Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
agbagb wrote: > I'll reboot anyway and see if it helps - it's true that I don't so often > reboot the laptop that LMS sits on when I'm in Paris ... > > Anyone know of a non-reboot way to force local system time to be > "perfect"? > > But thanks for all the work on this, Stuart! > > Gary To somewhat answer my own question. It's in fact easy to force a time sync in Windows via the option in Settings. But I've discovered that Win only syncs time of its own volition once very seven days - so some drift is evidently possible. There are various little programs out there that say they will enable sync every X hours / days to some fancy Atomic Clock - but they mostly seem rather old, and a couple that I've just tried don't persuade me that they work any better than the Win internal system. Oh well.. LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
expectingtofly wrote: > Actually, I might have changed my mind on this! It may be a particular > problem on the 9600 non UK streams that means that the calculation is > slightly wrong. This may be a bug. I'll reboot anyway and see if it helps - it's true that I don't so often reboot the laptop that LMS sits on when I'm in Paris ... Anyone know of a non-reboot way to force local system time to be "perfect"? But thanks for all the work on this, Stuart! Gary LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
expectingtofly wrote: > Yes, BBC Sounds logs an awful lot when debug level is on. That should > be plenty for me to look at now, thanks, so its fine to put it back to > 'warn' level before it brings your server to a halt! > > Thanks There would be a thing - how to debug the debug option freezing LMS! Anyway, no dog is too old to learn a new trick - I never knew SHIFT-CONTROL-END selects everything from the cursor point to the end of the text in Notepad! LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
agbagb wrote: > I've uploaded to Stuart's Dropbox about 10 mins of Debug Internet Radio > Log for Sounds from today - stream is R4x either side of 1400hr Paris > time. > > The audible "glitch" was 14.00.04 to 14.00.09 - but I'm not sure my > timing (from my smartwatch taking its system time from the laptop > running LMS...) is 100% accurate. Just after the hour, anyway. > > For some reason I can't attach the debug file to this message, either as > a .txt file or a .zip . Too big maybe? Hmmm Heavens - these debug files are long! Here's a .zip version of 5 minutes either side of the glitch. +---+ |Filename: Sounds Glitch - 5 minutes.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37327| +---+ LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
I've uploaded to Stuart's Dropbox about 10 mins of Debug Internet Radio Log for Sounds from today - stream is R4x eitherside of 1400hr Paris time. The audible "glitch" was 14.00.04 to 14.00.09 - but I'm not sure my timing (from my smartwatch taking its system time from the laptop running LMS...) is 100% accurate. Just after the hour, anyway. For some reason I can't attach the debug file to this message, either as a .txt file or a .zip . Too big maybe? Hmmm LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
expectingtofly wrote: > Have you truncated the log by any chance? unfortunately that log is > only about 20 seconds worth and doesn't cover the period we are > interested in. > > Please can you have a go at uploading the same log again up into this > drop box folder https://www.dropbox.com/request/hSF1mrm1N7i67RSrz2Jq > > Many thanks Apologies Stuart - I did truncate the overall log, and thought I'd got the culprit - but I was under the influence of a glass or two of the wet stuff... I'll do a 5 minute log later today, and upload it as you suggest. Gary LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
I'm afraid that the time stamps have me a tad baffled - but within this Debug Log is a very distinct "glitch". It's a cpature of about 4 minutes - in "my" time (here in Paris, on my LMS) it seemed to "jump" about 7 seconds after the hour. +---+ |Filename: Log Sounds 20.30.08.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37324| +---+ LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
expectingtofly wrote: > What would be most useful is if you could turn on debug logging for the > BBC Sounds plugin just for 2 or 3 minutes covering the time just before > programme ends and the next programme starts. Then I should be able to > see where the delay is in the streaming when the new programme starts. > > The debug logging is very verbose, so it only needs to be turned on for > a couple of minutes. Thanks Will do, tomorrow. LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
expectingtofly wrote: > Ok, Thanks for checking. I'll have a look to see if I can try and > recreate the problem and see if I can do anything to address it. Thanks Stuart! I may tomorrow to be able to do a live audio capture of the "effect" too, which may help in pinning it down. LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
expectingtofly wrote: > Yes, that does sound like the the stream ending and restarting for the > next programme (its usually a few seconds before the actual audio ends > for the programme.) It should be seamless, but there sometimes can be > a delay. As mentioned, I've noticed it a couple of times on my setup > that but it is a glitch for me sometimes but not a long pause. Your > server should usually do it all quickly enough after ending of one > programme and the start of another. > > Just a thought, you don't by chance have crossfade turned on in the > settings? I should probably disable crossfade for BBC Sounds in the > plugin. I've got, afaik, the Default Crossfade settings, like so: +---+ |Filename: Screenshot 2022-02-23 185356.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37305| +---+ LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
I've just taken a look at the Internet Radio Log, and see something that looks odd to me (though the timings look even odder..). What's this telling us? [22-02-19 07:55:40.1618] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::new (196) Live stream to old after pause, stopping the continuation. [22-02-19 07:55:40.1652] Slim::Player::Song::open (491) Warning: stream failed to open [sounds://_LIVE_bbc_radio_three]. [22-02-20 08:16:18.0238] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::new (196) Live stream to old after pause, stopping the continuation. [22-02-20 08:16:18.0290] Slim::Player::Song::open (491) Warning: stream failed to open [sounds://_LIVE_bbc_radio_three]. [22-02-20 12:13:02.9459] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__ (1002) Retrying of https://as-dash-ww-live.akamaized.net/pool_904/live/ww/bbc_radio_fourfm/bbc_radio_fourfm.isml/dash/bbc_radio_fourfm-audio=96000-257086810.m4s [22-02-20 20:35:49.7577] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__ (1002) Retrying of https://as-dash-ww-live.akamaized.net/pool_904/live/ww/bbc_radio_three/bbc_radio_three.isml/dash/bbc_radio_three-audio=96000-257091522.m4s [22-02-20 20:36:01.8465] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__ (1002) Retrying of https://as-dash-ww-live.akamaized.net/pool_904/live/ww/bbc_radio_three/bbc_radio_three.isml/dash/bbc_radio_three-audio=96000-257091522.m4s [22-02-21 07:11:34.1856] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::new (196) Live stream to old after pause, stopping the continuation. [22-02-21 07:11:34.1895] Slim::Player::Song::open (491) Warning: stream failed to open [sounds://_LIVE_bbc_radio_three]. LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
It's surprisingly tricky to explain clearly! Let's say I'm listening to a 45min R3 live music stream, and that stream is due to end at 7.30 BBC time, with a switch to the continuity chap introducing the next concert. Now, for whatever reason, there *is* some delay in the system, at one end or another - typically that concert will for me be running a minute or two late (depending on how long I've been continuously listening to R3 during the day). So, for me, the music will end at, say, 7.32 my time and move onto to next program. BUT, at exactly 7.30 BBC time, my stream stops for a tiny amount of time, before recommencing (with no *program* gap at all) and running until 7.32. It's hardly the end of the world, but because it sometimes spoils the final climax, or quiet resolution, or judders the denoument of a play, it's really quite annoying. I should add that I have a sense that this has started happening quite recently - last few months - as the rest of the family have started commenting on it, and noticing that it happens on the hour or half or quarter hour "real" time, rather than my local program time LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
And, just to be clear, I'm getting something like: "And so I, Hercule Poirot, declare that the murderer i [slight gap] s Colonel Grey!" So, there's no missing audio, just a strange pause (and no, it's not the acting!). LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
bpa wrote: > Buffering would make no difference as chunks are 6 secs long(or maybe 3 > can;t rememeber), so the issues "feels" like it is a problem to do last > chunk (probably less than 6 secs long), not being noted as being played > (somehow end of song is a factor) and so it is being replayed. As it is > a factional chunk - it may not happen for every long problem so it'll be > hard to test. > > For completeness - what player ? (just in case transcoding is part of > the mix) I think it's just on the Touches - but I'm not sure I'd notice on the Radios if it was happening, as I tend to listen to Radios moving about, doing chores etc etc. The Touches, I sit and listen at length. LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
Hope I can describe this well enough - and I don't see anything specifically about it in the github page So, I usually listen to the Beeb live rather then on demand. And I listen to a lot of the longer programs - plays on R4 and R4x, and music on R3. What I'm finding is that, at the real-time end of a stream (often on the hour or half-hour) I'm getting a slight pause / stutter in what I'm listening to, that then takes up at the same spot half a second or so later. I'm guessing that there's some kind of conflcit between the DASH stream's interaction with LMS (or a player) and the old-fashioned LMS world buffer? That Sounds is "marking" the real time program/stream change, but that the buffer "says", OK, but let me just finish the last stream for where I thought I was.. If that makes sense! Anyway, it's rather annoying! Especially for classical music, it means that there's a little interruption in the the last bar of the piece being performed, often rather spoiling the whole thing! Is there some kind of fix for this in my assorted settings? I supspect that, in the past, I've lengthened buffer times, a "fix" which is not longer needed for Sounds and its DASH stream. LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously
Redrum wrote: > because you like hearing "will you please turn that down!"? :eek: I'm sure I've told this story, here, before. A good few years ago, we moved into our wickedly costly, elaborate, restored second home in a little French southern village. What with one thing and another I could not get the Squeeze system to work (nor the hot water, nor the 2nd floor heating). After a very frustrating morning I decided to chill out, and head 400m to our local café for a light lunch, a chill, and - yes - a glass or two of something wet. After an hour and half or so, I walked back home, to renew techno-battle. Just in the little square before our house, I started to hear extraordinarily thumping music, rattling the very cobbles. Our (very good) hunting, shooting neighbor game me some very old-fashioned looks as I passed his house. Yes, once I'd left home, the whole LMS universe had kicked in, full volume, multiple tracks - Fiona Apple downstairs, Beethoven upstairs, Zepp in the garage, John Le Carré in the bedroom. What fun LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115927 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously
slartibartfast wrote: > I even tried using an IR remote in the hope of triggering all players > at the same time [emoji1787]. Hmmm - why wouldn't that work? Cue up, say 4 Radios - more or less alongside each other - ready to start 4 separate streams, one for each CD. Point remote. Hit Play. Move Radios round the room. After all, we've just had another thread about trying to *prevent* one remote starting multiple players... I suppose someone should suggest a variant of how it was intended to be done in the first place. Four separate CD players; four folks stationed at the four Play buttons; Ah-one, Ah-two, Ah-one-two-three-four.. Or, four forum members, each with one CD - on a Zoom call! You could surely drum up an audience too. LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115927 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
expectingtofly wrote: > Hopefully the BBC Sounds wiki will be of use here. I've documented how > you can navigate around live programmes on BBC sounds using the LMS > controls : > https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_BBC_Sounds_Plugin/wiki#live-radio Oh - extremely clear and useful! In the vastness of information and debate, I'd somehow missed the existence of that link. However good my mental map of the SB universe may be, there's always gaps in it, and new tricks to learn (plus spots to change, eggs to suck etc etc.). Thanks. LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
Incidentally, if I do hit Pause (rather then Mute) but then want the stream to pick up in real time rather than at the paused time, what's the button tactic to do that? Easy from LMS, but from the remote? Is it Play, rather then (Un)Pause? Or hit the (pre-programmed) numbered preset button? LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
bpa wrote: > And that is the main reason why you paused the stream. People don't > usually pause the mid morning chat program. snip I of course always try to make a disciplined choice (!) between Pause and Mute when I need to quiet the audio for some reason or another. Others in the household - who have somehow acquired button privileges - press buttons rather at random, so a restart maybe one thing, maybe another... Cheers, LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
bpa wrote: > I don't know what happens with Live stream with current BBC Sounds > interface but you're thinking the wrong way. > In practice, since the program has ended, it is available in Listen > Again (new BBC API means no big delay between live finishing and > availability in "Play again") and so I start playing program from > "Listen Again" from when I paused the program. Oh sure, that's what I would usually do if I was especially interested in the particular program in its entirety. But what I hadn't though of was that - as you pointed out - this isn't an LMS buffering issue at all really, but a feature of how the streams work from sourrce these days. LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
bpa wrote: > It was available in BBCiPlayer plugin for a few years years before > Sounds. > > The stream is not actually buffered. With HLS/DASH live stream - the > chunks are time stamped. > When you paused the stream, the plugin remembered the time code of the > chunk at pause and then at restart, plugin requests the chunk from the > BBC starting from the remembered (or any specific) time stamp. Interesting - you learn something every day! What do you suppose would have happened if I had un-paused the Touch *after* the live stream had ended? For me, I think that would be the more usual scenario - and I'm guessing that in those circs I'd only get the LMS / Touch buffer contents and *not* the now-not-live stream? LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
bpa wrote: > I think you have benefited from the DASH streaming tech. > > Chunked HTTP send audio in lots of small (e.g.6 secs) - there are two > main standard HLS and DASH. > > Using BBC Sounds, all program are played using DASH. > With Live programs BBC holds typically about 3 hours buffered - in > practice it is the current live program. > > BBC sounds implement the interface where you can go back to start (or > any time point) of a live broadcast. So depending on your timing of your > pause , I think you could have gone back to the start of the play. Wow - thanks! I hadn't noticed this when I transitioned from iPlayer to Sounds. And thanks to all those here who make these miracles possible! LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Good Buffering!
Buffering as a topic is usually problems / issues. This is the opposite - great buffering! Maybe it's always been like this, but not, I think! - in my experience Listening yesterday to the BBC R3 Sunday Drama stream - Shakespeare's Othello - via LMS / BBC Sounds plug-in Live Stream, pushed to a Touch. 2 hours 10 mins of excellent drama. But, 45mins in, I had to Pause the stream to attend to something else. A full hour later I thought I'd get back to it, and at least hear the end. What I expected on hitting Play on the Touch (actually on LMS) was a few minutes of buffered stream from when I had paused, and then a stop-jump to where the stream then was in real time, with just under 30 mins to play. But, the stream picked up exactly where I had paused and then played the rest of the drama, uninterrupted, for well over an hour, right to the end. Just to be sure, when I restarted, I pushed a fresh stream of the play via LMS to a Radio - yes, real time was an hour ahead of the buffered stream. No complaints at all! But I don't think I've ever had a hour or so of buffered live stream before. "Usual", or not? LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16867) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115871 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Has Stopped Working. Cannot Get It Working Again.
gordonb3 wrote: > snip > > Also worth noting that if Windows prompts you that you have to reboot to > finish an uninstall then you need to do so before running a new install > because what the prompt means is that Windows has marked some files to > be deleted at boot time and will continue to do so even if you replaced > those files with newer versions afterwards and thus your new > installation will be crippled. I never really knew that! I do habitually re-boot, though I never really knew why! Very useful to tuck away, that advice - thanks! LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115832 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Has Stopped Working. Cannot Get It Working Again.
d6jg wrote: > As someone posted above the issue is most likely Windows UAC. Microsoft > introduced a new level inside W10 at some point and its not at all > clear to the average Joe how it works. > However if you install by right clicking the installer and choosing Run > as Administrator then LMS should install as a service correctly. > Often users who are Administrators think this step isnt necessary but > it is. Google - Elevated privileges. > > snip Maybe I did that when I installed LMS on this Win10 (now Win11) laptop - though I don't recall doing so, or thinking about the issue. How can I (and indeed the OP) check whether I did or not? Regardless, LMS has been very stable in this configuration. LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115832 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Has Stopped Working. Cannot Get It Working Again.
Mind you, I've had the blue-screen-of-death on Madame's Mac twice last year! And her iPhone's power management is presently a pain in the a** That LMS taskbar icon thing in Windows is a puzzle to me - and not just LMS. Mostly it's "just there" - but sometimes (especially after a Win update) it isn't, and has to be manually pushed up. BTW, I am thinking of going Pi myself when we next move house (which should be this year.) and I want a serious redesign; so I'm always happy to hear happy users' tales! My only hesitation is a lurking sense that the whole LMS word - dearly though I love it - may start to get really toublesome as more router upgrades and redesigns roll into service. We shall see. Hope we hear from the OP again soon - my money is on something in retained preferences having got corrupted. But it's so easy (under Windows) to think that a re-istall is completely clean, and to find that in fact it isn't LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win11 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115832 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Has Stopped Working. Cannot Get It Working Again.
As a dedicated Windows user, I don't have much to add to what's already been said as to trying a completely clean install of the latest LMS version. But I would add this - I've used LMS and Squeezeboxes of one sort or another for *decades* on Windows (currently 11) with hardly any problems whatsoever. So, while I in no way decry the moves some make to Pi systems etc, there is currently no reason whatever why you should not get a fully working, fully reliable, PC-based LMS world. It's annoying to you (and others here!) that it's not working for you just now - but the issue is just not inherent to Windows, as some seem sometimes to suggest. LMS 8.2.1 - 1639114554 Win10 Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115832 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server Versie: 8.3.0 - 1641835163
cb4kda wrote: > When i look add the section information, i saw this by the radio: > > Model van muziekspeler: Squeezebox Radio > Type muziekspeler: baby > Firmware: 8.0.1-r16867 > IP-adres van muziekspeler: 192.168.1.3 > MAC-adres van muziekspeler: 00:04:20:2b:38:84 > > where is the signal from the radio? I miss it On Firmware: 8.0.1-r16862 the wifi signal strength is still there. BUT, I just noticed that the signal strength was given for my 2 radios, but not for my Touch. Hmmm until I remembered that the Touch is LAN wired! LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115730 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Anyone running LMS on Windows 11?
CloudAtlas wrote: > Yes, I've had LMS on my Windows 11 PC for some months now with no > problems. > > It does however say this in Settings/Information > > Operating system: Windows 10 - EN - cp1252 Same for me - when I upgraded to Win 11 a few months ago, I noticed no changes whatsoever in LMS performance. And, I'm not going to mess with it! LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115704 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor
Staying with Logitech, but slightly changing the subject by way of illustration of variety of user experience - the Harmony all-in-one remotes. I **loved** them, and had them "perfectly" set up - and I was the only person who ever picked them up (well, more than once.). Different folks / different strokes, I guess. Anyway, I haven't been married for well over 40 years without knowing when I'm beat! LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110087 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor
Paul Webster wrote: > Persuading the family to use "2" for R4 shows that they can accept the > radical! > > Here > 1 France Inter > 2 FIP > 3 Radio Paradise > 4 BBC R4 > 5 FIP Monde > 6 BBC 6Music Damn - I never thought of that... But, let's just say that, not being R1 or R2 folks (nor 5 and 6 neither), we start with 3 in 1st place! I'm still shuddering at the dark day when 7 became part of the 4 family! LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110087 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor
cpd73 wrote: > Well, with Material you can pin your favourites to its home screen - > this, IMHO, makes things easier, as you don't need to remember a number > mapping and the station logo is on the first screen you see. Agreed - and I have a nice list of Favorites of all sorts, pinned. Madame AGBAGB on the other hand.. LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110087 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor
kidstypike wrote: > I agree, Squeeze Ctrl shows a maximum of 7 presets, there ain't no way > in this world I could remember what I've assigned to a preset, > especially if all players differed. :confused: > > Since Material, I'm afraid Squeeze Ctrl, doesn't get much of an airing. Just to expand, for family use, every player (9 at the last count) has exactly the same presets. And those presets - for us - are almost entirely radio streams, plus a couple of soothing ambient sounds. Personally, I do far more complicated things with "my" LMS, devices and software controllers. But I don't get family accord on a budget for shiny new speakers that I and and only I can get to deliver what is wanted... LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110087 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor
cpd73 wrote: > Material used to support showing the presets, but I removed this. I fail > to see the point when you can use favourites, which have icons. I can > see the point of presets on a hardware device, but not on a software > controller. I agree in so far as I have never myself found the need. However, having got Madame AGBAGB to put an LMS app on her phone, she did enquire why she could not simply continue to do the thing she best understands - 1 for BBC R3, 2 for R4, 3 for 4Ex and 4 for France Culture. She has a point (as ever) . I love the precise control of quite complex audio that the LMS world gives me (brilliantly well-supported by the Resident Geniuses here...); others though want to use the same physical kit in a far, far simpler way. LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110087 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor
kidstypike wrote: > The only Phone app that I know of that can do this is Squeeze Ctrl on > Android. > > 36480 Ahh - thanks! I've never used SqueezeCtrl, but I'll give it a try. In a perfect world I'd find a iPhone app that does the same - me, I'm an Android and PC chap through and through, but there are mad-for-Mac folks in the household! LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110087 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor
'Morning All, I have Presets on all my Radios (via the hardware buttons) and on my Touches (via the numeric keypad on the remotes). Is there a way of selecting a Player within the LMS GUI (or, eg, MaterialSkin on a phone / pad) and then selecting one of the Presets to play? I use the Default GUI usually, and I can't see a way of doing this. It would be especially handy from the phone / pad apps, as the phone would then effectively replace the dedicated remote LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110087 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarm Question (again)
Just to somewhat reply to myself - I simply can't find anyway of firing the Sleep function for a given Player from the Default LMS Interface. Oddly, I've got the old Peter Watkins SleepFade plugin running - but nowhere can I find the Sleep options themselves. LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115506 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarm Question (again)
Well, well, well ... I use the Default LMS Interface, and I don't believe the Sleep function is anywhere available in that. But I now see that using the Material Skin smartphone app (well, I actually use the Core32 version of that), I see that Sleep is there available. And of course as you say Sleep is in the Material LMS interface. Very useful, and stupidly I'd not seen that. I also see that Sleep is available in the old OrangeSqueeze phone app too. Which makes sense. But, am I right that you can't get Sleep in the LMS Defualt Interface, or am I just failing to find it there? LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115506 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarm Question (again)
We've been discussing various replacement kit for Radio and Boom ( https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115478-Recommendations-for-kitchen ) and come up with some interesting ideas, oddities and limitations A feature I use a lot on all my SB devices is the SLEEP option (though this would be relatively unimportant for a specifically kitchen player). Some non SB devices that LMS can drive have their own auto-shutdown / sleep function; some seem not to. Did we ever figure out how to give a sleep command to a device *via LMS* (or a smartphone LMS driver)? Yes, we can do Alarms from LMS - but Sleep? LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115506 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Volume synchronization of synchronized players
Yes you're right - the Touch is (temporarily) not doing audio at all. And of course, I could simply set it to control the SqueezeAmp without any sync - I'd totally forgotten that! It's amazing how much the SB world can do, and how little of it most of us use from day to day. I won't go into the long details of why I'm doing this - but if you all heard a loud howl of anguish at about 6.00pm Central European Time yesterday, that would have been me (after a long day of every first-world travel problem going wrong...) discovering that I'd left the damn power supply for my shiny new AudioEngine A2+s back in Paris. LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114544 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Volume synchronization of synchronized players
For assorted temporary speaker setup reasons I've synched a SqueezeAmp (for audio) with a Touch (for screen, remote and control). Works fine, once I'd discovered here what I'd forgotten, or never knew: that you have (in LMS Settings) to tell them to both Sych AND Sync Volume, separately. Quick question, alluded to in the tread but not 100% clearly to me - when I sync the Current Player (which was the SqueezeAmp) to another player (the Touch), is the SqueezeAmp in any way a "Priority Player", or does the order of setup button-pressing not matter? LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114544 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS > HOME > FAVORITES Issue
So, the second mySB.com favorites appeared at the foot of the list on a full system re-boot. The original, at the top, was indeed http etc etc; the newer one is indeed https etc etc (identical apart from the "s"). Both seemed to get through to the actual mySB saved favorites, but following Michael's advice I've deleted the http one. Will be interesting to see if another one appears on a subsequant reboot, and whether it's https or http .. LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115156 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS > HOME > FAVORITES Issue
mherger wrote: > > Any ideas as to why, and how to stop it? Hardly a big deal, but > > annoying. Never seen it happening before this last week. > > Hmm... would one of them be http and the other https? If you deleted > both, would both come back or only one? > > Make sure the one you have is https. The one at the top of the list - the "usual" one - is http . Next time the second one appears, I'll take a look at what it is. But the http one works fine.. LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115156 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS > HOME > FAVORITES Issue
LMS > HOME > FAVORITES (Default Skin) So, under my Favorites list, the first item is (and clicking on that gives me that particular saved favorites menu). After that are some Favorites local to this particular instance of LMS. Every now and then I get a final entry , a dublicate of the first item. I can go into Edit and delete that duplicate. But, every now and then, it just reappears. Any ideas as to why, and how to stop it? Hardly a big deal, but annoying. Never seen it happening before this last week. LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115156 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream from PC Audio to LMS
CJS wrote: > Thanks for the update. I think that this was the suggestion from last > year in the forum => 'stream what you hear' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?112766-Music-Source-PlugIn=985269=1#post985269) > Nice program, indeed very handy. Since you found the cause of your > problem, I suppose that in the mean time the problem is fixed? I searched and searched for that link to garym's suggestion, but somehow never found it! Yes, my problem is solved. As I said, I was faddling around with the URLs to save as a favorite (as the streaming had stopped working) and managed to delete it. Then - and this annoys me! - I forgot that, using this laptop as I do on 2 entirely different networks, of course the URL needs to be configured to the local server... And once I'd figured that, I eventually noticed that StremWhatYouHear wasn't running in the background anyway, so no URL/Favorite would have worked. So, I went down a few rabbit holes before the simple fixes worked... It is a very handy program / facility. I also occasionally use it for streaming radio whose browser-based access is more easily searchable than what comes up on the LMS radio menus. Find and play it in the browser, then sling it direct to LMS (remembering then to mute the laptop audio...). Also - and this for cricket fans, while sometimes Test Match Special on BBC radio is geo-restricted to the UK (and even defeats a VPN), the Beeb have recently been providing the Audio for overseas listeners via a YouTube channel. And SWYH is an easy way to LMS that feed. Cheers, Gary LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115102 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream from PC Audio to LMS
Thanks to one and all. Turns out that the suggestion from way back in the Forum was to use Stream What You Hear, and to copy and paste the streaming URL as an LMS favorite. That URL is http://***.***.*.**:5901/stream/swyh.mp3I did have that backed up in my system, but the problem turned out to be that somehow Stream What You Hear had stopped running, and was not auto-starting on bootup: no idea why, as I'd been using it a lot recently. For me its use is to a) stream BBC radio from the laptop to LMS on those strange occasions when Sounds (via the plug-in) is geographically restricted but browser access isn't; and b) to stream YouTube audio for some sports stuff. Very handy. LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115102 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream from PC Audio to LMS
A while back, one of the Clever Coves here in the forums suggested a simple way of streaming the actual audio playing on a PC to LMS, and thence to players. It involved simply saving as a favorite an appropriate: . Has worked fine for me: run the local PC audio, and hit the saved "PC Stream" favorite in LMS, directed at a particular player. But today I unintentionally deleted the favorite, and can't from memory (nor from research in the forums) re-create it. Can anyone remind me of what to do? LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115102 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Moving LMS to a new computer
Also, almost always a "new computer" is substantially faster - processor, ssd etc etc - than your old one, even if getting a faster machine has not per se been an objective of the upgrade. When I installed LMS on this new machine, and plugged in a 1tb external ssd packed full of FLAC stuff, I expected a looong scan, overnight and more. Took a couple of hours. LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Riva Arena (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115002 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] BBC Sounds
bpa wrote: > I think another user had a vaguely similar issue > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113045-Announce-BBC-Sounds-Plugin=1024338=1#post1024338 > > It may be best to add your issues in the BBC Sounds thread - perhaps > they are related. That was me - and I'm pretty sure it wasn't a Sounds / BBC issue but an LMS / network glitch, with drop-outs fooling the Beeb Sounds streams (or the LMS end of them) into thinking I wasn't logged in. Resolved itself after a day or so, iirc. LMS 8.1.2 - 1622353561 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Riva Arena (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114777 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] BBC rejig streaming
bpa wrote: > A BBC comment on the above BBC Blog entry > > > > Speculation is this is aimed mainly at Reciva device such as Roberts. > This will affect any Squeezebox users playing BBC via mysqueezebox.com These days I only use mySB.com when my local server is, for one reason or another, down; and that's not very often, not for very long. However, is there a "BBC stream for mySB.com" workround, for "just in case"? LMS 8.0.1 (1606118512) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Riva Arena (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114087 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.0 repository problem
slartibartfast wrote: > You would buy a Raspberry Pi and then wonder why you didn't do it years > ago [emoji1787] > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Ha! Fair enough; and indeed I might investigate the Pi route, life still being Covid-quiet here. Though I think that, for me, it's really "all about the music", and there are household members here who observe that I seem to spend more time fiddling with the Squeeze-systems innards, than listening to Beethoven... Those same household members - dearly loved - are stoutly opposed to yet more boxes, wires, lights, and general kit in the home! LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111658 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.0 repository problem
Heavens - this has sent a small chill through my Win10 heart! I can perhaps add that, over the years, I've "evangelised" the Squeezebox world to many friends, and been their (very simple) tech support. Almost all Win, a few Mac. I think that now, without exception, they have moved to other systems (largely Sonos..) as Squeeze has become legacy, and "just too much faff" for them. Not sure what I would do if one day the Community here (and what a wonderful lot you are!) dropped Windows support... LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111658 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 7.9.2 stopping
There's also a Sticky right at the head of the LMS section of the forums that always has links to all current versions of LMS: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98711-Logitech-Media-Server-Versions LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112798 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server Version 7.9 - stopped scanning files
Not sure if this is related. Since installing 7.9.3, my ScanLog has literally thousands of entries, all somewhat like this: Slim::Schema::_preCheckAttributes (2596) Invalid ReplayGain tag found in D:\MEDIA\1 - INSTRUMENTAL\BACH, J.S\BAROQUE SELECTIONS\Baroque 2 - Masters of Baroque Music\14 - Bach _ Brandenburg concerto No.3 in G Maj, BW1048-Allegro - Baroque 2 - Masters of Baroque Music.mp3: REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN -> or Slim::Schema::_createOrUpdateAlbum (1195) Invalid ReplayGain tag found in D:\MEDIA\3 - MODERN\Waters, Muddy Live SF 1966\019Sweet Sixteen.mp3: REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_GAIN -> Every line has either (2596) or (1195) in it, alternating. At a glance, it looks as if this "error" is being reported for almost every track in my Library. However, all the tracks play just fine. Very odd. LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112781 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 7.9.2 stopping
Plus, the most current release of 7.9.3 (7.9.3 - 1597753178) has a couple of small fixes to address the puzzling repository errors that are still persisting, while our genius volunteer coders are wrestling the issue to the ground ... I installed it this morning over my previous 7.9.3, with no problems at all. LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112798 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Praise
dagb wrote: > I just fired up LMS 8 after I fell off the Squeezebox train a couple of > years ago. (There were perfectly good reasons for it at the time.) > > I have not kicked the tires really hard yet, but my goodness You > guys are definitely not just keeping this thing alive! It works as great > as ever, it handles my streaming service as well as my local files, and > now also Sonos devices are handled seamlessly via the DLNA bridge. > Podcasts. ... > > And the material skin suddenly makes this thing look fabulous on a tiny > screen as well. Subject to taste, of course. I love it. > > I am very, very grateful for what you all do. I will not mention > particular names/handles, you know who you are. > > Thanks! Well, somebody should say, Hear, Hear! There are a bunch of amazingly dedicated, helpful, expert and quick folk in this Forum. I recently had horrible problems with an update of another piece of "legacy" software - Thunderbird email - that I've used for 20 or so years - no real Support Forum at all now, for some reason, even though the good folks at Mozilla are still working on it So, the SqueezeSupport here - all voluntary - is truly amazing. LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112782 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logging Has Lost Its Date / Time Stamp - Solutions?
mherger wrote: > > Odd. Any ideas on how to fix? > > Go to Settings/Information to see where your prefs are stored. Remove > log.conf and restart LMS. > > -- > > Michael Thanks Michael - that did it. Quick (and truncated) extract from new server log: Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-18 14:28:03.0979] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.9.3, 1596893334, Sun Aug 9 04:07:48 WEDT 2020) perl 5.014001 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread [20-08-18 14:28:05.2471] Plugins::NPRRadio::Metadata::init (21) Register NPR meta provider, default icon= [20-08-18 14:28:09.1997] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-18 14:28:09.2000] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: htt LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112778 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logging Has Lost Its Date / Time Stamp - Solutions?
I though I'd open a new thread on this, so as not to clutter the substantive discussions in other thread on the current LMS / Inaccessible Repository / Hangs / Crashes threads... In posting my assorted Server Logs in those threads, member bpa noticed that at a certain point my logs had lost their date stamps for errors events, as below. I subsequently installed a successful 7.9.3 over the problematic 7.9.2, but the logs - as of this morning - still lack a date / time stamp; which is unhelpful. I tried resetting my Logging preferences; I tried a general re-boot. But still no date / time stamps on entries. I looked through various other members' log details on the Repository fault, and nobody else seems to have this same logging issue. Odd. Any ideas on how to fix? Server Log, showing loss of date / time stamp sometime after 15th Aug 2020: [20-08-15 11:27:30.6865] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6887] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6888] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.9.2, 1578996832, Tue Jan 14 12:09:46 WEST 2020) perl 5.014001 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (377) Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2143) Warning: Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized! Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (377) Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2143) Warning: Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized! Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::initPlugin (154) Can't connect to port 10002 - MusicIP disabled. main::checkDataSource (1107) Warning: Schema updated or no media found in the database, initiating scan. Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112778 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.0 repository problem
bpa wrote: > Second note > > Later in log - suddenly there are no date/time stamp on the log entries > after a restart. This indicates that LMS log configuration has been > corrupted in some way and IIRC it needs to be deleted to restore the > time stamps/. > > > Code: > > > [20-08-15 11:27:30.6865] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml > [20-08-15 11:27:30.6887] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor > [20-08-15 11:27:30.6888] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml > main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.9.2, 1578996832, Tue Jan 14 12:09:46 WEST 2020) perl 5.014001 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread > Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (377) Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table > Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2143) Warning: Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized! > Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (377) Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table > Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2143) Warning: Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized! > Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::initPlugin (154) Can't connect to port 10002 - MusicIP disabled. > main::checkDataSource (1107) Warning: Schema updated or no media found in the database, initiating scan. > Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor > Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml > Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor > > I'd noticed that too, when I was trying to sort out what logging was 7.9.2, and what was after the 7.9.3 install. The date stamp failure started under 7.9.2, but in fact continues under 7.9.3. No idea how I fix that. Best choice I see is Settings>Advanced>Logging>Select Log Set>Reset Logging Preferences. I'll give that a try, having first made sure I have the full existing server log saved (it seems goes back to 2017, which is surprising to me given I did a wholly fresh LMS install on this new laptop just a few months ago...). LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111658 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.0 repository problem
bpa wrote: > I can only explain the BBCiPlayer related error which indicate "long > chunk time". BBC radio streams use DASH or HLS protocol which means > audio stream is made up of 3.2 sec audio chunks each one is a HTTP > request. Normally each request will be fetched within about 80-100ms. > The log indicates that many chunk fetch times are taking about 1 or 2 > sec and not 100msecs. There are even a few 4 secs delays and one or two > 12 secs delays. This usually indicates a problem in local network or an > ISP problem. > > .. > I think this is an oddity of the compromise system I use in this location (b, below) - the LMS is sitting on a WiFi Laptop, which sometimes has a less-than-perfect connection to the otherwise fast fibre-supplied network; the Touch is on LAN. If I put the laptop onto the LAN, those "long chunk time" warnings go away. This has come up as an issue before when you've helped me out with iPlayer issues. No easy way round it, in this particular apartment! Doesn't happen on the a) system below, which is all LAN (though has a lousy supply by the ISP...). LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111658 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.0 repository problem
I was the OP in another of the "repository errors stopping 7.9.2 running" threads. I "fixed" this by installing 7.9.3. And, so far as I can tell, my whole system is working perfectly, both from its stored music and from BBC radio streams. However, the Server Log looks like a total mess to me (but I'm no tech expert at all..), with all sorts of "errors" I've never before seen, as well as the same repository curiosities. Attached, for anyone who's interested! 31316 +---+ |Filename: 17 Aug 20202 server.log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31316| +---+ LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111658 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.0 repository problem
mherger wrote: > >> It's basically the same cause but for what ever reason it caused LMS > >> 7.9.x to actually crash, fail to start. > > I've seen take a very long time to load the plugins page or restart > (minutes), but not crash. > > FWIW: my hosting service just confirmed that they did disable TLS 1.0 > and 1.1 with last week's update to the infrastructure. That could > certainly hurt _some_ systems with outdated SSL libraries. Why it would > > result to problems on some Windows systems, but not others, that's the > big question. Would people here have some kind of security package which > > might intercept the traffic in order to scan downloads etc.? > > -- > > Michael Win10 pushed out some Windows Defender Updates over the "problem weekend", and of course some folks will have had those auto-installed, and some not. I tried assorted browsers when I could not connect to Port 9000 (and had the Repository Error in the Server Log), but that made no difference. And OrangeSqueeze / Material Skin could not get onto the LMS from phones or pads, even though Windows seemed to think LMS was sort-of running. I don't use any security on Win10 other than Defender. Here's what MS pushed out on the dates of interest, if it's of any use / interest - +---+ |Filename: Capture.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31314| +---+ LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111658 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor
Only just seen this thread, and this great little Presets Editor - most useful! Saves wandering from room to room, device to device when updating stuff. Gary LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110087 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Accessing Plugin tab in settings (web interface) crashes LMS. How to debug?
bpa wrote: > The https / XML / timeout below is appearing on many different threads. > They seem to be mainly from 7.9.2 Windows users. My suspicon is > something https related - perhaps something like a minimum level TLS > support has been changed or an "old" LMS HTTPS issue/bug is happening. > > 7.9.3 Windows seems to fix for many. Just out of curiosity - and as this issue seems to have arisen over the weekend - I looked at what updates Win10 may have slipped into the system. These are the only date-applicatble ones I can see on my set-up - and I wouldn't have thought they could have sone much +---+ |Filename: Capture.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31313| +---+ LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112758 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Accessing Plugin tab in settings (web interface) crashes LMS. How to debug?
mherger wrote: > > Also LMS8 on Debian. I'm also seeing this error for the > squeezecommunity > > url, but not for Michael's test repository. The Plugins tab loads > > without crashing and displays this error at the top of the page: > > Is this an ongoing issue? Your remark is particularly interesting as the > > two files are hosted on the same host, within the same account... > > That said: my hosting service did run major updates on the > infrastructure Friday night. Could this be related to those activities? > > -- > > Michael Relating to something in other threads (where folks are reporting freezes with 7.9.2, with all seeming fixed with a manual update to 7.9.3), when would the auto-update (if user-chosen) from 7.9.1 to 7.9.2 have happened? Most of the "unavailable repository" problems do seem to have arisen over this past weekend or was the update to 7.9.2 well before this? LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112758 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Accessing Plugin tab in settings (web interface) crashes LMS. How to debug?
Manchester Martin wrote: > I'm using Windows 10 Home and LMS 7.9.2 (Version: 7.9.2 - 1578996832 @ > Tue Jan 14 12:09:46 WEST 2020 IO::Socket::SSL: 2.024) > I have also started getting the error in the last few days: > [20-08-17 09:59:11.3210] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) > Failed to fetch repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed > out: Bad file descriptor > [20-08-17 09:59:11.3212] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) > https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: > repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml > > which causes LMS to fail during startup. (I've had to remove https/http > from the urls as this is my 1st post) > The only way I've found to get the server to startup is to disable > network access! > > Has something changed at squeezecommunity.org, as I've not changed > anything? Upgrading to 7.9.3 seems to fix the problem (at least for most folks.): https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98711-Logitech-Media-Server-Versions LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112758 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Frozen, Crashing...
cathcam wrote: > After the update and server restart I still get these errors, yeah I > have to update mysqueezebox.com userid/password. > > > > I too had to re-enter the MySB.com details - but I thought that was > because I'd tried clearing my cache before I decided to do the update to > 7.9.3. > > To connect to another related thread, when I did a cache clear, > everything seemed to work well enough, until I clicked on > Settings>Plugins, which then re-crashed LMS... So, at that point I > rebooted and did an install of 7.9.3 over 7.9.2 (and was going to do a > full uninstall-install if that had not worked). The overlay seemed to > work 100% - but having done the cache clear before that, I still had to > do some manual tweaking of 7.9.3 to get everything back as I like it LMS 7.9.3 (1596893334) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Frozen, Crashing...
bpa wrote: > I think following may work - I use to change a post title. > 1. go to first post > 2. Selected "Edit post" > 3. Select "Go Advanced" > 4. Change text in title box. > > Not sure if this just changes post title or thread title as well. Just post title.. LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS running but can't be contacted on Port 9000
john greenwood wrote: > Problem resolved when I installed 7.9.3. I see there's another thread > where other people had the same problem today. And yet another thread about clicking on Settings>PlugIns crashing pre-7.9.3 LMS I had that oddity, as well as several others, all solved by shifting to 7.9.3. LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112759 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Accessing Plugin tab in settings (web interface) crashes LMS. How to debug?
gorman wrote: > Yesterday, after my machine completely crashed after a game had a bad > RAM leak, I met with a strange behavior from LMS. I mention the crash as > I am not sure that the two things are linked but it happened so... worth > mentioning it, I guess. > > > > BUT, when accessing the plugin tab in settings I had a couple of other > crashes, with the LMS service stopping. > > I wanted to ask what specific debug settings I could try activate in > logs to get to the bottom of this. I would avoid reinstalling everything > from scratch, if at all possible. > Thank you. You'll see a couple of other current threads about recent problems with big LMS crashes, and problems accessing Port 9000. The crash on hitting PlugIns was one of the many symptoms I had (though I didn't mention it in the thread I started). The solution to all the issues seems simply to be to upadate to 7.9.3. 7.9.2 seems to be doing some very odd things to a lot of folks.. LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112758 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Frozen, Crashing...
As Thread Starter, is it possible for me to edit the Thread Title to add "Port 9000 Unavailable" to it: there are now multiple threads addressing the same curious phenomenon, seemingly solved by installing 7.9.3. I'm sure I've done a Tread Title edit before, but now don't see how to do it. LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Frozen, Crashing...
dwc wrote: > regarding downloading 7.9.3 - I'm only seeing nightlies. > > Just grab the 7.9.3 here? >> > http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.9 > > thanks I think this is where Michael Herger posts the latest download links (in a Sticky, at the top of the LMS Forum page): https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98711-Logitech-Media-Server-Versions I'm still puzzled why my LMS auto-updated from 7.9.1 to 7.9.2, but not to 7.9.3 . LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Frozen, Crashing...
bpa wrote: > Without warning, stations and associated services (e.g. Akamai, Tune-in, > Radio.net etc) can change to a different level of TLS which used in in > https and so "problems" can occur overnight. Issues might be related to > CA certificates being renewed which are also part of the https & TLS > process. At least on 7.9.3 you have a system where "out of date" https > support is not a consideration and system can be debugged. > > The BBciPlayer repository URL to be added to LMS WebUI Settings/Plugins > > http://bpa-code.github.io/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml Many thanks, again. LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Frozen, Crashing...
So, clearing prefs etc and updating to 7.9.3 seems to have worked. But, given that the fault developed "out of the blue", we shall see over the course of the day... BTW, I have Auto Install of updates enabled. So I guess I went from the manual, fresh install of 7.9.1 to 7.9.2 without noticing. But why then no auto-update to 7.9.3? Q: Given that I cleared my Prefs etc, I now see that the optional Repository box in Settings>PlugIns is empty. I though I had entries there relating both to BBC iPlayer, and AirPlay Bridge. Do I in fact need anything there, and how do I find the Repositories if so needed? Cheers, LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Frozen, Crashing...
bpa wrote: > Why did you upgrade to 7.9.2 and not 7.9.3 ? Missing out on very many > bug fixes - especially https ones. > > 7.9.2 - 2020 is just the build date - no significant code changes for > over 12 months. 7.9.3 has only had some bugs fixes in last 12 months. > 8.* is where development is happening. > > https is not a static feature - new versions of TLS have been deployed > since 7.9.2 and some sites only work with the latest. Sites change over > to new versions of TLS overnight and so network failures can happen > suddenly. > > It is hard to debug a system which uses old s/w. On this new machine I installed - just a couple of months ago - 7.9.1. No idea how it changed to 7.9.2 in the meantime But I've now downloaded 7.9.3 and will upgrade. In the meantime, I tried something I had mentioned above - the CleanUp option of Preferences and Caches. That seems to have fixed the problem; and I seem to have been able to rebuild all my prefs etc etc pretty easily. I'm just doing a media rescan, and then I'll update LMS to 7.9.3. LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Frozen, Crashing...
This is the Server Log since the restart mentioned above (BTW, I can access those 2 "unavailable" repository directories direct in F'fox): [20-08-15 11:27:25.8217] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.9.2, 1578996832, Tue Jan 14 12:09:46 WEST 2020) perl 5.014001 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread [20-08-15 11:27:30.6053] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6055] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6622] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6625] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6658] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6661] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6689] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6692] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6715] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6717] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6731] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6732] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6743] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6744] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6761] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6762] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6783] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6784] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6824] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6826] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6845] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6846] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6863] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6865] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 11:27:30.6887] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 11:27:30.6888] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Frozen, Crashing...
bpa wrote: > It "feels" like LMS is not running. Control Panel is separate from LMS- > I don;t know how it checks that LMS is running. > > Can you kill the slimserver.exe using Task manager ? Yes. So my Win10 notification area now shows the LMS icon greyed out, and reading (on a hover) "LMS Stopped". Right click on the icon, and then "Start LMS" gives a briefly flashing icon and then "LMS Running" with a solid icon. However, trying to open the Web GUI again gives "Unable to connect. Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1:9000." Very odd. I'm wondering whether to Uninstall / Reinstall .. LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Frozen, Crashing...
Just an additional thing Looking at LMS Control Panel>Diagnostics, I see this: "Logitech Media Server is running but can't be contacted on port 9000." and in the LMS panel of that page I see: LMS - Running IP - (correct) Port 3483 (slimproto) - Failed Port 9000 (HTTP) - (blank) Port 9090 (CLI) - Failed LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Frozen, Crashing...
bpa wrote: > A lot of services now require https support - https support in 7.9.1 > was not great. I think old https support is the issues causing "error > fetching RadioPlayer BBC data while playing so try fetching again" > > There was a bug in Windows LMS 7.9.1 ( IIRC pre- July 2018, your LMS is > March 2018) which meant BBCiPlayer could have issues playing BBC HLS > streams. > > If https support is not up to date - strange issues can occur. > > What version of IO::Sockets::SSL do you have - look in WebUI Settings/ > Information ? It should be at least 2.* and preferably higher than > 2.002. Thanks, as ever, for the quick reply. I can't get the LMS web GUI to open at all - "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at ..9000" - so I can't get into LMS Settings.. Any other way of finding that info? Also, up until this morning, everything was working fine. Any mileage in running a CleanUp via LMS Control Panel > Advanced ? LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Frozen, Crashing...
Last night I ran a BBC radio stream on a Radio via LMS 7.9.1, no problems. But this morning, while the radio stream was still running, my browser (F'fox) won't connect to LMS, and no other player will connect to LMS. Tried a few re-boots, but no joy. Windows tells me LMS is running, but if I try to stop it I get this message: "Stopping LMS failed. Please see the Event Viewer and Contact Support. Opening LMS Control Panel is odd too - I can't get it to open as Admin, and I can't use the Control Panel to stop or start LMS - "not responding" Here's a server log extract, accessed via the Control Panel. The last couple of lines are then repeated several hundred times, up until a time stamp of a few minutes ago: Plugins::BBCiPlayer::BBCOnAir::__ANON__ (236) error fetching RadioPlayer BBC data while playing so try fetching again [20-08-13 23:08:24.2244] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.9.2, 1578996832, Tue Jan 14 12:09:46 WEST 2020) perl 5.014001 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread [20-08-14 01:12:53.3627] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (377) Unable to get players from SN: Error reading headers: Server closed connection without sending any data back at /Net/HTTP/Methods.pm line 306. ...propagated at /Net/HTTPS/NB.pm line 264. , retrying in 900 seconds [20-08-15 00:10:53.0511] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [20-08-15 00:10:53.0517] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (149) https lookup failed - trying plain text http instead: http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml [20-08-15 00:10:53.0693] Slim::Networking::Repositories::__ANON__ (146) Failed to fetch https://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor Any clues welcome! LMS 7.9.1 (1522157629) Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Sagem Livebox Music: Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) b) Freebox Music: External SSD (all mp3), Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 1 x SB Radio, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Pair Riva Arenas (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112756 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Odd display of artist and album names
Here's an oddity that I've been worrying at over the last couple of days - not sure how / whether precisely related to this thread so far, but it involves accented letters I had a whole folder of mp3 off-air recordings of the John Le Carré oeuvre, 12 sub-folders in all. But no matter what I did, the main folder showed up as containing only one book folder, named , which played fine; but all the others - all named something like etc - were missing in LMS. I could go direct to the folders on my PC and play them on, say, Winamp - so no problems with the mp3s themselves. Seeing this thread, I just wondered if the accented é in the folder titles was causing some sort of issue - but, then, the stuff played fine. Anyway, I tried deleting the é in and replacing it thusly . Ah-ha - the folder now shows up in LMS and plays fine! So, an easy solution. BUT, here's an oddity that someone else will probably immediately identify. When I - in Windows File Explorer - hightlighted , jumped to the end and backspaced the é, it didn't vanish as I expected, but simply changed to a plain e. No idea how I ever typed the é it in the first place - but it would have been within mp3tag. Strangely, the one folder that was showing up, must have had that é encoded differently, as the backspace deleted the é rather than altering it. So, two different encoding of the é, one of which LMS was fine with, and one of which rendered the folder invisible on a scan. Anyway, I replaced them all with a plain e to totally avoid the issue. I dare say that I will have this problem elsewhere in the entire Music Folder, which I have just not yet noticed. Only thing I can say if that, over the years, I have played all those Le Carré books many times - and never before noticed this problem. However, this is a wholly new installation of LMS and a new physical SDD with the Music Folder on it - so maybe something odd has happened in the transfer process. Sorry for the length of the "issue", but it had me baffled for a few days. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1522157629 @ Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 3 x Touch, 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112584 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Removing a player from the drop down list?
I had a similar thing when I installed the AirPlay Bridge PlugIn - successful and trouble free for a new Airplay speaker, but the Drop Down Player List on the LMS GUI now showed my Apple TV and my Cable Box as Players. Turns out that right at the bottom of the AirPlay Bridge PlugIns setting page there is an option to tick or untick all the devices it can find. So, unticking the unwanted ones there removed them from the LMS GUI. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1522157629 @ Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 3 x Touch, 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112237 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Home Menu Order in LMS GUI
kidstypike wrote: > Yes, I do know that. :) > > I don't think it's ever been possible to re-order the menu items under > "My Music" in the LMS web GUI. Though, as someone pointed out in response to my initial post, the Material Skin plug-in does allow that. Once all my assorted new installs on the new machine are bedded in, I might give it a go. Anyway, many thanks as ever to one and all - a more helpful and expert Support Community does not exist! AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1522157629 @ Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 3 x Touch, 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112423 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Home Menu Order in LMS GUI
kidstypike wrote: > You can choose which menu items you wish to see under My Music using the > LMS web UI, but you can't re-order them there. You need to do this on > the player (Touch, Radio, Squeezeplay). > > Example - move "Albums" to top of My Music. > > Though that re-orders them only on the Player - they still appear on LMS GUI in its own determined order AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1522157629 @ Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 3 x Touch, 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112423 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Home Menu Order in LMS GUI
slartibartfast wrote: > I have never ordered MyMusic on the player, didn't even know you could. > I do it in the player settings on LMS > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Actually, this is all very odd.. I've just looked in SETTINGS>PLAYER and there's now an ADDITIONAL BROWSE MODES option, which *does* allow the LMS Home Menu to be customized. And I see that this option in in fact an optional Plugin - maybe I had just never activated it in previous installations! Let's hope I'm finally "all set"! AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1522157629 @ Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 3 x Touch, 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112423 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Home Menu Order in LMS GUI
slartibartfast wrote: > Just install it over the top. > http://downloads.slimdevices.com/LogitechMediaServer_v7.9.1/ > It might be worth considering 7.9.2 or 7.9.3 to be more up to date. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Thanks for that - all is now well! I'm sticking to 7.9.1 for now. I also just remembered the solution to my original problem - duh Of course, the Menus under Home in the LMS Web Interface are *set at the player level*. So, to re-order them and chose which to see, that's done on the plyer itself, and are then just mirrored at the LMS GUI. An oddity seems to be that, following a new LMS installation on a new machine, LMS alters the Player preferences that were previously set at the individual players. I just took a close look at a Touch (which I usually run wholly from the LMS), and saw that all my Menus had been set to some unholy, messy "Default". So, to get my LMS menus in order, I need to sit with the assorted palyers for a few minutes... I quite like to look of Material Skin though - and it does mean that Home Menus can be organised from the LMS interface. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1522157629 @ Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 3 x Touch, 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112423 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Home Menu Order in LMS GUI
Here's an oddity. My Sig shows 7.9.1 as my LMS. That's correct on my old machine. But my new install on the new machine is 7.7.6. No idea why - I just went to the LMS mainpage and took the available "current" download. Although the new set up seems to be working fine, maybe that's my problem with no Material Skin (and a couple of BBC iPlayer oddities than I'm worrying away at). How do I force LMS to do an update to 7.9.1, withough having to go through the whole set-up process again? AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1522157629 @ Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 3 x Touch, 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112423 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Home Menu Order in LMS GUI
d6jg wrote: > If you use Material skin you can re-order the Home page as you wish Hmmm - I'm not seeing that as an option anywhere even though the author's github page says it's now an official 3rd party add on. I tried adding his repo URL too, but still no sigh of Materail Skin being available AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1522157629 @ Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 3 x Touch, 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112423 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Home Menu Order in LMS GUI
I'm sure |I sked this recently, and got a good answer. But I'm damed if I can now find it I'm a dab hand with re-ordering Menus on various players. But, how do I customize the Home Menus in the LMS web GUI itself? I use the DEFAULT interface. I've just installed LMS on a new machine - and the contents of the MY MUSIC are a mess, that I'd like to much simplify. Likewise, I'd really like the FAVORITES tab to be at the top, not 4th down. Any hints (again) gratefully received. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1522157629 @ Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 3 x Touch, 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112423 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] library rescan seems to start at random times
I had a RESCAN oddity recently that I was going to raise in the Forum, but which I managed eventually to solve on my own. My LMS is set to RESCAN when it detects additions or changes. I hadn't done either recently, but LMS was suddenly endlessly rescanning, and freezing up in assorted annoying ways. While I was grabbing and preparing LOGGING files to show here, I noticed that they seemed to show a scanning hang-up with a single MP3 file in a single album (among thousands). I guessed that file - which I had not touched for years, even just to play it - had somehow developed corruption and that LMS was seeing this as a change that it could not deal with. Oddly, the file still played fine (in WinAmp - I couldn't get near it via LMS)! So, I simply deleted the file from its album folder, and then a RESCAN went though the whole music HDD quite quickly, and finished properly. I had another FLAC version of the same file, so I then just popped that into the folder, and again a RESCAN went ahead with no problems. Odd, really: why should an unused file suddenly corrupt itself? And why would LMS see that as a "change", triggering RESCAN? AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1522157629 @ Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 3 x Touch, 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110808 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarm Stream Switching to Disco at the Same Time Every Morning
bpa wrote: > > > > I think the alarm sounds you are talking about are catgeory within sound > loop ones such as ambulance, rooster, falling rain , crashing waves etc. > These have to have a connection the LMS/mysqueezebox.com to work - they > are not stored in the Radio/Touch. > > Odd. Until the Factory Reset, the *only* Alarm options I had in LMS for Radio were Current Playlist / Favorites / Specified Playlist. Nothing else. Which is why I thought Radio was somehow different to Touch. But I now see all those "Musical Sounds" options on Radio and Touch in the LMS > Settings route. Clearly some sort of memory glitch in that particular Radio, now hopefully fixed. I might have a go at changing the default alarm.mp3 in Radio at some point - but, as I say, the method/s just a bit beyond my paygrade.. Thanks as ever for the help. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1522157629 @ Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110274 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarm Stream Switching to Disco at the Same Time Every Morning
bpa wrote: > You have checked that the alt-CDN station plays OK under normal control > - it's not a valid test unless you know that. It's playing on the Radio as I write! So tomorrow, _on verra_ (as we say here in France). AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110274 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarm Stream Switching to Disco at the Same Time Every Morning
bpa wrote: > Definitely try the alternate CDN for your evening listening - it is no > effort to choose the different menu and if the errors goes away then you > know it is BBC/CDN issues and you can use it for your alarm. > > From time to time, other users show the same "delay" log entries (I get > bursts of it every so often on weekends) - I think it is associated > with CDN server / network being either overloaded or possibly being > upgraded with some equipment offline. By using a different CDN - you can > bypass this temporary disruption with no changes to software or quality. OK - I've programed the altCDN non-UK R4 stream for tomorrow morning. We shall see And when I get a chance I'll do some logging of those alternative servers. Cheers. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110274 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarm Stream Switching to Disco at the Same Time Every Morning
bpa wrote: > The time restrictions are generated whenever you start the pls. > So you have a couple of things to try as afavorite > 1. Use the BBC pls file > 2. Use the raw URL no paramters - > http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio4fm_mf_q > 3. Create a playlist file like BBC one but without the parameters. It > means failover to alternate URL (p vs. q) will work. > > Code: > > > [playlist] > NumberOfEntries=2 > File1=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio4fm_mf_p > Title1=No Title > Length1=-1 > File2=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio4fm_mf_q > Title2=No Title > Length2=-1 > > > > 4. Try the -plugin iplayer MP3 URL - with 1.6.3 gives you same > metadata & images as DASH/HLS streams. > > Code: > > > iplayer://live?mp3=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio4fm_mf_p=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_fourfm/600x600.png=bbc_radio_fourfm > > > > 5. Try the Tune-in BBC R4 MP3 URL - will give some metadata > > > As I said Alarm does effectively a "repeat" when retrying a broken URL > - so it may be piggybacking on the repeat code. > > ABOVE DOES NOT DEAL WITH THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM - YOUR BIG ISSUES IS > WHY ARE THERE SO MANY DELAYED PACKETS - THIS IS NOT GOOD. IS IT THE > BBC/CDN OR YOUR ISP OR YOUR LAN > As a first test - try playing BBC live R3 or R4 via the alternate CDN > menu (Limelight vs Akamai) - 2nd (non UK) or 3rd last (UK) menu item > in BBCiplayer menu. This will use a different set of BBC servers and > network connections. Check log to see if you get the delay messages > when playing the alternate. Thanks! Will try all that as two separate experiments. Will do the present Alarm issue first, just in case. And then over the next few days will log the various streams. I suspect my LAN (Freebox, here in Paris) which is ultra-quick fibre into the apartment and utter cr*p wifi within the apartment (with no real option to ethernet the radio).. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110274 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarm Stream Switching to Disco at the Same Time Every Morning
bpa wrote: > IIRC BBC put start & end validity time parameters on the URLs in a pls - > the "s=" and the "e=" with Linux epochtime - this restricts the > validity of the URL which measn the specifc URL cannot be restarted > after the "e=" time. > > Code: > > > [playlist] > NumberOfEntries=2 > File1=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio4fm_mf_p?s=1551773147=1551787547=d59651981ca281614b14020e089ff98a > Title1=No Title > Length1=-1 > File2=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio4fm_mf_q?s=1551773147=1551787547=e7c1d21ac0b1b5b7f5a4465bc7448aad > Title2=No Title > Length2=-1 > > > > Not sure if alarm code uses the pls to restart or the internal URL. > (e.g. http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio4fm_mf_p ) > > > > Checked alarm code - 0 does still means no limit. I'm guess the 8:17 > fault is interaction with chunked http and the delays - lots of timers > all running at the same time - I suspect it is related to using HTTP > 1.1. > > > Don't use Radio so I've no idea what "blueness" means but I think > alarms always has "repeat" when playing to cope with short URL > breakages (it caused a lot of work when initial alarm code was written > as it was frequent complaint by users) Thanks again. I'll try tonight the BBC R4 MP3 I quoted above - that's a long-time Saved Favorite, and seems to work every time I try it, so no obvious time restrictions. In another ALARM thread for back in the day I noticed few folks with a broadly similar error to the one I'm having recommended trying a slightly different start time for the alarm itself, so I'll vary that by a couple of minutes too. As to the "blueness", I'm referring to the Default GUI of the LMS Server. Up alongside the Pause/Play/ Jump buttons is the icon for REPEAT. Three options: Off (grey) , Repeat Track (blue), Repeat Playlist (blue with squiggle). I always have that button Off. But this morning it was On/Blue. As you say, that probably Alarm itself necessitating a Repeat. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110274 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarm Stream Switching to Disco at the Same Time Every Morning
bpa wrote: > Problem are due to not using the sort of URL the Alarm expects - Alarm > code was written abour 10 years before streaming tech changes (chunked > http, http 1.0 vs 1.1) and also before playing restrictions were added > by BBC and other stations. > > 1. You cannot really use BBCiPlayer URLs with alarms becuase it is using > chunked http - alarms expects normal http stream and has mechanism to > handle temporary fault and the chunked http is probably confusing it. > 2. Use a BBC MP3 stream for alarms - it is normal http. Do not use a > URL with a time token otherwise stream will not restart (i.e pull the > playlist apart first and strip parameters from URLs) to avoid BBC > restriction mechanism > 3. The long delay messages means you have are getting poor service from > BBC with packets or have problems in local LAN. Stream is made up of 6 > sec chunks - instead of a packet arriving in about 80-100ms - yours are > taken 2-3 secs and ones was about 4.5sec - huge delays. The > disconnection are because packet were not received within a timelimit > and so stream was disconnected by BBC. > 4. What is the alarm duration setting for the alarm as shown on the > WebUI Many thanks for the quick reply, as ever! 2 - the saved R4 MP3 stream that I sometimes use is < http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-mp3-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_fourfm.pls >. Would that work, or do I need to edit it before trying? 4 - is set to 0 minutes, which is said to mean "never stops playing". Is that the setting you mean? I also tried 90 minutes, but with the same 0817 "fault". BTW, after I opened the thread I noticed something a tad odd - maybe? - in the WebUI. For the Radio I'm using as an alarm, the REPEAT icon was blue. When I'm just playing various players, I always have REPEAT set to OFF. Is the blueness of the icon activated by my alarm setting, or had I somehow clicked on a troublesome repeat option? AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110274 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarm Stream Switching to Disco at the Same Time Every Morning
I know ALARM can be a quirky function; and I know using a radio stream as the alarm adds to that quirkiness. However: Attached is a log of what is odd behavior on a Radio every morning for the past few days. Essentially, I go to sleep with a BBC R3 stream from LMS until SLEEP cuts it out at 0230. Then ALARM is set for 0730, running a BBC R4 stream (i.e. runs until manually stopped). Almost always works fine **Until 0817 every morning**, when it switches to the Disco Blast (which at least now runs quietly, since finding that useful Reduce Volume patch). Ideas welcome. +---+ |Filename: Server Log A.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26891| +---+ AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110274 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarm didn't go off!
bpa wrote: > Never rely on just playing an internet stream for an alarm - there are > too many variables that can go wrong. I'm going through a phase of my Radio not picked up my preferred alarm (a BBC radio internet stream.) and launching loud disco music. So far as I can tell - browsing years of forum discussions of this - there is no simple way of changing that default music to something more soothing... But, I did find this thread - https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?77403-Workaround-for-too-loud-fallback-alarm-change-volume/page2 - which offers an easy way of at least greatly reducing the *volume* of that default disco when it does kick in. I've installed the patch, and will see over the next few days if it still works or not! As suggested in many threads, my problem seems to be a mix of a) net stream failures, b) occasional home network glitches, and c) perhaps LMS server wake-up issues on the laptop that runs it. Usually the BBC stream plays fine - and, now being retired! - it's not really a major problem for me if it goes off early, late, not at all, or annoyingly. But I'm one of those "stuff should just work" guys, and it is frustrating that the Alarm function is a tad flaky. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109971 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Cannot Set Sleep Timer from LMS for a Player?
Jeff07971 wrote: > Powersave is not a sleep timer its for turning off player after a set > period of inactivity. > > Its (mainly) for people who have power amps controlled by the player. > > Maybe ask mherger if sleep timer can be addded to LMS GUI ? PowerSave has 3 options (as well as 5 or 6 time periods for each option): Off after STOP/PAUSE; Off after STOP; or Off ALWAYS. That last one turns the given player Off after x minutes (from when you check ENABLE for that Player in Settings), whatever it's doing, playing included. So, that last acts as a Sleep timer. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107400 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
