Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Chris Mitchell]

Yes Brian, mine still works as it's supposed to, but I stick to the "mostly
useless" statement! With any other MF lens, it's an ME Super with focus
confirmation so still handy. I'm surprised that Pentax never made a MF
version of that lens. I wonder where they got the optics from?

Chris
On 3 Jun 2016 21:42, "Brian Walters" <supera1...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016, at 05:29 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
> > Just to add to the just to join, I've got an ME-F and the weird AF
> > lens that Pentax produced. Mostly useless, but a good show and tell
> > for any PDML gathering.
>
>
> I have one of those too - everything worked last time I tried it but
> that was probably about 6-7 years ago.  I should fire it up again to
> check.
>
> It's interesting that at a constant f2.8, I believe that lens was the
> fastest manual zoom that Pentax produced.  I guess something about it
> had to be fast because the AF wasn't :-)>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>
>
> >
> >
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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Alan C]

I have a working black P30 too. I would probably still shoot some film if 
there was a local photo lab still in operation. They used to develop & 
digitise a 24exp. film for about $10. If I shot film now I would either have 
to drive 200km to take advantage of their 2hour service or send the films 
off by post. I really wouldn't bother to have old film cameras serviced any 
more. Thank goodness for digital.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Mark C

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 9:24 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

I believe Eric Hendrickson still does CLA's on ME Supers. I replaced
mine with a very clean black model that had been recently serviced.
Though I shoot a lot of film still it does not get much use - honors go
the the Mz-S and Pz-1p.

On 6/3/2016 10:26 AM, Alan C wrote:
I have 3 ME Supers. (One bought new & the other two from a job lot I 
bought). One still works perfectly, one doesn't fire occasionally & the 
third fires only intermittently. From what I have read, a CLA (Clean, Lube 
& Adjust) service is necessary. Are there still techs who can do that? 
Apparently the grease on the many levers & pivots hardens with time, 
causing the problem. I tried leaving them in the sun which helped for a 
while but the problem recurred after a couple of hours.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: Mark C
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 3:41 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

Damn! I had an ME Super with the same problem that I tossed about a year
ago. I should have tried that.

On 6/2/2016 7:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
You are the 2nd or 3rd person that suggested that. So I just whacked it a 
few times for the 2nd or 3rd attempt. It worked!


Thanks Bob, and thanks to all who contributed suggestions!

stan


On Jun 2, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote:

Stan,
Give it a sharp spank or three.
I've cleared some hangups this way before on the ME Super.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stanley Halpin
<s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:
Good thought. But no help. I have worked the settings-dial back and 
forth a few times. The only position that feels different is L (Lock?). 
When in L position the shutter does not depress at all. In all other 
positions the shutter button moves but does nothing.



On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:23 AM, james <sup8p...@clubtelco.com> wrote:

Did you try setting to 125x position? isn't it supposed to be the only 
mechanical speed? or Bulb?



James


On 2/06/2016 2:09 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

If he doesn't, I do! LOL

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

You want an LX and all the viewfinders?


On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:


I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do 
a

few rolls for old-times sake...

stan


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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016, at 05:29 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
> Just to add to the just to join, I've got an ME-F and the weird AF
> lens that Pentax produced. Mostly useless, but a good show and tell
> for any PDML gathering.


I have one of those too - everything worked last time I tried it but
that was probably about 6-7 years ago.  I should fire it up again to
check.

It's interesting that at a constant f2.8, I believe that lens was the
fastest manual zoom that Pentax produced.  I guess something about it
had to be fast because the AF wasn't :-)>


Cheers

Brian

++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/


> 
> Chris
> 
> On 3 June 2016 at 17:43, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Just to join the theme, I have both an ME Super and an Super Program. Tried 
> > the ME just to
> > confirm the battery is dead. Haven't tried the Program, in fact I bought it 
> > used years ago
> > along with an attached M-50mm F2 lens. I, honestly don't believe I ever put 
> > a roll of film
> > through it. May go to The Battery Store and stump them for the first time. 
> > :(
> >
> > J
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Alan C" <c...@lantic.net>
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
> > Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 7:26:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: ME Super diagnosis needed
> >
> > I have 3 ME Supers. (One bought new & the other two from a job lot I
> > bought). One still works perfectly, one doesn't fire occasionally & the
> > third fires only intermittently. From what I have read, a CLA (Clean, Lube &
> > Adjust) service is necessary. Are there still techs who can do that?
> > Apparently the grease on the many levers & pivots hardens with time, causing
> > the problem. I tried leaving them in the sun which helped for a while but
> > the problem recurred after a couple of hours.
> >
> > Alan C
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark C
> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 3:41 PM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: ME Super diagnosis needed
> >
> > Damn! I had an ME Super with the same problem that I tossed about a year
> > ago. I should have tried that.
> >
> > On 6/2/2016 7:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
> >> You are the 2nd or 3rd person that suggested that. So I just whacked it a
> >> few times for the 2nd or 3rd attempt. It worked!
> >>
> >> Thanks Bob, and thanks to all who contributed suggestions!
> >>
> >> stan
> >>
> >>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Stan,
> >>> Give it a sharp spank or three.
> >>> I've cleared some hangups this way before on the ME Super.
> >>> Regards,  Bob S.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stanley Halpin
> >>> <s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:
> >>>> Good thought. But no help. I have worked the settings-dial back and
> >>>> forth a few times. The only position that feels different is L (Lock?).
> >>>> When in L position the shutter does not depress at all. In all other
> >>>> positions the shutter button moves but does nothing.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:23 AM, james <sup8p...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did you try setting to 125x position? isn't it supposed to be the only
> >>>>> mechanical speed? or Bulb?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> James
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2/06/2016 2:09 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
> >>>>>> If he doesn't, I do! LOL
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> You want an LX and all the viewfinders?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
> >>>>>>>> the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a
> >>>>>>>> few rolls for old-times sake...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> stan
> >>>>>>>>
> >>

Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Chris Mitchell]

Just to add to the just to join, I've got an ME-F and the weird AF
lens that Pentax produced. Mostly useless, but a good show and tell
for any PDML gathering.

Chris

On 3 June 2016 at 17:43, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Just to join the theme, I have both an ME Super and an Super Program. Tried 
> the ME just to
> confirm the battery is dead. Haven't tried the Program, in fact I bought it 
> used years ago
> along with an attached M-50mm F2 lens. I, honestly don't believe I ever put a 
> roll of film
> through it. May go to The Battery Store and stump them for the first time. :(
>
> J
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alan C" <c...@lantic.net>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 7:26:49 AM
> Subject: Re: ME Super diagnosis needed
>
> I have 3 ME Supers. (One bought new & the other two from a job lot I
> bought). One still works perfectly, one doesn't fire occasionally & the
> third fires only intermittently. From what I have read, a CLA (Clean, Lube &
> Adjust) service is necessary. Are there still techs who can do that?
> Apparently the grease on the many levers & pivots hardens with time, causing
> the problem. I tried leaving them in the sun which helped for a while but
> the problem recurred after a couple of hours.
>
> Alan C
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Mark C
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 3:41 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: ME Super diagnosis needed
>
> Damn! I had an ME Super with the same problem that I tossed about a year
> ago. I should have tried that.
>
> On 6/2/2016 7:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
>> You are the 2nd or 3rd person that suggested that. So I just whacked it a
>> few times for the 2nd or 3rd attempt. It worked!
>>
>> Thanks Bob, and thanks to all who contributed suggestions!
>>
>> stan
>>
>>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Stan,
>>> Give it a sharp spank or three.
>>> I've cleared some hangups this way before on the ME Super.
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stanley Halpin
>>> <s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:
>>>> Good thought. But no help. I have worked the settings-dial back and
>>>> forth a few times. The only position that feels different is L (Lock?).
>>>> When in L position the shutter does not depress at all. In all other
>>>> positions the shutter button moves but does nothing.
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:23 AM, james <sup8p...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you try setting to 125x position? isn't it supposed to be the only
>>>>> mechanical speed? or Bulb?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> James
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/06/2016 2:09 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>>>>> If he doesn't, I do! LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> You want an LX and all the viewfinders?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
>>>>>>>> the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a
>>>>>>>> few rolls for old-times sake...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> stan
>>>>>>>>
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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Mark C]

I believe Eric Hendrickson still does CLA's on ME Supers. I replaced 
mine with a very clean black model that had been recently serviced. 
Though I shoot a lot of film still it does not get much use - honors go 
the the Mz-S and Pz-1p.


On 6/3/2016 10:26 AM, Alan C wrote:
I have 3 ME Supers. (One bought new & the other two from a job lot I 
bought). One still works perfectly, one doesn't fire occasionally & 
the third fires only intermittently. From what I have read, a CLA 
(Clean, Lube & Adjust) service is necessary. Are there still techs who 
can do that? Apparently the grease on the many levers & pivots hardens 
with time, causing the problem. I tried leaving them in the sun which 
helped for a while but the problem recurred after a couple of hours.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: Mark C
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 3:41 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

Damn! I had an ME Super with the same problem that I tossed about a year
ago. I should have tried that.

On 6/2/2016 7:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
You are the 2nd or 3rd person that suggested that. So I just whacked 
it a few times for the 2nd or 3rd attempt. It worked!


Thanks Bob, and thanks to all who contributed suggestions!

stan


On Jun 2, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote:

Stan,
Give it a sharp spank or three.
I've cleared some hangups this way before on the ME Super.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stanley Halpin
<s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:
Good thought. But no help. I have worked the settings-dial back and 
forth a few times. The only position that feels different is L 
(Lock?). When in L position the shutter does not depress at all. In 
all other positions the shutter button moves but does nothing.



On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:23 AM, james <sup8p...@clubtelco.com> wrote:

Did you try setting to 125x position? isn't it supposed to be the 
only mechanical speed? or Bulb?



James


On 2/06/2016 2:09 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

If he doesn't, I do! LOL

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill 
<anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:

You want an LX and all the viewfinders?


On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:


I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to 
do a

few rolls for old-times sake...

stan


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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Jack Davis]

Just to join the theme, I have both an ME Super and an Super Program. Tried the 
ME just to
confirm the battery is dead. Haven't tried the Program, in fact I bought it 
used years ago 
along with an attached M-50mm F2 lens. I, honestly don't believe I ever put a 
roll of film 
through it. May go to The Battery Store and stump them for the first time. :(

J
- Original Message -
From: "Alan C" <c...@lantic.net>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 7:26:49 AM
Subject: Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

I have 3 ME Supers. (One bought new & the other two from a job lot I 
bought). One still works perfectly, one doesn't fire occasionally & the 
third fires only intermittently. From what I have read, a CLA (Clean, Lube & 
Adjust) service is necessary. Are there still techs who can do that? 
Apparently the grease on the many levers & pivots hardens with time, causing 
the problem. I tried leaving them in the sun which helped for a while but 
the problem recurred after a couple of hours.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Mark C
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 3:41 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

Damn! I had an ME Super with the same problem that I tossed about a year
ago. I should have tried that.

On 6/2/2016 7:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
> You are the 2nd or 3rd person that suggested that. So I just whacked it a 
> few times for the 2nd or 3rd attempt. It worked!
>
> Thanks Bob, and thanks to all who contributed suggestions!
>
> stan
>
>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Stan,
>> Give it a sharp spank or three.
>> I've cleared some hangups this way before on the ME Super.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stanley Halpin
>> <s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:
>>> Good thought. But no help. I have worked the settings-dial back and 
>>> forth a few times. The only position that feels different is L (Lock?). 
>>> When in L position the shutter does not depress at all. In all other 
>>> positions the shutter button moves but does nothing.
>>>
>>>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:23 AM, james <sup8p...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Did you try setting to 125x position? isn't it supposed to be the only 
>>>> mechanical speed? or Bulb?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/06/2016 2:09 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>>>> If he doesn't, I do! LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> You want an LX and all the viewfinders?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
>>>>>>> the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a
>>>>>>> few rolls for old-times sake...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> stan
>>>>>>>
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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[P.J. Alling]

There are quite a few techs that can still do a CLA on the mechanical 
parts.  If any of the electronics are bad you're kind of out of luck.  
Unfortunately the only one I've used recently is in Tenn. and you being 
in SA could probably buy a working ME Super for less than the shipping 
charges.


On 6/3/2016 10:26 AM, Alan C wrote:
I have 3 ME Supers. (One bought new & the other two from a job lot I 
bought). One still works perfectly, one doesn't fire occasionally & 
the third fires only intermittently. From what I have read, a CLA 
(Clean, Lube & Adjust) service is necessary. Are there still techs who 
can do that? Apparently the grease on the many levers & pivots hardens 
with time, causing the problem. I tried leaving them in the sun which 
helped for a while but the problem recurred after a couple of hours.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: Mark C
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 3:41 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

Damn! I had an ME Super with the same problem that I tossed about a year
ago. I should have tried that.

On 6/2/2016 7:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
You are the 2nd or 3rd person that suggested that. So I just whacked 
it a few times for the 2nd or 3rd attempt. It worked!


Thanks Bob, and thanks to all who contributed suggestions!

stan


On Jun 2, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote:

Stan,
Give it a sharp spank or three.
I've cleared some hangups this way before on the ME Super.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stanley Halpin
<s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:
Good thought. But no help. I have worked the settings-dial back and 
forth a few times. The only position that feels different is L 
(Lock?). When in L position the shutter does not depress at all. In 
all other positions the shutter button moves but does nothing.



On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:23 AM, james <sup8p...@clubtelco.com> wrote:

Did you try setting to 125x position? isn't it supposed to be the 
only mechanical speed? or Bulb?



James


On 2/06/2016 2:09 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

If he doesn't, I do! LOL

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill 
<anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:

You want an LX and all the viewfinders?


On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:


I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to 
do a

few rolls for old-times sake...

stan


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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Alan C]

I have 3 ME Supers. (One bought new & the other two from a job lot I 
bought). One still works perfectly, one doesn't fire occasionally & the 
third fires only intermittently. From what I have read, a CLA (Clean, Lube & 
Adjust) service is necessary. Are there still techs who can do that? 
Apparently the grease on the many levers & pivots hardens with time, causing 
the problem. I tried leaving them in the sun which helped for a while but 
the problem recurred after a couple of hours.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Mark C

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Subject: Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

Damn! I had an ME Super with the same problem that I tossed about a year
ago. I should have tried that.

On 6/2/2016 7:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
You are the 2nd or 3rd person that suggested that. So I just whacked it a 
few times for the 2nd or 3rd attempt. It worked!


Thanks Bob, and thanks to all who contributed suggestions!

stan


On Jun 2, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote:

Stan,
Give it a sharp spank or three.
I've cleared some hangups this way before on the ME Super.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stanley Halpin
<s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:
Good thought. But no help. I have worked the settings-dial back and 
forth a few times. The only position that feels different is L (Lock?). 
When in L position the shutter does not depress at all. In all other 
positions the shutter button moves but does nothing.



On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:23 AM, james <sup8p...@clubtelco.com> wrote:

Did you try setting to 125x position? isn't it supposed to be the only 
mechanical speed? or Bulb?



James


On 2/06/2016 2:09 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

If he doesn't, I do! LOL

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

You want an LX and all the viewfinders?


On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:


I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a
few rolls for old-times sake...

stan


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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Mark C]

Damn! I had an ME Super with the same problem that I tossed about a year 
ago. I should have tried that.


On 6/2/2016 7:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

You are the 2nd or 3rd person that suggested that. So I just whacked it a few 
times for the 2nd or 3rd attempt. It worked!

Thanks Bob, and thanks to all who contributed suggestions!

stan


On Jun 2, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote:

Stan,
Give it a sharp spank or three.
I've cleared some hangups this way before on the ME Super.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stanley Halpin
<s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:

Good thought. But no help. I have worked the settings-dial back and forth a few 
times. The only position that feels different is L (Lock?). When in L position 
the shutter does not depress at all. In all other positions the shutter button 
moves but does nothing.


On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:23 AM, james <sup8p...@clubtelco.com> wrote:

Did you try setting to 125x position? isn't it supposed to be the only 
mechanical speed? or Bulb?


James


On 2/06/2016 2:09 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

If he doesn't, I do! LOL

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:

You want an LX and all the viewfinders?


On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:


I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a
few rolls for old-times sake...

stan


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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Stanley Halpin]

You are the 2nd or 3rd person that suggested that. So I just whacked it a few 
times for the 2nd or 3rd attempt. It worked!

Thanks Bob, and thanks to all who contributed suggestions!

stan

> On Jun 2, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Stan,
> Give it a sharp spank or three.
> I've cleared some hangups this way before on the ME Super.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stanley Halpin
> <s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:
>> Good thought. But no help. I have worked the settings-dial back and forth a 
>> few times. The only position that feels different is L (Lock?). When in L 
>> position the shutter does not depress at all. In all other positions the 
>> shutter button moves but does nothing.
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:23 AM, james <sup8p...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did you try setting to 125x position? isn't it supposed to be the only 
>>> mechanical speed? or Bulb?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> James
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/06/2016 2:09 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>>> If he doesn't, I do! LOL
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> You want an LX and all the viewfinders?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
>>>>>> the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a
>>>>>> few rolls for old-times sake...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> stan
>>>>>> 
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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Bob Sullivan]

Stan,
Give it a sharp spank or three.
I've cleared some hangups this way before on the ME Super.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stanley Halpin
<s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:
> Good thought. But no help. I have worked the settings-dial back and forth a 
> few times. The only position that feels different is L (Lock?). When in L 
> position the shutter does not depress at all. In all other positions the 
> shutter button moves but does nothing.
>
>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:23 AM, james <sup8p...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>>
>> Did you try setting to 125x position? isn't it supposed to be the only 
>> mechanical speed? or Bulb?
>>
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> On 2/06/2016 2:09 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>> If he doesn't, I do! LOL
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You want an LX and all the viewfinders?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
>>>>> the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a
>>>>> few rolls for old-times sake...
>>>>>
>>>>> stan
>>>>>
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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Stanley Halpin]

Good thought. But no help. I have worked the settings-dial back and forth a few 
times. The only position that feels different is L (Lock?). When in L position 
the shutter does not depress at all. In all other positions the shutter button 
moves but does nothing.

> On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:23 AM, james  wrote:
> 
> Did you try setting to 125x position? isn't it supposed to be the only 
> mechanical speed? or Bulb?
> 
> 
> James
> 
> 
> On 2/06/2016 2:09 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>> If he doesn't, I do! LOL
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>> You want an LX and all the viewfinders?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
>>> 
 I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
 the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a
 few rolls for old-times sake...
 
 stan
 
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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[james]

Did you try setting to 125x position? isn't it supposed to be the only 
mechanical speed? or Bulb?



James


On 2/06/2016 2:09 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

If he doesn't, I do! LOL

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill  wrote:

You want an LX and all the viewfinders?


On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:


I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a
few rolls for old-times sake...

stan



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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Zos Xavius]

If he doesn't, I do! LOL

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Bill  wrote:
> You want an LX and all the viewfinders?
>
>
> On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
>
>>
>> I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
>> the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a
>> few rolls for old-times sake...
>>
>> stan
>>
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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[J.C. O'Connell]

If you want a good old working k film body, try a km, mx, or k1000, they 
are all mechanical and dont lockup as often.

jco

On 6/1/2016 11:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:


Sent from my iPad

On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:06 PM, mike wilson <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote:


On 02 June 2016 at 00:31 Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:



On 6/1/2016 2:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
So I bought an eBay ME Super. Looks great, has a fine PK-M 50/1.7.

My first Pentax was an ME Super with 50/1.7. But it was a while ago.

Does anybody remember what to do if the mirror & shutter are frozen in
firing position? I.e., mirror down, shutter and film advance not responding.

It came with no batteries, I installed fresh, made no difference. A casual
inspection shows no signs of corrosion in the battery compartment.

Suggestions?

stan

Spank it.
Seriously.
Hold it my the lens and smack it against the palm of your hand.
Failing that, send it back to the seller. I'm pretty sure I have one of
those sitting around. I think it's even a black one.

Wasn't that for when the mirror stuck _up_?  I seem to remember having this
problem with mine and it was because the film transport sprockets had somehow
become out of sync with the rest of the mechanism.  Turning them with a
thumbnail, until they locked, fixed it.

God ideas. Haven't worked. It seems to like being spanked. Just asks for more. And when I 
turn the film sprocket, it just free-wheels. I tried "rewinding" the 
thumbnail-on-sprocket trick, still no change. I am thinking it is an issue with the 
shutter release per se. The shutter release seems to be cocked and ready but there is no 
resistance when I depress the release.

I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with the lens, 
but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a few rolls for 
old-times sake...

stan




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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Bill]

You want an LX and all the viewfinders?

On 6/1/2016 9:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:



I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with
the lens, but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a
few rolls for old-times sake...

stan




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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Stan Halpin]

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:06 PM, mike wilson <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>> On 02 June 2016 at 00:31 Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/1/2016 2:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
>>> So I bought an eBay ME Super. Looks great, has a fine PK-M 50/1.7.
>>> 
>>> My first Pentax was an ME Super with 50/1.7. But it was a while ago.
>>> 
>>> Does anybody remember what to do if the mirror & shutter are frozen in
>>> firing position? I.e., mirror down, shutter and film advance not responding.
>>> 
>>> It came with no batteries, I installed fresh, made no difference. A casual
>>> inspection shows no signs of corrosion in the battery compartment.
>>> 
>>> Suggestions?
>>> 
>>> stan
>> 
>> Spank it.
>> Seriously.
>> Hold it my the lens and smack it against the palm of your hand.
>> Failing that, send it back to the seller. I'm pretty sure I have one of 
>> those sitting around. I think it's even a black one.
> 
> Wasn't that for when the mirror stuck _up_?  I seem to remember having this
> problem with mine and it was because the film transport sprockets had somehow
> become out of sync with the rest of the mechanism.  Turning them with a
> thumbnail, until they locked, fixed it.

God ideas. Haven't worked. It seems to like being spanked. Just asks for more. 
And when I turn the film sprocket, it just free-wheels. I tried "rewinding" the 
thumbnail-on-sprocket trick, still no change. I am thinking it is an issue with 
the shutter release per se. The shutter release seems to be cocked and ready 
but there is no resistance when I depress the release. 

I'll contact the seller - I got most of my money's worth just with the lens, 
but I was looking forward to a working film camera to do a few rolls for 
old-times sake...

stan

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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Bill]

On 6/1/2016 8:06 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 02 June 2016 at 00:31 Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:


On 6/1/2016 2:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

So I bought an eBay ME Super. Looks great, has a fine PK-M 50/1.7.

My first Pentax was an ME Super with 50/1.7. But it was a while ago.

Does anybody remember what to do if the mirror & shutter are frozen in
firing position? I.e., mirror down, shutter and film advance not responding.

It came with no batteries, I installed fresh, made no difference. A casual
inspection shows no signs of corrosion in the battery compartment.

Suggestions?

stan



Spank it.
Seriously.
Hold it my the lens and smack it against the palm of your hand.
Failing that, send it back to the seller. I'm pretty sure I have one of
those sitting around. I think it's even a black one.


Wasn't that for when the mirror stuck _up_?  I seem to remember having this
problem with mine and it was because the film transport sprockets had somehow
become out of sync with the rest of the mechanism.  Turning them with a
thumbnail, until they locked, fixed it.


I'd definitely try that first.


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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

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> On 02 June 2016 at 00:31 Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/1/2016 2:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
> > So I bought an eBay ME Super. Looks great, has a fine PK-M 50/1.7.
> >
> > My first Pentax was an ME Super with 50/1.7. But it was a while ago.
> >
> > Does anybody remember what to do if the mirror & shutter are frozen in
> > firing position? I.e., mirror down, shutter and film advance not responding.
> >
> > It came with no batteries, I installed fresh, made no difference. A casual
> > inspection shows no signs of corrosion in the battery compartment.
> >
> > Suggestions?
> >
> > stan
> >
> 
> Spank it.
> Seriously.
> Hold it my the lens and smack it against the palm of your hand.
> Failing that, send it back to the seller. I'm pretty sure I have one of 
> those sitting around. I think it's even a black one.

Wasn't that for when the mirror stuck _up_?  I seem to remember having this
problem with mine and it was because the film transport sprockets had somehow
become out of sync with the rest of the mechanism.  Turning them with a
thumbnail, until they locked, fixed it.

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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Paul Stenquist]

Paul via phone



Paul via phone
> On Jun 1, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Stanley Halpin <s...@stans-photography.info> 
> wrote:
> 
> So I bought an eBay ME Super. Looks great, has a fine PK-M 50/1.7.
> 
> My first Pentax was an ME Super with 50/1.7. But it was a while ago.
> 
> Does anybody remember what to do if the mirror & shutter are frozen in firing 
> position? I.e., mirror down, shutter and film advance not responding.

Turn it into a lamp.
> 
> It came with no batteries, I installed fresh, made no difference. A casual 
> inspection shows no signs of corrosion in the battery compartment.
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> stan
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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Zos Xavius]

No. They will dry fire. At least the ME will.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 8:11 PM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> did'nt the ME and SP need film in it.??
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Stanley Halpin
> <s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:
>> So I bought an eBay ME Super. Looks great, has a fine PK-M 50/1.7.
>>
>> My first Pentax was an ME Super with 50/1.7. But it was a while ago.
>>
>> Does anybody remember what to do if the mirror & shutter are frozen in 
>> firing position? I.e., mirror down, shutter and film advance not responding.
>>
>> It came with no batteries, I installed fresh, made no difference. A casual 
>> inspection shows no signs of corrosion in the battery compartment.
>>
>> Suggestions?
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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[David J Brooks]

did'nt the ME and SP need film in it.??

Dave

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Stanley Halpin
<s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:
> So I bought an eBay ME Super. Looks great, has a fine PK-M 50/1.7.
>
> My first Pentax was an ME Super with 50/1.7. But it was a while ago.
>
> Does anybody remember what to do if the mirror & shutter are frozen in firing 
> position? I.e., mirror down, shutter and film advance not responding.
>
> It came with no batteries, I installed fresh, made no difference. A casual 
> inspection shows no signs of corrosion in the battery compartment.
>
> Suggestions?
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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Bill]

On 6/1/2016 2:58 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

So I bought an eBay ME Super. Looks great, has a fine PK-M 50/1.7.

My first Pentax was an ME Super with 50/1.7. But it was a while ago.

Does anybody remember what to do if the mirror & shutter are frozen in firing 
position? I.e., mirror down, shutter and film advance not responding.

It came with no batteries, I installed fresh, made no difference. A casual 
inspection shows no signs of corrosion in the battery compartment.

Suggestions?

stan



Spank it.
Seriously.
Hold it my the lens and smack it against the palm of your hand.
Failing that, send it back to the seller. I'm pretty sure I have one of 
those sitting around. I think it's even a black one.


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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Darren Addy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJUeXlA2qjM

See also:
http://www.apug.org/forum/index.php?threads/pentax-me-super-with-frozen-shutter-fix.80346/
http://forums.popphoto.com/showthread.php?590783-Pentax-ME-Super-Shutter-Closed-Crank-Wont-Advance
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/8-pentax-film-slr-discussion/77178-help-pentax-me-supers-mirror-stuck-up.html


Frankly, if it was me I would return it and get a different one rather than
risk a repair. I've got an ME kit that is absolutely mint (everything in
box). Can't remember if it is a Super or not. I'll probably advertise it on
APUG.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Stanley Halpin <s...@stans-photography.info>
wrote:

> So I bought an eBay ME Super. Looks great, has a fine PK-M 50/1.7.
>
> My first Pentax was an ME Super with 50/1.7. But it was a while ago.
>
> Does anybody remember what to do if the mirror & shutter are frozen in
> firing position? I.e., mirror down, shutter and film advance not responding.
>
> It came with no batteries, I installed fresh, made no difference. A casual
> inspection shows no signs of corrosion in the battery compartment.
>
> Suggestions?
>
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Re: ME Super diagnosis needed

[Zos Xavius]

Did it advance all the way? Try advancing it till it stops if you haven't
already.
On Jun 1, 2016 4:59 PM, "Stanley Halpin" <s...@stans-photography.info>
wrote:

> So I bought an eBay ME Super. Looks great, has a fine PK-M 50/1.7.
>
> My first Pentax was an ME Super with 50/1.7. But it was a while ago.
>
> Does anybody remember what to do if the mirror & shutter are frozen in
> firing position? I.e., mirror down, shutter and film advance not responding.
>
> It came with no batteries, I installed fresh, made no difference. A casual
> inspection shows no signs of corrosion in the battery compartment.
>
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ME Super diagnosis needed

[Stanley Halpin]

So I bought an eBay ME Super. Looks great, has a fine PK-M 50/1.7.

My first Pentax was an ME Super with 50/1.7. But it was a while ago.

Does anybody remember what to do if the mirror & shutter are frozen in firing 
position? I.e., mirror down, shutter and film advance not responding.

It came with no batteries, I installed fresh, made no difference. A casual 
inspection shows no signs of corrosion in the battery compartment.

Suggestions?

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Re: FS: SMC 75-205 f4.5, ME Super body, A 50 2.0, M 50 1.4, GraLab 451, more

[P. J. Alling]

That's because, it's priceless.

On 1/8/2011 8:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Funny, but there were no prices anywhere in that for sale post.




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Re: FS: SMC 75-205 f4.5, ME Super body, A 50 2.0, M 50 1.4, GraLab 451, more

[Darren Addy]

Funny, but there were no prices anywhere in that for sale post.

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FS: SMC 75-205 f4.5, ME Super body, A 50 2.0, M 50 1.4, GraLab 451, more

[steve harley]

SMC 85-210/3.5: with original hood, close-up adapter and case; 
non-Pentax back  front caps; excellent optics, possibly a small amount 
of internal dust; barrel has very minor scuffs; metal hood has shallow 
scratches and scuffs on the inside, but outside is very clean; close-up 
attachment lens has a few light scratches and scuffs on the coating


original leather case, beat up on the outside, but clean and intact 
inside, including the secret compartment for the close-up lens


pictures of 85-210:

http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/3510446/1/lens%2085-210?h=bad093 













(pictures of other items below on request)


GraLab 451 timer/intervalometer: excellent darkroom timer but i guess 
this is used in laboratories too; very good slightly used condition; 
more info:


http://www.gralab.com/products/details.asp?ID=13


ME Super body: good cosmetic condition with some protective film added 
on the baseplate, minor scratches to paint, no deep scratches or dings; 
basic functions seem to work including metering, shutter proportional to 
time; have not run film though this body as it was a hitchhiker on a 
lens purchase



SMC M 50/1.4: excellent condition with Komoru leather pouch, Pentax caps


SMC A 50/2.0: very good condition with Pentax front cap, generic back cap


Sigma Mini-Wide 28/2.8 multi-coated: 1:4.5 macro, with original Sigma 
caps and case



Super Albinar Auto Tele Converter 2X for Pentax-K: works, optics clean; 
front cap, no back cap; leather case



Vivitar Automatic Tele Converter 3X-1: screw mount in good used 
condition with perfect glass; original caps and original leather case in 
very good condition



Vivitar AT-1 screwmount extension tube set: 12, 20, 36mm, back cap but 
no front cap; original leather case



Canon EF 20/2.8: perfect optics; moderate cosmetic wear; Hoya HMC 
filter, original caps and hood






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Re: Does focus screen ME-super or Program-A fit MX?

[Jos from Holland]

Thanks for you respons!
I will start canabalizing the ME-S and hope it will fit. :-)
Greetz Jos

P. J. Alling wrote:
 The MX has a user replaceable screen, like most Professional Pentax 
 SLR's the ME and Program A do not.  I think that you can remove the 
 screens through the mirror box, but I've never tried.  I believe the ME 
 and MX have similar sized screens, (the ME just doesn't have the 
 handling tab), so it might fit in the screen frame in the MX.  I haven't 
 a clue about the Program A.

 Jos from Holland wrote:
   
 Dear group,
 I have a broken ME super and a broken Program-A, bothh with good screen.
 And a good MX with damaged screen.
 Can I swap screens? do they have the same dimensions???

 Greetz, Jos

   
 


   

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Re: Does focus screen ME-super or Program-A fit MX?

[Thibouille]

I would expect it to fit without problem but you might wanna check the
exposure with the new screen.

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Does focus screen ME-super or Program-A fit MX?

[Jos from Holland]

Dear group,
I have a broken ME super and a broken Program-A, bothh with good screen.
And a good MX with damaged screen.
Can I swap screens? do they have the same dimensions???

Greetz, Jos

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Re: Does focus screen ME-super or Program-A fit MX?

[P. J. Alling]

The MX has a user replaceable screen, like most Professional Pentax 
SLR's the ME and Program A do not.  I think that you can remove the 
screens through the mirror box, but I've never tried.  I believe the ME 
and MX have similar sized screens, (the ME just doesn't have the 
handling tab), so it might fit in the screen frame in the MX.  I haven't 
a clue about the Program A.

Jos from Holland wrote:
 Dear group,
 I have a broken ME super and a broken Program-A, bothh with good screen.
 And a good MX with damaged screen.
 Can I swap screens? do they have the same dimensions???

 Greetz, Jos

   


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Re: ME Super seal kit needed

[Lucas Rijnders]

Op Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:52:26 +0100 schreef Polyhead  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Today while at the local goodwill, I scored a Pentax ME Super with a  
 Pentax-M 50mm f/1.7 lens for $30.  The seals and mirror cushon are shot,  
 does anyone know where i can get a seal kit for this camera?  I already  
 have an ME super (My christmas present to myself), so now I can have a  
 spare if I get the seals replaced on this dude.

I've got my kit, at this lists advice, from ebay. Good stuff with good  
instuctions. The vendor is called Jon Goodman, ebay name interslice.

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ME Super seal kit needed

[Polyhead]

Today while at the local goodwill, I scored a Pentax ME Super with a Pentax-M 
50mm f/1.7 lens for $30.  The seals and mirror cushon are shot, does anyone 
know where i can get a seal kit for this camera?  I already have an ME super 
(My christmas present to myself), so now I can have a spare if I get the seals 
replaced on this dude.

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Re: FS - Winder for ME-Super

[Thibouille]

Just to say that AFAIR it will also work on Super/Program-A and P50.

2006/9/15, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Great condition ... no problem with battery door, works perfectly, looks
 almost new.

 I just realized I no longer have any ME-S cameras so there's no need for
 the winder.

 $20.00 OBO plus shipping

 Please contact me off list - Thanks!


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FS - Winder for ME-Super

[Shel Belinkoff]

Great condition ... no problem with battery door, works perfectly, looks
almost new.

I just realized I no longer have any ME-S cameras so there's no need for
the winder.

$20.00 OBO plus shipping

Please contact me off list - Thanks!


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Re: ME-Super exposure compensation ring

[keith_w]

Juan Buhler wrote:
 I posted this last week, but it never made it to the list it seems.
 Let's try again...
 
 Question for the ME-Super experts here: I received the body I got on
 ebay, and it looks and sounds great. The only thing is, the exposure
 compensation ring is extremely hard to move. It was on x1/4, and with
 a lot of effort and a paper clip as leverage I could bring it back to
 x1.
 
 Am I missing something in the way it moves? The ASA setting works
 normally, lifting and rotating it is efortless. There are no signs of
 drops or anthing like that. I assume the exposure compensation just
 rotates, without me having to do anything else, right?
 
 Help appreciated.
 
 j
 
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I have one I just won arriving tomorrow (!) so I'll look for that anomaly.
It will be the first one I've ever even touched, so I'm a little excited...

However, I suspect, as someone said, it's just a little dry, needs a little 
lube, or something to blast the Krispy Kreme particles out from under the 
knob!  ;-)

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ME-Super exposure compensation ring

[Juan Buhler]

I posted this last week, but it never made it to the list it seems.
Let's try again...

Question for the ME-Super experts here: I received the body I got on
ebay, and it looks and sounds great. The only thing is, the exposure
compensation ring is extremely hard to move. It was on x1/4, and with
a lot of effort and a paper clip as leverage I could bring it back to
x1.

Am I missing something in the way it moves? The ASA setting works
normally, lifting and rotating it is efortless. There are no signs of
drops or anthing like that. I assume the exposure compensation just
rotates, without me having to do anything else, right?

Help appreciated.

j

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Re: ME-Super exposure compensation ring

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Juan,

Yep, it should move as you rotate it.  No lifting, buttons, anything
else to do.

Dave




Juan Buhler wrote:
 I posted this last week, but it never made it to the list it seems.
 Let's try again...
 
 Question for the ME-Super experts here: I received the body I got on
 ebay, and it looks and sounds great. The only thing is, the exposure
 compensation ring is extremely hard to move. It was on x1/4, and with
 a lot of effort and a paper clip as leverage I could bring it back to
 x1.
 
 Am I missing something in the way it moves? The ASA setting works
 normally, lifting and rotating it is efortless. There are no signs of
 drops or anthing like that. I assume the exposure compensation just
 rotates, without me having to do anything else, right?
 
 Help appreciated.
 
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Re: ME-Super exposure compensation ring

[Juan Buhler]

That's what I remembered from my old ME-Super. So it looks like this
one is just very hard to turn, I guess.

Thanks Dave.

j

On 9/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Juan,

 Yep, it should move as you rotate it.  No lifting, buttons, anything
 else to do.

 Dave




 Juan Buhler wrote:
  I posted this last week, but it never made it to the list it seems.
  Let's try again...
 
  Question for the ME-Super experts here: I received the body I got on
  ebay, and it looks and sounds great. The only thing is, the exposure
  compensation ring is extremely hard to move. It was on x1/4, and with
  a lot of effort and a paper clip as leverage I could bring it back to
  x1.
 
  Am I missing something in the way it moves? The ASA setting works
  normally, lifting and rotating it is efortless. There are no signs of
  drops or anthing like that. I assume the exposure compensation just
  rotates, without me having to do anything else, right?
 
  Help appreciated.
 
  j
 
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Re: ME-Super exposure compensation ring

[Mat Maessen]

On 9/7/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's what I remembered from my old ME-Super. So it looks like this
 one is just very hard to turn, I guess.

Might be worth removing the knob and cleaning under it. It's probably
coagulated oil/dirt/coffee/cola/etc. underneath the knob itself that's
making things stiff. Either that, or a lack of lubrication.

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Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu]

On 6/17/05, Tim sleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My oldest son, the one I mentioned in a post an hour ago, has bought himself
 a second hand ME-super in London. It seemed ok in the store, but it failed
 shortly after leaving the shop. We had to go home to Norway before the shop
 opened again. We tried to send a mail to the shop telling about the problem,
 but got no reply. I know, it was a stupid mistake to by a second hand camera
 abroad, but we did.
 [..]
 
 Tim
 Another Norwegian.

OT: I've saw today 2 ME Super, both appears to be in very good
condition. As my camera is still defective (sometimes the film
advances properly, but the shutter release does nothing :( - yes, the
shutter curtains are in the proper position so that's not the
problem), it would be difficult to resist and not spend 100+euro for
one of them (with an A 50mm f/1.7).
Or course, my camera will go to another repairmen - but the focussing
screen is compromised (a dirty corner - not very serious, but annoying
and impossible to clean). Btw: do you know if the ME focusing screen
is compatible? I may have found a cheap, defective ME.

Unfortunatelly, my quest for a tele failed. So, I won't be able to
do much with a 50mm at that airshow :(

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Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[Joaquim Carvalho]

Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote:


Btw: do you know if the ME focusing screen
is compatible? I may have found a cheap, defective ME.
 


Yes but on the ME it isn't user replaceable.

Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[Joaquim Carvalho]

Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote:


Btw: do you know if the ME focusing screen
is compatible? I may have found a cheap, defective ME.
 


Yes but on the ME or ME-Super it isn't user replaceable, you'd have to take the 
cameras apart.

DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tim_=D8sleby?=]

My oldest son, the one I mentioned in a post an hour ago, has bought himself
a second hand ME-super in London. It seemed ok in the store, but it failed
shortly after leaving the shop. We had to go home to Norway before the shop
opened again. We tried to send a mail to the shop telling about the problem,
but got no reply. I know, it was a stupid mistake to by a second hand camera
abroad, but we did. 

When winding the camera, nothing happens. The winder simply goes back to
neutral position, and the camera isn't prepared for shooting. Other times it
seems to work ok. After a few exposures, it tends to jam, with the mirror in
open position. Looking inside the house, from front, I see small spots of
rust on top near the screen, and something looking like a bug in a small
hole at the tap the screen rests at (in lower position). In shorts, the
house is full of dirt. My guess is that?s the course off the errors. I took
it to a well reputed shop here in Norway. They said I'd better let it be. A
repair might be expensive, more than the house was worth, they said. 

They are probably right. But this irritates me. I don?t like the idea of
just storing it like a museum object. I want the thing to work. Being a
rather handy person, I wonder about doing it myself. I know there are
resourceful people on this list, with loads of know how. 

I have noticed one funny thing. When winding with no lens attached it works
ok, most of the times trying. With a lens on, error is more frequent. 

So. What's the do and don't? How do I open the thing? And what do I do after
opening it? (Besides scratching myself in my forehead). Anybody who feels a
strong urge to help me, or to point me in the right direction?


Tim
Another Norwegian.

Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[Joaquim Carvalho]

On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 15:48, Tim sleby wrote:
 I have noticed one funny thing. When winding with no lens attached it works
 ok, most of the times trying. With a lens on, error is more frequent. 

With the lens on the camera mechanism has to push the lever to close the
diaphragm on the lens, the extra effort makes it fails more often. It
looks like a matter of cleaning and lubbing. Perhaps this camera got wet
inside.

 So. What's the do and don't? How do I open the thing? And what do I do after
 opening it? (Besides scratching myself in my forehead). Anybody who feels a
 strong urge to help me, or to point me in the right direction?

You'll need a lot of time and patience, don't start it if you don't have
this. It's probably best if you assume that it will take many hours over
several days or months. Download the repair manual from the web.

If you sell it on Ebay describe its condition accurately, I gess you'll
get around 25 Euros for the body, more if you sell it with the lens,
which lens does it have?

Whatever you do, never try to clean the focusing screen, don't ask me
how I know this.

Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[Don Sanderson]

Hi Tim, two things have happened to the ME-Super:
1.) The lubrication has turned to a sticky goo.
2.) The rubber mirror bumpers have turned to a sticky goo.

The camera needs a full CLA, not hard on an MES but certainly
not a repair by e-mail task.
The fact that it works better without a lens is normal for one in
this condition.
The lens loads up the aperture actuator lever when mounted,
this makes the problem more evident.
There are a couple of places in the US that will CLA the MES for
well under $100.00.
Perhaps if you look around you will find someone local that will do
the same.
IMHO the MES is worth the cost, it's a very nice, VERY quiet camera.

Don

-Original message-
From: Tim sleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:49:44 -0500
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

 My oldest son, the one I mentioned in a post an hour ago, has bought himself
 a second hand ME-super in London. It seemed ok in the store, but it failed
 shortly after leaving the shop. We had to go home to Norway before the shop
 opened again. We tried to send a mail to the shop telling about the problem,
 but got no reply. I know, it was a stupid mistake to by a second hand camera
 abroad, but we did. 
 
 When winding the camera, nothing happens. The winder simply goes back to
 neutral position, and the camera isn't prepared for shooting. Other times it
 seems to work ok. After a few exposures, it tends to jam, with the mirror in
 open position. Looking inside the house, from front, I see small spots of
 rust on top near the screen, and something looking like a bug in a small
 hole at the tap the screen rests at (in lower position). In shorts, the
 house is full of dirt. My guess is that?s the course off the errors. I took
 it to a well reputed shop here in Norway. They said I'd better let it be. A
 repair might be expensive, more than the house was worth, they said. 
 
 They are probably right. But this irritates me. I don?t like the idea of
 just storing it like a museum object. I want the thing to work. Being a
 rather handy person, I wonder about doing it myself. I know there are
 resourceful people on this list, with loads of know how. 
 
 I have noticed one funny thing. When winding with no lens attached it works
 ok, most of the times trying. With a lens on, error is more frequent. 
 
 So. What's the do and don't? How do I open the thing? And what do I do after
 opening it? (Besides scratching myself in my forehead). Anybody who feels a
 strong urge to help me, or to point me in the right direction?
 
 
 Tim
 Another Norwegian.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: Tim sleby

Subject: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?




When winding the camera, nothing happens. The winder simply goes back to
neutral position, and the camera isn't prepared for shooting.


I can't answer the mirror box problem, but if you take the bottom plate off, 
you may be able to tighten the screw on the bottom of the take up spool to 
fix the bad advance.
I've only had an MX open, and that's how they work, I suspect the ME us 
similar.


William Robb

Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[Jostein]

Tim,
You might want to make a call to Pentax Norway (Talk to Pl).
Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Tim sleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:48 PM
Subject: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?


My oldest son, the one I mentioned in a post an hour ago, has bought 
himself
a second hand ME-super in London. It seemed ok in the store, but it 
failed
shortly after leaving the shop. We had to go home to Norway before 
the shop
opened again. We tried to send a mail to the shop telling about the 
problem,
but got no reply. I know, it was a stupid mistake to by a second 
hand camera

abroad, but we did.

When winding the camera, nothing happens. The winder simply goes 
back to
neutral position, and the camera isn't prepared for shooting. Other 
times it
seems to work ok. After a few exposures, it tends to jam, with the 
mirror in
open position. Looking inside the house, from front, I see small 
spots of
rust on top near the screen, and something looking like a bug in a 
small
hole at the tap the screen rests at (in lower position). In shorts, 
the
house is full of dirt. My guess is that's the course off the errors. 
I took
it to a well reputed shop here in Norway. They said I'd better let 
it be. A

repair might be expensive, more than the house was worth, they said.

They are probably right. But this irritates me. I don't like the 
idea of
just storing it like a museum object. I want the thing to work. 
Being a
rather handy person, I wonder about doing it myself. I know there 
are

resourceful people on this list, with loads of know how.

I have noticed one funny thing. When winding with no lens attached 
it works
ok, most of the times trying. With a lens on, error is more 
frequent.


So. What's the do and don't? How do I open the thing? And what do I 
do after
opening it? (Besides scratching myself in my forehead). Anybody who 
feels a

strong urge to help me, or to point me in the right direction?


Tim
Another Norwegian.

RE: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tim_=D8sleby?=]

On Friday Joaquin Carvalho wrote:

Whatever you do, never try to clean the focusing screen, don't ask me
how I know this.


I don't need to ask how. I guess you learned the hard way. I've been told
that the focus screen dislikes cleaning substances.

-
When it comes to my question about DIY repair I have noticed one member
against, one member pro, and one how. Perhaps I'll put the question up for a
poll?

Shall the Tim the Raving Norwegian make an effort on repairing his sons
ME-super on his own?
1. Yes
2. No
3. Don?t know.
--
Silly jokes aside:
William Robb suggests I open the beast from the bottom. I have never been
inside one before. 
To me it looks like the shutter is the real problem. 
Don Sanderson suggests that sticky lubrication is the problem. My
practical/mechanical sense tells me to clean off the sticky stuff, and then
replace it. But where in the house is this lubrication? Is it still sensible
to go in from the bottom? And with what kind of lubrication do I replace the
sticky stuff with?

It may sound like madness trying to repair a camera by mail. But I am a
crazy person. I might have some fun trying to fix it. I might even be
successful in my attempt. Even though the odds of succeeding seems bad.

Tim
Another Norwegian

Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[Cornelius Nuzzlemuff III]

If you bought from a shop, it probably has a guarantee, why not send it back? 
If it doesn't, I can recommend Harrow Technical for good honest CLA's (it means 
sending it to the UK): 

Pentax House, South Hill Avenue, South Harrow, Middlesex, HA2 0DU UK 
+44 (0)2089384660 

Get the camera sorted properly and it will probably serve you for another 10+ 
years. To buy a camera of that quality new now would cost much more than you 
will have paid including a service. 

Good luck 
CN III

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RE: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tim_=D8sleby?=]

-Original Message-
From: Cornelius Nuzzlemuff III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17. juni 2005 21:37
To: Pentax Discuss
Subject: Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

If you bought from a shop, it probably has a guarantee, why not send it
back? 


I sent them a mail. A rather polite mail I believe. No reply. So I simply
assume that the shop keeper is a dishonest person, who would resell the
camera to another customer, without refunding me. I may be wrong, but this
is what my instincts tell me. In fact they did in the first place. I should
have listened to what my belly was telling me, but I didn't :-( 

My there is point in focusing on this. The main thing is to get the body
working, at an affordable prize. And I really want to say that I appreciate
the answers in this group. 

Tim 
Another Norwegian

RE: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[Don Sanderson]

I'll give you answer 4 ;-)
It's up to you.

To reach the lubrication/bumpers you must:
1. Remove top and bottom covers.
2. Remove the 2 front leatherettes.
3. Remove several screws holding the mirror
box and prism/viewfinder assemblies.
4. Unsolder all wires going to the winder contacts,
main switch, shutter assembly, hotshoe, aperture
resistor, film speed resistor and exposure comp.
switch. (VERY tiny soldering iron in the 5watt
range)
5. Carefully remove the mirror box/viewfinder/
prism assembly watching carefully for paper
thin spacers behind the lens mount and VF assy.
(The spacers ARE important.)
5. Dis-assemble several linkages to remove old
lube and mirror damper bumpers.
6. Re-Lube and replace bumpers if you can find
suitable rubber material. 2mm ID, 4mm OD silicone
rubber tubing will do.
7. Re-assemble, cleaning as you go. Be CERTAIN
that the shutter is COCKED before re-assembly.
8. (Optional) If you are like I was, repeat the
above steps 10-12 times to get it right.
(My first 3 MES became parts cameras, now I
can usually re-assemble correctly on the first
try.

Sound like fun?
It IS but I would suggest having 3 or 4 victims
to practice on! ;-)
I've done about 30 of them now, takes 1-3 hours,
depending on initial condition.
It's the kind of thing I do to relax. ;-)

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim sleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 2:34 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?


 On Friday Joaquin Carvalho wrote:

 Whatever you do, never try to clean the focusing screen, don't ask me
 how I know this.
 

 I don't need to ask how. I guess you learned the hard way. I've been told
 that the focus screen dislikes cleaning substances.

 -
 When it comes to my question about DIY repair I have noticed one member
 against, one member pro, and one how. Perhaps I'll put the
 question up for a
 poll?

 Shall the Tim the Raving Norwegian make an effort on repairing his sons
 ME-super on his own?
 1. Yes
 2. No
 3. Don?t know.
 --
 Silly jokes aside:
 William Robb suggests I open the beast from the bottom. I have never been
 inside one before.
 To me it looks like the shutter is the real problem.
 Don Sanderson suggests that sticky lubrication is the problem. My
 practical/mechanical sense tells me to clean off the sticky
 stuff, and then
 replace it. But where in the house is this lubrication? Is it
 still sensible
 to go in from the bottom? And with what kind of lubrication do I
 replace the
 sticky stuff with?

 It may sound like madness trying to repair a camera by mail. But I am a
 crazy person. I might have some fun trying to fix it. I might even be
 successful in my attempt. Even though the odds of succeeding seems bad.

 Tim
 Another Norwegian

RE: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[Don Sanderson]

Keep in mind that when the MES is approaching time for CLA
it tends to get very touchy.
It may work fine when warm and not at all when cold.
Or the other way around.
I've had a couple I've tested thoroughly only to have them
fail completely a week later.
I now do full CLAs on all ME Supers.
Telling the shopkeeper that a camera tech. (Me ;-)) told
you that may help your argument.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim sleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 3:11 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?


 -Original Message-
 From: Cornelius Nuzzlemuff III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 17. juni 2005 21:37
 To: Pentax Discuss
 Subject: Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

 If you bought from a shop, it probably has a guarantee, why not send it
 back?
 

 I sent them a mail. A rather polite mail I believe. No reply. So I simply
 assume that the shop keeper is a dishonest person, who would resell the
 camera to another customer, without refunding me. I may be wrong, but this
 is what my instincts tell me. In fact they did in the first
 place. I should
 have listened to what my belly was telling me, but I didn't :-(

 My there is point in focusing on this. The main thing is to get the body
 working, at an affordable prize. And I really want to say that I
 appreciate
 the answers in this group.

 Tim
 Another Norwegian

RE: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tim_=D8sleby?=]

This sounds like picking the whole thing apart, it sounds complicated. Like
something you do by the fire when it's to cold to stay outside. Not a hit
and run repair. 

BTW. I've got another picture I'll like to show you. 
A young horse, in lovely lighting.
http://www.foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=180362
Comments please.

Tim
Another Norwegian.


-Original Message-
From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17. juni 2005 23:15
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

I'll give you answer 4 ;-)
It's up to you.

To reach the lubrication/bumpers you must:
1. Remove top and bottom covers.
2. Remove the 2 front leatherettes.
3. Remove several screws holding the mirror
box and prism/viewfinder assemblies.
4. Unsolder all wires going to the winder contacts,
main switch, shutter assembly, hotshoe, aperture
resistor, film speed resistor and exposure comp.
switch. (VERY tiny soldering iron in the 5watt
range)
5. Carefully remove the mirror box/viewfinder/
prism assembly watching carefully for paper
thin spacers behind the lens mount and VF assy.
(The spacers ARE important.)
5. Dis-assemble several linkages to remove old
lube and mirror damper bumpers.
6. Re-Lube and replace bumpers if you can find
suitable rubber material. 2mm ID, 4mm OD silicone
rubber tubing will do.
7. Re-assemble, cleaning as you go. Be CERTAIN
that the shutter is COCKED before re-assembly.
8. (Optional) If you are like I was, repeat the
above steps 10-12 times to get it right.
(My first 3 MES became parts cameras, now I
can usually re-assemble correctly on the first
try.

Sound like fun?
It IS but I would suggest having 3 or 4 victims
to practice on! ;-)
I've done about 30 of them now, takes 1-3 hours,
depending on initial condition.
It's the kind of thing I do to relax. ;-)

Don

Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[Graywolf]

Well Mark Roberts has the repair manuals on his website. 

http//www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm  

You will need both the ME and ME Super manuals. There is no reason why any reasonably mechanically competent person could not fix it.  


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---


Tim sleby wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Cornelius Nuzzlemuff III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17. juni 2005 21:37

To: Pentax Discuss
Subject: Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?



If you bought from a shop, it probably has a guarantee, why not send it
back? 




I sent them a mail. A rather polite mail I believe. No reply. So I simply
assume that the shop keeper is a dishonest person, who would resell the
camera to another customer, without refunding me. I may be wrong, but this
is what my instincts tell me. In fact they did in the first place. I should
have listened to what my belly was telling me, but I didn't :-( 


My there is point in focusing on this. The main thing is to get the body
working, at an affordable prize. And I really want to say that I appreciate
the answers in this group. 

Tim 
Another Norwegian







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Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[brooksdj]

 Well Mark Roberts has the repair 
manuals on his website. 
 
 http//www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm  
 
 You will need both the ME and ME Super manuals. There is no reason why
an y reasonably mechanically competent person could not fix it.  
 
 graywolf

Well i did show you my 10 thumbs, did i not.vbg

Dave

Re: DIY repair on a jamed ME-super?

[mike wilson]

Tim sleby wrote:



So. What's the do and don't? How do I open the thing? And what do I do after
opening it? (Besides scratching myself in my forehead). Anybody who feels a
strong urge to help me, or to point me in the right direction?


http://www.kyphoto.com/classics/pentaxmeramblings.html

DON'T try the self-timer whilst it is jammed..

mike

Ebay: PENTAX ME SUPER + OBJECTIF 50 for 63 Euros only / Ebay buying competition

[Joaquim Carvalho]

To all you Ebay scanners: has anyone made a better buy than this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7510623561

Pentax ME Super
+
Pentax SMC F 50mm 1.7 (it didn't say in the auction but could be seen in 
the picture)

+
Camera Case, actually a ricoh :(

In very good condition for 63 Euros

Re: Ebay: PENTAX ME SUPER + OBJECTIF 50 for 63 Euros only / Ebay buying competition

[Thibouille]

Good one :D
Got a KX in pristine shape with its SMC (K) 55mm 1.8 for 60 euros
shipping included. Nice too ;)

2005/6/16, Joaquim Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 To all you Ebay scanners: has anyone made a better buy than this?
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7510623561
 
 Pentax ME Super
 +
 Pentax SMC F 50mm 1.7 (it didn't say in the auction but could be seen in
 the picture)
 +
 Camera Case, actually a ricoh :(
 
 In very good condition for 63 Euros
 
 


-- 
--
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--
*ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX and KR-10x ...

Re: Ebay: PENTAX ME SUPER + OBJECTIF 50 for 63 Euros only / Ebay buying competition

[John Whittingham]

 To all you Ebay scanners: has anyone made a better buy than this?
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7510623561

Nice one!

Got a K 18mm f/3.5 for 100 (GBP)

John 

Re: Ebay: PENTAX ME SUPER + OBJECTIF 50 for 63 Euros only / Ebay buying competition

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Last night I got a pretty decent looking black KX with 135/2.8 sears for $45.
Last week an all-pieces-excellent K-1000, A100/2.8, and A28/2.8 for a bargain 
price that I won't disclose here.

Sincerely,

Collin 





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RE: Ebay: PENTAX ME SUPER + OBJECTIF 50 for 63 Euros only / Ebay buying competition

[Jens Bladt]

Tes, it's cheap! And it's a great camera.
However, during the last 9 months I have shot 14.000 digital images. If I
had done these on film, the film and film development (no prints included)
would have cost me money enough to buy two (2) Pentax *ist D bodies. In less
than a YEAR!
Analog photography is excellent in many ways. But, man is that expensive!
OK, so I shoot a lot (appr. 50 a day), especialy since I have gone digital.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 16. juni 2005 16:33
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Ebay: PENTAX ME SUPER + OBJECTIF 50 for 63 Euros only / Ebay
buying competition


Last night I got a pretty decent looking black KX with 135/2.8 sears for
$45.
Last week an all-pieces-excellent K-1000, A100/2.8, and A28/2.8 for a
bargain price that I won't disclose here.

Sincerely,

Collin





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Re: Weak Batteries - ME Super

[Mat Maessen]

I've used lithium batteries in my ME super, and I've had no troubles
at all. Meter is still spot on, and the lights blink when the battery
is low. Seems to last a bit less time than a pair of silver oxide
batteries. but they also cost me half as much.

-Mat

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:22:28 -0700, Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks 4 all the help  hadn't used the lithium in the ME S before and
 have gone back to the silver oxide.  Methinks that was the most logical
 cause of the problem
 
 Shel
 

Weak Batteries - ME Super

[Shel Belinkoff]

When I last used my ME S I noticed that, while the shutter speed indicator
lights in the viewfinder were working, they didn't match my judgement of
what the correct exposure should be.  Speeds were off by a couple - three
stops at times, other times they seemed closer to accurate.

Today I ran a quick test, and compared the exposure readings to that of
another camera with a similar metering pattern, and determined that the ME
S readings were, indeed, off in some circumstances.  I then installed some
fresh batteries and compared the readings again.  With the new batteries
the readings were accurate.

I've never encountered this exact problem before.  Will a battery that is
low on power, in this case a lithium cell, cause such problems, or might
there be another factor involved?  

If such is the case, here's another argument against relying too much on
the built in meter of the camera and electronics.  Had I not been paying
attention to the shutter speed readout, as one may easily do when shooting
aperture priority with an automatic camera, and not trusted my own
experience as to what the proper exposure should have been, there'd be a
lot of poorly exposed frames on that roll of film.

Shel 

RE: Weak Batteries - ME Super

[Don Sanderson]

Hi Shel, I've never seen an ME S do that, usually low batteries cause the
indicator LEDs to flash rapidly as a warning.
However.. I've never run one on Lithium??? batteries, always use Silver
Cells.
I suspect maybe the voltage/current curve may be different
OR.
The most common reason I've seen for erratic metering in the ME and other M
bodies is the ASA/EC dial resistor being dirty.
Seen this 20-30 times, it's something I always check on used cameras before
selling them.
Cleaning is easy, just work the dial thru its full range abot 50 times and
try it again.
To test this hold the camera to your eye and watch the LEDs as you gently
wiggle the EC dial.
They should NOT flicker, if they do the resistor needs cleaned!

Don


 -Original Message-
 From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Weak Batteries - ME Super


 When I last used my ME S I noticed that, while the shutter speed indicator
 lights in the viewfinder were working, they didn't match my judgement of
 what the correct exposure should be.  Speeds were off by a couple - three
 stops at times, other times they seemed closer to accurate.

 Today I ran a quick test, and compared the exposure readings to that of
 another camera with a similar metering pattern, and determined that the ME
 S readings were, indeed, off in some circumstances.  I then installed some
 fresh batteries and compared the readings again.  With the new batteries
 the readings were accurate.

 I've never encountered this exact problem before.  Will a battery that is
 low on power, in this case a lithium cell, cause such problems, or might
 there be another factor involved?

 If such is the case, here's another argument against relying too much on
 the built in meter of the camera and electronics.  Had I not been paying
 attention to the shutter speed readout, as one may easily do when shooting
 aperture priority with an automatic camera, and not trusted my own
 experience as to what the proper exposure should have been, there'd be a
 lot of poorly exposed frames on that roll of film.

 Shel

Re: Weak Batteries - ME Super

[Steve Jolly]

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I've never encountered this exact problem before.  Will a battery that is
low on power, in this case a lithium cell, cause [metering] problems, or might
there be another factor involved?  
The ME Super is supposed to have a low battery indicator (the LED 
indicating the metered shutter speed flashes) that kicks in well before 
the low battery causes inaccuracies.  Which it almost certainly will, 
eventually.

S

Re: Weak Batteries - ME Super

[Peter J. Alling]

The ME Super was designed to use Silver Oxide cells which die quite 
rapidly, the discharge curve on
lithium batteries is much less abrupt.  This could be the cause of your 
observed behavior.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
When I last used my ME S I noticed that, while the shutter speed indicator
lights in the viewfinder were working, they didn't match my judgement of
what the correct exposure should be.  Speeds were off by a couple - three
stops at times, other times they seemed closer to accurate.
Today I ran a quick test, and compared the exposure readings to that of
another camera with a similar metering pattern, and determined that the ME
S readings were, indeed, off in some circumstances.  I then installed some
fresh batteries and compared the readings again.  With the new batteries
the readings were accurate.
I've never encountered this exact problem before.  Will a battery that is
low on power, in this case a lithium cell, cause such problems, or might
there be another factor involved?  

If such is the case, here's another argument against relying too much on
the built in meter of the camera and electronics.  Had I not been paying
attention to the shutter speed readout, as one may easily do when shooting
aperture priority with an automatic camera, and not trusted my own
experience as to what the proper exposure should have been, there'd be a
lot of poorly exposed frames on that roll of film.
Shel 


 


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and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: Weak Batteries - ME Super

[Rob Studdert]

On 27 Oct 2004 at 19:56, Peter J. Alling wrote:

 The ME Super was designed to use Silver Oxide cells which die quite 
 rapidly, the discharge curve on
 lithium batteries is much less abrupt.  This could be the cause of your 
 observed behavior.

Lithium-manganese dioxide cells (3v non-rechargable) have a really steep 
discharge curve at EOL. I use them in my LX and Leicas and once the LX meter 
starts flashing I know I'll only get a minute or two more life. I always keep 
spares in my photo-pack, the advantage being that you know they'll still be OK 
for 10 years or so.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Weak Batteries - ME Super

[Alan Chan]

For Energizer, there are 357  EPX76 (both silver oxide). Based on the 
technical data provided by Energizer, EPX76 seems to be more sutable for 
cameras.

Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
The ME Super was designed to use Silver Oxide cells which die quite 
rapidly, the discharge curve on
lithium batteries is much less abrupt.  This could be the cause of your 
observed behavior.

Re: Weak Batteries - ME Super

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Chan
Subject: Re: Weak Batteries - ME Super


For Energizer, there are 357  EPX76 (both silver oxide). Based on 
the technical data provided by Energizer, EPX76 seems to be more 
sutable for cameras.
357 is classed as a watch battery.
William Robb 

Weak Batteries - ME Super

[edwin]

From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When I last used my ME S I noticed that, while the shutter speed 
indicator
lights in the viewfinder were working, they didn't match my judgement of
what the correct exposure should be.  Speeds were off by a couple - three
stops at times, other times they seemed closer to accurate.

I've never encountered this exact problem before.  Will a battery that is
low on power, in this case a lithium cell, cause such problems, or might
there be another factor involved?  

EVERY ME SUPER I HAVE OWNED (5) has done this to me.  I believe the 
problem is either corrosion/filth in the film speed dial, corrosion/filth 
in the meter cell area, or corrosion of the meter cells.  I'm assuming it 
was recommending underexposure of about three stops?  (mine did)
Try wiggling the film speed setting and see if that gives a temporary 
reprieve.  

I believe a simple cleaning of the affected part (not even a full CLA) 
will fix the problem.  I had most of mine done before I gave up on them.

 If such is the 
case, here's another argument against relying too much on
the built in meter of the camera and electronics.  Had I not been paying
attention to the shutter speed readout, as one may easily do when 
shooting
aperture priority with an automatic camera, and not trusted my own 
experience as to what the proper exposure should have been, there'd be a
lot of poorly exposed frames on that roll of film.

Amen to that.  Knowing light well enought to suspect that your meter is 
misleading you is a critical skill.  I spent a lot of time in college 
eyeballing light and then taking a meter reading to check myself, so that 
I can now eyeball most situations to within a stop.  I also shoot on 
manual all the time now, because I've got a much better idea what I'm 
looking at than my camera does.

DJE

RE: Weak Batteries - ME Super

[Shel Belinkoff]

Thanks 4 all the help  hadn't used the lithium in the ME S before and
have gone back to the silver oxide.  Methinks that was the most logical
cause of the problem

Shel 

ME Super - almost enabled

[Sarbu Alexandru]

Hi, 
I've told you few days ago about a ME Super with a
locked mirror (and thanks for your answers!). Well...
now it's mine!
Of course, it doesn't work... so I can't use it right
now. The mirror unlocked (maybe because I've put new
batteries? :) ), however the foam... wait a minute...
in fact, there is no foam inside (only a sticky
trace).
Do I risk to damage the camera if I'm using it without
foam?
Right now it has another problem, I can wound the
lever just fine, but the camera won't release every
time. I understand something is bent inside... well,
the perfect reason to take a look :evil grin:
At least the meter seems to work.
Btw: in the same store I saw another ME Super. That
one worked, but it looked well used. It has a motor
drive (Sunpack iirc) and a lens but I didn't liked how
it worked.
Now, the questions:
- should I attempt to repair the camera myself? I've
talked with a repairman, however I don't know if I can
trust him... he didn't know this camera, probabilly he
mainly repair Zenits or Practicas. And I can't see
what's inside :)
- if yes... should I replace the foams? (can anybody
send me some, in this case? I'm almost sure I can't
find this kind of stuff here...) Someone told me it's
not that easy...
- should I attempt to lube anything? 
Of course, I have the repair manual (not that I
understand it...lol...) from mr. Roberts site (10x!).

Alex Sarbu (who really wants to take pictures with his
*new* camera )



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Re: ME Super - almost enabled

[Graywolf]

In desperation you can cut tiny strips from a mouse pad to replace the 
mirror bumper. Mark Roberts has the service manual on his website.

http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm
You need the ME manual and the ME Super manual as the ME Super manual is 
a suppliment to the ME Manual. No reason you can not work on it yourself 
if you are a bit handy with things mechanical and have the basic tools.

--
Sarbu Alexandru wrote:
Hi, 
I've told you few days ago about a ME Super with a
locked mirror (and thanks for your answers!). Well...
now it's mine!
Of course, it doesn't work... so I can't use it right
now. The mirror unlocked (maybe because I've put new
batteries? :) ), however the foam... wait a minute...
in fact, there is no foam inside (only a sticky
trace).
Do I risk to damage the camera if I'm using it without
foam?
Right now it has another problem, I can wound the
lever just fine, but the camera won't release every
time. I understand something is bent inside... well,
the perfect reason to take a look :evil grin:
At least the meter seems to work.
Btw: in the same store I saw another ME Super. That
one worked, but it looked well used. It has a motor
drive (Sunpack iirc) and a lens but I didn't liked how
it worked.
Now, the questions:
- should I attempt to repair the camera myself? I've
talked with a repairman, however I don't know if I can
trust him... he didn't know this camera, probabilly he
mainly repair Zenits or Practicas. And I can't see
what's inside :)
- if yes... should I replace the foams? (can anybody
send me some, in this case? I'm almost sure I can't
find this kind of stuff here...) Someone told me it's
not that easy...
- should I attempt to lube anything? 
Of course, I have the repair manual (not that I
understand it...lol...) from mr. Roberts site (10x!).

Alex Sarbu (who really wants to take pictures with his
*new* camera )

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Re: ME Super - almost enabled

[Andrew Bingham]

I've done foam in two cameras so far - if you check eBay, the seller
'interslice' sells large and small kits for $6.00 or $9.99, shipped
anywhere in the US. He is an extremely helpful guy and even sent me
some pictures of a Pentax that he had worked on in the past.  I did a
Canonet GIII QL-17 with his foam and I'm in the process of doing an
MX.

I wouldn't use the camera without the foam because if that sticky gunk
gets on the mirror, you'll probably never get it off.


On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:23:27 -0400, Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In desperation you can cut tiny strips from a mouse pad to replace the
 mirror bumper. Mark Roberts has the service manual on his website.
 
 http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm
 
 You need the ME manual and the ME Super manual as the ME Super manual is
 a suppliment to the ME Manual. No reason you can not work on it yourself
 if you are a bit handy with things mechanical and have the basic tools.
 
 --
 
 
 
 Sarbu Alexandru wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I've told you few days ago about a ME Super with a
  locked mirror (and thanks for your answers!). Well...
  now it's mine!
  Of course, it doesn't work... so I can't use it right
  now. The mirror unlocked (maybe because I've put new
  batteries? :) ), however the foam... wait a minute...
  in fact, there is no foam inside (only a sticky
  trace).
  Do I risk to damage the camera if I'm using it without
  foam?
  Right now it has another problem, I can wound the
  lever just fine, but the camera won't release every
  time. I understand something is bent inside... well,
  the perfect reason to take a look :evil grin:
  At least the meter seems to work.
  Btw: in the same store I saw another ME Super. That
  one worked, but it looked well used. It has a motor
  drive (Sunpack iirc) and a lens but I didn't liked how
  it worked.
  Now, the questions:
  - should I attempt to repair the camera myself? I've
  talked with a repairman, however I don't know if I can
  trust him... he didn't know this camera, probabilly he
  mainly repair Zenits or Practicas. And I can't see
  what's inside :)
  - if yes... should I replace the foams? (can anybody
  send me some, in this case? I'm almost sure I can't
  find this kind of stuff here...) Someone told me it's
  not that easy...
  - should I attempt to lube anything?
  Of course, I have the repair manual (not that I
  understand it...lol...) from mr. Roberts site (10x!).
 
  Alex Sarbu (who really wants to take pictures with his
  *new* camera )
 
 
 
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ME Super with sticky mirror

[Sarbu Alexandru]

Hi!

I saw today, in a sh camera store, this beautifull ME
Super... unfortunatelly it has a little problem:
after the shutter fires, the mirror won't come down
(not even after a *very* gentle touch). Also the
mirror foam looks quite bad, I think it should be
changed. Otherwise, the camera seems to be in good
condition... and I really like it.
What do you think? It would be difficult/expensive to
repair? Should I stay away, or buy it (it costs about
1/3 compared to a working camera) and try to repair
(probabilly I'll have to send it to someone, I don't
have the tools required).
I won't be that sad if I won't be able to use it, but
I'd really like to.

Thanks,

Alex Sarbu



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Re: ME Super with sticky mirror

[Steve Jolly]

It probably just needs a CLA - if you can find someone to do that for 
you, I'd go for it.

S
Sarbu Alexandru wrote:
Hi!
I saw today, in a sh camera store, this beautifull ME
Super... unfortunatelly it has a little problem:
after the shutter fires, the mirror won't come down
(not even after a *very* gentle touch). Also the
mirror foam looks quite bad, I think it should be
changed. Otherwise, the camera seems to be in good
condition... and I really like it.
What do you think? It would be difficult/expensive to
repair? Should I stay away, or buy it (it costs about
1/3 compared to a working camera) and try to repair
(probabilly I'll have to send it to someone, I don't
have the tools required).
I won't be that sad if I won't be able to use it, but
I'd really like to.
Thanks,
Alex Sarbu

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RE: ME Super with sticky mirror

[Don Sanderson]

It's going to require a CLA (Clean, Lube, Adjust) to work properly.
Almost ANY ME Super you buy today is going to need this done.
So if you have a place that will CLA one at a fair price (Under $100.00 US)
you might as well start with as cheap a one as possible.
The sticky mirror problem is caused by the rubber bumpers and other rubber
parts inside turning to tar like goo due to age and exposure to the
environment.
Every once in a while you can find one that has been stored carefully enough
that it will work OK, but if you plan on using it as an everyday camera a
CLA is still a very good idea.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Sarbu Alexandru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 9:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ME Super with sticky mirror


 Hi!

 I saw today, in a sh camera store, this beautifull ME
 Super... unfortunatelly it has a little problem:
 after the shutter fires, the mirror won't come down
 (not even after a *very* gentle touch). Also the
 mirror foam looks quite bad, I think it should be
 changed. Otherwise, the camera seems to be in good
 condition... and I really like it.
 What do you think? It would be difficult/expensive to
 repair? Should I stay away, or buy it (it costs about
 1/3 compared to a working camera) and try to repair
 (probabilly I'll have to send it to someone, I don't
 have the tools required).
 I won't be that sad if I won't be able to use it, but
 I'd really like to.

 Thanks,

 Alex Sarbu



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RE: AF160 Flash with ME Super

[Steve Jolly]

If you're a careful kind of person, it's not too hard.  It's also a pretty 
safe procedure, in that as long as you don't break something by applying 
too much force, the camera will still work properly when you put it 
together again.  Read through the Pentax ME service manual (on Mark 
Roberts' website, amongst other places).  There's also an excellent 
tutorial on the web somewhere.  No links I'm afraid - I don't have web 
access at the moment.  If you get stuck, I can probably help.

Oh, and a tip - the winder cap has a left-hand thread :-)
S
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Gaurav Aggarwal wrote:
Thanks! Any guide on how to get the lid off? Is it straightforward for
a first-timer? I am willing to give it a shot if someone says that
it isn't too difficult and doesn't require a whole lot of tools
and precision.
Gaurav
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Steve Jolly
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 6:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AF160 Flash with ME Super
Yeah, your ME super is faulty.  The hotshoe is connected to the camera's
electronics by sprung contacts underneath, which may have oxidised over
time or become gunged up with migrated lubricant or something.  If you're
not scared of taking the lid off, do just that and give the contacts a
good cleaning.
S
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Gaurav Aggarwal wrote:
Can I use a AF160 Flash with ME Super? I tried to but the flash
doesn't fire. I do not have manuals for either. The flash test fires.
I used a small length of wire to manually connect the centre of the
flash hotshoe with the side pin of the hotshoe. The flash fired. I
guess this is what the camera does when the shutter is clicked.
I put a multimeter probe on side and centre pin of ME Super hotshoe
and clicked. No connectivity. Is my ME Super broken? What is the
second off-centre pin in the ME super hotshoe for?
Should I try to get a cable and try to connect that? I tried the 125
setting on the dial of the ME super but that didn't help either. Is
there some other setting that I have to do?
Thanks for any pointers.
Gaurav

Re: AF160 Flash with ME Super

[Mark Roberts]

Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks! Any guide on how to get the lid off? 

First, download the service manual here:
http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm

Is it straightforward for a first-timer? 

Taking the lid off *is* straightforward. Putting it back on is
trickier...

I am willing to give it a shot if someone says that
it isn't too difficult and doesn't require a whole lot of tools 
and precision.

You can get by without special tools if you have a really good set of
needle-nose pliers. Also; remember than the cap over the film winder
(and the nut underneath it) are reverse-threaded. You turn them
clockwise to UNscrew them.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: AF160 Flash with ME Super

[John Whittingham]

The following link is well worth looking at:

http://www.kyphoto.com/classics/pentaxmeramblings.html

John

John Whittingham

Technician

-- Original Message ---
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 06:47:32 -0400
Subject: Re: AF160 Flash with ME Super

 Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thanks! Any guide on how to get the lid off?
 
 First, download the service manual here:
 http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm
 
 Is it straightforward for a first-timer?
 
 Taking the lid off *is* straightforward. Putting it back on is
 trickier...
 
 I am willing to give it a shot if someone says that
 it isn't too difficult and doesn't require a whole lot of tools 
 and precision.
 
 You can get by without special tools if you have a really good set of
 needle-nose pliers. Also; remember than the cap over the film winder
 (and the nut underneath it) are reverse-threaded. You turn them
 clockwise to UNscrew them.
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
--- End of Original Message ---

Re: AF160 Flash with ME Super

[Steve Jolly]

Yeah, your ME super is faulty.  The hotshoe is connected to the camera's 
electronics by sprung contacts underneath, which may have oxidised over 
time or become gunged up with migrated lubricant or something.  If you're 
not scared of taking the lid off, do just that and give the contacts a 
good cleaning.

S
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Gaurav Aggarwal wrote:
Can I use a AF160 Flash with ME Super? I tried to but the flash doesn't
fire. I do not have manuals for either. The flash test fires. I used a
small length of wire to manually connect the centre of the flash hotshoe
with the side pin of the hotshoe. The flash fired. I guess this is what
the camera does when the shutter is clicked.
I put a multimeter probe on side and centre pin of ME Super hotshoe
and clicked. No connectivity. Is my ME Super broken? What is the second
off-centre pin in the ME super hotshoe for?
Should I try to get a cable and try to connect that? I tried the 125
setting on the dial of the ME super but that didn't help either. Is
there some other setting that I have to do?
Thanks for any pointers.
Gaurav
There are two types of death, one due to electricution by conductive
teabag through a leaky chocolate biscuit wrapper, called dafticide,
and then there is everything else, antidafticide.
  -- Atanu Dey's Weblog

AF160 Flash with ME Super

[Gaurav Aggarwal]

Can I use a AF160 Flash with ME Super? I tried to but the flash doesn't
fire. I do not have manuals for either. The flash test fires. I used a
small length of wire to manually connect the centre of the flash hotshoe
with the side pin of the hotshoe. The flash fired. I guess this is what
the camera does when the shutter is clicked.

I put a multimeter probe on side and centre pin of ME Super hotshoe
and clicked. No connectivity. Is my ME Super broken? What is the second
off-centre pin in the ME super hotshoe for? 

Should I try to get a cable and try to connect that? I tried the 125
setting on the dial of the ME super but that didn't help either. Is
there some other setting that I have to do?

Thanks for any pointers.
Gaurav


There are two types of death, one due to electricution by conductive 
teabag through a leaky chocolate biscuit wrapper, called dafticide, 
and then there is everything else, antidafticide.
   -- Atanu Dey's Weblog

re: AF160 Flash with ME Super

[Jens Bladt]

Your ME Super is probably faulty. It should fire any flash with a hot-shoe
connection. Does the falsh shoe work with other flashes?
The Manual for the AF160 as well as ME Super can be found here:
http://www.pentax.com/docstore/index.cfm?show=6
All the best

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Gaurav Aggarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 18. juni 2004 06:28
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: AF160 Flash with ME Super


Can I use a AF160 Flash with ME Super? I tried to but the flash doesn't
fire. I do not have manuals for either. The flash test fires. I used a
small length of wire to manually connect the centre of the flash hotshoe
with the side pin of the hotshoe. The flash fired. I guess this is what
the camera does when the shutter is clicked.

I put a multimeter probe on side and centre pin of ME Super hotshoe
and clicked. No connectivity. Is my ME Super broken? What is the second
off-centre pin in the ME super hotshoe for?

Should I try to get a cable and try to connect that? I tried the 125
setting on the dial of the ME super but that didn't help either. Is
there some other setting that I have to do?

Thanks for any pointers.
Gaurav


There are two types of death, one due to electricution by conductive
teabag through a leaky chocolate biscuit wrapper, called dafticide,
and then there is everything else, antidafticide.
   -- Atanu Dey's Weblog

Inside an ME Super

[Steve Jolly]

While repairing an ME Super for a friend the other month, I took a 
couple of photos of it partially disassembled.  I've finally got them 
scanned in, and here they are:

http://www.elvum.net/gallery/misc/mes_dis1
http://www.elvum.net/gallery/misc/mes_dis2
(click through for 1600dpi versions)
I was truly impressed by how much Pentax managed to squeeze inside that 
camera, and less impressed by how hard it was to repair as a 
consequence... :-)

S

AW: AW: AW: Help needed, thanks ! [Me Super]

[Markus Maurer]

Hi Steve
thanks for your answer, I will try that.
I have to first get such a small screwdriver.
I will report about my success or failure :-)
happy weekend
Markus

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Markus Maurer wrote:
 I have had another problem with two pentax me super bodies which did not
 release the shutter
 anymore, one not at all and the second one only once or every second time
 after advancing the film.

That's another extremely common problem and is usually pretty easy to 
fix - one of the levers under the bottom plate can get bent and stop the 
shutter from cocking; if that's the case then it's fairly simple to open 
up the bottom of the camera and bend it back.

Re: AW: Help needed, thanks ! [Me Super]

[danilo]

You should change the black stuff that absorb the mirror flipping movement 
(realy sorry about english, but it's not my main language)
With time it became to tear apart and it become sticky.

I hope I am right,
And that it makes any sense.
Ciao
Danilo


Alle 00:10, venerd 16 aprile 2004, Ohrbit ha scritto:
 Hi Cyril
 I have the same problem with a Super A and I am very interested in a
 solution...
 greeting from Switzerland
 Markus Maurer

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 Von: Cyril MARION [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. April 2004 18:04
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff: Help needed, thanks ! [Me Super]


 Hello all,

 I'd like your help : my Me Super blocks.

 It happens while taking pictures : after a shot, the mirror does not get
 back in place. When I take off the lens to see where it blocks, the curtain
 is visible (not film) and the mirror is still in its upper position. Also,
 when I pull down the small lever located inside on the left, the mirror
 gets down as expected, but as soon as I release the lever it comes up
 again.

 From there, I've tested a quantity of tricks, but nothing works : light
 shocks on the body, use of the timer, turning the camera off and on again,
 taking the batteries out and in again, 125x sync, B position...

 I just found one procedure which unblocks the mirror : with a winder, if
 the lever is pulled down, as soon as it comes in its lower position, the
 winder switches (twice) and the camera gets unblocked. If the lens is not
 put on again, the unit works perfectly with as many shot as I want. But as
 soon as a lens is re-placed on the body, the camera blocks again. I've
 tried many types of lenses : M, A... it does not change anything.

 I've dismounted the lower plate and after some observation, nothing seems
 broken. Everything looks in good shape (even nearly new...)

 Does someone have an idea ? It would be nice as I like this camera very
 much

 : it is not very much used (outside shape looks quite new) and it belonged

 to someone close to me.

 Thanks in advance !

 Cheers,

 Cyril.

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Re: Help needed, thanks ! [Me Super]

[Cyril MARION]

Thank you all for your answers !

OK, I think yes, its time for a good CLA on my Me Super ! I'm brave, but not
too much, so I will not completely knock down the camera myself. I'm totally
amazed by the quality of the website Steve has indicated to me ! What a
performance ! If some day I decide to dismount my camera, I will follow the
instructions up to the end, and I am sure to get there, as the explanations
seem to be at an excellent level.

Thank you again for your answers, long life to PDML !

Cheers,
Cyril

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Re: AW: AW: Help needed, thanks ! [Me Super]

[Steve Jolly]

Markus Maurer wrote:
I have had another problem with two pentax me super bodies which did not
release the shutter
anymore, one not at all and the second one only once or every second time
after advancing the film.
That's another extremely common problem and is usually pretty easy to 
fix - one of the levers under the bottom plate can get bent and stop the 
shutter from cocking; if that's the case then it's fairly simple to open 
up the bottom of the camera and bend it back.

S

Help needed, thanks ! [Me Super]

[Cyril MARION]

Hello all,

I'd like your help : my Me Super blocks.

It happens while taking pictures : after a shot, the mirror does not get
back in place. When I take off the lens to see where it blocks, the curtain
is visible (not film) and the mirror is still in its upper position. Also,
when I pull down the small lever located inside on the left, the mirror gets
down as expected, but as soon as I release the lever it comes up again.

From there, I've tested a quantity of tricks, but nothing works : light
shocks on the body, use of the timer, turning the camera off and on again,
taking the batteries out and in again, 125x sync, B position...

I just found one procedure which unblocks the mirror : with a winder, if the
lever is pulled down, as soon as it comes in its lower position, the winder
switches (twice) and the camera gets unblocked. If the lens is not put on
again, the unit works perfectly with as many shot as I want. But as soon as
a lens is re-placed on the body, the camera blocks again. I've tried many
types of lenses : M, A... it does not change anything.

I've dismounted the lower plate and after some observation, nothing seems
broken. Everything looks in good shape (even nearly new...)

Does someone have an idea ? It would be nice as I like this camera very much
: it is not very much used (outside shape looks quite new) and it belonged
to someone close to me.

Thanks in advance !

Cheers,

Cyril.

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Re: Help needed, thanks ! [Me Super]

[Steve Jolly]

Hi Cyril,

This is one of the most common failure modes of the ME Super, and it 
means that it's time for a CLA, either of the mirror mechanism or most 
likely the shutter assembly.  Access to either of these requires a total 
disassembly of the camera, so doing it yourself would be a fairly major 
undertaking - if you're brave, have a look at 
http://www.kyphoto.com/classics/pentaxmeramblings.html, or download the 
ME and ME Super service manuals from Mark's website.

S

Cyril MARION wrote:

Hello all,

I'd like your help : my Me Super blocks.

It happens while taking pictures : after a shot, the mirror does not get
back in place. When I take off the lens to see where it blocks, the curtain
is visible (not film) and the mirror is still in its upper position. Also,
when I pull down the small lever located inside on the left, the mirror gets
down as expected, but as soon as I release the lever it comes up again.
From there, I've tested a quantity of tricks, but nothing works : light
shocks on the body, use of the timer, turning the camera off and on again,
taking the batteries out and in again, 125x sync, B position...
I just found one procedure which unblocks the mirror : with a winder, if the
lever is pulled down, as soon as it comes in its lower position, the winder
switches (twice) and the camera gets unblocked. If the lens is not put on
again, the unit works perfectly with as many shot as I want. But as soon as
a lens is re-placed on the body, the camera blocks again. I've tried many
types of lenses : M, A... it does not change anything.
I've dismounted the lower plate and after some observation, nothing seems
broken. Everything looks in good shape (even nearly new...)
Does someone have an idea ? It would be nice as I like this camera very much
: it is not very much used (outside shape looks quite new) and it belonged
to someone close to me.
Thanks in advance !

Cheers,

Cyril.

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RE: Help needed, thanks ! [Me Super]

[Jens Bladt]

Cyril
I had a similar problem with my Super A a couple of years ago (after haveing
dropped it on an Irish mountain. I had it in a repair shop, without any
positiv result, except replacing the film rewind knob. Finally, I took off
the bottom plate and found that there was not any electrical contact between
body and bottom plate, because the plate is painted black, which there
should be. I scraped off a litle paint at the inner edge of the bottom
plate, with my swiss army knife - and voila! After thsi my camera have been
working perfectly ever since!
All the best

Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


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Fra: Cyril MARION [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 15. april 2004 18:04
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Help needed, thanks ! [Me Super]


Hello all,

I'd like your help : my Me Super blocks.

It happens while taking pictures : after a shot, the mirror does not get
back in place. When I take off the lens to see where it blocks, the curtain
is visible (not film) and the mirror is still in its upper position. Also,
when I pull down the small lever located inside on the left, the mirror gets
down as expected, but as soon as I release the lever it comes up again.

From there, I've tested a quantity of tricks, but nothing works : light
shocks on the body, use of the timer, turning the camera off and on again,
taking the batteries out and in again, 125x sync, B position...

I just found one procedure which unblocks the mirror : with a winder, if the
lever is pulled down, as soon as it comes in its lower position, the winder
switches (twice) and the camera gets unblocked. If the lens is not put on
again, the unit works perfectly with as many shot as I want. But as soon as
a lens is re-placed on the body, the camera blocks again. I've tried many
types of lenses : M, A... it does not change anything.

I've dismounted the lower plate and after some observation, nothing seems
broken. Everything looks in good shape (even nearly new...)

Does someone have an idea ? It would be nice as I like this camera very much
: it is not very much used (outside shape looks quite new) and it belonged
to someone close to me.

Thanks in advance !

Cheers,

Cyril.

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RE: Help needed, thanks ! [Me Super]

[Jens Bladt]

Brilliant repair site, Steve. I had no idea stiff like this existed on the
web.
all the best
Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


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Fra: Steve Jolly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 15. april 2004 19:59
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Help needed, thanks ! [Me Super]


Hi Cyril,

This is one of the most common failure modes of the ME Super, and it
means that it's time for a CLA, either of the mirror mechanism or most
likely the shutter assembly.  Access to either of these requires a total
disassembly of the camera, so doing it yourself would be a fairly major
undertaking - if you're brave, have a look at
http://www.kyphoto.com/classics/pentaxmeramblings.html, or download the
ME and ME Super service manuals from Mark's website.

S

Cyril MARION wrote:

 Hello all,

 I'd like your help : my Me Super blocks.

 It happens while taking pictures : after a shot, the mirror does not get
 back in place. When I take off the lens to see where it blocks, the
curtain
 is visible (not film) and the mirror is still in its upper position. Also,
 when I pull down the small lever located inside on the left, the mirror
gets
 down as expected, but as soon as I release the lever it comes up again.

From there, I've tested a quantity of tricks, but nothing works : light
 shocks on the body, use of the timer, turning the camera off and on again,
 taking the batteries out and in again, 125x sync, B position...

 I just found one procedure which unblocks the mirror : with a winder, if
the
 lever is pulled down, as soon as it comes in its lower position, the
winder
 switches (twice) and the camera gets unblocked. If the lens is not put on
 again, the unit works perfectly with as many shot as I want. But as soon
as
 a lens is re-placed on the body, the camera blocks again. I've tried many
 types of lenses : M, A... it does not change anything.

 I've dismounted the lower plate and after some observation, nothing seems
 broken. Everything looks in good shape (even nearly new...)

 Does someone have an idea ? It would be nice as I like this camera very
much
 : it is not very much used (outside shape looks quite new) and it belonged
 to someone close to me.

 Thanks in advance !

 Cheers,

 Cyril.

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ME Super: DIY repairs

[Steve Jolly]

Given that the price of second-hand ME Supers is well below the cost of 
repair, it seemed like the only sensible way to fix a totally jammed 
aperture indicator coupler was to go DIY.  Consequently I spent most of 
the day doing exactly that.

A few things struck me: in particular how similar the basic internal 
construction was to cameras as old as the Spotmatic and probably even 
older.  I guess there aren't really that many ways to stick the bits of 
a camera together if you have everything joined up mechanically. :-)

I have to say that the Super is more impressive in terms of how much 
they managed to squeeze into such a small space than in terms of how 
easy it is to fix - why the *entire camera* had to be dismantled just to 
reach a component a few millimetres inside the lens mount I really don't 
know!  The extra electronics compared to the ME really made the 
disassembly process quite unpleasant - there's some very tricky 
soldering involved.  I hate to think what the Super A's like!  Anyone 
taken one apart?

S

FS: ME Super; winder II; SFXn; F28-80; AF201Sa; accessories

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

Hi folks,

I have the following items for sale. I expect them to be mainly of
interest to those of you based in the UK, so I list the prices in UK
pounds; we can work something out if you are not based here, I am
sure. Please note the following:

- Prices include shipping in the UK.
- Classification is as per ffordes:
  https://secure.ffordes.com/shop/descriptions.htm
- If the items are not as described, I will take them back for a full
  refund.
- I will spare you singing the praises of the designs involved, but
  please contact me if you want to chat about reasons to buy them (or
  why I am selling them).

If interested, please mail me off-list.


ME Super £70

  *New* foam and mirror bumper.
  Cosmetically EXC+ (some brassing, some scratches on the base-plate
 but that's all really).
  With
- boxed Eyecup M;
- older strap;
- and tatty manual.


ME Winder II £20

  With tatty manual


Cable release £5
-
  The type that screws on the shutter of the ME Super and others.


Flash Pentax AF 201Sa £30
-
  Boxed. With Lumiquest diffuser (velcros for it attached to the
  flash)


SFXn £90

  Mint- (I can't see what keeps me from classing it as Mint, to
   be honest)
  With:
- all trim;
- mint, original ever-ready case;
- original strap;
- original cap;
- tatty manual and good brochure.


Pentax F28-80/3.5-4.5 macro £55.
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  Opt Mint- (excellent front element; some dust inside)
  Mechanically Mint - (some zoom creep, but that's no surprise in
 these lenses).
  Cosmetically Mint (plastic rules :-)
  With both Pentax caps of correct era.

  Buy at this price and get a free Skylight 1B or UV(0) filter.


Pentax cable release F £20
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  For SFXn and MZ (probably most AF Pentax, actually)


Asahi Pentax leather case £15
-
  From the Spottie era. Some scratches but hinges perfect.
  Foam on sides needs replaced, but fine red corduroy upholstery.
  Extremely good condition for age.

Kostas

Re: SF1 and ME Super

[ernreed2]

I said:
 I can confirm that the P30t had a memory lock button. Also that it was 
limited 
 in exposure modes (M, Av, P only); information (would not tell you what 
 aperture was being set in P mode; furthermore the depth of field preview 
did 
 not work in that mode); and film speed setting (DX only, no override AND 
no 
 exposure compensation). 

Nick said:
 I think the MZ5N was the first Pentax with electronic DoF preview.

I'm pretty sure you're right.

OT: ME Super supplier

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

There's been interest voiced recently in getting ME Super backup bodies.
This seller has some good prices.
I got some stuff from him last month.  He's a good seller.
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=donsauctioninclude=0since=-1sort=3rows=50

Collin

Re: OT: ME Super supplier

[Steve Jolly]

Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
There's been interest voiced recently in getting ME Super backup bodies.
This seller has some good prices.
I got some stuff from him last month.  He's a good seller.
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=donsauctioninclude=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 

Collin
He only ships to the USA, though.

S