Re: [Audyssey] Entombed keystrokes list
Hello The keystroke for battle timeline is l. Cheers Dickson -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:44 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed keystrokes list Well, I just copied and pasted those off the commands page of the online manual. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed keystrokes list The t key actually selects your technique in battle, not the battle time line. I don't think there is a quick key for that. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4903 (20100228) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4903 (20100228) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4903 (20100228) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4901 (20100227) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4901 (20100227) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for February 2010
There were 155 thread titles. Here are the top 40. Adult games 58. programming 55. Need help fighting the Drake. 36. Early Survey Results 33. the entombed game 25. I r c 17. Entombed officially released! 16. usagamesinteractive.com down again! 16. Virus found at l-works.net blog 14. entopmbed jobs 13. Moderator's note,please read! Re: New Version of Monopoly Released 13. usagamesinteractive.com 13. Programming language comparison 12. Entombed Jobs 11. Sarah and castle of witchraft and vizardry 11. watership down game. 11. a new member 10. chess help 10. I think Bavisoft went belly up. 10. Q9? Where can it be downloaded? 10. Devana and thesiegelsnest 9. Bavisoft 8. Game Chat Reminder 8. Grizzly Gulch 8. Lusternia questions 8. Needing contact information. 8. Progress on the Blastbay game creation tool (Bgt) 8. VB Help Needed 8. 2 questions 7. An address 7. I'm on RS Monopoly this Sunday evening 7. Looking for the Sappy 5 voice Tom 7. A Chillingham Victory! 6. Any Begin2 fans out there? 6. chess game question 6. Chillingham, Please help? 6. Chillingham,. please help? 6. monopoly issue 6. off topic, but importent! 6. the bosses in entombed 6. The Crop of Devana 6. blind monks society: an accessible Half-life 2 Mod 5. blind monks society: an accessible Half-life 2 Mod 5. Core exiles 5. Entombed keystrokes list 5. entombed question 5. Fs note taker games 5. Homer game help 5. Moderator's note,please read! Re: New Version of Monopoly Released 5. New Version of Monopoly Released 5. Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for February 2010
98 people posted 754 messages. 94 From, Hayden Presley. 69 From, Thomas Ward. 68 From, dark. 66 From, Muhammed Deniz. 41 From, shaun everiss. 31 From, Bryan Peterson. 20 From, Jim Kitchen. 19 From, Jacob Kruger. 19 From, Steve. 17 From, Charles Rivard. 16 From, Josh. 15 From, Darren Harris. 11 From, Raul A. Gallegos. 11 From, Ron Schamerhorn. 10 From, Milos Przic. 10 From, Philip Bennefall. 9 From, tsiegel. 8 From, Gamers Chat Robot. 8 From, James Dietz. 8 From, key stone. 8 From, Mauricio Almeida. 7 From, Bogdan Muresan. 7 From, James Homuth. 7 From, Phil Vlasak. 7 From, william lomas. 6 From, clement chou. 6 From, Kevin Weispfennig. 6 From, Oriol Gómez. 6 From, Ryan Smith. 5 From, joe quinn. 5 From, Johnny Tai. 5 From, The Kolesar Brothers. 4 From, Angela Lerma. 4 From, Jorge Gonçalves. 4 From, Liam Erven. 4 From, Lisa Hayes. 4 From, Orin. 4 From, playful-puppy. 4 From, Shirley Starblanket. 4 From, Yohandy. 3 From, Brandon Misch. 3 From, Christopher Bartlett. 3 From, Claudio Zeni. 3 From, glenna burgess. 3 From, Harmony Neil. 3 From, ian mcnamara. 3 From, Munawar Bijani. 3 From, peter Mahach. 3 From, rory0608. 3 From, Tristan B. 3 From, Zachary Kline. 2 From, anouk. 2 From, computerwizry. 2 From, Damien Sadler. 2 From, Grace. 2 From, Hayri Tulumcu. 2 From, James Howard. 2 From, John Snowling. 2 From, Kai. 2 From, Keao Wright. 2 From, Kerry. 2 From, Michael Feir. 2 From, Ramy Moustafa. 2 From, Scott Chesworth. 2 From, simon dowling. 2 From, The Dealing Bandit. 2 From, Travis Siegel. 2 From, Valiant8086. 1 From, Chris Reagan. 1 From, Claudio. 1 From, darren_g_harris. 1 From, David Chittenden. 1 From, Diana Nowlin. 1 From, Dickson Tan. 1 From, Eleanor. 1 From, Gamers List Guidelines Robot. 1 From, Giulia Paggiarin. 1 From, Henry D. Reyes. 1 From, Jimmy Odin Kristoffersen. 1 From, Karl Belanger. 1 From, lirin. 1 From, Loravara. 1 From, Marja Karlsson. 1 From, matheus. 1 From, Matt. 1 From, Michael Forzano. 1 From, mike maslo. 1 From, MissWings. 1 From, Richard Sherman. 1 From, Ryan Chou. 1 From, Ryan Strunk. 1 From, Sabrina Markel. 1 From, Steve Britt. 1 From, Steve. 1 From, Tim Kilgore. 1 From, Trouble. 1 From, Willem. 1 From, William L. Houts. Archive file size 2500352 bytes Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Adult games
Hi Johnny, Yes, but in Puppy1 those are drone planes and the drones all eject before the plane crashes. grin But seriously Puppy1 and Battleship I think are my only war type games. Which does go against my anti war feelings, but they are not real violent I guess. BFN Jim I've never seen a good war or a bad piece! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for February 2010
I find it interesting that the longest threads have been going for just about the shortest time. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Audyssey Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for February 2010 There were 155 thread titles. Here are the top 40. Adult games 58. programming 55. Need help fighting the Drake. 36. Early Survey Results 33. the entombed game 25. I r c 17. Entombed officially released! 16. usagamesinteractive.com down again! 16. Virus found at l-works.net blog 14. entopmbed jobs 13. Moderator's note,please read! Re: New Version of Monopoly Released 13. usagamesinteractive.com 13. Programming language comparison 12. Entombed Jobs 11. Sarah and castle of witchraft and vizardry 11. watership down game. 11. a new member 10. chess help 10. I think Bavisoft went belly up. 10. Q9? Where can it be downloaded? 10. Devana and thesiegelsnest 9. Bavisoft 8. Game Chat Reminder 8. Grizzly Gulch 8. Lusternia questions 8. Needing contact information. 8. Progress on the Blastbay game creation tool (Bgt) 8. VB Help Needed 8. 2 questions 7. An address 7. I'm on RS Monopoly this Sunday evening 7. Looking for the Sappy 5 voice Tom 7. A Chillingham Victory! 6. Any Begin2 fans out there? 6. chess game question 6. Chillingham, Please help? 6. Chillingham,. please help? 6. monopoly issue 6. off topic, but importent! 6. the bosses in entombed 6. The Crop of Devana 6. blind monks society: an accessible Half-life 2 Mod 5. blind monks society: an accessible Half-life 2 Mod 5. Core exiles 5. Entombed keystrokes list 5. entombed question 5. Fs note taker games 5. Homer game help 5. Moderator's note,please read! Re: New Version of Monopoly Released 5. New Version of Monopoly Released 5. Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games
Hi. when a limb is actually cut off it needs to be reattached by the reattach spell, which gives you a menue of missing body parts then of body parts you can put there. As for the breastplate, that is plate armour, and thus can only be worn by characters with the plate armour skill, fighters and paladins. In entombed, to wear any armour other than cloth, that's hyde, leather, scale chain or plate, you need the correct skill. check the skills list under the jobs menue in character status and you'll see what armour skills you have, also putting extra points into armour skills affords you more protection when wearing that sort of armour. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Hi Dark, Can this be a severed anything? I have seen the game say that this character or other can put a severed hand on their right hand. One more question. I notice some equipment cannot be worn by my main character. For example, I am a Mail Human Bard Monk, and cannot seem to equip the breastplate you get from beating the Goblin King in level 6. Why is this so? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Indeed Tom. I'd say this is a floor with lots of rpgs, extremely uninteresting and undescriptive combat, especially those which rely heavily on hp mechanics. In the DD 2nd eddition books I've read, it specifically states that the hp should be taken as a guide to roleplay and an indicator for what damage is done and what condition someone is in, not as red that 100 percent = perfect health, 0 is death, and pretty much everything betwene is the same. I do admit the entombed system has taken quite a lot of balancing out, even up to a couple of versions ago, it was too easy for just about enemy on the lower floors to one shot a magic based character with a shot to the head or torso, but sinse Jason added more overall hp for those jobs it's been working very well and provides great stratogy and realism. Btw, miner spoiler but some fun! try picking up a severed head then looking in your equipment list for a rather amusing litle touch which has been in right from the very early private alphas. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:57 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Hi Dark, Yeah, so I've noticed. I am actually glad to see the more complex combat system in Entombed compared to a game like Sryth. With Sryth the combat system is rather lame and not too descriptive of the damage done to an enemy character. In Entombed you can chop an enemies legs out from under him, chop off a hand holding a weapon, or lop off his head. That makes it much more realistic and more fun. On 2/28/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: On the level of entombed, I will say that the purpose of the limb system was actually to make a far more interesting and realistic form of hp and damage taking than in most rpgs which just rely on a number of hp. that's why you can knock people over by hitting their feet, or disarm them by aiming for hands. that's why descriptions of hand mangling and indeed limb or head chopping are fairly minimal, because those aren't really a major point of the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games
Assassins actually don't have plate armour skill as far as I know, just leather and possibly the option of buying chain. at an increased skill cost. fighters and paladins are I believe the only ones with it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games That has to do with class, not race. A Bard or Monk can't wear plate armor from what I've noticed. I believe the only ones who can, or at least who actually have a plate armor skill, are the FIghter and possibly Assassin and Paladin. Someone feel free to clarify if I've left any out. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Hi Dark, Can this be a severed anything? I have seen the game say that this character or other can put a severed hand on their right hand. One more question. I notice some equipment cannot be worn by my main character. For example, I am a Mail Human Bard Monk, and cannot seem to equip the breastplate you get from beating the Goblin King in level 6. Why is this so? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Indeed Tom. I'd say this is a floor with lots of rpgs, extremely uninteresting and undescriptive combat, especially those which rely heavily on hp mechanics. In the DD 2nd eddition books I've read, it specifically states that the hp should be taken as a guide to roleplay and an indicator for what damage is done and what condition someone is in, not as red that 100 percent = perfect health, 0 is death, and pretty much everything betwene is the same. I do admit the entombed system has taken quite a lot of balancing out, even up to a couple of versions ago, it was too easy for just about enemy on the lower floors to one shot a magic based character with a shot to the head or torso, but sinse Jason added more overall hp for those jobs it's been working very well and provides great stratogy and realism. Btw, miner spoiler but some fun! try picking up a severed head then looking in your equipment list for a rather amusing litle touch which has been in right from the very early private alphas. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:57 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Hi Dark, Yeah, so I've noticed. I am actually glad to see the more complex combat system in Entombed compared to a game like Sryth. With Sryth the combat system is rather lame and not too descriptive of the damage done to an enemy character. In Entombed you can chop an enemies legs out from under him, chop off a hand holding a weapon, or lop off his head. That makes it much more realistic and more fun. On 2/28/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: On the level of entombed, I will say that the purpose of the limb system was actually to make a far more interesting and realistic form of hp and damage taking than in most rpgs which just rely on a number of hp. that's why you can knock people over by hitting their feet, or disarm them by aiming for hands. that's why descriptions of hand mangling and indeed limb or head chopping are fairly minimal, because those aren't really a major point of the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make
Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results
Hi Muhammed, Producing audiogames is NOT always free. Developers need to pay for web hosting, sound effects, voice actors, background music, and depending on the game: a VPS, dedicated server or sound library. If someone puts lots of time and energy into something, they should get pay for it. If you think programming is just clicking around, then I suggest trying it yourself. Thanks. -Ryan On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.comwrote: Then if they do it as a hobby, why do they sell the games?. The best sight for games is, audio games! Go to. www.audiogames.net msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Monopoly.
I'm getting monopoly version 9 put on my laptop. Do you have to turn Jaws off to play it? Thanks, Diana Nowlin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Hello Thomas, To target different body parts: 1 Just before you select your target hit and hold down one of the number row keys 1-8. 1 = lower left)left leg or left foot). 3 = lower right(leg or foot) 4 = left arm or hand. 6 = right arm or hand 5 = torso 8 = head. Hope this helps, Greg W. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Hi Richard, that's some very valuable information. However, how exactly to you target a specific part of the body. Every time I play it seams like the game picks a body part at random. If there is a specific way to turn the random attack off and give me the choice of head, body, legs, hands, whatever please let me know. I've been wondering if there was a more inteligent way of targeting and directing my attacks to do the most damage and the most good against any enemy let alone the Drake. Thanks. On 2/27/10, Richard Sherman squir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Possible spoilers ahead, so read at your own risk. s p o i l e r s p a c e Most magic does not work on the drake. There are a couple that work really well. They are shrink, curse, and web. I think that slow also works on the drake. There are a couple others, but cannot remember exactly right off. Sure someone else will elaborate. The shrink is special in that the drake takes more damage, and dishes out less when shrunk. The shrink spell can be cast by mages, and found on certain scrolls. But it only lasts a short time, depending on the level of the spell. Or, make any of your party grow. Especially the fighters. They will do quite a bit of damage when all grown up. Curse is good in that the drake will receive maximum damage, while always dishing out minimum damage. This spell lasts for the entire length of the battle. The curse spell can only be cast from a scroll. The web can only be cast by a scroll. Unless you have a spider skeleton handy. it will make the drake immobile, and unable to move. This too is a limited time effect. Also, anything that strengthens your party is good. Enlighten, grow and haste come to mind. Ice blast also seems to do more damage than fire bolt. Don't waste flurry on the drake. Your fighter will then stand around too much afterwards. Target the head. You might hit the neck also. This is the most vulnerable spot on the drake. The only problem is that you have a slightly higher probability of missing. But if your fighter connects, it will definitely do some damage. Save before battling the drake. If all fails, restart the game and try again. Or, if possible, go past the drake and come back later when you have more hp per character, or more powerful and appropriate scrolls. HTH. rich - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:30 PM Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone here can give me some advice on defeating the Drake on level 7. I can't get passed him no matter how many times I try. Basically, here is what I have to work with. Cassandra --- A human female fighter/necromancer equipt with a long sword and the best armour I could find for her. Alair --- a half-elf mail healer/Druid. He is armed with a blackwood staff and light armour/cloathing. Dara --- a female half-elf fighter/ranger with bronze armour, legendary long swords, duel wield at 5, flurry 5, and basically you don't want to mess with her because your likely to loose a head, arm, and basically get chopped up in the process. Lupercus -- My wolf companion. Undead skeleton orc fighter/mage. He is under Cassandra's control and was raised from the dead to help out in the battle. Summoned Animal --- any bat, wolf, or rat I can summon to the battle ground to fight the Drake. As you can see I've got what I thought was a good party. I can really kick the crap out of the Drake, but not enough to actually slay the dragon. When he hits me with a fire attack everyone takes heavy damage and most of my party members usually wind up dead with several limbs missing. In the last major fight Casssandra lost a leg, arm, and ended up dying after the Drake bit her head off, and then spit it out on the floor. Its like impossible to take him down without being malled or roasted to death. Any suggestions/help? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed officially released!
Hi Michael, Yeah, he probably should add that to the wiki so people would know to do that. Although, a better alternative is if he would add some sort of versioning system to the saved games themselves so that when you upgrade the game would read the version info stored in the file, and delete it automatically if it doesn't match the current release number. On 2/24/10, Michael Feir michael.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matheus and everyone else who has quickly come to my aid. Matheus's suggestion did the trick. I just deleted the contents of the all players folder in the saved games folder and tried running it again. Jayson should let people know to do that if they have similar issues. A very nifty way to register a game. The only issues I can see him running into are people whose firewalls interfere. Michael Feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: matheus an...@bol.com.br To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed officially released! hi. also, try removing your old save games, located at My Documents\SavedGames\EntombedSaves\AllPlayers and see if it works. HTH. -Mensagem original- De: dark d...@xgam.org Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Quinta, 25 de Fevereiro de 2010 00:52 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed officially released! There is no registration code actually Michael. You create an account which is tied to an E-mail address, and if that's the address you paid with the game is raegistered, if not let Jason know and he'll fix it. The restart error is more serious. firstly, have you downloaded the full entomed setup from the site rather than the update? That should've already installed any required redistributables like the net framework if you didn't have them, that should hopefully work. If your stil having trouble, try E-mailing Jason to ask. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Michael Feir michael.f...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed officially released! I bought the game but am having no luck so far. I haven't received any registration code yet. However, I can't even get the game to start on either my desktop or netbook. I've even downloaded all the redistributables from the site and run those. Nothing has worked yet. An older version successfullly ran on my computer so I figured I was pretty safe in buying it. Hope others are having better luck and a solution for my system can be found. Michael Feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed officially released! Absolutely George. jason has said he'd like to take up developement full time if he gets the support, so the more people buy this the better, asside from the fact that of course it's a fantastic game in it's own right! Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed officially released! Thank you very much! If it's that great game, 39.99 usd is not much! What we need is great games like that, and encourage developers is essential if we want more and better games. Let's all try and discuss this game and all its features. Jorge Gonçalves Email MSN: jopo...@hotmail.com Skype Username: joport3 Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed officially released! It's 39.99 usd (the site needs a litle redesigning). Yes, this is at the higher end of the audio games price range, but considdering that this is one of, if not literally the most replayable audio games out there, it's well worth it, and I can certainly recommend the full 25 floors and range of jobs as distinctly worth seeing. Btw, there are yet more bennifits planned if you buy the game as well even
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly.
Hi Diana, No, you do not need to turn Jaws off to play my monopoly game. You can though since it does use the sapi5 text to speech engine. And in case you have not done so, you really should before installing any of my text to speech games, down load the WinKit.zip file and run the setup.exe install program in it. That will create the Kitchensinc folder, it's listing in the programs list and install a game menu system to launch the rest of the games. The WinKit.zip file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech games page. I hope that helps. BFN - Original Message - I'm getting monopoly version 9 put on my laptop. Do you have to turn Jaws off to play it? Thanks, Diana Nowlin --- Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly.
What version are you getting, Jim's? - Original Message - From: Diana Nowlin dinow...@sasktel.net To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Monopoly. I'm getting monopoly version 9 put on my laptop. Do you have to turn Jaws off to play it? Thanks, Diana Nowlin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly.
nope, you play it with jaws. mauricio -Mensagem original- De: Diana Nowlin dinow...@sasktel.net Para: Gamers@audyssey.org Data: Sexta, 26 de Fevereiro de 2010 17:34 Assunto: [Audyssey] Monopoly. I'm getting monopoly version 9 put on my laptop. Do you have to turn Jaws off to play it? Thanks, Diana Nowlin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Hi, Thanks guys. I've got it now. I've been putting that skill to good use in my various combats. In fact it just saved my bacon in a bloody and gory battle with the Goblin King on level 6. Although, it was a case of winning the battle but not the war. On 2/27/10, Greg gwblindm...@gwblindman.org wrote: Hello Thomas, To target different body parts: 1 Just before you select your target hit and hold down one of the number row keys 1-8. 1 = lower left)left leg or left foot). 3 = lower right(leg or foot) 4 = left arm or hand. 6 = right arm or hand 5 = torso 8 = head. Hope this helps, Greg W. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Hi, Bite your tongue. I've only once made it to the Drake in tact, and in my current game a battle with the Goblin King widdled my party down to one character. And ironically not the strongest or best of my characters. She got lucky slaying the Goblin King because Cassandra softened him up enough that Dara could hit him in the head with a firebolt and kill him. However, I was pretty much dead in the water because Dara was missing an arm and a leg which meant she couldn't exactly move on and fight the Drake. The game certainly is not easy. I've had to restart several times, and I've never beaten the Drake at all. I'm usually malled long before i reach that point. Lol! On 2/28/10, Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca wrote: Hi I'll agree, I've beaten the Drake many times and with various combos of races and jobs. Most recently I had the Drake grappled by my ogre brawler which made for some easy pickings. I dislike some views of oh you have to do it this way. Also I've never went past the Drake for more XP and came back. I've always taken it out on the way down. It's a battle you can win, though not always an easy one. Ron --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Hi Dark, Well, one of the problems is I'm not finding any scrolls like that here. I once found a curse scroll, and a shrink scroll but that is it. The general store in Twilight Town absolutely sucks. All I've ever seen there is poor and dubious quality weapons, and now and then a sspell scroll. Other than that it is basically a useless feature of the game. I wonder if my problem is that I'm playing the demo and Jason has intentionally removed certain weapons, scrolls, etc required to play the game effectively, or Jason is intentionally forcing you to find this stuff at random. If so I'm not having a lot of luck finding good equipment and scrolls to use against the Drake, or even against the Goblin King for that matter. In my last battle he almost single handedly whiped my party out. So to be completely honest here while I do like the game it isn't designed for a new player at all. I'm having extreme difficulty playing it, and I'm growing extremely frustrated with it. I would like to see the game be better balanced and some of these enemies made slightly easier. That's coming from someone who normally doesn't complain about a game being difficult, but I find Entombed insanely so. Perhaps someone could write a manual or strat guide that actually explains something in detail? One of the reasons I haven't purchased the game is I think Jason needs to provide some documentation for the game. I keep trying to look something up only to get the message that this or that is not available yet. Well, if he wants to sell the game Jason is going to have to write some detailed documentation or get someone who is a skilled player to write it. I'm growing sick and tired of not having a manual for the game. I'm of half a mind to write him personally and ask him to hurry up and write the manual so I have something to refer too.I should not have to ask the list how to target a body part, because the so-called documentation doesn't bother to mention it. Needless to say I'm a bit ticked off that I'm obviously missing a good portion of information because the documentation absolutely sucks. Frown On 2/28/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. The important thing to remember about the drake is that he gets fewer attacks than you do. so, you need to make fewer count. Thus, shrinking him with a mage is always a good plan, as are using slow scrolls on him while using haste scrolls on yourself. Confusion scrolls also help sinse he'll be attacking himself some of the time, as do web and paralize scrolls for obvious reasons. Also, with a melee setup like the one you've got, your probably best off aiming at the drakes' abdomin or neck, sinse the drake can suffer manglement in either place with enough damage. Lastly, remember that for every technique you use there's a price, sinse every technique has a much longer cool down time than normal fight commands. Thus, doing a flurry or multishot should be thought about carefully, particularly if you combine it with something like sneak attack to do extra damage. Lastly, remember the importance of passive skills like duel ield and (for certain classes), crytical hits. I've defeated the drake at level 7 with various party setups, bu have always needed to use scrolls etc to tweak the odds. Hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Hi Muhammed, Oh, I wish. My weapons only do between 3 to 5 damage to the Drake. Remember all I have is pretty much junk weapons I picked up around the game. Other than the armour and weapons you get from slaying the Goblin King the rest are just dubious rated crap that is common throughout the game. Seriously, I'd like to know where and how to get better weapons and armour. I know Twilight Town is useless. I've found better weapons and armour on the floor than the Town. All it has is poor and dubious rated junk. On 2/28/10, Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello Thomas, s p o i l e r s p a c e Now, this is the technique I use. If your necro's swords did 50 damage, then you could kill him. But if it does 100 dammage, you could kill him in two hits. So 50 4, and 100 2. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results
Hi, Exactly. There is always some misconception that writing these games is free or doesn't cost anything to produce. Nothing could be further from the truth. They usually cost a lot to produce when you add up money spend on professional sound effects, music, voice acting, web space to say the least about the developers time and training. Even though the developer might be doing it purely for fun as I do it still costs time and money to complete. So yes developers deserve to get some money back for developing it. On 2/28/10, Ryan Smith computerwi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Muhammed, Producing audiogames is NOT always free. Developers need to pay for web hosting, sound effects, voice actors, background music, and depending on the game: a VPS, dedicated server or sound library. If someone puts lots of time and energy into something, they should get pay for it. If you think programming is just clicking around, then I suggest trying it yourself. Thanks. -Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Hi Tom. Well, jason has stated that now that the last few bugs are dealt with docs are next on the list, pluss, sinse the docs are a wiki, apparently it's possible for anyone to contribute by creating an account and loguing in (I well might do so myself). As for your difficulties, well mages have the ability to shrink, which is a start against the drake. It is true jason has tweaked the system so that decent and good items are found further down, but you should be finding scrolls in the shop unless Jason has indeed removed some of those in the demo version of the game. There was a point where Jason upped the difficulty a trifle too far, (where the drake was near impossible), but I'd say it's about there now, ie, difficult but possible. If however some scrolls are missing in the demo, that might indeed change the balance particularly of the drake battle, which would be inconvenient. While I agree about lack of documentation, heck, I was on the private alpha team and there are stil some things I'd like clarrified by a manual, I will say that this is only a temporary hitch, and that once either Jason or players create documentation things should work out, I'm just sorry that your caught out with this, and not able to appreciate all the good points about the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Early Survey Results
Hi Dark, Sure. However, with a game like Entombed you really do need Sapi support for the simple fact of speaking character names and things like that there is no way you can prerecord those unless you basically come up with a name list to select from. That might be ok, but lacks a greater degree of choice. As far as free voices goes there aren't that many that sound as good as Scansoft Daniel or Scansoft Tom. Most are robotic and inhuman sounding like Microsoft Sam and ESpeak. Although, Microsoft Anna sounds decent, and those users upgrading to Windos 7 will have at least one decent voice to play with. So were I to go with Sapi support I'd have to document where to buy better quality voices, or tell them to upgrade to Windows 7. Not a great solution, but if people are truly interested in the products they might pay for the better voices. On 2/26/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Funnily enough Tom, I don't think I've ever actually quit hal for a game, I just flick the voice and/or keys off as needed. In fact, I've frequently used pause time in a game to go and do something like check E-mails, or, especially in the case of entombed, leave the game running in the background while I either check facts in game or answer questions and rive reports on how I'm doing, which I obviously write with Hal. Thus Sapi support is doubly handy for me, sinse I don't even use the sapi voice to speak in Hal (though i could). the ownly downer I can see with sapi, as in fact i said to Jason over screen reader support in entombed, is that when jo technical newby blogs switches on a game, he's not going to be too chuffed to hear the microsoft voices rather than his favourite screen reader voice which, these days is probably a good quality proprietory one such as realspeak. This might put him off playing games, which would be a shame. possibly though this is an issue which developers could solve with adequate documentation the way both Jim and indeed Ian humphries have, by explaining the relationship of the ms voices, and offering links and instructions to download and run the best free voices available alongside their games. I must confess I used ms sam for a while and stil played the games, but then again I've been using Hal long enough to remember the first versions of orphius, not to mention devices like the old talking calculators or braille and speaks, which had the worst synth voices imaginable, so I'm probably not the best person to give opinions on voice quality, pluss all this being said, I now stil have scansoft daniel for my sapi voice, and wouldn't be overly keen to go back to the microsoft ones. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Hi Dark, Well, I do appreciate the game, and the scope of complexity. However, I am very frustrated with the fact that I can't get my questions answered or clarified by reading the documentation. I'm of an old school opinion that if you sell something you must provide the end user with quality documentation, and give them an overview of all of the game's features. For this reason I feel as though Jason rushed Entombed to final production without completing the documentation and there are still bugs that could be fixed. I've had the game crash three or four times while playing that certainly wasn't cool. However, I am glad Jason is aware of the problem, and has plans to work on the documentation. It is something I feel is needed, especially for a new user like me, and hope he is willing to go into some detail. I'd like to see the advantages and disadvantages of certain races and jobs. I'd like to see a weapons list of what kind of weapons are in the game, quality, and what certain scrolls do. I didn't use certain scrolls simply because I didn't know what they were suppose to do, or when to use them. It is kind of confusing having say a level 4 focus scroll in your inventory and having no clue what it does, when to use it, and so on. Not knowing how to use it is pretty much the same as not having it in my book. Anyway, I'm admitedly in something of a crabby mood. I actually do love the game, but I'd like to know how to play it. I'm tired of making it to say the Goblin King and having my entire party completely whiped out in a couple of combat turns against the Goblin King. I like the challenge, but it would be nice to have an idea how to play so that doesn't happen. Yeah, maybe loose one or two people, but to have my entire party chopped up like roast beaf is not too cool at all.I just feel at times like that I am not a good player, or that I'm lacking some vital information that more experienced players such as yourself have. When I here players saying they kicked the Drake's butt, he is pretty easy, I'm feeling inaduquit to play the game. Like I can't play the game right, and I'm probably making lots of stupid new player mistakes. Cheers! On 3/1/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Well, jason has stated that now that the last few bugs are dealt with docs are next on the list, pluss, sinse the docs are a wiki, apparently it's possible for anyone to contribute by creating an account and loguing in (I well might do so myself). As for your difficulties, well mages have the ability to shrink, which is a start against the drake. It is true jason has tweaked the system so that decent and good items are found further down, but you should be finding scrolls in the shop unless Jason has indeed removed some of those in the demo version of the game. There was a point where Jason upped the difficulty a trifle too far, (where the drake was near impossible), but I'd say it's about there now, ie, difficult but possible. If however some scrolls are missing in the demo, that might indeed change the balance particularly of the drake battle, which would be inconvenient. While I agree about lack of documentation, heck, I was on the private alpha team and there are stil some things I'd like clarrified by a manual, I will say that this is only a temporary hitch, and that once either Jason or players create documentation things should work out, I'm just sorry that your caught out with this, and not able to appreciate all the good points about the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games
Hi Dark, I have to say Entombed has given me lots of ideas to help my own RPG project along. Mine will not exactly be like Entombed of course, but the combat system in Entombed is definitely something like I'd want to use. Being able to chop off a hand, arm, or leg in battle is something that could realistically happen, and would give you a big tactical advantage. I've noticed, for example, that the Goblin King is almost impossible to damage with direct chest attack because of the body armour. Aiming for his legs though are a weak point and you can easily knock him down so he has to take a turn standing back up, or you can chop off a leg or foot so he can't stand up at all to begin with. That's an element I really like about the game, and would like to see in more RPG games. As for looking at an enemies head I've got to see this. Laer tonight when I get back on Entombed I'll try it. I'm sure I can behead somebody for that purpose. Although, I need to restart from scratch. The last game gave me lemons for characters with crappy skills and abilitys. On 2/28/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Indeed Tom. I'd say this is a floor with lots of rpgs, extremely uninteresting and undescriptive combat, especially those which rely heavily on hp mechanics. In the DD 2nd eddition books I've read, it specifically states that the hp should be taken as a guide to roleplay and an indicator for what damage is done and what condition someone is in, not as red that 100 percent = perfect health, 0 is death, and pretty much everything betwene is the same. I do admit the entombed system has taken quite a lot of balancing out, even up to a couple of versions ago, it was too easy for just about enemy on the lower floors to one shot a magic based character with a shot to the head or torso, but sinse Jason added more overall hp for those jobs it's been working very well and provides great stratogy and realism. Btw, miner spoiler but some fun! try picking up a severed head then looking in your equipment list for a rather amusing litle touch which has been in right from the very early private alphas. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Hi Tom. Well, there is in fact a list of conditions and spell effects in the docs which will tell you for instance, what focus scrolls do, see http://wiki.blind-games.com/wiki/doku.php?id=entombed-conditions for details. If Jason has missed certain scrolls out of the demo, that would explain difficulty of the drake battle, sinse many job combinations can only get through that battle thanks to a scroll or two to ease things along. I must admit I generally approve of the difficulty, sinse it's good to have an rpg where you actually need to think about stratogy, considder who is in your party, what the battle order is and how best to use each characters' techniques or magic during the game rather than hammering fight all the time and hoping for the best, which unfortunately seems to be what happens in many games. The down side to this, is that the system is more complex and indeed does take some getting used to, however, as you'll gather I'd say it's well worth it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Hi Dark, Well, I do appreciate the game, and the scope of complexity. However, I am very frustrated with the fact that I can't get my questions answered or clarified by reading the documentation. I'm of an old school opinion that if you sell something you must provide the end user with quality documentation, and give them an overview of all of the game's features. For this reason I feel as though Jason rushed Entombed to final production without completing the documentation and there are still bugs that could be fixed. I've had the game crash three or four times while playing that certainly wasn't cool. However, I am glad Jason is aware of the problem, and has plans to work on the documentation. It is something I feel is needed, especially for a new user like me, and hope he is willing to go into some detail. I'd like to see the advantages and disadvantages of certain races and jobs. I'd like to see a weapons list of what kind of weapons are in the game, quality, and what certain scrolls do. I didn't use certain scrolls simply because I didn't know what they were suppose to do, or when to use them. It is kind of confusing having say a level 4 focus scroll in your inventory and having no clue what it does, when to use it, and so on. Not knowing how to use it is pretty much the same as not having it in my book. Anyway, I'm admitedly in something of a crabby mood. I actually do love the game, but I'd like to know how to play it. I'm tired of making it to say the Goblin King and having my entire party completely whiped out in a couple of combat turns against the Goblin King. I like the challenge, but it would be nice to have an idea how to play so that doesn't happen. Yeah, maybe loose one or two people, but to have my entire party chopped up like roast beaf is not too cool at all.I just feel at times like that I am not a good player, or that I'm lacking some vital information that more experienced players such as yourself have. When I here players saying they kicked the Drake's butt, he is pretty easy, I'm feeling inaduquit to play the game. Like I can't play the game right, and I'm probably making lots of stupid new player mistakes. Cheers! On 3/1/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Well, jason has stated that now that the last few bugs are dealt with docs are next on the list, pluss, sinse the docs are a wiki, apparently it's possible for anyone to contribute by creating an account and loguing in (I well might do so myself). As for your difficulties, well mages have the ability to shrink, which is a start against the drake. It is true jason has tweaked the system so that decent and good items are found further down, but you should be finding scrolls in the shop unless Jason has indeed removed some of those in the demo version of the game. There was a point where Jason upped the difficulty a trifle too far, (where the drake was near impossible), but I'd say it's about there now, ie, difficult but possible. If however some scrolls are missing in the demo, that might indeed change the balance particularly of the drake battle, which would be inconvenient. While I agree about lack of documentation, heck, I was on the private alpha team and there are stil some things I'd like clarrified by a manual, I will say that this is only a temporary hitch, and that once either Jason or players create documentation things should work out, I'm just sorry that your caught out with this, and not able to appreciate all the good points about the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Oh no, you can find them in the demo, but it's extremely hit and miss. That sort of thing is why I remain firmly convinced that defeating the Drake at least, even if not the other bosses, is based far more on luck than on skill. There's absolutely no guarantee that you'll find any of the more useful scrolls before you get to the Drake, and if you don't have a Mage to shrink him, which in any case doesn't always work, you could be screwed since there's really no way to protect against the Drake's attacks. It's perfectly possible for him to one-shot you with his physical attacks if he happens to hit your torso or head, which I've noticed he does more often than not. And if you get really unlucky and he's blocking the stairs you're basically out of luck. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Hi Dark, Well, one of the problems is I'm not finding any scrolls like that here. I once found a curse scroll, and a shrink scroll but that is it. The general store in Twilight Town absolutely sucks. All I've ever seen there is poor and dubious quality weapons, and now and then a sspell scroll. Other than that it is basically a useless feature of the game. I wonder if my problem is that I'm playing the demo and Jason has intentionally removed certain weapons, scrolls, etc required to play the game effectively, or Jason is intentionally forcing you to find this stuff at random. If so I'm not having a lot of luck finding good equipment and scrolls to use against the Drake, or even against the Goblin King for that matter. In my last battle he almost single handedly whiped my party out. So to be completely honest here while I do like the game it isn't designed for a new player at all. I'm having extreme difficulty playing it, and I'm growing extremely frustrated with it. I would like to see the game be better balanced and some of these enemies made slightly easier. That's coming from someone who normally doesn't complain about a game being difficult, but I find Entombed insanely so. Perhaps someone could write a manual or strat guide that actually explains something in detail? One of the reasons I haven't purchased the game is I think Jason needs to provide some documentation for the game. I keep trying to look something up only to get the message that this or that is not available yet. Well, if he wants to sell the game Jason is going to have to write some detailed documentation or get someone who is a skilled player to write it. I'm growing sick and tired of not having a manual for the game. I'm of half a mind to write him personally and ask him to hurry up and write the manual so I have something to refer too.I should not have to ask the list how to target a body part, because the so-called documentation doesn't bother to mention it. Needless to say I'm a bit ticked off that I'm obviously missing a good portion of information because the documentation absolutely sucks. Frown On 2/28/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. The important thing to remember about the drake is that he gets fewer attacks than you do. so, you need to make fewer count. Thus, shrinking him with a mage is always a good plan, as are using slow scrolls on him while using haste scrolls on yourself. Confusion scrolls also help sinse he'll be attacking himself some of the time, as do web and paralize scrolls for obvious reasons. Also, with a melee setup like the one you've got, your probably best off aiming at the drakes' abdomin or neck, sinse the drake can suffer manglement in either place with enough damage. Lastly, remember that for every technique you use there's a price, sinse every technique has a much longer cool down time than normal fight commands. Thus, doing a flurry or multishot should be thought about carefully, particularly if you combine it with something like sneak attack to do extra damage. Lastly, remember the importance of passive skills like duel ield and (for certain classes), crytical hits. I've defeated the drake at level 7 with various party setups, bu have always needed to use scrolls etc to tweak the odds. Hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
The Gobblin King is one reason I like to have a Mage in my party for the Shrink spell, which you should be able to max out quite easily by the time you get there. Since the Gobblin King generally inflicts the most damage it's a good idea to shrink him or even Charm him if you happen to have that ability. I wouldn't take him out first if only because of the Necromancer. One common strategy when dealing with a party that includes a Necromancer is to take out the Necro first since then he can't resurrect anybody. The skeletons often do at least as much damage as they did in life and they can take much more of a beating. I'd take out the Necro first and then try to focus on the king since he generally causes the most damage. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Hi Dark, Well, I do appreciate the game, and the scope of complexity. However, I am very frustrated with the fact that I can't get my questions answered or clarified by reading the documentation. I'm of an old school opinion that if you sell something you must provide the end user with quality documentation, and give them an overview of all of the game's features. For this reason I feel as though Jason rushed Entombed to final production without completing the documentation and there are still bugs that could be fixed. I've had the game crash three or four times while playing that certainly wasn't cool. However, I am glad Jason is aware of the problem, and has plans to work on the documentation. It is something I feel is needed, especially for a new user like me, and hope he is willing to go into some detail. I'd like to see the advantages and disadvantages of certain races and jobs. I'd like to see a weapons list of what kind of weapons are in the game, quality, and what certain scrolls do. I didn't use certain scrolls simply because I didn't know what they were suppose to do, or when to use them. It is kind of confusing having say a level 4 focus scroll in your inventory and having no clue what it does, when to use it, and so on. Not knowing how to use it is pretty much the same as not having it in my book. Anyway, I'm admitedly in something of a crabby mood. I actually do love the game, but I'd like to know how to play it. I'm tired of making it to say the Goblin King and having my entire party completely whiped out in a couple of combat turns against the Goblin King. I like the challenge, but it would be nice to have an idea how to play so that doesn't happen. Yeah, maybe loose one or two people, but to have my entire party chopped up like roast beaf is not too cool at all.I just feel at times like that I am not a good player, or that I'm lacking some vital information that more experienced players such as yourself have. When I here players saying they kicked the Drake's butt, he is pretty easy, I'm feeling inaduquit to play the game. Like I can't play the game right, and I'm probably making lots of stupid new player mistakes. Cheers! On 3/1/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Well, jason has stated that now that the last few bugs are dealt with docs are next on the list, pluss, sinse the docs are a wiki, apparently it's possible for anyone to contribute by creating an account and loguing in (I well might do so myself). As for your difficulties, well mages have the ability to shrink, which is a start against the drake. It is true jason has tweaked the system so that decent and good items are found further down, but you should be finding scrolls in the shop unless Jason has indeed removed some of those in the demo version of the game. There was a point where Jason upped the difficulty a trifle too far, (where the drake was near impossible), but I'd say it's about there now, ie, difficult but possible. If however some scrolls are missing in the demo, that might indeed change the balance particularly of the drake battle, which would be inconvenient. While I agree about lack of documentation, heck, I was on the private alpha team and there are stil some things I'd like clarrified by a manual, I will say that this is only a temporary hitch, and that once either Jason or players create documentation things should work out, I'm just sorry that your caught out with this, and not able to appreciate all the good points about the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
As I've said on the entombed list here Bryan, I'm afraid I don't agree on this point. Now that the drake is more vulnerable to magic from scrolls, any of a number, including confusion, slow, curse paralize or web will do, not to mention haste, empowerment, focus or enlightenment for your party (which all increase damage and accuracy). I don't think I've ever got to the drake without having one or other of these, often bought from the general store. Then, there is always shrink and knock down. In fact, the way I defeated the drake in 2.41, in possibly one of his nastiest encarnations was having an ogre brawler who alternated betwene bash, which meant the drake was spending half his turns standing up, and grapple (which admittedly is only possible either with an ogre, or with a shrunken drake). This worked, allthough I lost all the rest of my party apart from my pet at the time, and the current drake is a great deal easier than at that point. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Oh no, you can find them in the demo, but it's extremely hit and miss. That sort of thing is why I remain firmly convinced that defeating the Drake at least, even if not the other bosses, is based far more on luck than on skill. There's absolutely no guarantee that you'll find any of the more useful scrolls before you get to the Drake, and if you don't have a Mage to shrink him, which in any case doesn't always work, you could be screwed since there's really no way to protect against the Drake's attacks. It's perfectly possible for him to one-shot you with his physical attacks if he happens to hit your torso or head, which I've noticed he does more often than not. And if you get really unlucky and he's blocking the stairs you're basically out of luck. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Hi Dark, Well, one of the problems is I'm not finding any scrolls like that here. I once found a curse scroll, and a shrink scroll but that is it. The general store in Twilight Town absolutely sucks. All I've ever seen there is poor and dubious quality weapons, and now and then a sspell scroll. Other than that it is basically a useless feature of the game. I wonder if my problem is that I'm playing the demo and Jason has intentionally removed certain weapons, scrolls, etc required to play the game effectively, or Jason is intentionally forcing you to find this stuff at random. If so I'm not having a lot of luck finding good equipment and scrolls to use against the Drake, or even against the Goblin King for that matter. In my last battle he almost single handedly whiped my party out. So to be completely honest here while I do like the game it isn't designed for a new player at all. I'm having extreme difficulty playing it, and I'm growing extremely frustrated with it. I would like to see the game be better balanced and some of these enemies made slightly easier. That's coming from someone who normally doesn't complain about a game being difficult, but I find Entombed insanely so. Perhaps someone could write a manual or strat guide that actually explains something in detail? One of the reasons I haven't purchased the game is I think Jason needs to provide some documentation for the game. I keep trying to look something up only to get the message that this or that is not available yet. Well, if he wants to sell the game Jason is going to have to write some detailed documentation or get someone who is a skilled player to write it. I'm growing sick and tired of not having a manual for the game. I'm of half a mind to write him personally and ask him to hurry up and write the manual so I have something to refer too.I should not have to ask the list how to target a body part, because the so-called documentation doesn't bother to mention it. Needless to say I'm a bit ticked off that I'm obviously missing a good portion of information because the documentation absolutely sucks. Frown On 2/28/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. The important thing to remember about the drake is that he gets fewer attacks than you do. so, you need to make fewer count. Thus, shrinking him with a mage is always a good plan, as are using slow scrolls on him while using haste scrolls on yourself. Confusion scrolls also help sinse he'll be attacking himself some of the time, as do web and paralize scrolls for obvious reasons. Also, with a melee setup like the one you've got, your probably best off aiming at the drakes' abdomin
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Indeed Bryan, go for the necro first. usually, If I've got a necro on my own side I find iceblasts to the head do very well against the king, and can put him down very quickly, as can using chalm and then watching him chop up his comrades. Druids are also good sinse high level lightening can hit multiple targits, provided you stop using it when someone is down to prevent raising their corpse as a zombi, several lightning blasts can usually bring the king and his merry bnd to their knee to th point wher it's only necesry to knok afew more of them out. hm, your making me want to strt another run now myself ;D. Bware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] entombed
hi thomas, did you buy entombed yet? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ok, it may not be sporting, but. . .
I won't speak for anyone else, but I just want the full set of choices for character race and class combinations. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
I've had that happen to me quite a few times. I've gotten there without finding a single scroll period once or twice, much less any of the ones that work. So in a way my argument does stand. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. As I've said on the entombed list here Bryan, I'm afraid I don't agree on this point. Now that the drake is more vulnerable to magic from scrolls, any of a number, including confusion, slow, curse paralize or web will do, not to mention haste, empowerment, focus or enlightenment for your party (which all increase damage and accuracy). I don't think I've ever got to the drake without having one or other of these, often bought from the general store. Then, there is always shrink and knock down. In fact, the way I defeated the drake in 2.41, in possibly one of his nastiest encarnations was having an ogre brawler who alternated betwene bash, which meant the drake was spending half his turns standing up, and grapple (which admittedly is only possible either with an ogre, or with a shrunken drake). This worked, allthough I lost all the rest of my party apart from my pet at the time, and the current drake is a great deal easier than at that point. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Oh no, you can find them in the demo, but it's extremely hit and miss. That sort of thing is why I remain firmly convinced that defeating the Drake at least, even if not the other bosses, is based far more on luck than on skill. There's absolutely no guarantee that you'll find any of the more useful scrolls before you get to the Drake, and if you don't have a Mage to shrink him, which in any case doesn't always work, you could be screwed since there's really no way to protect against the Drake's attacks. It's perfectly possible for him to one-shot you with his physical attacks if he happens to hit your torso or head, which I've noticed he does more often than not. And if you get really unlucky and he's blocking the stairs you're basically out of luck. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Hi Dark, Well, one of the problems is I'm not finding any scrolls like that here. I once found a curse scroll, and a shrink scroll but that is it. The general store in Twilight Town absolutely sucks. All I've ever seen there is poor and dubious quality weapons, and now and then a sspell scroll. Other than that it is basically a useless feature of the game. I wonder if my problem is that I'm playing the demo and Jason has intentionally removed certain weapons, scrolls, etc required to play the game effectively, or Jason is intentionally forcing you to find this stuff at random. If so I'm not having a lot of luck finding good equipment and scrolls to use against the Drake, or even against the Goblin King for that matter. In my last battle he almost single handedly whiped my party out. So to be completely honest here while I do like the game it isn't designed for a new player at all. I'm having extreme difficulty playing it, and I'm growing extremely frustrated with it. I would like to see the game be better balanced and some of these enemies made slightly easier. That's coming from someone who normally doesn't complain about a game being difficult, but I find Entombed insanely so. Perhaps someone could write a manual or strat guide that actually explains something in detail? One of the reasons I haven't purchased the game is I think Jason needs to provide some documentation for the game. I keep trying to look something up only to get the message that this or that is not available yet. Well, if he wants to sell the game Jason is going to have to write some detailed documentation or get someone who is a skilled player to write it. I'm growing sick and tired of not having a manual for the game. I'm of half a mind to write him personally and ask him to hurry up and write the manual so I have something to refer too.I should not have to ask the list how to target a body part, because the so-called documentation doesn't bother to mention it. Needless to say I'm a bit ticked off that I'm obviously missing a good portion of information because the documentation absolutely sucks. Frown On 2/28/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Well maybe the dungeon gods just like me! ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. I've had that happen to me quite a few times. I've gotten there without finding a single scroll period once or twice, much less any of the ones that work. So in a way my argument does stand. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. As I've said on the entombed list here Bryan, I'm afraid I don't agree on this point. Now that the drake is more vulnerable to magic from scrolls, any of a number, including confusion, slow, curse paralize or web will do, not to mention haste, empowerment, focus or enlightenment for your party (which all increase damage and accuracy). I don't think I've ever got to the drake without having one or other of these, often bought from the general store. Then, there is always shrink and knock down. In fact, the way I defeated the drake in 2.41, in possibly one of his nastiest encarnations was having an ogre brawler who alternated betwene bash, which meant the drake was spending half his turns standing up, and grapple (which admittedly is only possible either with an ogre, or with a shrunken drake). This worked, allthough I lost all the rest of my party apart from my pet at the time, and the current drake is a great deal easier than at that point. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Oh no, you can find them in the demo, but it's extremely hit and miss. That sort of thing is why I remain firmly convinced that defeating the Drake at least, even if not the other bosses, is based far more on luck than on skill. There's absolutely no guarantee that you'll find any of the more useful scrolls before you get to the Drake, and if you don't have a Mage to shrink him, which in any case doesn't always work, you could be screwed since there's really no way to protect against the Drake's attacks. It's perfectly possible for him to one-shot you with his physical attacks if he happens to hit your torso or head, which I've noticed he does more often than not. And if you get really unlucky and he's blocking the stairs you're basically out of luck. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Hi Dark, Well, one of the problems is I'm not finding any scrolls like that here. I once found a curse scroll, and a shrink scroll but that is it. The general store in Twilight Town absolutely sucks. All I've ever seen there is poor and dubious quality weapons, and now and then a sspell scroll. Other than that it is basically a useless feature of the game. I wonder if my problem is that I'm playing the demo and Jason has intentionally removed certain weapons, scrolls, etc required to play the game effectively, or Jason is intentionally forcing you to find this stuff at random. If so I'm not having a lot of luck finding good equipment and scrolls to use against the Drake, or even against the Goblin King for that matter. In my last battle he almost single handedly whiped my party out. So to be completely honest here while I do like the game it isn't designed for a new player at all. I'm having extreme difficulty playing it, and I'm growing extremely frustrated with it. I would like to see the game be better balanced and some of these enemies made slightly easier. That's coming from someone who normally doesn't complain about a game being difficult, but I find Entombed insanely so. Perhaps someone could write a manual or strat guide that actually explains something in detail? One of the reasons I haven't purchased the game is I think Jason needs to provide some documentation for the game. I keep trying to look something up only to get the message that this or that is not available yet. Well, if he wants to sell the game Jason is going to have to write some detailed documentation or get someone who is a skilled player to write it. I'm growing sick and tired of not having a manual for the game. I'm of half a mind to write him personally and ask him to hurry up and write the manual so I have something to refer too.I should not have
[Audyssey] another monopoly suggestion
here's another suggestion. maybe you could make the password box into a box the screen reader could for instance when someone tries to log into monopoly and they type there password, the characters are echoed and i have a feeling that someone can see the text where as logging into a site like a bank or somewhere else, the text is hidden and the screen reader either says star or something else. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
That is odd. I've never had that happen. You should just be able to grab the stuff. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
It's a slight bug, did you portal back to town and then walk off without portaling back to where you started? That usually causes that bug. No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't. Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
Usually what I do is just quit the game and reload the save file, taht'd fix it. No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't. Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Hi Dark, How dare you say that the dungeon gods favor you? Remember--The gods do not find favor with anyone trespassing on their territory. Grin Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:28 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Well maybe the dungeon gods just like me! ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. I've had that happen to me quite a few times. I've gotten there without finding a single scroll period once or twice, much less any of the ones that work. So in a way my argument does stand. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. As I've said on the entombed list here Bryan, I'm afraid I don't agree on this point. Now that the drake is more vulnerable to magic from scrolls, any of a number, including confusion, slow, curse paralize or web will do, not to mention haste, empowerment, focus or enlightenment for your party (which all increase damage and accuracy). I don't think I've ever got to the drake without having one or other of these, often bought from the general store. Then, there is always shrink and knock down. In fact, the way I defeated the drake in 2.41, in possibly one of his nastiest encarnations was having an ogre brawler who alternated betwene bash, which meant the drake was spending half his turns standing up, and grapple (which admittedly is only possible either with an ogre, or with a shrunken drake). This worked, allthough I lost all the rest of my party apart from my pet at the time, and the current drake is a great deal easier than at that point. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Oh no, you can find them in the demo, but it's extremely hit and miss. That sort of thing is why I remain firmly convinced that defeating the Drake at least, even if not the other bosses, is based far more on luck than on skill. There's absolutely no guarantee that you'll find any of the more useful scrolls before you get to the Drake, and if you don't have a Mage to shrink him, which in any case doesn't always work, you could be screwed since there's really no way to protect against the Drake's attacks. It's perfectly possible for him to one-shot you with his physical attacks if he happens to hit your torso or head, which I've noticed he does more often than not. And if you get really unlucky and he's blocking the stairs you're basically out of luck. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Hi Dark, Well, one of the problems is I'm not finding any scrolls like that here. I once found a curse scroll, and a shrink scroll but that is it. The general store in Twilight Town absolutely sucks. All I've ever seen there is poor and dubious quality weapons, and now and then a sspell scroll. Other than that it is basically a useless feature of the game. I wonder if my problem is that I'm playing the demo and Jason has intentionally removed certain weapons, scrolls, etc required to play the game effectively, or Jason is intentionally forcing you to find this stuff at random. If so I'm not having a lot of luck finding good equipment and scrolls to use against the Drake, or even against the Goblin King for that matter. In my last battle he almost single handedly whiped my party out. So to be completely honest here while I do like the game it isn't designed for a new player at all. I'm having extreme difficulty playing it, and I'm growing extremely frustrated with it. I would like to see the game be better balanced and some of these enemies made slightly easier. That's coming from someone who normally doesn't complain about a game being difficult, but I find Entombed insanely so. Perhaps someone could write a manual or strat guide that actually explains something in detail? One of the reasons I haven't purchased the game is I think Jason needs to provide some
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Definitely the major complication with the Goblin King Battle is the sheer number of power opponents you have to fight. Ok, so four isn't exactly a shere number, but if you factor in their abilities and some of their equipment you have a killer force to wreckon with. It took me at least 3 times before I got lucky enough to finish them off. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. The Gobblin King is one reason I like to have a Mage in my party for the Shrink spell, which you should be able to max out quite easily by the time you get there. Since the Gobblin King generally inflicts the most damage it's a good idea to shrink him or even Charm him if you happen to have that ability. I wouldn't take him out first if only because of the Necromancer. One common strategy when dealing with a party that includes a Necromancer is to take out the Necro first since then he can't resurrect anybody. The skeletons often do at least as much damage as they did in life and they can take much more of a beating. I'd take out the Necro first and then try to focus on the king since he generally causes the most damage. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Hi Dark, Well, I do appreciate the game, and the scope of complexity. However, I am very frustrated with the fact that I can't get my questions answered or clarified by reading the documentation. I'm of an old school opinion that if you sell something you must provide the end user with quality documentation, and give them an overview of all of the game's features. For this reason I feel as though Jason rushed Entombed to final production without completing the documentation and there are still bugs that could be fixed. I've had the game crash three or four times while playing that certainly wasn't cool. However, I am glad Jason is aware of the problem, and has plans to work on the documentation. It is something I feel is needed, especially for a new user like me, and hope he is willing to go into some detail. I'd like to see the advantages and disadvantages of certain races and jobs. I'd like to see a weapons list of what kind of weapons are in the game, quality, and what certain scrolls do. I didn't use certain scrolls simply because I didn't know what they were suppose to do, or when to use them. It is kind of confusing having say a level 4 focus scroll in your inventory and having no clue what it does, when to use it, and so on. Not knowing how to use it is pretty much the same as not having it in my book. Anyway, I'm admitedly in something of a crabby mood. I actually do love the game, but I'd like to know how to play it. I'm tired of making it to say the Goblin King and having my entire party completely whiped out in a couple of combat turns against the Goblin King. I like the challenge, but it would be nice to have an idea how to play so that doesn't happen. Yeah, maybe loose one or two people, but to have my entire party chopped up like roast beaf is not too cool at all.I just feel at times like that I am not a good player, or that I'm lacking some vital information that more experienced players such as yourself have. When I here players saying they kicked the Drake's butt, he is pretty easy, I'm feeling inaduquit to play the game. Like I can't play the game right, and I'm probably making lots of stupid new player mistakes. Cheers! On 3/1/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Well, jason has stated that now that the last few bugs are dealt with docs are next on the list, pluss, sinse the docs are a wiki, apparently it's possible for anyone to contribute by creating an account and loguing in (I well might do so myself). As for your difficulties, well mages have the ability to shrink, which is a start against the drake. It is true jason has tweaked the system so that decent and good items are found further down, but you should be finding scrolls in the shop unless Jason has indeed removed some of those in the demo version of the game. There was a point where Jason upped the difficulty a trifle too far, (where the drake was near impossible), but I'd say it's about there now, ie, difficult but possible. If however some scrolls are missing in the demo, that might indeed change the balance particularly of the drake battle, which would be inconvenient. While I agree about lack of documentation, heck, I was on the private alpha team and there are stil some things I'd like clarrified
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Hi Thomas, As for the General Store in Twilight town it's the seme for me, and I have bought the game. It's ridiculous in that sometimes I can't even find a healing potion in there, and now that you start withnone and seldom find any, it's extremely arguous when one or the other of your party has this or that limb mangled. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Oh no, you can find them in the demo, but it's extremely hit and miss. That sort of thing is why I remain firmly convinced that defeating the Drake at least, even if not the other bosses, is based far more on luck than on skill. There's absolutely no guarantee that you'll find any of the more useful scrolls before you get to the Drake, and if you don't have a Mage to shrink him, which in any case doesn't always work, you could be screwed since there's really no way to protect against the Drake's attacks. It's perfectly possible for him to one-shot you with his physical attacks if he happens to hit your torso or head, which I've noticed he does more often than not. And if you get really unlucky and he's blocking the stairs you're basically out of luck. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Hi Dark, Well, one of the problems is I'm not finding any scrolls like that here. I once found a curse scroll, and a shrink scroll but that is it. The general store in Twilight Town absolutely sucks. All I've ever seen there is poor and dubious quality weapons, and now and then a sspell scroll. Other than that it is basically a useless feature of the game. I wonder if my problem is that I'm playing the demo and Jason has intentionally removed certain weapons, scrolls, etc required to play the game effectively, or Jason is intentionally forcing you to find this stuff at random. If so I'm not having a lot of luck finding good equipment and scrolls to use against the Drake, or even against the Goblin King for that matter. In my last battle he almost single handedly whiped my party out. So to be completely honest here while I do like the game it isn't designed for a new player at all. I'm having extreme difficulty playing it, and I'm growing extremely frustrated with it. I would like to see the game be better balanced and some of these enemies made slightly easier. That's coming from someone who normally doesn't complain about a game being difficult, but I find Entombed insanely so. Perhaps someone could write a manual or strat guide that actually explains something in detail? One of the reasons I haven't purchased the game is I think Jason needs to provide some documentation for the game. I keep trying to look something up only to get the message that this or that is not available yet. Well, if he wants to sell the game Jason is going to have to write some detailed documentation or get someone who is a skilled player to write it. I'm growing sick and tired of not having a manual for the game. I'm of half a mind to write him personally and ask him to hurry up and write the manual so I have something to refer too.I should not have to ask the list how to target a body part, because the so-called documentation doesn't bother to mention it. Needless to say I'm a bit ticked off that I'm obviously missing a good portion of information because the documentation absolutely sucks. Frown On 2/28/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. The important thing to remember about the drake is that he gets fewer attacks than you do. so, you need to make fewer count. Thus, shrinking him with a mage is always a good plan, as are using slow scrolls on him while using haste scrolls on yourself. Confusion scrolls also help sinse he'll be attacking himself some of the time, as do web and paralize scrolls for obvious reasons. Also, with a melee setup like the one you've got, your probably best off aiming at the drakes' abdomin or neck, sinse the drake can suffer manglement in either place with enough damage. Lastly, remember that for every technique you use there's a price, sinse every technique has a much longer cool down time than normal fight commands. Thus, doing a flurry or multishot should be thought about carefully, particularly if you combine it with something like sneak attack to do extra damage. Lastly, remember the importance of passive skills like duel ield and (for certain classes), crytical hits. I've defeated the drake at level 7 with various party setups, bu have always needed to use scrolls
Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
Hmmm, stuff should certainly be there and I haven't seen this happen either, just hit g after the battle. Someone has reported this happening on the list too so it's possibly a bug of some sort, even if it doesn't crop up too much, as I said, it's one I've never seen before myself. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly.
Hi, I believe you are talking about Jim Kitchen's Monopoly, not RSGame's Monopoly. If you are, I would recommend you did so as this version of the game uses SAPI. HTH, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Mauricio Almeida Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:00 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly. nope, you play it with jaws. mauricio -Mensagem original- De: Diana Nowlin dinow...@sasktel.net Para: Gamers@audyssey.org Data: Sexta, 26 de Fevereiro de 2010 17:34 Assunto: [Audyssey] Monopoly. I'm getting monopoly version 9 put on my laptop. Do you have to turn Jaws off to play it? Thanks, Diana Nowlin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games
Hello, That, I believe, is bizarre. If you aren't a certain class well then you miss out on a lot. The character I want always, I mean always, protected is my main character, and while I am not get nearly 30 hitpoints worth of damage at the beginning of the game this Job isn't exactly the easiest to cope with. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Assassins actually don't have plate armour skill as far as I know, just leather and possibly the option of buying chain. at an increased skill cost. fighters and paladins are I believe the only ones with it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games That has to do with class, not race. A Bard or Monk can't wear plate armor from what I've noticed. I believe the only ones who can, or at least who actually have a plate armor skill, are the FIghter and possibly Assassin and Paladin. Someone feel free to clarify if I've left any out. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Hi Dark, Can this be a severed anything? I have seen the game say that this character or other can put a severed hand on their right hand. One more question. I notice some equipment cannot be worn by my main character. For example, I am a Mail Human Bard Monk, and cannot seem to equip the breastplate you get from beating the Goblin King in level 6. Why is this so? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Indeed Tom. I'd say this is a floor with lots of rpgs, extremely uninteresting and undescriptive combat, especially those which rely heavily on hp mechanics. In the DD 2nd eddition books I've read, it specifically states that the hp should be taken as a guide to roleplay and an indicator for what damage is done and what condition someone is in, not as red that 100 percent = perfect health, 0 is death, and pretty much everything betwene is the same. I do admit the entombed system has taken quite a lot of balancing out, even up to a couple of versions ago, it was too easy for just about enemy on the lower floors to one shot a magic based character with a shot to the head or torso, but sinse Jason added more overall hp for those jobs it's been working very well and provides great stratogy and realism. Btw, miner spoiler but some fun! try picking up a severed head then looking in your equipment list for a rather amusing litle touch which has been in right from the very early private alphas. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:57 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Hi Dark, Yeah, so I've noticed. I am actually glad to see the more complex combat system in Entombed compared to a game like Sryth. With Sryth the combat system is rather lame and not too descriptive of the damage done to an enemy character. In Entombed you can chop an enemies legs out from under him, chop off a hand holding a weapon, or lop off his head. That makes it much more realistic and more fun. On 2/28/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: On the level of entombed, I will say that the purpose of the limb system was actually to make a far more interesting and realistic form of hp and damage taking than in most rpgs which just rely on a number of hp. that's why you can knock people over by hitting their feet, or disarm them by aiming for hands. that's why descriptions of hand mangling and indeed limb or head chopping are fairly minimal, because those aren't really a major point of the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Yeah, but the king is the one who generally causes the most damage outright. The Necromancer is dangerous because he has Ice Blast and then the Summon Bones spell. I tend to take out the Necro first, then either the Trickster or Shaman or sometimes even the King himself. But I always take out the Necro first to make sure nobody else can get resurrected since skeletons, apart from often being able to inflict at least as much damage as they did in life, can take even more of a beating. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Definitely the major complication with the Goblin King Battle is the sheer number of power opponents you have to fight. Ok, so four isn't exactly a shere number, but if you factor in their abilities and some of their equipment you have a killer force to wreckon with. It took me at least 3 times before I got lucky enough to finish them off. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. The Gobblin King is one reason I like to have a Mage in my party for the Shrink spell, which you should be able to max out quite easily by the time you get there. Since the Gobblin King generally inflicts the most damage it's a good idea to shrink him or even Charm him if you happen to have that ability. I wouldn't take him out first if only because of the Necromancer. One common strategy when dealing with a party that includes a Necromancer is to take out the Necro first since then he can't resurrect anybody. The skeletons often do at least as much damage as they did in life and they can take much more of a beating. I'd take out the Necro first and then try to focus on the king since he generally causes the most damage. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Hi Dark, Well, I do appreciate the game, and the scope of complexity. However, I am very frustrated with the fact that I can't get my questions answered or clarified by reading the documentation. I'm of an old school opinion that if you sell something you must provide the end user with quality documentation, and give them an overview of all of the game's features. For this reason I feel as though Jason rushed Entombed to final production without completing the documentation and there are still bugs that could be fixed. I've had the game crash three or four times while playing that certainly wasn't cool. However, I am glad Jason is aware of the problem, and has plans to work on the documentation. It is something I feel is needed, especially for a new user like me, and hope he is willing to go into some detail. I'd like to see the advantages and disadvantages of certain races and jobs. I'd like to see a weapons list of what kind of weapons are in the game, quality, and what certain scrolls do. I didn't use certain scrolls simply because I didn't know what they were suppose to do, or when to use them. It is kind of confusing having say a level 4 focus scroll in your inventory and having no clue what it does, when to use it, and so on. Not knowing how to use it is pretty much the same as not having it in my book. Anyway, I'm admitedly in something of a crabby mood. I actually do love the game, but I'd like to know how to play it. I'm tired of making it to say the Goblin King and having my entire party completely whiped out in a couple of combat turns against the Goblin King. I like the challenge, but it would be nice to have an idea how to play so that doesn't happen. Yeah, maybe loose one or two people, but to have my entire party chopped up like roast beaf is not too cool at all.I just feel at times like that I am not a good player, or that I'm lacking some vital information that more experienced players such as yourself have. When I here players saying they kicked the Drake's butt, he is pretty easy, I'm feeling inaduquit to play the game. Like I can't play the game right, and I'm probably making lots of stupid new player mistakes. Cheers! On 3/1/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Well, jason has stated that now that the last few bugs are dealt with docs are next on the list, pluss, sinse the docs are a wiki, apparently it's possible for anyone to contribute by creating an account and loguing in (I well might do so myself). As for your
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for February 2010
Hi, What I am slightly surprised at is the ever shrinking list of message. We went down by 200 Messages this month alone...that's something. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kitchen Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:00 AM To: Audyssey Subject: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for February 2010 98 people posted 754 messages. 94 From, Hayden Presley. 69 From, Thomas Ward. 68 From, dark. 66 From, Muhammed Deniz. 41 From, shaun everiss. 31 From, Bryan Peterson. 20 From, Jim Kitchen. 19 From, Jacob Kruger. 19 From, Steve. 17 From, Charles Rivard. 16 From, Josh. 15 From, Darren Harris. 11 From, Raul A. Gallegos. 11 From, Ron Schamerhorn. 10 From, Milos Przic. 10 From, Philip Bennefall. 9 From, tsiegel. 8 From, Gamers Chat Robot. 8 From, James Dietz. 8 From, key stone. 8 From, Mauricio Almeida. 7 From, Bogdan Muresan. 7 From, James Homuth. 7 From, Phil Vlasak. 7 From, william lomas. 6 From, clement chou. 6 From, Kevin Weispfennig. 6 From, Oriol Gómez. 6 From, Ryan Smith. 5 From, joe quinn. 5 From, Johnny Tai. 5 From, The Kolesar Brothers. 4 From, Angela Lerma. 4 From, Jorge Gonçalves. 4 From, Liam Erven. 4 From, Lisa Hayes. 4 From, Orin. 4 From, playful-puppy. 4 From, Shirley Starblanket. 4 From, Yohandy. 3 From, Brandon Misch. 3 From, Christopher Bartlett. 3 From, Claudio Zeni. 3 From, glenna burgess. 3 From, Harmony Neil. 3 From, ian mcnamara. 3 From, Munawar Bijani. 3 From, peter Mahach. 3 From, rory0608. 3 From, Tristan B. 3 From, Zachary Kline. 2 From, anouk. 2 From, computerwizry. 2 From, Damien Sadler. 2 From, Grace. 2 From, Hayri Tulumcu. 2 From, James Howard. 2 From, John Snowling. 2 From, Kai. 2 From, Keao Wright. 2 From, Kerry. 2 From, Michael Feir. 2 From, Ramy Moustafa. 2 From, Scott Chesworth. 2 From, simon dowling. 2 From, The Dealing Bandit. 2 From, Travis Siegel. 2 From, Valiant8086. 1 From, Chris Reagan. 1 From, Claudio. 1 From, darren_g_harris. 1 From, David Chittenden. 1 From, Diana Nowlin. 1 From, Dickson Tan. 1 From, Eleanor. 1 From, Gamers List Guidelines Robot. 1 From, Giulia Paggiarin. 1 From, Henry D. Reyes. 1 From, Jimmy Odin Kristoffersen. 1 From, Karl Belanger. 1 From, lirin. 1 From, Loravara. 1 From, Marja Karlsson. 1 From, matheus. 1 From, Matt. 1 From, Michael Forzano. 1 From, mike maslo. 1 From, MissWings. 1 From, Richard Sherman. 1 From, Ryan Chou. 1 From, Ryan Strunk. 1 From, Sabrina Markel. 1 From, Steve Britt. 1 From, Steve. 1 From, Tim Kilgore. 1 From, Trouble. 1 From, Willem. 1 From, William L. Houts. Archive file size 2500352 bytes Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
people will probably kill me for saying so, but I've found this a surprisingly easy battle. Everyone bar the goblin king himself goes down in virtually one sneak attack or a decent blast of magic, and the king can be dealt with by targiting his noggin, that's failing fun things such as chalming him of course! Maybe it's because I tend to concentrate on getting fewer skills up higher. thus, for a fighter I'll always concentrate on duel wield and short swords (sinse I can guarantee on getting a good pare of those if nothing else), and with those at 5 the gk goes down like a tonne of bricks. For thieves or assassins I make sneak attack or crytical hit a priority, for mages shrink, and for necros ice blast. Harm or firebalt I'll use if it's the best offense that character combo has, though iceblast and lightning I've found to be more effective, and I'll always go for moves to screw up the opponent such as chalm or some of the bard skills. Thus, when I fight the king I can guarantee that my two characters at level 6 will have either one skill of five and one of three, or two at four. Occasially I'll go for three skills at three, but only when the skill combination is especially complimentary, such as archery multishort and crytical hits, or duel wield, a weapon skill (usually short swords), and crytical hits (as you can guess, the assassin job with the critical hits skill in the full version is a favourite complement of mine to melee classes). For jobs with more unique abilities like mages I tend to just pick a favourite couple and work on those, --- on this basis even my level 4 or 5 character will probably have at least one good skill, possibly two. usually, skills don't become useful until their at least level three, thus in entombed it really does pay to have specialized characters for specific functions, one reason the game effectively gives you six sets of skills to play with. This is of course, just the stratogy I use, and there may be other ways, sinse the game is a complex one, but where as normally I'd try and be even handed with skills in an rpg game, in entombed I've found it really doesn't pay, and specialization is the key to winning. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
I haven't had that problem, I just hit g and then press enter to pick up what ever is there, I have had to move a step first though before I could pick up anything. The problem i have had is with speech stopping, after I finish a battle sometimes when I press the G key I have to save and restart because I have no speech anymore. Steve Walker - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hmmm, stuff should certainly be there and I haven't seen this happen either, just hit g after the battle. Someone has reported this happening on the list too so it's possibly a bug of some sort, even if it doesn't crop up too much, as I said, it's one I've never seen before myself. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Hi Dark, About that--I don't even know why they have a Kobold Trickster, he's probably the easiest I have ever found in that battle. So much for royal. Grin Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. people will probably kill me for saying so, but I've found this a surprisingly easy battle. Everyone bar the goblin king himself goes down in virtually one sneak attack or a decent blast of magic, and the king can be dealt with by targiting his noggin, that's failing fun things such as chalming him of course! Maybe it's because I tend to concentrate on getting fewer skills up higher. thus, for a fighter I'll always concentrate on duel wield and short swords (sinse I can guarantee on getting a good pare of those if nothing else), and with those at 5 the gk goes down like a tonne of bricks. For thieves or assassins I make sneak attack or crytical hit a priority, for mages shrink, and for necros ice blast. Harm or firebalt I'll use if it's the best offense that character combo has, though iceblast and lightning I've found to be more effective, and I'll always go for moves to screw up the opponent such as chalm or some of the bard skills. Thus, when I fight the king I can guarantee that my two characters at level 6 will have either one skill of five and one of three, or two at four. Occasially I'll go for three skills at three, but only when the skill combination is especially complimentary, such as archery multishort and crytical hits, or duel wield, a weapon skill (usually short swords), and crytical hits (as you can guess, the assassin job with the critical hits skill in the full version is a favourite complement of mine to melee classes). For jobs with more unique abilities like mages I tend to just pick a favourite couple and work on those, --- on this basis even my level 4 or 5 character will probably have at least one good skill, possibly two. usually, skills don't become useful until their at least level three, thus in entombed it really does pay to have specialized characters for specific functions, one reason the game effectively gives you six sets of skills to play with. This is of course, just the stratogy I use, and there may be other ways, sinse the game is a complex one, but where as normally I'd try and be even handed with skills in an rpg game, in entombed I've found it really doesn't pay, and specialization is the key to winning. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games
Well none armour wearing jobs have recieved boosts in hp to improve their durability, which imho have balanced things nicely, though I do rather wish some way of getting your big beefy fighters to stand in front and take damage rather than your mages was introduced to the game, as I suggested on the entombed list, but that might have to wait for an upgrade. For now, i'd not say the armour thing is a problem, and afterall, an assassin isn't really going to do much sneaking wearing dirty great clattering plate armour are they? Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Hello, That, I believe, is bizarre. If you aren't a certain class well then you miss out on a lot. The character I want always, I mean always, protected is my main character, and while I am not get nearly 30 hitpoints worth of damage at the beginning of the game this Job isn't exactly the easiest to cope with. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Assassins actually don't have plate armour skill as far as I know, just leather and possibly the option of buying chain. at an increased skill cost. fighters and paladins are I believe the only ones with it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games That has to do with class, not race. A Bard or Monk can't wear plate armor from what I've noticed. I believe the only ones who can, or at least who actually have a plate armor skill, are the FIghter and possibly Assassin and Paladin. Someone feel free to clarify if I've left any out. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Hi Dark, Can this be a severed anything? I have seen the game say that this character or other can put a severed hand on their right hand. One more question. I notice some equipment cannot be worn by my main character. For example, I am a Mail Human Bard Monk, and cannot seem to equip the breastplate you get from beating the Goblin King in level 6. Why is this so? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Indeed Tom. I'd say this is a floor with lots of rpgs, extremely uninteresting and undescriptive combat, especially those which rely heavily on hp mechanics. In the DD 2nd eddition books I've read, it specifically states that the hp should be taken as a guide to roleplay and an indicator for what damage is done and what condition someone is in, not as red that 100 percent = perfect health, 0 is death, and pretty much everything betwene is the same. I do admit the entombed system has taken quite a lot of balancing out, even up to a couple of versions ago, it was too easy for just about enemy on the lower floors to one shot a magic based character with a shot to the head or torso, but sinse Jason added more overall hp for those jobs it's been working very well and provides great stratogy and realism. Btw, miner spoiler but some fun! try picking up a severed head then looking in your equipment list for a rather amusing litle touch which has been in right from the very early private alphas. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:57 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed was Adult games Hi Dark, Yeah, so I've noticed. I am actually glad to see the more complex combat system in Entombed compared to a game like Sryth. With Sryth the combat system is rather lame and not too descriptive of the damage done to an enemy character. In Entombed you can chop an enemies legs out from under him, chop off a hand holding a weapon, or lop off his head. That makes it much more realistic and more fun. On 2/28/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: On the level of entombed, I will say that the purpose of the limb system was actually to make a far more interesting and realistic form of hp and damage taking than in most rpgs which just rely on a number of hp. that's why you can knock
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
I combine FIghter and Assassin with my main whenever possible and then I can up Sneak Attack, Dual Wield, Short Swords and Critical Hit. FOr Necros obviously Ice Blast, for Mages Grow and Shrink and for Healers the Heal and harm spells. All those are usually maxed out or close to it by the time I get down to level 25. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. people will probably kill me for saying so, but I've found this a surprisingly easy battle. Everyone bar the goblin king himself goes down in virtually one sneak attack or a decent blast of magic, and the king can be dealt with by targiting his noggin, that's failing fun things such as chalming him of course! Maybe it's because I tend to concentrate on getting fewer skills up higher. thus, for a fighter I'll always concentrate on duel wield and short swords (sinse I can guarantee on getting a good pare of those if nothing else), and with those at 5 the gk goes down like a tonne of bricks. For thieves or assassins I make sneak attack or crytical hit a priority, for mages shrink, and for necros ice blast. Harm or firebalt I'll use if it's the best offense that character combo has, though iceblast and lightning I've found to be more effective, and I'll always go for moves to screw up the opponent such as chalm or some of the bard skills. Thus, when I fight the king I can guarantee that my two characters at level 6 will have either one skill of five and one of three, or two at four. Occasially I'll go for three skills at three, but only when the skill combination is especially complimentary, such as archery multishort and crytical hits, or duel wield, a weapon skill (usually short swords), and crytical hits (as you can guess, the assassin job with the critical hits skill in the full version is a favourite complement of mine to melee classes). For jobs with more unique abilities like mages I tend to just pick a favourite couple and work on those, --- on this basis even my level 4 or 5 character will probably have at least one good skill, possibly two. usually, skills don't become useful until their at least level three, thus in entombed it really does pay to have specialized characters for specific functions, one reason the game effectively gives you six sets of skills to play with. This is of course, just the stratogy I use, and there may be other ways, sinse the game is a complex one, but where as normally I'd try and be even handed with skills in an rpg game, in entombed I've found it really doesn't pay, and specialization is the key to winning. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
Apparently if you walk manually back down from Twilight Town after portalling up there this can cause that bug. That's why I never do that. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Steve blindma...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed I haven't had that problem, I just hit g and then press enter to pick up what ever is there, I have had to move a step first though before I could pick up anything. The problem i have had is with speech stopping, after I finish a battle sometimes when I press the G key I have to save and restart because I have no speech anymore. Steve Walker - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hmmm, stuff should certainly be there and I haven't seen this happen either, just hit g after the battle. Someone has reported this happening on the list too so it's possibly a bug of some sort, even if it doesn't crop up too much, as I said, it's one I've never seen before myself. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
How can you portal back down? Steve - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Apparently if you walk manually back down from Twilight Town after portalling up there this can cause that bug. That's why I never do that. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Steve blindma...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed I haven't had that problem, I just hit g and then press enter to pick up what ever is there, I have had to move a step first though before I could pick up anything. The problem i have had is with speech stopping, after I finish a battle sometimes when I press the G key I have to save and restart because I have no speech anymore. Steve Walker - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hmmm, stuff should certainly be there and I haven't seen this happen either, just hit g after the battle. Someone has reported this happening on the list too so it's possibly a bug of some sort, even if it doesn't crop up too much, as I said, it's one I've never seen before myself. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
Hit F1 again in town. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Steve blindma...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed How can you portal back down? Steve - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Apparently if you walk manually back down from Twilight Town after portalling up there this can cause that bug. That's why I never do that. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Steve blindma...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed I haven't had that problem, I just hit g and then press enter to pick up what ever is there, I have had to move a step first though before I could pick up anything. The problem i have had is with speech stopping, after I finish a battle sometimes when I press the G key I have to save and restart because I have no speech anymore. Steve Walker - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hmmm, stuff should certainly be there and I haven't seen this happen either, just hit g after the battle. Someone has reported this happening on the list too so it's possibly a bug of some sort, even if it doesn't crop up too much, as I said, it's one I've never seen before myself. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
hit f1 again No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't. Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: Steve blindma...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed How can you portal back down? Steve - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Apparently if you walk manually back down from Twilight Town after portalling up there this can cause that bug. That's why I never do that. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Steve blindma...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed I haven't had that problem, I just hit g and then press enter to pick up what ever is there, I have had to move a step first though before I could pick up anything. The problem i have had is with speech stopping, after I finish a battle sometimes when I press the G key I have to save and restart because I have no speech anymore. Steve Walker - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hmmm, stuff should certainly be there and I haven't seen this happen either, just hit g after the battle. Someone has reported this happening on the list too so it's possibly a bug of some sort, even if it doesn't crop up too much, as I said, it's one I've never seen before myself. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
Thanks. - Original Message - From: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed hit f1 again No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't. Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: Steve blindma...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed How can you portal back down? Steve - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Apparently if you walk manually back down from Twilight Town after portalling up there this can cause that bug. That's why I never do that. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Steve blindma...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed I haven't had that problem, I just hit g and then press enter to pick up what ever is there, I have had to move a step first though before I could pick up anything. The problem i have had is with speech stopping, after I finish a battle sometimes when I press the G key I have to save and restart because I have no speech anymore. Steve Walker - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hmmm, stuff should certainly be there and I haven't seen this happen either, just hit g after the battle. Someone has reported this happening on the list too so it's possibly a bug of some sort, even if it doesn't crop up too much, as I said, it's one I've never seen before myself. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing
Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
its a bug. I have not played 1.0 yet but this was happening in the last beta rc with quest monsters and afterwards. At 01:03 p.m. 2/03/2010, you wrote: Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly.
Where did you get the game? In most cases, you should remove your screen reader from the memory before starting the game if the game does not need your screen reader. In the case of JAWS, for example, insert f4, then answer yes. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: Diana Nowlin dinow...@sasktel.net To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Monopoly. I'm getting monopoly version 9 put on my laptop. Do you have to turn Jaws off to play it? Thanks, Diana Nowlin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed
Hi Thomas! I once thought I was having a problem picking up items only to find out I had hit an arrow key and moved over from the location where I slayed my enemies. I moved back to that position and the items were there. Not sure if this is your problem but just thought I would mention it just in case. Well off to the Dungeon! Sly! - Original Message - From: Steve blindma...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed I haven't had that problem, I just hit g and then press enter to pick up what ever is there, I have had to move a step first though before I could pick up anything. The problem i have had is with speech stopping, after I finish a battle sometimes when I press the G key I have to save and restart because I have no speech anymore. Steve Walker - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hmmm, stuff should certainly be there and I haven't seen this happen either, just hit g after the battle. Someone has reported this happening on the list too so it's possibly a bug of some sort, even if it doesn't crop up too much, as I said, it's one I've never seen before myself. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Another Problem With Entombed Hi all, I have been having a slight problem with Entombed and I was wondering if this either is a bug or I'm not doing something write. Tonight while playing after a combat I press g to grab items from the floor and it continues to tell me there is nothing there. However, in certain cases such as the battle with the Goblin King I certainly know his weapons and armour should be there in the room, let alone the bodies, and it says there is nothing there. I'm pretty frustrated and don't know what else to do. Is this a bug or do I need something special to get my characters to pick up and find this stuff? I really do not understand why the grab command isn't working. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
And I have another problem, and believe me when I say it makes the Drake liok like a Joke. How in the world do you get passed those blasted elementals on Level 13? It helps when they form catastrophy, but they never hold that form long enough. Then I eefeat them with all but one of my characters like so much chopped liver and any left are...well, not in such good shape. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:15 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. I combine FIghter and Assassin with my main whenever possible and then I can up Sneak Attack, Dual Wield, Short Swords and Critical Hit. FOr Necros obviously Ice Blast, for Mages Grow and Shrink and for Healers the Heal and harm spells. All those are usually maxed out or close to it by the time I get down to level 25. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. people will probably kill me for saying so, but I've found this a surprisingly easy battle. Everyone bar the goblin king himself goes down in virtually one sneak attack or a decent blast of magic, and the king can be dealt with by targiting his noggin, that's failing fun things such as chalming him of course! Maybe it's because I tend to concentrate on getting fewer skills up higher. thus, for a fighter I'll always concentrate on duel wield and short swords (sinse I can guarantee on getting a good pare of those if nothing else), and with those at 5 the gk goes down like a tonne of bricks. For thieves or assassins I make sneak attack or crytical hit a priority, for mages shrink, and for necros ice blast. Harm or firebalt I'll use if it's the best offense that character combo has, though iceblast and lightning I've found to be more effective, and I'll always go for moves to screw up the opponent such as chalm or some of the bard skills. Thus, when I fight the king I can guarantee that my two characters at level 6 will have either one skill of five and one of three, or two at four. Occasially I'll go for three skills at three, but only when the skill combination is especially complimentary, such as archery multishort and crytical hits, or duel wield, a weapon skill (usually short swords), and crytical hits (as you can guess, the assassin job with the critical hits skill in the full version is a favourite complement of mine to melee classes). For jobs with more unique abilities like mages I tend to just pick a favourite couple and work on those, --- on this basis even my level 4 or 5 character will probably have at least one good skill, possibly two. usually, skills don't become useful until their at least level three, thus in entombed it really does pay to have specialized characters for specific functions, one reason the game effectively gives you six sets of skills to play with. This is of course, just the stratogy I use, and there may be other ways, sinse the game is a complex one, but where as normally I'd try and be even handed with skills in an rpg game, in entombed I've found it really doesn't pay, and specialization is the key to winning. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
I never find grow that helpful to be honest, other than occasionally being able to knock people over, and there are generally more efficient ways of doing that. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 1:15 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. I combine FIghter and Assassin with my main whenever possible and then I can up Sneak Attack, Dual Wield, Short Swords and Critical Hit. FOr Necros obviously Ice Blast, for Mages Grow and Shrink and for Healers the Heal and harm spells. All those are usually maxed out or close to it by the time I get down to level 25. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. people will probably kill me for saying so, but I've found this a surprisingly easy battle. Everyone bar the goblin king himself goes down in virtually one sneak attack or a decent blast of magic, and the king can be dealt with by targiting his noggin, that's failing fun things such as chalming him of course! Maybe it's because I tend to concentrate on getting fewer skills up higher. thus, for a fighter I'll always concentrate on duel wield and short swords (sinse I can guarantee on getting a good pare of those if nothing else), and with those at 5 the gk goes down like a tonne of bricks. For thieves or assassins I make sneak attack or crytical hit a priority, for mages shrink, and for necros ice blast. Harm or firebalt I'll use if it's the best offense that character combo has, though iceblast and lightning I've found to be more effective, and I'll always go for moves to screw up the opponent such as chalm or some of the bard skills. Thus, when I fight the king I can guarantee that my two characters at level 6 will have either one skill of five and one of three, or two at four. Occasially I'll go for three skills at three, but only when the skill combination is especially complimentary, such as archery multishort and crytical hits, or duel wield, a weapon skill (usually short swords), and crytical hits (as you can guess, the assassin job with the critical hits skill in the full version is a favourite complement of mine to melee classes). For jobs with more unique abilities like mages I tend to just pick a favourite couple and work on those, --- on this basis even my level 4 or 5 character will probably have at least one good skill, possibly two. usually, skills don't become useful until their at least level three, thus in entombed it really does pay to have specialized characters for specific functions, one reason the game effectively gives you six sets of skills to play with. This is of course, just the stratogy I use, and there may be other ways, sinse the game is a complex one, but where as normally I'd try and be even handed with skills in an rpg game, in entombed I've found it really doesn't pay, and specialization is the key to winning. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
It seems to depend on which one starts the combination process. if Earthquake initiates it you can do some major damage with Ice Blast. But even if you defeat Catastrophy in combined form you still have to defeat each elemental. Luckily the damage inflicted to the Catastrophy form does carry over to the individuals. So if you can defeat Catastrophy chances are when he breaks up it won't take much to bring down the individuals. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. And I have another problem, and believe me when I say it makes the Drake liok like a Joke. How in the world do you get passed those blasted elementals on Level 13? It helps when they form catastrophy, but they never hold that form long enough. Then I eefeat them with all but one of my characters like so much chopped liver and any left are...well, not in such good shape. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:15 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. I combine FIghter and Assassin with my main whenever possible and then I can up Sneak Attack, Dual Wield, Short Swords and Critical Hit. FOr Necros obviously Ice Blast, for Mages Grow and Shrink and for Healers the Heal and harm spells. All those are usually maxed out or close to it by the time I get down to level 25. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. people will probably kill me for saying so, but I've found this a surprisingly easy battle. Everyone bar the goblin king himself goes down in virtually one sneak attack or a decent blast of magic, and the king can be dealt with by targiting his noggin, that's failing fun things such as chalming him of course! Maybe it's because I tend to concentrate on getting fewer skills up higher. thus, for a fighter I'll always concentrate on duel wield and short swords (sinse I can guarantee on getting a good pare of those if nothing else), and with those at 5 the gk goes down like a tonne of bricks. For thieves or assassins I make sneak attack or crytical hit a priority, for mages shrink, and for necros ice blast. Harm or firebalt I'll use if it's the best offense that character combo has, though iceblast and lightning I've found to be more effective, and I'll always go for moves to screw up the opponent such as chalm or some of the bard skills. Thus, when I fight the king I can guarantee that my two characters at level 6 will have either one skill of five and one of three, or two at four. Occasially I'll go for three skills at three, but only when the skill combination is especially complimentary, such as archery multishort and crytical hits, or duel wield, a weapon skill (usually short swords), and crytical hits (as you can guess, the assassin job with the critical hits skill in the full version is a favourite complement of mine to melee classes). For jobs with more unique abilities like mages I tend to just pick a favourite couple and work on those, --- on this basis even my level 4 or 5 character will probably have at least one good skill, possibly two. usually, skills don't become useful until their at least level three, thus in entombed it really does pay to have specialized characters for specific functions, one reason the game effectively gives you six sets of skills to play with. This is of course, just the stratogy I use, and there may be other ways, sinse the game is a complex one, but where as normally I'd try and be even handed with skills in an rpg game, in entombed I've found it really doesn't pay, and specialization is the key to winning. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
I don't use it much either to be honest, which is why I usually don't even bother to assign points to it. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. I never find grow that helpful to be honest, other than occasionally being able to knock people over, and there are generally more efficient ways of doing that. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 1:15 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. I combine FIghter and Assassin with my main whenever possible and then I can up Sneak Attack, Dual Wield, Short Swords and Critical Hit. FOr Necros obviously Ice Blast, for Mages Grow and Shrink and for Healers the Heal and harm spells. All those are usually maxed out or close to it by the time I get down to level 25. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. people will probably kill me for saying so, but I've found this a surprisingly easy battle. Everyone bar the goblin king himself goes down in virtually one sneak attack or a decent blast of magic, and the king can be dealt with by targiting his noggin, that's failing fun things such as chalming him of course! Maybe it's because I tend to concentrate on getting fewer skills up higher. thus, for a fighter I'll always concentrate on duel wield and short swords (sinse I can guarantee on getting a good pare of those if nothing else), and with those at 5 the gk goes down like a tonne of bricks. For thieves or assassins I make sneak attack or crytical hit a priority, for mages shrink, and for necros ice blast. Harm or firebalt I'll use if it's the best offense that character combo has, though iceblast and lightning I've found to be more effective, and I'll always go for moves to screw up the opponent such as chalm or some of the bard skills. Thus, when I fight the king I can guarantee that my two characters at level 6 will have either one skill of five and one of three, or two at four. Occasially I'll go for three skills at three, but only when the skill combination is especially complimentary, such as archery multishort and crytical hits, or duel wield, a weapon skill (usually short swords), and crytical hits (as you can guess, the assassin job with the critical hits skill in the full version is a favourite complement of mine to melee classes). For jobs with more unique abilities like mages I tend to just pick a favourite couple and work on those, --- on this basis even my level 4 or 5 character will probably have at least one good skill, possibly two. usually, skills don't become useful until their at least level three, thus in entombed it really does pay to have specialized characters for specific functions, one reason the game effectively gives you six sets of skills to play with. This is of course, just the stratogy I use, and there may be other ways, sinse the game is a complex one, but where as normally I'd try and be even handed with skills in an rpg game, in entombed I've found it really doesn't pay, and specialization is the key to winning. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can
