[FairfieldLife] Re: Folk theory of Guru-based Spirituality

[TurquoiseB]

Great list. Jody is always good for stirring things
up. I'd be interested in how many here believe in them. 
My comments are below, to prime the pump.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:

 I disagree that some of these are folk theories.  In any event, I 
 found the list at guruphiliac:
 
 Folk Theory of Guru-Based Spirituality
 
 • Enlightenment can be transmitted supernaturally

I believe that *experience* can be transmitted.
Whether the process is supernatural or whether
the experience being transmitted is enlightenment
is an open question for me.

 • Enlightenment is the culmination of something

I don't believe this. I think it's a result of
hierarchical thinking, whereas the universe is
relational, not hierarchical. It's fascinating,
though, how many believe this without reservation.
It's also fascinating how many think that they
can kick back and not work on themselves any more
once they experience something they consider
enlightenment.

 • Enlightenment entails knowing everything

Don't believe this. But then I don't know everything. :-)

 • Enlightenment causes all thought to cease

Don't believe this. It's actually contrary to the
common definition of enlightenment. Samadhi may
be defined as the cessation of thought, but the
definition of enlightenment is samadhi *with*
thoughts and actions.

 • Enlightenment is love

Don't think I've ever heard this, much less 
believe it. Love is the middle name of actress
Jennifer Love Hewitt. How stupid would her name
sound if she billed herself as Jennifer 
Enlightenment Hewitt, right?  :-)

 • Only a guru can bestow enlightenment

Don't believe this. It's even contrary to the
anecdotal historical record. See Buddha and
Ramana Maharshi. But I like the word bestow.
It makes me think of pirates. Bestow that
bilge below decks, me hearties. Or was that
stow? Never mind. :-)

 • The guru is within yourself

And boy! does that make it hard to shop for
clothes. I believe that it's possible that the
guru is inside Bevan Morris, but that's why he
shops at Big  Tall. :-)

 • Being God means having some or all of God's powers

Especially the part about not being able to 
prove that you exist. :-)

 • Because you are God, you can affect things by thought alone

I affect things by thought alone all the time.
Some shyster on TV or in an introductory lecture
tries to sell me something, I think, That sounds
like a scam, and don't give him my money. I have
affected him. And my bank balance. :-)

 • Because you are connected to everything, you can affect things 
 by thought alone

See above. My bank balance is connected to having
learned a little something from a lifetime of
gullibility.

 • Everything is connected

And it's made of Tinkertoys. :-)

 • You are guided by a higher self

If so, it's got a white cane and is wearing dark
glasses and needs help at busy intersections. :-)

 • You create your own reality

This is the one I'm interested in how many people
here believe. I don't. I'm more of an interdependent
origination kinda guy. Reality is the intersection
of internal reality and external reality, both of
which are real, both of which exist.

 • Everything in the world is an illusion

See above. Don't believe this for an instant. As
someone once said, Knowledge is structured in 
consciousness. In some states of consciousness,
the world *appears* to be an illusion. That does
not mean it is in any other state of consciousness.
It's amazing to me how many people don't get this.

 • Divinity can be subverted by the flesh

I'm not sure what exactly is meant here by either
divinity or flesh. If Jody is trying to say
that one's divine nature can be somewhat humbled
by being covered with a ton of chicken parts and
flesh, I agree with him. If he's suggesting that
the body having impure thoughts or doing impure
things keeps its divinity away, I think that's
a crock of shit. I believe that everything is 
equally divine, and equally base. Except chicken
parts. They're icky. :-)

 • Good and evil are forces locked in an eternal struggle

And as at all title bouts, front row seats cost
a *lot*. :-) I believe that forces of creation and 
destruction interact constantly, but that's just
called entropy, or life. Good and evil are 
constructions created by human beings to express 
their preferences for some things and their fear 
of others.

 • Good always prevails

Anyone who believes this has never been in a war zone.
I have.

 • Things will be better in the future

I believe that the only thing one can realistically
say in this regard about the future is that it will
be the present when it happens, and that it won't
be all that different from this present.

 • Things were better in the past

I believe that the past was not much different from
the present, and won't be from the future. Thinking
that either is better than the present is a way to
avoid experiencing the present.

 • People and things can be holy

I believe everything is equally holy. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
   perhaps after
   all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he 
   said so!!
  
  He did.
  
  MMY: I'm just a normal human being
  Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a normal 
  human being
  
  - Vlodrop, 1999
 
 
 MMY's normal was someone in CC


A pity he never thought that any of his students
were normal. At least not enough to say so.

Doncha think?

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

[Hugo]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   
   On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:13 AM, sparaig wrote:
   
Median income for physics PHD with 20+ years of experience:
   
$125,000
   
ANd Hagelin isn't any old median physicist, despite what 
people here
like to pretend.
   
   
   He's been out of the field for how long? And with a tarnished  
   reputation for peddling pseudoscience? I'd be amazed if he 
could get  
   an entry level job.
  
  I doubt any non-TMO university would hire him at this point.
 
 
 RIght...
 
 And how many world famous theories is your name associated with
 
 
 Lawson

And how many is John Hagelin? Name just one. Or do you believe him 
when he says he's finished Einstiens work. He couldn't get a job
sweeping floors at CERN with delusions like that.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[Vaj]

On Feb 4, 2009, at 3:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@  
wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:

perhaps after
all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he
said so!!


He did.

MMY: I'm just a normal human being
Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a normal
human being

- Vlodrop, 1999



MMY's normal was someone in CC



A pity he never thought that any of his students
were normal. At least not enough to say so.

Doncha think?



If I get what Amma implies, any of the gurus known for their bad  
behavior, i.e. sex with their students, diddling young boys, etc.  
could not or would not be jivan-mukta's, i.e. in CC. So by that  
standard, ole M. was just one of many false gurus, many who were  
quite popular, but none were normal in the sense being described.

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[FairfieldLife] Wanna have a quickie?

[do.rflex]

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[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
   

On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:13 AM, sparaig wrote:

 Median income for physics PHD with 20+ years of experience:

 $125,000

 ANd Hagelin isn't any old median physicist, despite what 
 people here
 like to pretend.


He's been out of the field for how long? And with a tarnished  
reputation for peddling pseudoscience? I'd be amazed if he 
 could get  
an entry level job.
   
   I doubt any non-TMO university would hire him at this point.
  
  
  RIght...
  
  And how many world famous theories is your name associated with
  
  
  Lawson
 
 And how many is John Hagelin? Name just one. Or do you believe him 
 when he says he's finished Einstiens work. He couldn't get a job
 sweeping floors at CERN with delusions like that.



Google FLipped SU(5)...

Hagelin launched its revision and invited the others in, not the other
way around. That's how he tells the story, and to assume otherwise
is to assume that 2 world-famous guys came up with  the revision, 
then tracked down the head of the PHysics Dept at Maharishi 
International University and invited him to work with THEM because 
he was so prestigious.

So IF Flipped SU(5) ever gets verified, then yeah, excessive
rhetoric PR aside, he IS the guy who finished Einstein's work, 
though I DO cringe when I hear that phrase, myself.

L.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
   perhaps after
all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he said
 so!! 
   He did.
 
   MMY: I'm just a normal human being
   Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a normal
 human 
   being
   
   - Vlodrop, 1999
  MMY's normal was someone in CC 
  L.
 
 I think I would have to agree with Bevan, if MMY was saying he was
 normal because he was in CC, then surely that is a new definition of
 normal.


Yah, but I seem to recall that MMY made reference to CC as being 
merely normal 30-40 years ago, so the definition was hardly new.


L.

[FairfieldLife] Jain origin of mahaa-vrata's (yama's)??

[cardemaister]

http://www.sacred-texts.com/jai/5vows.txt

Five Great Vows (Maha-vratas)  (G10)01/19/93  5VOWS.A01
  Complied by Pravin K. Shah,  Jain Study Center of North Carolina

 Five Great Vows (Maha-vratas)
 -
  Right knowledge, right faith, and right conduct are the three
  most essentials for attaining liberation.

  In order to acquire these, one must observe the five great vows:

1. Non-violence  -  Ahimsa
2. Truth -  Satya
3. Non-stealing  -  Achaurya or Asteya
4. Celibacy/Chastity -  Brahmacharya
5. Non-attachment/Non-possession -  Aparigraha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Doubt -- Was Father Flynn Guilty or Innocent? SPOILER ALERT

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
 
 As you can probably tell, I liked the film Doubt. I found 
 it one of the best-written screenplays in years, and one of
 the best-directed and best-acted productions. Many reviewers

Agreed. Excellent film, many layers of doubt but without a doubt
Meryl's best performance, ever.

 have cataloged their theories about the mystery at the heart of
 the film -- was Father Flynn guilty or innocent of having an
 improper gay relationship with Donald, the young black student?

I think the priest was gay and he was attracted to a gay student.
Donald doubted his self-worth which was reinforced by a father who
beat him for gay tendencies and kids from his previous school who
picked on him, and perhaps beat him for being gay. Donald told Flynn
he wanted to be a priest. He identified with Flynn. Flynn knew Donald
was a troubled kid, felt compassion for him and it may or may not have
evolved into intimate contact. 

The only possible clue they may have been intimate was Flynn
surreptitiously returning Donald's undershirt to his locker. Flynn had
summoned Donald to meet him in the sacristy. Was it a meeting for a
confrontation or a tryst? Is that where Donald left his undershirt?
Had he been trying on vestments as well as drinking sacramental wine?
I'll have to see the scene again, but when Sister Ann confronted Flynn
about the undershirt, he blew her off and left her doubting his
innocence, even though Flynn thought the matter settled in his favor. 
 
 This question has been made *more* of a question as a result
 of the writer and director saying once that he told only the 
 actor playing Father Flynn the answer to the question. NO 
 ONE knows the real answer except for Shanley and those 
 actors. So anything I write here about my theory is just 
 that -- a theory. It has no relationship to truth, any more 
 than any of the theories of the nuns in the film about his 
 guilt or innocence did.
 
 The three possibilities have been cataloged in the press, and
 here on this forum:
 
 1. FF could be guilty of wrongful actions in the present, in
 the form of having had an improper relationship with Donald,
 and acting upon it.
 
 2. FF could be innocent in the present of any wrong actions,
 but guilty of similar infractions in his past.
 
 3. FF could be innocent of all charges, both in the present 
 and in the past, and be the innocent victim of Sister Aloysius'
 obsession and misplaced zeal to right wrongs, even if they
 never happened anywhere but inside her head.
 
 My theory is a variant of Door Number Three. It's based on 
 a theme I found throughout the film -- parallelism.
 
 Throughout the film, we see the same actions and words being
 echoed over and over. The closing of windows, white things 
 fluttering in the wind. The same speeches being delivered, by
 different characters and in different contexts. So, with this 
 obvious and intentional parallelism in mind, think about one 
 more possible parallel:
 
 3a. What if Father Flynn is like Donald?
 
 Donald's mother says that he has homosexual tendencies, but
 has never acted on them. What if Father Flynn is exactly the
 same?

I don't recall that Donald's mother said he never acted on his
homosexual tendencies. It was more like she suspected it, accepted it
but didn't know or want to know.

 Parallelism. Donald is self conscious, and asks, Do you think
 I'm fat?, hoping *that* is the reason the other students are 
 looking at him. He's afraid that his classmates perceive him 
 as being as different as he feels inside. Father Flynn keeps 
 making excuses for his habit of wearing his fingernails long, 
 and well-manicured. When Sister Aloysius and he finally have 
 their final confrontation, the main thing he wants to know is 
 another parallelism. She browbeats young Sister Anne by repeat-
 ing, What have you *seen*? That is exactly what Father Flynn 
 wants to know, too. When asked why, he shouts, Because I want 
 to *know*!
 
 What if he really is just like Donald, a person with homosexual
 tendencies, but (like Donald) someone who has never acted on
 them, and has done his best to be a good priest, and to help the
 people in his care? But what if (like Donald), he lives with the
 everpresent fear that someone will see inside him, to the 
 thing he's never acted upon? 
 
 My theory is mine because I think this explanation is the one 
 that best explains all the facts presented onscreen and the body
 language of Philip Seymour Hoffman in portraying Father Flynn. It 
 explains his anguish. It explains his concern about the things 
 that Sister Aloysius may have *seen*, and that led her to believe 
 that he was gay. It explains his decision to leave that church 
 and go to another one. But most of all, it explains his obvious 
 compassion.
 
 Father Flynn -- *whatever* his actions -- is a compassionate being.
 More than anyone else in the play except possibly Sister Anne, he
 is driven by an 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[BillyG.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Feb 4, 2009, at 3:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@  
  wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
  perhaps after
  all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he
  said so!!
 
  He did.
 
  MMY: I'm just a normal human being
  Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a normal
  human being
 
  - Vlodrop, 1999
 
 
  MMY's normal was someone in CC
 
 
  A pity he never thought that any of his students
  were normal. At least not enough to say so.
 
  Doncha think?
 
 
 If I get what Amma implies, any of the gurus known for their bad  
 behavior, i.e. sex with their students, diddling young boys, etc.  
 could not or would not be jivan-mukta's, i.e. in CC. So by that  
 standard, ole M. was just one of many false gurus, many who were  
 quite popular, but none were normal in the sense being described.

True, but the evidence is so sketchy it hardly holds up, a few
accusations here and there over a 50+ year period is pretty much par
for the course these days. If he was a sexual predator surely there
would have been many victims, yet it's hard to prove even one!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[enlightened_dawn11]

that was the point of the Maharishi showing up-- he was here to do 
anything but continue the tired old standards of normalcy, the very 
low bar that granted normalcy to anyone with a pulse. he understood 
that the stressed out nervous systems of the world needed something 
refreshing to attain. normalcy then became what it is, clean 
functioning.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
   perhaps after
all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he 
said
 so!! 
   He did.
 
   MMY: I'm just a normal human being
   Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a 
normal
 human 
   being
   
   - Vlodrop, 1999
  MMY's normal was someone in CC 
  L.
 
 I think I would have to agree with Bevan, if MMY was saying he was
 normal because he was in CC, then surely that is a new definition 
of
 normal.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[enlightened_dawn11]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
perhaps after
all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he 
said so!!
   
   He did.
   
   MMY: I'm just a normal human being
   Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a 
normal 
   human being
   
   - Vlodrop, 1999
  
  
  MMY's normal was someone in CC
 
 
 A pity he never thought that any of his students
 were normal. At least not enough to say so.
 
 Doncha think?

who needs a teacher once CC is reached? only a seeker of CC stays 
with a teacher.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Doubt -- Was Father Flynn Guilty or Innocent? SPOILER ALERT

[TurquoiseB]

SPOILERS BELOW

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
  As you can probably tell, I liked the film Doubt. I found 
  it one of the best-written screenplays in years, and one of
  the best-directed and best-acted productions. Many reviewers
 
 Agreed. Excellent film, many layers of doubt but without a doubt
 Meryl's best performance, ever.

I agree. Thanks for commenting, but you should probably
have added some SPOILER warnings. 

  have cataloged their theories about the mystery at the heart of
  the film -- was Father Flynn guilty or innocent of having an
  improper gay relationship with Donald, the young black student?
 
 I think the priest was gay and he was attracted to a gay student.
 Donald doubted his self-worth which was reinforced by a father who
 beat him for gay tendencies and kids from his previous school who
 picked on him, and perhaps beat him for being gay. Donald told Flynn
 he wanted to be a priest. He identified with Flynn. Flynn knew 
 Donald was a troubled kid, felt compassion for him and it may or 
 may not have evolved into intimate contact. 
 
 The only possible clue they may have been intimate was Flynn
 surreptitiously returning Donald's undershirt to his locker. Flynn 
 had summoned Donald to meet him in the sacristy. Was it a meeting 
 for a confrontation or a tryst? Is that where Donald left his 
 undershirt? Had he been trying on vestments as well as drinking 
 sacramental wine?

It could have been left there from the first scene
in the film, in which Donald is there changing to
be an altar boy, or from any other time that he 
served as altar boy and had to change. There is 
nothing indicating it was left there when he was 
later called to the rectory.

Shanley is a master at allowing the viewer to stop
at one easy interpretation of something, but later
present that viewer with other, equally valid options.

 I'll have to see the scene again, but when Sister Ann confronted 
 Flynn about the undershirt, he blew her off ...

Which he would have done if he were innocent. Remember,
at that point he had no idea that anyone's suspicions
had been aroused by Sister Aloysius poisoning the well.

 ...and left her doubting his innocence, even though Flynn thought 
 the matter settled in his favor. 

He didn't even know that there was a matter TO be
settled. Again, remember at this point the only
person who has had her mind poisoned by doubts is
Sister Anne. Father Flynn is unaware of those doubts.
 
  This question has been made *more* of a question as a result
  of the writer and director saying once that he told only the 
  actor playing Father Flynn the answer to the question. NO 
  ONE knows the real answer except for Shanley and those 
  actors. So anything I write here about my theory is just 
  that -- a theory. It has no relationship to truth, any more 
  than any of the theories of the nuns in the film about his 
  guilt or innocence did.
  
  The three possibilities have been cataloged in the press, and
  here on this forum:
  
  1. FF could be guilty of wrongful actions in the present, in
  the form of having had an improper relationship with Donald,
  and acting upon it.
  
  2. FF could be innocent in the present of any wrong actions,
  but guilty of similar infractions in his past.
  
  3. FF could be innocent of all charges, both in the present 
  and in the past, and be the innocent victim of Sister Aloysius'
  obsession and misplaced zeal to right wrongs, even if they
  never happened anywhere but inside her head.
  
  My theory is a variant of Door Number Three. It's based on 
  a theme I found throughout the film -- parallelism.
  
  Throughout the film, we see the same actions and words being
  echoed over and over. The closing of windows, white things 
  fluttering in the wind. The same speeches being delivered, by
  different characters and in different contexts. So, with this 
  obvious and intentional parallelism in mind, think about one 
  more possible parallel:
  
  3a. What if Father Flynn is like Donald?
  
  Donald's mother says that he has homosexual tendencies, but
  has never acted on them. What if Father Flynn is exactly the
  same?
 
 I don't recall that Donald's mother said he never acted on his
 homosexual tendencies. 

She did.

 It was more like she suspected it, accepted it
 but didn't know or want to know.

No, she said it explicitly. It's his nature, 
Sister, not anything he's done.

I'm not trying to be superior here or push for my
theory (it's *just* a theory), only to say that I 
had to watch the film five times to catch all of
this. Fortunately, it's one of those rare films
that gets better every time you see it. :-)

I'll snip the rest but repost this excerpt from 
the interview with Shanley himself, because it's 
not only relevant to the film, but to Fairfield 
Life:

  ''And still another reason I wrote this play is that I'm very 
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[Kirk]

 who needs a teacher once CC is reached? only a seeker of CC stays
 with a teacher.



I had some clear CC experiences a few times.  Back when I was a kid. 
They are what led me to start work with the energies, and they happened 
before I did TM.  They showed me where to go and what to work on.  Those 
experiences were the guru. But then one can say the development of states 
beyond this bring greater interelatedness, so it's almost certain that some 
guru will be in the environment when one has moved towards unity.  Even if 
its only Guru Datta in the Gap in his bright blue formless form. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Doubt -- Was Father Flynn Guilty or Innocent? SPOILER ALERT

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 I'll snip the rest but repost this excerpt from 
 the interview with Shanley himself, because it's 
 not only relevant to the film, but to Fairfield 
 Life:
 
   ''And still another reason I wrote this play is that I'm very 
   aware that debate has become the form of communication, like 
   on 'Crossfire.' There is no room or value placed on doubt, 
   which is one of the hallmarks of the wise man. It's getting 
   harder and harder in this society to find a place for spacious, 
   true intellectual exchange. It's all becoming about who won 
   the argument, which is just moronic.''

Thing is, debate and spacious, true intellectual
exchange are not mutually exclusive. It's really
only people who have a terrible fear of being
*wrong* who resist the notion of certainty and
insist that everything is open to questioning and
doubt.

There's nothing inherently wrong with certainty, and
there's nothing inherently wrong with doubt, each in
its appropriate circumstance. What's problematic is
trying to make either one an absolute.

[FairfieldLife] Re: California is Broke!

[grate . swan]

No. Research has shown that cannabis is a gateway drug leading to
bizarre  and dangerous practices such as meditation and yoga. Compared
to the % of hard drug users who started with pot, a significantly
higher percentage of meditators report having used cannabis prior to
migrating on to the harder stuff -- like meditation -- of which there
are many reports of people becoming permanently high from the practice 

The world doesn't need more spaced-out zombie meditators and their
contact high social coherence programs. Keep the ban on cannabis
before too many people get hooked on unbounded awareness.

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 Hey, idea here:  Since CA has successfully -- for the most part --
 spit in the face of the Feds about the marijuana laws for years, how's
 'bout CA passing legalization finally to get the state's cash crop
 producing tax revenues?  They could charge the same street price and
 pocket most of the profits instead of, you know, 10 Mexican-mafiosos
 and one white guy getting all the middleman profits.
 
 They've softened up the Feds who now only do token raids in CA.
 
 I'm told that in CA there's a sprinkling of vending machines on the
 street that'll dispense the dope right there to ya even if a cop is
 standing next to you who'll do nothing.
 
 So that's pretty in-your-face, right now, and legalization would only
 seem to be a bit more.  I guess Prop 15ers can have about three
 pounds of the stuff at any moment whereas even a seed in other states
 has at times put folks away for LIFE.
 
 With Obama and Phelps being the most recent high profilers who have
 added even more legitimacy to the use, it looks to be a done deal if
 Schwartzy goes for ithimself a once-upon-a-time-user.
 
 The bad news:  if passed, the law will draw all the smokers to CA and
 there's goes the whole west coast into the drink from the added weight.
 
 Edg
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  Fairfield Lifer wrote:
   On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
 
   Fairfield Lifer wrote:
   
   On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@
 
   wrote:
   
 
   The first big shoe of the Republican Great Depression falls.  
 Things
   are about to get interesting here.
  
  
   
  

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/California_goes_broke_halts_3.5_billion_0202.html
   
   
   Come now.  This is Obama's watch.  It's the Democratic Great
 Depression.
   We've named problems after the current administration before.
 
   LOL!  Nope all the result of 30 years of Reaganomics.  Obama has
 nothing
   to do with it.  I don't recall that the Great Depression of the
 1930's
   was named The Democratic Great Depression.  It too had to do
with bad
   Republican policies.  Trickle down just made us all peons.
   
  
  
   A foreigner pegged it really well on Slashdot.org in a discussion
 on H1Bs.
   Year after year the US kept preaching free trade.  Year after year
 it was a
   race to the bottom. Give up protection of your economy in favor of
 the free
   flow of commerce.  Each step along the way a new country became
 poorer.
   Finally it's the US's turn to visit the bottom.
  
   It was so gradual in the US that people just didn't seem to
 notice. Both
   parents had to work to keep the household afloat where before they
 didn't.
   Actually, it was packaged masterfully.  Packaged in terms of
 womens rights
   and feminism.  It wasn't that women /had/  to work, though really
 they did,
   it was that they had to be fulfilled as women and have the same
 rights as
   men.  And men worked.
  
   Now comes the flood of posts proclaiming that the US should not be
 richer
   than other nations. If there are poor subsistence farmers in India
 or Africa
   then the US should not expect to have the economy it used to have.
 Share the
   poverty.  Except of course of the monied class.  Predictable as
 Spring rain.
  The US is 7% of the worlds population and yet consumed 25% of the
it's 
  resources.  The bill had to become due sometime.   But we lived
high on 
  the hog, bought gas guzzling cars and monster homes because we
could 
  when people should have bought within their means.  We may just
wind up 
  living in a simpler world somewhat resembling the 1970s but with
 some of 
  the technology we've created in the meantimes.  Yup, free trade
simply 
  meant the rich pillaging and plundering so they could still be
kings of 
  the hill.  Bastards.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas

[enlightened_dawn11]

i also have found it easy at times in my life to lose focus on what 
is directly in front of me, and let my thirst for greater spirtual 
presence to blind me to my daily responsibilities. a dear friend of 
mine sometimes reminds me to just be where i am. it is great advice. 
there is not actual difference between what i can do from an 
ordinary perspective, and engaging in a lot of mystical practices. 
and the results, whatever they may be, speak for themselves.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... 
wrote:

 A couple years ago I was heavily involved in pujas and yajnas.  
 
 I had a theory which I tried to prove correct or incorrect to 
myself. I spent 10,000 bucks of my own money, during already 
stretched financial times so as to prove the strength of my 
intention to see the thing through.  I sought teachers who could 
perform rituals with fire offering. In Hindu it's called Homam, in 
Buddha it's called Jinsek. I had perhaps as many as three hundred 
jinseks and homams performed. 
 
 One thing I tried to do at times was aim a yajna at someone. Not 
anything malefic, but instead, something positive, so as to liberate 
circumstances of the times.
 
 Well let me tell you all that the Bush administration had me 
paranoid. I had gotten my wife pregnant and I was going to be a 
father. I decided to aim my intention for a better world at those 
who had tried to control and fuck it up. So I would have small 
homams done at various temples in that person's name.  Let's say, 
George Bush Jr may have had Pratyangira Devi performed on his behalf 
many times for bringing peace to the world. 
 
 We miscarried, not once but twice, and being at the end of our 
fruitful years I fell headlong into my mid life crisis. Now knowing 
that we would be fruitless. Having lost my best job ever, I was 
unable to continue the puja/yajna test.  
 
 Which was probably for the best as a piece of advice I had from 
one fine teacher was that when having yajnas done one should stick 
with one troupe for a series of time. I have found this to be true 
as the attention of different groups often conflicts with others. To 
maintain clarity it's best to stay true to one group of ritualists 
at a time. 
 
 There's no telling of outcome, suffice it to say that due to 
influence of a lama I know I honed my intention from doing yajna 
with New Orleans, or Louisiana as beneficiary, to having yajnas 
performed from all beings for all beings benefit.  
 
 This last, the Bodhisattva intention to benefit all beings, may 
all beings be happy, so I started doing yajnas not selfishly at all 
any longer but selflessly.  A few times I knew a peace of mind that 
surpassed anything I had ever felt before. 
 
 Then the yajnas wore off and I went strictly back to personal 
practice.  That was the best thing of all, was just personal 
practice. It's easy to forget how important personal practice is 
when one is getting pumped through yajnas. 
 
 At any rate, as we all do when we patronize various puja and yajna 
sites from the net, we create the market for these things. And then 
the price raises. So I knew that my intentions and yajnas as unknown 
as they might have been by the world at large I felt that few people 
would ever again in all of history would walk my footsteps. Price, 
facility, and intention came together for a short while.  I was able 
to have my intentions spoken before the eternal.  I was truely a 
magician!
 
 Okay, so, so much to say, so little in the way of words to write 
it. Does anyone have any issues with what I've written? Signed Kirk 
B - trying to benefit others whether they like it or not. I 
reiterate and guarentee to all that my intentions and motives were 
all to benefit other beings.  
 
 I wish I could have done yajnas for selfish things like personal 
riches, but I simply couldn't considering the state of affairs of 
the world. But it's still my belief that the institutor of the rite, 
that is, the person paying, their intentions are what is weighted 
ultimately, especially if the price of the ceremony is a personal 
sacrifice.  And it is important to clarify the samkalpam and make it 
as broad reaching and open and aimed to benefit as many as is 
possible. 
 
 For instance I had Mahamritunjaya done for tha Dalai Lama and 
other lamas of mine.  For longevity.  Does anyone see anything right 
or wrong with this sort of thinking? Thanks for reading. Thanks 
moreso for commenting.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[enlightened_dawn11]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  
  On Feb 4, 2009, at 3:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
no_reply@  
   wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ 
wrote:
   perhaps after
   all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he
   said so!!
  
   He did.
  
   MMY: I'm just a normal human being
   Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a 
normal
   human being
  
   - Vlodrop, 1999
  
  
   MMY's normal was someone in CC
  
  
   A pity he never thought that any of his students
   were normal. At least not enough to say so.
  
   Doncha think?
  
  
  If I get what Amma implies, any of the gurus known for their 
bad  
  behavior, i.e. sex with their students, diddling young boys, 
etc.  
  could not or would not be jivan-mukta's, i.e. in CC. So by that  
  standard, ole M. was just one of many false gurus, many who 
were  
  quite popular, but none were normal in the sense being 
described.
 
 True, but the evidence is so sketchy it hardly holds up, a few
 accusations here and there over a 50+ year period is pretty much 
par
 for the course these days. If he was a sexual predator surely there
 would have been many victims, yet it's hard to prove even one!

you must have figured out by now BillyG that Vaj has -anything- but 
reality in mind when evaluating the demon Maharishi- lol. Vaj 
projects all of his failures and unhappiness on the guy.

[FairfieldLife] Blue Band is coming.please pass this along to your friends!

[Rick Archer]

From: Deeg d...@lisco.com
Subject: Blue Band is coming.please pass this along to your friends!
To: denise Gallagher d...@lisco.com
Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 5:40 PM

This coming Valentines Day, yes, Saturday Feb. 14, the Hospital is having a
fundraiser to benefit it's new mammography center. My favorite Iowa dance
band is coming as the evening's entertainment. I won't bore you with the
details about what a great horn section they have, or how super talented
their Gibson Flying V Guitarist is, or how when I close my eyes, I swear Bob
Dorr has morphed into Wilson Pickett. 

Suffice it to say, I am willing to drive often 2 hours to go hear this group
perform partly since I'm nuts, partly since these musicians have a way of
making every gig feel like you've gathered a bunch of friends to 'get down'
in your basement but most of all, because no matter what mood I'm in, I
always feel like dancing as soon as I hear their music.  For all you swing
dancers, many of their songs are great for swing and or lindy moves. Think
of a song like Sam Cooke's We're Havin' a Party. Go listen to the tunes on
their website (www.theblueband.com http://www.theblueband.com/ ) but
believe me, there is nothing like hearing this group live.

 

OK, I know it's hard to imagine that the Civic Center could actually be a
great place to boogie, swing, or cut the rug but it is! As far as acoustics,
don't confuse this with the pavilion room. What they do is open a smaller
room that spills on to the atrium. It is laid with an ample wood dance
floor, and the sound system is just fine. I don't really understand why they
are calling this hors d'oeurves since it is a huge buffet spread of food
that includes meat, vegetarian selections, veggies, fruit platters, and lots
of truelly sinful desserts.

 

here's the details:

the evening starts at 7:00, the band comes on at 8:30

Tickets in advance are $30 single and $50 a pair. At the door, they are $35
single and $60 a pair. Please don't be fooled into thinking you need to
actually be a couple to get this price! I'm going with my married
girlfriend. Be sure to buy the tickets ahead of time, at the hospital front
desk, Adela's, Finishing Touch, Yummy's and at
www.JeffersonCountyHealthCenter.org
http://www.jeffersoncountyhealthcenter.org/ . 

I will be purchasing some tickets. Please come forward if you want to come
but can't manage the price, since I am willing to help you out with the
cost. I want this night to be a blast, so please join me and come dance the
night away for a good cause.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Doubt -- Was Father Flynn Guilty or Innocent? SPOILER ALERT

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  I'll snip the rest but repost this excerpt from 
  the interview with Shanley himself, because it's 
  not only relevant to the film, but to Fairfield 
  Life:
  
''And still another reason I wrote this play is that I'm very 
aware that debate has become the form of communication, like 
on 'Crossfire.' There is no room or value placed on doubt, 
which is one of the hallmarks of the wise man. It's getting 
harder and harder in this society to find a place for 
spacious, true intellectual exchange. It's all becoming about 
who won the argument, which is just moronic.''
 
 Thing is, debate and spacious, true intellectual
 exchange are not mutually exclusive. It's really
 only people who have a terrible fear of being
 *wrong* who resist the notion of certainty and
 insist that everything is open to questioning and
 doubt.
 
 There's nothing inherently wrong with certainty, and
 there's nothing inherently wrong with doubt, each in
 its appropriate circumstance. What's problematic is
 trying to make either one an absolute.


Perhaps I was wrong last night when I suggested
that surely no one on this forum could ever 
mistake the character that Meryl Streep plays 
in the film for our own Ms. Stein.  :-)

The same claim that there is nothing wrong with
certainty is there. The same ignorance that cer-
tainty is an *emotion* is there. And the same 
fear of and resistance to the idea that everything 
is NOT open to questioning and doubt is there. 

Plus, there is the physical resemblance:

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/Brody675/Streep-DOUBT.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/1624549388/name/n_a

And, y'know...although it never came up in the
film, I would just bet that Sister Aloysius was
the kinda gal who would be *so* certain of things
that she would feel compelled to comment about a 
movie she'd never seen. And do it more than once. 

:-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[BillyG.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
  perhaps after
   all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he said
so!! 
  He did.

  MMY: I'm just a normal human being
  Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a normal
human 
  being
  
  - Vlodrop, 1999
 MMY's normal was someone in CC 
 L.

I think I would have to agree with Bevan, if MMY was saying he was
normal because he was in CC, then surely that is a new definition of
normal.

[FairfieldLife] Norbu Webcast

[Kirk]

I just received word that the awesome teaching coming up doesn't require a 
password to listen to.  It's also free. People please check it out.

The retreat on Lama Yeshes Khadro'i Thugthig
The Essence of the Heart of Guru Jñanadhâkkini  simple practice of Guru 
Jñanadhâkkini - Longsal Retreat 
held by Choegyal Namkhai Norbu 

will be transmitted in OPEN webcast starting 
Monday 9 Feb. at 16:00 (4:00 PM) Australia time. 
Subsequent sessions from Feb. 10th to Feb. 15th will go in webcast every day at 
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The retreat will end on Feb. 15th at 12 AM.

You can find out your own local time using the time converter here:
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This Webcast is OPEN (no password required for audio connections).

Updated URLs and instructions on how to connect are found here:
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always find the webcast calendar, updated schedule and information.
Check it out regularly!

All the best,

The Webcast Team 15/12/2008

[FairfieldLife] Re: Doubt -- Was Father Flynn Guilty or Innocent? SPOILER ALERT

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  snip
   I'll snip the rest but repost this excerpt from 
   the interview with Shanley himself, because it's 
   not only relevant to the film, but to Fairfield 
   Life:
   
 ''And still another reason I wrote this play is that I'm 
very 
 aware that debate has become the form of communication, 
like 
 on 'Crossfire.' There is no room or value placed on doubt, 
 which is one of the hallmarks of the wise man. It's getting 
 harder and harder in this society to find a place for 
 spacious, true intellectual exchange. It's all becoming 
about 
 who won the argument, which is just moronic.''
  
  Thing is, debate and spacious, true intellectual
  exchange are not mutually exclusive. It's really
  only people who have a terrible fear of being
  *wrong* who resist the notion of certainty and
  insist that everything is open to questioning and
  doubt.
  
  There's nothing inherently wrong with certainty, and
  there's nothing inherently wrong with doubt, each in
  its appropriate circumstance. What's problematic is
  trying to make either one an absolute.
 
 Perhaps I was wrong last night when I suggested
 that surely no one on this forum could ever 
 mistake the character that Meryl Streep plays 
 in the film for our own Ms. Stein.  :-)

Uh-huh. Would she have said what I just did about
there being nothing inherently wrong with doubt?

I doubt it.

 The same claim that there is nothing wrong with
 certainty is there. The same ignorance that cer-
 tainty is an *emotion* is there.

Certainty and doubt are *both* emotions.

 And the same 
 fear of and resistance to the idea that everything 
 is NOT open to questioning and doubt is there.

Let me put it another way, since it appears you
missed my point completely: Some things are certain;
others are open to questioning and doubt. *Different*
things. 

 Plus, there is the physical resemblance:
 
 http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/Brody675/Streep-DOUBT.jpg
 
 http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/1624549388/name/n_a
 
 And, y'know...although it never came up in the
 film, I would just bet that Sister Aloysius was
 the kinda gal who would be *so* certain of things
 that she would feel compelled to comment about a 
 movie she'd never seen. And do it more than once. 

My only comment about the movie itself, as Barry
knows, was qualified by an explicit statement that
if the descriptions I had read of it were in error,
then my observations would likely be in error as
well.

Three strikes, Barry, yer out *again*.

For sure.

[FairfieldLife] Doubt -- Was Father Flynn Guilty or Innocent? SPOILER ALERT

[TurquoiseB]

[ This is a post for folks who have seen the film. So far 
on this forum, that seems to include only Raunchydog, do.rflex,
and myself. In past writings about this film, I have tried very
carefully to not post anything that might spoil a potential 
viewer's innocent appreciation of the film, and have focused on
saying things that might enhance it. This rap falls into a 
different category. If you haven't seen the film, I suggest
that you put off reading this post until after you have seen it.
Or, don't bother to read it at all, as with so many other of my
posts. :-) ]

SPOILER ALERT -- scroll down for content -- SPOILER ALERT























As you can probably tell, I liked the film Doubt. I found 
it one of the best-written screenplays in years, and one of
the best-directed and best-acted productions. Many reviewers
have cataloged their theories about the mystery at the heart of
the film -- was Father Flynn guilty or innocent of having an
improper gay relationship with Donald, the young black student?

This question has been made *more* of a question as a result
of the writer and director saying once that he told only the 
actor playing Father Flynn the answer to the question. NO 
ONE knows the real answer except for Shanley and those 
actors. So anything I write here about my theory is just 
that -- a theory. It has no relationship to truth, any more 
than any of the theories of the nuns in the film about his 
guilt or innocence did.

The three possibilities have been cataloged in the press, and
here on this forum:

1. FF could be guilty of wrongful actions in the present, in
the form of having had an improper relationship with Donald,
and acting upon it.

2. FF could be innocent in the present of any wrong actions,
but guilty of similar infractions in his past.

3. FF could be innocent of all charges, both in the present 
and in the past, and be the innocent victim of Sister Aloysius'
obsession and misplaced zeal to right wrongs, even if they
never happened anywhere but inside her head.

My theory is a variant of Door Number Three. It's based on 
a theme I found throughout the film -- parallelism.

Throughout the film, we see the same actions and words being
echoed over and over. The closing of windows, white things 
fluttering in the wind. The same speeches being delivered, by
different characters and in different contexts. So, with this 
obvious and intentional parallelism in mind, think about one 
more possible parallel:

3a. What if Father Flynn is like Donald?

Donald's mother says that he has homosexual tendencies, but
has never acted on them. What if Father Flynn is exactly the
same?

Parallelism. Donald is self conscious, and asks, Do you think
I'm fat?, hoping *that* is the reason the other students are 
looking at him. He's afraid that his classmates perceive him 
as being as different as he feels inside. Father Flynn keeps 
making excuses for his habit of wearing his fingernails long, 
and well-manicured. When Sister Aloysius and he finally have 
their final confrontation, the main thing he wants to know is 
another parallelism. She browbeats young Sister Anne by repeat-
ing, What have you *seen*? That is exactly what Father Flynn 
wants to know, too. When asked why, he shouts, Because I want 
to *know*!

What if he really is just like Donald, a person with homosexual
tendencies, but (like Donald) someone who has never acted on
them, and has done his best to be a good priest, and to help the
people in his care? But what if (like Donald), he lives with the
everpresent fear that someone will see inside him, to the 
thing he's never acted upon? 

My theory is mine because I think this explanation is the one 
that best explains all the facts presented onscreen and the body
language of Philip Seymour Hoffman in portraying Father Flynn. It 
explains his anguish. It explains his concern about the things 
that Sister Aloysius may have *seen*, and that led her to believe 
that he was gay. It explains his decision to leave that church 
and go to another one. But most of all, it explains his obvious 
compassion.

Father Flynn -- *whatever* his actions -- is a compassionate being.
More than anyone else in the play except possibly Sister Anne, he
is driven by an understanding of other people and a desire to help
them. Sister Aloysius is not, and she does not fully understand
why and how he is. When Father Flynn asks her, Where is your
compassion? her response is as cold as her heart: Nowhere you
can get at it!

But Father Flynn's compassion is on his sleeve. He really *does*
care about these kids, and about fragile Sister Anne. He even cares
about Sister Aloysius, the woman who is trying to destroy his career
in the Church and put an end to his calling as a priest. 

The film is dedicated to the real Sister Anne, one of John Patrick
Shanley's teachers when *he* attended Catholic schools, in the very 
era in which the film is set. He credits her with having to some 
extent saved his life by being 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[enlightened_dawn11]

thanks for the clarification Kirk-- i should have said, who needs a 
teacher once the state of CC is permanent?...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... 
wrote:

 
 
  who needs a teacher once CC is reached? only a seeker of CC stays
  with a teacher.
 
 
 
 I had some clear CC experiences a few times.  Back when I was 
a kid. 
 They are what led me to start work with the energies, and they 
happened 
 before I did TM.  They showed me where to go and what to work on.  
Those 
 experiences were the guru. But then one can say the development of 
states 
 beyond this bring greater interelatedness, so it's almost certain 
that some 
 guru will be in the environment when one has moved towards unity.  
Even if 
 its only Guru Datta in the Gap in his bright blue formless form.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas

[Kirk]

Sure grate.swan, I feel you. Well after that year my life collapsed as far 
as dreams and ambitions go and sometimes I will now just be doing absolutely 
nothing with nothing in mind to do. I had crashed, and as a friend of mine 
puts it, gone through the bottom. I am still bottoming out too most 
likely. People ask me often what's going on, and I always say, totally 
nothing! I have ceased to live for meaning and live really for the moment.

I have to thank my wife for her support which has kept me going through all 
these years when I have never really fit into society and the every day work 
force. I also want to thank my unique few friends in NOLA for having also 
nothing to do and so being able to hang out. Shout out to the local lama for 
also just hanging around with nothing in mind to do especially. And then I 
praise this group which altogether takes on the characteristic of 'friend.' 
FFLife takes on the sense of nagging spiritual subconscious in the back of 
my mind.

I want to do iboga treatment under the care of a Bwiti tribesman. But for 
lack of a plane ticket could anyone from outside the US who can buy ibogaine 
for me and mail it to me? Like a Canadian?  Please PM me if you would help. 
I will keep our correspondence entirely secret.  Let me know.

- Original Message - 
From: enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:17 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas


i also have found it easy at times in my life to lose focus on what
 is directly in front of me, and let my thirst for greater spirtual
 presence to blind me to my daily responsibilities. a dear friend of
 mine sometimes reminds me to just be where i am. it is great advice.
 there is not actual difference between what i can do from an
 ordinary perspective, and engaging in a lot of mystical practices.
 and the results, whatever they may be, speak for themselves. 

[FairfieldLife] Science flies you to the moon

[Alex Stanley]

http://media.richarddawkins.net/images/2009/victor-stenger-bus.jpg

[FairfieldLife] A Mother's Love

[Arhata Osho]

 A
little boy came up to his mother in the kitchen one evening while she
was fixing supper, and handed her a piece of paper that he had been
writing on. After his Mom dried her hands on an apron, she read it, and
this is what it said:  
For  cutting the grass: $5.00
For cleaning up my room this week: $1.00
For  going to the store for you: $.50
Baby-sitting my kid brother while you went  shopping: $.25
Taking out the garbage: $1.00
For getting a good report  card: $5.00
For cleaning up and raking the yard: $2.00
Total owed:  $14.75  
Well,his
mother looked at him standing there, and the boy could see the memories
flashing through her mind. She picked up the pen, turned over the paper
he'd written on, and this is what she wrote:  
For  the nine months I carried you while you were growing inside me:
No Charge   For  all the nights that I've sat up with you, doctored and prayed 
for you:
No 
 Charge  For  all the trying times, and all the tears that you've caused 
through the years: 
No Charge  For  all the nights that were filled with dread, and for the worries 
I knew were  ahead:
No Charge  For 
 the toys, food, clothes, and even wiping your nose:
No Charge   Son,  when you add it up, the cost of my love is:
No Charge.  
When
the boy finished reading what his mother had written, there were big
tears in his eyes, and he looked straight at his mother and said, Mom,
I sure do love you. And then he took the pen and in great big letter
she wrote: PAID IN FULL.  
http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/


  

[FairfieldLife] Iran: Another urban myth

[Arhata Osho]

Anand Utsav sent a mail to many  with 
the subject unbelievable! !!
 
An 8 years old child was caught in a market in 
Iran for stealing bread.
In the name of Islam he is being punished, his 
arm will be crushed by a car.
He will loose forever the possibility to use his 
arm again.
Is this a religion of peace and 
love?
 
The horrible pictures are on YouTube
 
An Atrocious Crime
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=9htpx1N2qco
 
 
Unbelievable? indeed! 
Only a little reasearch shows, it is nothing but an urban 
legend.
But people are ready to believe anything, 
especially about Islam and Iran.
There are already enough splits in the 
world. No need to create even more.
 
 
Comments: The preceding images are apparently 
authentic -- they were published as such in 2005 on the Iranian news Web site 
Peyke Iran, at any rate -- but the accompanying caption doesn't jibe with the 
original report and was clearly fabricated after the fact.
 
According to a Peyke Iran spokesperson who 
corrected the record last November in a note posted on Little Green Footballs, 
the young boy whose arm was run over was not being punished for a crime. He was 
part of a Maareke giry or street magic act and allegedly performed the stunt 
for money (note the gentleman speaking into a microphone in image #1). The 
seventh and eighth pictures in the series, which appear to show the child 
shaken 
but otherwise unharmed after the ordeal, were omitted from the email flier but 
can still be viewed on Peykeiran.com (where all the images are attributed to 
photographer Siamak Yari).
 
From http://urbanlegends .about.com/ library/bl_ caught_stealing_ bread.htm
 
 
See also http://www.snopes. com/photos/ gruesome/ crushboy. asp
Here the missing last picture can be 
seen.
 
 
 
 
 

  




 

















  

[FairfieldLife] Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?

[Vaj]

From the excellent article by David Frawley Misconceptions about  
Advaita, First published in the Mountain Path of the Sri Ramanashram  
LINK


Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?

One of the main areas of difference of opinion is relative to who can  
practice Advaita and to what degree? What are the prerequisites for  
Self-inquiry? Some people believe that Advaita has no prerequisites,  
but can be taken up by anyone, under any circumstances, regardless of  
their background or life-style. After all, Advaita is just teaching  
us to rest in our true nature, which is always there for everyone.  
Why should that rest on any outer aids or requirements? This is a  
particularly appealing idea in the age of democracy, when all people  
are supposed to be equal.


In much of neo-Advaita, the idea of prerequisites on the part of the  
student or the teacher is not discussed. Speaking to general  
audiences in the West, some neo-Advaitic teachers give the impression  
that one can practice Advaita along with an affluent life-style and  
little modification of one’s personal behavior. This is part of the  
trend of modern yogic teachings in the West that avoid any reference  
to asceticism or tapas as part of practice, which are not popular  
ideas in this materialistic age.


However, if we read traditional Advaitic texts, we get quite a  
different impression. The question of the aptitude or adhikara of the  
student is an important topic dealt with at the beginning of the  
teaching. The requirements can be quite stringent and daunting, if  
not downright discouraging. One should first renounce the world,  
practice brahmacharya, and gain proficiency in other yogas like Karma  
Yoga, Bhakti Yoga and Raja Yoga and so on (the sadhana-chatushtya).  
One can examine texts like the Vedanta Sara I.6-26 for a detailed  
description. While probably no one ever had all of these requirements  
before starting the practice of Self-inquiry, these at least do  
encourage humility, not only on the part of the student, but also on  
the part of the teacher who himself may not have all these requirements!


Ramana keeps the requirement for Advaita simple yet clear – a ripe  
mind, which is the essence of the whole thing, and encourages  
practice of the teaching without overestimating one’s readiness for  
it. Yet a ripe mind is not as easy as it sounds either.


Ramana defines this ripe mind as profound detachment and deep  
discrimination, above all a powerful aspiration for liberation from  
the body and the cycle of rebirth – not a mere mental interest but an  
unshakeable conviction going to the very root of our thoughts and  
feelings (note Ramana Gita VII. 8-11).


A ripe, pure or sattvic mind implies that rajas and tamas, the  
qualities of passion and ignorance, have been cleared not only from  
the mind but also from the body, to which the mind is connected in  
Vedic thought. Such a pure or ripe mind was rare even in classical  
India. In the modern world, in which our life-style and culture is  
dominated by rajas and tamas, it is indeed quite rare and certainly  
not to be expected.


To arrive at it, a dharmic life-style is necessary. This is similar  
to the Yoga Sutra prescription of the yamas and niyamas as  
prerequisites for Yoga practice. In this regard, Ramana particularly  
emphasized a sattvic vegetarian diet as a great aid to practice.


The problem is that many people take Ramana’s idea of a ripe mind  
superficially. It is not a prescription that anyone can approach or  
practice Advaita in any manner they like. Advaita does require  
considerable inner purity and self-discipline, developing which is an  
important aim of practice which should not be lightly set aside.


Is Advaita Against Other Yoga Practices?

A related misconception is that Advaita is against other spiritual  
and yogic practices like mantra, pranayama, puja and bhakti, which  
from its point of view are regarded as of little value and only serve  
to condition the mind further. Even a number of traditional Advaitic  
texts speak of setting all such other yogic practices aside as  
useless. Many neo-Advaitins emphasize such advanced teachings. They  
may tell even beginning students to give up all other practices and  
discourage them from doing mantras, pranayama or other yoga  
techniques. We could call this ‘Advaita without Yoga’.


Traditional Advaita, which Ramana echoed, states that advanced  
aspirants who are truly ready for a dedicated path of self-inquiry  
can discard other yogic practices if they are so inclined. But it  
also states that for gaining a ripe mind, developing proficiency in  
these preliminary practices is a good idea. Most people can benefit  
from at least some support practices, particularly beginners, even if  
their main focus is Self-inquiry. Note the Ramana Gita VII. 12-14 in  
this regard.


If we study traditional Advaita, we find that Yoga practices were  
regarded as the main tools for 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?

[yifuxero]

--Excellent words from Frawley.  Neo-Advaitins typically try to diss 
devotion to (Gurus, gods); but there are no set rules even after CC 
since Ramakrishna continued with his devotion to Kali.
 Such Neo-Advaitic misconceptions are preferences on their part; 
some essentially types of urban myths for modern times.

- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

  From the excellent article by David Frawley Misconceptions about  
 Advaita, First published in the Mountain Path of the Sri 
Ramanashram  
 LINK
 
 Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?
 
 One of the main areas of difference of opinion is relative to who 
can  
 practice Advaita and to what degree? What are the prerequisites 
for  
 Self-inquiry? Some people believe that Advaita has no 
prerequisites,  
 but can be taken up by anyone, under any circumstances, regardless 
of  
 their background or life-style. After all, Advaita is just 
teaching  
 us to rest in our true nature, which is always there for everyone.  
 Why should that rest on any outer aids or requirements? This is a  
 particularly appealing idea in the age of democracy, when all 
people  
 are supposed to be equal.
 
 In much of neo-Advaita, the idea of prerequisites on the part of 
the  
 student or the teacher is not discussed. Speaking to general  
 audiences in the West, some neo-Advaitic teachers give the 
impression  
 that one can practice Advaita along with an affluent life-style 
and  
 little modification of one's personal behavior. This is part of 
the  
 trend of modern yogic teachings in the West that avoid any 
reference  
 to asceticism or tapas as part of practice, which are not popular  
 ideas in this materialistic age.
 
 However, if we read traditional Advaitic texts, we get quite a  
 different impression. The question of the aptitude or adhikara of 
the  
 student is an important topic dealt with at the beginning of the  
 teaching. The requirements can be quite stringent and daunting, if  
 not downright discouraging. One should first renounce the world,  
 practice brahmacharya, and gain proficiency in other yogas like 
Karma  
 Yoga, Bhakti Yoga and Raja Yoga and so on (the sadhana-
chatushtya).  
 One can examine texts like the Vedanta Sara I.6-26 for a detailed  
 description. While probably no one ever had all of these 
requirements  
 before starting the practice of Self-inquiry, these at least do  
 encourage humility, not only on the part of the student, but also 
on  
 the part of the teacher who himself may not have all these 
requirements!
 
 Ramana keeps the requirement for Advaita simple yet clear – a ripe  
 mind, which is the essence of the whole thing, and encourages  
 practice of the teaching without overestimating one's readiness 
for  
 it. Yet a ripe mind is not as easy as it sounds either.
 
 Ramana defines this ripe mind as profound detachment and deep  
 discrimination, above all a powerful aspiration for liberation 
from  
 the body and the cycle of rebirth – not a mere mental interest but 
an  
 unshakeable conviction going to the very root of our thoughts and  
 feelings (note Ramana Gita VII. 8-11).
 
 A ripe, pure or sattvic mind implies that rajas and tamas, the  
 qualities of passion and ignorance, have been cleared not only 
from  
 the mind but also from the body, to which the mind is connected in  
 Vedic thought. Such a pure or ripe mind was rare even in classical  
 India. In the modern world, in which our life-style and culture is  
 dominated by rajas and tamas, it is indeed quite rare and 
certainly  
 not to be expected.
 
 To arrive at it, a dharmic life-style is necessary. This is 
similar  
 to the Yoga Sutra prescription of the yamas and niyamas as  
 prerequisites for Yoga practice. In this regard, Ramana 
particularly  
 emphasized a sattvic vegetarian diet as a great aid to practice.
 
 The problem is that many people take Ramana's idea of a ripe mind  
 superficially. It is not a prescription that anyone can approach 
or  
 practice Advaita in any manner they like. Advaita does require  
 considerable inner purity and self-discipline, developing which is 
an  
 important aim of practice which should not be lightly set aside.
 
 Is Advaita Against Other Yoga Practices?
 
 A related misconception is that Advaita is against other spiritual  
 and yogic practices like mantra, pranayama, puja and bhakti, which  
 from its point of view are regarded as of little value and only 
serve  
 to condition the mind further. Even a number of traditional 
Advaitic  
 texts speak of setting all such other yogic practices aside as  
 useless. Many neo-Advaitins emphasize such advanced teachings. 
They  
 may tell even beginning students to give up all other practices 
and  
 discourage them from doing mantras, pranayama or other yoga  
 techniques. We could call this `Advaita without Yoga'.
 
 Traditional Advaita, which Ramana echoed, states that advanced  
 aspirants who are truly ready for a dedicated path of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas

[John]

Kirk,

It sounds like you would do well as a TM Sidha if you're not 
already.  In theory, you can do good both for the world and yourself.

Nonetheless, your case appears to parallel that of Job in the Old 
Testament.  He too questioned: why me?

JR



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... 
wrote:

 Sure grate.swan, I feel you. Well after that year my life collapsed 
as far 
 as dreams and ambitions go and sometimes I will now just be doing 
absolutely 
 nothing with nothing in mind to do. I had crashed, and as a friend 
of mine 
 puts it, gone through the bottom. I am still bottoming out too 
most 
 likely. People ask me often what's going on, and I always 
say, totally 
 nothing! I have ceased to live for meaning and live really for the 
moment.
 
 I have to thank my wife for her support which has kept me going 
through all 
 these years when I have never really fit into society and the every 
day work 
 force. I also want to thank my unique few friends in NOLA for 
having also 
 nothing to do and so being able to hang out. Shout out to the local 
lama for 
 also just hanging around with nothing in mind to do especially. And 
then I 
 praise this group which altogether takes on the characteristic 
of 'friend.' 
 FFLife takes on the sense of nagging spiritual subconscious in the 
back of 
 my mind.
 
 I want to do iboga treatment under the care of a Bwiti tribesman. 
But for 
 lack of a plane ticket could anyone from outside the US who can buy 
ibogaine 
 for me and mail it to me? Like a Canadian?  Please PM me if you 
would help. 
 I will keep our correspondence entirely secret.  Let me know.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:17 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas
 
 
 i also have found it easy at times in my life to lose focus on what
  is directly in front of me, and let my thirst for greater spirtual
  presence to blind me to my daily responsibilities. a dear friend 
of
  mine sometimes reminds me to just be where i am. it is great 
advice.
  there is not actual difference between what i can do from an
  ordinary perspective, and engaging in a lot of mystical practices.
  and the results, whatever they may be, speak for themselves.

[FairfieldLife] TMO Finances

[boo_lives]

I noticed that guidestar.org had the 06 tax filing for Maharishi
global development fund, which the latest available.  MGDF is one of
innumerable tmo orgs in the US, but appears to be the most significant
financially.  It's interesting to me primarily because of how much
money it's been transferring to offshore accts the past decade via
grants.  In 06 it transferred about $38 million offshore, continuing
the trend.  

I also noticed though that it gave almost $12 million to Maharishi
Vedic Education Development Corp, located on MUM campus, whose purpose
is to teach TM according to the filing.  I was curious about this org.
so I looked up its filing.  Actually this seems to be a pretty big
org, taking in over $23 million in grants and revenues in that same
year it got the big grant from MGDF.  It's difficult to know exactly
how it spent that money, but it does itemize:  over $9 million in
salaries and wages though not listed by individual, $3m for
occupancy which I guess means rent but that seems extraordinarily
high for such an org., $2.3m in PR, $900,000 for conferences, $600,000
for travel, $360,000 for bookkeeping, $415,000 for telephone, and
various other stuff.  IT also gives some grants to other tmo orgs.

I thought the $9 million in salaries/wages might include wages to
laborers for building the world peace centers, but the balance sheet
doesn't list anything like that, so it's not going into hard assets
like real estate.

Bevan is president, feldman treasurer, though norin isquith appears to
do the books.

Would love to know who's getting the big salary dollars.

[FairfieldLife] About Gandhi (Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda)

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
 
 People who have never studied magic are amazed by the stupidest
 tricks.  

And people who have never studied music are amazed by stupid Hillbilly 
tricks.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas

[yifuxero]

-
Maybe the Mayans can help, with the TIME factor.  Bring up a pic of 
the Mayan Tzolkin and chant some mantras to it.  Do this for 10 
minutes per day.  Note the results and report back.
http://www.mayanmajix.com/ancient_F1.html




-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 Kirk,
 
 It sounds like you would do well as a TM Sidha if you're not 
 already.  In theory, you can do good both for the world and 
yourself.
 
 Nonetheless, your case appears to parallel that of Job in the Old 
 Testament.  He too questioned: why me?
 
 JR
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ 
 wrote:
 
  Sure grate.swan, I feel you. Well after that year my life 
collapsed 
 as far 
  as dreams and ambitions go and sometimes I will now just be doing 
 absolutely 
  nothing with nothing in mind to do. I had crashed, and as a 
friend 
 of mine 
  puts it, gone through the bottom. I am still bottoming out too 
 most 
  likely. People ask me often what's going on, and I always 
 say, totally 
  nothing! I have ceased to live for meaning and live really for 
the 
 moment.
  
  I have to thank my wife for her support which has kept me going 
 through all 
  these years when I have never really fit into society and the 
every 
 day work 
  force. I also want to thank my unique few friends in NOLA for 
 having also 
  nothing to do and so being able to hang out. Shout out to the 
local 
 lama for 
  also just hanging around with nothing in mind to do especially. 
And 
 then I 
  praise this group which altogether takes on the characteristic 
 of 'friend.' 
  FFLife takes on the sense of nagging spiritual subconscious in 
the 
 back of 
  my mind.
  
  I want to do iboga treatment under the care of a Bwiti tribesman. 
 But for 
  lack of a plane ticket could anyone from outside the US who can 
buy 
 ibogaine 
  for me and mail it to me? Like a Canadian?  Please PM me if you 
 would help. 
  I will keep our correspondence entirely secret.  Let me know.
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:17 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas
  
  
  i also have found it easy at times in my life to lose focus on 
what
   is directly in front of me, and let my thirst for greater 
spirtual
   presence to blind me to my daily responsibilities. a dear 
friend 
 of
   mine sometimes reminds me to just be where i am. it is great 
 advice.
   there is not actual difference between what i can do from an
   ordinary perspective, and engaging in a lot of mystical 
practices.
   and the results, whatever they may be, speak for themselves.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
  perhaps after
   all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he 
said so!!
  
  
  He did.
  
  MMY: I'm just a normal human being
  Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a normal 
human 
  being
  
  - Vlodrop, 1999
 
 
 
 MMY's normal was someone in CC
 
 
 L.

Correct; or rather BC.

[FairfieldLife] About Gandhi (Re: Light therapy with gems in Maharishi Ayurveda)

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
  People who have never studied magic are amazed by the stupidest
  tricks.  
 
 And people who have never studied music are amazed by stupid
Hillbilly  tricks.

Hillbillies are white, uneducated, poor, rural people.

The music I play comes from black, uneducated poor,rural people.

If you want to express what a musical snob you are,it helps to get
your idiom right.

And unless you exclusively listen to European or Asian, folk or
classical music...

you can thank a uneducated poor,rural black man or woman from the
southern US for what you hear.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[BillyG.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
   perhaps after
all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he 
 said so!!
   
   
   He did.
   
   MMY: I'm just a normal human being
   Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a normal 
 human 
   being
   
   - Vlodrop, 1999
  
  
  
  MMY's normal was someone in CC
  
  
  L.
 
 Correct; or rather BC.

So what's the difference between BC (Brahman Consciousness) and CC
(Cosmic Consciousness)?

[FairfieldLife] Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap

[Bhairitu]

Sorry you pigs of capitalism, nobody is that good.  For every one of 
these greedy pigs there are undoubtedly hundreds if not thousands that 
could do their job just as well and for less than $500K.  Oh, I'm sorry 
they're not the right pedigree.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/04/wall-street-insiders-whine/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   
   On Feb 4, 2009, at 3:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ 
 wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
 no_reply@  
wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ 
 wrote:
perhaps after
all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he
said so!!
   
He did.
   
MMY: I'm just a normal human being
Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a 
 normal
human being
   
- Vlodrop, 1999
 
 you must have figured out by now BillyG that Vaj has -anything- but 
 reality in mind when evaluating the demon Maharishi- lol. 

Vaj 
 projects all of his failures and unhappiness on the guy.

Both the Turq and Vaj has made this into an almost fulltime job.
Some Buddhists, don't you think ?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[yifuxero]

-Isn't BC - Brahman Consciousness -  Unity? 

Oneness Temple:
 
http://www.experiencefestival.com/forum/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/
878




- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
  wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ 
wrote:
perhaps after
 all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he 
  said so!!


He did.

MMY: I'm just a normal human being
Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a 
normal 
  human 
being

- Vlodrop, 1999
   
   
   
   MMY's normal was someone in CC
   
   
   L.
  
  Correct; or rather BC.
 
 So what's the difference between BC (Brahman Consciousness) and CC
 (Cosmic Consciousness)?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap

[Arhata Osho]

There are not 100's but certainly a few. How about 'sports stars'?












Sorry you pigs of capitalism, nobody is that good.  For every one 
of 

these greedy pigs there are undoubtedly hundreds if not thousands that 

could do their job just as well and for less than $500K.  Oh, I'm sorry 

they're not the right pedigree.



http://thinkprogres s.org/2009/ 02/04/wall- street-insiders- whine/




 

  



   
  


 

















  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas

[Kirk]

Yeah, had some Kaal Bhairav yajnas done once for timeliness. I see what 
you're getting at.  I don't know, personal sadhana reminds me all power in 
the present, etc time not such a factor really... 10 minutes a day 
really, you must think I'm cheap.


- Original Message - 
From: yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:49 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas


 -
 Maybe the Mayans can help, with the TIME factor.  Bring up a pic of
 the Mayan Tzolkin and chant some mantras to it.  Do this for 10
 minutes per day.  Note the results and report back.
 http://www.mayanmajix.com/ancient_F1.html




 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 Kirk,

 It sounds like you would do well as a TM Sidha if you're not
 already.  In theory, you can do good both for the world and
 yourself.

 Nonetheless, your case appears to parallel that of Job in the Old
 Testament.  He too questioned: why me?

 JR



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@
 wrote:
 
  Sure grate.swan, I feel you. Well after that year my life
 collapsed
 as far
  as dreams and ambitions go and sometimes I will now just be doing
 absolutely
  nothing with nothing in mind to do. I had crashed, and as a
 friend
 of mine
  puts it, gone through the bottom. I am still bottoming out too
 most
  likely. People ask me often what's going on, and I always
 say, totally
  nothing! I have ceased to live for meaning and live really for
 the
 moment.
 
  I have to thank my wife for her support which has kept me going
 through all
  these years when I have never really fit into society and the
 every
 day work
  force. I also want to thank my unique few friends in NOLA for
 having also
  nothing to do and so being able to hang out. Shout out to the
 local
 lama for
  also just hanging around with nothing in mind to do especially.
 And
 then I
  praise this group which altogether takes on the characteristic
 of 'friend.'
  FFLife takes on the sense of nagging spiritual subconscious in
 the
 back of
  my mind.
 
  I want to do iboga treatment under the care of a Bwiti tribesman.
 But for
  lack of a plane ticket could anyone from outside the US who can
 buy
 ibogaine
  for me and mail it to me? Like a Canadian?  Please PM me if you
 would help.
  I will keep our correspondence entirely secret.  Let me know.
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:17 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas
 
 
  i also have found it easy at times in my life to lose focus on
 what
   is directly in front of me, and let my thirst for greater
 spirtual
   presence to blind me to my daily responsibilities. a dear
 friend
 of
   mine sometimes reminds me to just be where i am. it is great
 advice.
   there is not actual difference between what i can do from an
   ordinary perspective, and engaging in a lot of mystical
 practices.
   and the results, whatever they may be, speak for themselves.
 





 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] TMO Finances

[Vaj]

On Feb 4, 2009, at 2:48 PM, boo_lives wrote:


I also noticed though that it gave almost $12 million to Maharishi
Vedic Education Development Corp, located on MUM campus, whose purpose
is to teach TM according to the filing.



So would that be 12,000,000 USD for proselytizing and teaching TM,  
kind of like a TM missionary fund? Since they're not having any  
success selling it, they're giving it away as a strategic tool, like  
Neo-Vedic missionaries?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[Kirk]

BC is exploring the fullness and texture of motion found in the stillness of 
CC :)


- Original Message - 
From: yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on 
Maharishi ???)


 -Isn't BC - Brahman Consciousness -  Unity?

 Oneness Temple:

 http://www.experiencefestival.com/forum/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/
 878




 - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
  wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@
 wrote:
perhaps after
 all MMY was just human, true it would have been nice had he
  said so!!
   
   
He did.
   
MMY: I'm just a normal human being
Bevan: Well today we certainly got a new definition of a
 normal
  human
being
   
- Vlodrop, 1999
   
  
  
   MMY's normal was someone in CC
  
  
   L.
 
  Correct; or rather BC.

 So what's the difference between BC (Brahman Consciousness) and CC
 (Cosmic Consciousness)?





 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] TMO Finances

[Sal Sunshine]

On Feb 4, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Vaj wrote:

On Feb 4, 2009, at 2:48 PM, boo_lives wrote:


I also noticed though that it gave almost $12 million to Maharishi
Vedic Education Development Corp, located on MUM campus, whose  
purpose

is to teach TM according to the filing.



So would that be 12,000,000 USD for proselytizing and teaching TM,  
kind of like a TM missionary fund? Since they're not having any  
success selling it, they're giving it away as a strategic tool,  
like Neo-Vedic missionaries?


Maybe they could team up with the Mormon missionaries
for a special two-for-one deal.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?

[Larry]

Part of the answer to the question Are There Prerequisites for
Advaita? lies in the question itself.

The question implies that the topic belongs to, or has to be steeped
in a particular culture or tradition.  Au contrare -

I've got a brother-in-law who has a heart attack, dragged half dead to
the hospital, cut open from bow to stern . . . 

and he walked out of that hospital an advaita thru and thru.  He's
never heard of the concept, or come across any of its precepts.

But he speaks of the meaninglessness of worldly pursuits, how his
daily duties only left him only with fears and anxieties - he
experienced a discontent that went right to his core.  That dude has
really lightened up.

So the question Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?  Hell, forget
whether there's prerequisites or not - ask yourself - without the
(near) extinguishing of 'that person in charge of my life', can
advaita be practiced at all?

The practice of advaita without the honest recognition that it will
never work is doomed to create the same anxieties and fears that a 9-5
job will do.

I recommend eating a bunch of deep fried cheese curds.








--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

  From the excellent article by David Frawley Misconceptions about  
 Advaita, First published in the Mountain Path of the Sri Ramanashram  
 LINK
 
 Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?
 
 One of the main areas of difference of opinion is relative to who can  
 practice Advaita and to what degree? What are the prerequisites for  
 Self-inquiry? Some people believe that Advaita has no prerequisites,  
 but can be taken up by anyone, under any circumstances, regardless of  
 their background or life-style. After all, Advaita is just teaching  
 us to rest in our true nature, which is always there for everyone.  
 Why should that rest on any outer aids or requirements? This is a  
 particularly appealing idea in the age of democracy, when all people  
 are supposed to be equal.
 
 In much of neo-Advaita, the idea of prerequisites on the part of the  
 student or the teacher is not discussed. Speaking to general  
 audiences in the West, some neo-Advaitic teachers give the impression  
 that one can practice Advaita along with an affluent life-style and  
 little modification of one's personal behavior. This is part of the  
 trend of modern yogic teachings in the West that avoid any reference  
 to asceticism or tapas as part of practice, which are not popular  
 ideas in this materialistic age.
 
 However, if we read traditional Advaitic texts, we get quite a  
 different impression. The question of the aptitude or adhikara of the  
 student is an important topic dealt with at the beginning of the  
 teaching. The requirements can be quite stringent and daunting, if  
 not downright discouraging. One should first renounce the world,  
 practice brahmacharya, and gain proficiency in other yogas like Karma  
 Yoga, Bhakti Yoga and Raja Yoga and so on (the sadhana-chatushtya).  
 One can examine texts like the Vedanta Sara I.6-26 for a detailed  
 description. While probably no one ever had all of these requirements  
 before starting the practice of Self-inquiry, these at least do  
 encourage humility, not only on the part of the student, but also on  
 the part of the teacher who himself may not have all these requirements!
 
 Ramana keeps the requirement for Advaita simple yet clear – a ripe  
 mind, which is the essence of the whole thing, and encourages  
 practice of the teaching without overestimating one's readiness for  
 it. Yet a ripe mind is not as easy as it sounds either.
 
 Ramana defines this ripe mind as profound detachment and deep  
 discrimination, above all a powerful aspiration for liberation from  
 the body and the cycle of rebirth – not a mere mental interest but an  
 unshakeable conviction going to the very root of our thoughts and  
 feelings (note Ramana Gita VII. 8-11).
 
 A ripe, pure or sattvic mind implies that rajas and tamas, the  
 qualities of passion and ignorance, have been cleared not only from  
 the mind but also from the body, to which the mind is connected in  
 Vedic thought. Such a pure or ripe mind was rare even in classical  
 India. In the modern world, in which our life-style and culture is  
 dominated by rajas and tamas, it is indeed quite rare and certainly  
 not to be expected.
 
 To arrive at it, a dharmic life-style is necessary. This is similar  
 to the Yoga Sutra prescription of the yamas and niyamas as  
 prerequisites for Yoga practice. In this regard, Ramana particularly  
 emphasized a sattvic vegetarian diet as a great aid to practice.
 
 The problem is that many people take Ramana's idea of a ripe mind  
 superficially. It is not a prescription that anyone can approach or  
 practice Advaita in any manner they like. Advaita does require  
 considerable inner purity and self-discipline, developing which is an  
 important aim of practice which should not be 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap

[enlightened_dawn11]

how about sports team owners? at least the players do something, 
whereas the owners' greatest skill seems to be getting public 
financing for their home team stadiums.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho 
arhatafreespe...@... wrote:

 There are not 100's but certainly a few. How about 'sports stars'?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sorry you pigs of capitalism, nobody is that good.  
For every one of 
 
 these greedy pigs there are undoubtedly hundreds if not thousands 
that 
 
 could do their job just as well and for less than $500K.  Oh, I'm 
sorry 
 
 they're not the right pedigree.
 
 
 
 http://thinkprogres s.org/2009/ 02/04/wall- street-insiders- whine/

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Finances

[dhamiltony2k5]

Is a Big subject.  

Also do a google search on internal revenue service tax fraud


Tax fraud can be reported to the IRS through the IRS webpage.  The 
IRS does give substantial rewards for big fraud.  What they do need 
are some good pointers for discovering people, their income and tax 
filings.  

This looks like you have found that.

The IRS has been interested in recent years in 'non-profit'  tax-
exempt shell organizations.  Excessive pay and reimbursement abuse.  
The conflict of in-bred organizational directors, trustees and 
executive pay/ reimbursement.

 of course, TM-orgs have never been known for the clarity of their 
transparency.









--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_li...@... 
wrote:

 I noticed that guidestar.org had the 06 tax filing for Maharishi
 global development fund, which the latest available.  MGDF is one of
 innumerable tmo orgs in the US, but appears to be the most 
significant
 financially.  It's interesting to me primarily because of how much
 money it's been transferring to offshore accts the past decade via
 grants.  In 06 it transferred about $38 million offshore, 
continuing
 the trend.  
 
 I also noticed though that it gave almost $12 million to Maharishi
 Vedic Education Development Corp, located on MUM campus, whose 
purpose
 is to teach TM according to the filing.  I was curious about this 
org.
 so I looked up its filing.  Actually this seems to be a pretty big
 org, taking in over $23 million in grants and revenues in that same
 year it got the big grant from MGDF.  It's difficult to know exactly
 how it spent that money, but it does itemize:  over $9 million in
 salaries and wages though not listed by individual, $3m for
 occupancy which I guess means rent but that seems extraordinarily
 high for such an org., $2.3m in PR, $900,000 for conferences, 
$600,000
 for travel, $360,000 for bookkeeping, $415,000 for telephone, and
 various other stuff.  IT also gives some grants to other tmo orgs.
 
 I thought the $9 million in salaries/wages might include wages to
 laborers for building the world peace centers, but the balance sheet
 doesn't list anything like that, so it's not going into hard assets
 like real estate.
 
 Bevan is president, feldman treasurer, though norin isquith appears 
to
 do the books.
 
 Would love to know who's getting the big salary dollars.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Finances

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Feb 4, 2009, at 2:48 PM, boo_lives wrote:
 
  I also noticed though that it gave almost $12 million to Maharishi
  Vedic Education Development Corp, located on MUM campus, whose 
purpose
  is to teach TM according to the filing.
 
 
 So would that be 12,000,000 USD for proselytizing and teaching TM,  
 kind of like a TM missionary fund? Since they're not having any  
 success selling it, they're giving it away as a strategic tool, like  
 Neo-Vedic missionaries?


The TMO must be earning money one way or another from its various 
organizations.  There must be new meditators who have bought in to the 
program.  Otherwise, the TMO will have to operate by donations through 
its active members.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas

[yifuxero]

---Tzolkin - for changing time, it's structure; not timelessness 
necessarily.
http://www.ncane.com/t224

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:

 Yeah, had some Kaal Bhairav yajnas done once for timeliness. I see 
what 
 you're getting at.  I don't know, personal sadhana reminds me all 
power in 
 the present, etc time not such a factor really... 10 minutes a 
day 
 really, you must think I'm cheap.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: yifuxero yifux...@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:49 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas
 
 
  -
  Maybe the Mayans can help, with the TIME factor.  Bring up a pic 
of
  the Mayan Tzolkin and chant some mantras to it.  Do this for 10
  minutes per day.  Note the results and report back.
  http://www.mayanmajix.com/ancient_F1.html
 
 
 
 
  -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  Kirk,
 
  It sounds like you would do well as a TM Sidha if you're not
  already.  In theory, you can do good both for the world and
  yourself.
 
  Nonetheless, your case appears to parallel that of Job in the Old
  Testament.  He too questioned: why me?
 
  JR
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@
  wrote:
  
   Sure grate.swan, I feel you. Well after that year my life
  collapsed
  as far
   as dreams and ambitions go and sometimes I will now just be 
doing
  absolutely
   nothing with nothing in mind to do. I had crashed, and as a
  friend
  of mine
   puts it, gone through the bottom. I am still bottoming out 
too
  most
   likely. People ask me often what's going on, and I always
  say, totally
   nothing! I have ceased to live for meaning and live really for
  the
  moment.
  
   I have to thank my wife for her support which has kept me going
  through all
   these years when I have never really fit into society and the
  every
  day work
   force. I also want to thank my unique few friends in NOLA for
  having also
   nothing to do and so being able to hang out. Shout out to the
  local
  lama for
   also just hanging around with nothing in mind to do especially.
  And
  then I
   praise this group which altogether takes on the characteristic
  of 'friend.'
   FFLife takes on the sense of nagging spiritual subconscious in
  the
  back of
   my mind.
  
   I want to do iboga treatment under the care of a Bwiti 
tribesman.
  But for
   lack of a plane ticket could anyone from outside the US who can
  buy
  ibogaine
   for me and mail it to me? Like a Canadian?  Please PM me if you
  would help.
   I will keep our correspondence entirely secret.  Let me know.
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:17 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas
  
  
   i also have found it easy at times in my life to lose focus on
  what
is directly in front of me, and let my thirst for greater
  spirtual
presence to blind me to my daily responsibilities. a dear
  friend
  of
mine sometimes reminds me to just be where i am. it is great
  advice.
there is not actual difference between what i can do from an
ordinary perspective, and engaging in a lot of mystical
  practices.
and the results, whatever they may be, speak for themselves.
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  To subscribe, send a message to:
  fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 
  Or go to:
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
  and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?

[yifuxero]

---Did Bro-in-law have a NDE? See any dead relatives? Tunnel, Light?

For Kirk if he's reading this.  Haven't tried Ibogaine but you can 
get botanical specimens of San Pedro cactus online.  Contains 
mescaline but no nausea-generating compounds. Mellow stuff but 
powerful.

http://www.ncane.com/t224 


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry inmadi...@... wrote:

 Part of the answer to the question Are There Prerequisites for
 Advaita? lies in the question itself.
 
 The question implies that the topic belongs to, or has to be steeped
 in a particular culture or tradition.  Au contrare -
 
 I've got a brother-in-law who has a heart attack, dragged half dead 
to
 the hospital, cut open from bow to stern . . . 
 
 and he walked out of that hospital an advaita thru and thru.  He's
 never heard of the concept, or come across any of its precepts.
 
 But he speaks of the meaninglessness of worldly pursuits, how his
 daily duties only left him only with fears and anxieties - he
 experienced a discontent that went right to his core.  That dude has
 really lightened up.
 
 So the question Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?  Hell, forget
 whether there's prerequisites or not - ask yourself - without the
 (near) extinguishing of 'that person in charge of my life', can
 advaita be practiced at all?
 
 The practice of advaita without the honest recognition that it will
 never work is doomed to create the same anxieties and fears that a 
9-5
 job will do.
 
 I recommend eating a bunch of deep fried cheese curds.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
   From the excellent article by David Frawley Misconceptions 
about  
  Advaita, First published in the Mountain Path of the Sri 
Ramanashram  
  LINK
  
  Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?
  
  One of the main areas of difference of opinion is relative to who 
can  
  practice Advaita and to what degree? What are the prerequisites 
for  
  Self-inquiry? Some people believe that Advaita has no 
prerequisites,  
  but can be taken up by anyone, under any circumstances, 
regardless of  
  their background or life-style. After all, Advaita is just 
teaching  
  us to rest in our true nature, which is always there for 
everyone.  
  Why should that rest on any outer aids or requirements? This is 
a  
  particularly appealing idea in the age of democracy, when all 
people  
  are supposed to be equal.
  
  In much of neo-Advaita, the idea of prerequisites on the part of 
the  
  student or the teacher is not discussed. Speaking to general  
  audiences in the West, some neo-Advaitic teachers give the 
impression  
  that one can practice Advaita along with an affluent life-style 
and  
  little modification of one's personal behavior. This is part of 
the  
  trend of modern yogic teachings in the West that avoid any 
reference  
  to asceticism or tapas as part of practice, which are not 
popular  
  ideas in this materialistic age.
  
  However, if we read traditional Advaitic texts, we get quite a  
  different impression. The question of the aptitude or adhikara of 
the  
  student is an important topic dealt with at the beginning of the  
  teaching. The requirements can be quite stringent and daunting, 
if  
  not downright discouraging. One should first renounce the world,  
  practice brahmacharya, and gain proficiency in other yogas like 
Karma  
  Yoga, Bhakti Yoga and Raja Yoga and so on (the sadhana-
chatushtya).  
  One can examine texts like the Vedanta Sara I.6-26 for a 
detailed  
  description. While probably no one ever had all of these 
requirements  
  before starting the practice of Self-inquiry, these at least do  
  encourage humility, not only on the part of the student, but also 
on  
  the part of the teacher who himself may not have all these 
requirements!
  
  Ramana keeps the requirement for Advaita simple yet clear – a 
ripe  
  mind, which is the essence of the whole thing, and encourages  
  practice of the teaching without overestimating one's readiness 
for  
  it. Yet a ripe mind is not as easy as it sounds either.
  
  Ramana defines this ripe mind as profound detachment and deep  
  discrimination, above all a powerful aspiration for liberation 
from  
  the body and the cycle of rebirth – not a mere mental interest 
but an  
  unshakeable conviction going to the very root of our thoughts 
and  
  feelings (note Ramana Gita VII. 8-11).
  
  A ripe, pure or sattvic mind implies that rajas and tamas, the  
  qualities of passion and ignorance, have been cleared not only 
from  
  the mind but also from the body, to which the mind is connected 
in  
  Vedic thought. Such a pure or ripe mind was rare even in 
classical  
  India. In the modern world, in which our life-style and culture 
is  
  dominated by rajas and tamas, it is indeed quite rare and 
certainly  
  not to be expected.
  
  To arrive at it, a dharmic life-style is necessary. This is 
similar  
  to the Yoga Sutra prescription of 

[FairfieldLife] Sacred Transmissions from Peru - Sunday February 8, 2pm

[Rick Archer]

  https://docs.google.com/File?id=d6qfh9x_225d4dt8kd4_b 

If you can't see the image above, go to: http://dawnhawk.com/invitation.html

The Munay-Ki sacred transmissions will be offered to the Fairfield community
beginning February 8.  An information session will be given in the public
library starting at 2 pm, followed by the opportunity to receive the first
two rites.

The Munay-Ki are the nine great rites of initiation of the Peruvian shamanic
tradition. In the Quechua language, Munay is the term for the energy of the
heart center; we might translate Munay-ki as love-in-motion. These
transmissions can assist you both in healing and in moving forward to who
you are becoming, sourcing from your destiny rather than from your past.
These rites come to us from the descendants of the great Inka nation. For
centuries they preserved their knowledge even in the face of European
invasion. In the latter part of the 20th century the Q'ero, Chimu and Moche
cultures began actively revealing their traditions to people outside their
immediate communities.

The rites transfer the seeds of healing and empowerment from this ancient
lineage to individuals today. These are gifted in seed form, and with
nurturing and attention they grow to support health, harmony and empowerment
at all levels.

Several Fairfield residents have been trained to offer the Munay-Ki, and
will offer them to all, without charge, in a series of meetings beginning
Sunday, February 8.  The two transmissions to be offered on Sunday are
these:

The Healer's Rite. This rite initiates a deep current of healing in your
luminous energy field. It connects you to a lineage of Earthkeepers from the
past that come and assist you in your personal healing. It also launches an
energetic process that awakens your ability to bring ease, healing and
beauty to others.
 
The Bands of Power. This rite installs bands of protection in the Luminous
Energy Field that surrounds our physical bodies. As these bands take effect,
we are able to dismantle the other forms of protection we may have
unconsciously adopted, which restrict us and separate us from others.

Cielle and Jeffrey Backstrom and Michael Murphy invite you to receive these
rites
Sunday, February 8  -  2:00pm   - Fairfield Public Library

For more information visit the web site at:
http://dawnhawk.com/munay-ki.html 





 

[FairfieldLife] 60,000,000 geniuses (Re: Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap)

[Duveyoung]

Six billion people means sixty million geniuses.

What most folks don't know about geniuses is HOW MUCH SMARTER they
are.  You know how you feel when you meet a person of obvious low
I.Q.?  There's 60,000,000 folks out there who would feel the same
about you -- only, you know, for a lot more reason.  They're that far
beyond you.  

Do the math.  The world's smartys are just now coming online - that is
-- they can escape their cultures using the Internet to come up to
speed and see that, what?, that the world is ripe for the pickin's.  

Same deal for the other special folks with sport, music, etc.
abilities.  All of them are getting the tools to bootstrap themselves.  

Sounds good, eh?  

I tremble.  I'm not one of the sixty million.  I can be had by ANY of
them.  And now, what morality will hold them back when ANY OF THEM can
out-think Donald Trump and do whatever the international globalists
have done by simply outsmarting every culture's constraints -- like
Madoff, like BushCo.  

Once, we were protected from them.  There were country borders, laws,
poverty, educational and religious controls and handcuffings.  

No more.  

Any second now the $10 computer will be a reality, and every genius in
China and India is going to grow up with the absolute clarity that
they don't have to put up with any restrictions.

Is ya shakin' in yer booties?

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 Sorry you pigs of capitalism, nobody is that good.  For every one of 
 these greedy pigs there are undoubtedly hundreds if not thousands that 
 could do their job just as well and for less than $500K.  Oh, I'm sorry 
 they're not the right pedigree.
 
 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/04/wall-street-insiders-whine/

Re: [FairfieldLife] 60,000,000 geniuses (Re: Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap)

[Bhairitu]

What is the IQ of these 60 million?  How do you know you aren't one of 
them or are you just playing humble?  I would think quite a few on this 
group fit in the 60 million.  And intelligence can be expressed in 
different ways.  Some people appear intelligent because they've been 
able to memorize a bunch of facts but faced with a problem may not be 
able to solve it.  Some appear intelligent because they can write in 
flowery words or academic prose but not express an original idea.

I'm not sure it is intelligence that gets these people those high income 
gigs.  In cases I've seen it is being smart enough to cover their butt 
and bluff while storming up the hill blindly.   While others wiser might 
weigh all the consequences and decide it such a venture is not worth a 
risk.  It looks like we've had quite a few financial execs who have 
charged up the hill and gone right over the cliff taking their too big 
to fail organization with them.  Such bravado.

Then you have to think about Bill McGuire who's exit compensation from 
United Health was over a billion dollars.  That means that a lot of 
people who had insurance with that company were denied claims to give 
that bastard such an outrageous amount. He's got to be one of the 
greatest con artists in history.


Duveyoung wrote:
 Six billion people means sixty million geniuses.

 What most folks don't know about geniuses is HOW MUCH SMARTER they
 are.  You know how you feel when you meet a person of obvious low
 I.Q.?  There's 60,000,000 folks out there who would feel the same
 about you -- only, you know, for a lot more reason.  They're that far
 beyond you.  

 Do the math.  The world's smartys are just now coming online - that is
 -- they can escape their cultures using the Internet to come up to
 speed and see that, what?, that the world is ripe for the pickin's.  

 Same deal for the other special folks with sport, music, etc.
 abilities.  All of them are getting the tools to bootstrap themselves.  

 Sounds good, eh?  

 I tremble.  I'm not one of the sixty million.  I can be had by ANY of
 them.  And now, what morality will hold them back when ANY OF THEM can
 out-think Donald Trump and do whatever the international globalists
 have done by simply outsmarting every culture's constraints -- like
 Madoff, like BushCo.  

 Once, we were protected from them.  There were country borders, laws,
 poverty, educational and religious controls and handcuffings.  

 No more.  

 Any second now the $10 computer will be a reality, and every genius in
 China and India is going to grow up with the absolute clarity that
 they don't have to put up with any restrictions.

 Is ya shakin' in yer booties?

 Edg

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
   
 Sorry you pigs of capitalism, nobody is that good.  For every one of 
 these greedy pigs there are undoubtedly hundreds if not thousands that 
 could do their job just as well and for less than $500K.  Oh, I'm sorry 
 they're not the right pedigree.

 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/04/wall-street-insiders-whine/

 



   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[BillyG.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:

 BC is exploring the fullness and texture of motion found in the
stillness of 
 CC :)

I like to put it this way; when you realize the spark of God that
exists as your own soul in its fullness, that is CC.  When that
singular experience grows to embrace the soul of the manifest World,
that is GC, and when that experience melts into unbounded unmanifest
consciousness that is Unity or BC.

According to MMY all the great souls 'bodies' remain in he Akasha
tattwa until the time of dissolution or pralaya, they have bodies
similar to houses made of glass bricks, enabling the light (glow) to
shine through. They can take any body on any plane at any time if God
so wills it, according to some sources. They are one with the light.

Re: [FairfieldLife] 60,000,000 geniuses (Re: Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap)

[Sal Sunshine]

On Feb 4, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

What is the IQ of these 60 million?  How do you know you aren't one of
them or are you just playing humble?  I would think quite a few on  
this

group fit in the 60 million.


I would also.  Too bad none of them
ever want to post. :)


 And intelligence can be expressed in
different ways.  Some people appear intelligent because they've been
able to memorize a bunch of facts but faced with a problem may not be
able to solve it.  Some appear intelligent because they can write in
flowery words or academic prose but not express an original idea.

I'm not sure it is intelligence that gets these people those high  
income

gigs.  In cases I've seen it is being smart enough to cover their butt
and bluff while storming up the hill blindly.   While others wiser  
might

weigh all the consequences and decide it such a venture is not worth a
risk.  It looks like we've had quite a few financial execs who have
charged up the hill and gone right over the cliff taking their too  
big

to fail organization with them.  Such bravado.

Then you have to think about Bill McGuire who's exit compensation from
United Health was over a billion dollars.  That means that a lot of
people who had insurance with that company were denied claims to give
that bastard such an outrageous amount. He's got to be one of the
greatest con artists in history.


He's undoubtedly become a Republican folk
hero by now.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[yifuxero]

---thx.  Some Neo-Advaitins only wish to not exist in any relative 
sense after death.  Horrifying!
Here's the true form of the TMO:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_on_sc/sci_monster_snake



 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ 
wrote:
 
  BC is exploring the fullness and texture of motion found in the
 stillness of 
  CC :)
 
 I like to put it this way; when you realize the spark of God that
 exists as your own soul in its fullness, that is CC.  When that
 singular experience grows to embrace the soul of the manifest World,
 that is GC, and when that experience melts into unbounded unmanifest
 consciousness that is Unity or BC.
 
 According to MMY all the great souls 'bodies' remain in he Akasha
 tattwa until the time of dissolution or pralaya, they have bodies
 similar to houses made of glass bricks, enabling the light (glow) to
 shine through. They can take any body on any plane at any time if 
God
 so wills it, according to some sources. They are one with the light.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap

[I am the eternal]

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Sorry you pigs of capitalism, nobody is that good.  For every one of
 these greedy pigs there are undoubtedly hundreds if not thousands that
 could do their job just as well and for less than $500K.  Oh, I'm sorry
 they're not the right pedigree.

 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/04/wall-street-insiders-whine/


How very funny.  From the article:

That is pretty draconian — $500,000 is not a lot of money, particularly if
there is no bonus. [James F. Reda, founder and managing director of James
F. Reda  Associates]

Yes, but bringing on global economic collapse is a bit draconian, wouldn't
you say?


If I didn't pay [bonuses], the people were going to go. … These people
didn't choose to cure cancer. These people didn't choose to do public
service work…These people chose to make money. [Jack Welch, former CEO of
General Electric]

Well since they're so excited on bringing in people from foreign countries
to work cheaper, if we can't find someone who will do the job within the US
for $500,000, perhaps we'll find someone in Bangalore who will gladly do the
job for $100,000.  The Onion had an excellent spoof article a few months
back where a company brought in a migrant CEO named Juan for $60,000 a year.


The consequences of it are going to be a massive brain drain of senior
talent from those companies that have taken TARP money to those companies
that have not. [Donald Straszheim, managing principal at Straszheim Global
Advisor]

Uhh, refresh my memory.  Why was it these companies needed TARP money?

Companies that need the most talented people to fix their problems won't be
able to pay them. [Jamie Dimon, JPMorgan Chase  Co. Chief Executive
Officer]

Oh right.  Only the people who caused the meltdown of the global economy can
fix these company's problems.

BTW, if those who brought American to it's economic knees and brought
Americans to a fabulously lower standard of living over the last few decades
were devils then Jack Welch would be Lucifer.

[FairfieldLife] Atheism

[Arhata Osho]

An atheist is more that a non believer in god.
  http://www.atheists .org/Atheism/
http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/


  

[FairfieldLife] Cool Store Closes Due To Economy

[Bhairitu]

A Bay Area company Elephant Pharm closed all of it's three stores 
yesterday citing the economy as the reason.  I only made it to the 
Walnut Creek one once but it was pretty cool place with all kinds of 
products including a bulk herbs section with ayurvedic, western and 
Chinese herbs.  They also had alternative practitioners do 
consultations.  Story here:
http://cbs5.com/local/elephant.pharm.closes.2.926323.html

[FairfieldLife] 60,000,000 geniuses (Re: Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap)

[bettyblue109]

Obama and all politicians get an F- when it comes to economics, they
all create more problems than previously existedsimple observation
is all it takes to prove the point..

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 Six billion people means sixty million geniuses.
 
 What most folks don't know about geniuses is HOW MUCH SMARTER they
 are.  You know how you feel when you meet a person of obvious low
 I.Q.?  There's 60,000,000 folks out there who would feel the same
 about you -- only, you know, for a lot more reason.  They're that far
 beyond you.  
 
 Do the math.  The world's smartys are just now coming online - that is
 -- they can escape their cultures using the Internet to come up to
 speed and see that, what?, that the world is ripe for the pickin's.  
 
 Same deal for the other special folks with sport, music, etc.
 abilities.  All of them are getting the tools to bootstrap themselves.  
 
 Sounds good, eh?  
 
 I tremble.  I'm not one of the sixty million.  I can be had by ANY of
 them.  And now, what morality will hold them back when ANY OF THEM can
 out-think Donald Trump and do whatever the international globalists
 have done by simply outsmarting every culture's constraints -- like
 Madoff, like BushCo.  
 
 Once, we were protected from them.  There were country borders, laws,
 poverty, educational and religious controls and handcuffings.  
 
 No more.  
 
 Any second now the $10 computer will be a reality, and every genius in
 China and India is going to grow up with the absolute clarity that
 they don't have to put up with any restrictions.
 
 Is ya shakin' in yer booties?
 
 Edg
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  Sorry you pigs of capitalism, nobody is that good.  For every one of 
  these greedy pigs there are undoubtedly hundreds if not thousands
that 
  could do their job just as well and for less than $500K.  Oh, I'm
sorry 
  they're not the right pedigree.
  
  http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/04/wall-street-insiders-whine/
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?

[Kirk]

Sure, I am a fan of Torch cactus and know a cheap source for it. check out 
www.compras-peru.com  It's good stuff if you're into that sort of thing. :)

Yet iboga is iboga and I'm mainly looking to travel to the other side of 
addictive tendencies.

- Original Message - 
From: yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?


---Did Bro-in-law have a NDE? See any dead relatives? Tunnel, Light?

For Kirk if he's reading this.  Haven't tried Ibogaine but you can
get botanical specimens of San Pedro cactus online.  Contains
mescaline but no nausea-generating compounds. Mellow stuff but
powerful.

http://www.ncane.com/t224


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry inmadi...@... wrote:

 Part of the answer to the question Are There Prerequisites for
 Advaita? lies in the question itself.

 The question implies that the topic belongs to, or has to be steeped
 in a particular culture or tradition.  Au contrare -

 I've got a brother-in-law who has a heart attack, dragged half dead
to
 the hospital, cut open from bow to stern . . .

 and he walked out of that hospital an advaita thru and thru.  He's
 never heard of the concept, or come across any of its precepts.

 But he speaks of the meaninglessness of worldly pursuits, how his
 daily duties only left him only with fears and anxieties - he
 experienced a discontent that went right to his core.  That dude has
 really lightened up.

 So the question Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?  Hell, forget
 whether there's prerequisites or not - ask yourself - without the
 (near) extinguishing of 'that person in charge of my life', can
 advaita be practiced at all?

 The practice of advaita without the honest recognition that it will
 never work is doomed to create the same anxieties and fears that a
9-5
 job will do.

 I recommend eating a bunch of deep fried cheese curds.








 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
   From the excellent article by David Frawley Misconceptions
about
  Advaita, First published in the Mountain Path of the Sri
Ramanashram
  LINK
 
  Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?
 
  One of the main areas of difference of opinion is relative to who
can
  practice Advaita and to what degree? What are the prerequisites
for
  Self-inquiry? Some people believe that Advaita has no
prerequisites,
  but can be taken up by anyone, under any circumstances,
regardless of
  their background or life-style. After all, Advaita is just
teaching
  us to rest in our true nature, which is always there for
everyone.
  Why should that rest on any outer aids or requirements? This is
a
  particularly appealing idea in the age of democracy, when all
people
  are supposed to be equal.
 
  In much of neo-Advaita, the idea of prerequisites on the part of
the
  student or the teacher is not discussed. Speaking to general
  audiences in the West, some neo-Advaitic teachers give the
impression
  that one can practice Advaita along with an affluent life-style
and
  little modification of one's personal behavior. This is part of
the
  trend of modern yogic teachings in the West that avoid any
reference
  to asceticism or tapas as part of practice, which are not
popular
  ideas in this materialistic age.
 
  However, if we read traditional Advaitic texts, we get quite a
  different impression. The question of the aptitude or adhikara of
the
  student is an important topic dealt with at the beginning of the
  teaching. The requirements can be quite stringent and daunting,
if
  not downright discouraging. One should first renounce the world,
  practice brahmacharya, and gain proficiency in other yogas like
Karma
  Yoga, Bhakti Yoga and Raja Yoga and so on (the sadhana-
chatushtya).
  One can examine texts like the Vedanta Sara I.6-26 for a
detailed
  description. While probably no one ever had all of these
requirements
  before starting the practice of Self-inquiry, these at least do
  encourage humility, not only on the part of the student, but also
on
  the part of the teacher who himself may not have all these
requirements!
 
  Ramana keeps the requirement for Advaita simple yet clear - a
ripe
  mind, which is the essence of the whole thing, and encourages
  practice of the teaching without overestimating one's readiness
for
  it. Yet a ripe mind is not as easy as it sounds either.
 
  Ramana defines this ripe mind as profound detachment and deep
  discrimination, above all a powerful aspiration for liberation
from
  the body and the cycle of rebirth - not a mere mental interest
but an
  unshakeable conviction going to the very root of our thoughts
and
  feelings (note Ramana Gita VII. 8-11).
 
  A ripe, pure or sattvic mind implies that rajas and tamas, the
  qualities of passion and ignorance, have been cleared not only
from
  the mind but also from the body, to which the mind is connected
in
  Vedic thought. Such a pure 

[FairfieldLife] 60,000,000 geniuses (Re: Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap)

[Duveyoung]

Actually, it's more like 30 million geniuses if you use 140 I.Q. as
your cutoff point.  1/2 of 1% of the population is 140 or higher.

140 isn't transcendental; it's not a gimme that you can take advanced
courses in math, but probably you'll be able to do anything that needs
smartsany industry, anything, anything.

When you read about the private lives of these folks, you can see the
grind of their daily lives and how they must feel like those around
them are in mental molasses compared to them.  I used to teach Special
Education, so I know the relative feeling, but, nope, me ain't no
genius here -- and close only counts in horseshoes.

Yeah, motivation and all that can make or break a potential
potentate's chances of getting the big score, but it is only now that
so many prohibitions to fully expressing one's abilities are
evaporating.  If you've ever talked to a customer service rep in
India, you know that the world is getting small and connected fast in
just this way across the board.

Let's hope that good hearts too are becoming enabled to rise. One
wonders how many Obamas now stir in Africa.  

Today's American employer has to sift 200 applicants to get a genius
-- but they can find them a lot easier in Asia and pay them less.  As
these folks get into the mix, they'll start seeing that they don't
have to be a wage slave and can start exploring how to be a have and
leave the have-nots behind.  

Pretty soon, when you turn on your TV, it'll be every race and
cultural background as employers get more and more blind to everything
but mojo, pizzaz, oomph, and clarity.  Pity your local  white
supremacist; its ever so much easier for them to be afraid these days.
 No wonder they've all gone into guns -- their only chance to go toe
to toe, ya see?

Elitism will be the next gen's biggest challenge as machines and the
top minds render the rest of humanity as less and less useful and too
hard to feed, clothe, education, heal, etc.  

Entitlement -- ask any Nazi about it.

Edg


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 What is the IQ of these 60 million?  How do you know you aren't one of 
 them or are you just playing humble?  I would think quite a few on this 
 group fit in the 60 million.  And intelligence can be expressed in 
 different ways.  Some people appear intelligent because they've been 
 able to memorize a bunch of facts but faced with a problem may not be 
 able to solve it.  Some appear intelligent because they can write in 
 flowery words or academic prose but not express an original idea.
 
 I'm not sure it is intelligence that gets these people those high
income 
 gigs.  In cases I've seen it is being smart enough to cover their butt 
 and bluff while storming up the hill blindly.   While others wiser
might 
 weigh all the consequences and decide it such a venture is not worth a 
 risk.  It looks like we've had quite a few financial execs who have 
 charged up the hill and gone right over the cliff taking their too big 
 to fail organization with them.  Such bravado.
 
 Then you have to think about Bill McGuire who's exit compensation from 
 United Health was over a billion dollars.  That means that a lot of 
 people who had insurance with that company were denied claims to give 
 that bastard such an outrageous amount. He's got to be one of the 
 greatest con artists in history.
 
 
 Duveyoung wrote:
  Six billion people means sixty million geniuses.
 
  What most folks don't know about geniuses is HOW MUCH SMARTER they
  are.  You know how you feel when you meet a person of obvious low
  I.Q.?  There's 60,000,000 folks out there who would feel the same
  about you -- only, you know, for a lot more reason.  They're that far
  beyond you.  
 
  Do the math.  The world's smartys are just now coming online - that is
  -- they can escape their cultures using the Internet to come up to
  speed and see that, what?, that the world is ripe for the pickin's.  
 
  Same deal for the other special folks with sport, music, etc.
  abilities.  All of them are getting the tools to bootstrap
themselves.  
 
  Sounds good, eh?  
 
  I tremble.  I'm not one of the sixty million.  I can be had by ANY of
  them.  And now, what morality will hold them back when ANY OF THEM can
  out-think Donald Trump and do whatever the international globalists
  have done by simply outsmarting every culture's constraints -- like
  Madoff, like BushCo.  
 
  Once, we were protected from them.  There were country borders, laws,
  poverty, educational and religious controls and handcuffings.  
 
  No more.  
 
  Any second now the $10 computer will be a reality, and every genius in
  China and India is going to grow up with the absolute clarity that
  they don't have to put up with any restrictions.
 
  Is ya shakin' in yer booties?
 
  Edg
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

  Sorry you pigs of capitalism, nobody is that good.  For every one of 
  these 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas

[Kirk]

Is this the sort of thing you're talking about?
http://www.astrodreamadvisor.com/free_mayan_readings.html

- Original Message - 
From: yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:13 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas


 ---Tzolkin - for changing time, it's structure; not timelessness 
 necessarily.
 http://www.ncane.com/t224
 
 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:

 Yeah, had some Kaal Bhairav yajnas done once for timeliness. I see 
 what 
 you're getting at.  I don't know, personal sadhana reminds me all 
 power in 
 the present, etc time not such a factor really... 10 minutes a 
 day 
 really, you must think I'm cheap.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: yifuxero yifux...@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:49 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas
 
 
  -
  Maybe the Mayans can help, with the TIME factor.  Bring up a pic 
 of
  the Mayan Tzolkin and chant some mantras to it.  Do this for 10
  minutes per day.  Note the results and report back.
  http://www.mayanmajix.com/ancient_F1.html
 
 
 
 
  -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  Kirk,
 
  It sounds like you would do well as a TM Sidha if you're not
  already.  In theory, you can do good both for the world and
  yourself.
 
  Nonetheless, your case appears to parallel that of Job in the Old
  Testament.  He too questioned: why me?
 
  JR
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@
  wrote:
  
   Sure grate.swan, I feel you. Well after that year my life
  collapsed
  as far
   as dreams and ambitions go and sometimes I will now just be 
 doing
  absolutely
   nothing with nothing in mind to do. I had crashed, and as a
  friend
  of mine
   puts it, gone through the bottom. I am still bottoming out 
 too
  most
   likely. People ask me often what's going on, and I always
  say, totally
   nothing! I have ceased to live for meaning and live really for
  the
  moment.
  
   I have to thank my wife for her support which has kept me going
  through all
   these years when I have never really fit into society and the
  every
  day work
   force. I also want to thank my unique few friends in NOLA for
  having also
   nothing to do and so being able to hang out. Shout out to the
  local
  lama for
   also just hanging around with nothing in mind to do especially.
  And
  then I
   praise this group which altogether takes on the characteristic
  of 'friend.'
   FFLife takes on the sense of nagging spiritual subconscious in
  the
  back of
   my mind.
  
   I want to do iboga treatment under the care of a Bwiti 
 tribesman.
  But for
   lack of a plane ticket could anyone from outside the US who can
  buy
  ibogaine
   for me and mail it to me? Like a Canadian?  Please PM me if you
  would help.
   I will keep our correspondence entirely secret.  Let me know.
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:17 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas
  
  
   i also have found it easy at times in my life to lose focus on
  what
is directly in front of me, and let my thirst for greater
  spirtual
presence to blind me to my daily responsibilities. a dear
  friend
  of
mine sometimes reminds me to just be where i am. it is great
  advice.
there is not actual difference between what i can do from an
ordinary perspective, and engaging in a lot of mystical
  practices.
and the results, whatever they may be, speak for themselves.
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?

[Vaj]

Much better to just do Thogal practices, dark retreat, etc. They build  
tejas, the fire of vision. IME, psychedelics, even ones lovingly  
prepared by experts at entheogen formulations, sap the body of tejas.  
When I look at someone who's been tripping, the tejas shine is gone  
from their aura. They have a grayness.


I think pure MDMA (Ecstasy) is much better than any psychedelic, the  
experiences are much more helpful and much easier to integrate.


On Feb 4, 2009, at 5:59 PM, Kirk wrote:

Sure, I am a fan of Torch cactus and know a cheap source for it.  
check out
www.compras-peru.com  It's good stuff if you're into that sort of  
thing. :)


Yet iboga is iboga and I'm mainly looking to travel to the other  
side of

addictive tendencies.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?

[Kirk]

Actually MDMA is derivative of Mescaline. Mescaline is the original plant of 
the psychedelic era itself creating the explosion which led to desire for LSD.  

Thogal shmogel ;)

Ah, actually I don't like to trip any more. I'm over it. What is nice though is 
the taste of a slice of fresh torch cactus in ones morning coffee just for 
extra bitter alkaline kick. If you're like me then any drug at all in ones 
blood is metabolized and one is thankful for it. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Vaj 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 5:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?


  Much better to just do Thogal practices, dark retreat, etc. They build tejas, 
the fire of vision. IME, psychedelics, even ones lovingly prepared by experts 
at entheogen formulations, sap the body of tejas. When I look at someone who's 
been tripping, the tejas shine is gone from their aura. They have a 
grayness.


  I think pure MDMA (Ecstasy) is much better than any psychedelic, the 
experiences are much more helpful and much easier to integrate.


  On Feb 4, 2009, at 5:59 PM, Kirk wrote:


Sure, I am a fan of Torch cactus and know a cheap source for it. check out 
www.compras-peru.com  It's good stuff if you're into that sort of thing. :)

Yet iboga is iboga and I'm mainly looking to travel to the other side of 
addictive tendencies.





  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas

[yifuxero]

--- My new experimental SPACE-TIME program is designed to produce 
changes in relative existence, for example, to improve the working 
environment.   I frankly couldn't live without chanting since the 
practice helps me a great deal at work in a. protection from evil 
influences, and b. finding lost files.
 This is strictly a relative-existence program and doesn't have 
much of an influence re: the Transcendent.
Some things to keep in mind:
1. results improve over time and are somewhat cumulative since 
causes - effects, - more causes - effects, endlessly but the 
branching trees of causation/effects are manifested only with 
vigorous effort and time to implement.  I started chanting mantras in 
1972 with Nam Myoho Renge Kyo; which as everybody knows, is chanted 
to a Gohonzon or mandala.

2. Currently I have a SPACE/TIME program, using (for the TIME part); 
the Mayan TZOLKIN calendar as my mandala:
http://lucidcrossroads.co.uk/mayan.htm
Then, as the mantra I use a modified form of a short mantra to the 
Medicine Master Buddha.

3. As to the SPACE part of the program, I used a TERMA or Treasures 
found in Space set of mantras and visual focal points.  The SPACE 
part will be revealed at a later date.  The SPACE program is a great 
asset since it helps me locate missing files.

However, a major test of my program will be to purchase a winning 
lottery ticket worth at least one million bucks.  In other words, I 
hope to purchase a winning ticking at the appropriate TIME and PLACE.

But the program is useful for other purposes.  Just a half an hour 
ago somebody at work said he was suffering from gall stones and was 
out for a few days.  I gave him some information on some possible 
cures along with some supplements, including lecithin (a fat 
dissolver). 



In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:

 Is this the sort of thing you're talking about?
 http://www.astrodreamadvisor.com/free_mayan_readings.html
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: yifuxero yifux...@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:13 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas
 
 
  ---Tzolkin - for changing time, it's structure; not timelessness 
  necessarily.
  http://www.ncane.com/t224
  
  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote:
 
  Yeah, had some Kaal Bhairav yajnas done once for timeliness. I 
see 
  what 
  you're getting at.  I don't know, personal sadhana reminds me 
all 
  power in 
  the present, etc time not such a factor really... 10 minutes 
a 
  day 
  really, you must think I'm cheap.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: yifuxero yifuxero@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:49 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pujas/Yajnas
  
  
   -
   Maybe the Mayans can help, with the TIME factor.  Bring up a 
pic 
  of
   the Mayan Tzolkin and chant some mantras to it.  Do this for 
10
   minutes per day.  Note the results and report back.
   http://www.mayanmajix.com/ancient_F1.html
  
  
  
  
   -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   Kirk,
  
   It sounds like you would do well as a TM Sidha if you're not
   already.  In theory, you can do good both for the world and
   yourself.
  
   Nonetheless, your case appears to parallel that of Job in the 
Old
   Testament.  He too questioned: why me?
  
   JR
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@
   wrote:
   
Sure grate.swan, I feel you. Well after that year my life
   collapsed
   as far
as dreams and ambitions go and sometimes I will now just be 
  doing
   absolutely
nothing with nothing in mind to do. I had crashed, and as a
   friend
   of mine
puts it, gone through the bottom. I am still bottoming 
out 
  too
   most
likely. People ask me often what's going on, and I always
   say, totally
nothing! I have ceased to live for meaning and live really 
for
   the
   moment.
   
I have to thank my wife for her support which has kept me 
going
   through all
these years when I have never really fit into society and 
the
   every
   day work
force. I also want to thank my unique few friends in NOLA 
for
   having also
nothing to do and so being able to hang out. Shout out to 
the
   local
   lama for
also just hanging around with nothing in mind to do 
especially.
   And
   then I
praise this group which altogether takes on the 
characteristic
   of 'friend.'
FFLife takes on the sense of nagging spiritual subconscious 
in
   the
   back of
my mind.
   
I want to do iboga treatment under the care of a Bwiti 
  tribesman.
   But for
lack of a plane ticket could anyone from outside the US who 
can
   buy
   ibogaine
for me and mail it to me? Like a Canadian?  Please PM me if 
you
   would help.
I will keep our correspondence entirely secret.  Let me 
know.
   
- Original Message - 
From: enlightened_dawn11 

Re: [FairfieldLife] 60,000,000 geniuses (Re: Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap)

[Bhairitu]

Now explain to us what are Americans supposed to do for a living?  And 
hey while we're at it what jobs are there for 60 something since we're 
supposed to work until we drop dead?

Can we say that Edg is a bit idealistic?  Or is that putting it mildly?  
:-D


Duveyoung wrote:
 Actually, it's more like 30 million geniuses if you use 140 I.Q. as
 your cutoff point.  1/2 of 1% of the population is 140 or higher.

 140 isn't transcendental; it's not a gimme that you can take advanced
 courses in math, but probably you'll be able to do anything that needs
 smartsany industry, anything, anything.

 When you read about the private lives of these folks, you can see the
 grind of their daily lives and how they must feel like those around
 them are in mental molasses compared to them.  I used to teach Special
 Education, so I know the relative feeling, but, nope, me ain't no
 genius here -- and close only counts in horseshoes.

 Yeah, motivation and all that can make or break a potential
 potentate's chances of getting the big score, but it is only now that
 so many prohibitions to fully expressing one's abilities are
 evaporating.  If you've ever talked to a customer service rep in
 India, you know that the world is getting small and connected fast in
 just this way across the board.

 Let's hope that good hearts too are becoming enabled to rise. One
 wonders how many Obamas now stir in Africa.  

 Today's American employer has to sift 200 applicants to get a genius
 -- but they can find them a lot easier in Asia and pay them less.  As
 these folks get into the mix, they'll start seeing that they don't
 have to be a wage slave and can start exploring how to be a have and
 leave the have-nots behind.  

 Pretty soon, when you turn on your TV, it'll be every race and
 cultural background as employers get more and more blind to everything
 but mojo, pizzaz, oomph, and clarity.  Pity your local  white
 supremacist; its ever so much easier for them to be afraid these days.
  No wonder they've all gone into guns -- their only chance to go toe
 to toe, ya see?

 Elitism will be the next gen's biggest challenge as machines and the
 top minds render the rest of humanity as less and less useful and too
 hard to feed, clothe, education, heal, etc.  

 Entitlement -- ask any Nazi about it.

 Edg

   

[FairfieldLife] 60,000,000 geniuses (Re: Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap)

[wayback71]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 Actually, it's more like 30 million geniuses if you use 140 I.Q. as
 your cutoff point.  1/2 of 1% of the population is 140 or higher.
 
 140 isn't transcendental; it's not a gimme that you can take advanced
 courses in math, but probably you'll be able to do anything that needs
 smartsany industry, anything, anything.
 
 When you read about the private lives of these folks, you can see the
 grind of their daily lives and how they must feel like those around
 them are in mental molasses compared to them.  I used to teach Special
 Education, so I know the relative feeling, but, nope, me ain't no
 genius here -- and close only counts in horseshoes.
 
 Yeah, motivation and all that can make or break a potential
 potentate's chances of getting the big score, but it is only now that
 so many prohibitions to fully expressing one's abilities are
 evaporating.  If you've ever talked to a customer service rep in
 India, you know that the world is getting small and connected fast in
 just this way across the board.
 
 Let's hope that good hearts too are becoming enabled to rise. One
 wonders how many Obamas now stir in Africa.  
 
 Today's American employer has to sift 200 applicants to get a genius
 -- but they can find them a lot easier in Asia and pay them less.  As
 these folks get into the mix, they'll start seeing that they don't
 have to be a wage slave and can start exploring how to be a have and
 leave the have-nots behind.  
 
 Pretty soon, when you turn on your TV, it'll be every race and
 cultural background as employers get more and more blind to everything
 but mojo, pizzaz, oomph, and clarity.  Pity your local  white
 supremacist; its ever so much easier for them to be afraid these days.
  No wonder they've all gone into guns -- their only chance to go toe
 to toe, ya see?
 
 Elitism will be the next gen's biggest challenge as machines and the
 top minds render the rest of humanity as less and less useful and too
 hard to feed, clothe, education, heal, etc.  
 
 Entitlement -- ask any Nazi about it.
 
 Edg

I have sons coming of age very soon and even before the economic mess  -was 
concerned 
about the global market of young people wanting jobs. The competition seems 
overwhelming, frankly.  And the IQ thing is somewhat true.  However, I believe 
research 
shows that folks with super hi IQ's often don't do so well in life and work - 
they are so far 
beyond us intellectually while their social skills often got underdeveloped.  
People with IQ's 
of 130 to 150 ought to do real well, and you are right - more of them will be 
able to have 
mainstream lives quite soon.  Let's hope they contribute some great ideas so 
the planet 
survives.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  What is the IQ of these 60 million?  How do you know you aren't one of 
  them or are you just playing humble?  I would think quite a few on this 
  group fit in the 60 million.  And intelligence can be expressed in 
  different ways.  Some people appear intelligent because they've been 
  able to memorize a bunch of facts but faced with a problem may not be 
  able to solve it.  Some appear intelligent because they can write in 
  flowery words or academic prose but not express an original idea.
  
  I'm not sure it is intelligence that gets these people those high
 income 
  gigs.  In cases I've seen it is being smart enough to cover their butt 
  and bluff while storming up the hill blindly.   While others wiser
 might 
  weigh all the consequences and decide it such a venture is not worth a 
  risk.  It looks like we've had quite a few financial execs who have 
  charged up the hill and gone right over the cliff taking their too big 
  to fail organization with them.  Such bravado.
  
  Then you have to think about Bill McGuire who's exit compensation from 
  United Health was over a billion dollars.  That means that a lot of 
  people who had insurance with that company were denied claims to give 
  that bastard such an outrageous amount. He's got to be one of the 
  greatest con artists in history.
  
  
  Duveyoung wrote:
   Six billion people means sixty million geniuses.
  
   What most folks don't know about geniuses is HOW MUCH SMARTER they
   are.  You know how you feel when you meet a person of obvious low
   I.Q.?  There's 60,000,000 folks out there who would feel the same
   about you -- only, you know, for a lot more reason.  They're that far
   beyond you.  
  
   Do the math.  The world's smartys are just now coming online - that is
   -- they can escape their cultures using the Internet to come up to
   speed and see that, what?, that the world is ripe for the pickin's.  
  
   Same deal for the other special folks with sport, music, etc.
   abilities.  All of them are getting the tools to bootstrap
 themselves.  
  
   Sounds good, eh?  
  
   I tremble.  I'm not one of the sixty million.  I can be 

[FairfieldLife] Ian Xel Lungold, (1949 - 2005)

[yifuxero]

http://www.mayanmajix.com/gb250.html

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[FairfieldLife] Moon count

[yifuxero]

-Moon count: 13 moons...
http://www.13moon.com/cosmic_seed.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry inmadi...@... wrote:

 
 I've got a brother-in-law who has a heart attack, dragged half dead to
 the hospital, cut open from bow to stern . . . 
 
 and he walked out of that hospital an advaita thru and thru.  He's
 never heard of the concept, or come across any of its precepts.
 
 But he speaks of the meaninglessness of worldly pursuits, how his
 daily duties only left him only with fears and anxieties - he
 experienced a discontent that went right to his core.  That dude has
 really lightened up.



Nothing like a near miss to inspire life change.  Unfortunately, after
a while most forget how mortal they are and go back to being the
person they were before.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheism

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho
arhatafreespe...@... wrote:

 An atheist is more that a non believer in god.
   http://www.atheists .org/Atheism/
 http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/


That is why I said you cannot be a TMist and an atheist.

[FairfieldLife] Coming of the Galactic Federation - 2013

[yifuxero]

:

We are living in a most interesting time. From the Mayan perspective 
and from many other perspectives: These are the End Times. This is 
the time of prophecy. Just about everybody has heard of the date 
2012. Most people hear this date and say, Hmm, isn't that when the 
Mayan calendar ends? This is the stock answer. The Mayan calendar 
doesn't end in 2012. The Mayan calendar is based on cycles within 
cycles within cycles. What happens in 2012 is the ending of a major 
cycle. For some reason or other the 2012 date, more than any other 
date of prophecies has stuck in people's minds and imagination. 2012 
is a marker, it's a wake up call in our DNA. Why is this? 

For the Maya, 2012 is the ending of what is usually referred to as 
the Great Cycle. The Great Cycle is a 5,125 year cycle that began at 
the date 13.0.0.0.0 on the Mayan calendar. On the Gregorian/Julian 
calendar that date is August 13 B.C. 3113. What happened at that 
point? If you go look back in your history books you can find most 
Western history books say the history of civilization began about 
3100 B.C., this is 13 years off from the Mayan Long Count which 
says, No to be precise according to your calendar that would be 
August 13, 3113 B.C. 

The present Kali Yuga cycle of the Hindus began just 11 years later 
in 3102 B.C., this is supposedly when Lord Krishna disincarnated and 
then the Kali Yuga began. Kali Yuga is the final and darkest age. For 
the Maya, history did begin at 3113 B.C. The first dynasty of Egypt 
was established circa 3100 B.C. The first city in history was founded 
circa 3100 B.C. That was the city of Uruk, from which the name Iraq 
is derived. Uruk was founded by seven wise men at the beginning of 
history in Mesopotamia. If you look at the history books you will see 
that virtually everything we think of as the history of civilization 
began at that point and slowly builds up from there—this is the 
Babylonian/Mesopotamian origin of civilization. Mayans say that this 
whole cycle of civilization 5,125 years comes to an end on the Winter 
Solstice December 21, 2012 A.D. This is now a little less that nine 
years away—that's not very far away. 

Before the first year of the Third Millennium was over there was a 
big event of which everyone is acutely aware. This event was known as 
the 9-11. This was the apocalyptic event to set the tone for the fact 
that we are now all on the Road to 2012. All the signs point to 2012. 
No one gets to the future without going through December 21, 2012. 
What does this mean, the end of the cycle? What is actually going on 
right now in the world that gives us any clue as to why things are 
happening the way they are happening now. And who were the ancient 
Maya that they knew these things so well? 

On December 21, 2012 a cycle will be complete. A cycle of what the 
Maya called 13 baktuns. There are 13 baktuns between 3113 B.C. and 
2012. A baktun is a cycle of exactly 144,000 days. Thirteen cycles of 
144,000 days and you come to the completion of a cycle. This cycle is 
what we call the cycle of history or the cycle of civilization. This 
cycle is a very interesting one in the history of the Earth and the 
evolution of the solar system, and even the history of the galaxy. 

Dec. 21, 2012 also marks the ending of a larger cycle, a cycle of 
26,000 years. This is a long cycle. There is also a larger cycle than 
this that closes on Dec. 21, 2012: a cycle of 104,000 years. All of 
these cycles are coming to a conclusion or a convergent point in 2012.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Finances

[ruthsimplicity]

Hard to tell much from the 990s.  I just recently looked at the David
Lynch Foundation 990 for tax year 2006, the most recent.  It had 2.4
million in revenues and spent about 1.3 million on programs.  Not much
went out in director compensation.  None to Lynch.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Finances

[yifuxero]

---http://starroot.com/wb/pages/gallery.php


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote:

 Hard to tell much from the 990s.  I just recently looked at the David
 Lynch Foundation 990 for tax year 2006, the most recent.  It had 2.4
 million in revenues and spent about 1.3 million on programs.  Not much
 went out in director compensation.  None to Lynch.

[FairfieldLife] Special event tomorrow, Thursday

[Dick Mays]

Special event tomorrow, Thursday

Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is going to do Puja tomorrow (Thursday, 
February 5) at 7:10 p.m. Meru time (which is 12:10 p.m. in Maharishi 
Vedic City and Maharishi University of Management) with the Rajas, 
Ministers and Raj Rajeshwaris, followed by group meditation.


This will be the one year solar anniversary of Maharishi's Mahasamadhi.

We will all join together in the Domes at that time (12:10 p.m. 
Thursday, February 5) to do Puja (in both Domes), and then have group 
meditation before lunch.


Teachers:  If you are teaching tomorrow, make sure that all of your 
students get to the Domes before 12:10.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Finances

[boo_lives]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  
  On Feb 4, 2009, at 2:48 PM, boo_lives wrote:
  
   I also noticed though that it gave almost $12 million to Maharishi
   Vedic Education Development Corp, located on MUM campus, whose 
 purpose
   is to teach TM according to the filing.
  
  
  So would that be 12,000,000 USD for proselytizing and teaching TM,  
  kind of like a TM missionary fund? Since they're not having any  
  success selling it, they're giving it away as a strategic tool, like  
  Neo-Vedic missionaries?
 
 
 The TMO must be earning money one way or another from its various 
 organizations.  There must be new meditators who have bought in to the 
 program.  Otherwise, the TMO will have to operate by donations through 
 its active members.

There are no new meditators, it's almost all donations which is
counted the same as revenues in nonprofits.

It was pointed out to me that VEDC that year most likely had to do
with the enlightenment centers in malls, that whole recertified thing.
 The high occupancy and salary amounts were for the malls and recerts
running them.  The other tmo fund had to transfer $12 million that
year to VEDC because that's what it probably lost that first year on
the enlightenment centers.  When the new VEDC financials come out,
they probably won't show so much activity since that idea has died.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Finances

[Marek Reavis]

This is some great stuff, I love the exuberance and vitality.  I'm a 
big fan of psychedelic art, when it's really reflective of its source; 
this is wonderful to look at, get into, and enjoy.

The bear on standup bass is one of many favorites.  Thanks for that.

Marek

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:

 ---http://starroot.com/wb/pages/gallery.php
 
 
  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Hard to tell much from the 990s.  I just recently looked at the 
David
  Lynch Foundation 990 for tax year 2006, the most recent.  It had 
2.4
  million in revenues and spent about 1.3 million on programs.  Not 
much
  went out in director compensation.  None to Lynch.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Finances

[yifuxero]

---Painted by Starroot.  Bio says she had a near death experience 
then started painting based on downloaded visionary experiences.
 http://starroot.com/wb/pages/bio.php




In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... 
wrote:

 This is some great stuff, I love the exuberance and vitality.  I'm 
a 
 big fan of psychedelic art, when it's really reflective of its 
source; 
 this is wonderful to look at, get into, and enjoy.
 
 The bear on standup bass is one of many favorites.  Thanks for that.
 
 Marek
 
 **
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:
 
  ---http://starroot.com/wb/pages/gallery.php
  
  
   In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   Hard to tell much from the 990s.  I just recently looked at the 
 David
   Lynch Foundation 990 for tax year 2006, the most recent.  It 
had 
 2.4
   million in revenues and spent about 1.3 million on programs.  
Not 
 much
   went out in director compensation.  None to Lynch.
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Moon count

[Fairfield Lifer]

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:51 PM, yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com wrote:


 -Moon count: 13 moons...
 http://www.13moon.com/cosmic_seed.htm



That sound track sounds very familiar.  Like it was lifted from the
Monroe Institute.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Finances

[Fairfield Lifer]

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:58 PM, yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com wrote:
 ---Painted by Starroot.  Bio says she had a near death experience
 then started painting based on downloaded visionary experiences.
  http://starroot.com/wb/pages/bio.php

Which torrent client did she use to download the experiences?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheism

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho
 arhatafreespeech@ wrote:
 
  An atheist is more that a non believer in god.
    http://www.atheists .org/Atheism/
  http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/
 
 That is why I said you cannot be a TMist and an atheist.

According to the first definition at this link--

Atheism is a doctrine that states that nothing exists
but natural phenomena (matter), that thought is a
property or function of matter, and that death
irreversibly and totally terminates individual organic
units. This definition means that there are no forces,
phenomena, or entities which exist outside of or apart
from physical nature, or which transcend nature, or are
super natural, nor can there be. Humankind is on its
own.

--many who think of themselves as atheists cannot be
atheists.

This appears to be a definition of materialism rather
than atheism.

It's not clear what Ruth means by the slimy-sounding
term TMist, and it's interesting that she chooses
to leave it undefined. But the more elaborate
definition that follows the one above is certainly
one to which I and many other committed TMers could
subscribe:

The following definition of Atheism was given to the
Supreme Court of the United States in the case of
Murray v. Curlett, 374 U.S. 203, 83 S. Ct. 1560,
10 L.Ed.2d (MD, 1963), to remove reverential Bible
reading and oral unison recitation of the Lord's
Prayer in the public schools.

'Your petitioners are Atheists and they define their
beliefs as follows. An Atheist loves his fellow man
instead of god. An Atheist believes that heaven is
something for which we should work now – here on earth
for all men together to enjoy.

'An Atheist believes that he can get no help through
prayer but that he must find in himself the inner
conviction, and strength to meet life, to grapple with
it, to subdue it and enjoy it.

An Atheist believes that only in a knowledge of
himself and a knowledge of his fellow man can he find
the understanding that will help to a life of
fulfillment.

'He seeks to know himself and his fellow man rather
than to know a god. An Atheist believes that a hospital
should be built instead of a church. An Atheist believes
that a deed must be done instead of a prayer said. An
Atheist strives for involvement in life and not escape
into death. He wants disease conquered, poverty
vanquished, war eliminated. He wants man to understand
and love man.

'He wants an ethical way of life. He believes that we
cannot rely on a god or channel action into prayer nor
hope for an end of troubles in a hereafter.

'He believes that we are our brother's keepers; and
are keepers of our own lives; that we are responsible
persons and the job is here and the time is now.'

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Finances

[yifuxero]

---good question!  Maybe from...

http://yogilin.net/graphics/amitabha.jpg


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Fairfield Lifer 
fairfield.li...@... wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:58 PM, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
  ---Painted by Starroot.  Bio says she had a near death experience
  then started painting based on downloaded visionary experiences.
   http://starroot.com/wb/pages/bio.php
 
 Which torrent client did she use to download the experiences?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy, MMY was a Potentate! (new books on Maharishi ???)

[enlightened_dawn11]

beautifully said. absolutely accurately put. no one could say it 
better than you have, even the greatest teachers. very, very well 
said. thank you!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ 
wrote:
 
  BC is exploring the fullness and texture of motion found in the
 stillness of 
  CC :)
 
 I like to put it this way; when you realize the spark of God that
 exists as your own soul in its fullness, that is CC.  When that
 singular experience grows to embrace the soul of the manifest 
World,
 that is GC, and when that experience melts into unbounded 
unmanifest
 consciousness that is Unity or BC.
 
 According to MMY all the great souls 'bodies' remain in he Akasha
 tattwa until the time of dissolution or pralaya, they have bodies
 similar to houses made of glass bricks, enabling the light (glow) 
to
 shine through. They can take any body on any plane at any time if 
God
 so wills it, according to some sources. They are one with the 
light.

[FairfieldLife] Hillary Watch

[raunchydog]

Keep up to date on Foreign Policy. 
http://hillary.foreignpolicy.com/

Stay connected with like minded folks who want to share ideas and
experiences, common goals, and nonpartisan solutions to the challenges
we face, working for a better future for children and families.
http://nolimits.org/

U.S. Department of State
http://www.state.gov/

[FairfieldLife] 60,000,000 geniuses (Re: Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap)

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 waybac...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Actually, it's more like 30 million geniuses if you use 140 I.Q. as
  your cutoff point.  1/2 of 1% of the population is 140 or higher.
  
  140 isn't transcendental; it's not a gimme that you can take advanced
  courses in math, but probably you'll be able to do anything that needs
  smartsany industry, anything, anything.
  
  When you read about the private lives of these folks, you can see the
  grind of their daily lives and how they must feel like those around
  them are in mental molasses compared to them.  I used to teach Special
  Education, so I know the relative feeling, but, nope, me ain't no
  genius here -- and close only counts in horseshoes.
  
  Yeah, motivation and all that can make or break a potential
  potentate's chances of getting the big score, but it is only now that
  so many prohibitions to fully expressing one's abilities are
  evaporating.  If you've ever talked to a customer service rep in
  India, you know that the world is getting small and connected fast in
  just this way across the board.
  
  Let's hope that good hearts too are becoming enabled to rise. One
  wonders how many Obamas now stir in Africa.  
  
  Today's American employer has to sift 200 applicants to get a genius
  -- but they can find them a lot easier in Asia and pay them less.  As
  these folks get into the mix, they'll start seeing that they don't
  have to be a wage slave and can start exploring how to be a have and
  leave the have-nots behind.  
  
  Pretty soon, when you turn on your TV, it'll be every race and
  cultural background as employers get more and more blind to everything
  but mojo, pizzaz, oomph, and clarity.  Pity your local  white
  supremacist; its ever so much easier for them to be afraid these days.
   No wonder they've all gone into guns -- their only chance to go toe
  to toe, ya see?
  
  Elitism will be the next gen's biggest challenge as machines and the
  top minds render the rest of humanity as less and less useful and too
  hard to feed, clothe, education, heal, etc.  
  
  Entitlement -- ask any Nazi about it.
  
  Edg
 
 I have sons coming of age very soon and even before the economic
mess  -was concerned 
 about the global market of young people wanting jobs. The
competition seems 
 overwhelming, frankly.  And the IQ thing is somewhat true.  However,
I believe research 
 shows that folks with super hi IQ's often don't do so well in life
and work - they are so far 
 beyond us intellectually while their social skills often got
underdeveloped.  People with IQ's 
 of 130 to 150 ought to do real well, and you are right - more of
them will be able to have 
 mainstream lives quite soon.  Let's hope they contribute some great
ideas so the planet 
 survives.

Snip,
  It is maybe some sort of snob thinking that overlooks the importance
of the simple people going about their work.
  The guy collecting rubbish at the curb, the worker checking on
systems at the sewage treatment plant, the guy driving spikes on the
railroad, the truck driver, the building trades people, all of this
doesn't require a top level IQ but they are no less important.
  A lot of people look down on farmers who work long hours in
sometimes very miserable conditions but, as one bumper sticker I saw
pointed out-- NO farms, No food.   N.
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?

[grate . swan]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:

 Actually MDMA is derivative of Mescaline. Mescaline is the original
plant of the psychedelic era itself creating the explosion which led
to desire for LSD.  

What a lot of people seem to miss, not you, is that the effect of 
drugs, coffee, alcohol is not the thing in themselves, but its how
they stimulate or dampen various neurotransmitters  such as dopamine,
serotonin, norepinephrine, melatonin, GABA etc and their multiple
receptors. As does, exercise. meditation, and various foods and
spices, sex and aging. Grumpy old men? Nah, its the reduction of
serotonin that occurs with age.
 
 

 
 Thogal shmogel ;)
 
 Ah, actually I don't like to trip any more. I'm over it. What is
nice though is the taste of a slice of fresh torch cactus in ones
morning coffee just for extra bitter alkaline kick. If you're like me
then any drug at all in ones blood is metabolized and one is thankful
for it. 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Vaj 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 5:16 PM
   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?
 
 
   Much better to just do Thogal practices, dark retreat, etc. They
build tejas, the fire of vision. IME, psychedelics, even ones lovingly
prepared by experts at entheogen formulations, sap the body of tejas.
When I look at someone who's been tripping, the tejas shine is gone
from their aura. They have a grayness.
 
 
   I think pure MDMA (Ecstasy) is much better than any psychedelic,
the experiences are much more helpful and much easier to integrate.
 
 
   On Feb 4, 2009, at 5:59 PM, Kirk wrote:
 
 
 Sure, I am a fan of Torch cactus and know a cheap source for it.
check out 
 www.compras-peru.com  It's good stuff if you're into that sort
of thing. :)
 
 Yet iboga is iboga and I'm mainly looking to travel to the other
side of 
 addictive tendencies.

[FairfieldLife] 60,000,000 geniuses (Re: Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap)

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@...
wrote:

   It is maybe some sort of snob thinking that overlooks the importance
 of the simple people going about their work.
   The guy collecting rubbish at the curb, the worker checking on
 systems at the sewage treatment plant, the guy driving spikes on the
 railroad, the truck driver, the building trades people, all of this
 doesn't require a top level IQ but they are no less important.
   A lot of people look down on farmers who work long hours in
 sometimes very miserable conditions but, as one bumper sticker I saw
 pointed out-- NO farms, No food.   N.

With the U.S. job market in the crapper, and the college tuition
through the roof, the next time you call a plumber to fix your
crapper, don't be surprised if he has a genius I.Q. and your roofer
goes to mensa meetings. Actually, there is a lot to know about farming
and farmers often get education through farm extension programs and
National Young Farmer Educational Association.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for Advaita?

[yifuxero]

-right...multiple factors hitting us from various angles.  Important 
supplement to offset aging MENA-Q-7. (restores Ca to bones and 
extracts it from soft tissues not needing calcification, like the 
brain, arteriesetc). 


-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ 
wrote:
 
  Actually MDMA is derivative of Mescaline. Mescaline is the 
original
 plant of the psychedelic era itself creating the explosion which led
 to desire for LSD.  
 
 What a lot of people seem to miss, not you, is that the effect of 
 drugs, coffee, alcohol is not the thing in themselves, but its how
 they stimulate or dampen various neurotransmitters  such as 
dopamine,
 serotonin, norepinephrine, melatonin, GABA etc and their multiple
 receptors. As does, exercise. meditation, and various foods and
 spices, sex and aging. Grumpy old men? Nah, its the reduction of
 serotonin that occurs with age.
  
  
 
  
  Thogal shmogel ;)
  
  Ah, actually I don't like to trip any more. I'm over it. What is
 nice though is the taste of a slice of fresh torch cactus in ones
 morning coffee just for extra bitter alkaline kick. If you're like 
me
 then any drug at all in ones blood is metabolized and one is 
thankful
 for it. 
- Original Message - 
From: Vaj 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are There Prerequisites for 
Advaita?
  
  
Much better to just do Thogal practices, dark retreat, etc. They
 build tejas, the fire of vision. IME, psychedelics, even ones 
lovingly
 prepared by experts at entheogen formulations, sap the body of 
tejas.
 When I look at someone who's been tripping, the tejas shine is 
gone
 from their aura. They have a grayness.
  
  
I think pure MDMA (Ecstasy) is much better than any 
psychedelic,
 the experiences are much more helpful and much easier to integrate.
  
  
On Feb 4, 2009, at 5:59 PM, Kirk wrote:
  
  
  Sure, I am a fan of Torch cactus and know a cheap source for 
it.
 check out 
  www.compras-peru.com  It's good stuff if you're into that sort
 of thing. :)
  
  Yet iboga is iboga and I'm mainly looking to travel to the 
other
 side of 
  addictive tendencies.
 

[FairfieldLife] 60,000,000 geniuses (Re: Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap)

[yifuxero]

--or, they could really be Irish Travelers.  Neat group!
http://www.rickross.com/reference/irish_travelers/irish_travelers6.htm
l



- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@
 wrote:
 
It is maybe some sort of snob thinking that overlooks the 
importance
  of the simple people going about their work.
The guy collecting rubbish at the curb, the worker checking on
  systems at the sewage treatment plant, the guy driving spikes on 
the
  railroad, the truck driver, the building trades people, all of 
this
  doesn't require a top level IQ but they are no less important.
A lot of people look down on farmers who work long hours in
  sometimes very miserable conditions but, as one bumper sticker I 
saw
  pointed out-- NO farms, No food.   N.
 
 With the U.S. job market in the crapper, and the college tuition
 through the roof, the next time you call a plumber to fix your
 crapper, don't be surprised if he has a genius I.Q. and your roofer
 goes to mensa meetings. Actually, there is a lot to know about 
farming
 and farmers often get education through farm extension programs and
 National Young Farmer Educational Association.

Re: [FairfieldLife] 60,000,000 geniuses (Re: Greedy Bastards Whine Over Obama's Pay Cap)

[Arhata Osho]

IQ is 'Intellectual Quotient' - quite different from 'Intelligence' quotient 
(which no one has figured out how to measure).  HIgh IQ's with low to average 
EQ's are boring and good
'computers' (sometimes).
Arhata












--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ 
...

wrote:



   It is maybe some sort of snob thinking that overlooks the importance

 of the simple people going about their work.

   The guy collecting rubbish at the curb, the worker checking on

 systems at the sewage treatment plant, the guy driving spikes on the

 railroad, the truck driver, the building trades people, all of this

 doesn't require a top level IQ but they are no less important.

   A lot of people look down on farmers who work long hours in

 sometimes very miserable conditions but, as one bumper sticker I saw

 pointed out-- NO farms, No food.   N.



With the U.S. job market in the crapper, and the college tuition

through the roof, the next time you call a plumber to fix your

crapper, don't be surprised if he has a genius I.Q. and your roofer

goes to mensa meetings. Actually, there is a lot to know about farming

and farmers often get education through farm extension programs and

National Young Farmer Educational Association.




 

  



   
  


 

















  

[FairfieldLife] Introduction to the Irish Travelers

[yifuxero]

http://www.slate.com/id/2071456/

[FairfieldLife] Fw: Emerging Earth Angels - Emerging Earth Angels

[Arhata Osho]

 


this just came to me i'll share it. Its just stuff, shes a lovely person, not a 
cult or a group. She lives alone with her daughter and grandaughte Don’t know 
about her trip its just something 
she shares, so i'll share it .

http://www.emergingearthangels.com/2009/wings2.4.2009.html