Re: Sling tv

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

The key question is - are you going to be able to cancel this within that 7 day 
trial theyoffer?

Offering it is one thing, honouring it is quite another.  I presume they have 
your card or bank details to play with in the 
meantime?

BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Terri Stimmel" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 12:44 AM
Subject: Sling tv


Hello everyone,


I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
trial.


I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.

I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!


So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.


It doesn't work!

I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
come up.


I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
the menu.

So how hard can it be?


I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.


I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
Even if many of you already knew all this.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Sling tv

[Kliphton Miller]

Yes, going threw the channels with someone sited is very helpful.  Should we 
have to do it?  Of course not, but not everyone makes there apps accessible, so 
this is the next best thing.  Also, pay attention to the number of channels, 
they add and remove some from time to time.
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list,
> 
> Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of this. 
> Or I mean, trial.
> I asked the man on the phone yesterday, that if for some reason I 
> couldn't cancel online, could I call and cancel. He told me yes there 
> would be no problem with that, and that I could even email them. So I 
> feel pretty good about this.
> 
> The sad thing is, both people I have dealt with from that company, have 
> been very nice, and polite. They try to be helpful. But they are 
> ignorant in a lot of ways. I don't said that to be rude, just speaking 
> the truth.
> 
> For instance, when I called last night to see where I could find a 
> listing of channels, I got a very nice man on the phone. He wanted to be 
> helpful. I told him that I was blind, and he didn't seemed as shocked as 
> the first guy who had helped me set up my account.
> 
> However, when I told him that I wanted to hopefully find a listing of 
> channels. He told me this was possible. I asked him where to go and he 
> said, after you see a few pictures, keep going down a bit, and you will 
> see a link for channels, and packages. Something like that anyway. I 
> decided to not repeat that I was blind, and that I wouldn't see the 
> pictures.
> I played around with the site, and I did find where I could view the 
> channel listings. It of course doesn't give you a number. But you can 
> find out what is available, and what package it is in. I found this all 
> works better with Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer for some reason.
> 
> And Kliphton, Fox is channel 1 on mine as well. I think channel 4, or 5 
> is Fox Midwest, as I ended up watching a little bit of a hockey game. 
> That was cool!
> 
> I asked my roommate when he got home last night, if he would go through 
> the channels with me, and he said yes. So I am excited about this.
> 
> Terri
> On 11/13/2016 8:48 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>> yah, that’s it.  I think it depends on your area, my channel 1 is my local 
>> fox channel.
>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kliphton,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's under guide. I played around with it, and found the channels. Of
>>> course, like you mentioned, it doesn't say what they are. But it lists
>>> the numbers, and says when I am on one. It says, sellected. I can get
>>> the channels to play, so far.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I signed up for the blue, and orange package. I would like to know what
>>> the orange extra package is, if I plan to keep this.
>>> 
>>> By the way, apparently, channel 1 is FX.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry you have been dealing with a loss, and a funeral.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your help with this. If you think of anything else, please
>>> let me know.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Terri
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/12/2016 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
 Maybe it is my tv, I can’t really remember, been out of town for a 
 funeral, and haven’t watched much TV the last 2 weeks.
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Kliphton, and list,
> 
> 
> Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't planning
> on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had to re-install it.
> 
> I had some trouble signing in, which I didn't before. So I found that to
> be a bit odd.
> 
> 
> Anyway, I couldn't find a watch now option. I found my tv, on now,
> search, settings, and possibly something else. I just can't remember
> what it was. But I know for sure it wasn't watch now.
> 
> 
> Here is where things get interesting.
> 
> I went in to the on now. I slid my finger down, and I was shocked to
> hear programs being announced. Now I think I could go left and right as
> well. But I don't remember for sure.
> 
> 
> It would tell me the name of the show, but not if it was a movie, or a
> show. Some of it was obvious. It would tell me the tv rating, the start
> time, but unfortunately not the channel. Also, when I entered on an
> option, not sure if it was a movie, it did come up. Once it came up, I
> learned it was an episode of Nashville.
> 
> 
> I just found this interesting, and thought that I would pass this on. I
> think I will fiddle around with it a bit more.
> 
> 
> I wish the website offered a list of channels. But I don't think they do.
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> On 11/12/2016 9:57 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>> Sorry, if you go in 

Re: Sling tv

[Brent Harding]

That doesn't sound too bad coming from a spot where the cable box guide 
gives us nothing at all to work with because it doesn't talk. At least the 
work arounds should be consistent, at least until an update is done. Work is 
sort of like that too in one of the main programs I use, except with the 
Jaws cursor, the results get inconsistent in that parts get cut off, and 
it's usually the option I need. It might do it rarely, and then one day, it 
might happen every other call, and I have to get someone to scroll the 
screen for me. I like it that with Apple, at least most of the time, you can 
always get to everything, or at least a consistent result you can work 
around.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terri Stimmel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Sling tv


Hi Kliphton,


No, it's not the way to have to do it. But if it works for now, then
that's what matters.


I did discover these tabs at one point. I can't remember exactly where I
was when I discovered them. I think I had a channel on. But I couldn't
access those either.


In a way, I feel it's just like cable. I couldn't ever watch anything
on-demand without sighted help, or on pay-per-view. But at least I could
go right to a channel.


Now what is this thing with Direct tv I'm hearing of?

I don't know how to look it up, or I would. But I don't know what to
look for.


Thank you,


Terri


On 11/13/2016 10:04 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
Yes, going threw the channels with someone sited is very helpful.  Should 
we have to do it?  Of course not, but not everyone makes there apps 
accessible, so this is the next best thing.  Also, pay attention to the 
number of channels, they add and remove some from time to time.
On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Terri Stimmel  
wrote:


Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list,

Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of this.
Or I mean, trial.
I asked the man on the phone yesterday, that if for some reason I
couldn't cancel online, could I call and cancel. He told me yes there
would be no problem with that, and that I could even email them. So I
feel pretty good about this.

The sad thing is, both people I have dealt with from that company, have
been very nice, and polite. They try to be helpful. But they are
ignorant in a lot of ways. I don't said that to be rude, just speaking
the truth.

For instance, when I called last night to see where I could find a
listing of channels, I got a very nice man on the phone. He wanted to be
helpful. I told him that I was blind, and he didn't seemed as shocked as
the first guy who had helped me set up my account.

However, when I told him that I wanted to hopefully find a listing of
channels. He told me this was possible. I asked him where to go and he
said, after you see a few pictures, keep going down a bit, and you will
see a link for channels, and packages. Something like that anyway. I
decided to not repeat that I was blind, and that I wouldn't see the
pictures.
I played around with the site, and I did find where I could view the
channel listings. It of course doesn't give you a number. But you can
find out what is available, and what package it is in. I found this all
works better with Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer for some reason.

And Kliphton, Fox is channel 1 on mine as well. I think channel 4, or 5
is Fox Midwest, as I ended up watching a little bit of a hockey game.
That was cool!

I asked my roommate when he got home last night, if he would go through
the channels with me, and he said yes. So I am excited about this.

Terri
On 11/13/2016 8:48 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
yah, that’s it.  I think it depends on your area, my channel 1 is my 
local fox channel.
On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Terri Stimmel 
 wrote:


Hi Kliphton,


It's under guide. I played around with it, and found the channels. Of
course, like you mentioned, it doesn't say what they are. But it lists
the numbers, and says when I am on one. It says, sellected. I can get
the channels to play, so far.


I signed up for the blue, and orange package. I would like to know what
the orange extra package is, if I plan to keep this.

By the way, apparently, channel 1 is FX.


I'm sorry you have been dealing with a loss, and a funeral.


Thank you for your help with this. If you think of anything else, 
please

let me know.


Thank you,


Terri


On 11/12/2016 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
Maybe it is my tv, I can’t really remember, been out of town for a 
funeral, and haven’t watched much TV the last 2 weeks.
On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Terri Stimmel 
 wrote:


Hello Kliphton, and list,


Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't 
planning

on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had to re-install it.

I had some trouble signing in, which I didn't before. So I found that 
to

be a bit odd.

Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9

[Don Breda]

Oh thanks very much for this. You were quite correct I was looking in 
the wrong place.



Thanks.


Don



On 13-Nov-16 12:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don,

I believe you were looking in the wrong place. What you describe is in 
Settings > General > Accessibility > Call Audio Routing.


The place where you have to go if you want to disable automatic 
switching is Settings > General > Accessibility > Voiceover > Audio 
(it’s between “Braille” and “Rotor”.


Turn off “Audio select speaker in call” if you don’t want the call to 
automatically switch to speakerphone.


Description is given as: “During audio calls, automatically switch to 
the speaker when not holding your iPhone to your ear”.


I hope a few others write to Apple Accessibility about this because 
they should just fix it to make it work as it is intended to work 
because for a blind person it is a nice feature if it works correctly.


Regards,

Sieghard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Don Breda

*Sent:* Sunday, November 13, 2016 6:20 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9

Hi Seigart.

I looked at this setting in IOS10 and it looks like the choices are 
automatic, speaker, or bluetooth headset.


I  see no setting to force it to go and stay on the built in earpiece.

Don

On 10-Nov-16 8:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Richard,

The "Audio" option and the ability to turn off automatic switching to 
speakerphone is a feature which just now became available with iOS 10. If you upgrade you 
can set it to not switch automatically.

Regards,

Sieghard

-Original Message-

From:viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard

Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 7:21 AM

To:viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9

Hi Rajmund,

Yes, I am.

- Original Message -

From: "Rajmund" 

To: 

Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:53 AM

Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9

Hi, Are you still on IOS9.x, by any chance?

Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -

From: Richard 

To:viphone@googlegroups.com 

Date: Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:49 pm

Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9

Hi Rajmund,

Thanks for your response,I found VoiceOver,

Settings, General, Accessibility, but in the VoiceOver settings there 
was

no

Audio.

Is something amiss here?

Thanks,

Rick

- Original Message -

From: "Rajmund" 

To: 

Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:18 AM

Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9

Hi,

Settings,  general, voice over, audio.

Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -

From: Richard 

To:viphone@googlegroups.com 

Date: Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:17 pm

Subject: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9

Is there any way to turn off the speaker phone function on these 
phones?

It seems that if I don't hold my head or the phone at the right

position,

it

keeps switching .

Personally, I find it very annoying!

Thanks,

Rick

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Re: Sling tv

[Kliphton Miller]

Direct TV has a streaming service looks to be coming real soon.  They have 
released the channel lineup, said they will offer over 100 channels for 35 
bucks, and even offer a free appleTV 4 if you commit to 3 months of service.  
You can google direct TV now, or go to cordcuttersnews.com 

and they have a few articles about it there.
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kliphton,
> 
> 
> No, it's not the way to have to do it. But if it works for now, then 
> that's what matters.
> 
> 
> I did discover these tabs at one point. I can't remember exactly where I 
> was when I discovered them. I think I had a channel on. But I couldn't 
> access those either.
> 
> 
> In a way, I feel it's just like cable. I couldn't ever watch anything 
> on-demand without sighted help, or on pay-per-view. But at least I could 
> go right to a channel.
> 
> 
> Now what is this thing with Direct tv I'm hearing of?
> 
> I don't know how to look it up, or I would. But I don't know what to 
> look for.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> On 11/13/2016 10:04 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>> Yes, going threw the channels with someone sited is very helpful.  Should we 
>> have to do it?  Of course not, but not everyone makes there apps accessible, 
>> so this is the next best thing.  Also, pay attention to the number of 
>> channels, they add and remove some from time to time.
>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list,
>>> 
>>> Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of this.
>>> Or I mean, trial.
>>> I asked the man on the phone yesterday, that if for some reason I
>>> couldn't cancel online, could I call and cancel. He told me yes there
>>> would be no problem with that, and that I could even email them. So I
>>> feel pretty good about this.
>>> 
>>> The sad thing is, both people I have dealt with from that company, have
>>> been very nice, and polite. They try to be helpful. But they are
>>> ignorant in a lot of ways. I don't said that to be rude, just speaking
>>> the truth.
>>> 
>>> For instance, when I called last night to see where I could find a
>>> listing of channels, I got a very nice man on the phone. He wanted to be
>>> helpful. I told him that I was blind, and he didn't seemed as shocked as
>>> the first guy who had helped me set up my account.
>>> 
>>> However, when I told him that I wanted to hopefully find a listing of
>>> channels. He told me this was possible. I asked him where to go and he
>>> said, after you see a few pictures, keep going down a bit, and you will
>>> see a link for channels, and packages. Something like that anyway. I
>>> decided to not repeat that I was blind, and that I wouldn't see the
>>> pictures.
>>> I played around with the site, and I did find where I could view the
>>> channel listings. It of course doesn't give you a number. But you can
>>> find out what is available, and what package it is in. I found this all
>>> works better with Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer for some reason.
>>> 
>>> And Kliphton, Fox is channel 1 on mine as well. I think channel 4, or 5
>>> is Fox Midwest, as I ended up watching a little bit of a hockey game.
>>> That was cool!
>>> 
>>> I asked my roommate when he got home last night, if he would go through
>>> the channels with me, and he said yes. So I am excited about this.
>>> 
>>> Terri
>>> On 11/13/2016 8:48 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
 yah, that’s it.  I think it depends on your area, my channel 1 is my local 
 fox channel.
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kliphton,
> 
> 
> It's under guide. I played around with it, and found the channels. Of
> course, like you mentioned, it doesn't say what they are. But it lists
> the numbers, and says when I am on one. It says, sellected. I can get
> the channels to play, so far.
> 
> 
> I signed up for the blue, and orange package. I would like to know what
> the orange extra package is, if I plan to keep this.
> 
> By the way, apparently, channel 1 is FX.
> 
> 
> I'm sorry you have been dealing with a loss, and a funeral.
> 
> 
> Thank you for your help with this. If you think of anything else, please
> let me know.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> On 11/12/2016 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>> Maybe it is my tv, I can’t really remember, been out of town for a 
>> funeral, and haven’t watched much TV the last 2 weeks.
>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Terri Stimmel 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Kliphton, and list,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't planning
>>> on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had 

Re: Sling tv

[Brent Harding]

I heard the speculation on Twitter that suggested that DirecTV Now could 
come any week now, the articles suggested by the end of November. Another 
one I'm watching out for is a newcomer called VidGo, whose selling point 
seems to be being able to have the local channels as well. The guy I talked 
with suggested that pricing would be competetive with the other offerings 
around, but it either isn't known yet or varies by area.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kliphton Miller" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Sling tv


I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, and if 
you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t accessible, 
adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to watch now, there is 
a list of channels from left to right.  Now, the channels weren’t read by 
voiceover, but I went threw the channels with my sited children, and wrote 
down the ones I wanted to remember in a note on my iPhone.  After going 
threw them a few times, I remember what each one was.  So, if I wanted to 
watch TBS, I knew it was 14 of 67, if I wanted to watch oxygen, I knew it 
was 34 of 67, and if I wanted to watch USA, I knew it was 18 of 67.  a 
little getting use to, but that method worked for me.  I am only using it 
until direct TV now launches its service next week, once it does, I am gone! 
They will be offering more channels for less. HTH

On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:

When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they 
provide this kind of information so others will know and not go through 
the struggle and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings from others 
when they say something does not work with VoiceOver on any device. I was 
interested in Sling TV until I heard several people say not to waste my 
time.


-Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sling tv

Hello everyone,


I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
trial.


I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.

I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!


So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.


It doesn't work!

I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
come up.


I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
the menu.

So how hard can it be?


I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.


I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
Even if many of you already knew all this.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: Sling tv

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Terri and others,

Apparently this access is important to you so why not take up the cause and try 
to get Sling TV to make this more accessible. This may of course involve more 
than an email via some feedback form or support email, you should find out who 
is CEO of this company and a few other high level positions, then write an 
actual letter, print it out and mail it via registered mail to Sling TV. This 
way the letter needs to be signed for and it will be taken more seriously. Keep 
a journal or log of when you send it and if you receive any replies and when, 
of course keep copies of all correspondence and if there is no reply try and 
take it up with maybe the NFB or whatever other organisations you have, maybe 
see if you find an investigative journalist who would champion this. Here in 
Canada our CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) has a team called "Go 
Public". You can send in information about your issue/fight and if they take it 
they'll write an article in the national news, make calls and contact the 
involved parties. Recently they had the story of a mother who had bought 
accidentl insurance for her child. The girl was now I think 12 or so and 
basically lost the use of one eye in a sports accident. The policy stated there 
should have been a $50,000 payout, but of course there was fine print which 
allowed the insurance company to get out of it (so they thought) and they sent 
the mother a cheque for $8.40 to cover gas and milage for trips to the 
hospital. A few days after the Go Public article came out there was a follow-up 
article saying that hundreds of clients of said insurance company had called in 
to cancel their policies, it was all over social media and a few days after 
that it was reported that the mother and insurance company had settled, the 
amount was not disclosed but the mother said it was a satisfactory result, the 
insurance company apologized and said it was their goal to provide the best 
possible service and so on and so on.
This goes to show the power of the media and especially social media once 
something hits Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. It is of course a lot of work 
and any letter you write must be unfailingly polite, objective and give the 
company (Sling TV) a chance to investigate and respond, it is a lot of work, 
but depending on what your work is and how much time you have it can produce 
real results. If nobody ever did these sorts of things and advocated for 
whatever cause or group we wouldn't be where we are now in terms of 
accessibility and acceptance of various disabilities and minority groups. I'm 
not saying we live in a perfect time, we are far from that, but after all not 
that long ago women and black people couldn't even vote let along run for the 
office of President of the United States.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sling tv

Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list,

Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of this. 
Or I mean, trial.
I asked the man on the phone yesterday, that if for some reason I couldn't 
cancel online, could I call and cancel. He told me yes there would be no 
problem with that, and that I could even email them. So I feel pretty good 
about this.

The sad thing is, both people I have dealt with from that company, have been 
very nice, and polite. They try to be helpful. But they are ignorant in a lot 
of ways. I don't said that to be rude, just speaking the truth.

For instance, when I called last night to see where I could find a listing of 
channels, I got a very nice man on the phone. He wanted to be helpful. I told 
him that I was blind, and he didn't seemed as shocked as the first guy who had 
helped me set up my account.

However, when I told him that I wanted to hopefully find a listing of channels. 
He told me this was possible. I asked him where to go and he said, after you 
see a few pictures, keep going down a bit, and you will see a link for 
channels, and packages. Something like that anyway. I decided to not repeat 
that I was blind, and that I wouldn't see the pictures.
I played around with the site, and I did find where I could view the channel 
listings. It of course doesn't give you a number. But you can find out what is 
available, and what package it is in. I found this all works better with 
Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer for some reason.

And Kliphton, Fox is channel 1 on mine as well. I think channel 4, or 5 is Fox 
Midwest, as I ended up watching a little bit of a hockey game. 
That was cool!

I asked my roommate when he got home last night, if he would go through the 
channels with me, and he said yes. So I am excited about this.

Terri
On 11/13/2016 8:48 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
> yah, that’s it.  I think it depends on your area, my channel 1 is my local 
> fox 

Re: Sling tv

[Kliphton Miller]

Well, I can tell you that sling tv is owned by dish network, so maybe we should 
start there?
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Terri and others,
> 
> Apparently this access is important to you so why not take up the cause and 
> try to get Sling TV to make this more accessible. This may of course involve 
> more than an email via some feedback form or support email, you should find 
> out who is CEO of this company and a few other high level positions, then 
> write an actual letter, print it out and mail it via registered mail to Sling 
> TV. This way the letter needs to be signed for and it will be taken more 
> seriously. Keep a journal or log of when you send it and if you receive any 
> replies and when, of course keep copies of all correspondence and if there is 
> no reply try and take it up with maybe the NFB or whatever other 
> organisations you have, maybe see if you find an investigative journalist who 
> would champion this. Here in Canada our CBC (Canadian Broadcasting 
> Corporation) has a team called "Go Public". You can send in information about 
> your issue/fight and if they take it they'll write an article in the national 
> news, make calls and contact the involved parties. Recently they had the 
> story of a mother who had bought accidentl insurance for her child. The girl 
> was now I think 12 or so and basically lost the use of one eye in a sports 
> accident. The policy stated there should have been a $50,000 payout, but of 
> course there was fine print which allowed the insurance company to get out of 
> it (so they thought) and they sent the mother a cheque for $8.40 to cover gas 
> and milage for trips to the hospital. A few days after the Go Public article 
> came out there was a follow-up article saying that hundreds of clients of 
> said insurance company had called in to cancel their policies, it was all 
> over social media and a few days after that it was reported that the mother 
> and insurance company had settled, the amount was not disclosed but the 
> mother said it was a satisfactory result, the insurance company apologized 
> and said it was their goal to provide the best possible service and so on and 
> so on.
> This goes to show the power of the media and especially social media once 
> something hits Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. It is of course a lot of work 
> and any letter you write must be unfailingly polite, objective and give the 
> company (Sling TV) a chance to investigate and respond, it is a lot of work, 
> but depending on what your work is and how much time you have it can produce 
> real results. If nobody ever did these sorts of things and advocated for 
> whatever cause or group we wouldn't be where we are now in terms of 
> accessibility and acceptance of various disabilities and minority groups. I'm 
> not saying we live in a perfect time, we are far from that, but after all not 
> that long ago women and black people couldn't even vote let along run for the 
> office of President of the United States.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sling tv
> 
> Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list,
> 
> Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of this. 
> Or I mean, trial.
> I asked the man on the phone yesterday, that if for some reason I couldn't 
> cancel online, could I call and cancel. He told me yes there would be no 
> problem with that, and that I could even email them. So I feel pretty good 
> about this.
> 
> The sad thing is, both people I have dealt with from that company, have been 
> very nice, and polite. They try to be helpful. But they are ignorant in a lot 
> of ways. I don't said that to be rude, just speaking the truth.
> 
> For instance, when I called last night to see where I could find a listing of 
> channels, I got a very nice man on the phone. He wanted to be helpful. I told 
> him that I was blind, and he didn't seemed as shocked as the first guy who 
> had helped me set up my account.
> 
> However, when I told him that I wanted to hopefully find a listing of 
> channels. He told me this was possible. I asked him where to go and he said, 
> after you see a few pictures, keep going down a bit, and you will see a link 
> for channels, and packages. Something like that anyway. I decided to not 
> repeat that I was blind, and that I wouldn't see the pictures.
> I played around with the site, and I did find where I could view the channel 
> listings. It of course doesn't give you a number. But you can find out what 
> is available, and what package it is in. I found this all works better with 
> Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer for some reason.
> 
> And Kliphton, Fox is channel 1 on mine as well. I think channel 4, or 5 is 
> Fox Midwest, as I ended up 

Re: Sling tv

[Terri Stimmel]

Hi Kliphton,


No, it's not the way to have to do it. But if it works for now, then 
that's what matters.


I did discover these tabs at one point. I can't remember exactly where I 
was when I discovered them. I think I had a channel on. But I couldn't 
access those either.


In a way, I feel it's just like cable. I couldn't ever watch anything 
on-demand without sighted help, or on pay-per-view. But at least I could 
go right to a channel.


Now what is this thing with Direct tv I'm hearing of?

I don't know how to look it up, or I would. But I don't know what to 
look for.


Thank you,


Terri


On 11/13/2016 10:04 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
> Yes, going threw the channels with someone sited is very helpful.  Should we 
> have to do it?  Of course not, but not everyone makes there apps accessible, 
> so this is the next best thing.  Also, pay attention to the number of 
> channels, they add and remove some from time to time.
>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list,
>>
>> Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of this.
>> Or I mean, trial.
>> I asked the man on the phone yesterday, that if for some reason I
>> couldn't cancel online, could I call and cancel. He told me yes there
>> would be no problem with that, and that I could even email them. So I
>> feel pretty good about this.
>>
>> The sad thing is, both people I have dealt with from that company, have
>> been very nice, and polite. They try to be helpful. But they are
>> ignorant in a lot of ways. I don't said that to be rude, just speaking
>> the truth.
>>
>> For instance, when I called last night to see where I could find a
>> listing of channels, I got a very nice man on the phone. He wanted to be
>> helpful. I told him that I was blind, and he didn't seemed as shocked as
>> the first guy who had helped me set up my account.
>>
>> However, when I told him that I wanted to hopefully find a listing of
>> channels. He told me this was possible. I asked him where to go and he
>> said, after you see a few pictures, keep going down a bit, and you will
>> see a link for channels, and packages. Something like that anyway. I
>> decided to not repeat that I was blind, and that I wouldn't see the
>> pictures.
>> I played around with the site, and I did find where I could view the
>> channel listings. It of course doesn't give you a number. But you can
>> find out what is available, and what package it is in. I found this all
>> works better with Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer for some reason.
>>
>> And Kliphton, Fox is channel 1 on mine as well. I think channel 4, or 5
>> is Fox Midwest, as I ended up watching a little bit of a hockey game.
>> That was cool!
>>
>> I asked my roommate when he got home last night, if he would go through
>> the channels with me, and he said yes. So I am excited about this.
>>
>> Terri
>> On 11/13/2016 8:48 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>>> yah, that’s it.  I think it depends on your area, my channel 1 is my local 
>>> fox channel.
 On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Terri Stimmel  
 wrote:

 Hi Kliphton,


 It's under guide. I played around with it, and found the channels. Of
 course, like you mentioned, it doesn't say what they are. But it lists
 the numbers, and says when I am on one. It says, sellected. I can get
 the channels to play, so far.


 I signed up for the blue, and orange package. I would like to know what
 the orange extra package is, if I plan to keep this.

 By the way, apparently, channel 1 is FX.


 I'm sorry you have been dealing with a loss, and a funeral.


 Thank you for your help with this. If you think of anything else, please
 let me know.


 Thank you,


 Terri


 On 11/12/2016 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
> Maybe it is my tv, I can’t really remember, been out of town for a 
> funeral, and haven’t watched much TV the last 2 weeks.
>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Terri Stimmel 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Kliphton, and list,
>>
>>
>> Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't planning
>> on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had to re-install it.
>>
>> I had some trouble signing in, which I didn't before. So I found that to
>> be a bit odd.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I couldn't find a watch now option. I found my tv, on now,
>> search, settings, and possibly something else. I just can't remember
>> what it was. But I know for sure it wasn't watch now.
>>
>>
>> Here is where things get interesting.
>>
>> I went in to the on now. I slid my finger down, and I was shocked to
>> hear programs being announced. Now I think I could go left and right as
>> well. But I don't remember for sure.
>>
>>

RE: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Don,

I believe you were looking in the wrong place. What you describe is in Settings 
> General > Accessibility > Call Audio Routing.
The place where you have to go if you want to disable automatic switching is 
Settings > General > Accessibility > Voiceover > Audio (it’s between “Braille” 
and “Rotor”.
Turn off “Audio select speaker in call” if you don’t want the call to 
automatically switch to speakerphone.
Description is given as: “During audio calls, automatically switch to the 
speaker when not holding your iPhone to your ear”.
I hope a few others write to Apple Accessibility about this because they should 
just fix it to make it work as it is intended to work because for a blind 
person it is a nice feature if it works correctly.

Regards,
Sieghard




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don Breda
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9


Hi Seigart.



I looked at this setting in IOS10 and it looks like the choices are automatic, 
speaker, or bluetooth headset.



I  see no setting to force it to go and stay on the built in earpiece.



Don



On 10-Nov-16 8:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Richard,



The "Audio" option and the ability to turn off automatic switching to 
speakerphone is a feature which just now became available with iOS 10. If you 
upgrade you can set it to not switch automatically.



Regards,

Sieghard



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard

Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 7:21 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9



Hi Rajmund,

Yes, I am.



- Original Message -

From: "Rajmund" 

To: 

Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:53 AM

Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9





Hi, Are you still on IOS9.x, by any chance?







Sent from a Braille Sense



- Original Message -

From: Richard  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Date: Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:49 pm

Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9







Hi Rajmund,

Thanks for your response,I found VoiceOver,

Settings, General, Accessibility, but in the VoiceOver settings there was

no

Audio.

Is something amiss here?

Thanks,

Rick



- Original Message -

From: "Rajmund" 

To: 

Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:18 AM

Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9





Hi,

Settings,  general, voice over, audio.







Sent from a Braille Sense



- Original Message -

From: Richard  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Date: Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:17 pm

Subject: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9







Is there any way to turn off the speaker phone function on these phones?

It seems that if I don't hold my head or the phone at the right

position,

it

keeps switching .

Personally, I find it very annoying!

Thanks,

Rick



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Is this 1effsible or should I tell a friend of mine to use a different app. 
Thank you. 

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Re: Sprinkler Controller App

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Rachio

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 1:55 PM Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <
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> Kevin,
>
> What brand is the controller?  What is the app?
>
> Pam
>
>
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of
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> I've Rachio linked with Google Home<
> https://madeby.google.com/home/> via IFTTT.
> I've it configured, so I'm able to start/stop sprinklers using my voice
> (e.g. start/turn on zone #) will start a specified zone for 10 mins. Stop
> the water will stop any sprinkler currently running. Not only has this made
> the sprinklers have smart controls that are accessible, but it has resulted
> in a healthier lawn, and cost savings.
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:21 PM Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <
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> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know of any sprinkler system controllers that have an
> accessible app for scheduling the day and time the sprinkler runs, and for
> how long?
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Re: siriumxm app

[Eden]

Hmm no he wants the on-demand content. Is the siriumxm app the only way to go 
then. He'd always like to listen live. Thanks. ghasishy he'd like to do 
anything anyone else would do. 
Eden

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To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone  
Date: Sunday, November 13, 2016 5:37 pm
Subject: Re: siriumxm app

>
>
> Hi. It depends. Does your friend want to listen to on demand programming or 
> use the MySXM feature? If not, Radium is totally accessible with Sirius XM 
> and I recommend it to everyone.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
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Re: Direct tv Now

[Kliphton Miller]

I did see an article that AT will have a save streaming service for there 
customers who have direct TV, or cell service.  I guess it will give them more 
streaming, for less money, I didn’t really read the article, since I have T 
mobile, and unlimited everything, the same with my home internet, I have no cap.
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Kliphton, and list,
> 
> 
> I decided to call Direct tv, just to see if they could tell me anything.
> 
> 
> Of course, as I expected, the lady tried to sale me internet service, 
> and the actual satilite service, saying that I could use their streaming 
> App. I told her that I didn't want that, but I appreciated the offer.
> 
> She even told me that if I couldn't have a satilite where I lived, that 
> I could have it installed at another address. That was an interesting 
> thing to learn, I must admit. I didn't think you could do such a thing.
> 
> But I told her that I don't have friends who would do that. LOL!
> 
> 
> Anyway, she knew nothing about the Direct tv now service. Well she knew 
> of it after she put me on a short hold. But she had absolutely no 
> information on it, and she had know idea as to when it was being released.
> 
> She told me to just watch their website, or call them. Well, ok.
> 
> 
> I did find an article posted a couple of days ago. I honestly can't 
> remember where I found it now. It mentioned the Direct tv Now service 
> was supposed to be released later this week.
> 
> However, apparently the FCC has some concerns. They are concerned that 
> people who have this service will be offered unlimited streaming from A 
> T and T, but will be billed for other streaming services, or not have 
> unlimited data.
> 
> 
> So I guess this will have to be worked out some how. No telling how long 
> that might take.
> 
> 
> I just thought anyone interested, might like to know.
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> On 11/13/2016 12:40 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>> Well, I can tell you that sling tv is owned by dish network, so maybe we 
>> should start there?
>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Terri and others,
>>> 
>>> Apparently this access is important to you so why not take up the cause and 
>>> try to get Sling TV to make this more accessible. This may of course 
>>> involve more than an email via some feedback form or support email, you 
>>> should find out who is CEO of this company and a few other high level 
>>> positions, then write an actual letter, print it out and mail it via 
>>> registered mail to Sling TV. This way the letter needs to be signed for and 
>>> it will be taken more seriously. Keep a journal or log of when you send it 
>>> and if you receive any replies and when, of course keep copies of all 
>>> correspondence and if there is no reply try and take it up with maybe the 
>>> NFB or whatever other organisations you have, maybe see if you find an 
>>> investigative journalist who would champion this. Here in Canada our CBC 
>>> (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) has a team called "Go Public". You can 
>>> send in information about your issue/fight and if they take it they'll 
>>> write an article in the national news, make calls and contact the involved 
>>> parties. Recently they had the story of a mother who had bought accidentl 
>>> insurance for her child. The girl was now I think 12 or so and basically 
>>> lost the use of one eye in a sports accident. The policy stated there 
>>> should have been a $50,000 payout, but of course there was fine print which 
>>> allowed the insurance company to get out of it (so they thought) and they 
>>> sent the mother a cheque for $8.40 to cover gas and milage for trips to the 
>>> hospital. A few days after the Go Public article came out there was a 
>>> follow-up article saying that hundreds of clients of said insurance company 
>>> had called in to cancel their policies, it was all over social media and a 
>>> few days after that it was reported that the mother and insurance company 
>>> had settled, the amount was not disclosed but the mother said it was a 
>>> satisfactory result, the insurance company apologized and said it was their 
>>> goal to provide the best possible service and so on and so on.
>>> This goes to show the power of the media and especially social media once 
>>> something hits Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. It is of course a lot of 
>>> work and any letter you write must be unfailingly polite, objective and 
>>> give the company (Sling TV) a chance to investigate and respond, it is a 
>>> lot of work, but depending on what your work is and how much time you have 
>>> it can produce real results. If nobody ever did these sorts of things and 
>>> advocated for whatever cause or group we wouldn't be where we are now in 
>>> terms of accessibility and acceptance of various disabilities and minority 
>>> groups. I'm not saying we live in a perfect time, we 

iPhone SE unlocks it self

[Michael Amaro]

Hello Listers,

I just today got the iPhone SE iOS 10.  2 questions.  if I pick the phone up 
and it is locked, it unlocks it self.  How can I fix this?  How do I turn off 
backround Ap refresh?  It has been a while.  Would you be so kind as to tell me 
what else i need to turn off to save battery?

thanks

Michael

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Text Messages with Wrong Sender Name,IPhone SE & IOS 9

[Richard]

To all that tried to help me with this problem, thank you very much.
I found and corrected the problem!
On my wife's phone, she had my phone number in her own contact info for some 
reason,
and since alphabetically her name comes before mine in her contact list,
her phone was recognizing my number  associated with her name.
Once she removed my number from her info,the only place for the phone to 
find that number was with my name.
Problem solved!
Based on these results, I would say that the phone identifies the incoming 
number, then performs an alphabetical search of the contacts list
and places the associated name with the number.
At any rate, thanks to everyone that responded to my original post!
Take care,
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Re: Liner Notes

[Esther]

Hi Tom, Richard, and Others,

I listen to a lot of classical music, and these labels typically had/have 
extensive liner notes for their CDs. It turns out that for some of these 
titles you can download the PDF digital booklets from the label's web site. 
 Here's an example: I have an old CD recording of Christopher Herrick 
playing Back Toccata and Fugues on the organ from a Hyperion recording. 
Hyperion is one of the classical record labels that offers PDF digital 
booklets for their music.  Now, it's easiest if I know the CD of the 
recording, which in this case is CDA66434, and type that into the search 
box, but in general I may not know that.  So, I'll type in something like 
"Herrick Bach Toccata and Fugues" and press return on my computer, since 
I'd usually do this on my Mac.  Then, I'd navigate to "Albums" and find the 
two albums listed there.  Mine is the second, older one, so I'd select its 
web page:
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/dc.asp?dc=D_CDA66434

On the album web page, I'd navigate to the link for "Digital booklet (PDF)" 
 and download the booklet.  There's an AppleScript on the AppleScripts for 
iTunes site called PDF Adder:
http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=pdfadder

This will let me use the same tags to add the PDF booklet to my iTunes 
library.

As for why record stores don't provide more digital booklets under iTunes, 
read this article:
http://www.mcelhearn.com/why-record-labels-dont-provide-more-digital-booklets-on-the-itunes-store/

Basically, Apple imposes a specific format for digital booklets.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Esther


On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 3:09:37 PM UTC-10, Richard Turner wrote:
>
> Hi Tom, 
>
> A few, and I really mean a few, albums come with a PDF booklet when you 
> buy them through iTunes Store.  They have some of what you are talking 
> about.  I'm not sure they have everything the old liner notes used to have, 
> or if liner notes are just not as complete as they used to be. 
> The Book of Mormon CD has a booklet.  Many of the songs are shown as 
> "explicit," which is true. 
>  Holly Happy Days, a Christmas album by the Indigo Girls came with a 
> digital booklet.  They are accessible and will download with the album, but 
> you may have to open then in iBooks to get them to show up where you can 
> read them. 
>
> HTH, 
> Richard 
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: vip...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> vip...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tom Lange 
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 4:00 PM 
> To: vip...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Liner Notes 
>
>
>
> Hi all, 
> I use Apple Music on my iPhone a lot and have amassed a huge library 
> including rock, classical, jazz, country, all kinds of good stuff.  It's a 
> fairly eclectic collection.  When I open an album to play it, I notice a 
> button which will show the artwork for the album, which, I presume, 
> includes cover art and the like.  Way, way back when, when I used to buy 
> vinyl albums and CD's, I used to sit down with an Optacon and read the 
> liner notes that came with the album or CD, which was cool because I could 
> look at such things as the personnel on the various tracks and even what 
> kind of musical gear was used, et cetera.  Is there a way to get that kind 
> of information through Apple Music?  I would absolutely love to get access 
> to liner notes if possible. Any ideas? Thanks. 
> Tom 
>   Sent from my iPhone 7 
>
>
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Re: iPhone SE unlocks it self

[Paul Sandoval]

Hi,

You disable the raise to wake option in the display settings.
I hope this helps.


On Nov 13, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Michael Amaro 
> wrote:

gracias amigo

From: Gerardo Corripio
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE unlocks it self

You need to deactivate the Raise to unlock option, but since my 5S doesn't have 
this option, maybe someone with an SE might shed some light?

El 13/11/2016 04:56 p.m., Michael Amaro escribió:
Hello Listers,

I just today got the iPhone SE iOS 10.  2 questions.  if I pick the phone up 
and it is locked, it unlocks it self.  How can I fix this?  How do I turn off 
backround Ap refresh?  It has been a while.  Would you be so kind as to tell me 
what else i need to turn off to save battery?

thanks

Michael

email/skype:

mikeam...@earthlink.net

JFK"

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Re: iPhone SE unlocks it self

[Michael Amaro]

gracias amigo


From: Gerardo Corripio 
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iPhone SE unlocks it self


You need to deactivate the Raise to unlock option, but since my 5S doesn't have 
this option, maybe someone with an SE might shed some light?

El 13/11/2016 04:56 p.m., Michael Amaro escribió: 
  Hello Listers,

  I just today got the iPhone SE iOS 10.  2 questions.  if I pick the phone up 
and it is locked, it unlocks it self.  How can I fix this?  How do I turn off 
backround Ap refresh?  It has been a while.  Would you be so kind as to tell me 
what else i need to turn off to save battery?

  thanks 

  Michael 

  email/skype: 

  mikeam...@earthlink.net 

  JFK" 

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Re: iPhone SE unlocks it self

[Gerardo Corripio]

 You need to deactivate the Raise to unlock option, but since my 5S 
doesn't have this option, maybe someone with an SE might shed some light?


El 13/11/2016 04:56 p.m., Michael Amaro escribió:

Hello Listers,
I just today got the iPhone SE iOS 10.  2 questions.  if I pick the 
phone up and it is locked, it unlocks it self.  How can I fix this?  
How do I turn off backround Ap refresh?  It has been a while.  Would 
you be so kind as to tell me what else i need to turn off to save battery?

thanks
Michael
email/skype:
mikeam...@earthlink.net 
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Re: siriumxm app

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. It depends. Does your friend want to listen to on demand programming or use 
the MySXM feature? If not, Radium is totally accessible with Sirius XM and I 
recommend it to everyone.

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> On Nov 13, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Eden  wrote:
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> Is this 1effsible or should I tell a friend of mine to use a different app. 
> Thank you. 
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Re: siriumxm app

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Yes, unfortunately they'll need to use the native Sirius XM app. Radium doesn't 
have this feature as it only does live content.

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> On Nov 13, 2016, at 7:40 PM, Eden  wrote:
> 
> Hmm no he wants the on-demand content. Is the siriumxm app the only way to go 
> then. He'd always like to listen live. Thanks. ghasishy he'd like to do 
> anything anyone else would do. 
> Eden
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> To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone  
> Date: Sunday, November 13, 2016 5:37 pm
> Subject: Re: siriumxm app
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi. It depends. Does your friend want to listen to on demand programming or 
>> use the MySXM feature? If not, Radium is totally accessible with Sirius XM 
>> and I recommend it to everyone.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Eden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is this 1effsible or should I tell a friend of mine to use a different app. 
>>> Thank you. 
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Re: Sling tv

[Terri Stimmel]

Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list,

Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of this. 
Or I mean, trial.
I asked the man on the phone yesterday, that if for some reason I 
couldn't cancel online, could I call and cancel. He told me yes there 
would be no problem with that, and that I could even email them. So I 
feel pretty good about this.

The sad thing is, both people I have dealt with from that company, have 
been very nice, and polite. They try to be helpful. But they are 
ignorant in a lot of ways. I don't said that to be rude, just speaking 
the truth.

For instance, when I called last night to see where I could find a 
listing of channels, I got a very nice man on the phone. He wanted to be 
helpful. I told him that I was blind, and he didn't seemed as shocked as 
the first guy who had helped me set up my account.

However, when I told him that I wanted to hopefully find a listing of 
channels. He told me this was possible. I asked him where to go and he 
said, after you see a few pictures, keep going down a bit, and you will 
see a link for channels, and packages. Something like that anyway. I 
decided to not repeat that I was blind, and that I wouldn't see the 
pictures.
I played around with the site, and I did find where I could view the 
channel listings. It of course doesn't give you a number. But you can 
find out what is available, and what package it is in. I found this all 
works better with Firefox, rather than Internet Explorer for some reason.

And Kliphton, Fox is channel 1 on mine as well. I think channel 4, or 5 
is Fox Midwest, as I ended up watching a little bit of a hockey game. 
That was cool!

I asked my roommate when he got home last night, if he would go through 
the channels with me, and he said yes. So I am excited about this.

Terri
On 11/13/2016 8:48 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
> yah, that’s it.  I think it depends on your area, my channel 1 is my local 
> fox channel.
>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kliphton,
>>
>>
>> It's under guide. I played around with it, and found the channels. Of
>> course, like you mentioned, it doesn't say what they are. But it lists
>> the numbers, and says when I am on one. It says, sellected. I can get
>> the channels to play, so far.
>>
>>
>> I signed up for the blue, and orange package. I would like to know what
>> the orange extra package is, if I plan to keep this.
>>
>> By the way, apparently, channel 1 is FX.
>>
>>
>> I'm sorry you have been dealing with a loss, and a funeral.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your help with this. If you think of anything else, please
>> let me know.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> Terri
>>
>>
>> On 11/12/2016 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>>> Maybe it is my tv, I can’t really remember, been out of town for a funeral, 
>>> and haven’t watched much TV the last 2 weeks.
 On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Terri Stimmel  
 wrote:

 Hello Kliphton, and list,


 Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't planning
 on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had to re-install it.

 I had some trouble signing in, which I didn't before. So I found that to
 be a bit odd.


 Anyway, I couldn't find a watch now option. I found my tv, on now,
 search, settings, and possibly something else. I just can't remember
 what it was. But I know for sure it wasn't watch now.


 Here is where things get interesting.

 I went in to the on now. I slid my finger down, and I was shocked to
 hear programs being announced. Now I think I could go left and right as
 well. But I don't remember for sure.


 It would tell me the name of the show, but not if it was a movie, or a
 show. Some of it was obvious. It would tell me the tv rating, the start
 time, but unfortunately not the channel. Also, when I entered on an
 option, not sure if it was a movie, it did come up. Once it came up, I
 learned it was an episode of Nashville.


 I just found this interesting, and thought that I would pass this on. I
 think I will fiddle around with it a bit more.


 I wish the website offered a list of channels. But I don't think they do.


 Terri


 On 11/12/2016 9:57 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
> Sorry, if you go in to on now, it doesn’t work, but watch now is where 
> the channels are listed as I stated in my previous message.
>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Kliphton Miller  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, 
>> and if you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t 
>> accessible, adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to 
>> watch now, there is a list of channels from left to right.  Now, the 
>> channels weren’t read by 

Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9

[Don Breda]

Hi Seigart.


I looked at this setting in IOS10 and it looks like the choices are 
automatic, speaker, or bluetooth headset.



I  see no setting to force it to go and stay on the built in earpiece.


Don



On 10-Nov-16 8:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Richard,

The "Audio" option and the ability to turn off automatic switching to 
speakerphone is a feature which just now became available with iOS 10. If you upgrade you 
can set it to not switch automatically.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9

Hi Rajmund,
Yes, I am.

- Original Message -
From: "Rajmund" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9


Hi, Are you still on IOS9.x, by any chance?



Sent from a Braille Sense

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From: Richard  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9



Hi Rajmund,
Thanks for your response,I found VoiceOver,
Settings, General, Accessibility, but in the VoiceOver settings there was
no
Audio.
Is something amiss here?
Thanks,
Rick

- Original Message -
From: "Rajmund" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9


Hi,
Settings,  general, voice over, audio.



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Richard  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:17 pm
Subject: Speaker Phone Function on IPhone SE , IOS 9



Is there any way to turn off the speaker phone function on these phones?
It seems that if I don't hold my head or the phone at the right
position,
it
keeps switching .
Personally, I find it very annoying!
Thanks,
Rick

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Re: question on Voice Dream; was issues with voice dream reader?

[Russ Kiehne]

I’ve been using itunes to transfer large zip files into voice dream reader.  
It’s not easy to do.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: question on Voice Dream; was issues with voice dream reader?

Chip, with the latest iTunes, don’t even think about using it for getting MP3 
books into Voice Dream.  The accessibility of iTunes has gone completely down 
the toilet.

There is a way to transfer zip files with iTunes,  but it now takes a sighted 
person to do it unless you don’t mind a stupidly high number of trials and 
errors.

That is my take on it.  It used to be super easy with iTunes 11 and prior.

 

Take care,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question on Voice Dream; was issues with voice dream reader?

 

Thanks richard.  I’ll give it a try.

 

Also, thanks Dave, but I am not sure how to do this via Itunes without some 
more detailed instructions (I know how to get songs via Itunes moved over, just 
now a group of mp3 files which are a book; I don’t want them to end up in my 
music library.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question on Voice Dream; was issues with voice dream reader?

 

 

Hi Chip,

My favorite way is through DropBox.

Now, if you are using iCloud Drive and iCloud Sync with Voice Dream Reader, be 
aware that large audio files take a very long time to sync, so I would not keep 
them long in your library.

Also, if you have a book in mp3 format that has lots of chapters that are 
separate files, you want to first make sure they are labeled so they will play 
in order, then zip them into a zip file and name the zip file with the name of 
the book.

Then, put that zip file on Dropbox, for example, and then add it to Voice Dream 
from within Voice Dream.

Then, Voice Dream will treat it as a book with each file being a chapter.

It is quite slick.

HTH,

Richard

 

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Nov 10, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:

  Hi,

  Could I ask a question re Voice Dream?  I purchased it because I own a lot of 
books on mp3 files which I'd like to listen to; how do I get them to Voice 
Dream from my pc?

  Thanks,

  Chip



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Maria Chapman
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 7:19 AM
  To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
  Subject: issues with voice dream reader?

  HI.

  i’m having some issues with voice dream reader.

  I am running a 6 s with the latest iOS update.

  Sometimes when I launch voice dream reader, I get a message saying that 
iCloud isn’t available.  Not sure if this is a connection issue.  Nothing will 
play after dismissing the message, until I reboot my phone.

  The more annoying problem though, is this. 
  I have an audio  book which has 4 parts to it.  Each part is about 4 hours 
long.  I’m fine if I play the file straight through, but about an hour before a 
part of the book is about to end,  , If I try to rewind or fast forward I end 
up at odd places in the book.  It’s almost like at certain parts of the file, 
the rewind and fast forward act like I’m skipping by an hour or something.  If 
I skip forward too far, I end up at the next part of the book.  It also doesn’t 
tend to keep my place when it’s at  ,  the particular spot where i’m having 
problems.  I really love this app, but have had to resort to using downcast, as 
if the book is paused at problem spots, it jumps back or forward to the next 
part, and it’s impossible to rewind or forward to find where I was up to.  I 
was just wondering if anyone else has experienced these issues with audio 
books, before I write to the developer.

  thanks
  Maria

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Re: Sling tv

[Kliphton Miller]

I have had  7 day trials, and I was always able to cancel.  You can actually 
cancel it the same day, and it works for the full 7 days.
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 4:30 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> The key question is - are you going to be able to cancel this within that 7 
> day trial theyoffer?
> 
> Offering it is one thing, honouring it is quite another.  I presume they have 
> your card or bank details to play with in the 
> meantime?
> 
> BobH.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terri Stimmel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 12:44 AM
> Subject: Sling tv
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
> than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
> trial.
> 
> 
> I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
> website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
> he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.
> 
> I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
> let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because
> their site gets over-loaded right now, with people trying to sign up. He
> said for some reason, it had accepted my password. That was interesting!
> 
> 
> So I got all set up, and I went and installed Sling on my Apple tv. I
> was hoping it would work, though I had my doubts.
> 
> 
> It doesn't work!
> 
> I could easily sign in. But once I was signed in, I didn't get any sort
> of feedback. So I touched the gesture area, and that got a response.
> Sadly, I could see the menu. But anything I tried to enter on, would not
> come up.
> 
> 
> I really think, and feel that if they would just put some effert in to
> this product, it wouldn't be too difficult to make it more accessible. I
> mean, I know nothing about making a product accessible. But you can read
> the menu.
> 
> So how hard can it be?
> 
> 
> I decided to install the App for my computer. That experience was worse
> than my Apple tv. When I open the program, it's as though there is
> nothing there at all. There isn't even a way to sign in.
> 
> 
> I just thought I would share my thoughts, and experiences with you all.
> Even if many of you already knew all this.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: Sling tv

[Kliphton Miller]

yah, that’s it.  I think it depends on your area, my channel 1 is my local fox 
channel.
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kliphton,
> 
> 
> It's under guide. I played around with it, and found the channels. Of 
> course, like you mentioned, it doesn't say what they are. But it lists 
> the numbers, and says when I am on one. It says, sellected. I can get 
> the channels to play, so far.
> 
> 
> I signed up for the blue, and orange package. I would like to know what 
> the orange extra package is, if I plan to keep this.
> 
> By the way, apparently, channel 1 is FX.
> 
> 
> I'm sorry you have been dealing with a loss, and a funeral.
> 
> 
> Thank you for your help with this. If you think of anything else, please 
> let me know.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> On 11/12/2016 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>> Maybe it is my tv, I can’t really remember, been out of town for a funeral, 
>> and haven’t watched much TV the last 2 weeks.
>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Kliphton, and list,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ok, I decided to play with the Sling TV one more time. I wasn't planning
>>> on it. I had actually un-installed it. So I had to re-install it.
>>> 
>>> I had some trouble signing in, which I didn't before. So I found that to
>>> be a bit odd.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I couldn't find a watch now option. I found my tv, on now,
>>> search, settings, and possibly something else. I just can't remember
>>> what it was. But I know for sure it wasn't watch now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here is where things get interesting.
>>> 
>>> I went in to the on now. I slid my finger down, and I was shocked to
>>> hear programs being announced. Now I think I could go left and right as
>>> well. But I don't remember for sure.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It would tell me the name of the show, but not if it was a movie, or a
>>> show. Some of it was obvious. It would tell me the tv rating, the start
>>> time, but unfortunately not the channel. Also, when I entered on an
>>> option, not sure if it was a movie, it did come up. Once it came up, I
>>> learned it was an episode of Nashville.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just found this interesting, and thought that I would pass this on. I
>>> think I will fiddle around with it a bit more.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wish the website offered a list of channels. But I don't think they do.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Terri
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/12/2016 9:57 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
 Sorry, if you go in to on now, it doesn’t work, but watch now is where the 
 channels are listed as I stated in my previous message.
> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> I tried it, and it is usable depending on how much patients you have, and 
> if you are willing to try different methods.  Watch now wasn’t 
> accessible, adding favorites wasn’t accessible, but if you go in to watch 
> now, there is a list of channels from left to right.  Now, the channels 
> weren’t read by voiceover, but I went threw the channels with my sited 
> children, and wrote down the ones I wanted to remember in a note on my 
> iPhone.  After going threw them a few times, I remember what each one 
> was.  So, if I wanted to watch TBS, I knew it was 14 of 67, if I wanted 
> to watch oxygen, I knew it was 34 of 67, and if I wanted to watch USA, I 
> knew it was 18 of 67.  a little getting use to, but that method worked 
> for me.  I am only using it until direct TV now launches its service next 
> week, once it does, I am gone!  They will be offering more channels for 
> less. HTH
>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 10:07 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> 
>> When blind people tell others that something is not accessible, they 
>> provide this kind of information so others will know and not go through 
>> the struggle and stress themselves. I tend to hede warnings from others 
>> when they say something does not work with VoiceOver on any device. I 
>> was interested in Sling TV until I heard several people say not to waste 
>> my time.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Sling tv
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I have heard that Sling tv is not accessible. I have heard this more
>> than once. But I was curious to try it out, because they offer a 7 day
>> trial.
>> 
>> 
>> I had a little bit of a problem getting my account set up on the
>> website, so I called the phone number. The man I talked to was nice, but
>> he really did seem rather shocked, when I told him I was totally blind.
>> 
>> I informed him that I tried to sign up on the site, but that it wouldn't
>> let me submit my information. He told me that this can happen, because

RE: Sprinkler Controller App

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Kevin,

What brand is the controller?  What is the app?

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Kevin 
Chao [kevincha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sprinkler Controller App

I've Rachio linked with Google 
Home via IFTTT.
I've it configured, so I'm able to start/stop sprinklers using my voice (e.g. 
start/turn on zone #) will start a specified zone for 10 mins. Stop the water 
will stop any sprinkler currently running. Not only has this made the 
sprinklers have smart controls that are accessible, but it has resulted in a 
healthier lawn, and cost savings.

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:21 PM Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
> 
wrote:
Hi All,

Does anyone know of any sprinkler system controllers that have an accessible 
app for scheduling the day and time the sprinkler runs, and for how long?

Thanks.

Pam

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Re: Sling tv

[Terri Stimmel]

Well, I didn't know that. This is good to know. Although, I think dish network 
is less accessible than DirecTV. But I could be wrong about this. I had DirecTV 
for a while, several years back. But I've never had dish TV.
So anyone's input on how accessible ditch is, would be good to know. That might 
tell us a lot as to what to do concerning sling TV, if we do anything.

Terri

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On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:40 PM -0600, "Kliphton Miller" 
> wrote:

Well, I can tell you that sling tv is owned by dish network, so maybe we should 
start there?
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Hi Terri and others,
>
> Apparently this access is important to you so why not take up the cause and 
> try to get Sling TV to make this more accessible. This may of course involve 
> more than an email via some feedback form or support email, you should find 
> out who is CEO of this company and a few other high level positions, then 
> write an actual letter, print it out and mail it via registered mail to Sling 
> TV. This way the letter needs to be signed for and it will be taken more 
> seriously. Keep a journal or log of when you send it and if you receive any 
> replies and when, of course keep copies of all correspondence and if there is 
> no reply try and take it up with maybe the NFB or whatever other 
> organisations you have, maybe see if you find an investigative journalist who 
> would champion this. Here in Canada our CBC (Canadian Broadcasting 
> Corporation) has a team called "Go Public". You can send in information about 
> your issue/fight and if they take it they'll write an article in the national 
> news, make calls and contact the involved parties. Recently they had the 
> story of a mother who had bought accidentl insurance for her child. The girl 
> was now I think 12 or so and basically lost the use of one eye in a sports 
> accident. The policy stated there should have been a $50,000 payout, but of 
> course there was fine print which allowed the insurance company to get out of 
> it (so they thought) and they sent the mother a cheque for $8.40 to cover gas 
> and milage for trips to the hospital. A few days after the Go Public article 
> came out there was a follow-up article saying that hundreds of clients of 
> said insurance company had called in to cancel their policies, it was all 
> over social media and a few days after that it was reported that the mother 
> and insurance company had settled, the amount was not disclosed but the 
> mother said it was a satisfactory result, the insurance company apologized 
> and said it was their goal to provide the best possible service and so on and 
> so on.
> This goes to show the power of the media and especially social media once 
> something hits Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. It is of course a lot of work 
> and any letter you write must be unfailingly polite, objective and give the 
> company (Sling TV) a chance to investigate and respond, it is a lot of work, 
> but depending on what your work is and how much time you have it can produce 
> real results. If nobody ever did these sorts of things and advocated for 
> whatever cause or group we wouldn't be where we are now in terms of 
> accessibility and acceptance of various disabilities and minority groups. I'm 
> not saying we live in a perfect time, we are far from that, but after all not 
> that long ago women and black people couldn't even vote let along run for the 
> office of President of the United States.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sling tv
>
> Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list,
>
> Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of this.
> Or I mean, trial.
> I asked the man on the phone yesterday, that if for some reason I couldn't 
> cancel online, could I call and cancel. He told me yes there would be no 
> problem with that, and that I could even email them. So I feel pretty good 
> about this.
>
> The sad thing is, both people I have dealt with from that company, have been 
> very nice, and polite. They try to be helpful. But they are ignorant in a lot 
> of ways. I don't said that to be rude, just speaking the truth.
>
> For instance, when I called last night to see where I could find a listing of 
> channels, I got a very nice man on the phone. He wanted to be helpful. I told 
> him that I was blind, and he didn't seemed as shocked as the first guy who 
> had helped me set up my account.
>
> However, when I told him that I wanted to hopefully find a listing of 
> channels. He told me this was possible. I asked him where to go and he said, 
> after you see a few pictures, keep going down a bit, and you will see a link 
> for 

Direct tv Now

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello Kliphton, and list,


I decided to call Direct tv, just to see if they could tell me anything.


Of course, as I expected, the lady tried to sale me internet service, 
and the actual satilite service, saying that I could use their streaming 
App. I told her that I didn't want that, but I appreciated the offer.

She even told me that if I couldn't have a satilite where I lived, that 
I could have it installed at another address. That was an interesting 
thing to learn, I must admit. I didn't think you could do such a thing.

But I told her that I don't have friends who would do that. LOL!


Anyway, she knew nothing about the Direct tv now service. Well she knew 
of it after she put me on a short hold. But she had absolutely no 
information on it, and she had know idea as to when it was being released.

She told me to just watch their website, or call them. Well, ok.


I did find an article posted a couple of days ago. I honestly can't 
remember where I found it now. It mentioned the Direct tv Now service 
was supposed to be released later this week.

However, apparently the FCC has some concerns. They are concerned that 
people who have this service will be offered unlimited streaming from A 
T and T, but will be billed for other streaming services, or not have 
unlimited data.


So I guess this will have to be worked out some how. No telling how long 
that might take.


I just thought anyone interested, might like to know.


Terri


On 11/13/2016 12:40 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
> Well, I can tell you that sling tv is owned by dish network, so maybe we 
> should start there?
>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Terri and others,
>>
>> Apparently this access is important to you so why not take up the cause and 
>> try to get Sling TV to make this more accessible. This may of course involve 
>> more than an email via some feedback form or support email, you should find 
>> out who is CEO of this company and a few other high level positions, then 
>> write an actual letter, print it out and mail it via registered mail to 
>> Sling TV. This way the letter needs to be signed for and it will be taken 
>> more seriously. Keep a journal or log of when you send it and if you receive 
>> any replies and when, of course keep copies of all correspondence and if 
>> there is no reply try and take it up with maybe the NFB or whatever other 
>> organisations you have, maybe see if you find an investigative journalist 
>> who would champion this. Here in Canada our CBC (Canadian Broadcasting 
>> Corporation) has a team called "Go Public". You can send in information 
>> about your issue/fight and if they take it they'll write an article in the 
>> national news, make calls and contact the involved parties. Recently they 
>> had the story of a mother who had bought accidentl insurance for her child. 
>> The girl was now I think 12 or so and basically lost the use of one eye in a 
>> sports accident. The policy stated there should have been a $50,000 payout, 
>> but of course there was fine print which allowed the insurance company to 
>> get out of it (so they thought) and they sent the mother a cheque for $8.40 
>> to cover gas and milage for trips to the hospital. A few days after the Go 
>> Public article came out there was a follow-up article saying that hundreds 
>> of clients of said insurance company had called in to cancel their policies, 
>> it was all over social media and a few days after that it was reported that 
>> the mother and insurance company had settled, the amount was not disclosed 
>> but the mother said it was a satisfactory result, the insurance company 
>> apologized and said it was their goal to provide the best possible service 
>> and so on and so on.
>> This goes to show the power of the media and especially social media once 
>> something hits Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. It is of course a lot of 
>> work and any letter you write must be unfailingly polite, objective and give 
>> the company (Sling TV) a chance to investigate and respond, it is a lot of 
>> work, but depending on what your work is and how much time you have it can 
>> produce real results. If nobody ever did these sorts of things and advocated 
>> for whatever cause or group we wouldn't be where we are now in terms of 
>> accessibility and acceptance of various disabilities and minority groups. 
>> I'm not saying we live in a perfect time, we are far from that, but after 
>> all not that long ago women and black people couldn't even vote let along 
>> run for the office of President of the United States.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Terri Stimmel
>> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 7:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Sling tv
>>
>> Hi Bob, Kliphton, and list,
>>
>> Yes Bob, I will be able to cancel my subscription. I made sure of 

Sprinkler Controller App

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi All,

Does anyone know of any sprinkler system controllers that have an accessible 
app for scheduling the day and time the sprinkler runs, and for how long?

Thanks.

Pam

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Re: Sprinkler Controller App

[Kevin Chao]

I've Rachio  linked with Google Home
 via IFTTT .
I've it configured, so I'm able to start/stop sprinklers using my voice
(e.g. start/turn on zone #) will start a specified zone for 10 mins. Stop
the water will stop any sprinkler currently running. Not only has this made
the sprinklers have smart controls that are accessible, but it has resulted
in a healthier lawn, and cost savings.

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:21 PM Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <
pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know of any sprinkler system controllers that have an
> accessible app for scheduling the day and time the sprinkler runs, and for
> how long?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Pam
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Re: Sprinkler Controller App

[Mary Otten]

If a device relies on IFT TT, it should work with Alexa as well as it works 
with Google home. If you have an Alexa enabled device, you don't need to 
purchase a Google home. I don't know anything about any Apple HomeKit enabled 
sprinkler controllers, since that isn't something I need and haven't looked 
into. Just remember that Google home is very new on the market, so if you 
already have something such as an echo or an Apple device, you should check 
into it and not just go buy a device you may not need for this purpose.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Kevin is flogging Google stuff as usual, I believe he is referring to 
> something he set up with the Google Home Speaker (Google's version of the 
> Amazon Echo) and he is using IFTTT to control it.
> I'm sure there are also home kit capable controllers and apps for this which 
> will work with your iOS device.
> Sorry if I am not researching this further, from now until March any 
> sprinkler where I live would at best produce ice cubes and even in July and 
> August I rarely need to water the lawn, it can get to be in the 90's here as 
> well, but then again if I don't water it I won't have to cut the grass as 
> often *smile*.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 1:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sprinkler Controller App
> 
> Kevin,
> 
> What brand is the controller?  What is the app?
> 
> Pam
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Kevin 
> Chao [kevincha...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 3:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sprinkler Controller App
> 
> I've Rachio linked with Google 
> Home via IFTTT.
> I've it configured, so I'm able to start/stop sprinklers using my voice (e.g. 
> start/turn on zone #) will start a specified zone for 10 mins. Stop the water 
> will stop any sprinkler currently running. Not only has this made the 
> sprinklers have smart controls that are accessible, but it has resulted in a 
> healthier lawn, and cost savings.
> 
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:21 PM Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
> > 
> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Does anyone know of any sprinkler system controllers that have an accessible 
> app for scheduling the day and time the sprinkler runs, and for how long?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Pam
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RE: Sprinkler Controller App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Kevin is flogging Google stuff as usual, I believe he is referring to something 
he set up with the Google Home Speaker (Google's version of the Amazon Echo) 
and he is using IFTTT to control it.
I'm sure there are also home kit capable controllers and apps for this which 
will work with your iOS device.
Sorry if I am not researching this further, from now until March any sprinkler 
where I live would at best produce ice cubes and even in July and August I 
rarely need to water the lawn, it can get to be in the 90's here as well, but 
then again if I don't water it I won't have to cut the grass as often *smile*.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sprinkler Controller App

Kevin,

What brand is the controller?  What is the app?

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Kevin 
Chao [kevincha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sprinkler Controller App

I've Rachio linked with Google 
Home via IFTTT.
I've it configured, so I'm able to start/stop sprinklers using my voice (e.g. 
start/turn on zone #) will start a specified zone for 10 mins. Stop the water 
will stop any sprinkler currently running. Not only has this made the 
sprinklers have smart controls that are accessible, but it has resulted in a 
healthier lawn, and cost savings.

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:21 PM Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
> 
wrote:
Hi All,

Does anyone know of any sprinkler system controllers that have an accessible 
app for scheduling the day and time the sprinkler runs, and for how long?

Thanks.

Pam

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RE: Sprinkler Controller App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As per the Amazon description it does work with Amazon Echo as well as Nest 
(which basically means Google) and some other major platforms.
I still believe Home Kit will be a major player in the home automation category 
and that we'll see a lot more devices in the months and years to come.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sprinkler Controller App

If a device relies on IFT TT, it should work with Alexa as well as it works 
with Google home. If you have an Alexa enabled device, you don't need to 
purchase a Google home. I don't know anything about any Apple HomeKit enabled 
sprinkler controllers, since that isn't something I need and haven't looked 
into. Just remember that Google home is very new on the market, so if you 
already have something such as an echo or an Apple device, you should check 
into it and not just go buy a device you may not need for this purpose.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Kevin is flogging Google stuff as usual, I believe he is referring to 
> something he set up with the Google Home Speaker (Google's version of the 
> Amazon Echo) and he is using IFTTT to control it.
> I'm sure there are also home kit capable controllers and apps for this which 
> will work with your iOS device.
> Sorry if I am not researching this further, from now until March any 
> sprinkler where I live would at best produce ice cubes and even in July and 
> August I rarely need to water the lawn, it can get to be in the 90's here as 
> well, but then again if I don't water it I won't have to cut the grass as 
> often *smile*.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 1:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sprinkler Controller App
> 
> Kevin,
> 
> What brand is the controller?  What is the app?
> 
> Pam
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Kevin 
> Chao [kevincha...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 3:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sprinkler Controller App
> 
> I've Rachio linked with Google 
> Home via IFTTT.
> I've it configured, so I'm able to start/stop sprinklers using my voice (e.g. 
> start/turn on zone #) will start a specified zone for 10 mins. Stop the water 
> will stop any sprinkler currently running. Not only has this made the 
> sprinklers have smart controls that are accessible, but it has resulted in a 
> healthier lawn, and cost savings.
> 
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:21 PM Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
> > 
> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Does anyone know of any sprinkler system controllers that have an accessible 
> app for scheduling the day and time the sprinkler runs, and for how long?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Pam
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RE: Sprinkler Controller App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Pamela,

OK, so I am naturally curious about tech gadgets and I looked up Rachio. I 
guess I owe Kevin a bit of an apology since it doesn't seem to be totally a 
Google gadget, but we all know Kevin is a Google Guy *smile*.
Rachio does have an iOS app, but it does not support Home Kit. Here is some 
information from the description on Amazon.com:

• Connect with top smart home platforms. Extend your smart home out into the 
yard. Rachio directly integrates with the best connected home platforms (Amazon
Echo / Dot, IFTTT, Nest, and more), so you have more options and more control. 
• Easy installation. Replace your current controller in 30 minutes or less. 
Works with any sprinkler system, no special tools or expertise required. 
Connects
with your home Wi-Fi.

It does get good ratings and while I don't know what is expensive, this doesn't 
sound too expensive to me at $195 for an 8-zone controller and $230 for a 
16-zone controller.
Of course I have no idea as to whether the iOS app is accessible or not.

Here is a good review of this controller from an Apple perspective, it 
basically mentions a number of Pros and only 2 Cons, lack of 5 Ghz support and 
lack of Home Kit support:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/06/28/review-rachios-iphone-connected-smart-sprinkler-controller-is-efficient-easy-to-use

If you Google "Home Kit enabled sprinkler controller" you'll find some other 
options which are probably worthwhile checking out.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sprinkler Controller App

Kevin,

What brand is the controller?  What is the app?

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Kevin 
Chao [kevincha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sprinkler Controller App

I've Rachio linked with Google 
Home via IFTTT.
I've it configured, so I'm able to start/stop sprinklers using my voice (e.g. 
start/turn on zone #) will start a specified zone for 10 mins. Stop the water 
will stop any sprinkler currently running. Not only has this made the 
sprinklers have smart controls that are accessible, but it has resulted in a 
healthier lawn, and cost savings.

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:21 PM Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
> 
wrote:
Hi All,

Does anyone know of any sprinkler system controllers that have an accessible 
app for scheduling the day and time the sprinkler runs, and for how long?

Thanks.

Pam

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Re: iPhone SE unlocks it self

[Michael Amaro]

yes it sure does.

thanks

Michael

email/skype:

mikeam...@earthlink.net

iPhone email:

mikeam...@icloud.com

JFK"

What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax 
Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of 
the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace - - 
the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living -- the kind that 
enables man and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for 
their children - - not merely peace for Americans by peace for all men and 
women - - not merely peace in our time but peace for all time."



From: Paul Sandoval 
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iPhone SE unlocks it self


Hi, 


You disable the raise to wake option in the display settings.
I hope this helps.




  On Nov 13, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Michael Amaro  wrote:


  gracias amigo


  From: Gerardo Corripio 
  Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 3:08 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: iPhone SE unlocks it self


  You need to deactivate the Raise to unlock option, but since my 5S doesn't 
have this option, maybe someone with an SE might shed some light?

  El 13/11/2016 04:56 p.m., Michael Amaro escribió: 
Hello Listers,

I just today got the iPhone SE iOS 10.  2 questions.  if I pick the phone 
up and it is locked, it unlocks it self.  How can I fix this?  How do I turn 
off backround Ap refresh?  It has been a while.  Would you be so kind as to 
tell me what else i need to turn off to save battery?

thanks 

Michael 

email/skype: 

mikeam...@earthlink.net 

JFK" 

What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax 
Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of 
the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace - - 
the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living -- the kind that 
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their children - - not merely peace for Americans by peace for all men and 
women - - not merely peace in our time but peace for all time."

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RE: Accessible Apps for buying, saling, or even looking for housing?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Terri,

Yes, there is a marvelously VoiceOver accessible app which you may use.

I will paste in the text of my original post on this app, below my signature.  

This is one of my favorite apps.  I use it weekly.  The developers are very 
careful not to break VoiceOver accessibility and for that, I always thank them.

Good luck on your search,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Here is a Great VoiceOver iOS App for Browsing Craig's List

Hello Everyone, 

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list. 

The other day, I was supporting a friend on her iOS device and discovered that 
she had downloaded this marvelous Craig's List app that just happens to work 
wonderfully with VoiceOver.

I am going to paste in the link to the free version of the app but there is an 
ads-free version available, as well.

Daily Craigslist App (Free Version) - Mobile Shopping & Classifieds by Lifelike 
Apps, Inc https://appsto.re/us/0ClkA.i

Enjoy,

Mark


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 4:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible Apps for buying, saling, or even looking for housing?

Hello everyone,


I usually use Craigslist on my laptop, if I want to sale something locally, or 
if I want to purchase something. I have even found apartments this way.


I guess it's been a week since I last went to the site. I went there about an 
hour ago, as I would like to find another apartment.

However, the site was strange, and didn't make sense. When I went to view 
apartments, I saw all these numbers, instead of links that said 1 bedroom 
apartment, and so on. I tried to enter on one of the links. But from what I 
could tell, nothing happened. So I am not sure what is going on.


I tell you all this long story for a reason.


Is there an app for Craigslist, that works with the Iphone, or Ipad?

How accessible might it be?


Also, if there isn't an App for Craigslist, are there other accessible Apps 
that offer apartment, or roommate listings, as well as other things. Such as 
computer stuff, and the like?


I have a sighted friend who uses offer-up, though I know this doesn't have a 
housing section.

I tried this on my Iphone a couple of months ago, and unfortunately it didn't 
seem accessible at all.


I mainly want a site that will offer a range of housing options, but 
more with private landlords. I don't like big management companies. 
That's a personal choice.


If anyone has any ideas for me, I would really appreciate hearing from you.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: Accessible Apps for buying, saling, or even looking for housing?

[Cristóbal]

I'm always buying/selling onCL and this is the app I use. Completely accessible.
The posting/reposting  could  be a bit  more streamlined, but  that's probably 
more a function of CL than  anything else. It is  my go-to CL app by far.  I 
don't even  bother messing around with  other apps.

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M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible Apps for buying, saling, or even looking for housing?

Hello Terri,

Yes, there is a marvelously VoiceOver accessible app which you may use.

I will paste in the text of my original post on this app, below my signature.  

This is one of my favorite apps.  I use it weekly.  The developers are very 
careful not to break VoiceOver accessibility and for that, I always thank them.

Good luck on your search,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Here is a Great VoiceOver iOS App for Browsing Craig's List

Hello Everyone, 

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list. 

The other day, I was supporting a friend on her iOS device and discovered that 
she had downloaded this marvelous Craig's List app that just happens to work 
wonderfully with VoiceOver.

I am going to paste in the link to the free version of the app but there is an 
ads-free version available, as well.

Daily Craigslist App (Free Version) - Mobile Shopping & Classifieds by Lifelike 
Apps, Inc https://appsto.re/us/0ClkA.i

Enjoy,

Mark


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 4:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible Apps for buying, saling, or even looking for housing?

Hello everyone,


I usually use Craigslist on my laptop, if I want to sale something locally, or 
if I want to purchase something. I have even found apartments this way.


I guess it's been a week since I last went to the site. I went there about an 
hour ago, as I would like to find another apartment.

However, the site was strange, and didn't make sense. When I went to view 
apartments, I saw all these numbers, instead of links that said 1 bedroom 
apartment, and so on. I tried to enter on one of the links. But from what I 
could tell, nothing happened. So I am not sure what is going on.


I tell you all this long story for a reason.


Is there an app for Craigslist, that works with the Iphone, or Ipad?

How accessible might it be?


Also, if there isn't an App for Craigslist, are there other accessible Apps 
that offer apartment, or roommate listings, as well as other things. Such as 
computer stuff, and the like?


I have a sighted friend who uses offer-up, though I know this doesn't have a 
housing section.

I tried this on my Iphone a couple of months ago, and unfortunately it didn't 
seem accessible at all.


I mainly want a site that will offer a range of housing options, but 
more with private landlords. I don't like big management companies. 
That's a personal choice.


If anyone has any ideas for me, I would really appreciate hearing from you.


Thank you,


Terri

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