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[FairfieldLife] Living with the American IAPOI legacy as an ex-pat
It's a bitch. For six years now I've lived in France and in Spain, and traveled elsewhere in Europe, and it's taught me a great deal about America and its image worldwide. I'd love to believe that I fit in here, and that no one would mistake me for an American, but sadly that is not true. If nothing else, my accent gives me away every time, no matter how much I practice my French or Spanish or Catalan. Things will be going along swimmingly with some new person I've just met at a cafe or a dinner party, and then I'll fail to pronounce Rouen the way Dave Barry learned it should be pronounced, Woon, and the other person's 'tude towards me will change abruptly. Instead of assuming that I am possessed of above- average intelligence, which they thought a moment ago, they now assume that because I am an American, I am stupid. And not only stupid, but Ignorant And Proud Of It. THAT, my friends who live in America and don't travel much outside it, is the legacy of modern America. THAT is how the world is going to perceive you when you travel, because that is how the vast majority of the people in your country act. They have voted for people who they *know* told them lies about why their country invaded Iraq, and they have voted for them TWICE. Because they wanted the lies to be true. They may have *known* inwardly that the Iraq war was a lie, but they wanted to believe that it *wasn't* a lie so strongly that they voted for someone who just kept repeating the same lie over and over again. They didn't *want* the truth; they wanted the ignorance. They prefer the ignorance of Global warming is a hoax to the truth of Global warming and our contri- bution to it as a nation is going to kill our own children. They prefer the ignorance of We have the highest standard of living on the planet to the truth that We are unhealthy and live in a constant state of fear because we are as bankrupt and living on credit as our nation is. They prefer ignorance. Period. And they're *proud* of thinking this way. And I get lumped in with them almost every time some- one figures out that I'm from America. And it pisses me off and I'm tired of it. I'm tired of having to go back and waste a couple of hours of remedial education with these people to clue them into the fact that I don't think like this, even though I'm an American. But that's just the advance PR that comes with you as baggage when you're an American living or traveling abroad. It's what people assume about you because you're an American, and it's all that they expect you to live up to, or down to. I, for one, wish that the country of my birth would dump this Ignorant And Proud Of It 'tude about life, and just fuckin' smarten up. For once, America, do something RIGHT, so that those of us out here in the bigger world don't have to keep apologizing for you and trying to distance ourselves from you. Elect someone smart for a change. Please.
[FairfieldLife] Fiesta Again
Spain has a *lot* of Fiestas. And, since I think that providing excuses to party down is a Good Thing in a culture, this once-a-month major Fiesta thing really fits well into my lifestyle. This particular Fiesta is supposedly the Catalan party-down long weekend of the year, and as such feels a little different than previous Fiestas this summer. Most of the rest of them were orig- inally religious in nature, and thus still have a slightly stodgy feel to them. This one feels more like, We're Catalan and we're still here after centuries of barbarians trying to make us fit into their culture and give up our own, and this is our weekend to party. Be warned. For some odd cosmic reason, English tourists of the gay persuasion seem to feel a solidarity with this Catalan joie de vivre, because the town is just *full* of them this weekend. But it's also full of English tourists of the straight female persuasion, so I'm not complaining. I'm wearing my gaudiest Tommy Bahama shirt while sitting here at the Budda Bar typing away, and I've been getting a lot of interested glances anyway, more than usual. And from the women. Cool. Maybe this Fiesta attracts a higher class of tourist. Or a lonelier one. Whatever. It's a neat day, and the pheromone level in the air is so high it's probably testable, and it promises to be a good party. I think healthy cultures *have* parties. One of the ways that I could tell that the TMO had gone off the dharmic rails was that it stopped having parties. They started having celebrations instead. Deadly *serious* celebratoins, during which having actual fun seemed to be Off The Program. Call me an old hippie, but I *like* having fun. I *like* getting together with my friends for no other reason *than* to party and have fun. That seems to me to echo the flow of dharma I feel in the universe. I don't get the feeling that the universe wants me to take it all seriously, or myself seriously. If the universe has a sentience of its own, I suspect it wants me and all of its component sentient parts to party down as often and as heartily as possible. I think that the universe is one big party animal. One thing you can say about the Rama - Frederic Lenz guy was that he knew how to throw a party. He under- stood the seriousness that spiritual seekers tended to impose upon them selves, and he did his best to alleviate that seriousness at regular intervals. We'd fly to Maui and have a Gong Show on the beach while drinking Mai-tais. We'd go on a hike to a power place in the desert on the Fourth Of July and be served ice cream cones, secretly carried out in their backpacks by him and a few trusted souls, packed in dry ice. We'd go en masse to movies, or to concerts by Tangerine Dream, and afterwards basically take over the nearest restaurant and party till dawn. I think parties play an important part in the life of a spiritual seeker. There have got to be situations in which you are allowed and encouraged to let your hair down and just be your self. Drop the roles you have imposed upon yourself as you pursue your sadhana and just have FUN for a while. Tomorrow you can go back to being all serious, if you have to. But maybe you won't feel you have to.
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig
The metaphor he used has an obvious meaning. To try to connect this with a disgusting slur on women is such a stretch that I am amazed you could believe it. But this kind of connection seems completely crazy to me. (That is not an underhanded reference to the antiquated diagnosis of hysteria in women although I am as proficient in the cure as the quack doctors of that era. Special credit for anyone who can tell me what the cure was. I'm sure you know Judy.) What is so impossible about seeing that the pig in lipstick kerfuffle is about Palin, when Obama's audience absolutely got it? The reason they whooped and hollered grandly was not because he slammed McCain. That intensity of response could only have happened because his little in joke was about Palin. His sneaky insults have become an art form. No, Hillary supporters are not crazy or hysterics. And I hope you are not insinuating that Judy, in not so veiled code, needs to get laid. That would be about as helpful as your cure for the ladies who have probably been faking it. There are too many quacks waddling around here. If I need help, I'll see http://tinyurl.com/6nvl5b Again, I strongly suspect Obama knew exactly what he was saying. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: It's difficult to explain away Obama's lipstick on a pig remark that he wasn't referring to Palin. But, what follows is equally damning in Obama's own words, You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, it's still gonna stink after eight years. Women get it that Obama was referring to a woman's lady-parts as stinky fish. Obama just lost the election. Bets are on. Dude, you are being the sexist, disgusting, pig here. I'm guessing you haven't had much actual contact with the opposite sex if that is your immediate association. In the first place, raunchydog isn't a dude, she's a dame. In the second place, you're fortunate if you've never encountered the insulting association of smelly old fish with a woman. Sorry to be clinical, but it's a reference to menstrual blood, which does smell a little fishy as it's drying. It's a slightly elderly association from pre-Tampax days when the odor was much more of a problem for menstruating women. No older woman would fail to recognize that association, and older women, of course, are Hillary's base, those who may be most tempted to vote for McCain because of Palin. Again, I strongly suspect Obama knew exactly what he was saying.
[FairfieldLife] Kallo ja luut?
Ties kuinka kauan USA:n presidentti on ollut vain salaisen, kvasi-fundie-kristityistä koostuvan *todellisen* (S B) -Hallituksen sätkynukke. Vaikuttaa siltä, että he haluavat lätkä-äiti Sarah Palin'ista pressan, jotta voivat huseerata miten tahtovat presidentin kykenemättä puuttumaan asioihin mitenkään! :D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Living with the American IAPOI legacy as an ex-pat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a bitch. For six years now I've lived in France and in Spain, and traveled elsewhere in Europe, and it's taught me a great deal about America and its image worldwide. I'd love to believe that I fit in here, and that no one would mistake me for an American, but sadly that is not true. If nothing else, my accent gives me away every time, no matter how much I practice my French or Spanish or Catalan. Things will be going along swimmingly with some new person I've just met at a cafe or a dinner party, and then I'll fail to pronounce Rouen the way Dave Barry learned it should be pronounced, Woon, and the other person's 'tude towards me will change abruptly. Instead of assuming that I am possessed of above- average intelligence, which they thought a moment ago, they now assume that because I am an American, I am stupid. And not only stupid, but Ignorant And Proud Of It. THAT, my friends who live in America and don't travel much outside it, is the legacy of modern America. THAT is how the world is going to perceive you when you travel, because that is how the vast majority of the people in your country act. They have voted for people who they *know* told them lies about why their country invaded Iraq, and they have voted for them TWICE. Because they wanted the lies to be true. They may have *known* inwardly that the Iraq war was a lie, but they wanted to believe that it *wasn't* a lie so strongly that they voted for someone who just kept repeating the same lie over and over again. They didn't *want* the truth; they wanted the ignorance. They prefer the ignorance of Global warming is a hoax to the truth of Global warming and our contri- bution to it as a nation is going to kill our own children. They prefer the ignorance of We have the highest standard of living on the planet to the truth that We are unhealthy and live in a constant state of fear because we are as bankrupt and living on credit as our nation is. They prefer ignorance. Period. And they're *proud* of thinking this way. And I get lumped in with them almost every time some- one figures out that I'm from America. And it pisses me off and I'm tired of it. Or you could embrace it and not have to relive it in the Bardo. I'm tired of having to go back and waste a couple of hours of remedial education with these people to clue them into the fact that I don't think like this, even though I'm an American. But that's just the advance PR that comes with you as baggage when you're an American living or traveling abroad. It's what people assume about you because you're an American, and it's all that they expect you to live up to, or down to. I, for one, wish that the country of my birth would dump this Ignorant And Proud Of It 'tude about life, and just fuckin' smarten up. For once, America, do something RIGHT, so that those of us out here in the bigger world don't have to keep apologizing for you and trying to distance ourselves from you. We'll do our best not to embarass you anymore. (but we still have Curtis-- so no guarantees). But thanks so much for being so dependent on us for your happiness and well-being. It makes us back here feel needed. Elect someone smart for a change. Please. Gosh, we'll knuckle down and try! I just hope I don't get all dumb again like in the last elections. You know how dumb that us dufuses can get.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kallo ja luut?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ties kuinka kauan USA:n presidentti on ollut vain salaisen, kvasi-fundie-kristityistä koostuvan *todellisen* (S B) -Hallituksen sätkynukke. Vaikuttaa siltä, että he haluavat lätkä-äiti Sarah Palin'ista pressan, jotta voivat huseerata miten tahtovat presidentin kykenemättä puuttumaan asioihin mitenkään! :D a;lsk dfj ;aslkd jf ;oiu q-pe 8uu0up[qy9y8 ! ;kj; asdlkj r0ubvj;lkadj; j :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Living with the American IAPOI legacy as an ex-pat
On Sep 13, 2008, at 1:07 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Things will be going along swimmingly with some new person I've just met at a cafe or a dinner party, and then I'll fail to pronounce Rouen the way Dave Barry learned it should be pronounced, Woon, and the other person's 'tude towards me will change abruptly. Instead of assuming that I am possessed of above- average intelligence, which they thought a moment ago, they now assume that because I am an American, I am stupid. And not only stupid, but Ignorant And Proud Of It. THAT, my friends who live in America and don't travel much outside it, is the legacy of modern America. All that proves, Barry, is that there's bigots outside of America as well as in. (trim) I, for one, wish that the country of my birth would dump this Ignorant And Proud Of It 'tude about life, and just fuckin' smarten up. So do many Americans. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Living with the American IAPOI legacy as an ex-pat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 13, 2008, at 1:07 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Things will be going along swimmingly with some new person I've just met at a cafe or a dinner party, and then I'll fail to pronounce Rouen the way Dave Barry learned it should be pronounced, Woon, and the other person's 'tude towards me will change abruptly. Instead of assuming that I am possessed of above- average intelligence, which they thought a moment ago, they now assume that because I am an American, I am stupid. And not only stupid, but Ignorant And Proud Of It. THAT, my friends who live in America and don't travel much outside it, is the legacy of modern America. All that proves, Barry, is that there's bigots outside of America as well as in. True. (trim) I, for one, wish that the country of my birth would dump this Ignorant And Proud Of It 'tude about life, and just fuckin' smarten up. So do many Americans. But they don't ever DO anything about it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Living with the American IAPOI legacy as an ex-pat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things will be going along swimmingly with some new person I've just met at a cafe or a dinner party, and then I'll fail to pronounce Rouen the way Dave Barry learned it should be pronounced, Woon, and the other person's 'tude towards me will change abruptly. I have no idea how difficult or easy it is for a native speaker of (standard American) English to learn to pronounce a trilled r-sound. If you want to camouflage, or whatever, your native language, I think you should concentrate on getting rid of the typical American 'r', which IMO differs even from, say, the British 'r'. I guess the main difference is that a typical American 'r' is pronounced farther back in the throat. But I'm not at all sure about that. H...just tried to pronounce a trilled 'r' in American style. It feels downright impossible to make it trilled and in the same time have the articulation basis, or stuff, rather deep in the throat.
[FairfieldLife] My thoughts exactly, except for the stuff about her being hot
Michael Seitzman Sarah Palin Naked She said nucular. Twice. I realized three things tonight. For one, if you are a McCain/Palin/Bush voter, you and I do not have a difference of opinion. We have a difference in brain power. Two, she really is as ignorant as I feared. And, three, she really is kinda hot. Basically, I want to have sex with her on my Barack Obama sheets while my wife reads aloud from the Constitution. (My wife is cool with this if I promise to first wipe off Palin's tranny makeup. I married well.) Now, I want to be clear and speak directly to those of you who LOVED that Palin interview. You're an idiot. I mean that. This is not one of those cases where we're going to agree to disagree. This isn't one of those situations where we debate it passion- ately and then walk away thinking that the other guy is wrong but argued well. I'm not going to think of you as a thoughtful but misguided person with different ideas who still really cares about the country and the world. No, sorry, not this time. This time, if you watched those interview excerpts and weren't scared out of your freakin' mind, then you're mentally ill, mentally disabled, or mentally disturbed. What you are NOT is responsible, informed, curious, thoughtful, mature, educated, empathetic, or remotely serious. I mean it. But I like to think that anyone can change. Stop voting for people you want to have a beer with. Stop voting for folksy. Stop voting for people who remind you of your neighbor. Stop voting for the ideologically intransigent, the staggeringly ignorant, and the blazingly incompetent. Vote for someone smarter than you. Vote for someone who inspires you. Vote for someone who has not only traveled the world but who has also shown a deep understanding and compassion for it. The stakes are real and they're terrifyingly high. This election matters. It matters. It really matters. Let me say that one more time. This. Really. Matters.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kallo ja luut?
Kallo, Gallo, Gyalla, Gyana, Gana, Kyana, Gshana, Shiana, Shrama, Rama, Vrama, Bramha, Bhrana, Brana, Vrana, Varayana, Vatadhana, Shamadana, Actuarana, JamaDagnama, Shri Srama, Vaghnama, Jai Sama Vran Bran Bagavad Shri Bevanadanum. Om. veriam, veritam vairasanatayum OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ties kuinka kauan USA:n presidentti on ollut vain salaisen, kvasi-fundie-kristityistä koostuvan *todellisen* (S B) -Hallituksen sätkynukke. Vaikuttaa siltä, että he haluavat lätkä-äiti Sarah Palin'ista pressan, jotta voivat huseerata miten tahtovat presidentin kykenemättä puuttumaan asioihin mitenkään! :D
[FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain doesn't know how to send an e-mail
John McCain doesn't know how to send an e-mail So? Why is that important? OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the video, Matt Damon says if you look up the actuarial tables there is a one in three chance that McCain will die within the next four years. Damon then boldly challenges us to do the actuarial tables. Well, I did...and Damon is off...WAY off. The actuarial tables supplied by the U.S. government indicate a one in seven chance, NOT a one in three chance, as Damon claims. Wrong again Shempgurkin, according to the statistics on McCain's chance, he should already be dead. He is now in the statistical outlier zone at this point Shump. The statistics even show that YOU wil be dead within the decade, and no-one --- yes, no-one whatsoever --- will care. Get an education. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Matt Damon, bullshit artist --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.searchme.com/#/0/ http://www.searchme.com/#/0/ http://www.searchme.com/#/0/pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448 http://www.searchme.com/#/0/pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448 F pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448F C61D4D 3B2FF77E257D06F3A27CF2284EB59/vs=stacksState/ In the video, Matt Damon says if you look up the actuarial tables there is a one in three chance that McCain will die within the next four years. Damon then boldly challenges us to do the actuarial tables. Well, I did...and Damon is off...WAY off. The actuarial tables supplied by the U.S. government indicate a one in seven chance, NOT a one in three chance, as Damon claims. Take a look at http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/table4c6.html http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/table4c6.html If you add up the four years for males from ages 72 to 75 you get 0.151985 which translates to about 1/7th or one in 7. Did you factor in his several bouts with serious skin cancer? He had a growth removed just a month or so ago. No, I didn't. There are, literally, dozens of variables aside from age and gender (the only two variables in the actuarial charts I linked to above) that are factored into an individual's actuarial rating and, yes, cancer history is an important one. Another one is the lifespan of one's parents; for example McCain's 96 year old mother, who is still alive. But what about McCain's real father, who died at the time of conception? OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] My Morning Meditation
today's was a kind of walking meditation, an exercise in mindfulness while walking with my dogs along the beach nothing esoteric just paying attention to what's going on in the environment and in my mind sun blue, near-cloudless sky gentle breeze coming in off the sea from North Africa, carrying the scent of cinnamon and turmeric stands set up along the boardwalk by local vintners so we can taste their fine Penedes wines later today streets already clean the morning after a major Fiesta the only others out at this hour are fishermen and pets out walking their owners and a jolly vendor pushin' churros from his pushcart without being pushy the sound of the waves the sound of psychic dog laughter as I let my owners run leashless on the beach now a little mindfulness on what is NOT present, paying attention to what's NOT going on in the environment and in my mind no ads or posters or bumperstickers for Bimbo and Bimbette for that matter no ads or posters or bumperstickers for Obimbo, either the only thing political I see are a couple of Tibetan flags flying from balconies no police no need no one is trying to start a fight no fear of terrorists or crime no fear period enough of that mindfulness time gently bring the attention back to what is important, the focus of the meditation sun blue, near-cloudless sky gentle breeze coming in off the sea from North Africa, carrying the scent of cinnamon and turmeric So what did you think about in your morning meditation?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Living with the American IAPOI legacy as an ex-pat
On Sep 13, 2008, at 1:53 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I, for one, wish that the country of my birth would dump this Ignorant And Proud Of It 'tude about life, and just fuckin' smarten up. So do many Americans. But they don't ever DO anything about it. I know, it's sick. But this has been happening for a long time, which is how Reagan and Nixon got in to begin with. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: My thoughts exactly, except for the stuff about her being hot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Seitzman Sarah Palin Naked She said nucular. Twice. I realized three things tonight. For one, if you are a McCain/Palin/Bush voter, you and I do not have a difference of opinion. We have a difference in brain power. Two, she really is as ignorant as I feared. And, three, she really is kinda hot. Basically, I want to have sex with her on my Barack Obama sheets while my wife reads aloud from the Constitution. (My wife is cool with this if I promise to first wipe off Palin's tranny makeup. I married well.) Now, I want to be clear and speak directly to those of you who LOVED that Palin interview. You're an idiot. I mean that. This is not one of those cases where we're going to agree to disagree. This isn't one of those situations where we debate it passion- ately and then walk away thinking that the other guy is wrong but argued well. I'm not going to think of you as a thoughtful but misguided person with different ideas who still really cares about the country and the world. No, sorry, not this time. This time, if you watched those interview excerpts and weren't scared out of your freakin' mind, then you're mentally ill, mentally disabled, or mentally disturbed. What you are NOT is responsible, informed, curious, thoughtful, mature, educated, empathetic, or remotely serious. I mean it. But I like to think that anyone can change. Stop voting for people you want to have a beer with. Stop voting for folksy. Stop voting for people who remind you of your neighbor. Stop voting for the ideologically intransigent, the staggeringly ignorant, and the blazingly incompetent. Vote for someone smarter than you. Vote for someone who inspires you. Vote for someone who has not only traveled the world but who has also shown a deep understanding and compassion for it. The stakes are real and they're terrifyingly high. This election matters. It matters. It really matters. Let me say that one more time. This. Really. Matters. This is Exactly how I feel. Made me feel good to read it - he puts it so well. So far, I cannot bear to watch or read much about this - too upsetting. These are not my fellow Americans if they vote for these folks, again
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultivating Imperfections in TM/TMSP
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip I would also would question whether TM or the TMSP actually helps concentration, the ability to focus in a totally relaxed manner for long periods of time on a particular thing. Compare that to the shamatha practitioners in the Shamatha Project who could meditate for up to 12 hours, many hours of that undistracted by thoughts! And then they came out rejuvenated and ready for more... Compare what to the shamatha practitioners, Vaj? Your uncertainty as to whether TM or the TM-Sidhis helps TMers to concentrate? You're obviously talking about concentration outside of meditation, since, as you know, TM itself doesn't employ concentration. I can't figure out what the meditational abilities of the shamatha practitioners has to do with your doubts as to whether TMers can concentrate for long periods outside of meditation. wasn't there something about the impurity of getting hung up about not being distracted by thoughts...? Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.searchme.com/#/0/pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448F C61D4D 3B2FF77E257D06F3A27CF2284EB59/vs=stacksState/ In the video, Matt Damon says if you look up the actuarial tables there is a one in three chance that McCain will die within the next four years. Damon then boldly challenges us to do the actuarial tables. Well, I did...and Damon is off...WAY off. The actuarial tables supplied by the U.S. government indicate a one in seven chance, NOT a one in three chance, as Damon claims. Take a look at http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/table4c6.html If you add up the four years for males from ages 72 to 75 you get 0.151985 which translates to about 1/7th or one in 7. I think he meant with 5 cancer operations, hypertension and a Type A personality... Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Matt Damon, bullshit artist --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.searchme.com/#/0/ http://www.searchme.com/#/0/pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448 F pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448F C61D4D 3B2FF77E257D06F3A27CF2284EB59/vs=stacksState/ In the video, Matt Damon says if you look up the actuarial tables there is a one in three chance that McCain will die within the next four years. Damon then boldly challenges us to do the actuarial tables. Well, I did...and Damon is off...WAY off. The actuarial tables supplied by the U.S. government indicate a one in seven chance, NOT a one in three chance, as Damon claims. Take a look at http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/table4c6.html If you add up the four years for males from ages 72 to 75 you get 0.151985 which translates to about 1/7th or one in 7. Did you factor in his several bouts with serious skin cancer? He had a growth removed just a month or so ago. No, I didn't. There are, literally, dozens of variables aside from age and gender (the only two variables in the actuarial charts I linked to above) that are factored into an individual's actuarial rating and, yes, cancer history is an important one. Another one is the lifespan of one's parents; for example McCain's 96 year old mother, who is still alive. However, one cannot take ALL the variables and make an effective rating for a given individual without having access to one's full medical records and history. I doubt the Hollywood star Matt Damon had access to those. Absent those records, one can only rely upon the general age/gender actuarial tables, which is what I linked to. By the way, another factor that would have to be considered would be profession. Professions such as airline pilot or trapeze artist gets special ratings (i.e. costs extra premium on an insurance policy). And, of course, one of the most dangerous jobs in the world is president of the United States because of 43 that have existed, 4 have been assassinated. But that rating would apply not only to McCain but to Obama as well. Damon probably meant that McCain had a 1 in 3 chance of dying over the period of 8 years, which is two terms as president. That would have been more accurate, but Damon made specific reference to one term. And, of course, a candidate for president only runs for one term at a time. He probably misread: http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=253B8DF9-18FE-70B2- A8961A86DC5B16C7
[FairfieldLife] Sittin' in the Budda Bar, sippin' Dharma
In Sitges, Dharma is served in a tall wide glass, rimmed with pink and white sugar sprinkles. Accord- ing to the cocktails menu, it contains Tequila Silver, Grenadine, and orange juice. And hey...Dharma is yummy. The Budda Bar is a new bar in Sitges. It's on the main drag looking out at the beach, and like its neighbor down the street, Nirvana, it's got a cool name. That's a good thing in a bar when you're looking for one to sit in and write for a while. And unlike Nirvana, this bar is not filled with Yuppies. It's got an interesting clientele, even after having been open only a week. And the cocktails menu is way cool, too, if I wind up sitting here and doing a lot of writing this Fall. I get to choose from drinks called Nirvana, Karma, OMM, Blue Monk, Zen, Mantra, Angkor Wat, Ayutthaya, Shiva, Dharma, Lotos (Lotus), and Mandara. Cool. And such a deal. For six Euros (cheap for a beachfront bar), I can get a big, tall drink that lasts almost exactly as long as the battery in my laptop does. Would there be a bar like this, with this bar's name and the names of its drinks, if Maharishi hadn't made meditation a household word? It's a good question, one that we will never know the answer to, because he *did* make meditation a household word. And I, for one, thank him for doing so. Although I had done some meditation before I met him, both during my Better Living Through Chemistry period and after it, I never really approached meditation as a regular practice until I met him. In a very real way, he introduced me in this life to the flow of Dharma and the joy of surfing that flow, and that's cool. So I raise my glass, this fine perfect-temperature afternoon in Sitges, and toast his memory with a glass that is still full, 41 years later, of Dharma. Good move, dude. And here's another toast to my new Click Next the instant I see a BPD poster's name in the From line of a post resolution. I've been keeping track of the number of times I clicked Next without reading a word of the post, and so far today this resolution has enabled me to avoid a total of 30 time-wasting and energy-wasting screeds by four compulsive idiots spoiling for a fight and trying their best to start one, just so they'll feel alive. I guess that's a kind of Dharma, too, but I'm tellin' ya...I prefer the variety they serve at the Budda Bar. With any luck, and at this rate, the four of them will be gone by Monday, and the rest of the posting week at Fairfield Life will be as much of a party environment as the town of Sitges is this weekend. The rest of us will have fun and actually have a few pleasant conversations, while the BPD compulsives are off in some dark funk feeling persecuted because they can't fantasize about persecuting us any more. If they go *really* insane and post out while I'm still sitting here with this drink (which everyone but them knows is a distinct possibility), maybe I'll even order a second drink. But I'll make this one a Nirvana to celebrate, because celebration will feel appropriate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kallo ja luut?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kallo, Gallo, Gyalla, Gyana, Gana, Kyana, Gshana, Shiana, Shrama, Rama, Vrama, Bramha, Bhrana, Brana, Vrana, Varayana, Vatadhana, Shamadana, Actuarana, JamaDagnama, Shri Srama, Vaghnama, Jai Sama Vran Bran Bagavad Shri Bevanadanum. Om. veriam, veritam vairasanatayum OffWorld Whoa, that's kewl! :D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist
Just another smear by the liberal, misogynist, media who can't stand that a woman of true values and integrity with a plastic Jesus in her heart has stepped-up to the plate and hit a grandslam for the red,white and blue! Go Alaska! --- On Sat, 9/13/08, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 6:05 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Matt Damon, bullshit artist --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.searchme.com/#/0/ http://www.searchme.com/#/0/pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448 F pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448F C61D4D 3B2FF77E257D06F3A27CF2284EB59/vs=stacksState/ In the video, Matt Damon says if you look up the actuarial tables there is a one in three chance that McCain will die within the next four years. Damon then boldly challenges us to do the actuarial tables. Well, I did...and Damon is off...WAY off. The actuarial tables supplied by the U.S. government indicate a one in seven chance, NOT a one in three chance, as Damon claims. Take a look at http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/table4c6.html If you add up the four years for males from ages 72 to 75 you get 0.151985 which translates to about 1/7th or one in 7. Did you factor in his several bouts with serious skin cancer? He had a growth removed just a month or so ago. No, I didn't. There are, literally, dozens of variables aside from age and gender (the only two variables in the actuarial charts I linked to above) that are factored into an individual's actuarial rating and, yes, cancer history is an important one. Another one is the lifespan of one's parents; for example McCain's 96 year old mother, who is still alive. However, one cannot take ALL the variables and make an effective rating for a given individual without having access to one's full medical records and history. I doubt the Hollywood star Matt Damon had access to those. Absent those records, one can only rely upon the general age/gender actuarial tables, which is what I linked to. By the way, another factor that would have to be considered would be profession. Professions such as airline pilot or trapeze artist gets special ratings (i.e. costs extra premium on an insurance policy). And, of course, one of the most dangerous jobs in the world is president of the United States because of 43 that have existed, 4 have been assassinated. But that rating would apply not only to McCain but to Obama as well. Damon probably meant that McCain had a 1 in 3 chance of dying over the period of 8 years, which is two terms as president. That would have been more accurate, but Damon made specific reference to one term. And, of course, a candidate for president only runs for one term at a time. He probably misread: http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=253B8DF9-18FE-70B2- A8961A86DC5B16C7 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think he meant with 5 cancer operations, hypertension and a Type A personality... Lawson The election shall be a farce? Everything has been orchestrated, or whatever, in such a manner, that Sarah Palin shall become an ignoramus sock puppet president with no power to say what THE Boys should or shouldn't do? (?There's a government inside the government... -- Bill Clinton?)
[FairfieldLife] The Answer To The World's Political Probjems
It's simple, it's cheap, and it would both improve the political process and bring dignity to it. Nose glasses. You know...the kind with big, thick, black frames and with a big, bushy mustache under the bridge. Simply require that any candidate for public office wear nose glasses full-time until the election is over. In every photo, nose glasses. At every speaking engage- ment, nose glasses. On every poster and ad, nose glasses. In every debate, every candidate is wearing nose glasses. I think it would fix almost everything that is currently wrong with politics. Why? Well, have you ever tried to get someone to take you seriously while you were wearing nose glasses? You're up there ranting away a mile a minute, trying to get everyone to CARE about what you're ranting about enough to vote for you, and you look out at the audience and they're all laughing at you because you're doing all this and trying to be all serious *while wearing nose glasses*. Who can possibly take someone seriously who is wearing nose glasses? And if you really ARE a cool candidate, someone who actually is evolved enough and smart enough to deserve to win, when this happens and you find everyone laughing at you, you'll start to laugh at yourself. And that will be the thing that the voters will be looking for, and that will tell them who to vote for. [ The preceding is a paid political message brought to you by There's One Reborn Every Minute, Inc., provider of fine nose glasses and fine politics since 1967. ]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
raunchydog wrote: While on hiatus I started this post as an email to Rick in response to photos of the Palin family he mistakenly emailed, and for which he apologized. The photos portrayed her family as red necks partying with liquor and toting guns. Rick, the forum moderator, has been sending you photos of the Palin family by email? WTF? You mean the moderator is biased against Sarah Palin's family? Why would Rick want to smear the Palin family, including a Dowms baby? It just doesn't make any sense. So, Barak Obama is a celebrity politician, a lawyer, and was once a star, an 'American Idol', but now his star is fading. So Obama lashed out at Sarah Palin. His pal, Joe Biden said Sarah Palin was 'good-looking.' Then they said she was 'doing what she was told to do'. Then they called Sarah Palin a liar and said she was not the mother of her Down's baby. Then Obana called Sarah Palin a 'pig' and a 'stinky fish'. One the rascals even cracked a joke about a 'ball-gag', whatever that is. Then the FFL political pundits said Sarah Palin had a nice ass, and they posted photoshopped images of Sara in a bikini. And now some FFL informants are sending photos of Palin's family, depicting them as 'rednecks', to the FFL respondents. What is a 'redneck' anyway? Can you believe this? And then the FFL pundits tried to run off all the women on the forum and tried to ban a you for taking up for Sarah Palin! This is just outrageous! Yahoo! FFL sucks. Apparently they will do anything to smear Sarah Palin. They are mad as hell and really, really scared and afraid. And now Governor Sarah Palin proves them wrong, every day.
[FairfieldLife] Meditation Tastings
I'm still at the Budda Bar, still on my first drink, still writing, and still with at least an hour left on my battery. Life is good. Across the street, life is good in another way. That's where they have the stands set up for the wine tasting. People are lined up to try the latest vintages from the Garraf and the Penedes. I love the way that wine is sold. If you love good wine, you don't buy it because it has a fancy label or because of the ads or because Cindy Crawford is the spokesmodel in those ads. You go out to a winery or to a store that cares as much about wine as you do, and you actually taste the stuff. If you're lucky, you wind up dealing with enthusiastic, happy people who are really in love with the wine that they grow and sell. They'd love for you to like it, too, and hope that you will. But if you don't, they under- stand, because in the world of wine there is no such thing as best, just The Wine You Prefer. This is the way I think meditation should be taught. No glitz, no glammer, no fancy label, no claims of bestness, no expensive ads with Heather Graham in them. You just hold talks and teach what you've got to offer to all who attend. And you do it for free. If you really love the technique of meditation or the spiritual path that you have to offer to people, put your ass (and its ass) on the line the way that vintners do, and let people *taste* the damned product before buying it. If they like it, they'll take what they've learned home with them and imbibe it again. If they find that the knowledge you gave to them for free brings some benefit to their lives, they'll come back to you to find out more. If not, you'll have done a nice thing anyway. This is actually how meditation was taught in a few of the spiritual organizations I\ve hung with. And it seemed to work for them. Who paid for it? For the posters and the ads and the cost of the meeting rooms and the time spent teaching the classes? We did, of course, we being the students of that partic- ular spiritual path. We considered it selfless giving and paying it forward, because other students before us paid for our first free talk and instruction session. Call me an idealist, but I think that this is how teaching meditation works best. Doing it free keeps all the money crap out of the equation, and much of the ego crap as well.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
Peter wrote: This interview with Gibson completely exposes her as a political ra-ra. Did we watch the same interview? You didn't mention a single specific instance to indicate that Sarah Palin was exposed. Did you even watch the interview? I did and Sarah Palin made Charlie look like a fool. This guy Gibson didn't even know what the 'Bush Doctrine' was! Can you beleive that? Not to mention that Charlie lied about Palin's prayer statement. She said - quite correctly - that, if Georgia and Ukraine are admitted to NATO, the United States may be obliged to defend them. This has been morphed into an assertion that we might invade Russia. And ABC News bears much of the blame: It actually sent out a pre-broadcast alert to that effect. So now we can play this stupid game, pretending she wants to invade Russia instead of debating real issues. Read more: 'ABC'S Bungles' By Kirsten Powers New York Post, September 12, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/43qq8u
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Tastings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who paid for it? For the posters and the ads and the cost of the meeting rooms and the time spent teaching the classes? We did, of course, we being the students of that partic- ular spiritual path. We considered it selfless giving and paying it forward, because other students before us paid for our first free talk and instruction session. The Internet has been a great place for people to teach for free. I'm continually amazed at the people who make an avocation out of teaching and counseling gratis online. Since going online in 1995 I've read educational pieces for sex, appliance repair, grease cars, meditation and more. People do it, apparently, because it's fun. It may aggrandize the ego - I know more than you - but often the impulse seems selfless. In Waldorf Education circles, it's acknowledged that the impulse to teach arises from within the soul, and cannot be denied. Neither can it be sold. True teachers cannot *not* teach. Waldorf teachers consider their teaching to be a gift they give, and encourage parents to consider their tuition payments to be gifts as well, rather than fees for services. The problem with this teaching-as-a-gift model is that it's not sustainable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Tastings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Who paid for it? For the posters and the ads and the cost of the meeting rooms and the time spent teaching the classes? We did, of course, we being the students of that partic- ular spiritual path. We considered it selfless giving and paying it forward, because other students before us paid for our first free talk and instruction session. The Internet has been a great place for people to teach for free. I'm continually amazed at the people who make an avocation out of teaching and counseling gratis online. Since going online in 1995 I've read educational pieces for sex, appliance repair, grease cars... Can I dare to hope that the courses in sex, appliance repair and how to operate a grease gun were not all offered at the same website, or worse, in the same course? :-) ...meditation and more. People do it, apparently, because it's fun. It may aggrandize the ego - I know more than you - but often the impulse seems selfless. In Waldorf Education circles, it's acknowledged that the impulse to teach arises from within the soul, and cannot be denied. Neither can it be sold. True teachers cannot *not* teach. Waldorf teachers consider their teaching to be a gift they give, and encourage parents to consider their tuition payments to be gifts as well, rather than fees for services. The problem with this teaching-as-a-gift model is that it's not sustainable. I beg to differ. It's how a couple of tradi- tional Tibetan sanghas I've interacted with have sustained themselves for centuries. The key is size, and no one in the organiza- tion getting paid. No one. This includes the head teacher, if there is one. He or she has a Day Job and works for a living, too. Plus, none of the three or four organizations I've had personal experience with that teach for free has ever had any desire to get big. They have no staff, they have no accountants, they have no real expenses *except* the rooms they teach in and the ads and teaching materials. And they like things that way. Introduce the grandiose and (some would say) megalomaniacal desire to save the world, and you have the TMO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inventor of the term Bush Doctrine: Gibson clueless
Shemp wrote: Yes, Palin didn't know what it is. But neither does Gibson. Charlie Gibson blew it, big time. Apparently he doesn't even know what the 'Bush Doctrine' even is. Preemption isn't a factor of the Bush Doctrine because it's already implicit in the Doctrine of Self Defense. Bad form and bad journalism on Gibson's part. When Gibson asked the question, I wasn't sure exactly what the Bush Doctrine was. There were a couple of different notions associated with it and I wasn't sure there was a single one that was the Bush Doctrine. I assumed that I was just ignorant, and that Gibson was trying to trip up Palin. Read more: 'Sarah Palin and the Bush Doctrine' By Mike Rappaport The Right Coast, September 11, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5yfy83 The main elements of the Bush Doctrine were delineated in a National Security Council document, National Security Strategy of the United States, published on September 20, 2002,[5] and this document is often cited as the definitive statement of the doctrine. Bush Doctrine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine
[FairfieldLife] Palin wins over Obama women
USA Today/Gallup: McCain 54 Obama 44 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/ If Mr Obama should be in any doubt how gravely the Alaska governor's vice-presidential nomination has imperiled his White House ambitions, then a day spent in Macomb County will make this clear: white women who voted for John Kerry in 2004 are suddenly deserting him on masse. Read more: 'Palin wins over Obama women' By Tim Reid Times Online, September 12, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/4mqvht
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
Rick, the forum moderator, has been sending you photos of the Palin family by email? WTF? Rick, sorry for outing you. That was not my intention. In context, my post was about my brother and how this election has given me a better understanding of him. Rick helped bring his story into focus for me and that is the only reason I mentioned it. About my brother: ...Hillary's populous campaign made me aware, having lived in Fairfield's bubble for almost 30-years, of how out of touch I had become with my own working class roots. My brother isn't very educated, he is a Union man, bowls in tournaments, shoots pool, smokes, drinks beer, gets drunk, tells off color jokes, and takes care of a disabled wife. He is a devoted Democrat and proudly served in Vietnam. He loves our country. He is your typical red neck. We don't talk much but the love is there. I get emails from him complaining about illegal aliens taking jobs, about 2nd amendment rights, about desecration of the flag, about soldiers serving in Iraq, and about school prayer. He is not a swing voter, but the Republicans are more than happy to address his concerns. Before Hillary's campaign I thought, I'm an educated post graduate person, I have meditated for almost 40 years and know a lot about life. I now ask how can I judge myself to be more knowledgeable about life or to know better who deserves my vote than my red neck brother who never finished high school but whose life experiences I will never feel as he has. Although I agree with WillyTex for different reasons about the smears on Palin, I think he may have missed the substance of my post. But I do agree the volume of viral email smears on Palin in such a short span of time is one for the Guinness Book of Records. Keep it up guys and sink your candidate.
[FairfieldLife] Technology for Manifesting Intentions - reminder
Reminder Technology for Manifesting Intentions Friday Sept. 19th at 7:30 pm at Revelations Coffee House. “Pick something great to do and do it!” “Give the future a direction” -His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi This is a fellowship group focused on doing exactly what the master has asked us to do. It is not in any way a deviation from the TM or TM Sidhi program. It is simply a way for people with a specific vision, and who are of like mind, to support one another in the use of the tools of consciousness to manifest our full potential and greatest dreams. Using techniques outlined in films like The Secret and What the Bleep Do We Know, we apply our imagination and waking thoughts in ways that are supported and furthered by natural law. I am looking to create a core group of 6-10 people who want to take this manifestation technology to the next level and really see it happen in their lives. Please call me if you have any questions: Susan Sayler 760 687-5911.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin wins over Obama women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Mr Obama should be in any doubt how gravely the Alaska governor's vice-presidential nomination has imperiled his White House ambitions, then a day spent in Macomb County will make this clear: white women who voted for John Kerry in 2004 are suddenly deserting him on masse. Read more: 'Palin wins over Obama women' By Tim Reid Times Online, September 12, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/4mqvht My brother lives in Mt. Clemens. This is the demographic I have been yammering about. Times Online: This is Mount Clemens, in the heart of Macomb County, where the pollster Stan Greenberg first identified the phenomenon of the Reagan Democrats the working-class, socially conservative, traditionally Democratic whites who deserted the party for Ronald Reagan in 1980. It is fair to say that this critical swing group now has a new name: Palin Democrats.
[FairfieldLife] Lynda Carter (Wonder Woman) on Sarah Palin
Interview for Philly Magazine: Excerpt: VICTOR FIORILLO: Okay, last question. I'm sure you've seen all the comparisons in the media and among Republicans of Sarah Palin to Wonder Woman. How do you feel about that? LYNDA CARTER: Don't get me started. She's the anti-Wonder Woman. She's judgmental and dictatorial, telling people how they've got to live their lives. And a superior religious self-righteousness that's just not what Wonder Woman is about. Hillary Clinton is a lot more like Wonder Woman than Mrs. Palin. She did it all, didn't she? No one has the right to dictate, particularly in this country, to force your own personal views upon the populace religious views. I think that is suppressive, oppressive, and anti-American. We are the loyal opposition. That's the whole point of this country: freedom of speech, personal rights, personal freedom. Nor would Wonder Woman be the person to tell people how to live their lives. Worry about your own life! Worry about your own family! Don't be telling me what I want to do with mine. I like John McCain. But this woman it's anathema to me what she stands for. I think America should be very afraid. Very afraid. Separation of church and state is the one thing the creators of the Constitution did agree on that it wasn't to be a religious government. People should feel free to speak their minds about religion but not dictate it or put it into law. What I don't understand, honestly, is how anyone can even begin to say they know the mind of God. Who do they think they are? I think that's ridiculous. I know what God is in my life. Now I am sure that she's not all just that. But it's enough to me. It's enough for me to have a visceral reaction. And it makes me mad. People need to speak up. Doesn't mean that I'm godless. Doesn't mean that I am a murderer. What I hate is this demonization of everybody but one position. You're un-American because you're against the war. It's such bullshit. Fear. It's really such a finite way of thinking about God to think that your measley little mind can know the mind of God. It's a very little God that way. I think that God's bigger. I don't presume to know his mind. Or her mind. http://www.phillymag.com/arts_entertainment/articles/whats_what_with_lynda_carter/ or, http://tinyurl.com/4qtbyq
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynda Carter (Wonder Woman) on Sarah Palin
Lynda Carter is hardly a non-partisan. Her husband was a long-time associate of Clark Clifford who was the top adviser to Democrat presidents and the Democrat Party for decades. Indeed, they were so close that they were indicted and tried together in a sensational bank fraud case a number of years back (both were acquited if I remember correctly). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interview for Philly Magazine: Excerpt: VICTOR FIORILLO: Okay, last question. I'm sure you've seen all the comparisons in the media and among Republicans of Sarah Palin to Wonder Woman. How do you feel about that? LYNDA CARTER: Don't get me started. She's the anti-Wonder Woman. She's judgmental and dictatorial, telling people how they've got to live their lives. And a superior religious self-righteousness that's just not what Wonder Woman is about. Hillary Clinton is a lot more like Wonder Woman than Mrs. Palin. She did it all, didn't she? No one has the right to dictate, particularly in this country, to force your own personal views upon the populace religious views. I think that is suppressive, oppressive, and anti-American. We are the loyal opposition. That's the whole point of this country: freedom of speech, personal rights, personal freedom. Nor would Wonder Woman be the person to tell people how to live their lives. Worry about your own life! Worry about your own family! Don't be telling me what I want to do with mine. I like John McCain. But this woman it's anathema to me what she stands for. I think America should be very afraid. Very afraid. Separation of church and state is the one thing the creators of the Constitution did agree on that it wasn't to be a religious government. People should feel free to speak their minds about religion but not dictate it or put it into law. What I don't understand, honestly, is how anyone can even begin to say they know the mind of God. Who do they think they are? I think that's ridiculous. I know what God is in my life. Now I am sure that she's not all just that. But it's enough to me. It's enough for me to have a visceral reaction. And it makes me mad. People need to speak up. Doesn't mean that I'm godless. Doesn't mean that I am a murderer. What I hate is this demonization of everybody but one position. You're un-American because you're against the war. It's such bullshit. Fear. It's really such a finite way of thinking about God to think that your measley little mind can know the mind of God. It's a very little God that way. I think that God's bigger. I don't presume to know his mind. Or her mind. http://www.phillymag.com/arts_entertainment/articles/whats_what_with_l ynda_carter/ or, http://tinyurl.com/4qtbyq
[FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Matt Damon, bullshit artist --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.searchme.com/#/0/ http://www.searchme.com/#/0/ http://www.searchme.com/#/0/pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448 http://www.searchme.com/#/0/pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448 F pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448F C61D4D 3B2FF77E257D06F3A27CF2284EB59/vs=stacksState/ In the video, Matt Damon says if you look up the actuarial tables there is a one in three chance that McCain will die within the next four years. Damon then boldly challenges us to do the actuarial tables. Well, I did...and Damon is off...WAY off. The actuarial tables supplied by the U.S. government indicate a one in seven chance, NOT a one in three chance, as Damon claims. Take a look at http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/table4c6.html http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/table4c6.html If you add up the four years for males from ages 72 to 75 you get 0.151985 which translates to about 1/7th or one in 7. Did you factor in his several bouts with serious skin cancer? He had a growth removed just a month or so ago. No, I didn't. There are, literally, dozens of variables aside from age and gender (the only two variables in the actuarial charts I linked to above) that are factored into an individual's actuarial rating and, yes, cancer history is an important one. Another one is the lifespan of one's parents; for example McCain's 96 year old mother, who is still alive. But what about McCain's real father, who died at the time of conception? OffWorld I had never heard of that but if true then, yes, this is a factor that must be included along with all the other several dozen factors in coming up with an actuarial profile for John McCain.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynda Carter (Wonder Woman) on Sarah Palin
One ignoramus being judgmental about another ignoramus. How edifying. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interview for Philly Magazine: Excerpt: VICTOR FIORILLO: Okay, last question. I'm sure you've seen all the comparisons in the media and among Republicans of Sarah Palin to Wonder Woman. How do you feel about that? LYNDA CARTER: Don't get me started. She's the anti-Wonder Woman. She's judgmental and dictatorial, telling people how they've got to live their lives. And a superior religious self-righteousness that's just not what Wonder Woman is about. Love to see Carter quote Palin telling people how they've got to live their lives, or being religiously self-righteous. Anybody? Buehler? Hillary Clinton is a lot more like Wonder Woman than Mrs. Palin. She did it all, didn't she? No one has the right to dictate, particularly in this country, to force your own personal views upon the populace religious views. Actually, the only personal view she's shown the slightest inclination of forcing on the populace-- at least that I've heard about--concerns abortion. And guess what? That is *not* necessarily a religious view. On the other hand, if you are absolutely convinced that abortion is murder, based on religious belief or not, *of course* you're going to try to get it banned, just as those of us who believe capital punishment is murder are trying to get *it* banned. snip What I don't understand, honestly, is how anyone can even begin to say they know the mind of God. Who do they think they are? I think that's ridiculous. I know what God is in my life. Now I am sure that she's not all just that. But it's enough to me. It's enough for me to have a visceral reaction. And it makes me mad. I would never presume to know God's will or to speak God's words.--Sarah Palin in her ABC interview snip It's really such a finite way of thinking about God to think that your measley little mind can know the mind of God. It's a very little God that way. I think that God's bigger. I don't presume to know his mind. Or her mind. Or even what she's said, it would seem.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynda Carter (Wonder Woman) on Sarah Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lynda Carter is hardly a non-partisan. Her husband was a long-time associate of Clark Clifford who was the top adviser to Democrat presidents and the Democrat Party for decades. Indeed, they were so close that they were indicted and tried together in a sensational bank fraud case a number of years back (both were acquited if I remember correctly). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Interview for Philly Magazine: Excerpt: VICTOR FIORILLO: Okay, last question. I'm sure you've seen all the comparisons in the media and among Republicans of Sarah Palin to Wonder Woman. How do you feel about that? LYNDA CARTER: Don't get me started. She's the anti-Wonder Woman. She's judgmental and dictatorial, telling people how they've got to live their lives. And a superior religious self-righteousness that's just not what Wonder Woman is about. Hillary Clinton is a lot more like Wonder Woman than Mrs. Palin. She did it all, didn't she? No one has the right to dictate, particularly in this country, to force your own personal views upon the populace religious views. I think that is suppressive, oppressive, and anti-American. We are the loyal opposition. That's the whole point of this country: freedom of speech, personal rights, personal freedom. Nor would Wonder Woman be the person to tell people how to live their lives. Worry about your own life! Worry about your own family! Don't be telling me what I want to do with mine. I like John McCain. But this woman it's anathema to me what she stands for. I think America should be very afraid. Very afraid. Separation of church and state is the one thing the creators of the Constitution did agree on that it wasn't to be a religious government. People should feel free to speak their minds about religion but not dictate it or put it into law. What I don't understand, honestly, is how anyone can even begin to say they know the mind of God. Who do they think they are? I think that's ridiculous. I know what God is in my life. Now I am sure that she's not all just that. But it's enough to me. It's enough for me to have a visceral reaction. And it makes me mad. People need to speak up. Doesn't mean that I'm godless. Doesn't mean that I am a murderer. What I hate is this demonization of everybody but one position. You're un-American because you're against the war. It's such bullshit. Fear. It's really such a finite way of thinking about God to think that your measley little mind can know the mind of God. It's a very little God that way. I think that God's bigger. I don't presume to know his mind. Or her mind. http://www.phillymag.com/arts_entertainment/articles/whats_what_with_l ynda_carter/ or, http://tinyurl.com/4qtbyq
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig
snip What is so impossible about seeing that the pig in lipstick kerfuffle is about Palin, when Obama's audience absolutely got it? The line brings laughs every time it has been used including when McCain used it when speaking about Hillary. It is a zinger line that gets laughs just as Palin's line did, folksy wisdom, like a Mark Twain one-liner always brings laughs. You cannot detect from the laughter what the audience was thinking. Calling someone a pig is a stupid insult but using it as a way to illustrate the McCain change bullshittery was clever and was what Obama obviously meant. I can understand the rumor mongers trying to manufacture controversy out of this but more thoughtful people like Judy and yourself joining in the fray makes we really wonder, WTF? The reason they whooped and hollered grandly was not because he slammed McCain. Psychic hotline is closed. The line got a laugh. It was meant to. That is what we know. That intensity of response could only have happened because his little in joke was about Palin. It always gets a laugh. Even FOx news has backed off this absurd premise. His sneaky insults have become an art form. As has your reading in hidden meanings. No, Hillary supporters are not crazy or hysterics. And I hope you are not insinuating that Judy, in not so veiled code, needs to get laid. At least your are consistent. Everything has a veiled meaning that you can read. Got it. That would be about as helpful as your cure for the ladies who have probably been faking it. True colors showing. There are too many quacks waddling around here. If I need help, I'll see http://tinyurl.com/6nvl5b Lot of bluff and bluster in our posts. I'm still trying to figure out if the tone is all tongue in cheek of if you are just a caustic personality like Richard. I'll keep reading and time will tell. Again, I strongly suspect Obama knew exactly what he was saying. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: It's difficult to explain away Obama's lipstick on a pig remark that he wasn't referring to Palin. But, what follows is equally damning in Obama's own words, You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, it's still gonna stink after eight years. Women get it that Obama was referring to a woman's lady-parts as stinky fish. Obama just lost the election. Bets are on. Dude, you are being the sexist, disgusting, pig here. I'm guessing you haven't had much actual contact with the opposite sex if that is your immediate association. In the first place, raunchydog isn't a dude, she's a dame. In the second place, you're fortunate if you've never encountered the insulting association of smelly old fish with a woman. Sorry to be clinical, but it's a reference to menstrual blood, which does smell a little fishy as it's drying. It's a slightly elderly association from pre-Tampax days when the odor was much more of a problem for menstruating women. No older woman would fail to recognize that association, and older women, of course, are Hillary's base, those who may be most tempted to vote for McCain because of Palin. Again, I strongly suspect Obama knew exactly what he was saying.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynda Carter (Wonder Woman) on Sarah Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Lynda Carter is hardly a non-partisan. LYNDA CARTER: I like John McCain. But this woman it's anathema to me what she stands for.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just another smear by the liberal, misogynist, media who can't stand that a woman of true values and integrity with a plastic Jesus in her heart has stepped-up to the plate and hit a grandslam for the red,white and blue! Go Alaska! --- On Sat, 9/13/08, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 6:05 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Matt Damon, bullshit artist --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.searchme.com/#/0/ http://www.searchme.com/#/0/pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448 F pi=11/stack=19fee/ci=all/session=0448F C61D4D 3B2FF77E257D06F3A27CF2284EB59/vs=stacksState/ In the video, Matt Damon says if you look up the actuarial tables there is a one in three chance that McCain will die within the next four years. Damon then boldly challenges us to do the actuarial tables. Well, I did...and Damon is off...WAY off. The actuarial tables supplied by the U.S. government indicate a one in seven chance, NOT a one in three chance, as Damon claims. Take a look at http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/table4c6.html If you add up the four years for males from ages 72 to 75 you get 0.151985 which translates to about 1/7th or one in 7. Did you factor in his several bouts with serious skin cancer? He had a growth removed just a month or so ago. No, I didn't. There are, literally, dozens of variables aside from age and gender (the only two variables in the actuarial charts I linked to above) that are factored into an individual's actuarial rating and, yes, cancer history is an important one. Another one is the lifespan of one's parents; for example McCain's 96 year old mother, who is still alive. However, one cannot take ALL the variables and make an effective rating for a given individual without having access to one's full medical records and history. I doubt the Hollywood star Matt Damon had access to those. Absent those records, one can only rely upon the general age/gender actuarial tables, which is what I linked to. By the way, another factor that would have to be considered would be profession. Professions such as airline pilot or trapeze artist gets special ratings (i.e. costs extra premium on an insurance policy). And, of course, one of the most dangerous jobs in the world is president of the United States because of 43 that have existed, 4 have been assassinated. But that rating would apply not only to McCain but to Obama as well. Damon probably meant that McCain had a 1 in 3 chance of dying over the period of 8 years, which is two terms as president. That would have been more accurate, but Damon made specific reference to one term. And, of course, a candidate for president only runs for one term at a time. He probably misread: http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=253B8DF9-18FE-70B2- A8961A86DC5B16C7 Yes, I think you're right, Spare Egg. As I surmised in a separate response to Rick Archer, Damon's 1 in 3 figure only works if one is considering 8 years, which is two presidential terms in office. Of course, candidates only run for one term at a time. Thanks for finding that Politico.com link as I think it was the cause of Damon's confusion which, of course, caused his reasoning to be off by 133%. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
But I do agree the volume of viral email smears on Palin in such a short span of time is one for the Guinness Book of Records. Actually that record still stands. It was the more than twenty million emails I received and continue to receive from my republican relatives concerning Obama being a secret Muslim who will hand our country over to the terrorists as soon as he is elected. Saying that Palin is not ready for this job is not a smear. Were you satisfied with her answers in her first interview with Gibson? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, the forum moderator, has been sending you photos of the Palin family by email? WTF? Rick, sorry for outing you. That was not my intention. In context, my post was about my brother and how this election has given me a better understanding of him. Rick helped bring his story into focus for me and that is the only reason I mentioned it. About my brother: ...Hillary's populous campaign made me aware, having lived in Fairfield's bubble for almost 30-years, of how out of touch I had become with my own working class roots. My brother isn't very educated, he is a Union man, bowls in tournaments, shoots pool, smokes, drinks beer, gets drunk, tells off color jokes, and takes care of a disabled wife. He is a devoted Democrat and proudly served in Vietnam. He loves our country. He is your typical red neck. We don't talk much but the love is there. I get emails from him complaining about illegal aliens taking jobs, about 2nd amendment rights, about desecration of the flag, about soldiers serving in Iraq, and about school prayer. He is not a swing voter, but the Republicans are more than happy to address his concerns. Before Hillary's campaign I thought, I'm an educated post graduate person, I have meditated for almost 40 years and know a lot about life. I now ask how can I judge myself to be more knowledgeable about life or to know better who deserves my vote than my red neck brother who never finished high school but whose life experiences I will never feel as he has. Although I agree with WillyTex for different reasons about the smears on Palin, I think he may have missed the substance of my post. But I do agree the volume of viral email smears on Palin in such a short span of time is one for the Guinness Book of Records. Keep it up guys and sink your candidate.
[FairfieldLife] Rick can't be outed, was: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
Rick, sorry for outing you. That was not my intention. In context, my post was about my brother and how this election has given me a better understanding of him. Rick helped bring his story into focus for me and that is the only reason I mentioned it. About my brother: I can't be outed because I'm already out. I use my real name here. In addition to my FFL indulgence, I have a humor list with about 500 people on it to which I send things that strike me as funny or interesting and a political list with about 150 people on it to which I send lefty political stuff. RaunchyDog happens to be on the latter and maybe the former as well. These are not chat groups like FFL - just email lists. If anyone reading this would like to be put on one or both of them, let me know by private email.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin's Demon Haunted Churches
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: There were 4 of these voodoo Christians outside the dome at program time years ago, chanting off to the side. A negative energy came from them and hit me in the stomach as I walked innocently by. Maybe that's why Palin *left* this church some years ago and now attends a nondenominational church that isn't so extreme. Ya think? Which church is that? Which one are you asking about, the one she left or the one she attends now? She used to attend the Wasilla Assembly of God. She now attends Wasilla Bible Church, which is nondenominational: http://www.wasillabible.org/index.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Tastings
On Sep 13, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: The problem with this teaching-as-a-gift model is that it's not sustainable. Well it has been, at least for a couple of millenia. One of the shining examples of such an approach, is the Vipassana awakening schools of Goenka. Wanna awaken? Go to a free 10 DAY meditation retreat, lodging and food included. After ten days, if you liked it or got something out of it, you donate some money; what's comfortable for you. Total sliding scale. Not only has this model been sustainable, it's been extremely successful with courses selling out faster than new courses can be scheduled. Thousands have begun to awake because of it, so that makes it naturally self-sustaining. It also has been applied and worked in some of the most deplorable conditions imaginable, like the most notorious prisons in India (as detailed in the documentary Doing Time, Doing Vipassana). It also proved that the most imprisoned souls can be begin to awake, even if society sees it fit to separate them from that society. Compassion in action, not just a way to tap into federal or state dollars (that would be applied greed). And this is just one example. The Shambhala tradition is another that teaches nondual meditation for free, in a number of different approaches, as the student integrates more and more. And they have an incredible infrastructure globally despite the fact their meditation is taught for free.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do agree the volume of viral email smears on Palin in such a short span of time is one for the Guinness Book of Records. snip Saying that Palin is not ready for this job is not a smear. Did raunchydog say that was a smear? I don't believe so. I'd guess she's talking about smears like the list of books that Palin allegedly banned when she was mayor of Wasilla. Actually it's a list of all the books that have been banned in the U.S. at one time or another, a number of them published well after Palin was mayor. I received that one from my best friend, who got it from a minister of her acquaintance, who got it from someone at UCLA, all of whom accepted it without question as accurate. (Palin didn't ban any books; she merely asked the librarian how she would react if she were asked to remove books. Nor did Palin threaten to fire the librarian for not being willing to do so.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain doesn't khow to send an e-mail
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/43tnrb Chime in boyz. We may need to be careful about this one. According to a story in the Boston Globe back in 2000, the injuries McCain suffered as a POW make it impossible for him to use a keyboard. This was well before the question of his not knowing how to send email ever arose. Of course, if he were really interested, there's most likely some software or hardware designed for people who can't use their hands to type. But that he doesn't know how to send email seems like a pretty petty complaint given all the other more important complaints there are about him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: But I do agree the volume of viral email smears on Palin in such a short span of time is one for the Guinness Book of Records. snip Saying that Palin is not ready for this job is not a smear. Did raunchydog say that was a smear? I don't believe so. I'd guess she's talking about smears like the list of books that Palin allegedly banned when she was mayor of Wasilla. Actually it's a list of all the books that have been banned in the U.S. at one time or another, a number of them published well after Palin was mayor. I received that one from my best friend, who got it from a minister of her acquaintance, who got it from someone at UCLA, all of whom accepted it without question as accurate. (Palin didn't ban any books; she merely asked the librarian how she would react if she were asked to remove books. Nor did Palin threaten to fire the librarian for not being willing to do so.) Then why DID Palin fire the librarian [who was later re-instated after public outrage]?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Tastings
On Sep 13, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Vaj wrote: It also has been applied and worked in some of the most deplorable conditions imaginable, like the most notorious prisons in India (as detailed in the documentary Doing Time, Doing Vipassana). http://www.box.net/shared/lk8mpmg1pm
[FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin - Book Banning - and the Firing Librarian
ABC report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuuRMIjgxCM
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I strongly suspect Obama knew exactly what he was saying. The metaphor he used has an obvious meaning. To try to connect this with a disgusting slur on women is such a stretch that I am amazed you could believe it. I can understand the right wing using it as a cynical tactic, but you surprise me here. As I said in my other post, there are plenty of things to go after Obama for. But this kind of connection seems completely crazy to me. I'm not as sure about the fish reference as I am about the lipstick one, but I really wouldn't put it past him. Both metaphors have an obvious meaning. That isn't the issue. The issue is whether he picked metaphors with obvious meanings to disguise less-obvious nasty swipes at Palin in order to give himself plausible deniability. And as I said, these are far from the only two instances from him of this sort of thing; it appears to be a habit. It's symptomatic of a broader contempt for women, especially working-class women, which he's shown in his refusal to reach out to Clinton's supporters, dismissing them by saying they'll get over it and vote for him because there's nowhere else for them to go. And if they don't, that's OK because he doesn't need their votes.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:51 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig It's symptomatic of a broader contempt for women, especially working-class women, You mean like the women he worked with as a community organizer on the South side of Chicago instead of taking a high-paying job?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sittin' in the Budda Bar, sippin' Dharma
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip With any luck, and at this rate, the four of them will be gone by Monday, and the rest of the posting week at Fairfield Life will be as much of a party environment as the town of Sitges is this weekend. The rest of us will have fun and actually have a few pleasant conversations, while the BPD compulsives are off in some dark funk feeling persecuted because they can't fantasize about persecuting us any more. Barry, dear, that's *your* fantasy. Man, how hard up for fulfilling thoughts do you have to be to fantasize about what people you don't like are fantasizing? The question is, why do *you* feel so persecuted? Don't you even realize how much persecuting *you* do, every damn week? Have you ever noticed how many of your posts that begin with determinedly lighthearted odes to the joys of walking your dogs or sitting in cafes watching women end up attacking some person or group (as in the one I'm responding to)? Have you ever noticed how few pleasant conversations you actually have here, despite your constant bloviation about how wonderful it is to be able to have them?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: But I do agree the volume of viral email smears on Palin in such a short span of time is one for the Guinness Book of Records. snip Saying that Palin is not ready for this job is not a smear. Did raunchydog say that was a smear? I don't believe so. No she didn't. I was making the point that the most important information going out about her has nothing to do with smears. I think the clarification about the library books question is important. I work with schools and PTA members and have heard stories about how most are approached to ban certain books by super religious people. I heard that she just asked the librarian what the procedure was and didn't pursue it. I don't think that would fly too well in independent Alaska. But it is not a bad line to keep an eye on for anyone in a position of power. I understand that people, myself included have to be careful about jumping to conclusions about her. But I have some experience with people who are as outspokenly religious as Palin and so her positions are not completely unexpected. She doesn't believe in abortion in the case of incest or rape. This is an extreme position even for a pro-lifer. I saw her answer this question so I am sure this is not a smear. I checked out her new church's beliefs from the Website you included, thanks for that. Given their stated relationship to scripture I have a few areas of culture (gay rights for one) that I will be watching her words very carefully on. I'd guess she's talking about smears like the list of books that Palin allegedly banned when she was mayor of Wasilla. Actually it's a list of all the books that have been banned in the U.S. at one time or another, a number of them published well after Palin was mayor. I received that one from my best friend, who got it from a minister of her acquaintance, who got it from someone at UCLA, all of whom accepted it without question as accurate. (Palin didn't ban any books; she merely asked the librarian how she would react if she were asked to remove books. Nor did Palin threaten to fire the librarian for not being willing to do so.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: My thoughts exactly, except for the stuff about her being hot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Seitzman Sarah Palin Naked snip Vote for someone smarter than you. Vote for someone who inspires you. Vote for someone who has not only traveled the world but who has also shown a deep understanding and compassion for it. Unfortunately, the Democrats failed to nominate her.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Tastings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam wrote: The problem with this teaching-as-a-gift model is that it's not sustainable. I beg to differ. It's how a couple of tradi- tional Tibetan sanghas I've interacted with have sustained themselves for centuries. The key is size, and no one in the organiza- tion getting paid. No one. This includes the head teacher, if there is one. He or she has a Day Job and works for a living, too. Plus, none of the three or four organizations I've had personal experience with that teach for free has ever had any desire to get big. They have no staff, they have no accountants, they have no real expenses *except* the rooms they teach in and the ads and teaching materials. And they like things that way. Introduce the grandiose and (some would say) megalomaniacal desire to save the world, and you have the TMO. You're right - the issue with free teaching is not sustainability, but scalability. Good correction. I disagree with you, however, that it's a bad thing to scale up an organization that teaches meditation. The problem with Maharishi's organization was not its scale but its ideology. If we forget about saving the world for a moment, I feel it was a really cool thing for non-seekers to learn a simple technique that enriched their lives. It was cool for TM to be widely available. It was neat for a TMer to be able to get checked in Marshalltown and Iowa City and Fort Collins and Columbia and Wilton, let alone St. Louis and Chicago and Boston. What I resent about the story of the TMO was not its scale, but the orthodoxy that destroyed that scale. Of course, it was that sense of mission that scaled up the organization in the first place, so what zeal giveth, zeal apparently taketh away.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote for Keith Olberman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: snip Bet you anything who the private email was from... Sal, you really should refrain from betting on your intuitions, 'cause your intuition muscle is awfully flabby. I hereby give Rick permission to announce it publicly here if I emailed him about raunchydog. Over to you, Sal. Do you have the guts to ask him? Feeling threatened by strong woman Sal Judy? Certainly sounds like it. No, actually I sometimes feel guilty for pounding on Sal, because she's so pathetically helpless. It's like beating up on a cripple. It's just that she's such an *obnoxious* cripple. She should stick to her bons mots. She's pretty good at those. Notice that she hasn't dared to ask Rick whether I emailed him about raunchydog. She *hasn't* got the guts. Nor does she have the guts to admit she was wrong, much less to apologize.
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig
It's symptomatic of a broader contempt for women, especially working-class women, which he's shown in his refusal to reach out to Clinton's supporters, Contempt for woman? Wow! I think you are way off here Judy. But that is the great thing about political discussions, we all have our POV. I would buy the fact that he doesn't like Hillary and vise versa, and I'm sure they both have pretty good reasons for feeling that way. Personally I think this kind of extreme criticism is as distracting to examining his true faults as all the sexist discussion about Palin. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Again, I strongly suspect Obama knew exactly what he was saying. The metaphor he used has an obvious meaning. To try to connect this with a disgusting slur on women is such a stretch that I am amazed you could believe it. I can understand the right wing using it as a cynical tactic, but you surprise me here. As I said in my other post, there are plenty of things to go after Obama for. But this kind of connection seems completely crazy to me. I'm not as sure about the fish reference as I am about the lipstick one, but I really wouldn't put it past him. Both metaphors have an obvious meaning. That isn't the issue. The issue is whether he picked metaphors with obvious meanings to disguise less-obvious nasty swipes at Palin in order to give himself plausible deniability. And as I said, these are far from the only two instances from him of this sort of thing; it appears to be a habit. It's symptomatic of a broader contempt for women, especially working-class women, which he's shown in his refusal to reach out to Clinton's supporters, dismissing them by saying they'll get over it and vote for him because there's nowhere else for them to go. And if they don't, that's OK because he doesn't need their votes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: The issue is whether he picked metaphors with obvious meanings to disguise less-obvious nasty swipes at Palin in order to give himself plausible deniability. And as I said, these are far from the only two instances from him of this sort of thing; it appears to be a habit. I saw this in the comments at The Confluence from riverdaughter http://tinyurl.com/6hcz8y enjoy Brush left shoulder Brush right shoulder Middle finger to left temple Middle finger to right temple Look down your nose to the left Look down your nose to the right Jump and quarter turn HEYYY BARACKARENA Music: http://tinyurl.com/2xoenu
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (Palin didn't ban any books; she merely asked the librarian how she would react if she were asked to remove books. Nor did Palin threaten to fire the librarian for not being willing to do so.) Then why DID Palin fire the librarian [who was later re-instated after public outrage]? She was reinstated the next day, actually. From FactCheck.org: Palin initially requested Emmons' resignation, along with those of Wasilla's other department heads, in October 1996. Palin described the requests as a loyalty test and allowed all of them (except one, whose department she was eliminating) to retain their positions. But in January 1997, Palin fired Emmons, along with the police chief. According to the Chicago Tribune, Palin did not list censorship as a reason for Emmons' firing, but said she didn't feel she had Emmons' support. The decision caused 'a stir' in the small town, according to a newspaper account at the time. According to a widely circulated e- mail from Kilkenny, 'city residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter.' As we've noted, Palin did not attempt to ban any library books. We don't know if Emmons' resistance to Palin's questions about possible censorship had anything to do with Emmons' firing. And we have no idea if the protests had any impact on Palin at all. There simply isn't any evidence that we can find either way. Palin did re-hire Emmons the following day, saying that she now felt she had the librarian's backing. Emmons continued to serve as librarian until August 1999, when the Chicago Tribune reports that she resigned. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html The librarian now refuses to talk about the incident, other than to say she doesn't recall Palin citing the titles of any books to be considered for removal. And the librarian never claimed that Palin threatened to fire her over her refusal to consider removing books.
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:51 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig It's symptomatic of a broader contempt for women, especially working-class women, You mean like the women he worked with as a community organizer on the South side of Chicago instead of taking a high-paying job? Non sequitur.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Technology for Manifesting Intentions - reminder
No dome for you, my mala covered samsarini! --- On Sat, 9/13/08, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Technology for Manifesting Intentions - reminder To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:46 AM Reminder Technology for Manifesting Intentions Friday Sept. 19th at 7:30 pm at Revelations Coffee House. “Pick something great to do and do it!” “Give the future a direction” -His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi This is a fellowship group focused on doing exactly what the master has asked us to do. It is not in any way a deviation from the TM or TM Sidhi program. It is simply a way for people with a specific vision, and who are of like mind, to support one another in the use of the tools of consciousness to manifest our full potential and greatest dreams. Using techniques outlined in films like The Secret and What the Bleep Do We Know, we apply our imagination and waking thoughts in ways that are supported and furthered by natural law. I am looking to create a core group of 6-10 people who want to take this manifestation technology to the next level and really see it happen in their lives. Please call me if you have any questions: Susan Sayler 760 687-5911.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin wins over Obama women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: If Mr Obama should be in any doubt how gravely the Alaska governor's vice-presidential nomination has imperiled his White House ambitions, then a day spent in Macomb County will make this clear: white women who voted for John Kerry in 2004 are suddenly deserting him on masse. Read more: 'Palin wins over Obama women' By Tim Reid Times Online, September 12, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/4mqvht My brother lives in Mt. Clemens. This is the demographic I have been yammering about. Times Online: This is Mount Clemens, in the heart of Macomb County, where the pollster Stan Greenberg first identified the phenomenon of the Reagan Democrats the working-class, socially conservative, traditionally Democratic whites who deserted the party for Ronald Reagan in 1980. It is fair to say that this critical swing group now has a new name: Palin Democrats. It doesn't matter who they vote for because both parties are in the pockets of big business, and they'll get screwed over by McCain just like they got screwed over by Bush and Clinton. The way Obama has flip-flopped hard to the right, I think he's just as capable of pushing for NAFTA-style middle class destruction as Hillary.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynda Carter (Wonder Woman) on Sarah Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Actually, the only personal view she's shown the slightest inclination of forcing on the populace-- at least that I've heard about--concerns abortion. And guess what? That is *not* necessarily a religious view. On the other hand, if you are absolutely convinced that abortion is murder, based on religious belief or not, *of course* you're going to try to get it banned, just as those of us who believe capital punishment is murder are trying to get *it* banned. [snip] ...and I would presume that, even then, her position on abortion would be to overturn Roe v. Wade. But what overturning Roe v. Wade would do is simply turn it over to the individual 50 states to decide, which is where many experts feel it should have been left in the first place. Before the case was handed down by the Supreme Court in 1973 there were numerous states that allowed abortions. Interestingly, if memory serves me correctly, liberal New York State wasn't one of them; New York had had a pro-choice law but the state legislature overturned it at some point before Roe v. Wade was handed down. But I think that the whole emphasis on questioning candidates for president and VP stand on this issue and who they would therefore appoint to the Supreme Court is way overblown in terms of importance. Why? Because since Roe v Wade became law in 1973, 22 of those 35 years has seen a pro-life Republican president in office; of the 12 years held by Democrats, four of those years were administered by Jimmy Carter who is more pro-life than any of those Republicans. So 26 of the 35 years since Roe v. Wade were overseen by pro-life, anti-abortion presidents. 7 of the 9 current sitting Justices on the Supremme Court were appointed by those pro-life, anti-abortion Republican presidents. Yet in the 35 years since Roe V. Wade, of the 45 million abortions that has occured in the United States not one of those babies has been denied the pleasure of being sucked out of its mother's womb...DESPITE who was president. As George Will once observed: the president is not as powerful as people think he is...
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig
It's symptomatic of a broader contempt for women, especially working-class women, You mean like the women he worked with as a community organizer on the South side of Chicago instead of taking a high-paying job? Non sequitur. I think it is part of a long list of evidence against your claim. It includes his being raised by a single mom who he speaks of adoringly, married to a strong independent woman who relates to him as an equal during interviews, and his doting relationship with his two daughters. BTW if you read about the Mcain political culture you have much more ammo for a male dominant world which is why his pick came as such a surprise. Bush seemed to be much more comfortable working with women as his close relationship with Condi and Karen Hughes showed. So other than this dubious metaphor interpretation, what is your evidence that Obama has contempt for women?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rick can't be outed, was: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
--- On Sat, 9/13/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rick can't be outed, was: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine' To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:00 AM Rick, sorry for outing you. That was not my intention. In context, my post was about my brother and how this election has given me a better understanding of him. Rick helped bring his story into focus for me and that is the only reason I mentioned it. About my brother: I can’t be outed because I’m already out. I use my real name here. In addition to my FFL indulgence, I have a humor list with about 500 people on it to which I send things that strike me as funny or interesting and a political list with about 150 people on it to which I send lefty political stuff. RaunchyDog happens to be on the latter and maybe the former as well. These are not chat groups like FFL – just email lists. If anyone reading this would like to be put on one or both of them, let me know by private email. Rick, you got outed? Does your wife know about this? Is my mantra still good? ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Bush War Crimes Conference -- Live Video
Saturday morning, the dean of Massachusetts School of Law at Andover will convene a two day planning session with a single focus: To arrest, put to trial and carry out sentence on criminals in the Bush Administration. The conference, arranged by Lawrence Vevel, cofounder of the Andover school, will focus on which of Bush's officials and members of Congress could be charged with war crimes. The plan also calls for necessary organizational structures to be established, with the purpose of pursuing the guilty to the ends of the Earth. For Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and John Yoo to spend years in jail or go to the gallows for their crimes would be a powerful lesson to future American leaders, Velvel said in a media advisory. Rest of the story and live video feed here: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Andover_law_school_convenes_Bush_War_0913.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (Palin didn't ban any books; she merely asked the librarian how she would react if she were asked to remove books. Nor did Palin threaten to fire the librarian for not being willing to do so.) Then why DID Palin fire the librarian [who was later re-instated after public outrage]? She was reinstated the next day, actually. From FactCheck.org: Palin initially requested Emmons' resignation, along with those of Wasilla's other department heads, in October 1996. Palin described the requests as a loyalty test and allowed all of them (except one, whose department she was eliminating) to retain their positions. But in January 1997, Palin fired Emmons, along with the police chief. According to the Chicago Tribune, Palin did not list censorship as a reason for Emmons' firing, but said she didn't feel she had Emmons' support. The decision caused 'a stir' in the small town, according to a newspaper account at the time. According to a widely circulated e- mail from Kilkenny, 'city residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter.' As we've noted, Palin did not attempt to ban any library books. We don't know if Emmons' resistance to Palin's questions about possible censorship had anything to do with Emmons' firing. And we have no idea if the protests had any impact on Palin at all. There simply isn't any evidence that we can find either way. Palin did re-hire Emmons the following day, saying that she now felt she had the librarian's backing. Emmons continued to serve as librarian until August 1999, when the Chicago Tribune reports that she resigned. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html The librarian now refuses to talk about the incident, other than to say she doesn't recall Palin citing the titles of any books to be considered for removal. And the librarian never claimed that Palin threatened to fire her over her refusal to consider removing books. Thanks, Judy. I personally find it very arrogant, authoritarian, demeaning and creepy that Palin implemented 'loyalty tests' with the librarian and the other dept heads - as if Wasilla was *her* little club.
[FairfieldLife] Palin's Political Advisor's Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: But I do agree the volume of viral email smears on Palin in such a short span of time is one for the Guinness Book of Records. snip Saying that Palin is not ready for this job is not a smear. Did raunchydog say that was a smear? I don't believe so. No she didn't. I was making the point that the most important information going out about her has nothing to do with smears. I think the clarification about the library books question is important. I work with schools and PTA members and have heard stories about how most are approached to ban certain books by super religious people. I heard that she just asked the librarian what the procedure was and didn't pursue it. I don't think that would fly too well in independent Alaska. But it is not a bad line to keep an eye on for anyone in a position of power. I understand that people, myself included have to be careful about jumping to conclusions about her. But I have some experience with people who are as outspokenly religious as Palin and so her positions are not completely unexpected. She doesn't believe in abortion in the case of incest or rape. This is an extreme position even for a pro-lifer. Actually, it's the only *consistent* position for a pro-lifer. It suggests that she really is concerned with the sanctity of life rather than with curtailing women's sexual freedom. (And as I noted elsewhere, it's not *necessarily* a purely religious position. You don't have to be religious to be against abortion.) I saw her answer this question so I am sure this is not a smear. No, this isn't a smear. (That she curtailed funding for a home for pregnant teens is a smear.) As far as I'm aware, abortion is the *only* issue on which she has indicated any desire to impose her personal view on others; she's for the repeal of Roe vs. Wade, as I recall. But as I noted earlier, if you genuinely believe abortion is murder, *of course* you're going to be in favor of legislation or court decisions to prevent it. I checked out her new church's beliefs from the Website you included, thanks for that. Given their stated relationship to scripture I have a few areas of culture (gay rights for one) that I will be watching her words very carefully on. Might want to have a look at the transcript of an interview Fox's Greta Van Susteren had with the pastor of Palin's current church. It appears to me that he doesn't take the fundamentalist position that being gay is a choice, FWIW, nor does it look as though he believes prayer can change one's sexual orientation: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420093,00.html I'm reading somewhat between the lines here, but I get the distinct impression that although this pastor is a traditional fundamentalist Christian, he's more compassionate and thoughtful than most. I suspect he's struggling with the way the Bible passages dealing with homosexuality present it as a choice, because his experience with counseling gays seems to contradict this. Here's video of the interview: http://tinyurl.com/5wlzky (There are a lot of [unintelligibles] in the transcript, but the video is clearer, and you get to see what the guy is like personally.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Moodmaking as Enlightenment
On Sep 13, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Peter wrote: Vaj, this won't play with Mozilla. Do you have a url for it? -Peter Link You'll need to have Quicktime installed. It plays on Firefox and Safari for me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain doesn't khow to send an e-mail
http://tinyurl.com/43tnrb Chime in boyz. Judy wrote: We may need to be careful about this one. According to a story in the Boston Globe back in 2000, the injuries McCain suffered as a POW make it impossible for him to use a keyboard. This was well before the question of his not knowing how to send email ever arose. This is a new low for the Obama campaign, as if calling Sarah Palin a 'pig' wasn't serious enough. Now they've stooped to making fun of a handicapped person, a POW no less, and a candidate for president. Obama will be making a public apology on prime-time for this one, I predict. Obama is finished now - the contest is over. What a gaff!!! I've always thought that Barack Obama is unqualified for the office of President--he isn't qualified to be a Senator, either--but I've never thought he was particularly mean-spirited. Until now. Boston Globe: McCain's severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. Read more: 'Obama Gets Tough, Shoots Self In Head' Posted by John Hinderaker Powerline, September 12, 2008 http://www.powerlineblog.com/
[FairfieldLife] Gina Gershon Strips Down Sarah Palin
Gershon does her impression of Palin: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/61410aa4ff
[FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: I think he meant with 5 cancer operations, hypertension and a Type A personality... Lawson The election shall be a farce? Everything has been orchestrated, or whatever, in such a manner, that Sarah Palin shall become an ignoramus sock puppet president with no power to say what THE Boys should or shouldn't do? (?There's a government inside the government... -- Bill Clinton?) That thought HAS crossed my mind... Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain doesn't khow to send an e-mail
Two words, speech recognitions software. Been out for over a decade. The criticism about being computer illiterate is valid in this day and age. Or do you think the Internet is a bunch of tubes Richard? No one is making fun of his disability. In fact using his disability as an excuse is a disservice to the many disabled people who don't let their disabilities stop them from using technology. Stephen Hawking uses a computer very effectively. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/43tnrb Chime in boyz. Judy wrote: We may need to be careful about this one. According to a story in the Boston Globe back in 2000, the injuries McCain suffered as a POW make it impossible for him to use a keyboard. This was well before the question of his not knowing how to send email ever arose. This is a new low for the Obama campaign, as if calling Sarah Palin a 'pig' wasn't serious enough. Now they've stooped to making fun of a handicapped person, a POW no less, and a candidate for president. Obama will be making a public apology on prime-time for this one, I predict. Obama is finished now - the contest is over. What a gaff!!! I've always thought that Barack Obama is unqualified for the office of President--he isn't qualified to be a Senator, either--but I've never thought he was particularly mean-spirited. Until now. Boston Globe: McCain's severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. Read more: 'Obama Gets Tough, Shoots Self In Head' Posted by John Hinderaker Powerline, September 12, 2008 http://www.powerlineblog.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Technology for Manifesting Intentions - reminder
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reminder Technology for Manifesting Intentions Friday Sept. 19th at 7:30 pm at Revelations Coffee House. �Pick something great to do and do it!� �Give the future a direction� ��������������� -His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi This is a fellowship group focused on doing exactly what the master has asked us to do. It is not in any way a deviation from the TM or TM Sidhi program. It is simply a way for people with a specific vision, and who are of like mind, to support one another in the use of the tools of consciousness to manifest our full potential and greatest dreams. Using techniques outlined in films like The Secret and What the Bleep Do We Know, we apply our imagination and waking thoughts in ways that are supported and furthered by natural law. I am looking to create a core group of 6-10 people who want to take this manifestation technology to the next level and really see it happen in their lives. Please call me if you have any questions: Susan Sayler 760 687-5911. Ironically John Hagelin denounced The Secret as being too superficial to work. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He probably misread: http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=253B8DF9-18FE-70B2- A8961A86DC5B16C7 Yes, I think you're right, Spare Egg. As I surmised in a separate response to Rick Archer, Damon's 1 in 3 figure only works if one is considering 8 years, which is two presidential terms in office. Of course, candidates only run for one term at a time. Thanks for finding that Politico.com link as I think it was the cause of Damon's confusion which, of course, caused his reasoning to be off by 133%. And yet, the point still stands. Even if McCain doesn't die, the odds of being too unhealthy due to heart attack or stroke to continue to hold office are quite large as well. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's symptomatic of a broader contempt for women, especially working-class women, You mean like the women he worked with as a community organizer on the South side of Chicago instead of taking a high-paying job? Non sequitur. I think it is part of a long list of evidence against your claim. No, it isn't; it has nothing to do with it and certainly isn't evidence *against* it. How he *treated* the women he worked with, how he talked about them to his friends, might constitute evidence pro or con, but we don't know any of that. If you're going to be a community organizer, you don't have a choice about whether to work with women. And the high-paying job he could have had is a complete red herring in this context. It's apples and kiwi fruit. It includes his being raised by a single mom who he speaks of adoringly, married to a strong independent woman who relates to him as an equal during interviews, and his doting relationship with his two daughters. None of that precludes his having contempt for women as a whole, Curtis. I'm not a sexist; some of my best friends are women. Do you believe he thinks of his mother and Michelle and his daughters as typical women, or are they special in some sense? None of them are working-class, either. His mother and Michelle were highly educated, and his daughters go to a private school. BTW if you read about the Mcain political culture you have much more ammo for a male dominant world It's my understanding that he pays his female staff members the same as his male staff members, whereas Obama's female staffers are paid less than the men. I also understand McCain has a higher proportion of women on his staff than Obama does. which is why his pick came as such a surprise. Well, sure, but he *did* pick a woman. Obviously he didn't vet her thoroughly enough, but he must have known she was a pistol, and it didn't threaten him. There were several women Obama could have picked other than Hillary, but he chose a man. Bush seemed to be much more comfortable working with women as his close relationship with Condi and Karen Hughes showed. I haven't seen anything to indicate McCain doesn't get along well with his female staffers and advisers. And his campaign, especially with his pick of Palin, has no hesitation about asking for women's votes. So other than this dubious metaphor interpretation, what is your evidence that Obama has contempt for women? Go back and read my post, Curtis. I explained it there. Somehow you managed not to see it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
I'm reading somewhat between the lines here, but I get the distinct impression that although this pastor is a traditional fundamentalist Christian, he's more compassionate and thoughtful than most. I suspect he's struggling with the way the Bible passages dealing with homosexuality present it as a choice, because his experience with counseling gays seems to contradict this. Palin answered this question from Gibson by saying she doesn't judge if gay people are that way by choice. I'm hoping she has a more pragmatic approach to gay rights, but I still think she will oppose gay marriage which causes a lot of real problems for gay couples. I don't think we will realistically find out from any candidate how far they would push their personal agendas when in office. Bush came off as less interested in pushing a faith based agenda in his campaign. But once he got the power his anti science bias has caused a lot of trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: But I do agree the volume of viral email smears on Palin in such a short span of time is one for the Guinness Book of Records. snip Saying that Palin is not ready for this job is not a smear. Did raunchydog say that was a smear? I don't believe so. No she didn't. I was making the point that the most important information going out about her has nothing to do with smears. I think the clarification about the library books question is important. I work with schools and PTA members and have heard stories about how most are approached to ban certain books by super religious people. I heard that she just asked the librarian what the procedure was and didn't pursue it. I don't think that would fly too well in independent Alaska. But it is not a bad line to keep an eye on for anyone in a position of power. I understand that people, myself included have to be careful about jumping to conclusions about her. But I have some experience with people who are as outspokenly religious as Palin and so her positions are not completely unexpected. She doesn't believe in abortion in the case of incest or rape. This is an extreme position even for a pro-lifer. Actually, it's the only *consistent* position for a pro-lifer. It suggests that she really is concerned with the sanctity of life rather than with curtailing women's sexual freedom. (And as I noted elsewhere, it's not *necessarily* a purely religious position. You don't have to be religious to be against abortion.) I saw her answer this question so I am sure this is not a smear. No, this isn't a smear. (That she curtailed funding for a home for pregnant teens is a smear.) As far as I'm aware, abortion is the *only* issue on which she has indicated any desire to impose her personal view on others; she's for the repeal of Roe vs. Wade, as I recall. But as I noted earlier, if you genuinely believe abortion is murder, *of course* you're going to be in favor of legislation or court decisions to prevent it. I checked out her new church's beliefs from the Website you included, thanks for that. Given their stated relationship to scripture I have a few areas of culture (gay rights for one) that I will be watching her words very carefully on. Might want to have a look at the transcript of an interview Fox's Greta Van Susteren had with the pastor of Palin's current church. It appears to me that he doesn't take the fundamentalist position that being gay is a choice, FWIW, nor does it look as though he believes prayer can change one's sexual orientation: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420093,00.html I'm reading somewhat between the lines here, but I get the distinct impression that although this pastor is a traditional fundamentalist Christian, he's more compassionate and thoughtful than most. I suspect he's struggling with the way the Bible passages dealing with homosexuality present it as a choice, because his experience with counseling gays seems to contradict this. Here's video of the interview: http://tinyurl.com/5wlzky (There are a lot of [unintelligibles] in the transcript, but the video is clearer, and you get to see what the guy is like personally.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gina Gershon Strips Down Sarah Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gershon does her impression of Palin: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/61410aa4ff It appears that Palin has her fair share of female critics: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/3b13fbada7
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin - Book Banning - and the Firing Librarian
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ABC report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuuRMIjgxCM She was for banning books before she was against it... Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Again, I strongly suspect Obama knew exactly what he was saying. The metaphor he used has an obvious meaning. To try to connect this with a disgusting slur on women is such a stretch that I am amazed you could believe it. I can understand the right wing using it as a cynical tactic, but you surprise me here. As I said in my other post, there are plenty of things to go after Obama for. But this kind of connection seems completely crazy to me. I'm not as sure about the fish reference as I am about the lipstick one, but I really wouldn't put it past him. Both metaphors have an obvious meaning. That isn't the issue. The issue is whether he picked metaphors with obvious meanings to disguise less-obvious nasty swipes at Palin in order to give himself plausible deniability. And as I said, these are far from the only two instances from him of this sort of thing; it appears to be a habit. It's symptomatic of a broader contempt for women, especially working-class women, which he's shown in his refusal to reach out to Clinton's supporters, dismissing them by saying they'll get over it and vote for him because there's nowhere else for them to go. And if they don't, that's OK because he doesn't need their votes. How many of CLinton's supporters are working class women? Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (Palin didn't ban any books; she merely asked the librarian how she would react if she were asked to remove books. Nor did Palin threaten to fire the librarian for not being willing to do so.) Then why DID Palin fire the librarian [who was later re-instated after public outrage]? She was reinstated the next day, actually. From FactCheck.org: Palin initially requested Emmons' resignation, along with those of Wasilla's other department heads, in October 1996. Palin described the requests as a loyalty test and allowed all of them (except one, whose department she was eliminating) to retain their positions. But in January 1997, Palin fired Emmons, along with the police chief. According to the Chicago Tribune, Palin did not list censorship as a reason for Emmons' firing, but said she didn't feel she had Emmons' support. The decision caused 'a stir' in the small town, according to a newspaper account at the time. According to a widely circulated e- mail from Kilkenny, 'city residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter.' As we've noted, Palin did not attempt to ban any library books. We don't know if Emmons' resistance to Palin's questions about possible censorship had anything to do with Emmons' firing. And we have no idea if the protests had any impact on Palin at all. There simply isn't any evidence that we can find either way. Palin did re-hire Emmons the following day, saying that she now felt she had the librarian's backing. Emmons continued to serve as librarian until August 1999, when the Chicago Tribune reports that she resigned. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html The librarian now refuses to talk about the incident, other than to say she doesn't recall Palin citing the titles of any books to be considered for removal. And the librarian never claimed that Palin threatened to fire her over her refusal to consider removing books. But did say she found it hard to work with Palin. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The librarian now refuses to talk about the incident, other than to say she doesn't recall Palin citing the titles of any books to be considered for removal. And the librarian never claimed that Palin threatened to fire her over her refusal to consider removing books. Thanks, Judy. I personally find it very arrogant, authoritarian, demeaning and creepy that Palin implemented 'loyalty tests' with the librarian and the other dept heads - as if Wasilla was *her* little club. I can't document this, but my sister, who's been following all this very closely, tells me she read somewhere that the previous mayor, her opponent in the mayoral race, had demanded before the election that the department heads sign a loyalty oath to *him*. If that's the case, it's not really surprising that she'd ask for the same thing once she'd won the election. I share your dislike of loyalty tests. As I've tried to make clear over and over, I don't like or support Palin. I'm just appalled at the smears of her being circulated by Democrats.
[FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain doesn't khow to send an e-mail
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two words, speech recognitions software. Been out for over a decade. The criticism about being computer illiterate is valid in this day and age. Or do you think the Internet is a bunch of tubes Richard? No one is making fun of his disability. In fact using his disability as an excuse is a disservice to the many disabled people who don't let their disabilities stop them from using technology. Stephen Hawking uses a computer very effectively. I met a computer scientist 25 years ago who was so close to totally blind that she had to wear a microscope-like assembly to be able to read words one letter at a time on the computer screen. And of course, with text to speech and speech to text, and the upcoming EEG-driven interfaces, anyone in waking state who still has one of the standard communications senses (i.e., anything but smell) can use a computer IF THEY REALLY WANT TO. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip It's symptomatic of a broader contempt for women, especially working-class women, which he's shown in his refusal to reach out to Clinton's supporters, dismissing them by saying they'll get over it and vote for him because there's nowhere else for them to go. And if they don't, that's OK because he doesn't need their votes. How many of CLinton's supporters are working class women? They're her base, Lawson.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain doesn't khow to send an e-mail
On Sep 13, 2008, at 12:05 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Two words, speech recognitions software. Been out for over a decade. The criticism about being computer illiterate is valid in this day and age. Or do you think the Internet is a bunch of tubes Richard? No one is making fun of his disability. In fact using his disability as an excuse is a disservice to the many disabled people who don't let their disabilities stop them from using technology. Stephen Hawking uses a computer very effectively. I also have a friend who's legally blind who's been on the Internet for years, loves it in fact. Lots of software out there for people who have challenges. It's pretty amazing, actually, that McCain would let this one out without insisting he's trying to do something to correct the lack. I suppose maybe it could be seen as an example of his honesty, though. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain doesn't khow to send an e-mail
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 13, 2008, at 12:05 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Two words, speech recognitions software. Been out for over a decade. I can't believe no one has goofed on me for this gaff! That is really funny. The criticism about being computer illiterate is valid in this day and age. Or do you think the Internet is a bunch of tubes Richard? No one is making fun of his disability. In fact using his disability as an excuse is a disservice to the many disabled people who don't let their disabilities stop them from using technology. Stephen Hawking uses a computer very effectively. I also have a friend who's legally blind who's been on the Internet for years, loves it in fact. Lots of software out there for people who have challenges. It's pretty amazing, actually, that McCain would let this one out without insisting he's trying to do something to correct the lack. I suppose maybe it could be seen as an example of his honesty, though. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain doesn't khow to send an e-mail
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: http://tinyurl.com/43tnrb Chime in boyz. We may need to be careful about this one. According to a story in the Boston Globe back in 2000, the injuries McCain suffered as a POW make it impossible for him to use a keyboard. This was well before the question of his not knowing how to send email ever arose. There's no telling if he's going to buy a tape from the Video Professor, or just have his son-in-law sit down with him for a few days, but John McCain has decided to learn how to use the internet. I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself, McCain told the New York Times in an interview that appeared Sunday. I don't expect to be a great communicator, I don't expect to set up my own blog, but I am becoming computer literate to the point where I can get the information that I need. Even so, McCain bluntly admits, I don't e-mail. I've never felt the particular need to e-mail. http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/07/mccain-says-hes.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCains New ad Lipstick on a Pig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's my understanding that he pays his female staff members the same as his male staff members, whereas Obama's female staffers are paid less than the men. I also understand McCain has a higher proportion of women on his staff than Obama does. Correction/amplification: McCain's female staffers are paid *more* than his male staffers. (The above refers to Obama's and McCain's Senate staffs, not their campaign staffs, BTW.) http://www.ocregister.com/articles/obama-women-mccain-2154423-pay-equal http://tinyurl.com/67zus8
[FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain doesn't khow to send an e-mail
Even so, McCain bluntly admits, I don't e-mail. I've never felt the particular need to e-mail. Yeah, why would anyone need information faster than the fastest pony can ride? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: http://tinyurl.com/43tnrb Chime in boyz. We may need to be careful about this one. According to a story in the Boston Globe back in 2000, the injuries McCain suffered as a POW make it impossible for him to use a keyboard. This was well before the question of his not knowing how to send email ever arose. There's no telling if he's going to buy a tape from the Video Professor, or just have his son-in-law sit down with him for a few days, but John McCain has decided to learn how to use the internet. I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself, McCain told the New York Times in an interview that appeared Sunday. I don't expect to be a great communicator, I don't expect to set up my own blog, but I am becoming computer literate to the point where I can get the information that I need. Even so, McCain bluntly admits, I don't e-mail. I've never felt the particular need to e-mail. http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/07/mccain-says-hes.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain doesn't khow to send an e-mail
On Sep 13, 2008, at 12:50 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 13, 2008, at 12:05 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Two words, speech recognitions software. Been out for over a decade. I can't believe no one has goofed on me for this gaff! That is really funny. What gaffe, Curtis? That speech recognitions software is 3 words instead of 2? Just awful, I tell ya. Actually, considering some of the criticisms that often fly here, I'm surprised nobody did either. Now, if Obama had said that... Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain doesn't khow to send an e-mail
On Sep 13, 2008, at 12:53 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Even so, McCain bluntly admits, I don't e-mail. I've never felt the particular need to e-mail. Yeah, why would anyone need information faster than the fastest pony can ride? Ignorance: it's the new honesty! Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Matt Damon, bullshit artist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] And yet, the point still stands. Even if McCain doesn't die, the odds of being too unhealthy due to heart attack or stroke to continue to hold office are quite large as well. Yes! And that's why we're so lucky to have Sarah!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin wins over Obama women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: If Mr Obama should be in any doubt how gravely the Alaska governor's vice-presidential nomination has imperiled his White House ambitions, then a day spent in Macomb County will make this clear: white women who voted for John Kerry in 2004 are suddenly deserting him on masse. Read more: 'Palin wins over Obama women' By Tim Reid Times Online, September 12, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/4mqvht My brother lives in Mt. Clemens. This is the demographic I have been yammering about. Times Online: This is Mount Clemens, in the heart of Macomb County, where the pollster Stan Greenberg first identified the phenomenon of the Reagan Democrats the working-class, socially conservative, traditionally Democratic whites who deserted the party for Ronald Reagan in 1980. It is fair to say that this critical swing group now has a new name: Palin Democrats. According to a San Francisco Chronicle article, the election will be won in certain key states, which include Florida, Michigan, Illinois and Ohio. These states are considered the swing states. If Obama can win these swing states and hold the same states (blue) that voted Democratic from the last election, he wins. Essentially, the red states or those which voted Republican in the last election will support McCain and will vote accordingly. Texas is considered to be a Republican state. So, I don't think Obama will be campaigning hard in Texas. For the most part, the southern states are predicted to vote Republican as they did the last time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Painful to watch - Gibson interview: Palin On 'Bush Doctrine'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: But I do agree the volume of viral email smears on Palin in such a short span of time is one for the Guinness Book of Records. snip Saying that Palin is not ready for this job is not a smear. Did raunchydog say that was a smear? I don't believe so. I understand that people, myself included have to be careful about jumping to conclusions about her. Category 5 hurricane Obamaton, assaults our intrepid heroine of the working class, moose hunter, sharp shooter, Sarah Palin, and the flotsam and jetsam of her life crashes forcefully ashore. As her surge battered life lay bare; the Obamatons frantically pick through the rubble hoping to find a legitimate reason to discredit her. In their haste to program everyone to hate her as they instinctively do, they remain unapologetic for the wreckage they caused. While stepping over the bodies of the friends and family they helped lay waste, their brown shirted thuggery is on full display. Keep it up guys and sink your candidate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moodmaking as Enlightenment
Good God, that's so true. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Public Service Announcement from Vaj and the SEFFTPOSITUUOE http://snipurl.com/3q1zo
