from:"Jeff"

Thank you Steve. I wonder what I read that said otherwise.

Dorothy is was just DW and Silver. Perhaps it was a high ppm? I have no way to 
judge that yet.

Jeff






From: SJY you...@relia.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 11:41:34 PM
Subject: RE: CSGetting Started

 
Jeff,
 
You don’t need to store your EIS/CS
in amber bottles.  Clear bottles are fine – light doesn’t
affect EIS/CS made with only distilled water and pure silver electrodes.
 
Steve Y.

Re: CSGetting Started


I used distilled water from a store.
They were about 3 inches apart and then ~1 inch when I moved them. I used a 
piece of plastic and  cut slots to hold them the inch apart. 
I turned off the light to shine the laser. 
I used a plan that calls for a light bulb in circuit but that never lit. 

I do have a multimeter I can use and would love to find out how. I'm using a 
pickle jar to make some more at the moment. 

Thanks,
Jeff








From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 12:02:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started

Cloudy? What kind of water did you use?  How far apart were the electrodes at 
first, then how far apart when you moved them?  Did you use the laser in a dark 
room or was it well lit?  If you don't have a meter to check the conductivity 
of the water, do you have a multimeter to check the current flow and voltage? 

Kathryn

Re: CSGetting Started


I'm getting a buildup of gunk on one of the rods. I haven't seen this on any of 
the videos or pictures. Is this normal?

Here's an image if it helps: http://tinyurl.com/yfdskwb

Thank you,
Jeff

Re: CSGetting Started

I just checked and it's running 155mA. I'll go get a pot as suggested.

Does anyone know of a way to check ppm using voltage or conductivity somehow? 
As it is now I have no idea what my current batch would be.

I'm not getting any cloudiness this time. I wonder if I didn't rinse the glass 
enough with dw the first time.






From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 3:45:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started

Sort of- it looks like your current may be on the high side, otherwise it would 
not be so much. It is normal- the water electrolyzes, the silver picks it up 
and it turns to the gunk you see. To control the amount of gunk, you can 
control the current  more. That you can do with a resistor, diode or 
potentiometer in series.

If you clip your wires to a multimeter set to measure milliamps, it should read 
zero when you start- that means there is no current flowing through the water 
to speak of. As the silver ions continue to  go into the water, the 
conductivity increases and the current flow increases along with that. I forget 
what the details are (read formula is), but less than 1 mA current is a good 
idea if your silver surface area is under a certain - yours looks close to 
mine, and 1mA is what I am using. Just looking to see what the current is gives 
you some clues.

I got a 75 ohm potentiometer at the surplus store  and put it in series to keep 
a lid on the current. Maybe it was a dollar.

Kathryn



On Oct 18, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Jeff Maahs wrote:


I'm getting a buildup of gunk on one of the rods. I haven't seen this on any 
of the videos or pictures. Is this normal?

Here's an image if it helps: http://tinyurl.com/yfdskwb

Thank you,
Jeff

Re: CSGetting Started

Suddenly might light went off. duh. Thanks. So now I'm circumventing that 
because I have the meter in the second set of holes in each leg of the lamp 
base!







From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 4:57:33 PM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started

The bulb's not supposed to light, except if you short the electrodes
together. It's just there to limit the current.

Chuck

Anybody who doesn't know what soap tastes like never washed a dog.

Re: CSGetting Started

2009-10-17 Thread Jeff Maahs

 Finally made my first batch. The silver arrived today and I put together 4 9v 
batteries and started the process. Over an hour and nothing happened. So I 
moved the rods closer together and added a bit of the commercial CS we had 
bought. About 30 minutes later I looked and the solution was cloudy. Using a 
laser level I looked into the solution and could see the particles. No idea how 
concentrated it was though as I don't have a meter. I'd like to hear if there 
is a fairly good method.

 So we all rinsed our mouths and gargled as it had become a family event. I 
need to get some of the amber bottles and different tops now.

 We've had some interesting results with the commercial solution and my 
youngest's breathing at night. When we use the CS nose spray she doesn't snore 
or breath loudly. If we forget to have her spray we find out later from the 
snoring. She's been diagnosed with allergies but it happened so suddenly I'm 
not so convinced. It's been about 2 weeks with the CS spray so we'll continue 
and see what happens.

 Jeff
 
 ps - sorry Garnet

Re: CSGetting Started

2009-10-01 Thread Jeff Maahs

Thank you Dan, Smitty and Garnet!

I've been going through the material. Looks like I'll start out by buying some 
(little pricey) and take it from there. 

Thanks again!
Jeff






From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 10:48:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSGetting Started

Jeff,

Here is something I came up with on how to use Colloidal Silver.  I
think the initial cautions are overstated, but unless you have
something like food poisoning it is probably better to start slowly.

Dan



How To Use Colloidal Silver

Do not drink directly out of the CS bottle, or add things directly to
the CS bottle!
Pour the CS into your mouth or another container.

If you have never used CS internally before, start slowly and increase
the dose over a period of time.

1.  Very few people are allergic to silver.  To test, place several
drops of CS  on your tongue.   Monitor for allergic reactions for up
to ½ hour.

2.  Place 1 tsp CS in your mouth.  Swish it around for 2 minutes, then
spit it out.  Start out with only one or two doses a day.
3.  Increase dose to 1 Tbs CS at a time.  Swish it in mouth for 2 to 5
minutes, then spit it out.   Later, if you want, you can swallow this.
Swallowing CS is most effective on an empty stomach.  You can repeat
every ½ hour as long as you are not experiencing a healing reaction.

CS is strong and effective if used properly.
CS is only effective while it is actually contacting bacteria, etc.
It doesn’t linger.
CS only acts for a short time in the body.  Therefore, divided doses
taken over a period of time make it more effective.

Preventative dose:  1 tsp to 1 Tbs taken once or twice a day.  Swish
in mouth for 2 minutes and then swallow or spit it out.

Colds:  Spray CS in eyes and nose.  Use as you would use a nasal
spray.  Most effective when used at first sign of a cold.  Repeat
treatment every ½ hour for best results.

Established Colds:  Spray in eyes and nose.  Swish 1 tsp to 1 Tbs in
mouth for 30 seconds to 1 minute and swallow.  Repeat every ½ hour or
as often as you wish.

Sore Throat/Bronchitis:  Take as above for Established Colds.  Let the
CS trickle slowly down the throat over a period of time.  Spray CS
into the back of the mouth while breathing in.  Repeat every ½ hour.

Ears:  Fill ear canal with CS for 2 to 5 minutes.  Can mix with 3%
Hydrogen Peroxide at any ratio – try ½ CS and ½  Hydrogen Peroxide.
Some people recommend straight Hydrogen Peroxide (3%) or ½ CS and ½
Hydrogen Peroxide in the ear canals for colds.  Leave in until the
bubbling stops.

Eyes:  Spray or use drops in the eyes for colds or infections such as
Pinkeye.  Repeat several times.

Nose:  Remove the top from a saline or nasal spray bottle and dump out
the contents.  Rinse 3 times with distilled water or a little CS.
Fill half way with CS and use as a nasal spray.

Mouth:  Use 1 Tbs as you would a mouthwash (2 to 5 minutes) and then
spit out.  For more severe gum problems you can add either an equal
amount of  3% Hydrogen Peroxide to the CS, or 2 parts DMSO to 8 parts
CS.  (Don’t add Hydrogen Peroxide and DMSO to the same mix.)  Both
Hydrogen Peroxide and DMSO taste horrible, but the results can be
worth it.  Do not swallow.

Cuts or infections:  Saturate clean gauze, cotton, or cloth with CS.
Place this over the wound for as long as necessary.  Keep wet with CS.
Change as necessary.  Hydrogen Peroxide will help CS penetrate mucus,
etc.  Ten to 20 % DMSO will help it absorb into the skin for deeper
penetration.  It is possible to heal the surface of a wound and still
leave infection underneath for deep wounds.  Make sure it penetrates.
Use CS orally too.

Burns:  Silver is used to treat severe burns.  Treat as for Cuts or
Infections above.  Seek medical attention if badly burned.

Food Poisoning:  Drink ½ to 1 cup of CS in one dose.  Repeat if necessary.

Maximum Dose:  Many people have taken 1 pint to 1 quart of 5 to 20 ppm
CS daily without problems.  There is no concern with taking ¼ cup (4
Tbs) for long periods of time, or up to ½ cup (8 Tbs) for shorter
periods.


Note: Colloidal Silver (CS) as used here refers to 5 to 20 ppm silver
ions and particles liberated by electricity in pure distilled water
without salt or other additives.  Very good and inexpensive CS can be
made at home.  Stay away from commercial silver products with very
high ppms and those made with silver compounds or silver proteins.


On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Jeff Maahs j_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I would like to start out with CS. It would be mainly for myself but perhaps
 also for my young kids at some point.

 Is there a standard email that can be posted with some advice for beginners?

 If I buy some is there a better manufacturer?
 Is there a standard ppm to use?
 Dosage amounts for everyday versus when you have come down with something?

 Is there a guide for making it yourself?

 Thanks!
 Jeff


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2009-09-30 Thread Jeff Maahs

Hi,


I would like to start out with CS. It would be mainly for myself but perhaps 
also for my young kids at some point.

Is there a standard email that can be posted with some advice for beginners? 

If I buy some is there a better manufacturer? 
Is there a standard ppm to use? 
Dosage amounts for everyday versus when you have come down with something?

Is there a guide for making it yourself? 

Thanks!
Jeff

Re: CSCarb Blocker

2009-09-24 Thread Jeff Maahs

Hi, new to the list. As someone with Type II diabetes and lately high level of 
uric acid I find this interesting. 

Do you know if this is available as a powder or supplement? 

Thanks,
Jeff






From: Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 6:01:21 PM
Subject: Re: CSCarb Blocker


The ripe skin of phaseolus vulgaris is boiled as a tea and  filtered,then put  
in the fridge overnight, and then filtered again in the morning and drank three 
times a day, following a sugar restricted diet also no carbs.  After a few 
months the patient is cured of diabetes.  It also cures other diseases. There 
is an Ellingwood website that contains this cure from the 1900s.
 
Melly

CSCollodial Silver and Dry Eye Disease

2009-04-30 Thread Davidson, Jeff

Hello,

 

I am New to this silver - list.

 

I have a Grandson that is 8 years old and he has had a Very Severe Case
of Dry Eye Disease and they 

 

Say that he will go Blind and that they have done all they can do for
him in the City I am in.

 

I was wondering if Collodial Silver might be safe to spray or put in his
eyes and if it might help him

 

Or even cure his Dry Eye Disease.

 

If anyone has experience using Collodial Silver on Dry Eye Disease I
would appreciate a shout back.

 

Thank You

 

JD

Re: CSCS for Chronic Fatigue

2008-07-31 Thread Jeff Shepler


  Must have been, thanks for the link!

Shep

Nope, not in this one. Maybe you looked at a different product.

http://tinyurl.com/56fgxx

On Jul 28, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Jeff Shepler wrote:

I looked it up and it has hydrogenated vegetable oil in it, which 
tells me the makers don't have a clue. Why would they put HVO in a 
vitamin, I don't know.


A note about chronic fatgiue: I found a new multi vitamin by Veg 
Life, called MultiVeg Energy formula, and it is really amazing. 
There is some combo in it that works really well. I think I am 
finally getting this living thing down- fresh air, sunshine, 
exercise, raw whole foods, CS for what ails me. Still gotta have my 
cup of Joe, though.   I love summer.


Kathryn



I've battled Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for 8 1/2 years.  I had a 
remission that lasted a year (and thought a was cured) but for 
the past week it has been back as strong as ever.  I can't figure 
out why it came back (or exactly why it went away for that 
matter).  I eat very well, am off of sugar, caffein, and wheat.


   I wonder what I eat very well means. It would be interesting 
and reveling to know a typical days dietairy intake.


  Shep



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Re: CSCS for Chronic Fatigue

2008-07-28 Thread Jeff Shepler

I looked it up and it has hydrogenated vegetable oil in it, which 
tells me the makers don't have a clue. Why would they put HVO in a 
vitamin, I don't know.
   
A note about chronic fatgiue: I found a new multi vitamin by Veg Life, 
called MultiVeg Energy formula, and it is really amazing. There is 
some combo in it that works really well. I think I am finally getting 
this living thing down- fresh air, sunshine, exercise, raw whole 
foods, CS for what ails me. Still gotta have my cup of Joe, though.   
I love summer.


Kathryn



I've battled Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for 8 1/2 years.  I had a 
remission that lasted a year (and thought a was cured) but for the 
past week it has been back as strong as ever.  I can't figure out why 
it came back (or exactly why it went away for that matter).  I eat 
very well, am off of sugar, caffein, and wheat.


   I wonder what I eat very well means. It would be interesting and 
reveling to know a typical days dietairy intake. 


  Shep








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Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria, Silver Rich Soils

2008-07-24 Thread Jeff Shepler

I find quite often , when studying biotheory that there is no language 
that expresses the symbolism needed. Analogies  fail to describe the 
simplicity of it all. It's like economics, analogies a la grande, but of 
course analogies manifest paradigm.
  Simplicity rules, silver has the ambiance to control the 
pleo/polymorphism ,of micro/macro expansionism, that has plenty of room 
in infinity...
 Shep 

At 11:04 AM 7/23/2008 -0400, you wrote:

Ode Coyote wrote:


Silver has no known role as a nutrient which is what makes it 
virtually nontoxic at any dose, thank goodness.


It keeps the wolves away from the sheep, but serves no
purpose for the sheep  in the absence of wolves.

Ode



##  How is triggering or stimulating a natural function nutrition?
 A nutrient would be a building block or something that feeds 
something that has been built to contribute energy to it?
It's more likely that stems cell production is increased rather than 
any cells reverting anyhow.


 Something has to 'fill' the voids to heal an abrasion...don't think 
existing cells do that after they've been rubbed away, nor would I 
think existing cells would migrate, reverted or not.
 Looking at it another way:  Is there any silver in a stem cell where 
that stem cell wouldn't be a stem cell were the silver not there??
 Gets a bit ticklish there, like the difference between a baby born 
that's raised by momma, influenced to behave like that momma and one 
that's an orphan at birth looking for a momma to raise it and copy.  
Does something revert or is it lack of family ties imprint, going 
forward.
 It seems unlikely that grandpa puts on diapers and moves out of down 
town to repopulate the burbs.


..no question it does something good, but a bandaid isn't a nutrient 
either.
 Maybe silver gets something out of the way, so stem cells can play 
better hookup. [like a  50 in a pimps hand bribing the cop on the 
corner.impeding a prevention of a whore moan? ]
ummm, floozie cells with no significant other and a silver 
membership in a dating service?


 Will micro-electrical current stimulation do the same thing?  Heals 
up broken bones pretty fast.
 Maybe silver works like a traffic cop with a map and a whistle, but 
that's not a car in the traffic or anyone in a car...he's in the 
traffic but is not, the, traffic...never contacts a car.
 Definitely a process enhancer, but probably not part of the 
process... like a director isn't *in* a play with any part in the plot 
and that guy waving sticks around doesn't make the music... the actor 
is still the same actor with the same part and the notes played by the 
trumpet are still the same notes on the same sheet of paper.


 Architects don't build buildings.  A pencil never laid any bricks or 
peened any rivits.


Ode



You are only considering the pathogen killing ability of silver.  
What about the ability to make it so that injured (or blood) cells 
can revert back to stem cells and redifferentiate, and allow healing 
without scarring? It certainly serves that purpose, especially when 
used topically on abrasions, and burns.


Marshall


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Re: CSWhy Worry about Cholesterol ?

2008-07-24 Thread Jeff Shepler


Ho Hum

Lots of good reading at that site, thanks Wayne...
 
Ross


- Original Message -
*From:* Wayne Fugitt mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:53 PM
*Subject:* CSWhy Worry about Cholesterol ?

Evening Dee,

Interesting message.

 At 02:27 PM 7/24/2008, you wrote:

Cholesterol hype is just another myth perpetuated to make money
for drug companies. 


  Yes, one of a million or two.


 Our bodies produce cholesterol to repair itself and we need more
of it as we get older, not less. 


  Sounds like you believe some of the myth.


 It is far more sensible to find out *why* we are producing more
cholesterol and to address the cause, sooner than lowering the
cholesterol with toxic drugs.  Dee 


  Now how in the world would you or anyone know, what is Too Much ?

  I fear you are back in the park with the mainstream theory and
the people.

  One of the toughest and healthiest people I have known, has a
count of 400 and has all his life.

  All my few healthy friend have a HDL about like mine.

  The sickest people I know have the highest HDL count.  Now
explain that  !

  I guess it is possible to believe some of the theory, but not
all of it.

  So, .. another of my favorite questions, ..

   What else does the main stream say that you believe?

  I believe that cholesterol is a nutrient, ( compound, hormone,
chelate, or whatever you want to call it ).  It is used by every
cell of the body.

  Cholesterol has a melting point.   One scientist, many years
ago, stated that..

  In the presence of lecithin, the melting point is below body
temperature.  In the absence of lecithin, it is higher than body
temperature.

  Also, babies die that never breathe a single breath. They have
no lecithin in the lung tissue.
  The same is true with people that have Emphysema.

  Supposedly we can make lecithin.  I think some can and some
can't, depending on many things I have stated before.

 Nevertheless, I have taken lecithin off and on over the years. 


This site will tell you more than you ever wanted to know.  Take a
look.
This site is devoted to exposing medical mis-information.


*Fats, Cholesterol and Cardiovascular Disease Information
Point ... http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/cvd_index.html*

/UK/ based website of researcher and author, /Barry Groves/,
offering online nutritional information, who also exposes dietary
and medical misinformation and *...
*www.

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/cvd_index.html*second*-*opinion*s.co.*uk*/cvd_index.html
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/cvd_index.html

I have communicated a lot with Barry Groves long ago. He used to
come to the USA often but I never got to meet him.

Wayne

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Re: CSSilver resistant bacteria, Silver Rich Soils

2008-07-23 Thread Jeff Shepler


  Experts are known to make the biggest mistakes
 Shep
 
Again, I think you are saying the experts have never made a mistake.


Wayne

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Re: CSPlant derived minerals, What other kind ?

2008-06-10 Thread Jeff Shepler







  
  
  
Yep, the body uses plant derived minerals 






Not many, if any, chemists believe in Biological Transmutation. 







I get a kick our of the organic people. 

A molecule of nitrogen, ( the kind a plant can eat ) is the same no
matter if another plant made it, 
man made it, or the soil and enzymes made it. No plant will eat NH4,
they eat only NO3. 

Most chemists would agree with me. I agree they may be chelated and
in different forms, at times. 

But some forms, the plants will not eat. They must be changed, (
chelated ) by soil and enzymes, 
unless MAN made them right the first time. 

Wayne
  
I wasn't referring to biological transmutation.
  
The pithy put-down that says the plant doesn't know the difference
between nitrogen forms rates attention only as a curious form of
kindergarten nonsense.. 80% of the air is nitrogen all of it unusable
by green plants, it has to be combined with other elements to make
ammonium and nitrate compounds before it can be incorporated into
proteins. Microbes make the natural nitrogen cycle work, most notably
Rhizobium, which exists in a symbiotic partnership with plants/roots.
Nitrogen isn't alone in requiring the help of microbes before it can be
made fit for plant use. Just as nitrogen must first be converted to
nitrate, phosphorus must be converted to phosphate, sulfur to sulphate,
chlorine to chloride, boron to borate, and molybdenum to molybdate, and
so on. So you don't really feed the plants, you are actually feeding
the microbes. The plants food is predigested and only gets what the
microbes give it. 
  
Shep
  
  
  
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Re: CSPlant derived minerals, What other kind ?

2008-06-09 Thread Jeff Shepler





Wayne Fugitt wrote:

  Yep, the body uses plant derived minerals

  
  
  
  
  
  
Not many, if any, chemists believe in Biological Transmutation.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
I get a kick our of the organic people.
  
  
A molecule of nitrogen, ( the kind a plant can eat ) is the same no
matter if another plant made it,
  
man made it, or the soil and enzymes made it. No plant will eat NH4,
they eat only NO3.
  
  
Most chemists would agree with me. I agree they may be chelated and
in different forms, at times.
  
  
But some forms, the plants will not eat. They must be changed, (
chelated ) by soil and enzymes,
  
unless MAN made them right the first time.
  
  
Wayne

I wasn't referring to biological transmutation.

The pithy put-down that says the plant doesn't know the difference
between nitrogen forms rates attention only as a curious form of
kindergarten nonsense.. 80% of the air is nitrogen all of it unusable
by green plants, it has to be combined with other elements to make
ammonium and nitrate compounds before it can be incorporated into
proteins. Microbes make the natural nitrogen cycle work, most notably
Rhizobium, which exists in a symbiotic partnership with plants/roots.
Nitrogen isn't alone in requiring the help of microbes before it can be
made fit for plant use. Just as nitrogen must first be converted to
nitrate, phosphorus must be converted to phosphate, sulfur to sulphate,
chlorine to chloride, boron to borate, and molybdenum to molybdate, and
so on. So you don't really feed the plants, you are actually feeding
the microbes. The plants food is predigested and only gets what the
microbes give it. 

Shep



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Re: QUESTION = CSWater can make some Sick, Some it Don't

2008-06-05 Thread Jeff Shepler





 Yes and those trace minerals are so important for health...
Shep
Sea
salts are mostly sodium chloride, I've seen analyses of over 85% to
98%.
  
Those trace minerals in sea salt really are traces.
  
sol
  
  
treblcl...@aol.com wrote:
  
  Shep,

Where is the chlorine coming from if you use unprocessed sea salt? And
where is the sodium chloride coming from? Thanks in advance for your
response. I'm really curious, that's all.



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Re: QUESTION = CSWater can make some Sick, Some it Don't

2008-06-05 Thread Jeff Shepler





 Yep, the body uses plant derived minerals and also the ionic forms
in water...kelp is an excellent source , for iodine, too. If not we
could eat dirt, most commercial mineral supplements are the wrong form.
I mix Azomite in h2o , comes in 50lb bag...cheap
Shep
I think sol means we require more of those minerals than
we can get just from the salt. There have been many discussions about
mineral supplementation here before.
  
  
  
On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Jeff Shepler wrote:
  
  
   Yes and those trace minerals are so
important for health...

Shep

Sea salts are mostly sodium chloride, I've
seen analyses of over 85% to 98%.
  
Those trace minerals in sea salt really are traces.
  
sol
  
  
treblcl...@aol.com wrote:
  
  Shep,

Where is the chlorine coming from if you use unprocessed sea salt?
And where is the sodium chloride coming from? Thanks in advance for
your response. I'm really curious, that's all.



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Re: CSWater memory and magnetize?





 As if David or anyone has any idea what reality is. Please explain
gravity if you're the master of reality,or why a refrigerator magnet
can cling endlessly without any power source. Why does light slow down
when it enters water only to speed up upon exiting? Don't these
examples go against the theory of quantum mechanics? While your at it
please explain time for us? Has any of us ever seen an atom? If I used
the same logic for CS I'd be a smurf...by now, well supposedly...
Shep
David,
  
Thanks! For injecting some reality into this discussion.
  
sol
  
  
da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
  
  
healthiest and most economical to make distilled,add ionic minerals,
erase the memory and magnetize

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That's what I would do if I had the equipment. However, I would ...
erase the memory, magnetize,..
  



Sorry but I think this is just total nonsense. Don't fall for this
fantasy or waste your time worrying that your water is somehow
'inferior' or is 'dead'. There is absolutely no credible proof that
water can be magnetized or has a memory.


Google 'magnetised water myths' or 'scams' or 'hoaxes' and you'll find
plenty of perfectly reasonable explanations about this junk science.

http://www.chem1.com/CQ/magwatscams.html


Water is either pure or impure. If its unpleasent or has gone 'off'
then thats simply because its got impurities or bacteria in it, not
because its lost its 'energy' or some other bogus characteristic.



  
  
  
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Re: CSWater memory and magnetize?







   As if David or anyone has any idea what
reality is. Please explain gravity if you're the master of reality,

  
It is a macro version of the casimir force, a direct result of the ZPE
field.
  

 The effects of quantum theory are not evident on the macroscopic
level.


  or why a refrigerator magnet can cling
endlessly without any power source.

  
It does have a power source, it draws its power from the ZPE, same
reason that electrons don't spiral down into their nuclei.
 Since most of Einsteins' theories have been plagiarized and
equations found lacking , how can ZPE be credible? If the law of
conservation is correct the magnet should diminish over time?

  Why does light slow down when it enters water
only to speed up upon exiting? 
Because the speed of light is set by the electric field's permitivity
and magnetic fields permability, which are higher for water than a
vacuum. This comes out of the equations which are derived from the
action of the ZPE field.
  

 But it takes energy to speed it up

  Don't these examples go against the theory of
quantum mechanics?

 Whoops , I meant the law of conservation of energy

   
Not at all. In fact quantum mechanics and their experiments have
established the reality of the ZPE.
  

 There's that reality word again...

  While your at it please explain time for us? 
Keeps everything from happening all at once.
  

 LOL, I agree!

  Has any of us ever seen an atom? 
An atom is smaller than the wavelength of light, and thus cannot be
imaged via light. It can however be "seen" using a scanning tunneling
microscope, which uses the tunneling phenomenon caused by the ZPE to
display atoms. I have seen these.
  

  

 At this scale isn't it possible to imagine it into existence?
Marshall
  
  If I used the same logic for CS I'd be a
smurf...by now, well supposedly...

Shep

David,
  
Thanks! For injecting some reality into this discussion.
  
sol
  
  
da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
  
  
healthiest and most economical to make distilled,add ionic minerals,
erase the memory and magnetize

--
  
That's what I would do if I had the equipment. However, I would ...
erase the memory, magnetize,..
  



Sorry but I think this is just total nonsense. Don't fall for this
fantasy or waste your time worrying that your water is somehow
'inferior' or is 'dead'. There is absolutely no credible proof that
water can be magnetized or has a memory.


Google 'magnetised water myths' or 'scams' or 'hoaxes' and you'll find
plenty of perfectly reasonable explanations about this junk science.

http://www.chem1.com/CQ/magwatscams.html


Water is either pure or impure. If its unpleasent or has gone 'off'
then thats simply because its got impurities or bacteria in it, not
because its lost its 'energy' or some other bogus characteristic.



  
  
  
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Re: CSWater memory and magnetize?





 A fundamental reason all these fields cross over is because we
live in an electric universe. Physics boils down to electrical theory .
Chemistry boils down to electrical theory. Why wouldn't so called
biochemistry? Electromedicine is not a recent phenomenon, but it is
suppressed. Drugs are complex electrochemical substances. It's all
electrical/energy
 Even feelings. David wasn't being disrespectful, as much as, just
being closed minded. When you look out of the box, you see a lonely
simplicity.
Shep

I did not read the cited website, but I do know for a fact that
chemists have to know alot about physics. I know several people that
double majored in phys and chem, because there was so much crossover.
When you throw in biological systems, it changes everything, and
biochemistry is it's own field imho. And then Electromedicine, that is
so new it seems experimental to me.
  
  
I guess I am used to being mocked, because I did not feel like David
was too far out of line. I do not think he meant to hurt your feelings,
though, just that he felt strongly about the topic.
  
  
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Re: CSWater memory and magnetize?





 Good is a concept. He is using flawed models of reality. Einstein
was an egotistical quack (not just my opinion). But what about atomic
energy, you may think. It all goes to show that the forces of nature
can still be harnessed even without fully understanding them. Take
electricity for example (and why not since every thing is energy) we
use it daily for all types of applications, but we still don't really
know what it is. Which way does it flow, + to - or - to +? You have the
supposedly electron flow, but then you have that nagging hole flow
theory! I really liked the time explanation! It really could be that
simple, lol...
Shep
Marshall gave you some good answers, thanks, Marshall. I
remember doing the equasions years ago, but do not remember the
specifics.
  
  
  
On Jun 4, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Jeff Shepler wrote:
  
  
   As if David or anyone has any idea what
reality is. Please explain gravity if you're the master of reality,or
why a refrigerator magnet can cling endlessly without any power source.
Why does light slow down when it enters water only to speed up upon
exiting? Don't these examples go against the theory of quantum
mechanics? While your at it please explain time for us? Has any of us
ever seen an atom? If I used the same logic for CS I'd be a smurf...by
now, well supposedly...

Shep

David,
  
Thanks! For injecting some reality into this discussion.
  
sol
  
  
da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
  
  
healthiest and most economical to make distilled,add ionic minerals,
erase the memory and magnetize

--
  
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erase the memory, magnetize,..
  


  

  
  
  
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Re: CSSilver Puppy Question





 Thanks ...My Silver Puppy has the polarity switching built in. Now
I know why! It is reassuring to know they are solid also. I wiped them
with a paper towel and am not worried about wiping too hard and
possibly taking off a thin layer.
Shep

  
  
  
  Hey Shep,
  
  Theyare solid silver wires
and last until they are near nothin. I swap my positive and negative
wires with each batch so that my wires wear evenly. 
  
  Hope that helps!
  Ruth B.
  
  

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  Subject:
Re: CSSilver Puppy Question
  
  
   Thanks, so I don't have to worry about wiping off the
silver plating? Do the wires have to be replaced every so often, or are
they solid and will last until very thin?
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Re: CSWater memory and magnetize?







  
  
  
  
and what background do you have that leads you to such ideas?
 Such ideas? How many degrees does one need to understand simplicity?
 are you an anti science person, like many people I have
met? sounds like you knpow some science, though, so maybe that's not
it.
  
  

 Wouldn't one have to know something about science to be
anti-science? 

  
  
  
if we understood them, what would be the point of studying them? 
 Well, there would always be new ways to utilize awareness.
I don't really know too many really smart people that
think they know what reality is, anyway. Just approximations of it,
based on some framework that can change according to new info.
  

 Same opinion I used just different words.

  
  Take electricity for example (and why not
since every thing is energy) we use it daily for all types of
applications, but we still don't really know what it is. Which way does
it flow, + to - or - to +? You have the supposedly electron flow, but
then you have that nagging hole flow theory! I really liked the time
explanation! It really could be that simple, lol...

  
  
lol
  
  
kathryn
  
  Shep

Marshall gave you some good answers,
thanks, Marshall. I remember doing the equasions years ago, but do not
remember the specifics.
  

  
  
  
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Re: CSTheory, The Mind, and Understanding






Evening Shep,
  
  
  
  
I liked your message and agree with it, Even about Einstein.
  
  
You seem to see the world a bit like I do and you understand it as well
as anyone.
  
  
  Take electricity for example (and why not
since every thing is energy) we use it daily for all types of
applications, but we still don't really know what it is. Which way does
it flow, + to - or - to +? You have the supposedly electron flow, but
then you have that nagging hole flow theory! I really liked the time
explanation! It really could be that simple, lol...

  
  
 Yes, I have wondered which is right. Both I guess.
  
  
My summary and point of view is simple. You might even agree.
  
  
Most of us understand things enough to satisfy our mind.
 My mind is not satisfied yet, I know that for sure.
 Once we decide that, we can go on to greater things.
  
  
Whether right or wrong, my understanding has served me many years and
allowed me to accomplish virtually all my goals.
  

 Ditto, but I don't have my sailboatyet.

When the cotton picking stuff works, something must be right.
  
  
Of course two people could talk about much of this for Years.
  
  
Again, thanks for your ideas and views.
  
  
Wayne
  
  
Time, Space, and Force, Three important elements 
 I'm now toying with the idea that time doesn't exist, except in
our minds. "That it is a useful abstraction that we superimpose upon
our observations for the purpose of organization and convenience" Mark
McCutcheon "The Final Theory, Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy" And
he uniquely describes gravity as a result of Expansion Theory, which
removes most of the mystery . Basically all atomic and sub-atomic
particles are expanding VERY rapidly. So the universe including the
earth are expanding so fast that the simple mechanical theory of
inertia holds us on the surface. So there really is no gravity , just a
constant upward/outward movement. This is why gravity stumps everyone
by the way it seemingly attracts all things. Like an elevator going
up. You throw a ball up, it doesn't come down, the earth has just
expanded up to the ball! You can't see it because everything is
expanding at the same rate. I still haven't finished the book, there is
so much to absorb. But it's blown away many folk that have read it. I
hope it is the final theory and my journey has lead me to it. Another
simply amazing theory is the electric universe, Thunderbolts of the
Gods etc. I really don't think it will be long before many textbooks
will have to be rewritten. These two concepts just take all the wind
out of the old thinking.
Shep

  
  

  
  
  
 
  
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Re: CSTheory, The Mind, and Understanding





: Yea, the 11th dimension and parallel universe, right too complex
Expansion Theory is so simple, well kinda. Right lol the earth blows..
Shep

On Jun 4, 2008, at 5:54 PM, Jeff Shepler wrote:
  
  
  
 I'm now toying with the idea that time doesn't exist, except
in our minds. "That it is a useful abstraction that we superimpose upon
our observations for the purpose of organization and convenience" Mark
McCutcheon "The Final Theory, Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy"

  
  
have you thought about syncronisity, or that all time exists
simultaneously, Simo-Time my other half calls it. it goes into some
crazy ideas about alternate universes and wow, can't quite go there
right now.
  
  
  
  And he uniquely describes gravity as a result
of Expansion Theory, which removes most of the mystery . Basically all
atomic and sub-atomic particles are expanding VERY rapidly. So the
universe including the earth are expanding so fast that the simple
mechanical theory of inertia holds us on the surface. So there really
is no gravity , just a constant upward/outward movement. This is why
gravity stumps everyone by the way it seemingly attracts all things.
Like an elevator going up. You throw a ball up, it doesn't come down,
the earth has just expanded up to the ball! You can't see it because
everything is expanding at the same rate. I still haven't finished the
book, there is so much to absorb. But it's blown away many folk that
have read it. I hope it is the final theory and my journey has lead me
to it. Another simply amazing theory is the electric universe,
Thunderbolts of the Gods etc. I really don't think it will be long
before many textbooks will have to be rewritten. These two concepts
just take all the wind out of the old thinking.

Shep




  
  
so gravity doesn't really suck, the earth blows?
  
  
cool.
  
  
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Re: CSWater can make some Sick, Some it Don't





 I got rid of a bunch of stomach problems by increasing my salt
intake (unprocessed sea salt). Seems the body needs the chlorine from
the sodium chloride to make hydrochloric acid. No more acid reflux,
ulcer, and I can eat tomatoes and drink beer again!
Shep
I
think it is strong stomach acid, LOL. I have read that theoretically at
least, stomach acid should kill ALL ingested bacteria. Mine apparently
doens't, but for those times I have CS.
  
sol
  
  
Dee wrote:
  
  I suppose the answer is, if you have a strong
immune system then it should be able to take care of anything thrown at
it. Dee



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 Final note,.. a few years back me, my son, and two of his

friends were building a dam on

a creek. The water was crystal clear. We all drink some. The other
two

got sick but me and my son did not.



Recently my son and two of his friends ate someplace. They got food

poisoning but my son did not.











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 For such a contentious subject, I'm surprised there isn't more
research on the effects of drinking distilled water. It makes all kinds
of "common sense" that DW , the most universal solvent might tend to
deplete minerals (electrolytes), being the nature of the beast. Some
people have been reported to have severe depletion when drinking DW,
while others report improved health! Most people that are ill have
electrolyte imbalances. 
 On the other hand there have been fifty studies in nine countries,
that show better health (especially cardiovascular) and longevity when
drinking hard water. So there is plenty of diametrically opposed
research.
 Humans get most of their minerals that can be assimilated from
organic source (plant and animal). Ionic inorganic forms found in water
are the exception.
 Mineral devoid water does not exist in nature, DW is denatured. What
an excellent foundation for a mineral dense drink!!!
 The jury is still out on this controversy. 
 Shep



David,
  
When I was online researching the "minerals stripped" statments a few
years back, I could not find a shred of actual research to support it.
  
sol
  
  
da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
  
  

From: Jeff Shepler shep...@locl.net
  
  
  
 Distilled H2O is stripped of all minerals. This makes it super
absorbent and will dissolve the minerals out of the body, add the good
minerals back. R/O strips the minerals out to making it acidic, too.
  
Shep
  


This statement doesn't really stand up to much 'common sense'
examination and I doubt there's any credible research to support it
either. 
  
  
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Re: CSEarly Death Comes From Drinking Distilled Water





Didn't cost me anything? I don't understand.
Shep
please don't bother posting stuff from this site- he won't
give free access to his site for some reason, so there is no way for me
to know what ison it. If you do feel it is so important that it needs
posting, maybe you can add a paragraph to the link so we can all enjoy
it. I personally feel that limiting the access is against the cherished
ideals of freedom of information, so I look crosswise at it and him.
Thanks.
  
  
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On Jun 2, 2008, at 11:46 PM, Jeff Shepler wrote:
  
  
  http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water.htm



  
  
  
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 Oh it's true you just missed the point. Very low isn't pure! I've
been to the high Sierras and the water was actually so mineral rich it
was milky whiteDW will dissolve some metals it's so aggressive. I'm
happy to have learned so much on this subject, I'm neutral , just
learning. 
Shep

On Jun 2, 2008, at 11:38 PM, Jeff Shepler wrote:
  
  
  
 Mineral devoid water does not exist in nature

  
  
Not quite true. The water in the high Sierras is almost pure water,
very very low ionic and/or dissolved content. Just H2O.
  
  
   The jury is still out on this
controversy.

 Shep


  
  
maybe, if you go by published studies. If you go by what tastes good to
you, and what agrees with you, no studies are needed.
  
  
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CSSilver Puppy Question

   I've been using my SP for a year or more, and the silver wire 
electrodes are getting some build up (oxidation?) on them. How is this 
cleaned off and how often should they be cleaned . I wiped them once 
with a paper towel but was unsure if these electrodes were plated or 
solid, and maybe I would wipe off the silver , too?

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Re: CSGov't Forced Vaccinations





   The people of England years ago were forced by laws to vaccinate
with Jenners cow pus or go to jail. It was a hot issue then as it is
now. We're victims of manufactured consent backed up by the threat of
law. I hate it when they nervously  point guns at us and shout orders. 
Nowhere to run, no where to hide, there's nothing left but my fighting
side...
Shep




  People,
 
Please take some time to check this out !
 
Mandated vaccinations and other gov't horror programs soon to come.. 

Alex Jones  video clips... very good !!
 
Stand back , 'cause Alex is really pissed about this issue.. so am I !!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYWdeqXB6nQ
 
My Best to All,
 
Pete Rogers
 


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Re: CSSilver Puppy Question





 Thanks, so I don't have to worry about wiping off the silver
plating? Do the wires have to be replaced every so often, or are they
solid and will last until very thin?
Shep 
Use a little scrubby pad and just rub the black stuff
off. Simple. Faith G.
  
  
  
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Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:01 AM
  
Subject: CSSilver Puppy Question
  
  
  
   I've been using my SP for a year or more,
and the silver wire electrodes are getting some build up (oxidation?)
on them. How is this cleaned off and how often should they be cleaned .
I wiped them once with a paper towel but was unsure if these electrodes
were plated or solid, and maybe I would wipe off the silver , too?

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Re: distilled water harmful, was Re: CSRe: food prep with cs





Wow, Hi Nenah,
 Sorry I didn't credit you when posting on this. You could probably
tell! But when I googled (DW minerals) it I came across your article on
water which I used, since you are most credible in mine eyes. I relish
your "The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing". Although I still haven't
read it all, and have been using it for finding and cross referencing
frequencies for my EMEM, mostly. As I take it off the shelf again I
realize what a valuable resource guide it is, and I am going to dive in
again. I have a hard time trying to comprehend pleomorphism and energy
healing ( and who isn't) since it's diametrically opposed to the germ
theory manufactured thoughts implanted into our heads. But I know it's
real and am actually used to contrary thinking. Conventional thinking
in almost every aspect of reality is on thin ice. Thank you for your
guidance, as I read on, and your wisdom and compassion! Is there a way
to make a good water, low tech, and without too much equipment. I was
reading about putting h2o in a glass jug and shaking it , then leaving
it out in the sun for a while and then adding the minerals?
Shep

  
  
  
  
  -
Original Message - 
From: gmetrop...@aol.com 
  To:
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  Sent:
Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:51 AM
  Subject:
Re: distilled water harmful, was Re: CSRe: food prep with cs
  
  
  With a large family I go
through 5 gallons of the purest natural spring water I can get from an
undergroung spring in the high mountains but it gets costly. Distilled
is dead water. Is it healthiest and most economical to make
distilled,add ionic minerals, erase the memory and magnetize?
  
  --
  That's what I would do if I had the
equipment. However, I would change the order slightly: distill, erase
the memory, magnetize, and then add minerals.
  
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Re: CSEarly Death Comes From Drinking Distilled Water





 In Dr Wilson's article "the Dangers of Toxic Metals" He states not
to fear toxic metals ( and other low level toxic substances?) the body
won't use them if the superior and correct minerals are available. So
maybe if you live a healthy lifestyle and have adequate minerals the
bad ones pass through?
Shep

  
  
  
  
  

  

I don't
have any trouble accessing his site and indeed, I find some really
helpful stuff on it including the link which was posted. It makes a
lot of sense what he says and I'm sure he has done a lot of research
into the subject. It also makes sense to me in that nature would not
provide distilled water. However, neither would it provide fluoride as
in tap water so I don't know what the best advice to people would be.
Personally, I just drink tap water and am a very healthy person with no
obvious problems. Maybe the old adage is true here i.e. Moderation is
the key. Dee 

---Original
Message---


From: Clayton
Family
Date:
06/03/08 14:21:24
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:
Re: CSEarly Death Comes From Drinking Distilled Water


please don't bother posting stuff from this site- he won't
give free
access to his site for some reason, so there is no way for
me to know
what ison it. If you do feel it is so important that it
needs posting,
Maybe you can add a paragraph to the link so we can all
enjoy it. I
personally feel that limiting the access is against the
cherished
ideals of freedom of information, so I look crosswise at
it and him.
Thanks.

kathryn

On Jun 2, 2008, at 11:46 PM, Jeff Shepler wrote:

 http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water.htm




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Re: distilled water harmful, was Re: CSRe: food prep with cs





 
Hence,
plumbers
  
  
All water will do that. Not just distilled water.
  
  
  
  
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Re: CSRe: distilled water harmful / PLEOMORPHISM





 Thanks again Nenah, 
I'll be visiting your web site soon, and the Willard Water sight among
others I found linked to in your book. I keep finding we truly are what
we eat, and bacterium are actually our friends if fed right. Europe
sigh, sometimes I wish my ancestors never left. I was over in 1994 and
was simply blown away by the architecture alone. I remember not seeing
one house trailer, no vinyl siding or asphalt shingles, etc. that is so
common but repugnant here. I also was aware that Europeans just looked
so much healthier and fit. When I landed back here the airport was
loaded with unhealthy appearing obese humans...Europe is my place to
daydream to.
Shep

  
  
  
  
  Hi Shep.
  Thanks for mentioning me, and I'm glad you are finding my book
so useful ;-) Periodically I see discussions on "distilled water --
yes or no?",I tell people to read the chapter excerpt on my website,
and then I see the same issue discussed yet again. So it's nice that
someone else is picking up the ball.
  
  You mention pleomorphism, the ability of microbes to change from
one form to another. In Europe, pleomorphism is no big deal. In Germany
alone, there are SIX books on it!
  
  If you have a hard time wrapping your mind around the idea of
pleomorphism, try this: healthful foods full of enzymes and other
nutrients improve cell function and actually help repair DNA. Sugar and
junk foods clog the system and degrade DNA. Similarly, microbes change
according to what they feed on. They degrade (and become morevirulent)
when given crap to eat. Does this help any?
  
  Your low tech solution to reviving water (as mentioned in my
chapter excerpt) is perfect. There may be a time when power outages are
common, and we cannot rely on electricity. Shaking and sunlight are
free.
  
  By the way, I always add Willard Water (which contains alkaline
minerals) to my colloidal silver solution after it's made. This way,
the fluid becomes alkaline. The silver remains in solution and works
the way it should. But I feel better knowing that the solution is
alkaline rather than acidic. At its highest pH reading, my freshly made
distilled water has registered 6.8, on account of the carbonic acid
content. It amazes me still how volatile distilled water can be. (This
is why the Natural Immunogenics people, when they make CS,cover their
distilled water tanks with a layer of argon gas. They don't want to
have carbonic acid in the final CS solution.)
  
  Best,
  Nenah
  
  Nenah Sylver, PhD
  http://www.nenahsylver.com
  * author, The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing
* author, The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy
 and wholesale prices for
* Transfer Factor - superior immune support
* VIBE - raw fruit  vegetable total nutrition concentrate
  
  
  
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From:
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To:
silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent:
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Subject:
Re: distilled water harmful, was Re: CSRe: food prep with cs


Wow, Hi Nenah,
 Sorry I didn't credit you when posting on this. You could probably
tell! But when I googled (DW minerals) it I came across your article on
water which I used, since you are most credible in mine eyes. I relish
your "The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing". Although I still haven't
read it all, and have been using it for finding and cross referencing
frequencies for my EMEM, mostly. As I take it off the shelf again I
realize what a valuable resource guide it is, and I am going to dive in
again. I have a hard time trying to comprehend pleomorphism and energy
healing ( and who isn't) since it's diametrically opposed to the germ
theory manufactured thoughts implanted into our heads. But I know it's
real and am actually used to contrary thinking. Conventional thinking
in almost every aspect of reality is on thin ice. Thank you for your
guidance, as I read on, and your wisdom and compassion! Is there a way
to make a good water, low tech, and without too much equipment. I was
reading about putting h2o in a glass jug and shaking it , then leaving
it out in the sun for a while and then adding the minerals?
Shep
  


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Re: CSfood prep with cs





 Distilled H2O is stripped of all minerals. This makes it super
absorbent and will dissolve the minerals out of the body, add the good
minerals back. R/O strips the minerals out to making it acidic, too.
Shep



  
  
  
  
  

  

Just a
question here. I had always thought that water contained essential
minerals that are needed by the body. My question is: if the water
given is distilled and/or just CS (also distilled) wouldn't the body
become depleted of minerals? Dee 

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My cats get CS (straight or half
distilled water) as their drinking
water, and I mix some into their wet food.
Always put some into half and half and cream when opened.
If I have some meat that isn't going to be cooked right
away, I spray it
with CS before putting it away in the fridge. I've done
the same to
cheese before wrapping it in a paper towel and storing in
a plastic bag,
it keeps the mold down.
sol


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CSDrinking Water Contaminants | Safewater| Water | US EPA


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Re: CSfood prep with cs

   Tap water contains much more than minerals. It's disgusting what is 
in it.


  Water is the most universal solvent there is, it's ability to absorb 
increases in its pure form significantly


Tap water does contain minerals, but if you had to depend on water 
intake for your mineral needs, you'd probably be dead.

You would be dead not just probably, its called starvation.
In my experience, using distilled water does NOT deplete the body of 
minerals, it just doens't add any.

sol

  Distilled water won't deplete minerals but it will draw out more 
than put in, obviously...
 
  I understand the controversy, so just to be on the safe side I add a 
pinch of Redmonds Real Sea Salt, but I won't drink tap

 Shep


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Re: CSfood prep with cs





 The low salt diet is only is fine for the bad commercially produced
salts. My health is much improved since I started using unprocessed sea
salt. I love salt. I sprinkle liberal amounts on my food, add it to my
R?O water to drink. Some times I take a little and throw it over my
shoulder...we are not scared of salt anymore, well except the Morton
poison...
Shep


I have not used salt in my cooking nor on my table for
years and I do not find it "awful". Only lately have I begun using
tiny amounts of sea salt here and there but I am careful with it.
Foods prepared elsewhere that others find "wonderful" are hideously
salty to me. I just wonder what those people are doing to their blood
vessels (constricted with too much salt). I used to eat that way, but
no more. Faith G.
  
  
  
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sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:57 PM
  
Subject: Re: CSfood prep with cs
  
  
  
  If it was me, and this is just my personal
preference/taste, I'd use the salt and skip the CS. Vegetables and
foods canned without salt are awful, and it seems to take many times
the amount of salt after the fact to give them any flavor.

I use a pressure canner for low and non-acid foods.

sol


Dianne France wrote:

I wasn't going to skip the water boiling
but planned on using boiled distilled but wondered if I could skip the
salt because the silver should do the same protection. I wouldn't want
to combine silver and salt since there has been so much discussion
about the side effects.
  



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Re: distilled water harmful, was Re: CSRe: food prep with cs





 For such a contentious subject, I'm surprised there isn't more
research on the effects of drinking distilled water. It makes all kinds
of "common sense" that DW , the most universal solvent might tend to
deplete minerals (electrolytes), being the nature of the beast. Some
people have been reported to have severe depletion when drinking DW,
while others report improved health! Most people that are ill have
electrolyte imbalances. 
 On the other hand there have been fifty studies in nine countries,
that show better health (especially cardiovascular) and longevity when
drinking hard water. So there is plenty of diametrically opposed
research.
 Humans get most of their minerals that can be assimilated from
organic source (plant and animal). Ionic inorganic forms found in water
are the exception.
 Mineral devoid water does not exist in nature, DW is denatured. What
an excellent foundation for a mineral dense drink!!!
 The jury is still out on this controversy. 
 Shep



David,
  
When I was online researching the "minerals stripped" statments a few
years back, I could not find a shred of actual research to support it.
  
sol
  
  
da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
  
  

From: Jeff Shepler shep...@locl.net
  
  
  
 Distilled H2O is stripped of all minerals. This makes it super
absorbent and will dissolve the minerals out of the body, add the good
minerals back. R/O strips the minerals out to making it acidic, too.
  
Shep
  


This statement doesn't really stand up to much 'common sense'
examination and I doubt there's any credible research to support it
either. 
  
  
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CSEarly Death Comes From Drinking Distilled Water


http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water.htm


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Re: CSMS Cure - a real possibility

2008-06-01 Thread Jeff Shepler

and "Lyme" disease is chronic toxemia..With our entrenched "germ
theory" monomorphic view, the deep understanding of disease is lost,
which sells pharmaceuticals that set the stage for degenerative
symptomsTo heal Lyme, is to understand disease...

Shep

MS is end stage lyme disease.

Kurt
chaha ch...@tx.rr.com wrote:

We just got back from a party where I talked to a woman I've known for years who has had MS for about 7 years. She was forwarded an article alerting her to look into wheat gluten/celiac disease for being the cause of MS. Two days after she found out about it, on March 28th of this year, she began following the diet on http://www.msrecoverydiet.com/. Now almost 2 months later she has so much more mobility, used to take naps now has too much energy for it, has lost weight in her stomach area (she's quite thin). My friend has her PhD in nutrition and teaches at a local community college and at a local medical school (UT Southwestern). She will be presenting her findings this Wed. to the medical school. She wants her old MRI's there. Although she is greatly improved, she said it's not time yet to do another MRI for comparison. As a nutritionist, she couldn't believe her ailment w
as staring her in the face but remembered the Hippocrates quote "Let they food by they medicine and they medicine by thy food". I hope the word gets out to the many people suffering from this disease that's considered neurological. How many other neurological disorders are caused by wrong food choices?

Cindy

http://www.msrecoverydiet.com/
Their book explains that there are five common trigger foods that can set off the symptoms of MS--dairy, grains containing gluten, legumes, eggs and yeast. Yet because MS is such a complex disease, other foods may also be the culprits. The MS Recovery Diet explains the background, science and development of this diet in one source for the first time, and shows readers how to pinpoint their specific problem foods and sensitivities.

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Re: CSChemical Dumbing Down of Amerika





bob Larson wrote:

  ...this is pretty far from "underground" actually.

"didgital alternitive undergroung"???  geez
  
-Original Message-
This system is why we have to go underground to discuss CS etc. Now do 
you see grasshopper?

  
  

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My moms' one too, sister PHD  fluent German among many others

  Yeah, be careful here Shep, there are a few english teachers around.
:)
 marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: 
  
  


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"didgital alternitive undergroung"???  geez

 Did you mean *digital alternative underground*?  Pretty funny, considering the topic.  MA
   




  

  
  

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Re: CSdog with lymph cancer

Cured my Jack Russell w/2 doses of MMS probably only needed 1, I 
might have gave too much (15 drops) which caused quite a dramatic 
healing. But she was almost dead and it was that orput her out. I 
was going to try CS, but was using the infamous eniee meenie miney mo 
method.

 Shep

kathryn,

CS is an excellent place to start, but I would add the use of 
nerium oleander extract in the form of Sutherlandia OPC, two capsules 
daily, and IP6, (inositol and inositol hexaphosphate).  Some might 
also add MMS (chlorine dioxide).  All are available legally.  
SutherlandiaOPC.com is the website to visit for the oleander extract.  
It's track record for the eradication of cancer is stupendous.  IP6 is 
available from the Utopia Silver website.   Good luck in whatever you 
choose.


Bob
- Original Message - From: Clayton Family 
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:21 AM
Subject: CSdog with lymph cancer


My neighbor has a sick dog just diagnosed with cancer, in the  lymph 
around the neck. He was throwing up everything when she took him in. 
The vet is very happy to do chemo etc, but she does not want to 
pursue that route.  I am going down to give him some silver water and 
see if he can tolerate that, and what happens after.  He is a pretty 
sick dog.


any input?  Thanks.

kathryn


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Re: CSdog with lymph cancer