RE: [LegacyUG] Shifting Sources
Jenny, Online sources change format quite often, therefore, I do not update all of my old citations. The reason for this is that by doing so, I would be spending all of my available time updating old source citations instead of researching my ancestors. However, I would set up a new Master Source that reflects the new format for future entries. This may not be the way Elizabeth Shown Mills would do it, however, it is the way I am most comfortable with. Charles -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:30 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Shifting Sources Well, it's not actually the Sources which have shifted, but the names of Collections change and/or Search methods change and I'm wondering how other LUGgers handle this. Here's an example which illustrates exactly what I mean. In the Good Old Days when searching FindMyPast for a marriage in the English county of Cheshire one could select Parish Records from a a menu, then select the tab for Marriages and then enter the search parameters. I set up a SourceWriter Source (using the template for Church Record Books created at local level, online images) called Parish Registers - FMP. I put the website details into the Master Source and entered Parish Records Collection in the Collection field. The name of the specific Church and its location and whether the record is from PRs or BTs and whether a Baptism, Marriage or Burial, I included in the Source Detail. Now the FindMyPast site has been completely re-vamped and the easiest and quickest way to find a marriage in Cheshire is to use the All Records list to select either Diocese of Chester Parish Registers of Marriages or Diocese of Chester Bishhop's Transcripts of Marriages. There is no longer a facility to search Parish Records generally. So, the question is this: would you continue to use the Parish Registers - FMP template and have any following-on researcher muddle through to find the same record which I did, or would you set up a new Master Source for the specific Collection (and corresponding new Sources for the Baptism and Burials Collections, PRs and BTs in each case and for each County)? And supposing you create a new set of Master Sources, would you update all your old citations to the new Sources or leave them as they are? I think I know what Elizabeth Shown Mills would say, but I am not asking what is RIGHT, but what do most people actually do?! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Independent City location entries
As most of you are aware some states, especially Virginia, have Independent Cities as opposed to being located in a particular county. Previously, I have been leaving out the Independent City criteria when recording locations. Since I am cleaning up my Master Location list, I was wondering how many people on this list actually enter the Independent City information in locations fields. For example, Richmond, Virginia could be entered as Richmond, Independent City, Virginia, United States or it could be entered as Richmond, , Virginia, United States. The Geo Location Database in Legacy 8 has Richmond, Richmond (city), Virginia, United States. Although I realize that this is most likely personal preference, I would really like to know how others using Legacy 8 enter Independent Cities. Caveat: It is not my intent to start a discussion on the pros and cons of the three comma criteria. I am very well aware that the three comma criteria in locations does not fit all countries in the world. Besides this has been previously discussed and is probably in the Legacy Archives. Thank you for your assistance, Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Event sentence
Jo Poi, I have not tested this, however, you may need to put a space after the :If condition. Try this and see if it works, :If [Notes]::[-Notes] If not let us know whether it worked or not. Charles From: Jo Poi [mailto:jo...@hush.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 10:54 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Event sentence Using 'Sentence/Event' from the help file I came to the conclusion that if I include the following :if[Notes]::[-Notes] in a sentence it would insert the 'notes' only if I had included notes. Unfortunately that does not work. Any suggestions as to how I could achieve my objective ? Jo Poi Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] File Naming Conventions
I need to combine four different family files into one family file representing the lines for both husband and wife. Does anyone know if it will potentially present a problem if the one single family file is named after both spouses surname with a hyphen in the middle i.e., Jones-Smith. I cannot find anything in the help files that indicates that the hyphen is an illegal character. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] File Naming Conventions
Thank you Cathy. Charles -Original Message- From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 10:13 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] File Naming Conventions There's no problem with using hyphens. If it's legal in Windows, it's OK in Legacy. This is something controlled by Windows which is why it's probably not in the Help file. Cathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????
Elizabeth, I tested a backup on the new version of Legacy (8.0.0.427) and Legacy does not add any numbers i.e., [1][1] etc. to the filename. Please check to make sure that you are using “File Backup.” Charles From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:50 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1] Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I close and save my file? EXAMPLE; john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I close and save it...and on and on and on. john.zip john[1].zip john[1][1].zip john[1][1][1].zip john[1][1][1][1].zip etc. elizabeth Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Event Definition Sentence
Thanks Jenny and Brian. Your information helped me to better understand event sentence structure in Legacy 8. Charles -Original Message- From: Charles Apple [mailto:apple1...@centurylink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:52 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Definition Sentence I have noticed that Legacy 8 does not contain the [Notes] and [Sources] placeholders in the default event sentences, however, files that were converted from Legacy 7.5 to Legacy 8 display properly with Notes and Sources. Is there a reason why the [Notes] and [Sources] variables were left out? Are they redundant or not needed? I am not having a problem, but I am trying to understand why the Event Sentences in Legacy 8 are different from those in Legacy 7.5. I have checked the LUG archives and the Legacy 8 manual, and cannot find a satisfactory answer to my question. I am using Legacy 8 Deluxe version 8.0.0.414. Thank you for your assistance, Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Problem with Family Group Report
Thank you Diane and Kurt, I have also sent in a bug report, however, I have not heard anything further. For me, this is a critical issue since I try to reconstruct the events of my ancestors lives, and if I cannot rely on the Event Sentence Definitions, reports will be subject to error. Charles From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:56 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Problem with Family Group Report There’s a bug in the [FirstHeShe] function. From: Diane [mailto:manley1...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 5:30 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Problem with Family Group Report Charles; I have had the same issue and reported it; however, I haven't heard any further about the status. Like you, I've tried doing a restart and a check/repair. I've noticed the incorrect names pulled into shared events. Diane Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Problem with Family Group Report
The event sentence in the Family Group Report is displaying the wrong person. I ran Check/Repair, checked the event sentence definition, restarted Legacy 8 (latest release), to no avail. The problem persists, and nothing seems to correct it. First problem: My Citizenship event definition reads as follows [FirstHeShe] was automatically granted [Desc] [onDate] [inPlace].[Notes] [Sources] which should read as John was automatically granted United States Citizenship at the moment of his birth on 9 May 1949 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio. Instead of displaying this way, the [FirstHeShe] placeholder picks up his mother's name, instead of his. Second problem: While checking the event sentence definitions I also noticed that all of the [sources] and [notes] were missing from the event sentence definitions even though the sources and notes displayed correctly in the Report. Is there a setting that I have missed? Any assistance in resolving these two issues would be greatly appreciated, Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Mobile Apps for Legacy
Thanks David. The time consideration is also important to me. Charles From: David Cripps [mailto:cri...@netspace.net.au] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 7:40 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mobile Apps for Legacy Hello Charles, Monday, March 3, 2014, 9:35:04 AM, you wrote: Which of the two mobile applications, Pocket Genealogist or Families, is best for using Legacy on a Samsung Galaxy S4? It is my understanding that Families does not support Legacy 8 yet, and I am not sure about the Pocket Genealogist. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. I'm more of a lurker on this List than a poster, but having gone through the selection process for having a Genealogy app on my Galaxy S3, my thoughts are as follows: (1) Yes Families did work ok on my phone, but my file ended up being 163 megs in size, took ten minutes to encode, then another 15 to 20 minutes to upload to Dropbox. (2) I make updates regularly to Legacy and want the changes reflected quickly on my Android phone, so for me I considered the time aspect important. (3) Only a personal choice I guess, but do I want photos to display on a tiny smartphone screen; No perhaps not. (4) In the end I wanted the data to be readable, the sources available, but no photos, and that is why I choose a GEDCOM platform app, like Family Bee. Personal choice of course, but in the end I wanted all my data readily to hand when I visit the local archives or library, and I find that a GEDCOM app more than meets the bill for this. Cheers Dave Cripps in Hobart Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Mobile Apps for Legacy
Thanks Ron, That is certainly and important piece of information relative to using Legacy 8, since that is the version of Legacy I will be using. Charles From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 10:00 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mobile Apps for Legacy Charles, One thing to keep in mind - If you are using event sharing, a GEDCOM solution will not transfer the sharees in a shared event, only the main person will be transferred. Families will transfer shared events with all appropriate roles and sentences being transferred. Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Charles Apple apple1...@centurylink.net wrote: Thanks David. The time consideration is also important to me. Charles From: David Cripps [mailto:cri...@netspace.net.au] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 7:40 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mobile Apps for Legacy Hello Charles, Monday, March 3, 2014, 9:35:04 AM, you wrote: Which of the two mobile applications, Pocket Genealogist or Families, is best for using Legacy on a Samsung Galaxy S4? It is my understanding that Families does not support Legacy 8 yet, and I am not sure about the Pocket Genealogist. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. I'm more of a lurker on this List than a poster, but having gone through the selection process for having a Genealogy app on my Galaxy S3, my thoughts are as follows: (1) Yes Families did work ok on my phone, but my file ended up being 163 megs in size, took ten minutes to encode, then another 15 to 20 minutes to upload to Dropbox. (2) I make updates regularly to Legacy and want the changes reflected quickly on my Android phone, so for me I considered the time aspect important. (3) Only a personal choice I guess, but do I want photos to display on a tiny smartphone screen; No perhaps not. (4) In the end I wanted the data to be readable, the sources available, but no photos, and that is why I choose a GEDCOM platform app, like Family Bee. Personal choice of course, but in the end I wanted all my data readily to hand when I visit the local archives or library, and I find that a GEDCOM app more than meets the bill for this. Cheers Dave Cripps in Hobart Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Mobile Apps for Legacy
Which of the two mobile applications, Pocket Genealogist or Families, is best for using Legacy on a Samsung Galaxy S4? It is my understanding that Families does not support Legacy 8 yet, and I am not sure about the Pocket Genealogist. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Mobile Apps for Legacy
Thank you Carolyn. That is good to know since it appears their website has not been updated. Charles From: Carolyn [mailto:carog...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 5:50 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mobile Apps for Legacy I am using the Families app on a Samsung Note 8, with Legacy 8 and it is working perfectly. Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Mobile Apps for Legacy
Thanks everyone for responding. It looks like the consensus is Families for Legacy. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Possible bug
Ed, I am running Legacy 8, version 8.0.0.397, build date 4 February 2014 on a Windows 7, 64 bit computer. I attached a .pdf file to someone in the Media Center, and was able to open that .pdf just fine. No problems at all, and I am using Adobe Acrobat XI Pro. Charles From: Ed Ladendorf [mailto:edladend...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 9:32 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Possible bug Some of you know I've been having a problem opening a .pdf file in Legacy 8. Here's what I found out: I have Legacy 8 on my desktop computer and on my laptop. My desktop is Legacy 8.0.0.397, build date Feb 4. I can not open .pdf files on it. My laptop has not been able to access the internet for a while. It's version is 8.0.0.367, build date Dec 20. I added the .pdf file on it, and it opens as it should!! If you have the Feb 4 build date, please try to open a .pdf file if you have one in Legacy, and let us know if it's the build or not. Thanks. Ed Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Run Time Error 3021
While clearing the Clip board for another source, I received Error 3021 and Legacy 8 closes. Opened Source Clipboard clicked on Clear All to remove the old source. A message appeared Are You sure that you want to clear the Clipboard, after clicking Yes, I receive Error 3021 and Legacy Closes. Is anyone else receiving this error? Is this a bug? I did find a work-a-round though, Click on the Change Master Source at the top of the window, and select or add the new source. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Installed Version: 8.0.0.397
Thank you Jenny, I was wondering when someone would mention this universal option. Charles -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:30 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Installed Version: 8.0.0.397 On 06/02/2014 01:04, Gene Young wrote: I have just noticed a serious bug in the latest build, 8.0.0.397. Whereas in previous builds you could use the F9, F11, and F12 buttons to copy and paste, in this build they do nothing. Using these functions saved me literally thousands of key-strokes. I certainly hope that this is an error and not a deliberate regression. But is it really so much more awkward to use the more-or-less-univeral Ctr-C, Ctrl-V and Ctrl-X? (Never knew you could use the F keys as you describe.) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Origins Report Issue
I was able to duplicate the problem that you experienced with the origins report. I tried the same generations as you and received the same results Runtime Error 3265, followed by a shutdown. Charles -Original Message- From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 6:39 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Origins Report Issue I hadn't run this report for a while so I looked at it again only to get Runtime Error 3265. Item not found in this collection followed by a Legacy 800-397 shutdown. I tried it with 24, 16, 12, 6 and 3 generations. I ran Check/Repair and then ran the report again but with the same results ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Popups missing
Ron, Kurt, Left clicking worked, but I also found something interesting. If you hover over the individual in Pedigree View the popup will appear, however, if you move the mouse pointer above or below the rectangular box on which the individual appears, the popup will not reappear when returning to the same individual unless you left click on the name of the individual. Alternatively, if you move the mouse pointer either to the left or right of the rectangular box on which the individual appears, and then move the mouse pointer back and hover over the individual the popup will appear without going to someone else or left clicking. Interesting. Charles -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:15 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Popups missing Charles, Kurt, I thought that I couldn't return either, but a left click seemed ti do the job. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Merging Sources
Thanks Brain, Russell, and Kurt for your assistance. I placed the correct source on the clipboard, cited the new source where appropriate, and removed the existing incorrect reference until all were removed. Then deleted the incorrect source. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] interview questions
Look at the bottom of the page when selecting Interview Questions. There is a place to select language. Select the language of your choice. Mine was not in English by default either. Charles From: Sydney Gabel [mailto:sydney.ga...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:01 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] interview questions Why are the interview questions not in English? And yes, I chose English when setting up Legacy, Version 8. I did an update tonight. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Timeline locations
Bob, See if this works, select the Chronology Tab Options from the menu select Display Options under Other Options (bottom right corner) click the button labeled Select Remove any selected timelines showing in the Currently Selected Timelines window click the button labeled Add A Timeline File. This should allow you to choose the timelines from the Legacy 8 installed Timelines. However, you would be well advised to follow Jenny Benson's comments and reinstall Legacy 8 to its default location. From my own personal experience, I know that the above step will select the correct Timeline files when installed to the default locations, however, I don't know how it will work when Legacy 8 is installed to a location other than the default. Charles -Original Message- From: Robert57P_gmail [mailto:robert...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 1:36 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Timeline locations How do I control where Legacy looks for timelines? I don't see it under CUSTOMIZATION. I just discovered that Legacy version 8 on my desktop is looking for the timelines in the old version 7 folder. Not a major problem until I eventually delete the version 7 folders. How to I tell version 8 to look in the version 8 timeline folder? The laptop (that never had version 7) can not find the timelines in my family file because I did not copy the version 7 folders over to the laptop. I'm guessing I can copy my unique version 7 timeline files from my desktop to my version 8 timeline folder on my laptop (and to the version 8 folder on my desktop). But my family database is looking for them under the version 7 folder. How do I change this? The Help file says timelines are located at: [My Documents]\Legacy Family Tree\_AppData\Timeslines\[Language]. But this is not the case for me. Ah - I just found them under: C:\winprog\Legacy8\_AppData\Timelines But I still don't see a way to tell the program where to look. I should mention that I installed Legacy 8 at C:\winprog\Legacy8 And legacy 7 program is installed at: C:\winprog\Legacy Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] New computer: what order to do these?
Seriously, what is the argument for NOT keeping both V7 and V8 on the same computer? Charles From: Mary Young [mailto:m...@cmy.org.uk] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New computer: what order to do these? On 6 January 2014 13:16, Duane Baker dbake...@yahoo.com wrote: What is the argument for keeping both V7 and V8 on the same computer? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] New computer: what order to do these?
Paul, Point well taken, thank you. Although, I have not yet removed V7, I have been considering the extraneous work that would be required to maintain both databases, as well as the necessity of that extra work. Charles From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 4:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] New computer: what order to do these? Charles, I must say that I have not yet removed V7, but in my view the argument for removing it is that for most of us, it serves no purpose. Since the file structures are different, one would need to main dual data entry if one was to keep both databases current. And, for most of us, that’s unnecessary and a waste of time. If one is not going to keep the database current, there is simply no reason to keep the program around. Just my two cents. Paul Gray Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] can't open my family files
Try this link http://legacyfamilytree.com/helpDownloadVersion7.asp#7 Charlesw From: Susan Swindell [mailto:swind...@value.net] Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 4:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] can't open my family files Good idea but I haven't been able to find 7.5 and its updates on the website. I have a similar problem. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:26 PM, David Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com wrote: Try updating to 7.5, then see if you can open this file? Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -Original Message- From: Turnham [mailto:bdturn...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 12:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] can't open my family files Hello all I have just joined this group and hope that someone can help me. I haven't used my Legacy for some time. I purchased the De Luxe version 7.4 (from my disc) but maybe I updated from there but I can't get into the program to check as explained next. I went in today and tried to open a family file. It said that the format had changed and did I want to convert to the new format and cautioned that if I did that I might not be able to see the data or something like that. I clicked don't convert but I could not open the family file. Would someone please explain what is going on? Thanks for any help. Barbara --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Susan swind...@value.net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Moving Legacy 7.5 database to Legacy 8
I previously copied my Legacy 7.5 deluxe database to the Legacy 8 deluxe data folder, however, all of the Event Notes were missing. Therefore, I deleted the database in Legacy 8 and have been learning Legacy 8 with the Sample database. I would now like to move my working database from Legacy 7.5 to Legacy 8. My question: What is the best way to convert my Legacy 7.5 database to Legacy 8, without any loss of data, customized event sentences, sources, and event notes? Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. I am using the latest version of Legacy 8 Deluxe on a Windows 7 (64 bit) computer. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Legacy 7.5 database to Legacy 8
Thanks Jenny, that worked very well. The Event Notes did not display, however, by default they are turned off. Therefore, I went to Report Options Include Tab Event Options Other Options and checked Add Event Notes, and VOILA all of the Event Notes appeared. Thanks again. Charles -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 1:47 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Legacy 7.5 database to Legacy 8 Charles Apple wrote: I previously copied my Legacy 7.5 deluxe database to the Legacy 8 deluxe data folder, however, all of the Event Notes were missing. Therefore, I deleted the database in Legacy 8 and have been learning Legacy 8 with the Sample database. I would now like to move my working database from Legacy 7.5 to Legacy 8. My question: What is the best way to convert my Legacy 7.5 database to Legacy 8, without any loss of data, customized event sentences, sources, and event notes? Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. I am using the latest version of Legacy 8 Deluxe on a Windows 7 (64 bit) computer. Just make as if to open a family file inn Legacy 8 and navigate to your Legacy 7.5 file (which is probably in C:\Legacy\Data). One of the options which will be offered is to make a copy of that file in the new default location and convert it to the Legacy 8 format. This is the best option as you will lose nothing and will still have your original 7.5 file which you can continue to use in 7.5 if you wish. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages
It is my understanding that the purpose of genealogy is to reconstruct the lives of our ancestors as best as possible, and not how we would have preferred it to have been. To that end, Legacy does an excellent job. Just my two cents worth. Charles From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 10:15 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages I don't record best friends or pets either Ellen, they are a completely different kettle of fish. If I was to include those, I'd potentially look like a crazy cat lady to anyone who looked at my tree in future. I do however have an albeit small number of people in my tree who have been in a same sex relationship for at least twice as long as a number of marriages. If I am going to record a 3 year marriage, or a 5 year de-facto not-married-but-had-kids relationship, I should at least honour the 10+ year committed same sex relationship in the same way. I am not going to deny the child one of their parents just because their parents didn't marry, so why should I deny someone their life partner because the law denies them the same rights to marriage as everyone else? If Legacy brings in the ability for same-sex relationships to be recorded - it's going to be an optional thing, just the same as using the Research Guidance, or the Surety Levels, or adding images and sources are optional. (Although I would hope that sources are being recorded somehow, even if the Basic Sources or Source Writer features aren't being used) God Bless You too Ellen, hope you had a Merry Christmas. On 26 December 2013 12:42, Ellen kramer...@comcast.net wrote: I do not record relationships of couples who do not marry. I also do not record all know best friends or pets or anything else except for Church recognized marriages. If you want that, that is your option. From the studies that I have seen and from all of the rare same-sex pairs that I have known, same-sex relationships typically are not life-long. Not everyone wants Legacy to make this possible, but it sounds like they might have with the below info. I support them in not adding this as a feature. Legacy hears from the few who want it far more often than those of us who are grateful for it not being there. God bless, Ellen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Split View
From the Legacy 8 Menu select View Split Screen Charles From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 7:10 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Split View But that cascades or tiles the various open applications not the various Legacy views. C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON From: Mary Young [mailto:m...@cmy.org.uk] Sent: December 23, 2013 06:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Split View On 23 December 2013 22:25, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote: From The Legacy 8 Help File … 3. If you want to arrange the views as overlapping, choose Cascade from the Window menu. You can also choose Tile Horizontal or Tile Vertical to change the arrangement. Just out of interest, where is that Window menu? Right-click on an empty part of the Windows Taskbar. Mary Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Issues
Elizabeth, If you are using Windows 7, “My Document” is similar to a short cut and part of “Libraries” which point to where the data is actually stored. This allows you to store information in one place regardless of where on your computer it is physically located. They are not really two (2) copies. Charles From: Elizabeth Hatchell [mailto:elizab...@hatchells.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:44 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Issues I am trying to follow this correspondence but looking at My Documents I see that not only all media and data has been put there under the Legacy Family Tree folder, but also sub-folders as follows: Legacy Family Tree NameMaster-media 2013-12-02 18.07.58 Legacy Program Files (x86) Legacy Users Followed by lots of later backups but without the sub-folders. Legacy8 also appears (with lots of sub-folders) in my C\Program Files (x86). Should I really have two copies of the program floating around? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] v8 Hide/Show Spouse/Child and Siblings List
Is there an option in Legacy v8 to turn on or off the Hide/Show Spouse/Siblings list in Pedigree View as was in Legacy 7.5? I have searched and cannot find it, perhaps I am overlooking something. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Customer Number for Legacy 8 Upgrades
I just spoke with someone at Customer Service and they indicated to me that they had not anticipated the volume of orders, for Legacy 8, that is being received today, and that they were processing Customer Numbers, and orders, as quickly as possible. They also indicated that the normal 24 hour (maximum waiting time) had been extended to 48 hours, and that if I had not received my new Customer Number for Legacy 8 after 48 hours to call Customer Service. So the bottom line is, they are busy processing orders and we must be patient. Charles From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:56 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Customer Number for Legacy 8 Upgrades Thank you. I figured it would be busy. The Order Desk is processing orders as fast as possible. We appreciate your patience. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event
Paul, In support of Ron Ferguson's comment below, remember that there are certain Genealogical Standards that should be adhered to, however, beyond that it is your research and you should do that which you are most comfortable with and produces your desired results. I live in the United States and have traced my ancestors back to Germany, England, France, Scotland, and Ireland where the 4 field convention is no longer applicable nor is it desirable. The bottom line is to do that with which *you* are the most comfortable and to achieve *your* desired results. Charles -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 5:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event Paul, Sherry is well aware of my views, so will not be surprised when I repeat that in my view users should always do that which they are most comfortable with. In any case the expand/contract options are not available in Aussie. As you no doubt aware the UK does not fit the American designed 4 field convention either. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] One couple, Two weddings, No divorce, how to record both dates?
Kathy, I am not very familiar with reading parish records, however, from the transcripts provided below it appears to me that they were “. . . Proclaimed” husband and wife in 1766 August 31. This appears to be the actual marriage ceremony. Robert Marshall and Elizabeth Lawson were “booked in Order of Marriage” on 1766 September 10; this appears to be a parish administrative issue where their marriage was officially sanctioned and recorded into the records of Gask parish. I hope that is helps, however, I am not certain. Perhaps Mike and Ron can provide additional information. Charles From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] One couple, Two weddings, No divorce, how to record both dates? The earlier marriage in Madderty reads: 1766 Aug 31 Robert Marshall in this parish and Elizabeth Lawson of Gask parish were proclaimed _?_ _?_ (I can't make out the last two words but since I can't post images to the group.) The later in Findo Gask reads: 1766 Sept 10 Robert Marshall in the Parish of Maddarty and Elizabeth Lawson in this Parish were booked in Order to Marriage and as usual gave to the Poor On 20 October 2013 19:17, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote: Definite the same couple. One parish has Him of this parish and her of the other parish The other has Him of the other parish and her of this parish. No mention of banns in either. Will post transcripts of each if you think that may help. Kathy On 20 Oct 2013, at 6:07 pm, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Kathy, Mike has already mentioned the possibility of the first date being Banns. Are you absolutely certain that they are not different couples with the same names - although because of the additional information given this is less likely with Scottish records than English. It is possible that they did marry twice, say, his and her churches, in which case I would create am Alt Marriage Event for the second. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Chronology Timeline question
Barbara, He is listed on your chronology because 1) the two of you are connected by marriage, and 2) he was born before your, therefore, he is listed first. Charles From: Barbara [mailto:bschwart...@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 10:27 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology Timeline question Yes, my spouse was born then, but what I don't understand is why on my chronology it is he who is listed first. Is that just the way Legacy is set up? Barb - Original Message - From: Kathy Thompson mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology Timeline question Was your spouse born on Sept 23 1930 by any chance? My spouse appears before me in my timeline, with a negative number, because he is older than me. Otherwise, I see nothing there to show your Marriage appearing before your Birth On 9 September 2013 20:26, Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com wrote: I hve update 7.5.0.270 Dates: At the top of the page: Parents Next line: Life Range 13 Nov 1931 to present Next line: -11930 Sept 23 Spouse Next line: 1931 Nov 13Birth Next line: 1940Residence All dates appear to be correct. Perhaps in one of the set-up files I need to delete a checkmark. Barb - Original Message - From: Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology Timeline question Barbara could also tell us EXACTLY what dates appear for her birth and marriage that are appearing in the wrong order in the Chronology view. There may be something there that we can spot, which isn't obvious to her. Kind Regards, Wendy Ron Ferguson said the following on 9/09/2013 8:59 a.m.: Barbara, What I was hoping for was that incorrect dates might show up. I would suggest that you try repeated running FileFile maintenanceCheck/Repair until no problems show then try again. If that doesn’t work please let us know. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ *From:* Barbara mailto:bschwart...@twcny.rr.com *Sent:* Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:57 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Chronology Timeline question It didn't help Ron, Barb - Original Message - *From:* Ron Ferguson mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:38 AM *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Chronology Timeline question Barbara, There is absolutely no way we can answer that question. I would suggest that you run a Potential Problem Report on your Family File, and come back to us if that does not help - with as much detail as possible. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com mailto:bschwart...@twcny.rr.com wrote: In my timeline why is my marrage listed before my birth? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived
[LegacyUG] Event Sentence Structure Recommendations
I would like to develop and event sentence specifically for wives and their children whose husband and/or father is a career military service member. The wife and children accompanied their husband and or father to each of his military reassignments in different locations, many were overseas and others were within the continental United States. Obviously, the wife and children are not subject to the Military Orders received by the husband, therefore, that would eliminate sentence structures specifically dealing with military transfers. I have struggled with this for a while, but for some reason, am drawing a blank. Any recommendations from the Legacy User Group will be appreciated. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy updates - FSFT does not connect to Legacy when combining the person i question
Helle, I had a similar or possibly the same problem. After downloading information from FSFT into Legacy, the data did not appear in Legacy. However, I changed focus by switching to either the spouse or one of the children and then returned focus (Family View) back to the person I was working on, and all the information appeared. So, try downloading one piece of information. Go back to Legacy and change focus in Family View and then back to the original person. Check to see if the information, that you download from FSFT, has appeared. Charles From: Helle T. Hirschmann [mailto:he...@hirschmann.dk] Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:26 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: SV: [LegacyUG] Legacy updates - FSFT does not connect to Legacy when combining the person i question With the new update I have a different problem and I do not know if it is a Legacy problem or a FSFT problem. Working on a family some family members connect really well with FSFT and all data is carrying over well. Others I get to go to FSFT - combine a number of persons in a relationship: parents and children. Somehow it seems that the persons on FSFT are disconnected and do not carry over to Legacy. If I write down names and data of a possible spouse I sometimes can get the marriage relationship to work and sometimes get the children too. But I have to enter them into my Legacy file and then connect again. I do not know if this has been discussed before, but I have not noticed any subjects pointing that way. Hope I am the only one. ☺ Helle Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] 'de' in a family name
Alan, Although not technically correct, I combine the prefix with the surname in order to prevent two surnames. De and Le are French-Norman prefixes meaning “of the,” therefore, and especially in the case of “De” these prefix’s sometimes denoted people that were landed wealthy aristocrats. Many such prefixes have been combined over the years, i.e., Devoe, Devane, etc. The prefix “Fitz” is also French-Norman originating from a Latin prefix, which means “son of.” A common surname that has been combined in FitzGerald. And there are many, many others . . . . My suggestion is to do what is understandable and comfortable to you. It is your data. Charles From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 4:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 'de' in a family name I have seen some systems that work around that problem by having a second surname field which is used for sorting purposes (UK National Burial Index uses that process). I'm not sure that Legacy could accommodate that without a major rewrite. Alan Pereira From: Tim [mailto:t@tesco.net] Sent: 08 August 2013 17:13 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] 'de' in a family name Further to Jackie’s recent post on foreign names, it appears to me that le Clerke and de Dompere are full family surnames in their own right rather like van and von attached to Dutch surnames and should be listed under L and D respectively. My problem is when at some stage in medieval times, ‘de’ attached to a surname denoting place of origin of the family, is no longer used. For instance, I have numerous ‘de HATFIELD’ and ‘HATFIELD’ of the same family which appear under D and H in the name list, and which is confusing. I am thinking of changing ‘de HATFIELD’ to ‘HATFIELD, de’ so that they all appear under the letter H. Any views? Tim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Events - repeated or is once enough?
My ancestors came from a small village in Germany where there was only One Church. Prior to 1535 everyone in the village was Catholic since the only Church was Catholic. However, following the death of the Priest, the Lutheran Preachers took over the church. So if anyone in the village wanted to attend church, they had to follow Lutheran doctrine and teachings. After migrating to America, many converted to other religions. My point in all this, is that some people had no choice as to which religion they belonged to, and as a result converted to other religions out of necessity. So this should be kept in mind. Charles -Original Message- From: Ken McKinlay [mailto:km-...@rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:52 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Events - repeated or is once enough? One word of caution in terms of having a single Religion event and assuming the person was that religion throughout their lives. Although it is rare to have a Catholic to change to a Protestant based religion (including Church of England) it was not unheard of. The same goes for a Protestant changing to become a Catholic, although in that case there will be some interesting documents concerning the renouncing of heresy (especially pre-Vatican II days). Additionally, at least in parts of Ontario and the Maritime provinces of Canada, Protestants could switch religions depending on what schism had occurred or if there was a closer church when they moved. As with all events, a judgment call needs to be made for each person and you need to watch out for assumptions. Regards, Ken Sherry/Support said the following on 3/11/2013 2:28 PM: I would have the event only once but source each document where it was found. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:25 AM, lio . likeitouts...@hotmail.com wrote: For the example where someone is recorded as Catholic on many different documents, do you create a different Religion/Catholic Event each time, or do you just set up one with the date being (for example) 03 Aug 1875-10 Dec 1912 and source it with each document recording Catholic? This can be the same for someone who lived in the same Residence for 60 years. Do you show 150 Events with the same address or do you do that same as above? Thanks! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
Richard, Don't you think it is a little hypocritical for you to force HTML on those who do not wish it, and then label those same people with unilateral bullyism for asking you to use plain text. Charles From: RHS Consulting [mailto:rhsconsult...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 3:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text Interesting opinions. Looks like the plain-texters have it. But wait a minute. There are many of us out there that detest plain text in body or attachment, and I happen to be one of them. To force us out of the picture smacks of unilatetral bullyism, and we wouldn't want that, would we? Stick to what you prefer and like best. Richard / HTML Always - Original Message - From: Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text On 9/16/2012 11:40 AM, Michele Lewis wrote: If attachments are a no-no and you are supposed to send messages in plain text isn't there some sort of setting on the Legacy end that would prevent attachments and convert HTML/RTF messages to plain text? Nope Didn't it used to be that way at one time? Nope -- Tim Rosenlof Utah, USA Swedish Research Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth City (a county), VA error message
I am not exactly sure, but the City of Hampton was incorporated as an Independent City in 1908. Elizabeth City County still existed but more toward Newport News which became part of Elizabeth City in 1928. Langley Air Force Base is within the boundaries of the City of Hampton (Independent City). The two cities are adjacent to each other. Please verify this. Charles -Original Message- From: mbstx [mailto:msz...@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Elizabeth City (a county), VA error message Today I was entering information for a family member who was at Langley AFB in Virginia in 1940. The image clearly shows Elizabeth City as the County name. When I entered Elizabeth City in the County field in Source Writer I got an error message that there was no such county in 1940. BUT the county verifier clearly shows Elizabeth City as a County in VA from 1634 to 1952! Parent county: original shire; no progeny counties; name changed to Northampton 1642. So which is it??? Wikipedia says it was still a county under the name Elizabeth City in 1952. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_City_County,_Virginia Marianne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Multimedia in sources.
Ron, To test this, I inserted a PDF file into the source detail using the multimedia tab. When clicking on the image, the PDF file opened in Adobe Acrobat. I suspect that it will work for other PDF viewers as well. Charles -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:34 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia in sources. Ian, Have you tried putting a PDF image in the file area? I haven’t, so I don’t know if it will work, I expect that it will when opened in your PDF Viewer in the same way as you view text. If you are asking does Legacy have its own PDF Reader then, as I am sure you know, the answer is , no it does not. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Multimedia in sources and fillable forms
For those that may be interested, I ran another test using the source detail in Legacy; however, this time I used a PDF form that I had made so that information could be entered into the relevant fields of the PDF form. In this case it was an Individual Worksheet designed for collecting information on any given individual. It also opens from Legacy with Adobe Acrobat and allows one to complete the relevant fields. This may be beneficial to some Legacy users who use research forms. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Family Group Sheets
Michele, I downloaded Nemo, installed and ran a trial test on a Windows 7 64 Bit Machine, and it worked. Microsoft Word 2010 is 32 Bits, for various reasons I chose not to install the 64 bit version of Word, however, the resulting output was nowhere near as high quality as Adobe Acrobat Professional. It would require extensive editing, in addition to what you want to do. You may like Nemo, however, it would not be acceptable to me for Legacy Family Group Sheet editing. Charles -Original Message- From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:54 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Family Group Sheets Thanks Steve. I just sent a test document to the online converter that Margaret recommended. I am waiting to get it back. It converts straight to a Word document would be even better than an RTF. If that doesn't work I will give Nemo a whirl. Michele -Original Message- From: steve [mailto:steve...@tpg.com.au] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:21 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Family Group Sheets Hi first time poster Just went to Nemo website and it has Windows 7 as compatible OS Perhaps you have an older version. Please check the website. Or are you using 64bit version? Steve On 15/07/2012 10:01 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: Well now that was some seriously bad news. Michele -Original Message- From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Family Group Sheets Nemo, unfortunately, is deemed incompatible by Windows 7. --- JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/14/2012 7:19 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: Thank you so much! This will save me a ton of time. I guess I should explain WHY I need to be able to edit FGS. I am using a portion of my file for a 4 generation genealogy for ICAPGen. Because this is a family that I have been working on for 20 years I have multiple sources for each fact. For example, for a single marriage I might have 6 sources. For the ICAPGen report I need to just have 1 source per fact unless there is a real reason to have more. I want to run clean FGSs and then manual add the sources in. That way I can get them formatted correctly (Legacy doesn't always do it exactly right) and I can pick which source I want to use for what. It will make for a much cleaner report :) Michele -Original Message- From: Margaret Turner [mailto:mgroga...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:42 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Family Group Sheets Michele 1. Free software to convert pdf to rtf: http://www.nemopdf.com/pdf-to-word.html 2. online converter - one document at a time emailed back to http://www.pdftoword.com/ 3. purchase a commercial product :) Margaret -- On 15 July 2012 06:22, Michele Lewisancestor...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any way to print Family Group Sheets to an RTF so that I can edit them? I only see options for HTML, TXT and PDF. That isn’t going to work for what I need to do. Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus
RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Family Group Sheets
Michele, The following *will not* work on the free Adobe Acrobat Reader, however, if you have Adobe Acrobat Professional follow these steps. 1. Print your family group sheet to PDF remembering where you saved it. 2. Open the PDF in Adobe Acrobat Professional. 3. From the menu choose FILE SAVE AS MORE OPTIONS RICH TEXT FORMAT. This will save you pdf file into Rich Text Format. 4. Open it in word. You can choose convert if you want to convert the rtf to a Word Document, everything should be retained. 5. Edit as you like. Hope this helps, Charles -Original Message- From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Family Group Sheets I want it to look pretty like the screen print or the pdf, the text file and the HTML are not the same. Michele -Original Message- From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:54 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Family Group Sheets What I was doing recently was printing to HTML and then copying and pasting into Jarte, which is an alternative to WordPad, just because I like it better. So there's your RTF. It's doable. --- JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 7/14/2012 1:22 PM, Michele Lewis wrote: Is there any way to print Family Group Sheets to an RTF so that I can edit them? I only see options for HTML, TXT and PDF. That isn’t going to work for what I need to do. Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage.
For what it's worth, referring to genealogical standard's it matters not what I think. For accuracy, all genealogists should record information as it was, or is, in reality and *not* what we wish it to be. Therefore, we enter information into Legacy Family Tree accordingly, even it that involves workarounds. I agree with flexibility in all programs, however, in all fairness to Legacy Family Tree an all of its programmers, no program can possibly meet 100 percent of everyone's wishes. Charles -Original Message- From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. Michelle, That is you perrogative if you choose not to list gay marriages. However, I strongly feel that it should be an option for those who choose otherwise. I am gay. My partner and I have been together for 39 years. I would love to be able to combine our genealogy into one file. On a side note, the new Heredis has chosen to use the title of Partner rather then Husband/Wife. Also their software does not refuse to let you choose two Ms or two Fs. They are not making a statement for or against gay unions. They are giving the user the ability to choose how to record their information. Regards, Ron Bernier -- Original Message -- From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 7/9/2012 5:51:03 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex marriage. I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay relationships in my Legacy file. I would be one of those religious freaks :) My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay. In my file he is listed as never married. I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on this one). Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Error 3800 and other problems
Elllen, Send your .pdf report using the Print Command and select a .pdf printer. Charles On 17/06/2012 17:37, Ellen wrote: However, I cannot get it to save .rtf or .pdf in any line. If I try to save books from each line into the Publishing Center, it changes all of the book info to the current line that I have open. I have been trying to send info in .rtf or .pdf to other people to proofread and they can't read things because it will only save in .rf1 which doesn't exist. God bless, Ellen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Diamond-trees in the rough and what to do with them in your core Legacy file
Bill, I pretty much follow the same advice as given previously by Michelle. Personally I would import the GEDCOM into a *separate* family file created specifically for that particular GEDCOM or Family Line, but definitely *NOT* into my main Family File. This just makes it easier to work with and compare to your Family File, IMHO. In addition to contacting the author for additional source information, as Michelle suggested, I would only use the information in that GEDCOM or new family file as *LEADS* for further research and proper sourcing. Geoff R.s statement is worth repeating, Genealogy without documentation is Mythology. As a side note, some members of the Legacy User Group will not respond to a message sent in HTML, so please make sure that all your messages are formatted in Plain Text. Hope this helps, Charles From: William (Bill) R. Linhart [mailto:wrlinh...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:25 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Diamond-trees in the rough and what to do with them in your core Legacy file I am new to this forum so this might be an out of line question -- not sure. I am very strong technically, so I don't need all the details, more of a vision would be helpful. I am good at technical details. Right now I need help to see the forest. I have a small Legacy family file of about 100+ people. I have found a useful tree (via Legacy research tips :-) ) with another 100+ family members. I downloaded a GEDCOM and created a temp-Legacy file to review the content. There are no sources in the GEDCOM but it looks like some good leads. I found it on Rootweb (last updated about 2004). The authors email address may or may not be good as it is from 2004. I suspect the person is part of this tree and the tree is based on family legends and personal conversations. About 20 % of the new family members are in my current file with high degree of confidence. Before I shoot myself in the foot I would like to ask this community for an approach to using a tree of unknown quality when you find one. This is the first time I have ever found tree I value. It links, without any doubt, to my tree to some extent or to a large extent. The 20% is a perfect fit. It is the 80% I don't know how to approach. What are the risks? What mistakes should I avoid that you all know about from lessons learned? If I can avoid doing something really stupid, I would like to avoid doing it. How would you approach this beast? (1) MERGE with my Legacy file and sort out details later? (2) MANUALLY add these 100 entries one at a time and research each? (3) LIMITED-MERGE keep only blood lines and cast off the rest? (4) Should I try to contact the author? What would I request? I am new to genealogy so I don't know the etiquette that is common between researchers. (5) ... I could go on with questions but I bet you guys have faced this hundreds of times ... this is my first time. Maybe there is some guidance in a book or in a class or in a CD from Legacy? I don't know what I don't know. Or maybe Geoff R. can create a new Webinar on Diamond-trees in the rough and what to do with them in your core Legacy file? ... if he has not done that one yet. My goal is to document and share my own family tree as professionally as I can. I know I have a lot to learn. Your suggestions for guidance would be greatly appreciated. I have reviewed training Volume 1 and am working through training volume 2. I have found these to be very good resources for learning the tool features and functions. I have been monitoring Legacy webinars. If this belongs on different board, please let me know where. Thanks, in advance, for your consideration. Bill Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Research Notes
Kathy, You mentioned a Research Log in your email below. I use Legacy's Research Notes as a Research Log noting everything in chronological order from birth to burial and anything in between. I use Legacy's ToDo List to make notes of additional items that I need to do further research on the individual in question. I agree with Ron, as with so many features in Legacy there is no right or wrong way, just individual preferences. Hope this helps. Charles From: Kathy Meyer [mailto:kmeyer2...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 4:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Notes Aha! Ron, I think maybe you have hit on the answer I need. I haven't used 'to dos' much; played a bit to see how it worked but that's it. I felt like I had to really embrace that function if I was going to use it effectively, otherwise, I would probably enter a few things and forget to go back and look. I'm still very much attached to my paper and pencil, making notes about what films I want to look at etc. I was thinking Research Notes because a lot of people used to use a 'research log' to record what they were searching (film), what they were looking for and what the results were. So I was thinking that Research Notes would take over that function; and I guess it could, easily. But MAYBE it would be better, even after the fact, to go into the ToDo List and create a ToDo item for each film I looked at, it's source description, and my results from that. I am looking for a way to record everything I've researched on a particular person in one place so I could look at it and see what records I have already viewed and their results. Would using the ToDo list in the way I mentioned accomplish that? Thanks! Kathy On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Kathy, Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] 32 versus 64 bit
Lyn, I am running Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit, and also run Legacy 7 Deluxe, 32 bit, with no problems. Whoever the people are that gave you that information is definitely misinformed. To answer your question, yes, you are OK to install and run Legacy Deluxe 7. Charles From: Lyn Lou [mailto:lyng...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] 32 versus 64 bit Hi, This is probably a dumb question however I just need assurance. I have gotten a new tower with Windows 7 Home Premium, 64 bit.. The people I bought it from said that I need to be careful about putting any 32 bit programs on my computer. Since I have Legacy Deluxe 7 with all of the upgrades I am OK. Is that correct??? Thank you, Lyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Can't install update
Rita, I concur with Mike, the message is not a valid Win32 application is coming from the Temporary Files folder or Browser Catch. Clear them all and retry. It should work properly after the cache has been cleared. Charles -Original Message- From: Rita Lynn McKale [mailto:cagr...@comporium.net] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:12 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Can't install update On 2012/03/26 11:03, Rita Lynn McKale wrote: I need some help. I was trying to update Legacy to the newest version. My internet connection was interrupted and when I went to retry, Legacy wouldn’t open and informed me to download from the website. I am attempting to do that but I’m getting the following message C:\Users\Rita\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\TemporaryInternetFiles\C ontent.IE5\1JJ6LJMP\Legacy7Setup[1].exe is not a valid Win32 application. First, this is a file in your Browser cache. So, clear the cache and begin again. Mike, I tried thisno difference. Rita in South Carolina Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] 1930 US census
Tony, How a census is recorded is a personal choice. I suggest that you try each recommendation and decide which method you prefer. Personally, I record each Census as an Event in each person's life. Charles -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com] Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] 1930 US census I've just found my first ancestor on a US Census and I'm a bit confused about the way to set up my source writer source. For British Censuses, I have one Source for each Census 1841 British Census 1851 British Census etc. When I tried to set up the Census for the USA, the source writer template asks for State and County in the source, rather than the detail. Does this mean that I have to have different sources for each County? I would have expected to have one source for each US census and put the State and County in the detail. I used Census Records United States Federal Census records 1930 Population Schedule Online Images Any advice would be appreciated Thanks Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing
Paula, I leave all documents for children in their Parents Folder, however, when and if a child marries I move only the documents that pertain to that particular child to his or her folder. I sure that there are other ways preferred by other researchers, however, this method has worked well for me for many years. In the end, I really think it is personal preference. Charles From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing Just realized that I'm not sure I know what you all do with the documents from a person's childhood when they marry. Do you leave those documents with his/her parents? or do you move them with him/her to the new marriage/MRIN folder? Thanks. --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Any concerns with V. 7.5.0.154?
Brian, I haven't noticed the same problems after the upgrade to V. 7.5.0.154. Yes (in my case) it did fix the previous problems, however, like Ron, I can't make a recommendation one way or the other. It's entirely your choice. Charles -Original Message- From: Brian Lehman [mailto:blr...@optonline.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Any concerns with V. 7.5.0.154? With all the report,font etc problems that version 7.5.0.149 had, I am a little reluctant to update to V. 7.5.0.154. Does it fix the previous problems, should I wait for a future release? Please advise. Thanks and take care, Brian Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7.5.0.154
Not here either. After Check/Repair Legacy automatically resumed in the Database that was open prior to the Check/Repair. Apparently, my results were the same as those of Tim. Charles -Original Message- From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:31 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 7.5.0.154 Check Repair on completion now asks if you want to open a different family file in the New window? No! Not a bug but will get very annoying. Alan Pereira Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Surname pronunciation
Richard, Names evolve considerably over generations, depending on dialects, countries of origin, countries of destination, languages used, and many other factors. I don't believe there is one easy answer, although, there may be many opinion's on why it should be done a particular way. Personally, I prefer a method similar to transcription i.e. record information as found in the records. In other words, how did the people who had those surnames pronounce them at that time in history, and what is the particular country and language of origin in which they spoke. The two examples that you cite Noel and Barron linguistically and etymologically originated in the Old French language, and being familiar with French both surnames have a definite Nasal quality or tone to them. However, having said that, both surnames could possibly be traced back prior to the Norman conquest of 1066, and on into Latin variants. For example, my surname is Apple and the surname originated in Germany. Even between dialects in Germany, I have found approximately 40 different variant spellings and pronunciations among the German people. When my ancestors came to the United Sates, their surname was recorded Phonetically so again, in the English language there are approximately 35 variant spellings and pronunciations. I don't believe there is one single best answer to your question, nor do I believe there is a dictionary or lexicon that can provide an adequate answer. Perhaps, in a particular time, place, language, and country, however, beyond that the surname evolves into different spellings and pronunciations. As previously stated, I prefer to record the name as it was spelled and pronounced at the time, language, and country in which it was used. Charles From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:50 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Surname pronunciation Any suggestion on how to record proper pronunciation of a surname? My mother was always correcting us on her grandmother's surname of NOEL must be pronounced Newel not like Christmas. Also her aunt and cousins BARRON must be pronounced nasally, sort of like Bahra. (They sometimes appeared in census as BARROW) I considered AKA but tend to prefer a name source. I don't know how to create a source for oral preaching. Any suggestions please? -- Richard Van Wasshnova Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] deleted entire file
Lyn, How long has it been since you deleted the file? And was the location of the file on your hard drive, as opposed to a memory stick? Without going into a lot details, your file may not have been deleted. Instead, a pointer was changed rendering that file invisible to the operating system. However, the longer you wait from the time of the files deletion, the greater the chances of it being overwritten by other data or files. There are several free hard drive utilities on the internet that will allow you to recover lost files. Just use your search engine to find one. As previously mentioned by Jerry, the recycle bin is actually a failsafe from which a file can be recovered. Simply right click on it and you should be presented with a menu, however, failing that simply double click on the recycle bin. Charles G'day All I am in desperate need of help, I have deleted my legacy file and I have no idea how to restore it, to todays date. I have done the unforgivable and have not backed up for 3 weeks. Please is anyone able to advise me. cheers Lyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] deleted entire file
Some (not all) applications actually *DO* delete the file so that it is unrecoverable, however, I am not familiar enough with the Legacy File Delete Family File command to provide a knowledgeable answer, assuming that was really the case. Good question Tim. Charles -Original Message- From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com] Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 1:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] deleted entire file I wonder if she used with Legacy... File Delete Family File Tim Rosenlof Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Help files
Betty, Jenny answered your questions appropriately, however, I would like to address one specific issue in your email with which I am very well familiar with, i.e.; This UG seems to be the only place to get answers, but frequently they come with the ‘you should have known that’ attitude. When I switched from another genealogy program to Legacy and became of member of this LUG, I also felt as you did, however, after of couple of days of countering those responses, I soon began to realize that the more knowledgeable members were either being succinct in their answers, or trying to point me in the direction where I could find an answer and thus it became a learning experience for my benefit, without any intended negative meaning. The negative answers were a result of my perception, and not those intended by the writers. The bottom line is, please don't write off Legacy as genealogy program or the more knowledgeable members of this LUG, who are more than willing to assist others, simply because of a perceived you should have known that attitude. From experience, I can assure you that is not the case! Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening
An extract from the message below states . . .which is the actual meaning of the Greek word baptizo - to immerse May I suggest that you verify your Greek interpretation from Koine Greek sources rather than Classical Greek. There are actually Two (2) different Greek words, which can be verified by a 900 BC document in which both words are used each meaning two different things, however, both represent two individual steps in one continuous process. No Theological agenda, of any kind, is attached to either word in the 900 BC document. The same Koine Greek language was later used in the Septuagint Translation. Charles -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening It really becomes a matter of one's religious beliefs as to whether the terms are the same. Most of the evangelical Christian churches do not use the term christening because they believe the Bible only teaches adult baptism and normally by immersion, which is the actual meaning of the Greek word baptizo - to immerse. Not wanting to introduce any controversy on that - everyone has to be persuaded in their own minds and according to their own beliefs, but that is perhaps why it is better to use the term baptism, rather than christening, as it covers it for both belief systems. And in the event it doesn't, then you can simply add your own event and call it whatever you think is appropriate. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Consolidated location and address suggestions
Mark, A few states have Independent Cities that are not located in any Counties. Here is a list of a few, all in Virginia since I am well aware of these. Hampton, , Virginia, United States Newport News, , Virginia, United States Virginia Beach, , Virginia, United States Danville, , Virginia, United States Charles -Original Message- From: Mark Lang [mailto:markl...@adam.com.au] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:31 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Consolidated location and address suggestions Mary, I am sorry, but that just simply does not make sense. The whole US is divided into states which is divided into counties. I know of no situation where there is a place that is in no-man's land, that is just uneconomically unviable in any first world environment. Please enlighten us how a US city cannot be in a county, I really do want to know. Kind Regards Mark Lang Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Consolidated location and address suggestions
Michele, I guess it would depend on Legal Jurisdiction. Does Richmond County, Georgia assert legal jurisdiction over the City of Augusta, or does the City of Augusta assert legal jurisdiction over Richmond County, or do each County and City maintain their own independent Legal Jurisdictions? The same applies to Jacksonville, Florida. Charles -Original Message- From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv [mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Consolidated location and address suggestions That is strange. Augusta is is Richmond Co, GA. Augusta covers the entire area of Richmond Co but it is considered part of Richmond Co. It is the same with Jacksonville, FL. The city covers the entire county but the county still exists and Jacksonville is in Duvall Co. michele -Original Message- From: Charles Apple Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Consolidated location and address suggestions Mark, A few states have Independent Cities that are not located in any Counties. Here is a list of a few, all in Virginia since I am well aware of these. Hampton, , Virginia, United States Newport News, , Virginia, United States Virginia Beach, , Virginia, United States Danville, , Virginia, United States Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Colour coding of Ancestors
John, The color code system is based on the 4 grandparents, thus your 4 grandparents do not include your wife's line, however, the 4 grandparents of your children do include both your line as well as your wife's line. Therefore set the colors with one of your children as the focus of the Family View, and your wife's line will be colored as well as your own. Charles. -Original Message- From: Gensearcher [mailto:gensearc...@sky.com] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:06 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Colour coding of Ancestors Hello Listers The recent Webinar about colour coding Ancestors in Legacy prompted me to set my colours I have set my colours for my lines but no colours have been set for my wife's line How do I set this Regards John Manchester England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Windows 7 (Starter)
Robert, this could also indicate a Red Flag. Before deciding check out the graphics card, processor, and memory capacity. If these meet Your requirements for Your specific intended use of the Netbook, then the Windows Starter OS, or base OS as Bob pointed out, should work just fine. As Bob point out, Starter is a stripped down version of the Windows OS. Unfortunately, I have never used Windows 7 starter version, and cannot comment on its reliability, from experience. Charles From: Bob Rowe [mailto:rarthurr...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 7:48 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Windows 7 (Starter) I don't have any first hand experience with this, but I don't see why Legacy wouldn't work fine on Windows 7 Starter. Stripped down mostly means that the OS doesn't have all the fancy graphic stuff because of the limited graphics card, processor, and memory. Legacy doesn't require or use any fancy graphics. It will run fine on any 'base' machine. I think that Starter is a terrible name for an 'base' Operating System. I think people see it as being substandard. If you thrive on all the fancy graphics then I guess it is substandard. A basic Chevy will take you to all the same places that a Cadillac will. Bob From: Robert E. Carneal kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 6:11:01 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Windows 7 (Starter) I am being offered a Netbook for a good price. The problem is it has Windows 7 Starter on it. I am leery of that- does anyone have a Netbook with Windows 7 Starter on it, and is running Legacy on it? How well does Legacy run on it? Several Internet sites said the Starter version was really stripped down, so I want to be certain first. I want to be sure it will accommodate Legacy, accommodate my photos, etc. Thank you. Robert Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Always SOURCE your work. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Showing historical locations.
Similar situations have occurred in the United States, i.e. Washington County, Tennessee was at an earlier time Washington County, North Carolina. All tutorials that I have read or viewed indicate that a location should be recorded as it existed at the time of the event, and not as it is now. Perhaps this is extraneous information from some points of view. Would this not be similar? Charles -Original Message- From: M. Brenzel [mailto:brenze...@roadrunner.com] Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 7:55 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Showing historical locations. In my opinion, it is important to remember the history. I have events in my database that took place in what is now Detroit, Michigan, USA when it was a French fort. Research provided me with the time frames of Detroit's evolution through various jurisdictions until Michigan became a state. So I have the following locations in my database: Fort Ponchartrain du Détroit, New France Detroit, British North America Detroit, Wayne County, Northwest Territory, USA Detroit, Wayne County, Indiana Territory, USA Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan Territory, USA Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, USA In the Notes section under each location, I have included the following: Detroit was founded as a French fort in 1701 and continued under French Rule until 1760 when it was taken by the British. It remained under British Rule as Detroit until the Treaty of Paris in 1783, although the British continued to control Michigan until 1796. From 1796-1803, Detroit became part of Wayne County, Northwest Territory. From 1803-1805, it was part of Indiana Territory. Michigan Territory was formed in 1805 and remained as such until it became the State of Michigan on 26 January 1837. Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Artifact vs Recorded Legal Certificates
Thank you Jenny for your response which certainly helps. My greatest concern was focusing on the Source from which I received the information. One Source being an individual who privately held a Certificate (Which may or may not have been supplied by the local office of origination) even though she definitely was a participant in the event (marriage); and the second Source being the County Clerk of Origination where a record of the event is maintained. Based upon your recommendation, it would appear that the Individual in possession of the Certificate would be regarded as a Repository, and the County Clerk from whom I received a photocopy would be regarded as another Repository. Am I understanding your response correctly? Charles -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 5:40 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Artifact vs Recorded Legal Certificates On 28/10/2011 02:40, Charles Apple wrote: The marriage certificate was of her own marriage, and at this point I can only assume (which I don't like do) that she and her husband received it from the same place they were married. The photocopy that I received from the County Clerk's Office appears to be identical as to her own marriage certificate, however, I would like to record each as separate source. Additionally, there were other birth and marriage certificates for her mother and father (both now deceased) and I have not had the opportunity to verify the information in those certificates with those of the County Clerk or State Vital Statistics Office. I think the situation is a little different here in the UK because the only way you get information from the Authority (which would be General Register Office or the local Register Office where event took place) would be in the form of a Certificate. If I am in possession of an original Certificate (and by original I mean one issued by the GRO or a local RO, rather than a photocopy) then I use the SW template for Certificates, regardless of whether it was me that obtained the Cert from the authority or someone else who gave it to me. If someone else holds the Cert but gives me a photocopy then I still use the same template but record in the Comments that it is a photocopy of an original held by X. In your situation I would do much the same: use the Marriage Records - Found in Governmental Records template, attach a copy of the photocopy you have and record in the Comments that the information actually came from 2 sources. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Artifact vs Recorded Legal Certificates
Hi Marianne, The marriage certificate was of her own marriage, and at this point I can only assume (which I don't like do) that she and her husband received it from the same place they were married. The photocopy that I received from the County Clerk's Office appears to be identical as to her own marriage certificate, however, I would like to record each as separate source. Additionally, there were other birth and marriage certificates for her mother and father (both now deceased) and I have not had the opportunity to verify the information in those certificates with those of the County Clerk or State Vital Statistics Office. The confusing issue for the privately held certificates is that the Legacy SourceWriter Template only allows for Marriage Records, 1) Found in Church Records, or 2) Found in Governmental Records, and 3) Frakturs which does not apply to any of the certificates supplied by the individual, however, it does apply to the photocopy that I received from the County Clerks Office. Hope this is a little clearer, Charles -Original Message- From: mbstx [mailto:msz...@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:50 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Artifact vs Recorded Legal Certificates From whom did you obtain the privately held marriage record, and is it an exact copy of say, a marriage license or a church marriage for the couple? Marianne -Original Message- From: Charles Apple apple1...@centurylink.net Sent: Oct 27, 2011 1:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Artifact vs Recorded Legal Certificates This is probably a dumb question, however, I was recently provided a copy of a Marriage Certificate privately held by an individual. I had previously been to the County Clerk and photocopied the necessary information that was recorded by the County Clerk for the same Marriage Record. My question regards the appropriate Source Writer template for both of these source, even though they are relative to the same marriage. Should the privately held marriage certificate be recorded using the Artifact template, and the Marriage Record maintained by the County Clerk be recorded using the Marriage Certificate, Local Government template? Are privately held Birth, Marriage, and Death Certificates considered Artifacts, at least until verified by following up with the appropriate county or state agency? Thank you for your assistance, Charles E. Apple Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How do I include - no issue (children) and exclude unknown
David, Referencing your question, firstly through an exhaustive research some married couples are known to have had no children and should be documented as such. Secondly and probably more important, making assumptions prior to an exhaustive and documented research can lead one into mythology and pure fantasy. Following an exhaustive research one can make a hypothesis based upon available evidence up to that point, however, newly uncovered evidence can either prove or disprove that hypothesis. Charles -Original Message- From: David C Abernathy [mailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:53 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How do I include - no issue (children) and exclude unknown This may be a dumb question, BUT, why is this No issue such a needed entry? If there are NO children listed in a database, I assume that there are NO children for this union. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Birth Verification Form Citation
Correction. The fourth line down should read, How should one document. . . . instead of has should one document. . . I need to do a better job a proof reading before hitting the Send button. My apologies to all. Charles -Original Message- From: Charles Apple [mailto:apple1...@centurylink.net] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 10:38 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Birth Verification Form Citation The Tennessee Department of Vital Statistics will only give a birth certificate copy to the person named on the Birth Certificate or to certain immediate family members. However, they will provide information by way of extraction from the original onto a Birth Verification Form. Having not been able to see the actual Birth Certificate, I cannot verify that the information provided on the Birth Verification Form is accurate, and some Counties do not keep a registry of births within their respective counties. Therefore, my question is, has should one document this Birth Verification Form using the Source Writer templates? I am using the most recent version of Legacy Deluxe, and use the Source Writer for sources and citations. As a side note, these Verification Forms are available for Births, Marriages, and Deaths. Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated, Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
Thank you Mike for pointing that out, that is definitely a welcomed addition. Charles -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 5:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins On 2011/09/19 01:36, Charles Apple wrote: Jenny is one the more experienced Legacy users in this group, as is a number of other users. Sometimes their answers are short and to the point, and there is no intended offence on their part during those messages. Sometimes all of us read something into a message that was never intended by the writer. That being said, let's get back to doing what we do best, genealogy and Legacy Family Tree. And sometimes, people don't write what they think they've written :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
James, James, I just enter the relationship of both husband and wife, and to which ancestor they are related and how, in the notes section of the standard marriage event. I try to keep it simple to avoid any confusion. In my particular case, there was such a ferocious legal battle that occurred, that none of the descendants ever spoke of it again. After the first and second generations were deceased, none of the descendants had any knowledge of who they were related to or where they came from. It is not so much the fact they were related as cousins, brothers, sisters, etc., however, by having that knowledge, it will focus you in the direction of your research efforts, such as court documents. I only enter the husband and wife's relationship to each other, and not to me. For their relationship to me, I rely on the standard Legacy set relations feature. My reasoning is that I believe that it will add a potential layer of confusion. I have never done a search for those individuals that may be related in a way other than marriage. Perhaps someone on the LUG will respond to your question that is more experienced with this aspect of Legacy than I am. I address each individual as I get to them, and specifically prove a relationship, other than marriage, when it is warranted, or a question exists as to the relationship. In my opinion, there is more than enough to do in documenting and sourcing direct line ancestors without looking for additional work. Just my two cents worth, Charles -Original Message- From: James Cook [mailto:jc1...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:20 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins I encountered this just yesterday. If you don't mind sharing, what does your text include, just a simple note saying they were 2nd cousins? If it helps, in this case, the married folks are 2nd cousins to each other. However, to me they are either [1/2 1st cousin once removed and wife] or [husband and 2nd cousin] I guess Legacy chooses shortest path or something, but it seems to prefer wife of 1/2 1st cousin over a whole 2nd cousin. IIRC, I can chose which I'd prefer. What do you chose and why? Is there a way to somehow use Legacy to point out if I have others in my file like this? I've not found anything that makes this apparent in the UI, reports or charts. How would I go about finding any others? Thanks jc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
Jerry, I would recommend that you continue making a note of cousin marriages, although some didn't see the point of your question, I definitely do. I suspected that one of my ancestors in particular had married first cousins, and it took me ten (10) long years of research before I was able to prove with empirical evidence that the marriage took place. Many may think that was silly of me and a waste of time, however, the point of proving the marriage was that it connected a line of descendants, from that marriage, to the source ancestor. If it was not for the proof of that marriage, I would still be guessing at the connection, and their ancestors. That single connection allowed me to follow the ancestry back to England from which they immigrated. For those that think this is not important, Sir Admiral Nicholas Haddock, and his father Sir Richard Haddock portraits can both be viewed at the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich, London. Both served in the British Royal Navy. So by all means please make a note. Those that don't may regret it later. Charles -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 3:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins I don't know why you would treat it any differently. I know why I would. Our 522-page genealogy book happens to mention it whenever it occurs, even though it was common in the 1800s, more so than today. So, since they mention it, I think I'll continue to put my simple note in the standard marriage event as I've been doing. I guess the answers confirmed I'm on the right track. By the way, why is everyone so grumpy on the list when a simple question is asked? There is a right way to respond and saying I don't see the point of your question? seems grumpy to me. Sorry, but it does, but maybe I'm being grumpy in responding in kind. But, thanks - I've got all the information on the subject I need and then some. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins
Jerry, Jenny is one the more experienced Legacy users in this group, as is a number of other users. Sometimes their answers are short and to the point, and there is no intended offense on their part during those messages. Sometimes all of us read something into a message that was never intended by the writer. That being said, let's get back to doing what we do best, genealogy and Legacy Family Tree. Charles -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:14 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage To Cousins Thanks Jenny. I can accept that. Now we can both go and fry our bigger fish. Thanks! Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/18/2011 6:14 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote: On 18/09/2011 20:08, Jerry wrote: By the way, why is everyone so grumpy on the list when a simple question is asked? There is a right way to respond and saying I don't see the point of your question? seems grumpy to me. Sorry, but it does, but maybe I'm being grumpy in responding in kind. I was certainly not grumpy. I was simply being honest. You asked if I did something. I replied that I did not and could not see why you would ask such a question. You in turn have given a reason for asking. Good, we both have our answers; that's what this list is for. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Possible new buyer
Bob, I have never used Ancestral Quest and cannot compare the problems that may, or may not, be associated with an import from Ancestral Quest, however, I can definitely say that I imported genealogical databases from another Genealogical Program, that was not very compatible with Legacy Family Tree and do not know of any data that I have lost. Yes, there are General Notes, Research Notes, and Medical Notes sections for each individual. I must say that Legacy is the best, and easiest to use Genealogical program that I have used. If you do buy, try and get the Deluxe Addition. Perhaps there are others in the LUG that are much more knowledgeable about Ancestral Quest than myself. One more suggestion if I may, many people on the LUG will not respond to an email formatted in HTML, so please format your emails in Plain Text if you want to get the greatest response from members in the LUG. Charles From: Robert Sutton [mailto:rasutto...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 11:28 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Possible new buyer Hi group, I am considering buying Legacy, and I have a few questions. 1. I am presently using Ancestral Quest 12.1.30 and am wodering if I can import my entire file to Legacy? 2. Is there a note section in Legacy. All my information is stored in Notes in Ancestral Quest. 3. Is there an undo option in notes? Thanks in advance. Bob Sutton Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Name Filing System
Paula, Perhaps not in its strictest sense by definition, however, aren't photographs just another Document Type that could be crossed referenced in an Index of Surnames? Charles From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Name Filing System What about files (mainly photos) that are not sources? Will look in News archives, thx. Tho I suspect Geoff will not be recommending any filing structure that is outside of C:\Legacy ;) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Name Filing System
Paula, I am not suggesting this is right for everyone, however, it's just the way that suits me after 20+ years of hard research. Everything I get is filed, whether it is a digital image on hard disk, photograph, hard copy of Birth Certificates, etc., or anything else. All folders have a number, whether in a filing cabinet, computer hard drive, three ring binders, or archival boxes. Each file, document, photograph, digital image, etc. is filed in a numbered folder. An Excel Spreadsheet acts as the Master Index. Locations are things like filing cabinets, computer hard drives, three ring binders, etc. The Excel Spread records the Surname, Given names of the individual, along with the location number, folder number, and document number within that folder, along with a description of what that document is. I also have a column in each record row for Search tags to help in locating a particular document. Using this system, it really makes no difference where a document is filed. I can easily find it by Searching the Master Index in Excel, going to the location and retrieving the document. Charles From: Lisa Gorrell [mailto:snryl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Name Filing System Paula, I use surname file folders. When I file the census based on head of household for that family. If there are two family members on the page, I make a copy to put into that family's folder. The reason I do this, is so I can see everything that I have on that family. I only keep the file/hard copy in the folders, and do not link them to the software. I haven't completely decided on my file organization and do not want to re-link if I decide to move a file to another folder. Lisa Gorrell On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Just re-read many posts in the archives, but still have one issue pertaining to how to organize files in folders (digital or hard-copy). This question is for those of you who organize your folders by surname, not by document type. How have you filed your census images/transcriptions/data? I have cases where not only do two brothers (same surname) live near enough to be on the same page, but also where several families that are related (if not at the time of that census, then later when one's son married another's daughter) are on the same page (different surnames). Do you keep a copy of each in each family's folder? I'm about to start an organization project and would welcome your quick input on this question. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Set preferences for user group
Thank you Wendy. It is much easier for us to learn to control our own messages, than expect others to do it for us. Charles -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:01 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Set preferences for user group werl...@gmail.com said : It would really be nice if a digest format were available, as with many other lists. It is getting difficult to manage the large volume of emails. Any way to add it to a wish list? What you - and anyone else - can do, is use your email program/services tools to manage your mail better, to identify the incoming list mail and divert it to its own folder so that it's away from your Inbox. Many email programs/services use rules or filters. They're the same thing, just different names. Take a look at the Help file for whatever you're using for the details. I have some instructions on my personal web site for another list, which work fine for other lists by substituting the appropriate email address - http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/How-to.htm#RuleFilter It's been many years since I updated that information, but there's enough there to give you the idea of what's going on if your specific program isn't covered. I see you're using Gmail, werleme, and I can't see that you're using an email client (program) so presume you're using their web service? Gmail on the web has filters, but it doesn't have folders. It uses labels instead. In this situation, it's not so convenient, to my way of thinking, but not impossible. I think I'm showing my age (mid-40's and having used email since the early 90's), in that I like to download my mail to my computer and deal to it there. At Gmail on the web, you can use a filter to label the list mail, then you can choose to read it separately from your other mail. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] New Memeber
Welcome Ray, There are many experienced and knowledgeable people within the Legacy User Group from all parts of the world. Charles From: Ray Kohls [mailto:ray...@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:52 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] New Memeber I am a new member Ray Phoenix, AZ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Citing Scotlands People records - basic source
Jennifer, My Ancestors came from Scotland, Ireland, Germany, England, and France. I have done as Jennie Benson suggests. Using the Source Writer I develop a master source and citation based on the appropriate template for Birth, Death, Marriage, etc., regardless of what specific country the people are from, or living in at that time. Personally, I would not want to lump all people from a particular Country into one Master Source. Charles -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 9:52 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing Scotlands People records - basic source I have some records from Scotland People and don't know the best way to source them. I came across some examples (http://blog.iwikiwi.com/2011/06/oh-look-who-i-found/ and here is what I came up with for mine : Scotland, Lanark County, Dennistoun, Register of Births, 1885: entry 1156, Mary Smith, 13 June; digital image, ScotlandsPeople (http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ : accessed 31 July 2011); citing Statutory Births no. 644/03 1156 I would prefer to have one Source for Scotlands People and use the detail for the particular source. I am not sure how to break up the above example, or a better idea. I would prefer it in basic source format, not using Source Writer. Any ideas welcome. Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information
Mike, Question: I don't know, but, If the TRN files were edited wouldn't a subsequent upgrade possibly replace the TRN files? Charles -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:48 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information On 2011/08/06 13:07, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: I haven't tried it, but you might want to play around with the language file that you are using. Of course, make a backup first. The language files have the .trn extension. The TRN files are just plain text and therefore open to being edited :-) Entries 331-345 appear to be the most relevant to the original subject. For example:- 331 == was born [BirthDatePlace] [BirthAddr],[BirthSources] [wasChrTerm] [ChrDatePlace] [ChrAddr],[ChrSources] died [DeathDatePlace] [DeathAddr] [DeathSources] [DeathAge], and was [;;buried::cremated] [BurialDatePlace] [BurialAddr].[BurialSources] Caveat Emptor! -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Using Source Clipboard
I would like to add my voice to those that DO like the three bar icon, and I use it regularly. When I was learning Legacy, I made the mistake of using the three bar icon when I shouldn't have and added sources that I didn't want to my events. After cleaning up my mess, I learned when to use and when not to use the three bar icon. Mistakes are excellent tools IF we learn from them, Success never taught anyone anything. Just my two cents worth. Charles -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:34 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Source Clipboard Jerry, Please do not assume that because some users have misunderstood the workings of the three bar icon that others do not use daily - I know that I do. Removing it would certainly make my work take a heck of a lot longer. Please leave it alone. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Multimedia backup
Does this problems arise when storing multimedia within subfolders of C:\Legacy\Pictures? As an example; C:\Legacy\Pictures\Groups C:\Legacy\Pictures\Docs C:\Legacy\Pictures\Places Thank you for your assistance, Charles -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:24 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia backup That's because every computer has a slightly different file structure for the documents and settings and why we encourage users to place the pictures they're going to link to in Legacy in the appropriate sub-folder in the c:\Legacy folder. That way you won't have pictures go missing because of the difference in the file structure. Legacy stores the full path to the pictures in the Family File. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:08 AM, mike bridgeford mikebridgef...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, I know this subject has been beaten to death - but I have a serious problem with this. Normally, at home, I keep my pictures all up to date, and there are no miss-matches with the files. When I travel and am away from home [as I am at present], I transfer everything to my lap top before I go. Copy all the pictures in the same C drive sequence of folders; do a backup, and transfer everything to my lap top. They never match - the picture files are always missing on the laptop, and today I cannot even get the question mark to find the file - it just disappears, and the picture file is not placed in the individual file event. This is really annoying, and I think one of the most urgent items for attention. The dancing icons were minor - but it get 'fixed' almost immediately!! I really believe we need a solution to this hassle as soon as possible. Regards, Mike Bridgeford Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How do you record someone that has gone through a change...
I had a similar situation with one of my ancestors, and I recorded them as Michele suggested. For recording purposes, they were born with a specific gender and name, and all source documentation (Birth Certificates, Census, etc.) supports those facts. The change to their gender and/or name occurred as an event during their life time, therefore, I recorded them as such. I don't know if this is the correct way, or not, it's just the way that I chose to record them. Charles From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv [mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How do you record someone that has gone through a change... I would have them in my database as the sex they were born. I would put the name change and the sex change as an event or in the notes. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage)
I also have a similar situation, and I did basically the same as mentioned in the previous thread. Personally, I would record his Given Birth Name as shown on source documents. In my particular case, the ancestor had their Given Names changed legally, therefore, I created an event indicating this change, and included the detail in the Notes Section as necessary. Really, it depends on the situation, if the name was casually changed (on a casual basis), or casually used, then I would most likely record that as an AKA. I am sure others may do it differently, and will offer their suggestions as well. Charles -Original Message- From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 6:01 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) Not to open a can of worms, but I have a related question. This is not a gender changing, but a gender-name changing. I.e. I have an ancestor born as Mark Paul Carneal. He decided Mark was too common a name, so he changed to a gender neutral name. He changed his name to Kelly Jessie Carneal. Everyone who didn't know him assumed he was a girl! Now my question, is there a way to indicate a name change in Legacy so that notes referring to him *before* his name change used Mark Paul, but notes referring to him *after* his name change uses Kelly Jessie? I doubt it, at least not one I could find. Anyone else? Thank you. Robert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sort Problem in Chronological View
Hi Leo, Yes, I have used the set order button to place them in the order that I want them, however, the results are not consistent. Each time that Legacy starts up, the order may change, and there appears to be no logic (at least I can't find one) as to why that change occurs. Thanks for your input. Charles -Original Message- From: leo macdonald [mailto:macdonald...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:16 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sort Problem in Chronological View Hi Charles, When you are on the marriage screen have you tried using the set order buttons to move the events up or down to the order in which you want them to appear. In my program I entered the events in the order that you gave first, tried the Chronological view. I then used the set order buttons to place them in the order that you wanted and checked the Chronological view and they were in the proper order that you wanted. Leo From: apple1...@embarqmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Sort Problem in Chronological View Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:25:20 -0400 I apologize if this has been discussed before, however, I have been unable to find an answer in the Help Files, or the LUG Archives. On the marriage screen I have entered the date and place of marriage for husband and wife. Additionally, I have added two marriage events 1) for Marriage License; and 2) for the Marriage Ceremony. When looking at the Chronology View of either Husband or Wife, they are displayed as follows; Note all of the events occurred on the same date and place. Marriage Marriage License Marriage Ceremony Is there any way to sort these so that they display as follows; Marriage License Marriage Ceremony Marriage All events are sorted properly, for both husband and wife, on the Marriage Events screen. Thank you for any assistance, Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sort Problem in Chronological View
Thanks Jenny, that makes sense. I hadn't thought about it that way. Charles -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:04 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sort Problem in Chronological View On 08/07/2011 01:25, Charles Apple wrote: I apologize if this has been discussed before, however, I have been unable to find an answer in the Help Files, or the LUG Archives. On the marriage screen I have entered the date and place of marriage for husband and wife. Additionally, I have added two marriage events 1) for Marriage License; and 2) for the Marriage Ceremony. When looking at the Chronology View of either Husband or Wife, they are displayed as follows; Note all of the events occurred on the same date and place. Marriage Marriage License Marriage Ceremony Is there any way to sort these so that they display as follows; Marriage License Marriage Ceremony Marriage I don't think there is, unless you run a Report in a format you can open in a wordprocessor and manually change the order. When you think about it, the program is doing what you'd expect. The Events on the Marriage screen are Marriage Events and in reports are referred to as something like Events in their marriage were ... so obviously Legacy will mention the Marriage itself first and then go on to detail Events which (it believes) occurred within - not before - the Marriage. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sort Problem in Chronological View
Richard, the specific dates of the marriage and marriage events all occurred on the same date, therefore, any date can be used as long as it is the same date. As for the categories, I assume that the 'Marriage category comes from the actual data entered into the Marriage Information Screen, for two reasons; 1) because its color is different than the other two events; and 2) there are only two events entered into the marriage events, 1) being when they obtained the 'Marriage License,' and 2) the actual 'Marriage Ceremony' being performed. I hope this is a little clearer. Charles -Original Message- From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sort Problem in Chronological View You don't show the marriage 'dates' on your list. We can't answer why it sorts out of order when we have no numbers. I don't understand the catagories. I guess the License will be issued/ordered a few dates before the Ceremony/or same day. What does the 'Marriage' actually mean? Are you possibly refering to the reading of the banns? --- On Fri, 7/8/11, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sort Problem in Chronological View To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 2:04 AM On 08/07/2011 01:25, Charles Apple wrote: I apologize if this has been discussed before, however, I have been unable to find an answer in the Help Files, or the LUG Archives. On the marriage screen I have entered the date and place of marriage for husband and wife. Additionally, I have added two marriage events 1) for Marriage License; and 2) for the Marriage Ceremony. When looking at the Chronology View of either Husband or Wife, they are displayed as follows; Note all of the events occurred on the same date and place. Marriage Marriage License Marriage Ceremony Is there any way to sort these so that they display as follows; Marriage License Marriage Ceremony Marriage Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Sort Problem in Chronological View
I apologize if this has been discussed before, however, I have been unable to find an answer in the Help Files, or the LUG Archives. On the marriage screen I have entered the date and place of marriage for husband and wife. Additionally, I have added two marriage events 1) for Marriage License; and 2) for the Marriage Ceremony. When looking at the Chronology View of either Husband or Wife, they are displayed as follows; Note all of the events occurred on the same date and place. Marriage Marriage License Marriage Ceremony Is there any way to sort these so that they display as follows; Marriage License Marriage Ceremony Marriage All events are sorted properly, for both husband and wife, on the Marriage Events screen. Thank you for any assistance, Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How can this happen?
Jenny, Thank you for this information. I recently switched to a new computer so this is really helpful to me. Fortunately, I still have my old computer, and all of its files. Charles -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] How can this happen? Because I was about to spend about a week away from home and wanted to work on my family file while away - I keep a copy of Legacy on the computer I use when here - I used Dropbox to pass Legacy from home to here. I copied the entire Legacy folder into Dropbox (in one pass, not folder by folder) and having updated Legacy here to the latest version, I copied the Legacy folder from Dropbox over it. I was somewhat surprised - to put it mildly! - when I tried to open my family file and it wasn't there! I went back to the Dropbox folder containing the Legacy folder and sure enough, nearly all the files relating to my current family file were absent! The folder actually *should* contain the files relating to 5 different savings of my family file, as I have saved it and started with a renamed copy every few months. 3 of the 5 databases are complete, but of the most recent 2 (dated 18 Jan and 07 May this year) only the .NC and .TC files are there. As I was working on the 07 May file on Saturday night, closed it down normally and copied the Legacy folder on Sunday morning there is no reason to suppose the full version is happily residing on my home computer, but I won't half be relieved when I go home and satisfy myself that it is! I'm totally baffled, though, how files could just vanish like that. Although when I upgraded from an old computer to a new one a few weeks ago, I also found that several files, sometimes whole sub-folders had somehow failed to copy across. The moral of that story is *hang on to your old computer until you are QUITE sure you have retrieved everything*! Luckily, I have! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Compiler Information Comments
Comments in the Compiler Information field do not print. I checked the LUG Archives and found that in 2007 that Legacy Support confirmed that this feature did not work, and that a problem report had been received. Would I be correct in assuming that this feature has still not been corrected? Thank you for your assistance, Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] speaking of sources
Michelle, The beauty of Legacy is that everyone can enter data based upon their own individual preferences and style. Personally, I never delete a source, even when the information contained in the source has proven to be wrong. Instead, I add the source to a properly titled Disproven event i.e., Disproven Birth Date, Disproven Death Date and detail why and how the particular event was disproven in the Notes section. The Correct source is then applied to the proper event i.e., Birth Date, Death Date. This helps me to provide validly documented information, as well as dispelling some of the wild family traditions, or stories, that have been passed down from generation to generation. This is just my preferred method and 2 cents worth, everyone has perfectly valid and different ways of doing things. Charles -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 2:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] speaking of sources Michelle, I never delete a source unless the information is wrong. I find it very useful to use multiple sources so that I may follow more easily the process by which I uncovered the full information for a person. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergy.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] speaking of sources speaking of assigning sources... I wish that you could delete multiple sources at one time using the windows shortcut (hold down the CTRL button and then select multiple entries) and also add a source to multiple fields (without using the assign to ALL) Many times I use a not so reliable source until I get something better. For example, I might have the IGI as a source for someone full name, birthdate/place of birth and death date/place of death as well as the relationship to his/her parents. Then I get I copy of a death certificate which has all of that info. I have to delete the IGI sources one at at time from the person and then assign the new source to each field one at a time. Another example is if I get info from a verbal interview from someone and then I find documents to back up the information. I tend to delete the interview and insert the more reliable documents. Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheets
Following generally accepted genealogical standards for researching our ancestors leaves plenty of room for all of us to customize our research to reflect our individual preferences. I agree that there could be more options for customizing the Family Group Sheet, however, of the Family Group Sheets that I have seen and worked with for over 20+ years the Legacy Family Group Sheet outshines them all. For that I salute and thank Legacy. Just my 2 cents. Charles -Original Message- From: BMcL Robinson [mailto:b...@vodafone.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:30 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheets Hi Dick I would love to be able to change the style of the Legacy FGS, but reasonably happy with the content (fine tuning options would be good). The Legacy format has far too many lines and boxes - I have set a style for my records with pages with a line around, but otherwise clean. Even with no border the Legacy FGS has lines everywhere (or have I missed the place where you can turn them off?)! It puts me off printing them. Cheers, Brett BMcL Robinson, Hamilton, New Zealand Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] BEPSC Meaning
Richard, I am not a LDS member but I think the B=Baptism, E=End, S=Sealed/Spouse, P=Sealed/Parents, C=Children ordinances. I am not that familiar with them, so I can't explain their meaning. Charles From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 8:25 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] I am curious. What is BEPSC? Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering MRINs
Hi Wendy, Actually, I stated my question incorrectly, it is the MRINs that I am considering renumbering not the RINs. My apologies to the LUG for hijacking Elizabeth's thread, that certainly was not my intention. I have changed the subject line to reflect this new thread. My reason for renumbering MRINs is for filing and indexing of hard copies of Family Group Sheets, within my direct lines, in a numerical based Binder system. This is a system that I have studied for some time, and can be found at http://www.fileyourpapers.com/legacy/legacy.html If anyone has knowledge of this system, I would be interested in the Pro's and Con's of using it. If I do not renumber the MRINs within my Direct Lines the numbers in the index would not be contiguous and would make it more difficult to locate a particular record. Charles -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINs (was: Phantom people - duplicated RINs) Hi Charles, I was considering renumbering some RINs, until this thread came up. Now I am not sure whether to do it or not. What are your reasons for considering renumbering your RINs? These could be important in your decision-making. If it is, as was mentioned earlier, to give someone close to you in your family a lower number, I personally would not bother. The size of the number is quite irrelevant to the relationship to any other person in the database. My partner is number 246 in my database - that is, I entered 245 other people (including myself, of course) before I added him. It means nothing, except that he was the 246th person entered. We'd been together for almost 20 years at that time. My focus was simply elsewhere for a while. Coincidentally, it's an easy number for me to remember, when I want to find him quickly, such as when I'm using the relationship calculator, but that's accidental - and irrelevant, too. Instead look at it this way - at that point, I had 246 people in my database! That was a big number to me at that stage, and a mark of achievement. If we had a child now (that is NOT going to happen!), his/her RIN would be 10752. It says nothing about what that child means to me, it's just a unique number in the file. Nothing else. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering MRINs
Hi Jennifer, Thanks for the additional discussion of this system. Since you have re-numbered many of your MRINs, have you experienced any problems with Phantom RINs, or Phantom MRINs, or any other type of problems? I have read the Help Files and Legacy User's Manual that explains how to do this. I guess my greatest concern is there a downside to renumbering those MRINs? Charles -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 12:50 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering MRINs Hi Charles I use this system and had to re-number many of my MRINS. I may need to do some of them again as it is a long time since I first did it and I recently got a funeral notice for an aunt and found her MRIN was a huge number. Have a look here for a good discussion on the system. http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/organization/mrin-filing-system/ Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering MRINs
Thank you everyone for your input, both pro and con, as well as the suggested use of the User ID field as an alternative. I think I have a better understanding now of what to do, what not to do, and the potential problems that could result if one is not careful. Charles -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 7:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering MRINs I have had the same experience as Bruce - no problems at all. Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] It's official - Legacy 7.5 is now available
I too have been following this thread for a while. If memory serves me correctly, the Legacy Training CD's support what Cynthia stated below. The plethora of information available to us such as family group sheets on LDS, Ancestry, etc. should be viewed as nothing more than Clues or Leads as to where we should focus further research. Therefore, I would think that the burden of Proof is upon the individual researcher utilizing that information. Actually, one of the IGI records helped me to break through a brick wall that I had been struggling with for years. Although the record was not 100% accurate, it did redirect my research to areas that I had previously not thought of and, as a result, was subsequently able to prove the information. Charles From: Cynthia Pursch [mailto:ci...@mckelleb.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:32 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] It's official - Legacy 7.5 is now available I have been watching this for a while now. And quite frankly I disagree. Yes, the family group sheets on LDS and on Ancestry is up to the person who is research, weather they accept what they see is fact or fiction, however, when someone submits their family tree, to whatever site it may be, there is some truth in it, but, for the one researching it, you need to follow through and see if it is fact not fiction. Don’t expect someone that has done the research before to be 100% accurate. Check for yourself if it is true or not. I have for years look at online trees, but if I can’t follow it I do not add it to my tree. But it is a good source as far as breaking down a brick wall if you can follow to prove that the information is correct. For example, if grandma tells you her aunts middle name is Esques or whatever, if you can’t prove it in a document don’t put it in your tree. Cynthia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 upgrade
I have been following the list all day and it appears that some are having problems with the Legacy 7.5 upgrade while others are not. The question I have been trying to answer is, should I upgrade now or wait a few days? I am currently using Legacy Deluxe 7.4.0.45 on a Win XP Desktop. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] place standardization
Kathy, The Standard Finder at http://labs.familysearch.org/ listed the following results: Rochlitz, Leipzig, Sachsen, Germany with ISO CODE DE-SN, and 51.05N, 12.8E It listed many more alternatives, apparently Rochlitz, Germany covers a rather large area. Hope this helps, Charles From: Kathy Meyer [mailto:kmeyer2...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:25 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] place standardization I found the following in one of my files: Rochlitz, Leipzg., Sax. So I click on the icon to go to the Geo Location Database and it gives me Rochlitz, (no county, just blank), Sachsen, Germany So I don't know what the Leipzg. stood for or if it is an important part of the location. What do you think is the appropriate thing to do? I'm sure I have many more similar situations. Is there a way to ADD a standardized location and still keep the original just in case you need those little details somewhere down the line? Thanks, Kathy -- Kathy Meyer To reach a goal you have never before attained, you must do things you have never before done. --Richard G. Scott, Finding the Way Back, Ensign, May 1990, 74 Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ~ Albert Einstein Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template and IGI question
Thank you Jenny, I did as you suggested and found additional information about the particular IGI film, however, I did experience a potential problem that some may wish to be aware of. Instead of searching on a name, I clicked on the IGI Records to search, and entered the Batch Number and Sheet Number which found the particular record that I was looking for, however, when entering the Batch Number, Sheet Number, and entering the Source Call Number into the Film Number field the results were No Items Found. Apparently the Sheet Number and Serial Number are the same, because I found a screen that contained a field for Serial/Sheet Number. The Legacy SourceWriter template does ask for a Reference Number, however, I haven't found a correlation between Serial/Sheet Number and Reference Number. Charles -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 10:50 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template and IGI question The Source Call No is the Film No. If you click through from the IGI Source No to the Film Notes you can get the Title of the Film and the Item No when there is one. (I am really peeved that the new FamilySearch site has no direct link from film number to title of film and often no item number. Sometimes just a placename is given and one finds that the film referred to has records for several churches, so one doesn't even know which at Church the event took place. I have complained!) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
