Re: iCloud Backup

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

You don't have to turn off automatic backups to do one yourself. Choose the 
Apple ID button at the top of Settings, then iCloud, then Backup. You can do a 
backup from that screen at any time as well as turn automatic backups on or off.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 16, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
> wrote:
> 
>> Where is the setting to turn off automatic backups so that I can do it 
>> myself?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The phone doesn't have to be locked to do a manual backup. It's just that 
>> automatic backups only happen when it's locked.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
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>> Hi, All,
>> 
>> Is it possible to do an iCloud backup without the phone being locked? Now it 
>> says the phone has to be locked, connected to power, and connnected to 
>> wi-fi. I never had to lock my phone to backup before this.
>> 
>> 
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Re: iCloud Backup

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,

Go to your device settings, Apple ID, iCloud, iCloud back up on and double tap 
it and there you have the option to activate the back up button to do a manual 
back up or to enable or disable automatic back up.

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> On Oct 16, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
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> 
> 
>> 
>> Where is the setting to turn off automatic backups so that I can do it 
>> myself?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The phone doesn't have to be locked to do a manual backup. It's just that 
>> automatic backups only happen when it's locked.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, All,
>> 
>> Is it possible to do an iCloud backup without the phone being locked? Now it 
>> says the phone has to be locked, connected to power, and connnected to 
>> wi-fi. I never had to lock my phone to backup before this.
>> 
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Re: iCloud Backup

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

> Where is the setting to turn off automatic backups so that I can do it myself?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 16, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The phone doesn't have to be locked to do a manual backup. It's just that 
> automatic backups only happen when it's locked.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
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> Hi, All,
> 
> Is it possible to do an iCloud backup without the phone being locked? Now it 
> says the phone has to be locked, connected to power, and connnected to wi-fi. 
> I never had to lock my phone to backup before this.
> 
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Re: iCloud Backup

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

The phone doesn't have to be locked to do a manual backup. It's just that 
automatic backups only happen when it's locked.

Best,
Anna




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Re: iCloud backup. Will my VDR library be restored from here?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Keith,

Open Settings in Voice Dream Reader, and go to Cloud Sync. Make sure "Sync 
library using iCloud" is on. If it is, your books will be backed up to iCloud 
and restored if you restore your iPhone.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 18, 2018, at 2:41 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
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> Hi,
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> I have VDR enabled as an app in iCloud storage. Does this mean when I 
> restored from this iCloud backup after resetting my phone, that my VDR 
> library will be restored?
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> I would very much like to avoid having to use iTunes and File Transfer for 
> this purpose.
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Re: ICloud backup of VDR is

[Gerardo Corripio]

I guess my Voice Dream library isn’t that big then. I’ve gone through 3 iPhones 
since Christmas2015 when Santa brought me VDR, and have transferred including 
Voice Dream Reader, to the point that it’s with the first books I uploaded!

Gera
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El 18 sep 2018, a la(s) 9:39 p. m., Mary Otten  escribió:

> I have subscribe to the 50 GB iCloud thing, but I also have a Mac. So I’m not 
> sure. It’s not really clear to me if you had a successful iCloud back up of 
> your device, but the Voice Dream Lee reader library messed up with that 
> sinking, how would you get that back on your phone? In other words, I just 
> don’t know that having enough iCloud space is sufficient to guarantee that 
> you’re going to get a good restoration if you got a new phone for instance.
> Mary
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>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
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>> I’ve been reading how you guys with Voice Dream Reader have an ICloud backup 
>> of your libraries, thus hoping you’ll could help. Is it normal that within 
>> my ICloud backup (in case I’d ever need to restore my phone from an ICloud 
>> backup) is 3GB, almost making my IPhone’s backup ICloud 4.8GB in size! I’m 
>> thus wondering if you’ll with extensive VDR libraries, to make ICloud 
>> backups of, just in case, have you needed to subscribe, to expand your 
>> ICloud space? Would the 50GB plan suffice, according to your experiences?  
>> Thanks in advance for ideas on this topic.
>> 
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Re: ICloud backup of VDR is

[Mary Otten]

I have subscribe to the 50 GB iCloud thing, but I also have a Mac. So I’m not 
sure. It’s not really clear to me if you had a successful iCloud back up of 
your device, but the Voice Dream Lee reader library messed up with that 
sinking, how would you get that back on your phone? In other words, I just 
don’t know that having enough iCloud space is sufficient to guarantee that 
you’re going to get a good restoration if you got a new phone for instance.
Mary


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> On Sep 18, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
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> I’ve been reading how you guys with Voice Dream Reader have an ICloud backup 
> of your libraries, thus hoping you’ll could help. Is it normal that within my 
> ICloud backup (in case I’d ever need to restore my phone from an ICloud 
> backup) is 3GB, almost making my IPhone’s backup ICloud 4.8GB in size! I’m 
> thus wondering if you’ll with extensive VDR libraries, to make ICloud backups 
> of, just in case, have you needed to subscribe, to expand your ICloud space? 
> Would the 50GB plan suffice, according to your experiences?  Thanks in 
> advance for ideas on this topic.
> 
> Gera
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RE: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Alan Lemly]

Kimber,

I still have a Mobile Applications folder on my computer which I can access 
with Windows Explorer but the latest date of any of the apps in it is October 
of 2017. Also, any apps I've installed since iTunes stopped supporting local 
backups aren't there.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

Admittedly, I haven't done an encrypted backup in a while. What do you mean by 
you can no longer backup apps to your local computer? Does that mean the mobile 
apps folder is no longer present in windows explorer?

I used to back up my apps folder before doing major apps updates just in case 
some of my favorite apps got broken. What a shame if that is no longer possible.


On 9/5/18, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Arnold and all,
>
> Home screen arrangements are restored with either type of backup. BARD 
> books are not saved in either kind of backup. The latest version of 
> apps is copied to your device whether you use an iCloud or iTunes backup.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:16 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>
>> As I said in another message, I will be delighted if I am wrong about 
>> the following. If one has any books saved in Kindle or Bard, they 
>> will not restore from iClouth and will have to be downloaded again, 
>> they will be restored from an encrypted backup. Also, any books in 
>> Voice Dream will not restore from ICloud, unless the iCloud storage 
>> feature in Voice Dream is enabled first. I hope Winston has gotten 
>> that feature to be more reliable now than it once was, I have read 
>> many threads about how people's libraries got all messed up by it. 
>> Again, it very well may be all right now. Any other books, such as 
>> those in  Learning Ally will not restore from iCloud, but should from 
>> an encrypted backup. Finally, I know that music is not backed up in 
>> ICloud. Your music library from Apple Music is there, but not any 
>> downloads. Any music on your device from cd's on your hard drive that 
>> were on the device will not be restored in an ICloud backup. If none 
>> of these things matter, then an ICloud backup is fine. An ICloud 
>> backup  surely is better than nothing,  if something goes wrong with 
>> your device when you are not near your home computer and you have to restore 
>> it.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner > <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you 
>> restore from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from 
>> the app store if you restore from them, so there isn't a speed 
>> advantage in restoring from iTunes either. I would suggest backing up 
>> with icloud on a regular basis and doing an encrypted iTunes backup 
>> before you get a new device so that if you have to restore from the 
>> backup, the iTunes one is available in case something is wrong with the 
>> iCloud one.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:22 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes 
>>> backups. Is there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted 
>>> iTunes backups?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Kimber Gardner]

Admittedly, I haven't done an encrypted backup in a while. What do you
mean by you can no longer backup apps to your local computer? Does
that mean the mobile apps folder is no longer present in windows
explorer?

I used to back up my apps folder before doing major apps updates just
in case some of my favorite apps got broken. What a shame if that is
no longer possible.


On 9/5/18, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Arnold and all,
>
> Home screen arrangements are restored with either type of backup. BARD books
> are not saved in either kind of backup. The latest version of apps is copied
> to your device whether you use an iCloud or iTunes backup.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:16 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>
>> As I said in another message, I will be delighted if I am wrong about the
>> following. If one has any books saved in Kindle or Bard, they will not
>> restore from iClouth and will have to be downloaded again, they will be
>> restored from an encrypted backup. Also, any books in Voice Dream will not
>> restore from ICloud, unless the iCloud storage feature in Voice Dream is
>> enabled first. I hope Winston has gotten that feature to be more reliable
>> now than it once was, I have read many threads about how people's
>> libraries got all messed up by it. Again, it very well may be all right
>> now. Any other books, such as those in  Learning Ally will not restore
>> from iCloud, but should from an encrypted backup. Finally, I know that
>> music is not backed up in ICloud. Your music library from Apple Music is
>> there, but not any downloads. Any music on your device from cd's on your
>> hard drive that were on the device will not be restored in an ICloud
>> backup. If none of these things matter, then an ICloud backup is fine. An
>> ICloud backup  surely is better than nothing,  if something goes wrong
>> with your device when you are not near your home computer and you have to
>> restore it.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore
>> from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store
>> if you restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring
>> from iTunes either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular
>> basis and doing an encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so
>> that if you have to restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available
>> in case something is wrong with the iCloud one.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:22 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes
>>> backups. Is there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted iTunes
>>> backups?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Alan and all,

How interesting that apps were loaded from your iTunes backup. When my daughter 
restored from an iTunes backup a year ago, all her apps were loaded from the 
cloud. That's why I thought they were always loaded from the cloud regardless 
of which kind of backup you do. I wish Apple would explain what's going on so 
we didn't have to guess!

Anna




> On Sep 5, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi Arnold,
>  
> I'm running iTunes 12.8.0.16 and also expected the latest version of my apps 
> to be downloaded from the cloud when I restored my iTunes encrypted backup to 
> my new iPhone 8. However, this isn't what happened. Even though you're ight 
> that iTunes no longer lets you backup apps to your local computer, I somehow 
> ended up with the same versions of my apps on my iPhone 8 that I had running 
> on my iPhone 7. I'm sure of this because when I went into updates on the Apps 
> Store, I still had over 70 apps listed there with newer versions. If all of 
> my apps had been downloaded with their most current versions, nothing should 
> have shown on the Apps Store update screen except apss that had a new release 
> uploaded very recently.
>  
> I was glad I had my iTunes backup because I initially selected restore from 
> the cloud backup as it didn't give me any other options except for setting it 
> up as a brand new phone and I knew I didn't want that. During the cloud 
> restore, I started getting prompts that the iPhone wanted the password for an 
> Apple ID that I did not recognize and was not my email address. When this 
> started happening, I launched iTunes and restored my encrypted backup which 
> ran overnight and returned everything to what I expected. Well, I had one app 
> that was no longer available in the Apps Store so that was not restored. So, 
> I'm confused how and where the apps are obtained when doing a restore from an 
> encrypted backup. My experience seems to say they come from the cloud but if 
> the apps are still available, you get whatever version you were running when 
> you backed up your device.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup
>  
> I  will be delighted if I am wrong about this, but starting with ITunes 12.7, 
> apps no longer  are backed up to an encrypted backup.  When one restores the 
> device, the  latest version of the app is restored to the device. Also, 
> remember that if you have spent any time arranging your home screens the way 
> you want them, or making folders for apps, I think  all that will be gone  
> and the apps will appear in alphabetical order.  I do not know if the 
> customized screens will be restored from an encrypted backup or not, I do not 
> think they are restored from an ICloud backup. They use to be restored from 
> an encrypted backup. 
>  
>  
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 1:16 AM, Kimberly  <mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>  
> The one advantage encrypted backups have is that you can return to a previous 
> version of an app it necessary. Say for example, accessibility is broken in a 
> later update or if the app should disappear from the app store, with an 
> encrypted backup you still have the older version. With iCloud you always get 
> the latest version of your apps. 
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
> go on.—Annie Proulx
> 
> On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner  <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Keith,
>>  
>> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore 
>> from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if 
>> you restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from 
>> iTunes either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and 
>> doing an encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you 
>> have to restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case 
>> something is wrong with the iCloud one.
>>  
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:22 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes backups. 
>> Is there still an advantage or adva

RE: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Arnold,

 

I'm running iTunes 12.8.0.16 and also expected the latest version of my apps to 
be downloaded from the cloud when I restored my iTunes encrypted backup to my 
new iPhone 8. However, this isn't what happened. Even though you're ight that 
iTunes no longer lets you backup apps to your local computer, I somehow ended 
up with the same versions of my apps on my iPhone 8 that I had running on my 
iPhone 7. I'm sure of this because when I went into updates on the Apps Store, 
I still had over 70 apps listed there with newer versions. If all of my apps 
had been downloaded with their most current versions, nothing should have shown 
on the Apps Store update screen except apss that had a new release uploaded 
very recently.

 

I was glad I had my iTunes backup because I initially selected restore from the 
cloud backup as it didn't give me any other options except for setting it up as 
a brand new phone and I knew I didn't want that. During the cloud restore, I 
started getting prompts that the iPhone wanted the password for an Apple ID 
that I did not recognize and was not my email address. When this started 
happening, I launched iTunes and restored my encrypted backup which ran 
overnight and returned everything to what I expected. Well, I had one app that 
was no longer available in the Apps Store so that was not restored. So, I'm 
confused how and where the apps are obtained when doing a restore from an 
encrypted backup. My experience seems to say they come from the cloud but if 
the apps are still available, you get whatever version you were running when 
you backed up your device.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

 

I  will be delighted if I am wrong about this, but starting with ITunes 12.7, 
apps no longer  are backed up to an encrypted backup.  When one restores the 
device, the  latest version of the app is restored to the device. Also, 
remember that if you have spent any time arranging your home screens the way 
you want them, or making folders for apps, I think  all that will be gone  and 
the apps will appear in alphabetical order.  I do not know if the customized 
screens will be restored from an encrypted backup or not, I do not think they 
are restored from an ICloud backup. They use to be restored from an encrypted 
backup. 

 

 

Arnold Schmidt 


On Sep 5, 2018, at 1:16 AM, Kimberly  wrote:

 

The one advantage encrypted backups have is that you can return to a previous 
version of an app it necessary. Say for example, accessibility is broken in a 
later update or if the app should disappear from the app store, with an 
encrypted backup you still have the older version. With iCloud you always get 
the latest version of your apps. 

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx


On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Keith,

 

Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore from 
a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if you 
restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from iTunes 
either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and doing an 
encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you have to 
restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case something is wrong 
with the iCloud one.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:22 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes backups. Is 
there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted iTunes backups?

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Arnold and all,

Home screen arrangements are restored with either type of backup. BARD books 
are not saved in either kind of backup. The latest version of apps is copied to 
your device whether you use an iCloud or iTunes backup.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 5, 2018, at 2:16 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> As I said in another message, I will be delighted if I am wrong about the 
> following. If one has any books saved in Kindle or Bard, they will not 
> restore from iClouth and will have to be downloaded again, they will be 
> restored from an encrypted backup. Also, any books in Voice Dream will not 
> restore from ICloud, unless the iCloud storage feature in Voice Dream is 
> enabled first. I hope Winston has gotten that feature to be more reliable now 
> than it once was, I have read many threads about how people's libraries got 
> all messed up by it. Again, it very well may be all right now. Any other 
> books, such as those in  Learning Ally will not restore from iCloud, but 
> should from an encrypted backup. Finally, I know that music is not backed up 
> in ICloud. Your music library from Apple Music is there, but not any 
> downloads. Any music on your device from cd's on your hard drive that were on 
> the device will not be restored in an ICloud backup. If none of these things 
> matter, then an ICloud backup is fine. An ICloud backup  surely is better 
> than nothing,  if something goes wrong with your device when you are not near 
> your home computer and you have to restore it.  
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
> 
> On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Keith,
> 
> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore 
> from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if 
> you restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from 
> iTunes either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and 
> doing an encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you 
> have to restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case 
> something is wrong with the iCloud one.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:22 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes backups. 
>> Is there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted iTunes backups?
>>  
>> Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Arnold Schmidt]

As I said in another message, I will be delighted if I am wrong about the 
following. If one has any books saved in Kindle or Bard, they will not restore 
from iClouth and will have to be downloaded again, they will be restored from 
an encrypted backup. Also, any books in Voice Dream will not restore from 
ICloud, unless the iCloud storage feature in Voice Dream is enabled first. I 
hope Winston has gotten that feature to be more reliable now than it once was, 
I have read many threads about how people's libraries got all messed up by it. 
Again, it very well may be all right now. Any other books, such as those in  
Learning Ally will not restore from iCloud, but should from an encrypted 
backup. Finally, I know that music is not backed up in ICloud. Your music 
library from Apple Music is there, but not any downloads. Any music on your 
device from cd's on your hard drive that were on the device will not be 
restored in an ICloud backup. If none of these things matter, then an ICloud 
backup is fine. An ICloud backup  surely is better than nothing,  if something 
goes wrong with your device when you are not near your home computer and you 
have to restore it.  

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Keith,

Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore from 
a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if you 
restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from iTunes 
either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and doing an 
encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you have to 
restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case something is wrong 
with the iCloud one.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 4, 2018, at 6:22 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
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> 
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>  
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> there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted iTunes backups?
>  
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Arnold Schmidt]

All your passwords will be restored if you have enabled keychain. Also, 
remember that wallet must be enabled to restore all your credit card 
information for Apple Pay,  along with any other data you may have in wallet. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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On Sep 4, 2018, at 11:26 PM, Robert Wright  wrote:

Are you saying that theiCloud backup stores all passwords just as the iTunes 
incripted backup?
 
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From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 6:25 PM
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Subject: Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup
 
Hi Keith,
 
Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore from 
a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if you 
restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from iTunes 
either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and doing an 
encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you have to 
restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case something is wrong 
with the iCloud one.
 
Best,
Anna
 


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I understand iCloud backups are getting close to encrypted iTunes backups. Is 
there still an advantage or advantages to encrypted iTunes backups?
 
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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Arnold Schmidt]

I  will be delighted if I am wrong about this, but starting with ITunes 12.7, 
apps no longer  are backed up to an encrypted backup.  When one restores the 
device, the  latest version of the app is restored to the device. Also, 
remember that if you have spent any time arranging your home screens the way 
you want them, or making folders for apps, I think  all that will be gone  and 
the apps will appear in alphabetical order.  I do not know if the customized 
screens will be restored from an encrypted backup or not, I do not think they 
are restored from an ICloud backup. They use to be restored from an encrypted 
backup. 


Arnold Schmidt 

On Sep 5, 2018, at 1:16 AM, Kimberly  wrote:


The one advantage encrypted backups have is that you can return to a previous 
version of an app it necessary. Say for example, accessibility is broken in a 
later update or if the app should disappear from the app store, with an 
encrypted backup you still have the older version. With iCloud you always get 
the latest version of your apps. 

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> On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Keith,
> 
> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore 
> from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if 
> you restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from 
> iTunes either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and 
> doing an encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you 
> have to restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case 
> something is wrong with the iCloud one.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Kimberly]

The one advantage encrypted backups have is that you can return to a previous 
version of an app it necessary. Say for example, accessibility is broken in a 
later update or if the app should disappear from the app store, with an 
encrypted backup you still have the older version. With iCloud you always get 
the latest version of your apps. 

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> On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Keith,
> 
> Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore 
> from a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if 
> you restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from 
> iTunes either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and 
> doing an encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you 
> have to restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case 
> something is wrong with the iCloud one.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
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>> Hi,
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>> Thanks in advance. Keith
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RE: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Robert Wright]

Are you saying that theiCloud backup stores all passwords just as the iTunes 
incripted backup?

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From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 6:25 PM
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Subject: Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

Hi Keith,

Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore from 
a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if you 
restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from iTunes 
either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and doing an 
encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you have to 
restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case something is wrong 
with the iCloud one.

Best,
Anna



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Re: iCloud backup versus encrypted iTunes backup

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Keith,

Both types of backups back up all of the same information. If you restore from 
a backup, even iTunes backups download your apps from the app store if you 
restore from them, so there isn't a speed advantage in restoring from iTunes 
either. I would suggest backing up with icloud on a regular basis and doing an 
encrypted iTunes backup before you get a new device so that if you have to 
restore from the backup, the iTunes one is available in case something is wrong 
with the iCloud one.

Best,
Anna


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Re: iCloud backup

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Even if you aren't using iCloud backup, you may be using iCloud to sync 
contacts, icloud.com  email messages, Pages documents, and 
similar data. If so, that data would explain the numbers you are seeing.

It sounds like you have two options : buy more iCloud storage (you can get 50 
GB for $1 per month, or more for more money), or turn off iCloud backup and 
back up to your computer. If you turn iCloud backup off, your phone will back 
up to your computer automatically every time you connect it.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 19, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Iolaire  wrote:
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> Hi.  Can somebody answer a question for me please.  I have an iPhone 6, 
> 128gig model.  I got an iStick and placed around 15gig of music on the phone. 
>  Every time I charge the phone I'm told the phone hasn't been backed up for x 
> number of weeks, if I recall it says there is not enough space.  I went to 
> settings and I have the default storage of 5gig so I am well over the limit 
> just with my music.  This music is not in the iPhone music app but it is 
> stored in the iStick app.  Now although the iCloud settings said I had 5gig 
> of storage, when it tells me what I have left it says 4.9gig.  Now I'm 
> wondering, why is the  phone saying I have 4.9gig of storage left but it then 
> tells me the phone hasn't been backed up because there is not enough space?  
> When it comes to backing up, is it all or nothing? but if that is the case 
> then what is the 100mg that is up there since it says I have 4.9gig left.  If 
> it were all or nothing then I would imagine it would say I have 5gig left.  
> Answers I understand will be appreciated. LOL.  Walter.
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Re: iCloud backup

[Jenifer Barr]

One thing I wish it would back up is messages. There is no option to back up 
texts or iMessages. I wonder why? 

Jenifer Barr
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> On Sep 23, 2015, at 5:22 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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> OK, I don't have anything that does articles, so I'll just leave them all on! 
>  
>  
> Carol P
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:07 AM
> Subject: Re: iCloud backup
> 
> By default, all apps will back up to iCloud, as far as I know. The ones I 
> turn off are the ones that save *all* of their content online anyway. 
> Instapaper or Pocket, for instance, will pull all your articles, folders, and 
> so on from the internet once you log in, so there's no sense backing them up. 
> Same for Facebook, Messenger, Rooms, Twitter, Dice World, Skype, and others. 
> Of course, I did all this back in the caveman days of early 2015, way back 
> when I only had 5GB of iCloud space. Now that I'm paying a buck a month for 
> 50GB, I don't bother and let iCloud back up whatever it wants to. 
>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 16:29, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>> Another question springs from that one:   Which apps should we check to 
>> enable iCloud backup?
>>  
>> If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.
>>  
>> I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...
>>  
>> Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to 
>> know.
>>  
>> Carol P
>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Alex Hall
>>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: iCloud backup
>>> 
>>> They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back 
>>> up, of course.
>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
>>>> backup or only from iTunes backup?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Harry
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
>>>>> screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
>>>>> items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, 
>>>>> and so on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I 
>>>>> mean is that your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you 
>>>>> logged in. It will instead have you log in when you first open it, 
>>>>> because iCloud backups don't contain login details like that. I hope this 
>>>>> makes sense.
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Follow-up question:
>>>>>> If one just backs up to the cloud  regularly, not backing up 
>>>>>> using iTunes, and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will 
>>>>>> they have to manually download each app again from the App Store, then 
>>>>>> restore from the last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also 
>>>>>> get the App store to redownload all apps?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
>>>>>>> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. 
>>>>>>> For a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will 
>>>>>>> backup all your apps and data.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
>>>>>>> Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: iCloud backup
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its 
>>>>>>> apps and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like 
>>>&g

Re: iCloud backup

[Wayne Merritt]

I believe you can go into Settings/Messages, and choose to have
messsages kept for certain lengths of time, such as a week, a month,
or forever. I have changed this to forever, since there are some work
related messages that I need access to. I made the change several
years ago and whenever I have updated my iPhone or gotten a new phone
and restored from iCloud, all of my messages have been there. So far
this hasn't blown up my iCloud storage since I still have over half of
the free 5 gigs available. I backup many other things to iCloud too,
so it's not all saved messages.

Wayne

On 9/23/15, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One thing I wish it would back up is messages. There is no option to back up
> texts or iMessages. I wonder why?
>
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 5:22 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> OK, I don't have anything that does articles, so I'll just leave them all
>> on!  
>>
>> Carol P
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: iCloud backup
>>
>> By default, all apps will back up to iCloud, as far as I know. The ones I
>> turn off are the ones that save *all* of their content online anyway.
>> Instapaper or Pocket, for instance, will pull all your articles, folders,
>> and so on from the internet once you log in, so there's no sense backing
>> them up. Same for Facebook, Messenger, Rooms, Twitter, Dice World, Skype,
>> and others. Of course, I did all this back in the caveman days of early
>> 2015, way back when I only had 5GB of iCloud space. Now that I'm paying a
>> buck a month for 50GB, I don't bother and let iCloud back up whatever it
>> wants to. 
>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 16:29, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Another question springs from that one:   Which apps should we check
>>> to enable iCloud backup?
>>>
>>> If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.
>>>
>>> I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...
>>>
>>> Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to
>>> know.
>>>
>>> Carol P
>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Alex Hall
>>>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: iCloud backup
>>>>
>>>> They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back
>>>> up, of course.
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from
>>>>> iCloud backup or only from iTunes backup?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Harry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data,
>>>>>> home screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are
>>>>>> secure items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins
>>>>>> for apps, and so on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for
>>>>>> Safari; what I mean is that your Facebook app, for instance, won't
>>>>>> come up with you logged in. It will instead have you log in when you
>>>>>> first open it, because iCloud backups don't contain login details like
>>>>>> that. I hope this makes sense.
>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Follow-up question:
>>>>>>> If one just backs up to the cloud  regularly, not backing
>>>>>>> up using iTunes, and needs to restore the phone at some future time,
>>>>>>> will they have to manually download each app again from the App
>>>>>>> Store, then restore from the last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart
>>>>>>> enough to also get the App store to redownload all apps?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

Re: iCloud backup

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

OK, I don't have anything that does articles, so I'll just leave them all on!  


Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:07 AM
  Subject: Re: iCloud backup


  By default, all apps will back up to iCloud, as far as I know. The ones I 
turn off are the ones that save *all* of their content online anyway. 
Instapaper or Pocket, for instance, will pull all your articles, folders, and 
so on from the internet once you log in, so there's no sense backing them up. 
Same for Facebook, Messenger, Rooms, Twitter, Dice World, Skype, and others. Of 
course, I did all this back in the caveman days of early 2015, way back when I 
only had 5GB of iCloud space. Now that I'm paying a buck a month for 50GB, I 
don't bother and let iCloud back up whatever it wants to. 

On Sep 22, 2015, at 16:29, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Another question springs from that one:  Which apps should we check to 
enable iCloud backup?

If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.

I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...

Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to 
know.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
  Subject: Re: iCloud backup


  They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back 
up, of course.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:


Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from 
iCloud backup or only from iTunes backup?
Thanks
Harry

 

On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:


  An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, 
home screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and so 
on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is that 
your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It will 
instead have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups don't 
contain login details like that. I hope this makes sense.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:


Follow-up question:
If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using 
iTunes, and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the last 
iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store to 
redownload all apps?

Chris

 
At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:

  It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as 
contacts. For a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will 
backup all your apps and data.
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
  Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: iCloud backup
   
  Hi,
  Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of 
its apps and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… 
tthe checked items in iCloud in settings?
  Thx –Steve
   
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Re: iCloud backup

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An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home screen 
layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure items. That is, 
it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and so on. It will be 
unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is that your Facebook 
app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It will instead have you 
log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups don't contain login 
details like that. I hope this makes sense.
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart  wrote:
> 
> Follow-up question:
> If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes, and 
> needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to manually 
> download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the last iCloud 
> back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store to redownload 
> all apps?
> 
> Chris
> 
>  
> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
>> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For a 
>> true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup all 
>> your apps and data.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
>> Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iCloud backup
>>  
>> Hi,
>> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps and 
>> data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… tthe 
>> checked items in iCloud in settings?
>> Thx –Steve
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Re: iCloud backup

[Harry Bell]

Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud backup 
or only from iTunes backup?
Thanks
Harry

 

> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
> screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure items. 
> That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and so on. 
> It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is that your 
> Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It will instead 
> have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups don't contain 
> login details like that. I hope this makes sense.
>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart  wrote:
>> 
>> Follow-up question:
>> If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes, 
>> and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
>> manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the 
>> last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store to 
>> redownload all apps?
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>>  
>> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
>>> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For a 
>>> true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup all 
>>> your apps and data.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Steve Sweeney
>>> Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iCloud backup
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps 
>>> and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… tthe 
>>> checked items in iCloud in settings?
>>> Thx –Steve
>>>  
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Re: iCloud backup

[Alex Hall]

They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back up, of 
course.
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
> backup or only from iTunes backup?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>  
> 
> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
>> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
>> screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
>> items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and 
>> so on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is 
>> that your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It 
>> will instead have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups 
>> don't contain login details like that. I hope this makes sense.
>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Follow-up question:
>>> If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes, 
>>> and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
>>> manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the 
>>> last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store 
>>> to redownload all apps?
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>>  
>>> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
 It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For 
 a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup 
 all your apps and data.
  
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 Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: iCloud backup
  
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RE: iCloud backup

[Chris Smart]

Follow-up question:
If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes,
and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to
manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from
the last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App
store to redownload all apps?
Chris
 
At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
It does not back up apps, it
will back up your data such as contacts. For a true backup use iTunes and
backup the phone that way. That will backup all your apps and data.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Sweeney
Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud backup
 
Hi,
Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps
and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts…
tthe checked items in iCloud in settings?
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Re: iCloud backup

[Harry Bell]

Thanks, Alex - fingers crossed!

 

> On 22 Sep 2015, at 20:34, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back up, 
> of course.
>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
>> backup or only from iTunes backup?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
>>> screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
>>> items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and 
>>> so on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is 
>>> that your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It 
>>> will instead have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups 
>>> don't contain login details like that. I hope this makes sense.
 On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart  wrote:
 
 Follow-up question:
 If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes, 
 and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
 manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the 
 last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store 
 to redownload all apps?
 
 Chris
 
  
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> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For 
> a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup 
> all your apps and data.
>  
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> Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>  
> Hi,
> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps 
> and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… 
> tthe checked items in iCloud in settings?
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Re: iCloud backup

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Another question springs from that one:  Which apps should we check to enable 
iCloud backup?

If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.

I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...

Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to know.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
  Subject: Re: iCloud backup


  They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back up, 
of course.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:


Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
backup or only from iTunes backup?
Thanks
Harry

 

On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:


  An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure items. 
That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, and so on. It 
will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I mean is that your 
Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you logged in. It will instead 
have you log in when you first open it, because iCloud backups don't contain 
login details like that. I hope this makes sense.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:


Follow-up question:
If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using 
iTunes, and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from the last 
iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App store to 
redownload all apps?

Chris

 
At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:

  It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. 
For a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup 
all your apps and data.
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
  Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: iCloud backup
   
  Hi,
  Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its 
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Re: iCloud backup

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By default, all apps will back up to iCloud, as far as I know. The ones I turn 
off are the ones that save *all* of their content online anyway. Instapaper or 
Pocket, for instance, will pull all your articles, folders, and so on from the 
internet once you log in, so there's no sense backing them up. Same for 
Facebook, Messenger, Rooms, Twitter, Dice World, Skype, and others. Of course, 
I did all this back in the caveman days of early 2015, way back when I only had 
5GB of iCloud space. Now that I'm paying a buck a month for 50GB, I don't 
bother and let iCloud back up whatever it wants to. 
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 16:29, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Another question springs from that one:  Which apps should we check to enable 
> iCloud backup?
>  
> If in doubt I check mine, but am not always sure which to go for.
>  
> I guess the GPS apps that save POIs may be included ... or maybe not ...
>  
> Anyway, if anyone uses ones that definitely backup to iCloud, I'd like to 
> know.
>  
> Carol P
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: iCloud backup
>> 
>> They should be safe in your iCloud backup, so long as VDR is set to back up, 
>> of course.
>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 15:02, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:ubupanora...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will my books on Voice Dream Reader come back when restoring from iCloud 
>>> backup or only from iTunes backup?
>>> Thanks
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 22 Sep 2015, at 19:56, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> An iCloud backup will give you everything--apps and all their data, home 
>>>> screen layout, settings, all that. The only things it lacks are secure 
>>>> items. That is, it won't give you your wifi passwords, logins for apps, 
>>>> and so on. It will be unaffected by iCloud Keychain for Safari; what I 
>>>> mean is that your Facebook app, for instance, won't come up with you 
>>>> logged in. It will instead have you log in when you first open it, because 
>>>> iCloud backups don't contain login details like that. I hope this makes 
>>>> sense.
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 14:29, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca 
>>>>> <mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Follow-up question:
>>>>> If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes, 
>>>>> and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to 
>>>>> manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from 
>>>>> the last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App 
>>>>> store to redownload all apps?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
>>>>>> It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. 
>>>>>> For a true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will 
>>>>>> backup all your apps and data.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [ 
>>>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Sweeney
>>>>>> Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: iCloud backup
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps 
>>>>>> and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… 
>>>>>> tthe checked items in iCloud in settings?
>>>>>> Thx –Steve
>>>>>>  
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Re: iCloud backup?

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I had the same problem and think mine may have started before the upgrade as 
my iCloud backup kept disappearing from availability, or showing at all.


I could only think that I'd reset my WiFi connections but hadn't got round 
to re-writing my original phone name back into the About section.  This 
brought about some interesting times ...  I've now put the name back, 
hopefully exactly as it was before, and note that a backup too iCloud took 
place this morning.


If anyone can confirm I've done the right thing and explain the consequences 
of not doing so, this would be useful information.


Thanks.

I don't know if this sorts your problem, but perhaps it might.  I hope, 
anyway, that you find a solution.


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- Original Message - 
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To: "Abridged Recipients" 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 8:17 PM
Subject: iCloud backup?


Bizarre! Just now I noticed that the amount of iCloud storage i have used 
had suddenly dropped massively. I checked on my iPhone 5s and on my iPad Air 
and in settings, even though iCloud backup is turned on, each device claimed 
it had not been backed up for months - but I know this is untrue. My partner 
checked her iPhone 6 Plus and her iPad Air and she had exactly the same 
issue - her iPad even claimed it had never been backed up - which we both 
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increasing our iCloud storage quota to 50GB and in the process wiping out 
existing backups? Or iOS 9?

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RE: iCloud backup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Apps are not actually backed up when you do an iTunes backup and neither is 
music. Those are synced and the information as to which apps you have on your 
phone and where they are in terms of homescreen position or location in folders 
and so on is part of the backup. If you have to do a restore and you have 
synced with iTunes and done a backup, then the apps are synced back to your 
phone from iTunes. If you back up to iCloud the same is true except that 
instead of your apps syncing from iTunes they are redownloaded from the app 
store.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jesus Garcia
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iCloud backup

 

It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For a 
true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup all your 
apps and data.

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: iCloud backup

 

Hi,

Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps and 
data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts… the checked 
items in iCloud in settings?

Thx –Steve

 

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RE: iCloud backup

[Jesus Garcia]

It does not back up apps, it will back up your data such as contacts. For a 
true backup use iTunes and backup the phone that way. That will backup all your 
apps and data.

 

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Sent: September 18, 2015 17:35
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi,

Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps and 
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Re: iCloud backup?

[Wayne Merritt]

I noticed this as well on my iPhone 6 the night that I updated. I
wonder if it showed that message because for as long as the
phone/device has had iOS 9, it has not been backed up. That's my
working theory but I don't exactly know why it reports that. I just
looked in my iCloud settings, and even though my iPhone probably
backed up last night, it said "unknown" under last backup. Weird.

Wayne

On 9/18/15, Harry Bell  wrote:
> Bizarre! Just now I noticed that the amount of iCloud storage i have used
> had suddenly dropped massively. I checked on my iPhone 5s and on my iPad Air
> and in settings, even though iCloud backup is turned on, each device claimed
> it had not been backed up for months - but I know this is untrue. My partner
> checked her iPhone 6 Plus and her iPad Air and she had exactly the same
> issue - her iPad even claimed it had never been backed up - which we both
> know is untrue. Anyone else noticing this? Could it be caused by Apple
> increasing our iCloud storage quota to 50GB and in the process wiping out
> existing backups? Or iOS 9?
> Thanks
> Harry
>
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Re: iCloud backup problems

[Agent086b]

Hi,
I have 3gb available. I have signed out of iCloud and back in and notice still 
no backup.
Any other ideas please?
Thanks.
Max.

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 You only have 5 GB of free iCloud storage. Are you trying to back up more 
 than that? Under the iCloud settings, make sure to select only the 
 information that you want to back up to iCloud.pictures and videos that are 
 in your message application also try to back up to iCloud, so if you do not 
 want to back up those pictures and videos in the message conversations, be 
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 is anybody having problems backing up to iCloud. My last backup was on 14 
 Feb. I have been trying manual backups but I only get to about 50% and that 
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Re: iCloud backup problems

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Turn off iCloud backup and back your phone up to your computer. Then turn 
iCloud backup back on and try backing up again. When I had a similar problem, 
those steps fixed it.

Good luck,
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 Hello all,
 is anybody having problems backing up to iCloud. My last backup was on 14 
 Feb. I have been trying manual backups but I only get to about 50% and that 
 has taken over an hour today to get that far. My phone is an iPhone6 16gb. I 
 have about 7gb free on the phone so there is not much to backup.
 Does anybody have any ideas?
 Thanks for any advice.
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Re: iCloud backup problems

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You only have 5 GB of free iCloud storage. Are you trying to back up more than 
that? Under the iCloud settings, make sure to select only the information that 
you want to back up to iCloud.pictures and videos that are in your message 
application also try to back up to iCloud, so if you do not want to back up 
those pictures and videos in the message conversations, be sure to delete them 
or delete the message conversation.

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 On Feb 27, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
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 is anybody having problems backing up to iCloud. My last backup was on 14 
 Feb. I have been trying manual backups but I only get to about 50% and that 
 has taken over an hour today to get that far. My phone is an iPhone6 16gb. I 
 have about 7gb free on the phone so there is not much to backup.
 Does anybody have any ideas?
 Thanks for any advice.
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RE: iCloud backup question

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Yes, I'm on iOS 7, the latest version. I can't find what you're referring to. 
It still tells me I need an extra 8+ GB. I don't want to back up everything, 
just the basics like Calendar, Contacts, Reminders, etc.

Thanks for any help.

Keith



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 7:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud backup question

No, leave that on. It should be a button; double tapping it should open a 
screen where you can control exactly which apps get backed up, it should not be 
a toggle. Yes, there is a toggle inside the Documents and Data screen, but the 
button from the main iCloud settings screen should not be a toggle. Are you on 
iOS7?
On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edumailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:


Thanks.

I get to Documents and Data. I switch from On to Off, and it says, All 
Documents and Data stored in iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone.

I have nothing in iCloud yet. I'm guessing that I'm safe to keep Documents and 
Data switched off, since there's nothing there currently.

I guess I just need to double-check that nothing currently on my iPhone will be 
lost when this is checked.

Is that correct?

Thanks. Keith

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 6:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud backup question

You can just turn off certain apps. Go to your iCloud settings, then Storage 
and Backup, then Manage Backups. Double tap the name of the device to manage, 
and turn off any apps you don't want stored in iCloud. You can save a lot of 
space this way, with apps that either rely on other storage (like Dropbox) or 
apps whose data you don't care about.
On Jun 7, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edumailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:



Hi,

Trying to do my first backup to iCloud. I still have the 5.0GB available. It 
tells me I need an additional 8.5GB of storage.

I don't want to back up documents and data at this point, just the basics.

I did get a screen that said something like, after I unchecked Documents and 
Data, that Any data not backed up to iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone. I 
don't want anything deleted from my iPhone when I do a basic backup.

Can someone please help me with this?

Thanks in advance.

Keith


I get the message, This iPhone cannot be backed up because there is not enough 
iCloud storage available.





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Re: iCloud backup question

[Alex Hall]

If you really don't want app data backed up, than go ahead and turn it off. 
That means that, were you to restore an iCloud backup, you wouldn't get any of 
your apps - books and files in Voice Dream, locally stored documents in a word 
processor, and so on. Some apps now store your information and sync via iCloud 
anyway, but any that don't will not be restored.

That said, it's odd that you only have a toggle. As I said, I have a button, 
which lets me select which apps I don't want backed up. Turning off the big 
ones, like Bard Mobile, saves a lot of space in my backup. Anyone else unable 
to customize this?
On Jun 8, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 Yes, I'm on iOS 7, the latest version. I can't find what you're referring to. 
 It still tells me I need an extra 8+ GB. I don't want to back up everything, 
 just the basics like Calendar, Contacts, Reminders, etc.
  
 Thanks for any help.
  
 Keith
  
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Alex Hall
 Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 7:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iCloud backup question
  
 No, leave that on. It should be a button; double tapping it should open a 
 screen where you can control exactly which apps get backed up, it should not 
 be a toggle. Yes, there is a toggle inside the Documents and Data screen, but 
 the button from the main iCloud settings screen should not be a toggle. Are 
 you on iOS7?
 On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 
 Thanks.
  
 I get to Documents and Data. I switch from On to Off, and it says, All 
 Documents and Data stored in iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone.
  
 I have nothing in iCloud yet. I'm guessing that I'm safe to keep Documents 
 and Data switched off, since there's nothing there currently.
  
 I guess I just need to double-check that nothing currently on my iPhone will 
 be lost when this is checked.
  
 Is that correct?
  
 Thanks. Keith
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Alex Hall
 Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 6:06 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iCloud backup question
  
 You can just turn off certain apps. Go to your iCloud settings, then Storage 
 and Backup, then Manage Backups. Double tap the name of the device to manage, 
 and turn off any apps you don't want stored in iCloud. You can save a lot of 
 space this way, with apps that either rely on other storage (like Dropbox) or 
 apps whose data you don't care about.
 On Jun 7, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi,
  
 Trying to do my first backup to iCloud. I still have the 5.0GB available. It 
 tells me I need an additional 8.5GB of storage.
  
 I don't want to back up documents and data at this point, just the basics.
  
 I did get a screen that said something like, after I unchecked Documents and 
 Data, that Any data not backed up to iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone. 
 I don't want anything deleted from my iPhone when I do a basic backup.
  
 Can someone please help me with this?
  
 Thanks in advance.
  
 Keith
  
  
 I get the message, This iPhone cannot be backed up because there is not 
 enough iCloud storage available.
  
  
  
  
  
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RE: iCloud backup question

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks. I wouldn't mind  backing up some documents and data if I could figure 
out a way to do it and stay under the 5GB limit.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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If you really don't want app data backed up, than go ahead and turn it off. 
That means that, were you to restore an iCloud backup, you wouldn't get any of 
your apps - books and files in Voice Dream, locally stored documents in a word 
processor, and so on. Some apps now store your information and sync via iCloud 
anyway, but any that don't will not be restored.

That said, it's odd that you only have a toggle. As I said, I have a button, 
which lets me select which apps I don't want backed up. Turning off the big 
ones, like Bard Mobile, saves a lot of space in my backup. Anyone else unable 
to customize this?
On Jun 8, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edumailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:


Yes, I'm on iOS 7, the latest version. I can't find what you're referring to. 
It still tells me I need an extra 8+ GB. I don't want to back up everything, 
just the basics like Calendar, Contacts, Reminders, etc.

Thanks for any help.

Keith



From: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 7:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud backup question

No, leave that on. It should be a button; double tapping it should open a 
screen where you can control exactly which apps get backed up, it should not be 
a toggle. Yes, there is a toggle inside the Documents and Data screen, but the 
button from the main iCloud settings screen should not be a toggle. Are you on 
iOS7?
On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edumailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:



Thanks.

I get to Documents and Data. I switch from On to Off, and it says, All 
Documents and Data stored in iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone.

I have nothing in iCloud yet. I'm guessing that I'm safe to keep Documents and 
Data switched off, since there's nothing there currently.

I guess I just need to double-check that nothing currently on my iPhone will be 
lost when this is checked.

Is that correct?

Thanks. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 6:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud backup question

You can just turn off certain apps. Go to your iCloud settings, then Storage 
and Backup, then Manage Backups. Double tap the name of the device to manage, 
and turn off any apps you don't want stored in iCloud. You can save a lot of 
space this way, with apps that either rely on other storage (like Dropbox) or 
apps whose data you don't care about.
On Jun 7, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edumailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:




Hi,

Trying to do my first backup to iCloud. I still have the 5.0GB available. It 
tells me I need an additional 8.5GB of storage.

I don't want to back up documents and data at this point, just the basics.

I did get a screen that said something like, after I unchecked Documents and 
Data, that Any data not backed up to iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone. I 
don't want anything deleted from my iPhone when I do a basic backup.

Can someone please help me with this?

Thanks in advance.

Keith


I get the message, This iPhone cannot be backed up because there is not enough 
iCloud storage available.





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[Alex Hall]

You can just turn off certain apps. Go to your iCloud settings, then Storage 
and Backup, then Manage Backups. Double tap the name of the device to manage, 
and turn off any apps you don't want stored in iCloud. You can save a lot of 
space this way, with apps that either rely on other storage (like Dropbox) or 
apps whose data you don't care about.
On Jun 7, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 Hi,
  
 Trying to do my first backup to iCloud. I still have the 5.0GB available. It 
 tells me I need an additional 8.5GB of storage.
  
 I don't want to back up documents and data at this point, just the basics.
  
 I did get a screen that said something like, after I unchecked Documents and 
 Data, that Any data not backed up to iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone. 
 I don't want anything deleted from my iPhone when I do a basic backup.
  
 Can someone please help me with this?
  
 Thanks in advance.
  
 Keith
  
  
 I get the message, This iPhone cannot be backed up because there is not 
 enough iCloud storage available.
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: iCloud backup question

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks.

I get to Documents and Data. I switch from On to Off, and it says, All 
Documents and Data stored in iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone.

I have nothing in iCloud yet. I'm guessing that I'm safe to keep Documents and 
Data switched off, since there's nothing there currently.

I guess I just need to double-check that nothing currently on my iPhone will be 
lost when this is checked.

Is that correct?

Thanks. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Hall
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 6:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iCloud backup question

You can just turn off certain apps. Go to your iCloud settings, then Storage 
and Backup, then Manage Backups. Double tap the name of the device to manage, 
and turn off any apps you don't want stored in iCloud. You can save a lot of 
space this way, with apps that either rely on other storage (like Dropbox) or 
apps whose data you don't care about.
On Jun 7, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edumailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:


Hi,

Trying to do my first backup to iCloud. I still have the 5.0GB available. It 
tells me I need an additional 8.5GB of storage.

I don't want to back up documents and data at this point, just the basics.

I did get a screen that said something like, after I unchecked Documents and 
Data, that Any data not backed up to iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone. I 
don't want anything deleted from my iPhone when I do a basic backup.

Can someone please help me with this?

Thanks in advance.

Keith


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iCloud storage available.





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Re: iCloud backup question

[Alex Hall]

No, leave that on. It should be a button; double tapping it should open a 
screen where you can control exactly which apps get backed up, it should not be 
a toggle. Yes, there is a toggle inside the Documents and Data screen, but the 
button from the main iCloud settings screen should not be a toggle. Are you on 
iOS7?
On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 Thanks.
  
 I get to Documents and Data. I switch from On to Off, and it says, All 
 Documents and Data stored in iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone.
  
 I have nothing in iCloud yet. I'm guessing that I'm safe to keep Documents 
 and Data switched off, since there's nothing there currently.
  
 I guess I just need to double-check that nothing currently on my iPhone will 
 be lost when this is checked.
  
 Is that correct?
  
 Thanks. Keith
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Alex Hall
 Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 6:06 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iCloud backup question
  
 You can just turn off certain apps. Go to your iCloud settings, then Storage 
 and Backup, then Manage Backups. Double tap the name of the device to manage, 
 and turn off any apps you don't want stored in iCloud. You can save a lot of 
 space this way, with apps that either rely on other storage (like Dropbox) or 
 apps whose data you don't care about.
 On Jun 7, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
  
 Trying to do my first backup to iCloud. I still have the 5.0GB available. It 
 tells me I need an additional 8.5GB of storage.
  
 I don't want to back up documents and data at this point, just the basics.
  
 I did get a screen that said something like, after I unchecked Documents and 
 Data, that Any data not backed up to iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone. 
 I don't want anything deleted from my iPhone when I do a basic backup.
  
 Can someone please help me with this?
  
 Thanks in advance.
  
 Keith
  
  
 I get the message, This iPhone cannot be backed up because there is not 
 enough iCloud storage available.
  
  
  
  
  
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