Re: Received time should be rectified

2003-07-23 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
 The Bat is a POP3 mail client (IMAP access is secondary, and
 incomplete). The POP3 servers don't give to the client any kind of
 indication of the time of arrival of the message. So there's simply
 no way that The Bat! (or any other pop3 client) can show you that
 time.

DK Order in which messages are downloaded from server and stored in TB!s
DK message database. That would be don't sort setting or sort by place
DK in database. Simplest of all. It shouldn't be _that hard_ to
DK implement, would it? :)

I don't understand what you are asking for in that paragraph, but I
guess it has nothing to do with Received-in-the-Server Time. Am I
right?

If you want the option to sort messages based on the order of entry to
TB's database, then sort by Received Time ! The messages are
inserted to the database in the same order they are received!

DK Look at first and second received line - server1.ouroboros.hr is my
DK mail server. I'm not an expert, but isn't 23:10:11 time when my server
DK received your message? Simply looking at the date and time of first
DK received line in message should do it.

You are probably right. As long as the Received headers have a
standard format, one that warrants that the date and time of arrival
can be always found at the end of the header. A very informal and
quick survey in my own inbox shows that it's right, but you should
check the corresponding RFC to be sure.

I would suggest that you add this request to the Bugtrack database (in
the wishlist) but not as a rectification of the received time,
because I think that it's ok as it is now. I would ask for a third
Timestamp column in the list: Created time, Received Time, and the
new Received in Server Time.

 You say that you have seen this functionality in all mail clients
 before TB. May I ask wich one?. I really don't think that can be
 right.

DK Eudora. By default, messages are not sorted (or, they're sorted as
DK placed in database) - and then eventually you can sort them by time.
DK I don't know which time (received?) but I don't remember any problems
DK with sorting messages in Eudora. In TB! I'm never quite sure.

So: you say that Eudora had this functionality. But you are not sure
if it did :)

DK And when I accidentaly delete message, it's a pain to find it again -
DK in Eudora, I simply switched to Trash and checked the message at the
DK bottom of the list.

Great for Eudora. And what kind of problem do you have with TB?


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Re: Received time should be rectified

2003-07-23 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

 I am at a loss to understand the difference between Received order
 and Database order. Except that Database order would logically
 ignore received order when moving messages into a different folder..

DK Yes, that's it. Sometimes I really would like to be able to move
DK message to another folder, and then switch to that folder and find
DK that message on the bottom of the list, instead of having to search
DK through thousands of messages to find it.

DK Like when I accidentaly hit delete button and move message to Trash -
DK digging it back from the Trash is frustrating experience.

Well, at last I understand what you want!

You want a Time of entry to this folder. I agree it would be useful
to some people. I think you should add it to the wishlist system.



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Re: Received time should be rectified

2003-07-22 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

DK This pisses me off with TB too. In all mail clients before TB, I
DK sorted my mail by time of arrival - time of arrival on server. If I
DK sort in any other way, by time created or by time received, I always
DK seem to read replies to messages before messages themselves.

I think that what you are asking for is simply impossible :)

The Bat is a POP3 mail client (IMAP access is secondary, and
incomplete). The POP3 servers don't give to the client any kind of
indication of the time of arrival of the message. So there's simply no
way that The Bat! (or any other pop3 client) can show you that time.

As someone else told before in this thread, you could use regular
expressions to extract that time from the Received headers in the
message kludges, but I think that would be tricky, and you won't see the
result in the message list anyway.

You say that you have seen this functionality in all mail clients
before TB. May I ask wich one?. I really don't think that can be
right.

Except (maybe) for the combination of Outlook and a hotmail.com
account: Outlook (when talking to hotmail servers) uses an access
protocol that is different from POP3, although for the user might seem
like a regular account. I wouldn't be surprised to see that Outlook
(in that case) shows the time of arrival to hotmail as the received
time of the message. But that's a proprietary protocol exclusive to
Microsoft, and no one else implements it.


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Re: Nothing to send?

2003-07-14 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

AM - - Now just use the check mail for all command. If there's message to
AM send in the Outbox, then they will be sent as well. You can setup a
AM system hot-key for the check command as well.

even with the options setup like this, I have seen it happen here.
It's a very erratic but recurring bug, unfortunately.


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Re: The Bat!acting super bizarre

2003-06-20 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
JPCMD I have plenty of memory, etc.  I just uninstalled and installed 162b,
JPCMD same thing.

PM How about trying the latest release 1.62r? I'm sure they have reasons
PM for publishing new releases... ;-)

apparently, he is using that release. You are the one who's not :)

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Re: Common folders - outbox?

2003-03-24 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
MLW Hello TBUDL,

MLW   When I choose to forward or send something that is housed in a comon
MLW   folder, what outbox is it sent from?

It seems to be random. I have entered a ticket in the wish list a few
days age about this subject. If you want you can add a comment here:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view_bug_advanced_page.php?f_id=0001231

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Threading by reference

2003-03-09 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
In the interview

http://www.thebat.cz/interview.htm

I found this question:

,-
|  Will v2.0 finally support threading by References: headers only (i.e. there is 
no in-reply-To: header).
| Yes. We did not do it in the current version because of the message base format... 
`-

Does anybody know what they are talking about? :) I don't know of any
problem with threading by references. Do you?

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Re: Threading by reference

2003-03-09 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

 Will v2.0 finally support threading by References:
 headers only (i.e. there is no in-reply-To: header).

 Yes. We did not do it in the current version because of the message base format...

 Does anybody know what they are talking about? :) I don't know of any
 problem with threading by references. Do you?

TF I think this is the thing I meant with TB not threading the reference
TF headers from Novell Groupware correctly.


I didn't read it. Was it in TBUDL?

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Re: System check by email?

2003-02-24 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
G Now how would I send mail that I have collected in folder for
G forwarding and would it be possible to generate a status report?

about forwarding certain mails, I would make a filter that saves the
text of those incoming email into a text file, using a template that
includes all the relevant information (date, from, to, subject, text,
something else if you want) and telling The Bat! to concatenate each
email to end of that text file.

Then make another filter that answers to your order (maybe a message
with send status in the subject, or something more secret) and
replies with a message that includes the text file in the body of
the message. That way you will receive a file with all your emails,
one after the other. It's not exactly forwarding, but it gets close.
Keep in mind that you won't receive the attachments of those messages.

If you think you'll receive a lot of emails, you may want to reset
that text file to avoid transmitting again and again the same messages.
To do that you can create a 3rd filter, with another command like
erase history that saves the text of the incoming mail to the text
file (like the first filter) but with an empty template (so that it
doesn't save anything) and with the option to overwrite the file
activated.

I hope this helps you, if you need help to write the filters just
tell.

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Re: System check by email?

2003-02-24 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
RMR If you think you'll receive a lot of emails, you may want to reset
RMR that text file to avoid transmitting again and again the same messages.
RMR To do that you can create a 3rd filter, with another command like
RMR erase history that saves the text of the incoming mail to the text
RMR file (like the first filter) but with an empty template (so that it
RMR doesn't save anything) and with the option to overwrite the file
RMR activated.

G The resetting the file might prove tricky. I will check the help files
G and see if I can find something there to do this.

I think this will do it (it clears the file c:\tmp\history.txt when
receiving a message with reset history in the subject):

BeginFilter
Name: Reset History
Active: 1
Source: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Target: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 20reset history
Actions: faExport,faoExportOver
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: c:\tmp\history.txt
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: \0D\0A
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter


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Re: problem ssl myrealbox.com

2003-02-17 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
WP i've try somany times to fecth my account work on POP3S myrealbox.com 
(pop3.myrealbox.com:995), and it allways return the following report. could anyone 
help??

a few days ago they were having problems with one of their incoming
smtp servers. Maybe they have problems now with the pop3s, check their
home page, they announce this kind of things in a text box on the
bottom of the page.

(the pop3 servers are working fine, but you probably know that
already)

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Read filters

2003-01-02 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
I'm starting to use the read-filters and noticed that the ctrl-M
shortcut doesn't trigger them (I have to open the msg in a new window
to execute the filter).

I think I'll add it to the bugtrack site, but before I'd like to know
if I'm the only one seeing this. Maybe it's fixed the last builds
(I'm still using 1.60c). Do you see the same?

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Re: OT: Opera (was: Re: Opera 7, TheBat!, FAQ, DOM)

2002-11-19 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
MDP Hash: SHA1

MDP Hi Peter,

MDP @19-Nov-2002, 22:18 +0100 (21:18 UK time) Peter Fjelsten [PF] in
MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

D BTW, I am not sure Marck already changed the FAQ proper since O7 is
D still in beta - and it isn't really that usable due to its very
D unfinished state.

PF I disagree - I haven't used anything else since O7 came out.

MDP The fact is, it will take time to modify the code to work for Opera
MDP 7 - time that I won't have until the weekend.

I don't understand: didn't Paddy say that the FAQ works ok with Opera
7? what is it you want to fix?

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Re: THEBAT.EXE - NO DISK

2002-11-11 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
JD I used to have my TB installed on Drive C: and all the mail data
JD stored on Drive D. My C: drive crashed so I now only have 1 drive, and
JD after reinstalling and restoring backup. I have found every instance
JD of reference to D:\whatever in the program, and made sure it's all
JD pointing in the right place, but I must be missing one that I can't
JD find. My D: drive now is a CDROM.

I usually use a little program from Pc Magazine called 'Change of
Address 2'. It's free, and you can find it in the donwnloads section
of www.pcmag.com

It scans the registry and .ini files for a certain path (d:\whatever
for example) and changes it to a different one (C:\...)

If you don't find it in the site, send me a pm and I'll mail it to
you.

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Re: unread mail icon

2002-10-25 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
KA I previously expressed an interest in learning how to configure TB! so
KA the icon it shows when I have unread mail is not animated but does
KA differ from that shown when I have no unread mail. Unless I've missed
KA something in the replies and other information I have consulted, there
KA is no way to do this.

I use a little program that shows an envelope icon in the tray notif.
area (screen-captured from Outlook's ;) ) and launch it with a filter
that caches every incoming mail. When I double-click the icon, it
makes TB show up and dissapears from the TNA. That way it behaves like
Outlook, which is the way I like.

The only difference with Outlook is that the icon doesn't dissapear
when I read a message. It can be implemented with Read filters, but it
has the inconvenience that you need to set a filter for each folder,
because of a shortcoming in TB!. And I have a lot of folders, so it
isn't practical for me.

The program is 200kb, so if you want it, I can send it by private
mail.

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Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
RMR what do you mean by that?
A What I MEAN is, that if there is a message board in place that there needs
A to be (or SHOULD be) moderators from different time zones.

of course, I guess I wasn't paying attention when reading your message
:)

A If someone is having technical difficulties with TB! and seeks help on the
A message board, I would think it would be incredibly annoying to have to wait
A a full day or whatever to get a response if there was no one to respond to
A their query within their time zone, especially if it is one which is
A hindering their use of TB!.

I think you're taking this too seriusly, maybe. If you think a good
web forum should give you a good answer before your bed time, I think
this is going to be a very stressfull hobby for you. At least try to
get paid by RIT ! :)

In TBUDL we may have something like that because it already has a lot
of subscribers from all over the world. But I wouldn't qualify a forum
or discussion list as a bad one just for having to wait a day for an
answer. And maybe two or three days to have several opinions and a
consensus.

A I am sure, given time, that many users (those knowledgeable and those
A moderately knowledgeable) will frequent the board and be able to offer help
A at all times of the day...

given a reasonable time to grow up the forum, yes.

A whichever time of the day it happens to be in your neck of the woods. But
A until then, it would be a wise thing to have moderators from different time
A zones frequenting the board.

yes, it would be nice to have 2 or 3 moderators. But I wouldn't delay
the start of the board just because there's only one moderator. It's
just not so bad to have inappropriate content posted for a few hours

And I think you're confusing two things: One thing is the need to have
several moderators covering different time zones. The other thing is
the need to have a good quantity of contributors, who can answer to
questions in a timely manner. But moderators participate in
discussions as any other user, and it's not their job to be 'on guard'
like a doctor, waiting for a patient to arrive :)

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Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
A I'm not taking this too seriously, I'm *being* serious about it because
A a message board involves just a ltle bit more than just setting up the
A scripting and plopping it on the server and waiting for traffic.
A I've run a web business since '95 and hosted many message boards; including
A ones on my own server. I'm sure others on the lists have done so as well,
A so I am sure they know of which I speak.

I don't know your site or your business, but I will guess that the
message boards where set up to provide a commercial service (again,
I'm just guessing). If that's true, then you or someone else had the
responsibility to provide a service, and to do it promptly.

But a TB! message board would be a hobby project, driven by
voluntaries, and you can't expect certain level of service in those
boards. You just hope to get it, like in TBUDL. And I think it will be
a good board.

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Re: Nothing to send

2002-10-23 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

 It happens to me too, since v1.59. I think it's been added to the
 buglist, but there's no fix to it yet.

TF The Connection Center is being completely overhauled, and the bugs and
TF wishes are closely looked at.

I guess you're talking about the misterius version 2. But I think this
bug should be addressed now, with a bugfix version. They have done
other things in the 1.6x releases that seem much more complex than
this. And not everyone is willing to wait for v2, or pay for it when
it arrives.


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Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
A And one *I* just thought of: The time zones.

what do you mean by that?

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Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
DZ So, feedback is needed: Good idea? Bad idea? Would you participate in a
DZ message board? Would you be interested in moderating a forum? How many
DZ forums would be required?

DZ So, let me know what you think of the idea. Thanks.

I wouldn't participate, but I think it's a good idea :)

I wouldn't participate because I have a dial up connection, and prefer
to download all the messages to read off-line, and take all the time I
want to read them and reply carefully.

But I think it's a great idea to have a web message board, because
it's a much better way to attract new users to TB!. And for the
newbies, I think it would be much friendlier and comfortable than this
high traffic list. I it would get search engines traffic, which is
always welcome.

I think you shouldn't wait to have a lot of favorable votes here. This
is an e-mail discussion list, and I guess most people prefer e-mail,
like me. But a web forum could be populated with a totally different
kind of people. If you, or someone else, is willing to be in charge of
administering the forum, then do it.

About how many forums there should be, for me the best is start with
one. Once the traffic gets high, you can start organizing with more
sections, maybe with the same structure we have here (TBUDL, TBTECH,
TBBETA, TBOT). Starting with more than one may be excessive, and
unproductive.


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Re: Nothing to send

2002-10-22 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
MG Hi,

MG Britt Malka wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 This happens often if I am already sending and I ask The Bat! to send
 again.

MG I've noticed that it happens every time after I interrupted the
MG sending session (the connection to the SMTP server). The Bat seems to
MG think that a message has been sent once a connection to the SMTP
MG server had been established. The Bat doesn't notice that the message
MG hadn't been sent at all. I have to restart the Bat to get the messages
MG sent.

It happens to me too, since v1.59. I think it's been added to the
buglist, but there's no fix to it yet.

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Re: General questions

2002-10-01 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

SM If  some third party should happen to reply to this message
SM off-list, my system will do the normal processing on it, unless I have
SM a  way  to  whitelist messageIDs, in which case, TB! will see that the
SM incoming In-Reply-To matches an outgoing MessageID.

you can create a list of the msgids of the messages you send using an
'outgoing filter' with the action 'Export to file', with a saving
template that only includes the msgid, obtained with regexp. If you
config the filter to append new data to the end of the file, you'll
have file in your disk with the list of msgids issued by your program.

What can you do with that file? I don't know :)

I can't find a way to read it in an incoming filter, but maybe there's
some way around

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Re: General questions

2002-09-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes


ACM It's better to just make a single filter, make it manual only and
ACM assign it a hotkey. Make it add the the sender address to your
ACM whitelist address book. Whenever you're replying to an address you
ACM wish to add, just hit the shortcut for the filter.

how about an 'Outgoing Filter' ?

It would white-list everyone you send a message to, and not exactly
everyone you reply to, but I guess it's close enough for most people.

And they are not tied to an specific folder, since they apply to
messages from the outbox.

I don't use it, so I'm not sure if it works, but I guess it should.


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Re: startup

2002-09-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

A Or a simple way to tell a firewall what to do?

every firewall has it's own command. ¿ Wich firewall are you using ?

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Re: General questions

2002-09-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes



SM Right; I don't see much point in restricting it to replies only.

SM Now, if outgoing messageid's could be whitelisted also...

what do you mean?


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Re: startup

2002-09-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes


RMR every firewall has it's own command. ¿ Wich firewall are you using ?

SM Some  firewalls  are  actually local networks; the way to turn off the
SM firewall is to also turn off the network.

SM Or,  it  could be a business/corporate network, outside his ability to
SM do anything about.

that's why I think he should just pull the plug on his
network-card/modem.


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Re: Wish list item

2002-09-27 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

W I'm too lazy to do all that dragging  editting. And with a mail
W server running on your system, the forwarding wouldn't even touch the
W net.

and with local delivery enabled, you don't even need the local mail
server

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Re: Someone in tight with the developers PLEASE let them know...

2002-09-24 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

RR Ideally I would like to see the addresses as they are added drop to a
RR new line so that you can see which ones at a glance that you've
RR already added (without having to use the address book display menu).

I agree that the addresses input and auto-complete handling is probably the
worst design example we can found in TB, and it should be fixed as
soon as posible, but I don't think we'll see it in a bugfix, and if
we're lucky we'll have to wait until v2, because I guess it must be a
difficult problem to fix.

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Re: Macros

2002-09-03 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

s 1. Assign the color
s 2. Park the message

s I have tried the View  Shortcut and assign Alt-L to the
s color but it did not do it on the message, but I also want
s to park the message.

s Any suggestion?

you should create a filter with those two functions, set it as 'Manual
only'  and assign it a hotkey in the Options page of the rules form.

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Re: email addresses in the archive

2002-08-29 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes


KA My concern is that personal email addresses are appearing on a
KA publicly available web page which could be the target of email
KA address harvesters.

MDP Not really. The page is a virtual page, constructed on-the-fly in
MDP response to clicking around and selecting viewing criteria.
MDP Addresses are not exposed in the conventional sense.

ok, that defeats the simpler harvesters, but an advanced one can still
obtain the page.

And email-viruses that scan the IE cache can find those pages too.

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Re: Problem with selective downloads....

2002-08-27 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

DS And I've tried a lot of different regexps, such as the following, but
DS mail with headers that shouldn't have been allow through still get
DS through.

why don't you send the headers of one of the messages so we can look
for the reason?

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Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check

2002-08-26 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

JS In fact, they recommended that I open the message from the
JS Web mail alternative.  Bad suggestion IMO

why is it a bad suggestion?

As far as I see it, it may be your only chance to read the message.
And if it's not private, I would send it to RIT labs to help them fix
the bug.

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Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check

2002-08-26 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

JS Unfortunately, Popcorn will not allow me to redirect that
JS message without first downloading it...

I think you won't find a program like that, because it goes beyond the
capabilities of the POP protocol. The protocol allows you to receive
and/or delete the mails in the server, but there's no command to
send/redirect an incoming mail.

Maybe if the mail server provides web access, you can use their site
to send the message.

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Re: HTML...

2002-08-20 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

AR Its  a proxy that kills ads, malicious javascript and stuff that like - consider
AR it  a  sanitiser for HTMl. You install it, point your web browser to use it as a
AR proxy and it cleans the html up in passing through

more important (for me): It scans the data using regular expressions,
so you can search for anything and replace it with anything else.

And it not only deals with the incoming data, but also the http
commands that come out of your pc.

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Re: Invalid Argument to date encode

2002-08-20 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes


SH Stupidly I've tried to display the birth-dates in the address book, to
SH work out which ones I had to delete. The result is I can no longer
SH open the AB! What files do I have to delete to wipe the address book
SH and start again?

I hope you didn't wipe it yet, because it's not neccesary!

Just close TB! and open the file AddrBook.ini in \Program Files\The
Bat!\mail

At the beginning you'll find a section similar to this (not exactly
the same):

,-
| [Columns]
| Count=6
| Column #1=241:-1
| Column #2=153:-100
| Column #3=97:5
| Column #4=100:18
| Column #5=110:7
| Column #6=100:8
`-

just replace it with

,-
| [Columns]
| Count=0
`-

and then open TB!. The address book will now have the default columns
configuration, and you'll be able to erase the defective items.


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Re: HTML...

2002-08-20 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

RMR more important (for me): It scans the data using regular expressions,
RMR so you can search for anything and replace it with anything else.

G Hi Ricardo,

G Why would you want to do such a thing with the website you want to view?

to avoid certain kinds of javascript that trigger popup ads, or
annoying animations, for example.

most of the Proxomitron rules look like:

 Search for this kind of code, replace it with this that does
 nothing.

That way you don't break the page, but just replace the parts that you
don't like with something you don't mind. For example, you can replace
a banner with a blank image.

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Re: POP b4 send

2002-08-19 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes


J I owned a pop3 email A/c (softhome.net)
J but it required me to pop the a/c first b4 I could send out any email

It seems you no longer use that account, but maybe it interests you
anyway: softhome no longer requires the 'pop before send', now you can
also use the standard SMTP Authentication using your pop3 username and
password.

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Re: FAQ and Opera

2002-08-19 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

DH Tried it myself a few minutes after I wrote my mail - DSL is so
DH swell! - and it worked. shows me that DOM is far more developed
DH in Opera than developers tell us.

ACM Yes. It's so swell that it masks the fact that the FAQ page ~100kb
ACM is reloaded each time you try to navigate through it with the
ACM buttons. This, of course shouldn't be, since the sub-pages are
ACM already loaded and don't need to be reloaded each time.

well, if the problem now is just a 'loading time problem' then there
must be something different in the DOM implementation of Opera,
because when I tried the FAQ a few months ago with Opera 6.00 or 6.01
it just didn't work at all, and it wasn't just a performance problem.

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Re: Printing Emails - Some HUGE, some microscopic

2002-08-19 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

GP  I've registered a handful of TB! for work and home.  They all do
GP  it.  At least with Xp anyway, and the president (my dear boss) is
GP  giving me a hard time about it.  He's also giving me a hard time
GP  about the Change ALL function in the spell checker failing to
GP  work.  I left a message on this list about that as well and never
GP  received a reply about that either.  Ah well.

I would try going directly to the RIT labs tech support, specially
about the printing problem, because maybe it only happens with certain
printers/drivers/OS and they may not be able to reproduce it. The
developers are very responsive, I'm sure they'll help you if you give
them the details of your problem.

Remember this is a users list, and the RIT people may not be reading
your posts here.

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Re: Some fun with Notes

2002-08-19 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

DH   Oh, the developers also added in their comments that Notes is *not*
DH   an e-mail application. Go, figure.

DH   www.iarchitect.com

it seems the domain is taken but the site is not there yet. Are you
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Re: HTML...

2002-08-19 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

AR Sh'mae tbudl,

AR Seeing  as  there  is  a lot of light and heat generated about HTML, anyone else
AR using Proxomitron on their windows boxes to kill ads and stuff?

yes, I do. And when I use IE instead of Opera, IE connects directly
without Proxomitron, and I can't believe the amount of garbage I avoid
using it :)

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Re: HTML...

2002-08-19 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

RMR yes, I do. And when I use IE instead of Opera, IE connects directly
RMR without Proxomitron, and I can't believe the amount of garbage I avoid
RMR using it :)

AR Do you think there is any point of pushing TB! developers towards this - or some
AR similar  system for rendering HTML? Much as I despise HTML mail there is a great
AR demand  for  it  from  some  people  - and if we have to have it, a nice package
AR behind it verifying and validating it would be great.

actually, I use Proxomitron to control popups, ads, and only a few
javascript, and those are controls that I think don't apply to email.
So I don't see them as posible features.

AR Basically  seeing  how  anally-retentive  TB!  is in rendering received HTML, it
AR would be very nice to see it do that magic on sent HTML. Then I wouldn't feel so
AR nervous about it.

about the render engine, I actually think it should be a bit less
'anally-retentive', because although I hate html mail, if those
inferior creatures out there want to use it their mails, I'd like to
see what they want to say :) This is in particular about the request
of on-line images, I don't want to see javasscript, vbscript or
any-script implemented in TB.

But don't get me wrong. I understand the privacy concerns, and think
any 'improvement' to the render engine should be optional and
de-activated by default, so anyone uses it at it's own risk.

About writing html in the TB, I don't need it, don't intend to use
it, and hope the TB developers don't lose precious time with it. But
I'm not that kind of people that opposes to features fanatically
because he doesn't want to use them. If v2 has html writing
capabilities, I won't care, all I ask is the ability to ignore them
and keep writting in plain text. What others do with their mails is
their problem.

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Re: Command Line

2002-08-14 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

DF Being able to automate the whole maintenance centre would be a welcome
DF feature for me.
DF At the moment I'm having to manually copy  compress the mail files.

'purge and compress' would be another good candidate for a new command line
option.

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Re: Redirect sets Reply-To to me

2002-08-11 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes


TF But one thing I would like to advise is that optional settings can be
TF overdone. Please have a look here:
TF http://www.zentrumderarbeit.org/TheBat%21/img/html-kit_preferences.gif
TF (180KB). Credit to Peter Palmreuther.

what's that?


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Re[2]: Selective Downloads - Kill Filter

2002-07-22 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El domingo 21 de julio de 2002, 16.49, Julian Beach (Lists) decía:

JBL What I would like is an addition in the log file for the account
JBL to say that x messages were deleted without downloading - at the
JBL moment, it only tells me the number of messages on the server,
JBL the number of new ones, and the number downloaded.

Unless I'm missing something, the 'number of new ones' less the
'number download' should be equal to the number of deleted messages.
It should be that way except when there's a connection error that
prevents TB from finishing the POP session correctly, but you should
see it clearly in the log.

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Re[2]: Filter signatures when writing to file

2002-07-17 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 17 de julio de 2002, 3.25, Peter Palmreuther decía:

PP If you don't already have a regular expression applied to your quotes
PP macro use this as a starting point:

PP %SETPATTREGEXP='(?is)(^-+ eGroups.*~-~.*-*_-$\s+){0,1}%-
PP (^-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?%-
PP (.*?)(^(- --\s*\n|--\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE)|\z)'%-
PP %REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%text'%SUBPATT='4'


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Filter signatures when writing to file

2002-07-16 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

Hi:

I have a 'Read Filter' that appends to a text file certain messages
that meet certain conditions, for archive purposes. The archive is
growing really fast, and I would like to cut the signatures
(everything below the '-- ') before writing the archive, just like the
%QUOTES macro does, but obviously without the Quote prefix in every
line.

This is the Save template that I use, I think is the default:

,- [ Save Message Template ]
| =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
| From:%OFromName %OFromAddr
| To:  %OToName %OToAddr
| Date:%ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn
| Subject: %OSubj
| Files:   %Attachments
| --===--
| %Text
| =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
| 
`-

Anyone knows what should I put instead of %Text to make it cut the
signatures?

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Re: AB_Format.rtf distribution?

2002-07-12 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El jueves 11 de julio de 2002, 14.34, Tim Musson decía:

TM Do you know if there are any distribution restrictions on the
TM   AB_Format.rtf file?  I have a yahoo group set up for building the
TM   Palm conduit, and would like to keep it in the files section.

what is that file?

if it explains the binary format of the TB's Address Book, I would be
interested in seeing that, since I would like to write a conduit for
the Palm.

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Re[4]: Missing Bat window - Help ?

2002-07-09 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 9 de julio de 2002, 9.56, Thomas M.  Corrigan decía:

TMC Good advice. The value of left is 4294966050,

well, your window is there, although it's a few kilometers out of the
screen :)

Change it to 0, or a low value. If your screen is 1024x800, for
example, then 'left' should be lower than 1024

TMC probably somehow due to using Object
TMC Desktops Control Center to have multiple desktops (handy program, but sometimes
TMC programs seem to get confused about where they should be.

so you have the same problem that I had, but with a diferent program.

It seems TB doesn't work well with 'multiple desktops'. I don't really
care, because never got used to those programs, but I wonder how well
does it work with the desktop manager of XP. ¿Anyone tried it?

TMC Is it ok to simply edit the entry to something more reasonable ?

yes, you should do it, but remember to close TB before.

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Re[2]: Missing Bat window - Help ?

2002-07-08 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El lunes 8 de julio de 2002, 16.54, Thomas M.  Corrigan decía:

TMC That would probably work, except the only items which show up when I right click
TMC on the Bat icon (on the toolbar) are restore / minimize, and close (no move)

If you feel comfortable with the Registry Editor, go to

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!

and give us the values of the keys: 'top' and 'left'. They should be
less than your vertical and horizontal resolution.

I had the same problem when using TB under Litestep, the window got
out of the screen area because of Litestep's desktop manager.

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Re[2]: Can Not Send Mail

2002-06-27 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El jueves 27 de junio de 2002, 8.14, John Phillips decía:

 Anyone else wanting to complain can park a message in the outbox,
 export it to a Unix MBX, remove the X-Mailer line in a text editor,
 re-import it to the Outbox and finally let it fly.


JP What logical reason would they have for their bouncing of mail withX-Mailer
JP Bat!?


I once read on this list (or maybe in TBTECH) that TB! is considered
by some sys-admins as an Spam tool, mainly because of it's mass
mailing capabilities (I don't agree with them, so please don't attack
me! ;) )

There's even a path for TB! to avoid the presence of the x-mailer tag.

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Re[3]: Can Not Send Mail

2002-06-27 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El jueves 27 de junio de 2002, 16.41, Ricardo M. Reyes decía:

RMR There's even a path for TB! to avoid the presence of the x-mailer tag.

correction: I meant PATCH instead of path

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Re[2]: Filters

2002-06-26 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 26 de junio de 2002, 12.49, Roelof Otten decía:

RO Selective download filters are only being used with the mail
RO dispatcher.

I think you're wrong here. I remember using selective download filters
some time ago, and they worked with the 'normal' 'Get new mail',
independently from the mail dispatcher.

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Re: Mailinglists that don't set reply-to

2002-06-26 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 26 de junio de 2002, 20.12, Maurice Snellen decía:

MS Is there a way to fix this? (short of asking them to add the reply-to
MS which they probably won't do because I guess they're the ppl who are
MS fans of that well-known article that argues that adding/modifying the
MS reply-to in list-messages is 'evil')

what article are you talking about?

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Re[2]: Questions

2002-06-21 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El jueves 20 de junio de 2002, 21.36, Allie C Martin decía:

DG It's a pain to type in every time, but I'd like it to be forgotten
DG if it isn't used for a period of time -- preferrably
DG user-specified.

ACM It's kind of cumbersome to be deleting the ini file all the time

you can use an scheduler (I'm sure there is one with every version of
windows, I don't remember it's name) to delete that file every 5
minutes, for example.

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Re[2]: Questions

2002-06-21 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El viernes 21 de junio de 2002, 22.17, Thomas F decía:

TF And why would Windows care about the actual definition? MS could just
TF have redefined it... ;-)

actually they don't 'redefine', they 'extend' and 'improve',
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Re: address book

2002-06-12 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 12 de junio de 2002, 14.47, Pete Milne decía:



PM   Is there a way I can automatically add the person's address to the
PM   address book when I reply to their mail?

you can create an outgoing mail filter that catches all the mails
you send, and adds the recipient to the AB. You can find that option in
the Actions Tab, when creating the filter.

That will add also the recipients of new mails, not only the replies.
If you want to fix it, you'll need to add some condition to the filter
that only can be find in the replies.

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Re[2]: Palm Sync.

2002-06-12 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 12 de junio de 2002, 10.27, Tim Musson decía:

TM but I don't think he has had a chance to (and in the scheme of
TM things, the people that want to sync their Palm's and the TBab are a
TM fairly small number of registered TBers...)

May be only a few of us are interested, but still, if RIT Labs accepts to
make the AB format available, I bet someone will do it. I might even
try, although I never wrote a conduit before. Is there a better way to
learn something than doing what you want and need?

If I could sync my palm with TB, that would be the last step to kick
Outlook out of my house, and for good. :)

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Re[2]: address book

2002-06-12 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 12 de junio de 2002, 15.52, Marck D Pearlstone decía:

MDP Use a Replied filter

well, that's obviously better than my suggestion!!!, I guess I should explore a
bit more the options ...

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Re: Palm Sync.

2002-06-11 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 11 de junio de 2002, 1.12, Freddie Freeloader decía:

FF There was a thread a few months ago about someone writing a conduit to
FF synchronize The Bat! address book with Palm devices.  I had to go off
FF line for a while and was wondering what, if anything, was the result
FF of that discussion?

I think there wasn't any results, but I would really want something
like that too!


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Re[2]: Status on 2.0?

2002-06-10 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El sábado 8 de junio de 2002, 7.53, Yuki Taga decía:

YT Do you happen to have any word on whether full DBCS support is still
YT going to be included?

may I ask what is DBCS?

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Re[5]: changing what goes in the To field on replies to email lists

2002-06-02 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El domingo 2 de junio de 2002, 17.06, Mark Wieder decía:

MW I sent out this message and two of them appeared on the list. My first
MW thought was that some glitch happened in TB on retrieving my mail and
MW so mail on the server wasn't marked as retrieved. Then I noticed that
MW there were two of these in my Sent Mail box...exactly the same RFC-822
MW headers and all.

well, I guess you won't find it funny, but this message _also_ got
sent twice :)

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Re[2]: Filter Inbox

2002-06-02 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El domingo 2 de junio de 2002, 15.02, RapidFX decía:

R Hello...

R Yes.

R Sunday, June 2, 2002, 7:26:20 AM, you wrote:
A Could I dictate that filters will only filter Inbox mail?  Other
A (IMAP) mailboxes seem parsed.

how is your conversation course going on?

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Re: The Bat! as an NT service

2002-05-25 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El viernes 24 de mayo de 2002, 22.18, Mark Wieder decía:

MW Any experience using The Bat! as a service under Windows NT / 2k
MW server?

no, but TB is not a service. How do you want to do it?

And, if you don't mind, why do you want to do it?

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Re[4]: symultaneus pop3 check

2002-05-25 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El sábado 25 de mayo de 2002, 1.05, Jonathan Angliss decía:

JA Might not be a TB thing... might be an ISP thing setting a rule saying only one
JA connection at once from a single IP (odd rule, but you never know).  I wouldn't
JA see that TB! would have a problem as it opens a seperate socket connection for
JA each connection attempt.  I can give mine a test on Tuesday.

thanks for any help.

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symultaneus pop3 check

2002-05-24 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

a few days ago I created a second account at softhome.net to handle
all the mailing lists traffic, and added it to TB. I have both (and
another one at other domain) configured to check automatically when
connection to Internet, but of the 2 softhome accounts, one always
fails to connect, with the following log:

*25/5/2002, 00.35.27: FETCH - receiving mail messages
!25/5/2002, 00.35.28: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: 

the other one goes ok, and the one that fails is not always the same
(it seems random).

If I check again the failed one, it goes ok.

It seems to fail when attempting to connect simultaneously to the same
server, although I don't know if it's a problem at TB or softhome.net.

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Re[2]: symultaneus pop3 check

2002-05-24 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El sábado 25 de mayo de 2002, 0.53, Jonathan Angliss decía:


JA If you have them set to simultaneously connect to the same account, chances are,
JA one account is getting an account locked message, but not passing it back to
JA the error view.

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2 connections is my IP, so I think it may be TB's fault. But I'm
afraid I can't test it because I'm unable to do two telnet connections
exactly at the same time.

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Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-22 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

yesterday I started to use Auto-Format and since then I notice that
the Smart Bat uses it also, although it's not checked in it's
utilities menu.

I don't mind that the auto format is ON in the smart bat, but the
problem is that if I open it and type write away, the new text
magically goes to the end of the previous line (the one with the dashes
and the time) and it get's REALLY annoying. It takes way the advantage
of the smart bat of open and write

Is it clear? I'm not sure how to describe it.

Is there any way to have independent settings between the message
editor and the smart bat? I think I like the auto-format in the
editor, but definitely not in the SB.

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Re[2]: Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-22 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 22 de mayo de 2002, 16.36, Costas Papadopoulos decía:

 Is  there  any  way to have independent settings between the message
 editor  and  the  smart  bat?  I think I like the auto-format in the
 editor, but definitely not in the SB.

CP Why  don't  you  start  typing after you press the Enter key once in
CP order to go to a ne line?

ok, I may get used to that, but there's another issue that I forgot in
the first mail: After I write a text and close the SB, I re-open the
SB again and the new 'dashes line' gets glued with the last text I
wrote before, because obviously I didn't hit enter twice AFTER that
text.

so I should hit ENTER once before the text, and TWICE after it :-/

I think it's too much work to consider it usefull. Considering all the
other freeware software that can perform better than SB, it enters
exactly on the bloatware team.

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Re: A not very important question..(colors)

2002-05-18 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El sábado 18 de mayo de 2002, 18.27, Rick Reumann decía:

RR Just curious, I noticed I can change the background color for my
RR viewing pleasure of the message window, but I can't seem to find a way
RR to change the background color of the folder list or the message list.
RR Are those not customizable? I'm not a color freak or anything but
RR just get tired of looking at the all white background.

you can change the colors in the message list by options - message
list colors, and changing the atributes of the generic group, and
every other group if you have any.

But I don't know how to chage the colors in the tree view, and would
like to know it.

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Re[2]: A not very important question..(colors)

2002-05-18 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El sábado 18 de mayo de 2002, 23.15, Allie C Martin decía:

RR But as far as I can tell that only changes the color of the
RR messages and not the background color.

ACM You can change the background colors.


only the area behind the text of the message, but not around that. If
you have few columns, or use a threaded view, it get's pretty ugly,
because the background color that you _can't_ change shows up.

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Re[2]: OT Calypso, searches, logical address books, html, PIM

2002-05-16 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 15 de mayo de 2002, 23.00, Jonathan Angliss decía:

  .. is they any ideas for when one wants to email with html/rtf ...
  font, sizing, color ... what is TheBat! current and long-term status
  for this.. (sorry, I am a newbie)
 
 Personally, I'm in no hurry and won't use it once it's here, but I
 appreciate that it's the only way TB's ever going to go head-to-head
 with the big boys.

JA As far as I'm concerned... the lack of HTML makes it a huge competitor in the
JA race against the big boys in my eyes.

I agree that TB! should avoid creating html mails, simply because I
don't want to do it, but I would like it to be better at handling the
incoming html mails, because I can't control the way other people
(those inferior living entities :) ) write to me.

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Re[3]: OT Calypso, searches, logical address books, html, PIM

2002-05-16 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 15 de mayo de 2002, 22.56, Spike decía:

S Please, OH PLEASE tell me that TB! is NOT going to allow use of
S HTML e-mails!?!?  This is the main reason I took up this
S software, to get away from the garish and unnecessary bandwidth
S and bloat of HTML e-mails!  Now with V2.0 I have to start the
S search all over??

S Say it aint so!

if you don't like it, don't use it. I certanly won't.

Having the chance to use html won't make you any harm.

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Re[2]: cover Bat! password

2002-05-15 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes


did you notice how TB cutted the word recover in the subject?

it's a bug in 1.60d or a bad regex in your template?

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Re[2]: Usage of Read Filter

2002-05-13 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El lunes 13 de mayo de 2002, 9.22, Peter Palmreuther decía:

RMR but only when you read the message in a separate window. It's not
RMR launched when you read the message in the preview pane,

PP Plainly wrong.

well, since everyone except my mother told me I was absolutely wrong
but TB still didn't trigger the filters when I read the messages in
the preview pane... I decided to wipe out TB and reinstall it.

I backed up the registry configuration, reinstalled and restored the
registry, but the problem persisted.

I deleted it again, reinstalled without restoring the registry, set
the options by hand, and now it works.

PP Have a look at 'Account' / 'Properties' / 'Options' / 'Mark message as read
PP only when it is open in a separate window' ... is it checked? 

no, it wasn't and it isn't checked. The messages get marked as read by
having them in the preview pane for 2 seconds.

PP So ... all in all a really complex thing of several conditions and
PP possibilities, but nevertheless working as expected :-)

yes, now.
but before there was something in the configuration (I don't know
what) that prevented it from working.

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Re[2]: Usage of Read Filter

2002-05-12 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El domingo 12 de mayo de 2002, 9.57, Allie C Martin decía:

R How is a read filter activated. I mean does it get activated
R automatically after the mail is read. Or does the folder have to
R refiltered each time ??? The former does not seem to work.

ACM The read filter set is applied automatically on a per message basis.
ACM When the message is marked as read, the filters are applied to it when
ACM you move to another message.

but only when you read the message in a separate window. It's not
launched when you read the message in the preview pane, even if it
mark the message as read.

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Re[2]: Usage of Read Filter

2002-05-12 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El domingo 12 de mayo de 2002, 11.36, Roel decía:

RMR but only when you read the message in a separate window. It's not
RMR launched when you read the message in the preview pane, even if it
RMR mark the message as read.

R Here it works perfectly using the preview pane...


maybe it's a problem with 1.60c, because I use Read Filters to make
disappear a tray icon indicating new mail and it doesn't work when
reading with the preview pane.

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Re[2]: Usage of Read Filter

2002-05-12 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El domingo 12 de mayo de 2002, 13.59, Allie C Martin decía:

ACM If messages are manually marked as read, they will not be
ACM auto-filtered with the read filter set. Is this what you're doing?

no, I'm using the option mark message as read after ..., set to 2
seconds.

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Re: Sending Messages hangs up

2002-05-10 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El jueves 9 de mayo de 2002, 20.08, Robert decía:

R The messages remained in the OutBox. I hit Send and got the
R message
R that there was nothing to send!!

I have exactly the same problem, plus sometimes the messages get
parked in the outbox and sometimes they don't. It's a very random bug.

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signature delimiter

2002-05-05 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

Is TB the only program that uses the --  as a signature delimiter?

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Re[2]: signature delimiter

2002-05-05 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El domingo 5 de mayo de 2002, 20.24, Melissa Reese decía:

MR Since PGP *does* use the dashes, it needs to recognize the five dashes
MR in its headers and footers in order to find valid PGP material. In
MR order to not get confused, during clear signing, it adds a dash/space
MR (- ) in the first two columns of any line of a message body it finds
MR that begins with a dash in the first column.

ok, thanks

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Re: Working with thread view

2002-05-03 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El viernes 3 de mayo de 2002, a las 6.47, Mitja Perko decía:

MP Is there
MP a way to park or delete the whole thread and not just the first
MP message.

in the context menu (right click) go to the thread submenu

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Quote in a box

2002-05-03 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El viernes 3 de mayo de 2002, a las 12.17, Marck D Pearlstone decía:

MDP ,- [ Solution from another ex-Eudora user ]
MDP | ---
MDP | Converting Eudora Mailboxes - a Solution:
MDP | ---

 a lot more ... 

MDP | Includes the name of any attachments in the msg body (even if the
MDP | actual attachment was deleted before the conversion).
MDP `-

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headers in html mails

2002-05-01 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

when I open and html mail in a separate window (instead of the
preview pane) I get a tabbed window, with a tab labeled 1 and a tab
labeled message.htm. In the text tab 1 I see the headers in the
gray area above the text (From, To, Subject, etc) but in the
message.htm tab I can't see them. The text of the mail fills all the
window.

If I read the mail in the preview mail, I can see the headers in both
tabs.

Do you know how can I see the headers in the html mails in a separate
window?

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Re[2]: headers in html mails

2002-05-01 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 1 de mayo de 2002, a las 14.25, Roelof Otten decía:

RO Hello Ricardo,

RO On Wed, 1 May 2002 12:18:31 -0300GMT (1-5-02, 17:18 +0200GMT, where I
RO live), you wrote:

RMR Do you know how can I see the headers in the html mails in a
RMR separate window?

RO If I read you correctly, you can't.


anyone knows a reason?

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Re[2]: headers in html mails

2002-05-01 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 1 de mayo de 2002, a las 15.16, Peter Palmreuther decía:

PP Hello Ricardo,

PP On Wednesday, May 1, 2002 at 8:00:34 PM you wrote (at least in part):

RMR anyone knows a reason?

PP It's an obvious one, but the only one coming to my mind: not
PP implemented?! :-)

ok, but if it shows them in the text tab, why not in the html tab?

I guess it would be great to have an RitLabs programmer in this forum
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Re[2]: headers in html mails

2002-05-01 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 1 de mayo de 2002, a las 16.39, Peter Palmreuther decía:

PP It doesn't matter for me, so please ... this is no request :-) But to
PP me there seem not to be any effort needed by the programmers to 'not
PP deactivate' the pane, as already done in preview pane :-)


ok, .\\arck says there are Ritlabs programmers reading this, so this
question is addressed to them: ¿why? :)

I'm a programmer, I work with delphi sometimes, and I can't think of
any reasonable explanation, except for a simple bug or omission.

Please help me with this, I can't sleep!!! :)

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Re[2]: No parking in the outbox (was: Re-sending a failed message)

2002-04-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 30 de abril de 2002, a las 6.25, Marck D Pearlstone decía:

 If I hit send queued mail it says nothing to send, but I can see
 the mail in the Outbox, and surely not parked.

 Now I'm really sure it's bug, and a really annoying one

MDP It's annoying, but it's not a bug. It means that the connection centre
MDP is still open and that the message is locked by a current Send task.

I have the connection center configured to show automatically and it's
not visible, so I guess it's not open

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Re[2]: Lost Connection Centre - Please help

2002-04-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 30 de abril de 2002, a las 5.18, Charles Collinson decía:


 2) Edit the registry in the key:
HKCU/software/RIT/The bat/RAS height (set to 0)
  RAS left   (set to 0)

CC Thanks that sort of solved it. How and why it did this I don't know, as I
CC don't have a resolution that big. The top and left were set at 3000. Maybe
CC the RAS reg keys want altering to CC, as I didn't relate the two at the time
CC when I was looking in there earlier.

I had a similar problem a few days ago with the main window (it was
set at imposible coordinates, and therefore, invisible). The cause was
an incompatibility with a multiple desktop manager for Litestep,
which I was testing. Are you using something like that?



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Re[2]: No parking in the outbox (was: Re-sending a failed message)

2002-04-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 30 de abril de 2002, a las 12.58, Marck D Pearlstone decía:

MDP It's annoying, but it's not a bug. It means that the connection
MDP centre is still open and that the message is locked by a current
MDP Send task.

 I have the connection center configured to show automatically and
 it's not visible, so I guess it's not open

MDP If you manually close the CC without successfully aborting the task it
MDP is left open but invisible with the outgoing message still queued as a
MDP send task. I've done it myself before now. It's the *only* reason that
MDP message Nothing to send ever appears when there is mail in the
MDP outbox.

well, that explains one a part of the randomness I saw in the problem:
I thought (but wasn't sure) that the message nothing to send ceased to
appear after trying a few times. I guess that was the time that the send
thread needed to finish.

ok, now the plot thickens and the bug grows bigger :-)

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Re[2]: 1.60h

2002-04-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 30 de abril de 2002, a las 11.19, Haico decía:

 Did, and it shows what's new in 1.60 and 1.60c but I don't
 see 1.60h.

H Nothing new in 1.60h. Just some bug-fixes.

I guess they should list the bugfixes too, don't you?

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Re[2]: Strange Email

2002-04-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 30 de abril de 2002, a las 21.14, Gene Gough decía:

GG You have to have a license for Norton Anti virus to make it work. The
GG Norton code you install on your machine provides full directions on
GG how to use it. I understand that this may be different with the 2002
GG version. I am running the 2001 version. Basically you use a Norton pop
GG (pop.norton.antivirus) as your pop server and you pass your USERID and
GG IP's pop address as parms. They fetch your mail, examine it (always
GG latest level of signatures) and if infected then there is the normal
GG dialog as what to be done, once completed the mail is forwarded to
GG you.

don't be confused: your mail is being checked _in your machine_ , the
address pop.norton.antivirus is a fake one, that points to a local
service. The signatures used to check the emails are the ones
installed on your machine, and not necesary the latest.

The antivirus acts just like a filter between your mail program and
your mail server

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Re-sending a failed message

2002-04-25 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

Consider this situation:

- I write a new message, save it to the outbox and hit send queued
mail in the toolbar.
- While the mail is being sent, in the Connection Center I hit Abort,
to end the transfer (usually because it freezes in the middle)
- Later, if I hit send queued mail again a message box pops up saying
nothing to send, although the e-mail is still waiting in the outbox.

The only way I found to send it is opening it again, do absolutely
nothing, save it to the outbox and try to send it again

Is it a bug or a feature? I you say a feature, I would argue its
benefits :)


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TBBeta List

2002-04-25 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

can anybody tell me how to sing in to TBBeta?

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No parking in the outbox (was: Re-sending a failed message)

2002-04-25 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El jueves 25 de abril de 2002, a las 17.14, Dwight A Corrin decía:

 The only way I found to send it is opening it again, do absolutely
 nothing, save it to the outbox and try to send it again

DAC do you have it parked in the outbox?  (hourglass showing?)

well... yes! :)
What the hell is that!? I didn't notice that column in the outbox
before. (I know what a parked message is, but I didn't know it had a
different icon in the outbox)

So I will rephrase my question:
How can I tell TB I don't want him to park the messages when he can't
send them ?

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Re[2]: No parking in the outbox (was: Re-sending a failed message)

2002-04-25 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El jueves 25 de abril de 2002, a las 20.37, Roelof Otten decía:

RMR So I will rephrase my question:
RMR How can I tell TB I don't want him to park the messages when he can't
RMR send them ?

RO The buttons for saving into the outbox (arrow down) and for saving as
RO draft (hourglass), that is parked in the outbox, are next to each
RO other. Just be careful what you click.


I'm sure I'm not parking them when saving, because TB! tries to send
it, maybe connects, authenticates with the smtp server and starts the
transfer, and later I have to stop it because the server is a piece of
crap and never ends the transfer. If I save the message using the
hourglass button, and then hit send queued mail, it doesn't try to
send (of course).

So, I save it right, send it, stop it, and then it get's parked by TB!

I you want to reproduce it, save a message in the outbox while being
off-line and hit send. It should happen to you too (at least it
happens to me with TB 1.60c)

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TBBeta List

2002-04-25 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 24 de abril de 2002, a las 10.46, Miguel A. Urech decía:

MAU Please do not confuse the average TBDUL user and take this
MAU question/issue to the TBBeta list.

can anybody tell me how to _sign in_ to TBBeta list?

(had to put sign in instead of subs... because the mailer rejected
my mail as a bad subscription request :) )


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Re[2]: No parking in the outbox (was: Re-sending a failed message)

2002-04-25 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El jueves 25 de abril de 2002, a las 22.36, Dwight A Corrin decía:

DAC I also wonder, whoever it was that was getting messages parked in the
DAC outbox and I'm too lazy to go back and look, whether it is the act of
DAC aborting the send which causes the message to get parked?

yes, when I hit Abort in the connection center to stop the upload

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Re: Outlook conversion doesn't preserve addresses

2002-04-23 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 23 de abril de 2002, a las 8.55, Christopher Taylor-Davies decía:

CTD I have been trying to import my old message base from Outlook and
CTD have not had much luck. I have selected a few folders to convert and
CTD the process sometimes causes program errors in TB.

When I migrated from Outlook 2000 to TB!, TB! couldn´t import from
Outlook, so I imported the Outlook messagebase to Outlook Express and
then from Outlook Express to TB!, and it worked great. You probably
have OE installed if you have one of the latest IEs, so I suggest you
try this method.


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Images in HTML mails

2002-04-23 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

The Bat isn't showing the images linked in the html mails I receive.
¿Is it a bug, or I just missed an option?.

I don't really like html mails, and I'm happy with TB's lack of
support to writing them, but if people insists on sending me this kind
of junk, I sometimes want to see them complete :)

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