Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Mitchell wrote:

> Have you enjoyed your free 30, I mean 90, I mean 360 day trial
> of Communism?
> 
> https://genesiustimes.com/poll-most-people-unimpressed-with-their-30-day-free-trial-of-communism/


The attached file, "free-trial.jpg" is not a jpeg, but a Web/P
file.  Odd that the extension is wrong.

Web/P is a format developed and pushed by Google.  Maybe the file
was hosted by google and they converted it?  But still with a .jpg
extension

It's a conspiracy!!  The communists and web admins are in cahoots
plotting to destroy the internet by distributing images with wrong
extensions!  The world as we know it will end   We will all
die!!!

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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

I have met the enemy and he is us. Pogo

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 11:52 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 1984.
>
> > Larry Turner via Mercedes 
> > May 26, 2020 at 10:29 PM
> > It has been very frustrating to watch the D's (mostly IMO) turn the
> > crisis into a political maneuver to improve their agenda, especially
> > when we see the things they choose as being essential Vs those they
> > deem non-essential.   For instance, abortion clinics are essential
> > while hip and knee replacements are non-essential. (that decision must
> > have been made by someone never needed a new knee or hip).
> > Liquor Stores were declared early on to be essential.  They used some
> > kind of Bizzaro logic to come up with the declarations they did.
> >
> > Now they want to postpone the full opening of some states until a
> > vaccine is discovered.  But there may never be a vaccine!  I know we
> > are capable of many things and a Vaccines would msolve any problems
> > but it's just not realistic
> >
> > it's a strange world we are living in...
> > LarryT
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Why does billg smile when he talks about people dying from WRD?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 26 May 2020 22:56:48 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Ho hum.  No one here cares about your drivel anymore.

THAT was a really snotty, obnoxious response.

Who are you to speak for all of the rest of us?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Photo management/sharing database-type software

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Allan wrote:

> Take all the boxes of photos, and throw them away.

And some future generation genealogist will curse you and hate you
for destroying forever a glimpse into the lives of their ancestors.

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Photo management/sharing database-type software

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> Floyd wrote:

> I have boxes and boxes of old family photos.  I bought a Brother
> ADS 2700W scanner I am going to use to scan these photos.  I
> need some sort of management app where I can put in a
> descriptor, names/places, years, etc. to set up some sort of
> searchable database of all these pics, then share the
> database/photos somehow/where for the extended family to access.

I would plead that you get a solution that will put the info into
the EXIF, IPTC, and or XMP.  These are "tags" that stick the
information into the same file as the image itself.  

An external database will allow searching the photo's data a lot
faster than having it dig through the tags in the images - but
using the tags is like writing on the back of the photo.  Unless
it is removed, that info is stuck with the photo even if you make
copies, share with others, etc.  20 years from now, so long as a
jpeg can still be opened, that info will still be with it.  Nearly
all photo tools today honor the tags, unlike even a few years ago.

You made no mention of the OS.  I have no suggestions for MSWin or
Mac.  Digikam has been the one I find I most recommend.  But even
with that one there is a menu setting for "store the info in the
image tags" and it is off by default.

Finally, if you use an on-line photo archive, be respectful of the
privacy of (especially still living) people.  Some/many/all of the
online methods will make use of facial recognition and other
processes that might be considered invasive by some people.  Once
the information is "out", there is no way to ever get it back "in".

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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

1984.


Larry Turner via Mercedes 
May 26, 2020 at 10:29 PM
It has been very frustrating to watch the D's (mostly IMO) turn the 
crisis into a political maneuver to improve their agenda, especially 
when we see the things they choose as being essential Vs those they 
deem non-essential.   For instance, abortion clinics are essential 
while hip and knee replacements are non-essential. (that decision must 
have been made by someone never needed a new knee or hip).
Liquor Stores were declared early on to be essential.  They used some 
kind of Bizzaro logic to come up with the declarations they did.


Now they want to postpone the full opening of some states until a 
vaccine is discovered.  But there may never be a vaccine!  I know we 
are capable of many things and a Vaccines would msolve any problems 
but it's just not realistic


it's a strange world we are living in...
LarryT



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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

It has been very frustrating to watch the D's (mostly IMO) turn the 
crisis into a political maneuver to improve their agenda, especially 
when we see the things they choose as being essential Vs those they deem 
non-essential.   For instance, abortion clinics are essential while hip 
and knee replacements are non-essential. (that decision must have been 
made by someone never needed a new knee or hip).
Liquor Stores were declared early on to be essential.  They used some 
kind of Bizzaro logic to come up with the declarations they did.


Now they want to postpone the full opening of some states until a 
vaccine is discovered.  But there may never be a vaccine!  I know we are 
capable of many things and a Vaccines would msolve any problems but it's 
just not realistic


it's a strange world we are living in...
LarryT

On 5/26/2020 12:51 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Scott wrote:
Collateral damage includes everything from suicide and drug use
to domestic violence, to delayed disease diagnosis, to delayed
medical procedures, to hospital near bankruptcy and unemployed
health professionals.  Then there are the economic impacts like
unpaid bills and social damage like lost education.

That doesn't even touch on the loss of liberty, intrusion on
freedom, and the "mommy state" telling us what we can and cannot
do.  "Wear your jacket!"  "Don't go outside until you put on your
Wellingtons!"  "I'm cold, you need to wear a jacket."

Freedom means the individual gets to choose what they think is
best - even if they are wrong.

If someone feels they are at risk, they can stay home.  Or wear a
mask.  Or keep 12 ft away.  But don't force me to hide under my
bed because you are afraid, and I won't force you to leave your
house and take off your breathing mask.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

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“I have been ever of the opinion that revolutions are not to be evaded”
-Benjamin Disraeli (1804-1881)

clay 

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> On May 26, 2020, at 9:05 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Relax folks, this is just a 90 day test run to prepare the mass population
> for Socialist rule, to get them adjusted to loss of individual liberty, and
> enforce the ideal that "only government knows what is best for them."
> 
> If we pass this test, we get Obama Repeat for President, and a "Fundamental
> Change" in government, as promised... or...
> Civil War Part 2.0

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1962 Mercedes 190C (what in the wide, wide world of sports...)

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Agreed!

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, May 26, 2020, 10:58 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> If the red leather interior is in good shape and salvageable that is worth
> something..
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:37 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Major POS. RUN AWAY
>>
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2020, 2:56 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > What in the Sam Hill is this?
>> >
>> > Bob R
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> > >
>> > > 1962 Mercedes 190C
>> > >
>> > > https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/7130630215.html
>> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Men comprise the majority of the 100,000 U.S. victims of COVID 19.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:44 PM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Abbott Labs test machines are turning out to be very unreliable, so the
> infection numbers are inaccurate.
>
> Then we have racial disparity related to infections and outcomes.
>
>
> https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/household-size-could-explain-king-countys-racial-disparity-in-coronavirus-cases/
>
> https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2766098
>
> Looks like you are poor, have too much family living in a small space, so
> you all get ill.
>
> But you will not be able to get medical attention because the hospital is
> tossing over 5500 employees out the door.
>
>
> https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/uw-medicine-announces-furloughs-4000-workers/XRY24ATJPFDBHAVOM5IF3JLZRM/
>
> And that makes womyn the victims, because they are losing their jobs and
> childcare.  Dames are in the lower income entertainment and hospitality
> jobs that are just GONE.  If your restaurant, bar, theatre, hospital,
> dental office, office of any kind is out of business or closed up until it
> is “safe”, you are looking for welfare.
>
> But that is ok, because “The State” will securely provide relief funds.
> Oh, wait, they hired morons.
>
> https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/05/u-s-secret-service-massive-fraud-against-state-unemployment-insurance-programs/comment-page-1/
>
> You will not be seeing any money to feed your multiple baby daddy spawn
>
> clay
>
> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>
>
>
> > On May 26, 2020, at 5:19 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Humans are curious, especially curious about human death.  Where someone
> > got infected and later that person died, the "where" "how" and "what"
> > killed them are what we want to know.  Many people die in the hospital,
> > knowing that doesn't scratch the itch.  Knowing where they were and how
> > they got infected, that is more important to me and I suspect most
> humans.
> >
> > Another interesting fact about this disease: many of the infections occur
> > in clusters in households where people are locked down / social
> > distancing.  I suspect stigma, fear of treatment and belief that there is
> > no treatment / no cure are keeping people at home too long, and then when
> > they go to the hospital or emergency room, if they are not "sick enough"
> > they get sent right back home with orders to self quarantine.  These
> > actions pretty much ensure that everyone or most of the people in that
> > house get infected.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1962 Mercedes 190C (what in the wide, wide world of sports...)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If the red leather interior is in good shape and salvageable that is worth
something..

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:37 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Major POS. RUN AWAY
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020, 2:56 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > What in the Sam Hill is this?
> >
> > Bob R
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > >
> > > 1962 Mercedes 190C
> > >
> > > https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/7130630215.html
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Why does billg smile when he talks about people dying from WRD?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ho hum.  No one here cares about your drivel anymore.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:05 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>   Bill Gates admits 700,000 people will be harmed or killed by his
>   COVID-19 “solution”
>
> by:Sara Middleton, staff writer
> |May 24, 2020
>
> (NaturalHealth365 ) It’s hard to imagine
> any billionaire being reckless with his money. Yet for some reason, Bill
> Gates says he’s willing to throw billions of dollars at corona (CV)
> vaccine research even though many people believe it will be a complete
> waste of time and effort.
>
> In a recent interview, Gates also let it slip that what CV vaccine
> researchers are pushing for is poised to harm hundreds of thousands of
> people – yet he still wants one available inless than a year and a half
> <
> https://www.gatesfoundation.org/TheOptimist/Articles/coronavirus-vaccine-development-gavi>.
>
> All in the name of protecting public health, right?
>
>
> ALL HANDS ON DECK: Bill Gates is pumping billions of dollars into
> vaccine research to “accelerate” drug development
>
> TheBill & Melinda Gates Foundation
> says they
> want there to be a CV vaccine available to the masses within 12 to 18
> months. Not suprisingly,Business Insider
> <
> https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-factories-7-different-vaccines-to-fight-coronavirus-2020-4>reports
>
> that Gates is funding the construction of at least seven different
> factories, each testing a different candidate for a novel CV vaccine.
>
> Yet only one or two of these potential vaccine candidates will be
> selected for further development, while the other candidates – and the
> factories making them – will be abandoned.*This means over 70 percent of
> his “investment” will be completely wasted*.
>
> Gates has said he’s willing to take the hit on this since it will
> accelerate vaccine development. All that hurry and waste just to get a
> vaccine out on the market ASAP?  Let’s stop for a moment to consider the
> skyrocketing unemployment rates and devastating insolvency that millions
> of people around the world are now facing because of state and federal
> responses to CV.
>
> If Gates wants to use his tremendous resources to support the public
> good, you’d think there he could find a more efficient and effective way
> to do so, rather than building useless infrastructure.
>
>
>   JAW-DROPPING: Gates acknowledges even flu shots aren’t effective
>   for older adults and issues an (almost) unbelievable warning
>
> Vaccines, of course, are not foolproof nor fully effective/even when
> provided a more appropriate amount of time for research and development./
>
> Gates admits as much in a recent interview with CNBC, where he bluntly
> states that even the seasonal “flu vaccine isn’t that effective” in
> older people – the/exact/population of people who are targeted for the
> vaccine itself.
>
> Gates also has some brazen things to say about the CV vaccine currently
> in the pipeline. View the video below to listen for yourself:
> https://www.naturalhealth365.com/bill-gates-vaccine-research-3413.html
>
> *We have to ask ourselves*:
>
> Why does Bill Gates always have a habit of smiling when he talks
> about people getting hurt?
>
> “We clearly need a vaccine that works in the upper age range because
> they’re most at risk,” Gates says. Because of this, he suggests the CV
> vaccine will need to be made more potent (“you have to amp it up”) in
> order to work for older people – as well as, we presume, all the younger
> healthy people who will be told to take it, too. And because of this
> increase in potency, Gates casually estimates that at least 700,000
> people will “suffer” from side effects of whatever vaccine gets created.
>
> We know the CV vaccine is going to be propagandized as a “necessary”
> step in protecting the community and especially its most vulnerable
> people. Yet from the mouth of one of the loudest, most influential, and
> wealthiest drug pushers out there, we’re now hearing confirmation that
> widespread health consequences are certain. All this for a drug that
> will be rapidly made and furiously pushed out onto the market.
>
> Tell us again the level of cognitive dissonance required to tout this
> “solution” as safe and effective.
>
> Sources for this article include:
>
> BusinessInsider.com
> <
> https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-factories-7-different-vaccines-to-fight-coronavirus-2020-4
> >
> Bigleaguepolitics.com
> <
> https://bigleaguepolitics.com/bill-gates-says-that-70-could-suffer-side-effects-from-his-vaccine/
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Clay via Mercedes]

Abbott Labs test machines are turning out to be very unreliable, so the 
infection numbers are inaccurate.  

Then we have racial disparity related to infections and outcomes.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/household-size-could-explain-king-countys-racial-disparity-in-coronavirus-cases/

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2766098

Looks like you are poor, have too much family living in a small space, so you 
all get ill.

But you will not be able to get medical attention because the hospital is 
tossing over 5500 employees out the door.

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/uw-medicine-announces-furloughs-4000-workers/XRY24ATJPFDBHAVOM5IF3JLZRM/

And that makes womyn the victims, because they are losing their jobs and 
childcare.  Dames are in the lower income entertainment and hospitality jobs 
that are just GONE.  If your restaurant, bar, theatre, hospital, dental office, 
office of any kind is out of business or closed up until it is “safe”, you are 
looking for welfare.

But that is ok, because “The State” will securely provide relief funds.  Oh, 
wait, they hired morons.
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/05/u-s-secret-service-massive-fraud-against-state-unemployment-insurance-programs/comment-page-1/

You will not be seeing any money to feed your multiple baby daddy spawn

clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On May 26, 2020, at 5:19 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Humans are curious, especially curious about human death.  Where someone
> got infected and later that person died, the "where" "how" and "what"
> killed them are what we want to know.  Many people die in the hospital,
> knowing that doesn't scratch the itch.  Knowing where they were and how
> they got infected, that is more important to me and I suspect most humans.
> 
> Another interesting fact about this disease: many of the infections occur
> in clusters in households where people are locked down / social
> distancing.  I suspect stigma, fear of treatment and belief that there is
> no treatment / no cure are keeping people at home too long, and then when
> they go to the hospital or emergency room, if they are not "sick enough"
> they get sent right back home with orders to self quarantine.  These
> actions pretty much ensure that everyone or most of the people in that
> house get infected.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1962 Mercedes 190C (what in the wide, wide world of sports...)

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Major POS. RUN AWAY

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, May 26, 2020, 2:56 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What in the Sam Hill is this?
>
> Bob R
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> >
> > 1962 Mercedes 190C
> >
> > https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/7130630215.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

[Clay via Mercedes]

“Everything belongs to the fatherland when the fatherland is in danger”
-George Jaques Danton (1759-1794)

“The worst thing in the world, next to anarchy, is government”
-Henry Ward Beecher (1813-1887)


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> On May 25, 2020, at 8:51 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Scott wrote:
> 
>> Collateral damage includes everything from suicide and drug use
>> to domestic violence, to delayed disease diagnosis, to delayed
>> medical procedures, to hospital near bankruptcy and unemployed
>> health professionals.  Then there are the economic impacts like
>> unpaid bills and social damage like lost education. 
> 
> That doesn't even touch on the loss of liberty, intrusion on
> freedom, and the "mommy state" telling us what we can and cannot
> do.  "Wear your jacket!"  "Don't go outside until you put on your
> Wellingtons!"  "I'm cold, you need to wear a jacket."
> 
> Freedom means the individual gets to choose what they think is
> best - even if they are wrong.
> 
> If someone feels they are at risk, they can stay home.  Or wear a
> mask.  Or keep 12 ft away.  But don't force me to hide under my
> bed because you are afraid, and I won't force you to leave your
> house and take off your breathing mask.
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[MBZ] Why does billg smile when he talks about people dying from WRD?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

 Bill Gates admits 700,000 people will be harmed or killed by his
 COVID-19 “solution”

by:Sara Middleton, staff writer 
|May 24, 2020


(NaturalHealth365 ) It’s hard to imagine 
any billionaire being reckless with his money. Yet for some reason, Bill 
Gates says he’s willing to throw billions of dollars at corona (CV) 
vaccine research even though many people believe it will be a complete 
waste of time and effort.


In a recent interview, Gates also let it slip that what CV vaccine 
researchers are pushing for is poised to harm hundreds of thousands of 
people – yet he still wants one available inless than a year and a half 
. 
All in the name of protecting public health, right?



   ALL HANDS ON DECK: Bill Gates is pumping billions of dollars into
   vaccine research to “accelerate” drug development

TheBill & Melinda Gates Foundation 
says they 
want there to be a CV vaccine available to the masses within 12 to 18 
months. Not suprisingly,Business Insider 
reports 
that Gates is funding the construction of at least seven different 
factories, each testing a different candidate for a novel CV vaccine.


Yet only one or two of these potential vaccine candidates will be 
selected for further development, while the other candidates – and the 
factories making them – will be abandoned.*This means over 70 percent of 
his “investment” will be completely wasted*.


Gates has said he’s willing to take the hit on this since it will 
accelerate vaccine development. All that hurry and waste just to get a 
vaccine out on the market ASAP?  Let’s stop for a moment to consider the 
skyrocketing unemployment rates and devastating insolvency that millions 
of people around the world are now facing because of state and federal 
responses to CV.


If Gates wants to use his tremendous resources to support the public 
good, you’d think there he could find a more efficient and effective way 
to do so, rather than building useless infrastructure.



 JAW-DROPPING: Gates acknowledges even flu shots aren’t effective
 for older adults and issues an (almost) unbelievable warning

Vaccines, of course, are not foolproof nor fully effective/even when 
provided a more appropriate amount of time for research and development./


Gates admits as much in a recent interview with CNBC, where he bluntly 
states that even the seasonal “flu vaccine isn’t that effective” in 
older people – the/exact/population of people who are targeted for the 
vaccine itself.


Gates also has some brazen things to say about the CV vaccine currently 
in the pipeline. View the video below to listen for yourself:

https://www.naturalhealth365.com/bill-gates-vaccine-research-3413.html

*We have to ask ourselves*:

Why does Bill Gates always have a habit of smiling when he talks 
about people getting hurt?


“We clearly need a vaccine that works in the upper age range because 
they’re most at risk,” Gates says. Because of this, he suggests the CV 
vaccine will need to be made more potent (“you have to amp it up”) in 
order to work for older people – as well as, we presume, all the younger 
healthy people who will be told to take it, too. And because of this 
increase in potency, Gates casually estimates that at least 700,000 
people will “suffer” from side effects of whatever vaccine gets created.


We know the CV vaccine is going to be propagandized as a “necessary” 
step in protecting the community and especially its most vulnerable 
people. Yet from the mouth of one of the loudest, most influential, and 
wealthiest drug pushers out there, we’re now hearing confirmation that 
widespread health consequences are certain. All this for a drug that 
will be rapidly made and furiously pushed out onto the market.


Tell us again the level of cognitive dissonance required to tout this 
“solution” as safe and effective.


Sources for this article include:

BusinessInsider.com 

Bigleaguepolitics.com 



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Re: [MBZ] Back from Maine

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Oh bring some fiddleheads to the Q.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, May 26, 2020, 5:21 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Tue, 26 May 2020 21:11:03 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Well we made our trip to Maine. The weather was outstanding, no rain
> > for 9 days. It must have rained right before we went though, there were
> > big water holes that dried up over the week.The beavers had been very
> > successful damming up the outlet of our pond, it was up around 2 feet.
> > I shot some video of taking the stuff off the outlet pipe, the drain
> > was pretty amazing, took off about an acre foot (around 325,851
> > gallons) in about 10 minutes.
>
> Wow! That's about 72 cfs.
>
> You will put the video on the web and post a link, won't you?
>
>
> > We could get all kinds of food and paper products unavailable at home.
>
> Interesting.
>
>
> > I think folks up there carry more stock on hand anyway, when its -40F
> > and there's 4 feet of snow you don't really get interested in the
> > grocery store.
>
> That is very understandable.
>
>
> > Thursday we rented kayaks ($70 for 2) and picked 25# of fiddleheads.
> > I'm currently waiting for the sun to go down so we can blanch and
> > freeze them.
>
> Remind us what those are, please.
>
>
> > We're planning to go back in early July, we'll see if anything has
> > changed by then.
>
> Do they get a lot of people coming up there for the Fourth of July?
>
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Re: [MBZ] 115

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Yeah, I can never get that right unless I’m looking at it…

Bugger.

-D

> On May 26, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> Zundfolge 
> 
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>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll bet it has the rare “Zündfloge” engine, too!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 26, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Driven one million miles? Really?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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 It’s the same color as my grandmothers old 240D which is what started it 
 all for me, which is currently sitting in the shop waiting for an engine 
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 Sent from my iPhone
 
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> 
> It has a California tittle, too!
> 
> Actually looks pretty nice.
> 
> -D
> 
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>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2981064995305384/
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Back from Maine

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

My daughter brought some ramps last week which were really good on pizza

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> On May 26, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
>On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 5:21:53 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> 
>>> Thursday we rented kayaks ($70 for 2) and picked 25# of fiddleheads.
>>> I'm currently waiting for the sun to go down so we can blanch and
>>> freeze them.
> 
>> Remind us what those are, please.
> Ostrich ferns as they first emerge but before they unfurl, see my 2012 video: 
> https://youtu.be/gmPCXx78q9w
> We didn't get any fully processed today but got the entire batch cleaned. I 
> have to teach tomorrow after lunch, probably we'll process after that.
> 
> 
>>> We're planning to go back in early July, we'll see if anything has
>>> changed by then.
> 
>> Do they get a lot of people coming up there for the Fourth of July?
> 
> A fair number, mostly returning folks like me. Northern Maine isn't much of a 
> tourist attraction except for hunters/fisherman and snowmobilers. I guess 
> some paddlers into the Allegash and some hikers on Mt. Katahdin.
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Re: [MBZ] 115

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Zundfolge 

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> On May 26, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> I’ll bet it has the rare “Zündfloge” engine, too!
> 
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>> On May 26, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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>> Driven one million miles? Really?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> all for me, which is currently sitting in the shop waiting for an engine 
>>> transplant. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On May 26, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 It has a California tittle, too!
 
 Actually looks pretty nice.
 
 -D
 
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Re: [MBZ] 115

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I’ll bet it has the rare “Zündfloge” engine, too!

-D

> On May 26, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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> 
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>> It’s the same color as my grandmothers old 240D which is what started it 
>> all for me, which is currently sitting in the shop waiting for an engine 
>> transplant. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 26, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It has a California tittle, too!
>>> 
>>> Actually looks pretty nice.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On May 26, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2981064995305384/
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Back from Maine

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On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 5:21:53 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 


>> Thursday we rented kayaks ($70 for 2) and picked 25# of fiddleheads.
>> I'm currently waiting for the sun to go down so we can blanch and
>> freeze them.

>Remind us what those are, please.
Ostrich ferns as they first emerge but before they unfurl, see my 2012 video: 
https://youtu.be/gmPCXx78q9w
We didn't get any fully processed today but got the entire batch cleaned. I 
have to teach tomorrow after lunch, probably we'll process after that.


>> We're planning to go back in early July, we'll see if anything has
>> changed by then.

>Do they get a lot of people coming up there for the Fourth of July?

A fair number, mostly returning folks like me. Northern Maine isn't much of a 
tourist attraction except for hunters/fisherman and snowmobilers. I guess some 
paddlers into the Allegash and some hikers on Mt. Katahdin.

>Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Back from Maine

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 Its an 24" pipe that goes down about 20 feet to an 20" pipe (might be 18 I 
forget) that travels 40 feet or so under the dam. The horizontal pipe "burped" 
regularly, lots of water being dragged down too...
-Curt

On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 5:39:09 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
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 On Tue, 26 May 2020 15:21:02 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
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> Wow! That's about 72 cfs.

For a better handle, that is 543 gallons / second.

Imagine ten 55 gallon drums being filled in 1 second ...


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Re: [MBZ] 115

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Driven one million miles? Really?

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> On May 26, 2020, at 7:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> It has a California tittle, too!
>> 
>> Actually looks pretty nice.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 115

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It’s the same color as my grandmothers old 240D which is what started it all 
for me, which is currently sitting in the shop waiting for an engine 
transplant. 

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Re: [MBZ] 115

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It has a California tittle, too!

Actually looks pretty nice.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] 115

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That's a $2,000 car all day long, assuming everything is working perfectly.

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Re: [MBZ] 1962 Mercedes 190C (what in the wide, wide world of sports...)

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Finny with Bunt wheels mentions stock hubcaps, but I don't see them in
pics, or stock steel wheels [stock was 13 inch, as I recall]...

Some assembly required, but has the makings of a numbers matched
fintail just add a few $$$ Thousand and cancel all your golf and tennis
for the next 4 years... Bobs yer unkle... [Not you Bob R... the other "Bob"]

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> Words escape me.
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Old Ford Trucks

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Check out:
https://www.oilburners.net

I've been a member there for over 10 years, since I have 5 Ford Diesel
trucks.
Poke around, there is an entire section that deals with Ford gas trucks
also... Chassis issues are the same, regardless of engine.. Diesel truck
has their own fuel issues,,.. Gas trucks have theirs. Different tanks and
pumps, etc... otherwise, running gear is the same.

Might help you locate maintenance items to look at, or look for.. Good
luck.. Pretty good bunch of folks there.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 8:02 AM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have a 97 F-250 HD Powerstroke Crew Cab 4WD. Can't really think of any
> particular problem.
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Knoble via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:50 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Rick Knoble
> Subject: [MBZ] OT: Old Ford Trucks
>
>
>
> I recently acquired a 1997 Ford F-250 HD 5.8 (351 Windsor) with automatic
> and dual tanks. Does anyone know of any trouble spots or chronic issues
> with these trucks?
>
>
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz 240D Engine Low Miles 1978 Diesel,$2,000

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I have one of those engines, complete with automatic transmission. Setting
in a shipping crate, removed from a wreck in Europe, has the instrument
cluster from the car that shows 107,000 miles.
Complete from fan to tail shaft. 240D.
Cash accepted without proper ID.. Say, $1,200 FOB Phoenix, Az. Shipping is
on your nickle.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 7:14 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Probably has a cracked head
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/174382560288855
>
> Mercedes Benz 240D Engine Low Miles 1978 Diesel
> $2,000
> Listed 6 weeks ago in Atlanta, GA
> 
>
>
>   Details
>   …
>
>   *
> Condition
> Used - Good
>
> COMPLETE Mercedes Benz 240D Diesel engine. This engine was rebuilt by
> Mercedes Benz in Germany. The engine has very low miles since the rebuild.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes]

On Tue, May 26, 2020 4:57 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> It seems to me that hospitals get money from the Federal Govt to pay for
> care for COVID patients while everything else has to go through insurance
> or the hospital has to eat it. That puts hospitals under immense pressure
> to designate as many deaths COVID related as they can. It would blow my
> mind if there wasn't at least some inflation of the number of deaths...

I'd bet our tax dollars are paying for the patient care, not the death
certificate, and the death certificate doesn't change the payment.

I'd also guess in most cases, the death certificate doesn't determine
whether it's statistically tabulated as a WhuFlu death.

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Re: [MBZ] Back from Maine

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 26 May 2020 15:21:02 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Wow! That's about 72 cfs.

For a better handle, that is 543 gallons / second.

Imagine ten 55 gallon drums being filled in 1 second ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Back from Maine

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 26 May 2020 21:11:03 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Well we made our trip to Maine. The weather was outstanding, no rain
> for 9 days. It must have rained right before we went though, there were
> big water holes that dried up over the week.The beavers had been very
> successful damming up the outlet of our pond, it was up around 2 feet.
> I shot some video of taking the stuff off the outlet pipe, the drain
> was pretty amazing, took off about an acre foot (around 325,851
> gallons) in about 10 minutes.

Wow! That's about 72 cfs.

You will put the video on the web and post a link, won't you?


> We could get all kinds of food and paper products unavailable at home.

Interesting.


> I think folks up there carry more stock on hand anyway, when its -40F
> and there's 4 feet of snow you don't really get interested in the
> grocery store.

That is very understandable.


> Thursday we rented kayaks ($70 for 2) and picked 25# of fiddleheads.
> I'm currently waiting for the sun to go down so we can blanch and
> freeze them.

Remind us what those are, please.


> We're planning to go back in early July, we'll see if anything has
> changed by then.

Do they get a lot of people coming up there for the Fourth of July?


Craig

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[MBZ] Back from Maine

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Well we made our trip to Maine. The weather was outstanding, no rain for 9 
days. It must have rained right before we went though, there were big water 
holes that dried up over the week.The beavers had been very successful damming 
up the outlet of our pond, it was up around 2 feet. I shot some video of taking 
the stuff off the outlet pipe, the drain was pretty amazing, took off about an 
acre foot (around 325,851 gallons) in about 10 minutes. The suction on the pipe 
was such that I had to give up pulling out sticks because I was afraid it would 
pull me down.
Sadly 2 of the beavers did not survive the adventure. Possibly more, we left 
yesterday but my parents are still there.
We found northern Maine to be almost completely unaffected by COVID. Arostook 
county is the largest in the state has at last check 8 confirmed cases. Masks 
were suggested everywhere but only about 50% of people were wearing them. We 
could get all kinds of food and paper products unavailable at home. I scored a 
12 pack of Quilted Northern TP, 25# of King Arthur flour and bread machine 
yeast. The flour was $18 compared to $1/lb we've been paying at the co-op. We 
found another place that had 50# for $23. I think folks up there carry more 
stock on hand anyway, when its -40F and there's 4 feet of snow you don't really 
get interested in the grocery store.
Thursday we rented kayaks ($70 for 2) and picked 25# of fiddleheads. I'm 
currently waiting for the sun to go down so we can blanch and freeze them. Its 
too hot here to work outside and I don't want that excess heat and humidity in 
the house.
We're planning to go back in early July, we'll see if anything has changed by 
then.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] What is the deal with light bulbs?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The LEDs last practically forever, I've had a CREE LED bulb controller die in 
as few as 5 years. That was a 20 dollar bulb when it was new.Probably has a 
warranty, not worth chasing it down.
I recently got a 60w equivalent Sylvania LED for $0.50 on close out at our 
local hardware store. Got 4x 100w equivalent for $2.99...
-Curt

On Saturday, May 23, 2020, 10:25:26 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I was at Lowes this evening because I wanted to purchase some motion 
sensing lights for beside the garage and porch light.  I also needed to 
get some bulbs.  It has been many years since we have used regular old 
fashioned bulbs that cost a buck for a 4 pack.  We usually get a big box 
of those CFL bulbs fairly cheap. Lowes only had a couple of choices of 
these and they were expensive.  It seems most of the bulbs now offered 
are LED.  They are not exactly cheap but were cheaper than the CFL bulbs 
they had.  I got the cheapest per bulb I could find and the highest I 
found were 60W equivalent.  I did find some 75W but they were much more 
expensive and only in a 2 or 4 pack IIRC.  So are guess LED is what 
everything is going to? How long are these things supposed to last?  I 
ended up spending way more than I wanted to between the fixtures and the 
various bulbs we needed for the house.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Karl, The fault was mine.  Not the first time I "talked past" readers by
assuming we were thinking about the same thing.  

The real heros of this period are front-line medical folks who risk
themselves and use best judgement to help patients.  I'm just an old
kibitzer who is trying to understand what is happening to the nation, and
why.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 4:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

Sorry I have no idea how those stats are compiled or tracked.

On Tue, May 26, 2020, 2:21 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Karl,
> No argument with any of your points.
> Here's my point:  If nursing home patients get transported to a 
> hospital before they expire does it reduce the number of nursing home
deaths?
> If sick prison inmates are transported to a hospital, where they die 
> in a day or two.  Do those count as prison deaths or hospital deaths?
> Maybe I'm too cynical but I can think of political motivations for 
> reducing nursing home and prison numbers and for increasing the 
> general population numbers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:40 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers
>
> What should it be recorded as? The person died in the hospital.
>
> There will always be data irregularities but the idea the hospitals 
> are somehow systematically having doctors enter fraudulent codes on 
> death certificates is pure BS. 1) it's a felony, with no benefit to a 
> doctor to do that, 2) we test everyone and we know whether they have 
> covid 19 or not, so there is no uncertainty 3) the people who die of 
> covid pneumonia in hospital have imaging ample imaging and other 
> studies to back up their diagnoses.
>
> The idea that hospitals can somehow control what I write in a death 
> certificate is laughable. I have zero incentive to lie about anything. 
> The hospital doesnt get paid any more or any less whether someone has 
> pneumonia from covid or another virus. All this stuff is politically 
> motivated trolls casting aspersions on electronic media. It would not 
> surprise me if these ideas originate outside the US in many cases.
>
> Covid deaths at the beginning were vastly undercounted - not over counted.
> A glance at the excess monthly mortality by year tells the story. 
> People were dying but we had no way to diagnose them because even 
> hospitals could not do tests.
>
> On Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yet another distortion of the numbers:  If a nursing home patient in 
> > NY gets COVID but is moved to a hospital before he/she dies it is 
> > not recorded as a nursing home death.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] When I bought this car I was told it was bulletproof but I’ve never tested it!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Are bullet holes more visible in dark of light painted metal? Hmm - might
require some experimenting!

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Does it make it more able to withstand bullets?
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/26/20 4:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > The dark blue paint makes it marketable.
> >
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:55 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> > It's back and it's crack
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/582944325667918
> >
> > 1995 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 420 Sedan 4D
> > $2,000
> > Vehicles
> > 
> > Listed 3 days ago in Charleston, SC
> > 
> >
> >
> >   About This Vehicle…
> >
> > Driven 137,250 miles
> > Automatic transmission
> > Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Tan
> > Fuel type: Gasoline
> > 14.0 MPG city · 19.0 MPG highway · 16.0 MPG combined
> > Fair condition
> > 
> >
> >
> >   Typical Features…
> >
> >   *
> > Leather
> >   *
> > Sun Roof (Sliding)
> >   *
> > Alloy Wheels
> >   *
> > ABS (4-Wheel)
> >   *
> >
> >
> >   Seller's description…
> >
> > When I bought this car I was told it was bulletproof but I’ve never
> > tested it! It has double insulated heavy glass. It There are
> > mechanical
> > issues (I was told it needs a new throttle body or throttle body
> > actuator) and it will need to be towed! Front seats have cracked
> > leather, back seats in good condition. This car is sold “As IS”.
> > Located
> > on James Island. If it’s still listed, it’s available.
> >
> >
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"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
Von Braun
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 It seems to me that hospitals get money from the Federal Govt to pay for care 
for COVID patients while everything else has to go through insurance or the 
hospital has to eat it. That puts hospitals under immense pressure to designate 
as many deaths COVID related as they can. It would blow my mind if there wasn't 
at least some inflation of the number of deaths...
-Curt

On Saturday, May 23, 2020, 10:35:19 AM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://disrn.com/news/washington-officials-admit-to-counting-gunshot-victims-as-covid-19-deaths

This is just one of several news stories.  In NY state, there are on-camera
explanations by coroners / morticians that they count every death as Wuhan
Red Death.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] When I bought this car I was told it was bulletproof but I’ve never tested it!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

No, but it will look good even if stuck to the driveway.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 4:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Does it make it more able to withstand bullets?
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/26/20 4:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > The dark blue paint makes it marketable.
> >
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:55 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> > It's back and it's crack
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/582944325667918
> >
> > 1995 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 420 Sedan 4D
> > $2,000
> > Vehicles
> > 
> > Listed 3 days ago in Charleston, SC
> > 
> >
> >
> >   About This Vehicle…
> >
> > Driven 137,250 miles
> > Automatic transmission
> > Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Tan
> > Fuel type: Gasoline
> > 14.0 MPG city · 19.0 MPG highway · 16.0 MPG combined
> > Fair condition
> > 
> >
> >
> >   Typical Features…
> >
> >   *
> > Leather
> >   *
> > Sun Roof (Sliding)
> >   *
> > Alloy Wheels
> >   *
> > ABS (4-Wheel)
> >   *
> >
> >
> >   Seller's description…
> >
> > When I bought this car I was told it was bulletproof but I’ve never
> > tested it! It has double insulated heavy glass. It There are
> > mechanical
> > issues (I was told it needs a new throttle body or throttle body
> > actuator) and it will need to be towed! Front seats have cracked
> > leather, back seats in good condition. This car is sold “As IS”.
> > Located
> > on James Island. If it’s still listed, it’s available.
> >
> >
> > --
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Re: [MBZ] When I bought this car I was told it was bulletproof but I’ve never tested it!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Does it make it more able to withstand bullets?

--FT

On 5/26/20 4:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

The dark blue paint makes it marketable.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:55 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


It's back and it's crack

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/582944325667918

1995 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 420 Sedan 4D
$2,000
Vehicles

Listed 3 days ago in Charleston, SC



  About This Vehicle…

Driven 137,250 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Gasoline
14.0 MPG city · 19.0 MPG highway · 16.0 MPG combined
Fair condition



  Typical Features…

  *
    Leather
  *
    Sun Roof (Sliding)
  *
    Alloy Wheels
  *
    ABS (4-Wheel)
  *


  Seller's description…

When I bought this car I was told it was bulletproof but I’ve never
tested it! It has double insulated heavy glass. It There are
mechanical
issues (I was told it needs a new throttle body or throttle body
actuator) and it will need to be towed! Front seats have cracked
leather, back seats in good condition. This car is sold “As IS”.
Located
on James Island. If it’s still listed, it’s available.


-- 
--FT


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[MBZ] Clear coat thinner?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I ordered a touch up paint kit that included a small bottle of clear coat.

The paint was fine but the clear coat was syrupy and impossible to apply
thinly.  Is there a solvent I can add that will thin it out somewhat?

1983 300TD
2014 GLK 250 bluetec
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Maybe not with precision but you get the picture:  100,000 give or take...

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 4:19 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I read an article earlier today that talked about the roles of who decides
> if a death is counted as COVID or not.  The Doctor signs the death
> certificate, and that is the official cause of death, and I'm sure Karl is
> right in that the vast majority are doing the right thing and making the
> best call they can.
>
> The disconnect happens when the county / state report up their numbers to
> the CDC, because they are under no obligation to use the cause of death
> listed on the certificate.  They follow the CDC guidelines, which don't
> even require a positive test for WRD (Wuhan Red Death) and so there is
> plenty of opportunity to steer the numbers.  FL is accused of
> under-reporting, and NY is accused of over-reporting.
>
> As usual, we've got the best government that money can buy, and as a result
> the "official" numbers are not really trusted by anybody, making a
> reasonable debate very difficult to have.
>
> That is all, carry on.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I read an article earlier today that talked about the roles of who decides
if a death is counted as COVID or not.  The Doctor signs the death
certificate, and that is the official cause of death, and I'm sure Karl is
right in that the vast majority are doing the right thing and making the
best call they can.

The disconnect happens when the county / state report up their numbers to
the CDC, because they are under no obligation to use the cause of death
listed on the certificate.  They follow the CDC guidelines, which don't
even require a positive test for WRD (Wuhan Red Death) and so there is
plenty of opportunity to steer the numbers.  FL is accused of
under-reporting, and NY is accused of over-reporting.

As usual, we've got the best government that money can buy, and as a result
the "official" numbers are not really trusted by anybody, making a
reasonable debate very difficult to have.

That is all, carry on.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] When I bought this car I was told it was bulletproof but I’ve never tested it!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The dark blue paint makes it marketable.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:55 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> It's back and it's crack
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/582944325667918
>
> 1995 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 420 Sedan 4D
> $2,000
> Vehicles 
> Listed 3 days ago in Charleston, SC
> 
>
>
>   About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 137,250 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Tan
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 14.0 MPG city · 19.0 MPG highway · 16.0 MPG combined
> Fair condition 
>
>
>   Typical Features…
>
>   *
> Leather
>   *
> Sun Roof (Sliding)
>   *
> Alloy Wheels
>   *
> ABS (4-Wheel)
>   *
>
>
>   Seller's description…
>
> When I bought this car I was told it was bulletproof but I’ve never
> tested it! It has double insulated heavy glass. It There are mechanical
> issues (I was told it needs a new throttle body or throttle body
> actuator) and it will need to be towed! Front seats have cracked
> leather, back seats in good condition. This car is sold “As IS”. Located
> on James Island. If it’s still listed, it’s available.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Very nice low miles E300

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

A lot of car for the money, transportation wise.

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/698093957625469
>
> 1999 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 300TD Sedan 4D
> $4,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed a week ago in Augusta, GA
> 
>
>
>   About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 118,127 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Grey
> Fuel type: Diesel
> 23.0 MPG city · 32.0 MPG highway · 26.0 MPG combined
> Good condition 
>
>
>   Typical Features…
>
>   *
> Alloy Wheels
>   *
> 6-Cyl, Turbo Diesel
>   *
> ABS (4-Wheel)
>   *
> AM/FM Stereo
>   *
>
>
>   Seller's description…
>
> Very well maintained 1999 Mercedes e300TD (turbo diesel). Belonged to
> one family from new and all maintenance was done at the Mercedes
> dealership here in Augusta and have all paperwork available. If
> interested please call or send us a message. [hidden information]
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Re: [MBZ] Nice E320 CDI

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I dont fully understand the issue but it may have to do also with the cams
and valve diameters.

On Tue, May 26, 2020, 6:52 AM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
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> Would you have the head ported if it were off the engine for other work?
> Mitch.
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020 12:21 pm, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> > They are getting pretty good at hacking the ecus for the 613 and 648
> > though. That is what all the Europeans are doing. Hard to make really big
> > power with it as the head does not flow as much air as the 606. So you
> > need more boost etc. But it has pretty good power at baseline. I have a
> > 648 in a 123 wagon but havent driven it much yet.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Sorry I have no idea how those stats are compiled or tracked.

On Tue, May 26, 2020, 2:21 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
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> Karl,
> No argument with any of your points.
> Here's my point:  If nursing home patients get transported to a hospital
> before they expire does it reduce the number of nursing home deaths?
> If sick prison inmates are transported to a hospital, where they die in a
> day or two.  Do those count as prison deaths or hospital deaths?
> Maybe I'm too cynical but I can think of political motivations for reducing
> nursing home and prison numbers and for increasing the general population
> numbers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:40 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers
>
> What should it be recorded as? The person died in the hospital.
>
> There will always be data irregularities but the idea the hospitals are
> somehow systematically having doctors enter fraudulent codes on death
> certificates is pure BS. 1) it's a felony, with no benefit to a doctor to
> do
> that, 2) we test everyone and we know whether they have covid 19 or not, so
> there is no uncertainty 3) the people who die of covid pneumonia in
> hospital
> have imaging ample imaging and other studies to back up their diagnoses.
>
> The idea that hospitals can somehow control what I write in a death
> certificate is laughable. I have zero incentive to lie about anything. The
> hospital doesnt get paid any more or any less whether someone has pneumonia
> from covid or another virus. All this stuff is politically motivated trolls
> casting aspersions on electronic media. It would not surprise me if these
> ideas originate outside the US in many cases.
>
> Covid deaths at the beginning were vastly undercounted - not over counted.
> A glance at the excess monthly mortality by year tells the story. People
> were dying but we had no way to diagnose them because even hospitals could
> not do tests.
>
> On Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yet another distortion of the numbers:  If a nursing home patient in
> > NY gets COVID but is moved to a hospital before he/she dies it is not
> > recorded as a nursing home death.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

How many scoops per load? And how much goes in the radiator?

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 9:52 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I buy generic “Kool-Aid” lemonade and use it to run cleaning cycles on the
> dishwasher and washing machine.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 25, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Running those Affresh packets through the machine periodically and
> leaving
> > the door ajar when not in use seem to fix the smell issue for us.
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 6:07 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> We struggled with this on a GE front loader bought in the early 2000s.
> >> Unfortunately, it was not one of the front loaders covered under the
> >> massive recall campaign that seemed to affect nearly every one that was
> >> built. I used to drain the sump almost weekly, but could never get it
> >> totally clean. Black slimy stuff built up in it, and no combination of
> >> bleach or other chemicals would clean it out completely.
> >>
> >> Replaced it with a top loader and will never go back.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On May 25, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes I have a 12 ish year old Maytag front loader and it does have
> mildew
> >> smell issues.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On May 24, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Took the back panel off and can see the motor but not the bearing.
> >> Turns
>  fairly easily by hand but something is scraping.
> 
>  The current base level LG front-loader (without WiFi and other useless
>  gizmos, and basically the current model repacement for what I have) is
>  on sale at Lowes right now so I might just do that and be done with
> it.
> 
>  Any issues with mildew in your Maytag? That was mentioned many times
> in
>  the reviews I've read. Never had an issue with mildew or odor in the
>  LG. Maybe because we use it almost daily.
> 
>  Someone (off-list) said I should look at Staber. They use industry
>  standard bearings and parts, designed and manufactured to be easy to
>  repair. But they are 3x the price of the LG and have an 8-week lead
> time
>  on orders.
> 
>  Allan
> 
> 
>  Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
> 
> > I just went thru this with our 15 year old Maytag front loader.
> >> Bearings were noisy for probably a year or 2 before I finally did the
> job
> >> but they never started smoking. Sounds like you might have more serious
> >> problems. In any case the machine had to be nearly completely
> disassembled
> >> but it was not too hard of a job. It’s nice and quiet now.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >>> On May 24, 2020, at 12:19 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Washing machine suddenly very noisy tonight. LG front-loader,
> >> probably
> >> close to 10 years old. Went to check on it and found the wash tub is
> >> full of smoke and smoke is pouring out of the detergent tray.
> >>
> >> So I'm guessing it's the main tub bearing, which repair clinic sells
> >> for
> >> $20 but says it is a "very difficult" repair due to the amount of
> >> disassembly required. From pictures, the bearing sits in a heavy
> >> plastic
> >> "rear drum" but from the smoke I'm guessing maybe it's melted. Will
> >> try
> >> to open it up tomorrow. The rear drum with bearing is NLA.
> >>
> >> Assuming it's not worth it or possible to repair, any
> recommendations
> >> on
> >> replacement?  I've found that GE is highly rated but my last GE
> >> appliance (refrigerator) was a disaster so I had been thinking I
> would
> >> never buy the brand again.
> >>
> >> Was pretty happy with this LG washer until now, I guess 10 years is
> a
> >> reasonable lifespan.
> >>
> >> Glanced at Miele and Bosch but they are very expensive and seem to
> be
> >> much lower capacity. 2.5 cu. ft. compared to 4.5 or 5 cu. ft. for
> LG,
> >> Samsung, or GE models.
> >>
> >> Allan
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 1962 Mercedes 190C (what in the wide, wide world of sports...)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Words escape me.

-D


> On May 26, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What in the Sam Hill is this?
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> 
>> 1962 Mercedes 190C
>> 
>> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/7130630215.html
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[MBZ] Fwd: 1962 Mercedes 190C (what in the wide, wide world of sports...)

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

What in the Sam Hill is this?

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] [END] OT: cure worse than disease

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

OK everyone, this thread has run to it’s conclusion due to the content going in 
directions it shouldn’t.

Let’s put a fork in it, please.

List Mom/little hitler



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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

[Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes]

Have you enjoyed your free 30, I mean 90, I mean 360 day trial of Communism?

https://genesiustimes.com/poll-most-people-unimpressed-with-their-30-day-free-trial-of-communism/

On Tue, May 26, 2020 1:05 pm, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> Relax folks, this is just a 90 day test run to prepare the mass
> population for Socialist rule,
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Photo management/sharing database-type software

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have cousins and their/my kids who have an interest in this stuff, and 
I guess I do to some extent, at least to look at them again and maybe 
share some memories of the people and places and things.  But yeah it is 
a big job, I know that.  I figure once I get the setup done I can scan a 
bunch of pics at once then go through and annotate them.  Maybe no one 
will care, I don't know, but putting them in electronic format will make 
them available to all if they have an interest.


The interface to this scanner is a total PITA though, it says it will 
duplex scan, and I have gone through the settings, but it is only 
getting one side of the pic, some have notes on the back. aaarhhh


-_FT

On 5/26/20 12:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Allan,

I totally understand your position. However, with the slides, which my Mom had 
been storing for literally decades in her outdoor shed, my siblings wanted to 
be able to have copies for their viewing pleasure and to pass to their 
children. Me? I don’t really care. Much the same as when we were kids and Dad 
would get the Carousel projector out for “slide night” and we would all run 
like rats from a sinking ship.

The photos were mostly of our kids growing up and the wife’s family. I want my 
kid’s pictures, the in laws, meh. I don’t know most of the people in them so 
they don’t hold any significance for me, but the wife wanted them. It was 
helpful having them when her father passed so we could make a slide show of him 
and a lot of his family for the memorial service.

I think my biggest peeve with this stuff is that no one is alive today that can 
identify a lot of the people in the images, making them even less valuable from 
a sentimental standpoint.

For what it’s worth, I vacuum sealed the slides in large “bricks” when I was 
done and put them in deep storage. I’ve got the electronic files and DVDs 
they’re burned to if I ever want to look at any of them. It was a massive 
undertaking, but it’s done and won’t have to be repeated. At this point I’ll 
leave it to my heirs to throw them away.

-D


On May 26, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

I'll give you another perspective.

Take all the boxes of photos, and throw them away.

Ask yourself honestly: how often do you look at this old stuff. Is it
*really* meaningful to you or are you just saving it out of some vague
guilty feeling that you should.

When my mom died, I moved dozens of boxes of photos from her house to
mine. Felt that it would be a shame to throw them away. The fact that
SHE had never gotten around to doing anything with them should have been
a clue.

A few years later, they were all still untouched in my basement. I
finally admitted to myself that I did not have enough interest in these
to be worth keeping them, and threw them all away. It was a relief that
I no longer had to see all those boxes and feel guilty about having done
nothing with them.

Allan



Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:


Let me give you some advice:

I had this situation in two forms, over 8,000 35mm slides, and close to 3,000 
photographs, about 6-8 years ago.

I bought a Nikon 35mm slide scanner and devoted nearly two whole weeks of time, 
non-stop, probably 6-8 hours a day, to d the slides. It was a flipping 
nightmare, made better (compared to scanning photos) by the fact that 
everything was a consistent size and the software I used to import handled the 
naming/exposure. It was still a nightmare.

When it was time to do the photos I sent them off to a lab that did it and paid 
a lump sump for all of them to be scanned, put on a CD and made available for 
download. It was worth every penny. I think it cost under $500, more like $350 
if I recall correctly.

That being said, I was once again faced with a huge pile of photographs for 
scanning from the mother in law about a year ago. I bought a purpose-built 
scanner with very good software from Epson. Epson FastFoto FF-640. It wasn’t 
cheap ($400) but it does a heck of a job and continues to provide excellent and 
fast scanning capabilities for photos and documents.

Your time has value.

-D



On May 26, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I have boxes and boxes of old family photos.  I bought a Brother ADS 2700W 
scanner I am going to use to scan these photos.  I need some sort of management 
app where I can put in a descriptor, names/places, years, etc. to set up some 
sort of searchable database of all these pics, then share the database/photos 
somehow/where for the extended family to access.

The device has some sort of associated app called PaperPort I downloaded and 
will be trying out, it looks kinda clunky on a quick look but maybe it will 
suffice to get them into a scanned file.  It doesn't seem to allow annotation 
of images (only PDFs) with other descriptors.

Google, Amazon, Picasa, Photobucket and others are online storage apps that I 
know a little about, Amazon just seems to be a place to store 

Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

Look at the numbers. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Relax folks, this is just a 90 day test run to prepare the mass population
for Socialist rule, to get them adjusted to loss of individual liberty, and
enforce the ideal that "only government knows what is best for them."

If we pass this test, we get Obama Repeat for President, and a "Fundamental
Change" in government, as promised... or...
Civil War Part 2.0

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:14 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
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> In the final analysis, the kinds of things fmiser mentioned are much more
> important than mine.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of fmiser via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 12:51 AM
>
>
> > Scott wrote:
>
> > Collateral damage includes everything from suicide and drug use to
> > domestic violence, to delayed disease diagnosis, to delayed medical
> > procedures, to hospital near bankruptcy and unemployed health
> > professionals.  Then there are the economic impacts like unpaid bills
> > and social damage like lost education.
>
> That doesn't even touch on the loss of liberty, intrusion on freedom, and
> the "mommy state" telling us what we can and cannot do.  "Wear your
> jacket!"
> "Don't go outside until you put on your Wellingtons!"  "I'm cold, you need
> to wear a jacket."
>
> Freedom means the individual gets to choose what they think is best - even
> if they are wrong.
>
> If someone feels they are at risk, they can stay home.  Or wear a mask.  Or
> keep 12 ft away.  But don't force me to hide under my bed because you are
> afraid, and I won't force you to leave your house and take off your
> breathing mask.
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Re: [MBZ] could be hauled to the crusher, the options are endless

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Title should read "Killed by electronic nannies 7 years ago."

"She's dead Jim"

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 7:02 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> or a meth lab
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/649358662574064
>
> Mercedes Benz C230
> $500
> Vehicles
> 
> ›
> Cars
> 
> Listed a day ago in Hickory, NC
> 
>
>
>   Details
>   …
>
>   *
> Condition
> Used - Fair
>   *
> Brand
> Mercedes
>
> 1998 Mercedes C230 either the switch or the ECM is the issue. Car has
> been sitting for around 7-8 years. Could be used for a parts car, could
> be hauled to the crusher, the options are endless. $500obo some trades
> considered but cash is always good.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Crack in radiator

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I only figured out the plastic epoxy after I needed to repair the battery
box in the airplane. It's a plastic box with a drain nipple for a rubber
hose that sticks out the bottom of the fuselage. we found the drain nipple
broken off the bottom of the box during that last annual inspection, and
some etching of the fuselage skin from the battery acid. My son cleaned up
and neutralized the acid (he does this for a living on KC-135's for the Air
Force), and I experimented with the plastic epoxies for find one that would
work for gluing a new nipple into the bottom of the box. The IA approved
the repair and signed the log book.
So far, it's looking good.
So, yes, I used it on the airplane!

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 11:36 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Don,
>
> With all the recommendations that you’ve made about various glues and
> epoxies for home repairs over the years, some I’ve tried quite
> successfully, I have to ask, somewhat tongue in cheek, if you use any of
> this stuff on your airplane?
>
> -D
>


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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Photo management/sharing database-type software

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Allan,

I totally understand your position. However, with the slides, which my Mom had 
been storing for literally decades in her outdoor shed, my siblings wanted to 
be able to have copies for their viewing pleasure and to pass to their 
children. Me? I don’t really care. Much the same as when we were kids and Dad 
would get the Carousel projector out for “slide night” and we would all run 
like rats from a sinking ship.

The photos were mostly of our kids growing up and the wife’s family. I want my 
kid’s pictures, the in laws, meh. I don’t know most of the people in them so 
they don’t hold any significance for me, but the wife wanted them. It was 
helpful having them when her father passed so we could make a slide show of him 
and a lot of his family for the memorial service.

I think my biggest peeve with this stuff is that no one is alive today that can 
identify a lot of the people in the images, making them even less valuable from 
a sentimental standpoint.

For what it’s worth, I vacuum sealed the slides in large “bricks” when I was 
done and put them in deep storage. I’ve got the electronic files and DVDs 
they’re burned to if I ever want to look at any of them. It was a massive 
undertaking, but it’s done and won’t have to be repeated. At this point I’ll 
leave it to my heirs to throw them away.

-D

> On May 26, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'll give you another perspective.
> 
> Take all the boxes of photos, and throw them away.
> 
> Ask yourself honestly: how often do you look at this old stuff. Is it
> *really* meaningful to you or are you just saving it out of some vague
> guilty feeling that you should.
> 
> When my mom died, I moved dozens of boxes of photos from her house to
> mine. Felt that it would be a shame to throw them away. The fact that
> SHE had never gotten around to doing anything with them should have been
> a clue.
> 
> A few years later, they were all still untouched in my basement. I
> finally admitted to myself that I did not have enough interest in these
> to be worth keeping them, and threw them all away. It was a relief that
> I no longer had to see all those boxes and feel guilty about having done
> nothing with them.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Let me give you some advice:
>> 
>> I had this situation in two forms, over 8,000 35mm slides, and close to 
>> 3,000 photographs, about 6-8 years ago.
>> 
>> I bought a Nikon 35mm slide scanner and devoted nearly two whole weeks of 
>> time, non-stop, probably 6-8 hours a day, to d the slides. It was a flipping 
>> nightmare, made better (compared to scanning photos) by the fact that 
>> everything was a consistent size and the software I used to import handled 
>> the naming/exposure. It was still a nightmare.
>> 
>> When it was time to do the photos I sent them off to a lab that did it and 
>> paid a lump sump for all of them to be scanned, put on a CD and made 
>> available for download. It was worth every penny. I think it cost under 
>> $500, more like $350 if I recall correctly.
>> 
>> That being said, I was once again faced with a huge pile of photographs for 
>> scanning from the mother in law about a year ago. I bought a purpose-built 
>> scanner with very good software from Epson. Epson FastFoto FF-640. It wasn’t 
>> cheap ($400) but it does a heck of a job and continues to provide excellent 
>> and fast scanning capabilities for photos and documents.
>> 
>> Your time has value.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 26, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have boxes and boxes of old family photos.  I bought a Brother ADS 2700W 
>>> scanner I am going to use to scan these photos.  I need some sort of 
>>> management app where I can put in a descriptor, names/places, years, etc. 
>>> to set up some sort of searchable database of all these pics, then share 
>>> the database/photos somehow/where for the extended family to access.
>>> 
>>> The device has some sort of associated app called PaperPort I downloaded 
>>> and will be trying out, it looks kinda clunky on a quick look but maybe it 
>>> will suffice to get them into a scanned file.  It doesn't seem to allow 
>>> annotation of images (only PDFs) with other descriptors.
>>> 
>>> Google, Amazon, Picasa, Photobucket and others are online storage apps that 
>>> I know a little about, Amazon just seems to be a place to store photos and 
>>> vids, but no details on how to set it up to do what I want to do.  Google 
>>> seems about the same.
>>> 
>>> Anyone ever done something like this?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Crack in radiator

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Don,

With all the recommendations that you’ve made about various glues and epoxies 
for home repairs over the years, some I’ve tried quite successfully, I have to 
ask, somewhat tongue in cheek, if you use any of this stuff on your airplane?

-D

> On May 26, 2020, at 11:54 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'd try this stuff after a through cleaning and scuffing all around the
> neck.
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ALBZK8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
> First a layer of  epoxy, then a layer of fiberglass cloth or something else
> strong wrapped around the neck, then another layer of the epoxy.
> 
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 8:51 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Plastic
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 25, 2020, at 11:42 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the neck made of? Plastic or metal? Probably doesn't matter
>> because
>>> you should replace it regardless, but ...
>>> 
 On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:06 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 I have noticed a small coolant leak coming from the LF area of the
 radiator and it appeared to be coming from the neck on my 98 E300. The
 other day I pulled upper radiator support to pull the aux fan to replace
 the belt and saw a very small hairline crack in the tank right on top.
 It probably happened way back when I hit that deer.  It seems like I
 recall some sort of JB weld like material you can use to patch these
 sorts of things?  Is that a reasonable idea or should I replace the
 radiator.  Normally I would just replace it but the crack is so small
 you can't really see it with the naked eye unless you see a slight
 amount of coolant seeping out.  Thoughts?
 
 
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>>> --
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>>> 
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>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Photo management/sharing database-type software

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Gotcha.  I was going to get my daughter busy on it since she has been 
camping here.  This scanner should do the job once I figure out how to 
get it going (the software is not entirely intuitive) and then I guess I 
will tag the pics after I run them through.  It supposedly does duplex 
scanning so it will get the backs of photos that have notes.


--FT

On 5/26/20 12:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Let me give you some advice:

I had this situation in two forms, over 8,000 35mm slides, and close to 3,000 
photographs, about 6-8 years ago.

I bought a Nikon 35mm slide scanner and devoted nearly two whole weeks of time, 
non-stop, probably 6-8 hours a day, to d the slides. It was a flipping 
nightmare, made better (compared to scanning photos) by the fact that 
everything was a consistent size and the software I used to import handled the 
naming/exposure. It was still a nightmare.

When it was time to do the photos I sent them off to a lab that did it and paid 
a lump sump for all of them to be scanned, put on a CD and made available for 
download. It was worth every penny. I think it cost under $500, more like $350 
if I recall correctly.

That being said, I was once again faced with a huge pile of photographs for 
scanning from the mother in law about a year ago. I bought a purpose-built 
scanner with very good software from Epson. Epson FastFoto FF-640. It wasn’t 
cheap ($400) but it does a heck of a job and continues to provide excellent and 
fast scanning capabilities for photos and documents.

Your time has value.

-D



On May 26, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I have boxes and boxes of old family photos.  I bought a Brother ADS 2700W 
scanner I am going to use to scan these photos.  I need some sort of management 
app where I can put in a descriptor, names/places, years, etc. to set up some 
sort of searchable database of all these pics, then share the database/photos 
somehow/where for the extended family to access.

The device has some sort of associated app called PaperPort I downloaded and 
will be trying out, it looks kinda clunky on a quick look but maybe it will 
suffice to get them into a scanned file.  It doesn't seem to allow annotation 
of images (only PDFs) with other descriptors.

Google, Amazon, Picasa, Photobucket and others are online storage apps that I 
know a little about, Amazon just seems to be a place to store photos and vids, 
but no details on how to set it up to do what I want to do.  Google seems about 
the same.

Anyone ever done something like this?

--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Photo management/sharing database-type software

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I'll give you another perspective.

Take all the boxes of photos, and throw them away.

Ask yourself honestly: how often do you look at this old stuff. Is it
*really* meaningful to you or are you just saving it out of some vague
guilty feeling that you should.

When my mom died, I moved dozens of boxes of photos from her house to
mine. Felt that it would be a shame to throw them away. The fact that
SHE had never gotten around to doing anything with them should have been
a clue.

A few years later, they were all still untouched in my basement. I
finally admitted to myself that I did not have enough interest in these
to be worth keeping them, and threw them all away. It was a relief that
I no longer had to see all those boxes and feel guilty about having done
nothing with them.

Allan



Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Let me give you some advice:
>
> I had this situation in two forms, over 8,000 35mm slides, and close to 3,000 
> photographs, about 6-8 years ago.
>
> I bought a Nikon 35mm slide scanner and devoted nearly two whole weeks of 
> time, non-stop, probably 6-8 hours a day, to d the slides. It was a flipping 
> nightmare, made better (compared to scanning photos) by the fact that 
> everything was a consistent size and the software I used to import handled 
> the naming/exposure. It was still a nightmare.
>
> When it was time to do the photos I sent them off to a lab that did it and 
> paid a lump sump for all of them to be scanned, put on a CD and made 
> available for download. It was worth every penny. I think it cost under $500, 
> more like $350 if I recall correctly.
>
> That being said, I was once again faced with a huge pile of photographs for 
> scanning from the mother in law about a year ago. I bought a purpose-built 
> scanner with very good software from Epson. Epson FastFoto FF-640. It wasn’t 
> cheap ($400) but it does a heck of a job and continues to provide excellent 
> and fast scanning capabilities for photos and documents.
>
> Your time has value.
>
> -D
>
>
>> On May 26, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have boxes and boxes of old family photos.  I bought a Brother ADS 2700W 
>> scanner I am going to use to scan these photos.  I need some sort of 
>> management app where I can put in a descriptor, names/places, years, etc. to 
>> set up some sort of searchable database of all these pics, then share the 
>> database/photos somehow/where for the extended family to access.
>> 
>> The device has some sort of associated app called PaperPort I downloaded and 
>> will be trying out, it looks kinda clunky on a quick look but maybe it will 
>> suffice to get them into a scanned file.  It doesn't seem to allow 
>> annotation of images (only PDFs) with other descriptors.
>> 
>> Google, Amazon, Picasa, Photobucket and others are online storage apps that 
>> I know a little about, Amazon just seems to be a place to store photos and 
>> vids, but no details on how to set it up to do what I want to do.  Google 
>> seems about the same.
>> 
>> Anyone ever done something like this?
>> 
>> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Photo management/sharing database-type software

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If you are going to tackle this yourself and are using a relatively new (less 
than 10 years old) Mac OS, “Photos” (no longer “iPhoto") will handle all of 
your tags and other goodies quite well. It will also do facial recognition for 
you, too, although it will take a little time to train it.

-D

> On May 26, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  Yes it looks like that has the ability to add tags and descriptors.  
> I guess I need to see if those will go along if I put the pics in shareable 
> albums like on Google Photos
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 5/26/20 12:05 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>>> I have boxes and boxes of old family photos.  I bought a Brother ADS 2700W 
>>> scanner I am going to use to scan these photos.  I need some sort of 
>>> management app where I can put in a descriptor, names/places, years, etc. 
>>> to set up some sort of searchable database of all these pics, then share 
>>> the database/photos somehow/where for the extended family to access.
>> Sounds like iPhoto.  Why don't you just use that?
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Photo management/sharing database-type software

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Thanks.  Yes it looks like that has the ability to add tags and 
descriptors.  I guess I need to see if those will go along if I put the 
pics in shareable albums like on Google Photos


--FT

On 5/26/20 12:05 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

I have boxes and boxes of old family photos.  I bought a Brother ADS 2700W 
scanner I am going to use to scan these photos.  I need some sort of management 
app where I can put in a descriptor, names/places, years, etc. to set up some 
sort of searchable database of all these pics, then share the database/photos 
somehow/where for the extended family to access.

Sounds like iPhoto.  Why don't you just use that?

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Photo management/sharing database-type software

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Let me give you some advice:

I had this situation in two forms, over 8,000 35mm slides, and close to 3,000 
photographs, about 6-8 years ago.

I bought a Nikon 35mm slide scanner and devoted nearly two whole weeks of time, 
non-stop, probably 6-8 hours a day, to d the slides. It was a flipping 
nightmare, made better (compared to scanning photos) by the fact that 
everything was a consistent size and the software I used to import handled the 
naming/exposure. It was still a nightmare.

When it was time to do the photos I sent them off to a lab that did it and paid 
a lump sump for all of them to be scanned, put on a CD and made available for 
download. It was worth every penny. I think it cost under $500, more like $350 
if I recall correctly.

That being said, I was once again faced with a huge pile of photographs for 
scanning from the mother in law about a year ago. I bought a purpose-built 
scanner with very good software from Epson. Epson FastFoto FF-640. It wasn’t 
cheap ($400) but it does a heck of a job and continues to provide excellent and 
fast scanning capabilities for photos and documents.

Your time has value.

-D


> On May 26, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have boxes and boxes of old family photos.  I bought a Brother ADS 2700W 
> scanner I am going to use to scan these photos.  I need some sort of 
> management app where I can put in a descriptor, names/places, years, etc. to 
> set up some sort of searchable database of all these pics, then share the 
> database/photos somehow/where for the extended family to access.
> 
> The device has some sort of associated app called PaperPort I downloaded and 
> will be trying out, it looks kinda clunky on a quick look but maybe it will 
> suffice to get them into a scanned file.  It doesn't seem to allow annotation 
> of images (only PDFs) with other descriptors.
> 
> Google, Amazon, Picasa, Photobucket and others are online storage apps that I 
> know a little about, Amazon just seems to be a place to store photos and 
> vids, but no details on how to set it up to do what I want to do.  Google 
> seems about the same.
> 
> Anyone ever done something like this?
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Photo management/sharing database-type software

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I have boxes and boxes of old family photos.  I bought a Brother ADS 2700W 
> scanner I am going to use to scan these photos.  I need some sort of 
> management app where I can put in a descriptor, names/places, years, etc. to 
> set up some sort of searchable database of all these pics, then share the 
> database/photos somehow/where for the extended family to access.

Sounds like iPhoto.  Why don't you just use that?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] GLK 250 Blutec fuel gauge issue

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Gotta be ready to pull the trigger at any time, buddy. That’s the key to 
success.

-D

> On May 26, 2020, at 9:58 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I should have bought that car. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 26, 2020, at 3:12 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Last fill of the tank for my '95 E300 returned 31 mpg, all in town driving.
>> (Thanks Dan!)
>> 
>> Low traffic volume means that nearly every intersection is a green light, 
>> and the speed limit is 45 mph, so about optimum conditions for high mpg.
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> May 24, 2020 11:50:27 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> :
>> 
>>> I've driven over 320 miles in my "new" 2014 GLK 250 with another +- 250 
>>> 
>>> miles left in the range (19 gallon tank, av. 30 mpg).  Yet the fuel gauge 
>>> 
>>> shows I am only down 1/3 of a tank.  Anyone else come across this glitch? 
>>> 
>>> I should be below 1/2 by now.  The needle is not jumping around.  Fuel 
>>> 
>>> sender?? 
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Re: [MBZ] Crack in radiator

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I'd try this stuff after a through cleaning and scuffing all around the
neck.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ALBZK8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
First a layer of  epoxy, then a layer of fiberglass cloth or something else
strong wrapped around the neck, then another layer of the epoxy.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 8:51 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Plastic
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 25, 2020, at 11:42 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > What is the neck made of? Plastic or metal? Probably doesn't matter
> because
> > you should replace it regardless, but ...
> >
> >> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:06 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have noticed a small coolant leak coming from the LF area of the
> >> radiator and it appeared to be coming from the neck on my 98 E300. The
> >> other day I pulled upper radiator support to pull the aux fan to replace
> >> the belt and saw a very small hairline crack in the tank right on top.
> >> It probably happened way back when I hit that deer.  It seems like I
> >> recall some sort of JB weld like material you can use to patch these
> >> sorts of things?  Is that a reasonable idea or should I replace the
> >> radiator.  Normally I would just replace it but the crack is so small
> >> you can't really see it with the naked eye unless you see a slight
> >> amount of coolant seeping out.  Thoughts?
> >>
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> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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[MBZ] Way OT: Photo management/sharing database-type software

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have boxes and boxes of old family photos.  I bought a Brother ADS 
2700W scanner I am going to use to scan these photos.  I need some sort 
of management app where I can put in a descriptor, names/places, years, 
etc. to set up some sort of searchable database of all these pics, then 
share the database/photos somehow/where for the extended family to access.


The device has some sort of associated app called PaperPort I downloaded 
and will be trying out, it looks kinda clunky on a quick look but maybe 
it will suffice to get them into a scanned file.  It doesn't seem to 
allow annotation of images (only PDFs) with other descriptors.


Google, Amazon, Picasa, Photobucket and others are online storage apps 
that I know a little about, Amazon just seems to be a place to store 
photos and vids, but no details on how to set it up to do what I want to 
do.  Google seems about the same.


Anyone ever done something like this?

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Old Ford Trucks

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have a 97 F-250 HD Powerstroke Crew Cab 4WD. Can't really think of any 
particular problem. 

 

Greg

 

From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble 
via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:50 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Rick Knoble
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Old Ford Trucks

 

I recently acquired a 1997 Ford F-250 HD 5.8 (351 Windsor) with automatic and 
dual tanks. Does anyone know of any trouble spots or chronic issues with these 
trucks? 



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[MBZ] CL Benz Photog of the year

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[MBZ] Mercedes Benz 240D Engine Low Miles 1978 Diesel,$2,000

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Probably has a cracked head

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COMPLETE Mercedes Benz 240D Diesel engine. This engine was rebuilt by 
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[MBZ] that'll buff out

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could be fun to transplant the bits into some old Benz and build a fast 
rat rod


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[MBZ] Both were running when parked in 2010

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[MBZ] could be hauled to the crusher, the options are endless

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or a meth lab

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

We leave ours open. Of course those doing laundry around here have a bad habit 
of doing a load, then forgetting about it and coming back the next day to dry 
it and by that time the cloths have to be washed again because they stink. 

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> On May 26, 2020, at 3:21 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Those of you with front loader mildew: do you keep the door closed when the 
> washer is not in use?  We always leave our washer door open, no mildew, 20 
> years of use.
> 
> May 25, 2020 8:42:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
> :
> 
>>  Yes I have a 12 ish year old Maytag front loader and it does have 
>> mildew smell issues.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I can tell you that if an inmate has left the jail on the way to the hospital 
it does not count as a jail death.

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>  wrote:
> 
> Karl, 
> No argument with any of your points.  
> Here's my point:  If nursing home patients get transported to a hospital
> before they expire does it reduce the number of nursing home deaths?
> If sick prison inmates are transported to a hospital, where they die in a
> day or two.  Do those count as prison deaths or hospital deaths? 
> Maybe I'm too cynical but I can think of political motivations for reducing
> nursing home and prison numbers and for increasing the general population
> numbers.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:40 PM
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> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers
> 
> What should it be recorded as? The person died in the hospital.
> 
> There will always be data irregularities but the idea the hospitals are
> somehow systematically having doctors enter fraudulent codes on death
> certificates is pure BS. 1) it's a felony, with no benefit to a doctor to do
> that, 2) we test everyone and we know whether they have covid 19 or not, so
> there is no uncertainty 3) the people who die of covid pneumonia in hospital
> have imaging ample imaging and other studies to back up their diagnoses.
> 
> The idea that hospitals can somehow control what I write in a death
> certificate is laughable. I have zero incentive to lie about anything. The
> hospital doesnt get paid any more or any less whether someone has pneumonia
> from covid or another virus. All this stuff is politically motivated trolls
> casting aspersions on electronic media. It would not surprise me if these
> ideas originate outside the US in many cases.
> 
> Covid deaths at the beginning were vastly undercounted - not over counted.
> A glance at the excess monthly mortality by year tells the story. People
> were dying but we had no way to diagnose them because even hospitals could
> not do tests.
> 
>> On Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yet another distortion of the numbers:  If a nursing home patient in 
>> NY gets COVID but is moved to a hospital before he/she dies it is not 
>> recorded as a nursing home death.
>> 
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[MBZ] It will start by squirting carb cleaner or starting fluid in it, but don't stay running, tired of fooling with it

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The rare tutone paint package

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1997 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
$600
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Driven 130,000 miles
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this was an excellent running & driving car, good heat and A/C around 
130,000 miles, parked it one day, then it wouldn't start the next day. 
It will start by squirting carb cleaner or starting fluid in it, but 
don't stay running, tired of fooling with it. Clear NC. title. $600 or 
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Re: [MBZ] GLK 250 Blutec fuel gauge issue

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I should have bought that car. 

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> Last fill of the tank for my '95 E300 returned 31 mpg, all in town driving.
> (Thanks Dan!)
> 
> Low traffic volume means that nearly every intersection is a green light, and 
> the speed limit is 45 mph, so about optimum conditions for high mpg.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> May 24, 2020 11:50:27 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> :
> 
>>  I've driven over 320 miles in my "new" 2014 GLK 250 with another +- 250 
>> 
>> miles left in the range (19 gallon tank, av. 30 mpg).  Yet the fuel gauge 
>> 
>> shows I am only down 1/3 of a tank.  Anyone else come across this glitch? 
>> 
>> I should be below 1/2 by now.  The needle is not jumping around.  Fuel 
>> 
>> sender?? 
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[MBZ] only needs a thermostat so temperature hands moves occasionally

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The dents enhance the value

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Great running car only needs a thermostat so temperature hands moves 
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[MBZ] When I bought this car I was told it was bulletproof but I’ve never tested it!

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It's back and it's crack

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1995 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 420 Sedan 4D
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Fuel type: Gasoline
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Fair condition 


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When I bought this car I was told it was bulletproof but I’ve never 
tested it! It has double insulated heavy glass. It There are mechanical 
issues (I was told it needs a new throttle body or throttle body 
actuator) and it will need to be towed! Front seats have cracked 
leather, back seats in good condition. This car is sold “As IS”. Located 
on James Island. If it’s still listed, it’s available.



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Re: [MBZ] Crack in radiator

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Plastic welder?
Mitch.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 9:39 am, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> That’s what my leaning was also, just wanted to hear if there was some
> miracle product that would patch it that I was not aware of.


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Re: [MBZ] Nice E320 CDI

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Would you have the head ported if it were off the engine for other work?
Mitch.

On Mon, May 25, 2020 12:21 pm, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> They are getting pretty good at hacking the ecus for the 613 and 648
> though. That is what all the Europeans are doing. Hard to make really big
> power with it as the head does not flow as much air as the 606. So you
> need more boost etc. But it has pretty good power at baseline. I have a
> 648 in a 123 wagon but havent driven it much yet.


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Re: [MBZ] Crack in radiator

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Plastic

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> On May 25, 2020, at 11:42 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What is the neck made of? Plastic or metal? Probably doesn't matter because
> you should replace it regardless, but ...
> 
>> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:06 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have noticed a small coolant leak coming from the LF area of the
>> radiator and it appeared to be coming from the neck on my 98 E300. The
>> other day I pulled upper radiator support to pull the aux fan to replace
>> the belt and saw a very small hairline crack in the tank right on top.
>> It probably happened way back when I hit that deer.  It seems like I
>> recall some sort of JB weld like material you can use to patch these
>> sorts of things?  Is that a reasonable idea or should I replace the
>> radiator.  Normally I would just replace it but the crack is so small
>> you can't really see it with the naked eye unless you see a slight
>> amount of coolant seeping out.  Thoughts?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Crack in radiator

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That’s what my leaning was also, just wanted to hear if there was some miracle 
product that would patch it that I was not aware of. 

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> On May 25, 2020, at 11:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Replace it..
> It will not heal, it will only get worse and fail when you least expect it
> to... like when the temp is up and you are running AC in slow traffic...
> the crack will expand as pressure goes up, then full failure of the tank.
> My money goes to "replace with new".
> 
>> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:06 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have noticed a small coolant leak coming from the LF area of the
>> radiator and it appeared to be coming from the neck on my 98 E300. The
>> other day I pulled upper radiator support to pull the aux fan to replace
>> the belt and saw a very small hairline crack in the tank right on top.
>> It probably happened way back when I hit that deer.  It seems like I
>> recall some sort of JB weld like material you can use to patch these
>> sorts of things?  Is that a reasonable idea or should I replace the
>> radiator.  Normally I would just replace it but the crack is so small
>> you can't really see it with the naked eye unless you see a slight
>> amount of coolant seeping out.  Thoughts?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Crack in radiator

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X2.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:14 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Replace it..
> It will not heal, it will only get worse and fail when you least expect it
> to... like when the temp is up and you are running AC in slow traffic...
> the crack will expand as pressure goes up, then full failure of the tank.
> My money goes to "replace with new".
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:06 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I have noticed a small coolant leak coming from the LF area of the
> > radiator and it appeared to be coming from the neck on my 98 E300. The
> > other day I pulled upper radiator support to pull the aux fan to replace
> > the belt and saw a very small hairline crack in the tank right on top.
> > It probably happened way back when I hit that deer.  It seems like I
> > recall some sort of JB weld like material you can use to patch these
> > sorts of things?  Is that a reasonable idea or should I replace the
> > radiator.  Normally I would just replace it but the crack is so small
> > you can't really see it with the naked eye unless you see a slight
> > amount of coolant seeping out.  Thoughts?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Humans are curious, especially curious about human death.  Where someone
got infected and later that person died, the "where" "how" and "what"
killed them are what we want to know.  Many people die in the hospital,
knowing that doesn't scratch the itch.  Knowing where they were and how
they got infected, that is more important to me and I suspect most humans.

Another interesting fact about this disease: many of the infections occur
in clusters in households where people are locked down / social
distancing.  I suspect stigma, fear of treatment and belief that there is
no treatment / no cure are keeping people at home too long, and then when
they go to the hospital or emergency room, if they are not "sick enough"
they get sent right back home with orders to self quarantine.  These
actions pretty much ensure that everyone or most of the people in that
house get infected.

-
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Charleston SC


On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 5:21 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Karl,
> No argument with any of your points.
> Here's my point:  If nursing home patients get transported to a hospital
> before they expire does it reduce the number of nursing home deaths?
> If sick prison inmates are transported to a hospital, where they die in a
> day or two.  Do those count as prison deaths or hospital deaths?
> Maybe I'm too cynical but I can think of political motivations for reducing
> nursing home and prison numbers and for increasing the general population
> numbers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:40 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers
>
> What should it be recorded as? The person died in the hospital.
>
> There will always be data irregularities but the idea the hospitals are
> somehow systematically having doctors enter fraudulent codes on death
> certificates is pure BS. 1) it's a felony, with no benefit to a doctor to
> do
> that, 2) we test everyone and we know whether they have covid 19 or not, so
> there is no uncertainty 3) the people who die of covid pneumonia in
> hospital
> have imaging ample imaging and other studies to back up their diagnoses.
>
> The idea that hospitals can somehow control what I write in a death
> certificate is laughable. I have zero incentive to lie about anything. The
> hospital doesnt get paid any more or any less whether someone has pneumonia
> from covid or another virus. All this stuff is politically motivated trolls
> casting aspersions on electronic media. It would not surprise me if these
> ideas originate outside the US in many cases.
>
> Covid deaths at the beginning were vastly undercounted - not over counted.
> A glance at the excess monthly mortality by year tells the story. People
> were dying but we had no way to diagnose them because even hospitals could
> not do tests.
>
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> > Yet another distortion of the numbers:  If a nursing home patient in
> > NY gets COVID but is moved to a hospital before he/she dies it is not
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Old Ford Trucks

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes i knew a guy who said a truck  is something you borrow but not buy. I
had a 67 Ford 3/4 ton with 350 Cleveland

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, May 26, 2020, 8:04 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
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> > 1997 Ford F-250... Does anyone know of any trouble spots or chronic
> issues with these trucks?
>
> Your truck-less friends will start calling you a lot more?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Leave the door ajar, and wipe out the little puddle on the seal.

I also use a half scoop of plain unscented OxyClean per load unless I'm using 
bleach.  No mildew, clean clothes.
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Re: [MBZ] Crack in radiator

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Replace with new.  Upper radiator hose blowing off on the highway is expensive. 
 Cost my sister a new head on her Volvo 940 wagon.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Old Ford Trucks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> 1997 Ford F-250... Does anyone know of any trouble spots or chronic issues 
> with these trucks?

Your truck-less friends will start calling you a lot more?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

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> We always leave our washer door open, no mildew, 20 years of use.

Top loaders, too.  It's not in the way of anything, another advantage IMHO.

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Re: [MBZ] Crack in radiator

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I'd trust JB-Weld for a repair, IFF you can splint over the crack.  That and
clean everything very well.  This assuming the crack was caused by trauma,
and not the tinworm degrading the material.  (Plastic worm?)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I did.

-D

> On May 26, 2020, at 4:21 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Those of you with front loader mildew: do you keep the door closed when the 
> washer is not in use?  We always leave our washer door open, no mildew, 20 
> years of use.
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> May 25, 2020 8:42:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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>>  Yes I have a 12 ish year old Maytag front loader and it does have 
>> mildew smell issues.
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[MBZ] OT: Old Ford Trucks

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Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Karl, 
No argument with any of your points.  
Here's my point:  If nursing home patients get transported to a hospital
before they expire does it reduce the number of nursing home deaths?
If sick prison inmates are transported to a hospital, where they die in a
day or two.  Do those count as prison deaths or hospital deaths? 
Maybe I'm too cynical but I can think of political motivations for reducing
nursing home and prison numbers and for increasing the general population
numbers.

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Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:40 PM
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Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

What should it be recorded as? The person died in the hospital.

There will always be data irregularities but the idea the hospitals are
somehow systematically having doctors enter fraudulent codes on death
certificates is pure BS. 1) it's a felony, with no benefit to a doctor to do
that, 2) we test everyone and we know whether they have covid 19 or not, so
there is no uncertainty 3) the people who die of covid pneumonia in hospital
have imaging ample imaging and other studies to back up their diagnoses.

The idea that hospitals can somehow control what I write in a death
certificate is laughable. I have zero incentive to lie about anything. The
hospital doesnt get paid any more or any less whether someone has pneumonia
from covid or another virus. All this stuff is politically motivated trolls
casting aspersions on electronic media. It would not surprise me if these
ideas originate outside the US in many cases.

Covid deaths at the beginning were vastly undercounted - not over counted.
A glance at the excess monthly mortality by year tells the story. People
were dying but we had no way to diagnose them because even hospitals could
not do tests.

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> Yet another distortion of the numbers:  If a nursing home patient in 
> NY gets COVID but is moved to a hospital before he/she dies it is not 
> recorded as a nursing home death.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

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Those of you with front loader mildew: do you keep the door closed when the 
washer is not in use?  We always leave our washer door open, no mildew, 20 
years of use.

May 25, 2020 8:42:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes :

> Yes I have a 12 ish year old Maytag front loader and it does have mildew 
>smell issues.
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Re: [MBZ] GLK 250 Blutec fuel gauge issue

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Last fill of the tank for my '95 E300 returned 31 mpg, all in town driving.
(Thanks Dan!)

Low traffic volume means that nearly every intersection is a green light, and 
the speed limit is 45 mph, so about optimum conditions for high mpg.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC
May 24, 2020 11:50:27 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes :

>   I've driven over 320 miles in my "new" 2014 GLK 250 with another +- 250 
>  
> miles left in the range (19 gallon tank, av. 30 mpg).  Yet the fuel gauge 
>  
> shows I am only down 1/3 of a tank.  Anyone else come across this glitch? 
>  
> I should be below 1/2 by now.  The needle is not jumping around.  Fuel 
>  
> sender?? 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

In the final analysis, the kinds of things fmiser mentioned are much more
important than mine. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 12:51 AM


> Scott wrote:

> Collateral damage includes everything from suicide and drug use to 
> domestic violence, to delayed disease diagnosis, to delayed medical 
> procedures, to hospital near bankruptcy and unemployed health 
> professionals.  Then there are the economic impacts like unpaid bills 
> and social damage like lost education.

That doesn't even touch on the loss of liberty, intrusion on freedom, and
the "mommy state" telling us what we can and cannot do.  "Wear your jacket!"
"Don't go outside until you put on your Wellingtons!"  "I'm cold, you need
to wear a jacket."

Freedom means the individual gets to choose what they think is best - even
if they are wrong.

If someone feels they are at risk, they can stay home.  Or wear a mask.  Or
keep 12 ft away.  But don't force me to hide under my bed because you are
afraid, and I won't force you to leave your house and take off your
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