[FairfieldLife] D!
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[FairfieldLife] Succer?
I gather soccer is not a great sport in the US of A. Anyhow, USA - Italy at the moment: 1 - 1! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/mDk17A/lOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] B12, once again
(Jaan Suurküla [= big (suur) village (küla; cf. Sanskrit kula)] is an M.D. of apparently Estonian ancestry.) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:51:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Jaan Suurkula [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: You may have vitamin B12-deficiency Introduction Dear Friends, B12 is very important for the normal functioning of the brain. For example, over half of people with Alzheimers dementia have been found to have B12 deficiency. Research has reported B12-deficiency among one third of vegetarians studied. This may be an underestimation as the tests are insensitive. The reason for the deficiency is that vegetarian food is poor in B12, unless one regularly eats mungbean and chickbean sprouts (a cup virtually every day is required to provide enough). So it is good to take some B12 if one has been a vegetarian for a long time. Even when there is a harmful deficiency in the Brain, it is not always very evident. Although the tests are unreliable, they should still be taken because, if positive you have a strong reason to be careful about taking B12 in the future. Wrong cooking may cause deficiency. This is, because all the B- vitamins are very heatsensitive so they are commonly destroyed with cooking. They are very watersoluble so they should not be boiled in water. B-vitamin rich vegetables should be steamed (not boiled in water), until they get a little soft. So unless this is done, there are not much B-vitamins left in the food. Then take B-vitamins - Brewers yeast is a good supplement. I have found pronounced deficiency in several vegetarian TM-people NOTE: Do forward this to your vegetarian friends especially as well as elderly relatives. Please mention that I intend, if time and resources allow, to create a website also informing about other important health issues. The idea is to sort out, among all the more or less well underpinned rumours in the health field, what are really important and common health issues in our modern society and to explain in a way laymen can understand. I will let you know when/if it is published. Jai Guru Dev Jaan As this text is quite long I have split it in a few parts. B12 part 1 Symptoms Silent vitamin B12 deficiency common among vegetarians By Jaan Suurküla, M.D. Recent research has shown that vitamin B12 deficiency is very common among vegetarians. In addition, at least 10-15 % of all people above 60 are deficient. Measuring the vitamin in blood is not reliable. Some can have a pronounced deficiency with normal B12 in blood. Therefore the extent of B12 deficiency has long been underestimated. Even young people may be deficient. The youngest vegetarian with a clearcut deficiency I know about was 17 years. I have found that many vegetarian meditators have B12 deficiency. Deficiency symptoms may be vague Vitamin B12 is very important for the normal functioning of the nervous system. Early and even fairly pronounced deficiency does not always cause distinct or specific symptoms. Common early symptoms are tiredness or a decreased mental work capacity. Decreased concentration and decreased memory (brain Vata). Irritability and depression. Sleep disturbances may occur, because B12 is important for the regulation of the sleep wake cycle by the pineal gland (through melatonin)[1]. Treatment with B12 normalizes the melatonin level, and thereby the sleep disturbance. Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD), with severe seasonal depressions has a known connection with disturbed pineal (melatonin) functioning including disturbed sleep-wake rhythm[2]. But I have had cases with pronounced deficiency but still no subjective symptoms perhaps some sleep disturbance. It is my experience that many doctors miss the diagnosis. Severe deficiency may harm the brain. For example about 50 percent of Alzheimer's dementia cases had low B12 in a recent Swedish study. The damage is suspected to be caused by an increase of the neurotoxic amino acid homocystein which requires B12 for its breakdown. Also the peripheral nervous system is affected. The first symptoms are tingling, needle-prick or burning sensations in the toes and later in the fingertips. Later numbness in the hands and feet like walking on clouds and balance disturbances. The muscles get weak and shaky. The bladder and bowel control gets increasingly impaired. Impotence may occur. The sense of smell may decrease. Many other disturbances, not yet known to be connected to B12 may be there. But you can have pronounced brain deficiency without any of these peripheral symptoms. Vitamin B12-deficiency may also cause anemia and this was formerly thought to be a good indicator of B12-deficiency. But recent research has found that there may be pronounced brain affection without anemia. Especially in pernicious anemia (see below) there may also be symptoms from the Gastro-intestinal channel, including soreness of the tongue that may be smooth, at least on the sides, flatulence, heartburn, diarrhea
[FairfieldLife] There she BLowe's! (YFing mahole[?] cover?)
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[FairfieldLife] Wind Side Story
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[FairfieldLife] Congrats, Carolina!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 3 million event?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, new.morning wrote: http://www.silverjubilee.org/index.htm Thanks, beautiful website for the event. Quite incredible. This is what I like to see in a worldwide movement! Here are news articles in the Hindu (Indian national newspaper) following the first and third day of the event. No article on second day. The first article refers to a sea of humanity but provides no numbers. I speculate 1 million per day over three days would have gotten more substantial coverage - even in the national news section -- not the regional news section as these articles appear. http://www.hindu.com/2006/02/18/stories/2006021822040300.htm http://www.hindu.com/2006/02/20/stories/2006022020370300.htm Dravidian people in India seem to be more effective than Indo-European Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Hmm....turiiya(?) as described in Shriimad Bhaagavatam (bh. puraaNa), part 1
Shrii Shukadeva Gosvaamii to Mahaaraaja PariikSit: sthiraM sukhaM caasanam aasthito yatir yadaa jihaasur imam an.ga lokam kaale ca deshe ca mano na sajjayet praaNaan niyacchen manasaa jitaasuH (sthiram; sukham; ca; aasanam; aasthitaH; yatiH; yadaa; jihaasuH; imam; an.ga; lokam; kaale; ca; deshe; ca; manaH; na; sajjayet; praaNaan; niyacchet; manasaa; jita-asuH) SB 2.2.15: O King, whenever the yogî desires to leave this planet of human beings, he should not be perplexed about the proper time or place, but should comfortably sit without being disturbed and, regulating the life air, should control the senses by the mind. http://vedabase.net/sb/2/2/en Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] -ru's , -roos or rouge?
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[FairfieldLife] Kokko!
Hmmm... agnim iile puro...er...pascaad-dhitam? http://www.kolumbus.fi/seurasaarisaatio/Suomi/lehdisto/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus' words: description or instruction?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus also, said..I am in the Father, and ye in me, and I in you. He also said, Before Abraham was, I AM In Greek it seems to be eimi (pronounce: i-mee)... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever heard of a guy called Peter Kelder..?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://geocities.com/peterklutz/ Well, I happen to have his book Tibetan Secrets of Youth and Vitality How to look and feel younger using five ancient rites for stimulating your energy centres. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: World Peace Removal of Terrorism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, surya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two root causes for the entire chaos and terrorism in this world. One is the thirst for earning money and the other is the religious fanatic. Due to money, people are quarreling, hereas due to religion, countries are quarreling. Unless these two root causes are eradicated we cannot achieve world peace. The tree will not die by cutting leaves and branches. It dies only by cutting its roots. There is no use in earning the extra money. Due to excess money, quarrels, mental worries and several other problems arise. Finally, it ends in loss only and not in any profit. You have to leave all this extra money here only and quit this world alone. Your issues may lose that money given by you. Such sinful extra money brings problems not only to you but also to your children. Neither yourself nor your children will be happy and peaceful. This entire world is the property of God and take whatever is required from it. This is said in Gita, (Yavanartha .). Do you mean this one: yaavaan artha udapaane sarvataH samplutodake . taavaan sarveSu vedeSu braahmaNasya vijaanataH .. 2\-46.. Maharishi's translation: To the enlightened brahmin all the Vedas are of no more use than is a small well in a place flooded with water on every side. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hmm....turiiya(?) as described in Shriimad Bhaagavatam (bh. puraaNa) part 2
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shrii Shukadeva Gosvaamii to Mahaaraaja PariikSit: sthiraM sukhaM caasanam aasthito yatir yadaa jihaasur imam an.ga lokam kaale ca deshe ca mano na sajjayet praaNaan niyacchen manasaa jitaasuH (sthiram; sukham; ca; aasanam; aasthitaH; yatiH; yadaa; jihaasuH; imam; an.ga; lokam; kaale; ca; deshe; ca; manaH; na; sajjayet; praaNaan; niyacchet; manasaa; jita-asuH) SB 2.2.15: O King, whenever the yogii desires to leave this planet of human beings, he should not be perplexed about the proper time or place, but should comfortably sit without being disturbed and, regulating the life air, should control the senses by the mind. http://vedabase.net/sb/2/2/en 2.2.16 manaH svabuddhyayaamalayaa niyamya kSetra-jña etaaM ninanyet tam aatmani aatmaanam aatmany avarudhya dhiiro labdhopashaantir virameta kRtyaat (manaH; svabuddhyayaa; a_malayaa; niyamya; kSetra-jñe[sic!]; etaam; ninanyet; tam; aatmani; aatmaanam; aatmani; avarudhya; dhiiraH; labdha-upashaantiH; virameta; kRtyaat) Swami Prabhupaada's translation: SB 2.2.16: Thereafter, the yogii should merge his mind, by his unalloyed intelligence, into the living entity, and then merge the living entity into the Superself. And by doing this, the fully satisfied living entity becomes **situated in the supreme stage of satisfaction**, so that he ceases from all other activities. -- labdha mfn. taken , seized , caught , met with , found c. ; got at , arrived (as a moment) Katha1s. ; obtained (as a quotient in division) Col upazAnti [=upashaanti] f. cessation , intermission , remission Sus3r. Ragh. Hit. c. ; tranquillity , calmness. **labdhopashaantiH (labdha-upashaantiH): (someone having) found -- or stuff -- calmness?? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2400 Pundits to Germany?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html? art=1151176428109153 I'm afraid that might improve Deutschland's possibilities to win the Soccer World Cup... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hmm....turiiya(?) as described in Shriimad Bhaagavatam (bh. puraaNa) part 2
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops! Typo: ninanyet -- should be: ninayet! Fixed below. manaH svabuddhyayaamalayaa niyamya kSetra-jña etaaM ninayet tam aatmani aatmaanam aatmany avarudhya dhiiro labdhopashaantir virameta kRtyaat (manaH; svabuddhyayaa; a_malayaa; niyamya; kSetra-jñe[sic!]; etaam; ninayet; tam; aatmani; aatmaanam; aatmani; avarudhya; dhiiraH; labdha-upashaantiH; virameta; kRtyaat) Swami Prabhupaada's translation: SB 2.2.16: Thereafter, the yogii should merge his mind, by his unalloyed intelligence, into the living entity, and then merge the living entity into the Superself. And by doing this, the fully satisfied living entity becomes **situated in the supreme stage of satisfaction**, so that he ceases from all other activities. -- labdha mfn. taken , seized , caught , met with , found c. ; got at , arrived (as a moment) Katha1s. ; obtained (as a quotient in division) Col upazAnti [=upashaanti] f. cessation , intermission , remission Sus3r. Ragh. Hit. c. ; tranquillity , calmness. **labdhopashaantiH (labdha-upashaantiH): (someone having) found -- or stuff -- calmness?? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] We Key on Wilber
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber In 1983 Wilber moved to Marin County, CA, where he met and soon married Terry (Treya) Killam. Around this time Treya was diagnosed with breast cancer. From the fall of 1984 until 1987 Wilber gave up most of his writing to focus on caring for her. During this stressful time he temporarily ceased meditation and turned to alcohol. During their brief stay in a home they had built at Incline Village (Lake Tahoe, NV), Wilber contracted a chronic illness in 1985 which he still struggles with today. In 1987 they moved to Boulder, CO to be near Naropa University, a Buddhist University founded by Chogyam Trungpa. Treya died in January, 1989. Their joint experience was recorded in the book Grace and Grit (1991). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: We Key on Wilber
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber In 1983 Wilber moved to Marin County, CA, where he met and soon married Terry (Treya) Killam. Around this time Treya was diagnosed with breast cancer. From the fall of 1984 until 1987 Wilber gave up most of his writing to focus on caring for her. During this stressful time he temporarily ceased meditation and turned to alcohol. During their brief stay in a home they had built at Incline Village (Lake Tahoe, NV), Wilber contracted a chronic illness in 1985 which he still struggles with today. In 1987 they moved to Boulder, CO to be near Naropa University, a Buddhist University founded by Chogyam Trungpa. Treya died in January, 1989. Their joint experience was recorded in the book Grace and Grit (1991). BTW, I'm afraid he might have *cquired *mmuno *eficiency *yndrome! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Whitney on puraaNas
The purâNas, a large class of works mostly of immense extent, are best mentioned in connection with the epics. They are pseudo-historical and prophetic in character, of modern date, and of inferior value. -- William Dwight Whitney, Sanskrit Grammar Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Kewl translation of SS 3.45!
nAsikAntarmadhya-saMyamAt kim atra savyApasavya-sauSumneSu . 3##-##45. (naasikaa; antar; madhya; saMyamaat; kim; atra; savya; apasavya; sauSumneSu) 3-45 Concentrating [doing sanyama] on the center within the nose, what use are the left and the right channels or suSumna? [channels of kuNDalinii-shakti?] I still don't get it why /suSumna/ is in /vRddhi/ form (sauSumneSu: locative plural of sauSumna) as opposed to /savya/(=left) and /apasavya/(=right) seemingly being in the basic form. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Quite a surprise!
Whitney: The [Sanskrit] 'r' is clearly shown by its influence in the euphonic processes of the language to be a lingual sound, or one made with the tip of the tongue turned up into the dome of the palate. It thus resembles the English smooth 'r', and, like this, seems to have been *untrilled*. [emph. add.] a. The Paninean scheme reckons 'r' as a lingual. None of the praatishaakyas, however, does so; nor are they entirely consistent with one another in its description. For the most part they define it as made at the roots of the teeth. This would give it a position like that of the vibrated 'r'; but no authority hints at a vibration as belonging to it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sacrifice of Wealth Is The Way
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, surya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, in the world everybody agrees that the real power is the money only. Money is the fruit of work and Bhagavatgita calls sacrifice of money Karma Phala Tyaga. In Bhagavatgita it is said Dhyanat Karma Phala Tyagah The whole verse (XII 12) goes like this: shreyo hi jñaanam abhyaasaaj jñaanaad dhyaanaM vishiSyate . dhyaanaat karmaphalatyaagas tyaagaac chaantir anantaram.h .. 12\-12.. Translation by Ramanand Prasad: Knowledge is better than mere ritualistic practice, meditation is better than mere knowledge, renunciation of the fruit of work is better than meditation, peace immediately follows the renunciation of (the attachment to) the fruit of work. Interesting in that verse is that dhyaanaat karma-phala-tyaagaH can IMO be read either as an independent phrase in which case it would mean 'from dhyaana [follows] karma-phala-tyaaga'. OTOH, it may be combined with shreyaH or vishiSyate: shreyaH... [or: vishiSyate]dhyaanaat karma-phala-tyaagaH. In that case it would mean: 'karma-phala-tyaaga is better than dhyaana'. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -jivanmuktiviveka, Treatise on Cosmic Consciousness standard work in the Shankaracharya trad. on this topic. Thanks, Vaj, for mentioning that treatise. VidyaaraNya's(?) Sanskrit seems way cool. An example: 41.yady api pata §jalin aabhautikabhÂtatanm aatrendriy aaha ¸k aar aadivi ¢ay aa² sa ¸- praj §aatasavikalpasam aadhayo bahudh aaprapa §cit aa²,tath aapi te ¢ aam antardh aan aadisiddhi- hetutay aamuktihetusam aadhivirodhitv aan n aasm aabhis tatr aadara ² kriyate..42.tath aaca sÂtritam: te samaadhaav upasargaa vyutthaane siddhaya ² ||[YS 3.38 ] iti.. 43.sth aanyupanimantraýe saÔgasmay aakaraýa ¸ punar ani ¢ÒaprasaÔg aat |[YS 3.51 ] iti ca.. :0 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] maadhava-vidyaaraNya?
6 1.3 Authorship of the J vanmuktiviveka Despite all that has been written about the sage Vidy raýya,we have little reliable data on his identity.I want to consider first the clues available in his own writings.In the beginning of the JMV itself,the author outlines the plan of his book,naming the four types of renouncers,and says Now,the practices of these (renouncers)have been described by us in the commentary on the P r arasmÁti .Here the paramaha ¸sa is described.[1.0.11 ] These words by themselves are the single best evidence we have that Vidy raýya the author of the JMV is the same as M dhava the author of the P M.We find in the introductory verses 6 7 of the P M that the author was the son of M yaýa and ¯r mat ,brother of S yaýa and Bhogan tha.He was the disciple of the ¯aÔkar c ryas Vidy t rtha and Bh rat t rtha.These verses also mentions ¯r kaýÒhan tha,who may have been his family's preceptor.He studied the black Yajurveda and the Baudh yana dharmasÂtra and belonged to the Bh radv ja-gotra.9 His date of birth is unknown;however,according to an inscription preserved at the ¯ÁÔgeri maÒha ,we may be certain he died in 1386.10 more: http://robgoodd.net/r_goodding.pdf p. 26 - Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 29, 2006, at 3:29 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: -jivanmuktiviveka, Treatise on Cosmic Consciousness standard work in the Shankaracharya trad. on this topic. Thanks, Vaj, for mentioning that treatise. VidyaaraNya's(?) Sanskrit seems way cool. An example: 41.yady api pata §jalin aabhautikabhÂtatanm aatrendriy aaha ¸k aar aadivi ¢ay aa² sa ¸- praj §aatasavikalpasam aadhayo bahudh aaprapa §cit aa²,tath aapi te ¢ aam antardh aan aadisiddhi- hetutay aamuktihetusam aadhivirodhitv aan n aasm aabhis tatr aadara ² kriyate..42.tath aaca sÂtritam: te samaadhaav upasargaa vyutthaane siddhaya ² ||[YS 3.38 ] iti.. 43.sth aanyupanimantraýe saÔgasmay aakaraýa ¸ punar ani ¢ÒaprasaÔg aat |[YS 3.51 ] iti ca.. Gladly! Unfortunately cut and pasting from Gooddings version will not work as a good transliteration as it is encoded in a CSX font. So it usually won't look good in ASCII or HTML. I was too lazy to try to fix that. I guess I hafta emphasize that I don't agree with VidyaaraNya as to the dangerousness of siddhis. IMO, both Vyaasa and Bhojadeva in their commentaries on YS seem to point out that te samaadhaav upasargaaH... in III 38 (or something) refers only to the siddhis mentioned in the previous suutra. But perhaps if I was a rabid anti-TMer, I'd try to read it in a different way... :) The nice thing about Gooddings version is he is the first westerner to actually go to India to investigate the various versions of the text, identify their differences and rectify the mistakes based on his findings in discussion with pundits there. His transliteration seems amazingly accurate. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Superman Returns
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/29/06 11:48:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- MDixon6569 wrote: Has anybody see Superman Returns yet? I saw it yesterday and found it to be very uplifting and spiritual, almost a prophetic movie of what could be someday. I found it very sweet. Funny word for a summer action movie. When I saw Richard Donner's Superman movie in 1978 (the one with Christopher Reeve), I thought it would be prophetic. The TM-Sidhis were new and hope was high. This time around, I saw the story as a metaphor. I'm told we are, in essence, indestructable, and this movie showed what that's like on the physical plane. But it went further, too. I was touched by an exchange between Lois Lane and the Man of Steel. Teräs-mies = Steel-man http://www.perunamaa.net/sarjakuvarock/dc/kannet/tm2/tm2196901.jpg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] VidyaaraNya departs
Although VidyaaraNya is careful to incorporate the basic positions of his teachers,he departs from the mainstream Advaita of Shankara by prescribing in addition to knowledge a further program of yogic discipline based on such texts as the Bhagavad Giitaa (BhG),the Paatañjaliiya Yogasuutras (YS),the GauDapaadiiya Kaarikaas (GK),and the Laghu-YogavaasiSTha (LYV).He integrates the structures of thought from the Shankaran Advaita and the Paatañjaliiya Yoga systems into one system bearing on the life and goal of the renouncer. -- Robert Goodding, The Jiivanmuktiviveka of VidyaaraNya To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Why VidyaaraNya co pretended not to dig siddhis?
My wild guess is they didn't want to irritate the muslim rulers by advertising the occult powers hindus were familiar with! :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: invincible government collapses
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://yogavisionaries.com/future.php So let's go for the big one. Who's gonna win the World Cup? Hmmm... Deutschland? :0 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Er, just what is expected of us today? We have to listen to the bagpipes, and I friggin hate the bagpipes. OffWorld (the Scot) Ditto! And even more I hate the (up)tight sneer-drums accompanying them! :0 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 2, 2006, at 3:59 PM, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 7/2/06 9:24:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sparaig@ writes: Obviously, MMY just doesn't get it while the ones that advocate subtle effort and control do. Either that or they are teaching two different techniques, one for people with lazy minds, and one for people who have no problem controlling theirs. Ever see the picture from Willytex's website of hardcore TMers meditating in Dome? They have horrible posture, most slouching, one in a lazy boy chair! Compare to almost any other meditation class. TMer's are known in the broader meditational world for their bad posture. The horror of it all... Actually M does get it. He told us that none of these things like Asanas and mudras and what have you ever needed to be performed perfectly. The intent and practice to the best of one's ability is good enough. M recited a poem by Shankara to illustrate this. It was something like, A little understanding of the Gita, a taste of the Ganges, a pilgrimage to a Holy site, a little asanas and so forth was the key. Never did Shankara expect everyone to become great Vedic Scholar, or live off of the Ganges, go to all Holy places, or do all the asanas perfectly. But one should show the intent and do what he could and consider it done. M said there are teachers out there that demand everything be done perfectly, if one uses Chin Mudra, they expect the finger tips of index and thumb be placed perfectly and form a perfect circle and the other three fingers held perfectly straight away. For us, he said, it is enough that the index finger and thumb touch. Transcending is what we pay attention to, not all the other stuff. Unfortunately when posture is not right during meditation--and there *are* many ways to sit--it screws with the vital airs and a number of other things. If you can't sit in lotus or some la-dee-da asana, just sit in a chair. It's interesting that when I change during a session from TM to naasikaantarmadhya-saMyama (SS III 44) my posture almost immediately gets straightened, or stuff. (naasikaantarmadhyasaMyamaat kim atra savyaapasavya- sauSumneSu) Of course that's only my take on what that suutra might actually mean. There seems to be several differing opinions on what naasikaantarmadhyasaMyama really means. My translation is mainly based on the Patañjalian meaning of saMyama (desha-bandhash cittasya, and all that...) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What are mudras in general and the Chin mudra in particular?
mudrA f. (fr. %{mudra} see above) a seal or any instrument used for
sealing or stamping , a seal-ring , signet-ring (cf. %{aGguli-m-}) ,
any ring MBh. Ka1v. c. ; type for printing or instrument for
lithographing L. ; the stamp or impression made by a seal c. ; any
stamp or print or mark or impression MBh. Ka1v. c. ; a stamped
coin , piece of money , rupee , cash , medal L. ; an image , sign ,
badge , token (esp. a token or mark of divine attributes impressed
upon the body) Ka1v. Pur. Ra1jat. ; authorization , a pass , passport
(as given by a seal) Mudr. ; shutting , closing (as of the eyes or
lips gen. or comp.) Ka1v. ; a lock , stopper , bung Amar. Bhpr. ; a
mystery Cat. ; *N. of partic. positions or intertwinings of the
fingers* (24 in number , commonly practised in religious
worship , and supposed to possess an occult meaning and magical
efficacy Das3. Sarvad. Ka1ran2d2. RTL. 204 ; 406) ; a partic. branch
of education (` reckoning by the fingers ') DivyA7v. ; parched or
fried grain (as used in the S3a1kta or Ta1ntrik ceremonial) RTL.
192 ; (in rhet.) the natural expression of things by words , calling
things by their right names Kuval. ; (in music) a dance accordant
with tradition Sam2gi1t.
'chin' might be sandhi for 'chit'(in Harvard-Kyoto, etc: cit)
cit 1 mfn. ifc. ` piling up ' see %{agni-} , %{Urdhva-} , and %
{pUrva-ci4t} ; (Pa1n2. 3-2 , 92) forming a layer or stratum , piled
up VS. i , xii TS. i (cf. %{kaGka-} , %{karma-} , %{cakSuz-} , %
{droNa-} , %{prA7Na-} , %{manaz-} , %{rathacakra-} , %{vAk-} , %
{zyena-} , and %{zrotra-ci4t}.)
2 cit 2 mfn. ifc. ` knowing ' see %{Rta-ci4t} ; ` giving heed
to ' or ` revenging [guilt , %{RNa-}] ' see %{RNa-}.
3 cit 3 mfn. ifc. ` id. ' see 2. %{cit}.
5 cit 1. 2. 3 see 1. 2. 3. %{ci}.
7 cit 5 mfn. ifc. ` thinking ' see %{a-} , %{duz-} , %{manaz-} , %
{vipaz-} , and %{huraz-ci4t} ; cf. also %{apa-cit} ; f. thought ,
intellect , spirit , soul VS. iv , 19 KapS. Bhartr2. BhP. ; cf. %{sa-
} and [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; pure Thought (Brahma cf. RTL. p. 34) Veda7ntas.
Prab.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
on 7/2/06 5:07 PM, Vaj at vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jul 2, 2006, at 3:59 PM, MDixon6569@ wrote:
In a message dated 7/2/06 9:24:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
sparaig@ writes:
Obviously, MMY just doesn't get it while the ones that
advocate subtle effort and control do.
Either that or they are teaching two different
techniques,
one for people with lazy minds, and one for people who
have no problem controlling theirs.
Ever see the picture from Willytex's website of hardcore
TMers
meditating in Dome? They have horrible posture, most
slouching, one
in a lazy boy chair!
Compare to almost any other meditation class. TMer's are
known in the
broader meditational world for their bad posture.
The horror of it all...
Actually M does get it. He told us that none of these things
like Asanas and
mudras and what have you ever needed to be performed
perfectly.
The intent
and practice to the best of one's ability is good enough. M
recited a poem by
Shankara to illustrate this. It was something like, A little
understanding of
the Gita, a taste of the Ganges, a pilgrimage to a Holy site,
a
little asanas
and so forth was the key. Never did Shankara expect everyone
to
become great
Vedic Scholar, or live off of the Ganges, go to all Holy
places, or do all
the asanas perfectly. But one should show the intent and do
what he could and
consider it done. M said there are teachers out there that
demand everything
be done perfectly, if one uses Chin Mudra, they expect the
finger tips of
index and thumb be placed perfectly and form a perfect circle
and the other
three fingers held perfectly straight away. For us, he
said, it
is enough
that the index finger and thumb touch. Transcending is what we
pay attention
to, not all the other stuff.
Unfortunately when posture is not right during meditation--and
there *are*
many ways to sit--it screws with the vital airs and a number of
other things.
If you can't sit in lotus or some la-dee-da asana, just sit in
a
chair.
At the start of my 6-month course, Maharishi said, ³I have 6
months to turn
you into yogis.² He had us doing lots of asanas, taking cold
baths, fasting,
sitting in meditation without back support (which he strongly
recommended),
etc. The impression he gave was, OK, enough of this slouchy softy
business.
Time to get serious. Another thing he said was, ³it¹s a race to
see who can
purify the fastest.²
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name
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[FairfieldLife] Kamprad
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[FairfieldLife] Hypocrisy (was Re: Maharishi's name)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 7/3/06 12:55 PM, Kenny H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 7/1/06 8:34 AM, Patrick Gillam at jpgillam@ wrote: Maybe Maharishi had the same delusion I did. Just as I thought I was essentially a non-smoker even as I puffed away at my La Unicas, he was able to think he was celibate when he dallying with his gopis. Another possibility, which I¹m open to, is that at his stage of evolution celibacy made no difference, but he needed to recommend it to his students. Would he have been able to explain that point to them? I'm not certain how this fits in here but what you said, above, broguth this to mind. ³Broguth² - Plu perfect subjunctive participle of ³to bring² - Strunk Archer Wouldn't that be 'had brogthu'? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] NAMS!
The first compound word of Shiva-suutra III 44 (or 45)
without the ablative case ending '-at' is:
naasikaantarmadhyasaMyama
It consists of the following words:
nAsikA f. nostril; nose (mostly du.).
[1 antar ind. within , between , amongst , in the middle or interior.
(As a prep. with loc.) in the middle , in , between , into ; (with
acc.) between ; (with gen.) in , in the middle. (ifc.) in , into , in
the middle of , between , out of the midst of [cf. Zend $ ; Lat.
{inter} ; Goth. {undar}]. ]
***2 antar is sometimes compounded with a following word like an
adjective , meaning interior , internal , intermediate. ***
1 madhya a. middle, central, moderate, indifferent, neutral; n. (also
{madhye}) adv. in the midst of, inside, in or into, between, among
(gen. or ---, {madhye} also --- in adv.),*** as subst. the middle,
centre, interior, esp. the middle of the body, the waist*** (also
m.).
saMyama m. holding together , restraint , control , (esp.) control of
the senses , self-control Mn. MBh. c. ; tying up (the hair) Sa1h. ;
binding , fettering VarBr2S. ; closing (of the eyes) Ma1rkP. ;
concentration of mind (comprising the performance of Dha1ran2a1 ,
Dhya1na , and Sama1dhi , or the last three stages in Yoga) Yogas.
Sarvad. ; effort , exertion (%{A4} , with great difficulty ') MBh. ;
suppression i.e. destruction (of the world) Pur. ; N. of a son of
Dhu1mra7ksha (and father of Kr2is3a7s3va) BhP.
Just for fun, compare naasikaantarmadhyasaMyama to the first
compound word of the flying suutra:
kaayaakaashayoH (kaaya-aakaashayoH) saMbandha-saMyama
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[FairfieldLife] Shiva-suutra-vaarttika on SS I 16
lokânandaM samâdhisukham // SivS_1.16 // * [shivasûtravârttika: * lokyaM lokayitâ ceti lokash cetyacidâtmani || SivSV_1.16:1 || * tattadrûpatayâ tasmiM loke sphurati yoginaH || SivSV_1.16:2 || * grâhyagrâhakasaMvittiM sâmânyâ sarvadehinâm || SivSV_1.16:3 || * yoginâM tu visheSo 'yaM sambandhe sâvadhânatâ || SivSV_1.16:4 || * ity uktanîtyâ tat sarvam aham ity anusaMhiteH || SivSV_1.16:5 || * ânando yo bhavaty antas tat samâdhisukhaM smRtam || SivSV_1.16:6 || * yat samâdhisukhaM tasya svâtmârâmasya yoginaH|| SivSV_1.16:7 || * tad eva loke lokânâm ânando 'ntarvicinvatâm || SivSV_1.16:8 || * vibhûtiyogam etasya darshayaty atha yoginaH|| SivSV_1.16:9 ||] This seems to be about Maharishi-effect: yat samâdhisukhaM tasya svâtmârâmasya yoginaH|| tad eva loke lokânâm ânando 'ntarvicinvatâm || vibhûtiyogam etasya darshayaty atha yoginaH|| Draft version of THE cardemaisterian translation: That which is the bliss of samaadhi of that yogi rejoicing in the supreme spirit is also (the?) bliss of those other people who are turned inwards (aarrgghh...). Vibhuuti-yoga (spreading of the effect of ones yogic practises??) of the yogi is shown that way. http://tinyurl.com/na4t7 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Wives (vaimot) of the best ski-jumper in the whole wide world
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[FairfieldLife] Yoga and Life
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shiva-suutra-vaarttika on SS I 16
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's Singh's translation and comment, based on the teaching of
Sw.
Lakshman Joo:
The word loka has to be construed in two senses 1) that which
is
perceived, i.e. the multitude of objects, 2) he who perceives i.e.
the class of subjects.
FWIW, /loka/ seems to be an interesting word:
loka m. (connected with %**{roka}** ; in the oldest texts %{loka} is
generally preceded by %{u} , which accord. to the Padap. = the
particle 3. %{u} ; but %{u} may be a prefixed vowel and %{uloka4} , a
collateral dialectic form of %{loka} ; accord. to others %{u-loka} is
abridged from %{uru-} or %{ava-loka}) , free or open space , room ,
place , scope , free motion RV. AV. Br. A1S3vS3r. (acc. with %{kR} or
%{dA} or %{anu-} %{nI} , to make room grant freedom ' ; %{loke} with
gen. ` instead of ') ; intermediate space Kaus3. ; a tract ,
region , district , country , province S3Br. ; the wide space or
world (either ` the universe ' or , any division of it ' , esp. `
the sky or heaven ' ; 3 Lokas are commonly enumerated , viz.
heaven , earth , and the atmosphere or lower regions ; sometimes only
the first two ; but a fuller classification gives 7 worlds , viz.
Bhu1-lñloka , the earth ; Bhuvar-lñloka ' the space between the
earth and sun inhabited by Munis , Siddhas c. ; Svar-lñloka ,
Indra's heaven above the sun or between it and the polar star ; Mahar-
lñloka , a region above the polar star and inhabited by Bhr2igo and
other saints who survive the destruction of the 3 lower worlds ;
Janar-lñloka , inhabited by Brahma1's son Sanat-kuma1ra c. ; Tapar-
lñloka , inhñinhabited by deified Vaira1gins ; Satya-lñloka or Brahma-
lñloka , abode of Brahma1 , translation to which exempts from rebirth
[906,2] ; elsewhere these 7 worlds are described as earth , sky ,
heaven , middle region , place of re-births , mansion of the blest ,
and abode of truth ; sometimes 14 worlds are mentioned , viz. the 7
above , and 7 lower regions called in the order of their descent
below the earth- A-tala , Vi-tñtala , Su-tñtala , Rasa1tñtala ,
Tala1tñtala , Maha1-tñtala , and Pa1ta1la ; cf. RTL. 102 n. 1 IW.
420 , 1 ; 435 , 1) AV. c. c. ; N. of the number ` seven ' (cf.
above) VarBr2S. Sch. ; the earth or world of human beings c. Mn.
MBh. c. ([EMAIL PROTECTED] , this world ' ; %{asau4} or %
[EMAIL PROTECTED] , that or the other world ' ; loke or %{iha} %
{loke} , ` here on earth ' , opp. to %{para-tra} , %{para-loke}
c. ; %{kRtsne} %{loke} , ` on the whole earth ') ; (also pl.) the
inhabitants of the world , mankind , folk , people (sometimes opp. to
` king ') Mn. MBh. c. ; (pl.) men (as opp. to ` women ') Vet.
Hit. ; a company , community (of ten ifc. to form collectives) Ka1v.
Vas. Katha1s. c. ; ordinary life , worldly affairs , common practice
or usage Gr2S. Nir. Mn. c. (%{loke} either ` in ordinary life ' ,
` in worldly matters ' ; or , in common language , in popular
speech ' , as opp. to %{vede} , %{chandasi}) ; the faculty of
seeing , sight (only in %{ca4kSur-l-} q.v.) ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] du.
and [EMAIL PROTECTED] pl.N. of Sa1mans A1rshBr. [Cf. Lat. {lu1sus} ,
originally , a clearing of a forest ' ; Lith. {lau4kas} , a field.]
IMO, it's a bit strange that its evident(?) connection with the
verbal root /lok/ (English: look) is not mentioned above.
lok (connected with 1. %***{ruc}) cl. 1. A1. (Dha1tup. iv , 2) , %
{lokate} (pf. %{luloke} Bhat2t2. ; inf. %{-lokitum} Katha1s.) , to
see , behold , perceive: Caus. or cl. 10. (Dha1tup. xxxiii , 103) %
{lokayati} (aor. %{alulokat}) id. S3Br. Sa1h. ; to know , recognize
R. Lin3gaP. [Cf. Eng. {look}.]
1 **roka** 1 m. (1. %***{ruc}***) light , lustre , brightness RV.
iii , 6 , 7 ; = %{kraya-bhid} L. (buying with ready money W.)
[888,3] ; n. (only L.) a hole , vacuity ; a boat , ship ; = %{cara}
or %{cala} ; = %{kRpaNa-bheda}.
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[FairfieldLife] Nix ueber alles!
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[FairfieldLife] Gooooooooool!!!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Gooooooooool!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zidane: unbelievable Algerian-style goal! Seem to recall having read or heard years ago that in soccer the team first to score is the one more likely to lose the game! :0 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Yuktibhasa: dravidian keraleans invented calculus?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS in US on India Bombing: Nonviolence will prevail
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:14 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: dge. SSR's focus is on his breathing techniques, not meditation. Can you imagine MMY supporting that idea?. There was a guy called Ishvara that did the same thing. Focus on breath. Been there, done that, bought the t-shirtuseless. (Try a hug anyone? ) OffWorld Pranayama, by itself, is supposed to be a valid way to gain enlightenment. No, it's a prerequisite for certain practices, like using a mantra FWIW: YS II 52 tataH kSiiyate prakaashaavaraNam Taimni's translation: From that (caturthaH [praaNaayaamaH]? - card) is dissolved the covering of light. The same is stated in III 44, this time as a nominal sentence (suutras containing finite forms of verbs, like kSiiyate in II 52, are extremely rare): bahir akalpitaa vRttir mahaa-videhaa; *tataH prakaashaavaraNa- kSayaH*. Taimni's commentaryish translation: The power of contacting the state of consciousness which is outside the intellect and is therefore inconceivable is called /mahaa-videhaa/[great bodiless? - card]. From it is destroyed the covering of light (literally: from it light[prakaasha]-covering [aavaraNa]-destruction[kSayaH]). In which case, why doesn't SSRS have everyone learn to meditate? And you can obtain enlightenment via many different methods, at least according to Patanjali. However, MMY has always claimed that TM is the best single method out there, at least for householders. And since naiveté was high then, people bought what he was selling. Never mind it was bad information: repeat something enough, people believe it: esp. groups of people vata-ed out from rounding, hanging on your every word... I can't imagine that he's changed his mindl. No, he's still tries to sell whatever he can! Unlike yourself, who hasn't bought into anything. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Facts that SSRS folks and Vaj can't cope with.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Facts that SSRS folks and Vaj can't cope with. It sends them into convulsions, 'specially Dr. Pete. Research on SSRS technique shows that it is (quote from the scientists) inferior to electro-convulsive therapy http://www.aolresearch.org/pdf/Janakiramaiah%20et%20al%202000.pdf Hey, com'on, dude! In my understanding ECT is the last resort when nothing else seems to help! So, something being inferior to ECT doesn't necessarily mean that that smthng sucks! :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Facts that SSRS folks and Vaj can't cope with.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Facts that SSRS folks and Vaj can't cope with. It sends them into convulsions, 'specially Dr. Pete. Research on SSRS technique shows that it is (quote from the scientists) inferior to electro-convulsive therapy http://www.aolresearch.org/pdf/Janakiramaiah%20et%20al% 202000.pdf Hey, com'on, dude! In my understanding ECT is the last resort when nothing else seems to help! So, something being inferior to ECT doesn't necessarily mean that that smthng sucks! :) hmmm..the Finns have a not wholly undeserved reputation as a silent, humorless and melancholy people... http://travel2.nytimes.com/2006/07/16/travel/16helsinki.html Sad shuffle in a minor key. LOL! That's me, alright! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] brsht br lhm t h shmm v t h rts
n m ndrstndng th ldst bbl hbrw mnscpts wld -- mtts mtds, LL -- lk smthng lk ths f trnsltrtd. Am I right or am I wrong? Example: hvl hvlm mr khlt hvl hvlm hkl hvl! (The only one I can remember, in addition to the one on the headline.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Price of gold during the big siddhis courses? : )
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[FairfieldLife] Re: brsht br lhm t h shmm v t h rts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: n m ndrstndng th ldst bbl hbrw mnscpts wld -- mtts mtds, LL -- lk smthng lk ths f trnsltrtd. Am I right or am I wrong? Example: hvl hvlm mr khlt hvl hvlm hkl hvl! (The only one I can remember, in addition to the one on the headline.) By the same token(?), the first verse of Rgveda would look like this: gnm l prhtm ygysy dvm rtvjm htrm rtndhtmm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Price of gold during the big siddhis courses? : )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://images.collectors.com/coins/graphs/30yrau.jpg Since gold prices tend to rise during periods of international instability and crisis, you'd better hope that the peaks don't correspond to the course dates. :-) Well, for myself and, I guess, some others in my siddhis course (1978/79) the times right after the course were amongst the most awful in my life. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM makes one more neurotically disturbed?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- sparaig sparaig@ wrote: There are plenty of scenarios where any number of states might have no qualities that one can remember. If you can't remember any qualities, than its a state without qualities. And pure consciousness has no qualities. It is outside of the mind. The mind can only appreciate pure consciousness as emptiness. Actually, technically, the claim is that Pure Consciousness has three qualities though these aren't experienceable per se: Sat-chit-ananda... FWIW, 'sat' is an interesting word. I think it's the neuter singular nominative form of the present participle of the verb 'as' (to be). Thus, the closest English equivalent would, I guess, be 'being'. One might expect it to be 'asat', but several other forms of that verb drop the initial 'a', for instance, 'asmi'([I] am), but 'santi' ([they] are). Thus, 'asat', of course, is the opposite of 'sat', prolly to be translated literally to 'non-being', or stuff. IMO, the coolest sentence those two words appear in a Vedic text is the first line of Rgveda X 129 (Hymn of Creation): naasadaasiinno sadaasiittadaaniim (without sandhi: na; asat; aasiit; na; u; sat; aasiit; tadaaniim) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Nice historical, hysterical soap from Russia
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[FairfieldLife] Sorry, just killing time...
Bhoja's comment on YF-suutra: kaayaH paañca-bhautikaM shariiraM tasyaakaashenaavakaashadaayakenayaH saMbandhas tatra saMyamaM vidhaaya laghuni tuulaadausamaapattiM tanmayii-bhaava-lakSaNaaM ca vidhaaya praaptaati-laghu-bhaavo yogii prathamaM yathaaruci jale saMcaran krameNorNa-naabha-tantu-jaalena saMcaramaaNa aadityarasmibhish ca viharanyatheSTam aakaashena gacchati kRSNa-dvaipaayana-vyaasa's: yatra kaayas tatraakaashaM tasyaavakaashadaanaatkaayasya tena sambandhaH praaptistatra kRtasaMyamo jitvaa tatsaMbandhaMlaghuSu vaa tuulaadiSva paramaanubhyaH samaapattiM labdhvaajitasaMbandho laghurbhavati . laghutvaacca jale paadaabhyaaMviharati . tatas tuurNaabhitantumaatre vihRtya rashmiSu viharati .tato yatheSTamakaashagatirasya bhavatiiti . Both commentators seem to suggest that the first stage of "aakaasha-gamanam" (Yogic Flying) is walking on water (jale) __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Awsome!
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[FairfieldLife] Just for fun!
The akSara-s for biija-mantra-s are usually written with a dot on the upper right, like /kliiM/ here: http://www.religiousworlds.com/mandalam/island.htm The dot represents the sound called /anu-svaara/ or, I believe, also /anu-naasika/, whose phonetic properties are a bit, well, volatile, or stuff. Thus, repeating a biija-mantra might be a form of /naasika-antar-madhya- saMyama/ mentioned in Shiva-suutra... :0 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Alarik rulez!
Fantastic presentation by Alarik Arenander, including a real time EEG of YF! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] How did Donald get Louie, Huey and Dewey, in 1937
Dear Donald! I am sending your angel nephews, Louie, Huey and Dewey, to stay with you while their father is in the hospital. A giant firecracker exploded under his chair. The little darlings are so playful. I hope you enjoy them. Your cousin Della! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The best of Louie, Huey and Dewey: omniscience and levitation (of a computer)?
L, H and D (Tick, Trick und Track) would just like to play baseball. That's why their grades in school are lousy. They go to Gyro Gearloose (Daniel Düsentrieb) for him to make them omniscient. Daniel: Na, Kinderchen, ihr seht ja aus wie sieben Tage Regenwetter. Warum denn? Trick: Wegen der Schularbeiten! Man sollte gleich bei der Geburt schon alles wissen. Das wär' gescheichter. Tick:Ja, oder das Wissen mit einer Pille einnehmen können, wie Vitamine! D:Genau das habe ich mir auch überlegt. T: Haben Sie etwa so eine Pille? D Nun, ich arbeite gerade daran, und ich glaube, ich bin so weit, daB wir einen Versuch machen können. T:Ist das der Apparat, mit dem Weisheitspillen gemacht werden? D: Genau! Ich habe alles Wissen zusammengefaBt und auf einem Mikrofilm aufgenommen. T: Na und? Was haben wir davon? D:Viel! Wir füttern nur den Computer damit, der verdaut den Wissenstoff und verarbeitet ihn zu Pillen. T: Na, ich bin neugierig! T: Ihr Computer kaut und würgt schon ganz schön an dem Mikrofilm D:So ist das eben. Er verarbeitet den Stoff. Dazu ist er ja da. (KLACKETY-KLACK! R KLICK!) T: **Huch, Ihr Computer geht in die Luft!** D: Ich werde ihm doch nicht zu viel Wissensstoff zugemutet haben? -- Micky Maus, Heft 25, Juni 1969 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:51 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
It is a marketing term based on the name of the sutra.
Do the Yoga Sutras actually call it flying?
Well, the flying suutra goes like this:
kaayaakaashayoH saMbandha-saMyamaal laghu-tuula-samaapattesh
caakaasha-gamanam (ca + aakaasha-gamanam).
Now, the form (without sandhi) samaapatteH is ablative/genitive
singular of samaapatti. As a noun, according to CDSL, it doesn't
have the meaning 'flying', but it seems rather safe to assume
that its root, sorta, is the verb samaapat. Here are the
meanings for the noun and the verb:
samApatti f. coming together , meeting , encountering Ka1lid. ;
accident , chance (see comp.) ; falling into any state or condition ,
getting , becoming (comp.) Yogas. ; assuming an original form ,
APra1t. ; completion , conclusion [...]
samApat P. %{-patati} , to fly together towards , rush violently
upon , attack , assail (acc.) MBh. R. c. ; to descend , alight
VarBr2S. ; to come together , be united sexually with (%{saha})
MBh. ; to come to , attain ib.
Thus, Patañjali might have hmmm...embedded(?) flying together
in that suutra...or, then again, praps not... Nyt tämä poika
lähti *askalle! :)
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[FairfieldLife] Whoa!
Some Super Star paNDita doing puuja just now! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Does my memory play tricks with me once again?
I seem to recall being mentioned during my siddhis course that one purpose of Sun, Moon and Polar Star (suurya, candra, dhruva) is to be of help in navigation during Flying. Be it as it may, both Vyaasa and Bhojadeva mention rays in their comments on YF-suutra. The relevant passage in YS-bhaashya goes like this, I believe: tatas tuurNanaabhitantumaatre vihRtya rashmiSu viharati (tataH; tu; uurNa-naabhi-tantu-maatre...) My attempt at translation: But then (after having been able to walk on water) having walked on a mere warp(?) of a spider's web he moves on in (on?) rays (rashmi_Su: locative plural of rashmi). Bhojadeva: [...] aadityarashmibhishca viharanyatheSTam aakaashena gacchati. (aaditya-rashmibhiH; ca; viharan; yathaa; iSTam...) ... moving (viharan) with the rays of sun ([aaditya]-rashmi_bhiH: instrumental plural of rashmi ) he goes (gacchati) by(?) aakaasha (aakaashena: instrumental singular of aakaasha) as (yathaa) he wishes (iSTam). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dasa Sloki of Adi Sankara
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dasa Sloki of Sankara: Translated by P.R.Ramachander (These ten verses of philosophy are the essence of the thoughts of Sankara, the philosopher. There are two stories about its origin. One says that when Adhi Sankara approached Sage Govinda Pada and requested him to make him his disciple, then it seems Govinda Pada asked the young boy, Who are you? and this is his reply. Another story tells that when Sankara said that he is about to leave this earth, his disciples wanted to tell them all his teachings in a summary form and this is the reply. Swami Madhusudhana Sarawathi has written a commentary called Sidhantha Bindu on these ten verses.) Na bhoomir na thoyam na thejo na vayu, Na Kham nendriyam vaa na thesham samooha, And the same in (modified) Harvard-Kyoto -transliteration convention: na bhuumir na toyaM na tejo na vaayu, na khaM nendriyaM vaa na teSaaM samuuha, and so on Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inversion Tables
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, heshiepothead heshiepothead@ wrote: Anyone here use them for back problems? I'm curious about results. I've got a couple of problem spots in mid-back and lower back, and yoga/chiropractic/exercise, etc. nothing seems to work right now and someone suggested an inversion table. Appreciated HP I've had fairly good results using small magnets attached the north pole against skin. But they may not work if your condition is extremely severe. Have you tried MAK, both types? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inversion Tables
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, heshiepothead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, heshiepothead heshiepothead@ wrote: Anyone here use them for back problems? I'm curious about results. I've got a couple of problem spots in mid-back and lower back, and yoga/chiropractic/exercise, etc. nothing seems to work right now and someone suggested an inversion table. Appreciated HP I've had fairly good results using small magnets attached the north pole against skin. But they may not work if your condition is extremely severe. Thanks for your magnet recommendation. I sleep on a full magnet mattress pad given to me by someone who sells Nikken magnet stuff. Nuttin' happened, but I do like sleeping on it. Ya gotsta have potential difference between that sick area and the rest of yer body! Like electro-magnetic saMyama... Sleeping on a full magnet mattress doesn't render that. Naah, just kidding! (Or am I...? :) ) Have you tried MAK, both types? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mushrooms are truly magic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coshlnx coshlnx@ wrote: --- from New Scientist, p. 5, July 15, 2006: Magic mushrooms, revered for their hallucinogenic effects, really do produce a spiritual high. Almost two-thirds of people given the active ingredient, psilocybin, said they had a full mystical experience, unlike when they took the amphetamine-like stimulant methylphenidate, while a third said their trip was the most spiritually significant of their lives. --- --- So how does one define spiritual high? The TM spiritual high isn't all that impressive, experentially: nothing happens. That's certainly the case in my case. The only thing that happens to me during PV TM is I occasionally stop breathing for a couple of seconds or so, and my breathing most of the time of a session is really shallow. OTOH, when I last time did my own version of NAMS, I got amongst other thing a fairly sudden (partial) hard on. I have a poor sense of direction, it seems my kuNDalii has that, too... :/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A pike attacked again!
Hauki hyökkäsi taas (a pike attacked again): http://www.iltasanomat.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/uutinen.asp?id=1207973 Mr Erkki Sinkkonen, 71, was bitten by a pike when he was swimming. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting phenomena on thread : Flying vs. Hopping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the practice if transcending was all that? Posting on this group has made me wonder how many people keep up with the sidhi program. I do the siddhis only very occasionally. I feel they are way too powerful for me, especially flying. I'm a sociophobic(?), probably because of my genetic makeup. I think both my parents were quite neurotic, especially my mother. My initiator told us, as I recall it, that TM won't affect ones basic character in any way. That was a bit of an disappointment for me, but despite that I've been doing basic TM quite regularly since 1976. Now, when I do flying, strange things start often happen almost immediately, that are annoying for someone suffering from social phobias, like people tending to come closer to me than without flying. That makes me feel rather uneasy. Furthermore, I tend have annoying heart arrhythmias during the day if I do flying for more than a couple of minutes. Perhaps it lowers my slightly high BP, and my heart reacts like that to a pressure remarkably lower than to what it's used to. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Non-vaastu and siddhis?
I think I heard it's rather futile to do the siddhis program in an ugly mostly non-vaastu building like this (upstairs of a bus station): http://www.uta.fi/campus/992/lasema.htm But, it's only about half a mile from my whereabouts: http://tinyurl.com/rd382 (My apartment is extremely non-vaastu even compared to that one on sale.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Sanskrit compound of the day : )
sarvatragAminIpratipattijJAnabala n. the faculty of knowing the means of going everywhere (one of the 10 faculties of a Tatha1gata) , Dharnias. 76. Hmmm...sarvatra-gaaminii-prati-patti-jñaana-bala? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: an overlooked kriya - out of body travel.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Technically, none. However there are three styles of out of body travel (Skt.: AmAzaya), Where did you find that word? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gaza July 13, 2006 (just before current conflict) Israel kills family of nine in their sleep. http://tinyurl.com/ovdd4 That was hardly intentional. I believe it's called collateral damage or something, and thus it doesn't count! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: So there is no global warming, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heatwave? In Iowa? Blimey. Blimey? For some reason reminds me of On the buses :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel Needs Yogic Fliers to Beat Hizbullah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Gaza July 13, 2006 (just before current conflict) Israel kills family of nine in their sleep. http://tinyurl.com/ovdd4 That was hardly intentional. I believe it's called collateral damage or something, and thus it doesn't count! You must be joking ! Bingo! I think that would be called irony. Perhaps I should have indicated it somehow... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi once said that he could enlighten someone in minutes, but it would take 4 strong men to hold the person down as they transform, and would be too much for the person. Which ties in what Bob has been saying about Maharishi rieghning in the fast progress of evolution for the world. OffWorld You would burn up instantly - Maharishi, Germany 1982. Answering a question from an impatient soul why he just didn't make us all enlightened right away. 2 much tapas? tapas n. warmth , heat ([EMAIL PROTECTED] , the 5 fires to which a devotee exposes himself in the hot season , viz. 4 fires lighted in the four quarters and the sun burning from above Mn. vi , 23 R. BhP. iv BrahmaP. ; cf. Ragh. xiii , 41) RV. AV. VS. Sa1n3khS3r. ; pain , suffering RV. vii , 82 , 7 ; religious austerity , bodily mortification , penance , severe meditation , special observance (e.g. ` sacred learning ' with Bra1hmans , ` protection of subjects ' with Kshatriyas , ` giving alms to Bra1hmans ' with Vais3yas , ` service ' with S3u1dras , and ` feeding upon herbs and roots ' with R2ishis Mn. xi , 236) RV. ix , 113 , 2 ; x (personified , 83 , 2 f. 101 , 1 , ` father of Manyu ' RAnukr.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Karate-Kat?
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[FairfieldLife] Components of Hindu culture??
Indo-European: mainly intuitive, metaphysical, shamanistic? Dravidian: mainly intellectual, analytical, etc? http://lachschon.gamigo.de/slide.php?id=52382- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/zAINmC/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] *****cendence (puruSa?) and ****ition (praatibha [jñaana])
(Just killing time, waiting keenly for the stock market
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Vyaasa's comment on YS III 36 (in part):
praatibhaatsuukSmavyavahitaviprakRSTaatiitaanaagatajñaanam
(?praatibhaat suukSma-vyavahita-viprakRSTa-ati_ita-an_aagata-
jñaanam?)
An attempt at translation:
From intuition (follows)-- knowledge of (things that are) suukSma
(suukshma)
sUkSma mf(%{A})n. (prob. connected with %{sUci} , p. 1241 , col. 1)
minute , small , fine , thin , narrow , short , feeble , trifling ,
insignificant , unimportant (with %{artha} m. ` a trifling
matter ' ) Ya1jn5. MBh. c. ; acute , subtle , keen (understanding
or mental operation ; %{am} ind.) Kat2hUp. R. c. ; nice , exact ,
precise Col. ; subtle , atomic , intangible Up. Sa1m2khyak.
(knowledge of [things that are]) vyavahita
1 vyavahita mfn. placed apart or asunder c. ; separated , not
contiguous or immediately connected Pra1t. ; interrupted ,
obstructed , disturbed S3ak. ; screened from view , concealed ,
covered S3am2k. ; hostile , opposed BhP. ; remote , distant BhP. ;
passed over , surpassed , excelled , put to shame W. ; done , acted ,
performed ib.
(knowledge of [things that are]) viprakRSTa (vi_pra-krishta)
viprakRSTa mfn. dragged or drawn apart c. ; remote , distant , a
long way off R.: Pan5cat. Sus3r. (with gen. or abl. Pa1n2. 2-3 , 34 ;
%{-TAdAgataH} , come from afar ib. ii , 1 , 39 Sch.) ; remote in rank
see %{a-vip-} - protracted , lengthened MW. ; %{-tva} n. remoteness ,
distance MBh. ; %{-TA7ntara} mfn. separated by a long distance S3ak.
(knowledge of) ati-ita
atIta mfn. gone by , past , passed away , dead ; one who has gone
through or got over or beyond , one who has passed by or neglected ;
negligent ; passed , left behind ; excessive ; m. N. of a particular
S3aiva sect ; (%{am}) n. the past.
(knowledge of) an-aa_gata
anAgata mfn. ( %{gam}) , not come , not arrived [27,3] ; future ; not
attained , not learnt ; unknown ; (%{am}) n. the future.
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[FairfieldLife] Sanskrit at its worst?
Giitaa XIV 10: rajas tamash caabhibhuuya sattvaM bhavati bhaarata rajaH sattvaM tamash caiva tamaH sattvaM rajas tathaa (without sandhi: rajaH; tamaH; ca; abhi-bhuuya sattvam; bhavati; bhaarata; rajaH; sattvam; tamaH; ca; eva; tamaH; sattvam; rajaH; tathaa) Swami Gambhirananda's(sp?) translation: 14.10 O scion of the Bharata dynasty, sattva increases by subduing rajas and tamas, rajas by overpowering sattva and tamas, and tamas by dominating over sattva and rajas. Because 'sattvam', 'rajas' and 'tamas' are neuter gender words, their accusative (dvitiiyaa vibhakti, English: objective, like 'him' from 'he', or 'whom' from 'who') doesn't differ from their nominative case form. Thus, because the word order in Sanskrit is much freer than that of, say, English, it's up to the reader to decide, which ones of the forms on each line are the objects, ie. those that are overpowered, and which one is the overpowerer... :0 To not to get confused, ya gotsta look at the forms in the desandhied verse in parentheses. Well, Sanskrit is an SOV (subject object verb) language, so the most natural word order has subject as the first noun in the nominative case form, but in the Giitaa and other such texts the word order can be rather confusing at times. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit at its worst?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giitaa XIV 10: rajas tamash caabhibhuuya sattvaM bhavati bhaarata rajaH sattvaM tamash caiva tamaH sattvaM rajas tathaa (without sandhi: rajaH; tamaH; ca; abhi-bhuuya sattvam; bhavati; bhaarata; rajaH; sattvam; tamaH; ca; eva; tamaH; sattvam; rajaH; tathaa) Just for fun and time-killing, an attempt at word-for-word translation: rajas and tamas having overpowered sattva becomes, O Bhaarata rajas sattva and certainly(?) tamas , tamas sattva rajas also(?). Swami Gambhirananda's(sp?) translation: 14.10 O scion of the Bharata dynasty, sattva increases by subduing rajas and tamas, rajas by overpowering sattva and tamas, and tamas by dominating over sattva and rajas. Because 'sattvam', 'rajas' and 'tamas' are neuter gender words, their accusative (dvitiiyaa vibhakti, English: objective, like 'him' from 'he', or 'whom' from 'who') doesn't differ from their nominative case form. Thus, because the word order in Sanskrit is much freer than that of, say, English, it's up to the reader to decide, which ones of the forms on each line are the objects, ie. those that are overpowered, and which one is the overpowerer... :0 To not to get confused, ya gotsta look at the forms in the desandhied verse in parentheses. Well, Sanskrit is an SOV (subject object verb) language, so the most natural word order has subject as the first noun in the nominative case form, but in the Giitaa and other such texts the word order can be rather confusing at times. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Three-fold happiness, part 1: sattvic (saattvikaM sukham)
sukhaM tvidaaniiM (tu + idaaniim) trividhaM shRNu me bharatarSabha . abhyaasaad ramate yatra duHkhaantaM ca nigacchati .. 18\-36.. 18.36. O best among the Bharatas! Now from Me you must also listen to the three-fold happiness where one gets delighted by practice, and attains the end of suffering. yat tad agre viSam iva pariNaame 'mRtopamam tat sukhaM saattvikaM proktam aatma-buddhi-prasaada-jam. 18\-37.. 18.37. [The happiness] which is like poison at its time but is like nectar at the time of its result-that happiness, born of serenity of the Soul and intellect, you must know to be of the Sattva (Strand). Translation by Dr. Sankaranarayan To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Recording the Beatles
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Recording the Beatles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: http://recordingthebeatles.com/ Defunct?? Naah... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Hey Sally, its been a while. So the real question is whether you use the affected Mahaarshi or the old school Maharishi! Remember when everyone started making that switch? Then they started with the Ayur Ved, instead of Ayur Veda. So many ways to sound special! Or, only one way to pronounce Sanskrit correctly? From what I understand, most Sanskrit scholars believe that the pundits with Southern Indian accents are closer to accurate than the ones with Northern accents like MMY has. I believe the Southern pandits usually speak a Dravidian language (Wiki: tamil, telugu, malayalam, kannada) as their mother tongue. Somewhat paradoxically, the Northern languages related to Sanskrit might perhaps distort the pronunciation of Northern pandits. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Nokia's atmosphere?
I sometimes bike to Nokia (the cell phones, y'know?!)which is a small town of about 3 inhabitants, some 10 miles away from where I live. It's really weird how the atmosphere changes almost right away after one crosses the border between Nokia and my home town, Tampere. Although I don't like everything in Nokia's general feeling, Nokia's suburban areas seem much more energetic and lively than the corresponding areas in Tampere. Perhaps that's somehow related to ME, although, AFAIK, there are lots more TMers in Tampere than in Nokia. But I have no idea how many of those who started TM here in the 70's still do it regularly. Perhaps just a very small percentage. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Shankara on Giitaa XIII 13
GYeyaM yattatpravakShyaami yajGYaatvaamR^itamashnute . anaadi matparaM brahma na sattannaasaduchyate .. 13\-13.. Note that the transliteration above is apparently by a Hare Krishna. The Devanaagarii even in Swami Prabhupaada's As It Is has it anaadimatparaM brahma, and the Roman as anaadimat paraM brahma, although technically there would be no need to write anaadi and mat together if one is for the Vaishnava(?) interpretation of those words that Shankara below objects to. On the other hand, accoding to the rules of DN, mat and param are to be written together, which actually makes the Hare Krishna interpretation feasible. (There might be something missing below, because the pd-file was for me rather difficult to cut and paste.) Shankara's commentary on Giitaa XIII 13, translated by Swami Gambhirananda 13.13 Pravaksyami, I shall speak of, fully describe just as it is; tat, that; yat, which; is jenyam, to be known. In order to interest the hearer through inducement, the Lord speaks of what its result is: Jnatva, by realizing; yat, which Knowable; asnute, one attains; amrtam, Immortality, i.e.; he does not die again. Anadimat, without beginning-one having a beginning (adi) is adimat; one not having a beginning is anadimat. What is that? The param, supreme, unsurpassable; brahma, Brahman, which is under discussion as the Knowable. Here, some split up the phrase anadimatparam as anadi and matparam because, if the word anadimat is taken as a Bahuvrihi compound, ['That which has no (a), beginning (adi) is anadi.' Matup is used to denote possession. Since the idea of possession is a already implied in anadi, therefore matup, if added after it, becomes redundant.] then the suffix mat (matup) becomes redundant, which is undesirable. And they show a distintive meaning: (Brahman is anadi, beginningless, and is) matparam, that of which I am the supreme (para) power called Vasudeva. Trully, the redundance could be avoided in this way if that meanig were possible. But that meaning is not possible, because what is intended is to make Brahman known only through a negation of all attributes by saying, 'It is called neither being nor non-being.' It is contradictory to show a possession of a distinctive power and to negate attributes. Therefore, although matup and a bahuvrihi compound convey the same meaning of 'possession', its (matup's) use is for completing the verse. [The Commentator accepts anadimat as a nan-tatpurusa compund. If, however, the Bahuvrihi is insisted on, then the mat after anadi should be taken as completing the number of syllables needed for versification. So, nat need not be compounded with param.] Having aroused an interest through inducement by saying, 'The Knowable which has Immortality as its result is beeing spoken of by Me,' the Lord says: Tat, that Knowable; ucyate, is called; na sat, neither being; nor is it called asat, non-being. Objection: After strongly girding up the loins and declaring with a loud voice, 'I shall speak of the Knowable,' is it not incongruous to say, 'That is called neither being nor non-being'? Reply: No. What has been said is surely consistent. Objection: How? Reply: For in all the Upanisads, the Knowable, i.e. Brahman, has been indicated only by negation of all attributes-'Not this, not this' (Br. 4.4.22), 'Not gross, not subtle' (op. cit. 3.3.8), etc.; but not as 'That is this', for It is beyond speech. Objection: Is it not that a thing which cannot be expressed by the word 'being' does not exist? Like-wise, if the Knowable cannot be expressed by the word 'being', It does not exist. And it is contradictory to say, 'It is the Knowable', and 'It cannot be expressed by the word being.' Counter- objection: As to that, no that It does not exist, because It is not the object of the idea, 'It is non-being.' Objection: Do not all cognitions verily involve the idea of being or non-being? This being so, the Knowable should either be an object of a cognition involving the idea of existence, or it should be an object of a cognition involving the idea of non-existence. Reply: No, because, by virtue of Its being super- sensuous, It is not an object of cognition involving either, of the two ideas. Indeed, any object perceivable by the senses, such as pot etc., can be either an object of cognition involving the idea of existence, or it can be an object of cognition involving the idea of non-existence. But this Knowable, being supersensuous and known from the scriptures, which are the sole means of (Its) knowledge, is not, like pot etc., an object of cognition involving either of the two ideas. Therefore It is called neither being nor non-being. As for your objection that it is contradictory to say, 'It is the Knowable, but it is neither called being nor non- being,'-it is not contradictory; for the Upanisad says, 'That (Brahman) is surely different from the known and, again, It is above the unknown' (Ke. 1.4). Objection: May it not be that even the Upanisad
[FairfieldLife] Gyro's contemplation cap?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara on Giitaa XIII 13
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GYeyaM yattatpravakShyaami yajGYaatvaamR^itamashnute . anaadi matparaM brahma na sattannaasaduchyate .. 13\-13.. Clarifying, without sandhi: jñeyam; yat; tat; pravakSyaami; yat; jñaatvaa; amRtam; ashnute | an_aadimat; param (Vaishnava[?]: an_aadi; mat-param); brahma; na; sat; tat; na; asat; ucyate Note that the transliteration above is apparently by a Hare Krishna. The Devanaagarii even in Swami Prabhupaada's As It Is has it anaadimatparaM brahma, and the Roman as anaadimat paraM brahma, although technically there would be no need to write anaadi and mat together if one is for the Vaishnava(?) interpretation of those words that Shankara below objects to. On the other hand, accoding to the rules of DN, mat and param are to be written together, which actually makes the Hare Krishna interpretation feasible. (There might be something missing below, because the pd-file was for me rather difficult to cut and paste.) Shankara's commentary on Giitaa XIII 13, translated by Swami Gambhirananda 13.13 Pravaksyami, I shall speak of, fully describe just as it is; tat, that; yat, which; is jenyam, to be known. In order to interest the hearer through inducement, the Lord speaks of what its result is: Jnatva, by realizing; yat, which Knowable; asnute, one attains; amrtam, Immortality, i.e.; he does not die again. Anadimat, without beginning-one having a beginning (adi) is adimat; one not having a beginning is anadimat. What is that? The param, supreme, unsurpassable; brahma, Brahman, which is under discussion as the Knowable. Here, some split up the phrase anadimatparam as anadi and matparam because, if the word anadimat is taken as a Bahuvrihi compound, ['That which has no (a), beginning (adi) is anadi.' Matup is used to denote possession. Since the idea of possession is a already implied in anadi, therefore matup, if added after it, becomes redundant.] then the suffix mat (matup) becomes redundant, which is undesirable. And they show a distintive meaning: (Brahman is anadi, beginningless, and is) matparam, that of which I am the supreme (para) power called Vasudeva. Trully, the redundance could be avoided in this way if that meanig were possible. But that meaning is not possible, because what is intended is to make Brahman known only through a negation of all attributes by saying, 'It is called neither being nor non-being.' It is contradictory to show a possession of a distinctive power and to negate attributes. Therefore, although matup and a bahuvrihi compound convey the same meaning of 'possession', its (matup's) use is for completing the verse. [The Commentator accepts anadimat as a nan-tatpurusa compund. If, however, the Bahuvrihi is insisted on, then the mat after anadi should be taken as completing the number of syllables needed for versification. So, nat need not be compounded with param.] Having aroused an interest through inducement by saying, 'The Knowable which has Immortality as its result is beeing spoken of by Me,' the Lord says: Tat, that Knowable; ucyate, is called; na sat, neither being; nor is it called asat, non-being. Objection: After strongly girding up the loins and declaring with a loud voice, 'I shall speak of the Knowable,' is it not incongruous to say, 'That is called neither being nor non-being'? Reply: No. What has been said is surely consistent. Objection: How? Reply: For in all the Upanisads, the Knowable, i.e. Brahman, has been indicated only by negation of all attributes-'Not this, not this' (Br. 4.4.22), 'Not gross, not subtle' (op. cit. 3.3.8), etc.; but not as 'That is this', for It is beyond speech. Objection: Is it not that a thing which cannot be expressed by the word 'being' does not exist? Like-wise, if the Knowable cannot be expressed by the word 'being', It does not exist. And it is contradictory to say, 'It is the Knowable', and 'It cannot be expressed by the word being.' Counter- objection: As to that, no that It does not exist, because It is not the object of the idea, 'It is non-being.' Objection: Do not all cognitions verily involve the idea of being or non-being? This being so, the Knowable should either be an object of a cognition involving the idea of existence, or it should be an object of a cognition involving the idea of non-existence. Reply: No, because, by virtue of Its being super- sensuous, It is not an object of cognition involving either, of the two ideas. Indeed, any object perceivable by the senses, such as pot etc., can be either an object of cognition involving the idea of existence, or it can be an object of cognition involving the idea of non-existence. But this Knowable, being supersensuous and known from the scriptures, which are the sole means of (Its) knowledge, is not, like pot etc., an object of cognition involving either of the two
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting Doonesbury
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's interesting to me that this forum shows no consensus as to whether superradiance works. Most of us have fond memories of big courses. Most of us thought at one time superradiance was valid. I've run across variations of the theory outside the TM organization. Yet the sense of the meeting, from what I can determine, is undetermined. This is a case where I'd like to see some kind of opinion poll like those Trudeau posts at his site. I believe it works somehow, but I'm not sure whether the immediate results of large groups of YFfers would be considered mostly positive or mostly negative(IMO, accelerated ripening of collective karma, both good, and, unfortunately, prolly especially bad). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel gives an inch?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listen to how Joshua and Caleb describe the inhabitants of Canaan the people who rightfully possess the land the Israelites want to seize: Have no fear then of the people of the country, for they are our prey (my italics). Preythat's a breathtaking and sinister word! Again we're reminded that the Torah is not aspiring to be a book for everyone. It is not preaching universal truth for all men. It is the work of a single tribe at war with everyone around it. Their enemies were not human: They were prey. http://www.slate.com/id/2146473/entry/2146669/?nav=tap3 One of the most absurd passages I've encountered in the Bible is this one from 2. Kings: 23 And he went up from thence unto Beth-el; and as he was going up by the way, there came forth young lads out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou baldhead; go up, thou baldhead. 24 And he looked behind him and saw them, and cursed them in the name of Jehovah. And there came forth two she-bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two lads of them. 25 And he went from thence to mount Carmel, and from thence he returned to Samaria. It's weird that most English translations have she-bears, but Vulgata has duo ursi, which is a masculine expression. Corresponding feminine would IMO be duae ursae. 24 qui cum se respexisset vidit eos et maledixit eis in nomine Domini egressique sunt duo ursi de saltu et laceraverunt ex eis quadraginta duos pueros To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Shrii Shankara's commentary on II 45
Translation by Swami Gambhirananda 2.45 To those who are thus devoid of discriminating wisdom, who indulge in pleasure, [Here Ast. adds 'yat phalam tad aha, what result accrues, that the Lord states:'-Tr.] O Arjuna, vedah, the Vedas; traigunya-visayah, have the three qualities as their object, have the three gunas, [Traigunya means the collection of the three qualities, viz sattva (purity), rajas (energy) and tamas (darkness); i.e. the collection of virtuous, vicious and mixed activities, as also their results. In this derivative sense traigunya means the worldly life.] i.e. the worldly life, as the object to be revealed. But you bhava, become; nistraigunyah, free from the three qualities, i.e. be free from desires. [There is a seeming conflict between the advices to be free from the three qualities and to be ever-poised in the quality of sattva. Hence, the Commentator takes the phrase nistraigunya to mean niskama, free from desires.] (Be) nirdvandvah, free from the pairs of duality -- by the word dvandva, duality, are meant the conflicting pairs [Of heat and cold, etc.] which are the causes of happiness and sorrow; you become free from them. [From heat, cold, etc. That is, forbear them.] You become nitya-sattvasthah, ever-poised in the quality of sattva; (and) so also niryoga-ksemah, without (desire for) acquisition and protection. Yoga means acquisition of what one has not, and ksema means the protection of what one has. For one who as 'acquisition and protection' foremost in his mind, it is difficult to seek Liberation. Hence, you be free from acquisition and protection. And also be atmavan, self-collected, vigilant. This is the advice given to you while you are engaged in your own duty. [And not from the point of view of seeking Liberation.] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shrii Shankara's commentary on II 45
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Translation by Swami Gambhirananda 2.45 To those who are thus devoid of discriminating wisdom, who indulge in pleasure, [Here Ast. adds 'yat phalam tad aha, what result accrues, that the Lord states:'-Tr.] O Arjuna, vedah, the Vedas; traigunya-visayah, have the three qualities as their object, have the three gunas, [Traigunya means the collection of the three qualities, viz sattva (purity), rajas (energy) and tamas (darkness); i.e. the collection of virtuous, vicious and mixed activities, as also their results. In this derivative sense traigunya means the worldly life.] i.e. the worldly life, as the object to be revealed. But you bhava, become; nistraigunyah, free from the three qualities, i.e. be free from desires. [There is a seeming conflict between the advices to be free from the three qualities and to be ever-poised in the quality of sattva. Hence, the Commentator takes the phrase nistraigunya to mean niskama, free from desires.] (Be) nirdvandvah, free from the pairs of duality -- by the word dvandva, duality, are meant the conflicting pairs [Of heat and cold, etc.] which are the causes of happiness and sorrow; you become free from them. [From heat, cold, etc. That is, forbear them.] You become nitya- sattvasthah, ever-poised in the quality of sattva; (and) so also niryoga-ksemah, without (desire for) acquisition and protection. Yoga means acquisition of what one has not, and ksema means the protection of what one has. For one who as 'acquisition and protection' foremost in his mind, it is difficult to seek Liberation. Hence, you be free from acquisition and protection. And also be atmavan, self-collected, vigilant. This is the advice given to you while you are engaged in your own duty. [And not from the point of view of seeking Liberation.] A vishiSTaadvaita view of the same (Shrii Raamaanuja): 2.45 The word Traigunya means the three Gunas --- Sattva, Rajas and Tamas. Here the term Traigunya denotes persons in whom Sattva, Rajas and Tamas are in abundance. The Vedas in prescribing desire-oriented rituals (Kamya-karmas) have such persons in view. Because of their great love, the Vedas teach what is good to those in whom Tamas, Rajas and Sattva preponderate. If the Vedas had not explained to these persons the means for the attainment of heaven etc., according to the Gunas, then those persons who are not interested in liberation owing to absence of Sattva and preponderance of Rajas and Tamas in them, would get completely lost amidst what should not be resorted to, without knowing the means for attaining the results they desire. Hence the Vedas are concerned with the Gunas. Be you free from the three Gunas. Try to acquire Sattva in abundance; increase that alone. The purport is: do not nurse the preponderance of the three Gunas in their state of inter-mixture; do not cultivate such preponderance. Be free from the pairs of opposites; be free from all the characteristics of worldly life. Abide in pure Sattva; be established in Sattva, in its state of purity without the admixture of the other two Gunas. If it is questioned how that is possible, the reply is as follows. Never care to acquire things nor protect what has been acquired. While abandoning the acquisition of what is not required for self-realisation, abandon also the conservation of such things already acquired. You can thus be established in self- control and thereby become an aspirant after the essentail nature of the self. 'Yoga' is acquisition of what has not been acquired; 'Ksema' is preservation of things already acquired. Abandoning these is a must for an aspirant after the essential nature of the self. If you conduct yourself in this way, the preponderance of Rajas and Tamas will be annihilated, and pure Sattva will develop. Besides, all that is taught in the Vedas is not fit to be utilised by all. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] CDSL seems to agree with Shrii Sankara Co?
anAdi mfn. having no beginning , existing from eternity. anAdimat mfn. having no beginning. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] I shall not fight!
Sanjaya said: O King, after speaking like this to Lord Krishna, the mighty Arjuna said to Krishna: I shall not fight, and became silent. (2.09) O King, Lord Krishna, as if smiling, spoke these words to the despondent Arjuna in the midst of the two armies. (2.10) The Supreme Lord said: You grieve for those who are not worthy of grief, and yet speak the words of wisdom. The wise grieve neither for the living nor for the dead. (2.11) There was never a time when I, you, or these kings did not exist; nor shall we ever cease to exist in the future. (2.12) Just as the Atma acquires a childhood body, a youth body, and an old age body during this life, similarly Atma acquires another body after death. The wise are not deluded by this. (See also 15.08) (2.13) evamuktvaa hR^ishhiikesha.n guDaakeshaH parantapaH . na yotsya iti govindamuktvaa tuushhNiiM babhuuva ha .. 2\-9.. tamuvaacha hR^ishhiikeshaH prahasanniva bhaarata . senayorubhayormadhye vishhiidantamida.n vachaH .. 2\-10.. shriibhagavaanuvaacha . ashochyaananvashochastvaM praGYaavaadaa.nshcha bhaashhase . gataasuunagataasuu.nshcha naanushochanti paNDitaaH .. 2\-11.. na tvevaaha.n jaatu naasa.n na tva.n neme janaadhipaaH . na chaiva na bhavishhyaamaH sarve vayamataH param.h .. 2\-12.. dehino.asminyathaa dehe kaumaara.n yauvana.n jaraa . tathaa dehaantarapraaptirdhiirastatra na muhyati .. 2\-13.. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Let´s meditate together '
It seems like all over the globe people on various chat forums have started to agree to meditate together at their homes at a time that's convenient for most participants. Most of them probably meditate in a style they have come up with by themselves. Here's an example of a thread on a Finnish astrological chat forum. http://tinyurl.com/f8neb Most of us don't understand much of the text, but perhaps the emoticons tell something. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: For those who love Borat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have any idea who you're talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFiSjiEb6Yg Thank God. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
