Re: [WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer
Helmut Granda wrote: Jay, Thanks for your explanation and your recommendation, I didn't think of using IE7 as SA (I didn't even knew it was available). I am aware that I'm running a Beta and all of the technical difficulties that could come with using Beta software. But I'm not too concerned since I don't use IE as my primary Browser; actually I use FF for work and Opera for personal usage. Thanks again! ...helmut The solution, explanation and script are located here: http://weblogs.asp.net/jgalloway/archive/2005/12/28/434132.aspx To install the ie7 as a standalone try here: http://www.sitepoint.com/newsletter/viewissue.php?id=5&issue=18 Scroll down for the instructions. I also found a link that has both above links included on the same article here: http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/12/standalone-ie7-the-fix/ ATB, Jay -- Jay Gilmore Developer / Consultant SmashingRed Web & Marketing P] 902.529.0651 E] [EMAIL PROTECTED] U] http://www.smashingred.com B] http://www.smashingred.com/blog ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer
Jay, Thanks for your explanation and your recommendation, I didn't think of using IE7 as SA (I didn't even knew it was available). I am aware that I'm running a Beta and all of the technical difficulties that could come with using Beta software. But I'm not too concerned since I don't use IE as my primary Browser; actually I use FF for work and Opera for personal usage. Thanks again! ...helmut > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jay Gilmore > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:34 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer > > Helmut Granda wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a stand alone IE6 installer anywhere? > > Similar to IE4 and IE5. I am running IE7 and I really don't want to > > uninstall just to test couple of sites on IE6. > > > > > > > > ...helmut > > > > > > > Helmut, > > What you are running is a preview release of IE7 Beta 2 not even Beta 2. > If the MIX06 release is out then you are running Beta 2 but the MS IE > blog has made many attempts to explain that there are still changes > coming. In addition it will not be in General Availability till 2007. > There are lots of great articles about running IE7 as a standalone and > solution that I am using has a batch file that fixes a registry entry > that will screw up your IE 6 when they are run on the same machine. > > I would strongly suggest that you switch back to IE6 and use a SA > version of the IE7 release that is out now. > > Just my opinion. > > All the best, > > Jay > > -- > Jay Gilmore > Developer / Consultant > SmashingRed Web & Marketing > P] 902.529.0651 > E] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > U] http://www.smashingred.com > B] http://www.smashingred.com/blog > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer
Wow that was fast! Thanks I had been looking for this for days now. ...helmut > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Christian Montoya > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:30 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer > > On 3/17/06, Helmut Granda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Does anyone know if there is a stand alone IE6 installer anywhere? > Similar > > to IE4 and IE5. I am running IE7 and I really don't want to uninstall > just > > to test couple of sites on IE6. > > http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/standalone > > the last one is the one you want: ie6eolas_nt.zip > > -- > -- > Christian Montoya > christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer
Helmut Granda wrote: Does anyone know if there is a stand alone IE6 installer anywhere? Similar to IE4 and IE5. I am running IE7 and I really don’t want to uninstall just to test couple of sites on IE6. ...helmut Helmut, What you are running is a preview release of IE7 Beta 2 not even Beta 2. If the MIX06 release is out then you are running Beta 2 but the MS IE blog has made many attempts to explain that there are still changes coming. In addition it will not be in General Availability till 2007. There are lots of great articles about running IE7 as a standalone and solution that I am using has a batch file that fixes a registry entry that will screw up your IE 6 when they are run on the same machine. I would strongly suggest that you switch back to IE6 and use a SA version of the IE7 release that is out now. Just my opinion. All the best, Jay -- Jay Gilmore Developer / Consultant SmashingRed Web & Marketing P] 902.529.0651 E] [EMAIL PROTECTED] U] http://www.smashingred.com B] http://www.smashingred.com/blog ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer
On 3/17/06, Helmut Granda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a stand alone IE6 installer anywhere? Similar > to IE4 and IE5. I am running IE7 and I really don't want to uninstall just > to test couple of sites on IE6. http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/standalone the last one is the one you want: ie6eolas_nt.zip -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer
Does anyone know if there is a stand alone IE6 installer anywhere? Similar to IE4 and IE5. I am running IE7 and I really don’t want to uninstall just to test couple of sites on IE6. ...helmut
Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title
Richard Czeiger wrote: Can I get a consensus that this is actually the right way to do it? It feels right, but I'd like the opinion of my venerable peers :o) Looks right to me. Note that in a large site with a lot of form pages (online banking, for example) putting meaningful IDs for all the inputs is wasted effort. They just need to be unique and to correlate with the appropriate label. For speed, I use sequentially numbered IDs for radios or checkboxes; r1, r2, r3. I find it makes the process much faster on autopilot, as it were. Otherwise you spend at least half your time thinking up names that don't suck... If the other inputs already have meaningful ids (Dreamweaver can insert then automatically when you name them, for instance) I'd use the default ones, otherwise I'd use something like t1, t2, t3 and so on for those too. Cheers Ian -- _ zStudio - Web development and accessibility http://zStudio.co.uk Snippetz.net - Online code library File, manage and re-use your code snippets & links http://snippetz.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] maximum backward compartible to mobile phone (WAP) users? Which XHTML DTD?
I fear not, I have to admit. Mostly, I've been following the mailing list for the last year or so and, while nobody states this explicitly (most of the messages are about server config issues for the WALL thing), everybody with a live site seems to talk and behave like this was the case. Server stats are rarely on the forefront, and even then the assumption seems to be that they're not to be extrapolated and make sense only for their geographic area and a narrow set of phone companies. The phone model is, to all practical effects, used as an alias for the phone/browser combo. Further, I've gone at some depth into that XML capabilities file, where the User Agent string is the variable you query to retrieve the phone/browser combo details. User agent strings almost always consist of a manufacturer's brand/model/version string followed by the browser string. Now, almost all phone models are present with a single entry, while some popular phones present with different browsers seems rather the case when phone companies buy handsets in bulk and add (personalize) a browser of their choice (recognizable because they add their name in front of the string). My (personal and unsupported) view on all this is that end users just don't care to have the latest and greatest browser 'cause they see the whole mobile web experience as secondary to their desktop browsing (something just like me checking mozilla.org often, while upgrading Linx once a year at best, if at all). djn Jon Tan wrote: Dejan Kozina wrote: [...] phone owners just do not upgrade their browsers. They're far more likely to buy a new phone that to mess with the handset's preinstalled software. [...] Very interesting and informative reply Dejan, thank you. We've been discussing mobile content publishing for (ironically) a mobile phone provider to deliver content to their own employees - the user behaviour you describe sounds reasonable but if you have any data to support your statement could you let me know? I'm particularly interested in Opera downloads or usage where Opera is not the default device browser. Thanks Jon Tan www.gr0w.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** -- Dejan Kozina Dolina 346 (TS) - I-34018 Italy tel./fax: +39 040 228 436 - cell.: +39 348 7355 225 http://www.kozina.com/ - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] .net question-tabular data
On 3/17/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi ben, > one more thing. > i have a big project on the horizon, i have to reformat this site with > webstandards > http://www.donegaldirect.com/ > > As you can see there is a lot of feeds and lists, > Would you consider tables for any of the conten on this site? > There are a lot of pages that have content thats in the grey area between > tabular data and lists. > I was going to go the no table route, maybe i should re-think. > > I ask because i was suprised that you said that the special offers on the > other > site was tabular data. > > -best > kevin Yeah, you're right. Those special offers... it's difficult. In my opinion, if they're going to remain presented the way they are now, they should be marked up as unordered lists. But some of them could easily be restructured to be displayed in table form because each list item contains bits of information that could be put into columns - e.g., deal description, location and rate. One thing's for sure, the local entertainment on the "what's on" page should be a table. I'm no expert. I just go according to my gut feeling. If it looks like a table with columns and rows and the content seems like tabular data i.e., the columns look like a list of values for the each row or vice versa not just stuff entered into a grid, then it's probably safe to assume it should be marked up as a table. If you'd just put the content in a table with one row or column, then it should probably be a list. There'll definitely be less tags - just an instead of a and for each item. -- Ben Wong e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://blog.onehero.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] .net question-tabular data
hi ben, one more thing. i have a big project on the horizon, i have to reformat this site with webstandards http://www.donegaldirect.com/ As you can see there is a lot of feeds and lists, Would you consider tables for any of the conten on this site? There are a lot of pages that have content thats in the grey area between tabular data and lists. I was going to go the no table route, maybe i should re-think. I ask because i was suprised that you said that the special offers on the other site was tabular data. -best kevin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
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Re: [WSG] .net question
No worries. You might find some useful articles at www.aspnetresources.com. Milan is _the_ man when it comes to ASP.NET and web standards. Agreed, Peter. ASP.NET 2.0 is a big step forward in the right direction. On 3/17/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Peter, and Ben, for great insight. > I will try to a collaborative aproach with the developer. > > I know that a in a previous situation with another developer we used > repeaters to output standards code, > i would like to be able to stick css possitioning into a form repeater for > him. im not even sure exactly on the difference between a repeater and a > control but im reading up on the msdn site, > Building ASP.NET 2.0 Web Sites Using Web Standards and asp.net for > designers. > > ill let you know how i get on > thanks again > -kevin > > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > > -- Ben Wong e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://blog.onehero.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] .net question
Thanks Peter, and Ben, for great insight. I will try to a collaborative aproach with the developer. I know that a in a previous situation with another developer we used repeaters to output standards code, i would like to be able to stick css possitioning into a form repeater for him. im not even sure exactly on the difference between a repeater and a control but im reading up on the msdn site, Building ASP.NET 2.0 Web Sites Using Web Standards and asp.net for designers. ill let you know how i get on thanks again -kevin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] maximum backward compartible to mobile phone (WAP) users? Which XHTML DTD?
Dejan Kozina wrote: [...] phone owners just do not upgrade their browsers. They're far more likely to buy a new phone that to mess with the handset's preinstalled software. [...] Very interesting and informative reply Dejan, thank you. We've been discussing mobile content publishing for (ironically) a mobile phone provider to deliver content to their own employees - the user behaviour you describe sounds reasonable but if you have any data to support your statement could you let me know? I'm particularly interested in Opera downloads or usage where Opera is not the default device browser. Thanks Jon Tan www.gr0w.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG]
> Me. I think this would have to go down in WSG history as the best answer EVER! That aside, the original question was probably a little off topic (and highly subjective) and should probably be answered off list directly to Robert. Russ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] .net question
Hi Peter Its pleasing that my suggestion seems to be making sense, given that i am a stand alone developer in a small company and its my first .net role! I think you are absolutely right, Peter, and your clear example illustrates that collaboration wins every time! Lets all wish Kevin the best of luck in sorting out this issue. All the best Peter Goddard From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter OtterySent: 17 March 2006 10:48To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] .net question Peter Goddard wrote: --> I would even suggest that you--> consider picking up the basics of aspx page development, not the code,--> but the web controls that are available in .net and see if you can --> suggest how you can work more closely ...a great informative post Peter.Another vote here for the collaborative approach.I was in a similar situation with a .NET dev guy and took the "what can I do to make this easier for you" approach to the meeting. He ended up installing Visual Studio on my machine, pointed me in the direction of the templates & repeatable elements, and I looked after all the html/css framework for him. the collaboration had other knock-on positive side effects and he's now an avid css advocate :) cheers,pete o
Re: [WSG]
Grant Bissett wrote: Me. I agree. Indeed, to coin a phrase, me too! - mark (who's not even Australian) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] .net question
Thanks Ben ASP.NET 2.0 makes this so much easier! ATB Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Wong Sent: 17 March 2006 10:38 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] .net question On 3/17/06, Peter Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm an ASP.NET programmer, so I know. I actually have the reverse > problem. The designer I work with doesn't have the faintest idea about > standards and I'm the one cleaning out the layout tables. > > Nice one Ben! Sack the designer! > Awww, I'm not that harsh. I'll give him some time to steer away from the dark side. I've managed to stop him from using tables for structuring the site. I'm working on weening him off using them for forms. Anyway, I agree with your advice to Kevin. It would probably be good to get involved in the coding up of your design in ASP.NET. You wouldn't have to go all the way and become a full-on ASP.NET guru, just learn the basic server controls and how they are rendered in the browser. -- Ben Wong e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://blog.onehero.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] .net question
Peter Goddard wrote:--> I would even suggest that you--> consider picking up the basics of aspx page development, not the code,--> but the web controls that are available in .net and see if you can --> suggest how you can work more closely ...a great informative post Peter.Another vote here for the collaborative approach.I was in a similar situation with a .NET dev guy and took the "what can I do to make this easier for you" approach to the meeting. He ended up installing Visual Studio on my machine, pointed me in the direction of the templates & repeatable elements, and I looked after all the html/css framework for him. the collaboration had other knock-on positive side effects and he's now an avid css advocate :) cheers,pete o
Re: [WSG]
Me. On 14/03/2006, at 11:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is an extremely subjective question to ask... However... Does anyone have an opinion (ha!) regarding who they believe to be the most creative/impressive standards-based Web interface designer/s in Australia (preferably, but not necessarily, Sydney) at this particular point in history? I'm thinking along the lines of your Douglas Bowmans and Dan Cederholms (or anyone else if Doug and Dan don't float you boat) of the Australian Web design scene. Any opinions appreciated. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Page-Break-X
on 17/03/06 23:46 Rene Saarsoo said the following:
As much as I have tested, this only seems to work in Opera.
Maybe you should just try to force page-break after every third
office-div (it seems that three of those fit nicely on one page...
especially when you remove the header). Probably adding some
class="third office" on the server side and something like:
.third {
page-break-after: always;
}
or this might work even better:
.third + div {
page-break-before: always;
}
Cheers Rene,
Yeah pity there is no better/more automatic way to do it.
I should be able to implement a 3rd break pretty easily with a touch of
php :)
Thanks again everyone,
Jack
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Re: [WSG] .net question
On 3/17/06, Peter Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm an ASP.NET programmer, so I know. I actually have the reverse > problem. The designer I work with doesn't have the faintest idea about > standards and I'm the one cleaning out the layout tables. > > Nice one Ben! Sack the designer! > Awww, I'm not that harsh. I'll give him some time to steer away from the dark side. I've managed to stop him from using tables for structuring the site. I'm working on weening him off using them for forms. Anyway, I agree with your advice to Kevin. It would probably be good to get involved in the coding up of your design in ASP.NET. You wouldn't have to go all the way and become a full-on ASP.NET guru, just learn the basic server controls and how they are rendered in the browser. -- Ben Wong e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://blog.onehero.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] .net question
>> I'm an ASP.NET programmer, so I know. I actually have the reverse problem. The designer I work with doesn't have the faintest idea about standards and I'm the one cleaning out the layout tables. Nice one Ben! Sack the designer! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Wong Sent: 16 March 2006 23:25 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] .net question On 3/17/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you would like to see some examples of what im talking about heres > one of the 1st sites i did with the programmer in question. notice the > special offers section and the reservations form-when he got it there > wasnt a table in "site." > http://www.shandonhotel.com/ What's wrong with the special offers section? I would've done it as a table too. Maybe you could use a table, but it looks enough like tablular data to use a table. I'm with you on the reservations form though. I assume the programmer's done it as a user control if he's any good. Using a definition list for the content in the middle is going a bit overboard, isn't it? Personally, I don't see much evidence of him hacking up your design in the site, apart from the reservation form. It could be much, much worse. I'm an ASP.NET programmer, so I know. I actually have the reverse problem. The designer I work with doesn't have the faintest idea about standards and I'm the one cleaning out the layout tables. -- Ben Wong e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://blog.onehero.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] .net question
Dear Kevin I'm a .net developer, working entirely in web standards and producing semantically correct xhtml output from server side code. There is little or no exra effort required to produce output on a web page (in ASP.NET - a web form) that meets web standards. Your developer can output data to the user interface using a Repeater control and item templates that you can format for him. You don't need to develop composite controls for this, although you can. In any event, if the output needs to be formatted in a composite control then all well and good. This is just extending the maintainability and reuse that both css in design and object oriented code development (all .net is OO) promote. This concept is tried and tested. The developer is essentially crossing boundaries here. If he cannot accept the extra effort required to bring an .aspx page into the design that you have produced, why not suggest that you sit with him and iron out the bugs. I would even suggest that you consider picking up the basics of aspx page development, not the code, but the web controls that are available in .net and see if you can suggest how you can work more closely on the output generated by the server to ensure that he understands the benefits of a collaboration. I'm in the fortunate (IMHO) position of working on both aspects of the web application, so I understand the dichotomy that exists in this scenario. Basically, a coder is mostly concerned with the complex wiring of an application and is basically satisfied that the application runs correctly, behaves according to the specification and handles errors gracefully, whilst operating as efficiently as the server environment allows. The designer is anxious to control the output to the user interface and to ensure this meets the design brief. The two parties are really working towards the same goal. They just start from opposite ends of the process. >From what you say, selling the concept of web standards to the developer is not going to be the answer. Instead try to encourage him to work with you and ask him to help you understand the issues he faces. If you go to the meeting on Monday expecting a bloodbath, that is what will happen irrespective of what attitude the developer brings to the table. It will do neither you nor the developer any good if this happens, and the cause of web standards will not have won any support. I urge you to believe strongly enough in your arguments to not wield them as a weapon. Believe it or not, Microsoft, who get plenty of criticism (sometimes justifiably) have made all the tools available to developers to build standards compliant applications. The Developer Qualifiactions (MCAD, MCSD and the new Microsoft .net exams) all promote web standards based application development. If the developer has chosen to work with this technology, encourage him to embrace the principles of good application design. I wish you all the very best with this. If I can be of any help please contact me off list. Peter Goddard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kvnmcwebn Sent: 16 March 2006 22:03 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] .net question thanks geoff, i guess thats i will have to be level headed in my aproach. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Page-Break-X
Jack Pivac wrote:
on 17/03/06 15:04 R Walker (RMW Web Publishing) said the following:
Try "page-break-inside: avoid;" on your divs.
Yeah am using that at the moment but it doesn't seem to do anything...
As much as I have tested, this only seems to work in Opera.
Maybe you should just try to force page-break after every third
office-div (it seems that three of those fit nicely on one page...
especially when you remove the header). Probably adding some
class="third office" on the server side and something like:
.third {
page-break-after: always;
}
or this might work even better:
.third + div {
page-break-before: always;
}
--
Rene Saarsoo
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