[MBZ] 300D 2.5 12 PSI
It is back -- boost at 12 PSI and let me say it is PLENTY. It is a rocket. Boy, did I miss the turbo. It is hard to believe how much the turbo helps these motors. At least we know that 12 PSI is okay- and the lesson learned is that the ECU can shut down and cut boost if ONE of the transducers is bad or even intermittent. Anyway, I don't think there is an IP sensor issue- it was probably the transducer all along. Well, it is time to put some miles on this bird- it has been sitting since July!!! John Peterson, Kingston RI 1991 300D 2.5 74k www.immersionstudio.com/1991.asp 1990 300D 2.5 127k www.immersionstudio.com/1990 (southern car, for sale, wife didn't want it)
[MBZ] Broken cruise control handle
My cruise control handle/lever came cleanly out of the switch. I tried putting it back with JB Weld. That held for about 10 pulls on the lever then came out with the JB attached. It came cleanly off the lever and did not remain in the switch. It als came off the lever with my nail. Is there anything that can hold the two parts together and withstand the movement of the lever? Does anyone have any experience with this problem? Thanks --Anthony 1983 240D 63300
Re: [MBZ] Need help Finding Part
Larry, if its the part I'm thinking about there are a few aftermarket places
that still sell the original replacement part. Its a shift linkage bushing
right ? There is a short rod and a separate bushing for auto shift on the
floor. There is 2 bushings needed and the rod. The bushings are usually about
$2.00 and the rod is around $10. Here's a pic of what I found.. same thing ?
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
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Subject: [MBZ] Need help Finding Part
Howdy -
Got some bad news from Mercedes today. My '78 240D needs the control rod
that goes from the IP to the auto transmission. The bushing at the auto
transmission end has left the premises. Unfortunately, MB no longer makes
that part available!!I find it outrageous that MB would stop offering
the parts we need to keep their cars on the road! Especially when they make
such a big deal about the million mile cars they like to advertise!
So now I'm faced with locating a new bushing (I don't even know what it
looks like) or a replacement rod .
BTW, with the bushing gone, the AT shifts very poorly. late shifts,
slipping shifts, no downshifts, etc. no fun to drive like this. I have a
copy of the parts page showing the part if anyone might need to see it to
understand what part I'm talking about -- will fax if needed
Any suggestions??
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D - 123.123.12.050680)
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Re: [MBZ] Broken cruise control handle
I had the same problem recently with my 190D. I finally had to replace the whole switch--couldn't figure out a way to repair it. Kind of a pain in the 190, since you have to remove the steering wheel, with the airbag in it. Ron Dwelle On Oct 20, 2005, at 7:21 PM, Anthony Galioto wrote: My cruise control handle/lever came cleanly out of the switch. I tried putting it back with JB Weld. That held for about 10 pulls on the lever then came out with the JB attached. It came cleanly off the lever and did not remain in the switch. It als came off the lever with my nail. Is there anything that can hold the two parts together and withstand the movement of the lever? Does anyone have any experience with this problem? Thanks --Anthony 1983 240D 63300 ___
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
not. -England cracked down on all VO use - new or WVO becuase of road tax evasion...so only using WVO and not edible VO would not have stopped this clampdown. -About 30,000 Germans use VO. They are so happy to pay the bulk price for fresh oil (as opposed to their incredibly over taxed fuel at the pump) that they don't even bother with WVO, they keep 1,000 liter totes in their garages and have edible VO delivered by truck to their houses. No crack down. I can't see how anyone (except the gov) would be upset about increased sales of fresh VO. If I were Cargill, ADM, a farmer or Costco, then, great, more money for them. The govt will get involved only for tax or safety issues which are going to be the same for homebrewed BioD from WVO or WVO use or fresh oil use. AND, since we have no shortage of VO, I just can't agree wtih you. The 1/6 figure...it's meaningless since we obviously cannot convert ALL cropland to oil production! However, if ALL CRP land (the land the govt pays farmers NOT to farm) were converted to oil production, it would cover 6% of all US diesel needs. So a little above 1/20, but that's on ground that taxpayers PAY farmers to allow weeds to grow on...to say nothing of arable land that is not cultivated and not in CRP. And that is figuring soybeans, which produce relatively low yield of oil...other crops would jack that up significantly. Add to that the new plant in Carthage, MO that turns turkey guts to diesel or the operation in Germany that converts almost anything into diesel: http://www.alphakat.de/index.html http://www.changingworldtech.com/ http://www.res-energy.com/ then, we see light at the end of the tunnel. Will VO's and turkey guts ever totally replace DinoD? Don't know and I won't be around to find out, but it will certainly help in the relatively short term. Chris --- B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biovolks, Speaking as an ardent WVO biodiesel advocate, hearing about large scale vegoil use for diesel fuel troubles me. Vegoil is intended first and foremost for food, not vehicle fuel. If the entire available cropland in the US were converted to vegoil production, it would satisfy less than one-sixth of the fuel needs of the commercial truck fleet. Extensive retail purchasing of cooking oil for fuel will inevitably lead to an ugly backlash from government officials. Do we want the fuel doors on our cars to have a government seal to be opened only by a licensed dealer? If we think the government wields a heavy hand on occasion, just wait until people start messing with the nation's food supply. Prudence dictates that we should hunt down more WVO sources and leave the cooking oil alone. Cheers, Bruce [assumes defensive crouch] --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had lunch at Costco with my friend Jim, who is taking a trip this weekend. After downing 2 polish sausages, we went to my favorite aisle (#29) to get some soybean oil for him as my filter system is still not up to par yet (Costco oil is still substantially cheaper than D2 here)...there were three guys already there purchaing oil for their greasel kit. They had gone 800 miles on their own filtered WVO and figured new VO at Costco was better than the pump. BTW, they were driving a VW pickup. Hasta la Revolucion! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 194kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38
Re: [MBZ] Broken cruise control handle
Anthony Galioto wrote: My cruise control handle/lever came cleanly out of the switch. I tried putting it back with JB Weld. That held for about 10 pulls on the lever then came out with the JB attached. It came cleanly off the lever and did not remain in the switch. It als came off the lever with my nail. Is there anything that can hold the two parts together and withstand the movement of the lever? Does anyone have any experience with this problem? Thanks --Anthony I know of NO reliable repair except to replace the switch. Not sure about 123s, but there are three different switches used on 201s (and they were NOT interchangeable). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] 300 power steering fluid
Folks could one of you give me a quick answer, directly to me on this one ... what's the appropriate power steering fluid for a 1989 300te gas wagon also for my 300TD is dextron ATF ok to use (as Peugeot allows my other cars are french!) thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 power steering fluid
Rick Hawkins wrote: Folks could one of you give me a quick answer, directly to me on this one ... what's the appropriate power steering fluid for a 1989 300te gas wagon also for my 300TD is dextron ATF ok to use (as Peugeot allows my other cars are french!) Mercedes approves NOTHING except MB fluid (part # Q 1 46 0001) for cars manufactured after about 1987 and before 2000. Conventional Dexron ATF is too thick (ESPECIALLY when cold). Some have reported that Valvoline synthetic PS fluid works fine (I have NOT tried it). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 12 PSI
Put your foot down, say Yes - we're keeping it. I want both of them. Get yourself another car if yo don't like it. Then run -- -- -- -- Any advice from the list on how to convince wives to love diesels? Help, please! I want another one! John -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 12 PSI
Run it on WVO and buy her something nice with the money ya savedHeck that's an easy one to come up with to keep a precious car..DDUHHH HEHEHEHE, Mike - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 12 PSI Put your foot down, say Yes - we're keeping it. I want both of them. Get yourself another car if yo don't like it. Then run -- -- -- -- Any advice from the list on how to convince wives to love diesels? Help, please! I want another one! John -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] new fuel record
I drove from central to southwestern Indiana and back today, and diesel prices ranged from $3.09 per gallon* to $3.68 per gallon. I noticed that some stations have taken to advertising the price of the off-road diesel (the stuff the farmers buy that doesn't include road-use tax). *The $3.09 rate at Flying J didn't apply to cars, for some reason. At the car pumps, it was $3.15 per gallon. A note was stuck to the pump that said CAR DIESEL IS 6 CENTS MORE. Don't know why that would be, but it honked me off. Lowest price I noticed for gasoline was $2.49. On Oct 20, 2005, at 11:04 AM, Ron Dwelle wrote: New record here in Michigan. Today, diesel was $1.20/gallon higher than regular gas--$3.499 for diesel and $2.299 for regular unleaded.
Re: [MBZ] new fuel record
L. Mark Finch wrote: I drove from central to southwestern Indiana and back today, and diesel prices ranged from $3.09 per gallon* to $3.68 per gallon. I noticed that some stations have taken to advertising the price of the off-road diesel (the stuff the farmers buy that doesn't include road-use tax). *The $3.09 rate at Flying J didn't apply to cars, for some reason. At the car pumps, it was $3.15 per gallon. A note was stuck to the pump that said CAR DIESEL IS 6 CENTS MORE. Don't know why that would be, but it honked me off. The last #2 I bought in Indiana was 3.099 at the pump, then they pulled out a calculator and added sales tax making it effectively about 324.9.
[MBZ] happy moose day
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1136389.ece -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] throttle flap in 240d
Inspecting one of my '82 240Ds today, I realized it has a flap in its inlet like a throttle plate, actuated from rods from the go pedal linkage. I remember discussion of this a while back but I paid no attention as I thought I read it was on w115 240Ds only. Can anyone explain why it's there and what it does? The other car seems to have had one, at least part of the linkage for one is there (and it's the same year), but no longer does. Thanks Mac Aylmer, Quebec '60 220s / '82 240d (x2) / '82 300sd '75 Volvo 164e
Re: [MBZ] throttle flap in 240d
Steve MacSween wrote: Inspecting one of my '82 240Ds today, I realized it has a flap in its inlet like a throttle plate, actuated from rods from the go pedal linkage. I remember discussion of this a while back but I paid no attention as I thought I read it was on w115 240Ds only. Can anyone explain why it's there and what it does? The other car seems to have had one, at least part of the linkage for one is there (and it's the same year), but no longer does. The throttle plate is used to control vacuum that is used with SOME injection pumps to control fuel quantity - especially at idle. In those engines if the intake manifold leaks (vacuum drops), idle speed increases. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Need help Finding Part
crawl under a pick n pull car and liberate an example. Then go home
and cut something out of heavy rubber?
On Thursday, October 20, 2005, at 07:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Howdy -
Got some bad news from Mercedes today. My '78 240D needs the control
rod
that goes from the IP to the auto transmission. The bushing at the auto
transmission end has left the premises. Unfortunately, MB no longer
makes
that part available!!I find it outrageous that MB would stop
offering
the parts we need to keep their cars on the road! Especially when
they make
such a big deal about the million mile cars they like to advertise!
So now I'm faced with locating a new bushing (I don't even know what it
looks like) or a replacement rod .
BTW, with the bushing gone, the AT shifts very poorly. late shifts,
slipping shifts, no downshifts, etc. no fun to drive like this. I
have a
copy of the parts page showing the part if anyone might need to see it
to
understand what part I'm talking about -- will fax if needed
Any suggestions??
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D - 123.123.12.050680)
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Re: [MBZ] 60 MPH on I-5?! (was: Re: S320 vs. S350D.. or would that be S300D?!))
Don, Even without Raindogs, you can hit speeds above 65 with ease blasting past the big green T all the way to Southcenter. No way to get above 45 from there to Oly On Thursday, October 20, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Don Teresa Merriman wrote: You both have been drinking way t much Rainier. Those kind of speeds on that clogged highway? Or do you mean KPH? Don On 10/20/05, ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walt, you wrote: ...keeping it at about 60 MPH. Have done it several times on I-5 to and from Seattle and LAX. 60 MPH on I5, and you lived to tell about it?! normal flow of traffic out there is closer to 85-90 MPH, considering the speed limit is 70 MPH much of the way,...! cheers! e I can milk 30 MPG from my '92 300SD (S350) if I keep the junk out of the trunk, just me in the car and keeping it at about 60 MPH. Have done it several times on I-5 to and from Seattle and LAX. FYI my W140 weighs (with me and a full tank of fuel, 5000 lbs. 2500 on the front axel and 2500 on the back axel) A normal mix around town and freeway I get about 25-27 MPG. Walt Lasher '92 W140 (300SD) Seattle ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Don Teresa Merriman Market Place Mexico Vacation Rentals Property Administration www.marketplacemexico.com http://www.marketplacemexico.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] STL fest - update
Hello again, I've finally got a few remaining details nailed down for the weekend. I've mapped out a nice, senic, winding drive to take after we leave the museum, about 40-50 miles, through the heart of Missouri wine country. About halfway is Blumenhof's Vinyards (http://www.blumenhof.com/links.htm), which appears to be a nice place for a meal on a Saturday afternoon. They've got (of course) wine, a grill (full meal for under ten dollars), and live music in the afternoon. I think we should have plenty of time for the museum and tour if we were to meet at the museum at 11:00 (directions below), if no one objects. PLEASE RSVP at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are planning to attend. The weather forecast for Saturday is partly cloudy, high in the mid 60s; the fall foliage is in full bloom and is spectacular. Hope to see you soon! Tom Directions: (My cell is 304-615-1744 if you need assistance.) From the north and east (I55, I70, I64): Get on I64 west in downtown St Louis, and head way out of the city. Get off on Boone's Crossing in Chesterfield. Turn left and then and immediately turn left again on Chesterfield Airport Rd. (You're now looking at the world's longest strip mall.) In less than a mile you'll see Chesterfield Commons Dr; turn left and you're at the museum. From the west (I70): Exit 210 onto Hwy 40W/61S. Shortly after crossing the Missouri River you'll see the Bentley/Maserati dealer on your right (lots of Ferraris out front, hard to miss). Boone's Crossing is just after that. From the south (I55): Exit I55 onto I270N. Get on I64W and follow the north/east directions.
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Yup, messing with the food supply is the gummint's perogative, not the peoples'! --R B Dike wrote: If we think the government wields a heavy hand on occasion, just wait until people start messing with the nation's food supply.
Re: [MBZ] S320 vs. S350D.. or would that be S300D?!
I suppose fuel quality will have an impact. I have noticed there is a lot of differnce between 92 and 95 octane but not much between 95 and 98. Hendrik - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 vs. S350D.. or would that be S300D?! For what it's worth, 21/28 is pretty much right on the actual mileage I'm getting with my 94 S350. If anything, I do a bit better. I've heard from friends driving cars running on gasoline that they never achieve the mileage stated by the EPA estimates. Some do much worse. A relative bought one of the little hybrids rated at 70 mpg and reports never getting over 50, and usually getting 40 something. How does the EPA actually come up with those numbers? I would not recommend the S350 for city driving. It belongs on the highway. Preferably ones with very long on-ramps of the down-hill variety. -Dave Walton 94 S350 99 E300 On 10/20/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 1993, the city/highway epa ratings were: 300SD 20/23 (seems low to me) 300SE 15/19 400SEL 14/18 500SEL 13/17 All the gassers paid guzzler tax. In 1994, the numbers are more like I expected: S350D 21/28 S320 17/24 S420 15/20 S500 14/19 S600 12/16 All but the 320 and 350D paid guzzler tax. Now if fuel prices are $2.50x3.20, the S320 would be the winner, at least on the highway. And head gaskets are cheaper to replace than connecting rods. OTOH, expect fuel prices to be back to normal (at least the gasoline/diesel gap should close) before April '06. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: 19/10/2005
Re: [MBZ] throttle flap in 240d
In a message dated 10/20/2005 9:08:15 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Inspecting one of my '82 240Ds today, I realized it has a flap in its inlet like a throttle plate, actuated from rods from the go pedal linkage. I remember discussion of this a while back but I paid no attention as I thought I read it was on w115 240Ds only. Can anyone explain why it's there and what it does? The other car seems to have had one, at least part of the linkage for one is there (and it's the same year), but no longer does. Mac, There is a venturi in the flap area which generates a vacuum signal that goes over to the fuel injection pump to control fuel flow via a diaphragm.. It is also said that the plate will prevent the engine from running in reverse which used to happen with some regularity. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 138 K miles
Re: [MBZ] throttle flap in 240d
Jim, You are referring to the system used on the 115 body earlier Mercedes. Mac's 82 240D does not use the same system. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 2:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] throttle flap in 240d In a message dated 10/20/2005 9:08:15 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Inspecting one of my '82 240Ds today, I realized it has a flap in its inlet like a throttle plate, actuated from rods from the go pedal linkage. I remember discussion of this a while back but I paid no attention as I thought I read it was on w115 240Ds only. Can anyone explain why it's there and what it does? The other car seems to have had one, at least part of the linkage for one is there (and it's the same year), but no longer does. Mac, There is a venturi in the flap area which generates a vacuum signal that goes over to the fuel injection pump to control fuel flow via a diaphragm.. It is also said that the plate will prevent the engine from running in reverse which used to happen with some regularity. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 138 K miles ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Instant Merc collection
Ebay number 4583493553 Never mind the cost of fuel. Hendrik From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 21 09:21:39 2005 Received: from pop-cowbird.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.68]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ESt5n-0004y4-Bf for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:21:39 + Received: from user-1120t3p.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.116.121] helo=Bill) by pop-cowbird.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1ESt5l-0006hC-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:21:37 -0400 From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:21:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcXV+nC+2JfoCkrwTG6M+Cp8rpyGwwAJOrzg In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] One really brave thing X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:21:39 - Message: 7 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:12:58 -0500 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 12 PSI To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Put your foot down, say Yes - we're keeping it. I want both of them. Get yourself another car if yo don't like it. Then run -- -- -- -- Any advice from the list on how to convince wives to love diesels? Help, please! I want another one! John ** Reminds me of a pic I saw recently. A penguin is standing on top of a sleeping polar bear getting ready to crash cymbals together, penguin wife standing behind holding her purse. Caption: Do one really brave thing today ... Then run like hell. Not being the reckless sort I would add, But first make sure you can run faster than the bear. Point should be obvious. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 265K / 200K engine [?]
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD (euro?)
Ooh, no ACC! If only it were a 5-speed. On 10/20/05, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spotted this on Craigslist, sounds pretty good. With 220K on the clock, would this mean 220K after conversion if it's indeed a Euro model? http://portland.craigslist.org/car/105564308.html Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, currently between MB diesels Alex Chamberlain '87 300D turbo
[MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end
With the coming of the rainy season here in the PNW I have had a funny feeling that my 300D has less traction in the back than it used to. My tires are fine and there's probably 100 lb of tools, spare parts, and earthquake/avian-flu/zombie-uprising supplies in the trunk, but it's still fishtailing around wet corners whenever I hit the loud pedal a little too hard. Then today I noticed a little bit of lateral hopping when I hit expansion joints on the freeway... something I've only ever observed before on a '71 Dart that I used to have (with, of course, a solid rear axle, not IRS). The PO claimed to have replaced every wear part in the suspension a few years ago, but I doubt the truth of that. (When swapping wheels this past spring I noticed that the sway bar bushings in the back looked awfully dry and cracked.) So, no telling how old anything under the car is. Any ideas? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
I don't think the government is too concerned with the food supply -- we can all just eat cake, right? What will inevitably bring on regulation is the realization that they're losing motor fuel tax money. On Oct 20, 2005, at 6:03 PM, B Dike wrote: If we think the government wields a heavy hand on occasion, just wait until people start messing with the nation's food supply.
Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end
Alex: I've experieced all those same problems with 124's. The sliding rear end was caused by tires that did not have good wet road traction. Using tires with top shelf wet road traction seems especially important with a 124. The hopping wheel is classic shock abosober that needs replacement. Stick with Bilstein, Sachs or Boge. Of course, the many pivot points and links in the 124 rear suspension need maintenance, and that is the third thing I would check after tires and shocks. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD
Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end
ned kleinhenz wrote: Of course, the many pivot points and links in the 124 rear suspension need maintenance, and that is the third thing I would check after tires and shocks. Does it have a rubber mounted subframe like the 116 123?
Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end
The 124 has a 5 link suspension and wandering usually means that one of the links is worn out. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:23 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end ned kleinhenz wrote: Of course, the many pivot points and links in the 124 rear suspension need maintenance, and that is the third thing I would check after tires and shocks. Does it have a rubber mounted subframe like the 116 123? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
buying food is not messing with the food supply. Tainting it is. ADM's price manipulation is (and they got a big fine). Kraft's manipulation of the Cheese Exchange in WI to alter commodity milk prices is (consequently gov't changed how they set milk subsidies). If I buy a million twinkies and feed them to my parakeets, the govt won't give a shit. Just like If I buy 200+ lbs of VO and feed it to my car. Chris --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, messing with the food supply is the gummint's perogative, not the peoples'! --R B Dike wrote: If we think the government wields a heavy hand on occasion, just wait until people start messing with the nation's food supply. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] new fuel record
*The $3.09 rate at Flying J didn't apply to cars, for some reason. At the car pumps, it was $3.15 per gallon. A note was stuck to the pump that said CAR DIESEL IS 6 CENTS MORE. Don't know why that would be, but it honked me off. I guess the posted price was for home heating fuel. Lee
Re: [MBZ] One really brave thing
What got my wife was the prospect of converting to WVO. She is a stay at home mom so every pay day (mine), she gets paid too. Her fuel comes out of her pay/allowance as does some other household stuff - food, clothes, normal doctor visits, etc (other stuff,I take care of). The prospect of not having to pay for fuel (while I do all the filtering) caught her attention and she gladly sold her Toyota Sienna for an 87 300TD. She actually calls and asks questions: Q: I pulled the emergency brake release and the light stayed on A: Pull it again Q: When I'm driving, the oil pressure (how she knew it was oil pressure is beyond me) stays at three...what should I do? A: Nothing. Pull over and call me if it's NOT at three when you're driving. etc, etc. She actually likes it, but derives no benz pleasure as most do. The star on the hood does NOTHING for her. Maybe I need to get her to read a book on the history of MB...now THAT would be impossible. One thing that DID help, was a kept telling her stories about Rudolf Diesel as I was reading biographies of him...I think she identified with his strugle to build the engine, to make it work, to replace the terribly inefficient steam engine, to make a small engine for small businessmen, the murder, etc. I think that tugged on her heart strings. She embraced his engine as an expression of his social vision - yes, I'm being serious. Chris --- BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 7 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:12:58 -0500 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 12 PSI To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Put your foot down, say Yes - we're keeping it. I want both of them. Get yourself another car if yo don't like it. Then run -- -- -- -- Any advice from the list on how to convince wives to love diesels? Help, please! I want another one! John ** Reminds me of a pic I saw recently. A penguin is standing on top of a sleeping polar bear getting ready to crash cymbals together, penguin wife standing behind holding her purse. Caption: Do one really brave thing today ... Then run like hell. Not being the reckless sort I would add, But first make sure you can run faster than the bear. Point should be obvious. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 265K / 200K engine [?] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Oh, they'll care. Nothing about the food suplply though. (unless they decide to throw that spin on it) They'll care that you might be able to get from one place to another without paying a tax. I could more imagine that if this got out of hand (hard to say what exactly that would be), Maybe Vegoil will become more like explosives or hazardous materials, etc. and require a permit for large quantities (5 gallons or more). I can see them throwing out a headline like Permits required for vegetable oil as unscrupulous people are trying to buy untaxed fuel and are threatening our nations food supply! (Heaven forbid we should run out of cooking grease!) To get a permit you have to be a restaurant owner or otherwise in food services. That way they could try to prevent people from using it as fuel. I could pretty easily see that happening. What I don't find as likely is the obvious consipracy theory perspective that soon they will have computers in our car keeping track of our fuel and will have some tagging or other such thing so that the cops will get some sort of electronic notification when you drive past on illegal (untaxed) fuel. Though I suppose it's possible they could integrate something like that on new cars... Levi (: On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I buy a million twinkies and feed them to my parakeets, the govt won't give a shit. Just like If I buy 200+ lbs of VO and feed it to my car. Chris
Re: [MBZ] new fuel record
I feel almost evil in pointing out that diesel here in central MA dropped another $0.04 yesterday. $2.85 this morning. Gas is something like $2.60. -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:19:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new fuel record To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 For once I'm feeling fortunate to be in Western PA and shopping diesel. I can get it for 2.999 or 2.959 at a couple of places within a few miles of home. Regular gasoline is coming in at about 2.499 at the same stations. ...Kevin 87 300TD 277k mi - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 21 13:59:17 2005 Received: from web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.201.217]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ESxQS-00042u-Sl for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:59:17 + Received: (qmail 81522 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Oct 2005 13:59:13 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=O6x1liq/ZSI0wFnELtY20ANENi2IUFF85h0sWXjOKPogFrhU8ddqwEI0VpHbVGUn2ZSbRQ2Xo9Yf2r36Z6IT7YwtnEtLj0xM05nLG03xcu3KAjCOZ/xfYpKlSjJuU4/5uSmPfsJSdMqWyx9fJ2znewlSQUPtBtXEYp0E4U+PBuA= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.140.70.226] by web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 06:59:13 PDT Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 06:59:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] St Louis get together next weekend X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:59:17 - I'm hoping to still convince her that we can BOTH go and that St. Louis has hospitals too in the unlikely event the baby (Anneliese - Lisa for short) comes Saturday...more likely to come next week. Hoping against hope! I would love to be there, but a baby is cool too...must admit, cooler even than a benz... Funny that now none of the original instigators (except for you) can't come. The KC-ers just might come out later this fall and meet up with you and Dineal (spelling - sorry of not right). Chris --- tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: DAMMIT - wife is 30% effaced and dilating (according to doctor today), SO, I cannot come on Saturday...Dr. said maybe this weekend, maybe within a week (birth). I wish I could be disappointed, but I suppose a hearty congratulations is more in order. We may have to have an encore next spring - Jim and the rest of you KCers were pretty much the impetus for setting this up. Talk about picking the wrong weekend! I suggested Connie come along - there ARE hospitals in St. Louis - she did NOT like the idea. Lots of room in the back of the 300TD to give birth...NO! Have you tried explaining the importance of a Mercedes museum to her? Women... Tom ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness
NW D.C. Chevron Station was $2.99 last Saturday. YAY! On 10/20/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 12:14:32PM -0500, Loren Faeth wrote: Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. For the trip to PHX and back, here's what diesel prices looked like: Fri, gilroy, rotten robbie: $3.17 Sun, Frazier Park (aka the top of the grapevine), flying j: $3.13 Mon, phoenix area off Elliot and I-10, Circle K: $2.99 Tue, Payson AZ, Safeway: $3.02 (with club card) Tue, Kingman, AZ, truck stop with a mobil: $3.14 Weds, lost hills, pilot: $3.18 bakersfield was about $3.15 a gallon along SR 58 and SR 99. Kramer Jct was $3.21 at the truck stop, next door at the two gas stations $3.39. I think all there is to say about diesel prices is that there is no rhyme or reason to the price on the pump right now. K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Broken cruise control handle
Rusty - how much for a new CC switch (1983 123 turbodiesel) ? On 10/20/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Galioto wrote: My cruise control handle/lever came cleanly out of the switch. I tried putting it back with JB Weld. That held for about 10 pulls on the lever then came out with the JB attached. It came cleanly off the lever and did not remain in the switch. It als came off the lever with my nail. Is there anything that can hold the two parts together and withstand the movement of the lever? Does anyone have any experience with this problem? Thanks --Anthony I know of NO reliable repair except to replace the switch. Not sure about 123s, but there are three different switches used on 201s (and they were NOT interchangeable). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco
Hi Bruce, Actually I've thought about this some and to my way of thinking it wouldn't take much to push people off the svo, its that old supply and demand argument. When enough people start taking Chris and his pal's route one of two things will happen (or maybe a slight occurance of both); #1. The price of VO will rise to the point where diesel is cheaper and/or #2. The price of diesel will fall to the point where its cheaper than svo In either case once diesel is cheaper many of the people buying svo will switch back to diesel or work harder on their wvo options. Either way I can't see the number of people buying svo in bulk at Costco having any impact on the worldwide svo supply... Where did you get your data about how much svo the country could produce? The one good thing I could possibly see happening is some upward pressure on the price of svo could send some money back to farmers... -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:03:29 -0700 (PDT) From: B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Biovolks, Speaking as an ardent WVO biodiesel advocate, hearing about large scale vegoil use for diesel fuel troubles me. Vegoil is intended first and foremost for food, not vehicle fuel. If the entire available cropland in the US were converted to vegoil production, it would satisfy less than one-sixth of the fuel needs of the commercial truck fleet. Extensive retail purchasing of cooking oil for fuel will inevitably lead to an ugly backlash from government officials. Do we want the fuel doors on our cars to have a government seal to be opened only by a licensed dealer? If we think the government wields a heavy hand on occasion, just wait until people start messing with the nation's food supply. Prudence dictates that we should hunt down more WVO sources and leave the cooking oil alone. Cheers, Bruce [assumes defensive crouch] - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 21 14:08:17 2005 Received: from web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.66]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ESxZ7-00059B-FX for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:08:14 + Received: (qmail 39221 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Oct 2005 14:08:09 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6frg+TsR/5nm39nyPqXHPIWjtQ5GGqS9ADaZuD6R65bPws60JyTqf/17VFKO0SwyKhynmiNtnUuwvq8aj7IIJj7gLaV4IkjuVCMokaQwMdLLMU4iYUIBV1iQ2/oqI265LK2KnojI3wXWnZiK8gzHz2qv/pBysf9U2kQkr4wGwt0= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.140.70.226] by web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 07:08:09 PDT Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 07:08:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:08:17 - Agree - they'll care about road tax, like the govt did in England, but the original poster's argument was that fresh VO will provoke the govt to action but WVO will not. I DO DISAGREE with that as the England case proves as you are avoiding fuel tax either way. To extend your scenarios, there will be a LARGE fine for restaraunts releasing waste oil to anyone without a waste oil disposal permit (which will be expensive, but the grease companies won't care, becuase it will get all the VO-ers out of their grease). Let's just hope with all GW's talk about energy conservation, they follow the lead of the German govt and do nothing rather than the English and force everyone to go to the man for fuel. Freaking idiots - we do something good for the country, truly patriotic, that helps our fellow man (CHEAP RENEWABLE FUEL) and they crap on us. Hope it doesn't happen, but I can easily imagine it. Please fill out this form as you are buying more than 3
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
I agree completely. But I'm afraid unless this stays a real pain the butt for doing the wvo thing so that your average person isn't going to want to do the work himself(Personally I would much rather pay the money and fill up at a gas station than all the crap I go through to collect and filter and try to run my benz on wvo, but I don't consider the amount that it costs for me to drive as much as I do worth it. If my only travels were an occasional trip to town you can bet your butt that I would be back in my Subaru! but alas, my commute to work and such means I put on about 400-500 miles a week) But on the downside, if the government manages to believe that they're losing or just plain not getting money they could be I can't possibly believe that they're not going to start passing more laws to be sure they get their money. To be honest, I'm still a little unsure of the laws right now. If I go drive down the road here in upstate NY on WVO, am I breaking the law by not paying road tax? A couple months ago I thought the answer was no. But I've heard a couple comments in the last month that lead me to believe that the road tax is not on a per fuel basis, but on the plain fact that you're using fuel and you're on the road... Either way, I'm surprised they don't already have checks in place for restaurants as to where their waste oil is going. Levi Dang, I'm just going to have to start stockpiling some veggie oil for when the revolution comes! (: On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree - they'll care about road tax, like the govt did in England, but the original poster's argument was that fresh VO will provoke the govt to action but WVO will not. I DO DISAGREE with that as the England case proves as you are avoiding fuel tax either way. To extend your scenarios, there will be a LARGE fine for restaraunts releasing waste oil to anyone without a waste oil disposal permit (which will be expensive, but the grease companies won't care, becuase it will get all the VO-ers out of their grease). Let's just hope with all GW's talk about energy conservation, they follow the lead of the German govt and do nothing rather than the English and force everyone to go to the man for fuel. Freaking idiots - we do something good for the country, truly patriotic, that helps our fellow man (CHEAP RENEWABLE FUEL) and they crap on us. Hope it doesn't happen, but I can easily imagine it. Please fill out this form as you are buying more than 3 gallons of cooking oil - explicative restrained. Chris
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco
Agree. If everyone ran to Costco for fuel oil, it would be gone in 2 minutes and I'd be at the pump and them back in my garage with my filter bags... Chris --- Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bruce, Actually I've thought about this some and to my way of thinking it wouldn't take much to push people off the svo, its that old supply and demand argument. When enough people start taking Chris and his pal's route one of two things will happen (or maybe a slight occurance of both); #1. The price of VO will rise to the point where diesel is cheaper and/or #2. The price of diesel will fall to the point where its cheaper than svo In either case once diesel is cheaper many of the people buying svo will switch back to diesel or work harder on their wvo options. Either way I can't see the number of people buying svo in bulk at Costco having any impact on the worldwide svo supply... Where did you get your data about how much svo the country could produce? The one good thing I could possibly see happening is some upward pressure on the price of svo could send some money back to farmers... -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:03:29 -0700 (PDT) From: B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Biovolks, Speaking as an ardent WVO biodiesel advocate, hearing about large scale vegoil use for diesel fuel troubles me. Vegoil is intended first and foremost for food, not vehicle fuel. If the entire available cropland in the US were converted to vegoil production, it would satisfy less than one-sixth of the fuel needs of the commercial truck fleet. Extensive retail purchasing of cooking oil for fuel will inevitably lead to an ugly backlash from government officials. Do we want the fuel doors on our cars to have a government seal to be opened only by a licensed dealer? If we think the government wields a heavy hand on occasion, just wait until people start messing with the nation's food supply. Prudence dictates that we should hunt down more WVO sources and leave the cooking oil alone. Cheers, Bruce [assumes defensive crouch] - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Agree again. I'm afraid unless this stays a real pain the butt for doing the wvo thing so that your average person isn't going to want to do the work himself There are 2 VO pumps in the country - last checked, they sell at 90 cents/gallon. If could fill up on VO at $1.50/gallon, I wouldn't even THINK of collecting and filtering. THat's the idea behind my industrial centrifugal oil filter (when I get it)...take all the messy work out for people and them a BIG FAVOR by selling them VO at $1/gallon...when you no longer get posts from me, you'll know I'm in prison for some sort of fuel tax evasion. Chris P.S. There may be laws about disposal of oil, bet they are not strictly enforced becuase the point in the past was that the oil not get dumped somewhere...which doesn;t happen, but now there will be a new reason to enforce. Chris --- Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree completely. But I'm afraid unless this stays a real pain the butt for doing the wvo thing so that your average person isn't going to want to do the work himself(Personally I would much rather pay the money and fill up at a gas station than all the crap I go through to collect and filter and try to run my benz on wvo, but I don't consider the amount that it costs for me to drive as much as I do worth it. If my only travels were an occasional trip to town you can bet your butt that I would be back in my Subaru! but alas, my commute to work and such means I put on about 400-500 miles a week) But on the downside, if the government manages to believe that they're losing or just plain not getting money they could be I can't possibly believe that they're not going to start passing more laws to be sure they get their money. To be honest, I'm still a little unsure of the laws right now. If I go drive down the road here in upstate NY on WVO, am I breaking the law by not paying road tax? A couple months ago I thought the answer was no. But I've heard a couple comments in the last month that lead me to believe that the road tax is not on a per fuel basis, but on the plain fact that you're using fuel and you're on the road... Either way, I'm surprised they don't already have checks in place for restaurants as to where their waste oil is going. Levi Dang, I'm just going to have to start stockpiling some veggie oil for when the revolution comes! (: On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree - they'll care about road tax, like the govt did in England, but the original poster's argument was that fresh VO will provoke the govt to action but WVO will not. I DO DISAGREE with that as the England case proves as you are avoiding fuel tax either way. To extend your scenarios, there will be a LARGE fine for restaraunts releasing waste oil to anyone without a waste oil disposal permit (which will be expensive, but the grease companies won't care, becuase it will get all the VO-ers out of their grease). Let's just hope with all GW's talk about energy conservation, they follow the lead of the German govt and do nothing rather than the English and force everyone to go to the man for fuel. Freaking idiots - we do something good for the country, truly patriotic, that helps our fellow man (CHEAP RENEWABLE FUEL) and they crap on us. Hope it doesn't happen, but I can easily imagine it. Please fill out this form as you are buying more than 3 gallons of cooking oil - explicative restrained. Chris ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Need help Finding Part
you wrote:crawl under a pick n pull car and liberate an example. Then go
home
and cut something out of heavy rubber?
Good suggestion - but so far I haven't found any locally. Have sent emails
to junk yards all over the country asking for help.
Also, I removed the control rod yesterday to see if I can fabricate some
kind of bushing -- I have photos if anyone is interested --
BTW, Marshall suggested the MB Classic Center - I asked them yesterday
and they responded this morning - the control rod is NLA. But even though
the bushing is not shown in any parts diagrams I'm trying to get one of
those next. It's been my experience that if it's not shown on the parts
diagrams it's impossible to find.
Thanks for the help!!
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
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Re: [MBZ] One really brave thing
It must depend on the woman, or perhaps the length of time of enjoying the vehicle. My wife loves her Subaru. Probably mostly because it's the right color. (: But she is attached to it. Of course it's never really been a problem for the 6 or 7 years we've had it. I can think of only one time when it was still running (just not well) and she had me come get it and take it home. But she's more worried about my poor little car than upset at it. I don't think I can recall any time at all when she was upset at the car. On the very rare occasion something wasn't perfect with it, it's more like she tells me to make sure the car is happy. (: Levi On 10/21/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, I have found that it takes more time for a woman to fall in love with a particular car. Most important thing is that the vehicle does not leave her broken down in the middle of no-where(which is right next to some-where). Once a car has let a woman down she won't trust or like it again. My missus quite likes the dooh bruum(thistle green 84 230E) now that it has given us a couple of years of break down free service(touch wood). Hendrik
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Chris writes: I'm afraid unless this stays a real pain the butt for doing the wvo thing so that your average person isn't going to want to do the work himself There are 2 VO pumps in the country - last checked, they sell at 90 cents/gallon. If could fill up on VO at $1.50/gallon, I wouldn't even THINK of collecting and filtering. THat's the idea behind my industrial centrifugal oil filter (when I get it)...take all the messy work out for people and them a BIG FAVOR by selling them VO at $1/gallon...when you no longer get posts from me, you'll know I'm in prison for some sort of fuel tax evasion. There was a story published about a farmer, I think somewhere around here, who was producing far more BD than he could use. He sold it to his friends as a cleaning solution. It was up to *them* to determine their actual usage and any taxes due. Cleaning solution -- for cleaning out their diesel tanks :) Lee
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Levi writes: Either way, I'm surprised they don't already have checks in place for restaurants as to where their waste oil is going. Remember Levi, you're part of the lunatic fringe. 99% of the WVO picked up from restaurants today is hauled away by waste management firms and delivered to soap or candle factories, rendering plants, or municipal dumps. It's a non-issue. For now. But give me some time :) Lee
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD (euro?)
It's a Euro model - note the short rear bumper rubber ends and cloth interior. On 10/21/05, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooh, no ACC! If only it were a 5-speed. On 10/20/05, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spotted this on Craigslist, sounds pretty good. With 220K on the clock, would this mean 220K after conversion if it's indeed a Euro model? http://portland.craigslist.org/car/105564308.html Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, currently between MB diesels Alex Chamberlain '87 300D turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Last I knew Greasecar was selling oil, and there was a place over in Ithaca (about a half hour from my house in the wrong direction) selling for about $1 a gallon. I was assuming he's got enough notoriety to be collecting tax, but maybe not. I got into this for liking the idea of free fuel. But anymore, I'm not so sure how free it is with filters and such... And, yes some oil is getting thrown out. I know one Chinese place in Hornell, where I work was in trouble at one time cause they were plugging up the sewers with dumping in there. Another chinese place in Corning where I live and was picking up oil from was just putting it back in the cubies and then throwing it in the dumpster. This seemed like a perfect situation to me, but apparently it's still too much effort for them to either call me when they oil, or leave the cubes where I can get them. At one point they said the neighborhood would think it looked messy. And this is in the location where they already have spilled oil and lots of garbage boxes, etc. And next door is a computer place with a 15 foot tall pile of a couple hundred computer monitors... I should just go talk to them again. My problem is I'm not an outgoing person in the first place, and nothing against chinese people cause I would be worse if I tried to speak Chinese, but it is SO hard talking to them. We're both speaking American, but there's a disconnect somewhere in the middle... Levi On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree again. I'm afraid unless this stays a real pain the butt for doing the wvo thing so that your average person isn't going to want to do the work himself There are 2 VO pumps in the country - last checked, they sell at 90 cents/gallon. If could fill up on VO at $1.50/gallon, I wouldn't even THINK of collecting and filtering. THat's the idea behind my industrial centrifugal oil filter (when I get it)...take all the messy work out for people and them a BIG FAVOR by selling them VO at $1/gallon...when you no longer get posts from me, you'll know I'm in prison for some sort of fuel tax evasion. Chris P.S. There may be laws about disposal of oil, bet they are not strictly enforced becuase the point in the past was that the oil not get dumped somewhere...which doesn;t happen, but now there will be a new reason to enforce. Chris
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Would it be safe to dump a half cup to 1 cup of unfiltered (warm enough to flow) bacon grease into my fuel tank, assuming the tank is about 1/2 full? 1983 300TD (unconverted) On 10/21/05, Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi writes: Either way, I'm surprised they don't already have checks in place for restaurants as to where their waste oil is going. Remember Levi, you're part of the lunatic fringe. 99% of the WVO picked up from restaurants today is hauled away by waste management firms and delivered to soap or candle factories, rendering plants, or municipal dumps. It's a non-issue. For now. But give me some time :) Lee ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Man, this list has some odd obsession with bacon grease ;-). Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be safe to dump a half cup to 1 cup of unfiltered (warm enough to flow) bacon grease into my fuel tank, assuming the tank is about 1/2 full? 1983 300TD (unconverted) On 10/21/05, Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi writes: Either way, I'm surprised they don't already have checks in place for restaurants as to where their waste oil is going. Remember Levi, you're part of the lunatic fringe. 99% of the WVO picked up from restaurants today is hauled away by waste management firms and delivered to soap or candle factories, rendering plants, or municipal dumps. It's a non-issue. For now. But give me some time :) Lee ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Just want to get something straight about SVO
Dieselers, I have been putting B100 in my car at 5 gallon intervals topped of with #2 Diesel as a tonic for my car. I understand that it acts as a solvent and cleans out the whole fuel system. I do notice that when I get the B100 (before I fill up with #2) and I drive around with just the B100 that my car (90 300D 2.5) puts out dramatically less smoke (i.e. basically none or very little at wide open throttle). I do thing it seems to run quieter. I feel better about using this alternative fuel and doing my part to reduce our fossil fuel consumption (if it actually does reduce it). Here's my question: At any rate, I know that biodiesel is simply soy oil that has been transestrified (I am sure that is not the exact term or its spelling). What has to be done to plain old soy oil to use it in my car? Can I just buy it at CostCo/Sam's and dump it into my tank and the rate of about 1 part oil to two parts #2 diesel. Do I have to do anything else? B100 has had the water removed, correct? Do I have to do that with food grade soy oil? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] One really brave thing
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 06:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that DID help, was a kept telling her stories about Rudolf Diesel as I was reading biographies of him...I think she identified with his strugle to build the engine, to make it work, to replace the terribly inefficient steam engine, to make a small engine for small businessmen, the murder, etc. The murder? Craig
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Levi Smith wrote: If I go drive down the road here in upstate NY on WVO, am I breaking the law by not paying road tax? If you use a diesel engine, whatever fuel you put in it is subject to the federal exise tax, which I believe to be 24.4 cents a gallon. I believe if you made your own moonshine for the Subaru, you'd be OK on the fuel tax, but likely in violation of some liquor tax. I'm not sure where you'd stand if you put 20% WVO in your car with 80% road taxed D2 and called the WVO an additive, not a fuel.
Re: [MBZ] Just want to get something straight about SVO
You could just dump it in with diesel. That would be blending. That's about the least safe way to do it. But there are plenty out there doing it at up to 50% with supposedly no problems. But I definitely wouldn't do it if you're ever going to be running your car in a temp below 50 degrees. Above that and it's just iffy over the long term. Otherwise you heat it like kits from http://greasecar.com http://frybrid.com http://plantdrive.com http://frybrid.com etc to name a few, or make your own setup. Or you can make your own biodiesel which generally involves a water heater and oil and Methanol and Lye... Levi On 10/21/05, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dieselers, I have been putting B100 in my car at 5 gallon intervals topped of with #2 Diesel as a tonic for my car. I understand that it acts as a solvent and cleans out the whole fuel system. I do notice that when I get the B100 (before I fill up with #2) and I drive around with just the B100 that my car (90 300D 2.5) puts out dramatically less smoke (i.e. basically none or very little at wide open throttle). I do thing it seems to run quieter. I feel better about using this alternative fuel and doing my part to reduce our fossil fuel consumption (if it actually does reduce it). Here's my question: At any rate, I know that biodiesel is simply soy oil that has been transestrified (I am sure that is not the exact term or its spelling). What has to be done to plain old soy oil to use it in my car? Can I just buy it at CostCo/Sam's and dump it into my tank and the rate of about 1 part oil to two parts #2 diesel. Do I have to do anything else? B100 has had the water removed, correct? Do I have to do that with food grade soy oil? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] One really brave thing
Good point, the Sienna left us stranded once...luckily it was less than a mile from home. The Benzes haven't let us down yet, unless you count Wulf's low fuel light that did not come on and I pushed to 503 miles on one tank and then ran out (testing the light without diesel in the trunk is a bad idea). But she wasn't there for that...light now fixed. Chris --- Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, I have found that it takes more time for a woman to fall in love with a particular car. Most important thing is that the vehicle does not leave her broken down in the middle of no-where(which is right next to some-where). Once a car has let a woman down she won't trust or like it again. My missus quite likes the dooh bruum(thistle green 84 230E) now that it has given us a couple of years of break down free service(touch wood). Hendrik - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One really brave thing What got my wife was the prospect of converting to WVO. She is a stay at home mom so every pay day (mine), she gets paid too. Her fuel comes out of her pay/allowance as does some other household stuff - food, clothes, normal doctor visits, etc (other stuff,I take care of). The prospect of not having to pay for fuel (while I do all the filtering) caught her attention and she gladly sold her Toyota Sienna for an 87 300TD. She actually calls and asks questions: Q: I pulled the emergency brake release and the light stayed on A: Pull it again Q: When I'm driving, the oil pressure (how she knew it was oil pressure is beyond me) stays at three...what should I do? A: Nothing. Pull over and call me if it's NOT at three when you're driving. etc, etc. She actually likes it, but derives no benz pleasure as most do. The star on the hood does NOTHING for her. Maybe I need to get her to read a book on the history of MB...now THAT would be impossible. One thing that DID help, was a kept telling her stories about Rudolf Diesel as I was reading biographies of him...I think she identified with his strugle to build the engine, to make it work, to replace the terribly inefficient steam engine, to make a small engine for small businessmen, the murder, etc. I think that tugged on her heart strings. She embraced his engine as an expression of his social vision - yes, I'm being serious. Chris --- BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 7 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:12:58 -0500 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 12 PSI To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Put your foot down, say Yes - we're keeping it. I want both of them. Get yourself another car if yo don't like it. Then run -- -- -- -- Any advice from the list on how to convince wives to love diesels? Help, please! I want another one! John ** Reminds me of a pic I saw recently. A penguin is standing on top of a sleeping polar bear getting ready to crash cymbals together, penguin wife standing behind holding her purse. Caption: Do one really brave thing today ... Then run like hell. Not being the reckless sort I would add, But first make sure you can run faster than the bear. Point should be obvious. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 265K / 200K engine [?] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: 19/10/2005
Re: [MBZ] One really brave thing
Sounds like the Top Gear segment they had a week or so ago with the new Audi 4.2 V8 diesel. He was trying to see if he could average 40mpg and drive 800 miles without refilling. Got rather exciting as he's driving the last few miles with the trip computer reading 0 miles left, and he started to get some stuttering and he's in a construction zone where he couldn't break down... He did make it though! Levi On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point, the Sienna left us stranded once...luckily it was less than a mile from home. The Benzes haven't let us down yet, unless you count Wulf's low fuel light that did not come on and I pushed to 503 miles on one tank and then ran out (testing the light without diesel in the trunk is a bad idea). But she wasn't there for that...light now fixed. Chris
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Hmm... Does it burn? That seems to be the key. (: Of course, mixed with enough other fuel it would for a little while... Levi On 10/21/05, Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if my 2.5L will run on liquified cream cheese. Lee The Jewish Contingent grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:02 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today Man, this list has some odd obsession with bacon grease ;-). Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco
See my other post to know that I agree with the biofuels concept, but you are sort of stealing from your fellow man by using the roads he pays for without paying for them yourself... Thats what roadtax is all about, tax to use the roads. -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 07:08:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Agree - they'll care about road tax, like the govt did in England, but the original poster's argument was that fresh VO will provoke the govt to action but WVO will not. I DO DISAGREE with that as the England case proves as you are avoiding fuel tax either way. To extend your scenarios, there will be a LARGE fine for restaraunts releasing waste oil to anyone without a waste oil disposal permit (which will be expensive, but the grease companies won't care, becuase it will get all the VO-ers out of their grease). Let's just hope with all GW's talk about energy conservation, they follow the lead of the German govt and do nothing rather than the English and force everyone to go to the man for fuel. Freaking idiots - we do something good for the country, truly patriotic, that helps our fellow man (CHEAP RENEWABLE FUEL) and they crap on us. Hope it doesn't happen, but I can easily imagine it. Please fill out this form as you are buying more than 3 gallons of cooking oil - explicative restrained. Chris - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 21 15:17:51 2005 Received: from tomts25.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.188] helo=tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ESyeV-0004tO-5e for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:17:51 + Received: from [70.48.240.217] by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:17:44 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:17:39 -0400 From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:17:51 - Coming next: new seat pads from recycled bellybutton lint! ROTFL Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if my 2.5L will run on liquified cream cheese. Lee The Jewish Contingent grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:02 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today Man, this list has some odd obsession with bacon grease ;-). Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] One really brave thing
It is claimed by some that Diesel committed suicide. It's very unlikely. He had no reason to do so, was a devout Lutheran (i.e. go to hell for suicide), suspected he was being targeted, had already challeged the large fuel monopolies as he put it with his engine that would run on locally available fuels AND he helped outfit the French sub fleet with diesels (hacking off the German govt) and was on his way to England to do the same (hacking off the German govt and probably the French too)...so he was a marked man. His life insurance was paid without question and the Brits immediately screamed murder. Would make a good episode of Unsolved Mysteries. Chris --- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 06:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that DID help, was a kept telling her stories about Rudolf Diesel as I was reading biographies of him...I think she identified with his strugle to build the engine, to make it work, to replace the terribly inefficient steam engine, to make a small engine for small businessmen, the murder, etc. The murder? Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
recall that someone checked up in THEIR state and they considered it an additive...how about a 100% additive? Chris --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith wrote: If I go drive down the road here in upstate NY on WVO, am I breaking the law by not paying road tax? If you use a diesel engine, whatever fuel you put in it is subject to the federal exise tax, which I believe to be 24.4 cents a gallon. I believe if you made your own moonshine for the Subaru, you'd be OK on the fuel tax, but likely in violation of some liquor tax. I'm not sure where you'd stand if you put 20% WVO in your car with 80% road taxed D2 and called the WVO an additive, not a fuel. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Interesting! And I recall reading that the EPA allowed up to lik 15% used motor oil in your diesel fuel. That would seem to indicate that they weren't planning on collecting tax for it... Yep, main tank is diesel. The second one is just my additive. (: Levi On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: recall that someone checked up in THEIR state and they considered it an additive...how about a 100% additive? Chris --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith wrote: If I go drive down the road here in upstate NY on WVO, am I breaking the law by not paying road tax? If you use a diesel engine, whatever fuel you put in it is subject to the federal exise tax, which I believe to be 24.4 cents a gallon. I believe if you made your own moonshine for the Subaru, you'd be OK on the fuel tax, but likely in violation of some liquor tax. I'm not sure where you'd stand if you put 20% WVO in your car with 80% road taxed D2 and called the WVO an additive, not a fuel. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
cheese is milk solids, so no...butter, which is milk fat, yes. Diesel was advocating a butter powered diesel transcontinental train for the US - guess butter was cheap then. Modern butter - not sure what all is in it, prolly too much water - not sure. Chris --- Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if my 2.5L will run on liquified cream cheese. Lee The Jewish Contingent grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:02 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today Man, this list has some odd obsession with bacon grease ;-). Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Just want to get something straight about SVO
food grade soy oil should not have water in it. blending fresh oil and diesel is something that I doubt is much recommended, but there have been people doing it for years. I've done it for a few months with the AKP-Wagen (and alot of other stuff)- Luther has used up to 70% VO and 30%D2 and has done it for longer than I. THere are probably some risks, but as long as the temp is high enough and the mixture low enough to keep the viscosity right, I don't see a problem. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Obviously the engine was designed for D2, D1 or D2/kero mix...so whenever you do something other than that, there may be some risk. I've only put VO in the AKP-Wagen, not my nice SD nor the TD...still not comfortable without many more miles under my belt. Now with a kit (heats the oil, purges the lines, etc), no problem. Chris --- Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dieselers, I have been putting B100 in my car at 5 gallon intervals topped of with #2 Diesel as a tonic for my car. I understand that it acts as a solvent and cleans out the whole fuel system. I do notice that when I get the B100 (before I fill up with #2) and I drive around with just the B100 that my car (90 300D 2.5) puts out dramatically less smoke (i.e. basically none or very little at wide open throttle). I do thing it seems to run quieter. I feel better about using this alternative fuel and doing my part to reduce our fossil fuel consumption (if it actually does reduce it). Here's my question: At any rate, I know that biodiesel is simply soy oil that has been transestrified (I am sure that is not the exact term or its spelling). What has to be done to plain old soy oil to use it in my car? Can I just buy it at CostCo/Sam's and dump it into my tank and the rate of about 1 part oil to two parts #2 diesel. Do I have to do anything else? B100 has had the water removed, correct? Do I have to do that with food grade soy oil? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
I would never put anything in unfiltered. 1/2 cup of bacon grease in a tank of D2 will not significantly change the cloud point...Bacon grease IS salty (not good). But the two a re very misceable (how the hell do you spell that?), i.e. blend readily. 1/3 bacon fat and 2/3 diesel is like thin margarine if in the freezer over night... Bacon grease is kind of out there - would only put in my $500 rust bucket AKP-Wagen. Chris --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be safe to dump a half cup to 1 cup of unfiltered (warm enough to flow) bacon grease into my fuel tank, assuming the tank is about 1/2 full? 1983 300TD (unconverted) On 10/21/05, Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi writes: Either way, I'm surprised they don't already have checks in place for restaurants as to where their waste oil is going. Remember Levi, you're part of the lunatic fringe. 99% of the WVO picked up from restaurants today is hauled away by waste management firms and delivered to soap or candle factories, rendering plants, or municipal dumps. It's a non-issue. For now. But give me some time :) Lee ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Pronounced like knee how ma? On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tough one - you could tell them they are breaking the law and that you'll take their oil so they won't get in trouble, but then they might think you are the police or somethign. I took Chinese in college, so maybe say Ni hao ma? (hwo are you? to break the ice... Definitely try again. Chris --- Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last I knew Greasecar was selling oil, and there was a place over in Ithaca (about a half hour from my house in the wrong direction) selling for about $1 a gallon. I was assuming he's got enough notoriety to be collecting tax, but maybe not. I got into this for liking the idea of free fuel. But anymore, I'm not so sure how free it is with filters and such... And, yes some oil is getting thrown out. I know one Chinese place in Hornell, where I work was in trouble at one time cause they were plugging up the sewers with dumping in there. Another chinese place in Corning where I live and was picking up oil from was just putting it back in the cubies and then throwing it in the dumpster. This seemed like a perfect situation to me, but apparently it's still too much effort for them to either call me when they oil, or leave the cubes where I can get them. At one point they said the neighborhood would think it looked messy. And this is in the location where they already have spilled oil and lots of garbage boxes, etc. And next door is a computer place with a 15 foot tall pile of a couple hundred computer monitors... I should just go talk to them again. My problem is I'm not an outgoing person in the first place, and nothing against chinese people cause I would be worse if I tried to speak Chinese, but it is SO hard talking to them. We're both speaking American, but there's a disconnect somewhere in the middle... Levi On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree again. I'm afraid unless this stays a real pain the butt for doing the wvo thing so that your average person isn't going to want to do the work himself There are 2 VO pumps in the country - last checked, they sell at 90 cents/gallon. If could fill up on VO at $1.50/gallon, I wouldn't even THINK of collecting and filtering. THat's the idea behind my industrial centrifugal oil filter (when I get it)...take all the messy work out for people and them a BIG FAVOR by selling them VO at $1/gallon...when you no longer get posts from me, you'll know I'm in prison for some sort of fuel tax evasion. Chris P.S. There may be laws about disposal of oil, bet they are not strictly enforced becuase the point in the past was that the oil not get dumped somewhere...which doesn;t happen, but now there will be a new reason to enforce. Chris ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] throttle flap in 240d
In a message dated 10/21/2005 12:37:19 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim, You are referring to the system used on the 115 body earlier Mercedes. Mac's 82 240D does not use the same system. Tom, Is it possible that the 82 has a transplant of an earlier version of that engine? It sure sounds like it. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 138 K miles
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
I don't think a handful of diesel geeks picking up soybean oil at Costco is gonna raise any eyebrow over in DC...lets be real her e, how many people in this country actually buy food oil as fuel...just us nerds. BTW, went to Costco last night, bought five 35lbs jugs of soybean oil and filled up my car right there in the parking lot. My report (if anyone cares): Car runs slower, doesen't feel as sharp and seems to be using more compared to the dino fuel--it does run smoother though! One point that I haven't heard here on the list is that SVO stinks, it smells bad and makes me wanna barf. The smell is more akin to that of Asian fried smell than french fries or chicken. It has also made the inside and myself reek of grease...I have always disliked the smell of fried on me. Question, how much are you guys paying for 35lbs jug of soyoil at Costco? I payed $13.26ea. On 10/21/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coming next: new seat pads from recycled bellybutton lint! ROTFL Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if my 2.5L will run on liquified cream cheese. Lee The Jewish Contingent grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:02 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today Man, this list has some odd obsession with bacon grease ;-). Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
But bacon grease makes everything better! Time for breakfast... I think I'll go fry some pancakes in it. (Not putting any in my 300D, though.) On 10/21/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man, this list has some odd obsession with bacon grease ;-). Mac Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Chris wrote: If I buy a million twinkies and feed them to my parakeets, the govt won't give a shit. Just like If I buy 200+ lbs of VO and feed it to my car. I write: Twinkies??? Will our diesels run on twinkies? That'd be great, because there seems to be an inexhaustible supply of twinkies on the planet. For those from the Philadelphia area, TastyKake Krimpets would probably serve as a suitable substitute (if you could wrest them from their owners). Next stop, Krispy Kreme Oel. These half-baked ideas should provide ample fuel for flame throwing, thereby reducing the cost of diesel fuel worldwide! Regards, Mike Boerner 87 300SDL 125K 87 300D 130K
Re: [MBZ] R129 Plastic Smell FINAL ANSWER
Original problem was posed last year. Finally repaired a year later when my ACC controller went bad. Scroll down for final answer: On 8/28/04 8:22 PM, Deneal Schilmeister (iMac) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last two days, I've noticed a very peculiar smell in my SL500. I'm posting about it in case anyone might be familiar with this, although I know its IMPOSSIBLE to describe this smell. It's hard to describe because it is a smell I've never encountered, nor near anything I can describe. It seems to originate from the ventilation system, although I can't be sure yet. The smell is like a plastic burning smell, without the burning part. Very close to the plastic burning insulation smell of an electrical problem, without the acridity of the electric burning part of the smell. Well, that's the best I can describe it. I'll take it to my indie guy on Monday, but I thought I would present it here to see if anyone can add some help. Thanks alot On 8/30/04 8:50 AM, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A smell similar to what you describe accompanied the demise of the windshield washer nozzle heaters on my 201 series cars. It appeared and lasted several day on the two 201 I own that had windshild washer heaters. The smell was gone a few days later and the washer nozzle heaters have not worked since then. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 180Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 198Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 231kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm THE FINAL ANSWER The R129 roadster, as part of the center vent system, has an electronic circuit board in the bottom of the vents that controls the opening and closing of the dashboard vents, operated through rheostat type switches located at the lower portion of the center vents. In warm weather, should one be driving with the top down and the air conditioning on, condensation builds up on the center vents, which then drips down into the unit and onto the PC board. The center vent unit connects via pin connectors on the bottom of the unit. This dripping eventually shorts out the board and/or the connector pins, which then wreak havoc with the ACC unit. Although my indie has always talked about the expense to replace this unit; (indicating to me the repair community is aware of a problem) neither he nor the dealership could figure out why my ACC unit went crazy. Replacing the ACC unit twice did nothing. Finally, I took the car to the dealer, who agreed to throw parts at it until it was fixed. First they replaced the auxiliary vacuum pump, which did not fix the problem. Then they replaced the center vent assembly and all worked as it should. They had the car for three days, and ended up charging me 8 hours for diagnosis, $264 for the aux vacuum pump, and $580 for the center vent assembly (they call it part# 129-830-06-9115 Nozzle) I believe that this electronic center vent unit is unique to the R129 cars. So the moral of the story If you have one of these cars, don't drive with the top down ad the air conditioner on to the point that condensation accumulates on the center vents! +-- Deneal Schilmeister MBCA Gateway 1991-2005 1997 SL500 (93k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +--
Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end
Alex Chamberlain wrote: With the coming of the rainy season here in the PNW I have had a funny feeling that my 300D has less traction in the back than it used to. My tires are fine and there's probably 100 lb of tools, spare parts, and earthquake/avian-flu/zombie-uprising supplies in the trunk, but it's still fishtailing around wet corners whenever I hit the loud pedal a little too hard. Then today I noticed a little bit of lateral hopping when I hit expansion joints on the freeway... something I've only ever observed before on a '71 Dart that I used to have (with, of course, a solid rear axle, not IRS). The PO claimed to have replaced every wear part in the suspension a few years ago, but I doubt the truth of that. (When swapping wheels this past spring I noticed that the sway bar bushings in the back looked awfully dry and cracked.) So, no telling how old anything under the car is. Any ideas? You have described what happens when the rear links fail and need to be replaced with the revised/improved links. Rea shocks well past their prime wouldn't help either. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
yep - how'd you know? Chris --- Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pronounced like knee how ma? On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tough one - you could tell them they are breaking the law and that you'll take their oil so they won't get in trouble, but then they might think you are the police or somethign. I took Chinese in college, so maybe say Ni hao ma? (hwo are you? to break the ice... Definitely try again. Chris --- Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last I knew Greasecar was selling oil, and there was a place over in Ithaca (about a half hour from my house in the wrong direction) selling for about $1 a gallon. I was assuming he's got enough notoriety to be collecting tax, but maybe not. I got into this for liking the idea of free fuel. But anymore, I'm not so sure how free it is with filters and such... And, yes some oil is getting thrown out. I know one Chinese place in Hornell, where I work was in trouble at one time cause they were plugging up the sewers with dumping in there. Another chinese place in Corning where I live and was picking up oil from was just putting it back in the cubies and then throwing it in the dumpster. This seemed like a perfect situation to me, but apparently it's still too much effort for them to either call me when they oil, or leave the cubes where I can get them. At one point they said the neighborhood would think it looked messy. And this is in the location where they already have spilled oil and lots of garbage boxes, etc. And next door is a computer place with a 15 foot tall pile of a couple hundred computer monitors... I should just go talk to them again. My problem is I'm not an outgoing person in the first place, and nothing against chinese people cause I would be worse if I tried to speak Chinese, but it is SO hard talking to them. We're both speaking American, but there's a disconnect somewhere in the middle... Levi On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree again. I'm afraid unless this stays a real pain the butt for doing the wvo thing so that your average person isn't going to want to do the work himself There are 2 VO pumps in the country - last checked, they sell at 90 cents/gallon. If could fill up on VO at $1.50/gallon, I wouldn't even THINK of collecting and filtering. THat's the idea behind my industrial centrifugal oil filter (when I get it)...take all the messy work out for people and them a BIG FAVOR by selling them VO at $1/gallon...when you no longer get posts from me, you'll know I'm in prison for some sort of fuel tax evasion. Chris P.S. There may be laws about disposal of oil, bet they are not strictly enforced becuase the point in the past was that the oil not get dumped somewhere...which doesn;t happen, but now there will be a new reason to enforce. Chris ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
it does smell - I'm paying, I think, $12.36 + tax but the smell stays outside my car...exhaust leak? Chris --- Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think a handful of diesel geeks picking up soybean oil at Costco is gonna raise any eyebrow over in DC...lets be real her e, how many people in this country actually buy food oil as fuel...just us nerds. BTW, went to Costco last night, bought five 35lbs jugs of soybean oil and filled up my car right there in the parking lot. My report (if anyone cares): Car runs slower, doesen't feel as sharp and seems to be using more compared to the dino fuel--it does run smoother though! One point that I haven't heard here on the list is that SVO stinks, it smells bad and makes me wanna barf. The smell is more akin to that of Asian fried smell than french fries or chicken. It has also made the inside and myself reek of grease...I have always disliked the smell of fried on me. Question, how much are you guys paying for 35lbs jug of soyoil at Costco? I payed $13.26ea. On 10/21/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coming next: new seat pads from recycled bellybutton lint! ROTFL Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if my 2.5L will run on liquified cream cheese. Lee The Jewish Contingent grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:02 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today Man, this list has some odd obsession with bacon grease ;-). Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end
ned kleinhenz wrote: Alex: I've experieced all those same problems with 124's. The sliding rear end was caused by tires that did not have good wet road traction. Using tires with top shelf wet road traction seems especially important with a 124. The hopping wheel is classic shock abosober that needs replacement. Stick with Bilstein, Sachs or Boge. Of course, the many pivot points and links in the 124 rear suspension need maintenance, and that is the third thing I would check after tires and shocks. I discovered that if the rear tires are even slightly worn on the outside edge, they will permit lateral slide even if the links and shocks are fine, but failing shocks or worn links exacerbate the symptoms. ANY '86-'87 124 (not sure about '88 or precisely when the new links were introduced - may have been as late as '91) should have the links replaced with the revised (much beefier and different rubber compound) links even if they have not yet failed. The 124 and 201 have rubber rear subframe mounts that require replacement but usually the links fail MUCH sooner than the subframe mounts. I've replaced most of the links in my 201/124s (past and present), but only subframe mounts in one of them. Subframe mount failure has rather different symptoms - usually first noticeable as rear end instability at higher (50+ mph) speeds (the faster you go, the more unstable it becomes) and by rapid but symmetrical rear tire wear. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] One really brave thing
Whoa there. I have to correct one error. Lutherans DO NOT believe that you go to hell if you commit suicide. That is not our decision to make, that is God's-and we trust that in His grace he will bring a suicidee to His side in heaven. Luther, a born and raised Lutheran. -Original Message- From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 21, 2005 11:24 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] One really brave thing It is claimed by some that Diesel committed suicide. It's very unlikely. He had no reason to do so, was a devout Lutheran (i.e. go to hell for suicide), suspected he was being targeted, had already challeged the large fuel monopolies as he put it with his engine that would run on locally available fuels AND he helped outfit the French sub fleet with diesels (hacking off the German govt) and was on his way to England to do the same (hacking off the German govt and probably the French too)...so he was a marked man. His life insurance was paid without question and the Brits immediately screamed murder. Would make a good episode of Unsolved Mysteries. Chris Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
I knew that was going to come up...no exhaust leak. On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it does smell - I'm paying, I think, $12.36 + tax but the smell stays outside my car...exhaust leak? Chris --- Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think a handful of diesel geeks picking up soybean oil at Costco is gonna raise any eyebrow over in DC...lets be real her e, how many people in this country actually buy food oil as fuel...just us nerds. BTW, went to Costco last night, bought five 35lbs jugs of soybean oil and filled up my car right there in the parking lot. My report (if anyone cares): Car runs slower, doesen't feel as sharp and seems to be using more compared to the dino fuel--it does run smoother though! One point that I haven't heard here on the list is that SVO stinks, it smells bad and makes me wanna barf. The smell is more akin to that of Asian fried smell than french fries or chicken. It has also made the inside and myself reek of grease...I have always disliked the smell of fried on me. Question, how much are you guys paying for 35lbs jug of soyoil at Costco? I payed $13.26ea. On 10/21/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coming next: new seat pads from recycled bellybutton lint! ROTFL Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if my 2.5L will run on liquified cream cheese. Lee The Jewish Contingent grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:02 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today Man, this list has some odd obsession with bacon grease ;-). Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] R129 Plastic Smell FINAL ANSWER
Maybe you farted. On 10/21/05, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original problem was posed last year. Finally repaired a year later when my ACC controller went bad. Scroll down for final answer: On 8/28/04 8:22 PM, Deneal Schilmeister (iMac) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last two days, I've noticed a very peculiar smell in my SL500. I'm posting about it in case anyone might be familiar with this, although I know its IMPOSSIBLE to describe this smell. It's hard to describe because it is a smell I've never encountered, nor near anything I can describe. It seems to originate from the ventilation system, although I can't be sure yet. The smell is like a plastic burning smell, without the burning part. Very close to the plastic burning insulation smell of an electrical problem, without the acridity of the electric burning part of the smell. Well, that's the best I can describe it. I'll take it to my indie guy on Monday, but I thought I would present it here to see if anyone can add some help. Thanks alot On 8/30/04 8:50 AM, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A smell similar to what you describe accompanied the demise of the windshield washer nozzle heaters on my 201 series cars. It appeared and lasted several day on the two 201 I own that had windshild washer heaters. The smell was gone a few days later and the washer nozzle heaters have not worked since then. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 180Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 198Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 231kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm THE FINAL ANSWER The R129 roadster, as part of the center vent system, has an electronic circuit board in the bottom of the vents that controls the opening and closing of the dashboard vents, operated through rheostat type switches located at the lower portion of the center vents. In warm weather, should one be driving with the top down and the air conditioning on, condensation builds up on the center vents, which then drips down into the unit and onto the PC board. The center vent unit connects via pin connectors on the bottom of the unit. This dripping eventually shorts out the board and/or the connector pins, which then wreak havoc with the ACC unit. Although my indie has always talked about the expense to replace this unit; (indicating to me the repair community is aware of a problem) neither he nor the dealership could figure out why my ACC unit went crazy. Replacing the ACC unit twice did nothing. Finally, I took the car to the dealer, who agreed to throw parts at it until it was fixed. First they replaced the auxiliary vacuum pump, which did not fix the problem. Then they replaced the center vent assembly and all worked as it should. They had the car for three days, and ended up charging me 8 hours for diagnosis, $264 for the aux vacuum pump, and $580 for the center vent assembly (they call it part# 129-830-06-9115 Nozzle) I believe that this electronic center vent unit is unique to the R129 cars. So the moral of the story If you have one of these cars, don't drive with the top down ad the air conditioner on to the point that condensation accumulates on the center vents! +-- Deneal Schilmeister MBCA Gateway 1991-2005 1997 SL500 (93k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
geez, why cant the govt. just leave people (and business) alone. On 10/21/05, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well some said that govt. might step in about collecting grease, well crap it's has happened in Calif. Check this out http://tinyurl.com/8yfjm On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it does smell - I'm paying, I think, $12.36 + tax but the smell stays outside my car...exhaust leak? Chris --- Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think a handful of diesel geeks picking up soybean oil at Costco is gonna raise any eyebrow over in DC...lets be real her e, how many people in this country actually buy food oil as fuel...just us nerds. BTW, went to Costco last night, bought five 35lbs jugs of soybean oil and filled up my car right there in the parking lot. My report (if anyone cares): Car runs slower, doesen't feel as sharp and seems to be using more compared to the dino fuel--it does run smoother though! One point that I haven't heard here on the list is that SVO stinks, it smells bad and makes me wanna barf. The smell is more akin to that of Asian fried smell than french fries or chicken. It has also made the inside and myself reek of grease...I have always disliked the smell of fried on me. Question, how much are you guys paying for 35lbs jug of soyoil at Costco? I payed $13.26ea. On 10/21/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coming next: new seat pads from recycled bellybutton lint! ROTFL Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if my 2.5L will run on liquified cream cheese. Lee The Jewish Contingent grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:02 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today Man, this list has some odd obsession with bacon grease ;-). Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD (euro?)
If only it were a 5-speed. I would do just about ANYTHING to get my hands on it if it was! Nonetheless, it seems like it would be a wonderful car though a bit of a dog without the turbo OM617.952 engine. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, currently between MB diesels
Re: [MBZ] Need help with part
Hello all,
To everyone who helped with suggestions about obtaining a replacement
bushing for my control rod. After finding the control rod assy is NLA thru
MB Classic, and the bushing isn't shown at all on the parts diagram and
without a description on a parts diagram is *very* difficult to look up part
numbers.
Well, MB classic came thru! They sent a parts diagram showing the
control rod assy with the bushing clearly shown. This is a totally
different diagram from what the dealer has and from what's in my Picture
Parts Book.
MB Classic gave me a PN and price and suggested I contact my local dealer
for purchase. Did that, and the part will be here Tues.
Amazing - a tiny $2 piece of plastic that makes my 27 year old MB difficult
to drive - and they keep a stock of them somewhere!
Thanks again to all who suggested fixes ---
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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[MBZ] A couple of gas wagons fs (w124)
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Plastic Smell FINAL ANSWER
Our 1991 500SL had a similar problem, dash harness shorted out and nailed the instrument cluster. Good times. Biodegradable wiring strikes again! Jim 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL 1995 E320 - Original Message - From: George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] R129 Plastic Smell FINAL ANSWER Original problem was posed last year. Finally repaired a year later when my ACC controller went bad. Scroll down for final answer: On 8/28/04 8:22 PM, Deneal Schilmeister (iMac) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last two days, I've noticed a very peculiar smell in my SL500. I'm posting about it in case anyone might be familiar with this, although I know its IMPOSSIBLE to describe this smell. It's hard to describe because it is a smell I've never encountered, nor near anything I can describe. It seems to originate from the ventilation system, although I can't be sure yet. The smell is like a plastic burning smell, without the burning part. Very close to the plastic burning insulation smell of an electrical problem, without the acridity of the electric burning part of the smell. Well, that's the best I can describe it. I'll take it to my indie guy on Monday, but I thought I would present it here to see if anyone can add some help. Thanks alot On 8/30/04 8:50 AM, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A smell similar to what you describe accompanied the demise of the windshield washer nozzle heaters on my 201 series cars. It appeared and lasted several day on the two 201 I own that had windshild washer heaters. The smell was gone a few days later and the washer nozzle heaters have not worked since then. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 180Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 198Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 231kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm THE FINAL ANSWER The R129 roadster, as part of the center vent system, has an electronic circuit board in the bottom of the vents that controls the opening and closing of the dashboard vents, operated through rheostat type switches located at the lower portion of the center vents. In warm weather, should one be driving with the top down and the air conditioning on, condensation builds up on the center vents, which then drips down into the unit and onto the PC board. The center vent unit connects via pin connectors on the bottom of the unit. This dripping eventually shorts out the board and/or the connector pins, which then wreak havoc with the ACC unit. Although my indie has always talked about the expense to replace this unit; (indicating to me the repair community is aware of a problem) neither he nor the dealership could figure out why my ACC unit went crazy. Replacing the ACC unit twice did nothing. Finally, I took the car to the dealer, who agreed to throw parts at it until it was fixed. First they replaced the auxiliary vacuum pump, which did not fix the problem. Then they replaced the center vent assembly and all worked as it should. They had the car for three days, and ended up charging me 8 hours for diagnosis, $264 for the aux vacuum pump, and $580 for the center vent assembly (they call it part# 129-830-06-9115 Nozzle) I believe that this electronic center vent unit is unique to the R129 cars. So the moral of the story If you have one of these cars, don't drive with the top down ad the air conditioner on to the point that condensation accumulates on the center vents! +-- Deneal Schilmeister MBCA Gateway 1991-2005 1997 SL500 (93k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 83 300SD shifter ??
With about 119,000 miles I have noticed a sort of clicking noise coming from the shifter when in drive. I don't have the problem in drive. Any tips or hints appreciated. tnx 73 Hank WD5JFR From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 21 20:07:33 2005 Received: from mordred.punk.net ([216.218.194.216]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1ET3Aq-0002KH-Qq for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:07:33 + Received: from mordred.punk.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mordred.punk.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9LK7QI6029197 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:07:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mordred.punk.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j9LK7QfZ029195 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:07:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:07:25 -0700 From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] new fuel record X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:07:33 - On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 10:30:06PM -0500, L. Mark Finch wrote: *The $3.09 rate at Flying J didn't apply to cars, for some reason. At the car pumps, it was $3.15 per gallon. A note was stuck to the pump that said CAR DIESEL IS 6 CENTS MORE. Don't know why that would be, but it honked me off. Memory serving me, oregon was the same - the advertised rate was if you were a trucker with tax stamps (or something along those lines), which means the truckers were getting soaked elsewhere. It's been a while since I bought diesel in oregon though. K
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Chris - good word. The correct spelling is miscible. Why bacon fat? Because bacon grease has the combined virtues of 1) being a byproduct of one of life's wicked pleasures, 2) a pain in the a** to dispose of, and 3) a burden on the environment whether dumped down the drain or into the trash. On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would never put anything in unfiltered. 1/2 cup of bacon grease in a tank of D2 will not significantly change the cloud point...Bacon grease IS salty (not good). But the two a re very misceable (how the hell do you spell that?), i.e. blend readily. 1/3 bacon fat and 2/3 diesel is like thin margarine if in the freezer over night... Bacon grease is kind of out there - would only put in my $500 rust bucket AKP-Wagen. Chris --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be safe to dump a half cup to 1 cup of unfiltered (warm enough to flow) bacon grease into my fuel tank, assuming the tank is about 1/2 full? 1983 300TD (unconverted) On 10/21/05, Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi writes: Either way, I'm surprised they don't already have checks in place for restaurants as to where their waste oil is going. Remember Levi, you're part of the lunatic fringe. 99% of the WVO picked up from restaurants today is hauled away by waste management firms and delivered to soap or candle factories, rendering plants, or municipal dumps. It's a non-issue. For now. But give me some time :) Lee ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Need help with part
I have to confess that I love getting parts from the dealer. They look so
official in their individual plastic bags with nice blue/white color combo
labels, and of course the priceless tristar logo in all its sanctioned
glory...
On 10/21/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,
To everyone who helped with suggestions about obtaining a replacement
bushing for my control rod. After finding the control rod assy is NLA thru
MB Classic, and the bushing isn't shown at all on the parts diagram and
without a description on a parts diagram is *very* difficult to look up
part
numbers.
Well, MB classic came thru! They sent a parts diagram showing the
control rod assy with the bushing clearly shown. This is a totally
different diagram from what the dealer has and from what's in my Picture
Parts Book.
MB Classic gave me a PN and price and suggested I contact my local dealer
for purchase. Did that, and the part will be here Tues.
Amazing - a tiny $2 piece of plastic that makes my 27 year old MB
difficult
to drive - and they keep a stock of them somewhere!
Thanks again to all who suggested fixes ---
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Plastic Smell FINAL ANSWER
I can't imagine why anyone would want to drive with the top down and the A/C running full blast On 10/21/05, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our 1991 500SL had a similar problem, dash harness shorted out and nailed the instrument cluster. Good times. Biodegradable wiring strikes again! Jim 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL 1995 E320 - Original Message - From: George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] R129 Plastic Smell FINAL ANSWER Original problem was posed last year. Finally repaired a year later when my ACC controller went bad. Scroll down for final answer: On 8/28/04 8:22 PM, Deneal Schilmeister (iMac) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last two days, I've noticed a very peculiar smell in my SL500. I'm posting about it in case anyone might be familiar with this, although I know its IMPOSSIBLE to describe this smell. It's hard to describe because it is a smell I've never encountered, nor near anything I can describe. It seems to originate from the ventilation system, although I can't be sure yet. The smell is like a plastic burning smell, without the burning part. Very close to the plastic burning insulation smell of an electrical problem, without the acridity of the electric burning part of the smell. Well, that's the best I can describe it. I'll take it to my indie guy on Monday, but I thought I would present it here to see if anyone can add some help. Thanks alot On 8/30/04 8:50 AM, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A smell similar to what you describe accompanied the demise of the windshield washer nozzle heaters on my 201 series cars. It appeared and lasted several day on the two 201 I own that had windshild washer heaters. The smell was gone a few days later and the washer nozzle heaters have not worked since then. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 180Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 198Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 231kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm THE FINAL ANSWER The R129 roadster, as part of the center vent system, has an electronic circuit board in the bottom of the vents that controls the opening and closing of the dashboard vents, operated through rheostat type switches located at the lower portion of the center vents. In warm weather, should one be driving with the top down and the air conditioning on, condensation builds up on the center vents, which then drips down into the unit and onto the PC board. The center vent unit connects via pin connectors on the bottom of the unit. This dripping eventually shorts out the board and/or the connector pins, which then wreak havoc with the ACC unit. Although my indie has always talked about the expense to replace this unit; (indicating to me the repair community is aware of a problem) neither he nor the dealership could figure out why my ACC unit went crazy. Replacing the ACC unit twice did nothing. Finally, I took the car to the dealer, who agreed to throw parts at it until it was fixed. First they replaced the auxiliary vacuum pump, which did not fix the problem. Then they replaced the center vent assembly and all worked as it should. They had the car for three days, and ended up charging me 8 hours for diagnosis, $264 for the aux vacuum pump, and $580 for the center vent assembly (they call it part# 129-830-06-9115 Nozzle) I believe that this electronic center vent unit is unique to the R129 cars. So the moral of the story If you have one of these cars, don't drive with the top down ad the air conditioner on to the point that condensation accumulates on the center vents! +-- Deneal Schilmeister MBCA Gateway 1991-2005 1997 SL500 (93k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] One really brave thing
Sorry...but a devout early 1900's Lutheran would not consider suicide as a valid option out of a tight spot, right? You would agree that Diesel's strong Lutheran faith would be another argument against suicide...as opposed to membership in the Hemlock Society... Chris --- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoa there. I have to correct one error. Lutherans DO NOT believe that you go to hell if you commit suicide. That is not our decision to make, that is God's-and we trust that in His grace he will bring a suicidee to His side in heaven. Luther, a born and raised Lutheran. -Original Message- From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 21, 2005 11:24 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] One really brave thing It is claimed by some that Diesel committed suicide. It's very unlikely. He had no reason to do so, was a devout Lutheran (i.e. go to hell for suicide), suspected he was being targeted, had already challeged the large fuel monopolies as he put it with his engine that would run on locally available fuels AND he helped outfit the French sub fleet with diesels (hacking off the German govt) and was on his way to England to do the same (hacking off the German govt and probably the French too)...so he was a marked man. His life insurance was paid without question and the Brits immediately screamed murder. Would make a good episode of Unsolved Mysteries. Chris Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
I do get a whiff now and then, but not a constant odor. Weird. Chris --- Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew that was going to come up...no exhaust leak. On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it does smell - I'm paying, I think, $12.36 + tax but the smell stays outside my car...exhaust leak? Chris --- Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think a handful of diesel geeks picking up soybean oil at Costco is gonna raise any eyebrow over in DC...lets be real her e, how many people in this country actually buy food oil as fuel...just us nerds. BTW, went to Costco last night, bought five 35lbs jugs of soybean oil and filled up my car right there in the parking lot. My report (if anyone cares): Car runs slower, doesen't feel as sharp and seems to be using more compared to the dino fuel--it does run smoother though! One point that I haven't heard here on the list is that SVO stinks, it smells bad and makes me wanna barf. The smell is more akin to that of Asian fried smell than french fries or chicken. It has also made the inside and myself reek of grease...I have always disliked the smell of fried on me. Question, how much are you guys paying for 35lbs jug of soyoil at Costco? I payed $13.26ea. On 10/21/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coming next: new seat pads from recycled bellybutton lint! ROTFL Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if my 2.5L will run on liquified cream cheese. Lee The Jewish Contingent grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:02 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today Man, this list has some odd obsession with bacon grease ;-). Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] R129 Plastic Smell FINAL ANSWER
Andrew, Because you can..!!! Same logic applies to having the top down on a beautiful crispy December day with the heat turned all the way up! Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ 1980 300SD On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:13 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I can't imagine why anyone would want to drive with the top down and the A/C running full blast On 10/21/05, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our 1991 500SL had a similar problem, dash harness shorted out and nailed the instrument cluster. Good times. Biodegradable wiring strikes again! Jim 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL 1995 E320 - Original Message - From: George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] R129 Plastic Smell FINAL ANSWER Original problem was posed last year. Finally repaired a year later when my ACC controller went bad. Scroll down for final answer: On 8/28/04 8:22 PM, Deneal Schilmeister (iMac) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last two days, I've noticed a very peculiar smell in my SL500. I'm posting about it in case anyone might be familiar with this, although I know its IMPOSSIBLE to describe this smell. It's hard to describe because it is a smell I've never encountered, nor near anything I can describe. It seems to originate from the ventilation system, although I can't be sure yet. The smell is like a plastic burning smell, without the burning part. Very close to the plastic burning insulation smell of an electrical problem, without the acridity of the electric burning part of the smell. Well, that's the best I can describe it. I'll take it to my indie guy on Monday, but I thought I would present it here to see if anyone can add some help. Thanks alot On 8/30/04 8:50 AM, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A smell similar to what you describe accompanied the demise of the windshield washer nozzle heaters on my 201 series cars. It appeared and lasted several day on the two 201 I own that had windshild washer heaters. The smell was gone a few days later and the washer nozzle heaters have not worked since then. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 180Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 198Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 231kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm THE FINAL ANSWER The R129 roadster, as part of the center vent system, has an electronic circuit board in the bottom of the vents that controls the opening and closing of the dashboard vents, operated through rheostat type switches located at the lower portion of the center vents. In warm weather, should one be driving with the top down and the air conditioning on, condensation builds up on the center vents, which then drips down into the unit and onto the PC board. The center vent unit connects via pin connectors on the bottom of the unit. This dripping eventually shorts out the board and/or the connector pins, which then wreak havoc with the ACC unit. Although my indie has always talked about the expense to replace this unit; (indicating to me the repair community is aware of a problem) neither he nor the dealership could figure out why my ACC unit went crazy. Replacing the ACC unit twice did nothing. Finally, I took the car to the dealer, who agreed to throw parts at it until it was fixed. First they replaced the auxiliary vacuum pump, which did not fix the problem. Then they replaced the center vent assembly and all worked as it should. They had the car for three days, and ended up charging me 8 hours for diagnosis, $264 for the aux vacuum pump, and $580 for the center vent assembly (they call it part# 129-830-06-9115 Nozzle) I believe that this electronic center vent unit is unique to the R129 cars. So the moral of the story If you have one of these cars, don't drive with the top down ad the air conditioner on to the point that condensation accumulates on the center vents! +-- Deneal Schilmeister MBCA Gateway 1991-2005 1997 SL500 (93k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
According to the analysis dated 9/6, the pacific coast renderer's association sponsored the bill. That sucks - really bad. Chris, happy to be in MO where that probably won't happen for a while...might make it a point of visiting with my state rep on this and the Metropolitan Energy Center down the street from me (who has partnered with DaimlerChrysler to make, I think, propane Sprinters for Kansas City. --- Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well some said that govt. might step in about collecting grease, well crap it's has happened in Calif. Check this out http://tinyurl.com/8yfjm On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it does smell - I'm paying, I think, $12.36 + tax but the smell stays outside my car...exhaust leak? Chris --- Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think a handful of diesel geeks picking up soybean oil at Costco is gonna raise any eyebrow over in DC...lets be real her e, how many people in this country actually buy food oil as fuel...just us nerds. BTW, went to Costco last night, bought five 35lbs jugs of soybean oil and filled up my car right there in the parking lot. My report (if anyone cares): Car runs slower, doesen't feel as sharp and seems to be using more compared to the dino fuel--it does run smoother though! One point that I haven't heard here on the list is that SVO stinks, it smells bad and makes me wanna barf. The smell is more akin to that of Asian fried smell than french fries or chicken. It has also made the inside and myself reek of grease...I have always disliked the smell of fried on me. Question, how much are you guys paying for 35lbs jug of soyoil at Costco? I payed $13.26ea. On 10/21/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coming next: new seat pads from recycled bellybutton lint! ROTFL Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if my 2.5L will run on liquified cream cheese. Lee The Jewish Contingent grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:02 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today Man, this list has some odd obsession with bacon grease ;-). Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running
Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
I think my wife microwaves bacon...I should have her fry it and add the grease to the container I put on top of the refrigerator: WVO Thank You! Hard to filter if not mixed with some diesel or kero first. Chris --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris - good word. The correct spelling is miscible. Why bacon fat? Because bacon grease has the combined virtues of 1) being a byproduct of one of life's wicked pleasures, 2) a pain in the a** to dispose of, and 3) a burden on the environment whether dumped down the drain or into the trash. On 10/21/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would never put anything in unfiltered. 1/2 cup of bacon grease in a tank of D2 will not significantly change the cloud point...Bacon grease IS salty (not good). But the two a re very misceable (how the hell do you spell that?), i.e. blend readily. 1/3 bacon fat and 2/3 diesel is like thin margarine if in the freezer over night... Bacon grease is kind of out there - would only put in my $500 rust bucket AKP-Wagen. Chris --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be safe to dump a half cup to 1 cup of unfiltered (warm enough to flow) bacon grease into my fuel tank, assuming the tank is about 1/2 full? 1983 300TD (unconverted) On 10/21/05, Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi writes: Either way, I'm surprised they don't already have checks in place for restaurants as to where their waste oil is going. Remember Levi, you're part of the lunatic fringe. 99% of the WVO picked up from restaurants today is hauled away by waste management firms and delivered to soap or candle factories, rendering plants, or municipal dumps. It's a non-issue. For now. But give me some time :) Lee ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] R129 Plastic Smell FINAL ANSWER
Done that in a VW Cabrio - with gloves and tossel cap. Fun! Chris --- Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Because you can..!!! Same logic applies to having the top down on a beautiful crispy December day with the heat turned all the way up! Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ 1980 300SD On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:13 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I can't imagine why anyone would want to drive with the top down and the A/C running full blast On 10/21/05, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our 1991 500SL had a similar problem, dash harness shorted out and nailed the instrument cluster. Good times. Biodegradable wiring strikes again! Jim 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL 1995 E320 - Original Message - From: George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] R129 Plastic Smell FINAL ANSWER Original problem was posed last year. Finally repaired a year later when my ACC controller went bad. Scroll down for final answer: On 8/28/04 8:22 PM, Deneal Schilmeister (iMac) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last two days, I've noticed a very peculiar smell in my SL500. I'm posting about it in case anyone might be familiar with this, although I know its IMPOSSIBLE to describe this smell. It's hard to describe because it is a smell I've never encountered, nor near anything I can describe. It seems to originate from the ventilation system, although I can't be sure yet. The smell is like a plastic burning smell, without the burning part. Very close to the plastic burning insulation smell of an electrical problem, without the acridity of the electric burning part of the smell. Well, that's the best I can describe it. I'll take it to my indie guy on Monday, but I thought I would present it here to see if anyone can add some help. Thanks alot On 8/30/04 8:50 AM, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A smell similar to what you describe accompanied the demise of the windshield washer nozzle heaters on my 201 series cars. It appeared and lasted several day on the two 201 I own that had windshild washer heaters. The smell was gone a few days later and the washer nozzle heaters have not worked since then. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 180Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 198Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 231kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm THE FINAL ANSWER The R129 roadster, as part of the center vent system, has an electronic circuit board in the bottom of the vents that controls the opening and closing of the dashboard vents, operated through rheostat type switches located at the lower portion of the center vents. In warm weather, should one be driving with the top down and the air conditioning on, condensation builds up on the center vents, which then drips down into the unit and onto the PC board. The center vent unit connects via pin connectors on the bottom of the unit. This dripping eventually shorts out the board and/or the connector pins, which then wreak havoc with the ACC unit. Although my indie has always talked about the expense to replace this unit; (indicating to me the repair community is aware of a problem) neither he nor the dealership could figure out why my ACC unit went === message truncated === Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Need help with part
Andrew,
But when I last got parts from my local/closest dealer here, Chandler
MB, the individual plastic bags were printed Daimler/Chrysler and
had NO priceless tristar logo
Bummer! Just pay $ and get no sanctioned glory...
Take care,
Chuck
Phoenix AZ
1980 300SD
On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:11 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
I have to confess that I love getting parts from the dealer. They
look so
official in their individual plastic bags with nice blue/white
color combo
labels, and of course the priceless tristar logo in all its sanctioned
glory...
On 10/21/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,
To everyone who helped with suggestions about obtaining a replacement
bushing for my control rod. After finding the control rod assy is
NLA thru
MB Classic, and the bushing isn't shown at all on the parts
diagram and
without a description on a parts diagram is *very* difficult to
look up
part
numbers.
Well, MB classic came thru! They sent a parts diagram showing the
control rod assy with the bushing clearly shown. This is a totally
different diagram from what the dealer has and from what's in my
Picture
Parts Book.
MB Classic gave me a PN and price and suggested I contact my local
dealer
for purchase. Did that, and the part will be here Tues.
Amazing - a tiny $2 piece of plastic that makes my 27 year old MB
difficult
to drive - and they keep a stock of them somewhere!
Thanks again to all who suggested fixes ---
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Plastic Smell FINAL ANSWER
Which is why, when car shopping, I did not even entertain the THOUGHT of looking at any SL that did not have heated seats. My lady friend turns on the seat heat even in the summer as she says it eases her back pain. ___ Deneal Schilmeister St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:28 PM Andrew, Because you can..!!! Same logic applies to having the top down on a beautiful crispy December day with the heat turned all the way up! Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ 1980 300SD
Re: [MBZ] Just want to get something straight about SVO
Don, A modest amount of SVO will not harm your car but long term SVO use can cause severe engine damage due to combustion deposits and byproducts including epoxies, corrosives, and carbon compounds. These deposits affect injector spray patterns, piston rings, and other mechanical components. Biodiesel does not have this problem because the glycerines and sugars that create combustion deposits are removed by transesterification. Bruce --- Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dieselers, I have been putting B100 in my car at 5 gallon intervals topped of with #2 Diesel as a tonic for my car. I understand that it acts as a solvent and cleans out the whole fuel system. I do notice that when I get the B100 (before I fill up with #2) and I drive around with just the B100 that my car (90 300D 2.5) puts out dramatically less smoke (i.e. basically none or very little at wide open throttle). I do thing it seems to run quieter. I feel better about using this alternative fuel and doing my part to reduce our fossil fuel consumption (if it actually does reduce it). Here's my question: At any rate, I know that biodiesel is simply soy oil that has been transestrified (I am sure that is not the exact term or its spelling). What has to be done to plain old soy oil to use it in my car? Can I just buy it at CostCo/Sam's and dump it into my tank and the rate of about 1 part oil to two parts #2 diesel. Do I have to do anything else? B100 has had the water removed, correct? Do I have to do that with food grade soy oil? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 194kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Just want to get something straight about SVO
Transwho? On 10/21/05, B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, A modest amount of SVO will not harm your car but long term SVO use can cause severe engine damage due to combustion deposits and byproducts including epoxies, corrosives, and carbon compounds. These deposits affect injector spray patterns, piston rings, and other mechanical components. Biodiesel does not have this problem because the glycerines and sugars that create combustion deposits are removed by transesterification. Bruce --- Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dieselers, I have been putting B100 in my car at 5 gallon intervals topped of with #2 Diesel as a tonic for my car. I understand that it acts as a solvent and cleans out the whole fuel system. I do notice that when I get the B100 (before I fill up with #2) and I drive around with just the B100 that my car (90 300D 2.5) puts out dramatically less smoke (i.e. basically none or very little at wide open throttle). I do thing it seems to run quieter. I feel better about using this alternative fuel and doing my part to reduce our fossil fuel consumption (if it actually does reduce it). Here's my question: At any rate, I know that biodiesel is simply soy oil that has been transestrified (I am sure that is not the exact term or its spelling). What has to be done to plain old soy oil to use it in my car? Can I just buy it at CostCo/Sam's and dump it into my tank and the rate of about 1 part oil to two parts #2 diesel. Do I have to do anything else? B100 has had the water removed, correct? Do I have to do that with food grade soy oil? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 194kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Don Teresa Merriman Market Place Mexico Vacation Rentals Property Administration www.marketplacemexico.com http://www.marketplacemexico.com
Re: [MBZ] Just want to get something straight about SVO
second that, which is why many VO-ers run a tank of B100 every so often to clean the gunk out. I would Diesel Purge a little more often too. Chris --- B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, A modest amount of SVO will not harm your car but long term SVO use can cause severe engine damage due to combustion deposits and byproducts including epoxies, corrosives, and carbon compounds. These deposits affect injector spray patterns, piston rings, and other mechanical components. Biodiesel does not have this problem because the glycerines and sugars that create combustion deposits are removed by transesterification. Bruce --- Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dieselers, I have been putting B100 in my car at 5 gallon intervals topped of with #2 Diesel as a tonic for my car. I understand that it acts as a solvent and cleans out the whole fuel system. I do notice that when I get the B100 (before I fill up with #2) and I drive around with just the B100 that my car (90 300D 2.5) puts out dramatically less smoke (i.e. basically none or very little at wide open throttle). I do thing it seems to run quieter. I feel better about using this alternative fuel and doing my part to reduce our fossil fuel consumption (if it actually does reduce it). Here's my question: At any rate, I know that biodiesel is simply soy oil that has been transestrified (I am sure that is not the exact term or its spelling). What has to be done to plain old soy oil to use it in my car? Can I just buy it at CostCo/Sam's and dump it into my tank and the rate of about 1 part oil to two parts #2 diesel. Do I have to do anything else? B100 has had the water removed, correct? Do I have to do that with food grade soy oil? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 194kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] Leaves -126 Gutter
I saw about 1.5 foot wide strips of outdoor carpet at the hardware store last night...might get enough to flop over the gutter - that would be pretty simple. Chris --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051021/34668bda/attachment.bat ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] throttle flap in 240d
Could be, but I think you'd have interference between the oil pan, oil filter and cross member. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] throttle flap in 240d In a message dated 10/21/2005 12:37:19 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim, You are referring to the system used on the 115 body earlier Mercedes. Mac's 82 240D does not use the same system. Tom, Is it possible that the 82 has a transplant of an earlier version of that engine? It sure sounds like it. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 138 K miles ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end
The 124 and 201 have rubber rear subframe mounts that require replacement but usually the links fail MUCH sooner than the subframe mounts. I've replaced most of the links in my 201/124s (past and present), but only subframe mounts in one of them. Subframe mount failure has rather different symptoms - usually first noticeable as rear end instability at higher (50+ mph) speeds (the faster you go, the more unstable it becomes) and by rapid but symmetrical rear tire wear. Thanks Marshall. That all makes sense. I have had the subframe mounts go on another 124, so I'm familiar with those symptoms, and what I'm seeing now on this car is definitely different. I will investigate the links and probably go ahead and get new shocks all around---I'm sure they are original. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] R129 Plastic Smell FINAL ANSWER
On 10/21/05 3:13 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't imagine why anyone would want to drive with the top down and the A/C running full blast Then you have no imagination, I guess.
Re: [MBZ] new fuel record
rumor has it that L. wrote: *The $3.09 rate at Flying J didn't apply to cars, for some reason. At the car pumps, it was $3.15 per gallon. A note was stuck to the pump that said CAR DIESEL IS 6 CENTS MORE. Don't know why that would be, but it honked me off. Each state has their own fuel tax method. Some charge all their tax at the pump. Others require the trucks send money base on the miles traveled in-state. I believe Indiana is one that not all of the tax is on the fuel. Thus if you are not setup as a common carrier you don't have a way to pay the extra money for road tax. So instead they charge extra at the pump. Philip, no longer on top of fuel/road tax data
