Re: CSVirus
In regards to viri and Dr. Becker: Dr. Becker had no mechanism by which to study the effect of silver on a virus ( virii are too small to be viewed by a normal microscope ). As an orthopedic surgeon interested in bacterial infections and tissue regeneration, virii also fall outside his scope of both interest and practice. In his book The Body Electric, he didn't go into too much detail about what bacteria silver did or didn't kill ( but he DID qualify that it WAS bacteria ), because it became readily obvious that it killed them all. His work notes a distinct effect of silver ions on human cell morphology, but he never addressed viral conditions. By direct action or some other catalyst action, silver IS apparently at least partially effective against a number of viral conditions. There is growing evidence that CS is effective against Hepatitis C, HIV, and some forms of the Herpes Virus. Miraculous recoveries from Hep C are becoming more common in testimonial reports where laboratory blood analysis shows a dramatic drop in viral counts. I myself have had lengthly correspondance with a few individuals who have been using colloidal silver, successfully, for in excess of three years in combating AIDS. One reported case bears repeating, as it demonstrates both the promise and the problem: Individual is clinically diagnosed with AIDS and given only a few months to live. Individual learns of colloidal silver and purchases a simple battery generator. As time passes, the symptoms of AIDS are elleviated completely. MD is at a loss for an explanation, but insists it is not the silver. 6.5 years pass, individuals T-cell counts and viral loads remain excellent, but the condition is not cured. MD infectuous disease specialist has monitored the condition during this time. Individual finally gets upset at MD and stops taking the silver to prove to MD that the silver is responsible for the good health. Within a matter of a few short months, the individual becomes very ill, and the T-cell counts rapidly begin to drop. MD states that it is not due to the lack of silver, but to start taking it again anyway. Individual starts back on the CS, but the condition is not as responsive as before. T-cell counts and viral loads start to stabilize, but the individual continues to have significant problems with eye sight, fatigue, and general well being. I was working to help the individual improve both CS production and use, when the individual stopped corresponding. The problem with these viral conditions, when it is effective, it can only be effective in parts of the body it can reach. This partial effectiveness is not an isolated event: http://www.health-truth.com/articles/hiv03.asp ( also available from our links page @ http://www.silvermedicine.org/links.html ) To quote ( more comments follow the quote ): ...Dr. Clark used her own unique electronic testing to determine the presence of the virus in the body and also did some HIV antigen testing. She confirmed that her patients tested negative for the HIV antigen after doing her program. Her program consisted of a parasite cleanse and a strict avoidance of many personal care items, household cleaners, foods and drinks that may contain the offending chemicals. I supervised hundreds of people through her program. Most found her program impossible to do. However, those who did follow it, even those that followed it poorly, did improve tremendously. In addition to the improvements, we did obtain approximately 30 cases of HIV antigens moving to negative after doing the program... and yet further: ...Around this time, the new HIV viral load test became available. The viral load test was billed as the most accurate test for the virus. The test measured the exact amounts of DNA of the virus in the blood. The test was designed to be used in cases where new HIV treatments were being tested for effectiveness. It was supposed to be the definitive word on the virus' activity. I had many of the antigen negative HIV patients go for the viral load test. To my horror, none of these patients had test scores in the negative range, which is what I was expecting. I spoke to one of the developers of the test for several hours one night by telephone. I explained to him the research I and Dr. Clark had been doing and the results of the viral load tests on these patients. Very graciously, he consoled me into confronting that Dr. Clark's program was not making people HIV negative. It was surely helping them, but not making them negative. At this point I went back to the drawing board. I remained level headed enough to see that while Dr. Clark's program may not be making people HIV negative, it still was helping people a great deal, so there were things right about it and truth to be had in it. Driving to the office one morning, I listened to a fellow colleague's radio show. He was interviewing a researcher who had cured Lyme's disease using colloidal silver. Silver was used in
CSot bentonite
Bob: Everything I can recommend on acquiring bentonite and other healing clays is currently located here: http://www.eytonsearth.org/eytonslinks.html Before chosing a source, you may want to delve into the basics of clay chemistry: http://www.eytonsearth.org/claychemistry.html Except for some new information: Alpha Omega labs has just recently introduced a line of clays: http://www.altcancer.com I'm not very interested in the kaolites, but I've ordered some of the pre-mix bentonite and some of the cedar montmorillonite for testing. The premix bentonite is from a quarry I haven't tested before ( I can tell by the shade of color ), and I'm hopeful that it is a low sodium bentonite. I throw the FDA grade clays in the garbage, personally, although I suppose products such as Pepto Bismol do a decent job of soothing a mild upset stomach. For the safety conscious, any USP grade bentonite is likely the best choice for internal use. Keep in mind internal use without the clay baths is far less advantageous for detoxification purposes There may be great differences in the quality of clays, but in consideration of baths, I still utilize a technical grade 325 mesh bentonite, as the act of purchasing higher graded clays ( or in my case mining clay for baths ) requires a good deal of resources. There is no substitute for natural, unprocessed clay, it is just very difficult to find. An interesting article: http://www.cleanse.net/bentonite.HTM If Dr. Anderson holds the world record for ingesting bentonite by drinking 1/4 cup, I must hold the universe record. In an attempt ( successful ) to enduce bentonite adsorption in minute quantities into the blood stream, I at one time drank between an estimated 1-2 liters daily for a period of six months... which I don't, offhand, suggest anyone do without some great forethought! In the event of a nuclear disaster, one of the US Army's emergency protocols for securing and protecting food sources includes administering 300 grams of bentonite per cow per day... They did just enough of a study to show a 55% decrease in the cesnium levels of a cow's milk to justify protocol inclusion. Pretty bright guys, those army researchers. I personally think they have that included just as much to have onhand for their own staff as for the animals ( FIELD MANUAL NO. 8-10-18, HEADQUARTERS DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY Washington, DC, Veteriniary Service Tactics, Techniques, and Services ). It is even more effective with systemic toxification ( chemicals, radiation, heavy metals ) when used in clay baths. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: ppl...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 10:57 PM Subject: Re: CSAgainst smallpox HiJust read this on small pox and other virus. Where can we get hydrated bentonite and how do we use it to get rid of toxins. please reply ppl...@aol.com Bob Little -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: smallpox
In a message dated 12/15/02 3:11:15 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Pres. Bush got vaccinated yesterday Now if anyone really believes this damn, dumber than I thought! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVirus
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:23:53 -0800, Jason Eaton wrote in 02cd01c2a413$4f577220$f6106...@cc160766a: In regards to viri and Dr. Becker: [text snipped] That was extremely interesting, many thanks! Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: smallpox
Thanks for all answers to my smallpox question. Andrew - Original Message - From: darocks...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 3:01 AM Subject: CSRe: smallpox In a message dated 12/15/02 3:11:15 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Pres. Bush got vaccinated yesterday Now if anyone really believes this damn, dumber than I thought! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVirus Comment
I would just like to add that most flu and colds are produced by a virus. The flu shot that people get are manufactured from a virus. Scientists or virus trackers try to figure out what virus will be causing a flu epidemic and make a vaccine out of it. You can go to www.Discovery.com and read all about virus tracking there. The bacterial infections that are caused are secondary to the virus. That at least has been my own personal experience. I suffer from asthma and when I get a cold which is caused by a virus, I usually come down with a secondary infection such as bronchitis or pneumonia. I have had pneumonia 4 times, I have had pleurisy several times, and I always get bronchitis at least 4 times a year! When I get bronchitis, it usually last for months even with antibiotics. This past September I had cold which turned into a very bad case of bronchitis which went into walking pneumonia, and I started taking CS for the first time through a nebulizer. Within one week my infection was gone, and I have not (knock on wood) had a recurrence. I would say CS does in fact affect viruses. Kendra On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:54:22 -0600 Brooks Bradley brooks.brad...@worldnet.att.net writes: Dear Sir, I believe you may be generalizing with too few datain summarily dismissing the effectivity of colloidal silver as a protocol against pathogenic viruses. We have, during the immediately past ten years, conducted over 60 investigative, direct research and protocol development programs..majority of which addressed viral agents. Our results have, almost universally, yielded effective colloidal silver address/protocols to the parent and companion pathogens. which we were investigating. I have no desire to engage in a dialogue over the mechanisim of address of CSfor controlling the replication sequence of viral agentsbut will suggest you employ the use of any reliable search engine in an effort to gain such information. Additionally, a reference to the existing Silver-List archives should yield useful information (at least I believe so). Please do not receive these comments as being adversarial in nature. They are meant to be of assistanceonly. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. ascottsil...@aol.com wrote: From: Heidrun Beer conc...@atnet.at To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWest Nile Virus snip I thought the C/S is killing bacteria? Is it effective against viruses too? Not to the best of my knowledge. CS seems to eliminate the side effects of bacteria that are caused by viruses (such as bronchitis or pneumonia) but not the virus itself. I think a guy named Robert O Becker claimed that CS killed 650 different pathogens in his book The Body Electric. Were they viruses, bacteria or just his best guess? He didn't say. This may have caused a lot of confusion. I would like to submit the idea that people who take CS and don't get colds (myself included) still get the virus, they just don't know it. The CS kills the bacteria caused by the virus. There are no bacteria fighting the white blood cells and putting toxins in the lymphatic system causing a herx syndrome (fever, muscle ache, headache, etc). I have seen lots of testimonials about what CS can do, but I haven't seen any real studies that show that it lowers or eliminates PCR viral loads. Bleach will kill viruses in a petrie dish but what is that worth?
Re: CSFreezing water to purify it for C S making !
From what I understand, with sea water, if you do not freeze more than 10% or so of it, the ice will be essentially as pure as distilled water. The problem is any entrapped water, and contamination. Thus it is best if you can put cold tubes into the water, and have it freeze to the tubes, producing a solid slick sheet of ice over the tubes, then rinse with pure water, and melt. When frozen slowly, like in a freezer, the ice crystals form throughout the water, and are hard to seperate without contamination. Marshall twll wrote: A few years ago I got something in the mail for freezingwater to make it pure.It sounded to good to be true so I discarded it.Anyway what would the PPM be for waterthat was purified like that if it worked like its suppose to?
Re: CSFrozen CS
You can freeze sea water and get virtually pure water in the ice. All the dissolved salts in sea water are ionic. I see no reason well water should be different. See http://www.usc.edu/CSSF/Current/Projects/22279.pdf for a science fair project on this. http://www.glencoe.com/sec/science/glencoescience/tutor/content/pdf/masters/gsr7_4.pdf But the best reference I can find is at http://howthingswork.virginia.edu/supplements/water_purification.pdf Dean Miller wrote: Hi Marshall, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 11:02:45 -0500, Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: When water freezes, the ice crystals produced are pure water, and what is left get concentrated. This continues until either the last part does not feeze at all, or it freezes together at a lower temperature. Thus CS gets concnetrated as it freezes, and aggregation can and will occur. A small amount of ice will not hurt, or even if maybe 70% or so freezes, but if you freeze it solid you will likely rreduce the ionic content, and increase the particle size. Have you ever frozen well water that has lots of dissolved minerals? Didn't the mineral freeze right along with the ice (as long as they were ionic)? I'd suspect the ionic portion of CS will freeze right along with the water (haven't tried it) and only the larger silver particles will settle out -- but that would happen with the CS even if it wasn't frozen. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgainst smallpox
Malcolm Stebbins wrote: And as a related question, does anyone know whether CS is of any use against Mad Cow (or Elk, or Mink, or Deer, or ??) disease? Happy nightmares, Malcolm I don't believe it is. CS kills microorgamisms, and prions are not alive at all. I am unaware of any tests that have been done though. Of course on the bright side I have never heard of anyone taking CS getting any of these, but then they are pretty rare in the human population anyway. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgainst smallpox
Andy_ wrote: Hello all. What is the general consensus about CS being good against smallpox? If the threat gets more real will you refuse vaccination and rely on CS? Absolutely. I am not afraid of smallpox, but I am afraid of the vaccine. CS should work fine with smallpox, but will not assist at all with any poisons or toxins they are added to the vaccine. There is good evidence that the smallpox vaccine caused the polio epidemic of the 50's, and that lots of us who received it in the 50's are now getting cancers from viruses that were in the vaccine other than small/cow pox. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStomach ulcers
form...@aol.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has used CS successfully for stomach ulcers. Yep. Since it has been discovered that stomach ulcers are caused by bacteria, I thought it might be useful to use CS to heal them. If anyone has used CS for this, I'd appreciate hearing about it and just what your protocol was. My wife's brother found that CS helped his ulcers much better than what the doctor gave him. In fact the doctor told him he would have to take some medicine all his life and would still have problems, but reported that after CS for a few days they went away without his needing the medicine at all. Marshall Thanks, Summer
Re: CSFrozen CS
The saturation point of the water will be reduced and any ionic content that won't stay in solution will drop out as colloidal particles. The only question is, how big? Ken At 01:07 PM 12/14/02 -0600, you wrote: Hi Marshall, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 11:02:45 -0500, Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: When water freezes, the ice crystals produced are pure water, and what is left get concentrated. This continues until either the last part does not feeze at all, or it freezes together at a lower temperature. Thus CS gets concnetrated as it freezes, and aggregation can and will occur. A small amount of ice will not hurt, or even if maybe 70% or so freezes, but if you freeze it solid you will likely rreduce the ionic content, and increase the particle size. Have you ever frozen well water that has lots of dissolved minerals? Didn't the mineral freeze right along with the ice (as long as they were ionic)? I'd suspect the ionic portion of CS will freeze right along with the water (haven't tried it) and only the larger silver particles will settle out -- but that would happen with the CS even if it wasn't frozen. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVirus
ascottsil...@aol.com wrote: From: Heidrun Beer conc...@atnet.at To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWest Nile Virus snip I thought the C/S is killing bacteria? Is it effective against viruses too? Not to the best of my knowledge. CS seems to eliminate the side effects of bacteria that are caused by viruses (such as bronchitis or pneumonia) but not the virus itself. I think a guy named Robert O Becker claimed that CS killed 650 different pathogens in his book The Body Electric. Were they viruses, bacteria or just his best guess? He didn't say. This may have caused a lot of confusion. I would like to submit the idea that people who take CS and don't get colds (myself included) still get the virus, they just don't know it. The CS kills the bacteria caused by the virus. Where you get the idea that viruses can produce bacteria? A virus is a small piece of DNA, a bacteria is a full organism with a cell wall and contains dozens of dna strands. Where would all the information come from to produce the other dna strands even if this were possible? Marshall
CSpurple CS
Once again I made a batch of 24+ PPM CS, split it into two identical containers and placed one on the kitchen counter [near a North side window] and the other in the bathroom [in the center of the house]. The portion on the counter went purple in 3 days, the portion in the bathroom stayed Crystal clear. BUT, now...a week later... the portion on the counter is once again without color. The only difference is a very heavy TE. It has been clearing up over the past few days. There is no dropout. Both containers have been tipped up every day to dispense the CS. Wassup? ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpurple CS
Wow! Well purple's (actualy violet's) complement is deep red, and red means the largest particles possible that still absorb in the visible spectrum. So if the particles continued growing, the absorption would move into the infrared (wherease normally clear CS is absorbing in the UV), which means the CS would become clear again. But since the particles are very large, and the tyndall goes up with the fourth power of the size, it would have a very strong tyndall, as long as it did not fall out. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Once again I made a batch of 24+ PPM CS, split it into two identical containers and placed one on the kitchen counter [near a North side window] and the other in the bathroom [in the center of the house]. The portion on the counter went purple in 3 days, the portion in the bathroom stayed Crystal clear. BUT, now...a week later... the portion on the counter is once again without color. The only difference is a very heavy TE. It has been clearing up over the past few days. There is no dropout. Both containers have been tipped up every day to dispense the CS. Wassup? ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFreezing water to purify it for C S making !
The ice as formed would be pure, but it would still be contaminated by any bird droppings, shoes of ice fishermen, feet of any animals that crossed, dust settling, or any animal dung or pee. Marshall Grant wrote: So would that mean then if you took the top 6 of ice off of a 20 ft. deep lake, the ice would be pure..?? Grant.. Marshall Dudley wrote: From what I understand, with sea water, if you do not freeze more than 10% or so of it, the ice will be essentially as pure as distilled water. The problem is any entrapped water, and contamination. Thus it is best if you can put cold tubes into the water, and have it freeze to the tubes, producing a solid slick sheet of ice over the tubes, then rinse with pure water, and melt. When frozen slowly, like in a freezer, the ice crystals form throughout the water, and are hard to seperate without contamination. Marshall twll wrote: A few years ago I got something in the mail for freezingwater to make it pure.It sounded to good to be true so I discarded it.Anyway what would the PPM be for waterthat was purified like that if it worked like its suppose to? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFreezing water to purify it for C S making !
Water is often desalinated by freezing. Icebergs are fresh water. Icehouse beer is made stronger by freezing. Ever consumed a semi frozen can of beer? It's very strong. How much achohol remains in the ice, I don't know, but it's obvious that most of it doesn't stay in the ice. My well water has a lot of iron in it..and iron bacteria that sometimes gets thick enough to make the water smell swamp skunky. Freezing it drops out the orangy stuff and freshens the flavor and smell. The water may stink but the ice cubes are just fine. Ken At 12:08 PM 12/14/02 -0800, you wrote: Hooo Boy! Here we go with eutectics, solubility curves, sequestration an' who knows what-all. I hope someone really knows the field, and will respond on the list. About all I'm aware of is that maple sap can be concentrated into syrup by freezing rather than the usual wood-wasting process of boiling it (the water) off. At 12:16 PM 12/14/02 -0500, you wrote: A few years ago I got something in the mail for freezing water to make it pure.It sounded to good to be true so I discarded it.Anyway what would the PPM be for water that was purified like that if it worked like its suppose to? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFreezing water to purify it for C S making !
So would that mean then if you took the top 6 of ice off of a 20 ft. deep lake, the ice would be pure..?? Grant.. Marshall Dudley wrote: From what I understand, with sea water, if you do not freeze more than 10% or so of it, the ice will be essentially as pure as distilled water. The problem is any entrapped water, and contamination. Thus it is best if you can put cold tubes into the water, and have it freeze to the tubes, producing a solid slick sheet of ice over the tubes, then rinse with pure water, and melt. When frozen slowly, like in a freezer, the ice crystals form throughout the water, and are hard to seperate without contamination. Marshall twll wrote: A few years ago I got something in the mail for freezingwater to make it pure.It sounded to good to be true so I discarded it.Anyway what would the PPM be for waterthat was purified like that if it worked like its suppose to? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEar Infection
Hi, Has anyone successfully treated an ear infection with CS, and if so what was the protocol? I realize this has probably been discussed at length before on this forum, but I've checked the archives and came up with no matches. It seems that the search engine isn't working for the archives, because I haven't been able to come up with a match for any search. Anyway, my 4 year old son is in pain and I thought I'd consult you guys. Thanks, Ted -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStomach ulcers
Just for you information, a PPM meter will register the salt along with the CS. ..and you don't need to use salt. Most prefer not to. ken At 01:07 AM 12/15/02 -0600, you wrote: Summer: When my husband and I met he had this HUGE bag of pills for his nasty ulcer. He was in the military and went to the VA hospital where he was diagnosed with it. Well, to make a long story short, a few months later I found out about cs from my mother. My poor husband was my guinea pig. We were SO terrified of that first sip! I use 9 volts and boil my distilled water and use a kosher salt saline solution. I think I left the rods in for 10 min. I cured with CS what that bag of medicine could not. With my current set up with 1 9 volt stacked on 2 other 9 volts with 2 alligator clip thingies from radio shack (very simple because I'm lazy) my ppm meter says I make 120ppm cs. I administered 6oz a day and that 6oz cup was imbibed at once, not throughout the day. I filter with a coffee filter. As an added note, my husband also has acid reflux. Everytime it acts up (I'm REALLY lazy about making cs) he begs me to make the cs. We celebrate the cs help with a nice helping of jalepenos on SOMETHING. (Ordinarily with acid reflux and said ulcer he couldn't eat jalepenos). So the moral of my story is...My husband's ulcer IS gone after drinking cs. The other moral of the story is...Even if you have a BEEG BEEG bag of medicine, it doesn't mean the ulcer is going away. We've learned the hard way, doctors are WAY overpaid. Jessica Bureaucracy is a giant mechanism operated by pygmies --Honore de Balzac - Original Message - From: mailto:form...@aol.com>form...@aol.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 12:11 AM Subject: CS>Stomach ulcers Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has used CS successfully for stomach ulcers. Since it has been discovered that stomach ulcers are caused by bacteria, I thought it might be useful to use CS to heal them. If anyone has used CS for this, I'd appreciate hearing about it and just what your protocol was. Thanks, Summer -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStomach ulcers
Brooks, Please send the summary to the list. I looked in the archives, and the information was not too helpfull. Blessings, Jannette However, I will endeavor to have someone on staff to furnish me a coherent summary of the particular study on heliobacter pylori protocols involving colloidal silverand will try tlo post it to the list. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFrozen CS
Hi Marshall, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 11:39:48 -0500, Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: You can freeze sea water and get virtually pure water in the ice. All the dissolved salts in sea water are ionic. I see no reason well water should be different. I agree, freezing salt water will produce mostly pure water ice. But ... have you ever had a Popsicle? :) Ivan can probably tell us what conditions are necessary to freeze substances along with the ice. If I can find the time, I'll try freezing some CS and then melt and test it's ppm rating (now to find a glass ice cube tray). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEar Infection
Ted: Colloidal silver is extraordinarily effective against ear infections. Lay your son somewhere comfortable. Take a dropper and add CS to one ear; you can massage the ear ( underneath ) gently to be sure the colloidal silver reaches as deeply as possible. Leave the colloidal silver in the ear for twenty minutes if possible. Do the next ear. If possible, do this twice daily. I've never had definative results take longer than 48 hours. If you can GENTLY bring the colloidal silver up to body temperature before applying it, adding the CS to the ears will be more comfortable for your son. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Ted Lewis tlew...@ev1.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: CSEar Infection Hi, Has anyone successfully treated an ear infection with CS, and if so what was the protocol? I realize this has probably been discussed at length before on this forum, but I've checked the archives and came up with no matches. It seems that the search engine isn't working for the archives, because I haven't been able to come up with a match for any search. Anyway, my 4 year old son is in pain and I thought I'd consult you guys. Thanks, Ted -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFrozen CS
Dean Miller wrote: Hi Marshall, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 11:39:48 -0500, Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: You can freeze sea water and get virtually pure water in the ice. All the dissolved salts in sea water are ionic. I see no reason well water should be different. I agree, freezing salt water will produce mostly pure water ice. But ... have you ever had a Popsicle? :) Ivan can probably tell us what conditions are necessary to freeze substances along with the ice. Yes I have, and can distinctly remember sucking all the flavored juice out of them, leaving nothing but a clear icicle left. The same is true for icies or slushies, which I still do. In this case you have fairly pure ice crystals, intermixed with frozen or liquid water with solute in it. As I had said earlier, once the concentration of solute becomes too great, then the whole mass will end up freezing at a much lower temperature than pure water. The trick it to cool rapidly enough that crystals do not have time to grow significantly before the mass gets below the freezing point of the mixture. Marshall If I can find the time, I'll try freezing some CS and then melt and test it's ppm rating (now to find a glass ice cube tray). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpurple CS
When you see violet, it is absorbing red. You see the complement of what is being absorbed (I.E. directly across the color wheel). I am surprised you did not see the yellow, orange and so forth though. Of course the other possibility, although quite unlikely, is that you go some of the bacteria that convert silver to gold in there. If so, then save the stuff, you could turn that into a highly profitable operation. That this is possible is not accepted by most scientists, although there is good evidence it does happen under certain circumstances. Marshall Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Well, it did develop a very strong TE but never went towards red. The violet just gradually faded away. It never went through a yellow stage before going to violet either. [unless the phases were very brief and I missed both phenomenon] ken At 12:20 PM 12/15/02 -0500, you wrote: Wow! Well purple's (actualy violet's) complement is deep red, and red means the largest particles possible that still absorb in the visible spectrum. So if the particles continued growing, the absorption would move into the infrared (wherease normally clear CS is absorbing in the UV), which means the CS would become clear again. But since the particles are very large, and the tyndall goes up with the fourth power of the size, it would have a very strong tyndall, as long as it did not fall out. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Once again I made a batch of 24+ PPM CS, split it into two identical containers and placed one on the kitchen counter [near a North side window] and the other in the bathroom [in the center of the house]. The portion on the counter went purple in 3 days, the portion in the bathroom stayed Crystal clear. BUT, now...a week later... the portion on the counter is once again without color. The only difference is a very heavy TE. It has been clearing up over the past few days. There is no dropout. Both containers have been tipped up every day to dispense the CS. Wassup? ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWest Nile Virus
Evening Linda, Does anyone have any info for me on this subject that can help me understand how long I will be ill with this? Have you read the report on the horses that had the IV injection of CS? If I had West Nile, or any one of many other things, I would consider getting an IV of CS, or H2O2. Many of the best, and only treatments are hard to find and obscure. Wayne
Re: CSStomach ulcers
PREWhere do youbuy your ppm meter for testing cs? Doesthe temp. of the water affect the reading?-Thank you!- Joe -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBecker and CS -- NOT
R. O. Becker MD made no claims whatsoever about CS in his book The Body Electric, and certainly not the well-known 650 claim. JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpurple CS
Well, it did develop a very strong TE but never went towards red. The violet just gradually faded away. It never went through a yellow stage before going to violet either. [unless the phases were very brief and I missed both phenomenon] ken At 12:20 PM 12/15/02 -0500, you wrote: Wow! Well purple's (actualy violet's) complement is deep red, and red means the largest particles possible that still absorb in the visible spectrum. So if the particles continued growing, the absorption would move into the infrared (wherease normally clear CS is absorbing in the UV), which means the CS would become clear again. But since the particles are very large, and the tyndall goes up with the fourth power of the size, it would have a very strong tyndall, as long as it did not fall out. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Once again I made a batch of 24+ PPM CS, split it into two identical containers and placed one on the kitchen counter [near a North side window] and the other in the bathroom [in the center of the house]. The portion on the counter went purple in 3 days, the portion in the bathroom stayed Crystal clear. BUT, now...a week later... the portion on the counter is once again without color. The only difference is a very heavy TE. It has been clearing up over the past few days. There is no dropout. Both containers have been tipped up every day to dispense the CS. Wassup? ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS question... purchase
Hi I order CS from Russ at naturalhealingsolutions.com. Does anyone know how I can obtain the same value and partical size CS more affordably? Mic... working to rid myself of candida (presently taking CS, MSM, and oil of oregano) Ted: Colloidal silver is extraordinarily effective against ear infections. Lay your son somewhere comfortable. Take a dropper and add CS to one ear; you can massage the ear ( underneath ) gently to be sure the colloidal silver reaches as deeply as possible. Leave the colloidal silver in the ear for twenty minutes if possible. Do the next ear. If possible, do this twice daily. I've never had definative results take longer than 48 hours. If you can GENTLY bring the colloidal silver up to body temperature before applying it, adding the CS to the ears will be more comfortable for your son. Best Regards, Jason -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS question... purchase
Hi Michelle, Make your own. It's less than a dollar per gallon to make at home. Trem - Original Message - From: Michele Lee ml...@firelandsschools.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: CSCS question... purchase Hi I order CS from Russ at naturalhealingsolutions.com. Does anyone know how I can obtain the same value and partical size CS more affordably? Mic... working to rid myself of candida (presently taking CS, MSM, and oil of oregano) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS question... purchase
I have no idea how to do that Mic Sorry to be on this list and be this clueless. I joined after my CS was frozen on my front porch (after delivery). Now I wonder if I need to throw the stuff out. Hi Michelle, Make your own. It's less than a dollar per gallon to make at home. Trem -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSQuestion- is 20 ppm very good?
Friends, I seem to have forgotten how strong the CS should be. Lee Elder -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS question... purchase
Its easy just take 2 pieces of .999 pure silver I use wire that (I bought from a jewelry store for $10) space them apart a few inches suspended in distilled water (I buy mine from walmart for 58 cents a gallon) connect the wires to 3 9volt batteries connected together I use wires with alligator clips on both ends leave in for about an hour to 3 hours depending on how much water you use and how strong you want it sincerely Joseph Fritz At 07:03 PM 12/15/2002 -0500, you wrote: I have no idea how to do that Mic Sorry to be on this list and be this clueless. I joined after my CS was frozen on my front porch (after delivery). Now I wonder if I need to throw the stuff out. Hi Michelle, Make your own. It's less than a dollar per gallon to make at home. Trem -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStomach ulcers
Hi Joe: I heat the water because I read that I get higher ppm's that way when I bought my first generator. I bought my ppm meter from ebay for 20.00 I believe. I'll have to look up the name of the person I bought it from because ebay seems to have banned any reference to cs. If I haven't found the name within 24 hours please remind me and I'll get it to you asap. Jessica Bureaucracy is a giant mechanism operated by pygmies --Honore de Balzac -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVirus Comment
Dear Brooks, I was generalizing without enough data. That was the reason for my post, to acquire more data. Also, I don't believe I was dismissing the effectivity (new word) of colloidal silver as a protocol against pathogenic viruses. I would assume that many of the people on this list believe that CS has some powerful properties or they wouldn't be here, myself included (unless of course they were motivated by profit). My question was why hasn't someone like yourself published their findings in a medical or scientific journal. Perhaps you have, and my search engines haven't found them yet. Specifically, I was interested in medical trials that measured the viral load of several subjects over time as CS was administered. So far, all I have been able to find is testimonial. I mentioned PCR testing because replicating the virus is the only way to measure the viral load of HIV, hepatitis and other hard to detect viruses. Thank you for your assistance. Respectfully yours, Andy Scott From: Brooks Bradley brooks.brad...@worldnet.att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVirus Comment Dear Sir, I believe you may be generalizing with too few datain summarily dismissing the effectivity of colloidal silver as a protocol against pathogenic viruses. We have, during the immediately past ten years, conducted over 60 investigative, direct research and protocol development programs..majority of which addressed viral agents. Our results have, almost universally, yielded effective colloidal silver address/protocols to the parent and companion pathogens. which we were investigating. I have no desire to engage in a dialogue over the mechanisim of address of CSfor controlling the replication sequence of viral agentsbut will suggest you employ the use of any reliable search engine in an effort to gain such information. Additionally, a reference to the existing Silver-List archives should yield useful information (at least I believe so). Please do not receive these comments as being adversarial in nature. They are meant to be of assistanceonly. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. ascottsil...@aol.com wrote: From: Heidrun Beer conc...@atnet.at To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWest Nile Virus snip I thought the C/S is killing bacteria? Is it effective against viruses too? Not to the best of my knowledge. CS seems to eliminate the side effects of bacteria that are caused by viruses (such as bronchitis or pneumonia) but not the virus itself. I think a guy named Robert O Becker claimed that CS killed 650 different pathogens in his book The Body Electric. Were they viruses, bacteria or just his best guess? He didn't say. This may have caused a lot of confusion. I would like to submit the idea that people who take CS and don't get colds (myself included) still get the virus, they just don't know it. The CS kills the bacteria caused by the virus. There are no bacteria fighting the white blood cells and putting toxins in the lymphatic system causing a herx syndrome (fever, muscle ache, headache, etc). I have seen lots of testimonials about what CS can do, but I haven't seen any real studies that show that it lowers or eliminates PCR viral loads. Bleach will kill viruses in a petrie dish but what is that worth?
Re: CSVirus
Hi Malcolm, You are probably right. I remember someone made a claim that CS killed 650 different pathogens, I thought it was Becker. Andy From: Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVirus I'm afraid you are causing the confusion; Dr. Becker was not researching CS, and made no claims about it other than mentioning his own use of iontophoretically induced silver ions to heal a bacterial bone infection. Since then he has done some other work involving forms of silver and healing/regeneration, but it is not a subject discussed in The Body Electric, and not at all what you attribute to him. Furthermore, CS has been tested in vivo as well as in vitro against some virii fungi and molds and proven to be effective. Anecdotal evidence supports its effectiveness in respiratory infections of a viral nature. The body's reactions to viral and bacterial respiratory insults are typically very different, easily distinguished.
Re: CSVirus
Jason, Thank you for more testimonial Andy From: Jason Eaton ey...@lvcm.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVirus snip Miraculous recoveries from Hep C are becoming more common in testimonial reports where laboratory blood analysis shows a dramatic drop in viral counts. snip One reported case bears repeating, snip http://www.health-truth.com/articles/hiv03.asp ( also available from our links page @ http://www.silvermedicine.org/links.html ) To quote ( more comments follow the quote ): snip and yet further: snip and further snipWe have also found that blending extra virgin olive oil snip[ end quote ]snip Best Regards, Jason
Re: CSAgainst smallpox
Andy_ wrote: Hello all. What is the general consensus about CS being good against smallpox? If the threat gets more real will you refuse vaccination and rely on CS? Absolutely. I am not afraid of smallpox, but I am afraid of the vaccine. CS should work fine with smallpox, but will not assist at all with any poisons or toxins they are added to the vaccine. There is good evidence that the smallpox vaccine caused the polio epidemic of the 50's, and that lots of us who received it in the 50's are now getting cancers from viruses that were in the vaccine other than small/cow pox. Marshall Marshall- I had not heard about the cancer connection. Do you have links? Do you know if that continued into the sixties? Thanks Sharon -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- If people are worried about endemic smallpox, it disappeared from this country not because of our mass herd immunity. It disappeared because of our economic development. And that's why it disappeared from Europe and many other countries, and it will not be sustained here, even if there were several importations, I'm sure. It's not from universal vaccination. Dr. Tom Mack Note that Dr. Mack is the highly regarded author of the study, Smallpox in Europe, 1950-1971, published in The Journal of Infectious Disease in 1972. No need to panic folks!!
Re: CSVirus
Hi Marshall, When people catch a cold from a virus, it often turns into bronchitis or pneumonia (bacterial infections). We also know that certain viruses such as hepatitis can cause cancer. I suggested that a virus might cause bacteria toxins to form in the lymphatic system. CS might kill the bacteria but not the virus. Also, a virus is not limited to DNA, it can also attach itself to a single stranded RNA. I just threw this out there for discussion but I will probably be punished for it grin. Best wishes, Andy Scott From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVirus Where you get the idea that viruses can produce bacteria? A virus is a small piece of DNA, a bacteria is a full organism with a cell wall and contains dozens of dna strands. Where would all the information come from to produce the other dna strands even if this were possible? Marshall
