Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I believe your right, and Sprint is still charging for the service.  I just 
tried and, got the prompt to call sprint.

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 30, 2012, at 12:01 AM, Brent Harding  wrote:

> I believe it's $19.99 for 2 gigs and $49.99 for 6 with another option in the 
> middle. I read a tweet yesterday though that someone said her phone no longer 
> said to call customer service to enable tethering and that it just worked. I 
> don't know if she meant that she had already done so and the phone never 
> received the hit saying tethering was OK until yesterday, despite adding it, 
> or if she meant she had gotten it for free. If I decided to go with one of 
> the plans for only a week and shut it off, what might the prorate be expected 
> to be? I'm trying to decide if I should just buy the ITether service and go 
> that route or if turning it on for a week and then back off is better. What I 
> don't want to do is reset my contract for 2 more years over a week of wanting 
> wifi because that will move my upgrade date back.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Hank Smith" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:53 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.
> 
> 
>> Hello
>> does sprint charge for teathering? to be used a s as a mobile hotspot?
>> Hank
>> 
>> On 8/29/2012 8:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> Hi, there was a recent judgement passed against Verizon that they had to 
>>> provide tethering for free. Whether the other big name cell guys will 
>>> follow suit is anyone's guess. So, right now AT&T still charges for 
>>> tethering services. Many people with jailbroken cell phones use an app 
>>> called PDA Net and then they can tether on their existing data.
>>> 
>>> On another note, I agree that the new data shared plan that AT&T is 
>>> so-called offering is a joke. It will end up costing us more than what we 
>>> pay now for our 3 phones if we switch to it. Unlimited minutes? Big deal. I 
>>> get that already thanks to Google Voice. So, it's not an attractive deal 
>>> for me. Now, if they only charged like $9.99 per extra phone then it would 
>>> be worth considering, but not right now.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 8/26/2012 6:45 PM, Jenifer wrote:
 Does at&t?
 On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:
 
> Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either.
> 
> 
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> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:28 PM
> To: The iPhone List
> Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot.
> 
> Hi all.
> How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can 
> connect
> my Mack to?  I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere else.  Any suggestions?
> Thanks in advance.
> Jenifer
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RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Everybody,

I have always been amazed about how AT&T and other big carriers can charge
for this, after all, if you have 2 Gig of data with your package and you are
paying for it, shouldn't you be able to use that data as you see fit? Here
in Canada no carrier is allowed to charge extra for tethering, it's illegal.
I also don't think there are extra charges for that in Australia, NZ or
Europe.

Why doesn't every person in the States who has a Smartphone flood their
Congress Man''s or Congress Woman's office  with letters asking that the
government put a stop to that, if a ruling has been passed to force Verizon
to do it, why doesn't this apply to other major carriers, sounds hardly fair
to me.


Regards,
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Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[denise avant]

hi,
does anyone know for certain if adding the ability to use your phone as a 
personal hot spot breaks the contract with at&t. I have the old unlimited data 
plan, and as you can imagine don't want to give it up. but from time to time i 
need to use my phone as a personal hotspot. i have thought about an air card 
for my computer, but that is an extra charge, but i don't need it is often  to 
make adding a new plan worth it.


On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:43 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos"  wrote:

> Hi, there was a recent judgement passed against Verizon that they had to 
> provide tethering for free. Whether the other big name cell guys will follow 
> suit is anyone's guess. So, right now AT&T still charges for tethering 
> services. Many people with jailbroken cell phones use an app called PDA Net 
> and then they can tether on their existing data.
> 
> On another note, I agree that the new data shared plan that AT&T is so-called 
> offering is a joke. It will end up costing us more than what we pay now for 
> our 3 phones if we switch to it. Unlimited minutes? Big deal. I get that 
> already thanks to Google Voice. So, it's not an attractive deal for me. Now, 
> if they only charged like $9.99 per extra phone then it would be worth 
> considering, but not right now.
> 
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> On 8/26/2012 6:45 PM, Jenifer wrote:
>> Does at&t?
>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Jenifer
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:28 PM
>>> To: The iPhone List
>>> Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can connect
>>> my Mack to?  I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere else.  Any suggestions?
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Jenifer
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Ot: Looking for another List

[Anne Günther]

Hi folks
I'm looking for something like this list but for pc questions. Any 
Suggestions?

I'm also open to other forms of communication: Chat zelloChannel whatever.
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Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Scott Howell]

Raul,

I really wonder if AT&T just wants to drive customers away because they sure as 
hell seem intent on doing just that. I had a long conversation with AT&T 
customer service and it was apparent they could not even accurately explain the 
plans. I had to talk to two different reps to get the story. THe part that 
really has me rankled is that when iOS 6 is released, I have read and AT&T 
confirmed that if you wanted to use Face TIme on the 3G network you would have 
to be covered by one of the shared data plans. Now regardless of how often I 
would use Face Time, I cannot imagine that AT&T can block this service. I 
understand it is their network, but I did not sign a contract that limited me 
to specific protocols etc. either. I am not sure what AT&T's plans are, but 
they really do seem to have lost interest in customer service. So, I for one 
will not be upgrading and in fact I cannot wait until next October when my AT&T 
contract ends because my hope is the field of opportunity will be broader.
I am pretty disappointed in how AT&T has handled the whole shared data plan 
issue. THey really could have capitalized on the opportunity and really made it 
a sweet deal for customers-create a win win situation, but guess that was not 
their goal.

On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

> Hi, there was a recent judgement passed against Verizon that they had to 
> provide tethering for free. Whether the other big name cell guys will follow 
> suit is anyone's guess. So, right now AT&T still charges for tethering 
> services. Many people with jailbroken cell phones use an app called PDA Net 
> and then they can tether on their existing data.
> 
> On another note, I agree that the new data shared plan that AT&T is so-called 
> offering is a joke. It will end up costing us more than what we pay now for 
> our 3 phones if we switch to it. Unlimited minutes? Big deal. I get that 
> already thanks to Google Voice. So, it's not an attractive deal for me. Now, 
> if they only charged like $9.99 per extra phone then it would be worth 
> considering, but not right now.
> 
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> I'm such a klutz! I just tripped over my cordless phone.
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> On 8/26/2012 6:45 PM, Jenifer wrote:
>> Does at&t?
>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Jenifer
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:28 PM
>>> To: The iPhone List
>>> Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can connect
>>> my Mack to?  I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere else.  Any suggestions?
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Jenifer
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Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Scott Howell]

Because it takes enough people to complain and figuring out the process is very 
time consuming. I'm hoping that I can find some time to figure out how the FCC 
dealt with Verizon and maybe that would give me what I need to launch a 
campaign against AT&T. I agree that data is data and charging for tethering or 
using Face Time is asinine.
I don't mind paying for a service and especially if the provider is really 
pumping money into upgrades and improvement of service. I do not believe all 
these complicated plans are designed to further the improvement of service. :)

On Aug 30, 2012, at 3:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hello Everybody,
> 
> I have always been amazed about how AT&T and other big carriers can charge
> for this, after all, if you have 2 Gig of data with your package and you are
> paying for it, shouldn't you be able to use that data as you see fit? Here
> in Canada no carrier is allowed to charge extra for tethering, it's illegal.
> I also don't think there are extra charges for that in Australia, NZ or
> Europe.
> 
> Why doesn't every person in the States who has a Smartphone flood their
> Congress Man''s or Congress Woman's office  with letters asking that the
> government put a stop to that, if a ruling has been passed to force Verizon
> to do it, why doesn't this apply to other major carriers, sounds hardly fair
> to me.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Scott Howell]

Raul,

Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from perhaps 4Gb 
to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge goes up. So, the only 
way these data plans make sense is for people with lots of devices. AT&T really 
did not take into account the families with two or three phones. The $70 for 
unlimited text and voice is not to bad I suppose, although the cost for text is 
so out of line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow for carriers. :)

On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

> Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and texts. 
> You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but then you pay 
> for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a 4gb plan with 3 
> phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40 per phone. So, do the 
> math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take one of their older plans like 
> the 700 minute shared minute plan with unlimited text and mobile to any 
> mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60 for the plan, plus 30 for the texting, 
> plus roughly 10 per each phone, plus the data on those phones. So, 60 plus 30 
> plus 30 for 3 phones makes 120. Now add data. Let's say 30 per phone for 3gb 
> each. that's an extra 90 making it 210. So maybe going with the 4gb plan for 
> those same 3 phones will save you 20. However if you have an older plan like 
> the one paying 15 or 20 per month on data plans, then switching to the new 
> data shared plan costs more.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
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> On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:
>> I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the personal
>> hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I have
>> it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
>> Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long run,
>> but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade through
>> the AT&T site to understand their shared data information, but finally
>> just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Kevin Barry > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date sent: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:42:51 -0400
>> Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>> 
>> In theory yes; however I have the old plan and tethering works.
>> I don't use it as I have zero  need to do it.
>> I'll never sign up for the  new rippoff so-called shared data plans.
>> 
>> At 08:05 PM 8/26/2012, you wrote:
>> Right if you have vzw's new plan it is included however if you are on
>> one of
>> the old plans it is still an add on feature.
>> 
>> 
>> Corey Cook
>> Facebook:
>> corey.coo...@gmail.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of CD
>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>> 
>> I don't know.  Verizon does it with their shared plan.  It's a new thing.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Jenifer
>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>> 
>> Does at&t?
>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:
>> 
>> Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Jenifer
>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:28 PM
>> To: The iPhone List
>> Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can
>> connect my Mack to?  I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere else. Any
>> suggestions?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Jenifer
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Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hello Scott, I think when you say cash cow you have it spot on. I mean, 
let's take texting, it wasn't originally designed for communications 
between users to begin with and it doesn't cost the company more than a 
third of a cent to send out a text, yet they charge $30 a month for 
unlimited? It's because of so many people liking to text that they can 
get away with it. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for companies making 
money, after all, they are a business and in it for the money, but still 
seems a bit steep. Yet people like myself like the offerings and so pay 
for it. So, I guess I can't complain too much since I'm a satisfied 
customer over all. However it wouldn't hurt my feelings if the plans 
were reconsidered.


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On 8/30/2012 5:31 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Raul,

Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from perhaps 4Gb to 
6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge goes up. So, the only way 
these data plans make sense is for people with lots of devices. AT&T really did 
not take into account the families with two or three phones. The $70 for unlimited 
text and voice is not to bad I suppose, although the cost for text is so out of 
line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow for carriers. :)

On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:


Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and texts. 
You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but then you pay for 
each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a 4gb plan with 3 phones, you 
would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40 per phone. So, do the math. 70 + 120 
is 190 plus tax. Now if you take one of their older plans like the 700 minute 
shared minute plan with unlimited text and mobile to any mobile and 3 phones, 
the cost is 60 for the plan, plus 30 for the texting, plus roughly 10 per each 
phone, plus the data on those phones. So, 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3 phones makes 
120. Now add data. Let's say 30 per phone for 3gb each. that's an extra 90 
making it 210. So maybe going with the 4gb plan for those same 3 phones will 
save you 20. However if you have an older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 per 
month on data plans, then switching to the new data shared plan costs more.

Hope this helps.

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On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:

I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the personal
hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I have
it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long run,
but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade through
the AT&T site to understand their shared data information, but finally
just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now.

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Barry mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of CD
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.

I don't know.  Verizon does it with their shared plan.  It's a new thing.

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Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM
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Subject: Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Does at&t?
On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:

Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either.


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Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Hi all.
How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can
connect my Mack to?  I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere else. Any
suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Jenifer

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Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hello Scott. yeah, I think AT&T really dropped the ball with the data 
shared plans. Also, they haven't trained their reps correctly either. I 
had a similar experience as you when calling them to see what's what? I 
finally just looked at the web site and got the prices that way. They at 
least have it laid out in tables and so I was able to make sense of the 
pricing structures. The data plan shared system isn't too confusing 
really once I saw it, but still, better training is in order.


I've always been a happy customer in terms of how I've been treated, 
meaning that I have always gotten a nice rep, patient reps, and have 
never been talked down to. However that doesn't mean that I'll always 
stay with them just because the treat me right either. I have 3 phones 
on my plan, 1 isn't on contract, 1 has about 5 months left, and 
unfortunately 1 just got a new 2 year contract in January when I got my 4S.


So, we'll see what's up in the near future.

Really in the end whether it's Verizon, Sprint, or AT&T, they will all 
find a way to get the most money out of you, however right now Verizon 
is looking rather juicy for the simple reason they aren't allowed to 
charge you for tethering.


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On 8/30/2012 5:20 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Raul,

I really wonder if AT&T just wants to drive customers away because they sure as hell seem intent on 
doing just that. I had a long conversation with AT&T customer service and it was apparent they 
could not even accurately explain the plans. I had to talk to two different reps to get the story. THe 
part that really has me rankled is that when iOS 6 is released, I have read and AT&T confirmed that 
if you wanted to use Face TIme on the 3G network you would have to be covered by one of the shared data 
plans. Now regardless of how often I would use Face Time, I cannot imagine that AT&T can block this 
service. I understand it is their network, but I did not sign a contract that limited me to specific 
protocols etc. either. I am not sure what AT&T's plans are, but they really do seem to have lost 
interest in customer service. So, I for one will not be upgrading and in fact I cannot wait until next 
October when my AT&T contract ends because my hope is the field of opportunity will be broad

er.

I am pretty disappointed in how AT&T has handled the whole shared data plan 
issue. THey really could have capitalized on the opportunity and really made it a 
sweet deal for customers-create a win win situation, but guess that was not their 
goal.

On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:


Hi, there was a recent judgement passed against Verizon that they had to provide 
tethering for free. Whether the other big name cell guys will follow suit is 
anyone's guess. So, right now AT&T still charges for tethering services. Many 
people with jailbroken cell phones use an app called PDA Net and then they can 
tether on their existing data.

On another note, I agree that the new data shared plan that AT&T is so-called 
offering is a joke. It will end up costing us more than what we pay now for our 3 
phones if we switch to it. Unlimited minutes? Big deal. I get that already thanks 
to Google Voice. So, it's not an attractive deal for me. Now, if they only charged 
like $9.99 per extra phone then it would be worth considering, but not right now.

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On 8/26/2012 6:45 PM, Jenifer wrote:

Does at&t?
On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:


Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either.


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Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Hi all.
How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can connect
my Mack to?  I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere else.  Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Jenifer

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Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:

[Paul Ferrara]

I can tell you that the Chase app is accessible. I also use the Citi mobile 
app for paying my credit card; except for a few small things, it is 
reasonably accessible.


Paul
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



Most of pnc virtual account is acceptable

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:



Wow, I wouldn't consider this clutter at all! I'm also interested in
accessible banking apps.

On 29/08/12 12:28, Sandra Heaton wrote:

Hi,

I have just got the NatWest app and so far it looks pretty accessible.
I shall be using it tomorrow to transfer some money between my
accounts.  so I will report again tomorrow if you are interested or,
just drop me a line privately then I won't be cluttering up the list.
Mind you though some guys might be thankful to know about it.

Regards,
Sandra
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- Original Message - From: "Srikanth Kanuri" 


To: "viphone" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



hi all, is any mobile banking app for I phone/IPod accessible? i have
city bank, HSBC, Bank of America, federal, standard chattered Etc. in
my area. your suggestions are highly appreciated

thanks in advance
Srikanth Kanuri.

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Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Sean Paul]

Here's part of the issue going forward though. Currently AT&T doesn't force 
you to choose one of their shared data plans. However my understanding from 
a area manager of AT&T's is that once the iPhone 5 comes out. They're going 
to adopt the same model VZ has. Meaning that if you want the upgrade price 
on a device. They're going to force you to switch in to 1 of these shared 
data plans. So, unless you wanta either pay full price for your devices or 
buy older 1's off of Ebay, etc. Now, I'm not sure about any of you. However, 
I don't have the money to pay full price for a new iPhone 5 when it comes 
out. So, perhaps none  of us will have much of a choice going forward. Or, 
we'll keep using older devices. These are questions we'll have to ask 
ourselves. We'll also have to wait & see if they really adopt this model 
going henceforth.
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Howell" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 05:31
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.


Raul,

Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from perhaps 
4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge goes up. So, the 
only way these data plans make sense is for people with lots of devices. 
AT&T really did not take into account the families with two or three phones. 
The $70 for unlimited text and voice is not to bad I suppose, although the 
cost for text is so out of line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow for 
carriers. :)


On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  
wrote:


Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and 
texts. You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but then 
you pay for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a 4gb plan 
with 3 phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40 per phone. 
So, do the math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take one of their 
older plans like the 700 minute shared minute plan with unlimited text and 
mobile to any mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60 for the plan, plus 30 
for the texting, plus roughly 10 per each phone, plus the data on those 
phones. So, 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3 phones makes 120. Now add data. Let's 
say 30 per phone for 3gb each. that's an extra 90 making it 210. So maybe 
going with the 4gb plan for those same 3 phones will save you 20. However 
if you have an older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 per month on data 
plans, then switching to the new data shared plan costs more.


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On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:

I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the personal
hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I have
it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long run,
but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade through
the AT&T site to understand their shared data information, but finally
just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now.

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Barry From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of CD
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.

I don't know.  Verizon does it with their shared plan.  It's a new thing.

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Behalf

Of Jenifer
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Does at&t?
On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:

Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either.


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Behalf Of Jenifer
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:28 PM
To: The iPhone List
Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Hi all.
How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can
connect my Mack to?  I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere else. Any
suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Jenifer

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Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:

[Paul Ferrara]

All, this wasn't asked, but I mentioned a short time ago about Citi's credit 
card app; the one thing that is not good is the place to look at previous 
transactions just says button button.
These could probably be labeled I suppose, but it is not accessible from 
that standpoint when you download it. Everything else is fine.


Paul
- Original Message - 
From: "Srikanth Kanuri" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



hi all, thanks for your comments. Sandra, please give your feedback on
the same. further how about the accessibility in the apps of American
express cards? their merchant finder Etc.

Thanks
Srikanth


On 8/30/12, David Chittenden  wrote:
National Bank NZ app is mostly accessible. When going through 
transactions,

the title is blank to VO so the transaction must be opened to be read.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 30/08/2012, at 9:08, Brett  wrote:


Hi,.

They certainly can be, if developed well..

For those down under, ANZ GoMoney is fully accessible and has all the
features of Internet banking.

Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 30/08/2012, at 1:29 AM, Srikanth Kanuri  wrote:


hi all, is any mobile banking app for I phone/IPod accessible? i have
city bank, HSBC, Bank of America, federal, standard chattered Etc. in
my area. your suggestions are highly appreciated

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Srikanth Kanuri.

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Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi,

Well I did manage to transfer money between my accounts today although it 
took me a little while to work it out.  You do have to be patient but if you 
just play around a bit before you try to do anything that's what I did and I 
have to say I am pretty chuffed that I managed it.  Its not a bad little 
app.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



Wow, I wouldn't consider this clutter at all! I'm also interested in
accessible banking apps.

On 29/08/12 12:28, Sandra Heaton wrote:

Hi,

I have just got the NatWest app and so far it looks pretty accessible.
I shall be using it tomorrow to transfer some money between my
accounts.  so I will report again tomorrow if you are interested or,
just drop me a line privately then I won't be cluttering up the list.
Mind you though some guys might be thankful to know about it.

Regards,
Sandra
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- Original Message - From: "Srikanth Kanuri" 
To: "viphone" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



hi all, is any mobile banking app for I phone/IPod accessible? i have
city bank, HSBC, Bank of America, federal, standard chattered Etc. in
my area. your suggestions are highly appreciated

thanks in advance
Srikanth Kanuri.

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Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi Chris,

I'm not sure but I might download it just to see.  I do have an account with 
Lloyds as well.  Maybe you might like to have ago yourself.


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- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:


Hello all is the Lloyds TSB app accessible?
Sent from my mac



On 29 Aug 2012, at 18:28, Sandra Heaton  wrote:


Hi,

I have just got the NatWest app and so far it looks pretty accessible.  I 
shall be using it tomorrow to transfer some money between my accounts.  so 
I will report again tomorrow if you are interested or, just drop me a line 
privately then I won't be cluttering up the list.  Mind you though some 
guys might be thankful to know about it.


Regards,
Sandra
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- Original Message - From: "Srikanth Kanuri" 
To: "viphone" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



hi all, is any mobile banking app for I phone/IPod accessible? i have
city bank, HSBC, Bank of America, federal, standard chattered Etc. in
my area. your suggestions are highly appreciated

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Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:

[Sandra Heaton]

Hi Scott,

Thanks for that.  Of course I will keep you posted and I am so glad that I 
am not cluttering up the list.  I am a bit shy really of saying the wrong 
thing sometimes.


I would say though with this app, you do have to think about it a bit, but 
voiceover does work quite nicely with it.  Even though on some of the pages 
it doesn't have marked buttons  you know when it says savings account button 
you just press savings account and it takes you there.  Its well worth 
looking at.  I myself am not a very techy person and I have no sight but I 
have managed to use this app.


regards.
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- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Davert" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



Hi Sandra.
If no one in the current thread is following this conversation, you
may still want to post. Remember, the list archives are searchable, so
what you post now may help someone else further down the road. And, I,
personally, would like to know your thoughts on this app. I don't use
that particular bank, but I work with people all over the country, so
it's good to know if something is or is not accessible.

Thanks,
Scott

On 8/29/12, christopher hallsworth  wrote:

Hello all is the Lloyds TSB app accessible?
Sent from my mac



On 29 Aug 2012, at 18:28, Sandra Heaton  
wrote:



Hi,

I have just got the NatWest app and so far it looks pretty accessible. 
I
shall be using it tomorrow to transfer some money between my accounts. 
so
I will report again tomorrow if you are interested or, just drop me a 
line

privately then I won't be cluttering up the list.  Mind you though some
guys might be thankful to know about it.

Regards,
Sandra
Braille Greeting Cards
www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk

- Original Message - From: "Srikanth Kanuri" 


To: "viphone" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



hi all, is any mobile banking app for I phone/IPod accessible? i have
city bank, HSBC, Bank of America, federal, standard chattered Etc. in
my area. your suggestions are highly appreciated

thanks in advance
Srikanth Kanuri.

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Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Jesus Hernandez]

so let me get this straight even thoe i have the shared data plan from atnt i 
can't use my iPhone as a hot spot yet? just wanted to know.
On Aug 30, 2012, at 6:50 AM, "Sean Paul"  wrote:

> Here's part of the issue going forward though. Currently AT&T doesn't force 
> you to choose one of their shared data plans. However my understanding from a 
> area manager of AT&T's is that once the iPhone 5 comes out. They're going to 
> adopt the same model VZ has. Meaning that if you want the upgrade price on a 
> device. They're going to force you to switch in to 1 of these shared data 
> plans. So, unless you wanta either pay full price for your devices or buy 
> older 1's off of Ebay, etc. Now, I'm not sure about any of you. However, I 
> don't have the money to pay full price for a new iPhone 5 when it comes out. 
> So, perhaps none  of us will have much of a choice going forward. Or, we'll 
> keep using older devices. These are questions we'll have to ask ourselves. 
> We'll also have to wait & see if they really adopt this model going 
> henceforth.
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 05:31
> Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.
> 
> 
> Raul,
> 
> Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from perhaps 
> 4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge goes up. So, the 
> only way these data plans make sense is for people with lots of devices. AT&T 
> really did not take into account the families with two or three phones. The 
> $70 for unlimited text and voice is not to bad I suppose, although the cost 
> for text is so out of line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow for 
> carriers. :)
> 
> On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and texts. 
>> You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but then you pay 
>> for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a 4gb plan with 3 
>> phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40 per phone. So, do the 
>> math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take one of their older plans 
>> like the 700 minute shared minute plan with unlimited text and mobile to any 
>> mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60 for the plan, plus 30 for the texting, 
>> plus roughly 10 per each phone, plus the data on those phones. So, 60 plus 
>> 30 plus 30 for 3 phones makes 120. Now add data. Let's say 30 per phone for 
>> 3gb each. that's an extra 90 making it 210. So maybe going with the 4gb plan 
>> for those same 3 phones will save you 20. However if you have an older plan 
>> like the one paying 15 or 20 per month on data plans, then switching to the 
>> new data shared plan costs more.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> --
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>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>> 
>> On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:
>>> I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the personal
>>> hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I have
>>> it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
>>> Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long run,
>>> but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade through
>>> the AT&T site to understand their shared data information, but finally
>>> just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Kevin Barry >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date sent: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:42:51 -0400
>>> Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>>> 
>>> In theory yes; however I have the old plan and tethering works.
>>> I don't use it as I have zero  need to do it.
>>> I'll never sign up for the  new rippoff so-called shared data plans.
>>> 
>>> At 08:05 PM 8/26/2012, you wrote:
>>> Right if you have vzw's new plan it is included however if you are on
>>> one of
>>> the old plans it is still an add on feature.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Corey Cook
>>> Facebook:
>>> corey.coo...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of CD
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>>> 
>>> I don't know.  Verizon does it with their shared plan.  It's a new thing.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Jenifer
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>>> 
>>> Does at&t?
>>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf 

Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
I've been using the Chase app for some time now and it's worked fine for me.

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: "Sandra Heaton" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



Hi,

I have just got the NatWest app and so far it looks pretty accessible.  I 
shall be using it tomorrow to transfer some money between my accounts.  so 
I will report again tomorrow if you are interested or, just drop me a line 
privately then I won't be cluttering up the list.  Mind you though some 
guys might be thankful to know about it.


Regards,
Sandra
Braille Greeting Cards
www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk

- Original Message - 
From: "Srikanth Kanuri" 

To: "viphone" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



hi all, is any mobile banking app for I phone/IPod accessible? i have
city bank, HSBC, Bank of America, federal, standard chattered Etc. in
my area. your suggestions are highly appreciated

thanks in advance
Srikanth Kanuri.

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RE: editing text, NoteMaster now uses .docx format with Drop Box

[Richard Turner]

Great!  I don't know if he lowered the price, or if it is just on sale, but
that is fantastic.

Thanks,
Richard
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Mannion
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: editing text, NoteMaster now uses .docx format with Drop Box

Yesterday after reading this thread I downloaded the paid vbersion of the
APP and found it to be only $0.99. It is nice that it has the formatting
commands, folders or categories as they want to call them and can synch with
dropbox. Definitely well worth a buck and well worth more than that really.

On 8/29/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Yes, that is exactly how it works.
> Hth,
>
> Richard
>
> On Aug 29, 2012, at 7:30 AM, Marianne Denning 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Okay, I think I will purchase it.  If there is a document on Dropbox 
>> and my student wants to edit it would he download it onto his IPad, 
>> edit it and then sync with Dropbox?  We are using Dropbox as a way 
>> for the student to get work and turn in assignments.  He loves his 
>> IPad and voiceover.
>>
>> On 8/29/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> OK, I spent more time with NoteMaster today.
>>> It creates, edits and reads docx files just fine.
>>>
>>> If you have a keyboard or a braille display, it is easier.
>>>
>>> If you want to just use the touch screen for navigating, you need to 
>>> either read to end, or use the rotor in line mode and flick up and 
>>> down to move line by line.
>>>
>>> Flicking left to right seems to skip the text, or treat it as one 
>>> large chunk, even if you have double hard returns for paragraphs.
>>>
>>> One of the pluses, which I have not mentioned or used, is the 
>>> ability to password a given category.  (He uses the term category 
>>> the same way I think of folders.)
>>>
>>> I cannot get it to sync automatically with Drop Box.  However, the 
>>> sync does not take long.
>>>
>>> I had a book in docx format that seemed to cause errors in syncing, 
>>> so I am going to write the developer to see what the file size limit 
>>> is, because this was a cookbook that is 198 pages in Word.
>>>
>>> Some of the button labeling could be better, but it is easy enough 
>>> to figure them out.
>>>
>>> Also, with Drop Box, it puts the NoteMaster folder under a folder 
>>> called Apps, which is a system recommended by Drop Box.  Meteor 
>>> Notes does the same thing.
>>>
>>> Feel free to ask more questions and I'll try to answer them.
>>>
>>> Later,
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Marianne Denning
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:33 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: editing text
>>>
>>> This sounds very good.  Please keep me up to date.
>>>
>>> On 8/28/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
 Hi,
 Take a look at the latest version of NoteMaster.  There is a lite 
 version to try out, but the paid version is worth while I think.
 He just updated it to sync with DropBox, and the extremely good 
 news is that when it syncs to dropbox, it uses .docx.  That is the 
 Word 2007/2010 version of Word documents.
 The update just came out today, and I have only had a little while 
 to test, but this is looking very good.
 I think we may have a good alternative for editing Word documents.
 I hope to have time at work today to do more with it.
 I don't seem to be getting the automatic syncing to work both 
 directions.
 But, it does not take long to sync.
 The paid version is $4.99, I think.

 Later,
 Richard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:45 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: editing text

 I hope someone can answer this question.  I have a student who is 
 using his IPad in class.  He has an aid who prepares materials for 
 him and he interacts with these documents through dropbox.  Should 
 the documents be saved as a text document or will rich text work?  
 We currently use droptext on the IPad.  Is there a better app that 
 will work
>>> well with voiceover?

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RE: google latitude?

[Richard Turner]

What is Google Latitude? 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:12 PM
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Subject: google latitude?

hi all, is Google latitude accessible?

thanks
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Re: google latitude?

[Srikanth Kanuri]

Google Latitude is a location-aware
mobile app developed by Google as a successor to its earlier SMS-based
service Dodgeball.
Latitude allows a mobile phone user to allow certain people to view
their current location. Via their own
Google Account,
the user's cell phone location is mapped on
Google Maps.
The user can control the accuracy and details of what each of the
other users can see — an exact location can be allowed, or it can be
limited to identifying
the city only. For privacy, it can also be turned off by the user, or
a location can be manually entered. Users have to explicitly opt in to
Latitude,
and may only see the location of those friends who have decided to
share their location with them.

app for IOS:


http://itunes.apple.com/in/app/google-latitude/id306586497?mt=8

On 8/30/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
> What is Google Latitude?
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Srikanth Kanuri
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:12 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: google latitude?
>
> hi all, is Google latitude accessible?
>
> thanks
> Srikanth
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Re: Dictionary by Farlex, Inc.

[JoJo and Clinton]

The dictionary by Farlex, Inc. is a wonderful app.  I love the word games 
that it has.  I like it so much that I thought I would share it.  Here's a 
link to a description of it in the app store.


http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dictionary./id379450383?mt=8

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RE: google latitude?

[Richard Turner]

It shows as free, so have you tried it?

Richard
 

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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: google latitude?

Google Latitude is a location-aware
mobile app developed by Google as a successor to its earlier SMS-based
service Dodgeball.
Latitude allows a mobile phone user to allow certain people to view their
current location. Via their own Google Account, the user's cell phone
location is mapped on Google Maps.
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users can see - an exact location can be allowed, or it can be limited to
identifying the city only. For privacy, it can also be turned off by the
user, or a location can be manually entered. Users have to explicitly opt in
to Latitude, and may only see the location of those friends who have decided
to share their location with them.

app for IOS:


http://itunes.apple.com/in/app/google-latitude/id306586497?mt=8

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> What is Google Latitude?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Srikanth Kanuri
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:12 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: google latitude?
>
> hi all, is Google latitude accessible?
>
> thanks
> Srikanth
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Re: google latitude?

[Srikanth Kanuri]

just started trying it. not fully accessible but fairly ok. we need to
rename each and every friend button as soon as we add them.

On 8/30/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
> It shows as free, so have you tried it?
>
> Richard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Srikanth Kanuri
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: google latitude?
>
> Google Latitude is a location-aware
> mobile app developed by Google as a successor to its earlier SMS-based
> service Dodgeball.
> Latitude allows a mobile phone user to allow certain people to view their
> current location. Via their own Google Account, the user's cell phone
> location is mapped on Google Maps.
> The user can control the accuracy and details of what each of the other
> users can see - an exact location can be allowed, or it can be limited to
> identifying the city only. For privacy, it can also be turned off by the
> user, or a location can be manually entered. Users have to explicitly opt
> in
> to Latitude, and may only see the location of those friends who have
> decided
> to share their location with them.
>
> app for IOS:
>
>
> http://itunes.apple.com/in/app/google-latitude/id306586497?mt=8
>
> On 8/30/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What is Google Latitude?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Srikanth Kanuri
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:12 PM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: google latitude?
>>
>> hi all, is Google latitude accessible?
>>
>> thanks
>> Srikanth
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RE: google latitude?

[Richard Turner]

Sounds interesting.  Please write more about it after you have had time to
experiment.

Thanks,
Richard
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Srikanth Kanuri
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: google latitude?

just started trying it. not fully accessible but fairly ok. we need to
rename each and every friend button as soon as we add them.

On 8/30/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
> It shows as free, so have you tried it?
>
> Richard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Srikanth Kanuri
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: google latitude?
>
> Google Latitude is a location-aware
> mobile app developed by Google as a successor to its earlier SMS-based 
> service Dodgeball.
> Latitude allows a mobile phone user to allow certain people to view 
> their current location. Via their own Google Account, the user's cell 
> phone location is mapped on Google Maps.
> The user can control the accuracy and details of what each of the 
> other users can see - an exact location can be allowed, or it can be 
> limited to identifying the city only. For privacy, it can also be 
> turned off by the user, or a location can be manually entered. Users 
> have to explicitly opt in to Latitude, and may only see the location 
> of those friends who have decided to share their location with them.
>
> app for IOS:
>
>
> http://itunes.apple.com/in/app/google-latitude/id306586497?mt=8
>
> On 8/30/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What is Google Latitude?
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> Behalf Of Srikanth Kanuri
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:12 PM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: google latitude?
>>
>> hi all, is Google latitude accessible?
>>
>> thanks
>> Srikanth
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Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Damashe Thomas]

I would like to point out that the only thing verizon does is forces you to 
give up unlimited data if you choos to use an upgrade. They still off the 
2GB and 5GB data lans for $30 and $50 respectively. So you could go with one 
of those if you weren't interested in the shared data package. It is 
interesting that at&t may adopt this strategy after the release of the new 
iPhone. Currentl as a verizon customer with unlimited data, I am slightly 
envious that at&t customers can upgrade without giving up unlimited data 
with the only restriction being that you can't use facetime over 3G when 
that becomes available.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sean Paul" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.


Here's part of the issue going forward though. Currently AT&T doesn't 
force you to choose one of their shared data plans. However my 
understanding from a area manager of AT&T's is that once the iPhone 5 
comes out. They're going to adopt the same model VZ has. Meaning that if 
you want the upgrade price on a device. They're going to force you to 
switch in to 1 of these shared data plans. So, unless you wanta either pay 
full price for your devices or buy older 1's off of Ebay, etc. Now, I'm 
not sure about any of you. However, I don't have the money to pay full 
price for a new iPhone 5 when it comes out. So, perhaps none  of us will 
have much of a choice going forward. Or, we'll keep using older devices. 
These are questions we'll have to ask ourselves. We'll also have to wait & 
see if they really adopt this model going henceforth.
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Howell" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 05:31
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.


Raul,

Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from 
perhaps 4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge goes 
up. So, the only way these data plans make sense is for people with lots 
of devices. AT&T really did not take into account the families with two or 
three phones. The $70 for unlimited text and voice is not to bad I 
suppose, although the cost for text is so out of line with reality, but 
hey it is a cash-cow for carriers. :)


On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  
wrote:


Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and 
texts. You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but 
then you pay for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a 4gb 
plan with 3 phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40 per 
phone. So, do the math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take one of 
their older plans like the 700 minute shared minute plan with unlimited 
text and mobile to any mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60 for the plan, 
plus 30 for the texting, plus roughly 10 per each phone, plus the data on 
those phones. So, 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3 phones makes 120. Now add 
data. Let's say 30 per phone for 3gb each. that's an extra 90 making it 
210. So maybe going with the 4gb plan for those same 3 phones will save 
you 20. However if you have an older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 
per month on data plans, then switching to the new data shared plan costs 
more.


Hope this helps.

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On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:

I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the personal
hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I have
it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long run,
but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade through
the AT&T site to understand their shared data information, but finally
just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now.

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Barry From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of CD
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.

I don't know.  Verizon does it with their shared plan.  It's a new 
thing.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Jenifer
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Does at&t?
On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:

Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it 
either.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jenifer
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:28 PM
To: The iPhone List
Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Hi all.
How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can
connect my Mack to?  I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere e

Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, considering that Facetime isn't cross platform, I just use Skype. 
Wtih Skype I can use it on wi-fi or cell network. I can talk to users on 
their computers, iPhones, iPods, Androids, or Linux machines. I follow 
the podcasts and tweets from Life Hacker and they also recommend Skype 
over FaceTime for those same reasons.


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Adolfo Hitler confirmed dead May 1, 1945. Osama bin Laden confirmed dead 
May 1, 2011. Weird.

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On 8/30/2012 10:24 AM, Damashe Thomas wrote:

I would like to point out that the only thing verizon does is forces you
to give up unlimited data if you choos to use an upgrade. They still off
the 2GB and 5GB data lans for $30 and $50 respectively. So you could go
with one of those if you weren't interested in the shared data package.
It is interesting that at&t may adopt this strategy after the release of
the new iPhone. Currentl as a verizon customer with unlimited data, I am
slightly envious that at&t customers can upgrade without giving up
unlimited data with the only restriction being that you can't use
facetime over 3G when that becomes available.
- Original Message - From: "Sean Paul" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.



Here's part of the issue going forward though. Currently AT&T doesn't
force you to choose one of their shared data plans. However my
understanding from a area manager of AT&T's is that once the iPhone 5
comes out. They're going to adopt the same model VZ has. Meaning that
if you want the upgrade price on a device. They're going to force you
to switch in to 1 of these shared data plans. So, unless you wanta
either pay full price for your devices or buy older 1's off of Ebay,
etc. Now, I'm not sure about any of you. However, I don't have the
money to pay full price for a new iPhone 5 when it comes out. So,
perhaps none  of us will have much of a choice going forward. Or,
we'll keep using older devices. These are questions we'll have to ask
ourselves. We'll also have to wait & see if they really adopt this
model going henceforth.
- Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 05:31
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.


Raul,

Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from
perhaps 4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge
goes up. So, the only way these data plans make sense is for people
with lots of devices. AT&T really did not take into account the
families with two or three phones. The $70 for unlimited text and
voice is not to bad I suppose, although the cost for text is so out of
line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow for carriers. :)

On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos 
wrote:


Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and
texts. You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but
then you pay for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a
4gb plan with 3 phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40
per phone. So, do the math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take
one of their older plans like the 700 minute shared minute plan with
unlimited text and mobile to any mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60
for the plan, plus 30 for the texting, plus roughly 10 per each
phone, plus the data on those phones. So, 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3
phones makes 120. Now add data. Let's say 30 per phone for 3gb each.
that's an extra 90 making it 210. So maybe going with the 4gb plan
for those same 3 phones will save you 20. However if you have an
older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 per month on data plans, then
switching to the new data shared plan costs more.

Hope this helps.

--
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Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:

I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the personal
hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I have
it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long run,
but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade through
the AT&T site to understand their shared data information, but finally
just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now.

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Barry mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of CD
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.

I don't know.  Verizon does it with their shared plan.  It's a new
thing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Jenifer
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subj

RE: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Scott and Raul,

I am in Canada so I only know what I hear on here and Today in iOS when it
comes to AT&T, but what about all the people who don't want or need a shared
plan and just want 1 iPhone? I am amazed by what AT&T seems to get away
with, $30 for unlimited texting? Really? I am a very light data user, but I
pay $45 here in Canada for unlimited voice minutes and airt time minutes
across all of Canada and then a $10 add-on gives me voice mail, call display
and unlimited texting and that includes international text messages. I
wouldn't be surprised if some day soon large carriers like AT&T, Verizon and
Sprint have to change their act and start dropping prices because of the
competition and customer pressure. After all, some of us here remember how
expensive long distance was back in the 80s and still part of the 90s. It
used to cost $ 2 a minute to call Germany, there were cheaper rates for
certain times of the day etc. Now it doesn't matter when you call and even
from the big providers it's only a few Cents a minute, we are talking about
a 95 or 98% drop in price.

By the way, it does sound as if T-Mobil will be getting the new iPhone in
September which, incidently, will not be called the iPhone 5, at least it is
extremely unlikely that it will be called iPhone 5.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Corey Michael Cook]

the US market seems to be backwards from the rest of the world when it comes to 
cell phones

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Scott and Raul,
> 
> I am in Canada so I only know what I hear on here and Today in iOS when it
> comes to AT&T, but what about all the people who don't want or need a shared
> plan and just want 1 iPhone? I am amazed by what AT&T seems to get away
> with, $30 for unlimited texting? Really? I am a very light data user, but I
> pay $45 here in Canada for unlimited voice minutes and airt time minutes
> across all of Canada and then a $10 add-on gives me voice mail, call display
> and unlimited texting and that includes international text messages. I
> wouldn't be surprised if some day soon large carriers like AT&T, Verizon and
> Sprint have to change their act and start dropping prices because of the
> competition and customer pressure. After all, some of us here remember how
> expensive long distance was back in the 80s and still part of the 90s. It
> used to cost $ 2 a minute to call Germany, there were cheaper rates for
> certain times of the day etc. Now it doesn't matter when you call and even
> from the big providers it's only a few Cents a minute, we are talking about
> a 95 or 98% drop in price.
> 
> By the way, it does sound as if T-Mobil will be getting the new iPhone in
> September which, incidently, will not be called the iPhone 5, at least it is
> extremely unlikely that it will be called iPhone 5.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: App to monitor flights

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sandy,

 

The Kayak Mobile app allows you to check on flight status for flights up to
3 days in advance. The app, however, is not free and also allows you to book
flights, cars, hotels, it has a My Trips section where you can add
everything to do with a trip, e.g. flights, cars, hotels and it will all be
put in chronological order, there is a Check List and many other features. I
quite like the app, ut I also know there are Flight Trackers out there which
do just that and there are probably some free ones. You might want to search
the archive, this has come up before and also take a look at
www.Appleviss.com and see if any of them are reviewed there.

 

 

Good luck,

Sieghard

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Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:

[Chris]

Yes Sandra, think I will and keep you posted. Thanks!


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On 30/08/2012 12:20, Sandra Heaton wrote:



Hi Chris,

I'm not sure but I might download it just to see.  I do have an account
with Lloyds as well.  Maybe you might like to have ago yourself.

Regards,
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- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth"

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:


Hello all is the Lloyds TSB app accessible?
Sent from my mac



On 29 Aug 2012, at 18:28, Sandra Heaton  wrote:


Hi,

I have just got the NatWest app and so far it looks pretty
accessible.  I shall be using it tomorrow to transfer some money
between my accounts.  so I will report again tomorrow if you are
interested or, just drop me a line privately then I won't be
cluttering up the list.  Mind you though some guys might be thankful
to know about it.

Regards,
Sandra
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- Original Message - From: "Srikanth Kanuri" 
To: "viphone" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



hi all, is any mobile banking app for I phone/IPod accessible? i have
city bank, HSBC, Bank of America, federal, standard chattered Etc. in
my area. your suggestions are highly appreciated

thanks in advance
Srikanth Kanuri.

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Re: Dictionary by Farlex, Inc.

[Jennie Facer]

Thank you so much for this. I was looking for a medical dictionary.

Jenn

Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:

> The dictionary by Farlex, Inc. is a wonderful app.  I love the word games 
> that it has.  I like it so much that I thought I would share it.  Here's a 
> link to a description of it in the app store.
> 
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dictionary./id379450383?mt=8
> 
> JoJo
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Re: clock on the ipad2

[Chris]

There is no clock app on the iPad. There is an iPad only app though that 
has the same if not similar interface to the clock app on the iPhone and 
iPod Touch. Can't remember the name though.



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On 30/08/2012 03:14, Sagar Verma wrote:

hello foeks hope u all r doing grate as the subject says how can i get
the clock ap in my ipad2? please help as soon as possible



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Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Scott Howell]

Raul,

You know I have to agree that the customer service (other than the lack of 
training on some of this) has been pretty good. The site was a little difficult 
to navigate with Safari for some reason and it seemed to have something to do 
with the table layout. In any case overall I have been happy with the service, 
but I am disappointed that AT&T seems a little to intent on making things tough 
for customers who have had unlimited data plans by not allowing them to have 
access to even tethering if you were willing to pay for it. Although I am 
surprised the FCC has not told AT&T they cannot charge for tethering yet. Yes, 
time will tell and the future will be interesting. Hey once everyone has a 
phone on some form of the LTE network it may really change the game.

On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

> Hello Scott. yeah, I think AT&T really dropped the ball with the data shared 
> plans. Also, they haven't trained their reps correctly either. I had a 
> similar experience as you when calling them to see what's what? I finally 
> just looked at the web site and got the prices that way. They at least have 
> it laid out in tables and so I was able to make sense of the pricing 
> structures. The data plan shared system isn't too confusing really once I saw 
> it, but still, better training is in order.
> 
> I've always been a happy customer in terms of how I've been treated, meaning 
> that I have always gotten a nice rep, patient reps, and have never been 
> talked down to. However that doesn't mean that I'll always stay with them 
> just because the treat me right either. I have 3 phones on my plan, 1 isn't 
> on contract, 1 has about 5 months left, and unfortunately 1 just got a new 2 
> year contract in January when I got my 4S.
> 
> So, we'll see what's up in the near future.
> 
> Really in the end whether it's Verizon, Sprint, or AT&T, they will all find a 
> way to get the most money out of you, however right now Verizon is looking 
> rather juicy for the simple reason they aren't allowed to charge you for 
> tethering.
> 
> --
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> Texting on your smartphone in your smart car still makes you an idiot.
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> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
> 
> On 8/30/2012 5:20 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> Raul,
>> 
>> I really wonder if AT&T just wants to drive customers away because they sure 
>> as hell seem intent on doing just that. I had a long conversation with AT&T 
>> customer service and it was apparent they could not even accurately explain 
>> the plans. I had to talk to two different reps to get the story. THe part 
>> that really has me rankled is that when iOS 6 is released, I have read and 
>> AT&T confirmed that if you wanted to use Face TIme on the 3G network you 
>> would have to be covered by one of the shared data plans. Now regardless of 
>> how often I would use Face Time, I cannot imagine that AT&T can block this 
>> service. I understand it is their network, but I did not sign a contract 
>> that limited me to specific protocols etc. either. I am not sure what AT&T's 
>> plans are, but they really do seem to have lost interest in customer 
>> service. So, I for one will not be upgrading and in fact I cannot wait until 
>> next October when my AT&T contract ends because my hope is the field of 
>> opportunity will be broad
> er.
>> I am pretty disappointed in how AT&T has handled the whole shared data plan 
>> issue. THey really could have capitalized on the opportunity and really made 
>> it a sweet deal for customers-create a win win situation, but guess that was 
>> not their goal.
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, there was a recent judgement passed against Verizon that they had to 
>>> provide tethering for free. Whether the other big name cell guys will 
>>> follow suit is anyone's guess. So, right now AT&T still charges for 
>>> tethering services. Many people with jailbroken cell phones use an app 
>>> called PDA Net and then they can tether on their existing data.
>>> 
>>> On another note, I agree that the new data shared plan that AT&T is 
>>> so-called offering is a joke. It will end up costing us more than what we 
>>> pay now for our 3 phones if we switch to it. Unlimited minutes? Big deal. I 
>>> get that already thanks to Google Voice. So, it's not an attractive deal 
>>> for me. Now, if they only charged like $9.99 per extra phone then it would 
>>> be worth considering, but not right now.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>> I'm such a klutz! I just tripped over my cordless phone.
>>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>>> 
>>> On 8/26/2012 6:45 PM, Jenifer wrote:
 Does at&t?
 On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:
 
> Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either.
> 
> 
> -Original Messa

Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Scott Howell]

Hey totally agree and I have nothing against carriers making money. I do 
however think I could create plans that would make money and make subscribers 
happy. There is a balance and consumers and carriers just haven't found it 
quite yet. :)

On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:36 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

> Hello Scott, I think when you say cash cow you have it spot on. I mean, let's 
> take texting, it wasn't originally designed for communications between users 
> to begin with and it doesn't cost the company more than a third of a cent to 
> send out a text, yet they charge $30 a month for unlimited? It's because of 
> so many people liking to text that they can get away with it. Don't get me 
> wrong, I'm all for companies making money, after all, they are a business and 
> in it for the money, but still seems a bit steep. Yet people like myself like 
> the offerings and so pay for it. So, I guess I can't complain too much since 
> I'm a satisfied customer over all. However it wouldn't hurt my feelings if 
> the plans were reconsidered.
> 
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> "The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once." - E. 
> Joseph Cossman
> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
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> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
> 
> On 8/30/2012 5:31 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> Raul,
>> 
>> Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from perhaps 
>> 4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge goes up. So, the 
>> only way these data plans make sense is for people with lots of devices. 
>> AT&T really did not take into account the families with two or three phones. 
>> The $70 for unlimited text and voice is not to bad I suppose, although the 
>> cost for text is so out of line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow for 
>> carriers. :)
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and 
>>> texts. You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but then 
>>> you pay for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a 4gb plan 
>>> with 3 phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40 per phone. So, 
>>> do the math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take one of their older 
>>> plans like the 700 minute shared minute plan with unlimited text and mobile 
>>> to any mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60 for the plan, plus 30 for the 
>>> texting, plus roughly 10 per each phone, plus the data on those phones. So, 
>>> 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3 phones makes 120. Now add data. Let's say 30 per 
>>> phone for 3gb each. that's an extra 90 making it 210. So maybe going with 
>>> the 4gb plan for those same 3 phones will save you 20. However if you have 
>>> an older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 per month on data plans, then 
>>> switching to the new data shared plan costs more.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>>> 
>>> On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:
 I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the personal
 hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I have
 it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
 Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long run,
 but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade through
 the AT&T site to understand their shared data information, but finally
 just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Barry >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:42:51 -0400
 Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.
 
 In theory yes; however I have the old plan and tethering works.
 I don't use it as I have zero  need to do it.
 I'll never sign up for the  new rippoff so-called shared data plans.
 
 At 08:05 PM 8/26/2012, you wrote:
 Right if you have vzw's new plan it is included however if you are on
 one of
 the old plans it is still an add on feature.
 
 
 Corey Cook
 Facebook:
 corey.coo...@gmail.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of CD
 Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.
 
 I don't know.  Verizon does it with their shared plan.  It's a new thing.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Jenifer
 Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.
 
 Does at&t?
 On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:
 
 Verizon has tethering free but 

Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Scott Howell]

Raul, true, but it is the principle of the matter. However, again you are 
correct that Skype is a viable cross-platform option.

On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

> Hi, considering that Facetime isn't cross platform, I just use Skype. Wtih 
> Skype I can use it on wi-fi or cell network. I can talk to users on their 
> computers, iPhones, iPods, Androids, or Linux machines. I follow the podcasts 
> and tweets from Life Hacker and they also recommend Skype over FaceTime for 
> those same reasons.
> 
> --
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> Adolfo Hitler confirmed dead May 1, 1945. Osama bin Laden confirmed dead May 
> 1, 2011. Weird.
> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
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> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
> 
> On 8/30/2012 10:24 AM, Damashe Thomas wrote:
>> I would like to point out that the only thing verizon does is forces you
>> to give up unlimited data if you choos to use an upgrade. They still off
>> the 2GB and 5GB data lans for $30 and $50 respectively. So you could go
>> with one of those if you weren't interested in the shared data package.
>> It is interesting that at&t may adopt this strategy after the release of
>> the new iPhone. Currentl as a verizon customer with unlimited data, I am
>> slightly envious that at&t customers can upgrade without giving up
>> unlimited data with the only restriction being that you can't use
>> facetime over 3G when that becomes available.
>> - Original Message - From: "Sean Paul" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>> 
>> 
>>> Here's part of the issue going forward though. Currently AT&T doesn't
>>> force you to choose one of their shared data plans. However my
>>> understanding from a area manager of AT&T's is that once the iPhone 5
>>> comes out. They're going to adopt the same model VZ has. Meaning that
>>> if you want the upgrade price on a device. They're going to force you
>>> to switch in to 1 of these shared data plans. So, unless you wanta
>>> either pay full price for your devices or buy older 1's off of Ebay,
>>> etc. Now, I'm not sure about any of you. However, I don't have the
>>> money to pay full price for a new iPhone 5 when it comes out. So,
>>> perhaps none  of us will have much of a choice going forward. Or,
>>> we'll keep using older devices. These are questions we'll have to ask
>>> ourselves. We'll also have to wait & see if they really adopt this
>>> model going henceforth.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 05:31
>>> Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Raul,
>>> 
>>> Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from
>>> perhaps 4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge
>>> goes up. So, the only way these data plans make sense is for people
>>> with lots of devices. AT&T really did not take into account the
>>> families with two or three phones. The $70 for unlimited text and
>>> voice is not to bad I suppose, although the cost for text is so out of
>>> line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow for carriers. :)
>>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and
 texts. You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but
 then you pay for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a
 4gb plan with 3 phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40
 per phone. So, do the math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take
 one of their older plans like the 700 minute shared minute plan with
 unlimited text and mobile to any mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60
 for the plan, plus 30 for the texting, plus roughly 10 per each
 phone, plus the data on those phones. So, 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3
 phones makes 120. Now add data. Let's say 30 per phone for 3gb each.
 that's an extra 90 making it 210. So maybe going with the 4gb plan
 for those same 3 phones will save you 20. However if you have an
 older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 per month on data plans, then
 switching to the new data shared plan costs more.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
 
 On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:
> I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the personal
> hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I have
> it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
> Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long run,
> but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade through
> the AT&T site to understand their shared data information

Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Scott Howell]

Naa, your kidding right? :) Yes, the U.S. market is still pretty backward in 
many ways. I may be all wrong on this, but I think part of it has to do with 
the fact that the carriers operate on different technologies, at least the 
three largest carriers. I think as the playing field becomes more level the 
offerings and restrictions will change. In other words as customers gain more 
flexibility they gain more power and the carriers will have to work to keep and 
gain customers. For now the technological differences between GSM, CDMA, and 
even the differences between these two technologies helps the carriers. Then 
again what do I know.

On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Corey Michael Cook  wrote:

> the US market seems to be backwards from the rest of the world when it comes 
> to cell phones
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Tweet list basic help

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hello, 

Could anyone help me find the help section for tweet list?. 
Would love to learn more about all it's settings etc. 

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Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:

[Sandra Heaton]

You're welcome.
Sandra
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- Original Message - 
From: "Chris" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



Yes Sandra, think I will and keep you posted. Thanks!


Sent from my Windows laptop.

On 30/08/2012 12:20, Sandra Heaton wrote:



Hi Chris,

I'm not sure but I might download it just to see.  I do have an account
with Lloyds as well.  Maybe you might like to have ago yourself.

Regards,
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- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth"

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:


Hello all is the Lloyds TSB app accessible?
Sent from my mac



On 29 Aug 2012, at 18:28, Sandra Heaton  
wrote:



Hi,

I have just got the NatWest app and so far it looks pretty
accessible.  I shall be using it tomorrow to transfer some money
between my accounts.  so I will report again tomorrow if you are
interested or, just drop me a line privately then I won't be
cluttering up the list.  Mind you though some guys might be thankful
to know about it.

Regards,
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- Original Message - From: "Srikanth Kanuri" 


To: "viphone" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: accessibility of mobile banking apps on IOS:



hi all, is any mobile banking app for I phone/IPod accessible? i have
city bank, HSBC, Bank of America, federal, standard chattered Etc. in
my area. your suggestions are highly appreciated

thanks in advance
Srikanth Kanuri.

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Re: Tweet list basic help

[jeremy]

Hello Ioana. I checked throughout tweetlist and also their page and 
couldn't locate any sort of help. I figured it'd be located in the 
settings area of the app, settings and help it's called but wasn't able 
to find anything describing what the settings actually do. Hopefully 
though, someone may be able to help out on describing the settings. What 
sorta of info are you searching for, and I'll do my best to answer what 
I know. I don't personally use a lot of the added on features of 
twitter, photos and such, but the rest I may can explain.


Take it easy.
On 8/30/2012 1:12 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:


Hello,

Could anyone help me find the help section for tweet list?.
Would love to learn more about all it's settings etc.

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LookTel Recognizer Version 1.2 Released

[Cara Quinn]

Hi All, Recognizer Version 1.2 is out!

Here's the linkie and then the description.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/looktel-recognizer/id501088555?mt=8

Smiles,

Cara :)
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identify cans, packages, ID or credit cards, DVDs, and similar items. Users can 
store images of objects in a library or database, and then simply point the 
iPhone's camera at an object and the phone will recognize and describe the item 
instantly. A barcode scanner is also included to provide additional labeling 
help. 

LookTel Recognizer is powered by an evolution of LookTel's patented and 
proprietary object recognition technology featured in LookTel's "Money Reader", 
an app that has helped thousands of users with visual impairments or blindness 
to instantly identify and count bills. There's no need to hold the camera still 
or capture a photo and wait for a result – recognition happens instantly, and 
in real-time. Additionally, the app does not require an active internet 
connection, which means it can be used at any location, anytime. 

Recognizer allows users to backup and export their created databases via 
E-Mail, enabling them to restore a database from lost or replaced devices, 
share it with other members of the community. 

Please note that users with severe visual impairments or blindness will require 
sighted assistance to initially create the image library. The image library 
must be setup before LookTel Recognizer can be used to identify objects. 

How to use Recognizer: 
Once the app is downloaded on your iOS device, you must create an image library 
before you can start recognizing items. Creating the library is easy, and can 
be fun, especially if you have a friend or family member who is a shutterbug. 
While it may seem to take a lot of time, it takes far less than most people 
imagine to create an excellent library of images. Once the library exists, less 
and less time is required of a sighted person, as you will find Recognizer can 
already identify most items that are used daily reliably and accurately every 
time.

What's New in this Version
German and Spanish localization 
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Improved light control 
Bug Fixes 

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App Store should have the updated version soon -was- LookTel Recognizer Version 1.2 Released

[Cara Quinn]

Hi again All, just wanted to let you know to keep trying if the latest 
Recognizer update isn't showing for you in the App Store.

the amount of time it takes the App Store to post updated versions may vary.

Thank you!

Cara :)
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store images of objects in a library or database, and then simply point the 
iPhone's camera at an object and the phone will recognize and describe the item 
instantly. A barcode scanner is also included to provide additional labeling 
help. 

LookTel Recognizer is powered by an evolution of LookTel's patented and 
proprietary object recognition technology featured in LookTel's "Money Reader", 
an app that has helped thousands of users with visual impairments or blindness 
to instantly identify and count bills. There's no need to hold the camera still 
or capture a photo and wait for a result – recognition happens instantly, and 
in real-time. Additionally, the app does not require an active internet 
connection, which means it can be used at any location, anytime. 

Recognizer allows users to backup and export their created databases via 
E-Mail, enabling them to restore a database from lost or replaced devices, 
share it with other members of the community. 

Please note that users with severe visual impairments or blindness will require 
sighted assistance to initially create the image library. The image library 
must be setup before LookTel Recognizer can be used to identify objects. 

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before you can start recognizing items. Creating the library is easy, and can 
be fun, especially if you have a friend or family member who is a shutterbug. 
While it may seem to take a lot of time, it takes far less than most people 
imagine to create an excellent library of images. Once the library exists, less 
and less time is required of a sighted person, as you will find Recognizer can 
already identify most items that are used daily reliably and accurately every 
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Re: Syncking guidance

[Ioana Gandrabur]

You set the settins in itunes mainly for what sincs with your pc. I would avoid 
syncing things with iCloud and pc like contacts because you might get 
duplicates.

GOod luck.

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On Aug 29, 2012, at 8:46 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> When I set up my iPodTouch, I really didn’t know what I was doing. I’m just a 
> little beyond that now.
> 
> When I set it up, I think I pretty much just checked everything should be 
> syncked every time. This was in iTunes on my PC, and set up my iPodTouch by 
> connecting it to the PC. I believe iCloud was also set up for syncking.
> 
> Now that I understand a little more, I don’t want everything from my 
> iPodTouch syncked always to my PC or iCloud. For example, I want to manually 
> place music from my PC into my iTunes library and transfer the music to my 
> iPodtouch, and I don’t want the music stored on iCloud.
> 
> My question is if I change settings on my iPodTouch, do those become the 
> driver of all settings, and the settings in iCloud and the settings in iTunes 
> on my PC will be changed accordingly? Or, is either the iTunes on my PC or 
> the iCloud the synck master?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any guidance. Keith
> 
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iTunes help needed -- access privileges denied

[Kimber Gardner]

Hi All,

I bought some music on my iPhone today and when I tried to sync with
my laptop a strange thing happened. The sync seemed to be going okay,
but then I got a message that the library could not be saved because
of an access privilege error. So I clicked okay then rebooted the
laptop.

When I restarted iTunes and plugged the iPhone in I was able to sync
without that error. But the weird thing is that although all the songs
I purchased appear to be on both the phone and the laptop, the
playlist I created which contains the new songs is not. The playlist
is still on the phone but for whatever reason it will not sync back to
the laptop.

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Sean Paul]

I guess that I didn't realize that VZ still offered those plans. I'm sure 
that AT&T will also keep some sort of plans similar to those but force those 
of us who still have our unlimited data to choose either 1 of those plans or 
a shared data plan. Whilst I don't like loosing my unlimited data. I'm not 
going to throw up my hands & scream & shout. As I'm having to pay Comcast 
each month for their internet which I use at home. So, I'll turn on YFi & 
just use it whilst at home & save my data for when I'm mobile.
- Original Message - 
From: "Damashe Thomas" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:24
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.


I would like to point out that the only thing verizon does is forces you to 
give up unlimited data if you choos to use an upgrade. They still off the 
2GB and 5GB data lans for $30 and $50 respectively. So you could go with 
one of those if you weren't interested in the shared data package. It is 
interesting that at&t may adopt this strategy after the release of the new 
iPhone. Currentl as a verizon customer with unlimited data, I am slightly 
envious that at&t customers can upgrade without giving up unlimited data 
with the only restriction being that you can't use facetime over 3G when 
that becomes available.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sean Paul" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.


Here's part of the issue going forward though. Currently AT&T doesn't 
force you to choose one of their shared data plans. However my 
understanding from a area manager of AT&T's is that once the iPhone 5 
comes out. They're going to adopt the same model VZ has. Meaning that if 
you want the upgrade price on a device. They're going to force you to 
switch in to 1 of these shared data plans. So, unless you wanta either 
pay full price for your devices or buy older 1's off of Ebay, etc. Now, 
I'm not sure about any of you. However, I don't have the money to pay 
full price for a new iPhone 5 when it comes out. So, perhaps none  of us 
will have much of a choice going forward. Or, we'll keep using older 
devices. These are questions we'll have to ask ourselves. We'll also have 
to wait & see if they really adopt this model going henceforth.
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Howell" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 05:31
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.


Raul,

Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from 
perhaps 4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge goes 
up. So, the only way these data plans make sense is for people with lots 
of devices. AT&T really did not take into account the families with two 
or three phones. The $70 for unlimited text and voice is not to bad I 
suppose, although the cost for text is so out of line with reality, but 
hey it is a cash-cow for carriers. :)


On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  
wrote:


Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and 
texts. You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but 
then you pay for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a 4gb 
plan with 3 phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40 per 
phone. So, do the math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take one of 
their older plans like the 700 minute shared minute plan with unlimited 
text and mobile to any mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60 for the plan, 
plus 30 for the texting, plus roughly 10 per each phone, plus the data 
on those phones. So, 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3 phones makes 120. Now add 
data. Let's say 30 per phone for 3gb each. that's an extra 90 making it 
210. So maybe going with the 4gb plan for those same 3 phones will save 
you 20. However if you have an older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 
per month on data plans, then switching to the new data shared plan 
costs more.


Hope this helps.

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On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:

I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the personal
hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I have
it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long run,
but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade through
the AT&T site to understand their shared data information, but finally
just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now.

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Barry From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of CD
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.

I don't know.  Verizon does it with their shared plan.  It's a new 
thing.


-Or

Re: Tweet list basic help

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Thanks for your offer to help.

For now I am curious about the buttons that appear when you try to compose a 
tweet: hashtags,users etc.

I am surprised it is so hard to find help for the app.

THanks again,

Ioana  


Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
stores.

On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:37 PM, jeremy  wrote:

> Hello Ioana. I checked throughout tweetlist and also their page and couldn't 
> locate any sort of help. I figured it'd be located in the settings area of 
> the app, settings and help it's called but wasn't able to find anything 
> describing what the settings actually do. Hopefully though, someone may be 
> able to help out on describing the settings. What sorta of info are you 
> searching for, and I'll do my best to answer what I know. I don't personally 
> use a lot of the added on features of twitter, photos and such, but the rest 
> I may can explain.
> 
> Take it easy.
> On 8/30/2012 1:12 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Could anyone help me find the help section for tweet list?.
>> Would love to learn more about all it's settings etc.
>> 
>> Thanks, Ioana
>> 
>> Typed with Fleksy
>> reply://igandra...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
>> stores.
>> Sent from my phone
>> 
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Re: Tweet list basic help

[jeremy]

Hey Ioana.
This is what I came up with, so forgive me if it's not completely 
accurate. It seems that the first two buttons, hashtag and username are 
used to insert the associated mark into your tweet. As you may already 
know, both the # and @ characters are used for different things in a 
tweet. First, you use the hash sign to point out a word or phrase, and 
if this hashtag gets repeated enough, you can actually get a trend 
going. Not sure what this is used for, aside from trending topics, but, 
there ya go. The second, the att sign is used before a user's name to 
send tweets to them. This may only be for retweeting and replying, not 
so sure. Anyways, I'd first assumed you could press the username button 
and type the first letter of there username to have a list generated 
from your followers to choose from, but that didn't work. Also, if you 
wanted, you could also generate these marks straight from the on-screen 
keyboard to. the third button, options, will pull up an area, giving you 
access to your camera, for taking a picture I assume, your photo library 
for pictures already on the phone, and an option to shorten a URL. You 
will also see a now playing button, which I assume sends a tweet of your 
current media playing in the music app. The usernames button should 
bring up a list of followers which you should be able to click to have 
their name placed in the edit box. Lastly, the geotag button, I think, 
inserts information on your location, but I don't know for sure. To get 
back out of this area, press the keyboard for the on-screen keyboard to 
pop back up on the screen.

Hope this helps.
Take care.

On 8/30/2012 2:38 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

Thanks for your offer to help.

For now I am curious about the buttons that appear when you try to compose a 
tweet: hashtags,users etc.

I am surprised it is so hard to find help for the app.

THanks again,

Ioana


Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
stores.

On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:37 PM, jeremy  wrote:


Hello Ioana. I checked throughout tweetlist and also their page and couldn't 
locate any sort of help. I figured it'd be located in the settings area of the 
app, settings and help it's called but wasn't able to find anything describing 
what the settings actually do. Hopefully though, someone may be able to help 
out on describing the settings. What sorta of info are you searching for, and 
I'll do my best to answer what I know. I don't personally use a lot of the 
added on features of twitter, photos and such, but the rest I may can explain.

Take it easy.
On 8/30/2012 1:12 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

Hello,

Could anyone help me find the help section for tweet list?.
Would love to learn more about all it's settings etc.

Thanks, Ioana

Typed with Fleksy
reply://igandra...@gmail.com



Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
stores.
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Re: App to monitor flights

[Chuck Dean]

flight view free works for me.
Here is a link:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/flightview-free-real-time/id399057337?mt=8

Chuck
 


On Thursday, August 30, 2012 4:27:03 AM UTC-7, Sandra E. Finley wrote:
>
> Has anyone had experience with any of the apps that can monitor airline 
> flights? If so, which do you find readily usable? Thanks.
>
>  
>
> Sandy 
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Re: Dictionary by Farlex, Inc.

[Suzanne Wilson]

JoJo,

How do you download the offline dictionary?

Suzanne

- Original Message - 
From: "JoJo and Clinton" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Dictionary by Farlex, Inc.


The dictionary by Farlex, Inc. is a wonderful app.  I love the word games 
that it has.  I like it so much that I thought I would share it.  Here's a 
link to a description of it in the app store.


http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dictionary./id379450383?mt=8

JoJo

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AudioBooks.com

[Joe]

Sorry if this has already been shared, but the new AudioBooks.com app lets
you listen to unlimited books on iOS for a flat monthly fee. Thought some
here would appreciate the news.

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Re: LookTel Recognizer Version 1.2 Released

[Mark BurningHawk]

Hey, could you use Recognizer to identify which pool ball you were looking at 
on a pool table?  That could be kinda neat.

Mark BurningHawk
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Re: Tweet list basic help

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, this sounds like you might be looking for help on Twitter, not 
Tweetlist. The reason I say this is because you asked what buttons for 
hash tag and users. A person who knows Twitter, will know what these are 
when they appear in any app, not just TweetList.


Regarding TweetList specifically, they have made it super voice over 
friendly. You can double-tap, double-tap and hold, and triple-tap on a 
tweet to get many different options on what to do. Now, the things to do 
are twitter based, and twitter specific and if you know what these 
things are, then they will make sense. For example a hash tag is the 
number sign symbol which is placed before a word which you want to be 
easily searched. If I post a tweet about an accessible app for iOS I 
might put #ios and #a11y and #blind as part of my tweet so that people 
looking for these can find my tweet easier. A user name is the at sign 
before someone's twitter name. This is done if you want to mention that 
person. So, if you write the tweet I am having lunch with @rau47 today. 
Then I would see it because you used the at sign in front of my twitter 
username rau47.


I hope this helps you get started.

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On 8/30/2012 3:38 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

Thanks for your offer to help.

For now I am curious about the buttons that appear when you try to
compose a tweet: hashtags,users etc.

I am surprised it is so hard to find help for the app.

THanks again,

Ioana


Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com
 on iTunes and most online stores.

On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:37 PM, jeremy mailto:icu8...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello Ioana. I checked throughout tweetlist and also their page and
couldn't locate any sort of help. I figured it'd be located in the
settings area of the app, settings and help it's called but wasn't
able to find anything describing what the settings actually do.
Hopefully though, someone may be able to help out on describing the
settings. What sorta of info are you searching for, and I'll do my
best to answer what I know. I don't personally use a lot of the added
on features of twitter, photos and such, but the rest I may can explain.

Take it easy.
On 8/30/2012 1:12 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:


Hello,

Could anyone help me find the help section for tweet list?.
Would love to learn more about all it's settings etc.

Thanks, Ioana

Typed with Fleksy
reply://igandra...@gmail.com



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Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hello Scott. Completely agreed. AT&T nor any other provider should have 
the right to tell you what programs, protocols, ETC you can use on your 
data plan. After all, data is data. Sure, they could try to justify it 
by saying that FT uses more than other stuff, but then, why allow Skype? 
It doesn't make sense and just looks like another ploy to make yet more 
money. They probably would filter out Skype if they figured that a lot 
of people knew about it. However to the grandma who just got an iPhone 
for her 80th birthday, she will probably see FT first instead of Skype. 
I would venture that this is the reason AT&T targeted FT instead of Skype.


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On 8/30/2012 12:48 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Raul, true, but it is the principle of the matter. However, again you are 
correct that Skype is a viable cross-platform option.

On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:


Hi, considering that Facetime isn't cross platform, I just use Skype. Wtih 
Skype I can use it on wi-fi or cell network. I can talk to users on their 
computers, iPhones, iPods, Androids, or Linux machines. I follow the podcasts 
and tweets from Life Hacker and they also recommend Skype over FaceTime for 
those same reasons.

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2011. Weird.
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On 8/30/2012 10:24 AM, Damashe Thomas wrote:

I would like to point out that the only thing verizon does is forces you
to give up unlimited data if you choos to use an upgrade. They still off
the 2GB and 5GB data lans for $30 and $50 respectively. So you could go
with one of those if you weren't interested in the shared data package.
It is interesting that at&t may adopt this strategy after the release of
the new iPhone. Currentl as a verizon customer with unlimited data, I am
slightly envious that at&t customers can upgrade without giving up
unlimited data with the only restriction being that you can't use
facetime over 3G when that becomes available.
- Original Message - From: "Sean Paul" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.



Here's part of the issue going forward though. Currently AT&T doesn't
force you to choose one of their shared data plans. However my
understanding from a area manager of AT&T's is that once the iPhone 5
comes out. They're going to adopt the same model VZ has. Meaning that
if you want the upgrade price on a device. They're going to force you
to switch in to 1 of these shared data plans. So, unless you wanta
either pay full price for your devices or buy older 1's off of Ebay,
etc. Now, I'm not sure about any of you. However, I don't have the
money to pay full price for a new iPhone 5 when it comes out. So,
perhaps none  of us will have much of a choice going forward. Or,
we'll keep using older devices. These are questions we'll have to ask
ourselves. We'll also have to wait & see if they really adopt this
model going henceforth.
- Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 05:31
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.


Raul,

Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from
perhaps 4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge
goes up. So, the only way these data plans make sense is for people
with lots of devices. AT&T really did not take into account the
families with two or three phones. The $70 for unlimited text and
voice is not to bad I suppose, although the cost for text is so out of
line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow for carriers. :)

On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos 
wrote:


Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and
texts. You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but
then you pay for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a
4gb plan with 3 phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40
per phone. So, do the math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take
one of their older plans like the 700 minute shared minute plan with
unlimited text and mobile to any mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60
for the plan, plus 30 for the texting, plus roughly 10 per each
phone, plus the data on those phones. So, 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3
phones makes 120. Now add data. Let's say 30 per phone for 3gb each.
that's an extra 90 making it 210. So maybe going with the 4gb plan
for those same 3 phones will save you 20. However if you have an
older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 per month on data plans, then
switching to the new data share

RE: Tweet list basic help

[Regina Alvarado]

Thank you Raul.  I too just started working with tweetlist although have not
written a tweet but just read them.  I wondered what the number sign meant
and some of the other signs.  Do people who use twitter place these symbols
in their tweets or do they automatically pop up? 
>From a baby tweeter

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tweet list basic help

Hi, this sounds like you might be looking for help on Twitter, not 
Tweetlist. The reason I say this is because you asked what buttons for 
hash tag and users. A person who knows Twitter, will know what these are 
when they appear in any app, not just TweetList.

Regarding TweetList specifically, they have made it super voice over 
friendly. You can double-tap, double-tap and hold, and triple-tap on a 
tweet to get many different options on what to do. Now, the things to do 
are twitter based, and twitter specific and if you know what these 
things are, then they will make sense. For example a hash tag is the 
number sign symbol which is placed before a word which you want to be 
easily searched. If I post a tweet about an accessible app for iOS I 
might put #ios and #a11y and #blind as part of my tweet so that people 
looking for these can find my tweet easier. A user name is the at sign 
before someone's twitter name. This is done if you want to mention that 
person. So, if you write the tweet I am having lunch with @rau47 today. 
Then I would see it because you used the at sign in front of my twitter 
username rau47.

I hope this helps you get started.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes 
on. - Robert Frost
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
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On 8/30/2012 3:38 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
> Thanks for your offer to help.
>
> For now I am curious about the buttons that appear when you try to
> compose a tweet: hashtags,users etc.
>
> I am surprised it is so hard to find help for the app.
>
> THanks again,
>
> Ioana
>
>
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com
>  on iTunes and most online stores.
>
> On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:37 PM, jeremy  > wrote:
>
>> Hello Ioana. I checked throughout tweetlist and also their page and
>> couldn't locate any sort of help. I figured it'd be located in the
>> settings area of the app, settings and help it's called but wasn't
>> able to find anything describing what the settings actually do.
>> Hopefully though, someone may be able to help out on describing the
>> settings. What sorta of info are you searching for, and I'll do my
>> best to answer what I know. I don't personally use a lot of the added
>> on features of twitter, photos and such, but the rest I may can explain.
>>
>> Take it easy.
>> On 8/30/2012 1:12 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Could anyone help me find the help section for tweet list?.
>>> Would love to learn more about all it's settings etc.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Ioana
>>>
>>> Typed with Fleksy
>>> reply://igandra...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most
>>> online stores.
>>> Sent from my phone
>>>
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Re: Tweet list basic help

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, if you choose to reply to a person, it's taken care for you by 
sending the tweet with the at sign in front of that person's user name. 
However if you want certain keywords to stand out, or if you want to 
manually mention someone in your new tweet, then you add them yourself.


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On 8/30/2012 6:39 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:

Thank you Raul.  I too just started working with tweetlist although have not
written a tweet but just read them.  I wondered what the number sign meant
and some of the other signs.  Do people who use twitter place these symbols
in their tweets or do they automatically pop up?
 From a baby tweeter

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Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Tweet list basic help

Hi, this sounds like you might be looking for help on Twitter, not
Tweetlist. The reason I say this is because you asked what buttons for
hash tag and users. A person who knows Twitter, will know what these are
when they appear in any app, not just TweetList.

Regarding TweetList specifically, they have made it super voice over
friendly. You can double-tap, double-tap and hold, and triple-tap on a
tweet to get many different options on what to do. Now, the things to do
are twitter based, and twitter specific and if you know what these
things are, then they will make sense. For example a hash tag is the
number sign symbol which is placed before a word which you want to be
easily searched. If I post a tweet about an accessible app for iOS I
might put #ios and #a11y and #blind as part of my tweet so that people
looking for these can find my tweet easier. A user name is the at sign
before someone's twitter name. This is done if you want to mention that
person. So, if you write the tweet I am having lunch with @rau47 today.
Then I would see it because you used the at sign in front of my twitter
username rau47.

I hope this helps you get started.

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On 8/30/2012 3:38 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

Thanks for your offer to help.

For now I am curious about the buttons that appear when you try to
compose a tweet: hashtags,users etc.

I am surprised it is so hard to find help for the app.

THanks again,

Ioana


Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com
 on iTunes and most online stores.

On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:37 PM, jeremy mailto:icu8...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello Ioana. I checked throughout tweetlist and also their page and
couldn't locate any sort of help. I figured it'd be located in the
settings area of the app, settings and help it's called but wasn't
able to find anything describing what the settings actually do.
Hopefully though, someone may be able to help out on describing the
settings. What sorta of info are you searching for, and I'll do my
best to answer what I know. I don't personally use a lot of the added
on features of twitter, photos and such, but the rest I may can explain.

Take it easy.
On 8/30/2012 1:12 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:


Hello,

Could anyone help me find the help section for tweet list?.
Would love to learn more about all it's settings etc.

Thanks, Ioana

Typed with Fleksy
reply://igandra...@gmail.com



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Re: App to monitor flights

[Kevin Barry]

Flight Aware is free and works fine.
I also use Flight Track, which is not  free, for my travels.

At 07:26 AM 8/30/2012, you wrote:
Has anyone had experience with any of the apps that can monitor 
airline flights? If so, which do you find readily usable? Thanks.


Sandy

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RE: google latitude?

[Kevin Barry]

You could take the trouble to look it up on the app store and find 
out for yourself.


At 08:44 AM 8/30/2012, you wrote:

What is Google Latitude?

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Subject: google latitude?

hi all, is Google latitude accessible?

thanks
Srikanth

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Re: AudioBooks.com

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, the app looks to be very VO friendly. I looked at the site and it 
appears that the cost is $24.95 for unlimited streaming of books. This 
seems kind of high to me. So I asked them if they have a lesser plan, 
like a limit of 2 or 3 books per month for a lower price. In an way this 
reminds me of Netflix which allows you to stream unlimited movies and tv 
shows for $7.99 per month. Of course there are probably more Netflix 
customers than AudioBook customers, but still, not a bad idea.


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On 8/30/2012 5:23 PM, Joe wrote:

Sorry if this has already been shared, but the new AudioBooks.com app
lets you listen to unlimited books on iOS for a flat monthly fee.
Thought some here would appreciate the news.

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Re: Jawbone Jambox

[VaShaun Jones]

I absolutely love the big Jam Box. It really really produces a high quality 
sound. I'm using it for presentations and it fills the room nicely.
On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Thom  wrote:

> Hi there Kim,
> I have the JamBox. Even though the price was a bit high for a speaker, I
> really like the sound quality that comes from such a portable unit.
> The updates through the website are a pain, since they are not accessible.
> However, with some patience and tinkering, it can be done. It holds a charge
> quite well, and has voice replies to let you know of the battery level.
> 
> I'd really be interested in the sound quality of the big JamBox, it's a bit
> higher by $100 or so.
> 
> Easy to pair, small and compact with above average sound. 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kimberly thurman
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Jawbone Jambox
> 
> 
> Anybody have this?  Do you like it.  Why or why not?  
> 
> Appreciate any info.
> 
> Kim
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Netflix et al?

[Fred Olver]

So, my daughter asked me the other day if we could get netflix, I told her I 
didn't know how accessible it was or how to do that, so I am asking?
We have cable at this time, and she wants us to convert over to netflix, how 
can it be done, to make maximum of the product and using Voice-Over.

Thanks.

Fred Olver

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RE: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

If one pays full price for an iPhone or an older version, what are
carrier options?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sean Paul
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal
hotspot.

Here's part of the issue going forward though. Currently AT&T doesn't
force 
you to choose one of their shared data plans. However my understanding
from 
a area manager of AT&T's is that once the iPhone 5 comes out. They're
going 
to adopt the same model VZ has. Meaning that if you want the upgrade
price 
on a device. They're going to force you to switch in to 1 of these
shared 
data plans. So, unless you wanta either pay full price for your devices
or 
buy older 1's off of Ebay, etc. Now, I'm not sure about any of you.
However, 
I don't have the money to pay full price for a new iPhone 5 when it
comes 
out. So, perhaps none  of us will have much of a choice going forward.
Or, 
we'll keep using older devices. These are questions we'll have to ask 
ourselves. We'll also have to wait & see if they really adopt this model

going henceforth.
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Howell" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 05:31
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal
hotspot.


Raul,

Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from
perhaps 
4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge goes up. So,
the 
only way these data plans make sense is for people with lots of devices.

AT&T really did not take into account the families with two or three
phones. 
The $70 for unlimited text and voice is not to bad I suppose, although
the 
cost for text is so out of line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow
for 
carriers. :)

On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos  
wrote:

> Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and 
> texts. You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but
then 
> you pay for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a 4gb
plan 
> with 3 phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40 per
phone. 
> So, do the math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take one of
their 
> older plans like the 700 minute shared minute plan with unlimited text
and 
> mobile to any mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60 for the plan, plus
30 
> for the texting, plus roughly 10 per each phone, plus the data on
those 
> phones. So, 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3 phones makes 120. Now add data.
Let's 
> say 30 per phone for 3gb each. that's an extra 90 making it 210. So
maybe 
> going with the 4gb plan for those same 3 phones will save you 20.
However 
> if you have an older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 per month on
data 
> plans, then switching to the new data shared plan costs more.
>
> Hope this helps.
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> On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:
>> I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the
personal
>> hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I
have
>> it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
>> Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long
run,
>> but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade
through
>> the AT&T site to understand their shared data information, but
finally
>> just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Kevin Barry > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date sent: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:42:51 -0400
>> Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>>
>> In theory yes; however I have the old plan and tethering works.
>> I don't use it as I have zero  need to do it.
>> I'll never sign up for the  new rippoff so-called shared data plans.
>>
>> At 08:05 PM 8/26/2012, you wrote:
>> Right if you have vzw's new plan it is included however if you are on
>> one of
>> the old plans it is still an add on feature.
>>
>>
>> Corey Cook
>> Facebook:
>> corey.coo...@gmail.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of CD
>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>>
>> I don't know.  Verizon does it with their shared plan.  It's a new
thing.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Jenifer
>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.
>>
>> Does at&t?
>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:
>>
>> Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it
either.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]

Re: Netflix et al?

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, you can somewhat use the Netflix app on an iOS device. It takes some 
work-arounds, but can be done. If you have a Roku, you can get Netflix 
there, but it's not accessible to the blind. If you have an Apple TV 
then you can use Netflix there. We have Netflix and we all like it very 
much. Although Roku isn't accessible, if a sighted person puts me on my 
Star Trek shows, I can easily navigate from memory on where I want to 
go. I also have an Apple TV and use Netflix there a lot. I don't use it 
as much on my iPhone, but I don't have a specific reason for that. 
Watching TV series using the app is problematic, but watching movies 
works rather well.


Good luck, and may the odds be forever in your favor.

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On 8/30/2012 8:05 PM, Fred Olver wrote:

So, my daughter asked me the other day if we could get netflix, I told
her I didn't know how accessible it was or how to do that, so I am asking?
We have cable at this time, and she wants us to convert over to netflix,
how can it be done, to make maximum of the product and using Voice-Over.
Thanks.
Fred Olver

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Re: AudioBooks.com

[Raul A. Gallegos]

I got a response from them and they confirmed that the current plan is 
$24.95 / month for unlimited books. They don't have other plans available.


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On 8/30/2012 7:09 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi, the app looks to be very VO friendly. I looked at the site and it
appears that the cost is $24.95 for unlimited streaming of books. This
seems kind of high to me. So I asked them if they have a lesser plan,
like a limit of 2 or 3 books per month for a lower price. In an way this
reminds me of Netflix which allows you to stream unlimited movies and tv
shows for $7.99 per month. Of course there are probably more Netflix
customers than AudioBook customers, but still, not a bad idea.

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On 8/30/2012 5:23 PM, Joe wrote:

Sorry if this has already been shared, but the new AudioBooks.com app
lets you listen to unlimited books on iOS for a flat monthly fee.
Thought some here would appreciate the news.

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Re: Jawbone Jambox

[Kimberly thurman]

Does the Big Jambox have spoken prompts like  the smaller one?  Thanks in 
advance!
On Aug 29, 2012, at 7:19 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

> I absolutely love the big Jam Box. It really really produces a high quality 
> sound. I'm using it for presentations and it fills the room nicely.
> On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Thom  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there Kim,
>> I have the JamBox. Even though the price was a bit high for a speaker, I
>> really like the sound quality that comes from such a portable unit.
>> The updates through the website are a pain, since they are not accessible.
>> However, with some patience and tinkering, it can be done. It holds a charge
>> quite well, and has voice replies to let you know of the battery level.
>> 
>> I'd really be interested in the sound quality of the big JamBox, it's a bit
>> higher by $100 or so.
>> 
>> Easy to pair, small and compact with above average sound. 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Kimberly thurman
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Jawbone Jambox
>> 
>> 
>> Anybody have this?  Do you like it.  Why or why not?  
>> 
>> Appreciate any info.
>> 
>> Kim
>> 
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Re: LookTel Recognizer Version 1.2 Released

[Andy Baracco]

It still suffers from the deficit of needing sighted assistance to configure it.

Andy

From: Mark BurningHawk 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: LookTel Recognizer Version 1.2 Released
Hey, could you use Recognizer to identify which pool ball you were looking at 
on a pool table?  That could be kinda neat. 

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RE: AudioBooks.com

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Raul and others,

I tried out AudioBooks.com a while back and the one thing I didn't like was
that I started listening to a book and when I was about half way through (a
day or 2 after I started) the book was suddenly not available any more. I
contacted their support and they apologized for the inconvenience and
explained that the licence for them to have that book somehow expired or got
pulled and that there was nothing they could do about this. In the end I
bought the book on Audible because I did like it a lot and really wanted to
finish it.

I guess for somebody like me who probably goes from anywhere from 2 to 4
books a week this would be a good deal if it was reliable since my Platinum
Audible membership which gives me 2 books a months is $22.95. However, those
books are mine and while I heard about books being pulled from Audible, they
still work and are yours in your library once you purchased them. I also
find that by taking advantage of all their $4.99 or $7.99 sales, their "Buy
3 books for 2 credits" or "Buy 3 extra credits for $34.49 etc. I average
about $8 per book which I consider not a bad deal at all. 


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AudioBooks.com

I got a response from them and they confirmed that the current plan is
$24.95 / month for unlimited books. They don't have other plans available.

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On 8/30/2012 7:09 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
> Hi, the app looks to be very VO friendly. I looked at the site and it 
> appears that the cost is $24.95 for unlimited streaming of books. This 
> seems kind of high to me. So I asked them if they have a lesser plan, 
> like a limit of 2 or 3 books per month for a lower price. In an way 
> this reminds me of Netflix which allows you to stream unlimited movies 
> and tv shows for $7.99 per month. Of course there are probably more 
> Netflix customers than AudioBook customers, but still, not a bad idea.
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> On 8/30/2012 5:23 PM, Joe wrote:
>> Sorry if this has already been shared, but the new AudioBooks.com app 
>> lets you listen to unlimited books on iOS for a flat monthly fee.
>> Thought some here would appreciate the news.
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Re: Jawbone Jambox

[Les Kriegler]

Yes it does.  I believe the prompts are exactly the same as on its little 
brother.

Les
On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Kimberly thurman  wrote:

> Does the Big Jambox have spoken prompts like  the smaller one?  Thanks in 
> advance!
> On Aug 29, 2012, at 7:19 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
> 
>> I absolutely love the big Jam Box. It really really produces a high quality 
>> sound. I'm using it for presentations and it fills the room nicely.
>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Thom  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there Kim,
>>> I have the JamBox. Even though the price was a bit high for a speaker, I
>>> really like the sound quality that comes from such a portable unit.
>>> The updates through the website are a pain, since they are not accessible.
>>> However, with some patience and tinkering, it can be done. It holds a charge
>>> quite well, and has voice replies to let you know of the battery level.
>>> 
>>> I'd really be interested in the sound quality of the big JamBox, it's a bit
>>> higher by $100 or so.
>>> 
>>> Easy to pair, small and compact with above average sound. 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Kimberly thurman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:37 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Jawbone Jambox
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anybody have this?  Do you like it.  Why or why not?  
>>> 
>>> Appreciate any info.
>>> 
>>> Kim
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Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Damashe Thomas]

That absolutely why I use it. I think I have made maybe two facetime calls 
since getting my hone, and that was just to try it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.


Hi, considering that Facetime isn't cross platform, I just use Skype. Wtih 
Skype I can use it on wi-fi or cell network. I can talk to users on their 
computers, iPhones, iPods, Androids, or Linux machines. I follow the 
podcasts and tweets from Life Hacker and they also recommend Skype over 
FaceTime for those same reasons.


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On 8/30/2012 10:24 AM, Damashe Thomas wrote:

I would like to point out that the only thing verizon does is forces you
to give up unlimited data if you choos to use an upgrade. They still off
the 2GB and 5GB data lans for $30 and $50 respectively. So you could go
with one of those if you weren't interested in the shared data package.
It is interesting that at&t may adopt this strategy after the release of
the new iPhone. Currentl as a verizon customer with unlimited data, I am
slightly envious that at&t customers can upgrade without giving up
unlimited data with the only restriction being that you can't use
facetime over 3G when that becomes available.
- Original Message - From: "Sean Paul" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.



Here's part of the issue going forward though. Currently AT&T doesn't
force you to choose one of their shared data plans. However my
understanding from a area manager of AT&T's is that once the iPhone 5
comes out. They're going to adopt the same model VZ has. Meaning that
if you want the upgrade price on a device. They're going to force you
to switch in to 1 of these shared data plans. So, unless you wanta
either pay full price for your devices or buy older 1's off of Ebay,
etc. Now, I'm not sure about any of you. However, I don't have the
money to pay full price for a new iPhone 5 when it comes out. So,
perhaps none  of us will have much of a choice going forward. Or,
we'll keep using older devices. These are questions we'll have to ask
ourselves. We'll also have to wait & see if they really adopt this
model going henceforth.
- Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 05:31
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal 
hotspot.



Raul,

Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from
perhaps 4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge
goes up. So, the only way these data plans make sense is for people
with lots of devices. AT&T really did not take into account the
families with two or three phones. The $70 for unlimited text and
voice is not to bad I suppose, although the cost for text is so out of
line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow for carriers. :)

On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos 
wrote:


Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and
texts. You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but
then you pay for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a
4gb plan with 3 phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40
per phone. So, do the math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take
one of their older plans like the 700 minute shared minute plan with
unlimited text and mobile to any mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60
for the plan, plus 30 for the texting, plus roughly 10 per each
phone, plus the data on those phones. So, 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3
phones makes 120. Now add data. Let's say 30 per phone for 3gb each.
that's an extra 90 making it 210. So maybe going with the 4gb plan
for those same 3 phones will save you 20. However if you have an
older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 per month on data plans, then
switching to the new data shared plan costs more.

Hope this helps.

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On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:
I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the 
personal

hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I have
it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long 
run,

but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade through
the AT&T site to understand their shared data information, but finally
just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now.

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Barry mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of CD
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM
To: viphone@goog

Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Damashe Thomas]

I agree. There are more and more preay carriers in the u.s that either carry 
or suort the phones that customers want. Most, if not all, are using one of 
the big carriers network coverage so we have the option of nationwide 
coverage for a fraction of the price. It is true that you wouldn't get 
subsidized rices on new devices, but in the case of verizon, that doesn't 
make much of a difference for some users like myself. I can't lose unlimited 
data at this point. I probably won't be getting the new ihone when it comes 
out, but when I am able, I will pay full rice because I rely on using date 
with no restrictions.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.



Hi Scott and Raul,

I am in Canada so I only know what I hear on here and Today in iOS when it
comes to AT&T, but what about all the people who don't want or need a 
shared

plan and just want 1 iPhone? I am amazed by what AT&T seems to get away
with, $30 for unlimited texting? Really? I am a very light data user, but 
I

pay $45 here in Canada for unlimited voice minutes and airt time minutes
across all of Canada and then a $10 add-on gives me voice mail, call 
display

and unlimited texting and that includes international text messages. I
wouldn't be surprised if some day soon large carriers like AT&T, Verizon 
and

Sprint have to change their act and start dropping prices because of the
competition and customer pressure. After all, some of us here remember how
expensive long distance was back in the 80s and still part of the 90s. It
used to cost $ 2 a minute to call Germany, there were cheaper rates for
certain times of the day etc. Now it doesn't matter when you call and even
from the big providers it's only a few Cents a minute, we are talking 
about

a 95 or 98% drop in price.

By the way, it does sound as if T-Mobil will be getting the new iPhone in
September which, incidently, will not be called the iPhone 5, at least it 
is

extremely unlikely that it will be called iPhone 5.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

[Damashe Thomas]

You can keep what ever plan you have, and it would give you some flexibility 
concerning contracts.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:10 PM
Subject: RE: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.



If one pays full price for an iPhone or an older version, what are
carrier options?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sean Paul
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal
hotspot.

Here's part of the issue going forward though. Currently AT&T doesn't
force
you to choose one of their shared data plans. However my understanding
from
a area manager of AT&T's is that once the iPhone 5 comes out. They're
going
to adopt the same model VZ has. Meaning that if you want the upgrade
price
on a device. They're going to force you to switch in to 1 of these
shared
data plans. So, unless you wanta either pay full price for your devices
or
buy older 1's off of Ebay, etc. Now, I'm not sure about any of you.
However,
I don't have the money to pay full price for a new iPhone 5 when it
comes
out. So, perhaps none  of us will have much of a choice going forward.
Or,
we'll keep using older devices. These are questions we'll have to ask
ourselves. We'll also have to wait & see if they really adopt this model

going henceforth.
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Howell" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 05:31
Subject: Re: AT&T data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal
hotspot.


Raul,

Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from
perhaps
4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge goes up. So,
the
only way these data plans make sense is for people with lots of devices.

AT&T really did not take into account the families with two or three
phones.
The $70 for unlimited text and voice is not to bad I suppose, although
the
cost for text is so out of line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow
for
carriers. :)

On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos 
wrote:


Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and
texts. You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but

then

you pay for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a 4gb

plan

with 3 phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40 per

phone.

So, do the math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take one of

their

older plans like the 700 minute shared minute plan with unlimited text

and

mobile to any mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60 for the plan, plus

30

for the texting, plus roughly 10 per each phone, plus the data on

those

phones. So, 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3 phones makes 120. Now add data.

Let's

say 30 per phone for 3gb each. that's an extra 90 making it 210. So

maybe

going with the 4gb plan for those same 3 phones will save you 20.

However

if you have an older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 per month on

data

plans, then switching to the new data shared plan costs more.

Hope this helps.

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On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:

I just went to the AT&T site, and looks like they now have the

personal

hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well.  I

have

it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it.
Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long

run,

but I just couldn't figure that out for sure.  I tried to wade

through

the AT&T site to understand their shared data information, but

finally

just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now.

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Barry mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of CD
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot.

I don't know.  Verizon does it with their shared plan.  It's a new

thing.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Jenifer
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Does at&t?
On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, "CD"  wrote:

Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it

either.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jenifer
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:28 PM
To: The iPhone List
Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot.

Hi all.
How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can
connect my Mack to?  I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere else. Any
suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Jenifer

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Re: Tweet list basic help

[Damashe Thomas]

That was a very good exlanation. I think you covered it all.
- Original Message - 
From: "jeremy" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Tweet list basic help


Hey Ioana.
This is what I came up with, so forgive me if it's not completely
accurate. It seems that the first two buttons, hashtag and username are
used to insert the associated mark into your tweet. As you may already
know, both the # and @ characters are used for different things in a
tweet. First, you use the hash sign to point out a word or phrase, and
if this hashtag gets repeated enough, you can actually get a trend
going. Not sure what this is used for, aside from trending topics, but,
there ya go. The second, the att sign is used before a user's name to
send tweets to them. This may only be for retweeting and replying, not
so sure. Anyways, I'd first assumed you could press the username button
and type the first letter of there username to have a list generated
from your followers to choose from, but that didn't work. Also, if you
wanted, you could also generate these marks straight from the on-screen
keyboard to. the third button, options, will pull up an area, giving you
access to your camera, for taking a picture I assume, your photo library
for pictures already on the phone, and an option to shorten a URL. You
will also see a now playing button, which I assume sends a tweet of your
current media playing in the music app. The usernames button should
bring up a list of followers which you should be able to click to have
their name placed in the edit box. Lastly, the geotag button, I think,
inserts information on your location, but I don't know for sure. To get
back out of this area, press the keyboard for the on-screen keyboard to
pop back up on the screen.
Hope this helps.
Take care.

On 8/30/2012 2:38 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

Thanks for your offer to help.

For now I am curious about the buttons that appear when you try to compose 
a tweet: hashtags,users etc.


I am surprised it is so hard to find help for the app.

THanks again,

Ioana


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On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:37 PM, jeremy  wrote:

Hello Ioana. I checked throughout tweetlist and also their page and 
couldn't locate any sort of help. I figured it'd be located in the 
settings area of the app, settings and help it's called but wasn't able 
to find anything describing what the settings actually do. Hopefully 
though, someone may be able to help out on describing the settings. What 
sorta of info are you searching for, and I'll do my best to answer what I 
know. I don't personally use a lot of the added on features of twitter, 
photos and such, but the rest I may can explain.


Take it easy.
On 8/30/2012 1:12 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

Hello,

Could anyone help me find the help section for tweet list?.
Would love to learn more about all it's settings etc.

Thanks, Ioana

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Re: LookTel Recognizer Version 1.2 Released

[David Chittenden]

Ok, let's rather say sighted assistance is strongly encouraged as a blind 
person would find it extremely difficult to take a proper image. 

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On 31/08/2012, at 13:42, "Andy Baracco"  wrote:

> It still suffers from the deficit of needing sighted assistance to configure 
> it.
>  
> Andy
>  
> From: Mark BurningHawk
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: LookTel Recognizer Version 1.2 Released
> Hey, could you use Recognizer to identify which pool ball you were looking at 
> on a pool table?  That could be kinda neat.
>  
> Mark BurningHawk
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home page:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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RE: LookTel Recognizer Version 1.2 Released

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I agree, David, just because a blind person is simply not capable of taking
an image that is lined up and focused as well as a sighted person this does
not make the app less useful or constitude a "deficit". For LookTel
Recognizer to be at its best the image has to be of the most unique part of
a package and if possible contain no background. I had relatively good
results by taking pictures myself by placing the item on a large white piece
of paper, but I also don't find it a big deal to make a list of items I want
to put into Recognizer and then ask a sighted friend to take the pictures
for me. One can always make this into a bit of a social get-together and I
have long since learned that trying to be independent where it's not really
necessarily at best is time consuming and a pain in the neck and at worst it
reduces one's social skills and interaction with others. LookTel Recognizer
is an awesome tool and for those often used every-day items it's a one-time
setup process which means that as my database grows I will need sighted help
less often.

 

 

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Sieghard

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Re: Jawbone Jambox

[Michael Amaro]

Can you also use it to play music on your laptop?

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To: 
Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox

Does the Big Jambox have spoken prompts like  the smaller one?  Thanks in 
advance!

On Aug 29, 2012, at 7:19 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

I absolutely love the big Jam Box. It really really produces a high 
quality sound. I'm using it for presentations and it fills the room 
nicely.

On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Thom  wrote:


Hi there Kim,
I have the JamBox. Even though the price was a bit high for a speaker, I
really like the sound quality that comes from such a portable unit.
The updates through the website are a pain, since they are not 
accessible.
However, with some patience and tinkering, it can be done. It holds a 
charge

quite well, and has voice replies to let you know of the battery level.

I'd really be interested in the sound quality of the big JamBox, it's a 
bit

higher by $100 or so.

Easy to pair, small and compact with above average sound.
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Anybody have this?  Do you like it.  Why or why not?

Appreciate any info.

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Re: google latitude?

[Srikanth Kanuri]

well, thanks for the free suggestion. i fairly know that. i asked
whether anyone used this app and found it to be accessible or not.

On 8/31/12, Kevin Barry  wrote:
> You could take the trouble to look it up on the app store and find
> out for yourself.
>
> At 08:44 AM 8/30/2012, you wrote:
>>What is Google Latitude?
>>
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>>Subject: google latitude?
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>>hi all, is Google latitude accessible?
>>
>>thanks
>>Srikanth
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