RE: Windows 8 Makes Me Consider a Mac

2012-11-29 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
 
 One of my big peeves is making the user interface an intrinsic part of
 the operating system.  There's no need for it.  You should be able to
 run a UI on whatever OS you want, whether it's Windows 7, 8 or XP, or
 for that matter Linux or OSX.
 

You're talking about 2 different things there. 

One is whether or not the UI is an instrinsic part of the OS, and in each of
the example OSes it is not - they are all fat kernel OSs, and don't actually
need the standard UI in order to operate the computer. Server versions of
operating systems run without a UI in unattended data centres and expect you
to remote in if you want to control them

Two is whether or not a UI can run on different OSes. In principle, any UI
that's built on X can do that, and any UI that takes a similar approach of
having an abstraction layer (like X) between the OS and the UI can do the
same thing, but people have to provide the abstraction layers. In the case
of Windows I don't think there are any, so you can't just take the Windows
UI and stick it on top of Plan 9, for example, but I bet it could be done.

Windows, at least the pro versions, comes with a POSIX subsystem so you can
run native UNIX on a Windows kernel, without the Windows susbsystem (this is
probably not very clear, but it's only an email). This means that you can
run X, which in turn means you can run any of the UIs that run on X.

B


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Re: Windows 8 Makes Me Consider a Mac

2012-11-29 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Nov 28, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not so sure about Windows 8, but I've got to give Apple credit for
 making the touch-screen popular.  Hewlett-Packard had a whole bunch of
 touch screen laptops, but couldn't get any customer sell-thru. (2-4
 years ago)  

The touch-screen iPhone was introduced more than five years ago.

 Apple did this new technology and now everyone is trying
 to capitalize on it.  Sometimes it doesn't pay to be on the leading
 edge - poor H-P.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:22 PM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Hi Rob - where did you find that?  I've an HTC One X and haven't seen that 
 anywhere (and it won't
 read QR codes either!)
 
 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia
 
 
 
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 Subject: Re: Windows 8 Makes Me Consider a Mac
 
 On 29 November 2012 02:03, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 At 64, I guess I've reached olde fartedom. But I need a smartphone for my 
 business, and bought my
 first, a Droid 2, a couple of years ago. I opted for the android phone in 
 part because, at the time,
 Verizon didn't support iPhones, and because the Droid 2 had a slide out mini 
 keyboard. At the store
 I had tried typing on the screen of another android phone without keyboard 
 and found it nearly
 impossible. At first I used the slide out keyboard on the D2, but it was 
 cumbersome and slow. I
 eventually learned to manage fairly well typing on the screen but frequently 
 had to backtrack to
 correct mistakes. A few weeks ago I became eligible for a phone upgrade, so 
 I stopped in at the
 Verizon store and tried several phones. I found that the iPhone 5 was much 
 easier to type on than
 any of the android phones. Don't know why, but it's easier to hit the right 
 letter on the touch
 screen. Now, I can buzz along rather well, with a hunt and peck method and 
 have found that I can
 even manage the two thumb technique. I will probably continue to practice 
 that. Sending e-mail from
 the phone is important to my journalism work, so it's worth the effort. Old 
 fartedom has at least
 been delayed.
 
 MY HTC Android phone has a quick calibration routine which once undertaken 
 reduces erroneous
 keystrokes markedly.
 
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Re: $80 instant savings on Bower 14mm f2.8 at BH

2012-11-29 Thread P. J. Alling
Mustache distortion is supposed to be one of the hardest defects to 
correct, which would keep me from considering it.  I had the late 
lamented free version of PTLens, I hope they've improved the user 
interface now that they're selling it.


On 11/28/2012 5:59 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Of more interest to me than the fisheye is the 14mm f2.8 which gets
very respectable reviews. It is rectilinear and manual focus. Perhaps
most significantly, it covers full frame (where the Pentax 14mm does
not) making it a real treat on film cameras. Reviews say that it is
corner to corner sharp on an APS-C camera from about f5.6

Cons are:
no filter threads and hood is not removable.
some mustache distortion which is said to be easily correctible with
PTLens ($25) http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/
apparently some unevenness in quality of the lenses (at least early
on?) Test and return for another if you don't get a good one.
This last point makes this one lens that I would not buy used, at
without being able to try it first.

With the instant savings, BH has it for just $299 in Pentax mount.
They beat everyone else by that $80 instant savings, at least right
now. If I had the moola, I would be tempted to jump at one.




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Re: Just Back from Miami--Little Havana

2012-11-29 Thread P. J. Alling

On 10/29/2012 4:03 AM, Derby Chang wrote:

So gorgeous, the low light colours and the up-closedness. Really like:

http://www.caguila.com/littlehavana/content/IMGP4573_large.html 
(fantastic series of faces)


http://www.caguila.com/littlehavana/content/IMGP4645_large.html (did 
you ask where she got her jacket?)

Somewhere there's a dalmatian wondering what happened to it's skin.


http://www.caguila.com/littlehavana/content/IMGP4593_large.html 
(socialised cycling, it seems to work)




On 29/10/2012 5:13 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

I just got back from Miami about 4 hours ago.  The trip was work 
related, but I did sneak off to Little Havana on Friday night. It was 
fun to do some night shooting.  ISOs very high in many of these 
shots--1600 - 5000 ISO.  Lightroom handled the noise reduction well I 
thought.  Sorry I haven't been around much--work is insane!


http://www.caguila.com/littlehavana

Cheers, Christine/Chicago








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Request to use my photos - what are the smart questions to ask?

2012-11-29 Thread Charles Robinson
I've been approached by a Danish (?) textbook company to use some of my images 
for both print and ebook.

They've asked nicely if they …can use some of your images.  For non-profits, 
illustrative use, and other things I've been known to say sure, just go ahead.

Since this is a commercial venture, however, I'm inclined to say yes, but… 
and ask to be compensated.

It's been awhile since I've sold any images - what are the few concise smart 
questions to ask them in terms of how the images will be used?  


 -Charles

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PESO: No SUVs Please

2012-11-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16630745

Comments are always appreciated.

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Re: PESO - Which is smarter of safer ?

2012-11-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
A humorous image, well captured and rendered.  I like it, Joe.
Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:22 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote:
 Another snapshot with a Nikon Coolpic S8100, Joe
 P.S. Neither is mine


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Re: PESO 2012 - 134 - GDG

2012-11-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like the reader's posture very much, and the dog adds a lot.  I am
not sure that the car on the left isn't a bit too dominant in the
image;  I think it takes attention away from the reader, whom I assume
to be the focus of the image.
Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 Another film image for your enjoyment ...
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8229153476/lightbox

 My photography is all over the map right now as I work out some ideas in my 
 head. The problem is how little time I have to concentrate on it just at the 
 moment.

 Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated.

 Godfrey
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Re: PESO - The Genuine Article

2012-11-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The genuine article indeed.  No place has better beer than Prague.

Nice image;  I like the way you made the beer dominant and just
suggested the other items on your table.

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 In a Prague cafe:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16636672

 (Mediocre food, but very good beer)

 Comments appreciated!

 Rick

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Re: Request to use my photos - what are the smart questions to ask?

2012-11-29 Thread Christine Nielsen
Charles,

I'm sure others on the list could offer more comprehensive advice, but
I have found this site - The American Society of Media Photographers -
very helpful:

http://asmp.org/tutorials/how-write-license.html#.ULdrmYWHptQ

I think whether or not or how much you decide to charge for the use,
it's important to specify the terms of the use of the image... the
asmp site is good at walking you through the details of what use might
look like, and how to specify in a license.

Best of luck,
-c

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 I've been approached by a Danish (?) textbook company to use some of my 
 images for both print and ebook.

 They've asked nicely if they …can use some of your images.  For 
 non-profits, illustrative use, and other things I've been known to say sure, 
 just go ahead.

 Since this is a commercial venture, however, I'm inclined to say yes, but… 
 and ask to be compensated.

 It's been awhile since I've sold any images - what are the few concise smart 
 questions to ask them in terms of how the images will be used?


  -Charles

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Re: Pesos: Another Day at Graylodge

2012-11-29 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Ken!
 
Jack

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Subject: Re: Pesos: Another Day at Graylodge

Nice captures all!

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Pesos: Another Day at Graylodge


 Jack,
 Those are WOW photos,
 especially the first!
 Only thing comparable around here
 is up in Wisconsin - Horicon Marsh and
 the Canada Geese on the flyway.
 Are your birds going somewhere?
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Foggy in spots this AM, but went about 25 miles from home to Gray Lodge 
 State Wildlife Area.
 Fog was very spotty and essentially cleared early in my shooting area.
 
 The number of Snow geese..etc..etc...was something to behold and listen to. 
 As usual, I was hoping for eagles or at least a good chance at a hawk, 
 but..well..maybe next time.
 
 CC most welcome
 
 Jack
 
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=658
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=659
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=660
 
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Re: PESO: No SUVs Please

2012-11-29 Thread Jack Davis
Now there's a vague sign.
Excludes Hummers?

Jack

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Subject: PESO: No SUVs Please

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16630745

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Re: $80 instant savings on Bower 14mm f2.8 at BH

2012-11-29 Thread Darren Addy
Apparently it compares very favorably to Nikon zooms at the same focal
length (or close to the same focal length).
http://theuntamedlandscape.blogspot.com/2012/02/samyang-14mm-f28-lens-review-bower.html

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Re: $80 instant savings on Bower 14mm f2.8 at BH

2012-11-29 Thread David Savage
I have a mate with the Samyang badged version that he uses with his 5D
MkII. For the price is pretty impressive.

I'm considering getting one for when I'm out shooting with 2 cameras 
my Nikkor 14-24mm f2.8 is otherwise in use  I need more angle of view
(my next widet lens is 20mm).

DS

On 29 November 2012 22:50, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Apparently it compares very favorably to Nikon zooms at the same focal
 length (or close to the same focal length).
 http://theuntamedlandscape.blogspot.com/2012/02/samyang-14mm-f28-lens-review-bower.html

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Re: PESO: No SUVs Please

2012-11-29 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm just wondering if they include full life cycle energy costs and 
emissions or just tailpipe.  It brings up the old question which is more 
ecology friendly a traditional razor or an electric to which the answer 
is it depends.


On 11/29/2012 9:16 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Now there's a vague sign.
Excludes Hummers?

Jack

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Subject: PESO: No SUVs Please

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16630745

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Re: PESO: No SUVs Please

2012-11-29 Thread Jack Davis
You just know that some day you'll display an array of operational efficiency 
sticker on a supplemental plate
 
Jack.


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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: No SUVs Please

I'm just wondering if they include full life cycle energy costs and 
emissions or just tailpipe.  It brings up the old question which is more 
ecology friendly a traditional razor or an electric to which the answer 
is it depends.

On 11/29/2012 9:16 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 Now there's a vague sign.
 Excludes Hummers?

 Jack

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 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:53 AM
 Subject: PESO: No SUVs Please

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16630745

 Comments are always appreciated.

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A modest proposal for Ricoh

2012-11-29 Thread P. J. Alling
So I've had way too much time on my hands, and I've been thinking about 
the implications of the K-01 being a one off product.


 It seems that Ricoh could redeem itself by releasing a K mount module 
for the GRX.  Yes I know it's been proposed in the past, but now with 
Pentax and Ricoh having combined photographic imaging operations it 
actually makes sense.  It would also overcome the biggest beef that 
Pentax users had with the K-01, a lack of viewfinder.


Heck the current price for a GRX base and a K module would be about the 
same as the original price for a K-01 assuming that the K module didn't 
cost any more than the Leica M module.


It would make a mirrorless body with an additional EVF a viable backup 
for K-5 users


Finally Pentax could offer the GRX and the different modules in various 
colors, why the possibilities of bad taste in color combinations alone 
are endless!


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Re: Windows 8 Makes Me Consider a Mac

2012-11-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
And between the iphone and the ipad touch, they have built up quite a following.
Really, they defined the market and function of touch screens.
H-P was just too early to know what tablet computers should be.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Nov 28, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not so sure about Windows 8, but I've got to give Apple credit for
 making the touch-screen popular.  Hewlett-Packard had a whole bunch of
 touch screen laptops, but couldn't get any customer sell-thru. (2-4
 years ago)

 The touch-screen iPhone was introduced more than five years ago.

 Apple did this new technology and now everyone is trying
 to capitalize on it.  Sometimes it doesn't pay to be on the leading
 edge - poor H-P.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:22 PM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Hi Rob - where did you find that?  I've an HTC One X and haven't seen that 
 anywhere (and it won't
 read QR codes either!)

 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia



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 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert
 Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012 1:01 PM
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 Subject: Re: Windows 8 Makes Me Consider a Mac

 On 29 November 2012 02:03, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 At 64, I guess I've reached olde fartedom. But I need a smartphone for my 
 business, and bought my
 first, a Droid 2, a couple of years ago. I opted for the android phone in 
 part because, at the time,
 Verizon didn't support iPhones, and because the Droid 2 had a slide out 
 mini keyboard. At the store
 I had tried typing on the screen of another android phone without keyboard 
 and found it nearly
 impossible. At first I used the slide out keyboard on the D2, but it was 
 cumbersome and slow. I
 eventually learned to manage fairly well typing on the screen but 
 frequently had to backtrack to
 correct mistakes. A few weeks ago I became eligible for a phone upgrade, so 
 I stopped in at the
 Verizon store and tried several phones. I found that the iPhone 5 was much 
 easier to type on than
 any of the android phones. Don't know why, but it's easier to hit the right 
 letter on the touch
 screen. Now, I can buzz along rather well, with a hunt and peck method and 
 have found that I can
 even manage the two thumb technique. I will probably continue to practice 
 that. Sending e-mail from
 the phone is important to my journalism work, so it's worth the effort. Old 
 fartedom has at least
 been delayed.

 MY HTC Android phone has a quick calibration routine which once undertaken 
 reduces erroneous
 keystrokes markedly.

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Re: A modest proposal for Ricoh

2012-11-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
PJ,
You need Boris to make some comments here.
I believe he is very happily using a GRX.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:06 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I've had way too much time on my hands, and I've been thinking about the
 implications of the K-01 being a one off product.

  It seems that Ricoh could redeem itself by releasing a K mount module for
 the GRX.  Yes I know it's been proposed in the past, but now with Pentax and
 Ricoh having combined photographic imaging operations it actually makes
 sense.  It would also overcome the biggest beef that Pentax users had with
 the K-01, a lack of viewfinder.

 Heck the current price for a GRX base and a K module would be about the same
 as the original price for a K-01 assuming that the K module didn't cost any
 more than the Leica M module.

 It would make a mirrorless body with an additional EVF a viable backup for
 K-5 users

 Finally Pentax could offer the GRX and the different modules in various
 colors, why the possibilities of bad taste in color combinations alone are
 endless!

 --
 Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a
 lengthly search.


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Re: PESO - The Genuine Article

2012-11-29 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Dan!

Fortunately, there are many places with beer equal to Prague's; though the 
Czechs do lead the world in consumption!

Rick
 
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- Original Message -
From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
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Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - The Genuine Article

The genuine article indeed.  No place has better beer than Prague.

Nice image;  I like the way you made the beer dominant and just
suggested the other items on your table.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 In a Prague cafe:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16636672

 (Mediocre food, but very good beer)

 Comments appreciated!

 Rick

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Re: PESO - Charles Bridge, Message-ID:

2012-11-29 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Dan!

Rick
 
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Charles Bridge, Message-ID:

It's a wonderful image of a wonderful city.
Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another winner with a timeless peaceful ambiance. Wait that sound like a
 wine taster. Great photo!



 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

 Message: 2
 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:05:36 -0800 (PST)
 From: Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com
 To: Pentax Listpdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Charles Bridge
 Message-ID:
         1354068336.59761.yahoomail...@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Prague's famous Charles Bridge, with its statuary in silhouette:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16629695size=lg


 (K-5, DA 16-45)

 I think the next few will be daylight shots...

 Comments appreciated!

 Rick



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Re: PESO - Charles Bridge, Message-ID:

2012-11-29 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Don!

In Prague, the pickins' are better for beer tasters.

Rick
 
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- Original Message -
From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Charles Bridge, Message-ID:

Another winner with a timeless peaceful ambiance. Wait that sound like a 
wine taster. Great photo!



pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 Message: 2
 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:05:36 -0800 (PST)
 From: Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com
 To: Pentax Listpdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Charles Bridge
 Message-ID:
     1354068336.59761.yahoomail...@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Prague's famous Charles Bridge, with its statuary in silhouette:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16629695size=lg


 (K-5, DA 16-45)

 I think the next few will be daylight shots...

 Comments appreciated!

 Rick



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Re: A modest proposal for Ricoh

2012-11-29 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
- Mensaje original -

 De: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com

 So I've had way too much time on my hands, and I've been thinking about 
 the implications of the K-01 being a one off product.
 
 It seems that Ricoh could redeem itself by releasing a K mount module for the 
 GRX.  Yes I know it's been proposed in the past, but now with Pentax and 
 Ricoh having combined photographic imaging operations it actually makes 
 sense.  
 It would also overcome the biggest beef that Pentax users had with the K-01, 
 a 
 lack of viewfinder.
 
 Heck the current price for a GRX base and a K module would be about the same 
 as 
 the original price for a K-01 assuming that the K module didn't cost any 
 more than the Leica M module.
 
 It would make a mirrorless body with an additional EVF a viable backup for 
 K-5 
 users
 
 Finally Pentax could offer the GRX and the different modules in various 
 colors, 
 why the possibilities of bad taste in color combinations alone are endless!


Yes, I agree, this would be great.

However, in one of the recent (around Photokina) varous interviews with various 
Pentax-Rocoh engineers/managers, one of them said that they thought about it 
but that it did'nt quite fit with the portability of the GX-R concept due to 
the k-mount register distance needs.
My interpretation is that the module resulted too thick to go well with the 
'body'.

I agree that Boris must have a more informed opinion about this...

Regards,
Jaume


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Re: A modest proposal for Ricoh

2012-11-29 Thread Larry Colen

On Nov 29, 2012, at 8:06 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 So I've had way too much time on my hands, and I've been thinking about the 
 implications of the K-01 being a one off product.

Theres always the chance for a full frame follow on.  :-)

How about a replacement for the  AF540 which doesn't suck?  While we're at it, 
make it weather sealed, and make a GPS as an optional module.  Or, better yet, 
give it an internal radio trigger and put the GPS in the radio trigger 
transmitter.  That'd also give you accurate time codes for timing flashes.

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Re: Windows 8 Makes Me Consider a Mac

2012-11-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 The touch-screen iPhone was introduced more than five years ago.

Barely. Official release date of the Apple iPhone was June 29th, 2007.

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Re: A modest proposal for Ricoh

2012-11-29 Thread Boris Liberman

Reply interspersed.

On 11/29/2012 6:06 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

So I've had way too much time on my hands, and I've been thinking about
the implications of the K-01 being a one off product.


Canon had recently started a mirrorless series of cameras as well... So 
in terms of industry, K-01 is not alone. As for internal affairs - I 
might hazard a guess that no-one really knows.




  It seems that Ricoh could redeem itself by releasing a K mount module
for the GRX.  Yes I know it's been proposed in the past, but now with
Pentax and Ricoh having combined photographic imaging operations it
actually makes sense.  It would also overcome the biggest beef that
Pentax users had with the K-01, a lack of viewfinder.


No can do. The mechanics of AF and other things that accompany the mount 
are too big. The beauty of Leica M-mount is that (as far as I 
understand) the aperture control is manual, and is in the lens. So 
beside the mount itself, it would seem that GRX M-module only provides 
the shutter and the meter. Kinda neat in my view. Godfrey could probably 
tell more here.



Heck the current price for a GRX base and a K module would be about the
same as the original price for a K-01 assuming that the K module didn't
cost any more than the Leica M module.


Soon enough I will be getting my M-module, I hope. And then I will also 
buy an adapter so that I could try 50/1.2, 43/1.9 and 77/1.8 Pentax lenses.



It would make a mirrorless body with an additional EVF a viable backup
for K-5 users


I think it is much easier to design and produce K-02 with the built-in 
EVF for just that purpose.



Finally Pentax could offer the GRX and the different modules in various
colors, why the possibilities of bad taste in color combinations alone
are endless!


Keep coming ideas such as this, and the rumors of your untimely demise 
will not be exaggerated... *very evil wink*


Boris



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Re: LR4 question about images with unknown location

2012-11-29 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 28, 2012, at 20:27 , Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:

 Use the Find Missing Photos command in the Library menu. It will
 give you a grid view of all the photos that the catalog currently
 cannot locate based on currently stored file path references.
 

Perfect!  Funny that he didn't look there (nor did I, when he asked me for 
help).  Sorry to waste everyone's time.


 -Charles

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Re: OT: What's the world coming to...

2012-11-29 Thread John Sessoms

I'm inclined to believe consenting adults should be able to do whatever
they please with each other (caveat: as long as they're not doing it in
the middle of the street where it will scare the horses).

But, just to be on the safe side, I don't think it's unreasonable for
the government to require proof of that consent in writing. If it really
is true love, the sheep won't mind signing.




From: Brian Walters

Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com:


...when a chap can't hop across the Channel to Germanyland every now and
then, and have a weekend's healthy ficky-fick high on a hill with a lonely
goat of his acquaintance?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20523950

What will they ban next? Cannibalism?





Reminds me of the recent debate in the Australian Parliament on
legalising gay marriage (not surprisingly, that vote failed despite
the fact that the majority of Australians support the concept).

During the debate one MP (Cory Bernardi) ranted that legalising gay
marriage would lead to demands for bestiality to be legitimised.  His
nickname is now Cory Barnyardi.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-19/controversy-over-cory-bernardi-bestiality-comments/4269604





It's political correctness gone mad!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzaCZH1zGvw







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RE: File storage on the same card with two Pentax cameras

2012-11-29 Thread John Sessoms

From: Igor Roshchin

Hi All,

I am considering what would happen if two Pentax cameras
are using the same SD card (alternating).
Settings both are set to the same storage settings:
folders by date.
I wonder what would happen in the following two cases:
1. The prefix of the file name is set to the same, e.g. ABC_.DNG
Will the files shot on the same day by the two cameras be stored
in the same folder?
If so, - would the cameras be able to figure which file came from which
camera, or
would the cameras be incrementing their file number when they see
a file stored (by another one) with a higher number?

2. If the prefix of the file name is set to be different, e.g.
ABC_.DNG and XYZ_.DNG, would the cameras be saving them to the
same folder?
Would they be incrementing the file number? (I assume, - no)


While I can experiment with this, - I may get my new camera just before
leaving for the weekend where I want to use it. So, I'd rather think of
the file naming schema ahead of time.

Thank you,

Igor


SD cards are cheap. I'd just pick up some extra cards for the new camera.

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Re: A modest proposal for Ricoh

2012-11-29 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Every time I see a modest proposal I am reminded of that old cannibalism
parody piece.
Am I alone on that?


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Re: A modest proposal for Ricoh

2012-11-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
   It seems that Ricoh could redeem itself by releasing a K mount module
 for the GRX.  Yes I know it's been proposed in the past, but now with
 Pentax and Ricoh having combined photographic imaging operations it
 actually makes sense.  It would also overcome the biggest beef that
 Pentax users had with the K-01, a lack of viewfinder.

 No can do. The mechanics of AF and other things that accompany the mount are
 too big. The beauty of Leica M-mount is that (as far as I understand) the
 aperture control is manual, and is in the lens. So beside the mount itself,
 it would seem that GRX M-module only provides the shutter and the meter.
 Kinda neat in my view. Godfrey could probably tell more here.

I agree: the complexities of fully supporting Pentax SLR mount
features would/will make for a rather complicated and expensive GXR
camera unit, likely not a terribly saleable piece.

Mechanically, Leica M-bayonet mount is bone simple: there are no
connections between the lens and the body. The lens carries its own
aperture and focusing mechanism and is completely self contained.

The GXR A12 Camera Mount camera unit provides the mount, shutter, main
sensor, and all of the other bits needed to interface with the GXR
body's control and data systems. All of the lens correction bits,
image processing, metering, etc, options are part of the camera unit
and body control system. They read the light coming through the lens,
which is independently regulated by the lens' aperture and focusing
mount.

Placing a Pentax SLR lens on a mount adapter and fitting it to the GXR
A12 Camera Mount reduces the options in using the lens to that of an
M-bayonet lens ... no auto diaphragm, no auto focus, focus and
aperture self-contained on the lens. If that's all that a camera unit
was going to provide, there would be no need to build another camera
unit specifically for Pentax SLR lenses ... just fit the adapter or
build a deeper one with a K-bayonet flange. But I suspect that sort of
thing would not be all that palatable to many who see a Pentax camera
unit as supporting at least most of the Pentax SLR mount features.

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Re: File storage on the same card with two Pentax cameras

2012-11-29 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 02:04:03PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 SD cards are cheap. I'd just pick up some extra cards for the new camera.

That was pretty much my thought, too.  Sandisk 30MB/sec cards can be picked
up for around $1 to $1.50 per GB from a lot of the online merchants. That's
about what the top-of-the-line cards could do when the K5 was released, and
I paid a lot more than that for the 8GB cards I picked up when I bought mine
quite some time later. I doubt if K5 needs anything more than that, but if it
does you can find the 45MB/sec cards (that's the Extreme, not the Ultra)
at much the same price if you look hard enough.

It looks as though the current top-of-the-line speed is around 95MB/sec
(the Extreme Pro), but that's going to cost about twice as much per GB.

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Re: Request to use my photos - what are the smart questions to ask?

2012-11-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 I've been approached by a Danish (?) textbook company to use some of my 
 images for both print and ebook.

 They've asked nicely if they …can use some of your images.  For 
 non-profits, illustrative use, and other things I've been known to say sure, 
 just go ahead.

 Since this is a commercial venture, however, I'm inclined to say yes, but… 
 and ask to be compensated.

 It's been awhile since I've sold any images - what are the few concise smart 
 questions to ask them in terms of how the images will be used?

This is the exact form letter I used (successfully) on many occasions
when I was contacted in this way. I obtained the basic version of it
from the Editorial Photographers association and website, along with
many of the basic documents you need to do this sort of thing without
cutting your own throat (http://www.editorialphoto.com):

Dear {person who contacted you},

Thank you for your inquiry into the use of my copyrighted photographs.
I would be most pleased to license them for your use.

Do you have a Terms and Conditions of Use Agreement which you
customarily use? If not, I have a standard TCUA which I can prepare
for your review.

I use the licensing rates provided by FOTOQuote Pro software, which
requires that I know the market domain, press run, and intended use
for the photos to calculate a rate to quote for your use. If you can
provide this information, or have your own company photo rate schedule
that I can review, I will be happy to work with you to fix an
appropriate compensation for your use.

I look forward to doing business with you. And thank you again for your inquiry!

Sincerely,
{name
 title, business name, and full contact information}

Good luck! For a few years there, cold call contacts like this
provided a nice living ... it's a tough business.
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RE: Windows 8 Makes Me Consider a Mac

2012-11-29 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W

From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms

My experience with XP is that even if you right click  tell it to keep
the item on the menu permanently, eventually it will still wander off
somewhere. You'll have to hunt it down and pin it there again. You
just don't have to do it as frequently.



that's never happened to me. You must have pixies in your house who do it
while you're asleep.


Yeah, but you'd think they'd at least have the common curtsey to have
my coffee ready when I wake up in the mornings.

I think it may be some function of how frequently you use the start menu
for launching programs. I seldom do. The programs I use are almost all
either on the Quick Launch or are represented as desktop short-cuts I
can double click.

There are some programs I might use once or twice a year pinned to the
Start Menu itself, and those are the ones that seem prone to eventually
wander off.

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Re: WTB 300mm reflex (mirror) lens

2012-11-29 Thread Miserere
Those are quite cool, Paul. All you need now is some artsy fartsy BS
about deconstructing the individual within the crowd to mirror the
loss of social cohesion in modern cities and you've got yourself a
career as an artist. You might even make a few million if you print
these mural size and sell a single copy of each. Find yourself a beret
and a good gallery owner and you're in business.

I'm not joking.

As for the lens, you're in luck because now you can purchase a faulty
lens with a broken focus ring for a lot less money than a fully
functioning one. As an added bonus you gain instant artist-cred for
using a broken lens  :-)

Cheers,


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On 28 November 2012 00:51, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 The prices do seem to vary a bit, although the new M43 version is around 
 $400, so maybe that was the baseline the seller used. As it turns out I found 
 a Quantaray one last night that cost me $195 plus shipping and if Joe finds 
 his Celestron I might grab that one too and sell of whichever is the worst 
 performer.

 FWIW, this is what I have been using them for: 
 http://www.paulewins.com/PSC/semester_4_creative/index.html

 These really need to be seen as large as possible - they look best when 
 projected and when I printed them I went to A2 which is much as my printer 
 can handle.

 Paul


 On 28/11/2012, at 2:01 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:

 There's one available on eBay right now (in PK mount, coincidently),
 though they're asking way more than I'd be willing to pay:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140881917530

 Cheers,


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 On 27 November 2012 00:07, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:
 There was a Makinon 300mm reflex, f5.6 as I recall.  I almost bought
 one second hand around 1990 and got as far as taking some test shots
 in the shop which were impressive.  Alas, another purchase took
 precedence and I let it pass.  It'd be quite old now but if you found
 a clean example (refexes are a bit susceptible to fungus in my
 experience) it would be worth a look.  It's compactness is amazing, it
 is hardly bigger than a 50mm lens, probably smaller than a Canon 50mm
 lens.

 Here's a link to some comments about it:
 http://www.pentaxforums.com/userreviews/makinon-300mm-f5-6-mirror-lens.html
 Apparently there's a fair bit a of quality variation from sample to
 sample, but you shouldn't pay much for one so it could be worth the
 risk.  FWIW, I was at first disappointed with my Tamron SP500 reflex
 that I got in 1988, but it sharpened considerably after I put a good
 UV filter up front, the only lens I've had that result from (every
 other lens takes a tiny hit in sharpness when you use a UV filter).

 regards, Anthony


 On 27 November 2012 13:25, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, I only have a 400mm for sale. It's a Sigma f/5.6, and pretty
 good for a mirror lens.

 The only 300mm I'm aware of is indeed the one you mention for m4/3.

 Cheers,

   —M.


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Re: PESO: No SUVs Please

2012-11-29 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling

I'm just wondering if they include full life cycle energy costs and
emissions or just tailpipe.  It brings up the old question which is more
ecology friendly a traditional razor or an electric to which the answer
is it depends.


If the answer is Depends, I don't want to hear the question.

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Re: WTB 300mm reflex (mirror) lens

2012-11-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
Interesting shots. I like the effect and find the shots nicely composed. i 
think the look is limited, in that it's technique based and repetitive, but as 
a small portfolio, it works very well.

Paul
On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:

 Those are quite cool, Paul. All you need now is some artsy fartsy BS
 about deconstructing the individual within the crowd to mirror the
 loss of social cohesion in modern cities and you've got yourself a
 career as an artist. You might even make a few million if you print
 these mural size and sell a single copy of each. Find yourself a beret
 and a good gallery owner and you're in business.
 
 I'm not joking.
 
 As for the lens, you're in luck because now you can purchase a faulty
 lens with a broken focus ring for a lot less money than a fully
 functioning one. As an added bonus you gain instant artist-cred for
 using a broken lens  :-)
 
 Cheers,
 
 
   —M.
 
\/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com
 
http://EnticingTheLight.com
A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment
 
 
 
 On 28 November 2012 00:51, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 The prices do seem to vary a bit, although the new M43 version is around 
 $400, so maybe that was the baseline the seller used. As it turns out I 
 found a Quantaray one last night that cost me $195 plus shipping and if Joe 
 finds his Celestron I might grab that one too and sell of whichever is the 
 worst performer.
 
 FWIW, this is what I have been using them for: 
 http://www.paulewins.com/PSC/semester_4_creative/index.html
 
 These really need to be seen as large as possible - they look best when 
 projected and when I printed them I went to A2 which is much as my printer 
 can handle.
 
 Paul
 
 
 On 28/11/2012, at 2:01 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There's one available on eBay right now (in PK mount, coincidently),
 though they're asking way more than I'd be willing to pay:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140881917530
 
 Cheers,
 
 
  —M.
 
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   http://EnticingTheLight.com
   A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment
 
 
 
 On 27 November 2012 00:07, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:
 There was a Makinon 300mm reflex, f5.6 as I recall.  I almost bought
 one second hand around 1990 and got as far as taking some test shots
 in the shop which were impressive.  Alas, another purchase took
 precedence and I let it pass.  It'd be quite old now but if you found
 a clean example (refexes are a bit susceptible to fungus in my
 experience) it would be worth a look.  It's compactness is amazing, it
 is hardly bigger than a 50mm lens, probably smaller than a Canon 50mm
 lens.
 
 Here's a link to some comments about it:
 http://www.pentaxforums.com/userreviews/makinon-300mm-f5-6-mirror-lens.html
 Apparently there's a fair bit a of quality variation from sample to
 sample, but you shouldn't pay much for one so it could be worth the
 risk.  FWIW, I was at first disappointed with my Tamron SP500 reflex
 that I got in 1988, but it sharpened considerably after I put a good
 UV filter up front, the only lens I've had that result from (every
 other lens takes a tiny hit in sharpness when you use a UV filter).
 
 regards, Anthony
 
 
 On 27 November 2012 13:25, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, I only have a 400mm for sale. It's a Sigma f/5.6, and pretty
 good for a mirror lens.
 
 The only 300mm I'm aware of is indeed the one you mention for m4/3.
 
 Cheers,
 
  —M.
 
 
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Re: PESO: No SUVs Please

2012-11-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for looking and for your comments, PJ, Jack and John.

This sign amused me quite a bit.  It is in the parking lot of the
visitor center and environmental education center of
Duke Farms.

I found the sign, and many of the other displays, unnecessarily
preachy in tone, especially from a foundation funded by big tobacco
money.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:29 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling

 I'm just wondering if they include full life cycle energy costs and
 emissions or just tailpipe.  It brings up the old question which is more
 ecology friendly a traditional razor or an electric to which the answer
 is it depends.


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Sony NEX-7 and Pentax 40/2.8 Pancake

2012-11-29 Thread Tom C
This combination is pretty sweet actually. I've become more interested
in using my old manual focus Pentax lenses on the NEX-7. A few shots
of the combo and one taken using it.

The adapter is a Fotodiox Lens Mount Adapter w/ Aperture Control
Pentax K, Pk Lens to Sony E-series Camera purchased from Amazon for
$22.
http://www.amazon.com/Fotodiox-Adapter-Aperture-Control-Pentax/dp/B005ORIS4Y

All lens operations are strictly manual.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16638082size=lg

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16638079size=lg

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16638113size=lg

I've ordered a similar adapter for Nikon to E-mount as I have a brand
new (hard to believe) Nikon 50/1.8 E-series (also pancake style)
arriving. That lens should also work well as a nice lens on the D800E
for night lanscapes.

Tom C.

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Re: File storage on the same card with two Pentax cameras

2012-11-29 Thread Igor Roshchin

Thu Nov 29 14:04:03 EST 2012
John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Igor Roshchin
 
  Hi All,
 
  I am considering what would happen if two Pentax cameras
  are using the same SD card (alternating).
  Settings both are set to the same storage settings:
  folders by date.
  I wonder what would happen in the following two cases:
  1. The prefix of the file name is set to the same, e.g. ABC_.DNG
  Will the files shot on the same day by the two cameras be stored
  in the same folder?
  If so, - would the cameras be able to figure which file came from which
  camera, or
  would the cameras be incrementing their file number when they see
  a file stored (by another one) with a higher number?
 
  2. If the prefix of the file name is set to be different, e.g.
  ABC_.DNG and XYZ_.DNG, would the cameras be saving them to the
  same folder?
  Would they be incrementing the file number? (I assume, - no)
 
 
  While I can experiment with this, - I may get my new camera just before
  leaving for the weekend where I want to use it. So, I'd rather think of
  the file naming schema ahead of time.
 
  Thank you,
 
  Igor
 
 SD cards are cheap. I'd just pick up some extra cards for the new camera.

That reminded me an old joke:
At a retail store:
- Do you have toilet paper?
- No, but we have sandpaper.


On a serious note, - I have several cards, even for one body.
Occasionally, I had to multiplex the card from my K-7, and
stick it into a small PS (Lumix)  that I am was using for recording videos
in the class I am teaching.
With different camera brands, it is not a problem, - they write into
different directories. For the same brand, and especially cameras as
generationally close as K-5* and K-7, the situation is different.
So, I would like to plan for contingencies, and set up the naming on the
newer camera to avoid potential conflicts and mixups.


So, - thank you to all who shared their experience and thoughts on the
subject, - they are helpful!

And I know that my K-5 IIs has already arrived to my house.
I hope to have enough time to open the box and see it tonight.
I am going to use it tomorrow night and on the weekend at a tango 
festival. That will be a good test for the low-light performance.

Igor



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RE: A modest proposal for Ricoh

2012-11-29 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
 Soon enough I will be getting my M-module, I hope. And then I will also
 buy an adapter so that I could try 50/1.2, 43/1.9 and 77/1.8 Pentax lenses.
 
 Boris

Caveat - I recently purchased a similar K-mount adapter for a different system 
and it just wouldn't mount the 50/1.2. All other lenses fine but the huge back 
element of the 50/1.2 just wouldn't go all the way in, no way to lock it in 
place. YMMV.

As to the original proposal - I don't see a market for such a module. Q module 
perhaps?

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Re: WTB 300mm reflex (mirror) lens

2012-11-29 Thread Paul Ewins
Well it's definitely art photography and usually bigger means better in art 
photography :-)  The new lens will be used more for working with one or two 
people, simply so that I can work a bit closer to them. I'm hoping that I can 
get a different aspect to the look by posing people rather than just shooting 
on the street. With luck I can add another twelve shots to the portfolio and 
call it a day. 

Paul



On 30/11/2012, at 8:26 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 Interesting shots. I like the effect and find the shots nicely composed. i 
 think the look is limited, in that it's technique based and repetitive, but 
 as a small portfolio, it works very well.
 
 Paul
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Those are quite cool, Paul. All you need now is some artsy fartsy BS
 about deconstructing the individual within the crowd to mirror the
 loss of social cohesion in modern cities and you've got yourself a
 career as an artist. You might even make a few million if you print
 these mural size and sell a single copy of each. Find yourself a beret
 and a good gallery owner and you're in business.
 
 I'm not joking.
 
 As for the lens, you're in luck because now you can purchase a faulty
 lens with a broken focus ring for a lot less money than a fully
 functioning one. As an added bonus you gain instant artist-cred for
 using a broken lens  :-)
 
 Cheers,
 
 
  —M.
 
   \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com
 
   http://EnticingTheLight.com
   A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment
 
 


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RE: Sony NEX-7 and Pentax 40/2.8 Pancake

2012-11-29 Thread J.C. O'Connell
wouldnt it be easier to use the pentax lenses on a pentax dslr?
with the adapter, the pancake looks more like a tall stack of pancakes...

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tom C
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:37 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Sony NEX-7 and Pentax 40/2.8 Pancake

This combination is pretty sweet actually. I've become more interested
in using my old manual focus Pentax lenses on the NEX-7. A few shots
of the combo and one taken using it.

The adapter is a Fotodiox Lens Mount Adapter w/ Aperture Control
Pentax K, Pk Lens to Sony E-series Camera purchased from Amazon for
$22.
http://www.amazon.com/Fotodiox-Adapter-Aperture-Control-Pentax/dp/B005ORIS4Y

All lens operations are strictly manual.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16638082size=lg

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16638079size=lg

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16638113size=lg

I've ordered a similar adapter for Nikon to E-mount as I have a brand
new (hard to believe) Nikon 50/1.8 E-series (also pancake style)
arriving. That lens should also work well as a nice lens on the D800E
for night lanscapes.

Tom C.

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Re: Sony NEX-7 and Pentax 40/2.8 Pancake

2012-11-29 Thread William Robb

On 29/11/2012 5:53 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

wouldnt it be easier to use the pentax lenses on a pentax dslr?
with the adapter, the pancake looks more like a tall stack of pancakes...



I've often wondered about that. Tom is incensed that Pentax doesn't 
perform up to the level of the competition, and I can certainly 
understand that, but I don't see the logic of buying adapters that kill 
any possible performance gain that the new system gives to use the old 
lenses.
AF isn't fast enough, so lets put the lens on a camera via an adapter so 
that there is no AF doesn't strike me as an especially logical thing to do.


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RE: PESO: No SUVs Please

2012-11-29 Thread Bob W
it's a sign for a bicycle rack

B

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 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis
 Sent: 29 November 2012 14:17
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: PESO: No SUVs Please
 
 Now there's a vague sign.
 Excludes Hummers?
 
 Jack
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Cc:
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:53 AM
 Subject: PESO: No SUVs Please
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16630745
 
 Comments are always appreciated.
 
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RE: A modest proposal for Ricoh

2012-11-29 Thread Bob W
that's presumably why people use the phrase, although Swift was being
somewhat satirical in his use, and many people seem not to realise that when
they use it.

B

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 Sent: 29 November 2012 19:36
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: A modest proposal for Ricoh
 
 Every time I see a modest proposal I am reminded of that old
 cannibalism parody piece.
 Am I alone on that?
 
 
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Re: File storage on the same card with two Pentax cameras

2012-11-29 Thread jn289

Igor, I have done this many times without any issues..Joe





Hi All,

I am considering what would happen if two Pentax cameras
are using the same SD card (alternating).
Settings both are set to the same storage settings:
folders by date.
I wonder what would happen in the following two cases:
1. The prefix of the file name is set to the same, e.g. ABC_.DNG
Will the files shot on the same day by the two cameras be stored
in the same folder?
If so, - would the cameras be able to figure which file came from which
camera, or
would the cameras be incrementing their file number when they see
a file stored (by another one) with a higher number? 


2. If the prefix of the file name is set to be different, e.g.
ABC_.DNG and XYZ_.DNG, would the cameras be saving them to the
same folder?
Would they be incrementing the file number? (I assume, - no)


While I can experiment with this, - I may get my new camera just before
leaving for the weekend where I want to use it. So, I'd rather think of
the file naming schema ahead of time.

Thank you,

Igor


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Re: PESO: No SUVs Please

2012-11-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
LOL

Unfortunately not.  It marks out the best spots in the parking lot.

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On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 it's a sign for a bicycle rack

 B

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 Sent: 29 November 2012 14:17
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: PESO: No SUVs Please

 Now there's a vague sign.
 Excludes Hummers?

 Jack

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 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Cc:
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:53 AM
 Subject: PESO: No SUVs Please

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Re: WTB 300mm reflex (mirror) lens

2012-11-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Ewins wrote:

I'm hoping that I can get a different aspect to the look by posing people 
rather than just shooting on the street. 

A 300 can be an excellent portrait lens sometimes. Here's one taken
with my K10-D and the Sigma 300/2.8 - but it's not my photo. It was
taken at GFM 2007 with my camera and lens but not by me. I have no
idea who grabbed my camera and got this shot, but it's a fine portrait
of Doug Brewer:

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d701508.jpg
1/160 second, f/4.0, ISO 400
Photographer unknown
 
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Re: A modest proposal for Ricoh

2012-11-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote:

that's presumably why people use the phrase, although Swift was being
somewhat satirical in his us

somewhat satirical?
 
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Re: Request to use my photos - what are the smart questions to ask?

2012-11-29 Thread jn289
Charles, if the photos that they want to use are 
one of a kind and can not be repeated, you should 
ask a higher fee, But if you are just happy that 
they asked to use them and will get a publication 
credit, then think very hard as not to price them 
out of the question. As to how I know about this 
is because I have had many photos published in 
newspapers, magazines, etc.
A list of my photo credits in on the page at the 
Pentax users gallery at the following link. When 
I first started it was nice to get the photo 
credit, but the money even made it nicer.. Joe


http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/joedixon



I've been approached by a Danish (?) textbook 
company to use some of my images for both print 
and ebook.


They've asked nicely if they Šcan use some of 
your images.  For non-profits, illustrative 
use, and other things I've been known to say 
sure, just go ahead.


Since this is a commercial venture, however, I'm 
inclined to say yes, butŠ and ask to be 
compensated.


It's been awhile since I've sold any images - 
what are the few concise smart questions to ask 
them in terms of how the images will be used? 



 -Charles

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Re: Sony NEX-7 and Pentax 40/2.8 Pancake

2012-11-29 Thread Tom C
 From: William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com

 On 29/11/2012 5:53 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
 wouldnt it be easier to use the pentax lenses on a pentax dslr?
 with the adapter, the pancake looks more like a tall stack of pancakes...


 I've often wondered about that. Tom is incensed that Pentax doesn't
 perform up to the level of the competition, and I can certainly
 understand that, but I don't see the logic of buying adapters that kill
 any possible performance gain that the new system gives to use the old
 lenses.
 AF isn't fast enough, so lets put the lens on a camera via an adapter so
 that there is no AF doesn't strike me as an especially logical thing to do.

 William Robb

But that's not the point at all in this case or many others. Yeah I
think Pentax AF can be improved, but shooting landscapes that's never
been a big complaint of mine. Using it on a Pentax DSLR I'd be missing
8MP of information.

This was not an AF lens to begin with and I doubt I've used it in a
decade. However on a 24MP body it becomes a nice general purpose
focuser of light rays, even with an adapter that equals the depth of
the lens. It's still very compact. Shooting landscapes and such, or
night landscapes, chances are there's no focusing involved. Set to
infinity and shoot.

So instead of just letting the lens collect dust I can use it. Granted
I have an E-mount 50/1.8, but there's something kind of cool about
using the older lens. You gotta admit that setting aperture on the
lens is more fun than setting it on the body.

Tom C.

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Re: PESO - The Genuine Article

2012-11-29 Thread jn289
Rick, Nice photo, Does a Budweiser taste better there then in the 
United States ? Joe

P.S. I would not know the difference, because I do not drink..






In a Prague cafe:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16636672

(Mediocre food, but very good beer)

Comments appreciated!

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PESO - Work Dogs

2012-11-29 Thread jn289

Park in a pizza store lot...Joe

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16625312

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Re: PESO - Which is smarter of safer ?

2012-11-29 Thread jn289

Thanks Dan and whoever else had a look...Joe





A humorous image, well captured and rendered.  I like it, Joe.
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:22 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote:

 Another snapshot with a Nikon Coolpic S8100, Joe
 P.S. Neither is mine


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Re: PESO: No SUVs Please

2012-11-29 Thread jn289
Dan, I guess the vehicles have to be plugged in or something like 
that and maybe if other regular gas  vehicles are parked there, they 
might get towed or a ticket..Joe




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Re: PESO - The Genuine Article

2012-11-29 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Joe!

Budweiser in Prague is not the same beer (or company) as Budweiser in the US, 
at all.

Think... really good Starbucks (or your favorite cafe) coffee versus coffee 
from a vending machine.

Or, a prime aged strip steak, perfectly cooked, versus a Big Mac.

Rick
 
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Rick, Nice photo, Does a Budweiser taste better there then in the 
United States ? Joe
P.S. I would not know the difference, because I do not drink..





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Re: PESO - Work Dogs

2012-11-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Great expressions!
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Re: Sony NEX-7 and Pentax 40/2.8 Pancake

2012-11-29 Thread Miserere
On 29 November 2012 19:56, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 You gotta admit that setting aperture on the
 lens is more fun than setting it on the body.

Then maybe you should buy a Fuji Mirrorless...?  :-p


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Batman's car for sale

2012-11-29 Thread jn289




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Re: Batman's car for sale

2012-11-29 Thread lrc
I used to know Bob Solomon,  who painted it.

jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote:




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PESO - Ioana (caution: messenger content)

2012-11-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I had to leave this one in colour: 

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/11/ioana.html?m=0

The matching pink dreads, earlobe plug and fingernails just couldn't be 
monochromed.  ;-)

Ioana is a part time student at University of Toronto and full time speed 
demon. She's won the women's division of several messenger races (the men and 
women race at the same time but top women get prizes as well as top men).

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Ioana (caution: messenger content)

2012-11-29 Thread Miserere
There's nothing wrong with colour, Frank. Just use it cautiously  :-)

Loana seems like a tough chick and she handles this colour portrait
like a champ. I like it.

Good to see you're out taking good pics and not just spinning your wheels.

Cheers,


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 I had to leave this one in colour:

  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/11/ioana.html?m=0

 The matching pink dreads, earlobe plug and fingernails just couldn't be 
 monochromed.  ;-)

 Ioana is a part time student at University of Toronto and full time speed 
 demon. She's won the women's division of several messenger races (the men and 
 women race at the same time but top women get prizes as well as top men).

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

 Cheers,
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Re: BH - no respect for Pentax

2012-11-29 Thread Igor Roshchin

Jim,

I discovered those prices for Pentax later, after the original e-mail on
this thread, - and sent a separate e-mail (actually, more than one)
to the list.
What's strange is that they didn't advertise Pentax prices under
Black Friday day list (and banner). And that's what I first was
referring to. They never placed any of the Pentax items on that list.

I also got IIs, - just unpacked it moments ago and set the battery to
charge.

Igor



Mon Nov 26 19:23:07 EST 2012
James King wrote:

 Perhaps you didn't search the BH site.  They have several Pentax bodies
 priced significantly lower than last week right now.  For example, the
 K-5 IIs is $1049, a $250 discount from list.  Other deals are available
 as well.
 
 I placed my order over the weekend.
 
 Regards, Jim




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Re: Sony NEX-7 and Pentax 40/2.8 Pancake

2012-11-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 29 November 2012 19:56, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 You gotta admit that setting aperture on the
 lens is more fun than setting it on the body.

 Then maybe you should buy a Fuji Mirrorless...?  :-p

Why? Tom doesn't need to. He simply uses a nice Pentax lens on a
camera that gives him a bright TTL view without the flippy mirror in
the way. Even with the lens stopped down, most of the time.

I've been using SLR lenses adapted to TTL electronic cameras since
2008. It works BETTER than most DSLRs. AF is mostly useless.

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Re: PESO - The New Rocket

2012-11-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Yeah, they do! It's pretty cool. They're quite nice inside; a considerable 
improvement over the twenty five year old (or more!) rolling stock they're 
replacing.

I've got several interior shots; I'm sure I'll post them soon.

Cheers,
frank

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Sent: November 28, 2012 11/28/12
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Subject: Re: PESO - The New Rocket

Are these the ones that omit the car-end doors and allow you to walk
through the train via articulating couplings?


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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Top speed 55 mph. Same as the old trains. Assuming, however, that's governed.

 Don't know if the new aerodynamic trains might be more energy efficient. They 
 also have smoother exterior shells at the car connections, so that might 
 help, too.

 Quite nice interiors; one day when I have time I'll process some interior 
 shots to show you.

 Thanks to all who looked and commented.

 Cheers,
 frank

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 Sent: November 26, 2012 11/26/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO - The New Rocket

 Frank,
 Good looking, but are they any faster for all the aero styling.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 We've been taking delivery of new subway trains (affectionately called 
 rockets - as are our streetcars) late last year. I got to travel on them 
 often when my collarbone was broken and I was metropassing/walking. Here's 
 one pulling into Rosedale Station:

  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/11/the-new-rocket.html?m=0

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
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Re: PESO - The New Rocket

2012-11-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I used to live on Summerhill near Glen Road. Wonderful neighbourhood! And right 
along the route of the bus to which you refer.

Used to use Rosedale Station all the time. When I was metropassing last month I 
was also there a lot as one of our clients was a block from that station.

Is the bridge you refer to the Governor's Road bridge? They renovated it maybe 
ten years ago. No longer stone, but they kept many of the stylistic cues of the 
old bridge.

Thanks for the comments! And thanks to everyone else who commented.

Cheers,
frank

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Sent: November 28, 2012 11/28/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - The New Rocket

Slick! Nice light there, and love the shot.

I haven't been down in the Rosedale station much at all since I moved
from that area. Used to live in a teensy part of East York that
bordered Rosedale. If we walked over a historic stone bridge we could
take the Rosedale bus into town by way of that station. It's a
gorgeous area.

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:38 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 We've been taking delivery of new subway trains (affectionately called 
 rockets - as are our streetcars) late last year. I got to travel on them 
 often when my collarbone was broken and I was metropassing/walking. Here's 
 one pulling into Rosedale Station:

  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/11/the-new-rocket.html?m=0

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
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Re: Pentax X-5

2012-11-29 Thread Igor Roshchin

John asked me to forward his message to the list.

From: John Likes superannuatedt...@gmail.com

As I am along time lurker, I do not know how to respond on list.  However,
I bought an x-5 about a month ago, based on price mostly.  The camera is
okay, build quality is somewhat lacking, but mostly I bought it for the
22mm to 560mm equivalent zoom, and frankly as well, the flexibility of
having an OK Pentax I could maybe post something to pdml with.  That said,
the camera is limited software wise--it is basically a point and shoot with
a long zoom, and does not have raw or meaningful adjustments within the
jpeg.Actually, after playing with it for a month, I decided, I can do
better and did--maybe what I should have done before==ordering a K-01,
figuring to use a bunch of K mount lenses from film days..  I already have
a K-20, but it is heavy, and I am seduced by the small, light, and easy.
If it will help, you may go to
http://pastichestudio.smugmug.com.  I have posted a few very
unrepresentative test shots there.  One of the plusses of the x-5 is HD
1080p video.  Again, this is not broadcast/professional grade, but for
$275, I think quite good.

I hope this is helpful.

Best regards,
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RE: PAW151 - Fog

2012-11-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Stunning!

cheers,
frank

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Subject: PAW151 - Fog

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Wooden box, no lens, just a hole making f/138, 40s, Ilford HP5+ (ISO400).

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Re: PESO - Ioana (caution: messenger content)

2012-11-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice dynamic image.
Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:07 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had to leave this one in colour:

  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/11/ioana.html?m=0

 The matching pink dreads, earlobe plug and fingernails just couldn't be 
 monochromed.  ;-)

 Ioana is a part time student at University of Toronto and full time speed 
 demon. She's won the women's division of several messenger races (the men and 
 women race at the same time but top women get prizes as well as top men).

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Re: Batman's car for sale

2012-11-29 Thread kwaller

I'd question the originality as there were several made.

Kenneth Waller
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RE: PESO 2012 - 134 - GDG

2012-11-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That's a very American photo.

Wonderful!

Cheers,
frank

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Subject: PESO 2012 - 134 - GDG

Another film image for your enjoyment ...
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8229153476/lightbox

My photography is all over the map right now as I work out some ideas in my 
head. The problem is how little time I have to concentrate on it just at the 
moment. 

Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated.

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Re: Sony NEX-7 and Pentax 40/2.8 Pancake

2012-11-29 Thread Tom C
 From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com

 On 29 November 2012 19:56, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 You gotta admit that setting aperture on the
 lens is more fun than setting it on the body.

 Then maybe you should buy a Fuji Mirrorless...?  :-p

   ?M.

To be honest I just don't see a camera from Fuji that comes close to
the NEX-7 performance for the price. No where near the 24MP resolution
and far fewer new lenses than Sony now has in E-mount. That, and I
just always seem to find something that really bugs me in the reviews
of the Fuji products. I'm sure the IQ is good, but all things
considered I'll go with Sony. I like their retro looks too, but...

Tom C.

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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 79, Issue 187

2012-11-29 Thread Tom C
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 29 November 2012 19:56, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 You gotta admit that setting aperture on the
 lens is more fun than setting it on the body.

 Then maybe you should buy a Fuji Mirrorless...?  :-p

 Why? Tom doesn't need to. He simply uses a nice Pentax lens on a
 camera that gives him a bright TTL view without the flippy mirror in
 the way. Even with the lens stopped down, most of the time.

 I've been using SLR lenses adapted to TTL electronic cameras since
 2008. It works BETTER than most DSLRs. AF is mostly useless.

That's true. In bright and normal light I really like the EVF. In low
light, it gets noisy but still I can see somewhat of what I'm
shooting. It's definitely no worse than an optical VF where you can
barely see anything when shooting in low light. And as stated, I still
get a pretty bright view even when stopped down.

I also like the fact that the NEX automatically switches between LCD
and EVF, sensing when my eye nears the viewfinder, and I can chimp in
the viewfinder without having to take my eye away and review the image
on the LCD. That means I can almost instantaneously fire another shot
if I don't like what I see.

Assuming IQ from the legacy lens is good on the body used, shooting on
a 24MP+ body with a manual lens is little different than deciding to
shoot medium format 15 years ago. Almost no medium format or large
format camera was auto-focus and the benefit was largely dependent on
the resolution/size of the medium being recorded upon. I don't
necessarily need to buy into a new format lens like with medium format
bodies (though I do have a number of E-mount lenses).

Here I can do all that for really, not much more than what a Pentax
DSLR costs, and unlike medium format, in a body size that borders on
being a compact camera. Consider the NEX-7 has 4X the resolution of an
*ist D.

To be honest, it's been a while since I've used a manual focus lens
aside from the FA/100 2.8 Macro in manual focus mode. I really enjoyed
using the 40mm on the NEX. There was something about the tactile
response of the lens, both in setting aperture and focus that made me
feel more in control, more in charge of what was going on.
Wahahahahaha!

I liked my 16MP NEX-5 (lacking a viewfinder), but I find the 24MP
NEX-7 a real joy to use and I can travel with a camera bag that is 1/6
the weight and 1/4 the size of what a DSLR kit would be. I'm not
through with DSLR's but the NEX-7 is without a doubt the 'go to
camera' at the moment.

Tom C.

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Re: Sony NEX-7 and Pentax 40/2.8 Pancake

2012-11-29 Thread Tom C
(Correct subject header this time)

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 29 November 2012 19:56, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 You gotta admit that setting aperture on the
 lens is more fun than setting it on the body.

 Then maybe you should buy a Fuji Mirrorless...?  :-p

 Why? Tom doesn't need to. He simply uses a nice Pentax lens on a
 camera that gives him a bright TTL view without the flippy mirror in
 the way. Even with the lens stopped down, most of the time.

 I've been using SLR lenses adapted to TTL electronic cameras since
 2008. It works BETTER than most DSLRs. AF is mostly useless.

That's true. In bright and normal light I really like the EVF. In low
light, it gets noisy but still I can see somewhat of what I'm
shooting. It's definitely no worse than an optical VF where you can
barely see anything when shooting in low light. And as stated, I still
get a pretty bright view even when stopped down.

I also like the fact that the NEX automatically switches between LCD
and EVF, sensing when my eye nears the viewfinder, and I can chimp in
the viewfinder without having to take my eye away and review the image
on the LCD. That means I can almost instantaneously fire another shot
if I don't like what I see.

Assuming IQ from the legacy lens is good on the body used, shooting on
a 24MP+ body with a manual lens is little different than deciding to
shoot medium format 15 years ago. Almost no medium format or large
format camera was auto-focus and the benefit was largely dependent on
the resolution/size of the medium being recorded upon. I don't
necessarily need to buy into a new format lens like with medium format
bodies (though I do have a number of E-mount lenses).

Here I can do all that for really, not much more than what a Pentax
DSLR costs, and unlike medium format, in a body size that borders on
being a compact camera. Consider the NEX-7 has 4X the resolution of an
*ist D.

To be honest, it's been a while since I've used a manual focus lens
aside from the FA/100 2.8 Macro in manual focus mode. I really enjoyed
using the 40mm on the NEX. There was something about the tactile
response of the lens, both in setting aperture and focus that made me
feel more in control, more in charge of what was going on.
Wahahahahaha!

I liked my 16MP NEX-5 (lacking a viewfinder), but I find the 24MP
NEX-7 a real joy to use and I can travel with a camera bag that is 1/6
the weight and 1/4 the size of what a DSLR kit would be. I'm not
through with DSLR's but the NEX-7 is without a doubt the 'go to
camera' at the moment.

Tom C.

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Re: Sony NEX-7 and Pentax 40/2.8 Pancake

2012-11-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 .. To be honest, it's been a while since I've used a manual focus lens
 aside from the FA/100 2.8 Macro in manual focus mode. I really enjoyed
 using the 40mm on the NEX. There was something about the tactile
 response of the lens, both in setting aperture and focus that made me
 feel more in control, more in charge of what was going on. ...

This is much the same as what I was experiencing with the Panasonic
G1, followed by the Ricoh GXR-M, and led me back to the Leicas. The
tactile responsiveness of focus, aperture and shutter release, the
sense that I'm the one in control. It's a joy.

I still have my Olympus E-1 and my Nikon F, but I've barely made a
dozen exposures with them all year. My other cameras are proving much
more satisfying to use for the present.

Such it is.

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Re: Batman's car for sale

2012-11-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If it's George Barris selling the car, who cares? He was the king of
custom car creations in that era. :-)

G


On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I'd question the originality as there were several made.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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Re: File storage on the same card with two Pentax cameras

2012-11-29 Thread Joseph McAllister
If you put a card formatted in the K-7 into a K-5, it is renamed K-5 if you 
use it at all. The K-7 doesn't have the ability to maintain the SD Card name. 
It looks like you can, but once you pop it in the K-7 and use it, it's back to 
SD Card.

Might be a workaround for that, but I'm not aware of one.


On Nov 29, 2012, at 15:02 , Igor Roshchin wrote:

 On a serious note, - I have several cards, even for one body.
 Occasionally, I had to multiplex the card from my K-7, and
 stick it into a small PS (Lumix)  that I am was using for recording videos
 in the class I am teaching.
 With different camera brands, it is not a problem, - they write into
 different directories. For the same brand, and especially cameras as
 generationally close as K-5* and K-7, the situation is different.
 So, I would like to plan for contingencies, and set up the naming on the
 newer camera to avoid potential conflicts and mixups.


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