Re: [videoblogging] the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
On 1/20/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Its much easier to create Windows Media on PCs than it is to createQuicktime (just ask any of the Windows users here what they've had togo through).Easier, yes, but creating QuickTime on Windows is not THAT big a deal. My own process is to edit my raw DV footage in Roxio VideoWave and export it again as DV (I think Windows Movie Maker also does this, and it's free). I then drag the file onto QuickTime Pro (which cost me all of 30 bucks) and say Export to iPod. Someone on this group recently mentioned a free tool that should also accomplish this. -- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] BroadSnatch - Podcasts, vlogs and media search
On 1/19/06, Joshua Seiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Worst name ever.I dunno, I thought Daily Motion was pretty funny...-- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] IRC? chat?
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 06:56:36 +0100, bleedxapathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are there any video blogging irc channels on any irc server? any kind of chat existing? link me up We have been using #vloggercon on Freenode for random stuff. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Vlogging @ SXSW Interactive
Looks like Verdi is in a panel on the first day: We Got Naked, Now What? ;)On 1/20/06, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good news - SXSW added some vlogging-related panels on the last day: http://2006.sxsw.com/interactive/programming/panels/ I don't think these panels are fleshed out yet, but I see - DIY Media: Consumer is the Producer - How to Add Video to Your Blog - Video Blogging Business Models That last one is no joke! Andrew Baron and I are both on the panel, I don't know who else. Is anybody here on a panel? I remember people talking about some spontaneous Node101 action in the hallways. That would be renegade fresh. SXSW is incredibly fun, and you meet so many cool people (web-famous and otherwise). Not to mention the film and music. Let's vlog the crap out of SXSW people. It's a happy geek vibe. Hey Verdi, can we revive SXSWvlog.blogspot.com? cheers, chuck SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted TagamiPrincipal, Universus NetworksU N I V E R S U S . N E T YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
Friday, January 20, 2006, 6:38:30 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: In fact, the Flip4Mac plugin may provide a better viewing experience for Mac users than the woefully out-of-date wmv plugin. Just because you have to download it separately now doesn't mean that will always be the case. I'm sure it will begin to be bundled with other downloads and Microsoft products. And don't forget all those messages to this list from Mac users telling PC folks how they should use Quicktime because the player is a free download. Sauce for the goose, folks. -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Are You Going to SXSW?
Besides Verdi and Andrew... anyone else going to SXSW, TX in March? jadonnelly madpod.com dummycast.com petsonboard.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:02:55 +0100, Eddie Codel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome script Josh. Thanks for that contribution to the vlogosphere. I'm wondering if you or anyone else has basically done the same thing but embedded the video within the image area of the blog post. I see Steve Garfield's vlog has exactly what I mean. To accomplish that, there is some javascript wrapped around what is displayed in the blog which then calls an external script to change it's contents. Hoping that might be something that can be shared. I'm using that on my blog. You can get the javascript at URL: http://www.solitude.dk/img/video-link.js and there's no documentation. Make a copy of that file, upload to your own server and link to it with script type=text/javascript src=[URL]/script. Basically it searches for links of the format: a href=[URL] rel=enclosure type=video/quicktime The first child of the link must be an image (to weed out false positives). You can see it in effect on URL: http://www.solitude.dk/archives/20051201-1610/ Problems with the current version: - Only works with Quicktime video - Image has to be the same size as the video - Quicktime player will be 320*240 regardless of your video size - Doesn't work in Internet Explorer, but degrades gracefully to a normal link Eventually I will fix these. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
Well Im no fan of windows media, but Im also more than a little skeptical about hopes that Apples market share is going to go large enough soon enough to make your conclusions totally valid. Is all this 'market share' stuff just based on volumes of computers sold in any particular quarter? If so then this doesnt tell us what percentage of active computers on the net are Macs, which is more important. If I wasnt into VJing then I could go for years without meeting anybody in the UK with a Mac. Nobody at work even considers Apple when getting a new computer. We've only had a Apple retail store or 2 here in the UK for a few years. Apple are only just opening their first store in continental Europe. I believe that Macs already have a disproportionately large number of column inches dedicated towards them, and Apple get a much easier ride with the press, not least because quite a lot of journalists have Macs. Personally I would want to consider cross-platform compatibility when developing a site/service, but I still expect Windows-based machines to dominate for years to come. For Apples share to change significantly in the short-medium term, they need to get cheaper. I bought 2 Macs last year but really they reprensent very very poor value compared to the equivalent PC. The new Mac Intel chips will help this a bit, but the price of PC stuff just keep tumbling so I dunno, hard to tell what will happen. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Lanza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meanwhile, Macs recently passed 5% market share for PCs. They almost doubled market share right before switching microprocessor platforms, a time when nearly everyone expected their share to dip. Thus, I'd say it's clear that Mac is headed for upper single digits, if not double-digits. My conclusion is that any site based on this lame format is, well, lame for using it. As the Mac continues to gain market share in 2006, I predict that Windows Media will be dropped by many, if not most, of the serious web video sites using it today. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
i dont disagree. but i wouldnt say that it is much easier to create wmv. it's somewhat easier to some people. not any easier to others. and if the final output is not going to provide optimum 'experience' on the web for those on all platforms, then that has to be weighed into the decision to use wmv. like i always say, it depends on the people and neither statements from both ends of the spectrum can be used as a sweeping truth. DRM sure. has little to do with the open vlog culture but yeah it will be a leader in this area for some time. As the Mac continues to gain market share in 2006, I predict that Windows Media will be dropped by many, if not most, of the serious web video sites using it today.define Serious web video sites because if you are referring to big media or most commercial ventures, whether or not they use DRM, then this wont play out anytime soon. if you are talking about serious independent content creators like vloggers then i'd say that this latest decision from MS could very well hinder usage of the format... but nothing will crumble. personally, i'd use and recommend DivX over wmv! sullOn 1/20/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not so fast there... Windows Media ain't going away anytime soon.You wanna know why? Two reasons:- Its much easier to create Windows Media on PCs than it is to createQuicktime (just ask any of the Windows users here what they've had to go through).- DRM. Imagine you are a hollywood studio. You want to sell content onthe web but you want to make sure that your content is protected.Windows Media is your only choice because Apple does not license their DRM.So there you go... don't expect WMV to fade into the distance quietly.In fact, the Flip4Mac plugin may provide a better viewing experiencefor Mac users than the woefully out-of-date wmv plugin. Just because you have to download it separately now doesn't mean that will alwaysbe the case. I'm sure it will begin to be bundled with other downloadsand Microsoft products...-JoshOn 1/19/06, Mike Lanza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft just announced officially that they're dropping development of Windows Media for Macintosh.Meanwhile, Macs recently passed 5% market share for PCs. They almost doubled market share right before switching microprocessor platforms, a time when nearly everyone expected their share to dip.Thus, I'd say it's clear that Mac is headed for upper single digits, if not double-digits. As any Mac user will tell you, videos that require Windows Media (usually .wmv's) either don't work at all on a Mac (e.g. CNN) or they work in a really weird way that looks like an error (e.g. blip.tv). So, for a segment of the user population that is 5% and growing fast, the Windows Media experience is bad and will surely get worse since Microsoft isn't developing Windows Media for Mac anymore.(Their suggestion - to use Flip4Mac - is *totally* lame.Can you see your mom downloading and installing Flip4Mac to watch a video?) My conclusion is that any site based on this lame format is, well, lame for using it.As the Mac continues to gain market share in 2006, I predict that Windows Media will be dropped by many, if not most, of the serious web video sites using it today. Yahoo! Groups LinksYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
On 1/20/06, Eddie Codel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome script Josh. Thanks for that contribution to the vlogosphere. I'm wondering if you or anyone else has basically done the same thing but embedded the video within the image area of the blog post. I see Steve Garfield's vlog has exactly what I mean. To accomplish that, there is some javascript wrapped around what is displayed in the blog which then calls an external script to change it's contents. Hoping that might be something that can be shared. The net benefit of this method is that a single page with multiple blog entries could all have embedded videos, which would only activate upon clicking. And keeps the viewer on your page for easy commenting access. I do something like this one my site as well (http://www.davidmeade.com) and I like the effect ... I've got it working with quicktime, windows media, and audio files. I dont think the script is really portable ... but I might be able to tweak it so that it was. -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Created IRC Channel - #vbloggers on irc.freenode.net
we usually use vloggercon as the freenode channel On Jan 20, 2006, at 1:14 AM, bleedxapathy wrote: i made an irc channel for the group. i dont know if one exists already but now we have one on freenode. #vbloggers on irc.freenode.net --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
yeah, nice job David. I've noticed this before. great example. maybe ellaborate on how you use _javascript_ to achieve this... and if you could spent time making a wordpress plugin or something ??sull On 1/20/06, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/20/06, Eddie Codel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome script Josh. Thanks for that contribution to the vlogosphere. I'm wondering if you or anyone else has basically done the same thing but embedded the video within the image area of the blog post. I see Steve Garfield's vlog has exactly what I mean. To accomplish that, there is some _javascript_ wrapped around what is displayed in the blog which then calls an external script to change it's contents. Hoping that might be something that can be shared. The net benefit of this method is that a single page with multiple blog entries could all have embedded videos, which would only activate upon clicking. And keeps the viewer on your page for easy commenting access.I do something like this one my site as well(http://www.davidmeade.com) and I like the effect... I've got it working with quicktime, windows media, and audio files.I dont think the script is really portable ... but I might be able totweak it so that it was.--http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
n 1/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally, i'd use and recommend DivX over wmv! I've been messing with it for the past few weeks/month...it's really nice.I'll try to find some time and post some test pieces this weekend.The audio is a TON better than wmv.Don't know why though. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Are You Going to SXSW?
as soon as i'm hooked up with a massive discount ;-)On 1/20/06, James A. Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides Verdi and Andrew...anyone else going to SXSW, TX in March?jadonnelly madpod.comdummycast.competsonboard.comYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
yeah, Andreas has the right approach herei also take a similar approach with same end result on vlogdir.com.example:http://vlogdir.com/permalink/594 when chris added the entry, he filled out a form to include an image and a video. the end result works as if the image were a quicktime poster movie, but its not.some of andreas' scripts caveats apply here, except the image can be any size (technically, but not setup that way on vlogdir) and it does work on Internet Explorer fine. It also checks/detects for Quicktime plugin and displays message with link to download quicktime if user does not have it. could be made into a plugin of course. and yeah josh is correct about the popup blockers it has no effect if a user initiates the popup from clicking a link.also, though I am a fan of embedding video on pages (this includes popup window), i think it is poor practice to do so in any way that causes the video to download automatically on a page, even the media permalink page. Especially in a blog page where people can submit comments... because often times after this is submitted the page reloads and the video starts to download again wasting bandwidth. Yes, a little so-called Ajax scripting for the comments form would help here to but thats besides the point. even sites like blip.tv work like this. either make the comments in a popup window like rocketboom (ever wonder why they do this? now you know) or make the video in a popup or use _javascript_ as mentioned here and by andreas, or use a combination of an iframe and show/hide div layer to mimic the function of the popup window but embedded on page. there are also some newer more interesting techniques i've been experimenting with but i wont get into that techbabble here.sullOn 1/20/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:02:55 +0100, Eddie Codel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome script Josh. Thanks for that contribution to the vlogosphere. I'm wondering if you or anyone else has basically done the same thing but embedded the video within the image area of the blog post. I see Steve Garfield's vlog has exactly what I mean. To accomplish that, there is some _javascript_ wrapped around what is displayed in the blog which then calls an external script to change it's contents. Hoping that might be something that can be shared.I'm using that on my blog. You can get the _javascript_ at URL: http://www.solitude.dk/img/video-link.js and there's no documentation.Make a copy of that file, upload to your own server and link to it withscript type=text/_javascript_ src="" Basically it searches for links of the format:a href="" rel=enclosure type=video/quicktimeThe first child of the link must be an image (to weed out false positives). You can see it in effect on URL:http://www.solitude.dk/archives/20051201-1610/ Problems with the current version:- Only works with Quicktime video - Image has to be the same size as the video- Quicktime player will be 320*240 regardless of your video size- Doesn't work in Internet Explorer, but degrades gracefully to a normallinkEventually I will fix these. - Andreas--URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology.Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Are You Going to SXSW?
On 1/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as soon as i'm hooked up with a massive discount ;-)yes...i've been selling pencils on the street corner, but it's not adding up as quickly as I had hoped.i'm moving to phase II of my funding round, in which I find an old rich woman, marry her, and wait patiently for her death. AQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Are You Going to SXSW?
I'm definitely going to SXSW, registration is taken care of, now i just need to find some plane tickets. -- http://www.phatalspin.com/vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material
On Jan 19, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: that's why I keep recommending college text books on mass media law and not just a website with bullet points about Fair Use. Just to be clear -- the website I recommended at: is not just a website with bullet points... in fact I would regard it as more authoritative than any book on Fair Use. Usually I would never say such a thing -- websites are wrong and flaky more often than books -- but this isn't just any website let me give some background about who published the info on that site. In the U.S., understanding Fair Use had become increasingly confusing to independent media makers. With our desire and ability to quote other media rising in this digital era, and with the increasing power of media corporations who buy copyrights from other people corporations and have their lawyers extend the length of time of those copyrights through longer than ever seen before, and with the way the _all_ of the laws are being rewritten in the U.S. to favor corporate rights over human rights... more and more documentary filmmakers were giving up on ever using Fair Use. It was especially hard for documentary feature filmmakers who would do research (like you are advocating), learn about copyright law in-depth, make decisions about what they could use under fair use and without paying huge fees... and then these filmmakers would take their films to PBS / ITVS / POV (all public funding / distribution programs in the U.S.) and these major distributors would say no -- we can't show this, you have to pay royalties on all this. Sometimes the broadcast royalties that were being demanded cost much more than the original film budget -- hundreds of thousands of dollars. And film projects would get stopped cold. Basically fair use existed in the U.S., but independent filmmakers couldn't use it because the broadcasters were so conservative in their interpretation of what could be done. And foundations and funding sources were getting chewed up paying royalties to by rights to footage / music / etc that could have be used without paying by declaring fair use. So, the Rockefeller Foundation and the MacArthur Foundation (who fund a lot of the projects that I'm talking about) got together and funded a huge multi-year study and conversation about what's going on. American University coordinated the whole project, and they consulted with a gazillion lawyers and fair use experts and filmmaker associations and together wrote up a statement. This statement that's been produced is not one person's idea about fair use, it is now the definitive guide and statement of intention of an entire industry about how all of these people will now understand, interpret and use the concept of Fair Use. They are not legislatures or judges, so they didn't actually re-write the law, but I would consider this the next best thing. Basically it's a huge alliance of all of the biggest players in the U.S. saying, look, it's been confusing, we all ran away from the issue because we didn't want to get in trouble, but that wasn't working for us, so this is what we are going to do now. If anyone exercises fair use under these guidelines, and then gets sued, they have the entire pack of organizations behind them defending what they did. Judges are into professional guidelines and statements like these, and will listen. Who's in this alliance? The statement was co-written by: Association of Independent Video and Filmmakers Independent Feature Project International Documentary Association National Alliance for Media Arts and Culture Women in Film and Video (Washington, D.C., chapter) and endorsed by: Arts Engine Bay Area Video Coalition Doculink Full Frame Festival Independent Television Service P.O.V./American Documentary University Film and Video Association Video Association of Dallas Women Make Movies So it's a REALLY big deal. Now it covers only Fair Use, in the U.S., and not all of the issues that have come up in this email discussion. And I've argued for the use of copyrighted material that goes beyond fair use. This document is more careful, and names specific instances when a media maker should feel very justified to use copyrighted material. There are, of course, many non-fair-use instances that are illegal, many others that are not, and others that are still vague. And of course, people are free to make choices that might be considered illegal, or are in the grey area, and wait to see what happens... Negativeland URL: http://www.negativland.com/ > URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativland > is a great example of a group of artists who pushes the boundaries of what's considered legal, to test those boundaries and to create art that couldn't be created by towing the line. It's that spirit that created Creative Commons. To me, I don't want to assume that videoblogging falls under the law in exactly the same way that television broadcasting does. But that of, course is my opinion --
Re: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:28:36 +0100, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 19, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: that's why I keep recommending college text books on mass media law and not just a website with bullet points about Fair Use. Just to be clear -- the website I recommended at: http://www.centerforsocialmedia.org/fairuse.htm is not just a website with bullet points... in fact I would regard it as more authoritative than any book on Fair Use. Usually I would never say such a thing -- websites are wrong and flaky more often than books -- but this isn't just any website let me give some background about who published the info on that site. You missed my point. It is a great guide. My point is that videobloggers can't do with just knowing Fair Use. There are multiple laws that videobloggers need to familiarize themselves with - copyright being only one. Thus it is not enough *just* to read a guide on fair use. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are You Going to SXSW?
I'll be there for the full 9 days - interactive through the end of the music festival. for anyone who stays past interactive, IODA is having a day-party at Emo's Annex on (the ides of) March 15, 1pm - 5pm, 5+ live bands, a special guest appearance drinks - sxsw style. Vlogging is welcome. we may possibly even have some goodie bags, ya never know.details later, just letting you know now that you are all making plans! I've been attending the sxsw music festival for years but this is my first time at interactive, really looking forward to it. 'Twas nice to meet a lot of interactive attendees on monday night at the SxSWi party in sf see you in Austin? Corey On Jan 20, 2006, at 6:25 AM, leslye penelope wrote: I'm definitely going to SXSW, registration is taken care of, now i just need to find some plane tickets. -- http://www.phatalspin.com/vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group videoblogging on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] for our Dutch members
Nominate yourselves! http://www.dutchbloggies.nl/-- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] AmigoFish
My pal Dave Slusher launched AmigoFish a while back, and wanted to make sure I knew that it also dealt with videoblogs as well as podcasts: http://www.amigofish.com/ The idea being, you rate videoblogs/podcasts, and can then get predictions as to what you might like to see/hear. Check it out, if anything, make sure you submit the feed to your videoblog so others can find it. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
Also, for DivX, check out the new browser plugin with mac support now. http://labs.divx.com/archives/72.html --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: n 1/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally, i'd use and recommend DivX over wmv! I've been messing with it for the past few weeks/month...it's really nice. I'll try to find some time and post some test pieces this weekend. The audio is a TON better than wmv. Don't know why though. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Are You Going to SXSW?
I'm thinking about it. If I can swing it financially. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, James A. Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides Verdi and Andrew... anyone else going to SXSW, TX in March? jadonnelly madpod.com dummycast.com petsonboard.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
yep, DivX is now a complete, high quality solution for vloggers to consider using. definately worthy of your time to evaluate and experiment. i'll be using it along with flv and quicktime on upcoming projects this year. i am also adding DivX support to vlogdir this weekend.sullOn 1/20/06, JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Also, for DivX, check out the new browser plugin with mac support now. http://labs.divx.com/archives/72.html--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: n 1/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:personally, i'd use and recommend DivX over wmv! I've been messing with it for the past few weeks/month...it's really nice. I'll try to find some time and post some test pieces this weekend. The audio is a TON better than wmv. Don't know why though.Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: sony hdr-fx1
How come so few people are trying out 640x480? It seems like most people are shrinking to 320x240, and then they're are people wanted to play with larger formats -- like 960x540 or1280x720. I'm guessing it's because people have these HDV cameras and want to use all those pixels... but it seems like 640x480 would be a great thing to experiment with. Like -- which is better, super high quality 320x480 so that it looks decent when blown up to 640x480 in FireANT, or a 640x480 native file of the same mb file size (so much lower quality). I'm watching more and more videos at 640x480, but (thanks to the green button) I can now see what their original formats are, and I see they are mostly some where around 320x240. Some look good blown up, some look like crap I wish I had more time to play with all this... (but I don't). It's definitely a thing to explore -- how to get a better looking, bigger image, staying within reasonable download times. jen Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Vlogging @ SXSW Interactive
The SXSW Vlog is back in action. I posted all the videos on blip and even hooked it up with a new template. If anyone wants to be a contributor, just shoot me an email and I'll send you an invite.Check it out: http://sxswvlog.blogspot.com/-VerdiOn 1/20/06, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hey Verdi, can we revive SXSWvlog.blogspot.com ? SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: sony hdr-fx1
I think the biggest reason more people aren't doing 640 X 480 is the de-interlacing problem. It takes a long time to deinterlace your video and it's difficult to get good results.Anyone out there have a good way to do this? -VerdiOn 1/20/06, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How come so few people are trying out 640x480? It seems like mostpeople are shrinking to 320x240, and then they're are people wanted toplay with larger formats -- like 960x540 or1280x720. I'm guessing it'sbecause people have these HDV cameras and want to use all those pixels... but it seems like 640x480 would be a great thing toexperiment with. Like -- which is better, super high quality 320x480 sothat it looks decent when blown up to 640x480 in FireANT, or a 640x480native file of the same mb file size (so much lower quality). I'm watching more and more videos at 640x480, but (thanks to the greenbutton) I can now see what their original formats are, and I see theyare mostly some where around 320x240. Some look good blown up, somelook like crap I wish I had more time to play with all this... (but I don't).It's definitely a thing to explore -- how to get a better looking,bigger image, staying within reasonable download times.jen Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:48:38 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do something like this one my site as well (http://www.davidmeade.com) and I like the effect ... I've got it working with quicktime, windows media, and audio files. But you're using javascript: links, which is troublesome (doesn't degrade gracefully). Then you also have to create additional download links for Feedburner and other spiders. It's exactly the attaching of an even on a normal link I was having trouble getting to work in IE. I only spent ten minutes on it so I'm sure it can be made to work in IE. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: sony hdr-fx1
Jen Simmons wrote: How come so few people are trying out 640x480? It seems like most people are shrinking to 320x240 Personally, I don't have the time (processing) or space (hard drive) or equipment (cheap video camera) to do so... If every feed I subscribed to went from 320x240 to 640x480 I'd probably have to unsubscribe many because of the time/space issues... Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are You Going to SXSW?
Are You Going to SXSW? No I am not. As usual, I will be busy organizing MXMW... Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Video Blogging Mecca this Wednesday, Lower East Side
Lü magazine, a SpongeTV.com side project, is co-hosting a party at Libation on Wednesday with a group of sustainable fashion designers. If you plan on attending, please RSVP to the website: http://www.ici-nyc.com RemyC. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are You Going to SXSW?
On 1/20/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As usual, I will be busy organizing MXMW...A seriously great idea SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogging @ SXSW Interactive
OMG. I thought that was just a running joke, but there it is! Should be Halcyon and Verdi... in the buff. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like Verdi is in a panel on the first day: We Got Naked, Now What? ;) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Convert .ASF to .MOV on a Mac?
Does anyone know of a way to convert a .asf to .mov on a Mac? I have a friend with one of those $100 SD cameras and a Mac. I found solutions for PCs but I need one for Mac if possible.Thanks,Verdi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: sony hdr-fx1
I have the Sony HC1, and for my Quicktime feed I'm using 400 x 225. Weird I know, but looks pretty good and should handle being blow up bigger. Sorenson Squeeze has a deinterlace, which isn't really necessary if you're shrinking your video. I'm not sure how much processing time it adds but I'd like to experiment with a larger format feed. Another potential issue is the additional bandwidth of large videos. I prefer to jusst FTP my videos to one of my servers since it takes more time to use Blip.tv (for example), but I have to watch my bandwidth limits. -chuck http://mnstories.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the biggest reason more people aren't doing 640 X 480 is the de-interlacing problem. It takes a long time to deinterlace your video and it's difficult to get good results. Anyone out there have a good way to do this? -Verdi Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] DV to iPod (320x240) dilemna
Question: Had anyone had any luck replicating the sharpness, and file size of the export to iPod 320x240 function, but by doing it manually? I have found the quality, and file size of export to iPod (320x240) to be very appealing, with one exception, the stretch factor. Why does Apple not take into consideration the rectangular pixels of the 720x480 format, and make them square to a true 320x240 size, not 320x213? Because every time I have tried a manual compression from DV to 320x240, the image is just not as sharp, and the file sizes are larger than the standard export to iPod 320-x240. And I have tried a variety of compressions. I have tried making a self-contained 720x480 DV NTSC movie into a 640x480 DV NTSC movie. Then, I have done a variety of manual compressions, m4v, mp4, mov, with Video, or Sorenson 3, or MPEG$ settings. (The h.264 is definitely the best in quality and size). But again, none of the manual compression schemes come up to the quality of the automatic export to iPod (320x240) I have also tried going directly to 320 x 240 DV NTSC from 720x480, and worked a variety of manual compressions, but to no avail. I am curious to know if others have had similar experiences. Chris Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
I have a few replies to various things posted on this thread. 1) Apple's market share. Steve Watkins says he doesn't see many Macs in the UK. Yes, I agree, it varies by geography. In the San Francisco Bay Area, where I am, Macs have far greater than 10% share, maybe as high as 20% or more, and it's been growing noticably for the last year. No, Apple is not a big enough employer to affect those numbers. Most technology trends seem to start here, so I'd say that the Bay Area is usually a leading indicator for technology trends. 2) Flip4Mac makes Windows Media viable on Macs. C'mon, folks! True, Quicktime fans have been pushing Windows folks to download Quicktime from the Apple site, but there's a *huge* difference in the name recognition of Apple and the name recognition of Flip4Mac. People fail to download free apps for two primary reasons: 1) it's a pain, and 2) they don't trust the company behind the download. Until some huge company (like Microsoft) buys Flip4Mac, it won't be a big factor. 3) Windows Media is easy to output, according to Josh Kinberg. A very large percentage of web video (half?) is created on Macs with Final Cut Pro and iMovie, and on Macs creating a Windows Media file is not very easy. Ease of output is one of the achilles heels of Flash Media (easily the best cross platform solution from a viewing point of view), but the recent Adobe acquisition should change that issue radically. They own Premiere, of course, but also, they have the muscle and the experience w/ PDF to cut deals w/ lots of other software vendors. 4) Sites changing from Windows Media. Others don't believe my prediction. I know of at least two major sites that will soon make the change from Windows Media to Flash Video in the near future. One is very popular with videobloggers, and the other is a huge consumer site. Stay tuned this year, folks... --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Im no fan of windows media, but Im also more than a little skeptical about hopes that Apples market share is going to go large enough soon enough to make your conclusions totally valid. Is all this 'market share' stuff just based on volumes of computers sold in any particular quarter? If so then this doesnt tell us what percentage of active computers on the net are Macs, which is more important. If I wasnt into VJing then I could go for years without meeting anybody in the UK with a Mac. Nobody at work even considers Apple when getting a new computer. We've only had a Apple retail store or 2 here in the UK for a few years. Apple are only just opening their first store in continental Europe. I believe that Macs already have a disproportionately large number of column inches dedicated towards them, and Apple get a much easier ride with the press, not least because quite a lot of journalists have Macs. Personally I would want to consider cross-platform compatibility when developing a site/service, but I still expect Windows-based machines to dominate for years to come. For Apples share to change significantly in the short-medium term, they need to get cheaper. I bought 2 Macs last year but really they reprensent very very poor value compared to the equivalent PC. The new Mac Intel chips will help this a bit, but the price of PC stuff just keep tumbling so I dunno, hard to tell what will happen. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Lanza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meanwhile, Macs recently passed 5% market share for PCs. They almost doubled market share right before switching microprocessor platforms, a time when nearly everyone expected their share to dip. Thus, I'd say it's clear that Mac is headed for upper single digits, if not double-digits. My conclusion is that any site based on this lame format is, well, lame for using it. As the Mac continues to gain market share in 2006, I predict that Windows Media will be dropped by many, if not most, of the serious web video sites using it today. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
But you're using javascript: links, which is troublesome (doesn't degrade gracefully). Then you also have to create additional download links for Feedburner and other spiders. Yeah the play links on my site are JavaScript links, but so far that hasnt been a reported problem. My site generates its own feed with enclosures, so I dont need to rely on feedburner or anything else to catch them. I only added the download links for completeness sake. Like I said, I'm not sure my script is too portable ... it relies on the custom built system that is in place at DavidMeade.com. But I like the way you've done yours, Andreas. Maybe I'll revamp mine someday to be more ... degrade-able :-P It's exactly the attaching of an even on a normal link I was having trouble getting to work in IE. I only spent ten minutes on it so I'm sure it can be made to work in IE. Mine seems to work on both IE and Firefox. On 1/20/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:48:38 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do something like this one my site as well (http://www.davidmeade.com) and I like the effect ... I've got it working with quicktime, windows media, and audio files. But you're using javascript: links, which is troublesome (doesn't degrade gracefully). Then you also have to create additional download links for Feedburner and other spiders. It's exactly the attaching of an even on a normal link I was having trouble getting to work in IE. I only spent ten minutes on it so I'm sure it can be made to work in IE. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are You Going to SXSW?
Ya, I'm sorry I missed the SF party. I'll be there through the Interactive and at least some of the music venue. - TedOn 1/20/06, Corey Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'll be there for the full 9 days - interactive through the end of the music festival. for anyone who stays past interactive, IODA is having aday-party at Emo's Annex on (the ides of) March 15, 1pm - 5pm, 5+ livebands, a special guest appearance drinks - sxsw style.Vlogging is welcome. we may possibly even have some goodie bags, ya neverknow.details later, just letting you know now that you are allmaking plans!I've been attending the sxsw music festival for yearsbut this is my first time at interactive, really looking forward to it. 'Twas nice to meet a lot of interactive attendees on monday night atthe SxSWi party in sfsee you in Austin?CoreyOn Jan 20, 2006, at 6:25 AM, leslye penelope wrote:I'm definitely going to SXSW, registration is taken care of, now i just need to find some plane tickets. -- http://www.phatalspin.com/vlog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group videoblogging on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.-- Ted TagamiPrincipal, Universus NetworksU N I V E R S U S . N E T YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Convert .ASF to .MOV on a Mac?
Theres probably other options, but the one Ive tried (just now with an asf) is iSquint, which will convert asf to mp4 or h264 and can be used in an easy mode or more advanced options if desired. http://www.isquint.org Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a way to convert a .asf to .mov on a Mac? I have a friend with one of those $100 SD cameras and a Mac. I found solutions for PCs but I need one for Mac if possible. Thanks, Verdi Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] IRC? chat?
Doesn't vlogdir have a chat, michael? vlogdir.orgOn 1/20/06, bleedxapathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are there any video blogging irc channels on any irc server?any kind of chat existing?link me up http://ba-vlog.livejournal.com/-bxa -- i was crying my ass off long before it was cool be to be emo... SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ---Brett Gaylorhttp://www.etherworks.cahttp://www.homelessnation.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] New here and a question about the tutorial?
Instead of using Ourmedia would'nt YouTube be just the same? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Convert .ASF to .MOV on a Mac?
Hey Steve,I just tried this and I got file that has no sound and is all black except for a few random squares of color at the top. It's the same as the file looks when I open it in QuickTime via the flip-4-mac plugin. I can open the original asf file with VLC and it looks fine so I know the file is okay. Any ideas?Thanks,VerdiOn 1/20/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Theres probably other options, but the one Ive tried (just now with an asf) is iSquint, which will convert asf to mp4 or h264 and can be usedin an easy mode or more advanced options if desired.http://www.isquint.orgSteve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a way to convert a .asf to .mov on a Mac? I have a friend with one of those $100 SD cameras and a Mac. I foundsolutions for PCs but I need one for Mac if possible. Thanks, VerdiYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- --Me: http://michaelverdi.comRD: http://evilvlog.comLearn to videoblog: http://freevlog.orgLearn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: DV to iPod (320x240) dilemna
Its a sad joke that Apple still havent fixed this ( I was hoping QT7.0.4 fixed it but just tried and no, still doesnt take account of rectangular pixels). When this problem was first discussed here, I got it as wrong as Apple (mind mess over rectangualr pixels), but its inexcusable that they havent sorted it out yet, all these years I heard how Apple were better for video and then they make a mistake like this. Regarding why your workarounds havent worked: When you tried going to 640x480 first, you then tried exporting the 640x480 version using the 'export to ipod (320x240)'? And this fixed the 320x213 issue but the video quality wasnt as good? Strange, as I wouldnt have expected pre-reducing to 640x480 to affect the quality of the final m4v file, unles the 640x480 resizing hasnt been done properly (eg interlacing issues) or Apple ahve something strange going on with the ipod export resize filters. As far as what the nearest manual settings are for achieving the same as apples ipod export option, its possible apple have done some special tweaks to that mode, but its possible to get nearly the same manually: Export to mpeg4 Video type: H264 bitrate: about 700kbits/sec frame rate same as source Key frame: dunno, experiment press 'video options' button: Untick Main, tick Baseline Choose Best quality or Faster Encode (see below)* Audio: AAC-LC (Music) 128 kbps rest of audio settings probably dont matter much *Apple made some ipod export changes with qt7.0.4 compared to 7.0.3. Based on encoding times, I believe QT7.0.3 ipod export used multi-pass mode (so better quality) but Apple were getting stick for how slow the export was, so in QT7.0.4 theyve changed it to Single-Pass to stop encoding times being too depressing. Take your pick. Hoe that helps a little, if you are on a Mac then consider trying alternative encoders like iSquint to see if you prefer the quality, if you are on Windows there are other options too. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, civanyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: Had anyone had any luck replicating the sharpness, and file size of the export to iPod 320x240 function, but by doing it manually? I have found the quality, and file size of export to iPod (320x240) to be very appealing, with one exception, the stretch factor. Why does Apple not take into consideration the rectangular pixels of the 720x480 format, and make them square to a true 320x240 size, not 320x213? Because every time I have tried a manual compression from DV to 320x240, the image is just not as sharp, and the file sizes are larger than the standard export to iPod 320-x240. And I have tried a variety of compressions. I have tried making a self-contained 720x480 DV NTSC movie into a 640x480 DV NTSC movie. Then, I have done a variety of manual compressions, m4v, mp4, mov, with Video, or Sorenson 3, or MPEG$ settings. (The h.264 is definitely the best in quality and size). But again, none of the manual compression schemes come up to the quality of the automatic export to iPod (320x240) I have also tried going directly to 320 x 240 DV NTSC from 720x480, and worked a variety of manual compressions, but to no avail. I am curious to know if others have had similar experiences. Chris Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Oh I uploaded my video on ourmedia but I cant see it.
Could it be because I used a webcam instead? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Convert .ASF to .MOV on a Mac?
OK I guess its possible there is more than one sort of ask and the type you are trying is less compatible. VLC does have a video conversion function built in that you could try, Ive been trying but its a bit buggy, the key is working out what export format it will handle properly. In VLC, File-Open File Select asf file Tick 'Advanced Output' box Press Settings Button Choose destination file container format using the 'encapsulation method' dropdown. Leave output option set to file and Browse to give it a destination name for the converted output file Mess around with the video and audio transcode options, dunno what combination will work best/at all. Press OK Press Ok again and instead of playing the file, VLC will convert it. Like I said, I didnt have much luck creating a file using that method, but I dont know why yet. Maybe the 'treat as a pipe rather than as a file' option will make a difference, I dunno. If all else fails and the asf file your using is weird you could send it to me if you want me to investigate further. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Steve, I just tried this and I got file that has no sound and is all black except for a few random squares of color at the top. It's the same as the file looks when I open it in QuickTime via the flip-4-mac plugin. I can open the original asf file with VLC and it looks fine so I know the file is okay. Any ideas? Thanks, Verdi Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are You Going to SXSW?
i'll be there for interactive and maybe part of music. irina too and we'll be cranking out a few GETV episodes while we're there. -eddie On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:00:36PM -, James A. Donnelly wrote: Besides Verdi and Andrew... anyone else going to SXSW, TX in March? jadonnelly madpod.com dummycast.com petsonboard.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: DV to iPod (320x240) dilemna
try the videora ipod converter. if that'll help any? -bxa On 1/20/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its a sad joke that Apple still havent fixed this ( I was hopingQT7.0.4 fixed it but just tried and no, still doesnt take account of rectangular pixels).When this problem was first discussed here, I got it as wrong as Apple(mind mess over rectangualr pixels), but its inexcusable that theyhavent sorted it out yet, all these years I heard how Apple were better for video and then they make a mistake like this.Regarding why your workarounds havent worked:When you tried going to 640x480 first, you then tried exporting the640x480 version using the 'export to ipod (320x240)'? And this fixed the 320x213 issue but the video quality wasnt as good? Strange, as Iwouldnt have expected pre-reducing to 640x480 to affect the quality ofthe final m4v file, unles the 640x480 resizing hasnt been doneproperly (eg interlacing issues) or Apple ahve something strange going on with the ipod export resize filters.As far as what the nearest manual settings are for achieving the sameas apples ipod export option, its possible apple have done somespecial tweaks to that mode, but its possible to get nearly the same manually:Export to mpeg4Video type: H264bitrate: about 700kbits/secframe rate same as sourceKey frame: dunno, experimentpress 'video options' button:Untick Main, tick BaselineChoose Best quality or Faster Encode (see below)* Audio:AAC-LC (Music)128 kbpsrest of audio settings probably dont matter much*Apple made some ipod export changes with qt7.0.4 compared to 7.0.3.Based on encoding times, I believe QT7.0.3 ipod export used multi-passmode (so better quality) but Apple were getting stick for how slow theexport was, so in QT7.0.4 theyve changed it to Single-Pass to stopencoding times being too depressing. Take your pick. Hoe that helps a little, if you are on a Mac then consider tryingalternative encoders like iSquint to see if you prefer the quality, ifyou are on Windows there are other options too.Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, civanyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: Had anyone had any luck replicating the sharpness, andfile size of the export to iPod 320x240 function, but by doing it manually? I have found the quality, and file size of export to iPod (320x240) to be very appealing, with one exception, the stretch factor. Why does Apple not takeinto consideration the rectangular pixels of the 720x480 format, and make them square to atrue 320x240 size, not 320x213? Because every time I have tried a manual compression from DV to320x240, the image is just not as sharp, and the file sizes are larger than the standardexport to iPod 320-x240. And I have tried a variety of compressions. I have tried making a self-contained 720x480 DV NTSC movie into a640x480 DV NTSC movie. Then, I have done a variety of manual compressions, m4v, mp4, mov, with Video, or Sorenson 3, or MPEG$ settings. (The h.264 is definitely the bestin quality and size). But again, none of the manual compression schemes come up to thequality of the automatic export to iPod (320x240) I have also tried going directly to 320 x 240 DV NTSC from 720x480,and worked a variety of manual compressions, but to no avail. I am curious to know if others have had similar experiences. Chris SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- i was crying my ass off long before it was cool be to be emo... YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] IRC? chat?
ya but it sucks. and no one uses it On 1/20/06, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't vlogdir have a chat, michael? vlogdir.org On 1/20/06, bleedxapathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are there any video blogging irc channels on any irc server?any kind of chat existing?link me up http://ba-vlog.livejournal.com/-bxa-- i was crying my ass off long before it was cool be to be emo... SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ---Brett Gaylorhttp://www.etherworks.ca http://www.homelessnation.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- i was crying my ass off long before it was cool be to be emo... YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] IRC? chat?
blip.tv used to have a chat... where did it go?On 1/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:yes it does, on vlogdir.comas does blip.tv.its not irc though. On 1/20/06, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't vlogdir have a chat, michael? vlogdir.orgOn 1/20/06, bleedxapathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are there any video blogging irc channels on any irc server?any kind of chat existing?link me up http://ba-vlog.livejournal.com/-bxa -- i was crying my ass off long before it was cool be to be emo... SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ---Brett Gaylorhttp://www.etherworks.ca http://www.homelessnation.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
ok so I really liked the way Andreas' script worked so I started tweaking it a bit. I'm no code wizard but I believe I have it working for QuickTime, Windows Media, MP3s, and will resize the player according to the size of the still image used to represent it. It doesn't work in IE however. my stats show that most of my visitors are still on IE (I pitty them) ... anyone know how to make it cross-browser-friendly? You can see the results of my tweaks and tweaked code here: (firefox) http://davidmeade.com/wip/media_test.php On 1/20/06, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you're using javascript: links, which is troublesome (doesn't degrade gracefully). Then you also have to create additional download links for Feedburner and other spiders. Yeah the play links on my site are JavaScript links, but so far that hasnt been a reported problem. My site generates its own feed with enclosures, so I dont need to rely on feedburner or anything else to catch them. I only added the download links for completeness sake. Like I said, I'm not sure my script is too portable ... it relies on the custom built system that is in place at DavidMeade.com. But I like the way you've done yours, Andreas. Maybe I'll revamp mine someday to be more ... degrade-able :-P It's exactly the attaching of an even on a normal link I was having trouble getting to work in IE. I only spent ten minutes on it so I'm sure it can be made to work in IE. Mine seems to work on both IE and Firefox. On 1/20/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:48:38 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do something like this one my site as well (http://www.davidmeade.com) and I like the effect ... I've got it working with quicktime, windows media, and audio files. But you're using javascript: links, which is troublesome (doesn't degrade gracefully). Then you also have to create additional download links for Feedburner and other spiders. It's exactly the attaching of an even on a normal link I was having trouble getting to work in IE. I only spent ten minutes on it so I'm sure it can be made to work in IE. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] IRC? chat?
yes it does, on vlogdir.comas does blip.tv.its not irc though. On 1/20/06, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't vlogdir have a chat, michael? vlogdir.orgOn 1/20/06, bleedxapathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are there any video blogging irc channels on any irc server?any kind of chat existing?link me up http://ba-vlog.livejournal.com/-bxa -- i was crying my ass off long before it was cool be to be emo... SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ---Brett Gaylorhttp://www.etherworks.ca http://www.homelessnation.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
Has anyone here been playing w/ the new Flash Video Encoder included w/ Flash 8 Pro? The On2 VPC codec produces a pretty nice file. I haven't had time to test compression. This output requires the flash 8 plugin to playback. I have been having some problems with the new flvplayback component, but all-in-all...the new stuff is pretty nice. You can included cuepoints before compression, then call those points with the actionscript. They also included Alpha layers. Again..I have only been playing with it and haven't published anything. Here's an example from my vlog: http://www.brandbutter.com/vlog/archives/strategy/index.html --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Im no fan of windows media, but Im also more than a little skeptical about hopes that Apples market share is going to go large enough soon enough to make your conclusions totally valid. Is all this 'market share' stuff just based on volumes of computers sold in any particular quarter? If so then this doesnt tell us what percentage of active computers on the net are Macs, which is more important. If I wasnt into VJing then I could go for years without meeting anybody in the UK with a Mac. Nobody at work even considers Apple when getting a new computer. We've only had a Apple retail store or 2 here in the UK for a few years. Apple are only just opening their first store in continental Europe. I believe that Macs already have a disproportionately large number of column inches dedicated towards them, and Apple get a much easier ride with the press, not least because quite a lot of journalists have Macs. Personally I would want to consider cross-platform compatibility when developing a site/service, but I still expect Windows-based machines to dominate for years to come. For Apples share to change significantly in the short-medium term, they need to get cheaper. I bought 2 Macs last year but really they reprensent very very poor value compared to the equivalent PC. The new Mac Intel chips will help this a bit, but the price of PC stuff just keep tumbling so I dunno, hard to tell what will happen. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Lanza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meanwhile, Macs recently passed 5% market share for PCs. They almost doubled market share right before switching microprocessor platforms, a time when nearly everyone expected their share to dip. Thus, I'd say it's clear that Mac is headed for upper single digits, if not double-digits. My conclusion is that any site based on this lame format is, well, lame for using it. As the Mac continues to gain market share in 2006, I predict that Windows Media will be dropped by many, if not most, of the serious web video sites using it today. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
Have you checked out all the licensing stuff on DivXs site? Thats the biggest part of the puzzle not yet completed yet as far as DivX goes. Too many strings attached at the moment, video distributors appear to be treated differently to creators, and only being granted a license to share divx stuff for 1 year is not well suited to videoblogging. Any progress on this stuff Jim? Should we be assuming that videobloggers should be doing the DivX Indy thing for now, or that you have something more flexible in the works? I congratulate DivX on the strong progress in recent months towards fixing all the technical issues, such as Mac compatibility, browser plugin (great work!) and progressive download. Once the browser plugin is out of beta, things should really start to take off. But if this happens without changes in your lciensing stuff, 2 bad things will happen: 1) Those that read the license will be putoff and stick to something with a license more suited to videobloggers such as mpeg4 or h264 2) Vast numbers of people wont read the licensing stuff at all, people will start publishing divx stuff willy nilly, and then later if you try to reign in this activity, DivX networks will seem like the bad guy. I am begging you to take a look at the mpeg4 and h24 licenses and see if you can incorporate some similar clauses. Exempting video which is under a certain length, under a certain number of viewers, stuff like that, will be important if videobloggers who want to do things by the book (and not get potentially stung in the ass later) are to be able to use DivX with confidence. Also the current DivX Indy license is incompatible with the mash up remix sides of videoblogging culture. Indy creators are onyl allowed to distribute DivX videos of material that they are the copyright holder of. Other clauses such as 'no adult content' only add to the restrivtive feel of all this. Ive never actually looked as to whether Macromedia, Microsoft or Apple impose interesting licensing terms on their media formats, here I am just comparing DivX to what I know of the mpeg4 and h264 licenses. Cheers Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep, DivX is now a complete, high quality solution for vloggers to consider using. definately worthy of your time to evaluate and experiment. i'll be using it along with flv and quicktime on upcoming projects this year. i am also adding DivX support to vlogdir this weekend. sull On 1/20/06, JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, for DivX, check out the new browser plugin with mac support now. http://labs.divx.com/archives/72.html --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: n 1/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally, i'd use and recommend DivX over wmv! I've been messing with it for the past few weeks/month...it's really nice. I'll try to find some time and post some test pieces this weekend. The audio is a TON better than wmv. Don't know why though. Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:48:12 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok so I really liked the way Andreas' script worked so I started tweaking it a bit. I'm no code wizard but I believe I have it working for QuickTime, Windows Media, MP3s, and will resize the player according to the size of the still image used to represent it. Awesome! I'll be updating my blog. Thanks a lot! WMV doesn't work in Opera (I'm one of the five people on the planet who is a user). It downloads the file, but the play button never stops being grayed out. I had the same problem and I think Opera just doesn't work with dynamically loaded objects and WMV... Sucks. It doesn't work in IE however. my stats show that most of my visitors are still on IE (I pitty them) ... anyone know how to make it cross-browser-friendly? IE doesn't care about the return false in the replaceLink function. This is what makes any other browser stop following the link. IE's behaviour is to insert the embedded video and then follow the link. Very silly. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
Has anyone here been playing w/ the new Flash Video Encoder included w/ Flash 8 Pro? I recently switched to Flash 8 from QT. The quality is much better than it was in Flash 7. I think the compression is better, too.Only problem, is that a lot of people still haven't upgraded their players. Flash 8 won't play on older players. I have a little notice under my videos warning people in advance. Haven't had any complaints so far.I prefer to load/play my FLVs using the www.proxus.com player.joewww.HotBizz.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] What's up with Apple and RSS?
So we've talked many times about the weird stuff Apple added to RSS for use in the iTunes store.Then today I read this about it's new Photocasting thing: URL: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2148908/rss-community-blasts-apple So I figured I'd give that iWeb thing a try and see what kind of RSS feed I got. Well here is my result: URL: http://michaelverdi.com/iwebtest It the site works but neither iTunes nor FireAnt recognize the feed as valid. Also they way they structure the link to the RSS feed will prevent most people from using it in anything other than iTunes - NOT COOL! -Verdi-- --Me: http://michaelverdi.comRD: http://evilvlog.comLearn to videoblog: http://freevlog.orgLearn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: What's up with Apple and RSS?
Apple are turning into selfish polluters of many modern web developments if you ask me! Youve got iWeb so tell me is it true, that theyve included 'blog' stuff but not as we know ie, ie no comment system!?! I can see why for technical reasons it would be harder to include a comment system, but really, argh, if Apple carry on at this pace they will have bastardised everything we take forgranted by the end of 2006! Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we've talked many times about the weird stuff Apple added to RSS for use in the iTunes store. Then today I read this about it's new Photocasting thing: URL: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2148908/rss-community-blasts-apple So I figured I'd give that iWeb thing a try and see what kind of RSS feed I got. Well here is my result: URL: http://michaelverdi.com/iwebtest It the site works but neither iTunes nor FireAnt recognize the feed as valid. Also they way they structure the link to the RSS feed will prevent most people from using it in anything other than iTunes - NOT COOL! -Verdi -- -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://evilvlog.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
Maybe for IE we could rewrite the HREF value to # ??? On 1/20/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:48:12 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok so I really liked the way Andreas' script worked so I started tweaking it a bit. I'm no code wizard but I believe I have it working for QuickTime, Windows Media, MP3s, and will resize the player according to the size of the still image used to represent it. Awesome! I'll be updating my blog. Thanks a lot! WMV doesn't work in Opera (I'm one of the five people on the planet who is a user). It downloads the file, but the play button never stops being grayed out. I had the same problem and I think Opera just doesn't work with dynamically loaded objects and WMV... Sucks. It doesn't work in IE however. my stats show that most of my visitors are still on IE (I pitty them) ... anyone know how to make it cross-browser-friendly? IE doesn't care about the return false in the replaceLink function. This is what makes any other browser stop following the link. IE's behaviour is to insert the embedded video and then follow the link. Very silly. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: DV to iPod (320x240) dilemna
I've tried this one a number of times, but it just does not compare in sharpness, and size to the auto export to iPod (320x240). But this may all be mute, if in fact that 7.0.4 does not do a multi-pass. I have not tried it yet, but I have a sneaky feeling that the quality will drop with the single pass. Which means getting back to 7.0.3 somehow. Thanks Steve, you always come through... Chris ps I have yet to try iSquint, or Divx for that matter. Export to mpeg4 Video type: H264 bitrate: about 700kbits/sec frame rate same as source Key frame: dunno, experiment press 'video options' button: Untick Main, tick Baseline Choose Best quality or Faster Encode (see below)* Audio: AAC-LC (Music) 128 kbps rest of audio settings probably dont matter much *Apple made some ipod export changes with qt7.0.4 compared to 7.0.3. Based on encoding times, I believe QT7.0.3 ipod export used multi-pass mode (so better quality) but Apple were getting stick for how slow the export was, so in QT7.0.4 theyve changed it to Single-Pass to stop encoding times being too depressing. Take your pick. Hoe that helps a little, if you are on a Mac then consider trying alternative encoders like iSquint to see if you prefer the quality, if you are on Windows there are other options too. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, civanyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: Had anyone had any luck replicating the sharpness, and file size of the export to iPod 320x240 function, but by doing it manually? I have found the quality, and file size of export to iPod (320x240) to be very appealing, with one exception, the stretch factor. Why does Apple not take into consideration the rectangular pixels of the 720x480 format, and make them square to a true 320x240 size, not 320x213? Because every time I have tried a manual compression from DV to 320x240, the image is just not as sharp, and the file sizes are larger than the standard export to iPod 320-x240. And I have tried a variety of compressions. I have tried making a self-contained 720x480 DV NTSC movie into a 640x480 DV NTSC movie. Then, I have done a variety of manual compressions, m4v, mp4, mov, with Video, or Sorenson 3, or MPEG$ settings. (The h.264 is definitely the best in quality and size). But again, none of the manual compression schemes come up to the quality of the automatic export to iPod (320x240) I have also tried going directly to 320 x 240 DV NTSC from 720x480, and worked a variety of manual compressions, but to no avail. I am curious to know if others have had similar experiences. Chris Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] What's up with Apple and RSS?
The RSS is FUBAR. In its infinite wisdom Apple has (again) created whole new tags where old ones would do. Like a apple-wallpapers:image tag where they really just should have used the enclosure tag everyone else has been using for years. This is what happens when you don't fucking talk with the community. - Andreas On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:06:44 +0100, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we've talked many times about the weird stuff Apple added to RSS for use in the iTunes store. Then today I read this about it's new Photocasting thing: URL: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2148908/rss-community-blasts-apple So I figured I'd give that iWeb thing a try and see what kind of RSS feed I got. Well here is my result: URL: http://michaelverdi.com/iwebtest It the site works but neither iTunes nor FireAnt recognize the feed as valid. Also they way they structure the link to the RSS feed will prevent most people from using it in anything other than iTunes - NOT COOL! -Verdi -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: What's up with Apple and RSS?
iWeb = no commentsI'm guessing they didn't want to mess with databases?On 1/20/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Apple are turning into selfish polluters of many modern webdevelopments if you ask me! Youve got iWeb so tell me is it true, that theyve included 'blog'stuff but not as we know ie, ie no comment system!?!I can see why for technical reasons it would be harder to include acomment system, but really, argh, if Apple carry on at this pace they will have bastardised everything we take forgranted by the end of 2006!Steve of Elbows--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... wrote: So we've talked many times about the weird stuff Apple added to RSSfor use in the iTunes store. Then today I read this about it's new Photocasting thing: URL: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2148908/rss-community-blasts-apple So I figured I'd give that iWeb thing a try and see what kind of RSS feed I got. Well here is my result: URL: http://michaelverdi.com/iwebtest It the site works but neither iTunes nor FireAnt recognize the feed as valid. Also they way they structure the link to the RSS feed will prevent mostpeople from using it in anything other than iTunes - NOT COOL! -Verdi -- -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://evilvlog.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.orgYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- --Me: http://michaelverdi.comRD: http://evilvlog.comLearn to videoblog: http://freevlog.orgLearn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: What's up with Apple and RSS?
It's a little reminisant of the way Microsoft does things. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The RSS is FUBAR. In its infinite wisdom Apple has (again) created whole new tags where old ones would do. Like a apple-wallpapers:image tag where they really just should have used the enclosure tag everyone else has been using for years. This is what happens when you don't fucking talk with the community. - Andreas On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:06:44 +0100, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we've talked many times about the weird stuff Apple added to RSS for use in the iTunes store. Then today I read this about it's new Photocasting thing: URL: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2148908/rss-community-blasts-apple So I figured I'd give that iWeb thing a try and see what kind of RSS feed I got. Well here is my result: URL: http://michaelverdi.com/iwebtest It the site works but neither iTunes nor FireAnt recognize the feed as valid. Also they way they structure the link to the RSS feed will prevent most people from using it in anything other than iTunes - NOT COOL! -Verdi -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: sony hdr-fx1
Deinterlacing yes a pain, big dissapointment to me that there werent more free/cheap OS X deinterlacing tools. DivX might be able to gain a significant advantage here as there is a deinterlacing option that works built into its converter on Windows and Mac. Im still experimenting with it, dunno if I am even allowed to post DivX test vids due to licensing issues I waffled about earlier! As you dont need to worry about deinterlacing till you encode your video to a resolution thats more than half the vertical resolution of the original, HDV camera users are at an advantage (because they can go up to 960x540 final output res before interlacing issues kick in, as 540= half of 1080 the HDV vertical resolution). I think if people want to go up to resolutions like 640x480 you may as well consider going for native DV resolution instead, as you are going to have to bother about deinterlacing anyway, is there any point shrinking the video just a little bit to 640x480? I guess this partly depends on how things develop with people watching internet video on TV screens in future. I wouldnt be half surprised if things move towards TV resolutions rather than traditional computer resolutions. I go out on limb and predict that 720P (1280x720) may become a popular target resolution at some point. Your video looks ok fullscreen, but largely due to the quality of the original camera footage as opposed to the bitrate res you are using now. The res etc youve chosen makes sense, its not very different from the standard res most people are using, and it looks good enough to me. For sure that doesnt stop me saying that a 960x540 version at a bitrate of somewhere between 1500 and 2000 would look real nice, but will cause all the negative affects people have understandably brought up in this thread. Certainly I wouldnt change to a larger version if I was bandwidth-challenged, and I wouldnt upgrade the res of the videos in an existing feed because yes, many people will only want small videos and could unsubscribe. I expect this stuff to slowly grow with people adding higher definitioon versions as options for those that want such things. And the sort of content really does make a big difference to whether there is any point going to a higher res. Just think of which TV shows are enhanced by being HD, and which genres its not so important for. Cheers Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the Sony HC1, and for my Quicktime feed I'm using 400 x 225. Weird I know, but looks pretty good and should handle being blow up bigger. Sorenson Squeeze has a deinterlace, which isn't really necessary if you're shrinking your video. I'm not sure how much processing time it adds but I'd like to experiment with a larger format feed. Another potential issue is the additional bandwidth of large videos. I prefer to jusst FTP my videos to one of my servers since it takes more time to use Blip.tv (for example), but I have to watch my bandwidth limits. -chuck http://mnstories.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the biggest reason more people aren't doing 640 X 480 is the de-interlacing problem. It takes a long time to deinterlace your video and it's difficult to get good results. Anyone out there have a good way to do this? -Verdi Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: What's up with Apple and RSS?
Steve Watkins wrote: Apple are turning into selfish polluters of many modern web developments if you ask me! Youve got iWeb so tell me is it true, that theyve included 'blog' stuff but not as we know ie, ie no comment system!?! I can see why for technical reasons it would be harder to include a comment system, but really, argh, if Apple carry on at this pace they will have bastardised everything we take forgranted by the end of 2006! Building a weblogging app that publishes out static pages is easy, we've been doing that for nearly 10 years now, but building one that supports comments properly is harder. Blogger didn't do comments at first either. Not that I'm apologizing for Apple, they are still f'ing up... but Blogs without comments can exist (see scripting.com) Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
Andreas Haugstrup wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:48:38 +0100, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do something like this one my site as well (http://www.davidmeade.com) and I like the effect ... I've got it working with quicktime, windows media, and audio files. But you're using javascript: links, which is troublesome (doesn't degrade gracefully). Then you also have to create additional download links for Feedburner and other spiders. It's exactly the attaching of an even on a normal link I was having trouble getting to work in IE. I only spent ten minutes on it so I'm sure it can be made to work in IE. Can't you supply the real url but use an onclick handler? Then clients without Javascript can still get to it: a href=http://foo.com/; onclick=window.open('http://foo.com/');return falsehttp://foo.com//a or better (if it works for you): a href=http://foo.com/; onclick=window.open(this.href)http://foo.com//a Take another look at the page Josh has: http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker/ for some example code. Let's make things valid and accessible if possible... Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: What's up with Apple and RSS?
Cheers for the confirmation. Yes I agree its almost certainly cos they didnt want to get into the whole database thing,b ut what this really means is that they arent getting into many of the things that make a blog a blog, and a blog publishing system a blog publishing system. It sounds like iWeb is really just a sort of 'personal website creator ' simplesoft like has been around for years, but theyve stolen some of the brand and style from blog developments in recent years. Not dissimilar to what theyve done with podcasting etc. .Mac, your own personal slice of the internet circa 1996 Just as bad as Microsoft, just with slightly better style propaganda, and quicker to hijack new phenomenon. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iWeb = no comments I'm guessing they didn't want to mess with databases? On 1/20/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple are turning into selfish polluters of many modern web developments if you ask me! Youve got iWeb so tell me is it true, that theyve included 'blog' stuff but not as we know ie, ie no comment system!?! I can see why for technical reasons it would be harder to include a comment system, but really, argh, if Apple carry on at this pace they will have bastardised everything we take forgranted by the end of 2006! Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we've talked many times about the weird stuff Apple added to RSS for use in the iTunes store. Then today I read this about it's new Photocasting thing: URL: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2148908/rss-community-blasts-apple So I figured I'd give that iWeb thing a try and see what kind of RSS feed I got. Well here is my result: URL: http://michaelverdi.com/iwebtest It the site works but neither iTunes nor FireAnt recognize the feed as valid. Also they way they structure the link to the RSS feed will prevent most people from using it in anything other than iTunes - NOT COOL! -Verdi -- -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://evilvlog.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links -- -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://evilvlog.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
Can't you supply the real url but use an onclick handler? Then clients without Javascript can still get to it: a href=http://foo.com/; onclick=window.open('http://foo.com/');return falsehttp://foo.com//a Yep. This is the reason I wrote the popup generator like this. No hidden links. Take another look at the page Josh has: http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker/ for some example code. Let's make things valid and accessible if possible... Yes, totally agree ;-) -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Are You Going to SXSW?
I'm on the fence. This would be the first year in MANY that I have not made it. We shall see. -Halcyon On 1/20/06, Eddie Codel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'll be there for interactive and maybe part of music. irina too and we'll be cranking out a few GETV episodes while we're there. -eddie On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:00:36PM -, James A. Donnelly wrote: Besides Verdi and Andrew... anyone else going to SXSW, TX in March? jadonnelly madpod.com dummycast.com petsonboard.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
I think Flash 8 video looks pretty good on the web. My problems with it are: - Requires Flash to encode Flash 8 video. Flash is very expensive software. - Requires Flash 8 plugin to view and is not backwards compatible with previous versions of Flash plugin (if you can't install quicktime plugin, you won't be able to install Flash plugin either). - Still doesn't solve the portability issue with Flash, being that the video file requires a separate controller for playback. Why can't Flash natively play Flash video without a controller? I know its possible to do some cool stuff now with Flash/Actionscript, and there is a new external API for Actionscript that I need to learn more about, but that requires way more development in Flash/Actionscript than I'd care for. my 2 cents. -Josh On 1/20/06, Joe Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone here been playing w/ the new Flash Video Encoder included w/ Flash 8 Pro? I recently switched to Flash 8 from QT. The quality is much better than it was in Flash 7. I think the compression is better, too. Only problem, is that a lot of people still haven't upgraded their players. Flash 8 won't play on older players. I have a little notice under my videos warning people in advance. Haven't had any complaints so far. I prefer to load/play my FLVs using the www.proxus.com player. joe www.HotBizz.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vlogging @ SXSW Interactive
!?!? I thought I had a contract to be involved in ALL nudity-related SXSW panels. Hugh is getting a spanking. -Halcyon cockybastard.com On 1/20/06, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OMG. I thought that was just a running joke, but there it is! Should be Halcyon and Verdi... in the buff. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like Verdi is in a panel on the first day: We Got Naked, Now What? ;) Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.SpreadingThePink.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: What's up with Apple and RSS?
what's up with that itpc protocol? wtf is that? oh i see, it launches iTunes. What happens if you don't have iTunes? anybody want to check? When you create the page in iweb does it ask you what protocol you would like to use? Casual and new users publishing with iweb won't know what the dealio is anyway, if this itpc thing is the default, most users of iweb will simply publish their xml urls using that protocol. This is surely f'd up IMHO. On 1/20/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers for the confirmation. Yes I agree its almost certainly cos they didnt want to get into the whole database thing,b ut what this really means is that they arent getting into many of the things that make a blog a blog, and a blog publishing system a blog publishing system. It sounds like iWeb is really just a sort of 'personal website creator ' simplesoft like has been around for years, but theyve stolen some of the brand and style from blog developments in recent years. Not dissimilar to what theyve done with podcasting etc. .Mac, your own personal slice of the internet circa 1996 Just as bad as Microsoft, just with slightly better style propaganda, and quicker to hijack new phenomenon. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iWeb = no comments I'm guessing they didn't want to mess with databases? On 1/20/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple are turning into selfish polluters of many modern web developments if you ask me! Youve got iWeb so tell me is it true, that theyve included 'blog' stuff but not as we know ie, ie no comment system!?! I can see why for technical reasons it would be harder to include a comment system, but really, argh, if Apple carry on at this pace they will have bastardised everything we take forgranted by the end of 2006! Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we've talked many times about the weird stuff Apple added to RSS for use in the iTunes store. Then today I read this about it's new Photocasting thing: URL: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2148908/rss-community-blasts-apple So I figured I'd give that iWeb thing a try and see what kind of RSS feed I got. Well here is my result: URL: http://michaelverdi.com/iwebtest It the site works but neither iTunes nor FireAnt recognize the feed as valid. Also they way they structure the link to the RSS feed will prevent most people from using it in anything other than iTunes - NOT COOL! -Verdi -- -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://evilvlog.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links -- -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://evilvlog.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Oh I uploaded my video on ourmedia but I cant see it.
If the problem is that you get a page saying the video will show up there sometime in the future - don't believe it. This almost always means you have to upload again.-VerdiOn 1/20/06, eldreamer81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could it be because I used a webcam instead?Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- --Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://evilvlog.comLearn to videoblog: http://freevlog.orgLearn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
fyi, Steve is referring to 'Indy' License which can be found here:http://www.divx.com/company/partner/indies/Your concerns are legit. Let's see what Jim has to say about it However, worse case for a vlogger using DivX today and who want to provide more licensing flexibility so that others can share and remix etc you simply offer the video in another format such as one of the mp4. In fact, if you are serious enough to be using DivX, then you probably are making other formats available for use on video iPods etcetera. I think even without any ammendments to the DivX Indy License, DivX is going to be a killer platform in 2006. It's just better than anything else and now with the browser plugins for both mac and win its beautiful! With a few adjustments to the licensing... it could be almost perfect ;-)sullOn 1/20/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Have you checked out all the licensing stuff on DivXs site? Thats the biggest part of the puzzle not yet completed yet as far as DivX goes.Too many strings attached at the moment, video distributors appear tobe treated differently to creators, and only being granted a license to share divx stuff for 1 year is not well suited to videoblogging.Any progress on this stuff Jim? Should we be assuming thatvideobloggers should be doing the DivX Indy thing for now, or that youhave something more flexible in the works? I congratulate DivX on the strong progress in recent months towardsfixing all the technical issues, such as Mac compatibility, browserplugin (great work!) and progressive download.Once the browser plugin is out of beta, things should really start to take off. But if this happens without changes in your lciensing stuff,2 bad things will happen:1) Those that read the license will be putoff and stick to somethingwith a license more suited to videobloggers such as mpeg4 or h264 2) Vast numbers of people wont read the licensing stuff at all, peoplewill start publishing divx stuff willy nilly, and then later if youtry to reign in this activity, DivX networks will seem like the bad guy. I am begging you to take a look at the mpeg4 and h24 licenses and seeif you can incorporate some similar clauses. Exempting video which isunder a certain length, under a certain number of viewers, stuff like that, will be important if videobloggers who want to do things by thebook (and not get potentially stung in the ass later) are to be ableto use DivX with confidence.Also the current DivX Indy license is incompatible with the mash up remix sides of videoblogging culture. Indy creators are onyl allowedto distribute DivX videos of material that they are the copyrightholder of.Other clauses such as 'no adult content' only add to the restrivtive feel of all this.Ive never actually looked as to whether Macromedia, Microsoft or Appleimpose interesting licensing terms on their media formats, here I amjust comparing DivX to what I know of the mpeg4 and h264 licenses. CheersSteve of Elbows--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep, DivX is now a complete, high quality solution for vloggers to consider using. definately worthy of your time to evaluate and experiment. i'll be using it along with flv and quicktime on upcoming projects this year. i am also adding DivX support to vlogdir this weekend. sull On 1/20/06, JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, for DivX, check out the new browser plugin with mac support now. http://labs.divx.com/archives/72.html --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: n 1/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally, i'd use and recommend DivX over wmv! I've been messing with it for the past few weeks/month...it's really nice. I'll try to find some time and post some test pieces this weekend. The audio is a TON better than wmv. Don't know why though. Yahoo! Groups Links-- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth andrevelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / VlogosphereAggregatorYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator SPONSORED LINKS
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogging @ SXSW Interactive
I'll be there and speaking on the most boring title for a panel: How To Put video on a blog. What an engaging title; hopefully those of us speaking will be more entertaining. In fact, I PROMISE you we will. I'm also staying for the music-- which will be my 3rd time. I love SXSW. schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://bayarea.node101.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good news - SXSW added some vlogging-related panels on the last day: http://2006.sxsw.com/interactive/programming/panels/ I don't think these panels are fleshed out yet, but I see - DIY Media: Consumer is the Producer - How to Add Video to Your Blog - Video Blogging Business Models That last one is no joke! Andrew Baron and I are both on the panel, I don't know who else. Is anybody here on a panel? I remember people talking about some spontaneous Node101 action in the hallways. That would be renegade fresh. SXSW is incredibly fun, and you meet so many cool people (web-famous and otherwise). Not to mention the film and music. Let's vlog the crap out of SXSW people. It's a happy geek vibe. Hey Verdi, can we revive SXSWvlog.blogspot.com? cheers, chuck Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Animation???
Clearly this is a newbie question of epic proportion but... Animation tips? I'm suffering huge fits of jealousy as I view other vlogs that have some wonderful animations and was hoping for maybe a smattering of urls to handy animation tip sites tutorials etcetera. Currently I'm using Adobe premier elements and sometimes movie maker when making my things. Dunno if I need to be using a specific program to do animations. Essentially I'm totally lost here. Somebody throw me a rope? Thanks ever so, Lis Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Video blogging platforms?
Are there any dedicated video blog platform, where you install it and upload videos and have them posted as a gallery , with automatic thumbnail genration, so the user can add comments?How is the best/easy way to achieve this? ( apart from using blogger)Thanks Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
Speaking of cool thing w/Actionscript and flash video... Keith Peters over at bit-101.com did a cool example w/ a webcam. If you have a webcam...check out his sept. 8th entry. You have to click on lauch bit 101 experiments at the top of the page. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Flash 8 video looks pretty good on the web. My problems with it are: - Requires Flash to encode Flash 8 video. Flash is very expensive software. - Requires Flash 8 plugin to view and is not backwards compatible with previous versions of Flash plugin (if you can't install quicktime plugin, you won't be able to install Flash plugin either). - Still doesn't solve the portability issue with Flash, being that the video file requires a separate controller for playback. Why can't Flash natively play Flash video without a controller? I know its possible to do some cool stuff now with Flash/Actionscript, and there is a new external API for Actionscript that I need to learn more about, but that requires way more development in Flash/Actionscript than I'd care for. my 2 cents. -Josh On 1/20/06, Joe Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone here been playing w/ the new Flash Video Encoder included w/ Flash 8 Pro? I recently switched to Flash 8 from QT. The quality is much better than it was in Flash 7. I think the compression is better, too. Only problem, is that a lot of people still haven't upgraded their players. Flash 8 won't play on older players. I have a little notice under my videos warning people in advance. Haven't had any complaints so far. I prefer to load/play my FLVs using the www.proxus.com player. joe www.HotBizz.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Video blogging platforms?
That's a loaded question. There is the best way and then there is the easiest way. I really don't know of anything that will do what you want it to do right out of the box. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Siobhan Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any dedicated video blog platform, where you install it and upload videos and have them posted as a gallery , with automatic thumbnail genration, so the user can add comments? How is the best/easy way to achieve this? ( apart from using blogger) Thanks - Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Video blogging platforms?
well services like blip can cross post to your blog.If you had a wordpress blog for example you could use blip to upload your videos and it would automatically create a blog entry for you - allowing for your users to then comment. Services like feedburner would then automatically create your enclosures.- DaveOn 1/20/06, Siobhan Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any dedicated video blog platform, where you install it and upload videos and have them posted as a gallery , with automatic thumbnail genration, so the user can add comments?How is the best/easy way to achieve this? ( apart from using blogger) Thanks Yahoo! Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- http://www.DavidMeade.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogging @ SXSW Interactive
I see Philip MacGyver Torrone from makezine.com will be giving a lecture. He'll probably show everyone how to encode raw video only using a pencil, gum, paperclip, and toaster. We'll have to wait and see. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, johngaltsjournal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there and speaking on the most boring title for a panel: How To Put video on a blog. What an engaging title; hopefully those of us speaking will be more entertaining. In fact, I PROMISE you we will. I'm also staying for the music-- which will be my 3rd time. I love SXSW. schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://bayarea.node101.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good news - SXSW added some vlogging-related panels on the last day: http://2006.sxsw.com/interactive/programming/panels/ I don't think these panels are fleshed out yet, but I see - DIY Media: Consumer is the Producer - How to Add Video to Your Blog - Video Blogging Business Models That last one is no joke! Andrew Baron and I are both on the panel, I don't know who else. Is anybody here on a panel? I remember people talking about some spontaneous Node101 action in the hallways. That would be renegade fresh. SXSW is incredibly fun, and you meet so many cool people (web-famous and otherwise). Not to mention the film and music. Let's vlog the crap out of SXSW people. It's a happy geek vibe. Hey Verdi, can we revive SXSWvlog.blogspot.com? cheers, chuck Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Video blogging platforms?
Videoblogging stuff exists in some opensource blog platforms/cms stuff now, but development hasnt been all that fast, the usual sort of 'video' mdules are usually pretty simple. A likely solution would be to choose something like Drupal or Joomla (Mambo) and then install an add-on gallery module. It looks like a few gellery modules that can be run standalone or with a few CMS's now support video too. A big question however is wether they integrate with the RSS feed side of the CMS system you go for. If not these galleries may not really be properly connected to the blog side of things, depends what you want though I guess. Anyway heres hoping im all out of date or forgot about some other decent options that exist. Cheers Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Siobhan Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any dedicated video blog platform, where you install it and upload videos and have them posted as a gallery , with automatic thumbnail genration, so the user can add comments? How is the best/easy way to achieve this? ( apart from using blogger) Thanks - Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Video blogging platforms?
I found my way using WordPress. Having a weblog for over 2 years now and recently started a vlog on a new domain. I'm doing some testing over at http://vlogmatic.com and must say it looks very promissing. Only the thumbnail thing thats something else, I do not know if you could do that in an easy way, maybe wait for some programmer to develop a plugin for WordPress. Just FYI ; I run WordPress on my owned domain with a webhost so not one of the free hostingsites and upload my vids with FTP, works for me. Klaas aka Blips http://vlogmatic.com http://cpowerweb.com http://dutcheagle.com http://usadutch.com/blips --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a loaded question. There is the best way and then there is the easiest way. I really don't know of anything that will do what you want it to do right out of the box. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Siobhan Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any dedicated video blog platform, where you install it and upload videos and have them posted as a gallery , with automatic thumbnail genration, so the user can add comments? How is the best/easy way to achieve this? ( apart from using blogger) Thanks - Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Video blogging platforms?
yes, try this:http://podesk.com/Try-it-now.htmlOn 1/20/06, Siobhan Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any dedicated video blog platform, where you install it and upload videos and have them posted as a gallery , with automatic thumbnail genration, so the user can add comments?How is the best/easy way to achieve this? ( apart from using blogger) Thanks Yahoo! Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] New here and a question about the tutorial?
Here's why not to use YouTube:1. You videos won't work in an aggregator - ie iTunes, FireAnt, etc2. You grant YouTube a license to use and profit from your work.3. They stick their ugly logo on your video Here's why to use Ourmeida (or Blip.tv)1. You can upload video in the format that you want2. They don't claim any ownership over your work - they respect your creative commons license 3. It doesn't cost anything more than YouTube - ie freeTo me it's a no brainer.-VerdiOn 1/20/06, eldreamer81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Instead of using Ourmedia would'nt YouTube be just the same? Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- --Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://evilvlog.comLearn to videoblog: http://freevlog.orgLearn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Video blogging platforms?
That looks pretty nice, Sull.-JOn 1/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, try this:http://podesk.com/Try-it-now.html On 1/20/06, Siobhan Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any dedicated video blog platform, where you install it and upload videos and have them posted as a gallery , with automatic thumbnail genration, so the user can add comments?How is the best/easy way to achieve this? ( apart from using blogger) Thanks Yahoo! Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video blogging platforms?
podesk does thumbnails.http://podesk.com/Showcase.htmli've used it its pretty darn cool.still beta and you'll eventually need a license for an affordable fee. very promising platform... though not many here have commented/tried it though its been posted before. sullOn 1/20/06, usadutch2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I found my way using WordPress. Having a weblog for over 2 years now and recently started a vlog on a new domain.I'm doing some testing over at http://vlogmatic.com and must say itlooks very promissing.Only the thumbnail thing thats something else, I do not know if you could do that in an easy way, maybe wait for some programmer todevelop a plugin for WordPress.Just FYI ; I run WordPress on my owned domain with a webhost so notone of the free hostingsites and upload my vids with FTP, works for me.Klaas aka Blipshttp://vlogmatic.comhttp://cpowerweb.comhttp://dutcheagle.com http://usadutch.com/blips--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a loaded question. There is the best way and then there is the easiest way. I really don't know of anything that will do what you want it to do right out of the box. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Siobhan Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any dedicated video blog platform,where you install it and upload videos and have them posted as agallery , withautomatic thumbnail genration, so the user can addcomments? How is the best/easy way to achieve this? ( apart from using blogger) Thanks - Yahoo! Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service fromjust 8p a photo. Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video blogging platforms?
Broadcast Machine is more like what you're talking about. Its a little more like PHP-Gallery than it is like a blog. I'm not sure how much they've continued to develop it though. http://participatoryculture.org/broadcast/ -Josh On 1/20/06, usadutch2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found my way using WordPress. Having a weblog for over 2 years now and recently started a vlog on a new domain. I'm doing some testing over at http://vlogmatic.com and must say it looks very promissing. Only the thumbnail thing thats something else, I do not know if you could do that in an easy way, maybe wait for some programmer to develop a plugin for WordPress. Just FYI ; I run WordPress on my owned domain with a webhost so not one of the free hostingsites and upload my vids with FTP, works for me. Klaas aka Blips http://vlogmatic.com http://cpowerweb.com http://dutcheagle.com http://usadutch.com/blips --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a loaded question. There is the best way and then there is the easiest way. I really don't know of anything that will do what you want it to do right out of the box. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Siobhan Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any dedicated video blog platform, where you install it and upload videos and have them posted as a gallery , with automatic thumbnail genration, so the user can add comments? How is the best/easy way to achieve this? ( apart from using blogger) Thanks - Yahoo! Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Animation???
** Try Poser 6, and Mimic. jdonnelly dummycast.com madpod.com petsonboard.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, grasshopperatyourfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly this is a newbie question of epic proportion but... Animation tips? I'm suffering huge fits of jealousy as I view other vlogs that have some wonderful animations and was hoping for maybe a smattering of urls to handy animation tip sites tutorials etcetera. Currently I'm using Adobe premier elements and sometimes movie maker when making my things. Dunno if I need to be using a specific program to do animations. Essentially I'm totally lost here. Somebody throw me a rope? Thanks ever so, Lis Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
I was thinking of the remix situation from the remixers perspective, they cant publish the final mix in DivX format under the Indy licenses current terms (unless somehow it considers them to be the copyright holder). But yeah the reason Im harping on about this stuff now is because DivX has rapidly mostly solved the other big issues that made it unsuitable for videoblogging, so this license stuff is worth shouting about now. The browser plugin is nice, I like the way you can set it to automatically save the videos it shows, and can go fullscreen. I suspect Mac performance of the decoder is still a big sluggish at higher resolutions but I havent tested much yet. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fyi, Steve is referring to 'Indy' License which can be found here: http://www.divx.com/company/partner/indies/ Your concerns are legit. Let's see what Jim has to say about it However, worse case for a vlogger using DivX today and who want to provide more licensing flexibility so that others can share and remix etc you simply offer the video in another format such as one of the mp4. In fact, if you are serious enough to be using DivX, then you probably are making other formats available for use on video iPods etcetera. I think even without any ammendments to the DivX Indy License, DivX is going to be a killer platform in 2006. It's just better than anything else and now with the browser plugins for both mac and win its beautiful! With a few adjustments to the licensing... it could be almost perfect ;-) sull On 1/20/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you checked out all the licensing stuff on DivXs site? Thats the biggest part of the puzzle not yet completed yet as far as DivX goes. Too many strings attached at the moment, video distributors appear to be treated differently to creators, and only being granted a license to share divx stuff for 1 year is not well suited to videoblogging. Any progress on this stuff Jim? Should we be assuming that videobloggers should be doing the DivX Indy thing for now, or that you have something more flexible in the works? I congratulate DivX on the strong progress in recent months towards fixing all the technical issues, such as Mac compatibility, browser plugin (great work!) and progressive download. Once the browser plugin is out of beta, things should really start to take off. But if this happens without changes in your lciensing stuff, 2 bad things will happen: 1) Those that read the license will be putoff and stick to something with a license more suited to videobloggers such as mpeg4 or h264 2) Vast numbers of people wont read the licensing stuff at all, people will start publishing divx stuff willy nilly, and then later if you try to reign in this activity, DivX networks will seem like the bad guy. I am begging you to take a look at the mpeg4 and h24 licenses and see if you can incorporate some similar clauses. Exempting video which is under a certain length, under a certain number of viewers, stuff like that, will be important if videobloggers who want to do things by the book (and not get potentially stung in the ass later) are to be able to use DivX with confidence. Also the current DivX Indy license is incompatible with the mash up remix sides of videoblogging culture. Indy creators are onyl allowed to distribute DivX videos of material that they are the copyright holder of. Other clauses such as 'no adult content' only add to the restrivtive feel of all this. Ive never actually looked as to whether Macromedia, Microsoft or Apple impose interesting licensing terms on their media formats, here I am just comparing DivX to what I know of the mpeg4 and h264 licenses. Cheers Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep, DivX is now a complete, high quality solution for vloggers to consider using. definately worthy of your time to evaluate and experiment. i'll be using it along with flv and quicktime on upcoming projects this year. i am also adding DivX support to vlogdir this weekend. sull On 1/20/06, JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, for DivX, check out the new browser plugin with mac support now. http://labs.divx.com/archives/72.html --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: n 1/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally, i'd use and recommend DivX over wmv! I've been messing with it for the past few weeks/month...it's really nice. I'll try to find some time and post some test pieces this weekend. The audio is a TON better than wmv. Don't know why though. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:32:39 +0100, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't you supply the real url but use an onclick handler? Then clients without Javascript can still get to it: a href=http://foo.com/; onclick=window.open('http://foo.com/');return falsehttp://foo.com//a That would be one way. However my number one goal when I started ws that I didn't want to change the way I write links. That's why I'm not doing the onclick= thing. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the lamest format (it's not Flash video)
dig. i think maybe their are some cc license loopholes that remixers can take advantage of if using DivX. I'm glad you are bringing up these issues though... because I want the community to become more aware of DivX technology and of course, its feasibility in terms of licensing issues. back to the tech yeah, it works great on windows and i'll test on mac this weekend.i also like how you can popup the video off the page... but it relies on the page so if you nav away the player closes. still, its a cool feature. the download management from plugin is likewise extremely convenient.it's all quite intuitive and clean. very impressed and excited to start using it and even try out some of the codec features like menus and soundtracks etc. the codec rocks!sullOn 1/20/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking of the remix situation from the remixers perspective,they cant publish the final mix in DivX format under the Indy licensescurrent terms (unless somehow it considers them to be the copyrightholder). But yeah the reason Im harping on about this stuff now is because DivXhas rapidly mostly solved the other big issues that made it unsuitablefor videoblogging, so this license stuff is worth shouting about now. The browser plugin is nice, I like the way you can set it toautomatically save the videos it shows, and can go fullscreen. Isuspect Mac performance of the decoder is still a big sluggish athigher resolutions but I havent tested much yet. Steve of Elbows--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fyi, Steve is referring to 'Indy' License which can be found here: http://www.divx.com/company/partner/indies/ Your concerns are legit.Let's see what Jim has to say about it However, worse case for a vlogger using DivX today and who want to provide more licensing flexibility so that others can share and remixetc you simply offer the video in another format such as one of the mp4.Infact, if you are serious enough to be using DivX, then you probably are making other formats available for use on video iPods etcetera. I think even without any ammendments to the DivX Indy License, DivXis going to be a killer platform in 2006.It's just better than anything else and now with the browser plugins for both mac and win its beautiful! With a few adjustments to the licensing... it could be almostperfect ;-) sull On 1/20/06, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you checked out all the licensing stuff on DivXs site? Thats the biggest part of the puzzle not yet completed yet as far as DivX goes. Too many strings attached at the moment, video distributors appear to be treated differently to creators, and only being granted a license to share divx stuff for 1 year is not well suited to videoblogging. Any progress on this stuff Jim? Should we be assuming that videobloggers should be doing the DivX Indy thing for now, or that you have something more flexible in the works? I congratulate DivX on the strong progress in recent months towards fixing all the technical issues, such as Mac compatibility, browser plugin (great work!) and progressive download. Once the browser plugin is out of beta, things should really start to take off. But if this happens without changes in your lciensing stuff, 2 bad things will happen: 1) Those that read the license will be putoff and stick to something with a license more suited to videobloggers such as mpeg4 or h264 2) Vast numbers of people wont read the licensing stuff at all, people will start publishing divx stuff willy nilly, and then later if you try to reign in this activity, DivX networks will seem like thebad guy. I am begging you to take a look at the mpeg4 and h24 licenses and see if you can incorporate some similar clauses. Exempting video which is under a certain length, under a certain number of viewers, stuff like that, will be important if videobloggers who want to do things by the book (and not get potentially stung in the ass later) are to be able to use DivX with confidence. Also the current DivX Indy license is incompatible with the mash up remix sides of videoblogging culture. Indy creators are onyl allowed to distribute DivX videos of material that they are the copyright holder of. Other clauses such as 'no adult content' only add to the restrivtive feel of all this. Ive never actually looked as to whether Macromedia, Microsoft or Apple impose interesting licensing terms on their media formats, here I am just comparing DivX to what I know of the mpeg4 and h264 licenses. Cheers Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep, DivX is now a complete, high quality solution for vloggers to consider using. definately worthy of your time to evaluate and experiment. i'll be using it along with flv and quicktime on upcomingprojects this year. i am also adding DivX support to
Re: [videoblogging] Re: DV to iPod (320x240) dilemna
you cant do multi pass with the videora converter. On 1/20/06, Christopher Ivanyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried this one a number of times, but it just does not compare insharpness, and size to the auto export to iPod (320x240). But this may all be mute, if in fact that 7.0.4 does not do amulti-pass. I have not tried it yet, but I have a sneaky feeling thatthe quality will drop with the single pass. Which means getting backto 7.0.3 somehow.Thanks Steve, you always come through...Chrisps I have yet to try iSquint, or Divx for that matter. Export to mpeg4 Video type: H264 bitrate: about 700kbits/sec frame rate same as source Key frame: dunno, experiment press 'video options' button: Untick Main, tick Baseline Choose Best quality or Faster Encode (see below)* Audio: AAC-LC (Music) 128 kbps rest of audio settings probably dont matter much *Apple made some ipod export changes with qt7.0.4 compared to 7.0.3. Based on encoding times, I believe QT7.0.3 ipod export used multi-pass mode (so better quality) but Apple were getting stick for how slow the export was, so in QT7.0.4 theyve changed it to Single-Pass to stop encoding times being too depressing. Take your pick. Hoe that helps a little, if you are on a Mac then consider trying alternative encoders like iSquint to see if you prefer the quality, if you are on Windows there are other options too. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, civanyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: Had anyone had any luck replicating the sharpness, and file size of the export to iPod 320x240 function, but by doing it manually? I have found the quality, and file size of export to iPod (320x240) to be very appealing, with one exception, the stretch factor. Why does Apple not take into consideration the rectangular pixels of the 720x480 format, and make them square to a true 320x240 size, not 320x213? Because every time I have tried a manual compression from DV to 320x240, the image is just not as sharp, and the file sizes are larger than the standard export to iPod 320-x240. And I have tried a variety of compressions. I have tried making a self-contained 720x480 DV NTSC movie into a 640x480 DV NTSC movie. Then, I have done a variety of manual compressions, m4v, mp4, mov, with Video, or Sorenson 3, or MPEG$ settings. (The h.264 is definitely the best in quality and size). But again, none of the manual compression schemes come up to the quality of the automatic export to iPod (320x240) I have also tried going directly to 320 x 240 DV NTSC from 720x480, and worked a variety of manual compressions, but to no avail. I am curious to know if others have had similar experiences. Chris Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- i was crying my ass off long before it was cool be to be emo... YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] question about shameless self promotion...
hmmm ... I never even realized that this was self promotion, I just figured that Paul was stating a fact, given that PJK productions is, indeed, worth a laugh and is work friendly ... I, personally try to eat less when I'm fed up, but I'm pretty overweight ... what the hell does that even mean ... I don't know ... I can't be held responsible for things I type ... Richard never filled up ... On 1/19/06, Michael Schaap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how about the shameless self promotion in this group? Is itappreciated / accepted? To be honest; I'm sometimes fed up with Pjk productions - It'sworth a laugh and work friendly- yawn- Kind Regards,Michael Schaapmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]site: http://www.macdocman.comfeed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/macdocmanYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Richard http://www.richardshow.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Video blogging platforms?
Hi Siobhan,Several video galleries with automatical thumbnail generation is on woomp.com. You can share your galleries with whom you want, but the visitors (still?) cannot add comments there. But it looks nice. Ah yes, and your videos must be FLV. Kind regards,MartinaOn 1/20/06, Siobhan Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any dedicated video blog platform, where you install it and upload videos and have them posted as a gallery , with automatic thumbnail genration, so the user can add comments?How is the best/easy way to achieve this? ( apart from using blogger) Thanks Yahoo! Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] experience with DIY steadicams?
Hey, Andy, this is s wiki-worthy!!! Dare I say, wiki-licious. URL: http://www.voxmedia.org/w/index.php/Videoblogging_Hardware :) XOX, Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Andy Carvin wrote: Hi everyone, I've been thinking about building my own camera stabilizer - a poor man's steadicam, so to speak - and I was wondering if anyone has tried it. I've found a few websites with instructions (or selling instructions), with varying levels of cost and complexity. Two of the more interesting ones are below. The $14 Steadycam http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/ The $14 Steadycam is very bare-bones, but the demo footage on the website is pretty good. The author of the page provides free instructions, and he'll even sell you a kit with all of the parts for $39 plus shipping. Here are two demos of it in action: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/soccer2.mov http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/girl3.mov The instructions and kit look very straightforward, but one practical concern I have is the use of standard plumbing supplies, including pipes and pipe heads. These parts give it somewhat of a T-shaped pipe-bomb look, which could be a major headache if you plan to travel with your steadicam on an airplane. Here's the other one: Hocast Stabilizers http://www.hocast.com/ Hocast seems more sophisticated, but more costly. They have three different models, ranging from a low-budget rig requiring $15 worth of supplies + $13 for the instructions, to a heavy-duty rig requiring $90 of supplies +$22 for the instructions. Their video demos include before/after footage showing how a shot improves by adding the stabilizer: http://www.hocast.com/Video/run.mov http://www.hocast.com/Video/stairs.mov (The clips are _very_ brief, though; frankly, I thought the $14 footage was better.) I've found a few other offers online, but these two are the most intriguing. Has anyone tried building their own steadicam from these sites or others? Have you been happy with the results? thanks, andy -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org (until Jan 31) As of February 1: andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.andycarvin.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] question about shameless self promotion...
That worth a laugh and work friendly is in his signature. Its automatically stuck in at the end of all his messages. While it is self-promotion, I wouldn't necessarily call it shameless, especially when his messages are not often on the topic of promoting himself, but rather add to the conversation happening here. -joshOn 1/20/06, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm ... I never even realized that this was self promotion, I just figured that Paul was stating a fact, given that PJK productions is, indeed, worth a laugh and is work friendly ... I, personally try to eat less when I'm fed up, but I'm pretty overweight ... what the hell does that even mean ... I don't know ... I can't be held responsible for things I type ... Richard never filled up ... On 1/19/06, Michael Schaap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how about the shameless self promotion in this group? Is itappreciated / accepted? To be honest; I'm sometimes fed up with Pjk productions - It'sworth a laugh and work friendly- yawn - Kind Regards,Michael Schaapmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]site: http://www.macdocman.comfeed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/macdocmanYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Tags
Hey all: I would love someone to hold forth on tags. I understand how tags work on mefeedia, but what about imbedding tags into the intro text of our posts? Of the vlogs I frequent it doesn't seem anyone is using them. That is, I don't see them on people's sites. Should we be tagging our posts? If so, how? Rob Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] question about shameless self promotion...
Hi all,I don't understand this threadPaul is now one of the most famous "french" vloggerBecause he makes great efforts to help, to communicate ( in all languages), to share, to participate, to . to be an international vloggerPlease spread loveLoiezLe 20 janv. 06 à 23:22, Joshua Kinberg a écrit : That "worth a laugh and work friendly" is in his signature. Its automatically stuck in at the end of all his messages. While it is self-promotion, I wouldn't necessarily call it shameless, especially when his messages are not often on the topic of promoting himself, but rather add to the conversation happening here. -joshOn 1/20/06, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm ... I never even realized that this was self promotion, I just figured that Paul was stating a fact, given that PJK productions is, indeed, "worth a laugh and is work friendly" ... I, personally try to eat less when I'm fed up, but I'm pretty overweight ... what the hell does that even mean ... I don't know ... I can't be held responsible for things I type ... Richard never filled up ... On 1/19/06, Michael Schaap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how about the shameless self promotion in this group? Is itappreciated / accepted? To be honest; I'm sometimes fed up with Pjk productions - "It'sworth a laugh and work friendly" - yawn - Kind Regards,Michael Schaapmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]site: http://www.macdocman.comfeed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/macdocmanYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.