Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro
Hi Dark, Your second assumption is that which I am proposing. It would in my books be unfair to make people pay even more for the same thing, just because they're starting out. So if you purchase two single product licenses for 300, you can then upgrade to the unlimited version of pro for another 550 (making 850 all in total). Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro I can see the logic in this decision, however the one thing I'm not sure of is the way it would work in terms of the creative process. Look at all the times games have chan ged their nature in developement, or some elements from one game have been reused in another. Take Sarah for instance, which according to Phil basically started as a glorified packman mod with harry potter ghosts. Pluss there is then the investment issue, if you buy pro later, that 150 usd you've already paid for a single game license is pretty much wasted, and in fact you've paid 950 dollars for 800 dollars worth of licensing. This effectively means first time developers of games are simply adding to the price. As I aid on audiogames.net, I stil am in favour of an installments type of process, where by people paid a certain amount of license fee for a certain amount of time up to the full amount. Of course, if this 150 usd per game is ten taken off the full price, so you pay 150 usd to develope your first bgt game and then have only another 650 usd to pay later, that is another story and wouldd I think be a far more reasonable option. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 6:14 AM Subject: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro Hi folks, I have been doing some thinking regarding the pro version of BGT. While an unlimited distribution license obviously offers the greatest flexibility and freedom, as has been discussed previously the price tag is way too high for many when paying up front. So I've thought of another method. What are your opinions of a single product license, which would allow you to make and sell as many copies as you could manage, of one single game? This license would be somewhere around the $150 mark, and would let you sort of test the waters commercially. If that first game sold well, you could then get pro at a later date or get another single product license for the next title as well if prefered, etc. I'd be greatful for any feedback on this. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro
what about some sort of pay per month a sertain ammount. thats how I'd do that, something like 20nz a month or even 10 a month. Ofcause that would mean I would have to either have this automatically set or have it give me a key per month like windoweyes till I payed my last payment. and then at that point I'd get my full licence or something. At 05:14 p.m. 1/07/2010, you wrote: Hi folks, I have been doing some thinking regarding the pro version of BGT. While an unlimited distribution license obviously offers the greatest flexibility and freedom, as has been discussed previously the price tag is way too high for many when paying up front. So I've thought of another method. What are your opinions of a single product license, which would allow you to make and sell as many copies as you could manage, of one single game? This license would be somewhere around the $150 mark, and would let you sort of test the waters commercially. If that first game sold well, you could then get pro at a later date or get another single product license for the next title as well if prefered, etc. I'd be greatful for any feedback on this. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro
Hi Shaun, The problem with such a scheme is that there would be a much greater amount of bookkeeping involved. I would most likely have to write some sort of complicated licensing system that, as you say, would send out monthly keys etc. Also, since even the demo version of the engine is pretty much unrestricted as to allow the creation of high quality open source games, there's not much that would change if the license was revoked. It would mean using some sort of online registration which I'm not terribly keen on, as I much prefer the simple name/key system that I'm currently employing. It's not very secure, but I prefer to trust the honest customers as much as possible by providing such a simple system as it allows them to back up their keys and re-use them in case of a reformat etc. With the internet based senario, the whole thing would break down if my server happened to have some issues at the time of registration. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro what about some sort of pay per month a sertain ammount. thats how I'd do that, something like 20nz a month or even 10 a month. Ofcause that would mean I would have to either have this automatically set or have it give me a key per month like windoweyes till I payed my last payment. and then at that point I'd get my full licence or something. At 05:14 p.m. 1/07/2010, you wrote: Hi folks, I have been doing some thinking regarding the pro version of BGT. While an unlimited distribution license obviously offers the greatest flexibility and freedom, as has been discussed previously the price tag is way too high for many when paying up front. So I've thought of another method. What are your opinions of a single product license, which would allow you to make and sell as many copies as you could manage, of one single game? This license would be somewhere around the $150 mark, and would let you sort of test the waters commercially. If that first game sold well, you could then get pro at a later date or get another single product license for the next title as well if prefered, etc. I'd be greatful for any feedback on this. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] entombed question
You can even get the full version if you like. Its really cool as well as the ending, but I can't spoil that for you. My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] entombed question Hi Enes, No problem. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of ENES SARIBAS Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:10 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] entombed question thanks hayden, i'm now subscribed to the list --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro
Hi philip. Sounds like a bargain to me, unless the game you try to sell is not a success. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:14 AM Subject: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro Hi folks, I have been doing some thinking regarding the pro version of BGT. While an unlimited distribution license obviously offers the greatest flexibility and freedom, as has been discussed previously the price tag is way too high for many when paying up front. So I've thought of another method. What are your opinions of a single product license, which would allow you to make and sell as many copies as you could manage, of one single game? This license would be somewhere around the $150 mark, and would let you sort of test the waters commercially. If that first game sold well, you could then get pro at a later date or get another single product license for the next title as well if prefered, etc. I'd be greatful for any feedback on this. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for June 2010
91 people posted 1643 messages. 283 From, Thomas Ward. 207 From, Hayden Presley. 157 From, dark. 145 From, Bryan Peterson. 110 From, Charles Rivard. 94 From, Muhammed Deniz. 86 From, shaun everiss. 55 From, Lori Duncan. 50 From, Castanedagarcia_Alfredo. 35 From, Phil Vlasak. 31 From, clement chou. 29 From, Jim Kitchen. 24 From, Damien Pendleton. 21 From, ENES SARIBAž. 19 From, Ben. 19 From, william lomas. 14 From, Orin. 12 From, Steve S. 11 From, Philip Bennefall. 11 From, William L. Houts. 10 From, Gary Whittington. 10 From, key stone. 8 From, Dakotah Rickard. 8 From, Gamers Chat Robot. 7 From, David Mehler. 7 From, Eleanor. 7 From, Jorge Gonçalves. 7 From, Mike Maslo. 6 From, aadorno. 6 From, Jacob Kruger. 6 From, Milos Przic. 6 From, MissWings. 6 From, RONALD HOPKINS. 6 From, Valiant8086. 6 From, Yohandy. 5 From, Marja Karlsson. 5 From, peter Mahach. 5 From, Ryan Chou. 5 From, Scott Chesworth. 4 From, AudioGames. 4 From, Christopher Bartlett. 4 From, David Chittenden. 4 From, James Howard. 4 From, Johnny Tai. 4 From, Richard Sherman. 4 From, Ryan Conroy. 4 From, The Kolesar Brothers. 3 From, Allen. 3 From, John Bannick. 3 From, Josh. 3 From, Ken. 3 From, michael barnes. 3 From, Oriol Gómez. 3 From, Raul A. Gallegos. 3 From, weisi4u. 2 From, Bogdan Muresan. 2 From, Dean Masters. 2 From, Hayri Tulumcu. 2 From, Karl. 2 From, Liam Erven. 2 From, Lisa Hayes. 2 From, mark Torgerson. 2 From, Mich. 2 From, Ramy Moustafa. 2 From, Sabahattin Gucukoglu. 2 From, Sarah Haake. 2 From, Sylvester Thomas. 1 From, Angellko21. 1 From, cokun altun. 1 From, Dallas O'Brien. 1 From, Davy Kager. 1 From, djc. 1 From, eleni christodoulou. 1 From, Gamers List Guidelines Robot. 1 From, Greg. 1 From, jamie coady. 1 From, jason. 1 From, jennifer. 1 From, Jerry White. 1 From, John Snowling. 1 From, Kelvin Tan. 1 From, Kimsan. 1 From, Louis Bryant. 1 From, Michael Feir. 1 From, Mike Reiser. 1 From, oriol. 1 From, Shirley Starblanket. 1 From, Thomas Ward. 1 From, valiant8086. 1 From, valiant8086. 1 From, Wil James. Archive file size 5316101 bytes Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for June 2010
There were 202 thread titles. Here are the top 50. Important MOTA News 230. Thoughts About Healing Potions 101. SOD 70. Reviewing Games was getting back to the store 58. startrek games 58. accessible game companies with offices 35. Star Trekk Games,both Final Conflict and Trekk 2000... 34. Final Conflict and Treck 2000 30. Has anyone actually managed to beat Q-9 29. Registration methods 28. Panning Weapon Sounds in MOTA 27. looking for a good rpg. 25. Q9 full audio demo 25. [audyssey] Spoilers 20. Help with MOTA. 20. Bop It with shout mode. 18. entombed question 18. getting back to the store on entombed 17. 64 bit computer 16. shades of doom? 16. the vi-fit project 16. materiamagica 15. Star Trekk Games,both Final Conflict and Trekk 2000... 14. Torches in MOTA. 14. Boppitt with Shout moad Question 13. levers in mota 13. Treshure hunt 13. MK trailer and news 12. MOTA Instructions 12. Raceway was The other side 12. sidescroller 12. accessible game companies with offices 11. message from a lousy gamer 11. Organizing the Free Games Page 11. Paying for GMA Games 11. Advice on implamenting accessibility into avisual/graphical game? 10. Advice on implamenting accessibility intoavisual/graphical game? 10. lone wolf question 10. Technoshock help level 2 10. your review 10. MOTA Download 9. pigion panick 9. question 9. SAPI and VB Script 9. financial colaboration was: a drastic changeisneededfor audio games. 8. Game Chat Reminder 8. Game Modding was StarTrek Games 8. lone wolf missions 8. medusa in MOTA 8. TOC 8. Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] WII Bowling
Hi Charles, Thanks. I am having lots of fun with the bowling. Probably more fun than the sighted folks that I am beating. grin Yes, you first use an arrow key to move to where you want to start your approach. Then you hold in a button. Now you swing your arm and release the button to release the ball. So you can get a loft and yes twisting your wrist gives the ball a hook. You can though like for some spares throw the ball with no hook by holding your wrist very straight during your arm swing. You also want your arm swing to be straight as well. And yes, although I have not done it they have shown me how you can drop your ball on a person's foot or turn around and hear the people scream and scatter as you are about to throw your ball at them. I do not believe that you can foul, that is cross the foul line. Not sure though. Maybe if you swing your arm and do not release the button. I'll have to ask. BFN Jim Shopping tip: You can get shoes for 85 cents at the bowling alley. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Boppitt with Shout moad Question
Hi Hayden, Oh cool, I'll have to try that. Thanks. BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, Lol, I should've guessed you'd go for the Simpsons. Actually, I've gotten way with just blowing into it, though I usually disable shout it myself. Best Regards, Hayden Jim There is no such thing as an I Pod E. Bart Simpson on blackboard. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Anyone play dark Legacy?
I have my two characters. It has been so long since I played last I need to learn how to play again. The crafting I never figured out but hopefully I can now. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Orin Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:33 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Anyone play dark Legacy? It's sweet now as I said. A friend of mine on Twitter said that the pBase wasn't nice in 2003. Hopefully she came on and checked it out. Idol XP is a sweet bonus, too. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 My attempt at a novel: http://tinyurl.com/2foa22l [O On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Mike Maslo wrote: I THINK I WILL HEAD THAT WAY AGAIN ALSO. The developer is extremely nice and helpful. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Orin Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:06 AM To: tb...@jigluhood.com Cc: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Anyone play dark Legacy? Hey all, I haven't been there in a while, but I have reason to go back again. Lots of new stuff, lots of it. Achievements, extremely awesome pet system that isn't just your basic pets, they're intelligent. Also quests that are more than Kill this and get quest points. Can't forget achievements as well. Crafting that sounds pretty epic. Check it out at http://www.dark-legacy.com I plan on getting up and going through the newbie tutorial that they changed since the last time I've been over there. Oh yeah, and did I forget the config screenreader option? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] entombed question
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Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro
Ah well philip, in that case I deffinately agree, good plan indeed. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro Hi Dark, Your second assumption is that which I am proposing. It would in my books be unfair to make people pay even more for the same thing, just because they're starting out. So if you purchase two single product licenses for 300, you can then upgrade to the unlimited version of pro for another 550 (making 850 all in total). Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for June 2010
Well, at least I wasn't 10. My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Audyssey Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:42 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for June 2010 91 people posted 1643 messages. 283 From, Thomas Ward. 207 From, Hayden Presley. 157 From, dark. 145 From, Bryan Peterson. 110 From, Charles Rivard. 94 From, Muhammed Deniz. 86 From, shaun everiss. 55 From, Lori Duncan. 50 From, Castanedagarcia_Alfredo. 35 From, Phil Vlasak. 31 From, clement chou. 29 From, Jim Kitchen. 24 From, Damien Pendleton. 21 From, ENES SARIBAž. 19 From, Ben. 19 From, william lomas. 14 From, Orin. 12 From, Steve S. 11 From, Philip Bennefall. 11 From, William L. Houts. 10 From, Gary Whittington. 10 From, key stone. 8 From, Dakotah Rickard. 8 From, Gamers Chat Robot. 7 From, David Mehler. 7 From, Eleanor. 7 From, Jorge Gonçalves. 7 From, Mike Maslo. 6 From, aadorno. 6 From, Jacob Kruger. 6 From, Milos Przic. 6 From, MissWings. 6 From, RONALD HOPKINS. 6 From, Valiant8086. 6 From, Yohandy. 5 From, Marja Karlsson. 5 From, peter Mahach. 5 From, Ryan Chou. 5 From, Scott Chesworth. 4 From, AudioGames. 4 From, Christopher Bartlett. 4 From, David Chittenden. 4 From, James Howard. 4 From, Johnny Tai. 4 From, Richard Sherman. 4 From, Ryan Conroy. 4 From, The Kolesar Brothers. 3 From, Allen. 3 From, John Bannick. 3 From, Josh. 3 From, Ken. 3 From, michael barnes. 3 From, Oriol Gómez. 3 From, Raul A. Gallegos. 3 From, weisi4u. 2 From, Bogdan Muresan. 2 From, Dean Masters. 2 From, Hayri Tulumcu. 2 From, Karl. 2 From, Liam Erven. 2 From, Lisa Hayes. 2 From, mark Torgerson. 2 From, Mich. 2 From, Ramy Moustafa. 2 From, Sabahattin Gucukoglu. 2 From, Sarah Haake. 2 From, Sylvester Thomas. 1 From, Angellko21. 1 From, cokun altun. 1 From, Dallas O'Brien. 1 From, Davy Kager. 1 From, djc. 1 From, eleni christodoulou. 1 From, Gamers List Guidelines Robot. 1 From, Greg. 1 From, jamie coady. 1 From, jason. 1 From, jennifer. 1 From, Jerry White. 1 From, John Snowling. 1 From, Kelvin Tan. 1 From, Kimsan. 1 From, Louis Bryant. 1 From, Michael Feir. 1 From, Mike Reiser. 1 From, oriol. 1 From, Shirley Starblanket. 1 From, Thomas Ward. 1 From, valiant8086. 1 From, valiant8086. 1 From, Wil James. Archive file size 5316101 bytes Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro
-- From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro Hi folks, I have been doing some thinking regarding the pro version of BGT. While an unlimited distribution license obviously offers the greatest flexibility and freedom, as has been discussed previously the price tag is way too high for many when paying up front. So I've thought of another method. What are your opinions of a single product license, which would allow you to make and sell as many copies as you could manage, of one single game? This license would be somewhere around the $150 mark, and would let you sort of test the waters commercially. If that first game sold well, you could then get pro at a later date or get another single product license for the next title as well if prefered, etc. I'd be greatful for any feedback on this. Kind regards, I think that's a great way to get started. It allows someone to try it for $65, then to sell one game for $150, then to really grown with the full $850 version. I really like this approach. Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Link to game recordings
Hi could someone send me the link to the page with Raul's recordings please? I can't find it in my favourites list. Thanks from Lori --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Link to game recordings
As you command oh master so I obey! http://www.liamerven.com/games/ Merely rub my lamp oh lord of the desert, ruler of the blue horizons and king of cammels and I, your servant, slave of the lamp for a hundred generations shal furnish your every whim! There is nothing I cannot do, unless you ask me to do anything I can't. Beware al Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:35 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Link to game recordings Hi could someone send me the link to the page with Raul's recordings please? I can't find it in my favourites list. Thanks from Lori --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Anyone play dark Legacy?
Well, I don't. My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: William L. Houts cad...@q.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:15 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Anyone play dark Legacy? Hey thanks for the heads up. I'm very eager to check this game out. I'll try both TopMudSites and MudConnector. --Billl - Original Message - From: Mike Maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Anyone play dark Legacy? CHECK MUDCONNECTOR FOR THAT IS NOT THE CORRECT ADDRESS TO USE. I PLAY IT BEFORE AND I REALLY LIKE IT THOUGH THE PLAYER BASE IS SMALL IT IS PRETTY COOL AND IT HAS A SCREEN READER MODE AND I KNOW THE GENTLMEN WHO IS THE DEVELOPER. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of William L. Houts Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 12:45 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Anyone play dark Legacy? The instructions for beginners say that you can play with a mud client, but when I trained VIP Mud on darklegacy.com 9898, nothing happened. Sigh, guess I'll have to use the browser. --Bill - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: tb...@jigluhood.com Cc: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 12:06 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Anyone play dark Legacy? Hey all, I haven't been there in a while, but I have reason to go back again. Lots of new stuff, lots of it. Achievements, extremely awesome pet system that isn't just your basic pets, they're intelligent. Also quests that are more than Kill this and get quest points. Can't forget achievements as well. Crafting that sounds pretty epic. Check it out at http://www.dark-legacy.com I plan on getting up and going through the newbie tutorial that they changed since the last time I've been over there. Oh yeah, and did I forget the config screenreader option? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro
Hi Philip, While I think that is a good idea I think charging a single license for say $150 is too low considering the market potential for a reasonable accessible game the commercial developer will make far more off that single title than the actual cost of the single license. Back when Montezuma's Revenge was in preorder status, before it became Mysteries of the Ancients, I grossed roughly $1,500 in sales and James North had grossed something like $2,000 off that title. Altogether, that's roughly $3,500 in preorder sales alone. When Mysteries of the Ancients eventually reaches a stable release I expect to make more in sales off the game. So with that in mind $150 is getting off pretty cheap all things considered. Anyway, what I think you might want to do is some sort of payment plan where by someone can buy the unlimited license version but do it on a monthly basis. Maybe do it in monthly installments of $100 over say an 8 month period. That way in half a year someone on a fixed income could feasably afford the unlimited license and still not have to pay $800 up front. Come to think of it there is another posibility I just thought of. With FMOD they have a limited sshareware license for $150. You can sell a few thousand copies of a single title using the FMOD API but it can't be any more than $10 or something like that. It is kind of a nice way to allow a game developer to test the market potential of a title without the FMOD developers under charging the game developer for the use of their API. Perhaps you could think of something similar for BGT. The beauty of this type of licence, from a strictly business point of view, is a game developer can make a couple of thousand or so off his her games, but only pay out $150 for a limited distribution licence. However, if they want to charge $30 and have unlimited sales then they have to purchase the Pro or Enterprise version of the software. Cheers! On 7/1/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi folks, I have been doing some thinking regarding the pro version of BGT. While an unlimited distribution license obviously offers the greatest flexibility and freedom, as has been discussed previously the price tag is way too high for many when paying up front. So I've thought of another method. What are your opinions of a single product license, which would allow you to make and sell as many copies as you could manage, of one single game? This license would be somewhere around the $150 mark, and would let you sort of test the waters commercially. If that first game sold well, you could then get pro at a later date or get another single product license for the next title as well if prefered, etc. I'd be greatful for any feedback on this. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for June 2010
Hi, Hmmm...207? Must be losing my touch... Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kitchen Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:42 AM To: Audyssey Subject: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for June 2010 91 people posted 1643 messages. 283 From, Thomas Ward. 207 From, Hayden Presley. 157 From, dark. 145 From, Bryan Peterson. 110 From, Charles Rivard. 94 From, Muhammed Deniz. 86 From, shaun everiss. 55 From, Lori Duncan. 50 From, Castanedagarcia_Alfredo. 35 From, Phil Vlasak. 31 From, clement chou. 29 From, Jim Kitchen. 24 From, Damien Pendleton. 21 From, ENES SARIBAž. 19 From, Ben. 19 From, william lomas. 14 From, Orin. 12 From, Steve S. 11 From, Philip Bennefall. 11 From, William L. Houts. 10 From, Gary Whittington. 10 From, key stone. 8 From, Dakotah Rickard. 8 From, Gamers Chat Robot. 7 From, David Mehler. 7 From, Eleanor. 7 From, Jorge Gonçalves. 7 From, Mike Maslo. 6 From, aadorno. 6 From, Jacob Kruger. 6 From, Milos Przic. 6 From, MissWings. 6 From, RONALD HOPKINS. 6 From, Valiant8086. 6 From, Yohandy. 5 From, Marja Karlsson. 5 From, peter Mahach. 5 From, Ryan Chou. 5 From, Scott Chesworth. 4 From, AudioGames. 4 From, Christopher Bartlett. 4 From, David Chittenden. 4 From, James Howard. 4 From, Johnny Tai. 4 From, Richard Sherman. 4 From, Ryan Conroy. 4 From, The Kolesar Brothers. 3 From, Allen. 3 From, John Bannick. 3 From, Josh. 3 From, Ken. 3 From, michael barnes. 3 From, Oriol Gómez. 3 From, Raul A. Gallegos. 3 From, weisi4u. 2 From, Bogdan Muresan. 2 From, Dean Masters. 2 From, Hayri Tulumcu. 2 From, Karl. 2 From, Liam Erven. 2 From, Lisa Hayes. 2 From, mark Torgerson. 2 From, Mich. 2 From, Ramy Moustafa. 2 From, Sabahattin Gucukoglu. 2 From, Sarah Haake. 2 From, Sylvester Thomas. 1 From, Angellko21. 1 From, cokun altun. 1 From, Dallas O'Brien. 1 From, Davy Kager. 1 From, djc. 1 From, eleni christodoulou. 1 From, Gamers List Guidelines Robot. 1 From, Greg. 1 From, jamie coady. 1 From, jason. 1 From, jennifer. 1 From, Jerry White. 1 From, John Snowling. 1 From, Kelvin Tan. 1 From, Kimsan. 1 From, Louis Bryant. 1 From, Michael Feir. 1 From, Mike Reiser. 1 From, oriol. 1 From, Shirley Starblanket. 1 From, Thomas Ward. 1 From, valiant8086. 1 From, valiant8086. 1 From, Wil James. Archive file size 5316101 bytes Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for June 2010
Hi, Wow...I didn't realize MOTA news had that many posts. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kitchen Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:42 AM To: Audyssey Subject: [Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for June 2010 There were 202 thread titles. Here are the top 50. Important MOTA News 230. Thoughts About Healing Potions 101. SOD 70. Reviewing Games was getting back to the store 58. startrek games 58. accessible game companies with offices 35. Star Trekk Games,both Final Conflict and Trekk 2000... 34. Final Conflict and Treck 2000 30. Has anyone actually managed to beat Q-9 29. Registration methods 28. Panning Weapon Sounds in MOTA 27. looking for a good rpg. 25. Q9 full audio demo 25. [audyssey] Spoilers 20. Help with MOTA. 20. Bop It with shout mode. 18. entombed question 18. getting back to the store on entombed 17. 64 bit computer 16. shades of doom? 16. the vi-fit project 16. materiamagica 15. Star Trekk Games,both Final Conflict and Trekk 2000... 14. Torches in MOTA. 14. Boppitt with Shout moad Question 13. levers in mota 13. Treshure hunt 13. MK trailer and news 12. MOTA Instructions 12. Raceway was The other side 12. sidescroller 12. accessible game companies with offices 11. message from a lousy gamer 11. Organizing the Free Games Page 11. Paying for GMA Games 11. Advice on implamenting accessibility into avisual/graphical game? 10. Advice on implamenting accessibility intoavisual/graphical game? 10. lone wolf question 10. Technoshock help level 2 10. your review 10. MOTA Download 9. pigion panick 9. question 9. SAPI and VB Script 9. financial colaboration was: a drastic changeisneededfor audio games. 8. Game Chat Reminder 8. Game Modding was StarTrek Games 8. lone wolf missions 8. medusa in MOTA 8. TOC 8. Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro
Hi Dark, Well, I think Philip could simply fix that by charging some sort of upgrade fee where by a single license version can be upgraded to a unlimited license version at a later date. Lots of software developers have this type of license in place. For example, you can buy a Netbook with Windows 7 Starter on it. However, since Windows 7 has an any time upgrade type licence you can pay an upgrade fee to upgrade from Windows 7 Starter to Windows 7 Basic, Premium, Professional, or Ultimant without paying the full retail price. I think the same kind of thing could apply to BGT here. You start out with some kind of Starter licence and upgrade to a better license later on. On 7/1/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I can see the logic in this decision, however the one thing I'm not sure of is the way it would work in terms of the creative process. Look at all the times games have chan ged their nature in developement, or some elements from one game have been reused in another. Take Sarah for instance, which according to Phil basically started as a glorified packman mod with harry potter ghosts. Pluss there is then the investment issue, if you buy pro later, that 150 usd you've already paid for a single game license is pretty much wasted, and in fact you've paid 950 dollars for 800 dollars worth of licensing. This effectively means first time developers of games are simply adding to the price. As I said on audiogames.net, I stil am in favour of an installments type of process, where by people paid a certain amount of license fee for a certain amount of time up to the full amount. Of course, if this 150 usd per game is ten taken off the full price, so you pay 150 usd to develope your first bgt game and then have only another 650 usd to pay later, that is another story and wouldd I think be a far more reasonable option. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites
Hi Hayden, The security of a web site is up to the company who happens to be hosting the website not the person paying the monthly bill for the web hosting service. If a person happens to be paying somebody like Blue Host for web space and a website gets hacked that is Blue Host's fault for poor security. All the person paying Blue HOst has to do is upload the web pages, files, and manage his/her control panel to set up e-mail accounts, blogging software, shopping cart, whatever. However, security is the hosting companies domain. Smile. On 6/30/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Again? Gees. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for June 2010
Hi, Neither did I. It is obvious that Mysteries of the Ancients and Final Conflict were the most popular topics of the month. I didn't have any idea they were that quite popular. Entombed took a third this month which was pretty unusual. Lol! On 7/1/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Wow...I didn't realize MOTA news had that many posts. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for June 2010
Hi Jim, Ahem...Good grief. I had no idea I wrote that many posts. I knew I was writing a lot this month do to the MOTA and Star Trek topics, but this is almost a record for me. I must have had a bad case of diarrhea of the keyboard. Lol! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites
Hi all, I didn't see the beginning of this thread, but when I see the words Bluehost and hacker security in one and the same sentense I have to react. Smile. I used to love Bluehost. They had everything I needed for a ridiculously low fee, and their customer support was generally acceptable. Then, I had a series of hacker attacks on my website. After the first one I immediately called Bluehost and informed them of the situation, to which they replied that the probable cause was an out of date script that had a security hole. Fair enough, I asked them to make 100 % sure that I had all the latest versions which they also did. Ran upgrades, in other words. Then, about 3 hours later I had a similar attack where every single page of my website got infected. so I pick up the phone and call Bluehost once again, telling them that this was the second attack in one and the same day and that I had previously followed all their instructions to the letter. He basically said well, our servers are secure but we cannot guarantee security of user accounts. Well, then, what on earth is left to be secure? Unless they're refering to someone actually breaking in to the server hall and setting the machines on fire which is obviously far less likely than a hacker attack from the outside. I pointed this out and asked if there was anything they could do to try and help trace the attacker, or anything at all that they could do from their end. The reply was that no, we cannot, that is your own responsibility, start by reading this help desk article with security tips. That was the last straw and I blew my top Silently cursing the tech support team I immediately took my business elsewhere, and haven't had a single problem since. It is about 4 times as expensive but I also get about 4 times the up and downstream speed from their servers. So as regards to Bluehost helping secure websites against hacker attacks, this, in my opinion, is a joke. In the end, you always get what you pay for. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites Hi Hayden, The security of a web site is up to the company who happens to be hosting the website not the person paying the monthly bill for the web hosting service. If a person happens to be paying somebody like Blue Host for web space and a website gets hacked that is Blue Host's fault for poor security. All the person paying Blue HOst has to do is upload the web pages, files, and manage his/her control panel to set up e-mail accounts, blogging software, shopping cart, whatever. However, security is the hosting companies domain. Smile. On 6/30/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Again? Gees. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites
Hi all, I didn't see the beginning of this thread, but when I see the words Bluehost and hacker security in one and the same sentense I have to react. Smile. I used to love Bluehost. They had everything I needed for a ridiculously low fee, and their customer support was generally acceptable. Then, I had a series of hacker attacks on my website. After the first one I immediately called Bluehost and informed them of the situation, to which they replied that the probable cause was an out of date script that had a security hole. Fair enough, I asked them to make 100 % sure that I had all the latest versions which they also did. Ran upgrades, in other words. Then, about 3 hours later I had a similar attack where every single page of my website got infected. so I pick up the phone and call Bluehost once again, telling them that this was the second attack in one and the same day and that I had previously followed all their instructions to the letter. He basically said well, our servers are secure but we cannot guarantee security of user accounts. Well, then, what on earth is left to be secure? Unless they're refering to someone actually breaking in to the server hall and setting the machines on fire which is obviously far less likely than a hacker attack from the outside. I pointed this out and asked if there was anything they could do to try and help trace the attacker, or anything at all that they could do from their end. The reply was that no, we cannot, that is your own responsibility, start by reading this help desk article with security tips. That was the last straw and I blew my top Silently cursing the tech support team I immediately took my business elsewhere, and haven't had a single problem since. It is about 4 times as expensive but I also get about 4 times the up and downstream speed from their servers. So as regards to Bluehost helping secure websites against hacker attacks, this, in my opinion, is a joke. In the end, you always get what you pay for. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites Hi Hayden, The security of a web site is up to the company who happens to be hosting the website not the person paying the monthly bill for the web hosting service. If a person happens to be paying somebody like Blue Host for web space and a website gets hacked that is Blue Host's fault for poor security. All the person paying Blue HOst has to do is upload the web pages, files, and manage his/her control panel to set up e-mail accounts, blogging software, shopping cart, whatever. However, security is the hosting companies domain. Smile. On 6/30/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Again? Gees. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro
Hi Thomas, It is my opinion also that the majority of accessible games make a lot more than a few hundred dollars which as you say makes the 150 dollar price tag pretty low. But on the other hand, I have received a lot of messages saying that the pro version is too expensive and since I don't like the idea of all the extra bookkeeping involved in a payment plan, I figured I'd settle for a bit of a compromize. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro Hi Philip, While I think that is a good idea I think charging a single license for say $150 is too low considering the market potential for a reasonable accessible game the commercial developer will make far more off that single title than the actual cost of the single license. Back when Montezuma's Revenge was in preorder status, before it became Mysteries of the Ancients, I grossed roughly $1,500 in sales and James North had grossed something like $2,000 off that title. Altogether, that's roughly $3,500 in preorder sales alone. When Mysteries of the Ancients eventually reaches a stable release I expect to make more in sales off the game. So with that in mind $150 is getting off pretty cheap all things considered. Anyway, what I think you might want to do is some sort of payment plan where by someone can buy the unlimited license version but do it on a monthly basis. Maybe do it in monthly installments of $100 over say an 8 month period. That way in half a year someone on a fixed income could feasably afford the unlimited license and still not have to pay $800 up front. Come to think of it there is another posibility I just thought of. With FMOD they have a limited sshareware license for $150. You can sell a few thousand copies of a single title using the FMOD API but it can't be any more than $10 or something like that. It is kind of a nice way to allow a game developer to test the market potential of a title without the FMOD developers under charging the game developer for the use of their API. Perhaps you could think of something similar for BGT. The beauty of this type of licence, from a strictly business point of view, is a game developer can make a couple of thousand or so off his her games, but only pay out $150 for a limited distribution licence. However, if they want to charge $30 and have unlimited sales then they have to purchase the Pro or Enterprise version of the software. Cheers! On 7/1/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi folks, I have been doing some thinking regarding the pro version of BGT. While an unlimited distribution license obviously offers the greatest flexibility and freedom, as has been discussed previously the price tag is way too high for many when paying up front. So I've thought of another method. What are your opinions of a single product license, which would allow you to make and sell as many copies as you could manage, of one single game? This license would be somewhere around the $150 mark, and would let you sort of test the waters commercially. If that first game sold well, you could then get pro at a later date or get another single product license for the next title as well if prefered, etc. I'd be greatful for any feedback on this. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The price of BGT Pro
Hi Philip, That's quite understandable. I wouldn't really want to do all that book keeping either. That's why I gave you the suggestion of adding some extra restrictions to the single license version. Firelight Technologies, for example, has a low cost version of FMOD, but if you purchase the shareware license you can't charge more than $10 or $15 for a single game. That keeps the price of the games low, and allows a developer to get his or her stuff out there, but they are not going to be able to charge full price for their games because of the license restrictions. If they want to charge more they have to pay more for the FMOD license. Same could apply with BGT, and there wouldn't be a lot of book keeping involved. This makes it both affordable for a new developer, but also keeps them from making lots of money off a game with that particular license. Smile. On 7/1/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi Thomas, It is my opinion also that the majority of accessible games make a lot more than a few hundred dollars which as you say makes the 150 dollar price tag pretty low. But on the other hand, I have received a lot of messages saying that the pro version is too expensive and since I don't like the idea of all the extra bookkeeping involved in a payment plan, I figured I'd settle for a bit of a compromize. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites
Hi Philip, Sad to say your's isn't the only case like that I heard of. Blue Host, in my opinion, is crap. They regularly have security problems, sloppy security, and then they always blame the user if anything goes wrong. Yet it really is their responcibility to see that their servers are up to date, secure, and virus free if possible. On 7/1/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi all, I didn't see the beginning of this thread, but when I see the words Bluehost and hacker security in one and the same sentense I have to react. Smile. I used to love Bluehost. They had everything I needed for a ridiculously low fee, and their customer support was generally acceptable. Then, I had a series of hacker attacks on my website. After the first one I immediately called Bluehost and informed them of the situation, to which they replied that the probable cause was an out of date script that had a security hole. Fair enough, I asked them to make 100 % sure that I had all the latest versions which they also did. Ran upgrades, in other words. Then, about 3 hours later I had a similar attack where every single page of my website got infected. so I pick up the phone and call Bluehost once again, telling them that this was the second attack in one and the same day and that I had previously followed all their instructions to the letter. He basically said well, our servers are secure but we cannot guarantee security of user accounts. Well, then, what on earth is left to be secure? Unless they're refering to someone actually breaking in to the server hall and setting the machines on fire which is obviously far less likely than a hacker attack from the outside. I pointed this out and asked if there was anything they could do to try and help trace the attacker, or anything at all that they could do from their end. The reply was that no, we cannot, that is your own responsibility, start by reading this help desk article with security tips. That was the last straw and I blew my top Silently cursing the tech support team I immediately took my business elsewhere, and haven't had a single problem since. It is about 4 times as expensive but I also get about 4 times the up and downstream speed from their servers. So as regards to Bluehost helping secure websites against hacker attacks, this, in my opinion, is a joke. In the end, you always get what you pay for. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites
In my opinion, the best solution is to get your own custom vps or virtual server if you can. That way people will not target you if they decide to go against certain hosting company. In my experience, me and the person i share a linnode with have been running websites for more than a year on the same server and we've never had any issues. On 7/1/10, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Philip, Sad to say your's isn't the only case like that I heard of. Blue Host, in my opinion, is crap. They regularly have security problems, sloppy security, and then they always blame the user if anything goes wrong. Yet it really is their responcibility to see that their servers are up to date, secure, and virus free if possible. On 7/1/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi all, I didn't see the beginning of this thread, but when I see the words Bluehost and hacker security in one and the same sentense I have to react. Smile. I used to love Bluehost. They had everything I needed for a ridiculously low fee, and their customer support was generally acceptable. Then, I had a series of hacker attacks on my website. After the first one I immediately called Bluehost and informed them of the situation, to which they replied that the probable cause was an out of date script that had a security hole. Fair enough, I asked them to make 100 % sure that I had all the latest versions which they also did. Ran upgrades, in other words. Then, about 3 hours later I had a similar attack where every single page of my website got infected. so I pick up the phone and call Bluehost once again, telling them that this was the second attack in one and the same day and that I had previously followed all their instructions to the letter. He basically said well, our servers are secure but we cannot guarantee security of user accounts. Well, then, what on earth is left to be secure? Unless they're refering to someone actually breaking in to the server hall and setting the machines on fire which is obviously far less likely than a hacker attack from the outside. I pointed this out and asked if there was anything they could do to try and help trace the attacker, or anything at all that they could do from their end. The reply was that no, we cannot, that is your own responsibility, start by reading this help desk article with security tips. That was the last straw and I blew my top Silently cursing the tech support team I immediately took my business elsewhere, and haven't had a single problem since. It is about 4 times as expensive but I also get about 4 times the up and downstream speed from their servers. So as regards to Bluehost helping secure websites against hacker attacks, this, in my opinion, is a joke. In the end, you always get what you pay for. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict
and with a voice! Lol -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh Sent: 08 June 2010 23:46 To: gamers list Subject: [Audyssey] star trek final conflict Hi I hope in stfc2 you can use the main deflector as a weapon, and also I hope the borg will be a bit harder to beat. Josh -- Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] levers in mota
What rope -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 08 June 2010 23:36 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] levers in mota Hi, S P O I L E R Oh, one thing I forgot, try checking to the left of that rope, there's something there now. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] levers in mota Hello Clement, The levers unlock various statues and certain doors on the level. However, just because a lever is close to a certain door or statue doesn't mean that is the one it necessarily unlocks. That's part of the game's puzzle element. So to unlock a certain door or statue you must unlock its lever somewhere else on the level. On 6/6/10, clement chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: So, question. I'm trying to find my way in the game, but after the water area, I can't traverse either way. Left and right go to dead ends, the right end having a locked statue. Yet I haven't found any keys yet. Tips please? Also, what are the levers suposed to do, I've pulled every single one I've fond and nothing's happened. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] levers in mota
The swinging one. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] levers in mota What rope -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 08 June 2010 23:36 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] levers in mota Hi, S P O I L E R Oh, one thing I forgot, try checking to the left of that rope, there's something there now. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] levers in mota Hello Clement, The levers unlock various statues and certain doors on the level. However, just because a lever is close to a certain door or statue doesn't mean that is the one it necessarily unlocks. That's part of the game's puzzle element. So to unlock a certain door or statue you must unlock its lever somewhere else on the level. On 6/6/10, clement chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: So, question. I'm trying to find my way in the game, but after the water area, I can't traverse either way. Left and right go to dead ends, the right end having a locked statue. Yet I haven't found any keys yet. Tips please? Also, what are the levers suposed to do, I've pulled every single one I've fond and nothing's happened. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] new beta
hi Tom, when do you ohpe to have the new beta out for the 3d FPS vrsion? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] new beta
When it's ready. LOL. I don't imagine Thomas is going to announce release dates or even time frames in case he's not able to meet them whatever the reason. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: [Audyssey] new beta hi Tom, when do you ohpe to have the new beta out for the 3d FPS vrsion? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites
Hi, I didn't catch the beginning of this thread either, but I agree with Oriol's post, a vps, it's more expensive, but in my opinion it's worth it. I also avoid control panels whereever possible as I've found, that yes you can set something up quickly, but if there's a flaw in that panel chances are your going to get hit. Also, if your using php code or some other server or client scripting on your site, separate from what your host provides, making sure that's as up to date is also critical. Hth Dave. On 7/1/10, Oriol Gómez ogomez@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion, the best solution is to get your own custom vps or virtual server if you can. That way people will not target you if they decide to go against certain hosting company. In my experience, me and the person i share a linnode with have been running websites for more than a year on the same server and we've never had any issues. On 7/1/10, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Philip, Sad to say your's isn't the only case like that I heard of. Blue Host, in my opinion, is crap. They regularly have security problems, sloppy security, and then they always blame the user if anything goes wrong. Yet it really is their responcibility to see that their servers are up to date, secure, and virus free if possible. On 7/1/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi all, I didn't see the beginning of this thread, but when I see the words Bluehost and hacker security in one and the same sentense I have to react. Smile. I used to love Bluehost. They had everything I needed for a ridiculously low fee, and their customer support was generally acceptable. Then, I had a series of hacker attacks on my website. After the first one I immediately called Bluehost and informed them of the situation, to which they replied that the probable cause was an out of date script that had a security hole. Fair enough, I asked them to make 100 % sure that I had all the latest versions which they also did. Ran upgrades, in other words. Then, about 3 hours later I had a similar attack where every single page of my website got infected. so I pick up the phone and call Bluehost once again, telling them that this was the second attack in one and the same day and that I had previously followed all their instructions to the letter. He basically said well, our servers are secure but we cannot guarantee security of user accounts. Well, then, what on earth is left to be secure? Unless they're refering to someone actually breaking in to the server hall and setting the machines on fire which is obviously far less likely than a hacker attack from the outside. I pointed this out and asked if there was anything they could do to try and help trace the attacker, or anything at all that they could do from their end. The reply was that no, we cannot, that is your own responsibility, start by reading this help desk article with security tips. That was the last straw and I blew my top Silently cursing the tech support team I immediately took my business elsewhere, and haven't had a single problem since. It is about 4 times as expensive but I also get about 4 times the up and downstream speed from their servers. So as regards to Bluehost helping secure websites against hacker attacks, this, in my opinion, is a joke. In the end, you always get what you pay for. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites
Well, wasn't bluehost rude? Oh, yeah? Your the host blue hoste, your the main part of it, you ikspekt people to figure it on their own where they don't no the stuff and not even bother to fix a singol problem? In my oppinyin, blue hoste was quite rude to you Philip. Ok, they could of said we don't no, but they were still rude to you. My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites Hi all, I didn't see the beginning of this thread, but when I see the words Bluehost and hacker security in one and the same sentense I have to react. Smile. I used to love Bluehost. They had everything I needed for a ridiculously low fee, and their customer support was generally acceptable. Then, I had a series of hacker attacks on my website. After the first one I immediately called Bluehost and informed them of the situation, to which they replied that the probable cause was an out of date script that had a security hole. Fair enough, I asked them to make 100 % sure that I had all the latest versions which they also did. Ran upgrades, in other words. Then, about 3 hours later I had a similar attack where every single page of my website got infected. so I pick up the phone and call Bluehost once again, telling them that this was the second attack in one and the same day and that I had previously followed all their instructions to the letter. He basically said well, our servers are secure but we cannot guarantee security of user accounts. Well, then, what on earth is left to be secure? Unless they're refering to someone actually breaking in to the server hall and setting the machines on fire which is obviously far less likely than a hacker attack from the outside. I pointed this out and asked if there was anything they could do to try and help trace the attacker, or anything at all that they could do from their end. The reply was that no, we cannot, that is your own responsibility, start by reading this help desk article with security tips. That was the last straw and I blew my top Silently cursing the tech support team I immediately took my business elsewhere, and haven't had a single problem since. It is about 4 times as expensive but I also get about 4 times the up and downstream speed from their servers. So as regards to Bluehost helping secure websites against hacker attacks, this, in my opinion, is a joke. In the end, you always get what you pay for. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites Hi Hayden, The security of a web site is up to the company who happens to be hosting the website not the person paying the monthly bill for the web hosting service. If a person happens to be paying somebody like Blue Host for web space and a website gets hacked that is Blue Host's fault for poor security. All the person paying Blue HOst has to do is upload the web pages, files, and manage his/her control panel to set up e-mail accounts, blogging software, shopping cart, whatever. However, security is the hosting companies domain. Smile. On 6/30/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Again? Gees. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] new beta
I think it'd take a while to release the new 3d beta. My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta When it's ready. LOL. I don't imagine Thomas is going to announce release dates or even time frames in case he's not able to meet them whatever the reason. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: [Audyssey] new beta hi Tom, when do you ohpe to have the new beta out for the 3d FPS vrsion? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] entombed walkthrough
hi, is there a walkthrough or spoiler guide text or audio for entombed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] new beta
Hi William, Honestly I don't know for sure. I'm working on it plus the side-scroller version and it is taking much longer than expected do to a number of bugs and technical issues that popped up during the conversion process. So it will be ready when it is ready. Sorry, I can't be any more specific than that. Now, if you had asked about the side-scroller version that one is almost ready. I just let my private testers have it, they will be testing it this week, and so therefore it is probibly ready for release pretty soon, but the fps needs quite a lot more work done to it before it gets released. Plus I have to run it through private testing which will take longer. HTH On 7/1/10, william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote: hi Tom, when do you ohpe to have the new beta out for the 3d FPS vrsion? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] levers in mota
Hi Ben, Well, there are several ropes throughout the game, but I assume here he was talking about the rope in room 2 that leads up into room 4. You can't miss it. On 7/1/10, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: What rope --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites
Hi, Running your own VPS is certainly the best solution. I personally love Linode, which I don't find too expensive. By using a VPS, I get full root access to any Linux distribution of my choice (I prefer Debian), and I get to secure the system myself. I won't have to depend on someone to update software, setup security policies, etc. Since I have root access, I have the ability to install or program software. We were able to program, administrate, and run Monopoly (and soon to to be Uno), all through a VPS, which wouldn't be possible on a shared host like BlueHost. I suppose a VPS wouldn't be a good solution for someone who is new to Linux, but someone could always learn. It is not the best idea to be dependent on the shared hosting company to secure the server for you. -Ryan www.rsgames.co.nr Come join Monopoly, winner of the BlindBargain's accessible game of the year, for free, with over 2500 players! 2010/7/1 Oriol Gómez ogomez@gmail.com: In my opinion, the best solution is to get your own custom vps or virtual server if you can. That way people will not target you if they decide to go against certain hosting company. In my experience, me and the person i share a linnode with have been running websites for more than a year on the same server and we've never had any issues. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a reminder to secure your sites
Hi, Well, I definitely think a VPS is the best solution, but only if the person is an experienced network administrator. An incompetent VPS administrator is as bad or worse than using something like Blue Host. However, if the person is experienced in setting up and configuring something like the iptables firewall, apache web server, sendmail for e-mail, etc then it is the obvious best solution all around. You can basicly apply security updates as needed, upgrade the system, customize everything your way, and have absolute dominion over every aspect of that server. That's pretty cool, but unfortunately not just anybody can do that competently. Smile. On 7/1/10, Ryan Smith computerwi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Running your own VPS is certainly the best solution. I personally love Linode, which I don't find too expensive. By using a VPS, I get full root access to any Linux distribution of my choice (I prefer Debian), and I get to secure the system myself. I won't have to depend on someone to update software, setup security policies, etc. Since I have root access, I have the ability to install or program software. We were able to program, administrate, and run Monopoly (and soon to to be Uno), all through a VPS, which wouldn't be possible on a shared host like BlueHost. I suppose a VPS wouldn't be a good solution for someone who is new to Linux, but someone could always learn. It is not the best idea to be dependent on the shared hosting company to secure the server for you. -Ryan www.rsgames.co.nr Come join Monopoly, winner of the BlindBargain's accessible game of the year, for free, with over 2500 players! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] entombed walkthrough
no there is not any kind of walkthrough -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] entombed walkthrough
Hi Enes, I've saidthis before, and I'll say it again. You should try and figure out this game on your own, regardless of wether you care or don't care about spoilers. There's no point in playing the thing if you already know the entire dungeon before exploring it. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of ENES SARIBAS Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:10 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] entombed walkthrough hi, is there a walkthrough or spoiler guide text or audio for entombed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for June 2010
If I've been busy elsewhere, and sent that many in, Thomas Ward has really been busy! Sheesh! - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Audyssey Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:42 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for June 2010 91 people posted 1643 messages. 283 From, Thomas Ward. 207 From, Hayden Presley. 157 From, dark. 145 From, Bryan Peterson. 110 From, Charles Rivard. 94 From, Muhammed Deniz. 86 From, shaun everiss. 55 From, Lori Duncan. 50 From, Castanedagarcia_Alfredo. 35 From, Phil Vlasak. 31 From, clement chou. 29 From, Jim Kitchen. 24 From, Damien Pendleton. 21 From, ENES SARIBAž. 19 From, Ben. 19 From, william lomas. 14 From, Orin. 12 From, Steve S. 11 From, Philip Bennefall. 11 From, William L. Houts. 10 From, Gary Whittington. 10 From, key stone. 8 From, Dakotah Rickard. 8 From, Gamers Chat Robot. 7 From, David Mehler. 7 From, Eleanor. 7 From, Jorge Gonçalves. 7 From, Mike Maslo. 6 From, aadorno. 6 From, Jacob Kruger. 6 From, Milos Przic. 6 From, MissWings. 6 From, RONALD HOPKINS. 6 From, Valiant8086. 6 From, Yohandy. 5 From, Marja Karlsson. 5 From, peter Mahach. 5 From, Ryan Chou. 5 From, Scott Chesworth. 4 From, AudioGames. 4 From, Christopher Bartlett. 4 From, David Chittenden. 4 From, James Howard. 4 From, Johnny Tai. 4 From, Richard Sherman. 4 From, Ryan Conroy. 4 From, The Kolesar Brothers. 3 From, Allen. 3 From, John Bannick. 3 From, Josh. 3 From, Ken. 3 From, michael barnes. 3 From, Oriol Gómez. 3 From, Raul A. Gallegos. 3 From, weisi4u. 2 From, Bogdan Muresan. 2 From, Dean Masters. 2 From, Hayri Tulumcu. 2 From, Karl. 2 From, Liam Erven. 2 From, Lisa Hayes. 2 From, mark Torgerson. 2 From, Mich. 2 From, Ramy Moustafa. 2 From, Sabahattin Gucukoglu. 2 From, Sarah Haake. 2 From, Sylvester Thomas. 1 From, Angellko21. 1 From, cokun altun. 1 From, Dallas O'Brien. 1 From, Davy Kager. 1 From, djc. 1 From, eleni christodoulou. 1 From, Gamers List Guidelines Robot. 1 From, Greg. 1 From, jamie coady. 1 From, jason. 1 From, jennifer. 1 From, Jerry White. 1 From, John Snowling. 1 From, Kelvin Tan. 1 From, Kimsan. 1 From, Louis Bryant. 1 From, Michael Feir. 1 From, Mike Reiser. 1 From, oriol. 1 From, Shirley Starblanket. 1 From, Thomas Ward. 1 From, valiant8086. 1 From, valiant8086. 1 From, Wil James. Archive file size 5316101 bytes Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for June 2010
Sounds like everyone's interested in MOTA, as I am. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Audyssey Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:42 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for June 2010 There were 202 thread titles. Here are the top 50. Important MOTA News 230. Thoughts About Healing Potions 101. SOD 70. Reviewing Games was getting back to the store 58. startrek games 58. accessible game companies with offices 35. Star Trekk Games,both Final Conflict and Trekk 2000... 34. Final Conflict and Treck 2000 30. Has anyone actually managed to beat Q-9 29. Registration methods 28. Panning Weapon Sounds in MOTA 27. looking for a good rpg. 25. Q9 full audio demo 25. [audyssey] Spoilers 20. Help with MOTA. 20. Bop It with shout mode. 18. entombed question 18. getting back to the store on entombed 17. 64 bit computer 16. shades of doom? 16. the vi-fit project 16. materiamagica 15. Star Trekk Games,both Final Conflict and Trekk 2000... 14. Torches in MOTA. 14. Boppitt with Shout moad Question 13. levers in mota 13. Treshure hunt 13. MK trailer and news 12. MOTA Instructions 12. Raceway was The other side 12. sidescroller 12. accessible game companies with offices 11. message from a lousy gamer 11. Organizing the Free Games Page 11. Paying for GMA Games 11. Advice on implamenting accessibility into avisual/graphical game? 10. Advice on implamenting accessibility intoavisual/graphical game? 10. lone wolf question 10. Technoshock help level 2 10. your review 10. MOTA Download 9. pigion panick 9. question 9. SAPI and VB Script 9. financial colaboration was: a drastic changeisneededfor audio games. 8. Game Chat Reminder 8. Game Modding was StarTrek Games 8. lone wolf missions 8. medusa in MOTA 8. TOC 8. Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Friday's Out of Sight events
Here are the events scheduled for Friday, July 2nd: Word Burst 6:00 PM eastern Hosted by Kathy Mertz Location: Games Anyone Do you love to play Outburst? Do you love words? Let's put the two together and play Word Burst! Word Burst is the same as Outburst, except that you don't call out items in categories, such as Elvis hits or makes of cars. Instead, the members of each team call out anagrams of the word I will give you. So come in and find the words within a word. Hope to see you there. Crossword 8:00 PM eastern Hosted by Jeannette Location: Games Anyone If you like figuring out crossword puzzles, join Jeanette on the first Friday of every month. Keep your brains sharp with this fun and challenging event. The Out of Sight main site is at: http://www.out-of-sight.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] entombed walkthrough
hi hayden, but how can i know the dungeon? isn't it randomized? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] entombed walkthrough
Hi By using the slash key or the shift to bring up a context menu, nearest unexplored space comes up. When the level has been completely explored it wil also tell you that. - Original Message - From: ENES SARIBAS enes.sari...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 1:25 AM Subject: [Audyssey] entombed walkthrough hi hayden, but how can i know the dungeon? isn't it randomized? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
