[LUTE] Time to get new frets
Last time I still used the good old gut frets for both my 7 course and 10. And because I’m from Israel, there’s not really much to check around and I have to order it in bulk and trust my fellow Lutists So, which brand and type you recommend this year? My only real concern is really the shipment (I will pay premium price for premium frets, not going cheap on my lutes!), I require shipment via UPS/FEDex etc, never snail mail. Thank You and have a great new year and stuff. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] I must be getting really old but (da Crema)
I'm 100% there we tabs of da Crema on Cripps and Gerbode websites, but now I can find anything. I'm not sure if I'm getting old or really dumb (or both) I do have the facsmile, but again, I'm really sure I downloaded some tabs from both websites. Please, help me keep myself sane. Or not, don't know what's going on. b.t.w. Italy is great! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Need some more Italian Baroque
Hi guys, I would like some of your recommendations for Italian Baroque music, solo lute, 10 course. I got some Zamboni and M. Galilei but not much for others. I pretty much need something like 3-4 pieces of each composer so I can get to know his music (can’t really do it with one piece) My only two sources for that ATM are from Cripps and Gerbode, cannot purchase any facsimile right now due to serious lack of funds. Thank You all and have a nice week! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: "The Kynges Balade"(??)
thanks all, seems like I'm going blind :-P
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM, David van Ooijen
<[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Musica Britannica Edition (Music at the Court Henry VII) has
two
versions and has this to say in the notes:
This song is also found in Ritson's MS : (first version ff.
136'-137;
second version, ff.141'-142, 'The kynges balade').
David
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On 22 March 2016 at 13:50, Roman Turovsky
<[3][4]r.turov...@gmail.com>
wrote:
So, what's your question really?
There is no problem with Wikipedia here. Google "The Kynges
Balade"
in quotes, and there will be LOTS of sources.
RT
On 3/22/2016 1:25 AM, Omer Katzir wrote:
so, I was looking for a quick lyrics of "Pastime with Good
Company" and
somehow I ended up in wikipedia, now, they claim it also
called
"The
Kynges Balade" however, I couldn't find anything remotely
close
to this
name.
I went through several books, but yet again, nothing in
that
name.
Now, I know wikipedia is full of errors, but this one (if
an
error)
really annoying. Can anyone else give a source to their
claim?
Thanks.
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[LUTE] "The Kynges Balade"(??)
so, I was looking for a quick lyrics of "Pastime with Good Company" and somehow I ended up in wikipedia, now, they claim it also called "The Kynges Balade" however, I couldn't find anything remotely close to this name. I went through several books, but yet again, nothing in that name. Now, I know wikipedia is full of errors, but this one (if an error) really annoying. Can anyone else give a source to their claim? Thanks. -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute
Hi Zak, Finally people paying attention to Galelei family again, I'm looking forward to hear the CD. Do you know if it's going to be possible to buy it at Amazon? On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 7:20 PM, zak ozmo <[1]z_o...@hotmail.com> wrote: Dear Dante, Thank you for your interest. Yes, both Vincenzo Galilei and others speak about equal temperament tuning on the lutes. There are about twelve documented 'well-tempered' tuning systems from the time, and equal temperament is one of them.In case this would be of interest, I wanted to address these exact questions in my article which will be published in the February edition of Early Music. With all best wishes, Zak Mobile:[2](+44/0)7962 449 537 [3]http://www.zakozmo.com > Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 20:53:12 -0500 > To: [4]z_o...@hotmail.com > CC: [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > From: [6]danteros...@gmail.com > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute > > HI Zak - does the Galelei book talk about tuning? As you know, there > were various methods of placing the frets back then, none of which were > exactly equal temperament. maybe the problem is calling it "the well > tempered lute", since "well temperament" such as Bach used in his > keyboard cycle is not equal temperament either. > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:08 PM, zak ozmo <[1][7]z_o...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Dear friends and colleagues, > I am excited to announce the upcoming release of my new solo lute > CD on > Hyperion Records: Vincenzo Galilei: The Well-Tempered Lute: > [1][2][8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1uvffo2bPs > This is the first volume of the fascinating well-tempered lute > section > of Galileis Libro dintavolatura di liuto (1584), covering dances > in > major and minor tonality on the first four steps of the chromatic > scale; Galileis Libro was circulated 138 years before J.S. Bachs > The > Well Tempered Clavier! I hope the recording will be of > interest. > With all best wishes, > Zak Ozmo > [2][3][9]www.zakozmo.com > [3][4][10]www.lavventuralondon.co.uk > -- > References > 1. [5][11]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1uvffo2bPs > 2. [6][12]http://www.zakozmo.com/ > 3. [7][13]http://www.lavventuralondon.co.uk/ > To get on or off this list see list information at > [8][14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:[15]z_o...@hotmail.com > 2. [16]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1uvffo2bPs > 3. [17]http://www.zakozmo.com/ > 4. [18]http://www.lavventuralondon.co.uk/ > 5. [19]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1uvffo2bPs > 6. [20]http://www.zakozmo.com/ > 7. [21]http://www.lavventuralondon.co.uk/ > 8. [22]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [23]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. mailto:z_o...@hotmail.com 2. tel:%28%2B44%2F0%297962%20449%20537 3. http://www.zakozmo.com/ 4. mailto:z_o...@hotmail.com 5. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. mailto:danteros...@gmail.com 7. mailto:z_o...@hotmail.com 8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1uvffo2bPs 9. http://www.zakozmo.com/ 10. http://www.lavventuralondon.co.uk/ 11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1uvffo2bPs 12. http://www.zakozmo.com/ 13. http://www.lavventuralondon.co.uk/ 14. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 15. mailto:z_o...@hotmail.com 16. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1uvffo2bPs 17. http://www.zakozmo.com/ 18. http://www.lavventuralondon.co.uk/ 19. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1uvffo2bPs 20. http://www.zakozmo.com/ 21. http://www.lavventuralondon.co.uk/ 22. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 23. http://omerkatzir.com/
[LUTE] Lilypond to Lutetab?
So , I worked hard to create an arrangement for two flutes, soprano and lute in Lilypond, but for myself I want a pure lutetab version which is much easier to read. Is there a way to convert it or something or I'll have to write it all again? Thanks -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Quick and temporary fix
I'll just give you an update on the situation. Seems like I had really
bad luck yesterday, I guess being sick+stressed wasn't really good for
clear thinking. I guess that's why every single string I used snapped,
most of these strings were 0.50+, including the frets.
I've taken off one of the D4 strings and it's fine, I already ordered
new strings. So I pretty much combined all of the tips you gave me :-P
Thank again for the help
and have a merry Christmas!
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 6:44 PM, David van Ooijen
<[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, that was rather thoughtless of me. Sorry about that. The
best you
could do with the octave of 7 would be to make a reentrant g on
1.
David
On Thursday, 24 December 2015, Matthew Daillie
<[1][2]dail...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
I hadn't read this reply properly but the octave on the 7th
course
is going to be far too large a diameter to be used on the top
course. If you have an octave on the 4th course, that would be
OK.
I don't mean to sound patronizing but it really is a good idea
to
have a stock of spare top strings around, especially if you are
doing concerts.
Best
Matthew
On 24/12/2015 10:06, David van Ooijen wrote:
Take the octave string from 7, or go to your local fishing
gear
store
and buy a spool of nylon/carbon/anything with more or les
the
correct
diameter.
***
David van Ooijen
[1][3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
[2][2][4]www.davidvanooijen.nl
***
On 24 December 2015 at 09:49, Omer Katzir
<[3][5]kome...@gmail.com>
wrote:
my G string snapped today, the only string I got left
to
replace
it
will never reach G4. I have a recital next week and I
need
a
quick fix
until the new strings arrive.
anyone got any tips?
it's a 10 course lute, C2, D2, D#/E2, F2, G2, C3, F3,
A3,
D4, G4
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[LUTE] Re: Quick and temporary fix
"Take the octave string from 7, or go to your local fishing gear store and buy a spool of nylon/carbon/anything with more or les the correct diameter." The 7 octave wont reach G4, tried that. And there are no fishing stores here, so that's also not an option. The string I have On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Edward Chrysogonus Yong <[1]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote: 12 gauge fluorocarbon fishing line is 0.33 mm and works ok for a top string - it's an ok top A4 on my 54.5mm Renaissance guitar at 440, a bit tight but will probably be usable as a G4 on a Renaissance lute. II?III? I.I>>IuI-oIII?I 1/2I^1I-oII 1/2 II+-III'II?I 1/4IuI-I?I 1/2 IuI-o IuI-I|II 1/2I?I IuI 1/4IuI IuIII 1/4II,I.. HA| litterA| electronicA| ab iPhono missA| sunt. aeCURe>>aaeuae>>P:c, 1/4eae-oe-aaa 3/4iPhonea This e-mail was sent from my iPhone. > On 24 Dec 2015, at 5:06 PM, David van Ooijen <[2]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Take the octave string from 7, or go to your local fishing gear store >and buy a spool of nylon/carbon/anything with more or les the correct >diameter. > >*** >David van Ooijen >[1][3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com >[2][4]www.davidvanooijen.nl > ******* >On 24 December 2015 at 09:49, Omer Katzir <[3][5]kome...@gmail.com> wrote: > > my G string snapped today, the only string I got left to replace > it > will never reach G4. I have a recital next week and I need a > quick fix > until the new strings arrive. > anyone got any tips? > it's a 10 course lute, C2, D2, D#/E2, F2, G2, C3, F3, A3, D4, G4 > -- > Omer Katzir > The Silent Troubadour > [1][4][6]http://omerkatzir.com > -- > References > 1. [5][7]http://omerkatzir.com/ > To get on or off this list see list information at > [6][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >-- > > References > >1. mailto:[9]davidvanooi...@gmail.com >2. [10]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ >3. mailto:[11]kome...@gmail.com > 4. [12]http://omerkatzir.com/ >5. [13]http://omerkatzir.com/ >6. [14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [15]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 2. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 3. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 4. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 5. mailto:kome...@gmail.com 6. http://omerkatzir.com/ 7. http://omerkatzir.com/ 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 10. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 11. mailto:kome...@gmail.com 12. http://omerkatzir.com/ 13. http://omerkatzir.com/ 14. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 15. http://omerkatzir.com/
[LUTE] Quick and temporary fix
my G string snapped today, the only string I got left to replace it will never reach G4. I have a recital next week and I need a quick fix until the new strings arrive. anyone got any tips? it's a 10 course lute, C2, D2, D#/E2, F2, G2, C3, F3, A3, D4, G4 -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Quick and temporary fix
ok...after trying several different strings, taken from the 7 course
and fret gut, I came to the conclusion that there's something wrong
with the lute today. For some reason it refuses to reach G4 without
snapping the strings.
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Omer Katzir <[1]kome...@gmail.com>
wrote:
"Take the octave string from 7, or go to your local fishing
gear
store
and buy a spool of nylon/carbon/anything with more or les the
correct
diameter."
The 7 octave wont reach G4, tried that. And there are no fishing
stores
here, so that's also not an option. The string I have
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Edward Chrysogonus Yong
<[1][2]edward.y...@gmail.com> wrote:
12 gauge fluorocarbon fishing line is 0.33 mm and works ok for
a top
string - it's an ok top A4 on my 54.5mm Renaissance guitar at
440, a
bit tight but will probably be usable as a G4 on a Renaissance
lute.
II?III? I.I>>IuI-oIII?I 1/2I^1I-oII 1/2 II+-III'II?I 1/4IuI-I?I
1/2
IuI-o IuI-I|II 1/2I?I IuI 1/4IuI IuIII 1/4II,I..
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aeCURe>>aaeuae>>P:c, 1/4eae-oe-aaa 3/4iPhonea
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> On 24 Dec 2015, at 5:06 PM, David van Ooijen
<[2][3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Take the octave string from 7, or go to your local fishing
gear
store
> and buy a spool of nylon/carbon/anything with more or les
the
correct
> diameter.
>
> ***
> David van Ooijen
> [1][3][4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
> [2][4][5]www.davidvanooijen.nl
> *******
> On 24 December 2015 at 09:49, Omer Katzir
<[3][5][6]kome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> my G string snapped today, the only string I got left
to
replace
> it
> will never reach G4. I have a recital next week and I
need a
> quick fix
> until the new strings arrive.
> anyone got any tips?
> it's a 10 course lute, C2, D2, D#/E2, F2, G2, C3, F3,
A3, D4,
G4
> --
> Omer Katzir
> The Silent Troubadour
> [1][4][6][7]http://omerkatzir.com
> --
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>
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18. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.co
[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque
Hi guys, Took me some time, I have check all of your recommendations and came up with a great program. Now I just need to finish arraging all these papers :-P Thank you all for your help! On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Nancy Carlin [1]na...@nancycarlinassociates.com wrote: Trinity O.16.2 is in the microfilm library, but not in the catalog yet. It's one of the films that were given to the LSA when musicologist John Ward cleaned house and got rid of things he was not going to use again. There is a list of all those films in an old Quarterly. Nancy Hi Nancy, Dd.4.22 is available here: [2]http://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DD-4-00022/1 Also, can you let us know how to get Trinity O.16.2 from the LSA library? I cannot find it in the microfilm catalog. Regards David -Original Message- From: [3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Nancy Carlin Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:21 AM To: Omer Katzir; List LUTELIST Subject: [LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque I have spent the last couple of years exploring 10 course music. There are some really nice pieces from the Rettenwert manuscript available on my Grounds and Divisions web site at [5]http://groundsanddivisions.info/rettenwert.html My other favorite manuscripts are: ML Lute Book - it used to be called the Sturt Lute Book and is a great source of info on right hand fingering and ornaments. It is available on Sarge Gerbode's web site at [6]http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_joh n_sturt_lut e_book/ Dd.4.22 - also English music with lots of ornaments You can get this one from the LSA Microfilm Library Trinity O.16.2 - More English music with some unusual ornament signs. I borrowed a digital version from the LSA Microfilm Library Nancy Guitar - Check Renaissance Lute - Check Baroque - todo Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great fun.A Now it is time to put my 10 course into use (until now I just played for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I came)A So thank you all again! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1][7]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. [8]http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Nancy Carlin Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA [10]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org PO Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA 925 / 686-5800 [11]www.groundsanddivisions.info [12]www.nancycarlinassociates.com -- Nancy Carlin Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA [13]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org PO Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA 925 / 686-5800 [14]www.groundsanddivisions.info [15]www.nancycarlinassociates.com -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [16]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. mailto:na...@nancycarlinassociates.com 2. http://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DD-4-00022/1 3. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. http://groundsanddivisions.info/rettenwert.html 6. http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lut 7. http://omerkatzir.com/ 8. http://omerkatzir.com/ 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 10. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org/ 11. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 12. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 13. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org/ 14. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 15. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ 16. http://omerkatzir.com/
[LUTE] Off to the Baroque
Guitar - Check Renaissance Lute - Check Baroque - todo Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great fun.A Now it is time to put my 10 course into use (until now I just played for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I came)A So thank you all again! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [1]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. http://omerkatzir.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tuner with preset temperaments
Haven't seen the original post, but if you're looking for a real one [1]https://www.turbo-tuner.com/ is what I use, it has options to save your own temperaments and pretty easy to useA On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Robert Clair [2]rcl...@elroberto.com wrote: On Mar 7, 2015, at 5:36 AM, Anthony Hind [3]agno3ph...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob, it sounds as though it combines the best of the expensive Peterson strobe and the temperaments of cleartune, but might it be a little cluttered? Has anyone done a comparison? Does it have the same pitch calibration possibilities as the Cleartune? Regards Anthony On 5 mars 2015, at 15:31, Robert Clair [4]rcl...@elroberto.com wrote: If you have an iPhone or iPad ( or iPod Touch) check out Pitchlab: [5]https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pitchlab-guitar-tuner-free/id7328 50624?mt=8 Basic app is free but you'll probably want to spend the three bucks and get the full set of displays. Easy to set up, lots of useful things, especially a strobe tuner display. a|Bob To get on or off this list see list information at [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [7]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. https://www.turbo-tuner.com/ 2. mailto:rcl...@elroberto.com 3. mailto:agno3ph...@yahoo.com 4. mailto:rcl...@elroberto.com 5. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pitchlab-guitar-tuner-free/id732850624?mt=8 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 7. http://omerkatzir.com/
[LUTE] Re: Cantio Lodomerica XXX
My grandmother was from the Ukraine, so high five from me. On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:25 PM, [1]r.turov...@gmail.com [2]r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: For the self-evident reason: the 1st new piece of the year is a setting, with diminuition, of the national anthem of Ukraine: [3]http://torban.org/lodomericae/audio/473inno.mp3 [4]http://torban.org/lodomericae/images/473inno1d.pdf [5]http://torban.org/lodomericae/images/473inno2c.pdf [6]http://torban.org/lodomericae/images/473baroque-a.pdf Enjoy! Amities, RT To get on or off this list see list information at [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour [8]http://omerkatzir.com -- References 1. mailto:r.turov...@gmail.com 2. mailto:r.turov...@gmail.com 3. http://torban.org/lodomericae/audio/473inno.mp3 4. http://torban.org/lodomericae/images/473inno1d.pdf 5. http://torban.org/lodomericae/images/473inno2c.pdf 6. http://torban.org/lodomericae/images/473baroque-a.pdf 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. http://omerkatzir.com/
[LUTE] Re: how to amplify lute?
Well, we don't have any good microphone there and there's no budget to buy any (working on donations) if it was for my personal use, I would buy a nice condenser. I'm not really sure what was the problem with the guitar last time, we have really old gear there, it worked before the concert, and stopped, haven't check it since... On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Tobiah t...@tobiah.org wrote: On 01/27/2015 01:06 PM, Omer Katzir wrote: Not permanently, just for one night. Which option do you think will be the best? Using a mic didn't worked out with my guitar (performing in the same place, same setting, only with lute this time) I predict that the pickup that you linked to is going to sound 'tinny', emphasizing the midrange and sounding something like playing over the telephone. What was it about the microphone that didn't work out for you in the past? Was it feedback problems? You will want to use a decent cardioid condenser rather close to the instrument. I can't imagine an omni or dynamic mic doing the job, but a good condenser is the best I've found for classical guitar where natural sound is the goal. If feedback is the problem you could try mixing the mic with a contact pickup for some of the best of both worlds. Tobiah I have an option to buy those pickups with a clip, but I'm not sure they'll work. (link attached) Ideas are recommendations are welcome. http://www.music-center.co.il/p/1125/%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%A7-%D7%90%D7%A4-%D7%9C%D7%A7%D7%9C%D7%90%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%AA-power-beat-pu-35 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour http://omerkatzir.com
[LUTE] Re: how to amplify lute?
It's not for loud music, but I want to make sure everyone in the room can hear it, I'm not that sure my lute can do it alone (my guitar could) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] how to amplify lute?
Not permanently, just for one night. Which option do you think will be the best? Using a mic didn't worked out with my guitar (performing in the same place, same setting, only with lute this time) I have an option to buy those pickups with a clip, but I'm not sure they'll work. (link attached) Ideas are recommendations are welcome. http://www.music-center.co.il/p/1125/%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%A7-%D7%90%D7%A4-%D7%9C%D7%A7%D7%9C%D7%90%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%AA-power-beat-pu-35 -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour http://omerkatzir.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: December's lute
I play Ballard, but his works are very similar to one another, almost the same (I'm not next to his book right now to give examples) He is a good practice to right hand. On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote: Hi All, A new page on my site features my most recent projects - this time a multirib10c lute strung with KF basses and double top string, with photos and soundfile: http://www.luteshop.co.uk/Latest_work.html More photos of the construction process can be seen on my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/luteshop Why do people not play Ballard more often? Best wishes, Martin --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour http://omerkatzir.com
[LUTE] Introduction to early music
Hello fellow music lovers around the world, After a vey successful guitar concert featuring piece from the golden age I was asked for another concert, this time with my lute. So I've started to build a program fit to the modern ear, I've already several pieces (2Xfantasy by Luis Milan, no.1 and 3, tasar de corde by dalza, etc), I need at least 10 pieces, so I will like to ask your opinion. Which pieces (not dances and not songs - I can't sing) do you think will be great for it? The crowd never heard early music before or seen a lute. Thank you very much and have a great week! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour http://omerkatzir.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Introduction to early music
Yes. I forgot the most important thing and it's the time period. As I'm going to play on my 7 course I think it should be from around 1400 to 1600 so around the late medieval and renaissance, give or take few years) On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Omer Katzir kome...@gmail.com wrote: Hello fellow music lovers around the world, After a vey successful guitar concert featuring piece from the golden age I was asked for another concert, this time with my lute. So I've started to build a program fit to the modern ear, I've already several pieces (2Xfantasy by Luis Milan, no.1 and 3, tasar de corde by dalza, etc), I need at least 10 pieces, so I will like to ask your opinion. Which pieces (not dances and not songs - I can't sing) do you think will be great for it? The crowd never heard early music before or seen a lute. Thank you very much and have a great week! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour http://omerkatzir.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour http://omerkatzir.com
[LUTE] Time for new strings
So, my last G string snapped at me few days ago leaving me without one for my 7 course and bleeding finger it was Aquila nylgut. Now I'm looking for new strings, I'm not sure if to buy the same or differant type or firm and I will like your recommandations. My needs are to get the best and most accurate Renissance sound and at the same time be usful in our Israeli weather, and of course, somewhere I can buy online and ship to Israel. I want for both my 7 course and 10 course lutes. Thank you very much and have a nice week! -- Omer Katzir The Silent Troubadour http://omerkatzir.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Toccata I
Happy to share with you another composition http://omerkatzir.com/a-new-composition-toccata-i-lute/ Will be even happier to hear your interpretation for it, not a must. Thank You and have a nice weekend Omer Katzir http://omerkatzir.com -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Compositions
So, you composed a piece (lets say it’s for lute), you enjoy it so much and playing it is like reaching the plains of Elysium. But you also want others to enjoy this sweet sparkling music. In todays world you can just put it online and spread it freely like the joyful wind. Or, you can go back in time, bind several of your heavenly pieces together and sell. Of course, you can always keep it to yourself. So, What are you guys (and girls) doing with your compositions? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Spanish Italian tablatures
It goes like that, I dont have a scanner so I cant scan any tablatures. I also cant run lutetab due to some bug (will report it later, I promise!) Basically what I need is a tablatures for lute, one spanish and one Italian, both have to be with 7-10 courses. It doesnt have to be a musical pieces, but just examples on how to read both systems. Something like the following link http://www.tenstringguitar.info/images/baroque_lute.jpg I will greatly appreciate your help! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: music slowing software?
VLC can do that On Dec 10, 2013, at 7:27 PM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote: When learning music by ear, it helps to be able to slow down fast passages to help discern the notes. Post vinyl LP, and Marantz 'Watergate cassette recorder, does anyone know of simple soft water that can do this? I am a mac user (but can run windows on VMWare if I have to). Thanks! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Online Tuner
It's been a while since I wrote here, been about 6 months since I played my lutes. Now that I have time again and wife finished her degree, I can go back and play. But I found out that my tuner is out of juice and to buy new battery might take me some time (well, a week) So, I need online tuner, a good one, one that can tune my lute to 415 (or at least can detect sounds) Please help me. Yours, Omer Lumikor Katzir To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Require digital copy of two/three pieces
So far I could not find a digital copy (still looking), prefer is staff notation but can handle everything. The pieces are Prelude 24 and/or 26 by Mertel and a Ballet by Ballard, page 27, premier chant Need for some study, only have printed copy I cannot scan. I will reward with kind words and a hug. Thank You, Lumikor of the Catshire aka, Omer Katzir -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lute notation
I know you can do it in Lilypond. Not sure about Finale, I never understood how to work with it for my needs. On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Bruno Correia wrote: Does anyone know how to use Finale or any similar program to edit a lute transcription similar to what Ken Gilbert did on Kapsperger? In fact it is not called a transcription but rather a transliteration. It can be seen here: [1]http://www.utorpheus.com/utorpheus/product_info.php?products_id=73 It seems to be a great idea to aply this concept to lute transcriptions! -- References 1. http://www.utorpheus.com/utorpheus/product_info.php?products_id=73 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Looking for Student Lute in UK...
Bought my two lutes from JM Instruments http://www.jminstruments.com/ I'm very pleased with both lutes you can also listen and see my 10 course lute, on the website, go to renaissance lutes, Hans Burkholtzer (NE48) the pictures are my lute. And that's how she sounds: http://www.youtube.com/user/jamarriage#p/u/16/uaUYLwrODAQ My 7 course is based of Frei: http://www.youtube.com/user/jamarriage#p/u/31/C13DFZr8P8Q More from myself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o_BSuoizOE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VIAoo1V-8w On Oct 5, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Thomas Schall wrote: I've heard very much good about Renatus Lechner's student lutes: http://www.renatus-lechner.de/index_en.html Renzo Salvador builds student lutes, too: http://www.renzosalvador.be/lutren.html Best wishes Thomas Am Mittwoch, 5. Oktober 2011, 10.43:57 schrieb Julian Templeman: Dear all, As the subject says, I'm new to the lute, looking for a 7 or 8 course student instrument, and have a budget of about 1200UKP. So if anyone has, or knows of, a suitable instrument for sale, please do get in touch. Many thanks, julian -- Thomas Schall Doerflistrasse 2 CH-6078 Lungern +41 41 678 00 79 lauten...@lautenist.de -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Bach's lute suites
* on the net, not next. On Jan 27, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Omer Katzir wrote: Does anyone know if there's a copy with staff notation free on the next? I believe I saw a link for these pieces once here on the list, but I'm not really sure. Thanks Omer Katzir -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Volta by Ballard
Does anyone have a copy of the Volta in page 90 of Primier Livre (1611) with staff notation? I don't have a scanner and my copy is filled with performance notes. Need a clean copy of that. I believe it is the fifth volta. Thank You all To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Lute sighting - World of Warcraft
Place: The Black Temple, old raid (but one of the best) Looks like 7 course, no idea where Blizzard took the design. Nicely made... http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/1_143256096.jpg To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] My god...my lute is on strike!
It goes like this, Yesterday I drove to the other side of the country with my 10c, she never goes out unless i'm going to a lesson, and it was hot day, very hot day. First I wanted to tune, and *SNAP* first string snapped right on my face. Lucky for me, I had two more strings with me, so I tried to replace it. But, my lute didn't wanted to... these strings also snapped and the peg gave me hard time spinning it. Finally we gave up and played on Levi's lute (which is also 10c, but much different then mine) I said ok, she might need some rest, so I wanted to replace that string today, and give her a rest until tomorrow. But no! she still don't want the string on her, snapped again, right into my eye! The heat, and the cold also changed my frets, which is bad...but I can handle the frets. I can't handle to be stringless. Any suggestions on how to solve the strike? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: New frets
I'm also going to buy new frets, but i still don't know which diameter to take now i use 0.95-85-75-65 on my 10c and 85-75-65-55 on my 7c. But i think they are not too thick for my taste. So in fact I have two questions about it (think I already asked, but I can't remember my own name today :-P ) 1. Moving to thicker frets need any special preparation? I think I will go for 110,100,95,80 for 10c and 100, 90, 80, 70 for 7c. 2. well...after remembering it, i don't have second question... On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:13 AM, sterling price wrote: You can also tighten loose frets by doing a similar thing: pull the fret toward the nut, then loosen the knot and burn it down a few millimeters. Then put the fret back in place and it will be tighter. -Sterling Subject: [LUTE] Re: New frets Something you can do to improve worn frets if you're short on time: loosen the fret a little by sliding it toward the nut, then turn it slightly on the neck so the worn parts are between courses. Slide it back to pitch. Leonard Williams On 2/14/10 6:22 PM, nedma...@aol.com nedma...@aol.com wrote: Having just replaced all the frets on an instrument for the first time (buzzing problems) I was pleasantly surprised at the difference in the clarity of the sound of the instrument. A significant increase, unless my ears are mistaken. (Since I bought the instrument used, I don't know how long the old frets had been on).Thinking about it, this does make sense, the new frets being harder than the old worn frets. I'm wondering if performing players find it beneficial to change their frets often. . . Ned -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] So, what you consider a must have publication?
The title say it all, as lute players, which publications you see as must have? and of course, way? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Here's a real question to all the fret gut users
well, actually it's more like three... 1. how often do you replace a gut fret? (on my 10c they still new, on the old one it took me about a year or so) 2. Do you use different fret sizes on different frets or doing everything the same size? (and what size will it be if you use the same) 3. Are you having a nice day? Poor Omer can't use gut strings in Israel :-( To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Here's a real question to all the fret gut users
That explain why my nylon frets are s (can't write that word here) but it's just a fishing wire... Well, I think I'm going to refret and restring my 7c with some of the new frets and strings i boguht for it (in May...) I really like to try gut strings, but the weather here in israel is sssos (different word, still can't write) and it screws up everything. But I think I will try it...one day. On Oct 14, 2009, at 6:22 PM, dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote: well, actually it's more like three... 1. how often do you replace a gut fret? (on my 10c they still new, on the old one it took me about a year or so) I replaced the ones that came on the instrument when I bought it used, that was 6 years ago. Not playing it much these days tho. 2. Do you use different fret sizes on different frets graduated, this is not my preference, it is what the neck angle requires. Each insturment will be different as to what it needs. 3. Are you having a nice day? The sun is shining, I ought to be. Poor Omer can't use gut strings in Israel :-( ?!? you could try making your own... -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] anyone know this piece?
found it on a very old backup drive...looks nice, not sure it's Renaissance. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Django on a Mac using VirtualBox?
Ed, in the virtual device window while windows running go to: devices and then: Install guest Additions, try to see if it solves the problem. On Sep 17, 2009, at 5:42 PM, dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote: On Sep 16, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Miles Dempster wrote: I run Windows XP under Parallels on my Intel Mac.It allows me to run any Windows application, So do all these solutions require Windows? Django expects to interact with library code provided with windows, it needs windows or something that will behave like windows; the mac OS doesnt provide that, so you need to instal something clever, wine has been mentioned, there may be other stuf. The underlying issue is lack of a generic GUI that developers can write for and expect to function on at least the major platforms. over 90% of an applications code deals with proprietary OS API interface issues, most of that is the GUI, tho some is events, filesystem and other OS- specific stuff. For obvious profit-motivated reasons none of the commercial OS's want to encourage unification, and few of the free-ware efforts managed to get off the ground. Apple's minority share of the marketplace encouraged it to take a shot, but its several efforts didnt get going. Java came close, and still survives, but has a weakness in that the several java machine implementations are not equivalent (as was intended). Besides the obvious software issues, there are also hardware issues - each processor chip has its own way of representing dat, doing calculations, interfacing with hardware ... Different conentions have developed independantly for how one spells a filename, how one express a filename path, how one refers to volumes; what meta-data is recorded for a file (acccess permission, touch dates, program/icon associativity). Over time the capabilitys of each OS are brought closer to each other by the one thing they have in common, the generic user; but it takes time for evolution to flatten it all out. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Edward Martin/who knows?
I Edward, sorry all for the late response. There are few things bothering me with the interpretation, One, it's a technical issue, but there are too many clicks and ticks might be bad recording or something, I don't know if you have other recording with the same issue. Second, the interpretation itself. In his book, Milan did not write any repeat signs in the piece. And there is no reason to repeat the whole piece again. It doesn't make any sense to repeat something you shouldn't. Also, A fantasy should tell a story, and with every note sound the same as the previous one, it sound more like a dry dance then a fantasy. Finally, you play too many Arpeggios, it is true Milan doesn't write anything about that in Fantasy I, but this tool should use in proper places, just using them too much will make it sound like a student recording. I guess you learned a lot during those seven years , and as you said your self, you will probably play it differently. For me, it sounds like something by sting. Hope you're not felling bad and I guess you probably looking for feedbacks like mine. Thank you, Omer On Aug 12, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Edward Martin wrote: Hello, Omer. I recorded it 7 years ago. Please feel free to make any comments, or questions. As it was 7 years ago, I would probably approach a different interpretation today. Thanks. ed At 06:34 AM 8/12/2009, Omer Katzir wrote: --===AVGMAIL-5A471280=== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://magnatune.com/artists/edward_martin I really want to comment on his interpretation to Fantasia I by Luis Milan but I can't find any details beside Magnatune. Thanks! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --===AVGMAIL-5A471280=== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryAVGMAIL-16136D41=== --===AVGMAIL-16136D41=== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: AVG certification No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.52/2298 - Release Date: 08/12/09 0= 6:09:00 --===AVGMAIL-16136D41===-- --===AVGMAIL-5A471280===-- Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com voice: (218) 728-1202 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871ref=name http://www.myspace.com/edslute
[LUTE] Edward Martin/who knows?
http://magnatune.com/artists/edward_martin I really want to comment on his interpretation to Fantasia I by Luis Milan but I can't find any details beside Magnatune. Thanks! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Edward Martin/who knows?
I should really get some sleep...thanks man! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2009, at 14:40, David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: He's on the list. You might want to know there's a vihuela list, too, btw, although much of the threads cross both lists, and the vihuela list is usually taken over by conversations about anything from baroque guitars to ukeleles. Just another room in the same bar. David On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Omer Katzir[2]kome...@gmail.com wrote: [3]http://magnatune.com/artists/edward_martin I really want to comment on his interpretation to Fantasia I by Luis Milan but I can't find any details beside Magnatune. -- *** David van Ooijen [4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [5]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. mailto:kome...@gmail.com 3. http://magnatune.com/artists/edward_martin 4. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 5. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] For all your music major/minor/major 7th
I'm going to start my PLA course in Music Theory of renaissance And I wonder what you have learned when you learned this course. Or if you haven't what do you think is a must have martial for a course like this (I'll probably already have almost of stuff, but more is better) Thanks all Omer (In a lesson, writing to you instead of teaching) -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: For all your music major/minor/major 7th
Species counterpoint...? wow...that's late On Aug 9, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Sal Salvaggio wrote: Well - species counterpoint mainly --- On Sun, 8/9/09, Omer Katzir kome...@gmail.com wrote: From: Omer Katzir kome...@gmail.com Subject: [LUTE] For all your music major/minor/major 7th To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 9:31 AM I'm going to start my PLA course in Music Theory of renaissance And I wonder what you have learned when you learned this course. Or if you haven't what do you think is a must have martial for a course like this (I'll probably already have almost of stuff, but more is better) Thanks all Omer (In a lesson, writing to you instead of teaching) -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So dolce e il tormento for voice+lute
I didn't fully understood that version. but i'm going to see everything sent from this group and see my best course of action. I think it was david who recummend something that seems logical to me. I also looked at Arto's stuff, its looks the same thing as I wrote. but i'm not sure how it will sound with a singer. I'll check the other links now. Maybe Arto's paper have the best result with some modification. On Jun 22, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Jelma van Amersfoort wrote: What about Rocky Mjos' version on the Early Guitar Ning site? http://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos Best, Jelma On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Rob MacKillopluteplay...@googlemail.com wrote: I haven't had the time (nor inclination) to look at it, but parallels, missing accidentals...sounds highly ' period authentic' to me! Rob 2009/6/22 David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Lex van Sante[2]lvansa...@wanadoo.nl wrote: the continuo realisation. Who is Jorge Gaete C. anyway? Someone kind enough to share his copy of some piano realisation he happens to have with us. But not someone with the knowledge or experience to make a 'proper' continuo part. What you see if what you get, which no doubt is useful to many. It's better to play these pieces from just the bass line, obviously, but usually we can distill one form editions like these, so they can be useful for us, too. David Lex Op 22 jun 2009, om 11:50 heeft dc het volgende geschreven: Mathias Roesel ecrit: Yes, particularly as measure is wrong (G minor instead of B flat major) and all final 4-3 suspensions are left out. Not to mention the d sharp m. 14... Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [5]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. mailto:lvansa...@wanadoo.nl 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 5. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] So dolce e il tormento for voice+lute
I saw a video of this piece @ YouTube (can't link right now but it's there) with nice lute intro. Does anyone know where I can find tabs for this piece? I found the voice part with google, but nothing for lute that I could find. If there's a book with it, I'm willing to buy, nk reason not too... Sent from my iPhone To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dear guys and gals
I just got a change of plans and I will stay only in London, for now it's the 18th to the 22nd, but might be more. Will probably stay in an Ibis style hotel, that's depends on the government :-D So, I guess my dream will come true, and I will make the King Henry the VIII tour. On Apr 25, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Jelma van Amersfoort wrote: Hi Omer There are ferries from Zeebrugge and Oostende to Dover and Harwich. And you can fly from Brussels to London. But the Eurostar is very fast and comfortable. Eurostar would be my first choice in your cirumstances. For Hotels in London, I recently stayed in an Ibis Hotel in the City (google Ibis Hotel London City) that had very nice food. It is from a French company, that must be why. Best wishes, Jelma van Amersfoort On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Omer Katzir kome...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be in the United Kingdom from May 20th to the 22nd, I'm picking up my new lute from James Marriage in Reading. I will also like to run a small Henry the VIII tour, birth, death, buried. I will stay in London (don't know where yet, any good hotels up there?) If some want to join me, you are most welcome. if any one can recommend on a good hotel (3 starts+) it will also help. I'll come from Belgium (I'll be there from the 18th for a good concert at Brussels) in the Eurostar (re there any other ways to cross?), and if any one is interested, you can join me there too :-) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Dear guys and gals
I'll be in the United Kingdom from May 20th to the 22nd, I'm picking up my new lute from James Marriage in Reading. I will also like to run a small Henry the VIII tour, birth, death, buried. I will stay in London (don't know where yet, any good hotels up there?) If some want to join me, you are most welcome. if any one can recommend on a good hotel (3 starts+) it will also help. I'll come from Belgium (I'll be there from the 18th for a good concert at Brussels) in the Eurostar (re there any other ways to cross?), and if any one is interested, you can join me there too :-) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lyrics for right-left writing systems such as hebrew or arabic
yep. that's it. On Apr 17, 2009, at 10:00 PM, dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com said: The usual way is to set each syllable over its corresponding note, so that the words are diced, ple am ex for this, Like , did you mean this al-lig-an _av-ah is set under music like this? ah-av_ an-ig-al an unnatural reordering of each syllable. Also, is the european conventional usage of hyphen employed in arabic and hebrew typesetting? -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Greensleeves
I don't think you should play it at all, it got nothing to do with Henry the VIII, cat bless his name. HOWEVER, I agree with Valery On Apr 2, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Sauvage Valéry wrote: Just take the William Ballet Lute book version, play ABAB as long as the song goes on the same melody... works just fine... Val - Original Message - From: Peter Jones pjones...@toucansurf.com To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: [LUTE] Greensleeves Hi all, A singer I work with wants to do Greensleeves - I usually refuse, but because of the (not necessarily accurate) associations with Henry VIII and it being the anniversary of his accession, I have capitulated. Does anyone have a decent version that they could send me? I'd be very grateful not to have to make my own version! Thanks, Peter To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Some half-offtopic
I am trying to send money for our friends at tree edition for some books I bought. but with my paypal account I'm getting error that I the amount is over my limit (although its not...) Is there a way to pay with paypal but with out signing up? just to put the details and that it? Thank you guys. going to play :-D To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] nice for me and thank you all :-)
For the past two hours I've replaced the frets in my lute for a nylon frets, old b string for guitar. It took some time, and I replaced only four for now (my hands hurts) but at least in know how to handle that. Now, from the front It doesn't looks very weird, just a neck with frets. in the back, it doesn't look really good. I have to use pieces of tape to stretch the fret. But its not s bad...I think I can handle that...at least until May. Thank you everybody! I will supply pictures if you want :-) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Hi guys, nylon frets...
For me, it not much of a problem with higher action. it not like i'm going to use 5cm frets :-D I have 0.60mm fishing wire, but it looks very very thin, should I try with that too? and how? I'm still not sure how to handle the nylon frets I have. But I will try some of your recommendation tomorrow. perhaps today. I'm playing Fallout Tactics too much. I also think gut is much better, but I don't have extra until May. On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Not really true that thicker frets have 'no drawback' - the use of thinner frets (but still graduated by the same amount from lowest to highest) allows the lute to be set more 'fine' than with thicker frets ie the distance required to depress the string to the fingerboard is less. Conversely, if one so desired, the use of even thicker frets (but still with the same amount of overall graduation) would result in a very significant increase in the distance required to depress a string and concomitant difficulties of execution. MH --- On Wed, 18/3/09, damian dlugolecki dam...@teleport.com wrote: From: damian dlugolecki dam...@teleport.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: Hi guys, nylon frets... To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 18 March, 2009, 3:47 AM The projection of the string is determined by the height of the nut and the holes in the bridge. If the neck has a set or slight warp, thicker frets will be called for and that thickness will be determined by the projection of the strings. I used to use much thinner frets but as Dan Winheld has noted, there is no drawback whatever to using thicker frets. Cordially, Damian Why don't you try a much thinner 9th fret (say 0.50mm) which not only fits with Dowland's fretting advice (the principal historic source of fret sizes) but would also enable you to have smaller lower frets, say down to 0.90mm and thereby set the lute 'fine'? MH --- On Tue, 17/3/09, damian dlugolecki [1] [1]dam...@teleport.com wrote: From: damian dlugolecki [2][2]dam...@teleport.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: Hi guys, nylon frets... To: Daniel Winheld [3]dwinh...@comcast.net, [4]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, 17 March, 2009, 3:52 AM Using the thinnest frets that you can get away with is a basic premise for fretting, but there are many lutes where the neck has set (but hopefully not twisted) where heavy frets are called for. My baroque lute represents just such an instance where everything is fine except that much thicker frets are called for and more care in selecting sizes to taper up to the 10th fret. Here is the fret scheme for my lute: frets 1,2,3 1.25 mm 4,5 1.20 6 1.10 7 1.05 8 1.00 9 .95 10 .85 So if you find you need heavier frets, do not be alarmed. My lute plays beautifully, there is no undue wear on the strings on the finger board, and everything is in tune. You may have to invest in some fret gut, but like tuning, it's part of the job. Damian Please visit my web site at www.damianstrings.com - Original Message - From: Daniel Winheld [3][5]dwinh...@comcast.net To: [4][6]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Hi guys, nylon frets... Dana- this seems like excellent advice cautions in regard to nylon frets. In line with that, I would also advise noting what the neck and fingerboard are made of- ebony fingerboard with ebony veneered neck would seem to be best; in any case the hardest, toughest woods possible would be in order. Anything else, especially if the lute is of some value, could be counter productive so why not go with the easier, safer, and in any case better sounding traditional alternative? That said, I would also advise the thinnest frets that you could get away with. Dowland's advice seems appropriate here; he starts with 4th course for the first two frets (.85 - .90 mm), next two of 3rd course size, (.70-ish) 5th 6th fret, 2nd course; and the rest trebles. Also single frets would be best; while the traditional doubles are rarely used by modern lutenists anyway, only gut doubles will bed down properly for cleanest sound. Attempting to get enough tension for tightness, and for the fret to lie flat near the fingerboard edges at the first fret position with 1.15 nylon would take two gorillas with vice grip pliers. And a titanium neck with carbon fingerboard. Dan Nylon can be made to work, but it even more of a pain in the proverbial than gut. It is stronger than most neck woods and will leave an indentation; some like that, it marks where the fret goes. Others dislike
[LUTE] Re: Q
Q is good...good is Q. But J.L. Picard is better :-) On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:38 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: The news paper reviewer of last Staturday's St John wrote that organ, cello and lute provided a good continuum. She watched too much StarTrek, I suppose. David - boldy going forward, cannot find reverse -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Hi guys, nylon frets...
Well, I'm trying to replace my frets, I took a bunch of strings from old guitar sets I had, b strings, they look closer to the gut frets I have now. Anyway, I can't seem to keep them tight after tieing it, any suggestions? Sent from my iPhone To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: 7 course English pieces
My dear friend, it actually seems that DR, and other friends missed the whole point. I never asked for someone to look pieces for me, I only asked for recommendation for pieces that can be found in Serge's and Wayne's websites. Unfortunately to me, I don't have libraries to get information from, the nearest library with early music is in Italy (maybe I can find something in Egypt or Turkey), my main source of information is my teacher, but he can't keep every piece of music ever written, I take from him almost every thing I can to study. What I can't take from him, I usually take from both sites, and If I can't find there, so I'm looking in few editions to buy, and I buy when I can. Some folks here plays many years, and I figured they have some recommendation for pieces. And if someone will ask me for some six- course german music, I will recommend instead of attacking him. On Feb 25, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Daniel Winheld wrote: Sounds like somebody may be a touch spoiled or impatient here- some of us old timers remember the days when we had to go to public libraries and get our music by HAND COPYING IT on staff pages- 5 line staves to which we hand ruled a 6th line if we didn't want it to be 5 line Attaignant style- from MICROFILM projections. That's how I got my Thomas Robinson, Dowland's LoST, Le Roy's English printing, Barley's book, Maynard's XII Wonders of the World and a few other things. I still have one of these books, that I sweated over for weeks- kind of like personal ms tabs from the real old days, before any of us were born. For other music, I had to learn to read lute music transcribed into double-staff notation for a G tenor lute, not easy for a guitarist used to E on a treble staff. (VALUABLE training!) I had to go out and BUY this music as hard copy entities from brick mortar music stores- or mail (not email) order my music. Some of us old farts occasionally still do this, in fact. I got my 7 course stuff right along with the 6, 8, 9, or 10 course music and was perfectly grateful to have it all, and sort it out. Even when my only lute was a medium quality nylon string guitar. Omer- I advise a little more patience, initiative; and better manners, please. Dan I'm looking in some few books, but thank you for being an a*** Omer, it is obvious that english is not your first language. DR's reply was remarkably polite, if a bit abrupt. Your counter was not only downright rude, but also inapropriate. To my knowledge three is no index of Lute sources which lists 7c pieces, much of the material published after 1500 is for either 6 or 7c instruments. Note that anything for a 6c instrument is playable on a 7c. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] 7 course English pieces
But...not songs or dowland's stuff... Only english. And that can be found in Wayne's or Serge's site. Anything you can come up with will be a big help to me, so I thank you all ahead. Omer Katzir Sent from my iPhone To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: 7 course English pieces
I'm looking in some few books, but thank you for being an a*** Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2009, at 22:20, David Rastall dlu...@verizon.net wrote: On Feb 24, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Omer Katzir wrote: But...not songs or dowland's stuff... Only english. And that can be found in Wayne's or Serge's site. Anything you can come up with will be a big help to me, so I thank you all ahead. Are you sugggesting that we all go scouring through Wayne's and Sarge's websites and find 7-course pieces for you, while you do nothing? Do your own research for once! We all did. You can too. DR dlu...@verizon.net -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?
Thank keyboard concept of yours sounds really interesting, can you post a picture of that keyboard? Thanks! On Feb 14, 2009, at 3:30 PM, alexander wrote: If saving the time is at issue, by all means - computer way. I used pen (actually - pencil - much faster) - paper - copier for years and years. To produce a one average 12 stave page simple part with a fair number of 16ths than someone else besides self will be able to read took about 30 minutes. Then i tried a few programs, and went by reducing the time needed, with results improved. The same part on Lilypond takes me now under 5 minutes (no bluffing here, - i have set the keyboard with note names under left fingers and values in the right, and have templates for every possible set-up prepared, just enter the notes). The learning curve (though the improvement never actually stops) to produce the very first good part, was about two - three hours. The advantages are: an immediate redesign of number of pages, sizes, line breaks, bars- no bar lines, ad intinitum, and the whole library of music on a flash drive. Now i just keep a printer in the rehearsal room, and no one complains about my handwriting! alexander On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:43:43 + (GMT) Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Thank you Eugene, I use pen and paper copies now but, since so many collegues seem to be producing computer set parts these days, thought that using the appropriate software might not be as time consuming as I feared (I can't quite believe that it takes less time to enter a note via a keyboard than by writing it). I might stick to photocopied MS parts Martyn --- On Fri, 13/2/09, Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu wrote: To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?
Try Lilypond. It's not like Finale or Sibelius, but it's much better, and free. It's take a while to hang on in it, but it worth the time. On Feb 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: I'm sorry for introducing a non-lute note into these communications, but I'd be grateful for views on the best FREE computer software for writing staff notation; ie something like Sibelius or Finale, but free. I've tried Muscore which, seems to me, to have some problems but perhaps it's the best there is? MH -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: The Sound of Crisis
Ohh man! this is good! man...I should download it for my math class :-) On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:34 PM, Orphenica wrote: Maybe a little off topic, but hilarious... Microsoft created a computer program called Songsmith to generate songs from the input of numbers. So this composer asked himself; Why not put in some actual economic data. The results are really funny. http://www.kreidler-net.de/charts.html we To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Off-Topic
Yes, and I'm part of the movement. On Feb 2, 2009, at 4:18 AM, Bruno Correia wrote: Absolutely off-topic: has anybody seen these videos? [1]http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ -- References 1. http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's knight of the lute
Dear Lex, I have found this file, but i saw this piece in other formation, actually, I'm sure i saw it in other format... But I can handle it, i think... Thank you for your help! On Jan 27, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Lex van Sante wrote: Hi Omar, This piece isn't by Dowland at all. Equus Romanus aka the knight of the lute was possibly identical with Laurencini of Rome. Richard Civiol; has put a PDF of the variety of lute lessens 1610 on the net in which this piece is to be found. Happy hunting! Lex van Sante To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Dowland's Knight of the lute
I can't seem to find this tab again, i looked both in Cripps's and gerbode's sites, but I keep missing it. In fact, when i think of it, I'm not sure it's dowland's piece... Any one can help? Thank you, Omer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Mac users working with TAB, help
I decided to use TAB, I can't work with finale and friends anymore. all these applications can't write polyphony as should be. I download TAB from the FTP, and looked at the instructions, when I try to use gcc I keep getting no input file, I install xCode, and that it...I actually don't know any thing right now... please help me :-* To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Mac users working with TAB, help
It uses some old version of TAB...I hate to stay behind. And i tried it, looks interesting. For now I'll use it, but for later, I'm not sure... On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Eric Crouch wrote: Try xTab, downloadable from here [1]http://medievallute.info/. It works fine for me. Eric Crouch On 19 Jan 2009, at 16:07, Omer Katzir wrote: I decided to use TAB, I can't work with finale and friends anymore. all these applications can't write polyphony as should be. I download TAB from the FTP, and looked at the instructions, when I try to use gcc I keep getting no input file, I install xCode, and that it...I actually don't know any thing right now... please help me :-* To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://medievallute.info/ 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Mac users working with TAB, help
ohh yes...and one more, is that format is the same as TAB? i see it saves the files as tabx On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Eric Crouch wrote: Try xTab, downloadable from here [1]http://medievallute.info/. It works fine for me. Eric Crouch On 19 Jan 2009, at 16:07, Omer Katzir wrote: I decided to use TAB, I can't work with finale and friends anymore. all these applications can't write polyphony as should be. I download TAB from the FTP, and looked at the instructions, when I try to use gcc I keep getting no input file, I install xCode, and that it...I actually don't know any thing right now... please help me :-* To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://medievallute.info/ 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Ohh man...replacing strings is BAD!!
Saturday, I wanted to reverse my lute strings and few of them snapped, they were only one year old. So I put new strings, and man...I hate to do that. Now I have to tune every few seconds, but the sound...o the sound they sounds like something from Terminator and not something from 1500CE. may the great cat in heaven help me! Time to play again, after that to find out how to squeeze the Baroque into two pages :-( -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lutes were the earliest form of guitar developed in the thirteenth century
who the crack wrote this thing...? make me want to upload my Guitar I thesis... On Jan 12, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: OUch. It is selfexplanItory. RT - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:01 AM Subject: [LUTE] Lutes were the earliest form of guitar developed in the thirteenth century Lute and guitar history - th cutting edge: http://www.megaessays.com/viewpaper/4478.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] restring - another qustion
how often do you replace your strings? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator
You know you're all crazy, right...? On Dec 2, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: At 10:51 AM 12/2/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008, Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just out of curiosity, what exactly is Victorian Meantone? perhaps it was last tuned in the victorian age? Should be strongly related to nickel-beer pianoroll meantone. Mmmm... Make mine a creamy stout. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Thank you guys with your help!
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[LUTE] ok...need some more help...
For the past few weeks I'm trying to write,tabs. becuase I'm a mac user, i pretty much have nothing... I can use Finale 2009, Sibelius 5 or Guitar pro. but they all pretty much the same bad thing. I can run XP, but: Fronimo: Can't save (and don't have money to buy...) Django (same as above) I haven't tried the app by Cripps yet, it's really hard for me to work at a terminal environment right now (sick as a little puppy) I need it both for lute and maybe a voice or two. for now i use Finale, but it's really really make me even sicker! Any help or advice or maybe some pills will be great... Omer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Temperaments, the second night
When you can (and if you want) i will be happy to hear :-) On Nov 11, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Daniel Winheld wrote: In short: easy to do, proven to work, And I owe David a beer, at least. dt Well then I owe him a case. Also you, Sean Smith, Omer, and everyone else who has contributed to the meantone threads. That, in conjunction with with the break-in and tone discussions have empowered and informed me to improve the sound on my vihuela 100%. Uniform gut stringing all the way (old, ill matching gut gut substitutes removed and thrown back onto the gutpile- an ancient peanut brittle box with dried entrails going back to the 1970's) ..and 1/4 comma meantone fretting -including an f# c# tastino behind the 1st fret. Only sound check has been borrowed ears- Sean Smiith's, my wife's, my own. So far so good. I had to remove the 3rd fret g# tastino from the 4th course to play an f-minor recercar by Marco D'Aquila, but so far so good. Dan -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Sting shows how to play the Lute
Ohh man... that was a good one. STING SUCKS On Nov 9, 2008, at 2:48 PM, igor . wrote: Now,You all should learn how to play ! [1]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7714354.stm -- References 1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7714354.stm To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute
Wow, troll in Lute group... what's next...? woman as a US president ? On Nov 9, 2008, at 1:16 PM, igor . wrote: the sound was really open !! some more stupid comments ? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute
Yep... it's really annoying. was fun at first, but he keep saying stupid things... I wonder why there are no smart trolls... On Nov 9, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Are Vidar Boye Hansen wrote: Wayne, please remove this Igor guy from the list as soon as possible. Are There are moments when Val's playing has moved me, and left me thinking, 'Why can't I play like that?' you must be a comedian or something ?! Igor Moronski -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Temperaments: The Final Night
so today, after much sitting, reading, thinking and petting my cats I have decided. 1/4 comma is my new temperament. First i took my lute out of her nice bed, few strings jumped from the drastic temperature changes here in the last few days. With a nice A4 piece of paper and a pencil, I marked the current fret locations from the nut to the body (I have not included the frets on the body, I can't change them anyway...) and used the other side of the paper to mark the 1/4 comma fret locations, i used LSA paper and my own calculator to make sure there are no errors. Then I had to move the frets, my frets are old and i really need to replace them, soon my darling... most of them move easily to their new home, the last fret was my biggest problem and i had to put a piece of paper in the back so it will stay tight (still need to work on it more accurately) after solving every error, and rechecking the fret locations, it was time to tune the strings. I used [1]this paper to get the numbers, after tuning, i checked the tune again with my ears and made some fine tuning to the frets. Finally it was time to play, and may the great cat bless me, most of the pieces sounded much better! dowland, was the worst, i hate him anyway... Milan, Milano, Newsidler, Dalza, Campion and some anon sounded like the sweet meow of a just born cat. dowland, as i said before, sounded like all dying whale in chernobyl. Even my first fantasy (not published yet) sounded much better then in ET. After few hours of playing (not sure how much, only my student stopped me from playing more) I put the lute back in her place. I have decided not to use tastini fret for now and just go with the music, had no problems with that at all for now. i really wish i could replace the frets, but i cannot do it right now (I've ordered new gut, wonder if i can just use an old nylon string... anyone?) For now, Omer is happy. I'm going to try few more temperaments (well, only two more, 1/6 and 1/8) and I might even create a new temperament with pure tritons running all over the place and screaming for the great cat to help them. but don't mind that now... My plans for the future: Electric guitar with moveable frets, I think it's time to kill ET forever! And of course, I couldn't do it with out you guys (and girls...if any), thank you all for your help and wanting to help. I'm glad this discussion is archived for future generations I gained much from reading everything again before stating to have fun. -- References 1. http://home.planet.nl/~ooije006/david/writings/meantone_p.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Temperaments, the second night
If anyone here ever tuned to unequal temperament without tastini, please write your experience. (or even quotes from early fretted players) I will start my testing tomorrow, but i will still like to read what other people done. and of course...the other way around. how you handled the new little fret, how you know when to press on the correct position with it. I know my own testing will be much better, but i also wonder how... lets stayF. Milano tuned his lute :-D, I'm really looking for the pure tunes offered by other temperaments but i don't want to play wrong I play renaissance music, and medieval, sometimes i go to the early Baroque, but not later. And its a new experience for me, I'm actually excited... On Nov 6, 2008, at 12:52 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wonder (again) what will happened if i wont use tastino? lets say...in Pythagorean tuning or Aron's Meantine? I don't know about Aron's Meantine, but Pythagorean temperament without tastini shouldn't be too much of a problem. The single line music you are likely to play will allow for refingering the offending notes somewehere else on the fingerboard. Anyway, the best way to find out is to try and judge for yourself. David -- *** David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Temperaments, the second night
Sound like horror movie? OK, now that i've decided on my Temperament, one final question should be asked. what about the strings tuning? I guess it wont be the same as in equal temperament. For now i have three temperaments to play with, i have the sheets and the frets ready for abuse. but the tuning of the strings, is my final question. now, going back to playing :-) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Temperaments, the second night
I just wonder (again) what will happened if i wont use tastino? lets say...in Pythagorean tuning or Aron's Meantine? On Nov 5, 2008, at 12:54 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, now that i've decided on my Temperament, one final question should be asked. what about the strings tuning? I guess it wont be the same as in equal temperament. Obviously. When for example you set your third fret higher, and keep the a' at the same pitch, the c on the third course, third fret will be higher. You will have to adjust the open fifth course to that pitch. Tune the fifth course up, then. c. ad infinitum. Well meant advice: start with something regular like mean tone or Pythagorean first, as they require less compromise and give a good result much easier. And another advice: don't play just any music with any temperament. Pythagorean is great fro Trecento music, but not for Bach. 1/4 MT is great for Monteverdi, but not for Weiss. These are historical temperaments, but can sound hysterical when applied inappropriately. David -- *** David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] My first true lute video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VIAoo1V-8w I tuned the lute with the new super duper tuner, It is still slightly out of tune (if you can notice it), but still much better then my old tuner. It is my first true video recording so I'm little excited. No manipulation were done on the file. You can also see other videos i recorded with my guitars, but i haven't touched it for two years (beside teaching). I will appreciate any building comment (YOU SUCK means nothing for me, i know i suck...), any recording suggestions, and even how to clean my very small apartment :-D (lucky for you, you can't see the floor) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Tune the tuna - Part II
So, few days ego (i think it was Sunday, not what day it is today...) I received the Super Duper Sonic Tuner as some of you recommended. A great tuner, but I really need tips to use it, I'm still used to my old needle tuner, I always used them and now all the flashing lights confusing me. I read the instruction manual, it is great becuase now I know how to change temperaments, cents, save, delete, backlight etc. But I'm not really sure how to tune, the manual fails to explain it (at least for me) in nice and clear way. For now i don't care about flats and sharps, I just want it to tune, when I'll get used to it, I'll think some more. But how, in the name of the great Henry the VIII, I know if my string is tuned? So any one with this nice tuner (and it really nice) please help me. The second part of my tuning trilogy goes to the temperament. I have decided 1/6 Comma for my first test. according to LSA i need Tastino which i guess supposed to be an extra fret (had little time to read) and i don't have one for now, I only have the frets already on my lute, i can try other temperament that not requires it, like the Mersenne's Spinet #1, Kepler #2 but from what i see, they are... different from what i want to try. so again, suggestions will be gladly excepted. Other problem i have, are the 10th-12th frets, they are on the lute body, how should i handle that problem? My lute is a 7c, 61cm and it is now tuned to Equal Temperament, I have 9 frets on the neck and three more on the body. Thank you again and again Omer Katzir To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II
Dear David, I think you should read that part again... let me write it again: A great tuner, but I really need tips to use it, I'm still used to my old needle tuner, I always used them and now all the flashing lights confusing me. I read the instruction manual, it is great becuase now I know how to change temperaments, cents, save, delete, backlight etc. But I'm not really sure how to tune, the manual fails to explain it (at least for me) in nice and clear way. For now i don't care about flats and sharps, I just want it to tune, when I'll get used to it, I'll think some more. But how, in the name of the great Henry the VIII, I know if my string is tuned? So any one with this nice tuner (and it really nice) please help me. On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:24 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A great tuner, but I really need tips to use it, .. But I'm not really sure how to tune, the manual fails to explain it (at least for me) in nice and clear way. On the Finale list we say RTFM, which stands for Read the Finale Manual, or the Friendly Manual, or ... Power on. Press Alt-Clear (to put it in default setting). Press Chromatic Button (Puts it in Chromatic Mode). Press Auto often enough (none, once or twice) to put it in Auto Mode. Display should read: D4 (or whatever other note) Chromatic Auto Pluck string. The display will display the closest pitch it's hearing. Tune up or down till you reach your desired pitch. If the red lights turn with the clock, you're too high. If the red lights turn against the clock, you're too low. If you want 415Hz in stead of the default 440Hz: Press Alt-A440 Change. Press Note+ to move up by Hz. Press Note- to move down by Hz. Press Cents+ to move up by cents. Press Cents- to move down by cents. Finish with Alt. Display will now show: D4 A415,0 Chromatic Auto Should be straightforward. For other settings: RTFM. ;-) David -- *** David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[LUTE] Re: Tune the tuna - Part II
I have decided to try Just tuning first, still few questions remains. lets go back to the tuner: I'm in a very noisy environment sometimes (there's a kindergarden few steps from here...), how i can see visually if I'm tuned? (ST-122 just to remind) that's it, then i'm fixed (already have set it up manually for my lute) Now back to the temperament, I'm going to try more then one. I might even try dowland's temperament. First, With what to make the Tastino? I do not want it to be permanent. tape is good, but how large should i make it? long like a fret? or smaller like... mother of pearl in my SG's neck? (like the picture one of the David's brought here), how thick, how long, etc... please remember, this is my first attempt with other temperaments. Second, What about the frets on the lute body? there are three. I guess there is some trick with that... Before I touch the lute, i want to know much more on the technicality, I don't want to cause damage. Thanks again Omer b.h.w. I Finally worked out the LSA file, using Excel 2008 for Mac On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:50 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Ron Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David vO wrote... I'm into bits of fret gut, held in place with tape, these days. The .. I assume this is what I know as 'masking-tape'. Can you elaborate how you use it on a lute? See the picture on on this page: http://home.planet.nl/~ooije006/david/writings/meantone_f.html (scroll down) It can be difficult to remove after a few months, but I don't envisage anyone making a temporary tuning last that long! On the contrary, some of my lutes are permanently in some form of MT, so the bits of fret-with-masking-tape only get removed for jobs requiring ET. So far no sticky fingerboards. A friend used the 'invisible' scotch tape. Looked better, perhaps, but it was a serious pain to remove. David Ron (UK) -- *** David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl ***
[LUTE] is it time for a master class?
I'm playing my lovely lute for almost two years, studying with one of the greatest teacher (D.r. Levi Sheptovitsky) and I'm a Music BA student at the TESC in NJ but, I'm interesting in medieval to mid-renaissance and i have two problems: 1. I'm one of the few players interesting in these periods in Israel, when i say few, I'm talking less then 10 players (and maybe one or two singers) 2. Coming from first, it's the second problem, i never worked with a group before. now, few more problems. Israel... far away :-( so I'm stuck in europe area. but, i know only three languages. Hebrew, English and Klingon (going to study Vulcan too) I'm a handicapped, taking regular medications. is that a problem or they don't care? and third, i want to start easy. so I want to take a beginners master class, I want to start easy and build myself with the music. sooo Thank you again and have a pleasant happy new jewish year :-D Omer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] from the court of Henry the VIII
nothing more to say... just pieces from this lovely court, i have two songs written by the king (all i could find by myself right now), greensleeves not included. again, thank you all for your help :-) b.h.w. my tuner got stuck in the customs office, i think i'll tell them it's a little atomic bomb so i wont have to pay the tax... To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: from the court of Henry the VIII
oh yes, i really like Henry the VIII, i think he was a great king and really nice person. and about green, we all know he didn't wrote that. can be him. On Oct 13, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: 'Lovely'? Rob 2008/10/13 Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] nothing more to say... just pieces from this lovely court, i have two songs written by the king (all i could find by myself right now), greensleeves not included. again, thank you all for your help :-) b.h.w. my tuner got stuck in the customs office, i think i'll tell them it's a little atomic bomb so i wont have to pay the tax... To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Temperament wondering...
Thanks andrew, but i have a problem with LSA file, i see every thing as 0, beside the english... i used both office 2008 and Neoofice, and it showed me the same thing. might be becuase I'm a mac user... On Oct 2, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Gibbs wrote: Hello Omer I've been tackling this issue myself recently. I started by trying some historical instructions for fret placement (found on the The Lute Society of America Fret Placement Spreadsheet): http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/download/index.html I found, after a lot of trial and error, that Gerle's instructions led to more-or-less 1/6 comma, which is more-or-less what I wanted. An easier way of achieving 1/6 comma (and 1/4 comma) is very clearly explained on David Van Ooijen's site: http://home.planet.nl/~ooije006/david/writings/meantone_f.html Andrew On 2 Oct 2008, at 11:00, Omer katzir wrote: i guess any one already have his favorite, and i want to discover my own... sssoo Any recommendation? i want it for my nice little 7c...but i might try something new with my guitar :-D thank you again Omer -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Temperament wondering...
i guess any one already have his favorite, and i want to discover my own... sssoo Any recommendation? i want it for my nice little 7c...but i might try something new with my guitar :-D thank you again Omer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] tune the tuna
I'm still looking for a new shiny tuner, my old one...well, old. long time ago Korg had the OT-12 (i think it was 12) tuner, a nice tuner, memory, all kind of neat stuff. my friend has it and she's using it to tune her viol. now, Korg have only the OT-120, no memory, few presets. but again, no memory. the presets are nice touch to it, but i cant build my own like in the older model and i really don't want to use automatic tuning, i want to hear the sound, like in the old days when i was young and stupid. any way now... i really need a new tuner. so any suggestions for a nice and shiny tuner will be accepted. i also accept lutes, if you want to send me one or two. thank you, Omer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tune the tuna
oh joy oh joy! it looks like the thing i wanted!!! and even in early Star Trek style!!! now i can truly become the first jewish Captain Spock :-D thanks guys! going to order once i'll find my wallet...i think i put it inside my lute case again... On Sep 23, 2008, at 12:11 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: Sonic Research Turbo Tuner: ST 122 Chromatic Strobe Tuner. www.turbo-tuner.com Fully programmable, very accurate, excellent mic, input for clip mic, robust design, joy to use. Serious omission: no play back. David - had a weekend of continuously tuning an all-gut 10-course in between recording sessions -- *** David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: test
works great On Sep 4, 2008, at 11:47 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Hi all
tune the G to F#, that should do the trick. http://www.gerbode.net/ft2/composers/ http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tab-serv.cgi and there was another site..but i'm getting 404. guys, what happened to TORBAN? On Aug 30, 2008, at 1:13 AM, Joshua Edward Horn wrote: Hi all, I was on this list once before and now I'm back! - I STILL can't afford a Lute but I was able to buy a 36 guitar about the size of an old Baroque guitar. I'm still interested in playing lute music on this thing. Where might I find proper tunings and some lute tablature? Thanks, Josh Joshua Edward Horn To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Hi guys, again with all the guitars...
hi everybody, thank you all for your answers, again. :-) i've just finished my first draft for my Guitar course, and i really starting to think it's a shame i never learned the classical style... i don't like all those fast player (or guitar rapists, as i call them) so i'll avoid from them in the classical style too. now i'm going to feed my six cats and search for your recommendations. On Aug 28, 2008, at 8:45 AM, steve gottlieb wrote: hey omer i'll second eugene about scott tennant's book pumping nylon. definitely the best book for technical work, imo. i also like ricardo iznaola's kitharologus but the latter half of it goes a bit overboard. if you do end up using it, i wouldn't recommend going past level 3. i usually don't do much more than level 1. if you need a full tutor and not just a technique book, then the classics are carcassi, carlevaro and shearer. i also like the sagreras books and tennant has a new one out too that is supposed to be decent (though i haven't seen it myself). for etudes and studies, go with carcassi, sor and brouwer. other good ones are coste and giuliani. and for eugene: speaking of early, obscure methods, have you seen the two volumes by vahdah olcott-bickford? they're great. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i need some books about guitar (English) after checking every book in hebrew, i found nothing. i need about the history of the guitar to the present day (i heard about one called The Guitar And Its Music - From the Renaissance to the Classical Era by James Tyler and Paul Sparks), but i guess i need more. even good internet websites (not wiki) plus, some books about technics for classical guitar playing, good books, i want to play some classical guitar and i want to do it right. my lute teacher can help me, but i don't want to put too much time on that. and i do know the basics. now, i know it's not guitar list, but i know few of you are (or were) guitar players, and i trust you guys (hey, I'm a lute player because you helped me find my luthier) so thank you again for all your help (like the last time with the fantasies for guitar i've asked, you gave me good stuff) and i really hope to upload some lute videos soon! Omer Katzir -- To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Hi guys, again with all the guitars...
i need some books about guitar (English) after checking every book in hebrew, i found nothing. i need about the history of the guitar to the present day (i heard about one called The Guitar And Its Music - From the Renaissance to the Classical Era by James Tyler and Paul Sparks), but i guess i need more. even good internet websites (not wiki) plus, some books about technics for classical guitar playing, good books, i want to play some classical guitar and i want to do it right. my lute teacher can help me, but i don't want to put too much time on that. and i do know the basics. now, i know it's not guitar list, but i know few of you are (or were) guitar players, and i trust you guys (hey, I'm a lute player because you helped me find my luthier) so thank you again for all your help (like the last time with the fantasies for guitar i've asked, you gave me good stuff) and i really hope to upload some lute videos soon! Omer Katzir -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: When the poor cripple
If it's dowland's i think there's nothing wrong :-) he's just weird old dude... my guess, i to create a dissonance, creating some kind of a wormhole effect to grab the audience. we should ask captain spock about it On Aug 16, 2008, at 5:57 PM, LGS-Europe wrote: John Dowland, A Pilgrimes Solace, nr. 16 Opening measure. Lute starts on an E, goes down to D, next measure back to E. Makes a nice line with the upper voice in the lute part. Now look at the tenor: it start on the same E as the lute, but stays there, as this is the theme (compare cantus' and bassus' entrances). So, who's correct: tenor or lute? I'd say tenor. On the other hand, the dissonance between lute and tenor is to my liking as well ... What do other people do here? Any experiences to share? Here are the examples: http://home.planet.nl/~ooije006/david/writings/dowpuz_p.html David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Music in hell (slightly off topic)
Well... So my teacher told me about a painting from the middle ages, you can see there musicians in hell (how nice :-) ) like a Lute player with the string coming out and in from his body, or Flute player with the Flute stuck in his... well... behind. i really want to see this painting, even put it on my nice clean wall for all my students too see... but, i can't remember the name. can some one help me to locate this painting or maybe other like it? We all thank you, Omer Katzir and his cats. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Fantasies for Guitar
sorry for that late answer guys, thank you for your help :-) I found some stuff, link, pages, files, looking into all of it now. i have some one milan fantasies (actually...full book of them...) that i want to use too. just need to tune my old and sexy guitar... thank you all :-) On Jul 16, 2008, at 12:31 AM, Christopher Stetson wrote: Hi, all, Eugene's points are well taken! I stand amended. Omer, I'll see if I can be more helpful this time and take a look at the composers Eugene suggests in the guitar sites to get you some direct links. Maybe Eugene can work on it, too? Best to all, and keep playing, Chris. Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/15/2008 3:53 pm At 08:24 AM 7/13/2008, Christopher Stetson wrote: Well, I would think the first question would be what your (or your instructor's) definition of fantasy is. The term seems to have fallen out of favor early in the 17th c. I see your point that many rhapsodic bits could be considered as fantasy in spite of title, and that the term was perhaps not so commonly used later as it was in the era when purely instrumental music first began moving away from dance forms, but I'm not so certain I would contend that the term fell out of favor in the early 17th c; fantasy, fantasia, phantasie, phantasiestücke, etc. found occasional use throughout. Consider the occasional lute works by Weiss or Kellner; the fortepiano works of C.P.E. Bach, Mozart, or Schumann; the guitar works by Sor, Coste, Legnani, etc. They're there. Best, Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
