RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Certainly using iTunes could be a work-around until Apple hopefully fixes this. Let's just hope the new release of iTunes in October doesn't cause all sorts of accessibility problems. I really like having my iPhone and it's great that Apple has done what they have done, but let's not forget that the iCloud website has been and still is more or less inaccessible and it's been around for a year. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well. However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If the only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use than unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same thing using iTunes. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi, Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't going to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on Wednesday, so for those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me being one of them, there's a chance we won't see improvements until the store changes are completely rolled out. Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable since the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS itself. Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and the App Store isn't inaccessible. I update apps in iOS6 daily. I think it is true to say that the information conveyed by VoiceOver could be more helpful. First, the behaviour of the App Store has changed. As has already been said in this thread, you no longer need to enter your password when you update. You do, however, contrary to some speculation in blogs a while ago, still have to enter your password when you install a free app. When you update an app, you are no longer taken out of the App Store and placed on the page the app is installed on. Instead, you simply stay in the App Store, right where you are. When you double tap the update button, I can see nothing that gives you confirmation that the app update has begun downloading. However, if you go to your home screen right away, you will be able to see that it in fact has, because you can see the percentage of the download and install changing. So in no way do I think this should be seen as a reason not to update. yes, it would be nice if the update button changed to an updating, or downloading, button after it is pressed, but it isn't inaccessible at all. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:44 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hello Jonathan, since many things have already been said and speculated on, I would say that if you have information which helps to clear things up, go right ahead. I'll let you be the judge of how much you can say. Hopefully people will read this thread in its entirety before commenting. Lastly, to everyone, I still recommend you read all about the new changes before you upgrade. The reason is because once you do, you can't go back, and if you really don't like something, then you will be forced to deal with it sooner than later. As it is, you will have to move forward at some point, but maybe by not jumping the gun so quickly, you won't be as surprised. Cheers. -- Raul A. Gallegos There's a problem in the cockpit. The cockpit, what is it? It's the little room in the front where the pilot sits but that's not important right now. - Airplane Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Face book: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 9/16/2012 6:58 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be under NDA. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: kliph...@gmail.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or reliability issues? Thanks, Jim On
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
my understanding was that you were not required to enter your password on free of charge app purchases, but, still had to for chargeable ones. On 16 Sep 2012, at 22:53, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote: It's accessible, but not as much as on ios5, your not able to update apps with out sited help. The way I have worked around this, is I update them in iTunes, and then sink my phone. The other thing is, when you attempt to install an app, it doesn't ask you for your password to your apple ID, this is a little shaky to me, maybe they will correct it by Wednesday. On Sep 16, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote: There was an article on apple vis that stated that the app store is inaccessible. Can anyone using the beta version confirm this? I'm hesitant to upgrade is this is the case. Thanks. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in iMessage. There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not disturb feature. That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday. On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote: 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
I've always had to put full credentials on all, even free purchases. - Original Message - From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:29 AM Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over my understanding was that you were not required to enter your password on free of charge app purchases, but, still had to for chargeable ones. On 16 Sep 2012, at 22:53, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote: It's accessible, but not as much as on ios5, your not able to update apps with out sited help. The way I have worked around this, is I update them in iTunes, and then sink my phone. The other thing is, when you attempt to install an app, it doesn't ask you for your password to your apple ID, this is a little shaky to me, maybe they will correct it by Wednesday. On Sep 16, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote: There was an article on apple vis that stated that the app store is inaccessible. Can anyone using the beta version confirm this? I'm hesitant to upgrade is this is the case. Thanks. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in iMessage. There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not disturb feature. That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday. On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote: 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: zelo
Hi, I found no such setting, and for sure this gesture doesn't work for me. I found one called - Talk button up - whose purpose puzzled me, a toggle, but didn't want to toggle until I knew what it did. The Help proved not to be that helpful either. Sigh! R! - Original Message - From: Garth Humphreys ghu...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 5:54 AM Subject: Re: zelo Hi Jeff Just have a look in the settings and you will find one something about the remote control, just enable this and you'll be able to use the two finger double tap to start broadcasting and the same gesture to stop. Garth www.iblindtech.com/ Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe to the iBlindTech Democast. Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or @iBlindTech for podcast info. Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com On 17/09/2012, at 1:08 PM, jeffry miller fafa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I was wondering does anyone know of a setting you can change in the latest zello that will allow you to tap the talk button and talk without holding the screen, and when finished you can then tap it again, to release it? -- Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Was not at all legit and if anyone downloaded this supposed GM copy, there may be functionality broken or other issues. On Sep 16, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: I think there was a posting on Lifehacker or Gizmodo last week outlining how you could already grab iOS 6 instead of having to wait till the 19th. I believe it had to do with visiting a website and downloading this or that file and syncing, etc. I can't recall if they stated whether or not it was a legitimate means of upgrading or not since I didn't bother reading it all the way through since I'm happy to wait the few extra days, but just pointing it out in case there are any feathers to be ruffled with the NDA and whatnot. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be under NDA. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: kliph...@gmail.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or reliability issues? Thanks, Jim On 9/16/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in iMessage. There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not disturb feature. That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday. On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote: 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: braille reference, was Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone
Richard, Now that is a pretty handy app and for a $1 I would get a lot of good information for so little. :) I might just have to grab that. :) THanks Scott On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, Amy and others, If you want a quick, easy way to look up braille codes you can't remember, there is an app, made by someone I know, called Braille Reference, and is $0.99 in the app store. Under the computer braille section, if you select to search by name, it will show you an alphabetical list of contractions. The At sign is the fourth one in the list. He says dots 7 and 4, which is correct. However, you can get this if you are using contracted braille by doing space bar plus u for upper case and then just a dot 4. He plans an update with visual images for the braille cells in the near future and there are a couple of search things he needs to clean up, but it is a handy tool for a lot of my braille students. HTH, Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone David, Do you tend to use contracted more than uncontracted Braille? Also I think I'm going to get one of those booklets that will help me remember how to make an at @ symbol etc. I never used computer Braille. In fact until a year ago or so I had not used Braille since I was in school which was a good while ago. :) I'm really looking to use my RefreshaBraille for more than just reading. :) On Sep 16, 2012, at 3:42 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: All braille displays work similarly with the iPhone. It is the iOS software which controls everything. The braille display is for viewing and the keyboard is for typing. Controls are more basic than with a braille note taker. I would be cautious about getting the HumanWare or vario displays. Connections can be more problematic do to the nature of the bluetooth driver stacks and controls in the HumanWare products. I have an Alva BC640 and a RefreshaBraille. Both work well with my iPhone. That said, I prefer the Refreshabraille because I can turn it on and off whilst my iPhone is unlocked and it connects and disconnects without difficulties. My Alva, on the other hand, requires that I lock my iPhone before I turn the Alva on. After the display is on, I unlock my iPhone and the Alva automatically connects. However, when I write in 8 dot computer braille, the Alva is easier because all 8 dots are in a row (40 cells gives more room for the keyboard). On the Refreshabraille, dots 7 and 8 are next to the spacebar, so harder to press dot 7 for capitalisation. National Braille Press, NBP, in the US has a braille brochure with the computer braille code. They also use to sell a book training on computer braille. In computer braille, the letters are the same, numbers are dropped to the lower part of the 6 dot cell (1 is dot 2, 2 is dots 2 3, 3 is dots 2 5, Etc.), and there are unique symbols for each punctuation mark. Upper-case letters are the same as lower-case letters with dot 7 added. I write computer braille at the same speed that I write contracted braille. For large files, I find my iPhone 4 does better in 8 dot mode rather than contracted braille mode. Also, in contracted braille mode, iOS has a half second buffer. If you stop writing for half a second, whatever is in the buffer is translated and written to the field. Braille entry works whenever the keyboard is activated. Also, almost everything VO speaks is simultaneously displayed in braille. I regularly take notes in braille during meetings with speech muted. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 17/09/2012, at 7:05, Amy Harris aharr...@gmail.com wrote: Sharonda, thanks for the clarification, and thanks for the Essys 14 Kawal. I knew that if I asked here I could get REAL help. You know, useful help. *GRIN* I know that some braille displays are notetakers in and of themselves. That's not really what I need. I need something more along the lines of being able to turn off VoiceOver on my iDevice yet still use it through braille while in a meeting. Does that eliminate any of these devices? I'd also love a display that worked with iPhone apps like Pages, Messages, Notes, Mail, Reminders, my grocery list app, and so on. Does such a thing even exist, or does it all have to be done through the particular braille display's software? Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Has anyone who has tested Ios 6 written to Apple a11y and complained to them about the app store issues? It sounds like they should know about at least some of the issues. 17 sep 2012 kl. 07:33 skrev James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com: If someone wants to take issue with what you are doing in posting that information, they need to look at the intent. It is not being put out there to give someone some marketable advantage nor is it the type of information that would be used that way. The risk that you are taking, since there unfortunately is one, is much appreciated. Personally I don't know that I understand why there is NDA after the thing has been announced and publicly talked about anyway. The fact that they are going to have the event a week before they choose to officially release it is their choice. So technically there is no NDA over what they said, but if they didn't say it then there is? My personal opinion is that doesn't make a lot of logical sense to me. On 9/16/12, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. Thank you to those of you speaking in support of what we're doing. I sincerely hope that Apple will resolve the issues in the App Store before Wednesday, and if they do, believe me, we will commend them on this. It's a tough line to walk with NDA's and things of that sort, but with no real easy way to downgrade to a previous iOS version, we feel it's very important to get the message out so that people are aware of the issues before they start getting into something they may not like. We will, of course, keep you updated as changes are made. I can tell you that the App Store has been tweeked several times last week, and that they are slowly getting better than they were. Take care, Scott On 9/17/12, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: I think Applevis should be congratulated for the way it is documenting and explaining this issue. My own personal usage patterns meant that until I read the post and tried to duplicate the findings, I hadn't fully appreciated the extent of the breakage. So well done. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of AnonyMouse Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 2:45 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there were other issues. So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are blowing smoke. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville Zello: =AnonyMouse= -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that they did. If they were going to go as far as they did, they could at leastmention the areas they were referring to. Let's hope they were blowing smoke and the others are right that there are not other major issues. A few have said there are not. Jim On 9/16/12, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well. However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If the only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use than unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same thing using iTunes. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi, Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't going to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on Wednesday, so for those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me being one of them, there's a chance we won't see improvements until the store changes are completely rolled out. Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable since the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS itself. Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it.
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
And I can confirm the fact that APple can make backend changes without releasing a new app. THis is also true with iTunes and the Mac App store (obviously for the Mac). I have seen issues in the app that was corrected without a new version being downloaded which leads me to believe there is some html code that can be changed. So, I suspect these types of fixes are much easier than if it required changes to the code of the app. On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Jonnathon and all, I'm not sure who follows appleVis and reads the comments, but as I stated there, the changes to any stores are dynamic, meaning apple can make changes to them without having to release a completely new build of iOS. So if any changes are going to be made, we'll see them without having to download another version of the OS. Also, the stores aren't supposed to be rolled out completely until the 19th, so it's quite possible they're going to make a change within the next few days before the release goes public. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6 Yup, I can confirm this. I tend to do very specific searches so hadn't seen the full implications of this before. So I apologise for my previous post which didn't really convey the enormity of this. Updating apps work as I described, but this is very serious. Let's hope something can be done without actually updating the OS. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Head Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 2:16 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6 Hi all, Not sure if anyone else put this up but I saw someone put it up on twitter. Originally found on the applevis website, it's an article explaining that a few days before ios 6 is released, the app store is inaccessible in most areas. Article below: A Warning to VoiceOver Users Ahead of the Release of iOS 6 article region start Submitted by David on 16 September 2012 Member of the AppleVis Editorial Team As you should be aware, our stated policy is to allow no postings on this site which would be a breach of Apple's Non Disclosure Agreement. Essentially, this Agreement places legal restrictions on what can be publicly revealed about beta versions of Apple software. Posting specific and detailed information about iOS 6 before it is released to the public on 19 September would in most cases be a breach of this Agreement, and could place you at risk of legal action by Apple. However, we have been alerted to a significant accessibility issue that is likely to be present in iOS 6, and we believe that with the public release just a few days away, we would be failing the community if we did not issue a warning. There are likely to be some who will condemn our decision. All that we can say is that it is not something we have done lightly and without much discussion. Here is the problem as we understand it: At the time of writing, the App Store app is virtually unusable with VoiceOver on the version of iOS 6 that was released to developers last week. This release is commonly referred to as the Gold Master, and is effectively the final version. This problem has been reported and replicated by several iPhone users. We are unable to confirm whether the same problem exists on the iPad. The App Store app has been significantly rewritten for iOS 6, with changes made to the way that content is displayed and navigated. There are 5 tabs in the app: Featured Top Charts Genius Search Updates Of these, only the Updates tab appears to be fully accessible with VoiceOver. Results on the Search tab are no longer displayed as a vertical list. Instead, each app is displayed on its own page. When not using VoiceOver, you flick to the left or right to navigate through the search results. This allows for more information about each app to be shown. We assume that it is also considered to be more visually appealing and engaging. When using VoiceOver, only the first search result is easily accessible. If you swipe right through the first search result, VoiceOver will read subsequent results in much the same way that it always has. However, visually, the screen is still displaying the first result, and double-tapping on the name of subsequent apps will achieve nothing. Each page in the search results indicates what page it is - 1 of 250 for example. However, this is only recognized by VoiceOver on the first page if you tap directly on it or swipe left from the bottom bar of tab buttons. Although this element might seem similar to the one present on your
Re: iHeart Radio:
Don: Currently I know no way of addressing the issue. My understanding is that there are 2 things going on here. 1. There are advertisements scrolling on the screen 2. They're making suggestions of stations which you may like to listen to. Yes, I'd agree that this is a real pain in the posterior as all of the Clear Channel stations as well as most of the Cumulus Stations are now only accessible with it. - Original Message - From: Don Moore don.moor...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 20:38 Subject: iHeart Radio: Have any of you figured out how to get iHeart radio to stop with the annoying bounce? Considering it's the only way I can catch some of the stations I want to listen to, it would be nice to be able to do the adjustments without the cursor bouncing around all over the place or whatever is going on there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A Tip for A T T Wireless Customers Who Are Thinking About Upgrading to iPhone 5
I preordered my iPhone 5 last night, the 32 gb, and it will ship in 2 to 3 weeks. - Original Message - ,f3 ,raul ,a4 ,gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com ,to3 viphone@googlegroups.com, Date: Sunday, Sep 16, 2012 07:23:48 PM Subject: Re: A Tip for A T T Wireless Customers Who Are Thinking About Upgrading to iPhone 5 One other thing to consider is that the 16 gb models will sell out first since they tend to be the more popular ones. At least this was the case with the 4S when I was looking at getting it in October last year. So, I'd be curious to see if the same trend happens with the 5 in that the 64 gb one is less of a wait than the 32 or 16 gb. — Raul A. Gallegos There's a problem in the cockpit. The cockpit, what is it? It's the little room in the front where the pilot sits but that's not important right now. - Airplane @ ,home ,page3 http://raulgallegos.com @ ,twitt]3 https://twitter.com/rau47 @ ,facebook3 http://facebook.com/rau47 On 9/14/2012 11:45 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote: For what it's worth, I've seen several references on Twitter tonight that Apple sold out of the pre-orders for next week's phones within 60 minutes. I was able to pre-order mine over the phone with Apple several hours ago, and it should be sent out within 2-3 weeks. Though the wait is a little long, at least I'll be garanteed an iPhone 5, unlike the many people I have a feeling who will show up the day it is in stores and have to go back and forth to/from the store, or from store to store, in order to find one in stock. It will be hard to wait, but at least I can put iOS 6 on my iPhone 4 next week and start playing with things a little. Regards, Wayne On 9/14/12, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: It's funny because I don't know of anyone who is underwhealmed by the iPhone 5. In fact, I think there was more negative reaction to the 4 and 4S among the people I know than the 5. I think that we really sometimes miss the point of these releases because we naturally look at the accessibility features over anything else. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 @ @@ ,email1 j...@macfortheblind.com @ @@ ,website1 http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:48 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, @ I went into the A T T Wireless store a few hours ago to see if I am eligible for an upgrade. Somehow I knew I wouldn't be but I just wanted to confirm (Smile). Not that it matters as I have decided to purchase iPhone 5. @ I was amazed at the fact that the store was jam-packed with customers. While I no longer frequent the A T T Wireless or Verizon Wireless stores as much as I used to, I visit enough to have been truly surprised. There was a waiting list to enter the store. @ I asked the receptionist why the store was so busy and she said it was because of all the people who are pre-ordering iPhone 5. @ It would appear that not everyone was underwhelmed by Apple's keynote presentation. @ After leaving the store, I decided to go over to the Verizon Wireless store and, it too, was jam-packed with people preordering. @ All I can say is that there appears to be something magical about the Apple-effect, as I have come to think of it. @ By the way, I decided not to wait at the A T T wireless store. The receptionist reminded me that I can check to see if I am eligible for an upgrade by doing the following from my iPhone: @ 1. Open the Phone App. @ 2. Switch to the Dial Pad. @ 3. Dial *639# @ 4. Tap the Call button. By the way, 6 3 9 spells the word NEW. You will receive a text message stating your eligibility status. @ Mark @ — You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. @ @ — You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. — You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
Marc, Before folks go running off on a tangent about accessibility, Steve Jobs, and so forth I think it is important to point out: 1. Steve Jobs, although a great man, was not the exclusive determining factor for Voiceover in Apple's products. 2. Just because Steve has passed on does not mean Apple will abandon accessibility. 3. There has been articles posted by the U.S. Department of Treasury (a year or two ago) that indicates there are over 100,000 blind/visually impaired users of iPhones. Note iPhones and the article did not mention iPads etc. 4. Apple has to balance accessibility against all the other projects that are ongoing. There are resources dedicated to many projects and some projects get more resources than others. Fact is accessibility may not get the same level of resources as other projects; however, you have to understand it is always a challenge trying to be sure resources are managed in such a way to ensure overall mission/goals/objectives are addressed without impacting the largest user community. I may not be explaining that as well as I could, but the idea is you put the resources on whatever will maximize profits and make no mistake that Apple is about making money. Oh and I'm all for Apple making money and buckets of it. MOre money means more resources and more resources means more likelihood accessibility gets attention. 5. Apple is the only mainstream company to my knowledge that has invested so heavily into accessibility. 6. A lot of developers have committed to making their apps accessible, so accessibility has really gained such a considerable amount of attention that there is support beyond even this community. You can bet if Apple ever decided to drop accessibility, we would have a good deal of support. I'm not lecturing you here Marc, but merely pointing out (because this comes up on the list from time to time) that APple has committed to accessibility and like any other aspect of software things get broken and hopefully fixed. I think a lot of the issues we all have experienced from time to time and still do in some cases is not being ignored. When you consider the size and scope of a project such as iOS itself, you can imagine the number of people working on such a project. Add to that the layers of management and development protocols etc… I'm not surprised that it takes a while to address problems. On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Marc Rocheleau marcrochelea...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, I sincerely hope that app developers who use VoiceOver have been reporting these problems to Apple's accessibility team. This is -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
Shawn, Why do you have to connect your phone to iTune to instal an app? I never do that. I just click on install and enter my password. Is there a setting that you might be able to change so you don't need to connect to iTunes? Sandy From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6 Hi. I might also wait for others to report if the App Store issue is fixed. I hate the fact that if I want to install an app I have to connect my iPhone to Itunes. It's a load of crap in my opinion. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book On 2012-09-16, at 11:19 PM, viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A Tip for A T T Wireless Customers Who Are Thinking AboutUpgrading to iPhone 5
The Apple Stroe App came online exactally at 3AM EST, which makes sense since Apple is on PST. I have been told some folks have gottennotification from Apple that their delivery dates have been moved up from a few weeks to the original 21st of September. Frank Ventura Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.commailto:frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com Voicemail: 781 492-4262 Imessage: frankmvent...@mac.commailto:frankmvent...@mac.com *Sent from my Mac Book Air* On Sep 16, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Vicky Collins v-coll...@sbcglobal.netmailto:v-coll...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I tried using the Apple Store app at midnight on Friday morning eastern time, and it wasn't quite ready for taking orders for the iPhone 5 at that time. Then, when I tried about quarter till six on Friday morning, I was indeed given the two week time frame. And, well, grin, as I mentioned on another list, seeing as this meant I wasn't going to be able to get the phone delivered on the first day folks could receive them, I promptly put the money I had gotten out of my savings account back in there and decided to wait a bit longer. Out of curiosity, when I checked again Friday night, I was given a two to three week time for the phone to be shipped, and that is the same time frame I'm being given as I check now on this Sunday evening. Now, when I pre-ordered the iPhone 4S last year, I was able to do so on the Friday evening after I got home from work, and get it delivered on that first available day. I recall trying to order it that morning before I went to work, but I was kind of rushing and just wasn't quite doing everything correctly. - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.commailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:45:54 -0500 Subject: Re: A Tip for A T T Wireless Customers Who Are Thinking AboutUpgrading to iPhone 5 For what it's worth, I've seen several references on Twitter tonight that Apple sold out of the pre-orders for next week's phones within 60 minutes. I was able to pre-order mine over the phone with Apple several hours ago, and it should be sent out within 2-3 weeks. Though the wait is a little long, at least I'll be garanteed an iPhone 5, unlike the many people I have a feeling who will show up the day it is in stores and have to go back and forth to/from the store, or from store to store, in order to find one in stock. It will be hard to wait, but at least I can put iOS 6 on my iPhone 4 next week and start playing with things a little. Regards, Wayne On 9/14/12, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.commailto:jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: It's funny because I don't know of anyone who is underwhealmed by the iPhone 5. In fact, I think there was more negative reaction to the 4 and 4S among the people I know than the 5. I think that we really sometimes miss the point of these releases because we naturally look at the accessibility features over anything else. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.commailto:j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:48 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edumailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, I went into the A T T Wireless store a few hours ago to see if I am eligible for an upgrade. Somehow I knew I wouldn't be but I just wanted to confirm (Smile). Not that it matters as I have decided to purchase iPhone 5. I was amazed at the fact that the store was jam-packed with customers. While I no longer frequent the A T T Wireless or Verizon Wireless stores as much as I used to, I visit enough to have been truly surprised. There was a waiting list to enter the store. I asked the receptionist why the store was so busy and she said it was because of all the people who are pre-ordering iPhone 5. It would appear that not everyone was underwhelmed by Apple's keynote presentation. After leaving the store, I decided to go over to the Verizon Wireless store and, it too, was jam-packed with people preordering. All I can say is that there appears to be something magical about the Apple-effect, as I have come to think of it. By the way, I decided not to wait at the A T T wireless store. The receptionist reminded me that I can check to see if I am eligible for an upgrade by doing the following from my iPhone: 1. Open the Phone App. 2. Switch to the Dial Pad. 3. Dial *639# 4. Tap the Call button. By the way, 6 3 9 spells the word NEW. You will receive a text message stating your eligibility status. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
All, I have to put in my password for all app purchases unless I just purchased one and was still logged in. Paul -Original Message- From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over my understanding was that you were not required to enter your password on free of charge app purchases, but, still had to for chargeable ones. On 16 Sep 2012, at 22:53, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote: It's accessible, but not as much as on ios5, your not able to update apps with out sited help. The way I have worked around this, is I update them in iTunes, and then sink my phone. The other thing is, when you attempt to install an app, it doesn't ask you for your password to your apple ID, this is a little shaky to me, maybe they will correct it by Wednesday. On Sep 16, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote: There was an article on apple vis that stated that the app store is inaccessible. Can anyone using the beta version confirm this? I'm hesitant to upgrade is this is the case. Thanks. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in iMessage. There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not disturb feature. That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday. On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote: 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Zello
definitely does thank you bverry much -- Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: zelo
ok thanks i'll look. -- Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Iphone 5 cases
Does anyone know if Otterbox has a case for the iPhone 5? - Original Message - ,f3 ,frank ,v5tura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com ,to3 viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com, Date: Sunday, Sep 16, 2012 12:07:44 PM Subject: Iphone 5 cases Hi all I was wondering if anyone has seen any IPhone 5 cases on the market? Not looking to go cheapo but rather quality. Definitely something with a belt clip. Don't want to go leather this time, maybe something more high tech like carbon fibre. Any suggestions? Frank — You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Zello
One small correction Annomimouse, the ability to use this feature can be toggle on or off under settings. In the most recent update to Zello many users found the setting had been turned off and it needed to be re-enabled for the two finger double tap to be used again. This is done by turning on the Remote Control setting in Zello. Garth www.iblindtech.com/ Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe to the iBlindTech Democast. Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or @iBlindTech for podcast info. Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com On 17/09/2012, at 1:56 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Jeff, On Zello this is called the hands free feature. To use the hands free feature. All you need to do is the following. Use two fingers and double tap on the screen. You will now be in the hands free mode. Start speaking without having to leave your fingers on the screen. When finished. Just use your two fingers double tap to send the hands free mode. So there are no settings that you need to turn on to use this feature. Hope that helps! Regards, .AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville Zello: =AnonyMouse= -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeffry miller Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: zelo Hello, I was wondering does anyone know of a setting you can change in the latest zello that will allow you to tap the talk button and talk without holding the screen, and when finished you can then tap it again, to release it? -- Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Sluggish iPhone voice over
Hello all, Has anyone noticed in the last two days that voice over has become much more sluggish? Is this because of the new version coming this week? I an going to turn off my phone again to see is it helps, but does anybody have any further thoughts on what I can do? It happens in email and focus for Facebook, so is makes me think it might not be VO at all. Any thoughts welcome. Thanks. Just saw the problem again reading post in Fleksy. Seems to be leaving out words and then cutting in again with a sharp sort of voice as if someone has pushed a button for her to talk in the middle of a word. Now not so sure of my initial thought. Thanks for any help. Up to now, VO has never had a problem. Reggie and Brooks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Zello
thanks garth and if you turn the talk up button on then it will beep when you are finished talking and double tap with the two fingers. -- Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Zello
Yep, exactly. Garth www.iblindtech.com/ Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe to the iBlindTech Democast. Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or @iBlindTech for podcast info. Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com On 17/09/2012, at 10:23 PM, jeffry miller fafa...@gmail.com wrote: thanks garth and if you turn the talk up button on then it will beep when you are finished talking and double tap with the two fingers. -- Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Sluggish iPhone voice over
Hi Reggie If you are finding that VO is just generally sluggish in various parts of your phone then this is not related in any way to the up coming iOS release. VO is not like Siri in that it doesn't need to check in with apple servers to provide feedback. I would recommend that you clear out your app switcher and then restart your phone by holding down the lock and home buttons for 10 seconds. Garth www.iblindtech.com/ Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe to the iBlindTech Democast. Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or @iBlindTech for podcast info. Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com On 17/09/2012, at 10:19 PM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, Has anyone noticed in the last two days that voice over has become much more sluggish? Is this because of the new version coming this week? I an going to turn off my phone again to see is it helps, but does anybody have any further thoughts on what I can do? It happens in email and focus for Facebook, so is makes me think it might not be VO at all. Any thoughts welcome. Thanks. Just saw the problem again reading post in Fleksy. Seems to be leaving out words and then cutting in again with a sharp sort of voice as if someone has pushed a button for her to talk in the middle of a word. Now not so sure of my initial thought. Thanks for any help. Up to now, VO has never had a problem. Reggie and Brooks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless
That is strange since I talked to two different att customer service reps and was told by both of them that there would be no restrictions or extra charges using face time over 3g as long as your data plan covered the usage. I called back twice just to make sure I got the same story before preordering the new IPhone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless Grant, I do; however, ATT also plans to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from even using the Face TIme service over 3G. In fact I guess anyone without a shared data plan will be prevented from using Face TIme. Verizon Wireless and Sprint do not plan to do this and I'm hoping ATT will back down as well. As aggravated as I have been of late with some of the nonsense of ATT (yes many carriers engage in the same behavior) it just seems that there has been some things going on that really bother me. I had an ATT customer service employee tell me that APple dictates how soon people can upgrade and when. That is simply false and for anyone at ATT to say this is lying. Apple has nothing to do with the upgrades and would love for you to buy another phone. So, yeah I am a little sensitive about what they are up to. On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. You should definitely take my question with a grain of sault. I'm not an ATT customer, in fact I live in Canada. This was just something I came across on the internet and was curious to find out whether it's true. Cheers, Grant On 9/16/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Grant, I do not know the answer; however, I would be completely irate if I found that they did not throttle LTE customers. In fact I'm going to check into this and ATT had better hope they throttle LTE customers as they would those of us on 3G. If not I suggest all clear the decks. On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, I heard that on LTE, ATT doesn't throttle their unlimited customers in the same way. Do you know if that's true or am I mistaken? Cheers, Grant On 9/15/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, I upgraded to the 4S last year and still retained my unlimited data plan. However, unlimited is really a joke because the fact is once you exceed 3Gb, ATT throttles your speed to the point that it is completely unreasonable. Although not technically a breech of contract, it does open the doors to arbitration and a good chance you can be freed from the contract. If ATT pulls the crap about not allowing FaceTime over the 3G network unless you have a shared data plan, I will be on the horn to the FCC and raise hell. In fact I'm still surprised they are able to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from having tethering. As I understand Verizon Wireless got pinged for this not long ago. On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T T Wireless. In fact, I preordered my iPhone 4. However, last year, at the release of iPhone 4 S, I began the A T T Wireless online preorder process and, thank God, decided to cancel the order before its completion. I don't remember the particulars but something in the agreement that one needed to confirm by placing a checkmark in a box, didn't sound quite right. As it turned out, my refusal to agree to their terms during the online preorder process was a wise decision. Like many of us who continue to enjoy the unlimited data plan that A T T Wireless no longer offers, agreeing to last year's online iPhone 4 S preorder terms automatically updated the data plan to one that did not include unlimited data. Now I cannot speak to preordering from Apple as I have never done so but I can tell you that A T T Wireless would love to remove all of those remaining on the unlimited data plan and will do darn near anything to accomplish this including lacing there agreement with so much legalese that one will simply agree without reading it. In short, when I purchase my iPhone 5, just like last year, I will go into an A T T Wireless corporate store, remove my own SIM card from my current device, and place it in the new device to insure that nothing funky happens with my data plan. Good Luck To All, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless
Interesting because I was told differently by two other reps. So, I guess we will not know until iOS 6 is out and folks try it. I think that is one way to really answer such questions since the reps are obviously not informed, which for the record may not even be their fault. Lots of info to communicate and not all organizations are always efficient in getting the word to the right people. On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:56 AM, blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: That is strange since I talked to two different att customer service reps and was told by both of them that there would be no restrictions or extra charges using face time over 3g as long as your data plan covered the usage. I called back twice just to make sure I got the same story before preordering the new IPhone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless Grant, I do; however, ATT also plans to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from even using the Face TIme service over 3G. In fact I guess anyone without a shared data plan will be prevented from using Face TIme. Verizon Wireless and Sprint do not plan to do this and I'm hoping ATT will back down as well. As aggravated as I have been of late with some of the nonsense of ATT (yes many carriers engage in the same behavior) it just seems that there has been some things going on that really bother me. I had an ATT customer service employee tell me that APple dictates how soon people can upgrade and when. That is simply false and for anyone at ATT to say this is lying. Apple has nothing to do with the upgrades and would love for you to buy another phone. So, yeah I am a little sensitive about what they are up to. On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. You should definitely take my question with a grain of sault. I'm not an ATT customer, in fact I live in Canada. This was just something I came across on the internet and was curious to find out whether it's true. Cheers, Grant On 9/16/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Grant, I do not know the answer; however, I would be completely irate if I found that they did not throttle LTE customers. In fact I'm going to check into this and ATT had better hope they throttle LTE customers as they would those of us on 3G. If not I suggest all clear the decks. On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, I heard that on LTE, ATT doesn't throttle their unlimited customers in the same way. Do you know if that's true or am I mistaken? Cheers, Grant On 9/15/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, I upgraded to the 4S last year and still retained my unlimited data plan. However, unlimited is really a joke because the fact is once you exceed 3Gb, ATT throttles your speed to the point that it is completely unreasonable. Although not technically a breech of contract, it does open the doors to arbitration and a good chance you can be freed from the contract. If ATT pulls the crap about not allowing FaceTime over the 3G network unless you have a shared data plan, I will be on the horn to the FCC and raise hell. In fact I'm still surprised they are able to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from having tethering. As I understand Verizon Wireless got pinged for this not long ago. On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T T Wireless. In fact, I preordered my iPhone 4. However, last year, at the release of iPhone 4 S, I began the A T T Wireless online preorder process and, thank God, decided to cancel the order before its completion. I don't remember the particulars but something in the agreement that one needed to confirm by placing a checkmark in a box, didn't sound quite right. As it turned out, my refusal to agree to their terms during the online preorder process was a wise decision. Like many of us who continue to enjoy the unlimited data plan that A T T Wireless no longer offers, agreeing to last year's online iPhone 4 S preorder terms automatically updated the data plan to one that did not include unlimited data. Now I cannot speak to preordering from Apple as I have never done so but I can tell you that A T T Wireless would love to remove all of those remaining on the unlimited data plan and will do darn near anything to accomplish this including lacing there agreement with so much legalese that one will simply agree without reading it. In short, when I purchase my iPhone 5, just like last year, I will go into an A T T Wireless corporate store, remove my own SIM card from my current
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
He doesn't have to at the moment; I assume he's talking about the app store in iOs6 as per the discussion in this thread. Has anyone who is running this noticed any improvements? As others have said this is something that can be fixed without pushing out another update, but if Apple do intend to fix this, surely they would have done so or will do so very soon since we're looking at just over 24 hours before it goes live. Cheers, Ben. On 9/17/12, Sandy Finley finleykn...@gmail.com wrote: Shawn, Why do you have to connect your phone to iTune to instal an app? I never do that. I just click on install and enter my password. Is there a setting that you might be able to change so you don't need to connect to iTunes? Sandy From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6 Hi. I might also wait for others to report if the App Store issue is fixed. I hate the fact that if I want to install an app I have to connect my iPhone to Itunes. It's a load of crap in my opinion. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book On 2012-09-16, at 11:19 PM, viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Sluggish iPhone voice over
Garth: Thank you. I did exactly that. So far it has worked. If it bogs down again, are there any other thoughts about what I can do? Wondering why after 6 months of VO behaving wonderfully it is just now acting up? Guess that is an Apple question, right? Thanks again. Reggie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Garth Humphreys Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sluggish iPhone voice over Hi Reggie If you are finding that VO is just generally sluggish in various parts of your phone then this is not related in any way to the up coming iOS release. VO is not like Siri in that it doesn't need to check in with apple servers to provide feedback. I would recommend that you clear out your app switcher and then restart your phone by holding down the lock and home buttons for 10 seconds. Garth www.iblindtech.com/ Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe to the iBlindTech Democast. Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or @iBlindTech for podcast info. Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com On 17/09/2012, at 10:19 PM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, Has anyone noticed in the last two days that voice over has become much more sluggish? Is this because of the new version coming this week? I an going to turn off my phone again to see is it helps, but does anybody have any further thoughts on what I can do? It happens in email and focus for Facebook, so is makes me think it might not be VO at all. Any thoughts welcome. Thanks. Just saw the problem again reading post in Fleksy. Seems to be leaving out words and then cutting in again with a sharp sort of voice as if someone has pushed a button for her to talk in the middle of a word. Now not so sure of my initial thought. Thanks for any help. Up to now, VO has never had a problem. Reggie and Brooks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Question about 5th generation Ipod touch
I'm thinking about upgrading from my 4th generation Ipod touch to the 5th generation ipod touch. Will I be able to turn on voiceover right out of the box or will I have to use Itunes? Can I still use my Apple usb charger to charge it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch
If they stick with past behavior, triple click the home button and it should come up speaking. The charger, if it is just the USB charger should work fine. It should come with the new cable, so just plug the USB end of the cable into the charger. Of course, nobody will know for sure about the triple click home until they start shipping. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch I'm thinking about upgrading from my 4th generation Ipod touch to the 5th generation ipod touch. Will I be able to turn on voiceover right out of the box or will I have to use Itunes? Can I still use my Apple usb charger to charge it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Boice speed for individual languages?
Is there a way to make the English voice a bit slower than the default 40% I have in Spanish on my IPhone? Would like when change to English to speak a bit slowr. Can this be done with Ios 5.5.1? Thanks in advance for ideas. Enviado desde mi iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
Hey Scott, I totally understand what you mean. Like I said, I'm trying not to jump the gun or anything -- it's more a paranoia of mine than a valid fear. I fully acknowledge that Apple has too much money to lose if they drop accessibility from their products, especially with the communities that have been created online (such as this one) because of it. I think it's more a case of it feeling too good to be true still. No other mainstream companies provide this level of support for the blind/visually-impaired, imo, and sometimes it feels like the other shoe should be dropping at any second. I know Apple does it for money but I don't really care as long as I am getting value for my money. There's a reason I'm switching to an iMac in the coming months, after all. :) -Marc On 9/17/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Marc, Before folks go running off on a tangent about accessibility, Steve Jobs, and so forth I think it is important to point out: 1. Steve Jobs, although a great man, was not the exclusive determining factor for Voiceover in Apple's products. 2. Just because Steve has passed on does not mean Apple will abandon accessibility. 3. There has been articles posted by the U.S. Department of Treasury (a year or two ago) that indicates there are over 100,000 blind/visually impaired users of iPhones. Note iPhones and the article did not mention iPads etc. 4. Apple has to balance accessibility against all the other projects that are ongoing. There are resources dedicated to many projects and some projects get more resources than others. Fact is accessibility may not get the same level of resources as other projects; however, you have to understand it is always a challenge trying to be sure resources are managed in such a way to ensure overall mission/goals/objectives are addressed without impacting the largest user community. I may not be explaining that as well as I could, but the idea is you put the resources on whatever will maximize profits and make no mistake that Apple is about making money. Oh and I'm all for Apple making money and buckets of it. MOre money means more resources and more resources means more likelihood accessibility gets attention. 5. Apple is the only mainstream company to my knowledge that has invested so heavily into accessibility. 6. A lot of developers have committed to making their apps accessible, so accessibility has really gained such a considerable amount of attention that there is support beyond even this community. You can bet if Apple ever decided to drop accessibility, we would have a good deal of support. I'm not lecturing you here Marc, but merely pointing out (because this comes up on the list from time to time) that APple has committed to accessibility and like any other aspect of software things get broken and hopefully fixed. I think a lot of the issues we all have experienced from time to time and still do in some cases is not being ignored. When you consider the size and scope of a project such as iOS itself, you can imagine the number of people working on such a project. Add to that the layers of management and development protocols etc… I'm not surprised that it takes a while to address problems. On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Marc Rocheleau marcrochelea...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, I sincerely hope that app developers who use VoiceOver have been reporting these problems to Apple's accessibility team. This is -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- “There is no shame in being who you are. There’s only shame in not going down swinging to protect it” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch
Hi, I think its fair to assume, triple press of home will start VO on setup. Its OS, and not hardware dependent. I couldn't see Apple taking a way that accessibility, in less than a year, when it wouldn't effect non Voiceover users in the least. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 17, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: If they stick with past behavior, triple click the home button and it should come up speaking. The charger, if it is just the USB charger should work fine. It should come with the new cable, so just plug the USB end of the cable into the charger. Of course, nobody will know for sure about the triple click home until they start shipping. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch I'm thinking about upgrading from my 4th generation Ipod touch to the 5th generation ipod touch. Will I be able to turn on voiceover right out of the box or will I have to use Itunes? Can I still use my Apple usb charger to charge it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Newsrack Goes to Wrong Feeds When a Feed is Selected
Hi all, Anyone else having this problem? Is there a particular way to focus on a feed so that the correct one comes up? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone
I had heard that the focus displays don't work with the current ios. Can anyone verify this? Kimber On 9/16/12, VaShaun Jones vashaun.jo...@gmail.com wrote: It does. I've ordered one but its on back order or they just haven't started shipping yet but it will do all that you've asked and more. On Sep 16, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Miranda B. knownofl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I haven’t seen this myself, but I am very interested in the Focus 14 from Freedom Scientific. From what I understand (someone please correct me if I’m wrong), this has the features you’ve mentioned that you’re looking for. In Christ, Miranda From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Amy Harris Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone Hi all, I’m looking at buying an iphone 5 as well as a braille keyboard/display. I need the keyboard/display to be in one single unit, to connect using bluetooth, to also work with my iPad 2, and to be very small/portable. I’ve been looking at the BraillePen 12 or the RefreshABraille 18, but I thought I’d ask if there were any others in that size range that might be worth looking at, and if there were any pros/cons to any of them. Does the list think that I should wait until IOS6 and/or the new iTunes come out before I purchase a braille display? Thanks for any quick thoughts on this subject. Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?
Acctually Windows 8 phone will have accessibility, navigator will be on the tablets and phones at launch. Press and hold the volume up and home buttons at the same time and you will start navigator. Navigator is starting to feel a lot like VoiceOver, will have to wait and see how it works on a touch screen, but on the computer it is a lot like VO. Ed On Sep 16, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi.. Windows 8 will be coming on October 26th. Windows Phone 8 has no accessibility at all. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:54 PM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release? Hi, I believe someone on this list recently mentioned the coming availability of Windows 8 and a Windows phone. For folks on this list who may wish to consider waiting on an iPhone 5 to see what the accessibility and usability of the forthcoming Windows products are, has anyone heard of a projected timeline for these? Thanks in advance. Keith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless
But thats kinda the point. You need to have a certain type of plan. Chances are, the plan you have is cheaper than the one they would want you to switch to to have facetime over cellular enabled. Many people would consider this a charge. Obviously, ATT does not. haha. But it is in their interest to not tout this as a charge. Shrug. When I have to possibly pay more, for something everyone else in the world is getting for free, its tough not for me to personally consider that as a charge. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 17, 2012, at 10:38 AM, blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: You are absolutely right! Who knows until we try it ourselves! Blind Treasures Phone: (804)-726-8900 Sales: sa...@blindtreasures.com Skype: kingmeade Web Page: http://www.blindtreasures.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:23 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless Interesting because I was told differently by two other reps. So, I guess we will not know until iOS 6 is out and folks try it. I think that is one way to really answer such questions since the reps are obviously not informed, which for the record may not even be their fault. Lots of info to communicate and not all organizations are always efficient in getting the word to the right people. On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:56 AM, blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: That is strange since I talked to two different att customer service reps and was told by both of them that there would be no restrictions or extra charges using face time over 3g as long as your data plan covered the usage. I called back twice just to make sure I got the same story before preordering the new IPhone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless Grant, I do; however, ATT also plans to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from even using the Face TIme service over 3G. In fact I guess anyone without a shared data plan will be prevented from using Face TIme. Verizon Wireless and Sprint do not plan to do this and I'm hoping ATT will back down as well. As aggravated as I have been of late with some of the nonsense of ATT (yes many carriers engage in the same behavior) it just seems that there has been some things going on that really bother me. I had an ATT customer service employee tell me that APple dictates how soon people can upgrade and when. That is simply false and for anyone at ATT to say this is lying. Apple has nothing to do with the upgrades and would love for you to buy another phone. So, yeah I am a little sensitive about what they are up to. On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. You should definitely take my question with a grain of sault. I'm not an ATT customer, in fact I live in Canada. This was just something I came across on the internet and was curious to find out whether it's true. Cheers, Grant On 9/16/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Grant, I do not know the answer; however, I would be completely irate if I found that they did not throttle LTE customers. In fact I'm going to check into this and ATT had better hope they throttle LTE customers as they would those of us on 3G. If not I suggest all clear the decks. On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, I heard that on LTE, ATT doesn't throttle their unlimited customers in the same way. Do you know if that's true or am I mistaken? Cheers, Grant On 9/15/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, I upgraded to the 4S last year and still retained my unlimited data plan. However, unlimited is really a joke because the fact is once you exceed 3Gb, ATT throttles your speed to the point that it is completely unreasonable. Although not technically a breech of contract, it does open the doors to arbitration and a good chance you can be freed from the contract. If ATT pulls the crap about not allowing FaceTime over the 3G network unless you have a shared data plan, I will be on the horn to the FCC and raise hell. In fact I'm still surprised they are able to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from having tethering. As I understand Verizon Wireless got pinged for this not long ago. On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T T Wireless. In fact, I preordered my iPhone 4. However, last year, at the
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
didn't know that I will just wait for the update On 9/17/2012 2:09 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Was not at all legit and if anyone downloaded this supposed GM copy, there may be functionality broken or other issues. On Sep 16, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: I think there was a posting on Lifehacker or Gizmodo last week outlining how you could already grab iOS 6 instead of having to wait till the 19th. I believe it had to do with visiting a website and downloading this or that file and syncing, etc. I can't recall if they stated whether or not it was a legitimate means of upgrading or not since I didn't bother reading it all the way through since I'm happy to wait the few extra days, but just pointing it out in case there are any feathers to be ruffled with the NDA and whatnot. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be under NDA. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: kliph...@gmail.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or reliability issues? Thanks, Jim On 9/16/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in iMessage. There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not disturb feature. That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday. On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote: 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- websites: http://www.xpango.com/?ref=92757322 http://prelaunchx.com/x/hanksmith5 http://www.virtapay.com/r/hanksmith5 http://www.reality-networkers.com/index.php?refid=3950951 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net twitter: @hanksmith2011 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 zello: hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
Just two other points here. Accessibility like any other project may have it's priority rise and fall as other projects priorities change or as Apple perceives it's lead in the accessibility area growing or shrinking. this is no different than any other project. I agree that Apple has done a lot as a main stream company with respect to accessibility, but I'm not positive that their investment is light years ahead of other main stream companies. I know for example, Google has quite a bit invested in accessibility right now between ChromeVox, Android and their on line services, such as Google Docs. IBM also came out with their own screen reader for OS/2, which I know is ancient history, but their investment to accessibility has continued with contributions to FireFox and the accessibility of products such as Lotus Notes, Sametime and Symphony. I also don't see Apple changing on a dime just because Steve Jobs is no longer with them. Who knows how this will effect Apple in the long run, but I'm sure he delegated some things before his death, and I'm sure there are others at Apple who shared and understood his vision. On 17/09/12 09:36, Marc Rocheleau wrote: Hey Scott, I totally understand what you mean. Like I said, I'm trying not to jump the gun or anything -- it's more a paranoia of mine than a valid fear. I fully acknowledge that Apple has too much money to lose if they drop accessibility from their products, especially with the communities that have been created online (such as this one) because of it. I think it's more a case of it feeling too good to be true still. No other mainstream companies provide this level of support for the blind/visually-impaired, imo, and sometimes it feels like the other shoe should be dropping at any second. I know Apple does it for money but I don't really care as long as I am getting value for my money. There's a reason I'm switching to an iMac in the coming months, after all. :) -Marc On 9/17/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Marc, Before folks go running off on a tangent about accessibility, Steve Jobs, and so forth I think it is important to point out: 1. Steve Jobs, although a great man, was not the exclusive determining factor for Voiceover in Apple's products. 2. Just because Steve has passed on does not mean Apple will abandon accessibility. 3. There has been articles posted by the U.S. Department of Treasury (a year or two ago) that indicates there are over 100,000 blind/visually impaired users of iPhones. Note iPhones and the article did not mention iPads etc. 4. Apple has to balance accessibility against all the other projects that are ongoing. There are resources dedicated to many projects and some projects get more resources than others. Fact is accessibility may not get the same level of resources as other projects; however, you have to understand it is always a challenge trying to be sure resources are managed in such a way to ensure overall mission/goals/objectives are addressed without impacting the largest user community. I may not be explaining that as well as I could, but the idea is you put the resources on whatever will maximize profits and make no mistake that Apple is about making money. Oh and I'm all for Apple making money and buckets of it. MOre money means more resources and more resources means more likelihood accessibility gets attention. 5. Apple is the only mainstream company to my knowledge that has invested so heavily into accessibility. 6. A lot of developers have committed to making their apps accessible, so accessibility has really gained such a considerable amount of attention that there is support beyond even this community. You can bet if Apple ever decided to drop accessibility, we would have a good deal of support. I'm not lecturing you here Marc, but merely pointing out (because this comes up on the list from time to time) that APple has committed to accessibility and like any other aspect of software things get broken and hopefully fixed. I think a lot of the issues we all have experienced from time to time and still do in some cases is not being ignored. When you consider the size and scope of a project such as iOS itself, you can imagine the number of people working on such a project. Add to that the layers of management and development protocols etc… I'm not surprised that it takes a while to address problems. On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Marc Rocheleau marcrochelea...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, I sincerely hope that app developers who use VoiceOver have been reporting these problems to Apple's accessibility team. This is -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: New iPhone user and new to iTunes
Hi Charlotte, First, are you working on a Mac or Windows computer? Second, do your ringtones show in your iTunes library? If you have a windows machine and your ringtones are not showing in iTunes, open your iTunes media folder in windows explorer. Copy your ringtones from wherever you saved them and paste them into the automaticallly add to iTunes folder found in the iTunes media folder. Close iTunes and restart it. Now you should see your ringtones in the appropriate tab within iTunes. Now connect your phone to the computer and sync. If you have a Mac I can't help with that. Kimber On 9/15/12, Charlotte sirius_bl...@comcast.net wrote: Hello all. I'm a new iPhone user and I just downloaded some ringtones, and am also looking for more. I don't know how to sync them with iTunes so they show up in my ringtone list. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Charlotte -- Skype Name: MidnightPixie2 If you're a crafter looking to advertise your wares, or you're looking to buy handmade items, then join my group. Send a blank email to handmadesellntrade-subscr...@yahoogroups.com If you love to knit, or just want to learn, come and chat with other like-minded blind and visually impaired people. Send an email to blindknitters-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?
Hi, I've done plenty of searches, and even browsed microsofts website. They mention no built-in screen reader for Windows Phone 8 whatsoever. They do mention Narator for Windows RT, which is probably what you were thinking of. If Windows Phone 8 does have this so-called Navigator, it's the first time I've heard of it, so it was my mistake. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed Worrell Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release? Acctually Windows 8 phone will have accessibility, navigator will be on the tablets and phones at launch. Press and hold the volume up and home buttons at the same time and you will start navigator. Navigator is starting to feel a lot like VoiceOver, will have to wait and see how it works on a touch screen, but on the computer it is a lot like VO. Ed On Sep 16, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi.. Windows 8 will be coming on October 26th. Windows Phone 8 has no accessibility at all. From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@ http://googlegroups.com googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:54 PM To: ' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release? Hi, I believe someone on this list recently mentioned the coming availability of Windows 8 and a Windows phone. For folks on this list who may wish to consider waiting on an iPhone 5 to see what the accessibility and usability of the forthcoming Windows products are, has anyone heard of a projected timeline for these? Thanks in advance. Keith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
So much for the iPhone 5 disappointment
Hello List, Thought I share this since the tech press and also quite a few people on this list downplayed the iPhone 5 quite a bit. Of course this happens every year when a new iPhone is released and then the numbers proff once again that the masses don't really care and everybody wants it. Below is the title and summary of the article followed by a link where you can read the full article: Apple's iPhone 5: 2 million preorders, 24 hours and a unique upgrade cycle Summary: Apple's preorders for the iPhone 5 are off the charts, but what remains to be seen is whether the company's new normal for product launches is condensed to 6 months or less. Full article: http://www.zdnet.com/apples-iphone-5-2-million-preorders-24-hours-and-a-uniq ue-upgrade-cycle-704359 Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
You know I've not been much a fan of Chrome or the ChromVox, but you know I understand it is still early in its development. WHat I am pleased by is the fact that GOogle also is investing in accessibility and I hope other companies will see the benefits and jump on the wagon as well. Do I want to see vendors such as FS or GW Micro go out of business? No, but at the same time if that were to happen it means that finally accessibility has reached a mainstream status and that can be a good (as well as a bad ) thing. All this means is if you looked back just five or so years ago, who ever thought we would have access to these touch-screen devices to the level we do today. Actually when you consider the entire 20 plus years of screen reading technology and look just in the last five or six years at what has been accomplished, well it is pretty amazing. On Sep 17, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Just two other points here. Accessibility like any other project may have it's priority rise and fall as other projects priorities change or as Apple perceives it's lead in the accessibility area growing or shrinking. this is no different than any other project. I agree that Apple has done a lot as a main stream company with respect to accessibility, but I'm not positive that their investment is light years ahead of other main stream companies. I know for example, Google has quite a bit invested in accessibility right now between ChromeVox, Android and their on line services, such as Google Docs. IBM also came out with their own screen reader for OS/2, which I know is ancient history, but their investment to accessibility has continued with contributions to FireFox and the accessibility of products such as Lotus Notes, Sametime and Symphony. I also don't see Apple changing on a dime just because Steve Jobs is no longer with them. Who knows how this will effect Apple in the long run, but I'm sure he delegated some things before his death, and I'm sure there are others at Apple who shared and understood his vision. On 17/09/12 09:36, Marc Rocheleau wrote: Hey Scott, I totally understand what you mean. Like I said, I'm trying not to jump the gun or anything -- it's more a paranoia of mine than a valid fear. I fully acknowledge that Apple has too much money to lose if they drop accessibility from their products, especially with the communities that have been created online (such as this one) because of it. I think it's more a case of it feeling too good to be true still. No other mainstream companies provide this level of support for the blind/visually-impaired, imo, and sometimes it feels like the other shoe should be dropping at any second. I know Apple does it for money but I don't really care as long as I am getting value for my money. There's a reason I'm switching to an iMac in the coming months, after all. :) -Marc On 9/17/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Marc, Before folks go running off on a tangent about accessibility, Steve Jobs, and so forth I think it is important to point out: 1. Steve Jobs, although a great man, was not the exclusive determining factor for Voiceover in Apple's products. 2. Just because Steve has passed on does not mean Apple will abandon accessibility. 3. There has been articles posted by the U.S. Department of Treasury (a year or two ago) that indicates there are over 100,000 blind/visually impaired users of iPhones. Note iPhones and the article did not mention iPads etc. 4. Apple has to balance accessibility against all the other projects that are ongoing. There are resources dedicated to many projects and some projects get more resources than others. Fact is accessibility may not get the same level of resources as other projects; however, you have to understand it is always a challenge trying to be sure resources are managed in such a way to ensure overall mission/goals/objectives are addressed without impacting the largest user community. I may not be explaining that as well as I could, but the idea is you put the resources on whatever will maximize profits and make no mistake that Apple is about making money. Oh and I'm all for Apple making money and buckets of it. MOre money means more resources and more resources means more likelihood accessibility gets attention. 5. Apple is the only mainstream company to my knowledge that has invested so heavily into accessibility. 6. A lot of developers have committed to making their apps accessible, so accessibility has really gained such a considerable amount of attention that there is support beyond even this community. You can bet if Apple ever decided to drop accessibility, we would have a good deal of support. I'm not lecturing you here Marc, but merely pointing out (because this comes up on the list from time to time) that APple has committed to accessibility and like any other aspect of software
OT sorry guys, email lists
Where can I get an up to date list of email lists that blind ppl frequent and that I can subscribe to if I want to? I tried searching yahoogroups. and I tried whitestick.co.uk, and the blist email list, any other places online where a list of lists are available? Private emails always welcome Follow me on twitter shirley_healy my facebook www.facebook.com/shirley.healy1980 Please check out my email lists allthingsblindnessrelated-subscr...@yahoogroups.com a general blindness related email list iphonevip-subscr...@yahoogroups.com for visually impaired iphone users blindchathouse-subscr...@yahoogroups.com A general chat list for the blind mental-matters-subscr...@yahoogroups.com for those with any mental health difficulties or their loved ones dissociativetalk-subscr...@yahoogroups.com for people who suffer from a dissociative disorder or their loved ones -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch
The charger is just the USB charger. I'll probably wait for some reviews and for speeddots to come out with a tactile screen protector. -Original Message- From: Richard Turner Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch If they stick with past behavior, triple click the home button and it should come up speaking. The charger, if it is just the USB charger should work fine. It should come with the new cable, so just plug the USB end of the cable into the charger. Of course, nobody will know for sure about the triple click home until they start shipping. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch I'm thinking about upgrading from my 4th generation Ipod touch to the 5th generation ipod touch. Will I be able to turn on voiceover right out of the box or will I have to use Itunes? Can I still use my Apple usb charger to charge it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Fifth gen ipod
What is the differences between the fourth and fiften gen ipod touch? Is it bigger more space etc? Is there really much point to upgrading? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch
How long should one wait before using triple press of home after turning it on? -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch Hi, I think its fair to assume, triple press of home will start VO on setup. Its OS, and not hardware dependent. I couldn't see Apple taking a way that accessibility, in less than a year, when it wouldn't effect non Voiceover users in the least. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 17, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: If they stick with past behavior, triple click the home button and it should come up speaking. The charger, if it is just the USB charger should work fine. It should come with the new cable, so just plug the USB end of the cable into the charger. Of course, nobody will know for sure about the triple click home until they start shipping. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch I'm thinking about upgrading from my 4th generation Ipod touch to the 5th generation ipod touch. Will I be able to turn on voiceover right out of the box or will I have to use Itunes? Can I still use my Apple usb charger to charge it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch
Hi, I would wait about a minute to be on the safe side. When you triple press home, the volume will probably be turned down fairly low by default. press the volume up key. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote: How long should one wait before using triple press of home after turning it on? -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch Hi, I think its fair to assume, triple press of home will start VO on setup. Its OS, and not hardware dependent. I couldn't see Apple taking a way that accessibility, in less than a year, when it wouldn't effect non Voiceover users in the least. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 17, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: If they stick with past behavior, triple click the home button and it should come up speaking. The charger, if it is just the USB charger should work fine. It should come with the new cable, so just plug the USB end of the cable into the charger. Of course, nobody will know for sure about the triple click home until they start shipping. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Question about 5th generation Ipod touch I'm thinking about upgrading from my 4th generation Ipod touch to the 5th generation ipod touch. Will I be able to turn on voiceover right out of the box or will I have to use Itunes? Can I still use my Apple usb charger to charge it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Fifth gen ipod
Here you go: Apple has unveiled its next-generation iPod touch . It looks like an iPhone 5 , with the same 4 inch, 1136 x 640 pixel display. But the 5th-generation iPod touch doesn’t make phone calls, it’s even thinner than the new iPhone, and it has a last-generation processor. that’s because the new iPod touch has a faster processor, bigger screen, and a better camera, among other improvements. The 5th-gen iPod touch measures 6.1mm (0.24 inches) thick and weighs 88 grams (3.1 ounces). It’s the thinnest and lightest iPod touch to date, even though it has the largest screen yet. It’s powered by an Apple A5 processor — much like the iPad 2 or the iPhone 4. That’s a step up from the 4th generation iPod touch, which has an A4 chip, but it falls short of the new A6 processor in the iPhone 5. Apple says that chip offers twice the graphics and CPU performance of an A5. Apple says the iPod touch is the “world’s most popular” media player, and also portable gaming device — and the new dual core chip should help boost gaming performance. The new iPod touch has a 5MP camera, LED flash and autofocus — features which weren’t available on the fixed-focus camera on the last iPod touch. Apple is also included a panorama mode and support for 1080p HD video recording with the rear camera. Like the iPhone 5, there’s a new FaceTime HD front-facing camera which can shoot 720p video, and the company has added an optional wrist strap which comes in handy if you plan to use the iPod touch as a point-and-shoot camera, or hand it to your kid for mobile gaming. Apple is adding Bluetooth 4.0 to the iPod touch, along with dual-channel 802.11a/b/g/n WiFi. The iPod touch also now gets AirPlay mirroring support, letting you pair the device with an Apple TV to stream games, videos, or other content to a TV. And for the first time, you can now use Siri voice recognition on the iPod touch. Apple iPod touch 5th gen Apple will offer 5 color options: yellow, pink, blue, black, and white. The 5th-gen iPod touch goes up for pre-order this week and should ship in October. A 32GB model costs $299, while a 64GB model runs $399. Apple will also offer a cheaper option: The 4th-gen iPod touch. The company is keeping the older models alive, but it’s phasing out the 8GB version. -Original Message- From: Shirley and maisie Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Fifth gen ipod What is the differences between the fourth and fiften gen ipod touch? Is it bigger more space etc? Is there really much point to upgrading? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone
Just a note, that Focus 14, you'll be looking long and hard for it at Humanware, it is a Freedom Scientific product. - Original Message - From: Amy Harris To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:42 PM Subject: Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone Thanks for the info! :-) I've been looking at the BraillePen 12 and I hadn't heard about the HumanWare 14-cell display! I'm going to add that to my list. *GRIN* Below are the ones that I've been considering. I'd appreciate any thoughts that anyone has on them. RefreshABraille 18 (8-dot Braille display.) BraillePen 12 VarioConnect 12-cell (Baum) EasyLink 12 (Optelec) HumanWare Focus 14 (Thanks to the list! *GRIN*) Also, I grew up on 6-dot Braille. For anyone that knows/has learned 8-dot Braille, is it a hard adaptation to make? Thanks again! Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone
That is totally not true. In fact, they connect very nicely with iOS 5.1.1. I tried out the focus 40 a month ago. Richard (Sent from Richard's iPhone) On Sep 17, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote: I had heard that the focus displays don't work with the current ios. Can anyone verify this? Kimber On 9/16/12, VaShaun Jones vashaun.jo...@gmail.com wrote: It does. I've ordered one but its on back order or they just haven't started shipping yet but it will do all that you've asked and more. On Sep 16, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Miranda B. knownofl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I haven’t seen this myself, but I am very interested in the Focus 14 from Freedom Scientific. From what I understand (someone please correct me if I’m wrong), this has the features you’ve mentioned that you’re looking for. In Christ, Miranda From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Amy Harris Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone Hi all, I’m looking at buying an iphone 5 as well as a braille keyboard/display. I need the keyboard/display to be in one single unit, to connect using bluetooth, to also work with my iPad 2, and to be very small/portable. I’ve been looking at the BraillePen 12 or the RefreshABraille 18, but I thought I’d ask if there were any others in that size range that might be worth looking at, and if there were any pros/cons to any of them. Does the list think that I should wait until IOS6 and/or the new iTunes come out before I purchase a braille display? Thanks for any quick thoughts on this subject. Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Fifth gen ipod
Shirley, I suggest you check Apple's website and maybe listen to the Keynote from last week as the 5th Gen iPods were introduced there. In short, it is a major update, in my opinion much more so than that between the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5. I guess it's more like the difference between the iPhone 4 and 5. The main things are that the new iPod Touch line now has the larger 4 inch retina screen same as the iPhone 5, they have the A5 processor same as the iPhone 4S, the front camera is 720P High definition and the back camera went to a 5 Megapixel auto focus which is a huge improvement. It also has the new small dock connector and the improved dual band WiFi and on top of all that it has SIRI. Those are the main things, another nice feature is that it comes with a detacheable wrist strap and the new ear pod headphones. Still 16, 32 and 64 Gig for same price as old iPod 4th Gen, $199, $299 and $399, respectively. I have a unlocked 4S without contract, but I don't see much point in upgrading to the iPhone 5, but when I bought my first iPhone 2 years ago I sold my iPod Touch Third Generation, now I will most likely buy a 64 Gig fifth Generation again to use at home and as a companion device to my iPhone. Only thing that might change my mind is the iPad Mini which will possibly be announced in October so I probably will wait to see how much Apple Goodness will be inside that one. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Boice speed for individual languages?
Not that I'm aware of. When switching back and forth between languages, I first have to go to the language option in the rotor and change the language and then go to the speed and flick down or up to adjust the speech output. Rather cumbersome process, but I'm not aware of an more efficient means when using multiple languages in VO. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Boice speed for individual languages? Is there a way to make the English voice a bit slower than the default 40% I have in Spanish on my IPhone? Would like when change to English to speak a bit slowr. Can this be done with Ios 5.5.1? Thanks in advance for ideas. Enviado desde mi iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone
As told to me by a freedom scientific employee in Louisville at the ACB convention, the 14 cell will not work with iOS until six is released. Yes, the 40 cell did work with five. Telephone: (614)522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: That is totally not true. In fact, they connect very nicely with iOS 5.1.1. I tried out the focus 40 a month ago. Richard (Sent from Richard's iPhone) On Sep 17, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote: I had heard that the focus displays don't work with the current ios. Can anyone verify this? Kimber On 9/16/12, VaShaun Jones vashaun.jo...@gmail.com wrote: It does. I've ordered one but its on back order or they just haven't started shipping yet but it will do all that you've asked and more. On Sep 16, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Miranda B. knownofl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I haven’t seen this myself, but I am very interested in the Focus 14 from Freedom Scientific. From what I understand (someone please correct me if I’m wrong), this has the features you’ve mentioned that you’re looking for. In Christ, Miranda From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Amy Harris Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone Hi all, I’m looking at buying an iphone 5 as well as a braille keyboard/display. I need the keyboard/display to be in one single unit, to connect using bluetooth, to also work with my iPad 2, and to be very small/portable. I’ve been looking at the BraillePen 12 or the RefreshABraille 18, but I thought I’d ask if there were any others in that size range that might be worth looking at, and if there were any pros/cons to any of them. Does the list think that I should wait until IOS6 and/or the new iTunes come out before I purchase a braille display? Thanks for any quick thoughts on this subject. Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Fifth gen ipod
Outside of the visual aspects, it's more or less a small iPad and maybe a better option for us blind if having to pick between the two especially now that it has Siri. I too am curious to see what may or may not be included in the mythical iPad Mini and if the differences aren't all that much or if they're more visually aspect driven which would make the most sense, then I would give serious consideration to getting a new iPod. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Fifth gen ipod Shirley, I suggest you check Apple's website and maybe listen to the Keynote from last week as the 5th Gen iPods were introduced there. In short, it is a major update, in my opinion much more so than that between the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5. I guess it's more like the difference between the iPhone 4 and 5. The main things are that the new iPod Touch line now has the larger 4 inch retina screen same as the iPhone 5, they have the A5 processor same as the iPhone 4S, the front camera is 720P High definition and the back camera went to a 5 Megapixel auto focus which is a huge improvement. It also has the new small dock connector and the improved dual band WiFi and on top of all that it has SIRI. Those are the main things, another nice feature is that it comes with a detacheable wrist strap and the new ear pod headphones. Still 16, 32 and 64 Gig for same price as old iPod 4th Gen, $199, $299 and $399, respectively. I have a unlocked 4S without contract, but I don't see much point in upgrading to the iPhone 5, but when I bought my first iPhone 2 years ago I sold my iPod Touch Third Generation, now I will most likely buy a 64 Gig fifth Generation again to use at home and as a companion device to my iPhone. Only thing that might change my mind is the iPad Mini which will possibly be announced in October so I probably will wait to see how much Apple Goodness will be inside that one. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
unlocking digit-eyes features?
Hi, I'm trying to get to all the features of digit-eyes barcode scanner and labeller so that I can create an account and sign in, set up a bluetooth barcode reader, and so on. All I see though, is a scan button, copyright notice and scanning tips button. I hit the scanning tips button and it brought up a website in the program with an overwelming array of info. So, for example, I tapped set up a laser scanner and it didn't come up with any information on the topic that I could find. I checked the settings but there's no settings panel for digit-eyes. Am I missing something? Thanks, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
question about iphones in northern Ontario Canada and witch one would be the best one to get.
Hi all. I live in Northern Ontario Canada. Hear we have Telis, Rodgers, and bell for our loacle cell phone market. as a blind person who has never owned a iphone or any i device before I would like to know witch one would be the best phone to get when it comes to accessibility and support?keeping in mind that I live alone and a pair of eyes are not always that easy to come bye. Right now I have eastlink for my phone, internet, and cable. it is all under 1 bill now eastlink is not a cell phone company. with them I pay ruffley around 198 a month. and taking in to account that my rent is 475 a month and that I get 1114 from odsp. I just was wondering as a blind person living on a fixed income if this would be even a worth wile move? I have aflip cell phone with Telis it is a pay as you go and has 100 pree paid minutes on it. I talked to Telis and asked them if I would be able to trade this phone in for a iphone and they said not with out going on a 3 year contract. I also am using windows xp on my pc and windows 7 on my laptop so I would also like to know how things like that would work when it comes to downloading ring tones and other things like using I tunes with a windows pc? many thanks for any help that any Canadians who live in northern Ontario can give me with this. from Mich. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Fifth gen ipod
h, dont think I am interested, I have the 64 gig fourth gen ipod I love it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Fifth gen ipod
I want an ipad, I would love one I dont think I'll bother with the new ipod I like my 64 gig fouth gen one a lot I dont really use the camera all that much on it I use the one on my iphone instead I have a 16 gig iphone 4s, and a 64 gig ipod so yeah, I'm good I wish the classic had accesible speech, as its huge in capacity -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Fifth gen ipod
Well the fact that seari is on it is something, I like seari. Its a useful ap. But I am quite a fast texter anyway, even without the blue tooth keyboard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Hey guys! When I first started this thread I was expecting to learn about additions and improvements in Voice Over Instead I waws disappointed, dejected and not pleasantly surprised at the content of the posts. I was looking forward with big eyes and great expectation at new features and hoping for new improvements in Voice Over in the new iOS 6.0. Can someone please post some good news? Give some good new features that they're going to get? Thank you for making my day! Many blessings! Avnish Chopra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Michael quach aps
There is an ap developer whose aps are simple, fun and very accessible with vo, his name is michael quach and if you search in the ap store you'll find plent of aps he has developed. I love them. I downloaded almost all of them. Very entertaining! Private emails always welcome Follow me on twitter shirley_healy my facebook www.facebook.com/shirley.healy1980 Please check out my email lists allthingsblindnessrelated-subscr...@yahoogroups.com a general blindness related email list iphonevip-subscr...@yahoogroups.com for visually impaired iphone users blindchathouse-subscr...@yahoogroups.com A general chat list for the blind mental-matters-subscr...@yahoogroups.com for those with any mental health difficulties or their loved ones dissociativetalk-subscr...@yahoogroups.com for people who suffer from a dissociative disorder or their loved ones -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Preordered my iPhone 5!
Hi. I preordered my iPhone 5 64 GB in white on Friday evening. I should get it in October, though I certainly hope it is sooner. After reading the messages on list about the carrier stores being full of people wanting to preorder, I am glad that I called Apple to order mine. I think that people are going to show up in droves this Friday, and that stores will sell out quickly. I heard from someone on Twitter saying he was going to go to the Sprint store to get his. Though he doesn't think the lines will be long, I say that strange things happen when a new iPhone comes out. Seems like the masses come out as well, :) I am upgrading from an iPhone 4, mainly to get more up to date hardware. I've had issues with my 4 in the last few weeks and am ready for new hardware. My future wife will get my current phone, which will be good for her since she has an average phone and will be happy to have some sort of iPhone. Wayne On 9/16/12, Sharon smac...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, I also preordered the I phone 5 black 16 gb and ordered it from ATT's site about 7:00 a.m. They said should be here the 21st. Sharon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preordered my iPhone 5! Hi, I ordered a black 32GB iPhone 5, from the sprint site. I actually ordered at 8:30 in the morning yesterday. Its do to be delivered on the 21st. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've preordered my iPhone 5, and it should arrive on or near October 5th. Has anyone else taken the plunge and preordered, what capacity did you get, and from where? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Hi Avnish, There are a few people on here who have developer accounts and have been using the various beta versions of iOS 6, if they take the NDA seriously and I think most of them do, they can't talk about it. Anything else is information available online to anybody. iOS 6 has some very nice new features, but if you are expecting some sort of new miracle Voiceover you will most likely be disappointed. Don't forget, Voiceover itself is an iOS feature and not a stand-alone product. I assume Voiceover will work pretty much the same on iOS 6 as it did with iOS 5. Maybe a few bugs are fixed and maybe a few new ones show up, but we all have to wait until Wednesday morning Pacific time before we get a go at iOS 6. Sorry I couldn't make your day, but I think for the time being both the iPhone as well as iOS which includes Voiceover will continue to evolve year after year and maybe at some point we see again something revolutionary instead of just evolutionary and then who knows if it will come from Apple, Microsoft, Google or RIM. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Preordered my iPhone 5!
Hi, I don't know where he came up with that 'not a long line' stuff, lines are expected to be absolutely massive. As far as getting your phone sooner than October, I'm also hoping for that, but am not holding my breath. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 11:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preordered my iPhone 5! Hi. I preordered my iPhone 5 64 GB in white on Friday evening. I should get it in October, though I certainly hope it is sooner. After reading the messages on list about the carrier stores being full of people wanting to preorder, I am glad that I called Apple to order mine. I think that people are going to show up in droves this Friday, and that stores will sell out quickly. I heard from someone on Twitter saying he was going to go to the Sprint store to get his. Though he doesn't think the lines will be long, I say that strange things happen when a new iPhone comes out. Seems like the masses come out as well, :) I am upgrading from an iPhone 4, mainly to get more up to date hardware. I've had issues with my 4 in the last few weeks and am ready for new hardware. My future wife will get my current phone, which will be good for her since she has an average phone and will be happy to have some sort of iPhone. Wayne On 9/16/12, Sharon smac...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, I also preordered the I phone 5 black 16 gb and ordered it from ATT's site about 7:00 a.m. They said should be here the 21st. Sharon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preordered my iPhone 5! Hi, I ordered a black 32GB iPhone 5, from the sprint site. I actually ordered at 8:30 in the morning yesterday. Its do to be delivered on the 21st. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've preordered my iPhone 5, and it should arrive on or near October 5th. Has anyone else taken the plunge and preordered, what capacity did you get, and from where? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Boice speed for individual languages?
My experience is the same as your's. It would be nice if we could have different languages spoken at the speed of our choice. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On 2012-09-17, at 10:21 AM, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: Not that I'm aware of. When switching back and forth between languages, I first have to go to the language option in the rotor and change the language and then go to the speed and flick down or up to adjust the speech output. Rather cumbersome process, but I'm not aware of an more efficient means when using multiple languages in VO. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Boice speed for individual languages? Is there a way to make the English voice a bit slower than the default 40% I have in Spanish on my IPhone? Would like when change to English to speak a bit slowr. Can this be done with Ios 5.5.1? Thanks in advance for ideas. Enviado desde mi iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: unlocking digit-eyes features?
Hi You're supposed to create an account on the digit-eyes.com website. Although the help text should be readable anyway. Guenni -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?
Wow! And best of all the windows eight phone has wireless recharging, microSD card to increase memory by up to 64 GB, and NFC! I suggest you wait. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Introduction
Greetings! and welcome to the Ihponeland! I've had mine for almost 2 months, thus would like to give you some tips and resources I found useful. First of all go to http://www.visionaustralia.org/atpodcasts/ where you'll find especially the Iphone/Ipod tutorials which are great! They gave me clarification on little details and also got me to explore and not be afraid to learn things on my own. Afterwards I'd recommend the Apple Vis site which also has great info! It's address is http://applevis.com Now as for activating VoiceOver, usually if the phone is right out of the box and not set up yet, do a triple click home button; if not, as I did, ask the store implyees to activate VoiceOver for you by going to Settings; General; Accessibility and click on VoiceOver and the phone should start talking! Siri is used more as an extra feature but diesn'doesn't replace VoiceOver. Hope this helps and again welcome to the list! You'll learn a lot! Gerardo El 15/09/2012 06:44 p.m., Ezzie Ez escribió: hereello everyone, My name is Ezzie Bueno and I am a college student majoring in music education. I've been using a Macbook Pro for almost two years now. Now that my upgrade is here, I've decided to take the plunge and get myself in gear with the all-new iPhone 5! I'm totally blind and have never used a Touwh Screen in my life. How did you get started using the iPhone? What tips do you have for me as far as getting VO turned on, using SIRI, and getting started in general? Also, which apps do you all recommend once I get comfortable with the iPhone itself? Thank you, Ezzie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Find My Friends
I'd like to know how to use this app. My wife and I each have iPhones and when I try to set it up, it seems to just go by apple ID, which we share. I set up one phone, and then when I go to set up the other one, it says that I'm already set up. Thanks in advance, Thom Hi listers, My wife and I each have iPhones using the same apple ID. When I set up this app, I can't figure out how to set them up as two devices. Thanks in advance, Thom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Fifth gen ipod
My daughter has a fourth gen iPod, which has a much slower response time. It will be interesting to see if the new ones are as responsive as the iPhone is. Suzanne - Original Message - From: Cristobal To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:32 PM Subject: RE: Fifth gen ipod Outside of the visual aspects, it's more or less a small iPad and maybe a better option for us blind if having to pick between the two especially now that it has Siri. I too am curious to see what may or may not be included in the mythical iPad Mini and if the differences aren't all that much or if they're more visually aspect driven which would make the most sense, then I would give serious consideration to getting a new iPod. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Fifth gen ipod Shirley, I suggest you check Apple's website and maybe listen to the Keynote from last week as the 5th Gen iPods were introduced there. In short, it is a major update, in my opinion much more so than that between the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5. I guess it's more like the difference between the iPhone 4 and 5. The main things are that the new iPod Touch line now has the larger 4 inch retina screen same as the iPhone 5, they have the A5 processor same as the iPhone 4S, the front camera is 720P High definition and the back camera went to a 5 Megapixel auto focus which is a huge improvement. It also has the new small dock connector and the improved dual band WiFi and on top of all that it has SIRI. Those are the main things, another nice feature is that it comes with a detacheable wrist strap and the new ear pod headphones. Still 16, 32 and 64 Gig for same price as old iPod 4th Gen, $199, $299 and $399, respectively. I have a unlocked 4S without contract, but I don't see much point in upgrading to the iPhone 5, but when I bought my first iPhone 2 years ago I sold my iPod Touch Third Generation, now I will most likely buy a 64 Gig fifth Generation again to use at home and as a companion device to my iPhone. Only thing that might change my mind is the iPad Mini which will possibly be announced in October so I probably will wait to see how much Apple Goodness will be inside that one. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Thanks Sieghard, I am quite happy with iOS 5.1.1 and 4S. However I would have loved to see an easier way to select text! Somehow the pinch gesture never works! Space Thanks Andy look forward to the 19th! Good night! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Fifth gen ipod
The new iPod Touch supposedly has the same chip as the 5S and iPad 2 (A5 chip). I like my iPad secodn generation, but I more than often find myself going back to my iPhone for quite nearly everything since I prefer using one hand when possible to work with the smaller screen. My sighted wife mainly uses my iPad now because of the visual aspects. The one app I absolutely prefer on my iPad than the iPhone and I would imagine it would be the same for the iPod touch is FeeddLer because it can show up to 100 rss entries at a time instead of the 20 items on an iPhone. If it weren't for my wife using the iPad so much, I'd give serious consideration of selling the tablet (64 GB) and maybe scoring one or two iPods if not the iPad mini depending on what it'll contain. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Suzanne Wilson Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Fifth gen ipod My daughter has a fourth gen iPod, which has a much slower response time. It will be interesting to see if the new ones are as responsive as the iPhone is. Suzanne - Original Message - From: Cristobal mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:32 PM Subject: RE: Fifth gen ipod Outside of the visual aspects, it's more or less a small iPad and maybe a better option for us blind if having to pick between the two especially now that it has Siri. I too am curious to see what may or may not be included in the mythical iPad Mini and if the differences aren't all that much or if they're more visually aspect driven which would make the most sense, then I would give serious consideration to getting a new iPod. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Fifth gen ipod Shirley, I suggest you check Apple's website and maybe listen to the Keynote from last week as the 5th Gen iPods were introduced there. In short, it is a major update, in my opinion much more so than that between the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5. I guess it's more like the difference between the iPhone 4 and 5. The main things are that the new iPod Touch line now has the larger 4 inch retina screen same as the iPhone 5, they have the A5 processor same as the iPhone 4S, the front camera is 720P High definition and the back camera went to a 5 Megapixel auto focus which is a huge improvement. It also has the new small dock connector and the improved dual band WiFi and on top of all that it has SIRI. Those are the main things, another nice feature is that it comes with a detacheable wrist strap and the new ear pod headphones. Still 16, 32 and 64 Gig for same price as old iPod 4th Gen, $199, $299 and $399, respectively. I have a unlocked 4S without contract, but I don't see much point in upgrading to the iPhone 5, but when I bought my first iPhone 2 years ago I sold my iPod Touch Third Generation, now I will most likely buy a 64 Gig fifth Generation again to use at home and as a companion device to my iPhone. Only thing that might change my mind is the iPad Mini which will possibly be announced in October so I probably will wait to see how much Apple Goodness will be inside that one. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
iPhone and Gmail
Hello listers, Gmail doesna't seem to have the facility to delete messages from the server once downloaded. I've just started using the iPhone for email, and I can't seem to get rid of a whole load of messages that I've already read on the PC. Any help welcomed, with thanks, Regards, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iPhone and Gmail
Mike, you can get round this by moving them to the deleted items folder. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Cassidy Sent: 17 September 2012 18:39 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iPhone and Gmail Hello listers, Gmail doesna't seem to have the facility to delete messages from the server once downloaded. I've just started using the iPhone for email, and I can't seem to get rid of a whole load of messages that I've already read on the PC. Any help welcomed, with thanks, Regards, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iPhone and Gmail
Afternoon if what you want to do is remove all messages from the google server the only solution I found was to install thunderbird on your PC or on your Mac if you have one and delete the messages with the email client. I found no other way to do a server delete. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Cassidy Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 13:39 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iPhone and Gmail Hello listers, Gmail doesna't seem to have the facility to delete messages from the server once downloaded. I've just started using the iPhone for email, and I can't seem to get rid of a whole load of messages that I've already read on the PC. Any help welcomed, with thanks, Regards, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?
Except for one little problem if you are blind you will not have anyway to access the phone. Oh, well just a little miner issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of AppleGourmet Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 13:09 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release? Wow! And best of all the windows eight phone has wireless recharging, microSD card to increase memory by up to 64 GB, and NFC! I suggest you wait. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Hi all, I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. Thanks Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there were other issues. So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are blowing smoke. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville Zello: =AnonyMouse= -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that they did. If they were going to go as far as they did, they could at leastmention the areas they were referring to. Let's hope they were blowing smoke and the others are right that there are not other major issues. A few have said there are not. Jim On 9/16/12, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well. However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If the only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use than unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same thing using iTunes. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi, Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't going to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on Wednesday, so for those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me being one of them, there's a chance we won't see improvements until the store changes are completely rolled out. Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable since the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS itself. Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and the App Store isn't inaccessible. I update apps in iOS6 daily. I think it is true to say that the information conveyed by VoiceOver could be more helpful. First, the behaviour of the App Store has changed. As has already been said in this thread, you no longer need to enter your password when you update. You do, however, contrary to some speculation in blogs a while ago, still have to enter your password when you install a free app. When you update an app, you are no longer taken out of the App Store and placed on the page the app is installed on. Instead, you simply stay in the App Store, right where you are. When you double tap the update button, I can see nothing that gives you confirmation
volume issue after using hello?
Hi all, has anyone else notice that both volume and speaker phone do not work well after using Gerard Doody jerrydood...@gmail.com Zello, and if so, is there a fix? thanksin advance, Jerry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
Hi Sandy. Yes, I was talking about the App Store in IOS 6. If I have to plug my phone in to buy apps and everything like that, I'll just wait until they fix it and then I'll upgrade. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book On 2012-09-17, at 10:39 AM, viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone
That's the one I was interested in. I feel like a 40 cell display would be too big to be really portable. On 9/17/12, Eric SS sseri...@gmail.com wrote: As told to me by a freedom scientific employee in Louisville at the ACB convention, the 14 cell will not work with iOS until six is released. Yes, the 40 cell did work with five. Telephone: (614)522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: That is totally not true. In fact, they connect very nicely with iOS 5.1.1. I tried out the focus 40 a month ago. Richard (Sent from Richard's iPhone) On Sep 17, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote: I had heard that the focus displays don't work with the current ios. Can anyone verify this? Kimber On 9/16/12, VaShaun Jones vashaun.jo...@gmail.com wrote: It does. I've ordered one but its on back order or they just haven't started shipping yet but it will do all that you've asked and more. On Sep 16, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Miranda B. knownofl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I haven’t seen this myself, but I am very interested in the Focus 14 from Freedom Scientific. From what I understand (someone please correct me if I’m wrong), this has the features you’ve mentioned that you’re looking for. In Christ, Miranda From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Amy Harris Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone Hi all, I’m looking at buying an iphone 5 as well as a braille keyboard/display. I need the keyboard/display to be in one single unit, to connect using bluetooth, to also work with my iPad 2, and to be very small/portable. I’ve been looking at the BraillePen 12 or the RefreshABraille 18, but I thought I’d ask if there were any others in that size range that might be worth looking at, and if there were any pros/cons to any of them. Does the list think that I should wait until IOS6 and/or the new iTunes come out before I purchase a braille display? Thanks for any quick thoughts on this subject. Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Sluggish iPhone voice over
When this happens on my 3gs, I do a triple click Home to turn off Voiceover, leave it resting for about 15-30 seconds, and when I do the triple click it's great again! Hope this helps. El 17/09/2012 08:38 a.m., Regina Alvarado escribió: Garth: Thank you. I did exactly that. So far it has worked. If it bogs down again, are there any other thoughts about what I can do? Wondering why after 6 months of VO behaving wonderfully it is just now acting up? Guess that is an Apple question, right? Thanks again. Reggie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Garth Humphreys Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sluggish iPhone voice over Hi Reggie If you are finding that VO is just generally sluggish in various parts of your phone then this is not related in any way to the up coming iOS release. VO is not like Siri in that it doesn't need to check in with apple servers to provide feedback. I would recommend that you clear out your app switcher and then restart your phone by holding down the lock and home buttons for 10 seconds. Garth www.iblindtech.com/ Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe to the iBlindTech Democast. Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or @iBlindTech for podcast info. Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com On 17/09/2012, at 10:19 PM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, Has anyone noticed in the last two days that voice over has become much more sluggish? Is this because of the new version coming this week? I an going to turn off my phone again to see is it helps, but does anybody have any further thoughts on what I can do? It happens in email and focus for Facebook, so is makes me think it might not be VO at all. Any thoughts welcome. Thanks. Just saw the problem again reading post in Fleksy. Seems to be leaving out words and then cutting in again with a sharp sort of voice as if someone has pushed a button for her to talk in the middle of a word. Now not so sure of my initial thought. Thanks for any help. Up to now, VO has never had a problem. Reggie and Brooks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
Hi Shawn, assuming this issue isn't fixed for a while, you wouldn't have to plug your phone in. Wireless syncing is available in iOS, plus, if you enable automatic downloads, you can purchase something in iTunes and it will be pushed to your phone automatically. Not at all underplaying the issue, just offering work-arounds for a situation that I very much hope is temporary. Jonathan _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2012 6:15 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6 Hi Sandy. Yes, I was talking about the App Store in IOS 6. If I have to plug my phone in to buy apps and everything like that, I'll just wait until they fix it and then I'll upgrade. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book On 2012-09-17, at 10:39 AM, viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained!
I love my 4S running IOS 5.1.1 And its a great phone. In fact ever since I started using it, I find that I rarely feel the need to switch on my Mac Air! However, notwithstanding all the negative rumours about IOS 6.0 and Voice Over, I still am going to upgrade to it as soon as it is available! Why? Because I trust that the guys who could give us 5.1.1 can only do better! I can blindly take the chance :) and so will most of you who are reading this!! Just can't wait to upgrade :) watch this space on 19th. I am sure all who have 6.0 will have broad smiles :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Hi, honestly, since the overwhelming majority of people on list, and in general have not used IOS 6, I would just wait until its official release, and see what people are saying then. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:47 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys! When I first started this thread I was expecting to learn about additions and improvements in Voice Over Instead I waws disappointed, dejected and not pleasantly surprised at the content of the posts. I was looking forward with big eyes and great expectation at new features and hoping for new improvements in Voice Over in the new iOS 6.0. Can someone please post some good news? Give some good new features that they're going to get? Thank you for making my day! Many blessings! Avnish Chopra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone and Gmail
This may be true if you want to do a mass delete of messages from your server, but you can definitely delete individual messages from GMail on your iPhone. I assume we're talking IMAP here. As someone else said, you can move your messages into the delete folder. Alternatively, you can turn archiving off and then you'll have a delete button replace the archive button. On 17/09/12 13:05, Jesus Garcia wrote: Afternoon if what you want to do is remove all messages from the google server the only solution I found was to install thunderbird on your PC or on your Mac if you have one and delete the messages with the email client. I found no other way to do a server delete. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Cassidy Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 13:39 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iPhone and Gmail Hello listers, Gmail doesna't seem to have the facility to delete messages from the server once downloaded. I've just started using the iPhone for email, and I can't seem to get rid of a whole load of messages that I've already read on the PC. Any help welcomed, with thanks, Regards, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Preordered my iPhone 5!
Hi, This really does depend on where you go. I remember the day I got my iPhone 4, there was a line blocks long at the Apple store. At the local Radio Shack, I walked in, 1 person was ahead of me, come to think of it, we were the only customers in the store, and I bought my iPhone. So, I would think one going to an Apple store the morning of launch will be standing on a pretty long line. Not so much in the evening or, at another store all together. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 17, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't know where he came up with that 'not a long line' stuff, lines are expected to be absolutely massive. As far as getting your phone sooner than October, I'm also hoping for that, but am not holding my breath. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 11:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preordered my iPhone 5! Hi. I preordered my iPhone 5 64 GB in white on Friday evening. I should get it in October, though I certainly hope it is sooner. After reading the messages on list about the carrier stores being full of people wanting to preorder, I am glad that I called Apple to order mine. I think that people are going to show up in droves this Friday, and that stores will sell out quickly. I heard from someone on Twitter saying he was going to go to the Sprint store to get his. Though he doesn't think the lines will be long, I say that strange things happen when a new iPhone comes out. Seems like the masses come out as well, :) I am upgrading from an iPhone 4, mainly to get more up to date hardware. I've had issues with my 4 in the last few weeks and am ready for new hardware. My future wife will get my current phone, which will be good for her since she has an average phone and will be happy to have some sort of iPhone. Wayne On 9/16/12, Sharon smac...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, I also preordered the I phone 5 black 16 gb and ordered it from ATT's site about 7:00 a.m. They said should be here the 21st. Sharon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Preordered my iPhone 5! Hi, I ordered a black 32GB iPhone 5, from the sprint site. I actually ordered at 8:30 in the morning yesterday. Its do to be delivered on the 21st. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've preordered my iPhone 5, and it should arrive on or near October 5th. Has anyone else taken the plunge and preordered, what capacity did you get, and from where? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: iPhone and Gmail
Hi set your Gmail account up as Microsoft exchange you can find the settings in Google.com what you do that set your mail to sink one day that will keep all your emails that you delete on your phone it will remove them from the server everything will work fine if you need more information please email me thanks Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: This may be true if you want to do a mass delete of messages from your server, but you can definitely delete individual messages from GMail on your iPhone. I assume we're talking IMAP here. As someone else said, you can move your messages into the delete folder. Alternatively, you can turn archiving off and then you'll have a delete button replace the archive button. On 17/09/12 13:05, Jesus Garcia wrote: Afternoon if what you want to do is remove all messages from the google server the only solution I found was to install thunderbird on your PC or on your Mac if you have one and delete the messages with the email client. I found no other way to do a server delete. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Cassidy Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 13:39 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iPhone and Gmail Hello listers, Gmail doesna't seem to have the facility to delete messages from the server once downloaded. I've just started using the iPhone for email, and I can't seem to get rid of a whole load of messages that I've already read on the PC. Any help welcomed, with thanks, Regards, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iPhone and Gmail
thanks did not know that was possible. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 14:38 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone and Gmail This may be true if you want to do a mass delete of messages from your server, but you can definitely delete individual messages from GMail on your iPhone. I assume we're talking IMAP here. As someone else said, you can move your messages into the delete folder. Alternatively, you can turn archiving off and then you'll have a delete button replace the archive button. On 17/09/12 13:05, Jesus Garcia wrote: Afternoon if what you want to do is remove all messages from the google server the only solution I found was to install thunderbird on your PC or on your Mac if you have one and delete the messages with the email client. I found no other way to do a server delete. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Cassidy Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 13:39 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iPhone and Gmail Hello listers, Gmail doesna't seem to have the facility to delete messages from the server once downloaded. I've just started using the iPhone for email, and I can't seem to get rid of a whole load of messages that I've already read on the PC. Any help welcomed, with thanks, Regards, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it will update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will be updated on the device as well. Sent from my mac On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi all, I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. Thanks Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there were other issues. So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are blowing smoke. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville Zello: =AnonyMouse= -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that they did. If they were going to go as far as they did, they could at leastmention the areas they were referring to. Let's hope they were blowing smoke and the others are right that there are not other major issues. A few have said there are not. Jim On 9/16/12, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well. However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If the only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use than unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same thing using iTunes. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi, Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't going to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on Wednesday, so for those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me being one of them, there's a chance we won't see improvements until the store changes are completely rolled out. Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable since the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS itself. Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and the App Store isn't inaccessible. I update apps in iOS6 daily. I think it is true to say that the information conveyed by VoiceOver could be more helpful. First, the behaviour of the App Store has changed. As has already been said in this
Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone
The one that I saw worked with 5.1. I don't know about IOS 6. I do know that the HIMS products don't work with 5.1, but again, that may be resolved with Ios 6. - Original Message - From: Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone I had heard that the focus displays don't work with the current ios. Can anyone verify this? Kimber On 9/16/12, VaShaun Jones vashaun.jo...@gmail.com wrote: It does. I've ordered one but its on back order or they just haven't started shipping yet but it will do all that you've asked and more. On Sep 16, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Miranda B. knownofl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I haven’t seen this myself, but I am very interested in the Focus 14 from Freedom Scientific. From what I understand (someone please correct me if I’m wrong), this has the features you’ve mentioned that you’re looking for. In Christ, Miranda From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Amy Harris Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone Hi all, I’m looking at buying an iphone 5 as well as a braille keyboard/display. I need the keyboard/display to be in one single unit, to connect using bluetooth, to also work with my iPad 2, and to be very small/portable. I’ve been looking at the BraillePen 12 or the RefreshABraille 18, but I thought I’d ask if there were any others in that size range that might be worth looking at, and if there were any pros/cons to any of them. Does the list think that I should wait until IOS6 and/or the new iTunes come out before I purchase a braille display? Thanks for any quick thoughts on this subject. Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Find My Friends
Hi Tom, One of you should set up a separate Apple ID for iCloud. This will give you each your own iCloud storage and will allow you to use iMessage and Find My Friends separately. You can still share an ID for purchase s. To do this, one of you should go to iCloud and choose the Account button. If you are currently sharing an account, they'll need to delete this account from their iPhone and then set up another one. HTH, Anna On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Thom thom3...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to know how to use this app. My wife and I each have iPhones and when I try to set it up, it seems to just go by apple ID, which we share. I set up one phone, and then when I go to set up the other one, it says that I'm already set up. Thanks in advance, Thom Hi listers, My wife and I each have iPhones using the same apple ID. When I set up this app, I can't figure out how to set them up as two devices. Thanks in advance, Thom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
netflix update
There is a netflix update in the app store today. The description of new features references a ui update without giving any details, of course. Has anybody tried this update yet to see if anything is broken or is now easier to use? Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
failed to backup on i cloud
Hi all: I need to backup my I phone via I cloud, and each time I got the message failed to backup, after 65%, but I can see that the last back up is when I made it, Why I can't get the message failed to backup? Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. attachment: winmail.dat
Re: netflix update
After a quick check, I don't see anything different from the previous verison. Jesse On 9/17/2012 3:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: There is a netflix update in the app store today. The description of new features references a ui update without giving any details, of course. Has anybody tried this update yet to see if anything is broken or is now easier to use? Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained!
I'm going to upgrade right away, as well. I'm always curious, and IOS is still the mobile system I know. I'd like to test-drive it and give feedback where it's needed, and I can't do that without upgrading. :) I have my Mac Mini and Itunes if I really need to download an app, and maybe this glitch will cut down on my app-buying spree for a little while. Ha! Take care, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:32 AM, sen...@gmail.com wrote: I love my 4S running IOS 5.1.1 And its a great phone. In fact ever since I started using it, I find that I rarely feel the need to switch on my Mac Air! However, notwithstanding all the negative rumours about IOS 6.0 and Voice Over, I still am going to upgrade to it as soon as it is available! Why? Because I trust that the guys who could give us 5.1.1 can only do better! I can blindly take the chance :) and so will most of you who are reading this!! Just can't wait to upgrade :) watch this space on 19th. I am sure all who have 6.0 will have broad smiles :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
Hi Jon; If you have anything to do with, it will be temporary! Anthony Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Shawn, assuming this issue isn't fixed for a while, you wouldn't have to plug your phone in. Wireless syncing is available in iOS, plus, if you enable automatic downloads, you can purchase something in iTunes and it will be pushed to your phone automatically. Not at all underplaying the issue, just offering work-arounds for a situation that I very much hope is temporary. Jonathan From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2012 6:15 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6 Hi Sandy. Yes, I was talking about the App Store in IOS 6. If I have to plug my phone in to buy apps and everything like that, I'll just wait until they fix it and then I'll upgrade. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book On 2012-09-17, at 10:39 AM, viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained!
Teresa, yes I feel exactly the same. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: 17 September 2012 21:05 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained! I'm going to upgrade right away, as well. I'm always curious, and IOS is still the mobile system I know. I'd like to test-drive it and give feedback where it's needed, and I can't do that without upgrading. :) I have my Mac Mini and Itunes if I really need to download an app, and maybe this glitch will cut down on my app-buying spree for a little while. Ha! Take care, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:32 AM, sen...@gmail.com wrote: I love my 4S running IOS 5.1.1 And its a great phone. In fact ever since I started using it, I find that I rarely feel the need to switch on my Mac Air! However, notwithstanding all the negative rumours about IOS 6.0 and Voice Over, I still am going to upgrade to it as soon as it is available! Why? Because I trust that the guys who could give us 5.1.1 can only do better! I can blindly take the chance :) and so will most of you who are reading this!! Just can't wait to upgrade :) watch this space on 19th. I am sure all who have 6.0 will have broad smiles :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The search results will have a heading something like Iphone apps. HtH, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it will update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will be updated on the device as well. Sent from my mac On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi all, I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. Thanks Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there were other issues. So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are blowing smoke. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville Zello: =AnonyMouse= -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that they did. If they were going to go as far as they did, they could at leastmention the areas they were referring to. Let's hope they were blowing smoke and the others are right that there are not other major issues. A few have said there are not. Jim On 9/16/12, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well. However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If the only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use than unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same thing using iTunes. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi, Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't going to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on Wednesday, so for those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me being one of them, there's a chance we won't see improvements until the store changes are completely rolled out. Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable since the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS itself. Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and the
Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?
Hello, here is a video of the accessibility options that will be included in Windows 8, these will work with tablets and the phones. The navigation has changed a little bit scence this video was posted, but accessibility will be greatly improved on all windows platforms. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5-g3Rt3c2Q I hope this video says that windows is a little more serious about accessibility. Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release?
and when will this be available? Sorry and I understand this is not the list for this discussion, but Microsoft has been promising access for blind users now for years and thus far nothing. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed Worrell Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 15:58 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release? Yes you can access the phone, Windows 8 will have a screen reader much like VoiceOver on both there tablet and phone. Ed On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Jesus Garcia jesusga...@gmail.com wrote: Except for one little problem if you are blind you will not have anyway to access the phone. Oh, well just a little miner issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of AppleGourmet Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 13:09 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Windows 8 and Windows phone. Any projected timeline for release? Wow! And best of all the windows eight phone has wireless recharging, microSD card to increase memory by up to 64 GB, and NFC! I suggest you wait. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: failed to backup on i cloud
How much ddata are you trying to back up? Keep in mind that the standard storage space for free is 5 Gigs if you have more than that amount it is not going to let you back it up unless you purchase more storage. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 15:52 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: failed to backup on i cloud Sensitivity: Personal Hi all: I need to backup my I phone via I cloud, and each time I got the message failed to backup, after 65%, but I can see that the last back up is when I made it, Why I can't get the message failed to backup? Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. attachment: winmail.dat
