Re: [MBZ] OK Don's Geothermal Setup [was: Re: Burnin' daylight]

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have geothermal heat for my house. I have two individual units so that 
depending on demand the smaller one would come on when primary doesn't have 
the out to keep up with the heat load. The backup strips are generally for 
when the heat pumps do not have the capacity to match the BTU lose and the 
strips come on general commanded by a three stag thermostat. Heat pumps are 
with water heat exchangers would be preferred over the the outdoor units 
that pull the heat from the air. These generally stop working and rely on 
heater strips when temperature difference becomes to great. My loop line is 
at the bottom of a small pond in front of our house. Incoming water temp to 
our unit gets down to just below 40 deg F toward the end of the winter.  So 
far this winter my heater strips have never come on.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
1995 E300D 413 Kmiles

-Original Message- 
From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 1:17 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK Don's Geothermal Setup [was: Re: Burnin' daylight]

I was under the impression that geothermal was intended for places where it 
was cold in winter where an air source heat pump was fine in places where it 
didn't get too cold. I'm also disappointed to find out that the supplemental 
heat has to come on at 10F with geothermal. I was under the impression that 
300' down the temp was pretty steady. Is it because OK is so dry that there 
is trouble shedding cold down there?

-Curt


From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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mercedes@okiebenz.com

Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK Don's Geothermal Setup [was: Re: Burnin' daylight]

You have the perfect climate for a geothermal heat pump.  Not too cold in
winter.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:04 AM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


As I said in the original thread:

Ours is a closed loop system from Climate Masters (located in OK). There
are two bore holes, each is 300'. The install took  two days for the loop,
and three days for the unit, but you have to factor in that we moved the
location of the unit to another room, installed the new hot water heater
where the old furnace was, and had to install all new ductwork in the
attic. I'm hoping that we'll get 20-30 years out of this system. We are
expecting at this time anyway, to spend the rest of our lives here, so the
up front investment made sense to us. I think that the only time we've had
the auxiliary heat strips (electric) come on was when we were below 10F.
Yes, we'd do it again - my wife loves it!

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
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 On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 17:32:36 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Hey Don,
 
  Could you tell us more about your geothermal setup?


 YES, PLEASE!


 Craig




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[MBZ] Tempting Car 1995 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Was looking at this just because it has less than half the miles than my 
current 95. Body work wouldn’t be too much of an issue?

http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/506697.html

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

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Re: [MBZ] My shaky front end is FIXED on my 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Haven't work on the back but I think it must be done as every time I go over 
sharp bumps, I get knock sounds from something in the back. It has been a 
bit annoying lately. There are a lot of linkages back there.


I ended up with a very nice ride this afternoon after taking my car in for 
an alignment. I haven't found any shops here that have the special equipment 
so I took it to the dealer. I had a 50 dollar service coupon so it won't be 
to bad. But they had to give me a loaner car for the night a brand new C300 
4matic. It only has 2600 miles on it. What a nice ride, quite a change from 
my 20 year old E300. I had to get some tutoring before I left for general 
operation of the vehicle.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
1995 E300D 420K miles

-Original Message- 
From: Max Dillon via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:38 PM
To: Mitch Haley ; Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My shaky front end is FIXED on my 95 E300D

That sounds like me.  Had to replace vacuum pump and timer, re-seal all the 
delivery valves, then found a complete suspension rebuild was needed, front 
and rear.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 24, 2015 5:47:08 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


BTW, were you the fellow with the 94-95 300D that was out of service
for an
extended time while waiting for a vacuum pump or oil pump or something
after the
vacuum pump self destructed?

Mitch.




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Re: [MBZ] My shaky front end is FIXED on my 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Center link on this car is fixed, thank goodness. The tie rod was set with a 
narrow metal tape measure and wrapped it around the whole assembly, kind a 
like measure circumference and set the new one to the same measurement as 
the old one. It seemed to work great as the steering wheel is the same as 
before the work. Have an appointment for an alignment tomorrow.


An no I am not the one with oil vacuum pump issue.

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Oh
1995 E300D 420k miles

-Original Message- 
From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 5:47 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Mitch Haley
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My shaky front end is FIXED on my 95 E300D

If you replace a tie rod end and don't get the length right, the car won't
necessarily pull, but the toe-in will be incorrect and the steering wheel 
will

be off center.
If you get the center link wrong, the steering wheel will be off center.

If your steering wheel is centered, you're probably OK, unless both parts 
are

out of adjustment and moving the wheel in opposite directions.

BTW, were you the fellow with the 94-95 300D that was out of service for an
extended time while waiting for a vacuum pump or oil pump or something after 
the

vacuum pump self destructed?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] My shaky front end is FIXED on my 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Over the weekend I changed center steering link, the right tie rod assembly, 
and the idler arm bushing. The left tie rod assembly was changed earlier. I no 
longer get the front end shake above sixty. I actually need to be careful to 
watch my speed as I did like the vibration I had above 60 mph. I also had all ( 
4 ) tires balance rechecked. I could see wear on the OD of Idler arm bushings.

Not sure what part or combination of parts fixed the issue, but it is gone. 
Alignment must be pretty close as I do not sense any pull one direction or the 
other.

Happy motoring now!

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 420K miles
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel for Mitch

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

This is identical to what I am currently driving. Really love the car. Still 
get over 31 miles to the gallon with 420K miles.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

1995 E300D

-Original Message- 
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 11:13 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel for Mitch

Great color combination too.  Green!  Light colored interior!  Too bad it's
not a turbo, though.

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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Somebody should jump on that, that is a well optioned car and is a hell of
a deal

Sent from my iPhone

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2391001-fs-1995-mercedes-benz-e300-diesel.html#post12349969

 Dan
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[MBZ] 1995 E300D Idler arm bushing Change and suspension work

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

This weekend I will changing out the bushing on my steering idler arm. 
Reviewing the service manual, I thought that the bushing need to be installed 
in a certain orientation, because the bushing themselves have a red-band around 
one portion od the outer diameter. The instructions do not mention anything 
about orienting the bushing when I looked it over. Hopefully when I go to 
remove the old ones, I may see if the same marking is on the old ones.

I will also be changing center rod, right steering link, and the steering 
dampener. Lower ball joints and left steering were replaced ( 2 – 3 ) years ago.

Replacement is probably due, as the car now has 420,000 miles on it! 

Robert Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
1995 E300 420Kmiles  
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E300D Idler arm bushing Change and suspension work/becker radio

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Max,

Thank you for the comment, just wanted make sure.

I have been thinking of pulling the radio in my 95 as I have lost the 
antenna command when the radio is turned on. Antenna function was just fine 
and then became intermittent. Pulled the antenna and is working just fine, 
but there is no out put from the radio.  Need to make the special removal 
tool to get the radio out. I may have to break down and install a manual 
switch or command the antenna up and leave it up.


Regards,

Bob Massmann
Robert Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
1995 E300 420Kmiles

-Original Message- 
From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 8:54 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1995 E300D Idler arm bushing Change and suspension work

Hey Robert, long time no post!

Good luck with that, I don't remember anything about the orientation when I
replaced those bushings on my '95.  I do remember that there is one or two
exhaust heat shields that you need to remove in order to get a good attack
angle for those bolts.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] 124 Steering Wheel Shakes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Max,

Your symptoms seem a lot like what I have been experiencing with my 95 E300D 
with 419,000 miles. Lower ball joints have been done as well a new shocks 
and damper. I had also changed the drives side tie rod. I probably need to 
change the other side as well as the idler arm rubber bush. Is there 
anything else I would need to replace?


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
1995 E300D

-Original Message- 
From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:30 PM
To: Mercedes
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: [MBZ] 124 Steering Wheel Shakes

'87 300TD, 124.193, 343k miles.  Help me with some diagnosis ideas please.
At highway speed, sometimes the steering wheel will shake, most of the time
it will not.  Today it would shake during a turn at highway speed, and
turning left or right would make it shake.  Occasionally, on the first
acceleration to highway speed, once I get above 50 mph or so, it will shake
while going straight, and then stop after 5 - 10 seconds.  After a shaking
episode, the car is fine for the rest of the day.

A few weeks ago I had the car aligned.  I've just installed a set of used
tires on the front axle; these were the best two taken off my '95 sedan a
couple weeks ago.

Paid extra for Road Force balancing:

http://www.gsp9700.com/search/findgsp9700.cfm

Most of the front-end components are fairly new and either OE from MB or
Rusty parts.  Struts, lower control arm inner bushings, ball joints,
idler arm bushings.  I'm not sure about the steering damper.  The wheel
bearings were checked and packed with fresh grease about 7 years / 40k
miles ago.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] BECKER repair

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Does anyone have their web-link or phone number?

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 9:49 PM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] BECKER repair

Absolutely!

Call Eddie or Tom on Monday and they’ll have some options for you.

Dan


On Aug 28, 2015, at 9:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
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The Becker in my 300CD seems to have died. I will check fuse in the 
morning

but I want to get it redone anyway as the  cassette  ate a Christmas
Carol  tape last year. Is the Becker repair place in NJ the best bet?
Or...?
THX
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Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Nice article. I would have sent it to him if he was still alive.

My Dad was in a glider training program for WWII, luckily the program was 
suspended before my Dad was shipped over. His training took place in Texas I 
think. Program was stopped because of high casualty rates during the landing 
process.


-Original Message- 
From: OK Don via Mercedes

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 7:06 PM
To: Mitch Haley ; Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

Good one. I'd read about the development of this procedure before, but
hadn't seen a movie of it in action.

It makes me think that is we did this today, a glider club could launch
sailplanes twice as fast as they do with the tow plane landing after each
tow - they could just circle around, constantly pulling gliders into the
air - too cool. My 182 used to have a glider tow hook, might have to find
another one . . .

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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For the military aviation buffs:


http://warisboring.com/articles/the-snatch-method-was-one-crazy-way-to-make-a-glider-fly/

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Re: [MBZ] [Norton AntiSpam] This guy is smoking crack

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I like this one, but too far away. But would be a very nice change from what 
I currently have!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/191701774291?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 427,000 miles

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Subject: [Norton AntiSpam][MBZ] This guy is smoking crack



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[MBZ] !995 E300D Question Injection Pump Leak Repair

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Max,

I changed my injection pump delivery valve ‘O’ rings and copper washers today, 
but it seems to be taking an awful long time to get the fuel line full of fuel. 
Still not seeing any fuel at the injectors where have the lines cracked to 
bleed the lines.

Not sure if I have done something wrong. I only removed the body, the spring 
and the copper washer. Everything else I left alone. I was surprised ( 4) out 
of the six injectors didn’t have much fuel and may have been due to the poor 
condition of the ‘O’ rings on the delivery valve body.

Any thoughts would be helpful.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
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Re: [MBZ] !995 E300D Question Injection Pump Leak Repair

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Well I finally go fuel to the injectors, I just wasn't expecting it to take 
as low as it did. I did have a second battery in parallel. Now I can put the 
rest of the intake manifold and covers back on to button thing up. It will 
be nice not to smell diesel when I stop and leaking on the floor. None of 
the 'O' rings came out in one piece, they were very hard and brittle. I 
believe they have never been change since the car was new!


427,000  miles and still running.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 7:23 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] !995 E300D Question Injection Pump Leak Repair

Max,

I changed my injection pump delivery valve ‘O’ rings and copper washers 
today, but it seems to be taking an awful long time to get the fuel line 
full of fuel. Still not seeing any fuel at the injectors where have the 
lines cracked to bleed the lines.


Not sure if I have done something wrong. I only removed the body, the spring 
and the copper washer. Everything else I left alone. I was surprised ( 4) 
out of the six injectors didn’t have much fuel and may have been due to the 
poor condition of the ‘O’ rings on the delivery valve body.


Any thoughts would be helpful.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
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[MBZ] Nice looking 2006 CDI in Houston, TX

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have been looking at this car for some time and am surprised it is still 
available. Price was just reduced to $ 6995. Very tempted. but too far away! 
Anybody to look at it

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201527339178?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649=STRK



Bob Massmann



1995 E300D with 434,000 miles


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[MBZ] Finally had to have My Mercedes Towed

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Well it finally happened, I had to have my 95 Mercedes E300D towed home. The 
serpentine belt tensioner pulley seized. I have attached a photo of what was 
left. The bearing assembly got very hot as you can see. I initially notice my 
ABS light turning on and of then all the lower warning lights came on dimly. 
The next thing I noticed was the engine temp starting to climb. Luckily I was 
close to an exit and got off the interstate. Toward the end I lost all power 
for steering, but could still steer, but with difficulty. Parked in an open lot 
and called (AAA). Engine got hot but was not in the red. I had replaced the 
alternator last fall, but didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary when I was 
reinstalling the belt.

Granted, I have just turned over 445,000 miles on this car, it is serving me 
very well for the last ( 7 –8 ) years that I have been driving it. Would like 
to see the 1/2 million mile mark, which might take another ( 2 ) years.

Regards,

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Re: [MBZ] Current Project BMW 525i 2002

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Mercedes is closing in on the 750,000 km mark. We will see how it goes for 
the one after that!


Bob Massmann

1995 E300D 445,000 miles
2002 BMW 525i 183,00 miles running


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Current Project BMW 525i 2002

Waytago!

I look forward to when you tell us you have the million km badge for
your 1995!


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Re: [MBZ] Current Project BMW 525i 2002

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Got it running today! Only had one leak, at the one of the trans cooler 
lines coming out of the trans. Had to remove the line to swap the engine. I 
had put new 'O' rings on the lines not sure why it was leaking. Tighten up 
the clamp plate that holds them hopefully that will stop it.


I have a few other things to fix before I put back on the ground for a test 
drive.


Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 445,000 miles
2002 BMW 525i 183,00 miles almost running


-Original Message- 
From: Max Dillon via Mercedes

Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 10:30 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Current Project

Well, at least it is German!  ;>)

Keep us updated, they are very nice to drive.
--
Max Dillon


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[MBZ] Cheap Mercedes from "Boat Angel Ministry"

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

This was too far away for me

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351976279372?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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[MBZ] Boat Angel Ministry 2006 E350 with bad Trans

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Went for more than it should have I think! 256,000 miles

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361690796501?ul_noapp=true

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes on Ebay thru Boat Angel Ministrey

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I looked up the dealer trade in value and it was only $1800!

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 8:54 PM 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Meade Dillon 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes on Ebay thru Boat Angel Ministrey 


Hmmm, a boat anchor (expensive!) from the boat angels?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


*/AN ADDITIONAL $/**/_299.00_/**/(document handling fee) is added to the
purchase price./*



On 8/23/16 8:50 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:


I would be interested in this but, it is 11 hours away, it is a gasser,
broken trans, and it has 256,000 miles.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361690796501?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDX
X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
E300D, 446,000 miles
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[MBZ] Mercedes on Ebay thru Boat Angel Ministrey

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I would be interested in this but, it is 11 hours away, it is a gasser, broken 
trans, and it has 256,000 miles.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361690796501?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
E300D, 446,000 miles
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Re: [MBZ] I want this '62 Rolls Silver Cloud

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I like this one more!

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-unimog-42720/

Bob Massmann
95 E300D 447,800 miles

-Original Message- 
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:33 AM 
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Subject: [MBZ] I want this '62 Rolls Silver Cloud 


In the worst way.  Anybody want to hazard a guess as to it's final bid
price in 6 days?

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-rolls-royce-silver-cloud-ii/
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[MBZ] Fw: Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I ordered and got my new tumbler and key for my 95 E300D. The internet 
mercedes shop I was dealing with could not supply a matching key and tumbler 
to the car. I was amazed when I found out the local Mercedes dealership 
charged the same price for the tumbler and key, and I didn't even have to 
pay shipping. I ordered it on Monday and picked it up today. I got installed 
when I got home tonight.


The steps I went through to complete the key/tumbler change, which was made 
more difficult because I couldn't get the key back to the removal position.


1) Remove the the headlight control knob, should be just a straight pull of 
the knob
2) Removed the plastic trim that hides the screws that hold the lower dash 
cover below the steering column
3) I removed the instrument cluster to access the ( 2 ) screws that hold the 
steering column

4) You may need to disconnect the wires from the steering itself
5) I tried to remove the steering column, but couldn't figure that out ( I 
have an electric advance-retract column )
6) Since the tumbler is in the off position, the push pin, see attached 
photo, can not be depressed to release the steering lock assembly from the 
steering column.

7) Remove the screw that clamps the steering lock to the steering column.
8) Then grind the release pin down until can removed the steering lock 
assembly, you may need to towels and rags to protect the car interior
9) I next removed the ( 2 ) screws that attach steering column to the dash 
structure, this is done so that you can remove the steering lock assembly 
from the column
10) Rotate the column clockwise until you have the room to pull and remove 
the steering lock assembly from the column
11) With the steering lock out, you can grind through the steel protective 
sleeve to gain access to the hole to release tumbler from the steering lock.
  You need to make ( 2 ) cuts 180 degrees apart, I actually had to make 
a third cut, to remove the sleeve
NOTE: Be very careful how deep you go, if you go too deep you may make the 
steering lock housing unusable
12) At this point you can assemble the steering lock assembly back into the 
steering column try to center the push pin with the hole in the steering 
column and tighten the

 clamp screw
13) You now can reattach the steering column to the dash and put the 
instrument cluster back
14) If you have the new tumbler and protective sleeve these can be installed 
now, make sure the ignition switch is in the run position and with the steel 
protective sleeve over the tumbler and key installed in tumbler, orient the 
key to match the position of the ignition and slide the assembly into the 
steering lock and push until the sleeve locks in place. Take this part 
carefully, as I didn't get it in the correct position and had to remove it 
and realigned things and try again.

15) reinstall dash covers and plastic and you should be good to go!

-Original Message- 
From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:36 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

Bob, explain this again?  How did you get up to the point that you could
use the abrasive cut-off wheel?  I think you said that you removed the
entire steering column?

I'm going to have a similar fight with the "95 124 Cabriolet, keys are
missing and the ignition tumbler / lock assembly looks like it has been
broken free of the steering column in a failed attempt to steal the car.  I
have the steering column from Wilton's '87 300D, plan is to install that
with a new tumbler matched to the VIN so one key opens doors and trunk as
well as operates the ignition.

Thanks,
Max

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Abrasive cutting wheel cut right through no problem. Was very careful with
the depth and only have several small cuts into the steering lock housing
that will be hidden under the new protector sleeve. Tomorrow I will be
putting most everything back together, as I have order new sleeve and
tumbler set and they mount from the front and slide in place. I tried to
use the tumbler from my 190 until the new ones come in, but after install,
it would not turn to the off position to release the key.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles



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Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Initially the key stopped somewhere between Accessory and run, and it 
wouldn't either direction until I added more pressure to turn it.  Didn't 
have any problems before this , no prior incidents at all?


BM

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

Should have pullled it while you could still turn it. Try giggling it while 
turning to see if you can get it to move one last time to pull it out then 
use a screw driver to start it until the new one comes in


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Well I have a problem with my ignition switch when I got home tonight.  I 
had trouble turning the switch to the off position, I had to apply unusual 
pressure to get it to the off position. Yes the transmission lever was in 
the park position. I put the key back in and tried to turn it to the 
accessory position, but it wouldn’t turn at all. I tried my spare key with 
the same result, could not turn it out of the off position. Will need to 
see if I can the whole assembly out. Is there a way to get the tumbler set 
out besides turning it to release position to insert the release pin.


Not sure what I need to do next? I guess it is possible to wear the switch 
to a none work condition.


Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles
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[MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Well I have a problem with my ignition switch when I got home tonight.  I had 
trouble turning the switch to the off position, I had to apply unusual pressure 
to get it to the off position. Yes the transmission lever was in the park 
position. I put the key back in and tried to turn it to the accessory position, 
but it wouldn’t turn at all. I tried my spare key with the same result, could 
not turn it out of the off position. Will need to see if I can the whole 
assembly out. Is there a way to get the tumbler set out besides turning it to 
release position to insert the release pin.

Not sure what I need to do next? I guess it is possible to wear the switch to a 
none work condition.

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Abrasive cutting wheel cut right through no problem. Was very careful with 
the depth and only have several small cuts into the steering lock housing 
that will be hidden under the new protector sleeve. Tomorrow I will be 
putting most everything back together, as I have order new sleeve and 
tumbler set and they mount from the front and slide in place. I tried to use 
the tumbler from my 190 until the new ones come in, but after install, it 
would not turn to the off position to release the key.


Regards,

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles

-Original Message- 
From: Curley McLain via Mercedes

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

Waytago!   Too bad you didn't get it out before you had to hose the ign
lockset.

I found out you can't drill out the lock or the protective sleeve.  I
took the front plate from a 123 to th a guy who was selling carbide
drill bits that were 'indestructible" and would "drill through
anything." It dulled his drill.  The drill barely made a dent.  He
asked what it was.  I said Kryptonite!

I had gotten the front plate out by grinding off the protective sleeve
and then the lock.


Robert Massmann via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
October 15, 2016 at 8:23 PM

From: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 3:18 PM
To: curtlud...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

Just to let you know I finally got the tumbler out, but accomplished it by 
cutting the protective sleeve. I have gotten the tumbler to rotate outside 
of the housing once our twice and found one broken piece of pot metal, but 
would like to take it further apart to see what is really mucking the 
operation. I will order a new key and tumbler set and sleeve, as the 190 
steering lock that I have, doesn’t have the transmission lock feature.


Regards,

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles


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[MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

From: rmassm...@embarqmail.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 3:18 PM
To: curtlud...@yahoo.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

Just to let you know I finally got the tumbler out, but accomplished it by 
cutting the protective sleeve. I have gotten the tumbler to rotate outside of 
the housing once our twice and found one broken piece of pot metal, but would 
like to take it further apart to see what is really mucking the operation. I 
will order a new key and tumbler set and sleeve, as the 190 steering lock that 
I have, doesn’t have the transmission lock feature.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles 

From: Curt Raymond 
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 9:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List ; Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

That's how it goes, many of us have been there... 


Curt


Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


  On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes
  <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
  Initially the key stopped somewhere between Accessory and run, and it 
  wouldn't either direction until I added more pressure to turn it.  Didn't 
  have any problems before this , no prior incidents at all?

  BM

  -Original Message- 
  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
  Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:01 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

  Should have pullled it while you could still turn it. Try giggling it while 
  turning to see if you can get it to move one last time to pull it out then 
  use a screw driver to start it until the new one comes in

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On Oct 13, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
  > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
  >
  > Well I have a problem with my ignition switch when I got home tonight.  I 
  > had trouble turning the switch to the off position, I had to apply unusual 
  > pressure to get it to the off position. Yes the transmission lever was in 
  > the park position. I put the key back in and tried to turn it to the 
  > accessory position, but it wouldn’t turn at all. I tried my spare key with 
  > the same result, could not turn it out of the off position. Will need to 
  > see if I can the whole assembly out. Is there a way to get the tumbler set 
  > out besides turning it to release position to insert the release pin.
  >
  > Not sure what I need to do next? I guess it is possible to wear the switch 
  > to a none work condition.
  >
  > Bob Massmann
  > 1995 E300D 448,000 miles
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have a new tumbler and key on order, but I am not sure it will match my 
current car. May have to have it re-keyed to get things to match doors and 
trunk?

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles 

- Original Message -
From: "Robert Massmann via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Robert Massmann" <rmassm...@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 10:53:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

Max,

I got hung up trying to remove the steering column and had to grind the 
steering lock retaining pin. Normally this pin can be pushed in if the tumbler 
is in the run position. Since I couldn't turn the key from the off position, I 
had to grind the pin. This allowed me to then pull the steering lock assembly 
and try to get the key to work of the steering column, which it didn't and I 
then used an abrasive wheel to cut the steel protective ring. Then I had access 
to the release pin holes to remove the tumbler set.

I will add to this later as I am getting ready to travel to Seabrook, NH for 
work.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles 


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Below is what I got back from the online order department. I can get key and 
tumbler, but it will not match :(.

The tumbler that would fit your car is a TRP item which can only be purchased 
and installed through your local Mercedes dealer. The one you ordered is one 
that does not require a VIN and will not be cut to your car. 

Bob Massmann

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From: "Robert Massmann via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Robert Massmann" <rmassm...@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

I have a new tumbler and key on order, but I am not sure it will match my 
current car. May have to have it re-keyed to get things to match doors and 
trunk?

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles 

----- Original Message -
From: "Robert Massmann via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Robert Massmann" <rmassm...@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 10:53:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

Max,

I got hung up trying to remove the steering column and had to grind the 
steering lock retaining pin. Normally this pin can be pushed in if the tumbler 
is in the run position. Since I couldn't turn the key from the off position, I 
had to grind the pin. This allowed me to then pull the steering lock assembly 
and try to get the key to work of the steering column, which it didn't and I 
then used an abrasive wheel to cut the steel protective ring. Then I had access 
to the release pin holes to remove the tumbler set.

I will add to this later as I am getting ready to travel to Seabrook, NH for 
work.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles 


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Max,

I got hung up trying to remove the steering column and had to grind the 
steering lock retaining pin. Normally this pin can be pushed in if the tumbler 
is in the run position. Since I couldn't turn the key from the off position, I 
had to grind the pin. This allowed me to then pull the steering lock assembly 
and try to get the key to work of the steering column, which it didn't and I 
then used an abrasive wheel to cut the steel protective ring. Then I had access 
to the release pin holes to remove the tumbler set.

I will add to this later as I am getting ready to travel to Seabrook, NH for 
work.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
1995 E300D 448,000 miles 

- Original Message -
From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Meade Dillon" <dillonm...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:36:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

Bob, explain this again?  How did you get up to the point that you could
use the abrasive cut-off wheel?  I think you said that you removed the
entire steering column?

I'm going to have a similar fight with the "95 124 Cabriolet, keys are
missing and the ignition tumbler / lock assembly looks like it has been
broken free of the steering column in a failed attempt to steal the car.  I
have the steering column from Wilton's '87 300D, plan is to install that
with a new tumbler matched to the VIN so one key opens doors and trunk as
well as operates the ignition.

Thanks,
Max

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Abrasive cutting wheel cut right through no problem. Was very careful with
> the depth and only have several small cuts into the steering lock housing
> that will be hidden under the new protector sleeve. Tomorrow I will be
> putting most everything back together, as I have order new sleeve and
> tumbler set and they mount from the front and slide in place. I tried to
> use the tumbler from my 190 until the new ones come in, but after install,
> it would not turn to the off position to release the key.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Massmann
> 1995 E300D 448,000 miles
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Well I got the steering lock out steering colum. I ground the locking pin 
until the assembly came out since I couldn't get the key to turn. Semi good 
news is that the same lock mechanism is in my dead 87 "190 2.5 Turbo diesel.


Question should I be able to pull the connector plug on the end of the 
ignition switch with the tumbler still in place or will I have to start 
cutting.


The plan is to use the steering lock and tumbler from the 190 and get a 
matching tumbler for the E300D, so I do not have to dig into and change all 
the locks over!


Bob Massmann
1995 E300D

-Original Message- 
From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Mitch Haley
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ignition Switch Issue 95 E300D


You're going to wish you'd never turned it to "lock" when it didn't want to 
go.
Wilton got lucky, attached his key to a vibrating detail sander and buzzed 
the
cylinder wafers into the 'unlocked' position one last time so he could 
remove

the cylinder.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Dieselfication!

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have a 95 E300D and have put almost 200,000 miles on it and it still 30 
plus miles to the gallon. In another 50,000 miles it will have covered 
500,000 miles. Living in Ohio rust is showing up in many different places 
fender trunk and below taillight assemblies.


It is a joy to drive. Do not know how much longer I will be driving it?

Bob
95 E300D owner
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Dan--- via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:21 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: [MBZ] Dieselfication!

The fleet is moving in this direction.

Eldest son sold the Tommymobile today for $1200, roughly what was paid for 
it two years ago.  Not a bad ROI, considering.


That money now comes to me and he is the new owner of the 95 E300D.  Another 
convert!


As an aside, I have put 180 miles on it since it's first fill up and it 
still has 2/3 of a tank of fuel left. I'm dying to see what the mileage 
figure is going to be for it


-D

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Re: [MBZ] Dieselfication!

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

It might be someone else they you may be thinking of as the A/C system is 
working fine, except when to control system decides to act up. Driving my 
2002 BMW 525i more now. BMW still need to several things fixed like a bent 
right front fender and getting the A/C back up and working after the engine 
swap. System was open when I removed the engine accessories to install on 
the donor engine. Will have to do some research on what I should do before I 
recharge the system with new fluid. Kind of surprised car gas mileage is ( 
28.3 mpg ).


I have been out of town the last several weeks so haven't had much time at 
home to work on cars. :(


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 8:30 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dieselfication!

Hey Bob, long time no read!

Glad to hear your E300 is still ticking along.  Did you ever have the
evaporator replaced?  I'm facing that now with mine.

- 



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Re: [MBZ] Tranny plug, etc.

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

On my older Mercedes that type plug had a lock collar that needed to be 
rotated to release the plug?


Bob Massmann

Oregonia, Ohio

With a very tired 95 E300D, 462,000 miles

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 2:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tranny plug, etc.

You already pulled the plug on drivers side middle? And the other one is at 
the back?


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I'm fixing to pull the engine/tranny in this 420SEL donor, I pulled off on 
electrical connection (front one) on the tranny, there is another one, 
bigger, behind it, that is a bugger to get at and pull off.  Is there some 
kind of clip or screw or something holding it on, or will this one just 
pull off too?  Any suggestions on it?  Not much room to pry on it.


I got all the front flex disk bolts off but one, which I need to rotate 
the shaft before I can get at it, but the rear wheels are on the ground so 
I will need to get that up, or disconnect the rear too.  It was 
interesting that this thing has been sitting a year or more, but the flex 
disks look fairly new, proper MB parts too.  I guess they will be good to 
keep around.


I cut out all the front of the frame so I can slide the engine right out, 
I might just lift it up a bit and roll the car out from under it once I 
get the driveshaft and connector disconnected.  I have the front wheels on 
ramps now, if I roll it back that would drop the car down and leave the 
engine up a bit, I'll figure it out.  The $20 HF sawzall went right 
through that metal like butter, it is pretty soft steel.


On another note, that saw is still going strong after like 3 years of 
abuse, definitely got my money's worth on that thing.


--R


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Re: [MBZ] Isco boo boo

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

When I had an accident in my E300D the insurance company wouldn't let me use 
any original junk yard part. I think they were bound and determined to make 
sure my car was totaled. Damage was right front bumper, head light, right 
fender, and hood. I kept the car and the insurance company gave me the 
difference. I rebuilt with salvage yard parts got it repainted and still had 
a $900 in my pocket. I am still driving it, with 459,000 miles on the 
odometer.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: clay monroe via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 6:19 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: clay monroe
Subject: [MBZ] Isco boo boo

The adjuster came out and took a look at Allen.  He found more damage than 
just the bumper.  Seems she came deep under the car and bent some of the 
sheet metal under the plate.  Shifted the gaps for the trunk as well.  His 
estimate was around $1380.  If the body shop finds more damage they will pay 
more.


I took it to the shop I like about an hour ago.  They said they can not work 
on it because they do not use single stage paint, just water based.  They 
also could not match colors.  They recommended a shop 15 miles away.  The 
car drives ok for now.


Do I really need to address the out of spec sheet metal?  I might be able to 
source a bumper and shock to make that stuff better.


I am not yet able to bend over or crawl around under the car due to the head 
injury messing with balance.  I have yet to see the extent of underside 
damage.  I did not see damage to the spare wheel well from inside.


clay
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes E300 Turbo-diesel - $3500

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I came across this the other day, the price seemed low $5500, would be a 
nice upgrade to my 1995 300D with 462,000 miles.


https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/2007-mercedes-e320-bluetec/6425280658.html

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: [MBZ] Mercedes E300 Turbo-diesel - $3500


   This might be a half decent deal

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-e300-turbo-diesel/6421206904.html

--FT

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[MBZ] Another Craigslist Find in Ohio

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I came across this the other day, the price seemed low $5500, would be a 
nice upgrade to my 1995 300D with 462,000 miles.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/2007-mercedes-e320-bluetec/6425280658.html

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
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[MBZ] Craigs List Finds

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I would be interested in the 2007 E320 to replace my 95 E300D, but need to take 
care of some other financial matters first!

  1.. 
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/95-mercedes-e300-diesel/6354484278.html 
  2.. 
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/2008-mercedes-gl320-cdi/6408949130.html 
  3.. 
https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/2007-mercedes-e320-bluetec/6406587794.html
 
  4.. 
https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/d/2006-mercedes-e320cdi/6412352276.html
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[MBZ] Selling My 1995 E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

All,

I have decided to sell my E300D, 1995, with 464500 miles. I have had the car 
for about 8 years and has been my daily driver up until this year. I am the 
second owner.

Rust and other minor issues I do not have time to deal with.

If interested I can send current photos!

Regards,

Robert Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
30 miles North East of Cincinnati, Ohio
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Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Andrew,

Sounds a little like my 85 300CD, I had too stop driving it in the the 
winter time because it wouldn't start even with fresh glow plugs. Turned out 
to be low compression, which is needed to get the fuel to ignite. Glow plugs 
draw at least 10 amps and then drops of slightly as the plug warms up. You 
could also check and see if you may have a large voltage drop on the 
individual glow plug wires to make sure you do not have higher than normal 
resistance in each of the glow plug wires. To much of a voltage drop means 
the cglow plug will not get full voltage and will not heat up fully as 
needed!


Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

95 E300D
85 300CD
82 300D
81 VW Rabbit Pickup
2002 BMW 525i

-Original Message- 
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 4:27 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

On my W123 300TD, I am having a hard time getting it started when the
temperature dips below 20 F despite the car being plugged into the block
heater.  It takes 2 minutes of multiple glows and attempts before I can get
it fired up. Once I get it started the engine runs as if it were preheated.

Question: Does this sound like a glow plug issue?  Do the plugs wear out or
simply fail?  If one is dead will the other 4 start the car, albeit
laboriously?

Happy 2018 to all,

Andrew
1983 300TD
362 K
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[MBZ] Two 300D ( 1984 & 1985 ) at local pick in pull

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Below is link for pick-in-pull yard pictures of two older 300D Mercedes. I go 
there from time to time. Got a complete sunroof system for my BMW X3 for $36 on 
a half price day.

http://upullandsave.com/used-car-parts/?make=MERCEDES-BENZ=300

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
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[MBZ] 1995 Mercedes E300D

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Finally sold the E300D with 466,000 miles on it. Got $700. I originally paid 
$4400 and had the car since 2009. I put about 200,000 miles on it during the 
ownership period.

Regards,

Bob Massmannn
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

My sister lives in Mt Pleasant and she took her RV and left after doing all 
the storm prep work. She lives near the causeway that goes to Sullivan's 
Island.


B Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 3:56 PM
To: Mercedes
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carolina

A Good Report!  New Bern looks to be in about the worst of it.

Still no rain here in Mt Pleasant, just nice and windy.  I'm probably going
to move our cars into the street so they're not under or near any trees, in
a little bit here.  Predicted gusts could get as high as 50 mph.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:32 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Report from No. 1 son, New Bern N.C. 1 p.m. today.

High and dry

Water receding

No damage that I know of / no flooding

Whole house generator dividing power and AC since 6:30 pm last night

Everyone ok

--
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
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[MBZ] Next Diesel Mercedes ( GLK 250 BlueTech )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I was  thinking of look for a newer diesel Mercedes and the like is to one I 
may good look at. Any suggestions or alternatives. Vehicle would be used to tow 
a small popup camper that is about 1000 lbs.

Robert Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

https://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?qs=5745420f7d1928239fb8f0c893fb7e07a350dd1ba4b9bad43eb38dc8b9cc87245ead01e8f3997090632873f0ba29f0fd044b7bae16ef8fb30955f21f6ec9fc5d1c08db5d01e49e1a660e1a5eb09d97cdd675444989c043ed
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Re: [MBZ] OT electric motor assembly

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Max,

Do you have a motor part number and the photos of what you have would be 
good too!


Designer of motorized milling spindles up to 100 Hp

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 7:18 PM
To: Mercedes
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: [MBZ] OT electric motor assembly

A couple years ago I took apart the well pump motor to replace bearings,
and now I've got bearings  and I'm ready to put it all back together.

However, too many parts and not enough memory of how they all fit back
together.

Anyone know of a site that has exploded diagrams for GE motors?
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Check engine light on 250 GLK Bluetec SUV

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Andrew,

How do you like your GLK so far, I have been considering this as my next 
diesel vehicle.


Regards,

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 10:57 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] Check engine light on 250 GLK Bluetec SUV

I've driven my 2014 250 GLK Bluetec for about 2k miles since early April.
I just noticed yesterday that the "check engine" icon was lit.  This is a
generic, non-specific alert that the owner'smanual says I must get
professionally evaluated.  The vehicle is behaving normally in every regard.

I hesitate to take the car into the dealership for what they might tell
me...  so I would probably ask my indy tech if he had the computer hookup
to do the testing...  Or would Advance Auto lend me a diagnostic tool so I
can self-evaluate the issue that has caused the check engine light to
illuminate?
Suggestions?

2014 GLK 250 Bluetec SUV
Rides great but an Issue Lurks
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Re: [MBZ] What to Do? Fix and Seel or Just sell as is?

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Well I posted the Van for sale this morning on Craigslist and sold it 11 
hours later. Asked 1800 and got 1600 cash. I think trade in value was in the 
range of $1800-850. And now I DO NOT HAVE TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX 
THE STUCK DOOR.


Thank you for your thoughts and input!

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 3:06 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What to Do? Fix and Seel or Just sell as is?

Unfortunately it is the passenger side door, which is used more often than
the drivers side door, which still works just fine, electrically or
manually.

Bob Massmann 



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Re: [MBZ] Highest Mileage MB You’ve Owned

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

My 1995 E300D ( 465,317 ) miles on it when I sold it. Just had more issues 
than I wanted to deal with and didn't really have time to fix.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

BMW X3
BMW 525i
85 Mercedes 300CD, Non-Running Project
82 Mercedes 300 Turbo, Non-Running Project

-Original Message- 
From: OK Don via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 10:07 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Highest Mileage MB You’ve Owned

IIRC, the '93 300D 2.5T (I think Craig has it now?) was close to 380k when
I sold it to Kaleb.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 8:56 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] What to Do? Fix and Seel or Just sell as is?

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Clay,

I can not even get it to open in manual mode. I looked at the opposite door 
and there are two latches that lock in when driving. I also removed the 
other doors inner panel to see how the mechanisms worked. The latches appear 
to be jammed and will not release to open the door, which makes impossible 
to fix the electric door drive cable!


Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Clay via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, September 07, 2020 6:33 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Clay
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What to Do? Fix and Seel or Just sell as is?

May view would be to sell as is due to age and mileage.  Nicely appointed, 
but once you start mucking about with the door electronics, the likelihood 
of greater damage incurred in replacing the failed wires would reduce sales 
price.   Could take a look at how the wires are routed from the opposing 
door and maybe you find a way to put 12v so it can pop open for repair? 
Did you check fuses.  Dr. Booth admonished all to check and replace fuses, 
which alleviated a plethora of issues.



clay

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout 
of self-recrimination and wetness.”


B. Johnson
01/09/2020

On Sep 7, 2020, at 5:42 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I have a 2004 Toyota Sienna which is my wife’s car and she no longer 
drives. It has 287,000 miles on it and run just fine. We had bought it 
used 6-8 years ago and has served us very well. It is an XLE model with 
all the bells and whistles. Added features are backup camera, built-in DVD 
player and head phones, parking avoidance sensors', heated front seats, 
and auto distance tracking under cruise control. It is a very nice van and 
we have used it for camping trips into the Smokes and to the East coast 
pulling a popup camper.


I have spent the last several weeks cleaning it up, inside and out and 
during this time frame the passenger door power door cable decided to 
break. No problem it has a manual mode, but when I closed the sliding door 
the latches jammed and I can not get the door open. For some reason the 
sliding door refuses to release and open.


My options are, sell as is, or fix the sliding door than sell.

A complete door from a pick-n-pull is about $75, if I wanted to take the 
time and destroy the current door to get it open. Or I could try and start 
pulling interior panel and seeing if I can get the door open. Just not 
sure if it is worth it to try to fix before selling it?


Just trying to put it out there on which way to go.

I am retired, so I can take whatever time is needed.

Thank you, sorry it not a Mercedes question.

Bob Massmann

BMW X3
BMW 525i
85 Mercedes 300CD, Non-Running Project
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Re: [MBZ] What to Do? Fix and Seel or Just sell as is?

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Unfortunately it is the passenger side door, which is used more often than 
the drivers side door, which still works just fine, electrically or 
manually.


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 10:39 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What to Do? Fix and Seel or Just sell as is?

It has two sliding doors?
You only need one, but there's a big difference between 17 years old,
everything works, and I'm selling it because it's not worth fixing this
stupid door.

Sad that it picked now to fail. Or is it the door you never use and it
failed because you opened it after a long hiatus? If it's the door you
never use, that tilts the balance more towards 'forget it'.

Mitch

On Tue, September 8, 2020 10:12 am, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:

Clay,


I can not even get it to open in manual mode. I looked at the opposite
door and there are two latches that lock in when driving.



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Re: [MBZ] MAX!!!! 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class · E 300D Sedan 4D,$800

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I had one just like it, same color too! Sold it for $700 with 463,000 miles 
on it. But mine was starting to rust and didn't feel like fixing it up? 
Bought it with about 240,000 mile on it. It was a nice ride.


BMW X3
BMW 525i
85 Mercedes 300CD, Non-Running Project
82 Mercedes 300 Turbo, Non-Running Project

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, September 07, 2020 10:20 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MAX 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class · E 300D Sedan 4D,$800

Somebody needs to jump on that.

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On Sep 7, 2020, at 9:12 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Doesn't look half bad, I bet $500 would get it

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/598667297479491

1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class · E 300D Sedan 4D
$800
Vehicles 
Listed a day ago in Hoschton, GA 




  About This Vehicle…

Driven 212,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Green · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Diesel
23.0 MPG city · 29.0 MPG highway · 25.0 MPG combined


  Typical Features…

*
  Moon Roof
*
  Alloy Wheels
*
  6-Cyl, Diesel, 3.0 Liter
*
  ABS
*


  Seller's description…

1995 Mercedes E300D. Turbo diesel. Can be used for parts or repair. 
Currently does not start. Engine turns. Do not know what is wrong wit it. 
It ran out of diesel, but I did not run when I bought it. Mechanic 
special. Sold As Is. Need to be towed from my house. Clean title on hand.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I avoid any LG product ever since I had purchased a Kenmore Elite frig that 
was made for them by LG. Interior latches broke because the springs were to 
stiff. Roller wheels shafts broke from their mountings. The last straw was 
when the interior light didn't shut off when the door was closed, got so hot 
that the plastic bezel and lamp mounted deformed and melted. Oh and they had 
to send me money every year because them fibbed about its energy usage.


I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better engineered 
than the LG, but only time will tell.


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 5:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Karl Wittnebel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

Well the new LG washer ate its drain pump. Lasted a couple years max. Of
course it probably did 5 million loads of Laundry during that time. I
wonder if it has a load counter on it.

LG has only one warehouse and its in AL. So we are without a washer until
next week. Kind of unbelievable given they sell the machines at Home Depot.
I should have just bought a pump on amazon prime.

On Thu, May 28, 2020, 8:51 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


 I've got an old coffee can, pot, jug, whatever you call a plastic thing
that once held a couple pounds of coffee. In that I separated the acid 
into
plastic sandwich bags so that if the humidity got to one it would only 
ruin

that bag. The whole thing is in the basement which is the worst humidity
room in the house ;)
Frankly I expected it to, as you say, fuse into a solid block but after 7
or 8 years (closer to 8 I think) its still fine.
-Curt

On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 10:46:28 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 Exactly. It’s cheap and does the job, and I don’t have to mess with
storing a big tub of it. Around here there’s a good chance it would
solidify into a giant block if not tightly sealed due to the humidity.

-D

> On May 28, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
> I bought 5# of citric acid on Amazon for like $20, 7 or 8 years ago for
cleaning lantern founts. A teaspoon full in a gallon of water makes a good
de-rusting agent. Ought to clean your washer too as the active ingredient
in your lemonade is citric acid.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 9:36:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> Karl,
>
> I get the boxes of 10 “sticks” of sugar free lemonade mix at WalMart and
use 5 of them in the washing machine. I’ve got a top loader that has a 
“tub
clean” mode, so I dump them in the tub, shut the lid and turn it to that. 
A

couple hours later it’s done and the insides are now lemony fresh!
>
> I do the same in the Bosch dishwasher, too.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 26, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >
> > How many scoops per load? And how much goes in the radiator?
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 9:52 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I buy generic “Kool-Aid” lemonade and use it to run cleaning cycles
on the
> >> dishwasher and washing machine.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Taildraggers

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Fun pass time. I live outside of Waynesville, Ohio and every year they have 
a tail dragger meet and pancake breakfast, which I try to attend each year. 
It take place at a grass airfield called "Red Field" just outside of the 
town. I will see if I can find a few photos from past meets. All tail 
dragger airplanes.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
1985 300CD non-drivable :(

-Original Message- 
From: Mountain Man via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 7:55 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Mountain Man
Subject: [MBZ] Taildraggers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KKtLIuitB4

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Re: [MBZ] CDI fixer-upper

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Max saw this on COPART web site the other day.

 
https://www.copart.com/lot/44829300/clean-title-2014-mercedes-benz-glk-250-bluetec-ma-north-boston

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From: Max Dillon via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] CDI fixer-upper

Well then I need to get busy and fix then sell my old '95 E300.  Needs new 
front ball joints, evap-ectomy, front left fender replaced and painted, maybe 
some other repair that I've forgotten.  I have all the parts and materials, 
just need to make the time.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Aug 16, 2020 1:18:54 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :

> On Sun, August 16, 2020 1:10 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> So the used market low end is crazy around here, apparently.
> 
> The low end worker pool is coming off 4 months of unprecedented welfare
> payments, combined with 'screw the rent, we won't let them evict you'.
> 
> So ATVs, boats, brand new brodozers if they can get financing with a
> Trumpbux down payment, and sub $5k used cars have gone crazy, along with
> the firearms market.
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1998 Mercedes E320 Stationwagon Silver

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

With clear title, you should be able to order keys or tumbler through any 
Mercedes dealers parts department. I had to ordered a new switch tumbler for 
my 1995 E300D when it jammed and I couldn't install the key and turn to the 
extraction position. Took a bit but completed the repairs and continued 
driving for another year or so.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 10:51 AM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Bob Rentfro
Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: 1998 Mercedes E320 Stationwagon Silver

How does one go about getting keys from Mercedes? I wonder if this thing is 
worth a $500 gamble?


Bob R

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1998 Mercedes E320 Stationwagon Silver

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

300CD Turbos started in 1982 thru 1985. 123 body ceased after 1985.

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 2:59 PM
To: Mercedes List
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Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe

I can’t ever remember seeing an NA before

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Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe

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Re: [MBZ] I don't thank so.... 2015 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 300D Sedan 4D, $7, 950

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Looks a lot like my 1995 300D with the side fender intake point

B Massmann
Oregonia, Oh

-Original Message- 
From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 3:49 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: [MBZ] I don't thank so 2015 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 300D Sedan 
4D, $7, 950


Although it does look nice

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3667219923357159/?ref=search_code=undefined

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[MBZ] My first car

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

My first car was a 1968 Camaro, looked a lot like this on bring a trailer. Mine 
had 327 V8 with factory four speed. Paint was a light metallic green. It also 
had the SS detail package with factory gauge package. Bought it when I was in 
the Navy in 1972. It had been wrenched at some point. Only sold it for about 
2500. Would be worth a lot more now, if only I new. Replaced it with Mazda RX-3 
wagon, because I was fly radio control gliders, which was kind of hard to 
transport in two door coup.

See link below.

(Lot #42,596) 
(https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-chevrolet-camaro-75/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2021-02-02)
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Re: [MBZ] Car Maintenance Log App

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Yes, I do not live far from there. Do not visit very often, but have been 
there. It is only about 6 miles form my house. Originally lived in 
Wilmington and move to my current address about 13 years ago. Love it out in 
the country!


Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Oh

-Original Message- 
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 12:53 PM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car Maintenance Log App

You’re not far from Fort Ancient, a park that we visited regularly when I 
was a child. Lots of good memories there.


-D

On Feb 11, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I use an excell sheet to track my fuel and maintenance for each car I 
drive. I have extra columns for keeping track of when I need to do several 
of the regular maintenances as oil change  and fuel and oil filters. I 
also track miles per gallon trend total gallons used along total fuel 
purchases. See attached graphics screen capture.


Regards,

B Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio



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Re: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 1990 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have a 87 190D with a 2.5 L turbo in it. I wonder if that would swap into 
it. The 190 has been sitting a long time and had been totaled, when it had 
gotten rear ended. Not quite sure why I still have it or kept it in the 
first place.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 11:52 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: [MBZ] suddenly the engine locked at idle without any noises 1990 
Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel - $1, 200 (Salisbury NC)


https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-1990-mercedes-300d-turbodiesel/7308260925.html

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Re: [MBZ] '95 diesel on BAT

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

And to think that I sold mine for $700, but mine needed a lot of TLC and in 
had almost 750,000 KM on the clock. As I remember it was still getting 31-32 
mpg. It was a very comfortable car unlike the BMW X3 that I am driving now 
that has a very stiff suspension. I also have a BMW 525I that is a very 
comfortable ride in comparison. All of which I hope to replace with a newer 
diesel Mercedes?


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 2:07 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Subject: [MBZ] '95 diesel on BAT

This could be interesting.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-mercedes-benz-e300-diesel-17/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2021-04-15
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[MBZ] Nice SL 500 hard Top

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

1991 Mercedes-Benz 500 SL - Cars & Trucks - Cincinnati | Facebook Marketplace | 
Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/194251678779094

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe somebody needs this

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

This showed up in the similar list, at half the price

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/281799176806340

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 10:58 AM 
To: Mercedes Discussion List ; davesl...@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Maybe somebody needs this 


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/271486687928438/


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Re: [MBZ] Made it back with the CD

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Especially with ice. Did you see the pileup on I-35 in Fort Worth. It was a 
real mess,  6 deaths!


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 6:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Buggered Benzmail
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Made it back with the CD

It can get bad out there in the winter

--FT
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On Feb 11, 2021, at 5:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Rolled back into Okie Acres a little while ago with the CD. After picking 
it up Sunday I worked in Lubbock for the next couple of days and left 
Wednesday morning.  Most of the time I was there the temps were in the 
70's.  When we left of course there was freezing fog all the way thru west 
texas.  Temp never got over about 25 and on roads that are normally 80mpg 
we were averaging about 60-65, so it took quite a while longer.  We 
stopped at the half way point for the night and finished the trip today.



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Re: [MBZ] Car Maintenance Log App

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Yes I am. BSME 1977 from Ohio Northern University. Worked large machine tool 
industry throughout my career. Most of my time was spent with Cincinnati 
Milacron. Finally retired in in 2020.


I could create a stripped version of the excell file if needed, might take a 
day or two?


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 3:18 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Rick Knoble
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car Maintenance Log App

That is sweet. I can make one, put it on Dropbox, Google drive, or Microsoft 
cloud, and Bob's my uncle, no pun intended. BTW, are you an engineer?


Thank you!

Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: February 11, 2021 10:30 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car Maintenance Log App

I use an excell sheet to track my fuel and maintenance for each car I drive.
I have extra columns for keeping track of when I need to do several of the
regular maintenances as oil change  and fuel and oil filters. I also track
miles per gallon trend total gallons used along total fuel purchases. See
attached graphics screen capture.

Regards,

B Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: G Mann via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 2:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: G Mann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car Maintenance Log App

I use the written log book method.
Short of a car fire, it is always available and in the car.
I find the bound composition books [dollar store has them for a buck] works
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[MBZ] Mercedes 1978 300CD local to me

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have my own. but maybe someone else may be interested. Listed on Facebook 
market place Dayton Ohio. 
“https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1630438840494221”

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
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[MBZ] Don't see these too often, 1978 300CD

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have my own 1985. but maybe someone else may be interested.

Listed on Facebook market place Dayton Ohio.

“https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1630438840494221”

Bob Massmann
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[MBZ] Nice looking 240D for sale in the Dayton, Ohio area

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Just thought someone might be interested on Facebook Market Place?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/255506636476130

Regards,

Bob Massmann
1985 300CD
1982 300D
1981 VW Pickup
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[MBZ] Merry Christmas Greeting

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New to all on the Diesel Exchange

>From the Massmanns
Oregonia, Ohio
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Re: [MBZ] Old people problems

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I think I am due next year, I have the gen and I have them once every three 
years. Do not remember much of anything afterwards?


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 10:56 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List ; okiet...@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] Old people problems

It’s that season of life, tomorrow morning is colonoscopy time. For the 
other old farts on this list, I’m sure you know how today will be going for 
me.


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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

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My neighbor had a red 1966 covetable, I didn't get to ride in it but it was 
a very nice looking car.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 8:59 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

Would be worth at least $70K with an original Becker radio

On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 7:42 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:


Yes, you'd look good cruising in that!

On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 6:27 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 1965 Mercedes Benz 230SL
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Re: [MBZ] The scam that is ebay

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Kaleb,

Several years ago, I purchased a car from boatangel ministers, I was the 
second highest bidder and the winning bidder reneged on the deal. The 
sellers gave me and asked if I want to purchase the vehicle as the second 
highest bidder. I am not sure what they did to accomplish this, but I ended 
up with the car at my original bid amount. Just for your info, not sure how 
things are handled these days.


Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 12:34 PM
To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes ; davesl...@okiebenz.com ; Floyd Thursby via 
Okietalk

Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] The scam that is ebay

So ran this ML again which ended last night at over $3k.  Just like the
first time, no response from high bidder.  It has not yet been 24 hours
but I am not holding my breath.  After doing a little research on the
ebay forums, come to find out, in vehicle auctions the deadbeat bidder
does not even get an unpaid item strike as they consider these auctions
non binding.  WTF?  There is absolutely no way to hold these buyers
accountable at all.  Not only that, you have to pay each time to relist
it.  Maybe this is a sign I should just keep the thing, or maybe try a
listing instead of an auction.


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[MBZ] Mercedes Near me

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I saw this listed in Facebook Market Place. Maybe someone may be interested? I 
was thinking about but not quite sure I would be up to the repair job. There 
may be more damage than he is saying. Pistons and valve need to stay out of 
each others way or bad things happen on some engine design. Not sure if this is 
the case?

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/675693720086307



2010 Mercedes GL 350 Bluetec



About This Vehicle

Driven 128,444 miles

Automatic transmission

Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Beige

Fuel type: Diesel

17.0 MPG city · 23.0 MPG highway · 19.0 MPG combined

This vehicle is paid off



Seller's Description

Diesel engine, timing chain jumped, and broke the camshaft. Needs upper engine 
work. 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Near me

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I completed an engine swap on a 2002 BMW 525i that I had bought in an 
auction, replacement was sold as a running engine out of a 325 series car. I 
guess, I got most everything done right. Have been driving it for at least 5 
years now. No issues with the replacement engine. Previous engine had 
coolant leak into the oil and the car sat for about 6 months, cam was badly 
rusted on top.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 3:53 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Near me

Needs a new engine, would be lots of work to sort out what's in there,
and worse since you don't know what happened to it.  Be easier to just
drop in a replacement if you could find one from a knacker.  Price is
too high though for a car with a bad engine.

I also see this

Old Cotton Warehouse
$59,000

listed https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3136855109966003 below
that ad, I need to move to Midville, GA and take all my cars and
impedimenta with me.  It's actually not too far from where I am now.
Looks like there might be a place to live in it too!  WOOOWOOO!

--FT


On 12/10/21 3:28 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:
I saw this listed in Facebook Market Place. Maybe someone may be 
interested? I was thinking about but not quite sure I would be up to the 
repair job. There may be more damage than he is saying. Pistons and valve 
need to stay out of each others way or bad things happen on some engine 
design. Not sure if this is the case?


Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/675693720086307



2010 Mercedes GL 350 Bluetec



About This Vehicle

Driven 128,444 miles

Automatic transmission

Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Beige

Fuel type: Diesel

17.0 MPG city · 23.0 MPG highway · 19.0 MPG combined

This vehicle is paid off



Seller's Description

Diesel engine, timing chain jumped, and broke the camshaft. Needs upper 
engine work.

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[MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I am starting to look for my next Mercedes as I had sold my 1995 E300D because 
is was getting harder to maintain and had close to 500,000 miles. I am looking 
at the ML series 2014-2015. I would like to get back to a diesel car but it is 
not necessary. Just wondering what the better option would be? I do like to 
camp so it currently am towing small popup camper, but may upgrade to larger 
enclosed trailer at some point. I only looked at one vehicle thus far a 2015 
ML350, it has less than 100,000 miles and has most of the options. They are 
asking 19,700 for it.

So if anyone have opinions on my search, please chime in. Not in a real big 
hurry, but would like to do something sooner than later.

I would trade or sell the 2004 BMW X3 that I am currently driving.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Southwestern Ohio
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have a 2012 Diesel version about 50 miles from me. May try to go down and 
look and drive it today if they are open. Seems like a nice looking car from 
the photos, but the tires and brakes may need to be addressed.


https://jeffwylerflorencehonda.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-04360aaa0a0e09af26b5cff9870c3e59.htm

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

2004 BMW X3
2002 BMW 525i

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 5:34 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

I did seller for CARFAX report since the car had a dealer tag on it.

-Original Message- 
From: Allan Streib via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 5:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Allan Streib
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Maybe. Sometimes in a photo, shadows and reflections can look like dents --
that said, if you're shopping for 8-10 year old cars it is going to be rare
to find one without a ding or scratch somewhere.

Good question about the engine cover, maybe removed for the photo but
certainly would be a question for the seller.



On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:

When I went back and looked over the photos again, it looked like there
might be a ding in the bumper drivers side. I also would be lire with 
engine

compartment missing all its cover?

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Southwestern Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Allan Streib via Mercedes

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 1:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Allan Streib
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

It's a Blutec, so it has a DPF, I don't know if it's possible to evaluate
the condition of those but that would be my concern if everything else
checks out. If it got regular long-ish highway trips it probably had
adequate opportunity for the "regen" cycles to complete. If it was used
mostly for in-town, short trips I'd be more cautious.

Then you need to consider *your* driving routine. If this is a car that 
will

mostly be driven short trips for shopping and work maybe diesel isn't the
best option. If you'll be doing regular longer fast highway runs, it could
be great.

Allan

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:

I found this one about 50 miles from me in Columbus Ohio. Need to see a
CARFAX report before I look?

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-2013-mercedes-benz-ml350/7421132068.html

2004 BMW X3
2002 BMW 525i
1982 Mercedes 300D none running
1985 Mercedes 300CD none running

-Original Message----- 
From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 8:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

I am starting to look for my next Mercedes as I had sold my 1995 E300D
because is was getting harder to maintain and had close to 500,000 miles.
I
am looking at the ML series 2014-2015. I would like to get back to a
diesel
car but it is not necessary. Just wondering what the better option would
be?
I do like to camp so it currently am towing small popup camper, but may
upgrade to larger enclosed trailer at some point. I only looked at one
vehicle thus far a 2015 ML350, it has less than 100,000 miles and has 
most

of the options. They are asking 19,700 for it.

So if anyone have opinions on my search, please chime in. Not in a real
big
hurry, but would like to do something sooner than later.

I would trade or sell the 2004 BMW X3 that I am currently driving.

Regards,

Bob Massmann
Southwestern Ohio
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I will be picking up the 2012 Mercedes ML350 diesel tomorrow. So it should 
be interesting learning with the new car. It has many new features that the 
X3 or my previous 1995 Mercedes E300D didn't have, so it will be a bit of a 
learning curve. I will get a nice initial drive in it, with a 120 mile trip 
North this coming Sunday to visit with my mother in law.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 2:30 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

I am not sure, prices ranged were from 18K - 23K. There also weren't as many
diesel version to choose from. Diesels may not have been as desirable and
were a little lower price. It is strange when looking at the cargurus web
page itwas listing at 18.5K,  but when I went to the dealer it was list at
24.5K with a heavy discount. There was a 2014 ML350 Bluetec that I was also
considering. It was listed at 21K with 119,000 miles on it. It was white and
I really do not like white.

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 11:29 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Geez that seems like crack pricing but what do I know?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 11, 2022, at 8:59 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Well I purchased the 2012 ML350 Blue that I went to look at on Sunday. 
Market is not in favor of the buyer. I paid 20,000 for it which included 
all of the taxes, title, and plate fees. The good news the car only has 
86,000 miles. The last Mercedes I purchased had 240K. We will see how it 
goes will picking the car up this Friday or next Monday. Depending on my 
funds transfer for purchase this week.


Wish me luck with my newer Mercedes. I hope all goes well? Will be a whole 
new learning experience.


Regards,
Robert Massmann


I now what the tires may be as I just put tires on the X3 a year or so ago 
and it was 800 for the tires and another for mounting, balance, and 
alignment. More option for bargaining I would hope


From: Andrew Strasfogel
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2022 10:46 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Massmann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Looks nice, but for that price on a 10 y.o. SUV way out of warranty the 
dealer should include new tires and brakes.



On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 10:35 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 I have a 2012 Diesel version about 50 miles from me. May try to go down 
and
 look and drive it today if they are open. Seems like a nice looking car 
from

 the photos, but the tires and brakes may need to be addressed.


https://jeffwylerflorencehonda.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-04360aaa0a0e09af26b5cff9870c3e59.htm









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Re: [MBZ] Class Action Suit relating to Bluetec issues?

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I may have read that Mercedes had to update emission software similar to the 
issue VW had, only not to the extent that VW did.


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 12:02 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Randy Bennell
Subject: [MBZ] Class Action Suit relating to Bluetec issues?

Is there a class action suit against Mercedes relating to the Bluetec
vehicles in the USA?

The fellow that I had posted about a month or so ago in British Columbia
who was having all sorts of issues with his, has just received notice
that some of his issues will be addressed due to the settlement of a
class action suit in Canada.

He is not impressed and says he will likely not purchase any more Mercedes.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Would still like to get the 1985 300CD that I have back on the road. Stopped 
driving due need for and engine rebuild. Maybe one of these since I have 
retired.

Bob Massmann

From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 10:57 AM
To: Robert Massmann 
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Way to step up Robert. These are awesome cars, among the best Mercedes ever 
made.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 9:59 AM  wrote:

  Well I purchased the 2012 ML350 Blue that I went to look at on Sunday. Market 
is not in favor of the buyer. I paid 20,000 for it which included all of the 
taxes, title, and plate fees. The good news the car only has 86,000 miles. The 
last Mercedes I purchased had 240K. We will see how it goes will picking the 
car up this Friday or next Monday. Depending on my funds transfer for purchase 
this week.

  Wish me luck with my newer Mercedes. I hope all goes well? Will be a whole 
new learning experience.

  Regards,
  Robert Massmann  


  I now what the tires may be as I just put tires on the X3 a year or so ago 
and it was 800 for the tires and another for mounting, balance, and alignment. 
More option for bargaining I would hope

  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
  Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2022 10:46 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
  Cc: Robert Massmann 
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

  Looks nice, but for that price on a 10 y.o. SUV way out of warranty the 
dealer should include new tires and brakes.


  On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 10:35 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I have a 2012 Diesel version about 50 miles from me. May try to go down and 
look and drive it today if they are open. Seems like a nice looking car 
from 
the photos, but the tires and brakes may need to be addressed.


https://jeffwylerflorencehonda.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-04360aaa0a0e09af26b5cff9870c3e59.htm

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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I am not sure, prices ranged were from 18K - 23K. There also weren't as many 
diesel version to choose from. Diesels may not have been as desirable and 
were a little lower price. It is strange when looking at the cargurus web 
page itwas listing at 18.5K,  but when I went to the dealer it was list at 
24.5K with a heavy discount. There was a 2014 ML350 Bluetec that I was also 
considering. It was listed at 21K with 119,000 miles on it. It was white and 
I really do not like white.


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 11:29 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Geez that seems like crack pricing but what do I know?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 11, 2022, at 8:59 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Well I purchased the 2012 ML350 Blue that I went to look at on Sunday. 
Market is not in favor of the buyer. I paid 20,000 for it which included 
all of the taxes, title, and plate fees. The good news the car only has 
86,000 miles. The last Mercedes I purchased had 240K. We will see how it 
goes will picking the car up this Friday or next Monday. Depending on my 
funds transfer for purchase this week.


Wish me luck with my newer Mercedes. I hope all goes well? Will be a whole 
new learning experience.


Regards,
Robert Massmann


I now what the tires may be as I just put tires on the X3 a year or so ago 
and it was 800 for the tires and another for mounting, balance, and 
alignment. More option for bargaining I would hope


From: Andrew Strasfogel
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2022 10:46 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Massmann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Looks nice, but for that price on a 10 y.o. SUV way out of warranty the 
dealer should include new tires and brakes.



On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 10:35 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 I have a 2012 Diesel version about 50 miles from me. May try to go down 
and
 look and drive it today if they are open. Seems like a nice looking car 
from

 the photos, but the tires and brakes may need to be addressed.


https://jeffwylerflorencehonda.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-04360aaa0a0e09af26b5cff9870c3e59.htm









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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

All I had a very nice ride home, but was a bit nervous drive my brand new car 
in track. The new car does have the vehicle collision avoidance warning 
indication for changing lanes which is nice. It has navigation, heated seats, 
retractable side mirrors, and other things that I have not discovered yet. The 
bad news is NO operators manual. It is no where to be found, unless it has a 
special storage compartment that I haven’t found. I did find a PDF copy of it 
on MBUSA web site, I have downloaded and am starting to review. Will let you 
know how things are going after I have driven it for awhile. Have schedule a 
general car inspection at our local Mercedes dealer to make sure there are no 
issue with the car,  fingers crossed. This car requires DEF, so should be 
interesting to see how often that needs to be refilled. Car has a little over 
86,000 miles on it.

Hope all goes well?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 Bluetec 86K  

From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 9:42 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Robert, please monitor your fuel economy and post it.

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022, 10:28 PM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

  I will be picking up the 2012 Mercedes ML350 diesel tomorrow. So it should 
  be interesting learning with the new car. It has many new features that the 
  X3 or my previous 1995 Mercedes E300D didn't have, so it will be a bit of a 
  learning curve. I will get a nice initial drive in it, with a 120 mile trip 
  North this coming Sunday to visit with my mother in law.

  Bob Massmann
  Oregonia, Ohio

  -Original Message- 
  From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 2:30 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

  I am not sure, prices ranged were from 18K - 23K. There also weren't as many
  diesel version to choose from. Diesels may not have been as desirable and
  were a little lower price. It is strange when looking at the cargurus web
  page itwas listing at 18.5K,  but when I went to the dealer it was list at
  24.5K with a heavy discount. There was a 2014 ML350 Bluetec that I was also
  considering. It was listed at 21K with 119,000 miles on it. It was white and
  I really do not like white.

  Bob Massmann

  -Original Message- 
  From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 11:29 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: Kaleb Striplin
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

  Geez that seems like crack pricing but what do I know?

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On Jan 11, 2022, at 8:59 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
  >  wrote:
  >
  > Well I purchased the 2012 ML350 Blue that I went to look at on Sunday. 
  > Market is not in favor of the buyer. I paid 20,000 for it which included 
  > all of the taxes, title, and plate fees. The good news the car only has 
  > 86,000 miles. The last Mercedes I purchased had 240K. We will see how it 
  > goes will picking the car up this Friday or next Monday. Depending on my 
  > funds transfer for purchase this week.
  >
  > Wish me luck with my newer Mercedes. I hope all goes well? Will be a whole 
  > new learning experience.
  >
  > Regards,
  > Robert Massmann
  >
  >
  > I now what the tires may be as I just put tires on the X3 a year or so ago 
  > and it was 800 for the tires and another for mounting, balance, and 
  > alignment. More option for bargaining I would hope
  >
  > From: Andrew Strasfogel
  > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2022 10:46 AM
  > To: Mercedes Discussion List
  > Cc: Robert Massmann
  > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes
  >
  > Looks nice, but for that price on a 10 y.o. SUV way out of warranty the 
  > dealer should include new tires and brakes.
  >
  >
  > On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 10:35 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
  >  wrote:
  >
  >  I have a 2012 Diesel version about 50 miles from me. May try to go down 
  > and
  >  look and drive it today if they are open. Seems like a nice looking car 
  > from
  >  the photos, but the tires and brakes may need to be addressed.
  >
  >
  > 
https://jeffwylerflorencehonda.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-04360aaa0a0e09af26b5cff9870c3e59.htm
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I miss his words of wisdom. “There is only one way to drive a Mercedes like you 
stole it!”

Bob Massmann 

From: Rick Knoble 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 11:15 AM
To: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

> I would like to get a hitch on it to tow our popup camper.The trailer wiring 
> is going to be an issue. The computer that controls the lighting (EVERYTHING 
> is controlled by a computer on that SUV) is not going to like any changes. It 
> would be best to inquire about that on the main list. I know NOTHING about 
> Mercedes newer than 2008 or so. Geeze. The caps look like I'm channelling 
> Marshall Booth. Enjoy!
Rick
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[MBZ] My ML350 Bluetec Oil Cooler Seal Repair update

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Yes I am still trying to finish the oil cooler seal replacement on my new to me 
2012 ML350 diesel. I have the turbo back in and have to finish up connecting 
the exhaust down pipe to the back of the turbo. I may have to take the car to 
the dealer or a European indy to compete the second step after torqueing the 
(3) screws to ( 20 NM). Step two is tightening the screws and additional ( 90 
degs ). These screws face the engine bulkhead and is under engine shielding. 
The top (2) are sort accessible but  third is on the bottom with very little 
access. Matter of fact I dropped the third screw and still need to find it. 
Below is the link to where been posting most of my photos of this project.

Things to Complete list
1) Install O2 probe at elbow of exhaust pipe
2) Install new CCV valve assembly
3) Install fuel rail to fuel rail connection line
4) Double check that all fuel injector supply nuts have been torqued
5) Install new fuel filter ( I will prefill filter with fuel )
6) Install charge air from turbo to front of engine and turbo intercooler
7) Reinstall injector return fuel line
8) Install air intake assembly that connects to the turbo. ( I purchased new 
seal for this joint )
9) Install all remaining electrical connectors
10) Install rear shield located behind turbo
11) Install new inlet air filters, left & right
12) Install the rest of the engine shielding
13) double check that all electrical and mechanical items
14) Install coolant that was drained from engine
15) test start engine ( May take several tries as fuel lines need to be 
recharged )


Link to Oil cooler seal replacement project: 
https://mbworld.org/forums/m-class-w166/834751-2012-ml350-blutec-oil-cooler-leak-repair.html

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 Bluetec 87,000 miles
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Re: [MBZ] My ML350 Bluetec Oil Cooler Seal Repair update

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

And to top it off. Somewhere along the repair process I broke the tee 
fitting on the injector fuel return line, darn! Mercedes only sells the 
whole assembly and the fitting I broke isn't available. Tried to get the 
broken piece out of the hose even that I haven't able to remove it yet from 
the hose?


Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT

-Original Message- 
From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2022 11:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Buggered Benzmail
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My ML350 Bluetec Oil Cooler Seal Repair update

I applaud your efforts. Not an easy job.

--FT
Sent from iFōn

On Mar 4, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Yes I am still trying to finish the oil cooler seal replacement on my new 
to me 2012 ML350 diesel. I have the turbo back in and have to finish up 
connecting the exhaust down pipe to the back of the turbo. I may have to 
take the car to the dealer or a European indy to compete the second step 
after torqueing the (3) screws to ( 20 NM). Step two is tightening the 
screws and additional ( 90 degs ). These screws face the engine bulkhead 
and is under engine shielding. The top (2) are sort accessible but  third 
is on the bottom with very little access. Matter of fact I dropped the 
third screw and still need to find it. Below is the link to where been 
posting most of my photos of this project.


Things to Complete list
1) Install O2 probe at elbow of exhaust pipe
2) Install new CCV valve assembly
3) Install fuel rail to fuel rail connection line
4) Double check that all fuel injector supply nuts have been torqued
5) Install new fuel filter ( I will prefill filter with fuel )
6) Install charge air from turbo to front of engine and turbo intercooler
7) Reinstall injector return fuel line
8) Install air intake assembly that connects to the turbo. ( I purchased 
new seal for this joint )

9) Install all remaining electrical connectors
10) Install rear shield located behind turbo
11) Install new inlet air filters, left & right
12) Install the rest of the engine shielding
13) double check that all electrical and mechanical items
14) Install coolant that was drained from engine
15) test start engine ( May take several tries as fuel lines need to be 
recharged )



Link to Oil cooler seal replacement project: 
https://mbworld.org/forums/m-class-w166/834751-2012-ml350-blutec-oil-cooler-leak-repair.html


Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 Bluetec 87,000 miles
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Re: [MBZ] Out for Delivery?

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I was a bit disappointed in FedEx. I was expecting a package delivery on 
Friday, which didn't arrive. Received notice that it would be delivered on 
Saturday, did not get delivered! It now is Monday, with a new notification 
of it to be delivered today by 8:00 pm. It wouldn't be so bad but for some 
reason it is indicating that a signature is required?


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
2012 ML350 BT

-Original Message- 
From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, March 14, 2022 8:16 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: dan penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Out for Delivery?

Uh, DHL is essentially the German Post Office.

-D

On Mar 13, 2022, at 10:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


I thought DHL had gone out of business.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 9:36 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

USPS here is perfect, I couldn't ask for better. I should ask our postman
his name, I usually refer to him as "The one eyed kid", you can probably
guess why.

If there are packages he comes around in the morning with a truck. He
walks the route in the afternoon with the envelopes.

-Curt


On Sunday, March 13, 2022, 07:48:42 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

USPS is a total crap shoot here. If it gets as close as a neighbor's
house, I consider myself fortunate.


On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
Our Amazon drivers seem to be the best of the bunch around here - they
always leave the package where I specified - on the shelf beside the
front
door. UPS and Fedex are all over the place, including once leaving my box
at the intersection between our street and the joining one - 400 feet
from
our driveway. Amazon and USPS do the best, most consistent job here in
the
sticks.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 3:17 PM mitch--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

Amazon drivers tend towards the sketchier end of the spectrum, somewhere
near pizza drivers.

Anyway, before there were such a thing as Amazon drivers, I pulled the
mower into the garage to find an Amazon box on the floor. Turned out to
be addressed to the neighbor.
Their mailbox doesn't say 519 on it, but mine was very clearly marked
515.
She'd already applied for a refund, after searching her garage, porch,
everywhere the package that was 'delivered to garage' could possibly be
hiding. I'm guessing it was Fedex Ground that did that.

On 2022-03-13 16:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
Yeah, that’s been a thing for some of the security automation for a
while. I’ve got a system (“MyQ”) I can monitor and control all of my
garage doors both in Florida and Flagstaff with and it has the ability
to give Amazon and others a one-time code to get in and drop off
packages. I could see it being of value if you had something large or
if you had issues with porch pirates, but I’ve never felt the need to
use it at this point.



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Re: [MBZ] motor knocking still runs 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 CDI Sedan 4D, $2, 500

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I had purchased a project car 1982 300D from someone that didn't have timer 
top complete it. Previous owner had bought engine and interior parts from a 
downer car, I got the complete package. Long story to the short, got the 
engine swapped. The I dismantled the engine with the bad knock. Found the 
the number (1) piston connecting rod bearing wore out. Whom ever had the 
car, must have driven it a long time like that, because the bearing was 
completely gone.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio
2012 ML350 BT

-Original Message- 
From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 4:25 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: dan penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] motor knocking still runs 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 
320 CDI Sedan 4D, $2, 500


Black Death.

-D

On Mar 18, 2022, at 4:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


What could that be?  Injector?  Internals?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1353209435193614

--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] motor knocking still runs 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 CDI Sedan 4D, $2, 500

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

The package included a second engine, which I installed and then started 
driving, although I seem to remember that the transmission had to be replaced 
as well. I suppose one of these days I should try and rebuild the original 
engine and put it back in the car it came from. Retired, but that doesn’t 
really mean I have the time to put that in motion at the moment.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
Oregonia, Ohio


From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 7:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] motor knocking still runs 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 
CDI Sedan 4D, $2, 500

And then what did you do?


On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 7:01 PM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

  I had purchased a project car 1982 300D from someone that didn't have timer 
  top complete it. Previous owner had bought engine and interior parts from a 
  downer car, I got the complete package. Long story to the short, got the 
  engine swapped. The I dismantled the engine with the bad knock. Found the 
  the number (1) piston connecting rod bearing wore out. Whom ever had the 
  car, must have driven it a long time like that, because the bearing was 
  completely gone.

  Bob Massmann
  Oregonia, Ohio
  2012 ML350 BT

  -Original Message- 
  From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 4:25 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: dan penoff.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] motor knocking still runs 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 
  320 CDI Sedan 4D, $2, 500

  Black Death.

  -D

  > On Mar 18, 2022, at 4:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  >  wrote:
  >
  > What could that be?  Injector?  Internals?
  >
  > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1353209435193614
  >
  > -- 
  > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Andrew,

It will be interesting to see what they would say. My ML350 BT is covered by an 
extended warranty due pollution control settlement agreed upon by the EPA and 
Justice Dept . Any Bluetec diesel from 2009-2016 (OM 642 & OM 651) models are 
covered by the extended warranty, link to the warranty document is below. My ML 
350 had the pollution control updates completed just last December. So all the 
pollution control equipment will be covered for (4) years or 48,000 miles, 
whichever occurs first. It was interesting, I went back and reviewed the CARFAX 
report and there was now mention of the pollution control update when it was 
serviced at a Mercedes dealer in Kentucky just before it was put up for sale by 
Jeff Wyler outside Cincinnati.

It should be interesting to see, if I can get reimbursed for the CCV valve ( 
$160 item ) that I am replacing during my oil cooler leak fix, it is the last 
item in the list that is covered by the extended warranty. 

warranty-extension-covered-components.pdf (mbusa.com)



Bob Massmann

2012 ML350 BT


From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 12:20 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Might want to share this info with MBNA.


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 12:08 PM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

  Photos of the soot that was collected from my 2012 ML. I would guess that 
  the crankcase vent was not performing very well making the soot very sticky. 
  First photo is what was collected from the left intake manifold, air/EGR 
  mixer box after throttle body, and then the right intake manifold. Just for 
  grins I combined and weighted the material, 1.5 oz short of a full lb. I 
  will be replacing the PVC assembly when I start putting things back 
  together.

  Regards,

  Bob Massmann
  2012 ML350 BT

  -Original Message- 
  From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes
  Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 1:03 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

  Here are more photos of repair progress. I am currently in the cleaning
  process oil and soot buildup in the air intakes and mixer assembly after the
  intercooler. This is a very messy part of the job!

  Bob Massmann
  2012 ML 350 BT

  -Original Message- 
  From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 3:49 PM
  To: Okie Benz
  Cc: dan penoff.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

  Makes me glad I have older, simpler cars.

  -D

  > On Feb 16, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes
  >  wrote:
  >
  > This of the engine bay of my ML. Lots of stuff. Things that need to be
  > removed to get at the buried oil cooler.
  >
  > 1) left and right air filters
  > 2) engine bay shielding
  > 3) intake plenum with mass flow sensors
  > 4) tube from turbo to intercooler
  > 5) air intake mixing chamber assembly
  > 6) fuel filter
  > 7) fuel interconnection tube
  > 8) turbo
  > 9) Turbo rizer
  > 10) EGR flap servo
  > 11) Right intake manifold
  > 12) left intake manifold ( I was thinking of trying to leave it alone, but
  > it may need to be cleaned as well )
  >
  > With all that the oil cooler should be accessible?
  >
  > Not sure if I missed anything. I am just on step 8 currently, I have one
  > more screw to remove.
  >
  > -Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
  > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 4:09 PM
  > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  > Cc: Floyd Thursby
  > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )
  >
  > My $500 99E300 had a completely buggered up intake manifold and jammed
  > EGR, ran like sh*t.  An afternoon of cleaning got it running great.  Was
  > a fairly easy job on that car though.
  >
  > --FT
  >
  > On 2/15/22 2:46 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
  >> More an effect of emissions controls. In particular EGR. EGR reduces NOX
  >> emissions in diesels, but it makes a mess of the intake manifold. In
  >> manifolds with movable flaps, things get "interesting".
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I am wonder how that accumulation affect the performance of the pollution 
control and if it is still working effectively?


-Original Message- 
From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Buggered Benzmail
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

WOW!  That is crazy the amount of gunk in there.

--FT
Sent from iFōn

On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Well all I am in the process of trying to change the seals on my Ml 350 
BT. I am getting a good feel for why this is such and expensive repair job 
with limited access and the number of parts that need to be removed. In 
the process I have had to remove the air control assembly that delivers 
the intercooled air to the intake manifold. There is a larger amount of 
soot buildup the second photo came from the inlet of the intake manifold 
that I could reach and haven’t touched the assembly that is shown in photo 
1. I did see some oil in the inlet to the turbo intake side as well as the 
transferee tube to the intercooler. May just replace crankcase ventilation 
valve while I have things apart. The exterior of this valve is quite oily. 
Car has about 87K miles on it. I have three more screws to remove before I 
can remove the turbo, one of which I can not see.


Will try and give an update in a day or two.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT 87K







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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Assembled here in the USA!

Bob Massmann

From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Robert, is this a German or US made Bluetec SUV?


On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:15 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

  Well all I am in the process of trying to change the seals on my Ml 350 BT. I 
am getting a good feel for why this is such and expensive repair job with 
limited access and the number of parts that need to be removed. In the process 
I have had to remove the air control assembly that delivers the intercooled air 
to the intake manifold. There is a larger amount of soot buildup the second 
photo came from the inlet of the intake manifold that I could reach and haven’t 
touched the assembly that is shown in photo 1. I did see some oil in the inlet 
to the turbo intake side as well as the transferee tube to the intercooler. May 
just replace crankcase ventilation valve while I have things apart. The 
exterior of this valve is quite oily. Car has about 87K miles on it. I have 
three more screws to remove before I can remove the turbo, one of which I can 
not see.

  Will try and give an update in a day or two.

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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I believe I will being doing a lot of cleaning before things start going 
back together. I have seen, U tube videos of them burning the soot out of 
the intake manifolds, but fear that may warp things very badly. I will had 
scrap with solvents to try and clear it.


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 2:46 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Rick Knoble
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

More an effect of emissions controls. In particular EGR. EGR reduces NOX 
emissions in diesels, but it makes a mess of the intake manifold. In 
manifolds with movable flaps, things get "interesting".



Rick

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Sent: February 15, 2022 10:31 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: rbenn...@bennell.ca
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Is the soot the result of not driving it hard enough? Short trips, in
town etc.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I just purchased this the middle of January. I believe I am the third owner. 
If you average the mileage it was only drive approximately 8000-9000 miles 
per year.


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:31 AM
To: Robert Massmann via Mercedes
Cc: Randy Bennell
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Is the soot the result of not driving it hard enough? Short trips, in
town etc.

Randy

On 15/02/2022 10:14 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:
Well all I am in the process of trying to change the seals on my Ml 350 
BT. I am getting a good feel for why this is such and expensive repair job 
with limited access and the number of parts that need to be removed. In 
the process I have had to remove the air control assembly that delivers 
the intercooled air to the intake manifold. There is a larger amount of 
soot buildup the second photo came from the inlet of the intake manifold 
that I could reach and haven’t touched the assembly that is shown in photo 
1. I did see some oil in the inlet to the turbo intake side as well as the 
transferee tube to the intercooler. May just replace crankcase ventilation 
valve while I have things apart. The exterior of this valve is quite oily. 
Car has about 87K miles on it. I have three more screws to remove before I 
can remove the turbo, one of which I can not see.


Will try and give an update in a day or two.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT 87K




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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have working on it for about 4 days and may spend 4-5 hours each day. 
Spent about 2 hours to get one exhaust to manifold bolts out. I believe the 
tip threads were rusted being exposed to nature, slowly worked it out 
without braking it. Have one more screw before I can lift the turbo out. But 
need to buy an extended Torx to get to it.  The only place this soot or what 
ever it is, is coming fro the crankcase vent valve EGR system. I guess it is 
a mixture?


I think I should replace it ( PCV ) valve assembly?

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 12:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

The wife’s R320 has been sitting for 2 years waiting on me to work up the 
nerve to do this job.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Well all I am in the process of trying to change the seals on my Ml 350 
BT. I am getting a good feel for why this is such and expensive repair job 
with limited access and the number of parts that need to be removed. In 
the process I have had to remove the air control assembly that delivers 
the intercooled air to the intake manifold. There is a larger amount of 
soot buildup the second photo came from the inlet of the intake manifold 
that I could reach and haven’t touched the assembly that is shown in photo 
1. I did see some oil in the inlet to the turbo intake side as well as the 
transferee tube to the intercooler. May just replace crankcase ventilation 
valve while I have things apart. The exterior of this valve is quite oily. 
Car has about 87K miles on it. I have three more screws to remove before I 
can remove the turbo, one of which I can not see.


Will try and give an update in a day or two.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT 87K







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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I have used an extension to my ratchet on several of the bolts, but they 
were all at the turbo to exhaust connection.


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 3:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Rick Knoble
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Strong work!


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: February 15, 2022 10:15 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Well all I am in the process of trying to change the seals on my Ml 350 BT. 
I am getting a good feel for why this is such and expensive repair job with 
limited access and the number of parts that need to be removed. In the 
process I have had to remove the air control assembly that delivers the 
intercooled air to the intake manifold. There is a larger amount of soot 
buildup the second photo came from the inlet of the intake manifold that I 
could reach and haven’t touched the assembly that is shown in photo 1. I did 
see some oil in the inlet to the turbo intake side as well as the transferee 
tube to the intercooler. May just replace crankcase ventilation valve while 
I have things apart. The exterior of this valve is quite oily. Car has about 
87K miles on it. I have three more screws to remove before I can remove the 
turbo, one of which I can not see.


Will try and give an update in a day or two.

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT 87K
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Re: [MBZ] The Jewel

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

I wonder if you could swap in a 2.5 turbo engine from 87 190 that I have?

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 7:56 PM 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Bob Rentfro 
Subject: [MBZ] The Jewel 



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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

BSME, working as a machine tool designer and spindle design engineer for a 
major machine tool company in the Cincinnati area. Have always loved 
mechanical things and trying to figure out how they work and are put 
together. Happily retired in 2020 after 43 years in the industry.


Bob Massmann
ML350 BT

-Original Message- 
From: Curt Raymond

Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2022 10:42 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Solid work. I'm always impressed when a home gamer takes on one of these big 
jobs.


-Curt



On Saturday, February 19, 2022, 09:37:56 AM EST, Robert Massmann via 
Mercedes  wrote:


Well I have finally gotten to the oil cooler on my ML. Didn't break
anything, but only had trouble with one screw. It was part of the exhaust
fasteners and are one time use and need to be replaced. Currently before
removing the oil cooler I will cover the turbo stand position and clean all
the soot from the intake ports. I will be trying to clean intake manifolds
as well as the EGR assembly at the front of the engine after the
intercooler. The mixture of oil from the PCV valve and exhaust is a very
messy mix. Once the cleaning is complete, I will start putting things back
together. I have tried to put as many of the fasteners as I can back into
the same holes so I have them in their correct location.

Bob Massmann
ML350 BT

-Original Message- 
From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 1:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Buggered Benzmail
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Seriously ouch

--FT
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On Feb 18, 2022, at 12:50 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes
 wrote:

Mercedes Dealer gave me a quote of $3600 to complete the repair, ouch!

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 3:49 PM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: dan penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Makes me glad I have older, simpler cars.

-D


On Feb 16, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes
 wrote:

This of the engine bay of my ML. Lots of stuff. Things that need to be
removed to get at the buried oil cooler.

1) left and right air filters
2) engine bay shielding
3) intake plenum with mass flow sensors
4) tube from turbo to intercooler
5) air intake mixing chamber assembly
6) fuel filter
7) fuel interconnection tube
8) turbo
9) Turbo rizer
10) EGR flap servo
11) Right intake manifold
12) left intake manifold ( I was thinking of trying to leave it alone,
but it may need to be cleaned as well )

With all that the oil cooler should be accessible?

Not sure if I missed anything. I am just on step 8 currently, I have one
more screw to remove.

-Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 4:09 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

My $500 99E300 had a completely buggered up intake manifold and jammed
EGR, ran like sh*t.  An afternoon of cleaning got it running great.  Was
a fairly easy job on that car though.

--FT


On 2/15/22 2:46 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
More an effect of emissions controls. In particular EGR. EGR reduces NOX
emissions in diesels, but it makes a mess of the intake manifold. In
manifolds with movable flaps, things get "interesting".


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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Mercedes Dealer gave me a quote of $3600 to complete the repair, ouch!

Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes

Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 3:49 PM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: dan penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Makes me glad I have older, simpler cars.

-D

On Feb 16, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


This of the engine bay of my ML. Lots of stuff. Things that need to be 
removed to get at the buried oil cooler.


1) left and right air filters
2) engine bay shielding
3) intake plenum with mass flow sensors
4) tube from turbo to intercooler
5) air intake mixing chamber assembly
6) fuel filter
7) fuel interconnection tube
8) turbo
9) Turbo rizer
10) EGR flap servo
11) Right intake manifold
12) left intake manifold ( I was thinking of trying to leave it alone, but 
it may need to be cleaned as well )


With all that the oil cooler should be accessible?

Not sure if I missed anything. I am just on step 8 currently, I have one 
more screw to remove.


-Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 4:09 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

My $500 99E300 had a completely buggered up intake manifold and jammed
EGR, ran like sh*t.  An afternoon of cleaning got it running great.  Was
a fairly easy job on that car though.

--FT

On 2/15/22 2:46 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
More an effect of emissions controls. In particular EGR. EGR reduces NOX 
emissions in diesels, but it makes a mess of the intake manifold. In 
manifolds with movable flaps, things get "interesting".


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Re: [MBZ] Sad

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

There was a photo of the engine bay. Was wondering how much of is could be 
used in my 85 300CD, that isn't running because of low compression?


Bob Massmann

-Original Message- 
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2022 12:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sad

I didn't see a photo of the engine bay to determine whether it's the
desirable 49 state version...

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 11:54 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, at 7:21 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

> If you'd been paying full coverage insurance on it for years, how much
> would you ask for when the insurance company wanted to total it?

I don't carry full coverage on a car worth a few thousand dollars, for
exactly that reason.


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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Well I had my new ML350 health checked today at the Mercedes dealer. On bad 
thing was found and I didn't really see it when I looked at the 
undercarriage. They say the seals of the oil cooler is leaking and is 
draining down the side of the engine to the undercarriage panels. I have 
looked at several YOUTUBE videos and it is a bit of work to complete. The 
oil cooler is located in the vee between the heads and many things on top of 
the engine need to be removed down to the 2 intake manifolds. Apparently 
this a weak point and the oil seal begin to flatten and leak due the higher 
operating temperature of the engine. So I will not be doing any long trips 
until this gets fixed. Mercedes wants $3600 do complete the repair, seals 
are only very small part of the cost. Between completing and engine swap on 
BMW 5 series and changing a starter on BMW X3 which required disconnecting 
the intake manifold, and replacing head gaskets, I think I should be able to 
complete the repair. Not the thing I wanted to hear, but better to know 
thank not to?


Bob Massmann
2012 Mercedes ML350 Bluetec 86K


-Original Message- 
From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 1:02 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Buggered Benzmail
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

If the car doesn’t have towing setup you will have to try to add the nanny 
and get a new controller happy. It is not easy. The brake and stability 
controllers and the lights will not be happy without the tow nanny.


--FT
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On Jan 17, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I miss his words of wisdom. “There is only one way to drive a Mercedes 
like you stole it!”


Bob Massmann

From: Rick Knoble
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 11:15 AM
To: Robert Massmann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

I would like to get a hitch on it to tow our popup camper.The trailer 
wiring is going to be an issue. The computer that controls the lighting 
(EVERYTHING is controlled by a computer on that SUV) is not going to like 
any changes. It would be best to inquire about that on the main list. I 
know NOTHING about Mercedes newer than 2008 or so. Geeze. The caps look 
like I'm channelling Marshall Booth. Enjoy!

Rick
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