Portable RPM for qmail
I am probably going to start a flame war with this but I have created a patch for qmail 1.03 which removes the need for compiled in user and group id's. The patch works by replacing the auto_uida variables with #defines which call functions to return the correct uid. Once the user id has been looked up it is remembered should the same instance try to look it up again. I have not measured the performance of this but for a low volume server I would imagine that is would be negligible. With this patch in place it is possible to build an RPM which can be safely installed without the need to relink or binary edit and files. I am happy to release the patch and the SRPM if is anyone is interested. My second question is about the licence for qmail. Despite all my looking I can't find it. Can someone point me to the licence or summarise what I can do with a binary RPM. Thanks. John. -- Information Technology Innovation Group Swinburne University. Melbourne, Australia http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn
RE: Portable RPM for qmail
Title: RE: Portable RPM for qmail 1. That HAS been done before, Bruce Guenter has created a similar patch 2. Q-Mail's license does NOT allow distribution of binary packages including Q-Mail. P.S. Please forgive the signature and HTML that this e-mail has in it, unfortunately due to the network within which I work (Microsoft driven of course!) I can't get rid of the signature or the HTML - not my choice! -Original Message- From: John Newbigin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2001 4:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Portable RPM for qmail I am probably going to start a flame war with this but I have created a patch for qmail 1.03 which removes the need for compiled in user and group id's. The patch works by replacing the auto_uida variables with #defines which call functions to return the correct uid. Once the user id has been looked up it is remembered should the same instance try to look it up again. I have not measured the performance of this but for a low volume server I would imagine that is would be negligible. With this patch in place it is possible to build an RPM which can be safely installed without the need to relink or binary edit and files. I am happy to release the patch and the SRPM if is anyone is interested. My second question is about the licence for qmail. Despite all my looking I can't find it. Can someone point me to the licence or summarise what I can do with a binary RPM. Thanks. John. -- Information Technology Innovation Group Swinburne University. Melbourne, Australia http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn Please Note: The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. If you have received this email in error, kindly notify the sender. The sender does not guarantee the integrity of this email or any attached files.
Re: Portable RPM for qmail
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 04:33:43PM +1000, John Newbigin wrote: My second question is about the licence for qmail. Despite all my looking I can't find it. Can someone point me to the licence or summarise what I can do with a binary RPM. URL:http://cr.yp.to/distributors.html Vince.
Re: Problem with conf-split config
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:42:26AM +0530, D Rajesh wrote: Hi there, I have done the conf-split configuration and after make setup It created directory /var/qmail. I have moved the original /var/qmail to /var/qmail2 before the make setup. After finishing the installation, I have started /var/qmail/rc in background. It got started successfully. Then if I try to start /var/qmail2/rc then it gives error saying qmail-send already running... If you want two separate copies of qmail running, you have to put /var/qmail2 into conf-qmail and recompile. If you don't change conf-qmail, the /var/qmail path will still be compiled into your binaries. Vince.
Re: Problem with conf-split config
I have followed the below steps to run separate qmail's at /var/qmail and /var/qmail2 My system is a Linux 6.2 kernel 2.2.14, ext2fs 1.. # killall qmail-send ( stopped qmail daemon. ) 2.. # mv /var/qmail /var/qmail2. 3.. # cd /usr/src/qmail-1.03 4.. # vi conf-qmail ( Changed /var/qmail in conf-qmail file to /var/qmail2. ) 5.. # make setup check. 6.. # vi conf-qmail ( Changed conf-qmail file back to /var/qmail ) 7.. # make setup check. 8.. # /var/qmail/rc ( this restarted qmail daemons ) 9.. # /var/qmail2/rc . ( When I start this it says qmail-send already running ) Was I wrong anywhere ??? Thanks Regards, Rajesh, - Original Message - From: Vincent Schonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Problem with conf-split config On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:42:26AM +0530, D Rajesh wrote: Hi there, I have done the conf-split configuration and after make setup It created directory /var/qmail. I have moved the original /var/qmail to /var/qmail2 before the make setup. After finishing the installation, I have started /var/qmail/rc in background. It got started successfully. Then if I try to start /var/qmail2/rc then it gives error saying qmail-send already running... If you want two separate copies of qmail running, you have to put /var/qmail2 into conf-qmail and recompile. If you don't change conf-qmail, the /var/qmail path will still be compiled into your binaries. Vince.
qmailAdmin
Hi, I came across a web based administration tool for qmail called qmailadmin on www.inter7.com/qmailadmin . Has anyone any experience of this?? Is it any good?? P.
Re: Problem with VAR directory during install
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. Run strings - install | grep / and look for a fully-qualified path (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-) - Adrian
badmailfrom
Hi, I have the following in control/badmailfrom as shown by qmail-showctl: badmailfrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] not accepted in MAIL FROM. Hahaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] not accepted in MAIL FROM. Yet messages with the following headers still get through: --- Below this line is the original bounce. Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24147 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2001 09:32:49 - Received: from 046.ro00.dial.iqnet.net.au (HELO default) (203.132.93.46) by mail-x1.iqnet.net.au with SMTP; 27 Jun 2001 09:32:49 - From: Hahaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--VEOD2BWLUV Is this due to the Return-Path: or is badmailfrom not behaving? Cheers, Brett
Re: badmailfrom
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:09:00AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have the following in control/badmailfrom as shown by qmail-showctl: badmailfrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] not accepted in MAIL FROM. Hahaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] not accepted in MAIL FROM. Yet messages with the following headers still get through: --- Below this line is the original bounce. Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24147 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2001 09:32:49 - Received: from 046.ro00.dial.iqnet.net.au (HELO default) (203.132.93.46) by mail-x1.iqnet.net.au with SMTP; 27 Jun 2001 09:32:49 - From: Hahaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--VEOD2BWLUV Is this due to the Return-Path: or is badmailfrom not behaving? It is due to the Return-Path; badmailfrom works on the envelope-sender, not the From: header. Vince.
RE: $HOME problem
2.- I've tried checkpassword but it did't work ;( I could't auth users ... You didn't configure it properly, then. But with an error report like that, not even Russell can help you :). you are right .. qmail-1.03 checkpassword-0.90 I tried the auth examples of the checkpassword docs. compile checkpassword. maildirmake $HOME/Maildir echo ./Maildir/ $HOME/.qmail change /var/qmail/rc to use Maildirs restart qmail but when I run /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup adm /bin/checkpassword pwd I could't authenticate any user. --yapedu
RE: setting quotas. . .
I think you're confused. From the man page for quotacheck: Quotacheck should be run each time the system boots and mounts non-valid file systems. This is most likely to happen after a system crash. qmail won't be running that early in the boot, so it's not an issue. Charles I'm probably confused; I've never set quotas on a Linux server before. The parts of the man page for quotacheck to which I was referring: quotacheck expects each filesystem to be checked to have quota files named aquota.user and aquota.group located at the root of the associated file system. If a file is not present, quotacheck will create it. ... It is strongly recommended to only run quotacheck with quotas turned off and the filesystem unmounted or in read-only mode, or quota corruption can occur. . . I've never set quotas on this server before so I thought that I must first run quotacheck to create the aquota.* files. Since qmail will probably dump at least one e-mail into somebody's Maildir while quotacheck is running I'm at a loss as to how to keep qmail from delivering locally while still accepting mail. Thanks much. ---Norvell Spearman
Re: Peter from the Dike and Security
Unless the network is lying to me again, peter green said:
* Brett Randall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010626 21:49]:
Chris == Chris Bolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
perl -e 'while(){$_=~tr/A-Za-z/N-ZA-Mn-za-m/;print}'
Then paste the email :-)
Or, a bit shorter,
$ tr 'a-zA-Z' 'n-za-mN-ZA-M' email
Or a bit kludgier,
perl -ni -e 'foreach (split //){unless(/\w/){print; next;}print
chr(((ord(lc)-96+13)%26)+96)}'
Why not rot13 email
AlanC
Re: Peter from the Dike and Security
* Alan Clegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 09:22]:
Unless the network is lying to me again, peter green said:
* Brett Randall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010626 21:49]:
Chris == Chris Bolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
perl -e 'while(){$_=~tr/A-Za-z/N-ZA-Mn-za-m/;print}'
Then paste the email :-)
Or, a bit shorter,
$ tr 'a-zA-Z' 'n-za-mN-ZA-M' email
Or a bit kludgier,
perl -ni -e 'foreach (split //){unless(/\w/){print; next;}print
chr(((ord(lc)-96+13)%26)+96)}'
Why not rot13 email
(pcg@pcg2) ~ rot13
bash: rot13: command not found
/pg
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Re: Peter from the Dike and Security
* peter green [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 08:32]: (pcg@pcg2) ~ rot13 bash: rot13: command not found (robin@mail1):(~)$ man caesar | head -n4 CAESAR(6) OpenBSD Reference Manual CAESAR(6) NAME caesar - decrypt caesar cyphers
RE: Qmail SMTP timing out.
I had a similar problem. Without going into the details, mine was caused by the proxy dropping the connection. Have you tried snoop to watch the packets spray to test for errors with netstat? Just a thought... -Mike -Original Message- From: Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Qmail SMTP timing out.
Re: Peter from the Dike and Security
* Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 09:42]: * peter green [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 08:32]: (pcg@pcg2) ~ rot13 bash: rot13: command not found (robin@mail1):(~)$ man caesar | head -n4 (pcg@pcg2) ~ caesar bash: caesar: command not found Next? :-) /pg -- Peter Green : Architekton Internet Services, LLC : [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Ooohh.. FreeBSD is faster over loopback, when compared to Linux over the wire. Film at 11. (Linus Torvalds)
Re: Alter bounce messages?
Amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In particular I'd like to terminate with extreme prejudice the message that says something to the effect of, Hi. This is the [...] Please don't. That message has a very specific format, to allow it to be recognized and parsed automatically. The format is documented at: http://cr.yp.to/proto/qsbmf.txt As Russell says, What problem are you trying to solve? Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: Anyone interested in IPv6 support for qmail?
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Felix von Leitner wrote: I'm asking because I consider porting qmail to IPv6. Before someone tells me: I know KAME did a patch. I am not satisfied with their work. Felix I dread thinking about all the work IPv6 is going to cause. But we can't slow progress. Yes, I would be interested. * Mick Dobra Systems Administrator MTCO Communications 1-800-859-6826 *
Re: qmail-pop3 and vmailmgr
pop corn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FQDN is very clear if the Unix host is serving a single domain. However, what is recommended if the host is serving multiple virtual domains? The POP3 server should identify itself by it's real/canonical name, not by one of its virtualdomains -- although this is personal preference. It doesn't have any particular effect on mail service anyways. understand that this setup script is going to monitor port 110, but how will it know how to distribute from port 110 to the various virtual domains? It doesn't know anything about domains -- that's your virtual domain manager's job (in this case, through the vcheckpw checkpassword replacement). Am I correct in thinking that the same user is going to be able to dynamically choose whether to download the email or leave the email on the server, depending on whether they use an MUA that downloads (for example, Microsoft Outlook) or whether they use a webmail MUA (for example, squirrelmail); and they can simply choose to use one MUA one day and the other MUA a few minutes later in mix and match style? If you run vmailmgr-assisted qmail-pop3d, Courier-IMAP, and (say) oMail, then yes, users will be able to use any method they like. By the way, all POP3 clients can be configured to leave mail on the server. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: SMTP Proxy
Awie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I plan to have a SMTP proxy that using qmail. Our main mail server is MS Exchange that not secure enough for SMTP gateway. Would you give me suggestion what should I install ? and what configuration should I do? See Life with qmail, lifewithqmail.org. It's covered there. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
[OT]: ROT13 [was: Re: Peter from the Dike and Security]
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 09:47:26AM -0400, peter green wrote: * Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 09:42]: * peter green [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 08:32]: (pcg@pcg2) ~ rot13 bash: rot13: command not found (robin@mail1):(~)$ man caesar | head -n4 (pcg@pcg2) ~ caesar bash: caesar: command not found Next? :-) Please stop this useless thread. Get a search engine and find out how to decode rot13. Greetz, Peter -- Against Free Sex! http://www.dataloss.nl/Megahard_en.html
Re: Sending mail using qmail smtp
eddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, when I used my qmail smtp for send an email it show error The connection to the server has failed. Account: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Server: 'tiger.test.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E I take it this is the error message given to you by Outlook? We're not familiar with Microsoft's error codes and numbers. Call them, pay them their $150 per incident (or whatever), and ask them to tell you what that error means. Or use recordio on your qmail server to record the offending SMTP transactions, and post the resulting log here. Then we can help you for free. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: Peter from the Dike and Security
* Chris Bolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 02:01]:
perl -e 'while(){$_=~tr/A-Za-z/N-ZA-Mn-za-m/;print}'
perl -pe'y/a-zA-Z/n-za-mN-ZA-M/'
-Johan
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Re: Alter bounce messages?
* Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 09:56]: Amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In particular I'd like to terminate with extreme prejudice the message that says something to the effect of, Hi. This is the [...] Please don't. That message has a very specific format, to allow it to be recognized and parsed automatically. The format is documented at: http://cr.yp.to/proto/qsbmf.txt What is actually parsing that format these days? I can appreciate forward-looking policies like qsbmf, but that doesn't exactly fly with customers all of the time. What can I point to as a definite reason (*now*) to keep qsbmf? /pg -- Peter Green : Architekton Internet Services, LLC : [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- By the way, I can hardly feel sorry for you... All last night I had to listen to her tears, so great they were redirected to a stream. What? Of _course_ you didn't know. You and your little group no longer have any permissions around here. She changed her .lock files, too. (Kevin M. Bealer, commenting on the private life of a Linux nerd.)
RE: Peter from the Dike and Security
http://www.samag.com/articles/1997/9706/9706d/9706d.htm I'm glad this is a slow week. (Yahoo search keywords - caesar, encryption, unix) -Mike -Original Message- From: peter green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:47 AM To: Qmail List Subject: Re: Peter from the Dike and Security * Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 09:42]: * peter green [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 08:32]: (pcg@pcg2) ~ rot13 bash: rot13: command not found (robin@mail1):(~)$ man caesar | head -n4 (pcg@pcg2) ~ caesar bash: caesar: command not found Next? :-) /pg -- Peter Green : Architekton Internet Services, LLC : [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Ooohh.. FreeBSD is faster over loopback, when compared to Linux over the wire. Film at 11. (Linus Torvalds)
Re: Portable RPM for qmail
John Newbigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am probably going to start a flame war with this but I have created a patch for qmail 1.03 which removes the need for compiled in user and group id's. The patch works by replacing the auto_uida variables with #defines which call functions to return the correct uid. Once the user id has been looked up it is remembered should the same instance try to look it up again. Bruce Guenter has been distributing a patch like this for years; it takes its UIDs and GIDs from the ownership of a set of files in /var/qmail/owners -- nice, because if you want to do a global renumbering of UIDs, qmail gets fixed automatically by the same process you use to change ownership of the rest of the filesystem. With this patch in place it is possible to build an RPM which can be safely installed without the need to relink or binary edit and files. Except the resulting binary RPM will not be distributable. My second question is about the licence for qmail. Despite all my looking I can't find it. Can someone point me to the licence or summarise what I can do with a binary RPM. See Dan's Information for qmail distributors (or such). Basically: you can't distribute modified source, if you want to distribute any binaries they have to meet his var-qmail (?) definition. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: Peter from the Dike and Security
Just open the email in Netscape Messenger, right-mouse on the body and click unscramble [ROT-13]. Brain. peter green wrote: * Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 09:42]: * peter green [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 08:32]: (pcg@pcg2) ~ rot13 bash: rot13: command not found (robin@mail1):(~)$ man caesar | head -n4 (pcg@pcg2) ~ caesar bash: caesar: command not found Next? :-) /pg -- Peter Green : Architekton Internet Services, LLC : [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Ooohh.. FreeBSD is faster over loopback, when compared to Linux over the wire. Film at 11. (Linus Torvalds)
Re: Alter bounce messages?
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:01:44AM -0400, peter green wrote: [snip] What is actually parsing that format these days? I can appreciate forward-looking policies like qsbmf, but that doesn't exactly fly with customers all of the time. What can I point to as a definite reason (*now*) to keep qsbmf? ezmlm parses qsmbf. Greetz, Peter -- Against Free Sex! http://www.dataloss.nl/Megahard_en.html
RE: Alter bounce messages?
Title: RE: Alter bounce messages? I'm looking for this same information, and although it has been answered earlier (edit the qmail-send.c file), I'll state what problem I'm trying to solve. I have a lot of users who are not English speaking, and I get a lot of replies to my bounce messages from them to MAILER-DAEMON asking what the hell the message says. I'd like to include a translated version of the message in the bounce message, as well as a note saying that it's not required for them to reply to the message (I get a lot of thanks for telling me replies, as well). If I leave the original bounce message in place, and just translate it and add my comments at the bottom, would that still be acceptable for QSBMF? Mark Douglas - Architecture Sympatico-Lycos Inc. All your base are belong to us! Make your time! -Original Message- From: Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Alter bounce messages? Amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In particular I'd like to terminate with extreme prejudice the message that says something to the effect of, Hi. This is the [...] Please don't. That message has a very specific format, to allow it to be recognized and parsed automatically. The format is documented at: http://cr.yp.to/proto/qsbmf.txt As Russell says, What problem are you trying to solve? Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: Databyes
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 04:06:16PM +0200, Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: Hi there, Is it possible to override the databytes value in the control/databytes file based on the _destination_ of the email. I know how to change the DATABYTES environment variable using tcpwrappers or tcpserver based on the origin of the connecting SMTP server, but I wish to allow large mails to some (virtual) domains and not to others. Or is this the wrong place to try and achieve this goal? What you want would require patching qmail-smtpd. You could try doing a fixup trick (as specified in the FAQ) and then checking the size from a .qmail file. A program to do so was posted to this list a couple of weeks ago, check the archives for 'sizechecker'. Greetz, Peter -- Against Free Sex! http://www.dataloss.nl/Megahard_en.html
Re: qmailAdmin
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:42:40AM +0100, pat moffatt wrote: I came across a web based administration tool for qmail called qmailadmin on www.inter7.com/qmailadmin . Has anyone any experience of this?? Is it any good?? It is very good. We give all of our webhosting clients access to it, and we have never received one complaint. -- Erich Zigler An angel Cornfed, one phone call and I was swept away. She is everything I ever hoped for in a woman. -- Duckman Low standards? -- Cornfed I'm keeping my fingers crossed. -- Duckman
Re: Peter from the Dike and Security
peter green([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.06.27 09:47:26 +:
* Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 09:42]:
* peter green [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010627 08:32]:
(pcg@pcg2) ~ rot13
bash: rot13: command not found
(robin@mail1):(~)$ man caesar | head -n4
(pcg@pcg2) ~ caesar
bash: caesar: command not found
Next? :-)
PATH=/usr/games:${PATH} export PATH
/pg
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RE: Peter from the Dike and Security
You guys are making this way too hard... Copy the text, go to http://world.altavista.com/tr and paste it in the translate to... box. Then choose Garbage to English and click on Translate Poof! You get it back translated into English garbage :) -Original Message- From: Mike Peppard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:03 AM To: Qmail List Subject: RE: Peter from the Dike and Security http://www.samag.com/articles/1997/9706/9706d/9706d.htm I'm glad this is a slow week. (Yahoo search keywords - caesar, encryption, unix)
Re: setting quotas. . .
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 08:07:35AM -0500, Norvell Spearman wrote:
I'm probably confused; I've never set quotas on a Linux server before.
Did you check out the other man pages listed in the SEE ALSO section of
the quotacheck man page? If you didn't, you should have -- you would then
have discovered exactly what creates the quota.{user,group} files. (Hint:
They're created when you turn quotas on.)
And if I read your requirements correctly, qmail already does what you
want, with no special configuration needed. Read PIC.* and the relevant
qmail-* man pages (in this case, qmail-queue and qmail-send) to see why.
- Adrian
RE: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:____/
That didn't seem to do, apparently, I checked the correct functionality of our DNS and so on. Although in my log quote I used fake addresses those were just slightly changed. The usual protect the innocent (not from the regulars from this list, of course). Actually I do remember obtaining one of those messages and log entries when I tried to subscribe to this list. Which would mean that q-mail smtp daemons do give this Remote_host_said: response. Anyone has any pointers? The weirdest thing is that we have another qmail installation in here that does not receive any of those messages at all. Although I could re-route all outgoing e-mail to it, I rather not as it is a customer system. I am trying to figure out what is the reason for _our_ server to fail, rather than just patch it using another one that works... Yet again, thanks for your time. -Original Message- From: Ahmad Ridha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:/ Alfonso Armenta writes: new msg 2703468 info msg 2703468: bytes 4430 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 28506 uid 502 starting delivery 106109: msg 2703468 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: local 0/100 remote 1/100 delivery 106109: failure: Connected_to_195.98.97.5_but_sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:/ status: local 0/100 remote 0/100 bounce msg 2703468 qp 28512 end msg 2703468 Apparently this is 'random' error. The user then gets a bounce like this: Connected to 195.98.97.5 but sender was rejected. Remote host said: --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Any clues/hints? Is your fqdn valid (known to the Internet)? I experienced the error when experimenting with my first qmail installation using unknown fqdn and the destination host did domain checking. I noticed usa.net and stupid.com were some of such ones. Regards, Ahmad Ridha
Re: Alter bounce messages?
peter green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't. That message has a very specific format, to allow it to be recognized and parsed automatically. The format is documented at: http://cr.yp.to/proto/qsbmf.txt What is actually parsing that format these days? I can appreciate forward-looking policies like qsbmf, but that doesn't exactly fly with customers all of the time. What can I point to as a definite reason (*now*) to keep qsbmf? Peter van Dijk mentioned that ezmlm parses QSBMF. However, the bigger question is What is the the definite reason (*now*) for _not_ keeping QSBMF? I have seen lots of people who say they want to change the content of qmail's bounce messages, but no one has ever been able to give a good reason why. The current message is informative, clear, and concise. What else could you want? Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
RE: setting quotas. . .
If the filesystem isn't mounted, then qmail isn't going to be delivering mail to it, is it? So if I umount /home while qmail is up, will qmail barf or simply wait for /home to be remounted? To run quotacheck, you should probably go to single user mode, unmount all unnecessary filesystems, etc. When you do this, you aren't going to be running any unnecessary daemons (like qmail). Charles I know single user mode would be best; I could do the quota stuff late at night. But what would happen if mail comes to the server and qmail isn't running? Does it simply bounce back to the sender, does the originating smtp server keep trying for a while, or does all that depend on how the destination mail server is configured? I'm trying to avoid having my users yell at me if they don't get an e-mail they're expecting, or if they can't send e-mail out. That's why I originally asked about whether qmail can accept mail for delivery (local and remote) while not delivering mail locally. Thanks much for any help. ---Norvell Spearman
Re: Alter bounce messages?
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:43:07AM -0400, Mark Douglas wrote: If I leave the original bounce message in place, and just translate it and add my comments at the bottom, would that still be acceptable for QSBMF? Only if you append it to the intro paragraph (ie. no blank lines in between). As Charles pointed out, http://cr.yp.to/proto/qsbmf.txt has all the details. - Adrian
Re: Alter bounce messages?
Mark Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a lot of users who are not English speaking, and I get a lot of replies to my bounce messages from them to MAILER-DAEMON asking what the hell the message says. I'd like to include a translated version of the message in the bounce message, as well as a note saying that it's not required for them to reply to the message (I get a lot of thanks for telling me replies, as well). If I leave the original bounce message in place, and just translate it and add my comments at the bottom, would that still be acceptable for QSBMF? Yes, that's fine, providing it still fulfills the format requirements of QSBMF. Primarily, that means a single introductory paragraph -- this means no blank lines between the English and the translated version -- you can put an almost-blank line in my starting with something other than - Hi. This is the qmail-send program at silverton.berkeley.edu. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. = Bonjour. [message in French or other language] That would probably do what you want, and wouldn't break QSBMF parsers. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
custom bounce text
Hi, The qmail-ldap patch contains support for a control/custombouncetext. $ cat custombouncetext This is a test, your message bounced. SSH Communications Security This will produce bounces like so: - Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ssh.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. This is a test, your message bounced. SSH Communications Security [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) --- The patched file is qmail-send.c. I suppose you could pull the code from there, even if you don't use the rest of the ldap stuff. Regards, Mike
Re: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:____/
Alfonso Armenta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although in my log quote I used fake addresses those were just slightly changed. The usual protect the innocent (not from the regulars from this list, of course). Actually I do remember obtaining one of those messages and log entries when I tried to subscribe to this list. Which would mean that q-mail smtp daemons do give this Remote_host_said: response. sender was rejected usually means that the remote SMTP server issued a 5xx or 4xx code after the MAIL FROM: command. This can be due to DNS problems when remote sites use bogus anti-spam measures. You'll also see this with some sites that reject empty envelope senders (i.e., you can't send a bounce to them). In general, sites that use either of these strategies aren't worth sending mail to. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
RE: Alter bounce messages?
Title: RE: Alter bounce messages? peter green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't. That message has a very specific format, to allow it to be recognized and parsed automatically. The format is documented at: http://cr.yp.to/proto/qsbmf.txt What is actually parsing that format these days? I can appreciate forward-looking policies like qsbmf, but that doesn't exactly fly with customers all of the time. What can I point to as a definite reason (*now*) to keep qsbmf? Peter van Dijk mentioned that ezmlm parses QSBMF. However, the bigger question is What is the the definite reason (*now*) for _not_ keeping QSBMF? I have seen lots of people who say they want to change the content of qmail's bounce messages, but no one has ever been able to give a good reason why. The current message is informative, clear, and concise. What else could you want? Charles -- See my earlier reply to this thread as to why I would like to change the message. In order to provide my customers with the best service possible, I consider those very good reasons to change the message. Mark
Re: setting quotas. . .
Norvell Spearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the filesystem isn't mounted, then qmail isn't going to be delivering mail to it, is it? So if I umount /home while qmail is up, will qmail barf or simply wait for /home to be remounted? You still don't get it. Running quotacheck is something you do after a major system failure, etc. You do this from single user mode, before mounting other filesystems, before starting networking at all, let alone network daemons. On SysV-style systems, single user mode, where you do major system repairs and whatnot, is runlevel 1. Networking isn't enabled until you hit runlevel 3. And things like qmail-send shouldn't be started until at _least_ runlevel 2, preferably runlevel 3. This has nothing whatsoever to do with qmail. Take further questions about quotacheck to the supportl list for your OS. I know single user mode would be best; I could do the quota stuff late at night. But what would happen if mail comes to the server and qmail isn't running? It's deferred. The sender will try again later if they can't establish a connection. If you don't like that, pay someone to be a backup MX for you. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: setting quotas. . .
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:38:28AM -0500, Norvell Spearman wrote: I know single user mode would be best; I could do the quota stuff late at night. But what would happen if mail comes to the server and qmail isn't running? Does it simply bounce back to the sender, does the originating smtp server keep trying for a while, or does all that depend on how the destination mail server is configured? Unless the sending mail server is completely broken, it will queue and retry. I'm trying to avoid having my users yell at me if they don't get an e-mail they're expecting, or if they can't send e-mail out. That's why I originally asked about whether qmail can accept mail for delivery (local and remote) while not delivering mail locally. svc -d /service/qmail-send will allow qmail to accept mail via SMTP and queue it, but not deliver it. Making all possible delivery directories sticky will postpone all deliveries. IMHO, single-user mode, unmount filesystem, set up quotas, back to multiuser mode is probably your best bet. Your odds of losing any mail during this transaction are extremely low, unless the sending mail servers are totally useless... -- Greg White
RE: SMTP Proxy
-Original Message- From: Awie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SMTP Proxy Hi all, hi I plan to have a SMTP proxy that using qmail. good idea Our main mail server is MS Exchange that not secure enough for SMTP gateway. yes of course.. why just put msx in the thrash and use qmail for all [dont look at my mime header, iam using outlook XP as mail client ] Would you give me suggestion what should I install ? and what configuration should I do? install a normal qmail installation as described in life with qmail www.lifewithqmail.org i think, and then setup a smart host or something similar in the ms exchange config. Then add an smtproute in your qmail config to the exchange server e voila :) Many thanks for your help. Thx rgds, Awie
RE: setting quotas. . .
Did you check out the other man pages listed in the SEE ALSO section of
the quotacheck man page? If you didn't, you should have -- you would then
have discovered exactly what creates the quota.{user,group} files. (Hint:
They're created when you turn quotas on.)
- Adrian
I must be reading different man pages than yours. The quotaon man page is
referred to in quotacheck's man page. This is what I read from
`man quotaon`:
NAME
quotaon - turn file system quotas on and off
. . .
quotaon expects quota files to be present in the root directory
of the specified file system and be named aquota.user
for user quota or aquota.group for group quota. These files can
be created either by converting old quota files with
convertquota(8) or by quotacheck(8)
which creates completely new files.
^^*
Then quotacheck's man page:
quotacheck expects each filesystem to be checked to have quota
files named aquota.user and aquota.group located at the root
of the associated filesystem. If a file is not present,
quotacheck will create it.
^*
. . .
It is strongly recommended to only run quotacheck with quotas
turned off and the filesystem unmounted or in read-only mode, or
quota corruption can occur.
So what creates the quota files besides quotacheck? Thanks for your help
and all apologies for straying off this list's theme. . .
---Norvell
__
*Annoying ASCII emphasis added by message's author
Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl
when i run relay-ctrl-age from cron or command line, i get # /usr/local/bin: Permission denied I've checked the permissions, from cron its run as root. The only files it should be using in /usr/local/bin is tcprules is this behavior normal? or have I got a few things screwed up? Thanks in advance = Todd Grimes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Systems Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bass Pro Outdoors Online, L.L.C.(417)873-4354
Re: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:____/
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:33:32AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote: Alfonso Armenta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although in my log quote I used fake addresses those were just slightly changed. The usual protect the innocent (not from the regulars from this list, of course). Actually I do remember obtaining one of those messages and log entries when I tried to subscribe to this list. Which would mean that q-mail smtp daemons do give this Remote_host_said: response. sender was rejected usually means that the remote SMTP server issued a 5xx or 4xx code after the MAIL FROM: command. This can be due to DNS problems when remote sites use bogus anti-spam measures. (or) badmailfrom. (you could consider that bogus too :) You'll also see this with some sites that reject empty envelope senders (i.e., you can't send a bounce to them). http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/ Greetz, Peter -- Against Free Sex! http://www.dataloss.nl/Megahard_en.html
Re: qmail-getpw
No unfortunately I do not, it would make life a lot easier if that was all that was wrong. The way the system is set up the admins have logins in a real /etc/passwd on the machine, then there is an ldap server that provides information on the 'users'. The admins in the /etc/passwd file can receive mail, but the users on the LDAP server can't. However if I run qmail-getpw from the command line it retrieves the users information no problem, same as with the admins. The permissions on the Maildirs and homedirs are all fine, as are ownerships. So I can't understand why qmail still refuses to deliver. The fact the qmail-getpw seems to work is what confuses me. herbie __ This is an email, an electronic Post-It note. Keep your Inbox tidy and dispose of it in a timely fashion. On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Charles Cazabon wrote: Andrew J Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does qmail use any other delivery mechainism's by default? I have found that using nss_ldap, people in the local passwd file will get email, people in the LDAP database will not. Yet I can run qmail-getpw on a user in LDAP and it returns the right response, yet still will not deliver the mail. What am I missing? qmail-getpw will not be used if the qmail-users mechanism is in place. Do you have a /var/qmail/users/cdb file? Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Can't send mail using SMTP on qmail 1.03 - Follow-up
I had posted a question earlier regarding a problem sending mail to SMTP. I have a snippet below from recordio when I send a message body containgn 123 . The last few lines of the SMTP transaction produced by Outlook .. Jun 26 07:42:33 fs1 smtpd: 993566553.076015 13548 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400? Jun 26 07:42:33 fs1 smtpd: 993566553.111918 13548 Importance: Normal? Jun 26 07:42:33 fs1 smtpd: 993566553.155504 13548 ? Jun 26 07:42:33 fs1 smtpd: 993566553.189866 13548 123+ ... and a similar snippet produced by Netscape, (which was successful when I hit Cancel) Jun 26 07:46:18 fs1 smtpd: 993566778.482630 13581 Subject: testing? Jun 26 07:46:18 fs1 smtpd: 993566778.506109 13581 Con+ Jun 26 07:46:18 fs1 smtpd: 993566778.530051 13581 tent-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii? Jun 26 07:46:18 fs1 smtpd: 993566778.553979 13581 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit? Jun 26 07:46:18 fs1 smtpd: 993566778.577895 13581 ? Jun 26 07:46:18 fs1 smtpd: 993566778.601820 13581 123? Jun 26 07:46:31 fs1 smtpd: 993566791.539676 13581 ? Jun 26 07:46:31 fs1 smtpd: 993566791.539755 13581 .? Jun 26 07:46:31 fs1 smtpd: 993566791.539774 13581 QUIT? Jun 26 07:46:31 fs1 smtpd: 993566791.539792 13581 [EOF] Can anyone tell me the significance of the + symbol following the 123 message from Outlook? Netscape produced a ? I seem to remember somthing in the documentation discussing this but can't find it now. TIA
RE: Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl
-Original Message- From: Todd Grimes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl when i run relay-ctrl-age from cron or command line, i get # /usr/local/bin: Permission denied probably trying to exec a directory ? I've checked the permissions, from cron its run as root. The only files it should be using in /usr/local/bin is tcprules is this behavior normal? or have I got a few things screwed up? Thanks in advance = Todd Grimes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Systems Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bass Pro Outdoors Online, L.L.C.(417)873-4354
RE: setting quotas. . .
IMHO, single-user mode, unmount filesystem, set up quotas, back to multiuser mode is probably your best bet. Your odds of losing any mail during this transaction are extremely low, unless the sending mail servers are totally useless... Greg White Thanks very much. I would like to apologize to the entire list---as I have to Charles Cazabon---for any irrelevant postings and for taking up the list's time and resources. My original question had to do with setting quotas on /home and how qmail would react if /home suddenly wasn't available. But I must have worded my questions terribly. Thanks to Adrian Ho for pointing me to the PIC.* files. I will definitely RTFM more closely next time and hopefully not be a bother. ---Norvell Spearman
[OT] rackmount chassis?
I realize this is slightly off topic (relates to qmail indirectly), but I though some of the people on this list might be able help me a bit. I'm attempting to setup a failover nfs server with 2 machines. They will have a shared scsi bus between them with 2 raid controllers for redundancy. I'm just not sure where to look for a good rackmount chassis to put the raid controllers and disks in. I've seen a lot of 4U 8-bay drive chassis (with redundant power supplies) at fairly reasonable prices, but I'd like to hear from people who are using and happy with a specific vendor. I apologize for spamming the list with something somewhat off topic, but this is for a pop toaster--so it's not completely off topic. Thanks, Mike
Re: custom bounce text
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The qmail-ldap patch contains support for a control/custombouncetext. $ cat custombouncetext This is a test, your message bounced. SSH Communications Security This will produce bounces like so: - Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ssh.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. This is a test, your message bounced. SSH Communications Security [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) --- Note that that bounce message is not QSMBF-compliant. -Dave
Re: Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl
Todd Grimes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when i run relay-ctrl-age from cron or command line, i get # /usr/local/bin: Permission denied Do you have a space between /usr/local/bin and relay-ctrl-age or some other program in your cron script? Please post your script here (copy paste, NOT retyped). Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: qmail-getpw
Andrew J Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The admins in the /etc/passwd file can receive mail, but the users on the LDAP server can't. However if I run qmail-getpw from the command line it retrieves the users information no problem, same as with the admins. The permissions on the Maildirs and homedirs are all fine, as are ownerships. So I can't understand why qmail still refuses to deliver. From the qmail-getpw man page (just for clarity's sake): qmail-getpw considers an account in /etc/passwd to be a user if (1) the account has a nonzero uid, (2) the account's home directory exists (and is visible to qmail- getpw), and (3) the account owns its home directory. qmail-getpw ignores account names containing uppercase letters. qmail-getpw also assumes that all account names are shorter than 32 characters. Are all of these conditions true for your LDAP users? What is the exact output of the command: qmail-getpw ldap_user_name | tr '\0' '\n' The fact the qmail-getpw seems to work is what confuses me. You said you're not using qmail-users. Does qmail-LDAP still use qmail-getpw then? If not, that would explain this, if you're actually using qmail-LDAP (I can't remember if you said you were). Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Auth problems
I was running qmail-pop3d from inetd on FreeBSD 4.3 with no problems getting my mail. I took a suggestion and moved to running it under tcpserver. Now using the same username and password I get a -ERR authorization failed. qmail-pop3d start script: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200 \ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -l 0 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \ mail.oims.net /bin/checkpoppasswd relay-ctrl-allow /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 21 the program /bin/checkpoppasswd worked just fine under inetd. Now, even when I try /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mail.oims.net /bin/checkpoppasswd and enter USER myusername and PASS mypassword I get the same error. the checkpoppasswd came form Paul Gregg's projects (http://www.pgregg.com/projects/) Any suggestions? = Todd Grimes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Systems Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bass Pro Outdoors Online, L.L.C.(417)873-4354
Re: Can't send mail using SMTP on qmail 1.03 - Follow-up
Perry Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had posted a question earlier regarding a problem sending mail to SMTP. I have a snippet below from recordio when I send a message body containgn 123 . The last few lines of the SMTP transaction produced by Outlook .. Jun 26 07:42:33 fs1 smtpd: 993566553.076015 13548 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400? Jun 26 07:42:33 fs1 smtpd: 993566553.111918 13548 Importance: Normal? Jun 26 07:42:33 fs1 smtpd: 993566553.155504 13548 ? Jun 26 07:42:33 fs1 smtpd: 993566553.189866 13548 123+ [...] Can anyone tell me the significance of the + symbol following the 123 message from Outlook? From the recordio manpage: At the beginning of each line on descriptor 2, recordio inserts the prog process ID, along with for input or for output. At the end of each line it inserts +, a space, or [EOF]; a space indicates that there was a new line in the input or output, and [EOF] indicates the end of input or output. The way I read that (*), Outlook sent a bare linefeed. That's a no-no. Netscape behaved properly in your other example. You could try using fixcrio, or get Microsoft to fix their broken software. Charles (*) Upside down, in a bad light. -- Pratchett? -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl
* * * * * root/usr/sbin/relay-ctrl-age At 01:43 PM 6/27/2001 -0600, you wrote: Todd Grimes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when i run relay-ctrl-age from cron or command line, i get # /usr/local/bin: Permission denied Do you have a space between /usr/local/bin and relay-ctrl-age or some other program in your cron script? Please post your script here (copy paste, NOT retyped). Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: qmail-getpw
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 01:49:41PM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote: The fact the qmail-getpw seems to work is what confuses me. You said you're not using qmail-users. Does qmail-LDAP still use qmail-getpw then? If not, that would explain this, if you're actually using qmail-LDAP (I can't remember if you said you were). On qmail-ldap, verify your user settings via qmail-ldaplookup. Otherwise ask for help on its list, I'd be happy to provide help there if you send a reasonable complete question. -- * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
Re: Java and Qmail - building a large mailmerge server - plain text version
Russell Nelson wrote: The problem, simply enough, is that you should try very, very hard not to have a separate copy of the email on the disk. If you're running qmail-inject on each message, then yes, three machines aren't going to be enough. On the other hand, three machines of the type you describe below will be sufficient to deliver one million emails in about eight hours, IF you're doing the mail merge function at delivery time. You can do that using the qmail-verh patch, you could call qmail-remote directly (in theory; I don't know that anyone is doing that), or you could purchase my qmail-merge system. It lets you substitute multiple fields into each message. So you could substitute in a first name, a last name, a database ID number, or whatever else you want. Handles bounces, and runs everything through the database. Details upon request. Russ, I emailed you off list a few days ago about your qmail-merge system, but as yet have had no reply did you get it ? Can please contact me off list. appologis to rest of list for a gratuitous waste of bandwidth Thanks Greg -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | #exclude windows.h Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX |
Re: Problem with VAR directory during install
Well I think I may have located the source of the trouble but it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and the Running qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created while logged in as root. That gives ownership to the user root in the group root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are added. The problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the created users, I receive a warning that the home directory of /var/qmail has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the cause of my problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and directory permissions, but in reading all the qmail documentation I can lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need to change the ownership and group of /var/qmail from root/root. Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile goes nowhere, and this all smells like a permissions issue. I'm running Mandrake 8. Thanks for your patient help. Steve. On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. Run strings - install | grep / and look for a fully- qualified path (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-) - Adrian
Re: Problem with VAR directory during install
Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble installing qmail on Mandrake 8? I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix it than install an older version of the operating system, which can present other issues. -Steve I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all different apps. So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs have been clean. I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at users and groups... Tina --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I think I may have located the source of the trouble but it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and the Running qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created while logged in as root. That gives ownership to the user root in the group root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are added. The problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the created users, I receive a warning that the home directory of /var/qmail has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the cause of my problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and directory permissions, but in reading all the qmail documentation I can lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need to change the ownership and group of /var/qmail from root/root. Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile goes nowhere, and this all smells like a permissions issue. I'm running Mandrake 8. Thanks for your patient help. Steve. On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. Run strings - install | grep / and look for a fully- qualified path (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-) - Adrian __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and I don't know what hard can I buy? :) Thanks very much!
Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Hi, I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install perfectly fine. I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a top choice. Steve Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? Mandrake 8 really went out the door with issues. I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine on both. Mandrake 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made secure as a server, but it installs a lot of client-side crap. sorry if that doesn't help, davidu -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble installing qmail on Mandrake 8? I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix it than install an older version of the operating system, which can present other issues. -Steve I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all different apps. So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs have been clean. I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at users and groups... Tina --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I think I may have located the source of the trouble but it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and the Running qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created while logged in as root. That gives ownership to the user root in the group root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are added. The problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the created users, I receive a warning that the home directory of /var/qmail has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the cause of my problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and directory permissions, but in reading all the qmail documentation I can lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need to change the ownership and group of /var/qmail from root/root. Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile goes nowhere, and this all smells like a permissions issue. I'm running Mandrake 8. Thanks for your patient help. Steve. On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. Run strings - install | grep / and look for a fully- qualified path (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-) - Adrian __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 09:22:02PM -0300, Federico Edelman Anaya wrote: What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and I don't know what hard can I buy? :) go away, troll. --Adam
xinetd config file for qmail
I missed the original disucssion but I never saw a config file posted to
the archive so here's one.
Critiques of the following setup are welcome.
However please note **This is a small qmail site and I am very familiar
with tcpwappers already**
So arguments about reliability at very high utilization rates don't sway
me. xinetd has served me reasonably well so I don't choose to learn a
new way of accomplishing these tasks.
kk
more /etc/xinetd.conf /etc/xinetd.d/qmail
::
/etc/xinetd.conf
::
#
# Simple configuration file for xinetd
#
# Some defaults, and include /etc/xinetd.d/
defaults
{
instances = 60
log_type= SYSLOG authpriv
log_on_success = HOST PID
log_on_failure = HOST RECORD
}
includedir /etc/xinetd.d
::
/etc/xinetd.d/qmail
::
# default: off
# description: The qmail service provide MTA
service smtp
{
flags = NAMEINARGS
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= qmaild
server = /usr/sbin/tcpd
server_args = /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
disable = no
}
RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
Just be careful about Linux because it has a maximum 2G file size (size for a single file). This can get in the way of some search engines which build large random-access files that exceed 2G. But it should not pose any kind of a problem for mail, especially if MAILDIR format is used. I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of the Internet pornography industry. That is a good technical figure of merit, because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting lots and lots of hits. If Free BSD breaks the 2G limit, I'd go with Free BSD. Dave. -Original Message- From: root [mailto:root]On Behalf Of Federico Edelman Anaya Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and I don't know what hard can I buy? :) Thanks very much!
RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Just for the sake of argument I have a Mandrake 8 machine that runs qmail fine with the directions from LWQ I also have a Mandrake Cooker machine (pre8.1) that I installed qmail fine. Nothing wierd, just word for word from LWQ. Still I prefer debian but this was for a friend who likes the ease of Mandrake, and true enough its pretty simple. -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:24 PM To: David U. Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install Hi, I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install perfectly fine. I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a top choice. Steve Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? Mandrake 8 really went out the door with issues. I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine on both. Mandrake 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made secure as a server, but it installs a lot of client-side crap. sorry if that doesn't help, davidu -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble installing qmail on Mandrake 8? I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix it than install an older version of the operating system, which can present other issues. -Steve I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all different apps. So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs have been clean. I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at users and groups... Tina --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I think I may have located the source of the trouble but it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and the Running qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created while logged in as root. That gives ownership to the user root in the group root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are added. The problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the created users, I receive a warning that the home directory of /var/qmail has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the cause of my problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and directory permissions, but in reading all the qmail documentation I can lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need to change the ownership and group of /var/qmail from root/root. Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile goes nowhere, and this all smells like a permissions issue. I'm running Mandrake 8. Thanks for your patient help. Steve. On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. Run strings - install | grep / and look for a fully- qualified path (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-) - Adrian __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and I don't know what hard can I buy? :) Solaris is slow to fork and qmail makes liberal use of that call, so solaris is out of the question. After that, it's close between FreeBSD and Linux. I'm pretty biased towards from FreeBSD because of its development environment and the thoughtfulness of their engineering team (Linux is pretty hackish). FreeBSD with softupdates turned on will give you the best performance and reliability though amongst the three options. Best of luck, but be careful, this smells like a troll. -sc -- Sean Chittenden PGP signature
Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Well I guess that kind of puts the nail in the coffin. Mandrake is supposed to be a top-notch distro - too bad they barfed all over version 8. I'll go snag the 7.2 ISOs and start all over again. Good thing, this mailing list! -Steve I downloaded the ISO's and burned CDS for 7.2. I purchased the cd for 8.0 and installed from it. I chose qmail because of its reputation as well as the availability of add-ons. For example there is a good free webmail program I got from inter7 which supports virtual hosts and webmin has a module to support remote admin. I couldn't install my firewall under 8 and ximian gnome upgrade install was also not supported I couldn't get daemontools to compile without errors either. I gave up spending so much time trying to figure out what was wrong and went back to 7.2 T. --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install perfectly fine. I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a top choice. Steve Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? Mandrake 8 really went out the door with issues. I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine on both. Mandrake 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made secure as a server, but it installs a lot of client-side crap. sorry if that doesn't help, davidu -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble installing qmail on Mandrake 8? I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix it than install an older version of the operating system, which can present other issues. -Steve I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all different apps. So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs have been clean. I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at users and groups... Tina --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I think I may have located the source of the trouble but it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and the Running qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created while logged in as root. That gives ownership to the user root in the group root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are added. The problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the created users, I receive a warning that the home directory of /var/qmail has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the cause of my problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and directory permissions, but in reading all the qmail documentation I can lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need to change the ownership and group of /var/qmail from root/root. Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile goes nowhere, and this all smells like a permissions issue. I'm running Mandrake 8. Thanks for your patient help. Steve. On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. Run strings - install | grep / and look for a fully- qualified path (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-) - Adrian __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Well I guess that kind of puts the nail in the coffin. Mandrake is supposed to be a top-notch distro - too bad they barfed all over version 8. I'll go snag the 7.2 ISOs and start all over again. Good thing, this mailing list! -Steve I downloaded the ISO's and burned CDS for 7.2. I purchased the cd for 8.0 and installed from it. I chose qmail because of its reputation as well as the availability of add-ons. For example there is a good free webmail program I got from inter7 which supports virtual hosts and webmin has a module to support remote admin. I couldn't install my firewall under 8 and ximian gnome upgrade install was also not supported I couldn't get daemontools to compile without errors either. I gave up spending so much time trying to figure out what was wrong and went back to 7.2 T. --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install perfectly fine. I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a top choice. Steve Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? Mandrake 8 really went out the door with issues. I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine on both. Mandrake 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made secure as a server, but it installs a lot of client-side crap. sorry if that doesn't help, davidu -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble installing qmail on Mandrake 8? I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix it than install an older version of the operating system, which can present other issues. -Steve I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all different apps. So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs have been clean. I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at users and groups... Tina --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I think I may have located the source of the trouble but it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and the Running qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created while logged in as root. That gives ownership to the user root in the group root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are added. The problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the created users, I receive a warning that the home directory of /var/qmail has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the cause of my problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and directory permissions, but in reading all the qmail documentation I can lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need to change the ownership and group of /var/qmail from root/root. Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile goes nowhere, and this all smells like a permissions issue. I'm running Mandrake 8. Thanks for your patient help. Steve. On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. Run strings - install | grep / and look for a fully- qualified path (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-) - Adrian __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Well I guess that kind of puts the nail in the coffin. Mandrake is supposed to be a top-notch distro - too bad they barfed all over version 8. I'll go snag the 7.2 ISOs and start all over again. Good thing, this mailing list! -Steve I downloaded the ISO's and burned CDS for 7.2. I purchased the cd for 8.0 and installed from it. I chose qmail because of its reputation as well as the availability of add-ons. For example there is a good free webmail program I got from inter7 which supports virtual hosts and webmin has a module to support remote admin. I couldn't install my firewall under 8 and ximian gnome upgrade install was also not supported I couldn't get daemontools to compile without errors either. I gave up spending so much time trying to figure out what was wrong and went back to 7.2 T. --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install perfectly fine. I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a top choice. Steve Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? Mandrake 8 really went out the door with issues. I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine on both. Mandrake 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made secure as a server, but it installs a lot of client-side crap. sorry if that doesn't help, davidu -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble installing qmail on Mandrake 8? I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix it than install an older version of the operating system, which can present other issues. -Steve I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all different apps. So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs have been clean. I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at users and groups... Tina --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I think I may have located the source of the trouble but it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and the Running qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created while logged in as root. That gives ownership to the user root in the group root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are added. The problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the created users, I receive a warning that the home directory of /var/qmail has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the cause of my problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and directory permissions, but in reading all the qmail documentation I can lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need to change the ownership and group of /var/qmail from root/root. Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile goes nowhere, and this all smells like a permissions issue. I'm running Mandrake 8. Thanks for your patient help. Steve. On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. Run strings - install | grep / and look for a fully- qualified path (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-) - Adrian __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: SMTP Proxy
Thanks Lucas Charles ! I will try. Thx rgds, Awie - Original Message - From: Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:54 PM Subject: Re: SMTP Proxy Awie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I plan to have a SMTP proxy that using qmail. Our main mail server is MS Exchange that not secure enough for SMTP gateway. Would you give me suggestion what should I install ? and what configuration should I do? See Life with qmail, lifewithqmail.org. It's covered there. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Large messages terminated with error?
Hello all- Some background. I have a Qmail server running RedHat 7.0 version 1.03, along with courier-imap 1.2.3 (just the IMAP part) + vpopmail 4.9.8. It is off-site from our office, and for 130 days the whole email system has been flawless, even through the 3 times our office has changed IPs. Then we recently got a new data line in our office (sDSL to a local router that is connected to a T1) and problems began. Not necessairly the email server's fault, perhaps, but definately related. The only change is that I have changed is that I added our new domain to the tcp.smtp file and then ran tcprules /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.tmp /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp. Even without this, though, it sent mail fine since vpopmail does pop authentication. The tcp.smtp file looks like: 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT= 64.156.209.:allow,RELAYCLIENT= Now for the problem: I cannot send a large (10 mb) message, the kicker is that when I do it also takes our office internet connection down for 30-90 seconds! The only symptoms I have been able to track down is that it appears to transfer at least most of message to the queue on the qmail server (as du -h shows me). Also, outlook 2000 gives an error message saying, TCP/IP connection was unexpectedly terminated by the server. Server responded: '354 go ahead' Account: zMatt @ Careercast.com', SMTP server 'email.careercast.com' Number 0x800ccc0f. Netscape The same time the error appears our data connection dies. We can't even ping the first router. Then it comes up after a short while... I have no idea what is happening here, I don't think our ISP does either. Any help would be greatly appreciated, please let me know if I can provide any more information. Thanks Matt
Re: qmail-pop3 and vmailmgr
1) Sounds good, I'll use the real, canonical name 2) I didn't realize the password replacement could do all that work by itself. It apparently doesn't need the vmailmgrd daemon to run? 3) I agree that the pop3 clients can be configured to leave things on the server. It's reassuring to know that my users are in fact able to switch between webmail/pop clients. I've looked at the vmailmgr archives for all of June (I didn't seem to find an archive for prior to June). They have very few posts compared to this list and not many replies to the posts. I appreciate the help I am receiving here about qmail-pop3 and vmailmgr. From: Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: qmail-pop3 and vmailmgr Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:53:30 -0600 pop corn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FQDN is very clear if the Unix host is serving a single domain. However, what is recommended if the host is serving multiple virtual domains? The POP3 server should identify itself by it's real/canonical name, not by one of its virtualdomains -- although this is personal preference. It doesn't have any particular effect on mail service anyways. understand that this setup script is going to monitor port 110, but how will it know how to distribute from port 110 to the various virtual domains? It doesn't know anything about domains -- that's your virtual domain manager's job (in this case, through the vcheckpw checkpassword replacement). Am I correct in thinking that the same user is going to be able to dynamically choose whether to download the email or leave the email on the server, depending on whether they use an MUA that downloads (for example, Microsoft Outlook) or whether they use a webmail MUA (for example, squirrelmail); and they can simply choose to use one MUA one day and the other MUA a few minutes later in mix and match style? If you run vmailmgr-assisted qmail-pop3d, Courier-IMAP, and (say) oMail, then yes, users will be able to use any method they like. By the way, all POP3 clients can be configured to leave mail on the server. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ --- _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: qmail-pop3 and vmailmgr
1) Sounds good, I'll use the real, canonical name 2) I didn't realize the password replacement could do all that work by itself. It apparently doesn't need the vmailmgrd daemon to run? 3) I agree that the pop3 clients can be configured to leave things on the server. It's reassuring to know that my users are in fact able to switch between webmail/pop clients. I've looked at the vmailmgr archives for all of June (I didn't seem to find an archive for prior to June). They have very few posts compared to this list and not many replies to the posts. I appreciate the help I am receiving here about qmail-pop3 and vmailmgr. From: Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: qmail-pop3 and vmailmgr Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:53:30 -0600 pop corn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FQDN is very clear if the Unix host is serving a single domain. However, what is recommended if the host is serving multiple virtual domains? The POP3 server should identify itself by it's real/canonical name, not by one of its virtualdomains -- although this is personal preference. It doesn't have any particular effect on mail service anyways. understand that this setup script is going to monitor port 110, but how will it know how to distribute from port 110 to the various virtual domains? It doesn't know anything about domains -- that's your virtual domain manager's job (in this case, through the vcheckpw checkpassword replacement). Am I correct in thinking that the same user is going to be able to dynamically choose whether to download the email or leave the email on the server, depending on whether they use an MUA that downloads (for example, Microsoft Outlook) or whether they use a webmail MUA (for example, squirrelmail); and they can simply choose to use one MUA one day and the other MUA a few minutes later in mix and match style? If you run vmailmgr-assisted qmail-pop3d, Courier-IMAP, and (say) oMail, then yes, users will be able to use any method they like. By the way, all POP3 clients can be configured to leave mail on the server. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ --- _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 01:03:37PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: Well I guess that kind of puts the nail in the coffin. Mandrake is supposed to be a top-notch distro Er, since when? --Adam
Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Hmmm...I wonder why my Mandrake 8 install won't cooperate. I've reloaded the OS a half dozen times, each time more careful than the previous, and to make a long story short when you do the make absolutely nothing goes into the /var/qmail directory. The install basically goes nowhere. I also noticed that this directory has owner as root and group as root, which is the way it should be if you follow the instructions to the letter, but linuxconf whines that the qmail special users don't have access to the /var/qmail directory because they are in different groups. One thing: the /var directory is actually two 17GB SCSI drives running in Linux Raid 1 (mirroring). Do you think it's possible the mirroring is screwing things up? -Steve Just for the sake of argument I have a Mandrake 8 machine that runs qmail fine with the directions from LWQ I also have a Mandrake Cooker machine (pre8.1) that I installed qmail fine. Nothing wierd, just word for word from LWQ. Still I prefer debian but this was for a friend who likes the ease of Mandrake, and true enough its pretty simple. -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:24 PM To: David U. Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install Hi, I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install perfectly fine. I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a top choice. Steve Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? Mandrake 8 really went out the door with issues. I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine on both. Mandrake 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made secure as a server, but it installs a lot of client-side crap. sorry if that doesn't help, davidu -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble installing qmail on Mandrake 8? I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix it than install an older version of the operating system, which can present other issues. -Steve I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all different apps. So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs have been clean. I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at users and groups... Tina --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I think I may have located the source of the trouble but it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and the Running qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created while logged in as root. That gives ownership to the user root in the group root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are added. The problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the created users, I receive a warning that the home directory of /var/qmail has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the cause of my problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and directory permissions, but in reading all the qmail documentation I can lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need to change the ownership and group of /var/qmail from root/root. Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile goes nowhere, and this all smells like a permissions issue. I'm running Mandrake 8. Thanks for your patient help. Steve. On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. Run strings - install | grep / and look for a fully- qualified path (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-)
Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Hmmm...I wonder why my Mandrake 8 install won't cooperate. I've reloaded the OS a half dozen times, each time more careful than the previous, and to make a long story short when you do the make absolutely nothing goes into the /var/qmail directory. The install basically goes nowhere. I also noticed that this directory has owner as root and group as root, which is the way it should be if you follow the instructions to the letter, but linuxconf whines that the qmail special users don't have access to the /var/qmail directory because they are in different groups. One thing: the /var directory is actually two 17GB SCSI drives running in Linux Raid 1 (mirroring). Do you think it's possible the mirroring is screwing things up? -Steve Just for the sake of argument I have a Mandrake 8 machine that runs qmail fine with the directions from LWQ I also have a Mandrake Cooker machine (pre8.1) that I installed qmail fine. Nothing wierd, just word for word from LWQ. Still I prefer debian but this was for a friend who likes the ease of Mandrake, and true enough its pretty simple. -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:24 PM To: David U. Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install Hi, I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install perfectly fine. I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a top choice. Steve Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? Mandrake 8 really went out the door with issues. I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine on both. Mandrake 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made secure as a server, but it installs a lot of client-side crap. sorry if that doesn't help, davidu -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble installing qmail on Mandrake 8? I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix it than install an older version of the operating system, which can present other issues. -Steve I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all different apps. So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs have been clean. I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at users and groups... Tina --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I think I may have located the source of the trouble but it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and the Running qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created while logged in as root. That gives ownership to the user root in the group root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are added. The problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the created users, I receive a warning that the home directory of /var/qmail has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the cause of my problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and directory permissions, but in reading all the qmail documentation I can lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need to change the ownership and group of /var/qmail from root/root. Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile goes nowhere, and this all smells like a permissions issue. I'm running Mandrake 8. Thanks for your patient help. Steve. On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. Run strings - install | grep / and look for a fully- qualified path (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-)
Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Hmmm...I wonder why my Mandrake 8 install won't cooperate. I've reloaded the OS a half dozen times, each time more careful than the previous, and to make a long story short when you do the make absolutely nothing goes into the /var/qmail directory. The install basically goes nowhere. I also noticed that this directory has owner as root and group as root, which is the way it should be if you follow the instructions to the letter, but linuxconf whines that the qmail special users don't have access to the /var/qmail directory because they are in different groups. One thing: the /var directory is actually two 17GB SCSI drives running in Linux Raid 1 (mirroring). Do you think it's possible the mirroring is screwing things up? -Steve Just for the sake of argument I have a Mandrake 8 machine that runs qmail fine with the directions from LWQ I also have a Mandrake Cooker machine (pre8.1) that I installed qmail fine. Nothing wierd, just word for word from LWQ. Still I prefer debian but this was for a friend who likes the ease of Mandrake, and true enough its pretty simple. -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:24 PM To: David U. Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install Hi, I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install perfectly fine. I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a top choice. Steve Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? Mandrake 8 really went out the door with issues. I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine on both. Mandrake 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made secure as a server, but it installs a lot of client-side crap. sorry if that doesn't help, davidu -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble installing qmail on Mandrake 8? I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix it than install an older version of the operating system, which can present other issues. -Steve I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all different apps. So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs have been clean. I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at users and groups... Tina --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I think I may have located the source of the trouble but it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and the Running qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created while logged in as root. That gives ownership to the user root in the group root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are added. The problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the created users, I receive a warning that the home directory of /var/qmail has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the cause of my problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and directory permissions, but in reading all the qmail documentation I can lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need to change the ownership and group of /var/qmail from root/root. Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile goes nowhere, and this all smells like a permissions issue. I'm running Mandrake 8. Thanks for your patient help. Steve. On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. Run strings - install | grep / and look for a fully- qualified path (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-)
Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Hmmm...I wonder why my Mandrake 8 install won't cooperate. I've reloaded the OS a half dozen times, each time more careful than the previous, and to make a long story short when you do the make absolutely nothing goes into the /var/qmail directory. The install basically goes nowhere. I also noticed that this directory has owner as root and group as root, which is the way it should be if you follow the instructions to the letter, but linuxconf whines that the qmail special users don't have access to the /var/qmail directory because they are in different groups. One thing: the /var directory is actually two 17GB SCSI drives running in Linux Raid 1 (mirroring). Do you think it's possible the mirroring is screwing things up? -Steve Just for the sake of argument I have a Mandrake 8 machine that runs qmail fine with the directions from LWQ I also have a Mandrake Cooker machine (pre8.1) that I installed qmail fine. Nothing wierd, just word for word from LWQ. Still I prefer debian but this was for a friend who likes the ease of Mandrake, and true enough its pretty simple. -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:24 PM To: David U. Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install Hi, I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install perfectly fine. I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a top choice. Steve Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? Mandrake 8 really went out the door with issues. I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine on both. Mandrake 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made secure as a server, but it installs a lot of client-side crap. sorry if that doesn't help, davidu -Original Message- From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble installing qmail on Mandrake 8? I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix it than install an older version of the operating system, which can present other issues. -Steve I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all different apps. So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs have been clean. I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at users and groups... Tina --- Steve Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I think I may have located the source of the trouble but it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and the Running qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created while logged in as root. That gives ownership to the user root in the group root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are added. The problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the created users, I receive a warning that the home directory of /var/qmail has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the cause of my problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and directory permissions, but in reading all the qmail documentation I can lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need to change the ownership and group of /var/qmail from root/root. Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile goes nowhere, and this all smells like a permissions issue. I'm running Mandrake 8. Thanks for your patient help. Steve. On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. Run strings - install | grep / and look for a fully- qualified path (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-)
Re: Portable RPM for qmail
You may distribute a precompiled package if installing your package produces exactly the same files, in exactly the same locations, that a user would obtain by installing one of my packages listed above; My RPM produces exactly the same file and directory structure with the exception that I have removed the cat pages. If that is a problem then they could be added back in. The RPM spec was generated by the hier.c code and I have verified the installed package with instcheck. I have applied my own patch which removes the uid/gid problems and I have added a redhat 6.2 style rc script. The source rpm contains the original qmail-1.03.tar.gz and my 2 patch files. your package behaves correctly, i.e., the same way as normal installations of my package on all other systems; and What exactly is meant by that? There is no standard installation procedure and there is no reference package so what constitutes correct behaviour? your package's creator warrants that he has made a good-faith attempt to ensure that your package behaves correctly. I have built the package to be used by myself so I warrant that I have made a good-faith attempt to ensure that the package behaves correctly, but thay may change depending on what is meant by 'correct behavious' in point 2. All installations must work the same way; any variation is a bug. If there's something about a system (compiler, libraries, kernel, hardware, whatever) that changes the behavior of my package, then that platform is not supported, and you are not permitted to distribute binaries for it. All installations must work the same way as what? My RPM is built for RedHat 6.2 only. I have built the RPM's for my own use but I would like to do what I see a a service to the community and make them available to help rid the world of sendmail. I hope that the barrier to doing this is not too great. John. Vincent Schonau wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 04:33:43PM +1000, John Newbigin wrote: My second question is about the licence for qmail. Despite all my looking I can't find it. Can someone point me to the licence or summarise what I can do with a binary RPM. URL:http://cr.yp.to/distributors.html Vince. -- Information Technology Innovation Group Swinburne University. Melbourne, Australia http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn
Help with qmail-smtpd logging
I have qmail, qmail-smtpd, and qmail-pop3d running on my system, all in default configurations (in /var/qmail/*, using daemontools/tcpserver, etc.). Qmail-pop3d is nicely running and logging things, but qmail-smtpd is dumping all messages to the console (tty1) - can anyone help me fix this? It's driving me nuts, as I obviously now have no log of what's going on with my smtp server. Here's the /service/qmail-smtpd/run script: #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild` NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200 \ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l 0 -c $MAXSMTPD \ -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21 and the /service/qmail-smtpd/log/run script: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail/smtpd and for comparison (the working config, I can read logfiles/whatnot) the qmail-pop3d/run and log/run files: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200 \ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l 0 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \ iron.tetsubo.com /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 21 #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t \ /var/log/qmail/pop3d Please note I'm not subscribed to the mailing list. Thanks for any help! dave
Re: Help with qmail-smtpd logging
I'm no expert, but since I've just been setting up my own qmail, some of this is still freshly confusing for me! Did you remember to do all of the following? chmod +t /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd chown qmaill:nofiles /var/log/qmail/smtpd chmod 2700 /var/log/qmail/smtpd chmod 755 (both of your run files) From: Dave Fallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Help with qmail-smtpd logging Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:18:36 -0700 I have qmail, qmail-smtpd, and qmail-pop3d running on my system, all in default configurations (in /var/qmail/*, using daemontools/tcpserver, etc.). Qmail-pop3d is nicely running and logging things, but qmail-smtpd is dumping all messages to the console (tty1) - can anyone help me fix this? It's driving me nuts, as I obviously now have no log of what's going on with my smtp server. Here's the /service/qmail-smtpd/run script: #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild` NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200 \ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l 0 -c $MAXSMTPD \ -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21 and the /service/qmail-smtpd/log/run script: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail/smtpd and for comparison (the working config, I can read logfiles/whatnot) the qmail-pop3d/run and log/run files: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200 \ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l 0 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \ iron.tetsubo.com /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 21 #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t \ /var/log/qmail/pop3d Please note I'm not subscribed to the mailing list. Thanks for any help! dave _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Integrating the logs
I have my different daemons logging into the various log subdirectories via multilog. My problem now is integrating them so that I have a continuous line of activity from the beginning to end for a given email. For example, I can do a tail -f current log for qmail-pop3 while running tests. However, I would like to know what related activities are occurring in other logs for this same email test. I have pulled the following info about qmail-analog from the following length thread in the archives. It includes an example script. I cut/paste quickly, so not everyone gets the credit they deserve for their posts in this thread. I have at minimum two questions after reading all of the info below: 1) what are all the z... files in the example script? for ana in zoverall zddist zdeferrals zfailures zrhosts zsuids zrxdelay; 2) where is a real working example of qmail-mrtg? == I want to know how many messages were sent/failed etc. for a given period of time (say the last three days). I have done the following in both /var/log/qmail/qmail-send and /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd (I'll admit my ignorance and say that I don't know the difference between the two. Is qmail-send local deliveries and qmail-smtpd remote deliveries?): 1) Ran matchup on /var/log/qmail/qmail-send(smtpd)/current 2) Converted the matchedup version of current into human readable format using tai64nlocal 3) Pulled out dates for which I want to see log results from the file created above 4) Convert the data above to tai64 format using tai64n 5) Ran this data through zoverall to see qmailanalog results Regardless of whether I run it against /var/log/qmail/qmail-send or /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd I get the following: Completed messages: 0 Total delivery attempts: 0 Am I anywhere near doing this right? Here are my actual commands 1) cat /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd/current | /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/matchup /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd/matchedup 2) cat /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd/matchedup | /usr/local/bin/tai64nlocal human_readable_current 3) vi human_readable_current (remove all unneeded data) 4) cat /var/log/qmail/qmail-send/human_readable_current | /usr/local/bin/tai64n tai64_current 5) cat ./tai64_current | /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/zoverall overall_log No. qmail-smtpd is incoming mail via SMTP. qmail-send is all deliveries, local and remote. No. Instead of converting the tai64n timestamps to human-readable, you need to convert them to the fractional seconds (tai) that qmail-analog expects. You can do this with tai64n2tai, included in Bruce Guenter's qlogtools package if I remember correctly. His software is at untroubled.org. Thanks for the info Charles, but I'm confused. How do most of you folks pull out information from your logs? Log files generated by qmail are unreadable/unusable in the current (multilog) format. In order for them to make sense to me, and in order to sift them for specific dates I have to convert them to human readable format. I can do this with tai64nlocal. Once I have removed data that is not pertinent I then have to change them back into multilog format using tai64n, and then convert them into the older TAI64 format that qmailanalog understands, then run them through the qmailanalog scripts. Wow, that's a convoluted process using tools that until now had worked together to provide a graceful solution to my email needs. Thanks for the info Charles, but I'm confused. How do most of you folks pull out information from your logs? With qmail-analog, tai64nlocal, and less, in my case. Most people here probably use something similar. Log files generated by qmail are unreadable/unusable in the current (multilog) format. tai64n timestamps aren't supposed to be human readable. They're supposed to be easily parsable by programs. That's the whole point of tai64nlocal -- you log with tai64n timestamps, and if you want to read the log with human-readable timestamps, you do: tai64nlocal log | pager_of_choice Don't run the logs through tai64nlocal before they hit the disk. In order for them to make sense to me, and in order to sift them for specific dates I have to convert them to human readable format. No, it's much simpler than that. A program to filter a log with tai64nlocal timestamps for particular dates is trivial; Bruce's qlogtools probably includes one (though I haven't checked). After you've filtered them, you run it through tai64nlocal before reading it. Once I have removed data that is not pertinent I then have to change them back into multilog format using tai64n, and then convert them into the older TAI64 format that qmailanalog understands, then run them through the qmailanalog scripts. Don't remove any data. What isn't pertinent? qmail-analog needs all of the various data that qmail-send logs to be able to accurately summarize it. I have a script that runs every night to give me a summary of the day's
Re: Integrating the logs
look for ISOQLOG nice - Original Message - From: pop corn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:00 AM Subject: Integrating the logs I have my different daemons logging into the various log subdirectories via multilog. My problem now is integrating them so that I have a continuous line of activity from the beginning to end for a given email. For example, I can do a tail -f current log for qmail-pop3 while running tests. However, I would like to know what related activities are occurring in other logs for this same email test. I have pulled the following info about qmail-analog from the following length thread in the archives. It includes an example script. I cut/paste quickly, so not everyone gets the credit they deserve for their posts in this thread. I have at minimum two questions after reading all of the info below: 1) what are all the z... files in the example script? for ana in zoverall zddist zdeferrals zfailures zrhosts zsuids zrxdelay; 2) where is a real working example of qmail-mrtg? == I want to know how many messages were sent/failed etc. for a given period of time (say the last three days). I have done the following in both /var/log/qmail/qmail-send and /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd (I'll admit my ignorance and say that I don't know the difference between the two. Is qmail-send local deliveries and qmail-smtpd remote deliveries?): 1) Ran matchup on /var/log/qmail/qmail-send(smtpd)/current 2) Converted the matchedup version of current into human readable format using tai64nlocal 3) Pulled out dates for which I want to see log results from the file created above 4) Convert the data above to tai64 format using tai64n 5) Ran this data through zoverall to see qmailanalog results Regardless of whether I run it against /var/log/qmail/qmail-send or /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd I get the following: Completed messages: 0 Total delivery attempts: 0 Am I anywhere near doing this right? Here are my actual commands 1) cat /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd/current | /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/matchup /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd/matchedup 2) cat /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd/matchedup | /usr/local/bin/tai64nlocal human_readable_current 3) vi human_readable_current (remove all unneeded data) 4) cat /var/log/qmail/qmail-send/human_readable_current | /usr/local/bin/tai64n tai64_current 5) cat ./tai64_current | /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/zoverall overall_log No. qmail-smtpd is incoming mail via SMTP. qmail-send is all deliveries, local and remote. No. Instead of converting the tai64n timestamps to human-readable, you need to convert them to the fractional seconds (tai) that qmail-analog expects. You can do this with tai64n2tai, included in Bruce Guenter's qlogtools package if I remember correctly. His software is at untroubled.org. Thanks for the info Charles, but I'm confused. How do most of you folks pull out information from your logs? Log files generated by qmail are unreadable/unusable in the current (multilog) format. In order for them to make sense to me, and in order to sift them for specific dates I have to convert them to human readable format. I can do this with tai64nlocal. Once I have removed data that is not pertinent I then have to change them back into multilog format using tai64n, and then convert them into the older TAI64 format that qmailanalog understands, then run them through the qmailanalog scripts. Wow, that's a convoluted process using tools that until now had worked together to provide a graceful solution to my email needs. Thanks for the info Charles, but I'm confused. How do most of you folks pull out information from your logs? With qmail-analog, tai64nlocal, and less, in my case. Most people here probably use something similar. Log files generated by qmail are unreadable/unusable in the current (multilog) format. tai64n timestamps aren't supposed to be human readable. They're supposed to be easily parsable by programs. That's the whole point of tai64nlocal -- you log with tai64n timestamps, and if you want to read the log with human-readable timestamps, you do: tai64nlocal log | pager_of_choice Don't run the logs through tai64nlocal before they hit the disk. In order for them to make sense to me, and in order to sift them for specific dates I have to convert them to human readable format. No, it's much simpler than that. A program to filter a log with tai64nlocal timestamps for particular dates is trivial; Bruce's qlogtools probably includes one (though I haven't checked). After you've filtered them, you run it through tai64nlocal before reading it. Once I have removed data that is not pertinent I then have to change them back into multilog format using tai64n, and then convert them into the older TAI64 format that qmailanalog understands, then run them through the qmailanalog
Problem with qmail-remote during Delivery
Hi there, Firstly, sorry for a long mail. I have sent 30,000 mails to different domains like yahoo, hotmail, rediff etc... Before mentioning the problem the configuration that I have used in qmailis as follows:- qmail config -- 1.) Two qmails running at /var/qmail and /var/qmail1 with silent concurrency limit to 200 for both The parameters below are the same in qmail-control of /var/qmail and /var/qmail1 2.) concurrencyremote = 150 3.) queuelifetime = 78400 4.) timeoutremote = 180 5.) timeoutsmtpd = 180 and all the others are default parameters. I have sent 30,000 mails, using qmail-inject of both qmail directories on rotation. All the 30,000 mails were put in queue with in 7 minutes and qmail-remote was also running parallelly to send mails. Now,as in the parameter concurrencyremote totally 300 ( 150from /var/qmail and 150 from /var/qmail1 ) qmail-remote processes have started sending mails. But, here cropped up the problem. Whenever a qmail-remote tries to send a mail to hotmail.com. it hangs for sometime. As I had 8000 out of 30,000 mails as hotmail ID's the number of occurrence's of hotmail were more. So, the 300 qmail-remote processes were just hanging, trying to send those mails. So, whenever one process time-out , it gives way for other mail's to be sent. SO, Due to this it took nearly 24HOURS to SEND all the mails. I feelsending 30,000 mailswould have finishedin less that 20 minutes if this situation is avoided Was I wrong at any config ? how can we avoid these situations ??? Is there any waythat qmail-remote can implicitly drop sending these for some time ?? BTW what is this silent concurrency limit different to concurrency remote ??? Thanks Regards,Rajesh,tech solutions,[EMAIL PROTECTED],Intercept Consulting - INDIA.
Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of the Internet pornography industry. That is a good technical figure of merit, because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting lots and lots of hits. Actually, Linux and FreeBSD are the systems of choice in startup porn companies because of their low cost. Once a company begins to move major traffic they find that low cost systems have too many limitations to handle what the leaders of the company want to do. This is when they use their new found wealth to buy Solaris.
Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of the Internet pornography industry. That is a good technical figure of merit, because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting lots and lots of hits. Actually, Linux and FreeBSD are the systems of choice in startup porn companies because of their low cost. Once a company begins to move major traffic they find that low cost systems have too many limitations to handle what the leaders of the company want to do. This is when they use their new found wealth to buy Solaris. This is now officially a troll. So next time you see an installation for a porn site pushing over 300Mbps that's running Solaris, show me/tell me: I'll be amazed. Linux is what most startup porn joints use because they're new to the business and Linux has hype and media attention. Once the traffic gets up there, the traffic starts to exceed 60-120Mbps, then you'll see a switch from Linux to FreeBSD. In there somewhere you'll see them experiment with Solaris and watch it crumble and fail miserably in the Mbps / $ calculation. Solaris is good for running on redundant hardware where you can hot-swap anything out at any time to maintain real 24/7. Go back to your hobbit hole or email me and I'll setup a different list to talk about the merits of various operating systems that I've used in my day and the various installations/companies I've done work for. This thread is now officially dead unless resurrected on a different mailing list. -sc -- Sean Chittenden PGP signature
Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of the Internet pornography industry. That is a good technical figure of merit, because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting lots and lots of hits. Actually, Linux and FreeBSD are the systems of choice in startup porn companies because of their low cost. Once a company begins to move major traffic they find that low cost systems have too many limitations to handle what the leaders of the company want to do. This is when they use their new found wealth to buy Solaris. Oh, give me a BREAK. What, do you work for Sun? If you want to troll, may I suggest Lake Ontario, with 4 shiners, for good salmon fishing.
svscan help
Does any know how to fix this error starting
svscan?
env: invalid option - - P
Try `env --help' for more information;
#!/bin/sh
PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/var/qmail/bincase
"$1" in
start) echo -n "Starting djb
services: svscan" cd
/service env - PATH="$PATH" svscan
echo $!
/var/run/svscan.pid echo
"." ;;
stop) echo -n "Stopping djb
services: svscan" kill `cat
/var/run/svscan.pid` echo -n
"services " svc -dx
/service/* echo -n "
logging" svc -dx
/service/*/log echo
"." ;;
restart) $0
stop $0
start ;;
*) echo 'Usage: svscan
{start|stop|restart}' exit
1esacexit 0
Re: svscan help
What does
echo $PATH
say?
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Kevin Roberts wrote:
Does any know how to fix this error starting svscan?
env: invalid option - - P
Try `env --help' for more information;
#!/bin/sh
PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/var/qmail/bin
case $1 in
start)
echo -n Starting djb services: svscan
cd /service
env - PATH=$PATH svscan
echo $! /var/run/svscan.pid
echo .
;;
stop)
echo -n Stopping djb services: svscan
kill `cat /var/run/svscan.pid`
echo -n services
svc -dx /service/*
echo -n logging
svc -dx /service/*/log
echo .
;;
restart)
$0 stop
$0 start
;;
*)
echo 'Usage: svscan {start|stop|restart}'
exit 1
esac
exit 0
RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
Umm..wasn't the 2G file limit fixed in the 2.0 kernels? --- David T. Ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just be careful about Linux because it has a maximum 2G file size (size for a single file). This can get in the way of some search engines which build large random-access files that exceed 2G. But it should not pose any kind of a problem for mail, especially if MAILDIR format is used. I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of the Internet pornography industry. That is a good technical figure of merit, because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting lots and lots of hits. If Free BSD breaks the 2G limit, I'd go with Free BSD. Dave. -Original Message- From: root [mailto:root]On Behalf Of Federico Edelman Anaya Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and I don't know what hard can I buy? :) Thanks very much! __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
