Re: [Elecraft] Standard paddle settings
Why is that the 'only' correct way? I would have thought the correct way, if not using a bug, is what feels most natural to the user? Is there something about using a thumb for dots that makes it feel more comfortable? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. On 20 Aug 2009, at 05:58, Ralph Parker wrote: Indeed, there is only one correct way - the dots are always on the thumb, regardless of which hand is used __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Standard paddle settings
At 03:12 AM 08/20/09, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Why is that the 'only' correct way? I would have thought the correct way, if not using a bug, is what feels most natural to the user? Aw, now you did it.next thing you know we'll start discussing the correct way to tie shoe laces, or play geetar. The real question might bewhich foot is correct to use when sending cw ? Tradition says the left(QLF), but it may be reversed in the southern hemisphere. 73 Thom __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Correct Way
And they said? At 03:12 AM 08/20/09, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Why is that the 'only' correct way? I would have thought the correct way, if not using a bug, is what feels most natural to the user? Aw, now you did it.next thing you know we'll start discussing the correct way to tie shoe laces, or play geetar. The real question might bewhich foot is correct to use when sending cw ? Tradition says the left(QLF), but it may be reversed in the southern hemisphere. 73 Thom Now, the correct way to tie your shoe laces is right over left and then under and through, make a loop with your right hand and place the left over the top and make a loop and pull through...don't get your fingers caught though...:-) Back to the radio installation.:-) Gary Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 thought
That would be nice indeed. Vy 73 OZ1CCM Kjeld -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: 19. august 2009 23:18 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 thought Just to extend the idea a little more - Monitor the transceiver output with an additional option for monitoring the amplifier output also. It is then easy to see amplifier linearity using a trapezoid waveform. Andy VK4KY * Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: I like this too. Might be a nice P3 option. Stay tuned. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Andy wrote: Yes - I was thinking of this too. It would certainly be a great option. Andy VK4KY ** Bob W9RFS wrote: Being able to use the P3 as a station monitor durring TX would be great! Could it be possible to see the RF envelope; modulation; RF compression/clipping? Could be a very nice tool. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] New K3 NR algorithms
I have used the new NR release for a few days now, and see some plus and minus with the changes.. at least as I use the K3 for CW which is the main mode here. I usually listen at 50 or 100Hz, so the background noise is already much reduced compared to wider bandwidths. To find someone calling me off frequency I depend on CW Skimmer to show that to me, and then RIT tune them in. The new NR algorithms now act well in noise reduction. The noise is really reduced better. I also like that the SSB NR has lost the echoes and works better. What I miss is that old NR effect of emphasizing weak signals on CW by making them louder and sort of popping them up out of the noise. I used to depend on that to help in QRP contests. Time will tell if losing that for the sake of lower overall noise is a good tradeoff. I also see little difference now between the F1 through F4 settings. They all sound pretty much the same to me. I think I would like to see more difference in effects. Wayne/WA9VEE -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-K3-NR-algorithms-tp3477665p3477665.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] elecraft
Elecraft K3 I thought this reflector was about Elecraft products not general chat about morse keys or any other subject.My in box gets clogged up with irrelevant messages most of which are deleted. Peter G3UCA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Standard paddle settings
David and All, I'm not convinced there is a right way to do it. Somehow, the ergonomics may be better using the standard approach, but I'm not sure I can really detect any benefit either way. I'm a leftie, but I've always just accepted the right hand version of bugs and keyer paddles. I suppose if I hadn't used a bug before using a paddle, I might have tried it the other way. My old bug was a right handed version, so when I moved to keyers, I just kept the same convention. If there is an advantage one way vs. another (maybe the thumb doesn't have quite the same degree of dexterity as the first finger), I would think it would be more important with a bug than with a paddle. I've spent my whole life making concessions to right handed stuff--I even play golf right handed. Any inclination I might have had to shoot a rifle left handed was immediately squashed in the army. You don't want to fire an M-1 left handed, unless you like having hot shell casings eject right into your face! Making that concessions with bugs and paddles, however, was no big deal in my view. Unless you want to carry your own paddle around all the time, I would suggest learning the conventional way. Not all of your friends' rigs will necessarily have a menu feature allowing you to switch the paddle. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Standard paddle settings Why is that the 'only' correct way? I would have thought the correct way, if not using a bug, is what feels most natural to the user? Is there something about using a thumb for dots that makes it feel more comfortable? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. On 20 Aug 2009, at 05:58, Ralph Parker wrote: Indeed, there is only one correct way - the dots are always on the thumb, regardless of which hand is used __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] elecraft
Good words Uwe DK4WW - Ursprüngliche Nachricht - Von: Peter Sinclair g3...@blueyonder.co.uk Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2009 10:30 An: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Betreff: [Elecraft] elecraft Elecraft K3 I thought this reflector was about Elecraft products not general chat about morse keys or any other subject.My in box gets clogged up with irrelevant messages most of which are deleted. Peter G3UCA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 NR algorithms
Seems to me that both the previous stuff and the new stuff has its merits. I find that I use the new ones more than I did the old ones... But it seems that with as many selections as we have (and many of them seem very similar) why not have one or two of the numbers implement the previous algorithms. ~Brett On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 03:25 -0500, WA9VEE wrote: I have used the new NR release for a few days now, and see some plus and minus with the changes.. at least as I use the K3 for CW which is the main mode here. I usually listen at 50 or 100Hz, so the background noise is already much reduced compared to wider bandwidths. To find someone calling me off frequency I depend on CW Skimmer to show that to me, and then RIT tune them in. The new NR algorithms now act well in noise reduction. The noise is really reduced better. I also like that the SSB NR has lost the echoes and works better. What I miss is that old NR effect of emphasizing weak signals on CW by making them louder and sort of popping them up out of the noise. I used to depend on that to help in QRP contests. Time will tell if losing that for the sake of lower overall noise is a good tradeoff. I also see little difference now between the F1 through F4 settings. They all sound pretty much the same to me. I think I would like to see more difference in effects. Wayne/WA9VEE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Standard paddle settings
Thanks, yes, I am planning on learning the conventional way, but most likley with my left hand, I'm a southpaw too :-) -- I am told I talk in shorthand and then smudge it. - J.R.R. Tolkien (1892 - 1973) On 20 Aug 2009, at 09:12, David Y. wrote: David and All, I'm not convinced there is a right way to do it. Somehow, the ergonomics may be better using the standard approach, but I'm not sure I can really detect any benefit either way. I'm a leftie, but I've always just accepted the right hand version of bugs and keyer paddles. I suppose if I hadn't used a bug before using a paddle, I might have tried it the other way. My old bug was a right handed version, so when I moved to keyers, I just kept the same convention. If there is an advantage one way vs. another (maybe the thumb doesn't have quite the same degree of dexterity as the first finger), I would think it would be more important with a bug than with a paddle. I've spent my whole life making concessions to right handed stuff--I even play golf right handed. Any inclination I might have had to shoot a rifle left handed was immediately squashed in the army. You don't want to fire an M-1 left handed, unless you like having hot shell casings eject right into your face! Making that concessions with bugs and paddles, however, was no big deal in my view. Unless you want to carry your own paddle around all the time, I would suggest learning the conventional way. Not all of your friends' rigs will necessarily have a menu feature allowing you to switch the paddle. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Standard paddle settings Why is that the 'only' correct way? I would have thought the correct way, if not using a bug, is what feels most natural to the user? Is there something about using a thumb for dots that makes it feel more comfortable? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. On 20 Aug 2009, at 05:58, Ralph Parker wrote: Indeed, there is only one correct way - the dots are always on the thumb, regardless of which hand is used __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] elecraft
I think you will find Eric and Wayne encourage discussions related to amateur radio, not just related to Elecraft products. And Eric steps in when he thinks the thread has gone on long enough. Since I have a HexKey (#375) and that's what I'm figuring on using, it might be claimed that this thread is on-topic. -- 73 de M0XDF On 20 Aug 2009, at 09:46, Uwe wrote: Good words Uwe DK4WW I thought this reflector was about Elecraft products not general chat about morse keys or any other subject.My in box gets clogged up with irrelevant messages most of which are deleted. Peter G3UCA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Config: ADC REF (revisited
Well use your DMM and measure the resistance of your power cord. Then look at the current consumption of the K3. Then multiply these values together. Good ole ohms law (v=i*r). If you end up getting about .16V then there is your drop... ~Brett On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 22:38 -0700, Robin Diane Goldstein wrote: wondering what this means: with the latest beta firmware i measured the voltage across ACC pin 2 and ground and got 4.95v on my dmm... i then set that number into the Config:ADC REF setting. my K3 now shows the supply voltage as being 13.6 volts, but when i measure the supply at the output of my PS it shows 13.76... the cable is only about 12 inches, so that seems like a pretty steep drop. am i missing something? (probably something about ohms law and a missing decimal point?) cheers! robin (K9RDG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] OT: RoHS Solder/ Was: A Quick Question About Solder
I work as a design engineer in the medical electronics industry and am well aware of both the domestic and international requirements as well as the implications of removing the lead from solder. My chief concern is with tin whiskering. Eventually small strands of tin hair grow amongst component pins, causing short circuits, which lead to circuit malfunctions. Eventually, your radio becomes an expensive paperweight. No, conformally coating the boards does not stop the problem. I know that all the Japanese radios are intended for the world market and must be manufactured for the lowest common denominator, RoHS compliance. Since I rarely purchase new HF radios (my last was in 1982), I wanted this one to last me for a while. This became even more important when I considered the fact that I was spending about $3000 for a radio. Elecraft's assurance that the radio was built on a leaded soldering process was a major factor in deciding to purchase the K3. Unfortunately, with the push to become RoHS compliant, the component manufacturers have virtually stopped making leaded components. This means that we can still see internal failures of the components, and is well beyond even Elecraft's control. This also means that some customers (military and aerospace) who think they are immune to the effects of RoHS will have some major difficulties ahead. As a side note, solder is not the only thing effected by RoHS. RoHS covers the entire product, including the metallic chassis parts and the plastics that are so common in electronics devices. Many plastics use lead as a stabilizer and can no longer be used. RoHS also prohibits the use of other heavy metals, such as cadmium, which is used as a plating on metal parts. Bromine, a fire retardant in many plastics used in semiconductor casings and circuit boards, has also been eleminated. It is my belief that the days of picking up a usable 20 year old radio at a hamfest will soon be over. Paul Alexander wb9ipa __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 wish lists
I like this. But if it's done don't display the same information on the P3 and the monitor. The Icom 7700 does this and it appears repetitive to display the same thing twice. 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Clint Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:58 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 wish lists How about a port for an external monitor? Clint KI6SSN __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4349 (20090819) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Problem with K3 Beep Tones
I have band memories set up for each band 1.8 thru 50 on key pads 1 thru 0. Further I have discrete in band frequencies/ modes in M1 thru M4. A recently noticed issue has been that sometimes the double beep stops working when I press MVFO and 1 thru zero ( to call up a band) and then MV MM1 to M4 to call up an in band frequency and all I get is the first beep tone. The way round it is that I have to play one of the M1 to M4 voice memories after which the two beep functionality returns except for keypad 2 which never has a second beep (and it has no beep at all ever if I press it to activate the REV function). The double beep failure always occurs after I use one of the M1 to M4 cw memories but also some other apparently random times as well. The only way to then restore it to the double beep is to use one of the M1 to M4 voice memories. Has anyone else noticed this problem and is there a cure ? Barry Simpson VK2BJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 Display
(Snip) I like this. But if it's done don't display the same information on the P3 and the monitor. The Icom 7700 does this and it appears repetitive to display the same thing twice. 73 Jeff kb2m (End snip) Jeff, I would use the display feature purely as a means to be able to leave my glasses off. Perhaps the P3 could be programmable to enable selected views to be displayed on either screen and this would benefit all? I have no idea how difficult this would be to do but I hope Elecraft consider the possibility of doing this. The P3 screen size would not be large enough to enable me to see everything clearly without my glasses unfortunately...:-) Gary. VK4WT/P Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Hi RF protection mod
Guys, Was trying to figure out whether this is necessary. (not a big deal but extracting the K3 from the bunch of connection is a pain) It appears to me that this mod may be needed if one has two radios and an A/B switch which has insufficient port to port isolation. Some hand calcs (assuming an A/B switch with 40db isolation) A radio running 100 w B radio attached to the other port Hand calcs indicate 780 mv possible at the input terminals of B. S9+60db is 50 mv. It seems like 780mv is high enough to require this protection mod. (when the K3 is transmitting the B radio would also need protection.) It is not clear at all how the A/B switch isolation is measured and whether it is db power or db voltage. Yes, some A/B switches ground the unused ports. Is that included in the isolation figure quoted? Does anybody have some quantitative data? 73 de Brian/K3KO No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.62/2315 - Release Date: 08/20/09 06:05:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What should I be hearing when I use the K3 Noise Filter?
Hi, I believe you are referring to the Noise Reduction NR filter. I am afraid that you have discovered that if this emperor has any clothes at all, they are pretty skimpy. I have never seen a proper problem statement as to what type of noise this filter is supposed to remove or reduce. Atmospheric noise is pretty close to white gaussian random noise which cannot be removed by any means. The effect of the NR filter is largely to provide a more pleasing psycho-acoustic experience (maybe). This would explain the widely different experiences people are having with this filter. My wish is for Elecraft to stop using limited resources on this function. There are still serious problems with maintaining power control on SSB. I am still experiencing and seeing reports on the reflector that after certain actions (band change, power change) power output is low and will only very slowly grow to the demanded level unless you perform some other action such as transmitting a single CW dit or a short squirt of RTTY power (which is what I do). This is a real problem requring a solution. AB2TC - Knut Robin Diane Goldstein wrote: hi all... elecraft/k3 newbie here (new owner of gently-cared-for #2102)... have read everything i can find, but can't dig up an answer, so this is my first post to the list: i've downloaded the latest beta firmware and have read all the posts reciting joy and jubilation (my words) in connection with the operation of the Noise Filter... but i think i'm missing something... i work almost exclusively SSB and find that i'm listening to stations buried in the QRN... i -thought- this was where the Noise Filter was suppose to help, but when i turn on the NF and adjust it from 1-1 to 4-4 i seem to hear a somewhat filtered/somewhat distorted version of the input signal. snip -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-should-I-be-hearing-when-I-use-the-K3-Noise-Filter-tp3476780p3478756.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones
Erik, You might want to look into one of the amplified headsets or earbuds. The amplifier is usually in a plastic 'bump' on the cord, but it may do the job for you. 73, Don W3FPR Erik N Basilier wrote: My question is: Is there a headset that is physically similar to the very light Sony headset but with better sensitivity? Or, is there a brand of sensitive earbuds with a smaller diameter or a soft body? I don't want an out board amp. 73, Erik K7TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What should I be hearing when I use the K3 Noise Filter?
Hi Robin The last firmware NR was a bit on the to aggressive side making everything sound like it was coming through a pipe or hollow sounding I found my self not using it often to fatiguing over time to listen to. This revised NR is a bit on the other side of the spectrum while the finish product is not hollow sounding it does not offer a lot of reduction. Could be the code writers are range finding shooting long then short to zero in nirvana as a cw first operator who is not afraid to go very narrow on the filters I do not find myself using the NR a lot the suttle influence is closer to my liking then the to agressive aproach. So might it be nice to have both in the next release the 1-4 2-4 could be like but with a bit of tweaking for more Reduction of Noise but not to much and then the 3-4 4-4 come back in from the other side of to much NR where it was hollow through a pipe response Robin Diane Goldstein wrote: hi all... elecraft/k3 newbie here (new owner of gently-cared-for #2102)... have read everything i can find, but can't dig up an answer, so this is my first post to the list: i've downloaded the latest beta firmware and have read all the posts reciting joy and jubilation (my words) in connection with the operation of the Noise Filter... but i think i'm missing something... i work almost exclusively SSB and find that i'm listening to stations buried in the QRN... i -thought- this was where the Noise Filter was suppose to help, but when i turn on the NF and adjust it from 1-1 to 4-4 i seem to hear a somewhat filtered/somewhat distorted version of the input signal. i understand that the filter works automagically, but as i go from X-1 to X-4 it sounds like some kind of notch filter is being applied in increasing amounts, but not in a meaningful/useful way... then it goes from X-4 to Y-1 and the narrowing 'hiss' starts all over again, this time with a slightly harmonic distortion. on very strong signals i can sometimes find a setting (usually 3-2 or 3-3) that sharpens up the audio just a bit, but those signals usually are loud enough to blast through the noise anyway... what i'm looking for is help with the S2-S3 stuff. any advice or perhaps a pointer to an audio/video file showing the filter in (proper) operation? btw, the NB seems to work just fine as does the notch filter. many thanks and 73! robin (K9RDG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones
I use Klipsch Image X10 headphones with my KX-1they are absolutely the best headphones I have ever used. http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-overview/ They are not cheap, but you can find them for less than retail at most higher end audio stores. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Erik N Basilierebasil...@cox.net wrote: Every time I go out with the KX1, I get annoyed with how my Optimus earbuds hurt my ears and one falls out repeatedly. I know that Koss earbuds have been recommended on the list before, but I assume they too are too large for my ears. The Optimus ones are 0.65 or 16.4 mm in diameter. I do have a pair of Sony MDR-W14 that came with an armband gym type radio. They are connected with an adjustable springy strap over the top of the head (I have seen them worn in other ways too). They are comfortable although the parts at the ears are the same size as the earbuds. They just don't need to be retained by the ears; the flexible strap keeps them from falling off. The problem is that these are less sensitive than the earbuds, and the KX1 doesn't have gain to spare. My question is: Is there a headset that is physically similar to the very light Sony headset but with better sensitivity? Or, is there a brand of sensitive earbuds with a smaller diameter or a soft body? I don't want an out board amp. 73, Erik K7TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What should I be hearing when I use the K3 Noise Filter?
PS. The noise blanker (NB) on the other hand is fabulous on impulse noise. I sometimes have very serious power line noise and most of the time the NB totally obliterates it. In all cases it seriously reduces it. AB2TC - Knut ab2tc wrote: Hi, I believe you are referring to the Noise Reduction NR filter.snip -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-should-I-be-hearing-when-I-use-the-K3-Noise-Filter-tp3476780p3478854.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Display
I would like to see it configurable both ways. All of the display , or just say the pan adapter. Or also possibly use the extra real estate to display additional information, like a data display, for PSK31. 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of rfenab...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:07 AM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Display (Snip) I like this. But if it's done don't display the same information on the P3 and the monitor. The Icom 7700 does this and it appears repetitive to display the same thing twice. 73 Jeff kb2m (End snip) Jeff, I would use the display feature purely as a means to be able to leave my glasses off. Perhaps the P3 could be programmable to enable selected views to be displayed on either screen and this would benefit all? I have no idea how difficult this would be to do but I hope Elecraft consider the possibility of doing this. The P3 screen size would not be large enough to enable me to see everything clearly without my glasses unfortunately...:-) Gary. VK4WT/P Sent via BlackBerryR from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What should I be hearing when I use the K3 Noise Filter?
Hi Robin Firmware 3.25 S/N 3142 Born on Date 6/13/09 The last firmware NR was a bit on the to aggressive side making everything sound like it was coming through a pipe or hollow sounding. I found my self not using it often to fatiguing over time to listen to, especially on SSB. This revised NR is a bit on the other side of the spectrum while the finish product is not hollow sounding or through a pipe sounding it does not offer a lot of reduction. I tried dual dsp years ago on my ft1000d using two dsp units in stereo to really kill the band noise it works ok the JPS NIR 12 uses this approach I believe. This could also be done with a out board unit in a speaker I put the board from a AM Com ClearSpeech dsp in my Yaesu station speaker I like it a lot but have not tried that speaker yet on the K3 yet. I almost want to say there has been a tweak of the audio response also sounding a bit more full less intense with a hiss on the high end, which I pulled down using the RX EQ, am I imagining this or is this a real tweak? I like the SSB audio response (with no DSP NR influence) better now. I really need to have two K3's side by side to test or A/B the firmware release to be absolutely sure, I do keep notes on the first impression after an up date, better sounding is noted. Could be the code writers are range finding shooting long then short to zero in nirvana? As a cw first operator who is not afraid to go very narrow on the filters I did not find myself using the NR a lot the subtle influence is closer to my liking then the to aggressive approach. The Hi Q ringing of the audio filters of the past is something I never liked or could operate using. My ft1000d with a 500 pitch tweak the radio narrow shift /width narrow 250 Collins filter get it the best that can be then toss in the APF which did not add ringing was all good, it just made the signal louder. So might it be nice to have both in the next release the 1-4 2-4 could be like but with a bit of tweaking for more Reduction of Noise but not to much and then the 3-4 4-4 come back in from the other side of to much NR where it was hollow through a pipe response. Coming in from both sides a bit at a time might satisfy every one. Sorry for the first post I hit send before spell check and completing my thoughts on this matter. Regards Art ka9zap PS Hopping for a Audio Peak Filter APF like my ft1000d has. Robin Diane Goldstein wrote: hi all... elecraft/k3 newbie here (new owner of gently-cared-for #2102)... have read everything i can find, but can't dig up an answer, so this is my first post to the list: i've downloaded the latest beta firmware and have read all the posts reciting joy and jubilation (my words) in connection with the operation of the Noise Filter... but i think i'm missing something... i work almost exclusively SSB and find that i'm listening to stations buried in the QRN... i -thought- this was where the Noise Filter was suppose to help, but when i turn on the NF and adjust it from 1-1 to 4-4 i seem to hear a somewhat filtered/somewhat distorted version of the input signal. i understand that the filter works automagically, but as i go from X-1 to X-4 it sounds like some kind of notch filter is being applied in increasing amounts, but not in a meaningful/useful way... then it goes from X-4 to Y-1 and the narrowing 'hiss' starts all over again, this time with a slightly harmonic distortion. on very strong signals i can sometimes find a setting (usually 3-2 or 3-3) that sharpens up the audio just a bit, but those signals usually are loud enough to blast through the noise anyway... what i'm looking for is help with the S2-S3 stuff. any advice or perhaps a pointer to an audio/video file showing the filter in (proper) operation? btw, the NB seems to work just fine as does the notch filter. many thanks and 73! robin (K9RDG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX1 headphones
Every time I go out with the KX1, I get annoyed with how my Optimus earbuds hurt my ears and one falls out repeatedly. I know that Koss earbuds have been recommended on the list before, but I assume they too are too large for my ears. The Optimus ones are 0.65 or 16.4 mm in diameter. I do have a pair very light Sony headset but with better sensitivity? Or, is there a brand of sensitive earbuds with a smaller diameter or a soft body? I don't want an I may have what you need. These are Ultimate Ears, model Super.fi 3, and have small loop of wire which is actually the cable which go from the plug around the top of the ear and then join in the front. The part around the ear is stiffened. (Hope you can picture that.) Almost any high quality earbuds will come with several sizes of earplugs for them. This came with a set of four rubber-type and one set of foam. I prefer the foam. As 'faddish' as the name sounds, these people make very, very high end products (earbuds) for the recording industry. This model is sold by Radio Shack and is a bit less expensive (maybe because they are red and commissioned by RS?) than the regular Super.fi 3 models, but with identical specifications. The best part is they are extremely efficient, 13 ohms at 1kHz, so work very well with my K3. Now I must say I bought them because their response is virtually flat and I wanted them for classical music - no bass boost and all that stuff. You will _not_ need an amp with these. Also, I just ordered from a second company on Ultimate Ears' website, several sets of foam earplugs for them. They are unique in that they have a coating which helps them stay in the ears and the foam blocks outside sounds more. This company makes earplugs for the whole earbud industry, so you might find replacements in different sizes for your present earbuds. The company is Hearing Components and has online ordering: http://www.hearingcomponents.com 73 ...Edwin, KD5ZLB Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return.-da Vinci http://bellsouthpwp2.net/e/d/edwinljohnson __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] W2 kit manual?
At great risk of being a pain in the patootie - will the W2 kit manual be posted for download soon? I have found that downloading the manual and reading it before a kit arrives reduces the risk of my hurrying through assembly and the mistakes that are made when I do. I'm sure nobody else has this problem. :wistle: -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/W2-kit-manual-tp3479407p3479407.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Amperage Measurement
On the K3, the VFO B knob may be used to select voltage, amps, time, etc. To determine what the power draw is for portable operations, I connected a multimeter in series with the supply and measured amps at various stages, hence idle (receive), key down for 5 watts, 10 watts, etc. At idle my K3 draws about .92-.94 amps, verified by two different multimeters. However the reading on the front panel when selected with the VFO B knob, shows .71 amps. So, I am wondering just what it is measuring for the .71 amps and is there a method for calibration if it is supposed to be measuring the total power draw from the power supply. This is not that important to me, but was rather curious about this. 73 ...Edwin, KD5ZLB Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return.-da Vinci http://bellsouthpwp2.net/e/d/edwinljohnson __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 thought
Yes. I could retire my good old Kenwood SM-220 monitor scope then. Philip Andy wrote: Just to extend the idea a little more - Monitor the transceiver output with an additional option for monitoring the amplifier output also. It is then easy to see amplifier linearity using a trapezoid waveform. Andy VK4KY * Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: I like this too. Might be a nice P3 option. Stay tuned. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Andy wrote: Yes - I was thinking of this too. It would certainly be a great option. Andy VK4KY ** Bob W9RFS wrote: Being able to use the P3 as a station monitor durring TX would be great! Could it be possible to see the RF envelope; modulation; RF compression/clipping? Could be a very nice tool. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Standard paddle settings
I've been operating left-handed with dots on the fore-finger since the early 60's when my dad built a tube based Heathkit keyer. I can comfortably send 25 WPM without even thinking about what my fingers are doing. I'm sure there's a point to encouraging newbies to learn the right way. But in the long run I don't see how it makes any difference for an amateur operator. I've actually never thought about trying to send with my right hand. This seems like an idea with real merit. Not having to drop the pencil to send and being able to make notes with my hand on the key... I'll have to try this. I have no trouble with the frets on a guitar with my right hand. So any of you here my call on 20 sending at 8 WPM it will be me sending with my right hand! (Hmmm. Wonder if I can bowl with my right hand) 73, Doug -- K0DXV David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Why is that the 'only' correct way? I would have thought the correct way, if not using a bug, is what feels most natural to the user? Is there something about using a thumb for dots that makes it feel more comfortable? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: RoHS Solder/ Was: A Quick Question About Solder
How old are you going to be in 20 years? Plus, remember the internet is killing ham radio and there will only be two dozen hams left then anyway, and half of them will be like me with no place to put up an antenna. Thanks for the fear-mongering though. It's not like I don't get enough of that. On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, paul alexander wrote: I work as a design engineer in the medical electronics industry and am well aware of both the domestic and international requirements as well as the implications of removing the lead from solder. My chief concern is with tin whiskering. Eventually small strands of tin hair grow amongst component pins, causing short circuits, which lead to circuit malfunctions. Eventually, your radio becomes an expensive paperweight. No, conformally coating the boards does not stop the problem. I know that all the Japanese radios are intended for the world market and must be manufactured for the lowest common denominator, RoHS compliance. Since I rarely purchase new HF radios (my last was in 1982), I wanted this one to last me for a while. This became even more important when I considered the fact that I was spending about $3000 for a radio. Elecraft's assurance that the radio was built on a leaded soldering process was a major factor in deciding to purchase the K3. Unfortunately, with the push to become RoHS compliant, the component manufacturers have virtually stopped making leaded components. This means that we can still see internal failures of the components, and is well beyond even Elecraft's control. This also means that some customers (military and aerospace) who think they are immune to the effects of RoHS will have some major difficulties ahead. As a side note, solder is not the only thing effected by RoHS. RoHS covers the entire product, including the metallic chassis parts and the plastics that are so common in electronics devices. Many plastics use lead as a stabilizer and can no longer be used. RoHS also prohibits the use of other heavy metals, such as cadmium, which is used as a plating on metal parts. Bromine, a fire retardant in many plastics used in semiconductor casings and circuit boards, has also been eleminated. It is my belief that the days of picking up a usable 20 year old radio at a hamfest will soon be over. Paul Alexander wb9ipa __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - ht...@twofifty.com BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones
Another high end option you might want to look into is one of the Etymotic Research models. http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er4.aspx I have a pair of ER4S's that I have used for years with iPods for air travel. It does wonders to passively attenuate crying babies, etc., and the frequency response is outstanding. A lot of audiophiles like these earbuds. While I haven't built my KX1 yet (just purchased it at the Santa Barbara ARRL gathering last weekend from the Elecraft table), I plan on using these with my KX1 once I have completed building it. I think the ER4P's might be the way to go if purchasing specifically for the KX1, since it has a 10 db gain over the regular ER4S's. You can click on the link on the right that says Which ER4 is Right for You? to read more about the differences. I see the company now has various active noise canceling earbuds as well now, so that may be another option to look into. I have no affiliation with Etymotic Research other than being a very satisfied customer. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3 feature: PSK31
I have to say the idea of working Data modes via a KB and the P3 is growing on me. As is sending CW, not for me, but there are ops out there with disabilities that mean the only way to send is via a k/b with very lite touch keys. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- A child, like your stomach, doesn't need all you can afford to give it. -Frank A. Clark, writer (1911- ) On 20 Aug 2009, at 16:18, Doug Person wrote: Lot's of great ideas on the P3 feature list. My personal preference would be a plugin keyboard and the ability to operate PSK31 (and possibly other modes) using the K3/P3. I hate turning a computer on next to my gear and the monitor takes up a lot of room. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones
On Aug 20, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Brian Murrey wrote: I use Klipsch Image X10 headphones with my KX-1they are absolutely the best headphones I have ever used. http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-overview/ They are not cheap, but you can find them for less than retail at most higher end audio stores. Not only not cheap, they cost more than the KX-1!! 73, Rick DettingerK7MW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones
Yup. Makes me glad mine were a gift...but BOY do they sound great. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Rick Dettingerk7m...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 20, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Brian Murrey wrote: I use Klipsch Image X10 headphones with my KX-1they are absolutely the best headphones I have ever used. http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-overview/ They are not cheap, but you can find them for less than retail at most higher end audio stores. Not only not cheap, they cost more than the KX-1!! 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 connector
There is a modular connector on the bottom near the front right corner, what's if for? Butch K0BS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 connector
Elecraft's use in testing and service - not usable by 'end user' although in the early days there were mutterings on it's use for attachments. I'd consider it not to be there until/if something eventually comes along - the P3 will not be using this as far as I know. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -Arthur C Clarke, science fiction writer (1917-2008) On 20 Aug 2009, at 17:36, Butch Schartau wrote: There is a modular connector on the bottom near the front right corner, what's if for? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 connector
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:36:50 -0500, Butch Schartau k0bsbu...@gmail.com wrote: There is a modular connector on the bottom near the front right corner, what's if for? Butch K0BS [snip] Factory testing Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Display
On my wishlist would be for an option to KEEP the fonts nice and small as they are now. This would allow for a high resolution get more info on the P3 screen mode... For those of us who still have acute vision I much prefer to use very high resolution screens and take advantage of the performance that display brings. ~Brett -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of rfenab...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:07 AM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Display (Snip) I like this. But if it's done don't display the same information on the P3 and the monitor. The Icom 7700 does this and it appears repetitive to display the same thing twice. 73 Jeff kb2m (End snip) Jeff, I would use the display feature purely as a means to be able to leave my glasses off. Perhaps the P3 could be programmable to enable selected views to be displayed on either screen and this would benefit all? I have no idea how difficult this would be to do but I hope Elecraft consider the possibility of doing this. The P3 screen size would not be large enough to enable me to see everything clearly without my glasses unfortunately...:-) Gary. VK4WT/P Sent via BlackBerryR from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones
The Etymotic's are actually a really good price point for the quality. You're not paying for a name like Klipsch who is literally just implementing technology that Etymotic sells to them. Ety doesn't make active noise cancelling products for audio heard. Technically their not really doing active noise cancelling for their headsets either they are doing it all mostly by virtue of using directional mics rather than omni mics and with implementation of wind screens. The ER6's also make a decent pair as well and are much cheaper. Don't go by the prices on etymotic's website as they are MSRP only and much better pricing can be had. Also keep in mind that you need to keep your ears clean and there are filters that require replacement every so often. I find that once or twice a year is about all that is really needed. I personally own ER4P's as I use them with a portable player and low power output stages and appreciate the efficiency. But I also have noticed that they sound much better when driven with a headphone amplifier that I've built on a bread board. The breadboard amp is fairly complex but has a much richer sound than that of my mp3 player direct. I've verified this double blind with a good number of people and many agreed that it is an improvement (although minor). One thing that I find helps with prolonged use is that I went to my local audiologist who had to test my hearing just by virtue of my being there. She looked at my results and thought I was nuts for even coming in to be tested. Then I explained... Westone makes molds for the ER4's that work a trick. You have to go to a Dr (or you technically can do this yourself) but you need to have proper molds taken of your ears. You then send this off to Westone and they send back molds (in one of several materials) I find the otoblast to be one of the best. These molds are the equivalent of custom hearing aids (Westone actually specializes in hearing aids) and they can be worn all day long with no fatigue and hold quite well just by virtue of how well they fit and seal. ~Brett -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Anthony Hardwick Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:46 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones Another high end option you might want to look into is one of the Etymotic Research models. http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er4.aspx I have a pair of ER4S's that I have used for years with iPods for air travel. It does wonders to passively attenuate crying babies, etc., and the frequency response is outstanding. A lot of audiophiles like these earbuds. While I haven't built my KX1 yet (just purchased it at the Santa Barbara ARRL gathering last weekend from the Elecraft table), I plan on using these with my KX1 once I have completed building it. I think the ER4P's might be the way to go if purchasing specifically for the KX1, since it has a 10 db gain over the regular ER4S's. You can click on the link on the right that says Which ER4 is Right for You? to read more about the differences. I see the company now has various active noise canceling earbuds as well now, so that may be another option to look into. I have no affiliation with Etymotic Research other than being a very satisfied customer. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 connector
That is the test port which allows for working with the software and what not... There has been talk of Elecraft designing some sort of keyboard that may be able to be plugged in there but at the moment that has yet to materialize. So for now just consider it a test port for the software design engineers. ~Brett (KC7OTG) -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Butch Schartau Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:37 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 connector There is a modular connector on the bottom near the front right corner, what's if for? Butch K0BS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 connector
The P3 has a similar connector, but it is internal to the cabinet. It is for programming the boot loader and initial firmware at the factory. Alan N1AL On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:45 +0100, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Elecraft's use in testing and service - not usable by 'end user' although in the early days there were mutterings on it's use for attachments. I'd consider it not to be there until/if something eventually comes along - the P3 will not be using this as far as I know. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] What should I be hearing when I use the K3
As a CW operator, I can state very matter of fact, the old NR was exactly what I needed to operate code at my QTH, AND the biggest reason that I chose to buy the K3 over another larger radio. Unlike others that don't seem to think the NR ever did anything, I can emphatically tell you that with the NR on (perhaps 2-3) I was previously able to take an S7 noise floor on 30meters down to what would appear to sound like an S1. All while still hearing the CW, both weak and strong as clear as day. For those that say they don't need the NR because they use very narrow filters. I can say this. When I have my filter narrowed down to 150Hz or lower, when I turn on the NR (in pre v3.25, or now at setting 4-4) it STILL has a big impact at removing any extra noise that was being amplified by the narrowness of the filter. Furthermore, when working with the IIR filter on at 50Hz, I found that when turning on the NR (pre v3.25, or now at setting 4-4) that any ringing sounds from excessive band noise are completely removed. Perhaps I have a more noisy area than others on this reflector, but I can honestly say that I was perfectly content with the old NR for CW, and enjoy the new NR settings for SSB. Perhaps a combination of the two NR algorithms is what we need. Maybe X-1 and X-2 can be the old settings, and X-3 and X-4 the new? OR better yet, one set of algorithms for SSB and the older one for CW. Surely 1-1 was light enough filtering for those that didn't like so much gating and signal loss. As with Art, If I can't have the aggressive Noise Reduction back, than perhaps some kind of APF (audio peak filter) would be nice as well. Perhaps then I would be able to hear the weak CW sigs through the loud noise floor. N6MQL _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Standard paddle settings
- Original Message - From: Ralph Parker ve...@dccnet.com Indeed, there is only one correct way - the dots are always on the thumb, regardless of which hand is used. I assume this applies also to left-handed bugs, although I've never seen one. (Otherwise, how would you know that it was left-handed?) Anytime I need to log with the right hand or make notes.. I reach the paddles from the *rear* of the Bug or single lever key with my left hand. Been doing it 48 years and never a problem. My Forearm lies along the side of the bug instead of in front when using the left hand. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight.
Guy, help me out here. Is there voice software available or in the works? Forwarded for friend. 73, de Jim KG0KP - Original Message - From: w0pc To: kg...@arrl.net ; jimmil...@stl-online.net Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: K3 Voice Software? Jim, Have you tried the new voice software for your K3? Last Sunday at the hamfest, we tested a fellow who is loosing his eyesight. He has a K3 and is sorry that it doesn't have a voice synthesizer option. A friend of mine up in Mich. has a K3 and said there is a new software package from Elecraft that reads out frequency and mode and more. I'm trying to help out our new Extra class ham, Tom Jokerst, KD0EIL get something working for his K3. 73 de w0pc (Rick) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Channel Changing
Gary, The point you are making has been mentioned in the past. It is not a channel selection as mentioned by Brett, but you are referring to the possibility to operate the K3 in either a VFO or Memory mode. This can be done in other radios. The K3 is always in the VFO mode and by a number of keystrokes we can put the VFO in a starting point. When a radio has a memory mode, you can program the memories in a random order, to your liking, and select them by pushing the Up/Down buttons or e.g. the VFO B knob. Subsequently the VFO A knob works as required. Gary, I believe that this is what you, I, and others want. Therefore our question to Elecraft if this change can be made in a subsequent firmware, or is it hardware limited 73, Fred PA3HGF Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Channel Changing I wonder if there is (or will be in the future) a way to store frequencies (on all bands) into memory and then be able to go to VM mode and use either the VFO A or B to rotate through all o the memories? I have owned a few radios that had this feature and it would be handy for my operating conditions. I have used the M1-M4 and the Band switching via the keypad, but find this cumbersome and time consuming as well as restrictive. If this has been addressed previously then apology is given but I don't have time to read all the traffic on the reflector. 73's Gary. VK4WT/P From: Brett Howard br...@livecomputers.com This capability is already in place. You need to proceed the name of the memory with a * and they need to be in sequential memory locations in order to pull it off but once you recall one you can then tune through the memories with the VFO A knob. This is especially handy for the channelized US 60Meter band. Read about Channel Hopping on page 40 of the current K3 owner's manual which can be found here: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Owner%27s_Man_Rev_D4_WEB.pdf ~Brett __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight.
Look at K3 Voice here: http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm Not difficult to find at all ... 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Miller KG0KP Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:44 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight. Guy, help me out here. Is there voice software available or in the works? Forwarded for friend. 73, de Jim KG0KP - Original Message - From: w0pc To: kg...@arrl.net ; jimmil...@stl-online.net Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: K3 Voice Software? Jim, Have you tried the new voice software for your K3? Last Sunday at the hamfest, we tested a fellow who is loosing his eyesight. He has a K3 and is sorry that it doesn't have a voice synthesizer option. A friend of mine up in Mich. has a K3 and said there is a new software package from Elecraft that reads out frequency and mode and more. I'm trying to help out our new Extra class ham, Tom Jokerst, KD0EIL get something working for his K3. 73 de w0pc (Rick) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones
Erik N Basilier wrote: Every time I go out with the KX1, I get annoyed with how my Optimus + earbuds hurt my ears and one falls out repeatedly. I know that Koss I have a problem with Walkman type buds falling out, but that is the shape of my earlobes, which don't have grooves in the right place to grip them. + earbuds have been recommended on the list before, but I assume they too + are too large for my ears. The Optimus ones are 0.65 or 16.4 mm in 16mm buds are Walkman style and therefore no longer fashionable. The current fashion is i-Pod, which do fit in the ear canal and generally have soft foam. I think most of the recommendations you have had are for i-Pod in the ear style. However, the ultimate is to have custom earmoulds made. These are typically used with expensive ear-buds, but it is possible to have them made with cheap Walkman drivers and, in the UK at least, one can even get adaptors to use generic 16mm drivers, rather than having them cast into the mould. A hearing aid centre may be able to do the whole job, as prime contractor, otherwise you go to a hearing aid centre to have castings made of your ears, then send them off to a specialist in custom ear mould headphones. (The hearing aid centre will normally also send off the casting to have the final moulds made.) (I have had poor hearing since childhood and had moulds made for both ears then. I was changed to one aid, on my worst ear, but stopped wearing that quite soon. I've recently realised that was a mistake and now have a modern aid for that ear, with a different style of mould, but the old moulds fit well enough to retain themselves, and I tried using an inductive coupler for the aid ear, and a generic earbud adapter for the other ear. The custom ear moulds used by hi-fi enthusiasts will be recent castings, and therefore produce a sound tight seal.) -- David Woolley we do not overly restrict the subject matter on the list, and we encourage postings on a wide range of amateur radio related topics List Guidelines http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Channel Hopping
Fred Channel hopping as done by Kenwood, Yaesu and Icom is what I really want with the ability to use the VFO B as a memory/channel change knob and VFO A as it normally is used. I do not know if there is a specific limitation of the K3 or whether it is just a case of being too far down someone's list that we are not there yet. I suspect this list is quite long still as some of the advertised features from the K3 release sheet are still not available and many owners have been very patient to date but I wonder how long they might continue waiting before giving up? I know asynchronous AM is one such item I believe is yet to be done, although I don't need that myself. For now I will just wait and hope Elecraft publish a list of what is coming...maybe within at least a 12 month time period without giving away state secrets as I am sure K/Y/I know what the K3 lacks in relation to their products. It will be interesting to see if we get any feedback from Elecraft on real Channel Hopping as I don't recall any response in the past and web browsing is cumbersome for me without a PC...:-) 73's Gary. VK4WT/P Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones
Yes I was referring to something very similar to this... If you end up ever owning a pair of Etymotic ER-4's then you can get Westone to make you a set of these to give you a custom fit: http://www.westone.com/content/194.html Also note that if you to go style No. 7 you can get a custom fit for the standard ear buds. You simply slide the mold over the bud and then the rest of it is the custom fit mold for your canal. ~Brett (KC7OTG) -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Woolley (E.L) Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:15 PM To: Erik N Basilier Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones Erik N Basilier wrote: Every time I go out with the KX1, I get annoyed with how my Optimus + earbuds hurt my ears and one falls out repeatedly. I know that Koss I have a problem with Walkman type buds falling out, but that is the shape of my earlobes, which don't have grooves in the right place to grip them. + earbuds have been recommended on the list before, but I assume they too + are too large for my ears. The Optimus ones are 0.65 or 16.4 mm in 16mm buds are Walkman style and therefore no longer fashionable. The current fashion is i-Pod, which do fit in the ear canal and generally have soft foam. I think most of the recommendations you have had are for i-Pod in the ear style. However, the ultimate is to have custom earmoulds made. These are typically used with expensive ear-buds, but it is possible to have them made with cheap Walkman drivers and, in the UK at least, one can even get adaptors to use generic 16mm drivers, rather than having them cast into the mould. A hearing aid centre may be able to do the whole job, as prime contractor, otherwise you go to a hearing aid centre to have castings made of your ears, then send them off to a specialist in custom ear mould headphones. (The hearing aid centre will normally also send off the casting to have the final moulds made.) (I have had poor hearing since childhood and had moulds made for both ears then. I was changed to one aid, on my worst ear, but stopped wearing that quite soon. I've recently realised that was a mistake and now have a modern aid for that ear, with a different style of mould, but the old moulds fit well enough to retain themselves, and I tried using an inductive coupler for the aid ear, and a generic earbud adapter for the other ear. The custom ear moulds used by hi-fi enthusiasts will be recent castings, and therefore produce a sound tight seal.) -- David Woolley we do not overly restrict the subject matter on the list, and we encourage postings on a wide range of amateur radio related topics List Guidelines http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Channel Hopping
rfenab...@gmail.com wrote: Fred Channel hopping as done by Kenwood, Yaesu and Icom is what I really want with the ability to use the VFO B as a memory/channel change knob and VFO A as it normally is used. That would be a very interesting option ;-) It also would be very nice (although maybe it already is possible to do this) to be able to download memories (alpha titles plus frequencies and mode settings) via a computer file or via the Elecraft Utility. I am looking ahead to the next F2 cycle on 6m, when it will be helpful to have dozens (actually over a hundred) different memories stored to be able to watch for propagation indicators below 50 MHz. VY 73, Lance -- Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex: WN3GPL, WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX) P.O. Box 73 Frenchtown, MT 59834 USA QTH: DN27UB TEL: (406) 626-5728 URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj 2m DXCC #11/6m DXCC #815 Interested in 6m EME? Ask me about subscribing to the MAGIC BAND EME email reflector! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 NR algorithms
I finally got a chance to load up the new FW and try the new NR. Like everyone else, I didn't notice much if any difference between F1-1 and F4-4 while turning the knob. However, I found that there WAS a difference if I dialed in a new setting, then turned NR off and back on. In other words (in CW mode): 1) set NR to F1-1. 2) turn NR off, then back on. Notice the sound. 3) set NR to F4-4 4) turn NR off, then back on. Notice the sound. When I do that, F4-4 is clearly more aggressive than F1-1. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:25 AM, WA9VEE wrote: ... I also see little difference now between the F1 through F4 settings. They all sound pretty much the same to me. I think I would like to see more difference in effects. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight.
I'm currently working on K3 Voice support to speak configuration menu selections. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:34 PM To: 'Jim Miller KG0KP'; 'Elecraft Reflector' Cc: kg...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight. Look at K3 Voice here: http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm Not difficult to find at all ... 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Miller KG0KP Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:44 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight. Guy, help me out here. Is there voice software available or in the works? Forwarded for friend. 73, de Jim KG0KP - Original Message - From: w0pc To: kg...@arrl.net ; jimmil...@stl-online.net Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: K3 Voice Software? Jim, Have you tried the new voice software for your K3? Last Sunday at the hamfest, we tested a fellow who is loosing his eyesight. He has a K3 and is sorry that it doesn't have a voice synthesizer option. A friend of mine up in Mich. has a K3 and said there is a new software package from Elecraft that reads out frequency and mode and more. I'm trying to help out our new Extra class ham, Tom Jokerst, KD0EIL get something working for his K3. 73 de w0pc (Rick) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] elecraft
David is correct. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft list moderator David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: I think you will find Eric and Wayne encourage discussions related to amateur radio, not just related to Elecraft products. And Eric steps in when he thinks the thread has gone on long enough. Since I have a HexKey (#375) and that's what I'm figuring on using, it might be claimed that this thread is on-topic. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 NR algorithms
Joe, same here! Big difference in changing settings from F1-1 to F4-4 in one continuous motion vs. your method with an exit NR and turn it back on. Hummm? I also notice that if you use your method with a noticeable NR improvement when switched on and then go into adjust mode the effect switches back to the normal operation where the effectiveness is not as noticeable. Looks like you have to adjust, turn off NR, then turn NR back on for each setting. Maybe the guys missed some sort of reset between filter steps? Rodger Original message Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:11:42 -0700 From: Joe Planisky jp...@jeffnet.org Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K3 NR algorithms To: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net I finally got a chance to load up the new FW and try the new NR. Like everyone else, I didn't notice much if any difference between F1-1 and F4-4 while turning the knob. However, I found that there WAS a difference if I dialed in a new setting, then turned NR off and back on. In other words (in CW mode): 1) set NR to F1-1. 2) turn NR off, then back on. Notice the sound. 3) set NR to F4-4 4) turn NR off, then back on. Notice the sound. When I do that, F4-4 is clearly more aggressive than F1-1. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:25 AM, WA9VEE wrote: ... I also see little difference now between the F1 through F4 settings. They all sound pretty much the same to me. I think I would like to see more difference in effects. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight.
Wasn't there some sort of thought that the DVR could be used to do this all built into the rig a long time ago? On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:06 -0700, Dick Dievendorff wrote: I'm currently working on K3 Voice support to speak configuration menu selections. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:34 PM To: 'Jim Miller KG0KP'; 'Elecraft Reflector' Cc: kg...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight. Look at K3 Voice here: http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm Not difficult to find at all ... 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Miller KG0KP Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:44 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight. Guy, help me out here. Is there voice software available or in the works? Forwarded for friend. 73, de Jim KG0KP - Original Message - From: w0pc To: kg...@arrl.net ; jimmil...@stl-online.net Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: K3 Voice Software? Jim, Have you tried the new voice software for your K3? Last Sunday at the hamfest, we tested a fellow who is loosing his eyesight. He has a K3 and is sorry that it doesn't have a voice synthesizer option. A friend of mine up in Mich. has a K3 and said there is a new software package from Elecraft that reads out frequency and mode and more. I'm trying to help out our new Extra class ham, Tom Jokerst, KD0EIL get something working for his K3. 73 de w0pc (Rick) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight.
Thanks Dick, Just extras for some of us (now) but necessary for others. I will be playing with it when I get a chance. Thanks es 73, de Jim KG0KP - Original Message - From: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net To: li...@subich.com; 'Jim Miller KG0KP' jimmil...@stl-online.net; 'Elecraft Reflector' elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: kg...@arrl.net Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight. I'm currently working on K3 Voice support to speak configuration menu selections. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:34 PM To: 'Jim Miller KG0KP'; 'Elecraft Reflector' Cc: kg...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight. Look at K3 Voice here: http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm Not difficult to find at all ... 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Miller KG0KP Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:44 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Voice Software? Ham with K3 loosing his eyesight. Guy, help me out here. Is there voice software available or in the works? Forwarded for friend. 73, de Jim KG0KP - Original Message - From: w0pc To: kg...@arrl.net ; jimmil...@stl-online.net Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: K3 Voice Software? Jim, Have you tried the new voice software for your K3? Last Sunday at the hamfest, we tested a fellow who is loosing his eyesight. He has a K3 and is sorry that it doesn't have a voice synthesizer option. A friend of mine up in Mich. has a K3 and said there is a new software package from Elecraft that reads out frequency and mode and more. I'm trying to help out our new Extra class ham, Tom Jokerst, KD0EIL get something working for his K3. 73 de w0pc (Rick) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 fw 3.25 NR
Several posts to the list have indicated that the NR function in K3 firmware 3.25 sounds the same, regardless of which NR setting has been selected. As mentioned by another list member, firmware 3.25 has an anomaly that prevents a new NR setting from immediately taking effect. The work-around is to change the NR setting (such as from F4-1 to F4-4), then disable NR, and then re-enable NR (the new NR setting becomes active upon NR re-enable). I've found that NR is much improved in fw 3.25, and is now usable for me with relatively weak CW signals. Rich VanTieghem W2VT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 fw 3.25 NR
Several posts to the list have indicated that the NR function in K3 firmware 3.25 sounds the same, regardless of which NR setting has been selected. As mentioned by another list member, firmware 3.25 has an anomaly that prevents a new NR setting from immediately taking effect. The work-around is to change the NR setting (such as from F4-1 to F4-4), then disable NR, and then re-enable NR (the new NR setting becomes active upon NR re-enable). I've found that NR is much improved in fw 3.25, and is now usable for me with relatively weak CW signals. The reason for this is that the LMS algorithm as implemented has a slow decay of computed NR filter values. Decay is a trade off between response of the algorithm to signal that disappears. A side effect is that if you go from less aggressive F1-x to more aggressive (F4-x) settings, the filter built around the signal remain in place and slowly decays to the more aggressive setting. If you start with F4-x and go towards F1-x, you'll find the algorithm response to your changes is faster, due to the less aggressive nature of the algorithm at those settings. I'm looking into ways to get it to be more responsive as you increase aggressiveness without compromising other parameters that must be kept in balance. Thank you for your feedback on this Beta code! 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] elecraft
Hi Peter, My in box gets clogged up with irrelevant messages most of which are deleted. You can create a new folder in your email software that is separate from your inbox, and set up a filter to have all messages from the Elecraft reflector automatically moved into that folder. That way they do not clog up your inbox. I see that you are using Outlook Express - here are some instructions on how to set this up. For the case of the Elecraft list, you will want to filter on the To line instead of the From line. http://email.about.com/od/outlookexpresstips/ss/wt101603.htm Hope this helps, Brian __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 ATU tutorial help
I have just installed the ATU in my K3 and can't seem to find an explanation or tutorial on how it should be operated. I am used to the ICOM tuners and they automatically retuned and recalled settings as you changed frequencies and bands. The K3 ATU seems to recall previous settings, but only if I first manually force it to tune on a particular frequency. I must be missing something, but the manual or the K3 web site has almost no information on how the tuner is supposed to function. I have also searched the archives of this reflector, but the subject doesn't seem to be addressed anywhere. Maybe my new tuner is broke? Just how automatic is this tuner? Is there some process I have to go through to help the tuner 'learn'. I have it set up in the CONFIG menu, but it just doesn't work quite like I expected it to. Thanks, Charlie __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 ATU tutorial help
You have to manually tune it throughout the band for it to learn the settings to be recalled. You can either do this by tuning about every 20kc or you can download K3_EZ and then you can click a button and it will automatically do the tuning for you. It just tunes qsy's tunes qsy's again until its done the whole band for you... You can download K3_EZ here: http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm If you want to read more about the tuner's features you can find that in the software release notes: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/hfwnotes.rtf In that document you'll see the features of the tuner that were added in version 3.03. I highly recommend that you read through that document in its entirety as there are quite the number of features that are only documented there for the most part. Or perhaps also download the manual errata as many of the features have probably been added to that document. I've pasted the new KAT3 features below New ATU (KAT3) Features * MULTIPLE KAT3 ATU DATA SEGMENTS PER BAND/PER-ANT.: 10 kHz per segment on 160 m; 20 kHz on 80-12 m; 50 kHz on 10 m; 200 kHz on 6 m. This keeps narrowband antennas in tune across the full ham band.Note 1:You do nothave to go through each band and do ATU TUNE on every segment. The K3 will use the saved LC data segment closest to your present VFO location. Note 2: You can erase all of the stored LC data for a given band by tapping CLR in the CONFIG:KAT3 menu entry. * AUTOMATIC KAT3 LC NETWORK UPDATE ON TRANSMIT: Each time you transmit, the K3 first determines whether you’ve moved the VFO closer to another stored ATU data segment. If so, it will re-load the KAT3 with this data, and flash the “ATU” icon twice, briefly. You’ll hear one or more relays on the KAT3 change state. This will not interrupt transmit. * ATU MODE STORED PER-BAND, PER-ANTENNA: You can now set up the KAT3’s mode (AUTO, BYPASS, etc.) on a per-band/per-antenna (1/2) basis. This is very useful if you have well-matched antennas on some bands, or a dummy load connected to one of the ANT jacks. On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 00:25 -0400, Charles Johnson wrote: I have just installed the ATU in my K3 and can't seem to find an explanation or tutorial on how it should be operated. I am used to the ICOM tuners and they automatically retuned and recalled settings as you changed frequencies and bands. The K3 ATU seems to recall previous settings, but only if I first manually force it to tune on a particular frequency. I must be missing something, but the manual or the K3 web site has almost no information on how the tuner is supposed to function. I have also searched the archives of this reflector, but the subject doesn't seem to be addressed anywhere. Maybe my new tuner is broke? Just how automatic is this tuner? Is there some process I have to go through to help the tuner 'learn'. I have it set up in the CONFIG menu, but it just doesn't work quite like I expected it to. Thanks, Charlie __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones
Thanks all for the suggestions! Not having fallen yet for the fashionable pocket music players, I wasn't aware of how much money young people can spend on earbuds, nor that the in-ear style is back into fashion. OK, I have an expensive headset for phone operation, and I appreciate expensive units for music, but I can't see paying a lot for frequency response when the radio is cw only. When I looked up all the earbuds etc available from RS, the selection is quite staggering, but the spec's don't say anything about sensitivity; the fine audio brands mostly don't specify sensitivity either. I think my next step will be to visit the nearby RS where the mgr recognizes me, and then try as many models as he will let me... 73, Erik K7TV - Original Message - From: David Woolley (E.L) for...@david-woolley.me.uk To: Erik N Basilier ebasil...@cox.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones 16mm buds are Walkman style and therefore no longer fashionable. The current fashion is i-Pod, which do fit in the ear canal and generally have soft foam. I think most of the recommendations you have had are for i-Pod in the ear style. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones
If sensitivity isn't specified often impedance is and the lower the impedances usually result in higher efficiencies. ~Brett (KC7OTG) On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 22:27 -0700, Erik N Basilier wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions! Not having fallen yet for the fashionable pocket music players, I wasn't aware of how much money young people can spend on earbuds, nor that the in-ear style is back into fashion. OK, I have an expensive headset for phone operation, and I appreciate expensive units for music, but I can't see paying a lot for frequency response when the radio is cw only. When I looked up all the earbuds etc available from RS, the selection is quite staggering, but the spec's don't say anything about sensitivity; the fine audio brands mostly don't specify sensitivity either. I think my next step will be to visit the nearby RS where the mgr recognizes me, and then try as many models as he will let me... 73, Erik K7TV - Original Message - From: David Woolley (E.L) for...@david-woolley.me.uk To: Erik N Basilier ebasil...@cox.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 headphones 16mm buds are Walkman style and therefore no longer fashionable. The current fashion is i-Pod, which do fit in the ear canal and generally have soft foam. I think most of the recommendations you have had are for i-Pod in the ear style. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] OT: Paranoia Software (FUNNY)
This is a real application for blackberry smart phones... Just thought the guys here would appreciate this one! ~Brett (KC7OTG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
