Re: 9.2.0.4 - quick search stopped working?
Hello, today, when searching for a particular message, the "quick search" functionality seemingly stopped working. When I type letters on the message list now, nothing happens, and when I press "enter" afterwards, the message is opened in new window - so apparently no trace of the quick search. I would even attribute this to a new feature that needs some configuring, but I saw the quick search tabs with the values I entered previously, today, so it had to be working up to a certain point. No amount of restarting seems to help. Did anyone maybe experience this behavior too, can the quick search be configured somewhere, by a setting I couldn't find yet? Thank you, best regards Viktor Thursday, June 18, 2020, 3:14:44 PM, you wrote: > Hello All, > Version 9.2.0.4 (BETA) can be downloaded from > EXE file only (no CEF binaries): > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.4-x32-full.7z > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.4-x64-full.7z > EXE with CEF binaries: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.4-x32-full.7z > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.0.4-x64-full.7z > Here is a short list of changes: > [-] (Beta) Search didn't work in HTML viewer > [-] (Beta) Copy and Select All commands didn't work in HTML viewer > [-] (Beta) Fix Viewer Profile selection in the Preferences again > [*] Some other cosmetics 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick search box increases in size with every change of GUI language when zoom factor >100% is set
Fixed — will be in next beta >Среда, 9 октября 2019, 21:17 +03:00 от mse : > >Hello all, > >is anyone else using a windows zoom factor greater than 100%? I have a >4k screen so I set it to 150%. > >I have created a report here incl some pictures and steps to >reproduce: >https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1824 > >Best regards, >mse >-- >Using The Bat! Version 9.0.0.6 (ALPHA) (32-bit) Pro on >Windows 10 (Build 18362) (64-bit) without OTFE > > > >'Using TBBETA' information: >http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quick search box increases in size with every change of GUI language when zoom factor >100% is set
Hello all, is anyone else using a windows zoom factor greater than 100%? I have a 4k screen so I set it to 150%. I have created a report here incl some pictures and steps to reproduce: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1824 Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! Version 9.0.0.6 (ALPHA) (32-bit) Pro on Windows 10 (Build 18362) (64-bit) without OTFE 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick search tabs interpret & as accelerator (rather cosmetical glitch)
Hello Viktor, Tuesday, March 27, 2018, 7:10:26 PM, you wrote: > This is a minor annoyance, but I can imagine it may be quite hard > to get rid of, depending on how the tabs widget works. > Is there any chance to get this fixed if it gets a ticket? Thank you for pointing that out! Please create a small ticket and we will fix it, so you will get notified when we fixed it. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Director Ritlabs, SRL www.ritlabs.com Current beta is 8.3.0.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quick search tabs interpret & as accelerator (rather cosmetical glitch)
Hello Maxim, I have noticed a small one after trying to filter for messages from "1&1": the quick search tab that results from this interprets the ampersand (it shows "1_1" - the second 1 is underlined as an accelerator key) instead of showing it as its contents. This is a minor annoyance, but I can imagine it may be quite hard to get rid of, depending on how the tabs widget works. Is there any chance to get this fixed if it gets a ticket? Thanks, cheers, -- Viktor mailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 8.3.0.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Hello Paul, Saturday, December 2, 2017, 7:12:16 PM, you wrote: VK>> Wait a moment please - did you suggest in your earlier responses that I VK>> should refrain from hitting enter, that typing in a search string would be VK>> enough to _filter_ the message list - or did I misread you? VK>> Lüko Willms - so it seemed to me - suggested quite the opposite - Enter VK>> would be necessary to filter a folder. VK>> Can you please shed a bit of light on this for me? =>>> Thank you! :) > Enter search string in QS > Message list highlights first ascending matching entry > Press Enter to filter message list > Click on highlighted message list tab to close filter > In order to be successful with Quick Search, Message List Tabs must be > enabled. Pressing enter and creating a tab is the behavior I see and use. I thought you were describing filtering without Enter and a tab. Bot since you are now describing the real current behavior and since I wouldn't detect anything different in a 7 version In quickly tested on Friday, I will close this, probably I get misled somewhere and what I imagined simply isn't there :) -- Cheers, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 8.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
12/2/2017 1:02 PM Hi Viktor, On 12/1/2017 Viktor Kabelac wrote: VK> Hello Paul, VK> Wait a moment please - did you suggest in your earlier responses that I VK> should refrain from hitting enter, that typing in a search string would be VK> enough to _filter_ the message list - or did I misread you? VK> Lüko Willms - so it seemed to me - suggested quite the opposite - Enter VK> would be necessary to filter a folder. VK> Can you please shed a bit of light on this for me? =>> Thank you! :) Enter search string in QS Message list highlights first ascending matching entry Press Enter to filter message list Click on highlighted message list tab to close filter In order to be successful with Quick Search, Message List Tabs must be enabled. - -- Paul 32bit TB 8.0.14 Windows 7 Pro 7600 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Guten Tag Viktor Kabelac, am Freitag, 1. Dezember 2017 um 15:56 schrieben Sie: > Lüko Willms - so it seemed to me - suggested quite the opposite - Enter > would be necessary to filter a folder. That is my understanding. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Hello Paul, Friday, December 1, 2017, 3:06:51 PM, you wrote: > 12/1/2017 9:05 AM > Hi Lüko, > On 12/1/2017 Lüko Willms wrote: LW>>I use TheBat since version 5, I believe (since early 2012 at LW>> least), and I can't remember a different behaviour. > I agree. Been using TB since v. 1.1 in 1998. Wait a moment please - did you suggest in your earlier responses that I should refrain from hitting enter, that typing in a search string would be enough to _filter_ the message list - or did I misread you? Lüko Willms - so it seemed to me - suggested quite the opposite - Enter would be necessary to filter a folder. Can you please shed a bit of light on this for me? => Thank you! :) -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
12/1/2017 9:05 AM Hi Lüko, On 12/1/2017 Lüko Willms wrote: LW>I use TheBat since version 5, I believe (since early 2012 at LW> least), and I can't remember a different behaviour. I agree. Been using TB since v. 1.1 in 1998. - -- Paul 32bit TB 8.0.14 Windows 7 Pro 7600 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Guten Tag Viktor Kabelac, am Freitag, 1. Dezember 2017 um 13:53 schrieben Sie: > Thursday, November 30, 2017, 5:48:41 PM, I wrote myself: >>> Entering text in the quick search field jumps to the next fitting >>> message (not the first), but does not filter the list. >> You have to press ENTER to apply it as a filter for the whole folder. > But that's exactly what creates that pesky tab and what apparently wasn't > necessary in previous versions. I use TheBat since version 5, I believe (since early 2012 at least), and I can't remember a different behaviour. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Hallo Lüko, Thursday, November 30, 2017, 5:48:41 PM, you wrote: >> Entering text in the quick search field jumps to the next fitting >> message (not the first), but does not filter the list. > You have to press ENTER to apply it as a filter for the whole folder. But that's exactly what creates that pesky tab and what apparently wasn't necessary in previous versions. And what Paul Van Noord is suggesting isn't necessary now either. Previously, you could filter without having a persistent tab created. Now tabs are all you can do. -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Guten Tag Dimitar Tomov, am Donnerstag, 30. November 2017 um 15:39 schrieben Sie: > Entering text in the quick search field jumps to the next fitting > message (not the first), but does not filter the list. You have to press ENTER to apply it as a filter for the whole folder. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Title: Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore. Dimitar, I have exactly the same. regards Michal Thursday, November 30, 2017, 3:39:45 PM, you wrote: > On Thursday, November 30, 2017, 2:09:36 PM, you wrote: >> 11/30/2017 6:57 AM >> Hi Viktor, >> On 11/30/2017 Viktor Kabelac wrote: VK>>> Pressing Enter always created a new tab - correct? >> Correct VK>>> Could it be that in the earlier versions, you could enter the quick VK>>> search text and have the list filtered without pressing Enter (which VK>>> would have created the tab before, too)? >> Yup. This is exactly how it works here right now. VK>>> I also see another behavior I'm not sure I saw before: VK>>> - enter the name of one of us in the mailing list's message list, say "viktor". VK>>> - pres enter, a tab will be created with the text "viktor" VK>>> - select the search text, delete it, press Enter VK>>> - *another tab* will be created sporting "viktor +" =>>>> Can anyone reproduce and possibly explain this? >> Why do you press Enter? Deleting the text in Quick Search returns the >> message list back to the previous state before doing a Quick Search. >> There is no need for using the Enter key unless you wish to create a Tab >> for the search criteria. For me it is brilliant! > Dear Paul, > Not for me - it does not work like that, using 8.0.14.1 alpha. > Entering text in the quick search field jumps to the next fitting > message (not the first), but does not filter the list. Clearing the > quick search text does not jump back, but changing the text does jump > further down the list to the next fitting message. Hitting ESC first > hides the quick search box and a second ESC hit resets the message > list, but does not close any tab. > Am I missing a setting here? > Best regards, > Dimitar mailto:dito...@gmail.com > > Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
On Thursday, November 30, 2017, 2:09:36 PM, you wrote: > 11/30/2017 6:57 AM > Hi Viktor, > On 11/30/2017 Viktor Kabelac wrote: VK>> Pressing Enter always created a new tab - correct? > Correct VK>> Could it be that in the earlier versions, you could enter the quick VK>> search text and have the list filtered without pressing Enter (which VK>> would have created the tab before, too)? > Yup. This is exactly how it works here right now. VK>> I also see another behavior I'm not sure I saw before: VK>> - enter the name of one of us in the mailing list's message list, say "viktor". VK>> - pres enter, a tab will be created with the text "viktor" VK>> - select the search text, delete it, press Enter VK>> - *another tab* will be created sporting "viktor +" =>>> Can anyone reproduce and possibly explain this? > Why do you press Enter? Deleting the text in Quick Search returns the > message list back to the previous state before doing a Quick Search. > There is no need for using the Enter key unless you wish to create a Tab > for the search criteria. For me it is brilliant! Dear Paul, Not for me - it does not work like that, using 8.0.14.1 alpha. Entering text in the quick search field jumps to the next fitting message (not the first), but does not filter the list. Clearing the quick search text does not jump back, but changing the text does jump further down the list to the next fitting message. Hitting ESC first hides the quick search box and a second ESC hit resets the message list, but does not close any tab. Am I missing a setting here? Best regards, Dimitar mailto:dito...@gmail.com Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Hi Paul, Thursday, November 30, 2017, 1:16:16 PM, you wrote: VK>> Something tells me that the empty search term shouldn't be considered when VK>> entered in the search field and the whole addition not done. Or am I VK>> missing the point in searching for an empty string? > Refrain from pressing Enter. Quick Search is always "live". Pressing > Enter sets the tab to receive additional search criteria Thanks for your hints! I'm still not not sure though. My x32 8.0.14.1 doesn't filter the list when i type in a search term - it merely jumps to the first message fitting that filter. When I type in "noord", it jumps to the first message from you, if already on such one, nothing visible happens. This seems like a change to the behavior as I knew it. As for the empty search term: regardless on whether I use Enter right or not - do you see sense in adding an empty search term to the list to create "viktor +" or "viktor+ +Christmas"? -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
11/30/2017 7:12 AM Hi Viktor, On 11/30/2017 Viktor Kabelac wrote: VK> Something tells me that the empty search term shouldn't be considered when VK> entered in the search field and the whole addition not done. Or am I VK> missing the point in searching for an empty string? Refrain from pressing Enter. Quick Search is always "live". Pressing Enter sets the tab to receive additional search criteria - -- Paul 32bit TB 8.0.14 Windows 7 Pro 7600 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
11/30/2017 6:57 AM Hi Viktor, On 11/30/2017 Viktor Kabelac wrote: VK> Pressing Enter always created a new tab - correct? Correct VK> Could it be that in the earlier versions, you could enter the quick VK> search text and have the list filtered without pressing Enter (which VK> would have created the tab before, too)? Yup. This is exactly how it works here right now. VK> I also see another behavior I'm not sure I saw before: VK> - enter the name of one of us in the mailing list's message list, say "viktor". VK> - pres enter, a tab will be created with the text "viktor" VK> - select the search text, delete it, press Enter VK> - *another tab* will be created sporting "viktor +" =>> Can anyone reproduce and possibly explain this? Why do you press Enter? Deleting the text in Quick Search returns the message list back to the previous state before doing a Quick Search. There is no need for using the Enter key unless you wish to create a Tab for the search criteria. For me it is brilliant! - -- Paul 32bit TB 8.0.14 Windows 7 Pro 7600 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Servus Lüko, Thursday, November 30, 2017, 12:42:23 PM, you wrote: am Donnerstag, 30. November 2017 um 11:53 schrieben Sie: > I also see another behavior I'm not sure I saw before: > - enter the name of one of us in the mailing list's message list, say > "viktor". > - pres enter, a tab will be created with the text "viktor" > - select the search text, delete it, press Enter > - *another tab* will be created sporting "viktor +" =>> Can anyone reproduce and possibly explain this? > By this way you can refine your search. > After receiving this mail, you could enter in the search filed "Willms" and > should get a new tab with the mails found with "willms" among the files which > were previously selected with "Viktor" So that "+" is actually the separator of the previous search term and the new _empty_ one? I see what you mean, that sincerely didn't occur to me. While I would probably understand like this for "viktor + Christmas" - does it make the same amount of sense when the other search term is empty? Just tested now - you are right: I could create a tab saying "viktor+ +16". Something tells me that the empty search term shouldn't be considered when entered in the search field and the whole addition not done. Or am I missing the point in searching for an empty string? -- Cheers, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Guten Tag Viktor Kabelac, am Donnerstag, 30. November 2017 um 11:53 schrieben Sie: > I also see another behavior I'm not sure I saw before: > - enter the name of one of us in the mailing list's message list, say > "viktor". > - pres enter, a tab will be created with the text "viktor" > - select the search text, delete it, press Enter > - *another tab* will be created sporting "viktor +" =>> Can anyone reproduce and possibly explain this? By this way you can refine your search. After receiving this mail, you could enter in the search filed "Willms" and should get a new tab with the mails found with "willms" among the files which were previously selected with "Viktor" -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
[In Reply to: »Michał Lewiński« · 2017-11-30 · 11:01 h (CET)]
Moin, Michał et al.!
>>> But I do not use Message List Tabs¹ and I do not plan to use these.
>> How else can you see the various selections and chose between them?
> I have similar problem, I use quick search just to find email I need
> in this time, not to have permanent selection. In previous versions
> I could just type the word I was looking for, and after that delete
> the word, push enter and my list was full again.
Yep, that`s the point!
Btw: Enable Message List Tabs and then …
- Quick Search “sample” → [Enter] → Only mails containing “sample“ are
displayed in message list (tab {sample}).
- Quick Search cleared → [Enter] → New tab {sample+} is created.
> Now it is not working and extra combination CTRL + = is needed to
> reset filters. It not could be as it was before?
I created a shortcut [Esc] to reset the Quick Search:
→ Quick Search cleared → [Esc] → *All* mails are displayed again. ツ
Cheers!
VA
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Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Hello Michał, Thursday, November 30, 2017, 11:01:32 AM, you wrote: >>> I think it would be confusing when the tab says "sample" but >>> actually does not show a selection, but *ALL* >> But I do not use Message List Tabs¹ and I do not plan to use these. > How else can you see the various selections and chose between them? > I have similar problem, I use quick search just to find email I need in > this time, not to have permanent selection. In previous versions I could > just type the word I was looking for, and after that delete the word, > push enter and my list was full again. Now it is not working and extra > combination CTRL + = is needed to reset filters. It not could be as it was > before? To my knowledge, you can also press Esc once or twice to get rid of the tab you just activated, but yes, I also think the behavior now feels more tab-centric, less suited for those who prefer ad-hoc searches. Pressing Enter always created a new tab - correct? Could it be that in the earlier versions, you could enter the quick search text and have the list filtered without pressing Enter (which would have created the tab before, too)? I also see another behavior I'm not sure I saw before: - enter the name of one of us in the mailing list's message list, say "viktor". - pres enter, a tab will be created with the text "viktor" - select the search text, delete it, press Enter - *another tab* will be created sporting "viktor +" => Can anyone reproduce and possibly explain this? -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Title: Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore. I have similar problem, I use quick search just to find email I need in this time, not to have permanent selection. In previous versions I could just type the word I was looking for, and after that delete the word, push enter and my list was full again. Now it is not working and extra combination CTRL + = is needed to reset filters. It not could be as it was before? regards Michal Thursday, November 30, 2017, 6:30:58 AM, you wrote: Guten Tag Volker Ahrendt, am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017 um 12:49 schrieben Sie: >>> - Quick Search cleared → [Enter] → Still only mails containing >>> “sample“ are displayed in message list. >> If I want to return to showing *ALL* mails, I simply close the tab >> showing the seach word "sample", by clicking on the x. Then I'm >> back. >> I think it would be confusing when the tab says "sample" but >> actually does not show a selection, but *ALL* > But I do not use Message List Tabs¹ and I do not plan to use these. How else can you see the various selections and chose between them? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Guten Tag Volker Ahrendt, am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017 um 12:49 schrieben Sie: >>> - Quick Search cleared → [Enter] → Still only mails containing >>> “sample“ are displayed in message list. >> If I want to return to showing *ALL* mails, I simply close the tab >> showing the seach word "sample", by clicking on the x. Then I'm >> back. >> I think it would be confusing when the tab says "sample" but >> actually does not show a selection, but *ALL* > But I do not use Message List Tabs¹ and I do not plan to use these. How else can you see the various selections and chose between them? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
11/29/2017 7:03 AM Hi Volker, On 11/29/2017 Volker Ahrendt wrote: VA> But I do not use Message List Tabs¹ and I do not plan to use these. VA> ¹) Workspace|Message List Tabs Very handy tool... highly recommended! - -- Paul 32bit TB 8.0.14 Windows 7 Pro 7600 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 8.0.10.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
[In Reply to: »Lüko Willms« · 2017-11-28 · 14:12 h (CET)] Moin, Lüko et al.! >> Now [32bit]: >> - Quick Search “sample” → [Enter] → Only mails containing “sample“ are >> displayed in message list. >> - Quick Search cleared → [Enter] → Still only mails containing >> “sample“ are displayed in message list. > If I want to return to showing *ALL* mails, I simply close the tab > showing the seach word "sample", by clicking on the x. Then I'm > back. > I think it would be confusing when the tab says "sample" but > actually does not show a selection, but *ALL* But I do not use Message List Tabs¹ and I do not plan to use these. ¹) Workspace|Message List Tabs Cheers! VA - -- Volker Ahrendt | the...@ml.ahrendt.net | The /\^o^/\! [Pro] 8.0.14] Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! »Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 8.0.10.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Guten Tag Volker Ahrendt, and all others, am Dienstag, 28. November 2017 um 11:22 schrieben Sie: > Now [32bit]: > - Quick Search “sample” → [Enter] → Only mails containing “sample“ are > displayed in message list. > - Quick Search cleared → [Enter] → Still only mails containing > “sample“ are displayed in message list. If I want to return to showing *ALL* mails, I simply close the tab showing the seach word "sample", by clicking on the x. Then I'm back. I think it would be confusing when the tab says "sample" but actually does not show a selection, but *ALL* -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 8.0.10.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
[In Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2017-11-28 · 08:34 h (CET)] Moin, Maxim et al.! >> Quick Search can not be reset anymore. > Could you please clarify, give us more details on what you mean by > "Quick Search can not be reset anymore"? Old behavior [32bit]: - Quick Search “sample” → [Enter] → Only mails containing “sample“ are displayed in message list. - Quick Search cleared → [Enter] → *All* mails are displayed. Now [32bit]: - Quick Search “sample” → [Enter] → Only mails containing “sample“ are displayed in message list. - Quick Search cleared → [Enter] → Still only mails containing “sample“ are displayed in message list. Cheers! VA - -- Volker Ahrendt | the...@ml.ahrendt.net | The /\^o^/\! [Pro] 8.0.14] Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! »I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.« Douglas Adams (* March 11, 1952; † May 11, 2001) Current beta is 8.0.10.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Hello Volker, Monday, November 27, 2017, 4:37:11 PM, you wrote: > Quick Search can not be reset anymore. Could you please clarify, give us more details on what you mean by "Quick Search can not be reset anymore"? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Director Ritlabs, SRL www.ritlabs.com Current beta is 8.0.10.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
quick search function
Hello Tbbeta, Do any of you also have problems with the quick search function in V5? When doing several searches one after another, which all get added as a tab at the bottom of the message list, I very often get empty results. Then I have to go back to the ALL tab, and then click on the tab with my search string again, and suddenly the messages appear. Clicking from one search tab to another mostly results in empty lists, as if two searches were applied at the same time and both criteria had to be met. Can anyone confirm? Rgds, Carsten Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: quick search function
Hello Tbbeta, Do any of you also have problems with the quick search function in V5? When doing several searches one after another, which all get added as a tab at the bottom of the message list, I very often get empty results. Then I have to go back to the ALL tab, and then click on the tab with my search string again, and suddenly the messages appear. Clicking from one search tab to another mostly results in empty lists, as if two searches were applied at the same time and both criteria had to be met. Can anyone confirm? Quick search doesn't work correctly for me since version 4.x (or maybe it was 3.x?). What I usually see is that when writing something into Search input field and clicking enter it chops half of the letters. E.i. you have to write and hit enter very fast. Sometimes it doesn't open new tab at all. -- Vilius Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quick search function
What I usually see is that when writing something into Search input field and clicking enter it chops half of the letters. E.i. you have to write and hit enter very fast. Sometimes it doesn't open new tab at all. Yes, that happens here too, on top of what I described. Why do these things don't get fixed? Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search : context menu entry Cancel filtering is disabled and can not be used
Hello all, Sunday, February 13, 2011, Marek Mikus wrote: Hello, when is text filtered in Quick Search pane, context menu entry Cancel filtering is disabled and and filtering can not be cancelled. reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8428 fixed in 5.0.0.139, thanks -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.139 BETA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.0.139 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quick Search : context menu entry Cancel filtering is disabled and can not be used
Hello, when is text filtered in Quick Search pane, context menu entry Cancel filtering is disabled and and filtering can not be cancelled. reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8428 -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.138 BETA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.0.138 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message list tabs - Context menu option Properties is allowed for Quick Search Tab, but does not work
Hello, as I expect, it is not possible to edit properties of not-saved Quick Search Tab, so this context menu entry must be disabled for this temporary tab. reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8303 -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.127 BETA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.0.127 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Kertész, On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:31:56 +0100 GMT (12/01/2009, 09:31 +0700 GMT), Kertész Vilmos wrote: RO ,- [ ] RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. RO | Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. KV It is for sophisticated users, not beginners, that is true. I think, KV it is a useful feature, use regularly. As has become clear in the meantime, the Quicksearch has more functions that first meets the eye. -- Cheers, Thomas. Hier abgesellte Fahrzeuge werden brutal zerlegt!!! * http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. KV It is for sophisticated users, not beginners, that is true. I think, KV it is a useful feature, use regularly. As has become clear in the meantime, the Quicksearch has more functions that first meets the eye. This is from the help: Quick Search Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected in the list; type on for further refinement. If the next letter you type has no match in the list it is automatically removed from the search string. The selection prevales. 1. Go to View-Toolbars-Quick Search 2. Type your search string into the Search field 3. Press Ctrl+Enter to find the next message with the same search string 4. Shift+Ctrl+Enter takes you back to the previous result 5. Press Enter to invoke a Quick Filter using the Quick Search string. Only messages matching the Quick Search are now shown. 6. Press Ctrl+= or Esc to remove the Quick Filter. Note: To get to the Quick Search toolbar you can also right-click on the the toolbar dock and choose it from the pop-up menu. Note: Quick Search also works when its toolbar is not visible. Beware: Quick Search works on a selected folder/account only! Vili Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Thomas, Sunday, January 11, 2009, 5:19:34 AM, you wrote: filtering system. However, I have a need to find not necessarily the first message confirming to the search criterion. How about using Ctrl+Enter? If you don't know it already (it's semi-standard, this or Alt+Enter), just right-click the search box to see all available options. -- Best regards, Robert Tomanekmailto:tbb...@mail.robert.tomanek.org Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Thomas, M Certainly, quite useful. Aside of trying to easily locate messages with M a certain subject, or messages from Thomas, I also use it to locate M message with a non empty memo by typing (see my M mid:1283102278.20090110013...@rancho-k.com) or with a certain keyword M in Memo, or... Yes, but the problem is that it only shows the fuirst occurrence of the search string. Have you tried to type Enter after the search string? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello MAU, Yes, but the problem is that it only shows the fuirst occurrence of the search string. Have you tried to type Enter after the search string? Or clicking on the arrows on both sides of the search box? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello MAU, On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:21:49 +0100 GMT (11/01/2009, 17:21 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Yes, but the problem is that it only shows the fuirst occurrence of the search string. Have you tried to type Enter after the search string? M Or clicking on the arrows on both sides of the search box? In fact, no. Thanks for the tip, it now works like alt-click! That's neat and makes it useful for me too. -- Cheers, Thomas. I got into the gene pool while the lifeguard wasn't watching. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Thomas, it now works like alt-click! Similar, but not exactly like. If you Alt+click on an I love TB's IMAP subject, you will only get messages with that subject. But if you quick search for IMAP and hit enter, you will get those messages and also those that may have I'm pissed off with TB's IMAP as a subject. :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello MAU, On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:09:40 +0100 GMT (11/01/2009, 18:09 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: it now works like alt-click! M Similar, but not exactly like. If you Alt+click on an I love TB's IMAP M subject, you will only get messages with that subject. But if you quick M search for IMAP and hit enter, you will get those messages and also M those that may have I'm pissed off with TB's IMAP as a subject. :) This is getting into the TBUDL realm, but if I search for love I wouldn't want any results to show p*ssed off. -- Cheers, Thomas. Die Pille fuer den Mann wurde bei 2 000 Maennern getestet. Und tatsaechlich - keiner von ihnen bekam ein Kind! http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Thomas, RO ,- [ ] RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. RO | Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. It is for sophisticated users, not beginners, that is true. I think, it is a useful feature, use regularly. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Roelof, On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:21:33 +0100 GMT (09/01/2009, 20:21 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO ,- [ ] RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. RO | Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. -- Cheers, Thomas. The save icon on Microsoft Word shows a floppy disk, with the shutter on backwards. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Thomas, RO ,- [ ] RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. RO | Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? Certainly, quite useful. Aside of trying to easily locate messages with a certain subject, or messages from Thomas, I also use it to locate message with a non empty memo by typing ** (see my mid:1283102278.20090110013...@rancho-k.com) or with a certain keyword in Memo, or... I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. Are you aware that Quick search only does so in the fields (columns) currently displayed in the message list? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello MAU, ... by typing ** If you were using RTV when reading my message, you probably didn't see the two stars. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Samstag, 10. Januar 2009 at 17:40, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. Well, i use it, as i search for a mail i know it must be there - but i can not find, because i get hundreds of Mail each day. Normally i need to have more results (all) and also use the real search. -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.9.1 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.191.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 7 POP3 Accounts - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hallo Thomas, On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:40:57 +0700GMT (10-1-2009, 17:40 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. TF Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use TF Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to TF find what I was looking for. As I generally know where a message is (I understand my own filtering system) I go to the right folder and type what I'm looking for. I hardly use the real search. -- Groetjes, Roelof Blessed our young they will inherit our national debt. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.9 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpJRxjvwsx4u.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello MAU, On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:42:01 +0100 GMT (11/01/2009, 00:42 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: RO ,- [ ] RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. RO | Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? M Certainly, quite useful. Aside of trying to easily locate messages with M a certain subject, or messages from Thomas, I also use it to locate M message with a non empty memo by typing ** (see my M mid:1283102278.20090110013...@rancho-k.com) or with a certain keyword M in Memo, or... Yes, but the problem is that it only shows the fuirst occurrence of the search string. That is usually not the message I am looking for, and I don't remember enough to type in a unique string - or a unique string does not exist. For example, I remember sender name and part of the subject, but there was a whole thread about this issue, so the real search will show me all those messages, the quick search only the first. I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. M Are you aware that Quick search only does so in the fields (columns) M currently displayed in the message list? Yes. The real search can also be limited to fields, I have Header, Sender and Subject always open and only fill in the one I want to search now. (I am using the PTV and saw your asterisks above.) -- Cheers, Thomas. Why is it that most nudists are people you don't want to see naked? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Jens, On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:38:06 +0100 GMT (11/01/2009, 03:38 +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. JF Well, i use it, as i search for a mail i know it must be there - but i JF can not find, because i get hundreds of Mail each day. OK, so you, like MAU, find it useful. I was just asking. JF Normally i need to have more results (all) and also use the real JF search. Yes, that is my usualy need. -- Cheers, Thomas. Personnel executives of 100 major corporations were asked for stories of unusual behavior by job applicants. 5. Interrupted to phone his therapist for advice on answering specific interview questions. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Roelof, On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:20:40 +0100 GMT (11/01/2009, 06:20 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use TF Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to TF find what I was looking for. RO As I generally know where a message is (I understand my own filtering RO system) I go to the right folder and type what I'm looking for. I RO hardly use the real search. Thanks for the implication: Actually, I too understand my own filtering system. However, I have a need to find not necessarily the first message confirming to the search criterion. -- Cheers, Thomas. If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello The Bat! Beta Tester, i missed my Quicksearch Toolbar in the Icons-Menue above, while trying to find out, why it dissapeared i pressed ESC while in the Search Field - and the whole Toolbar is gone and has to be switched on again in the View/Toolbars. -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.9 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.1.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 7 POP3 Accounts - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Jens, i missed my Quicksearch Toolbar in the Icons-Menue above, while trying to find out, why it dissapeared i pressed ESC while in the Search Field - and the whole Toolbar is gone and has to be switched on again in the View/Toolbars. That's default behaviour. If you press Esc while focus (cursor) is in search box (field), the toolbar disappears whether it was docked or floating. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hallo Jens, On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:55:40 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 12:55 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JF i missed my Quicksearch Toolbar in the Icons-Menue above, while trying JF to find out, why it dissapeared i pressed ESC while in the Search JF Field - and the whole Toolbar is gone Yes, great feature, I use it all the time after I've used the quick search as I've disabled all toolbars, works that way since v1 JF and has to be switched on again in the View/Toolbars. No, not necessary. Simply start typing while you've got the focus on the message list pane. Just make sure that you don't start with a character that you're using as a shortcut. -- Groetjes, Roelof Welcome to Hell. Here's your copy of Windows95. - Satan http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.9 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgprlVBuUCBZR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 13:19, MAU wrote: Hello Jens, i missed my Quicksearch Toolbar in the Icons-Menue above, while trying to find out, why it dissapeared i pressed ESC while in the Search Field - and the whole Toolbar is gone and has to be switched on again in the View/Toolbars. That's default behaviour. If you press Esc while focus (cursor) is in search box (field), the toolbar disappears whether it was docked or floating. I would expect the behaviour to be Clear the current search. -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.9 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.1.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 7 POP3 Accounts - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 13:20, Roelof Otten wrote: JF and has to be switched on again in the View/Toolbars. No, not necessary. Simply start typing while you've got the focus on the message list pane. Ok, that solves the problem again - we should write the Docu too? -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.9 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.1.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 7 POP3 Accounts - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hallo Jens, On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:04:18 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 14:04 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JF Ok, that solves the problem again - we should write the Docu too? No, of course not, it is there: ,- [ ] | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected | in the list; type on for further refinement. | | If the next letter you type has no match in the list it is | automatically removed from the search string. The selection prevales. | | 1. Go to View-Toolbars-Quick Search | | 2. Type your search string into the Search field | | 3. Press Ctrl+Enter to find the next message with the same search string | | 4. Shift+Ctrl+Enter takes you back to the previous result | | 5. Press Enter to invoke a Quick Filter using the Quick Search | string. Only messages matching the Quick Search are now shown. | | 6. Press Ctrl+= or Esc to remove the Quick Filter. | | Note: To get to the Quick Search toolbar you can also right-click on | the the toolbar dock and choose it from the pop-up menu. | | Note: Quick Search also works when its toolbar is not visible. | | Beware: Quick Search works on a selected folder/account only! `- -- Groetjes, Roelof Encyclopedias for sale. Never used. I know everything. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.9 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpYUDjj3Irib.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Roelof, JF Ok, that solves the problem again - we should write the Docu too? No, of course not, it is there: We all forget to RTFM sometimes ;) TB's Help is far from perfect but it does include a lot of information. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 14:48, MAU wrote: We all forget to RTFM sometimes ;) TB's Help is far from perfect but it does include a lot of information. If you find it... Or maybe it's to long ago i did read the Manual? -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.9 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.1.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 7 POP3 Accounts - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quick Search did not work
S. Cesario (Modena) 28/01/2008 Salve tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com In the Bat 4.0.x alpha version, the quick search work but not display the name of searching selected. Best Regards Claudio Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search did not work
Hello Claudio, CV In the Bat 4.0.x alpha version, the quick search work but not CV display the name of searching selected. What does it mean? -- Cheers! Stefan ...I'm so horny, even the crack of dawn looks good. Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tab added with quick search
Hello MAU, On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, that's a new one for me and thanks for the pointer. I'll now know for the future. Just tried it and was about to cry that it didn't work when I found out it's not the + on the number pad but the other one! M Just hitting Escape does the same, much easier. Unfortunately here it also closes the search box so I have to reopen it but, yes, you're right and hitting Escape does close the Tab too. It's just that I never looked down there because I never expected to see a Tab there. It's a case of 'Can't see the wood for the trees' I think! -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) with POP3 account AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Tab added with quick search
Hello, I've just had occasion to do a quick search and was very surprised to see a Tab added under the message list with all my other Tabs when I hit enter to begin the search. I'm sure it didn't happen with 3.85.02 and it's a bit annoying because I can't see any time when I'd want to do another search with the same criteria in the near future so have to remember to close the Tab. Rather annoying, so is the automatic creation of a Search Tab really necessary? -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) with POP3 account AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Tab added with quick search
Hi Richard! I've just had occasion to do a quick search and was very surprised to see a Tab added under the message list with all my other Tabs when I hit enter to begin the search. I'm sure it didn't happen with 3.85.02 and Well it happenes with 3.85.03, too. it's a bit annoying because I can't see any time when I'd want to do another search with the same criteria in the near future so have to remember to close the Tab. Normally when your finished with your search you hit Ctrl++ to get rid of the results, don't you? Because that will close that tab for you. -- Regards, Raymund Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Tab added with quick search
Hello Raymund, On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RT Well it happenes with 3.85.03, too. OK, thanks. I just never noticed it then :-( RT Normally when your finished with your search you hit Ctrl++ to get RT rid of the results, don't you? Because that will close that tab for RT you. Ah, that's a new one for me and thanks for the pointer. I'll now know for the future. Just tried it and was about to cry that it didn't work when I found out it's not the + on the number pad but the other one! -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) with POP3 account AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Tab added with quick search
Hello Richard, RT Well it happenes with 3.85.03, too. OK, thanks. I just never noticed it then :-( I don't remember with which version but this was introduced much earlier than 3.85.03. I have been using this feature to repeat the same search in other folders. RT Normally when your finished with your search you hit Ctrl++ to get RT rid of the results, don't you? Because that will close that tab for RT you. Ah, that's a new one for me and thanks for the pointer. I'll now know for the future. Just tried it and was about to cry that it didn't work when I found out it's not the + on the number pad but the other one! Just hitting Escape does the same, much easier. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Software quality (was: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list)
Hello Paul, On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:36:51 -0500 GMT (06/02/2006, 23:36 +0700 GMT), Paul Van Noord wrote: PVN After uninstalling TB perform a registry search on [The Bat!] and be PVN prepared for an eye opener. I haven't tested it. But I can imagine that's because it's not freeware, so if people download it they shouldn't be able to extend their trial period every 30 days for another 30 days by just uninstalling and reinstalling. Just a guess. -- Cheers, Thomas. Sic transit gloria mundi. (Latin for: Gloria threw up on the bus on Monday.) http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
2/7/2006 5:09 AM Hi Greg, On 2/6/2006 Greg Strong wrote: GS I still get the same error message on installation from the MSI file GS when I change my data drive from 'X' to 'W'. See attached 'PNG' file. GS The MSI has to be picking up the old mail partition drive from GS somewhere in the registry on installation. The relevant question is GS where? It looks like some tedious work ahead. I would probably do a registry search on [x:] as my next step. Do you recall which version of TB! created the backup? -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.70.06 Beta on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.51 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hallo Greg, On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 22:58:10 -0600GMT (6-2-2006, 5:58 +0100, where I live), you wrote: You're definitely misunderstanding me. Only the registry settings for the account that's used for uninstalling will be cleaned. For all other accounts the settings will be kept in the registry. (admin or restricted rights doesn't matter) GS Could you be more specific on the respective registry keys. This GS maybe my problem with my test per GS mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AFAIK All registry keys are deleted. GS I thought if you just deleted the 'RIT' key and the subkeys in the GS registry, TB was clean from your registry. Maybe you're using BayesIt? That stores stuff in the registry too. And when you installed that seperately from TB (as it used to be distributed in a separate parcel) then TB's uninstall might not undelete it. And when you install the full TB distro, it might try to restore that to an old path. But that's just guessing on my side. I only can say that the last time I uninstalled TB, it came clean. GS The only logical conclusion is that TB is in other parts of the GS registry and the TB MSI installer is not as clean as we may believe, GS or please inform me. Well, consider what I said in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ,- [ ] | In the earlier .msi's not everything went as smooth as it should and I | remember that the control panel showed multiple installed TB versions. | But that was (mostly?) a beta issue. `- It's also possible that you've still got some remnants from those days lingering around. -- Groetjes, Roelof Move away from the tagline. You have ten seconds to comply. The Bat! 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpKNNr5DuJM4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
2/6/2006 7:25 AM Hi Greg, On 2/5/2006 Greg Strong wrote: GS The only logical conclusion is that TB is in other parts of the GS registry and the TB MSI installer is not as clean as we may believe, GS or please inform me. After uninstalling TB perform a registry search on [The Bat!] and be prepared for an eye opener -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.70.06 Beta on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.51 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Roelof, On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 02:44:19 +0100 GMT (06/02/2006, 08:44 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF I am talking about one Windows account: Admin only. RO In that case TB uninstalls clean. That's fine then. RO Provided that you didn't use a long path of upgrades. Of course I did. But then, I'm not going to uninstall TB, I just wanted to know whether any new user who installs it for trial purposes and then decides otherwise, will not get a clean uninstall. You've answered that question to my satisfaction. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: It doesn't matter if you are heavily outnumbered in a fight involving martial arts - your enemies will wait patiently to attack you one by one by dancing around in a threatening manner until you have knocked them out. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Software quality (was: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list)
Hello Paul, On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 22:59:20 -0500 GMT (06/02/2006, 10:59 +0700 GMT), Paul Van Noord wrote: PVN It is a rare program that removes itself completely from the registry. TF Benchmarking is measuring oneself against the best, not the worst. PVN Rare is a measure of reality not quality. Yes. But quality is what we strive for. Hence, we should look at the best and not at the worst and measure ourselves against it. PVN For example, Norton's leaves hundreds of entries. TF I hope you don't mean that it's OK for TB to do the same, then. PVN Absolutely not. I didn't think so. PVN Get a good registry cleaning program and you will see how PVN programs leave their trash behind. TF It's a sign of software quality that it uninstalls clean and that such TF registry cleaners are not necessary. I just wanted to know whether TB TF lives up to this quality. PVN Registry cleaners exist because of need. Since I can't make the rules PVN I look for ways to live with them. That's the sad reality with many software products. Roelof already said that TB is better. -- Cheers, Thomas. Um zu antworten, bitte die From-Zeile mit ROT13 bearbeiten. Danach mit MD5 hashen, zeichenweise den ASCII-Code um 2 erhoehen (mod 57) und erneut um 63 erhoehen. Dann mit der urspruenglichen Adresse x-oren. Schliesslich am Ergebnis erfreuen und so antworten wie gewohnt. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Software quality (was: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list)
2/6/2006 11:34 AM Hi Thomas, On 2/6/2006 Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Yes. But quality is what we strive for. Hence, we should look at the TF best and not at the worst and measure ourselves against it. The only clean uninstalls I've seen in recent history were from programs that do not write to the registry. TF That's the sad reality with many software products. Roelof already TF said that TB is better. After uninstalling TB perform a registry search on [The Bat!] and be prepared for an eye opener. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.70.06 Beta on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.51 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 05-Feb-2006 at 04:04 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: OK. But if you don't work as a limited user but always log in as an administrator (as is the Windows default), will TB uninstall completely? I don't know. I never uninstalled TB completely. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Science may be described as the art of systematic oversimplification - the art of discerning what we may with advantage omit. -- Karl Popper Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hallo Thomas, On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 10:04:25 +0700GMT (5-2-2006, 4:04 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TF OK. But if you don't work as a limited user but always log in as an TF administrator (as is the Windows default), will TB uninstall TF completely? No. 1) The program, will be uninstalled (that's a yes part) 2) The message base won't be deleted (that's a no part, even though you could discuss whether a proper uninstall should delete the message base or should leave it alone as it is user data) 3) The TB registry settings for the uninstalling account are deleted (That's a yes again) 4) TB registry settings for other accounts (no matter whether they're admin or restricted rights) that have used TB won't be deleted (That's a no part) 5) The setting that TB is the default mail client will be reset for all users. (That's a yes part, but actually that's caused by the the fact that Windows cannot accept the situation that TB is the default mail client for user1, but that user2 uses Thunderbird) -- Groetjes, Roelof Say 95*, Wish I Never Ditched Other Working Software. The Bat! 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpm6zFP2SyaZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hallo Thomas, On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 10:02:43 +0700GMT (5-2-2006, 4:02 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TF True, but are you saying that if you use Add/Remove programs TB will TF not uninstall everything? PVN Yes. TF That's a bad behaviour. It's a Windows restriction. 1)When both you and your wife are using the same system and you want to run a(ll) program(s) with user dependent settings than that stuff should be kept in the user part of the registry. Users can't access each others registry settings as they're always using the 'current user' part of the registry. Of course it is possible to access the settings for other users as admin (and you need to be logged on as admin to undelete TB), but Windows kind of frowns on that behaviour. 2)Apart from the above it has always been a discussion point whether an uninstall procedure should remove data that were not created during the installation. And though the first run on the installing account could be considered part of the install procedure, the running of TB in a different Windows account would definitely be no part of that. 3)Also there's the point that uninstall procedures only delete the items that the install log says that have been installed. The access to that log is usually read only for users with restricted rights. So their first run can't add those data to the install log. As an additional bonus you'd get confusion in your install log, because every account would claim to add keys to the 'current user' part of the registry. ;-) 4)Let's suppose you're running TB v3 from H:\Program Files\The Bat! and your wife runs v2 from W:\Program Files\The Bat! (H: for husband and W: for wife), because she doesn't like the new filtering system. And now we've got this really smart uninstall procedure that searches all user parts of the registry for pieces of TB's settings. Do you really expect that it would be so smart that it could take something like this in account? -- Groetjes, Roelof I'm going to get drunk for a week, sober up and then get drunk for a month again - Hawkeye Pierce The Bat! 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpTBl4bCkrEU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Roelof, On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 16:42:08 +0100 GMT (05/02/2006, 22:42 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF OK. But if you don't work as a limited user but always log in as an TF administrator (as is the Windows default), will TB uninstall TF completely? RO No. RO 1) The program, will be uninstalled (that's a yes part) RO 2) The message base won't be deleted (that's a no part, even though ROyou could discuss whether a proper uninstall should delete the ROmessage base or should leave it alone as it is user data) I cna live with that, as I can delete the directory if I am so inclined. In fact, I think the message base itself should not be deleted without specific confirmation anyway. So that you can still import it into another mail client if you wish. I was thinking of registry entries and files spread all over the system. RO 3) The TB registry settings for the uninstalling account are deleted RO(That's a yes again) RO 4) TB registry settings for other accounts (no matter whether they're ROadmin or restricted rights) that have used TB won't be deleted RO(That's a no part) Assuming I don't use limited Windows accounts, all registry entries for all TB accounts will be deleted, right? Or am I misunderstanding you? RO 5) The setting that TB is the default mail client will be reset for ROall users. (That's a yes part, but actually that's caused by the ROthe fact that Windows cannot accept the situation that TB is the ROdefault mail client for user1, but that user2 uses Thunderbird) Again, this refers to limited Windows users' accounts right? So, TB uninstalls clean if I don't use Windows users accounts, except for the message base? If so, all is fine. -- Cheers, Thomas. Warum hatte Bach so viele Kinder, Kant jedoch kein einziges? - Weil Bach sich auf die Kunst der Fuge verstand, waehrend Kant nur das Ding an sich betrachtet hat. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Roelof, On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 17:12:09 +0100 GMT (05/02/2006, 23:12 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF True, but are you saying that if you use Add/Remove programs TB will TF not uninstall everything? PVN Yes. TF That's a bad behaviour. RO It's a Windows restriction. That's clear, I wasn't thinking of different Windows users at the time. -- Cheers, Thomas. You should never kiss a girl unless you have enough bucks or buy her a big ring and her own VCR, 'cause she'll want to have videos of the wedding. (Jim, 10) http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hallo Thomas, On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 23:30:58 +0700GMT (5-2-2006, 17:30 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RO 4) TB registry settings for other accounts (no matter whether they're ROadmin or restricted rights) that have used TB won't be deleted RO(That's a no part) TF Assuming I don't use limited Windows accounts, all registry entries TF for all TB accounts will be deleted, right? Or am I misunderstanding TF you? You're definitely misunderstanding me. Only the registry settings for the account that's used for uninstalling will be cleaned. For all other accounts the settings will be kept in the registry. (admin or restricted rights doesn't matter) RO 5) The setting that TB is the default mail client will be reset for ROall users. (That's a yes part, but actually that's caused by the ROthe fact that Windows cannot accept the situation that TB is the ROdefault mail client for user1, but that user2 uses Thunderbird) TF Again, this refers to limited Windows users' accounts right? No. This refers to all Windows users accounts. It's just the way Windows works. It's no failing of TB. It's just a concept that isn't fully thought through. TF So, TB uninstalls clean if I don't use Windows users accounts, except TF for the message base? If so, all is fine. TB uninstalls clean when you don't use multiple Windows logins. -- Groetjes, Roelof 0100111011010110000111 - Well, computers think it's funny. The Bat! 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpdE4qjQpngz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
2/5/2006 6:16 PM Hi Thomas, On 2/4/2006 Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF That's a bad behaviour. But wait, let me reply to Alexander first TF before making up my mind. It is a rare program that removes itself completely from the registry. For example, Norton's leaves hundreds of entries. Get a good registry cleaning program and you will see how programs leave their trash behind. I just un-installed Peachtree Complete Accounting and it took almost two hours to remove the hundreds of entries left behind in the registry. I then ran RegSeeker and found dozens more that were missed. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.70.06 Beta on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.51 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Roelof, On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 23:28:42 +0100 GMT (06/02/2006, 05:28 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO 4) TB registry settings for other accounts (no matter whether they're ROadmin or restricted rights) that have used TB won't be deleted RO(That's a no part) TF Assuming I don't use limited Windows accounts, all registry entries TF for all TB accounts will be deleted, right? Or am I misunderstanding TF you? RO You're definitely misunderstanding me. RO Only the registry settings for the account that's used for RO uninstalling will be cleaned. For all other accounts the settings will RO be kept in the registry. (admin or restricted rights doesn't matter) I am talking about one Windows account: Admin only. No limited accounts, no user accounts, just the way it came out of the box. If you are talking about TB accounts, then we have a misunderstanding: I am talking about uninstaling the program, not deleting an account. So, what are other accounts? TF So, TB uninstalls clean if I don't use Windows users accounts, except TF for the message base? If so, all is fine. RO TB uninstalls clean when you don't use multiple Windows logins. That's exactly what the question was, thanks for answering. Please enlighten me what you meant above. However, Greg just said in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] that after uninstalling, you have to clean the registry, so that seems to contradict what you are saying. He also seems to be onto some other entries or files that TB leaves behind. -- Cheers, Thomas. Hilf einem Freund in der Not und er wird sich an dich erinnern, wenn er wieder in Not ist. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Paul, On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 18:17:58 -0500 GMT (06/02/2006, 06:17 +0700 GMT), Paul Van Noord wrote: TF That's a bad behaviour. But wait, let me reply to Alexander first TF before making up my mind. PVN It is a rare program that removes itself completely from the registry. Benchmarking is measuring oneself against the best, not the worst. PVN For example, Norton's leaves hundreds of entries. I hope you don't mean that it's OK for TB to do the same, then. PVN Get a good registry cleaning program and you will see how PVN programs leave their trash behind. It's a sign of software quality that it uninstalls clean and that such registry cleaners are not necessary. I just wanted to know whether TB lives up to this quality. -- Cheers, Thomas. Reality is a crutch for people who can't face drugs. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hallo Thomas, On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 08:28:31 +0700GMT (6-2-2006, 2:28 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TF I am talking about one Windows account: Admin only. In that case TB uninstalls clean. Provided that you didn't use a long path of upgrades. In the earlier .msi's not everything went as smooth as it should and I remember that the control panel showed multiple installed TB versions. But that was (mostly?) a beta issue. When I uninstalled in order to switch to OTFE everything went smooth, but before that time I already had cleaned the remnants of old trials. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vacancy. (I came, I saw, I managed to find a room.) The Bat! 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpsOm4iW3Rum.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
2/5/2006 10:56 PM Hi Thomas, On 2/5/2006 Thomas Fernandez wrote: PVN It is a rare program that removes itself completely from the registry. TF Benchmarking is measuring oneself against the best, not the worst. Rare is a measure of reality not quality. PVN For example, Norton's leaves hundreds of entries. TF I hope you don't mean that it's OK for TB to do the same, then. Absolutely not. PVN Get a good registry cleaning program and you will see how PVN programs leave their trash behind. TF It's a sign of software quality that it uninstalls clean and that such TF registry cleaners are not necessary. I just wanted to know whether TB TF lives up to this quality. Registry cleaners exist because of need. Since I can't make the rules I look for ways to live with them. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.70.06 Beta on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.51 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 04-Feb-2006 at 00:56 you (Mary Bull) wrote: This box is on top of the message list. I cannot remove it by ticking/unticking View/Toolbars/Quick Search. Can you right-click it? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Thoughts, like fleas, jump from man to man. But they don't bite everybody. -- Stanislaw Lem Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Mary, Saturday, February 4, 2006, 3:45:15 AM, you wrote: MB Including msgfinder.def I don't have that one. You might try to move it into a zip-file or another directory and restart TB! -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 0:42:23) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Alexander! On Saturday, February 04, 2006, 3:14 AM, you wrote: This box is on top of the message list. I cannot remove it by ticking/unticking View/Toolbars/Quick Search. Can you right-click it? Yes, and I get a context menu: _ Find nextCtrl + Enter Find previousShift + Ctrl + Enter Filter Enter Hide Esc Cancel filter (which is greyed out) Cut Copy Paste Select all But none of these do anything, even if one has typed something into the box--which *does* get the cursor when one focuses on it and clicks with the left mouse button. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Mark! On Saturday, February 04, 2006, 4:14 AM, you wrote: MB Including msgfinder.def I don't have that one. You might try to move it into a zip-file or another directory and restart TB! Will do and report back. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Mark! On Saturday, February 04, 2006, 4:14 AM, you wrote: MB Including msgfinder.def I don't have that one. You might try to move it into a zip-file or another directory and restart TB! Actually, it was mfinder.def. I made a typo by analogy to msgview.def. I closed TB!. Renamed mfinder.def to oldmfinder.def. Closed the directory and relaunched TB! The unwanted box in the middle of the message list is still there. (I've gone back and renamed mfinder.def, taking off the old that I'd added to the name in order to test.) All the .def files in TB!'s main directory say they were last modified in March or April of 2005. mfinder.def was last modified on April 4, 2005. So I think these modifications are RitLabs work on the various betas it released last spring and have nothing to do with my current problem. It's a puzzle. I'm going to try to see if Add/Remove brings up the msi installation window and try a Repair. I wish I knew what I have done to cause that little box, though. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Mary! On Saturday, February 04, 2006, 5:54 AM, you wrote: I'm going to try to see if Add/Remove brings up the msi installation window and try a Repair. For the record: Add/Remove says I have The Bat! 3.65.03. The msi Install window went through its paces when I selected Repair. This had no effect on the unwanted box in the middle of the message list. (And did not, of course, affect the beta exe--Help/About still says I have 3.70.07.) I am now out of ideas again, on what to do about it. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 04-Feb-2006 at 12:34 you (Mary Bull) wrote: But none of these do anything, even if one has typed something into the box--which *does* get the cursor when one focuses on it and clicks with the left mouse button. Try to open regedit and look at this key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Toolbars\tbSearch Here are the contents of mine: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Toolbars\tbSearch] Rev=dword:0002 Visible=dword:0001 DockedTo=MsgDock DockRow=dword: DockPos=dword:026c FloatLeft=dword:0368 FloatTop=dword:0177 FloatRightX=dword: Something must be wrong with yours. Maybe we can find it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos? -- Igor Stravinsky Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello all, Saturday, February 4, 2006, Mary Bull wrote: Actually, it was mfinder.def. I made a typo by analogy to msgview.def. I closed TB!. Renamed mfinder.def to oldmfinder.def. Closed the directory and relaunched TB! The unwanted box in the middle of the message list is still there. (I've gone back and renamed mfinder.def, taking off the old that I'd added to the name in order to test.) All the .def files in TB!'s main directory say they were last modified in March or April of 2005. mfinder.def was last modified on April 4, 2005. So I think these modifications are RitLabs work on the various betas it released last spring and have nothing to do with my current problem. remove all .def files except tbuser.def from main directory, these files were used in 3.50 betaversions and now they are included in exe. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
2/4/2006 7:07 AM Hi Mary, On 2/4/2006 Mary Bull wrote: MB All the .def files in TB!'s main directory say they were last modified in MB March or April of 2005. mfinder.def was last modified on April 4, 2005. MB So I think these modifications are RitLabs work on the various betas MB it released last spring and have nothing to do with my current MB problem. MB It's a puzzle. Hold down your [Windows] key and quickly press [f]. This brings up the find dialog so you can search for [ *.def ] on your hard drive. This will show all *.def files and their location. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.70.06 Beta on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.51 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Alexander! On Saturday, February 04, 2006, 6:02 AM, you wrote: But none of these do anything, even if one has typed something into the box--which *does* get the cursor when one focuses on it and clicks with the left mouse button. Try to open regedit and look at this key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Toolbars\tbSearch Here are the contents of mine: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Toolbars\tbSearch] Rev=dword:0002 Visible=dword:0001 DockedTo=MsgDock DockRow=dword: DockPos=dword:026c FloatLeft=dword:0368 FloatTop=dword:0177 FloatRightX=dword: Something must be wrong with yours. Maybe we can find it. All the regedit entries in my key, HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Toolbars\tbSearch in the order they appear, are: Default REG_SZ(value not set) DockedTo REG_SZ+ DockPos REG_DWORD 0x0174 (372) DockRow REG_DWORD 0x (0) FloatLeftREG_DWORD 0x037e (894) FloatRightX REG_DWORD 0x (0) FloatTop REG_DWORD 0x00ae (174) Rev REG_DWORD 0x0002 (2) Visible REG_DWORD 0x (0) Some match yours, Alexander, and some do not. Can you tell anything from the differences? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Marek! On Saturday, February 04, 2006, 6:09 AM, you wrote: remove all .def files except tbuser.def from main directory, these files were used in 3.50 betaversions and now they are included in exe. Thanks, Marek. Note: I do not currently have a tbuser.def. I can't get the shortcut part of Customise to work, ever since I failed to put a shortcut into the Quick Search toolbar and ended up with the mysterious box in the middle of my message list. I will now go remove all the .def files from TB!'s main directory. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 04-Feb-2006 at 13:33 you (Mary Bull) wrote: DockedTo=MsgDock DockedTo REG_SZ+ Maybe this is the problem? If you replace your + with MsgDock (don't forget to close TB before you do it), what happens? PS: if you have regedit open, right-click the registry branch and select export, this will result in a .reg file that you can open (and copy and paste!) with an editor. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) It's unfortunate, but the way the American people are, now that they have developed all of this capability, instead of taking advantage of it, they'll probably just piss it all away. -- President Lyndon B. Johnson, speaking about project Apollo Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Paul! On Saturday, February 04, 2006, 6:12 AM, you wrote: Hold down your [Windows] key and quickly press [f]. This brings up the find dialog so you can search for [ *.def ] on your hard drive. This will show all *.def files and their location. Thanks, Paul. I did indeed find tbuser.DEF under MAIL. Don't know how I overlooked it last night, except that I was tired and I was looking for lower-case .def extension. Evidently this extension is not case sensitive. I have renamed it to recenttbuser.DEF. And the box in the middle of my message list is gone. I am now going to delete it, since I don't need any of the Customise changes I made yesterday--I was merely testing. Thanks a mil to everyone--Roelof, Mark, Alexander, Marek, Peter, and Paul! (If I missed anyone, a big thank you also to the forgotten helper.) The mysterious box is gone! :hooray: Or rather, it is back up on the toolbar where it belongs. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
Hello Alexander! On Saturday, February 04, 2006, 6:46 AM, you wrote: DockedTo=MsgDock DockedTo REG_SZ+ Maybe this is the problem? If you replace your + with MsgDock (don't forget to close TB before you do it), what happens? Well, I have done this, but it isn't a fair test--I had finally found tbuser.DEF under MAIL--just where Peter and Mark said it would be, but I was too tired to spot it with the caps extension last night. Renaming it solved the problem. And then I thoughtlessly deleted it, preventing further testing. I suppose I could get it back out of the Recycle Bin. sigh PS: if you have regedit open, right-click the registry branch and select export, this will result in a .reg file that you can open (and copy and paste!) with an editor. :-) I can't seem to make this work. It wants to copy to My Documents, but asks me for a file name and I don't know what file name to use. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Quick Search window in the middle of the message list
2/4/2006 8:39 AM Hi Mary, On 2/4/2006 Mary Bull wrote: MB Thanks a mil to everyone--Roelof, Mark, Alexander, Marek, Peter, and MB Paul! (If I missed anyone, a big thank you also to the forgotten MB helper.) For many reasons I keep my mail base on a separate partition with all of my data files. Windows is on Drive C:, All data is on Drive D: and my programs are installed on Drive E:. This enhances performance and security for the data files and makes configuring a backup very easy. When a new TB! MSI is released, I do a clean install of TB! by running the uninstall from Add/Remove Programs and then deleting the TB! folder under E:\Program Files\. I also clean all references to TB! from the registry. This makes a clean playing field for the new MSI. When installing the MSI I choose to create a new account using the name and path for my primary account. TB! wonderfully brings in everything as though I had used a Backup file to create the account. When the new install is running I then choose to create a new account for each of my other accounts using their existing name and TB! again does a wonderful job of using the previous setup for these accounts. Since the MSI's set all the parameters for TB! I know there is no obsolete stuff cluttering the hard drive and possibly interfering with the new installation. So far, this has worked flawlessly for me. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.70.06 Beta on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.51 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
