Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Sounds In Outlook Express

2008-10-28 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi, I don't know if this is going to a member, or straight to the 
list, but I am searching for what type of scanner to get for Open 
Book that would work with Jaws.  Any suggestions? Karen and Harpo



- Original Message -
From: Andrew Godwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:31:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Sounds In Outlook Express



Changing the new mail notification wav file in Outlook Express:


1.  Tap the Windows key to open the start menu, down aero to 

(Settings), and

then tap enter.
2.  Down Arrow to (Control Panel), and then tap Enter.Note, if 

your start
menu is set to XP view, the control panel will be located in the 

start menu

list view.
3.  Tap S until you hear (Sounds and Audio Devices) and then tap 

enter.
4.  Hold down control and Tap tab one time to move to the (Sounds 

page).
5.  Tap the tab key 3 times or until you hear (tree view Windows 

open).

6.  Tap N until you hear (New Mail notification).
7.  Tap the Tab key three times to move to the (Brows button) and 

then tap

enter.
8.  Hold down Shift and tap tab once and you will be placed in 

the (Media

Folder list view).
9.  Use the up or down arrow keys to locate the desired WAV file, 

If the
desired file is not located in this folder, you must navigate to 

the
location of the desired wav file.  Note you can use the backspace 

key to move
up a level wile in this list view.  Tapping the backspace key One 

time will
place you in the Windows folder, two times will place you in the 

C: drive,
three times will place you in my computer and fore times will 

place you on

the desktop.
10.  When you have located and selected the desired wav file, Tab 

to (okay)

and tap enter.
11.  Tab around to the OK button again and then tap enter.  You 

now can use

alt-f4 to close out the Control Panel.
12.  To see if the desired wav file plays when receiving a new 

email, Open
Outlook Express and send a new email message to yourself and then 

tap F5 to
receive it.  Upon receiving the message, you should hear the 

desired wav file

play



- Original Message -
From: Donnie Parrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: JAWS-Users jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:47 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Email Sounds In Outlook Express



Some friends of mine are wanting me to help them set up some 

sounds for
incoming email into their Outlook Express.  I know how to do 

this in
Outlook, but I haven't got a clue on how it is done in O E.  

Could someone

please lend me some info?



Thanks,
Donnie




~~~
My name is Donnie Parrett, and I approve of this message



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Re: [JAWS-Users] reply

2008-11-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Just a quick hi to Rick Justice, can you call me? Left mail for 
you.  Thanks.  Karen and Harpo



- Original Message -
From: Rick Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 06:46:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reply



Hi Mostafa,
If you read the help topics for the FS Reader, you should find 

the

information you are looking for.
HTH,
Richard Q.  Justice-website owner
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message -
From: mostafa almahdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reply




hay
the keystroke that you have  mentioned , i already do it!!.
and i've mentioned that in my previous message.
if you read it carefully.
mostafa almahdy.
--
BEST REGARD
IT'S ALWAYS HOPE THAT GIVES MEANING TO LIFE





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Re: [JAWS-Users] converting cassettes to cd

2008-11-03 Thread Karen Bailey
Just dropping by to say hi David.  Nice to have spoken to you 
with Rick the other night.  Karen and Harpo



- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:10:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting cassettes to cd


In the future please read the guidelines before such things.  I'm 

speaking to
the entire membership at this time.  They are available right 

from the home

page.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message -
From: WESLEY BURDEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting cassettes to cd




I apologize.





-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 

David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 4:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting cassettes to cd


The guidelines clearly state that neither goods or services will 

be bought
or sold on this list.  In plane English there will be no further 

discussion

about this on here at all.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message -
From: WESLEY BURDEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:23 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] converting cassettes to cd




Hello everyone:
I just wanted to let everyone know on the list here that if you 

are in
need of having cassette tapes needing to be converted over to cd 

i
have the equipment to do it.  It is a cassette converter that 

hooks up
to your computer through your usb port.  If you are interested 

or know
people that have old cassette tapes laying around and are 

wondering

how to convert them to audio cd please let me know.



wesley from new jersey




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[JAWS-Users] I know, you all haven't heard two words from me in a long time:

2008-11-09 Thread Karen Bailey
The latest is, someone is helping with lessons for me, and I 
thank them very much.  And, thought you'd all want to know what 
was the problem really.  Seems that Del had put too many programs 
on my computer was part of my trouble plus my lack of knowledge 
generally.  With so many programs, about thirty, it was shutting 
Jaws speech down.  I had my lawyer's trustee who knew a good 
technical guy, hired, and came and had to do reloading of all 
programs, and deletion of those which I could not use as a blind 
person.  Then reloaded Jaws, and everything seems to be working 
now wow! What a battle! Have been going through this stuff since 
purchase of the machine.  Karen and Harpo unsure how this could 
have been avoided, in the first place but glad things work now.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with a Dell Net Book

2008-11-10 Thread Karen Bailey
Hey, that's a good question.  They're starting to advertise these 
around here a lot.  Karen



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From: Rick Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:41:09 -0500
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws with a Dell Net Book



Hi List,
Has anyone tried Jaws on a Dell NetBook computer?
Thanks in advance,
Richard Q.  Justice-website owner
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[JAWS-Users] Was I crazy to think you can just plug in a microphone and earphone set and it would work right away? not with computers, everything has to be difficult:

2008-11-19 Thread Karen Bailey
I bought myself a microphone and earphone combination from 
radioshack, plugged it in and get some strange dialogue whatever 
it is from Jaws something about audio or something what should I 
do to get these to work: It says something about Blackjack.  
Karen and Harpo sorry to be so stupid about this stuff.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Was I crazy to think you can just plug in amicrophone and

2008-11-19 Thread Karen Bailey
I had to call someone on the list.  First, I didn't have the mic 
plugged into the right jack, good start right? Then discovered 
with someone on this list that the buttons on the dialogue for 
the recorder aren't marked, guess is some graphics thing.  He 
will be helping me with this tonight.  Thanks for the reply.  I 
wish things were simpler but I guess that's too much to ask.  
Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:22:38 -0300
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Was I crazy to think you can just plug 

in amicrophone and


Hi Karen,
Can you virtualize the window when the dialog appears and copy 
what it says, so we can see what it's actually asking for? 
Thanks.

Hugs,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Was I crazy to think you can justpluginamicrophoneand

2008-11-19 Thread Karen Bailey
Oh yes: he stands on my chair, and puts his paws on my 
braillenote keys! And of course he must comment on everything I 
say with either a sigh or groan.  Karen



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From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:19:16 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Was I crazy to think you can 

justpluginamicrophoneand

So does Harpo write the actual messages after you tell him of 

course what to
say? Yes computers can be stressful on a person myself included I 

might add.


David Ferrin
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Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karen 

Bailey

Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Was I crazy to think you can
justpluginamicrophone and




Yes, David I did.  I am always surprised that you cannot just
plug and play this stuff.  It's quite discouraging really.  Plug
in, and nope: we found some dialogue that needs labeling: seems
there's some kind of graphics going on.  There's one thing about
it, now that I'm older, I just speak my mind! So that's it for
the colorful dialogue.  Karen and Harpo



- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:35:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Was I crazy to think you can just

pluginamicrophone and



Well I'll say this for you Karen, your subject lines are often

descriptive

and normally quite colorful.  I gather you called Rick on this

matter

already.
David Ferrin
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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Was I crazy to think you can just plug
inamicrophone and




I had to call someone on the list.  First, I didn't have the mic

plugged

into the right jack, good start right? Then discovered with

someone on this

list that the buttons on the dialogue for the recorder aren't

marked, guess

is some graphics thing.  He will be helping me with this tonight.

Thanks

for the reply.  I wish things were simpler but I guess that's too

much to

ask.  Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:22:38 -0300
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Was I crazy to think you can just plug

in amicrophone and



Hi Karen,
Can you virtualize the window when the dialog appears and copy

what it says, so we can see what it's actually asking for?

Thanks.

Hugs,
Vicky



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[JAWS-Users] my questions: about Jaws and the computer:

2008-11-19 Thread Karen Bailey
Hello: a quick question.  David or Rick can decide whether this 
should be discussed here or not, but my question is this.  Think 
back about when you first learned Jaws and the computer, and I 
want to ask this question: Was it worth it? Do you presently use 
it for your jobs? And what about the daily struggle to understand 
how to do everything? Was it worth the trouble? Is it always a 
learning thing even now for those who have known this technology 
for a while? Do you ever level off where you know most of it, and 
it's not so much of a battle? These are the questions I have been 
asking myself since November when I got all this equipment, and 
am trying so hard to learn everything, but there's always 
something coming up I don't know how to do.  Do you think this 
has increased blind people's ability at all to get employment? 
That was the reason I Thought I should do all that.  Thanks.  You 
can respond off-list if this is not appropriate question for 
here.  Written by a large golden  male guinea pig, named Quincy,  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] my questions: about Jaws and the computer:

2008-11-19 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you for telling me this is worth the trouble, as I am still 
struggling.  Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:15:54 +0100
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] my questions: about Jaws and the 

computer:


hi karen,
for me it has definately been worth it.  I don't know what i 

would do without
a computer and the internet.  mind you i do not even use a pc for 

work, just
for fun really.  but the load of information and leisure and 

making things
easier in daily life fior me is a blessing.  worth every hour 

spend to learn
jaws and all that goes with it.i can order food, i can do my 

banking, i can
order groceries eaasily, i can play games, read books, listen to 

music and
talk to people all over the world via messenger and email, all 

with just a
few keystrokes.  to me internet and computers is one of the best 

things ever

happened to blind folks or any person with a disability.
regards
chrissy



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Hello: a quick question.  David or Rick can decide whether this 

should be
discussed here or not, but my question is this.  Think back 

about when you
first learned Jaws and the computer, and I want to ask this 

question: Was

it worth it?




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Re: [JAWS-Users] my questions: about Jaws and the computer:

2008-11-19 Thread Karen Bailey
Perhaps Harpo can find a job since our economy is not too good.  
I hope I will learn enough at some point to make myself useful.  
Thanks.  Harpo's standing for a stretch too much typing for him.  
He hunts and pecks at the keys!


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2008-11-19 Thread Karen Bailey
I was thinking of going through the print book although that may 
take some time, maybe I would remember it better.  Karen



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computer:

There is nearly always help for JAWS-related matter within JAWS 

itself.  The
thing is to know how to access that help when you need it.  there 

is
keyboard help with insert+1, and insert+h for JAWS hot keys; 

and insert+F1
for program help.  There are hundreds of commands in JAWS and 

Windows.  It
is sophisticated, and is simple only if you can make it so.  

Remember your
JAWS training materials.  Read them, off-line (not on the 

computer) if you

can.



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Hello: a quick question.  David or Rick can decide whether this
should be discussed here or not, but my question is this.  Think
back about when you first learned Jaws and the computer, and I
want to ask this question: Was it worth it? Do you presently use
it for your jobs? And what about the daily struggle to understand
how to do everything? Was it worth the trouble? Is it always a
learning thing even now for those who have known this technology
for a while? Do you ever level off where you know most of it, and
it's not so much of a battle? These are the questions I have been
asking myself since November when I got all this equipment, and
am trying so hard to learn everything, but there's always
something coming up I don't know how to do.  Do you think this
has increased blind people's ability at all to get employment?
That was the reason I Thought I should do all that.  Thanks.  You
can respond off-list if this is not appropriate question for
here.  Written by a large golden  male guinea pig, named Quincy,
at the keys directed by Harpo the Seeing Eye dog, because their
mistress just accidentally spilled very hot mustard over her
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Re: [JAWS-Users] my questions: about Jaws and the computer:

2008-11-19 Thread Karen Bailey
Well, at least I can then say that I have learned something new, 
although not working, and can read some books, and listen to some 
music, do the mail: etc.  I thought this was the case, because 
saw an unemployment rate for the blind of 70 to 80 percent and 
often say would the sighted population put up with that? Why do 
we as blind people put up with it? Karen



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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] my questions: about Jaws and the 

computer:

hello well speaking from my experience I have not gotten a job 

doing
anything on the computer or off of it so the idea of jaws helping 

people try
to find work is kind of a joke at least it has been my 

experience.  when you
think that 99.9 percent of people 1 have never herd of jaws or 

screen
readers or adaptive technology and 2 people still wont give blind 

people a
brake where jobs are concerned then I really don't think this is 

going to
change any time soon and also another point 3 most adaptive 

technology like
jaws etc is to expensive for most blind people to be able to pay 

for on
there own and so because  it is so expensive it is really not 

worth spending
that much money on.  I mean sure I have jaws and I use it every 

day but to
just get jaws and all this adaptive equipment just for the hope 

of trying to
find a job is kind of pointless because the un employment rates 

are so high
and amounst blind people it is really high and I don't see that 

changing any
time soon.  well I will get off my sope box now.  from Mich 

Verrier.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] my questions: about Jaws and the computer:

2008-11-19 Thread Karen Bailey
OKAY, so you do come to some sort of leveling off after awhile, 
but still learn things as they come out with more.  Curiosity: 
what do you do at your job? Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:52:23 -0500
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computer:


Hi Karen,
Yes, yes, yes, no, no.
Just kidding.
JAWS is always a learning experience, because it is such a 

powerful program

with so much potential.
The more you need it, the more you need to know.
Eventually you do learn the keys you need, but JAWS is always 

evolving, and

your needs may evolve as well.
I use it at home and at work, and I need different applications 

at the

different sites.
For example, I use Lotus Notes at work, but not at home.
Take your time, and know that we all have dealt with that 

overwhelming

feeling.




Sunny Day
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O God, help me to link my littleness to Your greatness,
my faintheartedness to Your boldness,
my fear to Your faith.
Then nothing can stop me.




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Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:01 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] my questions: about Jaws and the computer:



Hello: a quick question.  David or Rick can decide whether this 

should be
discussed here or not, but my question is this.  Think back 

about when you
first learned Jaws and the computer, and I want to ask this 

question: Was
it worth it? Do you presently use it for your jobs? And what 

about the
daily struggle to understand how to do everything? Was it worth 

the
trouble? Is it always a learning thing even now for those who 

have known
this technology for a while? Do you ever level off where you 

know most of
it, and it's not so much of a battle? These are the questions I 

have been
asking myself since November when I got all this equipment, and 

am trying
so hard to learn everything, but there's always something coming 

up I
don't know how to do.  Do you think this has increased blind 

people's
ability at all to get employment? That was the reason I Thought 

I should
do all that.  Thanks.  You can respond off-list if this is not 

appropriate
question for here.  Written by a large golden  male guinea pig, 

named
Quincy,  at the keys directed by Harpo the Seeing Eye dog, 

because their
mistress just accidentally spilled very hot mustard over her 

Chinese food

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Re: [JAWS-Users] my questions: about Jaws and the computer:

2008-11-19 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you for this answer, is a clarification for me.  I just was 
hoping I was doing the right thing.  Have obsticles anyway 
besides blindness I'm over 40.  So, I don't know about getting 
work, but I do know I want to try, and if Jaws and the computer 
helps that process, I still want to try.  Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:55:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] my questions: about Jaws and the 

computer:

This conversation may be better suited for the Blind Like Me 

list, but I

will say my peace.


Yes, having a screen reader is exceptionally important in my view 

of the
world.  Aside from the fact that it gives me the ability to 

manage my own
finances, do my own product research, purchase products, window 

shop, read
news, play games, email friends and family, and access other 

devices which
I then use to read books, navigate, scan written materials, and 

listen to

music.


Aside from all that, it has allowed me to have a well paying job, 

which
has, in turn, allowed me to purchase a home, purchase items more 

than just

necessities, and travel the world.


Personally, my own feeling is that in this day and age, without 

access to
a computer, your chance of employment is just slightly above 

none.  With a
computer, I believe your chances of employment are not great, but 

nowhere
near as bad as that 70% number that gets thrown around all the 

time.  That
number includes many people who are not employable, meaning 

people who
lose their sight late in life and in jobs that either cannot be 

adapted,
(bus driver), or that would take years of retraining to re-enter 

that

position.


Most of the blind people I know that are employed, are employed 

in the
technology field and use computers as part of their work.  Many 

others are
employed in jobs where using a computer is simply a tool, 

although, an

indispensable tool.


Without screen readers and accessible computers, everything would 

be so
much more difficult, or at least so much more limited, that I 

cannot even

imagine it.


So, yes, I believe that the work put in to learn to use a screen 

reader is
well worth it.  No, it is not easy.  No, it is not fun.  yes, it 

is
frustrating as hell, but the alternative is pretty much 

unthinkable to

me.



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Blue skies.
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[JAWS-Users] a thank you to you David for tolerating my questions: and an explanation to you,

2008-11-19 Thread Karen Bailey
David: Thanks for tolerating my questions.  I know maybe not 
quite for this list.  Didn't know where else to ask.  For your 
own information personally, I don't know if Rick told you, I am 
very isolated here, and have very little contact with anyone, 
including other blind people.  Thanks again.  Karen and Harpo


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[JAWS-Users] I'm not sure how to explain my dilemma: but here goes:

2008-11-21 Thread Karen Bailey
I have been receiving mp3 files from a correspondent in outlook 
express, and before viewing on my computer, would usually 
download the mail to my braillenote.  Yesterday, I Accidentally 
viewed the regular message body of the mail which is just text 
and deleted that.  Then noticed there was an attachment: the mp3 
file:: oops.  Now that attachment is there in outlook, and not 
sure how to listen to this.  Any suggestions on how to listen, or 
move that file to a more convenient spot for listening? Karen and 
Harpo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I'm not sure how to explain my dilemma:but heregoes:

2008-11-22 Thread Karen Bailey

I'm not sure about this.  Perhaps it is.


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dilemma:but heregoes:

Karen, It wouldn't still be in your deleted items folder would 

it?

Cheers
Alex



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but

heregoes:



UNFORTUNATELY, I had made the mistake of deleting the body of the
e-mail.  Oops.  Now what? Thanks.  Karen



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but heregoes:



If you still have the email with the attachment in Outlook, just

right click

on the attachment and save it wherever you want.  I am not sure

what a

Braillenote is; however, you should be able to play mp3 files

with a program

such as Windows Media Player.




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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:24 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I'm not sure how to explain my dilemma: but

here goes:




I have been receiving mp3 files from a correspondent in outlook
express, and before viewing on my computer, would usually
download the mail to my braillenote.  Yesterday, I Accidentally
viewed the regular message body of the mail which is just text
and deleted that.  Then noticed there was an attachment: the mp3
file:: oops.  Now that attachment is there in outlook, and not
sure how to listen to this.  Any suggestions on how to listen,

or

move that file to a more convenient spot for listening? Karen

and

Harpo



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Re: [JAWS-Users] I'm not sure how to explain my dilemma:but heregoes:

2008-11-22 Thread Karen Bailey
My instructor came along, phone me today, and we straightened it 
all out.  Was able to get that mail into a folder, then listen.  
Thanks for responding.  Karen



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dilemma:but heregoes:

Karen, It wouldn't still be in your deleted items folder would 

it?

Cheers
Alex



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but

heregoes:



UNFORTUNATELY, I had made the mistake of deleting the body of the
e-mail.  Oops.  Now what? Thanks.  Karen



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If you still have the email with the attachment in Outlook, just

right click

on the attachment and save it wherever you want.  I am not sure

what a

Braillenote is; however, you should be able to play mp3 files

with a program

such as Windows Media Player.




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Subject: [JAWS-Users] I'm not sure how to explain my dilemma: but

here goes:




I have been receiving mp3 files from a correspondent in outlook
express, and before viewing on my computer, would usually
download the mail to my braillenote.  Yesterday, I Accidentally
viewed the regular message body of the mail which is just text
and deleted that.  Then noticed there was an attachment: the mp3
file:: oops.  Now that attachment is there in outlook, and not
sure how to listen to this.  Any suggestions on how to listen,

or

move that file to a more convenient spot for listening? Karen

and

Harpo



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[JAWS-Users] Hello, just an introduction to you because I just joined this list:

2008-09-15 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi I am a 54 year-old lady who has been out of computer for 
almost twenty years.  My problem now is no instruction with Jaws 
in my area.  So much of what goes by here and in front of me I do 
not know what it is, or what it does, or what it's for.  Do you 
all know of any good beginning tutorials online for windows, and 
Jaws? Something not too hard to get through without going through 
many pages looking for it? I am currently using Jaws 9 because I 
don't know how to install ten.  A guy I know did it for me.  I am 
also using a braillenote to communicate with you because don't 
complesely understand Outlook Express also need help with that 
too.  I am also asking if you have advice about what printers and 
scanners may be good for use with Jaws as I am in great need of 
both, but have no idea what models might work.  I tried a 
combination printer from Del, but would not work with Jaws.  
Everything locked up.  The guy I was with had also no knowledge 
of Jaws.  It was a combination printer scanner, but would not 
work.  Sold to a friend.  Any information would be appreciated.  
I did have a sighted instructor for a few months, but in the end, 
learned from other professionals in the area that she has been 
telling blind people here that she knows jaws, and she doesn't, 
finally admitted it to me.  So many have been taken in by her.  
Fortunately, for us she is just volunteer at local library.  So 
we paid nothing thank you.  But this left me in great confusion 
because everything she gave me was in print, and not organized, 
and I have no readers.  Any help you all can give will be greatly 
appreciated.  Everyone have a good week.  Will be looking forward 
to hearing from you.  Karen and Seeing Eye dog Harpo

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[JAWS-Users] an introduction from me I just got on this list thought I would introduce myself:

2008-09-15 Thread Karen Bailey
Hello everyone.  I am new to this list.  I hope to learn more 
because I am a new computer user after not having one for twenty 
years.  Unfortunately, there are no instructors in my area so I 
am often lost.  Do you all know of a good place to find beginning 
tutorials for Jaws with Windows? I also would like to know your 
experiences with printers and scanners which are Jaws friendly 
since I need both.  Just presently have Jaws 9 with a Del 
computer.  Got software for Jaws ten but do not know how to 
install it.  What I don't know about computers right now could 
fill encyclopedias! Any help will be greatly appreciated.  I have 
one small braille guide which came with jaws, but sometimes don't 
know which is Windows command or Jaws, and had very bad 
instructor who eventually admitted she knows nothing about jaws 
but bills herself as an instructor in my area.  I was told this 
by other professionals in my area after the fact after I'd tried 
instruction with her.  She has done this to several blind people 
around here, and I didn't know it ahead of time.  She also gave 
anything she found to me in print and I have no readers.  Not 
much help.  So friends I remain lost much of the time.  Is it 
okay to experiment with Jaws pressing keys to find out what to 
do? I am afraid will mess up my ability to be online change 
configurations, or something since I haven't the slightest idea 
what I'm doing.  Any suggestions for beginning tutorials for Jaws 
or Windows online will be apprciated.  Have basic knowledge of 
the keyboard.  Thanks for listening.  Much of what goes by here, 
I don't even know what some things are for.  Karen and Harpo a 
Seeing Eye Dog.  I'm 54 years old folks, trying to learn all over 
again.  Am using a braillenote to communicate with you, not my 
Del because I'm not good with outlook express, also had no 
instruction in its use.  Need help with that too.  Everything.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from me I just got on thislistthought I would introduce myself:

2008-09-15 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi I don't have anybody who comes here that knows much about 
computers.  That was why I thought I should ask for help.  Karen 
and Harpo

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Karen, your story sounds like mine.  We all started somewhere and 
everyone
on this list tries to help so don't be reluctant to ask us 
anything.  I had
some sighted help to read the screen and help with software to 
start so do
you have someone nearby who could pop in from time to time?  I 
think we have
some trainers on this list and maybe they will join in right now.
marilyn (and I'm older than you are but I figured it out.  So can 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello, just an introduction to you because I just joined this list:

2008-09-15 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi, I have to get a printer quite soon because I'm looking to 
print out letters looking for a job.  I have windows xp, with a 
laptop from Del.  Have the Open Book program but no scanner yet.  
I look at starting menu, get confused about what each thing is 
for.  Karen and Harpo

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello,just an introduction to you 
because I just joined this list:

Karen, are you using windows xp or vista operating system?  Is it 
a laptop
or pc?  If you have jaws 9 on your computer, stick with it until 
the version
10 comes out in final form.
  If you don't immediately need a printer or scanner, maybe you 
could hold
off on getting into those so you don't bombard yourself with a 
lot more
information than you need right now.If you have ocr reading 
software such as
Kurzweil 1000 or Open Book, scanner choice can be requested from 
the vender.
I recently bought an hp deskjet 6940printer that works great with 
my xp
system.  It was about $109.00 from amazon.com and was available, 
also, at
Best Buy.
Maybe it would work for you to tell us what you know how to do up 
to the
point that you don't know how to proceed.  Then we can chime in.  
marilyn


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Re: [JAWS-Users] new computer user

2008-09-16 Thread Karen Bailey
The escape is my best friend and I hope I don't mess anything up 
that counts.  Karen and Harpo thanks for hinffts.

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] new computer user

Hi Karen, I can remember how totally intimidated i was by jaws 
and the
computer when i first got mine.  I was 52 and had no idea what i 
was doing.
If you go into the jaws window and hit alt+h, arrow down and 
you'll  find
training and keystrokes with jaws.  that's a good starting 
place.

I think the thing that made me feel most comfortable, since i was 
afraid i'd
break the monster, was knowing that i can go into help, or the 
control
panel, or any program, play around all i want and, as long as i 
hit escape
rather than accept, yes, or enter, i wouldn't change anything
permanently.  Good luck.  Karen near chicago


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Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from me I just gotonthislistthought I would introduce myself:

2008-09-16 Thread Karen Bailey
I will take either way.  I'm better with braille, but 
unfortunately have no funds for expenditures on books or manuals.  
Part of the trouble.  Karen and Harpo

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Hi Karenk,

How do you prefer to learn, i.  e.  tapes, Braille, etc?  That 
would help
us with recommendations for resources.

Andy


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onthislistthought I would introduce myself:

Hi I don't have anybody who comes here that knows much about 
computers.
That was why I thought I should ask for help.  Karen and Harpo

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Karen, your story sounds like mine.  We all started somewhere and
everyone
on this list tries to help so don't be reluctant to ask us
anything.  I had
some sighted help to read the screen and help with software to
start so do
you have someone nearby who could pop in from time to time?  I
think we have
some trainers on this list and maybe they will join in right now.
marilyn (and I'm older than you are but I figured it out.  So can
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello, just an introduction to you because I just joined this list:

2008-09-16 Thread Karen Bailey
Right now I have a lot of printing to do, going to be sending out 
many letters looking for work.  So, I wonder how much printing 
can one get done with the laser? Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:28:51 -0700
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hi karen,

FS does not recommend the all in one printer, scanner, fax 
combos.  It
would be best to get a dedicated scanner.  The Epson models seem 
to work
well with Open Book.  As for printers, they are pretty much plug 
and
play.  If you do not do much printing, I would recommend a 
monochrome
laser printer.  They can be found for less than $100.  The 
problem with
ink jet printers is that if you don't print much, the ink dries 
out, and
you may have to replace a cartridge even though you hardly used 
it.

Andy


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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:37 PM
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because I
just joined this list:

Hi, I have to get a printer quite soon because I'm looking to 
print out
letters looking for a job.  I have windows xp, with a laptop from 
Del.
Have the Open Book program but no scanner yet.
I look at starting menu, get confused about what each thing is 
for.
Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:11:05 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello,just an introduction to you
because I just joined this list:

Karen, are you using windows xp or vista operating system?  Is it
a laptop
or pc?  If you have jaws 9 on your computer, stick with it until
the version
10 comes out in final form.
  If you don't immediately need a printer or scanner, maybe you
could hold
off on getting into those so you don't bombard yourself with a
lot more
information than you need right now.If you have ocr reading
software such as
Kurzweil 1000 or Open Book, scanner choice can be requested from
the vender.
I recently bought an hp deskjet 6940printer that works great with
my xp
system.  It was about $109.00 from amazon.com and was available,
also, at
Best Buy.
Maybe it would work for you to tell us what you know how to do up
to the
point that you don't know how to proceed.  Then we can chime in.
marilyn


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Re: [JAWS-Users] new computer user

2008-09-16 Thread Karen Bailey
I guess then, I should be brave and start experimenting more? 
Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:34:45 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new computer user

Hi Karen,

When i first started with computers, a friend told me that there 
is
nothing that you can type that will cause your computer to blow 
up.
And, with Windows, there are usually several opportunities to 
undo
anything that you do.

Andy


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The escape is my best friend and I hope I don't mess anything up 
that
counts.  Karen and Harpo thanks for hinffts.

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16 Sep

2008 10:14:02 -0500
Subject: [JAWS-Users] new computer user

Hi Karen, I can remember how totally intimidated i was by jaws
and the
computer when i first got mine.  I was 52 and had no idea what i
was doing.
If you go into the jaws window and hit alt+h, arrow down and
you'll  find
training and keystrokes with jaws.  that's a good starting
place.

I think the thing that made me feel most comfortable, since i was
afraid i'd
break the monster, was knowing that i can go into help, or the
control
panel, or any program, play around all i want and, as long as i
hit escape
rather than accept, yes, or enter, i wouldn't change anything
permanently.  Good luck.  Karen near chicago


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Re: [JAWS-Users] new computer user

2008-09-16 Thread Karen Bailey
That's good.  Maybe I will manage without messing up too much.  
Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:38:06 +0200
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Hi karen,
and remember most times before something can be altered by 
mistake that can
really mess up things, windows will most times double check 
andask if you
are really sure that you want to do this.
that lots of times is a good hint to go no or escape:)
regards
chrissy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello, just an introduction to you because I just joined this list:

2008-09-16 Thread Karen Bailey
That is a good deal.  Perhaps this is what I want because got 
inkjet before this, and had to spend sooo much on cartridges.  
Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:42:05 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello,just an introduction to you 
because I just joined this list:

Laser printers are much faster than ink jet, and their cartridges 
last a
lot longer, even though they are more expensive than ink jet 
cartridges.
I bought an HP monochrome laser printer for about $100, and it 
comes
with a toner cartridge installed.  I've had it for over 2 years, 
and am
still using the original cartridge, even though I don't print a 
lot.

Andy


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Karen
Bailey
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello,just an introduction to you 
because I
just joined this list:

Right now I have a lot of printing to do, going to be sending out 
many
letters looking for work.  So, I wonder how much printing can one 
get
done with the laser? Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:28:51 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello,just an introduction to you
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hi karen,

FS does not recommend the all in one printer, scanner, fax
combos.  It
would be best to get a dedicated scanner.  The Epson models seem
to work
well with Open Book.  As for printers, they are pretty much plug
and
play.  If you do not do much printing, I would recommend a
monochrome
laser printer.  They can be found for less than $100.  The
problem with
ink jet printers is that if you don't print much, the ink dries
out, and
you may have to replace a cartridge even though you hardly used
it.

Andy


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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:37 PM
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because I
just joined this list:

Hi, I have to get a printer quite soon because I'm looking to
print out
letters looking for a job.  I have windows xp, with a laptop from
Del.
Have the Open Book program but no scanner yet.
I look at starting menu, get confused about what each thing is
for.
Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:11:05 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello,just an introduction to you
because I just joined this list:

Karen, are you using windows xp or vista operating system?  Is it
a laptop
or pc?  If you have jaws 9 on your computer, stick with it until
the version
10 comes out in final form.
  If you don't immediately need a printer or scanner, maybe you
could hold
off on getting into those so you don't bombard yourself with a
lot more
information than you need right now.If you have ocr reading
software such as
Kurzweil 1000 or Open Book, scanner choice can be requested from
the vender.
I recently bought an hp deskjet 6940printer that works great with
my xp
system.  It was about $109.00 from amazon.com and was available,
also, at
Best Buy.
Maybe it would work for you to tell us what you know how to do up
to the
point that you don't know how to proceed.  Then we can chime in.
marilyn


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Re: [JAWS-Users] new computer user

2008-09-16 Thread Karen Bailey
After I get done: cleaning my house getting ready for a sale, 
during this time my escape will be play with the computer and 
finding out more.  Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:43:02 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new computer user

Yes!  the ESCAPE key and CANCEL button are your best friends.

Andy


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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new computer user

Hi karen,
and remember most times before something can be altered by 
mistake that
can really mess up things, windows will most times double check 
andask
if you are really sure that you want to do this.
that lots of times is a good hint to go no or escape:) regards 
chrissy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello, just an introduction to you because I just joined this list:

2008-09-16 Thread Karen Bailey
Wowweee! That's an awfully high temperature! Thanks for telling 
me because I would never know that! Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:59:07 +0100
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Karen,

A word of advice.  if your using a laser printer, and the paper's 
a little
warm after you remove it, don't worry.  the laser inside reaches 
a
temperature of around 400 degrees centigrade when printing, 
that's why
there's a fan inside the printer, so that the paper doesn't burn, 
and it
cools the toma as it reaches the paper.

Aiden
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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello,just an introduction to you 
because I just
joined this list:


 Right now I have a lot of printing to do, going to be sending 
out
 many letters looking for work.  So, I wonder how much printing
 can one get done with the laser? Karen and Harpo

 - Original Message -
From: Baracco, Andrew W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:28:51 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello,just an introduction to you
 because I just joined this list:

hi karen,

FS does not recommend the all in one printer, scanner, fax
 combos.  It
would be best to get a dedicated scanner.  The Epson models seem
 to work
well with Open Book.  As for printers, they are pretty much plug
 and
play.  If you do not do much printing, I would recommend a
 monochrome
laser printer.  They can be found for less than $100.  The
 problem with
ink jet printers is that if you don't print much, the ink dries
 out, and
you may have to replace a cartridge even though you hardly used
 it.

Andy


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Karen
Bailey
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello,just an introduction to you
 because I
just joined this list:

Hi, I have to get a printer quite soon because I'm looking to
 print out
letters looking for a job.  I have windows xp, with a laptop from
 Del.
Have the Open Book program but no scanner yet.
I look at starting menu, get confused about what each thing is
 for.
Karen and Harpo

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From: Marilyn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:11:05 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hello,just an introduction to you
because I just joined this list:

Karen, are you using windows xp or vista operating system?  Is it
a laptop
or pc?  If you have jaws 9 on your computer, stick with it until
the version
10 comes out in final form.
  If you don't immediately need a printer or scanner, maybe you
could hold
off on getting into those so you don't bombard yourself with a
lot more
information than you need right now.If you have ocr reading
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Kurzweil 1000 or Open Book, scanner choice can be requested from
the vender.
I recently bought an hp deskjet 6940printer that works great with
my xp
system.  It was about $109.00 from amazon.com and was available,
also, at
Best Buy.
Maybe it would work for you to tell us what you know how to do up
to the
point that you don't know how to proceed.  Then we can chime in.
marilyn


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Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from me Ijust gotonthislistthought I would introduce myself:

2008-09-16 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi, my relations with the state agency, in the past: rather 
tenuous! I used to work for them, may again unless there's a 
hiring freeze.  Know what services are, but for some reason we 
have not done well negotiating.  A confusing senario.  Karen and 
Harpo

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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:09:44 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from me Ijust
gotonthislistthought I would introduce myself:

Karen,

Have you been in touch with your state agency for the blind?  
Their purpose
is to assist you with preparing you for employment, as well as 
connecting
you with sources of job listings.  So if you need computer 
training, they
should be providing it to you.  If they can't find a trainer, 
then they
should pay for training materials for you to train yourself.  
Another option
is to send you away for training.

Check out the course offerings from the Hadley School.

Annette


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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:32 PM
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gotonthislistthought I would introduce myself:

I will take either way.  I'm better with braille, but 
unfortunately have no
funds for expenditures on books or manuals.
Part of the trouble.  Karen and Harpo

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Hi Karenk,

How do you prefer to learn, i.  e.  tapes, Braille, etc?  That
would help
us with recommendations for resources.

Andy


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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:33 PM
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onthislistthought I would introduce myself:

Hi I don't have anybody who comes here that knows much about
computers.
That was why I thought I should ask for help.  Karen and Harpo

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Karen, your story sounds like mine.  We all started somewhere and
everyone
on this list tries to help so don't be reluctant to ask us
anything.  I had
some sighted help to read the screen and help with software to
start so do
you have someone nearby who could pop in from time to time?  I
think we have
some trainers on this list and maybe they will join in right now.
marilyn (and I'm older than you are but I figured it out.  So can
you.)


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Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from meIjust gotonthislistthoughtI would introduce myself:

2008-09-16 Thread Karen Bailey
I don't have cash to do Carroll Center any more, and heard from 
clients they won't do the internet with you and some other 
things.  I used to work at the agency, was a socialworker.  Sent 
myself through Carroll, but none of the things they were teaching 
pertained to my job.  Interesting, and hate how they don't do one 
on one training you have to wait for the group to get things 
done, too slow for me.  Karen and Harpo


 - Original Message -
From: Baracco, Andrew W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:08:09 -0700
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gotonthislistthoughtI would introduce myself:

hi Karen,

Then you undoubtedly know about the Caroll Center.  It has the 
best
computer training program in the country, but you do have to pay 
to go
there.  If you need the skills for work, the Commission should 
send you
there.  I used to know the head of the Commission, and one of its 
best
counselors, but, unfortunately, neither of them work there any 
more.
But you should get them to send you there.

Andy


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I live in Massachusetts.  Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:49:43 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from me Ijust
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Good advice.  In which state do you live?  marilyn

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Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from meIjust gotonthislistthoughtI would introduce myself:

2008-09-16 Thread Karen Bailey
That's much appreciated and you can send if you'd like.  Karen 
and Harpo.

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From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:49:44 -0600
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from meIjust 
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Hi Karen,

I have a windows tutorial that is about as basic as dirt.  If you 
can handle
attachments and you are using windows-XP, I can send it to you 
privately.
Just send me your Email address to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TNX

Larry

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Hi, my relations with the state agency, in the past: rather
tenuous! I used to work for them, may again unless there's a
hiring freeze.  Know what services are, but for some reason we
have not done well negotiating.  A confusing senario.  Karen and
Harpo

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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:09:44 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from me Ijust
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Karen,

Have you been in touch with your state agency for the blind?
Their purpose
is to assist you with preparing you for employment, as well as
connecting
you with sources of job listings.  So if you need computer
training, they
should be providing it to you.  If they can't find a trainer,
then they
should pay for training materials for you to train yourself.
Another option
is to send you away for training.

Check out the course offerings from the Hadley School.

Annette


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gotonthislistthought I would introduce myself:

I will take either way.  I'm better with braille, but
unfortunately have no
funds for expenditures on books or manuals.
Part of the trouble.  Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:25:13 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from me I just
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Hi Karenk,

How do you prefer to learn, i.  e.  tapes, Braille, etc?  That
would help
us with recommendations for resources.

Andy


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Bailey
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:33 PM
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onthislistthought I would introduce myself:

Hi I don't have anybody who comes here that knows much about
computers.
That was why I thought I should ask for help.  Karen and Harpo

 - Original Message -
From: Marilyn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:55:50 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from me I just got on
thislistthought I would introduce myself:

Karen, your story sounds like mine.  We all started somewhere and
everyone
on this list tries to help so don't be reluctant to ask us
anything.  I had
some sighted help to read the screen and help with software to
start so do
you have someone nearby who could pop in from time to time?  I
think we have
some trainers on this list and maybe they will join in right now.
marilyn (and I'm older than you are but I figured it out.  So can
you.)


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2008-09-17 Thread Karen Bailey
hmm never heard of your city I guess.  Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:00:59 +0100
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Sunderland.

Aiden
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 That is neat.  Where abouts in England would I know the city if 
I
 heard it? I used to listen to London Bbc shortwave years ago,
 until they took the radio frequency away from us in North
 America.  Karen and Harpo

 - Original Message -
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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:15:13 +0100
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction frommeIjust
 gotonthislistthoughtIwould introduce myself:

Well, you can always ask questions on the list.  you'll me able
 to get people
all over the world giving you tips on here, take me for example,
 I live in
England, and here I am send ing you a message right now, ah, the
 beauty of
the internet.

Aiden
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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from meIjust
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I don't have cash to do Carroll Center any more, and heard from
 clients they won't do the internet with you and some other
 things.  I used to work at the agency, was a socialworker.  Sent
 myself through Carroll, but none of the things they were
 teaching
 pertained to my job.  Interesting, and hate how they don't do
 one
 on one training you have to wait for the group to get things
 done, too slow for me.  Karen and Harpo


 - Original Message -
From: Baracco, Andrew W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:08:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] an introduction from meIjust
 gotonthislistthoughtI would introduce myself:

hi Karen,

Then you undoubtedly know about the Caroll Center.  It has the
 best
computer training program in the country, but you do have to pay
 to go
there.  If you need the skills for work, the Commission should
 send you
there.  I used to know the head of the Commission, and one of its
 best
counselors, but, unfortunately, neither of them work there any
 more.
But you should get them to send you there.

Andy


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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:38 PM
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gotonthislistthoughtI would introduce myself:

I live in Massachusetts.  Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:49:43 -0500
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Good advice.  In which state do you live?  marilyn

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[JAWS-Users] hello: have general question. Does anyone here know if there are printers better than others to work with Jaws: Am beginning shopping, wonder what to look for:

2008-09-17 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi, is there anything to look for or be avoided when shopping for 
a printer to work with Jaws? Karen and Harpo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] hello: have general question. Does anyone hereknow ifthere are printers better than others to work withJaws: Ambeginning shopping, wonder what to look for:

2008-09-17 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you.  Looking for specific models, and was suggested hp 
1320 laser.  Hoping for the best because I'm getting through hp 
dealer repair who may come up with one around that price you 
mentioned, but is used: I don't know which model to get.  Have to 
be wondering which are also compatible with braillenote, which 
1320 is according to a list from Humanware.  Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:29:37 -0600
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hello: have general question.  Does 
anyone hereknow ifthere are printers better than others to work 
withJaws: Ambeginning shopping, wonder what to look for:

Karen,

My mother who is sighted just purchased an HP-laser from Staples 
for less
than $200 and It seems to do a really nice job.
This is a true laser printer not an ink-jet so you won't need to 
worry about
ink inconsistency or clogged nozzles.
The installation disk is JFW accessible.  I checked it out on my 
laptop
before I turned her loose with it in case I had to bail her out.

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here know
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Ambeginning
shopping, wonder what to look for:


Hi, is there anything to look for or be avoided when shopping for
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Re: [JAWS-Users] hello: have general question. Does anyone hereknow ifthere are printers better than others to work withJaws: Ambeginning shopping, wonder what to look for:

2008-09-17 Thread Karen Bailey
It was suggested to me about 1320 hp printer, which may also be 
compatible with braillenote, and Jaws.  I'M hoping for the best.  
getting through hp repair dealer, may be able to get me for a 
discount.  Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:34:15 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hello: have general question.  Does 
anyone hereknow ifthere are printers better than others to work 
withJaws: Ambeginning shopping, wonder what to look for:

Hi Karen and Harpo,
 Personally, I have had good success with HP products.  They 
tend to have
JAWS friendly installation programs.  The HP 4180 all in one 
comes with a
flat bed scanner also.  the OCR software that comes with it can 
be made to
work with JAWS.  It has been a while since I bought a stand alone 
printer.
So, I don't have any recommendations there.

God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, 
Oregon
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[JAWS-Users] my appologies, for Barbara have lost your mail, because not know outlook very well.

2008-09-20 Thread Karen Bailey
My appologies here, but so new to this that I keep doing things I 
don't know what I'm doing and my appologies to Barbara please try 
again, and I will answer with braillenote instead of outlook so I 
don't lose your mail.  Karen and Harpo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 3.0.2 is out, information for JAWS 7.10 users!

2008-09-24 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you for the explanation.  Sounds interesting.

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Date sent: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:51:37 +0100
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 3.0.2 is out,information for 
JAWS 7.10 users!

It is a Web browser, an alternative to Internet Explorer.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 3.0.2 is out,information for 
JAWS 7.10
users!


Hi can you explain for me what this program does? Sorry I don't
know what half of anything is when viewing comments up here.  New
to computing.  Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:52:42 +0200
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 3.0.2 is out, information for JAWS
7.10 users!

Hi all!

Firefox 3.0.2 update has just been released, and this brings some
exciting news for users of both JAWS 7.10 and 10.0 public beta.
More
information on my blog:
http://www.marcozehe.de/2008/09/24/firefox-302-has-been-released-
lots-of-accessibility-improvements/

Enjoy!

Marco


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[JAWS-Users] have a weird thing going on, perhaps someone help me off list. See below: thank you.

2008-09-25 Thread Karen Bailey
I have purchased a printer: an hp 1320.  My printer guy came, and 
the printer works, but tried installing the driver: cd rom.  In 
the middle of install when the test page comes out, has error 
messages due to some program called scrubber.  On the page on 
screen says it has to shut down.  Cannot get installation to 
continue.  Anyone know what to do? Thanks ahead of time.  Need a 
hint: because it will cost me $85 an hour to get someone here to 
try to correct this.  Thanks ahead of time.  Karen and Harpo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Keystroke for clearing clipboard

2008-09-26 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi, just wanted to say I like the thing on your mail about life 
happened after you make plans.  So much has gone that way for me: 
unexpected changes.  Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:42:01 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Keystroke for clearing clipboard

All right, the  Parrett scores for the good guys.  You have shown 
enormous
improvement since I started this list just so you know.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.
- Original Message -
From: Donnie Parrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Keystroke for clearing clipboard


 It's something I learned in a JAWS training class with Debbie 
Kelly.



 Contact Me At:
 Donnie Parrett
 1956 Asa Flat Road
 Annville, Kentucky  40402
 Home Phone:  606-364-3321
 Church Phone:  606-364-PRAY
 Skype Name:  Donnie1261
 Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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David Ferrin
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:27 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Keystroke for clearing clipboard


 I am impressed to say the least my friend.  Where did you learn 
that little
 trick? Also there is a program on the server called clip clear 
that does
 the
 same thing, but before it came out your idea was the preferred 
method.
 David Ferrin
 Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.
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 Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Keystroke for clearing clipboard


 To clear the clipboard
 Go to the run box.  Window Key + R.
 Type in clipbrd and press enter.
 Alt + e for edit
 arrow down to delete and enter
 Alt y for yes to clear the clipboard.

 I hope this helps.



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 Barbara
 Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:44 PM
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 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Keystroke for clearing clipboard


 Hi All,

 Is there a keystroke for clearing the clipboard?  If there is, I 
have
 been
 overlooking it.  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks 
much.

 Mike

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Re: [JAWS-Users] have a weird thing going on, perhaps someone help me off list. See below: thank you.

2008-09-26 Thread Karen Bailey
If I do, it's interfering with the loading of the disk for the 
printer.  Karen

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Date sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:19:38 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] have a weird thing going on,perhaps 
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Karen, do you have some sort of c cleaner or scrubber going?  
Maybe reg
scrub or etc.?  marilyn


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Re: [JAWS-Users] note to the membership

2008-09-29 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi David: There's also an issue with Comcast with e-mail today.  
I just called about an hour and this was what I was told.  
They're working on it.  Karen and Harpo go

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Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:17:34 -0400
Subject: [JAWS-Users] note to the membership

Just a note to all that I am aware of list messages  taking an 
extra long time to be delivered.  This is on the server side and 
as such beyond my control.  My understanding is that the matter 
is being checked out and hopefully be resolved in a few days.  
During this time there might be an interruption in service for a 
few hours before things return  to normal, most likely on 
Wednesday from what I hear.  If that happens don't panic because 
it will be only temporary.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem needs solving really soon:

2008-09-29 Thread Karen Bailey
Comcast turned off my Macafee now getting messages have virus.  
What is a good virus program to use with Jaws I don't have to pay 
for? Any assist welcomed.  Thank you.  Karen and Harpo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem needssolvingreally soon:

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
Because I am not on that computer, using braillenote which has no 
viruses.  Karen

 - Original Message -
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:20:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem 
needssolvingreally soon:

Why are you posting?

If you have virus?
  - Original Message -
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  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:01 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem needs 
solvingreally soon:


  Comcast turned off my Macafee now getting messages have virus.
  What is a good virus program to use with Jaws I don't have to 
pay
  for? Any assist welcomed.  Thank you.  Karen and Harpo

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-
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  No virus found in this incoming message.
  Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
  Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1697 - Release Date: 
9/29/2008 7:40 AM
-- next part --

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1697 - Release Date: 
9/29/2008 7:40 AM
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Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem needssolvingreally soon:

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you.  I had a guy come yesterday, and he installed avg for 
me.  Hoping all goes well with that today.  He is coming back to 
check things through.  Karen

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Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:08:49 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem 
needssolvingreally soon:

Hi
 You may want to try the free version of AVG or AVAST.  I am 
sorry that I
do not have the URL's here.

God bless,
Mark
-- Currently in Pendleton, Eastern Oregon Regional At Pendleton, 
Oregon
Clear,
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem needs
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 What is a good virus program to use with Jaws I don't have to 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem needssolvingreally soon:

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi we installed avg yesterday.  Thanks.  Karen

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:32:11 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem 
needssolvingreally soon:

Karen, look down the page to where it says visit the jaws users 
page at
and enter on the link.  Go to the list of antivirus programs that 
work with
jaws and that's all anyone can tell you.  marilyn


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Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem needs solvingreally soon:

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you.  I had a guy here yesterday, paid and asked him to 
download this and this morning he is coming back to check things 
through.  I don't know enough about computerp to do it myself.  
Karen one

 - Original Message -
From: Zaheer Sheikh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:47:28 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem 
needs solvingreally soon:

AVG anti virus is a free antivirus program.  You can download it 
from
the following link:

http://tjcs.myhosting247.com/Programs.php

Hope this helps.

Zaheer Sheikh

On 9/29/08, Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Comcast turned off my Macafee now getting messages have virus.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
Oh I wish I knew more about computers now.  Please, what is sp3? 
Karen and Harpo

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From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:08:03 +0100
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3

Yes, install it.  No JAWS problems will or should result.
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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] SP3


Hi all, need an opinion as to whether I should install that SP3 
from
microsoft that I keep getting a notice to do, but hesitant as 
wouldn't want
to have problems with jaws.  I still have jaws 7 and Win XP home.  
Thanks for
your input.  Barbara
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Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problemneedssolvingreally soon:

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you, besides I'm using a non-virus braillenote to send to 
the list anyhow.  My Del is presently being worked on by a techy.  
Karen and Harpo

 - Original Message -
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:51:01 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate 
problemneedssolvingreally soon:

Viruses do not transfer over this list, I've seen to that minor 
detail.
David Ferrin
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem
needssolvingreally soon:


 Why are you posting?

 If you have virus?
  - Original Message -
  From: Karen Bailey
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:01 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem needs
 solvingreally soon:


  Comcast turned off my Macafee now getting messages have virus.
  What is a good virus program to use with Jaws I don't have to 
pay
  for? Any assist welcomed.  Thank you.  Karen and Harpo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] What version of skipe works with jaws 8?

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi I have a good idea what skype is, but what are scripts.  See 
so much on this list I know not what it is.  Karen

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:44:20 +0100
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What version of skipe works with jaws 
8?

The latest Skype, 3.8, should work fine.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:09 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] What version of skipe works with jaws 8?


 Hi list members, i'd like to know what version of skype works 
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 I would appreciate any information that you may have.  Thank 
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[JAWS-Users] hello everyone need advice:

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
I know this doesn't apply to Jaws directly, but I need advice 
have noone else to ask.  I keep getting this message from Comcast 
about my computer not being protected, so yesterday, I hired 
someone to install avg.  I just got the message again this 
morning, from the support center.  Tried to send message back to 
tell them I had installed the avg.  Will this do me any good, or 
is this message computer generated? They have not cut off my 
e-mail, but almost every morning must ask for a refresh to send 
out mail.  What could be going on? Going to ask tech guy about 
this too.  Karen and Harpo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have veryimmediateproblemneedssolvingreally soon:

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
excellent! Karen

 - Original Message -
From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:47:39 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have 
veryimmediateproblemneedssolvingreally soon:

This is good to know, but like I said viruses just do not make it 
on here if
my minimal understanding of the mailman program is correct.  Also 
the server
does a virus scan before allowing any messages to pass to the 
list.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very
immediateproblemneedssolvingreally soon:


 Thank you, besides I'm using a non-virus braillenote to send to
 the list anyhow.  My Del is presently being worked on by a 
techy.
 Karen and Harpo

 - Original Message -
From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:51:01 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate
 problemneedssolvingreally soon:

Viruses do not transfer over this list, I've seen to that minor
 detail.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message -
From: Devona Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem
needssolvingreally soon:


 Why are you posting?

 If you have virus?
  - Original Message -
  From: Karen Bailey
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:01 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] hello I have very immediate problem needs
 solvingreally soon:


  Comcast turned off my Macafee now getting messages have virus.
  What is a good virus program to use with Jaws I don't have to
 pay
  for? Any assist welcomed.  Thank you.  Karen and Harpo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
thank you.  I'm so far behind on being a computer buff or geek! 
Karen

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:38:39 +0100
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3

SP means service pack, so the 3 means the third service pack.

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3


 Oh I wish I knew more about computers now.  Please, what is sp3?
 Karen and Harpo

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From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:08:03 +0100
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3

Yes, install it.  No JAWS problems will or should result.
- Original Message -
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] SP3


Hi all, need an opinion as to whether I should install that SP3
 from
microsoft that I keep getting a notice to do, but hesitant as
 wouldn't want
to have problems with jaws.  I still have jaws 7 and Win XP home.
 Thanks for
your input.  Barbara
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Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you.  I believe mine's turned on as when computer comes on 
it takes quite a while to start up, get to the windows is ready 
Karen

 - Original Message -
From: aiden gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:09:14 +0100
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3

Karren,

SP3 is a major security update for windows xp.  it contains all 
updates since
service pack 2 was released.  if you have automatic updates 
turned on, it
may've already been installed for you automatically.

Aiden
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3


 Oh I wish I knew more about computers now.  Please, what is sp3?
 Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:08:03 +0100
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3

Yes, install it.  No JAWS problems will or should result.
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] SP3


Hi all, need an opinion as to whether I should install that SP3
 from
microsoft that I keep getting a notice to do, but hesitant as
 wouldn't want
to have problems with jaws.  I still have jaws 7 and Win XP home.
 Thanks for
your input.  Barbara
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[JAWS-Users] if anyone here has not heard from me after sending, my provider says:

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
Will not send: delivery status notification failed permanently.  
So, thank you to anyone that has not heard from me, appreciate 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3

2008-09-30 Thread Karen Bailey
thank you.

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Date sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:34:28 +0100
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3

Windows XP Service Pack 3.  It is a big update to Windows XP.

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3


Oh I wish I knew more about computers now.  Please, what is sp3?
Karen and Harpo

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Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:08:03 +0100
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] SP3

Yes, install it.  No JAWS problems will or should result.
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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] SP3


Hi all, need an opinion as to whether I should install that SP3
from
microsoft that I keep getting a notice to do, but hesitant as
wouldn't want
to have problems with jaws.  I still have jaws 7 and Win XP home.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] if anyone here has not heard from me after sending, my provider says:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
thank you.  yup, that's good, but someone tried to contact me, 
and I got that message.  Cannot return theirs.  Karen



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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:10:09 +1000
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if anyone here has not heard from me 

after sending,my provider says:


Karen, your message came through to the list
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:52 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] if anyone here has not heard from me after 

sending,my

provider says:




Will not send: delivery status notification failed permanently.
So, thank you to anyone that has not heard from me, appreciate
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--
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.
Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1701 - Release Date: 

30/09/2008

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[JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hired a technician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list 
box, now I cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  
Computer is set to do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just 
stuck in this list box cannot get to the internet listed on start 
menu.  Have tried arrows, tabs enter anything.  Please tell me 
what to do to get back to my start menu again.  Karen thanks.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program 
runs? Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I 

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the 

escape key
to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the 

vast
majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it 

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
I tried the control escape but it does nothing just sits there.  
cannot get to the start menu.  Karen



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had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the 

escape key
to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the 

vast
majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it 

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
I did that, and it would not close the list box.  could pess 
windows key but it won't go to the start menu.  Somehow got back 
there, but now with the virus program probably running right now, 
cannot get to the internet.  Press i for internet, and nothing 
happens.  Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:07:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I 

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


press alt f4



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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had 

hired

atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list 

box, now I
cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  Computer 

is set to
do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just stuck in this list 

box cannot
get to the internet listed on start menu.  Have tried arrows, 

tabs enter
anything.  Please tell me what to do to get back to my start 

menu again.

Karen thanks.



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[JAWS-Users] my present dilemma: you can contact me off list with suggestion. Thank you.

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
I cannot seem to do anything right now.  YOU can contact me 
off-list if you'd like to help with the problem.  I'll thank you 
ahead of time.  I'm new Jaws user, so it's hard knowing what to 
do.  Do not know all commands to get myself out of trouble.  
Never had training much because am isolated here on Cape Cod no 
services here.  Thanks again.  Karen


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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi did not try alt tab did not know about that.  But got to the 
start menu finally, but will not work.  press i and nothing 
happens for internet.  Thing is probably running the virus 
program now.  Would that make a difference whether I can access 
anything? Thought the virus thing ran in background so you could 
work.  but cannot get things to work.  Am used to turning on 
computer, press windows key, get start menu, then on to what I 
want.  Now at start menu then this message just came up avg and 
now cannot do a thing.  Karen



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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when 

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


did you try alt tab? or alt f4?



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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



I tried the control escape but it does nothing just sits there.  

cannot get

to the start menu.  Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
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Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
I would not know how to change these settings for the virus 
program.  He did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary 
to have it running that long? And, not sure what you mean by 
running one program at a time.  In other words: could I get to 
internet through start menu at all? Got to that displaying then 
it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.  I wish I knew more 
about these things, and sometimes want to give up.  Karen Not 
sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but 
getting very frustrated having trouble for months and months with 
different things.



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when 

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs 

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to 

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



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I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program 

runs? Karen


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Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey

I will try this, and let you know.


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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:17:27 -0500
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Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


did you do windows key and the letter M?
This puts you on your desktop and from there you can press the 

letter I for

your internet..



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I did that, and it would not close the list box.  could pess 

windows key
but it won't go to the start menu.  Somehow got back there, but 

now with
the virus program probably running right now, cannot get to the 

internet.

Press i for internet, and nothing happens.  Karen



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had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



press alt f4



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hired

atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list

box, now I

cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  Computer

is set to

do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just stuck in this list

box cannot

get to the internet listed on start menu.  Have tried arrows,

tabs enter

anything.  Please tell me what to do to get back to my start

menu again.

Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
yay! It seems to work.  I did what you said.  press and get to 
the desktop now at start menu.  Wonder if this list box will come 
up again after the virus scan? I have no idea how he got there: 
said something about hybernate mode, when tabbing my name next 
tab, the name again and 3 programs not sure what this was.  but 
seem to be out of it now.  Thank you.  Got to a site on internet.  
Good.  Seem to be in business, but will find out for certain 
tomorrow morning.  Karen thanks again.  Sorry, I'm just so new at 
it, and no instruction available for my area so can use all the 
help I can get.



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From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:17:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when 

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


did you do windows key and the letter M?
This puts you on your desktop and from there you can press the 

letter I for

your internet..



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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



I did that, and it would not close the list box.  could pess 

windows key
but it won't go to the start menu.  Somehow got back there, but 

now with
the virus program probably running right now, cannot get to the 

internet.

Press i for internet, and nothing happens.  Karen



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From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:07:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



press alt f4



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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had

hired

atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list

box, now I

cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  Computer

is set to

do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just stuck in this list

box cannot

get to the internet listed on start menu.  Have tried arrows,

tabs enter

anything.  Please tell me what to do to get back to my start

menu again.

Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi, how do you highlight stuff? Karen Thanks for instructions.  
Must study desktop to see what is currently listed.  Was 
initially taught by a sighted person who did not know Jaws just 
go to start menu.  So much of my education now so messed up.  
Karen



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causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:


yes you can do other things why AVG is doing it's thang..
I don't access my programs that way, I go to my desktop and press 

the first
letter of that program..O/outlook express, I/internet explorer 

and so

forth...
If your programs aren't on your desktop, then you would have to 

open them
from your start menu.  But you can put a shortcut icon on your 

desktop at any

time if you like.
All you do is press your start windows key and the letter P and 

up arrow to
the program you want to put a shortcut on your desktop, don't 

open it just

make sure your cursor is highlighting it.
Then press the applications key usually located on the right side 

of the
keyboard between the control key and windows key or on some 

keyboards the

alt key.
After you press that key down arrow to you find it to read place 

icon or
might say shortcut on your desktop and then press enter and it 

will be there

the next time you go to your desktop.



Patricia
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Hi did not try alt tab did not know about that.  But got to the 

start menu
finally, but will not work.  press i and nothing happens for 

internet.
Thing is probably running the virus program now.  Would that 

make a
difference whether I can access anything? Thought the virus 

thing ran in
background so you could work.  but cannot get things to work.  

Am used to
turning on computer, press windows key, get start menu, then on 

to what I
want.  Now at start menu then this message just came up avg and 

now cannot

do a thing.  Karen



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Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



did you try alt tab? or alt f4?



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I tried the control escape but it does nothing just sits there.

cannot get

to the start menu.  Karen



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Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you.  Oops why does this thing keep saying leaving menus? 
Probably doing scan now.  Not sure where it is right now.  Also, 
thank you for instruction on f 11 systems tray.  How do you know 
how large your hard disk is.  Cannot remember what I ordered when 
I did that.  Had initially explained to Del that I would be 
running speech, but not sure how large this thing is.  Is there a 
way to ask what size it is? Karen



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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem 

causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

it will run awhile if it's the first time you have installed AVG? 

Also
depending on the size of your hard drive.  I have a 200/GB hard 

drive and AVG
runs approx.  1 hour and few minutes each day at 8:00a.m.  to 

know if it's
doing it's thang, Press the Insert key*jaws key* and f11, this 

opens your
system's tray and if you see in the list...complete test that is 

AVG doing

it's scan of your computer.



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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



I would not know how to change these settings for the virus 

program.  He
did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary to have it 

running
that long? And, not sure what you mean by running one program at 

a time.
In other words: could I get to internet through start menu at 

all? Got to
that displaying then it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.  

I wish I
knew more about these things, and sometimes want to give up.  

Karen Not
sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but 

getting
very frustrated having trouble for months and months with 

different things.


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From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program

runs? Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
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Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hired atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
It says when I am in this list box, my name, tab my name and 3 
programs; tab: then hybernate



- Original Message -
From: Carlene Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:46:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I 

had hired atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

What list box are you in?  What does it say exactly, or can you 

tell?  Sometimes
JAWS needs a fresh view of the screen so if you hold down insert 

and hit escape,
JAWS should say screen refreshed, or screen updated.  There might 

be something
going on that JAWS needs a refreshed screen to see.  AVG should 

run a scan
sometime between 10 and 4, but it shouldn't take 6 hours.  Alt 

tab away from
that window and then try to get to start if you haven't tried 

that already.  If
that doesn't work, perhaps you can load your internet program 

from the desktop
by hitting the windows start key and the letter m at the same 

time.  then you
might be able to arrow around and find your internet program or 

hit the first
letter of your program until you find it, then hit enter as 

always.  Hope that

helps.



On 01 Oct 2008 21:56:58 -0400, you wrote:



He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list
box, now I cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.
Computer is set to do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just
stuck in this list box cannot get to the internet listed on start
menu.  Have tried arrows, tabs enter anything.  Please tell me
what to do to get back to my start menu again.  Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had hired atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Hi I did some of this, but now the thing says leaving menus, and 
am not sure where it is.  Will be checking it tomorrow morning, 
as is getting very late here.  But appreceaate any help I can get 
because no instructors in this region.  Thank you for helping me.  
Why does this thing now say: leaving menus when I have finally 
gotten to the start menu? Virus may be running now.  Tech guy has 
it set for six hours! Not sure how to get time less.  But need 
someone to walk me through it so I won't mess up too much.  
Thanks again.  Karen



- Original Message -
From: Carlene Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:46:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I 

had hired atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

What list box are you in?  What does it say exactly, or can you 

tell?  Sometimes
JAWS needs a fresh view of the screen so if you hold down insert 

and hit escape,
JAWS should say screen refreshed, or screen updated.  There might 

be something
going on that JAWS needs a refreshed screen to see.  AVG should 

run a scan
sometime between 10 and 4, but it shouldn't take 6 hours.  Alt 

tab away from
that window and then try to get to start if you haven't tried 

that already.  If
that doesn't work, perhaps you can load your internet program 

from the desktop
by hitting the windows start key and the letter m at the same 

time.  then you
might be able to arrow around and find your internet program or 

hit the first
letter of your program until you find it, then hit enter as 

always.  Hope that

helps.



On 01 Oct 2008 21:56:58 -0400, you wrote:



He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list
box, now I cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.
Computer is set to do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just
stuck in this list box cannot get to the internet listed on start
menu.  Have tried arrows, tabs enter anything.  Please tell me
what to do to get back to my start menu again.  Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Can I ask you how you learned all this? Did you have instruction 
someplace? Some people going to rehab but cannot do that right 
now.  Looking for work, myself, and have duties pertaining to my 
mother in nursing home.  Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:49:45 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem 

causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

The alt-tab lets you go from one open application to another, so 

if you had
your email client open*outlook express*, and then decided to open 

internet
explorer you could go to your desktop and open that up and then 

say you
heard the sound you had new emails come into your inbox, you 

could press the
alt-tab to switch back to that program and read the emails and 

then press
alt-tab again to go back to the web page you were doing before 

you went back

to the emails.


While I was writing you this message, I am downloading something 

too, so I
alt tab to check how much longer it has, and then I alt tab back 

to this

email smiles



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yay! It seems to work.  I did what you said.  press and get to 

the desktop
now at start menu.  Wonder if this list box will come up again 

after the
virus scan? I have no idea how he got there: said something 

about
hybernate mode, when tabbing my name next tab, the name again 

and 3
programs not sure what this was.  but seem to be out of it now.  

Thank
you.  Got to a site on internet.  Good.  Seem to be in business, 

but will
find out for certain tomorrow morning.  Karen thanks again.  

Sorry, I'm
just so new at it, and no instruction available for my area so 

can use all

the help I can get.



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:17:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



did you do windows key and the letter M?
This puts you on your desktop and from there you can press the

letter I for

your internet..



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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
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I did that, and it would not close the list box.  could pess

windows key

but it won't go to the start menu.  Somehow got back there, but

now with

the virus program probably running right now, cannot get to the

internet.

Press i for internet, and nothing happens.  Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:07:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



press alt f4



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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I had

hired

atechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




He went to install a virus program: avg and left me in a list

box, now I

cannot get to the start menu by pressing windows key.  Computer

is set to

do virus run from 10-4 a.  m.  So I'm just stuck in this list

box cannot

get to the internet listed on start menu.  Have tried arrows,

tabs enter

anything.  Please tell me what to do to get back to my start

menu again.

Karen thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothingabout Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
I saw the close button at one point, but did not know if I should 
hit that or not.  Would it still do scans if I hit that? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:54:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with 
aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows 
nothingabout Jaws:


You can go to the system's tray, and arrow to the complete test 

and enter on

that.
Then you can up/down arrow to show scanning progress and enter on 

it.  Now
you have to use your jaws cursor to read the precentage of how 

much AVG has
scanned.  Mine usually says somewhere in the neighborhood of 

93,000
files/folders so if it says less than that I know it's still 

doing it's

thing.
If you don't feel comfortable in doing this, then just do nothing 

it will
close it's self when it's done or might give you a close button 

where you

press spacebar or alt C to close that screen..
- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a
problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing 

about Jaws:


Thank you.  Oops why does this thing keep saying leaving menus? 

Probably
doing scan now.  Not sure where it is right now.  Also, thank 

you for
instruction on f 11 systems tray.  How do you know how large 

your hard
disk is.  Cannot remember what I ordered when I did that.  Had 

initially
explained to Del that I would be running speech, but not sure 

how large

this thing is.  Is there a way to ask what size it is? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:32:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem
causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about 

Jaws:


it will run awhile if it's the first time you have installed AVG?

Also

depending on the size of your hard drive.  I have a 200/GB hard

drive and AVG

runs approx.  1 hour and few minutes each day at 8:00a.m.  to

know if it's

doing it's thang, Press the Insert key*jaws key* and f11, this

opens your

system's tray and if you see in the list...complete test that is

AVG doing

it's scan of your computer.



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I would not know how to change these settings for the virus

program.  He

did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary to have it

running

that long? And, not sure what you mean by running one program at

a time.

In other words: could I get to internet through start menu at

all? Got to

that displaying then it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.

I wish I

knew more about these things, and sometimes want to give up.

Karen Not

sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but

getting

very frustrated having trouble for months and months with

different things.



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program

runs? Karen



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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:24:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I

had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothingabout Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Oh boy! Can I get myself in trouble! Interesting though.  Oh by 
the way, did not hold down alt to get message about leaving 
menus.  I was just sitting here when it spoke this itself did not 
touch the keyboard! How did that happen? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:03:01 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with 
aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows 
nothingabout Jaws:


if it says leaving menus, you are holding the alt key down too 

long and have

the menus open is all smiles..


Yes you can find out how large your hard drive is and just about 

anything
else you want to know and probably stuff you have no idea what it 

is and

for...



start key
press letter s till you hear settings and enter
control panel and enter
when the list shows arrow down or press the letter D for display 

and enter
control-tab to the hardware tab page then tab down that page to 

read about

your computer's size.



note..control-tab is different from alt-tab
so don't press alt tab here it will take you out of that 

completely.  There
are several pages to this display and to get to the page of the 

info you

want, you press the control-tab to you hear which one you want.
then after you are finished with all of it, press alt f4 to close 

it out

completely.


**caution!** be careful if you change anything in any of this it 

could cause
some problems to the function of your computer.  Don't mean to 

scare you, but
you need to know and if by chance you accidently change something 

and not
sure how to undo it, tab to the cancel button and spacebar it and 

all will

be as if you never looked there..



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a
problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing 

about Jaws:


Thank you.  Oops why does this thing keep saying leaving menus? 

Probably
doing scan now.  Not sure where it is right now.  Also, thank 

you for
instruction on f 11 systems tray.  How do you know how large 

your hard
disk is.  Cannot remember what I ordered when I did that.  Had 

initially
explained to Del that I would be running speech, but not sure 

how large

this thing is.  Is there a way to ask what size it is? Karen



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:32:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem
causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about 

Jaws:


it will run awhile if it's the first time you have installed AVG?

Also

depending on the size of your hard drive.  I have a 200/GB hard

drive and AVG

runs approx.  1 hour and few minutes each day at 8:00a.m.  to

know if it's

doing it's thang, Press the Insert key*jaws key* and f11, this

opens your

system's tray and if you see in the list...complete test that is

AVG doing

it's scan of your computer.



- Original Message -
From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I would not know how to change these settings for the virus

program.  He

did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary to have it

running

that long? And, not sure what you mean by running one program at

a time.

In other words: could I get to internet through start menu at

all? Got to

that displaying then it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.

I wish I

knew more about these things, and sometimes want to give up.

Karen Not

sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but

getting

very frustrated having trouble for months and months with

different things.



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when I
hadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program

runs? Karen



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Re: [JAWS-Users] my present dilemma: you can contact me off listwithsuggestion. Thank you.

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
thank you very much will be looking forward to hearing from you.  
Karen



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off listwithsuggestion.  Thank you.


I'll talk or email you tomorrow.



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Subject: [JAWS-Users] my present dilemma: you can contact me off 

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withsuggestion.  Thank you.



I cannot seem to do anything right now.  YOU can contact me 

off-list if
you'd like to help with the problem.  I'll thank you ahead of 

time.  I'm
new Jaws user, so it's hard knowing what to do.  Do not know all 

commands
to get myself out of trouble.  Never had training much because am 

isolated

here on Cape Cod no services here.  Thanks again.  Karen



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothingabout Jaws:

2008-10-01 Thread Karen Bailey
Hmm that's interesting you found folks to help so much.  I have 
had some offers, and glad for those.  Feel like I will never 
catch up.  How do you get to the tutorial on the disk? That's one 
problem I have.  Confused about getting to the tutorial to learn 
in the first place.  Wish we could have instructions on cd 
instead for us new users and I hate the way instruction is on 
computer you don't know how to use in the first place.  Think 
your instructor was quite correct, but now problem is, how to 
correct everything I know not.  Karen and Harpo



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From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:18:45 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with 
aproblemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows 
nothingabout Jaws:


I learned from this list and from other people who took time to 

show me.  I
did have 40 hours to learn...xp, jaws, excel, quicken, open book 

way back in

2001 hahhaha


The guy was from the division of blind services he did the best 

he could and
I read and read and ask zillions of questions and brailled 

everything anyone
ever told me because I just knew no way I could ever remember all 

of it and
for sure would be in a situation one day where no help was 

available and I

figured the more info I had available to me the better...
But I really believe the more one uses their computer on a 

regular and daily
bases, the more they become familiar with it.  All of these 

programs can be
found in tutorials or within the help menus of that program to at 

least help

you to learn the hot keys to use the programs.


I have a sister who is a true fan of Word Perfect absolutely 

hates Word.  So
she gets in these jams and calls me, but I know nada on WP and 

tell her to

use Word,grins she hangs up on me,lol hahhah


But one thing I like about windows and most of all windows based 

programs is
the hot keys are the same in most instances...the cut, copy, 

paste for
instance can be used globally and for that I am grateful so not 

have to

learn some other hot keys on how to do the same thing..


Read your help files on your Jaws, my instructor told me to learn 

jaws first
before I could learn to use the computer because the jaws is your 

eyes..


Patricia



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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a
problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing 

about Jaws:



Can I ask you how you learned all this? Did you have instruction
someplace? Some people going to rehab but cannot do that right 

now.
Looking for work, myself, and have duties pertaining to my 

mother in

nursing home.  Karen



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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem
causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about 

Jaws:


The alt-tab lets you go from one open application to another, so

if you had

your email client open*outlook express*, and then decided to open

internet

explorer you could go to your desktop and open that up and then

say you

heard the sound you had new emails come into your inbox, you

could press the

alt-tab to switch back to that program and read the emails and

then press

alt-tab again to go back to the web page you were doing before

you went back

to the emails.



While I was writing you this message, I am downloading something

too, so I

alt tab to check how much longer it has, and then I alt tab back

to this

email smiles



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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




yay! It seems to work.  I did what you said.  press and get to

the desktop

now at start menu.  Wonder if this list box will come up again

after the

virus scan? I have no idea how he got there: said something

about

hybernate mode, when tabbing my name next tab, the name again

and 3

programs not sure what this was.  but seem to be out of it now.

Thank

you.  Got to a site on internet.  Good.  Seem to be in business,

but will

find out for certain tomorrow morning.  Karen thanks again.

Sorry, I'm

just so new at it, and no instruction available for my area so

can use all

the help I can get.



- Original Message -
From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:17:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



did you do windows key and the letter M?
This puts you on your desktop and from there you can press the

letter I for

your

Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-02 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you, but I would need a volunteer on other end.  Will keep 
this though.  Interesting.  Karen



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Date sent: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:09:21 +1000
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a 
problemcausedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing 
about Jaws:



Hi Karen,


There is a free program called Team Viewer that will allow 

another
person to see and operate your computer over the Internet by 

remote
control.  I have a number of blind friends and we use it solve 

these

...what the heck is going on? sort of problems.  It works quite
happily with Jaws.



You can download it at -



http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx


Obviously, you will need a sighted person in your area to help 

out

but it can be a life saver.



Regards,



Mike.



Mike Rule
Barkers Creek
Australia
+613 5474 2324
0418 994 067



At 13:39 2/10/2008, you wrote:

Thank you.  Oops why does this thing keep saying leaving menus?
Probably doing scan now.  Not sure where it is right now.  Also,
thank you for instruction on f 11 systems tray.  How do you know 

how
large your hard disk is.  Cannot remember what I ordered when I 

did

that.  Had initially explained to Del that I would be running
speech, but not sure how large this thing is.  Is there a way to 

ask

what size it is? Karen



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causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



it will run awhile if it's the first time you have installed AVG?

Also

depending on the size of your hard drive.  I have a 200/GB hard

drive and AVG

runs approx.  1 hour and few minutes each day at 8:00a.m.  to

know if it's

doing it's thang, Press the Insert key*jaws key* and f11, this

opens your

system's tray and if you see in the list...complete test that is

AVG doing

it's scan of your computer.



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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused
whenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:




I would not know how to change these settings for the virus

program.  He

did that.  Made it go for six hours? Is it necessary to have it

running

that long? And, not sure what you mean by running one program at

a time.

In other words: could I get to internet through start menu at

all? Got to

that displaying then it just went away now just shows avg.  pooh.

I wish I

knew more about these things, and sometimes want to give up.

Karen Not

sure spending on all this was worth it.  Love the information but

getting

very frustrated having trouble for months and months with

different things.



- Original Message -
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Date sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:09:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when

Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



yes, but AVG will only let you have one of it's running programs

open at a

time.
You can change the time of your virus updates and scans to

whatever time you

want not just what that guy thought you should have,lol



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I know and that's a pain.  Can I do this while virus program

runs? Karen



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had hiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:



Karen, to get to the start menu, press the control key plus the

escape key

to bring up the start menu.  That should do it.  By the way, the

vast

majority of tech guys know nothing about Jaws and they like it

that way.

marilyn




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2008-10-02 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you to everyone trying to help with my crazy computer last 
night.  I have not yet turned it on, to see what's up, but will 
let you know when I find out.  For those looking for me today, I 
will be in and out of here because had to break up guinea pig 
fight resulting in need for more equipment today.  Besides that 
go ahead and contact, will see mail, or get messages on the 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] just a brief thank you to all trying to help melastnight:

2008-10-02 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you.  I'm learning, now just have to try some of this.  
Karen



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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] just a brief thank you to all trying to 

help melastnight:


Hang in there Karen,
as has already been said.  We have all been in your situation 

before when
first starting out with Jaws and so have a good understanding of 

how
confusing and frustrating it can get.  In fact, even after using 

Jaws for

several years, those moments still pop up smile.
   You will find the people on this list, only too willing to 

help out, so

don't hesitate to call out for help
Best wishes Jason
P.S not sure if you know yet, but pressing Jaws key plus function 

key 10,
will bring up a list of the applications or windows you have 

open.  Just
arrow up and down and press enter on what you want.  This can be 

helpful, if

you find yourself lost.
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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] just a brief thank you to all trying to 

help me

lastnight:



Thank you to everyone trying to help with my crazy computer last 

night.  I
have not yet turned it on, to see what's up, but will let you 

know when I
find out.  For those looking for me today, I will be in and out 

of here
because had to break up guinea pig fight resulting in need for 

more
equipment today.  Besides that go ahead and contact, will see 

mail, or get

messages on the phone.  Thanks again.  Karen and Harpo



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem caused when Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-02 Thread Karen Bailey
unexpectedly, system seems to be up today.  Had some trouble when 
at start menu press i for internet and nothing would happen, but 
today seems fine.  Thanks.  Don't mean to be agravation on this 
list.  Somebody just called saying for me to just take a course.  
Karen  just



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Ihadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

Then, can you shut down/turn off and restart your computer?  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] my present dilemma: you can contact me off listwithsuggestion. Thank you.

2008-10-02 Thread Karen Bailey
Hmm, forgot about our community college, but don't know if they 
could help.  Thanks.  Karen



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off listwithsuggestion.  Thank you.

Karen, try what Patricia and I have suggested the past few 

minutes.  Also,
who is your state senator and representative to Massachusetts 

state
Government.  And who is your Congressman?  Call these people and 

complain
about lack of services.  Is there a community college you could 

get to?  If
it has disability services, they could help if you asked.  

marilyn



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Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with a problem causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

2008-10-02 Thread Karen Bailey
Wow, somebody on here offered to help me with Jaws etc.  we just 
had first phone lesson.  Karen very grateful.



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causedwhenIhadhiredatechnician here who knows nothing about Jaws:

Karen, if you did shut down last night and rebooted today, would 

it not seem
that rebooting straightened out some things?  Remember that I 

recommended

that you do that so maybe I was correct.  marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** Re: new subject-karen's problems

2008-10-02 Thread Karen Bailey
I was able to find the tutorials at one time, and must try again! 
Karen



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Subject: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** Re:  new subject-karen's 

problems


hello Karen;


you can also download audio tutorials from the Freedom Scientific 

web site.

you can download the whole thing, or, you can download different 

sections.

if your interested, let me know, I will send you the different 

links if you

wish.



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Good advice...
Also, she can go and visit jaws users web site for very easy 

step by step

instructions on jaws and other programs.
David has really done a fabulous job of all the info on his site 

for

beginner and some what experienced users smiles.
And copying and pasting that info too works great for me anyways 

when I

need to read it a zillion times before trying the steps..



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Subject: [JAWS-Users] new subject-karen's problems



Karen, go down the start menu to where it saysall programs and 

enter.
This will bring up a list of your installed programs.  Arrow to 

jaws

which
has a submenu.  arrow right to unveil that list.  Arrow down to 

see what

the
helps are and enter.  That help manual should have been 

installed by that

techie so that your f1 and f6 keys would talk to you..  marilyn




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[JAWS-Users] thank you again for help, and learned a lot today.

2008-10-02 Thread Karen Bailey
Thank you for help again, and have learned something new today.  
Had lots of help from two people in particular.  So may do 
better.  Sorry about asking questions: but is the only way I 
sometimes learn especially when no structured alternative seems 
present.  Will be looking for the tutorials.  Thanks again.  K.  
and harpo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** Re: new subject-karen's problems

2008-10-08 Thread Karen Bailey
Thanks, I found how to get into the manual on the computer, but 
someone called, and we found Jaws adjustments never done.  He has 
offered to get me into Jaws 10, where he can adjust my computer 
from his.  Karen and Harpo



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Date sent: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:26:30 -0400
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** Re:  new subject-karen's 

problems


hello Karen;


you can also download audio tutorials from the Freedom Scientific 

web site.

you can download the whole thing, or, you can download different 

sections.

if your interested, let me know, I will send you the different 

links if you

wish.



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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new subject-karen's problems




Good advice...
Also, she can go and visit jaws users web site for very easy 

step by step

instructions on jaws and other programs.
David has really done a fabulous job of all the info on his site 

for

beginner and some what experienced users smiles.
And copying and pasting that info too works great for me anyways 

when I

need to read it a zillion times before trying the steps..



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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 1:11 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] new subject-karen's problems



Karen, go down the start menu to where it saysall programs and 

enter.
This will bring up a list of your installed programs.  Arrow to 

jaws

which
has a submenu.  arrow right to unveil that list.  Arrow down to 

see what

the
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installed by that

techie so that your f1 and f6 keys would talk to you..  marilyn




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Re: [JAWS-Users] thank you again for help, and learned a lot today.

2008-10-08 Thread Karen Bailey
Hang in there David, I saw the mail about the guy with the 
illegal stuff.  I guess I have not a devious mind, but did not 
know about the kind of stuff they want to hack.  Sorry for you 
having this on the list.  Karen and Harpo



- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:47:11 -0400
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] thank you again for help, and learned a 

lot today.

It makes all of the aspirin I have to take some times just to 

keep this list

up and running worth wild, you're welcome.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you've already made other plans.
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From: Karen Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 4:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] thank you again for help, and learned a lot 

today.


Thank you for help again, and have learned something new today.  

Had lots
of help from two people in particular.  So may do better.  Sorry 

about
asking questions: but is the only way I sometimes learn 

especially when no
structured alternative seems present.  Will be looking for the 

tutorials.

Thanks again.  K.  and harpo



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