RE: OT: Pet Burial Ceremony- for Monkee
Did you find a jewelry site that you like? If so, can I have the URL? Thanks! Gina Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Glenda and Wendy for your insight. We are taking our time to plan something and won't do anything until Aug., so I still have time to think about it. It's funny though because I just found the pet loss website today on my own and it was really helpful. I liked the poems and I am really interested in the jewelry memorial websight links for cremains and I plan to get something like that. I think I could move on better if I really feel like I always have a part of Monkee with me. Thanks, Caroline - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Pet Burial Ceremony- for Monkee Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:26:15 -0700 (PDT) P.S. I am not sure if sent you the link to this pet loss site: http://www.petloss.com/ If I didn't, I apologize. It's a great site to navigate around and see all the things they have to offer. I bet you would find some things there to help. Please let us know how it goes if you feel like it. Best of luck, :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting - Missed the show? Watch videos of the Live Earth Concert on MSN. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
Re: OT: Pet Burial Ceremony- for Monkee
What a beautiful idea :) Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I have lost many pets before in my life, but with my recent loss of Monkee, I feel compelled to have some kind of ceremony honoring his life because he is the closest companion (animal or human) that I've ever had. I am really struggling with his death and the grieving process. I also want something to provide me with some closure and I thought an official ceremony might do that. Of course, I know that even though Monkee touched a lot of my friends and family, I am afraid it will only be my mom and I at the ceremony, but regardless, I still want to do it. Monkee was cremated so I don't really want to have a burial per se. I don't plan to spread his ashes or bury them...I want to keep them. I just wanted to know if anyone had any ideas for me? My mom has been doing some research to find a person to perform the ceremony and a location here in Louisville, Kentucky. If anyone has further thoughts, or a good script that we could use as a basis for the ceremony, please let me know. I appreciate it. -Caroline - Missed the show? Watch videos of the Live Earth Concert on MSN. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
Re: I need information please (Malone)
My Pippin tested positive on the ELISA test at 6 weeks of age. She tested negative on the IFA test at 6 months of age. While waiting for the second test, I fed her Innova Evo wet and dry food, gave her 500 grams of Lysine per day in her wet food, provided lots of love and low stress. My vet thinks she had a false positive on the first test, the ELISA. I can't say for sure that she threw the virus, but she is negative now and was positive then. Gina Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for the advice. I know he got it from the kitten. He had two tests both negative when he came in the home. He was tested when I picked him up from the humane society and then he was retested when Teaser was retested. They both had two tests before 1 year of age and that was when I vaccinated them for the first time. Basil had 2 other boosters. Teaser is a year older and she had been vaccinated 3 times. When my baby boy died both Basil and Teaser were retested. She is still negative but Basil was positive. My vet then said there was no reason to wait he would be like the kitten in a matter of weeks. He also felt if I kept him I would infect Teaser. I dont think he is a bad vet, but hasnt really dealt with felv much. He is really a vet for most of the ranches in the area. I have an opportunity to share what I learn here with him. That is a blessing. But now I have to wonder if he shouldnt be retested, something my vet said would only cause me more heartache. If I take him to another vet and get a different result that would prove that this virus could be fought off. I just didnt want to get my hopes up too high. That is why I was wondering if anyone here had a cat that was positive end up negative. Thank you to you, Hideyo, and Susan for the advice and assistance. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Re: OT: Really good article about Nike and Vick
I'm with you. I don't buy their products outright; do they have any subsidiaries? Gina Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7038442?MSNHPHCPGT1=10239 Pretty much says that you aren't going to get much out of Nike if you call them on their sponsorship of Vick. The underlying message to me is, let's hit Nike where it hurts them...their bottom line. Stop buying their products. I'm always up for a meaniful boycott...who's with me?! -Caroline - PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
Re: People who don't like cats/Ensie/Irony/FeLV shelters
That is so true. My husband had never been around cats until we got together. He now considers himself a cat person. He had never had any experience with cats. Now he's been loved by five over the years, and he is so attached to them. Gina wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Love this thread about people who don't like cats. What Glenda says is so true. I once saw a saying on a sticker that read, People who don't like cats have never been loved by one. So now, when I run into someone and we're casually talking about cats and they say they don't care fo them, I use that line on them. I also have noticed (guys, forgive me) that many men are more ego-driven than women. It's not a bad thing; that's just how it is. And cats do not often cater to our egos. We cater to theirs. LOLOLOLOL. So often, men say they don't like cats. Of course, if a kitty decides it likes a man, and pays attention to it, then the man will love the kitty; my husband is exactly this way. He at first said he didn't really like cats, and I came home one day to find him carrying Cricket around like a baby. LOLOLOL. You don't like cats, huh? LOL. And he loves Julie, who is indebted to him for saving her literally from the jaws of a large boxer, and now she gets up on his chest in his face; it's really cute. People I know who are particularly egotistic often do not like cats. One of my best friends is a Leo,and very ego-driven (Leos are sometimes like this), and she can't stand cats. She likes to be in the spot light. Surprisingly, she does have a new little dog, who she worships the ground he walks on, and I have to admit, he is cute as a button. My grandmother, who died recently, has always loved cats, and my father picked this up from her. I have three brothers, who all grew up loving cats, and now all of them as adults have cats and are great caretakers. So I agree that family tradition also plays a role in how a person views cats. Ensie, our new feral kitty, is sitting in her cage right now. I brought her into the computer room to enjoy the window while I'm typing. She seems to like it. She doesn't have any windows in the room she is sequestered in right now. I am going to take her into the vets in a week or so, depending on how she does with me, and have him look at her. She has to be FeLV/FIV tested, and she needs a fecal done and flea meds, also, before I let her out into gen pop. lol. She's doing great so far. Such a sweet kitty. Something really ironic happened, I thought you guys might be interested in. When I was in Greensboro, I contacted a group called The Feral Cat Assistance Program, a sub-group of Alley Cat Allies. A woman named Lisa called me back and gave me info. that helped me to trap Ensie, which was my first trap. When I got back to Texas, I called them again, and a woman named Amy answered a few of my questions about Ensie's care. The funny thing was, I told her that I had called Best Friends to do a TNR on my grandma's feral colony a few years ago and that they had called their sister group in Greensboro, which is Amy's organization. She said that they had come out to do the TNR. So I was talking to the woman responsible for getting Ensie spayed. Isn't that ironic?! Even more 'fateful', Amy said she had been stressing about three kittens that they had recently trapped and tested positive for FeLV. She said in the past, they had pts FeLV+'s because they didn't know better. Now that she did know better, she didn't have much experience with positives, so was looking to learn. I told her that I was an active member on the Feline Leukemia.org site, and she said it must have been fate that brought me along. I gave her some info. on seroconverting; basically told her there's about a 40% chance that the kittens will seroconvert. She said she was going to wait a month before retesting (IFA), and I told her she may want to wait about 3 months. The woman who is caring for the kittens said she could keep them for a while, so that will be good. She asked if I knew anyone who would take them. I only knew a few specific shelters, like Casa de Calmar at Best Friends, and the one up north that one of members was recently instrumental in seeing that it get built as an addition to a new shelter going up. Anyone else know of any close to NC? I also thought it would be great if we could add a link on the website of shelters that take FeLV+'s. Any thoughts on this? Do any of you know any shelters that are FeLV+ only? I hope you all are having a great day. FYI: Coca-Cola contacted me today and said that Mr. Vick hasn't worked for them in a while (frustrating!), so I emailed them back and asked them about Powerade, a subsidiary of Coca-Cola. I'll let you know what they say. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
Re: Monkee is gone
I'm so sad for you. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Gentle passings Monkee. Gina Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My beloved cat Monkee passed last night in my arms while I held him with my Mom standing next to my side. At about 2:30 a.m. We were going to take him to Dr. Maier's for euthanasia this morning at 8:00 a.m. I thought he could make it until then and that he wouldn't want to go to a strange emergency vet clinic he'd never been to before for his passing. I didn't know he was that bad. I feel so bad. It was so horrible. He was having some trouble breathing, but I was usually able to calm him down by holding him and giving him flower essences. He had begun to have trouble walking and he would cry at me really loudly when he wasn't able to do something he wanted to do because his brain was not getting enough oxygen (like walk around). I didn't want him to be in pain or suffer and I feel like I failed him. He did go really quick, but I was hysterical as it was happening. We were on my bed and I was holding him. He took a last gasp of air and then he stopped. When his body when limp, I felt like I might die too. I think the only thing that helped me and my mom was that she has rescue remedy with her and we both took it right away. It sounds odd to say that, but immediately after it happened, I felt a sense of peace-- for him. I think the rescue remedy helped my breathing at that time. I just held him afterwards and talked to him and pet him and kissed him for about two hours. I told him how wonderful he was and that I would never be the same without him. I walked around the house, sat with him on the porch he loved so much and took him outside for his last time to hold him while sitting on the front steps. I have never had an animal die in my arms like that and to have it be my best friend-- the best companion I've ever had...my heart just feels like it's wrenching in half. I feel guilty and traumatized. I am having a hard time erasing the memories of his passing. When I close my eyes, I see his face as he took his last breath. I don't how to recover from that. I've never been lonely since I had Monkee and now that he's gone, that loneliness is crashing in. I hope all of you are able to continue to care for your cats and give them the peace and love that they so desperately need. I admire those of you who take care of multiple FelV cats and have lost some in the past and continue to keep doing the work that you do. My thoughts and my prayers are now with all of you and your babies. I felt like I didn't have the mental energy to devote many of my prayers in the past few weeks to any cat other than Monkee, but I will be praying for you now. I also wanted to remind everyone that you never really know the power of what love can do for a cat like Monkee, until you experience it. When I found him, he was a crazy, dirty, little ragamuffin eating doves, baby rabbits, and whatever else he could catch in the courtyard of my law school apartment complex in Northern Ky 4 years ago. And four years and 1 month ago, I couldn't take his living it up in the killing fields- as I called it- anymore. It took so long to get him to be a somewhat normal cat. Something bad must have happened to him because he was already neutered when I found him, so he had to have belong to someone. He was deathly afraid of men and it took until probably about this past year for that fear to almost subside. I don't think anyone else in my life (other than myself) believed that he'd ever be trusting, cuddling, sweet, lfunny, love-bug that he was with me. The first time I turned on my radio and my tv after I had brought him into my life, he freaked out and hid under the bed for hours. After lots of love and being spoiled rotten, and having four years to experience as many things as possible, he had truly become my best friend. He would comfort me when something went horribly wrong in my life and the past 4 years have been pretty turbulent for me so he had a lot of comforting to do. He was what always cheered me up when I was at my lowest low and he was what kept going. He slept on my bed with me every night and even when I was just away for one night, I would miss him and miss having him there in the morning to wake up with. I am going to miss him so much. I also wanted to say Thank You for being such an instant support group for Monkee and I. We really needed help these past few weeks and you all really came through for us. Thank you, Caroline - Missed the show? Watch videos of the Live Earth Concert on MSN. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
Re: Keisha
I'm very sorry about Keisha. Gentle Bridge vibes to her. Gina Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Laurie -- I am so sorry about Keisha, how terrible and sudden. I know you must be feeling devastated and traumatized. Take comfort in knowing she knew how loved she was. Hugs to you. Diane R. - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:08 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Monkee is gone ~ so is Keisha Carol, I am so sorry for your loss and pain. Prayers for safe travels for Monkee's soul. Monkee is free now but nothing can compensate for the hole in your heart and life. I know. My beloved Keisha died Saturday completely unexpectedly. She went into respiratory distress here at home. I rushed her to the ER clinic. They put her in the oxygen tank and she appeared comfortable ~ she was not on her side and was no longer open mouth breathing. They planned to keep her in the tank for 2 hours and then send her home. When she went into respiratory distress again, they tried to save her ~ intubated her and gave her CPR but could not. After she died, I held her for 2 hours and stroked her fur.I am in shock and it doesn't seem real. I didn't want to leave her. We are doing a necropsy. She was not feline leukemia positive. May your Higher Power hold you as mine is holding me. Laurie - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: Monkee is gone My beloved cat Monkee passed last night in my arms while I held him with my Mom standing next to my side. At about 2:30 a.m. We were going to take him to Dr. Maier's for euthanasia this morning at 8:00 a.m. I thought he could make it until then and that he wouldn't want to go to a strange emergency vet clinic he'd never been to before for his passing. I didn't know he was that bad. I feel so bad. It was so horrible. He was having some trouble breathing, but I was usually able to calm him down by holding him and giving him flower essences. He had begun to have trouble walking and he would cry at me really loudly when he wasn't able to do something he wanted to do because his brain was not getting enough oxygen (like walk around). I didn't want him to be in pain or suffer and I feel like I failed him. He did go really quick, but I was hysterical as it was happening. We were on my bed and I was holding him. He took a last gasp of air and then he stopped. When his body when limp, I felt like I might die too. I think the only thing that helped me and my mom was that she has rescue remedy with her and we both took it right away. It sounds odd to say that, but immediately after it happened, I felt a sense of peace-- for him. I think the rescue remedy helped my breathing at that time. I just held him afterwards and talked to him and pet him and kissed him for about two hours. I told him how wonderful he was and that I would never be the same without him. I walked around the house, sat with him on the porch he loved so much and took him outside for his last time to hold him while sitting on the front steps. I have never had an animal die in my arms like that and to have it be my best friend-- the best companion I've ever had...my heart just feels like it's wrenching in half. I feel guilty and traumatized. I am having a hard time erasing the memories of his passing. When I close my eyes, I see his face as he took his last breath. I don't how to recover from that. I've never been lonely since I had Monkee and now that he's gone, that loneliness is crashing in. I hope all of you are able to continue to care for your cats and give them the peace and love that they so desperately need. I admire those of you who take care of multiple FelV cats and have lost some in the past and continue to keep doing the work that you do. My thoughts and my prayers are now with all of you and your babies. I felt like I didn't have the mental energy to devote many of my prayers in the past few weeks to any cat other than Monkee, but I will be praying for you now. I also wanted to remind everyone that you never really know the power of what love can do for a cat like Monkee, until you experience it. When I found him, he was a crazy, dirty, little ragamuffin eating doves, baby rabbits, and whatever else he could catch in the courtyard of my law school apartment complex in Northern Ky 4 years ago. And four years and 1 month ago, I couldn't take his living it up in the killing fields- as I called it- anymore. It took so long to get him to be a somewhat normal cat. Something bad must have happened to him because he was already neutered when I found him, so he had to have belong to someone. He was deathly afraid of men and it took
Re: OT: Interested in a Bobtail?
Melissa, Have you tried posting Nonie's information and pictures on Petfinder and/or Catster.com? Catster is a big community of cat lovers and you might find one who prefers bobtails. Just a thought. Good luck and thank you for providing Nonie and Ashley a safe and loving place while they await their forever homes. Gina Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disclaimer: I know this is very OT, but my computer at home checks the OT list, and Ive only got time to write this at work, plus, it seems to me that there arent very many who read or post on the OT list. Im not sure why that is but Ill be sure to forward this to my home address and post it on OT later. Anyway, delete if you arent interested in reading about my NON-FeLV bobtail (or is it Manx?I dont know the difference). Well, Nonie is one of my foster cats that I got back in April. Three strays found me in one week. Two are still at home. Cassidy, the one with FeLV, went to Best Friends and is the reason I joined this list. Nonie and Ashley are still looking for a forever home. Its tough in these parts where cat lovers are few and far between and farm cats are the only kind most people tolerate since they dont have to really take care of them. Anyhow, Im still trying to get Ashley healthy before she gets a new home, but Nonie is very healthy, rambunctious, and cute. Shes a bobtail tabby (who likes to take showers with us), and I didnt know if there are people who specifically look for those types of cats? Like all-white, all-black cats, Siamese, etc., I figured there must be people who prefer bobtails. Do any of you know of such? I really need to find these guys a home. Were spending over $90 in litter a month, which is pricey for us. Ive finally broke down and bought less expensive litter, but I still have to feed the expensive food to all (since one of my cats needs it, so all get it). I dont cook for us very much since were gone all the time in the summer, so I dont have time to cook for the kitties (but plan to in the fall/winter). Im rambling, I know, sorry! I am just looking for some resources and a good home for Nonie. Im pretty much willing to travel anywhere, but a home in the Plains/Midwest would be easiest for me. But, Ill travel anywhere for the right home. And, no, shes not a give-a-way (unless to a home with outstanding references). Sorry to bother you guys with this. I know that there are kitties pts everyday who dont have good homes (and Nonie has a good home right now), and you all have your feline limits most likely, but Im just looking for ideas. Im fairly new to the cat rescue worldand Ive found that you guys know a lot more that I do! Thanks for listening! Melissa, Nonie, Ashley, Bandit, Angel, and Baby Smokey. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!
Re: goodbye.
Jane, I am so glad MeMe is improved! Give her a little kiss for me :) Gina Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come back. Love ya M.C. elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori, shakiti, othello On 7/1/07, MaryChristine wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
Re: I am not getting all the posts
Yes, try your spam folder. Tonight I had 40+ emails from the group in my spam folder. I have no idea why so many are going there lately. Gina Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could also check your spam box. Very occasionally one of the messages from this group gets routed to my spam box...I am not sure why.. On 6/30/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: weird...maybe they will come in late. that happens to me sometimes. On 6/30/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, There is something really weird going on with my email. I am not getting all the posts and I think it's been happening for a while now. I only saw Dede's post about Ki passing when Sally replied to her. I didn't even see Leslie's or Marylyn's to Dede, but saw Dede reply to them in Sally's post. Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks, Wendy --- Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dede I am so sorry. I am always hopeful that our FELV babies will somehow beat the virus. He had a good life with you and he thanks you for all you did. Sally On 6/30/07, dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Marilyn and Leslie. Dede --- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bless you for all the love you gave Ki. When you are considering all the what ifs as we all do, consider what if you had never come into his life and how wonderful you made his life. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Ki is an Angel It is with the heaviest of hearts that I let you know Ki left this world at 10 this AM. It was sooo hard for me. I noticed last night that his belly looked really full. The way he was breathing was weird also. You could see his head and chest moving. His eyes had brightened up though, and the fever had gotten better, but it kept spiking. He even ate a few pieces of food by himself. The vet drained his belly, and it was thick straw colored with fibrin strands...heavy protein. My biggest fear was that he would crash tomorrow when I couldn't get to a vet, and he would have a horrible death. Maybe the move stressed him, or maybe I should have never put him in with most of the cats. I dunno...I could go crazy asking what if's I guess I believed he would be one of the lucky ones. He came from a horrible home...many FeLV cats and death. His siblings and mother were neg and I was sure he would beat it. It was only a faint pos. He had a fever like this last Nov, but recovered, I am so grateful for the time I had with him. He came to me the week before my beloved Smokey died. I didn't even know he was pos. but we kept him in the bedroom, and played with him, and loved and slept with him. He was a pistol, and rough to play with! I hope he doesn't forget us, and the time will come when we can all be together forever. May the Lord bless you sweet one, and keep you in his care until we meet again. Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.net/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat
Re: Ki is an Angel
I am so sorry DeDe. Gina Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DeDe... we are all so sorry for your loss. Leslie =^..^= On 6/30/07, dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is with the heaviest of hearts that I let you know Ki left this world at 10 this AM. It was sooo hard for me. I noticed last night that his belly looked really full. The way he was breathing was weird also. You could see his head and chest moving. His eyes had brightened up though, and the fever had gotten better, but it kept spiking. He even ate a few pieces of food by himself. The vet drained his belly, and it was thick straw colored with fibrin strands...heavy protein. My biggest fear was that he would crash tomorrow when I couldn't get to a vet, and he would have a horrible death. Maybe the move stressed him, or maybe I should have never put him in with most of the cats. I dunno...I could go crazy asking what if's I guess I believed he would be one of the lucky ones. He came from a horrible home...many FeLV cats and death. His siblings and mother were neg and I was sure he would beat it. It was only a faint pos. He had a fever like this last Nov, but recovered, I am so grateful for the time I had with him. He came to me the week before my beloved Smokey died. I didn't even know he was pos. but we kept him in the bedroom, and played with him, and loved and slept with him. He was a pistol, and rough to play with! I hope he doesn't forget us, and the time will come when we can all be together forever. May the Lord bless you sweet one, and keep you in his care until we meet again. Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.
Re: Now i've got something of a dilemma
Yes, the concern of infecting your current kitties is always there. I know, as I brought a FeLV+ kitten into my household last June. I decided to get all my adults vaccinated and to keep her. I found out she was negative five months later when she got the IFA test. Gina C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, it is not out of the question that I may take those kittens yet, but I have alot to think about first. For one, at least those kittens have a home. It may not be the best home in the world, but at least they have a mom, food, and shelter, and it sounds like the mom has hidden them from the dog. There are literally hundreds or more of cats/kittens around here that don't even have that, and are doomed right from the start. I would really like to get my two remaining cats retested for FeLV as well. I'm not sure how long I need to wait on that. They tested negative in March, but still may have gotten the virus over the last few months. I would feel very badly indeed if I brought kittens into the house and infected them. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Gina WN To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 1:57 AM Subject: RE: Now i've got something of a dilemma Cassandra, I didn't see your other email saying you had decided not to take them in (before I emailed the one below.) I understand your feelings and there will be those who need you out there when you are ready. Take your time. Take care, Gina Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Cassandra, I am not trying to pressure you to keep the babies. I understand the grief you are feeling over your other furbabies, as well as the practical aspects of taking them in. But...how old are the babies? Perhaps mama kitty would not abandon them while in your care. But if she did, perhaps there is a way you can bottle feed them. When we took in our two kittens (almost 15 years ago) they were seven days old. I seem to recall them eating every two hours, then it tapered off each week until they were fully weaned at eight weeks of age. At about the three week mark, on advice from the vet, we slowly began to add a bit of wet kitten food to their formula in a bowl which they began to learn to lap up. (Plus they still got the bottle.) My memory is a little fuzzy after 14+ years. lol But, at some point they started eating from a bowl and were no longer interested in the bottle. I think at about eight weeks. Anyhow, we got help from my sister who lived next door. Is there someone who can help you feed the babies while you are at work? By the way, our bottle babies are still with us. Tigger and Taylor will be 15 years old October 1st. :) Gina Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cassandra -- This is a toughie, obviously, and I have no practical advice to give, never having had young kittens. But if you can make this work it sounds like a chance for you and your husband (who sounds like a total keeper, BTW!!) to continue the good work you started with your angel kitties. These new ones wouldn't be *replacing* the three you lost, BTW, don't think of it that way. Entertain the possibility that Tomi, Kisa and Koda have something to do with finding these new babies to save. This must be so frustrating -- time isn't on your side here, you obviously can't wait till the kits' feeding schedule is less intense, or they could come to harm, but at the same time, sometimes mom cats do extreme things when they think they and their kits are in harm's way, which she might if they're captured. Is there anyone who could come in for a while and feed the kittens during the day until their feeding schedules are less intense? Or is there maybe a foster person who would give you liberal visitation rights until the kittens are older. It also seems to me that the momcat might be more tameable if the kits weren't an issue, so again, bad timing. Is there a way you could trap them and watch carefully for a while to see what her instincts seem to be when confined? Maybe if she/they were confined outside, rather than go right from barn to house, it would be less of a shock? (I'm just throwing this stuff out as it occurs to me, sorry! Hope some of it is relevant!) Diane R. - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C J Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Now i've got something of a dilemma What worries me, is this mom is used to farm life, and for starters, may not even want to live with us. If she abandons her babies by being moved here (I would lock her in a room with them, but she still could abandon them), I don't know that I am able to feed the babies, both my husband and I work mon-fri, 8 hours a day. We live 20-25 min drive away from work outside of the city. It is possible
RE: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues
You're a good mom Caroline!! You made me laugh out loud with your description of feeling weak-kneed. :) Gina Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I talked to Dr. Susan Maier (holistic) yesterday. I was having a lot of trouble myself remaining positive and I was doing a lot of crying this week about Monkee's anemia situation. She said that Monkee's has a really strong life-force and he looks really good and I need to stay positive because the blood transfusion will buy more time for her remedies to work. I asked about reversal of the anemia and asked her to look at the records of the blood results from his CBC on Tuesday at Dr. Daley's. I asked if she could tell if he had regenerative or nonregenerative anemia based on those. She said his regenerative values were all within the normal limits, but that no, she couldn't tell from the blood results. However, she told me if the anemia is brought on by the chemo, it's usually regenerative (and can thus be reversed); if the anemia is brought on by his actual Feline Leukemia, it's usually nonregenerative (and usually irreversible). I said, I guess that is why Dr. Daley talked about doing the bone marrow biopsy, because that would be the only way to really examine the marrow and be able to tell what is going on with the RBC, right? Dr. Maier said yes. I said, of course, we aren't doing a bone marrow biopsy, but now I FINALLY have a better understanding of what is going on. I know Dr. Daley is a good Vet, she's just so clinical, and soo cerebral that I don't think she explains things the way I need things explained to me. And it's not that I am dumb, it's just that this is my first FelV+ cat- and unlike her, I haven't been through this (sadly) a million times with other FelV+ cats. Also, when I am sitting there crying my eyes out at what she is saying to me, I really need her to slow down and talk to me like I am a dumb baby! So, I am kind of having an issue with that right now. Dr. Maier said that I can call her anytime to bounce ideas off of her or ask for clarification about something so I thought that was very refreshing. I have also put a call into Monkee's original Vet, Dr. Jones at the Cat Clinic of Louisville- for him to call me to discuss us returning to him for primary care since Monkee's main problem now is anemia and not cancer. I haven't heard from him yet. But his office is only 5 minutes away, so the stress on Monkee is decreased. Plus, he only treats cats and so the stress of the sound of dogs barking is also eliminated for Monkee. Dr. Jones just has a really good bedside manner that I think Monkee and I both really need right now. Dr. Maier suggested that I feed Monkee raw, lean hamburger meat and chicken livers to help his anemia. I was shocked because I am a vegetarian so I NEVER buy meat, much less handle it, but I had to suppress my disgust and do it for Monkee. Our first foray into this realm was traumatic- for me. The chicken livers really freaked me out. When I was cutting them up the first time, my legs got weak and my knees felt like they might buckle, but Monkee was sitting on the floor looking up at me licking his chops, so I had to pull through, so as not to faint and fall on top of him Needless to say, he LOVES it! I think I gave him too much last night- probably because I was losing my mind while cutting everything up- and I was worried that I overdid it and he couldn't eat it all, but he cleared his plate! The same this morning. It's hilarious to watch him eat the livers because, even though I have been coating the place with paper towels, he will pick up a piece and shake his head around to help break it up (like a dog) and he so he gets blood and liver juice (yuck) everywhere! I swear he's doing it just to freak me out! But he is so happy getting raw food, I think that, in and of itself, is going to increase his life force ten-fold! - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Hi Belinda, In response to your post below, I felt the need to clarify for Caroline's sake. Bailey's situation should be considered a miracle in my book. As we have seen too many times here, most cats do not respond as Bailey did with that type of anemia; it claims the lives of many. While I do not wish to play a part in taking away Caroline's hope, I also want to be completely upfront about non-regenerative anemia. It can be reversed, but not usually. I should have made this statement earlier. So That being said, it may be wise to keep her kitty on Epogen considering Bailey's case, as we never know when a situation might be reversed. Respectfully, Wendy --- Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues
Great idea about the binder! Gina Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monkee's HCT was 13% two weeks ago (when we first went to the Vet because I knew something was wrong). That was on a Tuesday. They gave him .3 of Epogen and sent me home with a tiny bottle to give him sub-cu injections of Epogen that Thurs, and Sat. They increased his predisone (which was 5 mg- I think? the little, small pills), every other day, to one every day; his Vet also added the appetite stimulant, 1/2 a pill twice a day. We did the week of Epogen, went back this Tues. and that is when his HCT count was 10% and his Vet told us the options (marrow biopsy, transfusion, etc). We did the blood transfusion on Wed. and they said after it, his count was up to 15%. The instructions were to just continue the pred and the appetite stim. Nothing was said about the Interferon or Epogen and I was too out of it to ask because I was so shocked by the bill from the transfusion (and all I could think was that we can't afford another one). He was, what I call Super Monkee (it speaks for itself) on Wed., after the transfusion. But since then, he's gone down a little bit (not with eating though); but he's defintely less Super Monkee, and he's less bright-eyed. But he is still sleeping better- actual sound sleeping, as opposed to the just laying there and staring into space sleeping. I have printed your emails and I filed them in Monkee's Care Binder- that I have organized with ALL his information and it has dividers and everything. I am going to ask questions from the emails when a Vet ever calls me back! But I decided I need to bring some MAJOR organization to caring for Monkee if I want to do this right, hence the binder! I highly suggest this to anyone who isn't already doing something similar. I take The Monkee Binder with me everywhere. -Caroline - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:22:31 -0700 PS. If it were me I would either find a vet who knows how to work with epogen or ask your vet to research it, or take research you've done to him and ask him to work with you. Along with the epogen a cat should be getting blood builders, nutrived is a good source for this. It has the iron, vitamin b needed to build blood. Fred's HCT got as low as 24% and the nutrived got him back up to 30%. Nutrived wouldn't be enough for a cat with an HCT of 18% or less. I can't remember what is Monkee's HCT? PS. Bailey had the bone marrow aspirate and that is why we very strongly suspected cancer somewhere. He had Myloid Dysplastic (basically there were pre-cancerous cells there). We did every test we could think of and couldn't find the cancer, even after we got his HCT to normal, he had no energy and wouldn't eat. He succumbed to pancreatic cancer which we found after he passed with a necropsy. I suspected his pancreas was involved because he always was uncomfortable when I fed him through his feeding tube. He was on high doses of prednisolone and was getting doxy just incase his hemobartonella test was a false negative. The pred and the epo are what got his HCT back to normal and stopped the bone marrow surpression by the virus. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com - Picture this share your photos and you could win big! Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.
Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp
I also treat with Advantage only when needed. When I brought my new kitten into my home last year she had fleas. I started my adult cats on Advantage, and after she was old enough, I treated everyone with Advantage for two months. This took care of the fleas. My cats are 100% indoors though. Laurie, I wish you the best with your furbaby. I hope her fever comes under control. Gina Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Laurie, First, thanks for taking in an older cat that needed you, I wish there were more folks that did.. Fever of unknown origin is a tough one, but I do agree w/ the other post about Revolution. It's not really very good for fleas, and I have seen lots of negative medical reactions to it. Skin issues (huge sores developing on contact area, especially white cats or Siamese flamepoints) and neurological problems due the ivermectin in it. For some reason, many vets recommend it due to the fact that it prevents heartworms, but heartworms in cats is not very common. It can happen, but it's not very common. And if kitty is kept inside, chances of her getting bitten by a mosquito is even less. I would use Advantage for fleas, but for my personal cats I only treat them every year or so, for 2 months straight, then no treatment for quite awhile since they are 100% inside. make sense? Good luck, please keep us posted on her progress. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From:laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:24PM Subject: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with hightemp Hi. We rescued a one to two year old cat about 5weeks ago. She has had a temp anywhere from normal (June 19) to 107 (June26). Her blood work this week indicates she has a low white blood count and isalso anemic. She has no other symptoms (other than recent lethargy) and isstill interested in food. We started interferon 7 days on/ 7 days off2 1/2 weeks ago. Isabella's temp was normal after the 7 days on and 107 after7 days off. The interferon was started again 3 nights ago and today's temp was104.2. She has weighed 8.5, 8.4, 8.9 (10 days ago ~ this was also the day hertemp was normal). Tuesday, June 26, she weighed 8.8 and today 8.7. Shegot fluids Tuesday and today (Thursday). We are also giving her feline transfer factor.She was on Clavamox for about a week and then switched to Zeniquin( for about16 days now) when her temp was 105.5. Discontinued Zeniquin today and startedan anti-inflammatory (metacam, I believe) that she will take for 3 days. She is a wonderful companion. Easy to care for.Impeccable manners. Talks and purrs and plays when she feels good. If anyonehas suggestions about why the temp and what to do about the temp, WBC and RBC,we would be grateful. Thanks! ps we applied Revolution May 23 and June 23. Shereacted with fur on end June 23. Laurie Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
RE: Now i've got something of a dilemma
Hi Cassandra, I am not trying to pressure you to keep the babies. I understand the grief you are feeling over your other furbabies, as well as the practical aspects of taking them in. But...how old are the babies? Perhaps mama kitty would not abandon them while in your care. But if she did, perhaps there is a way you can bottle feed them. When we took in our two kittens (almost 15 years ago) they were seven days old. I seem to recall them eating every two hours, then it tapered off each week until they were fully weaned at eight weeks of age. At about the three week mark, on advice from the vet, we slowly began to add a bit of wet kitten food to their formula in a bowl which they began to learn to lap up. (Plus they still got the bottle.) My memory is a little fuzzy after 14+ years. lol But, at some point they started eating from a bowl and were no longer interested in the bottle. I think at about eight weeks. Anyhow, we got help from my sister who lived next door. Is there someone who can help you feed the babies while you are at work? By the way, our bottle babies are still with us. Tigger and Taylor will be 15 years old October 1st. :) Gina Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cassandra -- This is a toughie, obviously, and I have no practical advice to give, never having had young kittens. But if you can make this work it sounds like a chance for you and your husband (who sounds like a total keeper, BTW!!) to continue the good work you started with your angel kitties. These new ones wouldn't be *replacing* the three you lost, BTW, don't think of it that way. Entertain the possibility that Tomi, Kisa and Koda have something to do with finding these new babies to save. This must be so frustrating -- time isn't on your side here, you obviously can't wait till the kits' feeding schedule is less intense, or they could come to harm, but at the same time, sometimes mom cats do extreme things when they think they and their kits are in harm's way, which she might if they're captured. Is there anyone who could come in for a while and feed the kittens during the day until their feeding schedules are less intense? Or is there maybe a foster person who would give you liberal visitation rights until the kittens are older. It also seems to me that the momcat might be more tameable if the kits weren't an issue, so again, bad timing. Is there a way you could trap them and watch carefully for a while to see what her instincts seem to be when confined? Maybe if she/they were confined outside, rather than go right from barn to house, it would be less of a shock? (I'm just throwing this stuff out as it occurs to me, sorry! Hope some of it is relevant!) Diane R. - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C J Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Now i've got something of a dilemma What worries me, is this mom is used to farm life, and for starters, may not even want to live with us. If she abandons her babies by being moved here (I would lock her in a room with them, but she still could abandon them), I don't know that I am able to feed the babies, both my husband and I work mon-fri, 8 hours a day. We live 20-25 min drive away from work outside of the city. It is possible to come home at lunch time, but that gives us only 10-15 mins to feed the babies. How often do babies need to eat? Isn't it every couple of hours? And how long do they need to eat that frequently. I could probably take a few days off work to look after them, but do they need to eat that frequently for a whole 4 weeks? I really know nothing about looking after baby kittens. I just don't want to do more harm than good here. Cassandra This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
RE: Now i've got something of a dilemma
Cassandra, I didn't see your other email saying you had decided not to take them in (before I emailed the one below.) I understand your feelings and there will be those who need you out there when you are ready. Take your time. Take care, Gina Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Cassandra, I am not trying to pressure you to keep the babies. I understand the grief you are feeling over your other furbabies, as well as the practical aspects of taking them in. But...how old are the babies? Perhaps mama kitty would not abandon them while in your care. But if she did, perhaps there is a way you can bottle feed them. When we took in our two kittens (almost 15 years ago) they were seven days old. I seem to recall them eating every two hours, then it tapered off each week until they were fully weaned at eight weeks of age. At about the three week mark, on advice from the vet, we slowly began to add a bit of wet kitten food to their formula in a bowl which they began to learn to lap up. (Plus they still got the bottle.) My memory is a little fuzzy after 14+ years. lol But, at some point they started eating from a bowl and were no longer interested in the bottle. I think at about eight weeks. Anyhow, we got help from my sister who lived next door. Is there someone who can help you feed the babies while you are at work? By the way, our bottle babies are still with us. Tigger and Taylor will be 15 years old October 1st. :) Gina Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cassandra -- This is a toughie, obviously, and I have no practical advice to give, never having had young kittens. But if you can make this work it sounds like a chance for you and your husband (who sounds like a total keeper, BTW!!) to continue the good work you started with your angel kitties. These new ones wouldn't be *replacing* the three you lost, BTW, don't think of it that way. Entertain the possibility that Tomi, Kisa and Koda have something to do with finding these new babies to save. This must be so frustrating -- time isn't on your side here, you obviously can't wait till the kits' feeding schedule is less intense, or they could come to harm, but at the same time, sometimes mom cats do extreme things when they think they and their kits are in harm's way, which she might if they're captured. Is there anyone who could come in for a while and feed the kittens during the day until their feeding schedules are less intense? Or is there maybe a foster person who would give you liberal visitation rights until the kittens are older. It also seems to me that the momcat might be more tameable if the kits weren't an issue, so again, bad timing. Is there a way you could trap them and watch carefully for a while to see what her instincts seem to be when confined? Maybe if she/they were confined outside, rather than go right from barn to house, it would be less of a shock? (I'm just throwing this stuff out as it occurs to me, sorry! Hope some of it is relevant!) Diane R. - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C J Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Now i've got something of a dilemma What worries me, is this mom is used to farm life, and for starters, may not even want to live with us. If she abandons her babies by being moved here (I would lock her in a room with them, but she still could abandon them), I don't know that I am able to feed the babies, both my husband and I work mon-fri, 8 hours a day. We live 20-25 min drive away from work outside of the city. It is possible to come home at lunch time, but that gives us only 10-15 mins to feed the babies. How often do babies need to eat? Isn't it every couple of hours? And how long do they need to eat that frequently. I could probably take a few days off work to look after them, but do they need to eat that frequently for a whole 4 weeks? I really know nothing about looking after baby kittens. I just don't want to do more harm than good here. Cassandra This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks
Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda
Cassandra, I'm just now reading all the email from the list. I got a bit behind. I didn't realize that you had just lost Tomi. I am so sorry! :( Following on the loss of Kisa and Koda must be devistating. Losing your best friend in Tomi is so heartbreaking. You saved him from a life on the streets if he even made it that far. With you, he experienced great love and care. I'll be thinking about you and sending healing vibes. Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cassandra I am so sorry you lost your sweet Tomi.You were a great Mama to him.Hugs to you, Sherry C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband. Tomi and I have had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home. My husband was out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day. There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't just leave him there. I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly won me over. I've had a very close bond with him ever since. He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him home. His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked like a question mark when it was straight up. Tomi quickly came around though and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house. Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence when you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes. He never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses, and never got angry. 3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was devastated. I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed and I was sure he would die. Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another good 8 weeks with him. Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time with my Tomi as I would have liked. Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed again with the anemia. He was having a hard time breathing, and again he bounced back. Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave him, and drank lots of water. Yesterday, he started to crash again. Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking, but his breathing was becoming more labored. Then around noon, he began panting, and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever. He was so scared and crying because he couldn't catch his breath. This is absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced. A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone. I guess i'll just wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn to numbness. Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this. It looks like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over. Cassandra - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Visit my Tigger Tales site! - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda
Your pictures are so beautiful. They made me cry. I feel about my Tigger the way you feel about Tomi. I've had him for 14+ years and it's still not enough. You only had your Tomi for a short time and it is natural to want more time. We are here for you whenever you need us. Peace, Gina C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you all so much for your thoughts and prayers. Knowing there are people out there who truly understand and care without having ever met myself or my babies means so much to me. This is a link to a picture I made the first time Tomi was sick, and have since had printed and framed (Tomi is on the left, Kisa on the right): http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg . Now that they are both gone, I guess it is even more fitting. Here is another pic that I like of them: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/Kissing.jpg Today is still pretty tough for me. I still can hear Tomi's cries at the end, and it is breaking my heart. Everytime I think of it, I just feel like punching something. I felt so useless and terrified for him. I realize I lost my best friend after my husband yesterday. Even if we were to get another kitten or two one day, I don't think i'll ever have as close a bond again as I did with Tomi. I just wish he could have stayed for longer than the 2.5 years I had with him. My house feels so empty now. I can no longer give my little boy a good long hug when I feel upset. Cassandra - Original Message - From:C J To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa andKoda I've just lost my closest friend other than myhusband. Tomi and I have had a special bond ever since my husbandbrought him home. My husband was out walking the dog by the river inOctober of 2004, on a cold and rainy day. There was a kitten crying inthe trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't just leave him there. Iwasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly wonme over. I've had a very close bond with him ever since. He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was astrange noise or person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catchhim to bring him home. His tail had been broken at the end at one timetoo, it sort of looked like a question mark when it was straight up. Tomi quickly came around though and trusted us, though he still always hidwhen any strangers came to the house. Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledgedyour presence when you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at himsometimes. He never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him toomany hugs/kisses, and never got angry. 3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV,I was devastated. I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months untilhe crashed and I was sure he would die. Amazingly he bounced back andgave me another good 8 weeks with him. Except during this time I had towatch Koda and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get tospend as much time with my Tomi as I would have liked. Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi gotsick and crashed again with the anemia. He was having a hard timebreathing, and again he bounced back. Last week he had a huge appetite,eating everything I gave him, and drank lots of water. Yesterday, hestarted to crash again. Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him andstill drinking, but his breathing was becoming more labored. Then aroundnoon, he began panting, and I watched him die in a way that will haunt meforever. He was so scared and crying because he couldn't catch hisbreath. This is absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced. A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone. Iguess i'll just wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the painwill eventually turn to numbness. Thank you all for the support you've given me through all ofthis. It looks like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop sinceMarch 9 is now over. Cassandra - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG FreeEdition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/863 - Release Date:6/23/2007 11:08 AM Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: need advice quick
I'm keeping you both in my prayers. Gina dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, Wendy. His fever keeps going up and down, but not down enough. The IR should be here tomorrow, and so should the blood test results. He is still not eating, but I am feeding him the liver shake. Between that, and the fluids he is nicely hydrated. She also put him on linotinic. I am trying to keep him cool, by sponging, and a fan. Wish I had a cooling blanket. He doesn't seem any worse, infact, he is moving around more. --- wendy wrote: IR dosage for 8 lb. cat is .25 to .5 mL. The generic for IR that Revival Animal has is EqStim, I believe. I think you have to get Epogen through your vet, but not sure on that. It goes under several names (Procrit, etc.) :) Wendy --- dede hicken wrote: Just got back from the vet. She put him on Delta Albaplex. It has several antibiotics and prednisolone. We are to use it for 5 days. Took blood. She said it looked thin. His gums are OK, but it looks like he is amemic. I called Revival. The IR is only 5ml. How much do you use at a time? Where do you get epogen and how much is it? Vet didn't know about it. She is not optimistic, of course, but is doing her best, I believe. Say a prayer for mylittle guy. Dede and Ki When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 Visit my Tigger Tales site! - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
Re: Victor Please add to the CLS :(
Rest well sweet Victor. I am so sorry Kelley. Peace, Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sweet Victor a cat with the most beautiful green eyes lost his battle to felv today.He was living with Camden,the same guy that recently lost Laurel.THis is his 3rd one he lost to this aweful disease.He has such a big heart for adopting the feleuks.I really though Victor was going to make it much longer.Thank you all for your support. Sherry and her 5 beautiful fur kids - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.
Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge
Thank you for the information Belinda. I am going to read all of it. Gina MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the most important info, i believe, in the last few years, is the research showing a genetic predisposition for the mutation from the usually benign corona virus to the horrible FIP. when i was still involved with VIN (the parent of www.veterinarypartner.com that belinda references), this relationship was just starting to come out, through the Feline Genome Project results from UC Davis and other participants. the winn feline foundation (whose link i don't happen to have right at hand but a search will pull it up, has current position papers on FIV, FeLV and FIP. personally, i disagree with their overly pessimistic stats on both FIV and FeLV, but that's me.) as belinda says, the information is out there and we have a responsibility to make sure that what we don't add to the confusion by repeating stuff that is NOT accurate. (and yes, i STILL haven't found where, exactly, the oft-quoted figure that 70% of healthy adult cats can throw off the FeLV virus. but i'm still looking.) On 6/28/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are some sites with info about FIP. Just because the same misinformation keeps getting repeated isn't going to make it true. To many cats pay with their lives when incorrect information is tossed about. To say a cat is suspected to have FIP is one thing, to say is is confirmed without the proper verification procedures being followed is in my opinion criminal. -- This is from the VeterinaryPartner.com website written and maintained by vets, it is from 2002 so even this is probably no the most accurate info: http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=AA=232 FIP effusion fluid is thick, tenacious, straw-colored to deep golden, and clear to slightly cloudy. From another Vet Website, again written in 2002: http://www.vetinfo.com/cencyclopedia/cefip.html When cats have the effusive form of FIP in which abdominal fluid accumulation occurs, the thick, straw colored fluid has characteristics that strongly suggest FIP. It is possible to run a more specialized lab test, a polymerase chain reaction test for FIP, on this fluid. This type of testing is more accurate than FIP antibody testing but still is not definitive. Blood tests to compare the various protein levels in the blood can be very suggestive of FIP infection, as well. High immunglobulin levels are very suggestive of FIP in the presence of clinical signs. Despite all of this, there is no clear-cut way to make a sure diagnosis of FIP prior to death. This person does Dr Addie's website and probably has some of the most current and factual info on FIP: http://www.orionfoundation.com/Information.htm 3) Verify FIP through histopathology. Simply necropsy is not enough. Microscopic evaluation of tissue from biopsy or necropsy by a trained pathologist is considered the only diagnostic proof of FIP. Where available request immunoperoxidase examination of tissue to verify presence of Corona virus in suspect tissue. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: Victor Please add to the CLS :(
Sorry, I meant Sherry! I think I read too many emails in a row. Love and peace to you Sherry, Gina Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rest well sweet Victor. I am so sorry Kelley. Peace, Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sweet Victor a cat with the most beautiful green eyes lost his battle to felv today.He was living with Camden,the same guy that recently lost Laurel.THis is his 3rd one he lost to this aweful disease.He has such a big heart for adopting the feleuks.I really though Victor was going to make it much longer.Thank you all for your support. Sherry and her 5 beautiful fur kids - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing.
Re: Ambrose Please add to the CLS :(
Awww he sounds like he was a sweetie Sherry. Gentle Bridge vibes to him. Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well we lost yet another precious handsome guy.Ambrose went through so much in his life,he was a hurricane Katrina cat,and was with us since just after I started volunteering back in November 2005.He was 10 years old when he first came to us.He loved his Temptation treats and as soon as he would see me with them that handsome gentle guy would meow at me with the softest meow.I will miss Ambrose. :( Thanks for your support, Sherry - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: Something is killing my cats, please help me
Kelley, I am so sorry this is happening. My heart goes out to you. I don't have any suggestions, but I will pray that you can figure out why this is happening. Gina Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hideyo, They eat Diamond Naturals Indoor Cat, which is not the best, but contains no wheat gluten. It isn't the worst either. They also eat Evo canned when I can afford it, which isn't always. I don't think it is the food, or anything like that..it is only affecting cats 5-12 yo. The kittens are ok. On 6/27/07, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about the food? What do the eat? Was any of their food related to recall food? - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: Re: Something is killing my cats, please help me I use bleach. I have to to kill the virus such as URI that comes from the sheltr. I use bleach in the litterboxes to kill the giardia, coccidia. I use bleach in my sheets so i don't hav eto sleep on peed on sheets. I try to use simple green when I think it will work. The thing that mystifies me is that it is affecting a 10,12, and 2 5 year old cats...yet the 3 weeks olds are just fine *knock wood*. 3 of them were owner surrenders and one was obviously an owned cat -spayed and very friendly. A great staff favaprote at T:AC I thik they are distessed and it is destroyuing their immune system. On 6/27/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No decks or fences? Here they tried to use treated wood (the new version) in the walls where it touched the concrete. Any insecticides? Termite/roach/ants stuff? Any cleaning solutions? Bleaches? I'm not picking at you. Please don't think that. I know of other cases where things we think nothing of cause problems for our friends and many times we never find out what. Consider that there appears to be an increase in cancers among people that some are blaming on the numerous chemicals now in our food, water, homes. If you have a good alternative vet in your area, try him/her. The ones I know can sense the problems when regular vets, who are really attuned to science and the scientific method, just can't. Mine have convinced me that even the little blue crystals in some litter is not good for cats. They have the ability to see as a cat. It is much like baby-proofing a house. You get 6 inches from everything with your nose, eyes, mouth etc. You mentioned carpet. Consider what you use to clean it and whether it is outgassing. I don't have any here but picked up a piece to make Dixie a scratching post (very good carpet remnant). It has been on the porch rail for 3 months outgassing. Dixie won't have anything to do with it and it will never make it into the house again. I am just trying to see how long it takes the odor to go away. Again, I am not picking at you. This awful set of events may be something entirely within the cars. I had 2 unrelated female cats several months apart die. I trapped them and had them spayed at different local vets. One had every test done before she was spayed. The other had just the basics done. Both appeared extremely healthy. Both were fine the night before they died but both died the third day. I was so totally broken up that I asked my personal vet (120 miles away) what was going on. Without an autopsy (animal version) no one could be sure but he couldn't come up with anything. One could easily have had undetected heart problems but both of them??? All of this is to say that sometimes things just happen no matter how careful we are and, again, please don't think I am picking at youjust throwing out ideas/feelings in the hope that something might ring true with you. You have been thru so much. Maybe an angel will sit on your shoulder and whisper an answer. That is my prayer for you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: Re: Something is killing my cats, please help me I don't have any wood. I have concrete subfloor, carpet over some of it, vinyl tile over other parts of it, it is all by itself in som eplaces. Where the ac flooded and we had to rip up the tile...but that was 3 years ago... On 6/27/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They did until a couple of years ago
Re: Suzie crossed the bridge
Kelley, Gentle Bridge vibes to Suzie. I am sorry she didn't come out of her coma. Please try not to blame yourself. The fact that these kitties come to you already compromised, might be the problem, rather than anything you are doing. Take care, Gina Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Kelley, I am so sorry for your loss, I just finished responding to your other email and then saw this one. Please don't put the blame on yourself for trying to rescue too many. Look instead at how many lives you have saved. Add them up. Our local Humane Society euthanized almost 28,000 animals in 2002. We are all getting the emails showing whole families of cats about to go to the gas chamber. You are doing good in the face of a horribly frustrating problem of overpopulation. If some of yours are succumbing to stress, it is the owners who surrendered that are responsible for causing the stress, not you! Beth On 6/28/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She was a sweet girl who liked to sit in laps, but didn't like other cats much. She was positive for FIP. Dr Samon euthanized her this morning. I wish I had been there, but they said she was comatose.. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.
RE: Please add Nookie to CLS
I am sorry about Nookie. She obviously grew to trust and love you. I am glad she had the time with you that she did. Gina Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeni -- I'm sorry that Nookie had to leave you just as she was starting to become a real part of your household. Gentle Bridge vibes to her. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JENI RECA Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Please add Nookie to CLS Nookie passed on saturday night. She was a feral we took in a year ago, and though she hide quite a bit she was finally coming out and hanging out near us. She curled up into the little hiding place we made for her under the stairs and passed away peacefully. Thank you for all the support Jeni Meer and Cree _ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: Charity (Crossed The Bridge)- Heartfelt Thanks Update
I am so sorry that Charity crossed the Bridge. She will be in your heart and
soul forever. One day you will be with each other again, as well as with Bart
and the others who have crossed.
Gina
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/11/07 4:02:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL
PROTECTED] writes:
Take
care of yourself and treat yourself to that slice of
cheesecake or a hot bath or whatever brings a smile to
your face. Charity would like that.
Dear Wendy ALL the wonderful, compassionate, supportive, et al list members,
It's Tuesday now and I have not been online [too much other stuff-
devastated mainly]
Just wanted to let you all know [again], this group is so, so wonderful..
I know I'll never leave...
I want to give thanks for all the suggestions on what to do w/ Charity's
remains When all of a sudden you're faced w/ such a tragedy, your mind goes
blank.. And, since MVA my mind doesn't function
My room mate was absolutely a god-send And, he didn't even like my
girl, thought I was crazy for taking her in...(Poor girl only liked me, she was
nasty w/ everyone else.) Can't blame her though, not one bit. (Being taped
in a cardboard box w/ her babies ) After that, was it any wonder she
despised humans??? I know, with all I've seen, I definitely prefer critters
over humans.
I couldn't get a cooler, but thank heavens we live in a real old home.My
room mate wrapped her {gently] very well and he put her remains down in the
basement..And, being such an old house, the basement has stone walls, also,
a crawlspace - which is where he placed her. And, it was HOT, but the basement
[always] remains cool
So, yesterday, Monday, I [we] took her to vet for cremation. And, when I get
her remains back, she will be [back] w/ her [our] Bart again.
She was such a loving girl - when I earned her trust when she came to me to
help Bart When she realized I DID help her [our] Bart, the change in her
behavior was unbelievable And, gaining trust is so wonderful I
can't even express just how I felt (Bart Charity both put their trust in
me And, that meant more than I can ever express).
I absolutely loved my Charity, and knowing that she loved me is..
WONDERFUL!!! AMAZING
I'm just so heartbroken she passed at such a young age. But, I can take
comfort knowing at the end, she finally knew she was much loved
I really believe it was FIP. Being together w/ Bart, well.
And, I have the comfort remembering cuddling her holding her right before
she passed I'll NEVER forget that!
And Wendy, as far as taking care of myself, well, being a vegan, cheesecake
is out. {I DO make tofu cheesecake, but I'm just not into baking, or any
cooking right now]. And yes, I did take a bath... but you know what I did,
that seemed to get almost all my feelings out Washed ALL my windows,
curtains, put diff. curtains up in all my windows But, you know what???
It really, really helped me deal
Go ahead, call me crazy.
Much love thanks to EVERYONE
Hugs,
Patti her gang
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Re: CLS for Jet
I am sorry Tad. I'm glad Jet was with you in her last moments on earth. Gina Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sweet black cat Jet just passed away just a few minutes ago June 12, 2007 She is the 5th of the 6 FeLV+ cats from Angel Wings... She has been here with me for 2 years.. She is probably about 5 years old... She has been healthy all the time she was here and enjoyed her life here with Marie and myself and all the other cats... She has been especially close to my feral cat who was just starting to tame when jet came here... Jet most often slept curled up next to me and that's where she was tonight when I felt those now all to familiar little muscle contractions that signals when life has left the body on this earth... I knew her time was coming about a month ago when she started acting like an older cat and slowed down sum but even tonight she was eating but she had been acting quite weak today and only an hour before she passed was the 1st time that she wasn't able to stand up and walk... I pulled her up close to me and she felt comfortable... We all will miss our Jet Cat... Tad and Marie. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Kisa is gone :(
Cassandra, I know your heart is breaking and I am so sorry for your loss of Kisa. We all were hoping she would rally as well. Take care of yourself. Godspeed Kisa. Gina C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kisa passed away this morning while I was at work, exactly one month after Koda. My heart is broken, especially since I wasn't there with her at the end. I had prayed and hoped so much that she would continue to improve after she started eating again a week and a half ago. I suppose it was just too much for her to overcome. The anemia never really did improve much. Though her breathing was better, her skin was so pale. The last few days, her appetite faltered again, and she was getting weaker. I didn't think today would be the day she died, though i'm relieved she didn't have to go on suffering much longer. I don't think she was in pain, and I sincerely hope she wasn't in pain at the end. It was just so hard to see her so weak when she was as active and happy as a kitten 3 weeks ago. Kisa is going to be missed more than words can say. She never quite saw her 3rd birthday, but the time she spent with us will never be forgotten. She was special in so many ways, I wouldn't even know where to start to list them all. Fearless, loving, gentle, playful, curious, and sweet are just a few of the words that describe her. She's been sleeping on my pillow the last few nights, and i'm going to miss her warmth so much. If it ever stops raining, she will be buried next to Koda tonight. I made a rock garden full of flowers on top of Koda's grave. Now Kisa will join her there. Cassandra Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.
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I was crying so hard at the end of the video, my husband asked me what was wrong! What a wonderful dog and story. Gina Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a video that had me in happy tears, something I know we could all use: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334pr=goog-sl Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
Re: Hideyo got her missing cat Maddie!
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Re: Horus Please Add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry Sherry :( Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Horus I only got to know through e-mails and pic from Dr. Jen.He had to have one of his eyes removed and was blind in the other.He suffered severe head trauma and lived at Jens house.He slept next to her every night and purred his little heart out to her.(I am crying now as I write this) Dr. Jen became very attached to this beautiful black boy.He lost control of his tongue and was not able to eat properly.She really HATED to admit defeat but had to let him go on the 27th.He was also felv+. I admire ALL that she does for these wonderful babies!! Thank you all for being here for me. Sherry - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing.
Re: l-lysine - ADVISE
When Pippin tested FeLV positive at six weeks of age, I started giving her 500 mg of Lysine a day. This was based upon information from this group. My vet did not think it would hurt but she didn't think it would necessarily help. At any rate, Pippin has been FeLV negative as of six months of age (she's one year old now.) I don't know if the Lysine helped her throw the virus, or she had a false positive test, but it didn't hurt her any. Gina Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use the l-lysine from a health food store, the powder inside a capsule, 250-500 mg once a day. It's an amino acid and is water soluble so any excess is excreted in the urine. Hard to OD on l-lysine. Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I have is Vet Viralys which I got from my vet. It says use 1/2 scoop (one scoop = 250 mg of l-lysine) twice a day for kittens under 6 months and 1 scoop for cats over six months but that the dosage can be adjusted. My vet didn't think oding would cause a problem. I don't know if this will help or not. Frankly, I would call my vet and ask. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: wendy To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:30 PM Subject: Re: l-lysine - ADVISE Rett, I cannot answer your question completely, but in case you don't get anymore replies, I used to give Smookie, my new kitten last year who had a corneal ulcer, 500 mg 2x per day. Some will probaby say that's a lot, but it worked wonders. Smookie was probably at least six months old at that point and at least 5 lbs. I would not give that much to one as small as you have. Hopefully, you'll get more info. on this. Also, make sure that the lysine does not have the additive propynol glycol. It causes blood issues in cats. :) Wendy --- Rett Lacy wrote: Hello, How much do you give a kitten before their next retest ( first one, weak positive). Mg?? xday?? etc. Weight 2.5 - 3.0. Thanks to all.. Rett Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.
Re: OT: Neighbor threatens ferals
What a jerk! A little poop never hurt, and besides, who knows if it's the cats or not? I would definitely keep an eye out on this guy and I would report his threat to the ASPCA in case anything happens to the kitties. I'll be praying for them. Gina wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anita, I'm so sorry. That stinks that your new neighbor is being a jerk. Saying you're going to kill an animal is very serious and cruel. Is it an option for you to speak with the wife when he is not home? Maybe she doesn't know that he did this. Also, could you talk to the ferals the next time you feed them and explain the situation and tell them that this guys is dangerous. Maybe that would help. If this situation gets more serious, there are options, like calling a shelter to have the ferals trapped and moved to someplace safe, or calling the aspca on this guy. Prayers going out that his heart would soften and that the kitties stay out of his path. :) Wendy --- Stray Cat Alliance wrote: Do you believe this storyevery day, I feed my front yard and back yard cats (I love in a townhome attached on both sides)..and have done so since we moved into the City in 1998. Last May my elderly neighbor moved out (she was pet friendly and had volunteered at the Humane Society) and new neighbors moved in (no pets). Over the weekend, I was cleaning out my backyard house of straw from winter and the husband neighbor came over and said a cat was pooping in the landing of his basement steps. I said I feed only stray cats and you can't control where they go as you can't control the birds pooping where they want. He said you don't walk in bird poop. But in any case, I said to let me think about the situation as it never happened before. So I went in and got a plastic bag and cleaned up the poop as I didn't want any problems. Funny that noone ever pooped in our landing but ours smells a lot better - not that musty yuck smell. Then that night, in the middle of the night, I realized the one thing that changed was my husband put stone along the only grassy section in the backyard. In the morning, I asked my husband to move the stones as I figured that would probably make it stop if it was indeed a cat/s. Then, the door bell rings and my neighbor wants to speak to my husband. Of course, it was about the cats. My husband said it might not be a cat/s, there are skunks and possums. And just to put some wood out to block the cat/s or animal/s from going down the steps to the landing. Then the neighbor says if it doesn't stop he's going to kill them! Then my husband said he couldn't do that or he'd go to jail -- and my husband said then he didn't have time to argue about it and came in. Now, I am worried about the kitties! I would love to take still somewhat feral Mom cat (tho she lets me pet her) from the front inside but I have way too many cats and doubt she'd appreciate it. If we ever move, she is definitely coming. I am crossing my fingers and hoping this blows over. Thanks for listening, I know I am rather long winded! Anita Every year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! _ Download Messenger. Start an im conversation. Support a cause. Join now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGWL_MAY07 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.
Re: Please add Scamper to the CLS list
Scamper sounds like a wonderful kitty. I am so sorry he crossed the Bridge. Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please add our cat Scamper of 18 years to the CLS list. He lost his fight with cancer and CRF, he died in my arms. He will go to the rainbow bridge to reunite with his sibling Eli who passed last year of complications form FIV. His memory will be kept alive, so in part he will be be still alive. He will be cremated, and then when my wife passes his ashes will join hers. He was the kitten that did not stay down stairs in the box we made for him. He jumped/climbed up the stairs to our bedroom, jump/climbed up the comforter on our water bed to sleep with us. Whitey Elric Bone, Regis, Luceria, Geo, Saiko, Stumpy, Marely, Eli, Cuddles, Butch, Romeo, Dartanion, Satan, Ni**er, Sasquash, Little Tux, Big Tux, and the too many others, help him at that place of rest, help him to enjoy being healthy and young again. Sam and Marcia Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.
Re: questions
Jane, I felt the same feelings you are feeling when I got the positive result on my Pippin when she was six weeks old. I would look at her sweet face and think, how much time do I have with her? I felt it every day of the five months I waited for her second test result. Even though she tested negative the second time around, I still have a sense of fear that it is in hiding in her bone marrow, or somehow she had a false negative on the IFA. I think the fearful and sad feelings are normal. One thing I know is, we don't know how much time we have, any of us. I think it's particularly hard to deal with a possible time table like with FeLV or any other disease. But in a way, it reminds us to cherish every moment, because we don't know how long we have. There are more wise and experienced people on this list who will speak to this though. Prayers going up for you and MeMe. Gina Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cassandra you and Kisa are in my thoughts and prayers. Does the anxiety and sadness ever go away? I feel as though I am still in shock with the diagnosis. I feel I am back to the place I was when my 19 year old (NoNo) was failing and I would wake up every few hours to make sure she was ok. The feelings of impending loss and sadness became like a low grade fever for many months. When it became clear that she was in pain and had to cross, I was prepared and relieved to be free of the fear and anxiety and sadness that became a part of the end of her long and happy life and our infinite bond. When I brought this kitten (MeMe) home, I was exhilarated by her sweetness and smitten by the antics of a young cat. It had been a long time since someone had propelled themselves across the room from a counter top to the back of my neck. She sleeps between us in the same spot that NoNo had for 19 years. The Feline Leukemia diagnosis has brought back the sadness and bittersweet feelings of loss and mortality and connectedness. While I am committed to doing whatever I can to give her the best care and support available, will I ever be able to hold her and kiss her without a surge of sadness and regret and longing? Does the shock of this disease ever move to a place of acceptance and appreciation for the present time and moment. I realize that what I am asking has to do with my own consciousness and ability to live in the moment with gratitude that I selected this dear, sweet being to love and care for. She's sitting on my lap, purring and I am typing. I guess that is an answer. Thanks for listening. Jane Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more.
Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee
ROTF!!! Gina Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From watching crime dramas on tv, I've learned that coffee grounds are used to disguise the scent from drug sniffing dogs. Excuse me while I go throw a pound of coffee in my dryer :-) . Taylor Scobie Humphrey wrote: Something just dawned on me. You know how Nordie's has those little containers of coffee beans to sniff between testing perfumes? I used to manage a coffee store and I always smelled like fresh coffee. People in check-out lines would ask me what the wonderful coffee was in my basket--and there was none! Maybe little sachets of ground coffee in our pockets would work. !? Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 21, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Nina wrote: I wonder if there have been any studies conducted on deterioration effects of the olfactory senses from living with too many cats. My sniffer isn't what it used to be either. Perhaps it's a blessing in disguise, but it does little for our social lives. I've had people in check out lines ask me about my pets. I'll quick sniff at my clothing but so far it's been more the tell tale dog and cat hair and not problem odors. I have little chance of getting away with a spontaneous murder. I carry way too much traceable dna with me wherever I go. N Kelley Saveika wrote: At least you can smell it. I can't smell it anymore:( Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.
RE: OT: on the subject of pee (long) - kitty condo
Are their prices wholesale or retail? Gina Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OMG, how cute is that pink one Diane R. - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: on the subject of pee (long) - kitty condo Hi Pam, Here's the link to the kitty condo I got recently. It was actually $89 bucks plus shipping. I got it from Petedge.com. Phaewryn had posted the site to the ot list and MC commented on the condo, (so I figured it had to be a good one). I'm very pleased with it. It folds for easy storage too. I'm sorry I chickened out and got the black one instead of the pink one :-) . http://www.petedge.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=4851itemType=PRODUCTiMainCat=0iSubCat=0iSubSubCat=0iProductID=4851AS=1 Pam Norman wrote: Nina, where did you get the rollaway kitty condo? Pam This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged.They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: Plastic Bag Kitties
I do the same thing with my Tigger (in paper bags with handles.) He loves to be gently swung back and forth! Gina Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Delightful little kitty you have there! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 21, 2007, at 5:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tigger loves those bags to play in. I can hold one open, and he will walk in and lay down, then I can pick him up in it (like he's a sack of groceries), and swing him around in it (he's laying down in the bag upside down at this point, like a hammock). He chirps and then flips over and digs his claws in and digs out through the bottom of the bag, and out he pops! He loves it, he's a silly boy. Sometimes if I get tired of swinging him and he hasn't decided it's time to get out yet, I hang him on a doorknob by the handles, LOL! Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals! Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
Re: Charlie Brown and little Sister Oscar to CLS
I'm just now getting back to my email as I was on vacation. I am so sorry to hear about Oscar and Charlie. It does sound as though Oscar wanted to be with Charlie; they had a special bond. Gina Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheila, It's so hard to lose any little critter but two at the same time? I think little O wanted to be with Charlie, too. Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 17, 2007, at 8:07 AM, Rosenfeldt, Diane wrote: Sheila, I'm so sorry about your babies. One at a time is too much, two is unthinkable. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to Charlie Brown and Oscar, and hugs to you. Diane R. - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Charlie Brown and little Sister Oscar to CLS Please add Charlie to CLS list he passed Sunday night and today we had to pts his little sister Oscar (she chose that name). She has been small and delicate all her life. She stopped eating Sunday and was in a lot of pain from kidney failure. I think she really wanted to go with Charlie. They were both felv+. Charlie was 15 and Oscar was 12 years old. My heart is breaking, I miss them so much. It seems that in my house they leave in two's. I know they are together and know longer sick so I will try to remember only the good days. Give your babies extra love tonight. Sheila - See what's free at AOL.com. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged.They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
Re: latest on itchmo.com
Me too. This is absolutely horrific! :( Gina MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'd probably laugh if i weren't crying. http://www.itchmo.com/ -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: question on test result
My Pippin was a slight positive on the ELISA at six weeks of age and came up negative on the IFA five months later. The vet thinks it was a false positive. But, it's possible Pippin could have thrown the virus. Gina Debi Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deana, I foster cats and I have had 2 test slightly positive and we always wait (though I guess they could not do that with the momma) a few weeks before we retest. On retested negative and one retested positive. And when they retest positive with the snap test we then always do the test that is sent out of the office. I am glad to hear that you are looking for another vet. Who is she to get mad because you were not having the kittens PTS Debi H. Deana K. Wagoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the next bit of info on my situation - My husband went by the vet office to pay the bill for the service provided on the stray mama that died from the dog inflicted injuries. The vet was not at all happy that we were not bringing the kittens to her to be put to sleep - since she is confident they are all positve and will die. (she has never seen them) The vet now says the first test on the dying mother was slightly postive so she ran it again and it was More positive. Is there such thing as slightly positive or is it just yes or no? I will never know if the mama cat was beyond treatment for sure, but I do know that the test was done about 4 hours after I left her there and no treatment or exam was done before that. The most important item on the list was this test. We are looking for another vet. Deana - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Update on mva kitties - SAMMI IS SAFE!!
Absolutely fantastic news!!! Gina Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so thrilled to report that Sammi is safe, reunited with Geri, Little Guy and her family! Below is an edited version of the report on what happened last night. HURRAY!! Nina OH MY GOSH - we got Sammi tonight! I am sorry if I have a bunch of typos here but I am pretty much operating on being up since 3:00 am last night.Sammi's human parents decided to come out tonight to look for Sammi.Traps had been set this afternoon where it was obviously she had been hiding out. I was going to go back later and set the rest of the traps. I was supposed to meet the fur parents in a parking lot near the site. I pulled in first and was actually on the phone when I looked to my left and saw Sammi! I told them - I have to go now - I see Sammi. I called the parents and said Where are you? They had just turned down the street and flashed their high beams at me. They got out and I told them Sammi had gone up behind the dumpster where she had eaten the food the night before. This was about 7:45 this evening by the way. So they walked over and started calling her. When Sammi heard their voices, she started meowing. This was the first we had heard anything out of Sammi. Within 10 minutes, dad had Sammi in his arms. They had brought a carrier and I set it on the ground with the door open and then backed off so I would not spook Sammi. I thought he had her secure ly scruffed but just as he was about to put her in the carrier, she flipped around and took off again and went into her hiding place. It took another hour and much coaxing and some food in a small plate that they could shake and finally we got her again. This time we put the carrier in my car and he went in my car and we closed the doors until he had her secure. So Sammi is going to spend the night with Geri and Little Guy and tomorrow will be on her way up north with a volunteer to settle in back home. The parents are so grateful for all of the help that everyone has offered. I cannot believe we got all 3 cats back! It is truly amazing! I guess it takes a village to catch a cat! WOW - I am exhausted but still on such a high from getting this cat. THANK YOU,THANK YOU, THANK YOU everyone for support, comments, encouragement - even though you may not have been here on the front lines. We have made a family very happy. I got to meet the baby tonight. He is adorable and doing as well as can be expected. They may not get around to thanking everyone personally but please know that they are extremely grateful for all of the kind words, efforts and they are truly amazed that all of these strangers came out to help them.Good night! Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
Re: My precious bottle baby is gone
I am so sorry Kelley. Bless you for loving these babies. Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Died at the vet today, where I had been taking her to be fed when I was at work. She was 4 oz as of yesterday. She lived 3 weeks and 2 days. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Herbie is gone......
I'm so sorry Herbie is gone. Their loss leaves such a hole in our hearts. Gina Tracy Weese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Herbie was in a lot of distress at home and so I took him to the emergency vet (also the place that just saw him on Friday), even after being stabilized in oxygen, he continue to go down hill. His heart was enlarged and we were very limited in what diagnostics could be done in light of the stress on the heart (couldn't give him fluids) and then his inability to drawn air in..The new X-rays shows spots on the lungs and poss. fluid, the lymph nodes were still very large. So, with a poor prognosis, and the fact that he would not be able to survive surgery or sedation, I decided to let him go. When I went back to see him, I knew immediately it was the right thing to do--he looked awful, even with the oxygen, he was really struggling to breatheHe went as soon as the sedation was given, he was gone before the lethal fluid was even given. I will miss Herbie--he was such a love bug--hence, his name. He liked to lie next to other cats and put his arms around them. Tracy Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon
My thoughts and prayers are with you. Gina C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you all for your kind thoughts and suggestions for Tomi. He had a pretty good day yesterday, he was watching the birds outside the window for awhile and purring as I petted him. He was even interested in eating some food. Today was not such a good day. He seemed ok first thing this morning, but when I gave him a bit of food, he promptly vomited up. He was then a little out of breath from vomiting, and cried a bit because I believe he was scared as he was trying to catch his breath. He also peed himself for the first time ever :( After that, he had no energy to move all day. He basically stayed in my bedroom the whole day, lying under the sink. I gave him some towels to lie on, and he peed again tonight on those, too weak to get up. My vet clinic doesn't do house calls, so if I need to euthanize him, i'll have to call around and see if anyone will do a house call. I don't think he can handle a car ride at all now. Even the thought of putting him to sleep has me in tears every time, but I think he's at the point now that he is getting no pleasure out of life. I think he is waiting to die :( Cassandra - Original Message - From: C J To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through this, and last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day. But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast. Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing fast. I'm still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up the last bit of food I gave him. He never throws up normally. I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to get better. I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I honestly don't know how I could do that to him. To spend the last hours of his life doing to him what he hates the most (car ride and vet visit), seems too hard for me to handle. I don't think i'm strong enough to make that decision. To me it feels like I would be personally ending his life. I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much longer he will last when he is having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated due to anemia. I still can't believe all this has happened. Two months ago I was positive he would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the sun. I would never have dreamed I would lose him after only 2 and a half years. Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to him than ever as I've been trying to nurse him back to health.He's always been so loving and tolerant of my hugs and kisses. Life is going to feel so empty when he is gone. Cassandra - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.0/775 - Release Date: 4/24/2007 5:43 PM Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sherrydj88/my_photos
She's gorgeous! What a pretty torti :) Congratulations mama! Hugs, Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sherrydj88/my_photos - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Please add Simms to the Candlelighting Ceremony on Monday
He is so handsome and looks like a sweet boy. I am so sorry that he crossed the Bridge. :( Gina Annieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simms was 4 years old and feline leukemia positive. I had hopes that he was just a carrier as he did so well for the first three years I had him with me but he became very ill a couple of months ago, with sneezing and lots of congestion. He was very special. Such a big sweet guy. He had this tender, kind of puzzled but curious, look about him and he never fought with anyone. He was very friendly with the other cats, such a sweetheart. This list's dear Tamara found him at a beautiful waterfront park there in Maryland, along with his brother, Tambours. She posted on this very list about his needing a home and that he was feline leukemia positive. I was lucky enough to be chosen by Tamara. As I told her today on the phone, I thanked her for giving him to me because he gave me just pure joy and sunshine every single day. Tamara loved him so much that she drove 18 hours (wasn't it, T?), straight, to deliver him to me in Michigan from Maryland. (She also brought me Sophie that day, to those of you who are familiar with Sophie). He was a pretty peachy shade of color with that lovely target-shaped swirl on his sides and big creamy white feet and some white on his chest and face, too. He had big, tall elegant ears that I loved to stroke when he let me, finally. He was pretty big but when he meowed, it was so soft and high pitched, it was adorable. He didn't meow often as he was very uncomplaining. When Tamara left him with me, she told me I would find that he was a very special cat and she was right, indeed. :-) He must have died overnight, although he still felt a bit warm when I lifted him. I woke up and thought he was not breathing so I let the dogs out and had a better look and yes, my sweet darling boy is gone. His eyes were half open but he did not look scared or in pain. He was stretched out like he was having a good nap and his whiskers were pointing forward. I'm not sure what that meant but I am consoling myself by thinking he did go peacefully and unafraid. I got a package from Tamara yesterday. She had sent two kitty pop-up tents for Simms and the other cats, to cheer Simms up. They are so cool! He was not interested in the tent but he did want to sleep on the crinkly soft pad. I am kind of in shock and grief-torn because I thought he was doing a bit better after seeming like he would die earlier this week. He was diagnosed with either pneumonia or cancer last month and had been on two antibiotics at a time for a while and single antibiotics constantly, along with pain meds towards the end. He wouldn't eat during his last week or so but he would let me force-feed him A/D and chicken baby food along with squirts of water all day long. He was a bit interested in the window and the birdies outside yesterday and he let me stroke his soft head over and over which he never trusted me to do much, previously, so I had thought maybe he was a bit better and would continue to heal. I buried him earlier today with his Christmas stocking and his little mouse and this cute stuffed animal that Tamara sent with him, a purple beanbag bear. It was a beautiful day and that just made it even harder. He was such a dear polite gentle sweet funny gentleman of a cat, a very special, loving boy and I loved him mightily. Here is a link to a few of my favorite photos of him that I uploaded online in case someone would like to see what he looked like: http://tinyurl.com/38skop Well, sorry for this being so long but I know you guys, if anyone, would understand. Anne and angels Simms, Jimi Too Cool and Bugsy along with Sophie and my other living cats and dogs in Michigan Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Camilla Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, My heart goes out to you. Your Camilla sounds very sweet. I hope she had a gentle Bridge crossing. Hugs, Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Through tears once again I write to you.Camilla was a sweet tortie with an awesome personality.She will be missed by many.The lady I volunteer with on Thursdays totally loved her,every time when we were ready to leave for the night she would tell CamillaNow you be here next week ok I hurt for her loss and mine,not to mention Dr. Jens. THank you all for being here for me.Nobody understands more than ALL of you.This has been a horrible month with losing babies. Sherry - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: sigh. don't forget to keep checking for recall news.
My Tigger likes donuts. He gets a small taste every now and again. I was very surprised when he took a bite right out of the mini-donut I had in my hand! Gina Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 3 Orange Boyz will try anything! Muffins are a great favorite and since they are not supposed to like sweet things I assume it's the texture. And doughnut holes! Although, I have to say, I don't think those scientists know everything. Maybe some kitties DO enjoy sweet things! Also, my cat Jack used to gaze at himself in the mirror--it was just so neat! And one evening I was snacking on prunes and that's when I discovered that Billi Bi my tuxedo boy runs off with the plastic lid. He looks so funny going down the hall with that big yellow lid in his mouth! The first time he walked around with it he misjudged it's width and bumped into the doorframe! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 18, 2007, at 1:55 PM, Belinda wrote: That seems to be true for the most part because those I've had since kittenhood have had a greater variety in their diet, including human food and Joey being one will eat just about anything, he is not picky at all. My others I got as strays with unknown past histories, some will eat a variety and some will not, they will eat one or two things and that is it!! i was just fascinated by the part about cats, as a species, imprinting on food and non-food when very young. makes so much sense in terms of those who will kill for human food while others couldn't care less, and how difficult it is to change their diets. i'm hoping that one of the books will go into that aspect more fully.. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Stamp went to the bridge
I'm so sorry to hear about Stamp. Gina Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beth, I am so sorry for your loss of Stamp. I had to pts Ally last summer due to FIP, it is a rotten disease. Peace to you and yours, Beth N. On 4/17/07, Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic. Beth - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Genevieve( VitterVits)
Sherry, bless you!!! I am so glad you took Genevieve home. What a beautiful name. I can't wait to see the pictures! Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I did it,I brought home my beautiful felv+ baby girl tonight.So far they are doing pretty good.She is checking out her new home and her new brothers are checking her out.She is doing all the hissing but nothing severe.I sure hope I did the right thing. Dr. Jen said that I better take her tonight cause she had a e-mail about someone interested in adopting her.I think it was a plot to make sure I took her. :) Oh well she is MINE now. :) I will post some pics for you to see her soon.Take care. Sherry and her 5 beautiful babies - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Camilla and Spencer
Poor babies! I will keep them in my prayers. Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are in great need of prayers and good thoughts for these two wonderful babies. Camilla has gone down hill fast and is anemic,she is also one of Dr. Jens all time fav kitties. Spencer has the same thing that Diesel just lost his battle to.But his isn't as bad it is only swollen on one side of his throat.She is trying all that she can for these babies.THanks so much. Sherry - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
OT:: more recalls
I work for a retailer which sells mass quantities of items made in China. Since I chose to shop in my own store, it's going to be doubly hard for me not to buy goods from China. I will do my utmost best! I can't wait for my local farmers market to open in May! :) Gina wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thus the effects of a global economy...things were so much simpler when we weren't buying over 75% of our goods from overseas. I think it's dangerous to our very existence to set up our national economy in this manner. Here's to buying U.S. made only!!! And I will not be buying anything Chinese if I can help it. So much controversy with that country. :) Wendy --- Nina wrote: The death and sickness of what we are dealing with is a the real nightmare. We've already been surprised about how few factories/companies/suppliers are truly involved in the making of our processed pet foods. It can be done. I don't know how long it would take to track this sort of data base, who knows, maybe someone is in the process as I type this. It's already too late for thousands of dogs and cats, I'm very sorry to say that it appears thousands more will experience the same fate before we get to the bottom of it, if we ever do. Nina wendy wrote: It's not just as simple as comparing ingredients when you're talking about this many companies. They have to compare all of the following: each ingredient, from which company each came from, and then for each individual ingredient, they need a list of ingredients that made that ingredient, and which companies provided each of those, and so on...until they get down to the raw ingredients for everything that made that product what it is. Then they also have to look at batches/dates for all of those, and all the manufacturing facilities involved. It's a logistical nightmare... :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RE: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of youconsideringpurchasing one
I got mine at Drs Foster and Smith too. It works really well! Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Marylyn, I have this rubber spongy thing that my friend gave me. Theyre cheap, and I love it! Its grayish black and kind of shaped like a rectangle, but with a curved inner part for you to grip. I think she got it from Drs. Foster and Smith, but Im not really sure. But, this thing takes the fur and rolls it up when you drag is across the upholstery. This is the only way I can vacuum my furnitureI have to do this first which gets up the majority of the hair, but the stuff thats left is actually vacuum-able. I also bought some vacuum spray stuff thats supposed to allow the hair to not stick to furniture, but it was a mess and didnt really work, and it would get in places I didnt want. By far, I stand my rubber thing! Ill look later for a link to one, I couldnt find one on the Drs. Website, but I know its out there somewhere. But, I did read while looking that many people use a rubber glove. Ive never tried it. If you do, let us know! Melissa - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of youconsideringpurchasing one I saw something about rubber gloves (like for washing dishes) getting up fur on upholstery. Has anyone had any experience with this? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: elizabeth trent To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:34 PM Subject: Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you consideringpurchasing one I'm curious -- how much does it hold? I love my purple dyson for animal hair but so help me - we're such a shedding bunch I have to empty it frequently. how does it perform? elizabeth On 4/15/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our new Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden voyage this morning. The kitties were somewhat alarmed at first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes and docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it. Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has been trying to get the brushes out from underneath it. It's too cute. So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my tile floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area along with the front entry way and hallway leading from that. That's as far as it could go since all the doors were shut along the hallway. I was very surprised with how well it patterned itself while cleaning. It got in and out of tight spaces. It even tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued it. We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which is the company that makes Roomba. A better deal than at Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond. They have a pretty decent special, which includes free shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60); fairly cheap for a Roomba. Normally, I am a very frugal person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners in the past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and all have died. Plus, I don't actually have to do the vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the extra money. With the tile, as opposed to the carpet we had that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt shows up, and I'm having to sweep every day as it is. So all in all, I'm happy as of day one. We'll see after a month or so if Roombie was worth it. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today
Tomi boy is gorgeous! C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg Cassandra Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RE: Ages please
My Pippin tested positive at 6 weeks of age on the ELISA test. Five months later we had her retested using the IFA test; she tested negative. She is the reason I joined this group. :) My other three kitties, Tigger (14 years), Taylor (14 years) and Bob (8 years) are negative for FeLV (they are also vaccinated for FeLV.) Gina Here is a link to their photos: http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a106/tiggerwiggins/Our%20Cats/ Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Nan, She sounds precious! I had an all black kitty once when I was a kid--I named her Gorgeous! I only wish I had room and lived closer to Michigan (I'm in northeast Nebraska), but I'm sure someone on here should be able to help you! Please keep us posted! Have you given her a name? Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nan Gelman Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 1:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Ages please- OT- Ferals hi all, It has been a while since I have posted to this site, but I need some help is there anyone in southwest Michigan who would like to adopt a very sweet all black female sprayed kitty cat. This kitty was found in a camp grounds trying to get in to anyone's car that she could. She is about a year old sprayed and front declawed. She tested negative for both FELV and FIV She is very sweet and gentle. Please let me know asap. Thanks so much Nan Original message Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:20:11 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ages please- OT- Ferals To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I know all too well what those poor babies are feeling - being in captivity.And I didn't mean to put them down using the term nasty. Sorry, my mistake. It's not their fault at all But, bless them, being trapped rescued being at the shelter is a lot better than what they were facing - CERTAIN DEATH!!! We got so many calls from people begging for help because they were facing other (kill) shelters coming out to trap them due to complaints from neighbors. And, our shelter/sanctuary is not a bad place All cats are placed in large rooms/areas after initial isolation while doing all tests/bloodwork. And, each area has an outside deck for them. Plus, lots of beds, little huts (to act as hiding places), etc. And, they always have plenty to eat.dry wet. So, they will never face hunger again. Or any illness - we have vets on property 3X a week (Now, medicating them is tricky, but it does get done.) And, I always had (still do, I think[?]) a way in working w/ ferals. Fostered MANY was able to bring them around. Can't even count how many former ferals were adopted. And, now I have my Charity...a former feral. Ended up in ER many times from her!!! And, I was just trying to help.. Even Bart (RIP), meanest feral I ever encountered, trusted me, sadly, too late, when Charity led me to him. I really believe the whole reason Charity is a love-muffin (with me only), is because she knew I had helped Bart, her constant companion. People are the problem, NOT the poor cats. And, education IS the key, but, sadly, too many people won't listen. After all, They're only animals!. Boy, does that p*ss me off! Heard that WAY too many times! Just wanted to clarify expand on my previous post Hugs, Patti her gang See what's free at AOL.com. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Cassandra and Brunello Please add to the ClS :(
Bless you Sherry and all that you do for these babies. They are in my prayers. I am sorry you lost Cassandra and Brunello. Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ok now that I have stopped crying for the moment,let me ask that these sweet angels be added to the list. Cassandra beautiful sleek black girl left us yesterday,she is now with her beautiful sister Carissa. Brunello had a very rough life before Jen took this wonderful rough looking but very handsome boy with the loudest motor into Sids.I fell in love with him the second that I saw him.This was a shocker,I was just there Thursday and he was fine.Yesterday morning when one of the volunteers came in,she found him gasping for breath.It was found that he had a large mass on his trachea. This volunteering is the hardest yet most rewarding thing that I have done in my life.I am soo glad that I have all of you to talk to. Sherry - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: OT: Pregnant Feral Kitty....Questions
I can see both sides of the issue. However, being the softy that I am, I would have trouble aborting the kits. My Tigger and Taylor are the offspring of a feral mom. I guess that's why I feel the way I do. Good luck with the little girl Terrie and let us know how it goes. Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terrie, I disagree with aborting kittens unless you absolutely have no option. When I adopt kittens too young to be altered, the spay/neuter is included in the adoption fee and must be done at my vet. Bingo, if they are late getting them fixed I know it since I havent gotten a bill from my vet. I call and if they don't get them altered I take the cat back (its only happened once) then mom and all babes are fixed and the cycle for that family stops. Karen - See what's free at AOL.com. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you considering purchasing one
How neat! I'd love to have one of those. Sounds like you got a really good deal. Gina wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our new Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden voyage this morning. The kitties were somewhat alarmed at first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes and docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it. Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has been trying to get the brushes out from underneath it. It's too cute. So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my tile floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area along with the front entry way and hallway leading from that. That's as far as it could go since all the doors were shut along the hallway. I was very surprised with how well it patterned itself while cleaning. It got in and out of tight spaces. It even tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued it. We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which is the company that makes Roomba. A better deal than at Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond. They have a pretty decent special, which includes free shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60); fairly cheap for a Roomba. Normally, I am a very frugal person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners in the past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and all have died. Plus, I don't actually have to do the vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the extra money. With the tile, as opposed to the carpet we had that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt shows up, and I'm having to sweep every day as it is. So all in all, I'm happy as of day one. We'll see after a month or so if Roombie was worth it. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion needed on site visit for Maltese shelter
We have a four cat limit in our county. :( Gina Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I think pet limit laws are archaic and silly and should be abolished. But that's beside the point. What if the city code were 6 dogs and 5 cats and tomorrow they changed it to 3 dogs and 2 cats? I mean, you can't predict the future. What if they move somewhere where the code is only 4 dogs? How many of us have had animals 1. in excess of city codes 2. in excess of what was allowed by our landlord 3. in secret from our landlord 4...well, I think you get the point. Fortunately we don't have animal limit laws here, though the shelter limits me to 10 (personal and foster) animals at a time. They only count litters as 1, though. So all my litters, including the ones that are almost 2 years old, I count as 1. That's how I get around it. Heh. On 4/12/07, wendy wrote: Hey guys, I went on my first site visit tonight with my friend who lives here in San Antonio. The only real concern she and I both had were that the family already has 5 dogs and 5 cats. They live in a regular subdivision home in San Antonio (regular size plot-nothing too large, although the backyard is nicely sized). The municipal code says that no more than 5 dogs and 3 cats be in one home at a time. So our question, especially to shelter owners/volunteers, is this: if you know adopting a dog out, even if it's to a good family, will put that family in violation of city codes, would you do it? My friend is not the one making the decision; she's just reporting the information to the shelter. We were just curious as to what your thoughts are on this. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: sweet kitty in sw Michigan/Who has the cat now?
My Taylor is black with a little splash of white on her chest and tummy. She has such beautiful shiny fur! Too bad people are either superstitious or over look them. Gina TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i can post her to the michigan rescue lists if someone can get me more information on where she is, who has her, etc. and in many parts of the country, black cats are the LAST adopted hard for me to understand, as my first two cats were black, but it is true (speaking of which, it's friday the thirteenth, the universal moveable black-cat holiday--celebrate it with someone furry and black that you love!) On 4/13/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is she? Who has her now? cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, she sounds so sweet and it is so sad that she was trying to find security in anybody's car! I hope you find her a home or who belongs to her. I love black cats. My Thomaseena was black and lived to be about 18 years old. I grew up with her. When she died I lost my best friend. My diabetic cat (Katie) is black and she holds a very special place in my heart. Is someone taking care of her until then? Did you say she was declawed? It isn't cheap to have a kitty declawed. You would think somebody cared about her. I will be praying that you find this poor sweet girl's home or a new home. Cindy Reasoner --- Melissa Lind wrote: Debbie, I bet Nina meant that some people are superstitious or believe old wives tales (bad luck if a black cat crosses your path, etc.). Funny that this post occurred on Friday the 13th! Double superstitions! I just saw a beautiful, silky, short hair all black cat roaming our back yard. I called to it from our deck, but it had better things to do! I personally am not superstitious about black cats, but I do throw spilled salt over my left shoulder! :) Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: sweet kitty in sw Michigan needs help out of curiosity - why would a cat have a strike against her for being black? I'm curious. -Original Message- From: Nina Sent: Apr 13, 2007 4:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org , [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: sweet kitty in sw Michigan needs help Hi Nan, I took the liberty of changing the subject line of your post to better indicate what it's about. What a little love this girl sounds like! Poor angel on her own with no front claws trying to get into the safety a human's car. It makes me want to go and scoop her up myself, (I won't even mention that to Bruce or my overcrowded household). Who has the cat right now? Has anyone posted flyers at the campground in case she accidently became lost from her people? Someone might be heartbroken and looking for her as I type this. Are you checking local papers for lost ads? Has someone posted a found ad in the paper near where the campgrounds are? They should also file a found report with the local animal shelter and ask if anyone has reported her missing to the shelter. She does have a strike against her because she's black, (I personally love black cats), but she has quite a rescue story and that might help to find her a home. The very best to you and this sweet baby, please let us know what happens to her. Hey... Wasn't there just someone very nice on this list that was thinking about adopting a neg cat??? Who was that? Wasn't it Marissa?? Marissa, did you end up adopting more cats yet?? Nina Nan Gelman wrote: hi all, It has been a while since I have posted to this site, but I need some help is there anyone in southwest Michigan who would like to adopt a very sweet all black female sprayed kitty cat. This kitty was found in a camp grounds trying to get in to anyone's car that she could. She is about a year old sprayed and front declawed. She tested negative for both FELV and FIV She is very sweet and gentle. Please let me know asap. Thanks so much Nan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
Tomi is in my prayers. I hope by some miracle he'll pull through. Gina C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked. He's been lethargic again lately. The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last week and a half. I just don't understand it. After his transfusion, his blood count went up on its own from 13, to 17, then 19. Now in the last few weeks, its gone down to 17, and now 11. I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half, and now all the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2 tablets a day. I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood. The vet says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and she didn't think another transfusion would be worth it. I don't know what the heck else to do. Maybe I should stop his interferon while giving him the prednisone. This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might actually pull through this, now my hope is pretty much gone :( It's such a feeling of desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not being able to do anything about it. Cassandra Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Many to add to prayers
Prayers coming your way! Hugs, Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone,I need to ask for ALOT of prayers for a few of my sanctuary babies. Nathaniel,sweet handsome tiger and whit boy is terribly anemic and at Jens. Spencer,cute little tiger is a bit bloated and at tha clinic. Cassandra,sweet little black girl not eating well and a bit lethargig and is at the clinic. Camilla,crazy tortie seems to be coming down with something. Miller,sweet tiger seems under the weather. And Milton our new black and white handsome boy is coming down with something too.I TOTALLY fell in love with this boy tonight as soon as I seen his face. :) Sorry for the big list but you wonderful people have the power of good thoughts. Thank you soo much once AGAIN Sherry and her many furry friends - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
Re: Felvtalk - introduction - Chewie and Stitch
Welcome Joe, you have come to the right place. There are a lot of knowledgeable and caring people here. Gina Joe Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy all, This is my first post to this list, thought I'd do a bit of intro. We had three cats in our family. The older two were both castaways that were adopted as adults. Zoro was the oldest and I adopted him from a co-worker when I lived by myself. He died several years ago. The remaining two were Stitch and Chewie. Chewie was the next oldest. She had a really hard start to life, she was originally found, as a stray by some friends of ours. She was probably two or three at the time and she had evidence of being abused - she had some suspicious scars on her underside. She lived with them for a while, very shy/nervous and eventually came out of her shell. A couple years later, they had to move, and couldn't take her with them so we took her in. We had her for several years as well and while we don't know her exact age, best estimate put her at 8-10 years old when she died last month. She had a loss of appetite and started losing weight. She had two trips to the Vet - after the first visit she took a serious turn for the worse so we had her back at the vet only a few days later. A blood test on the second visit revealed that she had FelV. So, considering she was very sick and was suffering from a pretty serious disease we opted to put her to sleep then. :( I didn't know much about FelV then (and I'm still learning about it), but information from both our Vet and online resources I found indicated that it was contagious so we decided to have our third (and youngest) cat tested for it. Stitch is the only one we got as a Kitten and she's about 3.5 years old. I brought her to the vet this weekend and she tested positive for FelV. :( I do intend to learn as much as I can about the disease so we can keep her with us as long as possible. I know that it will eventually catch up to her and our main thing will be to put that off as long as possible. She's still young and healthy so hopefully that'll be a long time still. :) We had been planning to get a second cat, but we've put that plan on hold now. I know it is possible to inoculate against FelV, but given that the vaccine takes a while to take effect, we'd either have to quarantine the new cat until the vaccine took effect or find it someplace else to live for a month or so, and on top of all that I don't think we want to put Stitch through the stress of another housemate at the moment (she doesn't react well to strangers). Thanks, Joe Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091 Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: Please say a prayer for the cats
The poor babies :( My heart goes out to them and the shelter workers. dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patti, We found out a couple of hours ago that over 100 cats perished. 5 fireman were hurt getting the dogs out, and they did save a few cats. The dog area was away from the start of the fire. Apparently, the fire started near the cat area, and the fire was so bad when they got there, that the roof collapsed. If ANY good can come from this, it will be that they can rebuild with the inserance $ and with the support of the community, build a state of the art center. The building was so old, but they had fixed it up really cute. What a crappy time to have this happen...kitten season. The newspaper made it sound better than it was. My friend Bill went up there to check on some cats, and got this straight from the staff there. I am hugging mine extra today. Dede --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dede, I'm in tears [again] it also breaks my heart. Please know my prayers are right there too. (Also praying for a miracle...) Hugs, Patti her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: OT - Easter Kittens
Awww congratulations Kelley! Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could pretend to be the Universe. Would you like a few kittens?:P On 4/8/07, Nina wrote: It puts me in mind of all those kittens you had last year MC. I can only imagine how much work it was, but I couldn't help but be a little jealous. (My crazy is showing!). I love the babies, but the only way I get to interact with them is when the Universe plops them in my lap. Nina TenHouseCats wrote: aw, concatulations, gramma! more babies.. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Visit my Tigger Tales site! - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: pictures of Cassidy and Ashley
They are precious! I like their markings. Both of them look very sweet. Gina Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I know youre all sick of hearing from me, but here are some pictures. I hope this works. Cassidy: http://picasaweb.google.com/mzurovsk/Cassidy/photo?authkey=Iq5dHa-Vucs#5050179613677810130 Ashley: http://picasaweb.google.com/mzurovsk/Ashley/photo?authkey=imb76PXJObI#5050180614405190130 Theyre kind of grainy since my flash isnt working, and I had to lighten them manually. Melissa Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: Diesel
I will definitely keep Diesel in my prayers. Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to say this but could you all add Diesel to your prayers.He is a seet little orange guy who purrs like a diesel.I felt his neck tonight and it was VERY swollen.So I called Dr. Jen and she sent her hubby over to get him so she can keep an eye on him tonight and start him on meds.Sorry for all the begging for prayers but these sweet creatures need all they can get.Hugs to you all Sherry - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
Re: Diesel Please add to the CLS :(
I am sorry you lost precious Diesel :( Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am SO sorry to say that sweet little Diesel has joined the many fur angels that have been lost to this HORRIBLE disease.His throat was swollen so bad that it was impeding his windpipe and making it hard to swallow.It was a mistake that I even noticed it last night.But it may have saved him some suffering if it had gone unnoticed too long.This just breaks my heart once again to lose such a sweet innocent creature. Sherry - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
Mega C Plus?
Has anyone heard of, or given, Mega C Plus to their cats? I clicked on a link in the article and it lead me to the product. Gina wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops...I was referring to the link that MC had posted: http://howl911.com/#headlines Sorry about that. :) Wendy --- wendy wrote: Have you guys read what the FDA is now investigating? That the melamine was added for profit to possibly speed up the gelling of wheat gluten, meaning less wheat gluten was needed, thus making it cheaper for manufacturers. This makes me sick. I am not one that supports our 'global economy' anyway. I am tired of calling 1-800 numbers for help with products I've bought, only to speak with someone in India that I cannot communicate with... wendy --- TenHouseCats wrote: dog biscuits, production runs back to november for some menu foods brands. http://howl911.com/#headlines -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Melamine added on purpose???
I can't even process the idea yet that it might have been intentional. Unbelievable! Off topic: I can't wait until our farmer's market opens in May. I really want to buy as much locally as I can. It's not easy in today's world. It's so hard to find affordable clothing not made in China. Anyone have any suggestions? Gina elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll tell you this...I almost bought a top at Target today during my lunch break --- until I saw that it was made in China. elizabeth On 4/6/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you guys read what the FDA is now investigating? That the melamine was added for profit to possibly speed up the gelling of wheat gluten, meaning less wheat gluten was needed, thus making it cheaper for manufacturers. This makes me sick. I am not one that supports our 'global economy' anyway. I am tired of calling 1-800 numbers for help with products I've bought, only to speak with someone in India that I cannot communicate with... wendy --- TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dog biscuits, production runs back to november for some menu foods brands. http://howl911.com/#headlines -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Mega C Plus? --Lance
Can you tell me some of the benefits you've seen with the Mega C? Gina Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ember gets a 1/4 tsp of Mega C Plus in her morning food. She hasn't had any problems with it. Lance On Apr 7, 2007, at 12:03 AM, Gina WN wrote: Has anyone heard of, or given, Mega C Plus to their cats? I clicked on a link in the article and it lead me to the product. Gina wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops...I was referring to the link that MC had posted: http://howl911.com/#headlines Sorry about that. :) Wendy --- wendy wrote: Have you guys read what the FDA is now investigating? That the melamine was added for profit to possibly speed up the gelling of wheat gluten, meaning less wheat gluten was needed, thus making it cheaper for manufacturers. This makes me sick. I am not one that supports our 'global economy' anyway. I am tired of calling 1-800 numbers for help with products I've bought, only to speak with someone in India that I cannot communicate with... wendy --- TenHouseCats wrote: dog biscuits, production runs back to november for some menu foods brands. http://howl911.com/#headlines -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
Re: advice sought, contacts needed
Hi Melissa, I don't know if you've made a decision yet about Cassidy, but I wanted to add that my Pippin, who will be a year old on April 25th, tested a faint positive on the ELISA test when she was around six weeks old. I had her rested five months later, using the IFA test, and she was negative. So, she either threw off the virus, or she was never positive to begin with (false ELISA). At any rate, I hope you find the answers to help you make a decision about Cassidy. I would not have hesitated to mix my Pippin with my others, even if she had tested positive. After learning from this group, I was ready to keep her regardless. In fact, I had all mine vaccinated against FeLV in preparation to do just that, in case she was truly positive. Blessings, Gina wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Melissa, I mixed my positive with three other negatives and they are all still negative years later. They lived together for four years. As long as your neg's are adults and vaccinated, they'll most likely be fine. In my opinion, fighting/biting is the only sure way to pass FeLV in adults. Also, since this positive kitty you have is so young, she has a 40% chance of throwing off the virus, becoming negative at that point. Even if you don't decide to mix, can Cassidy stay outside until you can test her again in 3-6 months to see if she's negative? Also, there is a high rate of false positives on the FeLV tests. Some tests are more accurate than others. Which test did they do on her? There are FeLV specific shelters that you can take her. The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Kanab, Utah is GREAT! My husband and I visited there in February and they have a wonderful FeLV building (I think it's called Casa de Calmar) where I volunteered for two days. They were not full at that point, but probably will be shortly being that it's kitten season now so you might want to call them asap. Please let us know what you decide to do. Good luck. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.
Re: CLS Please add Thurston and Carmellia
I'm so sorry about Carmellia and Thurston. Thank you for giving them a loving home Gina Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two more of our FeLV+ kitties have gone on to the Rainbow Bridge Carmellia March 13,2007 Thurston March 30,2007 I am having a hard time to write this... Little Thurston was only 3 months old when he came to live with me and he only stayed for about 6 months but during that time he had become my very special little buddy... He was always with me to help with what ever I was doing... He came here with his little sister who also passed on a few weeks earlier... They were very close and I am sure that they now have found each other at the Rainbow Bridge... I just can't believe he is gone and I keep feeling he will come pouncing up to see what I am typing... I had so hoped that he would be one of those very few + babies that stay here for a few years but that just wasn't meant to be Carmellia was a middle aged kitty who had been isolated from other kitties and she was a bit over whelmed with all my other kitties... She stayed in the isolation cage most of the 6 months time that she was here... Her own choice... the door was open... She was friendly though and loved attention in her cage... Just the last month she was starting to sneak out and come to me if the others were sleeping... I can't help but wonder if it was the stress of coming into my home that brought on her passing but she did let me know that she knew she was loved before she left... We will miss Thurston and Carmellia as we do all the other that have been with us for their too short life times... Tad and Marie Visit my Tigger Tales site! - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: Feline blood for transfusion available
Hideyo, I am very sorry Felix crossed the Bridge. Gina elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hideyo, I am so very sorry you lost your Felix. My heart hurts with you.. elizabeth On 4/2/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my Felix passes away due to severe anemia, he had 4 transfusion during the past couple of weeks I hae 2 more units of blood that I purchased form blood bank for my baby Felix available since Felix has gone to heaven please let me know if anyone needs transfusion for your kitty - it's for feline A type.. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
Re: Hi Marissa
I know whoever ends up in your home is going to be very fortunate. I am happy that you have decided to give your abundant love and care to more furbabies. Blessings, Gina Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aw, thanks for asking Wendy! I'm doing okay. The first several days after Slinky went to the bridge I really thought I was doing great! But the last few nights have been pretty rough. The guilt and what-if's started 2 nights ago - if I'd caught the UTI sooner, gotten him in sooner - and to a better vet, done more, paid closer attention, etc In my head I know that's not true, but as someone else said, grief is not logical...and neither is guilt! I really started mourning Slink when I first found out how sick he was...but I think at that point I was mourning the loss of a friend, a companion, someone to keep me company. Now I think I'm mourning the loss of SLINKY...his personality, his sweetness, the amazing bond we had. Those are the things I can't ever get back, despite being able to get new friends, etc. So...it's a process I guess I have to go through, but it's not fun! I cried myself to sleep twice this week - holding his favorite pillow and petting the stuffed cat that looks like him (tho he's way too small). People have been fabulously supportive, though. The vet sent me a card with a very sweet note shortly after our appointment, and yesterday I got cards in the mail from 2 friends. Everyone's been checking on me and MC and Barb have been talking to me almost 24/7 (THANKS GUYS). It's so great to have family and friends help you through these times. Despite all the grief, I know Slink would not want me to be alone (he knows I need some babies to take care of me! lol) and I promised him I would give a good home to other cats. So I've begun looking for 2 new furbabes to adopt. I actually applied for 2 at the Washington Animal Rescue League: http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8110889 http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136096 When I went to visit them again yesterday, one of the staff mentioned that they have a lot of apps in for Patience and that they were already leaning toward someone before I came along, so it sounds like I may not end up with her. But she said there weren't many in on Rufus...because his condition is scarier. I pointed out that I work in disability rights - it takes a lot to scare me! lol They seemed to think this one (below) would be a good match for Rufus since he's pretty quiet. http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136115 I've decided I definitely want special needs kitties...but I just can't do another terminal illness (such as felv) again right now. I don't have the emotional resources...nor the financial. And now that I understand the potential costs of treatments, etc. I don't think it would be very responsible of me to take in a + cat knowing I can't afford to pay for what they may (probably will) need. It's beginning to seem, though, that the special needs kitties are fairly popular...so I'd be willing to take in a healthy, middle-aged cat who's having trouble getting adopted as well. I'll let you all know what happens with the applications...and I know you all will love them even if they're not positive! ;) Thank you all so much for being here! This list has been my lifeline and I know I couldn't get through this stuff without you!!! I hope all your furbabies are doing well!!! MJ and Angel Slinky :) wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Marissa, How are you doing today? You sound pretty upbeat in your posts, so I hope you're feeling good. Slinky is probably so happy to see you doing well, watching you from the top of his 'tree in the sky'. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.
Re: In memory of Bagheera
He was absolutely gorgeous!
Gina
Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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this one of Bagheera. I brought this fella home from the airport where I
worked. We had a lot of temps working at that time and they were hitting at
him, licking, etc... At the same time I had just got married and we bought a
new home. I scooped Bagheera up and took him home. He lived with us for nearly
2 years. He weighed 20+ pounds. He had been someone's pet because he had been
neutered, however they also discovered a bb lodged in his skull where someone
had shot him. He was the most lovable, gentle giant around. Unfortunately we
believe a coyote may have got him. He went out one morning and never returned.
Normally he never left the yard. We miss him dearly and he left his mark upon
our hearts.
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Re: Late FeLV diagnosis
I'm also praying for Mao. Gina C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry that Mao is ill. At least if he is still showing his happy personality, you know that he's not giving up on himself yet. Praying for Mao that he pulls through this and stays with you for quite awhile longer. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Nathan Kennedy To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: Late FeLV diagnosis Yesterday I got the bad news that my boy Mao was FeLV+. This was the worst-case scenario and one that I had dismissed because he tested negative when I rescued him from the street as a baby in October, as had the only other cat he had contact with. He saw the vet on his first visit, the next day for vaccinations and a checkup, a few weeks later for boosters, again for a nasty fever in December that cleared up shortly afterwards, and in January for neutering. Other than the fever, the only problems he had were recurring diarrhea that I tried to manage by modifying his diet and an occasional fit of whooping that the vet had dismissed as hairballs. Those worried me a bit, but the vet's clean bill of health, his big appetite, energy, and growth all reassured me. Until recently. Mao seemed to dull a bit, and started snoring during his naps. Over the past week, Mao developed a nasty case of earmites and increased trouble breathing, progressing into fits of gasping for air. Since he had no runny nose and his temperature was normal, I thought it might be asthma. I took him to the vet on Saturday, and he took a blood sample and X-rayed him, finding a constriction in his trachea. He prescribed prednisone to try to make it easier for him to breathe as well as treatment for the mites. Then Sunday night, Mao almost instantly developed a horrible eye infection. The third eyelid of his right eye closed over and swelled up, blinding him in that eye and making it impossible for him to close it--meanwhile, his breathing deteriorated. He went back to another vet in the morning, and got eyedrops and ointment as well as antibiotics. It wasn't until later in the afternoon I got the call that he had tested FeLV+. Mao's breathing is not improving. The slightest exertion is enough to send him into a loud fit of labored gasping, and when he is not napping every breath is strained--he can't climb his scratching post anymore, which used to be his favorite perch. Despite all that, he still wakes me up in the morning purring and rubbing my face. He still likes to eat and pauses between bites of his favorite food to give me his happy look through his squinting, red eyes. He has always been such a happy cat, and it still shows through all his suffering. But if his condition doesn't get any better I don't think he can last much longer. It's hard to see this happen to Mao at such a young age (not even 8 months yet). The vet who diagnosed him told me that he could have gotten FeLV shortly before I found him and tested negative. I didn't think I would lose him so soon. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/744 - Release Date: 4/3/2007 5:32 AM Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
Re: Lucinda Please add her to the CLS
I'm so sorry Sherry. Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am typing this through tears,I just recieved an e-mail from Dr. Jen that she had to let our sweet beautiful Lucinda go last night.She is now with her 2 babies Mini and Max who we lost last year. Sherry - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.
RE: Margarita Please add to CLS
I was just thinking about the work you do Sherry and how blessed the furbabies are to have you caring for them. I am very sorry about Margarita and all the sweet souls you have lost. Blessings, Gina Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentle Bridge vibes to Margarita. Diane R - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 2:37 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: Margarita Please add to CLS Well we lost another little orange girl.Margarita wasn't with us long,she loved people but not other cats.She loved sitting in our laps and purring like crazy.Jen said she had her with her through the night and cuddled with her.I guess her abdomen filled with fluids. Sherry - Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: Please add Hillman Waller to cls
Jeni, I'm sorry about Hillman Waller. I hope his crossing was peaceful. Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeni,I am so sorry about Hillman Waller.Hugs to you. Sherry JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We had to put Hillman Waller to sleep last night, it was a hard decision but best for him. He was a 1.5 years and was the sweetest cat ever! Positive as a kitten and also developed lymphosarcoma, but even with the surgery that took out most of it near his throat, we think it came back. He went into respiratory failure last night. But I take comfort in knowing not only is he with all the wonderful feluk kitties that have passed on, he is also with Papoose, that we lost last may. Jeni _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Slinky - Please add to the CLS
You made me tear up Beth. I found a little lock of fur in my house after my Buddy died and I kept it. I like to pet it now and again. I totally understand where you are coming from. Gina Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so sorry.. I know how hard it is. If my boyfriend hadn't bee holding me when I put my second FeLV kitty to sleep I really think I would have snatched her from the table and ran, even though I knew it was the right thing to do. I had the vet shave some hair from the belly of one of my FeLV cats after he was PTS. He had the most beautiful golden belly fur. I put it in the jar with his ashes. Now I can pet him any time I want. Beth Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I guess I need to complete the updates on Slinky, huh? Yes, he went to the bridge last night. I was having second thoughts all day yesterday...he, of course, perked up a bit, sat in the window sill again (hadn't done that in ages), and was still drinking, eating, and breathing fine. I even started to wonder if his nose looked pinker. But I decided to go to the vet appointment and ask her what she thought - and that all important question, what would you do if he were your kitty? Right before we left I think I finally understood that it really was time. It occurred to me that on Sunday he was very cuddly with me and initiating some cuddle time on his own. But yesterday he didn't want anything to do with me. And when we left the vet on Monday, someone said he'd tell me when it was time, and I remember thinking, I think he already has told me but I didn't want to believe it. I think his spirit left on Sunday...I think all that cuddling was him saying goodbye and beginning to get ready for the journey. So we went to the vet and I asked her if she thought his nose looked pinker. She looked at his gums, etc. and assured me that they were not. I was tempted to have her do another CBC, but that seemed like just adding to the torture he'd already been through. Without my even asking, the vet said, If this were my cat, this is what I would be doing. Not only is he not getting any better, but he's actually getting steadily worse...and he's just going to suffer if we wait much longer. She of course pointed out that I had the option of waiting, but that seemed like it would just drag out the inevitable. He was so weak the last couple days that he couldn't even get back on the bed once he'd gotten down. The vet explained everything in detail and even shaved some of his fur for me since I'd forgotten I wanted a sample (good cuz what she got was way better than anything I could've gotten with a scissors). Then she gave him the tranquilizer (I think she did it quickly so I wouldn't have time to change my mind...knowing that was best for me and for Slinky). She said it would take a few minutes for it to work, so they left and I just held him and cried and told him how much I loved him. Thanked him for letting me share in his life and told him I was giving him the only gift I could at this point. The room we were in had a beautiful painting of the bridge, so I showed it to him and told him that was where he was going. They had put a sheep skin-like pad on the table and when they came back I laid him on that and put his head on his favorite pillow (he loved to knead on this sqush pillow I have). She thought they might have to put a catheter in his front leg to get the needle in since his veins were so small, but she was able to do it in his back leg. Once it was in, I just held him and cried and cried some more. But I know he was in peace. He visited me this morning - as I was waking up I could hear the birds outside my window and I distinctly heard a meow (I remember thinking that I didn't know of a bird that meowed). When it happened I got chills. And when I woke up fully I realized that he was letting me know that he's happy and he loves me. I'm actually doing much better than I expected to be. After the vet appointment my friend took me out to dinner and then to ben and jerry's (self-medicating is always good!), which distracted me and that helped a lot. Of course when I got home I completely lost it, but I knew that would happen. I called dad and he was wondeful about telling me I did all the right things, that he loves me, and not to worry about paying all those bills back 'till some time in the future. Today I relaxed in the morning and then went and got my hair cut (my stylist is dad's partner and the owner of the salon...so he has lots of experience with losing kitties) and did some shopping. I got a stuffed kitty that looks just like Slinky, so he'll be my new sleeping buddy. I thought I would lose it when I came home tonight, but I just choked up for a bit and really was okay. I know all the prayers and thoughts everyone is sending me are
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Isn't a small amount of vegetables and grains okay for a dog? I don't have dogs, so I don't know. Gina Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't it depend what you feed them though? I mean I wouldn't think they should eat oh..fettucini alfredo..but if they are eating cooked meat shouldn't it be ok? On 3/26/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i did see some flyers at the pet food store friday where you can order home cooked 'people' food for your dogs. i didn't get the company name because i was too busy laughing (not to mention, i saw the flyer on the floor while using the restrooom). the company is serious though. they have very nice color flyers. the food looks just like what the black eyed pea cooks up for it's customers. not sure it's healthy though. vets tell people not to feed their dogs people food. :) wendy --- TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, they have these businesses all over the country for people to get together and cook up a week's worth of meals with other people, in a fully-equipped kitchen, etc. good company, instructions, all the ingredients-- someone needs to start up a business, then franchise it, doing that for homemade pet-meals! people could get together, talk about their critters, share information--and go home with food! too bad i am totally USELESS when it comes to manifesting anything i visualize. the concrete details slay me -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
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Mama kitty was so fortunate to have you as her human and I feel very fortunate to know you from this list and also to know the rest of the list members. You are all blessings in my life, Gina elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you. I am such an independent cuss -- never thought I would need support from anyone but you all have done so much to help me through Mama Kitty's illness and her death. This group has been a valuable source of information and comfort. I've come to think of you as family and I just can't see unsubscribing at this point. I hope it is ok to stay. I do have one FeVL+ interest. One of my ferals that I've been feeding for a couple of years -- I named him Zulu -- was captured and neutered by my neighbor (who is involved with cat rescue) last year. He tested positive for FeVL and they would not allow him to be PTS (I am grateful to them for that). He is so very feral that there was no hope of ever being able to adopt him. We all wrestled with the decision but we decided to return him to the wild. We are well outside of the city limits and reasoned that since he is neutered he would be far less likely to bite anyone. They clipped his ear to indicate that he was neutered and vaccinated. The decision to set him free was a controversial one -- but I've seen too many cats here have to live their lives in cages and I pleaded with the cat rescue to set him free and they agreed. We have one neighbor here who has outside kitties - and we contacted him first and sent him a lot of information on FeVL+ (although he was already very well educated) and he agreed that for our Zulu in this situation - this was by far the best decision. Since they released Zulu, I've constantly kept good food in the bistro here at Liz's Kitty Boutique and Day Spa (and sometimes infirmary). He has a healthy appetite and eats very well. Zulu will now let me stand within one foot of the door (inside) while he eats (outside)..but he is constantly on guard to see if he needs to flee for his life. I give him as much peace as possible since meals should be eaten in peace. If we were ever to test him again, we would have to trap him - and he is now very wise to that. I figure the best I can do is keep giving him quality food and clean water and sneak in supplements when I can. As I grieve it is good to know that there are so many of you who do understand. There is nothing more heart wrenching than literally burying someone you love. I can't remember if I told you but one neighbor gave me a beautiful granite stone that he found in Colorado the week before - it is about a foot wide and made of granite. This stone marks Mama's grave...along with a beautiful gift from another neighbor: she brought Mama a beautiful copper shepherd's hook...from this hangs a stone bird bath from a black chain that hangs low beside Mama Kitty's grave. Mama did so love to watch the birdies. Mama's grave is surrounded by roses -- not just the wonderful perfectly formed Hybrid Tea roses for cutting (only fragrant ones planted here) -- but also several OGRs (Old Garden Roses) that are so wonderfully fragrant - like Bayse's purple (a rugosa) and some beautiful pink and fragrant pink bourbon roses..two Loetta Liggett's...can't name them all. Clematis' wind up the old roses that bloom once so that there are blooms on them throughout the season There are also daffodils, irises and beautiful pink and white impatiens. I planted a mini rose beside her grave this weekend - a prolific bloomer..fragrant and a soft peach color..delicate and beautiful like she was. I've been thinking of getting some guardian figures to protect her grave -- like Bastet or some lions...but I mostly want for it to be beautiful and peaceful and a place that calms the spirit of all who visit. The place where she is buried will be the most beautiful part of this yard. It meant so much to me that my parents asked if they could come over to see where she is buried. They cried with me. I am so very fortunate to be surrounded by love. I cannot tell you how many times this weekend I have seen Mama Kitty with me as I was sitting on her porch. I see her everywhere. I know she is with me. Thanks for listening to me ramble...and most of all, thank you to all of you. i love you all so much. elizabeth Visit my Tigger Tales site! - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
Re: To Kelley: RE: Small meltdown
I often have to explain to my husband why I'm crying and it's generally over an Internet friend's cat who is sick or who has died. He seems to get it now! :) Gina wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lololol...should I be laughing at this??? it does sound crazy, but we all know you aren't. thanks for the endorphins :) wendy --- Kelley Saveika wrote: Wendy, I have meltdowns nearly every day just reading this list. I can barely read the feline heart list at all. And yeah, I cry at work too. It isn't good... Try explaining to your boss that you aren't crying over your own cat...you are crying over your Internet friends' cat that you've never met (the friend or the cat). Kelley On 4/3/07, wendy wrote: Leah, In a twisted way, I am glad I'm not alone. Of course, in my own utopia, I would never wish those kinds of memories on anyone. You used the perfect term...agonizing. Prayers going out for peace for all of us. :) Wendy --- Wolf, Leah R. wrote: Wendy, You are not alone. It took two weeks for my Bubba to die from felv and watching him slip away inch by inch was agonizing. When I think of him, I have to force myself not to dwell on the experience or else I will break down all over again. Leah -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Small meltdown Hey guys, Why is it that even a year and a half after Cricket's passing, I can burst into tears after having flashbacks of the night he died? To a logical person (being me), it sounds ridiculous and overdramatic. But the fact remains that when I allow myself to remember what happened with Cricket the night he died, and how horrible it was, it sends me straight into meltdown. I am at work for heaven's sake. Usually, when I think about Cricket, I don't think about that one day in his life. But it seems so unfair that he couldn't have a more peaceful death. I will never forget his suffering, even knowing that he is now at rest. Why do some people's/animal's last days of their lives have to be filled with pain and suffering? I just don't understand it. I think maybe all the recent losses, and sadly there have been many, might be bringing my memories back, but maybe that's a good thing? Maybe we never really fully stop grieving, but every little meltdown we have allows us to heal a little more. Thanks for letting me ramble about my lack of understanding of the meaning of life. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.
Re: To Nina: Re: What to do with feral cat attacking my cats
My Buddy was a street cat, skittish and scared (though probaby not feral) and he ended up being the sweetest cat I've ever had, and that was before we had his pom poms removed. He was 15 pounds of pure muscle and had the neatest cheek pouches that the vet said he had because he was an adult tom cat when we rescued him. He got a little pudgy after the neutering though. He was my FIV+ boy. It's been almost four and a half years since he crossed the Bridge and I still grieve for his gentle soul. I always will. Some street cats make the BEST house cats. You just never know. :) Gina Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aww, so wonderful to hear about Nilla Belle, (pardon me Nilla for calling you a he :-) ). I love the success stories! Ya know Wendy, so many of these street tough thugs turn into the sweetest couch potatoes once they are relieved of those bothersome pom poms. He may not be as nasty as he appears. Do you remember my FIV boy, Starman? He bit me so hard at first that it would not only puncture my skin, but left bruises around the bite site. He is now the fattest, happiest, most content lap cat you could imagine, (I'll send you a picture off list). His girlfriend is our tiny Pistol, she's all of 7lbs soaking wet and Star is pushing 20lb. She wanted nothing to do with him and his burly ways when he came to live with us, but he wore her down with his persistent and patient adoration and now they sleep and play together. He follows her around like some underpaid bodyguard, it's so cute. So, you never know what personality lurks under all that testosterone, fear and self preservation. Nina wendy wrote: Thanks for asking about Nilla Belle. She's wonderful!!! I can't believe I am even saying that, but she is just the BEST dog. She is so smart, and loving, and walks like a trained showdog. We're blessed to have her. Thanks for all the rescue info. This will help when approaching them for help. :) Wendy Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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I am so sorry about Midnight. Gina Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to add to the bad news but I just want everyone to know that I lost Midnight over the weekend. He had started throwing up a lot on Thursday. He seemed a little slower than normal but he had no other symptoms. I woke up Sunday morning about 4 am to find him curled up beside me but he was gone. Thank you to everyone on this list. You have all been so great and helpful. Jennifer Madon Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
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That's true Marilyn. And often they know when it's time to visit. My Buddy did and it comforted me beyond words. Gina Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Midnight left this world where he felt the safest--right by your side. Know how much he adores you. Ask him to visit. He wants to but thinks he should wait until you are ready. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Jennifer Madon To: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:29 AM Subject: Too much bad news I hate to add to the bad news but I just want everyone to know that I lost Midnight over the weekend. He had started throwing up a lot on Thursday. He seemed a little slower than normal but he had no other symptoms. I woke up Sunday morning about 4 am to find him curled up beside me but he was gone. Thank you to everyone on this list. You have all been so great and helpful. Jennifer Madon Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Update on Chief
Terrific news! Gina TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: great news on both fronts! (hm. have we mentioned lately how nice it is to have flight attendants who use their passes to help transport special-needs kitties?) MC On 3/29/07, Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well My parents decided to keep Chief when it came right down to it. So, he's got a good, safe home as an only kitty. :D And, I am interviewing with the airlines to be a flight attendant!! I AM SO EXCITED!!! Steph -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA.
Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty
I'm so sorry that Mama Kitty had to leave you. You were a great mom to her. Gina elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mama Kitty, You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much. You are surrounded by roses. I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms. It hurts so much to say goodbye. You will forever be alive in my heart. I love you. elizabeth Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS
You and Hammy are in my thoughts. Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little Hammy.He is now with all the Angel fur kids. Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much Sherry - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
Re: Slinky - Please add to the CLS
Marissa, My heart aches for your loss of Slinky. Gina Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I guess I need to complete the updates on Slinky, huh? Yes, he went to the bridge last night. I was having second thoughts all day yesterday...he, of course, perked up a bit, sat in the window sill again (hadn't done that in ages), and was still drinking, eating, and breathing fine. I even started to wonder if his nose looked pinker. But I decided to go to the vet appointment and ask her what she thought - and that all important question, what would you do if he were your kitty? Right before we left I think I finally understood that it really was time. It occurred to me that on Sunday he was very cuddly with me and initiating some cuddle time on his own. But yesterday he didn't want anything to do with me. And when we left the vet on Monday, someone said he'd tell me when it was time, and I remember thinking, I think he already has told me but I didn't want to believe it. I think his spirit left on Sunday...I think all that cuddling was him saying goodbye and beginning to get ready for the journey. So we went to the vet and I asked her if she thought his nose looked pinker. She looked at his gums, etc. and assured me that they were not. I was tempted to have her do another CBC, but that seemed like just adding to the torture he'd already been through. Without my even asking, the vet said, If this were my cat, this is what I would be doing. Not only is he not getting any better, but he's actually getting steadily worse...and he's just going to suffer if we wait much longer. She of course pointed out that I had the option of waiting, but that seemed like it would just drag out the inevitable. He was so weak the last couple days that he couldn't even get back on the bed once he'd gotten down. The vet explained everything in detail and even shaved some of his fur for me since I'd forgotten I wanted a sample (good cuz what she got was way better than anything I could've gotten with a scissors). Then she gave him the tranquilizer (I think she did it quickly so I wouldn't have time to change my mind...knowing that was best for me and for Slinky). She said it would take a few minutes for it to work, so they left and I just held him and cried and told him how much I loved him. Thanked him for letting me share in his life and told him I was giving him the only gift I could at this point. The room we were in had a beautiful painting of the bridge, so I showed it to him and told him that was where he was going. They had put a sheep skin-like pad on the table and when they came back I laid him on that and put his head on his favorite pillow (he loved to knead on this sqush pillow I have). She thought they might have to put a catheter in his front leg to get the needle in since his veins were so small, but she was able to do it in his back leg. Once it was in, I just held him and cried and cried some more. But I know he was in peace. He visited me this morning - as I was waking up I could hear the birds outside my window and I distinctly heard a meow (I remember thinking that I didn't know of a bird that meowed). When it happened I got chills. And when I woke up fully I realized that he was letting me know that he's happy and he loves me. I'm actually doing much better than I expected to be. After the vet appointment my friend took me out to dinner and then to ben and jerry's (self-medicating is always good!), which distracted me and that helped a lot. Of course when I got home I completely lost it, but I knew that would happen. I called dad and he was wondeful about telling me I did all the right things, that he loves me, and not to worry about paying all those bills back 'till some time in the future. Today I relaxed in the morning and then went and got my hair cut (my stylist is dad's partner and the owner of the salon...so he has lots of experience with losing kitties) and did some shopping. I got a stuffed kitty that looks just like Slinky, so he'll be my new sleeping buddy. I thought I would lose it when I came home tonight, but I just choked up for a bit and really was okay. I know all the prayers and thoughts everyone is sending me are helping a ton!!! I think half the population of the US is praying for me and checking on me! You guys have been absolutely amazing and having people to talk to who've been there and understand how this is has been an unbelievable help! Thank you all so much for all your support!!! I know this is kinda long, but since you've all been reading so much about Slink, I thought you might want to know some of the details of his crossing. Thanks again for everything...I know I couldn't get through this without you!! Love to you and all your furkids! MJ -
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LOL My Pippin used to try to bury the Innova wet food! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and Cheese. My cats devour this stuff and will begged for it. Friskies Prime Fillets Fancy Feast Medley Whiskas Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the kitty will eat. I have bought the expensive food in the past and it was a waste of money they wouldn't eat it...tried to bury it! My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say give what they will eat to get the something solid and water from the wetfood. Too many changes in food isn't good for them due their digestive tract. So be careful. I too remember feeding my cats years ago Puss n Boots and Friskies in the big cans. It was when there wasn't so many varieties as today but they were happy with it. Didn't have all the health problems either...makes ya wonder though. Boy, times have changed! Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/ - AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
Re: Brady Add to CLS please
I'm very sorry about Brady :( Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THis sweet handsome gray tiger boy won me over at Crashs,on Sunday I noticed he didn't look well and we lost him today to FIP.He was a shy boy but I helped get him to trust.THe power of Temptations treats. :) This one really hurts.Well they all do,I don't usually get too attached to the ones that have a chance at getting adopted but I really like this guy.He didn't have felv but could we add him to the list?THanks so much Sherry - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
Re: Hammy
Sending prayers for sweet Hammy. Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all could you please send prayers and good vibes to one of our newest Sids kids,he is having a difficult time and is at Dr Jens house where her 11 year old son is helping taking extra care of him.He is felv+.Thanks everyone. Sherry - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
Re: Please add Ricky Rick to the CLS
I am so sorry for your loss of Ricky Rick. Gina Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri Feb 9, 2007 Ricky Rick was helped to end his suffering from lymphoma and FeLV... Ricky was a big old black and white tux tom cat when he was brought into the shelter... He tested pos but he was such a friendly old fellow that they had to try and find him a home... He came to live with me about 15 months ago and was very happy and quickly became friends with the other cats... He had been stray for some time and his coat was very shabby but with good food he soon became such a handsome fellow... It wasn't long though before we noticed his lymph nodes were swelling... He took his pred. and the progression was very slow but then this last week he was peeing blood and not swolling his food and it was time to let him go on Rick had his own pillow right next to mine that he has slept on at night for as long as I can remember and I miss not having him there... But then my feral cat that I have been taming for 2 1/2 years and must sense that this is a sad time has been much closer in the last few days and she may be the one to take over that spot We will miss our friendly old Ricky Rick. Tad and Marie Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
Re: Please add Luvy to CLS
Precious Luvy, though your time was short on the earth, you lived a lifetime of love with your family. My condolences go out to you Tad and Marie. Gina Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb. 8, 2007 Luvy lost her short life to FeLV... She was just 7 months old.. When she was about one week old she and her brother were brought into the shelter with no mother.. I suppose she may have died from FeLV soon after giving new life... A king rescue person bottle fed them and they were healthy playful 8 week old kittens ready for adoption and then they tested pos... At 12 weeks old they came to live with me... I don't know if they had been free to run around the house all the time before but they seemed to enjoy it as much or more than any kittens I have known before... The boy was neutered before leaving the shelter but I talked them into waiting and let me do it here later after the stress of moving was over... I took her in at 6 months and she seemed a little slow in getting back to normal but 2 weeks later when we went in to have stitches out she seemed fully recovered... I let the vet give both of them rabies shots at that time... The boy was fine but she stopped eating on her own but took assist feeding OK.. A couple days later she was having labored breathing and we took her back to the vet... X-ray showed fluid in the lung cavity and the vet could see cancer cells in the fluid,,, We agreed she wasn't suffering but just fading and we brought her home to finish her life... With a little assistance she went to her same favorite places and purred when on my chest with her nose touching mine.. On Wed. night she refused to take any food and we knew the end was near.. Early thur. morning she was still alive and snuggled at my feet with 3 other big cats but a couple hours later she had passed on... Her time with us seemed so very short but she was such a little luv bug that she will remain in our memories for ever... We will miss you little Luvy... Tad and Marie Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
Re: Lucy and unsubscribing
Michelle, I've learned a lot from you and I really value your opinion. I hope that you just take a break from the list mail and take time for yourself right now. Please don't unsubscribe. Gina Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto, Michelle. We all have different feelings and opinions -- and nobody is trying to tell you what to do. What is right for one person isn't right for another. One thing I like about the list is the way we play devil's advocate for one another -- sometimes asking hard questions. Then whoever is on the receiving end can take what they want and leave the rest. Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't go Michelle, we all value your knowledge and input and want to be able to help you (whether by advice or just being an ear to hear) as you have helped so many of us. You having Gray there to be a 2nd pair of eyes is a blessing for YOU. Surely, you trust him to tell you if he thinks you're trying too hard to save Lucy. HIS and YOUR opinions and knowledge of Lucy are the best that exist and you have gone through the deaths of animal friends together before. And the making or not-making of the decision to assist. That said, I certainly see that a break from the list could be helpful to you and your state of mind. Would you be willing to just go No-Mail? GLOW to you and your family for strength, clarity and peace. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2007 6:49:31 PM Subject: Lucy and unsubscribing Since I last wrote, Lucy got up, climbed all 14 stairs to the upstairs, ate half a jar of baby food and a couple pieces of dry food, curled up on a cat bed, and is purring away as Gray pets her. When Gray poured the dry food for Patches, Lucy literally got up and ran over to it, trying to push Patched out of the way. I know she has FIP, or most likely does. I know there is no real cure and it will get her. But today does not seem to be the day, and I do not think it is selfish to decide that. Someone who can and wants to climb stairs, wants to eat (even if not a normal amount), wants company and pets, and can go running over to a bowl of food is, in my opinion, not asking to be killed. To whoever wrote that I should not do home euthanasia, I was not considering home euthanasia, I was considering, in an emergency if she gets in distress, tranquilizing her until a vet could come or we could get to a vet. i did that with Simon and he immediately slept and actually died in his sleep before we needed to. But it was not intended as euthanasia. I and several others on the list have also used oral valium to ease passings, and it has done so. I do not think this is irrational. I stopped reading posts after that and just deleted, to whoever wrote something in the subject line about allowing suffering. Given that I had just come downstairs from Lucy's little trek and eating spree, it seemed too ridiculous to read. This list has been a godsend for me at times, and I have made friendships with a few of you that I hope to continue offline from the group. But this group is not helping me right now and is actually upsetting me quite a bit. So I am unsubscribing. Nina and Hideyo, I hope to stay in touch with you individually, and anyone else who actually wants to, and to share ideas and emotional support. But I am done with the group. Michelle - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
