Re: [freenet-support] Not enought entropy on headless system

[Luke771]

't enough entropy available on your system...
 Freenet won't start until it can gather enough.
 
 and stalls forever; the old find trick doesn't work
  either.
 
 I suppose that Freenet uses /dev/random as entropy source;
  can I redirect on urandom ?
 

just do a find /  as freenet loads
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Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

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Matthew Toseland wrote:
 On Monday 09 November 2009 19:41:27 Ichi wrote:
   
 First, I appreciate that Matthew had to ban Toni.  Open discussion
 of Freenet documents is just plain stupid, for obvious reasons.

 Second, I'm sure that Freenet and this list are already illegal in
 many countries. If Freenet ever becomes popular, it will undoubtedly
 become illegal everywhere, more or less.

 With any luck, Freenet will be fully anonymous and secure by then.
 Even now, this support list could be hosted anonymously and securely at
 reasonable cost.

 And BTW, why is Freenet incorporated in the USA, and not somewhere
 with lower legal and political risks?
 

 Such as ...? (That's a serious question as well as a rhetorical one)
   

Some small island nation like Tonga or something?
The Principality of Sealand?
San Marino?

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Re: [freenet-support] connection assistance

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Jonathan Bannister wrote:
 Thank you.  I will think about it some more.

 Best wishes,

 JB
   
 bqz69 пишет:
 
 On Monday 28 September 2009 21.54.52 VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote:
   
 Jonathan Bannister пишет:
 
 Thank you for this sugestion.  I have done this repeatedly, with no
 success.

 I note the following suggestion: it would be a good idea to forward 
 the
 ports 61616 and 27307 (UDP) on your router.  How is this accomplished?
   
 I am using firestarter firewall, and that's where I forward my ports (I 
 am
 using ubuntu linux)
   
 The port may be blocked at any level *before* the firestarter even gets a 
 chance
 to see it. Think of the network connection as a water pipe, if you have 
 several
 volves prior to the one at the tip of the hose closing any single one of 
 them
 will block the flow of water.

 Router is the piece of hardware that takes the traffic it receives from 
 one
 network and sends it to the different network. One of those networks can
 actually be seen as the cloud of the Internet (since it is connected on 
 and on
 with more and more networks). At some point there is a closed port before 
 it
 reaches the internet.

 ISPs sometimes close the ports, and if you have a router in your house, it 
 may
 have come preconfigured to close everything unless told to do otherwise. I
 honestly do not know enough at this point to help you any more... sorry.

   - Volodya

  None of us are free until all of us are free.~ Mihail Bakunin
 ___

 
OK, here's how you forward your ports, nice and easy:


First, let's identify the router
The router is a piece of hardware that looks like a relatively small 
box, it comes in various sizes but the kind used at home is generally 
half the size of a laptop (a big laptop).

The router has a number of ethernet ports, the cables used to connect to 
such ports end in RJ45 connectors that look like a bigger telephone 
jack. Routers often have one or two relatively short and thick antennas, 
sometime they only have ethernet ports. The most common home routers 
have 8 ports but there are much bigger ones.

Your router is placed between your PC and the 'internet outlet' in the 
wall, in the sense that the ethernet cable (internet wire) from the back 
of your computer connects to the router, and the router connects to the 
'internet outlet').
Find the router and note its brand and model.
If you use a wireless connection, the router will only have a cable to 
the wall outlet and not to the PC, but it can be easily identified 
anyway: it's the box that must stay turned on, or your internet dies :P
Physically locating your router is useful if you don't have a manual.



The web interface

If you happen to have a manual for your router, find out how to access 
the web interface. If you don't have a manual go to the manufacturer's 
web page (hint: www.brandname.com ), look for your model and find the 
information.
Generally, the web interface is found at the router's IP address on port 
80, that means: if your router's IP is 10.0.0.1, you will probably find 
the web interface pointing a web browser to http://10.0.0.1

In some cases the web interface is on a different port rather than the 
default http port 80. If that's the case use :port# at the end of the IP 
address, example http://10.0.0.1:8800 if the port is 8800.




Finding out your router's IP

To figure out where to point your web browser, do the follwoing:
On Windows: open a cmd shell (start  run  (type) cmd [enter] ) and 
type 'ipconfig /all' (no quotes)
On Linux, and other *nix (probably even Mac): open a terminal and type 
'ifconfig -a'

That will give you your own IP address. Your router is probably in the 
same range at -0 or -1, e.g. if your IP address is 10.0.0.137 your 
router is probably (but not always) at 10.0.0.0 or 10.0.0.1 (if this 
doesnt help, google probably will)




Forwarding ports

Web interfaces don't look all exactly the same so I can't walk you 
through the whole procedure, but with help of your manual or the 
manufacturer's website (and Google) you should be able to figure out 
what to do as long as you know exactly what you want to accomplpish, 
which in our case is:

* Forward port (number/s) FROM (the router's IP) = TO (the PC's IP) for 
protocol UDP *

...which is pretty much all what this quick guide boils down to.
The 'protocol UDP' thing means that you only need to select UDP and not TCP.
Hope this helps.

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Re: [freenet-support] installation

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John Baxter wrote:
 yes, I dont want this program anymore. how do I uninstall it? please 
 respond soon
On Windows:  control panel = add/remove programs

On Mac, Ubuntu, and other Unix-based systems: There should be an 
uninstaller  program that uses the 'next-next-next-finish' procedure, 
stored in a sub-directory of .../freenet/, called 'uninstaller'.
If you dont find the uninstaller (e.g. if it wasnt included when you 
installed Freenet), you can just remove the whole Freenet directory.

Just out of curiosity, may I ask why you're uninstalling?
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Re: [freenet-support] How to configure Freenet on a headless install?

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freenet.me...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
 I'm trying to get Freenet running on my server.  I follow the
 instructions here:

 http://freenetproject.org/download.html#unix

 After installation, of course I need to access the web interface over
 the Internet (actually, over a VPN).  There's a link at Read the FAQ on
 how to enable web-access from a remote computer.  The link is broken,
 there is in fact no such FAQ.  This is bad.

 I figured out how to manually edit freenet.ini after googling up this:

 http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/2008-March/001727.html

   

fproxy.allowedHosts= #gives 'dumb user access'

fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess= #gives full access (you need the 
above too... I guess)

fcp.allowedHosts=  #allows connections from remote fcp clients, e.g. 
Frost, Thaw, jSite, etc.

However, I don't know if that's a good thing to do over the internet. On 
a LAN, it's OK but maybe over the internet you want to use ssh as 
suggested by Artefact2

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet inside LAN

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Evan Daniel wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:14 PM, David R.ellimi...@gmail.com wrote:
   

 On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Alex Pyattaevalex.pyatt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   
 On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 6:40 AM, David R. ellimi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've just found Freenet, and it looks really great.  I've always
 considered freedom of speech pretty much the most important thing you
 can
 have, so I love what this is doing.  Anyway, I've had what seems to be
 a
 good idea - set up people at my school to use freenet.  I'm planning to
 bundle it with a few other apps (tor, firefox+privacy addons, utorrent,
 etc)
 and let people download it and put it on their flash drives, and run it
 whenever they get on a school computer.  As they did this, they'd
 connect to
 a mini-freenet (darknet of course), within the school.  The main
 problem
 I've got here is that freenet doesn't work over LAN, or at least I
 can't
 figure out how to make it do so.  I don't want one computer on freenet,
 and
 the others running a browser pointed to 192.168.1.X.  I want to set up
 a
 darknet composed of computers within the same LAN.

 If anyone knows how I could do this, or could suggest another way to do
 it  (I tried WASTE, and couldnt get it going either) I would very much
 appreciate it.

 Thanks,
 Ellimistd


   
 The Freenet program has no idea if an IP address is a LAN or WAN
 address.
 Because it can not know your exact network settings. The only thing it
 does
 is sending packets to other IP addresses. Your users should always point
 their browsers to 127.0.0.1, not external IP address, since fproxy binds
 to
 loopback interface, not external interfaces, otherwise it would require
 authentification to connect to the node. When you get 3-4 nodes up 
 running, you can try to connect them by exchanging noderefs. to do all
 this
 in pure darknet (without access to internet) just remove seednodes.fref
 file
 in freenet's root directory. You may put it back when you decide to use
 opennet. However, since you use LAN, you should probably not use opennet
 connections, since it is WERY easy to find out that you run freenet when
 you
 do so. Hope this helps.
 
 No need to delete the seednodes file.  Just turn off opennet on the
 config screen.

 Running opennet on the LAN should work just fine, with no more
 security issues than running opennet anywhere else.

 I've run two nodes on the same LAN; it doesn't require any special
 configuration.  I just turned on opennet on both, then exchanged
 darknet refs, and they connected over the LAN and connected to the
 outside world, and it all just worked.

 Evan Daniel
 ___
   
 ___
 Exellent, it works perfectly (in my test, at least.  I have yet to try it
 for for it's real purpose).  I don't know why it didn't before, but
 whatever.  Still, I may have another problem - is freenet portable?  If I
 run the installer to install to a flash drive, put firefox-portable on that
 drive, write a batch script to start freenet and open firefox to
 127.0.0.1:, will it work on another computer?  (assuming that computer
 has java).   It doesn't seem like freenet would _need_ any registry entries
 to function, but I'd like to be sure, and i'm not certain I'd catch
 everything if I did it myself.

 -Ellimistd

 

 Yes and no.  It will run just fine, however you'll lose things like
 the automatic start at bootup.  Also, Freenet is not expected to work
 well with low uptime; it really, really wants to run 24x7 or close to
 it.  Connecting for a couple hours a day won't work nearly as well.
 Also, I highly recommend using a data store of several GB, which is
 getting large by flash drive standards.

 Evan Daniel

   
(top posting corrected)

I think that one very important detail has been missed here. As I 
understand, the idea is to have a bunch of applications on an USB stick, 
including Freenet.

Now, while it is true that Freenet will run on any computer that has a 
compatible JRE installed, on the other hand Freenet is not that kind 
of application. It won't work well if you start Freenet, access a 
freesite or two, download a file, and shut down right away.
Freenet needs to keep running as long as possible, ideally 24/7. It is 
possible (I'd say even probable... but I don't really know) that running 
a mini-freenet that is disconnected from the Freenet network, single 
nodes may work well with less uptime/day, but that's a wild guess.

Besides if ONE of those users decided to connect to the main network 
(e.g. using Opennet, or exchanging darknet refs with a user outside of 
the school) the whole mini-freenet' would become a part of the freenet 
network, which on one hand is all about freedom of speech and all these 
noce things but on the other hand it's as good as guaranteed that some 
parents 

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

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Alex Pyattaev wrote:
 You know, I do think that freenet is a good idea. And in fact, until 
 freenet users will consume too much traffic, i'm not going to ban 
 them. Because i don't want to. In fact, right now 100.0% of major 
 traffic consumers are using *other* P2P networks. Mostly torrents, 
 some use mule  DC, but they are much less pain - DC-like protocols 
 never utilize 100% bandwidth due to long periods when noone is 
 leeching from you. So the upload traffic is poorly utilized, and 
 downloads are not so fast due to lack of seeders. So the major problem 
 is torrent, which is extremely easy to detect and ban. And I like the 
 idea. As of freenet, my interest is pure theory right now, since 
 freenet users just don't bother be.

If you like Freenet (cool that you do!) you could help the project: try 
to catch Freenet users on your network and report the results here, so 
developers would get valuable info.
If you do catch someone, you could even (anonymously?) help him set up a 
more secure node, and then try to catch him again.

The only problem that I can see here (and it may be kind of serious) 
would be: what if your bosses realize that you use resources, work 
hours, etc to catch Freenet users, and then you don't actually ban them? 
If you don't have a good excuse for that, may be better just forget the 
whole idea.
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Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

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Alex Pyattaev wrote:
 I'm a system administrator of a private home network, providing 
 internet to subscribers via ethernet. The corporate policy prohibits 
 the use of ANY p2p network by subscribers. The question is - is it 
 possible to detect freenet nodes on my LAN? I could indeed use 
 connection statistics, but this is not too useful. AFAIK, it is much 
 harder to detect those who contact friends only, but what about 
 others? I suppose the only real way is to have my own client and use 
 it to get IP's to ban...
 However, the boss does not care about technical issues. 
 Thanks for your help. 

If you do detect any nodes, pleaser tell us because that would mean that 
Freenet must be fixed.
thanks for your help.

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Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

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Alex Pyattaev wrote:
 Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that 
 try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed 
 tell you. Hope I'll ban some nasty users before you make a patch, so 
 that I can sleep well knowing that my bosses will never know about the 
 freenet users in the LAN=)

What you're doing here is catching Opennet users. Pure Darknet users 
wont be that easy to catch.
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Re: [freenet-support] configuation

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W B wrote:
 Installed Freenet but the configuation page is in other than English.
   

Edit freenet.ini, set /node.l10n=English/ and restart the node.
that should fix it.

But before you do that, please get some info for our developers, so they 
can try and figure out what happened and avoid that it happens again.
Please make a copy of your /conf.ini/ file (before you edit it, of 
course) and send it here. Conf.ini is located in your Freenet directory
Also, it would be nice to know what OS you're running and what's the 
system locale.
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Re: [freenet-support] Assistance

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Kathryn A. Graham wrote:
 Hello, all,

 I would like to request some assistance.  I am a writer working on a
 book on cyber-security.  This led me to Freenet and the concept of a
 Darknet.
   

snip

1st, im not a Freenet developer but only an old time user. Thought you 
should know.

I write a freesite that is specifically aimed at new users, the idea is 
to have a one-site Freenet resource where newbies can find out what 
Freenet can do and how to do it (basic tutorials).  It's a long way from 
completed but it does include some usable info.

It's called FAFS - the Freenet Applications FreeSites and it's linked in 
the FProxy default bookmarks.
There you should find most of the basic info and figure out where to go 
to get more detailed info.
 Freemail appears to be working for me, but I can't receive messages,
 either to my long real address, or to the shorter address I created.
   

Freemail is horribly buggy. Some say that 'it works on odd tuesdays if 
the date sums up to a multiple of 7'


 I also have FMS
 installed and running, but I can't seem to announce my identity.  It's
 been several days, and I have yet to receive a single captcha to
 complete.  
If I was still using FMS, I would bootstrap your ID adding each other as 
peers manually. But I'm not using FMS and neither are ... pretty much 
anyone.
FMS was a proof of concept for the WoT (web of trust)  which IMHO failed 
miserably at the 'jerk test' (people abuse the WoT to try and censor 
'immoral' users, instead of using it for what it's designed to do).
In addition, FMS was never actually subjected to flood attacks trying to 
DoS it, so we dont 'really' know if the WoT would actually do the job 
that it's supposed to do.

However, it seems that ATM there isnt any feasible alternative to WoT, 
so it's been decided to use WoT for the next official Freenet messaging 
system, which is called Freetalk and will be bundled with Freenet 0.8 
when it's released in a few months.
You can run Freetalk loading the Freetalk and WoT  plugins manually 
(downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/plugins/ ...something)

Anyhow, see FAFS for more info about FMS (if you really want to use 
that), Freetalk, and Frost =try this


Short version:
Basically, all I've said is to have a look at FAFS for basic info about 
Freenet, don;t run FMS (no-one uses it anyway) but stick to Frost and 
possibly test Freetalk, and Freemail is buggy.

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Re: [freenet-support] freenet fails to run 3

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Egbert van der Meer wrote:
 At the moment I am connected to 11 peers.
 Not only all the index pages failed to load but also my home page is 
 not correctly loaded.
 I.e.non of the pictures of the bookmarks apear.
 Also the index page I am trying to download does not refresch every 
 two seconds as usual.
 This as some aditional information about wat is (not) going on here...
 From this and also your last e-mail, looks to me like it's working. Let 
the node run as much as possible, ideally 24/7. Performance gets better 
with time.

Pictures on the bookmarks not showing up, I guess you mean activelinks? 
those small pictures by the side of each Freenet bookmark on the 'Browse 
Freenet' page?
Sometimes it takes time for those to load.
One of the major problems with Freenet is to get used to its speed (i.e. 
lack of thereof). Suggestion: open links in background tabs and read 
something else while they load.

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[freenet-support] freenet doesnt work (moved from @chat)

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Alan Grimes wrote:
 I had wanted a freenode for a long long time.

 Then I finally got a place of my own.

 So I set up my node on my athlon 800..

 and it just sat there.
 and collected data,

 and then I tried to do some browsing,

 and performance was always horrible.

 And I left it running for a few weeks...

 Finally, I decided I needed the bandwidth for something useful. =\

 Freenet is a great concept, I just wish it worked. =(
   
Works for me.
I can browse freesites, download/upload files, participate in 
usenet-like discussions...
try again, post your results, check out the freenet irc channel at 
irc.freenode.net #freenet
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Re: [freenet-support] Freemail plugin problem - NullPointerException

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Prawda2 wrote:
 Hi,

 I posted it recently but nobody has answered and since I don't receive
 my own posts I cannot reply.
 Let me create a new thread though - maybe this time someone will help.
 It's the last try - I promise :)

 Anyway,
 Please help me to solve the issue that I have with the Freemail
 plugin. I want to try freemail, but now I am not able to do so.

 The problem is that whenever I try to install the plugin (i,e. via the
 Load Official Plugin in the config page) the jar file gets
 downloaded and is put to the plugin folder, but immediately after that
 the browser's page turns into such an error:

 Internal error: please report

   
I cant help you with the error but in the meantime, if you want to try 
freemail you could try downloading the .jar and load it locally using 
the 'unofficial plugin' interface, or executing the .jar as standalone 
with java -jar.

More details about this stuff are available on the FAFS freesite, it's 
linked in the default bookmarks. Look at the Freemail page, but also the 
FProxy page for 'loading plugins manually. The site is still a bit 
messy, I'm trying to make it better. There is some valuable info in it, 
anyway.

Also, how to execute and control the freemail.jar from a terminal (both 
*nix terminals and windows' cmd shells work the same way in this case), 
all the info you need is in the README file in the freemail directory at 
downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/somewhere

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Re: [freenet-support] Problems with opening the browser

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Edward Langenback wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA256

 Walker Bohannan wrote:
   
 Dear Support,

 I recently downloaded and installed Freenet 0.7 so I can access  
 certain sites on my laptop at school to do research for a paper we're  
 doing
 

 That reads to me like you're trying to use Freenet as a proxy to regular
 internet sites.  Freenet will only connect you to sites hosted *within*
 freenet, NOT regular internet sites.

   
If what you want to do is anonymously access web content, you should use 
Tor or i2p.
Freenet doesnt do that.
On the other hand, Freenet offers features that aren't available on any 
other anonymous network; so it may be a good idea to explore it and see 
what it has to offer.
Have a look at 'FAFS - the Freenet Applications FreeSite' for a some 
basic info and howtos (FAFS is linked in the default bookmarks list 
available on FProxy, the Freenet web interface.


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Re: [freenet-support] Auto-update key blown according to 1 peer(s)!

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Peter J. wrote:
 On Monday 25 May 2009 07:28:33 3BUIb3S50i 3BUIb3S50i wrote:
  I also have the same message with another IP.
 
 
  On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:26 AM, SmallSister development 
 
  smallsis...@xs4all.nl wrote:
   theymos wrote:
I just got this message. What do I do?
   
Auto-update key blown according to 1 peer(s)!
   


 snip


 Yeah got the same message, 1 ip reports that the auto-update key is blown.
 Ip is in the range of 193.11.208.0/24. Some Student network in Goteborg.


 Freenet 0.7 Build #1210 build01210
 Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771


wild guess: someone played with his node to make it send that 
announcement but the key was wrong because he didnt actually have it.
now why would anyone do something like this? to see where the reports 
come from?

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Re: [freenet-support] Darknet

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3BUIb3S50i 3BUIb3S50i wrote:
 Can I use an old reference Darknet (file node-port) when I reinstall 
 the node to avoid losing the connection with my friends?
   

yes but you also need the file peers-port
IIUC node-port is your node and peers-port  is your darnet peers' info.
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[freenet-support] Please answer a quick survey on Freenet

[Luke771]

Matthew Toseland wrote:
> 
> Additional useful info, if you don't mind parting with it:
> Network, friends and physical security levels.
>   
>   
Missed that one.
here it goes:

Protection against a stranger attacking you over the Internet: HIGH
Protection if your friends attack your anonymity: LOW
Protection if your computer is seized or stolen: NORMAL

[freenet-support] Please answer a quick survey on Freenet

[Luke771]

Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Friday 08 May 2009 09:11:01 Luke771 wrote:
>   
>> Matthew Toseland wrote:
>> 
>>> What OS do you use for Freenet?
>>>   
>>>   
>> ubuntu 9.10 x86 desktop with sun java6
>> 
>>> What is your current datastore size set to?
>>>   
>>>   
>> dedicated freenet disk 500gb, datastore set to 385GiB
>> 
>>> What is your output bandwidth limit set to?
>>>   
>>>   
>> 1MiB/s in
>> 1MiB/s out
>>
>> 
>>> What actual bandwidth usage do you typically get?
>>>   
>>>   
>> between 15 ~ 20 KiB/s in each direction
>> 
>
> If you have an 8M symmetric connection, then why do you get such a low 
> typical 
> transfer rate?
>   
No idea.
My connection is nominally 10Mbit/s symmetrical but actually somewhat 
less than that, I upload and download stuff (including large files) at 
over 600kB/s easily, sometimes over 900kB/s and occasionally over 1mB/s.

I thought that BitTorrent may be limiting the bandwidth left for Freenet 
so I limited the BT bandwidth to 500kB/s symmetrical but Freenet 
bandwidth usage didnt benefit from that.

There is the old and overtalked issue of my ISP not letting me get 
inbound connection unless I pay for it separately at the mobster price 
of ?4 a day but as you know, that shouldn't be a problem as long as my 
peers don't have the same limitation.

I can connect to all of my peers so I assume that they can listen for 
inbound connections (but I did have to give up on trying to connect to 
someone a couple of times in the past because of the no-inbounds thing :/)

So what could the problem be? Limited peers' bandwidth? At least some of 
them have extremely good connections, I guess I should get better 
bandwidth usage when those are connected, but I don't.
All my peers are old, well established nodes, some of them are up 24/7 
and some use both opennet/darknet

Some info about other stuff, for comparison: Non-anonymous apps use at 
least half the 10Mbit/s without problems, and sometimes about 80,85% of 
it. i2p uses between 100 and 150 kB/s on average in each direction with 
max 500kB/s allowed, peaks up to 400+kB/s. I dont run a Tor server 
because of the "evil ISP" problem.



>> Notes:
>> - darknet only
>> - usually 8 through 15 connected peers
>> - node is up virtually 24/7
>> - little use of the node, mostly reading freesites and using frost
>> 
>>> This will help us to make decisions about new performance features ...
>>>   
>>> 
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[freenet-support] newbie question- Freenet doesn't restart with Mac restart

[Luke771]

harry smythe wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
> Please excuse what might seem like a stupid question. I'm just 
> beginning to experiment with Freenet. I could not find this topic in 
> the archives. I have only some limited tech knowledge.
>
>
> specs:
>
> * Freenet 0.7 Build #1209 rbuild01209-real
>
> * Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771
>
> # JVM Version: 1.5.0_16-132
>
> # OS Name: Mac OS X
>
> # OS Version: 10.4.11
>
> # OS Architecture: i386
>
>
> I install with the web installer for Mac on the freenetproject.org 
> page. I choose the autostart option. A browser launches and all works 
> well. No shortcut to Freenet is installed on my desktop (as was the 
> case on previous explorations some years ago on a Win2000 machine.)
>
>
> However, if I shut down or have to restart my machine or node for any 
> reason, no browser (I use Firefox 3.0.5) can access fproxy with 
> 127.0.0.1:. That page is "unavailable".
>
>
> I'd rather not have to re-install and rebuild the datastore every 
> time.  Is there some way to manually start/restart Freenet? (I assume 
> that "start" means to connect to some nodes, but I'm not sure.)
>
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
> NewbieHarry
>
>
I never used Freenet on a Mac but I heard that behind its peculiar GUI 
it's very similar to other Unix-based systems, therefore the way 
start/stop/restart Freenet manually would be:

- Open a terminal (/Apps/Terminal.app or something like that IIRC)
- Navigate to the Freenet directory: type "cd /path/to/Freenet" (no 
quotes) where /path/to/Freenet is the actual path to your Freenet 
directory (it should default  to /Users//Freenet or 
something similar). Hit Enter to execute the command.
- Type the command "./run.sh start" (no quotes) and hit Enter. That 
should start Freenet.
To stop: ./run.sh stop
To restart: ./run.sh restart

Double check that the Freenet directory is owned by your user and that 
the startup script (run.sh) is executable.

Command to change ownership for the directory and all its content (as 
root) "chown  /path/to/Freenet -R" (no quotes)
Chown = change ownership.  is the user name that you use 
to log in, /path/to/Freenet is the path to the freenet directory. (I'm 
not sure but I suspect that OSX, as other Unix-based OSs, may be 
case-sensitive: make sure you type stuff in the right case: the Freenet 
directory has by default a capital F in the name)
-R stands for "recurse" into subdirectories.

Command to make run.sh executable (no need to run this as root, as long 
as your regular users owns the Freenet directory and all its content) 
"chmod +x run.sh" (no quotes)
+x  =  allow execute
-x = disallow execute

As for autostart, I don't know what scheduler OSX uses or how to 
add/remove startup jobs. If you can find out with Google, you can 
probably add start Freenet with "/path/to/Freenet/run.sh start" (no 
quotes, as usual)

Sorry I cant give you a complete answer because I don't have a Mac at 
hands and it was quite some time ago since I even saw one, hopefully 
some Mac user will jump in and fill the parts that I left out.

Re: [freenet-support] newbie question- Freenet doesn't restart with Mac restart

[Luke771]

harry smythe wrote:

 Hi All,


 Please excuse what might seem like a stupid question. I'm just 
 beginning to experiment with Freenet. I could not find this topic in 
 the archives. I have only some limited tech knowledge.


 specs:

 * Freenet 0.7 Build #1209 rbuild01209-real

 * Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771

 # JVM Version: 1.5.0_16-132

 # OS Name: Mac OS X

 # OS Version: 10.4.11

 # OS Architecture: i386


 I install with the web installer for Mac on the freenetproject.org 
 page. I choose the autostart option. A browser launches and all works 
 well. No shortcut to Freenet is installed on my desktop (as was the 
 case on previous explorations some years ago on a Win2000 machine.)


 However, if I shut down or have to restart my machine or node for any 
 reason, no browser (I use Firefox 3.0.5) can access fproxy with 
 127.0.0.1:. That page is unavailable.


 I'd rather not have to re-install and rebuild the datastore every 
 time.  Is there some way to manually start/restart Freenet? (I assume 
 that start means to connect to some nodes, but I'm not sure.)


 Many thanks.


 NewbieHarry


I never used Freenet on a Mac but I heard that behind its peculiar GUI 
it's very similar to other Unix-based systems, therefore the way 
start/stop/restart Freenet manually would be:

- Open a terminal (/Apps/Terminal.app or something like that IIRC)
- Navigate to the Freenet directory: type cd /path/to/Freenet (no 
quotes) where /path/to/Freenet is the actual path to your Freenet 
directory (it should default  to /Users/your-user-name/Freenet or 
something similar). Hit Enter to execute the command.
- Type the command ./run.sh start (no quotes) and hit Enter. That 
should start Freenet.
To stop: ./run.sh stop
To restart: ./run.sh restart

Double check that the Freenet directory is owned by your user and that 
the startup script (run.sh) is executable.

Command to change ownership for the directory and all its content (as 
root) chown your-user-name /path/to/Freenet -R (no quotes)
Chown = change ownership. your-user-name is the user name that you use 
to log in, /path/to/Freenet is the path to the freenet directory. (I'm 
not sure but I suspect that OSX, as other Unix-based OSs, may be 
case-sensitive: make sure you type stuff in the right case: the Freenet 
directory has by default a capital F in the name)
-R stands for recurse into subdirectories.

Command to make run.sh executable (no need to run this as root, as long 
as your regular users owns the Freenet directory and all its content) 
chmod +x run.sh (no quotes)
+x  =  allow execute
-x = disallow execute

As for autostart, I don't know what scheduler OSX uses or how to 
add/remove startup jobs. If you can find out with Google, you can 
probably add start Freenet with /path/to/Freenet/run.sh start (no 
quotes, as usual)

Sorry I cant give you a complete answer because I don't have a Mac at 
hands and it was quite some time ago since I even saw one, hopefully 
some Mac user will jump in and fill the parts that I left out.


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Re: [freenet-support] Please answer a quick survey on Freenet

[Luke771]

Matthew Toseland wrote:
 On Friday 08 May 2009 09:11:01 Luke771 wrote:
   
 Matthew Toseland wrote:
 
 What OS do you use for Freenet?
   
   
 ubuntu 9.10 x86 desktop with sun java6
 
 What is your current datastore size set to?
   
   
 dedicated freenet disk 500gb, datastore set to 385GiB
 
 What is your output bandwidth limit set to?
   
   
 1MiB/s in
 1MiB/s out

 
 What actual bandwidth usage do you typically get?
   
   
 between 15 ~ 20 KiB/s in each direction
 

 If you have an 8M symmetric connection, then why do you get such a low 
 typical 
 transfer rate?
   
No idea.
My connection is nominally 10Mbit/s symmetrical but actually somewhat 
less than that, I upload and download stuff (including large files) at 
over 600kB/s easily, sometimes over 900kB/s and occasionally over 1mB/s.

I thought that BitTorrent may be limiting the bandwidth left for Freenet 
so I limited the BT bandwidth to 500kB/s symmetrical but Freenet 
bandwidth usage didnt benefit from that.

There is the old and overtalked issue of my ISP not letting me get 
inbound connection unless I pay for it separately at the mobster price 
of €4 a day but as you know, that shouldn't be a problem as long as my 
peers don't have the same limitation.

I can connect to all of my peers so I assume that they can listen for 
inbound connections (but I did have to give up on trying to connect to 
someone a couple of times in the past because of the no-inbounds thing :/)

So what could the problem be? Limited peers' bandwidth? At least some of 
them have extremely good connections, I guess I should get better 
bandwidth usage when those are connected, but I don't.
All my peers are old, well established nodes, some of them are up 24/7 
and some use both opennet/darknet

Some info about other stuff, for comparison: Non-anonymous apps use at 
least half the 10Mbit/s without problems, and sometimes about 80,85% of 
it. i2p uses between 100 and 150 kB/s on average in each direction with 
max 500kB/s allowed, peaks up to 400+kB/s. I dont run a Tor server 
because of the evil ISP problem.



 Notes:
 - darknet only
 - usually 8 through 15 connected peers
 - node is up virtually 24/7
 - little use of the node, mostly reading freesites and using frost
 
 This will help us to make decisions about new performance features ...
   
 

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Re: [freenet-support] Please answer a quick survey on Freenet

[Luke771]

Matthew Toseland wrote:
 snip
 Additional useful info, if you don't mind parting with it:
 Network, friends and physical security levels.
   
   
Missed that one.
here it goes:

Protection against a stranger attacking you over the Internet: HIGH
Protection if your friends attack your anonymity: LOW
Protection if your computer is seized or stolen: NORMAL
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[freenet-support] Freenet funding status

[Luke771]

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:21:01 -0500
Ian Clarke  wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> As you can see looking at the website, the project can afford to pay for
> Matthew for only another 25 days.  



> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ian.
> 



Forwarded to Frost, Freenet board.
NOT forwarded to FMS

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet funding status

[Luke771]

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:21:01 -0500
Ian Clarke ian.cla...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all,
 
 As you can see looking at the website, the project can afford to pay for
 Matthew for only another 25 days.  

snip

 
 Thanks,
 
 Ian.
 

sig snip

Forwarded to Frost, Freenet board.
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[freenet-support] How to remove an opennet peer?

[Luke771]

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:57:27 +0100
SmallSister development  wrote:

> Luke771 wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:42:46 -0500
> > Dennis Nezic  wrote:
> > 
> >> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:45:29 +0100, SmallSister development wrote:
> >>> I get the error message:
> >>>> One or more of your node's peers have never connected in the two
> >>>> weeks since they were added. Consider removing them since they are
> >>>> marginally affecting performance (wasting packets talking to nodes
> >>>> that aren't there).
> >>> A quick investigation identified the culprit: an ipv6-only opnennet
> >>> peer. How do I get it off the list? (I am perfectly willing to ignore
> >>> it, it doesn't seem to do much harm.)
> >>>
> >>> Yes, my Linux boxen have ipv6 support, but that isn't configured nor
> >>> routed.
> >> An iptables DROP rule to filter that ip address? :b
> > 
> > Edit openpeers-<port#> and delete the culprit.
> > You may need to add a firewall rule to prevent the same IP from being 
> > re-added
> > (stop freenet, edit file, add firewall rule, start freenet)
> > 
> Can you tell me what ipv4 address to block? The ipv6 address that the
> peer advertises is not routed.
> 

No idea, sorry. I guess it's possible to find out but I have no idea how.


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[freenet-support] How to remove an opennet peer?

[Luke771]

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:42:46 -0500
Dennis Nezic  wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:45:29 +0100, SmallSister development wrote:
> > I get the error message:
> > > One or more of your node's peers have never connected in the two
> > > weeks since they were added. Consider removing them since they are
> > > marginally affecting performance (wasting packets talking to nodes
> > > that aren't there).
> > 
> > A quick investigation identified the culprit: an ipv6-only opnennet
> > peer. How do I get it off the list? (I am perfectly willing to ignore
> > it, it doesn't seem to do much harm.)
> > 
> > Yes, my Linux boxen have ipv6 support, but that isn't configured nor
> > routed.
> 
> An iptables DROP rule to filter that ip address? :b

Edit openpeers- and delete the culprit.
You may need to add a firewall rule to prevent the same IP from being re-added
(stop freenet, edit file, add firewall rule, start freenet)

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Re: [freenet-support] How to remove an opennet peer?

[Luke771]

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:42:46 -0500
Dennis Nezic denn...@dennisn.dyndns.org wrote:

 On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:45:29 +0100, SmallSister development wrote:
  I get the error message:
   One or more of your node's peers have never connected in the two
   weeks since they were added. Consider removing them since they are
   marginally affecting performance (wasting packets talking to nodes
   that aren't there).
  
  A quick investigation identified the culprit: an ipv6-only opnennet
  peer. How do I get it off the list? (I am perfectly willing to ignore
  it, it doesn't seem to do much harm.)
  
  Yes, my Linux boxen have ipv6 support, but that isn't configured nor
  routed.
 
 An iptables DROP rule to filter that ip address? :b

Edit openpeers-port# and delete the culprit.
You may need to add a firewall rule to prevent the same IP from being re-added
(stop freenet, edit file, add firewall rule, start freenet)

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Re: [freenet-support] How to remove an opennet peer?

[Luke771]

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:57:27 +0100
SmallSister development smallsis...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Luke771 wrote:
  On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:42:46 -0500
  Dennis Nezic denn...@dennisn.dyndns.org wrote:
  
  On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:45:29 +0100, SmallSister development wrote:
  I get the error message:
  One or more of your node's peers have never connected in the two
  weeks since they were added. Consider removing them since they are
  marginally affecting performance (wasting packets talking to nodes
  that aren't there).
  A quick investigation identified the culprit: an ipv6-only opnennet
  peer. How do I get it off the list? (I am perfectly willing to ignore
  it, it doesn't seem to do much harm.)
 
  Yes, my Linux boxen have ipv6 support, but that isn't configured nor
  routed.
  An iptables DROP rule to filter that ip address? :b
  
  Edit openpeers-port# and delete the culprit.
  You may need to add a firewall rule to prevent the same IP from being 
  re-added
  (stop freenet, edit file, add firewall rule, start freenet)
  
 Can you tell me what ipv4 address to block? The ipv6 address that the
 peer advertises is not routed.
 

No idea, sorry. I guess it's possible to find out but I have no idea how.


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[freenet-support] Italian user reports 1 peer diconnected for not acking

[Luke771]

An italian user that doesnt speak English asked me to report for him that 1 
peer has been forcibly diconnected for not acking packages for 10 min or more.
His e-mail came from Gigi Puddu basetre at gmail.com and he identified himself 
as someone I helped on #freenet-it some time ago 

I told him that I would send his report so here it is. I also told him not to 
worry about his node, that it would keep working as usual.

the message he got was the Italilan translation of "probable bug, please 
report. 1 of your peers are having severe problems (not acknowledging packets 
even after 10 minutes). This is probably due to a bug in the code. Please 
report it to us at the bug tracker at https://bugs.freenetproject.org/ or to 
the support mailing list support at freenetproject.org. Please include this 
message and what version of the node you are running. 

The guy didn't include the release # in his e-mail, only that he's running 
freenet 0.7 (I know he has autoupdate enabled, so it's probably the letest 
stable at the time of this email (12 noon GMT, Wednesday 28)

Luke

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[freenet-support] Italian user reports 1 peer diconnected for not acking

[Luke771]

An italian user that doesnt speak English asked me to report for him that 1 
peer has been forcibly diconnected for not acking packages for 10 min or more.
His e-mail came from Gigi Puddu base...@gmail.com and he identified himself as 
someone I helped on #freenet-it some time ago 

I told him that I would send his report so here it is. I also told him not to 
worry about his node, that it would keep working as usual.

the message he got was the Italilan translation of probable bug, please 
report. 1 of your peers are having severe problems (not acknowledging packets 
even after 10 minutes). This is probably due to a bug in the code. Please 
report it to us at the bug tracker at https://bugs.freenetproject.org/ or to 
the support mailing list supp...@freenetproject.org. Please include this 
message and what version of the node you are running.

The guy didn't include the release # in his e-mail, only that he's running 
freenet 0.7 (I know he has autoupdate enabled, so it's probably the letest 
stable at the time of this email (12 noon GMT, Wednesday 28)

Luke

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[freenet-support] Install?

[Luke771]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:12:01 - (GMT)
mihail at riseup.net wrote:

> I have now found that in the directory 'Users' there is a folder for my
> usual username and also one for 'Freenet' but I can find no icons to click
> on there or any way of switching to that user ...

The Freenet user is limited to running the Freenet service and little more. 
This is a security feature, and it is necessary because the only alternative 
would be to run the freenet service as 'system' and that's BAD.
The Freenet user is a very limited account that isn't supposed to be used as a 
regular user account, therefore it doesn't show up in the 'welcome screen.

Re: [freenet-support] Install?

[Luke771]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:12:01 - (GMT)
mih...@riseup.net wrote:

 I have now found that in the directory 'Users' there is a folder for my
 usual username and also one for 'Freenet' but I can find no icons to click
 on there or any way of switching to that user ...

The Freenet user is limited to running the Freenet service and little more. 
This is a security feature, and it is necessary because the only alternative 
would be to run the freenet service as 'system' and that's BAD.
The Freenet user is a very limited account that isn't supposed to be used as a 
regular user account, therefore it doesn't show up in the 'welcome screen.
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[freenet-support] Concerned about privacy

[Luke771]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:14:09 +0100
Shironeko  wrote:

(...)
> but these IP's are uplookable and can represent a problem for anyone who
> connects from a country like China.

The IP addresses that you see are all from people that don't need to hide the 
fact that they run Freenet. If they needed to keep their nodes secret, they 
would use Darknet and you wouldn't see their IP's.


> Also, I wonder if it would be possible to collect valuable information by
> gathering the LOGs of many different nodes and following a specific IP's
> requests.

It is possible to tell who is running Freenet, as long as they use Opennet 
('connections to Strangers).
If they use only Darknet ('connections to Friends'), telling who is running a 
node is much more difficult.

Also, it is theoretically possible for your peers to use correlation attacks to 
figure out what you download and upload.
Actually proving anything would be very difficult, but some good guesses are 
possible, and in some cases courts can accept good guesses as 'evidence'. Yes, 
in the West too. The 'formerly free' world.

Your only defense is to run a pure darknet node and only connect to people that 
you know and trust, friends that you -know- they wouldn't try to spy on you 
(but they could still be threatened, blackmailed, tortured)

> 
> Finally I'd like to ask you about this message I found in the logs too:
> 
> "Note that this version of Freenet is still a very early alpha, and may well
> have numerous bugs and design flaws.
> In particular: YOU ARE WIDE OPEN TO YOUR IMMEDIATE PEERS! They can eavesdrop
> on your requests with relatively little difficulty at present (correlation
> attacks etc)."
> 
> I suppose that this must be an old message since the Freenet project is not
> in a very early alpha version anymore and I'm using 0.7, the latest.
> 

You suppose wrong. Freenet IS alpha software, and if you bet your life or 
freedom on Freenet you pretty much deserve to get killed or imprisoned.
Of course, Freenete is 'less insecure' than the 'regular' web, but you still 
need to be very, very careful, especially if your opponent has time, money and 
resources -and- they would invest them to get you (in other words, the best 
defense is still not being worth the hassle) 


> Thank you very much.
> 
> Shiro.
>

np-
Luke

> PD. I also wonder where the cached and encrypted files on my HD are
> gathering.
> 

In the Freenet directory, datastore folder, all encrypted.


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Re: [freenet-support] Concerned about privacy

[Luke771]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:14:09 +0100
Shironeko shironeko.pub...@gmail.com wrote:

(...)
 but these IP's are uplookable and can represent a problem for anyone who
 connects from a country like China.

The IP addresses that you see are all from people that don't need to hide the 
fact that they run Freenet. If they needed to keep their nodes secret, they 
would use Darknet and you wouldn't see their IP's.
 

 Also, I wonder if it would be possible to collect valuable information by
 gathering the LOGs of many different nodes and following a specific IP's
 requests.

It is possible to tell who is running Freenet, as long as they use Opennet 
('connections to Strangers).
If they use only Darknet ('connections to Friends'), telling who is running a 
node is much more difficult.

Also, it is theoretically possible for your peers to use correlation attacks to 
figure out what you download and upload.
Actually proving anything would be very difficult, but some good guesses are 
possible, and in some cases courts can accept good guesses as 'evidence'. Yes, 
in the West too. The 'formerly free' world.

Your only defense is to run a pure darknet node and only connect to people that 
you know and trust, friends that you -know- they wouldn't try to spy on you 
(but they could still be threatened, blackmailed, tortured)

 
 Finally I'd like to ask you about this message I found in the logs too:
 
 Note that this version of Freenet is still a very early alpha, and may well
 have numerous bugs and design flaws.
 In particular: YOU ARE WIDE OPEN TO YOUR IMMEDIATE PEERS! They can eavesdrop
 on your requests with relatively little difficulty at present (correlation
 attacks etc).
 
 I suppose that this must be an old message since the Freenet project is not
 in a very early alpha version anymore and I'm using 0.7, the latest.
 

You suppose wrong. Freenet IS alpha software, and if you bet your life or 
freedom on Freenet you pretty much deserve to get killed or imprisoned.
Of course, Freenete is 'less insecure' than the 'regular' web, but you still 
need to be very, very careful, especially if your opponent has time, money and 
resources -and- they would invest them to get you (in other words, the best 
defense is still not being worth the hassle) 


 Thank you very much.
 
 Shiro.


np-
Luke

 PD. I also wonder where the cached and encrypted files on my HD are
 gathering.
 

In the Freenet directory, datastore folder, all encrypted.


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[freenet-support] Freenet and firewall

[Luke771]

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:31:46 +0100
"3BUIb3S50i 3BUIb3S50i" <3buib3s50i at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for your reply.
> 
>  I tried to block all traffic. Everything is blocked, except Freenet and
> TOR.
> 
> I wanted to allow only the IP ranges of some countries. And allow connection
> to seednodes. This is an intermediate solution between darknet and opennet.

No, this is nonsense.
You can run darknet, opennet, or even both side by side, but there's no such 
thing as an 'intermediate solution' The idea of blocking whole countries (based 
on -what? biased information from the propaganda machine?) makes no sense at 
all. Please reconsider your position.

[freenet-support] Freenet and firewall

[Luke771]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:45:49 +0100
"3BUIb3S50i 3BUIb3S50i" <3buib3s50i at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I use the OpenNet mode and I want to use a firewall to block certain IP
> addresses. All traffic is blocked, except for TOR and Freenet which aren't
> blocked by the firewall. Even with a "deny all"! Why? You have an idea?
> 

Because you allowed Freenet and Tor to accept conections from the internet?


If you ran darknet, you could make a firewall rule and allow connections only 
to your manually added Darknet peers ('Friends'), but as long as you run 
Opennet, your node need to be able to communicate to any IP.

You could either use a 'negative' firewall rule like "allow connections on port 
 to everyone  excpet ", or software like PeerGuardian that 
blocks a list of "bad" IP's: you could use that software and replace their "bad 
IP's" list with your own list of IP's you need to block.

Note that the PeerGuardian approach of blocking IP's based on who owns them 
(NSA, etc) is essentially pointless because if the 'bad guys' are going to spy 
on you, they won't do that from secretservices.gov ; they would use apartments 
and connections on private citizens' names.

Anyways, yours is basically a firewall question. Check out your firewall's 
manual, read some forums, use Google, etc., and learn how to make a firewall 
rule to deny access to specific IP's/ranges

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet and firewall

[Luke771]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:45:49 +0100
3BUIb3S50i 3BUIb3S50i 3buib3s...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I use the OpenNet mode and I want to use a firewall to block certain IP
 addresses. All traffic is blocked, except for TOR and Freenet which aren't
 blocked by the firewall. Even with a deny all! Why? You have an idea?
 

Because you allowed Freenet and Tor to accept conections from the internet?


If you ran darknet, you could make a firewall rule and allow connections only 
to your manually added Darknet peers ('Friends'), but as long as you run 
Opennet, your node need to be able to communicate to any IP.

You could either use a 'negative' firewall rule like allow connections on port 
opennet port to everyone  excpet list, or software like PeerGuardian that 
blocks a list of bad IP's: you could use that software and replace their bad 
IP's list with your own list of IP's you need to block.

Note that the PeerGuardian approach of blocking IP's based on who owns them 
(NSA, etc) is essentially pointless because if the 'bad guys' are going to spy 
on you, they won't do that from secretservices.gov ; they would use apartments 
and connections on private citizens' names.

Anyways, yours is basically a firewall question. Check out your firewall's 
manual, read some forums, use Google, etc., and learn how to make a firewall 
rule to deny access to specific IP's/ranges
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[freenet-support] Trouble starting Freenet node

[Luke771]

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:44:10 -0500
Dennis Nezic  wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:29:09 +, Matthew Toseland
>  wrote:
> 
> > If I were to have grounds to believe you were using Freenet - even
> > 0.5 - to pirate music, I'd have to block you in my procmail ...
> > PLEASE DO NOT USE FREENET TO VIOLATE COPYRIGHT LAW ! Per Grokster vs
> > MGM, we cannot provide technical support to known pirates.
> 
> Fortunately freenet is designed precisely to take away any such grounds
> of belief.
> 
> Though, personally, I would actually *encourage* everyone to violate
> copyright law. Since it itself violates the more important
> constitutional law--namely, to paraphrase, our right to freely do
> whatever we want in the dark confined privacy of our bedrooms.

Whatever the personal opinion of the single Freenet developers/contributors 
might be (and we don't want to know), the Freenet Project can't afford legal 
suits from the rich, powerful, and politically tied media industry.

IMHO negative media attention is better than no media attention, but the 
problem is that at least some of those lawsuits will be lost, with many 
financial and legal consequences possibly leading to the project being forcibly 
shut down or bankrupted, or both, leading to the end of the Freenet project. 

Terefore, the official policy of the Freenet project MUST be to heavily 
discourage copyright-infringing use of Freenet and deny support to known 
"pirates" -this last detail is necessary in order to cut any possible legal 
bound that a clever lawyer could try to use in court.

If the Freenet project is sued for copyright infringement, Ian or who ever gets 
to represent the project in court can always claim that official members of the 
Freenet crew adhere to a strict anti-piracy policy, refusing to even *talk* to 
copyright "pirates".

This is a matter of survival, the project must go on and in order to finish the 
job Freenet needs to protect itself from the possibility of law suits.

Re: [freenet-support] Trouble starting Freenet node

[Luke771]

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:44:10 -0500
Dennis Nezic denn...@dennisn.dyndns.org wrote:

 On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:29:09 +, Matthew Toseland
 t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 
  If I were to have grounds to believe you were using Freenet - even
  0.5 - to pirate music, I'd have to block you in my procmail ...
  PLEASE DO NOT USE FREENET TO VIOLATE COPYRIGHT LAW ! Per Grokster vs
  MGM, we cannot provide technical support to known pirates.
 
 Fortunately freenet is designed precisely to take away any such grounds
 of belief.
 
 Though, personally, I would actually *encourage* everyone to violate
 copyright law. Since it itself violates the more important
 constitutional law--namely, to paraphrase, our right to freely do
 whatever we want in the dark confined privacy of our bedrooms.

Whatever the personal opinion of the single Freenet developers/contributors 
might be (and we don't want to know), the Freenet Project can't afford legal 
suits from the rich, powerful, and politically tied media industry.

IMHO negative media attention is better than no media attention, but the 
problem is that at least some of those lawsuits will be lost, with many 
financial and legal consequences possibly leading to the project being forcibly 
shut down or bankrupted, or both, leading to the end of the Freenet project. 

Terefore, the official policy of the Freenet project MUST be to heavily 
discourage copyright-infringing use of Freenet and deny support to known 
pirates -this last detail is necessary in order to cut any possible legal 
bound that a clever lawyer could try to use in court.

If the Freenet project is sued for copyright infringement, Ian or who ever gets 
to represent the project in court can always claim that official members of the 
Freenet crew adhere to a strict anti-piracy policy, refusing to even *talk* to 
copyright pirates.

This is a matter of survival, the project must go on and in order to finish the 
job Freenet needs to protect itself from the possibility of law suits.

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[freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1186

[Luke771]

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:11:07 +0800
"Ronald Wiplinger (Lists)"  wrote:

> How to upgrade?

On Windows:
Click My Computer, Browse to Freenet folder, double click on update.cmd
-or-
Start => (type) cmd [enter] => (type) cd c:\program files\freenet (or wherever 
you installed Freenet)[enter] => (type) update.cmd [enter]

NOTE: If you get 'too many parameters' error, type progra~1 instead of program 
files (cd c:\progra~1\freenet)



On any other OS (including Mac, Ubuntu)
- Open a terminal, cd to the Freenet directory, type ./update.sh ,  hit enter

NOTE: you may need to set execute permission for file update.sh with the 
command chmod +x update.sh


> Automatic upgrade did not work.
> Now it does not even start anymore.

It would be nice to know what happens exactly
Any ERROR lines in wrapper.conf?

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1186

[Luke771]

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:11:07 +0800
Ronald Wiplinger (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How to upgrade?

On Windows:
Click My Computer, Browse to Freenet folder, double click on update.cmd
-or-
Start = (type) cmd [enter] = (type) cd c:\program files\freenet (or wherever 
you installed Freenet)[enter] = (type) update.cmd [enter]

NOTE: If you get 'too many parameters' error, type progra~1 instead of program 
files (cd c:\progra~1\freenet)



On any other OS (including Mac, Ubuntu)
- Open a terminal, cd to the Freenet directory, type ./update.sh ,  hit enter

NOTE: you may need to set execute permission for file update.sh with the 
command chmod +x update.sh

 
 Automatic upgrade did not work.
 Now it does not even start anymore.

It would be nice to know what happens exactly
Any ERROR lines in wrapper.conf?
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[freenet-support] Sorry to have to report bad bug in 1180

[Luke771]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:32:18 -0500
Dennis Nezic  wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:16:21 -0500 (GMT-05:00), vinyl1
>  wrote:
> 
> > Node won't start.  I did a full manual update with update.cmd, same
> > result.   Java stack points to: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> > org/apache/tools/bzip2/CBZip2InputStream.   Here is full output from
> > wrapper log:
> > 
> > WARNING - The Wrapper jar file currently in use is version "3.3.1"
> > while the version of the Wrapper which launched this JVM is "3.2.3".
> 
> That looks strange.
> 
> > freenet.jar built with freenet-ext.jar Build #25 r23741
> > 
> > Initializing Node using Freenet Build #1180 r23746 and freenet-ext
> > Build #22 r22506 with Sun

W4M(tm) [Works Fore Me]

Freenet 0.7 Build 1180 r23747
Freenet-ext Build #25 r23741
Sun Java 6 from repos
Ubuntu 8.10 x86

> 
> And that is simply wrong. freenet-ext (whatever that is) should be at
> #25 now.

That's most likely the problem.
To force the update script to download the latest jar, run update.cmd testing. 

HowTo:
- Open a Cmd shell (the 'DOS window') Start=>Run=>(type) cmd => hit enter
- In the cmd shell, type 'cd C:\Program Files\Freenet' (no quotes) and hit enter
- Now type 'update.cmd testing' (no quotes) - Hit enter

This will update to the latest testing version.
After completing the update, run update.cmd again, but this time do it the 
regular way (no testing) and the node will be reverted back to latest stable 
version.

You may want to run the testing version to help find bugs before they make it 
into the stable release, but if you don't feel like bug-hunting, revert to 
stable.

(in case of problem, an unoffical you-shouldnt-do-that way to get the new 
freenet-ext is to download it off the freenet website and replace the old one 
manually (not recommended. In fact, I shouldnt even suggest it)

[freenet-support] (no subject)

[Luke771]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:33:57 +0100
bqz69  wrote:


> 
> (I am the author of www.minihowto.org, and I have tried to make documentation 
> along your "lines" - it's not very easy?)

LOL you may have recognized the nickname, and possibly the writing style: I am 
the author of FAFS (Freenet Applications FreeSite)
And yes it IS easy: always assume that the reader doesn't know what you're 
talking about, that English is not his native language, that his education is 
below average, and he's a retard. So you get relatively few 'could you explain 
a little better...' questions.

Re: [freenet-support] (no subject)

[Luke771]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:33:57 +0100
bqz69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

zn1P
 
 (I am the author of www.minihowto.org, and I have tried to make documentation 
 along your lines - it's not very easy?)

LOL you may have recognized the nickname, and possibly the writing style: I am 
the author of FAFS (Freenet Applications FreeSite)
And yes it IS easy: always assume that the reader doesn't know what you're 
talking about, that English is not his native language, that his education is 
below average, and he's a retard. So you get relatively few 'could you explain 
a little better...' questions.

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Re: [freenet-support] Sorry to have to report bad bug in 1180

[Luke771]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:32:18 -0500
Dennis Nezic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:16:21 -0500 (GMT-05:00), vinyl1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Node won't start.  I did a full manual update with update.cmd, same
  result.   Java stack points to: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
  org/apache/tools/bzip2/CBZip2InputStream.   Here is full output from
  wrapper log:
  
  WARNING - The Wrapper jar file currently in use is version 3.3.1
  while the version of the Wrapper which launched this JVM is 3.2.3.
 
 That looks strange.
 
  freenet.jar built with freenet-ext.jar Build #25 r23741
  
  Initializing Node using Freenet Build #1180 r23746 and freenet-ext
  Build #22 r22506 with Sun

W4M(tm) [Works Fore Me]

Freenet 0.7 Build 1180 r23747
Freenet-ext Build #25 r23741
Sun Java 6 from repos
Ubuntu 8.10 x86

 
 And that is simply wrong. freenet-ext (whatever that is) should be at
 #25 now.

That's most likely the problem.
To force the update script to download the latest jar, run update.cmd testing. 

HowTo:
- Open a Cmd shell (the 'DOS window') Start=Run=(type) cmd = hit enter
- In the cmd shell, type 'cd C:\Program Files\Freenet' (no quotes) and hit enter
- Now type 'update.cmd testing' (no quotes) - Hit enter

This will update to the latest testing version.
After completing the update, run update.cmd again, but this time do it the 
regular way (no testing) and the node will be reverted back to latest stable 
version.

You may want to run the testing version to help find bugs before they make it 
into the stable release, but if you don't feel like bug-hunting, revert to 
stable.

(in case of problem, an unoffical you-shouldnt-do-that way to get the new 
freenet-ext is to download it off the freenet website and replace the old one 
manually (not recommended. In fact, I shouldnt even suggest it)


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[Luke771]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:42:11 + (GMT)
Markus Hahn  wrote:




Sorry if I explain things that you know already, but I don't know what your 
general competence level is, so I'll assume you know very little, just in case 
(and it may be useful for someone else, too)

> I am able to reach and open some of the sites I want to, but frequently I get 
> the message that a site seems to be unreachable, sometimes concerning a site 
> that opens some minutes later.

This is expected on a newly estabilshed node. The first thing to do to get a 
new node to work better is to set the max store size and max memory usage (both 
in your config page at http://localhost:/config).

But first lets talk about uptime quickly: Freenet needs to sun as much as 
possible. The optimal would be to let it run 24/7, but morning to night every 
day is also fairly good. What you DON'T want to do is 'start freenet -  visit 
freesite - shut down freenet'. It won't work. Freesites will take ages to load 
(when they do) and you'll be damaging the netwrotk. Let freenet run as much as 
your computer runs, and if you don't have an always-up box, consider letting 
your computer run just for the sake of freenet. the more Freenet stays up, the 
better your node will work, and themore it will help the network.


Back to configuration; as we said, you should set store size and max memory 
usage to higher values than the defaults.
You may have done that when you went through the Freenet First.time Wizard, but 
if you kept the defaults your store size and memory usage are very low because 
the defaults must work for everyone including users running on a junkware boxes 
in countries where they don't consider 700MhZ and 256MB RAM a low-end machine.

The values are different according to your box and the usage you make of it, 
but the rule of is 'the more the better'. See how much HDD space you can 
dedicate to Freenet and set your store size to that; some have dedicated 
Freenet disks 500GB or 1TB in size, others have 250+ GB freenet stores, but 
50GB is already fairly good. Remember than the bigger the store the better your 
node will work, because more stuff will be cached (encrypted) locally and will 
be fetched way more quickly when request it.

As for max memory usage, you can set this even higher than can afford in 
theory, becuse freenet won't allocate all the memory you give to it. High max 
mem values are needed in my experience because mem usage will peak sometimes 
and if it tries to use more memory than it's allowed to use, the node may crash.
Those who operate machnes with 3 or more GB of RAM are known to set max memory 
usage up to 2GB.
My node runs on box that only has 1GB of RAM, Freenet is set to use max 770MB 
of it, and the node works pretty well.

I used to run nodes on virtual machines with max memory usage set to 256MB and 
they worked pretty well as long as I didn't queue too many or too large files 
for download/upload; therefore, if you are limited by the physical memory 
installed on your box, (for instance you can't set max mem. usage to anything 
higher than 256 or even 128MB) you will have to run few downloads/uploads at a 
time (wait for them to complete, then add more). Remember it's not the number 
of files, it's the total size.

Bandwidth usage settings are kind of relative. If you have a good connection 
(10MB+ high upload BW) you can set your bandwidth usage as high as your total 
bandwidth and freenet will never use but a fraction of that, but if your 
connection is medium-low, you'll need to limit freenet BW usage. In my 
experience trying to help new users get started, I've seen that the difference 
between upload and download bandwidth may be a problem. ISP' tout "high speed 
connections" without ever mentioning anything about upload bandwidth.

As an example, a connection that the ISP refers to as '12Mbit/s' never does 
what the ISP says it should: first of all 12MB/s (1.5MB/s) is a nominal value, 
the actual bandwidth rarely exceeds 2/3 of the nominal value stated by ISP 
(more often half of it), and most importnat, the higghly publicized 12Mbit/s is 
only the download bandwidth. They never say anything about upload speed. If 
you're lucky you have 2Mbit/s but ,more often 1Mbit/s fot 'high speed' 
connections and 512 or 256 Kbit/s for medium range connections.

So, the point is, find out what your -upload- stream in KB/s is (find out what 
your ISP say your upstream is, then divide by 8 to get bytes; ISP's always talk 
about bits). Decide how much bandwidth you can afford to give freenet in upload 
and set that value under max bandwidth usage in config page. As for download 
bandwidth you may want to keep the defult -1, meaning 4x the upstream. If you 
are one of the few lucky that have high upload bandwidths (as high as 
download), you may want to set the same value for both upload and download.


> I am totally new in this subject and all my real-world-friends are no-techies 
> and no-nerds, so I still 

Re: [freenet-support] (no subject)

[Luke771]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:42:11 + (GMT)
Markus Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip


Sorry if I explain things that you know already, but I don't know what your 
general competence level is, so I'll assume you know very little, just in case 
(and it may be useful for someone else, too)

 I am able to reach and open some of the sites I want to, but frequently I get 
 the message that a site seems to be unreachable, sometimes concerning a site 
 that opens some minutes later.

This is expected on a newly estabilshed node. The first thing to do to get a 
new node to work better is to set the max store size and max memory usage (both 
in your config page at http://localhost:/config).

But first lets talk about uptime quickly: Freenet needs to sun as much as 
possible. The optimal would be to let it run 24/7, but morning to night every 
day is also fairly good. What you DON'T want to do is 'start freenet -  visit 
freesite - shut down freenet'. It won't work. Freesites will take ages to load 
(when they do) and you'll be damaging the netwrotk. Let freenet run as much as 
your computer runs, and if you don't have an always-up box, consider letting 
your computer run just for the sake of freenet. the more Freenet stays up, the 
better your node will work, and themore it will help the network.


Back to configuration; as we said, you should set store size and max memory 
usage to higher values than the defaults.
You may have done that when you went through the Freenet First.time Wizard, but 
if you kept the defaults your store size and memory usage are very low because 
the defaults must work for everyone including users running on a junkware boxes 
in countries where they don't consider 700MhZ and 256MB RAM a low-end machine.

The values are different according to your box and the usage you make of it, 
but the rule of is 'the more the better'. See how much HDD space you can 
dedicate to Freenet and set your store size to that; some have dedicated 
Freenet disks 500GB or 1TB in size, others have 250+ GB freenet stores, but 
50GB is already fairly good. Remember than the bigger the store the better your 
node will work, because more stuff will be cached (encrypted) locally and will 
be fetched way more quickly when request it.

As for max memory usage, you can set this even higher than can afford in 
theory, becuse freenet won't allocate all the memory you give to it. High max 
mem values are needed in my experience because mem usage will peak sometimes 
and if it tries to use more memory than it's allowed to use, the node may crash.
Those who operate machnes with 3 or more GB of RAM are known to set max memory 
usage up to 2GB.
My node runs on box that only has 1GB of RAM, Freenet is set to use max 770MB 
of it, and the node works pretty well.

I used to run nodes on virtual machines with max memory usage set to 256MB and 
they worked pretty well as long as I didn't queue too many or too large files 
for download/upload; therefore, if you are limited by the physical memory 
installed on your box, (for instance you can't set max mem. usage to anything 
higher than 256 or even 128MB) you will have to run few downloads/uploads at a 
time (wait for them to complete, then add more). Remember it's not the number 
of files, it's the total size.

Bandwidth usage settings are kind of relative. If you have a good connection 
(10MB+ high upload BW) you can set your bandwidth usage as high as your total 
bandwidth and freenet will never use but a fraction of that, but if your 
connection is medium-low, you'll need to limit freenet BW usage. In my 
experience trying to help new users get started, I've seen that the difference 
between upload and download bandwidth may be a problem. ISP' tout high speed 
connections without ever mentioning anything about upload bandwidth.

As an example, a connection that the ISP refers to as '12Mbit/s' never does 
what the ISP says it should: first of all 12MB/s (1.5MB/s) is a nominal value, 
the actual bandwidth rarely exceeds 2/3 of the nominal value stated by ISP 
(more often half of it), and most importnat, the higghly publicized 12Mbit/s is 
only the download bandwidth. They never say anything about upload speed. If 
you're lucky you have 2Mbit/s but ,more often 1Mbit/s fot 'high speed' 
connections and 512 or 256 Kbit/s for medium range connections.

So, the point is, find out what your -upload- stream in KB/s is (find out what 
your ISP say your upstream is, then divide by 8 to get bytes; ISP's always talk 
about bits). Decide how much bandwidth you can afford to give freenet in upload 
and set that value under max bandwidth usage in config page. As for download 
bandwidth you may want to keep the defult -1, meaning 4x the upstream. If you 
are one of the few lucky that have high upload bandwidths (as high as 
download), you may want to set the same value for both upload and download.


 I am totally new in this subject and all my real-world-friends are no-techies 
 and no-nerds, 

[freenet-support] Ports to forward, hostname (dyndns)

[Luke771]

On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:09:49 +0100
"Level 13"  wrote:

> Is it enough to portforward listen-port and opennet-listen-port on
> your NAT router in order for a 0.7 node to work properly

Yes it's enough.

>(so two ports
> here as opposed to one port in 0.5)? 

One port if you only run Darknet or Opennet, or two ports of you run both. 
Another major difference with 0.5, besides the switch to UDP and the 
introduction of Darknet among other things, is that Freenet 0.7 does work even 
for users that for one or another reason can't forward any ports (for instance, 
those who can't access the router). These users can't connect to each other but 
they can still connect to anyone who can forward a port, so Freenet will work 
for them, as opposed to 0.5 where they could only load a bunch of extremely 
popular freesite.

>How about the dyndns hostname,
> where do you have to put it (that is, if this function is still the
> same as it was on 0.5, so if you have a dynamic IP you can use a
> dyndns hostname)?

You paste your dyndns address in the field marked 'override IP address' in the 
configuration page. 


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[freenet-support] Nearly no content left with correct compression?

[Luke771]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:28:38 +0100
"freenetwork at web.de"  wrote:

> Great! However I thought it would be finished before release of 1166,
> but so I'll wait for 1167+ or fixed trunk.
> 
> Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > It's a bug. It will be fixed before we release the code.
> Great! However I thought it would be finished before release of 1166,
> but so I'll wait for 1167+ or fixed trunk.

Oh. I see this thing has been discussed and solved already. Disregard my 
previous message then (some day I'll learn to read all the messages before 
answering to one)

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[freenet-support] Nearly no content left with correct compression?

[Luke771]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:27:43 +0100
"freenetwork at web.de"  wrote:


> 
> bqz69 wrote:
> > You must upgrade to 1166, which was released yesterday.
> > ***
> >

[top posting corrected]
> I have. With the results shown below... so I downgraded again to
> 1165+minors.

Now re-upgrade again or your node will soon disconnect from all peers because 
they're 'too new'. Bugs will be fixed if we run bugged versions and report 
them, but if we all stay on the last version that seemed to work fairly well, 
Freenet will never get to 1.0
Remember that this is not an utility that is supposed to be stable and rliable, 
it's an alpha that needs testing and bug reposting -lots of that.

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Re: [freenet-support] Nearly no content left with correct compression?

[Luke771]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:27:43 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 bqz69 wrote:
  You must upgrade to 1166, which was released yesterday.
  ***
 

[top posting corrected]
 I have. With the results shown below... so I downgraded again to
 1165+minors.

Now re-upgrade again or your node will soon disconnect from all peers because 
they're 'too new'. Bugs will be fixed if we run bugged versions and report 
them, but if we all stay on the last version that seemed to work fairly well, 
Freenet will never get to 1.0
Remember that this is not an utility that is supposed to be stable and rliable, 
it's an alpha that needs testing and bug reposting -lots of that.

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Re: [freenet-support] Nearly no content left with correct compression?

[Luke771]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:28:38 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Great! However I thought it would be finished before release of 1166,
 but so I'll wait for 1167+ or fixed trunk.
 
 Matthew Toseland wrote:
  It's a bug. It will be fixed before we release the code.
 Great! However I thought it would be finished before release of 1166,
 but so I'll wait for 1167+ or fixed trunk.

Oh. I see this thing has been discussed and solved already. Disregard my 
previous message then (some day I'll learn to read all the messages before 
answering to one)

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[freenet-support] How do you move freenet to another computer

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On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:21:57 +0100
bqz69  wrote:

> How do you move  freenet to another computer, so you can continue to use the 
> same node ref. and datastore etc.

If you're moving your node to a Unix based OS (pretty much any OS but Windows) 
you can simply copy the Freenet directory to the new box.
You may want to install a cron job for the autostart.
Download .sh scripts (update.sh and run.sh) from 
downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha and drop them into the freenet direcotry if 
you're moving from a Windows box

For moving to a Windows box you have to:
- copy your Freenet directory from the old box
- install a new freenet node on the Windows box where you want to move your 
node to
- stop the new node you just installed
- delete the content of the Freenet directory (save the .cmd files if your 
moving from a *nix box)
- replace it with the content from the Freenet directory copied from the old box
- start the node

NOTE: don't simply overwrite the Freenet directory with the one you copied from 
the old box: it would work but your freenet directory would include a bunch of 
useless files and direcotries: the right way to go is to delete the freenet 
directory's content first (except .cmd files) and then replace with the stuff 
you copied.


Did I miss anything? I read again before posting but I can't find the terribly 
obvious thing that I missed (I always do)


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[freenet-support] freenet stops running

[Luke771]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:04:49 +0100
bqz69  wrote:

> On Sunday 26 October 2008 13.07.56 bqz69 wrote:
> > I am running freenet 1165 on a fit-pc using ubuntu 8.04.
> >
> > Freenet is  installed with autostart property set.
> >
> > When I check fit-pc the next morning, freenet has stopped running (fms
> > works ok).
> >
> > I run ./run.sh status, and is told freenet is not running.
> >
> > Then I run ./run.sh start, and freenet starts up telling among others:
> >
> > "there isn-t enough entropy", but starts anyway.
> >
> > This has now happened 3 days in a row.
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> 
> Right now I tried to stop -and start freenet p? fit-pc, bun only one peer got 
> connected and the unconnected (busy).
> 
> I have another freenet running on another computer (hp pavilion dv 9000), and 
> it runs cintinuously and have 12 peers connected at the moment.
> 
> They are both connected to the internet vis same router and adsl modem.
> 


Does the warning 'not enough entropy' appear each time you start?

If so, you can try this:
Open a terminal and launch a search for any file using the command 'find /' (no 
quotes)
You'll see a lot of text scroo through you terminal, don't worry, it's OK.

Now launch your node using another terminal to run ./run.sh start so you can 
see what you type. 
Launch your browser and look how FProxy looks like. 
There shouldn't be any 'not enough entropy' message.
Now you can stop the search that you launched with find / (with the terminal 
where the search is running in focus, hit ctrl+C)
Let the node run and see how your peers are doing.

IF the 'not enouogh entropy' thing was the problem, that should fix it.
If the problem is caused by something else, then I don't know and you'll have 
to wait for some answer from someone who actually understand how Freenet works 
(I can only use it). If I understood that correctly (but it's very possible 
that I havent) 'not enough entropy' means that there isn't sufficient activity 
to generate  "randomity", a search on any file creates that activity.

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Re: [freenet-support] freenet stops running

[Luke771]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:04:49 +0100
bqz69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 26 October 2008 13.07.56 bqz69 wrote:
  I am running freenet 1165 on a fit-pc using ubuntu 8.04.
 
  Freenet is  installed with autostart property set.
 
  When I check fit-pc the next morning, freenet has stopped running (fms
  works ok).
 
  I run ./run.sh status, and is told freenet is not running.
 
  Then I run ./run.sh start, and freenet starts up telling among others:
 
  there isn-t enough entropy, but starts anyway.
 
  This has now happened 3 days in a row.
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 Right now I tried to stop -and start freenet på fit-pc, bun only one peer got 
 connected and the unconnected (busy).
 
 I have another freenet running on another computer (hp pavilion dv 9000), and 
 it runs cintinuously and have 12 peers connected at the moment.
 
 They are both connected to the internet vis same router and adsl modem.
 


Does the warning 'not enough entropy' appear each time you start?

If so, you can try this:
Open a terminal and launch a search for any file using the command 'find /' (no 
quotes)
You'll see a lot of text scroo through you terminal, don't worry, it's OK.

Now launch your node using another terminal to run ./run.sh start so you can 
see what you type. 
Launch your browser and look how FProxy looks like. 
There shouldn't be any 'not enough entropy' message.
Now you can stop the search that you launched with find / (with the terminal 
where the search is running in focus, hit ctrl+C)
Let the node run and see how your peers are doing.

IF the 'not enouogh entropy' thing was the problem, that should fix it.
If the problem is caused by something else, then I don't know and you'll have 
to wait for some answer from someone who actually understand how Freenet works 
(I can only use it). If I understood that correctly (but it's very possible 
that I havent) 'not enough entropy' means that there isn't sufficient activity 
to generate  randomity, a search on any file creates that activity.

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Re: [freenet-support] How do you move freenet to another computer

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On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:21:57 +0100
bqz69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How do you move  freenet to another computer, so you can continue to use the 
 same node ref. and datastore etc.

If you're moving your node to a Unix based OS (pretty much any OS but Windows) 
you can simply copy the Freenet directory to the new box.
You may want to install a cron job for the autostart.
Download .sh scripts (update.sh and run.sh) from 
downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha and drop them into the freenet direcotry if 
you're moving from a Windows box

For moving to a Windows box you have to:
- copy your Freenet directory from the old box
- install a new freenet node on the Windows box where you want to move your 
node to
- stop the new node you just installed
- delete the content of the Freenet directory (save the .cmd files if your 
moving from a *nix box)
- replace it with the content from the Freenet directory copied from the old box
- start the node

NOTE: don't simply overwrite the Freenet directory with the one you copied from 
the old box: it would work but your freenet directory would include a bunch of 
useless files and direcotries: the right way to go is to delete the freenet 
directory's content first (except .cmd files) and then replace with the stuff 
you copied.


Did I miss anything? I read again before posting but I can't find the terribly 
obvious thing that I missed (I always do)


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[freenet-support] Questions 2

[Luke771]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:29:24 -0400
"fred simpson"  wrote:

> On 10/23/08, Luke771  wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:18:40 -0400
> > "fred simpson"  wrote:
> >
> >> a) Can you be traced by your ID if someone gets your IP while you are
> >> in low or normal stranger mode?
> >

> Thanks a lot but wouldn't it be relatively easy for someone to get
> your IP while you're in opennet mode and then become one of your
> friends before OR AFTER you go into darknetmode?
> 

If you connect to someone in darknet mode, that peason is supposed to be a 
friend, trusted by default.
And if you run opennet, you know that you can't hide that you run Freenet.

Someone that gets to know that you run freenet because he peered to your IP 
through opennet is someone that you don't trust enough to tell him that you're 
running Freenet -therefore, you shouldn't connect him to your darknet.

And yes, we all can misplace our trust. Somone that you believed to be a friend 
can sell your ass for much lower price than you imagined, possibly even for the 
pure pleasure of getting you busted. That kind of things has always happened 
and always will happen. You can try to minimize the risk but you can't possibly 
reduce them to a nice round zero.

> 
> >>
> >> b) How do you access Freenet through tor?
> >
> > You don't.
> >
> I have Torbutton on while I access Freenet through Firefox. What is that?
> 

You're not accessing Freenet through Tor. If you check how your proxy settings 
look like while Torbutton is activated, (tools or settings menu according to 
your system, then preferences => Advanced => Network => settings) you'll find 
that the second field from the bottom is marked 'No proxy for...' and the value 
in the field is '127.0.0.1, localhost'. 
That means that when you type 127.0.0.1 or localhost in your browser's address 
field, Firefox skips the proxy.

> 
he West. It is possible that it has happened
> > and I don't know about it.
> > If authorities suspect you to possess illegal files and seize your computer,
> > you're pretty much screwed. You may have a chance if you have taken
> > precautions that have nothing to do with Freenet (it's mostly about file
> > storage).
> >
> I'm assuming that means encrypting your drive.
> 

You're assuming wrong.
All they need is a password. The police will simply kick your ass until you 
give up your password. And They are trained professionals who know physical and 
psychological techniques to extract information.
That is, unless you live in some idyllic country in Northern Europe, where the 
police do not kick uspects' ass and you would get to choose between giving up 
your password or facing a prison sentence for the crime of not giving up your 
password (that's for your own good, boy)

Your only defense is don't get caught -ever-.
If they find an encrypted disk, you're just as screwed as you would be if you 
had your data stored in clear, plus some good ass-kicking.
With some research (read: google) you can learn how to configure LUKS (maybe 
even Truecrypt) to make your encrypted partitions luck like they're simply 
unformatted. Not that it would help much if the bad guys happen to -know- that 
the data is there (and there are thousands of way to find out, including asking 
YOU, say on a mailing list.


> >>
> >> d) Is it possible to have multiple Freenet ID's? If so, can you use
> >> them at the same time?
> >
> > If you mean Frost or FMS identity, the answer is yes. And yes.

> I meant multiple instances of Freenet. I'd like one instance in
> opennet and one instance in darknet. For downloading non-sensitive
> files and communicating non-sensitive information and for downloading
> sensitive files and communicating sensitive information, respectively


Yes, you can have multiple instances of Freenet on the same box. If you run the 
installer while a node is already running, your new node will be automatically 
configured to use different ports for FProxy and for connecting to apps such as 
Frost or Thaw. In the same way, you can run the installer a third time while 
the two existing nodes are running, and the third node will use a third set of 
ports.
However, you will need to configure the applications (Thaw, Frost, etc) to make 
them connect to the second node (or the third etc), because they would all 
connect to the first node by default (port 9481)

Anyways, I don't see much sense in this kind of configuration. I won't even 
discuss wehther or not it would be more secure than simply running a node the 
way it's supposed to be run (it probably isn't), the only thing that I'm going 
to point out is that you have accessed a mailing list, declared that you use 
Freenet, given some clue about your nationality and colural background, and 
pretty much stat

[freenet-support] Questions

[Luke771]

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:18:40 -0400
"fred simpson"  wrote:

> a) Can you be traced by your ID if someone gets your IP while you are
> in low or normal stranger mode?

If you mean whether your Frost or FMS identity can be linked to your real life 
ID, the answer is no. More exactly, not unless you do something stupid or you 
decide to let your ID be traceable.

Using the insecure mode (aka Opennet) it is very easy to determine the you 
('you' as in real life identity) are running Freenet, but there is no way to 
link your real life identity to your Frost or FMS identity, or determine that 
'real-life you' has authored one particular freesite.
In other words, as long as there arent any laws that make anonymous networking 
illegal in your country of residence, you should be fine even with insecure 
mode: they can tell that you run Freenet but they can't tell what you do with 
it.

In theory, it is possible for a peer to figure out what files you 'probably' 
download using a correlation attack, which is another strong point in favor of 
darknet: only connect to peers that you trust not to try and eavesdrop your 
requests. In practice though, an attack of that kind doesn't give certainity 
but only a fair probability. In court, that would mean that your fate depends 
on how good your lawyer is, and another bunch of human factors.

> 
> b) How do you access Freenet through tor?

You don't.

> 
> c) Has anyone ever been arrested for the content they accessed using
> Freenet?

Not that I'm aware of. Not in the West. It is possible that it has happened and 
I don't know about it.
If authorities suspect you to possess illegal files and seize your computer, 
you're pretty much screwed. You may have a chance if you have taken precautions 
that have nothing to do with Freenet (it's mostly about file storage).

> 
> d) Is it possible to have multiple Freenet ID's? If so, can you use
> them at the same time?

If you mean Frost or FMS identity, the answer is yes. And yes.
A pretty common mistake is to send messages using the 'wrong' ID. I did that a 
number of times and eventually gave up on trying to keep a 'secret ID'. I don't 
need it anyway, so I din't try to do that using a safer setup, but that is 
possible, and pretty easy: for instance you may run separated instances of 
Frost in different directories (you may need to set them to use different 
ports, or run one at a time, I can't tell right now because I haven't run Frost 
in a long time).
FMS doesn't need several instances because it uses a news client rather than 
its own client like Frost does, if the point is to avoid sending a message with 
the wriong ID, using separated news clients for different ID's would do.
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[freenet-support] Uninstall Freenet on Mac

[Luke771]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:36:13 -0700
Erin Dalzell  wrote:

> How do I completely uninstall Freenet on Mac OS X 10.5.5?
>

Provided that you installed Freenet in the default directory, open a terminal 
(should be in /Apps/terminal.app IIRC)

In the terminal, type:
java -jar /Users//Freenet/Uninstaller/Uninstaler.jar
where  is your login name, and hit enter.

GUI way:
- Browse to your Freenet directory (default /Users//Freenet)
- In the freenet directory, you should find a folder called 'Uninstaller', and 
inside that folder there is a file called Uninstaller.jar, which is a Java 
executable: run it to completely uninstall Freenet. It also gives you an option 
to delete the Freenet direcotry itself.

Now, I don't remember if MacOSX lets you run .jar file double clicking on them, 
or maybe it gives you a 'run' option in the contest menu; anyway the point is 
that you have to run the Uninstaller.jar. If your OS goves you an 'extract' 
option, ignore it. You have to run the .jar as it is, not extract it.

Alternatively, if you for any reason can't run the Uninstaller.jar, you may 
simply delete the Freenet directory with all its content. All the Freenet stuff 
always stays in the Freenet directory, so deleting that directory will 
effectively uninstall everything.

Only if you have set Freenet to autostart when you start the computer, manually 
deleting the Freenet directory would leave the Freenet autostart command in 
place (there is surely an easy way to get rid of it but you'll have to wait for 
someone who actually know MacOSX to tell you how to do that).
Anyways, a command pointing to a non-existent file does no harm at all, the 
system would simply fail to locate the target and ignore the command.



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Re: [freenet-support] Questions 2

[Luke771]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:29:24 -0400
fred simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/23/08, Luke771 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:18:40 -0400
  fred simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  a) Can you be traced by your ID if someone gets your IP while you are
  in low or normal stranger mode?
 
snip
 Thanks a lot but wouldn't it be relatively easy for someone to get
 your IP while you're in opennet mode and then become one of your
 friends before OR AFTER you go into darknetmode?
 

If you connect to someone in darknet mode, that peason is supposed to be a 
friend, trusted by default.
And if you run opennet, you know that you can't hide that you run Freenet.

Someone that gets to know that you run freenet because he peered to your IP 
through opennet is someone that you don't trust enough to tell him that you're 
running Freenet -therefore, you shouldn't connect him to your darknet.

And yes, we all can misplace our trust. Somone that you believed to be a friend 
can sell your ass for much lower price than you imagined, possibly even for the 
pure pleasure of getting you busted. That kind of things has always happened 
and always will happen. You can try to minimize the risk but you can't possibly 
reduce them to a nice round zero.

 
 
  b) How do you access Freenet through tor?
 
  You don't.
 
 I have Torbutton on while I access Freenet through Firefox. What is that?
 

You're not accessing Freenet through Tor. If you check how your proxy settings 
look like while Torbutton is activated, (tools or settings menu according to 
your system, then preferences = Advanced = Network = settings) you'll find 
that the second field from the bottom is marked 'No proxy for...' and the value 
in the field is '127.0.0.1, localhost'. 
That means that when you type 127.0.0.1 or localhost in your browser's address 
field, Firefox skips the proxy.

 
he West. It is possible that it has happened
  and I don't know about it.
  If authorities suspect you to possess illegal files and seize your computer,
  you're pretty much screwed. You may have a chance if you have taken
  precautions that have nothing to do with Freenet (it's mostly about file
  storage).
 
 I'm assuming that means encrypting your drive.
 

You're assuming wrong.
All they need is a password. The police will simply kick your ass until you 
give up your password. And They are trained professionals who know physical and 
psychological techniques to extract information.
That is, unless you live in some idyllic country in Northern Europe, where the 
police do not kick uspects' ass and you would get to choose between giving up 
your password or facing a prison sentence for the crime of not giving up your 
password (that's for your own good, boy)
 
Your only defense is don't get caught -ever-.
If they find an encrypted disk, you're just as screwed as you would be if you 
had your data stored in clear, plus some good ass-kicking.
With some research (read: google) you can learn how to configure LUKS (maybe 
even Truecrypt) to make your encrypted partitions luck like they're simply 
unformatted. Not that it would help much if the bad guys happen to -know- that 
the data is there (and there are thousands of way to find out, including asking 
YOU, say on a mailing list.


 
  d) Is it possible to have multiple Freenet ID's? If so, can you use
  them at the same time?
 
  If you mean Frost or FMS identity, the answer is yes. And yes.
snip
 I meant multiple instances of Freenet. I'd like one instance in
 opennet and one instance in darknet. For downloading non-sensitive
 files and communicating non-sensitive information and for downloading
 sensitive files and communicating sensitive information, respectively


Yes, you can have multiple instances of Freenet on the same box. If you run the 
installer while a node is already running, your new node will be automatically 
configured to use different ports for FProxy and for connecting to apps such as 
Frost or Thaw. In the same way, you can run the installer a third time while 
the two existing nodes are running, and the third node will use a third set of 
ports.
However, you will need to configure the applications (Thaw, Frost, etc) to make 
them connect to the second node (or the third etc), because they would all 
connect to the first node by default (port 9481)

Anyways, I don't see much sense in this kind of configuration. I won't even 
discuss wehther or not it would be more secure than simply running a node the 
way it's supposed to be run (it probably isn't), the only thing that I'm going 
to point out is that you have accessed a mailing list, declared that you use 
Freenet, given some clue about your nationality and colural background, and 
pretty much stated that you are interested in downloading illegal files.

If I was you, I'd stay the hell off anything more illegal than mowing your lawn 
at the wrong time of the day.


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Re: [freenet-support] Uninstall Freenet on Mac

[Luke771]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:36:13 -0700
Erin Dalzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How do I completely uninstall Freenet on Mac OS X 10.5.5?


Provided that you installed Freenet in the default directory, open a terminal 
(should be in /Apps/terminal.app IIRC)

In the terminal, type:
java -jar /Users/your-username/Freenet/Uninstaller/Uninstaler.jar
where your-username is your login name, and hit enter.

GUI way:
- Browse to your Freenet directory (default /Users/your-username/Freenet)
- In the freenet directory, you should find a folder called 'Uninstaller', and 
inside that folder there is a file called Uninstaller.jar, which is a Java 
executable: run it to completely uninstall Freenet. It also gives you an option 
to delete the Freenet direcotry itself.

Now, I don't remember if MacOSX lets you run .jar file double clicking on them, 
or maybe it gives you a 'run' option in the contest menu; anyway the point is 
that you have to run the Uninstaller.jar. If your OS goves you an 'extract' 
option, ignore it. You have to run the .jar as it is, not extract it.

Alternatively, if you for any reason can't run the Uninstaller.jar, you may 
simply delete the Freenet directory with all its content. All the Freenet stuff 
always stays in the Freenet directory, so deleting that directory will 
effectively uninstall everything.

Only if you have set Freenet to autostart when you start the computer, manually 
deleting the Freenet directory would leave the Freenet autostart command in 
place (there is surely an easy way to get rid of it but you'll have to wait for 
someone who actually know MacOSX to tell you how to do that).
Anyways, a command pointing to a non-existent file does no harm at all, the 
system would simply fail to locate the target and ignore the command.



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Re: [freenet-support] thaw

[Luke771]

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:26:04 +0200
Jelbert Holtrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'm looking for Thaw. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 G~nW4SBUo7Aj0cRUBNK2A,JB8a9cI4zsY7Zrgh84~NXHKQwDB1bADEY6VE9umf7- 
 Y,AQACAAE/thaw-howto/1/ I read that Thaw.jar should be in het freenet  
 directory. However the file is not there. I use a mac and seached for  
 it using finder and locate in the terminal:
 
 noname:freenet jp$ locate Thaw
 /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.8.8/MLDBM/Serializer/FreezeThaw.pm
 noname:freenet jp$
 
 im running:
 Freenet 0.7 Build #1165 r22843M
 Freenet-ext Build #22 r22506
 
 The solution is probably very simple but somehow I cant find it. Can  
 you help me?
 Greetings,
 
 Jelbert
   
Simple indeed: that howto is outdated.
Thaw is not bundled with Freenet any more. You can download Thaw from the 
Freenet website at this address:
http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/Thaw/Thaw.jar ==Official download, 
recommended

Or, you can download it anonymously from Freenet, but that's an unoffical 
download that you can only trust as much as you trust the uploader (that would 
be me)
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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

[Luke771]

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:56:23 +0100
Matthew Toseland  wrote:

> There is no difference. But the stats on the homepage are *low level* 
> inserts, 
> being passed through your node. On the downloads/uploads page, we are talking 
> about high level inserts originated by you.

OK, disregard my previous message, I finally realized the sense of Toad's 
answer. I had added that  'insert' vs. 'upload' distintion that I had made up.

The UL/DL page is only abouot insert (or uploads) originated by you, while the 
stats page is about inserts (or uploads) that your node uploads, no matter who 
originate them, but calling the former 'inserts' and the latter 'uploads' is 
bogus. (it is right now, but it could be an idea)

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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

[Luke771]

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:56:23 +0100
Matthew Toseland  wrote:

>> . I 'think' I have understood 
>> some concepts but don't take my word for revealed truth. At least not until 
>> someone more competent confirms what I say (or calls it BS).
> 
> And most of it is. :)
> 
> There is no difference. But the stats on the homepage are *low level* 
> inserts, 
> being passed through your node. On the downloads/uploads page, we are talking 
> about high level inserts originated by you.

Well that's pretty much what I said, so why BS?

Look, you say two opposite things in that last sentence:
1 - there is no difference, and
2 - insert originate by you, upload go through your PC (some of them may be 
originate by you?)
I was saying #2 without #1.



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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

[Luke771]

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:56:13 -0700
gofer  wrote:

> My terminology was wrong: I should have said 'inserts', not 'uploads'. 

for the most part we use the two terms interchangeably

>Under 'Current Activity' I see 'Inserts', 'Requests', and 'Transferring 
>Requests'.

Ah, that's what you meant?
I thought you were talking about the upload/download (formerly 'queue') page
If you were talking about the Current Activity page, you can disregard my 
answer to the other thread you initiated.

>I know that other nodes send requests, and that chunks of files are then sent 
>to those nodes, but I thought I had to initiate an 'Insert'.

Yes you have to initiate an insert. That's when you choose a file from your box 
and upload it to the freenet distributed storage. That's an insert, which we 
often refer to as an upload.

> So, is an 'insert' and an 'upload' the same thing?

Even tho we often refer to insertions as 'uploads' that's not really the same 
thing. Techincally, an upload is something from your datastore (therefore 
already inserted into freenet) that's being transferred from your node to 
another. That's an upload. Content already on freenet.

An insert on the other hand, is a file that you have on your box and you wish 
to make available on freenet, so you 'insert' it. This is often referred to as 
'uploading' to freenet, it may sound kind of of confusing but most of the times 
when we say 'uploading' but mean 'inserting', the real meaning is self-evident 
from the contest (if not, just ask)

> 
> Also, would any files being inserted come from the cache? Or are any other 
> folders on my computer 'shared'?

Uploaded can come to cache. A file that's traveling to node A to node D through 
nodes B and C, is copied into the cache of all the boxes along the way (B and 
C). But an upload can also come from your store, when the files (or encrypted 
chunks) that are being trasnmitted are found in your store rather than using 
your node as a transit point along a route.


NOTE: Everything in this post may be bullshit. I can't code and I don't really 
understand Freenet, I can only use it. I 'think' I have understood some 
concepts but don't take my word for revealed truth. At least not until someone 
more competent confirms what I say (or calls it BS).


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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

[Luke771]

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:05:35 -0400
urza9814 at gmail.com wrote:

>On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Art Charbonneau wrote:
>>  On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active
>> even though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something
>> amiss?


> Yes, that is normal. People are downloading files from you. That's how
> Freenet works.


No it's not. I've been using freenet for years and I never heard about other 
people'd download showing up as uploads in your freenet page (why should they? 
They're not downloading from you as they would on say eMule)

If those uploades are queued, somebody or something added them to the queue. 
What probably happened is that the uploads were initiated in Thaw or Frost.



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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

[Luke771]

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:16:19 -0700
Art Charbonneau  wrote:

> On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active even 
> though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something amiss?

You sure you didnt start the uploads from another app, like Thaw?

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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

[Luke771]

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:56:23 +0100
Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is no difference. But the stats on the homepage are *low level* 
 inserts, 
 being passed through your node. On the downloads/uploads page, we are talking 
 about high level inserts originated by you.

OK, disregard my previous message, I finally realized the sense of Toad's 
answer. I had added that  'insert' vs. 'upload' distintion that I had made up.

The UL/DL page is only abouot insert (or uploads) originated by you, while the 
stats page is about inserts (or uploads) that your node uploads, no matter who 
originate them, but calling the former 'inserts' and the latter 'uploads' is 
bogus. (it is right now, but it could be an idea)

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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

[Luke771]

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:56:13 -0700
gofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My terminology was wrong: I should have said 'inserts', not 'uploads'. 

for the most part we use the two terms interchangeably

Under 'Current Activity' I see 'Inserts', 'Requests', and 'Transferring 
Requests'.

Ah, that's what you meant?
I thought you were talking about the upload/download (formerly 'queue') page
If you were talking about the Current Activity page, you can disregard my 
answer to the other thread you initiated.

I know that other nodes send requests, and that chunks of files are then sent 
to those nodes, but I thought I had to initiate an 'Insert'.

Yes you have to initiate an insert. That's when you choose a file from your box 
and upload it to the freenet distributed storage. That's an insert, which we 
often refer to as an upload.

 So, is an 'insert' and an 'upload' the same thing?

Even tho we often refer to insertions as 'uploads' that's not really the same 
thing. Techincally, an upload is something from your datastore (therefore 
already inserted into freenet) that's being transferred from your node to 
another. That's an upload. Content already on freenet.

An insert on the other hand, is a file that you have on your box and you wish 
to make available on freenet, so you 'insert' it. This is often referred to as 
'uploading' to freenet, it may sound kind of of confusing but most of the times 
when we say 'uploading' but mean 'inserting', the real meaning is self-evident 
from the contest (if not, just ask)

 
 Also, would any files being inserted come from the cache? Or are any other 
 folders on my computer 'shared'?

Uploaded can come to cache. A file that's traveling to node A to node D through 
nodes B and C, is copied into the cache of all the boxes along the way (B and 
C). But an upload can also come from your store, when the files (or encrypted 
chunks) that are being trasnmitted are found in your store rather than using 
your node as a transit point along a route.
 

NOTE: Everything in this post may be bullshit. I can't code and I don't really 
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concepts but don't take my word for revealed truth. At least not until someone 
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[freenet-support] adding cronjob shoud be optional

[Luke771]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:48:59 +0200
Pascal  wrote:

> Hi, freenet is a nice piece of software, the new installer is really 
> easy to use, but it tells nothing about whats going on.

yes it does. Had you read the text that appeared on each step of the wizard 
instead of clicking your way straight to 'finish', you would have noticed that 
plugins, autoupgdate and yes, autostart, are enabled by default but can be 
disabled during the install process by simply unchecking some checkbox.

> I installed 
> freenet with the run.sh script, 

No you didnt. You probably installed the node with the new_installer.jar
The run.sh script is to start the node with the wrapper.

>and after a restart of my old notebook 
> with 256 MB RAM installed I wondered why there was a java process, 
> eating all the memory.

What you mean 'eating all the memory'? If you gave your node a max allowed 
memory of 256 MB it will try to use that much (and probably cause a crash, on 
an old laptop with only 265MB of RAM) You were prompted to choose how much 
memory you wanted to allow your node to use during the first-time wizard. With 
a 265MB system you probably want to set your node to use 128MB max. You can 
still change the settings you chose during the first-time wizard: go to the 
configuration page, scroll down, read what the settings do and change what you 
need to change.
You may also re-run the wizard visiting http://127.0.0.1:/wizard

> 
> I found that the installer of freenet on Linux installs a cronjob every 
> time I start the node without questioning. 

The installer did ask you whether or not you wanted to install the cron job. 
There's a checkbox marked 'autostart' or something similar. Once again, you 
should read therough the install process, not just click away.
Anyhow, I guess the cron job can be removed.

>Since the freenet software 
> uses a lot of system resources, this should be optional.

It is.
The checkbox is checked by default because Freenet should run as much as 
possible, possibly 24/7.
If your idea of freenet is 'start freenet-browse freesites-shut down freenet', 
you may as well give it up right away: it won't work that way. Freenet needs to 
stay up. 
You may want to shut it down when you really need the resources for something 
else but as soon as you're done you should restart it. The more it stays up the 
better it will work.

> 
> Moreover, I think, it is not a nice behaviour for an application to 
> install autostart procedures without asking or even telling the user.

It does ask, it does tell.
The checkboxs are checked by default but you can uncheck them.
Next time you install a program, read the text that appears one each page of 
the installer, look at the options that are given to you, choose what you want, 
and THEN lcick 'next'.

The user is in full control during the install process, you just failed to 
notice. You can blame it on our developers if you don't even bother checking 
out what your options are. 
Your point about giving the user control during the install process was 
discussed long ago and the developers did a good job: now the user IS in 
control.
Well, actually, the user was already in control; the difference is that now 
just about any user is in control no matter how computer illiterate s/he is: 
the new installer give you all the options with checkboxes and all you have to 
do is to read what each checkbox does and then check/uncheck according to your 
own preferences.
What do you expect?
A mind-reading installer that knows what the user wants and automatically 
chooses what to install and how? I'm afraid you'll have to wait a bit more for 
that; in the meantime you can READ the options that the current installer gives 
you. Really. You can even choose the language they're displayed in.

> There should be at least a note in the INSTALL info file.

Fair enough.
Write a new version of the INSTALL file and post it to the dvelopment list devl 
at freenetproject.org
If it's good it will be used.

> Regards,
> Pascal

Thx for the input, hope my answer helped
Luke

Re: [freenet-support] adding cronjob shoud be optional

[Luke771]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:48:59 +0200
Pascal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, freenet is a nice piece of software, the new installer is really 
 easy to use, but it tells nothing about whats going on.

yes it does. Had you read the text that appeared on each step of the wizard 
instead of clicking your way straight to 'finish', you would have noticed that 
plugins, autoupgdate and yes, autostart, are enabled by default but can be 
disabled during the install process by simply unchecking some checkbox.

 I installed 
 freenet with the run.sh script, 

No you didnt. You probably installed the node with the new_installer.jar
The run.sh script is to start the node with the wrapper.

and after a restart of my old notebook 
 with 256 MB RAM installed I wondered why there was a java process, 
 eating all the memory.

What you mean 'eating all the memory'? If you gave your node a max allowed 
memory of 256 MB it will try to use that much (and probably cause a crash, on 
an old laptop with only 265MB of RAM) You were prompted to choose how much 
memory you wanted to allow your node to use during the first-time wizard. With 
a 265MB system you probably want to set your node to use 128MB max. You can 
still change the settings you chose during the first-time wizard: go to the 
configuration page, scroll down, read what the settings do and change what you 
need to change.
You may also re-run the wizard visiting http://127.0.0.1:/wizard

 
 I found that the installer of freenet on Linux installs a cronjob every 
 time I start the node without questioning. 

The installer did ask you whether or not you wanted to install the cron job. 
There's a checkbox marked 'autostart' or something similar. Once again, you 
should read therough the install process, not just click away.
Anyhow, I guess the cron job can be removed.

Since the freenet software 
 uses a lot of system resources, this should be optional.

It is.
The checkbox is checked by default because Freenet should run as much as 
possible, possibly 24/7.
If your idea of freenet is 'start freenet-browse freesites-shut down freenet', 
you may as well give it up right away: it won't work that way. Freenet needs to 
stay up. 
You may want to shut it down when you really need the resources for something 
else but as soon as you're done you should restart it. The more it stays up the 
better it will work.

 
 Moreover, I think, it is not a nice behaviour for an application to 
 install autostart procedures without asking or even telling the user.

It does ask, it does tell.
The checkboxs are checked by default but you can uncheck them.
Next time you install a program, read the text that appears one each page of 
the installer, look at the options that are given to you, choose what you want, 
and THEN lcick 'next'.

The user is in full control during the install process, you just failed to 
notice. You can blame it on our developers if you don't even bother checking 
out what your options are. 
Your point about giving the user control during the install process was 
discussed long ago and the developers did a good job: now the user IS in 
control.
Well, actually, the user was already in control; the difference is that now 
just about any user is in control no matter how computer illiterate s/he is: 
the new installer give you all the options with checkboxes and all you have to 
do is to read what each checkbox does and then check/uncheck according to your 
own preferences.
What do you expect?
A mind-reading installer that knows what the user wants and automatically 
chooses what to install and how? I'm afraid you'll have to wait a bit more for 
that; in the meantime you can READ the options that the current installer gives 
you. Really. You can even choose the language they're displayed in.

 There should be at least a note in the INSTALL info file.

Fair enough.
Write a new version of the INSTALL file and post it to the dvelopment list 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If it's good it will be used.

 Regards,
 Pascal

Thx for the input, hope my answer helped
Luke
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[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Luke771]

Matthew Toseland wrote:
 > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 10:24, Luke771 wrote:
 >> As for the NAT thing, I'm behind a NAT where I can't do port forwarding
 >> (evil ISP) and my 0.7 node works perfectly... well, almost perfectly: I
 >> can't peer to nodes that are also behind a NAT and with no forwarded
 >> ports, but that's not much of a limitation, I can connect to almost all
 >> nodes, as not many of them are NAT'ed and with no forwarded ports,
 >
 > Really? My assumption has always been that nobody forwards ports. You 
should
 > be able to connect anyway though, unless your ISP's NAT is really nasty.
 >

I often helper noobs on #freenet-refs with port forwarding, so I guess 
someone does port forwarding after all. (how well they do that is a 
different story)

The ISP's NAT is like this:
There's an integrated router/switch/hub that includes VoIP software and 
does DHCP, the ISP calls this kind of router "HAG" (home access 
gateway), they run cisco OS (that's what nMap says) and don't answer to 
http or telnet, the only open port appears to be the VoIP one (sorry, I 
forgot the number and what the protocol is called, the protocola 
commonly associated to that port is something like 
h.300(something)/h.(other number) and someone told me that it's VoIP.

When they come to hook you up they bring theis integrated router that 
has three rj45 and two rj11 sockets, only one of the rj11 works, you 
connect your telephone there, but if you use the wrong one, you'll 
always hear the 'busy' tone.

The ISP controls the router remotely (I hate that), and as if that 
wasn't bad enough, there's a whole lot of actions that will trigger a 
"safety" thingy that will disconnect you, for instance, the home users' 
standard contract limits the number of machines to three (yes, I could 
use a 2-NIC machine, a hub, and connect 12 pc's, but that's not the 
point), the router reads the mac of each box that connects to it, and 
I've heard of people who got disconnected for changing a network 
adapter: the software doesn't count how many boxes are actually 
connected, it simply disconnects you when it sees the fourth mac. A 
phonecall to the customer service (works 24/7) usually fixes that right 
away, but it's annoying anyway.

I could go on with more reasons why I call them a "evil" ISP but this 
mail is getting too long, besides being 99% off-topics, so I won't; I'll 
tell some of the things that happens with this kind of connection, and 
why I don't switch ISP:

I can't run stuff like eMule (legal files only, of course), I'd get "low 
ID" only, Bittorrent does work, but only on outbound connections, the 
"check your port forwarding" icon is always up.
And when I tried to set up a 0.5 node, I could only painfully crawl to a 
couple of index sites, nothing more.

I did have problems with nodes that wouldn't connect as peers even on 
0.7, that heppended only two times so far, and I don't get any "NAT 
detected" error message; looks like Freenet works pretty well even from 
behind a NAT (with exclusion of some expecially nasty NAT's, but that 
doesn't seem to be my case)

One fun thing about the evil ISP is that their network topology is 
insane: it's made out of many MAN that connect to each other in a mega 
WAN, so if you know as little as I do about networking that would be 
enough to explore what from your box's point of view appears to be a 
huge LAN. Now, as long as people like myself explore the network out of 
curiosity, there's no problem; the problems begin when someone less 
honest than myself realizes that he's on the same LAN as a lot of 
unaware and computer-illiterate windows users, who don't have any 
administrator password, always log in as administrator, have lots of 
open ports including 139 without even knowing what an 'open port' is, 
and save sensitive data in 'my documents' labelled as important.doc 
bank.doc visa.doc and so forth, and the ISP only think about making more 
money off their customes (you want to be accessible from the internet? 4 
euros a day!!!) and disconnects people for changing nework adapter, 
instead of setting up a network where committing crimes would be at 
least a bit less easy.

Oh, and the reason I don't switch ISP is that in this country there's no 
other ISP that can provide that kind of speed, expecially on upload 
(10/10Mbit), if I dump the evil one, the best I can get is a 6Mbit doen/ 
1Mbit up adsl connection.
Some would say what the heck you need a ten mbit connection for, if you 
can't really use it... and that's not even completely wrong, the point 
is that I'm used with this speed now, and getting used to lowes speeds 
would be a real pain in the ...head. Expecially the first times.

I was gonna add another couple of paragraphs about how bad the contract 
conditions are, but now it's really growing *too* big, so I'll cut it here.
Sorry for the long, offtopics mail (no that's not gonna become a habit)
Luke

Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Luke771]

Matthew Toseland wrote:
  On Tuesday 05 June 2007 10:24, Luke771 wrote:
  As for the NAT thing, I'm behind a NAT where I can't do port forwarding
  (evil ISP) and my 0.7 node works perfectly... well, almost perfectly: I
  can't peer to nodes that are also behind a NAT and with no forwarded
  ports, but that's not much of a limitation, I can connect to almost all
  nodes, as not many of them are NAT'ed and with no forwarded ports,
 
  Really? My assumption has always been that nobody forwards ports. You 
should
  be able to connect anyway though, unless your ISP's NAT is really nasty.
 

I often helper noobs on #freenet-refs with port forwarding, so I guess 
someone does port forwarding after all. (how well they do that is a 
different story)

The ISP's NAT is like this:
There's an integrated router/switch/hub that includes VoIP software and 
does DHCP, the ISP calls this kind of router HAG (home access 
gateway), they run cisco OS (that's what nMap says) and don't answer to 
http or telnet, the only open port appears to be the VoIP one (sorry, I 
forgot the number and what the protocol is called, the protocola 
commonly associated to that port is something like 
h.300(something)/h.(other number) and someone told me that it's VoIP.

When they come to hook you up they bring theis integrated router that 
has three rj45 and two rj11 sockets, only one of the rj11 works, you 
connect your telephone there, but if you use the wrong one, you'll 
always hear the 'busy' tone.

The ISP controls the router remotely (I hate that), and as if that 
wasn't bad enough, there's a whole lot of actions that will trigger a 
safety thingy that will disconnect you, for instance, the home users' 
standard contract limits the number of machines to three (yes, I could 
use a 2-NIC machine, a hub, and connect 12 pc's, but that's not the 
point), the router reads the mac of each box that connects to it, and 
I've heard of people who got disconnected for changing a network 
adapter: the software doesn't count how many boxes are actually 
connected, it simply disconnects you when it sees the fourth mac. A 
phonecall to the customer service (works 24/7) usually fixes that right 
away, but it's annoying anyway.

I could go on with more reasons why I call them a evil ISP but this 
mail is getting too long, besides being 99% off-topics, so I won't; I'll 
tell some of the things that happens with this kind of connection, and 
why I don't switch ISP:

I can't run stuff like eMule (legal files only, of course), I'd get low 
ID only, Bittorrent does work, but only on outbound connections, the 
check your port forwarding icon is always up.
And when I tried to set up a 0.5 node, I could only painfully crawl to a 
couple of index sites, nothing more.

I did have problems with nodes that wouldn't connect as peers even on 
0.7, that heppended only two times so far, and I don't get any NAT 
detected error message; looks like Freenet works pretty well even from 
behind a NAT (with exclusion of some expecially nasty NAT's, but that 
doesn't seem to be my case)

One fun thing about the evil ISP is that their network topology is 
insane: it's made out of many MAN that connect to each other in a mega 
WAN, so if you know as little as I do about networking that would be 
enough to explore what from your box's point of view appears to be a 
huge LAN. Now, as long as people like myself explore the network out of 
curiosity, there's no problem; the problems begin when someone less 
honest than myself realizes that he's on the same LAN as a lot of 
unaware and computer-illiterate windows users, who don't have any 
administrator password, always log in as administrator, have lots of 
open ports including 139 without even knowing what an 'open port' is, 
and save sensitive data in 'my documents' labelled as important.doc 
bank.doc visa.doc and so forth, and the ISP only think about making more 
money off their customes (you want to be accessible from the internet? 4 
euros a day!!!) and disconnects people for changing nework adapter, 
instead of setting up a network where committing crimes would be at 
least a bit less easy.

Oh, and the reason I don't switch ISP is that in this country there's no 
other ISP that can provide that kind of speed, expecially on upload 
(10/10Mbit), if I dump the evil one, the best I can get is a 6Mbit doen/ 
1Mbit up adsl connection.
Some would say what the heck you need a ten mbit connection for, if you 
can't really use it... and that's not even completely wrong, the point 
is that I'm used with this speed now, and getting used to lowes speeds 
would be a real pain in the ...head. Expecially the first times.

I was gonna add another couple of paragraphs about how bad the contract 
conditions are, but now it's really growing *too* big, so I'll cut it here.
Sorry for the long, offtopics mail (no that's not gonna become a habit)
Luke
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[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Luke771]

In Firefox the proxy settings are under 
Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Network/Settings <=that's on Linux, the 
Windows version goes Tools/preferences, etc (never used FF on MacOS)

There are several quick proxy switching extensions for FF, my favorite 
is "Switch Proxy Tool" (in button mode, not the whole toolbar: hide the 
toolbar and use the rightclick/customize shortcut, or 
View/Toolbars/Customize toolbars; once you install Switch Proxy Tool and 
restart, you'll be able to draw and drop a button to one of your 
toolbars, that button will add an item for each proxy you set up to a 
drop-down menu)

I have my browser set to use Tor and I browse freesites using the line 
http://127.0.0.1:/ before the key, which is equivalent of setting 
the proxy to 127.0.0.1 port  and only pasting the key in the address 
field, but using the whole proxy:port line (which overrides your proxy 
settings) and having the browser set to use a fairly reliable 
anonymizing proxy, you have the "double protection" provided by that 
proxy setting that will route your communications thru the Tor network 
if you click on a non-Freenet link (i2p can also be used that way).
Freenet will warn you and ask if you are sure before going to a 
non-Freenet location.

As for the NAT thing, I'm behind a NAT where I can't do port forwarding 
(evil ISP) and my 0.7 node works perfectly... well, almost perfectly: I 
can't peer to nodes that are also behind a NAT and with no forwarded 
ports, but that's not much of a limitation, I can connect to almost all 
nodes, as not many of them are NAT'ed and with no forwarded ports,

Ben Dougall wrote:
> Thanks very much for the reply.
> 
> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> 
>> Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for 
>> 127.0.0.1.
> 
> I can't see any proxy setting in either Firefox nor Safari's 
> preferences. I've certainly never turned any on before. There is a 
> Proxy settings tab in the Network panel in the System preferences, but 
> no setting are on here apart from one box is checked: "Use Passive FTP 
> Mode (PASV)" which I guess is nothing to do with this.
> 
>> BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent 
>> you
>> from accessing your node's local interface.
> 
> I think it does allow NAT but NAT is not turned on.
> 
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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Luke771]

In Firefox the proxy settings are under 
Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Network/Settings =that's on Linux, the 
Windows version goes Tools/preferences, etc (never used FF on MacOS)

There are several quick proxy switching extensions for FF, my favorite 
is Switch Proxy Tool (in button mode, not the whole toolbar: hide the 
toolbar and use the rightclick/customize shortcut, or 
View/Toolbars/Customize toolbars; once you install Switch Proxy Tool and 
restart, you'll be able to draw and drop a button to one of your 
toolbars, that button will add an item for each proxy you set up to a 
drop-down menu)

I have my browser set to use Tor and I browse freesites using the line 
http://127.0.0.1:/ before the key, which is equivalent of setting 
the proxy to 127.0.0.1 port  and only pasting the key in the address 
field, but using the whole proxy:port line (which overrides your proxy 
settings) and having the browser set to use a fairly reliable 
anonymizing proxy, you have the double protection provided by that 
proxy setting that will route your communications thru the Tor network 
if you click on a non-Freenet link (i2p can also be used that way).
Freenet will warn you and ask if you are sure before going to a 
non-Freenet location.

As for the NAT thing, I'm behind a NAT where I can't do port forwarding 
(evil ISP) and my 0.7 node works perfectly... well, almost perfectly: I 
can't peer to nodes that are also behind a NAT and with no forwarded 
ports, but that's not much of a limitation, I can connect to almost all 
nodes, as not many of them are NAT'ed and with no forwarded ports,

Ben Dougall wrote:
 Thanks very much for the reply.
 
 On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
 
 Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for 
 127.0.0.1.
 
 I can't see any proxy setting in either Firefox nor Safari's 
 preferences. I've certainly never turned any on before. There is a 
 Proxy settings tab in the Network panel in the System preferences, but 
 no setting are on here apart from one box is checked: Use Passive FTP 
 Mode (PASV) which I guess is nothing to do with this.
 
 BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent 
 you
 from accessing your node's local interface.
 
 I think it does allow NAT but NAT is not turned on.
 
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