Re: TenFourFox Won't Boot on G4 Gigabit...

[James E. Therrault]

On Feb 3, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Ken Daggett wrote:

> 
> On 3 Feb 2018, at 10:53:28 AM PST, James E. Therrault wrote:
> 
>> Up to recently, no problems but when updating to the latest version, it goes 
>> through the motions but no joy.
> ---
> Perhaps you have wrong version? It is easy to get a G5 or G3 version by 
> mistake.
> 
> Ken
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Not so in this case, 7450 "e" processor, etc has worked fine for former 
versions but the latest,  no go..

JT



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TenFourFox Won't Boot on G4 Gigabit...

[James E. Therrault]

Up to recently, no problems but when updating to the latest version, it goes 
through the motions but no joy.

TIA

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Re: Performa 5300 flashing disk with ?

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IIRC, sometime a system folder can be re-blessed by simply removing he System 
then putting in back into the Sys folder..

JT



On Mar 6, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> 
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Valter Prahlad  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Il giorno 04/03/17 19.30, "Alex Ander" ha scritto:
>> 
>>> I decided to give an old Performa 5300 a go.
>>> the built in monitor comes up and a disk with a question mark that keeps
>>> flashing.
>> That means it cannot find a bootable System.
>> It's either the hard disk is dead, or there's no bootable System on it.
> 
> Disk with question mark is ‘I cannot find a bootable volume’ Either dead 
> drive, or boot sectors are messed up.
> 
> Folder with a question mark is ‘I found a bootable volume, but no blessed 
> system Folder’
> 
> If you can scrounge up one of these 
> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1HE0JE6610> (or just buy 
> that one :-) you can pull the drive from the performa to check it out.
> 
> Those are very hand little tools to have around to diagnose drive issues.
> 
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Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 1 topic

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Agreed!

Plus you have the "Classic" option as well...



On Feb 18, 2017, at 5:44 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote:

> Il giorno 18/02/17 12.08, "Jörg" ha scritto:
> 
>> I still prefer the latest Tiger version for MDDs. Faster and you have full
>> support of TenFourFox.
> 
> I second OSX 10.4 Tiger.
> IMHO the best OSX version for G4s and G5s.
> 
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Re: Slideshow software

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On Feb 7, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

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>> On Feb 7, 2017, at 11:17 AM, Len Gerstel  wrote:
>> 
>>> You can use the slide-show screen saver on them and unplug the keyboard & 
>>> mouse….
>> 
>> DOH, didn’t think about that. Thanks.
>> 
>> Last screensaver I had running had a toaster with wings (and for you young 
>> un’s, it wasn’t on Red Bull). Now get off my lawn
> 
> ROFL! Mine was the venerable fireworks one, which was pre-"After Dark"… 
> Someone ressurected the AD Toasters for a little while 
>  
> doesn’t work after Yosemite, sadly.
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I liked the "bad dog" version where a mutt would tear up, re-arrange icons and 
squirt the trash can...

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Re: Should I upgrade my 533 MHz Power Mac G4 to Leopard?

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My 2¢ worth...  I have a Powerbook G4 1.25GHz running Tiger 10.4.9 and a 
Powerbook 1.67GHz running Leopard 10.5x and the slower machine is faster and 
more stable.  Sometimes the latest is not the greatest...

JT in Austin, TX



On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote:

> Since you are not concerned about classic mode then it should be fine.   I do 
> not know what you expect to achieve with the upgrade if Tiger is working well 
> for you.  Saying that, I upgraded my 933 G4 to Leopard and it is good and 
> stable (10.5.3) -  Although I DO miss my Classic applications now.  Leopard 
> boots a little faster but many people I have spoken to said Tiger runs 
> smoother and sometimes faster on the G4’s.  Check some online comparisons.   
> Tiger having all the improvements made from OS 10.1, 10.2, & 10.3 ran nicely 
> for me. 
> 
> Personally on a 533 MHZ machine I think I would stick with Tiger unless you 
> really want/need the new features in Leopard.  Ram?  I do not remember what 
> the capacity of the 533 is but the more the better especially if you upgrade.
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:38 PM, JackMacWindows  wrote:
>> 
>> I had asked this on the Leopard Group, but nothing was showing up, and 
>> nobody has posted there in ages anyways.
>> 
>> I have a Power Mac G4 Digital Audio with a G4 clocked at 533 MHz. I 
>> installed OS X Leopard on an iPod to test, and it seems like it runs 
>> somewhat fine (other than my fan clicking, which does not have anything to 
>> do with Leopard). I currently have Tiger as the main operating system.
>> 
>> Should I upgrade the Tiger installation to Leopard? Loss of Classic Mode 
>> should not affect me because I have a working OS 9 installation I can boot 
>> to. Can I also keep that OS 9 installation on the same partition?
>> 
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Re: Adobe CS2 licence broken

[James E. Therrault]

I would think that you simply have to reinstall CS2 from the original download. 
When I did so when it became free several years ago, I installed it on my old 
G4 Gigabit, a later G4 1.25GHz PowerBook and even on my late 2009 Mac Mini 
running Snow Leopard.  The original download included the license number that 
makes the installation permanent.

HTH

JT



On Sep 9, 2016, at 1:46 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

> I gave up trying to leverage freebies when I decided to at least try to be 
> serious about what I was doing.
> 
> I could not afford the Adobe programs I wanted. Suffered years of 
> disappointment. Thought I would have to save to buy just one. Actually did 
> get Dreamweaver CS2. Got some Adobe access through the University, taking 
> classes ( you could register as a Senior guest perhaps?)
> Wound up using GIMP, work got done but not in a happy way. And open source 
> video proggies never worked for me.
> 
> I accept Adobe Cloud as the blessing it is. Cheap enough  because it keeps me 
> from doing stupid things with the money.
> 
> I recommend it. 
> Having programs that ACTUALLY WORK , can do the many things better since CS2, 
> with support is VERY satisfying.
> 
> YOUR WORK WILL GREATLY IMPROVE
> 
> YOU WILL HAVE A LOT LESS TO WORRY ABOUT
> 
> 
> 
> Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
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> http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer
> https://www.youtube.com/user/fluxstringer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Jörg Duurkoop  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've been using the Adobe CS2 suite for many years without problems. My MDD 
> had crashed recently and after I put my recent CCC backup back on my crashed 
> volume I cannot use CS2 anymore. The app tells me that my trial period has 
> expired but when I try to activate it again no cigar. The server is not 
> online ...
> 
> What gives? Isn't good ole CS2 free nowadays? Any comments? Thanks a lot.
> 
> Best regards, Jörg.
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Re: PowerMac G4 Single 1.25 (June 2003 Mirror Drive Doors) Software Restore Discs

[James E. Therrault]

On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Xan wrote:

> Hi there. This might be a far fetched request given how old these Machines 
> are these days but I don't suppose anyone's got the original software restore 
> discs for one of these G4's have they? I believe (though I cannot seem to 
> confirm it) there were two discs distributed with these Macs, a software 
> restore DVD that I believed contained a version of OS X (probably 10.2.x), a 
> OS 9 classic environment installer and Apple Hardware Test (I think v 2.0.2). 
> The second disc was a CD that had extra software and utilities, no idea what.
> 
> What I'm looking for really is information about the discs. I bought my MDD 
> in 2009 secondhand and it didn't come with any discs. Someone, a long time 
> ago, did very kindly send me a disc image of the restore disc for their MDD 
> that was also a single 1.25Ghz like mine, and I've used that burned to a 
> DVD-R for years (and it works nicely). The thing they didn't tell me was what 
> the part number of the disc was. They also didn't furnish me with that second 
> CD or what was on it of course so I've often wondered what was on it (though 
> I didn't know it existed until recently).
> 
> What I'd be most appreciative of is any and all part numbers listed on the 
> discs if anyone has the original set, so I know what to look out for when 
> perusing places like ebay. I'd also as stated like to know what was on that 
> second CD.
> 
> Many thanks!
> 


You can find full 10.3 and 10.4 OS 10 disks on eBay and the 10.4 will include 
provisions to install the "Classic" feature.

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Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator

[James E. Therrault]

...or maybe the latest Intel machine that will boot on Snow Leopard running 
Rossetta.

JT


On Aug 18, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Aug 8, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote:
 
 How to run Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, 
 using VirtualBos as a PPC G5 emulator
 
 You cannot. You can get it running in PearPC on a Windows VM in Virtualbox, 
 but it's very limited in functionality, since you cannot (or at least I could 
 not) ever get the virtual networking to work. 
 
 Far better and simpler to find a used G5 to run it on...
 

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Re: MDD G4 Start-up Issue

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Spraying the switch with electronic cleaner or WD-40 can't hurt...

JT




On Aug 17, 2014, at 5:15 PM, 'Brian Fuelleman' via G-Group wrote:

 I'd take a close look to see if the internal connections for the switch are 
 clean and intact.
 
 
 On Sunday, August 17, 2014 10:01 AM, 'John Carmonne' via G-Group 
 g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Michael McMurtrey wrote:
 
  Lately, my MCC G4 refuses to start by means of the start button on the 
  front of the computer. I have to open the case and reset the PMU in order 
  to re-start. I suspected the PRAM battery might be bad, but it's a new one 
  that is outputting 3.67 volts. What's up?
  

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Re: iMac G5/2ghz 20 random sleep

[James E. Therrault]

On Jun 14, 2014, at 7:51 PM, les wrote:

 
 
 On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:51:33 PM UTC-7, les wrote:
 Hi All,
 My iMac G5 OS X 10.4.11 has been running flawlessly for 11/2 yrs. Suddenly it 
 randomly completely shuts down. I can start with power switch, but it soon 
 shuts down again. I opened the case, cleaned thoroughly and inspected caps. 
 All pristine. Power supply appears clean from outside.I am hesitant to open 
 it. Does this indicate a PSU problem? Can it be replaced safely? 
 Thanks, Les 
 
 Thanks Cameron Kaiser, Jim Scott, and Clark Martin for your valuable insight. 
 Heat does not seem to be an issue as determined by Temp. Monitor. Yes, it 
 shuts off as if power plug was disconnected. No warning, no logout screen 
 etc. Jim thanks for the detailed reply. I am encouraged to swap out the PSU.


Before you go through all that trouble, spray the switch assembly with WD-40.  
You might be glad that you did..

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Re: Browser g4

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As far as I know, Flash is not supported.

JT


On Jan 7, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Kroffi Media wrote:

 Thank you Ken, very helpful info
 Now it seems adobe flash player is the problem. i cant open itunes or play 
 music from G4.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 On Monday, January 6, 2014 6:55:58 AM UTC-8, Ken Daggett wrote:
 
 On 6 Jan  2014, at 06:48:12 AM PST, Kroffi Media wrote: 
 
  My G4 Browser needs to be updated but i cant find anything that is   
  compatible.anybody have an idea? 
 -- 
 TenFourFoxG4 
 
 http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ 
 
 Ken 

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Lost Connections...

[James E. Therrault]

Is it possible to connect my Powerbook G4 (10.4) to my Mac Mini (10.6) direct 
via Airport?  I seem to remember doing so a few years ago but I can' get either 
to recognize the other now.

Both have sharing turned on..

Thanks,  JT in Austin

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Re: Installing New HDD in my G5

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On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Dec 21, 2013, at 4:24 AM, Geke gevangaste...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 @Greg: I guess what you say about copying over the OS is about Apple's Drive 
 Utility. But CCC can clone system disks independent of what the Mac is 
 booted from.
 
 You can use the ‘Restore’ function in Disk Utility to clone any drive mounted 
 on the system to anything other than the boot volume.
 
 http://www.amazon.com/USB-SATA-5-25-Cable-Adapter/dp/B000YJBL78 is a must 
 have tool for anyone doing things like this. Use restore to clone the 250 to 
 the 500, then use it to restore the 40 to the 250, pull the 40 install the 
 500 and boot.
 
 -- 
 Bruce Johnson


A few years ago when I bought a Mac Mini, I also purchased a SATA/IDE to USB 
2.0 Adapter.  I haven't used it much but it is a godsend when I need it!

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Re: Your Browser has been locked up! Send $300 to...

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Sounds like a variation of the old Nigerian scam...

JT


On Dec 6, 2013, at 2:31 PM, smac0031 wrote:

 I was surfing the web last week and my browser locked up and this popup 
 appeared. These clowns wanted $300.
 
 Earlier that day I had seen a Tekzilla that mentioned something about 
 Ransomware. According to what Tekzilla described this is where a program gets 
 installed on your machine where everything gets password encrypted and the 
 perpetrators won't unencrypt your system without you forking over $300.
 
 I went to force quit and quit TenFourFox. Then I shut down my machine and 
 unplugged my router from the cable modem. I then powered up my machine and 
 backed up my document folder and then I reconnected to my cable modem and 
 changed some passwords.
 
 I really haven't noticed anything unusual other than I was playing Master of 
 Orion under system 9 and and somehow the mouse button got stuck wide open. My 
 system still doesn't like Flash much and Javascript seems to make it wheeze.
 
 I thought any virus or trojan wouldn't be able to deal with a DA G4 as they 
 are elderly and nearly extinct. I never considered there would be any viable 
 threat to a machine like this.
 
 I used to run Norton Antivirus a long time ago, I think it was on my SuperMac 
 S900. I don't think I've ever run any antivirus on this G4. Is there 
 antivirus available for for a PowerPC nowadays?
 
 Is this a real threat?
 
 Mark Murphy
 
 

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Re: reusing my thesis

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The Mac II dates to 1987-88 and by 1996, Apple was dealing strictly with PPC 
code (unless you had a Mac II from earlier days)

More important is the system software used, (System 7.xxx???).

And yes, if you can find a way of getting that far back, definitely go for a 
PDF conversion.

BTW, you might be able to find someone with an earlier Mac that used System 9.1 
or so and is pretty well backward compatible.

JT



On Oct 21, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Bruce Ryan wrote:

 Hi Andreas
 
 IIRC, the file dates from 1996 - around the time of mac classic and Mac II. 
 
 Someone has offered to translate the file into a modern version of Word. If 
 that fails, I will try to find Office 2001, which is more likely to be on a 
 CD and thus avoid the floppy-drive blues. The PITA is that my floppy drive 
 won't read by 800K Word 4 installer floppies.
 
 Absolutely agree about output to PDF - if only I'd known in 1996.
 
 thanks indeed
 
 Bruce
 
 On 21 Oct 2013, at 17:51, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote:
 
 --  Original message  --
 Subject: reusing my thesis
 Date:Monday, 21. October 2013
 From:Bruce Ryan bruce.r...@me.com
 To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 
 So, is there any way of opening the Word file.
 
 Word 4… sounds like this is a Mac OS 7/8/9 Application.
 
 The best way is propably to try opening it with Office:mac 2001 or so 
 because 
 this should be able to read your files correctly.
 
 And if you then save it in the new format, you may be able to open it using 
 Office:mac 2011…
 
 What I would do is to install Word 4/5 inside Classic on, say, the G3 Prismo 
 or on 9.2 on the PowerBook G3.
 
 Printing/Saving files as PDF is always a good idea, as is saving it in a 
 standard format like RTF and RTFD.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Text_Format
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Text_Format_Directory
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Browers that don't crash

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Wow!  I can understand why things get bogged down.

Why don't you just create a news folder in the toolbar launch from their one 
at a time when you need them?

I wouldn't dream of opening a list like that on my 1.25 GHz G4 laptop or even 
my late '09 Intel Mac Mini...

JT in Austin



On Jul 24, 2013, at 8:49 AM, smac0031 wrote:

 This is usually where this starts.
 
 These are the bunch of tabs I launch when I start checking news.
 
 http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=entab=wn
 http://www.economist.com/
 http://www.reuters.com/
 http://www.cnn.com/
 http://www.foxnews.com/
 http://www.drudgereport.com/
 http://cnews.canoe.ca/
 http://www.spiegel.de/international/
 https://login.yahoo.com/
 http://www.google.com/movies?near=49007hl=enei=utsyT4D7NabO2AXHxNiwBw
 http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Kalamazoo+MI+49008:4:US
 
 These tabs all open and the trouble comes when I close some off and launch 
 things that pique my interest. It doesn't seem to make much difference how 
 many tabs are open but it slows the system down so I shut them down as fast 
 as possible and try to get to as few tabs as I can.
 
 I try not to run videos. There is a flag in TenFourFox involving Flash, I 
 think and i turned that either on or off from the default position so it can 
 run Flash. There doesn't seem to be a problem when I go to youtube. Videos 
 from CNN or Fox run slowly and gum up everything, so I stay away from those. 
 The more this goes on the slower this Browser runs. It will quit suddenly for 
 no apparent reason.
 Mark Murphy
 

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Re: G5 thinks there are still two monitors attached, after removing one.

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On Jun 23, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Tom wrote:

 Thanks for the suggestion Bruce. Yes, I tried the power bricks from two other 
 23-inch monitors on the dead one, hoping to wake it up, but they failed to 
 bring it to life. The little on light remains dark, along with the screen.
 
 This is such as (cosmetically) beautiful monitor that I hate to chuck it, but 
 I don't know anything about popped caps. Guess I'll hang onto it a while, in 
 the hope that somebody can help me with it, or I can learn how to do it 
 myself.
 
 To show you how old I am, the only caps I ever popped before this were in a 
 toy pistol I had when I played Cowboys and Indians as a kid (I guess that's 
 politically incorrect now). 
  


Capacitors, (caps), are notorious for having a shortened life in solid state 
monitors, TVs etc.  It almost seems that they were purposely under-engineered.  
Caps are cheap and it will be obvious upon disassembly which ones have failed.


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Re: G5 thinks there are still two monitors attached, after removing one.

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On Jun 23, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Jun 23, 2013, at 4:51 PM, James E. Therrault mjrtas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Capacitors, (caps), are notorious for having a shortened life in solid state 
 monitors, TVs etc.  It almost seems that they were purposely 
 under-engineered.  Caps are cheap and it will be obvious upon disassembly 
 which ones have failed.
 
 It didn't help that for several years in the early to mid 2000's a case of 
 botched industrial espionage resulted in a flood of substandard capacitors in 
 the market :
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague


Yeah but big outfits like Samsung should have made good on some of the monitors 
that failed right after the warranty ended.  It's just a bad way of doing 
business and now I avoid Samsung products like the plague...

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Re: New Forums

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On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:55 AM, ROBERT H. BAUCOM wrote:

 I still loop back with nostalgia to the old PowerComputing List (Remember 
 that Mac  Clone ?). Great bunch of folk that helped me  for  many years. 
 Like the old Hudson Automabile, when they went out of business, a great 
 product with plummeting resale prices, A real bargain. 
 My son, daughter  three grandkids were furnished with PowerCenter Pros  with 
 sonnet G3 upgrade kits. 


Ah yes, Power Computing!  I still have a pristine Power Center Pro tower with a 
Sonet G3 plus a desktop PCP for spare parts.

It was the cat's butt back then...

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Re: They're Following Me...

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On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Dan wrote:

 At 1:36 PM -0700 03/07/2013, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 Owners of websites DO have some control over what ads are placed on them, so 
 if there's something egregiously offensive tell the webmaster of the site in 
 question.
 
 It's a shame more web sites don't exercise more control over the ads. I know 
 the ad networks offer all kinds of choices (and data formats).
 
 Seems to me that with a little brains, they could actually make ads 
 interesting.  You know, something apropos but non-intrusive to the story.  
 Show a Mac ad next to a story about Windows malware.  Or an add for a cruise 
 line, next to a story about an airplane crash. Perhaps an ad for the newest 
 Freddie or Jason movie, next to a Disney review. ...
 
 - Dan.
 -- 
 - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.


What I hate are them thar' roll-over ads that suddenly take over the whole page!

JT

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Re: Power Mac forum at LowEndMac.com

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I already have a WordPress account but no joy here...

JT



On Mar 13, 2013, at 4:53 AM, Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com wrote:

 We've started the process of migrating to WordPress forums, and today I'm 
 announcing that the Power Macs (G3-5) forum is ready to go. Please go to 
 http://lowendmac.com/forums/forum/mac-hardware/powerpc-macs/power-macs-g3-5/
  and create a login ID and password so you can participate.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com
 

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Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!

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Neat idea but I think that it would be an unbefitting end to my Gigabit G4 that 
served me flawlessly for ten years.

JT


 
On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Dan wrote:

 http://www.techhive.com/article/2000340/the-classy-coffee-table-gives-old-power-mac-g4s-a-new-lease-on-life.html

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Re: Selling software?

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Yes IF you sell the license with it.

JT


On Aug 15, 2012, at 8:13 PM, John Callahan wrote:

 Is it legal to sell software that you have purchased from Apple, for instance?
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Re: Music stream capture app?

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On Aug 8, 2012, at 11:55 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Tom wrote:
 
 
 Another thing I found: if you hit Stop, and the capture stops, and then you 
 hit Record again, it starts recording back at the beginning again, recording 
 right over what you've already got, so you don't want to do that. (Maybe I 
 should choose a second capture window?)
 
 You need to save what you've captured , open a new capture file, or do like 
 the popup tool tip tells you, 'hold down shift to append recording'.
 
 Part of the issue here is that Audacity is an extremely powerful, mature, 
 pro-level audio processing tool that happens to be open source.
 
 It's kind of like buying a $30k CNC mill, attaching a sanding drum to it, and 
 using it to sharpen your pencils. 


I think that the op is looking for a pencil sharpener level of audio capture 
without all the bells and whistles.  I'd like to find one as well to use on my 
PowerBook G4.  I'm old and do not have the patience to figure out the operation 
of an F-22 when a cub will do the job...

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Re: EIDE Interface Speed in Clamshell G3s?

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On Jul 22, 2012, at 6:35 AM, Koralatov wrote:

 I'm finally thinking about reviving my dead Key Lime iBook, which suffered
 a hard-disk failure some time ago.  Since it'll mostly be used for mucking
 around in Terminal, disk capacity isn't particularly important, but speed
 is -- I've become used to a C2D MBP, so I want to give it as much nip as
 possible.
 
 I've been looking into relatively cheap PATA/IDE SSDs on eBay, but
 I'm not sure whether they'll be faster than a regular spinning disk.
 
 I'm quite interested in this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190705077160.
 
 The specs are:
 
 Performance
 Capacity(GB)  16 GB (4C)
 Sustained Read88 MB/S
 Sustained Write   35 MB/S
 
 How does that stack up to a spinning disk over the iBook's EIDE interface?
 I've done some googling but can't seem to get a firm answer.


Since Apple traditionally installs crappy hard drives, just an upgrade to a 
7,200 rpm drive will almost be magical in improvement.

I had a G3 466 Mhz with maxed memory and an 80MB 7,200 rpm drive and effective 
disk speed was easily doubled.

The big problem is that the HD is about the last component you get to when 
disassembling the laptop...

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Re: iCloud vs. G4

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On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:20 PM, oneoftheharts wrote:

 I don't post very often and when I do I seem to be told that I posted
 to the wrong group.  Maybe if this is the case again, someone can
 kindly direct me to the right list.  FYI, I've been around since the
 Quadlist helped me with my Centris 610...
 
 For those who don't have a .mac account and wonder what is the
 problem, after June 30, these accounts will only work on newer iPhones/
 iPads/iPods, Macs that run Lion, and PCs that run Windows Vista or
 Windows 7.
 
 I have a G4 Powerbook.  I had to upgrade my phone so I got an iPhone,
 and it now syncs to the iCloud.  But I want to continue to access my
 email from my computer (imagine that).  Has anyone with a G4 been able
 to sync their .mac email account since this change began to occur?
 Supposedly we have to convert by June 30, but as of April 9 I have
 gotten this prompt:
 
 The .Mac server “mail.mac.com” rejected the password for user (my
 username)...
 
 and I can't log in.  I can't log in from Mail and I can't log in from
 the .me/.mac links (web-based) either.  They are forcing me to either
 buy a newer computer or give up my .mac email address that I've had
 since the first day they were available.
 
 Incidentally, my login info still works from my iPhone, such as when I
 DL iTunes, apps, etc.
 
 I've chatted with technical support, and they say there's no way...
 
 Thanks so much for your help,
 Claire Hart


Just another example of Apple throwing folks under the bus even though their 
devices have a lot of life left in 'em.

In fact I can remember a couple of email services started by Apple and after a 
couple of years they were discontinued.

Specifically, I don't have a good suggestion but can offer some solace that a 
friend who has been a Mac guy is in the same boat as you and he has much newer 
equipment.

Good luck...  JT


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Re: G4 10.4 or 10.5 looking for way to halftone a picture to print in BW

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On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote:

 Il giorno 5-03-2012 9:01, Peter Devlin ha scritto:
 
 In colour mode all the printers I have come across use the CMYK
 colorspace to print - the K is the generated black - and all the cartridges
 are used. I have never seen or heard of one which uses CMY only to print in
 color.
 
 Some cheaper printers have just a CMY cartridge, so the black is always
 created by blending the colours together. Nasty. ;-)
 
 I don't know if they're still produced, but my father bought such a printer
 (Canon) many years ago. 


Back in the ancient computer days, I had a H/P Deskwriter that only had CMY 
(single cartridge) and it was the cat's butt then.  Color work was not 
brilliant but I never had a bit of trouble with it.  Later, I upgraded to a 
newer CMYK unit and it gave me nothing but grief!  So much so that I vowed to 
never use another H/P product ever.  And I haven't.

In theory, CMY should produce perfect colors including black and it does so in 
traditional subtractive photographic processes just as RGB works in the 
additive processes.  But it does not in the print process where every color 
media needs a black kicker to really make it work.

JT

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Re: Lock your doors....

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On Apr 25, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 Kind of obvious advice for most folks, but they still leave the electronic 
 ones open all the time.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/3nvokkh



Can you say, Wired only!???

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Re: OT OT OT need a reason ?

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On Mar 22, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote:
 
 But truth be told they have
 found they are much more impressed with the old G4s because unlike the
 new faster Intel macs the G4s are actually consistently reliable.
 Their Intel Macs are consistently crashing or malfunctioning in some
 other way. 
 
 This is directly contrary to my experience managing a college with about 
 100-120 Macs in use, all but a handful of which are Intel macs of one form or 
 another; none 'consistently crash'.
 
 Of course there are occasional issues, but most of those have been fixed by 
 either starting in safe mode (to clear the caches) using Applejack (once per 
 machine so far, not as a routine maintenance) or most often, just getting 
 enough RAM in the systems. (people trying to run a bunch of Mac apps plus 
 Windows in a VM need more than 2GB ram, or the system slows to a crawl on a 
 regular basis.)


It's been about two months since I switched from my trusty ol' Gigabit G4 to a 
late '09 Mac Mini.  The previous owner had wiped the HD and reinstalled the 
original system s/w which was an early version of Snow Leopard and then 
upgraded it to the current 10.6.6.

For about the first month, I did experience strange things like application 
crashes, sleep issues etc but now it seems as if the machine has learned my 
habits.  It is now rock steady, runs 24/7 (much of it in sleep mode) without 
any problems.

Safari which always gave me fits on the G4 is now amazing.  Other apps as well 
and I am running Rosetta (sp?) for an older game, Mah Jong and it works just 
fine.

Moving across a ten year technology bridge has been quite an impressive 
journey!

Wow!

JT



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Re: Apple Oompa Loompas!

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On Mar 4, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Dan wrote:

 http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1948362
 
 And make sure you CRANK up the volume for the singing Oompas!



It started out great but just stopped about 15% of the way in.

JT

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Re: The spinning beach ball and Firefox

[James E. Therrault]

On Feb 25, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote:

 
 
 On Feb 24, 8:38 am, James E. Therrault mjrtas...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Feb 23, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote:
 
 
 
 On Feb 22, 12:45 am, James E. Therrault mjrtas...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Feb 21, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
 
 
 Sometimes, the only way to find out is to remove any additions, (one at a 
 time if necessary), and see if the problem goes away.
 
 JT
 
 I started disabling add-ons with X-Marks, since that one is in use
 more often than the others. And the SBBOD (Spinning Beach Ball of
 Death) disappeared!! As soon as I enabled it again, it was back!
 Now the problem is that I want to sync my bookmarks with my other Macs
 and Xmarks did that. Does anyone know why Xmarks would cause the SBBOD
 and how to prevent it?


If you find out, let me know...  None of my Macs have synchronized 
bookmarks

JT



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Re: The spinning beach ball and Firefox

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On Feb 23, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote:

 On Feb 22, 12:45 am, James E. Therrault mjrtas...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Feb 21, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
 
 
 
 I suspect a s/w problem/conflict but that's just a guess based on years of 
 experience with nutscrape, mozilla, thunderbird products. OTOH, the very 
 latest Safari seems to be super stable as compared to former versions of 
 that browser.
 
 As an aside, the op is obviously running intel, (as am I), but that group 
 seems not to have the traffic as the g group.
 
 G' Day!
 
 JT
 
 I installed LogMeIn about 3 weeks ago and did some updates for Snow
 Leopard and TechTracker.  X-Marks has been playng havoc with my
 Bookmarks, too, but don't know if that could be the cause.
 Jane


Sometimes, the only way to find out is to remove any additions, (one at a time 
if necessary), and see if the problem goes away.

JT

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Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem

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On Feb 23, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Fabian Fang wrote:
 
 Until Lion is released in the coming months, Leopard and Snow Leopard are 
 the current and latest Mac OS.  It makes good sense for members of the 
 G-Group to join our Leopard Group to seek or provide assistance.
 
 Sorry to continue the meta-discussion, but I'd really like to add my 2 cents.
 
 No it does not. Looking at the posting rates and subscriber numbers of all 
 these myriad LEM lists, it's very clear that almost all of the actual action 
 is in just a handful of lists. Continual splitting of groups into finer and 
 finer-grained buckets merely serves to dilute possible support and makes it 
 very hard to find answers; I cannot count how many times I've seen someone 
 ask a question on one list that was JUST ANSWERED, in great and satisfactory 
 detail, on another list.
 
 I like to analogize the current state of the LEM lists to the 'Performa' 
 years at Apple I have a perfoma 624a! Well I have a Performa 634...and 
 it's a completely different machine! 
 
 When Steve Jobs came back to Apple he reduced the model count to 4: PowerMac 
 and PowerBook, iMac and iBook. That was the beginning of the resurgence, and 
 for a good reason...it instantly clarified and simplified the choices.
 
 If I were king of the forest, all these myriad LEM lists would be reduced to 
 a handful:
 
 68K Macs (both laptop and desktops, because these are waaay obsolete by now.)
 OldWorld Macs (PowerPC old world machines, both laptops and desktops as 
 above.)
 PowerPC desktops (covering pci-based PowerMacs from the iMac and beige 60x 
 and G3 models up through the G5 models, both PowerMac and iMac.)
 PowerPC laptops   (covering all New World Powerbooks and iBooks)
 Intel desktops (covering all intel-based desktop systems Mac Pros and iMacs)
 Intel laptops (covering all models of MacBook.)
 LEMSwap (of course!)


I'd even cut it some more but that's a great start!


1. 68K of all flavors
2. Pre G Power Macs of all flavors
3. G Power Macs of all flavors
4. Intel Macs of all flavors
5. Software group maybe

Consolidation always results in greater efficiencies.

After spending a good part of my life working with process(s), simplification 
is always the quickest route to solutions.

Just my 4¢ worth...

JT





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Re: The spinning beach ball and Firefox

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On Feb 21, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

 On Feb 21, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote:
 
 I am running the latest Snow Leopard and Firefox. All of a sudden, I
 keep getting the spinning beach ball of death! And it won't quit! I
 have to force quit over and over again. It doesn't matter if I select
 an email, try to delete, use a bookmark. I have run Onyx, restarted,
 shut down and nothing helps!
 
 I read my email online, so it is a real pain! Anyone else having  a
 problem or know how to fix it?
 
 Ideas:
 
 It might be a common font problem?:
 http://www.metaphoriclabs.com/articles/fix-firefox-font-rendering-problem-in-snow-leopard/
 
 You might look in the Console logs for a problem, perhaps in the 
 /Library/LogsHangReporterFirefox? You may have to dig around some.


I suspect a s/w problem/conflict but that's just a guess based on years of 
experience with nutscrape, mozilla, thunderbird products. OTOH, the very latest 
Safari seems to be super stable as compared to former versions of that browser.

As an aside, the op is obviously running intel, (as am I), but that group seems 
not to have the traffic as the g group.

G' Day!

JT



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Re: Slow and Unusable G4 Gigabit - What Fixed It?

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Ricardo Sevilla wrote:
 James E. Therrault wrote:
 
My trusty ol' G4 400MHz Gigabit has been slowin' down and yesterday 
reached the point that it would only fully boot in safe mode.

Did the original hardware test and everything checked out. Booted fine 
in OS9 even though I had not done so in at least two years.

Once in safe mode, I performed a task that has worked in the past and 
worked again last night and now everything is fine.

Any guesses on what I did? Just thought that this might be a diversion 
from the Texas 100 degree heat...

I love this group!

JT


  
 
 A SLEDGEHAMMER


Naw...  This ain't no stinkin' peecee.  Though the cause of my malady 
is/was a design flaw (IMO) in OSX.

JT


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Re: Slow and Unusable G4 Gigabit - What Fixed It?

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Bill Connelly wrote:

 
 On Jul 18, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Ricardo Sevilla wrote:
 
 
James E. Therrault wrote:

My trusty ol' G4 400MHz Gigabit has been slowin' down and yesterday
reached the point that it would only fully boot in safe mode.

Did the original hardware test and everything checked out. Booted  
fine
in OS9 even though I had not done so in at least two years.

Once in safe mode, I performed a task that has worked in the past and
worked again last night and now everything is fine.

Any guesses on what I did? Just thought that this might be a  
diversion
from the Texas 100 degree heat...

I love this group!

JT



A SLEDGEHAMMER
 
 
 No ... applejackhammer ... was it applejack ?


Nope.  No third party s/w required.

JT



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Re: Slow and Unusable G4 Gigabit - The Answer!

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James E. Therrault wrote:


My trusty ol' G4 400MHz Gigabit has been slowin' down and yesterday
reached the point that it would only fully boot in safe mode.

Did the original hardware test and everything checked out. Booted  
fine
in OS9 even though I had not done so in at least two years.

Once in safe mode, I performed a task that has worked in the past and
worked again last night and now everything is fine.

Any guesses on what I did? Just thought that this might be a  
diversion
from the Texas 100 degree heat...

I love this group!


The cause of my problems...  Overcrowded desktop!  I simply took 
everything off the desktop that was not necessary and put it into a 
single folder.

OSX does not like a lot of junk on the desktop. This has happened to me 
several times as I just drop a lot of stuff there (like dragging 
pictures of the net etc.).

Anywhat, I hope that this proves helpful to others that tend to be slobs 
er, ah, I mean... well you know..

JT


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Slow and Unusable G4 Gigabit - What Fixed It?

[James E. Therrault]

My trusty ol' G4 400MHz Gigabit has been slowin' down and yesterday 
reached the point that it would only fully boot in safe mode.

Did the original hardware test and everything checked out. Booted fine 
in OS9 even though I had not done so in at least two years.

Once in safe mode, I performed a task that has worked in the past and 
worked again last night and now everything is fine.

Any guesses on what I did? Just thought that this might be a diversion 
from the Texas 100 degree heat...

I love this group!

JT

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Re: Return to PowerPC?

[James E. Therrault]

Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Jul 7, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
 
 
IBM had problems? Not as I recall. POWER was doing great. PowerPC was
merely an adaptation of the high-end POWER multi-chip processors into
a lower-end single-chip device utilising the Motorola 88000 bus,
designed for PC-type kit.
 
 
 
 IBM never managed a low power G5, and Moro couldn't get more  
 performance outof the PPC series. Apple (along with all the other PC  
 manufacturers) live and die by their laptop lines, and the inability  
 of either Moto or IBM to deliver low power, high performance chips  
 suited for laptops was strangling Apple there.


And here we have the story.  IBM never manage much well as regards the 
PPC alliance.  Motorola had problems as well despite spending a couple 
of billion on a new fab here in Austin to produce 'em.

Bottom line was the lack of fast low power chips for laptops that 
ultimately resulted in the switch.  Had a low power G5 chip been 
produced, there would be no Apple Intel today.

My dealings with IBM always showed this company to be inflexible which 
in turn often results in a lack of innovation, two qualities that can 
seriously alter end results.

But we can discuss this to death and it won't change anything. S, 
I'll just keep on truckin' with my ancient G4 Gigabit 400...

JT

(Who wonders at times why not hook up the 1.25GHz Powerbook to use as a 
main machine)

sigh



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Re: [G3-5]Re: Return to PowerPC?

[James E. Therrault]

MaGioZal wrote:

 On 7/7/09 3:57 PM, James E. Therrault at jetas...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
 
 
Bottom line was the lack of fast low power chips for laptops that
ultimately resulted in the switch.  Had a low power G5 chip been
produced, there would be no Apple Intel today.
 
 
 
 The other thing that burned the marketing image of IBM-Mororola-Apple was
 the GHz Chip race. When all the PC market was proudly announcing 1GHz
 computers, Apple for a relatively long time had to conform to the
 duo-processed 600MHz Macs.
  


I remember when IBM was running an (I believe) experimental PPC chip at 
1GHz in 1995.  Problem was that very often, IBM could not get things out 
of the research lab purely due to bureaucracy and infrastructure.

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Re: G4 Gigabit ethernet ram

[James E. Therrault]

Ralph Green wrote:
 Howdy,
   Would memory pulled from a G4 Quicksilver work in a Gigabit Ethernet
 G4?  It is PC133 memory and I know that memory generally works in PC100
 systems, but I don't know if the G4 Gigabit is sensitive to the speed
 difference.
 Good day,
 Ralph


All of the memory in my Gigabit is PC133...

JT


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Re: Any replacement keyboards

[James E. Therrault]

tonycd wrote:

 Personally, I love the clicky feel. I'm typing this on a Matias
 Tactile Pro (an original, not a 2 -- these are REALLY unavailable
 now).
 
 Another option that gets you the old-time Apple quality is to actually
 get an old Apple Extended Keyboard and connect it via a Griffin
 Technologies iMate ADB-to-USB adapter. I haven't tried it, but some
 say it works -- can I get a witness?




Send me the adapter and I'll try it out.  I have a couple of extended 
keyboards on the shelf...  G

JT



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Re: Any replacement keyboards

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Brian Christmas wrote:
 G'day
 
 I'm just in the process of buying my daughter a new 24 iMac, but she  
 doesn't like the Apple keyboards.
 
 Is there a 3rd part replacement that offers the same keys, or that can  
 be keymapped?
 
 Said keyboard should be suitable for a touch typist.
 
 Or, should I insist she uses the aluminium keyboard until she gets  
 used to it?


Heh...  I don't like the Apple keyboards as well and when I bought my 
Gigabit G4, it was the first thing I replaced.

I'm not sure what options you have down under, but certainly there 
must be some.

What I hate most about the Apple keyboards is the close proximity of the 
function keys to the top row of number keys.

Apple could have done better.

Remember the full keyboards that Apple made back in the '80's and '90's? 
They were great!

JT

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Re: PRAM battery?

[James E. Therrault]

Kyle Hansen wrote:
 On 6/18/09 4:03 AM, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com Broadcast into the
 ether:
 
 
Woke up this morning to my G4 FW800 shut down. No power outages
overnight. When I turned it back on, it reset to a 1969 date.

This is the battery, right? (if so it would be my first dead one in
over 20 years with a Mac!)
 
 
 Yes.   That date was the date of one ov the guys on the developers team.  Go
 to Radio Shack.  Buy a new one.  Good to go.


I had a similar incident when the I experienced a momentary power 
failure yet the next day when severe storms were approaching, I powered 
down everything, shut off power at the surge surpressor and in fact 
unplugged it as well.

When I restarted several hours later, the date/time was correct.

Go figure...

JT



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Re: Arrrggh! G4 dies from just sitting there?

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Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 
 Now, I have the choice of running off to Radio Shack ( 1/2 mile  
 away), getting the battery and thus missing my delivery,
 
 (based on the Quantum Delivery Services modification of the Heisenberg  
 principle: Any departure of the receiver from the delivery point will  
 collapse the Delivery Arrival Uncertainty function to that point in  
 time. Also the driver will accidentally run over your cat.)
 
 Or waiting for the delivery (which is normally around 5:30 in this  
 neighborhood.) and waiting to get the stupid new media computer set up.
 
 (It's a shiny new teevee I'm waiting for...Costco currently has a  
 ganga deal on a 40 LCD TV for $500)
 


Don't expect to git no stinkin' $9 battery from Radio Shack.  I think 
that I had to pony up $14 a few years back when I was trying to revive a 
comotose dual G4 500 Gigabit.

Toss the teevee, it'll only rot your mind, dumb down your kids and 
otherwise cause consternation while yet, your G4 lies in a useless state.

But, you might try a few sharp slaps broadside which often reconnects 
severed connections...

JT


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Re: Arrrggh! G4 dies from just sitting there?

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Bruce Johnson wrote:


 GigE's take the same PS as a Sawtooth, I'm pretty sure, right?
 


I don't think so. I believe that there's at least one pin out that's 
different.  It's been a few years since I had the dual 500...

JT



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Re: Arrrggh! G4 dies from just sitting there?

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insightinmind wrote:
 
 On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:27 PM, James E. Therrault wrote:
 
 
Bruce Johnson wrote:



GigE's take the same PS as a Sawtooth, I'm pretty sure, right?



I don't think so. I believe that there's at least one pin out that's
different.  It's been a few years since I had the dual 500...
 
 
 
 Might find an answer here:
 http://www.welovemacs.com/parts-power.html
 
 



At $269.99 I think not!

You can but a couple of working machines for that price...

JT


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Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

[James E. Therrault]

No, the *original* thread was closed by the moderator who promptly 
started this thread...

JT




Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:
 I thought that this thread was closed by the moderator?
 
 Also, GMail's reply function makes top posting, however annoying it
 may be to some people, but it is the default action, and I have not
 been able to figure out how to make it run otherwise.
 
 Sorry for the inconvenience.
 
 On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, tragt...@io.com wrote:
 


On Jun 14, 4:48 am, Gary D. g.dea...@web.de wrote:

Why don't we just break up the group into two groups, one for top
posters and one for bottom posters and than everybody will be happy.
Or maybe not. (sorry)

I would be happy because I neither read nor respond to top posters
anyway.   The exception to the preceeding is people who are obvious
newbies who have never had the opportunity to learn better.

The vast majority of top posters also fail to ever trim any of their
quoted text.  You can argue until cows get home email access about top
vs. bottom posting, but failing to trim quoted text is a lazy
inconsiderate poster happily wasting the time of hundreds of
readers.It may not be apparent if you read lists on the Google
Groups web interface, but if you have the digests or messages emailed
to you, all that quoted text is a scrolling hell.
 
 


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Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

[James E. Therrault]

Ralph,

I think that you hit the nail squarely on the head.

This thread is the result of the single action of the one that started 
it that succeeded irrelevant comments he made in a previous thread.

Regarding my experience, top posting was the practice in every 
commercial/industrial enviroment that I worked in. Back in those days it 
was generally labeled of reply with history. The practice allowed 
anyone who came in late on an issue to have the ability to simply scroll 
down in order to become familiar with the entire issue.

Now, I do bottom post here simply because it is encouraged to trim 
history thus it does work.

I agree with all that you say but resistance might be futile.

G

JT




Ralph Green wrote:
 Howdy,
   I am pretty sure Stanton does get it, and you mis-read him Kyle.  It
 was probably an accident, but Stanton was commenting on the notion that
 top-posting forces your reader to work.  Top posting for short messages
 is easier to read and that is the big advantage.  Most people could
 configure their email program to top or bottom post.  So, posting either
 way is about the same effort.  Reading top posted replies is much
 easier, because the response is right there when you open the message.
 You don't have to scroll down to the bottom just to see what the new
 message says.  That is such a waste of time.  For long messages, it may
 add clarity and be worth the effort.  It is nothing but make work on
 short messages and I would discourage it, plain and simple.
 Good day from someone who will try to resist furthering this thread,
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Re: Lightening Season

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I live in a rual area and frequently take precautions to prevent 
lightning damage.

Disconnecting the phone cable (since I'm on dial up) is the most 
important and other than turning off my power supply surge protector (ha 
ha), that's about it.  Sometimes if it looks real bad, I'll unplug the 
surge protector which supplies all of my computer stuff.

I think that modem (cable or otherwise) is the greatest risk for your 
equipment.

JT




insightinmind wrote:
 
 On Jun 12, 2009, at 11:44 PM, insightinmind wrote:
 
 lightening
 
 
 meaning lightning, of coarse (sic) ...
 
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Re: Top Posting (read up)

[James E. Therrault]

Um, this requirement went away quite some time ago...

JT




Kyle Hansen wrote:

 Hello,
  
 I am a Nanny here at LEM.  We have some rules about posting in our forums.
 One rule that gets looked over quite frequently is what is called ³top
 posting.²  We ask that you post your responses AFTER the text you are
 answering.  This is called ³bottom posting² and considered the polite
 Internet standard.  Naturally you should also trim out some of the
 non-essential information from the previous post as well.  Here is a snippet
 of the rules that you read when you signed up for these lists:
  
 http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
  
 Thanks for your understanding.  You will be warned first, then temp banned
 and then banned from the list if you don¹t follow the few rules we ask you
 to follow.  Usually we will ban you or moderate you (so your post has to be
 approved by a nanny before it will hit the list) then temporarily ban you
 (usually 72 hours), and then if you still don¹t ³get it² you will just be
 banned from the listŠ.which we really do not want to do.  So please take the
 few extra seconds and trim your posts then post your response at the bottom.
 Not only is it polite, it is a requirement of our lists.  Some threads get
 really hard to follow if you ³top post.²
  
 We have posted several warnings.  The warnings are going to stop and then
 bans are going to begin.  It is not that difficult to trim a post and then
 reply in the natural fashion which is below the quoted text.
 
 Thank you again for your understanding.
  
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Re: The powerpc now and in the future....

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Mike Baker wrote:
 
 WOULD not make, or COULD not make?
 



A very good point.

My personal experience with both, Motorola and IBM is that neither of 
these companies had a can do property.

Way back in the early 1990's when I was working tech support for Apple 
and the PPC was just making its entry into the line up, IBM was supposed 
to come up with a way of making PS-2 (?) compatible with the new PPC 
chips. Well it never did but Apple with much more limited resources did 
make its 68xxx machines compatible. That also was the timeframe where 
IBM was nearly in the same state as GM is in today. A total unflexible 
unwieldly entity that was virtually paralyzed.

IBM has a good sized campus here in Austin and in the late 1990's when I 
was doing contract work with Applied Materials, I took a short term job 
with a company that had just bought out IBM's facility for making laptop 
circuit boards.

I was astounded at the condition of the plant and equipement.  Something 
one would expect to find in a third world country.  So poorly did this 
place perform could be illustrated by the fact that an over fifty 
percent scrap rate was accepted.

Turning to Motorola, well their brandy new billion plus chip facility 
(strictly PPC) was no better. In fact, they might have been worse than 
IBM as they (as far as I know) hardly produced any G4s. This facility is 
one of two here in Austin that were spun off and are now know as FreeScale.

That's my 5¢ worth...

JT


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Re: The powerpc now and in the future....

[James E. Therrault]

Kris Tilford wrote:

 On Jun 11, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Dan wrote:
 
 
As emulators go, Rosetta - the black box that makes PPC stuff run on
x86 Macs - is pretty good.
 
 
 Now we need the opposite emulator, the one that will allow future  
 Intel x86 only code to run on our PPC Macs. I doubt this will ever  
 exist, but it would certainly be welcomed.
 



Maybe someone could come up with a mini Intel motherboard that would fit 
into one of the PCI slots...

JT

(Who remembers the infamous flip/flop Intel capable machine of the early 
1990's)



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Re: The powerpc now and in the future....

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Dan wrote:
 At 3:32 PM -0500 6/11/2009, James E. Therrault wrote:

Maybe someone could come up with a mini Intel motherboard that would fit
into one of the PCI slots...
 
 
 LOL.  I would think it would be cheaper, easier, and more reliable to 
 just use a real x86 Mac or do a hacintosh...



Which is probably the route I'm going to try in the next year or so.

But, I just got a blurb from Apple that 13 MacBook Pros start at around 
$1199...

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Re: It is official, we are orphans.

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Kyle Hansen wrote:
 On 6/9/09 12:01 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com 
 Broadcast into the ether:
 
 Heavens no !
 
 
 I am looking at one right now...uh oh...no, no I am not.  I have a 
 “test” computer that I fiddle with that I am looking at
 


I understand that certain PC(s) can run OS-X right out of the box with 
minimum hassles..

JT


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Re: It is official, we are orphans.

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Sam Macomber wrote:

 just saw the server version is intel only as well...  DOHthree of 
 our four xserves just got obsoleted,   two are G5s that handle the 
 majority of the work one handles mail and web the other handles file 
 sharing.  the 3rd is an old G4 it has 4 drive bays so that's our 
 retrospect backup server which will stay as it is, still running 10.4... 
  I'm not even working those G5s hard at all   so there is no need 
 performance wise to upgrade, but   I know my boss is going to want all 
 the new stuff in 10.6 for his iPhone 
 
 I wonder if that'll be like 10.4 and 10.5 with open directory 
 incompatability or will 10.5 and 10.6 talk to each other   and will iCal 
 2.0 server require the clients to be on 10.6?   (has all the features 
 we've been waiting for to replace the crash happy now up-to-date clients) 
 
 I'm gonna have my hands full this fall (unfortunately 10.6 will come out 
 right at the beginning of our peak season too) 


If I were the head of a sizable operation that invested in the latest 
G5s I would be letting Apple know loud and clear that I am not a happy 
camper.

I was locked out of Lepeord due to my ancient G4 Gigabit having a low 
clockspeed of 400 MHz but that's OK.  Panther ran best on this machine 
but I do OK with Tiger.  OTOH, some folks run Tiger on earlier G3s.

Put simply, G5 support should have been maintained for the last 
generation PPCs IMNSHO...

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Re: Safari 4.0

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Dan wrote:

 At 9:49 AM -0400 6/9/2009, Dan wrote:
 
Some of the interface foibles of Safari 4 Beta have been rolled 
back.  But the ones that are left seem immutable
 
 
 hum.  Is it just me or is the tabs bar now darker?
 
 Dark background with small black text... VERY difficult to read!  :(
 



Aw...  You're being obsoleted out!  It's part of the vast Apple 
conspiracy to get us all back in line.

G

JT



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Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

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aussieshepsrock wrote:

 Seeking a reliable web resource or resources to become knowledgeable
 in choosing a color critical Monitor for myself. My google searches
 looking for websites or webpages were ludicrously scatter shot and
 mostly 'forum' posts dating back as much as multiple years and no way
 to differentiate from the 'knowledgeable', the opinionated, the
 flamer, the fan-boy, or the statistically irrelevant person screaming
 far and wide over some defective unit they encountered.
 
 I'm 'provisionally' settled on the DELL ULTRASHARP 2408WFP 24-inch
 Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor which is a cnet award winner and highly
 reviewed there. The link to dell is http://accessories.us.dell.com/
 sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?
 c=usl=ens=dhscs=19sku=320-6272. I'
 
 The current Apple displays are permanently non-options due to glossy
 screens. I've also seen them described as wonderful and pathetic for
 critical color in the exact same web forum!
 
 I don't know where to go to become an Informed Consumer as I shop
 for a display.
 
 My budget for a monitor is open to spending 5, 6, or 7 hundred bucks
 on a terrific display.


My 22 Samsung Synchmaster 225bw has worked flawlessly out of the box 
for nearly three years.  Far less than anything Apple makes with no 
sacrifice in quality.

And, they've improved since then..

JT



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Re: Safari 4.0

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Trinette Rani Johnson wrote:

 I installed it and I can't even get my firewire drive to boot tiger  
 now! I'm using my second drive with a backup beforehand. Damn you Apple!
 It booted fine before. Now it's hosed.
 



What I can't understand is why people rush off to get the latest 'n 
greates when all to often, it gives 'em grief 'n aggravation.

JT



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Re: It is official, we are orphans.

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Alexander MacLeod wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Webermaryland...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why
real businesses don't use Macs.  It's because Apple does stuff like this.
 
 
 And how long did you expect them to keep supporting the PPC
 architecture, forever? And it's not like Snow Leopard is substantively
 different than regular Leopard, it's just optimized for Intel
 hardware. Personally, I'm looking forward to a new OS without all that
 extra PPC code, and I still have some PPC Macs. I'll just keep running
 10.5 on them.
 



Uh, for Apple to throw high end G5 (including the quads) under the bus 
in less than three years is just plain dumb..  But yet, Apple has done 
that time after time.

Whenever I move up to Intel, it will most likely be some sort of hackintosh.

Bah!

JT

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Re: Speakers for a G5

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PETE wrote:
 Three reasons why I can't get these:
 1)I live in California, not Texas
 2) They are for pick up only and finally and importantly
 3) I really don't have *US $18,500.00* just lying around my apartment! 
 Besides, I think the price is kind of steep. That's a down payment on a 
 house!
 Pete.
 



Heh, I can remember when $18K would buy a house!  And no pesky computers 
to divert attention from more wholesome things...

JT


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Re: Speakers for a G5

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Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Jun 3, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Dennis Myhand wrote:
 
 
Why would you pay 18.5K for a set of B  Os when you can spend a mere
$500.00 for a pair of Klipsch bookself speakers which is more than
anyone will ever need?
 
 
 The same people who buy $500 wooden volume control knobs, $1300  
 speaker cables and $2500 tube amps for their iPods.
 



Now wait a minute...  I have a Marrantz quad with Electro-Voice TRX 
15(s) front and SP 12(s) rear that date back from way back before most 
people here could remember!

And I love 'em...

JT

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Re: DVD Player freeze ...

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PeterH wrote:

 
 On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
 
 
When I playback DVDs, one in particular completely freezes up my
Yikes! at the same point. Some DVD files are choppy at first, and
smooth out as they playback, especially in Full Screen Mode.
 
 
 Some DVDs are inadvertently improperly authored.
 
 Some DVDs are intentionally improperly authored.
 
 An example of the first case is Land of the Pharaohs (1955), a  
 recently released Warners title. Warners is not known for  
 intentionally improperly authoring their DVDs. But a few do slip  
 through.
 
 The flaws in Pharaohs occur in two places: about 3 minutes from the  
 fade-in of the main titles and about 13 minutes before the fade-out  
 of the end titles. The flaws are complete skips of about 9 minutes in  
 each instance. The first loss is really just a lot of fluff about  
 the Pharaoh himself. The second loss is essentially the entire  
 secret of how the Pharaoh's pyramid was made tamper-proof, and  
 which is the essential point of the entire screen story.
 
 What one sees is a burst of random color on the screen followed  
 instantly by a skip to about 9 minutes later in the movie.
 
 In the case of the first skip, it is possible to manually skip  
 backwards and resume the film at approximately the point at which the  
 disturbance first occurred. You have to skip backwards just enough,  
 but not too much!
 
 In the case of the second skip, it is impossible to manually skip  
 backwards. It is just as if those 9 minutes are not on the DVD at all.
 
 I doesn't matter, in this specific case, if the manufactured DVD is  
 attempted to be played, or a ripped copy of the same is attempted  
 to be played, the flaws are in both. I guess that says a lot about  
 how faithful the various ripping programs can be.
 
 Even worse than skips are freezes.
 
 Some set-top players are good at skipping over freezes whereas others  
 are not. A lot depends upon the device's firmware.
 
 In the worst case, a set-top box may have to be rebooted by pulling  
 the power plug in order to restart its firmware.
 
 In the case of DVD Player, a Force Quit accomplishes the same  
 thing, but this doesn't work if the application is in full-screen  
 mode as there are no selectable points on the screen when gets one  
 back to the Finder and from which one can force the process to quit.



Yet another factor is just plain ol' dirt.

Often, cleaning a rented DVD will fix that.  A friend who uses Netflix 
regularly cleans 'em before use and this practice has prevented a lot of 
aggravation on his part.

I've had the same issues and have resorted to same action.

JT



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Re: DVD Player freeze ...

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PeterH wrote:

 
 On Jun 2, 2009, at 6:47 AM, James E. Therrault wrote:
 
 
Yet another factor is just plain ol' dirt.

Often, cleaning a rented DVD will fix that.  A friend who uses Netflix
regularly cleans 'em before use and this practice has prevented a  
lot of
aggravation on his part.
 
 
 In the case cited, I was the first renter of the flawed DVD.
 
 To clean rented DVDs, I generally use a special spectacle-cleaning  
 cloth (often supplied with quality prescription eyewear) which has  
 the beneficial property of removing even fingerprints from the disk's  
 surface.


Heh...  I just use Dawn (or equivalent), dry well and if it gonna work 
it will.  Seems to work in about 90% of the time.


 Again, in the instant case of Land of the Pharoahs, the disk was  
 mis-authored, and contained two 9-minute skips, one of which was  
 recoverable as there was at least one complete chapter which followed  
 the skip (in fact, there were about 20 complete chapters) and one of  
 which was not recoverable as there was no complete chapter which  
 followed the skip (i.e., the skip occurred in the very last chapter).
 
 After enough negative reports on a specific copy, Netflix may put the  
 media through a polishing machine in an attempt to remove scratches.  
 This process is successful in some cases, but not in others.
 
 In more than on case the damaged media is unsalvageable, and should  
 it be the only copy in Netflix' library, then the title would be  
 withdrawn until it is reissued by the publisher.

Yep, you do take risks but then the price is right when it comes to 
Netflix.  A great alternative to the vast wasteland of commercial/cable TV.

JT

(Who hasn't had cable in over twenty-five years)

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Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?

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Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 On May 12, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Baha Ata wrote:
 
 
For my point of view, iMac version as you mentioned will be
determined. If i am in same shoes with him, i get rid off the ibook,
if it is higher iMac G5 focus on it.
 
 
 It's a real pain in the butt to carry that iMac to the library or the  
 coffee shop, or the living room, for that matter.
 
 WHY is everyone telling this poor guy to get rid of a perfectly good  
 Mac?



You're exactly right.  I only use a notebook for travel or other mobile 
needs and in my case, the aluminum G4 serves the bill prefectly.

Oh, and the more people that I chat with, they considere the G5 and in 
betweener much like a 603 or G3.  That said, I tend to upgrade every 
other generation which if I follow through as in the past, my next 
machine will be an intel something...

JT

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Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

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I believe that you are correct.  Additionally, the OEM license alows 
free upgrades for that major version and that is why when a machine is 
sold, it should include the original disks.

JT


Baha Ata wrote:
 Totally misleading factor. OEM licenses belong the machines not people
 :) So if you got the machine you got the license of it. If it is OEM
 licensed machine... All apple's comes with eproms and Systems... No
 single Apple produced without system. So... Do u really catch the
 point?
 
 Anyway i cut it.. Whatever you may thing out there, but belive me i am
 shocked that i have never been in USA and probably know more than
 general of you about rules and obligations about your country.
 
 Thanks again. I am hussed.
 
 2009/5/12 joe j...@joethejuggler.com:
 

On May 11, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Baha Ata wrote:


Yes above one of my post i state that they may use OEM license... for
one install..

And it's already been pointed out to you that the license for the Mac
OS that comes installed on a new Mac only goes to the original
purchaser and is not transferable.

Joe



 
 
 


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Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

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Ralph Green wrote:
 Howdy,
   Does anyone have a lead on legitimate US sellers who have something
 similar?  I'd like to buy another retail Tiger CD or DVD to install.  I
 would like to setup another G4, so I need the retail disks, I believe.
 I try to be careful where I buy, because I don't want a pirated copy.
 With 10.6 in the near future, 10.4 disks could legitimately be getting
 cheap.
 Good day,
 Ralph 


There is always a selection of retail disks on eBay.

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Re: Shocking! Email Wasn't The Only Migration!

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yersi...@cybernex.net wrote:

 OMG, Listers!
 
 It looks like this past week's migration from Claris Emailer to the OS X 
 native Thunderbird email client was not only successful in itself, but 
 has resulted in something totally bizarre: realizing I don't even need 
 to have Classic Mode ON all the time anymore!
 
 Just got up, having morning coffee...last night, having declared Tbird 
 fully trustworthy, I set it in both my account settings not to leave 
 any more email on my ISP's mailserver at all anymore -- and then went to 
 my ISP's web site and cleaned out the inboxes for both my addies...and 
 just now, I also finally took the Claris Emailer icon out of the Dock too.
 
 So I'm sitting here, staring at my strange new Dock (I check email a 
 LOT, so the lack of the Claris Emailer icon is definitely...strange! 
 What's running? L ro R: Dashboard (OS X), Safari (OS X), Tbird (OS X) 
 and my Sims game (Carbonized). I stare, and think for a moment...go up 
 to the little 9 and turn Classic off. Of course, those apps stay running 
 -- they're native or compatible with OS X. Then I click the icons for my 
 vital but decidedly legacy GUID Checker and Sim Show (which I know 
 aren't even Carbonized) -- and Classic starts right up on GUID Checker! 
 I forgot it would do that, I've been running this G4 since discovering 
 on Day One (September 21, 2006) I could specify in System Prefs to 
 automatically boot Classic at startup, so it was NEVER off! Anyway, 
 sincer I didn't need to actually use GUID Checker when I clicked it, I 
 turned Classic back off.
 
 And then, I find myself actually wishing for the impossible -- that 
 someone could Carbonize or write OS X native versions of GUID Checker 
 and Sim Show! (and I know a 3rd party Sims-modding app programmer who 
 puts out both OS 9 and OS X versions of HIS program when he updates it, 
 so I decide to contact him and ask about the feasibility of this/if he'd 
 be interested, to ask what's involved in making an OS 9 program OS X 
 native!)
 
 Took me two and a half years, but even though I still need Classic for 
 those last two programs, since I wish I didn't, I really DID make it all 
 the way into OS X! I don't believe it!!!
 
 faints
 
 How long did it take the rest of you old stubborn Legacy die-hards?


Well, for starters, this old legacy diehard switched cold turkey in 
December of 2006.

I had thought about it for several years and... IF I had known that you 
could put legacy applications in the dock, I would have made the switch 
much sooner.

I still run classic on occasion but have not booted with classic for at 
least two years and don't miss anything about doing so.

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Re: G4 Graphite Video Card Upgrade

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DKline wrote:
 My system now has a stock Rage128 Pro Graphics card which is very slow
 at displaying screens.  What upgrade cards are available AGP and would
 it significantly accelerate displaying and downloading things on the
 internet.  It's VRAM is only 16mb so I'm assuming it's creating a
 bootleneck to the entire system.  Thanks DKline


I've had the same video card in my 400 MHz Giganet G4 since I bought it 
new in 2001. It supported my 22 Samsung flatscreen out of the box when 
I upgraded about three years ago. And yes, I can watch full screen DVD 
movies without problems.

I seriously doubt a bottleneck as most internet broadband connections 
are not really *that* fast. Connection speeds can vary as I've seen 
cable/DSL slow down to a virtual crawl on machines much faster than mine.

Now, a bottleneck would certainly occur with high end video/graphics 
production no doubt as compared to today's machines but that is not the 
issue here...

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Re: Strange Downloads While Using Safari...

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joe wrote:
 
 On May 7, 2009, at 10:47 PM, James E. Therrault wrote:
 
 
Yes, it is probably the downloads window.  It just pops up randomly
and the downloads are generally tiny like 4K files.  This crap just
started the other day.

I don't know about capturing a screen shot since this activity  
seems to
hijack the whole application.

I guess I need to upgrade Safari for starters.

JT
 
 
 You should be able to do a whole screen capture with command-shift-3.
 
 If not, go to Applications/Utilities/Grab.
 
 If your OS is 10.4.9, you should update it to 10.4.11 too.  Maybe  
 clean up a bunch of browser stuff (I like to use Onyx to clean all  
 that stuff out).
 
 I can't imagine how you'd get automatic downloads, though. You could  
 try looking at the page with JavaScript disabled.


My mistake...  I am running 10.4.11.

JT

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Re: Strange Downloads While Using Safari...

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Dan wrote:
 At 8:43 AM -0500 5/8/09, James E. Therrault wrote:
 
My mistake...  I am running 10.4.11.
 
 
 Then why are you running Safari 3.0.4?
 
 - Dan.


Beats me...  I'm on dialup and usually update a couple of times a year 
by carrying my laptop to someone that has broadband (of which there is 
none in these heeyah pahts).

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Re: Strange Downloads While Using Safari...

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Dan wrote:
 At 8:26 PM -0500 5/6/2009, James E. Therrault wrote:
 
Over the past couple of days, I get a dialog (pop up) listing downloads
while at various websites.  These downloads are small but they
virtually hijack the application usually ending up with a Force Quit.
 
 
 OS?  Safari vers?
 10.9  3.0.4

 URLs involved?

Last one was http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_island/


 
 What plug-ins and inputmanagers have you installed?

Nothing that I know of.  I only use Safari when Mozilla hangs.

JT


 
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Re: Strange Downloads While Using Safari...

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Dan wrote:

 At 7:55 AM -0700 5/7/2009, artemis wrote:
 
few days Command-Q has become ineffective and I've been having to
Force Quit to get out of it. Otherwise, I stare at the spinning
beachball forever . . .
 
 
 URLs?
 
 Safari vers?
 
 Details please
 
 If some page element is causing Safari to hang, we need to isolate it 
 and report it to Apple.
 
 - Dan.


Just replied to your earlier post.  I've been out all day.

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Re: Strange Downloads While Using Safari...

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Dan wrote:
 At 9:08 PM -0500 5/7/09, James E. Therrault wrote:
 
Dan wrote:

 At 8:26 PM -0500 5/6/2009, James E. Therrault wrote:


 Over the past couple of days, I get a dialog (pop up) listing downloads

while at various websites.  These downloads are small but they
virtually hijack the application usually ending up with a Force Quit.

 

 OS?  Safari vers?
 10.9  3.0.4
 
 
 10.9?  No such release yet.
 
 
  URLs involved?

Last one was http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_island/
 
 
 I've tried that page with Safari 3.0.4, 3.2.1, and 4 beta.  It loads 
 and works for me, even on my 300-MHz Smurf.  No javascript errors. 
 No pop-up anything.  Some of the flash ads are a bit, um, 
 over-animated.  No odd downloads.  However... that page (before 
 clicking on any news articles) pumped me full of cookies.  62 of 
 them!  And turning off both plug-ins and javascript makes it load 
 MUCH faster.   Lame code.
 
 Your dialog (pop up) listing downloads... Are you talking about the 
 downloads window?  Or something else?  Please show us a screen shot 
 of this.
 
 - Dan.



Yes, it is probably the downloads window.  It just pops up randomly 
and the downloads are generally tiny like 4K files.  This crap just 
started the other day.

I don't know about capturing a screen shot since this activity seems to 
hijack the whole application.

I guess I need to upgrade Safari for starters.

JT



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Strange Downloads While Using Safari...

[James E. Therrault]

Over the past couple of days, I get a dialog (pop up) listing downloads 
while at various websites.  These downloads are small but they 
virtually hijack the application usually ending up with a Force Quit.

Any ideas???

JT

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Re: WMV

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Len Gerstel wrote:

 
 On May 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 

(and note in 10.6, Apple's going back to the original QT idea, QT
player will, out of the box, allow you to save and transcode files
without paying the $30.)
 
 
 Thanks a lot, Bruce. Just tease all of us stuck with G machines who  
 won't be able to run 10.6.
 
 Just another ploy by Apple to marginalize those of us loyal to our 10  
 year old computers.
 
 Len



Not to mention those that purchased the last G5 just around two years ago...

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Re: Some days you just need a good laff.

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Dan wrote:
 Someone brought this to my attention.  If you download the What 
 Price Cool? pdf, be sure to put down your beverage before reading 
 it.  Your keyboard and display will be most appreciative.  ROFLMAO.
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/11/microsoft_flames_macs/
 
 - Dan.



PeeCee users simply cannot divorce themselves from an over abundance of 
dillusion...

JT

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Re: LCD Cleaning???

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Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 On Apr 3, 2009, at 7:49 PM, James E. Therrault wrote:
 
 
I love my 22 Samsung but I need to clean the screen without  
destroying
anything.  What's the best solution(s) to a messy situation?

 
 I use some prewetted eyeglass cleaning wipes. I've even used them  
 successfully to eliminate or greatly reduce keyboard marks on laptop  
 screens.
 
 


H, interesting since my G4 laptop is pristine except for some 
keyboard marks.

Thanks Bruce and to others who have responded!

JT


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LCD Cleaning???

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I love my 22 Samsung but I need to clean the screen without destroying 
anything.  What's the best solution(s) to a messy situation?

TIA

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Re: pooched iMac G5

[James E. Therrault]

Power supply going south???

JT



Sam Macomber wrote:

 Computer in question is a 17 iMac G5 running 10.5.6 has been running  
 OS 10.5 for over 6 months flawlessly.   This morning it started  
 crashing at random progressively getting worse. While it was still  
 functioning I ran disc utility disk checked out fine, repaired  
 permissions(was not much wrong).Ran apple hardware test passed all  
 tested on extended.After that it would not get past the blue start  
 up screen.  zapped PRAM, booted  into single user I ran fsck found  
 some errors, said it repaired them,  still blue screen.  target disk  
 mode worked, copied important data off computer.   tried 10.5  
 retail install DVD, blue screen. After several tries I got the  
 installer screen, selected language locked up button became all  
 pixelated and weird.  tried booting off the HDD again got part of the  
 menu bar froze up.  tried swapping out the RAM for a known good stick  
 from another machine, blue screen.  Tried a firewire drive with a  
 bootable copy of 10.5.3, blue screen
 
 on blue screens I always get a working mouse, sometimes it gives me  
 the spinning color pinwheel.  I noticed on the firewire drive even  
 after 10minutes it was still accessing the HDD but was obviously  
 locked up otherwise.
 
 put in the OE system install disk(10.4), booted and installed fine.   
 got to the welcome screen music plays but the video freezes. 
 reboot, same thing.   also there are random incorrect pixels on the  
 screen (once a few green ones,   second time some magenta ones)
 
 -sam
 
  
 


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Re: Last.fm to charge for streaming (BBC).

[James E. Therrault]

Heh...  Oh to be sitting on the veranda sipping a cool one (while 
browsing) at the Village Hotel on Pohnpei where they are Mac friendly.

JT

(Who will be there on his next birthday!)




Peter wrote:
 Or use an public proxy server from the country you want to be :-)
 
 Peter M.
 
 
 
 Sent with my mobile divice
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Gamble seemybr...@gmail.com
 
 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:00:35 
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Last.fm to charge for streaming (BBC).
 
 
 
 
 On 30-Mar-09, at 3:02 AM, Brian Durant wrote:
 
 
I am wondering if anyone
knows of a program that will change the IP address in OS X to an
address that shows another geographical location, such as the US?
 
 
 Try HotSpot Shield, available for Tiger and Leopard:
 
 http://www.hotspotshield.com/
 
   - Tony
 
 

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Re: 20-22 monitors: Seeking advice recommendations

[James E. Therrault]

Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 On Mar 20, 2009, at 9:21 PM, tonycd wrote:
 
 

My old 17 CRT still works fine, but I'm getting greedy at home for
the same convenient screen real estate I have at the office (I often
need to display two Word docs at once).

I see 22 monitors for $140 that sound pretty good. I am VEEEY
price-sensitive, and this is like the sirens singing to me.

I also read that one monitor advertised it was Windows Vista-ready
and had the drivers for that OS. (Drivers? For a monitor?)
 
 
 More than likely this is color profiles for the monitor.
 
 
a question I never even thought of: are some LCDs incompatible with OS
X?
 
 
 None as far as I know. Whether features such as autorotation work  
 (flipping it from landscape to portrait orientation) is dependent on  
 the vide drivers, not the monitor. You don't mention what computer you  
 have, and what video card you have...there are monitors on the market  
 today that won't work with some of the very old Video cards in the  
 earliest OS X compatible computers.
 



Yes, I made the move nearly three years ago.  Bought a Samsung 22 and 
it worked out of the box and I have an acient G4 with only 16MB VRAM.

The real estate is great!

JT



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Re: Oh, that nasty cigarette goo!

[James E. Therrault]

I would reinforce this statement that in the arena of semi-conductor 
equipment manufacturing, IPA is the ONLY liquid allowed in a clean room 
environment. Not only is it used for cleaning components but also as a 
lubricant for assembly of difficult metals such as stainless to 
stainless fasteners.

JT




Charles Davis wrote:
 
 On Mar 15, 2009, at 2:37 AM, jonas ulrich wrote:
 
 
I haven't really had to deal with computers that have been used in  
a smokers home. You say that goo builds up??? HOW??? just from the  
smoke or what? I might suggest maybe using rubbing alcohol and a  
tooth brush...
 
 
 rubbing alcohol === BAD  'Rubbing Alcohol' often has 'Emollients  
 and perfumes', plus who knows what else, added to keep the users skin  
 from being 'dried out'. Now the 91% Isopropyl is much better, and  
 just a few cents more per bottle at the Drug Store. [WalleyMart,  
 wherever!]
 
 
 Chuck D.
 
 
i would just replace fans and stuff though...
-Jonas

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net  
wrote:
On 3/14/09 6:09 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio  
fluxstrin...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether:

I have had this with three old Macs.

My drill is to get

My drill is not to buy machines from smokers because the stench  
will never be completely removed from said computer.

Kyle Hansen
-- 
This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but a twitter.


 
 
 
  
 


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Re: Thermal grease?

[James E. Therrault]

Ernest L. Gunerius wrote:

 On 14/3/09 02:32, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

  Overclockers who are set on defeating heat to preserve costly CPUs 
 yet squeeze
  extreme clock counts out of them have been known to polish the CPU and
  heatsink with ever finer grades of wet or dry paper starting with 
 1000 grit.
  And even going to finer grits of polishing compound. Some may even  
 lap : the
  surfaces together with a polishing compound.
 
  Then they apply the thermal paste after all of that.
 
  In theory the more closely the parts surfaces match and the thinner 
 the paste
  needed to
  make up the difference the faster and therefore the more successful 
 the heat
  transfer will be.
   

 Seems strange - the laws of physics would suggest that a coarse 
 finish -
 rather than a polished surface - would provide a much greater surface area
 for a face to face contact - with the compound filling the pits in the
 coarse finish...
 
 Pete
 
 ~--~--~---
 
 
 With a coarse finish the surfaces are held apart by the metal to metal 
 contact at random spots and the interstices are filed with compound. The 
 compound has a finite, even if small, Thermal resistance. The length of 
 the path through the compound is defined by the roughness of the surfaces.
 
 The smoother the surface the smaller the interstices left by the metal 
 to metal contact points. Thus the layer of Compound necessary  to fill 
 the interstices is thinner.
 
 It could be argued and possibly answered by experiment that there could 
 be a surface condition in the range between a very rough finish and a 
 finish that imposes a  Casimir force that would give the minimum thermal 
 resistance at a reasonable cost of Time, Money and Resources.
 
 I would imagine that the Engineers at the Heat sink, Thermal Paste, 
 Processor and Computer Manufacturers have thoroughly investigated the 
 situation.
 
 If they have followed good engineering practices they have experimented 
 and found a workable solution within the Triple Constraint (Money, 
 Resources, Time).
 
 The Over Clockers are the modern equivalent of the old Shade Tree 
 Mechanics squeezing the last possible Horsepower/Torque out of a Flat 
 Head Ford engine; as they work within their version of the Triple 
 Constraint.
 
 If it works for them, Hurrah,
 
 ErnieG
 


Heh...  You mean the engine that despite having two waterpumps still 
tended to overheat?

G

JT



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Another minor tale of woe and ass-u-me ...

[James E. Therrault]

Heh!

After thinking about this for awhile, I started wondering what values my 
ol' G4 400 Gigabit was seein' on the 160GB Seagate drive that I 
installed a couple of years ago.  The reason, the limitations for HDs 
with this era machine.

Yep, I partitioned it into three equal volumes and got the following 
from Get Info.

#1 - 49.55GB
#2 - 49.55GB
#3 - 49.55GB

Then I remember vaguely someone mentioning that partitioning is the 
workaround to achieve the full potential of this drive so I guess that a 
total value of just under 150GB proves that out with the rest of the 
missing capacity just being consumed by overhead.

Interesting point: System Profiler lists this drive as having a total 
capacity of 128GB which would be its unpartitioned capacity.

Oh well, just something to break up the morning...

JT



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Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting

[James E. Therrault]

I've had firewire external drive problems in the past and the cause was 
the chipsets used in the case.

JT



tonycd wrote:

 Pardon me for quasi-hijacking this thread, but I just ran into nearly
 the same exact problem.
 
 Only worse: my external FireWire drive isn't seen at all. (3
 partitions: a Panther, a Tiger and a Leopard.) Worked last time. This
 time, none of the three show up anywhere. Not on the desktop, not in
 Disk Utility, not even in Disk Warrior. The physical disk sounds like
 it's running normally.
 
 Uh-oh.
 
--Tony
 
 
 On Feb 28, 7:55 pm, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
 fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ken W ken...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I am running a PowerMac G4 dual 450 with OS X 10.3.9.  I have 2 external
firewire hard drives, a LaCie 80 GB and a LaCie 750 GB.  The 750 has 3
partitions.  Everything was working great, but I powered off my computer
today and now when I rebooted the 80 GB is unmounted, and 2 of the 3
partitions on the 750 are unmounted.  Disk Utility can see these unmounted
drives/ partitions, but can not mount them.

What the heck?  I am not that technical with this kind of stuff.

__

What file system were they formatted in?

Do you shut it down regularly with no similar problem?

Have you mounted them to any other machines recently?

Have you installed any new software or updates recently that may have files
in startup or shutdown folders?
 

 
 


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Re: more RAM in my QS 867

[James E. Therrault]

Gigabyte G4s have four slots that can accommodate four 512KB Dimms. 
Later models only had three slots.  A definite step backwards by Apple IMO.

JT




Dennis Myhand wrote:

 Hi Robert:
 
 I just went through this on the PCs in my teaching lab in early January. 
   Dreamweaver CS3 kicked up an error about there not being enough memory 
 in the computers to meet system requirements.  1 gig is required and all 
 of my machines have 512megs.  I went ahead and installed, and I was 
 surprised the install went ahead.  We have been working with Dreamweaver 
 for about 4 weeks total now and there does not seem to be any issue with 
   the lower amount of memory, other than the initial warning that the 
 memory amount needed to be increased.
 
 Lowend Mac says the sawtooth is expandable up to 2 gigs.  What was the 
 configuration option?  The people on this list can figure out just about 
 anything, Mac-wise, if they don't already know it.  Welcome to the list. 
   Peace, Dennis
 
 Robert Crittenden wrote:
 
This is my first posting (neophyte), so take it easy on me!
  I am trying to install Adobe CS4 on my aforementioned QS. One of the 
system requirements is 2MB (or more) ram. My QS has only three slots, 
and the consensus is 512MB max, in each, leaving me a little short (I 
know.. that's what she said).
   The setup WAS going to let me go ahead and install anyway, but had a 
large bright exclamation point that I had to acknowledge before doing 
so, so I stopped.
  I also had another option other than adding more ram, something about 
reconfiguring my system or something (more than I am willing to attempt 
at this point).
  I also have a FW800, @1GHz, but the same ram limitation exist too!!
  I also have a Sawtooth, but don't know about the graphics card in it, 
and it is a 500MHz machine, but it is supposed to have four slots, and 
thus allows the needed 2GB ram.

   Don't really know what to do at this point. Really need to move on to 
CS4 (operating CS now), and don't really relish the idea of dusting off 
the Sawtooth, IF that is really an option.

   However, let me say that I really enjoy reading the daily post on the 
group, and the LEMS group, which I also receive!!

Many Thanks,
   Toothgrisle  toothgri...@yahoo.com

 
 
  
 


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Re: what happened to the trash crunch noise?

[James E. Therrault]

Charles Davis wrote:
 
 On Feb 13, 2009, at 7:51 PM, MacGuy wrote:
 
 
for some reason the crunch of the trash went away? here crunchy!
here crunchy?hmm.. ideas? Jeff


 
 Don't remember exactly where, but someplace among all the things in  
 System Preferences there is a place to specify the 'sound' used for  
 various event notifications.
 
 Have fun searching!!!
 
 Chuck D.
 


I sort of have a similar issue...  No start up chime.  Machine works 
perfectly otherwise..

JT


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Re: Satan before coffee

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Dan wrote:

 hum.
 Why is Smurfy so slow this morning?
 I've only started a few apps, etc.
 The cpu gizmo in the menu bar is pegged!
 (pull down its menu)
 OMG!  Satan is using 92% of my CPU!
 WTF!  How did the Evil One get onto my Mac!
 I practice safe surfing!  I swear I do!
 d'oh.  Safari.
 
 darn tiny fonts.
 
 ok.  Coffee is ready.
 
 - Dan.



Heh...

Do you have a ton of crap on the desktop?

Are you runnin' Tiger??

Or, izzit just punishment for all them thar' horrible thangs you did in 
childhood???

HTH

G

JT



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Re: ... on a G4 MDD

[James E. Therrault]

Dan A. Currie wrote:
 Dan wrote:
 
At 10:20 AM -0600 2/8/2009, Dan A. Currie wrote:
  

G4 MDD DUAL 1.25 MHz / 2 GB RAM
1 -120 GB (OS10.5), 1 - 200 GB (OS10.4), 1- 120GB and 1 - 6GB 
(OS9.2) HDD's in that order.

When I go to Startup Disk in System Preferences all 3 OS's are there on
their respective HDs but when I select OS9.2 and then click RESTART the
G4 begins a normal restart, looks for OS9.2 ... CAN NOT FIND IT ... and
restarts in OS10.5.


hum.  If it shows up in the prefs then it's a valid system to boot from...

Does it seem to delay at all, as if it's searching for that boot 
volume?  I'm thinking maybe because it's the 6th device in the search 
order, it's not ready for some reason when the strap reaches for it.

If you select that boot volume then close the prefs and restart 
normally, does it work?

If you zap the pram, does it work?

If you boot holding down the option key - which should show you the 
boot choices, is it listed?

How old is your pram/backup battery?

- Dan.
  
 
 PRAM battery is new, have long since forgotten how to ZAP it.
 
 When I hold down Option key it does not show up.
 
 Dan Currie
 


Is the system folder blessed?

JT




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Re: Damaged G5!!

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Dan A. Currie wrote:
 Hello ALL,
 
 I am NOT a happy camper!! I just took delivery on a G5 2.5 that I won on 
 eBay and somewhere in transit UPS dropped it ... I mean they REALLY 
 DROPPED IT!!!
 
 It seems to boot up and function nicely but the case wobbles and just 
 generally looks bad!!
 
 My questions are ... Is it possible to repair the legs? Where do I 
 send it?
 
 If it can't be repaired then I am returning it to UPS for a damage 
 assessment.
 
 Dan Currie
 


If it was insured by the seller, he will have to make the claim. Offer 
to send pix of the damage to aid in the process.

If not insured (fee paid), I believe that UPS limits its liability to $100.

JT

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Re: Seagate HD firmware update

[James E. Therrault]

dorayme wrote:
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 11:36 am
From: Kris Tilford

On Jan 18, 2009, at 3:46 AM, Paul wrote:


The announcement said Seagate has isolated this issue to a firmware
bug affecting drives from these families manufactured IN December
2008. That would seem to narrow the field of eligible drives quite a
bit.

No, you misquoted Seagate's announcement.

It was manufactured THROUGH December 2008, meaning including all
months prior to December 2008.

 
 
 through Dec means up to Dec This an American thing? Sure ain't  
 Australian or Pommy...
 
 Anyway, if I may, why are so many (not all) of my G3 posts coming  
 through with most text underlined? Looks like an anchor closing tag  
 in HTML is being forgotten in the manufacture of the digest...
 
 
 --
 dorayme
 


Through Dec means inclusive to the end of the month and all months prior.

JT


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Re: Print an evil PDF file?

[James E. Therrault]

Dan wrote:
 At 1:21 PM -0600 1/29/2009, Richard Smallwood wrote:
 
This new schedule... is 24 x 8.5   Preview makes an unreadable 
mess, fitting it to a page, or just looses 2/3 of the schedule when 
done at 100%.
http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/rail/r0090.pdf

My experience with it was really strange (OSX.4.11). I could not 
manually download it
 
 
 That's settings between your browser and the pdf plug-in.  The 
 default is to load the pdf into the app, not download it.  Another 
 soln is to download it with curl.curl -LO url
 
 
into Acrobat Reader 8.1.3 or Acrobat Reader 7.0.9. It did print out 
using Safari 3.2.1. I used legal size, landscape print, but had to 
reduce 58% to get it on one page. You can read it, but the print is 
small.
 
 
 yea, too small for me.  The hubble sized magnifying glass I'd need 
 doesn't fit in my wallet. :(
 
 
used the snapshot tool and it printed each half of the page on 100% 
landscape on letter size paper.
 
 
 Ya, as Bruce suggested...  Ok.  I'm grabbing chunks now, pasting 
 them into GraphicConverter, then printing them.  They look good so 
 far.   sigh.   pita.
 
 Tried to get the printed schedule directly from NJT... I was told 
 they don't mail them out.  Checked the train station - they no gots. 
 The bins for them, glued to the ticket machines, are full of ancient 
 trash.  So it doesn't look like they ever gots.  sigh.  Gotta love 
 these well-run quasi-government agencies.  *grumble*
 
 Thx,
 - Dan.


Dan, the dimensions for that document would print on a tabloid (11x17) 
printer.  Even then, the type size would be small. That brochure is much 
too busy and could certainly have been designed better.

JT

(Trying to find an excuse to fire up my old Epson 1200)



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Re: RAM prices going up??

[James E. Therrault]

PeterH wrote:

 
 On Jan 13, 2009, at 4:25 PM, glen wrote:
 
 
Ahem. I spent $138 ($69 per stick, which was a *gargantuan*  
steal at
the time) to update my Mac Plus to 512 KB. At those prices, my G4
would take $138,000 to fill up, or very nearly twice the price  
of our
house when we bought it.

This was the scary, scary no turning back now update that required
you to snip a resistor on the MB


Scary indeed!
 
 
 At the large mainframe computer manufacturer where I was employed in  
 an earlier lifetime, main storage was priced at one million dollars  
 per megabyte.
 
 And, our 'puters had a maximum main storage capacity of eight megabytes.
 
 Of course, that was 1976, and the memory was ECC and interleaved a  
 gazillion ways.
 
 A four megabyte machine burned about 70 kilavolt-amperes of power ...  
 about the same as ten all-electric residences.
 
 An eight megabyte machine burned about 140 kilavolt-amperes ... about  
 the same as twenty all-electric residences.
 


Ahhh  The good ol' days!

Back in the 1970's, I was employed as the senior cinematographer/film 
editor for the Safeguard anti missile RD effort located within the 
Kwajalein atoll.  The missile site radar had banks of megnetic core, 
(hats off to Dr. Wang), memory multiple modules about four times the 
size of a traditional telephone booth.  Against the far wall (which was 
eight feet thick) were rows of tape drives that would literally shake 
the building just prior to the launch of intercptor missiles.

Sweet memories indeed!

JT


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Wow but Yikes!!! Was: powerbook g4 15 1.67ghz screen closing not sleeping laptop??

[James E. Therrault]

This is a great site but...

I have a G4 Aluminum Powerbook that I would like to put a larger HD such 
as 160 GB or larger.

I was appalled at the lousy industrial design in Apple notebooks as 
opposed to the pro level desktops.  Twenty-Two freakin' steps!  Might as 
well be an iBook.

Compare this to the ancient laptop, (the one and only), produced by 
Power Computing in 1997. It took all of six minutes to upgrade the HD in 
it!  Superb industrial design.

I can certainly see where Applecare is a must if you buy their laptop.

I think that my next one will be a munged PeeCee notebook that will run 
OS X.  At least it will be cheaper...

JT




artemis wrote:
 Hey there Jonas -
 
 Visit this site:
 
 http://www.ifixit.com/info/ID-your-Mac
 
 Once you've ID'd your model, they have brilliant downloadable
 illustrated hi-res step-by-step guides on how to do most things Mac -
 how to take your Powerbook apart to replace drives, screens,
 motherboards, power supplies etc - they even list the tools you'll
 need for the particular task. It'll show you how to access the magnets
 that Bruce mentioned in his post.


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Re: Wow but Yikes!!! Was: powerbook g4 15 1.67ghz screen closing not sleeping laptop??

[James E. Therrault]

Andy wrote:
Compare this to the ancient laptop, (the one and only), produced by
Power Computing in 1997. It took all of six minutes to upgrade the HD in
it!  Superb industrial design.
 
 
 I agree with you over the older Powerbooks/iBooks,however upgrading the HD
 in a Macbook takes about 3 mins.
 
 Andy
 


Thanks for the update.  OTOH, the failure rate of the newer notebooks is 
higher than the older ones.  sigh

As a retired process, (manufacturing), engineer, I have little patience 
when it comes to repair/maintenance procedures.  Guess that's why I 
still drive a (very) old car..

G

JT



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Re: Wow but Yikes!!! Was: powerbook g4 15 1.67ghz screen closing not sleeping laptop??

[James E. Therrault]

nestamicky wrote:

 
 
 James E. Therrault wrote:
 
Andy wrote:
  

Compare this to the ancient laptop, (the one and only), produced by
Power Computing in 1997. It took all of six minutes to upgrade the HD in
it!  Superb industrial design.
  

I agree with you over the older Powerbooks/iBooks,however upgrading the HD
in a Macbook takes about 3 mins.

Andy





Thanks for the update.  OTOH, the failure rate of the newer notebooks is 
higher than the older ones.  sigh

As a retired process, (manufacturing), engineer, I have little patience 
when it comes to repair/maintenance procedures.  Guess that's why I 
still drive a (very) old car..

G

JT

And while you have that old car, I need not ask you care for it like you 
would a child. Because the trend now is for us to drive computers...making it 
impossible for us to change even the oil. 

My old Studebaker will run even when the Iranians drop that surprise 
neutron bomb. Consider that the two ton beast gets up to 25mpg too. 
Even my gen II Honda Civic can be quickly converted to points 'n 
condenser and that gets 42mpg in mixed driving.


As regards Apple's laptops: I consider each journey into them, except 
the Pismo and Lombard, a challegene against Apple. Sticking it to them 
as they obviously do not want people in them, based on how they pack 
'em. But the zeal is draining...I've now for 4 months been dreading 
opening up an iBook with the dreaded video problem. And yes, I know 
about ifixit.

I had a 466 MHz clamshell with a paltry 10GB drive.  I was lucky in that 
I conned a local Mac Guru to change it out to a 120GB.  Freakin' HD was 
the last item in the case access-wise.

JT


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Re: Dumb Powerbook Question - Thanks To All That Replied

[James E. Therrault]

The task I have is to transfer a number of calls on my answering machine 
to a digital file. So I have to do it with a mike input.  I figured 
since the Powerbook has a built-in mike that I can set levels on, 
recording would be a simple task.

But of course, it ain't.

I'm probably gonna spring for QT pro...

JT




Andy wrote:

 On 1/4/09 2:36 PM, Doug Burton of slu...@embarqmail.com sent
 
 
 On Jan 4, 2009, at 1:23 PM, James E. Therrault wrote:
 
 
 I have an Aluminum Powerbook G4, 2GB ram, 1.25GHz processor
 that has a 
 built-in microphone. I know how to turn the microphone on,
 set the 
 levels how in the blazes do you record something?
 
 TIA,
 
 JT
 
 
 A very good question and the answer is you can't.  At least
 without downloading a sound editor or other recording software.
  Audacity comes to mind as adequate and free.  Not sure how
 Windows got that over OS X, but they have always included a
 simple sound recorder app.  HTH
 
 Just a message from Doug...
 
  
 
 Hello Doug,
 You’ll need one of any of a number of good, cheap (free) recording
 apps, like Audacity, Amadeus, or Audio Hijack (for ex.). These will
 know what your default input device is once booted up, and you’re
 good to go.
 HTH,
 Dana
 
 
 
 ...or you could launch QuickTime Player and choose filenew audio
 recording then click the red button when your ready. Very basic
 audio and I think you need to have QuickTime pro.
 
 Andy
 
 
  


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Re: Tattle tale????

[James E. Therrault]

insightinmind wrote:
 Snitch?
 
 Or was that OS  9 ...
 
 
 Bill Connelly
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Little Snitch is for OS X

JT


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