RE: Replying to An Email With An attachment Question Please.

[sherrywells1157]

Another way to accomplish this is to go ahead & forward the email which will 
keep the attachment.  If you arrow down in the body of the email you will come 
to the to line which contains the list of people who were sent the original 
email.  You could just cut & paste that list into your new email.  Hope I’m 
explaining this well!

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2024 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Replying to An Email With An attachment Question Please.

 

Hi Christopher, 

 

Couldn’t I just select and copy the attachment, instead of using the context 
option?  

I could then just paste the attachment in to the new email. 

  

Thank you.  

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2024 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Replying to An Email With An attachment Question Please.

 

What you’d want to do is to do a reply all and then reattach the attachment. 
You can go into the original email, find the attachment in the list of 
attachments and then use the context menu to find the copy option. After this, 
you can just paste it into the new message. Let me know if you have any more 
questions.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2024 3:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Replying to An Email With An attachment Question Please.

 

Hi Everyone, 

I asked this question just some time ago, and I did get a response, but I need 
to ask this again.  

So when I reply to an email that has an attachment with it, the attachment 
doesn’t go along with the reply, is that right?  

I was told I had to instead reply by forwarding the message  in order to keep 
the attachment attached.  

So for an example I want to reply to an email with an attachment, but I want to 
reply to all 5 people who are included in the email.  

So I would have to forward the message with the attachment, and manually   
enter all 5 names, so that all 5 people will get the email with the attachment 
attached? 

I’m not sure this sounds right.  

Please if someone could give me an answer, I would really appreciate it.  

 

Thank you all. 

 

Janet  

 

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RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[sherrywells1157]

What about podcasts?  I keep seeing references to tv & music but not to 
podcasts.  Will the current version of ITunes support podcasts on a Windows 
computer?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

They are for both windows-11 and 10. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

Those apps are for windows 11, correct? I saw that in the headline of an 
article that I didn’t bother to read. I don’t have 11 and can’t get it on my 
current windows machine, so I’m thinking I will still have iTunes. Fortunately 
I don’t have to use it very much.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Feb 10, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Windows users can now download full versions of the Apple Music and Apple TV 
applications, as well as a new Apple Devices app. They make the venerable 
iTunes app almost obsolete. Read more:

 

 iTunes on its last gasp as Apple TV and Apple Music for Windows leave beta - 
Cult of Mac

 

iTunes for Windows nears End Of Life with launch of Apple Music, TV standalone 
experiences - The Verge 

 

 

 

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RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

[sherrywells1157]

I apologize if this goes to the whole list.  I tried replying directly to 
sender but viphone still showed up instead.

 

Here are a few lists that you may want to try.  

 

Bard Talk

To subscribe, blank email to: bardtalk+subscr...@groups.io

 

Blind Apples

To subscribe blindapples+subscr...@groups.io 
 

 

Blind Cord Cutters

To subscribe : blindcordcutters-requ...@freelists.org 
 

All things tvs

 

Blindtech Q list

To subscribe:    
blindtech-subscr...@blindtech-list.info

I’m not subscribed to this one myself so am not sure if it still exists.

 

Blind Users

Subscribe:  blind-users+subscr...@groups.io 
 

 

DB Review

Subscribe:  db-review+subscr...@groups.io 
 

This is for book reviews of books on BARD.

 

Idevice

To subscribe: idevices+subscr...@groups.io  

For all things concerning any I device

 

JFW Users

Subscribe:    
jfw-users+subscr...@groups.io

 

Tek Talk

Subscribe:  tek-talk-discussion+subscr...@groups.io 
 

 

VICUG-L

Subscribe:   
vicug-l-subscribe-requ...@listserv.icors.org

Visually Impaired Computer Users Group

 

Happy reading!

Sherry Wells

 

From: 'Tanja Biermann' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

 


If you guys know of other mailing lists interesting for blind / visually 
impaired people - please let me know about them. Feel free to contact me 
privately if it's too off-topic here. (Please send the subscription link 
directly in the mail - I often still have troubles in finding the correct 
details on the internet myself).

Thank you so much for your help! 

 

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RE: Menus4ALL - App to be discontinued on Feb 28, 2024

[sherrywells1157]

Yes, this is very sad.  I will miss the app.  

 

I was already billed $32 for an annual subscription.  What can I do to get the 
money back?

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Corey 
Cook
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Menus4ALL - App to be discontinued on Feb 28, 2024

 

This is sad news

 

Corey Cook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Steve Cook
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: FW: Menus4ALL - App to be discontinued on Feb 28, 2024

 

 

 

Steve Cook

You are invited to join us on the 1st and 2nd Friday of each month at 8:00 PM 
Eastern for audio described movies using the below Zoom platform! 

  
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8032543777?pwd=QTVQd2RzN3l6QnNmZ0FmSnp6NG8vQT09

Meeting ID: 803 254 3777

Passcode: 124578

 

From: Helen Fernety mailto:he...@menus4all.com> > 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 11:37 PM
To: Brandon Foshee mailto:brandonfoshe...@yahoo.com> >; Paul Herman mailto:pau...@msn.com> >; Stephanie Jones mailto:stepha...@menus4all.com> >; kirkadams...@gmail.com 
 ; Everette Bacon mailto:evere...@aira.io> >; Troy Otillio mailto:t...@aira.io> 
>; Anne Marie mailto:purposeinv...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Menus4ALL - App to be discontinued on Feb 28, 2024

 

Dear Menus4ALL customers and supporters,

 

It is with heavy hearts that Stephanie and I announce the discontinuation of 
the iPhone Menus4ALL app effective February 28, 2024. 

 

Over the past year, we have been proud to offer over 1,000,000 US and 80,000 
Canadian accessible restaurant menus to our customers. We believe that our app 
has not only increased independence but also added joy to special occasions, 
such as dates, holidays, anniversaries, and birthdays at restaurants. 
Unfortunately, due to low sales, we can no longer provide this service. 

 

However, we remain hopeful that someone else will create a similar app to 
support the accessibility needs of our customers. As an alternative, we 
recommend using Aira   and Be My AI 
  to fulfill your 
accessible restaurant menu needs. 


 

If you have an annual subscription, please feel free to cancel. If you have a 
monthly subscription, Apple will not bill you any further. As we are a vendor 
of Apple, everything must be handled through your App Store account. 

 

To learn more visit our website  . Thank you for 
supporting this groundbreaking product, 

 


Helen Fernety (she, her) 

CEO

Menus4ALL, Inc.

501-590-6723

Book a meeting  

 

 



 

Changing lives one menu at a time for folks with blindness and visual 
impairments

 

  Menus4All.com |   
Instagram | Facebook   | YouTube 
 

Menus4ALL, Inc.  | 2074 Hallwood Drive, Memphis,  TN 38107

 

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RE: for emails on this group.

[sherrywells1157]

No need to change your email address.  Just add your email groups to your 
contacts list.  Here’s another thing you can do:

- right click on the email in your junk folder

- arrow down to rules & right arrow to get the sub menu

- one of the options should be move item to your email address, click on this 
one

- this moves the particular email to your in box & should signal that future 
emails from this sender should go to the in box.

 

HTH,

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: for emails on this group.

 

Hey Alvin, the same thing for this one. I recommend completely changing your 
email address.

Joseph Hudson

 

EmailFaceTime/iMessage

jhud7...@twc.com  

Connect with me on zoom

 

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On Nov 8, 2023, at 5:41 PM, alban hoxha mailto:albanhoxha1...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hello. some emails from this group come to my inbox, some to junk. how to solve 
this problem?

 

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RE: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

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Thanks to all for letting me know I can’t get screen recognition on my IPhone 
8.  I don’t think it would solve my problem with the intercom app anyway as the 
app won’t work with voice over on.  I probably need to get a more current phone 
but hate to buy something new when my IPhone 8 is working perfectly well.

 

Has anyone used the Ring Doorbell system?  I’d hate to recommend it only to 
have it not work either.

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mo Khan
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

hi how about the ring door bell system?

 

On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 9:50 PM mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> > 
wrote:

Hi if you have a I phone 8 I don’t think it is on there I think you would need 
a new phone since I also have the same phone and don’t have this feture on my 
phone. From Mich.

 

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sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: August 22, 2023 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

I am definitely talking to my apartment management & their IT person.

 

Meanwhile, I do not have screen recognition turned on.  I’m not sure it will 
help as it seems I have to have voice over off before the intercom app will 
open once I’ve answered the phone.  I’d like to try it though.  Where can I 
find it to turn it on?  I looked through accessibility & didn’t find it.  I did 
a search for screen recognition under settings & it sent me to quick settings 
voice over.  I didn’t find it there either.  I am using an IPhone 8 with 
current IOS, 16.6.  

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

Have you tried to turn on screen recognition to see if that helps with the app?

You should also tell your apartment management they should put pressure on the 
developer to make the app more accessible, you can also contact them yourself, 
but it wouldn't hurt if they did as well. Hopefully the developer is receptive 
and willing to do this.

As for suggesting another app that really is not possible if you don't know the 
system and what works with it. I would request a meeting with whoever is in 
charge of this type of stuff from your management company to discuss and 
explore options.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 7:20 AM
To: 'VIPhone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

Hello,

 

My apartment management recently switched to a new app for use with our 
intercom system.  With the old app, a person would punch in your apartment 
number, your phone would ring, you would answer & see who it was then press 9 
to trigger the door to unlock.  Apparently this system was quite old & I am 
told they could not enter any new numbers into the system.  The new app, called 
AIPHONE IXG, is not accessible.  It only gets a 2 star rating so am not sure 
why they chose it.  In order to use it, I have to turn voice over off.  Luckily 
I can see enough to hit the answer phone button.  Then I have to tap on 2 more 
things then slide a door icon over to trigger the door to unlock.  I cannot see 
well enough to tap on the 2 places needed to get to the door icon.  Does anyone 
know of an accessible intercom app I can suggest to management?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

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RE: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

[sherrywells1157]

I am definitely talking to my apartment management & their IT person.

 

Meanwhile, I do not have screen recognition turned on.  I’m not sure it will 
help as it seems I have to have voice over off before the intercom app will 
open once I’ve answered the phone.  I’d like to try it though.  Where can I 
find it to turn it on?  I looked through accessibility & didn’t find it.  I did 
a search for screen recognition under settings & it sent me to quick settings 
voice over.  I didn’t find it there either.  I am using an IPhone 8 with 
current IOS, 16.6.  

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

Have you tried to turn on screen recognition to see if that helps with the app?

You should also tell your apartment management they should put pressure on the 
developer to make the app more accessible, you can also contact them yourself, 
but it wouldn't hurt if they did as well. Hopefully the developer is receptive 
and willing to do this.

As for suggesting another app that really is not possible if you don't know the 
system and what works with it. I would request a meeting with whoever is in 
charge of this type of stuff from your management company to discuss and 
explore options.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 7:20 AM
To: 'VIPhone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

Hello,

 

My apartment management recently switched to a new app for use with our 
intercom system.  With the old app, a person would punch in your apartment 
number, your phone would ring, you would answer & see who it was then press 9 
to trigger the door to unlock.  Apparently this system was quite old & I am 
told they could not enter any new numbers into the system.  The new app, called 
AIPHONE IXG, is not accessible.  It only gets a 2 star rating so am not sure 
why they chose it.  In order to use it, I have to turn voice over off.  Luckily 
I can see enough to hit the answer phone button.  Then I have to tap on 2 more 
things then slide a door icon over to trigger the door to unlock.  I cannot see 
well enough to tap on the 2 places needed to get to the door icon.  Does anyone 
know of an accessible intercom app I can suggest to management?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

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Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

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Hello,

 

My apartment management recently switched to a new app for use with our
intercom system.  With the old app, a person would punch in your apartment
number, your phone would ring, you would answer & see who it was then press
9 to trigger the door to unlock.  Apparently this system was quite old & I
am told they could not enter any new numbers into the system.  The new app,
called AIPHONE IXG, is not accessible.  It only gets a 2 star rating so am
not sure why they chose it.  In order to use it, I have to turn voice over
off.  Luckily I can see enough to hit the answer phone button.  Then I have
to tap on 2 more things then slide a door icon over to trigger the door to
unlock.  I cannot see well enough to tap on the 2 places needed to get to
the door icon.  Does anyone know of an accessible intercom app I can suggest
to management?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

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RE: Important, No Text Verifications

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Would you mind sharing who your carrier is?  I'm asking so others who have the 
same carrier can keep this in mind.

Sherry Wells

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2023 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Important, No Text Verifications


Solved my issue.

It was my carrier.  For some reason they blocked those verification text 
messages.  All is back working like it should.  The representative said that it 
should never happen again, but I am not holding my breath!

Thanks to those who tried to help.

Chris


> On Mar 4, 2023, at 9:17 AM, Rob Armstrong  wrote:
> 
> On most sites, you can choose to receive the verification code by text 
> message or email.  You usually have to indicate every time you log in whether 
> you want the code sent by text message or email.  After you do everything to 
> send the verification code by text message, do you find the edit box to enter 
> the verification code?  That is your confirmation that the text message was 
> sent.
> 
> Here are a few questions to help diagnose the problem.  You have probably 
> already checked most of these.
> 
> Have you looked at the messages app to see if the message arrived?  If it did 
> arrive, you may have the sounds muted or the text alert tone volume turned 
> down.  The text message alert may have been turned off.  This could possibly 
> happen during an iOS update.
> 
> Do you receive text messages from other people?
> 
> Rob
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
> Chaffin
> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2023 8:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Important, No Text Verifications
> 
> Hi,
> 
> All of a sudden, I am not able to receive verification codes for logging into 
> websites like for banking. At first, I thought it might be an issue with the 
> website, but this happens to me on multiple sites.
> 
> These sites do not have apps to access your information, so I am forced to go 
> through their site. And without being able to receive the verification codes, 
> I can not access my accounts. Again, this is on multiple sites.
> 
> This is what I have tried so far.
> 1, Restarting my iPhone.
> 2, Doing a forced restart of my iPhone.
> 3, Made sure both sms and mms are turned on in the settings.
> 4, Checked to make sure the numbers are not in my block list. Actually at 
> this moment, I have no numbers in my block list.
> 5, Reset my network settings.
> 6, Made sure I have both wi-fi and cell connections.
> 
> These sites send you a verification code by text and that is how you finish 
> the log in process. And the text message is the only choice.
> 
> I am out of ideas, so I wanted to see if anyone else ever had this issue, or 
> if anyone had any ideas of what else it could be. Getting on to these sites 
> are important, so any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> By the way, I am running 16.3 on an Iphone 14 Pro.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris
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RE: Ciri Responding Oddly When Asked to Call Someone

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Hi Shirley,

 

Someone suggested that I wait a couple seconds before saying call person A.  
This has worked perfectly.  I only get the what do you want to know about 
person A if I say call person A too quickly.

 

HTH,

Sherry 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
manyofus1...@outlook.com
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 5:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ciri Responding Oddly When Asked to Call Someone

 

Sherry,

I am also having this problem. I wondered why it was happening, I’m not sure 
when it started for me, but now if I ask siri to call person X most of the time 
she says what do you want to know about person X? So annoying!

Shirley

 

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sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: 11 February 2023 15:29
To: 'VIPhone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Ciri Responding Oddly When Asked to Call Someone

 

Hello,

 

I have an IPhone 8 & am current on IOS.  Ever since updating IOS, I frequently 
get an odd response when I ask Ciri to call someone in my contacts list.  I 
will say call person X & she will say what do you want to know about person X.  
This may happen several times before I give up & open the contact to tap on the 
phone # to call them.  Even funnier, I have a sister-in-law named Mickie who is 
on my VIP contact list & is my ICE contact.  Today when I asked Ciri to call 
her I got a web site telling me who Mickey Mouse was.  This happened a couple 
of times.  I obviously have tried speaking very clearly to no avail.  It is not 
the end of the world to have to open the contacts to make a call but I’d rather 
have the convenience of just saying call person.  Is anyone else having this 
problem?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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Ciri Responding Oddly When Asked to Call Someone

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Hello,

 

I have an IPhone 8 & am current on IOS.  Ever since updating IOS, I
frequently get an odd response when I ask Ciri to call someone in my
contacts list.  I will say call person X & she will say what do you want to
know about person X.  This may happen several times before I give up & open
the contact to tap on the phone # to call them.  Even funnier, I have a
sister-in-law named Mickie who is on my VIP contact list & is my ICE
contact.  Today when I asked Ciri to call her I got a web site telling me
who Mickey Mouse was.  This happened a couple of times.  I obviously have
tried speaking very clearly to no avail.  It is not the end of the world to
have to open the contacts to make a call but I'd rather have the convenience
of just saying call person.  Is anyone else having this problem?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: Multiple Text Messages Not Showing Up on Entry Screen

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Thanks for this info Mark!  My display as was set to count.  I tried changing 
it to stacked but hadn't received multiple texts yet to test it.  Now I have 
changed it to list.  I also made the other change you suggested so all should 
be fine now.  

Thanks again!
Sherry Wells

As for the second part of your directions, under messages, I cannot find 
anything that says 

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Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2023 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Multiple Text Messages Not Showing Up on Entry Screen

Hello Sherry,

Did you get your problem resolved?

I think I understand your question.  

So, since updating to iOS 16.x, you have noticed a difference in the way SMS 
notifications are appearing on the lock screen of your iPhone 8, right?

You want to see SMS notifications appear in a list view, on the lock screen, 
rather than seeing only the latest SMS notification, only.

You may adjust how SMS notifications are displayed on the lock screen by doing 
the following:

1.
>From the Settings area, select Notifications.

2.
In the Display As, section, located near the top of the resulting dialog box, 
select List.

3.
Select Messages.

4.
In the Notification Grouping area, select, Off.

Mark

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Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 5:55 AM
To: 'VIPhone' 
Subject: Multiple Text Messages Not Showing Up on Entry Screen

Hello,

I am using an IPhone 8.  I was a few versions behind on IOS so updated to the 
current version recently.  In the past when I got a text message, it showed up 
at the top of the entry screen right under the time.  If I got more than one 
message, the first one would move down & the second one would be above it etc.  
Now a text shows up at the bottom of the screen.  That is no problem.  When I 
get more than one text though, only one shows up & I have to open the text app 
to read the rest.  This is annoying & takes a bit more time.  It was so 
convenient to just have all the texts on the entry screen.  Does anyone know of 
a setting I can change to allow multiple texts to show up on the entry screen?  
Or even a way to swipe to hear all the messages.  I’ve looked around & tried 
various swipes but no luck.

Thanks,
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Sorry for Duplicate Message

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Sigh, I didn't see my message to this list in the sent folder so sent it
again.  Then of course both messages were in the sent folder.  Sorry about
that.

 

Sherry Wells

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Multiple Text Messages Not Showing Up on Entry Screen

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Hello,

 

I am using an IPhone 8.  I was a few versions behind on IOS so updated to
the current version recently.  In the past when I got a text message, it
showed up at the top of the entry screen right under the time.  If I got
more than one message, the first one would move down & the second one would
be above it etc.  Now a text shows up at the bottom of the screen.  That is
no problem.  When I get more than one text though, only one shows up & I
have to open the text app to read the rest.  This is annoying & takes a bit
more time.  It was so convenient to just have all the texts on the entry
screen.  Does anyone know of a setting I can change to allow multiple texts
to show up on the entry screen?  Or even a way to swipe to hear all the
messages.  I've looked around & tried various swipes but no luck.

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells 

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Text Messages Not All Showing on Main Screen

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Hello,

 

I am using an IPhone 8.  I was several versions of IOS behind & recently
updated to the current version.  In the past, text messages I would receive
would show up on my screen right below the time.  If I got a second message,
the first one would move down & the second would be above it.  Same with a
third message etc.  I never had to go to the main screen or the text app.
Now if I get a message, it is at the bottom of the screen.  That is no
problem.  The problem is if I get a second message there is no way to read
the first one except to open the text app & read it there.  This is very
annoying as sometimes I get 3 or 4 texts at nearly the same time.  It used
to be so easy to read them all.  Is there some setting I can change so that
the text messages all show up on the entry screen so I don't have to open
anything?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells 

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RE: Wordle is accessible without a plug-in

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Holly,

I play Wordle every day on my Windows 10 computer using Chrome.  I had no 
problem adding the extension.  When you open the game, you do have to tab to 
get to the keyboard.  Then you just arrow to the letter you want & hit enter.  
When you hit the enter key on the keyboard to try your word, Jaws reads each 
letter & whether it is absent, present or correct.  You can go to the top of 
the screen & arrow through your choices if you want to double check where a 
letter was not in the right spot.  Here are the links again to get Wordle 
started using Chrome.

Link to add extension
www.minorninth.github.io
Link to play game:
www.nytimes.com

Happy playing!
Sherry Wells
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Brendan:

I have a Windows 10 PC using JAWS.

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Message Icon Says Has Alert

[sherrywells1157]

Hello,

 

I have an IPhone 8.  Just today when I touch the messages icon on the main
screen it says messages, has alert.  I have no idea what this means or what
could have triggered it to be there.  I have not received any unusual texts
that would be considered alerts.  Any ideas on what this is & how I can get
rid of it?

 

Thanks,

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RE: Embarrassing question.

[sherrywells1157]

I agree with Nimer.   The original poster asked nicely & would presumably be 
using his IPhone for the dating web site.  How is this any different than 
asking for any other accessible web site.  Good greif, wanting to ban someone 
for asking this question is a ridiculous overreaction.

 

Sherry Wells

“Let’s make stupid embarrassing again”

Rex W. Huppke

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 3:07 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Embarrassing question.

 

Well, I personally don't see the issue with someone asking about an accessible 
dating app for use with their phones here. Moreover, rules or not, someone was 
vulnerable enough to come on here and admit to being lonely. It seems that the 
least we can do, as human beings, is offer help or support. I should say that I 
don't know who this person is, and I'm not sure I would come on here and admit 
these feelings... if I was feeling that way, I wouldn't be that brave. I might, 
however, consider the fact that the best way to find someone is likely going to 
be through common activities, and probably offline. I would also hope that men 
feeling things like this aren't out to objectify women, that they aren't out to 
find someone just to alleviate loneliness, but I'm not them. And, of course, 
any moderator of this list can do whatever they wish to about this thread.

 

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 12:00 PM Jenny Bomareto 
mailto:jennybomareto.from.flor...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The original poster regarding this topic should be very embarrassed as this is 
the wrong group to be talking about stuff like this even though I’m not the 
moderator of the group this is horrible stuff.  In my opinion I think the 
original poster that posted that’s been talking about all this should be 
blocked so he’s not allowed to send any email.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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RE: Creating a text group message

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I have used ABC Groups to do this.  It is free & accessible.  Once open, there 
is an add button at the top right.  You will be put in an edit box & asked for 
a name for the group.  Once you type that in, hit the save button at the top 
right.  Now you are in your contact list.  Just tap the contacts you want to 
add to the list & they are added.  When done, hit the save button on the top 
right & you have your group.  Unfortunately you cannot use Ciri to dictate a 
message to the group.  You have to open ABC Groups & send it there.  I'd love 
to find a way to create a group such that I could just ask Ciri to send a 
message to the group.

Sherry Wells
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Rex W. Huppke



-Original Message-
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Yah, me, three!

Karen


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I'd like to know that one too. 

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Does anyone know if you can create a group list on the iphone to send text 
messages to, and how you do it?

 

Denise

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RE: Aira and Be my eyes

[sherrywells1157]

I used to use Aira for 5 minutes regularly.  I haven't been able to get through 
for months though.  You now get a message saying high call volume & premier 
customers get priority.  So it appears the 5 minute free calls a day will no 
longer work.  I can't blame them; they need the money to pay their staff.  I 
have been using Be My Eyes instead & for what I need they have been great.

Sherry Wells
“Let’s make stupid embarrassing again”
Rex W. Huppke

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I would say as far as Aira and Be my eyes, it all depends on what you are doing.

Keep in mind that Aira agents are sitting at a computer and have access to many 
tools like maps of your surroundings, airports that you might be at, and many 
other toolsbe like being able to use your camera to take a picture of something 
that has extremely small writing and for some reason is hard to scan with 
Seeing eye.  Also, like Richard said, Aira agents are bonded and are under a 
privacy NDA.  So they can help you read numbers of a credit card, information 
from a bill, or any other personal information. Aira agents can also help you 
with task or problems you are trying to do on your computer by the use of team 
viewer.  And lets not forget that Aira has many free ways of using their 
service.  Non paying members can use one 5 minute call a day for free, plus you 
can use Aira for free if you are at any of their sponsored locations;  like 
Walgreens for example' or if you are having a problem with Jaws.  And just in 
case anyone is wondering, the majority of my calls with Aira are less than 5 
minutes.  They are very quick and efficient in how they help you.

Now, Be My Eyes is a great service, especially for those small quick task, like 
identifying objects, maybe finding something you dropped on the floor, locating 
a door, Reading a computer screen, etc.  But I would not ask Be My Eyes to help 
me with anything personal, like my mail, bills, etc.

I do personally use both services, and I think they both provide a great 
service.  Just like in any situation, what tool I use depends on what I am 
currently trying to accomplish.

Hope this helps.

Chris


> On May 9, 2022, at 10:26 AM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
> 
> Actually, Aira agents are paid. Being trained and bonded sets them apart for 
> me.
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn May 9, 2022 8:44 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> I use be my eyes all the time.  It is a great app.  If I need to find 
>> out what a can of soup is or something like that, it is great.  I've 
>> never used IRA before.  I like be my eyes because it is totally free.
>> I don't see what is so special about so called trained volunteers 
>> anyway.  The folks at be my eyes have always been very helpful and 
>> more then able to help me.  I don't think I've had a bad experience 
>> with any volunteer I've had.
>> 
>>> On 5/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote: 
>>> AIRA agents are trained and as I understand it, bonded; so it is 
>>> said to be safe having them assist with confidential information.
>>> Be My Eyes are untrained, well-meaning, volunteers. 
>>> I would never use Be My Eyes for help with a bank statement for example. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
>>> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 9, 2022, at 5:23 AM, Marcos Rodrigues 
 
 wrote: 
 
 Good morning. 
 
 What are the advantages of Aira over be my eyes? 
 
 I started paying more attention to be my eyes and realised it has 
 the same functionalities of Aira with no cost.
 
 Regards. 
 
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RE: How to Increase Volume of Text Notification Sound

[sherrywells1157]

They are the default notification sounds.  Alan Lemley very helpfully pointed 
me to the right place in settings to set the notification sounds to 100%.  For 
some reason I had seen that but thought it was for all sound, not just 
notifications.  So better now.  If I continue not to notice the text 
notifications I’ll just have to switch the sound to a siren!

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

“Let’s make stupid embarrassing again”

Rex W. Huppke

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Increase Volume of Text Notification Sound

 

I’m late into this thread, are these stock tones that came on the phone or 
custom tones you have added?

 

Do you have audio ducking turned on?

 

 

 

Richard

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 9:59 AM
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Subject: RE: How to Increase Volume of Text Notification Sound
Importance: High

 

What’s interesting to note here, is that when I use my Air Pods Pro, my 
notification sounds are perfectly loud enough.  But when not using my Air Pods 
with my iPhone 13 Pro Max, latest IOS update installed, notification sounds do 
seem a bit lower than what they should be, even with volume at 100%.  I’ve just 
learned to compensate for it, but that’s just me.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How to Increase Volume of Text Notification Sound

 

My wife has a door bell sound, and it is very loud. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:36 PM
To: 'VIPhone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: How to Increase Volume of Text Notification Sound

 

Hello,

 

I have an IPhone 8 & am current on IOS.  My volume is fine & easily adjusted 
except for the text notification sound.  At times it will be fine then it will 
suddenly be quite soft such that I don’t notice when I get a text.  Everything 
else has the volume I want.  I even turned the volume up louder than I want 
thinking it would fix the text notification sound but no luck.  I have looked 
through settings & found no way to just adjust the text notification sound.  I 
looked at choosing some different sounds for this notification but none of them 
are as loud as I’d like.  I have not found a pattern in what seems to cause the 
notification sound to go down in volume as much of the time it is fine.  

 

Any ideas on how I can increase the text notification sound?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

“Let’s make stupid embarrassing again”

Rex W. Huppke

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How to Increase Volume of Text Notification Sound

[sherrywells1157]

Hello,

 

I have an IPhone 8 & am current on IOS.  My volume is fine & easily adjusted
except for the text notification sound.  At times it will be fine then it
will suddenly be quite soft such that I don't notice when I get a text.
Everything else has the volume I want.  I even turned the volume up louder
than I want thinking it would fix the text notification sound but no luck.
I have looked through settings & found no way to just adjust the text
notification sound.  I looked at choosing some different sounds for this
notification but none of them are as loud as I'd like.  I have not found a
pattern in what seems to cause the notification sound to go down in volume
as much of the time it is fine.  

 

Any ideas on how I can increase the text notification sound?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

"Let's make stupid embarrassing again"

Rex W. Huppke

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RE: 911 Calling Help Please.

[sherrywells1157]

I’m surprised the police did not come anyway.  I think they should have.  My 
computer once accidentally dialed 911 & even though I called to say it was a 
mistake, the police came.  They said that someone could have forced me to call 
& say all was fine.  

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rebecca 
Degeorge
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 7:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 911 Calling Help Please.

 

if you accidentally get into your Health app and tap something that might call 
911 also, I think that if you accidentally hold down or squeeze the phone so 
that with the volume button on the left side and the on off button on the right 
side are depressed that also will call 911. Maybe it would be good to call 
Apple support and ask about that? Glad things are going well again. The number 
is 877-204-3930.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 16, 2022, at 4:27 PM, Gordon mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com> > wrote:

 

I've never heard of an iPhone randomly calling emergency services. Do you have 
Hey siri turned on where the phone might have heard something that might have 
made it dial? I have asked Siri a question totally unrelated and it thought I 
wanted to dial 911. 

On 1/16/2022 6:15 PM, janet gross wrote:

Sieghard, 

I forgot to answer when you asked me about what happens when I used my 
Bluetooth Ear Pods ,  The Bluetooth Ear Pods did connect, but I still couldn’t 
hear anything through the phone.  

 

Janet 

Janet  

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel  
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 5:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: 911 Calling Help Please.

 

All iPhones until I think the iPhone 12 came with wired Earpods. If you still 
have the original box you might want to check as they might be in there. I find 
it is virtually essential to have a set of these Earpods around even if it is 
just for such situations. Anyways, what happens if you use your Bluetooth 
headset, do you get anything there?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: January 16, 2022 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: 911 Calling Help Please.

 

Hi, 

No my XR phone didn’t come with Headphones though, as I usually use Bluetooth 
Headphones.  

 

Janet  

 

Sent from Mail 

  for Windows

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel  
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 4:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: 911 Calling Help Please.

 

Do you have the Earpods which came with your phone?

I assume the volume has gotten turned down all the way, try to plug in a 
headset and see if you can hear Voiceover.

If you can then make sure your phone is unlocked and on the home screen and 
Voiceover of course is working with the headset. Then unplug the headset and 
press the volume up button repeatedly like maybe 5 or 6 times and if this is 
the issue you should hear Voiceover volume coming back up after the first 2 or 
3 presses.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: January 16, 2022 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: 911 Calling Help Please.

 

Hi Everyone, 

I was just sitting at my Computer, and I had my phone sitting on my Computer 
desk, and for some strange reason my phone started dialing 911 emergency.  911 
Emergency called me back 3 times, but I couldn’t answer the phone.  I used my 
Magic Jack phone to call 911 to let them know I am ok.  I tried to stop the 
Phone from calling, but I can’t hear Voiceover.  I pressed the volume button 
up, I tried 3 finger tapping to turn Voiceover back on, but I still can’t hear 
anything at all, except when I turn the phone off I can hear the sound when I 
usually turn off the Phone, or when I plug the charger in to the phone. I can’t 
get in touch with Siri either.  I  have an iPhone XR with the latest iOS.  Can 
someone please tell me what I might do to get Voiceover to start talking.  

 

Thank you all in advance. 

 

Janet 

 

Sent from Mail 

RE: Amazon

[sherrywells1157]

I meant that Amazon on a computer will remember you so that you don't have to 
log in.  Like some others, I much prefer to just use Amazon on the computer.  
Of course reordering things is easiest with the Echo as all you have to do is 
to say reorder x then say buy it now once it is in the cart.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

Sherry, yes that was one of the things that I did. All that Amazon did was go 
back to the app. So, even the website wasn’t working correctly. Good idea 
though. Just didn’t work.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Oct 20, 2021, at 9:07 AM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com wrote:

Amazon on the computer can also remember who you are so you don't have to log 
in.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 3:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

Both are equally important to me, my iPhone and my computer. But I've found the 
recent problems with using Amazon on my iPhone really frustrtating as I'm 
starting my Christmas shopping early with surgery just around the corner.
I can use the computer, of course, but using the iPhone with Amazon is quicker 
and simpler as it remembers who I am, and I don't need to log in, and I can 
just use my fingerprint to confirm an order.
Alison
I like to use Amazon on my iPhone as it is quicker and simpler, not needing to 
log 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 20 October 2021 03:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

I realize that this might be the case for some people which is why I said " if 
you have a computer with Jaws or NVDA why not use it" and not "why not just use 
your computer with Jaws or NVDA".
I would definitely not want to be without my iPhone, but at the same time I 
also would never consider not having a computer, there are way too many tasks I 
do where the computer is 10 times more efficient and quick.
A few examples for me are creating and working with Excel, Writing and 
especially editing longer passages of text, doing serious web browsing and also 
my online banking since I prefer to print all confirmations for bill payments 
and such to PDF files for archiving and while I could take a screenshot of a 
confirmation page with the iPhone, it's just not quite the same and the 
resulting file would not be accessible unless I performed OCR on it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go to 
a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer 
> with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can 
> search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding items 
> to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as address 
> and credit card are the same and you select to remember that checking out 
> using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means you use the button 
> quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase button and activate it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates: 
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> who do. -Steve Jobs 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
>> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
>> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
>> 

RE: Amazon

[sherrywells1157]

Amazon on the computer can also remember who you are so you don't have to log 
in.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 3:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

Both are equally important to me, my iPhone and my computer. But I've found the 
recent problems with using Amazon on my iPhone really frustrtating as I'm 
starting my Christmas shopping early with surgery just around the corner.
I can use the computer, of course, but using the iPhone with Amazon is quicker 
and simpler as it remembers who I am, and I don't need to log in, and I can 
just use my fingerprint to confirm an order.
Alison
I like to use Amazon on my iPhone as it is quicker and simpler, not needing to 
log 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 20 October 2021 03:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

I realize that this might be the case for some people which is why I said " if 
you have a computer with Jaws or NVDA why not use it" and not "why not just use 
your computer with Jaws or NVDA".
I would definitely not want to be without my iPhone, but at the same time I 
also would never consider not having a computer, there are way too many tasks I 
do where the computer is 10 times more efficient and quick.
A few examples for me are creating and working with Excel, Writing and 
especially editing longer passages of text, doing serious web browsing and also 
my online banking since I prefer to print all confirmations for bill payments 
and such to PDF files for archiving and while I could take a screenshot of a 
confirmation page with the iPhone, it's just not quite the same and the 
resulting file would not be accessible unless I performed OCR on it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go to 
a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer 
> with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can 
> search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding items 
> to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as address 
> and credit card are the same and you select to remember that checking out 
> using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means you use the button 
> quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase button and activate it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates: 
> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
> who do. -Steve Jobs 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
>> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
>> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
>> gone.
>> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
>> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
>> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
>> Does anyone have any advice?
>> Thanks
>> Richard 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

[sherrywells1157]

Yes, sorry - I should have said the 3 finger double tap just turned off speech 
not Voice Over.  When wanting to silence my phone while in a meeting or class, 
this plus flipping the mute button to mute is all I need do to not be 
interrupted.  I like the fact that the phone will still vibrate letting me know 
I've gotten a call or text that will need to be checked later.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

Hi.
The three finger double tap does not turn off voiceover, it just mutes the 
speech. The phone will still behave although voiceover is on, it just doesn't 
speak.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: October 4, 2021 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

I do that too, but the three-finger double-tap turns off Speech, not VoiceOver. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

I find the easiest thing to do to silence one’s phone is to first flip the 
switch to mute then do a 3 finger double tap to turn off voice over.  I find 
this much easier than changing a setting.  When out of the meeting, simply do 
another 3 finger double tap to turn voice over back on & flip the mute switch 
to unmute.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 8:59 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

 

I find if I’m in a meeting or gathering where I don’t want to get notifications 
on my phone,

I open control panel and hit airplane mode.

 

That way no notifications when I don’t need them.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, 4 October 2021 12:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

 

It also sounds like the VoiceOver setting to speak all notifications is on.

Go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Verbosity, and turn off Always Speak 
Notifications.

 

The other options are very good as well.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Wendy Lin
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

 

Yeah I don’t blame you. I tend to mute my phone, turn off the speech and turn 
on screen curtain on my phone. I just find I have the best privacy that way.

 

 

On Oct 3, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

You could go in to notifications and turn them off for things that are 
appearing on the lock screen.

That’s probably the safer option other than turn vo off or down in 
those situations.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
Sent: Monday, 4 October 2021 11:53 am
To: IPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

 

Hi,

 

Since I updated my phone, an older SE, when I mute the phone with the 
side switch, it will vibrate as usual when a message or alert comes in, but it 
also speaks exactly what's coming in on the screen rather than remaining silent 
as before. Any place I need to change a setting to make it mute VO like it used 
to when the phone is muted?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

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RE: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

[sherrywells1157]

I find the easiest thing to do to silence one’s phone is to first flip the 
switch to mute then do a 3 finger double tap to turn off voice over.  I find 
this much easier than changing a setting.  When out of the meeting, simply do 
another 3 finger double tap to turn voice over back on & flip the mute switch 
to unmute.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 8:59 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

 

I find if I’m in a meeting or gathering where I don’t want to get notifications 
on my phone,

I open control panel and hit airplane mode.

 

That way no notifications when I don’t need them.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, 4 October 2021 12:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

 

It also sounds like the VoiceOver setting to speak all notifications is on.

Go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Verbosity, and turn off Always Speak 
Notifications.

 

The other options are very good as well.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Wendy Lin
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

 

Yeah I don’t blame you. I tend to mute my phone, turn off the speech and turn 
on screen curtain on my phone. I just find I have the best privacy that way.

 

 

On Oct 3, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

You could go in to notifications and turn them off for things that are 
appearing on the lock screen.

That’s probably the safer option other than turn vo off or down in those 
situations.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
Sent: Monday, 4 October 2021 11:53 am
To: IPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

 

Hi,

 

Since I updated my phone, an older SE, when I mute the phone with the side 
switch, it will vibrate as usual when a message or alert comes in, but it also 
speaks exactly what's coming in on the screen rather than remaining silent as 
before. Any place I need to change a setting to make it mute VO like it used to 
when the phone is muted?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

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RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

[sherrywells1157]

Socialized medicine?  We don’t have that in the US.  Our insurance companies 
determine need for hospitalization & length of stay in the hospital as well as 
drug choices based on what they are willing to cover.  Nothing to do with 
socialized medicine.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

yes!  You need to be a good self advocate and have a doctor who will cooperate. 
I know someone who even though he is on insulin, had to fight with Kaiser for a 
year before they would provide it for him.  These are the consequences of 
socialized medicine where bean counters can overrule doctors and patients.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: 'Nicki Keck' via VIPhone   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 1:21 PM

Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

The doctor got it for my husband before he got on insulin. He wanted to monitor 
it before the insulin started so we would know how the sugars were running and 
how much insulin to prescribe. He had to talk to the insurance person to 
finally get it approved. It's not easy to get it if you are not on insulin. 
It's possible but not easy. I think part of the reason we got it for my husband 
is because it was clear he was going to be going on insulin.  We monitored it, 
went to the doctor, showed him the app, which he was absolutely fascinated 
with, by the way, and now he is on the insulin so we shouldn't have trouble 
keeping it covered. We did give them the argument of blindness and difficulty 
monitoring sugars with conventional meters, but even that argument didn't work 
right away. 

Nicki





On Sep 25, 2021, at 12:25 PM, Robert stigile mailto:rnstechnol...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, it’s Robert.

So, you need to have your doctor tell them that you do not need insulin but in 
order to keep your blood sugars in tight control you need to freestyle libre 
patches.

Your doctor will need to submit reports every three months to let them know 
that you are still not using insulin but that your blood sugars are in tighter 
control by using the free style libre patch.

Also, your doctor needs to submit a report stating that due to your blindness 
you’re not able to test using a meter as well due to not getting enough blood 
on the strips. That is what my doctor has told Abbott and they are fine with 
that.

You just have to have your doctor keep pushing it.

Good luck! 

 

Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President 

National Federation of the Blind of California

President San Fernando Valley Chapter

818-381-9568

 





On Sep 25, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Bob; I am having a terrible time getting the freestyle libre. They keep 
telling me that I need to be on insulin. Three doctors have tried to get this 
for me through my medical plan and Medicare part B to no success. Please help? 
Thank you Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!





On Sep 25, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Robert stigile mailto:rnstechnol...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

First, no you do not need to be on insulin do use the Libre, as I am not using 
insulin and I have the libre sensors.

My doctor was able to get the Libre for me because I said I wanted to have 
better control of my diabetes and I can’t do that because it’s difficult to get 
blood test since I can’t see it all and it’s hard to get enough blood on the 
strip using a meter.

Secondly when you are using the app on iPhone to check your readings with the 
Libre patch you need to put the top of the phone against the patch and then it 
will scan it and give you your readings. Again, you need to touch the top of 
the foam to the patch.

I hope this helps. 

 

Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President 

National Federation of the Blind of California

President San Fernando Valley Chapter

818-381-9568

 





On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:57 AM, Lynn White mailto:lynnwhite...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Linda, 

My understanding is that you have to be on insulin. But to be safe, I would 
either check with the insurance company or your doctor.

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Lynda Ingraham mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Vivian Conger mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks Everyone,

Well I’m still not able to scan the sensor with my phone and think that yes I 
may have to wait until I apply a new sensor and then use my Libre 2 app to 
activate it.

I even tried having the reader more than 20 feet away from me and my phone 
thinking the phone might work if the reader was out-of-range.  Didn’t make a 
difference.  

The sensor is for 14 days and the screen specifically says the reader is Libre 
2.  Using iPhone SE 2020 and IOS 14.8.

So for now I will 

RE: keeping track of which books are on which app

[sherrywells1157]

I’d add a tab to your current spreadsheet to list downloaded books with a 
column as to where they are.  Then when you finish one, you simply move that 
row to the done tab.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 11:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: keeping track of which books are on which app

 

Hi,

Probably my favorite reason for having an iPhone  is the plethora of accessible 
books  across so many apps.  Of course, that also means that I have books in 
various apps and I’m now finding that I can easily  lose track of where a  book 
is.  To be more specific, I have Audible, Kindle, Voice Dream Reader, Christian 
Audio, Chirp  and BARD.  I’ve occasionally found that I’ve almost purchased a 
book in Audible,  forgetting that I had already found it on BARD.  Or, I 
download a book someone recommends to me or that I find on sale, then forget 
which app it’s in.   Some of  you talk about having hundreds of books on your 
phone.  Anyone found any great ways to keep track of what you have downloaded?  
 I will say that I’m not one to keep a book on my device once I’ve read it. I 
keep an Excel spreadsheet with books I’ve read and what I thought of them, and 
recently added a note as to which app I read it on, but this doesn’t help me 
with books I have yet to read.Just interested if anyone has any great ideas 
on ways to link everything into one list or something.

 

Robin with an iPhone SE 2020

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RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[sherrywells1157]

Land lines are cheap now, about $20 a month with unlimited long distance.  Of 
course not everyone can afford even this cheap price.  And as Sieghard says, it 
can be confusing if people have both numbers.  Sometimes they text the land 
line.   Again, as Sieghard says, to each his own preference.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

And to use consumer advocate Clark Howard think, that was $384 a year that I 
could use somewhere else. Multiply that by about 8 and a half now. And to think 
that I have free long distance in the United States. Wow. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

To each their own, if I know I want to have a long chat with somebody and I 
don't want to use speakerphone I simply use the wired Apple Earpods, this way I 
can get up and walk around if I want, it makes it easy to pick up another call 
if there is one and it's comfortable. Sure, if you have a cordless phone you 
can also walk around, but it's still another gadget I don't need.

I personally find entering numbers on my phone not that difficult, but if you 
have a Bluetooth keyboard especially if it's something like a Logitech K780 
with a numeric pad then you can use that to enter your bank card number or 
credit card number etc. I just made sure this still works and called Mastercard 
and it was no problem to press 1 on the numeric pad for English and then to 
quickly punch in my 16-digit card number and it's just as easy as using the 
phone dialpad.

AS I said, everybody has to decide what they want, but the extra cost for a 
landline is just not worth it to me and in addition everybody knows that I have 
one personal phone number so nobody calls my landline, then maybe I'm not home 
so they then try my cell number etc. .

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 1, 2021 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I 
couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said 
at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that 
askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com  
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

One of the  things that amazed 

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[sherrywells1157]

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.

I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.

I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have 
to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a 
power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the 
towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who 
live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it 
took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell 
tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run 
out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external 
batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your 
iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are 
telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations 
where cell phones work and landlines do not.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell 
phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work 
phone is often a cell phone also.  That was true for me before I retired.  We 
have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell 
service is down or the battery is down, etc.

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

It also depends on which method you use for your 

RE: How to Stop Music That is Playing

[sherrywells1157]

Thanks so much for this explanation / answer!  I think I too have had music 
start when hanging up after a phone call.  Now it makes sense.

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Stop Music That is Playing

 

What the iPhone registered when you thought you did a 3-finger double tap was a 
2-finger double tap which is the so-called "magic tap" which works as 
Play/Pause or to answer a call when your phone rings or to hang up when you are 
done.

In the last couple of versions of iOS even if the app switcher is empty a 
2-finger double tap often starts playing whatever you were last playing, e.g. 
if you played music it will start playing music, if you had been listening to 
an Audible book it would start playing your book.

There are 2 ways to stop playback, the easiest is to simply do another 2-finger 
double tap and it will stop whatever is playing. If that for some reason does 
not work you could open the music app if that is what is playing and find the 
Pause/Stop button there, but it should not be necessary. This happens to me at 
times as well and what happens especially often is that when I hang up a phone 
call with a 2-finger double tap and if the other person had already hung up it 
starts playing the book I last listened to on Audible. This is because the call 
has already ended so iOS interprets the 2-finger double tap as Play/Pause and 
not "Answer/Hang Up. When this happens I simply do another 2-finger double tap 
and it stops again.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: August 25, 2021 6:45 AM
To: 'VIPhone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: How to Stop Music That is Playing

 

Hello,

 

I have an IPhone 8 & am current with IOS.  Several times now I have somehow 
accidentally tapped on something & the last song I played starts playing.  I 
can see a box on the screen & moving my finger around the box gives me all 
sorts of info except stop.  I can’t even find a mute button.  App switcher does 
not contain the app playing the song so no way to stop it there either.  I have 
had to turn my phone off & back on.  Surely there is an obvious, better way 
that I am missing.  Also, any ideas as to what could have accidentally started 
music playing?  The music icon is at the very bottom right of my screen so I 
would have to make a deliberate choice to tap there.  This morning it started 
when I did a 3 finger double tap to mute voice over.

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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How to Stop Music That is Playing

[sherrywells1157]

Hello,

 

I have an IPhone 8 & am current with IOS.  Several times now I have somehow
accidentally tapped on something & the last song I played starts playing.  I
can see a box on the screen & moving my finger around the box gives me all
sorts of info except stop.  I can't even find a mute button.  App switcher
does not contain the app playing the song so no way to stop it there either.
I have had to turn my phone off & back on.  Surely there is an obvious,
better way that I am missing.  Also, any ideas as to what could have
accidentally started music playing?  The music icon is at the very bottom
right of my screen so I would have to make a deliberate choice to tap there.
This morning it started when I did a 3 finger double tap to mute voice over.

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: Volume Control Question

[sherrywells1157]

Thanks – I knew it would be something simple I hadn’t thought of!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Volume Control Question

 

Sherry:

 

Here you go.  Several ways to change Siri volume.

 

Apple’s virtual assistant, Siri, is an essential tool. Sometimes, though, its 
voice can be jarringly loud or too quiet to easily hear. Luckily, it’s easy to 
change Siri’s volume on an iPhone or iPad.


Use Voice Commands to Adjust Siri’s Volume


Your voice is probably the easiest way to control Siri’s volume. To adjust its 
volume this way, press and hold the Side or Home button (or  
 say, 
“Hey Siri,”) to launch it. Then say something like, “Change your volume to 75 
percent.”



This sets Siri’s (and the media playback) volume to 75 percent of the maximum 
setting. You can specify any value from 1 to 100 percent.

You can also just say, “Speak louder,” or “Speak softer,” to change Siri’s 
volume.


Adjust Siri’s Volume with the Volume Buttons


You can also change Siri’s volume by pressing the volume buttons on the side of 
your device. Some  

 confusion can arise when using these buttons, though. This is because they 
sometimes control the ringer or media playback volume.



To make sure you’re controlling the right setting, ask Siri a question, and 
then press the Volume Up or Down button to see if it responds.

RELATED:  

 How to Control Both Ringer and System Volume with the iPhone's Volume Buttons


Change Siri’s Volume in Control Center


If you’d prefer to use the touch screen to change Siri’s volume, you can also 
adjust it in  

 Control Center. Launch Control Center in one of the following ways:

* iPhone X or newer/iPad running iOS 12 or later: Swipe down from the 
top right of the screen. 

* iPhone 8 or earlier/iPad running iOS 11 or earlier: Swipe up from the 
bottom of the screen. (Control Center first appeared in iOS 7).



Tap the Volume slider to raise or lower Siri’s volume until you’ve got it where 
you want it.

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Volume Control Question

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Hello,

 

I have an IPhone 8 & am current on IOS.  The volume I have for navigating
the screen is fine, controlled by the volume option on the rotor.  The
physical volume buttons control the volume of calls & notifications.  How
can I control the volume of Siri?  She is too quiet but I can't find how to
turn her volume up.

 

Thanks,

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RE: In Reply To: No Sound When Text Sent

[sherrywells1157]

Siri does say the message was sent so the swoosh is definitely a personal 
preference.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In Reply To: No Sound When Text Sent

 

You need to contact Apple directly by both sending an email to 
accessibil...@apple.com   

and by going to www.appple.com/feedback  

and filling out the form.

If people do not communicate directly with Apple, nothing will change.

Clearly accessibility is a high priority for Apple, so make it clear to them 
that this is an accessibility issue because you are not sure the message sent 
without having that sound to confirm.

unless of course Siri says the message was sent, then it becomes a personal 
preference thing...

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com  

 





On Jun 23, 2021, at 2:33 AM, 'Pat Marshall' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hi,

Exactly.  who then took this woosh sound off then.  Why do Apple do this when 
no one has requested it.  I've tried to get this sound back but it's only 
available now if you dictate or type a message.  Nuisance.



Pat M 




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No Sound When Text Sent

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Hello,

 

I have an IPhone 8 with IOS 14.6.  Since I updated weeks ago, I no longer
get a swoosh sound when I send a text.  I looked in settings under sounds
but there is no separate setting for a sent text.  I did double check that
my phone is not on mute this time.  This is a very minor problem but I did
like to hear that swoosh sound in addition to Ciri telling me the message
was sent.

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: Voice Over Not Talking When Sending a Text

[sherrywells1157]

Well, much to my embarrassment my problem was the mute switch.  I did not 
purposefully mute the phone so will have to blame it on the cats.  I will 
certainly remember to check that in future.

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Over Not Talking When Sending a Text

 

Check your mute switch.

 

Also check under the new Siri settings for Siri feedback.

 

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

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sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 7:48 AM
To: 'VIPhone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Voice Over Not Talking When Sending a Text

 

Hello,

 

I have an IPhone 8, am current on IOS.  Suddenly today when I tell Ciri to send 
a message, I get no what do you want to say response.  I went ahead & spoke my 
message & could touch the screen & hear it.  I got no prompt for do you want to 
send.  I found the send button but tapping it did nothing.  I tried turning the 
phone off & back on but no change.  Any ideas as to what is going on & how I 
can fix?  

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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Voice Over Not Talking When Sending a Text

[sherrywells1157]

Hello,

 

I have an IPhone 8, am current on IOS.  Suddenly today when I tell Ciri to
send a message, I get no what do you want to say response.  I went ahead &
spoke my message & could touch the screen & hear it.  I got no prompt for do
you want to send.  I found the send button but tapping it did nothing.  I
tried turning the phone off & back on but no change.  Any ideas as to what
is going on & how I can fix?  

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: the faltering accessibility of DoorDash

[sherrywells1157]

I frequently just call to order from Door Dash as it takes me 5 minutes instead 
of 15 using the app.  Certainly if you have a discount you can't use on the 
app, next time just call.  I've called lots of times & never had anyone who did 
not understand English.  I would agree though that most would probably not be 
able to address any accessibility issues.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: 'Niki Keck' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 10:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the faltering accessibility of DoorDash

Last time I ordered, I was able to place the order, though I had to guess at 
one of the buttons; however, I did have one problem that was very irritating, 
to say the least.  One of the reasons I had decided to order was that I had 
gotten a 50% promo last time I ordered, so I was going to use it.  problem was, 
I could not find, with Voiceover, any place to enter the promo code.  I could 
edit my payment method, etc., but could not enter the promo code so therefore 
was not able to use my promotion.  50% is a big deal too.  I wanted the food, 
so made the order, but I was not happy about it at all.  I thought about 
contacting them and telling them that it was unfair that I could not get my 
discount just because of their app’s inaccessibility, but I felt it would be 
time wasted and better spent doing something else I would need to do, as I 
figured it would be a hassle that would not bring any reward in the end.  Most 
of their reps can’t understand English well let alone trying to explain to them 
about Voiceover accessibility.

> On May 7, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Viola Bentson  wrote:
> 
> Hi Carrie, I don't usually send out me too messages. However I agree about 
> doorDash my husband works out of the house but I don't and I order a lot! Too 
> much probably, and I'd be lost without my DoorDash. I have figured out work 
> arounds for their awful app that used to be great. I too have contacted them 
> with absolutely no response.
> 
> Viola
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carrie Snodgrass
> Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 4:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the faltering accessibility of DoorDash
> 
> I am strongly considering it. However, the minimum on dash pass is $12, 
> whereas the minimum on Eats Pass is $15. Since I am working from home and my 
> husband is not, a lot of times, I am ordering just for myself and that three 
> dollars can make a significant difference, believe it or not. I am going to 
> hang out as long as I can. Most definitely, the app is becoming more and more 
> inaccessible.
> 
> Carrie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 7, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> I was so irritated with the app today that I canceled my dash pass! lol. My 
>> reason? I let them know that their app sucked... well maybe not in those 
>> exact words! lol. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here's another option: If you are an Aira subscriber, you can use 
>>> their promo for May where they can help you browse, order, or track 
>>> your order on a food delivery site like DoorDash. You can use up to
>>> 20 minutes on 1 call every 48 hours. Not a lot of time, but if you 
>>> put your food in the cart, you could have Aira complete the order for you.
>>> I setup notifications on my DoorDash app, so I get notified at each 
>>> stage of the order process. I'm not sure if non-subscribers can use 
>>> this promo or if it just for Aira users.
>>> 
>>> Be well,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> 
> On 5/7/21, Dennis Long  wrote:
 Will they place the order if you are having trouble with the app?
 
 
 
 From: catwacky via VIPhone 
 Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 6:30 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: the faltering accessibility of DoorDash
 
 
 
 Yes, the number on the site is:
 
 
 
  1-855-300-8985
 
 
 
 And that is the number I called. The call-takers are very nice and 
 do try to help.
 
 
 
 Karen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
 Behalf Of Dennis Long
 Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: RE: the faltering accessibility of DoorDash
 
 
 
 This is what I found when I googled.  If the person has a different 
 number please share.  The number is below.
 
  1-855-300-8985.
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
 Behalf Of Paul JOrdan
 Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: RE: the faltering accessibility of DoorDash
 

RE: EcoBee Thermostat

[sherrywells1157]

Hi Pam,

 

I recently got an Eco Bee thermostat & have mixed feelings about it.  I live in 
an apartment so maintenance installed it so I cannot comment on how easy / 
difficult that would be.  I had problems turning off the schedule.  It seems to 
default to a schedule such that the temp will go up to 72 in the morning at a 
set time & down to 65 at a set time at night.  I don’t remember if these are 
the exact default temps but you get the idea.  I could tell Alexa to change the 
schedule time but could not get rid of it altogether.  I did not want a 
schedule.  I wanted to change the temp whenever I wanted.  I wrote Eco Bee 
support & they did email me instructions on how to do this which worked nicely. 
 One nice feature of the Eco Bee is that you can set a temp range such that if 
the temp goes below 65 the heat will come on & if it goes above 75 the air 
conditioning will come on.  Of course you can set the temps to whatever you 
want.  And if you don’t want to bother with that, you can set the mode to heat 
or cool & tell it the temp you want to maintain.  

 

As someone else said, the Eco Bee is a geeks dream.  This is my first talking 
or smart thermostat.  I probably won’t use all the features offered.  But it 
does work well.  I can talk to the thermostat or to my Echo in another room to 
change temps.  I found the app a bit challenging so haven’t messed around with 
it much yet.  If I had it to do over again, I probably would have purchased 
something more basic but my Eco Bee is working well so I’m sure not going to 
change it now.

 

HTH,

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: EcoBee Thermostat

 

Hi,

 

Does anyone have experience with using the EcoBee thermostat, either with the 
app or the one that works with Alexa?  Any comments on its accessibility?

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 

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RE: Masks & Face ID

[sherrywells1157]

I think everyone can agree that New Zealand has done an outstanding job re the 
virus.  I think the reaction to your original email, Simon, was that you said 
who needs to wear a mask.  I took that as sarcasm.  I think others thought you 
were serious.  So when people said you were ridiculous, they were reacting to 
that, not disagreeing re New Zealand.

 

I’m not sure why you felt it necessary to diverge from the topic at hand & wish 
you hadn’t started this.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

 

It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,

 

We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact that 
we have little if not any current cases of covid,

 

It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of this 
virus,

 

It’s like the saying,

Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,

 

 

May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they didn’t do 
more to keep you safe from this virus,

 

Plus we only have 5 million population,

And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,

 

It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,

 

But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the virus 
out.

 

May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other 
countrys 

Have treated this globle situation,

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Marco Curralejo
Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

 

I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you get a 
ridiculous post from anywhere regarding this matter, the list owner should 
really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic post to even 
get on to the list.

 

That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity.

 

Marco

 

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Posts like the below by Simon are dangerous, and should not be permitted on 
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:33 PM Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

Why do you need to wear face masks?

I have yet to buy or own a face mask and haven't worn one in the year that 
we've dealt with face masks,

 Don't even know anyone that has worn one,

Guess its one of the great things about living in the nation of New Zealand!



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:38 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID

A doctor from Jons Hopkins says that Covid will be mostly gone by April so the 
necessity to wear face masks will be ending soon.

Kelly



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>>  Hi All,
>>
>> Well based on the Youtube videos I’ve watched from Apple Insider and 
>> 9to5 Mac, the Face ID feature with the masks will only work to unlock 
>> your phone if you have an Apple Watch.
>>
>> Wendy
>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Simon A Fogarty >>  >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Richard,
>>>
>>> IOS 14 also allows you to have an alternate face in your face id 
>>> settings,
>>>
>>> So in a way you can have both faces in there.
>>>
>>> If you have two faces that is.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:46 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>>>
>>> You 

Masks & Face ID

[sherrywells1157]

I have an IPhone 8 so still use touch id.  When you set that up you can set
it up for more than one finger.  With face id, can you set it up with more
than one face?  If so, you could have both masked & unmasked faces for use
in unlocking the phone.  I'm guessing this isn't possible or one of you
would have done it.  I'm just curious though since it would make sense to
allow more than one face just as it does to allow more than one finger.

 

Sherry Wells

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RE: ABC Groups

[sherrywells1157]

This is unfortunate as the app used to let you send to more than 5.  A year or 
so ago I had a list of 10 going with no problems.  Unfortunately I've probably 
updated the app since then & will now face this new limitation.  This is such a 
usable app; it's a shame they had to place such an arbitrary & small limit on 
the number of people in a group.

Sherry Wells

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Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 11:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ABC Groups

Is there an in-app purchase that will allow you to send to more people?

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Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 11:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ABC Groups

That is apparently the limit in the app. But it should have allowed you to just 
hit send again and send to the 6th person. I did a group of 7, and was able to 
send it to the first 5 then the last 2. Odd limit, but there you go. 


Richard

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RE: Venmo Questions

[sherrywells1157]

I had lunch with my niece today who knew how to enable the pin for Venmo.  I 
think it is under navigation drawer / settings / pin.  But I would advise 
against doing this as the screen to enter your pin upon opening the app is not 
very accessible.  You have to double tap on the enter pin line.  Split tapping 
does not work.  When running your finger over the keyboard voice over only 
sporadically announces the number.  I was able to sign in but with a great deal 
of difficulty.  I will be turning enable pin off assuming I can get back in 
later.  

 

I too was surprised to see transactions from various people.  As Christopher 
mentioned, no amounts are given.  Still, I have no interest in seeing these.  
There is probably a way to turn them off but that is a low priority right now.

 

If I can figure it out, I’ll try enabling a password or touch id rather than a 
pin.  Then maybe I’ll be ready to pay someone some money!

 

Sherry Wells 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Venmo Questions

 

I've never sent money with Venmo but I've spent some time messing with the app 
since Sherry's post. Some of my problems with it are I'm unable to turn on 
Touch ID and passcode. The app takes you through entering a 4-digit PIN and 
verifying it and after completion, the Touch ID and passcode setting is still 
turned off. I've written Venmo Support about this and we'll see what happens. 
When attempting to authorize and remember a device using Venmo, VoiceOver isn't 
clear at identifying which devices if any have been so remembered. Also, I have 
to sign into the app each time I want to use it which is insane in this day and 
age and no doubt relates to my Touch ID setting difficulty. The app will work 
but I find things such as this a little too clunky for my taste. And why anyone 
would let their financial interactions be reported by such an app is beyond me. 
I expect one can turn off this setting but I'm surprised by what was displayed 
by my few contacts using Venmo who have apparently left some sort of public 
setting turned on.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Venmo Questions

 

Hi,

I send money with it regularly and have had no issues with it. Perhaps it isn't 
the most intuitive but it is certainly usable. Even if it doesn't finish 
syncing contacts if you tap on request or send money there's an edit field into 
which you can type someone's name or number and it'll find it within its users. 
Then there are edit fields for amount and purpose and then you can choose 
between request or pay. It's been so long since i set it up that I can't recall 
if I could add info in settings or if I had to do it when executing my first 
payment.

You can also set whether your transactions I.E. recipients involved can be 
viewed by other friends who are users by the public or completely private and 
can also be set globally or on a transaction by transaction basis.

 

It never asks me for any sort of password because i set it to remember my 
device I use most often but if that is turned off it can employ a pass code and 
Face ID when available and managing trusted devices is very easily done all 
within the settings area of the app itself which you access after tapping on 
the "navigation drawer."

I discovered it when hiring someone to provide me a service earlier in the year 
and when I asked what payment methods she accepted she said venmo. She departed 
and I quickly made a B-line for the search engine of my choosing to find out 
what she was speaking about as I'd no knowledge of it and didn't want to admit 
such.  She's only maybe 9 years younger than I am but I suddenly felt very old 
and last century (laughs). But since it was her favorite though she accepted 
others I learned how to use it quickly and she was never the wiser but I did 
learn something new in 2020 so that's something.

It's interesting to me that Venmo is a subsidiary of Pay Pal but the two are 
still kept as separate entities. It reminded me of Procter and Gamble making 
competing brands of soaps and the like and I giggled.

 

I find Venmo quite a bit easier and more preferable to Cash App but as with 
many things opinions and perceptions therein and one's mileage might vary.

I hope this helps.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 10/28/2020 7:59 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Hi list,

 

Is anyone using Venmo?  I tried installing it today & have some issues.

1) Some of the privacy info & options were not readable with voice over

2) I clicked on load my contacts & the app was still loading 45 minutes later.  
I don’t have an excessive number of contacts, a little over 

RE: Venmo Questions

[sherrywells1157]

Hello Robin,

 

Thanks for this info.  It took me a while to figure out that navigation drawer 
is what you need to click to get to settings.  What I want is to have Venmo 
prompt me for a pin or password when I open the app.  I found the devices 
setting & mine shows my iphone & says I won’t be prompted for a password if I 
use this device.  I  can find no way to change this.  I created a password when 
signing up but can find no way to get Venmo to use it.  

 

I don’t mind typing in a name when I want to send someone money.  Is there a 
way to add individuals to a list within Venmo?  I’m not on Facebook & adding 
contacts didn’t work.

 

Lastly, I have not used Venmo yet.  Will it prompt me for my bank info when I 
try to pay someone?  I’m guessing it will save this info so I don’t have to 
enter it every time.  I don’t want to do this until I make sure the app is 
password protected.

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Venmo Questions

 

Hi,

I send money with it regularly and have had no issues with it. Perhaps it isn't 
the most intuitive but it is certainly usable. Even if it doesn't finish 
syncing contacts if you tap on request or send money there's an edit field into 
which you can type someone's name or number and it'll find it within its users. 
Then there are edit fields for amount and purpose and then you can choose 
between request or pay. It's been so long since i set it up that I can't recall 
if I could add info in settings or if I had to do it when executing my first 
payment.

You can also set whether your transactions I.E. recipients involved can be 
viewed by other friends who are users by the public or completely private and 
can also be set globally or on a transaction by transaction basis.

 

It never asks me for any sort of password because i set it to remember my 
device I use most often but if that is turned off it can employ a pass code and 
Face ID when available and managing trusted devices is very easily done all 
within the settings area of the app itself which you access after tapping on 
the "navigation drawer."

I discovered it when hiring someone to provide me a service earlier in the year 
and when I asked what payment methods she accepted she said venmo. She departed 
and I quickly made a B-line for the search engine of my choosing to find out 
what she was speaking about as I'd no knowledge of it and didn't want to admit 
such.  She's only maybe 9 years younger than I am but I suddenly felt very old 
and last century (laughs). But since it was her favorite though she accepted 
others I learned how to use it quickly and she was never the wiser but I did 
learn something new in 2020 so that's something.

It's interesting to me that Venmo is a subsidiary of Pay Pal but the two are 
still kept as separate entities. It reminded me of Procter and Gamble making 
competing brands of soaps and the like and I giggled.

 

I find Venmo quite a bit easier and more preferable to Cash App but as with 
many things opinions and perceptions therein and one's mileage might vary.

I hope this helps.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 10/28/2020 7:59 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Hi list,

 

Is anyone using Venmo?  I tried installing it today & have some issues.

1) Some of the privacy info & options were not readable with voice over

2) I clicked on load my contacts & the app was still loading 45 minutes later.  
I don’t have an excessive number of contacts, a little over 100.  I finally 
skipped this step.

3) I was never prompted to enter any bank info for myself

4) when I went back into Venmo later, I expected to have to enter a password.  
One of the early steps in the install was to enter a password.  The app opened 
without my entering a password.

 

I have not tried to transfer money yet.  Perhaps when I do, I will be prompted 
for bank info then.  I want to wait until the app only opens with a password 
before I enter any bank info.  Or maybe you only get prompted for a password 
when you try to transfer money? 

 

Has anyone else had these kinds of problems?  Is there something I can do?  Any 
info would be helpful.

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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Venmo Questions

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Hi list,

 

Is anyone using Venmo?  I tried installing it today & have some issues.

1) Some of the privacy info & options were not readable with voice over

2) I clicked on load my contacts & the app was still loading 45 minutes
later.  I don't have an excessive number of contacts, a little over 100.  I
finally skipped this step.

3) I was never prompted to enter any bank info for myself

4) when I went back into Venmo later, I expected to have to enter a
password.  One of the early steps in the install was to enter a password.
The app opened without my entering a password.

 

I have not tried to transfer money yet.  Perhaps when I do, I will be
prompted for bank info then.  I want to wait until the app only opens with a
password before I enter any bank info.  Or maybe you only get prompted for a
password when you try to transfer money? 

 

Has anyone else had these kinds of problems?  Is there something I can do?
Any info would be helpful.

 

Thanks,

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RE: iOS 14 sucks!!

[sherrywells1157]

Hmmm, aren't you breaching the non disclosure agreement by telling us what bugs 
you did not find?  You said below you were not allowed to tell anything about 
the betas.  So maybe Apple should come after you too?

Having said that, I commend you for what I know is hard work doing beta 
testing.  I think people do have legitimate gripes about what sounds like an 
awful voice over bug.  Bugs happen in spite of the best testing.  It is good to 
let those of us on the list who have not yet upgraded know what they are 
experiencing.  And of course it is important to report these things to Apple.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
MacDonald
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!!

hello,

be a beta tester and stop wining about this focus issue. as a beta tester, I 
did not experience this issue you menchined with connecting to the support 
representative. even if I had, it would be a breech of my nondiscloser 
agreement. as a beta tester, nobody is allowed to tell people who are not 
either in the apple developer program, or in the apple beta software program, 
anything about these betas. whomever breeched the nondiscloser agreement to 
tell you changes to VoiceOver, I hope they get something done to them by Apple. 
Apple can sue, and I hope they consider this viable option. does anybody read 
the apple beta software agreement? I do, and take it exstreamly seriously, 
unlike the beta testwe who breeched it, to tell you something with VoiceOver 
has differed to the public release of iOS 14. if anybody violates their non 
discloser agreement, I hope you get what's coming to you from Apple. this list 
is for stable releeses only. of you want to beta test, and talk openly about 
beta releeses, their iss groupe on groups.io called public beta users.  its 
address is
publicbetausers+subscr...@groups.io. this grou;p it is a stipulation
you are a beta tester to be a member of it. they say so in the welcome message. 
they also say if you are not, or no longer, a public beta tester, to unscribe 
as it is a violation of Apple's Nondiscloser Agreement.
Daniel


On 10/6/20, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> I’m getting alittle tired of this too. People jump on the first 
> release of an IOS and then whine when there are bugs. If you want more 
> stable versions of ios, wait till it gets more stable. I plan on going 
> to IOS 14 in maybe March or April.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mich Verrier
> Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!!
>
>
>
> Also we have to always remember that us as blind consumers for apple 
> reperzent like maybe 1 percent of there market and let’s not forget 
> that apple’s main job is to make money. It is all well and good to say 
> yes state this or that to apple and hope that they fix it but there is 
> no garintee that they will or even lissen to us just look at the 
> genral reply you get when you file things with them who knows weather 
> they even bauther to read what there users say or maybe it is just 
> like politix and the reports just get stuck some where collecting dust 
> on some demacrats desk. As I said we are a verry nitch market for 
> shure. I for one wish that there was something as softwhere with no 
> bugs but that is impossible mainly because there are to many coads to 
> go through to make that happen. And yes it is frustrateing that they 
> will make something work in one version and then screw it up in the next 
> version jmo but if it works then don’t fix it. From Mich.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: October 6, 2020 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!!
>
>
>
> Perhaps if people commented more constructively their opinion would be 
> taken more seriously.
>
>
>
> What on earth IOS sucks is supposed to mean is beyond me!
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
>
>
>
> On 6 Oct 2020, at 15:35, Gerardo Corripio   > wrote:
>
> Just appreciate every day that we’ve talking phones, without needing 
> to, as before, buy separtely a Talks or Mobile Accessibility license. 
> Remember too that software is software, thus it’s very important to 
> have more Beta testers, but overall, for Apple to take more into 
> account feedback from those who Beta test. And as an afterthought, 
> doesn’t Apple have blind folks among its staff, to test VoiceOver for bugs?
>
> Gera
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>
>
>
> El 6 oct 2020, a la(s) 8:08 a.m., Devin Prater   > escribió:
>
> 
>
> I mean, iOS 13 sucked. iOS 12 sucked. iOS 11 sucked. I'm starting to 
> see why people hold off on updating until a few release versions into 
> the current year's release. 

RE: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

[sherrywells1157]

OK, if it was on by default, is there any reason it would just start draining 
the battery in the last couple of days?  I’m not doubting anyone at all, just 
wondering why the impact would have taken so long to notice.  

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

 

It is on by default.

You didn’t do anything.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

 

Thanks for the screen time suggestion.  It was turned on.  How could this 
happen?  I didn’t even know what it was let alone how to turn it on!

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

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Thanks for the screen time suggestion.  It was turned on.  How could this 
happen?  I didn’t even know what it was let alone how to turn it on!

 

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RE: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

[sherrywells1157]

This is probably a dumb question but what is screen time in terms of turning it 
off?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Also, make sure your screen brightness is set to 0 and your screen time is 
turned off.  Good luck.

On 9/27/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Mine was doing that a couple of weeks ago, and I just powered off, 
> then back on, and VOILA, end of problem so far.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I have an IPhone 8 which is around a year old.  I am still on IOS 
> 13.7.  The only change I’ve made to the phone recently was to turn off 
> notifications for apps.  In the last 2 days the phone battery seemed 
> to be dropping at a rapid rate.  I’m not a heavy phone user so this 
> was surprising.  Last night I checked & the phone was at 100% at 11PM 
> & was at 63% at 9AM.  I had not used it at all during this time.  What should 
> I check?
>
>
>
> And before someone complains, I apologize for not reading the somewhat 
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Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

[sherrywells1157]

Hello all,

 

I have an IPhone 8 which is around a year old.  I am still on IOS 13.7.  The
only change I've made to the phone recently was to turn off notifications
for apps.  In the last 2 days the phone battery seemed to be dropping at a
rapid rate.  I'm not a heavy phone user so this was surprising.  Last night
I checked & the phone was at 100% at 11PM & was at 63% at 9AM.  I had not
used it at all during this time.  What should I check?

 

And before someone complains, I apologize for not reading the somewhat
recent emails on battery drain.  At the time, they did not apply to me so I
deleted them without reading them.  

 

Thanks,

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RE: am I missing something?????

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Yes, the Apple vis site is indeed helpful.  I think you are missing the point 
though.  Virtually every question asked on this list could probably be answered 
with research on the web.  People like these lists because they save lots of 
research time.  I find the questions re best apps interesting & hope people 
will not stop asking them.  There are aspects of the IPhone that do not 
interest me at all.  I use the delete key for those emails.  You should do the 
same for the topics that do not interest you instead of trying to edit the list 
to suit your interests.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: am I missing something?

 

I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see a 
question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good recording 
app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of this list. As 
most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com which is a 
repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any other when it 
comes to information about the usefulness of particular app's for blind and 
visually impaired individuals. I urge each one of you who feel the need to ask 
questions which you could easily find the answers yourself from this site to go 
there and have a look at all the information which is available. There are 
lists of app's concerning various needs or wants, there are podcasts for those 
who feel they need further assistance in becoming familiar with a specific 
application and you may just come away with more than you expected. Please, 
before you bring a question to the list, consider finding the answer at 
http://www.applevis.com  and thank you.

 

Fred Olver

 

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RE: turning off updates

[sherrywells1157]

I still have 13.7 on an IPhone 8.  When I go to settings / general/ software 
updates, there is a button labeled customize automatic updates at the bottom 
below  the learn more and download & install buttons.  Tapping this customize 
automatic updates gives you a screen where you can toggle download IOS updates 
on & off.  Turning it off prevents automatic updates.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: turning off updates

 

Goes to show how quick one forgets. I think the "Automatic Updates" button 
might be new in iOS 14 and that before this it was under "Customize".

Tammy might get better suggestions if she included the iOS version she has, is 
it 13 or is she still on iOS 12?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: turning off updates

 

For me, the first thing under Settings, general, Software updates, is a button 
labeled, Automatic updates.

Double tapping on that gives,  two options, automatically download, and 
automatically install.

You can turn either or both off.

Now, this may be new in 14, so you possibly don’t see that.  I don’t have a 
device running 13.7 to check.

Try using the search feature at the top of Settings, and enter update and see 
what comes up.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com  
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: turning off updates

 

Ok, I just went there.  14 is dimmed and the only other things I find is 
download and install.

 

I also find customize which does not have an option to turn off automatic 
updates.

 

Thanks!

Tammy

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 1:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: turning off updates

 

You go to Settings > General > Software Update

 

 

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ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com  
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: turning off updates

 

Hello,

Apparently, I am looking in the wrong place.  Where do I go to turn off 
software auto updates? I have the SE2020.

Thanks!

Tammy

 

 

 


 

 

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RE: for Joshua

[sherrywells1157]

I agree, Shirley I'm sorry you had that experience too.  I'm just saying I'm 
not surprised because the tech support folks would tend to think your problem 
was due to having an old version of the software.  I would think most problems 
could be resolved no matter the version but I'm sure there are some things that 
are harder to troubleshoot if one is not current.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 3:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: for Joshua

I've never heard of apple accessibility refusing to help you if you weren't up 
to date.  I didn't update my iPhone for almost a year and I had no trouble 
having apple help me with any issues.  Shirley Sorry you had that experience.

On 8/30/20, sherrywells1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Christopher wasn't saying he didn't believe you.  He was saying he 
> didn't know why you would think Apple could not refuse to help you 
> unless you were on a more current version.  Reread his post more carefully.
>
> Sherry Wells
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: for Joshua
>
> I didn't think it up. This is what they told me and I can't help what 
> your opinion might be but this particular person would not help me 
> unless I updated my phone at that time. Whatever you believe is not my 
> problem. I'm just telling you what that person said so I did what they 
> told me to do and have ever since.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:33 AM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure why you think Apple can't deny you telephone support 
>> for an older unsupported version of IOS. You may be getting telephone 
>> support for now, but I doubt it'll last forever. I'm pretty sure 
>> Apple isn't releasing security updates for 12.4.1 any more either. 
>> Plus there's nothing that says app developers have to continue to support 
>> 12.4.1.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Robin
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: for Joshua
>>>
>>> Okay, Ms. Shirley
>>>   After I  received  Your MessagePosting, which  AppearsBelow this 
>>> MessagePosting of Mine,  I  decided to Call Apple's 
>>> AppleAccessibility TelephoneSupport @ 877-204-3930, To InQuire about 
>>> "what" you said, &  I was informed that I wouldn't Be Denied 
>>> TelephoneSupport from Apple's AppleAccessibility because I  refused 
>>> to update  My VZW XS  MAX  from
>>> iOS12.4.1 to  WhatEver is the Latest iOS13 iteration.
>>>
>>> (I  Presume)
>>> it's because  I  didn't  Update Past iOS12, as  if I did  "they"
>>> could say  that the BugFixes were Resolved in a  Future iOS update 
>>> of iOS13, but since I  refused to UpdatePast iOS12.4.1, I can't Be 
>>> Denied TelephoneSupport from AppleAccessibility on My VZW XS MAX At 
>>> 06:30 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
 I just hope the device you don't have it on, you won't need help 
 from Apple Accessibility because they told me they require you to 
 have whatever device you're requesting help with, to be updated to 
 the latest version or they won't help you so every since they told 
 me that, I make sure my devices are all updated.

 Sent from my iPhone

>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Robin  wrote:
>>
>> You Ask? How will "I Know"?
>> If Ya ReadMyReplyMessagePosting to
 ThisThread, I  said, that I  have Apple's iOS13 on My VZW 11PRO 
 PrimarilyBecause that is the iOS version that it was LaunchedWith, 
 but My VZW XS MAX wasn't, & Because of  TheBugs
 AssociatedWith iOS13, I   Refuse to Update  it
 to iOS13, so it Remains on  its Last Update, which  is iOS12.4.1.
> MayBe just MayBe
> You're More TechSavy than I  am. Yeah,
 that's  MostLikely TheCase, as I'm not that TechSavy
>
> MyApologies, if this MessagePosting offends, as it isn't intended 
> ToDoSo.
> I'm just Stating-the-Facts, as  "I  See" them
>
> Blessin's to Those on ThisThread
> At 01:56 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> It's not that bad. How would you know how
 bad it is since you haven't updated? Some people are just 
 unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS  Buggy,
 which is "Why" I  Refuse to Update My VZW XS MAX, as it's going to 
 Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which is the iOS  version it was when I 
 Purchased it, &  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs AssociatedWith
 iOS13 because "They" are present on My VZW 11PRO, & that 
 MobileDevice is ON AutomaticUpdates (so far). It's TheUser'sChoice 
 To Update or Not
>>> At 01:13 

RE: for Joshua

[sherrywells1157]

Christopher wasn't saying he didn't believe you.  He was saying he didn't know 
why you would think Apple could not refuse to help you unless you were on a 
more current version.  Reread his post more carefully.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: for Joshua

I didn't think it up. This is what they told me and I can't help what your 
opinion might be but this particular person would not help me unless I updated 
my phone at that time. Whatever you believe is not my problem. I'm just telling 
you what that person said so I did what they told me to do and have ever since.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:33 AM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure why you think Apple can't deny you telephone support for an 
> older unsupported version of IOS. You may be getting telephone support for 
> now, but I doubt it'll last forever. I'm pretty sure Apple isn't releasing 
> security updates for 12.4.1 any more either. Plus there's nothing that says 
> app developers have to continue to support 12.4.1.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Robin
>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: for Joshua
>> 
>> Okay, Ms. Shirley
>>   After I  received  Your MessagePosting, which  AppearsBelow this 
>> MessagePosting of Mine,  I  decided to Call Apple's 
>> AppleAccessibility TelephoneSupport @ 877-204-3930, To InQuire about 
>> "what" you said, &  I was informed that I wouldn't Be Denied  
>> TelephoneSupport from Apple's AppleAccessibility because I  refused 
>> to update  My VZW XS  MAX  from
>> iOS12.4.1 to  WhatEver is the Latest iOS13 iteration.
>> 
>> (I  Presume)
>> it's because  I  didn't  Update Past iOS12, as  if I did  "they" 
>> could say  that the BugFixes were Resolved in a  Future iOS update of 
>> iOS13, but since I  refused to UpdatePast iOS12.4.1, I can't Be 
>> Denied TelephoneSupport from AppleAccessibility on My VZW XS MAX At 06:30 PM 
>> 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>>> I just hope the device you don't have it on, you won't need help 
>>> from Apple Accessibility because they told me they require you to 
>>> have whatever device you're requesting help with, to be updated to 
>>> the latest version or they won't help you so every since they told 
>>> me that, I make sure my devices are all updated.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> You Ask? How will "I Know"?
> If Ya ReadMyReplyMessagePosting to
>>> ThisThread, I  said, that I  have Apple's iOS13 on My VZW 11PRO 
>>> PrimarilyBecause that is the iOS version that it was LaunchedWith, 
>>> but My VZW XS MAX wasn't, & Because of  TheBugs
>>> AssociatedWith iOS13, I   Refuse to Update  it
>>> to iOS13, so it Remains on  its Last Update, which  is iOS12.4.1.
 MayBe just MayBe
 You're More TechSavy than I  am. Yeah,
>>> that's  MostLikely TheCase, as I'm not that TechSavy
 
 MyApologies, if this MessagePosting offends, as it isn't intended ToDoSo.
 I'm just Stating-the-Facts, as  "I  See" them
 
 Blessin's to Those on ThisThread
 At 01:56 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
> It's not that bad. How would you know how
>>> bad it is since you haven't updated? Some people are just 
>>> unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS  Buggy,
>>> which is "Why" I  Refuse to Update My VZW XS MAX, as it's going to 
>>> Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which is the iOS  version it was when I  
>>> Purchased it, &  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs AssociatedWith
>>> iOS13 because "They" are present on My VZW 11PRO, & that  
>>> MobileDevice is ON AutomaticUpdates (so far). It's TheUser'sChoice 
>>> To Update or Not
>> At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>>> You can turn automatic update off but I
>>> don't see what the big deal is with not updating.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua
>>> Hendrickson  wrote:
 
 Well, the good news is, I
>>> don't really mind the new update like I
 thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed 
 like apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.
 I didn't have the option of saying later.  There is this weird 
 tapping thing that might happen when you update.  You
>>> will feel it when you swipe on
 the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help 
 you get rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar 
 to see the battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go 
 to battery on page one of your phone to see that.
 Although, 

RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

[sherrywells1157]

Exactly right Christopher.

As crazyeyez says below, people are dumb.  This is true of people like him or 
her who insult others over a petition they haven't even bothered to read for 
themselves.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding 
disabled people from public betas · Change.org

If you're truly concerned about posts and traffic on this list, I'd encourage 
you to follow the moderators request at the bottom of every post to this list, 
namely " If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
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I read the petition myself, and I didn't see where the petitioner did anything 
dumb or stupid. They were bringing up the point that Apple had such a serious 
VoiceOver bug in the beta that a blind person couldn't participate. Did you 
read the petition yourself or were you just basing your opinion on what someone 
said about the petition?

--
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Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> CrazyEyez
> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 1:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully 
> excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org
> 
> Honestly, people are dumb.
> They'll start a petition over anything, even if its their fault something 
> happened.
> I don't feel bad for you in the least.
> We should start a petition to remove the idiot who started this whole 
> mess from the list so they don't clog our emails with their wining.
> Moderator remove this garbage thread please.
> It shows true stupidity.
> Where has the comprehension gone?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 16, 2020, at 2:16 AM, Donna Casteen 
> wrote:
> >
> > I can't believe such a petition was started!!臘‍♀️ This 
> > petition was started
> because an Apple watch user went against Apple's WARNING to NEVER 
> install beta versions of IOS on ANY Appple device that is YOUR main 
> device! Of course, this person just HAD to have the beta update & 
> installed the beta version on their Apple watch that they RELY on & 
> USE daily!  Beta versions of any program WILL have bugs. The fact that 
> Apple is a company that stands behind their products making them 
> accessible for the blind & those with other disabilities, does NOT 
> exclude Apple's beta versions of IOS from having bugs. Nor does this bug 
> prevent those who are blind taking part in the public beta testing process.
> Apple was FULLY aware of the voiceover bug Associated with ALL Apple 
> watches. And fully WARNED voiceover users with Apple watches of the bug.
> Apple also informed voiceover users that they were working on fixing 
> the voiceover bug, so that voiceover users could participate in the 
> public beta testing program. Placing the blame on Apple & criticizing 
> Apple for a problem that they were working toward fixing, is wrong. 
> The Blame solely lies with Apple watch user(s), who in their poor 
> judgement decided to install the public beta on a device, in which is used 
> daily.
> >
> > It is very important that blind iDevice users participate in Apple's 
> > beta testing
> program, otherwise voiceover or low vision features of the iDevices 
> would always have major bugs, making the iDevices unusable. Apple is a 
> large company. The population that is blind & who use Apple products 
> is very small. If this type of placing blame where it is obvious it 
> does not belong & publically criticizing Apple for something that  at 
> the time was out of their control, but Apple was working toward fixing: Apple 
> is in the end going to do 1 of 2 things 1.
> No longer let blind users participate in the beta testing process. 
> Apple can do this by stopping all public beta testing. 2. Apple throws 
> in the towel, giving up on trying to make their products accessible for such 
> a small population of people.
> Neither of these scenarios are in the best interest of blind iDevice users.
> >
> > When beta testing follow Apple's guidelines or otherwise DO NOT 
> > complain
> when your device stops working!
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RE: Siri Issue

[sherrywells1157]

This happens to me every once in a while.  Turning the phone off & back on 
always solves it.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vivian 
Conger
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri Issue

 

I have had this issue 3 times this morning so will give those tips a try too.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Siri Issue

 

I actually fixed it by turning off dictation under keyboard and turning it back 
on and now it is working.  I couldn't find the use home button place so tried 
just the dictation off and on and that worked.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Vivian Conger
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Siri Issue

 

Carla,

 

This sometimes happens to me and I’m using an iPhone 7 currently.  I think it 
might have something to do with the cell provider.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Siri Issue

 

Starting yesterday I haven't been able to dictate text messages using Siri.  
She either says "I am having trouble connecting," or "There is a problem."  I 
can use my bluetooth keyboard and type the message and it sends fine.  Is there 
a fix for this or are any of you having the same problem?

 

Carla

 

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RE: Apology

[sherrywells1157]

No, the person who made the rude remark about Marilyn did not apologize at all. 
 It was Marilyn who apologized for asking the question.   The very rude person 
has not bothered to apologize.  This thread has continued as many of us have 
wanted to offer support for Marilyn.  

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apology

 

Come on guys, enough is enough with this thread. 

Yes, this person made a very rude and inappropriate comment. However, she did 
appoligize for it. Was it wrong to make such a comment, yes, but every one 
makes mistakes and she owned up to it and appoligized. 

Its time to let it go. 





On Jun 7, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Esther mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

I totally agree with you. That was very very uncalled for. Esther

Sent From Esther's Awesome and Amazing iPhone 7+





On Jun 7, 2020, at 2:47 AM, chalt...@gmail.com   
wrote:



I have a few points to make on this thread. First is that Marilyn has nothing 
to apologize for, and I hope she doesn’t judge this whole list by a few rude 
members. As anyone can tell, this list is full of members who want to help 
other blind people. But it also can’t keep mean and self righteous people from 
joining the list.

 

IMHO, the moderator doesn’t need to give this person a second chance before 
kicking them off the list. Marilyn made an honest mistake, but anyone who would 
tell someone else on the list that they don’t have a brain, is just not someone 
who should be given another chance or be allowed on this list.

 

Finally, I’m on plenty of lists which have nothing to do with blindness and I 
don’t find blindness related lists to have a greater number of rude people on 
it then your average list. I wish it were the case that blind people would 
kinder and more gracious then the general public, but unfortunately this isn’t 
the case. I also don’t think that the opposite is true, and that is that the 
blindness community is more mean spirited or has more rude people in it then 
the general community. I find this to be just another unsubstantiated prejudice 
against blind people.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Apology

 

It would have taken the same amount of energy to just anser the question as 
opposed to making that comment.  It's interesting that I notice this kind of 
behavior a lot more on blind oriented lists.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sharon   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 1:01 PM

Subject: RE: Apology

 

I totally agree! One more rude comment, and they should be removed from the 
list.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apology

 

I think the moderator needs to step in here and reiterate what is expected in 
the realm of good list etiquette.

. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Diane Giannetti
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Apology

 

Wow, I cannot believe that you would say something like that to a person just 
because of making a mistake. That’s not nice.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

 

On Jun 6, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Arlene mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Marilyn, all you needed was the unsubscribing address. It's oksy, you don't 
have to apologize for that, you just needed the unsubscribing directions. Take 
care.

 

Arlene

 

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RE: Stimulus Info

[sherrywells1157]

Everyone making less than $99,000 will get a check.  If you've filed taxes & 
get your refund via direct deposit, you will get your check that way.  If you 
have not filed taxes or have filed & do not use direct deposit, you'll still 
get a check but it could take months as you will get it in the regular mail.  
If you want to speed up the process, you can go to irs.gov & fill out a form as 
a non filer.  You will be asked to provide bank info so they can send your 
check via direct deposit.

Sherry Wells

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Reese
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Well I haven't filed a tax return in many years either, and I do get SSDI.
So, Larry, if either one of us gets the payment, we'll know for sure what's 
what.
Evan


-Original Message- 
From: Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Stimulus Info

I'm very confused too. Some say SSDI recipients with direct deposit should 
automatically get the money and some say we have to file. We haven't filed 
income tax in many years.


-Original Message-
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Reese
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Stimulus Info

It's a bit confusing though because, if I understand what I read on the IRS 
site correctly, SSDI recipients will get their payments automatically. But 
if you don't get enough income to have to file a tax return, you have to 
fill out the form on the site to get the payment.
So if I'm not mistaken, even if you get SSDI, if you don't get enough to be 
required to file a tax return, you have to fill out the form on the site to 
get the payment.
If anybody understands it differently, I'd be interested.
Evan


-Original Message-
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The information my wife is seeing on the lists she is on says that SSDI 
recipients won't get theirs for several weeks.


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RE: Does anyone use the ABC Group app

[sherrywells1157]

Excellent question.  I don't know.  The few people who mentioned it at all just 
told me they liked ABC groups better because they didn't see lots of phone 
numbers in my texts.  It's been a while so I don't remember if they would have 
also had everyone on my list in their contact lists.  I'm guessing that's a 
good possibility.

Sherry Wells

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Is this because you used ABC Groups or because your recipients already had 
everyone in their address books?

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> When I have used ABC Groups, my group had only people from my contact list.
> No one saw any phone numbers, just names.
> 
> Sherry Wells
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> -Original Message-
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> Good evening,
> I just learned about the ABC group app and downloaded.  I’m creating 
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> question though.  Is there a way for the group of people that I 
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> if I use the option of using first and last names in place of phone 
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When I have used ABC Groups, my group had only people from my contact list.  No 
one saw any phone numbers, just names.

Sherry Wells

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Good evening,
I just learned about the ABC group app and downloaded.  I’m creating groups, 
and love the ability to have groups I can text.  Here’s a question though.  Is 
there a way for the group of people that I created not to see one another’s 
phone numbers when I text them?  Or, if I use the option of using first and 
last names in place of phone numbers, will they see them as well?  Still 
figuring everything out here.
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RE: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before

[sherrywells1157]

Yes, absolutely agree that there are many different scenarios & thus it is 
critical for these delivery / restaurant apps to be accessible.  I have used 
the delivery apps when wanting to browse menus.  Pizza is different as I always 
know exactly what I want.  And after ordering online a couple times with other 
restaurants, I also generally know what I want.  

Sherry Wells
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before

If I know exactly what I want then calling to place an order can easily take 
less time then using an app or a web site, but there are times when I want to 
review the menu or glance through the specials before I make up my mind. I 
don't always want to have someone on the phone walk me through these when I 
could do it myself through the app or the web site. My only point is that there 
are multiple scenarios here, so just because calling works for one person in 
one situation doesn’t mean it'll work for everyone all of the time.

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> 
> I totally agree with John.  All the food apps should be accessible.  
> But even though my local food delivery app is totally accessible, I 
> still call them to order food.  It takes 2 minutes to do this vs 15 or 
> so to use the app.  A no brainer for me.
> 
> Sherry Wells
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> John Panarese
> Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2020 10:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before
> 
>I think that’s the essence of some of the initial comments that are 
> being missed by some. It’s not a matter of not wanting these apps to 
> be accessible. I have been on a personal crusade for a long time to 
> push getting applications accessible so that the blind have equal footing 
> when it comes to accessing them.
> My point several messages ago is that I find simply calling in my 
> orders is so much easier and faster. Yes, ordering online or through 
> an app, even if it’s accessible, is time consuming and even 
> frustrating in some instances. It takes me less than a minute to call 
> in my order to one of the two pizza places still open around me, and I 
> also have the luxury of easily calling them back if something is wrong 
> with the order. That’s just the basic difference to me in my world. 
> I’ve used all of the delivery apps with mixed success, so I am in no way 
> saying that we, as the blind community, should not push for their 
> accessibility.
> 
> 
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> 
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> > On Apr 4, 2020, at 2:59 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> >
> > I pretty much always order pizza or a sandwich via phone.  I've got 
> > a store near by called Caseys and although I did order online once, 
> > it was really more trouble then it was worth.  I do get the reward 
> > offers, but I rarely feel the need to try and order online to 
> > receive the order, it isn't the most accessible website.  I like 
> > calling up the 2 local Pizza places and just ordering what I want via phone.
> >
> > On 4/3/20, Tom Lange  wrote:
> >> I refuse to use door dash. The first time I tried them I was 
> >> successful and the second time they declined a perfectly fine debit 
> >> card that I’ve been using for two years. Their support was of 
> >> absolutely no help whatsoever. So I figured if they don’t want my 
> >> business
> screw them.
> >>
> >>> On Apr 3, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Shirley Baker 
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well, as I said yesterday, I put my order in the cart and went to 
> >>> enter my payment info and there was no edit fields that I could 
> >>> find so that's why I couldn't complete the order. I even called to 
> >>> get help but no one answered the phone. I am good at placing other 
> >>> food orders and grocery store orders but it just didn't work with Little 
> >>> Caesars.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Apr 3, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
>  I agree completely!
> 
>  Andy
> 
>  - Original Message - From: 
>  To: 
>  Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 6:42 PM
>  Subject: RE: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before
> 
> 
> > IMHO, it's irrelevant whether you'd can call a pizza place or not.
> > 

RE: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before

[sherrywells1157]

I totally agree with John.  All the food apps should be accessible.  But even 
though my local food delivery app is totally accessible, I still call them to 
order food.  It takes 2 minutes to do this vs 15 or so to use the app.  A no 
brainer for me.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John 
Panarese
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2020 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before

   I think that’s the essence of some of the initial comments that are being 
missed by some. It’s not a matter of not wanting these apps to be accessible. I 
have been on a personal crusade for a long time to push getting applications 
accessible so that the blind have equal footing when it comes to accessing 
them. My point several messages ago is that I find simply calling in my orders 
is so much easier and faster. Yes, ordering online or through an app, even if 
it’s accessible, is time consuming and even frustrating in some instances. It 
takes me less than a minute to call in my order to one of the two pizza places 
still open around me, and I also have the luxury of easily calling them back if 
something is wrong with the order. That’s just the basic difference to me in my 
world. I’ve used all of the delivery apps with mixed success, so I am in no way 
saying that we, as the blind community, should not push for their accessibility.


Take Care

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> On Apr 4, 2020, at 2:59 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I pretty much always order pizza or a sandwich via phone.  I've got a 
> store near by called Caseys and although I did order online once, it 
> was really more trouble then it was worth.  I do get the reward 
> offers, but I rarely feel the need to try and order online to receive 
> the order, it isn't the most accessible website.  I like calling up 
> the 2 local Pizza places and just ordering what I want via phone.
> 
> On 4/3/20, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> I refuse to use door dash. The first time I tried them I was 
>> successful and the second time they declined a perfectly fine debit 
>> card that I’ve been using for two years. Their support was of 
>> absolutely no help whatsoever. So I figured if they don’t want my business 
>> screw them.
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Shirley Baker 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, as I said yesterday, I put my order in the cart and went to 
>>> enter my payment info and there was no edit fields that I could find 
>>> so that's why I couldn't complete the order. I even called to get 
>>> help but no one answered the phone. I am good at placing other food 
>>> orders and grocery store orders but it just didn't work with Little Caesars.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 3, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
 
 I agree completely!
 
 Andy
 
 - Original Message - From: 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 6:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before
 
 
> IMHO, it's irrelevant whether you'd can call a pizza place or not. 
> The fact of the matter is that sighted people can use a web site 
> or an app to place an order and therefore the blind should be able to as 
> well.
> --
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> Chaltain at Gmail
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before 
>> Yeah I'd rather call my pizza company and order what I want and 
>> then either get it picked up or delivered.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of John Panarese
>> Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2020 9:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Has Anyone Ordered From Little Caesars Pizza Before 
>> Do people actually make calls any more to order food? I prefer to 
>> call and make orders verbally than use apps if possible. Speaking 
>> to a human and specifying items when it comes to multiple orders 
>> has been much more successful to me. Doordash and Grub Hub are 
>> fine, but I just had an issue with the order being incomplete 
>> with a local restaurant chain via Grub Hub.
>> Take Care
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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>> PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS 
>> AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND 

RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

[sherrywells1157]

I hate to prolong this thread but I’m wondering if this problem only occurs on 
certain IPhone models.  I’ve seen several posts saying their 8 has this issue & 
several that mention they have a newer model & do not have the issue.  Maybe I 
missed some emails on this topic.  I don’t think everyone who has an 8 needs to 
chime in but I’d like to hear from anyone who has a newer model & has this 
pronunciation issue with yesterday.  It would go a long way to solving it if 
the problem only occurred on certain models.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Richard,

 

I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead of 
t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling the 
substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.

 

Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit perplexing 
considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

Well, for those who are experiencing this, have you tried going into VoiceOver 
settings, Speech, pronunciation and put in yesterday with the substitution as 
yester space day to see if it solves the issue, though it may have a bit of a 
pause in the middle. 

And, of course, everyone should write Apple, but given how inconsistent it is, 
I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

 

Richard 

"There's a nap for that." 

Sent from my iPhone

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

 

“

 

 

On Mar 25, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Well, my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4 pronounces it as yesterTay whether I'm using 
Samantha enhanced or Tom enhanced or the Siri female Voiceover voices. When I 
got Siri to say it, she also mispronounces it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]   
On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?

 

I think some of you are confusing Siri with Voice Over.  They are two separate 
voices.

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[sherrywells1157]

Why are these messages about a meeting in Ohio going to the entire viphone list?

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anne West
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: meeting next Monday

 

Well, I’m not going to be in Ohio any time soon. From one ham to another, many 
thanks. I should have come to the ARRL when you were working there.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 21:56
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: meeting next Monday

 

Hey Anne, I think Paula had a glitch in her email when she sent out the email.  
It was supposed to go to a I device user group here in Cincinnati.  But, if u r 
in town, u know like coming to see me, or something like that, u r more than 
welcome to join us.  Heck, I’ll even spring for your pizza and drink.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne West
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: meeting next Monday

 

Um, meeting? Is it a virtual meeting or at someone’s home? If it’s a virtual 
meeting, how is it accessed?

 

Anne West

k1stm...@gmail.com  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 21:43
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: meeting next Monday

 

Hi Paula, I am planning to be there.  I would like coke 0.  Hey, I finally got 
the new Iphone se unlocked and working.  What a nightmare and a story with 
takeaway points for anyone who take the journey I took.  

 

Gosh, hope Paul gets better soon.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2020 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: meeting next Monday

 

Hi all.  Our regular meeting is scheduled for this coming Monday.   Sorry for 
the late notice.  Things have been a little crazy around here.  I’ve just 
brought home a new dog and Paul was admitted to Mercy West hospital today.  
He’s pretty sick right now and we don’t know exactly what’s going on.  

 

We’ll have a round table discussion perhaps talking about our favorite or most 
useful apps.  

Pizza is $5 and if you want to purchase a drink from Carol and Mike it’s 50 
cents.  Please let me know in advance what kind of drink you’d like.  There is 
coke, diet coke and coke zero.

Please let me know if you plan to come so I have an accurate count.

God bless!

Paula, Charlie and Garçon

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RE: Bard jail

[sherrywells1157]

There is no limit to how many BARD books you can download.  I know someone who 
has downloaded hundreds.  If some of your books are not playing, there is 
another problem.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenifer 
Barr
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bard jail

Thanks Richard. I looked in the terms and conditions. I didn't see anything 
pertaining to my situation. I guess I haddownloaded too many books and now some 
of them won't play. lol. i didn't see anything written about a limit. Oops?  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2020, at 8:46 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I for one have no idea what you are talking about.
> If you are talking about BARD Mobile from the National Library Service, their 
> terms and conditions are what one has to agree to to use the service.
> If you have questions about their policy or what you have done to get on 
> their bad side, write:
> nlsdownl...@loc.gov
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> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
>  Live long and prosper
> 
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> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 5:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Hi all. For those of you that have been in Bard jail... if I delete a book 
> when I'm done, will that allow another one to be authorized? Where can I find 
> these terms and conditions that explains how not to be naughty? lol.  
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RE: Stopping Request for Apple ID & PW

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He did try signing in with his Apple id & password.  The phone continues to 
prompt for it though.  He has not called Apple accessibility yet as he is 
hearing impaired & it is a bit of a hassle.  Since no one on the list has an 
answer though, that is what he will need to try next.

Thanks,
Sherry Wells

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Stopping Request for Apple ID & PW

Why does he or she not just sign in using their Apple Id and password as this 
may very well stop any further requests for this information.

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Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Stopping Request for Apple ID & PW

I don't have the same issue, but using touch ID for things like making app 
purchases doesn't work on my iPhone 8.  Apple accessibility doesn't know why 
this is.  I never have to enter in my apple ID, but my password is required for 
the first app purchase, then I'm password free for the next fifteen minutes.

On 2/21/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I've never heard of this.
> Being required to enter the passcode, yes, but Apple ID and Password, no.
> Either the ID isn't completely setup or there is something off with 
> the Touch ID and Passcode settings.
> As usual, this would be easier to solve if your friend called Apple 
> Accessibility where they could do a screen share and walk them through 
> what to do.
> 877-204-3930
>
>
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." -- an anonymous cat
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> Sent from my iPhone SE
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> On Feb 21, 2020, at 5:33 PM, "sherrywells1...@gmail.com"
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> 
> Hello all,
>
> I’m asking this for a friend as I do not have this problem but don’t 
> know what setting is involved to stop it.  He has an IPhone 8 & uses 
> the fingerprint to sign in.  Still he always gets a pop up asking for 
> his Apple ID & password.  How can he turn that off?
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> Thanks,
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Hello all,

 

I'm asking this for a friend as I do not have this problem but don't know
what setting is involved to stop it.  He has an IPhone 8 & uses the
fingerprint to sign in.  Still he always gets a pop up asking for his Apple
ID & password.  How can he turn that off?

 

Thanks,

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RE: Using the Uber App to Dispute A Charge

[sherrywells1157]

I’m not sure about the problem detailed by Marie.  For me, I got 2 separate 
email receipts for the same ride.  I have only been using Uber for a few months 
& have always only gotten one email receipt per trip.  My trip history did show 
only one trip.  I didn’t think the sum of my trips totaled the amount on a gift 
card I had for Uber.  I could find no way to see what had been charged to the 
gift card for sure.  I’m assuming the duplicate receipt was some sort of error 
& not a duplicate charge.  I would just feel better if I could have someone 
from Uber verify that for me.  When I finally found the dispute charges screen 
& filled it in including a comment, I could not get the submit button to work; 
it remained dimmed.  I’ve tried several times with the same result.  I plan to 
find someone who is a frequent Uber user & see if they can figure it out.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 4:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using the Uber App to Dispute A Charge

 

I am curious how this happens when the price for your ride is displayed before 
you book it and I can’t see how it can double.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Using the Uber App to Dispute A Charge

 

Well I finally stumbled onto the path to stating my issue within the app. But 
to tell the truth, I had to jump through so many hoops, I am not exactly sure 
how I ever reached the right place. What I remember is that you first go to the 
section which is to dispute your fare. Somewhere you will find an option 
saying”I have a different issue” and eventually you will find a text field to 
type in the problem. Once you have submitted that, the rest of the process is 
done via email and quite simple. 

Unfortunately they upheld the outrageous fare I was charged, but did agree to 
refund 1/4 of the total. Better than nothing but I have never had any such 
thing happen with Lyft and I will use up my credits with Uber and not ever use 
their services unless there is some sort of emergency reason. charging $33.52 
for a ride I have never paid more than $16 at the busiest times is practically 
criminal and I am still furious with them.

Marie

 

From: Terri Hedgpeth 

Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:39 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Using the Uber App to Dispute A Charge

 

Hey guys,

Do you know the best way they say to get to a company is your social media. So 
go onto Uber’s Facebook page and blast them about shooting blind people

 

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 3:35 PM mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

 

I tried to use the Uber app to dispute a charge with no luck.  I’m hoping 
someone can help.  I had a $50 gift card so my charges were going there.  My 
first question is is there any way to see the charges against the card?  I can 
find my ride history & it only shows one ride today.  Yet I received 2 separate 
receipts via email for this one ride.  My credit card is showing a partial 
charge so that means the gift card has maxed out.  Per my calculations this 
should not be so.

 

I found the dispute charge section by going to the help menu.  I filled in my 
name, date for ride #1 then date for ride #2.  I left ride #3 blank.  I filled 
in the comment.  After doing all this the submit button remained dimmed so I 
could not submit.  I looked all over the page to find what I could have missed 
but found nothing.  Any ideas?  

 

This is why being able to call & talk to a person would be helpful.

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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Using the Uber App to Dispute A Charge

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Hello all,

 

I tried to use the Uber app to dispute a charge with no luck.  I'm hoping
someone can help.  I had a $50 gift card so my charges were going there.  My
first question is is there any way to see the charges against the card?  I
can find my ride history & it only shows one ride today.  Yet I received 2
separate receipts via email for this one ride.  My credit card is showing a
partial charge so that means the gift card has maxed out.  Per my
calculations this should not be so.

 

I found the dispute charge section by going to the help menu.  I filled in
my name, date for ride #1 then date for ride #2.  I left ride #3 blank.  I
filled in the comment.  After doing all this the submit button remained
dimmed so I could not submit.  I looked all over the page to find what I
could have missed but found nothing.  Any ideas?  

 

This is why being able to call & talk to a person would be helpful.

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: Phone number for Uber?

[sherrywells1157]

GO Go Grandparent is not only for seniors.  I know it is available for disabled 
people of all ages.  I don’t know if they have any restrictions on who can use 
them at all.  I must say whoever came up with that name wasn’t thinking…

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Georgie 
Mac
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 9:06 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Phone number for Uber?

 

So it is directed to the 65 and above?  I wouldn't qualify for that myself but 
I am sure that there are many that would be interested in knowing that bit of 
information.  I use uber all the time and luckily i haven't had any issues.  
This conversation is so enlightening.  I am curious for such a majorly big 
business how is it they stay in business if they don't make it easy for their 
customers to handle their their disputes in a timely manner?  

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:00:41 AM UTC-5, Kathy Brandt wrote:

There are some automated processes you can use for disputing through the app, 
but if your issue doesn’t fit into their categories, it’s not easy, 
particularly with Lyft, where it can be hit and miss operating the combo boxes, 
finding any place at all where you can write, and fulfilling the capcha in a 
timely manner. Just so that I can write with either of these places, I have 
just hijacked a category, explaining that, say, I haven’t lost anything, but 
there was nowhere else I could find to write to explain my situation, and such 
and such happened; a few times I’ve even said that these places need to make it 
easier to right in about problems.


On Feb 11, 2020, at 1:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  > 
wrote:

Just dispute it via the app.

 

From: vip...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:09 PM
To: VIPhone  >
Subject: Phone number for Uber?

 

Does anyone have a phone number to contact Uber? I have tried for over and hour 
to get a dispute lodged over an excessive fare on my ride earlier and am ready 
to scream. So please take pity on me if you have such a number.

Thanks,

Marie

 

IF MY BODY IS EVER FOUND ON A JOGGING TRAIL, JUST KNOW THAT I WAS MURDERED 
SOMEWHERE ELSE AND DUMPED THERE.

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RE: Text Selection in Rotor

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Yes, I made sure it was selected.  When it wasn’t in the rotor I went back in, 
unselected it & selected it again.  Still no luck.  I’ll call Apple support 
next.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text Selection in Rotor

 

If you are in an email or on a website there is no “edit” button.

I just had a look and for me Text Selection is definitely there in the rotor 
when I’m in an email, a text message etc.

Did you make double sure it’s actually selected to be in the rotor in the first 
place? You need to go to Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Rotor, then 
find text selection and make sure it says “selected”.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Text Selection in Rotor

 

Do you think you might get text selection by double tapping on edit and then 
turn your rotor to text selection? Seems like this issue came up before and 
someone suggested double tapping on edit.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Feb 4, 2020, at 9:30 PM, PRAMIT BHARGAVA mailto:pramit.vis...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello Sherry,

 

To add the Text Selection to your Rotor settings:

go to Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Rotor and check "Text 
Selection".  

 

Hope this helps

 

Pramit

 

 

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:50 PM mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

 

I’m using an IPhone 8 with the latest IOS.  I can’t seem to get text selection 
added to the rotor.  I go into accessibility / rotor & text selection is 
selected.  Yet when I use the rotor it is not there.  I unselected text 
selection & re-selected it but it is still not in the rotor.  Any ideas as to 
how I can get this added?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: Text Selection in Rotor

[sherrywells1157]

That will be my next thing to do.  First I try this list then Apple support.

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text Selection in Rotor

 

Yes, it should work in text messages, email, on the web in any browser, etc.

Have you called Apple support? 877-204-3930

Maybe if they did a screen share with you they could see what is happening as 
you turn the rotor.

 

 

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at:   www.turner42.com

 

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Subject: RE: Text Selection in Rotor

 

Thanks.   I’ve done this twice & text selection still does not show up on the 
rotor.  I tried it when in a text message.  It should work there to select 
text, right?

 

Sherry Wells

 

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PRAMIT BHARGAVA
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Text Selection in Rotor

 

Hello Sherry,

 

To add the Text Selection to your Rotor settings:

go to Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Rotor and check "Text 
Selection".  

 

Hope this helps

 

Pramit

 

 

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Hello all,

 

I’m using an IPhone 8 with the latest IOS.  I can’t seem to get text selection 
added to the rotor.  I go into accessibility / rotor & text selection is 
selected.  Yet when I use the rotor it is not there.  I unselected text 
selection & re-selected it but it is still not in the rotor.  Any ideas as to 
how I can get this added?

 

Thanks,

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RE: Text Selection in Rotor

[sherrywells1157]

Thanks.   I’ve done this twice & text selection still does not show up on the 
rotor.  I tried it when in a text message.  It should work there to select 
text, right?

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of PRAMIT 
BHARGAVA
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text Selection in Rotor

 

Hello Sherry,

 

To add the Text Selection to your Rotor settings:

go to Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Rotor and check "Text 
Selection".  

 

Hope this helps

 

Pramit

 

 

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:50 PM mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

 

I’m using an IPhone 8 with the latest IOS.  I can’t seem to get text selection 
added to the rotor.  I go into accessibility / rotor & text selection is 
selected.  Yet when I use the rotor it is not there.  I unselected text 
selection & re-selected it but it is still not in the rotor.  Any ideas as to 
how I can get this added?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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Text Selection in Rotor

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Hello all,

 

I'm using an IPhone 8 with the latest IOS.  I can't seem to get text
selection added to the rotor.  I go into accessibility / rotor & text
selection is selected.  Yet when I use the rotor it is not there.  I
unselected text selection & re-selected it but it is still not in the rotor.
Any ideas as to how I can get this added?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

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I second what Christopher says. And isn’t it nice that we can easily help 
someone?  This topic hasn’t generated as much mail as many others that have 
veered off topic.  And there would have been even less without the sarcastic 
request for the name of the list.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 6:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Janet Bell 
Subject: Re: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

 

I see the name of the list at the bottom of every message, and it's also 
obviously in the email address of the posts to and from this list. The original 
poster also apologized for an off topic post to an iPhone list, which you'll 
see in the thread below. This doesn't make it right to make off topic posts, 
but it also doesn't mean it needs to be pointed out. IMHO, let the moderator 
deal with off topic posts.

 

On 12/2/19 4:59 AM, Janet Bell wrote:

yes it was because for once the sender’s email didn’t say which list but just 
another question what has getting a guide dog got to do with an iPhone list?

 

From: Christopher Chaltain 

Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 10:48 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   ; Janet Bell 

Subject: Re: Guide dog in United States-help me Please 

 

Assuming your question is sincere, this is the ViPhone mailing list.

 

On 12/2/19 4:41 AM, Janet Bell wrote:

can someone please remind me of the name of this list as I seem to have 
forgotten it.

 

From: Avnish Chopra 

Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 4:35 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Guide dog in United States-help me Please  

 

 

 

 

To all the kind and wonderful ladies and gentlemen who helped answer my 
question – Thank you very much! Really appreciate your help and understanding.

To the others who thought it was a joke or made fun of my question, I wish they 
would read the rules of this group which I quote below: 

“ If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 

you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.”

But then, perhaps this set of individuals revels in rebellion! Best of luck to 
them! 

Best wishes & many blessings!

 





 





On 01-Dec-2019, at 11:29 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Got my dog from Leader Dogs in 95 as well. At the time, I was living in 
Mexico. They were I think at the time one of if not the only guide dog school 
that accepted international students. 

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2019 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Guide dog in United States-help me Please  

Dave, that Amazon comment was very ignorant and entirely inappropriate.
Kiruna is from India and you may want to remember that not everybody knows 
about everything.
I am in Canada and I get lots of people who ask me where I got my guide dog 
from, how much they are and if I have to pay for them.
And just in case this is something you didn't know, India is part of the 
Commonwealth just as Canada, Australia, Pakistan, Nigeria and other countries 
are so maybe it would be possible for somebody from a Commonwealth country 
where there is no guide dog school to apply to a guide dog school in another 
Commonwealth country and be accepted to get a dog. I am not saying this is so, 
but it is certainly possible.
I am in Canada yet I can apply at any US guide dog school to get a dog if I so 
choose even though we have several guide dog schools in Canada. My first dog 
was from Leader Dogs for the Blind in Rochester, Michigan and among the I think 
24 people who were there in my group to get dogs 4 came from Spain on some 
arrangement the Spanish government or maybe it was some sort of Spanish not for 
profit group had with Leader Dogs.

Since nobody explained to Kiruna what the usual process is to get a guide dog, 
I will do so in general terms.
You apply to a guide dog school, if it is the first time you get a dog from 
them they typically would visit you where you live, they would want to see your 
home and where you work (if you work) and they would also want to see you walk 
around with a cane or your previous guide dog if you currently have one to 
assess your mobility skills and so on.
If they accept you, they will at some point let you know when you can get a 
dog, some schools have fairly long waiting lists. Once you get the date you 
have to go to the school for typically a 3-week training course where you get 
to know your dog and your dog gets to know you. Walking with a guide dog 
requires training just as walking with a cane does and if you have never had a 
dog you have to of 

RE: unable to send text messages to several contacts

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Hello Lynda,

This seems to be a common problem when sending to an Android phone.  Try one of 
the following:
1)  If using Siri to send texts, send a message & get the undelivered response. 
 The message is now in your message app.  Leave it there & send the message 
again.  I have always had the message send once there is a message in my 
messages app.
2) Go to the regular message app & send it from there.  This seems to work more 
consistently than Siri.

Some people have had no luck with either of these solutions.  Hope your luck is 
better.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynda 
Ingraham
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 2:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: unable to send text messages to several contacts

happy Thanksgiving everyone.

My brother is having problems with his iPhone six. He has the current operating 
system. He has a friend that he can call on the phone but he cannot text. We 
deleted the contact re-entered it and it still will not work. I believe the 
person is using an android phone. I am totally at a loss. Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Lynda

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RE: Issue with making phone calls via Siri voice command

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I’ve had this happen a few times.  Turning the phone off then back on has 
always resolved the problem.  If you’ve tried this already, then I’d suggest 
calling Apple support.

 

Good luck,

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Issue with making phone calls via Siri voice command

 

Hello list,

So for the past few days, I’ve been experiencing an odd issue on my iPhone SE 
running iOS 13.2.3 . For some reason, I am unable to initiate phone calls via 
Siri. Be it with a direct command to dial XXX or call so and so. Same goes if I 
want to tell Siri to make a call via Google Voice with the new Siri command 
integration Google recently introduced. It did work fine up until this problem.

I’ve changed nothing in my Siri permissions or any other settings and Siri 
otherwise works perfectly fine. Dictation, asking questions, etc. Also, I can 
make calls if I manually punch in the number. It’s just when I try telling Siri 
to make a call, I’ll get this weird hanging behavior to please wait… Just a 
minute until it times out and  am told that sorry, can’t establish a 
connection. I have tried restarting the phone too, but no dice. Once or twice, 
I was able to make a call, but that was the rare exception. 

This phone’s on Ting which is  a GSM/CDMA MVNO. The phone itself is an unlocked 
GSM model. 

Anyone else come across this behavior? Any ideas on a solution? 

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 

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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

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Right but in my attempt to be flexible, I’d be happy with a My Accounts tab 
replacing the old Updates tab.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

For whatever it’s worth, there never was a My Account tab, but there was the 
Updates tab, My Account always was a button at the top.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

LOL – you are correct.  I will get used to this just as I am getting used to 
the feel of the different home button on the 8 vs the 5.  I would still prefer 
a My Account tab rather than both a games & arcade tab.  That is no doubt my 
age showing!

 

Sherry Wells

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

To me it makes little difference whether I have to double tap on an “Update” 
tab at the bottom somewhere or the “My Account” button near the top.

I think in a way it makes sense also to put the updates in the same area as 
your purchased apps and personalized redcommendations.

When something was the same for years and it then changes it takes a few days 
to get used to it and after that you won’t think about it any more unless you 
are somebody who dislikes change of any kind as a principle.

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sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

That did it.  I had touched the screen before swiping.  This time I waited to 
hear the date & swiped before touching anything.  

 

You would think that something one does fairly frequently like updating apps 
would be a tab rather than both games & arcades each having their own tab.  Of 
course that is only my opinion, worthless as it is to Apple!

 

Thanks much for the direction.

Sherry Wells

 

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Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.

 

 

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Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

Hello all,

 

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?  

 

Thanks,

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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

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LOL – you are correct.  I will get used to this just as I am getting used to 
the feel of the different home button on the 8 vs the 5.  I would still prefer 
a My Account tab rather than both a games & arcade tab.  That is no doubt my 
age showing!

 

Sherry Wells

 

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Weitzel
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To me it makes little difference whether I have to double tap on an “Update” 
tab at the bottom somewhere or the “My Account” button near the top.

I think in a way it makes sense also to put the updates in the same area as 
your purchased apps and personalized redcommendations.

When something was the same for years and it then changes it takes a few days 
to get used to it and after that you won’t think about it any more unless you 
are somebody who dislikes change of any kind as a principle.

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That did it.  I had touched the screen before swiping.  This time I waited to 
hear the date & swiped before touching anything.  

 

You would think that something one does fairly frequently like updating apps 
would be a tab rather than both games & arcades each having their own tab.  Of 
course that is only my opinion, worthless as it is to Apple!

 

Thanks much for the direction.

Sherry Wells

 

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Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.

 

 

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Hello all,

 

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?  

 

Thanks,

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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

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That did it.  I had touched the screen before swiping.  This time I waited to 
hear the date & swiped before touching anything.  

 

You would think that something one does fairly frequently like updating apps 
would be a tab rather than both games & arcades each having their own tab.  Of 
course that is only my opinion, worthless as it is to Apple!

 

Thanks much for the direction.

Sherry Wells

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.

 

 

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Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

Hello all,

 

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

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OK, I went to the app store & was on the apps tab.  When I swipe right it 
starts going through all the available apps.  I hear the app name then get 
repeatedly.  I tried a couple other tabs but am not hearing my account.  I do 
not have a home tab.  The tab to the farthest left is Today & it says one of 5.

 

I have not tried your second method yet as it does sound like a pain.  

 

What am I doing wrong?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

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Weitzel
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After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.

 

 

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Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

Hello all,

 

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?  

 

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How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[sherrywells1157]

Hello all,

 

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS
12 something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the
update tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app
store & there is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games,
Apps, Arcade & search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but
found no way to do updates.  I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.  How do
I update apps?  

 

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RE: Need to Create Group for Texting

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How would I use control C & V on the phone??  

 

I talked to Apple help & they told me that you just have to type in new names & 
phone numbers to add them to a group.  There’s not much of a point in doing 
this however as you cannot send a message to a group using the message app.  I 
just had to manually create a message with all the names in it & send.  Another 
reason to never clean out ones message app…  I will definitely keep this 
message there for future use.  Meanwhile Apple would do well to create a way to 
create a group & be able to send messages to that group.

 

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Need to Create Group for Texting

 

You should be able to select names in your contacts folder, control-C to copy, 
navigate to groups folder and paste with control-V.

 

Cher

 

 

 

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Subject: Need to Create Group for Texting

 

Hi All,

 

I used to have an app on my phone that I used to send group texts.  It was very 
easy to use.  It appears that I must have deleted it as I can’t find it & of 
course can’t remember the name.  So first, can anyone recommend an ap for 
texting a group that is accessible & easy to use.  

 

I noticed in my contacts that I have a group set up called cousins.  I figured 
out how to bring up a list of people in the group but not how to add someone.  
When I click on add it just says new contact.  Isn’t there some way to select 
people to add to the group from my contacts list?  And when I tried to tell 
Siri to send a message to this group, she doesn’t know what I’m talking about.  

 

I’d like to do whatever is fastest as we have someone in the hospital & I’d 
like to be able to send out a group message with updates.  

 

Any help is appreciated!

Sherry Wells

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Need to Create Group for Texting

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Hi All,

 

I used to have an app on my phone that I used to send group texts.  It was
very easy to use.  It appears that I must have deleted it as I can't find it
& of course can't remember the name.  So first, can anyone recommend an ap
for texting a group that is accessible & easy to use.  

 

I noticed in my contacts that I have a group set up called cousins.  I
figured out how to bring up a list of people in the group but not how to add
someone.  When I click on add it just says new contact.  Isn't there some
way to select people to add to the group from my contacts list?  And when I
tried to tell Siri to send a message to this group, she doesn't know what
I'm talking about.  

 

I'd like to do whatever is fastest as we have someone in the hospital & I'd
like to be able to send out a group message with updates.  

 

Any help is appreciated!

Sherry Wells

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RE: Urgent, yahoo mail?

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I have an old email from Ameritech that I just use for stores & restaurant 
coupons & announcements.  I frequently get these messages from Yahoo telling me 
I need to recertify my email or it will be stopped.  I had one saying they were 
holding emails until I recertified.  I have never clicked on these emails & I 
continue to get emails on this account.  Some of the emails telling me I have 
to update or recertify immediately have spelling or grammar errors.  I would 
ignore these emails.  Call your provider if possible or switch to another email 
that doesn't seem to have these issues like gmail for one.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Urgent, yahoo mail?

I gree, it sounds like a hoax to me. It's true they are making a number of 
changes at yahoo, but this doesn't sound right.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Urgent, yahoo mail?


Definitely sounds like a hoax, if she checks the email this message actually 
came from it would most likely be clear.
Having said this, nobody in my opinion should use Yahoo for their email, I have 
never seen so many security issues or read about so many security problems with 
Gmail or Outlook.com as I have with Yahoo mail. Almost always when I get an 
email from somebody I know which are some sort of spam they have a Yahoo 
account, you know, the kind where it says "Hey, I'm on holiday in France and 
all my stuff was stolen, can you please send me some money".

-Original Message-
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alvarado
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 9:49 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Urgent, yahoo mail?

Hi, asking for a friend. She got a message from yahoo that they were changing 
their mail and if she didn't login to Yahoo and change her mail she would be 
suspended. She wants to know if this might be a hoax. If anyone has any info 
about this help is appreciated. She must fix it by tomorrow so it is urgent. 
Thanks.


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RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

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None of the texts I have sent that have been undelivered have had audio or 
pictures attached.  And I have always had send as SMS turned on.  Again, the 
only thing I have found that has consistently worked is to leave messages to 
the problem people in my messages app.  Since this workaround has worked 100%, 
I have not bothered to call Apple support.

 

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

Are your message involving photos or audio?

Make sure Send as MMS is also on.

And, my mantra, have you called Apple Accessibility? 

 

Richard

 

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Check out my web site at:   www.turner42.com

 

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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:52 AM
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Okay, Sherry, I get it now. I, too, am one who likes an empty inbox. I shall 
adopt your suggestion. Thanks.

 

Susie

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 8:54 AM
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You’re right – this shouldn’t be the case.  But it works so I leave messages to 
Android users in my messages app & don’t have any more problems sending texts 
to them.

 

Sherry Wells

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:10 AM
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That shouldn’t have to be the case.

 

I like to empty my inbox.

 

 

 

From: sherrywells1...@gmail.com   

Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 1:41 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

No, the first one won’t be resent but any subsequent ones will go through.  And 
if you leave messages there, the next time you want to send a message it will 
go through the first time.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

So if I send another message, the first one, the one that failed to send, will 
be sent? 

 

But what if I only want to send one message, like “I’ll be there in ten 
minutes”?

 

Susie

 

 

“No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.” –Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

I have just left messages to Android owners in my messages ap.  Once a message 
is there, any subsequent message you send seems to go just fine.  I have had to 
just overcome my tendency to clean out my messages!

 

Sherry Wells

 

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Susie Stageberg
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

Hi all.

 

Did we ever come up with a solution for text messages that do not get sent to 
recipients who have Android phones? There is NO, I repeat NO, “retry” button on 
my screen. The person I text most often has an Android phone.

 

Do I need to download a third-party texting app to send texts to Android 
phones? And can I just say, what the heck is Apple playing at here?

 

Susie, who is a bit frustrated, if you can’t tell.

 

 

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RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

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You’re right – this shouldn’t be the case.  But it works so I leave messages to 
Android users in my messages app & don’t have any more problems sending texts 
to them.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

That shouldn’t have to be the case.

 

I like to empty my inbox.

 

 

 

From: sherrywells1...@gmail.com   

Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 1:41 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

No, the first one won’t be resent but any subsequent ones will go through.  And 
if you leave messages there, the next time you want to send a message it will 
go through the first time.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

So if I send another message, the first one, the one that failed to send, will 
be sent? 

 

But what if I only want to send one message, like “I’ll be there in ten 
minutes”?

 

Susie

 

 

“No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.” –Eleanor Roosevelt

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
 
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

I have just left messages to Android owners in my messages ap.  Once a message 
is there, any subsequent message you send seems to go just fine.  I have had to 
just overcome my tendency to clean out my messages!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

Hi all.

 

Did we ever come up with a solution for text messages that do not get sent to 
recipients who have Android phones? There is NO, I repeat NO, “retry” button on 
my screen. The person I text most often has an Android phone.

 

Do I need to download a third-party texting app to send texts to Android 
phones? And can I just say, what the heck is Apple playing at here?

 

Susie, who is a bit frustrated, if you can’t tell.

 

 

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RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

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No, the first one won’t be resent but any subsequent ones will go through.  And 
if you leave messages there, the next time you want to send a message it will 
go through the first time.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
Stageberg
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

So if I send another message, the first one, the one that failed to send, will 
be sent? 

 

But what if I only want to send one message, like “I’ll be there in ten 
minutes”?

 

Susie

 

 

“No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.” –Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

I have just left messages to Android owners in my messages ap.  Once a message 
is there, any subsequent message you send seems to go just fine.  I have had to 
just overcome my tendency to clean out my messages!

 

Sherry Wells

 

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Susie Stageberg
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

Hi all.

 

Did we ever come up with a solution for text messages that do not get sent to 
recipients who have Android phones? There is NO, I repeat NO, “retry” button on 
my screen. The person I text most often has an Android phone.

 

Do I need to download a third-party texting app to send texts to Android 
phones? And can I just say, what the heck is Apple playing at here?

 

Susie, who is a bit frustrated, if you can’t tell.

 

 

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RE: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

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I have just left messages to Android owners in my messages ap.  Once a message 
is there, any subsequent message you send seems to go just fine.  I have had to 
just overcome my tendency to clean out my messages!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
Stageberg
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Revisiting: Messages Not Being Sent

 

Hi all.

 

Did we ever come up with a solution for text messages that do not get sent to 
recipients who have Android phones? There is NO, I repeat NO, “retry” button on 
my screen. The person I text most often has an Android phone.

 

Do I need to download a third-party texting app to send texts to Android 
phones? And can I just say, what the heck is Apple playing at here?

 

Susie, who is a bit frustrated, if you can’t tell.

 

 

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RE: Undelivered text messages

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There was a long discussion of this problem recently.  Are the ones not sending 
by any chance Android users?  It seems to be a common problem that when you 
send to an Android user the message says undeliverable.  Some people reported 
that the message did go through in spite of the undeliverable message.  It 
seems that once a message is in your message app, it will send fine in 
subsequent tries to that person.  Also, someone said it will work if you use 
the send message / dictate option rather than Siri.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karl 
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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Undelivered text messages

 

I have a couple of people in my contact list who, whenever I send them a text 
message it comes back immediately as undelivered. If I go back into the message 
and hit the try again button it sends just fine. Any idea why this might be?

 

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RE: Sending a text to more than one person at a time

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I use Siri for this.  Just say send message to person A and Person B and person 
C.  If you are going to be sending messages to the same group frequently, you 
might want to create a group.

Sherry Wells

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Subject: Sending a text to more than one person at a time

How do I send a text message to more than one recipient at a time? Can Siri do 
this? If I do it manually, how do I separate the recipients?
  Many thanks.

Susie


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RE: Texting Problem

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Do you leave the unsent text in your messages app?  If not, try leaving it 
there.  I find that if someone has messages in my messages app, the message 
goes through.  Also, apparently using the dictate option in the send message 
screen seems to work when using Siri does not.

 

This does seem to be a common problem as indicated in a whole string of posts 
on this topic recently.

 

Good luck,

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bonnie 
Blose
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Texting Problem

 

I am having a strange problem with texts. I can send most without difficulty, 
but a close friend of mine who does have an IPhone is the one person I geg a  
failure to send every time I try. She just got an Iphone about six months ago. 
Before updates, we were exchanging them just fine. I don't know if she can send 
me one.

 

I have turned my phone off and that did not help my problem with my friend. It 
did repair the problem to a degree, because I did discover I could not send a 
text to anyone without a failure notice. After I turned the phone off and then 
back on, it straightened out the problem with  everyone except for this one 
friend. 

 

Bonnie Blose

 

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Subject: How to Fix Call Volume Obscuring VoiceOver on iPhone 7

 

Hey Guys,

I don’t own an iPhone myself, I have an iPad Mini 4, so I have not encountered 
this problem personally. I’m asking for a friend of mine. She is pretty new to 
the iPhone and got an iPhone 7. She says that one frustration she is having is 
that when she calls a number and is prompted to enter numbers on the keypad 
with an automated system, she can’t hear what Voiceover is saying because the 
call audio is too loud.

Can anyone advise me on what to tell her as to how to bring down the call 
volume or bring up the Voiceover volume so she can hear what she is entering on 
the screen?

Thanks a bunch.

Evan

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

[sherrywells1157]

I think it works on the retry because the message has been added to your 
message app.  

Sherry Wells

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 6:20 PM
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Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

When I get the message that the text failed to send, I then double tap to 
re-try or cancel.  Usually it will go through on the re-try. 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

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I’m on Verizon.  So it appears this is not a carrier issue unless multiple 
carriers have the same problem.  Interesting that some of us seem to get a 
message not delivered notification but the message still went through.  In my 
case, and I have checked probably 20+ occurrences, the message was never 
delivered.  Now I just leave messages in the message app.  If I try to send to 
someone that I have sent a message to in the past & the message is still in my 
message app, it always goes through.

 

Also, several people have mentioned that they don’t have this problem if they 
don’t use Siri to send the message.  In my case, I have always used Siri.  I 
will have to try to type in a message to someone with an Android who has no 
message in my message app & see what happens.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I've got T-Mobile and this happens to  me as well. I'm not sure where the 
problem is coming from.

 

 

Deidre

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Susie Stageberg
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

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Interesting – none of my fail to send messages made it to the recipient.  An 
inconsistent bug is always harder to resolve!

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
Stageberg
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

The message I sent today, through Siri, arrived despite the message. The other 
one I sent last week, on which I got the error message, I did manually.

 

So my conclusion is that this “failed to send” message is erroneous. An 
erroneous error message. Imagine that. I figure it can safely be ignored, 
except that if a message really does fail to send, how would we know?

 

Susie

 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Scott
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have had this problem as well. I just go in and do it manually. Unless 
there's a workaround that I don't know about. 

Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 

 


On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Susie Stageberg mailto:sstagebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

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Yes, Send as SMS is on.  I checked it when I first started having this problem. 
 Hopefully this may help others though.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Check your Settings, Messages, and make sure Send as SMS is turned on. This 
will send your texts as SMS messages when iMessage is unavailable.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I have the same issue.  This seems to happen when I try to text those who do 
not have an IPhone.  Every single one I have investigated has an Android.  Once 
there is a text in the messages app, the next message seems to send just fine.  
So, for example, I send a message to ABC  & it fails.  I send it again & it 
works.  As long as I leave these messages in the message app, I can 
successfully send another message to ABC next week.  If I were to delete the 
messages from the message app, the whole process would start again.  

 

This is very annoying & I have not found a setting I can change to fix it.

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
nancy Lynn
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I’ve gotten the same message from my iPhone 7 when I’d send a text to someone 
in my contacts. I also text through Siri and don’t understand this problem. Can 
anyone explain?

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com  

From: Susie Stageberg   

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:31 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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RE: "Message Failed to Send"

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I have the same issue.  This seems to happen when I try to text those who do 
not have an IPhone.  Every single one I have investigated has an Android.  Once 
there is a text in the messages app, the next message seems to send just fine.  
So, for example, I send a message to ABC  & it fails.  I send it again & it 
works.  As long as I leave these messages in the message app, I can 
successfully send another message to ABC next week.  If I were to delete the 
messages from the message app, the whole process would start again.  

 

This is very annoying & I have not found a setting I can change to fix it.

 

Sherry Wells

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of nancy 
Lynn
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Message Failed to Send"

 

I’ve gotten the same message from my iPhone 7 when I’d send a text to someone 
in my contacts. I also text through Siri and don’t understand this problem. Can 
anyone explain?

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com  

From: Susie Stageberg   

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:31 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: "Message Failed to Send"

 

Twice in the last week, I have sent text messages from the phone (7 plus?) and 
have gotten back a message saying “message failed to send.” In the first case, 
the message was indeed sent, as I got a reply. Today, I had Siri send the 
message, to someone in my contacts, and still got the error message. (don’t 
know yet whether recipient got the message sent today.)

 

What’s up? Is this an issue with my carrier (Consumer Cellular) or the phone 
itself? Why would it fail to send if I had Siri do it? 

 

Susie

 

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