RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
I wondered the same thing. From what it looks like to me, RoboHelp supports Framemaker in that it imports .fm and .mif files. Since they don't list Frame as a supported authoring environment, it doesn't look like it is heavily integrated (/assumption). Here's what I gleaned off the website: Support for Adobe FrameMaker 8 (Enhanced) Import multiple Adobe FrameMaker(r) files (MIF and FM) at one time with tables of contents, indexes, and glossaries. Apply conditional build tags or user-defined variables to content before importing or when it's time to publish. Map FrameMaker styles to RoboHelp styles when importing MIF files. Repurpose FrameMaker content for HTML publishing on import and use Topic Alias Markers to identify context-sensitive help. http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/productinfo/features/ Which authoring environment does RoboHelp 7 support other than the built-in HTML editor? RoboHelp 7 supports Adobe Dreamweaver(r) CS3; Macromedia(r) Dreamweaver 8 from Adobe; Microsoft FrontPage 2003; HomeSite 5.5; and Microsoft Word 2007, Word 2003, Word 2002, and Word 2000. http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/productinfo/faq/ Does RoboHelp 7 integrate with FrameMaker? You can import FrameMaker 8 MIF and FM files with style mapping, conditional tags, user-defined variables, and Captivate content intact. Additional RoboHelp 7 and FrameMaker integration can be experienced through new Adobe Technical Communication Suite software, which includes RoboHelp 7, FrameMaker 8, Captivate 3, and Adobe Acrobat(r) 3D Version 8 software. http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/productinfo/faq/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a successful marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only been a short time since the two were developed under the same roof, so to speak. I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work together. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Recording DVDs
Yes. Once you import your VHS tapes as files, your DVD editing/burning software should allow you to make your own DVD menu. I used one of the programs that came with Nero Ultimate Edition to do just this with my wedding footage. There are better programs out there, but I was working with what I had on-hand. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 3:27 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Recording DVDs I am sorry for the seriously off-topic post, but here goes. I need to record some VCR tapes onto DVD. I can buy hardware to do this, but is there a method for making a menu for the DVD so I can navigate to different sections on the DVD (like a commercial DVD)? Thanks in advance. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
Vivek Jain @ Adobe discusses single-sourcing with RoboHelp and FrameMaker on the Adobe Technical Communication blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/ At the same time, you manage the content from FrameMaker files in a set of special folders, providing you the flexibility of continuously updating the content as you edit the files in FrameMaker. To make the workflow smoother, RoboHelp provides a visual indicator of whether the content in RoboHelp is out of synchronization with FrameMaker content or not. This is looking interesting. Anyone know of a good listserv devoted to discussing RoboHelp? -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:28 AM To: Richard Levine; framers@lists.frameusers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Richard Levine wrote: I cannot really say that round-tripping is what I am looking for. What I would really like to see a fully integrated authoring environment that integrates multi-channel output with a powerful editor that overcomes FrameMaker's many limitations, thus obviating the need for import and export. snip RoboHelp is a full featured HAT with printed output (PDF) support. Why not just import my legacy Frame documents into RoboHelp, and then use RoboHelp as my authoring environment? On the one hand, you complain about FrameMaker's many limitations (such as?). On the other hand, you're suggesting dumping it and settling for RoboHelp's printed output. Are you kidding? It sounds like you really _don't_ know what you're looking for -- you just know you don't like FrameMaker. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame in Windows emulation
I can confirm excellent results running a Windows VM in Ubuntu (6.X) using the VMWare Server installed through Synaptic. I can't say if Wine is better or worse than VMWare. With a Virtual Machine, you have higher system overhead to run the guest OS...but a much greater likelihood that everything will work as you are used to and as expected. With Wine, you get to work in Linux, have lower resource overhead, but some things may not work as expected/at all. I figured that *for me*, the approach with the least amount of risk was to use a VM. (The fact that Virtual Machines are understood by my colleagues was also a consideration. Linux is not (yet) a popular OS in my office.) -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graeme Worth Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:43 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame in Windows emulation I am considering moving from a Windows to a Linux OS and running Framemaker V6 in a Windows emulation. I am amware of 1 person who has successfully run FM 7 under Ubuntu in this manner, and I'd welcome any further observations or comments anyone may have before I commit to this path - eg is Wine better or worse than VMWare, are particular flavours of Linux better or worse for this sort of thing, etc thanks Graeme ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: problems with eps graphics in framemaker
I don't know why it is happening, but I can say we have the same problem. For us, FrameMaker has always behaved this way, and I just assumed that it was set in stone and couldn't be improved upon. For that reason, we don't work off the server. I don't remember if I ever researched it or not. I inherited the problem from the last TW and was told about it as if it were a known fact about FrameMaker. I'd be really interested to know if there is a fix for this as well. FWIW: I'm using Frame 6.x and all our graphics are .eps. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pacholkd Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 3:59 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: problems with eps graphics in framemaker Hello Framers. I'm having trouble bringing up EPS graphics imported by reference in FrameMaker 7.2 and FrameMaker 8 documents. JPG, TIF, PNG, and other formats load quickly. However, a good sized EPS graphic imported by reference can take 5 minuets or more before it shows up. This only happens when working off the server. If I copy all files and work locally, EPS graphics show up almost immediately. The same EPS graphics load just fine in other applications (FreeHand 9, MS Word from Office 2003). The IT tech has done data transfer rate benchmarks and data is moving back and forth between the server and my laptop normally; laptop is an IBM ThinkPad T60p wide screen, with 3GB RAM, ATI graphics. The EPS graphics load just fine on my old Pentium III workstation. Any insight as to what's happening would be appreciated. R. Pacholke Sr. Tech. Wr. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Acrobat / FrameMaker conflicts during install
Is it only the .exe files that are missing, or are all the dll's missing to? If it's only the .exe files, you might try creating your own empty text files with the same file names as the missing .exe files. Maybe the uninstaller just wants to remove a file with that name, and doesn't actually have to open it or look inside the file. If all the .dlls are gone too, then obviously your headache is much bigger. Just a suggestion while you wait for IT... -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:36 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Acrobat / FrameMaker conflicts during install My client company just went ahead and bit the bullet and forked out around $800 or so for FrameMaker 8.0. (Does this mean that Frame 9.0 will be $900, Frame 10.0 will be $1,000, etc, etc?). We also bought Acrobat Professional 8.0 as well. I want to do a clean installation but before I do, I have some concerns because of what is on the terminal that I inherited (with Windows XP Office and the service packs, etc.). It already has on it the folders (and their subfolders) - but NOT the executable application files - for Acrobat 6.0 and 7.0. Without the executable files, I can't do an uninstall via Control Panel. So apparently, my only option is to simply do what you're NOT supposed to do - just delete the Acrobat 6.0 and 7.0 folders. Ooh, but that grates on me because I fear that bits and pieces of either or both Acrobats are already strewn hither and thither throughout the Windows XP operating system and will cause problems later on down the line. Or not. (Remember the good old days, when a program was all in one folder, I mean directory? Hah! We'll never see THAT stuff again.) I already found out the hard way how nice and courteous (NOT!!) one Acrobat program is to another after first installing FrameMaker 8.0 (along with its PDFMaker feature) and then NOT being able to install Acrobat 8.0 afterwards. (I kept getting a message after the Acrobat 8.0 setup procedure was well into progress that Setup has detected that you already have a more functional product installed. Setup will now terminate.) So I uninstalled FM8.0 and its plug-ins and the Acrobat 8.0 install moved along much further than before (I had to cancel it, however, until my IT guy gets in here with the serial number). So with FM8.0 and Acrobat8.0 currently off the drive, what to do about the previously installed Acrobat 6.0 and 7.0 folders in light of their missing executable application files. Just delete them and proceed with the Acrobat 8.0 and then FM 8.0 installations? BTW, the Adobe docs really play up the purchased support plans (even for defective products), leading me to believe that free telephone support for initial setup is no more. But somewhere, I did find that there apparently is 90-day free phone support for initial setup problems. Am I correct on this? -- Ken in Atlanta ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Annoying FrameMaker Question
Stuart, Carla Thank you both for your suggestions (sorry if I missed anyone else!). It didn't look like Modified FrameMaker Utilities Carla suggested would work with my version of FrameMaker. At Stuart's suggestion, I tried ResourceHacker and within minutes managed to modify and test the dialog in question. Wow. What a powerful tool! Thanks again for all your help and suggestions. -Michael -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:08 PM To: Michael O'Neill Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Annoying FrameMaker Question Michael O'Neill wrote: Hi Folks, I am using FrameMaker 6.x and am very annoyed with the size of the Show/Hide Conditional Text window. It isn't wide enough to show the full names of my conditions, and doesn't appear to allow resizing. Does anyone know if: 1) There is a way to scroll the conditions in the Show and Hide columns sideways? Arrow keys don't work. 2) Or, if there's a way to resize the entire window. This is a long shot, but FrameMaker has a long history of surprising me with capabilities I assumed it did not have... Hi Michael, I've used ResourceHacker to modify a number of Frame's irritatingly undersized, tiny-fonted dialog boxes. Handle with care, but you should be able to fix your problem with it. The file you want to BACKUP!! before modifying is fmdlg.dll in C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.0\fminit\ http://www.snapfiles.com/get/resourcehacker.html (There are lots of other source URLs, just google it.) best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com If it makes things work more easily, why isn't it called lubrican? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Annoying FrameMaker Question
Hi Folks, I am using FrameMaker 6.x and am very annoyed with the size of the Show/Hide Conditional Text window. It isn't wide enough to show the full names of my conditions, and doesn't appear to allow resizing. Does anyone know if: 1) There is a way to scroll the conditions in the Show and Hide columns sideways? Arrow keys don't work. 2) Or, if there's a way to resize the entire window. This is a long shot, but FrameMaker has a long history of surprising me with capabilities I assumed it did not have... Thanks in advance. -Michael PS: If you know if more recent versions of FrameMaker have this same behavior, I'd be delighted to hear. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT
Yes LOF and LOT are both examples of front matter, but so is a ToC. IMHO, the only things (standard elements) that should come before the ToC are the Cover and the Legal page (if not at the end). Anything else will likely just be contrary to user expectations. With that said, there ARE exceptions to every rule, and this may be one (though on the surface, it doesn't sound like it). Before acquiescing, I'd ask for a better reason than the front matter one. Perhaps he can show you some examples of documents (external to your organization) that are organized his way? -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deirdre Reagan Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:46 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT Hi all: My co-worker and I are debating about the order of the TOC, LOF and LOT. I say they are all tables of content, and should come in the order TOC, LOF, LOT (or LOT, LOF, I don't really mind, just TOC first). He says that LOF and LOT are front matter and are not called out in the TOC, so they should come before the TOC. Any comments? Thanks, Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs
You could probably do it with AutoIT, though it would take some practice to get right. If you have an engineer to work with, they could probably make quick work out of it (after complaining about how AutoIT is too much like Visual Basic) with your help. http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/ I managed to hack together automation for many of my tasks. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:17 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs Framers, A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly that will do the following: - Pull FM files and books from their version control system (PVCS) - Maybe set conditions (not sure if this is needed yet) - Update the books - Create PDFs of books and some stand-alone files - Put the resulting PDFs in a specific place for the nightly build It seems like fmbatch can do this, but I think it only works with FM for Unix (they have FM for Win). Can any of the other FDK tools do this? (An in-house developer will likely write the script.) What about FrameScript? What tool is best? Thanks for your help! ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Windows command for moving a window or dialog box
One additional point: If you can't seem to move the dialog or window into a viewable area using the arrow keys, you can follow Stuart's instructions except when it comes to using the arrow keys, you can press the Up arrow key ONCE (any arrow key will probably work) and then move your mouse around (don't click!). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:55 PM To: Rick Quatro Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Windows command for moving a window or dialog box Rick Quatro wrote: Hi Framers, I have the case of the missing dialog box. What is the Windows keyboard shortcut for moving a dialog box or window with the arrow keys? Thank you very much. If your dialog box is off-monitor, make it the active window by choosing its command from the menu (or by typing the keyboard shortcut), then type Alt+spacebar to activate the title bar menu, and type M for Move. (Important! Do not move your mouse!) Experiment with holding down different arrow keys until the dialog box comes back into view. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com I'll stop saying Microsoft is arrogant when Windows stops saying Welcome and instead asks May I? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Recovery
Here's what I would do: 1) Back up a copy of both the original and the recovered versions to someplace safe. 2) Open the recovered version in FrameMaker. 3) Open the original version in FrameMaker (might have to force it). 4) Compare the differences between the two versions using FrameMaker's compare feature. (File- Utilities- Compare Documents) Select the Summary and Composite Documents option when doing so. 5) See which version has the most up-to-date information. Save that version over the original version. Note: I just sort of developed this method by intuition. I'd be glad to hear if anyone does something different/there are problems with my method/easier ways to determine whether or not to go with a recovery version of a .fm file. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Winberg Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:59 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Recovery Hello Framers I am building a Book and got the Book Error Report saying Couldn't open file because a more recent autosaved or recovered version exists. There is a recovered version in the folder. What is the safe thing to do?? Les Winberg ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?
You do need Acrobat Professional in order to save the PDF with commenting enabled for Adobe Reader. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tina Ricks Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:01 PM To: 'Frame Users' Subject: Export a FM book to single Word file? I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put them back together by hand in Word. I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame RTF export. I've been researching the commenting features in Acrobat 8, and I keep coming across this statement: Commenting tools are only available in PDFs that have commenting enabled. OK. but it looks as if I can't enable commenting rights from the PDFs that come out of FM8's File Save as PDF feature (unless I'm missing something). I don't really want to buy full Acrobat just for this feature. Sending an enormous zip file of little Word documents isn't very efficient for the reader on the other end. There's no RTF option in File Save Book As. Ideas? Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?
At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html: Q. Can I mark up and review files in Adobe Reader? A. Yes, if this functionality has been rights-enabled by the PDF author. Adobe Acrobat or Adobe LiveCycle software lets PDF authors turn on special commenting tools in Adobe Reader on a document-by-document basis. This capability enables Adobe Reader 7.0 users to easily review and mark up PDF files with a variety of commenting and markup tools. You can add sticky notes; indicate text edits; and highlight, cross out, or underline text. You can also add premade or dynamic stamps. Q. Can I add comments to a PDF file with Adobe Reader? A. PDF authors using Adobe LiveCycle(tm) enterprise server and design software can activate special features in their documents that provide additional functionality. These enabled Adobe PDF files allow people with Adobe Reader to save the file to a local hard drive, fill out forms, add comments and other markups, share it with others, and submit a completed document electronically. In addition, Adobe PDF files can be enabled to allow people to digitally sign, certify, and authenticate a document. The first answer does _not_ specify that Acrobat Professional is required to turn on the special commenting tools when the PDF is opened in Adobe Reader. The second answer is more specific, requiring Acrobat Professional or Adobe LiveCycle. In either case, Acrobat Professional will do the job...but depending on what you want your reviewers to do with Adobe Reader, you _may_ be able to get by with a less expensive version of Acrobat. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tina Ricks Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:09 PM To: 'Frame Users' Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file? Thanks for input everyone. It seems that buying Acrobat Pro for the comments feature is the most stable and the cheapest answer, and my Word-loving reviewers will have to live with it. If I give them the choice of reviewing one PDF file with comments vs. 32 separate Word files, they'll choose the PDF. Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?
Sweet. Just wanted to make sure I didn’t get yelled at for suggesting the most expensive option if cheaper alternatives existed. -Michael From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:23 PM To: Michael O'Neill; Tina Ricks; Frame Users Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file? Michale O'Neill write (in part): At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html: No real confusion except for the fact that the FAQ page clearly has not been updated since Acrobat 7.0. If you look at the product feature comparison matrix for Acrobat 8.0 http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html you will clearly see that the feature described as: Enable Adobe Reader† users to participate in reviews with complete commenting and markup tools, including sticky notes, highlighter, lines, shapes, and stamps is only supported by the Professional and 3D versions of the Acrobat product suite. Fred Ridder Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. Check it out. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Marketing a product: which language for the documentation
Here's my 2 cents: 1) Are their rules, laws, or regulations governing this in each country it will be sold in (note: type of product might have an impact here) For example, in the USA there _may_ be FDA regulations about documentation localization for medical devices...FCC regulations about broadcast equipment documentation and telecommunications product documentation, etc... 2) The marketing decision for the product I'm sure at one time or another, most of us English speakers have had the experience of assembling furniture/children's toys/gadgets/etc... where the instructions are not in English. This definitely contributes to the user impression of the product with regards to quality. It also might have a relationship to extra costs for support, returns, malfunctions, etc... for the company selling the product. In many companies, Marketing depts. weigh these variables and decide. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:framers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mathieu jacquet Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:52 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Marketing a product: which language for the documentation Hi to all, here is a question from a client: he's just developed a new GPS-based product in France, has a getting started and user manual written (I'm currently working on it) in French and would like to know if he is supposed to have them translated... I answered yes, you have to have them translated into the languages of countries where you want the product marketted. But I am not 100% sure of the answer. The other question is: does the client have to have both manuals translated? Do you have any idea of official (governmental) documents about this kind of issue (Europe and/or US)? Thank a lot! Mathieu. _ Faites vous de nouveaux amis grâce à l'annuaire des profils Messenger ! http://home.services.spaces.live.com/search/?page=searchresultsss=trueFo rmId=AdvPeopleSearchform=SPXFRMtp=3sc=2pg=0Search.DisplayName=Nom+pub licsearch.gender=search.age=Search.FirstName=Pr%C3%A9nomSearch.LastNam e=Nomsearch.location=Lieusearch.occupation=Professionsearch.interests=a missubmit=Rechercher ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta- comm.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chickenoregg?
If Jim Owens is right, and there are desirable help features that can't be implemented via FM, then these are shortcomings in the tools that ought to be put on the enhancement request list. But, IMHO, make the HTML roundtrippable should not be one of those requests. Every tool has it's shortcomings... One that was a deal-breaker for us when evaluating TCS was the ability to convert step by step procedures in FrameMaker to drop-down sections in RH. When we looked, the only way to implement drop-down text in RH was to edit and maintain the content in RH. Anyone know if this has changed? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Job Posting: Part Time Technical Book Writer
Passing this on from HR in case anyone is interested. PART-TIME TECHNICAL BOOK WRITER MetaCommunications is seeking out a part-time candidate to write conceptual and technical reference books for print publication. Responsibilities include developing and writing printed books covering our software products (www.meta-comm.com) and their use and applicability for solving real business problems. Qualifications include technical computer knowledge, strong writing skills, editing, and self motivation. Experience with database-driven applications, application development, scripting, MS SQL Server, and FrameMaker preferred. Knowledge of how to plan, research, and write compelling technical concept and reference material is essential. Send resume and writing samples in confidence to: MetaCommunications, 1210 S. Gilbert, Iowa City, IA 52240 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
I use Index Tools Professional from Silicon Prairie Software. By and large, I am happy with it. It has sped up indexing tremendously...and makes it pretty darn easy to see what index tags are currently in place. I haven't tried other tools. This was the first we tried and it was such a clear improvement that we jumped and went with it. http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html If you have specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Collier Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 3:31 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker? We are currently using FrameMaker 6.0 but are going to move to FrameMaker 8 (Structured) within the next year. We are in desperate need of a indexing tool. What are your recommendations? I've done some research but I'd like to hear what's working well in the field. Thanks in advance for your input. Jen Collier Horizon Software International, LLC Technical Publications Manager 770-554-6353 ext. 283 www.horizonsoftware.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Smart way to achieve goal in FM
OK Folks, Here's a basic question for the gurus/experts. I've been using FM for a number of years now, but recently I'm trying to do something that I haven't done before so I'm not sure of the best way to achieve my objective. Context: The document I am authoring from scratch is an entry-level type document that deals mostly with system concepts and strategies. It will link to already extant procedures in the online help, installation guides, etc... The document will be delivered as both a stand-alone PDF, and as part of a merged help set produced with WWP2003. Goal: One of the things my manager wants is a threaded/running Example/Scenario section that will appear in various portions of the book that will explain the concepts in terms of an actual example. Basically, this means introducing the Example scenario in the beginning of the guide and corresponding sections of text in various and subsequent chapters. I want this content to appear with a light gray background. How do I do this? Here's what I've thought of: Inserting a one-cell table with a gray background wherever this type of content appears. Problem (which may have its own solution): The one cell table is essentially 1 row, and it doesn't appear that you can break a row across a page. Adding a text frame for this content (from the graphics toolbar). Seems do-able, as I can control the dimensions and background color of the text frame. Only problem is WWP tends to put text frames at the end of the chapter and not at the location in which they appear in the FM document. Anyone have a good solution for this? Like I said, we've never wanted to do this type of thing before, so I am likely missing something obvious. I'm not averse to using the help or other references...but my searches thus far have been hindered by not knowing a good keyword to start with. Alternatively, am I missing something obvious? Is there a paragraph style for background color that I've managed to miss repeatedly? -Michael -=- FrameMaker 6.x -=- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Smart way to achieve goal in FM
Thanks everyone, for the suggestions! I went with the single-column, multiple rows table approach. Now I get to beat WWP into submission! -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:34 PM To: Michael O'Neill Cc: framers Subject: Re: Smart way to achieve goal in FM I'd make a table format and set it up that way. Then you don't have any manual operations other than adding an additional row cell to break across pages. Scott At 2:08 PM -0400 9/12/08, Art Campbell wrote: The way I'd deal with it is your table method. The usual way to allow or force row/table breaks across pages is to use a multi-row single column table with reasonable size text snippets in each row. Then use custom ruling to eliminate the inter-row rules so that it appears to be a single row. Yes, you have to do it manually, but if it's not a big deal unless you're constantly doing twiddles to the content that affect the size of the cells. Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)
One additional note, MoinMoin wiki can be configured to allow users to output content as/via/through (not sure of the right terminology) DocBook. I haven't explored this yet to see whether that's HTML output or PDF output (or both). This is something I'd like to know more about, as to me it would be pretty compelling for us to take care of the source-wiki workflow and let users generate their own PDFs on demand from the wiki, if they so desire. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crimmin, Peter Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:49 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?) [cross-posted to TECHWR-L mailing list] Can anyone recommend technologies to do the following: * Hosted documentation, available on the internet as a web service. * Each doc topic allows users to add comments. (e.g. Here's a better example to do this task...) * Management tools to moderate user comments, and to handle documentation updates (retaining the comments). * Authoring tools to produce said documentation. The open source community exploits these technologies. How do they do it? I have an inkling for a solution: FrameMakerDocBookePublisher? Thanks for your ideas ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Runnning Windows on Mac news
I just watched someone here at the office run Parallels and switch between OS X and Windows. It looked pretty slick, especially with the copy and paste support between the two Operating Systems. He said setup was pretty painless and unbelievably fast. He was running Win2003 and OS X on a Powerbook Pro (dual core). I only witnessed, and didn't have time to work with, anything myself...but it seemed to be very fast in both operating systems. Of course, I wouldn't want to run Photoshop in Windows and Final Cut in OS X at the same time... ;P Pretty slick and impressive nonetheless. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:32 PM To: Pat Christenson; framers List Subject: Re: Runnning Windows on Mac news At 3:58 PM -0700 4/13/06, Pat Christenson wrote: The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a beta software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, not just XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have to reboot when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You have to network them to share files. The free download is available at http://www.parallels.com/. This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the I don't wanna buy a PC just to run FrameMaker folks (of which I am one, although I already have both a Mac and a PC). Pat Christenson Boot Camp enables you to run Windows XP natively. The beta copy already has the native drivers. There is no speed degradation. It is not emulation. Parallels seems to be virtulization, but not emulation. It is a true beta and does not yet have all the drivers needed. The caveat is that you need an Intel Mac to run these programs. Scott Turner ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Based on what you wrote, and assuming that the graphics you have to edit are not Vectors, I would say Photoshop is the tool for you. You are describing editing pixels, and Photoshop would likely be more appropriate than Illustrator for these tasks. If budget is a concern, you can also try: PaintShopPro $79 US http://www.corel.com/PaintShopPro Free evaluation version available Win only the Gimp **FREE** http://www.gimp.org Win, Mac, Linux, Unix, etc.. -Michael -Original Message- From: Cris Reeser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: OS 9 Applications on Tiger
For what it's worth: I'm running 10.4.8 and still using some classic applications. When setting up the Mac, I had to install the Classic environment as well. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Beard Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 3:03 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Ann, As far as I'm aware, Tiger does NOT support OS 9 in any form. Mac OS X up to somewhere around 10.3 or so WOULD run OS 9 apps in, basically, emulation form in what was known as Classic. However, OS X 10.4 dropped that provision, as far as I know. But, then again, if an Apple rep told you this, it might be true. Was the rep one of the sales phone reps or a tech support rep, either at an Apple store or via the phone support? If there's an Apple store near you, you might consider dropping in there and asking them about your situation. The people staffing Apple's genius bar are pretty knowledgeable and, usually, more than willing to help out, and NOT just because that's what they get paid for, either! Sam Beard Technical Communications - Special Projects CTES - LP 936 521-2241 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Zdunczyk Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:48 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Hi All, I have a G5 running Panther that I purchased several years ago. A purchased an upgrade for one of my applications and it requires OS 10.4 (Tiger) to run. I was told by the Apple rep that Tiger would run my OS 9 applications on this machine just fine. Since I do not have the New Mac technology, which I understand will not run OS 9 appications, I should be OK. So I am asking the people on this list that work on Macs if there are any problems that they have running into running OS 9 applications with Tiger. I know you all will tell me the UNVARNISHED truth rather than a rep trying to sell me the software. So please let me know of any problems that you have run into with Tiger. Thanks All Z ** Ann Zdunczyk President a2z Publishing, Inc. Language Layout Translation Consulting Phone: (336)922-1271 Fax: (336)922-4980 Cell: (336)456-4493 http://www.a2z-pub.com ** ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sam.beard%40ctes.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: OS 9 Applications on Tiger
I'm running this on a Mac Mini with a G4 proc. It's been a long time since I set it up, but as best as I can remember, I installed the Classic environment as part of the initial setup and configuration of Tiger. This required the use of a Classic environment disk (again, if I remember correctly). When I try to open a Classic (OS9) application, the Classic environment opens automatically within OS X and the application I originally tried to open runs within this. I don't boot to Classic or do any dual booting shenanigans. In the System Preferences, there is a Classic icon under System that allows me to set various Classic options, including starting when logging in, warning before starting Classic, various memory usage settings for Classic, and more. OS 9/Classic does NOT appear as an option when under Startup Disk preferences. Sorry I can't provide too many details. It's been a long time since I initially set it up and I use Classic less and less frequently every week that passes. At least I know that in at least my circumstance, Classic does work on Tiger. -Michael -Original Message- From: Sam Beard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 4:49 PM To: Michael O'Neill; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Michael and Scott, This is intriguing to me. My understanding was that Classic, and therefore OS 9, wouldn't run on any of the later machines, particularly any Intel-based machines. Are either of you running one of these? What machines are you running? Are you running OS 9 in emulation of some sort or as a stand-alone OS, that you can choose upon start-up? In other words, more details, please! ;-P Sam Beard Technical Communications - Special Projects CTES - LP 936 521-2241 Scott White wrote: We run Tiger and you have to take an OS9 disc and load it as well. However, the Macs that run both windows and OS10 run Frame for the PC just fine. We are using it here. FYI. And Michael O'Neill wrote: For what it's worth: I'm running 10.4.8 and still using some classic applications. When setting up the Mac, I had to install the Classic environment as well. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Beard Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 3:03 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Ann, As far as I'm aware, Tiger does NOT support OS 9 in any form. Mac OS X up to somewhere around 10.3 or so WOULD run OS 9 apps in, basically, emulation form in what was known as Classic. However, OS X 10.4 dropped that provision, as far as I know. But, then again, if an Apple rep told you this, it might be true. Was the rep one of the sales phone reps or a tech support rep, either at an Apple store or via the phone support? If there's an Apple store near you, you might consider dropping in there and asking them about your situation. The people staffing Apple's genius bar are pretty knowledgeable and, usually, more than willing to help out, and NOT just because that's what they get paid for, either! Sam Beard Technical Communications - Special Projects CTES - LP 936 521-2241 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Zdunczyk Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:48 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Hi All, I have a G5 running Panther that I purchased several years ago. A purchased an upgrade for one of my applications and it requires OS 10.4 (Tiger) to run. I was told by the Apple rep that Tiger would run my OS 9 applications on this machine just fine. Since I do not have the New Mac technology, which I understand will not run OS 9 appications, I should be OK. So I am asking the people on this list that work on Macs if there are any problems that they have running into running OS 9 applications with Tiger. I know you all will tell me the UNVARNISHED truth rather than a rep trying to sell me the software. So please let me know of any problems that you have run into with Tiger. Thanks All Z ** Ann Zdunczyk President a2z Publishing, Inc. Language Layout Translation Consulting Phone: (336)922-1271 Fax: (336)922-4980 Cell: (336)456-4493 http://www.a2z-pub.com ** ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sam.beard%40ctes.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send
OT: My Favorite Software
I'd open Python and: 1) Type "47**349" [quotes excluded] 2) Press Enter. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Briggs Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:16 PM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: OT: My Favorite Software At 12:03 PM -0500 6/22/07, Mike Wickham wrote: >(Sorry, but there's no Mac version). You can make dual windows... That's okay. We have our own productivity tools here. Actually, the Mac UI is full of slick shortcuts if people bothered to learn them (many users I observe just don't know them). Then we have Default Folder and TypeIt4Me, two of my favourites. And there's AppleScript to build many custom tools I want/need. We're actually tricked out pretty well over here on this side. And that's not even mentioning the wickedly powerful Terminal application. Quick question, what would you do on Windows if I asked you to produce the "exact" result of 47^349 ? cheers, - web P.S. The answer is (treating the slashes as line breaks): 36488198307946258455040083461931788692283021454753331068838121209621\ 60168618132256654517666288905892962450773842407026457949166253600986\ 62773822808929101394428757123356612225717885272866107756099535063522\ 28541622697598495945714127711339367548988192999053989913912667518968\ 48027317362164279655037556238733181563031879088610076781489176030311\ 86871097834499844527627987425883046890564567818826714460124283388128\ 53693336570118416778402837578706937499830758984555137213238296521997\ 67939124567141915541148377708610174657314348459802123207919562952304\ 2900446532752828112156659354115469376367 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
problems with eps graphics in framemaker
I don't know why it is happening, but I can say we have the same problem. For us, FrameMaker has always behaved this way, and I just assumed that it was set in stone and couldn't be improved upon. For that reason, we don't work off the server. I don't remember if I ever researched it or not. I inherited the problem from the last TW and was told about it as if it were a known fact about FrameMaker. I'd be really interested to know if there is a fix for this as well. FWIW: I'm using Frame 6.x and all our graphics are .eps. -Michael -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of pacholkd Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 3:59 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: problems with eps graphics in framemaker Hello Framers. I'm having trouble bringing up EPS graphics imported by reference in FrameMaker 7.2 and FrameMaker 8 documents. JPG, TIF, PNG, and other formats load quickly. However, a good sized EPS graphic imported by reference can take 5 minuets or more before it shows up. This only happens when working off the server. If I copy all files and work locally, EPS graphics show up almost immediately. The same EPS graphics load just fine in other applications (FreeHand 9, MS Word from Office 2003). The IT tech has done data transfer rate benchmarks and data is moving back and forth between the server and my laptop normally; laptop is an IBM ThinkPad T60p wide screen, with 3GB RAM, ATI graphics. The EPS graphics load just fine on my old Pentium III workstation. Any insight as to what's happening would be appreciated. R. Pacholke Sr. Tech. Wr. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
Vivek Jain @ Adobe discusses single-sourcing with RoboHelp and FrameMaker on the Adobe Technical Communication blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/ "At the same time, you manage the content from FrameMaker files in a set of special folders, providing you the flexibility of continuously updating the content as you edit the files in FrameMaker. To make the workflow smoother, RoboHelp provides a visual indicator of whether the content in RoboHelp is out of synchronization with FrameMaker content or not." This is looking interesting. Anyone know of a good listserv devoted to discussing RoboHelp? -Michael -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:28 AM To: Richard Levine; framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com Subject: RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Richard Levine wrote: > I cannot really say that round-tripping is what I am looking > for. What I would really like to see a fully integrated > authoring environment that integrates multi-channel output > with a powerful editor that overcomes FrameMaker's many > limitations, thus obviating the need for import and export. > RoboHelp is a full featured HAT with printed output (PDF) > support. Why not just import my legacy Frame documents into > RoboHelp, and then use RoboHelp as my authoring environment? On the one hand, you complain about FrameMaker's "many limitations" (such as?). On the other hand, you're suggesting dumping it and settling for RoboHelp's printed output. Are you kidding? It sounds like you really _don't_ know what you're looking for -- you just know you don't like FrameMaker. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame in Windows emulation
I can confirm excellent results running a Windows VM in Ubuntu (6.X) using the VMWare Server installed through Synaptic. I can't say if Wine is better or worse than VMWare. With a Virtual Machine, you have higher system overhead to run the guest OS...but a much greater likelihood that everything will work as you are used to and as expected. With Wine, you get to work in Linux, have lower resource overhead, but some things may not work as expected/at all. I figured that *for me*, the approach with the least amount of risk was to use a VM. (The fact that Virtual Machines are understood by my colleagues was also a consideration. Linux is not (yet) a popular OS in my office.) -Michael -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Graeme Worth Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:43 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame in Windows emulation I am considering moving from a Windows to a Linux OS and running Framemaker V6 in a Windows emulation. I am amware of 1 person who has successfully run FM 7 under Ubuntu in this manner, and I'd welcome any further observations or comments anyone may have before I commit to this path - eg is Wine better or worse than VMWare, are particular flavours of Linux better or worse for this sort of thing, etc thanks Graeme ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
I wondered the same thing. From what it looks like to me, RoboHelp supports Framemaker in that it imports .fm and .mif files. Since they don't list Frame as a supported "authoring environment", it doesn't look like it is heavily integrated (/assumption). Here's what I gleaned off the website: "Support for Adobe FrameMaker 8 (Enhanced) Import multiple Adobe FrameMaker(r) files (MIF and FM) at one time with tables of contents, indexes, and glossaries. Apply conditional build tags or user-defined variables to content before importing or when it's time to publish. Map FrameMaker styles to RoboHelp styles when importing MIF files. Repurpose FrameMaker content for HTML publishing on import and use Topic Alias Markers to identify context-sensitive help." http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/productinfo/features/ "Which authoring environment does RoboHelp 7 support other than the built-in HTML editor? RoboHelp 7 supports Adobe Dreamweaver(r) CS3; Macromedia(r) Dreamweaver 8 from Adobe; Microsoft FrontPage 2003; HomeSite 5.5; and Microsoft Word 2007, Word 2003, Word 2002, and Word 2000." http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/productinfo/faq/ "Does RoboHelp 7 integrate with FrameMaker? You can import FrameMaker 8 MIF and FM files with style mapping, conditional tags, user-defined variables, and Captivate content intact. Additional RoboHelp 7 and FrameMaker integration can be experienced through new Adobe Technical Communication Suite software, which includes RoboHelp 7, FrameMaker 8, Captivate 3, and Adobe Acrobat(r) 3D Version 8 software." http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/productinfo/faq/ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:23 AM To: richard.melanson at us.tel.com Cc: framers at omsys.com; Frame2Acrobat at egroups.com; framers at frameusers.com Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a successful marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only been a short time since the two were developed under the same roof, so to speak. I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work together. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Recording DVDs
Yes. Once you import your VHS tapes as files, your DVD editing/burning software should allow you to make your own DVD menu. I used one of the programs that came with Nero Ultimate Edition to do just this with my wedding footage. There are better programs out there, but I was working with what I had on-hand. -Michael -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 3:27 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com Subject: OT: Recording DVDs I am sorry for the seriously off-topic post, but here goes. I need to record some VCR tapes onto DVD. I can buy hardware to do this, but is there a method for making a "menu" for the DVD so I can navigate to different sections on the DVD (like a commercial DVD)? Thanks in advance. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Job Posting: Part Time Technical Book Writer
Passing this on from HR in case anyone is interested. PART-TIME TECHNICAL BOOK WRITER MetaCommunications is seeking out a part-time candidate to write conceptual and technical reference books for print publication. Responsibilities include developing and writing printed books covering our software products (www.meta-comm.com) and their use and applicability for solving real business problems. Qualifications include technical computer knowledge, strong writing skills, editing, and self motivation. Experience with database-driven applications, application development, scripting, MS SQL Server, and FrameMaker preferred. Knowledge of how to plan, research, and write compelling technical concept and reference material is essential. Send resume and writing samples in confidence to: MetaCommunications, 1210 S. Gilbert, Iowa City, IA 52240 or employment at meta-comm.com.
Annoying FrameMaker Question
Hi Folks, I am using FrameMaker 6.x and am very annoyed with the size of the Show/Hide Conditional Text window. It isn't wide enough to show the full names of my conditions, and doesn't appear to allow resizing. Does anyone know if: 1) There is a way to scroll the conditions in the Show and Hide columns sideways? Arrow keys don't work. 2) Or, if there's a way to resize the entire window. This is a long shot, but FrameMaker has a long history of surprising me with capabilities I assumed it did not have... Thanks in advance. -Michael PS: If you know if more recent versions of FrameMaker have this same behavior, I'd be delighted to hear.
Annoying FrameMaker Question
Stuart, Carla Thank you both for your suggestions (sorry if I missed anyone else!). It didn't look like Modified FrameMaker Utilities Carla suggested would work with my version of FrameMaker. At Stuart's suggestion, I tried ResourceHacker and within minutes managed to modify and test the dialog in question. Wow. What a powerful tool! Thanks again for all your help and suggestions. -Michael -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:08 PM To: Michael O'Neill Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Annoying FrameMaker Question Michael O'Neill wrote: > Hi Folks, > > > > I am using FrameMaker 6.x and am very annoyed with the size of the > Show/Hide Conditional Text window. It isn't wide enough to show the > full names of my conditions, and doesn't appear to allow resizing. > > > > Does anyone know if: > > > > 1) There is a way to scroll the conditions in the Show and Hide > columns sideways? Arrow keys don't work. > > 2) Or, if there's a way to resize the entire window. This is a > long shot, but FrameMaker has a long history of surprising me with > capabilities I assumed it did not have... > Hi Michael, I've used ResourceHacker to modify a number of Frame's irritatingly undersized, tiny-fonted dialog boxes. Handle with care, but you should be able to fix your problem with it. The file you want to BACKUP!! before modifying is fmdlg.dll in C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.0\fminit\ http://www.snapfiles.com/get/resourcehacker.html (There are lots of other source URLs, just google it.) best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com If it makes things work more easily, why isn't it called lubrican?
Question about TOC, LOF, LOT
Yes LOF and LOT are both examples of front matter, but so is a ToC. IMHO, the only things (standard elements) that should come before the ToC are the Cover and the Legal page (if not at the end). Anything else will likely just be contrary to user expectations. With that said, there ARE exceptions to every rule, and this may be one (though on the surface, it doesn't sound like it). Before acquiescing, I'd ask for a better reason than the "front matter" one. Perhaps he can show you some examples of documents (external to your organization) that are organized his way? -Michael -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre Reagan Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:46 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT Hi all: My co-worker and I are debating about the order of the TOC, LOF and LOT. I say they are all tables of content, and should come in the order TOC, LOF, LOT (or LOT, LOF, I don't really mind, just TOC first). He says that LOF and LOT are front matter and are not called out in the TOC, so they should come before the TOC. Any comments? Thanks, Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs
You could probably do it with AutoIT, though it would take some practice to get right. If you have an engineer to work with, they could probably make quick work out of it (after complaining about how AutoIT is too much like Visual Basic) with your help. http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/ I managed to hack together automation for many of my tasks. -Michael -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:17 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs Framers, A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly that will do the following: - Pull FM files and books from their version control system (PVCS) - Maybe set conditions (not sure if this is needed yet) - Update the books - Create PDFs of books and some stand-alone files - Put the resulting PDFs in a specific place for the nightly build It seems like fmbatch can do this, but I think it only works with FM for Unix (they have FM for Win). Can any of the other FDK tools do this? (An in-house developer will likely write the script.) What about FrameScript? What tool is best? Thanks for your help! ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Windows command for moving a window or dialog box
One additional point: If you can't seem to move the dialog or window into a viewable area using the arrow keys, you can follow Stuart's instructions except when it comes to using the arrow keys, you can press the Up arrow key ONCE (any arrow key will probably work) and then move your mouse around (don't click!). -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:55 PM To: Rick Quatro Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Windows command for moving a window or dialog box Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Framers, > > I have the case of the missing dialog box. What is the Windows keyboard > shortcut for moving a dialog box or window with the arrow keys? Thank you > very much. > If your dialog box is off-monitor, make it the active window by choosing its command from the menu (or by typing the keyboard shortcut), then type Alt+spacebar to activate the title bar menu, and type M for Move. (Important! Do not move your mouse!) Experiment with holding down different arrow keys until the dialog box comes back into view. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com I'll stop saying Microsoft is arrogant when Windows stops saying "Welcome" and instead asks "May I?" ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Recovery
Here's what I would do: 1) Back up a copy of both the original and the recovered versions to someplace safe. 2) Open the recovered version in FrameMaker. 3) Open the original version in FrameMaker (might have to force it). 4) Compare the differences between the two versions using FrameMaker's compare feature. (File-> Utilities-> Compare Documents) Select the "Summary and Composite Documents" option when doing so. 5) See which version has the most up-to-date information. Save that version over the original version. Note: I just sort of developed this method by intuition. I'd be glad to hear if anyone does something different/there are problems with my method/easier ways to determine whether or not to go with a recovery version of a .fm file. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harold Winberg Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:59 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Recovery Hello Framers I am building a Book and got the Book Error Report saying Couldn't open file because a more recent autosaved or recovered version exists. There is a recovered version in the folder. What is the safe thing to do?? Les Winberg ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Export a FM book to single Word file?
You do need Acrobat Professional in order to save the PDF with commenting enabled for Adobe Reader. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tina Ricks Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:01 PM To: 'Frame Users' Subject: Export a FM book to single Word file? I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put them back together by hand in Word. I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame RTF export. I've been researching the commenting features in Acrobat 8, and I keep coming across this statement: "Commenting tools are only available in PDFs that have commenting enabled." OK. but it looks as if I can't enable commenting rights from the PDFs that come out of FM8's File > Save as PDF feature (unless I'm missing something). I don't really want to buy full Acrobat just for this feature. Sending an enormous zip file of little Word documents isn't very efficient for the reader on the other end. There's no RTF option in File > Save Book As. Ideas? Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides tina at trialguides.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Export a FM book to single Word file?
At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html: Q. Can I mark up and review files in Adobe Reader? A. Yes, if this functionality has been rights-enabled by the PDF author. Adobe Acrobat or Adobe LiveCycle software lets PDF authors turn on special commenting tools in Adobe Reader on a document-by-document basis. This capability enables Adobe Reader 7.0 users to easily review and mark up PDF files with a variety of commenting and markup tools. You can add sticky notes; indicate text edits; and highlight, cross out, or underline text. You can also add premade or dynamic stamps. Q. Can I add comments to a PDF file with Adobe Reader? A. PDF authors using Adobe LiveCycle(tm) enterprise server and design software can activate special features in their documents that provide additional functionality. These enabled Adobe PDF files allow people with Adobe Reader to save the file to a local hard drive, fill out forms, add comments and other markups, share it with others, and submit a completed document electronically. In addition, Adobe PDF files can be enabled to allow people to digitally sign, certify, and authenticate a document. The first answer does _not_ specify that Acrobat Professional is required to turn on the special commenting tools when the PDF is opened in Adobe Reader. The second answer is more specific, requiring "Acrobat Professional or Adobe LiveCycle". In either case, Acrobat Professional will do the job...but depending on what you want your reviewers to do with Adobe Reader, you _may_ be able to get by with a less expensive version of Acrobat. -Michael -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tina Ricks Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:09 PM To: 'Frame Users' Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file? Thanks for input everyone. It seems that buying Acrobat Pro for the comments feature is the most stable and the cheapest answer, and my Word-loving reviewers will have to live with it. If I give them the choice of reviewing one PDF file with comments vs. 32 separate Word files, they'll choose the PDF. Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides tina at trialguides.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Export a FM book to single Word file?
Sweet. Just wanted to make sure I didn?t get yelled at for suggesting the most expensive option if cheaper alternatives existed. -Michael From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:23 PM To: Michael O'Neill; Tina Ricks; Frame Users Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file? Michale O'Neill write (in part): > At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of > conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to > allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From > http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html: No real confusion except for the fact that the FAQ page clearly has not been updated since Acrobat 7.0. If you look at the product feature comparison matrix for Acrobat 8.0 http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html you will clearly see that the feature described as: Enable Adobe Reader? users to participate in reviews with complete commenting and markup tools, including sticky notes, highlighter, lines, shapes, and stamps is only supported by the Professional and 3D versions of the Acrobat product suite. Fred Ridder Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail?-get your "fix". Check it out. <http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx>
Marketing a product: which language for the documentation
Here's my 2 cents: 1) Are their rules, laws, or regulations governing this in each country it will be sold in (note: type of product might have an impact here) For example, in the USA there _may_ be FDA regulations about documentation localization for medical devices...FCC regulations about broadcast equipment documentation and telecommunications product documentation, etc... 2) The marketing decision for the product I'm sure at one time or another, most of us English speakers have had the experience of assembling furniture/children's toys/gadgets/etc... where the instructions are not in English. This definitely contributes to the user impression of the product with regards to quality. It also might have a relationship to extra costs for support, returns, malfunctions, etc... for the company selling the product. In many companies, Marketing depts. weigh these variables and decide. > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of mathieu jacquet > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:52 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Marketing a product: which language for the documentation > > > Hi to all, > > here is a question from a client: he's just developed a new GPS-based > product in France, has a "getting started" and "user manual" written (I'm > currently working on it) in French and would like to know if he is > supposed to have them translated... > > I answered "yes, you have to have them translated into the languages of > countries where you want the product marketted". But I am not 100% sure of > the answer. > > The other question is: does the client have to have both manuals > translated? > > Do you have any idea of official (governmental) documents about this kind > of issue (Europe and/or US)? > > Thank a lot! > > Mathieu. > _ > Faites vous de nouveaux amis gr?ce ? l'annuaire des profils Messenger ! > http://home.services.spaces.live.com/search/?page=searchresults=true > rmId=AdvPeopleSearch=SPXFRM=3=2=0=Nom+pub > lic===Pr%C3%A9nom > e=Nom=Lieu=Profession=a > mis=Rechercher > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta- > comm.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chickenoregg?
> > If Jim Owens is right, and there are desirable help features that can't > be implemented via FM, then these are shortcomings in the tools that > ought to be put on the enhancement request list. But, IMHO, "make the > HTML roundtrippable" should not be one of those requests. > Every tool has it's shortcomings... One that was a deal-breaker for us when evaluating TCS was the ability to convert step by step procedures in FrameMaker to drop-down sections in RH. When we looked, the only way to implement drop-down text in RH was to edit and maintain the content in RH. Anyone know if this has changed?
Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)
One possible workflow would be: FrameMaker-> ePublisher-> Wiki (MoinMoin, MediaWiki, something else?). Wiki would allow users to add comments, enhance topics as they see fit. However, I don't think there is a workflow for round-tripping. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Crimmin, Peter Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:49 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?) [cross-posted to TECHWR-L mailing list] Can anyone recommend technologies to do the following: * Hosted documentation, available on the internet as a web service. * Each doc topic allows users to add comments. (e.g. "Here's a better example to do this task...") * Management tools to moderate user comments, and to handle documentation updates (retaining the comments). * Authoring tools to produce said documentation. The open source community exploits these technologies. How do they do it? I have an inkling for a solution: FrameMaker>DocBook>ePublisher? Thanks for your ideas ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)
One additional note, MoinMoin wiki can be configured to allow users to output content as/via/through (not sure of the right terminology) DocBook. I haven't explored this yet to see whether that's HTML output or PDF output (or both). This is something I'd like to know more about, as to me it would be pretty compelling for us to take care of the source->wiki workflow and let users generate their own PDFs on demand from the wiki, if they so desire. -Michael -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Crimmin, Peter Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:49 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?) [cross-posted to TECHWR-L mailing list] Can anyone recommend technologies to do the following: * Hosted documentation, available on the internet as a web service. * Each doc topic allows users to add comments. (e.g. "Here's a better example to do this task...") * Management tools to moderate user comments, and to handle documentation updates (retaining the comments). * Authoring tools to produce said documentation. The open source community exploits these technologies. How do they do it? I have an inkling for a solution: FrameMaker>DocBook>ePublisher? Thanks for your ideas ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
I use Index Tools Professional from Silicon Prairie Software. By and large, I am happy with it. It has sped up indexing tremendously...and makes it pretty darn easy to see what index tags are currently in place. I haven't tried other tools. This was the first we tried and it was such a clear improvement that we jumped and went with it. http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html If you have specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them. -Michael -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Collier Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 3:31 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker? We are currently using FrameMaker 6.0 but are going to move to FrameMaker 8 (Structured) within the next year. We are in desperate need of a indexing tool. What are your recommendations? I've done some research but I'd like to hear what's working well in the field. Thanks in advance for your input. Jen Collier Horizon Software International, LLC Technical Publications Manager 770-554-6353 ext. 283 www.horizonsoftware.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Smart way to achieve goal in FM
OK Folks, Here's a basic question for the gurus/experts. I've been using FM for a number of years now, but recently I'm trying to do something that I haven't done before so I'm not sure of the best way to achieve my objective. Context: The document I am authoring from scratch is an entry-level type document that deals mostly with system concepts and strategies. It will link to already extant procedures in the online help, installation guides, etc... The document will be delivered as both a stand-alone PDF, and as part of a merged help set produced with WWP2003. Goal: One of the things my manager wants is a threaded/running "Example/Scenario" section that will appear in various portions of the book that will explain the concepts in terms of an actual example. Basically, this means introducing the Example scenario in the beginning of the guide and corresponding sections of text in various and subsequent chapters. I want this content to appear with a light gray background. How do I do this? Here's what I've thought of: Inserting a one-cell table with a gray background wherever this type of content appears. Problem (which may have its own solution): The one cell table is essentially 1 row, and it doesn't appear that you can break a row across a page. Adding a text frame for this content (from the graphics toolbar). Seems do-able, as I can control the dimensions and background color of the text frame. Only problem is WWP tends to put text frames at the end of the chapter and not at the location in which they appear in the FM document. Anyone have a good solution for this? Like I said, we've never wanted to do this type of thing before, so I am likely missing something obvious. I'm not averse to using the help or other references...but my searches thus far have been hindered by not knowing a good keyword to start with. Alternatively, am I missing something obvious? Is there a paragraph style for background color that I've managed to miss repeatedly? -Michael -=- FrameMaker 6.x -=-
Smart way to achieve goal in FM
Thanks everyone, for the suggestions! I went with the single-column, multiple rows table approach. Now I get to beat WWP into submission! -Michael -Original Message- From: quills at airmail.net [mailto:qui...@airmail.net] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:34 PM To: Michael O'Neill Cc: framers Subject: Re: Smart way to achieve goal in FM I'd make a table format and set it up that way. Then you don't have any manual operations other than adding an additional row cell to break across pages. Scott At 2:08 PM -0400 9/12/08, Art Campbell wrote: >The way I'd deal with it is your table method. The usual way to allow >or force row/table breaks across pages is to use a multi-row single >column table with reasonable size text snippets in each row. Then use >custom ruling to eliminate the inter-row rules so that it appears to >be a single row. Yes, you have to do it manually, but if it's not a >big deal unless you're constantly doing twiddles to the content that >affect the size of the cells. > >Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent >and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358
Runnning Windows on Mac news
I just watched someone here at the office run Parallels and switch between OS X and Windows. It looked pretty slick, especially with the copy and paste support between the two Operating Systems. He said setup was pretty painless and unbelievably fast. He was running Win2003 and OS X on a Powerbook Pro (dual core). I only witnessed, and didn't have time to work with, anything myself...but it seemed to be very fast in both operating systems. Of course, I wouldn't want to run Photoshop in Windows and Final Cut in OS X at the same time... ;P Pretty slick and impressive nonetheless. -Michael -Original Message- From: quills at airmail.net [mailto:qui...@airmail.net] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:32 PM To: Pat Christenson; framers List Subject: Re: Runnning Windows on Mac news At 3:58 PM -0700 4/13/06, Pat Christenson wrote: >The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a >beta software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, >not just XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have >to reboot when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You >have to "network" them to share files. The free download is >available at http://www.parallels.com/. > >This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the "I don't wanna >buy a PC just to run FrameMaker" folks (of which I am one, although >I already have both a Mac and a PC). > >Pat Christenson Boot Camp enables you to run Windows XP natively. The beta copy already has the native drivers. There is no speed degradation. It is not emulation. Parallels seems to be virtulization, but not emulation. It is a true beta and does not yet have all the drivers needed. The caveat is that you need an Intel Mac to run these programs. Scott Turner ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Based on what you wrote, and assuming that the graphics you have to edit are not Vectors, I would say Photoshop is the tool for you. You are describing editing pixels, and Photoshop would likely be more appropriate than Illustrator for these tasks. If budget is a concern, you can also try: PaintShopPro $79 US http://www.corel.com/PaintShopPro Free evaluation version available Win only the Gimp **FREE** http://www.gimp.org Win, Mac, Linux, Unix, etc.. -Michael -Original Message- From: Cris Reeser [mailto:c...@magma-da.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:58 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OS 9 Applications on Tiger
For what it's worth: I'm running 10.4.8 and still using some classic applications. When setting up the Mac, I had to install the Classic environment as well. -Michael -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sam Beard Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 3:03 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Ann, As far as I'm aware, Tiger does NOT support OS 9 in any form. Mac OS X up to somewhere around 10.3 or so WOULD run OS 9 apps in, basically, emulation form in what was known as Classic. However, OS X 10.4 dropped that provision, as far as I know. But, then again, if an Apple rep told you this, it might be true. Was the rep one of the sales phone reps or a tech support rep, either at an Apple store or via the phone support? If there's an Apple store near you, you might consider dropping in there and asking them about your situation. The people staffing Apple's genius bar are pretty knowledgeable and, usually, more than willing to help out, and NOT just because that's what they get paid for, either! Sam Beard Technical Communications - Special Projects CTES - LP 936 521-2241 -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+sam.beard=ctes@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+sam.beard=ctes.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ann Zdunczyk Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:48 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com Subject: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Hi All, I have a G5 running Panther that I purchased several years ago. A purchased an upgrade for one of my applications and it requires OS 10.4 (Tiger) to run. I was told by the Apple rep that Tiger would run my OS 9 applications on this machine just fine. Since I do not have the New Mac technology, which I understand will not run OS 9 appications, I should be OK. So I am asking the people on this list that work on Macs if there are any problems that they have running into running OS 9 applications with Tiger. I know you all will tell me the UNVARNISHED truth rather than a rep trying to sell me the software. So please let me know of any problems that you have run into with Tiger. Thanks All Z ** Ann Zdunczyk President a2z Publishing, Inc. Language Layout & Translation Consulting Phone: (336)922-1271 Fax: (336)922-4980 Cell: (336)456-4493 http://www.a2z-pub.com ** ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as sam.beard at ctes.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sam.beard%40ctes.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OS 9 Applications on Tiger
I'm running this on a Mac Mini with a G4 proc. It's been a long time since I set it up, but as best as I can remember, I installed the Classic environment as part of the initial setup and configuration of Tiger. This required the use of a "Classic" environment disk (again, if I remember correctly). When I try to open a Classic (OS9) application, the Classic environment opens automatically within OS X and the application I originally tried to open runs within this. I don't boot to Classic or do any dual booting shenanigans. In the System Preferences, there is a "Classic" icon under "System" that allows me to set various Classic options, including starting when logging in, warning before starting Classic, various memory usage settings for Classic, and more. OS 9/Classic does NOT appear as an option when under Startup Disk preferences. Sorry I can't provide too many details. It's been a long time since I initially set it up and I use Classic less and less frequently every week that passes. At least I know that in at least my circumstance, Classic does work on Tiger. -Michael -Original Message- From: Sam Beard [mailto:sam.be...@ctes.com] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 4:49 PM To: Michael O'Neill; swhite at alamark.com Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Michael and Scott, This is intriguing to me. My understanding was that Classic, and therefore OS 9, wouldn't run on any of the later machines, particularly any Intel-based machines. Are either of you running one of these? What machines are you running? Are you running OS 9 in emulation of some sort or as a stand-alone OS, that you can choose upon start-up? In other words, more details, please! ;-P Sam Beard Technical Communications - Special Projects CTES - LP 936 521-2241 Scott White wrote: We run Tiger and you have to take an OS9 disc and load it as well. However, the Macs that run both windows and OS10 run Frame for the PC just fine. We are using it here. FYI. And Michael O'Neill wrote: For what it's worth: I'm running 10.4.8 and still using some classic applications. When setting up the Mac, I had to install the Classic environment as well. -Michael -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sam Beard Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 3:03 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Ann, As far as I'm aware, Tiger does NOT support OS 9 in any form. Mac OS X up to somewhere around 10.3 or so WOULD run OS 9 apps in, basically, emulation form in what was known as Classic. However, OS X 10.4 dropped that provision, as far as I know. But, then again, if an Apple rep told you this, it might be true. Was the rep one of the sales phone reps or a tech support rep, either at an Apple store or via the phone support? If there's an Apple store near you, you might consider dropping in there and asking them about your situation. The people staffing Apple's genius bar are pretty knowledgeable and, usually, more than willing to help out, and NOT just because that's what they get paid for, either! Sam Beard Technical Communications - Special Projects CTES - LP 936 521-2241 -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+sam.beard=ctes@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+sam.beard=ctes.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ann Zdunczyk Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:48 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com Subject: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Hi All, I have a G5 running Panther that I purchased several years ago. A purchased an upgrade for one of my applications and it requires OS 10.4 (Tiger) to run. I was told by the Apple rep that Tiger would run my OS 9 applications on this machine just fine. Since I do not have the New Mac technology, which I understand will not run OS 9 appications, I should be OK. So I am asking the people on this list that work on Macs if there are any problems that they have running into running OS 9 applications with Tiger. I know you all will tell me the UNVARNISHED truth rather than a rep trying to sell me the software. So please let me know of any problems that you have run into with Tiger. Thanks All Z ** Ann Zdunczyk President a2z Publishing, Inc. Language Layout & Translation Consulting Phone: (336)922-1271 Fax: (336)922-4980 Cell: (336)456-4493 http://www.a2z-pub.com ** ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as sam.beard at ctes.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/op
Acrobat / FrameMaker conflicts during install
Is it only the .exe files that are missing, or are all the dll's missing to? If it's only the .exe files, you might try creating your own empty text files with the same file names as the missing .exe files. Maybe the uninstaller just wants to remove a file with that name, and doesn't actually have to open it or look inside the file. If all the .dlls are gone too, then obviously your headache is much bigger. Just a suggestion while you wait for IT... -Michael -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of poshedly at bellsouth.net Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:36 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Acrobat / FrameMaker conflicts during install My client company just went ahead and bit the bullet and forked out around $800 or so for FrameMaker 8.0. (Does this mean that Frame 9.0 will be $900, Frame 10.0 will be $1,000, etc, etc?). We also bought Acrobat Professional 8.0 as well. I want to do a "clean" installation but before I do, I have some concerns because of what is on the terminal that I "inherited" (with Windows XP Office and the service packs, etc.). It already has on it the folders (and their subfolders) - but NOT the executable application files - for Acrobat 6.0 and 7.0. Without the executable files, I can't do an uninstall via Control Panel. So apparently, my only option is to simply do what you're NOT supposed to do - just delete the Acrobat 6.0 and 7.0 folders. Ooh, but that grates on me because I fear that bits and pieces of either or both Acrobats are already strewn hither and thither throughout the Windows XP operating system and will cause problems later on down the line. Or not. (Remember the good old days, when a program was all in one folder, I mean "directory"? Hah! We'll never see THAT stuff again.) I already found out the hard way how nice and courteous (NOT!!) one Acrobat program is to another after first installing FrameMaker 8.0 (along with its PDFMaker feature) and then NOT being able to install Acrobat 8.0 afterwards. (I kept getting a message after the Acrobat 8.0 setup procedure was well into progress that "Setup has detected that you already have a more functional product installed. Setup will now terminate.") So I uninstalled FM8.0 and its plug-ins and the Acrobat 8.0 install moved along much further than before (I had to cancel it, however, until my IT guy gets in here with the serial number). So with FM8.0 and Acrobat8.0 currently off the drive, what to do about the previously installed Acrobat 6.0 and 7.0 folders in light of their missing executable application files. Just delete them and proceed with the Acrobat 8.0 and then FM 8.0 installations? BTW, the Adobe docs really play up the purchased support plans (even for "defective products"), leading me to believe that free telephone support for initial setup is no more. But somewhere, I did find that there apparently is 90-day free phone support for initial setup problems. Am I correct on this? -- Ken in Atlanta
