from:"James"

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html

A new version of AS3 will be nice, it's just too bad no one wants Flash
anymore. Flash player is basically dead in the water, with its future usage
being hardcore gaming. How many of you guys/gals are doing that?



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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it. :)

What exactly are you referring to? I have very few examples of things that
Flash can do that HTML5/CSS3/JS cant do these days. At my agency Flash is
being utilized for banner ads, and that's it. Every cool, animated website
we do these days is built in HTML. I am seriously afraid to start
developing for mobile, because the second a client asks for some
functionality that requires Native Extensions to work, I'll be totally SOL.

Wouldn't it be such a nice world if JS was revised with ECMAScript 4? It's
unfortunate that it will never happen.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Ima Newsletta
bignewsletter...@gmail.comwrote:

At last, Adobe showed us that is alive.

Il 22/02/2012 20:01, John R. Sweeney Jr. ha scritto:

When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it. :)

John

John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169

On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:50 PM, James Merrill wrote:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**flashplatform/whitepapers/**roadmap.htmlhttp://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html

A new version of AS3 will be nice, it's just too bad no one wants Flash
anymore. Flash player is basically dead in the water, with its future
usage
being hardcore gaming. How many of you guys/gals are doing that?

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

I'm going to play devils advocate here for a second.

The whole browser compatibility aspect of HTML is diminishing, modern
browsers are constantly updated without having to re-download them. In a
couple of years, it won't be a problem.

Another major concern of mine was seeing this site:
http://www.nikechosenseries.com/

That's basically Flash quality, with SEO, linking, native scroll, all the
goodies from HTML. Once it becomes easy to develop sites like that, I can't
see why using Flash would be better.




On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Creighton, Gerry gcreigh...@discmakers.com
 wrote:

 Except that you need a certain level of browser to handle HTML5. That's
 the bummer, it'll
 Take some time to get more people on board.

 -Gerry

 On 2/22/12 2:24 PM, James Merrill jmerri...@gmail.com wrote:

  When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it.  :) 
 
 What exactly are you referring to? I have very few examples of things that
 Flash can do that HTML5/CSS3/JS cant do these days. At my agency Flash is
 being utilized for banner ads, and that's it. Every cool, animated website
 we do these days is built in HTML. I am seriously afraid to start
 developing for mobile, because the second a client asks for some
 functionality that requires Native Extensions to work, I'll be totally
 SOL.
 
 Wouldn't it be such a nice world if JS was revised with ECMAScript 4? It's
 unfortunate that it will never happen.
 
 
 
 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Ima Newsletta
 bignewsletter...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  At last, Adobe showed us that is alive.
 
 
  Il 22/02/2012 20:01, John R. Sweeney Jr. ha scritto:
 
   When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it.  :)
 
  John
 
  John R. Sweeney Jr.
  Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
  OnDemand Interactive Inc
  Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
 
 
 
 
  On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:50 PM, James Merrill wrote:
 
 
 http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**flashplatform/whitepapers/**roadmap.html
 h
 ttp://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html
 
  A new version of AS3 will be nice, it's just too bad no one wants
 Flash
  anymore. Flash player is basically dead in the water, with its future
  usage
  being hardcore gaming. How many of you guys/gals are doing that?
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

I haven't personally tried WebGL. I have seen tests though that show it's
faster than Flash. However, there aren't any major frameworks like we have
for Flash Stage3D. I am sure that will change in time though. I don't know
if it's a safe bet that Flash will win out over HTML5 with 3D.

In regards to development speed, Flash definitely kicks ass. It's
unquestionably faster to develop it, and AS3 is IMO, a superior language to
JS. This is what hangs me up the most. I want to use AS3 for Web
Development, but it doesn't look like that's going to be viable for much
longer.

Javascript doesn't support classes, but you can hack in public in
private variables by playing around with object scope. It's not a very
ideal situation.

@Matt
I should have pointed out that there are some Flash elements on that site.
The HTML page transitions are ridiculous though.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Merrill, Jason 
jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote:

 Have you tried building an interactive 3D environment in Javascript/HTML5?
  There is 3D capability out there, but most of the examples I have seen
 have been ports from C++ code. Just because there is a trend towards
 something, and it's possible to do something with a new tech, doesn't make
 it the best option. Most of my friends in the interactive space tell me
 while they can do most Flash like stuff in HTML 5/Canvas/CSS3/Javascript,
 it takes about three times longer than it does in Flash/Flex/Actionscript
 and they don't get the same OOP benefits when programming.

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  Instructional Technology Architect II
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 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:53 PM
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Platform roadmap released - time to start
 learning HTML 5 unless you make games.

 I'm going to play devils advocate here for a second.

 The whole browser compatibility aspect of HTML is diminishing, modern
 browsers are constantly updated without having to re-download them. In a
 couple of years, it won't be a problem.

 Another major concern of mine was seeing this site:
 http://www.nikechosenseries.com/

 That's basically Flash quality, with SEO, linking, native scroll, all the
 goodies from HTML. Once it becomes easy to develop sites like that, I can't
 see why using Flash would be better.




 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Creighton, Gerry 
 gcreigh...@discmakers.com
  wrote:

  Except that you need a certain level of browser to handle HTML5.
  That's the bummer, it'll Take some time to get more people on board.
 
  -Gerry
 
  On 2/22/12 2:24 PM, James Merrill jmerri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it.  :) 
  
  What exactly are you referring to? I have very few examples of things
  that Flash can do that HTML5/CSS3/JS cant do these days. At my agency
  Flash is being utilized for banner ads, and that's it. Every cool,
  animated website we do these days is built in HTML. I am seriously
  afraid to start developing for mobile, because the second a client
  asks for some functionality that requires Native Extensions to work,
  I'll be totally SOL.
  
  Wouldn't it be such a nice world if JS was revised with ECMAScript 4?
  It's unfortunate that it will never happen.
  
  
  
  On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Ima Newsletta
  bignewsletter...@gmail.comwrote:
  
   At last, Adobe showed us that is alive.
  
  
   Il 22/02/2012 20:01, John R. Sweeney Jr. ha scritto:
  
When HTML5 can do what I can do in AS3, I'll consider it.  :)
  
   John
  
   John R. Sweeney Jr.
   Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc
   Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
  
  
  
  
   On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:50 PM, James Merrill wrote:
  
  
  http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**flashplatform/whitepapers/**roadmap.h
  tml
  h
  ttp://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html
  
   A new version of AS3 will be nice, it's just too bad no one wants
  Flash  anymore. Flash player is basically dead in the water, with
  its future  usage  being hardcore gaming. How many of you
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[Flashcoders] audio recorder from Red5 to rtmplite

2010-07-02 Thread James Salsman

About half a year ago I had someone help me with this recorder which
works great with Red5: http://talknicer.com/d/audioup.html
The source for it is at: http://actionscript.pastebin.com/r9P87093 --
that is in the public domain, by the way, so you may adapt it for your
use if you like.

I'm trying to get it to work with rtmplite --
http://code.google.com/p/rtmplite -- but it doesn't work; it records
13 byte (empty) .flv files, for some reason. The testClient which
comes with the rtmplite download works fine, so here's what I need,
from someone who has better Flash/Flex debugging skills than I do
(most Flex programmers, I bet): Please go through rtmplite's
testClient, making a note of the calls and events it uses to connect
and upload to the rtmplite server, then change the audioup.mxml
recorder to do it the way rtmplite wants it.

I am willing to pay for this, but I'm also hoping that the general
simplicity of this task (says the coder who can't do it) combined with
the generosity of the fancy public domain audio recorder will lead to
free help.  But again, I'm happy to pay so if this is something that
will take more time that you would want to trade for the code
involved, please quote me an estimate.

Please let me know if you have any trouble compiling with your rtmp: url. I use:
  mxmlc -debug=true audioup.mxml
for development.

Thanks for your help with this. I really need the smaller memory footprint.

Sincerely,
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RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone remember 3d tile stacking physics app?

2009-03-24 Thread James Marsden

http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/08/04/the-making-of-tileui/

Here y'go! 


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drongo
Sent: 24 March 2009 11:01
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: [Flashcoders] Anyone remember 3d tile stacking physics app?

Hi there I saw a video that showed the speeded-up development for an
application that used the cove APE physics engine to create a 3D effect
board with tiles on that you could move around and stack.
I can't find this anywhere.

Can anyone point me in the direction of the project or the video that
shows the development?

Thanks :)


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RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone remember 3d tile stacking physics app?

2009-03-24 Thread James Marsden

There's this too:

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/anand_agarawala_demos_his_bumptop_des
ktop.html 

Cheers,

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RE: [Flashcoders] Open Source PRISM Game Engine

2009-03-14 Thread James Marsden

Hello,

Thanks for the wish of luck. I've had a bug to work in the games
industry since I was at college. I sucked at Maths at school so was told
pretty early on that I'd never be able to work in the games industry.
Back then I had no idea that 'game design' was a recognised role. Damned
careers advice.

So when I left Uni I had something to prove and started making this
engine as a vehicle to pitch game ideas. 

I'm still an artist at heart, so I've moved from coding to game design.

The engine has opened a lot of doors for me over the years, so now it's
time to give something back :)

Cheers,

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Sent: 13 March 2009 22:07
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Open Source PRISM Game Engine

Looks nice. Speed is really amazing. How comes that an art graduate is
involved in coding a game engine for about 3 years ? :)

good luck with that one. good example of what you can archive if you
JUST DO IT!



James Marsden schrieb:
 Hey folks,

 [ apologies for cross posting ]
  

 I've decided to open source a 2D Flash game engine/framework I've been

 slaving over for years.

 The engine was previously licensed for use by the BBC on this game:
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/run/play.shtml
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/run/play.shtml

 It's also responsible for a game demo that helped us make a big 
 impression on PlayStation a couple of years ago:
 http://www.futurlab.co.uk/games/prism/
 http://www.futurlab.co.uk/games/prism/

 - and more recently was used to create this demo:
 http://www.futurlab.co.uk/revenge/ 
 http://www.futurlab.co.uk/revenge/
 - select 'Play Demo' and then 'Play Scene' for Scene 9.

 Here is a list of the features:
 http://www.futurlab.co.uk/Prism_Engine.png
 http://www.futurlab.co.uk/Prism_Engine.png  - there's also some 
 pretty advanced enemy A.I that enables enemies to jump around from 
 platform to platform to chase a player down, which isn't showcased by
either demo.


 There's no doubt in my mind that the engine is awesome, and lots of 
 different types of 2D games can be made with it quickly.



 However, the architecture of the engine probably isn't too awesome 
 because I'm a fine art graduate!

 It is MCV as far as I could make it, and it's ActionScript 3.0, but 
 there will be people out there who will shake their heads at some of 
 the decisions I've made.

 Well, that's what Open Source is all about right, to make something 
 better together...


 So - all this is great, but I haven't got a lot of time. I'm looking 
 for someone who wants to get involved in the PRISM engine, who is 
 willing to work for free to help organise the files, become an 
 admin/moderator on the forum, and to deal with a lot of the initial 
 bulk of administration required to get the engine seen.

 In exchange, this person/small group of people, will have first access

 to all the code, and will be an Approved Developer on the website 
 we're building.

 The engine could be really huge in this never ending wave of casual 
 games interest, so would anyone like to jump in and help?

 Please email me offlist with some examples of your stuff so I can 
 check yo skillz - james at futurlab co uk

 Thanks!


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[Flashcoders] Open Source PRISM Game Engine

2009-03-13 Thread James Marsden

Hey folks,

[ apologies for cross posting ]
 

I've decided to open source a 2D Flash game engine/framework I've been
slaving over for years. 

The engine was previously licensed for use by the BBC on this game:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/run/play.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/run/play.shtml 

It's also responsible for a game demo that helped us make a big
impression on PlayStation a couple of years ago:
http://www.futurlab.co.uk/games/prism/
http://www.futurlab.co.uk/games/prism/ 

- and more recently was used to create this demo:
http://www.futurlab.co.uk/revenge/ http://www.futurlab.co.uk/revenge/
- select 'Play Demo' and then 'Play Scene' for Scene 9.

Here is a list of the features:
http://www.futurlab.co.uk/Prism_Engine.png
http://www.futurlab.co.uk/Prism_Engine.png  - there's also some pretty
advanced enemy A.I that enables enemies to jump around from platform to
platform to chase a player down, which isn't showcased by either demo.


There's no doubt in my mind that the engine is awesome, and lots of
different types of 2D games can be made with it quickly. 



However, the architecture of the engine probably isn't too awesome
because I'm a fine art graduate!

It is MCV as far as I could make it, and it's ActionScript 3.0, but
there will be people out there who will shake their heads at some of the
decisions I've made. 

Well, that's what Open Source is all about right, to make something
better together...


So - all this is great, but I haven't got a lot of time. I'm looking for
someone who wants to get involved in the PRISM engine, who is willing to
work for free to help organise the files, become an admin/moderator on
the forum, and to deal with a lot of the initial bulk of administration
required to get the engine seen.

In exchange, this person/small group of people, will have first access
to all the code, and will be an Approved Developer on the website we're
building.

The engine could be really huge in this never ending wave of casual
games interest, so would anyone like to jump in and help?

Please email me offlist with some examples of your stuff so I can check
yo skillz - james at futurlab co uk

Thanks!


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RE: [Flashcoders] IE7 wont trigger popups locally

2008-04-08 Thread Matthew James Poole

Are you setting allowScriptAccess in the params? 

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Hi People.

I am having trouble with opening popups from Flash, I am using getURL to call a 
javascript-function that should open a popup.

it worked before, and it works in Firefox, but it doesnt work in IE7 when 
trying it locally, but it will work in IE7 if run from a server.

It is an older projekt, published in Flash 6, if I make it to Flash 8 and use 
ExternalInterface to call the javascript - then it do work, but not when 
running it as it is - Flash 6 with getURL - the javascript-function will not be 
reached.

How can this be solved - without digging through an old application and turn it 
to flash 8 and going that way?

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RE: [Flashcoders] pixel-accurate _xmouse tracking?

2008-03-12 Thread Matthew James Poole

Matt, the mouse move event fired at a set rate so the faster you move it
the greater the distance will be until the next event. If you want to
sample faster then you'd have to use a setInterval at something really
small like 10ms and grab the mouse location like that. Even then you
cant guarantee that each event will give you the next pixel. I suggest
you change your logic to suit this behaviour.

Cheers
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Hi,
can anyone recommend a way to have pixel-accurate mouse tracking? If I
move my mouse slowly it pretty much grabs them all, but any fast
movements result in huge gaps in the _xmouse tracking, so instead of
being 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 etc, it'll be
1,4,6,9,12,15,16,23,30,35, etc. I need it it to be as accurate as
possible. Can this be done?

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RE: [Flashcoders] [AS3] Memory leaks unloading

2008-03-12 Thread Matthew James Poole

You can start by using weak references for you events listeners... 

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Hey all,

I'm currently working on a Flash module to sit inside a larger Flash
site being developed by another agency. This module needs to be loaded
and unloaded as needed, and has a fair few library assets, quite
substantial codebase and will be running PV3D or Away3D, so I need to be
very careful about destroying everything when my module is finished
with; the container site is pretty resource-hungry too.

So, my current problem: I've built initialisation and destruction
routines that run on Event.ADDED_TO_STAGE and Event.REMOVED_FROM_STAGE,
and a test loader which loads and removes my module. However, watching
the test loader unload my module in the Flash Player shows no noticeable
drop in memory after my destructors have been called in the module and
$loader.unload() has been called in the test loader, so it seems like a
lot o stuff is gettign stuck in memory.

Basically, my destructors set any class variables which reference
objects to null, which I believe should mark them for garbage
collection, if nothing else points to them? I also do things like
removeChild() and bitmapData.dispose() where relevant.

I've compiled in XRay, which shows what you'd expect: various bits
present on stage while my module is loaded, all gone when it's not.

So I guess my questions are: does anyone know any secret voodoo
techniques to track down memory use in the Flash player? Is there
anything better I can be doing than just setting pointers to null?
Back in the AS2 day, I'd suspect the _global namespace of becoming
cluttered and just try and nuke _global[ package_name ], but dirty hacks
like that don't exist in our shiny new AS3 world, do they?

I'd be grateful if anyone can offer any advice about how to properly
clear up memory after unloading my module. This is my first AS3 project,
and none of my old tricks work :(

Cheers,
Henry
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RE: [Flashcoders] [AS3] Memory leaks unloading

2008-03-12 Thread Matthew James Poole

True, but its sounds like Henry has lots of stuff not marked for GC so
he still has references somewhere, just a case of finding them... Easier
said than done 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allandt
Bik-Elliott (Receptacle)
Sent: 12 March 2008 16:30
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] [AS3] Memory leaks  unloading

as far as i know, there is no way of dumping the garbage manually - you
have to wait for the flash plugin to dump it once it has been marked

you can check chapter 14 of essential actionscript 3.0 (moock) for more
info about that

On 12 Mar 2008, at 15:54, Henry Cooke wrote:

 Hey all,

 I'm currently working on a Flash module to sit inside a larger Flash 
 site being developed by another agency. This module needs to be loaded

 and unloaded as needed, and has a fair few library assets, quite 
 substantial codebase and will be running PV3D or Away3D, so I need to 
 be very careful about destroying everything when my module is finished

 with; the container site is pretty resource-hungry too.

 So, my current problem: I've built initialisation and destruction 
 routines that run on Event.ADDED_TO_STAGE and 
 Event.REMOVED_FROM_STAGE, and a test loader which loads and removes my

 module. However, watching the test loader unload my module in the 
 Flash Player shows no noticeable drop in memory after my destructors 
 have been called in the module and $loader.unload() has been called in

 the test loader, so it seems like a lot o stuff is gettign stuck in 
 memory.

 Basically, my destructors set any class variables which reference 
 objects to null, which I believe should mark them for garbage 
 collection, if nothing else points to them? I also do things like
 removeChild() and bitmapData.dispose() where relevant.

 I've compiled in XRay, which shows what you'd expect: various bits 
 present on stage while my module is loaded, all gone when it's not.

 So I guess my questions are: does anyone know any secret voodoo 
 techniques to track down memory use in the Flash player? Is there 
 anything better I can be doing than just setting pointers to null?
 Back in the AS2 day, I'd suspect the _global namespace of becoming 
 cluttered and just try and nuke _global[ package_name ], but dirty 
 hacks like that don't exist in our shiny new AS3 world, do they?

 I'd be grateful if anyone can offer any advice about how to properly 
 clear up memory after unloading my module. This is my first AS3 
 project, and none of my old tricks work :(

 Cheers,
 Henry
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RE: [Flashcoders] clean scripting

2008-03-11 Thread Matthew James Poole

Actually, I've seen that the values are often set quicker when
initilaised in the contructor rather than against class members , but I
think it looks tidier the way you've done it... imo

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Sent: 11 March 2008 17:41
To: flashcoders
Subject: [Flashcoders] clean scripting

hi

just a semantic question really

when writing your classes, would you only declare variables in the class
and assign variables later or would you assign values straight away if
you had them?

so for instance, would you...:

package com.receptacle.timeline
{
//package imports
import flash.display.Sprite;

internal class Class extends Sprite
{
// class variable declarations
private var cp:CommonProperties = new
CommonProperties();
private var commonY:uint = cp. commonY;
private var commonCopy:String = cp.commonCopy;
private static var title:String = Title;
private static var subtitle:String = Subtitle;

public function Class()
{
myFunc1();
}

private function myFunc1()
{
trace (function ran);
trace (commonY is +commonY);
trace (commonCopy is +commonCopy);
trace (title is +title);
trace (subtitle is +subtitle);
}
}
}

which works fine but is a little messy at the class level

or would you...:

package com.receptacle.timeline
{
//package imports
import flash.display.Sprite;

internal class Class extends Sprite
{
// class variable declarations
private var cp:CommonProperties;
private var commonY:uint;
private var commonCopy:String
private static var title:String
private static var subtitle:String ;

public function Class()
{
setVars();
myFunc1();
}

private function setVars()
{
cp =  new CommonProperties();
commonY = cp. commonY;
commonCopy = cp.commonCopy;
title = Title;
subtitle = Subtitle;
}

private function myFunc1()
{
trace (function ran);
trace (commonY is +commonY);
trace (commonCopy is +commonCopy);
trace (title is +title);
trace (subtitle is +subtitle);
}
}
}

which seems cleaner but is more round the houses.

thanks in advance
a

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RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 Function question

2008-02-07 Thread Matthew James Poole

Yep that's exactly how to do it... 

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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 Function question

Hi,

maybe is possible solution via ...(rest) parameter?

function methodName (...argumentsArray) { }

Example:

public function addArticle(name, ...attribs) { }

And method invocation:

addArticle(article_1, argument_2, argument_3, argument_4);

Pavel

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Subject: [Flashcoders] AS3 Function question

Hi list,

I have a function in  AS3, and it takes two arguments, but sometimes i
want it to have 1 argument. But when i run it now it errors:
1136: Incorrect number of arguments.  Expected 2.
How do i do this? keep one arguments standard in the function brackets
and check for the second argument with the arguments array like in AS2?

Help would be advised,

Thanks,

Sidney

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RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 Function question

2008-02-07 Thread Matthew James Poole

True, but with the rest argument you can have as many args as you
want... 

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Hayes
Sent: 07 February 2008 12:11
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 Function question

I normally just set a default value for the second argument :

function someFunction(arg1:int,arg2:String=null):void
{
if(arg2==null)
{
//whatever.
}
//some code ...
}

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de Koning
Sent: 07 February 2008 11:45
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Subject: [Flashcoders] AS3 Function question

Hi list,

I have a function in  AS3, and it takes two arguments, but sometimes i
want it to have 1 argument. But when i run it now it errors:
1136: Incorrect number of arguments.  Expected 2.
How do i do this? keep one arguments standard in the function brackets
and check for the second argument with the arguments array like in AS2?

Help would be advised,

Thanks,

Sidney

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RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 Function question

2008-02-07 Thread Matthew James Poole

Better to do this if you want to ensure Type too... 

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de Koning
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this works for me, since i only need either 1 or 2 arguments, never
more.

Thanks for all the examples guys,

Sid

Matthew James Poole wrote:
 True, but with the rest argument you can have as many args as you 
 want...

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 Hayes
 Sent: 07 February 2008 12:11
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 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] AS3 Function question

 I normally just set a default value for the second argument :

 function someFunction(arg1:int,arg2:String=null):void
 {
   if(arg2==null)
   {
   //whatever.
   }
   //some code ...
 }

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 de Koning
 Sent: 07 February 2008 11:45
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: [Flashcoders] AS3 Function question

 Hi list,

 I have a function in  AS3, and it takes two arguments, but sometimes i

 want it to have 1 argument. But when i run it now it errors:
 1136: Incorrect number of arguments.  Expected 2.
 How do i do this? keep one arguments standard in the function brackets

 and check for the second argument with the arguments array like in
AS2?

 Help would be advised,

 Thanks,

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RE: [Flashcoders] OldSchool buttons w/NewSchool AS

2008-01-28 Thread Matthew James Poole

A number of companies I've worked for have had solutions for this along
a similar vein.

Basically you have labeled states in a MovieClip and that MovieClip has
a AS class linkage and you have code that manages the states. It does
mean that the desingers have to remember to use the class linkage, but
I've never found a problem explaining that to them - just a small
learning curve on their part.

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Old school (4-frame) buttons are so nice because they give designers
direct access to the look of the button in each of four states, but as a
programmer they've always driven me nuts.  I want to use AS to control
the buttons.  I want a set of templates that determine what the body of
the button looks like and the ability to dynamically set the text and/or
graphical content inside the border of the button.  While I can think
of a few ways to do this, I don't want to reinvent the wheel and I'm
looking for some friendly wisdom.  I see the world through the eyes of a
programmer, and I've been a soloist for a very, very long time.  New
opportunities call for me to lead and direct artists, and to provide a
framework that won't hinder their creativity.
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RE: [Flashcoders] MultiLanguage

You can use simsun ttf for rendering chinese glyfs 

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It's essential that you use a Unicode font--I use Arial Unicode for 
Asian
languages, because it has all the languages I typically need. Embed the
font, of course.

Gotcha. This is fairly new to me so I've been reading as much as I can.
I found that true type fonts, like regular Arial, adhere to Unicode
standards. 
In Flash, if I use Arial I can embed Korean (Hangul), and a few
different Chinese glyphs. However, I cannot see the incoming UTF-8
encoded chinese text from my XML. Russian and all my other languages are
working fine. But I get squares when trying to display Chinese or
Korean, even though the glyphs are embedded for both. Hmmm... do I need
a different font (Arial 'Unicode') or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks much.

Dave -
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RE: [Flashcoders] AIR Sandbox while loading sounds

I think what it was basically saying is that same domain socket servers
need to have policy files now, where before they didn't. So really if
you have a policy file you should be ok. 

With the port nunber, what it was saying is that if you have a policy
file on a server that listens on ports above 1024 the policy file is
only valid for connections coming in to ports above that 1024. So in
this case connections made for that ports 1024 and below are no longer
considered secure. So this shouldn't effect you so long as you have a
policy file and you continue to make connections above port 1024 (I
assume you are only connecting to port 8080)

Regarding streaming audio, I'd have to have a test (which would be in
flex) so Im not sure I can help you - remind me to down load the CS3 Air
extention!

Is that radio URL availble to everyone? i.e. could I test (though it
would have to be at home - work are pretty strict about portts)

Cheers
Matt


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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de Koning
Sent: 24 January 2008 10:54
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AIR Sandbox while loading sounds

He Matt,

Ofcourse they changed it :)
Still does not work; this is inside my policy file:
cross-domain-policy
site-control permitted-cross-domain-policies=all/
/cross-domain-policy

Cant find in the doc if i need to specify the port, since it is above
1024? And does '|to-ports' |work on normal connections aswell as only
XML Socket connection?

Been trying everything and notthing seems to work, is there anything
specific to AIR and loading sounds?

Cheers,
Sid


Matthew James Poole wrote:
 Hey sid,

 There are new security rules for build 115 (update 3) of FP9: 


http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/fplayer9_security.ht.m
 l

 Bit of a long read, but it may help you... Though if you;ve got the 
 poilcy file it ought to be ok

 Cheers
 Matt



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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 de Koning
 Sent: 24 January 2008 10:09
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: [Flashcoders] AIR Sandbox while loading sounds

 Hi List,

 I'm trying to load a sound stream into my air application, it is a 
 radio stream bound to a port (ie: http://radio.example.com:8000/).
 When publishing to flash 9, it works smooth as silk, but when 
 publishing to AIR i get errors (I work work with the Flash IDE):

 *** Security Sandbox Violation ***
 SecurityDomain 'app:/soundRadio.swf' tried to access incompatible 
 context 'http://adobe.com/apollo'

 However everytime i load a stream it throws me a security error. How 
 do i get past this, and make it work in a good manner?
 And i have done all the usual stuff like, set up a crossdomain file, 
 and i make use of the SoundLoaderContext.

 Help is advised!

 Cheers,

 Sid


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RE: [Flashcoders] AIR Sandbox while loading sounds

Your policy file looks good, heres something you could try to see if
there is a problem with the policy file:

Find this file 'mm.cfg' here :

C:\Documents and Settings\{username}

And add to it these lines:

PolicyFileLog=1   # Enables policy file logging
PolicyFileLogAppend=1  # Optional; do not clear log at startup

Then when you test a swf have a look here:

C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash
Player\Logs

For a file called 'policyfiles.txt'. It logs info about policy files
that have been loaded, so that will confirm whether or not your file is
ok.

Cheers
Matt

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney
de Koning
Sent: 24 January 2008 12:42
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AIR Sandbox while loading sounds

Download the CS3 Air extension :)

Code is pasted below, this works in AS3, but not in AIR.
The radio stream sits on port 8000 (shoutcast). But its not a socket
connection im making just a http call.

the stream i want to use is a different url than below, but that real
domain does had a crossdomain.xml (with the new policies) I hope i have
the syntax right for the new c.d file, if its wrong, please correct me:

cross-domain-policy
allow-access-from domain=* to-ports=8000/ /cross-domain-policy



// Sandbox error in AIR, AS3 publish works fine, grmbl AIR!
// http://livedocs.adobe.com/labs/flex3/html/Working_with_Sound_11.html
var lounge   = new URLRequest(http://207.200.96.226:8000;);

var context:SoundLoaderContext = new SoundLoaderContext(100, true); var
s:Sound = new Sound(); s = new Sound(lounge, context);
trace(lounge.url); var sc:SoundChannel = s.play();
s.addEventListener(IOErrorEvent.IO_ERROR, errorHandler);

stop_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.MOUSE_DOWN, stopStream);

function errorHandler(errorEvent:IOErrorEvent):void {trace(The 
sound could not be loaded:  + errorEvent.text);} function
stopStream(evtObj:MouseEvent) { s.close(); }


Cheers Sid

Matthew James Poole wrote:
 I think what it was basically saying is that same domain socket 
 servers need to have policy files now, where before they didn't. So 
 really if you have a policy file you should be ok.

 With the port nunber, what it was saying is that if you have a policy 
 file on a server that listens on ports above 1024 the policy file is 
 only valid for connections coming in to ports above that 1024. So in 
 this case connections made for that ports 1024 and below are no longer

 considered secure. So this shouldn't effect you so long as you have a 
 policy file and you continue to make connections above port 1024 (I 
 assume you are only connecting to port 8080)

 Regarding streaming audio, I'd have to have a test (which would be in
 flex) so Im not sure I can help you - remind me to down load the CS3 
 Air extention!

 Is that radio URL availble to everyone? i.e. could I test (though it 
 would have to be at home - work are pretty strict about portts)

 Cheers
 Matt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney

 de Koning
 Sent: 24 January 2008 10:54
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AIR Sandbox while loading sounds

 He Matt,

 Ofcourse they changed it :)
 Still does not work; this is inside my policy file:
 cross-domain-policy
 site-control permitted-cross-domain-policies=all/
 /cross-domain-policy

 Cant find in the doc if i need to specify the port, since it is above 
 1024? And does '|to-ports' |work on normal connections aswell as only 
 XML Socket connection?

 Been trying everything and notthing seems to work, is there anything 
 specific to AIR and loading sounds?

 Cheers,
 Sid


 Matthew James Poole wrote:
   
 Hey sid,

 There are new security rules for build 115 (update 3) of FP9: 


 
 http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/fplayer9_security.ht.
 m
   
 l

 Bit of a long read, but it may help you... Though if you;ve got the 
 poilcy file it ought to be ok

 Cheers
 Matt



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Sidney
 

   
 de Koning
 Sent: 24 January 2008 10:09
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: [Flashcoders] AIR Sandbox while loading sounds

 Hi List,

 I'm trying to load a sound stream into my air application, it is a 
 radio stream bound to a port (ie: http://radio.example.com:8000/).
 When publishing to flash 9, it works smooth as silk, but when 
 publishing to AIR i get errors (I work work with the Flash IDE):

 *** Security Sandbox Violation ***
 SecurityDomain 'app:/soundRadio.swf' tried to access incompatible 
 context 'http://adobe.com/apollo'

 However everytime i load a stream it throws me a security error. How 
 do i get past this, and make it work in a good manner?
 And i have done all the usual stuff like, set up a crossdomain file, 
 and i make use of the SoundLoaderContext.

 Help is advised!

 Cheers,

 Sid

RE: [Flashcoders] MultiLanguage

One solution would be to avoid embeding the chinese fonts if you could -
depends on what you want for your project

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Mennenoh
Sent: 24 January 2008 13:36
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] MultiLanguage

Thanks much for the great advice. I'm getting there... However, soon as
I include the Chinese glyphs my swf gets to near 5MB. Is there an easy
way to embed only the chinese glyphs in a separate swf and load them
only if needed? AS2...  With Cryllic, Hangul, and everything else I get
a respectable 300K, but the chinese adds too much to just leave it in.

Dave -
Head Developer
http://www.blurredistinction.com
Adobe Community Expert
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RE: [Flashcoders] MultiLanguage

Check the viewed language and turn embedding on/off depending on whether
its chinese?

 - you'd only see the chinese if you had the right font installed (e.g.
simsun) but I believe this is the case on chinese machines. If course if
your text was masked or animated then this wont work as dynamic text has
to be embeded in these circumstances

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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] MultiLanguage

One solution would be to avoid embeding the chinese fonts if you could

-
depends on what you want for your project

Except I am embedding, so I can anti-alias. I'm not sure how I could
embed all the other glyphs and have the chinese still render at all.

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RE: [Flashcoders] AIR Sandbox while loading sounds

Just create the mm.cfg file if it doesnt exist, 

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de Koning
Sent: 24 January 2008 16:13
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AIR Sandbox while loading sounds

No such files here, tried looking for it but no luck.

Still cant find the bug i was looking for, maybee tomorrow. Any other
sugestions i can try?

cheers, Sid

Matthew James Poole wrote:
 Your policy file looks good, heres something you could try to see if 
 there is a problem with the policy file:

 Find this file 'mm.cfg' here :

 C:\Documents and Settings\{username}

 And add to it these lines:

 PolicyFileLog=1   # Enables policy file logging
 PolicyFileLogAppend=1  # Optional; do not clear log at startup

 Then when you test a swf have a look here:

 C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash

 Player\Logs

 For a file called 'policyfiles.txt'. It logs info about policy files 
 that have been loaded, so that will confirm whether or not your file 
 is ok.

 Cheers
 Matt

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney

 de Koning
 Sent: 24 January 2008 12:42
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AIR Sandbox while loading sounds

 Download the CS3 Air extension :)

 Code is pasted below, this works in AS3, but not in AIR.
 The radio stream sits on port 8000 (shoutcast). But its not a socket 
 connection im making just a http call.

 the stream i want to use is a different url than below, but that real 
 domain does had a crossdomain.xml (with the new policies) I hope i 
 have the syntax right for the new c.d file, if its wrong, please
correct me:

 cross-domain-policy
 allow-access-from domain=* to-ports=8000/ /cross-domain-policy

 // Sandbox error in AIR, AS3 publish works fine, grmbl AIR!
 //
http://livedocs.adobe.com/labs/flex3/html/Working_with_Sound_11.html
 var lounge   = new URLRequest(http://207.200.96.226:8000;);

 var context:SoundLoaderContext = new SoundLoaderContext(100, true); 
 var s:Sound = new Sound(); s = new Sound(lounge, context); 
 trace(lounge.url); var sc:SoundChannel = s.play(); 
 s.addEventListener(IOErrorEvent.IO_ERROR, errorHandler);

 stop_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.MOUSE_DOWN, stopStream);

 function errorHandler(errorEvent:IOErrorEvent):void {trace(The 
 sound could not be loaded:  + errorEvent.text);} function
 stopStream(evtObj:MouseEvent) { s.close(); }

 Cheers Sid

 Matthew James Poole wrote:

 I think what it was basically saying is that same domain socket 
 servers need to have policy files now, where before they didn't. So 
 really if you have a policy file you should be ok.

 With the port nunber, what it was saying is that if you have a policy

 file on a server that listens on ports above 1024 the policy file is 
 only valid for connections coming in to ports above that 1024. So in 
 this case connections made for that ports 1024 and below are no 
 longer

 considered secure. So this shouldn't effect you so long as you have a

 policy file and you continue to make connections above port 1024 (I 
 assume you are only connecting to port 8080)

 Regarding streaming audio, I'd have to have a test (which would be in
 flex) so Im not sure I can help you - remind me to down load the CS3 
 Air extention!

 Is that radio URL availble to everyone? i.e. could I test (though it 
 would have to be at home - work are pretty strict about portts)

 Cheers
 Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Sidney

 de Koning
 Sent: 24 January 2008 10:54
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AIR Sandbox while loading sounds

 He Matt,

 Ofcourse they changed it :)
 Still does not work; this is inside my policy file:
 cross-domain-policy
 site-control permitted-cross-domain-policies=all/
 /cross-domain-policy

 Cant find in the doc if i need to specify the port, since it is above

 1024? And does '|to-ports' |work on normal connections aswell as only

 XML Socket connection?

 Been trying everything and notthing seems to work, is there anything 
 specific to AIR and loading sounds?

 Cheers,
 Sid

 Matthew James Poole wrote:

 Hey sid,

 There are new security rules for build 115 (update 3) of FP9: 

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/fplayer9_security.ht.
 m

 l

 Bit of a long read, but it may help you... Though if you;ve got the 
 poilcy file it ought to be ok

 Cheers
 Matt

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Sidney

 de Koning
 Sent: 24 January 2008 10:09
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: [Flashcoders] AIR Sandbox while loading sounds

 Hi List,

 I'm trying to load a sound stream into my air application, it is a 
 radio stream bound to a port (ie: http://radio.example.com:8000/).
 When

RE: [Flashcoders] [AS2] bitmapdata from external loaded swf

2008-01-22 Thread Matthew James Poole

You're not lonely then - :P 

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Wichman
Sent: 22 January 2008 11:06
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] [AS2] bitmapdata from external loaded swf

http://www.mail-archive.com/flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com/msg37404.h
tml

:)

On Jan 22, 2008 8:54 AM, Latcho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi list,

 Playin with setup strategies, my major hassle was a shared library.
 When I load library.swf in main.swf with MCloader, i noticed there was

 no way of doing a loadBitmap from within main.swf to get to the 
 bitmap-data of the linked bitmap in the library.swf An experiment 
 followed:

 I put this in the root of library.swf and recompiled:
 *_Library.swf

 _*import flash.display.BitmapData;
 Object.prototype.libload=function (_lnk){
var b:BitmapData;
b=BitmapData.loadBitmap(_lnk);
return b;
 }
 ASSetPropFlags(Object.prototype, libload, 7)

 _
 *Main.swf:*_
 //after the library was loaded !
 var _bmp:BitmapData=libload(librarylink)
 trace(checkwidth:+_bmp.width)

 To my amazement this traces the actual width of the library linked 
 bitmap !
 I can even attach the bmp it to an clip in main.swf

 Now I have some questions:

 If above is the case, that you can't use a loadbitmap() to get to a 
 library-asset of a (loaded) external swf, then why is it that this 
 works ? And then why in the first place was this functionallity not 
 implemented in the flash 8 api ?
 Are there cleaner ways or is this a lonely invention?

 Regards,
 Latcho

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RE: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew James Poole

Im on XP at work / Vista at home and don't get the border, so that's a
bit weird. 

Ah, NativeWindow.bounds, that looks like just the thing - includes any
system chrome (visible or not). Lots of handy events with it too by the
looks. Yeah, let me know how it goes - good luck.

Cheers
Matt

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de Koning
Sent: 18 January 2008 18:27
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

I'm using XP, i have noticed that on Vista it doesn't do it, on mac it
is also a bit weird.
I think i have found something, namely NativeWindowBounds, i'll let you
know about my findings

Sid

Matthew James Poole wrote:
 Ah I see.

 Oddly I don't actually get that border when dragging the employees 
 app, which OS are you using?

 ... You could always ensure that your main NativeWindow is always 
 maximised and other 'windows' inside are just MovieClips, but that's a

 bit hacky

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 de Koning
 Sent: 18 January 2008 10:45
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

 Hi Matthew,

 I have placed the screenshots online at: 
 http://www.funky-monkey.nl/flashcoders/
 The border you see, is the border that appears when i drag the app. I 
 have placed the EmployeeDirectory also in the screenshot so you can 
 see the difference.

 Hope this makes it more clear,

 Cheers,

 Sidney



 Matthew James Poole wrote:
   
 Screen shots would be good please mate - I don't seem to get any 
 problem with the sample AIR, I'm probably still misunderstanding the 
 issue though ;)

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 Sidney
 

   
 de Koning
 Sent: 17 January 2008 10:52
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

 Well, kindof, if you install that EmployeeDirectory app, you see that

 when you drag, the size of the window is only as big as the content, 
 and then your operating system displays an border for how big the app

 is(only if you dragg it). when the app is folded out (when you press 
 the little i button) and you start dragging you see that the border 
 when you drag it, is again just as big as the app.
 What happends with my app is that that border always stays the same, 
 the size of my canvas i specify in the Flash IDE, and cannot make it 
 any smaller. The bounds of my app will never confine to my content 
 but
 

   
 only to my canvas. I want my bounds to be smaller accourding to the 
 state of my app. Does that make any sense to you?

 If not clear, i can make some screenshots and place on my website if 
 that helps,

 Thanks,

 Sid

 Matthew James Poole wrote:
   
 
 ...Ok, I think I see what you mean. NativeWindows are always 
 rectangular
 - The OS doesn't allow anything other than this. So the dimentions 
 of
   

   
 the NativeWindow will always be bigger than the size of the content 
 if
 
   
   
 
 it isnt rectangular in appearance.

 The work around for this is to not to set your drag on the 
 containing
   

   
 NativeWindow, but put it on your next container inside that... Does 
 that answer your question?

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 Sidney
 
   
   
 
 de Koning
 Sent: 17 January 2008 10:01
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

 Hi Matthew,

 Thanks for the answers; like i said:

 The problem that i dont want is that when my app unfolds, my 
 'appllication canvas' is actully bigger that what the user sees. 
 When
   

   
 you dragg the app i want the draggeble area to be confined to the 
 size
 
   
   
 
 of the current state of my application). When your current state is 
 smaller than your canvas, you still see the border.

 For instance when you look at the EmployeeDirectory app, on 
 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/air/samples/ and when it folds 
 open
 
   
   
 
 the 'canvas' is also stretched, and when you drag it, the borrder is

 only confined to the current state of the app.

 Can you tell me how this can be realized?

 Cheers, Sidney



 Matthew James Poole wrote:
   
 
   
 Hi Sid,

 1. NativeWindow's have height and width properties, so you should 
 be
 

   
 able just to set these directly 2. A NativeWindow is just that - an

 OS
 
   
 
   
 
   
 native windo - so at best you can have a MC in a NativeWindow 3. 
 see
 2
 
   
 
   
 
   
 - a NativeWindow can have many MC's inside it...
 4. Not really, though if it was the same size it would appear to be

 masked (assuming the top one was visible) 5. Yes just set the width

 and height, x and y properties onEnterFrame

 Cheers
 Matt

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RE: [Flashcoders] MultiLanguage

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew James Poole

Failing all that just code your own buttons using scale-9 so they can
stretch to fit the text...

... If that seems like hard work, maybe the project should be done in
Flex which has a localisation API and a framework specifically designed
to handle this sort of dynamically changing interface 

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I Sioux
Sent: 21 January 2008 13:36
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I agree with Glen on the stringpanel part.
I've done a big project in the past with multilanguage games..
stringpanel is a good start.. although if you want to give the user the
possibility to select the language at runtime you had to code that
yourself into the panel.. (that was made back in flash 7 though.. might
be in there right now) ..

Translating it on forhand isn't always an option.. somtimes the product
gets popular and a new country/language is added..
The way we did it is to keep space for larger languages in the design..
and if it isn't possible to translate it shorter.. it will always be a
pain in the @ss.. but there should be a balance to keep the
designer/design happy and the translations/translators good..

We made an extra panel to add character sets to all textfields on the
press of a button.. this way it is easier to add a new character set.

Hope this helps..

With kind regards,

Dennis
Isioux

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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] MultiLanguage


 Hi,

Look at using the Strings Panel - it's in FL8, probably in CS3.
This 
 lets you attach an ID to all your text fields, etc. and define
languages 
 in XML.  The help has more in depth stuff about this, but that is a
good 
 start.

You may also want to ensure all your translation is done before the

 designer starts, otherwise they might start getting stressed when you
ask 
 them to resize a button for German, etc.

Glen

 Geografiek wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 I would ask the designer to put all the text in dynamic textFields
(and 
 fill them w3ith dummy text).
 You can than adress these TextFields and fill them with text from a 
 database at runtime, depending on a 'language' flag.
 HTH,
 Willem van den Goorbergh

 Op 21-jan-2008, om 13:26 heeft Dave Mennenoh het volgende geschreven:

 I may be doing an app that has to be deployed in various languages,
and 
 I'm trying to find a good method of doing it. I guess my main issue
is 
 that the interface is Flash, and would be created by a designer.
Content 
 is pretty much all external, but things like button text, tool tip
text, 
 etc. are put in place by the designer.

 I'd thought of just making different interface 'shells' for the
various 
 languages, but that'd be more difficult to maintain. What'd be
perfect 
 is language plugins but then I'm not quite sure on how to handle
sizing 
 problems - especially with certain languages like chinese.

 Just looking for some guidance.


 Dave -
 Head Developer
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RE: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

2008-01-18 Thread Matthew James Poole

Ah I see.

Oddly I don't actually get that border when dragging the employees app,
which OS are you using?

... You could always ensure that your main NativeWindow is always
maximised and other 'windows' inside are just MovieClips, but that's a
bit hacky

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de Koning
Sent: 18 January 2008 10:45
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

Hi Matthew,

I have placed the screenshots online at: 
http://www.funky-monkey.nl/flashcoders/
The border you see, is the border that appears when i drag the app. I
have placed the EmployeeDirectory also in the screenshot so you can see
the difference.

Hope this makes it more clear,

Cheers,

Sidney



Matthew James Poole wrote:
 Screen shots would be good please mate - I don't seem to get any 
 problem with the sample AIR, I'm probably still misunderstanding the 
 issue though ;)

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 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

 Well, kindof, if you install that EmployeeDirectory app, you see that 
 when you drag, the size of the window is only as big as the content, 
 and then your operating system displays an border for how big the app 
 is(only if you dragg it). when the app is folded out (when you press 
 the little i button) and you start dragging you see that the border 
 when you drag it, is again just as big as the app.
 What happends with my app is that that border always stays the same, 
 the size of my canvas i specify in the Flash IDE, and cannot make it 
 any smaller. The bounds of my app will never confine to my content but

 only to my canvas. I want my bounds to be smaller accourding to the 
 state of my app. Does that make any sense to you?

 If not clear, i can make some screenshots and place on my website if 
 that helps,

 Thanks,

 Sid

 Matthew James Poole wrote:
   
 ...Ok, I think I see what you mean. NativeWindows are always 
 rectangular
 - The OS doesn't allow anything other than this. So the dimentions of

 the NativeWindow will always be bigger than the size of the content 
 if
 

   
 it isnt rectangular in appearance.

 The work around for this is to not to set your drag on the containing

 NativeWindow, but put it on your next container inside that... Does 
 that answer your question?

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 Sidney
 

   
 de Koning
 Sent: 17 January 2008 10:01
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

 Hi Matthew,

 Thanks for the answers; like i said:

 The problem that i dont want is that when my app unfolds, my 
 'appllication canvas' is actully bigger that what the user sees. When

 you dragg the app i want the draggeble area to be confined to the 
 size
 

   
 of the current state of my application). When your current state is 
 smaller than your canvas, you still see the border.

 For instance when you look at the EmployeeDirectory app, on 
 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/air/samples/ and when it folds 
 open
 

   
 the 'canvas' is also stretched, and when you drag it, the borrder is 
 only confined to the current state of the app.

 Can you tell me how this can be realized?

 Cheers, Sidney



 Matthew James Poole wrote:
   
 
 Hi Sid,

 1. NativeWindow's have height and width properties, so you should be

 able just to set these directly 2. A NativeWindow is just that - an 
 OS
 
   
   
 
 native windo - so at best you can have a MC in a NativeWindow 3. see
 2
 
   
   
 
 - a NativeWindow can have many MC's inside it...
 4. Not really, though if it was the same size it would appear to be 
 masked (assuming the top one was visible) 5. Yes just set the width 
 and height, x and y properties onEnterFrame

 Cheers
 Matt

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 Sidney
 
   
   
 
 de Koning
 Sent: 17 January 2008 09:16
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

 Hi List,

 Couple of questions about AIR and NativeWindows.
 - How do i set the width and height of an NativeWindow? Can i do 
 that
   

   
 in the code or only in the descriptor file?
 - Can a NativeWindow also be an MovieClip (living in the library 
 with
 linkage) and how do i set this?
 - Can a NativeWindow be composed of multiple movieclips?
 - Can a NativeWindow be masked with another NativeWindow (to create 
 a
   

   
 sliding panel below the other NW)
 - Is it possible to animate an NativeWindow (using third party 
 classes
 
   
   
 
 like Tweener)

 What i would like to accomplish is this: The AIR app launches in a 
 certain width and height but when i click a button, the app unfolds 
 to
 
   
   
 
 a bigger version

RE: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

Hi Sid,

1. NativeWindow's have height and width properties, so you should be
able just to set these directly 
2. A NativeWindow is just that - an OS native windo - so at best you can
have a MC in a NativeWindow
3. see 2 - a NativeWindow can have many MC's inside it...
4. Not really, though if it was the same size it would appear to be
masked (assuming the top one was visible)
5. Yes just set the width and height, x and y properties onEnterFrame

Cheers
Matt

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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de Koning
Sent: 17 January 2008 09:16
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Subject: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

Hi List,

Couple of questions about AIR and NativeWindows.
- How do i set the width and height of an NativeWindow? Can i do that in
the code or only in the descriptor file?
- Can a NativeWindow also be an MovieClip (living in the library with
linkage) and how do i set this?
- Can a NativeWindow be composed of multiple movieclips?
- Can a NativeWindow be masked with another NativeWindow (to create a
sliding panel below the other NW)
- Is it possible to animate an NativeWindow (using third party classes
like Tweener)

What i would like to accomplish is this: The AIR app launches in a
certain width and height but when i click a button, the app unfolds to a
bigger version with the content, can i, at certain times set the size of
my NativeWindow bigger?
(The problem that i dont want is that when my app unfolds, my
'appllication canvas' is actuly bigger that what the user sees. When you
dragg the app i want the draggeble area to be confined to the size of
the current stat of my application)

Help is appreciated :)

Cheers,

Sidney
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RE: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

...Ok, I think I see what you mean. NativeWindows are always rectangular
- The OS doesn't allow anything other than this. So the dimentions of
the NativeWindow will always be bigger than the size of the content if
it isnt rectangular in appearance. 

The work around for this is to not to set your drag on the containing
NativeWindow, but put it on your next container inside that... Does that
answer your question?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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de Koning
Sent: 17 January 2008 10:01
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

Hi Matthew,

Thanks for the answers; like i said:

The problem that i dont want is that when my app unfolds, my
'appllication canvas' is actully bigger that what the user sees. When
you dragg the app i want the draggeble area to be confined to the size
of the current state of my application). When your current state is
smaller than your canvas, you still see the border.

For instance when you look at the EmployeeDirectory app, on
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/air/samples/ and when it folds open
the 'canvas' is also stretched, and when you drag it, the borrder is
only confined to the current state of the app.

Can you tell me how this can be realized?

Cheers, Sidney



Matthew James Poole wrote:
 Hi Sid,

 1. NativeWindow's have height and width properties, so you should be 
 able just to set these directly 2. A NativeWindow is just that - an OS

 native windo - so at best you can have a MC in a NativeWindow 3. see 2

 - a NativeWindow can have many MC's inside it...
 4. Not really, though if it was the same size it would appear to be 
 masked (assuming the top one was visible) 5. Yes just set the width 
 and height, x and y properties onEnterFrame

 Cheers
 Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney

 de Koning
 Sent: 17 January 2008 09:16
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

 Hi List,

 Couple of questions about AIR and NativeWindows.
 - How do i set the width and height of an NativeWindow? Can i do that 
 in the code or only in the descriptor file?
 - Can a NativeWindow also be an MovieClip (living in the library with
 linkage) and how do i set this?
 - Can a NativeWindow be composed of multiple movieclips?
 - Can a NativeWindow be masked with another NativeWindow (to create a 
 sliding panel below the other NW)
 - Is it possible to animate an NativeWindow (using third party classes

 like Tweener)

 What i would like to accomplish is this: The AIR app launches in a 
 certain width and height but when i click a button, the app unfolds to

 a bigger version with the content, can i, at certain times set the 
 size of my NativeWindow bigger?
 (The problem that i dont want is that when my app unfolds, my 
 'appllication canvas' is actuly bigger that what the user sees. When 
 you dragg the app i want the draggeble area to be confined to the size

 of the current stat of my application)

 Help is appreciated :)

 Cheers,

 Sidney
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RE: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

I don't think I understand what the problem you having is. Are you
saying the not visible areas of your app are draggable? Because I have
apps that have differing shapes and sizes whose windows active area is
confined only to what is visible...

Can you explain your problem a bit more?

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de Koning
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

Hi Matthew,

Thanks for the answers; like i said:

The problem that i dont want is that when my app unfolds, my
'appllication canvas' is actully bigger that what the user sees. When
you dragg the app i want the draggeble area to be confined to the size
of the current state of my application). When your current state is
smaller than your canvas, you still see the border.

For instance when you look at the EmployeeDirectory app, on
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/air/samples/ and when it folds open
the 'canvas' is also stretched, and when you drag it, the borrder is
only confined to the current state of the app.

Can you tell me how this can be realized?

Cheers, Sidney



Matthew James Poole wrote:
 Hi Sid,

 1. NativeWindow's have height and width properties, so you should be 
 able just to set these directly 2. A NativeWindow is just that - an OS

 native windo - so at best you can have a MC in a NativeWindow 3. see 2

 - a NativeWindow can have many MC's inside it...
 4. Not really, though if it was the same size it would appear to be 
 masked (assuming the top one was visible) 5. Yes just set the width 
 and height, x and y properties onEnterFrame

 Cheers
 Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney

 de Koning
 Sent: 17 January 2008 09:16
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

 Hi List,

 Couple of questions about AIR and NativeWindows.
 - How do i set the width and height of an NativeWindow? Can i do that 
 in the code or only in the descriptor file?
 - Can a NativeWindow also be an MovieClip (living in the library with
 linkage) and how do i set this?
 - Can a NativeWindow be composed of multiple movieclips?
 - Can a NativeWindow be masked with another NativeWindow (to create a 
 sliding panel below the other NW)
 - Is it possible to animate an NativeWindow (using third party classes

 like Tweener)

 What i would like to accomplish is this: The AIR app launches in a 
 certain width and height but when i click a button, the app unfolds to

 a bigger version with the content, can i, at certain times set the 
 size of my NativeWindow bigger?
 (The problem that i dont want is that when my app unfolds, my 
 'appllication canvas' is actuly bigger that what the user sees. When 
 you dragg the app i want the draggeble area to be confined to the size

 of the current stat of my application)

 Help is appreciated :)

 Cheers,

 Sidney
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RE: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

Screen shots would be good please mate - I don't seem to get any problem
with the sample AIR, I'm probably still misunderstanding the issue
though ;) 

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de Koning
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

Well, kindof, if you install that EmployeeDirectory app, you see that
when you drag, the size of the window is only as big as the content, and
then your operating system displays an border for how big the app
is(only if you dragg it). when the app is folded out (when you press the
little i button) and you start dragging you see that the border when you
drag it, is again just as big as the app.
What happends with my app is that that border always stays the same, the
size of my canvas i specify in the Flash IDE, and cannot make it any
smaller. The bounds of my app will never confine to my content but only
to my canvas. I want my bounds to be smaller accourding to the state of
my app. Does that make any sense to you?

If not clear, i can make some screenshots and place on my website if
that helps,

Thanks,

Sid

Matthew James Poole wrote:
 ...Ok, I think I see what you mean. NativeWindows are always 
 rectangular
 - The OS doesn't allow anything other than this. So the dimentions of 
 the NativeWindow will always be bigger than the size of the content if

 it isnt rectangular in appearance.

 The work around for this is to not to set your drag on the containing 
 NativeWindow, but put it on your next container inside that... Does 
 that answer your question?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney

 de Koning
 Sent: 17 January 2008 10:01
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

 Hi Matthew,

 Thanks for the answers; like i said:

 The problem that i dont want is that when my app unfolds, my 
 'appllication canvas' is actully bigger that what the user sees. When 
 you dragg the app i want the draggeble area to be confined to the size

 of the current state of my application). When your current state is 
 smaller than your canvas, you still see the border.

 For instance when you look at the EmployeeDirectory app, on 
 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/air/samples/ and when it folds open

 the 'canvas' is also stretched, and when you drag it, the borrder is 
 only confined to the current state of the app.

 Can you tell me how this can be realized?

 Cheers, Sidney

 Matthew James Poole wrote:

 Hi Sid,

 1. NativeWindow's have height and width properties, so you should be 
 able just to set these directly 2. A NativeWindow is just that - an 
 OS

 native windo - so at best you can have a MC in a NativeWindow 3. see 
 2

 - a NativeWindow can have many MC's inside it...
 4. Not really, though if it was the same size it would appear to be 
 masked (assuming the top one was visible) 5. Yes just set the width 
 and height, x and y properties onEnterFrame

 Cheers
 Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Sidney

 de Koning
 Sent: 17 January 2008 09:16
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Windowing in AIR

 Hi List,

 Couple of questions about AIR and NativeWindows.
 - How do i set the width and height of an NativeWindow? Can i do that

 in the code or only in the descriptor file?
 - Can a NativeWindow also be an MovieClip (living in the library with
 linkage) and how do i set this?
 - Can a NativeWindow be composed of multiple movieclips?
 - Can a NativeWindow be masked with another NativeWindow (to create a

 sliding panel below the other NW)
 - Is it possible to animate an NativeWindow (using third party 
 classes

 like Tweener)

 What i would like to accomplish is this: The AIR app launches in a 
 certain width and height but when i click a button, the app unfolds 
 to

 a bigger version with the content, can i, at certain times set the 
 size of my NativeWindow bigger?
 (The problem that i dont want is that when my app unfolds, my 
 'appllication canvas' is actuly bigger that what the user sees. When 
 you dragg the app i want the draggeble area to be confined to the 
 size

 of the current stat of my application)

 Help is appreciated :)

 Cheers,

 Sidney
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RE: [Flashcoders] Classes added

2008-01-15 Thread Matthew James Poole

Yep we got that ;) 

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And by that I mean that it's poorly written, hehe.

 14.11 New expressions

 A new expression results in the invocation of the intrinsic construct

 method of the value computed by the expression that follows the new 
 keyword. Arguments, if specified, are passed to the construct method.

 If no arguments are specified, the parentheses may be omitted.

 That paragraph really clears things up. LOL!

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RE: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

2008-01-11 Thread Matthew James Poole

Cool, have you had a go with using Flex for AIR? Is very good :)

... Its about time I installed the Flash extension for AIR too ;) 

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That works :) Thanks

Muzak wrote:
 How do you trace your messages in AIR from the IDE? i dont get any i 
 just noticed.

 In the Flash IDE:
 Debug - Debug Movie works fine here.

 As explained in the docs:
 http://livedocs.adobe.com/labs/air/1/devappsflash/
 http://livedocs.adobe.com/labs/air/1/devappsflash/UsingFlash_5.html#10
 84922

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 I'll leave it be than, i'll use the standard adobe methods, they are 
 working without a hassel (time constrain ... :S)

 How do you trace your messages in AIR from the IDE? i dont get any i 
 just noticed.

 Matthew James Poole wrote:
 There are a few changes to the File class for example 
 file.resolve(url), is now file.resolvePath(url) and there are a 
 couple of new methods ...

 ... But from the error it looks like the AIRRemoteUpdaterEvent class

 is missing an import.

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RE: [Flashcoders] component rendering delay

2008-01-11 Thread Matthew James Poole

Have a look at this using a pseudo-threading technique for large
processing jobs that affect the UI - this should be what you need:

http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui/2008/01/

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Subject: [Flashcoders] component rendering delay

Hi all,
My component structure contains following things:

HdivideBox
 List/
 VBox
  TabNavigator
  /HBox
  VBox
/HdivideBox

when i create this component it takes time to render its UI, the reason
is mainly because,
1) The list has dataProvider which takes a custom item rendere  which
has images and 5-6 labels and a textArea
2) I Add VBox to tabnavigator and and in this Vbox I add lots of row
more than 50 , which has images and text...

So the base component takes time to render and all the  things on the UI
hangs ,, the processing resumes after 1/2 or 1 second..
is there any way which we can improve the processing time...

Thanks in advance ..please help
Regards
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RE: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

Hi Sidney,

I've just searched the Adobe bugs db on jira and there doesn't seem to
be anything reported for this. But I can confirm that I get the same RTE
too, so I'd guess they will make it available at the real launch... Had
you tried this functionality in the Earlier releases? - I believe it was
called Shell.startApplicationAtLogin...

Cheers
Matt

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Subject: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

Hi List,

I'm creating an app in AIR and do a
NativeApplication.nativeApplication.startAtLogin = true; (i have also
tried: NativeApplication.startAtLogin as stated in
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR:Release_Notes) to create a
startup folder entry (pc and mac). I import the file
flash.desktop.NativeApplication.
However it gives me this error:

Error: Error #2014: Feature is not available at this time.
at flash.desktop::NativeApplication/set startAtLogin()
at ae_fla::MainTimeline/setRunAtStartup()
at ae_fla::MainTimeline/frame1()

I have checked the error codes here: 
http://www.flexcoders.cn/showtopic-582.aspx and it says that  The
feature is not supported on this system.. Now i have checked the
labs.adobe docs and said it should be in there, i'm using the beta 3 for
CS3.

Does anyone have experience with this? Or know a workaround? Maybe the
method call was changed in beta 3?


Cheers,

Sidney

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RE: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

Hi Sid,

Thanks, That makes sense. That does help me - I'll be starting a app
soon that will need it. I've posted this the bug list anyway as this
isnt a very desriable thing:

http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-14282

You can try looking to see if you are running in a IDE player - In AS2
you could look at System.capabilities.playerType for this - I'm not sure
what AIR returns to this, but it should be different when running in the
IDE compared to a installed release version

Cheers
Matt


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de Koning
Sent: 10 January 2008 10:44
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

Hi Matthew,

Turns out that my function works, but only when i package and install
it, not when testing in the IDE, (and that is where the Feature is not
available error came from. So on Beta 3 it is: 
NativeApplication.nativeApplication.startAtLogin = Boolean;

Hope this helps you aswell :)

Sid

Matthew James Poole wrote:
 Hi Sidney,

 I've just searched the Adobe bugs db on jira and there doesn't seem to

 be anything reported for this. But I can confirm that I get the same 
 RTE too, so I'd guess they will make it available at the real 
 launch... Had you tried this functionality in the Earlier releases? - 
 I believe it was called Shell.startApplicationAtLogin...

 Cheers
 Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney

 de Koning
 Sent: 10 January 2008 09:28
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

 Hi List,

 I'm creating an app in AIR and do a
 NativeApplication.nativeApplication.startAtLogin = true; (i have also
 tried: NativeApplication.startAtLogin as stated in
 http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR:Release_Notes) to create a 
 startup folder entry (pc and mac). I import the file 
 flash.desktop.NativeApplication.
 However it gives me this error:

 Error: Error #2014: Feature is not available at this time.
 at flash.desktop::NativeApplication/set startAtLogin()
 at ae_fla::MainTimeline/setRunAtStartup()
 at ae_fla::MainTimeline/frame1()

 I have checked the error codes here: 
 http://www.flexcoders.cn/showtopic-582.aspx and it says that  The 
 feature is not supported on this system.. Now i have checked the 
 labs.adobe docs and said it should be in there, i'm using the beta 3 
 for CS3.

 Does anyone have experience with this? Or know a workaround? Maybe the

 method call was changed in beta 3?


 Cheers,

 Sidney
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RE: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

There are a few changes to the File class for example file.resolve(url),
is now file.resolvePath(url) and there are a couple of new methods ...

... But from the error it looks like the AIRRemoteUpdaterEvent class is
missing an import.

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de Koning
Sent: 10 January 2008 14:49
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

Nice one :)

Another thing, maybe you know this aswell; i'm using Claus Wahlers AIR
update class (http://codeazur.com.br/lab/airremoteupdater/) and i
already converted it to beta 3, however there is still a error i'm
getting about the flash.filesystem.File; import it says:
1046: Type was not found or was not a compile-time constant: File. 
public function AIRRemoteUpdaterEvent(type:String, file:File = null, 
bubbles:Boolean = false, cancelable:Boolean = true) { 

Had anything changed in flash.filesystem.File aswell?

Cheers,
Sid

Matthew James Poole wrote:
 Hi Sid,

 Thanks, That makes sense. That does help me - I'll be starting a app 
 soon that will need it. I've posted this the bug list anyway as this 
 isnt a very desriable thing:

 http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-14282

 You can try looking to see if you are running in a IDE player - In AS2

 you could look at System.capabilities.playerType for this - I'm not 
 sure what AIR returns to this, but it should be different when running

 in the IDE compared to a installed release version

 Cheers
 Matt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney

 de Koning
 Sent: 10 January 2008 10:44
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

 Hi Matthew,

 Turns out that my function works, but only when i package and install 
 it, not when testing in the IDE, (and that is where the Feature is 
 not available error came from. So on Beta 3 it is:
 NativeApplication.nativeApplication.startAtLogin = Boolean;

 Hope this helps you aswell :)

 Sid

 Matthew James Poole wrote:
   
 Hi Sidney,

 I've just searched the Adobe bugs db on jira and there doesn't seem 
 to
 

   
 be anything reported for this. But I can confirm that I get the same 
 RTE too, so I'd guess they will make it available at the real 
 launch... Had you tried this functionality in the Earlier releases? -

 I believe it was called Shell.startApplicationAtLogin...

 Cheers
 Matt

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Sidney
 

   
 de Koning
 Sent: 10 January 2008 09:28
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

 Hi List,

 I'm creating an app in AIR and do a
 NativeApplication.nativeApplication.startAtLogin = true; (i have also
 tried: NativeApplication.startAtLogin as stated in
 http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR:Release_Notes) to create a 
 startup folder entry (pc and mac). I import the file 
 flash.desktop.NativeApplication.
 However it gives me this error:

 Error: Error #2014: Feature is not available at this time.
 at flash.desktop::NativeApplication/set startAtLogin()
 at ae_fla::MainTimeline/setRunAtStartup()
 at ae_fla::MainTimeline/frame1()

 I have checked the error codes here: 
 http://www.flexcoders.cn/showtopic-582.aspx and it says that  The 
 feature is not supported on this system.. Now i have checked the 
 labs.adobe docs and said it should be in there, i'm using the beta 3 
 for CS3.

 Does anyone have experience with this? Or know a workaround? Maybe 
 the
 

   
 method call was changed in beta 3?


 Cheers,

 Sidney
 
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RE: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

Good plan, it doesn't look that complicated anyway...

@How do you trace your messages in AIR from the IDE?

Are you using Flex or Flash? I've not built any AIR in Flash so I cant
comment, but in Flex you get full stack trace, debug and memory profiler
for working in the IDE ;)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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de Koning
Sent: 10 January 2008 17:27
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

I'll leave it be than, i'll use the standard adobe methods, they are
working without a hassel (time constrain ... :S)

How do you trace your messages in AIR from the IDE? i dont get any i
just noticed.

Matthew James Poole wrote:
 There are a few changes to the File class for example 
 file.resolve(url), is now file.resolvePath(url) and there are a couple
of new methods ...

 ... But from the error it looks like the AIRRemoteUpdaterEvent class 
 is missing an import.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney

 de Koning
 Sent: 10 January 2008 14:49
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

 Nice one :)

 Another thing, maybe you know this aswell; i'm using Claus Wahlers AIR

 update class (http://codeazur.com.br/lab/airremoteupdater/) and i 
 already converted it to beta 3, however there is still a error i'm 
 getting about the flash.filesystem.File; import it says:
 1046: Type was not found or was not a compile-time constant: File. 
 public function AIRRemoteUpdaterEvent(type:String, file:File = null, 
 bubbles:Boolean = false, cancelable:Boolean = true) { 

 Had anything changed in flash.filesystem.File aswell?

 Cheers,
 Sid

 Matthew James Poole wrote:
   
 Hi Sid,

 Thanks, That makes sense. That does help me - I'll be starting a app 
 soon that will need it. I've posted this the bug list anyway as this 
 isnt a very desriable thing:

 http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-14282

 You can try looking to see if you are running in a IDE player - In 
 AS2
 

   
 you could look at System.capabilities.playerType for this - I'm not 
 sure what AIR returns to this, but it should be different when 
 running
 

   
 in the IDE compared to a installed release version

 Cheers
 Matt


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Sidney
 

   
 de Koning
 Sent: 10 January 2008 10:44
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] startAtLogin in AIR

 Hi Matthew,

 Turns out that my function works, but only when i package and install

 it, not when testing in the IDE, (and that is where the Feature is 
 not available error came from. So on Beta 3 it is:
 NativeApplication.nativeApplication.startAtLogin = Boolean;

 Hope this helps you aswell :)

 Sid

 Matthew James Poole wrote:
   
 
 Hi Sidney,

 I've just searched the Adobe bugs db on jira and there doesn't seem 
 to
 
   
   
 
 be anything reported for this. But I can confirm that I get the same

 RTE too, so I'd guess they will make it available at the real 
 launch... Had you tried this functionality in the Earlier releases? 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Error 1120?

2008-01-09 Thread James Booth


Try :

public class MathUtil {

- James

On Jan 9, 2008, at 10:00 PM, Dwayne Neckles wrote:


thanks so much for help me out
but its not working still here is the updated code..

** inside fla 
import com.bigspaceship.util.math.MathUtil;

var num:Number = MathUtil.getRandom(4,100);
trace(num)
* Class file below

package com.bigspaceship.util.math{
class MathUtil {

static var min_num:Number;
static var max_num:Number;
static var num1:Number;
static var num2:Number;
public static function getRandom(min_num, max_num) {
//return min_num + Math.floor(Math.random() * (max_num  
+ 1 - min_num));

}

public static function getRandomFloat(min_num, max_num) {
//return (min_num + Math.random() * (max_num - min_num));

}
public static function getCenterPoint(num1,num2) {
//return (num1 - num2 )/ 2;
}
}
}




Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:35:18 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Error 1120?

You're attempting to access instance vars in a static method.  Make
min_num and max_num static.

Also, you don't need to put a constructor in a static class.

Also, you should follow common practice and put public before static
when declaring functions and variables.


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RE: [Flashcoders] F9/Flex2: Resource Hit for Flash 8 Embeds?

Flash 8 movies loaded into a Flash 9 movie use the AVM1, whereas
anything AS3 uses the AVM2. I wasn't aware that multiple AVM1 instances
would be started up though... 

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Subject: [Flashcoders] F9/Flex2: Resource Hit for Flash 8 Embeds?

Okay, random question sparked by Glen Pike's response in another thread:

I was under the impression that any use of Flash 8 assets in a Flex 2
(and by extension Flash 9) by either embedding or loading caused the new
Player to instantiate a virtual FP8 player for each instance.
Does it apply only to loadMovie-ish commands?

Is this correct or did my reading comprehension fail me while first
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RE: [Flashcoders] PUSH/PULL model in AIR

... Also you could look into using BlazeDS if you know any Java you
could implement a JMS adapter for it... 

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James Poole
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] PUSH/PULL model in AIR

Everything you can do in Flex you can do in AIR, with the addition that
the security model is more relaxed. So yes polling a php script would
work. Or you could use XMLSocker or BinarySocker to have actual push -
though you'd need a socket server to achieve this... 

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Subject: [Flashcoders] PUSH/PULL model in AIR

Hi List,

Is there a push/pull model in AIR like there is in Flex? I need to show
a popup if the database has changed.
What is the best way of realizing this?
My idea was this;
let the air app contact a server/database (through php) with an interval
of 5 minutes orso to see if the data has changed, and if so, show the
popup. To simulate a push model.

If anybody has some ground breaking ideas, or a really good way of
realizing this, i'd love to hear!

Thanks,

Sidney
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RE: [Flashcoders] PUSH/PULL model in AIR

Hi Sidney,

It is possible to write socket servers in PHP (theres one in the Pear
library), but php is not generally considered a good language to write
one in. As such most Socket Servers used with Flash are written in Java
(or sometimes .Net).

It really depends on what you are trying to achieve, for example if its
multiuser games or chat then there are plenty of 3rd party solutions out
there - SmartFox and ElectroServer being just two. Also have you
considered using FMS? The new FMSI (or FMS 3.0) is looking like it will
be very good... 

... If the data doesn't need to be instantly synchronised across all
users then you might be better opting for polling your php on interval.

BlazeDS is the new Open Source remoting and web messagaing solution from
Adobe. I believe it used to be part of Life Cycle Data services which is
a paid-for product, but Adobe have now opened it up. Ultimately there
will be some sort of socket server involved in BlazeDS. BlazeDS is more
the framework that makes it easy to integrate distributed data into
Flex/AIR (also its written in Java so you'd need some sort of Java
application server such as Apache Tomcat (free) or IBM Websphere (not
free) etc).

Heres the BlazeDS link on labs:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/blazeds/

Hope all this helps

Cheers
Matt

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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de Koning
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] PUSH/PULL model in AIR

Hi Matthew!

With a socket server, can you tell me how to go? What software would i
need, and how long would it take to set up a socket server? (can this be
done with php, or do i need another language? because it needs to
support quite some people).

Can you also explain the difference tween a socket server and BlazeDS?

Thanks in advance,

Sidney

Matthew James Poole wrote:
 Everything you can do in Flex you can do in AIR, with the addition 
 that the security model is more relaxed. So yes polling a php script 
 would work. Or you could use XMLSocker or BinarySocker to have actual 
 push - though you'd need a socket server to achieve this...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney

 de Koning
 Sent: 08 January 2008 14:30
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: [Flashcoders] PUSH/PULL model in AIR

 Hi List,

 Is there a push/pull model in AIR like there is in Flex? I need to 
 show a popup if the database has changed.
 What is the best way of realizing this?
 My idea was this;
 let the air app contact a server/database (through php) with an 
 interval of 5 minutes orso to see if the data has changed, and if so, 
 show the popup. To simulate a push model.

 If anybody has some ground breaking ideas, or a really good way of 
 realizing this, i'd love to hear!

 Thanks,

 Sidney
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RE: [Flashcoders] F9/Flex2: Resource Hit for Flash 8 Embeds?

Yeah I think it may ignore any AS2 code when you embed an FP8 swf and
runs in the AVM2 as a simple animation... 

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Hi,

I think by using [Embed], the Flex compiler Transcodes stuff at
compile time - it also whinges about AS2 code if you are coding in AS3,
so I am guessing it maybe does not use the AVM1.

Runtime loading is different, but outside my expertise.

Glen

Matthew James Poole wrote:
 Flash 8 movies loaded into a Flash 9 movie use the AVM1, whereas 
 anything AS3 uses the AVM2. I wasn't aware that multiple AVM1 
 instances would be started up though...

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 Okay, random question sparked by Glen Pike's response in another
thread:

 I was under the impression that any use of Flash 8 assets in a Flex 2 
 (and by extension Flash 9) by either embedding or loading caused the 
 new Player to instantiate a virtual FP8 player for each instance.
 Does it apply only to loadMovie-ish commands?

 Is this correct or did my reading comprehension fail me while first 
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RE: [Flashcoders] PUSH/PULL model in AIR

Its sounds like you want to investigate using an XMLSocket Server users
connect and stay connected such that when a change occurs all connected
clients get the data instantly (plus or minus the latency / wire time) 

Download the trials of one of both of these and have a play:

http://www.smartfoxserver.com/
http://www.electro-server.com/

I can help suggest architechtures for these if you like...


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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de Koning
Sent: 08 January 2008 17:15
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] PUSH/PULL model in AIR

Hi Matthew,

Thanks for the reply, it cleared things up.

What i 'm trying to achieve is this: I have a application that is just
listening to updates according to the preferences within tha app, and
checks every 5 minutes if there is an update. However with the push
model , as soon as an update is available it is pushed to all connected
clients. And this is what i would like to accomplish, to have updates
pushed to my app. Updates are in the form of xml or text (dont know how
an socket server pushes its data, or in what format it is. is there and
uniform format or can i specify?)

Thanks

Sidney


Matthew James Poole wrote:
 Hi Sidney,

 It is possible to write socket servers in PHP (theres one in the Pear
 library), but php is not generally considered a good language to write
 one in. As such most Socket Servers used with Flash are written in
Java
 (or sometimes .Net).

 It really depends on what you are trying to achieve, for example if
its
 multiuser games or chat then there are plenty of 3rd party solutions
out
 there - SmartFox and ElectroServer being just two. Also have you
 considered using FMS? The new FMSI (or FMS 3.0) is looking like it
will
 be very good... 

 ... If the data doesn't need to be instantly synchronised across all
 users then you might be better opting for polling your php on
interval.

 BlazeDS is the new Open Source remoting and web messagaing solution
from
 Adobe. I believe it used to be part of Life Cycle Data services which
is
 a paid-for product, but Adobe have now opened it up. Ultimately there
 will be some sort of socket server involved in BlazeDS. BlazeDS is
more
 the framework that makes it easy to integrate distributed data into
 Flex/AIR (also its written in Java so you'd need some sort of Java
 application server such as Apache Tomcat (free) or IBM Websphere (not
 free) etc).

 Heres the BlazeDS link on labs:
 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/blazeds/

 Hope all this helps

 Cheers
 Matt

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney
 de Koning
 Sent: 08 January 2008 15:54
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] PUSH/PULL model in AIR

 Hi Matthew!

 With a socket server, can you tell me how to go? What software would i
 need, and how long would it take to set up a socket server? (can this
be
 done with php, or do i need another language? because it needs to
 support quite some people).

 Can you also explain the difference tween a socket server and BlazeDS?

 Thanks in advance,

 Sidney

 Matthew James Poole wrote:
   
 Everything you can do in Flex you can do in AIR, with the addition 
 that the security model is more relaxed. So yes polling a php script 
 would work. Or you could use XMLSocker or BinarySocker to have actual

 push - though you'd need a socket server to achieve this...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Sidney
 

   
 de Koning
 Sent: 08 January 2008 14:30
 To: Flash Coders List
 Subject: [Flashcoders] PUSH/PULL model in AIR

 Hi List,

 Is there a push/pull model in AIR like there is in Flex? I need to 
 show a popup if the database has changed.
 What is the best way of realizing this?
 My idea was this;
 let the air app contact a server/database (through php) with an 
 interval of 5 minutes orso to see if the data has changed, and if so,

 show the popup. To simulate a push model.

 If anybody has some ground breaking ideas, or a really good way of 
 realizing this, i'd love to hear!

 Thanks,

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