Re: [NetBehaviour] Maecenas

[helen varley jamieson]

t;>>>>>> represent it - and market shares in it via the Blockchain?
>>>>>>> Proceeds to Furtherfield, unless the value went above a trillion
>>>>>>> dollars, in which case I want a cut.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/10/17 18:56, Rob Myers wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017, at 12:58 AM, ruth catlow wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Perfectly put Helen!
>>>>>>>>> Art reframed as a new asset class for fractional ownership
>>>>>>>>> ain't my idea of utopia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> """Marly studied the quotations. Pollock was down again. This,
>>>>>>>> she supposed, was the aspect of art that she had the most
>>>>>>>> difficulty understanding. Picard, if that was the man's name,
>>>>>>>> was speaking with a broker in New York, arranging the purchase
>>>>>>>> of a certain number of "points" of the work of a particular
>>>>>>>> artist. A "point" might be defined in any number of ways,
>>>>>>>> depending on the medium involved, but it was almost certain
>>>>>>>> that Picard would never see the works he was purchasing. If the
>>>>>>>> artist enjoyed sufficient status, the originals were very
>>>>>>>> likely crated away in some vault, where no one saw them at all.
>>>>>>>> Days or years later, Picard might pick up that same phone and
>>>>>>>> order the broker to sell. """
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Maecenas

[helen varley jamieson]

how about all the men on this list take it on to tweet/talk about this,
and any other incidents - big or small - that they're aware of? it isn't
only women's responsibility to be constantly trying to draw attention to
the problem, it's also men's responsibility to stop standing by silently
letting this stuff keep happening, as if it's normal.

h : )


On 20.10.2017 07:56, AGF poemproducer wrote:
>> On 20 Oct 2017, at 01:04, marc.garrett <marc.garr...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What a soulless slug this person must be. 
>
> haha - thanks for that
>
> Gretta, if you like we can tweet something humilating via female pressure 
> account, which i am co-running
> i am sick of letting this stuff slip, we can design the tweet together ???
>
> I am pro publicly calling out soulless slugs!
> it is a question of tools
>
> speaking of tools
>
> have you all heard of
> https://pursuanceproject.org/
> @PursuanceProj
>
> i am becoming quite hopeful with this
> it is not an easy way out
>
> but i think it could be something 
>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Maecenas

[helen varley jamieson]

e value went above a
>>   trillion dollars, in which case I want a cut.
>>
>>   Edward
>>
>>   On 11/10/17 18:56, Rob Myers wrote:
>>   On Wed, 11 Oct 2017, at 12:58 AM, ruth catlow
>>   wrote:
>>   Perfectly put Helen!
>> Art reframed as a new asset class for
>> fractional ownership ain't my idea of utopia.
>> """Marly studied the quotations. Pollock was down
>> again. This, she supposed, was the aspect of art
>> that she had the most difficulty understanding.
>> Picard, if that was the man's name, was speaking
>> with a broker in New York, arranging the purchase of
>> a certain number of "points" of the work of a
>> particular artist. A "point" might be defined in any
>> number of ways, depending on the medium involved,
>> but it was almost certain that Picard would never
>> see the works he was purchasing. If the artist
>> enjoyed sufficient status, the originals were very
>> likely crated away in some vault, where no one saw
>> them at all. Days or years later, Picard might pick
>> up that same phone and order the broker to sell. """
>>  *  William Gibson, "Count Zero", 1986.
>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Maecenas

[helen varley jamieson]

it means that immaterial / non-existent artworks by women artists are
doubly invisible, since so much [visible/material] art by women is
anyway invisible in the patriarchal art world ...

h : )

(emerging from an intense 4 days at the faces 20th anniversary in graz,
where invisibility/under-representation of women's art & women artists
was much discussed!)


On 16.10.2017 15:11, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> Body Art was both male and female, Gina Pane, Collette, Marina
> Abramovich, etc. but also Vito Acconci, Dennis Oppenheim, Genesis P.
> Orridge, but also Hannah Wilke, etc. A pretty mixed group. Most of the
> hard-core conceptualists were male, but there are also Adrian Piper,
> the Guerilla Girls, Alice Aycock and Nancy Wilson Kitchel, Martha
> Wilson, etc., who spanned conceptualism and physical/person production
> as well.
>
> - Alan
>
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2017, Gretta Louw wrote:
>
>> It?s interesting to me that artists working with immaterial /
>> non-existent
>> artworks in the past are so overwhelmingly male, but I don?t know yet
>> what it
>> means?http://www.modernedition.com/art-articles/absence-in-art/the-invisible-artw
>>
>> ork.html Something perhaps about the other side of the body art coin
>> perhaps?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   On 15. Oct 2017, at 17:15, ruth catlow
>>   <ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org> wrote:
>>
>> I'd be up for thinking this one through.
>> Let's do it.
>>
>> On 13/10/17 20:34, Edward Picot wrote:
>>   Oops! Apologies for posting this twice. I thought the
>>   first one hadn't worked.
>>
>>   On 13/10/17 19:10, Edward Picot wrote:
>>   Can't we do something with this? Couldn't we create
>>   a conceptual work of art that didn't actually exist
>>   at all - we could use some ideas from Curt
>>   Cloninger's 'Essay About Nothing' to represent it -
>>   and market shares in it via the Blockchain? Proceeds
>>   to Furtherfield, unless the value went above a
>>   trillion dollars, in which case I want a cut.
>>
>>   Edward
>>
>>   On 11/10/17 18:56, Rob Myers wrote:
>>   On Wed, 11 Oct 2017, at 12:58 AM, ruth catlow
>>   wrote:
>>   Perfectly put Helen!
>> Art reframed as a new asset class for
>> fractional ownership ain't my idea of utopia.
>>
>>
>> """Marly studied the quotations. Pollock was down
>> again. This, she supposed, was the aspect of art
>> that she had the most difficulty understanding.
>> Picard, if that was the man's name, was speaking
>> with a broker in New York, arranging the purchase of
>> a certain number of "points" of the work of a
>> particular artist. A "point" might be defined in any
>> number of ways, depending on the medium involved,
>> but it was almost certain that Picard would never
>> see the works he was purchasing. If the artist
>> enjoyed sufficient status, the originals were very
>> likely crated away in some vault, where no one saw
>> them at all. Days or years later, Picard might pick
>> up that same phone and order the broker to sell. """
>>
>> - William Gibson, "Count Zero", 1986.
>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Maecenas

[helen varley jamieson]

it is all ephemeral, but/and archiving (something, somehow) is still
important. but only in moderate proportions.


On 11.10.2017 04:42, Rob Myers wrote:
> "Look upon my [net]works, ye mighty..."
>
> Here's a list of dead blockchains.
>
> >From 2014.
>
> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=588413.0
>
> The list has only grown since then.
>
> I was recently asked to exhibit a project from two years ago that I
> couldn't because the service it relied on was no longer operational.
>
> Ken Wark is bearish on "digital collectibles" -
>
> http://www.e-flux.com/journal/85/156418/my-collectible-ass/
>
> But I find the illusion of permanence that millions of dollars of
> security a day can give is irresistible. ;-)
>
> - Rob.
>
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2017, at 08:54 PM, John Hopkins wrote:
>> On 09/Oct/17 02:22, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>>> agree. thank goodness my art is mostly ephemeral & can't be stuck with a
>>> financial pin like a dead butterfly ...
>> Hah, thanks for that little reminder! Let's hear it for ephemeral
>> networked art 
>> ("you had to be there" was the best reply I ever came up with when folks
>> used to 
>> ask "what was that work about?"). OTOH, as a confirmed archivist, I try
>> to 
>> capture some of those butterflies and stick pins through them -- but that
>> effort 
>> is absolutely an impossible fight against entropy these days. The archive
>> is too 
>> large, and formats for presentation are changing so fast. I am teetering
>> on the 
>> edge of giving up -- right now I'd have to re-code all video works, and 
>> completely reformat a 7500-entry blog to 'work' properly with the newest 
>> iteration of WordPress. I refuse to go to corporate social media formats
>> of 
>> distribution. And the 'punishment' of maintaining "a self-maintained
>> island of 
>> personal research and expression in a sea of corporately hosted and
>> filtered 
>> content" is getting to be too much. The full-time job has wrung all the 
>> resistent mojo outta this former-networker.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hard to remember that it is *all* ephemeral. Even the highest wall, the
>> biggest 
>> museum, and grandest civilization...
>>
>> so it goes.
>>
>> jh
>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Maecenas

[helen varley jamieson]

what do you mean by "value", ruth? value to whom? monetary value,
cultural value, nostalgic value, personal value ... ??

& then, what do you mean by "art" and "artists" ...

h ;)


On 11.10.2017 10:51, Gretta Louw wrote:
> I’ve been spending a lot of time puzzling over social media lately and
> think (horrifyingly) that the value of the latter is increasingly
> measured in instagram followers - we’re not yet at the point of openly
> sponsored posts, but indirectly I think it’s already happening… 
>
>
>
>
>> On 11. Oct 2017, at 09:58, ruth catlow <ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org
>> <mailto:ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Perfectly put Helen!
>> Art reframed as a new asset class for fractional ownership ain't my
>> idea of utopia.
>>
>> I have a question brewing - that I want to run by everyone - about
>> the value of art and artists now and in the future.
>>
>> If anyone can tell me what that question is I'd be very interested to
>> hear what it is;)
>>
>> Otherwise...soon...
>> :!
>>
>> On 09/10/17 09:22, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>>>
>>> agree. thank goodness my art is mostly ephemeral & can't be stuck
>>> with a financial pin like a dead butterfly ...
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07.10.2017 02:29, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I noticed this -
>>>>
>>>> "Maecenas touts itself as a blockchain platform that, according to
>>>> its creators, will democratise access to fine art. For the first
>>>> time, the Maecenas website enthuses, technology will allow
>>>> investors, collectors and owners to exchange shares in paintings
>>>> and sculptures instantly, akin to the way stocks of a company are
>>>> traded today."
>>>>
>>>> This does NOT democratise access to art; it's nothing more than a
>>>> secure way to protect and exchange's one investment - which plays
>>>> into the notion of enclaving described in Mike Davis' City of
>>>> Quartz (think it was written in the 80s). Art has to RESIST
>>>> enclaving, unless one accepts useless decoration and
>>>> connoisseurship as the only form of art worth considering.
>>>>
>>>> One of the amazing things about Furtherfield is, at least as far as
>>>> I can tell, it itself is a form of resistance! I'd thank God for
>>>> this, but given the state of things on the planet, I wouldn't want
>>>> to burden Her with more communication.
>>>>
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>> debates
>> around critical questions in art and technology, since 1997
>>
>> Furtherfield is a Not-for-Profit Company limited by Guarantee
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Maecenas

[helen varley jamieson]

agree. thank goodness my art is mostly ephemeral & can't be stuck with a
financial pin like a dead butterfly ...


On 07.10.2017 02:29, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> I noticed this -
>
> "Maecenas touts itself as a blockchain platform that, according to its
> creators, will democratise access to fine art. For the first time, the
> Maecenas website enthuses, technology will allow investors, collectors
> and owners to exchange shares in paintings and sculptures instantly,
> akin to the way stocks of a company are traded today."
>
> This does NOT democratise access to art; it's nothing more than a
> secure way to protect and exchange's one investment - which plays into
> the notion of enclaving described in Mike Davis' City of Quartz (think
> it was written in the 80s). Art has to RESIST enclaving, unless one
> accepts useless decoration and connoisseurship as the only form of art
> worth considering.
>
> One of the amazing things about Furtherfield is, at least as far as I
> can tell, it itself is a form of resistance! I'd thank God for this,
> but given the state of things on the planet, I wouldn't want to burden
> Her with more communication.
>
> - Alan
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Re: [NetBehaviour] taxonomy or framework's of telematic music making

[helen varley jamieson]

it's a bit tangential, but in 2007 stephen schrumm presented a proposed
taxonomy of digital performance. i wrote a bit about it in my masters
thesis:

At the 2007 Association for Theatre in Higher Education (ATHE)
conference in New Orleans,
Stephen Schrum presented a “Proposed Taxonomy of Digital Performance”
(Schrum, 2007).
Prompted by the absence of such a thing, he offered his taxonomy as a
starting point for a
discussion around common terms within the field of digital performance
that might be agreed
on and adopted. His taxonomy defines eight general areas across a
spectrum with “traditional”
(theatre production that does not include digital technology) at one end
and a hypothetical
“interactive holographic theatre” (full immersion and interaction in a
virtual world) at the
other. It is the seventh area, “computer-mediated performance” which
bears most relevance to
this research. Schrum defines computer-mediated performance as
“[p]erformance [that]
happens through the computer screen” and subdivides it into a further
two categories: “RL-
adapted performance” and “cyberspace performance”. The first he defines
as “Plays about
Real-Life (RL) performed in cyberspace” while the second is “Plays
created and set in
cyberspace; performed in cyberspace” and for both he gives examples of
works that use the
internet.

(& there's some more discussion about how cyberformance might fit into
such a taxonomy, or not).

unfortunately the link i had then (10 years ago) doesn't work now. but
you could probably get it from steve himself if you think it would be
useful.

h : )


On 16.09.2017 14:39, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
> Nothing to contribute, sadly, but very keen to see anything that comes
> out of this - do share!
> cheers
> michael
>
>
> 
> *From:* Roger Mills <ro...@eartrumpet.org>
> *To:* NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
> <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:38 AM
> *Subject:* [NetBehaviour] taxonomy or framework's of telematic music
> making
>
> Hi all,
>
> (sorry for cross postings)
>
> I’m currently writing about theories and taxonomies of telematic
> music, networked music performance, tele-improvisation and other
> tele-collaborative forms of music making.
>
> While many net musicians have contributed new theoretical perspectives
> in papers and articles about individual project’s or ideas, it seems
> that no one has proposed an updated typology or framework since Golo
> Föllmer’s Net Music (2002, 2005) and Gill Weinberg’s Interconnected
> Musical Networks (2002, 2003, 2005).. 
>
> Does anyone know of any others, particularly recently ?
>
> I’m after specific categorised frameworks, rather than individual
> theories on one aspect.
>
> Hope you’re all enjoying the weekend !
>
> Bests
>
> Roger
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Re: [NetBehaviour] trAce, LOST project

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Re: [NetBehaviour] London mail train

[helen varley jamieson]

very cool! :)


On 28.07.2017 17:41, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> I don't know how many read the piece I wrote on London last week, but
> the BBC has this about another transportation analog network that
> works perfectly with the article -
> http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20170526-londons-secret-underground-mail-rail
>
>
> - Just came over BBC here and is amazing!
>
> - Alan
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Re: [NetBehaviour] academia.edu

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i don't use it a lot but ended up with stuff there first because someone
else cited me as a co-author. so i uploaded a couple of things. but all
that seems to happen now is i periodically get emails telling me that x
number of people have been searching on my name or reading my articles,
but when i click on the link for further information, i get to a page
telling me to upgrade (& pay €7.4 per month).

i suppose it is useful if you have an academic career & it's important
that your publications are circulated. but for myself, it isn't useful
enough to warrant paying for.

h : )


On 25.07.2017 04:38, José María Mateos wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 09:36:54PM -0400, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>> Started putting texts up on academia.edu - does anyone use the site?
>>
>> Is there a way to make it 'work,' develop readership, community?
>
> The main problem I have with academia.edu is --unless I am mistaken,
> but I've tried just now-- that you need to have a user account in
> order to download the papers.
>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] An Interview with Alan Sondheim @furtherfield

[helen varley jamieson]

yes - the CyPosium was definitely a high-point for a lot of us! maybe
one day we do it / something similar again ... :)


On 29.06.2017 22:56, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> Cyposium was clearly a highpoint of my cyber-life, such as it is; it
> was for many of us. The book's wonderful - we have a hard-copy 'across
> the pond in the wrong direction' - even with Brexit wd love to leave
> the U.S. and its calculated hatreds behind.
>
> Cyposium was an amazing event!
>
> - Alan
>
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>
>>
>> i'm sad not to be in london tomorrow ...
>>
>> the article is great :) people who enjoyed it may also like to check out
>> alan's presentation at the CyPosium a few years ago - screen
>> recording here:
>> http://www.cyposium.net/selected-presentations/sondheim/ and edited
>> transcript in the book: http://linkeditions.tumblr.com/cyposium -
>> which also
>> has a chapter on memory, death & cyberformance - extracts from emails
>> between myself & alan after the CyPosium.
>>
>> have fun at the opening!
>>
>> h : )
>>
>>
>> On 29.06.2017 12:51, ruth catlow wrote:
>>   Thanks Mark!
>>
>>   And thanks Michael and Alan.
>>
>>   The interview is superb and reinforces my conviction that
>>   whenever possible we should tip ourselves *Art First* into life.
>>
>>   Please any Netbehaviourists get to the Children of Prometheus
>>   exhibition opening this Friday if you can.
>>   http://furtherfield.org/programmes/exhibition/children-prometheus
>>
>>   You will meet Alan in the flesh and/or attend his talk at
>>   Furtherfield Commons next Wednesday evening. It would be so
>>   brilliant to manifest the NB network in the flesh.
>>
>>   Lahhh!
>>   Ruth
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   On 29/06/17 11:35, Mark Hancock wrote:
>>   This is a great interview. 
>> Can I just say: I don't know what's in the cyber-water across
>> Furtherfield and associated collaborator networks right now, but
>> the past few months have been totally invigorating and
>> inspiring. Stay strong and keep doing whatever it is everyone
>> who drinks deep from the well of net art/digital media art does.
>>
>> You are all needed today more than ever before.
>>
>> On 28 June 2017 at 10:45, Marc.garrett
>> <marc.garr...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>>   An Interview with Alan Sondheim
>>
>> By Michael Szpakowski.
>>
>> On the occasion of his talk at Furtherfield Commons this
>> coming Wednesday 5 July, and participation in the Children
>> of Prometheus exhibition at Furtherfield Gallery we
>> present an interview conducted by the artist and writer
>> Michael Szpakowski in which Sondheim gives a broad
>> overview of his artistic formation, practice and
>> philosophy. Alan Sondheim has been ploughing a very
>> singular furrow through art, music, writing, philosophy,
>> technology, and much else since the late sixties.
>>
>> http://bit.ly/2s17rtN
>>
>> Wishing you well
>>
>> marc
>>
>> Marc Garrett
>>
>> Co-Founder, Co-Director and main editor of Furtherfield.
>> Art, technology and social change, since 1996
>> http://www.furtherfield.org
>>
>> Furtherfield Gallery & Commons in the park
>> Finsbury Park, London N4 2NQ
>> http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery
>> Currently writing a PhD at Birkbeck University, London
>> https://birkbeck.academia.edu/MarcGarrett
>>
>> Curating, Touring Exhibition
>> Monsters of the Machine:Frankenstein in the 21st Century
>> At Laboral, Spain until Sept 2017 http://bit.ly/2eGdpw1
>> Visiting other countries soon...
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Re: [NetBehaviour] An Interview with Alan Sondheim @furtherfield

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>>>
>>>> Furtherfield Gallery & Commons in the park
>>>> Finsbury Park, London N4 2NQ
>>>> http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery
>>>> <http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery>
>>>> Currently writing a PhD at Birkbeck University, London
>>>> https://birkbeck.academia.edu/MarcGarrett
>>>> <https://birkbeck.academia.edu/MarcGarrett>
>>>>
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>>>> Monsters of the Machine:Frankenstein in the 21st Century
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Re: [NetBehaviour] An Interview with Alan Sondheim @furtherfield

[helen varley jamieson]

i'm sad not to be in london tomorrow ...

the article is great :) people who enjoyed it may also like to check out
alan's presentation at the CyPosium a few years ago - screen recording
here: http://www.cyposium.net/selected-presentations/sondheim/ and
edited transcript in the book: http://linkeditions.tumblr.com/cyposium -
which also has a chapter on memory, death & cyberformance - extracts
from emails between myself & alan after the CyPosium.

have fun at the opening!

h : )


On 29.06.2017 12:51, ruth catlow wrote:
> Thanks Mark!
>
> And thanks Michael and Alan.
>
> The interview is superb and reinforces my conviction that whenever
> possible we should tip ourselves *Art First* into life.
>
> Please any Netbehaviourists get to the Children of Prometheus
> exhibition opening this Friday if you can.
> http://furtherfield.org/programmes/exhibition/children-prometheus
>
> You will meet Alan in the flesh and/or attend his talk at
> Furtherfield Commons next Wednesday evening. It would be so brilliant
> to manifest the NB network in the flesh.
>
> Lahhh!
> Ruth
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 29/06/17 11:35, Mark Hancock wrote:
>> This is a great interview. 
>>
>> Can I just say: I don't know what's in the cyber-water across
>> Furtherfield and associated collaborator networks right now, but the
>> past few months have been totally invigorating and inspiring. Stay
>> strong and keep doing whatever it is everyone who drinks deep from
>> the well of net art/digital media art does.
>>
>> You are all needed today more than ever before.
>>
>> On 28 June 2017 at 10:45, Marc.garrett <marc.garr...@protonmail.com
>> <mailto:marc.garr...@protonmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> An Interview with Alan Sondheim
>>
>> By Michael Szpakowski.
>>
>> On the occasion of his talk at Furtherfield Commons this coming
>> Wednesday 5 July, and participation in the Children of Prometheus
>> exhibition at Furtherfield Gallery we present an interview
>> conducted by the artist and writer Michael Szpakowski in which
>> Sondheim gives a broad overview of his artistic formation,
>> practice and philosophy. Alan Sondheim has been ploughing a very
>> singular furrow through art, music, writing, philosophy,
>> technology, and much else since the late sixties.
>>
>> http://bit.ly/2s17rtN
>>
>> Wishing you well
>>
>> marc
>>
>> Marc Garrett
>>
>> Co-Founder, Co-Director and main editor of Furtherfield.
>> Art, technology and social change, since 1996
>> http://www.furtherfield.org
>>
>> Furtherfield Gallery & Commons in the park
>> Finsbury Park, London N4 2NQ
>> http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery
>> <http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery>
>> Currently writing a PhD at Birkbeck University, London
>> https://birkbeck.academia.edu/MarcGarrett
>> <https://birkbeck.academia.edu/MarcGarrett>
>>
>> Curating, Touring Exhibition
>> Monsters of the Machine:Frankenstein in the 21st Century
>> At Laboral, Spain until Sept 2017 http://bit.ly/2eGdpw1
>> Visiting other countries soon...
>>
>> Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email.
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> debates
> around critical questions in art and technology, since 1997
>
> Furtherfield is a Not-for-Profit Company limited by Guarantee
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Re: [NetBehaviour] begging technology?

[helen varley jamieson]

all good questions. in germany, as i understand it, the law has recently
been changed to make it the right of everyone, regardless of whether or
not they have an address, to have a bank account. on the surface this
sounds like a good thing (especially for artists & others who move
around & sometimes need to open an account somewhere just to get paid
once, i've had to do this before) but it's really about getting everyone
into the system; tracking & controlling. if you are an undocumented
person, not having an address won't be the only barrier to getting a
bank account, & if the only way you can beg is digitally, then you're
screwed ...


On 21.06.2017 13:34, Institute of Network Cultures wrote:
> very disturbing indeed. As far as I know the Amsterdam example is
> still a prototype - surrounded by the usual techno-euphoria. It is
> funded by ABN Amro bank and designed by N=5 studio.
>
> who owns the infrastructure?
> who pays for the upkeep?
> how will bank accounts (address needed) and the costs related to this
> be supplied?
> who will capitalise on this new 'disruptive tech’ and who will suffer
> the tightening margins?
> will the money earned be free to use on whatever the homeless person
> wants, or limited to bed/food?
> will the poor be stripped of agency and generally punished for being poor?
> etc etc
>
>
> Inte Gloerich
>
> Institute of Network Cultures <http://www.networkcultures.org/>
> Amsterdam University of Applied Sciences
>
> Working days: Monday - Thursday
>
> t: @INCAmsterdam <https://twitter.com/INCAmsterdam>
> m: 06 21 15 66 09
>
> // LISTEN: Zero Infinite Podcast #3 Listing Technology
> <http://networkcultures.org/blog/publication/zero-infinite-3-listing-technology/>
> // READ: The Riddle of the Real City or the Dark Knowledge of Urbanism
> <http://networkcultures.org/blog/publication/the-riddle-of-the-real-city-or-the-dark-knowledge-of-urbanism/>
> // ATTEND: Karakters en maskers: de gezichten van het online zelf
> <http://networkcultures.org/online-self/2017/06/19/event-karakters-en-maskers-de-gezichten-van-het-online-zelf/>
>
>> On 21 Jun 2017, at 13:09, helen varley jamieson
>> <he...@creative-catalyst.com <mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com>> wrote:
>>
>> it's happened already:
>>
>> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/beggars-china-now-accepting-donations-via-mobile-payments-qr-codes-1618396
>>
>> http://www.odditycentral.com/news/amsterdam-introduces-contactless-payment-jackets-for-beggars.html
>>
>> i find this all very disturbing; the push for the digitisation of ALL
>> transactions is being driven by banks & IT companies, who stand to
>> make huge profits from it, & governments who will gain incredibly
>> fine-grained information about minute details of our lives - from 
>> where we drank a coffee & with whom to, well, everything that we
>> spend money on. the situation in india last year when the government
>> abruptly withdrew 500 & 1000 rupee notes from circulation - which
>> massively dissadvantaged poor rural people - was more about forced
>> digitisation than about dealing with the black market. the black
>> market is of course already flourishing in the digital world.
>>
>> living in germany, i've observed that german people are more attached
>> to cash than for example british or new zealanders. there is a
>> respect for cash & a distrust of having everything so documented &
>> trackable. so there is some resistance to it here.
>>
>> some of us UpStagers are working now on a new performance called
>> "Cash Flow" that is looking at this move to digitisation & what it
>> means. what we lose from not having cash, what we gain, what we
>> should be aware/wary of in this massive shift to how we as
>> individuals live and exchange with one another.
>>
>> h : )
>>
>>
>> On 21.06.2017 10:54, aharon wrote:
>>> Hiyas,
>>>
>>> Here's a quick question..
>>>
>>> Once we get used to not using paper and coin oriented money.. Once the 
>>> cards and mobile paying methods will be the only way for payments -
>>> how do we give for people begging in the streets? Or performing begging in 
>>> the streets? Or just singing in the rainy streets for some numerical 
>>> exchange?
>>>
>>> Will beggars have to have a card reading device?
>>> Will they have to pay commissions to visa and such?
>>>
>>> Will street begging become not just an outcome of capitalist occupation but 
>>> also another way for capitalism to squeeze  and monopolise capital out of 
>>> socie

Re: [NetBehaviour] begging technology?

[helen varley jamieson]

it's happened already:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/beggars-china-now-accepting-donations-via-mobile-payments-qr-codes-1618396

http://www.odditycentral.com/news/amsterdam-introduces-contactless-payment-jackets-for-beggars.html

i find this all very disturbing; the push for the digitisation of ALL
transactions is being driven by banks & IT companies, who stand to make
huge profits from it, & governments who will gain incredibly
fine-grained information about minute details of our lives - from  where
we drank a coffee & with whom to, well, everything that we spend money
on. the situation in india last year when the government abruptly
withdrew 500 & 1000 rupee notes from circulation - which massively
dissadvantaged poor rural people - was more about forced digitisation
than about dealing with the black market. the black market is of course
already flourishing in the digital world.

living in germany, i've observed that german people are more attached to
cash than for example british or new zealanders. there is a respect for
cash & a distrust of having everything so documented & trackable. so
there is some resistance to it here.

some of us UpStagers are working now on a new performance called "Cash
Flow" that is looking at this move to digitisation & what it means. what
we lose from not having cash, what we gain, what we should be aware/wary
of in this massive shift to how we as individuals live and exchange with
one another.

h : )


On 21.06.2017 10:54, aharon wrote:
> Hiyas,
>
> Here's a quick question..
>
> Once we get used to not using paper and coin oriented money.. Once the cards 
> and mobile paying methods will be the only way for payments -
> how do we give for people begging in the streets? Or performing begging in 
> the streets? Or just singing in the rainy streets for some numerical exchange?
>
> Will beggars have to have a card reading device?
> Will they have to pay commissions to visa and such?
>
> Will street begging become not just an outcome of capitalist occupation but 
> also another way for capitalism to squeeze  and monopolise capital out of 
> societies?
>
> Maybe we could have a begging robot that could be rented out for people in 
> need..?
>
>
> Have fun!
> aharon
> xx
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Finsbury Park attacks..

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o/34062471264/>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/34223234740/
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/34223234740/>
>  )
>
> we should participate along with as many and diverse people as we
> can in organising, protesting, demonstrating... This is not a time
> for any sort of guild mentality but for getting stuck in.
>
> I particular urge anyone in the UK not a member of Stand Up To
> Racism to join today.
>
> http://www.standuptoracism.org.uk/
> <http://www.standuptoracism.org.uk/>
>
>
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> Michael
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Re: [NetBehaviour] new wikipedia articles

[helen varley jamieson]

thanks ruth :) it was high time you were on there!

h : )


On 05.06.2017 10:46, ruth catlow wrote:
>
> Excellent blog post Helen - for wide sharing! And an inspiring effort
> from you Munich wiki-feminists. The emancipatory punch of Woolf and De
> Beauvoir powers-through in your work.
> And this is before we get onto the question of class-exclusion.
>
> It such a humungous mind-melon-twister to argue for one's own
> notability and a bit overwhelming to have you do it on my behalf. So
> much work! A massive thank you!
>
> Ruth
>
>
> On 03/06/17 12:08, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>>
>> hi everyone,
>>
>> a couple of months ago there was a wikipedia edit-a-thon here in
>> munich that was attended by myself, gretta louw, tamiko thiel & quite
>> a lot of others. it was a good event, altho somewhat frustrating - as
>> many wikipedia editing experiences are!! (i blogged about it here:
>> http://creative-catalyst.com/serendipity/index.php?/archives/195-whats-wrong-with-wikipedia.html)
>>
>> anyway the good news is that as a result, there are now 2 new
>> wikipedia articles:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Catlow
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretta_Louw
>>
>> & some editing was done on other pages:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamiko_Thiel
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Varley_Jamieson
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Abrahams
>>
>> (there was also a page created for Susanne Wiegner but it has been
>> deleted; we might have also worked on some other pages but i can't
>> remember now ...)
>>
>> gretta's and my articles both still have tags saying "multiple
>> issues", despite having lots of quite reputable references. mine
>> needs someone who does not have a "close connection" to me (i don't
>> know how wikipedia defines "close") to add more secondary sources.
>> gretta's article is an orphan, meaning it needs links from other
>> wikipedia pages to her article. it also says it needs additional
>> citations, it already has more than plenty of male artists who don't
>> have the same tags on their pages so i think once it's no longer an
>> orphan we should be able to get rid of that.
>>
>> so, if anyone out there has idle time on their hands & feels like
>> entering into the twisted labyrinth of wikipedia editing, i invite
>> you to contribute to improving these articles :)
>>
>> h : )
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[NetBehaviour] new wikipedia articles

[helen varley jamieson]

hi everyone,

a couple of months ago there was a wikipedia edit-a-thon here in munich
that was attended by myself, gretta louw, tamiko thiel & quite a lot of
others. it was a good event, altho somewhat frustrating - as many
wikipedia editing experiences are!! (i blogged about it here:
http://creative-catalyst.com/serendipity/index.php?/archives/195-whats-wrong-with-wikipedia.html)

anyway the good news is that as a result, there are now 2 new wikipedia
articles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Catlow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretta_Louw

& some editing was done on other pages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamiko_Thiel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Varley_Jamieson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Abrahams

(there was also a page created for Susanne Wiegner but it has been
deleted; we might have also worked on some other pages but i can't
remember now ...)

gretta's and my articles both still have tags saying "multiple issues",
despite having lots of quite reputable references. mine needs someone
who does not have a "close connection" to me (i don't know how wikipedia
defines "close") to add more secondary sources. gretta's article is an
orphan, meaning it needs links from other wikipedia pages to her
article. it also says it needs additional citations, it already has more
than plenty of male artists who don't have the same tags on their pages
so i think once it's no longer an orphan we should be able to get rid of
that.

so, if anyone out there has idle time on their hands & feels like
entering into the twisted labyrinth of wikipedia editing, i invite you
to contribute to improving these articles :)

h : )

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Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

[helen varley jamieson]

well, the price is more like what it really should cost to make a phone
- if the people making it are paid properly and not exploited.

so if you believe that people should be paid properly, & have good
working conditions, then you should be prepared to pay this and more for
phones & other technology.

you also get good service - humans respond promptly to enquiries, there
is a good online support forum, & you can send your phone back for safe
recycling when you've finished with it.

really, the price is very reasonable!

h : )


On 27.05.2017 13:50, aharon wrote:
> Thanks Helen, didn't know of lineageos.org. will try the os..
> Fairphone.. yes.. I wonder about the price.. out of my range, but is
> this difference in price the kind of number, in pounds, euros and
> other currencies - of a person's mobile-linked freedom?
> the price to pay for not working for google's fame and fortune?
>
> cheers!
>
> aharon
> xx
>
> May 24 2017 1:07 PM, "helen varley jamieson"
> <he...@creative-catalyst.com
> <mailto:%22helen%20varley%20jamieson%22%20%3che...@creative-catalyst.com%3E>>
> wrote:
>
> i don't know about all mobile devices, but fairphone has a forum
> of alternative operating systems:
> https://forum.fairphone.com/c/software/alternative-oses
>
> (i don't have actual experience of any of them, i'm just using the
> standard fairphone kola nut OS)
>
> h : )
>
>  
> On 23.05.2017 23:22, x wrote:
>  
>>
>> oh.. operating systems..
>> just had over a month of being on road and having to keep
>> technologically cheap yet light..
>> hence still suffering android..
>>
>> am i missing something or there is a complete and utter absence
>> of quality free operating system for mobile devices?
>>
>> rant apart  if people need a light, Graphical and upto date os
>> for an old netbook laptop etc
>> maybe check puppylinux,?
>> you can get, in a sense, latest ubuntu or slackware running on an
>> old or new netbook
>> without habing to deal with the commandline bits..
>>
>> ciao from brasilia.
>> aharon
>> xxx
>>
>> --
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>>
>> Monday, 22 May 2017, 10:22pm -03:00 from Alan Sondheim
>> sondh...@panix.com <mailto:sondh...@panix.com>:
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> It installed quickly for me. I think there's a way to get a
>> graphic os on
>> it but I haven't tried. Used to use Cygwin and still have it!
>>
>> - Alan
>>
>> On Tue, 23 May 2017, James Morris wrote:
>>  
>> > It's only really the command line tools (which is still a
>> lot!).
>> >
>> > I got quite excited about it at work where I'm using a few
>> BASH scripts with
>> > Cygwin on a regular basis. Unfortunately the Windows 10
>> Anniversary update
>> > which contains the Linux tools consistently fails to
>> install - and takes 3/4
>> > hour to not install :-(
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>     >
>> > On 22/05/17 23:40, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Fwiw, one thing worth noting - for those who are using
>> limited memory (like
>> >> my netbook), Midori's an excellent browser -
>> >> Also wanted to mention that you can open up Ubuntu in
>> Win10 - I have it
>> >> working there as well. It comes with the OS,
>> >>
>> >> - Alan
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 22 May 2017, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks alan :)
>> >>>
>> >>> i have noticed how much less space the OS needs, & how
>> quickly everything
>> >>> runs!
>> >>>
>>     >>> h : )
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 22.05.2017 18:59, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I use linux on my older laptops; it's easy to install; in
>> fact
>> >>> I'm on a Dell netbook now with only 2 gig of ram and it runs
>> >>> fine. One good thing about the OS is that you can install a
>>

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

[helen varley jamieson]

i don't know about all mobile devices, but fairphone has a forum of
alternative operating systems:
https://forum.fairphone.com/c/software/alternative-oses

(i don't have actual experience of any of them, i'm just using the
standard fairphone kola nut OS)

h : )


On 23.05.2017 23:22, x wrote:
>
> oh.. operating systems..
> just had over a month of being on road and having to keep
> technologically cheap yet light..
> hence still suffering android..
>
> am i missing something or there is a complete and utter absence of
> quality free operating system for mobile devices?
>
> rant apart  if people need a light, Graphical and upto date os for
> an old netbook laptop etc
> maybe check puppylinux,?
> you can get, in a sense, latest ubuntu or slackware running on an old
> or new netbook
> without habing to deal with the commandline bits..
>
> ciao from brasilia.
> aharon
> xxx
>
> --
> Sent from myMail for Android
>
> Monday, 22 May 2017, 10:22pm -03:00 from Alan Sondheim
> sondh...@panix.com <mailto:sondh...@panix.com>:
>
>
>  
>
>
> It installed quickly for me. I think there's a way to get a
> graphic os on
> it but I haven't tried. Used to use Cygwin and still have it!
>
> - Alan
>
> On Tue, 23 May 2017, James Morris wrote:
>  
> > It's only really the command line tools (which is still a lot!).
> >
> > I got quite excited about it at work where I'm using a few BASH
> scripts with
> > Cygwin on a regular basis. Unfortunately the Windows 10
> Anniversary update
> > which contains the Linux tools consistently fails to install -
> and takes 3/4
> > hour to not install :-(
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22/05/17 23:40, Alan Sondheim wrote:
> >>
> >> Fwiw, one thing worth noting - for those who are using limited
> memory (like
> >> my netbook), Midori's an excellent browser -
> >> Also wanted to mention that you can open up Ubuntu in Win10 - I
> have it
> >> working there as well. It comes with the OS,
> >>
> >> - Alan
> >>
> >> On Mon, 22 May 2017, helen varley jamieson wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> thanks alan :)
> >>>
> >>> i have noticed how much less space the OS needs, & how quickly
> everything
> >>> runs!
> >>>
> >>> h : )
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 22.05.2017 18:59, Alan Sondheim wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I use linux on my older laptops; it's easy to install; in fact
> >>> I'm on a Dell netbook now with only 2 gig of ram and it runs
> >>> fine. One good thing about the OS is that you can install a
> >>> different one in maybe 15 minutes, so you can tailor the linux
> >>> distro to your needs. Fwiw, I use linux mint for the most part,
> >>> lots of terminal stuff.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck with this!
> >>>
> >>> - Alan
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 22 May 2017, helen varley jamieson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>> more than a year ago i wrote to this list asking for
> >>> advice about buying a
> >>> linux laptop. it took me a while, but i'm now
> >>> happily working with ubuntu
> >>> mate on a no-brand machine :)
> >>>
> >>> i spent quite a lot of time looking at second-hand &
> >>> B-ware (ex-display)
> >>> machines, & also at new models (lenovo, dell, hp,
> >>> acer, asus, etc etc ... )
> >>> & got quite overwhelmed by the choice & variables.
> >>> nothing was exactly what
> >>> i wanted, & i couldn't decide on what to compromise.
> >>> i had a couple of
> >>> things that were definite - not bigger than 14",
> >>> must have ethernet port,
> >>> prefereably separate audio in & out; so that
> >>> narrowed things down quite a
> >>> bit, but still i wasn't finding anything that felt
> >>> right.
> >>>
> >>> then i found a uk company that sells no-brand
> >>> laptops with linux
> >>> pre-installed (https://www.entroware.com). i could
> >>> choose the

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

[helen varley jamieson]

i've had no trouble with wireless connectivity, just entered the details
& it worked. installing the printer driver via the command line was
easier than i expected too, i followed the instructions i found online &
it worked first time.

this laptop came with LibreOffice preinstalled, & i was going to switch
to Open Office since i've been using that for a few years already, but
then i found that i would have to deinstall Libre first if i wanted to
install OO. it started to look complicated & so far there doesn't seem
to be a lot of difference between Libre & OO so for now anyway i'm
staying with Libre.

yes, not being able to use flash to create swfs is a temporary problem
for me - since previously this was quite important for creating media
for UpStage. however we are now well underway with a rebuild that frees
the platform from flash, & everything is moving away from flash. i am
using blender for a few things - mainly simply text animation & video
editing - & have found it easier than i anticipated (anticipating
difficulty means that one can be more often pleasantly surprised ;) )

one thing i don't have yet & will need, is a good screen recording app
(audio-video). can anyone recommend one?

h : )


On 24.05.2017 10:35, ruth catlow wrote:
> I've been running Linux Mint on the same Samsung laptop for the last 4
> years without a single unfortunate incident... and low level
> maintenance. With Gimp, Open Office (sometimes annoying), Inkscape,
> Kdenlive, Audacity, VLC, Filezilla.
> Good wireless connectivity. Some trouble with print drives (that's it)
>
> Linux Ra Ra Rah!
>
> Ruth
>
>
>  On 23/05/17 19:15, Edward Picot wrote:
>> Helen,
>>
>> Good for you! I agree that Linux is much less deterring than we are
>> generally led to believe. I started by putting it on an old spare
>> computer a few years ago, and since then I've been buying cheap
>> laptops and over-writing the existing Windows operating system with
>> Linux, which always gives me a bit of a transgressive thrill. Apart
>> from anything else you save a fortune in anti-virus fees. I started
>> out with Mandriva Linux - which was probably an odd choice, but I
>> came across a disc for it somewhere - but I now use Ubuntu.
>> Unfortunately Ubuntu 16, which is the one I'm currently using, has
>> some well-documented wireless connectivity problems, so I have to
>> connect to my router via an ethernet cable, not that that's the end
>> of the world. There are some rather lengthy fixes out there, but I
>> haven't got round to trying them yet.
>>
>> The range and quality of software available for Linux never ceases to
>> amaze me. Libre Office, the Gimp, Audacity, Kdenlive and Inkscape are
>> all wonderful. As for Blender, it's mind-bending to be able to get
>> your hands on a piece of software that powerful for nothing, although
>> it's extremely challenging to learn (I've only scratched the
>> surface). The only thing I genuinely miss is Flash - but Flash in its
>> Adobe incarnation is now so expensive that I wouldn't be able to
>> afford it anyway.
>>
>> Edward
>>
>> On 22/05/17 09:47, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>>>
>>> hi everyone,
>>>
>>> more than a year ago i wrote to this list asking for advice about
>>> buying a linux laptop. it took me a while, but i'm now happily
>>> working with ubuntu mate on a no-brand machine :)
>>>
>>> i spent quite a lot of time looking at second-hand & B-ware
>>> (ex-display) machines, & also at new models (lenovo, dell, hp, acer,
>>> asus, etc etc ... ) & got quite overwhelmed by the choice &
>>> variables. nothing was exactly what i wanted, & i couldn't decide on
>>> what to compromise. i had a couple of things that were definite -
>>> not bigger than 14", must have ethernet port, prefereably separate
>>> audio in & out; so that narrowed things down quite a bit, but still
>>> i wasn't finding anything that felt right.
>>>
>>> then i found a uk company that sells no-brand laptops with linux
>>> pre-installed (https://www.entroware.com). i could choose the hard
>>> drive, RAM, keyboard layout, etc & it arrived 5 days after i ordered
>>> it. i took it out of the box, turned it on, & started using it. the
>>> trickiest thing i've had to do so far was use the command line to
>>> get it to talk nicely to my printer - & i managed that without
>>> incident.
>>>
>>> i'm still adjusting to the non-mac keyboard shortcuts - it's easier
>>> to take a screenshot but more difficult to do an umlaut (ü), & there
&

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

[helen varley jamieson]

thanks alan :)

i have noticed how much less space the OS needs, & how quickly
everything runs!

h : )


On 22.05.2017 18:59, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> I use linux on my older laptops; it's easy to install; in fact I'm on
> a Dell netbook now with only 2 gig of ram and it runs fine. One good
> thing about the OS is that you can install a different one in maybe 15
> minutes, so you can tailor the linux distro to your needs. Fwiw, I use
> linux mint for the most part, lots of terminal stuff.
>
> Good luck with this!
>
> - Alan
>
> On Mon, 22 May 2017, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>
>>
>> hi everyone,
>>
>> more than a year ago i wrote to this list asking for advice about
>> buying a
>> linux laptop. it took me a while, but i'm now happily working with
>> ubuntu
>> mate on a no-brand machine :)
>>
>> i spent quite a lot of time looking at second-hand & B-ware (ex-display)
>> machines, & also at new models (lenovo, dell, hp, acer, asus, etc etc
>> ... )
>> & got quite overwhelmed by the choice & variables. nothing was
>> exactly what
>> i wanted, & i couldn't decide on what to compromise. i had a couple of
>> things that were definite - not bigger than 14", must have ethernet
>> port,
>> prefereably separate audio in & out; so that narrowed things down
>> quite a
>> bit, but still i wasn't finding anything that felt right.
>>
>> then i found a uk company that sells no-brand laptops with linux
>> pre-installed (https://www.entroware.com). i could choose the hard
>> drive,
>> RAM, keyboard layout, etc & it arrived 5 days after i ordered it. i
>> took it
>> out of the box, turned it on, & started using it. the trickiest thing
>> i've
>> had to do so far was use the command line to get it to talk nicely to my
>> printer - & i managed that without incident.
>>
>> i'm still adjusting to the non-mac keyboard shortcuts - it's easier
>> to take
>> a screenshot but more difficult to do an umlaut (?), & there are a
>> couple of
>> things i still need to work out. & one loss is that there are no linux
>> drivers for my wireless webcam, so i'm back to a tethered webcam for
>> now.
>> but it is s much faster than my old mac, & i've found most of the
>> software that i need.
>>
>> so if anyone else out there is also considering making the switch to
>> linux,
>> i say - just do it! :)
>>
>> h : )
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>> he...@creative-catalyst.com
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>>
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>> 24 November 2016
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Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

[helen varley jamieson]

hi pall,

the webcam is a BT-1 (http://www.ecamm.com/support/?cat=bt1) & it seems
to be mac only (& isn't made anymore). i had a bit of a look for a linux
driver for it but didn't find one. if you know of one, please tell me!

i'm still experimenting with the keyboard, & which keys to use for what.
i often need spanish accents as well as german & sometimes serbian or
other alphabet characters too, so i'm used to having to do a bit of
switching around :)

h : )


On 22.05.2017 13:55, Pall Thayer wrote:
> Hi Helen,
>
> What is the wireless webcam?
>
> Also, you should be able to find a keyboard layout that makes it
> easier to type an umlaut. I frequently have to switch between English
> and Icelandic, so I have things set up so that right-Ctrl-Shift
> switches between American and Icelandic layouts.
>
> Best r.
> Pall
>
> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 4:48 AM helen varley jamieson
> <he...@creative-catalyst.com <mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com>> wrote:
>
> hi everyone,
>
> more than a year ago i wrote to this list asking for advice about
> buying a linux laptop. it took me a while, but i'm now happily
> working with ubuntu mate on a no-brand machine :)
>
> i spent quite a lot of time looking at second-hand & B-ware
> (ex-display) machines, & also at new models (lenovo, dell, hp,
> acer, asus, etc etc ... ) & got quite overwhelmed by the choice &
> variables. nothing was exactly what i wanted, & i couldn't decide
> on what to compromise. i had a couple of things that were definite
> - not bigger than 14", must have ethernet port, prefereably
> separate audio in & out; so that narrowed things down quite a bit,
> but still i wasn't finding anything that felt right.
>
> then i found a uk company that sells no-brand laptops with linux
> pre-installed (https://www.entroware.com). i could choose the hard
> drive, RAM, keyboard layout, etc & it arrived 5 days after i
> ordered it. i took it out of the box, turned it on, & started
> using it. the trickiest thing i've had to do so far was use the
> command line to get it to talk nicely to my printer - & i managed
> that without incident.
>
> i'm still adjusting to the non-mac keyboard shortcuts - it's
> easier to take a screenshot but more difficult to do an umlaut
> (ü), & there are a couple of things i still need to work out. &
> one loss is that there are no linux drivers for my wireless
> webcam, so i'm back to a tethered webcam for now. but it is s
> much faster than my old mac, & i've found most of the software
> that i need.
>
> so if anyone else out there is also considering making the switch
> to linux, i say - just do it! :)
>
> h : )
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[NetBehaviour] linux laptops

[helen varley jamieson]

hi everyone,

more than a year ago i wrote to this list asking for advice about buying
a linux laptop. it took me a while, but i'm now happily working with
ubuntu mate on a no-brand machine :)

i spent quite a lot of time looking at second-hand & B-ware (ex-display)
machines, & also at new models (lenovo, dell, hp, acer, asus, etc etc
... ) & got quite overwhelmed by the choice & variables. nothing was
exactly what i wanted, & i couldn't decide on what to compromise. i had
a couple of things that were definite - not bigger than 14", must have
ethernet port, prefereably separate audio in & out; so that narrowed
things down quite a bit, but still i wasn't finding anything that felt
right.

then i found a uk company that sells no-brand laptops with linux
pre-installed (https://www.entroware.com). i could choose the hard
drive, RAM, keyboard layout, etc & it arrived 5 days after i ordered it.
i took it out of the box, turned it on, & started using it. the
trickiest thing i've had to do so far was use the command line to get it
to talk nicely to my printer - & i managed that without incident.

i'm still adjusting to the non-mac keyboard shortcuts - it's easier to
take a screenshot but more difficult to do an umlaut (ü), & there are a
couple of things i still need to work out. & one loss is that there are
no linux drivers for my wireless webcam, so i'm back to a tethered
webcam for now. but it is s much faster than my old mac, & i've
found most of the software that i need.

so if anyone else out there is also considering making the switch to
linux, i say - just do it! :)

h : )
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Videofreex - Networked Conversations

[helen varley jamieson]

hi randall,

this looks like a great series :)

it would be super-helpful if you could provide a time-converter link on
the webpage so that those of us not in PDT or EDT can easily find out
what our local time is for the broadcasts.

i made one for kit galloway's interview (alas, it's 3am in the morning
for germany - i'll have to make do with the recording, if there will be
one?):
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_US-CA.aspx?y=2017=4=24=18=0

h : )


On 18/03/17 6:50 05AM, Randall Packer wrote:
>
> Videofreex pioneers Skip Blumberg, Nancy Cain, and Mary Curtis
> Ratcliff discuss their reinvention of television in the 1970s as a
> social broadcast medium ::: Monday, March 27, 9:00pm-10:00pm (EDT-US)
> (UTC-4) ::: Networked Conversations is hosted by Randall Packer :::
> live & online via Internet chat.
>
> Login & participate:
> https://connect.ntu.edu.sg/thirdspacenetwork/
> Select “Guest,”type your name, and“Enter Room.”
>
>  
>
> About the Videofreex
>
> The Videofreex established Lanesville TV in upstate New York in the
> early 1970s, an experimental television project to forge the first
> pirate tv station in America.
>
> In their own funky way, the Videofreex reinvented television,
> reversing its power as a broadcast medium for engaging community, a
> creative medium for storytelling, an artisan approach to television.
> They foresaw television not as a corporate controlled delivery
> mechanism for reinforcing consumerism and mainstream popular culture,
> but rather as an artists’ platform for invention and social interaction. 
>
> The Videofreex embraced radical television in their interviews with
> political activists and captured alternative culture in America during
> the 1970s when it wasn’t properly covered by mainstream media; they
> reinvented broadcast journalism with their direct style that
> challenged packaged, network television news with its slick format;
> and perhaps most importantly, they saw video as a collaborative,
> social medium, a people’s media: encouraging viewer participation
> through the free and immediate exchange of ideas and images.
>
>  
>
> Networked Conversations
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> Networked Conversations is a series of live, online interviews and
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence.org Archive Lives On

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Re: [NetBehaviour] I saw this from Annie. It made me sad...and curious

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Re: [NetBehaviour] chapter on "We have a situation!" in book on global civic engagement

[helen varley jamieson]

thank you ruth!! :)

i hope you managed to get in while it was free. the price for even a
single chapter is prohibitively expensive, it makes me very sad that the
publishing industry choose to make our work so inaccessible (especially
when we authors are not paid a penny by the publisher). it's surely not
a sustainable model.

h : /

On 5/12/16 6:58 26PM, ruth catlow wrote:
> Thanks Helen,
>
> I've got this queued up and am ready to pounce on this link :)
>
> In my view "We have a Situation" is a very important project. It goes
> deep, and involves people creatively with the work of co-constructing
> and performing rhetoric on political topics that directly impact their
> lives. It's at the other end of the continuum of online activism from
> social media clicktivism.
>
> best
> Ruth
>
>
> On 05/12/16 17:39, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>>
>> hi everyone,
>>
>> my chapter "We have a Situation! Cyberformance and Civic
>> Engagement in Post-Democracy" is about to be published in the book
>> "Convergence of Contemporary Art, Visual Culture, and Global Civic
>> Engagement", edited by Ryan Shin.
>>
>> the chapter documents the political cyberformance project "We have a
>> situation!", specifically focusing on the "situation" in Rio de
>> Janeiro last year (which looked at the water pollution crisis in the
>> context of the build-up to the olympics), & examines how
>> cyberformance can promote proto-political engagement and
>> post-democratic citizen activism (with a look at how mainstream
>> social media is NOT doing this).
>>
>> the publishers are offering a 3-day free access period to promote the
>> book, from tuesday 6 december. if you are interested, you can find it
>> at the following link:
>> http://services.igi-global.com/resolvedoi/resolve.aspx?doi=10.4018/978-1-5225-1665-1
>>
>> the official info is this:
>>
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>>> publication I contributed to, /Convergence of Contemporary Art,
>>> Visual Culture, and Global Civic Engagement, / for the next three
>>> days!//Starting Tuesday, December 6th, 2016, the entire publication
>>> will be open and free to access through IGI Global’s InfoSci®
>>> Platform. Electronic access will close on Thursday, December 8th,
>>> 2016, at 11:59 pm EST. Please follow the link below to take
>>> advantage of this unique opportunity. Upon entering the platform,
>>> please simply create an account and log in, or log in with a
>>> preexisting account.
>>>
>>> *Access the content at the following link:
>>> http://services.igi-global.com/resolvedoi/resolve.aspx?doi=10.4018/978-1-5225-1665-1*
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>>> After reviewing this content, please consider recommending the title
>>> to your library. If you have any questions or concerns, you may
>>> contact the IGI Global Marketing Department at
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>> enjoy!
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>> 24 November 2016
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[NetBehaviour] chapter on "We have a situation!" in book on global civic engagement

[helen varley jamieson]

hi everyone,

my chapter "We have a Situation! Cyberformance and Civic
Engagement in Post-Democracy" is about to be published in the book
"Convergence of Contemporary Art, Visual Culture, and Global Civic
Engagement", edited by Ryan Shin.

the chapter documents the political cyberformance project "We have a
situation!", specifically focusing on the "situation" in Rio de Janeiro
last year (which looked at the water pollution crisis in the context of
the build-up to the olympics), & examines how cyberformance can promote
proto-political engagement and post-democratic citizen activism (with a
look at how mainstream social media is NOT doing this).

the publishers are offering a 3-day free access period to promote the
book, from tuesday 6 december. if you are interested, you can find it at
the following link:
http://services.igi-global.com/resolvedoi/resolve.aspx?doi=10.4018/978-1-5225-1665-1

the official info is this:

> IGI Global is allowing the research community to access the
> publication I contributed to, /Convergence of Contemporary Art, Visual
> Culture, and Global Civic Engagement, / for the next three
> days!//Starting Tuesday, December 6th, 2016, the entire publication
> will be open and free to access through IGI Global’s InfoSci®
> Platform. Electronic access will close on Thursday, December 8th,
> 2016, at 11:59 pm EST. Please follow the link below to take advantage
> of this unique opportunity. Upon entering the platform, please simply
> create an account and log in, or log in with a preexisting account.
>
> *Access the content at the following link:
> http://services.igi-global.com/resolvedoi/resolve.aspx?doi=10.4018/978-1-5225-1665-1*
>
> After reviewing this content, please consider recommending the title
> to your library. If you have any questions or concerns, you may
> contact the IGI Global Marketing Department at
> market...@igi-global.com <mailto:market...@igi-global.com>.  
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[NetBehaviour] "We have a situation, Coventry!": live online, Thursday 24 November, 7pm UK time

[helen varley jamieson]

hi everyone,

"We have a situation, Coventry!
<http://www.wehaveasituation.net/?page_id=1414>" takes place live online
in UpStage, on *Thursday 24 November at 7pm UK time*. 

"We have a situation, Coventry!" is the sixth event in the ongoing
networked performance series "We have a situation!
<http://www.wehaveasituation.net/>", which uses cyberformance to address
topical local/global issues. This "situation" explores the
university-city relationship in Coventry. As the university rapidly
grows and dominates the centre of the city, what is happening to the
social relationships between the local citizens and the staff and
students of the university? What does the university bring to Coventry,
and what does the town give to the university? What is gained or lost in
the process?

The event on Thursday 24th consists of a cyberformance followed by a
live discussion between local participants at the Shopfront Theatre in
Coventry and online participants from around the world. The
cyberformance is being created by university students and Coventry
locals during a week-long workshop, led by Helen Varley Jamieson who is
currently International Artist in Residence at Coventry University's
Disruptive Media Learning Lab.

A live link to the online stage will be available here
<https://upstage.org.nz/?event=we-have-a-situation-coventry> and here
<http://www.wehaveasituation.net/?page_id=1414> shortly before the
performance time; find your local time here
<https://tinyurl.com/z464k6y>. Everyone is welcome!

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Re: [NetBehaviour] neoscenes - live for le placard: basilisk ...

[helen varley jamieson]

+1 :)


On 9/10/16 8:14 00PM, John Hopkins wrote:
> On 09/Oct/16 03:59, ruth catlow wrote:
>
>> Is it against the spirit of the thing to make recordings?
>
> sometimes -- there is the "you had to be there" concept for live
> performative events and happenings and such, but these days I often
> will record my outgoing stream partly simply because I can (with
> Nicecast), and partly to be able to listen later and consider
> improvements on the next improv, and then to document the creative
> output -- although documentation does carry that onerous burden of
> sucking energy out of a be-here-now intention.

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Re: [NetBehaviour] technological sorcery | Technology is Not Neutral

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eld [furtherfiel...@gmail.com
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> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 4:58 PM
>
> Subject: [NetBehaviour] The tireless enchantment of technological
> sorcery | Ars Electronica 2016 Review.
>
> The tireless enchantment of technological sorcery | Ars
> Electronica 2016 Review.
>
> By #KissMyArs - http://bit.ly/2ctU82g
>
> A participant asks how Ars Electronica, one of the longest
> standing and biggest media arts festivals in the world, has found
> itself so far distanced from the political concerns surrounding
> technology?
>
> "The alchemists of our time, or as I like to call them 'Dumb
> wizards', are continuing to design and exhibit technological
> achievements in self-fulfilling speculative words that have very
> little concern, consideration or critique with any relevant social
> issues of our time. Excluding the CyberArts exhibition (curated by
> Genoveva Rückert), which I thought was a top selection of some of
> the best media art works of the last years, Ars Electronica is
> predominantly occupied by interactive spectacles that neglect to
> examine the social & political impact of technology."
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Re: [NetBehaviour] The artist is typing

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often what you can't see is much more interesting than what you can see :)


On 2/09/16 9:18 23PM, Edward Picot wrote:
> I like it! I was initially disappointed, like others, that it was only
> going to indicate whether Guido was typing or not, rather than let us
> see his text - but then I went online and had a look at it, and
> initially got a grey-on-white screen telling me that he wasn't typing,
> which changed all of a sudden to a white-on-green screen saying that
> he was, and then it switched back and forth between the two screens
> several times in quick succession, which was oddly exciting and also
> oddly physical, as if you could hear him breathing. It's very elegant,
> in a way that it wouldn't be if you could see the text; and also the
> sense that somebody is there one minute, palpable, and that you've
> lost contact with them the next, is more visceral than I expected.
>
> I also love Bjorn's response, which completely boggled my mind.
>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] What the hell with Snapchat?? Help!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcjtEKNP05c


On 30/08/16 12:14 57PM, Gill Davies wrote:
> Well said, Ruth!
>
> On 30 August 2016 at 10:24, ruth catlow <ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org
> <mailto:ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org>> wrote:
>
> I now work on the assumption that anything that i do using social
> media is allowing profit-driven corporations to reach into my
> person, harvest parts of my subjective experience even I didn't
> know about, for their own profit, and at the risk of alienating my
> current selves from my future selves.
>
> long live clunky email discussion lists : )
>
> putting (a little part of) human experience out of the reach of
> the machines - ha hah!
>
>
>
> On 30/08/16 00:16, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
>
> Agree with you but this seems particularly intrusive;
> basically, it wants to take control of one's life -
>
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2016, John Hopkins wrote:
>
>
> Help - am I missing something? This is what Snapchat
> can access
> on my PC if I install it - it seems like a serious
> invasion of
> privacy. Any comments greatly appreciated - Alan
>
>
> at this point, anything on social media is going to to
> this and more -- no need to be surprised, eh, Alan? more
> data = more $$ -- it's nauseating imho.
>
> is there any 'net privacy available anymore? doesn't seem
> like it...
>
> jh
>
>
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[NetBehaviour] Fwd: [faces-l] FW: MEDIA RELEASE: International movement started 1991 in Adelaide celebrates 25 years

[helen varley jamieson]

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Subject:[faces-l] FW: MEDIA RELEASE: International movement started
1991 in Adelaide celebrates 25 years
Date:   Wed, 10 Aug 2016 23:00:07 +
From:   Josephine Starrs 
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From: Julianne Pierce 
>
Date: Wednesday, 10 August 2016 10:34 am
To: bucketmedia >, 
doll yoko >, Josephine Starrs 
>
Subject: MEDIA RELEASE: International movement started 1991 in Adelaide 
celebrates 25 years

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 9 August 2016

INTERNET PIONEERS VNS MATRIX CELEBRATE 25 YEARS OF THEIR CYBERFEMINIST MANIFESTO

The computer art group VNS Matrix are acknowledged as internet pioneers. The 
group of four artists formed in Adelaide in 1991 and created ’A Cyberfeminist 
Manifesto for the 21st Century’ with cyberfeminism going on to become an 
international movement.

Before the world wide web, these visionary artists were creating artworks that 
investigated the role and representation of women in technology.

Influenced by cyberpunk, video games and French feminist theory, VNS Matrix 
playfully imagined a virtual world populated by female cyborgs, super heroines 
and malevolent multinational corporations.

Their first major commissioned work was a 6metre x 3metre billboard of the 
‘Cyberfeminist Manifesto’ that was mounted on the exterior of Tin Sheds 
Gallery, City Road Sydney for a month during 1991. Before the days of social 
media, this image was photographed and sent around the world, while the 
manifesto was printed and distributed across Australia and internationally. The 
manifesto was translated by fans of VNS Matrix into Russian, Finnish, Japanese, 
German, Italian, Spanish and Euskera (Basque).

The group created the large scale installation ALL NEW GEN that included a 
computer game, light boxes, sound works, video and performance. The game and 
exhibition ALL NEW GEN has been shown in Adelaide, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, 
Darwin, Helsinki, Linz, Bilbao, Cannes, Amsterdam, St Petersburg, New York, 
Chicago and Minneapolis.

The work of VNS Matrix is now taught in universities and is still exhibited 
around the world and published in journals and textbooks. Two members of the 
group, FRANCESCA DA RIMINI and JULIANNE PIERCE, are based in Adelaide with 
VIRGINIA BARRATT based in northern NSW and JOSEPHINE STARRS in Sydney,

VNS Matrix are re-forming for a one-off performance of ‘A Tender Hex for the 
Anthropocene' at the ‘Femflix’ exhibition, 6.30pm Wednesday 10th August at 
Sydney College of the Arts. A compilation of VNS Matrix video and sound work is 
included in the exhibition that runs until 3rd September.

‘Femflix’ captures the unique voices of 90s feminist screen culture and is 
curated by Jacqueline Milner, Jane Schneider and Deborah Szapiro.

For further details contact Julianne Pierce
julia...@internode.on.net
mob: 0419 260 390


FEMLIX
Exhibition Hours
Thursday 11 August – Saturday 3 September
Monday – Friday 11am-5pm
Saturdays 11am-4pm

Where
SCA Galleries
Sydney College of the Arts
The University of Sydney
Kirkbride Way, off Park Drive,
Lilyfield, NSW (enter opposite Cecily Street)

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[NetBehaviour] Mika ‘Lumi’ Tuomola 1971-2016

[helen varley jamieson]

yesterday i learned of the death of mika "lumi" tuomola, a finnish new
media artist. maybe some of you on this list have known him.

i only met mika once in person, but he was a close friend of my Avatar
Body Collision colleague leena saarinen, & was quite often in the
background of our rehearsals so he was very present in my life during
those years. i remember him as a funny and smart guy who was
enthusiastic about experimenting & trying out different ways of using
new technologies in creative ways. he often gave us feedback or other
support for our work.

mika made a significant contribution to the development of interactive
media arts. in the 90s he wrote & directed one of the first online
interactive dramas, & in 2006 in collaboration with leena saarinen he
developed "accidental lovers", an interactive TV series where viewers
could influence the plot by sending text messages from their mobile
phones. he became a professor at Politecnico di Milano in 2015.

http://arts.aalto.fi/en/current/news/2016-06-09-002/

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[NetBehaviour] online performance art festival

[helen varley jamieson]

hi,

the other day i was informed about an online performance art festival,
http://www.onlineperformanceart.com/, unfortunately too late to catch
any of it. (it claims to be the first such festival in the world, which
is amusing ;) )

patrick lichty is in the programme - patrick, can you tell us anything
about it? did you watch as well as participate? do you know the organisers?

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Networking the Unseen Video

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On 7/07/16 11:39 05AM, marc garrett wrote:
> >Why has our working definition of ‘technology’ become so narrow? We
> have such tunnel vision, sometimes…
it's the manipulation of language in order to exercise control. so many
words have been manipulated like this, from "creative" to "freedom" & so
on. it's probably not a new phenomenon, but maybe it's become more
pervasive ...
>
> For my PhD, in 2013 I uploaded a draft paper called ‘Hack Value’ where
> the study explores aspects of technological and physical forms of
> hacking. https://marcgarrett.org/2013/07/27/hack-value/
>
> The paper argues that hacking is not only a special and mysteriously,
> technical skill, but is a way of thinking around blockages by
> oppressors, and has been used by grass roots cultures (in the UK) for
> hundreds (even thousands) of years. The thesis refers the True
> Levellers and the Diggers and other examples of imaginative dissent.
> Also, there has been writing on the subject by Kathleen Kennedy in her
> book in 2009 called ‘Medieval Hackers’-
> https://punctumbooks.com/titles/medieval-hackers/
>
> The thing is, it’s not about the ‘little boy rebel’ thing, as some may
> presume. It’s more about connecting up with people who share similar
> values, whilst adapting to the forces trying to block such an very
> emancipatory need happening. And thus, particular actions need to take
> place which are grounded and not merely gestures that relate to:
> breaking into and opening up closed systems, changing a context or
> situation, highlighting an issue, finding ways around problems,
> changing defaults, and restructuring things.
>
> And this where I think my own and various peers who we’ve been working
> with connect up. Way back, we realised technology was not the utopia
> that certain ‘innovation’ gurus, either believed or pretended was true.
>
> And, like you I think Jampijinpa’s pithy comment, when he said “…this
> so-called technology”. As you say, is true.
>
> This is what’s so amazing about working different people from places
> that are completely different to our Westernised canons or sets of
> belief systems. When their voices are heard, the context of what is
> learned and rediscovered, resonates deeply beyond the traditional
> shallowness of the ‘art market’ dominated world, as well as the soiled
> sheen of corporate nonsense that blinds us all from building real
> alliances with others on our own terms.
>
> Wishing you well.
>
> marc
>
> On 6 July 2016 at 20:16, Gretta Louw <gretta.elise.l...@gmail.com
> <mailto:gretta.elise.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks so much for this - a lovely summary! I especially get a
> kick out of Jampijinpa’s pithy comment about “…this so-called
> technology”. It’s so true. Why has our working definition of
> ‘technology’ become so narrow? We have such tunnel vision, sometimes…
>
> g.
>
>
>> On 06 Jul 2016, at 12:00, furtherfield <furtherfiel...@gmail.com
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>> Networking the Unseen Video.
>>
>> This video was taken at Networking the Unseen opening event at
>> Furtherfield Gallery (London) on Friday 17 June 2016.
>> https://vimeo.com/173324435
>>
>> Featuring Artists: Gretta Louw, Lily Hibberd, Brook Andrew,
>> Curtis Taylor, Jenny Fraser, Sharon Nampijinpa Anderson and the
>> Warnayaka Art Centre.
>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] #PostRefArt

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. 
>>>
>>> The ramifications for life in the UK after the EU referendum are still very 
>>> unclear. Parliamentary politics is in meltdown and the direction of travel 
>>> for future government seems to be further right, the economy is looking 
>>> precarious, meanwhile a toxic wave of overt public racist violence is 
>>> spreading across the country. It is tempting to think that we are entering 
>>> a disturbingly illiberal dystopia. Artists cannot sit by or remain in a 
>>> bubble while this happens, the necessity of responding to this situation is 
>>> urgent, but what can we do, what are we doing?
>>>
>>> The purpose of this discussion is twofold:
>>> - Firstly and most simply to make connections, to share information about 
>>> what we are doing in response as part of our practice, to share news and 
>>> information of any exhibitions or opportunities to produce public responses 
>>> to the current situation.
>>> - Secondly to speculate how we might produce and present work that responds 
>>> to the current situation, what is the nature of that work, who does it 
>>> address, and where will it be exhibited.
>>>
>>> We invite and welcome your action, thoughts, and ideas.
>>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] To Turbulence

[helen varley jamieson]

yes, very well put ruth & marc, thank you; i agree with it all.

now stop looking at your email & get back to enjoying your holiday!

h : )

On 12/05/16 6:27 45PM, Johannes Birringer wrote:
> This tribute to Turbulence, so eloquently written by our friends Ruth and 
> Marc,
> needs to be wholeheartedly underwritten -. I found it very moving. 
>
> thank you
>
> Johannes Birringer
> 
>
> Hi Helen and Jo,
>
> We’re writing this while on holiday with a dodgy Internet connection, and too 
> much to do which has nothing to do with being on holiday.
>
> However, on hearing that Turbulence is winding down, we had to respond and 
> rightly, announce with others how important and brilliant your work has been 
> over the last 20 years. And, because we share similar values alongside a 
> dynamic history regarding net art, and other art projects engaged in using 
> digital networks and technology.
>
> Turbulence is great for so many reasons:
>
> -You have built through the years a fantastic database and resource of 
> newly commissioned work.
>
> -You didn’t conform to the (tediously easy) neoliberal defaults and its 
> trappings.
>
> -You supported artists not based on their privilege and status, but 
> focused on the needs of the art itself, and the context of the practice.
>
> -You helped artists new to various technologies to create & experiment 
> with new projects, on their own terms.
>
> -You expressed a genuine interest in the artists and their work, and the 
> larger community. Meaning the artists were not just data, or fodder.
>
> -You made an effort to understand the artworks and the contexts behind 
> them.
>
> -You allowed digital art movements to develop in their own ways and 
> actively supported them. Not because it was trendy, but because it was 
> excellent and interesting in its own right. That takes guts.
>
> -You’ve been open to a wider international community beyond limitations 
> of race, gender, religion, and especially the ogres of nationalism and 
> centralization.
>
> Your decision to end Turbulence of course represents something very 
> significant to many people allover the world.
>
> To us, this news gives rise to an extra feeling of unhappiness as a long-time 
> ally and friend leaves us to fend alone. It has been a real pleasure having 
> you out there. Turbulence was and still is, an org that has a heart and soul. 
> You offered us integrity and generosity.
>
> And, even though it is an end of an era as many are saying, it is the start 
> of others (hopefully) giving you something back, by including Turbulence in 
> their histories and much much more...
>
> Wishing you well.
>
> Marc and Ruth from Furtherfield.
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[NetBehaviour] New book: "Political Cyberformance: The Etheatre Project" by Christina Papagiannouli

[helen varley jamieson]

hi everyone,

i'd like to draw your attention to a new book about cyberformance that
has just been published.

"Political Cyberformance: The Etheatre Project" by Christina
Papagiannouli is based on her PhD which investigates the application of
Brecht's theatre methodologies to political cyberformance. As well as an
in-depth analysis of her own cyberformance work, examples of a range of
other cyberformance works give a good historical context from the Hamnet
Players to recent experiments by British theatre companies, and she
draws conclusions that have broader digital media/culture application.
It's an important addition to the growing body of literature around
cyberformance, networked performance and the wider field of digital
performance and internet culture.

you can order the book here:
https://www.palgrave.com/us/book/9781137577030 (it's an academic
publication, so is unfortunately quite expensive; but if you're working
in the field of theatre/performing arts, media, internet culture,
politics, etc. then it is definitely worth checking out, & hopefully
university libraries will purchase it).

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Turbulence to end

[helen varley jamieson]

it is sad news indeed, i hope it will be archived somewhere. and written
about. i agree with giselle, it's vital that the early history of
net.art gets recorded - multiple times, and in multiple discordant
voices. we see so many situations of younger artists "discovering"
things that we were all doing 10+years ago; of course everyone should
and will make their own discoveries, but not so that previous work gets
invisibilised.

john, such documentation won't change the traces in our bodies :) it's
for those who don't have these bodily traces.

h : )


On 8/05/16 4:55 09AM, John Hopkins wrote:
> On 07/May/16 18:23, giselle beiguelman wrote:
>> one more chapter of net art 1.0 blowing in the wind.
>> things like that convince me that is urgent to write the history of
>> net art
>> before the 2.0 hype.
>
> Nah, don't reify that which cannot be re-presented. Leave the net to
> its vaporous, unstable, transient, and vital be-ing... Best to have
> the traces of human networks left only in the body... and this too
> shall pass away...
>
> jh
>
> otoh: I wonder if they will archive the web site somewhere? have to
> contact Helen about that...
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Exhibition: Networking the Unseen @Furtherfield 18 June - 14 August 2016

[helen varley jamieson]

great! it's in my diary, i will do my best to tune in.

h : )


On 6/05/16 2:29 57PM, Gretta Louw wrote:
> Thanks Helen and Michael - and most of all to Ruth, Marc and team!
> Very excited about this project debuting at Furtherfield, it's been a
> very long time in the making.
>
> Helen, from what I've heard the event on the 6th of Aug will be streamed!
>
> Looking forward to hopefully meeting a lot of you (netbehaviourists)
> over the summer in London.
>
> Thanks,
> Gretta 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 06 May 2016, at 00:45, helen varley jamieson
> <he...@creative-catalyst.com <mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com>> wrote:
>
>> yes it does! happily i'll be in london again while the exhibition is
>> on :)
>>
>> any chance the symposium on 6 august will have an online component???
>>
>> h : )
>>
>>
>> On 5/05/16 1:05 47PM, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
>>> Gosh this sounds absolutely great!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 5 May 2016, at 10:55, furtherfield <furtherfiel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Networking the Unseen
>>>>
>>>> Private view: Friday 17 June 2016, 6-9pm (register)
>>>> From 18 June - 14 August 2016
>>>> Open 11am-5pm, Saturday-Sunday or by appointment
>>>> http://www.furtherfield.org/programmes/programmes/networking-unseen
>>>>
>>>> Five culturally and geographically disparate Australian artists –
>>>> Gretta Louw, Jenny Fraser, Lily Hibberd, Brook Andrew, and Curtis
>>>> Taylor – and artists, including Neil Jupurrurla Cook, Isaiah
>>>> Jungarrayi Lewis, and Sharon Nampijinpa Anderson from the Warnayaka
>>>> Art Centre in Central Australia, present work situated at the
>>>> intersection between avant garde digital, media, and installation
>>>> art, the sociological study of digital and networked culture, and
>>>> activism.
>>>>
>>>> Networking the Unseen is the first exhibition of its kind to focus
>>>> on the intersection of indigenous cultures and zeitgeist digital
>>>> practices in contemporary art. While digital networks manifest
>>>> physically as tonnes of cabling, and electrical or electronic
>>>> devices, the social and cultural impacts of the networks remain
>>>> somehow invisible, eroding clearly felt boundaries of geography,
>>>> place, culture and language.
>>>>
>>>> Together with artist and curator Gretta Louw, Furtherfield presents
>>>> an exhibition and event series that brings together concepts and
>>>> experiences of remoteness and marginalised cultures, with
>>>> art-making in contemporary society. It proposes a radical
>>>> rethinking of widely accepted stereotypes concerning the impact of
>>>> networks on contemporary global cultures, digital art, the avant
>>>> garde, and indigenous art-making. It tackles subjects ranging from
>>>> digital colonialism and cultural marginalisation (or, conversely,
>>>> diversity/empowerment) within an increasingly connected, online
>>>> world to universal concerns around cultural change as a result of
>>>> technological migration. The exhibition extends our focus to the
>>>> extremities of the global digital network. It subtly proposes ways
>>>> to claim power back from centralising forces of control to use
>>>> these tools for positive change; for intercultural exchange and
>>>> empowerment for marginalised communities.
>>>>
>>>> Tags: activism art, exhibition, digital print, installation,
>>>> collaboration, digital art, digital colonialism, digitalisation,
>>>> multi-disciplinary networks, social and cultural geography…
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Exhibition: Networking the Unseen @Furtherfield 18 June - 14 August 2016

[helen varley jamieson]

yes it does! happily i'll be in london again while the exhibition is on :)

any chance the symposium on 6 august will have an online component???

h : )


On 5/05/16 1:05 47PM, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
> Gosh this sounds absolutely great!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 5 May 2016, at 10:55, furtherfield <furtherfiel...@gmail.com
> <mailto:furtherfiel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Networking the Unseen
>>
>> Private view: Friday 17 June 2016, 6-9pm (register)
>> From 18 June - 14 August 2016
>> Open 11am-5pm, Saturday-Sunday or by appointment
>> http://www.furtherfield.org/programmes/programmes/networking-unseen
>>
>> Five culturally and geographically disparate Australian artists –
>> Gretta Louw, Jenny Fraser, Lily Hibberd, Brook Andrew, and Curtis
>> Taylor – and artists, including Neil Jupurrurla Cook, Isaiah
>> Jungarrayi Lewis, and Sharon Nampijinpa Anderson from the Warnayaka
>> Art Centre in Central Australia, present work situated at the
>> intersection between avant garde digital, media, and installation
>> art, the sociological study of digital and networked culture, and
>> activism.
>>
>> Networking the Unseen is the first exhibition of its kind to focus on
>> the intersection of indigenous cultures and zeitgeist digital
>> practices in contemporary art. While digital networks manifest
>> physically as tonnes of cabling, and electrical or electronic
>> devices, the social and cultural impacts of the networks remain
>> somehow invisible, eroding clearly felt boundaries of geography,
>> place, culture and language.
>>
>> Together with artist and curator Gretta Louw, Furtherfield presents
>> an exhibition and event series that brings together concepts and
>> experiences of remoteness and marginalised cultures, with art-making
>> in contemporary society. It proposes a radical rethinking of widely
>> accepted stereotypes concerning the impact of networks on
>> contemporary global cultures, digital art, the avant garde, and
>> indigenous art-making. It tackles subjects ranging from digital
>> colonialism and cultural marginalisation (or, conversely,
>> diversity/empowerment) within an increasingly connected, online world
>> to universal concerns around cultural change as a result of
>> technological migration. The exhibition extends our focus to the
>> extremities of the global digital network. It subtly proposes ways to
>> claim power back from centralising forces of control to use these
>> tools for positive change; for intercultural exchange and empowerment
>> for marginalised communities.
>>
>> Tags: activism art, exhibition, digital print, installation,
>> collaboration, digital art, digital colonialism, digitalisation,
>> multi-disciplinary networks, social and cultural geography…
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Rojava campaign powered by female:pressure

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rgly uninformed global public. All women and
> feminists are the target group to acknowledge the inspirational,
> revolutionary work undertaken by the women of Rojava and re-think
> their stance on feminism, equality and justice. By putting art and
> music in the centre-point of this campaign, we believe we can have a
> wide reach to a range of different people. We have already been
> successful with wide press coverage from online music publications, as
> well as a large audience including many young people who attended a
> panel event organised by female:pressure around this campaign at CTM
> Festival Berlin, in February 2016. female:pressure stands for an
> inclusive feminism which promotes dialogue and visibility for women.
> Since female:pressure is a large international network, the networking
> can achieve a world wide spreading of information.
>
> Challenges we encountered were that many women and men were concerned
> about the militarized content. female:pressure artists are against
> violence and war. However, discussions evolved through listening to
> the women in the war zones towards an understanding that pacifism is a
> choice for the privileged. Although peace and equality are ultimately
> desired, the women fighters are forced to fight as a matter of
> survival. Many women were impressed by the bravery of these women
> fighters. Overwhelmingly, women have come out in support of the
> inspiring vision to build a gender equal, multi-ethnic society from
> the bottom-up.
> White western academic feminism has been criticised in favour of
> building an equal world on the ground, and resisting a
> universalisation of white feminism's values particularly where complex
> historical, politico-economic, ethnic and religious issues are at stake. 
> The recent attacks on civilians in Turkey claimed by the militant
> Kurdish organization TAK, and their alleged links to the PKK have
> added to this complex situation. We have continued to discuss with
> some members continuing their show of solidarity to the Rojava
> revolution (limited to their use of warfare for self-defense), and
> others sceptical of this potential connection.  
>
> female: pressure works on a voluntary basis and no money was involved,
> except the income we generated through the CTM panel and the Bandcamp
> compilation which was completely donated to Rojava support funds.
>
> CTM Festival, Berlin, supported the project and helped creating a
> broad public.
> Many newspapers and radio stations have published the actions.
>
> Norient, a network for global sounds and media culture, invited us to
> contribute to their exhibition.
>
> The project holds a vision that we can build bridges out of privileged
> Western societies and work together on common goals, such as equality.
> It shows how people who live under very different conditions can
> co-exist and listen to each other. It is important that we collaborate
> and build real life connections. These events are unfolding by the day
> and demonstrate the fragility in the region which is war-torn and
> under severe threat. Women in the Syrian war face death, sexual abuse,
> extreme violence and sexual slavery. It has been said that these women
> build a new vision for the region but also for the whole world.
> female:pressure has contributed to make this struggle audible in the
> west. The project is extraordinary for the awareness it has raised so
> far, as well as the new connections between activists and artists in
> the Middle East and all over the world which have resulted.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> sound & curation
>
> AGF: @poemproducer
> www.poemproducer.com <http://www.poemproducer.com>
> www.antyegreie.com <http://www.antyegreie.com>
>
> https://soundcloud.com/agf-antye-greie
> https://agf-poemproducer.bandcamp.com/
> https://vimeo.com/channels/poemproducer/
>
> NEW ALBUM: Kon:3p>UTION to: e[VOL]ution: AGF solo album May 2016
> https://agf-poemproducer.bandcamp.com/album/kon-3p-ution-to-e-vol-ution
>
> MASHmix
> https://www.mixcloud.com/poemproducer/greim-kon-king-and-queen-warriors-from-the-worldwide/
>
> Music, Awareness & Solidarity with #Rojava powered by female:pressure 
> http://www.femalepressure.net/rojava.html
>
> FIELD WORK (sonic wild{er}ness)
> http://fieldnotes.hybridmatters.net/posts/sonic-wild-code
> https://vimeo.com/channels/poemproducer/139911900
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Re: [NetBehaviour] "A Natural History of Sound" this Thursday

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break a digit, john!

(i will check out the archive afterwards, as it's 4am for me ... )

h : )

On 31/03/16 6:38 25AM, John Hopkins wrote:
> Howdy folks -- forgive the xposting!
>
> This is a heads-up on a live-streamed performance and not-too-long
> public presentation I will be giving on Thursday evening (7-8:30 PM --
> PST, GMT-8) at the Natural History Institute at Prescott College.
>
> Full info & times at:
>
> http://wp.me/prVzk-kLG
>
> The stream link is:
>
> http://livestream.com/prescottcollege/events/4739637
>
> Tap in -- I want to blow their stream stats outta the water ;-)
>
> Enjoy, & thanks!
>
> CHeers,
> JOhn
>
> PS - please don't count how may times I say "um" ... it's an ... ummm
> ... bad habit ...
>
> PPS - for those of you who are 'sound' people, this is a *very* quick
> intro to the intersection of sound, energy, bio-systems, and
> creativity ...
>

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Re: [NetBehaviour] seeking advice on linux laptops & text animation software

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thanks, looks interesting! i will explore tomorrow ... :)

On 22/03/16 6:43 45PM, BishopZ wrote:
> VDMX is a low cost & very powerful solution for animating text & video
> for live performance.
>
> https://vidvox.net/
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Rob Myers <r...@robmyers.org
> <mailto:r...@robmyers.org>> wrote:
>
> On 2016-03-22 06:41, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>
> hi everyone,
>  i am seeking advice on 2 questions:
>
>  firstly, i need to upgrade my laptop & have decided to make the
> transition to linux. mint has been recommended to me for the
> OS. does
> anyone out there have any advice regarding choice of hardware?
> ideally
> i want a small laptop with a dvd drive, ethernet port, & separate
> audio in & out ports.
>
>
> No DVD drive (I use an external one) but I've been using ThinkPads
> running Debian GNU/Linux for several years now.
>
> Adding GNU/Linux to an old laptop is usually a good way of
> extending its life *if* the hardware is fully supported.
>
> The only problem with laptops for GNU/Linux are generally graphics
> acceleration (Intel graphics tend to be good for this) and Free
> wifi drivers (if you're not worried about this it's much easier,
> although I just have a replacement wifi board in my current laptop
> that works entirely with Free Software).
>
>  secondly, i'm working on an installation which includes projected
> animated text. previously i've done this in a basic but
> effective way
> with powerpoint. this time, i want more control over the
> animations
> than powerpoint allows, and it needs to be a looping video as it's
> going to be left running on its own. can anyone recommend a good
> software for text animation? (preferably open source).
>
>
> Depending on the text and the time investment, Blender can be good
> for creating and editing animations. It's not always the easiest
> software to use though.
>
> - Rob.
>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] seeking advice on linux laptops & text animation software

[helen varley jamieson]

thanks very much rob. i think blender is probably a bit more than i need
(but one day i'd like to try & get my head around it ... ). i got a
recommendation from another list for something called sozi, which is
apparently animated slides (sounds like an open source powerpoint
perhaps) - i'll check out that & have also downloaded synfig to try
tomorrow.

actually i hadn't thought of putting linux on my my existing laptop;
it's an idea - but i'm expecting to have to have a transition period of
some months, & still have quite a few things that i need certain
software on the mac to do ... & not enough space to partition the hard
drive ... so i will have a look at thinkpads.

h : )

On 22/03/16 6:41 10PM, Rob Myers wrote:
> On 2016-03-22 06:41, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>> hi everyone,
>>  i am seeking advice on 2 questions:
>>
>>  firstly, i need to upgrade my laptop & have decided to make the
>> transition to linux. mint has been recommended to me for the OS. does
>> anyone out there have any advice regarding choice of hardware? ideally
>> i want a small laptop with a dvd drive, ethernet port, & separate
>> audio in & out ports.
>
> No DVD drive (I use an external one) but I've been using ThinkPads
> running Debian GNU/Linux for several years now.
>
> Adding GNU/Linux to an old laptop is usually a good way of extending
> its life *if* the hardware is fully supported.
>
> The only problem with laptops for GNU/Linux are generally graphics
> acceleration (Intel graphics tend to be good for this) and Free wifi
> drivers (if you're not worried about this it's much easier, although I
> just have a replacement wifi board in my current laptop that works
> entirely with Free Software).
>
>>  secondly, i'm working on an installation which includes projected
>> animated text. previously i've done this in a basic but effective way
>> with powerpoint. this time, i want more control over the animations
>> than powerpoint allows, and it needs to be a looping video as it's
>> going to be left running on its own. can anyone recommend a good
>> software for text animation? (preferably open source).
>
> Depending on the text and the time investment, Blender can be good for
> creating and editing animations. It's not always the easiest software
> to use though.
>
> - Rob.
>
>

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Re: [NetBehaviour] seeking advice on linux laptops & text animation software

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that is great to hear, alan. it really annoys me that my current laptop,
a mere 6 years old, is reaching the end of its life because it's not
possible to further upgrade the operating system. i remember a while
back talk of the 50 year old laptop, & that is what i aspire to have!

h : )

On 22/03/16 5:25 53PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> Hi - possibly slightly off the specs, but I use Mint on an old netbook
> with 2 g ram etc. from around 2010 and it runs fine, some troubles
> with windows, but even runs a version of Second Life. I have linux on
> two old Sharp Zauruses from around 2000-2002 that I still use because
> of specialized software, no problem. So just about any laptop with 4g
> ram made in the last, say, 3 years, should do really well.
>
> - Alan
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2016, marc garrett wrote:
>
>> Hi Helen,
>>
>> What size laptop are you after?
>>
>> marc
>>
>> On 22 March 2016 at 13:41, helen varley jamieson
>> <he...@creative-catalyst.com> wrote:
>>   hi everyone,
>>   i am seeking advice on 2 questions:
>>
>>   firstly, i need to upgrade my laptop & have decided to make the
>>   transition to linux. mint has been recommended to me for the OS.
>>   does anyone out there have any advice regarding choice of
>>   hardware? ideally i want a small laptop with a dvd drive,
>>   ethernet port, & separate audio in & out ports.
>>
>>   secondly, i'm working on an installation which includes
>>   projected animated text. previously i've done this in a basic
>>   but effective way with powerpoint. this time, i want more
>>   control over the animations than powerpoint allows, and it needs
>>   to be a looping video as it's going to be left running on its
>>   own. can anyone recommend a good software for text animation?
>>   (preferably open source).
>>
>>   all ideas much appreciated,
>>   h : )
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>>
>>
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>>
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>> http://www.furtherfield.org - for art, technology and social change
>> since
>> 1996
>>
>> Furtherfield Gallery & Commons,
>> Finsbury Park, London N4 2NQ
>> T +44(0)208 802 1301/+44(0)208 802 2827
>> M +44(0)7533676047
>> www.furtherfield.org
>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] seeking advice on linux laptops & text animation software

[helen varley jamieson]

thanks pall, i will chech out synfig :)

re the dvd drive: i realise they are becoming increasingly uncommon;
more than once i've been in the situation at a festival or conference
where someone has urgently needed to burn a dvd in order to present
something or play something in a performance, & no-one else except me
has had a dvd burner in their laptop. i use it sometimes to burn things
to post, i like to watch dvds on my laptop in bed, & i have a lot of
stuff backed up on cds & dvds which i do sometimes need to view. i have
several times found it useful when i've been travelling to have a
built-in one, but i probably could live with a separate dvd drive.

h : )

On 22/03/16 4:11 26PM, Pall Thayer wrote:
> Are you really sure that you need a DVD drive? They're becoming
> increasingly uncommon on laptops. I recently updated my laptop to
> a Toshiba Satellite S55T-B5150. I'm running Ubuntu and everything
> works well and it's super fast. It comes with 16gb of ram which is not
> upgradeable and there's no DVD option. 16gb is plenty for me and it
> comes with an ssd drive which really helps with the speed.
>
> Synfig Studio (http://www.synfig.org/cms/) is a good vector-based
> animation package that is easy to use.
>
> Pall
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:45 AM marc garrett <marc.garre...@gmail.com
> <mailto:marc.garre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Helen,
>
> What size laptop are you after?
>
> marc
>
> On 22 March 2016 at 13:41, helen varley jamieson
> <he...@creative-catalyst.com <mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com>>
> wrote:
>
> hi everyone,
> i am seeking advice on 2 questions:
>
> firstly, i need to upgrade my laptop & have decided to make
> the transition to linux. mint has been recommended to me for
> the OS. does anyone out there have any advice regarding choice
> of hardware? ideally i want a small laptop with a dvd drive,
> ethernet port, & separate audio in & out ports.
>
> secondly, i'm working on an installation which includes
> projected animated text. previously i've done this in a basic
> but effective way with powerpoint. this time, i want more
> control over the animations than powerpoint allows, and it
> needs to be a looping video as it's going to be left running
> on its own. can anyone recommend a good software for text
> animation? (preferably open source).
>
> all ideas much appreciated,
> h : )
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> http://www.furtherfield.org - for art, technology and social
> change since 1996
>
> Furtherfield Gallery & Commons,
> Finsbury Park, London N4 2NQ
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Re: [NetBehaviour] seeking advice on linux laptops & text animation software

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small - my current one is a 13" & previously i had a 12". i travel with
it quite a lot & use it in performance situations so small & light is good.

h : )

On 22/03/16 3:44 54PM, marc garrett wrote:
> Hi Helen,
>
> What size laptop are you after?
>
> marc
>
> On 22 March 2016 at 13:41, helen varley jamieson
> <he...@creative-catalyst.com <mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com>> wrote:
>
> hi everyone,
> i am seeking advice on 2 questions:
>
> firstly, i need to upgrade my laptop & have decided to make the
> transition to linux. mint has been recommended to me for the OS.
> does anyone out there have any advice regarding choice of
> hardware? ideally i want a small laptop with a dvd drive, ethernet
> port, & separate audio in & out ports.
>
> secondly, i'm working on an installation which includes projected
> animated text. previously i've done this in a basic but effective
> way with powerpoint. this time, i want more control over the
> animations than powerpoint allows, and it needs to be a looping
> video as it's going to be left running on its own. can anyone
> recommend a good software for text animation? (preferably open
> source).
>
> all ideas much appreciated,
> h : )
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>
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[NetBehaviour] seeking advice on linux laptops & text animation software

[helen varley jamieson]

hi everyone,
i am seeking advice on 2 questions:

firstly, i need to upgrade my laptop & have decided to make the
transition to linux. mint has been recommended to me for the OS. does
anyone out there have any advice regarding choice of hardware? ideally i
want a small laptop with a dvd drive, ethernet port, & separate audio in
& out ports.

secondly, i'm working on an installation which includes projected
animated text. previously i've done this in a basic but effective way
with powerpoint. this time, i want more control over the animations than
powerpoint allows, and it needs to be a looping video as it's going to
be left running on its own. can anyone recommend a good software for
text animation? (preferably open source).

all ideas much appreciated,
h : )
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[NetBehaviour] anti-TPPA protests in nz

[helen varley jamieson]

late last night - or rather, early this morning, i watched a live stream
from auckland of protests against the TPPA signing (the TPPA is the
pacific equivalent of the european TTIP). you can see the footage here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bcab6Q8B_g

the nz government was hosting a behind-closed-doors ceremonial signing
of the TPPA in auckland with the 12 other pacific nations involved.
there were protests all over the country, including about 15,000 people
in auckland where the march was led by maori performing the haka. these
were local iwi (tribes) who had been asked by the government to perform
a powhiri (maori welcome) for the signing of the TPPA (a powhiri is
standard protocol for significant events in nz) - but the iwi refused
and chose instead to lead the march. there was a big maori presence & a
forest of tino rangitiratanga flags (red & black flag of maori
sovereignty - & much nicer than the logo-like option the government is
currently trying to force through as our new flag) & an overwhelming
atmosphere of strong, unified opposition to the TPPA and the way the
government has handled it.

february 6th is waitangi day in aotearoa/new zealand - the anniversary
of the signing of the treaty of waitingi in 1840 between maori tribes
(not all of them) and representatives of the british crown. it's a
public holiday in nz, some see it as a celebration & others as a day of
mourning / contemplation about colonisation. there is always a major
ceremony at te tii marae in waitangi, which the prime minister
traditionally attends. there is often some element of protest or
controversy around it & this year it has been pretty much about the
TPPA. as a result, our dickhead prime minister john key, who is busy
signing away aoteaora/new zealand to coroporate colonisation, has
decided not to go. maori objection to the TPPA is mainly over the lack
of consultation, but also concerns that the TPPA will breach the treaty
of waitangi (which it absolutely will).

i felt proud to see the huge public opposition to the TPPA, with people
from all walks of life & everyone that the reporter spoke to was very
well-informed. the signing of the TPPA is purely ceremonial, it still
has to go through the legal processes in each of the 12 nations, so
there is still hope that the whole thing will collapse.

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Re: [NetBehaviour] #rojava

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 body is one of the most important symbolic
> battlegrounds between modernizers and reactionaries. Today, here
> in Syria, this fight is to death.
> > “The gangs of Daesh want the woman to be a slave. They don’t
> consider us as human beings but only as objects to serve men and
> to satisfy his specific needs. They ostentatiously sell women as
> slaves as if they were animals”. The girl I speak with is Nupelda,
> 20 years old and serves in a mobile company of the Women’s
> Protection Units (YPJ) on the front line. This is the army of
> women in the autonomous administration of Rojava, fighting side by
> side with men in the YPG. Both forces are under the control and
> command of PYD. Nupelda has been fighting for two years now."
> >
> > I am thinking how to call for solidarity for Rojava revolution
> and eventually lift of PKK ban in EU...
> >
> > just thoughts...
> >
> > *
> > AGF: @poemproducer / .com
> > in order: antyegreie.com <http://antyegreie.com>
> >
> >
> > On 9 Dec 2015, at 01:59, Ana Valdés <agora...@gmail.com
> <mailto:agora...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I was as many of you know at the conference of Women in Black in
> India. Women from Afghanistan Congo Bosnia and Armenia shared with
> us dark stories of rape forced marriages and impunity we need to
> strengthen the civil societies the question is how to achieve it?
> If the changes are made with weapons and soldiers (female or
> male), we are always prisoners of the weapons and wars as metaphors...
> > Ana
> >
> > Den 6 dec 2015 08:11 skrev "AGF poemproducer"
> <a...@poemproducer.com <mailto:a...@poemproducer.com>>:
> > hi,
> >
> > I spent last days reading and studying the kurdish female
> fighters and their efforts to built an independent equal and just
> state in north east syria… i am a pacifist in my deepest structure
> but have been challanged and confused by what is happening there…
> if you need to read up look for hashtags #Rojava
> >
> > any thoughts ?
> >
> > (i find this article a good sum up)
> >
> >
> 
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/11/25/rojava_is_a_radical_experiment_in_democracy_in_northern_syria_american_leftists.html
> >
> > "I recently spoke to someone from the Kurdish women’s movement
> in Rojava and asked what they need most. She said they need a
> massive international solidarity campaign, beginning with
> political education about the evolution of the PKK and its
> politics, including its emphasis on democratic governance,
> anti-sectarianism, secularism, ecology, and women’s liberation. In
> practical terms, they need all possible international pressure to
> be put on Turkey and the KRG to end the embargo and let supplies
> through. They need the terrorist designation to be lifted so they
> can travel and raise money and do public speaking."
> >
> > some more…
> >
> >
> 
> http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/02/remembering-murray-bookchin/<http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/02/remembering-murray-bookchin/>
> >
> >
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Protection_Units<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Protection_Units
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Protection_Units>
> >
> > maybe this is also a good thing/ althought americans all over
> this, but maybe for the right reasons for a change
> >
> 
> https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Presidents_Obama_and_Hollande_Prime_Ministers_Cameron_and_Turnbull_Help_the_Kurds_cut_off_ISILs_route_to_Europe/?wTXkYjb
> >
> > http://thelionsofrojava.com/index.php/join/
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Join Neterarti - it's like twitter but for art.

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ok; it's not so difficult really! :)

On 22/01/16 2:46 55AM, Rob Myers wrote:
> On 2016-01-21 09:50, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>> following people is a bit unintuitive; isn't there a way to follow
>> someone from a post?
>
> Sadly not (with this theme), you first have to go to the user's
> profile page by clicking on their name above the post.
>
> - Rob.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Join Neterarti - it's like twitter but for art.

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following people is a bit unintuitive; isn't there a way to follow
someone from a post?

otherwise, great! :)

On 21/01/16 6:16 37AM, Rob Myers wrote:
> On 20/01/16 08:44 PM, Ana Valdés wrote:
>> I don't find any "follow" button. I want stalk a lot of great ppl :)
> At the top right there's a carefully hidden "Subscribe" button on
> people's profile pages (e.g. https://neterarti.furtherfield.org/marc ).
>
> There's a block button under that as well for the opposite scenario. :-)
>
> - Rob.
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[NetBehaviour] I-BODY - Lisbon, on Waterwheel tonight, January 20, 21 p.m. (GMT)

[helen varley jamieson]

hi everyone,
if you have time to tune in this evening, here is some student
cyberformance work:

I-BODY - Lisbon, Wednesday January 20, 21 p.m. (GMT)
An experimental cyberformance in the platform Water-Wheel Tap with
students of Digital Performance about the relation between body/identity
and technology. Students of Lusófona University, Lisbon. Professor Clara
Gomes.
Several on-camera scenes commenting on our stressful contemporary
relationship with technology are separated by relaxing water and nature
sounds.
In Portuguese.
Click on this link: http://water-wheel.net/taps/page/831  and ENTER.

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Re: [NetBehaviour] nada debut album release

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congratulations roger :)

On 15/12/15 10:25 48PM, Roger Mills wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> A bit of shameless promotion here but I would like to flag that my duo
> nada, with fellow Ethernet Orchestra collaborator Hervé Perez, have
> just released our debut album Mirror Image yesterday on the London
> based Linear Obsessional Recordings. 
>
> It was recorded in Germany last December as part of the Club Instabil
> event in Braunschweig that Hervé and I had been invited to perform at.
>
> It was also the first time that we had met in person after years of
> playing together online, and I think it reflects the maturity of the
> creative relationship we had developed over the network. 
>
> So, if you fancy a festive season punctuated by a little bit of
> challenging free improvisation you can stream or download for free
> from  https://linearobsessional.bandcamp.com/album/mirror-image
> <fromhttps://linearobsessional.bandcamp.com/album/mirror-image>
>
> As always we welcome any comments or feedback
>
> Have a great break and best wishes for the new year !
>
> Roger
>
>
> --
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>
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>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] #rojava

[helen varley jamieson]

john, evolution and change are not only possible, they are inevitable.
there was a time before these systems existed (not really so long ago,
in the greater scheme of things) and there will be a time after.
unfortunately it probably won't be in our life time & i'm not placing
any bets on how long it will take, or what it will be replaced with, but
that's no reason not to strive for something better.

your eternal optimist,
h : )

On 9/12/15 2:51 49AM, John Hopkins wrote:
> On 08/Dec/15 16:59, Ana Valdés wrote:
>> Women from Afghanistan Congo Bosnia and Armenia shared with us dark
>> stories
>> of rape forced marriages and impunity we need to strengthen the civil
>> societies the question is how to achieve it? If the changes are made
>> with
>
> Certainly fixing these problems is not compatible with any
> fundamentalist religious system -- good luck changing that -- here in
> the US, the idiots on the 'christian' fundamentalist right have been
> and are actively tearing down what seems to be a thin veneer that
> represents all the gains of civil society of the last 50 years. I
> can't imagine that this is going to be 'easier' in the context of
> radical Islamic situations, or even 'normal' Islamic societies. When
> the religious system has already in place a rigid mapping of civil
> relation and law, I don't believe an 'evolution' or 'change' is
> possible. This would apply to all Abrahamic religions at least, and
> many others as well. I don't see any possibility of evolution when
> 'the Law' is 'the Law'. Is it possible to change such social systems?
> If someone says 'yes', I'd like to hear the plan...
>
> jh
>
>
>

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Re: [NetBehaviour] #rojava

[helen varley jamieson]

thanks for these links, antje; i have heard about the female kurdish
fighters before but not much so it's very interesting to learn more
about it.

On 6/12/15 11:11 34AM, AGF poemproducer wrote:
> hi,
>
> I spent last days reading and studying the kurdish female fighters and
> their efforts to built an independent equal and just state in north
> east syria… i am a pacifist in my deepest structure but have been
> challanged and confused by what is happening there… if you need to
> read up look for hashtags #Rojava
>
> any thoughts ?
>
> (i find this article a good sum up)
>
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/11/25/rojava_is_a_radical_experiment_in_democracy_in_northern_syria_american_leftists.html
>
> "I recently spoke to someone from the Kurdish women’s movement in
> Rojava and asked what they need most. She said they need a massive
> international solidarity campaign, beginning with political education
> about the evolution of the PKK and its politics, including its
> emphasis on democratic governance, anti-sectarianism, secularism,
> ecology, and women’s liberation. In practical terms, they need all
> possible international pressure to be put on Turkey and the KRG to end
> the embargo and let supplies through. They need the terrorist
> designation to be lifted so they can travel and raise money and do
> public speaking."
>
> some more…
>
> http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/02/remembering-murray-bookchin/<http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/02/remembering-murray-bookchin/>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Protection_Units<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Protection_Units
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Protection_Units>
>
> maybe this is also a good thing/ althought americans all over this,
> but maybe for the right reasons for a change
> https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Presidents_Obama_and_Hollande_Prime_Ministers_Cameron_and_Turnbull_Help_the_Kurds_cut_off_ISILs_route_to_Europe/?wTXkYjb
>
>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] bodies of evidence, and the long reach

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yes it is completely twisted; if half that amount was invested in things
that actually helped people have better lives, instead of killing them,
it would make such a big positive difference.

my grandmother had a teatowel on her wall (from the 1970s) that read
something like "it will be a great day when schools have all the money
they need and the air force has a cake stall to raise money for a new
plane" ... sadly that day is still a long long way off :(

On 17/11/15 12:32 57PM, Ana Valdés wrote:
> I don't believe that sadly (a lack of resources of course) but I am
> going to write some texts in English Swedish and Spanish the languages
> I know.
> Btw it's funny because something we discussed yesterday was the
> horrible expansion of NATO and the pledge of all alliance members to
> earmark two pro cent of the countries budget for military expenses 7
> trillion dollars going to drones to satellite surveillance to borders
> control to fences to weapons. Only the joint manoeuvres NATO countries
> did recently at the Mediterranean costed 400 million dollars.
> Imagine that money invested in civilian infrastructure in Africa or
> India in schools food or training for young ppl.
> Something who struck me today when I was writing about this meeting
> was the double standards we have to judge things: how many ppl has
> been killed randomly by drones attendants to weddings in Yemen and
> Pakistan recently the hospital where Medecins sans frontieres was
> working etc etcetera 
> But we mourn the Paris victims killed as randomly...
> I guess that's the wrecked logic of ISIS they kill us as collateral
> damage we kill them as randomly...
> Ana
>
> Skickat från min iPhone
>
> 17 nov 2015 kl. 15:07 skrev Gretta Louw <gretta.elise.l...@gmail.com
> <mailto:gretta.elise.l...@gmail.com>>:
>
>> Thanks so much for the update Ana, sounds like such an important
>> event. Is there going to be any video documentation of the meeting
>> released, do you know? Or other written documentation?
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 16 Nov 2015, at 19:19, Ana Valdés <agora...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:agora...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Today we had a long hearing with women from Iraq Afghanistan
>>> Palestine India Sri Lanka Armenia and many other countries. Congo
>>> was specially strong since we are all a bit complice in their wars
>>> they are the world first provider of coltan and tantalum minerals
>>> needed to make drones and computers and mobile phones.
>>> Two English women Sue Finch and Liz Khan, members of women in black
>>> UK and active against NATO delivered a powerful speech about NATO
>>> selling itself as the saviour of the civilized world.
>>> Write more tomorrow nice to share with you
>>> Ana
>>> They had very powerful statements about rape as wartool displaced
>>> ppl in millions
>>>
>>> Den 16 nov 2015 17:18 skrev "helen varley jamieson"
>>> <he...@creative-catalyst.com <mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com>>:
>>>
>>> ana, if you have time it would be great to hear how the women in
>>> black encounter goes. great that you are able to attend :)
>>>
>>> On 15/11/15 5:25 50AM, Ana Valdés wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The encounter starts today check www.womeninblack.org
>>>> <http://www.womeninblack.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Den 15 nov 2015 08:06 skrev "AGF poemproducer"
>>>> <a...@poemproducer.com <mailto:a...@poemproducer.com>>:
>>>>
>>>> Ana, this sounds so very good!
>>>> happy to read this! do u have a link, more info?
>>>>
>>>>> On 13 Nov 2015, at 23:06, Ana Valdés <agora...@gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:agora...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Johannes and all it feels almost eery and weird read
>>>>> your message in the lobby of Dubai airport on my way to
>>>>> Bangalore in India where I am going to participate in a
>>>>> gathering of Women in Black an international network of
>>>>> women committed to peace and dialogue and against all kind
>>>>> of war and occupation.
>>>>> We denounced the invasion of Irak, Libia and Irak as
>>>>> illegal as much we denounced Saddam Husseins annexion of
>>>>> Kuwait and the war between Iran and Irak. We are going to
>>>>> be around 100 women from Cynthia Cocknurn ol

Re: [NetBehaviour] bodies of evidence, and the long reach

[helen varley jamieson]

that's the one! i think the teatowel was produced by CND (can't find
that on the web tho ... )

On 17/11/15 1:45 59PM, dave miller wrote:
> I agree - brilliant quote - I think this is it:
>
> http://izquotes.com/quote/66959
>
> On 17 November 2015 at 12:40, Ana Valdés <agora...@gmail.com
> <mailto:agora...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Haha such a great motto! A friend I have said once looking at one
> derelict school:
> "We are the first civilization in the world who keep our money in
> palaces and our children in shacks".
> Ana
>
> Skickat från min iPhone
>
> 17 nov 2015 kl. 18:04 skrev helen varley jamieson
> <he...@creative-catalyst.com <mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com>>:
>
>> yes it is completely twisted; if half that amount was invested in
>> things that actually helped people have better lives, instead of
>> killing them, it would make such a big positive difference.
>>
>> my grandmother had a teatowel on her wall (from the 1970s) that
>> read something like "it will be a great day when schools have all
>> the money they need and the air force has a cake stall to raise
>> money for a new plane" ... sadly that day is still a long long
>> way off :(
>>
>> On 17/11/15 12:32 57PM, Ana Valdés wrote:
>>> I don't believe that sadly (a lack of resources of course) but I
>>> am going to write some texts in English Swedish and Spanish the
>>> languages I know.
>>> Btw it's funny because something we discussed yesterday was the
>>> horrible expansion of NATO and the pledge of all alliance
>>> members to earmark two pro cent of the countries budget for
>>> military expenses 7 trillion dollars going to drones to
>>> satellite surveillance to borders control to fences to weapons.
>>> Only the joint manoeuvres NATO countries did recently at the
>>> Mediterranean costed 400 million dollars.
>>> Imagine that money invested in civilian infrastructure in Africa
>>> or India in schools food or training for young ppl.
>>> Something who struck me today when I was writing about this
>>> meeting was the double standards we have to judge things: how
>>> many ppl has been killed randomly by drones attendants to
>>> weddings in Yemen and Pakistan recently the hospital where
>>> Medecins sans frontieres was working etc etcetera 
>>> But we mourn the Paris victims killed as randomly...
>>> I guess that's the wrecked logic of ISIS they kill us as
>>> collateral damage we kill them as randomly...
>>> Ana
>>>
>>> Skickat från min iPhone
>>>
>>> 17 nov 2015 kl. 15:07 skrev Gretta Louw
>>> <gretta.elise.l...@gmail.com <mailto:gretta.elise.l...@gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>>> Thanks so much for the update Ana, sounds like such an
>>>> important event. Is there going to be any video documentation
>>>> of the meeting released, do you know? Or other written
>>>> documentation?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Nov 2015, at 19:19, Ana Valdés <agora...@gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:agora...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Today we had a long hearing with women from Iraq Afghanistan
>>>>> Palestine India Sri Lanka Armenia and many other countries.
>>>>> Congo was specially strong since we are all a bit complice in
>>>>> their wars they are the world first provider of coltan and
>>>>> tantalum minerals needed to make drones and computers and
>>>>> mobile phones.
>>>>> Two English women Sue Finch and Liz Khan, members of women in
>>>>> black UK and active against NATO delivered a powerful speech
>>>>> about NATO selling itself as the saviour of the civilized world.
>>>>> Write more tomorrow nice to share with you
>>>>> Ana
>>>>> They had very powerful statements about rape as wartool
>>>>> displaced ppl in millions
>>>>>
>>>>> Den 16 nov 2015 17:18 skrev "helen varley jamieson"
>>>>> <he...@creative-catalyst.com
>>>>> <mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> ana, if you have time it would be great to hear how the
>>>>> women

Re: [NetBehaviour] bodies of evidence, and the long reach

[helen varley jamieson]

refered the british
>> government to help when they could've sought to press for the
>> hostage's release, as other countries had done; that the
>> prime minister's hypocrisy is repulsive, and that he also
>> would "have prefered Mr Emwazi to have been brought to justice."
>> I was relieved to hear a worker bring up this idea of
>> justice, and the political processes of negotiations that may
>> precede drone strikes. In any case, I was feeling sick when
>> all this surfaced on the radio. I wonder how this
>> played out in the US or in the Middle East, in Raqqa, or
>> other towns in the region. (A commentator on the radio, and
>> there always are 'experts' to be found quickly, it seems,
>> claimed to be a professor at the "Institute of Radicalization
>> &  Political Violence," Kings College, and thought the strike
>> was great, and the drones are wonderful as their permanent
>> presence over the heads of peoples there instills fear)
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[NetBehaviour] We have (another) situation! - online performance, 7-8 November

[helen varley jamieson]

*We have (another) situation!*
Saturday 7 November, 19:00 (Rio time)
find your local time here: https://tinyurl.com/q4yfd5h
*online and onsite* at Multicidade International Festival of Women in
Theatre, Rio de Janeiro
http://www.wehaveasituation.net/

As the 2016 Olympic Summer Games draw closer, international attention is
focused on Rio de Janeiro and in particular the challenge of cleaning up
the heavily polluted waters of Guanabara Bay, where many sports will
take place. In a live online cyberformance, /*We have a situation!*/
asks questions about the quality of the water, where the pollution comes
from and what is being done about it; and connects Rio's situation to
the problem of water pollution globally. The audience, both online and
at the Multicidade Festival in Rio de Janeiro, will participate in an
open conversation around the issues raised in the performance.

Audiences around the world can join the live performance and discussion
and interact in real time via text chat. We have a situation! uses
UpStage, a purpose-built cyberformance platform which is accessible to
anyone with a standard browser and internet connection. Audiences need
only click on a link to the live stage, which will be available shortly
before the performance at http://www.wehaveasituation.net.

/*We have a situation!*/ is a series of live, trans-border,
online-offline participatory performances addressing current
cross-cultural issues. It began in 2012 as a collaboration between APO33
(Nantes), Furtherfield (London), mad emergent art centre (Eindhoven),
Schaumbad Freies-Atelierhaus (Graz) and Helen Varley Jamieson.

The Rio situation is created by Helen Varley Jamieson with online
collaborators Gabriella Sacco (Italy/Netherlands), Elaine vaan Hogue
(USA), Leti�cia Castilho (Brasil), Miljana Peric� (Serbia) and Vicki
Smith (Aotearoa New Zealand). In Rio de Janeiro, collaborators include
Multicidade workshop participants and Haveté� Sustentabilidade, a
collective addressing sustainability issues through workshops and practice.

Multicidade: http://multicidade.com/
We have a situation! http://www.wehaveasituation.net/

*We have a situation! Saturday 7 November, 19:00 **
**find your local time here: **https://tinyurl.com/q4yfd5h*
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Sign up to Quality Metrics now

[helen varley jamieson]

excellent :D

On 2/10/15 10:33 19PM, James Morris wrote:
>
> on thinking about this for all of two seconds:
> http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56031085.jpg
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> On 02/10/15 15:32, ruth catlow wrote:
>> Should Furtherfield sign up to this.
>> - Discuss please!
>> ; )
>> R
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>> Dear Ruth
>>
>>
>> Would you like to take part in an exciting nationwide project that aims
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>> your work?
>>
>>
>> Quality Metrics is a sector-led metrics framework that uses self, peer
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Re: [NetBehaviour] dismal news: After the Last Sky

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ation's incredibly complicated and not helped by
>>>>> "real guilt" or blame constantly placed, as if righteous anger
>>>>> does more than express itself; it's interesting that ISIS isn't
>>>>> even mentioned in this discussion, as if the entire situation is
>>>>> the result of neoliberal manipulation, nothing on the ground, the
>>>>> peoples in Syria for example might be complicit as best. And this
>>>>> just isn't true. Nor is it going to be the case that people will
>>>>> stop warfare, rich or poor - ISIS isn't really all that rich and
>>>>> they will continue; nor is it the case that the refugees are all
>>>>> farmers etc. - the issue is What is to be done? And this requires
>>>>> work everywhere by all parties. I don't excuse capital, neolib, or
>>>>> fundamentalist Islam for that matter; the history is horrible;
>>>>> it's terrible the US is trying to get rid of immigrants here and
>>>>> now - it's obscene - it's also obscene that Assad is killing "his"
>>>>> own country in the name of who knows what. Johannes points out the
>>>>> intrac
> t
>> a
>>> b
>>>> le - how
>>>> does a country absorb close to a million people? What's always
>>>> overlooked, I'm guilty of it more than anyone, is the inertia of
>>>> human beings - the revolution I don't think is coming in the
>>>> slightest; capital isn't going to give up capital; warfare isn't
>>>> going away; relgions aren't suddenly going to go tolerant. Don't
>>>> forget a LOT of this is driven by both overpopulation and global
>>>> warming - the dought in the mideast is worse than that in the U.S.
>>>> west for example - people everywhere are running out of space and
>>>> food. I would hope in Europe the situation might revolve around an
>>>> EU effort to see the problem as a totality, not X- refugees in
>>>> Germany, Y- in France, etc. etc. I would also HOPE TO HELL that the
>>>> United States (here I spell US out) would open itself to taking in
>>>> refugees as well - but look at our history - even the Jews were
>>>> turned away during WWII.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can't keep going over our local psychogeographies, I think, no
>>>>> matter how much they inform us; being a Jew, losing people in the
>>>>> Holocaust, for me is _meaningless_ in this regard, not in terms
>>>>> obviously of mourning what transpired - but this very thing
>>>>> perhaps suffocates an ability to see a bit clearer - again - What
>>>>> is to be done? And why is everyone blamed but ISIS? And isn't this
>>>>> kind of a problematic colonization itself - how dare we blame them
>>>>> for anything?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Alan
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[NetBehaviour] Audio-visual streaming in UpStage: next Open Walkthrough, 7 September

[helen varley jamieson]

hi everyone,
the next open walkthrough will take place on monday 7 september and will
focus on audio-visual streaming in UpStage: how to set up and send a
stream from your webcam  mic, and how to create and operate a stream
avatar in UpStage.

*Monday 7 September
**21:00 CET (find your local time here https://tinyurl.com/oqva55c)
*Open Walkthrough stage link http://upstage.org.nz:8083/stages/walkthrough

Email i...@upstage.org.nz if you would like a guest login for this session.

Participants will need to download the FMLE
https://www.adobe.com/products/flash-media-encoder.html before the
session; this is a free encoder application. If you are on Linux, you
can use VLC https://videolan.org/vlc/.

If you have time, it will be helpful to read the section “Introduction
to Streaming” on page 46 of the draft UpStage v3 User Manual
http://upstage.org.nz/blog/wp-content/uploads/upstagev3usermanualdraft.pdf.
There is also a video https://vimeo.com/69239857 that walks through
the process (this is a couple of years old now but most things are the
same).

more info here: http://upstage.org.nz/blog/?p=6482

we look forward to seeing you on the 7th,
helen  vicki :)

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[NetBehaviour] looking for environmental groups/activists in rio de janeiro

[helen varley jamieson]

hi everyone,
i'm working on another situation (http://www.wehaveasituation.net),
this time on the topic of water pollution in rio de janeiro -
specifically in the context of the 2016 olympic games, some of which
will be held in the very polluted guanabara bay, and the lack of action
from authorities to clean up the water; we'll also be looking at the
wider issues of water pollution.

i want to get in contact with environmental groups, activists and others
in rio who are working on this issue already, or interested in working
on it, to be able to understand the real local issues around this
situation. if you know any groups or people in rio who might be
interested, please let me know or pass on this email.

i'll be in rio for 2 weeks from 24th october,  the situation is being
created  presented at the Multicidades festival of women's performance
(http://multicidade.com/) with a workshop running from 2-6 november and
performance on the evening of 7th november.

the performance will of course be online (live) as well as in rio, so
you can all join it :)

helen : )
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[NetBehaviour] easy email list for small group?

[helen varley jamieson]

hi everyone,
can anyone recommend an easy  free way to set up an email list for a
small (around 100 people) arts group?

i don't want to use google groups,  we really only need a mailing list
- where everyone in the group can post, manage their subscription,
receive digests or single emails, access archives etc. mailman  phplist
are ideal but i don't know of a free host server. it could be some other
online platform but i want something that's open source  free.

i had a look at https://wiggio.com/  it looks pretty good, but it's
based at a u.s. university. does anyone know of anything similar that
isn't based in the u.s.?

thanks,
h : )
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Re: [NetBehaviour] CHDH - EGREGORE SOURCE LIVE | REMOTE PERFORMANCE - 27 MAY 2015 AT 21H CEST (UTC+2)

[helen varley jamieson]

thanks, good to hear :)
i will install the software  check it out when i have time.

h : )

On 28/05/15 1:06 06PM, ~rybn wrote:
 hey helen

 just a quick feedback, it went really well for most users/audience.

 all performance data were recorded,
 the archive is accessible within the software itself.

 x





 On 25/05/2015 22:36, helen varley jamieson wrote:
 this looks really interesting, but alas i will not be able to join at
 that time. i'd be interested to hear how it goes from anyone who
 catches it.

 h : )

 On 25/05/15 6:21 25PM, artkillart wrote:
 CHDH - EGREGORE SOURCE LIVE
 REMOTE PERFORMANCE - 27 MAY 2015 AT 21H CEST (UTC+2)

 The egregore - source instrument will be played live remotely by
 chdh for a one time only performance.
 To attend the show you only need a computer, the egregore software
 installed and an Internet connection.
 http://www.chdh.net/egregore_source_live.php

 _

 The source code of the egregore performance is made fully
 available as a software to download, or as a usb key. This remote
 performance aims to exploit the physical dispersion of this digital
 support, in order to develop a broadcasting structure for a
 networked audiovisual performance, played on Wed. 27th May 2015, 21H
 CEST.

 The multiple personal computers hosting the software constitute a
 distributed stage, where the artists will be able to interpret
 egregore remotely by sending a data flow that activate the
 provided software. These control data are then stored on a server,
 and remain accessible and usable with the software.

 DETAILS

 - The instrument in your computer will receive in real time the
 control parameters played in Malakoff - France.
 - All the computing is done locally on your computer, therefore
 every resulting sound and video will be slightly different.
 - We have a chat for the audience to discuss in real time: #chdh on
 freenode.net http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=%23chdh
 - The time is 21H CEST (UTC+2) and not 21H CET (UTC+1)
 - Your computer must be connected to Internet, and egregore - source
 must have access to port 80


 

 LOCAL / VENUES

 There is a few venues broadcasting the show in real time
 ПОДГОТОВЛЕННЫЕ СРЕДЫ
 http://soundartist.ru/ps-07/- DIFF BAR - MOSCOW - RUSSIA
 DIFFUSIO #23 http://f-o-r-m-e-s.blogspot.fr/- PAD - ANGERS - FRANCE
 F/LAT http://f-lat.org- 1000 PLATEAUX - BRUSSELS - BELGIUM
 UCHRONIES - MALAKOFF - FRANCE
 LFO/TRANSISTOR http://lfofablab.org- FRICHE BELLE DE MAI -
 MARSEILLE - FRANCE
 TETALAB http://www.tetalab.org/- MIXART - TOULOUSE - FRANCE
 LABOMEDIA http://labomedia.org- ORLEANS - FRANCE
 METALAB http://metalab.fr/- RETICULAR ART CENTER - ST ETIENNE - FRANCE
 ...

 If you plan to broadcast the show, contact us, we'll add your venue
 to the list

 _

 More informations :
 http://www.chdh.net/egregore_source_live.php

 Release  download :
 http://www.chdh.net/egregore_source.php




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Re: [NetBehaviour] CHDH - EGREGORE SOURCE LIVE | REMOTE PERFORMANCE - 27 MAY 2015 AT 21H CEST (UTC+2)

[helen varley jamieson]

this looks really interesting, but alas i will not be able to join at
that time. i'd be interested to hear how it goes from anyone who catches it.

h : )

On 25/05/15 6:21 25PM, artkillart wrote:
 CHDH - EGREGORE SOURCE LIVE
 REMOTE PERFORMANCE - 27 MAY 2015 AT 21H CEST (UTC+2)

 The egregore - source instrument will be played live remotely by chdh
 for a one time only performance.
 To attend the show you only need a computer, the egregore software
 installed and an Internet connection.
 http://www.chdh.net/egregore_source_live.php

 _

 The source code of the egregore performance is made fully available
 as a software to download, or as a usb key. This remote performance
 aims to exploit the physical dispersion of this digital support, in
 order to develop a broadcasting structure for a networked audiovisual
 performance, played on Wed. 27th May 2015, 21H CEST.

 The multiple personal computers hosting the software constitute a
 distributed stage, where the artists will be able to interpret
 egregore remotely by sending a data flow that activate the provided
 software. These control data are then stored on a server, and remain
 accessible and usable with the software.

 DETAILS

 - The instrument in your computer will receive in real time the
 control parameters played in Malakoff - France.
 - All the computing is done locally on your computer, therefore every
 resulting sound and video will be slightly different.
 - We have a chat for the audience to discuss in real time: #chdh on
 freenode.net http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=%23chdh
 - The time is 21H CEST (UTC+2) and not 21H CET (UTC+1)
 - Your computer must be connected to Internet, and egregore - source
 must have access to port 80


 

 LOCAL / VENUES

 There is a few venues broadcasting the show in real time
 ПОДГОТОВЛЕННЫЕ СРЕДЫ
 http://soundartist.ru/ps-07/- DIFF BAR - MOSCOW - RUSSIA
 DIFFUSIO #23 http://f-o-r-m-e-s.blogspot.fr/- PAD - ANGERS - FRANCE
 F/LAT http://f-lat.org- 1000 PLATEAUX - BRUSSELS - BELGIUM
 UCHRONIES - MALAKOFF - FRANCE
 LFO/TRANSISTOR http://lfofablab.org- FRICHE BELLE DE MAI - MARSEILLE
 - FRANCE
 TETALAB http://www.tetalab.org/- MIXART - TOULOUSE - FRANCE
 LABOMEDIA http://labomedia.org- ORLEANS - FRANCE
 METALAB http://metalab.fr/- RETICULAR ART CENTER - ST ETIENNE - FRANCE
 ...

 If you plan to broadcast the show, contact us, we'll add your venue to
 the list

 _

 More informations :
 http://www.chdh.net/egregore_source_live.php

 Release  download :
 http://www.chdh.net/egregore_source.php




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Re: [NetBehaviour] The General Election

[helen varley jamieson]

yes, time for electoral reform in the uk!

On 10/05/15 10:44 45PM, dave miller wrote:
 Greens blame Tory majority on Labour's willingness to accept the
 narrative of its opponents
 The Green party's economic spokesperson reflects on Labour and the
 media's pandering to the the Tory narrative.

 http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/greens-blame-tory-majority-labours-willingness-accept-narrative-its-opponents

 On 10 May 2015 at 19:50, if a...@aharonic.net
 mailto:a...@aharonic.net wrote:


 Quoting helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com
 mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com:

 yup, i do agree about card deck rearrangements ...
 interesting about tory-greens in the uk, i don't think that's
 the case
 in nz.


 I'd take the view re greens in the uk with a pinch of salt made of
 the fact they are a rather sizable tent with various shades, that
 I personally have more views than a political insight, and that
 the focus was re brighton local greens.

 cheers!

 ahaxxx



 h : )

 On 9/05/15 5:51 39PM, if wrote:

 hi,

 yes - we are still 1st past post, most votes are better as
 paper
 planes, kind of electoral sequences.

 the greens.. i live in the constituency of the 1st, only
 and ever
 more popular - locally it seems - green mp. (she cares not
 for art 
 culture unless its entertaining..)

 Being green here in the uk is, imho, a bit like an
 environmentally
 romantique Tory of the 19th century. A strong sense of
 moral duty and
 care for the perceived natural while looking for
 ideologically
 inspired solution within paradigms of power and capital.
 Indeed, if
 the local elections are any indication to varify/falsify that
 green-tory lineage, i noticed that when greens came to rule in
 brighton, they did it via wards that were previously tory
 held. Ex
 Cons found it rather easy to switch into greens than
 Labour's voters..
 Also, local green head honcho, while sporting a cool
 sounding name
 kitkat - is, in my view, a blairite at heart. eg -
 spreading tall
 tales about local refuse cleaners' wage demands..

 ...but am digressing...

 I think point re voting and general elections, might be
 that in fact
 they are just to do with card deck re-arrangements. Civic
 processes
 from attempts to have a fearless yet melancholic life - is
 on going
 regardless of any electoral outcome. No?

 Cheers!

 xxx

 quitter.se/if http://quitter.se/if


 Quoting helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com
 mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com:

 does britain still have a first-past-the-post voting
 system? that means
 it's always going to be an either-or situation, the
 lesser of 2 evils.
 since nz adopted a proportional representation system
 in 1996, numerous
 small parties have had representation in parliament 
 currently the
 green party is the third largest with just over 10%
 (equating to 14
 seats in parliament).

 the nz system isn't perfect,  we also experienced a
 similar shock in
 the election last year when the sitting neoliberals
 cruised back in
 (this was before ponytailgate ... !!!), but at least
 we have a growing 
 viable green party to vote for, with some really good
 green MPs.

 h : )

 On 9/05/15 12:36 27AM, James Morris wrote:

 Edward said: If Labour had said 'We're going to
 look after the most
 vulnerable members of society properly, and if
 that means putting
 taxes up, we'll put taxes up' then probably they
 still wouldn't have
 won - given the overwhelmingly right-wing slant of
 most press
 coverage, not to mention Milliband's extreme lack
 of charisma as a
 leader - but at least we would have had a genuine
 alternative to vote
 for. I voted Green.

 an overwhelmingly right-wing slant of the media,
 and an overwhelmingly
 unsympathetic population. some of the shit i hear

Re: [NetBehaviour] General Election

[helen varley jamieson]

looks interesting :)

On 10/05/15 5:04 36PM, Anna Spencer wrote:
 Hi there,

 If anyone is interested in looking at a new initiative to consider how the 
 internet can be used as a participatory framework for building a political 
 party, have a look at the experimental Populace that I am involved in setting 
 up. It is set up to deal with one issue - widening inequality in the UK - 
 although of course the answers will no doubt be multifarious. 

 There are monthly online debates to discuss and debate policy proposals and 
 crowdsourced research. Currently these are using off the peg software whilst 
 we build our own software.

 Obviously this mailing list isn't a political one, but I thought that the 
 members may simply be interested to see how this experiment is seeking to use 
 the internet to create and collaborate, which seems to be what Net Behaviour 
 is about also.

 If you are interested please go to www.wearepopulace.uk and you can join the 
 debate though the link on there. The website and debate only went up on 
 Friday 8th and this is very much a work in progress, so any feedback very 
 welcome. The first debate is on candidate policy - how do we ensure that the 
 representatives in parliament are there to reduce inequality rather than for 
 their own purposes.

 Have a look!

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Re: [NetBehaviour] The General Election

[helen varley jamieson]

yup, i do agree about card deck rearrangements ...
interesting about tory-greens in the uk, i don't think that's the case
in nz.

h : )

On 9/05/15 5:51 39PM, if wrote:
 hi,

 yes - we are still 1st past post, most votes are better as paper
 planes, kind of electoral sequences.

 the greens.. i live in the constituency of the 1st, only and ever
 more popular - locally it seems - green mp. (she cares not for art 
 culture unless its entertaining..)

 Being green here in the uk is, imho, a bit like an environmentally
 romantique Tory of the 19th century. A strong sense of moral duty and
 care for the perceived natural while looking for ideologically
 inspired solution within paradigms of power and capital. Indeed, if
 the local elections are any indication to varify/falsify that
 green-tory lineage, i noticed that when greens came to rule in
 brighton, they did it via wards that were previously tory held. Ex
 Cons found it rather easy to switch into greens than Labour's voters..
 Also, local green head honcho, while sporting a cool sounding name
 kitkat - is, in my view, a blairite at heart. eg - spreading tall
 tales about local refuse cleaners' wage demands..

 ...but am digressing...

 I think point re voting and general elections, might be that in fact
 they are just to do with card deck re-arrangements. Civic processes
 from attempts to have a fearless yet melancholic life - is on going
 regardless of any electoral outcome. No?

 Cheers!

 xxx

 quitter.se/if


 Quoting helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com:

 does britain still have a first-past-the-post voting system? that means
 it's always going to be an either-or situation, the lesser of 2 evils.
 since nz adopted a proportional representation system in 1996, numerous
 small parties have had representation in parliament  currently the
 green party is the third largest with just over 10% (equating to 14
 seats in parliament).

 the nz system isn't perfect,  we also experienced a similar shock in
 the election last year when the sitting neoliberals cruised back in
 (this was before ponytailgate ... !!!), but at least we have a growing 
 viable green party to vote for, with some really good green MPs.

 h : )

 On 9/05/15 12:36 27AM, James Morris wrote:
 Edward said: If Labour had said 'We're going to look after the most
 vulnerable members of society properly, and if that means putting
 taxes up, we'll put taxes up' then probably they still wouldn't have
 won - given the overwhelmingly right-wing slant of most press
 coverage, not to mention Milliband's extreme lack of charisma as a
 leader - but at least we would have had a genuine alternative to vote
 for. I voted Green.

 an overwhelmingly right-wing slant of the media, and an overwhelmingly
 unsympathetic population. some of the shit i hear coming out of
 peoples mouths is utterly depressing - the self righteous
 [anti-racists amongst others] swap one set of prejudices for another.

 i voted green even though i expected if i told anyone i'd be informed
 it was a wasted vote, or laughed at/sneered at/looked-down-a-nose-at,
 by people in my life. some people say who you vote for isn't meant to
 be talked about. sometimes think i should grow the balls to say i
 voted green, but have played it safe so far.

 a wasted vote is a tactical vote for one party you don't want to vote
 for to prevent another party you don't want to vote for, imo.

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Re: [NetBehaviour] The General Election

[helen varley jamieson]

does britain still have a first-past-the-post voting system? that means
it's always going to be an either-or situation, the lesser of 2 evils.
since nz adopted a proportional representation system in 1996, numerous
small parties have had representation in parliament  currently the
green party is the third largest with just over 10% (equating to 14
seats in parliament).

the nz system isn't perfect,  we also experienced a similar shock in
the election last year when the sitting neoliberals cruised back in
(this was before ponytailgate ... !!!), but at least we have a growing 
viable green party to vote for, with some really good green MPs.

h : )

On 9/05/15 12:36 27AM, James Morris wrote:
 Edward said: If Labour had said 'We're going to look after the most
 vulnerable members of society properly, and if that means putting
 taxes up, we'll put taxes up' then probably they still wouldn't have
 won - given the overwhelmingly right-wing slant of most press
 coverage, not to mention Milliband's extreme lack of charisma as a
 leader - but at least we would have had a genuine alternative to vote
 for. I voted Green.

 an overwhelmingly right-wing slant of the media, and an overwhelmingly
 unsympathetic population. some of the shit i hear coming out of
 peoples mouths is utterly depressing - the self righteous
 [anti-racists amongst others] swap one set of prejudices for another.

 i voted green even though i expected if i told anyone i'd be informed
 it was a wasted vote, or laughed at/sneered at/looked-down-a-nose-at,
 by people in my life. some people say who you vote for isn't meant to
 be talked about. sometimes think i should grow the balls to say i
 voted green, but have played it safe so far.

 a wasted vote is a tactical vote for one party you don't want to vote
 for to prevent another party you don't want to vote for, imo.

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Symposium Documentation Available

[helen varley jamieson]

thanks very much for putting together all this documentation, randall
(as well as organising the whole event of course!). it's great to be
able to hear steve dixon's keynote at a civilised hour of the day :) 
lots more still to come ...

h : )

On 27/04/15 11:29 36AM, Randall Packer wrote:
 Greetings Everyone:

 The video documentation for the Art of the Networked Practice | Online
 Symposium is now accessible from the Program + Archives page on the
 symposium Website: 

 http://oss.adm.ntu.edu.sg/symposium2015/program/

 Each video is accompanied by the relevant program information. We have
 also included a pdf of each chat transcript which many of participated in.

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Re: [NetBehaviour] curious student etc

[helen varley jamieson]

hi mayke,
this may or may not be relevant, but the discussion this month on empyre
is games  representation; i haven't been following it closely so as far
as i know there hasn't been anything about actual exhibitions or art
projects in games, but the guests are games researchers  developers so
perhaps something will come up. (http://empyre.library.cornell.edu)

h : )

On 8/04/15 6:09 33PM, dave miller wrote:
 I was a big fan of Art Strike. Still think it's a great idea

 On 8 April 2015 at 17:05, John Hopkins chaz...@gmail.com
 mailto:chaz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 08/Apr/15 08:42, Michael Szpakowski wrote:

 Way back in 2002 there was the splendid quot; velvet strikequot;
 intervention in counter strike
 http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/works/velvet-strike/


 And don't forget Art Strike a decade before that in 1990-93

 http://psrf.detritus.net/pdf/yawn.pdf

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Updated Schedule for NetArtizens Discussion

[helen varley jamieson]

yes true, that's great :) but still more fun  interesting to be an
active participant ...

On 2/04/15 10:16 05AM, Antye Greie-Ripatti wrote:
 at least its recorded


 On Apr 2, 2015, at 11:12 AM, helen varley jamieson
 he...@creative-catalyst.com mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com wrote:

 well damn damn and triple damn!! i need to know the night before if i
 have to be at the keyboard before 10am ... i have yet to refine the
 ESP while sleeping function in my dream cycle.

 so disappointed to have missed it! :(

 On 2/04/15 7:44 15AM, ruth catlow wrote:
 Yes Netbehaviourists
 That's now!
 well... in 18 minutes from now.

 To Access: Adobe Connect Webconferencing
 https://ntu.adobeconnect.com/symposium2015

 Hope you can join us to review and celebrate with us the Netartizen
 project!

 : )
 R

 On 01/04/15 23:01, Randall Packer wrote:
 There has been a sudden cancellation of the keynote by Lev Manovich
 today,
 Thursday April 2, at the Art of the Networked Practice | Online
 Symposium.
 As a result, we are moving the ³Net Behaviors² discussion  two hours
 early. Info below, you can join us and participate in a live
 discussion of
 the NetArtizens Project:

 Thursday, April 2, 2:00 PM ­ 3:30 PM (Singapore Time) (-12 hours East
 Coast US, -7 hours UK, -6 hours Central Europe, +3 hours Sydney)
 Virtual Roundtable Global Exchange: ³Net Behaviors²

 In the final session, we will host an open dialogue for all
 participants
 and attendees, local and remote. As a synthesis of ideas and
 aspirations
 raised throughout the symposium, as well as the month long NetArtizens
 Project http://www.furtherfield.org/netartizens/, we will examine
 how
 today¹s Net practitioners, or what we might refer to as
 ³Netartizens,² are
 signaling a changing approach to artistic production, research, and
 teaching. In the age of social media, our conversations,
 discourses, and
 artistic work are ³intertwingled² (to use Ted Nelson¹s playful
 term) with
 exponentially exploding repositories of media and information:
 nowadays,
 our everyday communications are embedded with the metadata of search
 queries, hyperlinks, hashtags and usernames. To the extent that we
 practice, challenge, and assimilate the rapidly evolving systems and
 techniques of the network, we will examine and dissect the resulting
 impact on our individual and collective ³Net behaviors.²

 Moderator:

 * Randall Packer, Visiting Associate Professor, School of Art,
 Design 
 Media, Nanyang Technological University

 Commentators:

 * Vibeke Sorensen, Chair, School of Art, Design  Media, Nanyang
 Technological University
 * jonCates, Chair and Associate Professor of Film, Video and New
 Media,
 School of the Art Institute of Chicago
 * Ruth Catlow  Marc Garrett, Co-founders  Co-directors,
 Furtherfield,
 London

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Updated Schedule for NetArtizens Discussion

[helen varley jamieson]

well damn damn and triple damn!! i need to know the night before if i
have to be at the keyboard before 10am ... i have yet to refine the ESP
while sleeping function in my dream cycle.

so disappointed to have missed it! :(

On 2/04/15 7:44 15AM, ruth catlow wrote:
 Yes Netbehaviourists
 That's now!
 well... in 18 minutes from now.

 To Access: Adobe Connect Webconferencing
 https://ntu.adobeconnect.com/symposium2015

 Hope you can join us to review and celebrate with us the Netartizen
 project!

 : )
 R

 On 01/04/15 23:01, Randall Packer wrote:
 There has been a sudden cancellation of the keynote by Lev Manovich
 today,
 Thursday April 2, at the Art of the Networked Practice | Online
 Symposium.
 As a result, we are moving the ³Net Behaviors² discussion  two hours
 early. Info below, you can join us and participate in a live
 discussion of
 the NetArtizens Project:

 Thursday, April 2, 2:00 PM ­ 3:30 PM (Singapore Time) (-12 hours East
 Coast US, -7 hours UK, -6 hours Central Europe, +3 hours Sydney)
 Virtual Roundtable Global Exchange: ³Net Behaviors²

 In the final session, we will host an open dialogue for all participants
 and attendees, local and remote. As a synthesis of ideas and aspirations
 raised throughout the symposium, as well as the month long NetArtizens
 Project http://www.furtherfield.org/netartizens/, we will examine how
 today¹s Net practitioners, or what we might refer to as
 ³Netartizens,² are
 signaling a changing approach to artistic production, research, and
 teaching. In the age of social media, our conversations, discourses, and
 artistic work are ³intertwingled² (to use Ted Nelson¹s playful term)
 with
 exponentially exploding repositories of media and information: nowadays,
 our everyday communications are embedded with the metadata of search
 queries, hyperlinks, hashtags and usernames. To the extent that we
 practice, challenge, and assimilate the rapidly evolving systems and
 techniques of the network, we will examine and dissect the resulting
 impact on our individual and collective ³Net behaviors.²

 Moderator:

 * Randall Packer, Visiting Associate Professor, School of Art, Design 
 Media, Nanyang Technological University

 Commentators:

 * Vibeke Sorensen, Chair, School of Art, Design  Media, Nanyang
 Technological University
 * jonCates, Chair and Associate Professor of Film, Video and New Media,
 School of the Art Institute of Chicago
 * Ruth Catlow  Marc Garrett, Co-founders  Co-directors, Furtherfield,
 London

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Updated Schedule for NetArtizens Discussion

[helen varley jamieson]

it was patrick who suggested performience :)

annie's email yesterday (or the day before?) reminded me of the french
use of assist for being in the audience, which i like a lot. audience
as assisters (rather than assistants which is a bit hierarchical)
(also assisters has a nice feminist touch to it ;) )

h : )

On 2/04/15 1:50 19PM, ruth catlow wrote:

 Sorry everyone about the shift in schedule- The change was due to a
 cancellation, due to family emergency, of an earlier speaker.

 I will find out and let you know when the video will be online.
 But Helen is right, it just isn't the same!

 It is a lovely format- MUCH more fun than the traditional conference
 speaker experience of standing in a darkened auditorium in a spot
 light - quaking on the inside, while attempting to project some kind
 of weird authority.

 It's so friendly - that the online chatting audience can heckle and
 joke and ridicule while 'speakers' 'speak' ;)
 In this case the online audience or performience as I think Helen
 and Randall termed it, held a fascinating parallel debate throughout
 the event. I learned a lot!

 : )R



 On 02/04/15 10:24, Daniel Pinheiro wrote:
 Hello! 

 Unfortunately my working shedule didn't allow for me to watch the
 whole symposium. Where can we find the recordings?

 Thank you for this great event


 Daniel Pinheiro

 http://daniel-pinheiro.tumblr.com
 .:+351918814598
 Skype: dapinheiro1

 On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:40 AM, helen varley jamieson
 he...@creative-catalyst.com mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com wrote:

 yes true, that's great :) but still more fun  interesting to be
 an active participant ...

 On 2/04/15 10:16 05AM, Antye Greie-Ripatti wrote:
 at least its recorded


 On Apr 2, 2015, at 11:12 AM, helen varley jamieson
 he...@creative-catalyst.com
 mailto:he...@creative-catalyst.com wrote:

 well damn damn and triple damn!! i need to know the night
 before if i have to be at the keyboard before 10am ... i have
 yet to refine the ESP while sleeping function in my dream cycle.

 so disappointed to have missed it! :(

 On 2/04/15 7:44 15AM, ruth catlow wrote:
 Yes Netbehaviourists
 That's now!
 well... in 18 minutes from now.

 To Access: Adobe Connect Webconferencing
 https://ntu.adobeconnect.com/symposium2015

 Hope you can join us to review and celebrate with us the
 Netartizen project!

 : )
 R

 On 01/04/15 23:01, Randall Packer wrote:
 There has been a sudden cancellation of the keynote by Lev
 Manovich today,
 Thursday April 2, at the Art of the Networked Practice |
 Online Symposium.
 As a result, we are moving the ³Net Behaviors² discussion 
 two hours
 early. Info below, you can join us and participate in a live
 discussion of
 the NetArtizens Project:

 Thursday, April 2, 2:00 PM ­ 3:30 PM (Singapore Time) (-12
 hours East
 Coast US, -7 hours UK, -6 hours Central Europe, +3 hours Sydney)
 Virtual Roundtable Global Exchange: ³Net Behaviors²

 In the final session, we will host an open dialogue for all
 participants
 and attendees, local and remote. As a synthesis of ideas and
 aspirations
 raised throughout the symposium, as well as the month long
 NetArtizens
 Project http://www.furtherfield.org/netartizens/
 http://www.furtherfield.org/netartizens/, we will examine how
 today¹s Net practitioners, or what we might refer to as
 ³Netartizens,² are
 signaling a changing approach to artistic production,
 research, and
 teaching. In the age of social media, our conversations,
 discourses, and
 artistic work are ³intertwingled² (to use Ted Nelson¹s
 playful term) with
 exponentially exploding repositories of media and
 information: nowadays,
 our everyday communications are embedded with the metadata of
 search
 queries, hyperlinks, hashtags and usernames. To the extent
 that we
 practice, challenge, and assimilate the rapidly evolving
 systems and
 techniques of the network, we will examine and dissect the
 resulting
 impact on our individual and collective ³Net behaviors.²

 Moderator:

 * Randall Packer, Visiting Associate Professor, School of
 Art, Design 
 Media, Nanyang Technological University

 Commentators:

 * Vibeke Sorensen, Chair, School of Art, Design  Media, Nanyang
 Technological University
 * jonCates, Chair and Associate Professor of Film, Video and
 New Media,
 School of the Art Institute of Chicago
 * Ruth Catlow  Marc Garrett, Co-founders  Co-directors,
 Furtherfield,
 London

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Re: [NetBehaviour] The Netartizen project ends now

[helen varley jamieson]

hah, i like the idea of guess-teaching :D

On 2/04/15 5:43 31PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:


 I do want to thank everyone and apologize again - I'm going to view
 the video/exhibition of course. I've been guess-teaching (and still
 am) and it's been unfortunately primary for me. I did participate in
 the discussion here as much as I could, and I learned a lot from it,
 and again, thank you!


 On Thu, 2 Apr 2015, ruth catlow wrote:

 Dear All,

 The Netartizen project ends now

 but the life of this Netartizen continues, inbox fertilized and spirit
 refreshed, inspired and appreciative of the beings and doings of the
 last
 month.

 We can still peruse the online exhibition-
 http://0p3nr3p0.net/show/netartizens

 look back through DIWO antics of kittenz, dreams, blockchains, unwitting
 participation, lizards, anguish and algorithms.

 and mull over the many unresolved questions of our relationship as art
 workers to politics, community and net citizenship more broadly.

 Group HUG
 I also want to say huge thanks to Randall Packer for instigating,
 provoking
 and shepherding this experience with incredible dedication.
 And to express my warm appreciation to all contributors (and lurkers- we
 know you are out there) for your patience, ingenuity, generosity and
 critical energy. /Group HUG

 : )
 Ruth

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Re: [NetBehaviour] network practiced

[helen varley jamieson]

yes, thank you annie! and randall, and ruth  marc :) it's been a lot of
fun so far, with very interesting presentations/discussions (the little
that i've seen - i'm not an early riser  the days are 3am starts for me
... looking forward to the recordings!). for those of us online the
organisation appears to be very smooth (we have no idea what kind of
jugging randall's doing in the Control Room ;) )  the time-keeping is
great!

h : )

On 31/03/15 11:42 18PM, Randall Packer wrote:
 Thank you Annie! Your wonderful spirit (and title of the work) was a
 great inspiration to Helen and all of us. To all the artists on net
 behaviours and beyond who are pushing the boundaries of networked
 forms of creative dialogue, live performance, installation, writing,
 poetics, imagining, glitch, etc, we are clearly at the beginning of a
 medium that is still incredibly young in the history of art.  The idea
 that we can stage and discuss our work in front of a global audience
 still feels like a miracle and so I encourage everyone to participate
 in the Art of the Networked Practice | Online Symposium and be part of
 the ongoing conversation. 

 Best,

 Randall

 *Art of the Networked Practice*

 An International Online Symposium

 March 31 – April 2, 2015

 http://oss.adm.ntu.edu.sg/symposium2015/

 Co-chaired by Randall Packer  Vibeke Sorensen

  

 *Randall Packer*

 Visiting Associate Professor

 Nanyang Technological University

 School of Art, Design  Media

 Singapore

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 this morning I assisted in the opening of the Networked Practice
 symposium (relaxed, no fee, no travels) and 4 excellent interviews by
 Marc and Ruth and a beautifull performance by Helen Varley Jamieson
 and her students here https://ntu.adobeconnect.com/symposium2015
 At the end I longed for more
 Meeting online using a chatwindow while people discuss is very
 different from going to a conference or participating in an email list
 Randall might be right This is the future

 thanks Randall for making this happen
 the symposium had a perfect start

 come along tomorrow
 don't miss it

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Re: [NetBehaviour] art and connectivity

[helen varley jamieson]

thanks for this mab, it looks really interesting. people might also be
interested in the recordings of all of the CyPosium presentations 
discussions: http://www.cyposium.net/

2 good companions to the current event :)

h : )

ps - 2010 is not old ...

On 30/03/15 1:54 28PM, Mab MacMoragh wrote:
 some might be interested in this old art and connectivity panel
 cyberforum held in second life hosted and moderated by the national
 portrait gallery in 2010, canberra, panelists included christiane
 paul, melinda rackham, patrick lichty, audience included me and
 stelarc (apologies for leaving out a lot of important names, i'm sick
 and fumble-fingering this keyboard and fighting autocorrect and snail
 infestations), the video if not the panel was featured on the art:21
 blog by nettrice gaskins, with whom i'm trying to assemble a video on
 her amazing second life installation at ibm on afrofuturism hopefully
 this year now that i've dragged out all my hard drives to find things
 with unhelpful file names

 transcript is verbatim so there are a lot of nonmeanings in the verbiage

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Improvisation

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improvisation is an important part of my work for many reasons, but in
particular when creating live performance via internet technology there
is always the possibility of failure, glitch, lag  other technical
improvisations that can require an improvised response; and secondly
with an interactive audience who are able to participate, comment and
insert themselves into the work it's also very important to be able to
improvise in response to this. improvisation emphasises the liveness of
the work and the conversational nature of cyberformance.  it's fun :)

h : )

On 27/03/15 12:43 35PM, if wrote:
 Yes.. Interesting.. Improvisation, in terms of meanings, has a range of
 time - as in
 an act in a given present for which a person hasn't rehearsed/prepared.
 A sort of an hack with a focus on time rather than object or objective.

 What's the context for this immersion in improvisation? (..or is it an
 improvised immersion..?)

 cheers!

 aharon
 xx

 Improvisation offers a wealth of cultural connections. Part of my own
 practice is rooted in jazz. Jazz is a contested territory, with deep
 roots. I don't find that the same can be said of formal systems, which are
 the other side of my practice. That's probably why I try to muddy them up
 with symbolic meanings—perhaps also to spite my academic education, that
  insisted on the purity of formal systems and saw symbolic meaning as a
 sort of vestigial literary appendage.

 Of course, historically, formal systems such as Western music theory are
 charged with all sorts of cultural freight. Their emptying out of
 nationalist fervor and programmatic detail seems to have been a Modernist
  project. The pure forms were supposed to offer a universality.
 Post-colonial and post-structuralist critiques suggest that notion was
 seriously flawed. We still seem to be recovering from that error.

 -- Paul



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 Hi Pete
 I find myself working on and exploring similar questions? Looking at
 telematics as well in todays presence. Can you contextualise your
 thoughts? Hppy to talk, to explore,
 On another note
 tomorrow I am joining Marlon Barrios who is working at the Moment in
 Poland to explore across platform creation...
 ;-)
 On 26 Mar 2015, at 12:43, Peter Gomes wrote:


 I'm currently immersed in Improvisation across its many forms and

 processes; music, performance, cinema, acting, making, living.
 I'm interested to hear peoples thoughts on potential connections
 between
 improvisation and networks and contemporary ideas in and around
 technology.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] NetArtizens: Do you dream of computers?

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 am very interested in using computer-derived logic as
 choreography
 in
 my works. a few years ago i did a series of live performances where
 dancers used movements based on the logic of HTML tags, and currently i
 am
 working on a new iteration of a live performance series that has
 characters featured such as the Finder or the MouseCursor or
 HelperApplications, each executing their role based somewhat on what its
 function is in the OS.
 you can look here:
 Website Impersonations (HTML movements)
 http://www.ursenal.net/wi_ttmv/
 Far-Flung follows function (OSX characters)
 http://farflungfollowsfunction.ursenal.net
 maybe this answers  your question or probably raises more ;-) best,
 ursula
 during the CyPosium, joseph delappe talked about his experience when
 he
 was performing gandhi in second life intensively every day for i
 forget
 how long, he said he would walk down the street  think that he
 could
 click on people  have information about them display over their heads
 as
 in SL.
 i can't think off the top of my head of an example of dance or
 performance that choreographs UI gestures but i bet there are some out
 there.
 h : )
 On 12/03/15 7:36 11PM, Rob Myers wrote:
 On 12/03/15 05:38 AM, helen varley jamieson wrote:
 :D or little kids trying to swipe the screens on the back of
 digital cameras when viewing photos - i've even seen kids trying to
 swipe the pages of a book, but maybe that's more just lazy
 page-turning than really believing it will swipe ...
 The body language of mobile and tablet use is fascinating, the
 postures and hand gestures. Faces lost in contemplation illuminated by
 not God or the truth but by commercially mediated sociality. Hands
 stroking, pulling, making shadowplay ducks.
 Everyone (if you like ;-) ) try making gesture UI movements with
 your
 hands in the air in front of you and see how they look. Is there any
 contemporary dance using this?
 On 12/03/15 10:56 26AM, Antye Greie-Ripatti wrote:
 me finger-zooming into books lately (eye roll)
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:50 AM, dave miller
 dave.miller...@gmail.com mailto:dave.miller...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Often when I do something really bad, like lock myself out of
 the
 house, my immediate thought is undo and then I realise that
 doesn't apply to real life.
 Apparently obsessive Myst players used to try to click on things
 irl.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO Process

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 participation (though I must admit to
 having passively spectated through that one but I was fairly
 new on the list and still trying to get a feel for the
 conversation). 

 That said, I'd still argue for no rules. Rules may be
 necessary in large funded projects, as funding drives the
 need for results in our productivity-obssessed age, but rules
 tend to bring hierarchical structure with them. That goes
 against the best aspects of participatory work:
 inclusiveness, the freedom to play when and if you want to,
 and the openness and unpredictability of it all. Necessarily
 that means projects may fail to deliver results, spin out of
 control or take unexpected turns, but surely that's part of
 the fun of it? 

 Also I think more than ever it's important to have spaces
 where we feel free to remix, appropriate and play with other
 people's work. When artists are being prosecuted left, right
 and center for things like doing a painting based on someone
 else's photograph, just keeping that space open is a
 political statement. And Netbehaviour has been doing a great
 job of that :-)

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Re: [NetBehaviour] NetArtizens: Do you dream of computers?

[helen varley jamieson]

hi ursula,
thanks for fixing the video, it looks like a great production :) does
the audience have input to the piece or is it a set choreography?

it reminded me of a performance at the 11:11:11 UpStage festival, by
inge hoonte  birgit bachler, where they were exploring the relationship
between computer  user,  had a webcam inside a computer with
characters who woke up (or not) to do the actions such as fetching 
opening files.
http://pzwiki.wdka.nl/mediadesign/User:Inge_Hoonte/Is_This_On%3f

h : )

On 13/03/15 9:33 24PM, Ursula Endlicher wrote:
 hi helen,

 thanks for your reply! yeah i had a feeling that 'html_butoh' might go a
 touch beyond your UI discussion (html_butoh rather scrutinizes the overall
 structure of what builds a UI) but i am very happy that you did look at
 the piece before and like it! very cool.

 in terms of watching the demo video of 'far-flung follows function': 
 http://farflungfollowsfunction.ursenal.net/video.html
 it should work now (assuming you've tried in chrome before and it didn't
 load, this finally made me fix the issue with QT ;-) let me know if you
 still have problems watching it.

 and as much as in 'far-flung follows' function i am playing with the idea
 of how the overall operating system and its UI behaves, there is a scene
 where two mouse cursors are struggling over the priority of the click -
 check out the scene below. it is though a desktop UI movement moment,
 not hand-held ;-)
 http://farflungfollowsfunction.ursenal.net/video-excerptMICE.html

 happy to talk more...
 thanks, rob and helen for bringing up that question! :-)

 --ursula

 hi ursula,
 thanks for sharing your work :) i have looked before at html_butoh
 before, great project. it's a different approach than rob's question about
 contemporary dance using UI gestures - but perhaps more
 interesting in its complexity. i see people using UI gestures as hand
 signals in conversations etc so i'm sure these moves will be or already
 are appearing in contemporary dance
 far-flung follows function looks really interesting too, altho the
 video wouldn't play for me. what plug-in does it need?
 h : )
 On 13/03/15 1:01 48AM, Ursula Endlicher wrote:
 hi dear helen,
 i am very interested in using computer-derived logic as choreography
 in
 my works. a few years ago i did a series of live performances where
 dancers used movements based on the logic of HTML tags, and currently i am
 working on a new iteration of a live performance series that has
 characters featured such as the Finder or the MouseCursor or
 HelperApplications, each executing their role based somewhat on what its
 function is in the OS.
 you can look here:
 Website Impersonations (HTML movements) http://www.ursenal.net/wi_ttmv/
 Far-Flung follows function (OSX characters)
 http://farflungfollowsfunction.ursenal.net
 maybe this answers  your question or probably raises more ;-)
 best,
 ursula
 during the CyPosium, joseph delappe talked about his experience when
 he
 was performing gandhi in second life intensively every day for i
 forget
 how long, he said he would walk down the street  think that he could
 click on people  have information about them display over their heads as
 in SL.
 i can't think off the top of my head of an example of dance or
 performance that choreographs UI gestures but i bet there are some out there.
 h : )
 On 12/03/15 7:36 11PM, Rob Myers wrote:
 On 12/03/15 05:38 AM, helen varley jamieson wrote:
 :D or little kids trying to swipe the screens on the back of
 digital cameras when viewing photos - i've even seen kids trying to
 swipe the pages of a book, but maybe that's more just lazy
 page-turning than really believing it will swipe ...
 The body language of mobile and tablet use is fascinating, the
 postures and hand gestures. Faces lost in contemplation illuminated by
 not God or the truth but by commercially mediated sociality. Hands
 stroking, pulling, making shadowplay ducks.
 Everyone (if you like ;-) ) try making gesture UI movements with your
 hands in the air in front of you and see how they look. Is there any
 contemporary dance using this?
 On 12/03/15 10:56 26AM, Antye Greie-Ripatti wrote:
 me finger-zooming into books lately (eye roll)
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:50 AM, dave miller
 dave.miller...@gmail.com mailto:dave.miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 Often when I do something really bad, like lock myself out of the
 house, my immediate thought is undo and then I realise that
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 Apparently obsessive Myst players used to try to click on things irl.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] NetArtizens: Do you dream of computers?

[helen varley jamieson]

hi ursula,
thanks for sharing your work :) i have looked before at html_butoh
before, great project. it's a different approach than rob's question
about contemporary dance using UI gestures - but perhaps more
interesting in its complexity. i see people using UI gestures as hand
signals in conversations etc so i'm sure these moves will be or already
are appearing in contemporary dance

far-flung follows function looks really interesting too, altho the
video wouldn't play for me. what plug-in does it need?

h : )

On 13/03/15 1:01 48AM, Ursula Endlicher wrote:
 hi dear helen,

 i am very interested in using computer-derived logic as choreography in
 my works. a few years ago i did a series of live performances where
 dancers used movements based on the logic of HTML tags, and currently i am
 working on a new iteration of a live performance series that has
 characters featured such as the Finder or the MouseCursor or
 HelperApplications, each executing their role based somewhat on what its
 function is in the OS.

 you can look here:
 Website Impersonations (HTML movements) http://www.ursenal.net/wi_ttmv/
 Far-Flung follows function (OSX characters)
 http://farflungfollowsfunction.ursenal.net

 maybe this answers  your question or probably raises more ;-)
 best,
 ursula

 during the CyPosium, joseph delappe talked about his experience when he
 was performing gandhi in second life intensively every day for i forget
 how long, he said he would walk down the street  think that he could
 click on people  have information about them display over their heads
 as in SL.

 i can't think off the top of my head of an example of dance or
 performance that choreographs UI gestures but i bet there are some out
 there.

 h : )

 On 12/03/15 7:36 11PM, Rob Myers wrote:
 On 12/03/15 05:38 AM, helen varley jamieson wrote:
 :D or little kids trying to swipe the screens on the back of
 digital cameras when viewing photos - i've even seen kids trying to
 swipe the pages of a book, but maybe that's more just lazy
 page-turning than really believing it will swipe ...
 The body language of mobile and tablet use is fascinating, the
 postures and hand gestures. Faces lost in contemplation illuminated by
 not God or the truth but by commercially mediated sociality. Hands
 stroking, pulling, making shadowplay ducks.

 Everyone (if you like ;-) ) try making gesture UI movements with your
 hands in the air in front of you and see how they look. Is there any
 contemporary dance using this?

 On 12/03/15 10:56 26AM, Antye Greie-Ripatti wrote:
 me finger-zooming into books lately (eye roll)

 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:50 AM, dave miller
 dave.miller...@gmail.com mailto:dave.miller...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Often when I do something really bad, like lock myself out of
 the house, my immediate thought is undo and then I realise
 that doesn't apply to real life.
 Apparently obsessive Myst players used to try to click on things irl.

 - Rob.

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Re: [NetBehaviour] NetArtizens: Do you dream of computers?

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i don't think i dream about computers at all; my dreams tend to be about
people  places,  my anxiety dreams are nearly always associated with
travel. one that i used to have for a long time was that i had to catch
a train, but i couldn't fit all of my stuff into my suitcase/backpack. i
would be frantically trying to cram everything into a space that was
physically too small for it all, as the clock ticked mercilessly on, but
i would keep trying until it was actually past the time that the train
would leave (even if i also needed time to get to the station). one of
those inevitable losing battle situations like the sorcerer's apprentice
in fantasia, but without any brooms coming to help. happily i haven't
had this dream for a while :)

but it is interesting that i don't dream about computers, given that i
generally spend most of my working day in front of one  most of my
communication with the outside world is through the computer. i always
shut down completely  switch off the power when i finish for the day,
so maybe that achieves a mental switching-off as well.

h : )

On 11/03/15 11:29 29PM, Mab MacMoragh wrote:
 edward i enjoyed reading about your computer dream and can totally
 relate to the anxiety aspect

 i have a recurring anxiety dream about walking to a distant place
 (usually it's to the small college town where i used to work) and
 never getting there despite hitchhiking and running and etc

 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Edward edw...@edwardpicot.com
 mailto:edw...@edwardpicot.com wrote:

 I have a recurring anxiety dream about computers - specifically,
 about the clinical system I use every day when I'm working at the
 doctor's surgery where I earn my living. In the dream, I'm trying
 to do something simple like make an appointment for someone, but
 instead of the appointments screen or any of the familiar parts of
 the clinical system, I'm presented with lots of peculiar,
 highly-coloured and rather surreal graphics, like landscapes out
 of Super Mario brothers or some other digital game. These are
 meant to be either alternative layouts for the clinical system, or
 'splash screens' you see when you first log on, before you get to
 the system proper. I keep trying to get past them to a screen
 which has actually got some useful functionality, but each screen
 leads to another one which is yet more bizarre and distracting -
 and I'm not just looking at these screens on a computer terminal,
 I'm kind of getting lost inside them, trying to play my way
 through them like a character in a digital game - while in the
 meantime, patients are queueing up at the surgery front desk,
 getting more and more impatient because I can't book them in, make
 them appointments, print prescriptions for them or do anything
 else to help them.

 It's a classic anxiety dream, of course. When I was at school I
 used to dream of getting on the wrong bus, getting off at the
 wrong stop, trying to walk it but taking all the wrong turnings,
 catching another bus which took me in the wrong direction, getting
 further and further away from where I was supposed to be,
 and more and more conscious of the fact that I was already late
 and missing lessons. Nowadays my dreams use computers and digital
 technology instead of bus-rides and twisty roads to flesh out my
 anxiety.

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Re: [NetBehaviour] calling cards at the netartizens ball

[helen varley jamieson]

nice :)

On 12/03/15 12:49 13AM, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
 Using David Gasi's splendid reductions of my netartizens portraits
 and with a generative sound piece on the side.
 The sound takes a little while to get going properly ( and you might
 have to ensure your browser both has and allows the shockwave plug-in)
 The music uses a  database of loops culled from a wax cylinder
 recording from 1909 of Ole Bull's Solitude of the Shepherdess
 performed by the American String Quartet

 http://www.michaelszpakowski.org/ccatnb/

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Re: [NetBehaviour] NetArtizens: Do you dream of computers?

[helen varley jamieson]

during the CyPosium, joseph delappe talked about his experience when he
was performing gandhi in second life intensively every day for i forget
how long, he said he would walk down the street  think that he could
click on people  have information about them display over their heads
as in SL.

i can't think off the top of my head of an example of dance or
performance that choreographs UI gestures but i bet there are some out
there.

h : )

On 12/03/15 7:36 11PM, Rob Myers wrote:
 On 12/03/15 05:38 AM, helen varley jamieson wrote:
  :D or little kids trying to swipe the screens on the back of
  digital cameras when viewing photos - i've even seen kids trying to
  swipe the pages of a book, but maybe that's more just lazy
  page-turning than really believing it will swipe ...

 The body language of mobile and tablet use is fascinating, the
 postures and hand gestures. Faces lost in contemplation illuminated by
 not God or the truth but by commercially mediated sociality. Hands
 stroking, pulling, making shadowplay ducks.

 Everyone (if you like ;-) ) try making gesture UI movements with your
 hands in the air in front of you and see how they look. Is there any
 contemporary dance using this?

  On 12/03/15 10:56 26AM, Antye Greie-Ripatti wrote:
  me finger-zooming into books lately (eye roll)
 
  On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:50 AM, dave miller
  dave.miller...@gmail.com mailto:dave.miller...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Often when I do something really bad, like lock myself out of
  the house, my immediate thought is undo and then I realise
  that doesn't apply to real life.

 Apparently obsessive Myst players used to try to click on things irl.

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[NetBehaviour] Fwd: [Hack The Earth 2015]

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On 2015-03-11 06:19, calafou wrote:
 [versión en castellano abajo]
 
 [scroll down for english version]
 
 *
 
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 *[web: https://calafou.org/ca/content/HTE-2015-cat]*
 *
 
 
   HackTheEarth: Jornades per l'Autosuficiència a Calafou - 2/5
   d'abril de 2015_*
   *_
 
 
 _*CRIDA A LA PARTICIPACIÓ*_
 
 *CONVOCATÒRIA INSCRIPCIONS:
 *
 
 Seguim rebent propostes de xerrades, tallers i espai per debatre, per
 teixir una xarxa de coneixements per l'autogestió tecnològica,
 l'experimentació ecoindustrial, l'energia DIY, la reflexió i l'anàlisis
 de les seves dimensions tecnopolítiques en un cap de setmana intens,
 immens, obert i fluït. Les condicions del nostre entorn ens motiven, en
 aquesta edició de HackTheEarth, a desenvolupar els eixos d'Aigua i 
 Terra.
 
 A més de teixir una xarxa de coneixements lliures, entenem aquests dies
 de treball cooperatiu com una bona ocasió per crear infraestructura i
 recursos necessaris pel projecte de Calafou. I ens agradaria que
 formessis part d'aquesta construcció col·lectiva!
 
 Si vols assistir i participar de les activitats, has d'omplir el
 formulari, abans del 31 de març. Formulari d'assistència:
 https://calafou.org/ca/content/inscripci%C3%B3-hack-earth-15-participants
 
 
 *TALLERS CONFIRMATS:
 *
 Fins el moment, tenim confirmats aquests tallers:
 
 *Eix Aigua*
 1. Calentador solar d'aigua
 2. Calentador d'aigua per combustió d'oli vegetal usat
 3. Trampa de greixos
 4. Fitodepuració guerrillera
 5. Filtració d'aigua de pluja per potabilització
 6. Open Droplet - Sensor per a la medició del consum domèstic de
 l'aigua, open source i open hardware
 7. Plataforma mòbil d'anàlisis de la qualitat de l'aigua
 
 *Eix Terra*
 1. Construcció d'un bany sec
 2. Construcció d'una vermicompostera
 3. Manteniment de maquinària agrícola
 4. Disseny permacultural en l'hort social comunitari municipal
 5. Reconeixement de l'entorn
 
 En els propers dies esperem la confirmació de nous tallers. Us
 mantindrem informats!
 
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 debatir, para tejer una red de conocimientos para la autogestión
 tecnológica, la experimentación ecoindustrial, la energia DIY, la
 reflexión y el análisis de sus dimensiones tecnopolíticas en un fin de
 semana intenso, inmenso, abierto y fluido. Las condiciones de nuestro
 entorno nos motivan, en esta edición de HackTheEarth, a desarrollar los
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 Además de tejer una red de conocimientos libres, entendemos estos días
 de trabajo cooperativo como una buena ocasión para crear 
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 formaras parte de esta construcción colectiva!
 
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 *TALLERES CONFIRMADOS:
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 Hasta el momento, tenemos confirmados estos talleres:
 
 *Eje Agua:*
 1. Calentador solar de agua
 2. Calentador de agua por combustión de aceite vegetal usado
 3. Trampa de grasas
 4. Fitodepuración guerrillera
 5. Filtración de agua de lluvia para potabilización
 6. Open Droplet - Sensor para la medición del consumo doméstico del
 agua, open source y open hardware
 7. Plataforma móvil de análisis de la calidad del agua
 
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 1. Construcción de un baño seco
 2. Construcción de una vermicompostera
 3. Mantenimiento de maquinaria agrícola
 4. Diseño permacultural en el huerto social comunitario municipal
 5. 

Re: [NetBehaviour] neat NZ rites : helen varley jamieson / MANY

[helen varley jamieson]

i'd say everyone is a shade of grey, with slight colour tones ... :)

On 9/03/15 2:47 22AM, Kath O'Donnell wrote:
 interesting. almost all the women are shades of grey
 I like the palette created


 On 9 March 2015 at 11:25, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com
 mailto:sondh...@panix.com wrote:



 There's something wonderfully calming about this, my image
 disappearing, averaged out in an entropic universe, integral
 calculus at work...

 - Alan



 On Sun, 8 Mar 2015, That Is Repulsive wrote:

 Series so far
 https://www.behance.net/Netartizens

 Portraits based on the calculated average colour derived from
 original
 artworks by michael szpakowski
 Generated using custom Processing script 
 2448x2448px 
 PNG File format

 #88837f_helen_varley_jamieson.png
 
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24308701/88837f_helen_varley_jamiesonpng

 #61707a_karl_heinz_jeron.png
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24308647/61707a_karl_heinz_jeronpng

 #6f616d_helen_pritchard.png
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24308577/6f616d_helen_pritchardpng

 #2d2d2e_rob_myers.png
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24308497/2d2d2e_rob_myerspng

 #8c8e92_kath_o'donnell.png
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24308453/8c8e92_kath_odonnellpng

 #adaaad_simon_mclennan.png
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24308389/adaaad_simon_mclennanpng

 #89868d_isabel_brison.png
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24308275/89868d_isabel_brisonpng

 #7f7b81_mez.png
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24308159/7f7b81_mezpng

 #6c706f_alan_sondheim.png
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24308089/6c706f_alan_sondheimpng

 #747892_patrick_lichty.png
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24308005/747892_patrick_lichtypng

 #9c8189_dr_hairy.png
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24307781/9c8189_dr_hairypng

 #837f84_ruth_catlow.png
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24307661/837f84_ruth_catlowpng

 #7e797e_randall_packer.png
 https://www.behance.net/gallery/24307275/7e797e_randall_packerpng




 David





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 mich...@dvblog.org mailto:mich...@dvblog.org
   wrote:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/16755763411/

 oil on canvas //12X9 //painted from google search // posted
 to Flickr

 series so far:


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/sets/72157651122579216
  
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Re: [NetBehaviour] A Behavior of Catalogs

[helen varley jamieson]

yes, really great! thanks :)

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Re: [NetBehaviour] my Netartizen contribution

[helen varley jamieson]

yes, i agree randall :)

On 5/03/15 1:20 33PM, Randall Packer wrote:
  i mean co-authoring in a way that they can insert their own
 creativity  alter/influence the work.”

 @Helen: I am still interested in the idea that social media (and that
 includes this list) is in fact an intermedial exchange  process of
 co-authorship, that we are in fact, together,
 authoring/constructing/generating a collective body of knowledge via
 this exchange. If you were to go back and read through the archives of
 NetBehaviour I am certain there is a “cultural record”  (to use the
 words of Vannevar Bush) with a narrative flow that captures
 a “story” of the time and place and people involved. I consider social
 media (generally and perhaps idealistically speaking) to be
 expressive, performative (not proconsumative), and participatory in
 equal measure, narrative in a non-hierarchical structure, a theater of
 words and ideas. 


 that's quite nice :)

 On 4/03/15 5:09 16PM, Patrick Lichty wrote:

 How about “Performience”?

  

 *From:*netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org
 [mailto:netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org] *On Behalf Of *helen
 varley jamieson
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:45 AM
 *To:* netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
 *Subject:* Re: [NetBehaviour] my Netartizen contribution

  

 prosumer is not a word for actor+audience, it's a word for
 producer+consumer, which is about product and consumption, rather
 than relationship  experience.

 i have long hunted for a good word for this - for audiences that are
 participating in a really creative way in a work -  i don't just
 mean the interactivity of pressing a button or something like that.
 i mean co-authoring in a way that they can insert their own
 creativity  alter/influence the work. i have written about the
 intermedial audience, as a way to understand the role of the
 audience in cyberformance  potentially other digital art contexts.

 The concept of intermediality offers a way to approach an audience
 that is as unfinished and (r)evolutionary as the work it is engaging
 with. It upgrades the passive spectator to an integral position
 within cyberformance, without relinquishing the fundamental gap
 between performer and spectator. At the same time, intermediality
 acknowledges the mental multitasking that cyberformance demands of
 its audience and the paradigm shift that is forced onto those more
 accustomed to the traditional codes of audience behaviour.

 (this was written 8 years ago  perhaps needs updating now given then
 increased possibilities for audience participation/contribution.)

 i don't think the intermedial audience are players of equal
 measure,  i'm not sure if this really exists (when an artist or
 group has conceived the work or created the context for it except
 maybe in gaming?).

 h : )

 On 4/03/15 5:02 28AM, Karl Heinz Jeron wrote:

 Hello,

 there is a word for actor and audience in the social media realm:
 prosumer!

 And hey if at all this is postdramatic theatre. 

 Followers equals audience? I don't think so.

  

 Cheers

 KH

  

 2015-03-04 0:05 GMT+01:00 isabel brison ijayes...@gmail.com
 mailto:ijayes...@gmail.com:

 Hello,

  

 I can't really agree:

  

  

 When we sit in the theater, we are essentially a receiver of
 information that is passed from the stage to the audience.
 But in the world of social media, we are all actors on the
 stage: the fourth wall is erased, the proscenium dissolves,
 there are no lights to turn down, the suspension of disbelief
 is revised, as information (or lines) are passed not just
 from the one to many, but from everyone to everyone. 

  

 Most of us are audience most of the time, as actors need audience
 to be actors. And what's the difference between a screen and a
 stage? except that on a screen it is not always considered bad
 manners to join in the act. 

 And some of us deliberately choose to be audience, others act
 occasionally, some act as a hobby and others professionally (
 though I'm not sure that acting is a good analogy at all for
 social interaction - there should be a word for actor and
 audience all in one, and possibly for combinations of different
 amounts of one and the other). 

  

  

  how do we insert ourselves into this story, not as
 receivers, but as players of equal measure, 

  

  Tweet! Retweet! Respond! - Seriously, that account only has 14
 followers. How can it act at all in the absence of audience? Is
 it a bad actor? If we're all actors then how many of us are bad
 actors and should consider a change of carreer?

  

 Oh and a funny thing: I followed the link above and it gave me an
 error. It's really @The_People_Came
 https://twitter.com/The_People_Came. Was that on purpose I wonder?

  

 Cheers

Re: [NetBehaviour] the ever-present-present

[helen varley jamieson]

 items such as home photos which are generally no
 longer printed, and home videos. I also wonder what
 future archeologists will think of our surviving
 buried rubbish. so whilst I love the net, I think it's
 important to go back to hand made physical art and
 craft too. if there is some pulse in the future which
 wipes all the technology we'll be left with a gap from
 our digital/online years. let's hope the libraries
 survive. I've heard of projects such as printed copies
 of Wikipedia, but I wonder how many they print and how
 distributed these are. (plus how often as WP changes
 so quickly). in smaller communities such as music
 communities (for one example), there's less event
 flyers printed out - they are all online or (worse)
 only on Facebook as event listings, which means they
 are lost over very short times. I suppose it's really
 up to how much people care about these things, and
 whether they work towards saving some of it or
 preparing for the future.

 looking forward to this month. checking out the
 artworks now - they're looking great
 thanks


 On 3 March 2015 at 06:17, Randall Packer
 rpac...@zakros.com mailto:rpac...@zakros.com wrote:

 [snip]

 Here are some questions to consider:

 Are we in fact producing a cultural history that
 emanates from the
 language of computers? Are the cultural references
 of today increasingly
 coded in numerical values that will need to be
 compiled and encoded in the
 far future by curious historians of the 21st
 century? What in fact are we
 leaving behind for future generations on our hard
 drives and cloud
 repositories? And how will the technological
 culture of today be viewed
 when these values are no longer decipherable. Are
 we in fact erasing our
 historical past as we create it for the digital
 future?

 Randall

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Re: [NetBehaviour] my Netartizen contribution

[helen varley jamieson]

prosumer is not a word for actor+audience, it's a word for
producer+consumer, which is about product and consumption, rather than
relationship  experience.

i have long hunted for a good word for this - for audiences that are
participating in a really creative way in a work -  i don't just mean
the interactivity of pressing a button or something like that. i mean
co-authoring in a way that they can insert their own creativity 
alter/influence the work. i have written about the intermedial
audience, as a way to understand the role of the audience in
cyberformance  potentially other digital art contexts.
 The concept of intermediality offers a way to approach an audience
 that is as unfinished and (r)evolutionary as the work it is engaging
 with. It upgrades the passive spectator to an integral position within
 cyberformance, without relinquishing the fundamental gap between
 performer and spectator. At the same time, intermediality acknowledges
 the mental multitasking that cyberformance demands of its audience and
 the paradigm shift that is forced onto those more accustomed to the
 traditional codes of audience behaviour.
(this was written 8 years ago  perhaps needs updating now given then
increased possibilities for audience participation/contribution.)

i don't think the intermedial audience are players of equal measure, 
i'm not sure if this really exists (when an artist or group has
conceived the work or created the context for it except maybe in gaming?).

h : )

On 4/03/15 5:02 28AM, Karl Heinz Jeron wrote:
 Hello,
 there is a word for actor and audience in the social media realm:
 prosumer!
 And hey if at all this is postdramatic theatre. 
 Followers equals audience? I don't think so.

 Cheers
 KH

 2015-03-04 0:05 GMT+01:00 isabel brison ijayes...@gmail.com
 mailto:ijayes...@gmail.com:

 Hello,
  
 I can't really agree:


 When we sit in the theater, we are essentially a receiver of
 information that is passed from the stage to the audience. But
 in the world of social media, we are all actors on the stage:
 the fourth wall is erased, the proscenium dissolves, there are
 no lights to turn down, the suspension of disbelief is
 revised, as information (or lines) are passed not just from
 the one to many, but from everyone to everyone. 


 Most of us are audience most of the time, as actors need audience
 to be actors. And what's the difference between a screen and a
 stage? except that on a screen it is not always considered bad
 manners to join in the act. 
 And some of us deliberately choose to be audience, others act
 occasionally, some act as a hobby and others professionally (
 though I'm not sure that acting is a good analogy at all for
 social interaction - there should be a word for actor and audience
 all in one, and possibly for combinations of different amounts of
 one and the other). 
  
  

  how do we insert ourselves into this story, not as receivers,
 but as players of equal measure, 


  Tweet! Retweet! Respond! - Seriously, that account only has 14
 followers. How can it act at all in the absence of audience? Is it
 a bad actor? If we're all actors then how many of us are bad
 actors and should consider a change of carreer?

 Oh and a funny thing: I followed the link above and it gave me an
 error. It's really @The_People_Came
 https://twitter.com/The_People_Came. Was that on purpose I wonder?

 Cheers

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Re: [NetBehaviour] my Netartizen contribution

[helen varley jamieson]

that's quite nice :)

On 4/03/15 5:09 16PM, Patrick Lichty wrote:

 How about “Performience”?

  

 *From:*netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org
 [mailto:netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org] *On Behalf Of *helen
 varley jamieson
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:45 AM
 *To:* netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
 *Subject:* Re: [NetBehaviour] my Netartizen contribution

  

 prosumer is not a word for actor+audience, it's a word for
 producer+consumer, which is about product and consumption, rather than
 relationship  experience.

 i have long hunted for a good word for this - for audiences that are
 participating in a really creative way in a work -  i don't just mean
 the interactivity of pressing a button or something like that. i
 mean co-authoring in a way that they can insert their own creativity 
 alter/influence the work. i have written about the intermedial
 audience, as a way to understand the role of the audience in
 cyberformance  potentially other digital art contexts.

 The concept of intermediality offers a way to approach an audience
 that is as unfinished and (r)evolutionary as the work it is engaging
 with. It upgrades the passive spectator to an integral position within
 cyberformance, without relinquishing the fundamental gap between
 performer and spectator. At the same time, intermediality acknowledges
 the mental multitasking that cyberformance demands of its audience and
 the paradigm shift that is forced onto those more accustomed to the
 traditional codes of audience behaviour.

 (this was written 8 years ago  perhaps needs updating now given then
 increased possibilities for audience participation/contribution.)

 i don't think the intermedial audience are players of equal measure,
  i'm not sure if this really exists (when an artist or group has
 conceived the work or created the context for it except maybe in gaming?).

 h : )

 On 4/03/15 5:02 28AM, Karl Heinz Jeron wrote:

 Hello,

 there is a word for actor and audience in the social media realm:
 prosumer!

 And hey if at all this is postdramatic theatre. 

 Followers equals audience? I don't think so.

  

 Cheers

 KH

  

 2015-03-04 0:05 GMT+01:00 isabel brison ijayes...@gmail.com
 mailto:ijayes...@gmail.com:

 Hello,

  

 I can't really agree:

  

  

 When we sit in the theater, we are essentially a receiver of
 information that is passed from the stage to the audience. But
 in the world of social media, we are all actors on the stage:
 the fourth wall is erased, the proscenium dissolves, there are
 no lights to turn down, the suspension of disbelief is
 revised, as information (or lines) are passed not just from
 the one to many, but from everyone to everyone. 

  

 Most of us are audience most of the time, as actors need audience
 to be actors. And what's the difference between a screen and a
 stage? except that on a screen it is not always considered bad
 manners to join in the act. 

 And some of us deliberately choose to be audience, others act
 occasionally, some act as a hobby and others professionally (
 though I'm not sure that acting is a good analogy at all for
 social interaction - there should be a word for actor and audience
 all in one, and possibly for combinations of different amounts of
 one and the other). 

  

  

  how do we insert ourselves into this story, not as receivers,
 but as players of equal measure, 

  

  Tweet! Retweet! Respond! - Seriously, that account only has 14
 followers. How can it act at all in the absence of audience? Is it
 a bad actor? If we're all actors then how many of us are bad
 actors and should consider a change of carreer?

  

 Oh and a funny thing: I followed the link above and it gave me an
 error. It's really @The_People_Came
 https://twitter.com/The_People_Came. Was that on purpose I wonder?

  

 Cheers

  

 Isabel - semi-professional lurker

  


  

 -- 

 http://isabelbrison.com

  

 http://tellthemachines.com

  


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