Re: [slim] Music playing at work options?

2007-10-29 Thread Gibbo

Thanks for the reply, could you be a bit more descriptive please? what
do you mean by an external enclosure? 

I know you can get hard drive enclosures with audio out, but they
require a tv or something to view the files to decide what to play and
thats not really practical.


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Re: [slim] SB3 showing the wrong time

2007-10-29 Thread bhaagensen

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[slim] Wireless bridge w DOS client half works

2007-10-29 Thread DanielTheGreat

I'm sorry if the following paragraphs seem to jump around a little. 
I've copied them from my Logitech support e-mails (over a period of
weeks), with no solution from the support team.  They suggested I try
the forum.  Sorry about the length of this post too, but describing
everything I've tried might save a bit of to-and-froing.  I've done
minimal edits to try to improve the flow...

The touch-screen PC that I've programmed to control my (complex!) audio
system runs DOS 6.22 with Microsoft NET Client V3.11. In my previous
house I had this connected to my main (Win2000) PC via Cat5 cable.
Because there is no TCP/IP utility with NET (I found later there is -
see below), I accessed this touch PC using NetBIOS (in both
directions).
Having recently moved to a new house, I was hoping to avoid running a
cable between floors by using the wireless bridge facility of my
recently-acquired Squeezebox 3.
I connected the touch-PC to the Squeezebox via a crossover cable, and
the green light on the touch-PC indicates it has a hardware ethernet
connection. I enabled wirelss bridging on the Squeezebox, but I don't
get a network connection in either direction between the two PCs (but
things improved - see later).

OK, I finally found time to spend on this problem. I found
information on the 'net that eventually (after many hours!) allowed me
to get TCP/IP running on my DOS machine (using
Microsoft drivers, as it happens - there's a bug in their installation
procedure that omits a vital file!).

When that DOS PC is plugged directly into my wireless router (wired
Ethernet port) I can still share resources between the
two machines (my main PC runs Win2K, remember), moving files between
them for example (only in a DOS window on the Win2K
machine). I could also 'ping' my Win machine from the DOS machine,
getting a response:
[1] echo received from 192.168.1.1 with roundtrip  50 msec

But when I take the DOS machine back upstairs and plug it into the
Squeezebox, it fails to establish the 'shares' that
succeed when directly connected. But I can still ping the Win2K
machine, with the same (successful) result as above.

On the DOS machine, DHCP was enabled (not now - see below), but caused
problems.  So I've now changed the Touch-PC's network configuration to
use a fixed IP address, and then done some more tests. To simplify the
following discussion, I will refer to each PC by its network name: HIFI
is the DOS-based touch PC (running Microsoft Network Client 3.11)
wireless bridged via a Squeezebox 3, and ADVSOL5 is the Win2K machine
with a wireless router attached (also the network 'gateway', though I
don't think this is relevant, since I'm not wanting to access anything
other than Advsol5 from HiFi). 

When HiFi and Advsol5 are connected by Ethernet cable (via a wired
Ethernet port in the back of the wireless router), HiFi 'connects' to
Advsol5 OK during boot-up (can then access Advsol5's disc drives and
printer), and Advsol5 also connects with HiFi (can access HiFi's
drives). Keep in mind that accessing HiFi from Advsol5 always requires
opening a DOS window and using only DOS commands – if I try to look at
HiFi drives via Windows Explorer (the HiFi name does appear in the list
of networked computers) it causes an error saying something like 'this
network function not supported'. 

I can ping successfully in both directions. On HiFi I have both NetBEUI
and TCP/IP protocols enabled. If I disable NetBEUI (leaving TCP/IP as
the ONLY protocol), HiFi then won't connect with Advsol5's drives or
printer. This would suggest (to a novice like me) that the protocol
being used between them is 'NetBEUI over TCP/IP'. I found the following
information on a website about OS/2 networking (I think most of this is
relevant to DOS too): 

NetBIOS (NetBEUI) over TCP/IP (called TCPBEUI on OS/2) 
* Implementation of NetBIOS to operate with TCP/IP as transport
mechanism 
* Defined by RFCs 1001 and 1002 
* Solves the need to route a non-routable protocol 
* Encapsulates NetBEUI data in a TCP/IP or UDP/IP frame 
* Three modes of operation - Broadcast, Point-to-Point, and
Mixed/Hybrid 
* Service: NetBIOS Name Server (NBNS) 
* Service: NetBIOS Datagram Distribution (NBDD) 

So having got the WIRED LAN running to my satisfaction with fixed IP
address on HiFi, it was back upstairs to try it over the Squeezebox
wireless bridge again. At boot-up, HiFi failed to 'connect' to
Advsol5's resources (drives  printer). But I could still successfully
ping Advsol5, and now the ping also succeeded in the reverse direction.
Furthermore, although HiFi couldn't access any Advsol5 resources (since
they weren't 'connected'), Advsol5 could now access HiFi's drives! 

On Advsol5, HiFi's drives are given substitute names:
\\hifi\c: - T:,
\\hifi\d: - U:
This drive assignment is done with the following DOS commands on
Advsol5: 
net use t: \\hifi\c
net use u: \\hifi\d 
(having instructed HiFi [in its AUTOEXEC.BAT] to share its C: drive as
'c' and D: drive as 'd') 

With a wired 

[slim] SB3 showing the wrong time

2007-10-29 Thread Gumboe

I have a SB3 connected to a Qnap TS209, everything works well, both are
good pieces of kit.  However since BST ended and we're back on GMT my
SB3 is still showing the wrong (old) time.

I don't know where the SB3 gets it's time from and how I configure it. 
So far I have logged on to the GUI for the TS209 and ensured that it's
pointing to a reachable NTP server.  The TS209 is able to get the
correct time and logging on to the TS209 via putty and running the date
command shows that it's got the correct time.

I've had a look at the SB3 and gone into as many menus as I can find. 
From memory I went into Squeezenetwork and I think I saw an entry for
Time Format and Time-Zone.  The Time-zone is correct and the time in
this menu option is correct.  However when the date/time screensaver
kicks in I still get the wrong time displayed.

Has anyone seen this before?  I'm sure the problem is probably between
the keyboard and the chair.

Any help appreciated.


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[slim] Sound card w Toslink for playing DTS FLAC files

2007-10-29 Thread DanielTheGreat

I'm a newbie to this forum, so forgive me if this topic has already been
covered at length (please just direct me to the thread in that case).

I recently acquired a couple of Squeezebox 3's, and have set up one
with my Hi-Fi system, streaming the audio from my 'server' PC via a
wireless router. The Squeezebox connects via Toslink to a surround
receiver, and works perfectly playing DTS tracks from either WAV or
FLAC ripped DTS files.

But I also want to hear these same tracks on my second surround
receiver connected to the SlimServer PC (in a different room), also via
Toslink. Trouble is my present sound card (HDA Digital X-Mystique 7.1
Gold with X10 SPDIF Input Extension board), though connected via
Toslink to my second DTS receiver, won't play DTS WAV/FLAC files
correctly (I just get the usual analogue white noise).

This board correctly plays DTS CDs  DVDs when the 'S/PDIF In Loopback'
option is selected, provided the disc drive's digital output is plugged
into the Mystique's (internal) digital input (the board is then simply
passing-through the DTS bit-stream from the disc to the Toslink
output). But playing a ripped DTS track (via any of several player
applications, including SoftSqueeze) somehow corrupts the DTS stream.
I'm guessing it's changing the gain via the board's software mixer,
even if I disable all inputs other than 'WAV' and set its 'volume' to
maximum.

So what I'm looking for is a (preferably low-cost) sound card that
allows playback of uncorrupted DTS WAV and FLAC files via a Toslink
output to an external DTS surround receiver, using any common player
software (but particularly SoftSqueeze and SqueezeSlave [now preferred
over the flaky SoftSqueeze]). The board must also have a Toslink input,
for digital recording.

Anybody have experience with such a board? Recommendations?  Preferably
something available in Australia (the Audigy 2 Platinum eX Audio Cards
currently being sold on eBay are not available to Australia).
Incidentally, I'm running Windows 2000 in a PC with PCI slots and room
on the front for a 5.25 module if required, if that's relevant.


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Re: [slim] SB3 reviewed in England's Daily Telegraph

2007-10-29 Thread SixedUp

haunyack;238594 Wrote: 
 Would these users be satisfied with 160kpbs?
 I understand the economy of it, but with that bitrate, there is no
 reason as of yet NOT to purchase CD's or vinyl.
 
For a lot of users, yes, 160kbps is probably fine. There are a lot of
people out there who will be quite happy with that level of sound
quality, and be overjoyed at the convenience of not having to mess
around with CD's or vinyl any more. Different strokes for different
folks :)

Cheers
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Re: [slim] Sound card w Toslink for playing DTS FLAC files

2007-10-29 Thread radish

Windows  the card's drivers do a lot of processing to the sound before
it gets out - mixing, eq etc and as you suspect this is killing the DTS
bitstream. Try using ASIO drivers if you're not already, and look around
the home theater forums (like avs) for tips on getting bitperfect output
from that card.


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Re: [slim] Anyone using Windows Home Server?

2007-10-29 Thread byKnight

FWIW, after installing SlimServer on my WHS box, I pointed it at
d:\shares\Music (the path from the server's point of view, not the
clients') to find my music.

Installation was just like installing on any other Windows box. I
remoted in to the WHS desktop, installed it, and it just worked.


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Re: [slim] How are you running SlimServer/SqueezeCenter on Windows?

2007-10-29 Thread MajorD


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39650

Question: How are you starting SS/SC on Windows?

- when the machine is booted
- when I log in to Windows
- don't know
- I'm using iTunes integration
- my music is stored on a NAS


Windows XP Pro
Run as Service
No ITunes
No NAS

SC 7


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[slim] SqueezeCenter 7.0 and Mac OS X 10.5

2007-10-29 Thread wb52

Hello Everyone,

I finally got my SlimServer running on Leopard Mac OS 10.5. I'm using
version 7.0 and so far no problems. I had unplugged my Squeezebox and
let sit for awhile. I then plugged it back in and the SlimServer began
to communicate. I'm now a happy camper. I also created a widget to
access my SlimServer and control my music. This is awesome I love the
new interface on version 7.0. I know it's under testing right now so
use it at your own risk.


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Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7.0 and Mac OS X 10.5

2007-10-29 Thread Michael Herger
 I finally got my SlimServer running on Leopard Mac OS 10.5.

I'm trying to fix the start at boot issue right now. Would like to know  
what else you encountered.

 to communicate. I'm now a happy camper. I also created a widget to
 access my SlimServer and control my music.

Yeah, Safari's new widget tool is really cool! Here's a screenshot...
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39756

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[slim] Wireless Strength vs Network Test

2007-10-29 Thread Club1820

The other day when listening to the SB3 (wireless) any FLAC song played
started to fade in/out.   This has on occassion happened before.   I
was able to minimize it by moving the router and SB3 a little bit. 
When this has happened before - I noticed that the wireless strength
was low (50% - 68%) and it increased when I either changed channels or
moved the router.

Well this time the wireless strength was good (75%-87%) but the FLAC
files were still fading in  out.  So I decided to do the Network Test
Plugin and was very surprised that even at 1000 kbps it was only avg.
about 80%. I thought that was odd with such high Wireless Strength.

So I switched channels on the router from 11 to 1.   This resulted in a
Wireless Strength of 50% - 66%.  I then did the Network test again and
(surprise) it gave me 3000 kbps at 100%, 4000 kbps at 97% and 5000 kbps
at 92%.   

What gives?Isnt the wireless strength the indicator of the
reception of the SB3?  How can I stream at higher levels when the
wireless strength is lower?

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Re: [slim] Mac Leopard Support

2007-10-29 Thread Cintra

Slimserver is working ok for me on Leopard with Squeezebox, but the
Softsqueeze gui doesn't even appear when I attempt to start Softsqueeze
3.4 20-50-30


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Re: [slim] Playsist Gets Stuck During Synchronized Playback

2007-10-29 Thread Club1820

upstatemike;238597 Wrote: 
 The common theme seems to be mixing SB2/3s with SliMP3s or Softsqueeze. 

So is it definite that we can't synchronize an SB3 with Softsqueeze
without encountering problems?   This is how I synchronize and often
(most of the time) have issues.


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Re: [slim] Wireless Strength vs Network Test

2007-10-29 Thread snarlydwarf

Fade out?  Wireless strength has nothing to do with volume of the
audio.

There are -many- ways to measure network performance: signal strength
is only one of them.  Signal quality, for example, is another metric,
measuring how much noise is appearing on the network, which will
require retransmissions.  Likewise, any other data moving on the
network will affect things (only one device can transmit at any given
instant..) therefore, having a Server sending to a Client.. if both are
wireless, requires two hops: Server-AP, and AP-Client... this is true
if it is SlimServer, Bittorrent, HTTP, SMB, whatever.  Try to minimize
wireless hops so devices don't have to wait for the network to be
available).

But, again, Signal Strength by itself is a meaningless number.


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Re: [slim] Harmony remotes

2007-10-29 Thread iPhone

I am using the Harmony 1000.

Love the large LCD color touch display. It has huge WAF! If something
does not work properly (which isn't often) the better half can press
help and the remote finds the problem for her and corrects it. No other
universal remote I tried did this. Speaking of remotes, they are all
gone. No more buying batteries! The charging cradle is a great place to
find the remote, no more searching. Everybody puts the remote back on
the charging cradle when they are done so we always know where its at.

I have had it several months and am yet to find something I dislike. So
far so good. There is room on the remote to add some soft keys that
might be nice for advanced users. I guess because unlimited keys can be
added to the large LCD display it was felt this was not needed. But I
think advanced users would have liked to program a few most used keys
without going into a menu to get to them.


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Re: [slim] help with script to scrape album year data

2007-10-29 Thread Benway

CPAN has lots of modules for querying FreeDB.

The problem you'll find is that they tend to need the DiscID or
the cdrom available as /dev/cdrom etc...

Searching through CPAN modules with freedb id3 finds
WebService::FreeDB which looks like it
will do the trick.

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Re: [slim] help with script to scrape album year data

2007-10-29 Thread snarlydwarf

Musicbrainz often has that information, the catch is you may not agreee
with their definition of release date.

(ie, re-issues and remasters are supposed to get a new release
date...)

Allmusic.com may also have it, but they want a license signed before
using their data.


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[slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers

2007-10-29 Thread Paul_B

I have all my music CD's ripped to NAS storage as FLAC and this all
works beautifully with Squeezecenter and my SB3.

However, some times I would like to listen to the same music on a
portable device. Currently I have an original 2GB Nano but I am
thinking of getting a new device.

1. Should I get a new iPod? If so which one, Touch, Classic?

2. Should I get a non-iPod device (Zune Gen 2, Archos, Zen, Cowon,
etc); I assume I will still need to transcode from FLAC to Mp3?

3. Which Music Manager is best for ease of use, MediaMonkey, Sveta
from dbPowerAmp. etc?

I don't really want to rip to FLAC and MP3 and maintain two copies.


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Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers

2007-10-29 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting Paul_B ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 
 I have all my music CD's ripped to NAS storage as FLAC and this all
 works beautifully with Squeezecenter and my SB3.
 
 However, some times I would like to listen to the same music on a
 portable device. Currently I have an original 2GB Nano but I am
 thinking of getting a new device.
 
 1. Should I get a new iPod? If so which one, Touch, Classic?
 
 2. Should I get a non-iPod device (Zune Gen 2, Archos, Zen, Cowon,
 etc); I assume I will still need to transcode from FLAC to Mp3?

I use MediaMonkey to transcode to mp3 to my iPhone and formerly to
my ipod.  Works fine.  There are also alternate firmwares you can
load for older ipods that will allow them to store and play flac,
but this is overkill probably.  No such firmware exists yet to my
knowledge for the newer iPods (classic, touch, iphone).

You can also look into mp3fuse if are a linux person and/or have a
technical bent.  Both of these allow mp3s to be loaded to portable
devices from flac sources without requiring 2 trees.
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Re: [slim] Wireless Strength vs Network Test

2007-10-29 Thread SuperQ

Club1820;238688 Wrote: 
 The other day when listening to the SB3 (wireless) any FLAC song played
 started to fade in/out.   This has on occassion happened before.   I
 was able to minimize it by moving the router and SB3 a little bit. 
 When this has happened before - I noticed that the wireless strength
 was low (50% - 68%) and it increased when I either changed channels or
 moved the router.
 
 Well this time the wireless strength was good (75%-87%) but the FLAC
 files were still fading in  out.  So I decided to do the Network Test
 Plugin and was very surprised that even at 1000 kbps it was only avg.
 about 80%. I thought that was odd with such high Wireless Strength.
 
 So I switched channels on the router from 11 to 1.   This resulted in a
 Wireless Strength of 50% - 66%.  I then did the Network test again and
 (surprise) it gave me 3000 kbps at 100%, 4000 kbps at 97% and 5000 kbps
 at 92%.   
 
 What gives?Isnt the wireless strength the indicator of the
 reception of the SB3?  How can I stream at higher levels when the
 wireless strength is lower?
 
 Thanks for your replies.

Even if you have a lot of signal, you could have an interfering device
that is causing packet loss.  The signal strength is based on the
ratio of signal to noise.  Channel 11 may have a lower noise level, but
has a device that doesn't play well with wifi (cordless phones can do
this) that is causing it to fail.  Channel 1 may have a higher noise
floor but it doesn't have anything that is really causing problems.

Personally, I would ignore the signal strength thing, and just make
sure you can do 2000kbps with no packet loss.


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[slim] help with script to scrape album year data

2007-10-29 Thread bklaas

Over the weekend I spent a little time trying to figure out a way to
populate the year field in ID3 tags where it's missing.

I wrote a Perl script (on Linux, but I think it's portable to other
OS's) to zip through my collection, find files with missing year tags,
and output the results one-line-per-artist/album to a file.

Now I'm looking for a way to scrape the missing year data from the web
somewhere by supplying an artist-album tuple. For example, I send
artist=Beckalbum=Sea+Change to TBD website/whatever, and I parse the
year data from the result and write the tag accordingly.

Has anyone done this or have advice on where to look for these data?
I'm looking for something that would return structured data in an
as-simple-as-possible format for parsing.

cheers,
#!/ben

btw-- would be happy to share what I've got so far, but figure I'll
wait until I add the scraping code.


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Re: [slim] Can't connect to OSX Leopard slimserver

2007-10-29 Thread sugarmonster

So when I got in tonight I found a network cable for the mini, wired it
into the LAN and turned off the Airport.

The SB2 immediately found the server and started talking. I didn't need
to play with the firewall, enable sharing or anything else, it just
worked when I went wired.

It's interesting that the SB2 is still wireless, I only had to wire the
Mini into the LAN in order to get things working.

I don't pretend to know what happened at a hardware level to cause that
sort of bizarre behaviour but the lesson is go wired to get the SB
talking!

I also read the other posts re: problems running on system start so I
re-installed slimserver into the user, rather than the system and set
it to auto start when I log in. Since the mini is set to auto-login
anyway that has the same effect.

Wired is a pain for me, aesthetically, but it's doable so I can live
with it.

Now it's time to install Mono and get Inguz working - that'll be
interesting :-)

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Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers

2007-10-29 Thread amcluesent

3. Which Music Manager is best for ease of use, MediaMonkey, Sveta
from dbPowerAmp. etc?

IMHO (of course) OrangeCD. It understands how to scan FLAC and mp3 and
can, with it's plug-in, also send music to be played on your SB3. 

I don't really want to rip to FLAC and MP3 and maintain two copies.

I haven't yet found any another way that works long term. It's quick
enough with foobar2000 to encode with LAME V0 vbr. Perhaps someone will
write an Windows installable filesystem that accesses a physical disk
and automagically offers all lossless files as lossy, encoded as you
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Re: [slim] Can't connect to OSX Leopard slimserver

2007-10-29 Thread sugarmonster

Yes that's right, the Mini and the SB2 were both connecting to the
access point, and the SB2 was also operating as a wireless bridge (to
an Xbox) for good measure! Then the mini would have been streaming the
data wirelessly to the SB2.

Sounds odd but it does work - I did it with a Vista laptop while I was
trialling Inguz. Granted I was at the very edge of what wireless could
achieve but it did work surprisingly well. 

Still, at least it's working now that's the main thing!


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Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers

2007-10-29 Thread radish

J River Media Center is a pretty decent library manager, and has a FLAC
plugin. As for portables, I use one of the many flac2mp3 scripts
floating around to keep the mp3 tree in sync.


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Re: [slim] Can't connect to OSX Leopard slimserver

2007-10-29 Thread Eric Seaberg

So you were trying to have the MINI connect to your network wirelessly
and ALSO have the SB2 connect wirelessly?  The MINI was connecting to
your access point, yes?  

I wouldn't even attempt that due to the amount of traffic put on the
network!  I really think you'll prefer the way it works by having the
MINI wired to your LAN, then the SB2 can access wirelessly.


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Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers

2007-10-29 Thread sugarmonster

If you're a windows user have a look at Anapod from
www.redchairsoftware.com.

It's not a music manager, more of an alterntive way of copying music to
the iPod. I have FLACs organised in a folder structure
(genre/artist/album) so I don't really need the library stuff. Anapod
lets you drag/drop from windows to the iPod and transcode FLACs to
WAV/MP3 on the fly with tags intact.

It's a *very* slow process to transcode several thousand flacs if you
want the whole library on the iPod but that'll be the same with
anything and you only need to do it the once!

But... I've recently become a dbPowerAmp convert for ripping and they
have a companion product for iPod copying. It's not yet compatable with
the latest dbPowerAmp but I'm keeping an eye on it because it might make
things a bit more integrated.

IMHO the Touch is exceptionally cute but mostly wasted effort. Nicely
implemented though the browser is, I don't really need a portable wifi
device; I can't see a use for it in my environment. One of the HTC
smartphones makes much more sense to me. Plus the wheel on the classics
is just hard to beat for usability in terms of a) scrolling through a
huge music list and b) a volume control. 

Having said that once you pick a touch up you really won't want to put
it down again :-)

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[slim] Slimserver on Thecus 5200BR

2007-10-29 Thread Johnny Stork
Is there a wiki, docs or any other info on installing and configuring 
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Re: [slim] help with script to scrape album year data

2007-10-29 Thread bklaas

fantastico, radish! That looks like it might just work.

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Re: [slim] help with script to scrape album year data

2007-10-29 Thread radish

Discogs.com?  They have a fairly google like search engine and the DB is
pretty damn extensive. In fact, the biggest problem you're likely to run
into is narrowing results down - even a pretty specific query like
this:

http://www.discogs.com/search?type=allq=change+or+die+artist%3Asunscreem+country%3AUK+format%3Acd

gives 3 results. I guess you'd have to come up with something to pull
each result and take a best guess of the correct year.


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Re: [slim] At the risk of chawing off Slim Devices...

2007-10-29 Thread cepstein

JimC;235431 Wrote: 
 Chumby may not have the required Java or CODEC support -- not really
 sure on that one.
The Chumby can definitely play the /stream.mp3 URL and runs Flash
apps, so in theory the SlimFX skin might work when combined with
running btplay (the app on the Chumby that plays MP3 streams) in the
background.

I'd love to see an all-in-one Flash solution!


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Re: [slim] help with script to scrape album year data

2007-10-29 Thread bklaas

Discogs has an API. Doesn't look too bad.

http://www.discogs.com/help/api


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Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers

2007-10-29 Thread JJZolx

 1. Should I get a new iPod? If so which one, Touch, Classic?

For all of my needs I'm staying with solid-state players, despite their
obvious storage limitations.  I like the durability, the size  weight,
and have no need to carry around 500 hours of audio.  The new Touch,
however, is overpriced and the 3rd generation Nano has very odd
dimensions to accomodate its (worthless) video screen.  Consider
picking up a now discontinued 2nd generation 8GB Nano for cheap.

 3. Which Music Manager is best for ease of use, MediaMonkey, Sveta
 from dbPowerAmp. etc?

I'll second the recommendation for Anapod Explorer.  Not a manager,
just a way to load MP3's onto your iPod without having to resort to the
godawful iTunes.

 I don't really want to rip to FLAC and MP3 and maintain two copies.

Rip and encode in FLAC, but maintain a mirror MP3 library.  This is by
far the most convenient approach, at the cost of not a lot of hard disk
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Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers

2007-10-29 Thread Josh Coalson
also, there are portables that support flac out of the box:
http://flac.sourceforge.net/links.html#hardware
(scroll down to portables)

the iaudio and trekstor are pretty popular.

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Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers

2007-10-29 Thread cepstein

JJZolx;238771 Wrote: 
 Find (or write) a script that transcodes from Flac to Mp3 and keeps the
 library updated.  I schedule mine to run nightly and any updates to my
 Flac library are automatically reflected in the Mp3 library.
I've written many (http://etree-scripts.sf.net/), but that doesn't make
the job any faster, use any less disk space, or make tag changes
propagate automagically.

All in all, I find transcoding to be an unacceptable solution.  This is
one of the main reasons I have a Squeezebox in the first place, why I
loved my Rio Karma for its oh-so-brief lifetime, and why I own a Cowon
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Re: [slim] help with script to scrape album year data

2007-10-29 Thread vrobin

bklaas;238755 Wrote: 
 Digging my old CDs out for this would take WAY more time then just
 manually searching google for album release year. CDDB is not a good
 solution here, esp. because I don't have DiscIDs saved into the tags
 either. I started ripping music well before I understood why verbose
 tag metadata was a good idea. I'm trying to come up with a solution
 that doesn't involve the physical media.
 
 I will give Musicbrainz a shot, though my prior experience with that
 service has not been good.
 
 cheers,
 #!/ben

You can fuzz search cddb or musicbrainz with the media files, even if
the result are less exact than with the real disc/discid.

I think I remember musicbrainz and discogs information about release
date are not that bad, they may even include some original release
date. If your albums are not too rare you could look at wikipedia.

But if I were you, I would a bot to query google with an algorithm like
this:


Code:


  search google with full album name
  do: fetch Nth result page
  in the Nth page look for  patterns near the album name
  collect all  you found in the page
  while at least XX  date fields are collected
  
  For each collected list of  analyze statistically (if a date is present 
95% of time keep it silently, 75% keep it with a Notice, 50% with a warning)
  



This algorithm can be fooled by re-release date, but if you select a
good pattern detection you can get good results...


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Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers

2007-10-29 Thread JJZolx

cepstein;238768 Wrote: 
 Transcoding is convenient?  I find it to be a major pain.

Find (or write) a script that transcodes from Flac to Mp3 and keeps the
library updated.  I schedule mine to run nightly and any updates to my
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Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers

2007-10-29 Thread cepstein

JJZolx;238743 Wrote: 
 Rip and encode in FLAC, but maintain a mirror MP3 library.  This is by
 far the most convenient approach, at the cost of not a lot of hard disk
 space.

Transcoding is convenient?  I find it to be a major pain.

I loved my Rio Karma
(http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=261)
for the week or so that it actually worked.  That was the best portable
player going (at least in theory) with a large-ish hard drive, and
gapless FLAC playback.  If only they could have made it a little more
durable.

Maybe a portable player than can run Rockbox would be a good solution?


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Re: [slim] help with script to scrape album year data

2007-10-29 Thread bklaas

Benway;238717 Wrote: 
 CPAN has lots of modules for querying FreeDB.
 
 The problem you'll find is that they tend to need the DiscID or
 the cdrom available as /dev/cdrom etc...
 
 Searching through CPAN modules with freedb id3 finds
 WebService::FreeDB which looks like it
 will do the trick.
 
 However accuracy may be a problem when multiple records are found.

Digging my old CDs out for this would take WAY more time then just
manually searching google for album release year. CDDB is not a good
solution here, esp. because I don't have DiscIDs saved into the tags
either. I started ripping music well before I understood why verbose
tag metadata was a good idea. I'm trying to come up with a solution
that doesn't involve the physical media.

I will give Musicbrainz a shot, though my prior experience with that
service has not been good.

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Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers

2007-10-29 Thread JJZolx

cepstein;238778 Wrote: 
 I've written many (http://etree-scripts.sf.net/), but that doesn't make
 the job any faster, use any less disk space, or make tag changes
 propagate automagically.
I think the inital run on my system with 1600 album took about three
days.  Once done it won't likely need to be done again.

Once the initial library is built, the script will only be adding new
content and updating changes.  If you have a really busy day and have
ripped 20 new albums the script might run for a few minutes.  While
you're sleeping.

Tag changes can easily be automagically propogated by comparing file
timestamps.  I have my script give the resulting Mp3 files the exact
same timestamp as the orginating Flac file.

As for disk space, my Flac library uses about 550 GB, while the Mp3
mirror is 94GB.  I find that perfectly acceptable.  One fifth of a $150
500GB drive costs me about $30.

 This is one of the main reasons I have a Squeezebox in the first place,
 why I loved my Rio Karma for its oh-so-brief lifetime, and why I own a
 Cowon A2.

Playing Flac files on disk-based portables lessens playback time on a
battery charge considerably.  On solid-state players it's generally not
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Re: [slim] Can't connect to OSX Leopard slimserver

2007-10-29 Thread sugarmonster

A bonus, as I just found out, is that the SB wakes the mini up from
sleep when it needs to play something. How cool is that? I love this
thing :-)


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Re: [slim] Slimserver on Thecus 5200BR

2007-10-29 Thread DVB

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Re: [slim] Can't connect to OSX Leopard slimserver

2007-10-29 Thread elvinjr

sugarmonster;238741 Wrote: 
 Yes that's right, the Mini and the SB2 were both connecting to the
 access point, and the SB2 was also operating as a wireless bridge (to
 an Xbox) for good measure! Then the mini would have been streaming the
 data wirelessly to the SB2.
 
 Sounds odd but it does work - I did it with a Vista laptop while I was
 trialling Inguz. Granted I was at the very edge of what wireless could
 achieve but it did work surprisingly well. 
 
 Still, at least it's working now that's the main thing!

I'm doing the same with a XP laptop ans SB both running wireless with
no problems.  Just ordered a Mini and now wonder if the dual wireless
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Re: [slim] Mac Leopard Support

2007-10-29 Thread flatpackedworld

I've noticed that starting on system boot doesn't work for me with
Leopard and 6.5.4. Starts manually fine, going to try on user login to
see if that works.


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Re: [slim] help with script to scrape album year data

2007-10-29 Thread radish

Thinking about it, Amazon Web Services might work well too - I know a
lot of apps use it for getting cover art, you can give it some pretty
vague queries and it will do it's best to match. The advantage that
would have would be that parsing neat XML is typically easier than
scraping HTML, in my experience.

http://www.amazon.com/E-Commerce-Service-AWS-home-page/b/ref=sc_fe_l_2/105-5797087-3222059?ie=UTF8node=12738641no=342430011me=A36L942TSJ2AJA


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Re: [slim] Music playing at work options?

2007-10-29 Thread Gibbo

Do I really have no options?


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Re: [slim] Music playing at work options?

2007-10-29 Thread Pat Farrell
Gibbo wrote:
 Do I really have no options?

The Wiki has a fair amount of discussions of how to use SSH to tunnel
from an office to your home SlimServer. Once that works, you can use any
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Re: [slim] Music playing at work options?

2007-10-29 Thread iPhone

Just for starter you could buy two 40 gig iPods or one 80 gig. All
kidding aside, what kind of WAN/LAN is available?

Are you running an SB at home yet?


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Re: [slim] Mac Leopard Support

2007-10-29 Thread mario21

My squeezebox, with Leopard, is not able to find the Slimserver even If
I try to start manually in the preference system. I did everything, no
response...


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Re: [slim] Music playing at work options?

2007-10-29 Thread JJZolx

Gibbo;238791 Wrote: 
 Do I really have no options?

It's a little unclear what you're trying to accomplish.  Using an
iPod/portable player is infinitely simpler than using a Squeezebox. 
Just not as flexible.

Here are a couple of Squeezebox options:

1. Run SlimServer on a PC in the office.  Store your music on a hard
disk in (or attached to) the PC.  Stream music to a Squeezebox.

With just one shared PC in the office, that could be tough.  The
individual logons might not pose a problem if you can install the
server as an Administrator on the PC and run SlimServer as a service
when the machine boots up.  A more likely problem would be that
SlimServer would use up valuable resources on the PC and interfere with
users' work, or (even more likely) that work would interfere with
SlimServer and cause music interruptions.

A personal laptop, if permitted on your office network, would be
another option.  So would building an inexpensive dedicated
SlimServer.

2. Set up a Squeezebox and connect to your home SlimServer.  Will
require a fair amount of bandwidth, so you'll need reasonably fast
connections at both home and work.  This isn't an option in many
offices, as network activity is often closely monitored and a constant
stream of bandwidth being used will raise red flags and may even get
you fired.

May take some technical prowess in figuring out how to allow traffic
into your home network and through any firewalls that may be in place.

3. Set up a Squeezebox and use SqueezeNetwork to listen to only
Internet radio.  Same bandwidth issues and cautions as above, but you
won't need to worry about the home SlimServer end of things.  And no
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Re: [slim] Mac Leopard Support

2007-10-29 Thread mario21

I tried with version 7 alpha. No response...


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Re: [slim] SB3 showing the wrong time

2007-10-29 Thread Gumboe

So to sum up what all the posts on this forum hint at, there appears to
be a problem in the way that slimserver (running on a Qnap TS209)
stores the timezone.

There are workarounds available, however the good that these do is
rubbed out when upgrading.

From what I've read so far, this appears to have been a problem since
2006 and still isn't fixed. 

I suppose I have 3 questions:

1) Is the problem with slimserver or with the Qnap firmware?

2) Why is this still a problem for so many people?

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Re: [slim] Can't connect to OSX Leopard slimserver

2007-10-29 Thread sugarmonster

Try it and let us know. Looking around these forums it seems that
there's any number of working (or not) configurations so just because
it didn't work for me doesn't mean you'll have the same issues.


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Re: [slim] SB3 showing the wrong time

2007-10-29 Thread Gumboe

So the problem lies with the Qnap OS, does anyone know if they are
addressing this issue?

Thanks for the quick reply Andy


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Re: [slim] SB3 showing the wrong time

2007-10-29 Thread andyg

Time and timezone comes from the OS, not SlimServer.


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Re: [slim] SB3 showing the wrong time

2007-10-29 Thread radish

Gumboe;238810 Wrote: 
 
 1) Is the problem with slimserver or with the Qnap firmware?
 
From reading the threads linked above, it looks like a problem withe
the start script used by Qnap to launch slimserver.

 
 2) Why is this still a problem for so many people?
 
Because no-ones fixed it yet :)

 
 3) Who is responsible for fixing this?

As that script is supplied by Qnap (as far as I can tell) they'd have
to be the ones to fix it.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox stopping

2007-10-29 Thread Empgamer

I find I'm getting the same problem at times but I need to check it's
nothing up with the ripped tracks.  I fairly certain now it isn't. 
Only noticed it on one SB3 at the moment.

It's wirless running from a QNAP TS109 Pro on a Netgear DG834PN. 
Signal strength never lowe than 60%.

Symptoms are that a track will be playing then sound simply stops
coming from speakers.  Track progress bar continues to move and the
'Now Playing' screen saver with the twin VU bars continues to show as
if playing.  Often I find that either increasing the volume (and no
these are not quiet sections of tracks), re-strating the track or
skipping to the next seems to kick it back into life.


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Re: [slim] Looking for SqueezeBox display

2007-10-29 Thread Jami

Thanks for the information.  I had tried contacting support a few times,
but it was during the whole Logitech switch, so it must have been lost.

I received several messages from people with the old text screens and I
was able to get one and get it up and working again.  I forgot how much
I missed it!  Thanks go out to wolo for the help; it is great to have
such a helpful community!


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio failure to parse error

2007-10-29 Thread rfreedman

I had pretty much given up on getting internet radio streams to work
with slimserver - but here it is, a year later, and after the last
update - to version 6.5.5, it is magically working again.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox and Local Radio?

2007-10-29 Thread iPhone

Hello HAL,

Before I start do you know how the script writes came up with the
acronym for HAL9000? I am betting you already know since that is the
handle you use, IBM minus one letter each.

Have you tried Radio Time inside of Squeezebox Network? It is free all
one has to do is sign up. Put in ones zip code or country and then pick
your radio stations that have audio streams to Squeezebox.

I have not played with the alarm setting selections on the SB yet (I
wake by whatever song the server selects at random) so I do not know is
if one can select a station in the Radio Time Favorites to wake by. If
nothing else, one could wake by a song in their music collection then
grab the remote and click on Sqeezenetwork, Internet Radio, My Local
Stations (Radio Time) and then pick a station.

Hope that helps some. Somebody with more alarm experience might be able
to bridge my gaps.


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Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers

2007-10-29 Thread bephillips

I just got an iPod video 80GB (previous 5th generation) for my portable
solution. I am using the Rebel Forces firmware Rockbox. It does flac,
and frees your iPod from the Apple's Evil Empire (alas, this is what
they've become.)

http://www.rockbox.org/

Issues:

No Rockbox yet on the latest generation of iPod/Phone/Touch, and
unlikely anytime soon due to good encryption on the new Apple firmware.
This is why I bought a used iPod Video, the largest HD based player that
runs Rockbox. Some refurb units are currently still available from
apple.com. Used on craigslist or ebay.

Battery life is less both due to flacs needing to access the HD more,
and that Rockbox isn't (yet) as efficient as the apple firmware, but
improvements in this may be expected. On older platforms Rockbox does
better on battery life than the native firmwares. I use mine most in
the car or in the hotel room while traveling, I'm not much for walking
around with headphones on. Could be an issue on a long airplane flight.


Video is not as good on Rockbox as with the native apple firmware, but
Rockbox allows dual booting, so one could watch video with the native
firmware. I don't like to watch video on tiny screens, so not an issue
for me.

Not all iPod accessories that interface with the ipod beyond power and
line out (remotes and such) work with Rockbox.

Simple folder-bassed organization, keeps its own database, provides for
recording. Nice skins. Free, open source and customizable. Other
advantages. I'm loving it so far.

I have a very large collection, and didn't want to maintain an mp3
mirror, and I didn't want to spend the time converting files. This
seems to be the best solution for me. I'm still hoping for flac support
to come from Apple at some future time.


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Re: [slim] Mac Leopard Support

2007-10-29 Thread muski

mario21 --

I wonder if it is the Leopard fireall.  How do you have your Leopard
firewall set up?

See part 3 of my post in another Leopard thread:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39749page=2

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Re: [slim] Squeeze is in baby

2007-10-29 Thread iPhone

Seems that the band Squeeze would be the logical choice. Logitech is big
enough to be a sponsor of the reunion tour.

Squeeze the Logical Choice
Sponsored by Logitech and their Squeezebox products

I am no ad man but somebody that is should be able to do something with
all the paradigms and synergy in these names.


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Re: [slim] Can't connect to OSX Leopard slimserver

2007-10-29 Thread muski

I run Slimserver on a MacBook Pro and have wireless connectivity for my
SB3s  Transporters -- ie. everything is wireless (running through an
AirPort Extreme now, previously an Airport Express).  I upgraded to
Leopard this weekend and got both Slimserver  Inguz working fine.

A couple of random ideas:
1)  When you were running wireless, were you sure of the IP address of
the Mac mini running slimserver (you can see it at the bottom of the
Server Settings).  I only suggest this because if your Airport is also
new, I seem to remember that it defaults to a 10.0.1.xxx subnet.

2) When you were running wireless, could you see the web interface from
another computer?

3) Under Leopard, the Firewall settings have been (annoyingly) moved
under the Security tab (and, worse, the firewall is turned off by
default!).  First, stop Slimserver from its preferences pane.  Then in
the Security-Firewall settings, choose Set access for specific
services and applications.  Then go an start Slimserver again.  Right
afterwards, you'll get a popup access if you would like to allow
incoming connections to mysqld (hit always allow), and then the same
for perl (mine came up twice).  Again hit always allow.  Seems like
the old Windows Zone Alaram model, but I don't like it all.  Just seems
really lame and less secure than the old way of just opening up a
couple of ports under 10.4. (BTW, I also select the Enable Stealth
Mode under the Advanced settings of the firewall.)   It will be
interesting to see what the review say about the Leopard Firewall
settings...

Disclaimer: I only just started playing with the firewall settings on
Leopard -- so play modify yours at your own risk...

I was able to get Inguz working.  Seems like the instructions I posted
still work under Leopard.

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