subject:"\[PHP\] includes"

Again, thank you for everyone that offered their advice.


Gary gwp...@ptd.net wrote in message 
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 I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and I am 
 trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.

 I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once altered 
 as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.

 My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and the bots 
 can read the page if it is made completely on includes?

 Any and all comments would be appreciated.

 Gary
 



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[PHP] Re: PHP includes

Again, thank you for everyone that offered their advice.


Gary gwp...@ptd.net wrote in message 
news:8a.64.51087.33bf3...@pb1.pair.com...
 I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and I am 
 trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.

 I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once altered 
 as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.

 My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and the bots 
 can read the page if it is made completely on includes?

 Any and all comments would be appreciated.

 Gary
 



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RE: [PHP] Re: PHP includes

2009-03-10 Thread Mayer, Jonathan

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From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk] 
Sent: 09 March 2009 19:55
To: Mayer, Jonathan
Cc: Gary; php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: PHP includes

On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 15:10 +, Mayer, Jonathan wrote:
 Thank you to everybody that replied...but it almost seems it is
making
 extra 
 work.

 I can understand using an include for a menu, since they tend to
change

 often and it is on every page, but the normal content I am not
 understanding 
 the benefit.  If I have a page that has unique content on it, that is
 to say 
 no other page has this content, why would I want to create a separate
 file 
 to be included on the page, why would I not simple put the content
 directly 
 on the page itself?

 What is the best type of file to be used as an include (.txt, .php).

 Thanks again for all your help.

 There are some circumstances where that could be useful. I don't do it
 often, but one site I made a while ago was based on a standard main
page
 with the content included in. The content pages then had absolutely
 nothing except the unique text, so that redesigns to the site were
made
 easier in the futurem, because only one page needed to be edited. So
the
 entire site was based around a page.php?ID=x with the ID specifying
the
 include required.

 Such as an example might be a little out of date now, what with CSS
and
 so forth, but it was useful at the time.

 If I am including a file with password details, I usually make it
 something random (.inc, .sec, whatever) and hide it away somewhere
 inacessible

 Gary
 Gary gwp...@ptd.net wrote in message 
 news:8a.64.51087.33bf3...@pb1.pair.com...
  I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and
I
 am 
  trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.

  I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once
 altered 
  as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.

  My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and
the
 bots 
  can read the page if it is made completely on includes?

  Any and all comments would be appreciated.

  Gary

Just thought I'd point out that it's recommended against giving non-php
extensions to PHP code pages. Basically, making all of your include
files .inc without the server correctly configured to recognise all .inc
files as PHP files, you are opening yourself up to possible hacks where
people put the URL of your include directly in their browser and view
all your code. Best thing is usually to name files like this:
filename.inc.php or some-such, and not filename.inc. 

Ash
www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

Thanks Ash - that's an excellent point which I'll remember next time I'm
including!

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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP includes

2009-03-10 Thread Michael A. Peters


Mayer, Jonathan wrote:





Just thought I'd point out that it's recommended against giving non-php
extensions to PHP code pages. Basically, making all of your include
files .inc without the server correctly configured to recognise all .inc
files as PHP files, you are opening yourself up to possible hacks where
people put the URL of your include directly in their browser and view
all your code.


Easily solveable by keeping your include files in a directory outside 
the web root. IE in a directory apache (or whatever server you use) does 
not serve.


If you have any include files that have sensitive information (IE 
database username/password, the salt/algorithm you use to create a user 
password hash, etc.) then having an include directory outside the web 
root is a must anyway - with or without a .php extension on those files 
(if apache fails to load the php module for whatever reason on a 
restart, those .php files may be sent plain text).


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[PHP] More PHP Includes

Thanks again for all the help.

I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns).  I mixed 
the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item, 
works fine.  Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 page 
declarations along with an extra set of head and body tags was playing 
havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php page 
and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and 
tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file.

I did get some strange results in that all of the tags were highlighted 
after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct.

So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html tags 
and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3)

Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a page 
of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the server...is 
this normal? 



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Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes

2009-03-10 Thread Jochem Maas

Gary schreef:
 Thanks again for all the help.
 
 I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns).  I mixed 
 the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item, 
 works fine.  Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 page 
 declarations along with an extra set of head and body tags was playing 
 havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php page 
 and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and 
 tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file.
 
 I did get some strange results in that all of the tags were highlighted 
 after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct.
 
 So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html tags 
 and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3)

I'm quite sure I don't understand any of that ... so I'd hazard a guess
and so no it's not the best way

 Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a page 
 of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the server...is 
 this normal? 
 

it's probably pointing to a file on your machine, e.g. 
file://C:/path/to/file.txt,
that's something you see quite often with DW/FrontPage/insert 
WYSIWYG-PITA-editor here.

 
 


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Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes

2009-03-10 Thread 9el

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Gary gwp...@ptd.net wrote:

 Thanks again for all the help.

 I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns).  I mixed
 the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item,
 works fine.  Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2
 page
 declarations along with an extra set of head and body tags was playing
 havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php
 page
 and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and
 tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file.

 I did get some strange results in that all of the tags were highlighted
 after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct.

 So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html tags
 and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3)


If you think of the whole layout you know how to place the tags. that is
there cant be  two  html  tags or two body tags etc.
So, it should be maintained well, that tags dont break and the html gets
valid and you do have working and expected output.



 Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a page
 of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the
 server...is
 this normal?


As mentioned, for security reasons its not wise to include files without
.php extentions.  you should include like   myincludefile.inc.php  or
sometext.txt.php etc.

As you said you are allowing the txt file from outside the server, it is
another security risk as well.   allow_url_fopen  lets this to open others
file. But lets say the file is at the hand of a bad guy, and  he modifies
that with malicious code to intrude into your server.

Please read  php Security issues to know about them in details.   CSRF, XSS,
ClickJacking, Phishing, Code-injections, SQL injections etc etc etc.
http://shiflett.org/  for  PHP Web  Security issues is a must read.  also
http://phpsec.org





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Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes

I'm sorry you were not able to understand the questions, but thank you for 
trying.

The path to the include is not an absolute path.


Jochem Maas joc...@iamjochem.com wrote in message 
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 Gary schreef:
 Thanks again for all the help.

 I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns).  I 
 mixed
 the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item,
 works fine.  Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 
 page
 declarations along with an extra set of head and body tags was 
 playing
 havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php 
 page
 and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and
 tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file.

 I did get some strange results in that all of the tags were highlighted
 after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct.

 So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html 
 tags
 and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3)

 I'm quite sure I don't understand any of that ... so I'd hazard a guess
 and so no it's not the best way

 Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a 
 page
 of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the 
 server...is
 this normal?


 it's probably pointing to a file on your machine, e.g. 
 file://C:/path/to/file.txt,
 that's something you see quite often with DW/FrontPage/insert 
 WYSIWYG-PITA-editor here.



 



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[PHP] Re: More PHP Includes

2009-03-10 Thread Clancy

On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:59:53 -0400, gwp...@ptd.net (Gary) wrote:

Thanks again for all the help.

I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns).  I mixed 
the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item, 
works fine.  Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 page 
declarations along with an extra set of head and body tags was playing 
havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php page 
and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and 
tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file.

I did get some strange results in that all of the tags were highlighted 
after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct.

So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html tags 
and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3)

The main file should set up the page (head, body, etc).  The include file 
can have any
mixture of HTML and PHP, including defining tables, etc. If it contains any PHP 
it should
be named as x.php. It is also good practice to put ?php at the start, and 
? at the
end, though it doesn't appear to make any difference.

Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a page 
of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the server...is 
this normal? 

Sorry; I don't understand this.


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Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes

2009-03-10 Thread Jochem Maas

Gary schreef:
 I'm sorry you were not able to understand the questions, but thank you for 
 trying.

a few tips:

1. don't assume people know what 'projectseven PMM'
2. it's doubtful anyone worth their salt on this list uses or
knows much about a mind-bending, soul-destroyer like DreamWeaver.
3. try your hand at building a page by hand using a simple text editor
and copious ammounts of searching/reading about HTML structure ... doing
it this way will help you to understand what goes wrong and why, when
DW tries to 'help you'.



 The path to the include is not an absolute path.

then it is on the server, somewhere on your php include_path.

 Jochem Maas joc...@iamjochem.com wrote in message 
 news:49b6b6d8.7050...@iamjochem.com...
 Gary schreef:
 Thanks again for all the help.

 I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns).  I 
 mixed
 the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item,
 works fine.  Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 
 page
 declarations along with an extra set of head and body tags was 
 playing
 havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php 
 page
 and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and
 tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file.

 I did get some strange results in that all of the tags were highlighted
 after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct.

 So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html 
 tags
 and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3)
 I'm quite sure I don't understand any of that ... so I'd hazard a guess
 and so no it's not the best way

 Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a 
 page
 of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the 
 server...is
 this normal?

 it's probably pointing to a file on your machine, e.g. 
 file://C:/path/to/file.txt,
 that's something you see quite often with DW/FrontPage/insert 
 WYSIWYG-PITA-editor here.


 
 
 


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Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes

Jochem

Thanks for your reply, the project seven and DW was just for a point of 
information, same as if you have an issue with a computer you generally find 
it a good idea to list your operating system and other pertinent facts.

I had coded the scripts and files by hand.

The file was not on the server and it did not point back to my hard drive, 
it was hand coded and not uploaded to the server, which is why it was 
curious.




Jochem Maas joc...@iamjochem.com wrote in message 
news:49b6fddd.20...@iamjochem.com...
 Gary schreef:
 I'm sorry you were not able to understand the questions, but thank you 
 for
 trying.

 a few tips:

 1. don't assume people know what 'projectseven PMM'
 2. it's doubtful anyone worth their salt on this list uses or
 knows much about a mind-bending, soul-destroyer like DreamWeaver.
 3. try your hand at building a page by hand using a simple text editor
 and copious ammounts of searching/reading about HTML structure ... doing
 it this way will help you to understand what goes wrong and why, when
 DW tries to 'help you'.



 The path to the include is not an absolute path.

 then it is on the server, somewhere on your php include_path.

 Jochem Maas joc...@iamjochem.com wrote in message
 news:49b6b6d8.7050...@iamjochem.com...
 Gary schreef:
 Thanks again for all the help.

 I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns).  I
 mixed
 the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library 
 item,
 works fine.  Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2
 page
 declarations along with an extra set of head and body tags was
 playing
 havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php
 page
 and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and
 tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file.

 I did get some strange results in that all of the tags were 
 highlighted
 after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct.

 So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html
 tags
 and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3)
 I'm quite sure I don't understand any of that ... so I'd hazard a guess
 and so no it's not the best way

 Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a
 page
 of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the
 server...is
 this normal?

 it's probably pointing to a file on your machine, e.g.
 file://C:/path/to/file.txt,
 that's something you see quite often with DW/FrontPage/insert
 WYSIWYG-PITA-editor here.





 



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Re: [PHP] PHP includes

2009-03-09 Thread tedd


At 1:06 PM -0400 3/8/09, Gary wrote:

I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and I am
trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.

I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once altered
as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.

My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and the bots
can read the page if it is made completely on includes?

Any and all comments would be appreciated.

Gary



Gary:

A demo might help:

http://sperling.com/examples/include-demo/

As for SEO, includes neither help nor hurt. Includes deliver code as 
requested for both bot and human alike. They are completely 
transparent to whatever/whomever are requesting them.


Cheers,

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Re: [PHP] PHP includes

2009-03-09 Thread Virgilio Quilario

 I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and I am
 trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.

 I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once altered
 as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.

 My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and the bots
 can read the page if it is made completely on includes?

 Any and all comments would be appreciated.


hi Gary,

It doesn't matter to SEO because search engines and the bots reads the
output of your php scripts.
whatever you see when you browse your page, same thing bots would see.

Includes is a way to modularize your scripts instead of monolithic or
repeated codes everywhere in your php file.

Virgil
http://www.jampmark.com

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Re: [PHP] PHP includes


Virgilio Quilario wrote:

I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and I am
trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.

I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once altered
as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.

My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and the bots
can read the page if it is made completely on includes?

Any and all comments would be appreciated.



hi Gary,

It doesn't matter to SEO because search engines and the bots reads the
output of your php scripts.
whatever you see when you browse your page, same thing bots would see.

Includes is a way to modularize your scripts instead of monolithic or
repeated codes everywhere in your php file.

Virgil
http://www.jampmark.com


everybody is correct, include = server side include - all happens on 
the server, client never knows


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[PHP] Re: PHP includes

2009-03-09 Thread Gary

Thank you to everybody that replied...but it almost seems it is making extra 
work.

I can understand using an include for a menu, since they tend to change 
often and it is on every page, but the normal content I am not understanding 
the benefit.  If I have a page that has unique content on it, that is to say 
no other page has this content, why would I want to create a separate file 
to be included on the page, why would I not simple put the content directly 
on the page itself?

What is the best type of file to be used as an include (.txt, .php).

Thanks again for all your help.

Gary
Gary gwp...@ptd.net wrote in message 
news:8a.64.51087.33bf3...@pb1.pair.com...
 I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and I am 
 trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.

 I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once altered 
 as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.

 My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and the bots 
 can read the page if it is made completely on includes?

 Any and all comments would be appreciated.

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RE: [PHP] Re: PHP includes

2009-03-09 Thread Mayer, Jonathan


Thank you to everybody that replied...but it almost seems it is making
extra 
work.

I can understand using an include for a menu, since they tend to change

often and it is on every page, but the normal content I am not
understanding 
the benefit.  If I have a page that has unique content on it, that is
to say 
no other page has this content, why would I want to create a separate
file 
to be included on the page, why would I not simple put the content
directly 
on the page itself?

What is the best type of file to be used as an include (.txt, .php).

Thanks again for all your help.

There are some circumstances where that could be useful. I don't do it
often, but one site I made a while ago was based on a standard main page
with the content included in. The content pages then had absolutely
nothing except the unique text, so that redesigns to the site were made
easier in the futurem, because only one page needed to be edited. So the
entire site was based around a page.php?ID=x with the ID specifying the
include required.

Such as an example might be a little out of date now, what with CSS and
so forth, but it was useful at the time.

If I am including a file with password details, I usually make it
something random (.inc, .sec, whatever) and hide it away somewhere
inacessible

Gary
Gary gwp...@ptd.net wrote in message 
news:8a.64.51087.33bf3...@pb1.pair.com...
 I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and I
am 
 trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.

 I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once
altered 
 as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.

 My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and the
bots 
 can read the page if it is made completely on includes?

 Any and all comments would be appreciated.

 Gary
 






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RE: [PHP] Re: PHP includes

2009-03-09 Thread Bob McConnell

From: Gary
 
 Thank you to everybody that replied...but it almost seems it is making
extra 
 work.
 
 I can understand using an include for a menu, since they tend to
change 
 often and it is on every page, but the normal content I am not
understanding 
 the benefit.  If I have a page that has unique content on it, that is
to say 
 no other page has this content, why would I want to create a separate
file 
 to be included on the page, why would I not simple put the content
directly 
 on the page itself?
 
 What is the best type of file to be used as an include (.txt, .php).
 

We include template files for the head block, a banner across the top
of every page, the footer across the bottom, the menu and images in the
left sidebar, and the advertisement banners across the top and bottom.
Even the core section of each page is included from the initial file.
That way we can change the appearance, or modify the links to our
disclaimers and help files just once and every page gets updated. We
also have configuration flags to prevent some of those files from being
included in a specific virtual domain, so our clients can provide their
own templates instead of using ours.

File extensions for includes are up to you. Just make sure your
IDE/Editor know that they are PHP files. We use .lia for the libraries
of functions we use throughout the site. None of our files have .php as
the extension.

Bob McConnell

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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP includes

2009-03-09 Thread Sudheer Satyanarayana


Gary wrote:
Thank you to everybody that replied...but it almost seems it is making extra 
work.


I can understand using an include for a menu, since they tend to change 
often and it is on every page, but the normal content I am not understanding 
the benefit.  If I have a page that has unique content on it, that is to say 
no other page has this content, why would I want to create a separate file 
to be included on the page, why would I not simple put the content directly 
on the page itself?
  
There are several advantages of using include. I can't imagine an 
application without include/require/autoload.


I create the database adapter only once per request. I store several 
application configuration items in a config file and load this 
configuration information only once per request. I have one layout for 
the application. Only the content and the menus change. So, I would 
simply include various sections of the web page in relevant positions.

Example:
layout.php
?php
include 'header.php';
include 'menu.php'; // menu.php is also dynamic. menu.php determines 
what to display on the current page.
include 'sidebar.php'; // within sidebar.php I would include 
block_a.php, block_b.php, etc

include 'footer.php';
?

I put the utility functions and classes in a library file. I would 
simply include the library.php and use the functions available in it.


I hope you get the point of using include.

What is the best type of file to be used as an include (.txt, .php).

  


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[PHP] Re: PHP includes


Gary wrote:
Thank you to everybody that replied...but it almost seems it is making extra 
work.


I can understand using an include for a menu, since they tend to change 
often and it is on every page, but the normal content I am not understanding 
the benefit.  If I have a page that has unique content on it, that is to say 
no other page has this content, why would I want to create a separate file 
to be included on the page, why would I not simple put the content directly 
on the page itself?


What is the best type of file to be used as an include (.txt, .php).

Thanks again for all your help.

Gary
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I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and I am 
trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.


I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once altered 
as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.


My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and the bots 
can read the page if it is made completely on includes?


Any and all comments would be appreciated.

Gary






Hi Gary,

I think this thread is at risk of getting confusing and not addressing 
the problem at its root.


An include is typically used to allow storing reusable code in a file 
all by itself, this could be a settings (config) file, a class, an html 
template or whatever - purpose being of course to keep you all nice and 
organised, with each thing in its place.


Leaving out everything else and focusing only on why we'd use 
include/require in an application, let's take a simple example:


Simple PHP Site with 3 Pages.
1 - / (the homepage)
2 - /?page=about (the about us page)
3 - /?page=contact (the contact us page)

in the above scenario then your index.php could look like this

?php

//set the default page to be home
$page = 'home';

//check if a page has been specified
if( isset($_GET['page']) ) {
  $page = $_GET['page'];
}

if( $page == 'home' )
{
  include 'home.php';
}
elseif ( $page == 'about' )
{
  include 'about.php';
}
else( $page == 'contact' )
{
  include 'contact.php';
}
else
{
  include 'page-not-found.php';
}

?

very simple, but works; now let's expand it a bit.. in a real world 
scenario we probably have a good chunk of script at the top of index.php 
that holds database settings, database connection etc. and in each of 
our pages we probably have much of the html repeated (site header, 
footer, navigation) - we can then abstract these in to there own files 
to keep it all nice and clean.. as such


?php
$page = 'home';
if( isset($_GET['page']) ) {
  $page = $_GET['page'];
}

// get site  database settings
require 'config.php';

// get our database class
require 'classes/class.database.php';

// start out database
$database = new DatabaseClass($settings_from_config);

// load the site header
include 'templates/header.php';

// load the content for the requested page
if( $page == 'home' )
{
  include 'content/home.php';
}
elseif ( $page == 'about' )
{
  include 'content/about.php';
}
else( $page == 'contact' )
{
  include 'content/contact.php';
}
else
{
  include 'content/page-not-found.php';
}

// load the site footer
include 'templates/footer.php';

?

now everything is in its rightful place and we have lots of easy files 
to work with, for example now you can let a designer work on the 
about.php page knowing that they won't be able to break the whole 
application, as it's just a bit of html content.


also, you can now change the header image in one file 
(templates/header.php) and the whole site will update.


most PHP websites are simply far more complex versions of the above, 
look complicated but the principals are the same.


now the only thing I didn't cover is which to use.. it's often the case 
that require_once and include_once should be used over include and 
require; because in most cases (certainly with classes) you just want to 
ensure the code is available. both of the _once statements will only 
load the file if it hasn't been already, thus ensuring no errors such as 
class already defined because it's already been included!


On the other hand if the code in the file has been designed to be used 
many times on a page then include would be the better choice - a 
really stupid example but consider a file containing a fancy horizontal 
bar; you may want to include this many times on a page.


Finally, require and require_once will kill the script with an error if 
the file isn't found, whereas include will throw an error and simply 
keep on going if the files isn't found.


Think that covers everything in the scope of this :)

Regards!

Nathan

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[PHP] Re: PHP includes


Gary wrote:
Thank you to everybody that replied...but it almost seems it is making extra 
work.


What is the best type of file to be used as an include (.txt, .php).



new I forgot something! the best type of file to be used as an include 
differs on a case by case basis.


name the files correctly and forget about dictating in advance, file 
extensions are there so people can easily identify what's in the file - 
and when you have 10,000 files you'll really appreciate this :p


some_code.php
some_html.html
some_text.txt

all of them can be included, and even reading the list you can pretty 
much guess what each contains.


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RE: [PHP] Re: PHP includes

2009-03-09 Thread Ashley Sheridan

On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 15:10 +, Mayer, Jonathan wrote:
 Thank you to everybody that replied...but it almost seems it is making
 extra 
 work.
 
 I can understand using an include for a menu, since they tend to change
 
 often and it is on every page, but the normal content I am not
 understanding 
 the benefit.  If I have a page that has unique content on it, that is
 to say 
 no other page has this content, why would I want to create a separate
 file 
 to be included on the page, why would I not simple put the content
 directly 
 on the page itself?
 
 What is the best type of file to be used as an include (.txt, .php).
 
 Thanks again for all your help.
 
 There are some circumstances where that could be useful. I don't do it
 often, but one site I made a while ago was based on a standard main page
 with the content included in. The content pages then had absolutely
 nothing except the unique text, so that redesigns to the site were made
 easier in the futurem, because only one page needed to be edited. So the
 entire site was based around a page.php?ID=x with the ID specifying the
 include required.
 
 Such as an example might be a little out of date now, what with CSS and
 so forth, but it was useful at the time.
 
 If I am including a file with password details, I usually make it
 something random (.inc, .sec, whatever) and hide it away somewhere
 inacessible
 
 Gary
 Gary gwp...@ptd.net wrote in message 
 news:8a.64.51087.33bf3...@pb1.pair.com...
  I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and I
 am 
  trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.
 
  I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once
 altered 
  as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.
 
  My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and the
 bots 
  can read the page if it is made completely on includes?
 
  Any and all comments would be appreciated.
 
  Gary
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
Just thought I'd point out that it's recommended against giving non-php
extensions to PHP code pages. Basically, making all of your include
files .inc without the server correctly configured to recognise all .inc
files as PHP files, you are opening yourself up to possible hacks where
people put the URL of your include directly in their browser and view
all your code. Best thing is usually to name files like this:
filename.inc.php or some-such, and not filename.inc. 


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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP includes


Ashley Sheridan wrote:

Just thought I'd point out that it's recommended against giving non-php
extensions to PHP code pages. Basically, making all of your include
files .inc without the server correctly configured to recognise all .inc
files as PHP files, you are opening yourself up to possible hacks where
people put the URL of your include directly in their browser and view
all your code. Best thing is usually to name files like this:
filename.inc.php or some-such, and not filename.inc. 



v well said - one thing you never want is your source showing!

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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP includes

2009-03-09 Thread Larry Garfield

On Monday 09 March 2009 3:07:17 pm Nathan Rixham wrote:
 Ashley Sheridan wrote:
  Just thought I'd point out that it's recommended against giving non-php
  extensions to PHP code pages. Basically, making all of your include
  files .inc without the server correctly configured to recognise all .inc
  files as PHP files, you are opening yourself up to possible hacks where
  people put the URL of your include directly in their browser and view
  all your code. Best thing is usually to name files like this:
  filename.inc.php or some-such, and not filename.inc.

 v well said - one thing you never want is your source showing!

Unless you're working in open source and then the source is showing anyway 
from the original download site.  And if simply knowing your source code is a 
security hole, then you have bad software.

Your config file with passwords and such, sure, keep that locked down tight.  
But don't rely on security through obscurity.

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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP includes

2009-03-09 Thread Ashley Sheridan

On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 15:23 -0500, Larry Garfield wrote:
 On Monday 09 March 2009 3:07:17 pm Nathan Rixham wrote:
  Ashley Sheridan wrote:
   Just thought I'd point out that it's recommended against giving non-php
   extensions to PHP code pages. Basically, making all of your include
   files .inc without the server correctly configured to recognise all .inc
   files as PHP files, you are opening yourself up to possible hacks where
   people put the URL of your include directly in their browser and view
   all your code. Best thing is usually to name files like this:
   filename.inc.php or some-such, and not filename.inc.
 
  v well said - one thing you never want is your source showing!
 
 Unless you're working in open source and then the source is showing anyway 
 from the original download site.  And if simply knowing your source code is a 
 security hole, then you have bad software.
 
 Your config file with passwords and such, sure, keep that locked down tight.  
 But don't rely on security through obscurity.
 
 -- 
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 la...@garfieldtech.com
 
I was talking about includes that have things such as database
connection information and other sensitive things. By making it a PHP
file, you prevent the code from being seen, ergo you hide your password,
etc. phpMyAdmin does it this way, using a config.inc.php file for
holding the connection information to each database.


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[PHP] PHP includes

2009-03-08 Thread Gary

I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and I am 
trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.

I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once altered 
as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.

My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and the bots 
can read the page if it is made completely on includes?

Any and all comments would be appreciated.

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Re: [PHP] PHP includes

2009-03-08 Thread Sudheer Satyanarayana


Gary wrote:
I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and I am 
trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.


I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once altered 
as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.


My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and the bots 
can read the page if it is made completely on includes?


  
It really does not matter to search engines and bots. They see the 
output of your PHP scripts not the code. They won't know whether your 
PHP script used include. Just the way you see web pages with some 
content and not the PHP code that generated it.

Any and all comments would be appreciated.

Gary 




  


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Re: [PHP] PHP includes

2009-03-08 Thread George Larson

Right.  There are several advantages to using included files.   You can
write routines that you're going to use repeatedly and just include the file
with the code, instead of re-inventing the wheel, as they say.

Consistency is another advantage.  So, if you design your header, sidebar
and footer and just include them then you don't need to edit every stinking
page on your site when you want to make a change.

There's a handful of include-type statements.  Include, include_one,
require, require_once, etc.  I'd read about those four before making a
choice about which to use.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Gary gwp...@ptd.net wrote:

 I'm working on learning php and have been toying with includes, and I am
 trying to figure the advantages/disadvantages to using them.

 I know that using them eliminates the need to put the files once altered
 as with a template, however, is that the only advantage.

 My particular concerns are with SEO and if the search engines and the bots
 can read the page if it is made completely on includes?

 Any and all comments would be appreciated.

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Re: [PHP] Includes only if required?

2009-02-02 Thread Eric Butera

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Edmund Hertle farn...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hey,
 normally I prefer to do all my includes (classes + config files) at the
 beginning if my php files. But recently I thought about including some
 classes only if they are needed later in my code (like pear Mail and
 Mail_mime only if an e-mail is about to be sent) because of speed issues. So
 my question: Is this something I should consider? Or is it something I
 normally will not notice?

 -eddy


Look at spl_autoload_register.

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[PHP] Includes only if required?

2009-02-02 Thread Edmund Hertle

Hey,
normally I prefer to do all my includes (classes + config files) at the
beginning if my php files. But recently I thought about including some
classes only if they are needed later in my code (like pear Mail and
Mail_mime only if an e-mail is about to be sent) because of speed issues. So
my question: Is this something I should consider? Or is it something I
normally will not notice?

-eddy

Re: [PHP] Includes only if required?

2009-02-02 Thread Richard Heyes

Hi,

 Mail_mime

Ooh...

 only if an e-mail is about to be sent) because of speed issues. So
 my question: Is this something I should consider? Or is it something I
 normally will not notice?

Depends on the load on your server. If you're getting a billion
requests per second, then it may well be cause for concern. Either way
you can define a function called __autoload that gets called when a
class is about to be instantiated. This function can then load the
correct library. On demand as it were.

http://uk2.php.net/__autoload

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[PHP] Question About PHP Includes

2008-04-03 Thread jwynacht


Hi,

I help maintain a Movable Type install for a non-profit organization. Things
have worked well with the site but the other day the home page went blank
and the rest of the pages lost all of their formatting. I've done some
debugging and it seems that some include statements are no longer working.
Here is the code:

?php
ini_set(open_basedir,ini_get(include_path).:/some/absolute/path/to/httpdocs);
ini_set(include_path,ini_get(include_path).:/some/absolute/path/to/httpdocs/Includes);
$title = 'Some Non-Profit';
@include('header.inc');

$rawevents= implode(\n,
file('//some/absolute/path/to/httpdocs/Includes/home_include-events'));
$events = stripmtpara($rawevents);
?

!-- * MAIN CONTENT SECTION ** --

?php 
@include('homeheader.inc'); 
?

This code has worked forever so I'm not sure what's up. Based on my
debugging I've found that:

1. The lines starting with $rawevents and $events, when commented out, allow
the page to be rendered, but without the header information.

2. If I change the absolute paths in the ini_set statements to be relative
paths I get my header information.

I'm stumped...any ideas? I'm running PHP 5.2.5.

Thanks!

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Re: [PHP] Question About PHP Includes

2008-04-03 Thread Daniel Brown

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:22 AM, jwynacht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi,

  I help maintain a Movable Type install for a non-profit organization. Things
  have worked well with the site but the other day the home page went blank
  and the rest of the pages lost all of their formatting. I've done some
  debugging and it seems that some include statements are no longer working.
  Here is the code:

  ?php
  
 ini_set(open_basedir,ini_get(include_path).:/some/absolute/path/to/httpdocs);
  
 ini_set(include_path,ini_get(include_path).:/some/absolute/path/to/httpdocs/Includes);
  $title = 'Some Non-Profit';
  @include('header.inc');
[snip!]

Have you tried removing error buffering on the include()
statement?  Just remove the @ and see if there's any errors output on
the screen or to the log.

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Re: [PHP] Question About PHP Includes

2008-04-03 Thread Daniel Brown

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Jon Wynacht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Dan,

  I just tried that and didn't see any errors on the screen or in my log
 file. I'm really quite stumped and am wondering if my ISP made some changes
 on their end?

  Thanks,

  Jon

Please keep all replies on-list, Jon, so others may benefit when
searching the web and the archives.

If you're on a shared host, that is most likely the reason it's
happening: your host likely made a change without informing you.
Since you can get everything to work with relative paths, but not
absolute paths, it sounds like your account has been chroot'd.  If you
can't use relative paths for some reason, try speaking with your host
to have the chroot (jail) removed for that account.

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Re: [PHP] Question About PHP Includes

2008-04-03 Thread Jon Wynacht


Whoopssorry abut the reply ;-(

Thanks for the advice...I'll start making the changes in the path.

Cheers,

Jon

On Apr 3, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Daniel Brown wrote:

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Jon Wynacht  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Dan,

 I just tried that and didn't see any errors on the screen or in  
my log
file. I'm really quite stumped and am wondering if my ISP made  
some changes

on their end?

 Thanks,

 Jon


Please keep all replies on-list, Jon, so others may benefit when
searching the web and the archives.

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happening: your host likely made a change without informing you.
Since you can get everything to work with relative paths, but not
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can't use relative paths for some reason, try speaking with your host
to have the chroot (jail) removed for that account.

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Re: [PHP] Includes eating up my time [SOLVED]

2007-08-02 Thread Dave M G


David,

Thank you for responding.


__autoload
... which basically only loads classes when they are required. 


Yes, this is exactly what I needed. Not only was I already on PHP5, but 
fortunately I had also already been building my classes so that it was 
one class per file, as __autoload requires.


So this was possibly the easiest and most effective change I've ever 
implemented. And the results were impressive. The Zend profiler reported 
that I went from 500 to 800 milliseconds per page request down to 40 to 
60 milliseconds. Occasional database connections raised the time now and 
again, but I think I have a handle on that.


Thank you for pointing that out to me. Just the right solution.

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[PHP] Includes eating up my time

2007-07-31 Thread Dave M G


PHP general list,

This is probably obvious to people who are good at PHP, but I'm

I have a PHP based CMS (content management system) built, which has 
grown and become quite robust. It's now spread out over about 30 files, 
and each file represents one class within the object oriented design. 
Each are a couple hundred lines of code, and two or three of the most 
critical classes are over a thousand lines of code.


While first building it, I didn't really anticipate quite that many 
files. What I did is have a file called includes.php, which list all 
the files to be included. Then I in turn included includes.php at the 
beginning of my index.php file. Every page request passes through the 
index.php file, so that basically means every single file is included 
at the start of every new page request.


I'm using Zend Studio, which has a profile option, which shows how 
long it takes for my PHP scripts to complete a request. It has a 
breakdown showing percentages of which scripts are using that processing 
time.


Currently, my processes are taking under a second, but they can be 
around half a second or more. Although it all happens too fast for me to 
really notice as a person, it seems to me that a half second of 
processing time might be kind of long and lead to scalability problems.


My first question is: Is a half second too long? I'm pretty sure it is, 
but maybe I'm just being paranoid. What do people consider to be 
acceptable time frames for processing a web page similar to what 
Wikipedia delivers?


Most of the time is taken with the includes. Anywhere from 60% to 90% of 
the time it takes to process my scripts is coming from the includes.php 
file.


I read somewhere that it's not a good idea to have more than 10 includes 
in any one place. I'm fine with trying to break up my include requests, 
but I'm unsure as to how. As each function in each class passes around 
objects, it's not clear from looking at the code which ones are used at 
any one time, so I'm unsure how to efficiently include only the 
necessary classes.


My second question is: Is there a systematic way of determining how to 
incrementally include files that people use? Or is it just a constant 
process of testing and checking?


Thank you for any advice.

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Re: [PHP] Includes eating up my time

2007-07-31 Thread David Restall - System Administrator

Hi Dave,

 PHP general list,
 
 This is probably obvious to people who are good at PHP, but I'm
 
 I have a PHP based CMS (content management system) built, which has 
 grown and become quite robust. It's now spread out over about 30 files, 
 and each file represents one class within the object oriented design. 
 Each are a couple hundred lines of code, and two or three of the most 
 critical classes are over a thousand lines of code.

It may just be a 'dave' thing but my stuff does that too :-)

 While first building it, I didn't really anticipate quite that many 
 files. What I did is have a file called includes.php, which list all 
 the files to be included. Then I in turn included includes.php at the 
 beginning of my index.php file. Every page request passes through the 
 index.php file, so that basically means every single file is included 
 at the start of every new page request.

Ahh the 'dave' thing returns :-)

 I'm using Zend Studio, which has a profile option, which shows how 
 long it takes for my PHP scripts to complete a request. It has a 
 breakdown showing percentages of which scripts are using that processing 
 time.

Real dave's use vi  top :-P

 My second question is: Is there a systematic way of determining how to 
 incrementally include files that people use? Or is it just a constant 
 process of testing and checking?
 
 Thank you for any advice.

What version of PHP are you using ?  I moved over to 5 and it has a nice
cute feature :-

http://uk3.php.net/__autoload

which basically only loads classes when they are required.  PHP 5 has
some other nice to have features and will cause you a bit of work if
you migrate to it BUT it is worth the effort especially in the light of
888 :-)

As for your performance problems, the times are heavily dependant on the
hardware and underlying OS  server load etc. without further info,
diagnosing problems will be dificult.

TTFN



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Re: [PHP] Includes eating up my time

2007-07-31 Thread Chad Robinson


Dave M G wrote:

Currently, my processes are taking under a second, but they can be
around half a second or more. Although it all happens too fast for me to
really notice as a person, it seems to me that a half second of
processing time might be kind of long and lead to scalability problems.
  
That's hardly the worst performance I've seen from a CMS, but you should 
know that nearly all CMS systems are slow, many slower than this, for 
similar reasons. The solution is usually to build a front-end cache, 
either in the CMS itself or using an external tool. For instance, MODx 
caches internally, while others rely on Apache/Enfold/etc.

My first question is: Is a half second too long? I'm pretty sure it is,
but maybe I'm just being paranoid. What do people consider to be
acceptable time frames for processing a web page similar to what
Wikipedia delivers?
  
When you quote Wikipedia, you do realize that they're not a CMS, right, 
that they're a Wiki? There are some subtle differences. I haven't looked 
at Wikipedia's Wiki code (I like TWiki) but the Wikis I've used don't 
actually use a database or a billion classes to get their work done. 
They're more focused on editing an entire page of static content, which 
is stored on disk (and thus directly accessible by the server).


If you want that kind of scalability you also MUST implement some sort 
of caching. PHP is a scripting language, and no scripting language will 
ever keep up with compiled code, no matter how good (and PHP is good). 
You might also consider looking at the Zend Optimizer - I've never tried 
it, but have heard good things.

My second question is: Is there a systematic way of determining how to
incrementally include files that people use? Or is it just a constant
process of testing and checking?
  
PHP does have an auto-include system called the autoloader. We use this 
heavily in Blackbird ESB to load classes on the fly when they're 
referenced. It only works for loading classes, but since you say that's 
what you have... Take a look here:

http://us.php.net/autoload

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Re: [PHP] Includes eating up my time

2007-07-31 Thread Larry Garfield

On Tuesday 31 July 2007, Dave M G wrote:
 PHP general list,

 This is probably obvious to people who are good at PHP, but I'm

 I have a PHP based CMS (content management system) built, which has
 grown and become quite robust. It's now spread out over about 30 files,
 and each file represents one class within the object oriented design.
 Each are a couple hundred lines of code, and two or three of the most
 critical classes are over a thousand lines of code.

 While first building it, I didn't really anticipate quite that many
 files. What I did is have a file called includes.php, which list all
 the files to be included. Then I in turn included includes.php at the
 beginning of my index.php file. Every page request passes through the
 index.php file, so that basically means every single file is included
 at the start of every new page request.

Yep, that's the downside of a shared-nothing architecture.  Initialization 
gets slower.

Possible solutions include:

- If you're using all classes, use PHP 5's __autoload() or better still 
spl_autoload_register() to load classes on demand instead of all at once.

- Refactor your code to conditionally include code only when needed.  E.g., 
you probably only need one page handler loaded per page request.  I'm in the 
process of doing that for Drupal right now and the savings are quite 
substantial.

- Op code cache.  This is exactly where an op code cache will get you the 
biggest win, by saving you the loading and parsing time.  

- Page caching.  To do page caching best, you should have the system do a 
partial bootstrap, check to see if it can serve a page from the cache, do so 
if it can, and if it can't only then finish loading the rest of the system.  
That way you skip most of the loading process on cached requests.

- Some combination of the above.  I'd do the op code cache last, as that's a 
sure-fire easy win while the others take effort.  So do those first, and then 
whatever's left you can throw an op code cache at for an extra boost.

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[PHP] Includes, Require, Location, Other

2006-06-18 Thread Beauford

Hi,

If I were to have something like the following, what is the best way (or
best practice) to reload the page and display the error - or is there a
better way to do this. I want to keep the site uniform and don't want errors
popping up and making a mess.

Thanks

B

-

$query = select idn, name from manager order by name;
$results = mysql_query($query) or $mysqlerror = mysql_error();
if ($mysqlerror) { 
$error = $table_error$mysqlerror;
include(season.php); - This is not what I really want and
in   some cases
it cause problems.
exit;
}   
else {  
The rest of the code
}

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Re: [PHP] Includes, Require, Location, Other

2006-06-18 Thread Larry Garfield

A couple of things.

1) Delay your output to the very end.  That way you can still do page 
redirects and build whole new pages depending on the errors you get.

2) Store errors in the session, then when building the page have a place 
for put any error messages here, then delete them from the session.  

3) Better yet, use PHP's set_error_handler() features to break out of the flow 
of the page completely when necessary.  You can do a lot more error checking 
that way, and it makes the code cleaner to boot.

4) Structure your code so that you can't send malformed SQL in the first 
place. :-)  If you're writing a static query, test it before it goes live 
(duh).  If it's a dynamic query, structure it in such a way that it can't not 
be valid.  (There's lots of ways do to that.  I find arrays and implode() to 
work well for me.)  At worst you'll return an empty result set, which is not 
an error but in fact a genuine situation you should be accounting for anyway.  
What you're doing below is really just a fancy version of mysql_query() or 
die, which I've always felt is very sloppy code.

On Sunday 18 June 2006 10:33, Beauford wrote:
 Hi,

 If I were to have something like the following, what is the best way (or
 best practice) to reload the page and display the error - or is there a
 better way to do this. I want to keep the site uniform and don't want
 errors popping up and making a mess.

 Thanks

 B

 -

   $query = select idn, name from manager order by name;
   $results = mysql_query($query) or $mysqlerror = mysql_error();
   if ($mysqlerror) {
   $error = $table_error$mysqlerror;
   include(season.php); - This is not what I really want and
 in some cases
 it cause problems.
   exit;
   }
   else {
   The rest of the code
   }

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Re: [PHP] Includes and paths confusion

2006-04-29 Thread Richard Lynch

On Fri, April 28, 2006 3:09 am, Nick Wilson wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ls
ads/ config.inc db.inc funcs.inc init.inc

where ads/ is a whole huge set of scripts from an existing setup. ads/
was originally placed on its own domain as it's a version of phpadsnew
and runs as a server all by itself.

Whoever wrote phpadsnew assumed you don't understand PHP's
include_path, so they tried to be smart and used relative paths.

But that ONLY works if you install everything in exactly the same
structure as they thought you should. :-(

I moved ads/ to this directory to try to troubleshoot and make things
clearer.

db.inc has these lines:

require_once(ads/admin/config.php);
require_once(lib-statistics.inc.php);
require_once(lib-zones.inc.php);
require_once(config.inc.php);
require_once(lib-db.inc.php);
require_once(lib-dbconfig.inc.php);

warning: main(../config.inc.php): failed to open stream: No such file
or
directory in
/var/www/localhost/vhosts/payment.communicontent.com/modules/partners/inc/ads/admin/config.php
on line 33.

Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required '../config.inc.php'
(include_path='.:/usr/lib/php') in
/var/www/localhost/vhosts/payment.communicontent.com/modules/partners/inc/ads/admin/config.php
on line 33

So, the ads/admin/config.php is looking for '../config.inc.php' which
is not there.

But it's getting called, as far as we can tell from what you have
posted, from ads/db.inc, in which case the correct path would just be
'config.inc.php', since the base path of db.inc is /ads/ and that's
where 'config.inc.php' is...

It seems awfully odd that db.inc would require 'ads/admin/config.php'
in the first place, tell you the truth...

So, why does this not happen when ads/ is on its own domain? I can see
it has something to do with relative paths, but even when i try to
work
with chdir() i still get no joy.

I don't think chdir() affects where PHP and include_path look for
include files...

I just can't figure out what the issue may be, so any pointers in the
right direction would be hugely appreciated.

I think the first thing I would do would be to make sure that you
restore the code to what is on the other server.

THEN, change your include_path within /ads to be:
'.:/var/www/localhost/vhosts/payment.communicontent.com/modules/partners/inc/ads'

AND, change your include_path within /ads/admin to be:
'.:/var/www/localhost/vhosts/payment.communicontent.com/modules/partners/inc/ads/admin'

Oh!
It's possible, even LIKELY, that when you copied the files over, you
missed copying over the .htaccess files that did this for you from
the other server -- because files named with a leading '.' are ignored
by many command line tools (tar, cp, etc) unless you specifically
include them with command flags or list them by name as filenames.

If you are just missing the .htaccess files, just copy those over, and
undo any changes you've been making to try and fix the problem. :-)

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[PHP] Includes and paths confusion

2006-04-28 Thread Nick Wilson

Hello all, 

Im having some problems understanding why some requires() are failing.
Let me see if i can describe what's going on clearly...

I have this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ls
ads/  config.inc  db.inc  funcs.inc  init.inc

where ads/ is a whole huge set of scripts from an existing setup. ads/
was originally placed on its own domain as it's a version of phpadsnew
and runs as a server all by itself.

I moved ads/ to this directory to try to troubleshoot and make things
clearer. 

db.inc has these lines:


require_once(ads/admin/config.php);
require_once(lib-statistics.inc.php);
require_once(lib-zones.inc.php);
require_once(config.inc.php);
require_once(lib-db.inc.php);
require_once(lib-dbconfig.inc.php);

warning: main(../config.inc.php): failed to open stream: No such file or
directory in
/var/www/localhost/vhosts/payment.communicontent.com/modules/partners/inc/ads/admin/config.php
on line 33.


Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required '../config.inc.php'
(include_path='.:/usr/lib/php') in
/var/www/localhost/vhosts/payment.communicontent.com/modules/partners/inc/ads/admin/config.php
on line 33


So, why does this not happen when ads/ is on its own domain? I can see
it has something to do with relative paths, but even when i try to work
with chdir() i still get no joy. 

I just can't figure out what the issue may be, so any pointers in the
right direction would be hugely appreciated. 

thankyou!


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Re: [PHP] Includes and paths confusion

2006-04-28 Thread Jochem Maas


Nick Wilson wrote:
Hello all, 


Im having some problems understanding why some requires() are failing.
Let me see if i can describe what's going on clearly...

I have this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ls
ads/  config.inc  db.inc  funcs.inc  init.inc

where ads/ is a whole huge set of scripts from an existing setup. ads/
was originally placed on its own domain as it's a version of phpadsnew
and runs as a server all by itself.

I moved ads/ to this directory to try to troubleshoot and make things
clearer. 


db.inc has these lines:



use something *like* the following:

$oldincpath = ini_get('include_path');
ini_set('include_path', 'path/to/ads/stuff:etc');

// do your 'ads' requires

ini_set('include_path', $oldincpath);

also look into the magic constant __FILE__ and the functions dirname()
and realpath(). read the manual regard how to use 'include_path'

have fun.



require_once(ads/admin/config.php);
require_once(lib-statistics.inc.php);
require_once(lib-zones.inc.php);
require_once(config.inc.php);
require_once(lib-db.inc.php);
require_once(lib-dbconfig.inc.php);

warning: main(../config.inc.php): failed to open stream: No such file or
directory in
/var/www/localhost/vhosts/payment.communicontent.com/modules/partners/inc/ads/admin/config.php
on line 33.


Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required '../config.inc.php'
(include_path='.:/usr/lib/php') in
/var/www/localhost/vhosts/payment.communicontent.com/modules/partners/inc/ads/admin/config.php
on line 33


So, why does this not happen when ads/ is on its own domain? I can see
it has something to do with relative paths, but even when i try to work
with chdir() i still get no joy. 


I just can't figure out what the issue may be, so any pointers in the
right direction would be hugely appreciated. 


thankyou!




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Re: [PHP] Includes and paths confusion

2006-04-28 Thread Nick Wilson


* and then Jochem Maas declared
 Nick Wilson wrote:
 Hello all, Im having some problems understanding why some requires() are 
 failing.
 Let me see if i can describe what's going on clearly...
 I have this:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ls
 ads/  config.inc  db.inc  funcs.inc  init.inc
 where ads/ is a whole huge set of scripts from an existing setup. ads/
 was originally placed on its own domain as it's a version of phpadsnew
 and runs as a server all by itself.
 I moved ads/ to this directory to try to troubleshoot and make things
 clearer. db.inc has these lines:
 
 use something *like* the following:
 
 $oldincpath = ini_get('include_path');
 ini_set('include_path', 'path/to/ads/stuff:etc');
 
 // do your 'ads' requires
 
 ini_set('include_path', $oldincpath);

Unfortunately that's pretty much the same thing we tried first on this.
Even with the include path set to include every directory that contains
a script we need to access, the same error happens. 

 also look into the magic constant __FILE__ and the functions dirname()
 and realpath(). read the manual regard how to use 'include_path'

No, the ideal is to not touch the config.php file or any of the other
required files (otherwise we may just aswell write our own) so those
functions and the __FILE__ constant are not usable. 

Unless i miss your point?

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Re: [PHP] Includes and paths confusion

2006-04-28 Thread Jochem Maas


Nick Wilson wrote:

* and then Jochem Maas declared


Nick Wilson wrote:



...



use something *like* the following:

$oldincpath = ini_get('include_path');
ini_set('include_path', 'path/to/ads/stuff:etc');

// do your 'ads' requires

ini_set('include_path', $oldincpath);



Unfortunately that's pretty much the same thing we tried first on this.
Even with the include path set to include every directory that contains
a script we need to access, the same error happens. 


check directory permission, check the include_path is being set,
check the include path is actually correct (I take it you have a good
understanding how include_path works).





also look into the magic constant __FILE__ and the functions dirname()
and realpath(). read the manual regard how to use 'include_path'



No, the ideal is to not touch the config.php file or any of the other


I would say fix the config file so that it can figure out where everything
is regardless of whether your using a vhost or stuck in subdir of some other
vhost. but thats just me :-)


required files (otherwise we may just aswell write our own) so those
functions and the __FILE__ constant are not usable. 


maybe set a 'auto_prepend' directive via an .htaccess declaration in the
relevant dir?



Unless i miss your point?

thanks



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Re: [PHP] Includes and paths confusion

2006-04-28 Thread Nick Wilson


* and then Jochem Maas declared
 check directory permission, check the include_path is being set,
 check the include path is actually correct (I take it you have a good
 understanding how include_path works).

Good call on dir perms, but yes, they appear to be fine. I *think* i
have a good understanding of include_path but here's the error which
quotes the include path so you/others can tell me for sure:

Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required '../config.inc.php'
(include_path='/var/www/localhost/vhosts/ads.communicontent.com/:/var/www/localhost/vhosts/ads.communicontent.com/admin:/var/www/localhost/vhosts/ads.communicontent.com/libraries:/var/www/localhost/vhosts/ads.communicontent.com/libraries/resources')
in /var/www/localhost/vhosts/ads.communicontent.com/admin/config.php on
line 34

and here's the line that sets it:

ini_set('include_path',
PARTNERS_MAX_PATH.':'.PARTNERS_MAX_PATH.'admin'.':'.PARTNERS_MAX_PATH.'libraries'.':'.PARTNERS_MAX_PATH.'libraries/resources');

and the definition of the constant in there:

// where max is installed (include / )
define(PARTNERS_MAX_PATH,/var/www/localhost/vhosts/ads.communicontent.com/);



 also look into the magic constant __FILE__ and the functions dirname()
 and realpath(). read the manual regard how to use 'include_path'
 No, the ideal is to not touch the config.php file or any of the other
 
 I would say fix the config file so that it can figure out where everything
 is regardless of whether your using a vhost or stuck in subdir of some other
 vhost. but thats just me :-)

Ordinarily i'd agree. We want to be able to update this set of third
party maintained scripts easily though, hence writing a layer to
interact with it rather than hack the core code. 

Hope that all makes sense!

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Re: [PHP] Includes and paths confusion

2006-04-28 Thread Jochem Maas


dirs named in include_path should not have a slash at the end. and don't forget 
to
include the DOT as one of your include pathes e.g.

ini_set('include_path', '.:/the/rest');

can you send the list of requires you do [again] (and state where the files
are actually living on disk)  - I'm on 3 hours of sleep here so help me to help 
you kind of thing.

also try doing it with an 'include' iso a 'require' - might give you a
different [more helpful] error.

Nick Wilson wrote:

* and then Jochem Maas declared


check directory permission, check the include_path is being set,
check the include path is actually correct (I take it you have a good
understanding how include_path works).




I often think along those lines - 5 seconds later I often get a bite in the ass 
;-)



Good call on dir perms, but yes, they appear to be fine. I *think* i
have a good understanding of include_path but here's the error which
quotes the include path so you/others can tell me for sure:

Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required '../config.inc.php'
(include_path='/var/www/localhost/vhosts/ads.communicontent.com/:/var/www/localhost/vhosts/ads.communicontent.com/admin:/var/www/localhost/vhosts/ads.communicontent.com/libraries:/var/www/localhost/vhosts/ads.communicontent.com/libraries/resources')
in /var/www/localhost/vhosts/ads.communicontent.com/admin/config.php on
line 34

and here's the line that sets it:

ini_set('include_path',
PARTNERS_MAX_PATH.':'.PARTNERS_MAX_PATH.'admin'.':'.PARTNERS_MAX_PATH.'libraries'.':'.PARTNERS_MAX_PATH.'libraries/resources');

and the definition of the constant in there:

// where max is installed (include / )
define(PARTNERS_MAX_PATH,/var/www/localhost/vhosts/ads.communicontent.com/);





also look into the magic constant __FILE__ and the functions dirname()
and realpath(). read the manual regard how to use 'include_path'


No, the ideal is to not touch the config.php file or any of the other


I would say fix the config file so that it can figure out where everything
is regardless of whether your using a vhost or stuck in subdir of some other
vhost. but thats just me :-)



Ordinarily i'd agree. We want to be able to update this set of third
party maintained scripts easily though, hence writing a layer to
interact with it rather than hack the core code. 


Hope that all makes sense!

thanks



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Re: [PHP] Setting or Getting Relative Path for PHP Includes

2004-12-21 Thread Richard Lynch

Anthony Baker wrote:

 I often use PHP includes in my files to pull in assets, but I hard code
 the relative path to the root html directory for the sites that I'm
 working on in each file. Example below:

While I happen to think using include_path and $_SERVER is a better
solution to setting up your environment, what you describe as what you
want more closely fits php.ini's auto_prepend_file and nobody has
suggested that yet.

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Re: [PHP] Setting or Getting Relative Path for PHP Includes

2004-12-21 Thread Curt Zirzow

* Thus wrote Anthony Baker:
 Hey Folks,
 
 Hoping someone can aid me with a newbie-ish question.
 
 I often use PHP includes in my files to pull in assets, but I hard code 
 the relative path to the root html directory for the sites that I'm 
 working on in each file. Example below:
 
 ?php 
  $path = '/home/virtual/sitename.com/var/www/html/';  
  //relative path to the root directory
  $inc_path = $path . 'code/inc/'; 
  //path and folder the code includes folder is located
  $copy_path = $path . 'copy/';
  //path and folder the copy is located
 ?
 
 
 I'd like to be able to set the relative path as a global variable from 
 an external file so that I can modify one line of code to change the 
 relative path across the site. This will allow me for easier coding in 
 staging and development environments.

This is a good use of the define() function, what I would generally
do is create a config.php of some sort with:

?php
  define('_BASE_INCLUDE_', '/home/path/');

  define('_INCLUDE_INC_', _BASE_INCLUDE_ . 'code/inc/');
  define('_INCLUDE_CPY_', _BASE_INCLUDE_ . 'code/copy/');
?

And each file that needs this config:

?php
  require_once('config.php'); // having config.php in your
  // php_include_path
?



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[PHP] Setting or Getting Relative Path for PHP Includes

2004-12-20 Thread Anthony Baker

Hey Folks,
Hoping someone can aid me with a newbie-ish question.
I often use PHP includes in my files to pull in assets, but I hard code 
the relative path to the root html directory for the sites that I'm 
working on in each file. Example below:

?php
 $path = '/home/virtual/sitename.com/var/www/html/';
 //relative path to the root directory
 $inc_path = $path . 'code/inc/';   
 //path and folder the code includes folder is located
 $copy_path = $path . 'copy/';  
 //path and folder the copy is located
?
I'd like to be able to set the relative path as a global variable from 
an external file so that I can modify one line of code to change the 
relative path across the site. This will allow me for easier coding in 
staging and development environments.

What's the best way to do so? Can anyone provide a code example?
Either that, or is there a way to call this variable from the server 
itself so that it's automatically -- and correctly -- set?

Thanks,
Anthony
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Re: [PHP] Setting or Getting Relative Path for PHP Includes

2004-12-20 Thread Jason Wong

On Tuesday 21 December 2004 04:41, Anthony Baker wrote:

 Either that, or is there a way to call this variable from the server
 itself so that it's automatically -- and correctly -- set?

Use a combination of one or more items from $_SERVER.

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RE: [PHP] Setting or Getting Relative Path for PHP Includes

2004-12-20 Thread phpninja

I usually use a global variables file included in every page and map
my directories that way.. example, have the file you include on each
page have these line of code in it:

?php

$GLOBALS['images'] = /images/;
$GLOBALS['inc''] = /incl/;
?

then those directories are mapped, all you have to do is use it this
way, I chose images and and include directory for an example

to use it for an image
img src=?= $GLOBALS['images'] ?whatever.jpg

To do includes for a stylesheet or somethin:
link href=?= $GLOBALS['inc'] ?style.css type=text/css rel=stylesheet:

-phpninja

-Original Message-
From: Anthony Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] Setting or Getting Relative Path for PHP Includes

Hey Folks,

Hoping someone can aid me with a newbie-ish question.

I often use PHP includes in my files to pull in assets, but I hard code 
the relative path to the root html directory for the sites that I'm 
working on in each file. Example below:

?php   
  $path = '/home/virtual/sitename.com/var/www/html/';   
  //relative path to the root directory
  $inc_path = $path . 'code/inc/';  
  //path and folder the code includes folder is located
  $copy_path = $path . 'copy/'; 
  //path and folder the copy is located
?


I'd like to be able to set the relative path as a global variable from 
an external file so that I can modify one line of code to change the 
relative path across the site. This will allow me for easier coding in 
staging and development environments.

What's the best way to do so? Can anyone provide a code example?

Either that, or is there a way to call this variable from the server 
itself so that it's automatically -- and correctly -- set?


Thanks,

Anthony

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[PHP] Re: Setting or Getting Relative Path for PHP Includes

2004-12-20 Thread Jason Barnett

As already suggested there are $_SERVER variables that can assist you 
here.  Although if you plan on having an include file that will be 
included by every script in your site you could also use the __FILE__ 
constant.  In your case the following would work:

// main.inc.php, located in /home/virtual/sitename.com/var/www/html/
$path = dirname(__FILE__) . '/';
// now all relative includes with $path prefix should correctly resolve
// to absolute pathnames
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Re: [PHP] Setting or Getting Relative Path for PHP Includes

2004-12-20 Thread Jordi Canals

Can use a directive on your .htaccess:

php_value  include_path   /your/include/path/here

This can also be set on your httd.conf  in a virtual server basis. If
you have access to php.ini is better to set the include there.

Regards,
Jordi.

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:41:06 -0800, Anthony Baker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Folks,
 
 Hoping someone can aid me with a newbie-ish question.
 
 I often use PHP includes in my files to pull in assets, but I hard code
 the relative path to the root html directory for the sites that I'm
 working on in each file. Example below:
 
 ?php
   $path = '/home/virtual/sitename.com/var/www/html/';
   //relative path to the root directory
   $inc_path = $path . 'code/inc/';
   //path and folder the code includes folder is located
   $copy_path = $path . 'copy/';
   //path and folder the copy is located
 ?
 
 I'd like to be able to set the relative path as a global variable from
 an external file so that I can modify one line of code to change the
 relative path across the site. This will allow me for easier coding in
 staging and development environments.
 
 What's the best way to do so? Can anyone provide a code example?
 
 Either that, or is there a way to call this variable from the server
 itself so that it's automatically -- and correctly -- set?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Anthony
 
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[PHP] includes and classes

2004-04-21 Thread dubreuilmedia

Hi

I was wondering about includes and classes. I have a class in which
depending on a member variable, i should load
the proper include, which is really the proper config file for that moment.
Now if i do this in the constructor
i can't seem to be able to use the variables found in my config in the other
member functions.

Any way to set a include 'congig.php' as global for the whole class once
instead of calling include 'congig.php' it in every function?

Thanks for the help,

Olivier Dubreuil
Président
dubreuilmedia
www.dubreuilmedia.com
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[PHP] includes

2004-04-05 Thread Will

Hello all,
I have a problem.  My directory list is similar to this:
root
tmpl
inc
forums
test_forum
messages
test_forum1
.messages

My question is in the test_form and message forums.  How do I do the include
files to read from the tmpl and inc??

I can get the include files to work as long as they are in the root (include
tmpl/header.htm).

I hope I explained it right. :)

~WILL~

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RE: [PHP] includes

2004-04-05 Thread Angelo Zanetti

I think you can do this:

../tmpl/header.htm

try it and let us know!!
hope this helps
Angelo

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] includes


Hello all,
I have a problem.  My directory list is similar to this:
root
tmpl
inc
forums
test_forum
messages
test_forum1
.messages

My question is in the test_form and message forums.  How do I do the include
files to read from the tmpl and inc??

I can get the include files to work as long as they are in the root (include
tmpl/header.htm).

I hope I explained it right. :)

~WILL~

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RE: [PHP] includes

2004-04-05 Thread Hawkes, Richard

If I think I understand you, your 'root' directory is the 'forums' directory,
and you'll probably want to do something like:

   include($_SERVER[DOCUMENT_ROOT] . /../inc/include1.php);

The double-dots take you back a directory.

Is that what you're after?!

Richard

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Subject: [PHP] includes


Hello all,
I have a problem.  My directory list is similar to this:
root
tmpl
inc
forums
test_forum
messages
test_forum1
.messages

My question is in the test_form and message forums.  How do I do the include
files to read from the tmpl and inc??

I can get the include files to work as long as they are in the root (include
tmpl/header.htm).

I hope I explained it right. :)

~WILL~

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Re: [PHP] includes

2004-04-05 Thread Chris Hayes

At 16:47 5-4-04, you wrote:
Hello all,
I have a problem.  My directory list is similar to this:
root
tmpl
inc
forums
test_forum
messages
test_forum1
.messages
My question is in the test_form and message forums.  How do I do the include
files to read from the tmpl and inc??
It is vital to understand that relative paths in the include command always 
are relative to the file as opened in the browser.
Therefore if you open index.php, which includes inc/somefile.php, and 
somefile.php includes anotherfile.php, you may expect it looks in the inc 
directory but in reality it looks in the root directory, because it looks 
relative to index.php.



I can get the include files to work as long as they are in the root (include
tmpl/header.htm).
I hope I explained it right. :)

~WILL~

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Re: [PHP] includes

2004-04-05 Thread Daniel Clark

I had some similar problems !  Here's what I did.

include $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'] . '/includes/_myInclude.php' ;

Putting the DOCUMENT_ROOT ensured I was always pointing to the top
directory of the web pages.

Daniel Clark

I have a problem.  My directory list is similar to this:
 root
 tmpl
 inc
 forums
 test_forum
 messages
 test_forum1
 .messages

My question is in the test_form and message forums.  How do I do the
 include
files to read from the tmpl and inc??

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Re: [PHP] includes

2004-04-05 Thread Richard Harb

Monday, April 5, 2004, 4:47:52 PM, you wrote:

 Hello all,
 I have a problem.  My directory list is similar to this:
root
 tmpl
 inc
 forums

snipped

 My question is in the test_form and message forums.  How do I do the include
 files to read from the tmpl and inc??

 I can get the include files to work as long as they are in the root (include
 tmpl/header.htm).

snipped

Check the online manual:
http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.dirname.php

and read the comments (bottom first and up ..)
good info there on that very subject.

Richard

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RE: [PHP] Re: PHP Includes and Echoes in Head Sections and Search Engines

2004-01-16 Thread Ford, Mike [LSS]

On 15 January 2004 22:39, Luke wrote:

 ? Holy cow, this gets simpler all the time. Pretty soon, there'll be
 ? nothing left on my page but PHP includes and echo functions! ?
 ? Does this cut down on a website's file size? In other
 words, are the php
 ? includes effectively inactive when no one's viewing your main pages,
 ? leaving them empty of the included pages?
 
 Well in a way yes, it wont cut down the transfer bandwitdth,
 but because you
 are reusing the same files over again, this will take up less
 disk space on
 your
 server. But the same amount of data is transferred when a
 user views the
 page (as you can see from view-source)
 
 ? But suppose there's a certain page where I don't want the
 style sheet in
 ? the middle - the one I named MIDDLE. Is there a way to mark
 it in the
 ? include page, then instruct the main page to either not import it or
 ? replace it with nothing ()?
 
 youd have to use a variable, so in the main page do the following
 
 if($pagetoshow == 'withoutmiddle'){
 $includemiddle = FALSE;
 }else{
 $includemiddle = TRUE; //(or false depending)
 }

Euch! Very long-winded and inefficient.  Much better is:

   $includemiddle = $pagetoshow!='withoutmiddle';

 
 and in the include do this:
 
 if($includemiddle == TRUE){

Likewise -- this can be written more efficiently and more readbly as simply:

   if ($includemiddle)

(Since $includemiddle will be TRUE or FALSE, you can use it directly in the
if () -- retrieving its value and  comparing it against TRUE gives TRUE if
$includemiddle is, er, TRUE, and FALSE if it's FALSE, so doing the
comparison just wastes CPU time to reproduce the value you first thought
of.)

Cheers!

Mike

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RE: [PHP] Re: PHP Includes and Echoes (Sorry; read this post firs t!)

2004-01-16 Thread Ford, Mike [LSS]

On 16 January 2004 00:30, Freedomware wrote:

 I should have played with this some more before I posted more
 questions. After fixing an error on the included page, I replaced
 every instance of na/a1 on both pages with a1. That seemed to fix
 everything; the first style sheet comes through, but the second one
 is blocked - 
 and I don't
 see any error messages.
 
 I have a couple more questions, though. First, how do I turn this
 exclude function off on a page where I do NOT want to ban
 style sheet na/a1?
 
 I tried deleting the following on the main page:
 
 if($pagetoshow == 'withouta1'){
  $includea1 = FALSE;
 }else{
  $includeaa1 = TRUE; //(or false depending)
 }
 
 Then I changed TRUE and FALSE in various combinations, but it
 didn't work.

Simple -- if you have a page where you want a1 to be unconditionally included, set the 
variable to TRUE unconditionally:

  $includea1 = TRUE;

Similarly, if you want it to be unconditionally blocked:

  $includea1 = FALSE;

The include file will test the value of $includea1 as before, and include it or not as 
you've specified.

Cheers!

Mike

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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Includes and Echoes (From the top...)

2004-01-16 Thread Freedomware

Thanks for all the tips. It's getting generally getting clearer, but I'm 
a little confused somewhere.

Can I give you a better explanation of what I'm trying to do, along with 
my latest code?

The pages on this site focus on various nations and states, with lots of 
links like this:

[LOCAL] ../world/na/us/wy/index.php (World/North America/United 
States/Wyoming)

[REMOTE] www.politix.org/world/na/us/wy/

Each page will feature several prominent instances of the name of a 
country or state, which I can facilitate by using 'MyName', such as the 
title (MyName = Canada, or Wyoming), along with several instances of its 
abbreviation, which is used in several URLs and in the top banner; for 
example, this is the top banner for Alaska: img 
src=../images/banners/ak.gif width=200 height=150 alt= /

Below is the entire head section from the main page. Notice that it's 
mostly a series of variable statements ('MyName', 'MyCountry', etc.), 
followed by an included page (head), which is essentially the REAL head 
section.

I inserted one of the functions you suggested - $includea1 = TRUE; - 
after the include, but I'm sure I did it wrong.

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en
head
?php
$myname = 'MyName';
$mynickname = 'MyNickname';
$mycontinent = 'North America';
$mycountry = 'United States';
$mystate = 'MyState';
$postcode = 'wy';
$linkcontinent = '/na';
$linkcountry = '/us';
$linkstate = '/wy';
$periods = '../../../../';
$linkwebring = '/world/na/us/wy/';
include (../../../../includes/head.php);
$includea1 = TRUE;
?
/head

* * * * * * * * * *

And here's the included page:

?php
$todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
echo 'titleFreedomware gt; ' . $statename . '/title';
echo 'meta name=description content=' . $statename . ' versus 
Microsoft /';
echo 'meta name=keywords content=' . $statename . ' versus 
Microsoft /';
echo 'meta name=mssmarttagspreventparsing content=true /';
echo 'meta http-equiv=content-Type content=text/html; 
charset=iso-8859-1 /';
echo 'meta name=author content=David Blomstrom /';
echo 'script src=' . $periods . 'js/swapclass.js 
type=text/javascript/script';
echo 'script src=' . $periods . 'js/ss.js 
type=text/javascript/script';
echo 'script language=JavaScript type=text/JavaScript
!--
function MM_openBrWindow(theURL,winName,features) { //v2.0
  window.open(theURL,winName,features);
}
//--
/script';
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
if ($includea1) echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css' . $linkcontinent 
. '/a1.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /';
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/north.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/themes/peace.css rel=alternate 
stylesheet type=text/css title=Peace /';
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/themes/war.css rel=alternate 
stylesheet type=text/css title=War /';
echo 'link rel=SHORTCUT ICON href=../../../../us/aaa/favicon.ico /'
?

Note that two of my style sheets are named css/a1.css and css/na/a1.css 
(na is short for North America). Maybe I should rename the second a1 to 
avoid confusion, though I'd prefer to tackle it head on and learn how to 
deal with this situation. (Does $includea1 = TRUE; refer to css/a1.css 
or css/na/a1.css?)

So here's what I have at present:

* * * * * * * * * *

The first line denotes style sheet css/a1.css, preceded by . $periods 
., which can be replaced by ../../ or ../../../, depending on the 
folder level:

echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';

* * * * * * * * * *

The second line denotes style sheet css/na/a1.css, preceded by if 
($includea1), which I'm probably using incorrectly:

if ($includea1) echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css' . $linkcontinent 
. '/a1.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /';

Note, also, that I inserted . $linkcontinent ., which will be replaced 
by na/ (North America) on this particular main page.

In summary, it looks like I need to fix two things:

MAIN PAGE

$linkwebring = '/world/na/us/wy/';
include (../../../../includes/head.php);
$includea1 = TRUE;
?
/head
INCLUDED PAGE

echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
if ($includea1) echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css' . $linkcontinent 
. '/a1.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /';
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/north.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';

* * * * * * * * * *

I hope that isn't too confusing. It's actually becoming a lot clearer 
for me; I'm just temporarily confused.

Thanks!

* * * * * * * * * *

I wrote,

 ? Holy cow, this gets simpler all the time.

 ? But suppose there's a certain page where I don't want the
 style sheet in
 ? the middle - the one I named MIDDLE. Is there a way to mark
 it in the
 ? include page, then instruct the main page to either not import it or
 ? replace it with nothing ()?
On 15 January 2004 22:39, Luke wrote:

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP Includes and Echoes (From the top...)

2004-01-16 Thread Ford, Mike [LSS]

On 16 January 2004 13:54, Freedomware wrote:

 Thanks for all the tips. It's getting generally getting
 clearer, but I'm
 a little confused somewhere.

[SNIP] 

 I inserted one of the functions you suggested - $includea1 = TRUE; -
 after the include, but I'm sure I did it wrong.

Just like before -- put it *before* the include, otherwise the included file
won't see it.

[SNIP]

 //--
 /script';
 echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/a1.css rel=stylesheet
 type=text/css /'; if ($includea1) echo 'link href=' . $periods .
 'css' . $linkcontinent . '/a1.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css
 /'; 
 echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/north.css rel=stylesheet
 type=text/css /'; echo 'link href=' . $periods .
 'css/themes/peace.css rel=alternate stylesheet type=text/css
 title=Peace /'; 
 echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/themes/war.css rel=alternate
 stylesheet type=text/css title=War /';
 echo 'link rel=SHORTCUT ICON
 href=../../../../us/aaa/favicon.ico /'
  
 
 Note that two of my style sheets are named css/a1.css and
 css/na/a1.css (na is short for North America). Maybe I should rename
 the 
 second a1 to
 avoid confusion, though I'd prefer to tackle it head on and
 learn how to
 deal with this situation. (Does $includea1 = TRUE; refer to css/a1.css
 or css/na/a1.css?)

Well, which one is controlled by the if ($includea1) test?

 
 So here's what I have at present:
 

Apart from the above points, looks ok for what you're trying to do.  Keep
plugging away and you'll get there -- a couple of years ago I was a complete
PHP beginner (although an experienced programmer), and now I have several
thousand lines of code in production use!

Cheers!

Mike

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RE: [PHP] Can you recommend a good PHP includes tutorial?

2004-01-16 Thread Chris W. Parker

Freedomware mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:17 AM said:

 Wow, that is a lot simpler than I imagined. Thanks for the tip!

Imagined? What did the book tell you to do?



Chris.

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Re: [PHP] Variable PHP Includes - Is there such a thing?

2004-01-15 Thread Rory McKinley

On 14 Jan 2004 at 21:16, Freedomware wrote:

 Suppose you design a standard banner for the top of your web pages and 
 use an include to insert it into every page on your site, like this:
 
 ?php
 include (../../../../includes/header.php);
 ?
 
 But you later decide you'd like to change just one element on each page. 
 For example, you might design a standard image banner, followed by a 
 title and subtitle for each page, but you want to change the title to 
 Alaska, Nebraska or Wyoming on each page.
 
 Is there a way to do this with PHP? If it has a name, I can search for 
 information online, but I don't even know what to call it.
 
 I've played with something of this nature in Dreamweaver. You can design 
 a template that turns out carbon copies of a page, but single out 
 certain items by enclosing them with @@, which are somehow changed on 
 individual pages, or something like that. I can't remember what it's 
 called at the moment.
 
 Another strategy would be to use a PHP include to insert an element on 
 different pages, then modify each element with a unique style sheet on 
 each page.
 
 But I just wondered if PHP offers additional possibilities for similar 
 experiments.
 
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Hi 

A possible option  could be something like  this 

{calling_template.php}

?php
/*State name does not have to be set statically, can be set from SQL query 
etc*/

$statename = 'Alaska';

include('/path/header.inc');

?

{header.inc}

?php

echo Welcome to the great state of .$statename.now go home!

?

That way you can put whatever you want as the statenameat the top of your pages, and 
the header willalways reflect it. You could also do something similar with objects 
e.g. 

?php

include('header.inc');

this_page_head = new header('Alaska')

?

if you are that way inclined.

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Re: [PHP] Variable PHP Includes - Is there such a thing?

(Oops - I replied by e-mail; guess I should have posted my response to 
the list.)

--- Rory McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A possible option  could be something like  this

 {calling_template.php}

 ?php
/*State name does not have to be set statically,
 can be set from SQL query
 etc*/
I think I understand what you're saying. I'm just getting started with 
PHP and haven't touched MySQL yet, but I can see you're setting up a 
database, or query, and...

 That way you can put whatever you want as the
 statenameat the top of your pages, and
 the header willalways reflect it.
Then you'd put some sort of code in the head section of each page that 
would draw on the system you set up to translate the codes for each page.

I probably didn't work it right, but I think I get the general idea. 
I'll hang on to the code you gave me and play with it just as quick as I 
can learn more about this stuff.

One question, is the example you gave me a pure PHP function, or does it 
indeed involve MySQL, too?

Thanks!

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Re: [PHP] Variable PHP Includes - Is there such a thing?

2004-01-15 Thread Rory McKinley

On 14 Jan 2004 at 23:16, David Blomstrom wrote:

 --- Rory McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  A possible option  could be something like  this 
  
  {calling_template.php}
  
  ?php
  /*State name does not have to be set statically,
  can be set from SQL query 
  etc*/
 
 I think I understand what you're saying. I'm just
 getting started with PHP and haven't touched MySQL
 yet, but I can see you're setting up a database, or
 query, and...
 
  That way you can put whatever you want as the
  statenameat the top of your pages, and 
  the header willalways reflect it.
 
 Then you'd put some sort of code in the head section
 of each page that would draw on the system you set up
 to translate the codes for each page.
 
 I probably didn't work it right, but I think I get the
 general idea. I'll hang on to the code you gave me and
 play with it just as quick as I can learn more about
 this stuff.
 
 One question, is the example you gave me a pure PHP
 function, or does it indeed involve MySQL, too?
 
 Thanks!
 
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Hi David

You do not need to use a query - if you had a database you could retrieve the state 
names from there and perhaps save on typing. The code that I gave you does not use a 
MySQL query at all, although I perhaps could have explained it better.

Basically, the situation is like this :

If you have two scripts - the main page and the header include file and you include 
the 
header script in the main page script, there are no issues of variable scope i.e. all 
variables within the included script are visible to the including script and vice 
versa. 

Therefore if you tell the header script to echo a variable and this variable is 
defined in 
the main page script instead of the header script, the header script will have access 
to 
this variable. From your part, all you have to be willing to do is set the variable on 
each 
main page.

I hope this has clarified matters somewhat and not made things worse.


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Re: [PHP] Variable PHP Includes - Is there such a thing?

Rory McKinley wrote:
I hope this has clarified matters somewhat and not made things worse.

Absolutely; the only thing that has made matters worse so far is the 
book Teach Yourself PHP, MySQL and Apache, which had me thinking 
making PHP includes was going to be a minor wrestling match. In fact, 
they were so simple even I can understand them, and the information you 
just gave me is more or less the vision I had in my mind some time ago, 
before I even heard of PHP.

Thanks for the tips!

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Re: [PHP] Variable PHP Includes - Is there such a thing?

2004-01-15 Thread Rory McKinley

On 15 Jan 2004 at 0:21, Freedomware wrote:

 Rory McKinley wrote:
  
  I hope this has clarified matters somewhat and not made things worse.
  
 
 Absolutely; the only thing that has made matters worse so far is the 
 book Teach Yourself PHP, MySQL and Apache, which had me thinking 
 making PHP includes was going to be a minor wrestling match. In fact, 
 they were so simple even I can understand them, and the information you 
 just gave me is more or less the vision I had in my mind some time ago, 
 before I even heard of PHP.
 
 Thanks for the tips!
 
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Glad to have helped.

I taught myself from a book called PHP and MySQL Web Development by Welling  
Thompson (I got it about 18 months ago) I found it quite understandable andthey 
probably have a new version out by now - perhaps that book will serve you better!



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Re: [PHP] PHP Includes versus sloppy Dreamweaver code and split elements

2004-01-15 Thread Marek Kilimajer

Freedomware wrote:

My first question is really trivial, but I noticed that Dreamweaver 
likes to display my PHP includes code like this...

   ?php
include (../../../../includes/state/themes.php);
?
When I do a search and replace function, it often jumps onto another 
element's line, like this:

/table   ?php
include (../../../../includes/state/themes.php);
?
I changed the code to this:

?php include (../../../../includes/state/themes.php); ?

and it seems to work just fine. But I just wondered if there's some 
potential problem or convention that I should be aware of.

No, white space is ignored in both html and php.

* * * * * * * * * *

I also wondered if it's OK to include just a portion of another element, 
like a table or layer, in a PHP include, like this:

body
div id=main
table
  tr
tdFirst Row/td
  /tr
?php include (../../../../includes/bottom.php); ?
/body
(The include would include the remainder of the table and div main's 
closing tag, /div)

Again, I tried it, and it seems to work just fine. I just wondered if 
there's something I should be warned about.
Sure you can, but I would not open a tag in one file, and close the tag 
in another. This makes code very unreadable, the errors are hard to find 
and also the code is not reusable.


Thanks!

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[PHP] PHP Includes and Echoes in Head Sections and Search Engines

I'm having a blast with PHP includes and echo functions; I never dreamed 
they could be so simple and effective. But I have a couple questions 
relating to head sections and search engines.

Consider the following html code:

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en
head
?php include (../../../../includes/state/head.php); ?
meta name=mssmarttagspreventparsing content=true /
?php include (../../../../includes/javascript.php); ?
?php include (../../../../includes/stylesheets.php); ?
?php
$statename = 'Alaska';
$postcode = 'ak';
$linkcode = 'world/na/us/ak';
?
/head
body

Welcome to ?php echo $statename ?!

* * * * * * * * * *

And here's the html code from the include named head.php:

?php
$todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
?
titleFreedomware gt; ?php echo $statename ?/title
meta name=description content=?php echo $statename ? versus 
Microsoft /
meta name=keywords content=Alaska, Microsoft, Microshaft, Linux, 
Bill Gates, corporate corruption /

* * * * * * * * * *

I discovered that includes will apparently work just about anywhere, but 
echo functions apparently don't work with the title tag and meta tags; 
at least, I can't see the word Alaska in those locations when I click 
View Source in my browser.

So I wondered if there IS a way to make echo functions work in meta tags.

Also, do you know if text derived from includes causes any problems with 
search engines? My guess is no, because I can see the included words 
just fine when I click View Source.

Along similar lines, I wondered if there might be potential pitfalls if 
you import links to style sheets and javascripts as includes. Everything 
seems to work just fine so far.

Thanks.

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Re: [PHP] PHP Includes and Echoes in Head Sections and Search Engines

2004-01-15 Thread CPT John W. Holmes

From: Freedomware [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I discovered that includes will apparently work just about anywhere, but
 echo functions apparently don't work with the title tag and meta tags;
 at least, I can't see the word Alaska in those locations when I click
 View Source in my browser.

Look back over your code and you'll realize you set $statename _AFTER_ you
include your file. So when the include file is run, $statename doesn't
have a value. :)

 Also, do you know if text derived from includes causes any problems with
 search engines? My guess is no, because I can see the included words
 just fine when I click View Source.

No, they won't. Search engines, just like browsers, only see the RESULT of
your PHP code. So as long as the result is properly formatted HTML and META
tags, you're fine.

---John Holmes...

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RE: [PHP] PHP Includes and Echoes in Head Sections and Search Engines

2004-01-15 Thread Arthur Pelkey

You are defining the vars after the header/title has already been
processed, put it before the head.php, and it should work

-Original Message-
From: Freedomware [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] PHP Includes and Echoes in Head Sections and Search
Engines

I'm having a blast with PHP includes and echo functions; I never dreamed

they could be so simple and effective. But I have a couple questions 
relating to head sections and search engines.

Consider the following html code:

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en
head
?php include (../../../../includes/state/head.php); ?
meta name=mssmarttagspreventparsing content=true /
?php include (../../../../includes/javascript.php); ?
?php include (../../../../includes/stylesheets.php); ?
?php
$statename = 'Alaska';
$postcode = 'ak';
$linkcode = 'world/na/us/ak';
?
/head
body

Welcome to ?php echo $statename ?!

* * * * * * * * * *

And here's the html code from the include named head.php:

?php
$todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
?
titleFreedomware gt; ?php echo $statename ?/title
meta name=description content=?php echo $statename ? versus 
Microsoft /
meta name=keywords content=Alaska, Microsoft, Microshaft, Linux, 
Bill Gates, corporate corruption /

* * * * * * * * * *

I discovered that includes will apparently work just about anywhere, but

echo functions apparently don't work with the title tag and meta tags;

at least, I can't see the word Alaska in those locations when I click 
View Source in my browser.

So I wondered if there IS a way to make echo functions work in meta
tags.

Also, do you know if text derived from includes causes any problems with

search engines? My guess is no, because I can see the included words 
just fine when I click View Source.

Along similar lines, I wondered if there might be potential pitfalls if 
you import links to style sheets and javascripts as includes. Everything

seems to work just fine so far.

Thanks.

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[PHP] Re: PHP Includes and Echoes in Head Sections and Search Engines

2004-01-15 Thread Luke

hi

Very simple problems, good to see ur getting the hang of it :)
the first is, you have defined your variables after you include the page, so
that the echo is outputting a blank variable...

so instead of:

?php include (../../../../includes/state/head.php); ?
meta name=mssmarttagspreventparsing content=true /
?php include (../../../../includes/javascript.php); ?
?php include (../../../../includes/stylesheets.php); ?
?php
$statename = 'Alaska';
$postcode = 'ak';
$linkcode = 'world/na/us/ak';
?

make it

?php
$statename = 'Alaska';
$postcode = 'ak';
$linkcode = 'world/na/us/ak';
php include (../../../../includes/state/head.php);
echo 'meta name=mssmarttagspreventparsing content=true /';
include (../../../../includes/javascript.php);
include (../../../../includes/stylesheets.php);
\?

i just changed the opening and closing tags a little (you didnt need so
many) but the main change is, now the variables come before the included
file, so that the include file can access those variables too.

echo's will work anywhere inside a ?php tag so, it will always output
something to the screen

no problems with search engines, if you use the meta tags and stuff u
usually use, itll work fine

javascript, stylesheets and stuff... the only thing to remember is all the
stylesheet files, and javascript files are relative to the final page
location, not to the include file location, but other than that its the same
as normal

hope that clears it up a bit :)

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Freedomware [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I'm having a blast with PHP includes and echo functions; I never dreamed
 they could be so simple and effective. But I have a couple questions
 relating to head sections and search engines.

 Consider the following html code:

 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
 html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en
 head
 ?php include (../../../../includes/state/head.php); ?
 meta name=mssmarttagspreventparsing content=true /
 ?php include (../../../../includes/javascript.php); ?
 ?php include (../../../../includes/stylesheets.php); ?
 ?php
 $statename = 'Alaska';
 $postcode = 'ak';
 $linkcode = 'world/na/us/ak';
 ?
 /head
 body

 Welcome to ?php echo $statename ?!

 * * * * * * * * * *

 And here's the html code from the include named head.php:

 ?php
 $todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
 ?
 titleFreedomware gt; ?php echo $statename ?/title
 meta name=description content=?php echo $statename ? versus
 Microsoft /
 meta name=keywords content=Alaska, Microsoft, Microshaft, Linux,
 Bill Gates, corporate corruption /

 * * * * * * * * * *

 I discovered that includes will apparently work just about anywhere, but
 echo functions apparently don't work with the title tag and meta tags;
 at least, I can't see the word Alaska in those locations when I click
 View Source in my browser.

 So I wondered if there IS a way to make echo functions work in meta tags.

 Also, do you know if text derived from includes causes any problems with
 search engines? My guess is no, because I can see the included words
 just fine when I click View Source.

 Along similar lines, I wondered if there might be potential pitfalls if
 you import links to style sheets and javascripts as includes. Everything
 seems to work just fine so far.

 Thanks.

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[PHP] Re: PHP Includes and Echoes in Head Sections and Search Engines

i just changed the opening and closing tags a little (you didnt need so
many) but the main change is, now the variables come before the included
file, so that the include file can access those variables too.
Holy cow, this gets simpler all the time. Pretty soon, there'll be 
nothing left on my page but PHP includes and echo functions!

Does this cut down on a website's file size? In other words, are the php 
includes effectively inactive when no one's viewing your main pages, 
leaving them empty of the included pages?

Here's another question. I'm replacing the ../ URL prefixes with the 
echo name $periods, so I can use these includes in pages on several 
levels, such as geobop/one and geobop/one/two, simply replacing $periods 
with ../../ or ../../../.

Below is some code from my include page:

link href=?php echo $periods ?css/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /
link href=?php echo $periods ?css/MIDDLE.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /
link href=?php echo $periods ?css/na/rockies.css rel=stylesheet 
 type=text/css /

But suppose there's a certain page where I don't want the style sheet in 
the middle - the one I named MIDDLE. Is there a way to mark it in the 
include page, then instruct the main page to either not import it or 
replace it with nothing ()?

Thanks.

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[PHP] Re: PHP Includes and Echoes in Head Sections and Search Engines

2004-01-15 Thread Luke


? Holy cow, this gets simpler all the time. Pretty soon, there'll be
? nothing left on my page but PHP includes and echo functions!
?
? Does this cut down on a website's file size? In other words, are the php
? includes effectively inactive when no one's viewing your main pages,
? leaving them empty of the included pages?

Well in a way yes, it wont cut down the transfer bandwitdth, but because you
are reusing the same files over again, this will take up less disk space on
your
server. But the same amount of data is transferred when a user views the
page (as you can see from view-source)

? But suppose there's a certain page where I don't want the style sheet in
? the middle - the one I named MIDDLE. Is there a way to mark it in the
? include page, then instruct the main page to either not import it or
? replace it with nothing ()?

youd have to use a variable, so in the main page do the following

if($pagetoshow == 'withoutmiddle'){
$includemiddle = FALSE;
}else{
$includemiddle = TRUE; //(or false depending)
}

and in the include do this:

if($includemiddle == TRUE){
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/MIDDLE.css rel=stylesheet
type=text/css /';
}


just a side point, you may be better of doing your html code with echos, as
you have a few variables in there.. eg
?php
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/a1.css rel=stylesheet
type=text/css /';

if($includemiddle == TRUE){
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/MIDDLE.css rel=stylesheet
type=text/css /';
}
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/rockies.css rel=stylesheet
type=text/css /';
?

and if you are echoing a variable, quotes around it arent needed

you can just use
echo $variable;
instead of
echo $variable;

Luke

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[PHP] Re: PHP Includes and Echoes in Head Sections and Search Engines

I wrote:

? But suppose there's a certain page where I don't want the style sheet in
? the middle - the one I named MIDDLE. Is there a way to mark it in the
? include page, then instruct the main page to either not import it or
? replace it with nothing ()?


Luke wrote:

youd have to use a variable, so in the main page do the following

if($pagetoshow == 'withoutmiddle'){
$includemiddle = FALSE;
}else{
$includemiddle = TRUE; //(or false depending)
}
and in the include do this:

if($includemiddle == TRUE){
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/MIDDLE.css rel=stylesheet
type=text/css /';
}




I think I just about have it. But I replaced the middle in both our 
examples with the page I'm REALLY trying to exclude - na/a1.

Most pages on my site will have the following two style sheets:

link href=../../../../css/a1.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /
link href=../../../../css/na/a1.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css  /
But some will only have the first one:

link href=../../../../css/a1.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /



So I applied your example to the head section of my main page and came 
up with this:

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en
head
?php
$statename = 'Alaska';
$postcode = 'ak';
$linkcode = 'world/na/us/ak';
$periods = '../../../../';
include (../../../../includes/state/head.php);

if($pagetoshow == 'withoutna/a1'){
$includena/a1 = FALSE;
}else{
$includeana/a1 = TRUE; //(or false depending)
}
?



* * * * * * * * * *

And below is all the code from the included page, head.php:

?php
$todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
if($includeana/a1 == TRUE){
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/a1.css rel=stylesheet
type=text/css /';
}
echo 'titleFreedomware gt; $statename/title';
echo 'meta name=description content=ZXZX versus Microsoft /';
echo 'script src=' . $periods . 'js/swapclass.js 
type=text/javascript/script';

echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
if($includena/a1 == TRUE){
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
}
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/rockies.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
?

I haven't been able to exclude na/a1 yet, but everything in the included 
page was working right up until about the end, when I did something that 
knocked it out of action.

Also, I got a division by zero error. Is that something that's caused 
by a mistake I made in writing code? I read a couple articles online 
that suggested it's a problem with Apache.

Finally, is there a way to validate php, similar to validating pages 
for html and css?



and if you are echoing a variable, quotes around it arent needed

you can just use
echo $variable;
instead of
echo $variable;
I got a little confused; did I do it right in the example above?

Thanks!

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[PHP] Re: PHP Includes and Echoes in Head Sections and Search Engines

Oops, I spotted some big errors in my included page already. Here's the 
new page:

?php
$todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
echo 'titleFreedomware gt; $statename/title';
echo 'meta name=description content=ZXZX versus Microsoft /';
echo 'script src=' . $periods . 'js/swapclass.js 
type=text/javascript/script';
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
if($includena/a1 == TRUE){
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
}
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/rockies.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
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[PHP] Re: PHP Includes and Echoes (Sorry; read this post first!)

I should have played with this some more before I posted more questions. 
After fixing an error on the included page, I replaced every instance of 
na/a1 on both pages with a1. That seemed to fix everything; the first 
style sheet comes through, but the second one is blocked - and I don't 
see any error messages.

I have a couple more questions, though. First, how do I turn this 
exclude function off on a page where I do NOT want to ban style sheet na/a1?

I tried deleting the following on the main page:

if($pagetoshow == 'withouta1'){
$includea1 = FALSE;
}else{
$includeaa1 = TRUE; //(or false depending)
}
Then I changed TRUE and FALSE in various combinations, but it didn't work.

Next, what am I doing wrong with $statename, in the example below? I 
tried quotes (), single quotes ('') and no quotes at all.

?php
$todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
echo 'titleFreedomware gt; $statename/title';
echo 'meta name=description content=ZXZX versus Microsoft /';
echo 'script src=' . $periods . 'js/swapclass.js 
type=text/javascript/script';



BELOW IS THE FINAL VERSION:

?php
$todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
echo 'titleFreedomware gt; $statename/title';
echo 'meta name=description content=ZXZX versus Microsoft /';
echo 'script src=' . $periods . 'js/swapclass.js
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en
head
?php
$statename = 'Alaska';
$postcode = 'ak';
$linkcode = 'world/na/us/ak';
$periods = '../../../../';
include (../../../../includes/state/head.php);

if($pagetoshow == 'withouta1'){
$includea1 = FALSE;
}else{
$includeaa1 = TRUE; //(or false depending)
}
?
/head


INCLUDED PAGE

?php
$todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
echo 'titleFreedomware gt; $statename/title';
echo 'meta name=description content=ZXZX versus Microsoft /';
echo 'script src=' . $periods . 'js/swapclass.js 
type=text/javascript/script';
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
if($includea1 == TRUE){
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
}
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/rockies.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
?

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[PHP] Re: PHP Includes and Echoes (Sorry; read this post first!)

Sheez, I spotted my error regarding $statename. I changed it to the 
following, and it fixed that problem.

?php
$todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
echo 'titleFreedomware gt; ' . $statename . '/title';
echo 'meta name=description content=ZXZX versus Microsoft /';
echo 'script src=' . $periods . 'js/swapclass.js 
type=text/javascript/script';
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
if($includea1 == TRUE){
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/a1.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
}
echo 'link href=' . $periods . 'css/na/rockies.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /';
?

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[PHP] Can you recommend a good PHP includes tutorial?

I thought this would be the easiest thing to learn, but I'm striking out 
right and left. I bought a book about PHP, but the includes examples 
don't work for me at all. I searched several forums and www.php.net, but 
it's hard to even zero in on a good tutorial.

I think part of the problem is that the word include apparently covers 
a lot of territory.

I'm looking for a plain vanilla equivalent to Microsoft's include 
pages. For example, suppose I want to have the same title and image at 
the top of every page on my website. I could put the title and image on 
a separate page, then use an include to insert it on all the other pages.

It might be especially nice to find an online working example that could 
be downloaded and picked apart.

Thanks.

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RE: [PHP] Can you recommend a good PHP includes tutorial?

2004-01-14 Thread Jay Blanchard

[snip]
I thought this would be the easiest thing to learn, but I'm striking out

right and left. I bought a book about PHP, but the includes examples 
don't work for me at all. I searched several forums and www.php.net, but

it's hard to even zero in on a good tutorial.
[/snip]

http://www.php.net/include

There is no tutorial for this because it is painfully simple to use. 

Create toBeIncluded.php --

?php
$todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
?

h1Today is ?php echo $todayDate; ?/h1

You're all done!

Now create myIncluded.php --

html
head/head
body
h1Welcome!/h1
?php

inlclude(toBeIncluded.php);

?
/body
/html

All done! Now just place these files in the same directory in your web
server and load myIncluded.php from the browser. You may have to pay
close attention to the paths of the files, but it is pretty simple
really.

HTH!

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[PHP] Re: Can you recommend a good PHP includes tutorial?

Yikes, scratch my last post!

I think I stumbled over the answer just after I posted it.

Freedomware wrote:

I thought this would be the easiest thing to learn, but I'm striking out 
right and left. I bought a book about PHP, but the includes examples 
don't work for me at all. I searched several forums and www.php.net, but 
it's hard to even zero in on a good tutorial.

I think part of the problem is that the word include apparently covers 
a lot of territory.

I'm looking for a plain vanilla equivalent to Microsoft's include 
pages. For example, suppose I want to have the same title and image at 
the top of every page on my website. I could put the title and image on 
a separate page, then use an include to insert it on all the other pages.

It might be especially nice to find an online working example that could 
be downloaded and picked apart.

Thanks.
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Re: [PHP] Can you recommend a good PHP includes tutorial?

Wow, that is a lot simpler than I imagined. Thanks for the tip!

Jay Blanchard wrote:

[snip]
I thought this would be the easiest thing to learn, but I'm striking out
right and left. I bought a book about PHP, but the includes examples 
don't work for me at all. I searched several forums and www.php.net, but

it's hard to even zero in on a good tutorial.
[/snip]
http://www.php.net/include

There is no tutorial for this because it is painfully simple to use. 

Create toBeIncluded.php --

?php
$todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
?
h1Today is ?php echo $todayDate; ?/h1

You're all done!

Now create myIncluded.php --

html
head/head
body
h1Welcome!/h1
?php
inlclude(toBeIncluded.php);

?
/body
/html
All done! Now just place these files in the same directory in your web
server and load myIncluded.php from the browser. You may have to pay
close attention to the paths of the files, but it is pretty simple
really.
HTH!
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Re: [PHP] Can you recommend a good PHP includes tutorial?

2004-01-14 Thread Steve Edberg

And, you can even do this automatically using the auto_prepend_file 
and auto_append_file settings:

	http://us3.php.net/manual/en/configuration.directives.php

These can be set in your Apache config file, php.ini or .htaccess, so 
you can control what files are used down to the lowest subdirectory 
level.

Of course, if you need to include() in the middle of a page, or 
conditionally include files, these won't work -

	steve

At 5:16 AM -0800 1/14/04, Freedomware wrote:
Wow, that is a lot simpler than I imagined. Thanks for the tip!

Jay Blanchard wrote:

[snip]
I thought this would be the easiest thing to learn, but I'm striking out
right and left. I bought a book about PHP, but the includes 
examples don't work for me at all. I searched several forums and 
www.php.net, but

it's hard to even zero in on a good tutorial.
[/snip]
http://www.php.net/include

There is no tutorial for this because it is painfully simple to use.
Create toBeIncluded.php --
?php
$todayDate = date(m-d-Y);
?
h1Today is ?php echo $todayDate; ?/h1

You're all done!

Now create myIncluded.php --

html
head/head
body
h1Welcome!/h1
?php
inlclude(toBeIncluded.php);

?
/body
/html
All done! Now just place these files in the same directory in your web
server and load myIncluded.php from the browser. You may have to pay
close attention to the paths of the files, but it is pretty simple
really.
HTH!
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