Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi Annie,

Someone has mentioned that they thought their Sonus being on, while the BV 
was trying to work, affected its navigation. So, if you do get one, and 
experience odd behaviour, it might be worth bearing this in mind. I am afraid, 
I do not understand enough about wifi to clarify the situation.

Here is something that I have discovered which is useful: I have mentioned 
that the only bit of the app, that i have noticed as not being accessible, is 
the battery status. Well, as a work around, I took a screenshot of the Neato 
app, which shows the battery status, but VO can't see it, and sent it off to 
FaceBook. Very quickly, I got responses telling me that the battery was fully 
charged. So, if nothing else, we can always do this. I do have hopes though, 
because, there is one button that VO always says "dimmed" and nothing else, 
which I think is the battery status icon, so, VO sees something, just can't 
interpret it yet.

Good luck to all!
Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 5 Jul 2016, at 18:36, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Annie,
> 
> You shouldn't have to worry about your router, it should connect to whatever 
> device and normally 2.4 Ghz is actually better with respect to signal 
> quality, only thing is that if there are lots of 2.4 Ghz devices there can 
> sometimes be interference.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 6:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Annie,
> I do know this for certain, but back will not work on the highest setting of 
> your router. now, whether they will change this in the future, or, how easy 
> it would be for you to change the setting yourself when needed, I don't know.
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 3 Jul 2016, at 13:40, Annie Skov Nielsen <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandra.
>> 
>> Yes I would love one of these vacuum cleaners, I need sighted assistance for 
>> vacuum cleaning, and if that could be saved sometimes, it could mean a 
>> little more freedom to me. My only problem now is if I would get in trouble 
>> with all my 5 ghz attached items. The 2.4 ghz is not working as good as the 
>> 5 ghz network. I have talked to my brother he thinks it ought to work, but 
>> he is also blind, but he knows a lot about routers, that is not something 
>> that I am an expert in.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>>> Den 3. jul. 2016 kl. 14.27 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com>:
>>> 
>>> Annie,
>>> If your router is set to the 2.4, you should be good to go! You could 
>>> always double check by going to neato robotics.calm and look on their 
>>> help/support pages.
>>> 
>>> does this mean you're thinking of going for it? Wi-Fi not with standing? my 
>>> partner, fully sighted, reckons he could talk a person through tapping In 
>>> the right places using face time. but I think the neato people would be 
>>> better! However, lettuce know if we can help.
>>> Good luck, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>>> On 3 Jul 2016, at 12:51, Annie Skov Nielsen <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Sandra.
>>>> 
>>>> I have cheked it, it uses the 2,4 ghz standard. I am a little in doubt if 
>>>> that can give me problems. My router supports both the 2,4 and 5 ghz, but 
>>>> I am in doubt if I will need to change network to the speciffic 2,4 when I 
>>>> need to use the vacuum cleaner? With sonos I can use my normal network, 
>>>> but will it be the same with the bootvac, I am not intirely sure?
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards Annie.
>>>>> Den 1. jul. 2016 kl. 12.49 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Annie,
>>>>> 
>>>>> As things stand, at the moment, we do need sighted assistance to set up 
>>>>> the wifi. The person doesn't need to be tech savvy, but the touch screen 
>>>>> is not at all accessible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would estimate, so long as your router is using the 250  and not the 
>>>>> 500 channel, (Annie, I probably have put that wrong and even the numbers 
>>>>> are only approximates, but, basically, routers run on two different 
>>&g

RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Annie,

You shouldn't have to worry about your router, it should connect to whatever 
device and normally 2.4 Ghz is actually better with respect to signal quality, 
only thing is that if there are lots of 2.4 Ghz devices there can sometimes be 
interference.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 6:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Annie,
I do know this for certain, but back will not work on the highest setting of 
your router. now, whether they will change this in the future, or, how easy it 
would be for you to change the setting yourself when needed, I don't know.

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 3 Jul 2016, at 13:40, Annie Skov Nielsen <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandra.
> 
> Yes I would love one of these vacuum cleaners, I need sighted assistance for 
> vacuum cleaning, and if that could be saved sometimes, it could mean a little 
> more freedom to me. My only problem now is if I would get in trouble with all 
> my 5 ghz attached items. The 2.4 ghz is not working as good as the 5 ghz 
> network. I have talked to my brother he thinks it ought to work, but he is 
> also blind, but he knows a lot about routers, that is not something that I am 
> an expert in.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
>> Den 3. jul. 2016 kl. 14.27 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com>:
>> 
>> Annie,
>> If your router is set to the 2.4, you should be good to go! You could always 
>> double check by going to neato robotics.calm and look on their help/support 
>> pages.
>> 
>> does this mean you're thinking of going for it? Wi-Fi not with standing? my 
>> partner, fully sighted, reckons he could talk a person through tapping In 
>> the right places using face time. but I think the neato people would be 
>> better! However, lettuce know if we can help.
>> Good luck, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 3 Jul 2016, at 12:51, Annie Skov Nielsen <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sandra.
>>> 
>>> I have cheked it, it uses the 2,4 ghz standard. I am a little in doubt if 
>>> that can give me problems. My router supports both the 2,4 and 5 ghz, but I 
>>> am in doubt if I will need to change network to the speciffic 2,4 when I 
>>> need to use the vacuum cleaner? With sonos I can use my normal network, but 
>>> will it be the same with the bootvac, I am not intirely sure?
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie.
>>>> Den 1. jul. 2016 kl. 12.49 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Annie,
>>>> 
>>>> As things stand, at the moment, we do need sighted assistance to set up 
>>>> the wifi. The person doesn't need to be tech savvy, but the touch screen 
>>>> is not at all accessible.
>>>> 
>>>> I would estimate, so long as your router is using the 250  and not the 500 
>>>> channel, (Annie, I probably have put that wrong and even the numbers are 
>>>> only approximates, but, basically, routers run on two different levels, 
>>>> most, however, seem to be using the right one for the Vacuum so, worth 
>>>> checking this out first?) going back to my original sentence, so long as 
>>>> your router is right, I estimate that you should only need this sighted 
>>>> assistance for about 10 minutes. It actually only takes about 1 minute, or 
>>>> less, to set up the wifi on the vac, but you then have to do some stuff on 
>>>> your phone. All this, we can do, no problem, but, if it goes wrong, as 
>>>> with me, first time (putting in the password to the wifi wrongly) or as it 
>>>> did with Marie, you might need to get the sighted assistant to set up the 
>>>> wifi again on the Bot.
>>>> 
>>>> What we need is someone who can see well enough and has patience enough 
>>>> (my partner only qualifies on one front, so he's no use to me for this!) 
>>>> because, I think that each screen of the touch screen is both simple and 
>>>> prefixed. I think we could make a sort of template with dots, rather like 
>>>> the speed-dots screen protectors, the might make it possible for someone 
>>>> with no sight to set up the wifi, but this is only an idea at the moment. 
>>>> 
>>>> Would it be at all possible for you to find someone for 10 minutes? Or, if 
>

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Annie,
I do know this for certain, but back will not work on the highest setting of 
your router. now, whether they will change this in the future, or, how easy it 
would be for you to change the setting yourself when needed, I don't know.

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 3 Jul 2016, at 13:40, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandra.
> 
> Yes I would love one of these vacuum cleaners, I need sighted assistance for 
> vacuum cleaning, and if that could be saved sometimes, it could mean a little 
> more freedom to me. My only problem now is if I would get in trouble with all 
> my 5 ghz attached items. The 2.4 ghz is not working as good as the 5 ghz 
> network. I have talked to my brother he thinks it ought to work, but he is 
> also blind, but he knows a lot about routers, that is not something that I am 
> an expert in.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
>> Den 3. jul. 2016 kl. 14.27 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>> :
>> 
>> Annie,
>> If your router is set to the 2.4, you should be good to go! You could always 
>> double check by going to neato robotics.calm and look on their help/support 
>> pages.
>> 
>> does this mean you're thinking of going for it? Wi-Fi not with standing? my 
>> partner, fully sighted, reckons he could talk a person through tapping In 
>> the right places using face time. but I think the neato people would be 
>> better! However, lettuce know if we can help.
>> Good luck, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 3 Jul 2016, at 12:51, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sandra.
>>> 
>>> I have cheked it, it uses the 2,4 ghz standard. I am a little in doubt if 
>>> that can give me problems. My router supports both the 2,4 and 5 ghz, but I 
>>> am in doubt if I will need to change network to the speciffic 2,4 when I 
>>> need to use the vacuum cleaner? With sonos I can use my normal network, but 
>>> will it be the same with the bootvac, I am not intirely sure?
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie.
 Den 1. jul. 2016 kl. 12.49 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
 :
 
 Annie,
 
 As things stand, at the moment, we do need sighted assistance to set up 
 the wifi. The person doesn't need to be tech savvy, but the touch screen 
 is not at all accessible.
 
 I would estimate, so long as your router is using the 250  and not the 500 
 channel, (Annie, I probably have put that wrong and even the numbers are 
 only approximates, but, basically, routers run on two different levels, 
 most, however, seem to be using the right one for the Vacuum so, worth 
 checking this out first?) going back to my original sentence, so long as 
 your router is right, I estimate that you should only need this sighted 
 assistance for about 10 minutes. It actually only takes about 1 minute, or 
 less, to set up the wifi on the vac, but you then have to do some stuff on 
 your phone. All this, we can do, no problem, but, if it goes wrong, as 
 with me, first time (putting in the password to the wifi wrongly) or as it 
 did with Marie, you might need to get the sighted assistant to set up the 
 wifi again on the Bot.
 
 What we need is someone who can see well enough and has patience enough 
 (my partner only qualifies on one front, so he's no use to me for this!) 
 because, I think that each screen of the touch screen is both simple and 
 prefixed. I think we could make a sort of template with dots, rather like 
 the speed-dots screen protectors, the might make it possible for someone 
 with no sight to set up the wifi, but this is only an idea at the moment. 
 
 Would it be at all possible for you to find someone for 10 minutes? Or, if 
 you are fairly dexterous, using Be My Eyes, or, better still, with the 
 customer support on a facetime call, you might (but I haven't tried it, 
 will do so later) be able to have your finger directed to the right spot. 
 I think, all in all, it only takes about 3/4 spots to be touched, but you 
 cannot touch the screen, or you will mess it up, you must only touch the 
 exact places.
 
 Oh! What a long and unuseful response! In short, if you possibly can, get 
 some help, otherwise, you may well feel extremely disappointed and 
 frustrated.
 
 If someone else here, who has one of these lovely Bots, can chime in with 
 something more positive to say, I do hope they do. I will finish with this 
 though, once set up, the bot will hold that setting unless someone changes 
 it. For this reason, I try not to touch the touch screen.
 
 HTH, Sandy.  
 
 sent from the dark side of the moon
 
> On 1 Jul 2016, at 10:29, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandra and all.
> 
> I am concidering buying one of 

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Sandra.

Yes I would love one of these vacuum cleaners, I need sighted assistance for 
vacuum cleaning, and if that could be saved sometimes, it could mean a little 
more freedom to me. My only problem now is if I would get in trouble with all 
my 5 ghz attached items. The 2.4 ghz is not working as good as the 5 ghz 
network. I have talked to my brother he thinks it ought to work, but he is also 
blind, but he knows a lot about routers, that is not something that I am an 
expert in.

Best regards Annie.
> Den 3. jul. 2016 kl. 14.27 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> :
> 
> Annie,
> If your router is set to the 2.4, you should be good to go! You could always 
> double check by going to neato robotics.calm and look on their help/support 
> pages.
> 
> does this mean you're thinking of going for it? Wi-Fi not with standing? my 
> partner, fully sighted, reckons he could talk a person through tapping In the 
> right places using face time. but I think the neato people would be better! 
> However, lettuce know if we can help.
> Good luck, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 3 Jul 2016, at 12:51, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandra.
>> 
>> I have cheked it, it uses the 2,4 ghz standard. I am a little in doubt if 
>> that can give me problems. My router supports both the 2,4 and 5 ghz, but I 
>> am in doubt if I will need to change network to the speciffic 2,4 when I 
>> need to use the vacuum cleaner? With sonos I can use my normal network, but 
>> will it be the same with the bootvac, I am not intirely sure?
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>>> Den 1. jul. 2016 kl. 12.49 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Annie,
>>> 
>>>  As things stand, at the moment, we do need sighted assistance to set up 
>>> the wifi. The person doesn't need to be tech savvy, but the touch screen is 
>>> not at all accessible.
>>> 
>>>  I would estimate, so long as your router is using the 250  and not the 500 
>>> channel, (Annie, I probably have put that wrong and even the numbers are 
>>> only approximates, but, basically, routers run on two different levels, 
>>> most, however, seem to be using the right one for the Vacuum so, worth 
>>> checking this out first?) going back to my original sentence, so long as 
>>> your router is right, I estimate that you should only need this sighted 
>>> assistance for about 10 minutes. It actually only takes about 1 minute, or 
>>> less, to set up the wifi on the vac, but you then have to do some stuff on 
>>> your phone. All this, we can do, no problem, but, if it goes wrong, as with 
>>> me, first time (putting in the password to the wifi wrongly) or as it did 
>>> with Marie, you might need to get the sighted assistant to set up the wifi 
>>> again on the Bot.
>>> 
>>>  What we need is someone who can see well enough and has patience enough 
>>> (my partner only qualifies on one front, so he's no use to me for this!) 
>>> because, I think that each screen of the touch screen is both simple and 
>>> prefixed. I think we could make a sort of template with dots, rather like 
>>> the speed-dots screen protectors, the might make it possible for someone 
>>> with no sight to set up the wifi, but this is only an idea at the moment. 
>>> 
>>>  Would it be at all possible for you to find someone for 10 minutes? Or, if 
>>> you are fairly dexterous, using Be My Eyes, or, better still, with the 
>>> customer support on a facetime call, you might (but I haven't tried it, 
>>> will do so later) be able to have your finger directed to the right spot. I 
>>> think, all in all, it only takes about 3/4 spots to be touched, but you 
>>> cannot touch the screen, or you will mess it up, you must only touch the 
>>> exact places.
>>> 
>>>  Oh! What a long and unuseful response! In short, if you possibly can, get 
>>> some help, otherwise, you may well feel extremely disappointed and 
>>> frustrated.
>>> 
>>>  If someone else here, who has one of these lovely Bots, can chime in with 
>>> something more positive to say, I do hope they do. I will finish with this 
>>> though, once set up, the bot will hold that setting unless someone changes 
>>> it. For this reason, I try not to touch the touch screen.
>>> 
>>> HTH, Sandy.  
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
 On 1 Jul 2016, at 10:29, Annie Skov Nielsen  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Sandra and all.
 
 I am concidering buying one of these vacuum cleaners, but can we connect 
 it to the wifi the first time or do that require sighted assistance? I do 
 not have any sighted assistance, so it would be important for me that I 
 can connect it myself.
 
 Best regards Annie.
> Den 14. jun. 2016 kl. 15.14 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Annie,
If your router is set to the 2.4, you should be good to go! You could always 
double check by going to neato robotics.calm and look on their help/support 
pages.

does this mean you're thinking of going for it? Wi-Fi not with standing? my 
partner, fully sighted, reckons he could talk a person through tapping In the 
right places using face time. but I think the neato people would be better! 
However, lettuce know if we can help.
Good luck, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 3 Jul 2016, at 12:51, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandra.
> 
> I have cheked it, it uses the 2,4 ghz standard. I am a little in doubt if 
> that can give me problems. My router supports both the 2,4 and 5 ghz, but I 
> am in doubt if I will need to change network to the speciffic 2,4 when I need 
> to use the vacuum cleaner? With sonos I can use my normal network, but will 
> it be the same with the bootvac, I am not intirely sure?
> 
> Best regards Annie.
>> Den 1. jul. 2016 kl. 12.49 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>> :
>> 
>> Annie,
>> 
>>   As things stand, at the moment, we do need sighted assistance to set up 
>> the wifi. The person doesn't need to be tech savvy, but the touch screen is 
>> not at all accessible.
>> 
>>   I would estimate, so long as your router is using the 250  and not the 500 
>> channel, (Annie, I probably have put that wrong and even the numbers are 
>> only approximates, but, basically, routers run on two different levels, 
>> most, however, seem to be using the right one for the Vacuum so, worth 
>> checking this out first?) going back to my original sentence, so long as 
>> your router is right, I estimate that you should only need this sighted 
>> assistance for about 10 minutes. It actually only takes about 1 minute, or 
>> less, to set up the wifi on the vac, but you then have to do some stuff on 
>> your phone. All this, we can do, no problem, but, if it goes wrong, as with 
>> me, first time (putting in the password to the wifi wrongly) or as it did 
>> with Marie, you might need to get the sighted assistant to set up the wifi 
>> again on the Bot.
>> 
>>   What we need is someone who can see well enough and has patience enough 
>> (my partner only qualifies on one front, so he's no use to me for this!) 
>> because, I think that each screen of the touch screen is both simple and 
>> prefixed. I think we could make a sort of template with dots, rather like 
>> the speed-dots screen protectors, the might make it possible for someone 
>> with no sight to set up the wifi, but this is only an idea at the moment. 
>> 
>>   Would it be at all possible for you to find someone for 10 minutes? Or, if 
>> you are fairly dexterous, using Be My Eyes, or, better still, with the 
>> customer support on a facetime call, you might (but I haven't tried it, will 
>> do so later) be able to have your finger directed to the right spot. I 
>> think, all in all, it only takes about 3/4 spots to be touched, but you 
>> cannot touch the screen, or you will mess it up, you must only touch the 
>> exact places.
>> 
>>   Oh! What a long and unuseful response! In short, if you possibly can, get 
>> some help, otherwise, you may well feel extremely disappointed and 
>> frustrated.
>> 
>>   If someone else here, who has one of these lovely Bots, can chime in with 
>> something more positive to say, I do hope they do. I will finish with this 
>> though, once set up, the bot will hold that setting unless someone changes 
>> it. For this reason, I try not to touch the touch screen.
>> 
>> HTH, Sandy.  
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 1 Jul 2016, at 10:29, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sandra and all.
>>> 
>>> I am concidering buying one of these vacuum cleaners, but can we connect it 
>>> to the wifi the first time or do that require sighted assistance? I do not 
>>> have any sighted assistance, so it would be important for me that I can 
>>> connect it myself.
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie.
 Den 14. jun. 2016 kl. 15.14 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
 :
 
 Hi all,
 
 After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
 better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, 
 when it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. 
 Then it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very 
 easy. Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network 
 wifi settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the 
 best way to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean 
 house" either with the app or just press a button, there are only two 
 buttons, and then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for 
 all users, but especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the 

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Sandra.

I have cheked it, it uses the 2,4 ghz standard. I am a little in doubt if that 
can give me problems. My router supports both the 2,4 and 5 ghz, but I am in 
doubt if I will need to change network to the speciffic 2,4 when I need to use 
the vacuum cleaner? With sonos I can use my normal network, but will it be the 
same with the bootvac, I am not intirely sure?

Best regards Annie.
> Den 1. jul. 2016 kl. 12.49 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> :
> 
> Annie,
> 
>As things stand, at the moment, we do need sighted assistance to set up 
> the wifi. The person doesn't need to be tech savvy, but the touch screen is 
> not at all accessible.
> 
>I would estimate, so long as your router is using the 250  and not the 500 
> channel, (Annie, I probably have put that wrong and even the numbers are only 
> approximates, but, basically, routers run on two different levels, most, 
> however, seem to be using the right one for the Vacuum so, worth checking 
> this out first?) going back to my original sentence, so long as your router 
> is right, I estimate that you should only need this sighted assistance for 
> about 10 minutes. It actually only takes about 1 minute, or less, to set up 
> the wifi on the vac, but you then have to do some stuff on your phone. All 
> this, we can do, no problem, but, if it goes wrong, as with me, first time 
> (putting in the password to the wifi wrongly) or as it did with Marie, you 
> might need to get the sighted assistant to set up the wifi again on the Bot.
> 
>What we need is someone who can see well enough and has patience enough 
> (my partner only qualifies on one front, so he's no use to me for this!) 
> because, I think that each screen of the touch screen is both simple and 
> prefixed. I think we could make a sort of template with dots, rather like the 
> speed-dots screen protectors, the might make it possible for someone with no 
> sight to set up the wifi, but this is only an idea at the moment. 
> 
>Would it be at all possible for you to find someone for 10 minutes? Or, if 
> you are fairly dexterous, using Be My Eyes, or, better still, with the 
> customer support on a facetime call, you might (but I haven't tried it, will 
> do so later) be able to have your finger directed to the right spot. I think, 
> all in all, it only takes about 3/4 spots to be touched, but you cannot touch 
> the screen, or you will mess it up, you must only touch the exact places.
> 
>Oh! What a long and unuseful response! In short, if you possibly can, get 
> some help, otherwise, you may well feel extremely disappointed and frustrated.
> 
>If someone else here, who has one of these lovely Bots, can chime in with 
> something more positive to say, I do hope they do. I will finish with this 
> though, once set up, the bot will hold that setting unless someone changes 
> it. For this reason, I try not to touch the touch screen.
> 
> HTH, Sandy.  
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 1 Jul 2016, at 10:29, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandra and all.
>> 
>> I am concidering buying one of these vacuum cleaners, but can we connect it 
>> to the wifi the first time or do that require sighted assistance? I do not 
>> have any sighted assistance, so it would be important for me that I can 
>> connect it myself.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>>> Den 14. jun. 2016 kl. 15.14 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>>  After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
>>> better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, 
>>> when it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. 
>>> Then it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very 
>>> easy. Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi 
>>> settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best 
>>> way to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house" 
>>> either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and 
>>> then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but 
>>> especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show 
>>> up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning 
>>> replacing the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it 
>>> is in the right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick 
>>> way to be sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when 
>>> it has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message. 
>>> 
>>> Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years! 
>>> Smug, Sandy.   
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>> -- 
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Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Sandra.

Ok thank you. Ok it is as it is. I am happy that I did not just buy it and 
afterwards could not get it set up. Maybe the brand new talking goggles can be 
of some help.

Cheers Annie.
> Den 1. jul. 2016 kl. 14.50 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> :
> 
> Annie,
> 
>OK! I have just taken a much closer look at the touch screen on the BotVac 
> Connected. I had my, very impatient, partner look over my shoulder. Firstly, 
> I discovered that it isn't a touch screen at all! The screen, whichis about 3 
> inches/8 cm would that be? square, is only a display.  Immediately to the 
> right and near to the top of the screen, there is an  up-arrow, this is 
> touch/pressure sensitive.
> Also, to the right, but lower down, is  a down-arrow, also touch sensitive. A 
> little lower down, still to the right of the screen, is a left pointing arrow.
> Finally, there is a sort of "bar" marked, directly beneath the screen, in the 
> centre.
> 
> So, the Bot is menu driven. You either go up or down the lists with the 
> arrows and select the one you want with the "bar" beneath the screen. The 
> left arrow takes you back through the screen pages until you reach home. You 
> can press this left/home arrow as many times as you like, because it will 
> stop changing the page, once you have reached home. Unfortunately, in all the 
> other lists, such as 'settings" these are circular, so, once you reach the 
> last in the list it starts again with the first option, possible to get lost 
> in these!! 
> 
>I got my, ex-partner, to put some bits of "bling" (you know the plastic 
> glittery stuff that kids use to customise their phones/faces etc? He stuck 
> them directly on the arrows and the bar. However, even with the plastic bling 
> (mine are like little pearls) as soon as I touch them, it triggers off the 
> touch/pressure sensitive arrow. Even if I am extra careful, I find it very 
> tricky to control and not set off, by accident these arrows. They do make a 
> sound though, so you do know when you have activated one. The good news is: 
> you have to press that bar before anything is activated or set.
> 
>Where am i going with all this, too much information? I see that we have 
> just 4 buttons (for want of a better description). If these buttons/arrows 
> were tactile, at a pinch, we could set the wifi up without sighted help. In 
> order to put the tactile markers on, we need sighted help, as the arrows are 
> not feelable. What I am thinking, for you is this: if I can think of a 
> solution, using cardboard, with cut-outs, which could be placed on top of the 
> Bot, just for the set-up of the wifi, could you do it? I think, YES!
> 
>From the home screen, which is where you should be upon start-up, I think, 
> you would use the down arrow 3 times to get to the third option which is 
> "settings". Then use the Bar to go into it. then use the down arrow again 
> till you hit wifi, but can't remember how many times, just musing here at the 
> moment Once over wifi, hit the bar again and finish withthe left arrow 
> twice to take you home and you are done!!!
> 
>You see, it is not difficult, the only trick is not setting off  arrow 
> movement and losing your place in the list. I think, if you were very 
> dexterous, it would be possible to do this with sighted help  through  Be My 
> Eyes, but better with the help from Neato support as they could direct you in 
> the right direction in case of an accidental triggering, which, I have to 
> say, is almost unavoidable!!
> 
> I am not going to ask if this helps, I know it hasn't, really I am just 
> musing. It is, for example, useful to understand that the screen itself is 
> not touch sensitive. These are, if you like, hardware buttons, and so, should 
> be accessible via the app, but that still wouldn't help, as you need the wifi 
> in order to use the app.
> 
> Argh!
> 
> Let me think some more
> 
> Sandy (very challenged!)  
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 1 Jul 2016, at 10:29, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandra and all.
>> 
>> I am concidering buying one of these vacuum cleaners, but can we connect it 
>> to the wifi the first time or do that require sighted assistance? I do not 
>> have any sighted assistance, so it would be important for me that I can 
>> connect it myself.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>>> Den 14. jun. 2016 kl. 15.14 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>>  After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
>>> better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, 
>>> when it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. 
>>> Then it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very 
>>> easy. Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi 
>>> settings are almost resolved, touch 

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Annie,

OK! I have just taken a much closer look at the touch screen on the BotVac 
Connected. I had my, very impatient, partner look over my shoulder. Firstly, I 
discovered that it isn't a touch screen at all! The screen, whichis about 3 
inches/8 cm would that be? square, is only a display.  Immediately to the right 
and near to the top of the screen, there is an  up-arrow, this is 
touch/pressure sensitive.
Also, to the right, but lower down, is  a down-arrow, also touch sensitive. A 
little lower down, still to the right of the screen, is a left pointing arrow.
Finally, there is a sort of "bar" marked, directly beneath the screen, in the 
centre.

So, the Bot is menu driven. You either go up or down the lists with the arrows 
and select the one you want with the "bar" beneath the screen. The left arrow 
takes you back through the screen pages until you reach home. You can press 
this left/home arrow as many times as you like, because it will stop changing 
the page, once you have reached home. Unfortunately, in all the other lists, 
such as 'settings" these are circular, so, once you reach the last in the list 
it starts again with the first option, possible to get lost in these!! 

I got my, ex-partner, to put some bits of "bling" (you know the plastic 
glittery stuff that kids use to customise their phones/faces etc? He stuck them 
directly on the arrows and the bar. However, even with the plastic bling (mine 
are like little pearls) as soon as I touch them, it triggers off the 
touch/pressure sensitive arrow. Even if I am extra careful, I find it very 
tricky to control and not set off, by accident these arrows. They do make a 
sound though, so you do know when you have activated one. The good news is: you 
have to press that bar before anything is activated or set.

Where am i going with all this, too much information? I see that we have 
just 4 buttons (for want of a better description). If these buttons/arrows were 
tactile, at a pinch, we could set the wifi up without sighted help. In order to 
put the tactile markers on, we need sighted help, as the arrows are not 
feelable. What I am thinking, for you is this: if I can think of a solution, 
using cardboard, with cut-outs, which could be placed on top of the Bot, just 
for the set-up of the wifi, could you do it? I think, YES!

From the home screen, which is where you should be upon start-up, I think, 
you would use the down arrow 3 times to get to the third option which is 
"settings". Then use the Bar to go into it. then use the down arrow again till 
you hit wifi, but can't remember how many times, just musing here at the 
moment Once over wifi, hit the bar again and finish withthe left arrow 
twice to take you home and you are done!!!

You see, it is not difficult, the only trick is not setting off  arrow 
movement and losing your place in the list. I think, if you were very 
dexterous, it would be possible to do this with sighted help  through  Be My 
Eyes, but better with the help from Neato support as they could direct you in 
the right direction in case of an accidental triggering, which, I have to say, 
is almost unavoidable!!

I am not going to ask if this helps, I know it hasn't, really I am just musing. 
It is, for example, useful to understand that the screen itself is not touch 
sensitive. These are, if you like, hardware buttons, and so, should be 
accessible via the app, but that still wouldn't help, as you need the wifi in 
order to use the app.

Argh!

Let me think some more

Sandy (very challenged!)  

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 1 Jul 2016, at 10:29, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandra and all.
> 
> I am concidering buying one of these vacuum cleaners, but can we connect it 
> to the wifi the first time or do that require sighted assistance? I do not 
> have any sighted assistance, so it would be important for me that I can 
> connect it myself.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
>> Den 14. jun. 2016 kl. 15.14 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>   After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
>> better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when 
>> it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then 
>> it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy. 
>> Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi 
>> settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way 
>> to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house" 
>> either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and 
>> then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but 
>> especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show 
>> up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning 
>> replacing 

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Annie,

As things stand, at the moment, we do need sighted assistance to set up the 
wifi. The person doesn't need to be tech savvy, but the touch screen is not at 
all accessible.

I would estimate, so long as your router is using the 250  and not the 500 
channel, (Annie, I probably have put that wrong and even the numbers are only 
approximates, but, basically, routers run on two different levels, most, 
however, seem to be using the right one for the Vacuum so, worth checking this 
out first?) going back to my original sentence, so long as your router is 
right, I estimate that you should only need this sighted assistance for about 
10 minutes. It actually only takes about 1 minute, or less, to set up the wifi 
on the vac, but you then have to do some stuff on your phone. All this, we can 
do, no problem, but, if it goes wrong, as with me, first time (putting in the 
password to the wifi wrongly) or as it did with Marie, you might need to get 
the sighted assistant to set up the wifi again on the Bot.

What we need is someone who can see well enough and has patience enough (my 
partner only qualifies on one front, so he's no use to me for this!) because, I 
think that each screen of the touch screen is both simple and prefixed. I think 
we could make a sort of template with dots, rather like the speed-dots screen 
protectors, the might make it possible for someone with no sight to set up the 
wifi, but this is only an idea at the moment. 

Would it be at all possible for you to find someone for 10 minutes? Or, if 
you are fairly dexterous, using Be My Eyes, or, better still, with the customer 
support on a facetime call, you might (but I haven't tried it, will do so 
later) be able to have your finger directed to the right spot. I think, all in 
all, it only takes about 3/4 spots to be touched, but you cannot touch the 
screen, or you will mess it up, you must only touch the exact places.

Oh! What a long and unuseful response! In short, if you possibly can, get 
some help, otherwise, you may well feel extremely disappointed and frustrated.

If someone else here, who has one of these lovely Bots, can chime in with 
something more positive to say, I do hope they do. I will finish with this 
though, once set up, the bot will hold that setting unless someone changes it. 
For this reason, I try not to touch the touch screen.

HTH, Sandy.  

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 1 Jul 2016, at 10:29, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandra and all.
> 
> I am concidering buying one of these vacuum cleaners, but can we connect it 
> to the wifi the first time or do that require sighted assistance? I do not 
> have any sighted assistance, so it would be important for me that I can 
> connect it myself.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
>> Den 14. jun. 2016 kl. 15.14 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>   After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
>> better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when 
>> it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then 
>> it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy. 
>> Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi 
>> settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way 
>> to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house" 
>> either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and 
>> then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but 
>> especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show 
>> up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning 
>> replacing the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it 
>> is in the right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick 
>> way to be sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when it 
>> has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message. 
>> 
>> Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years! 
>> Smug, Sandy.   
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Sandra and all.

I am concidering buying one of these vacuum cleaners, but can we connect it to 
the wifi the first time or do that require sighted assistance? I do not have 
any sighted assistance, so it would be important for me that I can connect it 
myself.

Best regards Annie.
> Den 14. jun. 2016 kl. 15.14 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
> better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when 
> it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then it 
> returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy. Useful 
> for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi settings are 
> almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way to deal with 
> the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house" either with the 
> app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and then leaving it 
> to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but especially for 
> us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show up on the onboard 
> screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning replacing the Bot on 
> its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it is in the right 
> position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick way to be sure 
> would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when it has finished, 
> it will go home and play a tune and send a message. 
> 
> Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years! 
> Smug, Sandy.   
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
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RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Jeremy Gilley]

My bot vac runs under my desk.
I have wires running aginst the wall, multiple wires actually. It has not
sucked them up or unplugged them at all.
Some thick, some thin from speaker wires.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jim Ruby
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

I wonder how it will do under the computer desks or tables where they may be
cords? Will it suck up the cords, I would not want it to damage the cords.
What about going around say socks left on the floor in the bedroom?

Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi Zoe,

Glad you like the sound of the BotVac, I certainly still like mine! I
shall have a shot at answering your questions.

Different types of flooring: I have wood, tile, Laminate and carpeting. I
can't say that the Bot performs differently from floor to floor, but it just
works! There are 2 types of brushes, which are very easy to change, One is
like a squeegee, called the spiral blade brush, which, I find, is especially
good for hard floors, but does a good job on carpets too! However, the other
brush, the one which comes installed, is a mixture of squeegee blade and
bristles. I think that this latter brush might be best for a deeper carpet
brushing. I plan to use that one, say, once a week and see how that does.

You were wondering about thresholds, I have various types of these, some
are just a small step of about half an inch, while others are real
thresholds, I.E., a sort of wooden strip, 5 inches across, which has a small
up-step of a quarter of an inch, then a slope up and then down and a little
fall-off, the Vac seems to take a run at it and clambers over!! I was
standing very still, and the Bot climbed onto my foot, and then up my ankle!
I'd say he got to about a 45 degree tip before I lost my nerve and ran off!
It is like being harrassed by a big beetle! Getting onto rugs etc is no
problem at all! One of the few times I got a message saying he was stuck, I
found him rocking on top of the dog's rubber bone! So, I don't see a problem
with your doorways. Mind you, When you get your Bot, you should have a
little time to play with him and decide if it will work for you. 

Falling down stairs? This morning, I did my upstairs. When I did it
first time, I was concerned lest he fall down. I already knew he had "cliff
detection" (which I wish I had!!) but I wanted to be sure. This time I was
busy elsewhere, so left him to it, with no problems. The really cool thing,
I find, is that if you put him, say, upstairs, where there is no dock to go
home to, he will go back, to the exact spot where you started him off. This
means, you don't have to worry about finding him again! If you get into a
habit of placing him in the same spot, you will always know where he is when
he is quiet and finished. 

As far as accessibility goes, the app is well done and totally
accessible, apart from the battery status, which VO can't recognise for some
reason. Neither can the KNFB Reader app, as it is just a icon whith some
indicator bars. I am still working on a work around for this!! You do get a
few of the error messages, but not all. However, as Jeramy discovered, there
is a work around for this which, in my opinion, is acceptable. Today, my
internet went off and will probably, stay off until my partner gets back,
so, firstly, I found the app could not find the Bot. So, I just used the
Home button and it did its job for me. At one point, it stopped and "bling
blonged" at me. I couldn't guess what was wrong! I felt sure I had emptied
the bin, the brushes felt OK and the battery should have been fine. So, with
no app and no internet, I had to get the KNFB Reader up (thank goodness it
doesn't need the net to work!) took a shot of the screen on the Vac and
managed to read, not perfectly, but well enough, that the bin needed
emptying. I did this, though there wasn't anything in it! Maybe the act of
carrying it upstairs sprinkled some loose dust on its sensors or something,
but it then worked perfectly. So, if push comes to shove, An OCR app may do.
I couldn't use BE My Eyes, because of the no net situation.

Sorry for such a long reply, please ask anything you like about this, my
new Pal!

Sandy. 
PS If anyone, with no sight at all and one of these Vacs can tell me how
they manage to dock it, manually, and be sure it is in the correct position,
I would love to know how you do it! 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 27 Jun 2016, at 15:54, zoe fiogkos <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys, I have been following this thread religiously because this gaget
sounds fantastic and for the most part

RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Jim Ruby]

I wonder how it will do under the computer desks or tables where they may be 
cords? Will it suck up the cords, I would not want it to damage the cords. What 
about going around say socks left on the floor in the bedroom?

Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi Zoe,

Glad you like the sound of the BotVac, I certainly still like mine! I shall 
have a shot at answering your questions.

Different types of flooring: I have wood, tile, Laminate and carpeting. I can't 
say that the Bot performs differently from floor to floor, but it just works! 
There are 2 types of brushes, which are very easy to change, One is like a 
squeegee, called the spiral blade brush, which, I find, is especially good for 
hard floors, but does a good job on carpets too! However, the other brush, the 
one which comes installed, is a mixture of squeegee blade and bristles. I think 
that this latter brush might be best for a deeper carpet  brushing. I plan to 
use that one, say, once a week and see how that does.

You were wondering about thresholds, I have various types of these, some 
are just a small step of about half an inch, while others are real thresholds, 
I.E., a sort of wooden strip, 5 inches across, which has a small up-step of a 
quarter of an inch, then a slope up and then down and a little fall-off, the 
Vac seems to take a run at it and clambers over!! I was standing very still, 
and the Bot climbed onto my foot, and then up my ankle! I'd say he got to about 
a 45 degree tip before I lost my nerve and ran off! It is like being harrassed 
by a big beetle! Getting onto rugs etc is no problem at all! One of the few 
times I got a message saying he was stuck, I found him rocking on top of the 
dog's rubber bone! So, I don't see a problem with your doorways. Mind you, When 
you get your Bot, you should have a little time to play with him and decide if 
it will work for you. 

Falling down stairs? This morning, I did my upstairs. When I did it first 
time, I was concerned lest he fall down. I already knew he had "cliff 
detection" (which I wish I had!!) but I wanted to be sure. This time I was busy 
elsewhere, so left him to it, with no problems. The really cool thing, I find, 
is that if you put him, say, upstairs, where there is no dock to go home to, he 
will go back, to the exact spot where you started him off. This means, you 
don't have to worry about finding him again! If you get into a habit of placing 
him in the same spot, you will always know where he is when he is quiet and 
finished. 

As far as accessibility goes, the app is well done and totally accessible, 
apart from the battery status, which VO can't recognise for some reason. 
Neither can the KNFB Reader app, as it is just a icon whith some indicator 
bars. I am still working on a work around for this!! You do get a few of the 
error messages, but not all. However, as Jeramy discovered, there is a work 
around for this which, in my opinion, is acceptable. Today, my internet went 
off and will probably, stay off until my partner gets back, so, firstly, I 
found the app could not find the Bot. So, I just used the Home button and it 
did its job for me. At one point, it stopped and "bling blonged" at me. I 
couldn't guess what was wrong! I felt sure I had emptied the bin, the brushes 
felt OK and the battery should have been fine. So, with no app and no internet, 
I had to get the KNFB Reader up (thank goodness it doesn't need the net to 
work!) took a shot of the screen on the Vac and managed to read, not perfectly, 
but well enough, that the bin needed emptying. I did this, though there wasn't 
anything in it! Maybe the act of carrying it upstairs sprinkled some loose dust 
on its sensors or something, but it then worked perfectly. So, if push comes to 
shove, An OCR app may do. I couldn't use BE My Eyes, because of the no net 
situation.

Sorry for such a long reply, please ask anything you like about this, my 
new Pal!

Sandy. 
PS If anyone, with no sight at all and one of these Vacs can tell me how they 
manage to dock it, manually, and be sure it is in the correct position, I would 
love to know how you do it! 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 27 Jun 2016, at 15:54, zoe fiogkos <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys, I have been following this thread religiously because this gaget 
> sounds fantastic and for the most part accessible. However I can't afford 
> this right now but I'm hoping this will change sometime in the future, so I 
> have some questions.
> My house is laminate flooring, tiles in the bathroom, carpet in the bedroom, 
> and plastic vinil in the kitchen. Does this vacume distinguish between the 
> different types of serfaces and vacume accordingly? Also the b

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Marie]

Just thought I would give a little update on my first day with the Bot vac. 
There were a few hiccups along the way but we got it done. I still have 
trouble getting it to resume on it's own after getting stuck but from what 
you said, I may be moving it too much. But even though it took some time to 
finish, I am very pleased with the results. As far as I can tell, it did a 
great job of cleaning. I am sure the kinks will get smoothed out with using 
the app. I was not able to follow your directions to change from turbo to 
eco however. When I tap on the Ready to clean, nothing happens? I will play 
with it more until I get the hang of it hopefully. If not I will get help 
setting up the schedule and let it go on it's merry way.
One more thing I want to add is that it was on sale at Best Buy for $629 
instead of the usual $699, so I was happy with that.

Marie

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RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[zoe fiogkos]

Sandy you answered all my questions to the fullest now it makes me want it even 
more, heres hoping to some financial prosperity in  the future for purchase.  
If I ever aquire this fantastic thing I will let you all know.  Again thanks so 
much, you have been a great help. Sincerely Zoe

-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: June 27, 2016 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi Zoe,

Glad you like the sound of the BotVac, I certainly still like mine! I shall 
have a shot at answering your questions.

Different types of flooring: I have wood, tile, Laminate and carpeting. I can't 
say that the Bot performs differently from floor to floor, but it just works! 
There are 2 types of brushes, which are very easy to change, One is like a 
squeegee, called the spiral blade brush, which, I find, is especially good for 
hard floors, but does a good job on carpets too! However, the other brush, the 
one which comes installed, is a mixture of squeegee blade and bristles. I think 
that this latter brush might be best for a deeper carpet  brushing. I plan to 
use that one, say, once a week and see how that does.

You were wondering about thresholds, I have various types of these, some 
are just a small step of about half an inch, while others are real thresholds, 
I.E., a sort of wooden strip, 5 inches across, which has a small up-step of a 
quarter of an inch, then a slope up and then down and a little fall-off, the 
Vac seems to take a run at it and clambers over!! I was standing very still, 
and the Bot climbed onto my foot, and then up my ankle! I'd say he got to about 
a 45 degree tip before I lost my nerve and ran off! It is like being harrassed 
by a big beetle! Getting onto rugs etc is no problem at all! One of the few 
times I got a message saying he was stuck, I found him rocking on top of the 
dog's rubber bone! So, I don't see a problem with your doorways. Mind you, When 
you get your Bot, you should have a little time to play with him and decide if 
it will work for you. 

Falling down stairs? This morning, I did my upstairs. When I did it first 
time, I was concerned lest he fall down. I already knew he had "cliff 
detection" (which I wish I had!!) but I wanted to be sure. This time I was busy 
elsewhere, so left him to it, with no problems. The really cool thing, I find, 
is that if you put him, say, upstairs, where there is no dock to go home to, he 
will go back, to the exact spot where you started him off. This means, you 
don't have to worry about finding him again! If you get into a habit of placing 
him in the same spot, you will always know where he is when he is quiet and 
finished. 

As far as accessibility goes, the app is well done and totally accessible, 
apart from the battery status, which VO can't recognise for some reason. 
Neither can the KNFB Reader app, as it is just a icon whith some indicator 
bars. I am still working on a work around for this!! You do get a few of the 
error messages, but not all. However, as Jeramy discovered, there is a work 
around for this which, in my opinion, is acceptable. Today, my internet went 
off and will probably, stay off until my partner gets back, so, firstly, I 
found the app could not find the Bot. So, I just used the Home button and it 
did its job for me. At one point, it stopped and "bling blonged" at me. I 
couldn't guess what was wrong! I felt sure I had emptied the bin, the brushes 
felt OK and the battery should have been fine. So, with no app and no internet, 
I had to get the KNFB Reader up (thank goodness it doesn't need the net to 
work!) took a shot of the screen on the Vac and managed to read, not perfectly, 
but well enough, that the bin needed emptying. I did this, though there wasn't 
anything in it! Maybe the act of carrying it upstairs sprinkled some loose dust 
on its sensors or something, but it then worked perfectly. So, if push comes to 
shove, An OCR app may do. I couldn't use BE My Eyes, because of the no net 
situation.

Sorry for such a long reply, please ask anything you like about this, my 
new Pal!

Sandy. 
PS If anyone, with no sight at all and one of these Vacs can tell me how they 
manage to dock it, manually, and be sure it is in the correct position, I would 
love to know how you do it! 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 27 Jun 2016, at 15:54, zoe fiogkos <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys, I have been following this thread religiously because this gaget 
> sounds fantastic and for the most part accessible. However I can't afford 
> this right now but I'm hoping this will change sometime in the future, so I 
> have some questions.
> My house is laminate flooring, tiles in the bathroom, carpet in the bedroom, 
> and plastic vinil in the kitchen. Does this vacume distinguish between the 
> different types 

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

own the stairs?
> Thanks for any help and feedback provided in advanced.
> Regards
> Zoe 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: June 26, 2016 9:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Hi Jeramy and all interested in the BotVac app accessibility!
> 
>My Bot just did the ground floor and returned itself to the dock. I heard 
> the tune and got the message "I am done cleaning", then, I heard, what I now 
> know to be an error sound, a sort of "bling blong" repeated a few times at a 
> minute's interval. I have had this before and when it occurs at the end of a 
> successful cycle of cleaning, I can be fairly sure it means the bin needs  
> emptying . But, this time, upon seeing the error showing up in the app, I 
> tapped on "more info" and, as Jeramy said, it took me straight to the 
> appropriate webpage and he error showed up, as I had expected, "bin full' or 
> some such. This is great! This little discovery has just extended 
> accessibility of the app/BotVac enormously!! Now, just the setting up of the 
> Wifi and the battery status and we are fully there!!
> 
> Sandy. 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:49, Jeremy Gilley <j_gil...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> So, I really didn't move the bot from the place it stopped.
>> I just cleaned the brushes from some dog hairs and resumed.
>> As for the error page, yes, it takes you directly to the right error page on
>> the bot site.
>> You can either flick right, or use the 2 finger gesture and swipe down and
>> have it read the hole screen to you.
>> But really, the first line of the error says it all.
>> My brushes need cleaning. So, I knew just to feel for the brushes and remove
>> what ever was clogging them.
>> In this case was some dog hairs.
>> My apartment is pretty bot ready too except one of the bathrooms. in one of
>> my bathrooms, the bot can go around the toilet on one side, but always gets
>> stuck on the other side and can't turn around lol.
>> So, I just make sure either the door is closed, or I have something blocking
>> the one side so it can't get stuck.
>> Other then that, it just zooms all over the place.
>> I really love it and was well worth the money.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>> 
>> Good call Jeramy!
>> 
>>   So, as the error doesn't give a number, did the webpage that the "info"
>> button took you to, land on the correct error message? If you know what I am
>> trying to ask? Thus, not just a list of errors, but the specific one you
>> were encountering? If so, this is vastly useful! I shall try it as soon as
>> ever I get another error. Mind you, I am finding that, after the first
>> couple of times using the Bot, I get less and less issues, I think this is
>> due to the fact that my house is, now, Neato friendly.
>> 
>>   Once you had dealt with the brushes, did you put the Bot back in the
>> same place? I have read that this helps with the Bot knowing where it is. If
>> you interupt cleaning and place the Bot in another place, it can have
>> trouble finding the dock again.
>> 
>> Thanks for the tip,
>> 
>> Sandy. 
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:00, Jeremy Gilley <j_gil...@att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually,
>>> Yesterday I did get an error, and I was able to access it on my phone app.
>>> In the app, when the machine stopped running, in one of the settings, I
>>> forget where, it says "error".
>>> Next to it was a info button. I clicked on the info button.
>>> It then took me to the website for the bot, and I was able to flick right
>>> and read that the brushes needed to be cleaned.
>>> Once I did this, I then closed out of the internet, went back to the bot
>>> app, and found the play button and resumed cleaning.
>>> Might be a bit time consuming yeah, but it works.
>>> If you can't find the play button after fixing the error, one can just
>> press
>>> the home button on the machine to resume. I have done that too.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:vip

RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[zoe fiogkos]

Hi guys, I have been following this thread religiously because this gaget 
sounds fantastic and for the most part accessible. However I can't afford this 
right now but I'm hoping this will change sometime in the future, so I have 
some questions.
My house is laminate flooring, tiles in the bathroom, carpet in the bedroom, 
and plastic vinil in the kitchen. Does this vacume distinguish between the 
different types of serfaces and vacume accordingly? Also the bathroom, kitchen, 
and bedroom have a small barrier in the doorways. I'm not sure how to explain 
this but there is a wide strip, like a small step separating the rooms from the 
laminate flooring in the livingroom dining room, can the vacume pass through 
these small barriers, can it somehow step over these seperaters? Also when I 
take it up stairs to another lecvel, will it know to vacume the whole level 
without falling down the stairs?
Thanks for any help and feedback provided in advanced.
Regards
Zoe 

-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: June 26, 2016 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi Jeramy and all interested in the BotVac app accessibility!

My Bot just did the ground floor and returned itself to the dock. I heard 
the tune and got the message "I am done cleaning", then, I heard, what I now 
know to be an error sound, a sort of "bling blong" repeated a few times at a 
minute's interval. I have had this before and when it occurs at the end of a 
successful cycle of cleaning, I can be fairly sure it means the bin needs  
emptying . But, this time, upon seeing the error showing up in the app, I 
tapped on "more info" and, as Jeramy said, it took me straight to the 
appropriate webpage and he error showed up, as I had expected, "bin full' or 
some such. This is great! This little discovery has just extended accessibility 
of the app/BotVac enormously!! Now, just the setting up of the Wifi and the 
battery status and we are fully there!!

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:49, Jeremy Gilley <j_gil...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> So, I really didn't move the bot from the place it stopped.
> I just cleaned the brushes from some dog hairs and resumed.
> As for the error page, yes, it takes you directly to the right error page on
> the bot site.
> You can either flick right, or use the 2 finger gesture and swipe down and
> have it read the hole screen to you.
> But really, the first line of the error says it all.
> My brushes need cleaning. So, I knew just to feel for the brushes and remove
> what ever was clogging them.
> In this case was some dog hairs.
> My apartment is pretty bot ready too except one of the bathrooms. in one of
> my bathrooms, the bot can go around the toilet on one side, but always gets
> stuck on the other side and can't turn around lol.
> So, I just make sure either the door is closed, or I have something blocking
> the one side so it can't get stuck.
> Other then that, it just zooms all over the place.
> I really love it and was well worth the money.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Good call Jeramy!
> 
>So, as the error doesn't give a number, did the webpage that the "info"
> button took you to, land on the correct error message? If you know what I am
> trying to ask? Thus, not just a list of errors, but the specific one you
> were encountering? If so, this is vastly useful! I shall try it as soon as
> ever I get another error. Mind you, I am finding that, after the first
> couple of times using the Bot, I get less and less issues, I think this is
> due to the fact that my house is, now, Neato friendly.
> 
>Once you had dealt with the brushes, did you put the Bot back in the
> same place? I have read that this helps with the Bot knowing where it is. If
> you interupt cleaning and place the Bot in another place, it can have
> trouble finding the dock again.
> 
> Thanks for the tip,
> 
> Sandy. 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:00, Jeremy Gilley <j_gil...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Actually,
>> Yesterday I did get an error, and I was able to access it on my phone app.
>> In the app, when the machine stopped running, in one of the settings, I
>> forget where, it says "error".
>> Next to it was a info button. I clicked on the info button.
>> It then took me to the website for the bot, and I was able to flick right
>> and read that the brushes needed to be

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi Jeramy,

Rule 1 with the BotVac, never use fluids! Never use the Vac on wet floors 
or carpets. So, no cleaning fluid etc. Spot clean is for hoovering a defined 
space. There are 2 settings of size for spot clean. 1. Approx 6 foot x 6 foot. 
2. Approx 13 x 13 foot. The Bot will clean a square of floor, directly in front 
of it and, you can choose to do this once or have it do the area twice for a 
more intense clean. I think you could use it for a whole room, depending on the 
size of your room, or, as in my case, I might like to give a carpet an extra 
doing. For example, I have a couple of rugs, about 6 x 8 feet, if I put the Bot 
just central in front of one edge, and press the left, the spot clean, button, 
if I have set it to the smaller option, it should, pretty much do the whole rug 
and then finish. I might not want to do the whole house, as with the "clean the 
house" option. I have some rooms that are smaller than the 13 x 13 size and I 
might just want to do that room, I could use the spot clean for that. If  I 
wanted to do a large room, I could set the bot down at one end of the room, let 
it do the larger spot clean and then move it to the other end, thus, doing the 
room in two parts.

As for carpeting: I find the Bot to be very effective on carpets. Because 
most of my floors are hard, I prefer to use the squeegee brush, but this does 
do carpets well too! But to get a bit deaper, I change the brush to the one 
with bristles, every now and again. This, I think, is down to one's own 
situation/house/pets etc. But one thing is for sure, liquids of any kind, 
accidental or intentional, such as cleaning fluids or water, must not be 
present while the Bot is working.

HTH, Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 27 Jun 2016, at 01:48, Jeremy Gilley <j_gil...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Sandy,
> Does spot clean work on carpet?
> If so, would you put some kind of cleaning fluid on the carpet first? or is
> spot clean just for hard floors?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 3:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Marie,
> The left button does the spot clean. As for it getting stuck, I have only
> had mine stuck twice, that I can remember, in both cases, I just moved the
> Bot just enough to free it and left it. After about 30 seconds, it started
> up again by itself. Not sure if this is typical or not. Early days for all
> of us By the way, have you sorted out how to change between Turbo and Eco
> yet? If you need directions, let me know, it took me a little while to spot
> it!
> 
> Sandy. !! 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 26 Jun 2016, at 18:05, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, I got the vac connected to the internet. This morning I started it
> up using the home button and it went on its way. that is, until it got stuck
> under a table. I was alerted to this and went and located the vac. I pulled
> it out and check the screen on the ITouch. There was the message that
> cleaning was suspended and the Show Options, which I clicked on. The only
> option which did anything was to to go back and reset the map. I clicked on
> it and got the message that it was ready to clean but when I click on the
> Play button, nothing happens other than a beep from the vac.
>> So what now? I tried the Be My Eyes and she said she could not read the
> screen.
>> And by the way, what does the left button do?
>> Thanks. Marie
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 3:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>> 
>> Marie,
>> 
>>  I can't remember if I wrote this before: So, at the risk of repeating
> myself, press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight edge
> nearest you, holding down for 15 seconds and wait. You should hear a tune,
> you will have reset your Bot to default settings. If the Bot has not yet
> been successfully connected to the wifi, it still won't be. However, once
> the wifi is turned on again by way of the settings on the machine itself, it
> will then show up again as an access point. This happened to me too! I can
> only say that you do, for now, need help with the initial setting up of the
> wifi and this means, until the set up is completed. I have just spend the
> last week alone, apart from a mad Irish Water Spaniel, who is of no help at
> all! and my machine has worked flawlessly, doing the house every day for me,
> despite muddy paw prints!! Once you have got past this initial hiccough

RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Jeremy Gilley]

Sandy,
Does spot clean work on carpet?
If so, would you put some kind of cleaning fluid on the carpet first? or is
spot clean just for hard floors?

-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Marie,
The left button does the spot clean. As for it getting stuck, I have only
had mine stuck twice, that I can remember, in both cases, I just moved the
Bot just enough to free it and left it. After about 30 seconds, it started
up again by itself. Not sure if this is typical or not. Early days for all
of us By the way, have you sorted out how to change between Turbo and Eco
yet? If you need directions, let me know, it took me a little while to spot
it!

Sandy. !! 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 26 Jun 2016, at 18:05, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Okay, I got the vac connected to the internet. This morning I started it
up using the home button and it went on its way. that is, until it got stuck
under a table. I was alerted to this and went and located the vac. I pulled
it out and check the screen on the ITouch. There was the message that
cleaning was suspended and the Show Options, which I clicked on. The only
option which did anything was to to go back and reset the map. I clicked on
it and got the message that it was ready to clean but when I click on the
Play button, nothing happens other than a beep from the vac.
> So what now? I tried the Be My Eyes and she said she could not read the
screen.
> And by the way, what does the left button do?
> Thanks. Marie
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 3:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Marie,
> 
>   I can't remember if I wrote this before: So, at the risk of repeating
myself, press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight edge
nearest you, holding down for 15 seconds and wait. You should hear a tune,
you will have reset your Bot to default settings. If the Bot has not yet
been successfully connected to the wifi, it still won't be. However, once
the wifi is turned on again by way of the settings on the machine itself, it
will then show up again as an access point. This happened to me too! I can
only say that you do, for now, need help with the initial setting up of the
wifi and this means, until the set up is completed. I have just spend the
last week alone, apart from a mad Irish Water Spaniel, who is of no help at
all! and my machine has worked flawlessly, doing the house every day for me,
despite muddy paw prints!! Once you have got past this initial hiccough, you
should be good to go. I know that, at first, while you are getting used to
the Bot, it feels frustrating getting error messages that don't explain
themselves via the app, and I am hoping that, as more of us use the BotVac,
we can encourage an improvement in the app, but you soon learn that the
error messages that you don't receive, are, in general, of three types, I.E.
Bin needs emptying, Brushes need cleaning and Battery needs charging. This
last one happened to me because, while I thought it was properly docked and
charging, it had been knocked by the dog's ball slightly off. For now, I am
using Be My Eyes when I get stuck, not the best solution, but useful
nevertheless. However, in order to get the most out of BME, you do need to
know what to ask your volunteer to look for. For example, when I was wanting
to know the battery status, my helper couldn't see the screen. She said it
looked blank, I had a little thought and pressed, just a short press, of the
'home" button, the one to the right of the handle, this turned the Bot on
and my helper on BME could see the screen and read the status for me.
> 
>   Truly, this will sort itself, and you will learn how to deal with the
Bot, where, at the moment, we cannot read for ourselves the screen.
> 
>   Always remember, just a press of that same button will start you Bot
off, in its default setting, I.E. Clean house in Turbo mode, and then return
to dock.
> 
>   Please do keep us posted with your progress as other people are buying
this Bot and we can all learn from each other!!
> 
> Sandy.
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 22:28, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected
to the WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able to
complete the process with the app. I got through all the steps up to waiting
the 3 minutes for it to connect. At the end of that, I got the message that
it failed to connect with no explanation except to check the display screen.
If I could see the display 

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Marie,

'tis midnight here, so I don't want to set my robot off. So, I shall be 
going from memory.

When you are on the screen, in the app on your phone, you will see the name 
of your Bot. You will see "ready to clean", double-tap on that. In the new 
screen, you will see, Settings, then the name of hyour Bot, go back to 
''settings", double-tap on that. Now you should be in a screen called 
'"cleansettings".  You will then see, Eco, double-tap on that, flick again to 
the right and hear "turbo", blick again and hear "OK", double-tap on that and 
you have set it to Eco. Each time you begin a new cycle, it resets to Eco, I 
think, bu you soon get used to resetting it.

If you have hard floors, eco and the squeegee brush works best in my 
opinion. The squeegee will work on carpets, but, I think, every now and again, 
the ther brush is called for.

HTH, Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 26 Jun 2016, at 22:33, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Well, I finally took it and put it back on the dock and left it there. In 
> about 30 minutes it started up and began cleaning again. It has gone back to 
> the dock twice and is there at the moment. My house is 1800 square feet on 
> one level and it is set on turbo so I guess this first run is going to take 
> some time. I would like to have instructions on how to change to Eco so I 
> don't have to use the turbo every time. Thanks,
> Marie
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 12:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Marie,
> The left button does the spot clean. As for it getting stuck, I have only had 
> mine stuck twice, that I can remember, in both cases, I just moved the Bot 
> just enough to free it and left it. After about 30 seconds, it started up 
> again by itself. Not sure if this is typical or not. Early days for all of us 
> By the way, have you sorted out how to change between Turbo and Eco yet? If 
> you need directions, let me know, it took me a little while to spot it!
> 
> Sandy. !!
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 26 Jun 2016, at 18:05, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, I got the vac connected to the internet. This morning I started it up 
>> using the home button and it went on its way. that is, until it got stuck 
>> under a table. I was alerted to this and went and located the vac. I pulled 
>> it out and check the screen on the ITouch. There was the message that 
>> cleaning was suspended and the Show Options, which I clicked on. The only 
>> option which did anything was to to go back and reset the map. I clicked on 
>> it and got the message that it was ready to clean but when I click on the 
>> Play button, nothing happens other than a beep from the vac.
>> So what now? I tried the Be My Eyes and she said she could not read the 
>> screen.
>> And by the way, what does the left button do?
>> Thanks. Marie
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 3:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>> 
>> Marie,
>> 
>>  I can't remember if I wrote this before: So, at the risk of repeating 
>> myself, press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight edge 
>> nearest you, holding down for 15 seconds and wait. You should hear a tune, 
>> you will have reset your Bot to default settings. If the Bot has not yet 
>> been successfully connected to the wifi, it still won't be. However, once 
>> the wifi is turned on again by way of the settings on the machine itself, it 
>> will then show up again as an access point. This happened to me too! I can 
>> only say that you do, for now, need help with the initial setting up of the 
>> wifi and this means, until the set up is completed. I have just spend the 
>> last week alone, apart from a mad Irish Water Spaniel, who is of no help at 
>> all! and my machine has worked flawlessly, doing the house every day for me, 
>> despite muddy paw prints!! Once you have got past this initial hiccough, you 
>> should be good to go. I know that, at first, while you are getting used to 
>> the Bot, it feels frustrating getting error messages that don't explain 
>> themselves via the app, and I am hoping that, as more of us use the BotVac, 
>> we can encourage an improvement in the app, but you soon learn that the 
>> error messages that you don't receive, are, in general, of three types, I.E. 
>> Bin needs emptying, Brush

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Marie]

Well, I finally took it and put it back on the dock and left it there. In 
about 30 minutes it started up and began cleaning again. It has gone back to 
the dock twice and is there at the moment. My house is 1800 square feet on 
one level and it is set on turbo so I guess this first run is going to take 
some time. I would like to have instructions on how to change to Eco so I 
don't have to use the turbo every time. Thanks,

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone

Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Marie,
The left button does the spot clean. As for it getting stuck, I have only 
had mine stuck twice, that I can remember, in both cases, I just moved the 
Bot just enough to free it and left it. After about 30 seconds, it started 
up again by itself. Not sure if this is typical or not. Early days for all 
of us By the way, have you sorted out how to change between Turbo and Eco 
yet? If you need directions, let me know, it took me a little while to spot 
it!


Sandy. !!

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 26 Jun 2016, at 18:05, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:

Okay, I got the vac connected to the internet. This morning I started it 
up using the home button and it went on its way. that is, until it got 
stuck under a table. I was alerted to this and went and located the vac. I 
pulled it out and check the screen on the ITouch. There was the message 
that cleaning was suspended and the Show Options, which I clicked on. The 
only option which did anything was to to go back and reset the map. I 
clicked on it and got the message that it was ready to clean but when I 
click on the Play button, nothing happens other than a beep from the vac.
So what now? I tried the Be My Eyes and she said she could not read the 
screen.

And by the way, what does the left button do?
Thanks. Marie


-Original Message- From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 3:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Marie,

  I can't remember if I wrote this before: So, at the risk of repeating 
myself, press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight 
edge nearest you, holding down for 15 seconds and wait. You should hear a 
tune, you will have reset your Bot to default settings. If the Bot has not 
yet been successfully connected to the wifi, it still won't be. However, 
once the wifi is turned on again by way of the settings on the machine 
itself, it will then show up again as an access point. This happened to me 
too! I can only say that you do, for now, need help with the initial 
setting up of the wifi and this means, until the set up is completed. I 
have just spend the last week alone, apart from a mad Irish Water Spaniel, 
who is of no help at all! and my machine has worked flawlessly, doing the 
house every day for me, despite muddy paw prints!! Once you have got past 
this initial hiccough, you should be good to go. I know that, at first, 
while you are getting used to the Bot, it feels frustrating getting error 
messages that don't explain themselves via the app, and I am hoping that, 
as more of us use the BotVac, we can encourage an improvement in the app, 
but you soon learn that the error messages that you don't receive, are, in 
general, of three types, I.E. Bin needs emptying, Brushes need cleaning 
and Battery needs charging. This last one happened to me because, while I 
thought it was properly docked and charging, it had been knocked by the 
dog's ball slightly off. For now, I am using Be My Eyes when I get stuck, 
not the best solution, but useful nevertheless. However, in order to get 
the most out of BME, you do need to know what to ask your volunteer to 
look for. For example, when I was wanting to know the battery status, my 
helper couldn't see the screen. She said it looked blank, I had a little 
thought and pressed, just a short press, of the 'home" button, the one to 
the right of the handle, this turned the Bot on and my helper on BME could 
see the screen and read the status for me.


  Truly, this will sort itself, and you will learn how to deal with the 
Bot, where, at the moment, we cannot read for ourselves the screen.


  Always remember, just a press of that same button will start you Bot 
off, in its default setting, I.E. Clean house in Turbo mode, and then 
return to dock.


  Please do keep us posted with your progress as other people are buying 
this Bot and we can all learn from each other!!


Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 25 Jun 2016, at 22:28, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:

Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected 
to the WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able 
to complete the process with the app. I got through all the steps up to 
waiting the 3 minutes for it to co

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Marie,
The left button does the spot clean. As for it getting stuck, I have only had 
mine stuck twice, that I can remember, in both cases, I just moved the Bot just 
enough to free it and left it. After about 30 seconds, it started up again by 
itself. Not sure if this is typical or not. Early days for all of us By the 
way, have you sorted out how to change between Turbo and Eco yet? If you need 
directions, let me know, it took me a little while to spot it!

Sandy. !! 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 26 Jun 2016, at 18:05, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Okay, I got the vac connected to the internet. This morning I started it up 
> using the home button and it went on its way. that is, until it got stuck 
> under a table. I was alerted to this and went and located the vac. I pulled 
> it out and check the screen on the ITouch. There was the message that 
> cleaning was suspended and the Show Options, which I clicked on. The only 
> option which did anything was to to go back and reset the map. I clicked on 
> it and got the message that it was ready to clean but when I click on the 
> Play button, nothing happens other than a beep from the vac.
> So what now? I tried the Be My Eyes and she said she could not read the 
> screen.
> And by the way, what does the left button do?
> Thanks. Marie
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 3:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Marie,
> 
>   I can't remember if I wrote this before: So, at the risk of repeating 
> myself, press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight edge 
> nearest you, holding down for 15 seconds and wait. You should hear a tune, 
> you will have reset your Bot to default settings. If the Bot has not yet been 
> successfully connected to the wifi, it still won't be. However, once the wifi 
> is turned on again by way of the settings on the machine itself, it will then 
> show up again as an access point. This happened to me too! I can only say 
> that you do, for now, need help with the initial setting up of the wifi and 
> this means, until the set up is completed. I have just spend the last week 
> alone, apart from a mad Irish Water Spaniel, who is of no help at all! and my 
> machine has worked flawlessly, doing the house every day for me, despite 
> muddy paw prints!! Once you have got past this initial hiccough, you should 
> be good to go. I know that, at first, while you are getting used to the Bot, 
> it feels frustrating getting error messages that don't explain themselves via 
> the app, and I am hoping that, as more of us use the BotVac, we can encourage 
> an improvement in the app, but you soon learn that the error messages that 
> you don't receive, are, in general, of three types, I.E. Bin needs emptying, 
> Brushes need cleaning and Battery needs charging. This last one happened to 
> me because, while I thought it was properly docked and charging, it had been 
> knocked by the dog's ball slightly off. For now, I am using Be My Eyes when I 
> get stuck, not the best solution, but useful nevertheless. However, in order 
> to get the most out of BME, you do need to know what to ask your volunteer to 
> look for. For example, when I was wanting to know the battery status, my 
> helper couldn't see the screen. She said it looked blank, I had a little 
> thought and pressed, just a short press, of the 'home" button, the one to the 
> right of the handle, this turned the Bot on and my helper on BME could see 
> the screen and read the status for me.
> 
>   Truly, this will sort itself, and you will learn how to deal with the Bot, 
> where, at the moment, we cannot read for ourselves the screen.
> 
>   Always remember, just a press of that same button will start you Bot off, 
> in its default setting, I.E. Clean house in Turbo mode, and then return to 
> dock.
> 
>   Please do keep us posted with your progress as other people are buying this 
> Bot and we can all learn from each other!!
> 
> Sandy.
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 22:28, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected to 
>> the WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able to 
>> complete the process with the app. I got through all the steps up to waiting 
>> the 3 minutes for it to connect. At the end of that, I got the message that 
>> it failed to connect with no explanation except to check the display screen. 
>> If I could see the display screen I would not need the app. So I am a bit 
>> frustrated now with no sighted

RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Too bad about Be My Eyes.

I'm not entirely sure on the buttons, but here's my take.

The device screen is about the size and shape of a good-sized mailing lable.

When looking at the machine with the long flat edge nearest your belly, the 
screen is at about 4 o'clock or 5 o'clock relative to the large round laser cap.

When touching the screen, and bringing your finger down to the bottom:  and 
slightly off the edge of the screenI think this button is the Select button. 
It's the button I hit twice after I clear an obstacle or brush jam when I don't 
have my app right at hand.

On the right side of the screen, at the edge, are 3 buttons, which I think act 
as follows:
Top right is Page forward on the Menu screen
Middle right is move the highlighted text on the screen menu down 1 line to the 
next menu option.
Lower right is Page back on the Menu screen.

But, please confirm this with Sandy, sighted assistance, or trying again with 
Be My Eyes. I think Sandy mentioned that she has used Be My Eyes on occasion 
with her Neato.

I ran into problems with just touching the buttons not knowing what was on the 
screen. Eyes are necessary, in my opinion.

Best, Keith
Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Okay, I got the vac connected to the internet. This morning I started it up 
using the home button and it went on its way. that is, until it got stuck 
under a table. I was alerted to this and went and located the vac. I pulled 
it out and check the screen on the ITouch. There was the message that 
cleaning was suspended and the Show Options, which I clicked on. The only 
option which did anything was to to go back and reset the map. I clicked on 
it and got the message that it was ready to clean but when I click on the 
Play button, nothing happens other than a beep from the vac.
So what now? I tried the Be My Eyes and she said she could not read the 
screen.
And by the way, what does the left button do?
Thanks. Marie


-Original Message- 
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 3:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Marie,

I can't remember if I wrote this before: So, at the risk of repeating 
myself, press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight edge 
nearest you, holding down for 15 seconds and wait. You should hear a tune, 
you will have reset your Bot to default settings. If the Bot has not yet 
been successfully connected to the wifi, it still won't be. However, once 
the wifi is turned on again by way of the settings on the machine itself, it 
will then show up again as an access point. This happened to me too! I can 
only say that you do, for now, need help with the initial setting up of the 
wifi and this means, until the set up is completed. I have just spend the 
last week alone, apart from a mad Irish Water Spaniel, who is of no help at 
all! and my machine has worked flawlessly, doing the house every day for me, 
despite muddy paw prints!! Once you have got past this initial hiccough, you 
should be good to go. I know that, at first, while you are getting used to 
the Bot, it feels frustrating getting error messages that don't explain 
themselves via the app, and I am hoping that, as more of us use the BotVac, 
we can encourage an improvement in the app, but you soon learn that the 
error messages that you don't receive, are, in general, of three types, I.E. 
Bin needs emptying, Brushes need cleaning and Battery needs charging. This 
last one happened to me because, while I thought it was properly docked and 
charging, it had been knocked by the dog's ball slightly off. For now, I am 
using Be My Eyes when I get stuck, not the best solution, but useful 
nevertheless. However, in order to get the most out of BME, you do need to 
know what to ask your volunteer to look for. For example, when I was wanting 
to know the battery status, my helper couldn't see the screen. She said it 
looked blank, I had a little thought and pressed, just a short press, of the 
'home" button, the one to the right of the handle, this turned the Bot on 
and my helper on BME could see the screen and read the status for me.

Truly, this will sort itself, and you will learn how to deal with the 
Bot, where, at the moment, we cannot read for ourselves the screen.

Always remember, just a press of that same button will start you Bot 
off, in its default setting, I.E. Clean house in Turbo mode, and then return 
to dock.

Please do keep us posted with your progress as other people are buying 
this Bot and we can all learn from each other!!

Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 25 Jun 2016, at 22:28, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Well I think you might have und

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Marie]

Okay, I got the vac connected to the internet. This morning I started it up 
using the home button and it went on its way. that is, until it got stuck 
under a table. I was alerted to this and went and located the vac. I pulled 
it out and check the screen on the ITouch. There was the message that 
cleaning was suspended and the Show Options, which I clicked on. The only 
option which did anything was to to go back and reset the map. I clicked on 
it and got the message that it was ready to clean but when I click on the 
Play button, nothing happens other than a beep from the vac.
So what now? I tried the Be My Eyes and she said she could not read the 
screen.

And by the way, what does the left button do?
Thanks. Marie


-Original Message- 
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone

Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 3:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Marie,

   I can't remember if I wrote this before: So, at the risk of repeating 
myself, press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight edge 
nearest you, holding down for 15 seconds and wait. You should hear a tune, 
you will have reset your Bot to default settings. If the Bot has not yet 
been successfully connected to the wifi, it still won't be. However, once 
the wifi is turned on again by way of the settings on the machine itself, it 
will then show up again as an access point. This happened to me too! I can 
only say that you do, for now, need help with the initial setting up of the 
wifi and this means, until the set up is completed. I have just spend the 
last week alone, apart from a mad Irish Water Spaniel, who is of no help at 
all! and my machine has worked flawlessly, doing the house every day for me, 
despite muddy paw prints!! Once you have got past this initial hiccough, you 
should be good to go. I know that, at first, while you are getting used to 
the Bot, it feels frustrating getting error messages that don't explain 
themselves via the app, and I am hoping that, as more of us use the BotVac, 
we can encourage an improvement in the app, but you soon learn that the 
error messages that you don't receive, are, in general, of three types, I.E. 
Bin needs emptying, Brushes need cleaning and Battery needs charging. This 
last one happened to me because, while I thought it was properly docked and 
charging, it had been knocked by the dog's ball slightly off. For now, I am 
using Be My Eyes when I get stuck, not the best solution, but useful 
nevertheless. However, in order to get the most out of BME, you do need to 
know what to ask your volunteer to look for. For example, when I was wanting 
to know the battery status, my helper couldn't see the screen. She said it 
looked blank, I had a little thought and pressed, just a short press, of the 
'home" button, the one to the right of the handle, this turned the Bot on 
and my helper on BME could see the screen and read the status for me.


   Truly, this will sort itself, and you will learn how to deal with the 
Bot, where, at the moment, we cannot read for ourselves the screen.


   Always remember, just a press of that same button will start you Bot 
off, in its default setting, I.E. Clean house in Turbo mode, and then return 
to dock.


   Please do keep us posted with your progress as other people are buying 
this Bot and we can all learn from each other!!


Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 25 Jun 2016, at 22:28, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:

Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected 
to the WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able 
to complete the process with the app. I got through all the steps up to 
waiting the 3 minutes for it to connect. At the end of that, I got the 
message that it failed to connect with no explanation except to check the 
display screen. If I could see the display screen I would not need the 
app. So I am a bit frustrated now with no sighted assistance available and 
no way to get started. When I try to repeat the process, the Neato no 
longer shows up as an access point on the WyFy settings? any suggestions?

Marie


-Original Message- From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi all,

  After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, 
when it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. 
Then it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very 
easy. Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network 
wifi settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the 
best way to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean 
house" either with the app or just press a button, there are only two 
butt

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Marie]

Thanks for that tip. Good idea.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.

Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 3:31 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

I bet you could use Be My Eyes or some other similar app like CrowdViz. I've 
been told by my family that the on-device screen is quite easy to read. It's 
worth a try, at any rate. Keith


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jeremy Gilley

Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi,
Even calling tec support, you will need eyes for setting this up. No way 
around it.
The app allows you to set a scheduling time for it to vaccume on it's own, 
to start and pause the vacuming etc.
Sorry, but I did what you did and even called tec support, and they need 
someone to look at the screen on the vacume itself to set up the unit so 
that you can control it by the app.
App has other basic features too, but first you need to set it up using the 
screen on the machine itself and then you can use your app.
There is a check box on the screen under settings that someone with eyes 
needs to click on.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Marie

Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected to 
the WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able to 
complete the process with the app. I got through all the steps up to waiting


the 3 minutes for it to connect. At the end of that, I got the message that 
it failed to connect with no explanation except to check the display screen.


If I could see the display screen I would not need the app. So I am a bit 
frustrated now with no sighted assistance available and no way to get 
started. When I try to repeat the process, the Neato no longer shows up as 
an access point on the WyFy settings? any suggestions?

Marie


-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi all,

   After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when


it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then 
it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy.
Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi 
settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way


to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house"
either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and 
then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but 
especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show 
up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning 
replacing the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it 
is in the right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick 
way to be sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when it


has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message.

Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years!
Smug, Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

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Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi Jeramy and all interested in the BotVac app accessibility!

My Bot just did the ground floor and returned itself to the dock. I heard 
the tune and got the message "I am done cleaning", then, I heard, what I now 
know to be an error sound, a sort of "bling blong" repeated a few times at a 
minute's interval. I have had this before and when it occurs at the end of a 
successful cycle of cleaning, I can be fairly sure it means the bin needs  
emptying . But, this time, upon seeing the error showing up in the app, I 
tapped on "more info" and, as Jeramy said, it took me straight to the 
appropriate webpage and he error showed up, as I had expected, "bin full' or 
some such. This is great! This little discovery has just extended accessibility 
of the app/BotVac enormously!! Now, just the setting up of the Wifi and the 
battery status and we are fully there!!

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:49, Jeremy Gilley <j_gil...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> So, I really didn't move the bot from the place it stopped.
> I just cleaned the brushes from some dog hairs and resumed.
> As for the error page, yes, it takes you directly to the right error page on
> the bot site.
> You can either flick right, or use the 2 finger gesture and swipe down and
> have it read the hole screen to you.
> But really, the first line of the error says it all.
> My brushes need cleaning. So, I knew just to feel for the brushes and remove
> what ever was clogging them.
> In this case was some dog hairs.
> My apartment is pretty bot ready too except one of the bathrooms. in one of
> my bathrooms, the bot can go around the toilet on one side, but always gets
> stuck on the other side and can't turn around lol.
> So, I just make sure either the door is closed, or I have something blocking
> the one side so it can't get stuck.
> Other then that, it just zooms all over the place.
> I really love it and was well worth the money.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Good call Jeramy!
> 
>So, as the error doesn't give a number, did the webpage that the "info"
> button took you to, land on the correct error message? If you know what I am
> trying to ask? Thus, not just a list of errors, but the specific one you
> were encountering? If so, this is vastly useful! I shall try it as soon as
> ever I get another error. Mind you, I am finding that, after the first
> couple of times using the Bot, I get less and less issues, I think this is
> due to the fact that my house is, now, Neato friendly.
> 
>Once you had dealt with the brushes, did you put the Bot back in the
> same place? I have read that this helps with the Bot knowing where it is. If
> you interupt cleaning and place the Bot in another place, it can have
> trouble finding the dock again.
> 
> Thanks for the tip,
> 
> Sandy. 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:00, Jeremy Gilley <j_gil...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Actually,
>> Yesterday I did get an error, and I was able to access it on my phone app.
>> In the app, when the machine stopped running, in one of the settings, I
>> forget where, it says "error".
>> Next to it was a info button. I clicked on the info button.
>> It then took me to the website for the bot, and I was able to flick right
>> and read that the brushes needed to be cleaned.
>> Once I did this, I then closed out of the internet, went back to the bot
>> app, and found the play button and resumed cleaning.
>> Might be a bit time consuming yeah, but it works.
>> If you can't find the play button after fixing the error, one can just
> press
>> the home button on the machine to resume. I have done that too.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 6:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>> 
>> Marie,
>> 
>>   I can't remember if I wrote this before: So, at the risk of repeating
>> myself, press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight
> edge
>> nearest you, holding down for 15 seconds and wait. You should hear a tune,
>> you will have reset your Bot to default settings. If the Bot has not yet
>> been successfully connected to the wifi, it still won't be. However, once
>> the wifi is turned on again by way of the settings on the machine i

RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Jeremy Gilley]

Hi,
So, I really didn't move the bot from the place it stopped.
I just cleaned the brushes from some dog hairs and resumed.
As for the error page, yes, it takes you directly to the right error page on
the bot site.
You can either flick right, or use the 2 finger gesture and swipe down and
have it read the hole screen to you.
But really, the first line of the error says it all.
My brushes need cleaning. So, I knew just to feel for the brushes and remove
what ever was clogging them.
In this case was some dog hairs.
My apartment is pretty bot ready too except one of the bathrooms. in one of
my bathrooms, the bot can go around the toilet on one side, but always gets
stuck on the other side and can't turn around lol.
So, I just make sure either the door is closed, or I have something blocking
the one side so it can't get stuck.
Other then that, it just zooms all over the place.
I really love it and was well worth the money.


-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Good call Jeramy!

So, as the error doesn't give a number, did the webpage that the "info"
button took you to, land on the correct error message? If you know what I am
trying to ask? Thus, not just a list of errors, but the specific one you
were encountering? If so, this is vastly useful! I shall try it as soon as
ever I get another error. Mind you, I am finding that, after the first
couple of times using the Bot, I get less and less issues, I think this is
due to the fact that my house is, now, Neato friendly.

Once you had dealt with the brushes, did you put the Bot back in the
same place? I have read that this helps with the Bot knowing where it is. If
you interupt cleaning and place the Bot in another place, it can have
trouble finding the dock again.

Thanks for the tip,

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:00, Jeremy Gilley <j_gil...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Actually,
> Yesterday I did get an error, and I was able to access it on my phone app.
> In the app, when the machine stopped running, in one of the settings, I
> forget where, it says "error".
> Next to it was a info button. I clicked on the info button.
> It then took me to the website for the bot, and I was able to flick right
> and read that the brushes needed to be cleaned.
> Once I did this, I then closed out of the internet, went back to the bot
> app, and found the play button and resumed cleaning.
> Might be a bit time consuming yeah, but it works.
> If you can't find the play button after fixing the error, one can just
press
> the home button on the machine to resume. I have done that too.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 6:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Marie,
> 
>I can't remember if I wrote this before: So, at the risk of repeating
> myself, press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight
edge
> nearest you, holding down for 15 seconds and wait. You should hear a tune,
> you will have reset your Bot to default settings. If the Bot has not yet
> been successfully connected to the wifi, it still won't be. However, once
> the wifi is turned on again by way of the settings on the machine itself,
it
> will then show up again as an access point. This happened to me too! I can
> only say that you do, for now, need help with the initial setting up of
the
> wifi and this means, until the set up is completed. I have just spend the
> last week alone, apart from a mad Irish Water Spaniel, who is of no help
at
> all! and my machine has worked flawlessly, doing the house every day for
me,
> despite muddy paw prints!! Once you have got past this initial hiccough,
you
> should be good to go. I know that, at first, while you are getting used to
> the Bot, it feels frustrating getting error messages that don't explain
> themselves via the app, and I am hoping that, as more of us use the
BotVac,
> we can encourage an improvement in the app, but you soon learn that the
> error messages that you don't receive, are, in general, of three types,
I.E.
> Bin needs emptying, Brushes need cleaning and Battery needs charging. This
> last one happened to me because, while I thought it was properly docked
and
> charging, it had been knocked by the dog's ball slightly off. For now, I
am
> using Be My Eyes when I get stuck, not the best solution, but useful
> nevertheless. However, in order to get the most out of BME, you do need to
> know what to ask your volunteer to look for. For example, when I was
wanting
> to know the battery s

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Good call Jeramy!

So, as the error doesn't give a number, did the webpage that the "info" 
button took you to, land on the correct error message? If you know what I am 
trying to ask? Thus, not just a list of errors, but the specific one you were 
encountering? If so, this is vastly useful! I shall try it as soon as ever I 
get another error. Mind you, I am finding that, after the first couple of times 
using the Bot, I get less and less issues, I think this is due to the fact that 
my house is, now, Neato friendly.

Once you had dealt with the brushes, did you put the Bot back in the same 
place? I have read that this helps with the Bot knowing where it is. If you 
interupt cleaning and place the Bot in another place, it can have trouble 
finding the dock again.

Thanks for the tip,

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:00, Jeremy Gilley <j_gil...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Actually,
> Yesterday I did get an error, and I was able to access it on my phone app.
> In the app, when the machine stopped running, in one of the settings, I
> forget where, it says "error".
> Next to it was a info button. I clicked on the info button.
> It then took me to the website for the bot, and I was able to flick right
> and read that the brushes needed to be cleaned.
> Once I did this, I then closed out of the internet, went back to the bot
> app, and found the play button and resumed cleaning.
> Might be a bit time consuming yeah, but it works.
> If you can't find the play button after fixing the error, one can just press
> the home button on the machine to resume. I have done that too.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 6:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Marie,
> 
>I can't remember if I wrote this before: So, at the risk of repeating
> myself, press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight edge
> nearest you, holding down for 15 seconds and wait. You should hear a tune,
> you will have reset your Bot to default settings. If the Bot has not yet
> been successfully connected to the wifi, it still won't be. However, once
> the wifi is turned on again by way of the settings on the machine itself, it
> will then show up again as an access point. This happened to me too! I can
> only say that you do, for now, need help with the initial setting up of the
> wifi and this means, until the set up is completed. I have just spend the
> last week alone, apart from a mad Irish Water Spaniel, who is of no help at
> all! and my machine has worked flawlessly, doing the house every day for me,
> despite muddy paw prints!! Once you have got past this initial hiccough, you
> should be good to go. I know that, at first, while you are getting used to
> the Bot, it feels frustrating getting error messages that don't explain
> themselves via the app, and I am hoping that, as more of us use the BotVac,
> we can encourage an improvement in the app, but you soon learn that the
> error messages that you don't receive, are, in general, of three types, I.E.
> Bin needs emptying, Brushes need cleaning and Battery needs charging. This
> last one happened to me because, while I thought it was properly docked and
> charging, it had been knocked by the dog's ball slightly off. For now, I am
> using Be My Eyes when I get stuck, not the best solution, but useful
> nevertheless. However, in order to get the most out of BME, you do need to
> know what to ask your volunteer to look for. For example, when I was wanting
> to know the battery status, my helper couldn't see the screen. She said it
> looked blank, I had a little thought and pressed, just a short press, of the
> 'home" button, the one to the right of the handle, this turned the Bot on
> and my helper on BME could see the screen and read the status for me.
> 
>Truly, this will sort itself, and you will learn how to deal with the
> Bot, where, at the moment, we cannot read for ourselves the screen.
> 
>Always remember, just a press of that same button will start you Bot
> off, in its default setting, I.E. Clean house in Turbo mode, and then return
> to dock.
> 
>Please do keep us posted with your progress as other people are buying
> this Bot and we can all learn from each other!!
> 
> Sandy.  
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 22:28, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected
> to the WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able to
> complete the process with the app. I got through a

RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Jeremy Gilley]

Actually,
Yesterday I did get an error, and I was able to access it on my phone app.
In the app, when the machine stopped running, in one of the settings, I
forget where, it says "error".
Next to it was a info button. I clicked on the info button.
It then took me to the website for the bot, and I was able to flick right
and read that the brushes needed to be cleaned.
Once I did this, I then closed out of the internet, went back to the bot
app, and found the play button and resumed cleaning.
Might be a bit time consuming yeah, but it works.
If you can't find the play button after fixing the error, one can just press
the home button on the machine to resume. I have done that too.


-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 6:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Marie,

I can't remember if I wrote this before: So, at the risk of repeating
myself, press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight edge
nearest you, holding down for 15 seconds and wait. You should hear a tune,
you will have reset your Bot to default settings. If the Bot has not yet
been successfully connected to the wifi, it still won't be. However, once
the wifi is turned on again by way of the settings on the machine itself, it
will then show up again as an access point. This happened to me too! I can
only say that you do, for now, need help with the initial setting up of the
wifi and this means, until the set up is completed. I have just spend the
last week alone, apart from a mad Irish Water Spaniel, who is of no help at
all! and my machine has worked flawlessly, doing the house every day for me,
despite muddy paw prints!! Once you have got past this initial hiccough, you
should be good to go. I know that, at first, while you are getting used to
the Bot, it feels frustrating getting error messages that don't explain
themselves via the app, and I am hoping that, as more of us use the BotVac,
we can encourage an improvement in the app, but you soon learn that the
error messages that you don't receive, are, in general, of three types, I.E.
Bin needs emptying, Brushes need cleaning and Battery needs charging. This
last one happened to me because, while I thought it was properly docked and
charging, it had been knocked by the dog's ball slightly off. For now, I am
using Be My Eyes when I get stuck, not the best solution, but useful
nevertheless. However, in order to get the most out of BME, you do need to
know what to ask your volunteer to look for. For example, when I was wanting
to know the battery status, my helper couldn't see the screen. She said it
looked blank, I had a little thought and pressed, just a short press, of the
'home" button, the one to the right of the handle, this turned the Bot on
and my helper on BME could see the screen and read the status for me.

Truly, this will sort itself, and you will learn how to deal with the
Bot, where, at the moment, we cannot read for ourselves the screen.

Always remember, just a press of that same button will start you Bot
off, in its default setting, I.E. Clean house in Turbo mode, and then return
to dock.

Please do keep us posted with your progress as other people are buying
this Bot and we can all learn from each other!!

Sandy.  

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 25 Jun 2016, at 22:28, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected
to the WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able to
complete the process with the app. I got through all the steps up to waiting
the 3 minutes for it to connect. At the end of that, I got the message that
it failed to connect with no explanation except to check the display screen.
If I could see the display screen I would not need the app. So I am a bit
frustrated now with no sighted assistance available and no way to get
started. When I try to repeat the process, the Neato no longer shows up as
an access point on the WyFy settings? any suggestions?
> Marie
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>   After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little
better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when
it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then
it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy.
Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi
settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way
to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house"
either with the app or just press a button, t

Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Marie,

I can't remember if I wrote this before: So, at the risk of repeating 
myself, press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight edge 
nearest you, holding down for 15 seconds and wait. You should hear a tune, you 
will have reset your Bot to default settings. If the Bot has not yet been 
successfully connected to the wifi, it still won't be. However, once the wifi 
is turned on again by way of the settings on the machine itself, it will then 
show up again as an access point. This happened to me too! I can only say that 
you do, for now, need help with the initial setting up of the wifi and this 
means, until the set up is completed. I have just spend the last week alone, 
apart from a mad Irish Water Spaniel, who is of no help at all! and my machine 
has worked flawlessly, doing the house every day for me, despite muddy paw 
prints!! Once you have got past this initial hiccough, you should be good to 
go. I know that, at first, while you are getting used to the Bot, it feels 
frustrating getting error messages that don't explain themselves via the app, 
and I am hoping that, as more of us use the BotVac, we can encourage an 
improvement in the app, but you soon learn that the error messages that you 
don't receive, are, in general, of three types, I.E. Bin needs emptying, 
Brushes need cleaning and Battery needs charging. This last one happened to me 
because, while I thought it was properly docked and charging, it had been 
knocked by the dog's ball slightly off. For now, I am using Be My Eyes when I 
get stuck, not the best solution, but useful nevertheless. However, in order to 
get the most out of BME, you do need to know what to ask your volunteer to look 
for. For example, when I was wanting to know the battery status, my helper 
couldn't see the screen. She said it looked blank, I had a little thought and 
pressed, just a short press, of the 'home" button, the one to the right of the 
handle, this turned the Bot on and my helper on BME could see the screen and 
read the status for me.

Truly, this will sort itself, and you will learn how to deal with the Bot, 
where, at the moment, we cannot read for ourselves the screen.

Always remember, just a press of that same button will start you Bot off, 
in its default setting, I.E. Clean house in Turbo mode, and then return to dock.

Please do keep us posted with your progress as other people are buying this 
Bot and we can all learn from each other!!

Sandy.  

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 25 Jun 2016, at 22:28, Marie  wrote:
> 
> Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected to 
> the WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able to 
> complete the process with the app. I got through all the steps up to waiting 
> the 3 minutes for it to connect. At the end of that, I got the message that 
> it failed to connect with no explanation except to check the display screen. 
> If I could see the display screen I would not need the app. So I am a bit 
> frustrated now with no sighted assistance available and no way to get 
> started. When I try to repeat the process, the Neato no longer shows up as an 
> access point on the WyFy settings? any suggestions?
> Marie
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>   After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
> better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when 
> it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then it 
> returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy. Useful 
> for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi settings are 
> almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way to deal with 
> the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house" either with the 
> app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and then leaving it 
> to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but especially for 
> us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show up on the onboard 
> screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning replacing the Bot on 
> its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it is in the right 
> position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick way to be sure 
> would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when it has finished, 
> it will go home and play a tune and send a message.
> 
> Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years!
> Smug, Sandy.
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
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RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

I bet you could use Be My Eyes or some other similar app like CrowdViz. I've 
been told by my family that the on-device screen is quite easy to read. It's 
worth a try, at any rate. Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jeremy Gilley
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi,
Even calling tec support, you will need eyes for setting this up. No way around 
it.
The app allows you to set a scheduling time for it to vaccume on it's own, to 
start and pause the vacuming etc.
Sorry, but I did what you did and even called tec support, and they need 
someone to look at the screen on the vacume itself to set up the unit so that 
you can control it by the app.
App has other basic features too, but first you need to set it up using the 
screen on the machine itself and then you can use your app.
There is a check box on the screen under settings that someone with eyes needs 
to click on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected to the 
WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able to complete 
the process with the app. I got through all the steps up to waiting

the 3 minutes for it to connect. At the end of that, I got the message that it 
failed to connect with no explanation except to check the display screen.

If I could see the display screen I would not need the app. So I am a bit 
frustrated now with no sighted assistance available and no way to get started. 
When I try to repeat the process, the Neato no longer shows up as an access 
point on the WyFy settings? any suggestions?
Marie


-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi all,

After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when

it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then it 
returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy. 
Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi settings 
are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way

to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house" 
either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and 
then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but 
especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show up 
on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning replacing 
the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it is in the 
right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick way to be sure 
would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when it

has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message.

Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years!
Smug, Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

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Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Marie]

I believe that has been check by my sister when she was here. It would be 
nice if the app could at least give you some idea of what the problem is 
instead of just saying it failed to connect and then tell you to look at the 
display\lay screen. I managed to get in touch with a young neighbor who is 
very tech savvy and he is coming over in a while to see what he can do.

Thanks, Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Jeremy Gilley

Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi,
Even calling tec support, you will need eyes for setting this up. No way
around it.
The app allows you to set a scheduling time for it to vaccume on it's own,
to start and pause the vacuming etc.
Sorry, but I did what you did and even called tec support, and they need
someone to look at the screen on the vacume itself to set up the unit so
that you can control it by the app.
App has other basic features too, but first you need to set it up using the
screen on the machine itself and then you can use your app.
There is a check box on the screen under settings that someone with eyes
needs to click on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marie
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected to
the WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able to
complete the process with the app. I got through all the steps up to waiting

the 3 minutes for it to connect. At the end of that, I got the message that
it failed to connect with no explanation except to check the display screen.

If I could see the display screen I would not need the app. So I am a bit
frustrated now with no sighted assistance available and no way to get
started. When I try to repeat the process, the Neato no longer shows up as
an access point on the WyFy settings? any suggestions?
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone

Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi all,

   After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little
better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when

it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then
it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy.
Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi
settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way

to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house"
either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and
then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but
especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show
up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning
replacing the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it
is in the right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick
way to be sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when it

has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message.

Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years!
Smug, Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

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Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

marie,

I am just guessing here, but might it be your wifi? In the documentation, it 
says that your router needs to use the 2. something and not 5. something. If 
your sister set it up and then you continued with the process, the problem 
would not have become evident until the Bot tried to connect. I did always say 
that the connection to the wifi was not accessible to us. If it is your router, 
I think, and I may be wrong, that you can change the settings on the router. If 
you use the app and go to "help" in the app, the frequently asked questions 
deals with router issues. If it is a router issue, it is not one of 
accessibility, but one that affects all!

Remember, for a basic house clean, I.E., do all of one floor, you can just 
press the button to the right of the handle, with the straight edge nearest to 
you, you may hear a musical sound, then, if nothing happens, press it again, 
and the Bot should begin its work.

I am sorry you are experiencing these frustrations, but, so long as you can 
sort out your router issues, if that is the problem, you should be happy. 
However, I have to say this: there is a settling in period. You may, for 
example, find that the Bot gets stuck a lot at the beginning, this is because, 
all of these Bots need the right environment. So, where they get stuck, you 
deal with the problem, they are smart, but you are smarter!!

Good luck and keep us posted.

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 25 Jun 2016, at 22:42, Jeremy Gilley <j_gil...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Even calling tec support, you will need eyes for setting this up. No way
> around it.
> The app allows you to set a scheduling time for it to vaccume on it's own,
> to start and pause the vacuming etc.
> Sorry, but I did what you did and even called tec support, and they need
> someone to look at the screen on the vacume itself to set up the unit so
> that you can control it by the app.
> App has other basic features too, but first you need to set it up using the
> screen on the machine itself and then you can use your app.
> There is a check box on the screen under settings that someone with eyes
> needs to click on.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Marie
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected to 
> the WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able to 
> complete the process with the app. I got through all the steps up to waiting
> 
> the 3 minutes for it to connect. At the end of that, I got the message that 
> it failed to connect with no explanation except to check the display screen.
> 
> If I could see the display screen I would not need the app. So I am a bit 
> frustrated now with no sighted assistance available and no way to get 
> started. When I try to repeat the process, the Neato no longer shows up as 
> an access point on the WyFy settings? any suggestions?
> Marie
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
> better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when
> 
> it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then 
> it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy. 
> Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi 
> settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way
> 
> to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house" 
> either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and 
> then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but 
> especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show 
> up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning 
> replacing the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it 
> is in the right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick 
> way to be sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when it
> 
> has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message.
> 
> Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years!
> Smug, Sandy.
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
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RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Jeremy Gilley]

Hi,
Even calling tec support, you will need eyes for setting this up. No way
around it.
The app allows you to set a scheduling time for it to vaccume on it's own,
to start and pause the vacuming etc.
Sorry, but I did what you did and even called tec support, and they need
someone to look at the screen on the vacume itself to set up the unit so
that you can control it by the app.
App has other basic features too, but first you need to set it up using the
screen on the machine itself and then you can use your app.
There is a check box on the screen under settings that someone with eyes
needs to click on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marie
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected to 
the WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able to 
complete the process with the app. I got through all the steps up to waiting

the 3 minutes for it to connect. At the end of that, I got the message that 
it failed to connect with no explanation except to check the display screen.

If I could see the display screen I would not need the app. So I am a bit 
frustrated now with no sighted assistance available and no way to get 
started. When I try to repeat the process, the Neato no longer shows up as 
an access point on the WyFy settings? any suggestions?
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi all,

After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when

it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then 
it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy. 
Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi 
settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way

to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house" 
either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and 
then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but 
especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show 
up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning 
replacing the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it 
is in the right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick 
way to be sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when it

has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message.

Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years!
Smug, Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

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Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Marie]

Well I think you might have underestimated the ease of getting connected to 
the WyFy. I had my sister turn it on and then thought I would be able to 
complete the process with the app. I got through all the steps up to waiting 
the 3 minutes for it to connect. At the end of that, I got the message that 
it failed to connect with no explanation except to check the display screen. 
If I could see the display screen I would not need the app. So I am a bit 
frustrated now with no sighted assistance available and no way to get 
started. When I try to repeat the process, the Neato no longer shows up as 
an access point on the WyFy settings? any suggestions?

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone

Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Hi all,

   After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when 
it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then 
it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy. 
Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi 
settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way 
to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house" 
either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and 
then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but 
especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show 
up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning 
replacing the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it 
is in the right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick 
way to be sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when it 
has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message.


Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years!
Smug, Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

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Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi,

Yes! Pressing the 'home" button for 15 seconds works for me. Because we 
turn our wifi off at night, I do have to do this each morning, to get the Vac 
online. If I don't turn the wifi off, then the vac stays connected. Sometimes, 
the app reports "off line" eroniously, and it is suggested that you should 
close the app from the app switcher and restart it. Plus, remember, it will 
depend upon your wifi strength, the vac may take up to 3 minutes to connect. 

The main thing is this: we do need sighted help to initially enable wifi, 
by way of the menu system on the Bot itself. However, once this is done, it 
shouldn't need doing again, if the Bot is off line, then the long, 15 second, 
press of the home button will reset it and ti should find the wifi.

To date, the only thing I cannot access with the app is the battery status. 
This does show up on the app, but it is an image, with indicator bars, I think. 
So, no writing, nothing to VO to read. I tried a screen-shot with KNFB Reader, 
but it couldn't do anything with it, as there are no letters or numbers. I have 
contacted the Neato support, at the moment, they say it is a Voice-Over issue. 
I am trying to talk with their app developers to get them to look at it, but no 
success as yet. Perhaps, if others who use this vacuum, could raise the issue 
too, we might get somewhere. Not knowing the battery status is not so important 
as the vac takes itself back to the dock when it needs to, but, on rare 
occasions, I have to put the vac on the dock by hand and I am never sure if it 
has engaged properly. So, I would love to be able to check on battery status 
and if it is charging.

Apart from this little niggle, I am finding the BotVac to be an excellent 
cleaner. Try not to watch it too much, your very presence will affect its 
mapping. Best, by far, to let it do its own thing!! Sometimes it seems to be 
missing something, as if it has forgotten, but, I find, it does, generally, go 
back and complete its task. It is brilliant at returning to the place it 
started, even, upstairs, where the dock is not, it returns exactly where I 
started it. So, easy to find. 

Lastly, often, when I start the app, I may see "off line", but, if I reread 
the screen, that status is changed to "ready to clean".

Hope you enjoy your new toy and don't have too many problems!!

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 23 Jun 2016, at 01:25, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
> 
> Try holding down the Home button for 15 seconds. This is the button along the 
> top edge of the device, near the border of the flat edge. It's the button on 
> the right when looking from the front flat edge. That may help reconnect to 
> your WiFi. Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> bpabbo...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> just got the vac connected to wifi today  and it started cleaning the house. 
> At first it was a little confused having difficulty with the dining room 
> table and finally ran out of juice and went back to its charger.
> 
> However surprisingly it is now vacuuming again and vacuuming in different 
> parts of the house that it missed before.
> 
> One problem I have is that the vacuum is now off-line and I don't think 
> there's anyway for us to get it back online until we have cited help we 
> purchased it in Canada at baths and beyond for around $899 which was $100 
> cheaper than Amazon
> 
> Sent from Bäry Abbott's  iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 12:17 AM, Robert Doc Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. Bissle has one on QVC. I'm hoping it goes under their easy pay soon.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>> 
>> 
>> hi Robert,
>> if you are in America, people seem to be finding the best deal is from 
>> "Best Buy". it is expensive though, about $600!
>> 
>> good luck,
>> Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 16 Jun 2016, at 11:32, Robert Doc Wright 
>>> <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where did you find this vaccuum and how much is it?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
&g

RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Try holding down the Home button for 15 seconds. This is the button along the 
top edge of the device, near the border of the flat edge. It's the button on 
the right when looking from the front flat edge. That may help reconnect to 
your WiFi. Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bpabbo...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

just got the vac connected to wifi today  and it started cleaning the house. At 
first it was a little confused having difficulty with the dining room table and 
finally ran out of juice and went back to its charger.

However surprisingly it is now vacuuming again and vacuuming in different parts 
of the house that it missed before.

One problem I have is that the vacuum is now off-line and I don't think there's 
anyway for us to get it back online until we have cited help we purchased it in 
Canada at baths and beyond for around $899 which was $100 cheaper than Amazon

Sent from Bäry Abbott's  iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 12:17 AM, Robert Doc Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. Bissle has one on QVC. I'm hoping it goes under their easy pay soon.
> - Original Message -
> From: "'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> 
> hi Robert,
> if you are in America, people seem to be finding the best deal is from 
> "Best Buy". it is expensive though, about $600!
> 
> good luck,
> Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 16 Jun 2016, at 11:32, Robert Doc Wright 
>> <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Where did you find this vaccuum and how much is it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:14 AM
>> Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>   After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a 
>> little better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a 
>> spot clean, when it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 
>> meters x 4 meters. Then it returns to base. I did this by just 
>> pressing a button, so very easy.
>> Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi 
>> settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the 
>> best way to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., 
>> "clean house"
>> either with the app or just press a button, there are only two 
>> buttons, and then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true 
>> for all users, but especially for us, as not all notifications are 
>> sent to the app, some show up on the onboard screen and need to be 
>> read. I find it a bit concerning replacing the Bot on its dock, 
>> visually, you can tell by the lights that it is in the right 
>> position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick way to be 
>> sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when it 
>> has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message.
>> 
>> Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years!
>> Smug, Sandy.
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
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Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[bpabbott9]

just got the vac connected to wifi today  and it started cleaning the house. At 
first it was a little confused having difficulty with the dining room table and 
finally ran out of juice and went back to its charger.

However surprisingly it is now vacuuming again and vacuuming in different parts 
of the house that it missed before.

One problem I have is that the vacuum is now off-line and I don't think there's 
anyway for us to get it back online until we have cited help we purchased it in 
Canada at baths and beyond for around $899 which was $100 cheaper than Amazon

Sent from Bäry Abbott's  iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 12:17 AM, Robert Doc Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. Bissle has one on QVC. I'm hoping it goes under their easy pay soon.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> 
> hi Robert,
> if you are in America, people seem to be finding the best deal is from "Best 
> Buy". it is expensive though, about $600!
> 
> good luck,
> Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 16 Jun 2016, at 11:32, Robert Doc Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Where did you find this vaccuum and how much is it?
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:14 AM
>> Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>   After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little
>> better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, 
>> when
>> it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then
>> it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy.
>> Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi
>> settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best 
>> way
>> to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house"
>> either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, 
>> and
>> then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, 
>> but
>> especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show
>> up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning
>> replacing the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that 
>> it
>> is in the right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick
>> way to be sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when 
>> it
>> has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message.
>> 
>> Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years!
>> Smug, Sandy.
>> 
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Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Robert Doc Wright]

Thanks. Bissle has one on QVC. I'm hoping it goes under their easy pay soon.
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From: "'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.


hi Robert,
if you are in America, people seem to be finding the best deal is from "Best 
Buy". it is expensive though, about $600!

good luck,
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 16 Jun 2016, at 11:32, Robert Doc Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Where did you find this vaccuum and how much is it?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:14 AM
> Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little
> better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, 
> when
> it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then
> it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy.
> Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi
> settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best 
> way
> to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house"
> either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, 
> and
> then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, 
> but
> especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show
> up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning
> replacing the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that 
> it
> is in the right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick
> way to be sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when 
> it
> has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message.
>
> Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years!
> Smug, Sandy.
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi Robert,
if you are in America, people seem to be finding the best deal is from "Best 
Buy". it is expensive though, about $600!

good luck,
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 16 Jun 2016, at 11:32, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
> 
> Where did you find this vaccuum and how much is it?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:14 AM
> Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
> better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when 
> it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then 
> it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy. 
> Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi 
> settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way 
> to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house" 
> either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and 
> then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but 
> especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show 
> up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning 
> replacing the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it 
> is in the right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick 
> way to be sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when it 
> has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message.
> 
> Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years!
> Smug, Sandy.
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Robert Doc Wright]

Where did you find this vaccuum and how much is it?
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From: "'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:14 AM
Subject: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.


Hi all,

After a little panic on my part, i now find I can use the app a little 
better! i just managed to change Turbo to Eco. I just did a spot clean, when 
it cleans an area, either 2 meters x 2 meters or 4 meters x 4 meters. Then 
it returns to base. I did this by just pressing a button, so very easy. 
Useful for rugs or single rooms. My issues with my house network wifi 
settings are almost resolved, touch wood. I am discovering that the best way 
to deal with the vac is to let it do its own thing, I.E., "clean house" 
either with the app or just press a button, there are only two buttons, and 
then leaving it to finish. From my reading, this is true for all users, but 
especially for us, as not all notifications are sent to the app, some show 
up on the onboard screen and need to be read. I find it a bit concerning 
replacing the Bot on its dock, visually, you can tell by the lights that it 
is in the right position, but without the clues, hard to tell. So a quick 
way to be sure would be to do a "spot clean" by pressing one button, when it 
has finished, it will go home and play a tune and send a message.

Still very happy, floors cleaner than they have been for years!
Smug, Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

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