others 
briefly saw 2 Stilt Sandpipers. Everyone had great looks at Greater & Lesser 
Yellowlegs, Least Sandpipers, and Killdeer. Later, another group saw a Pectoral 
Sandpiper and a Baird's Sandpiper there. At Benning many of us saw a Wilson's 
Snipe. 

We next went to Morgan Road in Savannah, following up on reports of Stilt 
Sandpiper. Although no shorebirds were apparent in the river near the boat 
launch, there were some distant shorebirds along the marsh edges of the large 
impoundment northeast of the DEC headquarters. A hike northeast along the dike 
eventually provided excellent scope views of juveniles of several Stilt 
Sandpipers, at least 1 Long-billed and 3 Short-billed Dowitchers, plus Lesser 
Yellowlegs together. Also present were Greater Yellowlegs, a brief visit by a 
few Least Sandpipers, and a couple of Semipalmated Plovers who flew in calling. 

I just want to point out a couple things. First, this was a wonderful 
opportunity to compare and ID the tricky dowitcher duo in their lovely juvenile 
plumage and also get to know Stilt Sandpipers alongside the dowitchers and 
yellowlegs. Second, the Long-billed Dowitcher stops here on its way to and from 
the north & west coast of Alaska or adjacent parts of the arctic coast of 
Canada and Siberia. Not only is this a helluva trip, but these were 
unaccompanied babies who had just hatched maybe 3 months ago.

The Stilt Sandpipers could have come from the north shore of Alaska, but their 
breeding range also extends east and includes the south shore of Hudson Bay. 
Short-billed Dowitchers breed across a wide area of mid-latitude Canada in 
northern Québec, the south shore of Hudson bay, the northern part of the plains 
provinces and adjacent Northwest Territories, plus the south shore of Alaska. 
Baird's Sandpiper is another far northern breeder, whose range includes the 
north half of Alaska and the Arctic coastline of Canada plus *all* those 
islands in Nunavut including Baffin & Ellesmere. To me, one of the neat things 
about birding is making these contacts with faraway places. 

Another minor discovery on this impoundment was an immature Common Gallinule 
which had multiple big white stripes on both its wings. If anyone else sees 
this Zebra Gallinule, I'm interested to hear when & where, just for the fun of 
tracking an individual bird. 

And speaking of individual birds, here's another challenge. I saw many 
non-breeding plumage Teal yesterday, both Green-winged and Blue-winged, which 
are fun to ID at rest and more rewarding to see as they fly, even though I 
don't like flushing them. As you look at small drab ducks, keep an eye out for 
the male Garganey that was at Knox-Marsellus this spring. In eclipse plumage he 
should have multiple horizontal blackish and whitish stripes through the face, 
and in flight the secondaries should show a white trailing edge. 
--Dave Nutter
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[cayugabirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Shorebird Trip Report for July 31st, 2016

[Dave Nutter]

Sorry for the late report. There were 5 of us on my part of the trip. We 
started at the overlook on East Road, walked down onto the dikes, going east 
along the north side of both Knox-Marsellus and Puddler, returned from the end 
of Towpath Road along the tire tracks next to the power line (which was a bit 
more overgrown than I wished), then walked north on the dike at the base of the 
hill along the west side of K-M. Then we went to South Mays Point Road, then 
did the Wildlife Drive.



By now you have all surmised that I did not properly ID the rare juvenile 
YELLOW-CROWNED NIGHT-HERON yesterday, assuming it to have been the common 
Black-crowned. Clearly I don't have enough experience with this plumage, but 
I'm getting it now! I should have recognized the classic shape & posture. It 
stood with its neck stretched vertically and thin, but head & bill horizontal. 
We debated the ID, and Mark Miller took photos. He asked if he should show them 
to Jay, and I said "sure," but I can't claim to have said it with the proper 
sense of urgency. The whitish spots on the back were small equilateral 
triangles, intermediate between the long triangles which Sibley shows for 
Black-crowned and the tiny dots he shows for Yellow-crowned. It also showed 
light at the base of the lower bill, which I thought Y-C shouldn't have, but 
Jay says it's common. Had juveniles of the two species been together I think 
would have recognized it, but that's a lame claim. I feel particularly bad 
about blowing the ID because the bird was only visible from the dike, not from 
the roads. We found it (I think Mark noticed it first) around 10am, plenty 
early enough for other people to have come look at it by joining the field trip 
on the dikes where we had temporary permission, had I gotten the word out.  It 
stood next to a small sunken pool within the triangular intersection of dikes 
at the NE corner of K-M and the NW corner of Puddler. It seemed unconcerned 
about us, barely turning its head and occasionally blinking its huge orange 
eye. It remained there when we left. I think it was a young bird because it had 
several hairlike feathers sticking out of its crown which I thought were 
remnants of down.  If this is correct it would suggest the bird was raised 
nearby this year, which is also pretty cool.



Now for some other distractions. We saw the pair of adult SANDHILL CRANES out 
in the tall vegetation in the middle of K-M, and with them, barely visible only 
sometimes, was the head of the chick. If it grows faster than the weeds, 
eventually we will get better views.



There were at least 21 CASPIAN TERNS on the mud at K-M, 5 of whom were 
juveniles.



At South Mays Point Road we saw two adults and one fledgling RED-HEADED 
WOODPECKER. This was from the parking lot along the Clyde River downstream from 
the dam and the bridge. Just east of this parking lot is a huge dead tree. That 
tree is where we saw the birds together, and where I have seen the adults 
previously this season, but I think their nest was somewhere to the SW of that 
tree in those woods between the river and Mays Point Pool. We lost sight of 
them when all 3 flew toward and possibly across the river. The fledgling had a 
dark head (not bright red like the adults) and the white patch on the closed 
wing had a narrow dark stripe across near the bottom. Unfortunately I only had 
a binocular view, not a scope view before it flew.



More distractions: We saw a possible family of ROSE-BREASTED GROSBEAKS (1 male 
with reduced tail, along with 3 female/immature plumage birds) eating 
Nightshade berries along the woods side of the power line cut next to Towpath 
Road.


And we saw at least 8 GREEN HERONS, probably more, as well as an adult 
BLACK-CROWNED NIGHT-HERON, along the dike at the SW corner of K-M.



On to shorebirds. As I told Dave Nicosia by text, they were sparse at K-M. 
Because so much of the water has evaporated, and vegetation has covered so much 
of the land, the wet mud habitat is mainly a long narrow strip, The shorebirds 
we saw seemed flighty. Maybe it was our presence, or maybe they were just 
uncomfortable there, or maybe they hoped to find some better place. We saw at 
least 3 KILLDEER, 2 SEMIPALMATED PLOVERS, 1 SPOTTED SANDPIPER, 1 GREATER 
YELLOWLEGS, heard LESSER YELLOWLEGS but I only saw 2 birds flying away, saw a 
maximum of 10 LEAST SANDPIPERS at once but several smaller groups at other 
times, and 1 SEMIPALMATED SANDPIPER conveniently next to Least Sandpipers and 
the Semipalmated Plovers.



>From the platform at Mays Point Pool, we saw KILLDEER, SEMIPALMATED PLOVER, 
>GREATER and LESSER YELLOWLEGS, a STILT SANPIPER in breeding plumage found by 
>Menachem Goldstein, PECTORAL SANDPIPERS, LEAST SANDPIPERS, and at least 8 
>breeding plumage DOWITCHERS only 1 of which was out in the open enough to feel 
>confident it was a SHORT-BILLED. The others were among the stubble of old 
>reeds, and still fascinating to watch, even if the sub

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Shorebirds and Others Tuesday July 5th 2016

[Peter]

David, Kevin et al.

With respect to arctic breeding waterfowl spending their summers in the 
Finger Lakes, we here in the northern art of the pbasin have seen a 
small group (about 12-14) of snow geese hanging around the north part of 
Seneca Lake around Geneva, NY.

Pete Saracino


On 7/5/2016 6:27 PM, Kevin J. McGowan wrote:
>
> David,
>
>
> Thanks for posting. Glad you got a decent photo of the Tundra Swan. On 
> 5 June 2016, when I made the run for the Garganey, I saw a single swan 
> in the marsh that I identified at the time as Tundra. Its eyes were 
> too prominent for Trumpeter, in my opinion, but everyone else called 
> it a Trumpeter. After discussion with my son, I downgraded my report 
> to swan sp., citing lack of evidence. It was a long way away, I got no 
> photos, and frankly, I was paying a lot more attention to looking for 
> the rare duck. But, deep in my heart-of-hearts, I thought it was an 
> out-of-place-and-time Tundra Swan.
>
>
> This is not the first of the species to be recorded in the area over 
> the summer, but it's still a pretty rare occurrence and worthy of 
> note. How many other, probably young or injured, arctic-breeding 
> waterfowl winter well south of the breeding grounds? Just like the 
> White-winged Scoter observation and discussion on Long Island, if we 
> pay enough attention we might find out some interesting new things.
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
> Kevin McGowan
>
> Ithaca, NY
>
>
>
> 
> *From:* bounce-120607526-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
>  on behalf of David Nicosia 
> 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 5, 2016 5:20 PM
> *To:* CAYUGABIRDS-L; NYSBIRDS-L; broomebi...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Shorebirds and Others Tuesday 
> July 5th 2016
> Had the day off so went to Montezuma from mid morning to mid afternoon 
> Today.
> Even though the heat of summer continues to build fall shorebird 
> migration has begun
> as others have noted. Started at Knox-Marcellus Marsh from Towpath Rd. 
> Road is dry so not
> as bad but still very uneven with giant potholes ("pot"hole is an 
> understatement in places!!!).
>
> LESSER YELLOWLEGS have been very common. I estimated about 200 birds. 
> There were
> at least a few GREATER YELLOWLEGS but by far LESSER predominate. Also 
> there were
> several flocks of peeps with many hiding down low in the mud and 
> emergent vegetation. They
> were all LEAST SANDPIPERS except for 2 nice PECTORAL SANDPIPERS. I 
> could have
> missed others as there were so many distant birds. There were also 
> many KILLDEER
> some with young, at least 10 SPOTTED SANDPIPERS around, and 7 
> DOWITCHER sp.
> that have been seen and IDed as Long-Billed. They were very distant 
> for me as some looked
> like they had that "hump" shape but again distance was my problem. I 
> was able to digi-scope
> these guys through my scope on 70X and got some poor images. If 
> someone can point out
> any discernable field marks on these dowitchers please share offline 
> to my email address.
> Photos are below.
>
> The CASPIAN TERNS are increasing and at one point I had 22, 17 on the 
> ground and 5 flying around.
> There were 13 BLACK TERNS. I managed a nice photo of one in flight.
>
> In addition to the shorebirds and terns, I had a TUNDRA SWAN!! This 
> bird had a smaller more curved
> bill, the eye was separate from the bill and most telling was a light 
> yellow dot at the front of the eye!!
> There was also a TRUMPETER SWAN for comparison. Additionally, the 
> lingering 2 SNOW GEESE
> continue and I also had a male REDHEAD molting toward its eclipse 
> plumage at Puddler's marsh
> from Towpath road. Photos are below.
>
> Wildlife drive was fairly quiet, lots of MARSH WRENS, the SOLITARY 
> SANDPIPER is back in his spot
> in that little stream before Larue's and Eaton Marsh has mainly LESSER 
> YELLOWLEGS.
>
> For my ebird lists see 
> http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S30543854 
> 
> http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S30544721 
> 
> For my photos of the day see... 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/davenicosia/albums/72157670005509232
>
> Best,
> Dave Nicosia
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Shorebirds and Others Tuesday July 5th 2016

[Kevin J. McGowan]

David,


Thanks for posting. Glad you got a decent photo of the Tundra Swan. On 5 June 
2016, when I made the run for the Garganey, I saw a single swan in the marsh 
that I identified at the time as Tundra. Its eyes were too prominent for 
Trumpeter, in my opinion, but everyone else called it a Trumpeter. After 
discussion with my son, I downgraded my report to swan sp., citing lack of 
evidence. It was a long way away, I got no photos, and frankly, I was paying a 
lot more attention to looking for the rare duck. But, deep in my 
heart-of-hearts, I thought it was an out-of-place-and-time Tundra Swan.


This is not the first of the species to be recorded in the area over the 
summer, but it's still a pretty rare occurrence and worthy of note. How many 
other, probably young or injured, arctic-breeding waterfowl winter well south 
of the breeding grounds? Just like the White-winged Scoter observation and 
discussion on Long Island, if we pay enough attention we might find out some 
interesting new things.


Best,


Kevin


Kevin McGowan

Ithaca, NY



From: bounce-120607526-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of David Nicosia 

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 5:20 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L; NYSBIRDS-L; broomebi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Shorebirds and Others Tuesday July 5th 2016

Had the day off so went to Montezuma from mid morning to mid afternoon Today.
Even though the heat of summer continues to build fall shorebird migration has 
begun
as others have noted. Started at Knox-Marcellus Marsh from Towpath Rd. Road is 
dry so not
as bad but still very uneven with giant potholes ("pot"hole is an 
understatement in places!!!).

LESSER YELLOWLEGS have been very common. I estimated about 200 birds. There were
at least a few GREATER YELLOWLEGS but by far LESSER predominate. Also there were
several flocks of peeps with many hiding down low in the mud and emergent 
vegetation. They
were all LEAST SANDPIPERS except for 2 nice PECTORAL SANDPIPERS. I could have
missed others as there were so many distant birds. There were also many KILLDEER
some with young, at least 10 SPOTTED SANDPIPERS around, and 7 DOWITCHER sp.
that have been seen and IDed as Long-Billed. They were very distant for me as 
some looked
like they had that "hump" shape but again distance was my problem. I was able 
to digi-scope
these guys through my scope on 70X and got some poor images. If someone can 
point out
any discernable field marks on these dowitchers please share offline to my 
email address.
Photos are below.

The CASPIAN TERNS are increasing and at one point I had 22, 17 on the ground 
and 5 flying around.
There were 13 BLACK TERNS. I managed a nice photo of one in flight.

In addition to the shorebirds and terns, I had a TUNDRA SWAN!! This bird had a 
smaller more curved
bill, the eye was separate from the bill and most telling was a light yellow 
dot at the front of the eye!!
There was also a TRUMPETER SWAN for comparison. Additionally, the lingering 2 
SNOW GEESE
continue and I also had a male REDHEAD molting toward its eclipse plumage at 
Puddler's marsh
from Towpath road. Photos are below.

Wildlife drive was fairly quiet, lots of MARSH WRENS, the SOLITARY SANDPIPER is 
back in his spot
in that little stream before Larue's and Eaton Marsh has mainly LESSER 
YELLOWLEGS.

For my ebird lists see http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S30543854

   
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S30544721

For my photos of the day see...  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davenicosia/albums/72157670005509232

Best,
Dave Nicosia

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma shorebirds

[Kenneth V. Rosenberg]

Fall shorebirds already-- nice!  Several Ruffs, Rufous-necked Stint elsewhere 
already too.

Ken

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On Jul 2, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Jay McGowan 
mailto:jw...@cornell.edu>> wrote:


A gorgeous alternate female WILSON'S PHALAROPE is currently out on the flats in 
the northeast corner of Knox-Marsellus Marsh, along with dozens of yellowlegs 
and two dowitchers, apparently LONG-BILLED. The RED-HEADED WOODPECKERS are also 
being more cooperative than in past weeks, foraging in trees and feeders just 
north of the bridge at Mays Point.

Jay

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

[Dave Nutter]

Yesterday there were also some Greater Yellowlegs near the NW corner of 
Knox-Marsellus visible in a quick scan from East Rd.

--Dave Nutter

On Apr 14, 2016, at 08:46 PM, bob mcguire  wrote:


For leaders and participants on this weekend’s Montezuma SFO trip - I scouted 
several of the traditional hot spots in the Montezuma Complex this afternoon. 
Shorebird habitat is limited, with Yellowlegs only in Eaton Marsh and Carncross 
Rd. Eaton had a couple of Dunlin, and the beginning of West Loop Rd had one 
Pectoral Sandpiper.

The corn field at Carncross Rd is nearly dry, with distant ducks and one 
Sandhill Crane. I did flush my first (of year) American Bittern at Marten’s 
Tract.

Earlier in the day I drove through the Lott property (Empire Farms Days) just 
south of Seneca Falls. No Upland Sandpipers, but several Kestrels and Killdeer.

Bob McGuire
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Area Today 4/8/16

[Ann Mitchell]

There was a lone Caspian Tern at Myers Point this afternoon. A young Herring 
Gull chased it for awhile. The Tern flew towards the back side of Salt Point 
out of sight. Hopefully it returned to the spit.
Ann

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2016, at 8:50 PM, David Nicosia  wrote:
> 
> Had the day off so went up to Montezuma in the hopes of getting some early 
> shorebirds.
> Started at Carncross Rd. When I first arrived there were only yellowlegs, 
> both species
> in the mudflats. Easy to find. I then heard some PECTORAL SANDPIPERS. These 
> birds
> were in the grasses and mud in the middle and hard to find at first. When I 
> got on them I couldn't believe how many there were. I counted at least 66. 
> There may have been more. Many were hidden, roosting in the grasses, some 
> were feeding and many preening. This is the most PESA that I have seen during 
> spring migration. I also heard a DUNLIN here.
> 
> I then stopped at Muckrace Flats, the Mucklands, East Road, MNWR Visitor's 
> center
> and wildlife drive.  All spots that I went to there were many many 
> GREEN-WINGED TEALS, lots of NORTHERN PINTAILS, NORTHERN SHOVELERS and 
> BLUE-WINGED TEALS among other species. Wildlife drive had some nice RUDDY 
> DUCKS close to the road including a male in breeding plumage.  I saw my FOY 
> CASPIAN TERNS at Eaton Marsh. There were also 3 DUNLIN at Eaton and both 
> species of yellowlegs.
> 
> Here are some photos of my day. 
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/davenicosia/albums/72157666817102571
> 
> My ebird lists
> 
> http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S28812933
> 
> http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S28812764
> 
> http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S28812919
> 
> http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S28813419
> 
> http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S28813666
> 
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> 
> Good luck to all who are out this weekend.
> 
> Dave Nicosia
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Visitor Center

[Peter]

Ann and all.
A week ago I visited 8 eagle nests in the northern part of our "range" 
(ranging from west to Geneva to east to the refuge and south to Aurora, 
NY). We found eagles on 7 of the 8 nests. Today I visited the only nest 
that had no eagles on or near it the day we monitored (Packwood Rd. a 
bit east and north of Geneva, NY) and found both birds in the nest!
So we have 8 for 8 (not to mention the two nests on a part of the Refuge 
we're not normally allowed on.)

I hope these birds have LOTS of little ones!!!
Pete Sar


On 3/31/2016 6:52 PM, Ann Mitchell wrote:

I arrived there sometime after 3:00. Dave got there shortly after I did 
(unplanned but like minded). Shorebirds included one Dunlin, one Pectoral 
Sandpiper, one Lesser Yellowlegs, and at least three Killdeer. Two Wilson's 
Snipe were also nearby. The Pectoral Sandpiper and Dunlin stayed close together.
Good birding,
Ann

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!! - out of car thread...

[Melanie Uhlir]

Photo/viewing blinds would be great! Especially since we can't all beg 
Kevin to take us birding with him. Haha!


I wonder what the steps to getting this idea made into a reality would 
be. Probably additional funds for building such a thing would be needed.


On 10/18/2015 6:53 PM, Kimberly Sucy wrote:

The whole "out of the car" issue is why I wish there were photo/viewng blinds 
in the area across the road, where people could pull off the main drive into the old 
trail parking lot and share scopes, provide assistance, and take photos without 
obstructing the view of passing cars or disturbing wildlife unduly.As someone who has 
led field trips with a caravan of cars and who has attempted to point out bird locations 
to new birders using bad bins while talking over FRS radios, this would be a HUGE 
improvement!   Eaton Marsh in particular is a wonderful shorebird spot, but horrible for 
new birders without great optics or fully developed spotting skills.

And I saw baby Rails this year too - outside my car, in the designated viewing 
spot at Benning Marsh.

-kimberly

On Oct 18, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Marie P. Read wrote:


As one those darned bird photographers, and at risk of being labelled a 
killjoy, I feel must make a comment here.

Kevin wrote:


My heart sinks at this, because I see those baby Virginia Rails and definitely 
that shy Least Bittern immediately fleeing at the sight of a lot of people 
suddenly and excitedly exiting their cars. Unless the birds were at a distance 
and the flagger were using a scope.
Sigh!

Marie



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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!! - out of car thread...

[Glenn Wilson]

I do not mind staying in my car.

However, EVERY TIME I drive through the wildlife drive, Several vehicle's
worth of people do get out and this simply isn't fair.

Glenn

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[mailto:bounce-119792525-25849...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Diana
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 8:27 PM
To: Kevin J. McGowan
Cc: Marie P. Read; Dave Nutter; Van Beusichem, Andrea; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!! - out of car
thread...

Van Dyne Spoor, the ponds at Railroad St, the platform on Savannah Springs
Rd., Esker Brook.   I guess my real point is the drive is the only place
where you can't be out of a vehicle.  A blind would solve a lot of issues
and I agree that the one there, while put in with good intentions, is not
really useful with its southern view. I wish our birds were tolerant like
Florida, but they just aren't and when people are out of their car they
flee. The drive does provide spots to get out of the car, but everyone
jumping out wherever they want to just leaves nothing for people coming
afterwards. The flock of Dunlins I saw flying did not return to Eaton Marsh
even after a couple hours. Believe me, I am all for engaging people young
and old in the wonders of birds, but some of us like to observe behavior
that is only earned by having a low profile.

Respectfully,
 Diana

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> On Oct 18, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Kevin J. McGowan  wrote:
> 
> From: Diana [mailto:whiti...@roadrunner.com] " Surely with so many 
> places on the refuge where you can get out of the car, ..."
> 
> Seriously? Where? You know the refuge. If you wanted to take a small group
to see some birds, where would you go? Where could you get anywhere near
close enough to anything interesting to engage a 10-year-old? The corral at
Mays Point used to have birds, but there hasn't been habitat there for
years. The towers and East Road have great stuff, but it's so far away you
can't show a beginner anything. I'm a photographer and I take almost all of
my photos from my car/blind. But, if we're talking education here, it just
isn't happening.
> 
> For exposure to wildlife at all levels, access is key. Denying access to
even a tiny sliver of the refuge serves no one's best interests, in my view.
Blinds would be cool, and are used successfully all over the world, but they
can't face south straight into the sun!
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!! - out of car thread...

[Diana]

Van Dyne Spoor, the ponds at Railroad St, the platform on Savannah Springs Rd., 
Esker Brook.   I guess my real point is the drive is the only place where you 
can't be out of a vehicle.  A blind would solve a lot of issues and I agree 
that the one there, while put in with good intentions, is not really useful 
with its southern view. I wish our birds were tolerant like Florida, but they 
just aren't and when people are out of their car they flee. The drive does 
provide spots to get out of the car, but everyone jumping out wherever they 
want to just leaves nothing for people coming afterwards. The flock of Dunlins 
I saw flying did not return to Eaton Marsh even after a couple hours. Believe 
me, I am all for engaging people young and old in the wonders of birds, but 
some of us like to observe behavior that is only earned by having a low profile.

Respectfully,
 Diana

Diana Whiting
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> On Oct 18, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Kevin J. McGowan  wrote:
> 
> From: Diana [mailto:whiti...@roadrunner.com] 
> " Surely with so many places on the refuge where you can get out of the car, 
> ..."
> 
> Seriously? Where? You know the refuge. If you wanted to take a small group to 
> see some birds, where would you go? Where could you get anywhere near close 
> enough to anything interesting to engage a 10-year-old? The corral at Mays 
> Point used to have birds, but there hasn't been habitat there for years. The 
> towers and East Road have great stuff, but it's so far away you can't show a 
> beginner anything. I'm a photographer and I take almost all of my photos from 
> my car/blind. But, if we're talking education here, it just isn't happening.
> 
> For exposure to wildlife at all levels, access is key. Denying access to even 
> a tiny sliver of the refuge serves no one's best interests, in my view. 
> Blinds would be cool, and are used successfully all over the world, but they 
> can't face south straight into the sun!
> 
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!! - out of car thread...

[Kevin J. McGowan]

From: Diana [mailto:whiti...@roadrunner.com] 
" Surely with so many places on the refuge where you can get out of the car, 
..."

Seriously? Where? You know the refuge. If you wanted to take a small group to 
see some birds, where would you go? Where could you get anywhere near close 
enough to anything interesting to engage a 10-year-old? The corral at Mays 
Point used to have birds, but there hasn't been habitat there for years. The 
towers and East Road have great stuff, but it's so far away you can't show a 
beginner anything. I'm a photographer and I take almost all of my photos from 
my car/blind. But, if we're talking education here, it just isn't happening.

For exposure to wildlife at all levels, access is key. Denying access to even a 
tiny sliver of the refuge serves no one's best interests, in my view. Blinds 
would be cool, and are used successfully all over the world, but they can't 
face south straight into the sun!

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!! - out of car thread...

[Diana]

Hi All,
 I might as well put my head on the chopping block here too. As a photographer, 
I have to agree with Marie. Today there was hardly a bird within distance to 
photograph, and catching up with the people in front of me, they were all out 
of the car with scopes. There were no shorebirds left and I saw some fly by in 
their wake. Seeing birds in a scope is not nearly as satisfying as observing 
their behavior up close. Surely with so many places on the refuge where you can 
get out of the car, there can be one where photographers and birders alike can 
enjoy the closer views by using a vehicle as a blind.

Diana Whiting




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> On Oct 18, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Marie P. Read  wrote:
> 
> As one those darned bird photographers, and at risk of being labelled a 
> killjoy, I feel must make a comment here. 
> 
> Kevin wrote:
>  stop and ask me what I’m looking at. If I could, I’d get out of my car (on 
> the passenger side) and flag people down to look at baby Virginia Rails or a 
> Least Bittern.>
> 
> My heart sinks at this, because I see those baby Virginia Rails and 
> definitely that shy Least Bittern immediately fleeing at the sight of a lot 
> of people suddenly and excitedly exiting their cars. Unless the birds were at 
> a distance and the flagger were using a scope. 
> Sigh!
> 
> Marie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> From: bounce-119792076-5851...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-119792076-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Kevin J. McGowan 
> [k...@cornell.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 4:04 PM
> To: Peter; Dave Nutter; Van Beusichem, Andrea
> Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!!
> 
> Snip: “The refuge grants this privilege - this break from the norm -  because 
> it considers it an educational opportunity/event for the visiting public - 
> one in which they can learn more about the refuge and the life it encourages. 
> “
> 
> Every birder I know is more than happy to tell anyone who asks what they’re 
> looking at and what’s cool about it. If everyone was allowed to stand outside 
> their car, looking through their scopes, the dialog, conversation, and 
> education would be constant, not just in special events.
> 
> Keeping the public in their vehicles decreases information flow and 
> potentially decreases the overall enjoyment and education of the public 
> passing through. As a compulsive educator, I find this stay-in-your-car! 
> policy to be frustrating and counter-productive. I constantly find cool birds 
> along the wildlife drive and hope someone will stop and ask me what I’m 
> looking at. If I could, I’d get out of my car (on the passenger side) and 
> flag people down to look at baby Virginia Rails or a Least Bittern.
> 
> But, I can’t do that, because I follow rules. So, I turn around in my car 
> seat and hope to make eye contact with other cars passing by. They can’t see 
> my face, and they all pass on by. If I was allowed to stand outside the car 
> they could see me and the level of education that occurs along the drive 
> would increase by more than an order of magnitude.
> 
> In my opinion.
> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!! - out of car thread...

[Kimberly Sucy]

The whole "out of the car" issue is why I wish there were photo/viewng blinds 
in the area across the road, where people could pull off the main drive into 
the old trail parking lot and share scopes, provide assistance, and take photos 
without obstructing the view of passing cars or disturbing wildlife unduly.
As someone who has led field trips with a caravan of cars and who has attempted 
to point out bird locations to new birders using bad bins while talking over 
FRS radios, this would be a HUGE improvement!   Eaton Marsh in particular is a 
wonderful shorebird spot, but horrible for new birders without great optics or 
fully developed spotting skills.  

And I saw baby Rails this year too - outside my car, in the designated viewing 
spot at Benning Marsh.  

-kimberly

On Oct 18, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Marie P. Read wrote:

> As one those darned bird photographers, and at risk of being labelled a 
> killjoy, I feel must make a comment here. 
> 
> Kevin wrote:
>  stop and ask me what I’m looking at. If I could, I’d get out of my car (on 
> the passenger side) and flag people down to look at baby Virginia Rails or a 
> Least Bittern.>
> 
> My heart sinks at this, because I see those baby Virginia Rails and 
> definitely that shy Least Bittern immediately fleeing at the sight of a lot 
> of people suddenly and excitedly exiting their cars. Unless the birds were at 
> a distance and the flagger were using a scope. 
> Sigh!
> 
> Marie
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!! - out of car thread...

[Marie P. Read]

As one those darned bird photographers, and at risk of being labelled a 
killjoy, I feel must make a comment here. 

Kevin wrote:


My heart sinks at this, because I see those baby Virginia Rails and definitely 
that shy Least Bittern immediately fleeing at the sight of a lot of people 
suddenly and excitedly exiting their cars. Unless the birds were at a distance 
and the flagger were using a scope. 
Sigh!

Marie








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[k...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 4:04 PM
To: Peter; Dave Nutter; Van Beusichem, Andrea
Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!!

Snip: “The refuge grants this privilege - this break from the norm -  because 
it considers it an educational opportunity/event for the visiting public - one 
in which they can learn more about the refuge and the life it encourages. “

Every birder I know is more than happy to tell anyone who asks what they’re 
looking at and what’s cool about it. If everyone was allowed to stand outside 
their car, looking through their scopes, the dialog, conversation, and 
education would be constant, not just in special events.

Keeping the public in their vehicles decreases information flow and potentially 
decreases the overall enjoyment and education of the public passing through. As 
a compulsive educator, I find this stay-in-your-car! policy to be frustrating 
and counter-productive. I constantly find cool birds along the wildlife drive 
and hope someone will stop and ask me what I’m looking at. If I could, I’d get 
out of my car (on the passenger side) and flag people down to look at baby 
Virginia Rails or a Least Bittern.

But, I can’t do that, because I follow rules. So, I turn around in my car seat 
and hope to make eye contact with other cars passing by. They can’t see my 
face, and they all pass on by. If I was allowed to stand outside the car they 
could see me and the level of education that occurs along the drive would 
increase by more than an order of magnitude.

In my opinion.

Kevin

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!!

[Gary Kohlenberg]

Well said Kevin !

On Oct 18, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Kevin J. McGowan 
mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

Snip: "The refuge grants this privilege - this break from the norm -  because 
it considers it an educational opportunity/event for the visiting public - one 
in which they can learn more about the refuge and the life it encourages. "

Every birder I know is more than happy to tell anyone who asks what they're 
looking at and what's cool about it. If everyone was allowed to stand outside 
their car, looking through their scopes, the dialog, conversation, and 
education would be constant, not just in special events.

Keeping the public in their vehicles decreases information flow and potentially 
decreases the overall enjoyment and education of the public passing through. As 
a compulsive educator, I find this stay-in-your-car! policy to be frustrating 
and counter-productive. I constantly find cool birds along the wildlife drive 
and hope someone will stop and ask me what I'm looking at. If I could, I'd get 
out of my car (on the passenger side) and flag people down to look at baby 
Virginia Rails or a Least Bittern.

But, I can't do that, because I follow rules. So, I turn around in my car seat 
and hope to make eye contact with other cars passing by. They can't see my 
face, and they all pass on by. If I was allowed to stand outside the car they 
could see me and the level of education that occurs along the drive would 
increase by more than an order of magnitude.

In my opinion.

Kevin

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!!

[Kevin J. McGowan]

Snip: "The refuge grants this privilege - this break from the norm -  because 
it considers it an educational opportunity/event for the visiting public - one 
in which they can learn more about the refuge and the life it encourages. "

Every birder I know is more than happy to tell anyone who asks what they're 
looking at and what's cool about it. If everyone was allowed to stand outside 
their car, looking through their scopes, the dialog, conversation, and 
education would be constant, not just in special events.

Keeping the public in their vehicles decreases information flow and potentially 
decreases the overall enjoyment and education of the public passing through. As 
a compulsive educator, I find this stay-in-your-car! policy to be frustrating 
and counter-productive. I constantly find cool birds along the wildlife drive 
and hope someone will stop and ask me what I'm looking at. If I could, I'd get 
out of my car (on the passenger side) and flag people down to look at baby 
Virginia Rails or a Least Bittern.

But, I can't do that, because I follow rules. So, I turn around in my car seat 
and hope to make eye contact with other cars passing by. They can't see my 
face, and they all pass on by. If I was allowed to stand outside the car they 
could see me and the level of education that occurs along the drive would 
increase by more than an order of magnitude.

In my opinion.

Kevin


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!!

[Glenn Wilson]

Some days half of the people get out of their cars regardless of signs. 

Glenn Wilson
Endicott, NY
www.WilsonsWarbler.com

On Oct 18, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Peter  wrote:

Greetings folks.
Just to shed light on Dave's note about being allowed to get out of one's car 
to get a "better view".
One of the ways a person can volunteer at the Refuge is by being a "Roving 
Naturalist". 
The Naturalist is given a refuge vehicle and spotting scope and is allowed to 
visit various locations on the refuge (only those locations that members of the 
public are normally allowed to go on) (unless permission is given as when Dave 
and others do the shorebird walks in the late summer and fall).
Usually the volunteer visits various locations around the refuge and if s/he 
sees something of note (a perched eagle or falcon; a good collection of various 
species of shorebirds; a good collection of various species of waterfowl) s/he 
is allowed to get out of the vehicle and set up the scope and invite members of 
the public to "have a view". Often the volunteer is simply set up on the deck 
at the Visitor's Center where many visitors tend to congregate. Very often 
these folks are people who are NOT expert birders and need a hand with 
identification or just have general questions about the refuge.
The refuge grants this privilege - this break from the norm -  because it 
considers it an educational opportunity/event for the visiting public - one in 
which they can learn more about the refuge and the life it encourages.  
As previously indicated, the position is of a volunteer nature and usually 
occurs on times of peak usage - Friday thru Sundays during Fall and Spring 
migration. 
All this being said, if one is interested in helping out in this fashion, it is 
necessary to contact Andrea at the Refuge for further information.  
I hope this helps clarify a bit.
Pete Saracino
PS: I see that Andrea has been c.c.'d on this email so she can certainly add to 
(or correct) anything I have said.

> On 10/17/2015 10:30 PM, Dave Nutter wrote:
> Although I did not see Sandy, and have not yet seen her full report, I agree, 
> it was a fine day at Montezuma NWR. I went there today with Ann Mitchell and 
> met up with Matt Medler hosting a small international group of birders. Later 
> we also met Gary Kohlenberg, David Fitch, Doug Green, and video-streamer 
> Ferris Akel at East Road.
> 
> Ann & I went north on the east side of Cayuga Lake pausing briefly at Myers 
> Point and Long Point State Park for scans of the shore and lake, but the 
> waves were so high and the heat shimmer so dense that I saw no birds out on 
> the lake, and only the usual gulls, geese, and cormorants on & near shore 
> plus 1 Greater Yellowlegs hunched in Salmon Creek. Admittedly, I didn't put 
> much time & effort into searching for scoters, Brant, or jaegers. Although I 
> was dressed for the weather, I was not psychologically prepared to stand for 
> long in a strong, damp, 30-something degree wind. If Ann had at least gotten 
> out of the car it might have seemed less of a dumb thing to do.
> 
> At the Montezuma NWR Visitor Center, however, we both got out and enjoyed 
> views of a flock of 13 flighty Dunlin, a flock of 23 flighty dowitchers, most 
> if not all appearing to be Long-billed, although at this late date I did not 
> scan them carefully before they moved to a harder-to-see part of the 
> pond, at least one Pectoral Sandpiper foraging among clumps of mud, at least 
> one each of Greater and Lesser Yellowlegs, and a good variety of Anas genus 
> ducks - Gadwall, Mallard, Northern Shoveler, Northern Pintail, and 
> Green-winged Teal. The males of Mallard & Gadwall were in breeding plumage 
> already, but other dabbler males were not all so brightly colored yet. There 
> were also Canada Geese overhead and brief views of Great Blue Heron, Northern 
> Harrier, and Bald Eagle. 
> 
> The Main Pool has benefitted from the drawdown earlier this year 
> allowing a lush growth of smartweed, whose seeds will feed many waterfowl, 
> but now that the pool is refilled the weeds can hide many ducks. And there 
> are many ducks. Thousands of ducks briefly take flight when a Bald Eagle 
> flies over. In addition to the above-mentioned species, in various openings 
> we saw lots of American Wigeon (Eurasian Wigeon has been reported, but we 
> missed it) and Ring-necked Ducks, a few Wood Ducks, Blue-winged Teal, Lesser 
> Scaup, and Ruddy Ducks, and at least one Redhead. There were also American 
> Coots and a few Pied-billed Grebes.
> 
> We heard reports that someone saw and photographed what they and people at 
> the refuge who saw the photos believe was an unprecedentedly rare 
> White-cheeked Pintail at the Main Pool this morning. Please, anyone who 
> thinks they may have seen this bird, publicize the photos and description.
> 
> We also learned of an interesting new policy at Montezuma NWR from volunteer 
> Pete Saracino. On weekends when a voluntee

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma is great today!!!

[Peter]

Greetings folks.
Just to shed light on Dave's note about being allowed to get out of 
one's car to get a "better view".
One of the ways a person can volunteer at the Refuge is by being a 
"Roving Naturalist".
The Naturalist is given a refuge vehicle and spotting scope and is 
allowed to visit various locations on the refuge (only those locations 
that members of the public are normally allowed to go on) (unless 
permission is given as when Dave and others do the shorebird walks in 
the late summer and fall).
Usually the volunteer visits various locations around the refuge and if 
s/he sees something of note (a perched eagle or falcon; a good 
collection of various species of shorebirds; a good collection of 
various species of waterfowl) s/he is allowed to get out of the vehicle 
and set up the scope and invite members of the public to "have a view". 
Often the volunteer is simply set up on the deck at the Visitor's Center 
where many visitors tend to congregate. Very often these folks are 
people who are NOT expert birders and need a hand with identification or 
just have general questions about the refuge.
The refuge grants this privilege - this break from the norm - because it 
considers it an educational opportunity/event for the visiting public - 
one in which they can learn more about the refuge and the life it 
encourages.
As previously indicated, the position is of a /*volunteer*/ nature and 
usually occurs on times of peak usage - Friday thru Sundays during Fall 
and Spring migration.
All this being said, if one is interested in helping out in this 
fashion, it is necessary to contact Andrea at the Refuge for further 
information.
I hope this helps clarify a bit.
Pete Saracino
PS: I see that Andrea has been c.c.'d on this email so she can certainly 
add to (or correct) anything I have said.

On 10/17/2015 10:30 PM, Dave Nutter wrote:
> Although I did not see Sandy, and have not yet seen her full report, I 
> agree, it was a fine day at Montezuma NWR. I went there today with Ann 
> Mitchell and met up with Matt Medler hosting a small international 
> group of birders. Later we also met Gary Kohlenberg, David Fitch, Doug 
> Green, and video-streamer Ferris Akel at East Road.
>
> Ann & I went north on the east side of Cayuga Lake pausing briefly at 
> Myers Point and Long Point State Park for scans of the shore and lake, 
> but the waves were so high and the heat shimmer so dense that I saw no 
> birds out on the lake, and only the usual gulls, geese, and cormorants 
> on & near shore plus 1 Greater Yellowlegs hunched in Salmon Creek. 
> Admittedly, I didn't put much time & effort into searching for 
> scoters, Brant, or jaegers. Although I was dressed for the weather, I 
> was not psychologically prepared to stand for long in a strong, damp, 
> 30-something degree wind. If Ann had at least gotten out of the car it 
> might have seemed less of a dumb thing to do.
>
> At the Montezuma NWR Visitor Center, however, we both got out and 
> enjoyed views of a flock of 13 flighty Dunlin, a flock of 23 flighty 
> dowitchers, most if not all appearing to be Long-billed, although at 
> this late date I did not scan them carefully before they moved to a 
> harder-to-see part of the pond, at least one Pectoral Sandpiper 
> foraging among clumps of mud, at least one each of Greater and Lesser 
> Yellowlegs, and a good variety of Anas genus ducks - Gadwall, Mallard, 
> Northern Shoveler, Northern Pintail, and Green-winged Teal. The males 
> of Mallard & Gadwall were in breeding plumage already, but other 
> dabbler males were not all so brightly colored yet. There were also 
> Canada Geese overhead and brief views of Great Blue Heron, Northern 
> Harrier, and Bald Eagle.
>
> The Main Pool has benefitted from the drawdown earlier this year 
> allowing a lush growth of smartweed, whose seeds will feed many 
> waterfowl, but now that the pool is refilled the weeds can hide many 
> ducks. And there are many ducks. Thousands of ducks briefly take 
> flight when a Bald Eagle flies over. In addition to the 
> above-mentioned species, in various openings we saw lots of American 
> Wigeon (Eurasian Wigeon has been reported, but we missed it) and 
> Ring-necked Ducks, a few Wood Ducks, Blue-winged Teal, Lesser Scaup, 
> and Ruddy Ducks, and at least one Redhead. There were also American 
> Coots and a few Pied-billed Grebes.
>
> We heard reports that someone saw and photographed what they and 
> people at the refuge who saw the photos believe was an unprecedentedly 
> rare White-cheeked Pintail at the Main Pool this morning. Please, 
> anyone who thinks they may have seen this bird, publicize the photos 
> and description.
>
> We also learned of an interesting new policy at Montezuma NWR from 
> volunteer Pete Saracino. On weekends when a volunteer is present to 
> show birds to the public, people may get out of their cars to join 
> said volunteer. I jumped at the chance. This is great for people on 
> weekends who want he

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma yesterday (Saturday)

[Peter]

Thanks Sandy.
Just to "correct", I believe the majority of dowitchers at the refuge 
yesterday were of the long-billed variety.
Pete Saracino

On 10/18/2015 11:05 AM, Sandy Wold wrote:
> The following was seen 10AM-11AM yesterday around the Visitor Center: 
>  I estimate two or three dozen Short-billed Dowitcher with two 
> Long-billed Dowitchers (which were a few inches taller) and one dunlin 
> in the mix.  (apologies if I wrote greater and lesser on my phone! 
>  was very excited and wanted to share!)  Peter Saracino was there with 
> his scope helping out visitors, and he confirmed.  We could hear 
> Killdeer, saw two Northern Harriers, and two Greater Yellowlegs as well.
>
> Wildlife Drive (11AM-12:30PM):  so many ducks!!!  Up close to the road 
> for excellent views seen of two Northern Shovelers and dozens of 
> Green-winged Teal, ringed-necks, pintails (with awesome blue-color in 
> the bill), American wigeons,  and about six coots.  Farther out I 
> could see what looked like many hundreds of scaup with many many 
> Ringed-necks in their mix.  I identified the farther ones out by their 
> white markings (no scope!).  The sun cooperated perfectly to make this 
> easy! Lastly, I saw a few solitary Pied-billed Grebes here and 
> there...and one lone Tree Swallow (based on tail and teal color) 
> hunting over the marsh!
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma and East Shore

[Ann Mitchell]

Make that Montezuma and East Road. Sorry!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 23, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Ann Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> I went up north to check on shorebird habitat.  More water was added at Knox 
> Marcellus since the weekend which is good news. 
> 
> At the main pool on the Wildlife Drive, the water is mostly gone. The 
> shorebirds are quite distant. LaRue's. Eaton Marsh, and Benning still have 
> water and no mud. The newly created pools at the back of the Wildlife Drive 
> (the area south of Rte 90) have lots of mud and water with some shorebirds 
> including both Yellowlegs, Least and Spotted Sandpipers, Killdeer, and a 
> couple Semi-palmated Plovers. Fifteen Great Egrets were there, also. 
> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR shorebird walk 2 August

[Dave Nutter]

Sorry I omitted the date from the text of the message, although it's in the 
subject line. The trip is on Sunday 2 August. There's no need to register, and 
you can meet at 8:20 at the East Road overlook for the official birding start 
if that's more convenient for you than 8am at the Visitor Center.

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On Jul 20, 2015, at 04:46 PM, Peter  wrote:

> Thanks Dave.
> What's the date of the trip?
> Pete Saracino
>
> On 7/20/2015 4:18 PM, Dave Nutter wrote:
>> As in the past couple years, Montezuma NWR's dikes around Knox-Marsellus 
>> Marsh, which are ordinarily closed to the public, will be open to birders on 
>> foot for several field trips in the summer to look for shorebirds on the mud 
>> flats where the water has been drawn down.
>>
>> I am leading the first such trip of which I am aware. Meet at the Montezuma 
>> NWR Visitor Center off NYS-5/US-20 between NYS-89 and NYS-90. I plan to 
>> leave there at *8am*. Because the NYS-89 bridge over the Eire Canal and 
>> Clyde river is closed, I suggest driving east on NYS-5/US-20, north (and 
>> north again) on NYS-90, west on NYS-31, west on NYS-89, and south on East 
>> Road to the overlook. Because Towpath Road is in such terrible shape with 
>> huge ponds gouged out by inconsiderate drivers of 4-wheelers and pick-up 
>> trucks, I plan to walk down starting at *8:20am* from the overlook and along 
>> the north side of K-M marsh to the dike between K-M and Puddler where 
>> viewing in the morning light will be best for the mud flats on K-M. Although 
>> you may leave whenever you like, I would like the group to start out 
>> together so we can share our observations and learn from one another. Bring 
>> field guides, binoculars, telescopes if you have them (and please be willing 
>> to share views with those who don't). Dress for the weather (sun, wind, &/or 
>> rain), for the vegetation (grass which may be mowed by then but may be wet), 
>> and for the wildlife (bring mosquito repellent!). There is no fee or 
>> membership required.
>>
>> I believe there will be another field trip led by Steve Benedict on 15 
>> August, but I don't know when, exactly where, or any details. When I learn 
>> more about that or other such trips, I will pass the info along.
>> --Dave Nutter
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma shorebirds

[David Nicosia]

I would be happy to lead 1 or 2 as well...
On Jul 19, 2015 11:33 AM, "Dave Nutter"  wrote:

> Excellent question, Dave!
> Steve Benedict has one planned for 15 August, I don't know what time.
> I've just applied to lead one on the morning of Sunday 2 August. I'll put
> out the word as soon as I get final approval, which I hope will be
> tomorrow/Monday morning. Sorry for not having my act together to ask sooner
> and for sooner trips.
> I'm not aware of any other planned trips, but if mine goes well, I'll
> probably ask to do 1 or 2 more. I don't see why other folks couldn't lead
> such trips as well. I'll suggest that if you are interested.
>
> --Dave Nutter
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2015, at 10:33 AM, David Nicosia  wrote:
>
> Since the shorebird migration is just beginning, are there any plans for
> walks in the coming weeks along the dike between K-M Marsh and Puddler's
> this year like
> previous??? Just curious.
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Kenneth V. Rosenberg 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for posting Jay — I’m planning on heading up late today or
>> tomorrow morning. I assume you’re just getting to K-M about now??
>>
>> KEN
>>
>>
>> Kenneth V. Rosenberg
>> Conservation Science Program
>> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
>> Office: 607-254-2412
>> cell: 607-342-4594
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>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Jay McGowan  wrote:
>>
>> Notable species on the wildlife drive this morning included 6 STILT
>> SANDPIPERS, 11 SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHERS, 5 PECTORAL SANDPIPERS, hundreds of
>> Least and Semipalmated, both yellowlegs, Semipalmated Plover, Killdeer,
>> Spotted and Solitary sandpipers, all out on the mudflats that are the main
>> pool, 9 Great Egrets, and a juvenile LEAST BITTERN in the reeds at Eaton
>> Marsh, near where we had an American on Thursday.
>>
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma shorebirds

[David Nicosia]

Since the shorebird migration is just beginning, are there any plans for
walks in the coming weeks along the dike between K-M Marsh and Puddler's
this year like
previous??? Just curious.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Kenneth V. Rosenberg 
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>  Thanks for posting Jay — I’m planning on heading up late today or
> tomorrow morning. I assume you’re just getting to K-M about now??
>
>  KEN
>
>
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>  On Jul 18, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Jay McGowan  wrote:
>
>  Notable species on the wildlife drive this morning included 6 STILT
> SANDPIPERS, 11 SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHERS, 5 PECTORAL SANDPIPERS, hundreds of
> Least and Semipalmated, both yellowlegs, Semipalmated Plover, Killdeer,
> Spotted and Solitary sandpipers, all out on the mudflats that are the main
> pool, 9 Great Egrets, and a juvenile LEAST BITTERN in the reeds at Eaton
> Marsh, near where we had an American on Thursday.
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma shorebirds

[Kenneth V. Rosenberg]

Thanks for posting Jay — I’m planning on heading up late today or tomorrow 
morning. I assume you’re just getting to K-M about now??

KEN


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On Jul 18, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Jay McGowan 
mailto:jw...@cornell.edu>> wrote:


Notable species on the wildlife drive this morning included 6 STILT SANDPIPERS, 
11 SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHERS, 5 PECTORAL SANDPIPERS, hundreds of Least and 
Semipalmated, both yellowlegs, Semipalmated Plover, Killdeer, Spotted and 
Solitary sandpipers, all out on the mudflats that are the main pool, 9 Great 
Egrets, and a juvenile LEAST BITTERN in the reeds at Eaton Marsh, near where we 
had an American on Thursday.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma babies or future babies

[Dave Nutter]

Add a family of VIRGINIA RAILS along the channel on the opposite side of the 
Wildlife Drive from Larue's Lagoon. I saw at least 2 downy black chicks with 2 
adults. I was alerted by persistent 'pip-pip' calls.

The WOOD DUCK family at Larue's had 10 babies on Sunday. On Thursday I counted 
14.

On Van Dyne Spoor Rd Sunday I saw a family of 2 adult and 6 downy young 
AMERICAN COOTS.

A distant pair of adult TRUMPETER SWANS in the SW part of Van Dyne Spoor Rd 
marsh may have been at a nest. There was also a pair of adult TRUMPETER SWANS 
swimming by the Deep Muck platform on Thursday.

I saw at least 2 and possibly as many as 6 adult BLACK-CROWNED NIGHT-HERONS 
south of Van Dyne Spoor Rd on Sunday morning. They were resting on 1 leg, 
preening, standing beside water as if hunting, flying from one part of the 
marsh to another, or seemingly circling randomly over the marsh, but I missed 
any evidence of pairing or breeding.

Of 6 distant GREAT EGRETS south of Van Dyne Spoor Rd, 2 perched close to each 
other on a small dead tree and had plumes on their backs, but I saw no other 
evidence of breeding.

Other observations of interest (to me at least) included:
 a WEASEL at Eaton Marsh, seen well for about a second as it scooted across the 
Wildlife Drive: brown above, white below, black-tipped brown narrow tail about 
half the body length, very short legs, round head about the same diameter as 
the narrow body, fast as hell.
a MONARCH BUTTERFLY (first of year for me) apparently heading north on the 
south breeze Thursday and pausing to feed at blooming Milkweed in front of the 
Deep Muck Platfrom off Savannah-Spring Lake Rd.
two RED-TAILED HAWKS on the empty Osprey platform & perch just south of Dean's 
Cove on NYS-89 as I drove north Sunday but gone when I went south hours later. 
That pole isn't vertical, and I wonder if the tipped platform makes it less 
appealing.
an AMERICAN BITTERN called many times throughout the morning from the middle of 
Van Dyne Spoor Rd marsh, but I did not find any Least Bittern.
from the platform at Mays Point Pool I finally saw one of those noisy MARSH 
WRENS that I've heard so many places at Montezuma.

PS- Oddly, apparently I did not receive the original CayugaBirds-L message from 
Mike Tetlow. I wonder what else I've missed.

--Dave Nutter


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>
> From: bounce-119394628-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
>  on behalf of Michael Tetlow 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 9:16 PM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma babies or future babies
>  
>
> This afternoon a trip through the refuge brought nothing rare but higher 
> water on the main pool diluted the smell of rotting carp and last week’s 
> congregation of 20+ eagles had moved on. Here are some family highlights of 
> the day;
>
> - The winner of the cutest babies contest was a family of 3 tiny baby 
> Spotted Sandpipers with parent on the main pool edge opposite Benning Marsh. 
> They were very difficult to find as their peeping sounded like it was 30 feet 
> away from where they were.
>
> - The family of Wood Ducks continues at Larue lagoon and a small family 
> with only 3 young was at the last pool at the very end of the wildlife drive.
>
>  - 4 teenage Hooded Mergansers were on a log in the same pond.
>
>  - Common Gallinules had 3 brand new babies at the south end of Eaton 
> Marsh and a dense clump at the north end held a Gallinule on the nest.
>
>  - Pied-billed Grebes had a teenager at Eaton Marsh and one on a nest 
> near the end of Van Dyne Spoor Road.
>
>  - Trumpeter Swans with young were on Tschasche pool with 1 Common Tern 
> feeding around them.
>
>  - We had no luck with the Red-headed Woodpeckers at May’s Point and 
> although, hopefully wrong, Starlings were all around the previously contested 
> nest hole.
>
>  - Sandhill Cranes with their colt were still reported at Knox-Marcellus 
> marsh but not seen by us.
>
>  - A Horned Lark took a  mouthful of insects into the grass along East 
> Road and fed a tailless barely feathered fledgling.
>
>  - 2 Black-crowned Night Herons were seen at Van Dyne Spoor Road with one 
> carrying a long stick out to about the middle of the marsh.
>
>  -Black Terns were represented at every cattail marsh with one carrying 
> food at both the main pool and Van Dyne Spoor Road.
>
> Mike and Joann Tetlow  
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma babies or future babies

[Meena Madhav Haribal]

Nice observations Mike and Joanne! I was thinking of swinging in in the 
afternoon on the way back form Sterling Nature Center.


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From: bounce-119394628-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Michael Tetlow 

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 9:16 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma babies or future babies


This afternoon a trip through the refuge brought nothing rare but higher water 
on the main pool diluted the smell of rotting carp and last week's congregation 
of 20+ eagles had moved on. Here are some family highlights of the day;

- The winner of the cutest babies contest was a family of 3 tiny baby 
Spotted Sandpipers with parent on the main pool edge opposite Benning Marsh. 
They were very difficult to find as their peeping sounded like it was 30 feet 
away from where they were.

- The family of Wood Ducks continues at Larue lagoon and a small family 
with only 3 young was at the last pool at the very end of the wildlife drive.

 - 4 teenage Hooded Mergansers were on a log in the same pond.

 - Common Gallinules had 3 brand new babies at the south end of Eaton Marsh 
and a dense clump at the north end held a Gallinule on the nest.

 - Pied-billed Grebes had a teenager at Eaton Marsh and one on a nest near 
the end of Van Dyne Spoor Road.

 - Trumpeter Swans with young were on Tschasche pool with 1 Common Tern 
feeding around them.

 - We had no luck with the Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point and 
although, hopefully wrong, Starlings were all around the previously contested 
nest hole.

 - Sandhill Cranes with their colt were still reported at Knox-Marcellus 
marsh but not seen by us.

 - A Horned Lark took a  mouthful of insects into the grass along East Road 
and fed a tailless barely feathered fledgling.

 - 2 Black-crowned Night Herons were seen at Van Dyne Spoor Road with one 
carrying a long stick out to about the middle of the marsh.

 -Black Terns were represented at every cattail marsh with one carrying 
food at both the main pool and Van Dyne Spoor Road.

Mike and Joann Tetlow

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Re:[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma shorebirds

[Jay McGowan]

Sorry, that should have been a couple HUNDRED shorebirds. Sounds like
numbers are down from last weekend, and the Main Pool has become too dry to
host many shorebirds.

Also, the Burdick Hill, Lansing Grasshopper Sparrow continues to sing from
the fields south of the road as of this morning, and the Cornell Campus
Clay-colored Sparrow was still around as of last night.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Jay McGowan  wrote:

> Gregg Dashnau reports a couple of thousand shorebirds continuing in
> Knox-Marsellus Marsh this afternoon, including a pair of Wilson's
> Phalaropes and 11 Ruddy Turnstones, as well as many Dunlin and other
> expected species.
>
> If anyone happens to find any shorebirds closer to Ithaca, please be sure
> to post. I have been striking out at Myers Point lately, although I did
> have two Common Terns fly by again yesterday morning. Over here in
> Northeast Ithaca, I have heard no reports of either the Red-headed
> Woodpecker nor the Worm-eating Warbler last evening or so far today.
>
>
> --
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Thursday + Eurasian Widgeon

[John Confer]

We also saw an Eurasian Wigeon in Knox Marcellus. There were many Green-winged 
Teal feeding on the mud flats, and for a second there my heart got excited with 
the possibility of large flock of large sandpipers, but, sad to say, no such 
luck.

John


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Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 5:49 PM
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Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Thursday

John Confer and I spent the morning helping out with the Refuge’s marsh bird 
survey. Our route covered the south end of the Main Pool and on west into Black 
Lake. We drove north on the dike directly across from the Visitor’s Center, 
parked opposite the Center and saw immediately that we were in for a slog. We 
donned chest waders, took the canoe off the top of the car, and set out to pull 
it a couple hundred yards west through the fallen cattails. Along the way we 
heard the first of two MARSH WRENs for the day and flushed a pair of SANDHILL 
CRANES that may well be setting up a nest. That, of course, would be great for 
all the visitors because their calls will be heard easily from the viewing deck.

It was another slog through fallen cattails to our next point where, in 
addition to responses from several VIRGINIA RAILS we heard our only SORA of the 
day. Shortly after that we came out onto open water (4 - 6” deep!) and were 
able to paddle to our remaining three points. All in all we encountered 6 
Virginia Rails and two AMERICAN BITTERNs. Other than that, a couple of American 
Coots, numerous Swamp Sparrows, and eagles and ospreys flying over. The south 
end of the Main Pool was surprisingly quiet. No Least Bitterns yet.

The Refuge is draining the Main Pool for the season at a couple of inches per 
day so it is questionable whether or not we will be able to conduct the next 
two required surveys (two weeks apart). Nevertheless, it was great to be out 
there: warm temps, no wind, and clear blue skies.

We checked Knox-Marsellus Marsh on the way home. There were at least 20 Bald 
Eagles but only one shorebird (Greater Yellowlegs) on all of the exposed mud, 
and hundreds of ducks, mostly teal and shovelers.

Finally down Rt 90 near the Aurora Shoe Company, an EASTERN KINGBIRD flew up 
from the ditch to a overhead wire.

Bob McGuire
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re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

[Mona Bearor]

A big thanks to all who responded with information on Montezuma.  Looks like
I have a bit of a wait for the waterfowl show, but I am looking forward to
it!
Thanks again,

Mona Bearor
South Glens Falls, NY




-Original Message-
From: Mona Bearor
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:14 AM
To: 'Upstate NY Birding'
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma


Is anything happening at Montezuma yet?  I'd like to make a quick run over
there when there is a diversity of waterfowl.

Mona Bearor
South Glens Falls, NY






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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Highlights/rarity timing.

[Bill Mcaneny]

A footnote to the Tetlow's report: one of the Trumpeter swans in a group of
5 at K-M had a blue patch on its left wing.  From where Shirley and I were,
we could not read a number.  Also, we counted Sandhill cranes three times
and got a different result each time. Our high count was 52, very close to
Tetlow's 48.  We heard them calling before we found them.

Bill McAneny, TBurg

 

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From: bounce-118376782-7495...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-118376782-7495...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Michael
Tetlow 
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 9:41 PM
To: geneseebird...@geneseo.edu; cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Highlights/rarity timing.

 

 Our afternoon trip through Montezuma started with the Eared grebe along
the wildlife drive in the first opening after the channel unlike earlier in
the day reported further up the drive. It would be very easy to miss as for
every 2 seconds it was up it spent 8 seconds underwater.  

 Both the adult and immature ibis were out preening around 2pm but
quickly split up; one disappearing into the reeds to the north and the other
into the back edge cattails to the south. The Am. Avocet was very
cooperative.

 The biggest change from last week was the large number of Lesser Scaup(
with a few Greater's and Redhead mixed in) on the north end of the main
pool.

 At Knox-Marcellus 48 Sandhill cranes were very active. When we arrived
around 3 pm there were 7 Ross's Geese among the 500 or so Snow Geese.
Several groups flew out and we could not find a Ross's among the100 or so
remaining. There were a few Trumpeter swans mixed in with 100 plus Tundras
there and a larger group(maybe 15) of Trumpeter's on Armitage Road, one of
which had a green wing tag. Way back at Puddler's  there were at least 2 of
both Greater and Lesser yellowlegs. No Great Egrets.  Mike and Joann Tetlow 

 

 p.s.On a sad note here is a post from Oneida Birds as I know some have
regularly  checked on this bird.

 

Subject: Route 31 Snowy Owl
Date: Sun Nov 9 2014 10:22 am
From: oneidabirds-noreply AT yahoogroups.com 

I talked to Jean and Leonard Soprano of Kindred Kingdoms Wildlife

Rehabilitation Center this morning. They informed me that the Snowy Owl

that has been hanging around the shopping plaza on Route 31 in Clay is now

at their facility. It was brought to them this morning. The owl was

struck by a car and is underweight.

Jim Tarolli

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma area 30-31August2014

[Meena Madhav Haribal]

Thanks Jay and Dave for great reports!  I hope to head down that way in search 
of Northern Spreadwing and some clubtails, so might find some of the great 
birds too!

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From: bounce-117809157-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Jay McGowan 

Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 9:16 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L; oneidabi...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma area 30-31August2014

To follow up on Dave's thorough but modest summary of our dike walk yesterday, 
I thought I would share a few of my and Livia's sightings from the weekend. We 
went up to Montezuma on Saturday afternoon, spent the evening there, camped at 
Cayuga Lake State Park, and joined the group for the walk out from Towpath Road 
on Sunday morning. Despite passing a rainy night in the tent, it was a very 
enjoyable outing. Highlights:

--The pier at Frontenac Harbor continues to host plenty of gulls and 
occasionally Caspian Terns, but no more Common Terns or Bonaparte's Gull that I 
have detected since July 5th and 27th, respectively.
--The Visitor Center Pool is very dry with plowed dirt, not too great for most 
shorebirds but potentially excellent for a Buff-breasted to drop in on. Nine 
SEMIPALMATED PLOVERS and two Killdeer were all that we could find Saturday 
afternoon.
--The Wildlife Drive was pretty slow at 3PM on Saturday. A good group of 
yellowlegs with over 30 Caspian Terns were at Shorebird Flats, so good 
potential for something cool there. The Snow Goose continues, today preening on 
dirt piles near the end of the drive.
--Two adult and one juvenile RED-HEADED WOODPECKER were in the usual area in 
the dead snags on the left on Mays Point Road around 3:30 on Saturday. All 
three then flew off across the road and across the lock into the forest along 
the canal.
--Knox-Marsellus from East Road at 3:45 Saturday produced the continuing pair 
of HUDSONIAN GODWITS, as well as poor views of lots of other shorebirds. More 
on K-M shorebirds below. Of note was a group of 12 AMERICAN GOLDEN-PLOVERS out 
on the flats, not seen by others that morning nor by us later in the evening 
(but perhaps the same birds WERE present on Sunday.)
--As Sara Jane posted, the large, long field at the SE corner of Armitage and 
Rt. 89 is plowed and appealing. We checked it three times over the course of 
the weekend. No Buff-breasted, but a very likely spot. We had SANDHILL CRANES 
twice, first six on Saturday then seven on Sunday, as well as 40+ Killdeer and 
scattered Horned Larks.
--The Montezuma Audubon Center on Saturday evening was active, but lighting was 
not ideal. Stilt Sandpiper and many Short-billed Dowitchers, as well as lots of 
peeps.
--East Road around 6:30 produced mostly the same shorebirds. A fresh juvenile 
BONAPARTE'S GULL with the gull flock and a flyover WILSON'S SNIPE were the most 
notable additions.
--As Dave Wheeler has posted, the GREAT EGRET flyby at Tschache in the evening 
is interesting, if not exactly spectacular. We counted 116 from 7:00-8:00PM on 
Saturday, and probably missed a few that might have come by earlier. A lot 
landed in the back left part of Tschache and then eventually took off and 
continued SW. It wasn't clear what their final destination might be. The 
swallow and blackbird clouds in the distance were dramatic as well.

--Sunday morning was wet and drear, and our plans of checking the Audubon 
Center and doing some landbirding early were dashed. Instead we headed straight 
for Towpath but were distracted on the way by a gull fallout of sorts at the 
Chiropractic College in Seneca Falls off Rt. 89, where 650+ HERRING GULLS and 
several hundred Ring-billed Gulls were joined by 30 Great Black-backed Gulls 
and a single 2nd-cycle type LESSER BLACK-BACKED GULL in the lawns around the 
college. I was hoping for a Buff-breasted or other grasspipers on the golf 
course or lawns, but the closest we came was a flock of about 14 LESSER 
YELLOWLEGS that flew over several times, perhaps looking for a wetter place to 
land.

--As Dave has already posted, the walk out the dike from Towpath Road to see 
the shorebirds at Knox-Marsellus was damp but fruitful. We got good looks at 
the two HUDSONIAN GODWITS, mostly foraging in deep water but occasionally 
walking up onto the shore. As expected for this time of year, they are molting 
adults. Some of us got to see them fly several times. Photo here: 
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/P0NYvvKd_ErSLZcAkpXhTdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
--Up to seven adult BLACK-BELLIED PLOVERS, the majority still with fairly 
bright alternate plumage were always visible on the flats, and eventually were 
joined by a group of eight adult AMERICAN GOLDEN-PLOVERS in various stages of 
transitional plumage, all with at lea

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

[Jennifer Marshall]

I don't know if this is against list serve protocol - but I rent my home which 
is on the Northern end of Cayuga Lake near Montezuma.  It is a fabulous spot 
for birding and fall migration.  If interested check out:
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1274677

Weekend rentals in fall or full weeks.  
Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Carol Keeler  wrote:
> 
> I agree with Diana.  My experiences have been much the same as hers.  When 
> people get out of their cars the birds either fly away or move out farther 
> which makes it more difficult for most photographers and those without 
> scopes. The Refuge needs to enforce and clarify their rules.  Why did the 
> Refuge, long ago, change it to no one out of their cars?  If they allow 
> walking there again, it will take a long time for the birds to become used to 
> people out of their cars.  I've always believed that using the car as a blind 
> allows one to see more.  But I guess if I could get out of the car I could 
> sit down by the water in a bag blind to photograph and bird.  Again, the 
> refuge would need to post rules on how far off the road one could go.  Just 
> more complications.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2014, at 11:11 PM, Diana  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> I thought I might way in on this discussion about whether birds are 
>> disturbed by people out of their cars. As a photographer, I can say it most 
>> certainly does. Anytime that people are out of their vehicles, the birds are 
>> gone or moved a considerable distance away when I have been in the wake of 
>> this behavior.  I find it is both photographer and birders with scopes that 
>> are guilty of this. Personally, things viewed with a scope are not of 
>> interest to me, so yes, it does make a difference if people out of cars push 
>> the birds further away.  I find that no one seems to be enforcing the rule 
>> as it stands because people have told me that the refuge vehicles drove by 
>> them and did not say anything. It has been very frustrating to photograph 
>> anything especially this year with this turn of events, so I too would like 
>> clarification of what is allowed.  If people did stay in their car, it would 
>> allow for others to see more in my opinion. I know in other areas, birds are 
>> less shy, but it does not seem to be the case here. I realize that most 
>> people are unaware that they change things by not staying in their car, but 
>> I think I get my best opportunities and views if I practice patience and 
>> keeping a low profile using my vehicle as a blind.
>> 
>> 
>> Diana Whiting
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

[Carol Keeler]

I agree with Diana.  My experiences have been much the same as hers.  When 
people get out of their cars the birds either fly away or move out farther 
which makes it more difficult for most photographers and those without scopes. 
The Refuge needs to enforce and clarify their rules.  Why did the Refuge, long 
ago, change it to no one out of their cars?  If they allow walking there again, 
it will take a long time for the birds to become used to people out of their 
cars.  I've always believed that using the car as a blind allows one to see 
more.  But I guess if I could get out of the car I could sit down by the water 
in a bag blind to photograph and bird.  Again, the refuge would need to post 
rules on how far off the road one could go.  Just more complications.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 2, 2014, at 11:11 PM, Diana  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> I thought I might way in on this discussion about whether birds are disturbed 
> by people out of their cars. As a photographer, I can say it most certainly 
> does. Anytime that people are out of their vehicles, the birds are gone or 
> moved a considerable distance away when I have been in the wake of this 
> behavior.  I find it is both photographer and birders with scopes that are 
> guilty of this. Personally, things viewed with a scope are not of interest to 
> me, so yes, it does make a difference if people out of cars push the birds 
> further away.  I find that no one seems to be enforcing the rule as it stands 
> because people have told me that the refuge vehicles drove by them and did 
> not say anything. It has been very frustrating to photograph anything 
> especially this year with this turn of events, so I too would like 
> clarification of what is allowed.  If people did stay in their car, it would 
> allow for others to see more in my opinion. I know in other areas, birds are 
> less shy, but it does not seem to be the case here. I realize that most 
> people are unaware that they change things by not staying in their car, but I 
> think I get my best opportunities and views if I practice patience and 
> keeping a low profile using my vehicle as a blind.
> 
> 
> Diana Whiting
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR paddling

[Donna Scott]

Last summer Paul Anderson of the Cayuga Bird Club organized a kayak paddle in 
the vicinity of Howland Island and into the Seneca River. A kayak rental 
company rented us the kayaks and provided a bus ride from cars to launch site. 
Then we paddled to where cars were.
I am not aware of any allowed paddles in MNWR waters.
Donna Scott
Lansing
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mo Barger Rooster Hill Farm 
  To: cayugabirds Cornell 
  Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR field trips


  This sounds great!

  Can anyone provide info about paddling around MNWR? Is it even allowed or 
perhaps just at certain times? I remember an organized trip last year. Thanks.
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR field trips

[Mo Barger Rooster Hill Farm]

This sounds great!

Can anyone provide info about paddling around MNWR? Is it even allowed or
perhaps just at certain times? I remember an organized trip last year.
Thanks.


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:

> This is the second year that the management of the Montezuma National
> Wildlife Refuge is allowing a limited number of birding field trips onto
> dikes around Knox-Marsellus and Puddler Marshes, where the refuge otherwise
> prohibits public access. These are the scheduled trips and leaders of which
> I am aware:
>
> Sunday 27 July, 8am, Dave Nutter of Cayuga Bird Club
> Sunday 17 August, 8am, Eaton Birding Society
> Saturday 23 August, 11am, Mike Tetlow of Rochester Birding Association
> Sunday 31 August, 8am, Dave Nutter of Cayuga Bird Club
> Sunday 21 September, 830am, Paul Anderson of Cayuga Bird Club
> Saturday 27 September, 11am, Mike Tetlow of Rochester Birding Association
>
> The trips are hosted by members of various bird clubs, but all the trips
> are open to all birders, whether or not they are members of any bird club,
> and there is no fee. However everyone should pre-register with the Refuge
> staff by calling 315-568-5987. All field trips will meet at the given
> time at the Refuge Visitor Center on NY-5/US-20 then caravan to the site.
> This includes a .8 mile drive on a single lane dirt road with deep puddles,
> so consider car-pooling to reduce wear on the road and the number of muddy
> cars. After that we will be walking on the dikes. Be prepared for dewy
> vegetation and biting insects. Bring binoculars and, if you have one, a
> spotting scope as well. Even though we will be closer to the birds than the
> usual roadside viewpoints allow, the impoundments are huge, and many birds
> will still be distant enough that a scope will make a big difference for
> identification and enjoyment. Another great thing about a scope is that one
> can aim it at a distant bird, then let someone else have a look at that
> same bird, so please be willing to share views and ID skills, especially
> with folks who don't have a scope.
>
> Maintaining inland habitat for migrating shorebirds is a challenge which
> Montezuma NWR has taken on successfully for a number of years. As a result
> this is a great place for birds and a great opportunity for us. The
> southbound migration is already well underway for shorebirds which nested
> in boreal and tundra regions far to our north and west. Already in addition
> to the Killdeer and Spotted Sandpipers which nest here, there have been
> Greater and Lesser Yellowlegs, Solitary, Pectoral, Stilt, Least, and
> Semipalmated Sandpipers, Sanderling, and Short-billed and Long-billed
> Dowitchers. Some of these have been few or transient, and others numerous
> or growing in numbers. We expect several additional species of shorebirds
> to pass through or join the throng for awhile as the season progresses.
> Shorebirds will be our focus, yet we expect and welcome distraction by
> multiple species of gulls, terns, raptors, ducks in challenging eclipse
> plumage, herons, assorted other waterbirds such as cormorants, grebes, and
> rails, plus swallows, sparrows, icterids, warblers, and other songbirds
> along the way. That said, there are no guarantees as to what birds will be
> present and cooperative. You just have to be there to find out.
>

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

[Marie P. Read]

I feel I have to defend my co-photogs by commenting that it's not just 
photographers that get out of their cars on the wildlife drive ;-)))
Also a quick comment that Montezuma is out of the ordinary in requiring 
everyone to stay in their cars along the wildlife drive. Few other wildlife 
refuges I have visited require that.

Just my 2 cents worth from far away in sunny CA, where this photographer gets 
to wander pretty much wherever she darned well wants to  No offense meant 
to anyone...;-)
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From: bounce-116719968-5851...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-116719968-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Ann Mitchell 
[annmitchel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:41 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

Judy Thoroughman and I went north yesterday. There were no birds at Union 
Springs Marina. We arrived there around 11:30.
The Wildlife Drive was the most productive. There were 2 plus Black Terns 
there, too many to count Canada Geese and families and many Coot and Common 
Gallunile families. Also, there was a couple taking photos of geese and 
goslings outside of their car. Photographers from what I have seen, do what 
they want. These folks may be new at it. Anyway, while they were watching 
geese, an American Bittern flew by them on the other side. We had great views. 
We went to Savannah, but nothing new.  Dave's was the best stop!
Goof birding
Ann
BTW the only sandpiper we saw was a Kldeer. The others will be back soon

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Red Knots, plovers

[Jay McGowan]

Very few shorebirds on the ground at Carncross at the moment, but three RED
KNOTS just flew over with three Black-bellied Plovers. Perhaps more
noteworthy still, a GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE was sitting with a small
flock of Canada Geese in the water. They all just took off and flew north.
On May 30, 2014 5:25 PM, "Dave Nutter"  wrote:

> I just got a call (5:10pm) from Dominic Sherony who was at Montezuma
> earlier today. He says that when he arrived at Carncross Road about 11:30am
> there was a flock of 40-50 BLACK-BELLIED PLOVERS in the air along with some
> RED KNOTS - he's not sure how many. They had apparently been put up by an
> eagle, and they circled higher and departed. Joe Wing, who was there before
> they took flight, may have a count. At least 5 RED KNOTS remained at
> Carncross when Dominic left at 12:20pm, along with various other
> shorebirds, some of them distant and challenging.
>
> Dominic was also at Armitage Road today where he saw 2 possible AMERICAN
> GOLDEN-PLOVERS, one basic and one nearly so. If anyone else has seen these
> birds he'd like confirmation or correction on the ID. He was also at
> Armitage on the 27th and saw the single RED KNOT as late as 3pm that I
> found that day.
>
> --Dave Nutter
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma etc.

[Jay McGowan]

Sure enough: Dave Nutter reports a RED KNOT at Armitage Road this morning,
as well as a RED-NECKED PHALAROPE at Carncross.


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Jay McGowan  wrote:

> In addition to the usual birds at Montezuma (which happily include
> Prothonotary Warbler, Red-headed Woodpecker, Cerulean Warbler, Black Tern,
> and many others), Carncross was rife with shorebirds, including an
> estimated 400 DUNLIN, an amazing group of at least 45 BLACK-BELLIED
> PLOVERS, approximately 19 RUDDY TURNSTONES, a breeding plumage SANDERLING,
> dozens of SEMIPALMATED SANDPIPERS and SEMIPALMATED PLOVERS, at least two
> SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHERS, and a WHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPER. The flooded field on
> Armitage still had a few shorebirds, as did the last pond on the Wildlife
> Drive, but the numbers and diversity and both places did not compare to
> Carncross. With reports of Red Knots on Oneida Lake today we had high hopes
> of picking one out of the flock, but no such luck. Also notable at
> Carncross were the lingering pair of NORTHERN PINTAIL, the first RED-NECKED
> GREBE I can recall seeing in a cornfield, and the SANDHILL CRANE pair with
> at least one colt.
>
> This evening on a dusk walk around Monkey Run North, the most notable bird
> was an ACADIAN FLYCATCHER that sang from the low area on the left side of
> the trail about halfway to the where the trail descends to the river from
> the parking area. A little later I picked out two COMMON NIGHTHAWKS to the
> west from the hill at Sapsucker Woods. They were on the same trajectory
> (and equivalently distant, unfortunately) to two nighthawks Livia and I saw
> at Bluegrass Lane last night.
>
> --
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma area shorebirds

[Paul Anderson]

At the Armitage Road flooded field at about 4pm yesterday I saw no 
Yellowlegs or Dowitchers, but I did have two Ruddy Turnstones.

Paul

On 5/25/2014 11:48 PM, Dave Nutter wrote:
> I went north today seeking the Prothonotary Warbler (no luck for me, 
> although others heard it earlier in the distance), and shorebirds, 
> which turned out to be more interesting. In fact it was shorebirds 
> that delayed my arrival at the hardwood swamp on Armitage Road where 
> the Prothonotaries have been. The field on the south side of Armitage 
> is still flooded, and the northeast corner (where one can conveniently 
> pull off with a car and set up a scope) hosted a goodly number and 
> variety of shorebirds. Although they flushed, flew, rearranged, and 
> returned or added several times while I was there, I saw:
>
> 1 KILLDEER
> 5 SEMIPALMATED PLOVER
> 1 GREATER YELLOWLEGS
> 3 LESSER YELLOWLEGS
> 1 SPOTTED SANDPIPER
> 47 DUNLIN
> 25 SEMIPALMATED SANDPIPER - most arrived in a later batch
> 100 LEAST SANDPIPER (estimate)
> 1 WHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPER. Although I was unable to pick it out when 
> they flushed, and didn't refind it afterward, and was a bit frustrated 
> while viewing it, I've become more confident of the ID based on large 
> size, including width end-on, and rufous stripe on back. The spotting 
> on the side was minimal, but the breast & face were streaked with gray 
> a bit more than I would expect on Semipalmated.)
>
> Later Ann Mitchell, Gary Kohlenberg & I found some shorebirds and 
> others at the flooded field (in distant cornstubble on the west side) 
> on Carncross Rd in Savannah:
>
> SEMIPALMATED PLOVER - several
> KILLDEER - at least 1
> 3 SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHER. The bird I studied most (which was plenty 
> orange-red on face, neck, & breast) appeared to be Short-billed based 
> on gold-spotted back, whitish lower belly & undertail, and more white 
> than black top of tail seen during preening. Another individual showed 
> a flat back when feeding.
> 50 DUNLIN
> SEMIPALMATED SANDPIPER - several
> LEAST SANDPIPER - several
> 1 WHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPER, flew into my scope view with 4 Semipalmated 
> Sandpipers, it was similarly grayish tan & white in color but 
> substantially larger and with a slightly downcurved bill, and as it 
> alit I saw the broad white band across the upper tail. Unfortunately 
> it landed behind a dense row of cornstubble, so Gary & Ann did not get 
> to see it.
>
> Other neat birds at Carncross included a breeding plumage RED-NECKED 
> GREBE swimming, diving and sleeping near a female RUDDY DUCK, a male 
> NORTHERN PINTAIL (late), a male (American) GREEN-WINGED TEAL, and 2 
> adult SANDHILL CRANES which observers from a different vantage said 
> had 2 youngsters. An AMERICAN BITTERN gallunked from the north side of 
> the road and then flushed when a car stopped on the road nearby. MARSH 
> WRENS were unusually visible.
>
> At the "Sandhill Crane Unit" (the flooded land south of Van Dyne Spoor 
> Rd) we scoped a distant pair of SANDHILL CRANES with at least 1 
> youngster atop a muskrat mansion.
>
> The RED-HEADED WOODPECKER pair continues to give a fine show in the 
> dead trees on South May's Point Rd. While there I heard a single song 
> which made me think of Yellow-throated Warbler (a full clear "tuwee, 
> tuwee, tuwee, tu tu") but was probably something else, like a 
> Baltimore Oriole. I also heard a BLACKPOLL WARBLER sing nearby.
>
> My last new bird, found as I was about to leave the Tschache Pool 
> tower parking lot, was a single west-bound BLACK TERN.
>
> By the way, there were lots of fine songbirds singing in the woods 
> along Van Dyne Spoor Rd and along Armitage Rd, although most were 
> invisible.
> --Dave Nutter
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Additions

[bob mcguire]

Susan, Stu, and I made a late trip up the lake yesterday. We ran into Mike and 
his wife at Dave's in Savannah and, thanks to their directions, were able to 
quickly find the Eurasian Wigeon at Van Dyne Spoor Rd. and the Black-belied 
Plovers and calling American Bittern at Carncross Rd. Our addition to the 
Carncross sightings were two SEMIPALMATED PLOVERS in the vicinity of the 
Black-bellieds. 

Bob McGuire
On May 11, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Michael and Joann Tetlow wrote:

> In addition to Kim’s posting, last evening Joann and I were able to relocate 
> the Eurasian Wigeon near the east end of Vandyne Spoor Road among Am. Wigeon 
> and Gadwall.  The pair of Red-headed woodpeckers has returned to May’s point 
> in the dead trees east of the overlook. The exact tree pointed out by France 
> who had found the muck land Snowy Owl earlier. Beyond the owl to the SE a wet 
> spot on the muck lands had a group of Caspian Terns with 2 breeding plumage 
> Ruddy Turnstones. Carncross Road had good numbers of both Yellowlegs, at 
> least 6 Dunlin, a few Least Sandpipers and 2 beautiful breeding plumage 
> Black-bellied Plovers. We heard American Bittern and Virginia rail form the 
> marshes to the north of Carncross and were able to see 3 of the Bitterns fly 
> up briefly as we looked south from the Marten’s tract overlook. Mike and 
> Joann Tetlow   
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises

[Dave Nutter]

The photos labeled White-faced Ibis from November I would have called Glossy Ibis because of the whitish line of skin along the top of the faical skin between the eye and bill. Other birders are more expert than I, so I'd like to hear from them.--Dave NutterOn Nov 19, 2013, at 08:21 PM, joe & Diana  wrote:Hi, I have some photos from Oct 21and 22 and  November 3, 2013. I have other views not up on the site, but maybe can be helpful.http://www.dianawhitingphotography.com/Galleries/Birds/Waders-Shorebirds-Herons/13061498_R4dFT2#!i=2918733785&k=ZmM8BLP Diana WhitingOn Nov 19, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Kevin J. McGowan wrote:I’m confused.  The White-faced Ibis I saw at Monteuma NWR on 17 October 2013 looked to be an adult: it had extensive red on the face, a decidedly red eye, brilliantly glossy wing coverts and tail, and had no obvious molt limits or other abnormalities in the plumage.  I thought the Glossy Ibis with it was a hatch-year bird, with much less gloss on the wings, more white spotting on the head and neck, and evidence of variable wear on the back feathers. The bird with its head up in http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/ is a Glossy, isn’t it?  It has distinct white lines on the facial skin and appears to have a brown eye.  It has the same kind of wear that the Glossy Ibis I saw this weekend had.https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rClpwPntu85jLOZZGDDWHNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink. What do I have wrong? I admit up front that I don’t see ibis every year, and I’ve never spent much time trying to age them. Are there more photos? Kevin   Kevin J. McGowanIthaca, NYk...@cornell.edu607-254-2452 From: bounce-110892864-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-110892864-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher WoodSent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:59 PMTo: Jay McGowanCc: CAYUGABIRDS-L; oneidabi...@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises I think there have been at least two different White-faced Ibis at Montezuma this fall. A 1st-year bird that was found on the 17th and was seen daily through the 22nd. Starting the 23rd, I believe only the 1st-year Glossy Ibis was seen until the 27th. On the 27th, "The" White-faced Ibis appeared again -- the only problem is that this individual looks completely different and appears to be a 2nd-year bird. Here is a photo of the first bird (1st-year). Note the relatively uniform appearance:http://www.flickr.com/photos/68672476@N00/10392659105/in/photolist-gQn6tF-gQo4XR-gQnbEw-gQnc5a  The second individual, apparently a second-year bird, looks very different. Note the contrast between the wing coverts and scapulars.http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/  I think Andy Guthrie was the first to bring this to our attention. Thanks,Chris Chris WoodeBird & Neotropical Birds Project LeaderCornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, New Yorkhttp://ebird.orghttp://neotropical.birds.cornell.edu  On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jay McGowan <jw...@cornell.edu> wrote:Thought some may be interested, after a period of absence and then with only the Glossy Ibis present, LaRue and Jackie report that both the Glossy and the White-faced ibis were in the Visitor Center pool this morning. -- Jay McGowanMacaulay LibraryCornell Lab of Ornithologyjw...@cornell.edu --Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives:The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird!-- --Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives:The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives:The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird!--Diana Whitinghttp://www.dianawhitingphotography.com/--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives:The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird!--
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises

[joe & Diana]

Hi,
 I have some photos from Oct 21and 22 and  November 3, 2013. I have other views 
not up on the site, but maybe can be helpful.

http://www.dianawhitingphotography.com/Galleries/Birds/Waders-Shorebirds-Herons/13061498_R4dFT2#!i=2918733785&k=ZmM8BLP

Diana Whiting
On Nov 19, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Kevin J. McGowan wrote:

> I’m confused.  The White-faced Ibis I saw at Monteuma NWR on 17 October 2013 
> looked to be an adult: it had extensive red on the face, a decidedly red eye, 
> brilliantly glossy wing coverts and tail, and had no obvious molt limits or 
> other abnormalities in the plumage.  I thought the Glossy Ibis with it was a 
> hatch-year bird, with much less gloss on the wings, more white spotting on 
> the head and neck, and evidence of variable wear on the back feathers.
>  
> The bird with its head up in 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/ is a Glossy, isn’t it?  
> It has distinct white lines on the facial skin and appears to have a brown 
> eye.  It has the same kind of wear that the Glossy Ibis I saw this weekend 
> had.https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rClpwPntu85jLOZZGDDWHNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink.
>  
> What do I have wrong? I admit up front that I don’t see ibis every year, and 
> I’ve never spent much time trying to age them. Are there more photos?
>  
> Kevin
>  
>  
>  
> Kevin J. McGowan
> Ithaca, NY
> k...@cornell.edu
> 607-254-2452
>  
> From: bounce-110892864-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
> [mailto:bounce-110892864-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher 
> Wood
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:59 PM
> To: Jay McGowan
> Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L; oneidabi...@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises
>  
> I think there have been at least two different White-faced Ibis at Montezuma 
> this fall. A 1st-year bird that was found on the 17th and was seen daily 
> through the 22nd. Starting the 23rd, I believe only the 1st-year Glossy Ibis 
> was seen until the 27th. On the 27th, "The" White-faced Ibis appeared again 
> -- the only problem is that this individual looks completely different and 
> appears to be a 2nd-year bird.
>  
> Here is a photo of the first bird (1st-year). Note the relatively uniform 
> appearance:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/68672476@N00/10392659105/in/photolist-gQn6tF-gQo4XR-gQnbEw-gQnc5a
>  
> The second individual, apparently a second-year bird, looks very different. 
> Note the contrast between the wing coverts and scapulars.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/
>  
> I think Andy Guthrie was the first to bring this to our attention.
>  
> Thanks,
> Chris
>  
> 
> Chris Wood
> 
> eBird & Neotropical Birds Project Leader
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, New York
> http://ebird.org
> http://neotropical.birds.cornell.edu
>  
> 
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jay McGowan  wrote:
> Thought some may be interested, after a period of absence and then with only 
> the Glossy Ibis present, LaRue and Jackie report that both the Glossy and the 
> White-faced ibis were in the Visitor Center pool this morning.
> 
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises

[Kevin J. McGowan]

I'm confused.  The White-faced Ibis I saw at Monteuma NWR on 17 October 2013 
looked to be an adult: it had extensive red on the face, a decidedly red eye, 
brilliantly glossy wing coverts and tail, and had no obvious molt limits or 
other abnormalities in the plumage.  I thought the Glossy Ibis with it was a 
hatch-year bird, with much less gloss on the wings, more white spotting on the 
head and neck, and evidence of variable wear on the back feathers.

The bird with its head up in 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/ is a Glossy, isn't it?  It 
has distinct white lines on the facial skin and appears to have a brown eye.  
It has the same kind of wear that the Glossy Ibis I saw this weekend had. 
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rClpwPntu85jLOZZGDDWHNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink.

What do I have wrong? I admit up front that I don't see ibis every year, and 
I've never spent much time trying to age them. Are there more photos?

Kevin



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Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:59 PM
To: Jay McGowan
Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L; oneidabi...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises

I think there have been at least two different White-faced Ibis at Montezuma 
this fall. A 1st-year bird that was found on the 17th and was seen daily 
through the 22nd. Starting the 23rd, I believe only the 1st-year Glossy Ibis 
was seen until the 27th. On the 27th, "The" White-faced Ibis appeared again -- 
the only problem is that this individual looks completely different and appears 
to be a 2nd-year bird.

Here is a photo of the first bird (1st-year). Note the relatively uniform 
appearance:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68672476@N00/10392659105/in/photolist-gQn6tF-gQo4XR-gQnbEw-gQnc5a

The second individual, apparently a second-year bird, looks very different. 
Note the contrast between the wing coverts and scapulars.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/

I think Andy Guthrie was the first to bring this to our attention.

Thanks,
Chris


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On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jay McGowan 
mailto:jw...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Thought some may be interested, after a period of absence and then with only 
the Glossy Ibis present, LaRue and Jackie report that both the Glossy and the 
White-faced ibis were in the Visitor Center pool this morning.


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises

[Kenneth V. Rosenberg]

I agree that these are two very different birds. It looks like the second bird 
was seen and photographed until Nov 6th --  do we know if the bird seen today 
is the same as that one?

KEN


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On Nov 19, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Christopher Wood 
mailto:pinic...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:

I think there have been at least two different White-faced Ibis at Montezuma 
this fall. A 1st-year bird that was found on the 17th and was seen daily 
through the 22nd. Starting the 23rd, I believe only the 1st-year Glossy Ibis 
was seen until the 27th. On the 27th, "The" White-faced Ibis appeared again -- 
the only problem is that this individual looks completely different and appears 
to be a 2nd-year bird.

Here is a photo of the first bird (1st-year). Note the relatively uniform 
appearance:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68672476@N00/10392659105/in/photolist-gQn6tF-gQo4XR-gQnbEw-gQnc5a

The second individual, apparently a second-year bird, looks very different. 
Note the contrast between the wing coverts and scapulars.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/

I think Andy Guthrie was the first to bring this to our attention.

Thanks,
Chris


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On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jay McGowan 
mailto:jw...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Thought some may be interested, after a period of absence and then with only 
the Glossy Ibis present, LaRue and Jackie report that both the Glossy and the 
White-faced ibis were in the Visitor Center pool this morning.


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises

[Christopher Wood]

I think there have been at least two different White-faced Ibis at
Montezuma this fall. A 1st-year bird that was found on the 17th and was
seen daily through the 22nd. Starting the 23rd, I believe only the 1st-year
Glossy Ibis was seen until the 27th. On the 27th, "The" White-faced Ibis
appeared again -- the only problem is that this individual looks completely
different and appears to be a 2nd-year bird.

Here is a photo of the first bird (1st-year). Note the relatively uniform
appearance:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68672476@N00/10392659105/in/photolist-gQn6tF-gQo4XR-gQnbEw-gQnc5a

The second individual, apparently a second-year bird, looks very different.
Note the contrast between the wing coverts and scapulars.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/

I think Andy Guthrie was the first to bring this to our attention.

Thanks,
Chris


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Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, New York
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On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jay McGowan  wrote:

> Thought some may be interested, after a period of absence and then with
> only the Glossy Ibis present, LaRue and Jackie report that both the Glossy
> and the White-faced ibis were in the Visitor Center pool this morning.
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma trip

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Here is our checklist with the Black-throated Green (although I think
others may have gotten better pictures):
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S15544306
And Colvin Marsh with the white-faced Dunlin:
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S15547469


On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:12 PM, david nicosia  wrote:

> Here's a few shots of the shorebirds that Jay mentioned at Colvin Marsh
> Savannah, NY across from the MAC.
> Did not get a decent one of the odd dunlin.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/davenicosia/sets/72157637243721246/
>
> What is nice about this place is that you can actually get CLOSE to the
> shorebirds!!!
>
> Dave Nicosia
>
>
>   On Saturday, November 2, 2013 3:40 PM, Jay McGowan 
> wrote:
>  We're on our way back now, but we had a pretty successful trip until the
> train started in earnest. Highlights were a very late BLACK-THROATED GREEN
> WARBLER in the willows along shore at Long Point State Park; BONAPARTE'S
> GULLS off Frontenac Park and Harris Park; both GLOSSY and WHITE-FACED IBIS
> at the visitor center pond; 3 BRANT and AMERICAN TREE SPARROWS on Towpath
> Road; and a gorgeous juvenile WHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPER and a dull LEAST
> SANDPIPER with about 36 DUNLIN at Colvin Marsh in Savannah. One of the
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> post photos when I get home. Thanks to everyone who joined me!
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma trip

[david nicosia]

Here's a few shots of the shorebirds that Jay mentioned at Colvin Marsh 
Savannah, NY across from the MAC.
Did not get a decent one of the odd dunlin. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/davenicosia/sets/72157637243721246/


What is nice about this place is that you can actually get CLOSE to the 
shorebirds!!!  

Dave Nicosia 



On Saturday, November 2, 2013 3:40 PM, Jay McGowan  wrote:
 
We're on our way back now, but we had a pretty successful trip until the train 
started in earnest. Highlights were a very late BLACK-THROATED GREEN WARBLER in 
the willows along shore at Long Point State Park; BONAPARTE'S GULLS off 
Frontenac Park and Harris Park; both GLOSSY and WHITE-FACED IBIS at the visitor 
center pond; 3 BRANT and AMERICAN TREE SPARROWS on Towpath Road; and a gorgeous 
juvenile WHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPER and a dull LEAST SANDPIPER with about 36 DUNLIN 
at Colvin Marsh in Savannah. One of the Dunlin had very white underparts and 
eyestripe, very odd looking. I will post photos when I get home. Thanks to 
everyone who joined me! 
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Ibis flew west

[Meena Madhav Haribal]

Hi all,

Whether photographers disturb the birds or not, I find that whenever you point 
a big lens towards the birds they are spooked and they tend to fly away! They 
see things as probably big eyes staring at them and that makes them 
uncomfortable.



As for Mark Millers comments, I think the Benning's has hardly any traffic at 
all so I don't see any problem in facing wrong way to photograph or see the 
birds closely for a short period as one cannot get out of the car. The road is 
wide enough.  Many times the refuge itself has made the road two ways when the 
construction was going on. I am sure the driver was careful enough not to ram 
into the up coming traffic.



As for the sightings from my home, I find lots of Blue Jays spend their time in 
my yard pottering around in fall season. Yesterday I saw them hiding oak nuts 
under spruce trees. At work, from office window, I see everyday lots of Blue 
Jays going with a nut in one direction only, that is they fly southwest and 
approximately from the same location. i.e one oak tree. So I wonder if they 
have a specific location where they store nuts rather than random scattering. 
Anyone has seen something like this I would be curious to hear about it.



Cheers

Meena









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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Ibis flew west

[Dave Nutter]

There are plenty of people with giant lenses who know how to be subtle, so I don't think equipment envy is the issue. Gary is a fine observer, photographer, and outdoorsman who knows how to approach wildlife. The issue, I think, is awareness of how to act so as not to spook the birds, especially rare birds which others are watching, too. Using a big lens out a car window, as I saw people doing Thursday, worked well, but a couple of people getting out of their car and walking for a closer view or photo scared the Ibises away from 6 cars of other observers, but fortunately the birds only flew a short distance that time. I suspect that disrupting the profile of the vehicle by standing through the sun-roof, and not even being gentle about the movements with lens and sandbag, were the triggers. The Ibises seemed tame because they were so close to the road, but that doesn't mean they will tolerate people getting even partially out of cars so close.--Dave NutterOn Oct 19, 2013, at 10:33 AM, John Cancalosi  wrote:As a photographer that has followed this list for sometime, I am grateful that the inappropriate actions of my fraternity are regularly highlighted by certain members of the birdwatching community. Although I wasn't the photographer mentioned in the post, I always welcome these opportunities to be reminded of the shaky moral ground upon which I and all photographers stand. The present entry leaves me realizing the ever-present need to reset my moral compass in order to meet the exacting standards of those who are the true shining beacons of propriety as far as conduct in the outdoors goes. I would however point out that the present commentator seems to exhibit a certain degree of "equipment envy", which may have influenced his judgement.  Submitted with all due respects and abundant humility.On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Gary Kohlenberg  wrote:As I was studying the two Ibis at Benning Marsh around 6:15pm a photographer arrived, wiggled his bulk up through the sunroof of the van, slapped down a sandbag , hauled up his giant lens and managed to spook the Ibis away to the west. I didn't see them again , but maybe they will be back in the morning after an evening cruise. I hope.  Gary--  Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm  ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html  Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/  -- --Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives:The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird!--
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Ibis flew west

[John Cancalosi]

As a photographer that has followed this list for sometime, I am grateful
that the inappropriate actions of my fraternity are regularly highlighted
by certain members of the birdwatching community. Although I wasn't the
photographer mentioned in the post, I always welcome these opportunities to
be reminded of the shaky moral ground upon which I and all photographers
stand. The present entry leaves me realizing the ever-present need to reset
my moral compass in order to meet the exacting standards of those who are
the true shining beacons of propriety as far as conduct in the outdoors
goes. I would however point out that the present commentator seems to
exhibit a certain degree of "equipment envy", which may have influenced his
judgement.  Submitted with all due respects and abundant humility.


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Gary Kohlenberg  wrote:

> As I was studying the two Ibis at Benning Marsh around 6:15pm a
> photographer arrived, wiggled his bulk up through the sunroof of the van,
> slapped down a sandbag , hauled up his giant lens and managed to spook the
> Ibis away to the west. I didn't see them again , but maybe they will be
> back in the morning after an evening cruise. I hope.
>
> Gary
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma area (sans the refuge)

[Kenneth V. Rosenberg]

It's pretty amazing that "the usual" includes 2 white pelicans and 6 sandhill 
cranes!

Ken

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 5, 2013, at 8:16 PM, "M Miller" 
mailto:mmiller...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Since the refuge is still closed, thought I’d check some other nearby areas.

Knox-Marsellus (Towpath & East Rds. are still open) had the usual, 2 Am White 
pelicans, 6 Sandhill Cranes, numerous Great Egrets, Yellowlegs (Greater?), 
Peregrine Falcon, lots of Kinglets (both RC & GC), Snow Geese (6 adult white, 1 
juvenile white, 1 blue) and one Ross’s Goose. Also had 3 swans (assume 
Trumpeter - too dark & far too be sure).

Headed up to Savannah & Van Dyne Spoor Rd where I found a Merlin (munching on a 
bird), couple Bald Eagles (juveniles), several BC Night-herons, couple more 
trumpeter Swans, lots of WC & WT sparrows, one Fox Sparrow, many more RC & GC 
Kinglets, Blue-headed Vireo, Blackpoll Warbler, YR Warblers, 4 N. Flickers on 
one phone pole,  and a close up of a Winter Wren.

Also checked out Howland’s Island, but only found lots of Kinglets (both types) 
& one YB Sapsucker.

Followed up the day by enjoying Tom Gallagher's presentation on the Imperial 
Woodpecker at the Audubon Center in Savannah.

Photos can be viewed on the Eaton Birding Society facebook page.


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Knox-Marcellus Hudsonian Godwits,Snow Geese:(,Dunlin

[Matthew Medler]

Jay McGowan and I were also at Knox-Marcellus Marsh yesterday (28 Sept 2013), a 
bit earlier in the morning than the group from Rochester. Jay could comment on 
exact details much better than I, but I did want to say that the two American 
White Pelicans were present during our visit. 


Good birding,
Matt Medler
Ithaca




 From: Michael and Joann Tetlow 
To: cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu; geneseebird...@geneseo.edu 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 1:31 PM
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Knox-Marcellus Hudsonian Godwits,Snow 
Geese:(,Dunlin
 


 
   I was going to
write up the whole field trip but thought I should post that the RBA field trip
yesterday had 2 Hudsonian Godwits at Knox Marcellus Marsh plus 4 Dunlin and the
first 5 Snow Geese(1 Blue-morph). Here is the ebird list for that location.
Mike Tetlow http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S15281345
 
 
 

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma today evening!

[Meena Madhav Haribal]

Hi Brad,
How many egrets did you find there? I thought it was you but you did not 
recognize me so I thought it might have been someone else who was reading a 
book or something like that. Plus I was in a different car too. May  be you 
were reading an Edgar Allen Poe when I passed you :)

Meena



From: bounce-107988866-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-107988866-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Brad Walker
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:22 PM
To: Meena Madhav Haribal
Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma today evening!

Hi all,

Sorry for the late reply. I was with Tim yesterday and we had all the birds 
Meena mentioned at East road, plus the continuing WHIMBREL very close to 
Towpath Road and a MERLIN chasing shorebirds around for a while. There was also 
a (most likely) MOURNING WARBLER with some NASHVILLE WARBLERS on Towpath. There 
wasn't anything really of note from elsewhere in the refuge that we visited.
We also found all of the Egrets Meena was missing in the small wetland across 
the street and down the road from the Audubon Center.
- Brad

On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Meena Madhav Haribal 
mailto:m...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

Hi all,

As I had a transportation today, I decided to take a long drive to MNWR.

On the way I stopped at Myers nothing of interest to report. At Aurora, I saw 
an adult Bald Eagle, which soared for sometime parallel to my car.  Again at 
Mud Lock I saw two adult Bald Eagles sitting on a dead tree and a  few crows 
harassing them.

I took wildlife drive hoping for Soras  and the alike. At Visitor Center there 
were numerous Pectoral Sandpipers (20+), one White-rumped Sandpiper, and one 
Greater Yellowlegs. In the Seneca River spillway, just at the beginning of the 
drive there were two Lesser yellowlegs in lesser water and two Greater 
Yellowlegs in deeper water.

On the main pool lot of duck activity was evident. Lots of Pintails and 
American Widgeons were flying in the air. Tons of Green-winged teals were 
clustered around the vegetation. La Rues, New Shorebird area and Bennings were 
devoid of shorebirds, but Bennings had a few Shovlers along with other common 
species.



May's point Pool had lots of Ring-billed gulls and one Pied-billed Grebe.



At Knox Marsellus, there were lots of shorebirds most of them were concentrated 
here rather than near the Towpath.

I quickly picked out 7 HUDSONIAN GODWITS, lots of Pectoral Sandpipers and 
Golden Plovers (30+) and one Black-bellied Plover among them.  Shorebirds for 
no reasons were taking off in a group and land somewhere else. I think this was 
pre-long distance take off exercise. May be many of them might take off today. 
I wonder when they take off , at dusk? A cormorant had caught a fish and it was 
being harassed by a Ring-billed Gull for quite sometime. Later another 
Ring-billed Gull was chasing a Greater Yellowleg, with something in its beak 
for quite sometime.



Two American Pelicans were sleeping, one bill tucked inside its feather and the 
other with bill in the open.

I also saw a few Barn and lots of Tree Swallows over the water.  A small flock 
of Bobolink flew over the marsh. Otherwise it was comparatively quiet.



One thing of note was there were no Egrets anywhere in the refuge!



Also I had a rare sighting of Tim Lenz, who got out of the car with his scope 
and scanned the Knox-Marsellus quickly in about 5 minutes and left! He scanned 
the area where the Hudsonian Godwits were seen, so I presume he was not 
interested in other birds or he might have birded the area previously and came 
for a better look of some species!



Cheers

Meena


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma today evening!

[Brad Walker]

Hi all,

Sorry for the late reply. I was with Tim yesterday and we had all the birds
Meena mentioned at East road, plus the continuing WHIMBREL very close to
Towpath Road and a MERLIN chasing shorebirds around for a while. There was
also a (most likely) MOURNING WARBLER with some NASHVILLE WARBLERS on
Towpath. There wasn't anything really of note from elsewhere in the refuge
that we visited.

We also found all of the Egrets Meena was missing in the small wetland
across the street and down the road from the Audubon Center.

- Brad


On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Meena Madhav Haribal wrote:

>   Hi all,
>
> As I had a transportation today, I decided to take a long drive to MNWR.
>
> On the way I stopped at Myers nothing of interest to report. At Aurora, I
> saw an adult Bald Eagle, which soared for sometime parallel to my car.
> Again at Mud Lock I saw two adult Bald Eagles sitting on a dead tree and a
> few crows harassing them.
>
> I took wildlife drive hoping for Soras  and the alike. At Visitor Center
> there were numerous Pectoral Sandpipers (20+), one White-rumped Sandpiper,
> and one Greater Yellowlegs. In the Seneca River spillway, just at the
> beginning of the drive there were two Lesser yellowlegs in lesser water and
> two Greater Yellowlegs in deeper water.
>
> On the main pool lot of duck activity was evident. Lots of Pintails and
> American Widgeons were flying in the air. Tons of Green-winged teals were
> clustered around the vegetation. La Rues, New Shorebird area and Bennings
> were devoid of shorebirds, but Bennings had a few Shovlers along with other
> common species.
>
>
>
> May's point Pool had lots of Ring-billed gulls and one Pied-billed Grebe.
>
>
>
> At Knox Marsellus, there were lots of shorebirds most of them were
> concentrated here rather than near the Towpath.
>
> I quickly picked out 7 HUDSONIAN GODWITS, lots of Pectoral Sandpipers and
> Golden Plovers (30+) and one Black-bellied Plover among them.  Shorebirds
> for no reasons were taking off in a group and land somewhere else. I think
> this was pre-long distance take off exercise. May be many of them might
> take off today. I wonder when they take off , at dusk? A cormorant had
> caught a fish and it was being harassed by a Ring-billed Gull for quite
> sometime. Later another Ring-billed Gull was chasing a Greater Yellowleg,
> with something in its beak for quite sometime.
>
>
>
> Two American Pelicans were sleeping, one bill tucked inside its feather
> and the other with bill in the open.
>
> I also saw a few Barn and lots of Tree Swallows over the water.  A small
> flock of Bobolink flew over the marsh. Otherwise it was comparatively
> quiet.
>
>
>
> One thing of note was there were no Egrets anywhere in the refuge!
>
>
>
> Also I had a rare sighting of Tim Lenz, who got out of the car with his
> scope and scanned the Knox-Marsellus quickly in about 5 minutes and left!
> He scanned the area where the Hudsonian Godwits were seen, so I presume he
> was not interested in other birds or he might have birded the area
> previously and came for a better look of some species!
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Meena
>
>
> Meena Haribal
> Ithaca NY 14850
> http://haribal.org/
> http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Muckrace report from Plucky Mucksters.

[Judith Thurber]

I laughed and laughed as I read this, Dave.   Thank you for writing it!!!  
GREAT! F U N N Y!  Fabulous!
Judy Thurber
Liverpool

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:

> The Montezuma Muckrace, the fundraising bird-a-thon for the Friends of the 
> Montezuma Wetlands Complex, was during the 24-hour period starting 7pm Friday 
> 6 September. The Cayuga Bird Club sponsored our team, The Plucky Mucksters, 
> which this year consisted of Gary Kohlenberg, Ann Mitchell, Susan Danskin, 
> and myself, Dave Nutter. (Note: The name "Plucky Mucksters" was coined years 
> ago by team founder and sometime leader, Bob McGuire, who did not participate 
> this year. The rest of us think this name is goofy and are considering next 
> year adopting a name with a less obscure bird reference, although perhaps 
> equally goofy. Some names are great, such as the stationary team "Sittidae" 
> and the biking team "The Un-Carbonated Wobblers". It'll take a lot of thought 
> to come up with something that good, and we're not known for such effort, but 
> 11 months of subconscious mulling plus a few minutes of actual fretting as 
> the deadline arrives may result in improvement.)
> 
> Once again we entered in the "Recreational" rather than the "Competitive" 
> category. This is in recognition of the well-established fact that we do not 
> constitute competition to several other teams, and that pretending otherwise 
> would result in crushed egos when a team whose average age is a third of ours 
> accumulates 40% more species of birds, as was the case with this year's 
> winning team of Cornell students. We also acknowledge that we are somewhat 
> handicapped by my dulled hearing, Susan's complete unfamiliarity with fall 
> warblers, Ann's balkiness when the rest of us clamber atop piles of road 
> construction debris for a better view into nearby weeds, and Gary's... 
> actually Gary is steady, well-studied, and observant. How did he end up on 
> our team? Our primary goal was to have fun, which of course means finding 
> birds, but which experience tells us does not mean wandering through clouds 
> of mosquitos all night wondering if the noises in the dark are simply other 
> lost souls making owl-like noises. We have also tried only staying up half 
> the night not finding owls, and we still ended up cranky, so our tradition is 
> to start at daybreak on Saturday morning. 
> 
> Our first stop was Mud Lock, chosen because it's close to where we enter the 
> Muckrace boundaries as we drive north from Ithaca, allowing us spend maximum 
> time in our own beds. It's also inspiring to have BALD EAGLE and OSPREY among 
> the first birds of the day, even though, as expected we encountered them 
> other places throughout the day. Here we saw and heard our first GREEN HERON 
> of at least 4 for the day, which also felt good because several people who 
> record night flight calls reported a major migration of them on Thursday 
> night. Perhaps they were arriving as well as leaving. Other Mud Lock dawn 
> phenomena include a flight of swallows toward the lake, presumably from 
> roosting sites in the Montezuma marshes, and a less substantial flight of 
> gulls from the lake toward Montezuma for more obscure reasons. Both these 
> groups are a challenge to ID high against a gray sky. Our biggest surprise at 
> Mud Lock was to see two flying COMMON LOONS (long necks in front of a humped 
> back; feet extended like a tail; long, narrow, pointed, rubbery wings 
> constantly flapping) high over the bay to our south. We were hoping to see a 
> Red-headed Woodpecker, which we saw there twice on scouting trips, but it did 
> not cooperate (nor did the Mays Point family, despite two visits there). 
> 
> The second major stop for us was Howland's Island. We could have driven onto 
> the island from the west on Carncross Road and even driven past the gate 
> whose lock combination was given to Muckrace teams, but we approached from 
> the traditional southeast side. There's good birding along the narrow, 2-mile 
> road from NYS-38 north of Port Byron, and it's satisfying to leave the car at 
> the end of the road in the floodplain forest and walk over the iron bridge 
> onto the quiet island. Shortly after our arrival we met a mixed foraging 
> flock of small birds. They were numerous, active, high in the tall trees, 
> backlit, and smaller than the leaves. Many birds were too poorly seen for us 
> to identify, but perhaps if we'd memorized all the fall warbler traits we'd 
> have done better. Another issue was that, despite being a "Recreational" 
> team, we decided to follow "Competitive" rules - 95% of species we listed had 
> to be observed by the whole team - because it's more fun if we all can share 
> a bird. It was challenging simply to point out these fast-moving birds, let 
> alone ID them, so several of our "dirty birds" for the day were from this 
> encounter. Shortly after the flock moved deeper into the 

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma 7Sep2013

[Meena Madhav Haribal]

That is an impressive list for the morning and just along Towpath Road!



Meena



Meena Haribal
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From: bounce-107916036-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-107916036-3493...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Jay McGowan 
[jw...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 11:09 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma 7Sep2013

I wasn't on a Muckrace team this year, but I couldn't resist birding Montezuma 
yesterday anyway. I spent the whole morning along Towpath Road, and although I 
didn't find anything amazing, I saw some nice birds for that spot. I also 
managed 101 species between (and during) rain showers, so it was a fun morning. 
Highlights included continuing shorebirds such as AMERICAN GOLDEN-PLOVER, 
WHIMBREL, STILT, BAIRD'S, and WHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPERS, the continuing AMERICAN 
WHITE PELICAN, a high count of *89* BLACK-CROWNED NIGHT-HERONS, Peregrine 
Falcon, and Merlin. I also spent more time than usual looking for passerines 
along the road, which yielded, among others, YELLOW-BELLIED, LEAST, and WILLOW 
FLYCATCHERS; WILSON'S, CAPE MAY, TENNESSEE, YELLOW, BLACKPOLL, Chestnut-sided, 
and Magnolia warblers, American Redstart, Yellow-throated Vireo, BROWN THRASHER 
(a good bird for this spot), and an early RUBY-CROWNED KINGLET.

Full checklist (with a few photos) here:
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S15118176

Sounds like the Muckrace itself was successful as well. I hope someone who was 
there can give us a more detailed account, but what I have heard so far was 
that the Cornell undergraduate team won with 139 species!

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

[david nicosia]

Also one WILSON'S PHALAROPE, BAIRDS SANDPIPER, SANDERLING and many many 
shorebirds as others have noted. Pelican still present too. Tomorrow should be 
a great trip 

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

[david nicosia]

Phalaropes are red necked. 3 of them so far. great views from east rd now

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma Friday evening - Marbled Godwit

[Gary Chapin]

The Godwit is still at Knox-Marsellus this morning. 

Gary Chapin
Ticonderoga, NY

On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:12 AM, Jay McGowan  wrote:

> I took Kini Roesler, a visiting recordist from Argentina, up to Montezuma 
> after work today to see what dropped in with the rain and show him some of 
> our birds. Bald Eagles and Black Terns were big highlights for him, as well 
> as what passes for ducks at this time of year. The Wildlife Drive was quiet 
> as usual, as was Tschache. We had a quick look at a Red-headed Woodpecker at 
> Mays Point before moving on to East Road. As we left, I told Kini, "now time 
> to find a Marbled Godwit!" as I have been seeing reports around the state and 
> he had mentioned that as one of the few shorebirds that he had not seen. No 
> sooner had we set up and scanned through some of the closer shorebirds than I 
> picked out...a MARBLED GODWIT! It was foraging out in the deep water with the 
> yellowlegs, Stilt Sandpipers, and dowitchers, and towered over all of them. 
> Enormous, glowing buff-colored, and with an extremely long, pink bill tipped 
> with black, it is pretty unmistakable, even at the extreme distances 
> involved. After the shorebirds shuffled at one point it ended up in the 
> middle of the gull flock out in the middle of the southern half of 
> Knox-Marsellus. Viewing probably would have been fine or even a little better 
> from Towpath, but the beautiful evening light made us stay at East Road. 
> Photos of this bird, beautiful as it was in the scope, were far from 
> satisfactory, but here are two horrific attempts:
> https://picasaweb.google.com/37855303614931880/Summer2013#5907739200448814546
> https://picasaweb.google.com/37855303614931880/Summer2013#5907739205363375186
> 
> Other birds here included a juvenile WILSON'S PHALAROPE, 2 White-rumped 
> Sandpipers, 1 Sandering, 7 Wilson's Snipe, 34 Stilt Sandpipers, ~10 
> Short-billed Dowitchers, and lots of the usual shorebirds. The AMERICAN WHITE 
> PELICAN continues, sleeping obscured in the bushes for a while before waking 
> up and flying out in to the open water.
> 
> Van Dyne Spoor Road at dusk was entertaining as always but with no species of 
> particular note. The egret roost seems to have moved farther out to the south 
> of the road and mostly out of view.
> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma NWR (Benning Marsh) - Duck ID ?

[Kenneth V. Rosenberg]

Hi Jason,

Yes, your bird is a molting Ring-necked Duck. There is a single Ring-neck, a 
bit further along in it's molt into eclipse plumage, at Stewart Park in Ithaca 
this week as well.

KEN


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On Jul 29, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Jason Huck 
mailto:jasonrh...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:

Hello all,

Fledging birder here looking for some expert identification support. Sorry for 
the late post; I just uploaded the video clip this morning.

On Saturday, July 27th around 11:20am, at Benning Marsh (on Wildlife Drive) at 
MNWR, as I studied my shorebirds (from a bit closer than Knox-Marcellus), I 
sighted an "odd" duck amongst the locals. The following is a digiscoped iPhone 
video: http://www.flickr.com/photos/69504362@N03/9394946943/ . Is this possibly 
a Ring-necked Duck ??? According to eBird data, Ring-necked Ducks would be an 
uncommon sighting.

Interestingly, I spied a similar duck in Anchorage, AK (Potters Marsh) several 
weeks back that a local eBird reviewer group identified for me as a molting 
male Ring-necked Duck (white bill band is not present). Here are the photos:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/69504362@N03/9208187511/in/set-72157634479221099
http://www.flickr.com/photos/69504362@N03/9211011708/in/set-72157634479221099/

Comments appreciated.

Thanks!

Fledging Cayuga Basin Birder,
Jason Huck
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma 4 July

[Dave Nutter]

This seems not to have gone through the first time I sent it.--Dave NutterOn Jul 05, 2013, at 04:36 AM, "Dave Nutter"  wrote:Yesterday evening I took a trip to Montezuma NWR. Along the Wildlife Drive I encountered my first SORA of the year, a black downy chick with a tiny black-tipped pink nub of a bill, tiny black nubs of featherless wings, and big black feet. It was foraging by itself, slowly walking about and pecking at the mud among cattails and other marsh emergents in the first half of the "shorebird flats". Although I watched it for several minutes, I saw no adult in the area; the little tyke seemed to be on its own. This was the first time I'd seen one so young.From the east end of Van Dyne Spoor Road I found my first definite LEAST BITTERN of the year far to the south as I was scanning with a scope. It was flying west low over the marsh, eventually descending into it. It reminded me of a meadowlark in size, shape (short tail, round body & wings, flat head & long, pointy bill) and general tan & gray color above, but not as bright yellow below, and its wingbeats were slow and even rather than rapid and stiff, plus it showed huge bright buffy patches atop the inner wings. Other Ardeids I found included plenty of GREAT BLUE HERONS throughout, half a dozen BLACK-CROWNED NIGHT-HERONS and 29 GREAT EGRETS mostly gathered in the center of the marsh along with a single GREEN HERON, but I didn't find any American Bittern to complete the sweep. --Dave Nutter
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma (TRICOLORED HERON) and Owasco Lake - 5/5

[Susan Fast]

Chris,

 

Glad you got to see the heron.  Susie & I just returned from N. Carolina
where we spent part of a morning watching about 6 of them feeding, flying,
interacting.  Couple other highlights of the trip were 3 piping plovers at
Chincoteague NWR.  They were in a lagoon behind the beach; possibly because
the beach was covered with people, horses, and tons of sand-moving
equipment.  Also watched, close-up, 2 oyster catchers feeding on a mussel
bed.  I still need more observations to flesh out my theory of prey choice
and valve opening behavior.  Oh, and 302 alternate-plumaged marbled godwits
at Willis Wharf, Va.  We thought of you as we were counting them.  Today,
I'm off to the Adirondacks for 2 weeks.  Retirement does have some
advantages.  S. & S. Fast

 

  _  

From: bounce-88370343-9286...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-88370343-9286...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher
Wood
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 9:57 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma (TRICOLORED HERON) and Owasco Lake - 5/5

 

Tom Johnson and I spent the morning birding a few areas in the Finger Lakes.
Here's a quick summary of our birding along with links to eBird checklists,
many of which have photos, more comments , and links to a map of the
location.

 

We started birding at Island Park on the north end of Owasco Lake, which had
3 Red-breasted Mergansers and 10 Snow Geese. The mergansers were all on the
water when we arrived and then flew up, circled and flew off to the west. 

eBird Checklist: http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S13994840

 

We spent the rest morning birding northern portions of the Montezuma Wetland
Complex.

 

Carncross Road was highlighted by 2 Trumpeter Swans, a family of Sandhill
Cranes including a recently hatched bird, and a fabulous female Wilson's
Phalarope. Perhaps the biggest surprise here was the large number of Lapland
Longspurs, including several males that flew overhead several times, often
with American Pipits. In a quick check of eBird this evening, we only saw
one other May record in New York (Willie D'Anna, Niagara County 11 May
2012). 

eBird Checklist: http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S13995564

 

We headed over to Howland Island where highlights included a extremely
cooperative Cerulean Warbler (photos) and a Vesper Sparrow singing from
north of the parking lot at the end of Carncross Road.

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S13995548

 

>From there we headed to Van Dyne Spoor and the Sandhill Crane Unit of
Montezuma. We arrived to find Jay McGowan and Livia Santana had just found a
TRICOLORED HERON that flew over them, landed, but was hidden in the marsh.
Luckily, over the next 110 minutes we were there the bird flew up out of the
marsh several times and we enjoyed prolonged and excellent views of it in
flight. Shortly after joining Jay and Livia, two Glossy Ibis flew directly
overhead and straight away, never to be seen again (at least by us). There
were also good numbers of Black-crowned Night-Herons, Green Herons, Great
Blue Herons and at least one American Bittern, and nesting Trumpeter Swans.
We also had several flyover Lapland Longspurs here. Just before leaving we
had prolonged views of a mink.

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S13997039

 

Towpath Rd./ Knox-Marcellus Marsh was fairly uneventful.

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S14001609

 

Christopher Wood

eBird Project Leader

Cornell Lab of Ornithology

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Re:[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma meeting place

[Donna Scott]

Xing,
CLO stands for Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology, so it's the parking lot in 
front of the ornithology lab On Sapsucker Woods Road. is that enough 
information?

Donna

Sent from my iPhone
Donna Scott

On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Xing Cai  wrote:

> Hi there, 
> 
> I am Xing Cai and I will go to the trip tmr. Do you know where the CLO 
> parking lot is? This is the place we are supposed to meet tmr morning. 
> 
> Thanks! 
> Xing
> 

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma area Cattle Egret

[nutter.dave]

I would guess that means NYS-89 by the giant goose (Goose Haven) between 5&20 and I-90. I found a Cattle Egret among the cattle there late in a previous year.--Dave NutterOn Oct 28, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Jay McGowan  wrote:No more information so far, hopefully we can get more specifics.  Cattle Egret (Bubulcus ibis) (1) - Reported Oct 27, 2012 07:00 by Frances Greenberg - Montezuma NWR, Seneca, New York - Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=42.9669117,-76.7406876&ll=42.9669117,-76.7406876 - Checklist: http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S11891229 - Comments: "outside of Montezuma NWR, in field with cattle; seen 2x"  --  Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edu  --  Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm  ARCHIVES: 1) cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html'>http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html  Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/  --
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re:[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma highlights [10/18/12] & upcoming field trip

[Dave Spier]

Looking at the digest version, it seems that this got pretty messed up, so I 
took out the eBird report links.
 
I was with Ed Norman scouting the Refuge & Towpath -- Visitor Center 
highlights: 3 harriers, grtr & lsr YL, 1 semipalm sand, 15 pec's, 1 dunlin... 
LaRue's highlights: shovelers, 25 Green-wings + 1 Blue-winged Teal... 
Main Pool highlights: 5 coots... 
Shorebird Flats highlights: juv. PEREGRINE, snipe, SNOW BUNTING... 
Benning highlights: 4 Gadwall, pintails, green-wings... 
Wildlife Drive along Thruway - highlights: 2 P-b Grebes... 
Tschache highlights: 30 Wigeon, 30 pintails, 2 Turkey Vultures [one with 
injured wing on ground], 1 RUSTY close... 
May's Point Pool: no highlights [very little water]... 
Towpath Rd. - Knox-Marsellus highlights: 28 Snow's, 2 woodie's, 25 pintails, 15 
cormorants, 2 harriers, 2 B. Eagles, 1+ Northern ROUGH-WINGED, 1+ Tree Sw., Am. 
Pipits, 5+ Yellow-rumps, 2 White-crowns [first winter]... 
Puddler's highlights: 6 Black-bellied Plovers... Dave SpierEaton Birding 
Society field trip to Montezuma -- 
Date: Saturday October 20, 2012 -- 
Time: 8:30 am - 11:30 am -- 
Location: Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge -- Meet at Visitor's Center -- 
Notes: Looking for migrating waterfowl
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