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Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com John 13:35 : - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:15 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2009 #540
Re: CSLow - High ppm
Thank you Neville, This is very helpful information! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com : - Original Message - From: Neville Munn To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:24 PM Subject: RE: CSLow - High ppm Your snipped quote: [Are there purposes for which you make low PPM batches vs. higher PPM batches?] -For me personally, Yes! Daily use or non emergency...a relatively low ppm satisfies, for emergency or something...a high ppm. For external use on open wounds or such, I don't mind how much converts to 'particulate', but for internal use with an emergency ailment or condition becoming evident, my regimen is to use my 4 electrode unit and only produce 250ml at a time, twice a day, and a quantity must be consumed every couple of hours while awake until used up, to ensure absorption while still highest in ionic content. N. -- From: lsav...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSocular herpes? Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:57:16 -0400 I want to thank everyone who replied to my question about occular herpes. I gave Luke a few drops in his eye last night and he said it made his eye feel uncomfortable. Marshall, I will take your cautionary advice under serious consideration. I have a SilverGen and I've always made batches with the knob turned to high (and I don't have a ppm meter). My CS has always been white as plain water so I've never worried about its quality. May I poll people on this list who have SilverGen machines and find out what you set your dial to and why? I would be very grateful to learn from you guys on this question. Would it be right to assume that if the silver rods were submersed to the same level and the same size jar was used that the different settings on the dial will produce relatively consistent PPMs? Are there purposes for which you make low PPM batches vs. higher PPM batches? Again, many thanks in advance... Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com : -- Find out how with Windows Live! Want to stay on top of your life online?
Re: CSocular herpes?
I thought salt in CS made silver chloride and that was what made people turn blue? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com : - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: Re: CSocular herpes? Even distilled water can make the eye uncomfortable. If you mix just enough salt in it to make it a saline solution, it will be less of a problem. However all the ionic portion over about .8 or so ppm will settle out, but the colloidal portion will be untouched.
Re: CSSwine Flu
I think it is an engineered flu http://www.google.com/search?q=swine+flu+engineeredsourceid=navclient-ffie=UTF-8rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS177US229 http://www.google.com/search?q=microbiologists+killedsourceid=navclient-ffie=UTF-8rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS177US229 and the people who created it want to cause panic. The problem is that it is very hard to create a pandemic flu - if it has a high mortality rate - it is hard to spread, if it spreads quickly and easily - it usually has a low mortality rate. My guess is that this whole threat is to get us ready for martial law http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/commentary.asp?record_id=581 And/or to make money on the eventual vaccine http://www.google.com/search?q=swine+flu+vaccine+who+will+profitsourceid=navclient-ffie=UTF-8rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS177US229 And of course, Rumsfield will make a killing on all of the Tamiflu that will be given to the people who are sick with Swine Flu. http://www.google.com/search?q=rumsfield+tamiflusourceid=navclient-ffie=UTF-8rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS177US229 Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com : - Original Message - From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC To: cs Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:09 AM Subject: CSSwine Flu I do not under stand the how every one is responding to the Flu. The Flu turned out to be milder than every one thought. So many schools are closed in our area. This is first time I have seen them try to stop the Flu, normally it is left to run its course. Unless they are worried about the Flu changing for the worse, I do not see what all the worry is about. Could they be worried because there are no shots for this strain. Seems like there is a lot of Hype on this new Flu . Bob
Re: CSSwine Flu
Is it true that the off-topic list is down right now? (because I know that this is off-topic - kind of...) I agree with you Dave. I just found this video which supports the idea that Swine Flu is no worse than regular flu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT2HWdPFqMgIt is an interview with a family in Texas who has Swine Flu. Also forgot to add in my previous reply... Whether it is THIS Flu Pandemic or any other future Flu Pandemic they are able to unleash, do NOT take the vaccine. You can do your own research on weaponized flu vaccine. Also, there are rumors that this Swine Flu will come back worse in the fall - I suspect that it will simply come back in greater numbers (following the course of all flu outbreaks) and by then they will have a vaccine available and can capitalize on the increased number of cases to increase the fear! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com : - Original Message - From: Dave Linehan To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu On 5/5/2009 7:09 PM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote: I do not under stand the how every one is responding to the Flu. The Flu turned out to be milder than every one thought. So many schools are closed in our area. This is first time I have seen them try to stop the Flu, normally it is left to run its course. Unless they are worried about the Flu changing for the worse, I do not see what all the worry is about. Could they be worried because there are no shots for this strain. Seems like there is a lot of Hype on this new Flu . Bob Bob, Yes, this was manufactured in a lab and used to generate hysteria and hyped in the media. It was an effective way to distract people from the collapsing economy and get people used to more state control. They will unleash the real pandemic later. Opinion -- Dave LINEHAN 2 Connaught Place, #1239, Hong Kong [T] + 852 6335-6470 | [F] +852 3010-4819
Re: CSSwine Flu
more hysteria and nonsense... What? I stated that the Swine Flu is no worse than the regular flu. I am stating that the hysteria is being CREATED. My post is not hysteria and nonsense. If you are refering to my suggestion that you do your own research on weaponized flu vaccine - then yes, I understand that most people consider such a concept as hysteria and nonsense - many of those same people will take the vaccine when it is available. Regardless of whether it is weaponized or not, I don't believe in any vaccines - I believe in strong immune systems. Look what happened with the last Swine Flu vaccines. It is wrong, wrong, wrong that vaccine manufacturers have no liability for the untold damage that they have infliced on people all over the world. However, anyone who allows someone to inject something into their bloodstream (or their child's bloodstream) has to accept the ultimate responsibility for the outcome. It's not good to blindly trust what the experts tell you. I'm sure that the family members of those who died from the last Swine Flu vaccine could vouch for that! A question for you. If a laboratory accidentally released vaccines contaminated with LIVE Avian Flu virus to 18 countries, do you think that would be newsworthy? Surprisingly, the only non-conspiracy-theory source of information that I could find about this oops comes from one article in the Bloomberg Press. === http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124refer=sciencesid=aTo3LbhcA75I === The Austrian health ministry reported the incident to the European Union and is conducting its own audit, Rosenberger said. In response, Baxter said it has put in place preventive and corrective measures that the ministry found satisfactory. The vaccine has been destroyed, according to Rosenberger. The World Health Organization is aware of the situation and is consulting with the ministers of health of the countries involved to ensure that all public risks arising from this event have been identified and managed appropriately, said Gregory Hartl, a spokesman in Geneva. === ...and yet the same laboratory that made the above mention mistake (Baxter Laboratories) is among the list of vaccine manufacturers working with WHO on the current Swine Flu vaccine. shaking head here... Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:00 AM Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu more hysteria and nonsense... On May 5, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Lea Ann Savage wrote: Is it true that the off-topic list is down right now? (because I know that this is off-topic - kind of...) I agree with you Dave. I just found this video which supports the idea that Swine Flu is no worse than regular flu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT2HWdPFqMg It is an interview with a family in Texas who has Swine Flu. Also forgot to add in my previous reply... Whether it is THIS Flu Pandemic or any other future Flu Pandemic they are able to unleash, do NOT take the vaccine. You can do your own research on weaponized flu vaccine. Also, there are rumors that this Swine Flu will come back worse in the fall - I suspect that it will simply come back in greater numbers (following the course of all flu outbreaks) and by then they will have a vaccine available and can capitalize on the increased number of cases to increase the fear! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com :
Re: CSSwine Flu
I apologize for possibly beating a dead horse, but... I found an article that articulates my concerns very well: http://www.naturalnews.com/z025760.html If a meteor was headed for earth and top scientists knew that it would cause the death of millions of people - wouldn't it be a newsworthy event if someone (or some organization) was able to change the meteor's course and avert the disaster? Had the vaccines containing the live Avian Flu virus not been discovered before being injected into human beings, it had the potential to launch the deadly Bird Flu pandemic that scientist are now saying, it's not a matter of if, but of when it will happen. There are only two possibilities: 1) Baxter Labs is so incompetent that it is not following biosafety level 3 proceedures... or 2) It was done intentionally. Either way, how is it possible that Baxter Labs is still making vaccines??? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com : - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:00 AM Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu more hysteria and nonsense... On May 5, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Lea Ann Savage wrote: Is it true that the off-topic list is down right now? (because I know that this is off-topic - kind of...) I agree with you Dave. I just found this video which supports the idea that Swine Flu is no worse than regular flu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT2HWdPFqMg It is an interview with a family in Texas who has Swine Flu. Also forgot to add in my previous reply... Whether it is THIS Flu Pandemic or any other future Flu Pandemic they are able to unleash, do NOT take the vaccine. You can do your own research on weaponized flu vaccine. Also, there are rumors that this Swine Flu will come back worse in the fall - I suspect that it will simply come back in greater numbers (following the course of all flu outbreaks) and by then they will have a vaccine available and can capitalize on the increased number of cases to increase the fear! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com : - Original Message - From: Dave Linehan To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu On 5/5/2009 7:09 PM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:I do not under stand the how every one is responding to the Flu. The Flu turned out to be milder than every one thought. So many schools are closed in our area. This is first time I have seen them try to stop the Flu, normally it is left to run its course. Unless they are worried about the Flu changing for the worse, I do not see what all the worry is about. Could they be worried because there are no shots for this strain. Seems like there is a lot of Hype on this new Flu . BobBob, Yes, this was manufactured in a lab and used to generate hysteria and hyped in the media. It was an effective way to distract people from the collapsing economy and get people used to more state control. They will unleash the real pandemic later. Opinion -- Dave LINEHAN 2 Connaught Place, #1239, Hong Kong [T] + 852 6335-6470 | [F] +852 3010-4819 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSwine Flu
Thanks Marshall, Sometime people scan only words or phrases and form a quick opinion of what a writer is trying to say. I have been guilty of that myself! If that is the case here... no problem. Or, he could be referring to weaponized flu vaccine and calling that more hysteria and nonsense. If that is the case, I still see no problem because I find that very few people have the time or the inclination that I do to sit down and research topics. Also, on the face of it, it is a radical concept. Clayton Family... feel free to let us know which of the above was the case for you! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com : - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:09 PM Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu Huh? That the Swine Flue is not worse than the regular flu is hysteria and nonsense? You must have a different definition of hysteria than I do, and the data thus far supports that statement, so how is it nonsense? Marshall Clayton Family wrote: more hysteria and nonsense... On May 5, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Lea Ann Savage wrote: Is it true that the off-topic list is down right now? (because I know that this is off-topic - kind of...) I agree with you Dave. I just found this video which supports the idea that Swine Flu is no worse than regular flu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT2HWdPFqMgIt is an interview with a family in Texas who has Swine Flu. Also forgot to add in my previous reply... Whether it is THIS Flu Pandemic or any other future Flu Pandemic they are able to unleash, do NOT take the vaccine. You can do your own research on weaponized flu vaccine. Also, there are rumors that this Swine Flu will come back worse in the fall - I suspect that it will simply come back in greater numbers (following the course of all flu outbreaks) and by then they will have a vaccine available and can capitalize on the increased number of cases to increase the fear! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com : - Original Message - From: Dave Linehan To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu On 5/5/2009 7:09 PM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:I do not under stand the how every one is responding to the Flu. The Flu turned out to be milder than every one thought. So many schools are closed in our area. This is first time I have seen them try to stop the Flu, normally it is left to run its course. Unless they are worried about the Flu changing for the worse, I do not see what all the worry is about. Could they be worried because there are no shots for this strain. Seems like there is a lot of Hype on this new Flu . BobBob, Yes, this was manufactured in a lab and used to generate hysteria and hyped in the media. It was an effective way to distract people from the collapsing economy and get people used to more state control. They will unleash the real pandemic later. Opinion -- Dave LINEHAN 2 Connaught Place, #1239, Hong Kong [T] + 852 6335-6470 | [F] +852 3010-4819 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSocular herpes?
I want to thank everyone who replied to my question about occular herpes. I gave Luke a few drops in his eye last night and he said it made his eye feel uncomfortable. Marshall, I will take your cautionary advice under serious consideration. I have a SilverGen and I've always made batches with the knob turned to high (and I don't have a ppm meter). My CS has always been white as plain water so I've never worried about its quality. May I poll people on this list who have SilverGen machines and find out what you set your dial to and why? I would be very grateful to learn from you guys on this question. Would it be right to assume that if the silver rods were submersed to the same level and the same size jar was used that the different settings on the dial will produce relatively consistent PPMs? Are there purposes for which you make low PPM batches vs. higher PPM batches? Again, many thanks in advance... Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com :
Re: CSSwine Flu
Meteors hit the earth on a regular basis. Maybe at very long intervals, but geologically speaking, it happens ALL the time. I bet they have some ideas of what to do if it happens right now, too. The meteor thing was an analogy - the main point being a potential disaster was averted but the powers that be do not seem to be concerned and it did not make mainstream news. However, they seem to be VERY concerned about the Swine Flu (and the main stream news is making much ado about nothing). Do you see the discrepancy? It is always a matter of when, not if. They makes live virus vacs all the time, and they have killed lots of people for years. I don't think you are following what I am saying - or read what is on the website I linked to. This was NOT a live virus vaccine. (BTW Flu Vaccines are always killed virus except in the case of the nasal spray Flu Vaccine). This was an ACCIDENT of MONUMENTAL proportions. Let's completely eliminate the consideration that the H5N1 Avian Flu might have been released into the world's population via contaminated vaccines, we STILL have the issue of a laboratory that is CURRENTLY making childhood vaccines, and will possibly make a future Swine Flu vaccine that FAILED to follow Biosafety Level 3 protocols! This is unconscionable! HOW IS THIS NOT NEWS - but the Swine Flu is news??? BTW, I too requested the killed Polio vaccine for my oldest son back when they were still giving the live vaccine - the Pediatrician was very upset with me, but she gave it. I immunized my two oldest, but did not immunize my youngest - guess which child has the strongest immune system? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com : - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: Re: CSSwine Flu My comments are inserted below: On May 5, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Lea Ann Savage wrote: I apologize for possibly beating a dead horse, but... I found an article that articulates my concerns very well: http://www.naturalnews.com/z025760.html If a meteor was headed for earth and top scientists knew that it would cause the death of millions of people - wouldn't it be a newsworthy event if someone (or some organization) was able to change the meteor's course and avert the disaster? Meteors hit the earth on a regular basis. Maybe at very long intervals, but geologically speaking, it happens ALL the time. I bet they have some ideas of what to do if it happens right now, too. Had the vaccines containing the live Avian Flu virus not been discovered before being injected into human beings, it had the potential to launch the deadly Bird Flu pandemic that scientist are now saying, it's not a matter of if, but of when it will happen. It is always a matter of when, not if. They makes live virus vacs all the time, and they have killed lots of people for years. And someone's point of the bird flu being very virulent but not as easily transmissible since it kills it's host quickly is a good one. I have no idea why they still insist on making live virus vacs- they have been shown as dangerous for years and years, and it has been controversial for longer than I have been alive; at least back to the Salk/Sabin controversy (Salk was for killed vacs, Sabin for live vacs), and probably much longer. It is stupid! I ask. I refuse them. I let everybody there know that I will not pay for a live virus vac. In the past, I have had the doctor order killed vacs for me, without mercury. It is easy for them to do. They just have to make a call. They don't like it, but too bad. IMHO, it all comes down to money, and if people refuse to pay for them, they will eventually get the message. Best Wishes, Kathryn
Re: CSocular herpes?
The reason being? Thanks for the information BTW! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) www.VitaMixLady.com - Original Message - From: Thora Rasmussen To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:12 PM Subject: RE: CSocular herpes? If the virus is related to genital herpes at all, two things that work is to avoid chocolate and all nuts at all times. -- From: Lea Ann Savage [mailto:lsav...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSocular herpes? Hello, I have a SilverGen colloidal silver maker. I also have a 7 year old son who has had two ocular herpes outbreaks and is going to see a specialist about it because getting it so young (and having two outbreaks within a year) is very serious. He already has scarring from his second attack of occular herpes. This can lead to blindness. I am writing to ask if anyone has had any experience with ocular herpes and if not, what would you do? His current treatment is a drop of liquid anti-viral every 2 hours until the outbreak is gone (this last episode took SIX weeks to clear up!) This medicine hurts his eyes so much he has to wear an eye patch for light sensitivity. I am thinking that colloidal silver would not hurt his eye and that a drop of colloidal silver every hour would work. Does anyone think there would be any contraindications to using colloidal silver in the eye? I know that it is especially helpful on topical infections so I am pretty hopeful. Has anyone tried colloidal silver for lip herpes topically? Any results to report? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com www.PositiveMindRenewal.com www.EatToFeelGreat.com John 13:35 : No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.15/2093 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00
CSocular herpes?
Hello, I have a SilverGen colloidal silver maker. I also have a 7 year old son who has had two ocular herpes outbreaks and is going to see a specialist about it because getting it so young (and having two outbreaks within a year) is very serious. He already has scarring from his second attack of occular herpes. This can lead to blindness. I am writing to ask if anyone has had any experience with ocular herpes and if not, what would you do? His current treatment is a drop of liquid anti-viral every 2 hours until the outbreak is gone (this last episode took SIX weeks to clear up!) This medicine hurts his eyes so much he has to wear an eye patch for light sensitivity. I am thinking that colloidal silver would not hurt his eye and that a drop of colloidal silver every hour would work. Does anyone think there would be any contraindications to using colloidal silver in the eye? I know that it is especially helpful on topical infections so I am pretty hopeful. Has anyone tried colloidal silver for lip herpes topically? Any results to report? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) www.VitaMixLady.com www.PositiveMindRenewal.com www.EatToFeelGreat.com John 13:35 :
CSCS for Chronic Fatigue
Hello, I've battled Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for 8 1/2 years. I had a remission that lasted a year (and thought a was cured) but for the past week it has been back as strong as ever. I can't figure out why it came back (or exactly why it went away for that matter). I eat very well, am off of sugar, caffein, and wheat. I have a CS generator and have used it for sinuses, skin issues, and topical stuff... However, I'm thinking of trying CS internally now for the CFSID. Does anyone have any recommendations as to a daily dose? Also, I am using a SilverGen and always turned up the knob to high to get a high particle size for skin issues... should I make batches at a different strength to get smaller particles for internal use? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 (home) 321-961-9219 (cell) Will they know I'm a Christian by my love? John 13:35 Christian workers must always be sure the Lord of the work is more important to them than the work of the Lord. Arthur Burt www.TheShackBook.com www.JakeColsen.com (Two must read books!) : www.VitaMixLady.com
Re: CSCS for Chronic Fatigue
I wish it were that... I take magnesium to the point of the runs all of the time. I've been trying to piece together what changed in the past two weeks that could have brought on this sudden re-lapse. All I can think of is that I had been off of store bought vitamins for the year that I was feeling better and I had just purchased and started taking those vitamins again pretty close to the time that I started feeling exhausted again. Fingers crossed here that it is something as simple as a sensitivity to something in the Vitamins. However, I would still really like to hear from people on this list what amount of CS you take internally on a daily basis (if you take it daily). And, if I should use a different setting on my SilverGen in order to get a better particulate size for internal use. Many thanks in advance... Lea Ann Savage - Original Message - From: Gayla Roberts To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:49 PM Subject: Re: CSCS for Chronic Fatigue Magnesium deficiency often is misread as CFS. Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California aera...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Lea Ann Savage To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: CSCS for Chronic Fatigue Hello, I've battled Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for 8 1/2 years.
Re: CSCS for Chronic Fatigue
Thank you very much Kathryn, that was very helpful information. I will start taking it just as you described. Many thanks again! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:56 PM Subject: Re: CSCS for Chronic Fatigue Hi, Lea Ann, I take a shot glass of it, more or less, after I brush my teeth... On Jul 22, 2008, at 5:53 PM, Lea Ann Savage wrote: ... However, I would still really like to hear from people on this list what amount of CS you take internally on a daily basis (if you take it daily). And, if I should use a different setting on my SilverGen in order to get a better particulate size for internal use. Many thanks in advance... Lea Ann Savage
Re: CSSo many stomach complaints
Can you describe the mash a little bit better? Are you talking about a food processor? How much liquid is there and what size are the pieces of the cabbage? Do the bacterias come just from the cabbage itself? Do you rinse the cabbage before chopping? Sorry for all of the questions but this idea sounds easier than some of the other fermented brews that I've looked into and I'd like to try it. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8 - Original Message - From: Staya Udanvti Bob Butler To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:05 AM Subject: Re: CSSo many stomach complaints Hi All! I make my own good bacteria gut re-populator. Takes a little doing but is worth the effort. Take a full head of fresh cabbage, quarter and run lightly thru an electric chopper. Put this mash in a gallon conatiner, class preferably, add enough distilled water to cover. Close the container with cheese cloth to keep out bugs and other contaminanrts. Set in a dark corner for ten days, pour off the liquid, I use a sun tea jug so I can refrigerate it. Drink a cup or two a day. Works better for me than acidolphilus of any brand. Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti
Re: CSSo many stomach complaints
Thanks for the details! It's hard to believe that it does it all by itself with nothing but water and cabbage! I'm going to try it! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8 - Original Message - From: Staya Udanvti Bob Butler To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CSSo many stomach complaints Hi Lea Ann! Of course I rinse the head off before cutting it to fit in the food processor. I do not chop it very long so the shredded pieces are larger, ~quarter size. I pour the small amount of liquid from the chopper into the jug along with the mash also. I pour from a Wal-Mart gallon of distilled water into the 1/2 full of mash sun tea jug until it almost reaches the top, 1/2 or so down.. I put the open air cap lid on and bind cheese cloth over the opening and store at room temp of about 70ºF. When it is fermented and after removing the hard stuff I do add a tablespoon of sea salt or canning salt for flavoring. Do not use table salt here either as the additives will kill the mixture. If you slice the cabbage into 1/8 thick slices and leave the fermentation for about a month you will have the best sauerkraut ever. A large head of cabbage will make five gallons of sauerkraut. Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti Hampton, VA - Original Message - From: Lea Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: Re: CSSo many stomach complaints Can you describe the mash a little bit better? Are you talking about a food processor? How much liquid is there and what size are the pieces of the cabbage? Do the bacterias come just from the cabbage itself? Do you rinse the cabbage before chopping? Sorry for all of the questions but this idea sounds easier than some of the other fermented brews that I've looked into and I'd like to try it. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8 - Original Message - From: Staya Udanvti Bob Butler To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:05 AM Subject: Re: CSSo many stomach complaints Hi All! I make my own good bacteria gut re-populator. Takes a little doing but is worth the effort. Take a full head of fresh cabbage, quarter and run lightly thru an electric chopper. Put this mash in a gallon conatiner, class preferably, add enough distilled water to cover. Close the container with cheese cloth to keep out bugs and other contaminanrts. Set in a dark corner for ten days, pour off the liquid, I use a sun tea jug so I can refrigerate it. Drink a cup or two a day. Works better for me than acidolphilus of any brand. Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti
Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms
Ode, Do you know which kind of store I would go to to find a valve to control the rate of flow? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8 - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net Subject: Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms That's a good idea. And you can probably direct the flow to avoid high velocity eddies and use a pressure bypass loop hose and a valve to control rate of flow. ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Gel and Warts?
Thanks Marshal, when I get my colloidal silver maker back up and running - I'll try that! Austin has lots and lots of warts. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8 - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: CSCS Gel and Warts? I have found that CS mixed with aloe vera works very well for warts. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms
Hey Marshal, Ode said, If you stir too fast, one of the electrodes develops a thick grey beard... would a water pump stir the water too fast? I'm using a quart jar - perhaps if I made it with a water pump and a gallon container because of the size of the container the water would not stir too much? Ideas and suggestions welcomed! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8 - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms I think the easiest way to stir is to simply get a small aquarium filter pump, and pump the water around the container. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Any AC or DC motor will be very difficult to slow down enough to do CS right and still start itself turning...and turn that slow in a stable manner. If you stir too fast, one of the electrodes develops a thick grey beard of silver stabilized hydrogen bubbles that tends to insulate that electrode and drops off into the water when it gets heavy enough. Some floats, some sinks. A gear head motor works far better. Even then, spin bar size should be tailored to batch size. ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms
I hope this isn't too dumb of a question but do you make your CS in the aquarium? If you don't... could you? I know there is silicon glue in there. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8 - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms I don't think so. I would have the pump pull from a tube at the bottom of the jar, and then simply dump the water out of the outlet tube into the top of the jar. I think the easiest way is to buy an aquarium kit for about $25, they you get the gallon tank, the stirring pump, and a light and cover. I use this one: http://www.petguys.com/pet-guys/-047431502860.html and can be purchased at probably any local pet store. I simply run it without the filter cartridge. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms
Hello, I have a SilverGen colloidal silver maker and when the stirring mechanism worked, I could make crystal clear, wonderful colloidal silver but my stirring mechanism broke. I tried adding oil at the base and that worked for a while but now the stirrer won't work at all. I can't find the order page or a contact e-mail on the silver puppy website - I know the owner is on this list... can you tell me if you can sell me just a magnetic base with the stir thing that goes inside the jar so I can have stirring going on while my silvergen is on? Thanks in advance. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms
I'm feeling really dumb but I can't find a clickable link on that page to get me to an order form and I can't tell if I can get just the magnedtic stirring unit all by itself (not the silver generator portion). Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8 - Original Message - From: Sam Mureno To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms Hi Lea Ann The URL is http://silverpuppy.com/page1b.html See item number 8, Mag stirer. Im not the owner, just one happy customer. Sam L. On 9/30/06, Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Hello, I have a SilverGen colloidal silver maker and when the stirring mechanism worked, I could make crystal clear, wonderful colloidal silver but my stirring mechanism broke. I tried adding oil at the base and that worked for a while but now the stirrer won't work at all. I can't find the order page or a contact e-mail on the silver puppy website - I know the owner is on this list... can you tell me if you can sell me just a magnetic base with the stir thing that goes inside the jar so I can have stirring going on while my silvergen is on? Thanks in advance. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8
Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms
I FOUND IT! THANKS SAM! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8 - Original Message - From: Lea Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:52 PM Subject: Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms I'm feeling really dumb but I can't find a clickable link on that page to get me to an order form and I can't tell if I can get just the magnedtic stirring unit all by itself (not the silver generator portion). Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8 - Original Message - From: Sam Mureno To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms Hi Lea Ann The URL is http://silverpuppy.com/page1b.html See item number 8, Mag stirer. Im not the owner, just one happy customer. Sam L.
CSCS Gel and Warts?
Hi Sam, Do you think the gel would be good for warts? My son has a lot of them and spraying colloidal silver on it would take many applications a day. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 www.FreeFashionJewelry.com We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately! (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-) Philippians 4:8 - Original Message - From: Sam Mureno To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 2:03 PM Subject: Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms Hi Lea Ann I'm glad you found it. It took me some time to figure it out also. I'm sorry the URL I posted wouldn't take you right to it. Ode also sells a nice gel kit, item number 18, for making CS tropical gel. Its the lowest price Ive seen anywhere and am real happy with it. I use it on my face after shaving and also on cuts and scrapes and also any skin rashes. I picked up a bad skin rash in Brazil and this was the only thing that killed it for good. It also stopped some of my mothers skin cancer. I think it would of stopped all of it but the medical docs got a look see on her annual checkup and talked her into surgery. Ive also used it for burns and sun burns with great success. Thanks Ode. The mag stirrer works great for me, just remember theres a spinner in the CS jar. I lost one by dumping the water out on a experimental batch that went bad on me. Sam L.
Re: CSproduct to nancy-web site to lea ann
Hello Betsy, I hadn't done that but just did and they mention it but have no recommendations as to cure or ideas about cause. Thanks for the website. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage - Original Message - From: Betsy Coffey latimergi...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: CSproduct to nancy-web site to lea ann Lea Ann, have you googled rarediseases.org for your friends illness? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDercum's Disease?
Hello, I'm doing a stab in the dark by writing to this list - hoping that I can find some information that can help my friend who has Dercum's Disease (very rare). http://www.dercumshope.org/whatisit.php http://dercums_data.tripod.com/index.html Apparently it has been known about for over 100 years but no one is researching this disease. It causes painful fatty tumors all over my friend's body. I noticed on the websites two different theories one being viral and one being parasitic. (The current accepted theory is that it is genetic). If it were viral then I think CS should help? If parasitic, wouldn't a microelectrical device work? If anyone has any ideas of what I should recommend to my friend I would greatly appreciate them. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 I keep trying to make my house child-proof but they keep getting in anyway -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and sleep
I have mercury issues and as I understand it, mercury causes increased yeast in the body. Any time I take remedies that kill off yeast I have insomnia. In my case, I whenever I take large doses (10 oz. or more) of CS I tend to have insomnia but I know that for me, it is the yeast die-off effect. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Faith Saint Francis faithstfran...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:30 PM Subject: CSCS and sleep Hi Forum! I asked a question about CS before sleeping .. if it disturbs the normal sleeping cycle .. and did not get any reaction? Mebbe now I will? FSF -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVVSBOSIDW :-)
I vote for VVSBOSIDW (Very, Very Small Bits Of Silver In Distilled Water) grin How about SEIDW (Silver Electrically Isolated in Distilled Water)? Kind of awkward I know... Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: spam: CSMore nanosilver Matthew said, I vote for EIS. It is not trademarked. It describes the production process as well as the product. Which product does EIS describe? The stuff that Stan Jacobs brewed? That was electrically/electrolytically isolated silver. EIS only refers to what it is possible to brew with electricity... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSthanks and nano questions
Hello (BTW, what's your name?), Before I purchased my SG6 Silver Generator I felt nervous and confused as you do. After I read through this website: www.silvermedicine.org (especially the information on argyria) I felt comfortable buying the unit and drinking liberally (up to a pint a day at times). Also, the information I've read on this list every time this subject comes up makes me feel certain that silver generated properly in DISTILLED WATER is safe. Good luck to you in your research! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: feather...@netscape.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: CSthanks and nano questions Many thanks to stuff, tw11LL, Steve, and Vince for the info:) I have made 3 batches with my new generator, but this weekend went and got another bottle of Sovereign Silver for taking internally. The reasonI still dont know what the safe dossage for the SG6 Silver Gen is. Does anyone know? Is the silvergen making a nano size? Is the Sovereign Silver hydrosol at their report of .0006 and 150 million particles of silver per drop smaller than nano size and therefore safer? Is there a range of nano sizes that are all safe? Terry chamberlin...(my middle name is chamberlin) can you explain why this is so confusing to know the truth about? Researching colloidal silver on the net is very complicated due to such diverse information. Even if by some miracle consumers had atomic microscopes to check out each product...who could interpet the results? Im thankful i didnt buy the silver at our local health food store! It was 553 parts per million and mixed with protein and the owne! r purchases it from a guy from mexico. The grey folklore, and quackwatch on the web pages are pretty scary and add a burden of doubt to continue the search to enjoy the benefits of silver. It would be a blessing if the silverlist pros could get some truth out on the main web pages for silver:)Terry...bless your heart for helping so many with their problems...wish you could put it in walmart for a dollar a gallon:) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer file
Is it easy to get? Where does one get them? Asian Market? Health Food Store? Thanks. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:48 AM Subject: Re: CSCancer file Connie, An umeboshi plum is a japanese pickled, fermented plum. It is highly alkaline and a great aid to digestion. It has been known to destroy food born pathogens and cure cases of food poisoning. It is used throughout Asia and has been a part of their traditional diet for many centuries.
Re: CSAllergic
Hi Jill, I know of NAET and TAT as energy methods for dealing with allergies - are you thinking of one of these? A note, many autistic kids (and ADHD kid for that matter) have multiple allergies. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: grace1...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: Re: CSAllergic In a message dated 11/17/2005 5:17:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, tcj...@yahoo.ca writes: Aren't we all allergic to thermisol?? Mercury is a neurotoxin, and causes a host of negative consequences, the degree and type of which depend on many other factors relative to the individual and his/her environment. However, we are not all allergic to it, or allergic to it to the same degree. This explains why only some children out of a group vaccinated with a preparation containing Thermisol(is this correct spelling?) will become autistic. In a recent post a list member was asking for assistance for autistic symptoms which developed in a child subsequent to vaccination. Another list member sent information for asthma, which was not requested, but it came out that the autistic child's mother had asthma! Asthma, of course, is related to allergies. So, we are seeing that it is the children who already have allergic sensitivities, and genetic predisposition to allergic reactions, who become autistic subsequent to vaccination. Allergic sensitivities have a genetic component. In my experience, individuals who suffer consequences of mercury toxicity may become free of same by densensitizing the allergen, without removing the mercury. An example of this would be an individual I know who chose not to have their entire dental work (including root canals, redone, with teeth pulled), but simply densensitized to the mercury, with relief of symptoms. Then I have seen cases where the neurotoxin (in this case surgical anesthesia resulting in paralysis) could no longer be expected to be affecting the subject (35 years later), yet the paralysis continued until the person was desensitized to the anesthesia. Sometimes, even upon removing the presence of the allergen, the allergic reaction continues because the body has been reprogrammed on an energetic level (blockage of energy meridians); hence, removing the physical cause (allergen) does not always take care of the problem. Jill
Re: CSvaccines and dental implants
Here's the Govt.'s information regarding thimerosal in general http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm Here's the Govt.'s information regarding thimerosal and the flu shot http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm There is a list of vaccines containing thimerosal at this link http://www.thimerosal-news.com/ Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Heather King (LCA) heather.k...@microsoft.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:07 PM Subject: RE: CSvaccines and dental implants The release I signed before my flu shot a week ago said to NOT get the shot if you were allergic to thimerosol...they're still using it for adult, mass-produced doses as far as I can see. Don't know about childhood disease vacs. H. -Original Message- From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSvaccines and dental implants Thanks for the web site sam. someone posted earlier that they saw a sign about thermisol in vaccines and was wondering if they had stopped using it. From what I understand, it is not used anymore in infant vaccines but they still use it in hep vaccines and flue shots. Doesn anyone confirm this? I wonder what they use as a substitute for mercury in infant vaccines? Will they ever tell us? Also, for anyone considering dental implants. I have one thing to say. I would think twice before considering this. I wish that I had never had it done. I ended up having them out due to infections which I have never quite recovered from. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: HIV
Hello Andy, Here is a link to a very helpful group that focuses on making colloidal gold: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange Hope this is helpful! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: andy andraschko andyan...@telkomsa.net To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:00 AM Subject: CSRe: HIV Hi to all, My name is Andy Andraschko and I am a new member (silent so far) of this group, I am listening and learning. Very interesting comments and ideas. I am using and producing it for the best part of 2 years now and have never been sick since (usually twice a year colds and flu). I also make colloidal copper what has also fantastic results with sore, inflamed joints and even restoring cartilage damage to a certain extent. Recently a friend of mine approached me with the question of treating HIV with CS, maybe someone in this group has first hand experience with results and dosages for treatment (orally). I would also like to ask the members of this group if anybody has any experience with colloidal gold (using and making) it. I am trying for some time now to get plans to build a colloidal gold maker to no avail, it seems a very closely guarded secret. As I am residing in South Africa where is little available in the line of colloidal's I have to make a plan for myself. Greetings Andy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOff Topic List -- too quiet!
I posted a message to the OT list at least 2 hours ago and it hasn't shown up in my e-mail folder yet... any ideas? Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:01 AM Subject: CSOff Topic List -- too quiet! Volume on the Off Topic List is sporadic. Since it was discussed here yesterday, only a couple people have posted tentative messages wondering where everybody is! So, just post those OT topics to silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com and see who answers! Remember, folks: Civility is still required on the OT list, even when discussing controversial topics. Thicken your skin so you won't take offense when none is meant, be gentle in what you say and how you say it. Treat others as friends there, as they are here. Oh, and don't really expect to change too many minds!! grin I'll be listening. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner Harper writes: I really want to go into some detailed questions about how to build sustainable housing but on that list so we don't clog you up. BTW I don't get any email from that list, though I am subscribed. possibly reasons. 1. no email going out on that list. 2. I subscribed to a digest and don't know it 3. they are going out on that list and I don't recognize it because they are all from the same people! Harper [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS:.to Ode re log house
Hi Harold, Just curious, was this a typo or a funny? If it wasn't meant to be a funny it could be used that way! :-) Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Harold MacDonald To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:42 PM Subject: CSCS:.to Ode re log house About 35 years ago,my bitter half and I built a Log house/cabin
CSGod's Creation? Question for Mike D.
Hello Mike, I am very interested in this topic and want to respond but won't because of your request to drop the subject. If we move it to the Off-Topic list and if we remain civil, may we discuss this topic? Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Bill Keen To: grace1...@aol.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:40 AM Subject: CSGod's Creation? Wow! In MY family, the only one as dumb as a vegetable had been struck by lightning! Genesis tells us that everything was made for man. Killing and eating flesh was the result of Adam's sin and began after they were expelled from the Garden of Eden. The fruits and grains were always meant for man to consume. As for forgiveness, He is faithful and just to forgive AFTER you have successfully repented. Until you have changed your thinking to stop sinning He CAN'T forgive the ongoing sins. Sin is in the thought, not the deed. Deeds are the result of thoughts. Bill Keen
Re: CSis alkaline water necessary for making good CS...?
Hi Nenah, Wouldn't adding lemon juice to your water make it alkaline? (I'm talking about drinking water not for CS making) Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 6:10 PM Subject: Re: CSis alkaline water necessary for making good CS...? Back to the acid-alkaline issue: Nearly every health professional I talk to, and all the research I've read, says that alkaline water is better for you than acidic water -- and that in fact, acidic water can cause all sorts of health problems. I think it's a good idea to treat the CS with SOMETHING to raise the pH. But DON'T put it in before you make the silver solution -- put it in *afterward,* or else you won't be able to make a viable colloidal silver product.
CSPediatricians firing patients
Hello, I read your article with interest. I can easily come up with a handful of mothers here in Brevard County, FL who have been fired by their pediatricians and those are only the ones that I know of. When I saw the vaccine damage done to my oldest two sons (ages 7 and 10) I finally had the strength to say no to my pediatrician about immunizing my youngest (now age 3). We were promptly fired with no other explanation than we won't see your infant if you don't immunize. Between the two of my immunized children they suffered with ADD, ADHD, Dyslexia, severe Asthma, Eczema, and very severe ear infections (my middle son's ear infection lasted from the age of 4 months until 6 years old). My 3 year old has never been to see the pediatrician except for well child visits and one respiratory infection when he was two years old. About being fired, there was only one pediatrician and one general practice physician in the entire county that I could locate that would see me if I refused to immunize. I found your article to be biased towards the established medical system. I wish that mainstream media would expose issues like the conflicts of interest in vaccine policy making http://www.909shot.com/COFRpt.htm then, people would be less inclined to believe statements from your article like, multiple studies by prestigious scientific groups have found no evidence that vaccines cause autism. But back to the gist of your article, I don't think you tried very hard to locate parents fired by their pediatricians. An article from their perspective would be a good counter balance to the article from the pediatrician's point of view. I have been fired and I have also had the Department of Children and Family Services called on me for medical neglect simply because I have a Religions Exemption from Vaccinations on file for my children at school. Parents who choose not to immunize are routinely harassed. Now there is an article topic for you! Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 I keep trying to make my house child-proof but they keep getting in anyway -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSACAM link
Hi Ole Bob, That was VERY helpful THANKS! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Robert Berger To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: Re: CSPediatricians firing patients Lea Ann, Lookup the ACAM and they will tell you who will do it . It is a list of Alternatives doctors. Ole Bob
CSFw: SORe: CSPediatricians firing patients
Hello Catherine, This is the only post so far on the Silver OT list regarding this topic... - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: SORe: CSPediatricians firing patients My ideas on this pushing of vaccines and giving no credence to the risks/dangers of vaccinating by pediatiricians is as always follow the money. I've read much back and forth on the subject of vaccinating animals, and a huge part of the answer of vet hostility seems to be that vets make a lot of their money from vaccs. I read somewhere that vaccination income can be as high as 60 to 80 % of a veterinary practice's total income (from my admittedly poor memory--no refernce to hand) If true, it would not surprise me at all if similar figures apply to pediatric practices. Certainly I have gotten the idea from discussion of the topic of vaccination that even school requirments that children be vaccinated before being admitted, plus city/town and county/state laws regarding animal vaccination requirements were mainly all pushed through to support profits. I don't doubt most of the politicians at the lowest levels (city councilmen, etc) thought they were protecting health and safety, but go up the line to state and national politicians likely to be directly involved in the pharmaceutical industries and there is surely a whole lot of self-interest involved. It always seems to be a matter of looking to see who directly profits from anything. Always, always follow the money. It is impossible to get any person to believe or act directly contrary to their own economic interest. sol Lea Ann wrote: I wish that mainstream media would expose issues like the conflicts of interest in vaccine policy making http://www.909shot.com/COFRpt.htm then, people would be less inclined to believe statements from your article like, multiple studies by prestigious scientific groups have found no evidence that vaccines cause autism. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Wash Post article
Hi Christine, My entire post was a copy of the letter I sent to the author of the article. In the article the author claimed that he had difficulty finding parents who had been fired by their pediatricians. I just copied the list because I thought some might be interested. Sorry for the confusion. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: cmccau...@kayescholer.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:25 PM Subject: CSRe: Wash Post article Thanks Roma for putting the link on here. I forgot too. Duh. Regarding: I found your article to be biased towards the established medical system. True. The article was pure big pharma propaganda and written by someone who sides with them. Plain and simple. Most prime time news has an agenda and it's not in the alternative health movement's favor. But back to the gist of your article, I don't think you tried very hard to locate parents fired by their pediatricians. Lea Ann, Why would we be trying to locate these parents? This I don't understand. We didn't research or write the article. IMHO of course. Christine Mc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS, was Re: CSTooth Soap
Isn't this also the kind of silver product that causes argyria? Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:01 PM Subject: Re: CSEIS, was Re: CSTooth Soap A silver products with that high of a ppm is certain a mild silver protein product. This is the weakest of the silver types. They have to make the ppm really high in order to do anything. You might try ionic silver instead. You can make it yourself very cheaply and easily. -Ken Bagwell --- Kathelee kathe...@verizon.net wrote: thanks I have been taking cs 500 ppm, a few drops a day a few years... Do you know if i can change to a lesser amount and if so would i have to take more of it to equal the dosage i take now...I've been taking it for sinus infections. I think if i took a lesser amount now it wouldn't have any effect? appreciate any feedback, kathe...@verizon.net -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScomposite fillings
My experience has been the same as Heather's. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Heather King (LCA) heather.k...@microsoft.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 1:10 AM Subject: RE: CScomposite fillings Yes, actually...I've had anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months of cold sensitivity as each filling was changed out. I assumed it was normal since I had the same thing back when I got the amalgams in the first place. My dentist's explanation was that live nerves were exposed when the amalgam was removed the pit was cleaned, so sensitivity is normal depending on the nerve exposure/contact. All has since subsided for me though...my composites look act like nothing ever took place. Love them. Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAutism
Hello Paula, This is a very sad and very difficult situation to be in. Some things to consider: 1) Homeopathy to help with vaccine damage. 2) Mercury Removal http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/ This groups has TONS of knowledge about more than just mercury chelation. 3) Autism Research Institute http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/index.htm A best place to start educating herself. My thoughts and prayers go out to her. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Paula Perry To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 7:21 AM Subject: CSAutism Does anyone know of an effective treatment for Autism? If anyone has any first hand experience with a treatment that seems to help I would appreciate any advice. I am trying to help one of my students. She has a 22 month old little boy. He appeared normal until he was vaccinated at 8 months old. She said he was ill after the vaccination and then started to regress. He now displays all the behaviors and characteristics of Autism. She does think it is related to the vaccination and is educated about vaccination. She is desperately looking for a way to help her little boy. Thanks, Paula
Re: CSRe: Re: CSpotassium vs. sodium salt vs. no salt
- Original Message - From: grace1...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Re: CSpotassium vs. sodium salt vs. no salt Please tell me what is the proportion of DMSO to be added to the CS, what is the strength, and where to get it, and anything else I need to know to flush sinuses with the DMSO/CS combination. Thank you, Jill Hi Jill, Here is sol's reply to the questions about proportion, strenth, and where to get it... I am somewhat sensitive to DMSO so I keep it weak. I have read here (I believe Richard Harris said it) that DMSO is effective at even 2 % added to EIS. For topical herpes cold sore treatment my husband uses a mix of about half and half DMSO/EIS. (the DMSO we use is 99.9% pure veterinary grade, looks like the brand sold at www.jeffersequine.com, but I can get it locally). For my eye and nose drops, I use a one ounce dropper bottle, and put in one whole dropper of DMSO, and fill with EIS. I have been thinking of adding two droppersful DMSO but haven't tried that yet. For nebulizing I use 1 oz EIS (mine is around 12-15 ppm)- 1/2 to 1 teaspoon pure MSM crystals (Opti-msm)- and 5 drops of DMSO. This is for my chronic URI pet rabbit, and it is used for ear drops as well (but NOT for eyes--the MSM doesn't hurt eyes, but it stings like the devil--when I used it in my rabbit's eye without testing it on me first is when he bit through my thumbnail, I had it coming!). Since he gets nebulized on a regular basis, I always have it made up, so I just use the same stuff for us humans. But if it was only for humans, one could add more DMSO, according to tolerance. I'm trying to use a mouthwash (I swish and hold as long as I can stand it) of 10% DMSO and 90% EIS for my root-canal teeth, but am finding it *very* difficult to use even once a day, as it is really foul. Doesn't bother my husband though: he used it for weeks twice or more a day, for a possible abscess. I don't really measure anything anymore except the recipe for my bunny. For us humans, for soaks, mouthwashes, or whatever, I just ballpark the porportions of DMSO to EIS. When my cat sprained a toe I wetted it with the 10% DMSO to EIS. He didn't like it being dipped, so I just soaked a cotton ball in the mix and dabbed it on until the toe was wet to the skin. I only mention this because the vet wanted to put him on preventive antibiotics for it, because she said this kind of injury in cats often gets abscessed/infected. He healed up fine without them, with just the EIS/DMSO treatment. Did I forget anything? sol
Re: CSAutism
Hello Laurie, Thank you for your informative post! Here is what I consider to be the best source of information on Colloidal Silver: www.silvermedicine.org Here are the two most often recommended CS makers: SilverGen SG6: http://www.silvergen.com/shop/index.php?shop=1cart=24871cat=1noCookiePassThrough=YPHPSESSID=28f207eee4009623e5eac0f45d92aa0c Silver Puppy: http://www.silverpuppy.com/page1b.html You could not go wrong with either machine. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Laurie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: CSAutism Rapid Eye Technology was developed over 20 years ago because the person had an autistic child. It is also a very effective way with working with autism and many other problems. I took the training in June, and the improvement in my own life alone has been incredible. You can read more about it on http://www.rapideyetechnology.com The VA has also approved it for PSTD treatment for veterans. The Emotional Freedom Technique DOES work. It is something people can learn and implement themselves. Rapid Eye takes things further and clears the body at deeper levels of the neuro pathways. The Food Allergy Cure by Dr. Ellen Cutler describes and illustrates the Nambudripad technique, basically. You can do this to yourself or have a friend help you. It is not quite as effective as if you pay $50 a pop to have one allergy elminated at a time, but it will lessen the symptoms. And you can redo the technique as many times as you need to as you learn what works and what doesn't. The human body is very complex. From what I've seen, healing can be approached from either the physical standpoint or the finer aspects of the emotional distortion. Clearing things at the emotional level usually has a longer lasting effect but is generally more work. Since it has been recently shown that our thoughts change our DNA, our good health resides within us. I am enjoying this list, but still cannot get the jist of Colloidal Silver and it's creation. The technical things just go over my head. Is there a reliable machine I can just purchase? And can a person use silver coins to make the juice? Thank you, Laurie Transform Your Life with the Blink of your Eyes Laurie Solisz, RN Healing Science Practitioner http://www.barbarabrennan.com Certified Rapid Eye Technician http://www.rapideyetechnology.com Affecting world health one person at a time http://www.lovehealth.matol.com
Re: CSRe: Mexican Dentists
Who sent this? Who is twll56? Lea Ann - Original Message - From: twll56 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 10:01 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Mexican Dentists drmorales...@yahoo.com
Re: CSRe: Regarding salt lamps and Lea Ann
Hi Harper, I don't know if I'm going to a Mexican dentist yet but I REALLY want to. Rest assured that if I decide to go I'll let everyone know what my experience was like! About the Flair, I just looked up my cost... it is $229.00. I really don't care if I profit from the sale of one of these as it is not my focus right now, but I pay my annual $35.00 dues every year because I keep getting referrals from past customers. So if you wanted to make a contribution towards the dues I paid this year that would be great! I have to say that I love my Flair. BUT, I am very ambiguous about the safety of the ozone in the air. It is this issue that keeps me from really trying to sell these units more aggressively. What I love about the Flair is the sanitize feature where the ozone blasts at full strength for an hour then turns off. I will sanitize when I know I am not going to be around to breath the ozone but otherwise I leave it off. (I put my pillows in plastic bags and ozone them weekly) I also tent my bed with plastic and ozone the mattress, etc. I can't tell you how many people I've sold units to that I've given them DETAILED instructions about keeping the ozone level off (except to sanitize) or down very low, but they blast it on high anyway. This is why I feel so ambiguous about selling them. Anyway... Your story about your day was TOO funny. Oh, and I wanted to let you know that I am really glad you asked your question because I had never heard of Salt Lamps and now am very interested in them! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: siriu...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Regarding salt lamps and Lea Ann Thank all you so much. I have never heard of salt lamps before but I am getting everyone in my family one for Xmas. They call me the weirdo from California anyway so why not? It gives them all something to gossip about all year anyway. Maybe they will all get out the salt lamp and fire it up to show their friends how weird Californians are and get well while they are gossiping. Lea Ann I may take you up on your offer but only if you take something for yourself. You are too good a person and buying an air purifier from an angel is win win for me but does nothing for you. I want to know more about the Mexican dentists too and your experiences. Sorry I did not get back to anyone yesterday. I was in the Twilight Zone. The only weird thing that did not happen to me was that I was NOT abducted by space aliens. It started with a pipe breaking in my bathroom wall. It progressed to my cell phone malfunctioning and calling me continuously and ended with some strange woman driving up to me in a parking lot at 8 PM to tell me she was having a heart attack and asking if I could take her to the emergency room in her favorite hospital not the one that was close because she supposedly worked there. When we got there she ran out of the car leaving me with her keys. She just disappeared. Moral: CS can protect you from cancer and avian flu but you still may fall prey to bad landlords, renegade satellites and lunatics! Harper
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
Hi Ruth, I don't have a lot of knowledge in this area but that tender pocket next to the dead tooth would concern me. I find it hard to believe that a dead tooth is ok to remain in your mouth... seems to me like it would be a source for a focal infection. Best of luck to you as you gather information - I will be watching your thread with intereste. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:10 PM Subject: CSUnidentified subject! From Ruth Strackbein: I just had my bi-annual dental checkup. Dentist tells me I have a cracked filling on a tooth that holds my partial plate. He recommends fixing it with a silver crown. Anyone have any pros or cons about this procedure? This would remove the amalgam filling that is in there presently. Another tooth is a dead tooth that this dentist insists from x-rays, is okay. There is a pocket next to it which continues to be tender. Thought I would put this in since there is a thread about teeth going on at present. Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
or rather... I'll be watching your thread with INTEREST :-) - Original Message - From: Lea Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:18 PM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! Hi Ruth, I don't have a lot of knowledge in this area but that tender pocket next to the dead tooth would concern me. I find it hard to believe that a dead tooth is ok to remain in your mouth... seems to me like it would be a source for a focal infection. Best of luck to you as you gather information - I will be watching your thread with intereste. Blessings, Lea Ann
CSRe: Re: CSpotassium vs. sodium salt vs. no salt
Hello V, I think it might be because of the combination of salt with silver forming silver chloride? I don't understand the chemistry involved, but I have a personal experience of what can happen when you mix salt and colloidal silver. I had a sinus infection and I used to use saline to flush my sinuses by placing a large swig of salt water in my mouth then bending over the sink and allowing the water to go into my sinuses and I'd blow it out my nose into the sink. This would help clear the sinuses a little bit but during an infection it did not kill the infection. Then I learned a little bit about colloidal silver and bought a bottle at the health food store (before I got my silver gen SG6). I figured that I'd first flush with saline to loosen and remove as much gunk as possible the follow up with CS. I did this twice about a half an hour apart. About another half an hour later I honestly thought I was going to die from the pain in my sinuses. (o.k. I exaggerate a bit) I have a very high tolerance for pain, but it seemed like there was fire in between my eyes and I got a pounding headache. I quickly got on the curezone forum and asked for ideas and someone theorized that I had created too much silver chloride by following a saline flush with CS. I flushed with just saline a few times to help clear things up and about two hours later the pain was gone and that episode was over. The next morning the sinus infection was still going strong so I decided to use ONLY CS (I figured it had been long enough since my last saline flush that I wasn't going to create another silver chloride fire between the eyes episode). My thinking was that saline had never killed a sinus infection but possibly straight CS might. When I flush with just CS it burns much more than with saline water because sinuses are used to a saline condition and plain water or CS water is NOT saline so it burns some. Plain water and CS feel just the same to me. Anyway, I could easily put up with this kind of burning so I kept at the CS Only routine (running it into my mouth and out through my sinuses) about once an hour for the rest of the day. By the next morning I had beaten a sinus infection without antibiotics for the first time in my life. I was so impressed that I bought an SG6 that day! Moral of the story - don't mix CS and saline then flush your sinuses with it! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: V vzo...@yahoo.com To: siriu...@aol.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: spam: Re: CSpotassium vs. sodium salt vs. no salt Why use no salt? that is medical propaganda. You jsut need to use good salt thats all. V -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: C CSpotassium vs. sodium salt vs. no salt sinus
Hi Harper, I think that if you flushed with CS and DMSO as sol suggests and did it on a regular schedule that you would heal that cyst. I learned about the sinus flush from a yoga book when I was a teenager. It can be a bit complicated to do, but it is a more thorough and advanced practice than the neti pot method that is so often promoted. (I think it is because with the advanced sinus flush you don't have to buy a special pot so no one is promoting this method grin). Here is a good description of the different kinds of yoga nasal flushes http://www.yoga-age.com/asanas/neti.html the one I do is stage 3. I would be happy to explain in greater detail what I do. I learned it as a teenager by myself with only the book to consult so it's really not THAT difficult. I really think you could heal that cyst. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: siriu...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: CSRe: C CSpotassium vs. sodium salt vs. no salt sinus WoW I have a cyst in my sinus cavities and it has been there for years. Except when it becomes infected I don't notice it. When it becomes infected it drains into my teeth which is extremely painful. Outside of surgery I was told nothing could be done for it. h Harper
Re: CSRe: Re: CSpotassium vs. sodium salt vs. no salt
Hi sol, Where do you get your DMSO? I found some at my health food store but it was in a roller bottle. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Re: CSpotassium vs. sodium salt vs. no salt Adding DMSO to the CS for the sinus flushes might help. I add DMSO to my EIS for eye drops and nose drops, because as you say, EIS feels just like plain DW, and I find it very uncomfortable. I have also added plain salt or baking soda to EIS and that makes it more comfortable. What I'd guess happened to you is that the saline flush stripped out a lot of the mucous lining of the sinuses, then the CS was really contacting bare tissues, and unbuffered non-saline on bare sinus tissues (or in eyes) hurts. Doesn't bother some people but causes me pain and discomfort. My reason for adding DMSO instead of salts or baking soda is the DMSO adds transport of the EIS into tissues, and makes it more effective. It seems to me like adding salt or soda makes the EIS less effective. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScongestive heart failure - focal infection
Google Search results for Focal Infection http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclientie=UTF-8rls=GWYA,GWYA:2005-19,GWYA:enq=focal+infection Google Search results for Focal Infection + Root Canal http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclientie=UTF-8rls=GWYA,GWYA:2005-19,GWYA:enq=focal+infection+root+canal Google Search results for Focal Infection + Congestive Heart Failure http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclientie=UTF-8rls=GWYA,GWYA:2005-19,GWYA:enq=focal+infection+congestive+heart+failure Google Search results for Root Canal + Congestive Heart Failure http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclientie=UTF-8rls=GWYA,GWYA:2005-19,GWYA:enq=root+canal+congestive+heart+failure Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Robert Berger To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 5:09 PM Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! Warning Almost invariable congestive heart failure is due to bacteria from the gums or fillings. Do the google search and you will verify that statement. A defective root canal became abscessed and it almost destroyed my heart. After antibiotics and the use of Dr Clark's zapper I improved, but the bacterial has taken up residence in my knees and every so often I have to zap them so I can walk. Did it just this morning. When glucosamine and condroition do not work for arthritis it is because the problem is bacteria. Ole Bob
Re: CSdermaseptic device
How can I find information on the godzilla? Thanks Lea Ann - Original Message - From: V vzo...@yahoo.com To: Rowena silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:34 PM Subject: Re: CSdermaseptic device Hi Rowena, Yeah I have made simalar devices that plug into the godzilla. I call it a wartziller and it has a silver wire on the tip and you dip it in CS and then apply to the spots you want to infuse with silver. you want the tip to be positive becaues that is the side that gives off the silver when the current flows. IDt works for many warts also by infusing silver into the wart with a current. Take care, V How interesting. I wonder whether a couple of bits of silver at the end of wires in a Godzilla device would do something similar. And whether it would be effective in Spider Bites!! Users claim success with mosquito and ant bites, and using it for any infection. Rowena Anyone use this device from the Klearson Co in Boulder? www.dermaseptic.com Lots of claims backed up with dbl blind studies. Found the ad in a flight magazine. TJ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGold crowns and battery effect
This is awesome! Can you tell me where to get a microamp meter? Would Radio Shack have one? What kind of person most likely would have one I could borrow -who uses them? THANKS! - Original Message - From: Peter Rebaudo reba...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:27 PM Subject: CSGold crowns and battery effect Gail Wrote: It is possible for amalgam to be hidden under a crown. I had a porcelain crown removed and replaced last year because my bio-dentist xrayed it and found amalgam left under the crown by my previous idiot dentist. I never would have known it was there If You want to know if amalgam is under your crown proceed as follows. Put the negative electrode of a microamp meter in contact with the tissue inside your mouth , not touching any teeth, the positive electrode in contact with the crown in question. if the reading is negative there is amalgam underneath. If it is positive, there is not. If You get no reading , You did something wrong. Regards Peter R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGold crowns and battery effect - residual amalgam
- Original Message - From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 3:51 AM Subject: Re: CSGold crowns and battery effect - residual amalgam Gail Wrote: It is possible for amalgam to be hidden under a crown. I had a porcelain crown removed and replaced last year because my bio-dentist xrayed it and found amalgam left under the crown by my previous idiot dentist. I never would have known it was there Yes, indeed - I got my then dentist to take a particular amalgam filling out and replace it with white stuff. After he finished, he looked at it dubiously and said, I'm sorry, the amalgam has stained your tooth. What did I know? This the same guy who assured me, uncomfortably, that amalgam had been used for X hundred years - no mention of changes to formula or anything else. I never went back to that one. Years later, my biodentist removed it, and told me that there was still amalgam in the cavity. Stained my tooth, indeed! I'd stain his tooth if I ever got the chance. Well, no, I wouldn't, but it's a pretty poor show when your health professionals will just say things which are not true. Rowena -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGold crowns and battery effect - residual amalgam
Hello Rowena, How did you feel after the biodentst did the work? Did it make an appreciable difference in your health? Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au Subject: Re: CSGold crowns and battery effect - residual amalgam Yes, indeed - I got my then dentist to take a particular amalgam filling out and replace it with white stuff. After he finished, he looked at it dubiously and said, I'm sorry, the amalgam has stained your tooth. What did I know? This the same guy who assured me, uncomfortably, that amalgam had been used for X hundred years - no mention of changes to formula or anything else. I never went back to that one. Years later, my biodentist removed it, and told me that there was still amalgam in the cavity. Stained my tooth, indeed! I'd stain his tooth if I ever got the chance. Well, no, I wouldn't, but it's a pretty poor show when your health professionals will just say things which are not true. Rowena -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hello Earnie, From a scientific perspective, I am eager to repeat the microwaved water vs. boiled water and plants experiment (because I'd rather not experiment on my own body if the consequences could be lethal :-) My point was that the proponents of microwaved food is dangerous are using an illogical argument to prove their point. I'm completely open to believing that microwaved food is dangerous. I just think it hurts a person's cause if they fail to use logic and science to make important claims. In fact, it leaves people open to riducule and if they had an important health point to make it is often overlooked because of the illogical conclusion they have used to make their point. Take a look at this thread http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/3142/ and check out the website the original poster is criticizing: http://www.relfe.com/microwave.html She might have made some important points but because of her illogical statement at the beginning, many readers stopped listening to her. Regarding your statement, so then, where did the cellular damage come from? I would have to say that unless you did a controlled study which eliminated the following possible sources for your cellular damage, you cannot logically conclude that microwaves are the cause. Some of the Sources of Free Radicals a.. Free radicals are increased by injury, stress, pollution, illness and aging* a.. Ionizing radiation (from industry, sun exposure, cosmic rays and medical x-rays)* a.. Ozone and nitrous oxide (primarily from automobile exhaust)* a.. Cigarette smoke and alcohol* a.. Unsaturated fat (may cause a strain on the natural antioxidants of the body)* a.. Many other chemicals and compounds from food, water and air* Have you ever been exposed to stress? pollution? illness? aging? the sun? medical x-rays? etc. etc. As I said before, I am very eager to do the water test because for me, even though I may not understand the exact mechanism involved or EXACTLY what is indicated if the plant dies, it will be evidence enough for me to toss my microwave. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Ernie Patai To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 5:03 PM Subject: RE: CS Hello all, It seems this debate over whether blood heated in a microwave alters its structure leading to death has been on going; Which only means that my comment would be adding to this. JI would like to just say that whom ever is in favor of not having sufficient proof, conclusive evidence that a person or persons getting transfusions from micro waved blood isn't responsible for ones death, please go on and request a personal bag of micro waved blood for your own transfusion the next time you happen to be in the hospital for something critical. I didn't think so...Why not put your theory or the so called research out there to the test. LOGIC would indicate that if water, the most basic element yet most crucial to our survival gets altered. Why then wouldn't blood? Water after all is 70% of our body's composition. I have had my blood tested, and free radical damage is present. Sure there may be environmental and job related exposure which may have contributed to my condition. BUT, my nutritionist asked me a simple question. do you use a microwave and how much? I am in impeccable good health, ( thank God ) so then, where did the cellular damage come from? Most sincerely, ernie
CSlaundry system using silver ions
Hello, I'm sending this because it makes reference to silver ions that have anti-bacterial properties. http://www.ecoquest100days.com/100daymedia.asp It is full of marketing hype but basically, what they are promoting is a unit that hooks up to your cold water line that runs to your washing machine, runs the water through a treatment system that does (?) and the claim is: Laundry Pure will revolutionize the way everyone does their laundry. You will be able to hook up a Laundry Pure unit to the cold water line going into your washer and you will never have to use detergent, hot water, or softeners again. I am an inactive dealer for EcoQuest (but I keep up my dealership because past customers keep sending me customers). I rarely keep up with what they are doing but this one caught my eye. I can't find any information on what the technology is they are going to have in this unit - what they will be doing to the water - but they do make reference to silver ions in that video clip. I went onto the internet trying to find other laundry systems (to see what kind of technology might be used) and that's when I came across the magna clean system I mentioned in an earlier post. I bought those magnets just to see what they do. The Ecoquest unit I'm guessing will run close to $700.00 so if a couple of magnetic balls does essentially the same thing I thought I'd give that a try first. I couldn't endorse a $700.00 product if a $67.00 product did the same thing. I just thought it was interesting that they mentioned silver ions and will be going to the next marketing hype meeting to try to find out what the technology is. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 I keep trying to make my house child-proof but they keep getting in anyway -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgold crowns and battery effect
Hello ode, I find it interesting that my gold does not actually touch an adjacent mercury filling. My remaining gold crown is on the upper left, furthest tooth back. I know it is somehow related to the gold crowns as my shocks used to be bilateral (but only one side at a time would be symptomatic) and now that the one gold crown has been removed it is unilateral and on the side of the gold crown. The shocks actually start in my neck right near where the number 24 appears in this picture: http://www.vh.org/adult/provider/anatomy/atlasofanatomy/plate09/02rneckmuscles.html and travel along a line to a spot that feels like it is about an inch into my skull right in the middle of the occipital bone as pictured here: http://www.ivy-rose.co.uk/Topics/Bones_CranialandFacial.htm I've researched trigeminal neuralgia and my pain does not correspond well with what they are describing. The only thing I can think is that there is some direct electrical connection to a nerve but there is no pain right near the tooth (but if they did a root canal there the nerve at the tooth site is dead). Luckily these events don't happen very often or for very long. Whenever they happen I SWEAR I'm gonna do something about it (it hurts so bad) but then it goes away and I get busy with life for a couple of months before it comes back. And BTW, the shock IS really weird. After a day or two of the shock treatments my neck is sore in that area. Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 5:13 AM Subject: Re: CSgold crowns and battery effect You could get the gold replaced with plastic or porcelain. 'Feeling' a shock is pretty weird. The battery effect is generally micro amps and millivolts resulting in slow galvanic corrosion. Could be a pinched nerve? Direct electrical connection on an nerve? Lots of those in teeth for some reason. ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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In doing research for my son's Science Fair Project (his or mine? :-) I kept coming up with websites claiming, There was a lawsuit in 1991 in Oklahoma. A woman named Norma Levitt had hip surgery, but was killed by a simple blood transfusion when a nurse warmed the blood for the transfusion in a microwave oven! Website after website claims that this proves microwaving food makes the food dangerous. One website states, Logic suggests that if heating is all there is to microwave cooking, then it doesn't matter how something is heated. Blood for transfusions is routinely warmed, but not in microwave ovens. Does it not therefore follow that microwaving cooking does something quite different? This is not a logical conclusion. How on earth do they get from Norma Levitt died following a blood transfusion using blood warmed in a microwave to therefore, microwaving blood does something to the blood other than heating it? There are many variables besides the microwaving that could have occurred and other possible conclusions that can be drawn. In the court case, it appears that the plaintiff alleged that the blood was hemolyzed by the microwaving process. Hemolyzed means that the blood cells were ruptured causing hemoglobin to leak into the plasma. ¶2 Wilkinson and his law firm (hereinafter Wilkinson) were retained by the personal representatives of the estate of Norma Levitt to pursue a medical malpractice claim. Norma Levitt died on the operating table at Hillcrest Medical Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on November 8, 1989, following successful hip replacement surgery. A nurse anesthetic gave Levitt a unit of Levitt's own blood which had been warmed in a microwave oven located in the employees' lounge.1 Wilkinson alleged the negligent introduction of this blood into Levitt's system was a direct cause of her death minutes later. The defendants argued that Levitt died from a blood clot, rather than the hemolyzed blood. Wilkinson's first petition named only Hillcrest Medical Center as defendant. The petition was amended over 15 months later, on November 8, 1991, to include twenty additional individual and corporate defendants.2 http://wyomcases.courts.state.wy.us/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?citeID=4387 The following footnote in the case is interesting: 1 Heating blood in this manner destroys the red blood cells, resulting in gross hemolysis of the blood, releasing large amounts of potassium. Excessive potassium, when introduced into the body, is often fatal. The practice of warming Intravenous (IV) fluids, other than blood, in the microwave was an accepted practice at Hillcrest Medical Center, as reflected in its written procedures. Here's another interesting PubMed abstract which indicates that the laboratory analysis of microwaved blood isn't appreciably altered by the microwaving process: The management of massive blood loss resulting from trauma or surgery necessitates rapid transfusion capability. Hypothermia secondary to shock, transfusion, and prolonged surgical procedures significantly increases morbidity and mortality in these patients. Transfusion at high flow rates frequently exceeds the warming capacity of conventional blood-warming devices, whose inherent resistance also limits the maximal flow rates. Microwave ovens are capable of blood warming, but have been associated with unacceptable hemolysis. We have investigated the possibility of using microwave energy to provide rapid in-line blood warming. Fresh blood from 10 human subjects was warmed from an average of 18 degrees C to temperatures ranging from 37 to 39 degrees C at flow rates from 250 to 500 mL/min. Laboratory analysis of free plasma hemoglobin, haptoglobin, hematocrit, hemoglobin, and electrolytes showed no difference between heated and control samples. LDH was elevated in those samples warmed repeatedly, but remained within the normal range. These data indicate the potential for further investigation utilizing properly controlled microwave energy for in-line blood and fluid warming. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist_uids=1777446dopt=Abstract The microwaved water vs. boiled water and its effects on plants experiment becomes more and more interesting to me. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 I keep trying to make my house child-proof but they keep getting in anyway
CSgold crowns and battery effect
This topic is of great importance to me as I came down with severe chronic fatigue within weeks of having two gold crowns placed in my mouth along with a host of pre-existing mercury fillings. I have also experienced SEVERE electrical shocks in my neck and back of my skull on occassion. This only started after the gold crowns were placed and I know that this is due to a battery effect (but of course my dentist does not believe this). These shocks happen about 6-10 times an hour and when one hits I am in a great deal of pain. They last for probably a fraction of a second but they really, really hurt. This will go on for 24-48 hours, even through the night, then go away. These episodes come on about once a month. I went all summer and most of this fall without an episode but had another one a couple of days ago. One of those gold crowned teeth had to be pulled. If I have another electrical shock episode I think I'll just go to my dentist and DEMAND that he pull the other one. I want to go to Mexico to have the rest of my amalgams and root canal teeth removed but as a stay at home mother we have very limited funds and even with the huge discount, a trip to Mexico would cost us money we don't have right now. Anyway, I see that I'm rambling. I remain very interested in this topic! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 5:21 AM Subject: Re: CSsilver ions vs. particles You are talking about a battery effect? I you have a gold crown, mercury 'can', but not always, slowly plate to that crown. Pretty detailed article here on gold / amalgam reactions..a bit over my head http://www.ibiblio.org/amalgam/ The electrochemical potentials in the order from most reactive (+) to least reactive (-): Zn Zn(Hg) Sn Cu(Hg) Cu Ag Hg Au +.7626 +.1406 -.3511 -.3400 -.799 -.852 -1.42 Reverse amalgam-ation, perhaps, where silver sucks mercury that's alloyed with silver out of fillings? I dunno, mercury has a pretty strong tendency to dissolve things like silver, zinc, tin, gold and lead into it at room temperatures. Never tried it with aluminum or copper. Maybe those too. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgold crowns and battery effect
After reading the article posted by ode, I searched gold, amalgam, and galvanic corrosion (as suggested by the author) and came up with this... Clinical management of galvanic current between gold and amalgam. Williamson R. Department of Oral Health Practice, University of Kentucky College of Dentistry, Lexington, USA. Placing a strip of rubber dam or similar insulator between the contacting dissimilar restorations is a diagnostic technique for relieving and evaluating painful galvanic currents. Treatment modalities vary according to severity of pain. In cases of little or no pain, nothing is done, and corrosion products are allowed to form an insulating cover over the offending restoration. For patients with severe pain that does not improve, treatment may consist of placing a composite restoration in the amalgam restoration to break the interproximal dissimilar-metal contact. For painful currents caused by occluding restorations, a coating of unfilled light-cured resin over the offending amalgam breaks the metal contact and allows corrosion product buildup. Galvanic currents can occur and cause pain, but this is generally shortlived and should not influence the dentist's choice of an appropriate restorative material. This makes me FURIOUS. Can't these people understand that if there is a galvanic current that SOMETHING is giving up electrons and don't they KNOW that it is the mercury? But no, let's make removing the amalgam the last option. Sorry, it's a hot topic with me. But at least now I have plenty to copy and take to my dentist to show him that the pain I've been in is not just in my head (although it is in my head :-) Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: CSgold crowns and battery effect This topic is of great importance to me as I came down with severe chronic fatigue within weeks of having two gold crowns placed in my mouth along with a host of pre-existing mercury fillings. I have also experienced SEVERE electrical shocks in my neck and back of my skull on occassion. This only started after the gold crowns were placed and I know that this is due to a battery effect (but of course my dentist does not believe this). These shocks happen about 6-10 times an hour and when one hits I am in a great deal of pain. They last for probably a fraction of a second but they really, really hurt. This will go on for 24-48 hours, even through the night, then go away. These episodes come on about once a month. I went all summer and most of this fall without an episode but had another one a couple of days ago. One of those gold crowned teeth had to be pulled. If I have another electrical shock episode I think I'll just go to my dentist and DEMAND that he pull the other one. I want to go to Mexico to have the rest of my amalgams and root canal teeth removed but as a stay at home mother we have very limited funds and even with the huge discount, a trip to Mexico would cost us money we don't have right now. Anyway, I see that I'm rambling. I remain very interested in this topic! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 5:21 AM Subject: Re: CSsilver ions vs. particles You are talking about a battery effect? I you have a gold crown, mercury 'can', but not always, slowly plate to that crown. Pretty detailed article here on gold / amalgam reactions..a bit over my head http://www.ibiblio.org/amalgam/ The electrochemical potentials in the order from most reactive (+) to least reactive (-): Zn Zn(Hg) Sn Cu(Hg) Cu Ag Hg Au +.7626 +.1406 -.3511 -.3400 -.799 -.852 -1.42 Reverse amalgam-ation, perhaps, where silver sucks mercury that's alloyed with silver out of fillings? I dunno, mercury has a pretty strong tendency to dissolve things like silver, zinc, tin, gold and lead into it at room temperatures. Never tried it with aluminum or copper. Maybe those too. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgold crowns and battery effect
WOW, There are a LOT of good links on this topic! http://www.a5star.co.uk/gold-amalgam.htm http://www.home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/galv.html - Original Message - From: Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: CSgold crowns and battery effect This topic is of great importance to me as I came down with severe chronic fatigue within weeks of having two gold crowns placed in my mouth along with a host of pre-existing mercury fillings. I have also experienced SEVERE electrical shocks in my neck and back of my skull on occassion. This only started after the gold crowns were placed and I know that this is due to a battery effect (but of course my dentist does not believe this). These shocks happen about 6-10 times an hour and when one hits I am in a great deal of pain. They last for probably a fraction of a second but they really, really hurt. This will go on for 24-48 hours, even through the night, then go away. These episodes come on about once a month. I went all summer and most of this fall without an episode but had another one a couple of days ago. One of those gold crowned teeth had to be pulled. If I have another electrical shock episode I think I'll just go to my dentist and DEMAND that he pull the other one. I want to go to Mexico to have the rest of my amalgams and root canal teeth removed but as a stay at home mother we have very limited funds and even with the huge discount, a trip to Mexico would cost us money we don't have right now. Anyway, I see that I'm rambling. I remain very interested in this topic! Blessings, Lea Ann -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgold crowns and battery effect re:Lea Ann
Hello Harper, Thanks for this information. I never thought that traditionally trained dentists (or students) would take out perfectly good fillings or a perfectly good gold crown. I am interested in this idea. But, I also want cavitations cleaned out, conscious IV sedation (so the work can all be done in one day at one sitting), and IV Vit C, and procedures to protect me from the mercury. I'll have to weigh the cost of a trip to Mexico with the option of getting the work done locally withough Huggin's protocol. I live near Orlando, Fl so shouldn't have a hard time finding a dental school. Lea Ann - Original Message - From: siriu...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:56 AM Subject: Re: CSgold crowns and battery effect re:Lea Ann Lea Ann do you have a dental school near you? The cost is less than a regular dentist and I found they do really good work. I went to Case to have all my amalgams taken out and crowns. This was a few years ago but it was under $2000. They threw in free bleaching M Harper In a message dated 10/29/2005 6:50:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lsav...@cfl.rr.com writes: From: Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: CSgold crowns and battery effect This topic is of great importance to me as I came down with severe chronic fatigue within weeks of having two gold crowns placed in my mouth along with a host of pre-existing mercury fillings. I have also experienced SEVERE electrical shocks in my neck and back of my skull on occassion. This only started after the gold crowns were placed and I know that this is due to a battery effect (but of course my dentist does not believe this). These shocks happen about 6-10 times an hour and when one hits I am in a great deal of pain. They last for probably a fraction of a second but they really, really hurt. This will go on for 24-48 hours, even through the night, then go away. These episodes come on about once a month. I went all summer and most of this fall without an episode but had another one a couple of days ago. One of those gold crowned teeth had to be pulled. If I have another electrical shock episode I think I'll just go to my dentist and DEMAND that he pull the other one. I want to go to Mexico to have the rest of my amalgams and root canal teeth removed but as a stay at home mother we have very limited funds and even with the huge discount, a trip to Mexico would cost us money we don't have right now. Anyway, I see that I'm rambling. I remain very interested in this topic! Blessings, Lea Ann
Re: CSgold crowns and battery effect
Hi Sol, What did you do? Did you remove the amalgam or the gold? Mine don't touch. I read one artlicle where they discussed gold crowns OVER amalgam. Perhaps there is amalgam under my gold crown? I'm almost to the point where I'm going to go into my dentist's office with some literature printed out and tell him to find an excuse for removing the gold crowned tooth that will be covered by our insurance. Or, I might just have to put a trip to Mexico on credit (I hate that) and worry about paying it off later. Hopefully, my health will be better after the mercury comes out and I'll be more inclined/able to find a part time job. (youngest is now 3 so I can work part time while he's in school if I wanted to). I'm so inclined to go to Mexico because every time I've had one or two of my mercury fillings switched out for composits I get REALLY, REALLY sick. I must be really sensitive to the mercury. If I go to Mexico I get the protection of Huggin's protocol and I get it all done and over with in one day. Lea Ann - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:26 PM Subject: Re: CSgold crowns and battery effect In my experience with galvanic shocks between amalgam fillings and a gold crown, the only time I felt the shock was when the teeth surfaces touched each other. And I never had any period when the teeth could touch without a shock. It was quite painful, and the pain echos would last a long time. My dentist, luckily had no trouble believing me. sol Lea Ann wrote: These shocks happen about 6-10 times an hour and when one hits I am in a great deal of pain. They last for probably a fraction of a second but they really, really hurt. This will go on for 24-48 hours, even through the night, then go away. These episodes come on about once a month. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDental Resources - Mike D.
Hello Mike, Have you found a local biological dentist yet? I came across this in my research: Dental Resources: Link here to connect to the Maxillofacial Center for Diagnostics Research. In order to find a dentist in your area you might consider one of the following three resources: 1) The Foundation for Toxic Free Dentistry may be able to suggest a dentist in your area. Write to: P. O. Box 608010, Orlando FL 32860-8010, Include a large self addressed envelope with 78c postage. The book Dentistry without mercury by Sam Ziff Michael F Ziff, DDS, 1995 is available for $3.95. You might wish to enquire regarding a subscription to Bio-Probe, their newsletter. 2) Dental Amalgam Mercury Syndrome (DAMS), Inc., 6025 Osuna Blvd NE, Suite B, Albuquerque, NM 87109 welcomes enquiries from the public. Phone 800-311-6265 505-888-0111, Fax 505-888-4554. It has 70 chapters and publishes a newsletter. Include $ 7.00 for a full information packet. 3) The Holistic Dental Association responds to enquiries from the public in the USA and Canada. P. O. Box 5007, Durango, CO 81301. Fax 970-259-1091. For information please enclose a Self addressed envelope with $2.50. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 I keep trying to make my house child-proof but they keep getting in anyway -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSComment, was Re: CSQuestion for Joy
Hello sol and thanks for the suggestion (as well as Mike D. and ode) I think I will have him help me boil/microwave the water AND water the plants (I want him to do as much as possible) however, I'll have him leave the room and I'll mark the water containers and plants with codes so he doesn't know which is which - he'll just have to water the marked plant with the identicaly marked water container. I will also use glass containers to boil the water in as Mike suggested. MUCH THANKS everyone for your ideas and input. I'm very excited to do this experiment. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: CSComment, was Re: CSQuestion for Joy If he is going to do if for a science exhibit, he really should use a blind test, as Ode suggested. Perhaps he could code the plants and the water, and have you do the watering, not knowing which is which. Soon as I get hold of two identical plants, and figure out how to code them, I'll be doing that--having my husband water them. Otherwise, intent/belief will affect the results. sol Lea Ann wrote: Hello Joy, Can you tell me where you got the directions for the experiment? My 10 year old son is going to do this for his Science Fair Experiment. I'd love to get a copy of the directions. Thanks in advance. Lea Ann -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSJoy - Microwaving - Science Fair Project?
Hi Joy, Thanks a lot for your input. I am very excited to do this project and will keep everyone informed! It's GREAT to hear that it only took two weeks. This means we can repeat the process quite a few times if necessary! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Joy smjli...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 12:15 PM Subject: Re: CSJoy - Microwaving - Science Fair Project? Hi Lea Ann - the microwave watered plants all died within two weeks, for me. I used glass containers because less chance of any other contaminants, such as leaching from the plastic. Mike's suggestion of using glass pan for boiling was a good one, too. My cookware is glass. It also limits the variables if both waters are cooked in glass containers. I think I did use plastic in the microwave, but glass sounds a better plan. I used quart jars, with just two small plants I had plenty water for the two weeks I needed it. If you are going to use more plants, you might want to use a quart jar of each kind of water for each separate plant? Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSJoy - Microwaving - Science Fair Project?
Hi Joy, This would be an AWESOME Science Fair Project for my 10 year old. I am SO excited because we haven't chosen a project yet and this one seems just perfect! All of the websites people on this list have referenced can now be used as source material! It is due January 17th so we have at least 10 weeks to do the experiment. Can you tell me how long it took to see one plant showing signs of suffering? We wouldn't have to wait until they actually died. I was thinking about doing the experiment with several pairs of different kinds of plants. May I ask a couple of questions? 1) Why does the water go into Glass containers? 2) What kind of glass container did you use? (I'm thinking I'll have to buy something to be big enough) Thanks in advance! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Joy smjli...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: Re: CSMICROWAVING Yes. You can prove this for yourself, someone suggested the following experiment to me some years back. Buy two small houseplants, pot in identical medium/pots. Label one M for microwave. Boil some water on the stove, and equal amount in the microwave, put in sterile covered glass container after cooled, the microwaved one labeled as such. Let each cool and use to water the plants for the next several weeks. Treat the two plants exactly the same in the amount of water you use for each, where they sit, how much sun they get. Only difference will be in which water you use. I couldn't believe the results, so dramatic. Tried it twice more with identical reactions. The microwaved water killed the plant being watered with it each time. Joy Shenanigans wrote: Does it change the molecular properties of water? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMicrowaves - opposite viewpoint
From the following website: http://rabi.phys.virginia.edu/HTW/microwave_ovens.html Don't microwaves change the molecular structure and composition of food, by ejecting some electrons from atoms and forming cancer-causing free radicals? If I should stand away from a microwave to avoid possible leakage, why would I eat microwaved food? Microwaves don't affect the molecular structure of the food, except through the thermal effects we associate with normal cooking (e.g., denaturing of proteins with heat and caramelizing of sugars). That's because, like all electromagnetic waves, microwaves are emitted and absorbed as particles called photons. The energy in a microwave photon is so tiny that it can't cause any chemical rearrangement in a molecule. Instead, it can only add a tiny amount of heat to a water molecule. During the microwave cooking process, microwave photons stream into the food and heat it up. But millions of them would have to work together in order to cause non-thermal chemical changes in the food molecules and they don't normally do that. The photons can only work together if there is a conducting material, such as a metal wire, inside the oven. In that case, the photons can accelerate mobile electric charges along the conducting paths and create sparks. Such sparks can cause chemical damage, but nothing worse than the chemical damage caused by scorching food with a flame or broiler. Even if your microwave is full of sparks for some reason, I doubt that the food will be any worse for you than it would be if you cooked it over an open flame or barbecue. What's wrong with his assesment? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 I keep trying to make my house child-proof but they keep getting in anyway
CSQuestion for Joy
Hello Joy, Can you tell me where you got the directions for the experiment? My 10 year old son is going to do this for his Science Fair Experiment. I'd love to get a copy of the directions. Thanks in advance. Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Joy smjli...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:29 PM Subject: Re: CSplant test, was, Re: CSMICROWAVING You do need to cool the water, of course. I did this three times, comparing it with water boiled on a stove. Took less than two weeks for the plant being watered with microwaved water died, each time. I too thought there could have been other causes, which was why I tried it three times. It really blew me away. I don't know if just warming the water would make a difference or not - the directions on the experiment given to me said to bring it to a boil, so that is what I did. Joy sol wrote: I'll try this. How long is it supposed to take to kill the plant? If the period is too long, the plant could have died of other causes. And I presume one lets the microwaved water cool before applying to the plant soil, otherwise, watering any plant with hot water will kill it. Do I heat the water to boiling? Or is any period of microwaving, even just to warming supposed to change the water enough to kill the plant? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy
Hi Susie, How did you learn this information? Do you think it would be possible to learn how to do Vitamin C IV therapy for yourself? Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Shenanigans shenaniganshar...@direcway.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:34 AM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy You can make your own. Just remember that l level teaspoon of salt in a pint of water =0.9% saline, the base for many IV fluids. You can boil this in the microwave. I would put another jar,say a small babyfood jar filled with water in the microwave too, boil both l0 minutes. What ever evaporates from the jar with the salt won't matter, or you can put some from the babyfood jar over into it. When the water is mostly cool, pour a small amount, maybe l/4 cup, of the saline water into the sterilized babyfood jar. Add the amount of C you want, let it dissolve. Now you have sterile IV fluid with C. Susie - Original Message - From: hotmail angelznest angelzn...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: gmail angelznest angelzn...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:55 AM Subject: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy
How do you get the bag, the line, the hep-lock (sp?). How do you learn how to put in the needle? etc. I was thinking about asking a friend of mine who is a paramedic and I have a sister-in-law who is a nurse but I'm afraid of the, what kind of crazy idea is that? from them because they are medical model people. Is it legal to give yourself (or a family member) an IV? Thanks in advance... Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Shenanigans shenaniganshar...@direcway.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:41 PM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy Linus Pauling. Very easy to do. He frequently used up to l00 grams a day, IV. Susie - Original Message - From: Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy Hi Susie, How did you learn this information? Do you think it would be possible to learn how to do Vitamin C IV therapy for yourself? Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Shenanigans shenaniganshar...@direcway.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:34 AM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy You can make your own. Just remember that l level teaspoon of salt in a pint of water =0.9% saline, the base for many IV fluids. You can boil this in the microwave. I would put another jar,say a small babyfood jar filled with water in the microwave too, boil both l0 minutes. What ever evaporates from the jar with the salt won't matter, or you can put some from the babyfood jar over into it. When the water is mostly cool, pour a small amount, maybe l/4 cup, of the saline water into the sterilized babyfood jar. Add the amount of C you want, let it dissolve. Now you have sterile IV fluid with C. Susie - Original Message - From: hotmail angelznest angelzn...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: gmail angelznest angelzn...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:55 AM Subject: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmastercleanse .. masterclea...@yahoogroups.com
Hello Faith, Here is the link: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mastercleanse/ I joined this group and find it helpful. Here is another source for LOTS of information and support for anyone considering doing a master cleanse. http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/bowel/master_cleanse.asp And the curezone active forum on the Master Cleanse: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=478t=60485 (it is kind of hard to find the active forum as there are so many archived forums!) Hope this is helpful! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Faith Saint Francis faithstfran...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:02 PM Subject: CSmastercleanse .. masterclea...@yahoogroups.com Hi CS Group! For once, I forgot to paste the e-mail address of the person who sent us the message: There is also a Yahoo Group masterclea...@yahoogroups.com that has approx. 1400 people in it. They rave about this diet, and say not only does it work, but they have great amounts of energy and clarity too. I have tried to find it on my browser, but I can't get through. Is that so, or is there some mistake in the URL? Please help, Thanks Faith -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS5 Second Rule
Marshal this is pricelessly funny! I have 3 young boys (ages 3, 7 and 10) With my first I used the 5 second rule, with my second I used the 5 minute rule, with my youngest I use the, if there's no visible mold or particles that can't easily be flicked off it's o.k. rule... LOL Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:41 AM Subject: CS5 Second Rule The restraurants around here have what they call the 5 second rule. That is, anything dropped on the floor is ok to put back on the plate if it is on the floor for less than 5 seconds. Last night Myth Busters tested that and found this to be total hogwash, there was no difference in the huge amount of bacteria and molds picked up when food is dropped on the floor between 2 seconds and 6 seconds. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBird flu - alternative viewpoint
Hello Terry, This article on Mercola's input is interesting to me because it indicates that thimerisol was indeed outlawed (I thought it had been but then I wasn't sure if it was just childhood vaccines or all vaccines). I still can't get over the poster at my local grocery store with the disclaimer that people who have allergies to thimerosol should not take the shot. Interesting articles. I completely agree with newstarget that we must assume full responsibility for prevention and if necessary treatment. I have NO trust in doctors. I have been let down by them time and again for both my own health and the health of my children. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:02 AM Subject: CSBird flu - alternative viewpoint Here are some interesting sites about bird flu - alternative viewpoint: http://www.threeworldwars.com/news/bird-flu.htm http://www.newstarget.com/006195.html Mercola's input: http://www.newstarget.com/012187.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNewbie here!
Hello Rob, The two units that I see recommended most frequently (and equally recommended) are: 1) The Silver Gen SG6: http://www.silvergen.com/shop/index.php?shop=1cart=24412cat=1noCookiePassThrough=YPHPSESSID=bd902235b6d51175d2d589c66d26dd63 And 2) The Silver Puppy : http://www.silverpuppy.com/page1b.html I have a Silver Gen SG6 and couldn't be happier - I've heard enough reports on both of these machines to know that you could not go wrong with either one. I make crystal clear colloidal silver batch after batch without fail and without fuss. My being a non-technical type, I like it that the work has been done for me by someone with MUCH more knowledge than I have. Best of luck to you in your quest for health! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Rob Payne robinke...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 6:15 PM Subject: CSNewbie here! Hi everyone here on the list I live in ireland,and wish to make my own CS, my preference is to buy a basic cs making device,anyone know of a reputable make ?Not expensive but does the job. I have had hep c for 25 years,did the drug treatment ,which failed to maintain a sustained clearance.Currently I am doing very well on chinese herbs and attensind workshops with a chinese qigong master. I am happy to offer my experiences with hep c and what I have found effective so far! Good to be here ,kind regards from Rob. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRecipe for Destruction
What is NYT? The New York Times? Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:55 AM Subject: Re: CSRecipe for Destruction For those who have trouble using Google, here is a non-NYT URL: http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1017-23.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNYT = New York Times
Hi Johnathan, I got my answer when I went to the link you posted - thanks for the link... Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:55 AM Subject: Re: CSRecipe for Destruction For those who have trouble using Google, here is a non-NYT URL: http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1017-23.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFlu Shots and Mercury
I was at my local grocery store and read the poster advertising Flu Shots. Among other restrictions, the poster said that people who have allergies to thimerisol should not take the shot. ALLERGIES? to thimerisol??? Isn't thimerisol/mercury a POISON??? I thought thimerisol as a preservative was banned? Wouldn't it be likely to contribute to Alzheimers to give senior citizens shots with mercury in them? I also saw a whole line of people waiting to get their shots on another day... my heart just broke for these people poisoning their bodies while thinking they were doing something good. Oh, and my health food store is right next to the grocery - the owner told me that last year 3 people fainted from waiting outside in the heat in line to get their flu shot. Sigh. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:40 PM Subject: Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C Max Sanders wrote: Do most of you folk NOT take the flu vaccine due to your healthy distrust of poison in the needles, or the more positive take that Silver and other methods will protect? I am interested in the various points of view. I avoid the vaccinations for both reasons. Interestingly when I got cut by a piece of metal the doctor wanted me to get a tetanus vaccination. I researched it and found that the likelihood of dieing from the vaccine was about 20 times higher than dieing from tetanus if I don't take the vaccine, so I declined. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLemon and Garlic Tonic
O.K. maybe if I cut it down to just one question - someone will answer... Do you blend the entire lemon - skin and all? Thanks Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:56 PM Subject: CSLemon and Garlic Tonic Hello, I have a few questions about the Lemon and Garlic tonic... 1) It's a WHOLE lemon - seeds, skin, pith, and all? 2) Will you need to add any water to get it to blend? 3) Nine lemons and nine cloves of garlic one each per day over the 9 days? 4) Why stop at the end of 9 days? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 I keep trying to make my house child-proof but they keep getting in anyway -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLemon and Garlic Tonic
Thank you very much Faith for your detailed reply. (sorry I got impatient - will you forgive me?) I am going to try this. I don't have pain issues but as a general health tonic this seems like a good idea to do once in a while! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Faith Saint Francis faithstfran...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:47 PM Subject: Re: CSLemon and Garlic Tonic Respected Lea Ann, Excuse us for late reply, we had your message separated, and ready to answer. It is on the List now. Kind Regards, Faith From: Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLemon and Garlic Tonic Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:20:31 -0400 O.K. maybe if I cut it down to just one question - someone will answer... Do you blend the entire lemon - skin and all? Thanks Lea Ann -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLemon and Garlic Tonic
Hello, I have a few questions about the Lemon and Garlic tonic... 1) It's a WHOLE lemon - seeds, skin, pith, and all? 2) Will you need to add any water to get it to blend? 3) Nine lemons and nine cloves of garlic one each per day over the 9 days? 4) Why stop at the end of 9 days? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 I keep trying to make my house child-proof but they keep getting in anyway -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: cancer/herbs/raw foods
Hello Jill, Here's a good book on Raw Food: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0970481934/104-6091253-5083167?v=glance Here's a good Yahoo Group on the subject: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfood/messages Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: grace1...@aol.com Subject: spam: CSRe: cancer/herbs/raw foods I don't know how to do dinner. Any guesses from anyone? . Jill
Re: CSLemon and Garlic Tonic
Just thought I'd ask again... - Original Message - From: Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:56 PM Subject: CSLemon and Garlic Tonic Hello, I have a few questions about the Lemon and Garlic tonic... 1) It's a WHOLE lemon - seeds, skin, pith, and all? 2) Will you need to add any water to get it to blend? 3) Nine lemons and nine cloves of garlic one each per day over the 9 days? 4) Why stop at the end of 9 days? Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 I keep trying to make my house child-proof but they keep getting in anyway -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAmalgam removal...
Hello Jonathan, I think that how you react to regular removal proceedures may depend on your body burden of mercury. I haven't been tested but I strongly suspect that I am mercury toxic. I have been having a few amalgams replaced here and there by a regular dentist and the only precaution he can use is a rubber dam. Every time I have an amalgam removed I am nearly bedridden for two months. I sure wish that I could get IV vitamin C during and after the proceedure as well as have a separate air supply - those are things that the biological dentists use in their protocol. I don't have too many amalgams left. I've looked into going to Tijuana, Mexico but keep putting it off. I just procrastinate until I forget how bad the last round made me feel then go back to my regular dentist and do it again... Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 I keep trying to make my house child-proof but they keep getting in anyway - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: CSAmalgam removal... I had all mine removed by a dentist here in Japan. I was aware of the calls for special precautions but disregarded these. They seemed exaggerated to me, after having amalgams for something like 30 years. (They are durable, that is for sure.) I did not suffer any ill effects that I could discern, but have noticed health improvements since having the amalgams replaced. The composites are of course much less unsightly. From what I have seen, the amalgam removal specialists charge very high fees. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMercury Detox Protocol
Hello Ken and all... I have this book: http://www.noamalgam.com/ it is VERY good and the author is a regular poster answering people's questions on this Yahoo Group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/ his name is Andrew Hall Cutler. He has a Very Thorough mercury detox protocol and he goes into great detail about what it takes to get Mercury out of your brain as opposed to just getting it out of your body. Apparently, ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid) crosses the blood brain barrier to get the mercury out. An important part of his protocol is the timing of the doses. He has a several days on, several days off protocol and the timing of the doses is CRITICAL - meaning you have to take your ALA every 4 hours including getting up in the middle of the night to take your dose. He uses DMPS for mercury chelation and does not recommend chlorella or Cilantro. About EDTA, in his book he states, EDTA is an intravenous chelating agent for lead. It is not very selective and superseded for practical purposes by DMSA. EDTA is used by alternative physicians to treat coronary artery disease, intermittent claudication, and peripheral neuropathy with some success. It is not generally helpful for chronic fatigue and other mercury related symptom complexes. Physicians familiar with EDTA may not be aware that it is not the medication of choice to treat lead or mercury intoxication at present. Regarding DMPS he states, DMPS is a chelating agent for mercury and arsenic. Currently investigational in the US. DMPS is a water soluble dimercapto chelating agent that stays outside the cells. It mops up mercury and suppresses symptoms very well. Large doses (e.g. 3 mg/kg IV) have been associated with risks of liver damage, neutropenia, and other serious adverse reactions. Deaths may also have occurred. There are no statistics but best estimates are that the risk may be as high as 17% per patient undergoing monthly DMPS therapy by injection. Lower intravenous doses appear to be safer, but not safe. Intramuscular administration appears to be associated with more sever side effects and a greater risk of adverse reactions. It is also painful. If yeast or fungus infection occurs or progresses during therapy, suspect neutropenia. Agranulocytosis can occur. When used properly by oral administration every 8 hours DMPS if fairly safe and works very well. Proper use is described in the text. Orally administered DMPS relieves symptoms more promptly and completely than DMSA for the duration of therapy despite the fact that no more mercury is excreted. It is often tolerated by people who do not tolerate DMSA, or has a similar side effect at a reduced level that may permit therapy. DMPS increases the excretion of mercury in the urine but not in the feces. It also increases the excretion of copper and other essential elements in the urine, but this does not significantly affect the body's balance since these are primarily excreted in the feces. I have to run but sometime tomorrow I'll post what he says about ALA (Lipoic Acid), Chlorella and Cilantro if anyone wants me to. I HIGHLY recommend: 1) his book and 2) the Yahoo Group I listed links to. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 I keep trying to make my house child-proof but they keep getting in anyway - Original Message - From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:54 PM Subject: Re: CSMercury toxification cure? I think we discussed this before, folks. The cilantro cure if I remember correctly, does not actually remove mercury from the body altogether. The study, I believe, said that it was able to move the mercury from the brain to less dangerous locations, however. I wish I had the information again. I could probably find it if I look on the 'net again. Anyway, if one is in serious need of mercury removal, EDTA treatment will do it. However, the highest amount of mercury removed involves between 10-20 treatments of something like 3-4 hours hooked up to an IV with the EDTA solution. There might be better ways but that is the traditional one. -Ken Bagwell -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSmicroelectricitygermkiller
Hello, May I ask if there is a difference between the devices you are discussing in your yahoo group and this zapper? http://www.worldwithoutparasites.org/ Thanks in advance for your reply! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: CSTooth infection Theresa said, My mother has to have some bad teeth removed in her lower jaw and has an imbedded infection in her jaw that has spread so far it's even affecting her sinuses. I doubt that CS will be enough at this point. Were I you, I would look into the very simple but highly effective devices described on: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ With the use of a single 6-volt lantern battery and a piece of wire, I and a lot of other folks have experienced amazing success fighting and resolving various local infections. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVitamin C Therapy
Hello, Someone posted to this list a while back the link to a website that had information on how you could force a doctor to give you IV vitamin C therapy by asking the right questions and asking the doctor to put their answer in your chart. I thought I saved that link but now cannot find it. I hope the original poster reads this... or does anyone else have the link? MUCH Thanks in advance if someone can come up with that link. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin C Therapy
YES!!! That was IT!!! THANKS!!! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: Re: CSVitamin C Therapy Hi. It might be the doctoryourself.com site. pj --- Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Hello, Someone posted to this list a while back the link to a website that had information on how you could force a doctor to give you IV vitamin C therapy by asking the right questions and asking the doctor to put their answer in your chart. I thought I saved that link but now cannot find it. I hope the original poster reads this... or does anyone else have the link? MUCH Thanks in advance if someone can come up with that link. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin C Therapy
O.K. now I have another question. Can anyone find IN this website the link to how you force a doctor to give you IV Vitamin C therapy if you need it? Feeling like a poor researcher but I can't find it - tried googling the site but still couldn't find it. I will be really grateful if someone find it! :-) Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:50 PM Subject: Re: CSVitamin C Therapy YES!!! That was IT!!! THANKS!!! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: Re: CSVitamin C Therapy Hi. It might be the doctoryourself.com site. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFourd It... Vitamin C Therapy
I found it! Would you believe I found it by going through the Hepitis C link?! Here it is for anyone who might be interested: http://www.doctoryourself.com/strategies.html Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:02 PM Subject: Re: CSVitamin C Therapy O.K. now I have another question. Can anyone find IN this website the link to how you force a doctor to give you IV Vitamin C therapy if you need it? Feeling like a poor researcher but I can't find it - tried googling the site but still couldn't find it. I will be really grateful if someone find it! :-) Blessings, Lea Ann -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVit A overdose
Ah, wouldn't it be the refrigerated section? :-) Lea Ann - Original Message - From: V vzo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSVit A overdose Hi Jim, Why the organic section of course. Take care, V What section of the supermarket has Polar Bear liver?. Jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSKeyboard Loggers Hoax?
Here, Here! Well said. Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net Subject: Re: CSKeyboard Loggers Hoax? Anyone of the 'masses' who believes that thier tripe is worth logging and examining has an over inflated sense of self importance. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS as Hair color?
Hi sol, I'm up for it! - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: Re: CSCS as Hair color? Let's try it! sol Lea Ann wrote: Hello Ode, I wonder if CS would color my grey hairs? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSunsubscribe\
When I was a computer newbie I wish I could have been directed to a web page expalining things like how to create e-mail folders. Now, I have a different Email folder for every Email list I belong to (or I group them according to subjects). But back then, I didn't even know what the term Email folder meant. It's a learning curve. Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:56 AM Subject: Re: CSunsubscribe\ I think we have a bunch of people who have joined the list that forgot how to read first! Marshall Lisa Walker wrote: I would like that too please. I get every single post as an email and I don't know how to stop it and it's filling up my inbox. Please unsubscribe me from the list.Thanks! j-sutterfield j-sutterfi...@prodigy.net wrote: Please, PLEASE, unsubscribe me from this list! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Lisa Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
CSKeyboard Loggers Hoax?
According to Snopes, this is a hoax: http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/dellbug.asp For a techie it should be pretty easy to get ahold of an actual Dell 600m laptop and find out if it is true. Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:53 AM Subject: CSNew computers have keyboard loggers in them GOVERNMENT AND COMPUTER MANUFACTURERS CAUGHT INSTALLING HARD-WIRED KEYSTROKE LOGGERS INTO ALL NEW LAPTOP COMPUTERS! Devices capture everything you ever type, then can send it via your ethernet card to the Dept. of Homeland Security without your knowledge, consent or a search warrant each time you log onto the internet! Freedom Of Information Act Requests For Explanation From DHS, refused. http://www.halturnershow.com/KeystrokeLoggersInAllNewComputers.html I guess I won't be getting any new computers. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
