[FairfieldLife] Re: sorry Robin or anyone who's feelings I might have hurt today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Oh dear.  Alright.  Here's why I thought you made a judgment: SHARE:  Can't help feeling sad as I think how the people, including Juliette, in Raunchy's life will miss out on all the extra benefits because she doesn't have, psychologically speaking some of those cojones she often talks about.àShe doesn't have the cojones to actually go and see John Newton for herself.àSomething that would have been very easy for her to do THREE times this past year.àWhat's that about?àWhy hasn't she attended even one presentation to see for herself that John is authentic and has something of great value to offer her and through her the people in her life? EMILY:  You are assuming that John can help anyone, including Juliette.  Does Juliette need help?  There is an inherent judgment in this statement.  You don't think raunchy has the cojones to see John Newton.  There is a judgment in that statement.  And, she's lazy or something, considering she had 3 opportunities to see who you think is the cat's meow.  How could she have turned that down?  More inherent judgment.  What is that about, anyhow?  John may or may not be authentic...that's not the point.  The point is that *YOU* think he's authentic and has great value.  Maybe *Raunchy* doesn't.  Is that O.K. with you?  Apparently not, as not only should she be judged for not going herself, she should be judged for not promoting the idea to her granddaughter.  DO YOU SEE MY POINT?  Thanks for this, Emily. The overweening arrogance of Share's post was so presumptuous, even for her, I dismissed it as too ridiculous to deserve a respectful answer. No one is immune from ridicule on this forum. Maharishi gets a daily dish, so anyone claiming to be a spiritual teacher, especially a newbee like John Newton, is fair game. Share shouldn't flatter herself that I took a potshot at her spiritual teacher because of *her* I did it because it was fun. From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: sorry Robin or anyone who's feelings I might have hurt today  LOL RD and yes we're ok now. We are so fricking okay that we're beyond ok. But back to Judy. She accused me of lying again because I said to Emily that I made no judgement about your granddaughter. I guess she missed this from Emily to you: Although, given this comment about your granddaughter - judgment still reigns supreme in her being. Or perhaps Judy is once again way too subtle pour moi. Now just to make sure you're not fibbing, Raunch, what color are John's eyes? From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: sorry Robin or anyone who's feelings I might have hurt today  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Damn you DD...why is no one signing up for my Humiliation Therapy sessions - what am I doing wrong folks? Ravi, after Share's rant today, I realized she has you beat in the humiliation therapy department. Compared to her, you're just a hack. If ever I feel in need of humiliation from now on, she's my go to gal. She says she is sorry for hurting anyone's feelings. *Anyone* includes me, I hope. I'd feel terrible if she didn't include me. I believe she is sincerely sorry and because of the healing I received from John Newton today, I forgive her. Now exactly how that came to be is an interesting story: Share's rants today blew such a devastating hole in my auric field (recently pulsating red and green for Christmas) that I got down on my knees (no easy task) this afternoon and prayed to John Newton to forgive me for doubting his ability to make a goat faint. But beforehand, I knew if I were going to be *completely* healed I had to set forth the proper conditions to receive the full magnitude of his grace. I found a picture of him on the internet, downloaded it, printed it on card stock and set it upon a makeshift altar where I usually keep my kitchen spice rack. FYI His dreamy picture gives great darshan, and that's nothing to sneeze at even as it rests against the peppercorns. After I gazed into his eyes for about five minutes asking him for *complete* healing, I began to sweat profusely. I must have blacked out because two hours later the I woke up in a hospital, an IV stuck in my arm and my ass hanging out a hospital gown. I asked a doctor what happened. He said my blood pressure had been so low when EMS arrived at my house that he thinks I must have fainted. Upon hearing those words, a most miraculous calm came over me
[FairfieldLife] If you've ever looked into a mirror and seen Narcissus, you might be Edg
Edg, all these years on this forum and you still don't get why people respond to Curtis and don't bother to respond to you. He just lays shit out for the fun of it, for the fun of writing and for the fun of playing with words and ideas, and...uh...just for fun, period. Your response or non-response -- *anyone's* response or non- response -- is not part of the equation. You throw stuff out that you find fascinating and then throw a succession of tantrums when no one CARES whether water lines up like Nazi troops parading in front of the Reichstag when you shine a light on it. When people don't react, you go all drama queen about it, as if by not finding it interesting, they are saying that they don't find YOU interesting. Uh...scratch that. That may be exactly what their silence is saying. :-) One gets the feeling that Curtis doesn't take himself all SERIOUSLY and that he doesn't demand that others do. You, not so much. Just the opposite, in fact. I've been trying to clue you in to this side of yourself since you first appeared here, and you still seem oblivious to it. Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) take them and run with them and have fun with them. Your writings (along with several others' writing on this forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then demand payment, in the form of attention. Some of us have gotten used to marking them Return To Sender and sending them back unopened, that's all. Seriousness is not a virtue. - G.K. Chesterton --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Who's the smart one here? I merely mentioned you in passing, and I get about two thousand megawatts of Curtis placing words better than Shakespeare (that is: if Shakespeare were to be somehow resuscitated and, you know, had to catch up on life for a few years before he could be reasonably expected to write something more insightful than you.) So even if Shakespeare were to be here tomorrow, I'm going to be reading The Wisdom of Curtis for quite some time to come. Curtis rat-a-tats here so frequently that probably his nervous system could by now -- being hardwired so thoroughly -- type out at least three more words if his head were lopped off as he typed -- so passionately does he commit to being him, the whole him and only the him he thinks we should all regard him to be. That said, the man is a dolt. Like me. Like anyone. And that's because we're all such cowards. Cuz, you know, who WOULD want to believe in God? It's painful to begin with and requires ones death for certainty. When I believe in God, it hurts. Cuz all my other parts will do anything to keep me identified with them instead. Who doesn't blush when the concept God is omniscient is presented? Who hasn't earned a lump of coal? Curtis is afraid of God just like all of us. We all know how we could have saved the world, been saints, cured every problem, and then we decided TM was ersatz instead, and so God had to be denied or else we'd be sweating the after-life cuz we could be asked at the Pearly Gates just why we didn't do that good shit we cudda done and instead spent thousands and thousands of hours doing anything BUT. Being on FFL for instance. And Curtis cannot be squished into doing whatever it would take to get to where my view of God would be thereby finally validated to him due to his own nervous system having GROWN to such a stature that clarity finally was achieved. Nor can he squish me into his POV. (And he will for sure make a pun of squish. Probably a dirty pun.) And now to get to an actuality that Curtis has yet to respond to even though I've posted about it twice now. That is: the orderliness of water when light shines on it and what that means if one considers the orderliness of the WATER inside ONE'S OWN BRAINS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=XVBEwn6iWOo Curtis, my bud, come on, this video is made for you. You will eat this shit up. And then we can see if I can toggle ya about divinity being real instead of light being actual. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: On the other hand, after a hard day of battle the combatants of the Mahabharata would have dinner together around the campfires like actors backstage shedding their assumed characters. I kinda like that concept. But, I'm not fit for it, CUZ I EVEN CARRY GRUDGES AGAINST PEOPLE WHO BOTHERED ME IN MY NIGHTLY DREAMS. I'm trying not to contend these days, but there it is -- Doc, somehow got me to reply. If'n I was agunna contend it'd be against Curtis, but that guy just slips my grip every time I try to get him in a hammerlock about God. So,
[FairfieldLife] Gifts vs. Invoices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: ... Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) take them and run with them and have fun with them. Your writings (along with several others' writing on this forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then demand payment, in the form of attention. The more I think about this gift vs. invoices metaphor, the more multipurpose it becomes. Doesn't it, for example, describe the approach that Maharishi and the TM movement took and continue to take about what they presented to the world. While *calling* them gifts, and pretending benevolence, there was always a price tag attached. It started low -- only $35 US -- but soon escalated into the thousands of dollars, much more if you wanted the good stuff. Even now, when almost literally no one is signing up to learn *anything* the TMO has to offer unless 1) somebody else (like the DLF) pays for it for them, or 2) they're such TBs that they continue pressing the Ca-ching buttons on their bank accounts the way that rats keep pressing the food lever when you add sugar to it. Buck's *entire spiel* is about invoicing. He doesn't demand payment for his claims that butt-bouncers are saving the world...he just demands that the world give them the *credit* for saving it. Gifts are different. You still see that in some meditation traditions. They still teach for free, and once you have learned their basic meditation, they don't keep wheedling you to join a cult or buy more add-on accessories. Coming back to Curtis (my inspiration for this gifts vs. invoicing metaphor), it's easy to see where his generous 'tude came from -- busking. When you share your talents on the streets, you pretty much *have* to do it as gifts. Some people are going to respond and put some money in your guitar case, others aren't. You can't really let whether they do or not drive your performance, or it becomes mercenary and uninteresting. So instead you put your energy into making it the best performance you can give, regardless of whether the crowds appreciate it or not. What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much. I'm rapping about this because I honestly think that this invoicing metaphor characterizes much of what is said here on this forum. Judy and Robin and Ann and Emily and Ravi and Jimbo and Emily post something and essentially *demand* a reply. And if one is not forthcoming, and in the form that they wanted, they lash out and start calling people names. It seems to me that they could learn a little something from busking -- or even from writing for a living. Those who do this learn very quickly that NO ONE 'OWES' THEM A DAMN THING. You get a favorable response -- or any response at all -- by putting enough merit into what you say to deserve a response. For most people in the world, being presented with a tirade and then being told that they not only have to read it, they have to PAY for it in the form of a response is a bit of a turn-off.
[FairfieldLife] YF, HIT and diabetes mellitus II?
For TM'ers, Yogic Flying might be the most convenient exercise to prevent diabetes mellitus II, but for those, who are not yffers, HIT might be a good alternative: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7-h_w7bJrU
[FairfieldLife] how could I not send this?
which I just received from one of my best friends Happy Chanukah to you and yours!
[FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty about him. Did I miss something important? Anyway, I was glad she posted his info. Yeah, I got triggered by what Rancid Bu er Raunchy said about John. So what?! Oh right, like you all NEVER get triggered?! Or if you do, it's only about Really Important Stuff. Whatever! Emily I was not suggesting that anyone needed HELP from John Newton. I think I used the phrase EXTRA BENEFITS. And I think Raunchy knows exactly what I mean by people in her life in this context. BTW, yes we are moving onto other topics now. Slowly but surely. Kind of like Oozing Butter. Anyway, I aim to avoid using wts. Though even in recent posts there is evidence of more wts thinking. Sigh...a Butter Bouncer's work is never done (-:
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Very funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq01UYiMyHg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq01UYiMyHg
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and seen Narcissus, you might be Edg
Barry is the very definition of a Third Dreamer. Ignore him, Edg, he lives in fantasy land continuously. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Edg, all these years on this forum and you still don't get why people respond to Curtis and don't bother to respond to you. He just lays shit out for the fun of it, for the fun of writing and for the fun of playing with words and ideas, and...uh...just for fun, period. Your response or non-response -- *anyone's* response or non- response -- is not part of the equation. You throw stuff out that you find fascinating and then throw a succession of tantrums when no one CARES whether water lines up like Nazi troops parading in front of the Reichstag when you shine a light on it. When people don't react, you go all drama queen about it, as if by not finding it interesting, they are saying that they don't find YOU interesting. Uh...scratch that. That may be exactly what their silence is saying. :-) One gets the feeling that Curtis doesn't take himself all SERIOUSLY and that he doesn't demand that others do. You, not so much. Just the opposite, in fact. I've been trying to clue you in to this side of yourself since you first appeared here, and you still seem oblivious to it. Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) take them and run with them and have fun with them. Your writings (along with several others' writing on this forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then demand payment, in the form of attention. Some of us have gotten used to marking them Return To Sender and sending them back unopened, that's all. Seriousness is not a virtue. - G.K. Chesterton --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Who's the smart one here? I merely mentioned you in passing, and I get about two thousand megawatts of Curtis placing words better than Shakespeare (that is: if Shakespeare were to be somehow resuscitated and, you know, had to catch up on life for a few years before he could be reasonably expected to write something more insightful than you.) So even if Shakespeare were to be here tomorrow, I'm going to be reading The Wisdom of Curtis for quite some time to come. Curtis rat-a-tats here so frequently that probably his nervous system could by now -- being hardwired so thoroughly -- type out at least three more words if his head were lopped off as he typed -- so passionately does he commit to being him, the whole him and only the him he thinks we should all regard him to be. That said, the man is a dolt. Like me. Like anyone. And that's because we're all such cowards. Cuz, you know, who WOULD want to believe in God? It's painful to begin with and requires ones death for certainty. When I believe in God, it hurts. Cuz all my other parts will do anything to keep me identified with them instead. Who doesn't blush when the concept God is omniscient is presented? Who hasn't earned a lump of coal? Curtis is afraid of God just like all of us. We all know how we could have saved the world, been saints, cured every problem, and then we decided TM was ersatz instead, and so God had to be denied or else we'd be sweating the after-life cuz we could be asked at the Pearly Gates just why we didn't do that good shit we cudda done and instead spent thousands and thousands of hours doing anything BUT. Being on FFL for instance. And Curtis cannot be squished into doing whatever it would take to get to where my view of God would be thereby finally validated to him due to his own nervous system having GROWN to such a stature that clarity finally was achieved. Nor can he squish me into his POV. (And he will for sure make a pun of squish. Probably a dirty pun.) And now to get to an actuality that Curtis has yet to respond to even though I've posted about it twice now. That is: the orderliness of water when light shines on it and what that means if one considers the orderliness of the WATER inside ONE'S OWN BRAINS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=XVBEwn6iWOo Curtis, my bud, come on, this video is made for you. You will eat this shit up. And then we can see if I can toggle ya about divinity being real instead of light being actual. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: On the other hand, after a hard day of battle the combatants of the Mahabharata would have dinner together around the campfires like actors backstage shedding their assumed characters. I kinda like that concept. But, I'm not fit for it, CUZ I EVEN CARRY GRUDGES AGAINST PEOPLE WHO
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and not seen God, you might be a yogi!
Hey there Edg, I was targeting you earlier, only because your mind spins so quickly. Not that your perception is off, though with the mind going so quickly, it can invent some fantastic shit, and also has a tendency to roll right over solutions without seeing them. You seem like a really good person. That was all - the profanity was in there simply 'cause I enjoy cursing for emphasis! Always your ally. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: On the other hand, after a hard day of battle the combatants of the Mahabharata would have dinner together around the campfires like actors backstage shedding their assumed characters. I kinda like that concept. But, I'm not fit for it, CUZ I EVEN CARRY GRUDGES AGAINST PEOPLE WHO BOTHERED ME IN MY NIGHTLY DREAMS. I'm trying not to contend these days, but there it is -- Doc, somehow got me to reply. If'n I was agunna contend it'd be against Curtis, but that guy just slips my grip every time I try to get him in a hammerlock about God. So, Ravi, there's the righteous battle you should be egging me on to enjoin. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I'm glad you enjoyed it Edg because I was laughing hard after sending that response. I had to google krishna's words to arjuna in kurukshetra to get those lines. I felt your response was not as strong as I would like it to be but looking back it's a very good comeback. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Hee hee, Ravi -- but you see, it's a heaping of coals upon the head to show kindness to those who know not how to be kind. If Doc complains about any burning sensations, it's a tell. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Edguna - such words are not worthy of a hero like you. Your duty is to fight. He has insulted you - take him down !!! On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Um, Doc, um, er, thanks for the response, but I'm not certain of the tone/vibe. If you are targeting me individually instead of the generic use of the word you then, I gotta ask if you'll be kind enough, while I'm waving this here bigass white flag, to flesh out the summation, cuz, I never know when some truth about myself has been denied by me until someone really intelligent backs me in a corner -- that's how I roll. You think you can do this service for me? It would grand of you. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Edg, There is an alternative. Quiet your mind the fuck down, so that you are not filtering everything through it. Deal responsibly with what is in your mind, not by denying it, judging it, or distracting away from it. Stop being life's bitch. Once you do that, examine each component, including this retarded notion that you are forever locked in mental slavery. A fair amount of work and dedication to reach true peace of mind, and non-attachment, though not nearly as much work as you expend, dealing with who YOU thinks you is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Yogis are fond of saying Not this, not this, not this. (In Sanskrit it's Neti, neti, neti. The portent is that no sensual input can be God -- no image, no sound, no whatever -- any representation of God to you from the senses must be just that -- symbols, not the real thingie. So the yogi refuses to mistake the map for the territory. Nothing but real actual God-God will do. So, if you are not feeling holy and divine -- YOU'RE RIGHT! Things, attributes, qualities and any combination thereof needs must be imperfect. The human mind's contents, for instance. And to expect perfection in the mundane is folly. Now, to reject everything as illusory is just too much work, so the yogi cheats. Turns out that if you merely reject the ego's claim of sentience, then you're home free, because it is the ego that names and frames all of creation. Get that? Yes, I just said, The little voice in your head is not you; it's a liar. Sorry, that needy little twit has to go. And when every thing's ephemerality has been established, guess what, GOD REMAINS REAL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gifts vs. Invoices
God, you are one clueless motherf. you sound like some prepubescent 10 year old here, all gooey and dreamy. You really WANT to grow up - I hear that in your phrases, like this one, What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much... You Just Don't Get It, though. You continue to think you describe others and put them down, as in the example above, BUT ALL YOU DESCRIBE IS YOURSELF. You may not *expect* applause or praise, but you sure as fuck are ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IT FOR YOURSELF, and if you deny that to yourself, as you most certainly will, it just makes you more the fool. You have this image of yourself as this hip ex-pat, but what I see is someone who 1. doesn't do a hell of a lot. 2. possibly has an alcohol problem. 3. has a real issue forming lasting friendships, and intimate relationships, and 4. seems pretty fucking unhappy most of the time. As for Curtis, its all happy happy outside and really pretty fucking angry within. You two are just weird. Can't come up with another way to put it. Oh and by the way, say anything you like in return, or nothing at all. I, unlike you, truly do not give a shit, and LOL you know it! Get real. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: ... Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) take them and run with them and have fun with them. Your writings (along with several others' writing on this forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then demand payment, in the form of attention. The more I think about this gift vs. invoices metaphor, the more multipurpose it becomes. Doesn't it, for example, describe the approach that Maharishi and the TM movement took and continue to take about what they presented to the world. While *calling* them gifts, and pretending benevolence, there was always a price tag attached. It started low -- only $35 US -- but soon escalated into the thousands of dollars, much more if you wanted the good stuff. Even now, when almost literally no one is signing up to learn *anything* the TMO has to offer unless 1) somebody else (like the DLF) pays for it for them, or 2) they're such TBs that they continue pressing the Ca-ching buttons on their bank accounts the way that rats keep pressing the food lever when you add sugar to it. Buck's *entire spiel* is about invoicing. He doesn't demand payment for his claims that butt-bouncers are saving the world...he just demands that the world give them the *credit* for saving it. Gifts are different. You still see that in some meditation traditions. They still teach for free, and once you have learned their basic meditation, they don't keep wheedling you to join a cult or buy more add-on accessories. Coming back to Curtis (my inspiration for this gifts vs. invoicing metaphor), it's easy to see where his generous 'tude came from -- busking. When you share your talents on the streets, you pretty much *have* to do it as gifts. Some people are going to respond and put some money in your guitar case, others aren't. You can't really let whether they do or not drive your performance, or it becomes mercenary and uninteresting. So instead you put your energy into making it the best performance you can give, regardless of whether the crowds appreciate it or not. What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much. I'm rapping about this because I honestly think that this invoicing metaphor characterizes much of what is said here on this forum. Judy and Robin and Ann and Emily and Ravi and Jimbo and Emily post something and essentially *demand* a reply. And if one is not forthcoming, and in the form that they wanted, they lash out and start calling people names. It seems to me that they could learn a little something from busking -- or even from writing for a living. Those who do this learn very quickly that NO ONE 'OWES' THEM A DAMN THING. You get a favorable response -- or any response at all -- by putting enough merit into what you say to deserve a response. For most people in the world, being presented with a tirade and then being told that they not only have to read it, they have to PAY for it in the form of a response is a bit of a turn-off.
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
Triggered is a really interesting word, because it would mean literally shooting someone in self-defense. In self defense. In defense of the self, the core beliefs, that, wrapped about the ego, form the identity. So to be triggered is to react instinctively to what one perceives as a threat to false identity - the self. So if I were someone who was triggered, I'd spend time figuring out why. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty about him. Did I miss something important? Anyway, I was glad she posted his info. Yeah, I got triggered by what Rancid Bu er Raunchy said about John. So what?! Oh right, like you all NEVER get triggered?! Or if you do, it's only about Really Important Stuff. Whatever! Emily I was not suggesting that anyone needed HELP from John Newton. I think I used the phrase EXTRA BENEFITS. And I think Raunchy knows exactly what I mean by people in her life in this context. BTW, yes we are moving onto other topics now. Slowly but surely. Kind of like Oozing Butter. Anyway, I aim to avoid using wts. Though even in recent posts there is evidence of more wts thinking. Sigh...a Butter Bouncer's work is never done (-:
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Triggered is a really interesting word, because it would mean literally shooting someone in self-defense. In self defense. In defense of the self, the core beliefs, that, wrapped about the ego, form the identity. So to be triggered is to react instinctively to what one perceives as a threat to false identity - the self. So if I were someone who was triggered, I'd spend time figuring out why. C'est précisément ce que je veux dire! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty about him. Did I miss something important? Anyway, I was glad she posted his info. Yeah, I got triggered by what Rancid Bu er Raunchy said about John. So what?! Oh right, like you all NEVER get triggered?! Or if you do, it's only about Really Important Stuff. Whatever! Emily I was not suggesting that anyone needed HELP from John Newton. I think I used the phrase EXTRA BENEFITS. And I think Raunchy knows exactly what I mean by people in her life in this context. BTW, yes we are moving onto other topics now. Slowly but surely. Kind of like Oozing Butter. Anyway, I aim to avoid using wts. Though even in recent posts there is evidence of more wts thinking. Sigh...a Butter Bouncer's work is never done (-:
[FairfieldLife] Alright! Course food accompainment!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily about extremely polarized thinking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Emily: Dear Robin, I am just getting back.  I haven't read the other responses.  I don't like to base what I write on what other people write.  I like to be spontaneous. Now, regarding your last sentence.  Don't you think that's just a bit over the top? Robin: No I don't. You quite obviously either don't understand what I meant, or you are unable to recognize how sweetly and poignantly reasonable you were being (in that last paragraph especially). Most of us here have been metaphysically and physiologically cultured in TM, Maharishi, and his Teaching. You have not. I believe this means you can experience some quality of life in a way that we might never again experience it--this virginal status (for me at least) is significant. And it means something of life in ignorance of TM and Maharishi gets expressed and comes through. All of us TMers are unconsciously influenced by our Maharishi past. Even if we have, as I have, repudiated him and his Teaching--and no longer practice TM. What this means is that when you try to appeal to your friend here, apart from your humility and passion, you are giving her something fresh and original. I feel this. Your seriousness, your sincerity seems about as real as it could be. And then there is an intelligence that pervades everything, including your very personality. Perhaps some of us can appreciate your more (because of your non-TM influenced consciousness) than other people in your life who are Maharishi-ignorant. Just sensing a form of objectivity in you, Emily, that I don't feel I am quite capable of exercising--because of my extreme blow-out with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. We, as it were, saw Christ walk on the water. Those of us who see how true you have been to Share Long are in the minority. But we do *perceive* this truth about you, Emily. Ann Woelfle Bater is not a liar. Emily:  I am putting myself in Share's shoes right now, just so you know.  I have the ability to move between realities, or rather, feel what it is like in someone else's shoes.  Robin: Yes, I know this. As you can see, Emily, I stand behind my comments about your post. From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily about extremely polarized thinking  This letter gave me something, Emily. It is truth going everywhere it can go. It almost seems what should take the place of prayer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip BTW, I said it was a NEW low for Emily and Raunchy.Ãâ Not so new for Ravi, right? Dear Share, I missed this earlier. I stopped in for lunch, but let us agree to start right here, with this statement. Us, as in you and me. I have let our entire history go; I apologize for hurting your feelings and I will think fondly of you when I meditate next. Now, deep breathahh. O.K. It's a lovely day here, so I must get back to the ocean, because that is where God resides and I'm only here for another day. I will be back later and hope to hear from you. Please, I really want to work this out with you. I really do. What specifically is a NEW low for me? Specifically. Please quote anything I've written in support of this allegation and explain what it is and why you think it is. I will cop to it all and explain the context and reason why I wrote it, if true. But, I *really* need you to explain what it is. I'm seriously confused and don't understand all of what I am interpreting as purely negative attack rhetoric coming out of you. I could be wrong; I have been wrong before. Let us just figure this one thing out in present time. Sincerely, Emily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: No Share, that's *not* what I say or have said. àI have said that you avoid - I have nothing but multiple concrete examples of this I could show you, if I cared enough to spend the time to do so, and I don't. àGood barb on me running to the coast and walking my dog. àWay to avoid life - it's one of my specialties, didn't you know? àI àhave many more tricks up my sleeve I could tell you that you might benefit from more than whoever the next healer is on the circuit through Fairfield catering to those addicted to the health and wellness industry. àYou bet your sweet little backjack, that's what I'm doing, and I'll be doing that the rest of the day and loving every balmy second of it. àYou *are* ranting. àYeah! àBe angry Share, be very, very angry. àHow dare these people say these horrific things about Mr. Newton? And, it isn't just those you have cultized, it was
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alright! Course food accompainment! Thanks David Lynch!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: http://www.domperignon.com/image/laevent-firstlook/
[FairfieldLife] A little memory
I don't know why I was thinking of this today, but I remember there was a chiropractor in Fairfield that was having his patients wear some kind of inserts in their shoes to correct their body alignment and also had them putting some kind of plastic or rubber discs or something in their mouths and have the things in their mouths all day long to correct something, I guess maybe the alignment of the jawbones - it was very odd at one point to go into Annapurna and see how many people were slurring their words when attempting to speak cuz they had those mouth inserts - anyone remember that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: how could I not send this?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: which I just received from one of my best friends Happy Chanukah to you and yours! This is not a real zebra, but you probably know that. (But thanks for the sentiment). The stripe configuration is almost always closer to this: [259] [275] Another note of interest: How did the zebra get its stripes? One theory holds that stripes help confuse predators. But stripes might be primarily to protect zebras from ferocious insects. That's according to a study in the Journal of Experimental Biology. [Ádám Egri et al., Polarotactic tabanids find striped patterns with brightness and/or polarization modulation least attractive: an advantage of zebra stripes http://jeb.biologists.org/content/215/5/736.abstract ] Horseflies are abundant in Africa. They deliver painful bites that spread disease and distractanimals http://www.scientificamerican.com/topic.cfm?id=animals from grazing. The flies use polarized light hitting water http://www.scientificamerican.com/topic.cfm?id=water as a guide to places to mate and lay eggs. And they read such light hitting dark mammal hides as a sign of a blood meal. Zebra embryos start out dark and develop their white stripes before birth. Could the stripes confuse flies? The researchers went to a farm infested with horseflies, where they set up models of black and white stripes of varying angles and widths, thus changing the direction of the reflected polarized light. They tracked how the patterns affected the flies' interest. They then tested models of horses colored black, brown, white or zebra-striped. And again tracked the effect on flies. Turns out that the black and white stripes on a zebra are optimal for avoiding a horsefly's attention. Meaning that zebras may have evolved stripes to ward off disease-carrying insects, and to dine in peace.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gifts vs. Invoices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: God, you are one clueless motherf. you sound like some prepubescent 10 year old here, all gooey and dreamy. You really WANT to grow up - I hear that in your phrases, like this one, What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much... You Just Don't Get It, though. You continue to think you describe others and put them down, as in the example above, BUT ALL YOU DESCRIBE IS YOURSELF. You may not *expect* applause or praise, but you sure as fuck are ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IT FOR YOURSELF, and if you deny that to yourself, as you most certainly will, it just makes you more the fool. You have this image of yourself as this hip ex-pat, but what I see is someone who 1. doesn't do a hell of a lot. 2. possibly has an alcohol problem. 3. has a real issue forming lasting friendships, and intimate relationships, and 4. seems pretty fucking unhappy most of the time. As for Curtis, its all happy happy outside and really pretty fucking angry within. You two are just weird. Can't come up with another way to put it. Oh and by the way, say anything you like in return, or nothing at all. I, unlike you, truly do not give a shit, and LOL you know it! Get real. Oh doctor, I so love it when you're angry. But I'd appreciate it if you'd put that scalpel away before I come in for my flu shot. But damn, you look good in that white coat with your stethoscope around your neck letting someone have it like that. And here I thought you were just a GP. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: ... Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) take them and run with them and have fun with them. Your writings (along with several others' writing on this forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then demand payment, in the form of attention. The more I think about this gift vs. invoices metaphor, the more multipurpose it becomes. Doesn't it, for example, describe the approach that Maharishi and the TM movement took and continue to take about what they presented to the world. While *calling* them gifts, and pretending benevolence, there was always a price tag attached. It started low -- only $35 US -- but soon escalated into the thousands of dollars, much more if you wanted the good stuff. Even now, when almost literally no one is signing up to learn *anything* the TMO has to offer unless 1) somebody else (like the DLF) pays for it for them, or 2) they're such TBs that they continue pressing the Ca-ching buttons on their bank accounts the way that rats keep pressing the food lever when you add sugar to it. Buck's *entire spiel* is about invoicing. He doesn't demand payment for his claims that butt-bouncers are saving the world...he just demands that the world give them the *credit* for saving it. Gifts are different. You still see that in some meditation traditions. They still teach for free, and once you have learned their basic meditation, they don't keep wheedling you to join a cult or buy more add-on accessories. Coming back to Curtis (my inspiration for this gifts vs. invoicing metaphor), it's easy to see where his generous 'tude came from -- busking. When you share your talents on the streets, you pretty much *have* to do it as gifts. Some people are going to respond and put some money in your guitar case, others aren't. You can't really let whether they do or not drive your performance, or it becomes mercenary and uninteresting. So instead you put your energy into making it the best performance you can give, regardless of whether the crowds appreciate it or not. What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much. I'm rapping about this because I honestly think that this invoicing metaphor characterizes much of what is said here on this forum. Judy and Robin and Ann and Emily and Ravi and Jimbo and Emily post something and essentially *demand* a reply. And if one is not forthcoming, and in the form that they wanted, they lash out and start calling people names. It seems to me that they could learn a little something from busking -- or even from writing for a living. Those who do this learn very quickly that NO ONE 'OWES' THEM A DAMN THING. You get a favorable response -- or any response at all -- by putting enough merit into what you say to deserve a response. For most people in the world, being presented with a tirade and then being told that they not
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gifts vs. Invoices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: God, you are one clueless motherf. you sound like some prepubescent 10 year old here, all gooey and dreamy. You really WANT to grow up - I hear that in your phrases, like this one, What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much... You Just Don't Get It, though. You continue to think you describe others and put them down, as in the example above, BUT ALL YOU DESCRIBE IS YOURSELF. You may not *expect* applause or praise, but you sure as fuck are ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IT FOR YOURSELF, and if you deny that to yourself, as you most certainly will, it just makes you more the fool. You have this image of yourself as this hip ex-pat, but what I see is someone who 1. doesn't do a hell of a lot. 2. possibly has an alcohol problem. 3. has a real issue forming lasting friendships, and intimate relationships, and 4. seems pretty fucking unhappy most of the time. As for Curtis, its all happy happy outside and really pretty fucking angry within. You two are just weird. Can't come up with another way to put it. Oh and by the way, say anything you like in return, or nothing at all. I, unlike you, truly do not give a shit, and LOL you know it! Get real. Oh doctor, I so love it when you're angry. But I'd appreciate it if you'd put that scalpel away before I come in for my flu shot. But damn, you look good in that white coat with your stethoscope around your neck letting someone have it like that. And here I thought you were just a GP. Indeed, Jimbo sounds *exactly* like Ann's cuppa tea, spiritually speaking. She seems to have a preference for people who claim to be enlightened and then heap abuse on the people who come to them for help, project- ing their own internal anger onto them. With any luck, doctordumbass will put her up on a stage in front of other people and use his scatological scalpel to rip her a new one, and for her it'll be just like being back in the Robin days. :-) :-) :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: ... Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) take them and run with them and have fun with them. Your writings (along with several others' writing on this forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then demand payment, in the form of attention. The more I think about this gift vs. invoices metaphor, the more multipurpose it becomes. Doesn't it, for example, describe the approach that Maharishi and the TM movement took and continue to take about what they presented to the world. While *calling* them gifts, and pretending benevolence, there was always a price tag attached. It started low -- only $35 US -- but soon escalated into the thousands of dollars, much more if you wanted the good stuff. Even now, when almost literally no one is signing up to learn *anything* the TMO has to offer unless 1) somebody else (like the DLF) pays for it for them, or 2) they're such TBs that they continue pressing the Ca-ching buttons on their bank accounts the way that rats keep pressing the food lever when you add sugar to it. Buck's *entire spiel* is about invoicing. He doesn't demand payment for his claims that butt-bouncers are saving the world...he just demands that the world give them the *credit* for saving it. Gifts are different. You still see that in some meditation traditions. They still teach for free, and once you have learned their basic meditation, they don't keep wheedling you to join a cult or buy more add-on accessories. Coming back to Curtis (my inspiration for this gifts vs. invoicing metaphor), it's easy to see where his generous 'tude came from -- busking. When you share your talents on the streets, you pretty much *have* to do it as gifts. Some people are going to respond and put some money in your guitar case, others aren't. You can't really let whether they do or not drive your performance, or it becomes mercenary and uninteresting. So instead you put your energy into making it the best performance you can give, regardless of whether the crowds appreciate it or not. What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much. I'm rapping about this because I honestly think that this invoicing metaphor characterizes much of what is said here on this forum. Judy and Robin and Ann and
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and not seen God, you might be a yogi!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Hey there Edg, I was targeting you earlier, only because your mind spins so quickly. Not that your perception is off, though with the mind going so quickly, it can invent some fantastic shit, and also has a tendency to roll right over solutions without seeing them. You seem like a really good person. That was all - the profanity was in there simply 'cause I enjoy cursing for emphasis! Always your ally. Edg is a warm puppy who... always runs, never walks to greet you; never passes an opportunity for a joy ride; enjoys the ecstasy of fresh air and wind on his face; avoids biting because growling is more effective; is loyal to those who love him; never pretends to be something he is not; digs deep until he finds what is buried; happy dances and wags his entire body; thrives on attention and lets people touch him; loves applause. knows that Barry loves applause too but won't admit it. Merry Christmas, Edg and you too, Doc. http://blog.pawshpal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/dog-professor.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: On the other hand, after a hard day of battle the combatants of the Mahabharata would have dinner together around the campfires like actors backstage shedding their assumed characters. I kinda like that concept. But, I'm not fit for it, CUZ I EVEN CARRY GRUDGES AGAINST PEOPLE WHO BOTHERED ME IN MY NIGHTLY DREAMS. I'm trying not to contend these days, but there it is -- Doc, somehow got me to reply. If'n I was agunna contend it'd be against Curtis, but that guy just slips my grip every time I try to get him in a hammerlock about God. So, Ravi, there's the righteous battle you should be egging me on to enjoin. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I'm glad you enjoyed it Edg because I was laughing hard after sending that response. I had to google krishna's words to arjuna in kurukshetra to get those lines. I felt your response was not as strong as I would like it to be but looking back it's a very good comeback. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Hee hee, Ravi -- but you see, it's a heaping of coals upon the head to show kindness to those who know not how to be kind. If Doc complains about any burning sensations, it's a tell. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Edguna - such words are not worthy of a hero like you. Your duty is to fight. He has insulted you - take him down !!! On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Um, Doc, um, er, thanks for the response, but I'm not certain of the tone/vibe. If you are targeting me individually instead of the generic use of the word you then, I gotta ask if you'll be kind enough, while I'm waving this here bigass white flag, to flesh out the summation, cuz, I never know when some truth about myself has been denied by me until someone really intelligent backs me in a corner -- that's how I roll. You think you can do this service for me? It would grand of you. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Edg, There is an alternative. Quiet your mind the fuck down, so that you are not filtering everything through it. Deal responsibly with what is in your mind, not by denying it, judging it, or distracting away from it. Stop being life's bitch. Once you do that, examine each component, including this retarded notion that you are forever locked in mental slavery. A fair amount of work and dedication to reach true peace of mind, and non-attachment, though not nearly as much work as you expend, dealing with who YOU thinks you is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Yogis are fond of saying Not this, not this, not this. (In Sanskrit it's Neti, neti, neti. The portent is that no sensual input can be God -- no image, no sound, no whatever -- any representation of God to you from the senses must be just that -- symbols, not the real thingie. So the yogi refuses to mistake the map for the territory. Nothing but real actual God-God will do. So, if you are not feeling holy and divine -- YOU'RE RIGHT! Things, attributes, qualities and any combination thereof needs must be imperfect. The human mind's
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory
Oh, I remember that. I think the chiro may have been John Andre. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@... wrote: I don't know why I was thinking of this today, but I remember there was a chiropractor in Fairfield that was having his patients wear some kind of inserts in their shoes to correct their body alignment and also had them putting some kind of plastic or rubber discs or something in their mouths and have the things in their mouths all day long to correct something, I guess maybe the alignment of the jawbones - it was very odd at one point to go into Annapurna and see how many people were slurring their words when attempting to speak cuz they had those mouth inserts - anyone remember that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gifts vs. Invoices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: God, you are one clueless motherf. you sound like some prepubescent 10 year old here, all gooey and dreamy. You really WANT to grow up - I hear that in your phrases, like this one, What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much... You Just Don't Get It, though. You continue to think you describe others and put them down, as in the example above, BUT ALL YOU DESCRIBE IS YOURSELF. You may not *expect* applause or praise, but you sure as fuck are ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IT FOR YOURSELF, and if you deny that to yourself, as you most certainly will, it just makes you more the fool. You have this image of yourself as this hip ex-pat, but what I see is someone who 1. doesn't do a hell of a lot. 2. possibly has an alcohol problem. 3. has a real issue forming lasting friendships, and intimate relationships, and 4. seems pretty fucking unhappy most of the time. As for Curtis, its all happy happy outside and really pretty fucking angry within. You two are just weird. Can't come up with another way to put it. Oh and by the way, say anything you like in return, or nothing at all. I, unlike you, truly do not give a shit, and LOL you know it! Get real. Oh doctor, I so love it when you're angry. But I'd appreciate it if you'd put that scalpel away before I come in for my flu shot. But damn, you look good in that white coat with your stethoscope around your neck letting someone have it like that. And here I thought you were just a GP. Indeed, Jimbo sounds *exactly* like Ann's cuppa tea, spiritually speaking. She seems to have a preference for people who claim to be enlightened and then heap abuse on the people who come to them for help, project- ing their own internal anger onto them. With any luck, doctordumbass will put her up on a stage in front of other people and use his scatological scalpel to rip her a new one, and for her it'll be just like being back in the Robin days. :-) :-) :-) Oh Barry, what a way you have with the women but you can stop trying to butter me up, you know I'm already your biggest fan. I'm not sure there is anything that is called a scatological scalpel in a doctor's bag but I understand your meaning. I guess that Dr D kind of hit a nerve just now and it wasn't your funny bone. Now you better leave that little Fred Flintstone band aid on a little longer or you might get an infection from that incision the Dr just made. It 's going to smart for a little while longer but don't worry about it, you'll feel better after you post a few more of these gems like the last one. Keep it coming, I can take it, in fact, I like it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: ... Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) take them and run with them and have fun with them. Your writings (along with several others' writing on this forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then demand payment, in the form of attention. The more I think about this gift vs. invoices metaphor, the more multipurpose it becomes. Doesn't it, for example, describe the approach that Maharishi and the TM movement took and continue to take about what they presented to the world. While *calling* them gifts, and pretending benevolence, there was always a price tag attached. It started low -- only $35 US -- but soon escalated into the thousands of dollars, much more if you wanted the good stuff. Even now, when almost literally no one is signing up to learn *anything* the TMO has to offer unless 1) somebody else (like the DLF) pays for it for them, or 2) they're such TBs that they continue pressing the Ca-ching buttons on their bank accounts the way that rats keep pressing the food lever when you add sugar to it. Buck's *entire spiel* is about invoicing. He doesn't demand payment for his claims that butt-bouncers are saving the world...he just demands that the world give them the *credit* for saving it. Gifts are different. You still see that in some meditation traditions. They still teach for free, and once you have learned their basic meditation, they don't keep wheedling you to join a cult or buy more add-on accessories. Coming back to Curtis (my inspiration for this gifts vs. invoicing metaphor), it's easy to see where his
[FairfieldLife] Re: Qualities of the Unified Field
Self-Sufficiency Bliss Integrating Self-Referral Invincibility Perfect Balance Fully Awake Within Itself Total Potential of Natural Law Unmanifest Simplicity Harmonizing Infinite Correlation Infinite Silence Pure Knowledge Infinite Organizing Power Perfect Orderliness Infinite Creativity Purifying Immortality Nourishing Evolutionary Omnipresence Ominiscience Ominipotence Bountiful Discriminating Infinite Dynamism
[FairfieldLife] The Fulfillment of Religion
RELIGION is the Supreme science and art of connecting back to the source of all lifeinvestigating everywhere the omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent to discover the source of all life in the Light of God. The ideal of religion is living the Light of God in daily life, as available in the field of Total Knowledge, the field of the science and technology of Total Natural Law, the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fulfillment of Religion
Give us this Day our Daily Bread. The whole purpose of life is to gain enlightenment. Nothing else is significant compared to that completely natural, exalted state of consciousness. So always strive for that. Set your life around that goal. Don't get caught up in small things, and then it will be yours. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi RELIGION is the Supreme science and art of connecting back to the source of all lifeinvestigating everywhere the omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent to discover the source of all life in the Light of God. The ideal of religion is living the Light of God in daily life, as available in the field of Total Knowledge, the field of the science and technology of Total Natural Law, the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
Since time immemorial the creation of Heaven on Earth has been the highest aspiration of religions. All religions teach, however, that if Heaven is to be created on earth, it can happen only by having enough individuals whose consciousness is fully developed; that is, individuals whose consciousness is so expanded that it becomes one with the supreme intelligence of nature which permeates the whole universe and upholds all of creation. Heaven on Earth will be a living expression of pure knowledge and it's infinite organizing power. It will brilliantly display Nature's functioning bringing supreme fulfillment to life. With reference to CULTURE, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by cultural integrity in which every nation will blossom in the richness of its natural cultural dignity. Life will be lived spontaneously in accord with the natural law of the land. No culture will overshadow any other culture. The whole world family will be a beautiful mosaic of different cultures. With the full blossoming of culture on earth, civilization will be perfect. Heaven on Earth will be characterized by a perfect civilization. With Heaven on Earth, every nation will spontaneously radiate a nourishing influence to neighboring nations, and the whole family of nations will naturally enjoy harmony and real freedom. With Heaven on Earth, INVINCIBILITY will be the national characteristic of every nation, victory before war will be enjoyed by every nation. With reference to DEFENSE, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by victory before war -in the lack of the need to prepare for defense- because everything and everyone will be on the path of evolution, and as a result, coherence in every country will be so strong that invincibility will be a natural feature of national life. No negativity will arise and no enemy will be born for any nation. Heaven on Earth on the COLLECTIVE level will be characterized by indomitable positivity, harmony, and peace on all levels of collective life -family, community, nation, and the world. Heaven on Earth will also be characterized by perfection in all areas of the life of the individual and society. Heaven on Earth on the INDIVIDUAL level will be characterized by perfect health, long life in bliss, the ability to effortlessly fulfill one's desires, and live always in a beautiful, ever fresh, and nourishing environment. Considering all the innumerable values of life and living, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by all good everywhere and non-good nowhere beautiful sunshine of the Age of Enlightenment for everyone always and everywhere. With reference to LIVING, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by self-sufficiency in the ability to know anything, do anything, and accomplish anything. With reference to LIFE, Heaven on Earth is characterized by perfection, complete balance and integration. Fulfillment will prevail on all levels of life and living -spiritual, intellectual, physical, material, environment, and cosmic. Heaven on Earth may be defined as the supreme quality of life everywhere in this beautiful world when weakness and suffering is not found anywhere, and everyone in the world enjoys real freedom in bliss and fulfillment. This Heaven on Earth is now going to be real for everyone and every nation. Heaven on Earth has been the most laudable aspiration of the wise throughout the ages. Creation of Heaven on Earth is the most desirable project in the entire history of the human race. Everyone can now enjoy Heaven on Earth through perfect alliance with Natural Law, through the enlivenment of the total potential of Natural Law in one's own consciousness.
[FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians
It should be clear to everyone by now that the Republicans are not going to approve any higher tax rate for the wealthy. As such, they will let the Bush Tax Cut legislation expire. And, we'll be stuck with paying higher income taxes beginning on January 1, 2013. http://news.yahoo.com/voter-disdain-spreads-fiscal-cliff-looms-085417763--finance.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Voter Frustration Over Politicians
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: It should be clear to everyone by now that the Republicans are not going to approve any higher tax rate for the wealthy. As such, they will let the Bush Tax Cut legislation expire. And, we'll be stuck with paying higher income taxes beginning on January 1, 2013. http://news.yahoo.com/voter-disdain-spreads-fiscal-cliff-looms-085417763--finance.html Yeah. And then, let the Republicans look like fools if they argue *against lowering taxes* for the working class January 3rd. It's the best possible political outcome for Democrats. They get what they want by doing nothing while Republicans shoot themselves in the foot. http://youtu.be/gMuA8I2M5l0
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Since time immemorial the creation of Heaven on Earth has been the highest aspiration of religions. All religions teach, however, that if Heaven is to be created on earth, it can happen only by having enough individuals whose consciousness is fully developed; that is, individuals whose consciousness is so expanded that it becomes one with the supreme intelligence of nature which permeates the whole universe and upholds all of creation. Heaven on Earth will be a living expression of pure knowledge and it's infinite organizing power. It will brilliantly display Nature's functioning bringing supreme fulfillment to life. With reference to CULTURE, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by cultural integrity in which every nation will blossom in the richness of its natural cultural dignity. Life will be lived spontaneously in accord with the natural law of the land. No culture will overshadow any other culture. The whole world family will be a beautiful mosaic of different cultures. With the full blossoming of culture on earth, civilization will be perfect. Heaven on Earth will be characterized by a perfect civilization. With Heaven on Earth, every nation will spontaneously radiate a nourishing influence to neighboring nations, and the whole family of nations will naturally enjoy harmony and real freedom. With Heaven on Earth, INVINCIBILITY will be the national characteristic of every nation, victory before war will be enjoyed by every nation. With reference to DEFENSE, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by victory before war -in the lack of the need to prepare for defense- because everything and everyone will be on the path of evolution, and as a result, coherence in every country will be so strong that invincibility will be a natural feature of national life. No negativity will arise and no enemy will be born for any nation. Heaven on Earth on the COLLECTIVE level will be characterized by indomitable positivity, harmony, and peace on all levels of collective life -family, community, nation, and the world. Heaven on Earth will also be characterized by perfection in all areas of the life of the individual and society. Heaven on Earth on the INDIVIDUAL level will be characterized by perfect health, long life in bliss, the ability to effortlessly fulfill one's desires, and live always in a beautiful, ever fresh, and nourishing environment. Considering all the innumerable values of life and living, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by all good everywhere and non-good nowhere beautiful sunshine of the Age of Enlightenment for everyone always and everywhere. With reference to LIVING, Heaven on Earth will be characterized by self-sufficiency in the ability to know anything, do anything, and accomplish anything. With reference to LIFE, Heaven on Earth is characterized by perfection, complete balance and integration. Fulfillment will prevail on all levels of life and living -spiritual, intellectual, physical, material, environment, and cosmic. Heaven on Earth may be defined as the supreme quality of life everywhere in this beautiful world when weakness and suffering is not found anywhere, and everyone in the world enjoys real freedom in bliss and fulfillment. This Heaven on Earth is now going to be real for everyone and every nation. Heaven on Earth has been the most laudable aspiration of the wise throughout the ages. Creation of Heaven on Earth is the most desirable project in the entire history of the human race. Everyone can now enjoy Heaven on Earth through perfect alliance with Natural Law, through the enlivenment of the total potential of Natural Law in one's own consciousness. [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-409orSSKI4Q/TmLev1Tsx5I/Bq0/\ Ina6_FhgBog/s1152/Brahma%2520Shave.png] Buck in the Dome! https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/91bGNCC4oTRAN9-nnXQWU9MTjNZETYmyPJ\ y0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-409orSSKI4Q/TmLev1Tsx5I/Bq0/\ Ina6_FhgBog/s1152/Brahma%2520Shave.png] Buck in the Dome! https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/91bGNCC4oTRAN9-nnXQWU9MTjNZETYmyPJ\ y0liipFm0?feat=directlink I remember that! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/288309
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you've ever looked into a mirror and not seen God, you might be a yogi!
Aw gee thanks. Scratch behind my left ear while you're at it.oo, right there, yeah, more, more, ooo,ooo,you know what gets a dog's hind leg phantom scratching in the air. Nice one there, R-doggie Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Hey there Edg, I was targeting you earlier, only because your mind spins so quickly. Not that your perception is off, though with the mind going so quickly, it can invent some fantastic shit, and also has a tendency to roll right over solutions without seeing them. You seem like a really good person. That was all - the profanity was in there simply 'cause I enjoy cursing for emphasis! Always your ally. Edg is a warm puppy who... always runs, never walks to greet you; never passes an opportunity for a joy ride; enjoys the ecstasy of fresh air and wind on his face; avoids biting because growling is more effective; is loyal to those who love him; never pretends to be something he is not; digs deep until he finds what is buried; happy dances and wags his entire body; thrives on attention and lets people touch him; loves applause. knows that Barry loves applause too but won't admit it. Merry Christmas, Edg and you too, Doc. http://blog.pawshpal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/dog-professor.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: On the other hand, after a hard day of battle the combatants of the Mahabharata would have dinner together around the campfires like actors backstage shedding their assumed characters. I kinda like that concept. But, I'm not fit for it, CUZ I EVEN CARRY GRUDGES AGAINST PEOPLE WHO BOTHERED ME IN MY NIGHTLY DREAMS. I'm trying not to contend these days, but there it is -- Doc, somehow got me to reply. If'n I was agunna contend it'd be against Curtis, but that guy just slips my grip every time I try to get him in a hammerlock about God. So, Ravi, there's the righteous battle you should be egging me on to enjoin. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I'm glad you enjoyed it Edg because I was laughing hard after sending that response. I had to google krishna's words to arjuna in kurukshetra to get those lines. I felt your response was not as strong as I would like it to be but looking back it's a very good comeback. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Hee hee, Ravi -- but you see, it's a heaping of coals upon the head to show kindness to those who know not how to be kind. If Doc complains about any burning sensations, it's a tell. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Edguna - such words are not worthy of a hero like you. Your duty is to fight. He has insulted you - take him down !!! On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Um, Doc, um, er, thanks for the response, but I'm not certain of the tone/vibe. If you are targeting me individually instead of the generic use of the word you then, I gotta ask if you'll be kind enough, while I'm waving this here bigass white flag, to flesh out the summation, cuz, I never know when some truth about myself has been denied by me until someone really intelligent backs me in a corner -- that's how I roll. You think you can do this service for me? It would grand of you. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Edg, There is an alternative. Quiet your mind the fuck down, so that you are not filtering everything through it. Deal responsibly with what is in your mind, not by denying it, judging it, or distracting away from it. Stop being life's bitch. Once you do that, examine each component, including this retarded notion that you are forever locked in mental slavery. A fair amount of work and dedication to reach true peace of mind, and non-attachment, though not nearly as much work as you expend, dealing with who YOU thinks you is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Yogis are fond of saying Not this, not this, not this. (In Sanskrit it's Neti, neti, neti. The portent is that no sensual input can be God -- no image, no
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-409orSSKI4Q/TmLev1Tsx5I/Bq0/Ina6_FhgBog/s1152/Brahma%2520Shave.png] Buck in the Dome! https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/91bGNCC4oTRAN9-nnXQWU9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink I remember that! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/288309 Those are both really good riffs, BTW, both Rory's originals and Emptybill's revision. I must have spaced on them first time around. I think someone should -- say, as an art project for an MUM student -- make these up into actual signs and put them on the roads leading into Fairfield. Then get a videocam with a long lens and take footage through the windshields of passersby and how they react to them. I think it would be interesting to see who smiles and who doesn't.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fulfillment of Religion
It is interesting that you post this - this was the very sort of thing that Maharishi would say that inspired me and my friends, kept us going on the path to enlightenment - this was the thing that gave us more impetus to be regular, and especially to go one rounding courses. Now I see that it was one way Maharishi marshaled the troops to continue to stay connected to him and to feed his organization money. Now that I believe as Eckhart Tolle teaches that most meditations are another way of doing (as opposed to just being) and that one does not need to use a mantra to experience Being, it shows the basic advertising tenant of TM is untrue or perhaps superfluous - that one needs a mantra, specifically the TM mantra to transcend, or experience Being - my how times change. Knowledge may not be different in different states of awareness, but it certainly is perceived differently. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fulfillment of Religion Give us this Day our Daily Bread. The whole purpose of life is to gain enlightenment. Nothing else is significant compared to that completely natural, exalted state of consciousness. So always strive for that. Set your life around that goal. Don't get caught up in small things, and then it will be yours. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi RELIGION is the Supreme science and art of connecting back to the source of all life—investigating everywhere the omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent to discover the source of all life in the Light of God. The ideal of religion is living the Light of God in daily life, as available in the field of Total Knowledge, the field of the science and technology of Total Natural Law, the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gifts vs. Invoices
Hi Ann, I am all for people living in their dreams, as most do. But when the phoney-baloney starts, with some trying to convince others of their fantasies, it pisses me off. Any other discipline, these fuck-ups would be called out immediately, aka, no, dude, you face the *other way* in the saddle... But given the abysmal general knowledge we have of ourselves, our motivations, combined with our lack of ability to sense authenticity, nearly *anyone* can fake proficiency in the spiritual arena. So, then you get Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum involved, confusing people further with their utter phony, non-life supporting elephant shit, and I feel compelled to at least point out what is going on. My attitude with these two, is Dream On, but don't come in here with an imagined hard on, expecting everyone to suck it. And yes, the scalpel only exposes, and removes, dead or diseased tissue, so you have nothing to worry about! Clean bill of health for you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: God, you are one clueless motherf. you sound like some prepubescent 10 year old here, all gooey and dreamy. You really WANT to grow up - I hear that in your phrases, like this one, What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much... You Just Don't Get It, though. You continue to think you describe others and put them down, as in the example above, BUT ALL YOU DESCRIBE IS YOURSELF. You may not *expect* applause or praise, but you sure as fuck are ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IT FOR YOURSELF, and if you deny that to yourself, as you most certainly will, it just makes you more the fool. You have this image of yourself as this hip ex-pat, but what I see is someone who 1. doesn't do a hell of a lot. 2. possibly has an alcohol problem. 3. has a real issue forming lasting friendships, and intimate relationships, and 4. seems pretty fucking unhappy most of the time. As for Curtis, its all happy happy outside and really pretty fucking angry within. You two are just weird. Can't come up with another way to put it. Oh and by the way, say anything you like in return, or nothing at all. I, unlike you, truly do not give a shit, and LOL you know it! Get real. Oh doctor, I so love it when you're angry. But I'd appreciate it if you'd put that scalpel away before I come in for my flu shot. But damn, you look good in that white coat with your stethoscope around your neck letting someone have it like that. And here I thought you were just a GP. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: ... Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) take them and run with them and have fun with them. Your writings (along with several others' writing on this forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then demand payment, in the form of attention. The more I think about this gift vs. invoices metaphor, the more multipurpose it becomes. Doesn't it, for example, describe the approach that Maharishi and the TM movement took and continue to take about what they presented to the world. While *calling* them gifts, and pretending benevolence, there was always a price tag attached. It started low -- only $35 US -- but soon escalated into the thousands of dollars, much more if you wanted the good stuff. Even now, when almost literally no one is signing up to learn *anything* the TMO has to offer unless 1) somebody else (like the DLF) pays for it for them, or 2) they're such TBs that they continue pressing the Ca-ching buttons on their bank accounts the way that rats keep pressing the food lever when you add sugar to it. Buck's *entire spiel* is about invoicing. He doesn't demand payment for his claims that butt-bouncers are saving the world...he just demands that the world give them the *credit* for saving it. Gifts are different. You still see that in some meditation traditions. They still teach for free, and once you have learned their basic meditation, they don't keep wheedling you to join a cult or buy more add-on accessories. Coming back to Curtis (my inspiration for this gifts vs. invoicing metaphor), it's easy to see where his generous 'tude came from -- busking. When you share your talents on the streets, you pretty much *have* to do it as gifts. Some people are going to respond and put some money in your guitar case, others aren't. You can't really let whether they do or not drive your performance, or it becomes mercenary and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians
On 12/11/2012 08:13 AM, John wrote: It should be clear to everyone by now that the Republicans are not going to approve any higher tax rate for the wealthy. As such, they will let the Bush Tax Cut legislation expire. And, we'll be stuck with paying higher income taxes beginning on January 1, 2013. http://news.yahoo.com/voter-disdain-spreads-fiscal-cliff-looms-085417763--finance.html Or we could have a tax strike. People could go to their HR departments and raise the exceptions on their tax withholding and bankrupt the government. We can no longer afford a Plutocracy or there WILL be a violent revolution that will make Greece look like a Sunday picnic.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory
You know you may be right, I was thinking it was John Douillard, but maybe it was Andre. From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory Oh, I remember that. I think the chiro may have been John Andre. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@... wrote: I don't know why I was thinking of this today, but I remember there was a chiropractor in Fairfield that was having his patients wear some kind of inserts in their shoes to correct their body alignment and also had them putting some kind of plastic or rubber discs or something in their mouths and have the things in their mouths all day long to correct something, I guess maybe the alignment of the jawbones - it was very odd at one point to go into Annapurna and see how many people were slurring their words when attempting to speak cuz they had those mouth inserts - anyone remember that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: You know you may be right, I was thinking it was John Douillard, but maybe it was Andre. Just a (to me) funny aside: Do you think anyone ever checked to see whether their shoe inserts were any different than anyone else's? They might have been...or not. Maybe they were determined by the patient's age, like TM mantras. :-) :-) :-) From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory Oh, I remember that. I think the chiro may have been John Andre. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@ wrote: I don't know why I was thinking of this today, but I remember there was a chiropractor in Fairfield that was having his patients wear some kind of inserts in their shoes to correct their body alignment and also had them putting some kind of plastic or rubber discs or something in their mouths and have the things in their mouths all day long to correct something, I guess maybe the alignment of the jawbones - it was very odd at one point to go into Annapurna and see how many people were slurring their words when attempting to speak cuz they had those mouth inserts - anyone remember that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fulfillment of Religion
Hey MJ, have you been to any of those residence courses/WPAs that Diana and Jeff offer on the Outer Banks of NC a couple of times a year, usually before and after the tourist season? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: It is interesting that you post this - this was the very sort of thing that Maharishi would say that inspired me and my friends, kept us going on the path to enlightenment - this was the thing that gave us more impetus to be regular, and especially to go one rounding courses. Now I see that it was one way Maharishi marshaled the troops to continue to stay connected to him and to feed his organization money. Now that I believe as Eckhart Tolle teaches that most meditations are another way of doing (as opposed to just being) and that one does not need to use a mantra to experience Being, it shows the basic advertising tenant of TM is untrue or perhaps superfluous - that one needs a mantra, specifically the TM mantra to transcend, or experience Being - my how times change. Knowledge may not be different in different states of awareness, but it certainly is perceived differently. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fulfillment of Religion  Give us this Day our Daily Bread. The whole purpose of life is to gain enlightenment. Nothing else is significant compared to that completely natural, exalted state of consciousness. So always strive for that. Set your life around that goal. Don't get caught up in small things, and then it will be yours. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi RELIGION is the Supreme science and art of connecting back to the source of all lifeâinvestigating everywhere the omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent to discover the source of all life in the Light of God. The ideal of religion is living the Light of God in daily life, as available in the field of Total Knowledge, the field of the science and technology of Total Natural Law, the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory
that is funny - I never thought of that From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: You know you may be right, I was thinking it was John Douillard, but maybe it was Andre. Just a (to me) funny aside: Do you think anyone ever checked to see whether their shoe inserts were any different than anyone else's? They might have been...or not. Maybe they were determined by the patient's age, like TM mantras. :-) :-) :-) From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory Oh, I remember that. I think the chiro may have been John Andre. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@ wrote: I don't know why I was thinking of this today, but I remember there was a chiropractor in Fairfield that was having his patients wear some kind of inserts in their shoes to correct their body alignment and also had them putting some kind of plastic or rubber discs or something in their mouths and have the things in their mouths all day long to correct something, I guess maybe the alignment of the jawbones - it was very odd at one point to go into Annapurna and see how many people were slurring their words when attempting to speak cuz they had those mouth inserts - anyone remember that?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fulfillment of Religion
Gosh, no! I have not done any TM courses or rounding since the last WPA I did in 1987 before I left MIU - I would never be allowed on a course given what I have written about TM these last few months if as Buck and others have told me that the TMO looks at website like this one - I also have made some pretty outrageous (from the TMO's point of view) on other places like that Cardio Brief blog a few weeks ago. But I bet they have good courses there From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fulfillment of Religion Hey MJ, have you been to any of those residence courses/WPAs that Diana and Jeff offer on the Outer Banks of NC a couple of times a year, usually before and after the tourist season? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: It is interesting that you post this - this was the very sort of thing that Maharishi would say that inspired me and my friends, kept us going on the path to enlightenment - this was the thing that gave us more impetus to be regular, and especially to go one rounding courses. Now I see that it was one way Maharishi marshaled the troops to continue to stay connected to him and to feed his organization money. Now that I believe as Eckhart Tolle teaches that most meditations are another way of doing (as opposed to just being) and that one does not need to use a mantra to experience Being, it shows the basic advertising tenant of TM is untrue or perhaps superfluous - that one needs a mantra, specifically the TM mantra to transcend, or experience Being - my how times change. Knowledge may not be different in different states of awareness, but it certainly is perceived differently. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fulfillment of Religion  Give us this Day our Daily Bread. The whole purpose of life is to gain enlightenment. Nothing else is significant compared to that completely natural, exalted state of consciousness. So always strive for that. Set your life around that goal. Don't get caught up in small things, and then it will be yours. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi RELIGION is the Supreme science and art of connecting back to the source of all lifeâ€investigating everywhere the omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent to discover the source of all life in the Light of God. The ideal of religion is living the Light of God in daily life, as available in the field of Total Knowledge, the field of the science and technology of Total Natural Law, the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: You know you may be right, I was thinking it was John Douillard, but maybe it was Andre. Douillard was a chiro at Andre's clinic (Five Oaks Clinic, IIRC), but I'm pretty sure all the TMJ mouth hardware was Andre's gig. He also had people wearing those velcro foot straps, worn in a figure 8 around the ankles and under the arches, as arch support. Andre also had a company that made some kick-ass loudspeakers. I used to go to John Douillard; he's the reason my whole body tenses up in fight or flight if a chiropractor even so much as touches my head. He would gently flop my head around and then quickly slam in an adjustment. Now, the only thing that can get past my neck defenses is one of those spring-loaded thumping devices. From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory  Oh, I remember that. I think the chiro may have been John Andre. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@ wrote: I don't know why I was thinking of this today, but I remember there was a chiropractor in Fairfield that was having his patients wear some kind of inserts in their shoes to correct their body alignment and also had them putting some kind of plastic or rubber discs or something in their mouths and have the things in their mouths all day long to correct something, I guess maybe the alignment of the jawbones - it was very odd at one point to go into Annapurna and see how many people were slurring their words when attempting to speak cuz they had those mouth inserts - anyone remember that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-409orSSKI4Q/TmLev1Tsx5I/Bq0/Ina6_FhgBog/s1152/Brahma%2520Shave.png] Buck in the Dome! https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/91bGNCC4oTRAN9-nnXQWU9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink I remember that! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/288309 Those are both really good riffs, BTW, both Rory's originals and Emptybill's revision. I must have spaced on them first time around. Hey! The originals were my creation, dammit! Consider this an invoice! I think someone should -- say, as an art project for an MUM student -- make these up into actual signs and put them on the roads leading into Fairfield. Then get a videocam with a long lens and take footage through the windshields of passersby and how they react to them. I think it would be interesting to see who smiles and who doesn't. Our property is actually a good location for this, as we own a quarter mile stretch along Highway 1, a few miles north of Fairfield.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Voter Frustration Over Politicians
It should be clear to everyone by now that the Republicans are not going to approve any higher tax rate for the wealthy... Bhairitu: Or we could have a tax strike. People could go to their HR departments and raise the exceptions on their tax withholding and bankrupt the government. News flash! The U.S. Government is already bankrupt. We can no longer afford a Plutocracy or there WILL be a violent revolution that will make Greece look like a Sunday picnic. How you gonna have a violent revolution when you don't even attend 'Tea Parties' to protest government spending or even own a weapon? Most people pay little or no federal income tax because of low salaries, exemptions and federal tax credits. When federal income taxes are increased, less tax is collected. I'm in favor of zero income tax, or maybe a flat tax; it's time for the folks working to pay their fair share. Most of the taxes you pay are probably state taxes and taxes on purchases. Here is my plan: Make the federal government lease out all federal land for drilling, in California and all the Western states including Alaska, so that the U.S. can become independent of OPEC oil imports within five years. Raise the federal tax on foreign fuel. 'High Expectations for the Eagle Ford Shale' http://tinyurl.com/cdf6aqb
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gifts vs. Invoices
doctordumbass: You have this image of yourself as this hip ex-pat... Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory
Yep, Douillard is selling all sorts of nostrums out in Boulder, CO these days - dunno where Andre might be - seems like one of them used to be part of the MIU or MUM Ayurvedic Marma Therapy Program, but that was a while ago From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: You know you may be right, I was thinking it was John Douillard, but maybe it was Andre. Douillard was a chiro at Andre's clinic (Five Oaks Clinic, IIRC), but I'm pretty sure all the TMJ mouth hardware was Andre's gig. He also had people wearing those velcro foot straps, worn in a figure 8 around the ankles and under the arches, as arch support. Andre also had a company that made some kick-ass loudspeakers. I used to go to John Douillard; he's the reason my whole body tenses up in fight or flight if a chiropractor even so much as touches my head. He would gently flop my head around and then quickly slam in an adjustment. Now, the only thing that can get past my neck defenses is one of those spring-loaded thumping devices. From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A little memory  Oh, I remember that. I think the chiro may have been John Andre. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74 mjackson74@ wrote: I don't know why I was thinking of this today, but I remember there was a chiropractor in Fairfield that was having his patients wear some kind of inserts in their shoes to correct their body alignment and also had them putting some kind of plastic or rubber discs or something in their mouths and have the things in their mouths all day long to correct something, I guess maybe the alignment of the jawbones - it was very odd at one point to go into Annapurna and see how many people were slurring their words when attempting to speak cuz they had those mouth inserts - anyone remember that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/288309 Those are both really good riffs, BTW, both Rory's originals and Emptybill's revision. I must have spaced on them first time around. Hey! The originals were my creation, dammit! Consider this an invoice! My bad. The check is in the email. I think someone should -- say, as an art project for an MUM student -- make these up into actual signs and put them on the roads leading into Fairfield. Then get a videocam with a long lens and take footage through the windshields of passersby and how they react to them. I think it would be interesting to see who smiles and who doesn't. Our property is actually a good location for this, as we own a quarter mile stretch along Highway 1, a few miles north of Fairfield. You should SO do this, dude. Think of the fun you could have with it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gifts vs. Invoices
Dr. D, There's a reason we call Barry King Baby. Barry has all the significant characteristics of someone who is a paranoid, delusional narcissist including but not limited to 1) Inability to form any meaningful, intimate relationships 2) Inability to detect irony, sarcasm 3) Extreme black and white thinking 4) Strong paranoid, delusional thoughts that people are out to get them 5) Fantasizing on an idealized figure So most of the Barry's message here focusses on #5 - his praise for his idealized figure Curtis. But they are really not friends, that is - there's no meaningful, authentic relationship Barry and Curtis share. Curtis is no generous, unselfish performer as Barry is projecting here. He thrives on praise, Barry provides it - not that Barry is being genuine, genuine in the way he expresses it but it's coming from a place of his inner narcissism. I feel lot of pity for Barry. It's not enough he express praise for his hero, this idealized fantasized figure - he also has to lash out at his enemies, people who are out to get him, these attention vampires. People like Steve, Curtis who enable Barry and his paranoid, delusional behavior are the ones that need to be strongly condemned. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:27 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** God, you are one clueless motherf. you sound like some prepubescent 10 year old here, all gooey and dreamy. You really WANT to grow up - I hear that in your phrases, like this one, What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much... You Just Don't Get It, though. You continue to think you describe others and put them down, as in the example above, BUT ALL YOU DESCRIBE IS YOURSELF. You may not *expect* applause or praise, but you sure as fuck are ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IT FOR YOURSELF, and if you deny that to yourself, as you most certainly will, it just makes you more the fool. You have this image of yourself as this hip ex-pat, but what I see is someone who 1. doesn't do a hell of a lot. 2. possibly has an alcohol problem. 3. has a real issue forming lasting friendships, and intimate relationships, and 4. seems pretty fucking unhappy most of the time. As for Curtis, its all happy happy outside and really pretty fucking angry within. You two are just weird. Can't come up with another way to put it. Oh and by the way, say anything you like in return, or nothing at all. I, unlike you, truly do not give a shit, and LOL you know it! Get real. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: ... Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) take them and run with them and have fun with them. Your writings (along with several others' writing on this forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then demand payment, in the form of attention. The more I think about this gift vs. invoices metaphor, the more multipurpose it becomes. Doesn't it, for example, describe the approach that Maharishi and the TM movement took and continue to take about what they presented to the world. While *calling* them gifts, and pretending benevolence, there was always a price tag attached. It started low -- only $35 US -- but soon escalated into the thousands of dollars, much more if you wanted the good stuff. Even now, when almost literally no one is signing up to learn *anything* the TMO has to offer unless 1) somebody else (like the DLF) pays for it for them, or 2) they're such TBs that they continue pressing the Ca-ching buttons on their bank accounts the way that rats keep pressing the food lever when you add sugar to it. Buck's *entire spiel* is about invoicing. He doesn't demand payment for his claims that butt-bouncers are saving the world...he just demands that the world give them the *credit* for saving it. Gifts are different. You still see that in some meditation traditions. They still teach for free, and once you have learned their basic meditation, they don't keep wheedling you to join a cult or buy more add-on accessories. Coming back to Curtis (my inspiration for this gifts vs. invoicing metaphor), it's easy to see where his generous 'tude came from -- busking. When you share your talents on the streets, you pretty much *have* to do it as gifts. Some people are going to respond and put some money in your guitar case, others aren't. You can't really let whether they do or not drive your performance, or it becomes mercenary and uninteresting. So instead you put your energy into making it the best performance you can give, regardless of whether the crowds appreciate it or not. What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians
But isn't that what Clinton wanted? Remember the good 'ol days of government prosperity? Raising taxes on the *rich*, back to Clinton levels, will only run the Gubment another 8 days a year. Let's screw everybody, especially the poor. It's time to stop subsidizing poverty. The more the government subsidizes poverty , the more of it we get. I'd like to see those earning below the poverty line paying MORE in taxes than those earning just above that line. If we can discourage people from bad behavior like smoking, drinking ,driving and being comfortable in home and workplace, through higher taxes, then we should do the same for being lazy. Tax the *F* out of those able, but unwilling, to work. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians It should be clear to everyone by now that the Republicans are not going to approve any higher tax rate for the wealthy. As such, they will let the Bush Tax Cut legislation expire. And, we'll be stuck with paying higher income taxes beginning on January 1, 2013. http://news.yahoo.com/voter-disdain-spreads-fiscal-cliff-looms-085417763--finance.html
[FairfieldLife] The Doom Boom
How businesses are preparing to profit from the Mayan end of the world http://qz.com/35652/how-businesses-are-preparing-to-profit-from-the-may\ an-end-of-the-world/ The end of the world is very probably not upon us. But the end of a 5125-year Mayan calendar http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20648451 cycle on December 21 has got people everywhere from China to Russia http://qz.com/35652/how-businesses-are-preparing-to-profit-from-the-may\ an-end-of-the-world/Ahead%20of%20December%2021,%20which%20marks%20the%20\ conclusion%20of%20the%205,125-year%20%22Long%20Count%22%20Mayan%20calend\ ar,%20panic%20buying%20of%20candles%20and%20essentials%20has%20been%20re\ ported%20in%20China%20and%20Russia,%20along%20with%20an%20explosion%20in\ %20sales%20of%20survival%20shelters%20in%20America.%20In%20France%20beli\ evers%20were%20preparing%20to%20converge%20on%20a%20mountain%20where%20t\ hey%20believe%20aliens%20will%20rescue%20them. stocking up on candles in the belief that Doomsday is coming. NASA reminds us this is nonsense http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html , saying on its website: Just as the calendar you have on your kitchen wall does not cease to exist after December 31, the Mayan calendar does not cease to exist on December 21, 2012. This date is the end of the Mayan long-count period but thenjust as your calendar begins again on January 1another long-count period begins for the Mayan calendar. Such boring sensible stuff notwithstanding, here are a few ideas for how to see in the non-apocalypse, brought to you by entrepreneurs the world over. And by the way: If Quartz turns out to have been too skeptical, please accept our apologies in advance. We won't be around to issue a correction. 1) Take an apocalypse-themed trip. Ideas abound for Doomsday mini-breaks. This French village believes it will be the only place left standing http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/19/bugarach-french-village-sur\ vive-mayan-apocalypse on December 21. Hotels and restaurants in Cancún, Mexico's party town, have been inviting guests to eat and drink like the end of the world was upon them for much of this year http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2012/03/20/cancun-end-world-celebrations/\ . For people whose holiday needs stretch beyond margaritas and unlimited buffets, Lonely Planet has a good itinerary for a more cultural Mayan themed trip http://www.lonelyplanet.com/central-america/tours/explorer/mayan-encoun\ ter , taking in the ancient Guatemalan city of Tikal. Maybe also visit the tiny Mexican village of Xul http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/20/world/americas/20xul.html?pagewanted=\ all , the heartland of the ancient Maya, where some residents believe apocalypse is upon us. Expedia is offering some Doomsday discounts http://mediaroom.expedia.com/travel-news/expedia-honors-mayan-end-world\ -free-nights-and-big-savings-because-why-not-1733 in this part of the world. Pinterest is loaded up with ideas http://pinterest.com/locogringo/2012-end-of-the-maya-calendar/ for where to go. And hotels near a supposedly mystic mountain in Serbia are besieged with booking requests http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/serbia/9735045/Mayan-a\ pocalypse-Serbias-mystic-mountain-targeted-by-believers.html . There is also the chance to attend this world music festival http://2012wmf.com/index.php/2012-wmf-gatherings held at a variety of Mayan sites while donating to non-profits and listening to top spiritual leaders. 2) Buy some stocks. Investors often over-react to fear, driving stocks down to bargain-basement prices and pushing the valuations of safe haven assets such as US Treasuries up way too high. Now, to be fair, it's not really the Mayan calendar that is stoking up fright in the markets right now. There are real financial armageddon scenarios to be scared about, such as the fiscal cliff http://qz.com/on/fiscal-cliff/ , the European crisis and China's potential economic paralysis http://qz.com/34384/china-is-now-heading-toward-japan-style-economic-pa\ ralysis-if-it-doesnt-change-course/ . Quartz has already argued it could be time http://qz.com/33323/two-charts-that-suggest-the-time-is-right-to-dump-b\ onds-and-buy-stocks/ to load up on shares. Forbes suggests these three companies http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2012/12/03/three-stocks-t\ o-buy-at-the-edge-of-the-fiscal-cliff-and-mayan-calendar/ will benefit from panic. Investment bible Barron's also has advice for making the most of the fear factor http://online.barrons.com/article/SB50001424052748704377904578072741161\ 582954.html (paywall). 3) Have a party. It is nearly Christmas, after all. So why not ditch the traditional Santa hats and mistletoe for a end-of-the-world theme. Hand out flashlights and Milky Way Martinis http://pinterest.com/suzyq9994us/end-of-the-world-party-ideas-dec-21-20\ 12/ (hat tip once again to Pinterest). Make a playlist. REM's Its the End of the World as We Know It
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gifts vs. Invoices
Oh I just can't help it - I guess the Devil has gotten a-hold of me today Except for number 2, it all sounds like Maharishi, with #5 being himself. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gifts vs. Invoices Dr. D, There's a reason we call Barry King Baby. Barry has all the significant characteristics of someone who is a paranoid, delusional narcissist including but not limited to 1) Inability to form any meaningful, intimate relationships 2) Inability to detect irony, sarcasm 3) Extreme black and white thinking 4) Strong paranoid, delusional thoughts that people are out to get them 5) Fantasizing on an idealized figure So most of the Barry's message here focusses on #5 - his praise for his idealized figure Curtis. But they are really not friends, that is - there's no meaningful, authentic relationship Barry and Curtis share. Curtis is no generous, unselfish performer as Barry is projecting here. He thrives on praise, Barry provides it - not that Barry is being genuine, genuine in the way he expresses it but it's coming from a place of his inner narcissism. I feel lot of pity for Barry. It's not enough he express praise for his hero, this idealized fantasized figure - he also has to lash out at his enemies, people who are out to get him, these attention vampires. People like Steve, Curtis who enable Barry and his paranoid, delusional behavior are the ones that need to be strongly condemned. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:27 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: God, you are one clueless motherf. you sound like some prepubescent 10 year old here, all gooey and dreamy. You really WANT to grow up - I hear that in your phrases, like this one, What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much... You Just Don't Get It, though. You continue to think you describe others and put them down, as in the example above, BUT ALL YOU DESCRIBE IS YOURSELF. You may not *expect* applause or praise, but you sure as fuck are ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IT FOR YOURSELF, and if you deny that to yourself, as you most certainly will, it just makes you more the fool. You have this image of yourself as this hip ex-pat, but what I see is someone who 1. doesn't do a hell of a lot. 2. possibly has an alcohol problem. 3. has a real issue forming lasting friendships, and intimate relationships, and 4. seems pretty fucking unhappy most of the time. As for Curtis, its all happy happy outside and really pretty fucking angry within. You two are just weird. Can't come up with another way to put it. Oh and by the way, say anything you like in return, or nothing at all. I, unlike you, truly do not give a shit, and LOL you know it! Get real. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: ... Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) take them and run with them and have fun with them. Your writings (along with several others' writing on this forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then demand payment, in the form of attention. The more I think about this gift vs. invoices metaphor, the more multipurpose it becomes. Doesn't it, for example, describe the approach that Maharishi and the TM movement took and continue to take about what they presented to the world. While *calling* them gifts, and pretending benevolence, there was always a price tag attached. It started low -- only $35 US -- but soon escalated into the thousands of dollars, much more if you wanted the good stuff. Even now, when almost literally no one is signing up to learn *anything* the TMO has to offer unless 1) somebody else (like the DLF) pays for it for them, or 2) they're such TBs that they continue pressing the Ca-ching buttons on their bank accounts the way that rats keep pressing the food lever when you add sugar to it. Buck's *entire spiel* is about invoicing. He doesn't demand payment for his claims that butt-bouncers are saving the world...he just demands that the world give them the *credit* for saving it. Gifts are different. You still see that in some meditation traditions. They still teach for free, and once you have learned their basic meditation, they don't keep wheedling you to join a cult or buy more add-on accessories. Coming back to Curtis (my inspiration for this gifts vs. invoicing metaphor), it's easy to see where his generous 'tude came from -- busking. When you share your talents on the streets, you pretty much *have* to do it as gifts. Some people are going to respond and put some money in your guitar
[FairfieldLife] Speaking of the end of the world...
...what could be a better metaphor for it than this? Last call for Twinkies: Chicago shoppers buy up last shipment http://www.suntimes.com/business/16936952-420/last-call-for-twinkies-ch\ icago-shoppers-buy-up-last-shipment.html Hundreds of Twinkies. And no limits. On the day of what's believed to be the country's final shipment of Hostess Twinkies, right here in Chicago, it was a recipe for a sell-out in less than two hours at the Six Corners Jewel near Irving Park and Milwaukee. The store received more than 600 boxes of the sugary treats to put on its shelves when it opened at 6 a.m. Tuesday. By 8 a.m., they were pretty much gone. Daniel Rosado of Humboldt Park walked out of the store with what was thought to be the last few boxes of vanilla Zingers. Rosado, who said the chocolate versions are his favorite Hostess product, said he'll probably open one box and put the rest away for later with an eye on the expiration dates. I probably won't, like everybody else, sell them, Rosado said. A few minutes later, though, store officials found a few more boxes to set out four boxes of Twinkies and two more boxes of the vanilla Zingers for a few lucky customers like Marian Feuling who got to pick them up in front of TV and newspaper cameras. Feuling said she lives 10 minutes away and picked up two boxes of Twinkies for her 3-year-old grandson J.J., as well as a box of Zingers for her son and daughter-in-law. This is happy, right here, Feuling said. Patti Crenshaw, like Rosado, said she heard on the news it was her last chance to buy some Hostess treats, so she came right over. I'm going to split them up and share them with everybody, Crenshaw said. Hostess Brands, which was reorganizing in bankruptcy, shut down operations Nov. 16 after the company said a strike by bakers crippled its business to the point it had to liquidate. It sought court approval to close and sell off all of its assets. Hundreds of potential buyers, including at least five major retailers, have expressed interest in Hostess' brands, recipes and some of its factories. Hostess spokesman Lance Ignon said a deadline passed Monday for potential bidders to submit letters of interest. While he didn't say how many came in, he said Hostess is evaluating what it received with the anticipation of submitting final bids to the court in January. The company shuttered 36 plants nationwide, including Twinkies' birthplace plant in Schiller Park where 297 workers baked Twinkies, CupCakes, Ho Hos and Honey Buns, and a bakery in Hodgkins where 325 workers baked Beefsteak, Butternut, Home Pride, Nature's Pride and Wonder breads. The Twinkie was created by the Schiller Park bakery manager in 1930. The Chicago region is believed to have received the country's last Twinkie delivery as 20,000 boxes arrived for sale Tuesday. They were offered to customers at the regular price, and there were no limits on purchases. They were not here long, Karen May, public affairs manager for Jewel-Osco, said at the Six Corners store at 4660 W. Irving Park. That store received 635 boxes 60 orange CupCakes, 81 Ding Dongs, 296 Twinkies and 198 various flavors of Zingers. While the Hostess brand and recipes for Twinkie and other products likely will be purchased and the goodies could return to store shelves, Feuling's not convinced they'll ever taste quite the same if they do. We're going to eat them and enjoy them for the holidays, Feuling said.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gifts vs. Invoices
Oh come on MJ - get a grip of yourself. Everyone should and have a healthy dose of narcissism, the whole existence is built on the each of us as unique expressions of the divine. No way Maharishi is a paranoid, delusional narcissist - he must have gotten drunk on power, money so yes unhealthy narcissism with bits of #1 #5, but no I disagree with your assessment. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Oh I just can't help it - I guess the Devil has gotten a-hold of me today Except for number 2, it all sounds like Maharishi, with #5 being himself. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:15 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gifts vs. Invoices Dr. D, There's a reason we call Barry King Baby. Barry has all the significant characteristics of someone who is a paranoid, delusional narcissist including but not limited to 1) Inability to form any meaningful, intimate relationships 2) Inability to detect irony, sarcasm 3) Extreme black and white thinking 4) Strong paranoid, delusional thoughts that people are out to get them 5) Fantasizing on an idealized figure So most of the Barry's message here focusses on #5 - his praise for his idealized figure Curtis. But they are really not friends, that is - there's no meaningful, authentic relationship Barry and Curtis share. Curtis is no generous, unselfish performer as Barry is projecting here. He thrives on praise, Barry provides it - not that Barry is being genuine, genuine in the way he expresses it but it's coming from a place of his inner narcissism. I feel lot of pity for Barry. It's not enough he express praise for his hero, this idealized fantasized figure - he also has to lash out at his enemies, people who are out to get him, these attention vampires. People like Steve, Curtis who enable Barry and his paranoid, delusional behavior are the ones that need to be strongly condemned. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:27 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** God, you are one clueless motherf. you sound like some prepubescent 10 year old here, all gooey and dreamy. You really WANT to grow up - I hear that in your phrases, like this one, What you focus on, you become. If you focus on giving, people return that in kind. If you focus on *taking*, and clearly *expect* applause or praise...not so much... You Just Don't Get It, though. You continue to think you describe others and put them down, as in the example above, BUT ALL YOU DESCRIBE IS YOURSELF. You may not *expect* applause or praise, but you sure as fuck are ALWAYS LOOKING FOR IT FOR YOURSELF, and if you deny that to yourself, as you most certainly will, it just makes you more the fool. You have this image of yourself as this hip ex-pat, but what I see is someone who 1. doesn't do a hell of a lot. 2. possibly has an alcohol problem. 3. has a real issue forming lasting friendships, and intimate relationships, and 4. seems pretty fucking unhappy most of the time. As for Curtis, its all happy happy outside and really pretty fucking angry within. You two are just weird. Can't come up with another way to put it. Oh and by the way, say anything you like in return, or nothing at all. I, unlike you, truly do not give a shit, and LOL you know it! Get real. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: ... Curtis' writings are like gifts. He just throws them out and allows people to enjoy them, ignore them, or (best) take them and run with them and have fun with them. Your writings (along with several others' writing on this forum) are like invoices. You throw them out and then demand payment, in the form of attention. The more I think about this gift vs. invoices metaphor, the more multipurpose it becomes. Doesn't it, for example, describe the approach that Maharishi and the TM movement took and continue to take about what they presented to the world. While *calling* them gifts, and pretending benevolence, there was always a price tag attached. It started low -- only $35 US -- but soon escalated into the thousands of dollars, much more if you wanted the good stuff. Even now, when almost literally no one is signing up to learn *anything* the TMO has to offer unless 1) somebody else (like the DLF) pays for it for them, or 2) they're such TBs that they continue pressing the Ca-ching buttons on their bank accounts the way that rats keep pressing the food lever when you add sugar to it. Buck's *entire spiel* is about invoicing. He doesn't demand payment for his claims that butt-bouncers are saving the world...he just demands that the world give them the *credit* for saving it. Gifts are different. You
Re: [FairfieldLife] Invisible America tallies
The total comprises two numbers: Community plus something else, which we can call X. Is Community the number of people in the Domes? Is X the number of Pandits? The Community tallies haven't changed much. X, whatever it is, became zero on 11/27. Perhaps someone just forgot to add that number to the total, or perhaps the Pandits all left or went on strike. X was zero on 10/25/12 for just one day. The current outage has gone on for 14 days. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: My guess is that both MUM and MSAE students were on Thanksgiving break and lots of older sidhas were visiting family for Thanksgiving. -- *From:* eustace10679 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, December 9, 2012 10:55 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Invisible America tallies What happened on 11/27 and the number of flyers at the domes http://www.invincibleamerica.org/tallies/ fell so abruptly?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Voter Frustration Over Politicians
Mike, Let's be honest. We're broke. That's what Boehner said today. http://news.yahoo.com/gops-boehner-says-obama-slow-walking-cliff-talks-180429101.html If that's the case, why don't the Republicans raise the taxes on the rich? JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: But isn't that what Clinton wanted? Remember the good 'ol days of government prosperity? Raising taxes on the *rich*, back to Clinton levels, will only run the Gubment another 8 days a year. Let's screw everybody, especially the poor. It's time to stop subsidizing poverty. The more the government subsidizes poverty , the more of it we get. I'd like to see those earning below the poverty line paying MORE in taxes than those earning just  above that line. If we can discourage people from bad behavior like smoking, drinking ,driving and being comfortable in home and workplace, through higher taxes, then we should do the same for being lazy. Tax the *F* out of those able, but unwilling, to work. From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians  It should be clear to everyone by now that the Republicans are not going to approve any higher tax rate for the wealthy. As such, they will let the Bush Tax Cut legislation expire. And, we'll be stuck with paying higher income taxes beginning on January 1, 2013. http://news.yahoo.com/voter-disdain-spreads-fiscal-cliff-looms-085417763--finance.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earnest Confusion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Someone once said that if a person is not serious about a spiritual journey, better they do not start at all. Several people here seem to have gotten in over their heads. I'll explain what I mean. Almost any skill is learned, by absorbing it, and practicing it, for proficiency. Fly a plane, drive a car, play music, read a book, become an architect, etc. The relationship of learner to object changes, only as knowledge of the object deepens. There is an assumed 'I', in order to make learning possible. The goal of the spiritual journey is to burn down any previous identity, and transcend completely, in order to make genuine discoveries. Only then do we begin to see the world as it is, watching its glorious and unending unfolding. But, it means confronting deep stories, beliefs, and the emotions, primarily fear, that drive them. Typically, the journey begins with following somebody, Buddha, Jesus (vs. Christ), Mohammed, Shiva, etc., within the context of previous followers; go to a Buddhist temple, read the bible, start a meditation program. Often times, what these followers will do, is substitute the issues of their life, for the glory and promise they feel as new followers of whatever vehicle they have chosen for their spiritual journey. In other words, the previous dream is replaced, or enhanced, by the current dream, the second dream. For many of us, the initial transcending brought about by the TM technique, seems, and seemed, like a better dream. Get all cozy with Vedic Knowledge-lite, sit in front of a guru, put on the trappings of the organization pushing the technique, and dream, dream, dream on. Inevitably, if a person continues the spiritual journey, they are faced with the extinction of the path and the organization that brought them this far. This will mean they cannot return to the dream that set then on their path, nor can they continue refuge in a religion or spiritual organization. They are on their own. HOLY SHIT! Losing one's contextual identity can be a scary thing. Cutting oneself out like a paper doll, to stand alone, then reducing that to ashes, terrifies most people more than physical death does. The response for many is to retreat into the ego, and ideas and theories and beliefs, escaping into yet a third dream. Like Curtis here, on the illusory basis of their ego-bound selves, they are endlessly questioning and challenging these things they exposed themselves to during that initial spiritual discovery - Maharishi was this and that, blah, blah, blah, often simply spouting palaver to salve their foolish ways during their rush to forget themselves at the feet of some teacher or other. They earnestly reject the second dream, for the third; that of earnest confusion. Its a good place to be these days, earnestly confused. People appreciate and respect this type of false searching, this questioning that never turns inward, this dream of false discovery. It makes us appear genuine and heartfelt to others - a nice guy, a sweet woman. Sadly it is neither. So, these terrified fools (sorry but calling it as I see it) retreat into books, theories and thoughts that leave them hopelessly caught in a vise, between whatever dream they falsely followed, and their deep terror of complete dissolution. However, they have learned enough of their rejected path to have gained some insight. This makes them appear wise, and knowledgeable and widely read. The reality is that they are not a whole lot further along in their spiritual path as when they started. Want to know how to see this type of person? They are tied to their past formal path of spiritual discovery. Even though they are convinced they have rejected it, and seen the truth of it for themselves, the confusion around their previous path follows them around like a shadow. Sensing this shadow, they are constantly denigrating it, often by attacking those they perceive as accepting the same spiritual path in a less critical manner. This is all the earnestly confused have - this one insight that the spiritual organization they got into bed with, was simply another dream! They rail at it, and try to wake up others to this fact. They accomplished something! They saw through the tmo dream! AND IT IS IMPERATIVE that they convince others of this. However, since they are stunted on their way to spiritual freedom, and by definition, continuing to dream themselves, they have nothing to offer those who they are trying to wake up; the blinders leading the blind. And others smell this on them. These third dreamers become like politicians, telling others the endless errors of their ways, but offering nothing in return. So, unfortunately, they become lost between attempting to convert others to their one insight, yet not
[FairfieldLife] Re: Voter Frustration Over Politicians
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: It should be clear to everyone by now that the Republicans are not going to approve any higher tax rate for the wealthy. As such, they will let the Bush Tax Cut legislation expire. And, we'll be stuck with paying higher income taxes beginning on January 1, 2013. http://news.yahoo.com/voter-disdain-spreads-fiscal-cliff-looms-085417763--finance.html Yeah. And then, let the Republicans look like fools if they argue *against lowering taxes* for the working class January 3rd. It's the best possible political outcome for Democrats. They get what they want by doing nothing while Republicans shoot themselves in the foot. http://youtu.be/gMuA8I2M5l0 The voters should realize by now that they should vote their Republican representatives OUT in the next election.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Voter Frustration Over Politicians
On 12/11/2012 10:30 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: It should be clear to everyone by now that the Republicans are not going to approve any higher tax rate for the wealthy... Bhairitu: Or we could have a tax strike. People could go to their HR departments and raise the exceptions on their tax withholding and bankrupt the government. News flash! The U.S. Government is already bankrupt. We can no longer afford a Plutocracy or there WILL be a violent revolution that will make Greece look like a Sunday picnic. How you gonna have a violent revolution when you don't even attend 'Tea Parties' to protest government spending or even own a weapon? Where did I say I would be part of the violent revolution? History repeats itself but I don't think it is the Tea Party boobs who would revolt even though they should. Where the mood is now (in Michigan and not about taxes but...) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdsjPiX3aGU Most people pay little or no federal income tax because of low salaries, exemptions and federal tax credits. When federal income taxes are increased, less tax is collected. The Plutocrats made out like bandits because of the Bush tax cuts. Leave the tax cuts for the middle class in place and raise taxes on those making over $250K a little. Or there will be blood. I'm in favor of zero income tax, or maybe a flat tax; it's time for the folks working to pay their fair share. Most of the taxes you pay are probably state taxes and taxes on purchases. How about no tax until you have an estate worth $250K? Here is my plan: Make the federal government lease out all federal land for drilling, in California and all the Western states including Alaska, so that the U.S. can become independent of OPEC oil imports within five years. Raise the federal tax on foreign fuel. So you want to destroy our federal parks system?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-409orSSKI4Q/TmLev1Tsx5I/Bq0/Ina6_FhgBog/s1152/Brahma%2520Shave.png] Buck in the Dome! https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/91bGNCC4oTRAN9-nnXQWU9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink I remember that! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/288309 Those are both really good riffs, BTW, both Rory's originals and Emptybill's revision. I must have spaced on them first time around. Hey! The originals were my creation, dammit! Consider this an invoice! I think someone should -- say, as an art project for an MUM student -- make these up into actual signs and put them on the roads leading into Fairfield. Then get a videocam with a long lens and take footage through the windshields of passersby and how they react to them. I think it would be interesting to see who smiles and who doesn't. Our property is actually a good location for this, as we own a quarter mile stretch along Highway 1, a few miles north of Fairfield. The original artwork is mine. Invoice, please.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians
Who says that people who cannot find work are lazy? There are plenty of well qualified workers who can't find work. There isn't enough work for the working population. How are we subsidizing poverty? You know who the biggest welfare recipients are? The military industrial complex. So let's start there if you want to stop welfare. OTOH, I'm all for stipends for everyone or what was once called a guaranteed annual income proposed by that old commie . Richard M. Nixon. On 12/11/2012 11:20 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: But isn't that what Clinton wanted? Remember the good 'ol days of government prosperity? Raising taxes on the *rich*, back to Clinton levels, will only run the Gubment another 8 days a year. Let's screw everybody, especially the poor. It's time to stop subsidizing poverty. The more the government subsidizes poverty , the more of it we get. I'd like to see those earning below the poverty line paying MORE in taxes than those earning just above that line. If we can discourage people from bad behavior like smoking, drinking ,driving and being comfortable in home and workplace, through higher taxes, then we should do the same for being lazy. Tax the *F* out of those able, but unwilling, to work. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians It should be clear to everyone by now that the Republicans are not going to approve any higher tax rate for the wealthy. As such, they will let the Bush Tax Cut legislation expire. And, we'll be stuck with paying higher income taxes beginning on January 1, 2013. http://news.yahoo.com/voter-disdain-spreads-fiscal-cliff-looms-085417763--finance.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Alright! Course food accompainment!
Wow Obba. Dom and David Lynch! Amazing. Is the same one? I would definitely have to be drinking Dom to listen for long to Mr. Lynch. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 5:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Alright! Course food accompainment! http://www.domperignon.com/image/laevent-firstlook/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 12-12-2012
Om, we lucky few. Om that we now had here But one ten thousand of those men in Leiden That do no work to-day! Nay, for tomorrow we are enough to do the lot. We would not meditate in the company of them who spurn our fellowship to meditate with us. 12.11.2012 For the few meditators the greater share of honour. Avert the danger now before it comes even tomorrow, Come Be all that you can Be with us along in the group meditation. Come today and tomorrow and join us. Come to meditation, -Buck in the Dome On 12/12/12, a very intense grouping of planets takes place all in Scorpio, with the Sun and Moon conjunct forming a new Moon (dark, waning, 15th tithi). The Sun, Moon , Mercury, Venus and Rahu will all be conjunct in Scorpio. This planetary combination brings up powerful intensity and can indicate explosive situations. 12.10.2012 Less than only two Days now to prepare our Selves finally for what is coming. It is coming. Maintain your good discipline of coherent meditation up to the end and let no able meditator break from our ranks now. We meditate together at 7:30am and 5pm. There will be no skulking and no standing this one out; but for a better world we do this now: Come sit here and take this flower... For Heaven's sake even in this world Om Shanti! !Om Jerusalem! Om Zion! Om Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu... ! Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti. For whether pure or impure or whether purity or impurity is permeating everywhere who soever opens themselves to this expanded vision of inner awareness gains inner and outer purity. Sit up and Be with us in meditation. See you in meditation in the Dome and beyond in the New Jerusalem coming when the end of these times comes in that new morning and the old calendar rolls over, -Buck 12.9.2012 Make this our determination known to all meditators of the movement; prepare the meditators for what work is now to ensue. 12.6.2012 General Orders: Meditators our campaigning is not over, as meditators we will move forward from here. A laying-down rest is not to be taken now but sit up and take watch in restful alertness and consolidate what gains we have made, secure our lines of supply, concentrate support of all our allies and all the laws of Nature in to our ranks. Together we will be moving forward in consciousness. Plan now on when you are going to do your next meditation. Set a time in your day now in synchrony with the whole group. Picket against that sin that will draw and take you away from the group and skirmish aggressively against the counter-attack of all that is spiritually ignorant in the nay-sayer's sap. Attend to the group and meditate with discipline. Now is not the time to sleep. Stay alert and stay close. This we ask of you and all will be taken care of, -Buck in the Dome Tanks on streets of Egypt Capital. The Egyptian army has deployed tanks and armoured troop carriers outside the presidential palace in Cairo after clashes between supporters and opponents of President Mohammed Morsi left five dead and hundreds injured. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Gaza missiles fired at Tel Aviv Militants target Tel Aviv with missiles fired from the Gaza Strip, while Israel authorizes the call-up of 30,000 reservists. Israel calls up army reservists. Update: Egypt's leaders promise to support Gaza against Israeli attacks, as
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/288309 Those are both really good riffs, BTW, both Rory's originals and Emptybill's revision. I must have spaced on them first time around. Hey! The originals were my creation, dammit! Consider this an invoice! I think someone should -- say, as an art project for an MUM student -- make these up into actual signs and put them on the roads leading into Fairfield. Then get a videocam with a long lens and take footage through the windshields of passersby and how they react to them. I think it would be interesting to see who smiles and who doesn't. Our property is actually a good location for this, as we own a quarter mile stretch along Highway 1, a few miles north of Fairfield. The original artwork is mine. Invoice, please. Fuck you. Have you learned *nothing* from the history of the TM movement? We're going to steal your concept, do a cheap knockoff of it, call it Maharishi Brahma Shave, trademark the sucker, overcharge for it, and use it to make millions. That's what Maharishi did with TM, after all. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily about extremely polarized thinking
Robin, your comments are always so interestingI will confirm that I never have seen Christ walk on the water, as it were, although I've seen flocks of birds skim across the ocean waves in formation. I am also distinctly aware that I am missing the enlightenment experience in this lifetime, for example, in the terms that MJ was using yesterday. But, it will have to be O.K., despite the constant hits to my credibility. From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily about extremely polarized thinking --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Emily: Dear Robin, I am just getting back.  I haven't read the other responses.  I don't like to base what I write on what other people write.  I like to be spontaneous. Now, regarding your last sentence.  Don't you think that's just a bit over the top? Robin: No I don't. You quite obviously either don't understand what I meant, or you are unable to recognize how sweetly and poignantly reasonable you were being (in that last paragraph especially). Most of us here have been metaphysically and physiologically cultured in TM, Maharishi, and his Teaching. You have not. I believe this means you can experience some quality of life in a way that we might never again experience it--this virginal status (for me at least) is significant. And it means something of life in ignorance of TM and Maharishi gets expressed and comes through. All of us TMers are unconsciously influenced by our Maharishi past. Even if we have, as I have, repudiated him and his Teaching--and no longer practice TM. What this means is that when you try to appeal to your friend here, apart from your humility and passion, you are giving her something fresh and original. I feel this. Your seriousness, your sincerity seems about as real as it could be. And then there is an intelligence that pervades everything, including your very personality. Perhaps some of us can appreciate your more (because of your non-TM influenced consciousness) than other people in your life who are Maharishi-ignorant. Just sensing a form of objectivity in you, Emily, that I don't feel I am quite capable of exercising--because of my extreme blow-out with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. We, as it were, saw Christ walk on the water. Those of us who see how true you have been to Share Long are in the minority. But we do *perceive* this truth about you, Emily. Ann Woelfle Bater is not a liar. Emily:  I am putting myself in Share's shoes right now, just so you know.  I have the ability to move between realities, or rather, feel what it is like in someone else's shoes.  Robin: Yes, I know this. As you can see, Emily, I stand behind my comments about your post. From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily about extremely polarized thinking  This letter gave me something, Emily. It is truth going everywhere it can go. It almost seems what should take the place of prayer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip BTW, I said it was a NEW low for Emily and Raunchy. Not so new for Ravi, right? Dear Share, I missed this earlier. I stopped in for lunch, but let us agree to start right here, with this statement. Us, as in you and me. I have let our entire history go; I apologize for hurting your feelings and I will think fondly of you when I meditate next. Now, deep breathahh. O.K. It's a lovely day here, so I must get back to the ocean, because that is where God resides and I'm only here for another day. I will be back later and hope to hear from you. Please, I really want to work this out with you. I really do. What specifically is a NEW low for me? Specifically. Please quote anything I've written in support of this allegation and explain what it is and why you think it is. I will cop to it all and explain the context and reason why I wrote it, if true. But, I *really* need you to explain what it is. I'm seriously confused and don't understand all of what I am interpreting as purely negative attack rhetoric coming out of you. I could be wrong; I have been wrong before. Let us just figure this one thing out in present time. Sincerely, Emily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: No Share, that's *not* what I say or have said.  I have said that you avoid - I have nothing but multiple concrete examples of this I could show you, if I cared enough to spend the time to do so, and I don't.  Good barb on me running to the coast and walking my dog.  Way to
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earnest Confusion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Someone once said that if a person is not serious about a spiritual journey, better they do not start at all. Several people here seem to have gotten in over their heads. I'll explain what I mean. Almost any skill is learned, by absorbing it, and practicing it, for proficiency. Fly a plane, drive a car, play music, read a book, become an architect, etc. The relationship of learner to object changes, only as knowledge of the object deepens. There is an assumed 'I', in order to make learning possible. The goal of the spiritual journey is to burn down any previous identity, and transcend completely, in order to make genuine discoveries. Only then do we begin to see the world as it is, watching its glorious and unending unfolding. But, it means confronting deep stories, beliefs, and the emotions, primarily fear, that drive them. Typically, the journey begins with following somebody, Buddha, Jesus (vs. Christ), Mohammed, Shiva, etc., within the context of previous followers; go to a Buddhist temple, read the bible, start a meditation program. Often times, what these followers will do, is substitute the issues of their life, for the glory and promise they feel as new followers of whatever vehicle they have chosen for their spiritual journey. In other words, the previous dream is replaced, or enhanced, by the current dream, the second dream. For many of us, the initial transcending brought about by the TM technique, seems, and seemed, like a better dream. Get all cozy with Vedic Knowledge-lite, sit in front of a guru, put on the trappings of the organization pushing the technique, and dream, dream, dream on. Inevitably, if a person continues the spiritual journey, they are faced with the extinction of the path and the organization that brought them this far. This will mean they cannot return to the dream that set then on their path, nor can they continue refuge in a religion or spiritual organization. They are on their own. HOLY SHIT! Losing one's contextual identity can be a scary thing. Cutting oneself out like a paper doll, to stand alone, then reducing that to ashes, terrifies most people more than physical death does. The response for many is to retreat into the ego, and ideas and theories and beliefs, escaping into yet a third dream. Like Curtis here, on the illusory basis of their ego-bound selves, they are endlessly questioning and challenging these things they exposed themselves to during that initial spiritual discovery - Maharishi was this and that, blah, blah, blah, often simply spouting palaver to salve their foolish ways during their rush to forget themselves at the feet of some teacher or other. They earnestly reject the second dream, for the third; that of earnest confusion. Its a good place to be these days, earnestly confused. People appreciate and respect this type of false searching, this questioning that never turns inward, this dream of false discovery. It makes us appear genuine and heartfelt to others - a nice guy, a sweet woman. Sadly it is neither. So, these terrified fools (sorry but calling it as I see it) retreat into books, theories and thoughts that leave them hopelessly caught in a vise, between whatever dream they falsely followed, and their deep terror of complete dissolution. However, they have learned enough of their rejected path to have gained some insight. This makes them appear wise, and knowledgeable and widely read. The reality is that they are not a whole lot further along in their spiritual path as when they started. Want to know how to see this type of person? They are tied to their past formal path of spiritual discovery. Even though they are convinced they have rejected it, and seen the truth of it for themselves, the confusion around their previous path follows them around like a shadow. Sensing this shadow, they are constantly denigrating it, often by attacking those they perceive as accepting the same spiritual path in a less critical manner. This is all the earnestly confused have - this one insight that the spiritual organization they got into bed with, was simply another dream! They rail at it, and try to wake up others to this fact. They accomplished something! They saw through the tmo dream! AND IT IS IMPERATIVE that they convince others of this. However, since they are stunted on their way to spiritual freedom, and by definition, continuing to dream themselves, they have nothing to offer those who they are trying to wake up; the blinders leading the blind. And others smell this on them. These third dreamers become like politicians, telling others the endless errors
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And so this is Christmas
Thanks Raunchy - it is difficult to explain the feeling of an abstract experience. Cute picture. The picture of the professor dog, which I love, is the closest look to Sandy, although she does think she wears a crown. I brought her back to show the pet store owner who helped me this summer with her when I was in the campground. She was happy to see her and then said all of a sudden as I was talking to her; Oh, you seem mentally better. Ha. I forgot I was confronting my survival in the campgrounds at the beach this summer. We agreed it must be the influence of the little dog and all those walks I've been taking. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: And so this is Christmas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: This is exactly what I'm asking.  Is it explainable? Excellent questions. An abstract experience is not easily explained, particularly the experiences MJ is talking about. Your experience at the beach hints at it. IMO TM makes your beach experience possible regularly. Explaining the abstract experiences that MJ is talking about was Maharishi's strong suit. MJ rejected the TMO long ago and that's O.K. but as far as the TM technique goes, he stills seems to get benefits from it. Interestingly he still uses the abstract concepts that he learned from Maharishi to explain his experiences. Maybe he does so because it's a language that he's familiar with that validates his experience. So the TMO has a lot of baggage. BFD, IMO, I wish people would just stop whining about it, but that's going to happen. Oh, well, I still like the TM *technique* and MJ seems to as well. To each his own. I don't know if this link works but I thought of you and your little dog Sandy when I saw it: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/45290_535581186469626_881860797_n.jpg From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: And so this is Christmas  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I definitely go up and down; it's a real drag.  Or maybe not.  What you say below sounds like something Xeno would say.  You are immersed in unbounded awareness?  How do you know this?  Maybe you just think you are.  How do you know you tasted a strawberry and how would you explain it to anyone who hasn't? From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And so this is Christmas  But like I said this is my daily experience so meditation is not something I do for more than a few minutes - its useful for release of body stress but the rest, well I already am immersed in unbounded awareness, so its just thinking the mantra in the cosmic soup, I don't go up or down. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And so this is Christmas  Dear MJ, how do you define Pure Awareness?  The Absolute is enlivened in you?  What does that feel like.  From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And so this is Christmas  Thanks Emily, for your kind words. For me I started out with TM and the first thing it did was help me sleep better, which was a blessing at the time. And fairly soon after I started TM I began to have what might be termed classic experiences of clear transcending, and then CC, GC (lots of those) and some Unity, and even which for me was real cool, a couple very clear although minor experiences of ritambhara pragya when I was on staff working for the team of governors who were teaching sidhi prep courses in North and South Carolina in the late 70's. This led me to believe that all the things M said about consciousness and TM leading to enlightenment were true since I seemed to be on that path through direct experience. I also assumed that the promises about life improvement such as better behavior, better relationships and so forth were also true. But I early on began to see a large gap between what was promised or claimed for the effects of TM and the actual behavior and energy of most of the leaders and managers of the Movement. Like so many others l made excuses for that gap,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/288309 Those are both really good riffs, BTW, both Rory's originals and Emptybill's revision. I must have spaced on them first time around. Hey! The originals were my creation, dammit! Consider this an invoice! I think someone should -- say, as an art project for an MUM student -- make these up into actual signs and put them on the roads leading into Fairfield. Then get a videocam with a long lens and take footage through the windshields of passersby and how they react to them. I think it would be interesting to see who smiles and who doesn't. Our property is actually a good location for this, as we own a quarter mile stretch along Highway 1, a few miles north of Fairfield. The original artwork is mine. Invoice, please. Fuck you. Have you learned *nothing* from the history of the TM movement? We're going to steal your concept, do a cheap knockoff of it, call it Maharishi Brahma Shave, trademark the sucker, overcharge for it, and use it to make millions. That's what Maharishi did with TM, after all. :-) Fuck you yourself, douchebag. Barry, it's J-U-S-T a S-I-G-N, not a cash cow. If you have that big a hair up your ass about it, your toupée really needs to get a grip. Problems at home? irritable bowel syndrome? meds not working? http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server3000/86d67/products/602/images/747/841_1__28784.1312921797.600.600.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earnest Confusion
Raunchy just made 'Post of the Week' so far. You are one smart,kick- ass woman and I get something good every time I read what you have to say. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Someone once said that if a person is not serious about a spiritual journey, better they do not start at all. Several people here seem to have gotten in over their heads. I'll explain what I mean. Almost any skill is learned, by absorbing it, and practicing it, for proficiency. Fly a plane, drive a car, play music, read a book, become an architect, etc. The relationship of learner to object changes, only as knowledge of the object deepens. There is an assumed 'I', in order to make learning possible. The goal of the spiritual journey is to burn down any previous identity, and transcend completely, in order to make genuine discoveries. Only then do we begin to see the world as it is, watching its glorious and unending unfolding. But, it means confronting deep stories, beliefs, and the emotions, primarily fear, that drive them. Typically, the journey begins with following somebody, Buddha, Jesus (vs. Christ), Mohammed, Shiva, etc., within the context of previous followers; go to a Buddhist temple, read the bible, start a meditation program. Often times, what these followers will do, is substitute the issues of their life, for the glory and promise they feel as new followers of whatever vehicle they have chosen for their spiritual journey. In other words, the previous dream is replaced, or enhanced, by the current dream, the second dream. For many of us, the initial transcending brought about by the TM technique, seems, and seemed, like a better dream. Get all cozy with Vedic Knowledge-lite, sit in front of a guru, put on the trappings of the organization pushing the technique, and dream, dream, dream on. Inevitably, if a person continues the spiritual journey, they are faced with the extinction of the path and the organization that brought them this far. This will mean they cannot return to the dream that set then on their path, nor can they continue refuge in a religion or spiritual organization. They are on their own. HOLY SHIT! Losing one's contextual identity can be a scary thing. Cutting oneself out like a paper doll, to stand alone, then reducing that to ashes, terrifies most people more than physical death does. The response for many is to retreat into the ego, and ideas and theories and beliefs, escaping into yet a third dream. Like Curtis here, on the illusory basis of their ego-bound selves, they are endlessly questioning and challenging these things they exposed themselves to during that initial spiritual discovery - Maharishi was this and that, blah, blah, blah, often simply spouting palaver to salve their foolish ways during their rush to forget themselves at the feet of some teacher or other. They earnestly reject the second dream, for the third; that of earnest confusion. Its a good place to be these days, earnestly confused. People appreciate and respect this type of false searching, this questioning that never turns inward, this dream of false discovery. It makes us appear genuine and heartfelt to others - a nice guy, a sweet woman. Sadly it is neither. So, these terrified fools (sorry but calling it as I see it) retreat into books, theories and thoughts that leave them hopelessly caught in a vise, between whatever dream they falsely followed, and their deep terror of complete dissolution. However, they have learned enough of their rejected path to have gained some insight. This makes them appear wise, and knowledgeable and widely read. The reality is that they are not a whole lot further along in their spiritual path as when they started. Want to know how to see this type of person? They are tied to their past formal path of spiritual discovery. Even though they are convinced they have rejected it, and seen the truth of it for themselves, the confusion around their previous path follows them around like a shadow. Sensing this shadow, they are constantly denigrating it, often by attacking those they perceive as accepting the same spiritual path in a less critical manner. This is all the earnestly confused have - this one insight that the spiritual organization they got into bed with, was simply another dream! They rail at it, and try to wake up others to this fact. They accomplished something! They saw through the tmo dream! AND IT IS IMPERATIVE that they convince others of this. However, since they are stunted on their way to spiritual freedom, and by definition, continuing to dream themselves, they have nothing to offer those who they are trying to wake up; the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
Good advice for many of us, thanks (-: From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones Triggered is a really interesting word, because it would mean literally shooting someone in self-defense. In self defense. In defense of the self, the core beliefs, that, wrapped about the ego, form the identity. So to be triggered is to react instinctively to what one perceives as a threat to false identity - the self. So if I were someone who was triggered, I'd spend time figuring out why. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty about him. Did I miss something important? Anyway, I was glad she posted his info. Yeah, I got triggered by what Rancid Bu er Raunchy said about John. So what?! Oh right, like you all NEVER get triggered?! Or if you do, it's only about Really Important Stuff. Whatever! Emily I was not suggesting that anyone needed HELP from John Newton. I think I used the phrase EXTRA BENEFITS. And I think Raunchy knows exactly what I mean by people in her life in this context. BTW, yes we are moving onto other topics now. Slowly but surely. Kind of like Oozing Butter. Anyway, I aim to avoid using wts. Though even in recent posts there is evidence of more wts thinking. Sigh...a Butter Bouncer's work is never done (-:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earnest Confusion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: Raunchy just made 'Post of the Week' so far. You are one smart,kick- ass woman and I get something good every time I read what you have to say. Thanks, Ann. Invoice, please. Not really, I'm just saying that to irritate Barry. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Someone once said that if a person is not serious about a spiritual journey, better they do not start at all. Several people here seem to have gotten in over their heads. I'll explain what I mean. Almost any skill is learned, by absorbing it, and practicing it, for proficiency. Fly a plane, drive a car, play music, read a book, become an architect, etc. The relationship of learner to object changes, only as knowledge of the object deepens. There is an assumed 'I', in order to make learning possible. The goal of the spiritual journey is to burn down any previous identity, and transcend completely, in order to make genuine discoveries. Only then do we begin to see the world as it is, watching its glorious and unending unfolding. But, it means confronting deep stories, beliefs, and the emotions, primarily fear, that drive them. Typically, the journey begins with following somebody, Buddha, Jesus (vs. Christ), Mohammed, Shiva, etc., within the context of previous followers; go to a Buddhist temple, read the bible, start a meditation program. Often times, what these followers will do, is substitute the issues of their life, for the glory and promise they feel as new followers of whatever vehicle they have chosen for their spiritual journey. In other words, the previous dream is replaced, or enhanced, by the current dream, the second dream. For many of us, the initial transcending brought about by the TM technique, seems, and seemed, like a better dream. Get all cozy with Vedic Knowledge-lite, sit in front of a guru, put on the trappings of the organization pushing the technique, and dream, dream, dream on. Inevitably, if a person continues the spiritual journey, they are faced with the extinction of the path and the organization that brought them this far. This will mean they cannot return to the dream that set then on their path, nor can they continue refuge in a religion or spiritual organization. They are on their own. HOLY SHIT! Losing one's contextual identity can be a scary thing. Cutting oneself out like a paper doll, to stand alone, then reducing that to ashes, terrifies most people more than physical death does. The response for many is to retreat into the ego, and ideas and theories and beliefs, escaping into yet a third dream. Like Curtis here, on the illusory basis of their ego-bound selves, they are endlessly questioning and challenging these things they exposed themselves to during that initial spiritual discovery - Maharishi was this and that, blah, blah, blah, often simply spouting palaver to salve their foolish ways during their rush to forget themselves at the feet of some teacher or other. They earnestly reject the second dream, for the third; that of earnest confusion. Its a good place to be these days, earnestly confused. People appreciate and respect this type of false searching, this questioning that never turns inward, this dream of false discovery. It makes us appear genuine and heartfelt to others - a nice guy, a sweet woman. Sadly it is neither. So, these terrified fools (sorry but calling it as I see it) retreat into books, theories and thoughts that leave them hopelessly caught in a vise, between whatever dream they falsely followed, and their deep terror of complete dissolution. However, they have learned enough of their rejected path to have gained some insight. This makes them appear wise, and knowledgeable and widely read. The reality is that they are not a whole lot further along in their spiritual path as when they started. Want to know how to see this type of person? They are tied to their past formal path of spiritual discovery. Even though they are convinced they have rejected it, and seen the truth of it for themselves, the confusion around their previous path follows them around like a shadow. Sensing this shadow, they are constantly denigrating it, often by attacking those they perceive as accepting the same spiritual path in a less critical manner. This is all the earnestly confused have - this one insight that the spiritual organization they got into bed with, was simply another dream! They rail at it, and try to wake up others to this fact. They accomplished something! They saw through the tmo dream! AND IT
[FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily about extremely polarized thinking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I will confirm that I never have seen Christ walk on the water, as it were, although I've seen flocks of birds skim across the ocean waves in formation. And, in the isolation of the sky, At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make Ambiguous undulations as they sink, Downward to darkness, on extended wings. From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily about extremely polarized thinking  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Emily: Dear Robin, I am just getting back. àI haven't read the other responses. àI don't like to base what I write on what other people write. àI like to be spontaneous. Now, regarding your last sentence. àDon't you think that's just a bit over the top? Robin: No I don't. You quite obviously either don't understand what I meant, or you are unable to recognize how sweetly and poignantly reasonable you were being (in that last paragraph especially). Most of us here have been metaphysically and physiologically cultured in TM, Maharishi, and his Teaching. You have not. I believe this means you can experience some quality of life in a way that we might never again experience it--this virginal status (for me at least) is significant. And it means something of life in ignorance of TM and Maharishi gets expressed and comes through. All of us TMers are unconsciously influenced by our Maharishi past. Even if we have, as I have, repudiated him and his Teaching--and no longer practice TM. What this means is that when you try to appeal to your friend here, apart from your humility and passion, you are giving her something fresh and original. I feel this. Your seriousness, your sincerity seems about as real as it could be. And then there is an intelligence that pervades everything, including your very personality. Perhaps some of us can appreciate your more (because of your non-TM influenced consciousness) than other people in your life who are Maharishi-ignorant. Just sensing a form of objectivity in you, Emily, that I don't feel I am quite capable of exercising--because of my extreme blow-out with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. We, as it were, saw Christ walk on the water. Those of us who see how true you have been to Share Long are in the minority. But we do *perceive* this truth about you, Emily. Ann Woelfle Bater is not a liar. Emily: àI am putting myself in Share's shoes right now, just so you know. àI have the ability to move between realities, or rather, feel what it is like in someone else's shoes. à Robin: Yes, I know this. As you can see, Emily, I stand behind my comments about your post.  From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily about extremely polarized thinking àThis letter gave me something, Emily. It is truth going everywhere it can go. It almost seems what should take the place of prayer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip BTW, I said it was a NEW low for Emily and Raunchy.ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ Not so new for Ravi, right? Dear Share, I missed this earlier. I stopped in for lunch, but let us agree to start right here, with this statement. Us, as in you and me. I have let our entire history go; I apologize for hurting your feelings and I will think fondly of you when I meditate next. Now, deep breathahh. O.K. It's a lovely day here, so I must get back to the ocean, because that is where God resides and I'm only here for another day. I will be back later and hope to hear from you. Please, I really want to work this out with you. I really do. What specifically is a NEW low for me? Specifically. Please quote anything I've written in support of this allegation and explain what it is and why you think it is. I will cop to it all and explain the context and reason why I wrote it, if true. But, I *really* need you to explain what it is. I'm seriously confused and don't understand all of what I am interpreting as purely negative attack rhetoric coming out of you. I could be wrong; I have been wrong before. Let us just figure this one thing out in present time. Sincerely, Emily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: No Share, that's *not* what I say or have said. ÃâàI have said that you avoid - I have nothing but multiple concrete examples of this I could show you, if I cared enough to spend the time to do so, and
Re: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
Dear Share - you have missed the point entirely and are again restating your righteousness in assigning those you don't like to a cult. Clearly you believe this. I reject this concept completely, just so you know, and want to inform you that your black and white, polarized thinking is not doing you any service. You are seemingly in unbelievable denial about your own self, despite all this meditation and healing you do, and my opinion is that you subconsciously use it *to* avoid yourself and bolster your false self and attitude of self-righteousness so you never have to get real with anyone. You may take this conclusion from me as what I think sincerely at this point in time. You routinely exercise a mean streak. *You* don't have the cojones to admit or defend or discuss anything you post - you simply launch one attack after another. I'm guessing you do see yourself as a savior, don't you - the butter bouncer in this latest scenario. So far, we've had psychological rape, vile accusations wts, FFL high school with the penguins, numerous suggestions, put-downs, name-calling, and judgments, your promise to pray for us, your wishing complete healing on us all, your doing everything possible to avoid having a discussion about anything with anybody who might challenge you (which btw is everyone on this forum), and your constant acting out of your vision of yourself as a victim of those you've identified as your enemies. I'm too exhausted to continue. If you had any ability to both take it and give it, I might forgive this and commend you on your creative use of the term butter. Unfortunately, I sincerely believe you actually believe all this and the undertones are intuitively mean. If I respond with humor, you'll call me creepy right? Why are you here, Share? What do you get out of this forum? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty about him. Did I miss something important? Anyway, I was glad she posted his info. Yeah, I got triggered by what Rancid Bu er Raunchy said about John. So what?! Oh right, like you all NEVER get triggered?! Or if you do, it's only about Really Important Stuff. Whatever! Emily I was not suggesting that anyone needed HELP from John Newton. I think I used the phrase EXTRA BENEFITS. And I think Raunchy knows exactly what I mean by people in her life in this context. BTW, yes we are moving onto other topics now. Slowly but surely. Kind of like Oozing Butter. Anyway, I aim to avoid using wts. Though even in recent posts there is evidence of more wts thinking. Sigh...a Butter Bouncer's work is never done (-:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earnest Confusion
Agreed - she's on a roll. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earnest Confusion Raunchy just made 'Post of the Week' so far. You are one smart,kick- ass woman and I get something good every time I read what you have to say. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Someone once said that if a person is not serious about a spiritual journey, better they do not start at all. Several people here seem to have gotten in over their heads. I'll explain what I mean. Almost any skill is learned, by absorbing it, and practicing it, for proficiency. Fly a plane, drive a car, play music, read a book, become an architect, etc. The relationship of learner to object changes, only as knowledge of the object deepens. There is an assumed 'I', in order to make learning possible. The goal of the spiritual journey is to burn down any previous identity, and transcend completely, in order to make genuine discoveries. Only then do we begin to see the world as it is, watching its glorious and unending unfolding. But, it means confronting deep stories, beliefs, and the emotions, primarily fear, that drive them. Typically, the journey begins with following somebody, Buddha, Jesus (vs. Christ), Mohammed, Shiva, etc., within the context of previous followers; go to a Buddhist temple, read the bible, start a meditation program. Often times, what these followers will do, is substitute the issues of their life, for the glory and promise they feel as new followers of whatever vehicle they have chosen for their spiritual journey. In other words, the previous dream is replaced, or enhanced, by the current dream, the second dream. For many of us, the initial transcending brought about by the TM technique, seems, and seemed, like a better dream. Get all cozy with Vedic Knowledge-lite, sit in front of a guru, put on the trappings of the organization pushing the technique, and dream, dream, dream on. Inevitably, if a person continues the spiritual journey, they are faced with the extinction of the path and the organization that brought them this far. This will mean they cannot return to the dream that set then on their path, nor can they continue refuge in a religion or spiritual organization. They are on their own. HOLY SHIT! Losing one's contextual identity can be a scary thing. Cutting oneself out like a paper doll, to stand alone, then reducing that to ashes, terrifies most people more than physical death does. The response for many is to retreat into the ego, and ideas and theories and beliefs, escaping into yet a third dream. Like Curtis here, on the illusory basis of their ego-bound selves, they are endlessly questioning and challenging these things they exposed themselves to during that initial spiritual discovery - Maharishi was this and that, blah, blah, blah, often simply spouting palaver to salve their foolish ways during their rush to forget themselves at the feet of some teacher or other. They earnestly reject the second dream, for the third; that of earnest confusion. Its a good place to be these days, earnestly confused. People appreciate and respect this type of false searching, this questioning that never turns inward, this dream of false discovery. It makes us appear genuine and heartfelt to others - a nice guy, a sweet woman. Sadly it is neither. So, these terrified fools (sorry but calling it as I see it) retreat into books, theories and thoughts that leave them hopelessly caught in a vise, between whatever dream they falsely followed, and their deep terror of complete dissolution. However, they have learned enough of their rejected path to have gained some insight. This makes them appear wise, and knowledgeable and widely read. The reality is that they are not a whole lot further along in their spiritual path as when they started. Want to know how to see this type of person? They are tied to their past formal path of spiritual discovery. Even though they are convinced they have rejected it, and seen the truth of it for themselves, the confusion around their previous path follows them around like a shadow. Sensing this shadow, they are constantly denigrating it, often by attacking those they perceive as accepting the same spiritual path in a less critical manner. This is all the earnestly confused have - this one insight that the spiritual organization they got into bed with, was simply another dream! They rail at it, and try to wake up others to this fact. They accomplished something! They saw through the tmo dream! AND IT IS IMPERATIVE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians
Ok, that one grabs my attention. Really? Nixon proposed a guaranteed annual income?! Do you think it was merely a political move? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians Who says that people who cannot find work are lazy? There are plenty of well qualified workers who can't find work. There isn't enough work for the working population. How are we subsidizing poverty? You know who the biggest welfare recipients are? The military industrial complex. So let's start there if you want to stop welfare. OTOH, I'm all for stipends for everyone or what was once called a guaranteed annual income proposed by that old commie . Richard M. Nixon. On 12/11/2012 11:20 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: But isn't that what Clinton wanted? Remember the good 'ol days of government prosperity? Raising taxes on the *rich*, back to Clinton levels, will only run the Gubment another 8 days a year. Let's screw everybody, especially the poor. It's time to stop subsidizing poverty. The more the government subsidizes poverty , the more of it we get. I'd like to see those earning below the poverty line paying MORE in taxes than those earning just above that line. If we can discourage people from bad behavior like smoking, drinking ,driving and being comfortable in home and workplace, through higher taxes, then we should do the same for being lazy. Tax the *F* out of those able, but unwilling, to work. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians It should be clear to everyone by now that the Republicans are not going to approve any higher tax rate for the wealthy. As such, they will let the Bush Tax Cut legislation expire. And, we'll be stuck with paying higher income taxes beginning on January 1, 2013. http://news.yahoo.com/voter-disdain-spreads-fiscal-cliff-looms-085417763--finance.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians
Look it up. Nixon also started that commie organization the EPA. And if you are to believe a scene in Frost/Nixon he didn't much care for the rich either. My how times have changed. On 12/11/2012 01:58 PM, Share Long wrote: Ok, that one grabs my attention. Really? Nixon proposed a guaranteed annual income?! Do you think it was merely a political move? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians Who says that people who cannot find work are lazy? There are plenty of well qualified workers who can't find work. There isn't enough work for the working population. How are we subsidizing poverty? You know who the biggest welfare recipients are? The military industrial complex. So let's start there if you want to stop welfare. OTOH, I'm all for stipends for everyone or what was once called a guaranteed annual income proposed by that old commie . Richard M. Nixon. On 12/11/2012 11:20 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: But isn't that what Clinton wanted? Remember the good 'ol days of government prosperity? Raising taxes on the *rich*, back to Clinton levels, will only run the Gubment another 8 days a year. Let's screw everybody, especially the poor. It's time to stop subsidizing poverty. The more the government subsidizes poverty , the more of it we get. I'd like to see those earning below the poverty line paying MORE in taxes than those earning just above that line. If we can discourage people from bad behavior like smoking, drinking ,driving and being comfortable in home and workplace, through higher taxes, then we should do the same for being lazy. Tax the *F* out of those able, but unwilling, to work. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians It should be clear to everyone by now that the Republicans are not going to approve any higher tax rate for the wealthy. As such, they will let the Bush Tax Cut legislation expire. And, we'll be stuck with paying higher income taxes beginning on January 1, 2013. http://news.yahoo.com/voter-disdain-spreads-fiscal-cliff-looms-085417763--finance.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
Definitive, Emily. I would only mention in addition the continuous stream of falsehoods and disingenuities, including the thoroughly insincere ha ha's and dears and smiley faces attached to the mean cracks. There isn't an authentic bone in this woman's body--or at least in the persona she presents to us on FFL. Share Snow Job. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Share - you have missed the point entirely and are again restating your righteousness in assigning those you don't like to a cult.  Clearly you believe this.  I reject this concept completely, just so you know, and want to inform you that your black and white, polarized thinking is not doing you any service.  You are seemingly in unbelievable denial about your own self, despite all this meditation and healing you do, and my opinion is that you subconsciously use it *to* avoid yourself and bolster your false self and attitude of self-righteousness so you never have to get real with anyone. You may take this conclusion from me as what I think sincerely at this point in time.  You routinely exercise a mean streak.  *You* don't have the cojones to admit or defend or discuss anything you post - you simply launch one attack after another.  I'm guessing you do see yourself as a savior, don't you - the butter bouncer in this latest scenario.  So far, we've had psychological rape, vile accusations wts, FFL high school with the penguins, numerous suggestions, put-downs, name-calling, and judgments, your promise to pray for us, your wishing complete healing on us all, your doing everything possible to avoid having a discussion about anything with anybody who might challenge you (which btw is everyone on this forum), and your constant acting out of your vision of yourself as a victim of those you've identified as your enemies.  I'm too exhausted to continue.  If you had any ability to both take it and give it, I might forgive this and commend you on your creative use of the term butter.  Unfortunately, I sincerely believe you actually believe all this and the undertones are intuitively mean.  If I respond with humor, you'll call me creepy right?   Why are you here, Share?  What do you get out of this forum? From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones  Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty about him. Did I miss something important? Anyway, I was glad she posted his info. Yeah, I got triggered by what Rancid Bu er Raunchy said about John. So what?! Oh right, like you all NEVER get triggered?! Or if you do, it's only about Really Important Stuff. Whatever! Emily I was not suggesting that anyone needed HELP from John Newton. I think I used the phrase EXTRA BENEFITS. And I think Raunchy knows exactly what I mean by people in her life in this context. BTW, yes we are moving onto other topics now. Slowly but surely. Kind of like Oozing Butter. Anyway, I aim to avoid using wts. Though even in recent posts there is evidence of more wts thinking. Sigh...a Butter Bouncer's work is never done (-: Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Voter Frustration Over Politicians
Explaining Socialism to a Republican/Libertarian: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/12/11/explaining-socialism-to-a-republican/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Look it up. Nixon also started that commie organization the EPA. And if you are to believe a scene in Frost/Nixon he didn't much care for the rich either. My how times have changed. On 12/11/2012 01:58 PM, Share Long wrote: Ok, that one grabs my attention. Really? Nixon proposed a guaranteed annual income?! Do you think it was merely a political move? From: Bhairitu noozguru@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians Who says that people who cannot find work are lazy? There are plenty of well qualified workers who can't find work. There isn't enough work for the working population. How are we subsidizing poverty? You know who the biggest welfare recipients are? The military industrial complex. So let's start there if you want to stop welfare. OTOH, I'm all for stipends for everyone or what was once called a guaranteed annual income proposed by that old commie . Richard M. Nixon. On 12/11/2012 11:20 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: But isn't that what Clinton wanted? Remember the good 'ol days of government prosperity? Raising taxes on the *rich*, back to Clinton levels, will only run the Gubment another 8 days a year. Let's screw everybody, especially the poor. It's time to stop subsidizing poverty. The more the government subsidizes poverty , the more of it we get. I'd like to see those earning below the poverty line paying MORE in taxes than those earning just above that line. If we can discourage people from bad behavior like smoking, drinking ,driving and being comfortable in home and workplace, through higher taxes, then we should do the same for being lazy. Tax the *F* out of those able, but unwilling, to work. From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Voter Frustration Over Politicians It should be clear to everyone by now that the Republicans are not going to approve any higher tax rate for the wealthy. As such, they will let the Bush Tax Cut legislation expire. And, we'll be stuck with paying higher income taxes beginning on January 1, 2013. http://news.yahoo.com/voter-disdain-spreads-fiscal-cliff-looms-085417763--finance.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
It's always a good day when I learn something new. Today I learned something new about zebras, thanks Ann Twinkies, thanks Turq and Richard M. Nixon, thanks Bhairitu I think in the put down dept I've merely kept up with you and some unnamed others. OTOH there are many on FFL whose posts I do enjoy. And I have noticed that most men here are understanding and or forgiving. That means a lot to me. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones Dear Share - you have missed the point entirely and are again restating your righteousness in assigning those you don't like to a cult. Clearly you believe this. I reject this concept completely, just so you know, and want to inform you that your black and white, polarized thinking is not doing you any service. You are seemingly in unbelievable denial about your own self, despite all this meditation and healing you do, and my opinion is that you subconsciously use it *to* avoid yourself and bolster your false self and attitude of self-righteousness so you never have to get real with anyone. You may take this conclusion from me as what I think sincerely at this point in time. You routinely exercise a mean streak. *You* don't have the cojones to admit or defend or discuss anything you post - you simply launch one attack after another. I'm guessing you do see yourself as a savior, don't you - the butter bouncer in this latest scenario. So far, we've had psychological rape, vile accusations wts, FFL high school with the penguins, numerous suggestions, put-downs, name-calling, and judgments, your promise to pray for us, your wishing complete healing on us all, your doing everything possible to avoid having a discussion about anything with anybody who might challenge you (which btw is everyone on this forum), and your constant acting out of your vision of yourself as a victim of those you've identified as your enemies. I'm too exhausted to continue. If you had any ability to both take it and give it, I might forgive this and commend you on your creative use of the term butter. Unfortunately, I sincerely believe you actually believe all this and the undertones are intuitively mean. If I respond with humor, you'll call me creepy right? Why are you here, Share? What do you get out of this forum? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty about him. Did I miss something important? Anyway, I was glad she posted his info. Yeah, I got triggered by what Rancid Bu er Raunchy said about John. So what?! Oh right, like you all NEVER get triggered?! Or if you do, it's only about Really Important Stuff. Whatever! Emily I was not suggesting that anyone needed HELP from John Newton. I think I used the phrase EXTRA BENEFITS. And I think Raunchy knows exactly what I mean by people in her life in this context. BTW, yes we are moving onto other topics now. Slowly but surely. Kind of like Oozing Butter. Anyway, I aim to avoid using wts. Though even in recent posts there is evidence of more wts thinking. Sigh...a Butter Bouncer's work is never done (-:
Re: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
Correction: and the undertones are intentionally mean Share, I wish you success on your healing journey, whatever that looks like for you and however you define success. You may invoke my name at any time for any reason, but I will no longer move to defend myself as an individual. The high winds and heavy rains I was in this morning while walking my dog on the beach have suddenly cleansed the area of my mind I was dedicating to you. Sayonara, sweet pea. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones Dear Share - you have missed the point entirely and are again restating your righteousness in assigning those you don't like to a cult. Clearly you believe this. I reject this concept completely, just so you know, and want to inform you that your black and white, polarized thinking is not doing you any service. You are seemingly in unbelievable denial about your own self, despite all this meditation and healing you do, and my opinion is that you subconsciously use it *to* avoid yourself and bolster your false self and attitude of self-righteousness so you never have to get real with anyone. You may take this conclusion from me as what I think sincerely at this point in time. You routinely exercise a mean streak. *You* don't have the cojones to admit or defend or discuss anything you post - you simply launch one attack after another. I'm guessing you do see yourself as a savior, don't you - the butter bouncer in this latest scenario. So far, we've had psychological rape, vile accusations wts, FFL high school with the penguins, numerous suggestions, put-downs, name-calling, and judgments, your promise to pray for us, your wishing complete healing on us all, your doing everything possible to avoid having a discussion about anything with anybody who might challenge you (which btw is everyone on this forum), and your constant acting out of your vision of yourself as a victim of those you've identified as your enemies. I'm too exhausted to continue. If you had any ability to both take it and give it, I might forgive this and commend you on your creative use of the term butter. Unfortunately, I sincerely believe you actually believe all this and the undertones are intuitively mean. If I respond with humor, you'll call me creepy right? Why are you here, Share? What do you get out of this forum? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty about him. Did I miss something important? Anyway, I was glad she posted his info. Yeah, I got triggered by what Rancid Bu er Raunchy said about John. So what?! Oh right, like you all NEVER get triggered?! Or if you do, it's only about Really Important Stuff. Whatever! Emily I was not suggesting that anyone needed HELP from John Newton. I think I used the phrase EXTRA BENEFITS. And I think Raunchy knows exactly what I mean by people in her life in this context. BTW, yes we are moving onto other topics now. Slowly but surely. Kind of like Oozing Butter. Anyway, I aim to avoid using wts. Though even in recent posts there is evidence of more wts thinking. Sigh...a Butter Bouncer's work is never done (-:
Re: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
Vios con Dios muchacha EmilyBoo From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones Correction: and the undertones are intentionally mean Share, I wish you success on your healing journey, whatever that looks like for you and however you define success. You may invoke my name at any time for any reason, but I will no longer move to defend myself as an individual. The high winds and heavy rains I was in this morning while walking my dog on the beach have suddenly cleansed the area of my mind I was dedicating to you. Sayonara, sweet pea. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones Dear Share - you have missed the point entirely and are again restating your righteousness in assigning those you don't like to a cult. Clearly you believe this. I reject this concept completely, just so you know, and want to inform you that your black and white, polarized thinking is not doing you any service. You are seemingly in unbelievable denial about your own self, despite all this meditation and healing you do, and my opinion is that you subconsciously use it *to* avoid yourself and bolster your false self and attitude of self-righteousness so you never have to get real with anyone. You may take this conclusion from me as what I think sincerely at this point in time. You routinely exercise a mean streak. *You* don't have the cojones to admit or defend or discuss anything you post - you simply launch one attack after another. I'm guessing you do see yourself as a savior, don't you - the butter bouncer in this latest scenario. So far, we've had psychological rape, vile accusations wts, FFL high school with the penguins, numerous suggestions, put-downs, name-calling, and judgments, your promise to pray for us, your wishing complete healing on us all, your doing everything possible to avoid having a discussion about anything with anybody who might challenge you (which btw is everyone on this forum), and your constant acting out of your vision of yourself as a victim of those you've identified as your enemies. I'm too exhausted to continue. If you had any ability to both take it and give it, I might forgive this and commend you on your creative use of the term butter. Unfortunately, I sincerely believe you actually believe all this and the undertones are intuitively mean. If I respond with humor, you'll call me creepy right? Why are you here, Share? What do you get out of this forum? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty about him. Did I miss something important? Anyway, I was glad she posted his info. Yeah, I got triggered by what Rancid Bu er Raunchy said about John. So what?! Oh right, like you all NEVER get triggered?! Or if you do, it's only about Really Important Stuff. Whatever! Emily I was not suggesting that anyone needed HELP from John Newton. I think I used the phrase EXTRA BENEFITS. And I think Raunchy knows exactly what I mean by people in her life in this context. BTW, yes we are moving onto other topics now. Slowly but surely. Kind of like Oozing Butter. Anyway, I aim to avoid using wts. Though even in recent posts there is evidence of more wts thinking. Sigh...a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
Share is struggling to survive - there are lot of threats to her well being - people, online cults, groups wanting to prey, pile on an pure, gullible, innocent woman like her. She's the victim here. She has to be strong, no can be trusted else she will be exposed, she will be hurt, harmed - she has put up a brave face, come up with strong, fancy, clever pushbacks, putdowns, comebacks against these devious, cunning people (however lame and stupid they may come across to normal people like us). I have lived with a person with the same psychological profile. No matter how much I said I loved this person, that I would never harm, that I would always protect - it was not enough, it was ultimately useless, I was totally defeated in my intentions - I had to ultimately choose my sanity. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:24 PM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Definitive, Emily. I would only mention in addition the continuous stream of falsehoods and disingenuities, including the thoroughly insincere ha ha's and dears and smiley faces attached to the mean cracks. There isn't an authentic bone in this woman's body--or at least in the persona she presents to us on FFL. Share Snow Job. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Dear Share - you have missed the point entirely and are again restating your righteousness in assigning those you don't like to a cult.  Clearly you believe this.  I reject this concept completely, just so you know, and want to inform you that your black and white, polarized thinking is not doing you any service.  You are seemingly in unbelievable denial about your own self, despite all this meditation and healing you do, and my opinion is that you subconsciously use it *to* avoid yourself and bolster your false self and attitude of self-righteousness so you never have to get real with anyone. You may take this conclusion from me as what I think sincerely at this point in time.  You routinely exercise a mean streak.  *You* don't have the cojones to admit or defend or discuss anything you post - you simply launch one attack after another.  I'm guessing you do see yourself as a savior, don't you - the butter bouncer in this latest scenario.  So far, we've had psychological rape, vile accusations wts, FFL high school with the penguins, numerous suggestions, put-downs, name-calling, and judgments, your promise to pray for us, your wishing complete healing on us all, your doing everything possible to avoid having a discussion about anything with anybody who might challenge you (which btw is everyone on this forum), and your constant acting out of your vision of yourself as a victim of those you've identified as your enemies.  I'm too exhausted to continue.  If you had any ability to both take it and give it, I might forgive this and commend you on your creative use of the term butter.  Unfortunately, I sincerely believe you actually believe all this and the undertones are intuitively mean.  If I respond with humor, you'll call me creepy right?   Why are you here, Share?  What do you get out of this forum? From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones  Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty about him. Did I miss something important? Anyway, I was glad she posted his info. Yeah, I got triggered by what Rancid Bu er Raunchy said about John. So what?! Oh right, like you all NEVER get triggered?! Or if you do, it's only about Really Important Stuff. Whatever! Emily I was not suggesting that anyone needed HELP
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
http://youtu.be/IHL-CeSBtBk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Correction:  and the undertones are intentionally mean Share, I wish you success on your healing journey, whatever that looks like for you and however you define success.  You may invoke my name at any time for any reason, but I will no longer move to defend myself as an individual.  The high winds and heavy rains I was in this morning while walking my dog on the beach have suddenly cleansed the area of my mind I was dedicating to you.  Sayonara, sweet pea.  From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones Dear Share - you have missed the point entirely and are again restating your righteousness in assigning those you don't like to a cult.  Clearly you believe this.  I reject this concept completely, just so you know, and want to inform you that your black and white, polarized thinking is not doing you any service.  You are seemingly in unbelievable denial about your own self, despite all this meditation and healing you do, and my opinion is that you subconsciously use it *to* avoid yourself and bolster your false self and attitude of self-righteousness so you never have to get real with anyone. You may take this conclusion from me as what I think sincerely at this point in time.  You routinely exercise a mean streak.  *You* don't have the cojones to admit or defend or discuss anything you post - you simply launch one attack after another.  I'm guessing you do see yourself as a savior, don't you - the butter bouncer in this latest scenario.  So far, we've had psychological rape, vile accusations wts, FFL high school with the penguins, numerous suggestions, put-downs, name-calling, and judgments, your promise to pray for us, your wishing complete healing on us all, your doing everything possible to avoid having a discussion about anything with anybody who might challenge you (which btw is everyone on this forum), and your constant acting out of your vision of yourself as a victim of those you've identified as your enemies.  I'm too exhausted to continue.  If you had any ability to both take it and give it, I might forgive this and commend you on your creative use of the term butter.  Unfortunately, I sincerely believe you actually believe all this and the undertones are intuitively mean.  If I respond with humor, you'll call me creepy right?   Why are you here, Share?  What do you get out of this forum? From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones  Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty about him. Did I miss something important? Anyway, I was glad she posted his info. Yeah, I got triggered by what Rancid Bu er Raunchy said about John. So what?! Oh right, like you all NEVER get triggered?! Or if you do, it's only about Really Important Stuff. Whatever! Emily I was not suggesting that anyone needed HELP from John Newton. I think I used the phrase EXTRA BENEFITS. And I think Raunchy knows exactly what I mean by people in her life in this context. BTW, yes we are moving onto other topics now. Slowly but surely. Kind of like Oozing Butter. Anyway, I aim to avoid using wts. Though even in recent posts there is evidence of more wts thinking. Sigh...a Butter Bouncer's work is never done (-: Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alright! Course food accompainment!
Yes. Sit and be still. Close your eyes. Open them. Close your eyes. Now, did you think anything? Yes? Okay, now relax and close your eyes and think the Dom. Think the Dom without trying and do not attach to the mantra, just think it. Okay? Open your eyes. Now, this glass, in front of you, taste. Did you feel the bubbly experience? Did it make you feel bissful? Yes? Okay, now close your eyes and drink the rest. Good girl. Open your eyes. Here, have some more. .. . . Bubbly bliss from the bottle, so filled with bubbles you will hear Maharishi say, Feel the bliss, hmm? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Wow Obba. Â Dom and David Lynch! Â Amazing. Â Is the same one? Â I would definitely have to be drinking Dom to listen for long to Mr. Lynch. Â From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 5:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Alright! Course food accompainment! Â http://www.domperignon.com/image/laevent-firstlook/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earnest Confusion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Someone once said that if a person is not serious about a spiritual journey, better they do not start at all. Several people here seem to have gotten in over their heads. I'll explain what I mean. Almost any skill is learned, by absorbing it, and practicing it, for proficiency. Fly a plane, drive a car, play music, read a book, become an architect, etc. The relationship of learner to object changes, only as knowledge of the object deepens. There is an assumed 'I', in order to make learning possible. The goal of the spiritual journey is to burn down any previous identity, and transcend completely, in order to make genuine discoveries. Only then do we begin to see the world as it is, watching its glorious and unending unfolding. But, it means confronting deep stories, beliefs, and the emotions, primarily fear, that drive them. Typically, the journey begins with following somebody, Buddha, Jesus (vs. Christ), Mohammed, Shiva, etc., within the context of previous followers; go to a Buddhist temple, read the bible, start a meditation program. Often times, what these followers will do, is substitute the issues of their life, for the glory and promise they feel as new followers of whatever vehicle they have chosen for their spiritual journey. In other words, the previous dream is replaced, or enhanced, by the current dream, the second dream. For many of us, the initial transcending brought about by the TM technique, seems, and seemed, like a better dream. Get all cozy with Vedic Knowledge-lite, sit in front of a guru, put on the trappings of the organization pushing the technique, and dream, dream, dream on. Inevitably, if a person continues the spiritual journey, they are faced with the extinction of the path and the organization that brought them this far. This will mean they cannot return to the dream that set then on their path, nor can they continue refuge in a religion or spiritual organization. They are on their own. HOLY SHIT! Losing one's contextual identity can be a scary thing. Cutting oneself out like a paper doll, to stand alone, then reducing that to ashes, terrifies most people more than physical death does. The response for many is to retreat into the ego, and ideas and theories and beliefs, escaping into yet a third dream. Like Curtis here, on the illusory basis of their ego-bound selves, they are endlessly questioning and challenging these things they exposed themselves to during that initial spiritual discovery - Maharishi was this and that, blah, blah, blah, often simply spouting palaver to salve their foolish ways during their rush to forget themselves at the feet of some teacher or other. They earnestly reject the second dream, for the third; that of earnest confusion. Its a good place to be these days, earnestly confused. People appreciate and respect this type of false searching, this questioning that never turns inward, this dream of false discovery. It makes us appear genuine and heartfelt to others - a nice guy, a sweet woman. Sadly it is neither. So, these terrified fools (sorry but calling it as I see it) retreat into books, theories and thoughts that leave them hopelessly caught in a vise, between whatever dream they falsely followed, and their deep terror of complete dissolution. However, they have learned enough of their rejected path to have gained some insight. This makes them appear wise, and knowledgeable and widely read. The reality is that they are not a whole lot further along in their spiritual path as when they started. Want to know how to see this type of person? They are tied to their past formal path of spiritual discovery. Even though they are convinced they have rejected it, and seen the truth of it for themselves, the confusion around their previous path follows them around like a shadow. Sensing this shadow, they are constantly denigrating it, often by attacking those they perceive as accepting the same spiritual path in a less critical manner. This is all the earnestly confused have - this one insight that the spiritual organization they got into bed with, was simply another dream! They rail at it, and try to wake up others to this fact. They accomplished something! They saw through the tmo dream! AND IT IS IMPERATIVE that they convince others of this. However, since they are stunted on their way to spiritual freedom, and by definition, continuing to dream themselves, they have nothing to offer those who they are trying to wake up; the blinders leading the blind. And others smell this on them. These third dreamers become like politicians, telling others the endless errors
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
Tell ya what, let's make life easier for her. Let's protect her by not paying any attention to her and not interacting with her in any way. Then she'll have no reason to feel threatened, poor dear. She can just do her little act all by herself without worrying that any reality is going to be brought to her attention. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Share is struggling to survive - there are lot of threats to her well being - people, online cults, groups wanting to prey, pile on an pure, gullible, innocent woman like her. She's the victim here. She has to be strong, no can be trusted else she will be exposed, she will be hurt, harmed - she has put up a brave face, come up with strong, fancy, clever pushbacks, putdowns, comebacks against these devious, cunning people (however lame and stupid they may come across to normal people like us). I have lived with a person with the same psychological profile. No matter how much I said I loved this person, that I would never harm, that I would always protect - it was not enough, it was ultimately useless, I was totally defeated in my intentions - I had to ultimately choose my sanity. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:24 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Definitive, Emily. I would only mention in addition the continuous stream of falsehoods and disingenuities, including the thoroughly insincere ha ha's and dears and smiley faces attached to the mean cracks. There isn't an authentic bone in this woman's body--or at least in the persona she presents to us on FFL. Share Snow Job. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share - you have missed the point entirely and are again restating your righteousness in assigning those you don't like to a cult. à Clearly you believe this. à I reject this concept completely, just so you know, and want to inform you that your black and white, polarized thinking is not doing you any service. à You are seemingly in unbelievable denial about your own self, despite all this meditation and healing you do, and my opinion is that you subconsciously use it *to* avoid yourself and bolster your false self and attitude of self-righteousness so you never have to get real with anyone. You may take this conclusion from me as what I think sincerely at this point in time. à You routinely exercise a mean streak. à *You* don't have the cojones to admit or defend or discuss anything you post - you simply launch one attack after another. à I'm guessing you do see yourself as a savior, don't you - the butter bouncer in this latest scenario. à So far, we've had psychological rape, vile accusations wts, FFL high school with the penguins, numerous suggestions, put-downs, name-calling, and judgments, your promise to pray for us, your wishing complete healing on us all, your doing everything possible to avoid having a discussion about anything with anybody who might challenge you (which btw is everyone on this forum), and your constant acting out of your vision of yourself as a victim of those you've identified as your enemies. à I'm too exhausted to continue. à If you had any ability to both take it and give it, I might forgive this and commend you on your creative use of the term butter. à Unfortunately, I sincerely believe you actually believe all this and the undertones are intuitively mean. à If I respond with humor, you'll call me creepy right? à à Why are you here, Share? à What do you get out of this forum?à From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones à Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think?à But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi.à What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
Good idea Judy - that was my intention behind this post anyway, I have stopped interacting with her. Even when I did - it was all inauthentic, meaningless conversation anyway. Emily asked Share what she was looking for at FFL - like you said she just needs to be protected, comforted, soothed so she can successfully navigate her perilous daily existence. I'm sure she has lot of people her who do that to her - Steve, LG, Xeno and others. Having said that, if needed one may have to post from time to time to defend against her falsehoods - much like how you handle Barry. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:29 PM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Tell ya what, let's make life easier for her. Let's protect her by not paying any attention to her and not interacting with her in any way. Then she'll have no reason to feel threatened, poor dear. She can just do her little act all by herself without worrying that any reality is going to be brought to her attention. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Share is struggling to survive - there are lot of threats to her well being - people, online cults, groups wanting to prey, pile on an pure, gullible, innocent woman like her. She's the victim here. She has to be strong, no can be trusted else she will be exposed, she will be hurt, harmed - she has put up a brave face, come up with strong, fancy, clever pushbacks, putdowns, comebacks against these devious, cunning people (however lame and stupid they may come across to normal people like us). I have lived with a person with the same psychological profile. No matter how much I said I loved this person, that I would never harm, that I would always protect - it was not enough, it was ultimately useless, I was totally defeated in my intentions - I had to ultimately choose my sanity. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:24 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Definitive, Emily. I would only mention in addition the continuous stream of falsehoods and disingenuities, including the thoroughly insincere ha ha's and dears and smiley faces attached to the mean cracks. There isn't an authentic bone in this woman's body--or at least in the persona she presents to us on FFL. Share Snow Job.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alright! Course food accompainment!
Yes ma'm. I feel itI do, I do...between the Dom and the Divorce Dance...it's all good, is it not? I must go out to run and play, and it is so nice to hear from you during this fabulous holiday season. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alright! Course food accompainment! Yes. Sit and be still. Close your eyes. Open them. Close your eyes. Now, did you think anything? Yes? Okay, now relax and close your eyes and think the Dom. Think the Dom without trying and do not attach to the mantra, just think it. Okay? Open your eyes. Now, this glass, in front of you, taste. Did you feel the bubbly experience? Did it make you feel bissful? Yes? Okay, now close your eyes and drink the rest. Good girl. Open your eyes. Here, have some more. .. . . Bubbly bliss from the bottle, so filled with bubbles you will hear Maharishi say, Feel the bliss, hmm? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Wow Obba. Â Dom and David Lynch! Â Amazing. Â Is the same one? Â I would definitely have to be drinking Dom to listen for long to Mr. Lynch. Â From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 5:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Alright! Course food accompainment! Â http://www.domperignon.com/image/laevent-firstlook/
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Tell ya what, let's make life easier for her. Let's protect her by not paying any attention to her and not interacting with her in any way. Then she'll have no reason to feel threatened, poor dear. She can just do her little act all by herself without worrying that any reality is going to be brought to her attention. Bye Bye Bubble Girl. http://www.maniacworld.com/bubble_girl.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Share is struggling to survive - there are lot of threats to her well being - people, online cults, groups wanting to prey, pile on an pure, gullible, innocent woman like her. She's the victim here. She has to be strong, no can be trusted else she will be exposed, she will be hurt, harmed - she has put up a brave face, come up with strong, fancy, clever pushbacks, putdowns, comebacks against these devious, cunning people (however lame and stupid they may come across to normal people like us). I have lived with a person with the same psychological profile. No matter how much I said I loved this person, that I would never harm, that I would always protect - it was not enough, it was ultimately useless, I was totally defeated in my intentions - I had to ultimately choose my sanity. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:24 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: ** Definitive, Emily. I would only mention in addition the continuous stream of falsehoods and disingenuities, including the thoroughly insincere ha ha's and dears and smiley faces attached to the mean cracks. There isn't an authentic bone in this woman's body--or at least in the persona she presents to us on FFL. Share Snow Job. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share - you have missed the point entirely and are again restating your righteousness in assigning those you don't like to a cult. à Clearly you believe this. à I reject this concept completely, just so you know, and want to inform you that your black and white, polarized thinking is not doing you any service. à You are seemingly in unbelievable denial about your own self, despite all this meditation and healing you do, and my opinion is that you subconsciously use it *to* avoid yourself and bolster your false self and attitude of self-righteousness so you never have to get real with anyone. You may take this conclusion from me as what I think sincerely at this point in time. à You routinely exercise a mean streak. à *You* don't have the cojones to admit or defend or discuss anything you post - you simply launch one attack after another. à I'm guessing you do see yourself as a savior, don't you - the butter bouncer in this latest scenario. à So far, we've had psychological rape, vile accusations wts, FFL high school with the penguins, numerous suggestions, put-downs, name-calling, and judgments, your promise to pray for us, your wishing complete healing on us all, your doing everything possible to avoid having a discussion about anything with anybody who might challenge you (which btw is everyone on this forum), and your constant acting out of your vision of yourself as a victim of those you've identified as your enemies. à I'm too exhausted to continue. à If you had any ability to both take it and give it, I might forgive this and commend you on your creative use of the term butter. à Unfortunately, I sincerely believe you actually believe all this and the undertones are intuitively mean. à If I respond with humor, you'll call me creepy right? à à Why are you here, Share? à What do you get out of this forum?à From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones à Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Correction:  and the undertones are intentionally mean Share, I wish you success on your healing journey, whatever that looks like for you and however you define success.  You may invoke my name at any time for any reason, but I will no longer move to defend myself as an individual.  The high winds and heavy rains I was in this morning while walking my dog on the beach have suddenly cleansed the area of my mind I was dedicating to you.  Sayonara, sweet pea.  That last sentence proves Christmas has it origin in something real. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones Dear Share - you have missed the point entirely and are again restating your righteousness in assigning those you don't like to a cult.  Clearly you believe this.  I reject this concept completely, just so you know, and want to inform you that your black and white, polarized thinking is not doing you any service.  You are seemingly in unbelievable denial about your own self, despite all this meditation and healing you do, and my opinion is that you subconsciously use it *to* avoid yourself and bolster your false self and attitude of self-righteousness so you never have to get real with anyone. You may take this conclusion from me as what I think sincerely at this point in time.  You routinely exercise a mean streak.  *You* don't have the cojones to admit or defend or discuss anything you post - you simply launch one attack after another.  I'm guessing you do see yourself as a savior, don't you - the butter bouncer in this latest scenario.  So far, we've had psychological rape, vile accusations wts, FFL high school with the penguins, numerous suggestions, put-downs, name-calling, and judgments, your promise to pray for us, your wishing complete healing on us all, your doing everything possible to avoid having a discussion about anything with anybody who might challenge you (which btw is everyone on this forum), and your constant acting out of your vision of yourself as a victim of those you've identified as your enemies.  I'm too exhausted to continue.  If you had any ability to both take it and give it, I might forgive this and commend you on your creative use of the term butter.  Unfortunately, I sincerely believe you actually believe all this and the undertones are intuitively mean.  If I respond with humor, you'll call me creepy right?   Why are you here, Share?  What do you get out of this forum? From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones  Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty about him. Did I miss something important? Anyway, I was glad she posted his info. Yeah, I got triggered by what Rancid Bu er Raunchy said about John. So what?! Oh right, like you all NEVER get triggered?! Or if you do, it's only about Really Important Stuff. Whatever! Emily I was not suggesting that anyone needed HELP from John Newton. I think I used the phrase EXTRA BENEFITS. And I think Raunchy knows exactly what I mean by people in her life in this context. BTW, yes we are moving onto other topics now. Slowly but surely. Kind of like Oozing Butter. Anyway, I aim to avoid using wts. Though even in recent posts there is evidence of more wts thinking. Sigh...a Butter
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alright! Course food accompainment!
Oh man! This is just too funny From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alright! Course food accompainment! Yes. Sit and be still. Close your eyes. Open them. Close your eyes. Now, did you think anything? Yes? Okay, now relax and close your eyes and think the Dom. Think the Dom without trying and do not attach to the mantra, just think it. Okay? Open your eyes. Now, this glass, in front of you, taste. Did you feel the bubbly experience? Did it make you feel bissful? Yes? Okay, now close your eyes and drink the rest. Good girl. Open your eyes. Here, have some more. .. . . Bubbly bliss from the bottle, so filled with bubbles you will hear Maharishi say, Feel the bliss, hmm? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Wow Obba. Â Dom and David Lynch! Â Amazing. Â Is the same one? Â I would definitely have to be drinking Dom to listen for long to Mr. Lynch. Â From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 5:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Alright! Course food accompainment! Â http://www.domperignon.com/image/laevent-firstlook/
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Dec 08 00:00:00 2012 End Date (UTC): Sat Dec 15 00:00:00 2012 684 messages as of (UTC) Tue Dec 11 23:52:58 2012 49 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com 47 authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com 46 Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com 44 Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com 42 Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com 39 Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 36 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 35 awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com 34 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 31 khazana108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 29 doctordumb...@rocketmail.com, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. 27 Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 24 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com 23 seventhray1 lurkernomore20002...@yahoo.com 22 salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com 16 laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 16 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 14 Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us 13 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 12 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 10 wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com 10 card cardemais...@yahoo.com 10 John jr_...@yahoo.com 9 emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com 8 seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com 8 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com 7 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com 5 feste37 fest...@yahoo.com 3 obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com 2 mjackson74 mjackso...@yahoo.com 2 merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de 2 eustace10679 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 2 Susan waybac...@yahoo.com 1 sri...@ymail.com, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. 1 seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com 1 okpeachman2000 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 khazana108 uz...@yahoo.com 1 Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 1 Bill Coop williamgc...@gmail.com 1 emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com Posters: 40 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: http://youtu.be/IHL-CeSBtBk Inspired. This drama [disagreement on FFL] is like a poem--you have to dig deep and figure out where the meaning is. You are right there, where it is all happening, raunchy. This choice of video proves this. And I am telling you nothing. For me, at this point, this is the perfect response. If the other side can't come up with anything better--or equal to this--they are defeated. That's just the way it goes. How much life jumps out at you. That's what's left after Christmas is celebrated as a memory--Christ is not there to blow out his zero candles. The joy sometimes comes from where it hurts most. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Correction:  and the undertones are intentionally mean Share, I wish you success on your healing journey, whatever that looks like for you and however you define success.  You may invoke my name at any time for any reason, but I will no longer move to defend myself as an individual.  The high winds and heavy rains I was in this morning while walking my dog on the beach have suddenly cleansed the area of my mind I was dedicating to you.  Sayonara, sweet pea.  From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones Dear Share - you have missed the point entirely and are again restating your righteousness in assigning those you don't like to a cult.  Clearly you believe this.  I reject this concept completely, just so you know, and want to inform you that your black and white, polarized thinking is not doing you any service.  You are seemingly in unbelievable denial about your own self, despite all this meditation and healing you do, and my opinion is that you subconsciously use it *to* avoid yourself and bolster your false self and attitude of self-righteousness so you never have to get real with anyone. You may take this conclusion from me as what I think sincerely at this point in time.  You routinely exercise a mean streak.  *You* don't have the cojones to admit or defend or discuss anything you post - you simply launch one attack after another.  I'm guessing you do see yourself as a savior, don't you - the butter bouncer in this latest scenario.  So far, we've had psychological rape, vile accusations wts, FFL high school with the penguins, numerous suggestions, put-downs, name-calling, and judgments, your promise to pray for us, your wishing complete healing on us all, your doing everything possible to avoid having a discussion about anything with anybody who might challenge you (which btw is everyone on this forum), and your constant acting out of your vision of yourself as a victim of those you've identified as your enemies.  I'm too exhausted to continue.  If you had any ability to both take it and give it, I might forgive this and commend you on your creative use of the term butter.  Unfortunately, I sincerely believe you actually believe all this and the undertones are intuitively mean.  If I respond with humor, you'll call me creepy right?   Why are you here, Share?  What do you get out of this forum? From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones  Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been slathered enough don't you think? But to set the record straight he's correct about why I didn't reply to Ravi. What Ravi said about John Newton is not what I would call a conversational opener if you know what I mean. As for Ann, I think she initially posted John's photo and then a big excerpt from his website. But I don't remember that she said anything nasty
[FairfieldLife] Tax the Rich fairy tale
Ed Asner narrates: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6ZsXrzF8Cc Maybe it will help some of the children of the corn Republicans on FFL. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: That last sentence proves Christmas has it origin in something real. Yo, I got yer Christmas origin right here: http://e-sheep.sansara.net.ua/www.e-sheep.com/Saturnalia/ Very good. I like it. When Christ ain't there, then this becomes as real as anything--including his unfucked up conception--and birth. My reference to Christmas and Emily's sweet pea ending was impossible to understand--Aristotle would not get what Emily was doing there in her sign-off to her friend. God had to come into his creation for this kind of interpersonal irony to be possible. Ergo, Christmas. But this origin [your video], it makes it for me--as what comes in when Christmas can't--except in some sense of memory and sentimentality--remain potent supernaturally. Nor defend itself inside the truth of its origin.
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Vios con Dios muchacha EmilyBoo What a very nice sentiment to express
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earnest Confusion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: ME: I already responded to Dr Dumb Ass's snipped comments. I will accept Raunchy's as a writing prompt. RD: I like what you say here, Doc. Just to guild your lily a little, I'd say that irreverence is a performance art of disaffected seekers. They indulge in tipping sacred cows hoping people will react in horror. ME: Let me stop you there. Can you name a single person who could be expected to react in horror from a satiric piece on Christianity here? Name one pearl-clutcher, to use you apt image. A single person whose identification with the ideas contained in the myths of Christianity, is so complete that anything I wrote could be expected to react in the way your are trying to project here. One. I argue that mine is exactly the opposite motivation than the one you propose here. I wrote it for people who share my sense of humor, I am an entertainer. I would never post it on a board of Christians because I do not have the motivation you ascribe to me. And at this point if anyone is offended by my perspective on Maharishi, after years of full disclosure of my POV, shame on them for reading it. They are going way out of their way for their offended buzz. An example of why I wrote it was Emily's response. That made me very happy and fulfilled my intentions for posting it. RD: It's rather juvenile but they do it just to show how hip, they are and how hip you're not because they think you haven't rejected the beliefs that they have. ME: Do you believe that Jesus died for your sins and that maintaining this believe will somehow alter your disposition in the afterlife? Can you name one person who has that belief here that I could impose my hipness on by making a satire about Christianity? Since we all dissected Judith's book in detail here I could not reasonably expect my mention of the reality of Maharishi's hidden life would do more than elicit a ho hum from this jaded crew. You are imagining something to shame me for that doesn't even make sense. Name one belief concerning the Jesus myth that I have rejected and you have not. The unique divinity of Christ? His role as your personal savior through the mechanism of belief? His role as the fulfillment of the prophesies of the Old Testament? That he was required by God to suffer for our sins? You have to dismiss all the details of Christian theology to get to something we might disagree on, perhaps your conjectures about his state of mind. Maybe you think he was an enlightened guy and I don't. But we agree on a hundred things about the story to find the one we do not agree on. RD: Even today, Barry thought it would be fun to post humorously irreverent road signs by MUM to see who smiled and see who didn't smile. I suspect he's more interested in pissing people off than in delighting them. I go for the latter. ME: I draw your attention to this post as counter evidence for that claim. RD: Funny thing is, after awhile all the TMO, TM and Maharishi bashing, pissing on baby Jesus and exhibitionistic waggling of dicks gets to be so ho-hum that one hardly notices cries for attention fading into the distance. Sadly, when irreverent performance artists, shock jocks, don't get the negative reaction they hoped, they're just as happy to get applause for taking a public dump from people who don't know the difference between art and schlock. ME: I saw a great Curb Your Enthusiasm where Larry David was being subjected to his wife's family Christmas traditions. Alone in the kitchen Larry passes the time eating a cookie he found in a manger scene. To his chagrin and the horror of his in-laws, it turned out that he had eaten the baby Jesus cookie in an all cookie manger scene. Opening his mouth only to switch feet, he tried to pacify them all as they flocked around to shame him by saying I thought it was a monkey cookie. They were not pacified. I share my sense of irreverent humor with Larry, and I wonder if you would project all these negative qualities on his intentions as you have on mine. A more broad minded perspective might allow that when it comes to humor, it is a personal thing and not feel the need to demonize someone making different choices than you. RD Irreverent art is really old school. Back in the day of the Dadaists: Marcel Duchamp penciled a mustache and goatee on a print of Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa and inscribed the work L.H.O.O.Q. Spelled out in French these letters form a risqué pun: Elle a chaud au cul, or She has hot pants Francis Picabia, once tacked a stuffed monkey to a board and called it a portrait of Cézanne... Schoenberg's music was atonal, Mal-larmé's poems scrambled syntax and scattered words across the page and Picasso's Cubism
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Vios con Dios muchacha EmilyBoo What a very nice sentiment to express First person ontological SATORI! Now I know it is going to be a *Merry* Christmas. This one statement trumped Divorce Dance--and even Alex's post. Sexy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
Is this woman, superwoman? From all the fantastic abilities which are attributed to her, she must be. I mean Judy saves one of her few remaining posts to zing her. Ravi devotes a good part his posts to comment about her. She certainly has gotten Emily's attention. I mean here she arrives from Batgap with her bonnet and suitcase and soon after the place goes gaga about her. I don't know if this is exactly appropiate, but I always liked it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04aLUkVJAAw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04aLUkVJAAw --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Share is struggling to survive - there are lot of threats to her well being - people, online cults, groups wanting to prey, pile on an pure, gullible, innocent woman like her. She's the victim here. She has to be strong, no can be trusted else she will be exposed, she will be hurt, harmed - she has put up a brave face, come up with strong, fancy, clever pushbacks, putdowns, comebacks against these devious, cunning people (however lame and stupid they may come across to normal people like us). I have lived with a person with the same psychological profile. No matter how much I said I loved this person, that I would never harm, that I would always protect - it was not enough, it was ultimately useless, I was totally defeated in my intentions - I had to ultimately choose my sanity. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:24 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** Definitive, Emily. I would only mention in addition the continuous stream of falsehoods and disingenuities, including the thoroughly insincere ha ha's and dears and smiley faces attached to the mean cracks. There isn't an authentic bone in this woman's body--or at least in the persona she presents to us on FFL. Share Snow Job. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Dear Share - you have missed the point entirely and are again restating your righteousness in assigning those you don't like to a cult. à Clearly you believe this. à I reject this concept completely, just so you know, and want to inform you that your black and white, polarized thinking is not doing you any service. à You are seemingly in unbelievable denial about your own self, despite all this meditation and healing you do, and my opinion is that you subconsciously use it *to* avoid yourself and bolster your false self and attitude of self-righteousness so you never have to get real with anyone. You may take this conclusion from me as what I think sincerely at this point in time. à You routinely exercise a mean streak. à *You* don't have the cojones to admit or defend or discuss anything you post - you simply launch one attack after another. à I'm guessing you do see yourself as a savior, don't you - the butter bouncer in this latest scenario. à So far, we've had psychological rape, vile accusations wts, FFL high school with the penguins, numerous suggestions, put-downs, name-calling, and judgments, your promise to pray for us, your wishing complete healing on us all, your doing everything possible to avoid having a discussion about anything with anybody who might challenge you (which btw is everyone on this forum), and your constant acting out of your vision of yourself as a victim of those you've identified as your enemies. à I'm too exhausted to continue. à If you had any ability to both take it and give it, I might forgive this and commend you on your creative use of the term butter. à Unfortunately, I sincerely believe you actually believe all this and the undertones are intuitively mean. à If I respond with humor, you'll call me creepy right? à à Why are you here, Share? à What do you get out of this forum?à From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones à Concerned about lack of blood flow in Judy and Emily due to twisted knickers over my usage of wts, I will instead use Buttery Ones to designate a grouping of certain FFL posters: Robin depending if he ironic or not is Melted Butter or Cultured Butter Judy depending if she is vitriolic or not is Churned Butter or Unsalted Butter Raunchy depending if she is nasty or not is Rancid Butter or Goat Milk Butter Ann depending is she's at her stores or with her horses is Waffle Butter or Organic Butter Emily depending on her state is either Butter Cookies or Buttered Rum Ravi depending on his state is either Clarified Butter (Ghee) or sorry I can't resist, Nut Butter Though not an official member of Buttery Ones, me with a wink to Barry, I'm Butter Bouncer ha ha Dear BO (Buttery Ones) Steve has been
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earnest Confusion
http://youtu.be/S4BWhvIlFVE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: ME: I already responded to Dr Dumb Ass's snipped comments. I will accept Raunchy's as a writing prompt. RD: I like what you say here, Doc. Just to guild your lily a little, I'd say that irreverence is a performance art of disaffected seekers. They indulge in tipping sacred cows hoping people will react in horror. ME: Let me stop you there. Can you name a single person who could be expected to react in horror from a satiric piece on Christianity here? Name one pearl-clutcher, to use you apt image. A single person whose identification with the ideas contained in the myths of Christianity, is so complete that anything I wrote could be expected to react in the way your are trying to project here. One. I argue that mine is exactly the opposite motivation than the one you propose here. I wrote it for people who share my sense of humor, I am an entertainer. I would never post it on a board of Christians because I do not have the motivation you ascribe to me. And at this point if anyone is offended by my perspective on Maharishi, after years of full disclosure of my POV, shame on them for reading it. They are going way out of their way for their offended buzz. An example of why I wrote it was Emily's response. That made me very happy and fulfilled my intentions for posting it. RD: It's rather juvenile but they do it just to show how hip, they are and how hip you're not because they think you haven't rejected the beliefs that they have. ME: Do you believe that Jesus died for your sins and that maintaining this believe will somehow alter your disposition in the afterlife? Can you name one person who has that belief here that I could impose my hipness on by making a satire about Christianity? Since we all dissected Judith's book in detail here I could not reasonably expect my mention of the reality of Maharishi's hidden life would do more than elicit a ho hum from this jaded crew. You are imagining something to shame me for that doesn't even make sense. Name one belief concerning the Jesus myth that I have rejected and you have not. The unique divinity of Christ? His role as your personal savior through the mechanism of belief? His role as the fulfillment of the prophesies of the Old Testament? That he was required by God to suffer for our sins? You have to dismiss all the details of Christian theology to get to something we might disagree on, perhaps your conjectures about his state of mind. Maybe you think he was an enlightened guy and I don't. But we agree on a hundred things about the story to find the one we do not agree on. RD: Even today, Barry thought it would be fun to post humorously irreverent road signs by MUM to see who smiled and see who didn't smile. I suspect he's more interested in pissing people off than in delighting them. I go for the latter. ME: I draw your attention to this post as counter evidence for that claim. RD: Funny thing is, after awhile all the TMO, TM and Maharishi bashing, pissing on baby Jesus and exhibitionistic waggling of dicks gets to be so ho-hum that one hardly notices cries for attention fading into the distance. Sadly, when irreverent performance artists, shock jocks, don't get the negative reaction they hoped, they're just as happy to get applause for taking a public dump from people who don't know the difference between art and schlock. ME: I saw a great Curb Your Enthusiasm where Larry David was being subjected to his wife's family Christmas traditions. Alone in the kitchen Larry passes the time eating a cookie he found in a manger scene. To his chagrin and the horror of his in-laws, it turned out that he had eaten the baby Jesus cookie in an all cookie manger scene. Opening his mouth only to switch feet, he tried to pacify them all as they flocked around to shame him by saying I thought it was a monkey cookie. They were not pacified. I share my sense of irreverent humor with Larry, and I wonder if you would project all these negative qualities on his intentions as you have on mine. A more broad minded perspective might allow that when it comes to humor, it is a personal thing and not feel the need to demonize someone making different choices than you. RD Irreverent art is really old school. Back in the day of the Dadaists: Marcel Duchamp penciled a mustache and goatee on a print of Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa and inscribed the work L.H.O.O.Q. Spelled out in French these letters form a risqué pun: Elle a chaud au cul, or She has hot pants Francis Picabia,
[FairfieldLife] Re: bye bye wts hello dear Buttery Ones
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: snip Having said that, if needed one may have to post from time to time to defend against her falsehoods - much like how you handle Barry. and the winner of the Judy Stein Inadvertent Irony Award is Mr. Ravi Chivakula! (nice of you to give her permission Ravi)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earnest Confusion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: ME: I already responded to Dr Dumb Ass's snipped comments. I will accept Raunchy's as a writing prompt. RD: I like what you say here, Doc. Just to guild your lily a little, I'd say that irreverence is a performance art of disaffected seekers. They indulge in tipping sacred cows hoping people will react in horror. ME: Let me stop you there. Can you name a single person who could be expected to react in horror from a satiric piece on Christianity here? Name one pearl-clutcher, to use you apt image. A single person whose identification with the ideas contained in the myths of Christianity, is so complete that anything I wrote could be expected to react in the way your are trying to project here. One. I argue that mine is exactly the opposite motivation than the one you propose here. I wrote it for people who share my sense of humor, I am an entertainer. I would never post it on a board of Christians because I do not have the motivation you ascribe to me. And at this point if anyone is offended by my perspective on Maharishi, after years of full disclosure of my POV, shame on them for reading it. They are going way out of their way for their offended buzz. An example of why I wrote it was Emily's response. That made me very happy and fulfilled my intentions for posting it. RD: It's rather juvenile but they do it just to show how hip, they are and how hip you're not because they think you haven't rejected the beliefs that they have. ME: Do you believe that Jesus died for your sins and that maintaining this believe will somehow alter your disposition in the afterlife? Can you name one person who has that belief here that I could impose my hipness on by making a satire about Christianity? Since we all dissected Judith's book in detail here I could not reasonably expect my mention of the reality of Maharishi's hidden life would do more than elicit a ho hum from this jaded crew. You are imagining something to shame me for that doesn't even make sense. Name one belief concerning the Jesus myth that I have rejected and you have not. The unique divinity of Christ? His role as your personal savior through the mechanism of belief? His role as the fulfillment of the prophesies of the Old Testament? That he was required by God to suffer for our sins? You have to dismiss all the details of Christian theology to get to something we might disagree on, perhaps your conjectures about his state of mind. Maybe you think he was an enlightened guy and I don't. But we agree on a hundred things about the story to find the one we do not agree on. RD: Even today, Barry thought it would be fun to post humorously irreverent road signs by MUM to see who smiled and see who didn't smile. I suspect he's more interested in pissing people off than in delighting them. I go for the latter. ME: I draw your attention to this post as counter evidence for that claim. RD: Funny thing is, after awhile all the TMO, TM and Maharishi bashing, pissing on baby Jesus and exhibitionistic waggling of dicks gets to be so ho-hum that one hardly notices cries for attention fading into the distance. Sadly, when irreverent performance artists, shock jocks, don't get the negative reaction they hoped, they're just as happy to get applause for taking a public dump from people who don't know the difference between art and schlock. ME: I saw a great Curb Your Enthusiasm where Larry David was being subjected to his wife's family Christmas traditions. Alone in the kitchen Larry passes the time eating a cookie he found in a manger scene. To his chagrin and the horror of his in-laws, it turned out that he had eaten the baby Jesus cookie in an all cookie manger scene. Opening his mouth only to switch feet, he tried to pacify them all as they flocked around to shame him by saying I thought it was a monkey cookie. They were not pacified. I share my sense of irreverent humor with Larry, and I wonder if you would project all these negative qualities on his intentions as you have on mine. A more broad minded perspective might allow that when it comes to humor, it is a personal thing and not feel the need to demonize someone making different choices than you. RD Irreverent art is really old school. Back in the day of the Dadaists: Marcel Duchamp penciled a mustache and goatee on a print of Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa and inscribed the work L.H.O.O.Q. Spelled out in French these letters form a risqué pun: Elle a chaud au cul, or She has hot pants Francis Picabia, once tacked a stuffed
