Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!
Hi Bryan, Best of luck. I hope the wedding goes well, and wish you the best of happiness. Cheers! On 10/3/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Cool. Not that I'm anywhere near that point yet as I've said, but I'm working on it, albeit extremely slowly. Got a lot going on what with my fiance and I planning to tie the knot on Friday and the preparations for that. But she's expressed interest in audio games before and how they work so maybe I'll see if we couldn't work together on some of them. She's pretty good with computers. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] (no subject)
Keep it good quality, have a t3 connection so downloading is fine. Mike -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 8:31 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] (no subject) Hi everyone, Ok, it has come to my attention that some of you were upset or worried about the file size of the unofficial release of MOTA beta 14. I'm basically writing this to find out if some of you really want to have me compress those sounds down to something more managable to like 50 MB which will take a slight performance hit as well as some loss of audio quality or just have me upload the full release in the next couple of days using uncompress wav files. I can basically do either one here, but just want to know what the comunity wants in terms of installation size vs quality. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] (no subject)
Would rather myself no good quality, as then the game will run smoother Those on dialup will ahve to get someone else to get it for them why should rest of us suffer and lose quality On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Mike Reiser wrote: Keep it good quality, have a t3 connection so downloading is fine. Mike -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 8:31 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] (no subject) Hi everyone, Ok, it has come to my attention that some of you were upset or worried about the file size of the unofficial release of MOTA beta 14. I'm basically writing this to find out if some of you really want to have me compress those sounds down to something more managable to like 50 MB which will take a slight performance hit as well as some loss of audio quality or just have me upload the full release in the next couple of days using uncompress wav files. I can basically do either one here, but just want to know what the comunity wants in terms of installation size vs quality. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] (no subject)
Hi Tom and all, Quality all the way! So no matter if the file size is 200 or 300 mb, if it is because of the quality then it's ok. Best! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] (no subject) Hi, I'm in favor of quality myself. I have a fast Internet connection oer here so may be biased, but downloading a large file isn't something I mind doing. Best, Zack. On Sun, 3 Oct 2010, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi everyone, Ok, it has come to my attention that some of you were upset or worried about the file size of the unofficial release of MOTA beta 14. I'm basically writing this to find out if some of you really want to have me compress those sounds down to something more managable to like 50 MB which will take a slight performance hit as well as some loss of audio quality or just have me upload the full release in the next couple of days using uncompress wav files. I can basically do either one here, but just want to know what the comunity wants in terms of installation size vs quality. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5500 (20101003) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5500 (20101003) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!
Thanks. As I may have said it's just unfortunate that her own folks don't think it's important enough to ask for the day off from work. Their loss I suppose. But yeah, if I can find a decent sound effects vender where the prices won't totally break the bank I may see if she wouldn't be interested in working with me since she likes computer and video games and seems genuinely fascinated by how audio games would work. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hi Bryan, Best of luck. I hope the wedding goes well, and wish you the best of happiness. Cheers! On 10/3/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Cool. Not that I'm anywhere near that point yet as I've said, but I'm working on it, albeit extremely slowly. Got a lot going on what with my fiance and I planning to tie the knot on Friday and the preparations for that. But she's expressed interest in audio games before and how they work so maybe I'll see if we couldn't work together on some of them. She's pretty good with computers. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota 14
Hi Charles, Very true. Although, I can say I tried doing a recording earlier and the 3d version has a number of bugs in it such as the torch burning out but you can still hear it burning and things like that. That's one of those bugs I never fixed in the Genesis Engine, but the new cross-platform engine, Open G3D, doesn't seam to have knock on wood. Kind of funny that I've gotten so use to the new Open G3D engine that just playing the FPS version using the old engine felt weird. Several bugs I had fixed were back, and I hadn't played the game in so long that it took me a couple of tries to get use to playing the 3d version again. So I'll be very glad to get the code ported over to the new engine pretty soon. Smile. On 10/3/10, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: While a recording would be cool, if it won't be all that long before the 3D game comes out for testing before being marketed, it'll be even cooler when we can get our hands on it and able to make our own recordings while experiencing the game for ourselves. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] mota download size
Hi Thomas, I don't think you should compromise making the MOTA smaller. In today's world, if a person doesn't have a high speed internet connection then they will be missing out on plenty of things more than just large games, such as digital books on the BARD site and podcasts. You could recommend a download manager such as GetRight, www.getright.com That is what I ran when I was using a dial-up modem. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] (no subject)
No one I know uses dial up any more. If they did, they moved to normal broadband ages ago. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 04 October 2010 07:50 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] (no subject) Would rather myself no good quality, as then the game will run smoother Those on dialup will ahve to get someone else to get it for them why should rest of us suffer and lose quality On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Mike Reiser wrote: Keep it good quality, have a t3 connection so downloading is fine. Mike -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 8:31 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] (no subject) Hi everyone, Ok, it has come to my attention that some of you were upset or worried about the file size of the unofficial release of MOTA beta 14. I'm basically writing this to find out if some of you really want to have me compress those sounds down to something more managable to like 50 MB which will take a slight performance hit as well as some loss of audio quality or just have me upload the full release in the next couple of days using uncompress wav files. I can basically do either one here, but just want to know what the comunity wants in terms of installation size vs quality. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] (no subject)
Size doesn't bother me at all. While if it was several gb it might be an issue, I dcan't really conceive of it being a problem given the size of audio games. Sarah is I beleve somewhere around the 110 mb mark, so I shouldn't worry, especially if it's going to knock the quality of the audio which is afterall, rather the point in an audio game. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:31 AM Subject: [Audyssey] (no subject) Hi everyone, Ok, it has come to my attention that some of you were upset or worried about the file size of the unofficial release of MOTA beta 14. I'm basically writing this to find out if some of you really want to have me compress those sounds down to something more managable to like 50 MB which will take a slight performance hit as well as some loss of audio quality or just have me upload the full release in the next couple of days using uncompress wav files. I can basically do either one here, but just want to know what the comunity wants in terms of installation size vs quality. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
yeah, i agree with you guys. i'm also using free download manager here, it's pretty accessible. talking about the size of the game, i disagree that it should be compressed to 50 mb, for example, the mainstream games actualy have much more than 100 mb, the usual size for a game installed on your computer is 4 gb / 16 gb depending on what game it is. -Mensagem original- De: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Segunda, 4 de Outubro de 2010 16:26 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size ore you can use a download manager called Free Download Manager. you can get it from here: http://files2.freedownloadmanager.org/fdminst3.exe and it is accessible with JAWS. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Thomas, I don't think you should compromise making the MOTA smaller. In today's world, if a person doesn't have a high speed internet connection then they will be missing out on plenty of things more than just large games, such as digital books on the BARD site and podcasts. You could recommend a download manager such as GetRight, www.getright.com That is what I ran when I was using a dial-up modem. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] A new file
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Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
might I suggest a compressed zip file or something? On 10/7/10, Matheus r.c. souza an...@bol.com.br wrote: yeah, i agree with you guys. i'm also using free download manager here, it's pretty accessible. talking about the size of the game, i disagree that it should be compressed to 50 mb, for example, the mainstream games actualy have much more than 100 mb, the usual size for a game installed on your computer is 4 gb / 16 gb depending on what game it is. -Mensagem original- De: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Segunda, 4 de Outubro de 2010 16:26 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size ore you can use a download manager called Free Download Manager. you can get it from here: http://files2.freedownloadmanager.org/fdminst3.exe and it is accessible with JAWS. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Thomas, I don't think you should compromise making the MOTA smaller. In today's world, if a person doesn't have a high speed internet connection then they will be missing out on plenty of things more than just large games, such as digital books on the BARD site and podcasts. You could recommend a download manager such as GetRight, www.getright.com That is what I ran when I was using a dial-up modem. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota 14
A recording would be very interesting! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 03 October 2010 20:13 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota 14 Hi Ryan, Well,if you want I can make a recording of me playing the FPS version if you would like. That might helpgive you an idea of playing the game. Basically, all of the keyboard controls are fairly typical for a mainstream FPS game such as up arrow to run, down arrow to turn around in place, left/right turns you in place, shift-left and shift-right sidestep, alt-arrow keys jump, and control arrow keys are used for climbing. So if you walked into room 2 you would use the left/right arrow keys to center the enemy in your laser sight, use the spacebar to fire your gun, and then would use shift-up arrow to walk forward or press up arrow to run straight ahead.To climb the rope, which is in the center of the room, you have to center the sound in your headphones or speakers and use alt+up arrow to jump forward and grab the rope. Then, you could use control-up arrow to climb up into the next room above the one you are in. Does that make sense? Smile. On 10/3/10, Ryan Chou rc4896...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just wondering, what will the FPS be like? if possible could you give me an example maybe from the first room, shooting some thing and going up the rope --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] test. Ignore? Thanks.
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Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi Ryan, Sound files do not compress very much when zipped, and usually creating the install file does compress everything to as small of a download file size as possible. Phil - Original Message - From: Ryan Chou rc4896...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size might I suggest a compressed zip file or something? On 10/7/10, Matheus r.c. souza an...@bol.com.br wrote: yeah, i agree with you guys. i'm also using free download manager here, it's pretty accessible. talking about the size of the game, i disagree that it should be compressed to 50 mb, for example, the mainstream games actualy have much more than 100 mb, the usual size for a game installed on your computer is 4 gb / 16 gb depending on what game it is. -Mensagem original- De: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Segunda, 4 de Outubro de 2010 16:26 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size ore you can use a download manager called Free Download Manager. you can get it from here: http://files2.freedownloadmanager.org/fdminst3.exe and it is accessible with JAWS. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Thomas, I don't think you should compromise making the MOTA smaller. In today's world, if a person doesn't have a high speed internet connection then they will be missing out on plenty of things more than just large games, such as digital books on the BARD site and podcasts. You could recommend a download manager such as GetRight, www.getright.com That is what I ran when I was using a dial-up modem. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3174 - Release Date: 10/03/10 02:34:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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well, on my 10mb no cap connection large files aren't much of a problem, I so vote for quality. I remember back when the old mota (as in mysteries of the aztechs) had cd quality sounds, then for no reason thomas compressed the sounds to 22khz, which sounds, well, not as good as it used to. at the moment mota (the new one) SOUNDS excellent and it should stay that way imo. - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] (no subject) Hi, I'm in favor of quality myself. I have a fast Internet connection oer here so may be biased, but downloading a large file isn't something I mind doing. Best, Zack. On Sun, 3 Oct 2010, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi everyone, Ok, it has come to my attention that some of you were upset or worried about the file size of the unofficial release of MOTA beta 14. I'm basically writing this to find out if some of you really want to have me compress those sounds down to something more managable to like 50 MB which will take a slight performance hit as well as some loss of audio quality or just have me upload the full release in the next couple of days using uncompress wav files. I can basically do either one here, but just want to know what the comunity wants in terms of installation size vs quality. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi Phil. This all depends on which compression the installer uses, though multiple layers of compression rarely makes sense. I've done an experiment with zip and 7z (aka lzma2). Zip makes the file 90% its origional size, while lzma2 yields 80%. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Ryan, Sound files do not compress very much when zipped, and usually creating the install file does compress everything to as small of a download file size as possible. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota 14
I look forward to it. My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota 14 Hi Thomas, Yes, let's hear a recording of it. I've not been much into FPS style games but I'm definitely looking forward to this one. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Chou Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 3:00 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota 14 wow thomas now I wanna play it lol but seriously, can't wait for the FPS On 10/3/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Actually I wouldn't mind something like that either if it wouldn't inconvenience you too much. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota 14 Hi Ryan, Well,if you want I can make a recording of me playing the FPS version if you would like. That might helpgive you an idea of playing the game. Basically, all of the keyboard controls are fairly typical for a mainstream FPS game such as up arrow to run, down arrow to turn around in place, left/right turns you in place, shift-left and shift-right sidestep, alt-arrow keys jump, and control arrow keys are used for climbing. So if you walked into room 2 you would use the left/right arrow keys to center the enemy in your laser sight, use the spacebar to fire your gun, and then would use shift-up arrow to walk forward or press up arrow to run straight ahead.To climb the rope, which is in the center of the room, you have to center the sound in your headphones or speakers and use alt+up arrow to jump forward and grab the rope. Then, you could use control-up arrow to climb up into the next room above the one you are in. Does that make sense? Smile. On 10/3/10, Ryan Chou rc4896...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just wondering, what will the FPS be like? if possible could you give me an example maybe from the first room, shooting some thing and going up the rope --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi Phil, In my temporary spanker folder the 118 wave files, the 1 little text file, a tiny batch file and the spanker executable file add up to 2,401,704 bytes. When zipped they equal 1,703,313 bytes. And then making that zip file into a self extracting zip file makes it1,765,376 bytes. BFN Jim Do files get embarassed being unZIPped ? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!
Hey Bryan All the best my man. Years of happiness! I'd crash the party if I knew where. *lol* Ron - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hi Bryan, Best of luck. I hope the wedding goes well, and wish you the best of happiness. Cheers! On 10/3/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Cool. Not that I'm anywhere near that point yet as I've said, but I'm working on it, albeit extremely slowly. Got a lot going on what with my fiance and I planning to tie the knot on Friday and the preparations for that. But she's expressed interest in audio games before and how they work so maybe I'll see if we couldn't work together on some of them. She's pretty good with computers. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!
Probably just at the Twin Falls County Courthouse LOL. Well that's where the ceremony is. THen next year we were planning to have a little barbecue next summer. I'm not entirely sure about that though now that Maria's parents have shown that their daughter's wedding isn't important enough to ask for the day off from work. Yeah, that does sort of make me angry. Ah well, guess all I can really do is give her the best life I can give her and maybe see if she wouldn't like to colaborate with me on some audio game development. LOL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hey Bryan All the best my man. Years of happiness! I'd crash the party if I knew where. *lol* Ron - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hi Bryan, Best of luck. I hope the wedding goes well, and wish you the best of happiness. Cheers! On 10/3/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Cool. Not that I'm anywhere near that point yet as I've said, but I'm working on it, albeit extremely slowly. Got a lot going on what with my fiance and I planning to tie the knot on Friday and the preparations for that. But she's expressed interest in audio games before and how they work so maybe I'll see if we couldn't work together on some of them. She's pretty good with computers. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!
Hi Bryan That's a kick and I'm sory to hear they aren't more behind the two of you. It's not enough to say that's one bummer. As long as the two of you are ready and willing then it's promising. Ron - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Probably just at the Twin Falls County Courthouse LOL. Well that's where the ceremony is. THen next year we were planning to have a little barbecue next summer. I'm not entirely sure about that though now that Maria's parents have shown that their daughter's wedding isn't important enough to ask for the day off from work. Yeah, that does sort of make me angry. Ah well, guess all I can really do is give her the best life I can give her and maybe see if she wouldn't like to colaborate with me on some audio game development. LOL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hey Bryan All the best my man. Years of happiness! I'd crash the party if I knew where. *lol* Ron - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hi Bryan, Best of luck. I hope the wedding goes well, and wish you the best of happiness. Cheers! On 10/3/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Cool. Not that I'm anywhere near that point yet as I've said, but I'm working on it, albeit extremely slowly. Got a lot going on what with my fiance and I planning to tie the knot on Friday and the preparations for that. But she's expressed interest in audio games before and how they work so maybe I'll see if we couldn't work together on some of them. She's pretty good with computers. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!
Well the irony of the whole thing is that both of them have told Maria they approve of me. They just don't feel the occasion's important enough to warrant their attendance. At least my folks are going to be there and they adore Maria. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hi Bryan That's a kick and I'm sory to hear they aren't more behind the two of you. It's not enough to say that's one bummer. As long as the two of you are ready and willing then it's promising. Ron - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Probably just at the Twin Falls County Courthouse LOL. Well that's where the ceremony is. THen next year we were planning to have a little barbecue next summer. I'm not entirely sure about that though now that Maria's parents have shown that their daughter's wedding isn't important enough to ask for the day off from work. Yeah, that does sort of make me angry. Ah well, guess all I can really do is give her the best life I can give her and maybe see if she wouldn't like to colaborate with me on some audio game development. LOL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hey Bryan All the best my man. Years of happiness! I'd crash the party if I knew where. *lol* Ron - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hi Bryan, Best of luck. I hope the wedding goes well, and wish you the best of happiness. Cheers! On 10/3/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Cool. Not that I'm anywhere near that point yet as I've said, but I'm working on it, albeit extremely slowly. Got a lot going on what with my fiance and I planning to tie the knot on Friday and the preparations for that. But she's expressed interest in audio games before and how they work so maybe I'll see if we couldn't work together on some of them. She's pretty good with computers. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!
Hi Bryan Okay we're beginning to stray off topic here but I can't imagine parents thinking that way. Feel free off list if you'd like. Talk soon Ron - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Well the irony of the whole thing is that both of them have told Maria they approve of me. They just don't feel the occasion's important enough to warrant their attendance. At least my folks are going to be there and they adore Maria. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hi Bryan That's a kick and I'm sory to hear they aren't more behind the two of you. It's not enough to say that's one bummer. As long as the two of you are ready and willing then it's promising. Ron - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Probably just at the Twin Falls County Courthouse LOL. Well that's where the ceremony is. THen next year we were planning to have a little barbecue next summer. I'm not entirely sure about that though now that Maria's parents have shown that their daughter's wedding isn't important enough to ask for the day off from work. Yeah, that does sort of make me angry. Ah well, guess all I can really do is give her the best life I can give her and maybe see if she wouldn't like to colaborate with me on some audio game development. LOL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hey Bryan All the best my man. Years of happiness! I'd crash the party if I knew where. *lol* Ron - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hi Bryan, Best of luck. I hope the wedding goes well, and wish you the best of happiness. Cheers! On 10/3/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Cool. Not that I'm anywhere near that point yet as I've said, but I'm working on it, albeit extremely slowly. Got a lot going on what with my fiance and I planning to tie the knot on Friday and the preparations for that. But she's expressed interest in audio games before and how they work so maybe I'll see if we couldn't work together on some of them. She's pretty good with computers. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave
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The full installer with uncompressed sound is perfect. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 04 October 2010 02:31 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] (no subject) Hi everyone, Ok, it has come to my attention that some of you were upset or worried about the file size of the unofficial release of MOTA beta 14. I'm basically writing this to find out if some of you really want to have me compress those sounds down to something more managable to like 50 MB which will take a slight performance hit as well as some loss of audio quality or just have me upload the full release in the next couple of days using uncompress wav files. I can basically do either one here, but just want to know what the comunity wants in terms of installation size vs quality. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!
Hi That's too about her parents, but some people are like that I guess. Anyway, as for game sounds you might want to try a place called shockwave sound. I've gotten a lot of good sounds from them for a reasonable price. On 10/4/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Thanks. As I may have said it's just unfortunate that her own folks don't think it's important enough to ask for the day off from work. Their loss I suppose. But yeah, if I can find a decent sound effects vender where the prices won't totally break the bank I may see if she wouldn't be interested in working with me since she likes computer and video games and seems genuinely fascinated by how audio games would work. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!
Hi, Smile. Let's get back on topic. Thanks. On 10/4/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Well the irony of the whole thing is that both of them have told Maria they approve of me. They just don't feel the occasion's important enough to warrant their attendance. At least my folks are going to be there and they adore Maria. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!
Hmmm. I'll look into that. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hi That's too about her parents, but some people are like that I guess. Anyway, as for game sounds you might want to try a place called shockwave sound. I've gotten a lot of good sounds from them for a reasonable price. On 10/4/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Thanks. As I may have said it's just unfortunate that her own folks don't think it's important enough to ask for the day off from work. Their loss I suppose. But yeah, if I can find a decent sound effects vender where the prices won't totally break the bank I may see if she wouldn't be interested in working with me since she likes computer and video games and seems genuinely fascinated by how audio games would work. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi Jim, Smile. That's all? That's pretty small potatoes compared to the current release of Mysteries of the Ancients. Beta 14 is almost 350 MB fully installed and even compressed using Inno Setup it is around 170 MB. The Linux setup looks like it will be around 250 MB because tar doesn't appear to have that high of compression. I'll probably have to see if I can find a better Linux compression format like bz2 and see if I can shrink that 250 down to something a bit smaller. Cheers! On 10/4/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Phil, In my temporary spanker folder the 118 wave files, the 1 little text file, a tiny batch file and the spanker executable file add up to 2,401,704 bytes. When zipped they equal 1,703,313 bytes. And then making that zip file into a self extracting zip file makes it1,765,376 bytes. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi Thomas, I suggest bzip2, or apparently xz. gzip's compression ratios aren't all that great. Hope this helps, Zack. On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 06:53:28PM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Jim, Smile. That's all? That's pretty small potatoes compared to the current release of Mysteries of the Ancients. Beta 14 is almost 350 MB fully installed and even compressed using Inno Setup it is around 170 MB. The Linux setup looks like it will be around 250 MB because tar doesn't appear to have that high of compression. I'll probably have to see if I can find a better Linux compression format like bz2 and see if I can shrink that 250 down to something a bit smaller. Cheers! On 10/4/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Phil, In my temporary spanker folder the 118 wave files, the 1 little text file, a tiny batch file and the spanker executable file add up to 2,401,704 bytes. When zipped they equal 1,703,313 bytes. And then making that zip file into a self extracting zip file makes it1,765,376 bytes. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- If I love you, what business is it of yours? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Then again, if size isn't a problem for most people, why even zip it? If you don't, that's just one less installation step. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Thomas, I suggest bzip2, or apparently xz. gzip's compression ratios aren't all that great. Hope this helps, Zack. On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 06:53:28PM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Jim, Smile. That's all? That's pretty small potatoes compared to the current release of Mysteries of the Ancients. Beta 14 is almost 350 MB fully installed and even compressed using Inno Setup it is around 170 MB. The Linux setup looks like it will be around 250 MB because tar doesn't appear to have that high of compression. I'll probably have to see if I can find a better Linux compression format like bz2 and see if I can shrink that 250 down to something a bit smaller. Cheers! On 10/4/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Phil, In my temporary spanker folder the 118 wave files, the 1 little text file, a tiny batch file and the spanker executable file add up to 2,401,704 bytes. When zipped they equal 1,703,313 bytes. And then making that zip file into a self extracting zip file makes it1,765,376 bytes. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- If I love you, what business is it of yours? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
imo, the sounds uncompressed and compressed sound almost the same to me so I would say compress On 10/4/10, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Then again, if size isn't a problem for most people, why even zip it? If you don't, that's just one less installation step. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Thomas, I suggest bzip2, or apparently xz. gzip's compression ratios aren't all that great. Hope this helps, Zack. On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 06:53:28PM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Jim, Smile. That's all? That's pretty small potatoes compared to the current release of Mysteries of the Ancients. Beta 14 is almost 350 MB fully installed and even compressed using Inno Setup it is around 170 MB. The Linux setup looks like it will be around 250 MB because tar doesn't appear to have that high of compression. I'll probably have to see if I can find a better Linux compression format like bz2 and see if I can shrink that 250 down to something a bit smaller. Cheers! On 10/4/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Phil, In my temporary spanker folder the 118 wave files, the 1 little text file, a tiny batch file and the spanker executable file add up to 2,401,704 bytes. When zipped they equal 1,703,313 bytes. And then making that zip file into a self extracting zip file makes it1,765,376 bytes. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- If I love you, what business is it of yours? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi Charles, Well, one purpose of using any zip tool is simply to pack multipl files into one single archive that can be downloaded. If you are going to use an archive like zip, bz2, gz, whatever you might as well find the one with the best compression as well. It is not just the people downloading the file we have to worry about. I have to use hard drive sspace on the server to store my files and while I have a max account that space isn't exactly infinite. Plus I am given a certain amount of bandwidth per month and if I go over that limit I either have to suspend downloads for a few days until my bandwidth gets reset on the first of the next month or pay the extra bandwidth fees. So it still pays to shrink the files size down for the person hosting the files as well as giving the end users a quicker and smaller download. Smile. On 10/4/10, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Then again, if size isn't a problem for most people, why even zip it? If you don't, that's just one less installation step. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi Zack, Thanks for the suggestion. Next time I think I'll definitely try using bzip2 to compress the file. As you say gzip isn't very good. Unfortunately, I'm about 75% through uploading the Linux MOTA beta 14 file, and I'd hate to stop it, rezip the thing, and upload again after it has been going for nearly an hour or so. So next time I'll definitely experiment more with compression sizes and archive formats before defaulting to gzip. On 10/4/10, Zachary Kline zkline wrote: Hi Thomas, I suggest bzip2, or apparently xz. gzip's compression ratios aren't all that great. Hope this helps, Zack. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi Ryan, Actually, Inno Setup, the Windows setup program i use, has its own built-in compression which is pretty good. It cut the install down from close to 350 MB to around 170 MB which is fairly good. I'm afraid you can't get much better than that for compression. As for the Linux side I'm still looking for the best compression format. I used gzip this time, but found out its compression ratio isn't very good. I'm going to look at bz2 as well as a couple of other options and see if I can shave off some of the file ssize off the Linux install. Instead of 245 MB maybe knock it down to 225 MB or something like that. Every little bit helps I guess. Cheers! On 10/4/10, Ryan Chou rc4896...@gmail.com wrote: might I suggest a compressed zip file or something? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi, No worries. Everyone seams to be in favor of keeping the sounds etc uncompressed for maximum quality so that's what they are going to get. I've already built the setup packages for Windows and Linux and am busy trying to get the website ready for public release. I'll naturally let everyone know as soon as I'm really ready to go public with it. Smile. On 10/4/10, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote: Hi Thomas, I don't think you should compromise making the MOTA smaller. In today's world, if a person doesn't have a high speed internet connection then they will be missing out on plenty of things more than just large games, such as digital books on the BARD site and podcasts. You could recommend a download manager such as GetRight, www.getright.com That is what I ran when I was using a dial-up modem. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi Thomas, Wow...thoseare farely large download sizes, aren't they? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Ryan, Actually, Inno Setup, the Windows setup program i use, has its own built-in compression which is pretty good. It cut the install down from close to 350 MB to around 170 MB which is fairly good. I'm afraid you can't get much better than that for compression. As for the Linux side I'm still looking for the best compression format. I used gzip this time, but found out its compression ratio isn't very good. I'm going to look at bz2 as well as a couple of other options and see if I can shave off some of the file ssize off the Linux install. Instead of 245 MB maybe knock it down to 225 MB or something like that. Every little bit helps I guess. Cheers! On 10/4/10, Ryan Chou rc4896...@gmail.com wrote: might I suggest a compressed zip file or something? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi Thomas, Altouhg it seems that you have made up your mind, I shall put my 1 asnd a half cents into the conversation, and say that I saw no reduction of quality in your Ogg vorbus compression, and you might as well go for the smallest size possible. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Willem Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Phil. This all depends on which compression the installer uses, though multiple layers of compression rarely makes sense. I've done an experiment with zip and 7z (aka lzma2). Zip makes the file 90% its origional size, while lzma2 yields 80%. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Ryan, Sound files do not compress very much when zipped, and usually creating the install file does compress everything to as small of a download file size as possible. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 Released!
Hi everyone, I am happy to announce that Tomb Hunter Mysteries of the Ancients beta 14 is now officially uploaded and ready for download. This all new release is a major upgrade from beta 13 and earlier. What's New Beta 14 now uses our cross-platform engine Open G3D which uses a number of free and open source APIs such as OpenAL 1.1, SFML 1.6, libsndfile, and others instead of commercial APIs such as Microsoft DirectX. There is now an official Windows release and a Linux release for Debian based Linux operating systems. (May work on other distributions if all dependencies are met.) Uses uncompressed *.wav files rather than compressed *.ogg files for sounds and music. Fixed a number of bugs related to the new Open G3D engine. Created custom i386 SFML 1.6 deb packages for Ubuntu and Vinux distributions. Downloading the Game To download Mysteries of the Ancients uninstall any previous releases of the software and visit our products page http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/products.php to download either the Linux or Windows release. For the custom SFML packages visit http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/downloads/requirements/libsfml-1.6-i386.tar.gz and read the file guide.txt located in the Mysteries of the Ancients Docs directory for directions on installing SFML for Linux. Happy gaming! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi Hayden, Well, personally I do notice some reduction in quality. It is very slight, but it takes some of the pitch out of the sounds, and it isn't quite as sharp/clear as a *.wav file. I suppose the fact I am a musician, am use to listening to tone and pitch, something like that is more apparent to me than a lay person. At any rate it isn't just audio quality. I also decided to go with *.wav files for the simple fact if I use any type of compression weather it be ogg, wma, wav, or xwma, whatever your program has to decompress all those files during runtime, such as when loading a new level, and therefore it is slower in loading the game levels, loading voice messages, whatever. It isn't too noticable on a new duel core system, but on an older 1 GHZ system, i happen to have laying around, it took quite a long time to decompress those sounds in real time. On 10/4/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Although it seems that you have made up your mind, I shall put my 1 asnd a half cents into the conversation, and say that I saw no reduction of quality in your Ogg vorbus compression, and you might as well go for the smallest size possible. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
I hadn't thought of that at all. Good points. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Charles, Well, one purpose of using any zip tool is simply to pack multipl files into one single archive that can be downloaded. If you are going to use an archive like zip, bz2, gz, whatever you might as well find the one with the best compression as well. It is not just the people downloading the file we have to worry about. I have to use hard drive sspace on the server to store my files and while I have a max account that space isn't exactly infinite. Plus I am given a certain amount of bandwidth per month and if I go over that limit I either have to suspend downloads for a few days until my bandwidth gets reset on the first of the next month or pay the extra bandwidth fees. So it still pays to shrink the files size down for the person hosting the files as well as giving the end users a quicker and smaller download. Smile. On 10/4/10, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Then again, if size isn't a problem for most people, why even zip it? If you don't, that's just one less installation step. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mota download size
Hi, Well, yes and no. If we are comparing it to the average audio game size it would be quite big. However, as it has been pointed out before most mainstream games are extremely huge compared to Mysteries of the Ancients. I think Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness is something like 2 GB fully installed. The latest Tomb Raider game, Tomb Raider Underworld, is even bigger yet Star Wars Empire at War is also pretty huge. It is something like 4 GB fully installed. So MOTA isn't anywhere near those kinds of sizes.. On 10/4/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Wow...thoseare farely large download sizes, aren't they? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] freedom games
That happened to me once. Just restart the game and you'll be good to go. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] MOTA for Linux AMD64?
Hi Thomas, I was wondering if it might be possible to compile a version of your source code for AMD64-based Linux distributions? I tried to find a copy of your 32-bit sfml libraries at the URL you provided and had no luck. Perhaps you forgot to upload them? Best and thanks, Zack. -- If I love you, what business is it of yours? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 Released!
So I see you decided to keep beta 14, even if the beta was not officially released? How was it different than the broken release and the official release? You see, I thought it was fully released and i installed iand played it. For some reason, I got no blue screen, so I did not have to uninstall the game. Is this game in 3D? Alfredo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] unable to install mota to my linux
Hello Thomas and all, i am just trying to install mota to my ubuntu 10.4 but im not able to download the libsfml packages. When i try to download them via the apt-get i tells me cannot find and when i want to download them from usagames site it tells me 404 not found. So what may i do? Is there any repository which can i add to my ubuntu repositories, where can i get it? Thanks for your help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 Released!
good game tom. enemies are good, but you never know you are in range of an enemy until its in front of you, its fine to shoot but because the sounds don't pan swinging at them is a bit hard. also if you walk and try to say pick up things you need to stop before you do that. objects don't pan so its harder to know when to pick things up. the game still crashes on exit. At 02:26 p.m. 5/10/2010, you wrote: Hi everyone, I am happy to announce that Tomb Hunter Mysteries of the Ancients beta 14 is now officially uploaded and ready for download. This all new release is a major upgrade from beta 13 and earlier. What's New Beta 14 now uses our cross-platform engine Open G3D which uses a number of free and open source APIs such as OpenAL 1.1, SFML 1.6, libsndfile, and others instead of commercial APIs such as Microsoft DirectX. There is now an official Windows release and a Linux release for Debian based Linux operating systems. (May work on other distributions if all dependencies are met.) Uses uncompressed *.wav files rather than compressed *.ogg files for sounds and music. Fixed a number of bugs related to the new Open G3D engine. Created custom i386 SFML 1.6 deb packages for Ubuntu and Vinux distributions. Downloading the Game To download Mysteries of the Ancients uninstall any previous releases of the software and visit our products page http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/products.php to download either the Linux or Windows release. For the custom SFML packages visit http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/downloads/requirements/libsfml-1.6-i386.tar.gz and read the file guide.txt located in the Mysteries of the Ancients Docs directory for directions on installing SFML for Linux. Happy gaming! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Thomas, I managed to get my hands on 32-bit SFML libraries and so far have been enjoying the MOTA experience under Linux. There are a few hiccups though. The sound description menu doesn't seem to fully work. Some sounds, consistently, are not playing. Specifically, the ledge sound isn't playing, at least not in the menu. Nor does potion. Similar problems impact the game itself. I notice errors in the terminal from which I ran the game complaining about being unable to load sound buffers. Note that I confirmed the sounds exist, they're just not playing for some reason. Other than this annoyance, the game itself works great. Best and thanks for such a wonderful beta! Yours, Zack. -- If I love you, what business is it of yours? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
