[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: No man, he was grooming the boy. Speach is not protected when it is in this context. He was just dead wrong. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: This is very funny: http://www3.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=178 Uh, which Republican are you referring to? Foley? 1) He didn't molest anyone... 2) Had he had consensual physical relations with the boy in question there would have been no crime committed because the boy was over the age of consent. I am concerned with the draconian internet laws that are raking this guy over the coals. Sure, it was inappropriate speech but it was speech none-the-less and it was internet speech...and we, as regular users of the internet, should be bloody well outraged. Shempgurk...it was ... UN ...fvckin ... ETHICAL Of course it was! What's your point? You want to throw someone in jail for speech that was unethical? For sleazy speech? Think about the implications of what you're saying if you answer is yes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No man, he was grooming the boy. Grooming him for what...sex? If it WAS for sex, and the two then went on to have consensual sex, there would have been no crime because both were over the age of consent. Speach is not protected when it is in this context. Speech is most definitely protected in this context everywhere... EXCEPT the internet! Foley could have been chatting up this kid on the phone or at the local bar, got him into bed, and there would be ZERO crime committed. It's just that there are these weird laws about the internet that make what he did MAYBE a crime. Now, of course, all this doesn't address either the sleaziness of it all and the fact that there are the considerations of his role as a Representative that has its own sets of rules that he could have broken (and probably did)...but those aren't crimes but broken rules internal to the House of Representatives. Again, we ALL should be VERY concerned about the laws that curtail speech on the internet. That's really what this issue is all about. He was just dead wrong. Of COURSE he was dead wrong...but he may not have committed any crime. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: This is very funny: http://www3.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=178 Uh, which Republican are you referring to? Foley? 1) He didn't molest anyone... 2) Had he had consensual physical relations with the boy in question there would have been no crime committed because the boy was over the age of consent. I am concerned with the draconian internet laws that are raking this guy over the coals. Sure, it was inappropriate speech but it was speech none-the-less and it was internet speech...and we, as regular users of the internet, should be bloody well outraged. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Is there no one willing to defend Foley's right to free speech?
Freedom of speech includes the right to be sleazy and inappropriate. Why is there no one except myself willing to step forward and ring the bell of alarm over the eagerness of almost everyone to have Foley convicted of a crime over his free speech? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Being for gay rights means...
...that sleazebags like Foley have the right to solicit males over the age of consent for sex. Of course, Foley didn't HAVE sex with any of the males in question on these tapes. But if he did and you, the reader, are for gay rights, you are FOR Foley having sex with whomever he can convince to have consensual sex with him. Now, if he is breaking a rule of his place of work when he does that, that's another matter. So, tell me, who amongst you are FOR gay rights and support Foley's right to have consensual phone sex and consensual gay sex with the 17-year-old? Com'n my fine feathered liberal friends...who's for it? Judy? Bhairitu? Spare Egg? Barry? Your silence is deafening... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act. Just as an experiment, replace the word 'guru' in the above sentence with other words, and see how you feel about the guys in question: I see guys acting just as their Daddy has requested that they act. I see guys acting just as their Mommy has requested that they act. I see guys acting just as their gpvernment has requested that they act. I see guys acting just as their priest has requested that they act. I see guys acting just as their family has requested that they act. ...etc. If you are comfortable being one of those kinda guys, who has so little going for him that he just does what he is told without question, good for you. Some of us prefer to grow up and do what *we* want to do... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] And the Abigail Williams Award goes to...
Take a look at the this Age of Consent Table (scroll down for each of the U.S. states) and pay particular attention to the male-male and female-female columns to the right: http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm Interestingly, it is illegal in Florida to have male-male sex (I'm not sure if that's just with a minor or for anyone) which is where the emails may have originated to and from (so much for my previous claims that they could have had sex and it would NOT be a crime!)...BUT SEE HOW MANY STATES HAVE REPEALED THE MALE-MALE LAWS! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] master course on Charaka Samhita with Raj Vaidya Mishra
Some of you may be aware of the expertise of Vaidya Mishra. He comes from an unbroken family tradition stretching back 5000 years. The Puranas tell of his ancestors and their great knowledge of Ayurveda. Even today, he practices Shudh Ayurveda, a pre-Buddhist form that preserves special knowledge in many areas unknown to the other vaidyas, including a much more extensive marma therapy than commonly practiced or taught. Vaidya Mishra worked for MAPI for roughly a decade, developing some of its most popular products. He will be offering a master course on the principal textbook of Ayurveda, Charaka Samhita, being inaugurated on Dhanvatari Jayanti, October 19th, 2006. In this course, he will explore Charaka verse by verse, offering extensive commentary. If you would like to be a part of this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to learn Ayurveda as few people know it, contact Health Synergies in Indianapolis at (317) 356-2342. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip So when I found out about all this stuff about King Tony getting his weight in gold, and Rajas and gold crowns, it was really a mindboggler. I think sometimes that those who lasted long enough for that kinda stuff to have become commonplace don't understand just how weird it really is. You mean like the proverbial frogs in the vat of lukewarm water over a continual flame where you don't realize you're done until your blood is boiling and your brain is cooked? :) Heh. Some of these frogs had to pay a million dollars for the privilege of jumping in the pot in the first place. I don't think you can claim that they're being fooled on some level. Who said anything about anyone being fooled? The comments have to do with people being around long enough for that behavior to become commonplace, millionaires or not. BY the time folks were asked for the million they'd been in there a long time already. Besides--the frog thing was a tongue-in-cheek throw away line. It was *also* a completely accurate metaphor for what's happened to these silly people. If Sparaig weren't in Professional TM Apologist mode, he'd be talking about how brainwashed they are, too. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: How do you know its faux enlightenment? Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks. If there was an enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not acting like a dick? (I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the guitar playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous asses} Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act. What's pompous about that? I don't think anyone held a gun to anyone's head, to wear a crown. Perhaps they like wearing crowns. Many monarchs past and present seem to like their crowns... Besides, who cares? Look at the Catholic church, and all of their head-dress; Those Native Americans, were many pretty wild cults...? Yes? But certain European cults, who considered them inferior- Like, that cult wiped them out. Is TM wiping anyone out. Has any witch been burned at the stack, by the TMO. Has anyone been beheaded, as they do in the purest Saudi Arabian cult... The Islamic cult, think suicide is cute... As far as cults, I would think the TMO; So, if cults is your study- The TMO is certainly not the weirdest, as you say; Quite the contrary, I would think.. R.G. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: How do you know its faux enlightenment? Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks. If there was an enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not acting like a dick? (I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the guitar playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous asses} Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act. What's pompous about that? I don't think anyone held a gun to anyone's head, to wear a crown. Perhaps they like wearing crowns. It's a kind of peer-pressure gun. These are people who have decided that being close to the guru or (even sadder) being *perceived* as being close to the guru is the most important thing in their lives. This phenomenon exists in many spiritual trips. But in most of them, the guru doesn't make someone pay a million bucks for the privilege of being perceived as close to him. In the TMO, he does. And there are people who actually go for it. As a personal choice, I guess it's acceptable. But if you're suggesting that they're not *laughable* to have *made* that choice, I don't think you're going to find very many people on the planet who agree with you. The rest would consider these people fools. A question for Sparaig the Professional TM Apologist: Do you actually believe that Maharishi *respects* these people? If so, think that many here who (unlike you) have actually had some experience being around him and watching how he treats people would disagree with you. I'd be willing to bet that Maharishi considers them fools, too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY address Nov, 1960; Lakshman Joo?
(snip) (1) at the junctions of intake and offtake of respiration, (2) at the junction of the change of cognition from one object to an-other and (3) concentration on objectlessness. This is a perfectly really good description of what happens becoming familiar with the transcendent. With the practice of the siddhis... The 'simplest state of awareness'... 'The objectiveless state of awareness aware of itself'. There is no contridiction between the two teachings: Just slightly different descriptions of the transcendent... R.G. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Is Sexuality Compatible w/Spirituality and Enlightenment?'
Anyone care to share??? R.g. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Foley (war bravery)
shempmcgurk@ wrote:
snip
And as far as cowardise on the part of Bush is concerned:
Well,
going into the job, Bush knew that he:
1) had an approximately 1 out of 10 chance of being killed on
the
job (4 out of 42 presidents have been assassinated in U.S.
history);
and
2) had an approximately 1 out of 8 chance of being wounded
('cause,
like Reagan, there have been numerous unsuccessful
assassination
attempts that have wounded presidents).
Name me one war U.S. soldiers have ever been involved in
where
the
odds were worse than that. For example, 8,752,000 U.S.
military
served in Vietnam and 59,000 died. That's about a 1 out of
150
chance to be killed. And there were 211,556 wounded...about
a 1
out
of 40 chance to be wounded.
Call him whatever you want but a coward is totally
unwarranted.
My response is probably pretty predictable, but when you kill
and
maim 25,000 soldiers from the comfort of your armchair,
*that's*
cowardice, on a breathtaking scale, especially then strutting
around
an aircraft carrier deck with tennis balls in your crotch.
Sorry,
but the guy is a total coward and armchair warrior, a real wimp.
Then what does that make MacArthur who oversaw 33,000 Americans
(and
countless enemy casualities) deaths during the Korean War?
And Eisenhower during WW2 who oversaw 292,000 American deaths?
And Grant who oversaw several hundred thousand deaths during the
Civil War?
And they ALL oversaw their wars from a safe distance from the
front...
Were they all total cowards, too?
I believe that the civil war death count was 437,000. Does that mean
that Lincoln was a coward too?
When it comes to war, and sending men to their death;
This is never an easy task, and always takes it's toll.
Viet Nam, eventually killed LBJ.
Lincold died after the war, he was killed.
I don't think it's the numbers of died and wounded, although this
certainly adds karma on karma...
But it's more a quality of truth...
That is where the real bravery comes in.
Anybody can kill, given the right circumstance, at least any good
soldier...
But it takes a brave man or woman to speak the truth.
This is Lincoln's legacy;
The shear power of truth in his words, and in his vision of Unity.
Without Lincoln, and some of the other's;
There would be no United States of America...
If we hadn't invaded Iraq, on the other hand,
And if we had a follow-up plan after the fall of Baghdad;
Then perhaps Mr.Bush wouldn't appear now, as such a fool.
'A man who claims victory, prematurely, wears his crown to his
demise'.
R.G.
R.G.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/3/06 4:18 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: I never heard of the TMO being thrown out. I was in the group (everybody at International at the time) helping to prepare for the Nepal trip. Maharishi initiated thousands with an earphone system. But almost everyone stopped meditating after a few days. Nice one Rick. Its a good example of how incredible distorted stories become when someone is addicted to rumours and loves to twist the truth. So what¹s the truth? Bless us, please. Well, you where there personally so I obvously believe your version. Not Ingegerd's distortions. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Britain Most Promiscuous Country in Europe'
Sex-mad Britons 'are ignorant about risk of Aids'Last updated at 21:11pm on 3rd October 2006 Almost a quarter of Britons think Aids can be spread by kissing Headlines Britain is one of the most promiscuous nations in Europe, and one of the least aware of Aids, a survey suggests today. More than half of Britons polled did not use extra protection against HIV, and 22 per cent thought Aids could be caught by kissing. 'One in 10 men admit paying for sex' Health campaigners said the growing ignorance was a result of government failure to promote awareness and poor sex education. The Family Planning Association said: "We do not have mandatory sex and relationship education in schools and what does get taught is part of science. But it is not good enough just to talk about biology. Young people need to be taught how to negotiate using a condom." The Eurobarometer poll of 25,000 EU citizens aged over 15 also found 40 per cent of people took no precautions against Aids during sex. According to the survey carried out last year, fewer people in the 15 member states said they practised safe sex than in the previous survey in 2002. It also showed half were poorly informed about the risks of HIV and Aids, with those in the 10 newest member countries the most confused. And a quarter of Britons said they were less likely to be promiscuous, the worst record after the Netherlands. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: How do you know its faux enlightenment? Come on Spraig, cuz they act like dicks. If there was an enlightenment, don't you think that it would at least include not acting like a dick? (I know the movement line on this but I am appealing to the guitar playing Spraig who knows these guys are just pompous asses} Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act. What's pompous about that? I don't think anyone held a gun to anyone's head, to wear a crown. Perhaps they like wearing crowns. It's a kind of peer-pressure gun. These are people who have decided that being close to the guru or (even sadder) being *perceived* as being close to the guru is the most important thing in their lives. This phenomenon exists in many spiritual trips. But in most of them, the guru doesn't make someone pay a million bucks for the privilege of being perceived as close to him. In the TMO, he does. And there are people who actually go for it. As a personal choice, I guess it's acceptable. But if you're suggesting that they're not *laughable* to have *made* that choice, I don't think you're going to find very many people on the planet who agree with you. The rest would consider these people fools. A question for Sparaig the Professional TM Apologist: Do you actually believe that Maharishi *respects* these people? If so, think that many here who (unlike you) have actually had some experience being around him and watching how he treats people would disagree with you. I'd be willing to bet that Maharishi considers them fools, too. You seem to know all the details of the millionares course. You must know that the techniques they received and the new programme was not worth the money for these rich people ! Right ? Ot perhaps you are the fool. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: blast of shakti from the departing master
On Oct 4, 2006, at 12:25 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:Time to test this idea. Kill all the self-proclaimed "holy men" and let's see how we feel. Would poisoning be OK?;-) __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Posting Habits in September -- followup
EXPERIMENT: Does knowledge of one's posting habits affect those posting habits? -- RESULTS Since I said I'd post these results, here they are. The totals on the left (before the ***) are for the first half of September, and the totals (and some- times percentages) on the right are for the second half of September. Scores on the far right (past the +++ signs for the top 11 posters) show how much that person's posting rate rose or fell during this period when we were discussing how frequently some people post (and wishing some wouldn't). TOTAL POSTS 9/1-13: 1960 *** 9/14-30: 2070 +++ change -- authfriend - 263 / 13.4% *** 219 / 10.6% +++ down 2.8% sparaig - 244 / 12.4% *** 263 / 12.7% +++ up 0.3% shempmcgurk - 145 / 7.4% *** 247 / 11.9% +++ up 4.5% TurquoiseB - 136 / 6.9% *** 99 / 4.8% +++ down 2.1% Rick Archer - 110 / 5.6% *** 69 / 3.3% +++ down 2.3% new.morning - 89 / 4.5% *** 71 / 3.4% +++ down 1.1% jim_flanegin - 80 / 4.1% *** 84 / 4.0% +++ down 0.1% MDixon6569 - 78 / 4.0% *** 55 / 2.6% +++ down 1.4% curtisdeltablues - 58 / 3.0% *** 87 / 4.2% +++ up 2.2% off_world_beings - 54 / 2.8% *** 106 / 5.1% +++ up 2.3% Peter - 53 / 2.7% *** 86 / 4.2% +++ up 1.5% -- wmurphy77 - 52 *** 5 Robert Gimbel - 50 *** 54 Sal Sunshine - 47 *** 47 Paul Mason - 41 *** 3 t3rinity - 41 *** 13 nablus108 - 40 *** 18 cardemaister - 37 *** 44 Alex Stanley - 32 *** 33 bob_brigante - 30 *** 57 jyouells2000 - 30 *** 29 dhamiltony2k5 - 27 *** 18 geezerfreak - 26 *** 24 bhairitu - 22 *** 55 lurkernomore20002000 - 20 *** 16 Ingegerd - 16 *** 7 gerbal88 - 15 *** 2 hermandan0 - 9 *** 8 feste37 - 7 *** 6 gullible fool - 7 *** 6 George DeForest - 4 *** 1 Patrick Gillam - 4 *** 14 johnlasher20002000 - 4 *** 2 uns_tressor - 4 *** 5 kenwoodfx - 4 *** 0 Anna - 4 *** 2 tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis - 3 *** 4 WLeed3 - 3 *** 8 blissbunn1 - 2 *** 0 inthislifetime300 - 1 *** 0 Nelson - 1 *** 0 suziezuzie - 1 *** 4 Dharma Mitra - 1 *** 0 rasatantra - 1 *** 1 -- coldbluiceman - 0 *** 45 vajradhatu108 - 0 *** 24 larry.potter - 0 *** 21 wayback71 - 0 *** 13 Jason Spock - 0 *** 12 shukra69 - 0 *** 9 Jeffrey - 0 *** 8 Irmeli Mattsson - 0 *** 8 Richard J. Williams - 0 *** 6 ffia1120 - 0 *** 5 Dick Mays - 0 *** 4 kaladevi93 - 0 *** 3 April - 0 *** 3 Marek Reavis - 0 *** 3 Mike Hutchinson - 0 *** 2 Michael Dean Goodman - 0 *** 2 elastomeric_brotherhood - 0 *** 2 hyperbolicgeometry - 0 *** 2 quantum packet - 0 *** 2 benjaminccollins - 0 *** 1 gimari03 - 0 *** 1 soulquest7 - 0 *** 1 Christine - 0 *** 1 artkonrad - 0 *** 1 Xunknown - 0 *** 1 -- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: This is very funny: http://www3.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=178 Uh, which Republican are you referring to? Foley? 1) He didn't molest anyone... 2) Had he had consensual physical relations with the boy in question there would have been no crime committed because the boy was over the age of consent. I am concerned with the draconian internet laws that are raking this guy over the coals. Sure, it was inappropriate speech but it was speech none-the-less and it was internet speech...and we, as regular users of the internet, should be bloody well outraged. Outraged that the smug, hypocritical asshole who helped create that law is getting bitchslapped by it? You gotta be kidding! And, actually, I'm not particularly outraged by that law. It basically establishes 18 as the age of consent with respect to sexually explicit speech between individuals on the Internet. I don't find that any more draconian than a state age of consent law set at 18 or the law requiring porno actors be 18. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: It's a kind of peer-pressure gun. These are people who have decided that being close to the guru or (even sadder) being *perceived* as being close to the guru is the most important thing in their lives. This phenomenon exists in many spiritual trips. But in most of them, the guru doesn't make someone pay a million bucks for the privilege of being perceived as close to him. In the TMO, he does. And there are people who actually go for it. As a personal choice, I guess it's acceptable. But if you're suggesting that they're not *laughable* to have *made* that choice, I don't think you're going to find very many people on the planet who agree with you. The rest would consider these people fools. A question for Sparaig the Professional TM Apologist: Do you actually believe that Maharishi *respects* these people? If so, think that many here who (unlike you) have actually had some experience being around him and watching how he treats people would disagree with you. I'd be willing to bet that Maharishi considers them fools, too. You seem to know all the details of the millionares course. You must know that the techniques they received and the new programme was not worth the money for these rich people ! Right ? Not having been foolish enough to pay for such techniques, I couldn't say for sure. If I were to guess, I would imagine that the Return On Investment was similar to that of the TM Sidhis (which cost $5000 or so, depending on when/where you got them) compared to the $5 paperback copy of the Yoga Sutras they were taken from. Using the same percentage (0.001%), that makes the million dollar techniques) worth about $1000. Ot perhaps you are the fool. Very possibly. I did pay 5000 bucks for something worth 5 bucks, which definitely makes me a fool. But I learned from that experience, and stopped short of paying 1 million bucks for something worth a thousand...if it's worth that much... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: It's a kind of peer-pressure gun. These are people who have decided that being close to the guru or (even sadder) being *perceived* as being close to the guru is the most important thing in their lives. This phenomenon exists in many spiritual trips. But in most of them, the guru doesn't make someone pay a million bucks for the privilege of being perceived as close to him. In the TMO, he does. And there are people who actually go for it. As a personal choice, I guess it's acceptable. But if you're suggesting that they're not *laughable* to have *made* that choice, I don't think you're going to find very many people on the planet who agree with you. The rest would consider these people fools. A question for Sparaig the Professional TM Apologist: Do you actually believe that Maharishi *respects* these people? If so, think that many here who (unlike you) have actually had some experience being around him and watching how he treats people would disagree with you. I'd be willing to bet that Maharishi considers them fools, too. You seem to know all the details of the millionares course. You must know that the techniques they received and the new programme was not worth the money for these rich people ! Right ? Not having been foolish enough to pay for such techniques, I couldn't say for sure. If I were to guess, I would imagine that the Return On Investment was similar to that of the TM Sidhis (which cost $5000 or so, depending on when/where you got them) compared to the $5 paperback copy of the Yoga Sutras they were taken from. Using the same percentage (0.1%), that makes the million dollar techniques worth about $1000. Ot perhaps you are the fool. Very possibly. I did pay 5000 bucks for something worth 5 bucks, which definitely makes me a fool. But I learned from that experience, and stopped short of paying 1 million bucks for something worth a thousand...if it's worth that much... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is there no one willing to defend Foley's right to free speech?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freedom of speech includes the right to be sleazy and inappropriate. But not to solicit a minor, whether over the Internet or in any other manner. Why is there no one except myself willing to step forward and ring the bell of alarm over the eagerness of almost everyone to have Foley convicted of a crime over his free speech? Shemp, relax. I haven't seen anyone here endorsing the federal law--the one Foley wrote and sponsored-- that sets the age of consent for solicitation over the Internet at 18 when the age of consent for actual sexual activity is 15 or 16 in some states. And not even the FBI has yet determined whether the federal law applies in this case, or if not, which if any state laws apply. All anyone is advocating here, at any rate, is that *if* he solicited someone over the Internet who was underage for actual sexual activity in the relevant state, he committed a crime and should suffer the appropriate punishment. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: No man, he was grooming the boy. Grooming him for what...sex? If it WAS for sex, and the two then went on to have consensual sex, there would have been no crime because both were over the age of consent. In many states it would be illegal as the pedophile laws take into account not only age of consent but the age difference in the parties as well -- often if there's more than a 4 yr age difference then the age of consent is raised to 18. Apparently this is not the case in DC though. And homosexual acts are still illegal in a few of the red states that best reflect shemp's kind of mind. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Posting Habits in September -- followup
On Oct 4, 2006, at 7:28 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: EXPERIMENT: Does knowledge of one's posting habits affect those posting habits? -- RESULTS Since I said I'd post these results, here they are. The totals on the left (before the ***) are for the first half of September, and the totals (and some- times percentages) on the right are for the second half of September. Scores on the far right (past the +++ signs for the top 11 posters) show how much that person's posting rate rose or fell during this period when we were discussing how frequently some people post (and wishing some wouldn't). TOTAL POSTS 9/1-13: 1960 *** 9/14-30: 2070 +++ change -- authfriend - 263 / 13.4% *** 219 / 10.6% +++ down 2.8% sparaig - 244 / 12.4% *** 263 / 12.7% +++ up 0.3% shempmcgurk - 145 / 7.4% *** 247 / 11.9% +++ up 4.5% TurquoiseB - 136 / 6.9% *** 99 / 4.8% +++ down 2.1% Rick Archer - 110 / 5.6% *** 69 / 3.3% +++ down 2.3% new.morning - 89 / 4.5% *** 71 / 3.4% +++ down 1.1% jim_flanegin - 80 / 4.1% *** 84 / 4.0% +++ down 0.1% MDixon6569 - 78 / 4.0% *** 55 / 2.6% +++ down 1.4% curtisdeltablues - 58 / 3.0% *** 87 / 4.2% +++ up 2.2% off_world_beings - 54 / 2.8% *** 106 / 5.1% +++ up 2.3% Peter - 53 / 2.7% *** 86 / 4.2% +++ up 1.5% -- wmurphy77 - 52 *** 5 Robert Gimbel - 50 *** 54 Sal Sunshine - 47 *** 47 I'm the only one who's perfectly balanced...LOL...thanks for posting these Barry. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip Speach is not protected when it is in this context. Speech is most definitely protected in this context everywhere... EXCEPT the internet! No, it isn't. It's a crime even to *possess* child pornography, for example, whether obtained over the Internet or in some other manner. There are lots of laws that restrict free speech in other than the Internet context. Foley could have been chatting up this kid on the phone or at the local bar, got him into bed, and there would be ZERO crime committed. It's just that there are these weird laws about the internet that make what he did MAYBE a crime. That's the federal law he sponsored and helped write, which sets the age of consent for sexual Internet communications at 18. Most on the left recognize that's absurd when the age of consent for actual sexual activity is at least two years younger in most states. The folks who *support* that federal law are mostly on the right. For an example on the left, here's an excerpt from a blog post by Glenn Greenwald, a lefty lawyer: ...I will just note what seems to be the bizarre and incoherent contradiction in the law..., that in-person, actual sex between Foley and a 16-year-old page would be perfectly legal in D.C. and in most places in the U.S..., but it seems that it is a criminal act for Foley to discuss or solicit sexual acts with the same page over the Internet [this is the law that Foley wrote and sponsored--JS]. Despite all the irritatingly righteous (and overheated) pedophile language being tossed around, in the overwhelming majority of states, and in Washington DC, the legal age of consent for sex is 16 years old. That means that actual, in-person sex between Foley and a 16- year-old page in D.C. would not be criminal at all (though it likely could have other legal implications). But under the so-called Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006 (of which Foley was a co-sponsor)...discussion or solicitation of sexual acts between Foley and any minor under the age of 18 would appear to be a criminal offense (see Adam Walsh Act, Sec. 111(14) (MINOR.--The term 'minor' means an individual who has not attained the age of 18 years) http://tinyurl.com/f8uyp Note that in any case, there's no evidence that Foley was actually a *pedophile*. A pedophile is a person who is attracted exclusively to children under the age of puberty. Pedophilia is a serious, apparently incurable sexual disorder. Pedophilia is not a synonym for illegal sexual activity (including communications) with minors. It's a specific clinical diagnosis. Attraction to adolescents past the age of puberty is entirely sexually normal (and rules out pedophilia as a diagnosis). *Acting* on that attraction when the adolescent is underage is, at worst, a symptom of a psychological disorder involving terrible judgment and poor impulse control; it can usually be completely cured by psycyhotherapy. Moreover, the damage to the child victims of pedophilia is typically much more severe than the damage to the adolescent victims of sexual predators. This doesn't mean, of course, that the latter is somehow OK; the harm to underage adolescents can be pretty bad. It's just that the harm to prepubertal children is much worse. Both are illegal, and rightly so. Now, of course, all this doesn't address either the sleaziness of it all and the fact that there are the considerations of his role as a Representative that has its own sets of rules that he could have broken (and probably did)...but those aren't crimes but broken rules internal to the House of Representatives. Again, we ALL should be VERY concerned about the laws that curtail speech on the internet. I suspect all of us are, actually. That's really what this issue is all about. It's also about the irresponsibility and hypocrisy of the Republican leadership of the House--and perhaps other congressional Republicans--in not cracking down on a fellow congressman whom they knew was at least potentially a sexual predator who could be endangering the psychological welfare of underage pages. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not having been foolish enough to pay for such techniques, I couldn't say for sure. If I were to guess, I would imagine that the Return On Investment was similar to that of the TM Sidhis (which cost $5000 or so, depending on when/where you got them) compared to the $5 paperback copy of the Yoga Sutras they were taken from. Using the same percentage (0.1%), that makes the million dollar techniques worth about $1000. Ot perhaps you are the fool. Very possibly. I did pay 5000 bucks for something worth 5 bucks, which definitely makes me a fool. But I learned from that experience, and stopped short of paying 1 million bucks for something worth a thousand...if it's worth that much... Perhaps the perspective of the rajas differs from yours. How could they not see it as a donation to a cause they believe in. If you have 10 mil+ and are in your 50-60's, and perhaps have no heirs, donating portions of your estate makes sense, is a pleasure, -- and not a pinch. Those that look to spiritual things with a sherp pencil and approach it whats in it for ME? are perhaps missing something. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
On Oct 4, 2006, at 7:37 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: I am concerned with the draconian internet laws that are raking this guy over the coals. Sure, it was inappropriate speech but it was speech none-the-less and it was internet speech...and we, as regular users of the internet, should be bloody well outraged. Outraged that the smug, hypocritical asshole who helped create that law is getting bitchslapped by it? You gotta be kidding! I actually wasn't aware that he helped create the law that's now netted him, only that he was chair of the Missing Kids committee. THis just makes it too perfect. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act. Just as an experiment, replace the word 'guru' in the above sentence with other words, and see how you feel about the guys in question: I see guys acting just as their Daddy has requested that they act. I see guys acting just as their Mommy has requested that they act. I see guys acting just as their gpvernment has requested that they act. I see guys acting just as their priest has requested that they act. I see guys acting just as their family has requested that they act. ...etc. If you are comfortable being one of those kinda guys, who has so little going for him that he just does what he is told without question, good for you. Some of us prefer to grow up and do what *we* want to do... Er, without question wasn't part of either formulation. It's entirely possible to want to do something someone has requested that you do, for any number of reasons, and after extensive questioning. What Barry seems to be suggesting is that you should never want to do anything someone has requested that you do. Questioning such a request, according to Barry, should *always* result in your deciding you don't want to do whatever it is. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So, tell me, who amongst you are FOR gay rights and support Foley's right to have consensual phone sex and consensual gay sex with the 17-year-old? Com'n my fine feathered liberal friends...who's for it? Judy? Of course. Doesn't mean I *approve*, necessarily, but there are lots of things that are legal that I don't approve of, and vice versa. Bhairitu? Spare Egg? Barry? Your silence is deafening... What are you talking about?? That question didn't even come up until you asked it just now. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is there no one willing to defend Foley's right to free speech?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Freedom of speech includes the right to be sleazy and inappropriate. But not to solicit a minor, whether over the Internet or in any other manner. Why is there no one except myself willing to step forward and ring the bell of alarm over the eagerness of almost everyone to have Foley convicted of a crime over his free speech? Shemp, relax. I haven't seen anyone here endorsing the federal law--the one Foley wrote and sponsored-- that sets the age of consent for solicitation over the Internet at 18 when the age of consent for actual sexual activity is 15 or 16 in some states. A large majority of states (as well as most or all of Europe) are less than 18. Only 8 or so states have the 18 year old level. And not even the FBI has yet determined whether the federal law applies in this case, or if not, which if any state laws apply. All anyone is advocating here, at any rate, is that *if* he solicited someone over the Internet who was underage for actual sexual activity in the relevant state, he committed a crime and should suffer the appropriate punishment. Solicitation seems an odd term to hinge the law on. Is thus setting up a meeting for coffee - after a number of chats -- illegal? Or is no meeting, but explicit sex talk illegal under such a statute? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: No man, he was grooming the boy. Grooming him for what...sex? If it WAS for sex, and the two then went on to have consensual sex, there would have been no crime because both were over the age of consent. In many states No in a few states actually. Far under a majority where large age difference raises the age to 18. it would be illegal as the pedophile laws take into account not only age of consent but the age difference in the parties as well -- often if there's more than a 4 yr age difference then the age of consent is raised to 18. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Outraged that the smug, hypocritical asshole who helped create that law is getting bitchslapped by it? You gotta be kidding! And, actually, I'm not particularly outraged by that law. It basically establishes 18 as the age of consent with respect to sexually explicit speech between individuals on the Internet. I don't find that any more draconian than a state age of consent law set at 18 or the law requiring porno actors be 18. Below is Attorney General Ashcroft praising Foley for helping to establish the law. It can be found on the Help Congressman Foley Protect Our Children website here http://www.votervoice.net/groups/foley/ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE TUESDAY, JUNE 25, 2002 WWW.USDOJ.GOV AG (202) 514-2008 TDD (202) 514-1888 STATEMENT OF ATTORNEY GENERAL JOHN ASHCROFT ON THE PASSAGE OF THE SMITH-POMEROY-FOLEY CHILD OBSCENITY AND PORNOGRAPHY PREVENTION ACT I am pleased that the House of Representatives passed the Child Obscenity and Pornography Prevention Act, a bill that will strengthen the ability of law enforcement to protect children from abuse and exploitation. I urge the Senate to bring this important legislation to the floor as soon as possible. I want to thank Chairman Sensenbrenner for guiding this important legislation through the Judiciary Commitee, and Congressmen Lamar Smith, Mark Foley, and Earl Pomeroy for their leadership on this bill. They have worked tirelessly to protect the health and safety of children. The Department of Justice remains solid in its commitment to identify, investigate, and prosecute those who sexually exploit children. I look forward to working with Congress to see to it that this legislation becomes law, so that we may continue in our efforts to eliminate child pornography and prosecute offenders. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re hello
I had some expirience in our TMO, but more then 5 years I do my program and educate my children, so today I am not involved too much in what happened. I live in Istria ( has a shape like India )and was involved in a few big TM projects as a leader in my town ( cca 6 inhabitans ). Lived hereon the top of the peninsula is somethind special, because the nature here is something straordinary. Somebody told that Istria is one of the 7 places in the world for the fastest spiritual evolution... We tried to make here Maharishi University of Peace, but the church did everything to stop this project. And they stopped it, cca 7-8 years ago In Istria and Croatia ( famous Dubrovnik project ) we had many international and famous Assembly of World Peace. Due to some people in America many people here are aginst America.My mother was born in America, many years ago, so Iam lookingdaily events in more flexible way... You in America have very, very big job to do...And we, out in America,must support you very, very much. Nenad __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
On Oct 4, 2006, at 8:40 AM, authfriend wrote: If you are comfortable being one of those kinda guys, who has so little going for him that he just does what he is told without question, good for you. Some of us prefer to grow up and do what *we* want to do... Er, without question wasn't part of either formulation. It's entirely possible to want to do something someone has requested that you do, for any number of reasons, and after extensive questioning. You really think that people *want* to listen to that boring nonsense droning on for hour after hour? Would you? Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Posting Habits in September -- followup
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EXPERIMENT: Does knowledge of one's posting habits affect those posting habits? -- RESULTS Before examining these results, there are two other questions to be answered: (1) *Should* knowledge of one's posting habits (assuming one doesn't already have knowledge of them) affect those posting habits? (2) Do comparative numbers of posts per week for an individual reflect a cause-and-effect relationship (or lack of same) between knowing their posting habits and changing those habits, or do the numbers reflect their level of interest in the conversations that happen to have been going on during the weeks in question? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys ever attend court in the SCA? Sexual Compulsives Anonymous? No, how was it? http://www.sca-recovery.org/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: No man, he was grooming the boy. Grooming him for what...sex? If it WAS for sex, and the two then went on to have consensual sex, there would have been no crime because both were over the age of consent. In many states it would be illegal as the pedophile laws take into account not only age of consent but the age difference in the parties as well -- often if there's more than a 4 yr age difference then the age of consent is raised to 18. Apparently this is not the case in DC though. And homosexual acts are still illegal in a few of the red states that best reflect shemp's kind of mind. And how do YOU feel about those states where it is still illegal? Do you support Gay Rights? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip So, tell me, who amongst you are FOR gay rights and support Foley's right to have consensual phone sex and consensual gay sex with the 17-year-old? Com'n my fine feathered liberal friends...who's for it? Judy? Of course. Doesn't mean I *approve*, necessarily, but there are lots of things that are legal that I don't approve of, and vice versa. Bhairitu? Spare Egg? Barry? Your silence is deafening... What are you talking about?? That question didn't even come up until you asked it just now. Precisely. Why did it take Shemp to ask the question...you caring, tolerant liberals should have come up with the question -- and the answer -- on your own. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
Sexual Compulsives Anonymous? No, how was it? http://www.sca-recovery.org/ Hey Turq, Picking up chicks at these meetings would save us a ton of money on bar tabs! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: You guys ever attend court in the SCA? Sexual Compulsives Anonymous? No, how was it? http://www.sca-recovery.org/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 4, 2006, at 8:40 AM, authfriend wrote: If you are comfortable being one of those kinda guys, who has so little going for him that he just does what he is told without question, good for you. Some of us prefer to grow up and do what *we* want to do... Er, without question wasn't part of either formulation. It's entirely possible to want to do something someone has requested that you do, for any number of reasons, and after extensive questioning. You really think that people *want* to listen to that boring nonsense droning on for hour after hour? Would you? I wouldn't, but neither would I rule out that some others might enjoy it. Different strokes, and all that. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is there no one willing to defend Foley's right to free speech?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Shemp, relax. I haven't seen anyone here endorsing the federal law--the one Foley wrote and sponsored-- that sets the age of consent for solicitation over the Internet at 18 when the age of consent for actual sexual activity is 15 or 16 in some states. (Alex just said he doesn't disapprove of the law per se, but I suspect he'd find the inconsistency between the federal law and the state laws absurd.) A large majority of states (as well as most or all of Europe) are less than 18. Only 8 or so states have the 18 year old level. Yes, that's why the federal law is absurd. And not even the FBI has yet determined whether the federal law applies in this case, or if not, which if any state laws apply. All anyone is advocating here, at any rate, is that *if* he solicited someone over the Internet who was underage for actual sexual activity in the relevant state, he committed a crime and should suffer the appropriate punishment. Solicitation seems an odd term to hinge the law on. It may not be the correct legal term; it was intended as shorthand for the kind of IMs Foley sent. Is thus setting up a meeting for coffee - after a number of chats -- illegal? I'd guess it depends on whether the nature of the chats implies that a meeting for coffee would lead to sexual activity (presumably after leaving the coffee shop). In other words, solicitation, as I was using the term, means solicitation for sex. If the chats were explicitly sexual, it strongly suggests that the meeting for coffee is a prelude to sexual activity in person, or even a euphemism for it. Or is no meeting, but explicit sex talk illegal under such a statute? Apparently so, explicit sex talk being considered a form of sexual activity (a la phone sex). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
On Oct 4, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: This is very funny: http://www3.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=178Uh, which Republican are you referring to? Foley? 1) He didn't molest anyone... 2) Had he had consensual physical relations with the boy in question there would have been no crime committed because the boy was over the age of consent. I am concerned with the draconian internet laws that are raking this guy over the coals. Sure, it was inappropriate speech but it was speech none-the-less and it was internet speech...and we, as regular users of the internet, should be bloody well outraged. Outraged that the smug, hypocritical asshole who helped create that law is getting bitchslapped by it? You gotta be kidding! While watching someone attacking their own shadow is a sure sign of lack of light/dark integration, it's often very entertaining to watch! Interestingly it works both ways, like when dire homophobes were observed while watching gay porn with devices that measured their erection responses. Oops! Ain't life fun. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip So, tell me, who amongst you are FOR gay rights and support Foley's right to have consensual phone sex and consensual gay sex with the 17-year-old? Com'n my fine feathered liberal friends...who's for it? Judy? Of course. Doesn't mean I *approve*, necessarily, but there are lots of things that are legal that I don't approve of, and vice versa. Bhairitu? Spare Egg? Barry? Your silence is deafening... What are you talking about?? That question didn't even come up until you asked it just now. Precisely. Why did it take Shemp to ask the question...you caring, tolerant liberals should have come up with the question -- and the answer -- on your own. The question didn't yet *exist*, because Foley's rights haven't been abrogated, and nobody knows whether they'll even ever be threatened. Medication time, Shemp. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
Some of this talk about how wierd this is and what mood-making! sounds like stale gossip from a DAR meeting -- discussing anyone not in their cirlce. Where is the undboundedness of awareness, and freshness of vision, when one can look at something new (or uncovered) and simply say interesting. Per the broadcast, I like the vedic recitation parts. And for me, I find Nader and Hagelin's talks much more on point and coherent than some of MMY's -- who is prone, IMO, to repetition and circular references. I found the talks to give a nice vision. Its sweet. Maybe it will not come to fruition. Maybe it will. Look back at it in 200 years. 1000 years. maybe it will all be dust. maybe it will be something. Possibly something of value to the world. Christianity became a world thing out of what I understand was a small chaotic group, floundering for several centuries. That is not to say that all floundering things become great. Few do. But small and floundering in early years does not disqualify it. Regardless, its a nice vision. Whats your grandest vision? If its a pitcher of beer next friday -- perhaps one should not taunt others with more far reaching visions. As for new or incovered/revived traditions, what approach would you personally devise if you wanted something to effectively last many generations? Your devision would prpbably be different -- but less wierd? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Not having been foolish enough to pay for such techniques, I couldn't say for sure. If I were to guess, I would imagine that the Return On Investment was similar to that of the TM Sidhis (which cost $5000 or so, depending on when/where you got them) compared to the $5 paperback copy of the Yoga Sutras they were taken from. Using the same percentage (0.1%), that makes the million dollar techniques worth about $1000. Ot perhaps you are the fool. Very possibly. I did pay 5000 bucks for something worth 5 bucks, which definitely makes me a fool. But I learned from that experience, and stopped short of paying 1 million bucks for something worth a thousand...if it's worth that much... Perhaps the perspective of the rajas differs from yours. I would say that that's a given. :-) How could they not see it as a donation to a cause they believe in? I'm sure they do. If you have 10 mil+ and are in your 50-60's, and perhaps have no heirs, donating portions of your estate makes sense, is a pleasure, -- and not a pinch. You left out the part about giving up any semblance of a normal life, but sure...it's their choice, and I support their right to make it. I was only saying that they're pretty darned laughable to have made that choice, and I stand by that. If *I* had 10+ million bucks and felt like donating some of it to a cause that I believe in, I think I'd manage to find a way to do so without having to wear flowing white robes and a Burger King crown. The fact that they didn't is what makes them laughable. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
Great topic to stretch my brain on. I understand your points better now Shemp. I had no idea the age of consent was so low. 16 year olds seem like babies to me, so the thought of chatting them up seems sick. If the age difference law is true, that makes a difference legally. I don't see Foley's behavior as having anything to do with gay rights. I don't think being for gay rights includes supporting toads like Foley hitting on pages. The gender doesn't matter. One of the kids from the transcript sounds straight, saying he just broke up with his girlfriend. That makes the conversation even more coercive in my opinion. It was not a discussion between two gay people. One was in a powerful position, and the other was vulnerable to his abuse. I don't know any gay people who would support that. Because he abused his power over these kids, Foley will fry. I'll bring the marshmallows. I hear hot 16 year olds go for them! (My political position is that I hate both parties equally) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip So, tell me, who amongst you are FOR gay rights and support Foley's right to have consensual phone sex and consensual gay sex with the 17-year-old? Com'n my fine feathered liberal friends...who's for it? Judy? Of course. Doesn't mean I *approve*, necessarily, but there are lots of things that are legal that I don't approve of, and vice versa. Bhairitu? Spare Egg? Barry? Your silence is deafening... What are you talking about?? That question didn't even come up until you asked it just now. Precisely. Why did it take Shemp to ask the question...you caring, tolerant liberals should have come up with the question -- and the answer -- on your own. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Oct 4, 2006, at 8:40 AM, authfriend wrote: If you are comfortable being one of those kinda guys, who has so little going for him that he just does what he is told without question, good for you. Some of us prefer to grow up and do what *we* want to do... Er, without question wasn't part of either formulation. It's entirely possible to want to do something someone has requested that you do, for any number of reasons, and after extensive questioning. You really think that people *want* to listen to that boring nonsense droning on for hour after hour? Would you? I wouldn't, but neither would I rule out that some others might enjoy it. Different strokes, and all that. I have been listening since yesterday. In background while I work. (Yes, the shame! Divided attention and all). I like parts. Whats on right now: That power is your Self. You are heaven on Earth What is strange or wierd about that? Its the message of every saint. I find this new speak crisper and yet more openly spiritual -- with lots more vedic references -- than the past. To me, its a cleaner, crisper vision and set of talks than many other spiritual groups / leaders i have heard. That is not saying the TMO necessarily has the full goods, nor is it a comparision between groups. But my sense of what the raja techniques are -- holding and sustaining awareness of the welfare and blossoming of an area at finest level -- is nice. I am glad someone, some group, is doing that. Who knows the effect. Maybe its small, maybe its large. No study disproves either. But I like that the rajas (and raja--eswas) are doing this. As I like that buddhist monks chant. And christian monks go into silence and pray for the world. etc. Its all good. Why the mocking? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: blast of shakti from the departing master
Oh my god!! it really is true about the shakti thing. I just googled Babaji death 1984, the year I had my enlightenment. There were dozens of websites about this guru who passed the day I had my awakening, February 14, 1984. http://www.babaji.net/teachings-babaji.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have some personal experience with receiving a blast of shakti from a departing master, but it may have nothing at all to do with whether or not you are conscioussly a devotee, just whether or not you need it and are ready to receive it. I had a profound enlightenment experience, in the mid 80's when I was in Fairfeild. It happened the morning of Valentines day. There were many months of miraculous stuff leading up to it, and I kind of felt it was coming about a week before it hit me. I remember at the time someone telling me that a master named Babaji dropped the body on the same day, but I have no idea who he was! Dont know a thing about him or if it was even true, but it made me wonder. Anyway, after about 3 weeks I started to return to my ego dominated conscioussness, darn it! But this makes me hopeful to get Maharishi's grace when he passes, if that is possible.But I do think it would be entirely irrelevant whether you were on some course or not. Only the ego experiences time and space limitations in that way.When you are ready, you are ready. And one thing I have learned for sure, extra meditation does not help!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: ... I don't recall of M indicated this in that same lecture or if I heard it else where, that disciples of great saints often get enlightened when their master drops the body. So, if you have been regular all these years and have the opportunity to go to the course, My advise would be to GO! While this may be true, another view on this phenomenon, spoken of often with a smile in the Tibetan Buddhist community, is that this idea of those who were with him at the end got instantly enlightened and/or those who were with him at the end are the ones who 'really' know his 'real' teaching is almost always promoted *by those people*. The smile, in Buddhist traditions, is because such people tend to be the ones who try to *take over* the tradition of the teacher at that point, and use I was there at the end as their justification for doing so. It's a pretty well-known phenomenon in spiritual circles. I certainly saw it in the Rama trip, and it is discussed openly in the Chogyam Trungpa and Muktananda trips. It's just what happens -- those who hang in there to the end expect to be *rewarded* for doing it. And so they come up with stories (which may or may not be true) as to how they were rewarded (I got enlightened at his funeral) or stories justifying the fact that they took over the tradition (I was there at the end, and now the Master appears to me in my dreams every night and tells me the 'real' truths and how to lead the movement). There may *be* some truth to there being a nice blast of energy when an enlightened being croaks, but I'm just mentioning this because (ahem) TM people seem to be blissfully ignorant of trends in spirituality that other traditions speak of openly and have gotten enough distance on to be able to laugh at. When Maharishi dies -- whether it is next week or in twenty years -- my advice is to use one very easy criterion to judge such stories of the big blast of energy *as* he died. If the person(s) telling you the story is using it to enhance his or her own self importance, or to justify the position he or she holds in the new movement, remember to laugh. There may be some truth to this rumor about people getting a blast of spiritual energy when a Maharishi leaves. I've noticed that anyone who drops the body is easier to reach for a little while afterwards- I've experienced this phenomenon when they are coming in also. So if a devotee is focused on Maharishi when he leaves, there could be such an experience. Whether that results in the devotee's enlightenment is dependent on the surrender of the devotee of course. As we can see from the lunatics in Holland who still refuse their enlightenment not today, James...bring the carriage 'round instead... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email |
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Medication time, Shemp. Is that a typo? Surely you must mean Meditation time, Shemp-ji To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And homosexual acts are still illegal in a few of the red states that best reflect shemp's kind of mind. And how do YOU feel about those states where it is still illegal? I don't believe sex among consenting adults should be legislated by the gov't. The gender of the people involved shouldn't matter. (I'm not sure what I think the age of consent should be or how to handle situations teenagers and adults many years older as I haven't thought about it much until Foley time). Back to main pt ... Right On to Alex's posts, and I wanted to highlight another Greenwald comment that sums it up for me: Mark Foley isn't some isolated case of shocking hypocrisy. Quite the contrary. People who have a publicly and vocally expressed obsession with other people's moral behavior and who want to use the power of the Government to enforce that obsession -- the Rick Santorums and Rush Limbaughs and Newt Gingrichs and Jim Bakkers and Ralph Reeds and Mark Foleys of the world -- are almost always fighting their own demons, not anyone else's. It is so important for them to parade around as moral protectors and moral warriors precisely because they have no other way to cleanse themselves, despite being in desperate need of a cleansing... We have been barraged with laws, programs, sermons, demagoguery and all sorts of moral demonization from a political movement whose most powerful pundit is a multiple-times-divorced drug addict who flamboyantly cavorts around with a new girlfriend every few months in between Viagra-fueled jaunts to the Dominican Republic. It is a political movement whose legacy will be torture, waterboards, naked, sadomasochistic games in Iraqi dungeons, with all sorts of varied sleaze and corruption deeply engrained throughout its DNA -- all propped up by a facade of moralism and dependent upon the support of those who have been propagandized into believing that they voting for the Party of Values and Morals. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great topic to stretch my brain on. I understand your points better now Shemp. I had no idea the age of consent was so low. age of consent by state and country http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm DC is 16. I hear there is a teen (16 and up) SCA chapter in DC. Invite Turq over and set up a grand tradition. Perhaps not big draw for Turq, as 15 os AoC in France. Well then make it a bi-continental tradition. You could even have some great bseball caps made for members. Great traditions have to have their funny hats. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Posting Habits in September -- followup
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: EXPERIMENT: Does knowledge of one's posting habits affect those posting habits? -- RESULTS Before examining these results, there are two other questions to be answered: (1) *Should* knowledge of one's posting habits (assuming one doesn't already have knowledge of them) affect those posting habits? (2) Do comparative numbers of posts per week for an individual reflect a cause-and-effect relationship (or lack of same) between knowing their posting habits and changing those habits, or do the numbers reflect their level of interest in the conversations that happen to have been going on during the weeks in question? Statistics for the entire month of September: sparaig -- 507 / 12.6% authfriend -- 482 / 12.0% shempmcgurk -- 392 / 9.7% Between the three of them, they account for 34.3% of all traffic on Fairfield Life. And seemingly none of them feel that this is out of line in any way. Then again, I've met people with a $2000-a- day cocaine habit who don't feel that they have a problem, so at least these guys are saving money with *their* addiction. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Raja Pat Barrett
I heard on the MOU broadcast that one of the new Raja's is Pat Barrett. From one of Doug's post -- long ago, I understood he lived in FF for some time -- one of the horse property people. I knew Pat in the 70's -- over three locations and three eras. I wish him all the best with his raja hood. But I had to laugh. He is the last person I would have imagined becoming a raja. Often penniless and scrounging when I knew him. No family money that was apparent. No career -- just sort of hustling around -- this and that. Anyone know his story from the 80's on. How he made his money? Started a business? Is he still married to same women -- I forgot her name? Adventures with TMO in 80's 90's etc? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amazon.com: The Maharishi Effect: A Personal Journey Through the Movement The on 10/4/06 4:29 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/3/06 4:18 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: I never heard of the TMO being thrown out. I was in the group (everybody at International at the time) helping to prepare for the Nepal trip. Maharishi initiated thousands with an earphone system. But almost everyone stopped meditating after a few days. Nice one Rick. Its a good example of how incredible distorted stories become when someone is addicted to rumours and loves to twist the truth. So whats the truth? Bless us, please. Well, you where there personally so I obvously believe your version. Not Ingegerd's distortions. I misunderstood. I thought you were disputing my statement that most of them stopped meditating. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
DC is 16. I hear there is a teen (16 and up) SCA chapter in DC. Invite Turq over and set up a grand tradition. Perhaps not big draw for Turq, as 15 os AoC in France. Well then make it a bi-continental tradition. You could even have some great bseball caps made for members. Great traditions have to have their funny hats. Excellent! I wonder if having your girlfriend or wife discover that age-of-consent link on your list of favorites would cause any trouble in a relationship! I think some countries have raised their ages in the last few years. The list seem pretty civilized. But what is with girl on girl sex allowed at lower ages in some places? Very interesting site. I was shocked by the states with anti-gay laws still. I'm guessing that we can thank religious beliefs for this ignorance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great topic to stretch my brain on. I understand your points better now Shemp. I had no idea the age of consent was so low. age of consent by state and country http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm DC is 16. I hear there is a teen (16 and up) SCA chapter in DC. Invite Turq over and set up a grand tradition. Perhaps not big draw for Turq, as 15 os AoC in France. Well then make it a bi-continental tradition. You could even have some great bseball caps made for members. Great traditions have to have their funny hats. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Back to main pt ... Right On to Alex's posts, and I wanted to highlight another Greenwald comment that sums it up for me: snip We have been barraged with laws, programs, sermons, demagoguery and all sorts of moral demonization from a political movement whose most powerful pundit is a multiple-times-divorced drug addict who flamboyantly cavorts around with a new girlfriend every few months in between Viagra-fueled jaunts to the Dominican Republic. (Right-wing radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh, in case anyone was wondering.) It is a political movement whose legacy will be torture, waterboards, naked, sadomasochistic games in Iraqi dungeons, with all sorts of varied sleaze and corruption deeply engrained throughout its DNA -- all propped up by a facade of moralism and dependent upon the support of those who have been propagandized into believing that they voting for the Party of Values and Morals. Which is why this current scandal is so important, given its potential to make these folks realize how empty are the claims of this movement's leaders. Foley himself is just the straw the camel stepped on and broke. It's what his behavior reveals about the leaders that their hypocritical propaganda that is really significant. (Greenwald's great. But man, he does run on!) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Posting Habits in September -- followup
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: EXPERIMENT: Does knowledge of one's posting habits affect those posting habits? -- RESULTS Before examining these results, there are two other questions to be answered: (1) *Should* knowledge of one's posting habits (assuming one doesn't already have knowledge of them) affect those posting habits? (2) Do comparative numbers of posts per week for an individual reflect a cause-and-effect relationship (or lack of same) between knowing their posting habits and changing those habits, or do the numbers reflect their level of interest in the conversations that happen to have been going on during the weeks in question? Statistics for the entire month of September: sparaig -- 507 / 12.6% authfriend -- 482 / 12.0% shempmcgurk -- 392 / 9.7% Between the three of them, they account for 34.3% of all traffic on Fairfield Life. And seemingly none of them feel that this is out of line in any way. Where is the line we are supposedly out of, and on what basis is it drawn? Notice that Barry carefully avoids responding to or even acknowledging either of my questions. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Raja Pat Barrett
On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:54 AM, new.morning wrote: I knew Pat in the 70's -- over three locations and three eras. I wish him all the best with his raja hood. You mean his raja crown--they're not wearing hoods yet, but that's undoubtedly coming. And soon, too, to a wooded area near you. :) Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Raja Pat Barrett
I heard on the MOU broadcast that one of the new Raja's is Pat Barrett. From one of Doug's post -- long ago, I understood he lived in FF for some time -- one of the horse property people. I knew Pat, periodically, in the 70's and up to mid 80's -- over three locations and three eras. I wish him all the best with his raja hood. But I had to laugh. He is the last person I would have imagined becoming a raja. Though an energetic, vibrant and entertaining personality, he was often penniless and scrounging when I knew him. No family money that was apparent. No career -- just sort of hustling around -- this and that. Thus in the last 20 years from really quite nothing (no money, lite in major career/skill areas, no big prospects, no big ambition other than crazy TMO stuff, etc., he made several million+ apparently. Good for him. Maybe that TM stuff does work? :) Anyone know his story for the last 20 years. How he made his fortune? Started a business? Is he still married to the same women -- I forgot her name? Adventures with TMO in 80's 90's etc? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The list seem pretty civilized. But what is with girl on girl sex allowed at lower ages in some places? Possibly because neither participant is likely to get pregnant? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DC is 16. I hear there is a teen (16 and up) SCA chapter in DC. Invite Turq over and set up a grand tradition. Perhaps not big draw for Turq, as 15 os AoC in France. Well then make it a bi-continental tradition. You could even have some great bseball caps made for members. Great traditions have to have their funny hats. Excellent! I wonder if having your girlfriend or wife discover that age-of-consent link on your list of favorites would cause any trouble in a relationship! Well she is 16 :) so no problem. She made me look it up to make sure we were legal. She said kewl! when I said the state blessed us. Ironically, she's friends with Turq's 15 year old gf. They met on line. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
It is lower than the guy on guy action. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip The list seem pretty civilized. But what is with girl on girl sex allowed at lower ages in some places? Possibly because neither participant is likely to get pregnant? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If *I* had 10+ million bucks and felt like donating some of it to a cause that I believe in, I think I'd manage to find a way to do so without having to wear flowing white robes and a Burger King crown. But then you have established, it appears, that you approach spiritual choices with a sharp pencil, asking whats in it or me?! Perhaps some of the rajas long ago figured out that the me is insubstantial and hollow/empty. The fact that they didn't is what makes them laughable. Its quite grand to see such floods of compassion, always uplifting others, never mocking or making fun of others. Clearly your mother taught you well. And its wonderful to see how your Totality of Wholeness prevents any mars of shadowself that might induce the thought to laugh at others. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
On Oct 4, 2006, at 10:17 AM, new.morning wrote:Some of this talk about "how wierd this is" and "what mood-making!" sounds like stale gossip from a DAR meeting -- discussing anyone not in their "cirlce". Where is the undboundedness of awareness, and freshness of vision, when one can look at something new (or uncovered) and simply say "interesting". Per the broadcast, I like the vedic recitation parts. And for me, I find Nader and Hagelin's talks much more on point and coherent than some of MMY's -- who is prone, IMO, to repetition and circular references. I found the talks to give a nice vision. Its sweet. Maybe it will not come to fruition. Maybe it will. Look back at it in 200 years. 1000 years. maybe it will all be dust. maybe it will be something. Possibly something of value to the world. Christianity became a world thing out of what I understand was a small chaotic group, floundering for several centuries. That is not to say that all floundering things become great. Few do. But small and floundering in early years does not disqualify it. I think it already has. TM was a major catalyst for raising the interest level for meditation period--TMers who went on to other forms of meditation, people who heard all the TM marketing spin and thought "maybe I should check out some form of meditation" or people who just always stuck with TM. TM's major contribution to this world may just simply be being "at the right place at the right time"--it might not even be TM itself, but the catalysis it's promotion and presence provided in collective awareness. In that sense maybe (as someone once claimed the Bhrigu shastras stated) Mahesh Varma is a minor avatar (1/16th of an avatar IIRC). Just a messenger, don't kill him. And whether one likes TM as their own form of meditation or not I think most meditators would acknowledge that mediation together in groups is a good thing--another trend the TMO helped inject into world awareness. It may just all be about nudging world awareness on these two topics. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
She said kewl! Great line! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: DC is 16. I hear there is a teen (16 and up) SCA chapter in DC. Invite Turq over and set up a grand tradition. Perhaps not big draw for Turq, as 15 os AoC in France. Well then make it a bi-continental tradition. You could even have some great bseball caps made for members. Great traditions have to have their funny hats. Excellent! I wonder if having your girlfriend or wife discover that age-of-consent link on your list of favorites would cause any trouble in a relationship! Well she is 16 :) so no problem. She made me look it up to make sure we were legal. She said kewl! when I said the state blessed us. Ironically, she's friends with Turq's 15 year old gf. They met on line. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! (Lawwon's- Old Anoop Chandola Story)
sparaig spare egg/Lawson English wrote: Y'know, maybe I can't read the stilted language of the Indian Courts properly, or maybe I simply can't understand your points (or both), Namaste Sir Lawson, Then please allow to clarify, and give you the gest of the tired Old Anoop Chandola Story, and the fabrications of truth contained in Swami Shantanand's book -'Om Sri Jyothirmath'. First of all: (1) Regarding the will of Sri BrahmanandJi. None of the civil lawsuits were framed around the vaildity of the will. ..Thus, none of the civil suits in this dispute seems to have been framed in terms of contesting the legal bona fides of Brahmananda's will... http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html The original lawsuit was brought by the founding trust of ashram the- Bharata Dharma Mahamandala in Swami Paratmanand's name disputing Shantanand's fitness to hold the seat, and mal- adminstration of the ashram trust. The side issues as the court stated-, particulars as regards the defect in the machinery for administration which had crept in under custom or rules which required rectification, were somewhat addressed. The court ruled that Swami Shantinand could not in fact understand Sanskrit language. And, this is not a secular issue as you tried to point out. As, the sanskrit language was used outside of the religious connation you suggested so this issue was decided by the court. Apparent to the court Swami Shantinand lacked demonstrable skill of sanskrit language ruled as such. And, the Court upheld the assertions of the Bharata Dharma Mahamandala. However, by the *extensive current research* by Dana Sawyer Profeesor of Religion and Philoshpy at Maine College of Art and Vidyasankar Sundaresan at issue was- the fact Sri BrahmanandJi never clearly indicated his successor. This fact was based upon few issues and *Legal Facts*- a. *legal Fact* the publication of the will, which surfaced weeks after Sri BrahmanandJi's passing. Inspite of Swami Shantand's claim-, Item #1). A fully executed will of Sri BrahmanandJi was deposited in Allhalabad on December 18, 1952. (1st paragraph page 2 of 'Om Sri Jyothirmath') b. Swami Shantanand was a poor choice because of the *Legal Fact* he could not comprehend sanskrit nor the Vedas. Inspite of Swami Shantand's claim-, He was completely qualified the hold the seat as he was literate in Sanskrit and the Vedas. (2nd paragraph page 2 of 'Om Sri Jyothirmath') c. At issue was the fact that Swami Shantanand was installed in Sri BrahmanandJi's gaddi by Brahmachari Mahesh and few friends that thought the will could be credible. As, Dana Sawyer Profeesor of Religion and Philoshpy at Maine College of Art has pointed out. Inspite of Swami Shantand's claim-, Item #2). He was installed in Varansi in the presence of hundreds of scholars from all over the country (2nd paragraph page 3 of 'Om Sri Jyothirmath') d. At issue were the suspicious behavior and motivations of Brahmachari Mahesh at about the time of Sri BrahmanandJi's passing. ..In fact, the earliest doubts about the will left by Brahmananda Saraswati were linked to suspicion of the motives and actions of Mahesh Yogi (then called Mahesh Brahmachari)... http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html but it seems to ME that you're arguing something that isn't supported by what the court actually SAID as I quoted at the bottom of this article... The court did not rule on the question of the validity of the will that is your mis-understanding. ..Thus, none of the civil suits in this dispute seems to have been framed in terms of contesting the legal bona fides of Brahmananda's will... http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html coldbluiceman wrote: sparaig spare egg/ Lawson English wrote: coldbluiceman sperino wrote: sparaig spare egg / Lawson English wrote: Jeffrey wrote: snip Namaste Lawson Ji, The same tired *OLD ANOOP CHANDOLA STORY* you rely so very heavily upon. It truly is something that after 35 years.., all you have is just one conversation with Anoop Chanodla that has shaped your entire *Belief System* which soley based on Anoop Chandola's spuroius claims. That is truly sad! The Anoop Chandola Story has been dis-proven by court documents and yet you ignore them! The spurious claims made by Anoop Chandola regarding-, Guru Dev's hand-picked successor are easily disproven Lawson. Simply by a review of historical facts of two items.., thereby nullifing your arguement of the legitmacy of Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh. As you entire *Blind Faith Belief System* is based upon the supposed relationship of- Shantinanda / Mahesh to Sri BrahmanandJi. It is a fact that Swami Shantinanda made false claims in his book- 'Shri
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (Regarding Rajas) Do you actually believe that Maharishi *respects* these people? If so, think that many here who (unlike you) have actually had some experience being around him and watching how he treats people would disagree with you. I'd be willing to bet that Maharishi considers them fools, too. I completely disagree. I think that Maharishi deeply loves and respects the Rajas. They may act like fools, but it is still their right to do so, and better for them to work it out then stop it as a result of outside influences. Personally though,as a form of inspriration and/or entertainment I continue to find it bring... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
I consider making fun of the Rajas to be my civic duty. Blame it on my youthful addiction to Mad Magazines. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: If *I* had 10+ million bucks and felt like donating some of it to a cause that I believe in, I think I'd manage to find a way to do so without having to wear flowing white robes and a Burger King crown. But then you have established, it appears, that you approach spiritual choices with a sharp pencil, asking whats in it or me?! Perhaps some of the rajas long ago figured out that the me is insubstantial and hollow/empty. The fact that they didn't is what makes them laughable. Its quite grand to see such floods of compassion, always uplifting others, never mocking or making fun of others. Clearly your mother taught you well. And its wonderful to see how your Totality of Wholeness prevents any mars of shadowself that might induce the thought to laugh at others. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: blast of shakti from the departing master
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 4, 2006, at 12:25 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Time to test this idea. Kill all the self-proclaimed holy men and let's see how we feel. Would poisoning be OK? ;-) What are you thinking of poisoning yourself with? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: If *I* had 10+ million bucks and felt like donating some of it to a cause that I believe in, I think I'd manage to find a way to do so without having to wear flowing white robes and a Burger King crown. But then you have established, it appears, that you approach spiritual choices with a sharp pencil, asking whats in it or me?! Perhaps some of the rajas long ago figured out that the me is insubstantial and hollow/empty. I honestly think you've got the equation backwards here. If I want to give away money, all I'm looking for is to be able to do so while continuing to live my life the way I want to. I'm *not* trying to get anything for myself; I am, in fact, trying to give something away, and then *walk away*. (In fact, when I *have* given away money in the past, I've done so anonymously, *so that* I didn't have to get involved in any of the egogames that surround charitable donations to spiritual groups.) Compare and contrast to the Rajas, who (to their credit) gave some money to a cause they believe in. HOWEVER, they *didn't* give the money anonymously or even quietly. They could have. But they didn't. What they did instead was to donate the money in such a way as to buy the right to wear flowing white robes and a crown and prance around at TMO functions as if they were important. It seems to me that *they* are the ones you have a problem with, not me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is lower than the guy on guy action. Ah...that is strange. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip The list seem pretty civilized. But what is with girl on girl sex allowed at lower ages in some places? Possibly because neither participant is likely to get pregnant? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 4, 2006, at 10:17 AM, new.morning wrote: Some of this talk about how wierd this is and what mood-making! sounds like stale gossip from a DAR meeting -- discussing anyone not in their cirlce. Where is the undboundedness of awareness, and freshness of vision, when one can look at something new (or uncovered) and simply say interesting. Per the broadcast, I like the vedic recitation parts. And for me, I find Nader and Hagelin's talks much more on point and coherent than some of MMY's -- who is prone, IMO, to repetition and circular references. I found the talks to give a nice vision. Its sweet. Maybe it will not come to fruition. Maybe it will. Look back at it in 200 years. 1000 years. maybe it will all be dust. maybe it will be something. Possibly something of value to the world. Christianity became a world thing out of what I understand was a small chaotic group, floundering for several centuries. That is not to say that all floundering things become great. Few do. But small and floundering in early years does not disqualify it. I think it already has. TM was a major catalyst for raising the interest level for meditation period--TMers who went on to other forms of meditation, people who heard all the TM marketing spin and thought maybe I should check out some form of meditation or people who just always stuck with TM. TM's major contribution to this world may just simply be being at the right place at the right time--it might not even be TM itself, but the catalysis it's promotion and presence provided in collective awareness. In that sense maybe (as someone once claimed the Bhrigu shastras stated) Mahesh Varma is a minor avatar (1/16th of an avatar IIRC). Just a messenger, don't kill him. And whether one likes TM as their own form of meditation or not I think most meditators would acknowledge that mediation together in groups is a good thing--another trend the TMO helped inject into world awareness. It may just all be about nudging world awareness on these two topics. You know Vaj, I wonder about the same thing when I listen to stuff like this http://www.theendofsuffering.org. Dr. Russell Targ, remote viewing instructor, writing about non-locality and non-duality, and Dr. Jim Hardt using advanced bio-feedback to assemble the global mind. Two nights in a row on late night Coast to Coast AM nationwide. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: No man, he was grooming the boy. Speach is not protected when it is in this context. He was just dead wrong. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: This is very funny: http://www3.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=178 Uh, which Republican are you referring to? Foley? 1) He didn't molest anyone... 2) Had he had consensual physical relations with the boy in question there would have been no crime committed because the boy was over the age of consent. I am concerned with the draconian internet laws that are raking this guy over the coals. Sure, it was inappropriate speech but it was speech none-the-less and it was internet speech...and we, as regular users of the internet, should be bloody well outraged. Shempgurk...it was ... UN ...fvckin ... ETHICAL Of course it was! What's your point? You want to throw someone in jail for speech that was unethical? For sleazy speech? Think about the implications of what you're saying if you answer is yes. Propositioning minors is more than a free speech issue, however. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
Were all the pages Foley spoke to over the age of consent? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...that sleazebags like Foley have the right to solicit males over the age of consent for sex. Of course, Foley didn't HAVE sex with any of the males in question on these tapes. But if he did and you, the reader, are for gay rights, you are FOR Foley having sex with whomever he can convince to have consensual sex with him. Now, if he is breaking a rule of his place of work when he does that, that's another matter. So, tell me, who amongst you are FOR gay rights and support Foley's right to have consensual phone sex and consensual gay sex with the 17-year-old? Com'n my fine feathered liberal friends...who's for it? Judy? Bhairitu? Spare Egg? Barry? Your silence is deafening... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Eh. I see guys acting just as their guru has requested that they act. Just as an experiment, replace the word 'guru' in the above sentence with other words, and see how you feel about the guys in question: I see guys acting just as their Daddy has requested that they act. I see guys acting just as their Mommy has requested that they act. I see guys acting just as their gpvernment has requested that they act. I see guys acting just as their priest has requested that they act. I see guys acting just as their family has requested that they act. ...etc. If you are comfortable being one of those kinda guys, who has so little going for him that he just does what he is told without question, good for you. Some of us prefer to grow up and do what *we* want to do... Where did *I* say I was doing as my guru requested? I was merely pointing out that this was a scripted scene contrived by MMY. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She said kewl! Great line! I picked that up from Maria. She was only 16 when I started following her. (Jeez and only 19 now. She seems mid-20ish, IMO) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were all the pages Foley spoke to over the age of consent? It's yet to be determined which age of consent applies to which cases. At this point, it appears he's in the clear with regard to state law, but there may be more IMs and/or emails yet to be released. If the federal law applies (the one he wrote and sponsored), those we know about so far were underage (18 is the federal age of consent for sex-related Internet communications between an adult and a younger person). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip So when I found out about all this stuff about King Tony getting his weight in gold, and Rajas and gold crowns, it was really a mindboggler. I think sometimes that those who lasted long enough for that kinda stuff to have become commonplace don't understand just how weird it really is. You mean like the proverbial frogs in the vat of lukewarm water over a continual flame where you don't realize you're done until your blood is boiling and your brain is cooked? :) Heh. Some of these frogs had to pay a million dollars for the privilege of jumping in the pot in the first place. I don't think you can claim that they're being fooled on some level. Who said anything about anyone being fooled? The comments have to do with people being around long enough for that behavior to become commonplace, millionaires or not. BY the time folks were asked for the million they'd been in there a long time already. Besides--the frog thing was a tongue-in-cheek throw away line. It was *also* a completely accurate metaphor for what's happened to these silly people. If Sparaig weren't in Professional TM Apologist mode, he'd be talking about how brainwashed they are, too. :-) Er, no. I see a bunch of guys duitfully following a script laid out by their guru/teacher/ whatever. Some may believe in the whole thing, some partially, and some may be doing it simply because the Old Man wants them to. Doesn't matter. They're doing it specifically because they were told to. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Do you actually believe that Maharishi *respects* these people? dunno. If so, think that many here who (unlike you) have actually had some experience being around him and watching how he treats people would disagree with you. So MMY doesn't respect anyone around him at all? I'd be willing to bet that Maharishi considers them fools, too. Nyah. He's well aware that there are myriad reasons to be doing as he requests. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
Well, if its due to a Mad Magazine influence, you get a total pass. My whole family loved it. It was a regular Christmas stocking stuffer. (A bountiful gift from our Lord, :)) The daughter of the publisher or editor (Gaines? comes to mind) was a TM teacher. I think she said he did TM too. It was great talking to her once about her dad. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I consider making fun of the Rajas to be my civic duty. Blame it on my youthful addiction to Mad Magazines. Turq: The fact that they didn't is what makes them laughable. new.morning: Its quite grand to see such floods of compassion, always uplifting others, never mocking or making fun of others. Clearly your mother taught you well. And its wonderful to see how your Totality of Wholeness prevents any mars of shadowself that might induce the thought to laugh at others. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sexual Compulsives Anonymous? No, how was it? http://www.sca-recovery.org/ Hey Turq, Picking up chicks at these meetings would save us a ton of money on bar tabs! Eh. SCA chicks are known for many things, also, but no-one feels a need to create a recovery website for them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Very possibly. I did pay 5000 bucks for something worth 5 bucks, which definitely makes me a fool. But I learned from that experience, and stopped short of paying 1 million bucks for something worth a thousand...if it's worth that much... It's an odd think the sidhis (and TM) are under-priced at the current rate. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If *I* had 10+ million bucks and felt like donating some of it to a cause that I believe in, I think I'd manage to find a way to do so without having to wear flowing white robes and a Burger King crown. The fact that they didn't is what makes them laughable. The rajas are the ones who are willing to give $1 million in exchange for the privilege of helping run the TMO. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
Nancy Berg, the daughter of the guy who wrote the Lighter Side of... was in my class at MIU. David Berg, nice guy I joined them for lunch on a parent's day and it was like meetinga rock star of my youth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if its due to a Mad Magazine influence, you get a total pass. My whole family loved it. It was a regular Christmas stocking stuffer. (A bountiful gift from our Lord, :)) The daughter of the publisher or editor (Gaines? comes to mind) was a TM teacher. I think she said he did TM too. It was great talking to her once about her dad. curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I consider making fun of the Rajas to be my civic duty. Blame it on my youthful addiction to Mad Magazines. Turq: The fact that they didn't is what makes them laughable. new.morning: Its quite grand to see such floods of compassion, always uplifting others, never mocking or making fun of others. Clearly your mother taught you well. And its wonderful to see how your Totality of Wholeness prevents any mars of shadowself that might induce the thought to laugh at others. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Pat Barrett
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard on the MOU broadcast that one of the new Raja's is Pat Barrett. From one of Doug's post -- long ago, I understood he lived in FF for some time -- one of the horse property people. I knew Pat, periodically, in the 70's and up to mid 80's -- over three locations and three eras. I wish him all the best with his raja hood. But I had to laugh. He is the last person I would have imagined becoming a raja. Though an energetic, vibrant and entertaining personality, he was often penniless and scrounging when I knew him. No family money that was apparent. No career -- just sort of hustling around -- this and that. Thus in the last 20 years from really quite nothing (no money, lite in major career/skill areas, no big prospects, no big ambition other than crazy TMO stuff, etc., he made several million+ apparently. Good for him. Maybe that TM stuff does work? :) Anyone know his story for the last 20 years. How he made his fortune? Started a business? Is he still married to the same women -- I forgot her name? Adventures with TMO in 80's 90's etc? Perhaps he has a wealthy sponsor? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Pat Barrett
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:54 AM, new.morning wrote: I knew Pat in the 70's -- over three locations and three eras. I wish him all the best with his raja hood. You mean his raja crown--they're not wearing hoods yet, but that's undoubtedly coming. And soon, too, to a wooded area near you. :) Sal Well, there IS that ring of stones in Vedic City and the Celts and Vedic civilization are supposed to be closely related... Oh! You meant KKK, not druids... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being for gay rights means...
She was only 16 when I started following her. Corrected typo - stalking! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: She said kewl! Great line! I picked that up from Maria. She was only 16 when I started following her. (Jeez and only 19 now. She seems mid-20ish, IMO) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: You guys ever attend court in the SCA? Sexual Compulsives Anonymous? No, how was it? http://www.sca-recovery.org/ No... http://www.sca.org/ Why did you add recovery to the web search? The term attend court should have told you that the most obvious URL was the correct one. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:45 AM, jyouells2000 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 4, 2006, at 10:17 AM, new.morning wrote: Some of this talk about "how wierd this is" and "what mood-making!" sounds like stale gossip from a DAR meeting -- discussing anyone not in their "cirlce". Where is the undboundedness of awareness, and freshness of vision, when one can look at something new (or uncovered) and simply say "interesting". Per the broadcast, I like the vedic recitation parts. And for me, I find Nader and Hagelin's talks much more on point and coherent than some of MMY's -- who is prone, IMO, to repetition and circular references. I found the talks to give a nice vision. Its sweet. Maybe it will not come to fruition. Maybe it will. Look back at it in 200 years. 1000 years. maybe it will all be dust. maybe it will be something. Possibly something of value to the world. Christianity became a world thing out of what I understand was a small chaotic group, floundering for several centuries. That is not to say that all floundering things become great. Few do. But small and floundering in early years does not disqualify it. I think it already has. TM was a major catalyst for raising the interest level for meditation period--TMers who went on to other forms of meditation, people who heard all the TM marketing spin and thought "maybe I should check out some form of meditation" or people who just always stuck with TM. TM's major contribution to this world may just simply be being "at the right place at the right time"--it might not even be TM itself, but the catalysis it's promotion and presence provided in collective awareness. In that sense maybe (as someone once claimed the Bhrigu shastras stated) Mahesh Varma is a minor avatar (1/16th of an avatar IIRC). Just a messenger, don't kill him. And whether one likes TM as their own form of meditation or not I think most meditators would acknowledge that mediation together in groups is a good thing--another trend the TMO helped inject into world awareness. It may just all be about nudging world awareness on these two topics.You know Vaj, I wonder about the same thing when I listen to stuff like this http://www.theendofsuffering.org. Dr. Russell Targ, remote viewing instructor, writing about non-locality and non-duality, and Dr. Jim Hardt using advanced bio-feedback to assemble the global mind. Two nights in a row on late night Coast to Coast AM nationwide. JohnY Thanks, I'll add it to my MP3 player. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Sexual Compulsives Anonymous? No, how was it? http://www.sca-recovery.org/ Hey Turq, Picking up chicks at these meetings would save us a ton of money on bar tabs! From Website: Our primary purpose is to stay sexually sober and to help others to achieve sexual sobriety. Members are encouraged to develop their own sexual recovery plan, and to define sexual sobriety for themselves. We are not here to repress our God-given sexuality, but to learn how to express it in ways that will not make unreasonable demands on our time and energy, place us in legal jeopardy -- or endanger our mental, physical or spiritual health. Curtis, over coffee, after SCA meeting: Baby, my recovery plan is to take it one step at a time. If I can cut down from 6 times a day to three, I call it a good day. I don't want to repress my God-given sexuality -- even thought I don't beleive in God -- but to learn how to express it in meaningful and authentic ways, glorifying God's abundance -- if he actually exists--- that will not make unreasonable --- and who actually knows what unreasonable is? --- demands on our time and energy -- I have had s much free time lately -- You? -- or endanger our mental, physical or spiritual health -- but I have been feeling SO healthy lately. You? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: You guys ever attend court in the SCA? Sexual Compulsives Anonymous? No, how was it? http://www.sca-recovery.org/ No... http://www.sca.org/ Why did you add recovery to the web search? I didn't. I searched SCA. The term attend court should have told you that the most obvious URL was the correct one. As most would find my phrasing leading to humor. But not all, apparently. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nancy Berg, the daughter of the guy who wrote the Lighter Side of... was in my class at MIU. David Berg, nice guy I joined them for lunch on a parent's day and it was like meeting a rock star of my youth. Right. I think thats the one. He wrote more than Lighter Side didn't he? Did you meet Jack Kramer -- famed tennis player of the late 40's to early 60's. I grew up playing tennis with with a wilson Jack Kramer raquet, as did the majority of my peers. Ken? Kramer, his son, was at MIU in SB, and I blieve FF too. I think jack attended a parents day or graduation. Turq: The fact that they didn't is what makes them laughable. new.morning: Its quite grand to see such floods of compassion, always uplifting others, never mocking or making fun of others. Clearly your mother taught you well. And its wonderful to see how your Totality of Wholeness prevents any mars of shadowself that might induce the thought to laugh at others. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Liberals.....but child molesting Republicans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Which is why this current scandal is so important, given its potential to make these folks realize how empty are the claims of this movement's leaders. Foley himself is just the straw the camel stepped on and broke. It's what his behavior reveals about the leaders that their hypocritical propaganda that is really significant. (Greenwald's great. But man, he does run on!) I forget who it was here who said this Foley thing is a dodge to divert attention from the crumbling Bush claim that Great White Father Bush keeps us safe from terror in the Homeland (God, I detest that word...). I think a calculation was made by Rove and the Republican leadership to sacrifice Foley since it appears the House will go Democratic anyway, and take the attention away from Rice 'forgetting' a warning from the CIA re: 911, and other incidents that have recently come to light regarding the ever more transparent facade of Bush's War on Terra. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
The whole counter culture owes a big debt to Mad. I forget what else David Berg wrote in Mad, it has been a while. I remember discussing with him the age that kids turn off on the magazine. I think its formulaic humor just stops working at a certain age. The magazine was trying to figure out how to raise the age. To view adults as hypocritical just hits the spot for a ten year old. I don't remember the tennis guy. but I also played with a Kramer racquet. That is an interesting connection. You should include that little bit of tennis history in your next stalker chat with Maria! Unless I get to IM her with it first! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Nancy Berg, the daughter of the guy who wrote the Lighter Side of... was in my class at MIU. David Berg, nice guy I joined them for lunch on a parent's day and it was like meeting a rock star of my youth. Right. I think thats the one. He wrote more than Lighter Side didn't he? Did you meet Jack Kramer -- famed tennis player of the late 40's to early 60's. I grew up playing tennis with with a wilson Jack Kramer raquet, as did the majority of my peers. Ken? Kramer, his son, was at MIU in SB, and I blieve FF too. I think jack attended a parents day or graduation. Turq: The fact that they didn't is what makes them laughable. new.morning: Its quite grand to see such floods of compassion, always uplifting others, never mocking or making fun of others. Clearly your mother taught you well. And its wonderful to see how your Totality of Wholeness prevents any mars of shadowself that might induce the thought to laugh at others. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
Curtis, over coffee, after SCA meeting: Baby, my recovery plan is to take it one step at a time. If I can cut down from 6 times a day to three, I call it a good day. I don't want to repress my God-given sexuality -- even thought I don't beleive in God -- but to learn how to express it in meaningful and authentic ways, glorifying God's abundance -- if he actually exists--- that will not make unreasonable --- and who actually knows what unreasonable is? --- demands on our time and energy -- I have had s much free time lately -- You? -- or endanger our mental, physical or spiritual health -- but I have been feeling SO healthy lately. You? Nice rap. But I'm thinking that in this group you don't need a reason, just a location! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Sexual Compulsives Anonymous? No, how was it? http://www.sca-recovery.org/ Hey Turq, Picking up chicks at these meetings would save us a ton of money on bar tabs! From Website: Our primary purpose is to stay sexually sober and to help others to achieve sexual sobriety. Members are encouraged to develop their own sexual recovery plan, and to define sexual sobriety for themselves. We are not here to repress our God-given sexuality, but to learn how to express it in ways that will not make unreasonable demands on our time and energy, place us in legal jeopardy -- or endanger our mental, physical or spiritual health. Curtis, over coffee, after SCA meeting: Baby, my recovery plan is to take it one step at a time. If I can cut down from 6 times a day to three, I call it a good day. I don't want to repress my God-given sexuality -- even thought I don't beleive in God -- but to learn how to express it in meaningful and authentic ways, glorifying God's abundance -- if he actually exists--- that will not make unreasonable --- and who actually knows what unreasonable is? --- demands on our time and energy -- I have had s much free time lately -- You? -- or endanger our mental, physical or spiritual health -- but I have been feeling SO healthy lately. You? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did the Zimmerman's drop out of the movement also?
Vaj wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: Vaj wrote: Samaya Sri Vidya does not require any externally obvious signs. Namaste Vaj Ji, Please tell me what exactly are the signs of Sri Vidya? External ritual. Namaste Vaj ji Please tell me of this external ritual? For example puja? Samaya practice is internal (i.e. you might not necessarily see such a practitioner doing anything obvious externally). Please tell me is this samaya the same tm-samya? Not finding a secret practice on a web site is no indication that it is not practiced, nor should we be surprised it is not practiced everywhere. Maybe, but you insisted Sri Vidya was practised by Adi Shankara and at His established mutts. You might want to look at what I did originally say: Ok. Sri Rajareshsvari is a form of the Goddess worshipped in Sri Vidya and popular in the cult of the Shankaracharyas. A very old pagan and tantric Goddess. i must politely take exception with your statement. As when i *google* your Rajareshsvari name i come with nothing!! However if i *google* the name i told you- Tripurasundari i come with 16,000 sites related to Devi Tripurasundari http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=tripurasundari Results 1 - 10 of about 16,000 for tripurasundari. (0.58 seconds It has a long association with these traditions, esp. the southern seat. I gave you the link to the southern seat here it is again. Why not email the southern seat directly and ask them if the Shankaracharya there at Kanchi worships a sri yantra'?? 5). Kanchi mutt- here is the link go see if this mutt engages in worship of Sri Yantra http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/aboutpeetham.html I'm guessing what's confusing you is that they refer to it as a Sri Chakra. FYI this is synonymous with Sri Yantra. No Sir. As i pointed out to you before.., when Adi Shankara presented gifts to Devi Tripurasundari at the temple in Kanchi. He gave Her earrings as gifts the earrings were called Sri Chakra. Please check the wedsite i provided for the Southern Seat. http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/aboutpeetham.html The worship(or devotion/bhakti) of Sri Devi Tripurasundari is related to Sri Chakra, and practrised in the Kanchi mutt. The devotion/bahkti done to Sri Tripurasundari involves puja(or Arti) and homage(or prayer) and RoopDhyana(or rememberance of Her divine form) and does not involve secret rituals. The sri yantra are mandalas painted on concrete or stone or paper or made with sand-(as in the Tibetan Buddhist practice of sand mandalas) and involve a mental concentration on a yantra. Perhaps you might want to look at the description of what Adi Shankara carved into the rock there (at the Sharada temple site) Where? and what Vidyaranya installed at numerous other places. BTW, just a casual glance at itineraries shows participation in Sri Vidya rituals. Please- *Specifically Identify from those itineraries which are sri yanta rituals? I want to know what you are calling sri yantra rituals. I think you're just playing games. I think you are playing games, and attempting to get me stare at *VERY Artistic Mandalas* that my lovely wife paints on concrete for celebrations at our local Hindu temple. Are those mandalas my wife paints part of some sri yantra ritual? Maybe you should ask her? Well on occassion i assist her, as some are very large. However when the- frequent So. Indian visitors(some are pundits from the Sri Meenakshi) come to our temple they view her painted mandalas. While they comment on the significance of her manadals, they never ascribe any sort of worship to them! Just what FFL needed--another game player. Excuse me if you are actually ignorant in this area, Sir Vaj Ji, I am not ignorant. I just don't by into your whole-, tantric / shankaracharya / sri yantra secret rituals thing. I have been to 2 Shankaracharyas(1 north 1 south) and 2 living disciples of Sri BrahmanandJi Maharaj and 1 Jagadguru Acharya (my spiritual master). And, in 20 years i never heard of any secret teaching of sri yantra!!..i assure you I am not ignorant in these areas. LOL, what makes you think you'd hear of a secret teaching? LOL, What makes you think they are secret teachings?.. i can find sri yantra worship on the internet right now!! Even SBS sent ripe students elsewhere for inner instruction in Sri Vidya. Where did you find this information? I have spoken to 3 living disciples of Sri Brahmanandji-(SBS) and none of them said anything like what you claim. In fact if your are on the east coast- New York, New York you can look up a living disciple yourself- H.H. 108 Swami Vishva Hiteshji Maharaj. Its just these areas of yours are highly speculative. but it sure seems like game-playing to me! Pranams Vaj ji Most politely, it sure seems like you are a *Poser* / wannabe. And
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is there no one willing to defend Foley's right to free speech?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Alex just said he doesn't disapprove of the law per se, but I suspect he'd find the inconsistency between the federal law and the state laws absurd.) Yes, the inconsistency is absurd, and I think these kinds of laws should set the age of consent to 16. But, I accept the nature of different jurisdictions differing in their laws, and the Foley online pervert law doesn't strike me as any more absurd or draconian than previously existing laws. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmastan is so cool! (Lawwon's- Old Anoop Chandola Story)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig spare egg/Lawson English wrote: Y'know, maybe I can't read the stilted language of the Indian Courts properly, or maybe I simply can't understand your points (or both), Namaste Sir Lawson, Then please allow to clarify, and give you the gest of the tired Old Anoop Chandola Story, and the fabrications of truth contained in Swami Shantanand's book -'Om Sri Jyothirmath'. First of all: (1) Regarding the will of Sri BrahmanandJi. None of the civil lawsuits were framed around the vaildity of the will. ..Thus, none of the civil suits in this dispute seems to have been framed in terms of contesting the legal bona fides of Brahmananda's will... http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html The District Court found that Brahmanand executed the will while he was in sound disposing state of mind, that respondent No.1 being one of the nominees under the will having the prior claim would have been entitled to succeed as the Head of the Math The original lawsuit was brought by the founding trust of ashram the- Bharata Dharma Mahamandala in Swami Paratmanand's name disputing Shantanand's fitness to hold the seat, and mal- adminstration of the ashram trust. It further foundthat the allegations with respect to the breach of trust by respondent No. 1 had not been proved, As I said, one of us is misreading what the court has said... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientology In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] ho (to their credit) gave some money to a cause they believe in. HOWEVER, they *didn't* give the money anonymously or even quietly. They could have. But they didn't. What they did instead was to donate the money in such a way as to buy the right to wear flowing white robes and a crown and prance around at TMO functions as if they were important. It seems to me that *they* are the ones you have a problem with, not me. They decided they wanted to be part of the decision-making process. The only way to do that is to be a long-term, full-time TM flunky like Bevan or John, or to donate $1 million and wear a crown. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's Official: TMO Passes Scientolgy In The Weirdest Cult Sweepstakes!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: You guys ever attend court in the SCA? Sexual Compulsives Anonymous? No, how was it? http://www.sca-recovery.org/ No... http://www.sca.org/ Why did you add recovery to the web search? I didn't. I searched SCA. The term attend court should have told you that the most obvious URL was the correct one. Top 2 hits on google are society for creative anachronism. As most would find my phrasing leading to humor. But not all, apparently. Obviously. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
