Re: Hiding Apps

[Erik Heil]

Hello, 
I don’t believe that this is possible.  That is, apps that you have purchased 
cannot be deleted from your account.  I believe that this is simply due to the 
legal requirement for record keeping and the such.  Well, perhaps someone else 
can chime in on this, as I am not completely sure on this matter.  However, the 
same is true, for instance, if you make a purchase on Amazon.com 
<http://amazon.com/>, return the item for whatever reason, you will certainly 
see a record of both the order, as well as the status of the return. 

—Erik

> On Jan 25, 2023, at 12:44 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Another one that changed in Ventura is ability to hide apps from the Mac 
> App store. I wish to hide an app I mistakenly downloaded. For that matter, is 
> it even possible to remove them completely from the Hidden Purchases section? 
> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on Mac

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi Desmond.

I love chrome. I used it across Mac, windows and android where it served 
extraordinarily well, synchronized my bookmarks and other amenities, and 
was decent for at least the basics of web development.


Around November, chrome updated itself automatically on my Mac and 
accessibility fell right off the bottom of the chart. Pages began taking 
10-30 seconds to load.  Focus refused to set to the web page viewer 
automatically.  Some web page elements such as tables stopped working for 
navigation.  It was a mess after being used to essentially seemless 
experience for years.  I am happy enough with safari on my Mac, but I was 
crushed when Chrome became more or less unviable as it still works so well 
on all my other systems.


I continue to use it for web development on windows, though mainly for the 
bare basics of making sure fonts and visuals are right, viewing the source 
of a page and retrieving basic errors.  I have good php and Javascript 
online debuggers that I prefer for examining my code.


Best,

Erik


On March 17, 2020 7:36:34 AM Dezman Jackson  wrote:

Good morning,

Hope all are doing well.
Was just curious if anyone out here uses Chrome on the Mac with VoiceOver 
on a regular bbasis?Personally, I don't find it to be all that er-friendly 
and tend to use Safari. I am also interested in hearing from anyone who is 
involved in web development and if you use the dev tools in Chrome.


Regards,
Dezman

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Re: google chrome on Mac OS?

[Erik Burggraaf]

I was very happy with chrome for years, but had to uninstall it from my mac 
a couple of months ago.  It was taking an extravigantly long time to load 
webpages.  It stopped setting focus to the html content and bogged down 
almost but not quite completely when I tried to navigate there.


It was pretty ugly.

Best,

Erik


On January 16, 2020 11:19:06 AM Matt  wrote:

Hi folks.

for anyone using chrome, it appears that you can't use vo+J to jump
around in chrome.

And it keeps reading the webpage out, even though I have it turned off
in VO utilities.

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Re: iClever bluetooth keyboard

[Erik Burggraaf]

Oit definitely connects to one or more devices and allows you to switch 
back and forth between them. You would have to consult the manual though to 
find out about the device connectivity. I am pretty sure it will only 
connect to one device of a type at any given time. For example, if you have 
an iPhone and an iPad, those are both Apple devices, and will not share the 
Apple setting. If you have an iPhone and a Galaxy tablet, one gets the 
Android setting and one gets the Apple setting and you could switch back 
and forth between the two of them. I think that's how it works, but don't 
quote me.



On January 5, 2020 7:01:02 AM "'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries" 
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Hi,

A question to those who use iClever bluetooth keyboard.  Does this keyboard 
connect to more than one device?


Many thanks

Andrew

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Re: Coming Back to Android

[Erik Burggraaf]

Greetings,

On November 5, 2019 10:03:41 p.m. Holly  wrote:

1. What do you do productivity wise with your Android device?


I used my moto G phone in place of a computer for nearly a year.  Obviously 
I did email, some high leverage web browsing such as filing my taxes online 
and filling out job applications, and advanced word and data processing.


I also did web programming in html, css, java script, and php with code 
editors, file transfers with ftp, maths, and so on.  I had at various 
times, accessible third party project management tools, accounting 
packages, and receipt trackers for small business.  And of course, a lot of 
cloud services like google drive, one  and dropbox.


2. What are some good resources, such as podcasts, that I could use to
learn more about apps and TalkBack itself?

Inclusiveandroid.com doesn't get updated as often as we'd like, but just 
launched a new podcast.  You can help by reviewing your device and any apps 
you find.  The app directory with accessibility ratings is our best feature.



3. What areas of Android are really inaccessible?

None.  There are numerous minor enhancements I would like to see, such as 
ability to add web elements to the granularities menue, but the system 
itself works well in all respects.  That's not to say you won't experience 
a learning curve.

4. What, in your opinion, are the most serious bugs in TalkBack?

I don't experience any stability or performance issues in talkback.  
Importing and exporting graphics label files was broken at one point.  I'm 
not sure if it still is, but that would be the biggest non working thing I 
can think of.  Brailleback is a bit of a different story.

5. What are some accessible games for Android?

Check inclusive android's game section.
Thanks so much in advance.

On a parting note, I noticed a few of your questions tended to a rather 
dark bbent.  I'd just like to emphasize some real plus points in talkback.



Gestures are initially very simple and highly configureable.
The selection of speech synthesizers available is outstanding as the speech 
API is available system wide.  I'm currently using acapella tracy for example.



Talkback does a good job handling maths and describing format elements on 
request.


Holly

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RE: Apple's Destructive MacOS Catalina Update Betrays Trust In Your Broken MacBook Pro

[Erik Burggraaf]

64-bit computing is literally older than the iPhone. Apple gave developer 
is a year-and-a-half notice letting them know that 32-bit support would be 
dropped.  it's sad that a lot of people decided to the cost-benefit ratio 
wasn't worth it, and I understand how frustrated people who are using apps 
that are no longer in development must be.


I can't really think of any justification for any operating system to 
continue preserving 32-bit though. In fact, I'm surprised that there is a 
32-bit version of Windows 10.  the only reason why I can think of for 
32-bit support being around in Windows 10 is that the developer 
environments for Microsoft if not yet been updated to 64-bit.


the same thing happened to people when they moved from Doss to Windows 95, 
and there was no backwards compatibility at all for 16-bit applications in 
32-bit environment.  All things considered, 32 bit computing has had a 
glorious run!  It seems to me the time has come to move forward.



On October 16, 2019 7:41:25 p.m. Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Yeah it’s turning into a major cluster word sounding like duck,

I’m sad to say apple have really dropped the ball on these operating 
systems this year.





From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings

Sent: Thursday, 17 October 2019 12:24 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's Destructive MacOS Catalina Update Betrays Trust In 
Your Broken MacBook Pro


Yeah, and I was only thinking last night that I might get the Overdrive App 
for the Mac so I could download books onto my Mac using it. But that 
doesn’t look like it will be worth it now.



On 17/10/2019, at 12:19, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:


It's interesting that I've just been speaking to a sighted friend wh says 
their mac book and they say they don't want to replace it as they have I've 
just  been speaking to a sighted friend who's mac book has just died and 
they are going for an iPad mini rather than a new replacement mac book due 
to the feed back they are hearing about Catalina,
So obviously the sighted world is not happy with the  way apple are 
currently doing things related to their operating systems


I wish steve jobs would come back!

Can someone dig him up for us,.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2019/10/15/apple-macos-catalina-mac-imac-macbook-pro-32bit-support-microsoft-office-broken-update/

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Re: Iphones with home buttons?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Thanks for that.

Best,

Erik


On October 11, 2019 12:20:34 p.m. Jeff Berwick  
wrote:


Hi there,

I have the iPhone 8 and it has a physical home button.

Jeff



On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Hi all, could some one please refresh my memory on which IPhones have the 
physical home button?  In particular, I can't rremember whether the IPhone 
8 does or not.


Thanks,

Erik


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Iphones with home buttons?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi all, could some one please refresh my memory on which IPhones have the 
physical home button?  In particular, I can't rremember whether the IPhone 
8 does or not.


Thanks,

Erik


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Re: Email doubts

[Erik Burggraaf]

to attach a file, copy it in your finder, and paste it into the body of 
your email. This is the same procedure you would use if you were using 
Microsoft Outlook on Windows. Best, Erik



On September 15, 2019 10:38:47 AM hemachandran karah  
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Dear all,

I hope this message is coming across clearly well. This is my first ever 
email from my Mac.


I have some doubts though. Here they are:
1 How do I navigate between inboxes and messages?
2 How do I delete quoted messages?
3 How do I attach a file?

I will be grateful for your help.

I am holding my breath and pressing the send button!

Take care,
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Musicbox was Re: Tag Editor for Batch Editing Music Files

[Erik Burggraaf]

Here, have a look at this program called music box.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bmqxc4irbsedn40/musicbox.zip?dl=0

unfortunately, it's discontinued now. I think he wanted too much for it 
when it was under development. I came along and found it just as it was 
going out, and he gave me a key file.


I haven't had time to see if it works on the latest and greatest, but if it 
does, it will save you the hell of iTunes.


XACT also has a non-invasive tag editor, but I haven't had a need or a 
chance to play with it yet.


Enjoy,

Erik


On September 3, 2019 11:11:00 PM Dave Carlson  wrote:

I need to change the Artis or album names for large numbers of music files. 
I’m not finding it very friendly to use iTunes. I’d like to highlight a 
list of MP3 files in the Finder, and then have an app that will allow me to 
change the album name, or artist name for all the files simultaneously. 
This was very easy in Windows, using the Windows Explorer, so I’m hoping 
there’s an easy solution (and one that doesn’t cost a bundle) for the OSx Mac.


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Re: Tag Editor for Batch Editing Music Files

[Erik Burggraaf]

I disagree with your definition of efficiency, but oh well.  ITunes 
commandeers the files by broot force and then creates a 20 step process for 
accomplishing anything with them.  Then heaven help you if you hit the 
wrong button, generating thousands of duplicates, corrupting your massive 
library data file, and who knows what else.  At least file format support 
is pretty robust now, but I'll do anything to  avoid ITunes.



@Dave, I'll send you a copy of musicbox when I get home this afternoon.

Best,

Erik

On September 4, 2019 9:15:02 AM "'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries" 
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Hi,

What sort of issues are you having when doing this in iTunes?  Using the 
Info dialog in iTunes, you can easily do what you want individually or in 
bulk.  I've used it extensively for this exact process.  There are likely 
other tools out there, but I haven't bothered to look since iTunes is fully 
accessible and does the job efficiently.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 3, 2019, at 21:10, Dave Carlson  wrote:

I need to change the Artis or album names for large numbers of music files. 
I’m not finding it very friendly to use iTunes. I’d like to highlight a 
list of MP3 files in the Finder, and then have an app that will allow me to 
change the album name, or artist name for all the files simultaneously. 
This was very easy in Windows, using the Windows Explorer, so I’m hoping 
there’s an easy solution (and one that doesn’t cost a bundle) for the OSx Mac.


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Re: The Dot Braille Smart Watch.

[Erik Burggraaf]

I didn't think the size was unreasonable.  I have slender wrists and 
sometimes prefer a woman's watch, but I can wear a man's watch comfortably 
and found the dot comfortable to wear.  I have a hard time with jewelry in 
general but I never felt compelled to take the watch off and put it back on 
as I usually do when wearing a watch.  The fact that I was engrossed in my 
phone while walking around the office may have had something to do with that.


As for dirty hands, that would be an issue with any braille watch, but I 
won't have a talking watch under any circumstances.


Best,

Erik


On August 28, 2019 11:03:51 AM Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

Hello,

just to add a very very personal thought: I considder the Dot Watch as not 
very pretty and way to big. So you should take a look before buying it. And 
take in consideration what you’ll do if you eat finger food and you want to 
know the time or read a message.


All the best
Jürgen



Am 28.08.2019 um 16:33 schrieb Erik Burggraaf :

Hi, I tested this product last year when I worked for an access technology 
company.  At that time the quality was not what I expected in a $500 
product, but was steadily improving.


Pros: comfortable, convenient, easy to use, cross platform compatible.  The 
dot watch is really an outstanding idea and functionally works perfectly.


Cons: Only four cells.  I would prefer the display turned sideways wnd an 
extra cell fitted.  This is to do with the fact that the average word in 
english is 5 letters long.  Considering grade two braille, you can pack a 
lot more info on the display with 5 cells than with 4.


Scrreen protecter is a very important feature, but made the dots slightly 
not as nice to read.


Dot firmness.  You had to be careful with tthe dots on the model I tested 
last year as they could be manually pushed down by a finger and then would 
take a while to come back up.


Personally, if I had a choice between a smart watch like the apple watch or 
the dot, I would take the dot hands down.  Having said that, and 
considering the price point, I hoped for more features onboard the watch 
such as excelerometer, gps, fitness tracker and more.  I know there are 
people using apple watch for health and it's having an enormous impact.  
So, I want the dot to have fall detection, heart, oxygen, and blood sugar 
monitoring, and so on.  I don't need any of these features.  I just really 
like the watch and really want digital braille on my wrist, but I'd love to 
be able to recommend it for more than a high end digital time piece that 
reads smart phone notifications.


Best,

Erik


On August 27, 2019 10:02:51 PM Lucy Edmonds  wrote:

Hello everyone. I am looking for opinions on the Dot Braille Smart Watch. 
It is a smart watch that you can pair with your eye device, and it has a 
for character braille display. There are plenty of YouTube videos out there 
about it, but I am looking for someone who has seen it or purchased it, and 
can give me an opinion on its durability and how it works. Thanks.

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Re: Fwd: The Dot Braille Smart Watch.

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi, I tested this product last year when I worked for an access technology 
company.  At that time the quality was not what I expected in a $500 
product, but was steadily improving.


Pros: comfortable, convenient, easy to use, cross platform compatible.  The 
dot watch is really an outstanding idea and functionally works perfectly.


Cons: Only four cells.  I would prefer the display turned sideways wnd an 
extra cell fitted.  This is to do with the fact that the average word in 
english is 5 letters long.  Considering grade two braille, you can pack a 
lot more info on the display with 5 cells than with 4.


Scrreen protecter is a very important feature, but made the dots slightly 
not as nice to read.


Dot firmness.  You had to be careful with tthe dots on the model I tested 
last year as they could be manually pushed down by a finger and then would 
take a while to come back up.


Personally, if I had a choice between a smart watch like the apple watch or 
the dot, I would take the dot hands down.  Having said that, and 
considering the price point, I hoped for more features onboard the watch 
such as excelerometer, gps, fitness tracker and more.  I know there are 
people using apple watch for health and it's having an enormous impact.  
So, I want the dot to have fall detection, heart, oxygen, and blood sugar 
monitoring, and so on.  I don't need any of these features.  I just really 
like the watch and really want digital braille on my wrist, but I'd love to 
be able to recommend it for more than a high end digital time piece that 
reads smart phone notifications.


Best,

Erik


On August 27, 2019 10:02:51 PM Lucy Edmonds  wrote:

Hello everyone. I am looking for opinions on the Dot Braille Smart Watch. 
It is a smart watch that you can pair with your eye device, and it has a 
for character braille display. There are plenty of YouTube videos out there 
about it, but I am looking for someone who has seen it or purchased it, and 
can give me an opinion on its durability and how it works. Thanks.


Lucy edmonds


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Re: Brailleblaster was Re: In the market for a new laptop- your advice

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi,  Liblouis is an open source, cross-platform braille translation API.  
It is the guts of brltty I believe, and it was the basis for louis braille 
translater forr mac.  I believe brailleblaster had implemented liblouis as 
well.  I mean, why re-invent the wheel, right?


Hope this helps,

Erik


On July 24, 2019 8:31:47 PM "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
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   Is it Louis or Liblouis? The latter I found in a search and its
version 3.0.3.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 7/24/2019 5:25 PM, alia robinson wrote:
I don’t. I remember I had to wipe my computer and it took me literally ages 
to find it again! I just looked and I cannot find it *anywhere*


On Jul 24, 2019, at 8:21 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   Do you happen to have the link to the developer's site?



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Brailleblaster was Re: In the market for a new laptop- your advice

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi Donna,Have you experimented with APH brailleblaster?  It served me well 
on windows in the days when it was developed by abilitysoft, but I had a 
hard time with it on mac.  Since APH took over development I haven't had 
embossers to experiment with and have always been curious to whether they 
made it viable or not.


Index onborded the translation process a few years ago and became entirely  
platform agnostic, but software development at index has never been a 
strong suit.  It's entirely the right idea, I just wonder how well executed 
it is.


Either way, there are options to give duxbury a run for their money, 
especially for straight braille translation.


Interested to know if you've experienced any of it and how well you liked it.

Best,

Erik


On July 23, 2019 9:00:36 AM "'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries" 
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Hi Ibrahim,

Erik is probably right about virtualization, but I bought a MacBook Pro in 
2017, after using an Air for eight years prior, and I really miss the light 
weight and portability of the Air.  the Pros are nice, and still pretty 
portable, but the Air really comes out ahead in my opinion, and it does a 
good job for the things I do.  If I were going to make that decision again, 
I'd go with the Air.


Another thing that you might want to know is the cost of Duxbury for Mac.  
I've wanted it since it came out, but when I learned the cost, decided to 
just keep running it under Windows.  The price tag on Duxbury for Mac is $700.


Good luck with your decision.
Cheers,
Donna


On Jul 23, 2019, at 7:42 AM, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:

Hey group,

Hope you’re all well! I’m in the market for a new Apple laptop, looking for 
something that can run windows jaws and Duxbury. Saw the MacBook Pro and 
the MacBook Aire posted online, and unsure if the higher end of the MacBook 
Aire is fit to do the job or if the MacBook Pro is the better option here. 
Any suggestions?


I’m looking to run windows on either  Boot Camp or virtual hard drive, also 
looking for suggestions on this set up. All input  is  deeply appreciated.


All best,
Ibraheem

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Re: In the market for a new laptop, your advice?

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I think any modern apple device will be fine if you want bootcamp windows, 
but I would still recommend a pro model with solid state and upgraded ram 
for virtualization.  Fusion really seems to kick the crap out of baseline 
models in my experience.


Best,

Erik


On July 22, 2019 10:33:15 PM Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:

Hey group,
Hope you’re all well! I’m in the market for a new Apple laptop, looking for 
something that can run windows jaws and Duxbury. Saw the MacBook Pro and 
the MacBook Aire posted online, and unsure if the higher end of the MacBook 
Aire is fit to do the job or if the MacBook Pro is the better option here. 
Any suggestions?


I’m looking to run windows on either  Boot Camp or virtual hard drive, also 
looking for suggestions on this set up. All input  is  deeply appreciated.


All best,
Ibraheem




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Re: How to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode

[Erik Heil]

Hello,
OK, here is the quick answer.  If you have previously connected to WiFi
before, and your Mac is in range of one of them, it will connect to it.
Basically what you have is a stripped-down version of MacOS, so connecting
to other WiFi networks is a simple solution using the menus.  I at least
hope this helps you a little bit.

--Erik

On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 12:25 PM Joe Quinn  wrote:

> I don’t mean to sound anxious, but I kind of am. I need a response as soon
> as possible. I am trying to reinstall my macOS Mojave, but I need to have a
> sure way of being able to choose a Wi-Fi network in recovery mode using
> voiceover. Going to the Internet recovery option is not an option, because
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Re: iPadOS

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Hello there
Well certainly, The new iPad iOS does have a lot to offer new iPads. However, 
dance your question, I believe there are two ways to get this done, i.e. and 
boss braille. However, work to do this is ongoing. I’m not sure, but if iPadOS 
runs in implementation of CUPs, that shouldn’t be very hard to do. If you have 
a custom PPD filter written for the printer, this actually can be done. 
However, printers now do you have Wi-Fi support, so this in fact it may be 
easier. What I’m worried about is the translation of braille documents. And I’m 
not sure as to what capabilities the iPadOS actually has to handle that.

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Re: Games that can be played with sited Children?

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My bad entirely!  :-D  You can see where my heart lies at the moment.  I 
love my phone and all it can do, but I'm looking for ways to put the phone 
down at this point.




On April 7, 2019 11:21:08 AM Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Ha ha great, but what about using iPhone? Do you think that we can find 
iPhone games for child five years old?

Thanks in advance

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
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On Apr 7, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi:
This link is not working, of course I mean is the second link not the apple 
of us.

Thanks so much

Ramy moustafa saber
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music arranger and sound engineer
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On Apr 7, 2019, at 5:03 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

I need them on my Iphone,
and it will be great if it’s between Iphone and android because i Have my 
Iphone, and he has an android Tablit.




On Apr 6, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi Ramy,

What device are you wanting to play the games on? There are some good games 
for the iPhone, but I haven’t looked for the Mac yet.


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Hi all:

Am asking if i can find some interesting games for my Child that i can play 
with him?

the games should be accessible for us and enable sited users to use.

Waiting your suggestions.
Thanks


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Re: Games that can be played with sited Children?

[Erik Burggraaf]

It depends on age.

If we're talking about a toddler, blocks are good.  Mega blocks, blocks 
with raised letters and numbers, Stacking items.  puzzle boards, shapes and 
colours though you might have to put some braille stickers or textured 
identifiers on the coloured items.


As you get older, it gets a little harder but still doable.  At 5 or so 
they can start tictactoe, checkers, go fish, trouble and other simple games 
that are really easy to build from household items or modify using 
household items.


By 12 they can play scrabble, clue, and other logic games that take a long 
time to make over or are expensive to buy, but with some hard work you can 
do it.


There are also beeping balls you can toss or kick around outside, lawn 
games that work really well for blind and sighted.


Along with age, you have to consider interest.  What do you both like?  
What does your child like?  You can start with things you are both 
interested in and build or modify them together.  It's very probable that 
interest will take you places I haven't considered and to solutions no one 
has ever thought of.


Have fun,

Erik


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Hi all:

Am asking if i can find some interesting games for my Child that i can play 
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Re: entering passwords again?

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Hi,
I've experienced something similar while in certain applications.  What
happens is that it appears taht the Text Edit Box for some reason isn't
getting focus.  I'm not sure if this helps you or not, but just figured
taht I would give it a spin as far as ideas are concerned.

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019, 10:21 AM Matt Turner  wrote:

> So I’ve updated to the newest version of the OS.
> It seems, to me, that when the password window comes up, and i hit
> VO+Shift+space, Vo just goes busy.
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Re: Odd issue trying to read menu on web site

[Erik Burggraaf]

well, to begin with, the actual menu on the site is two pictures embedded 
in the homepage. We are not going to get very far with that.


As a backup, there is a menu provided by a delivery company. Unfortunately, 
I have not been able to get the links two sections of the menu to work here 
on my phone.


fortunately, the link to the feedback form for the delivery company works 
just fine.


https://9fold.wufoo.com/forms/zzv2x441f33vwx/

Let the complaints begin!  



On November 19, 2018 12:34:04 PM Christine Grassman 
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Good day all:
I am attempting to read the menu of a restaurant nearby, and although there 
is a link which takes me to the menu, I cannot access the contents. A 
sighted person told me it is a pop-up, but there is no indication of 
anything. The web site is here:

https://manchimeansgood.com 
I have tried using different browsers; interacting; using Tables, etc. I 
cannot access the information, and there does not seem to be a way to 
download the menu.

Help or insight is appreciated.
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Accessible DVD authoring?

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Hi, does anybody have a solution for accessible DVD authoring on the Mac?  
I don't want to do reencoding or adjusting frames or anything like that.  I 
mainly want to add or remove chapters and titles, or take something off of 
the beginning or end of a video.


there used to be idvd, but it did not ship with my new Mac, and I don't 
think the accessibility was ever wonderful anyway

Thanks

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Re: Digital Voice Recorders and OS X 14.

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Hi Dan, if you don't get an answer to your questions, please email me off 
list at e...@erik-burggraaf.com.  in that case, I will see if I can get the 
demo unit from Special Needs computers and find out for sure one way or the 
other.


I don't see why it wouldn't work, but without trying it I would hate to say 
for sure.  In other ways, the Eltronex is a terrific unit! I want one very 
much!



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Hello list,
I'm thinking about purchasing the eltrinex digital voice recorder. The one 
that has built-in voice guidance for blind people.
Does anyone know if this unit can be connected to the mac to transfer 
files. Also can I move any firmware to the root of the recorder for 
updating, directly from the mac.

Thanks.



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Re: issue with Mojave

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Hello there,
Well, this issue normally can be addressed if you simply restart voiceover. I 
have experienced this with a new operating system. Not sure if this is related 
to what you are having, but when I did restart voiceover, it again did resume 
normal typing echo within the text edit field.

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>   If you can see a little, increase the mouse pointer size.
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>   As to Dropbox, if the app is already installed and you are prompted to sign 
> in, while VO will speak the fields as you navigate, it will not echo what you 
> are typing in. Enter your user ID then move VO and back so it will read it to 
> you. I have made Dropbox very aware of this but they need to hear from others 
> too..
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>> On 10/13/2018 6:58 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>> I did get it to work but it really is a pain, you have to use the trackpad 
>> to get the mouse in t the window and then click it, I will definitely be 
>> sending a report to Apple on this one, it will be interesting to see if it 
>> happens with my mac minis as well.
>>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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>>> I will try Ann's suggestion, just doing vo+shift+space does not seem to 
>>> work, I'm actually surprised this got through testing, I would consider 
>>> this to be a major bug or a show stopper, I may consider going back to high 
>>> sierra since I never had the problem there.
>>> 
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 Interesting, never had the problem in Sierra, that makes sense though, to 
 do a mouse click on the window. I can see good enough to know that there 
 is a box on the screen, I just can't read it or see good enough to move 
 the mouse to it, that is a major bug, I will try the mouse click idea.
 
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> This has carried over from High Sierra. It is worse in Mojave. Its hit 
> and miss. When you hear the "security agent has no window" press VO plus 
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>> Hey everyone, ok, found an odd issue with Mojave, wonder if anyone else 
>> has seen this, I'm not sure if it's voiceover related or the operating 
>> system itself. When moving or copying files to any place outside of your 
>> home folder, you are normally prompted for your password. However, in 
>> Mojave, voiceover says security agent has no windows, a finder window 
>> appears saying that it's preparing to copy files but since there is no 
>> way to enter the password, the only way out of this window is to force 
>> the finder to relaunch. This is on my new macbook air, have not tried it 
>> on my mac minis yet.
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Re: No way to import daisybooks into easyReader.

[Erik Burggraaf]

That would be me.  Have you found any way to get books into the IOS 
version?  ...Anything at all?  I don't see it.  So for example, if I sign 
in to cela library, I could presumably download books straight to the app.  
However, NNELS is not yet supported.  So if I download a daisy book from 
NNELS, is there any chance of getting it over to the IOS device for easyreader?


Dropbox would have been convenient, but I'll take anything.

Thanks,

Erik


On October 11, 2018 12:55:19 PM Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
SOmeone asked about importing Daisybooks to EasyReader from dropbox  using 
Iphone.

I now have tried this and sadly i can not find a way to do this.
This was very discouraging to me as i thought it would work as on android.
But one could always mail to dolphine computer and ask them for that feature.
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Question about dolphin easy reader

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi, can anybody tell me if the dolphin easy reader app for iOS allows you 
to import a daisy book from Dropbox?I just accomplished this no problem 
here on my Android phone, but this may be a whole different beast on iOS. 
Thanks for any information you can provide, as I don't have an iOS device 
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Re: question about transmission bittorrent client

[Erik Burggraaf]

I collect audience recorded live shows of a number of bands.
 The Trackers that share those types of things have minimum share ratios, 
and so you have to be very careful how much you download and how much you 
upload.

Best,

Erik


On October 9, 2018 12:18:07 AM Oriol Gómez  wrote:

200 torrents? you are a pirate pro dude! xd

On 10/8/18, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

That's terrible!  I can have upwards of 200 torrents to manage at a time.
I need an easy way to track the active ones, start and stop specific ones,
and find out ratios and other stats.  Can we find a developer and get this
fixed?  I may try it.The interface is ugly, but it's doing the right thing
when it comes to getting my transfers through.

Best,

Erik


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hi
very true, however you can hit command+i to bring up the inspector and
figure out the torrent name and its activity.

hope this helps.

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Hi any transmition users.  I was able to get this installed and working.
However, in the transfers list, voiceover only reports graphic graphic
graphic.  I can see globals showing that stuff is moving, and I get a
ding
when it finishes a download, but each entry in the list seems to be
represented by these three anonymous graphics.  Any suggestions
appreciated.

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Re: creating a website link on the dock?

[Erik Burggraaf]

This worked a treat, thanks.


On October 8, 2018 2:10:28 PM "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
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   Put the two lines into a text file with the URL you want.

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://www.apple.com

   Then press enter and save with the extension of .url.

   Not sure this can be added to the dock, never tried it. I know you
can save folders there.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 10/8/2018 10:24 AM, Erik Burggraaf wrote:

Hi, does any one know a keyboard friendly way to add a web shortcut to
the dock?  A quick google search shows drag and drop only and while this
is theoretically possible, I'd rather not.

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Re: question about transmission bittorrent client

[Erik Burggraaf]

That's terrible!  I can have upwards of 200 torrents to manage at a time.  
I need an easy way to track the active ones, start and stop specific ones, 
and find out ratios and other stats.  Can we find a developer and get this 
fixed?  I may try it.The interface is ugly, but it's doing the right thing 
when it comes to getting my transfers through.


Best,

Erik


On October 8, 2018 2:38:26 PM Oriol Gómez  wrote:

hi
very true, however you can hit command+i to bring up the inspector and
figure out the torrent name and its activity.

hope this helps.

On 10/8/18, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Hi any transmition users.  I was able to get this installed and working.
However, in the transfers list, voiceover only reports graphic graphic
graphic.  I can see globals showing that stuff is moving, and I get a ding
when it finishes a download, but each entry in the list seems to be
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question about transmission bittorrent client

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi any transmition users.  I was able to get this installed and working.  
However, in the transfers list, voiceover only reports graphic graphic 
graphic.  I can see globals showing that stuff is moving, and I get a ding 
when it finishes a download, but each entry in the list seems to be 
represented by these three anonymous graphics.  Any suggestions appreciated.


Thanks,

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creating a website link on the dock?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi, does any one know a keyboard friendly way to add a web shortcut to the 
dock?  A quick google search shows drag and drop only and while this is 
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Re: torrenting

[Erik Burggraaf]

I can't actually get uTorrent to install here. Even at that, the installer 
is so crammed with bloatware that I'm reluctant to even try.  I have been 
using folcs, but in terms of features it is very bare-bones, and it has 
recently started acting up. I will probably spend some of my day off seeing 
if I can pin down transmission.


Best,

Erik


On October 7, 2018 5:54:44 AM Eric Oyen  wrote:

Hmmm. That’s weird. I use uTorrent here without much difficulty. It’s ad 
box is a bit flaky, but everything else is easily accessible with 
voiceover. The one thing I can’t seem to get to work is the toolbar, but 
because I know virtually all of the required keystrokes for the client, I 
really don’t need it.


Anyway, whatever client floats your boat and works with your screen reader 
is fine by me. :)


-Eric



On Oct 7, 2018, at 1:16 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:

I use transmission, it's great. most accessible I've found so far.
UTorrent is a no no.

On 10/7/18, 'Kliphton Miller' via MacVisionaries
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The Pirate Bay still works for a site, and the client I use is bitt
torrent.


On Oct 6, 2018, at 8:29 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

does anybody on here download torrents using their Mac? if so, what's your
preferred site and what torrent client do you use?

I used to download from bitsnoop a lot but it's not there any more and all
torrent sites don't work the same way.

thanks.
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Re: Good BitTorrent client for Mac?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Thanks,

I don't object to paying, but I don't need the torrent search feature, and 
I wonder if there's a straight upload download client out there that will 
meet my needs?  How is transmission lately for example?


Best,

Erik


On July 11, 2018 4:54:38 PM "jeff `greene"  wrote:

Hi Eric,
I like Folx for mac but its not free. I believe its like $29.95. It
works great, never crashes, and you can search for and download
torrents from within the app.
HTH Jeff


On 7/11/18, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Hi all, I have a couple of Mac minis to set up, and I'm wondering about
BitTorrent client for Mac.

It's been at least 3 or 4 years since I looked into this. uTorrent was
headed downhill when last I used it, and I've been using the windows client

which is left an extraordinary bad taste in my mouth. if there is anything
out there that just works without any crap, I would love to know about it.
Thanks, Eric


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Good BitTorrent client for Mac?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi all, I have a couple of Mac minis to set up, and I'm wondering about 
BitTorrent client for Mac.


It's been at least 3 or 4 years since I looked into this. uTorrent was 
headed downhill when last I used it, and I've been using the windows client 
which is left an extraordinary bad taste in my mouth. if there is anything 
out there that just works without any crap, I would love to know about it. 
Thanks, Eric



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Re: Fwd: HIMS Introduces the All-New QBraille XL

[Erik Burggraaf]

This looks fantastic! I wonder what their trade-in offer will be for a 
braille Edge.


Best,

Erik


On July 5, 2018 5:28:07 PM "'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries" 
 wrote:


Hi all,

I just received this from HIMS.  I don't know anything beyond what is 
contained in this message, but thought I would share it since we've 
recently had a thread about braille displays.

Best,
Donna


Begin forwarded message:

From: "HIMS, Inc" 
Subject: HIMS Introduces the All-New QBraille XL
Date: July 5, 2018 at 3:29:23 PM CDT
To: dgoo...@siu.edu
Reply-To: tho...@hims-inc.com

 
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Introducing the All-New QBraille XL
 
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QBraille XL represents an entirely new type of Braille display. The 40-cell 
QBraille XL replaces modifier keys and special keystrokes with intuitively 
placed function, application, and system keys that you find on your 
standard QWERTY keyboard. With the QBraille XL, Alt+F4 means pressing Alt+F4.


Intuitive Productivity

The groundbreaking combination of Braille and QWERTY function keys means 
you no longer need your laptop keyboard, letting you get more done in less 
time.


Use QBraille XL’s arrow keys to navigate across tables, or use the 
dedicated control, shift, and arrow keys to quickly select text.


QBraille XL save seconds with every command, minutes with every task, and 
hours with every project.


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Compact Versatility

QBraille XL makes it easier than ever to multi-task like a pro. Quickly 
switch between Windows, Mac, iOS, and Android devices for sending emails, 
performing Google searches, sending a text, or using your favorite app all 
without lifting your hands.


QBraille XL also lets you switch between three Terminal, Keyboard, or 
Hybrid modes and pairs with up to six Bluetooth devices and 1 USB device at 
the same time.
Request a free demonstration 
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Finally, Something New in a Braille Display!


With QBraille XL:

Ctrl A = Select All
Ctrl C = Copy
Ctrl V = Paste
Ctrl O = Open
Ctrl P = Print
Ctrl S = Save
Alt F4 = Close Document
Alt Tab = Switch Between Documents
The best of both worlds - Braille input & QWERTY control
On-Board Notepad, DAISY Reader, Calendar, and more
Open .DOC, .DOCX, .RTF and .PDF documents in addition to .BRF and .TXT files
USB and Bluetooth with multi-channel pairing
Compatible with PC, MAC, iOS, and Android devices
Perfect for demanding work environments and those who want to be more 
productive

Specifications
Braille Display: 40 Cells
Keyboard Type: Perkins-Style input + QWERTY function keys
Supported File Formats: DOC, DOCX, BRF, TXT, RTF, PDF, DAISY
Flash Memory: SD card (SDHC) up to 32 GB
Interface: Power Button, USB Type-C port, SD slot, Power & Bluetooth LED 
indicators
Applications: Notepad, DAISY Reader, Scheduler, Alarm, Calculator, Clock, 
Stop Watch, Countdown Timer
Compatibility: JAWS, Window-Eyes, SuperNova, System Access, NVDA, VoiceOver 
for Mac and iOS, BrailleBack for Android, Mobile Speak, TALKS

Modes: 

Re: NAS from Synologie or WD MyCloud

[Erik Burggraaf]

Actually I still have my old pi2 with raspbian.  I had it's samba and 
tonido all configured.  Only two things were misssing.  I couldn't get my 
networkdrives to mount automatically because the large drives took too long 
to wake up and the mount process would time out.  Also, my drives would go 
offline if idle for 10 minutes.  I think I fixed the second issue.  It was 
in the onboard power settings of my probox.  The first issue was a tough 
nut.  I wasn't up to it at the time.


Otherwise, I liked that pi setup.

Best,

Erik


On June 20, 2018 6:16:45 PM Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Any unix based similar sollutions out there?
I may install Debian to use on a raspberry pi and connect to a big hard drive.
I have also thought of preparing my 2011 mac mini to act as a file server 
of some kind.

/A


20 juni 2018 kl. 14:17 skrev Erik Burggraaf :

For myself, I have a very interesting setup. I started with a mediasonic 
ProBox, which currently has 18 or 20 tb I was originally going to power it 
with a Raspberry Pi.  I had the setup I wanted about 90% complete, when I 
hit a major snag with my hard drives, and couldn't get it resolved. then I 
went out and bought a Windows 10 Micro PC for $150. This is a piece of 
plastic about the size of an Apple TV, with all of the features of a full 
PC.  The memory in this thing is low for practical purposes.  I scrimped 
because I wanted it exclusively for a file server, and for that single 
purpose, it works very well.


Then I installed tonido personal cloud and pointed it at my drives.  Now I 
have access to all my data in the cloud.  So, I can play audiobooks and 
music on my home server while on long car trips, and my family and friends 
can get in and listen as well.


The tonido server web interface leaves much to be desired but with patience 
it can all be done.  The IOS and android apps are accessible.  They were 
not totally user friendly when I started, but for my purposes they now work 
well.  I've spotted a new micro with double the ram for about $200, and I'm 
considering the upgrade.  As with most people I make recommendations for, I 
am finding that I sit on the file server and try to perform tasks it wasn't 
really intended for and doesn't really have the giddyup to handle.


This may be overkill for most people's purposes, but now it's set up, I 
really enjoy it.


Best,

Erik


On June 20, 2018 12:43:34 AM Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

Thanks Eric. Do you still use an NAS? Or what you rather use a cloud 
service like Dropbox or iCloud?





Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Am 19.06.2018 um 19:03 schrieb Erik Burggraaf :

My x bought wd mycloud and it worked really well.  The browser interface 
was fully accessible.  It connected to mac and windows desktops seemlessly 
across the network and it had fully accessible though not 100% cosey ios 
and android apps.  All in all, a great effort as of three years ago.  
Hopefully it's still the same.


Best,

Erik


On June 19, 2018 12:49:26 PM Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

Hi,

has anyone experiences which NAS is recommendable for VoiceOver users on 
the Mac and an i-device?


What I mean is which interface to control the NAS is most accessible to VO? 
I consider one by Synologie or WD MyCloud and I don’t want to buy one which 
I’m not able to use in the end.


Thanks and all the best
Jürgen

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Re: NAS from Synologie or WD MyCloud

[Erik Burggraaf]

For myself, I have a very interesting setup. I started with a mediasonic 
ProBox, which currently has 18 or 20 tb I was originally going to power it 
with a Raspberry Pi.  I had the setup I wanted about 90% complete, when I 
hit a major snag with my hard drives, and couldn't get it resolved. then I 
went out and bought a Windows 10 Micro PC for $150. This is a piece of 
plastic about the size of an Apple TV, with all of the features of a full 
PC.  The memory in this thing is low for practical purposes.  I scrimped 
because I wanted it exclusively for a file server, and for that single 
purpose, it works very well.


Then I installed tonido personal cloud and pointed it at my drives.  Now I 
have access to all my data in the cloud.  So, I can play audiobooks and 
music on my home server while on long car trips, and my family and friends 
can get in and listen as well.


The tonido server web interface leaves much to be desired but with patience 
it can all be done.  The IOS and android apps are accessible.  They were 
not totally user friendly when I started, but for my purposes they now work 
well.  I've spotted a new micro with double the ram for about $200, and I'm 
considering the upgrade.  As with most people I make recommendations for, I 
am finding that I sit on the file server and try to perform tasks it wasn't 
really intended for and doesn't really have the giddyup to handle.


This may be overkill for most people's purposes, but now it's set up, I 
really enjoy it.


Best,

Erik


On June 20, 2018 12:43:34 AM Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

Thanks Eric. Do you still use an NAS? Or what you rather use a cloud 
service like Dropbox or iCloud?





Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Am 19.06.2018 um 19:03 schrieb Erik Burggraaf :

My x bought wd mycloud and it worked really well.  The browser interface 
was fully accessible.  It connected to mac and windows desktops seemlessly 
across the network and it had fully accessible though not 100% cosey ios 
and android apps.  All in all, a great effort as of three years ago.  
Hopefully it's still the same.


Best,

Erik


On June 19, 2018 12:49:26 PM Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

Hi,

has anyone experiences which NAS is recommendable for VoiceOver users on 
the Mac and an i-device?


What I mean is which interface to control the NAS is most accessible to VO? 
I consider one by Synologie or WD MyCloud and I don’t want to buy one which 
I’m not able to use in the end.


Thanks and all the best
Jürgen

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Re: NAS from Synologie or WD MyCloud

[Erik Burggraaf]

My x bought wd mycloud and it worked really well.  The browser interface 
was fully accessible.  It connected to mac and windows desktops seemlessly 
across the network and it had fully accessible though not 100% cosey ios 
and android apps.  All in all, a great effort as of three years ago.  
Hopefully it's still the same.


Best,

Erik


On June 19, 2018 12:49:26 PM Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

Hi,

has anyone experiences which NAS is recommendable for VoiceOver users on 
the Mac and an i-device?


What I mean is which interface to control the NAS is most accessible to VO? 
I consider one by Synologie or WD MyCloud and I don’t want to buy one which 
I’m not able to use in the end.


Thanks and all the best
Jürgen

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Re: 13 apps for your iPhone that are better than the ones Apple made, Business Insider

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hum,  Not being super in love with the iphone, I kind'a sympathize here, 
but it sounds like what this person really wants is a nexus or a lumia.  I 
get it.  Apple doesn't play ball with other devices and microsoft and 
android do.  That's one reason why I'm an android guy, but we're basically 
saying android is better across the board.  Only a handful of these are 
hidden gems.


Some of this also comes from apple having incorporated so many features 
based on what was already successful.  Spotify did it before apple, and 
only when music streaming was successful did apple enter it's own service.  
Maps came late.  Fitbit did health way sooner and way better.  We know some 
of the apple stock apps just aren't up to the originals, but there you go.


I was hoping for more, but this was still a pretty good read.

Have fun,

Erik


On June 18, 2018 8:16:10 PM "M. Taylor"  wrote:

Hello All,

I thought I would post the following article as a point of interest but
please note that I am, in no way, endorsing or speaking to the VoiceOver
accessibility of any of them.

In fact, in some instances, I flatly disagree with the author.

Mark

13 apps for your iPhone that are better than the ones Apple made

By Dave Smith
Business Insider


Every iPhone comes with a slew of Apple's own first-party apps.

Thankfully, though, the App Store is overflowing with alternative apps, many
of which are better than Apple's.

Whether you're looking to organize your photos, get work done, or get around
town, we've scoured the App Store for the best apps that are better than the
default ones on your iPhone.

Instead of Mail, use Edison Email.
I try new email apps all the time, but after using Outlook for a while, I've
fallen in love with another app, Edison Email.
It's incredibly fast, highly customizable, and, most importantly, it's both
smarter and more proactive than any other email app I've used. It
automatically scans your emails for purchases, receipts, attachments,
calendar dates, and more, and it'll automatically put those emails into
separate, appropriately labeled folders that appear on your sidebar. It's
super nifty - you can  read my review of it here.
(Edison Email,  free)

Instead of Calendar, use Google Calendar.
I've used Google's calendar app on the desktop for years - but even if you
haven't, you'll feel right at home on Google Calendar, which is beautiful to
look at and easy to use.
Like Apple's Calendar, it can pull in data from Google, Facebook, and
iCloud, but it presents all the information in a much more useful way than
Apple's default app does. The top half of the screen shows you the whole
month, and the lower half of the screen shows you what's up next. You can
scroll down to see what's coming up, and you can tap the top right corner of
the screen to jump back to the present day. It's all incredibly intuitive.
(Google Calendar,  free)

Instead of Notes, use Evernote.
Apple's Notes for iOS has gotten better in recent years, but Evernote is
still the best way to create different types of notes and keep them
organized across all your devices.
With Evernote, you can create notes out from photos or text, flag notes to
revisit later, set reminders for yourself, and tag your notes in various
ways to stay organized. Better yet, if you take pictures of documents and
upload them to Evernote, its powerful search function can even scan those
PDFs and other documents. And, of course, Evernote syncs across all devices
- phones, tablets, laptops, and desktops.
(Evernote, free)

Instead of Maps, use Google Maps.
Apple's mapping and navigation app has gotten much better since its debut in
2012, but Google Maps is still the most reliable, most detailed,
easiest-to-use mapping and navigation app for travel, whether you're
walking, driving, biking, taking a bus, taking a train, or hailing a car.
Google says its Maps data is crowdsourced from "oodles of Android phones
moving through the world" and processed by machine learning algorithms that
study traffic patterns to give you the quickest route every time.
(Google Maps, free)

Instead of Voice Memos, use Recordium.
Apple's Voice Memos app is nice, but it doesn't give you a great way to
organize or annotate all your recordings. Enter Recordium, which lets you
edit your clips right in the app and annotate any part of the recording. It
will even sync with your favorite cloud storage service like Google Drive or
Dropbox.
(Recordium Pro,  $9.99)

Instead of Apple Music, use Spotify.
Apple Music is Apple's built-in music streaming service - you can still load
it up with music from your iTunes library for free, but if you pay $10 a
month, you'll get access to Apple's entire music catalog. Spotify, however,
is still the most polished music app out there, and in my opinion the best
experience that's actually worth your money.
Spotify Premium costs about the same per month as Apple Music, but Spotify
organizes music into clever ways that Apple does not. Aside fr

Re: Laptops: When did things change?

[Erik Burggraaf]

I make things difficult on myself by forgoing monitors whenever possible.  
Most macs have monitors included but I have gravitated towards the mini, 
since smart devices do nearly all of my computing these days except for 
serving files and the development work for my programming courses.





On June 15, 2018 12:04:51 PM Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

Yeah, it already is a little frustrating at times.  So far, the Seeing AI 
app has been my friend.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 15, 2018, at 09:38, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Hum, that's probably not great for us, especially as computers run cooler 
and are built more solid state.  We will have to do some clever manouvers 
at times just to figure out whether the thing is powered off, or whether 
it's on and not making sound for some reason.


On June 15, 2018 11:12:23 AM Tim Kilburn  wrote:


Hi,

Certain units still have the chime as part of the startup process.  As far 
as I know, it is not a user configurable setting.  Sometimes, in some of 
the newer machines, resetting the PRAM will allow the chime to sound, but 
only during the reset process.  Regular and future restarts will not sound 
the chime.  The MacBook Pro line and many of the newer iMacs do not sound 
the chime anymore.  I'm guessing that it is the way of future Macs as they 
redesign various models.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
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On Jun 14, 2018, at 23:56, Shawn Krasniuk <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:


My 2017 Air emits the chime, and I didn't have to do anything to get it to 
do so. It sounded the chime out of the box.


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On Jun 13, 2018, at 2:22 AM, christopher hallsworth 
mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:


I still have the chime on my late 2011 Macbook Pro. It's all about the 
hardware, somewhat. Newer macs don't emit a chime, older ones do.


On 13 Jun 2018, at 08:15, Simon Fogarty <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:


Chime on boot was taken away with sierra 10.12.x,

And the touch bar was added in the late 2016 mac book pros I believe.

But not all MBP have to have the touch bar.

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Subject: Laptops: When did things change?

Anyone recall when it was that Apple removed the physical function keys and 
replaced them with the touch sensitive strip? Put differently, what models 
were the last to have physical keys?


Similarly, what models were the last to have the chime on boot?

I recognize this is somewhat of an oddball question, but if anyone recalls 
any of these details, I'd be most grateful.


Janina

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Re: Laptops: When did things change?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hum, that's probably not great for us, especially as computers run cooler 
and are built more solid state.  We will have to do some clever manouvers 
at times just to figure out whether the thing is powered off, or whether 
it's on and not making sound for some reason.





On June 15, 2018 11:12:23 AM Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

Certain units still have the chime as part of the startup process.  As far 
as I know, it is not a user configurable setting.  Sometimes, in some of 
the newer machines, resetting the PRAM will allow the chime to sound, but 
only during the reset process.  Regular and future restarts will not sound 
the chime.  The MacBook Pro line and many of the newer iMacs do not sound 
the chime anymore.  I'm guessing that it is the way of future Macs as they 
redesign various models.


Later...

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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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On Jun 14, 2018, at 23:56, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

My 2017 Air emits the chime, and I didn't have to do anything to get it to 
do so. It sounded the chime out of the box.


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On Jun 13, 2018, at 2:22 AM, christopher hallsworth 
mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:


I still have the chime on my late 2011 Macbook Pro. It's all about the 
hardware, somewhat. Newer macs don't emit a chime, older ones do.


On 13 Jun 2018, at 08:15, Simon Fogarty > wrote:


Chime on boot was taken away with sierra 10.12.x,

And the touch bar was added in the late 2016 mac book pros I believe.

But not all MBP have to have the touch bar.

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Subject: Laptops: When did things change?

Anyone recall when it was that Apple removed the physical function keys and 
replaced them with the touch sensitive strip? Put differently, what models 
were the last to have physical keys?


Similarly, what models were the last to have the chime on boot?

I recognize this is somewhat of an oddball question, but if anyone recalls 
any of these details, I'd be most grateful.


Janina

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Re: keystroke for jumping to the top of a list in mail

[Erik Burggraaf]

in in my experience, option up or option down arrows worked up to about 
snow leopard, and then it changed to something more obscure.  I think 
either command option up and down, or ccommand option shift up and down.  
Up of course goes to top, and down to the bottom.  If this doesn't help, 
let me know and I'll try some things on my new mac.


Best,

Erik


On May 31, 2018 9:54:54 AM Jeff Berwick  wrote:

I use classic view in mail and list view in finder and it works.  You may 
have to interact with the list.

Jeff



On May 31, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Daniel McGee  wrote:

Just tried that and it didn’t work for me.


On 31 May 2018, at 14:42, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

Option up or down.

Jeff



On May 31, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Daniel McGee  wrote:

Hi all

Quick question. On the Mac, is there a keystroke that can jump you to the 
top or bottom of a message list.


Thanks

Daniel

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Re: Is It Possible to Connect a PC to a Mac via USB

[Erik Burggraaf]

These days, they pretty much do what you tell them once they're programmed. 
I had a samsung that I could completely configure myself.  I cabled it usb 
into my mac, then used a mac app that came with the printer to enter wifi 
settings and verify the connection status.  Once it was connected to the 
wifi, I pulled the plug and it all worked.


A lot of them have accessible web interfaces now too.  So, you plug in a 
standard network cable between printer and mac, or even printer and router. 
Then you log on using a browser and set up wifi.  Then pull the cord and 
it works.


My personal favourite brands are brother and lexmark, with samsung in the 
mix too.  I haven't bought a printer in 7 years though, so couldn't 
recommend a specific model.


Best,

Erik


On May 30, 2018 1:28:01 PM Bill Gallik  wrote:

I need to explain why I am reluctant to use a network printer.

The reason is simply that I’m totally blind and live by myself.  I had 
connected a network printer when I lived in Superior and whenever 
electricity was lost due to storms I would have a real PITA getting 
somebody over to reconnect the network printer what with needing to type in 
IDs and passwords without spoken prompts.


If anybody could suggest a network printer that I would be able to manage 
without trying to get sighted assistance I would certainly be open to that.



- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin."
- US Editor and Satirist, H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

On May 30, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

I don't understand such aversion, but the simplest solution would be to 
plug in a printer via usb to the mini.  That's your most secure and 
streamlined process considering your resistance to putting printers on the 
network.


Network printing is out.files over the network is out.  I'm afraid it's 
either usb direct, or the shoe based network for you.


Best,

Erik

On May 30, 2018 12:45:00 PM Bill Gallik  wrote:


 I have no intentions of connecting a printer to the network nor the Mac.

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- “Last week I was diagnosed with Insomnia, now I’m just so tired of it.”
- Contributor Unknown



On May 30, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Erik Burggraaf <mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com>> wrote:


Why not just print from your mini and ipad?

Best,

Erik


On May 30, 2018 12:19:55 PM Bill Gallik <mailto:wfgal...@icloud.com>> wrote:


A bit of background here; I have an old PC (Vista) I use for scanning 
documents and printing out whatever.  This PC is not connected into the 
network router I’m using with my Mini Mac, iPhone and iPad because I don’t 
care to deal with the anti-virus software so necessary when made vulnerable 
by using network connections.


However, I would like to be able to readily transfer files from my Mini-Mac 
to the PC (PDF documents for printing).  Is it prudently feasible to 
connect the PC to the Mac-Mini via USB (or another possible hard-wired 
approach) such that the PC would appear as a device to the Mac? A device 
that could be browsed much like any other device?




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Re: Is It Possible to Connect a PC to a Mac via USB

[Erik Burggraaf]

I don't understand such aversion, but the simplest solution would be to 
plug in a printer via usb to the mini.  That's your most secure and 
streamlined process considering your resistance to putting printers on the 
network.


Network printing is out.  Transfering files over the network is out.  I'm 
afraid it's either usb direct, or the shoe based network for you.


Best,

Erik


On May 30, 2018 12:45:00 PM Bill Gallik  wrote:

I have no intentions of connecting a printer to the network nor the Mac.

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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On May 30, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Why not just print from your mini and ipad?

Best,

Erik


On May 30, 2018 12:19:55 PM Bill Gallik  wrote:

A bit of background here; I have an old PC (Vista) I use for scanning 
documents and printing out whatever.  This PC is not connected into the 
network router I’m using with my Mini Mac, iPhone and iPad because I don’t 
care to deal with the anti-virus software so necessary when made vulnerable 
by using network connections.


However, I would like to be able to readily transfer files from my Mini-Mac 
to the PC (PDF documents for printing).  Is it prudently feasible to 
connect the PC to the Mac-Mini via USB (or another possible hard-wired 
approach) such that the PC would appear as a device to the Mac? A device 
that could be browsed much like any other device?




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Re: Is It Possible to Connect a PC to a Mac via USB

[Erik Burggraaf]

Why not just print from your mini and ipad?

Best,

Erik


On May 30, 2018 12:19:55 PM Bill Gallik  wrote:

A bit of background here; I have an old PC (Vista) I use for scanning 
documents and printing out whatever.  This PC is not connected into the 
network router I’m using with my Mini Mac, iPhone and iPad because I don’t 
care to deal with the anti-virus software so necessary when made vulnerable 
by using network connections.


However, I would like to be able to readily transfer files from my Mini-Mac 
to the PC (PDF documents for printing).  Is it prudently feasible to 
connect the PC to the Mac-Mini via USB (or another possible hard-wired 
approach) such that the PC would appear as a device to the Mac? A device 
that could be browsed much like any other device?




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Re: Is there an easy way to do math on the Mac?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi Jonathan,  I was looking for a math processor / math editor, but It's 
just as well I wasn't clear because I would not have wanted to miss this 
product.  It looks like a dream.  Did some one sue them or something?  Hahahah.


I can't wait to try it.  I'm actually getting excited about my maths this 
semester.


Thanks,

Erik


On May 27, 2018 12:27:30 PM Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Our office uses a variety of the DESMOS system for helping with Math 
accessibility.


I have not specifically looked at Algebra, but perhaps this page could be 
of help:


https://www.desmos.com/accessibility

On May 27, 2018, at 8:26 AM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Hi, I have an advanced algebra class coming up in September. I bought 
chatty Infinity for Windows, because that's what the college wants me to 
have.  Now I'm finding that the number of steps and programs I will have to 
use in order to make that sit up work is so convoluted, it might be easier 
to just use a Perkins brailler.


Does the Mac have a good solution for reading and writing math documents?

Thanks,

Erik


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Is there an easy way to do math on the Mac?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi, I have an advanced algebra class coming up in September. I bought 
chatty Infinity for Windows, because that's what the college wants me to 
have.  Now I'm finding that the number of steps and programs I will have to 
use in order to make that sit up work is so convoluted, it might be easier 
to just use a Perkins brailler.


Does the Mac have a good solution for reading and writing math documents?

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Re: Braille Displays

[Erik Burggraaf]

It's really painful for me to put this out there, but if you're looking for 
something vario ultra like without getting embroiled in their financial 
situation, how about the focus 40 fifth generation?  I haven't seen one yet 
and so this is not an endorsement.  Also I don't enjoy the politics of vfo 
and so this is not a recommendation.  However, it seems that some one 
recognized the low build quality of the focus 40 and decided to improve it 
right when baum was week.  So on paper, the focus 40 fifth generation has 
individually built cells with shock absorbing technology to withstand 
droping.  It also connects to four bluetooth and one usb devices and allows 
for fast switching as with the baum.  I don't think it has the vibrate 
feature.  At least, it's not in the brochure.


So, I don't love it, but the focus may be an option if you can not get hold 
of a vario or if you decide the bankrupsy issue is too much for you to take on.


Personally I think it's time for the braille edge to get an update to 
support multiple devices.  I just acquired one and as a bit of a device 
junky, I really miss this feature even though I've never had it.


Best,

Erik


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   I have the opportunity to replace my Braille Edge. Donna, I hope you
will chime in.

   I can choose just about anything but will limit my choice to either
another Edge or the Vario Ultra 40. Given that Baum is in bankruptcy,
the question is then what about tech support. Is the Vario Ultra still a
good bet?

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Re: Paragon NTFS versus Tuxara or any cheep alternative?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Tuexera is 40 bucks.  I understand that is a big outlay for private use of 
someone on a fixed income, but by enterprise software standards, I think 
it's very reasonable.



On March 19, 2018 7:20:40 PM Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks so much for that, however, if you or anyone has an alternative 
cheaper than this?




On Mar 19, 2018, at 8:13 PM, Erik Burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:

It should be.  I haven't owned a computer  for years until last month, and 
it's still in the box because I haven't had time or inclination to set it up.


It was very reliable as long as I used it.




On March 19, 2018 1:24:19 PM Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

but is it working now?


On Mar 19, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Erik Burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:

I have been very happy with tuexera, although I'm not super pleased with 
the administration that runs that product. After purchase, I had so much 
trouble getting my license issued, I was forced to go find a pirated version.





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Hi all:
I need to percious something form my mac that can open NTFS flash drives,
frankly it’s so important in my work to do so,
need your advice to get the cheepest thing.
will i buy the Paragon ntfs, or Tuxara, or do you have any other suggestion.
Thanks in advance

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Re: Paragon NTFS versus Tuxara or any cheep alternative?

[Erik Burggraaf]

It should be.  I haven't owned a computer  for years until last month, and 
it's still in the box because I haven't had time or inclination to set it up.


It was very reliable as long as I used it.




On March 19, 2018 1:24:19 PM Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

but is it working now?


On Mar 19, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Erik Burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:

I have been very happy with tuexera, although I'm not super pleased with 
the administration that runs that product. After purchase, I had so much 
trouble getting my license issued, I was forced to go find a pirated version.





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Hi all:
I need to percious something form my mac that can open NTFS flash drives,
frankly it’s so important in my work to do so,
need your advice to get the cheepest thing.
will i buy the Paragon ntfs, or Tuxara, or do you have any other suggestion.
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Re: Paragon NTFS versus Tuxara or any cheep alternative?

[Erik Burggraaf]

I have been very happy with tuexera, although I'm not super pleased with 
the administration that runs that product. After purchase, I had so much 
trouble getting my license issued, I was forced to go find a pirated version.





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Hi all:
I need to percious something form my mac that can open NTFS flash drives,
frankly it’s so important in my work to do so,
need your advice to get the cheepest thing.
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Re: A Treat for Burger Lovers, Everywhere

[Erik Burggraaf]

There is a Carl's Junior app. I tried it a couple of years ago when I was 
living in the state's part time. It was pretty terrible. Best, Erik



On March 12, 2018 8:27:21 AM Michael Busboom <mbusb...@gmail.com> wrote:

If I still lived in the States, I’d lobby hard for an In’nOut app! I’d also 
look for a Carl’s Junior app, too.




On 12.03.2018, at 09:27, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

I'm sorry what?

A macdonalds app?

You yanks are dam crazy,

We don't even have a star bucks app, mind you they put cream in their coffee,
What's wrong wit black coffee!!?

And in my case being gluten free macdonalds doesn't have a lot I can eat.

And I really miss their apple pies!

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Hmmm, my primary reason for using this app is to get my free 6-piece 
chicken nuggets when my local baseball team scores 6 runs or more!




M. Taylor writes:

Hello Everyone,

During the past two weeks, I have been using the McDonalds app on my 8 Plus.


I am delighted to report that, at the time of this writing, all
aspects of the app are VoiceOver accessible.

To me, the primary benefit of using the app is to read the menu which,
by the way, has been changing a great deal, of late.

Also, I am enjoying all of the app deals that are available when you
purchase your items through the app.  I strongly suggest that you use
Apple Pay when purchasing through the app.  Also, remember that the
great deals are only available when you buy your food via the app.

Please remember that in order to use the app with all of those great
deals, you will need to create an account which includes providing an
email address and setting up a password.

So, here is the basic scenario:

1.
You decide to eatj-in or take-out McDonalds.

2.
You open the app to see what deals are available to you.  This is
really the fun part as the deals can truly save you some serious
money.  You can also just browse the menu.

3.
Using a shopping cart system, you add your items to your cart.  Don't
worry, you can remove any item at any time.  You can also customize
your items at you add them.

4.
If you have given the app permission, it will tell you the closest
McDonalds location to you and give you the option to purchase your
items from that location or from any location you prefer.
Personally, I place my orders from the parking lot of the McDonalds.
Or, a couple of days ago, I just went in, sat down at a table, and
placed my order via the app.

5.
Once you've finalized your order and selected the location, it's time
to pay.  I have only used the Apple Pay method so cannot speak to
entering credit card data.

6.
Once this is done, you are ask if you will be dining in or taking out
or driving through.  Make your selection.

7.
Now, you will be told that your order has been received and is being
prepared.  You will also see a number on your screen.

8.
Go into the location, drive up, etc and show the employee your screen
and they will bring your order to you.

This last step can be different for us as visually impaired people;
for sighted people, the number that is displayed on the iOS app is
also displayed on an overhead display screen in the restaurant.
Therefore, a sighted person can see when the order is ready and just
walk up to the counter and pick up the order.

Okay, that's about it.

Let me add that it is very important that you be patient with yourself
and the app, the first couple of times that you use it.  There are a
lot of confirmation screens that you must become familiar with, at
first.  Also, if you can, have a sighted person with you the first
time you use the app as this may help you grasps certain elements of
the process.  This is not to say that you cannot use the app, for the
first time, by yourself, but I suggest that you get sighted assistance 
initially, if possible.


Good Luck, Enjoy, and let us know how it goes.

Mark


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Re: Standing on the crossroad.

[Erik Burggraaf]

I feel very lucky. When the technology upheaval took place, windows and 
Symbian were on the way out, iPhone and Android were on the way in, I was 
running a technology training company, and I got to try and use both. I was 
able to justify purchasing both when they were new, and I've been able to 
follow their progress for many years. I have substantial money invested in 
both application platforms. I love the variety of devices and the carrier 
Freedom offered by Android. I love the fact that there are very good phones 
at very low prices. I love Android gestures. To me, they make a lot more 
sense than some of the iPhone gestures. I love Braille on iPhone. There's 
no reason why Braille on Android should be as primitive as it actually is. 
The iPhone is fast, powerful, recognizable, and has a lot more 
accessibility features, although Android is starting to catch up a little 
bit. I don't love the fragmentation of accessibility across Android 
devices, and the fact that manufacturers can ignore accessibility standards 
when designing their launchers and proprietary software.


I have a high-end HTC phone, and I like it very much. I don't see myself 
ever owning an iPhone, but I don't see myself ever being without an iPad, 
iPod, or some other high-performing Apple device. I don't use iOS all the 
time, but I love having it around for the few times when I want it.  I am 
not willing to pay the carrier overage that I would have to pay if I switch 
to an iPhone. Canadians pay some of the highest cell phone costs in the 
world, and anything I can do to keep my costs down I'm in favor of.


I'm sorry to hear about the trouble you had with languages. Language 
support has gotten much better in the last year or two, but if the phone is 
not going to come up talking in your language, then it doesn't meet your needs.


Best,

Erik


On February 28, 2018 3:59:25 PM Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi friends!
I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a 
year ago.

So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
things were going nuts on it.

So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language 
but that is the biggest lie in the world.
So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the 
Iphone Se i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android 
broke down.

Now its broken down and guess what.
I am back to the Iphone SE.
I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or 
the ANdroid way.

I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
BUt i want your help to decide.
Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.

Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using 
it but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.

Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
What do you all think.
Sorry for the very long post.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Re: What you need to know about unlocked phones vs. locked phones - CNET

[Erik Burggraaf]

Locking phones is an antitrust practice, and should be illegal. In 
December, Canada made it illegal to sell locked phones on a carrier. This 
is a giant step forward for Wireless in Canada, and I love it!


Third-party providers sell unlock codes for 5 or $10 a piece, and so, 
locking a phone is no deterrent at all to someone who can get $1,000 for 
scamming an iPhone from Verizon.


Cell phone providers have gotten away with running roughshod over customers 
for 40 years, and it's time they paid back what they owe. Not that I'm in 
favor of stealing phones from carriers. I just don't see why the customer 
should have to pay the cost of theft from a large corporation.


Best,

Erik


On February 17, 2018 8:49:21 PM "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

Unlocked phones vs. locked phones: Why you should care
In this edition of Ask Maggie, CNET's Marguerite Reardon breaks down what
you need to know about the carrier practice of locking phones.
By Marguerite Reardon, February 17, 2018 5:00 AM PST

FAQ

Should you get an unlocked phone?
The US wireless market is more competitive than ever, which is great news
for consumers who have lots of choices when it comes choosing a service
provider.
But one barrier still exists when trying to switch carriers: the locked
smartphone.

The end of wireless contracts marked a watershed trend for consumers because
it finally opened the door for them to more easily shop around for
alternative wireless carriers. But the software locks that carriers put on
phones restricting its use on other networks still prevent many consumers
from having total freedom when it comes to choosing a provider.

Now Verizon, the only wireless carrier that sold its phones unlocked out of
the box, is reversing course. The company said earlier this week it would
begin locking the phones it sells to consumers for an undetermined period of
time, which will prevent them from using a SIM card from another carrier.
But Verizon promised it would eventually unlock the device after activation.
The company hasn't said how long that period would be.

Verizon said it's doing this to deter criminals from stealing phones, which
are often stolen en route to retail stores or from the stores themselves.
Unlocked phones make attractive targets because they can be resold on the
black market or used overseas with different carriers. That's particularly
the case for iPhones, which are a top target for thieves because of their
high resale value.

Because I get so many questions about the difference between locked versus
unlocked phones and what it means to the average wireless customer, I've put
together this FAQ for my Ask Maggie readers to summarize the basics.

What's the difference between a locked and unlocked phone?
The difference is that a locked phone has a software code on it that
prevents you from using it on another network. An unlocked phone either
doesn't have the software lock on it or someone was able to get a code that
unlocks the software. Once a device is unlocked, you can pop out the SIM
card and put in a different SIM and get service.

What's the benefit of having an unlocked phone?
The biggest benefit of having an unlocked phone is that if you want to
switch wireless operators, you can easily do that. All you have to do is pop
in a new SIM and sign up for service. There's no need to buy a new phone.
This is great because it lets you shop around for the cheapest service
instead of being stuck with a particular carrier because you don't want to
buy a new phone.

This flexibility can also come in handy for people traveling overseas. It's
usually less expensive to use a local wireless service while traveling
abroad. And again, you simply pop out the SIM card in your phone and replace
it with one from a local carrier. And voila! You will have a new local
number and it will be cheaper to make calls in country and access the
internet than if you used a US carrier's service that would require roaming
on the foreign network.

Does GSM vs CDMA still matter?
Yes, the voice networks of US wireless carriers still use two fundamentally
different technologies GSM and CDMA. Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, while AT
and T-Mobile along with most of the rest of the world use GSM.

The good news is that phones are a bit more compatible and portable among
carriers than they were a few years ago. But phone makers, like Apple, still
tend to make multiple versions of their phones so you need to know which
model you're buying before you can know if you can take it to another
carrier.
For instance, Apple sells two versions of  the iPhone 7, 7 Plus, 8, 8 Plus
and X. Unlocked versions of these phones that aren't sold through a carrier
are compatible on all four US carriers. The iPhones sold through Verizon or
Sprint can also be used on both CDMA and GSM networks, which means they are
compatible with AT and T-Mobile. But iPhones sold through AT and
T-Mobile don't include modems for CDMA, so they can't be used f

Re: Mail clients other than apple

[Erik Burggraaf]

How about Microsoft Outlook? It's apparently very usable on iOS, maybe it's 
getting just as good for Mac. I don't have any way to test it out myself 
yet, but that's the only other potentially viable alternative I can think 
of. Best, Erik



On January 26, 2018 5:55:11 PM Daniel McGee <danielmcgee...@icloud.com> wrote:




Hello all



Can anyone here recommend any third party mail clients that are accessible 
with VoiceOver and work between ios and Mac? Other than the default apple 
mail client.



No particular reason, I just fancied trying out something new!



Regards



Daniel


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RE: Contact data for Microsoft's dedicated accessibility help desk

[Erik Burggraaf]

I on the other hand, had a rancid experience with this department.  They 
refused to help me with office because I was using a mobile version.  
Still, nothing ventured, nothing gained, right?


Best,

Erik


On January 15, 2018 3:34:20 PM "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

Hello Janina,

Thank you for posting this info.

Yes, the techs at this number are excellent.

I have called them several times during the past two years and they have 
resolved my issues, beautifully.


Mark

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 5:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Contact data for Microsoft's dedicated accessibility help desk

Hi All:

For everyone who's interested in contact data for the dedicated 
accessibility support desk service offered by Microsoft, the web page you 
want to bookmark is:


https://support.microsoft.com/answerdesk/accessibility


They have a phone number you can call in the U.S.:

+1 800 936 5900

I have it on good authority these are specialists trained especially to 
help persons with disabilities use Windows and Office. They're based in Denver.


Janina

Jonathan Cohn writes:
Well Virtiual box has a pretty good command line interface. Did you get the 
number for the Microsoft Accessibility help desk?



Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 13, 2018, at 11:09 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Hi, Anders:
>
> Yeah, I'm starting to be tired of handing VMware a few hundred $$
> every few years.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of switching to VirtualBox. I expect a
> steeper learning curve, but more consistent maintanance.
>
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi Janina!
>> Yeah typically i also have a tight budget this month.
>> I had to pay 150 bucks for repairing the display of my moto g5 and i 
think i was stupid leaving it for repair as i have a nokia 8 now too.

>> Therefore i can’t buy the upgrade for vmware fusion.
>> Very frustrating.
>> /A
>>
>>> 12 jan. 2018 kl. 07:46 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>:

>>>
>>> Hi, Anders:
>>>
>>> I suspect that option might still be there for the paid version.
>>> It certainly was last time I used VMware, which was version 8.5.0
>>>
>>> All I'm saying is that the option is not there in the 30day trial
>>> status of VMware 10.1.1.
>>>
>>> I upgraded the other day, through a couple iterations as directed
>>> by the VMware tool itself, from 8.5.0 all the way to version
>>> 10.1.1, but I did not opt to pay for a license as my funds are
>>> typically tight early January.
>>>
>>> Janina
>>>
>>> Anders Holmberg writes:
>>>> Hi!
>>>>> From what i understand you should be able to move the bootcamp to a 
virtual machine.
>>>> But i haven’t done this so i can’t say for sure but when i pressed 
command n i found a table with a lot of options.

>>>> One of these options was to use a bootcamp partition.
>>>> /A
>>>>
>>>>> 11 jan. 2018 kl. 00:46 skrev Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Janina,
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I’m tired of this and I’m going to get some sleep.
>>>>>
>>>>> My MacBook Air 2013 uses a driver Cirrus Audio CS4208 X64 driver. I 
have found several Apple resources then I found this Microsoft resource.

>>>>>
>>>>> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-har
>>>>> dware/windows-10-and-macbook-air-external-speaker/332a9694-3636-
>>>>> 456e-bb55-4894bd066dd8
>>>>> <https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-ha
>>>>> rdware/windows-10-and-macbook-air-external-speaker/332a9694-3636
>>>>> -456e-bb55-4894bd066dd8>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where as Apple tell us to get the latest driver this article suggests 
a roll back may solve the issue. I’ve tried downloading from a site but 
meet a graphical challenge.

>>>>>
>>>>> Let us know if you crack it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gena
>>>>>
>>>>> “Blindness is not a handicap, it is something I have always lived 
with. The real handicap is the prejudices people have about blindness.”

>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Hinson 2011
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 21:07, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk 
<mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:

Re: A few questions about using braille displays to browse the web

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi,  You can use the cursor routing keys on most displays to perform the 
default action for any object associated with that cell.  So, if you have 
three dock icons or a row of three or four links, press one of the cursor 
routing keys associated with the link or icon you want and it should 
activate.  Depending on your display, a double press might be required.


Hope this helps,

Erik



On December 5, 2017 2:00:41 AM Des Delgadillo <desdelgadi...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi all,

Please forgive me for the basic question, but up until now I’ve only been 
using my braille display with my iPhone and very occasionally to proof word 
docs on my Mac. I’m wanting to use it more for browsing the web, maybe even 
using it as a bluetooth remote of sorts when I’m too lazy to get up and 
walk to my laptop because it’s 2017.


I notice when reading web pages that links are grouped on the same line. Is 
there a way to navigate to a certain link and click it with only the 
display without having to use the keyboard at all? I notice this same 
phenomenon with the dock. Is this possible or am I just over-estimating the 
power of the braille display?


If anyone can point me to some beginners guides, that might be really 
helpful too.


Thanks in advance for all the direction.

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Re: Fully Accessible Torrent Client (details inside)

[Erik Burggraaf]

This used to be accessible via the control click menu in the files tab.  
Are you saying they removed the option?  That would be very annoying.  It's 
been over a year since I used it, so maybe things have changed.


Best,

Erik


On November 14, 2017 11:43:10 PM Des Delgadillo <desdelgadi...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Hi all,

I’ve noticed that for the most part UTorrent is quite accessible on the 
Mac, with one notable exception. When downloading torrent files, the user 
is able to select which files in the torrent they’d like to download, so 
that if they’re downloading a particularly large file, they don’t have to 
download the entire thing but only what is selected. Unfortunately, there 
doesn’t seem to be an accessible way to do this on UTorrent. Does anyone 
have any tips and tricks for how to do this with the program, or are there 
any other programs that are more usable than UTorrent? Any help is greatly 
appreciated.


—Des

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RE: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

[Erik Burggraaf]

Perhaps the EC Technology board you are looking at is a new one.  When I 
bought the one that I used for my girlfriend, my impression was that it 
connected to three devices. Unfortunately when we got it, I found out that 
wasn't the case.


I recommend avoiding the keyboards that have track pads. My experience of 
the keyboards that do not have track pads, is that they have scissor Keys 
which is what you want. My experience of keyboards that do have the 
trackpad, is that they have a different style of keys which is harder to 
press and not easy to type on. They are Chiclet style Keys, like the ones 
that used to be built into thumb keyboards that came with phones.





On November 10, 2017 7:22:10 PM Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi Erik,

Yeah the EC Technology board I was looking at did seemingly do three 
devices, but then so as you mentioned did the 2 iClever boards I looked at, 
both iClever boards folded up to fit in the pocket but one has a touch pad 
on the right hand end and one doesn’t,
The one with the touch pad doesn’t ship to NZ, nor the ec technology board 
the iClever without the touch pad does ship down under.



Guess I’ll go back to looking again at them

Cheers,
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Erik Burggraaf

Sent: Saturday, 11 November 2017 12:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone


Hi Simon, I think the iclever keyboard that I recommended has a model 
ending in 06. The model ending in 06 folds in half, while the model ending 
in 03 folds in thirds,  similar to the EC Technology keyboard you mentioned.


I actually owned the EC Technology keyboard, and I can highly recommend it. 
It does not connect to more than one device at a time, but in other ways it 
is equivalent to the iclever 03 or 06. Another derivative of the EC 
Technology keyboard is the esynic folding Bluetooth keyboard, which you can 
also find reviewed on inclusive Android. I am currently using the esynic.  
While it is an excellent keyboard overall, the Accent key is broken and 
dumps random accent characters into the text as I type. So, I'm not really 
as happy with it as I was with the EC Technology. My sister and I bought 
these keyboards at the same time, and she is using her as without any 
issues. I guess I'm just a lucky guy. The EC Technology keyboard lasted for 
approximately 3 years. I consider that excellent value for money.


If you don't need the connectivity options from the iclever, then I think 
you'll be very happy with any of these keyboards. Go ahead and buy 
whichever one is on sale, and will ship to your location.


Best,

Erik

On November 10, 2017 4:01:18 PM Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

Which one did you go for in the end?

I’m looking at 2 currently one is the device suggested by erik, the iClever 
Bk03
But I’m also looking at the EC Tech folding bt keyboard which is slightly 
more expensive but seems to have a higher rating



But the EC Tech device can’t be shipped to NZ,
But will be interested to hear what you think of the KB you get.

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin

Sent: Saturday, 11 November 2017 12:42 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

Well, I'm getting it for my birthday.  I'll let everyone know what I think.
Cheers,
donna
On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Erik Burggraaf 
<e...@erik-burggraaf.com<mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com>> wrote:


I don't have this keyboard myself, only because I can't buy from 
amazon.com<http://amazon.com/> anymore. I'm not sure why most of us need to 
iOS devices.  One is enough for me. Regardless, I have been interested in 
how this keyboard determines its pairings. As far as I'm concerned, 
Bluetooth is Bluetooth is Bluetooth. If you were going to go to the trouble 
to make a 3 in 1 Bluetooth connection for a keyboard, you wouldn't 
restricted by device would you? I've also wondered what would happen if you 
tried to pair the keyboard up with a Mac. The spec is very specific that 
it's Windows, IOS, and Android. There's no reason why it shouldn't connect 
up to a Mac just fine, but what would actually happen if you tried it?
I actually have one of each, iOS, Android, and Windows devices. So, this is 
actually the perfect keyboard for me. If anyone is planning to buy, I would 
be interested in PayPal and someone the money, getting them to order me 
one, and ship it to Canada.
On November 9, 2017 4:41:22 AM Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi erik,

Is this iClever keyboard able to connect to more than one IOS device?

RE: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi Simon, I think the iclever keyboard that I recommended has a model 
ending in 06. The model ending in 06 folds in half, while the model ending 
in 03 folds in thirds,  similar to the EC Technology keyboard you mentioned.


I actually owned the EC Technology keyboard, and I can highly recommend it. 
It does not connect to more than one device at a time, but in other ways it 
is equivalent to the iclever 03 or 06. Another derivative of the EC 
Technology keyboard is the esynic folding Bluetooth keyboard, which you can 
also find reviewed on inclusive Android. I am currently using the esynic.  
While it is an excellent keyboard overall, the Accent key is broken and 
dumps random accent characters into the text as I type. So, I'm not really 
as happy with it as I was with the EC Technology. My sister and I bought 
these keyboards at the same time, and she is using her as without any 
issues. I guess I'm just a lucky guy. The EC Technology keyboard lasted for 
approximately 3 years. I consider that excellent value for money.


If you don't need the connectivity options from the iclever, then I think 
you'll be very happy with any of these keyboards. Go ahead and buy 
whichever one is on sale, and will ship to your location.


Best,

Erik


On November 10, 2017 4:01:18 PM Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi Donna,

Which one did you go for in the end?

I’m looking at 2 currently one is the device suggested by erik, the iClever 
Bk03
But I’m also looking at the EC Tech folding bt keyboard which is slightly 
more expensive but seems to have a higher rating



But the EC Tech device can’t be shipped to NZ,
But will be interested to hear what you think of the KB you get.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin

Sent: Saturday, 11 November 2017 12:42 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

Well, I'm getting it for my birthday.  I'll let everyone know what I think.
Cheers,
donna
On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Erik Burggraaf 
<e...@erik-burggraaf.com<mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com>> wrote:


I don't have this keyboard myself, only because I can't buy from 
amazon.com<http://amazon.com/> anymore. I'm not sure why most of us need to 
iOS devices.  One is enough for me. Regardless, I have been interested in 
how this keyboard determines its pairings. As far as I'm concerned, 
Bluetooth is Bluetooth is Bluetooth. If you were going to go to the trouble 
to make a 3 in 1 Bluetooth connection for a keyboard, you wouldn't 
restricted by device would you? I've also wondered what would happen if you 
tried to pair the keyboard up with a Mac. The spec is very specific that 
it's Windows, IOS, and Android. There's no reason why it shouldn't connect 
up to a Mac just fine, but what would actually happen if you tried it?
I actually have one of each, iOS, Android, and Windows devices. So, this is 
actually the perfect keyboard for me. If anyone is planning to buy, I would 
be interested in PayPal and someone the money, getting them to order me 
one, and ship it to Canada.
On November 9, 2017 4:41:22 AM Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi erik,

Is this iClever keyboard able to connect to more than one IOS device?
I’I’d rather connect to a couple of IOS devices rather than windows 
android and ios at one time.


But it reads well in the reviews

Sent from my iPad

On 8/11/2017, at 8:30 AM, Erik Burggraaf 
<e...@erik-burggraaf.com<mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

This icleverr one is very popular if you have access to 
amazon.com<http://amazon.com/>.

http://amzn.to/2tcMzn8

It folds to a size just a little bigger than a passport, unfolds to a full 
sized keyboard, comes with a cary case, and pairs to one ios, one android, 
and one windows device all at once, allowing you to switch back and fourth.


Enjoyu,

Erik


On November 7, 2017 1:58:01 PM Donna Goodin 
<doniado...@me.com<mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:


Hi all,

I have finally decided to get a small Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my 
iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I 
loved it. I’d be looking for something like that something small and 
portable. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

[Erik Burggraaf]

I don't have this keyboard myself, only because I can't buy from amazon.com 
anymore. I'm not sure why most of us need to iOS devices.  One is enough 
for me. Regardless, I have been interested in how this keyboard determines 
its pairings. As far as I'm concerned, Bluetooth is Bluetooth is Bluetooth. 
If you were going to go to the trouble to make a 3 in 1 Bluetooth 
connection for a keyboard, you wouldn't restricted by device would you? 
I've also wondered what would happen if you tried to pair the keyboard up 
with a Mac. The spec is very specific that it's Windows, IOS, and Android. 
There's no reason why it shouldn't connect up to a Mac just fine, but what 
would actually happen if you tried it?



I actually have one of each, iOS, Android, and Windows devices. So, this is 
actually the perfect keyboard for me. If anyone is planning to buy, I would 
be interested in PayPal and someone the money, getting them to order me 
one, and ship it to Canada.





On November 9, 2017 4:41:22 AM Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi erik,

Is this iClever keyboard able to connect to more than one IOS device?
I’I’d rather connect to a couple of IOS devices rather than windows 
android and ios at one time.


But it reads well in the reviews

Sent from my iPad

On 8/11/2017, at 8:30 AM, Erik Burggraaf 
<e...@erik-burggraaf.com<mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com>> wrote:


Hi Donna,

This icleverr one is very popular if you have access to 
amazon.com<http://amazon.com>.

http://amzn.to/2tcMzn8

It folds to a size just a little bigger than a passport, unfolds to a full 
sized keyboard, comes with a cary case, and pairs to one ios, one android, 
and one windows device all at once, allowing you to switch back and fourth.


Enjoyu,

Erik


On November 7, 2017 1:58:01 PM Donna Goodin 
<doniado...@me.com<mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:


Hi all,

I have finally decided to get a small Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my 
iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I 
loved it. I’d be looking for something like that something small and 
portable. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

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I have never seen a keyboard without the f marked, except for a few build 
into old phones that came with thumb keyboards.  If the markings are too 
faint for you, you can always get some sticky dots and glue them on. That's 
what I did for my Ericsson phone, which was the last handset I own that had 
one of those built-in keyboards.


Inclusive Android has a few of these folding keyboards. They are all made 
out of metal. Although they were reviewed for use with Android devices, all 
of them work with iPhone as well. The iclever is a favorite of course, 
because of its ability to connect multiple devices, but I don't think it's 
currently available inside the US, and the other one works just as well.
But I don't think it's currently available inside the US, and the other one 
works just as well.




On November 7, 2017 5:50:10 PM Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:

If I wanted a small portible keyboard I would want the F and J marked.  I 
stopped looking for keyboards long ago because I couldn't find a mark on 
the F and J.


I am a touch typist and when I started typing at school we were taught that 
the F and J was marked which made it easier for VI people.  I was taught 
over 30 years ago so that shows you what age I might be!  All though I am 
not 60 so you can guess and come to your conclusions.


I at present use my small Focus 14 as a keyboard.

So if anyone knows of a good portible keyboard (not apple as it's too big) 
a small one which has the F and J marked and is made of metal (none of 
those cheap plastic ones thanks) I might be interested!


Thank you and please of course.

Kawal.

On 7 Nov 2017, at 19:30, Erik Burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:

Hi Donna,

This icleverr one is very popular if you have access to amazon.com.
http://amzn.to/2tcMzn8

It folds to a size just a little bigger than a passport, unfolds to a full 
sized keyboard, comes with a cary case, and pairs to one ios, one android, 
and one windows device all at once, allowing you to switch back and fourth.


Enjoyu,

Erik


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Hi all,

I have finally decided to get a small Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my 
iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I 
loved it. I’d be looking for something like that something small and 
portable. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks,
Donna

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Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

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Hi Donna,

This icleverr one is very popular if you have access to amazon.com.
http://amzn.to/2tcMzn8

It folds to a size just a little bigger than a passport, unfolds to a full 
sized keyboard, comes with a cary case, and pairs to one ios, one android, 
and one windows device all at once, allowing you to switch back and fourth.


Enjoyu,

Erik


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iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I 
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Thanks,
Donna

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Re: Counting my Money

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I would if I could. Unfortunately, I've never used them myself, and don't 
have enough experience to make a good recommendation. Sorry I couldn't be 
more help, Eric



On November 6, 2017 5:04:23 PM Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

can not u Recommend one?


On 11/6/17, Erik Burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:

Check the app store for budgeting or budget apps. The app would allow you
to enter your incomes, add your bank accounts, track receipts and calculate

your spending. It would also show you where you can save money, what your
total regular monthly bills are, and lots of other information about your
finances. Hope this helps,


On November 6, 2017 2:58:50 AM Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Hi Dear:
Thanks so much
but this is not my question.
am askng for an app to calculate my Income and all my money through the
month.

Do you know any app that can do this?

Thanks so much for your interest



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Hello Ramy,

Currently, I use an app called Money Reader on my Mac to read money.

I don't remember the name of the company but just type in Money Reader,
in
the App Store Search field and it should come up.  I use it almost
everyday.


If memory serves, it's not free but very reasonable.

Mark

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Hello all:

I'm inneed for an APp on mac that can count my incoming and outgoing
money.
I tried on Applevis but may be am not using the correct search words.
so is there a good app that can do this? and it's accessibility is ok?
also it will be better if it can sync the data to Iphone to be able to
write
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THanks in advance.


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Re: Counting my Money

[Erik Burggraaf]

Check the app store for budgeting or budget apps. The app would allow you 
to enter your incomes, add your bank accounts, track receipts and calculate 
your spending. It would also show you where you can save money, what your 
total regular monthly bills are, and lots of other information about your 
finances. Hope this helps,



On November 6, 2017 2:58:50 AM Ramy Moustafa  wrote:


Hi Dear:
Thanks so much
but this is not my question.
am askng for an app to calculate my Income and all my money through the month.

Do you know any app that can do this?

Thanks so much for your interest



On 11/6/17, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Ramy,

Currently, I use an app called Money Reader on my Mac to read money.

I don't remember the name of the company but just type in Money Reader, in
the App Store Search field and it should come up.  I use it almost everyday.


If memory serves, it's not free but very reasonable.

Mark

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Subject: Counting my Money

Hello all:

I'm inneed for an APp on mac that can count my incoming and outgoing money.
I tried on Applevis but may be am not using the correct search words.
so is there a good app that can do this? and it's accessibility is ok?
also it will be better if it can sync the data to Iphone to be able to write
if I did anything without my laptop with me.

THanks in advance.


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Re: Attention, anyone using Text editor for programming code

[Erik Burggraaf]

You press control option shift M (vo shift M)  on the file in finder.

Choose open with.
Choose text edit.

While editing, keep both text edit and safari open.

If text edit doesn't appear where I said it would, do the following.

Press control option shift M (vo shift M)  on the file in finder.

Choose open with.
Choose choose program.
A dialog opens.
Choose text edit.
Tab through the dialog and make sure the box that says "always use this 
program to open this type of file", is unchecked.  This may or may not be a 
thing.  I get my os' mixed up all the time.

Hit OK.
Text edit will open with your html source.
Next time you need to open html source, text edit will be an option as per 
the first set of instructions.


Hope this helps,

Erik




On October 5, 2017 1:53:14 PM Sharon Hooley <shoole...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I sent a message earlier asking how to open the context menu.  I got the 
menu, but the option I wanted wasn’t there.  I’m learning to use html.  As 
you programmers probably know, once you save it and open it in Safari, it 
is no longer the code you see, but the results.  I’m trying to revert back 
to the txt it came from.  I saw the option to browse the types of 
documents, but when I accessed the context menu, I didn’t see a list to 
choose from.  So, is there another menu to open, or do I open it at the 
wrong place?


Thanks,

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Re: Sharing a folder between my windows 7 and my mac

[Erik Burggraaf]

Your Mac requires that the windows account you are signing in to have a 
proper username and password. You cannot use guest. You will need to make 
sure you have a password setup on your Windows 7 user account, and that 
your Windows 7 user account has full permission to access that shared 
Drive. The sharing permissions have to be set up manually in the sharing 
options of that folder.


Once you have that all set up, you may want to go and do some things behind 
the scenes to make your Windows 7 machine start out with and requiring a 
password.


Hope this helps, Eric


On October 4, 2017 3:09:39 PM Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi all:

i need to share a folder between my windows and my mac.
in windows 7, i made all steps, and i’m sure that it’s visible on the 
network, because i signed from my wife’s windows laptop, but on mac, i can 
not see the folder at all.
I hit Control+k, i found my PC name, i hit connect, i didn’t set a 
password, so i wrote guest. but i failed to connect, so

what’s wrong here?

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RE: O/T RE: NFB, Uber App and a Guide Dog

[Erik Burggraaf]

It's ultra political no doubt about that.  In my experience, the goods get 
dispursed based on who heads a chapter, just as an example, not necessarily 
on size.  People are people, and it's unfortunate, but you can do one of 
two things.  You can barry your head in the sand and pretend they don't 
exist until you need to trot out the bad.  Or you can persevere, take the 
good they offer with the bad, and try to leverage the good to make a 
difference.


I'm comfortable with the iron fisted approach myself.  The nfb does a lot 
more than bang the drum, but they do bang the drum a lot, and as long as 
they have their facts right, I'm very happy to let them do that.  The 
velvet glove approach screwed me pretty bad, to the tune of 6.5 grand, 
three years, and a successful consulting practice.  Now that I have two 
human rights cases to work on, I'm not really in a velvet glove kind of 
mood.  That doesn't mean I won't compromize, just not to the extent of 
giving up my due process for no value in return or allowing myself to go 
without compensation for lost years, or allowing companies to continue 
using inaccessibly designed infrastructure.


Anyhow, I don't want people saying the nfb doesn't support guide dogs, 
because that isn't true.  I'm sorry you had a bad experience that 
completely put you off the process, but I don't want to miss a chance to 
help some one with advocacy or living skills or travel or anything else 
they need because they heard bad things about say, the cfb, and won't 
approach me.I'm here to help people and despite the fact that it is far 
from perfect, federationism is the best way to advocate for people who are 
blind and against the barriers we face in society.


Best,

Erik


On September 28, 2017 12:06:35 PM "David & his pack of dogs" 
<myguidedo...@gmail.com> wrote:


I have not been on the NAGDU, or as I like to call it, "Not Another Guide 
Dog User" list for years so, admittedly have no current knowledge about if 
NFB has changed, or not.  MY dealings with them were, they will grab the 
lime light as often as they can, get their nose in things that have nothing 
to do with blindness so they can stay in the lime light and basically treat 
people within their organization like dirt if it is felt they have no 
voice. I E, if a chapter has let's say 15 members and another one has 100, 
the one with 15 members is viewed as inconsequential and of little value, 
not worth even listening too. Here is the way the NFB was described to me a 
long time ago after I left it.  They will immediately use an iron fist to 
get their point across, whereas other agencies will use a velvet glove. If 
they can be in the lime light, they could care less about blind people.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Erik Burggraaf

Sent: September 28, 2017 7:07 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: O/T RE: NFB, Uber App and a Guide Dog

Hello all,

I was an NFB member for three years, and I am currently a CFB member.  The 
organizations do a lot of things, most of which I personally approve, a few 
of which I don't.  In my limitted experience, the NFB and CFB are both 100% 
supportive of guidedogs.  The NFB has a guide dog division, the national 
association of guide dog users.  They are doing legal advocacy with 
companies like uber on the guide dog issue and access to information to 
make the Uber experience better for the blind.


I'm sorry that some users have had negative experiences with the NFB and 
it's treatment of guide dogs.  The NFB is slow to adapt.  Most of it's bad 
decisions derive from failing to understand and respond to new challenges.

It's also a huge organization at least as far as the NFB.   The CFB not so
much.  It's made up of people and people are infinitely diverse.  It has 
more than the usual alotment of caring, generous, thoughtful, hardworking 
people, but it also has assholes, climbers, backstabbers and those sorts 
have a way of positioning themselves so that it can seem like they are 
powerful voices of the organization.  Whatever position the organization 
may have taken on guide dogs in the past, it is now 100% positively and 
pro-actively in support of them now, and has been for the short term of my 
association with them.  Considering the power carried by the NFB in 
deciding for blind Americans what their direction will be, I think it's a 
good idea to let bygones be bygones, and be informed on current issues in 
which the NFB is involved.  That way, you will have a chance to impact the 
future.


As far as Canadian law, federal statute protects the right of guide dog 
users to be served in any public place, as if the guide dog were not 
present.  This includes stores, restaurants, transportation services, 
public accommodations, hospitals, government service centres, and well... I 
can't actually think of an exclusion now that I come t

Re: Problems with installation

[Erik Burggraaf]

Solution one:
press the mouse or trackpad button once.  I used to run into this during 
instalations and fix it this way.


Solution two::
hold down  control option.  Add fn if needed.  Press f1 twice quickly.  
Choose the window.  You may have to go into system dialogs to find it.


Hope this helps,

Erik


On September 28, 2017 11:27:12 AM Caitlyn F <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi
Today I started to install the latest operating system on my Mac.

I started at 9 o'clock this morning and now I'm getting a screen that says 
installation has no windows.


What should I do now?

Thanks Caitlyn

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O/T RE: NFB, Uber App and a Guide Dog

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hello all,

I was an NFB member for three years, and I am currently a CFB member.  The 
organizations do a lot of things, most of which I personally approve, a few 
of which I don't.  In my limitted experience, the NFB and CFB are both 100% 
supportive of guidedogs.  The NFB has a guide dog division, the national 
association of guide dog users.  They are doing legal advocacy with 
companies like uber on the guide dog issue and access to information to 
make the Uber experience better for the blind.


I'm sorry that some users have had negative experiences with the NFB and 
it's treatment of guide dogs.  The NFB is slow to adapt.  Most of it's bad 
decisions derive from failing to understand and respond to new challenges.  
It's also a huge organization at least as far as the NFB.   The CFB not so 
much.  It's made up of people and people are infinitely diverse.  It has 
more than the usual alotment of caring, generous, thoughtful, hardworking 
people, but it also has assholes, climbers, backstabbers and those sorts 
have a way of positioning themselves so that it can seem like they are 
powerful voices of the organization.  Whatever position the organization 
may have taken on guide dogs in the past, it is now 100% positively and 
pro-actively in support of them now, and has been for the short term of my 
association with them.  Considering the power carried by the NFB in 
deciding for blind Americans what their direction will be, I think it's a 
good idea to let bygones be bygones, and be informed on current issues in 
which the NFB is involved.  That way, you will have a chance to impact the 
future.


As far as Canadian law, federal statute protects the right of guide dog 
users to be served in any public place, as if the guide dog were not 
present.  This includes stores, restaurants, transportation services, 
public accommodations, hospitals, government service centres, and well... I 
can't actually think of an exclusion now that I come to think of it.  If 
the public can go there and get service, so can a guide dog user.  The law 
does not require guide dog users to identify themselves as having or using 
a guide dog.  That would not come under the heading of being served as if 
the dog were not there, would it?  I don't mind disclosing that I have a 
guide dog as long as:

The disclosure is entirely voluntary.
My service is in no way limitted by my disclosure.
As in the case of uber, if there is a rideshare available three minutes 
from my location, but considering my voluntary disclosure of a guide dog, 
my nearest available ride is now 15 minutes away because three or five 
providers near me have opted out of taking dogs.  Not acceptable.


The laws on service animals being different in numerous geographic regions 
where-in Uber operates, but most favouring guide dog users over transport 
providers, the safe thing for Uber to do is erre on the side of caution.  
Especially since they're already being sued.


Best,

Erik



On September 27, 2017 8:06:58 PM Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
wrote:


Oh neither is mine, I remember when the NFB wanted the state of new York to
bar   the use of service animals in public buildings...and I do not use a
dog myself.
Still, that is all the more reason for uber to incorporate this process
into the app
itself.  Or find an objective way to gather this information.
 Kare



On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:


I will admit, my opinion of the NFB is not good.  Don't worry, I will not
air dirty laundry.  I just didn't like the way they treated a guide dog user
I knew. Who, had a chapter of the NFB, yet was treated like dirt.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: September 27, 2017 2:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Uber App and a Guide Dog

I am not writing from a place of cynicism.  instead I feel the source is
more likely  to be preaching to the choir.
why should ubber pay anyone to survey something that  cannot be generalized
in the first place?
I cannot speak to the app itself, but given how many travel variation's are
possible  here, that feels more like the nfb getting names and uber buying
fake pr.
Kare



On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:


Sorry, when there is money coming from the agency being surveyed, I call

into question the validity of the survey and whether the answers not wanted
go into file 13. I guess as I get older, I become more sinical especially
when it comes to blind agencies.




From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: September 27, 2017 10:27 AM
To: macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog



Also note, that the NFB set up a survey that you can fill out to show the

results of your trip with UBEr or List.  It asks where you 

Re: amazon was `Re: vpn services

[Erik Burggraaf]

I whole heartedly agree, but if it did work it would get you through.

Unfortunately, I just went to amazon and clicked the link for the screen 
reader friendly site and it took me right back to the original site.  So, 
either it's not available on amazon.ca, or it's not as big a deal as they 
make it out to be.


Best,

Erik


On August 29, 2017 8:18:17 AM Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name> wrote:

No, I haven’t—didn’t know they had such a beast.  There should be no need 
for such a site these days.

Jeff


On Aug 29, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Erik Burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:

Have you tried the so called screen reader version of the site?  I object 
to the segregation, but that might help you until you can find a work 
around for this pop up issue`.


Best,

Erik```

On August 29, 2017 8:01:59 AM Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name> wrote:

I have clicked that “Close” button several times, but it always comes back. 
 For now, my work around is to not use Amazon. ;)


Jeff

On Aug 29, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Erik Burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com 
<mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com>> wrote:


`Hi` Jeff,

Have you tried using vo command j for form controls or getting form 
controls out of the router and looking for a close button on that dialog?  
I have not seen that popup about review calculations in a long time and I'm 
not sure exactly how I got rid of it. I still get the one promoting the app 
for mobile though and there's a close button for that so it just goes away.

best,

Erikˋ
On August 29, 2017 7:39:57 AM Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name 
<mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:



How do you guys navigate Amazon?

Recently, and on this exact page, when I visit Amazon pages I am stuck with 
a web dialogue informing me how they calculate their user reviews.  I can’t 
actually read anything on the page as this dialogue appears over and over 
and over again.


Sorry for hijacking this post, but it happened on that link too.

Tia,
Jeff

On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:52 AM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com 
<mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>> wrote:


Scott, does all of the nighthawk routers have this feature?  Got my eye on 
one that just came out this past June.  Here is the link.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072LZZZXB/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8=1=ATVPDKIKX0DER 
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072LZZZXB/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8=1=ATVPDKIKX0DER>

Let me know what you think.


On Aug 26, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Few ways you could do this.

My router has Open VPN built in, it’s a Netgear Night Hawk 8500 and it has 
all the certs and everything pre built.  Very easy to set up.  I can then 
either just connect to my home network and send everything else in the 
clear or tunnel everything through the home connection encrypted.


You could also build a server with two NICs and put one on the inside 
network, one on the outside, enable IP forwarding and install Open VPN.  
Advantage here is you can use existing hardware in your collection but more 
setup work on the down side.


	You could also buy some hardware on eBay used.  Something like an old 
Cisco ASA or Juniper SRX that you would wire up similarly and or use as a 
router replacement.  Since you’re a technical guy and heavy on the systems 
side you might like this option so you start learning and working with 
enterprise level gear on the cheap.


Just a ew ideas.

On Aug 25, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:


Hi Scott and anyone else with thoughts on this.

I’m looking for a VPN service either existing that I can use to connect 
from my mac book air or iPad / iPhone to my home systems which consist of a 
couple of mac minis and windows servers 2012R2 and others.


I just want something to connect from the remote device to the home end and 
then rdp into what I need at the time to access.

I’m not sure free is the best option but thoughts greatfully appreciated.



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Re: amazon was `Re: vpn services

[Erik Burggraaf]

Have you tried the so called screen reader version of the site?  I object 
to the segregation, but that might help you until you can find a work 
around for this pop up issue`.


Best,

Erik```


On August 29, 2017 8:01:59 AM Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name> wrote:

I have clicked that “Close” button several times, but it always comes back. 
For now, my work around is to not use Amazon. ;)


Jeff


On Aug 29, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Erik Burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:

`Hi` Jeff,

Have you tried using vo command j for form controls or getting form 
controls out of the router and looking for a close button on that dialog?  
I have not seen that popup about review calculations in a long time and I'm 
not sure exactly how I got rid of it. I still get the one promoting the app 
for mobile though and there's a close button for that so it just goes away.

best,

Erikˋ
On August 29, 2017 7:39:57 AM Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name> wrote:


How do you guys navigate Amazon?

Recently, and on this exact page, when I visit Amazon pages I am stuck with 
a web dialogue informing me how they calculate their user reviews.  I can’t 
actually read anything on the page as this dialogue appears over and over 
and over again.


Sorry for hijacking this post, but it happened on that link too.

Tia,
Jeff

On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:52 AM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com 
<mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>> wrote:


Scott, does all of the nighthawk routers have this feature?  Got my eye on 
one that just came out this past June.  Here is the link.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072LZZZXB/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8=1=ATVPDKIKX0DER 
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072LZZZXB/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8=1=ATVPDKIKX0DER>

Let me know what you think.


On Aug 26, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Few ways you could do this.

My router has Open VPN built in, it’s a Netgear Night Hawk 8500 and it has 
all the certs and everything pre built.  Very easy to set up.  I can then 
either just connect to my home network and send everything else in the 
clear or tunnel everything through the home connection encrypted.


You could also build a server with two NICs and put one on the inside 
network, one on the outside, enable IP forwarding and install Open VPN.  
Advantage here is you can use existing hardware in your collection but more 
setup work on the down side.


	You could also buy some hardware on eBay used.  Something like an old 
Cisco ASA or Juniper SRX that you would wire up similarly and or use as a 
router replacement.  Since you’re a technical guy and heavy on the systems 
side you might like this option so you start learning and working with 
enterprise level gear on the cheap.


Just a ew ideas.

On Aug 25, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:


Hi Scott and anyone else with thoughts on this.

I’m looking for a VPN service either existing that I can use to connect 
from my mac book air or iPad / iPhone to my home systems which consist of a 
couple of mac minis and windows servers 2012R2 and others.


I just want something to connect from the remote device to the home end and 
then rdp into what I need at the time to access.

I’m not sure free is the best option but thoughts greatfully appreciated.



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amazon was `Re: vpn services

[Erik Burggraaf]

`Hi` Jeff,

Have you tried using vo command j for form controls or getting form 
controls out of the router and looking for a close button on that dialog?  
I have not seen that popup about review calculations in a long time and I'm 
not sure exactly how I got rid of it. I still get the one promoting the app 
for mobile though and there's a close button for that so it just goes away.

best,

Erikˋ



On August 29, 2017 7:39:57 AM Jeff Berwick  wrote:

How do you guys navigate Amazon?

Recently, and on this exact page, when I visit Amazon pages I am stuck with 
a web dialogue informing me how they calculate their user reviews.  I can’t 
actually read anything on the page as this dialogue appears over and over 
and over again.


Sorry for hijacking this post, but it happened on that link too.

Tia,
Jeff


On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:52 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:

Scott, does all of the nighthawk routers have this feature?  Got my eye on 
one that just came out this past June.  Here is the link.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072LZZZXB/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8=1=ATVPDKIKX0DER 


Let me know what you think.


On Aug 26, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Scott Granados > wrote:


Few ways you could do this.

My router has Open VPN built in, it’s a Netgear Night Hawk 8500 and it has 
all the certs and everything pre built.  Very easy to set up.  I can then 
either just connect to my home network and send everything else in the 
clear or tunnel everything through the home connection encrypted.


You could also build a server with two NICs and put one on the inside 
network, one on the outside, enable IP forwarding and install Open VPN.  
Advantage here is you can use existing hardware in your collection but more 
setup work on the down side.


	You could also buy some hardware on eBay used.  Something like an old 
Cisco ASA or Juniper SRX that you would wire up similarly and or use as a 
router replacement.  Since you’re a technical guy and heavy on the systems 
side you might like this option so you start learning and working with 
enterprise level gear on the cheap.


Just a ew ideas.

On Aug 25, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Simon Fogarty > wrote:


Hi Scott and anyone else with thoughts on this.

I’m looking for a VPN service either existing that I can use to connect 
from my mac book air or iPad / iPhone to my home systems which consist of a 
couple of mac minis and windows servers 2012R2 and others.


I just want something to connect from the remote device to the home end and 
then rdp into what I need at the time to access.

I’m not sure free is the best option but thoughts greatfully appreciated.



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Re: Zendesk accessibility with Voiceover

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi Jonathan,

I have thought on your situation.  I think you need to first document the 
issue for yourself, including technical steps you took to solve the issue 
and time spent both on task, and working on solutions so that your company 
can see the scope of the problem.  Then you want to use your own chain of 
command.  IE, first show your document to your manager, and ask them to 
take it to the next level, keeping you in the loop as the process takes shape.

a
It may seem that you have an H r issue, but actually, you may have an IT or 
procurement issue.  Your manager is the person to get your document into 
the right hands internally.  If your manager failed to support you in your 
attempt to get the issue resolved, that would for sure be an HR issue.


In your document, you would probably be asking for one of two resolutions.
First, have IT interface with the developer of the time sheet software to 
get the bug fixed at the software level.
Second, if that fails, procure and deploy a new time tracking software 
after testing to make sure that new software meets all the company's needs 
including diversity.


If your company is a good customer, they shouldn't need to threaten to get 
things done.  Apparently zendesk was created a situation where they were 
ignoring accessibility issues and refusing to co-operate.


If you are very lucky, the software you use is developed directly by your 
company.  In that case, they can do everything internally and you can 
participate in the solution.  Clearly you have the expertese required to do 
that.


Above all, be positive and proactive.  Include your chain of command.  Be 
thurough, and give the company every possible opportunity to help you if 
they will.  If not, be sure to document that too and fall on them from a 
great height if you have to, but this issue doesn't sound like something 
you should have to put your job in jepperdy for.  Legal action or threat of 
action must be the ultimate last resourt here.


Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help, though it sounds 
like you have a good grasp of the situation.


Best,

Erik


On August 23, 2017 10:30:53 PM Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow, interesting my last two positions have required me to use a specific 
time keeping tool. The only way I can accurately determine what field I am 
placing my current hours in is to bring up the "id" of the HTML field 
(something like d0_12 would be the forth accounting code line  thirteen day 
on a time sheet. I started writing JAWS scripts to determine where I was 
but after one set of corruption I gave up. My company is supportive of 
diversity, but I have never talked to HR about how unusable the time system 
is. Even my sighted colleagues say it is difficult,. When I have 5 or 6 
billing codes in a time period then it takes me 15 minutes to enter my time 
and verify that it is placed correctly.
Any templates of what to say especially since I have been working with this 
company for over a year and not complained yet.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Erik Burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:

Hi,

I've neverr had an issue managing zendesk tickets as an end user.  Sorry to 
hear it causes issues on the back end for blind tech support employees.


I think the best way to handle this is to have the employer write a letter. 
The letter should come from the company's legal department and include 
human resource contacts.  The letter should introduce the blind employee in 
general terms and explain the hiring laws in the jurisdiction where the 
company operates.  Then it should explain that the the employee would take 
legal action against the company if the company on hiring them, did not 
ficilitate their ability to perform the essential functions of the job.  
Then it should explain that if the company were found liable for loss and 
dammages caused by technical accessibility issues, the company would be 
forced to take legal action against zendesk to recover their losses.  As a 
remedy, the letter should suggest that all three parties work together to 
address the accessibility of zendesk and thereby inprove accessibility in 
many workplaces across the technical support industry.  It definitely means 
more when accessibility is proposed by corporate account holders than it 
does when one end user tries to make noise on their own.


Best,

Erik



On August 23, 2017 9:57:49 AM Mika Pyyhkala <pyyhk...@gmail.com> wrote:

I would also encourage you and others on this list to write to them
either through the official customer support channels or through
executives at the company.

I wrote to them a while back, and they basically just said that
accessibility is not a priority.

Also if they have any federal government installations that could be a
Section 508 issue.

I too found it possibly useable, although all functions may not work
and it may be cumbersom

Re: Zendesk accessibility with Voiceover

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi,

I've neverr had an issue managing zendesk tickets as an end user.  Sorry to 
hear it causes issues on the back end for blind tech support employees.


I think the best way to handle this is to have the employer write a letter. 
The letter should come from the company's legal department and include 
human resource contacts.  The letter should introduce the blind employee in 
general terms and explain the hiring laws in the jurisdiction where the 
company operates.  Then it should explain that the the employee would take 
legal action against the company if the company on hiring them, did not 
ficilitate their ability to perform the essential functions of the job.  
Then it should explain that if the company were found liable for loss and 
dammages caused by technical accessibility issues, the company would be 
forced to take legal action against zendesk to recover their losses.  As a 
remedy, the letter should suggest that all three parties work together to 
address the accessibility of zendesk and thereby inprove accessibility in 
many workplaces across the technical support industry.  It definitely means 
more when accessibility is proposed by corporate account holders than it 
does when one end user tries to make noise on their own.


Best,

Erik



On August 23, 2017 9:57:49 AM Mika Pyyhkala <pyyhk...@gmail.com> wrote:

I would also encourage you and others on this list to write to them
either through the official customer support channels or through
executives at the company.

I wrote to them a while back, and they basically just said that
accessibility is not a priority.

Also if they have any federal government installations that could be a
Section 508 issue.

I too found it possibly useable, although all functions may not work
and it may be cumbersome to use.

Also I'm not sure if anyone knows of a similar request management
system that is fully accessible that may be in use at large
enterprises.

Best,
Mika


On 8/23/17, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:

I use it every day, it's useable but yes, the accessibility falls short
because many of the buttons are not labeled and some of the pop up
menus are not standard. I had emailed them about this when we first
started using Zendesk and the response was basically, the site was not
really designed with accessibility in mind, that's really helpful! It
points out a problem that is all too common though, many sites are not
designed from the ground up with accessibility in mind even though they
should be.
Original message:

Hello everyone,



I’ve started a new job, and my employer uses Zendesk. I was just
wondering if anyone on list has used it recently, say within the last 6
months? I understand accessibility left much to be desire from what
I’ve red online. I was just hoping to get input from anyone who has
used it recently.



Thanks.



Ricardo.



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Re: Option up arrow command to get to top of list has stopped working

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In my experience, it is deprecated. Others are saying it's not.  I can't 
begin to guess why some people have it and others don't. I guess you just 
have to do what works.



On August 14, 2017 12:30:19 PM "Brandon A. Olivares" 
<thepianist2...@gmail.com> wrote:


Is it really deprecated? Option+up arrow works fine for me still.

On Aug 14, 2017, at 12:19 PM, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com> wrote:

Hi,

Sorry for the previous message.  My brain's gone.  Actually I have just 
tried your command and it works.  What joy, thank you very much. and again 
apologies for the previous confused response.


Andrew

On 14 Aug 2017, at 15:21, Erik Burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:

Hi,  This command was deprecated long ago.  I think the new one is command 
option up or command option down arrow.  If that doesn't work, let me know 
and I will as k one of my former students.  I solved this thing for him but 
I don't remember what the solution is if it is not the command option thing.


Good luck,

Erik


On August 14, 2017 10:17:22 AM Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com> wrote:

Hi Listers,

The command option plus up arrow used to work very well in lists  Without 
having to interact with the list, I was able to jump very quickly to the 
top of any list. The option down arrow command would take me quickly to the 
bottom of the list again without having to interact with the list  All of a 
sudden the command doesn''t work any more.  Has anyone else noticed this?  
It was such a brilliant way of navigating rapidly through long lists.  I 
can't quite remember now whether the command stopped working after the most 
recent update of the operating system, I've only just noticed.


Andrew

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Re: Option up arrow command to get to top of list has stopped working

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Hi,  This command was deprecated long ago.  I think the new one is command 
option up or command option down arrow.  If that doesn't work, let me know 
and I will as k one of my former students.  I solved this thing for him but 
I don't remember what the solution is if it is not the command option thing.


Good luck,

Erik


On August 14, 2017 10:17:22 AM Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com> wrote:

Hi Listers,

The command option plus up arrow used to work very well in lists  Without 
having to interact with the list, I was able to jump very quickly to the 
top of any list. The option down arrow command would take me quickly to the 
bottom of the list again without having to interact with the list  All of a 
sudden the command doesn''t work any more.  Has anyone else noticed this?  
It was such a brilliant way of navigating rapidly through long lists.  I 
can't quite remember now whether the command stopped working after the most 
recent update of the operating system, I've only just noticed.


Andrew

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboards

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi Anders and all,

Inclusive android has lots of accessible keyboard reviews.

Heere is the latest IClever:
https://www.inclusiveandroid.com/content/iclever-bluetooth-keyboard

Here is another folding full sized keyboard with less features:
https://www.inclusiveandroid.com/content/esynic-trifold-aluminum-bluetooth-keyboard

Here is a poccket sized 40 key board:
https://www.inclusiveandroid.com/content/hde-mini-wireless-bluetooth-keyboard

I've used the esynic trifold and the hte pocket size on IOS and they work 
well.  The Iclev er I haven't tried myself, but it will work as well.


If you like them, pleasee cllick through our links so we can generate money 
to develop the site.


Thanks,

Erik


On August 7, 2017 8:31:08 AM Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
Talking of bluetooth keyboards.
I would like to find a very very small keyboard that can fit in a pocket.
I have one from Deltaco but since version 9 of Ios it does not work properly.
Its extreemly small so it fits in my hand.
But the buttons are big enough for my fingers.
It can be a bit trycky to use but infact that it is so small an fits into 
my jeans pocket makes me want to find a similar device.

/A


7 aug. 2017 kl. 03:42 skrev Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com>:

It actually costs about 114 from amazon at least, and it says on there it 
only pairs to 4 devices.  I hate keypads though.  My Logitech pairs to 3 
devices, and is only 80 bucks, so I will stick to it.  JMO

On Aug 6, 2017, at 8:00 PM, Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Look at the Mattias bluetooth keyboard sold by A T Guys. It’s about $100, 
but can pair to up to five devices at once.

HTH,
Aleeha On Aug 6, 2017, at 5:12 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:


What is a good Bluetooth keyboard with numeric keypad for iDevices? 
Logitech perhaps? It does not need to be foldable, tiny, less then full 
size. I was looking at the Apple Magic keyboard with numeric keypad but may 
as well consider another brand like Logitech. Thanks.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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Re: Seeking tips on how to place the mac with a braille display.

[Erik Burggraaf]

Search for laptop stand on Amazon. There are multitudinous laptop stands 
like the one you were looking for. Some of them have cooling products in 
them, While others are just for saving space on your desk by raising your 
computer. Of course, the trick will be finding one that is the right size 
and height to do what you need.




On August 5, 2017 9:36:33 AM Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
Thanks for that tip too.
One thing i wonder is if there’s any kind of stand for the mac so it will 
come up a bit higher.

/A


4 aug. 2017 kl. 15:59 skrev Erik Burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com>:

Well, as donna mentioned, there is lap mode which is great because you 
almost always have a lap and it's usually at just the right hight.  There 
is always the method of repurposing the sliding keyboard tray from your 
computer desk which also works pretty well.


My friend brian likes his placed off to the side of his keyboard on an 
angle.  I nearly break my wrist using his computer, but he's really happy 
with it.


Hope this helps,

Erik


On August 4, 2017 8:58:20 AM Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
I have gotten the Handytech basic braille brailledisplay.
This is just a dum display and nothing more but the cells are really great.
I have one ergonomic problem though.
THe display is somewhat higher than the macbook i am using.
So when i am typing i have to lay my arms on the display and stretch my 
fingers to type.
I want the mac to  be a bit higher so i can have the comfort of both typing 
and reading if you understand.

I hope i am clear on this.
Thanks.
/A

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Re: Seeking tips on how to place the mac with a braille display.

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Well, as donna mentioned, there is lap mode which is great because you 
almost always have a lap and it's usually at just the right hight.  There 
is always the method of repurposing the sliding keyboard tray from your 
computer desk which also works pretty well.


My friend brian likes his placed off to the side of his keyboard on an 
angle.  I nearly break my wrist using his computer, but he's really happy 
with it.


Hope this helps,

Erik


On August 4, 2017 8:58:20 AM Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
I have gotten the Handytech basic braille brailledisplay.
This is just a dum display and nothing more but the cells are really great.
I have one ergonomic problem though.
THe display is somewhat higher than the macbook i am using.
So when i am typing i have to lay my arms on the display and stretch my 
fingers to type.
I want the mac to  be a bit higher so i can have the comfort of both typing 
and reading if you understand.

I hope i am clear on this.
Thanks.
/A

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Re: help with formula in Numbers

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Based on what you wrote here, you have forgotten to put the equal sign at 
the beginning of some.



On July 30, 2017 7:26:21 PM Robert Cole  wrote:

Dear List,
This is about to drive me crazy.
Whats wrong with this formula?
SUM(C2:C15)
Its giving me a blank cell.
and sometimes VoiceOver will not speak by characters when trying to edit a 
formula.

It seems to highLight C2:C15
but want talk as I arrow left or right.
Thanks for your help.


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Re: bluetooth keyboard for iPhone

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi, here are accessibility reviews for two popular keyboards.

https://www.inclusiveandroid.com/content/esynic-trifold-aluminum-bluetooth-keyboard
https://www.inclusiveandroid.com/content/iclever-bluetooth-keyboard

Enjoy,

Erik


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Hi all,

I think this has come up before but I am curious about what bluetooth 
keyboards people are using for an iPhone? My girlfriend and I are both 
looking for one and I'm just trying to find what ones people are liking.


Thanks,

Gabe


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Re: A free NTFS solution on mac and Clean my mac?

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I used tuexera NTFS.  I think I paid about $40 for it, but I installed it 
on several of my Max. The only free solution would be if you have an old 
computer that you can set up as a file server and U Samba to connect to 
your NTFS drives from your max.



On July 30, 2017 10:54:19 AM Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hello all My friends:
I need to find a free solution to open the NTFS drives on mac, i’m now 
using the free trial of Paragon NTFS for mac, it’s really very great, but 
after the trial is expired, i need to find another solution.
I can not buy the app because i need to copies 1 for MacBook and the other 
is for Mac mini, it is not manageable for me, so can you suggest me a free 
app ?

Thanks in advance
also, this thing is for the Clean my mac, i found this app very very 
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Re: Refreshable Braille devices?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Thanks for this!  What a post.  I've seen promos for orbit and the new aph 
graphics tool.  I think I'll take one of the graphic tablets and one of the 
multi line book reading displays thanks.  Sign me up. :-D


Best,

Erik


On July 25, 2017 11:16:23 PM David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok, there are currently four different braille display technologies being 
developed.


The Bristol Braille technology is the tech which is closest to market. It 
is the Orbit 20 cell Bluetooth braille display. It is a little noisy and 
locks the braille dots into place. The tech takes between half a second and 
a second to refresh the line of braille. I briefly played with a prototype 
Orbit last year. On the plus side, the dots are completely firm once the 
braille line is refreshed. The display will work with iOS and Android smart 
phones. On the minus side, the display is a little noisy, and it has a 
significant refresh cycle. This display has a few million dollars invested 
into it from several blindness organisations around the world. The Orbit 
will cost less than $500 USD when sold. Note: there are two multi-line 
displays being developed which utilise the same technology. APH has a 
prototype of a graphical display, and says they hope their 40 by 60 dot 
(not cell) display will be ready next year, and should cost under $1000 
USD. I heard a podcast of their prototype which has a 2 second page refresh 
speed. More interesting for me is the display's ability to allow the person 
to draw on it with one's finger. This has many potential applications. So, 
though I am not interested in the Orbit, I am extremely interested in this 
display. Bristol Braille is also developing a 40 cell by several line text 
braille display which they are stating should be released next year. This 
looks to be strictly a book reader display, and I am not interested.


BliTab demoed a full-page braille display Android tablet at CES in January. 
This display is based on micro-fluidics. I went by their booth several 
times, but never found them whilst at CES. They were predicting a price 
point of around $300 USD for their braille tablet. I requested to be placed 
on their email list, and have not heard anything since CES. Their display 
technology has the same speed and quietness of the current piezzo electric 
displays.


Dot Corp has been demoing their Dot Watch, with 4 (I believe) braille cells 
for over a year now. They are a South Korean company. Thus far, they keep 
moving their launch date further and further back. Apparently, they are 
having complications with braille dot cap durability. I heard that they are 
planning for a 40 by 60 dot (not cell) display after they get their watch 
functioning properly. Like with APH, they are targeting under $1000 USD for 
the braille display.


The MIT group looks interesting. Unfortunately, their braille cell 
technology still needs to be reduced by another 25% according to an 
interview I heard with them recently. Again, if their concept proves 
viable, they are looking at a couple hundred dollars for a single line display.


The Bristol technology is the slowest and the noisiest display tech out 
there, but it is actually ready for sale. All the rest of the technologies 
are in development and/or prototype stages. I have seen many refreshable 
braille technologies make it to prototype stages. Thus far, Bristol is the 
only technology which has made it all the way through development and real 
world testing. And, there have been several attempts over the past 30 
years. I have learned to believe the tech is coming when it actually is 
released onto the market. Prototypes are very different from mass-produced 
products, and real world testing wipes out most concepts. In the end, it 
does not matter how nice and usable something is in the lab (controlled 
conditions). It MUST stand up to the real world to be of any real use.


Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone


On 26/07/2017, at 12:37, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:

In the us it’s going to be about $495 I believe.  The Massachusetts 
Institute of Technology has a team the has developed a braille display that 
should come in around $200 US or 225 pounds.




On Jul 25, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:

The orbit reader is coming and it's going to cost £500 (nort sure what that 
is in dollars) but it's a whole lot cheaper.  When that comes out on the 
market, braille displays, the expensive ones may be finished!


Kawal.

On 24 Jul 2017, at 17:02, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Did not understand that but well, if a user is dependent on braille, that 
user will not feel a solidly-made braille display to be overpriced. 
Understand that concept? But here is the thing. How large a market do 
braille displays have? I dare say if if you can produce fantastic displays 
an

Re: mac HTML editor suggestion?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Regardless, you still have to set text edit to plain text instead of RTF, 
and you still have to turn off Smart symbols. If you don't, then it will 
save your encoding improperly, whether you change any of it or not. Best, Eric



On July 23, 2017 1:56:51 PM Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

To the  best of my knowledge text editing is not the goal here.  None of
the
page   coding will be changed, just my off ice address / number on the
contacts page.
Kare


On Sun, 23 Jul 2017, Erik Burggraaf wrote:


Set text edit to use plain text instead of RTF. Then turn off all of the
special symbols, and you have a text editor for editing HTML. This is how I
did most of my code when I had a Mac.


On July 22, 2017 9:16:34 PM Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

Hi folks,
I have a friend who is a former apple staffer.  she is updating the contact
information on my website.  The site is done in  HTML, and she wants to
know a good html editor for the mac?
Thanks,
Kare



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Re: mac HTML editor suggestion?

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Set text edit to use plain text instead of RTF. Then turn off all of the 
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I have a friend who is a former apple staffer.  she is updating the contact
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know a good html editor for the mac?
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Re: : Looking for visually impaired iPhone users to help with C I B C usability testing (fwd)

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It's prettyy clllear yuhae   tooo gggo   there.  
Whether the compensation is worth the travel cost I guess would be up to you.


Best,

Erik


On July 20, 2017 12:33:29 PM Matthew Dierckens <matt.dierck...@me.com> wrote:

Hi, Do you have to live in Toronto to participate?

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, IOS  and Windows Trainer
JAWS for windows Certified - 2016
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On Jul 20, 2017, at 12:21, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

Hi folks,
One for the Canadians here.  Please share this if you can.
Kare


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Subject: [community] Looking for visually impaired iPhone users to help 
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C I B C is looking for experienced, visually impaired iPhone Voiceover 
users to participate in one-on- one usability testing.

• Payment: $150 in cash
• Duration: 1 hour
• Date: Between August 14 and August 18, 2017 • Location: Dundas and Yonge. 
Easily accessible via subway


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Re: help please OT

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hello, there is also the website inclusive Android:

Http://www.inclusiveandroid.com

Inclusive Android has a forum where you can ask accessibility related 
questions. There are also a lot of good written and audio tutorials to help 
you make use of your Android device. Users are encouraged to contribute 
their content, so when you're a person gets up and running, we can use 
their experience.


Enjoy, Eric


On July 10, 2017 4:51:24 AM Simon Fogarty  wrote:


Hi List,

I'm asking for a Kiwi colleague but thought you international folks might 
have an idea.


A fellow blindy here in NZ has an android device and whishs to know if 
there is an android blind users list out there,


I wondered if anyone on this list might have thoughts on this.

I know it's not apple but any help would be appreciated.


Cheers,


Simon F

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Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us

[Erik Burggraaf]

I have no particular objection to your language here.  I'd like to point 
out though that people are trying to prevent your misunderstanding from 
potentially causing you loss or dammage.  There is no call to be mean.


Best,

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On April 21, 2017 9:21:52 AM alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote:


then how did an online fan fic make a fucking billion dollars?

On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:

Doesn’t matter what view you have I’m giving you the legal precedent here.  
I’m well familiar with digital publishing laws as well as common carrier 
status and the transmission and distribution.


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Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us

[Erik Burggraaf]

I'm not trying to start an argument here and this is the last I'll say, but 
your understanding of your rights as regards your emails is not correct, 
and I think it's very important to be clear on this.  It's not about what 
is nice or fair or polite.  It's about what is.  If you send me an email, 
control of that email leaves your hands and falls into mine.  If I ask your 
permission to repost it, that's me going the extra mile to be nice, but the 
email is now mine and I don't need your permission for anything.  It's not 
bad or even discurtious to forward an email without permission.  The system 
gives you credit for the work as long as I leave the content unmodified.


This is both the strength and the weekness of internet communication.  If 
you have something to sell or a service to provide or something to say 
that's particularly special, I can forward it to all my friends who pass it 
on to their friends and it propogates.  If I want to screw you and I am 
middlingly clever, I can add or remove content completely altering what you 
said.  Unless my alteration causes you substancial fisical, social, or 
economic harm, there is not a thing you can do about it.  Neither is there 
anything I can do about it if some one down the line alters it.  I could 
put my name on your work.  It's not copy writed.  I could publish your 
profound thought on my blog as my own, leaving a perminant record of that 
material as belonging to me, and then the material could be considered 
copyrighted and my property.


You could post sensitive information to an email list where people talk 
about mental illness, child wellfare, intimacy issues or any sensitive 
topic.  I could take that information and give it to local authorities, 
your family if I know who they are, or any one I think might be in a 
position to use it.  Your sensitive information litterally becomes my 
information in this medium.


This is why it's so important to be clear and why I'm taking so much time 
to explain it.  If you create something that you do not want in the public 
domain, never ever post it via email because control of the content 
transfers to the recipient.


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On April 21, 2017 8:33:17 AM alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote:

that is not true at all. if I am on a list sharing my thoughts it is my 
propperty. my writing. no one has the right to forward that. in your view 
someone could write something on a list. I could snag it and rpost it and 
say it’s mine, since in your words it becomes “my propperty’ that is 
frankly ridiculous!

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Once you send a message, it becomes the public domain and the property of 
the person who received it.


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Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us

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Once you send a message, it becomes the public domain and the property of 
the person who received it. All of the messages for this list are publicly 
archived for anyone to read with a search engine. Anyone can forward 
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use it the only way to keep control of your ideas and thoughts is simply 
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On April 21, 2017 7:18:51 AM alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote:

I hope no one is forwarding messages I send to this or any list without my 
permission! really not cool.
On Apr 21, 2017, at 12:53 AM, Michael Babcock, Host of the Your Own Pay 
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Cara:
I’ve forwarded this message on to zoom.
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RE: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

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I don't know about this on the iPhone, but since we're talking about an 
Android, yes, you can do VPN on a Droid. I think total Commander has an 
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On April 17, 2017 7:42:27 PM Simon Fogarty  wrote:


Hi Anders,

 Just thinking though, can you setup a mapped drive to a mobile device?

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Hi!
That could be a very intresting sollution.
I will check this out later.
/A

16 apr. 2017 kl. 09:39 skrev Simon Fogarty :

HI Anders,

Apologies for th edelay,

One thing I use which only works for work currently is VPN connection
to the network I'm accessing and then mapped or shared drives between my 
notebook and the machine at work.


Ok this is within windows but I'm pretty sure you can do the same thing 
with the mac os.


The main reason for VPN is to get the secure connection to the correct network.

I can do it with home as well but the VPN isn't working as yet,

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Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

Hi!
Okso what would you use my friend

14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty :

Is this just for file transfers between your devices?

I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.



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Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

Hi!
I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
/A

14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :

It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again 
I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse 
control hotkeys but I never saw it work.



On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
So they have to be side by side for example?
How do i get them side by side then?
/A

13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :

If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
time.



On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
move files.

But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
file transfer for android.
Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the file 
to be stored to.

I have opened it with command down arrow.
Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.

Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
/A

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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi Anders,

The android file transfer for mac is deficient as you saw.  I also tried an 
android app called droidnas.  This is a very cool idea.  You can get it 
from the play store.  I didn't get it to work but could be they have 
improved it or something about your devices will click.


Sharing a folder via ftp from your mac is a fabulous idea.  Turbo ftp from 
the play store is accessible and you can do the transfers quickly over wifi.


I think ES file explorer now has a network transfer option so you could 
look at that.


Finally there is tonido personal cloud and it's companion android app which 
also should work but provide you more flexible options such as secure 
streaming of media.


I lost interest in this topic when my mac went off to the great electronics 
recycler in the sky, but I did try to start a discussion on inclusive 
android when it was something I needed hard core and couldn't get.  You 
could try renewing that topic and see if any one else has ideas.


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On April 14, 2017 9:56:20 AM Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:


Hi!
I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
/A

14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:

It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again 
I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse 
control hotkeys but I never saw it work.



On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
So they have to be side by side for example?
How do i get them side by side then?
/A

13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:

If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
time.



On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
move files.

But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
file transfer for android.
Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the file 
to be stored to.

I have opened it with command down arrow.
Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.

Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
/A

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Re: printer with voiceover

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi,  I liked my samsung.  It was a minimalist as far as the onboard 
controls were conserned.  There was an apple configuration utility that was 
more or less accessible and there was a web interface for things like 
checking the ink level.  It programmed via usb, then connected to the 
wireless network.


I really like brother printers.  They are substancially cheaper than 
samsung and the software is a bit nicer, but the ink is a lot more 
expensive unless you know where to look.


HP was really flashing the touch screen interfaces for a while.  You need 
sighted assistance to get those connected.  Once connected though, samsung, 
hp, brother, and cannon all have web interfaces that work pretty well and 
even let you send faxes or iniciate photo coppies in some cases.


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On March 23, 2017 12:17:58 PM Marianne Robbins <maryfairy2...@gmail.com> wrote:

My printer is dying and needs to be replaced. I am looking for something 
that will work well with a MacBook pro with sierra 10.12.3. (It would also 
be great if i could print from iPhone or iPad, but not essential) I use 
voiceover screenreader. I need compact size and controls that are not 
touch-screen dependent. (Many of the ones I have seen use touchpad without 
voice.) It would be great if I could use the keyboard to control it, or if 
there are tactile clues. Economy is a factor for sure. I'd be grateful for 
any suggestions from other voiceover users that use a printer regularly. 
Thanks.

Marianne Robbins
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Re: teamTalk and PTT key

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Hello, the control key can be assigned when voiceover is turned on. I did 
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On March 12, 2017 7:35:27 PM Chris Moore  wrote:


Hello,
TeamTalk 5 is a chat client/server program.  Although most people seem to 
run it either windows or IOS, there is also a mac os version which appears 
to have at least limited accessibility.
My question is what key to assign for PTT.  Windows computers use the 
control key, but I don’t know if this will work on the mac because it is 
part of the VO key combination of control + option.


TIA
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Re: ot: seeking Brian Moor.

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Brian's phone number is 416-489-6690. Follow the prompts to find out what 
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On February 28, 2017 1:07:39 PM Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
wrote:



Hi folks,
I realize this is unique, but someone here may know  something I cannot
discover otherwise.
Brian Moor is a member of our list here.  He agreed to provide a small
expert witness review for a human right hearing, providing his resume to
my lowers and the legal  agency doing the review.  However, No one has
heard from him in several days, with his report due well today actually.
If anyone knows what might be happening with Brian please let me know.
Given his usual professional integrity, I can only guess something
serious has happened.  Not that  he is  abandoning his professional word.
Thanks,
Kare




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Re: A Good Comparison Between Microsoft on windows with jaws and Pages on mac With VOice over

[Erik Burggraaf]

Ultimately this is up to you, though you will have a bit of a learning 
curve regardless since you are considering a move to office 2016.


Pages gives you a similar range of short cut keys to office.  Both allow 
you to track changes, spell check inline, and read format attributes.  Both 
provide access to headings, tables, lists and other formatting.  I'mm not 
impressed with ribbons in office, even after 10 years of exposure, but I 
don't care for the pages info peigns either, and I'm not a huge fan of the 
multi-leveled approach to layout taken by pages.  Both approaches toward 
making a lot of options available really don't serve the blind or low 
vision well at all, though they are fully accessible and usible.


One advantage to office is it's handling of word documents.  At some point 
three to five years ago I think, apple decided it didn't want you working 
on anything other than it's own formats.  While not exactly revoking office 
format support, they've put a multi-step export process in place in stead 
of a convenient inline saving option to make it inconvenient to use office 
formats.  Pages format itself is quite bloated, incompatible with anything 
except for pages, and so far, it hasn't offered me key features I can't get 
by using word format in pages.  I was willing to tolerate the inconvenience 
of exporting to word for the benefit of not using windows.  I have decided 
that windows is not for me and nothing I've seen in the last five years has 
convinced me that the benefits outweigh any of the drawbacks.  I try to 
keep on top of my windows knowledge a bit because I may have to support it 
in a workplace, but that's about it.  Overall, I could not imagine trading 
a good mac for a cheep windows machine, especially if you need to upgrade a 
jaws licence in order to take advantage of modern software compatibility.


There's my broad stroke assessment.  If you have specific questions, feel 
free to ask.


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On February 24, 2017 6:49:04 AM Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> 
wrote:



Hello all my friends:
I need your expert Advice, as you know i have my Macbook, and am
running pages on it, all i need from my laptop is to write my
Researches inside my Colledge, and i bought the pages book, to study,
But am thinking all  the time even before studying, what is the best really?
I finished my master research with My Old Laptop running even Ms
Office 2003, and I studied all it's features etc, so now, will Pages
will give me more features and eas to use, that will make me study an
app from the very beginning? Or, i can sell my macbook, and buy a new
Windows 10 Laptop , even i can buy small Notebook, just to use this in
my Colledge?
I will use the Ms office 2016, i know every feature and will start now.
i need your experiences please
Thanks for your input and for your efforts.


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Re: contacting app developers

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi,  The regular channel is an app detales page where generally you will 
find an email address useful for contacting an app developer directly.  
Unfortunately, my experience with microsoft is that you will get an 
autoresponder alerting you that the email address on the store is not  
monitored.


Microsoft has an accessibility phone number.  Unfortunately, when I called 
it to address accessibility issues with a microsoft app I was told the 
accessibility department only handles desktop computing issues.  I was 
shuffled around to two or three other people before I got fed up of 
repeeting myself and getting stonewalled.


I left a less than favourable review.  Two months later some one responded 
to me directly on the play store as my particular product is android based. 
Then I could not find a way to respond back to their comment, which 
amounted to them saying "do you still have the problem?", and my attempting 
to say, "Yes of course,  It's not going to go away on it's own".


Most developers are very responsive, even if the response is merely "we 
don't care about accessibility and have no plans to improve it".  Microsoft 
is a different animal.


If any one has managed to get through to some one at microsoft to talk 
about accessibility of it's mobile apps, I would love to know how you did it.


Best,

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On February 21, 2017 4:36:17 AM Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:


Hi Listers,

I'm looking for some advise regarding a currently inaccessible app on my 
IOS devices.


The app is the Microsoft RDP client which as it is is very accessible until 
you make a remote connection to a machine in which any accessibility 
features go out the window or down the shute  depending on how you look at it.


I'm wondering how best to go about contacting the developers to ask if they 
can include a screen reader type feature to read out the remote connection 
window content?


Can anyone give any ideas on how this would be best done?

I'm hoping that doing this might lead to getting apple to do something 
similar from the IOS platform to a remote OSX connection.


Much thanks for any assistance you can provide.

Simon F

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Re: raspberry pie projects?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi Scott,

I'm not command line savvy, but I'm a fair ggood researcher and I can 
follow directions.  So, I have raspbian on my pi and I ssh in.  Recently 
the pi foundation prevented ssh server from starting with raspbian for 
security reasons, but I think the raspberryvi users either found a way 
around that limitation or else started distributing a legacy image which 
starts the ssh server and can then be updated live to keep ssh access.


you can find the raspberryvi users at www.raspberryvi.org.  They have user 
guides image downloads and email lists among other things.


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On February 17, 2017 10:40:38 AM Scott Granados  
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Hi,
I’ve been thinking about trying out some raspberry pie projects including 
building a small asterisk phone server on a pie.  Has anyone built any 
projects and has any suggestions of which kits to buy or a good starting 
point?  Also, how do you access the I/o on these, do you use a connected 
serial and set up over terminal, use a screen of some sort, etc?


Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you

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