[MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD ( OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory results from 3 off them . The one W123 ( the only one running Mobil 1 ) had high levels of Copper and Iron ( 29 and 71 ppm ) after 2000 km. Sodium, Siicon, Al , Cr , particulates, soot are all low . Lab suggested the oil pump is worn and I should test oil pressure . Well the oil pump had done only 6 km and oil pressures are good. The engine is loosing compression and oil consumption has increaseed since engine rebuild a few years ago so something is not right. Any ideas anyone? Am going to change oil to delo 400 and then see what the results are. Regarding the other car with poor results - I had just bought it - has been running on WVO for 3 km - well its oil had high levels of iron ( 93 ppm ) as well as particlates - diagonis by lab was that oil filter was being bypassed ie filter blocked. is this a problem with WVO ? Does the stuff get into the engine oil and block the filter? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] outraged by the sham known as the BCS
ROFLMAO! That is the ABSOLUTE greatest slam on the BIG 10 I've ever read. I LOVE IT! :) Keep up the good work Gary. Luther Gary Hurst wrote: I'm watching Georgia play LSU and kept a close eye on the Texas vs OSU game. I can't help but think what a shame college football is. Think about the gauntlet that you have to run to win the SEC or the Big 12, vs the walkover that is the Big Ten. Yet, every year, we are subjected to a championship game featuring one of these third rate midwestern frauds. And we will likely again, despite the obvious fact that no team in the Big Ten would get out of the SEC or Big 12 with less than 3 of 4 losses. What sway to this large midwestern land grant institutions have that they are given the right to defraud the American people like this year after year? Why aren't they playing against Boise State or Utah in a second rate bowl game where they belong? Everyone considers App State's victory over Michigan to be perhaps the greatest upset in college football history, but this is pure mythology. The better team won. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Peter's 300GD
Peter, How do you like your 300GD? How would you rate it compared to domestic and foreign SUV's? Is it a grey-market truck? A model worth seeking out? Are they really worth prices north of $12,000? What kind of mileage to you get? Decent enough ride for a daily commuter, or really meant to be used like an off-road capable truck? I've always thought they were pretty cool, but they seem to command ridiculous prices. I've only seen one for sale locally a few years ago, rusty and very high mileage, and they wanted $15k for it, AND IT SOLD! What is the big deal? -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Peter's 300GD
Max Dillon wrote: Peter, How do you like your 300GD? Is it a grey-market truck? I think they were officially exported to South Africa. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] getting ready to head back to okie acres
Had enough fun with the horses and the cows, fixing to head back to civilization. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
The first results - the high iron copper and loosing compression tells me that your cylinder walls bearings are wearing at an accelerated rate. I believe that the analysis company is suggesting the oil pump as a possible cause but the cause could just as easily be a poor rebuild, improper break-in or running out of oil sometime in the engine's past. The second cause could be the same as the first or the waste oil may have come out of a deep fryer made of mild steel what's in the oil is from the engine's blow by. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Merle Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD ( OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory results from 3 off them . The one W123 ( the only one running Mobil 1 ) had high levels of Copper and Iron ( 29 and 71 ppm ) after 2000 km. Sodium, Siicon, Al , Cr , particulates, soot are all low . Lab suggested the oil pump is worn and I should test oil pressure . Well the oil pump had done only 6 km and oil pressures are good. The engine is loosing compression and oil consumption has increaseed since engine rebuild a few years ago so something is not right. Any ideas anyone? Am going to change oil to delo 400 and then see what the results are. Regarding the other car with poor results - I had just bought it - has been running on WVO for 3 km - well its oil had high levels of iron ( 93 ppm ) as well as particlates - diagonis by lab was that oil filter was being bypassed ie filter blocked. is this a problem with WVO ? Does the stuff get into the engine oil and block the filter? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1744 - Release Date: 10/24/2008 6:08 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 10/25/2008 5:55 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190D diff update
Changed the oil in the diff on my 190D today. If you remember its howling, its gotten worse too... This is an easy job, 15 minutes the first time 10 thereafter. I put the car up on ramps, the 190D is hard to get under... My driveway is sloped slightly which probably caused me to not drain out all the oil. I only got a bit over a full quart (1.2 maybe) in before it started draining back out. The stuff that came out was filthy. I thought my Indy had changed it but now that I remember our conversation I think maybe he just checked it for level. He's an old school mechanic and I don't think he believes in Mobil 1. I should point out that I had to top up the engine oil while I was at it and the car is now consuming a quart in 5,000 miles which is well improved from a quart in 2,000 when I first converted to Mobil 1. Anyway I've got to go into Boston tonight, thats maybe 150 miles round trip. Will see if this makes any difference. As usual I don't expect a short term improvement (maybe since the old stuff was dirty) but will look for long term gains. I'll probably change again next week since I'm sure I didn't get it all out. Maybe turn the car around so the ass end is downhill. I had it uphill today as it rained yesterday but the ground had already dried by the garage. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear diff, one more time
BTW 14mm is correct, the 3 piece set from Autozone has it for $11.99. On the W201 the drain is at the bottom of the diff (go fig) on the passenger's side. The fill is on the driver's side forward of the axle. I wasted some time looking for it. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:06:23 - (UTC) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear diff, one more time To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 14 i believe One more time, what size allen key do I need for the rear diff plugs? Thanks -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D update
I got mine from McMaster Carr, they have an EXCELLENT website. Its like being able to go to the best hardware store ever and putter around until you find what you need. The stuff I got is all viton (not rubber ;) ) I bought 10 feet. Supposedly you need 3 feet (well 1 meter) per car. I have two cars... I got HIGH-TEMPERATURE VITON RUBBER TUBING, FIRM, 1/8 ID, 1/4 OD, 1/16 WALL, BLACK Which Luther (I think) recommended. 1/8 is 3.175mm. It feels thicker than the line its replacing, bends nicely without kinking and is overall quite pleasant to work with. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:25:20 -0400 From: Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D update To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Peter, thanks. How long have you been using Viton? Where do you get Viton hose? What size? Is the Viton all rubber or cloth cover? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] RE O/T Scamed by FLAPS
Correction, you've been scammed by a scammer. FLAPS = Friendly local auto parts store. Local being the important part here. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:17:05 -0400 From: Peter Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] O/T Scamed by FLAPS To: Bez Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Below is a complaint that I sent PayPal due to a failure of Autopartsgiant.com to deliver a part (ABS Controller) or respond to any of my communications. I post this not to show my stupidity (Trying to save %40 buying from an unknown). Secret Message to M/B fellows follows: we should all appreciate Rusty's Kalibs great service and honesty. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man that was simple! Rear Brakes 190D
Doesn't it make you feel good? When the time comes you'll be pleased how easy rotors are too. For the record the 17mm wrench in the $10 box end wrench set from Harbor Freight works a treat on a 240D. I've had 3 of 4 calipers off so far. The ones on my car were TIGHT (well Loctite...) and I beat on the wrench with a 3# hammer without breaking it... I've still got the fronts on my 240D laughing at me. Their time will come soon though, I'm gonna call Rusty this week, with grease in hand I'll attack 'em next weekend. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:00:56 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Man that was simple! Rear Brakes 190D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am proud of my meager little car fixin self. Finally went to hardware store and bought the 17mm shallow socket so I could proceed to try to remove the calipers. The two bolts came off quite easily (the joy of a NO rust car!!). After stupidly trying to tap out the pins the wrong direction, all went completely smoothly. Couldnt be much simpler! Its a good day. Calls for some brewery fresh ales from Hood Canal Brewery. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
The one with high iron levels, did you do the rebuild yourself? Sounds like a bad job was done and the rings are breaking down... When I first got my 190D oil analysis showed high iron levels and would force an oil change at ~8000 miles. Over the next 20,000 miles or so the iron levels reduced at each change so that now after ~75,000 miles of ownership iron levels are normal at 15,000 mile oil changes and I'm pondering 20,000... During the time of high iron levels the car started fine and had normal power. I theorized the car was carboned up and had sludge from the previous owner using cheap oil... -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:04:15 +0200 From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD ( OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory results from 3 off them . The one W123 ( the only one running Mobil 1 ) had high levels of Copper and Iron ( 29 and 71 ppm ) after 2000 km. Sodium, Siicon, Al , Cr , particulates, soot are all low . Lab suggested the oil pump is worn and I should test oil pressure . Well the oil pump had done only 6 km and oil pressures are good. The engine is loosing compression and oil consumption has increaseed since engine rebuild a few years ago so something is not right. Any ideas anyone? Am going to change oil to delo 400 and then see what the results are. Regarding the other car with poor results - I had just bought it - has been running on WVO for 3 km - well its oil had high levels of iron ( 93 ppm ) as well as particlates - diagonis by lab was that oil filter was being bypassed ie filter blocked. is this a problem with WVO ? Does the stuff get into the engine oil and block the filter? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D diff update
Maybe turn the car around so the ass end is downhill. You can use the oil sucker tube to go in after it! Pretend you're a dentist... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D diff update
Thats not a bad idea... I noticed today that I have 2 kinds of clear plastic fuel line, one is really clear, the other is tinted blue. A year after purchase the blue stuff is still supple and nice like when I bought it. The clear stuff has hardened and is stiff. It doesn't break easily but it doesn't really bend either... I'd be told back in the day the blue stuff was better, then the snowmobile shop started carrying only clear because of some availablity problems. Now I see that the blue really IS better... The sucker hose on the topsider is opaque clear (ie not tinted) and doesn't bend super well either but that was what it was like when I bought it. -Curt --- On Sun, 10/26/08, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D diff update To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 11:51 AM Maybe turn the car around so the ass end is downhill. You can use the oil sucker tube to go in after it! Pretend you're a dentist... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Timing Chain
Howdy - Forgot to include this question - what kind of mileage are people getting on W124 300D timing chains - using Mobil 1 for at least 1/2 it's total life.? I'm at ~160K now and have no reason to think it has stretched - but plan to check it soon - unless someone says the chains wear out at 100K I don't see a rush - since I have a fractured leg I'd have to pay a shop to do it and I'd prefer not to go to that extreme. ;-) if there's no rush - TIA - Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 Timing Chain Howdy - What's the procedure for checking the Timing Chain stretch on my W124 (eng. 602-962)? Same as I used on my '78 240D W123? My '91 300D 2.5 Turbo has about 160,000 miles on it - while on a steady diet of Mobil 1 for the last 60K, unknown before that. Thanks! Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Yes indeed I rebuilt the engine myself 5 years ago. I was meticulous and used OEM parts throughout. Used dino oil for the first two changes 500, 5000 km then switched to Mobil 1 . It never ran low in oil. Running in was carefully done follwing recommended practice. Peter 2008/10/26 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] The one with high iron levels, did you do the rebuild yourself? Sounds like a bad job was done and the rings are breaking down... When I first got my 190D oil analysis showed high iron levels and would force an oil change at ~8000 miles. Over the next 20,000 miles or so the iron levels reduced at each change so that now after ~75,000 miles of ownership iron levels are normal at 15,000 mile oil changes and I'm pondering 20,000... During the time of high iron levels the car started fine and had normal power. I theorized the car was carboned up and had sludge from the previous owner using cheap oil... -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:04:15 +0200 From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD ( OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory results from 3 off them . The one W123 ( the only one running Mobil 1 ) had high levels of Copper and Iron ( 29 and 71 ppm ) after 2000 km. Sodium, Siicon, Al , Cr , particulates, soot are all low . Lab suggested the oil pump is worn and I should test oil pressure . Well the oil pump had done only 6 km and oil pressures are good. The engine is loosing compression and oil consumption has increaseed since engine rebuild a few years ago so something is not right. Any ideas anyone? Am going to change oil to delo 400 and then see what the results are. Regarding the other car with poor results - I had just bought it - has been running on WVO for 3 km - well its oil had high levels of iron ( 93 ppm ) as well as particlates - diagonis by lab was that oil filter was being bypassed ie filter blocked. is this a problem with WVO ? Does the stuff get into the engine oil and block the filter? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 brochure Becker radio
I sold a early 70s Becker to a collector in Germany who paid ~$75 for it. The radio worked (AM-FM-SW) but the cassette did not.work. I seem to recall it had the ability to record to cassettes also - HTHs Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:49 PM Subject: [MBZ] 126 brochure Becker radio I have volunteered to help sort out all of the car stuff owned by my long time friend Don (who died last year of metastasized prostate cancer (never went to the doctor)) as a favor to his widow and found in a box a nice 126 brochure that might be of some interest to a dedicated 126 driver. He may have brought this home from one of his UK trips. It is 8 1/2 X 11 with about 53 pages and depicts Euro or UK models (corduroy seats and Euro lights) but is in English. It covers 380SE SEL plus 500SE SEL. I would say the condition is excellent for something stored in a box for all these years. I have no idea of it's value so if there is any interest, email me offline with what you are willing to pay. Photos available if needed. I also have a 1968 Becker Europa MU AM/FM radio with installation kit removed from a Porsche 911 long ago. I know nothing about Beckers and particularly if this radio has any value at all. Opinions requested. RLE ** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame0001) ** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Peter's 300GD
They were offically sold here so is not grey market. Can be used as daily driver - I get 10 -11 l/100 km. Peter 2008/10/26 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max Dillon wrote: Peter, How do you like your 300GD? Is it a grey-market truck? I think they were officially exported to South Africa. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man that was simple! Rear Brakes 190D
Tell me more! --R Zoltan Finks wrote: Its a good day. Calls for some brewery fresh ales from Hood Canal Brewery. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D diff update
Wrong end - more like a proctologist. You can use the oil sucker tube to go in after it! Pretend you're a dentist... -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Interesting, the rebuild was 60,000 km ago? Thats not long at all, clearly something is wrong and unfortunately I'd have to guess that a teardown is the only way you're going to know... -Curt --- On Sun, 10/26/08, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 1:06 PM Yes indeed I rebuilt the engine myself 5 years ago. I was meticulous and used OEM parts throughout. Used dino oil for the first two changes 500, 5000 km then switched to Mobil 1 . It never ran low in oil. Running in was carefully done follwing recommended practice. Peter 2008/10/26 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] The one with high iron levels, did you do the rebuild yourself? Sounds like a bad job was done and the rings are breaking down... When I first got my 190D oil analysis showed high iron levels and would force an oil change at ~8000 miles. Over the next 20,000 miles or so the iron levels reduced at each change so that now after ~75,000 miles of ownership iron levels are normal at 15,000 mile oil changes and I'm pondering 20,000... During the time of high iron levels the car started fine and had normal power. I theorized the car was carboned up and had sludge from the previous owner using cheap oil... -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:04:15 +0200 From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD ( OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory results from 3 off them . The one W123 ( the only one running Mobil 1 ) had high levels of Copper and Iron ( 29 and 71 ppm ) after 2000 km. Sodium, Siicon, Al , Cr , particulates, soot are all low . Lab suggested the oil pump is worn and I should test oil pressure . Well the oil pump had done only 6 km and oil pressures are good. The engine is loosing compression and oil consumption has increaseed since engine rebuild a few years ago so something is not right. Any ideas anyone? Am going to change oil to delo 400 and then see what the results are. Regarding the other car with poor results - I had just bought it - has been running on WVO for 3 km - well its oil had high levels of iron ( 93 ppm ) as well as particlates - diagonis by lab was that oil filter was being bypassed ie filter blocked. is this a problem with WVO ? Does the stuff get into the engine oil and block the filter? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Timing Chain
From one of Marshall's posts -- John, The failures you are fearing are VERY rare (once it's established you don't have a defective - fast wearing timing chain that were installed in a small percentage of 92-94 Mercedes diesels) if you pay any attention to maintenance. Simply checking the chain is THE way to insure then chain is not worn to the point of needing replacement. Checking the chain stretch will immediately let you know if you are experiencing abnormal chain wear (should average less than 1 degree every 100kmi). Chain stretch rate is a funcion of lubrication and is inversely correlated to oil change interval and the quality of the oil. Injection pump filures are extremely rare unless you play with it! Of all of the 60x engine I know of only 3 or 4 have have failed (I know of a few more that have been BROKEN). Vacuum pump wear rate is also correlated with the quality and cleanliness of the oil. Better oil that's kept clean causes less wear - AND if the vacuum pump is changed every 150-200kmi, the chances of a pump failure is considerably less than 1%. Even if the vacuum pump should fail, fewer than 5% will suffer serious engine damage. THESE just are not frequent problems. I've attached the TSB on checking the chain (change the chain if the wear exceeds 4 degrees - TSB says 3, but that was related to checking during the warranty period) but it will be stripped from the list copy. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:01 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - Forgot to include this question - what kind of mileage are people getting on W124 300D timing chains - using Mobil 1 for at least 1/2 it's total life.? I'm at ~160K now and have no reason to think it has stretched - but plan to check it soon - unless someone says the chains wear out at 100K I don't see a rush - since I have a fractured leg I'd have to pay a shop to do it and I'd prefer not to go to that extreme. ;-) if there's no rush - TIA - Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 Timing Chain Howdy - What's the procedure for checking the Timing Chain stretch on my W124 (eng. 602-962)? Same as I used on my '78 240D W123? My '91 300D 2.5 Turbo has about 160,000 miles on it - while on a steady diet of Mobil 1 for the last 60K, unknown before that. Thanks! Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D update
Curt What was the part number? I'm having trouble matching up what you have. Thanks Harry I got mine from McMaster Carr, they have an EXCELLENT website. Its like being able to go to the best hardware store ever and putter around until you find what you need. The stuff I got is all viton (not rubber ;) ) I bought 10 feet. Supposedly you need 3 feet (well 1 meter) per car. I have two cars... I got HIGH-TEMPERATURE VITON RUBBER TUBING, FIRM, 1/8 ID, 1/4 OD, 1/16 WALL, BLACK Which Luther (I think) recommended. 1/8 is 3.175mm. It feels thicker than the line its replacing, bends nicely without kinking and is overall quite pleasant to work with. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 brochure Becker radio
That Becker is worth $200 to somebody interested in a proper restoration. Gump has need, but not at that price. clay On Oct 25, 2008, at 8:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have volunteered to help sort out all of the car stuff owned by my long time friend Don (who died last year of metastasized prostate cancer (never went to the doctor)) as a favor to his widow and found in a box a nice 126 brochure that might be of some interest to a dedicated 126 driver. He may have brought this home from one of his UK trips. It is 8 1/2 X 11 with about 53 pages and depicts Euro or UK models (corduroy seats and Euro lights) but is in English. It covers 380SE SEL plus 500SE SEL. I would say the condition is excellent for something stored in a box for all these years. I have no idea of it's value so if there is any interest, email me offline with what you are willing to pay. Photos available if needed. I also have a 1968 Becker Europa MU AM/FM radio with installation kit removed from a Porsche 911 long ago. I know nothing about Beckers and particularly if this radio has any value at all. Opinions requested. RLE ** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame0001) ** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear diff, one more time
There is a Hazet toy I picked up that has all the bits needed for under car fluids in one tool. Best investment of $17 I made. Sadly I do not use the oil or trans bits on most of the cars clay On Oct 26, 2008, at 8:29 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: BTW 14mm is correct, the 3 piece set from Autozone has it for $11.99. On the W201 the drain is at the bottom of the diff (go fig) on the passenger's side. The fill is on the driver's side forward of the axle. I wasted some time looking for it. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:06:23 - (UTC) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear diff, one more time To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 14 i believe One more time, what size allen key do I need for the rear diff plugs? Thanks -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE O/T Scamed by FLAPS
The only slim hope I have of getting my $118 back is that PayPAl was acting as my agent. I've heard they can be nasty in these cases, time will tell. On Saturday I ordered from FLAPS. On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:35:15 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Correction, you've been scammed by a scammer. FLAPS = Friendly local auto parts store. Local being the important part here. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:17:05 -0400 From: Peter Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] O/T Scamed by FLAPS To: Bez Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Below is a complaint that I sent PayPal due to a failure of Autopartsgiant.com to deliver a part (ABS Controller) or respond to any of my communications. I post this not to show my stupidity (Trying to save %40 buying from an unknown). Secret Message to M/B fellows follows: we should all appreciate Rusty's Kalibs great service and honesty. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Pete Arnold 32° There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] O.T. Wee Acura Cooling Hoses
Is there any disadvantage to buying a length of the correct wee size heater hose and cut pieces to fit to replace the seemingly original preformed ones? No one I've found has the little preformed hose any more, but the dealer has a diagram and might have some lying around. Bob R '77 300D 197K '87 Acura Legend 197K '05 E320 60K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay Europas
I sold a early 70s Becker to a collector in Germany who paid ~$75 for it. The radio worked (AM-FM-SW) but the cassette did not.work. I seem to recall it had the ability to record to cassettes also -... While the sellers may be dreaming, there are a few on Ebay that look a lot worse than mine for 275 to 400 bucks. I am still a little bit intimidated by Ebay but I guess if Kaleb can make millions with it, I should get off the dime. RLE ** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Correct lube for plastic-to-plastic contact?
Sort of OT question but maybe not, considering. I took apart my Yamaha component CD changer because it refused to open---just a whining noise when you hit the open/close button. It's the kind with a carousel that slides out on runners like a kitchen drawer. I thought a CD might be somehow jammed inside and keeping the drawer from sliding out, but instead found that a tiny drive belt, running on pulleys to connect a motor to the rack-and-pinion arrangement that moves the drawer, was overstretched and slipping. I'm ready to order a replacement ($1.98 plus $8 shipping!), but I figured as long as I have the unit open, I should lubricate the runners and the rack-and-pinion setup. So the question is what kind of lubricant to use for these parts? There's some kind of white greasy stuff on there already, but I supppose I should clean it off (I have some 100% isopropyl alcohol already to clean the laser lens) and start over. Generally the rule is that grease manufactured from a synthetic base stock is safe for plastics, right? Can I just use ordinary FLAPS white lithium grease? Is there something special about the stuff sold specifically for electronics applications that justifies the outrageous price for such a small quantity? (E.g., http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/20-1325) Any other advice on this job from the electronics and audio gurus on the list (Jim, Mitch, etc.)? Thanks! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Correct lube for plastic-to-plastic contact?
Leave all of the white greasy stuff where it's at and just replace the belt. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 2:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Correct lube for plastic-to-plastic contact? Sort of OT question but maybe not, considering. I took apart my Yamaha component CD changer because it refused to open---just a whining noise when you hit the open/close button. It's the kind with a carousel that slides out on runners like a kitchen drawer. I thought a CD might be somehow jammed inside and keeping the drawer from sliding out, but instead found that a tiny drive belt, running on pulleys to connect a motor to the rack-and-pinion arrangement that moves the drawer, was overstretched and slipping. I'm ready to order a replacement ($1.98 plus $8 shipping!), but I figured as long as I have the unit open, I should lubricate the runners and the rack-and-pinion setup. So the question is what kind of lubricant to use for these parts? There's some kind of white greasy stuff on there already, but I supppose I should clean it off (I have some 100% isopropyl alcohol already to clean the laser lens) and start over. Generally the rule is that grease manufactured from a synthetic base stock is safe for plastics, right? Can I just use ordinary FLAPS white lithium grease? Is there something special about the stuff sold specifically for electronics applications that justifies the outrageous price for such a small quantity? (E.g., http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/20-1325) Any other advice on this job from the electronics and audio gurus on the list (Jim, Mitch, etc.)? Thanks! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 10/25/2008 5:55 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 10/25/2008 5:55 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE O/T Scamed by FLAPS
Peter Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only slim hope I have of getting my $118 back is that PayPAl was acting as my agent. I've heard they can be nasty in these cases, time will tell. Give it plenty of time. Last week I received ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of receipt of a dispute I'd started with Pay Pal back in July. Luckily I'm only dealing with $25 (perhaps they will act faster if a larger amount is in question?) Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem
Some of the standard tests might help - leakdown test, compression test,etc might offer a clue. If those tests show a low cylinder *then* a teardown is last resort - IMHO. Hard starting when cold (the colder the better) will be the best test of the cylinder head / combustion system than anything else. A engine rebuilt that recently should behave like a new engine fresh from the MB dealer. Low oil pressure indicates a main bearing problem - when the engine is fully warmed up - and the oil is warmed also - the oil pressure should jump to the peg and be at 3 bar/45# or so before you are at 3000rpm- that's according to the manual - and probably covers high mileage engines also. On a rebuilt engine I'd expect to see it idle just below 2 bar (a little less than 30) when warm and go to 3 bar (45) as soon as the accel pedal is pushed. Rod bearings are tough to diagnose on a diesel - because of the noise alwys present - But the above might be a start - Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem Interesting, the rebuild was 60,000 km ago? Thats not long at all, clearly something is wrong and unfortunately I'd have to guess that a teardown is the only way you're going to know... -Curt --- On Sun, 10/26/08, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 1:06 PM Yes indeed I rebuilt the engine myself 5 years ago. I was meticulous and used OEM parts throughout. Used dino oil for the first two changes 500, 5000 km then switched to Mobil 1 . It never ran low in oil. Running in was carefully done follwing recommended practice. Peter 2008/10/26 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] The one with high iron levels, did you do the rebuild yourself? Sounds like a bad job was done and the rings are breaking down... When I first got my 190D oil analysis showed high iron levels and would force an oil change at ~8000 miles. Over the next 20,000 miles or so the iron levels reduced at each change so that now after ~75,000 miles of ownership iron levels are normal at 15,000 mile oil changes and I'm pondering 20,000... During the time of high iron levels the car started fine and had normal power. I theorized the car was carboned up and had sludge from the previous owner using cheap oil... -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:04:15 +0200 From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Oil analysis problem To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sent oil samples from my 5 300D 's to the lab ( 3 x W123's , 1x 300GD ( OM617 ) and 1xW124 ) and got satisfatcory results from 3 off them . The one W123 ( the only one running Mobil 1 ) had high levels of Copper and Iron ( 29 and 71 ppm ) after 2000 km. Sodium, Siicon, Al , Cr , particulates, soot are all low . Lab suggested the oil pump is worn and I should test oil pressure . Well the oil pump had done only 6 km and oil pressures are good. The engine is loosing compression and oil consumption has increaseed since engine rebuild a few years ago so something is not right. Any ideas anyone? Am going to change oil to delo 400 and then see what the results are. Regarding the other car with poor results - I had just bought it - has been running on WVO for 3 km - well its oil had high levels of iron ( 93 ppm ) as well as particlates - diagonis by lab was that oil filter was being bypassed ie filter blocked. is this a problem with WVO ? Does the stuff get into the engine oil and block the filter? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Never find out
On Oct 16, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Chuck Landenberger wrote: Here's an analysis of the last year of the Clinton administration taxes and the last year of the Bush taxes assuming Obama taxes will look like Clinton's last year's rates. It's projected at three income levels Draw your own conclusions! And please do so before you vote! -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Tax Analysis.doc Type: application/octet-stream Size: 59392 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ attachments/20081016/5bb2e89a/attachment.obj -- next part -- I got this back before the Conventions and maybe sent it to the List. If so, sorry, but maybe worth another look! Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 16, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Chuck Landenberger wrote: Maybe it's not defined on purpose and the milling throngs just get sucked in by no new taxes or maybe it's sharing the wealth. It'll be 'sharing the wealth', for 'Bama is more socialist than Gore or Hillary. The way I heard it (may need confirmation) is that Barry wants all the Bush tax cuts to expire, then he won't raise taxes beyond that level we paid under Clinton. That would mean losing the retirement saver's credit for low income households, the 100% deduction on health insurance for the self employed, the $1000 child tax credit, the additional child tax credit, the ?121 home sale profit exclusion, the 10% tax bracket, the reduced tax rates on capital gains and qualified dividends, ... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] IGNORE PREVIOUS EMAIL.......Delete Before reading!
EXCUSE me.. Just a fat finger action sent last post by me. Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man that was simple! Rear Brakes 190D
Hood Canal Brewery is only some 16 or 17 mi. from my house. I have enjoyed their beers before, but only recently found out they are so close. They have a very unassuming tasting room (which is actually a small bar where locals gather. very friendly bunch). Their website reflects the appearance of their facility, oh, and the labels on their bottles. Important thing though: All of their beers are quite nice and tasty. Recently, I drove down to Portland and spent three days riding a bicycle around and checking out their local breweries/public houses. Ive got to mention the Lucky Laborador. I hit both their locations. Though they dont brew their own ales, there is an outdoor seating area where you can bring your dog and let them play. Its like a dog park with beer. Oh, and there is bicycle parking *inside* the place. Gotta love Portland. More recently, I have been exploring what Seattle has to offer. Brian On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tell me more! --R Zoltan Finks wrote: Its a good day. Calls for some brewery fresh ales from Hood Canal Brewery. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man that was simple! Rear Brakes 190D
Yeah, it sure does. I wish I had a tool outlet close by. I had to go to the local Ace and buy a socket for $5. Oh well, it was worth it in the end. Brian On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't it make you feel good? When the time comes you'll be pleased how easy rotors are too. For the record the 17mm wrench in the $10 box end wrench set from Harbor Freight works a treat on a 240D. I've had 3 of 4 calipers off so far. The ones on my car were TIGHT (well Loctite...) and I beat on the wrench with a 3# hammer without breaking it... I've still got the fronts on my 240D laughing at me. Their time will come soon though, I'm gonna call Rusty this week, with grease in hand I'll attack 'em next weekend. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:00:56 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Man that was simple! Rear Brakes 190D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am proud of my meager little car fixin self. Finally went to hardware store and bought the 17mm shallow socket so I could proceed to try to remove the calipers. The two bolts came off quite easily (the joy of a NO rust car!!). After stupidly trying to tap out the pins the wrong direction, all went completely smoothly. Couldnt be much simpler! Its a good day. Calls for some brewery fresh ales from Hood Canal Brewery. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IGNORE PREVIOUS EMAIL.......Delete Before reading!
Chuck, Please send the document to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to read it. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 4:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] IGNORE PREVIOUS EMAIL...Delete Before reading! EXCUSE me.. Just a fat finger action sent last post by me. Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 10/25/2008 5:55 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 10/25/2008 5:55 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Man that was simple! Rear Brakes 190D
It's clear the other side of the country from me, I'll just have to settle for the local (and semi-local) brews here in Charleston. Speakin a which, I just finished working on the truck's water pump and hoses, I think its time for a little reward --R Zoltan Finks wrote: Hood Canal Brewery is only some 16 or 17 mi. from my house. I have enjoyed their beers before, but only recently found out they are so close. They have a very unassuming tasting room (which is actually a small bar where locals gather. very friendly bunch). Their website reflects the appearance of their facility, oh, and the labels on their bottles. Important thing though: All of their beers are quite nice and tasty. Recently, I drove down to Portland and spent three days riding a bicycle around and checking out their local breweries/public houses. Ive got to mention the Lucky Laborador. I hit both their locations. Though they dont brew their own ales, there is an outdoor seating area where you can bring your dog and let them play. Its like a dog park with beer. Oh, and there is bicycle parking *inside* the place. Gotta love Portland. More recently, I have been exploring what Seattle has to offer. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sorta OT, disposal of anti-freeze
I am replacing the water pump on the truck, drained the Deathcool, caught most of it. We live on the marsh, have a septic system, I am thinking it probably wouldn't be a good idea to put it down the septic? I can take it into town and pour it in a toilet to the sewer, or to the auto parts store if they collect it. Any thoughts on best disposal method? GM decided to thread the fan/clutch assembly onto the water pump shaft, no apparent way to get it off when on the truck, jammed a screwdriver in the impellers once I removed the whole deal and the back of the water pump, beat on an adj wrench on the big nut, finally got it loose. There is a pulley on the shaft flange but the fan assy is not bolted to it like on the Benz. Score one for the Germans. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT -- this is way cool -- Art forms in nature
Check this out, you can download the book and some high-res scans of some pages. Very cool. http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/10/kunstformen_der_natur_by.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D diff update
Wrong end - more like a proctologist. Most proctologists don't make slurping noises as they go about their work... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT, disposal of anti-freeze
Call parts store, Autozone, etc.; best if they collect it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Sorta OT, disposal of anti-freeze I am replacing the water pump on the truck, drained the Deathcool, caught most of it. We live on the marsh, have a septic system, I am thinking it probably wouldn't be a good idea to put it down the septic? I can take it into town and pour it in a toilet to the sewer, or to the auto parts store if they collect it. Any thoughts on best disposal method? GM decided to thread the fan/clutch assembly onto the water pump shaft, no apparent way to get it off when on the truck, jammed a screwdriver in the impellers once I removed the whole deal and the back of the water pump, beat on an adj wrench on the big nut, finally got it loose. There is a pulley on the shaft flange but the fan assy is not bolted to it like on the Benz. Score one for the Germans. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT, disposal of anti-freeze
It's perfectly safe to pour anti-freeze down the drain - it will dilute microbes will break it down. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 5:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Sorta OT, disposal of anti-freeze I am replacing the water pump on the truck, drained the Deathcool, caught most of it. We live on the marsh, have a septic system, I am thinking it probably wouldn't be a good idea to put it down the septic? I can take it into town and pour it in a toilet to the sewer, or to the auto parts store if they collect it. Any thoughts on best disposal method? GM decided to thread the fan/clutch assembly onto the water pump shaft, no apparent way to get it off when on the truck, jammed a screwdriver in the impellers once I removed the whole deal and the back of the water pump, beat on an adj wrench on the big nut, finally got it loose. There is a pulley on the shaft flange but the fan assy is not bolted to it like on the Benz. Score one for the Germans. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 10/25/2008 5:55 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 10/25/2008 5:55 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Correct lube for plastic-to-plastic contact?
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leave all of the white greasy stuff where it's at and just replace the belt. OK, what if I want to add more white greasy stuff, because the unit makes creaky, unpleasant, frictional noises as it operates that it didn't when it was new? :) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay Europas
Ran across a advert in a old Christo for a radio like I sold on eBay - it was a Blaupunkt Bamburg not a Becker - Sorry about the misleading info = Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay Europas I sold a early 70s Becker to a collector in Germany who paid ~$75 for it. The radio worked (AM-FM-SW) but the cassette did not.work. I seem to recall it had the ability to record to cassettes also -... While the sellers may be dreaming, there are a few on Ebay that look a lot worse than mine for 275 to 400 bucks. I am still a little bit intimidated by Ebay but I guess if Kaleb can make millions with it, I should get off the dime. RLE ** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Correct lube for plastic-to-plastic contact?
LubriPlate is often used by repair shops, though I havnt' tried to source it in a long time. THe MB special grease for the sunroofs comes to mind as well - though I've not used it for anything else. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leave all of the white greasy stuff where it's at and just replace the belt. OK, what if I want to add more white greasy stuff, because the unit makes creaky, unpleasant, frictional noises as it operates that it didn't when it was new? :) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D diff update
I wouldn't know! Inserting a tube into the rear end did seem related however. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wrong end - more like a proctologist. Most proctologists don't make slurping noises as they go about their work... -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT, disposal of anti-freeze
Our local hazardous waste policy says you can pour it down the drain. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's perfectly safe to pour anti-freeze down the drain - it will dilute microbes will break it down. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Correct lube for plastic-to-plastic contact?
Might also want to try removing the grease with a toothpick, sometimes the grease itself degrades and gums up all-plastic gears. Plastic-to-plastic doesn't necessarily need extra lubrication, depending on what kind of plastics are involved, even though it can be beneficial for installation and the first few runs. Some sewing machine people - who have a similar problem - swear by Tri Flow grease, available at your local bicycle shop. The safety of using this is probably also related to the specific kinds of plastic involved, but by all accounts it is good stuff. -TC LubriPlate is often used by repair shops, though I havnt' tried to source it in a long time. THe MB special grease for the sunroofs comes to mind as well - though I've not used it for anything else. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leave all of the white greasy stuff where it's at and just replace the belt. OK, what if I want to add more white greasy stuff, because the unit makes creaky, unpleasant, frictional noises as it operates that it didn't when it was new? :) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 brochure Becker radio
I doubt the Becker could record but if you can confirm it, let me know as i have always wanted to be able to record off the air while driving. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Becker is worth $200 to somebody interested in a proper restoration. Gump has need, but not at that price. clay On Oct 25, 2008, at 8:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have volunteered to help sort out all of the car stuff owned by my long time friend Don (who died last year of metastasized prostate cancer (never went to the doctor)) as a favor to his widow and found in a box a nice 126 brochure that might be of some interest to a dedicated 126 driver. He may have brought this home from one of his UK trips. It is 8 1/2 X 11 with about 53 pages and depicts Euro or UK models (corduroy seats and Euro lights) but is in English. It covers 380SE SEL plus 500SE SEL. I would say the condition is excellent for something stored in a box for all these years. I have no idea of it's value so if there is any interest, email me offline with what you are willing to pay. Photos available if needed. I also have a 1968 Becker Europa MU AM/FM radio with installation kit removed from a Porsche 911 long ago. I know nothing about Beckers and particularly if this radio has any value at all. Opinions requested. RLE ** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame0001) ** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Never find out
Hey cut the political sh*t. It's against the rules. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 16, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Chuck Landenberger wrote: Here's an analysis of the last year of the Clinton administration taxes and the last year of the Bush taxes assuming Obama taxes will look like Clinton's last year's rates. It's projected at three income levels Draw your own conclusions! And please do so before you vote! -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Tax Analysis.doc Type: application/octet-stream Size: 59392 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ attachments/20081016/5bb2e89a/attachment.obj -- next part -- I got this back before the Conventions and maybe sent it to the List. If so, sorry, but maybe worth another look! Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 16, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Chuck Landenberger wrote: Maybe it's not defined on purpose and the milling throngs just get sucked in by no new taxes or maybe it's sharing the wealth. It'll be 'sharing the wealth', for 'Bama is more socialist than Gore or Hillary. The way I heard it (may need confirmation) is that Barry wants all the Bush tax cuts to expire, then he won't raise taxes beyond that level we paid under Clinton. That would mean losing the retirement saver's credit for low income households, the 100% deduction on health insurance for the self employed, the $1000 child tax credit, the additional child tax credit, the ?121 home sale profit exclusion, the 10% tax bracket, the reduced tax rates on capital gains and qualified dividends, ... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on? There is a serious vacuum leak somewhere, but the front door locks check out OK. I replaced the fuel door servo this summer. Could a breach in the trunk lock servo have the effect of preventing the vehicle from shutting off? The locks work intermittently (lock and unlock). Andrew SWMBO 1985 300CD, 215 k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 brochure Becker radio - car radio with record feature
I had one of those back in the mid 1970's,installed in a '73 Chevy Caprice. IIRC from so long ago it was a Sanyo, and I think they quit making that model after a couple of years. It allowed you to record off the air or you could use the handheld microphone. I was never happy with the off the air quality, but the handheld mic did ok. Unfortunately the Caprice was a hardtop you could get into with a coat hanger almost as rapidly as with the key, and it was liberated a couple of months after I put it in. I saw the guy in the parking lot and he was followed home so we had his address, description of the car and plate number, his hair hanging off the rear view mirror and the tools he used to get in [campus police scared him while in the act] and all the Indianapolis police would do was send me a theft report [taken over the phone] for an insurance claim. I'm still ticked about that one. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 8:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 brochure Becker radio I doubt the Becker could record but if you can confirm it, let me know as i have always wanted to be able to record off the air while driving. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Becker is worth $200 to somebody interested in a proper restoration. Gump has need, but not at that price. clay On Oct 25, 2008, at 8:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have volunteered to help sort out all of the car stuff owned by my long time friend Don (who died last year of metastasized prostate cancer (never went to the doctor)) as a favor to his widow and found in a box a nice 126 brochure that might be of some interest to a dedicated 126 driver. He may have brought this home from one of his UK trips. It is 8 1/2 X 11 with about 53 pages and depicts Euro or UK models (corduroy seats and Euro lights) but is in English. It covers 380SE SEL plus 500SE SEL. I would say the condition is excellent for something stored in a box for all these years. I have no idea of it's value so if there is any interest, email me offline with what you are willing to pay. Photos available if needed. I also have a 1968 Becker Europa MU AM/FM radio with installation kit removed from a Porsche 911 long ago. I know nothing about Beckers and particularly if this radio has any value at all. Opinions requested. RLE ** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics - check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame0001) ** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics - check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Tax credits for Diesels
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
Yes - not leaving enough vacuum to operate the fuel shutoff. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on... Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on? There is a serious vacuum leak somewhere, but the front door locks check out OK. I replaced the fuel door servo this summer. Could a breach in the trunk lock servo have the effect of preventing the vehicle from shutting off? The locks work intermittently (lock and unlock). Andrew SWMBO 1985 300CD, 215 k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
The vacuum line to my 240D's central locking system has a big ol' golf tee stuck in it, for that very reason. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:21 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on? There is a serious vacuum leak somewhere, but the front door locks check out OK. I replaced the fuel door servo this summer. Could a breach in the trunk lock servo have the effect of preventing the vehicle from shutting off? The locks work intermittently (lock and unlock). Andrew SWMBO 1985 300CD, 215 k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Woodworkers Take Note
As I get my woodworking shop back in shape, I came across a good deal on an Incra brand miter gauge and Incra jig on Amazon. If you go searching for the Incra brand miter gauge you'll find a blip down the page that says something about Special Offers and Promotions. If you use this to add the gauge to your shopping cart, you'll also get an Incra jig (an invaluable tool, I think) for free. Nothing substantial, considering they're only about $15-$20 new, but with the free shipping the whole thing is a good deal compared to what you would pay for them separately. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tax credits for Diesels
I questioned this report, based on the byline from Mumbai - but it seems to be accurate: (if it only applied to all our Diesels as well :-) http://www.kbb.com/KBB/green-cars/articles.aspx?BlogPostId=712r=24462669476751464 A trio of super-clean, 50-state BlueTEC Mercedes-Benz diesel vehicles has become the latest to qualify for federal alternative-powertrain tax credits from the IRS. The 2009 ML320 BlueTEC will be eligible for up to a $900 maximum credit while the R320 BlueTEC merits up to $1,550 and the GL320 BlueTEC tops out at $1,800. Although those breaks will only be available on the first 60,000 units, an M-B spokesperson confirmed that the planned U.S. volumes for the three will not exceed that number next year. Since none of the three are set to arrive at dealers until October, neither pricing nor formal EPA numbers have been released. However, Mercedes indicated that each will carry a price premium of roughly $1,500 over its gasoline-engine counterpart, have fuel economy figures that are 20-30 percent greater and a cruising range in excess of 600 miles. Unlike the E320 CDI sedan, which does not meet the California emissions requirements, these new 50-state M-B diesel SUVs are equipped with Mercedes' AdBlue system that injects a precisely measured quantity of aqueous urea solution from an on-board reservoir into the exhaust that reduces nitrogen oxides to nitrogen and oxygen in a special catalytic converter. The AdBlue tank only needs to be refilled every 10,000 miles, which is done as part of the vehicle's routine maintenance. Last month, Volkswagen formally announced that its new 2009 Jetta TDI and SportWagen TDI models also would be eligible for a $1,300 tax break under the same federal alternative-powertrain legislation. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.domain-b.com/automotive/2008/20080814_Mercedes-Benz.html -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Correct lube for plastic-to-plastic contact?
I would use some of the white sunroof lube from Rusty. It's a very high quality lube that will not collect dust. Exactly what you would need for mechanical parts in side electronic equipment. (the only reason I would use it, is because I have some just lying around :) ) Luther Alex Chamberlain wrote: Sort of OT question but maybe not, considering. I took apart my Yamaha component CD changer because it refused to open---just a whining noise when you hit the open/close button. It's the kind with a carousel that slides out on runners like a kitchen drawer. I thought a CD might be somehow jammed inside and keeping the drawer from sliding out, but instead found that a tiny drive belt, running on pulleys to connect a motor to the rack-and-pinion arrangement that moves the drawer, was overstretched and slipping. I'm ready to order a replacement ($1.98 plus $8 shipping!), but I figured as long as I have the unit open, I should lubricate the runners and the rack-and-pinion setup. So the question is what kind of lubricant to use for these parts? There's some kind of white greasy stuff on there already, but I supppose I should clean it off (I have some 100% isopropyl alcohol already to clean the laser lens) and start over. Generally the rule is that grease manufactured from a synthetic base stock is safe for plastics, right? Can I just use ordinary FLAPS white lithium grease? Is there something special about the stuff sold specifically for electronics applications that justifies the outrageous price for such a small quantity? (E.g., http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/20-1325) Any other advice on this job from the electronics and audio gurus on the list (Jim, Mitch, etc.)? Thanks! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tax credits for Diesels
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tax credits for Diesels I questioned this report, based on the byline from Mumbai - but it seems to be accurate: (if it only applied to all our Diesels as well :-) http://www.kbb.com/KBB/green-cars/articles.aspx?BlogPostId=712r=24462669476 751464 A trio of super-clean, 50-state BlueTEC Mercedes-Benz diesel vehicles has become the latest to qualify for federal alternative-powertrain tax credits from the IRS. The 2009 ML320 BlueTEC will be eligible for up to a $900 maximum credit while the R320 BlueTEC merits up to $1,550 and the GL320 BlueTEC tops out at $1,800. Although those breaks will only be available on the first 60,000 units, an M-B spokesperson confirmed that the planned U.S. volumes for the three will not exceed that number next year. Since none of the three are set to arrive at dealers until October, neither pricing nor formal EPA numbers have been released. However, Mercedes indicated that each will carry a price premium of roughly $1,500 over its gasoline-engine counterpart, have fuel economy figures that are 20-30 percent greater and a cruising range in excess of 600 miles. Unlike the E320 CDI sedan, which does not meet the California emissions requirements, these new 50-state M-B diesel SUVs are equipped with Mercedes' AdBlue system that injects a precisely measured quantity of aqueous urea solution from an on-board reservoir into the exhaust that reduces nitrogen oxides to nitrogen and oxygen in a special catalytic converter. The AdBlue tank only needs to be refilled every 10,000 miles, which is done as part of the vehicle's routine maintenance. Last month, Volkswagen formally announced that its new 2009 Jetta TDI and SportWagen TDI models also would be eligible for a $1,300 tax break under the same federal alternative-powertrain legislation. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.domain-b.com/automotive/2008/20080814_Mercedes-Benz.html -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] new perks at my job
We discovered yesterday that they have installed WiFi with unblocked access to the internet. Several of us working nights now are bringing our laptops. Online video...CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, etc! :) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on? Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood. That's the lock system. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new perks at my job
Luther And, of course, you (and the other employees who comprise we) are just watching on your break time, right? Would this be OK if you worked the day shift? Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 26, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Luther wrote: We discovered yesterday that they have installed WiFi with unblocked access to the internet. Several of us working nights now are bringing our laptops. Online video...CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, etc! :) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new perks at my job
Using your own laptop you should be fine. Out at the old nuke plant, there are 5 dudes in the process of being 86-ed due to bypassing firewalls on company computers, getting out on to the internet and visiting verboten sites (beer brewing, guns, You Tube, etc). The IT guys are very good at making their terminations stick. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] new perks at my job Luther And, of course, you (and the other employees who comprise we) are just watching on your break time, right? Would this be OK if you worked the day shift? Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 26, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Luther wrote: We discovered yesterday that they have installed WiFi with unblocked access to the internet. Several of us working nights now are bringing our laptops. Online video...CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, etc! :) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new perks at my job
On break time? No, I cannot lie. This would be during regular work hours. I'm in a position where management is happy to see me not working (sort of like the Maytag man). When I work, I naturally spend money, which cuts into our profit. Could I do this on day shift? Probably not, and that is because the day shift usually has a much higher call volume. Tonight happens to be one of those nights that is very slow. My last call was 25 minutes ago, and we might have periods up to 1 hour without calls. Our supervisor (who works 8a-5p) has no problem if all calls and messages are handled in a timely manner, and all paperwork is completed. Everything else (legal, of course) is fair game. Luther Chuck Landenberger wrote: Luther And, of course, you (and the other employees who comprise we) are just watching on your break time, right? Would this be OK if you worked the day shift? Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 26, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Luther wrote: We discovered yesterday that they have installed WiFi with unblocked access to the internet. Several of us working nights now are bringing our laptops. Online video...CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, etc! :) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new perks at my job
Luther, No allegations intended. Just glad to hear it's cool with your supervisor.. Take care, Chuck On Oct 26, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Luther wrote: On break time? No, I cannot lie. This would be during regular work hours. I'm in a position where management is happy to see me not working (sort of like the Maytag man). When I work, I naturally spend money, which cuts into our profit. Could I do this on day shift? Probably not, and that is because the day shift usually has a much higher call volume. Tonight happens to be one of those nights that is very slow. My last call was 25 minutes ago, and we might have periods up to 1 hour without calls. Our supervisor (who works 8a-5p) has no problem if all calls and messages are handled in a timely manner, and all paperwork is completed. Everything else (legal, of course) is fair game. Luther Chuck Landenberger wrote: Luther And, of course, you (and the other employees who comprise we) are just watching on your break time, right? Would this be OK if you worked the day shift? Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 26, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Luther wrote: We discovered yesterday that they have installed WiFi with unblocked access to the internet. Several of us working nights now are bringing our laptops. Online video...CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, etc! :) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new perks at my job
none taken, I'm ok with being lazy at work :D Luther Chuck Landenberger wrote: Luther, No allegations intended. Just glad to hear it's cool with your supervisor.. Take care, Chuck On Oct 26, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Luther wrote: On break time? No, I cannot lie. This would be during regular work hours. I'm in a position where management is happy to see me not working (sort of like the Maytag man). When I work, I naturally spend money, which cuts into our profit. Could I do this on day shift? Probably not, and that is because the day shift usually has a much higher call volume. Tonight happens to be one of those nights that is very slow. My last call was 25 minutes ago, and we might have periods up to 1 hour without calls. Our supervisor (who works 8a-5p) has no problem if all calls and messages are handled in a timely manner, and all paperwork is completed. Everything else (legal, of course) is fair game. Luther Chuck Landenberger wrote: Luther And, of course, you (and the other employees who comprise we) are just watching on your break time, right? Would this be OK if you worked the day shift? Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 26, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Luther wrote: We discovered yesterday that they have installed WiFi with unblocked access to the internet. Several of us working nights now are bringing our laptops. Online video...CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, etc! :) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
