Re: [WSG] google chrome frame

[Joseph Taylor]

Tee,

IE6 is out there. Heck, IE5 is still out there (I made the decision to 
ignore IE5 already). How you deal with IE6 (or not) is up to you.


Personally, I still have to check IE6 and at least make sure my layouts 
are working properly. I try to do little things like limiting my use of 
.png files to a minimum so things don't look too ugly. IE6 is around, 
but it's old enough that I only go so far to make their experience match 
that of a modern browser.


I'd love to ignore IE6 too, but real people without a choice are using 
it in the workplace everyday.  A couple of my clients have an office 
full of Windows 2000 workstations.


The Chrome frame you mention can't be expected to be widely adopted on 
systems where the users can't even install anything period.


They probably use Chrome at home though.

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On 1/3/10 4:32 AM, tee wrote:
This new kid has been showing up in a number of sites' stats that I 
built.


Wonder if this may spread the use of HTML 5, also curious what benefit 
will it be for us web developers to push IE6 down to 18th level of hell.


For those corporations that are still using W2K and IE6, will IE6 
renders like Google Chrome if user installs Google Chrome Frame and 
that a site has it implemented?


It seems to be.

Quote: Users running Internet Explorer with Google Chrome Frame 
installed will automatically have their pages rendered by Google 
Chrome Frame


However it does not answered if we need to worry about fixing IE6 or not.

tee


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[WSG] google chrome frame

[tee]

This new kid has been showing up in a number of sites' stats that I  
built.


Wonder if this may spread the use of HTML 5, also curious what benefit  
will it be for us web developers to push IE6 down to 18th level of hell.


For those corporations that are still using W2K and IE6, will IE6  
renders like Google Chrome if user installs Google Chrome Frame and  
that a site has it implemented?


It seems to be.

Quote: Users running Internet Explorer with Google Chrome Frame  
installed will automatically have their pages rendered by Google  
Chrome Frame


However it does not answered if we need to worry about fixing IE6 or  
not.


tee


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Re: [WSG] google chrome frame

[David Dorward]

On 3 Jan 2010, at 09:32, tee wrote:
 For those corporations that are still using W2K and IE6, will IE6 renders 
 like Google Chrome if user installs Google Chrome Frame and that a site has 
 it implemented?

Most of those corporations don't allow end users to install software, and 
Chrome frame appears to require XP or newer (so you can count Win2k users out).

 However it does not answered if we need to worry about fixing IE6 or not.


This nudges the effective usage of IE6 down a little, but the browser is still 
out there and you still need to decide about the relative merits of supporting 
those users Vs. not doing a lot of work.

-- 
David Dorward
http://dorward.me.uk



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Re: [WSG] google chrome frame

[David McKinnon]

In our large-ish corporate environment we're stuck with IE6 as our default 
probably for another year :(

While we know that people have installed newer browsers——IE7 is authorised, but 
not the default--we still can't stop supporting IE6.


On 03/01/2010, at 8:54 PM, David Dorward wrote:

 On 3 Jan 2010, at 09:32, tee wrote:
 For those corporations that are still using W2K and IE6, will IE6 renders 
 like Google Chrome if user installs Google Chrome Frame and that a site has 
 it implemented?
 
 Most of those corporations don't allow end users to install software, and 
 Chrome frame appears to require XP or newer (so you can count Win2k users 
 out).
 
 However it does not answered if we need to worry about fixing IE6 or not.
 
 
 This nudges the effective usage of IE6 down a little, but the browser is 
 still out there and you still need to decide about the relative merits of 
 supporting those users Vs. not doing a lot of work.
 
 -- 
 David Dorward
 http://dorward.me.uk
 
 
 
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RE: [WSG] google chrome frame

[Steve Green]

In our large-ish corporate environment we're stuck with IE6 as our default
probably for another year :(

While we know that people have installed newer browsers——IE7 is authorised,
but not the default--we still can't stop supporting IE6.



One of the UK high street banks who has tens of thousands of users recently
advised me that they will be retaining IE6 as the default browser until 2014
due to the huge amount of work required to fix the large number of bespoke
applications they use. Staff can ask for special dispensation to get IE7
installed but if you've ever tried to get a corporate IT department to do
anything you'll understand that very few people will bother asking.

I think that techies forget the concerns that ordinary people have about
technology. Older users in particular are often reluctant to install or
change anything because they don't know what they can trust and they are
scared something will break. Unlike us, they don't have the knowledge or
facilities to fix anything that goes wrong.

I suspect that the kind of websites that ordinary people use will still be
seeing significant IE6 traffic (probably in excess of 10%) for a couple more
years. The stats for techie sites will be very different, so a decision on
whether to support IE6 will depend on the demographics of the visitors.

FWIW, one of my team was in Bangalore over Christmas and had to use an
Internet café. The machines were running Windows 98! So let's not forget
that some parts of the world cannot afford to upgrade as fast as we can.

Steve Green

 




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RE: [WSG] google chrome frame

[Tatham Oddie]

I've spent the last 12 months working on the one of the largest sites in
Australia. Over this time we have updated our browser support matrix twice,
and will probably update it again soon.

For us, IE6 usage is starting to hit a rapid decline, falling at about 1
percentage point a week. The last 3 weeks have been 8.75%, 7.60% and now
6.25%.

Considering Chrome is currently unsupported but at 4.57% (and growing), I
expect our next update will be to drop IE6 support in favour of adding
Chrome support.

That being said, the whole site is based on progressive enhancement so it
already works in Chrome and we even have a small but consistent set of users
browsing on their PS3s.

Nevertheless, the decision of which browsers you support (and to what degree
you support them) needs to be something that you evaluate and decide
yourself using your own market metrics. Anybody who tells you what you
should and should not support is most likely an idiot and probably not a
very good business person.


Thanks,

Tatham Oddie
au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 213 422 7068, skype: tathamoddie,
landline: +61 2 8011 3982, fax: +61 2 9475 5172
my business: tixi.com.au – Ticketing without the dramas


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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Green
Sent: Monday, 4 January 2010 11:10 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] google chrome frame

In our large-ish corporate environment we're stuck with IE6 as our default
probably for another year :(

While we know that people have installed newer browsers——IE7 is authorised,
but not the default--we still can't stop supporting IE6.



One of the UK high street banks who has tens of thousands of users recently
advised me that they will be retaining IE6 as the default browser until 2014
due to the huge amount of work required to fix the large number of bespoke
applications they use. Staff can ask for special dispensation to get IE7
installed but if you've ever tried to get a corporate IT department to do
anything you'll understand that very few people will bother asking.

I think that techies forget the concerns that ordinary people have about
technology. Older users in particular are often reluctant to install or
change anything because they don't know what they can trust and they are
scared something will break. Unlike us, they don't have the knowledge or
facilities to fix anything that goes wrong.

I suspect that the kind of websites that ordinary people use will still be
seeing significant IE6 traffic (probably in excess of 10%) for a couple more
years. The stats for techie sites will be very different, so a decision on
whether to support IE6 will depend on the demographics of the visitors.

FWIW, one of my team was in Bangalore over Christmas and had to use an
Internet café. The machines were running Windows 98! So let's not forget
that some parts of the world cannot afford to upgrade as fast as we can.

Steve Green

 




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[WSG] google chrome on windows 98?

[tee]

Anybody knows if Google Chrome can run on Windows 98 and W2K?

Google is aggressively promoting google chrome, I see it puts a big  
icon for ie6 on google page.


A few of my clients have visitors from South Africa and a few Eastern  
Europe countries, the IE6 user is higher (over 30%), even my site  
which attracts people from many countries and the IE6 stat has jumped  
up (use to be like 10% but now is 20 - 25%) despite that I have a 'you  
are seeing this message because you use IE6' message.


This is very depressing as it indicates that this browser still isn't  
going to die by the end of 2009. So I am really curious if Google  
Chrome can help speed up the death of IE6.



tee


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Re: [WSG] google chrome on windows 98?

[Hassan Schroeder]

tee wrote:

Anybody knows if Google Chrome can run on Windows 98 and W2K?


I don't, but...

This is very depressing as it indicates that this browser still isn't 
going to die by the end of 2009. So I am really curious if Google Chrome 
can help speed up the death of IE6.


I'm currently consulting at a Very Big Software Company where the
IT-standardized PC image installed on all systems, currently, is
Windows XP with IE6. Yes, IE6, and most users are not given admin
authority over their systems to install/upgrade software.

So I don't think Chrome is going to change that situation :-)

FWIW,
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Re: [WSG] Google chrome...

[David Storey]

On 7 Sep 2008, at 04:52, MichaelMD wrote:





They block themselves too.  Google has a history of browser sniffing
and blocking browsers such as Opera.  On Google groups for example,
they block Opera, Safari *and* Chrome when trying to change your
profile photo.  I'm sure there are other examples too as the block
Opera on many sites.  It's an example why browser sniffing is so bad.
Not only is it often used to block browsers that would otherwise
be capable, but you never know when a new browser will come out (even
from your own company).


Yes its funny watching this common scenario with large organisations..
one department is often not aware of what another department is doing
until they start getting complaints from the public about something  
not

working!

...most likely it has something to do with the browser-specific
javascript quirks you are likely to come across when trying to build
those fancy drag'n'drop user interfaces.

Do they have an alternate way to change that photo that doesn't use
javascript?


The point is it works fine in Opera, Safari and Chrome, if they didn't  
have the browser sniffing there.  You can test it in Opera by masking  
the user agent as Firefox.  It's the same with the majority of the  
cases I deal with, with browser sniffing and Opera.  It just blocks a  
browser that would otherwise be capable to access the content.











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Re: [WSG] Google chrome...

[MichaelMD]

 
 I can't figure out why it has to load the process three times
 in order to run.


To be able to kill locked up tabs or windows without having to kill the
browser sounds like a nice feature to me ... about time!


 
 First i thought it felt unfinished, but then the
 minimal design grew on me. Very uncluttered.  And drop
 down menus consolodate a lot of screen real estate.
 Well designed gui,  all its needs now is firebug and
 id use it. And i like the incognito windows, thats a
 slick feature.

I hope they fix the bug that prevents me from saving those thumbnails it
generates.
What use is that feature if I can't save them?

..and yes I'll still want Firebug and Operator !






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Re: [WSG] Google chrome...

[David Storey]

On 6 Sep 2008, at 04:12, Marius Milcher wrote:

Has anyone noticed how Hotmail is 'unavailable' in Chrome??   
Recommending one upgrades to either: IE, FF or Safari.


Could this be a snub by Microsoft?? Innocent browser compatability  
issue? What's the opinion?


Seconds out...Round 3


They block themselves too.  Google has a history of browser sniffing  
and blocking browsers such as Opera.  On Google groups for example,  
they block Opera, Safari *and* Chrome when trying to change your  
profile photo.  I'm sure there are other examples too as the block  
Opera on many sites.  It's an example why browser sniffing is so bad.   
Not only is it often used to block browsers that would otherwise be  
capable, but you never know when a new browser will come out (even  
from your own company).




2008/9/5 Michael Horowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Because that is an intentional part of the way the system is designed.

Read the comic for all the details 
http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/index.html


Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
561-394-9079




Nancy Gill wrote:
One thing I have noticed today is that it creates 3 different  
processes in the Task Manager to run one coyp of chrome.  I have  
tested this several times with the Task Manager open and everytime I  
open the browser, I add three processes all named chrome.  They vary  
from 5mb to 44mb of memory usage.


I can't figure out why it has to load the process three times in  
order to run.


Nancy

- Original Message - From: kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome...


First i thought it felt unfinished, but then the minimal design grew  
on me. Very uncluttered.  And drop down menus consolodate a lot of  
screen real estate. Well designed gui,  all its needs now is firebug  
and id use it. And i like the incognito windows, thats a slick  
feature.




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Product Manager Opera Dragonfly,
Consumer Product Manager Opera Core,
W3C Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group member

Consumer Product Management  Developer Relations
Opera Software ASA
Oslo, Norway

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Re: [WSG] Google chrome...

[MichaelMD]

 
 They block themselves too.  Google has a history of browser sniffing
 and blocking browsers such as Opera.  On Google groups for example,
 they block Opera, Safari *and* Chrome when trying to change your
 profile photo.  I'm sure there are other examples too as the block
 Opera on many sites.  It's an example why browser sniffing is so bad.
  Not only is it often used to block browsers that would otherwise
 be capable, but you never know when a new browser will come out (even
 from your own company).  

Yes its funny watching this common scenario with large organisations..
one department is often not aware of what another department is doing
until they start getting complaints from the public about something not
working!

...most likely it has something to do with the browser-specific
javascript quirks you are likely to come across when trying to build
those fancy drag'n'drop user interfaces.

Do they have an alternate way to change that photo that doesn't use
javascript? 







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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

[Keryx Web]

Adam Martin skrev:
Hey guys... it is great that talk about accessibility and chrome has 
been raised - but I do think that we need to wait until it is out of beta.


A beta is supposed to be feature complete. otherwoise it's an alpha.


Lars Gunther


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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

[Christian Montoya]

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:33 AM, Keryx Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Adam Martin skrev:

 Hey guys... it is great that talk about accessibility and chrome has been
 raised - but I do think that we need to wait until it is out of beta.

 A beta is supposed to be feature complete. otherwoise it's an alpha.


Just clear up my understanding, folks; is Internet Explorer accessible
because Microsoft builds the accessibility features, or because a
third-party software vendor builds the features? I know Microsoft has
been very good about building a number of user-friendly features into
Windows, like the on-screen keyboard and OS-level magnifying tool, but
I thought that all the screen readers and similar assistive devices
were developed by third parties.

If Google Chrome is really open source, then it seems that the same
could be done for it, with a lot less expense than designing assistive
software/devices for a proprietary browser.

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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

[Steven Faulkner]

Hi Christian,
 Just clear up my understanding, folks; is Internet Explorer accessible
 because Microsoft builds the accessibility features

The short answer is yes

Details of the accessibility of internet Explorer can be found in the
VPAT (voluntary product accessibility template) supplied by Microsoft:
(http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/2/3/c23bc250-5f80-4d0c-a29d-877355ff91e8/IE7_VPAT%20version%201%200.doc)
- word doc and the VPAT for Firefox 3 is available here:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/vpat-3.html

 I have reproduced the relevant VPAT info for Internet Explorer 7 below:


Section 1194.21 Software Applications and Operating Systems - Detail
Voluntary Product Accessibility Template


(a) When software is designed to run on a system that has a keyboard,
product functions shall be executable from a keyboard where the
function itself or the result of performing a function can be
discerned textually.

Supported with Exceptions:

Windows Internet Explorer 7 supports all standard keyboard features of
the user interface.

Windows Internet Explorer 7 provides Help functionality that includes
easily accessible reference guides for keyboard shortcuts.

In addition, documentation on Keyboard Shortcut keys are available
online: 
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/fe192a3f-1401-4233-919e-cae97eca4c0c1033.mspx

More documents on this subject can be found at:

http://www.microsoft.com/enable/products/keyboard.aspx

Windows Internet Explorer 7 provides a new user interface; keyboard
users can use the Alt key to activate the classical menu.

Exceptions:

Windows Internet Explorer 7 browser arbitrary text content cannot be
selected by the keyboard. Text can be selected by using a mouse or
other pointing device.

Windows Internet Explorer 7 supports all standard keyboard operation
of the user interface. Java and in-page plug-ins for content such as
Flash cannot be used with the keyboard so they must not be installed
for keyboard-only users. The tab order skips over in-page objects
completely, so form controls within them cannot be used without a
mouse.


(b) Applications shall not disrupt or disable activated features of
other products that are identified as accessibility features, where
those features are developed and documented according to industry
standards. Applications also shall not disrupt or disable activated
features of any operating system that are identified as accessibility
features where the application programming interface for those
accessibility features has been documented by the manufacturer of the
operating system and is available to the product developer.


Supported with Exceptions:

Windows Internet Explorer 7 supports system StickyKeys, FilterKeys,
MouseKeys, SerialKeys and ToggleKeys.

Exceptions:

Windows Internet Explorer 7 does not use the cursor width from the
system setting.


(c) A well-defined on-screen indication of the current focus shall be
provided that moves among interactive interface elements as the input
focus changes. The focus shall be programmatically exposed so that
Assistive Technology can track focus and focus changes.


Supported with Exceptions:

Windows Internet Explorer 7 uses programming interfaces to expose the
location of the focus indicator and Microsoft Active Accessibility(R)
to expose its interface elements to assistive technologies.


Microsoft Active Accessibility is a COM-based technology that improves
the way accessibility aids work with applications running on the
Microsoft Windows operating systems. It provides dynamic-link
libraries that are incorporated into the operating system, as well as
a COM interface and application programming elements that provide
reliable methods for exposing information about user interface
elements.

Exceptions:

The caret indication is neither visible nor programmatically exposed
in read-only fields.



(d) Sufficient information about a user interface element including
the identity, operation and state of the element shall be available to
Assistive Technology. When an image represents a program element, the
information conveyed by the image must also be available in text.

Supported:

Windows Internet Explorer 7 user interface elements are exposed
programmatically through native object models and programming
interfaces such as Microsoft Active Accessibility. Standard Windows
controls and interface elements automatically expose this information
through Microsoft Active Accessibility. Labels are associated with
controls, objects, icons and images in Internet Explorer user
interface.

(e) When bitmap images are used to identify controls, status
indicators, or other programmatic elements, the meaning assigned to
those images shall be consistent throughout an application's
performance.


Supported:

Windows Internet Explorer 7 utilizes standard and consistent images throughout.

(f) Textual information shall be provided through operating system
functions for displaying text. The minimum 

Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

[russ - maxdesign]

 The short answer is yes
 
 Details of the accessibility of internet Explorer can be found in the
 VPAT (voluntary product accessibility template) supplied by Microsoft:
 (http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/2/3/c23bc250-5f80-4d0c-a29d-877355ff
 91e8/IE7_VPAT%20version%201%200.doc)

Thanks Steve! 

You can also download the VPAT word files for all of their products from
their Section 508 VPATs for Microsoft products page here:
http://www.microsoft.com/Industry/government/products/section508.mspx

Search on the page for Internet Explorer 7.0 VPAT if you'd like the IE7
info as a 208k word file. Stimulating reading  :)

Russ




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Re: [WSG] Google chrome...

[Marius Milcher]

Has anyone noticed how Hotmail is 'unavailable' in Chrome??  Recommending
one upgrades to either: IE, FF or Safari.

Could this be a snub by Microsoft?? Innocent browser compatability issue?
What's the opinion?

Seconds out...Round 3


2008/9/5 Michael Horowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Because that is an intentional part of the way the system is designed.

 Read the comic for all the details
 http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/index.html


 Michael Horowitz
 Your Computer Consultant
 http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
 561-394-9079




 Nancy Gill wrote:

 One thing I have noticed today is that it creates 3 different processes in
 the Task Manager to run one coyp of chrome.  I have tested this several
 times with the Task Manager open and everytime I open the browser, I add
 three processes all named chrome.  They vary from 5mb to 44mb of memory
 usage.

 I can't figure out why it has to load the process three times in order to
 run.

 Nancy

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 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome...


  First i thought it felt unfinished, but then the minimal design grew on
 me. Very uncluttered.  And drop down menus consolodate a lot of screen real
 estate. Well designed gui,  all its needs now is firebug and id use it. And
 i like the incognito windows, thats a slick feature.



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Re: [WSG] Google chrome...

[sri ni]

Check this Read the Book..
http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/index.html
Srini

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 One thing I have noticed today is that it creates 3 different processes in
 the Task Manager to run one coyp of chrome.  I have tested this several
 times with the Task Manager open and everytime I open the browser, I add
 three processes all named chrome.  They vary from 5mb to 44mb of memory
 usage.

 I can't figure out why it has to load the process three times in order to
 run.

 Nancy

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  First i thought it felt unfinished, but then the minimal design grew on
 me. Very uncluttered.  And drop down menus consolodate a lot of screen real
 estate. Well designed gui,  all its needs now is firebug and id use it. And
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2008 10:26 PM
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On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:24 AM, David Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 3 Sep 2008, at 13:08, Todd Budnikas wrote:


 On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:19 AM, David Storey wrote:


 On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:42, tee wrote:


 On Sep 3, 2008, at 2:36 AM, David Storey wrote:


 On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:28, Regnard Raquedan wrote:

 Well, if it's akin to Safari, then it's as good as testing it 
there,
 right? :)

 Or is it...?

 No, it has a different JavaScript engine, and doesn't support a 
number
 of things the regular WebKit supports, such as text-shadow, 
@font-face
and a
 few others.


 Does it support border-radius or -webkit-radius?

 no browsers support border-radius.  It does support
 -webkit-border-radius, as far as I know (I'm running on Mac and
parallels
 doesn't work on my 64-bit Vista, and I can't be bothered to do the few
hours
 re-install process of Vista)

 -webkit-border-radius renders just fine. Running Chrome on XP on VMWare
 Fusion. http://www.css3.info/preview/rounded-border/

 Without WebKit's anti-aliasing as far as I can tell from Twitter posts.
I'm
 wondering if this is due to webkit using platform specific code for 
things
 like this and text-shadow, as being a reason why they are not in Chrome
 (Safari on Windows has a compatibility layer), or if it is a older 
branch.
  I'm thinking more the former.


Could someone tell me if it has Google Download Accelerator or other
Google Toolbar features built in? I'm just wondering how much is under
the hood...

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[Graphics Web Designing, LLC]

I am located in Florida, I am available 24/7. I do not let a phone call go
unnoticed. 

I wish I could re-locate, however I will not put a company through the cost
of moving me and my family.

I would feel more comfortable working from my home office I have
established.

Please let me know if you have any problems with that.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

 

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(941)426-8117 Fax/Phone

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On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:24 AM, David Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 3 Sep 2008, at 13:08, Todd Budnikas wrote:


 On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:19 AM, David Storey wrote:


 On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:42, tee wrote:


 On Sep 3, 2008, at 2:36 AM, David Storey wrote:


 On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:28, Regnard Raquedan wrote:

 Well, if it's akin to Safari, then it's as good as testing it there,
 right? :)

 Or is it...?

 No, it has a different JavaScript engine, and doesn't support a number
 of things the regular WebKit supports, such as text-shadow, @font-face
and a
 few others.


 Does it support border-radius or -webkit-radius?

 no browsers support border-radius.  It does support
 -webkit-border-radius, as far as I know (I'm running on Mac and
parallels
 doesn't work on my 64-bit Vista, and I can't be bothered to do the few
hours
 re-install process of Vista)

 -webkit-border-radius renders just fine. Running Chrome on XP on VMWare
 Fusion. http://www.css3.info/preview/rounded-border/

 Without WebKit's anti-aliasing as far as I can tell from Twitter posts.
I'm
 wondering if this is due to webkit using platform specific code for things
 like this and text-shadow, as being a reason why they are not in Chrome
 (Safari on Windows has a compatibility layer), or if it is a older branch.
  I'm thinking more the former.


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Google Toolbar features built in? I'm just wondering how much is under
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I am located in Florida, I am available 24/7. I do not let a phone call go
unnoticed. 

I wish I could re-locate, however I will not put a company through the cost
of moving me and my family.

I would feel more comfortable working from my home office I have
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Hi Guys, 

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If anyone is interested, please email me [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Cheers, 

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Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2008 10:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:24 AM, David Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 3 Sep 2008, at 13:08, Todd Budnikas wrote:


 On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:19 AM, David Storey wrote:


 On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:42, tee wrote:


 On Sep 3, 2008, at 2:36 AM, David Storey wrote:


 On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:28, Regnard Raquedan wrote:

 Well, if it's akin to Safari, then it's as good as testing it there,
 right? :)

 Or is it...?

 No, it has a different JavaScript engine, and doesn't support a number
 of things the regular WebKit supports, such as text-shadow, @font-face
and a
 few others.


 Does it support border-radius or -webkit-radius?

 no browsers support border-radius.  It does support
 -webkit-border-radius, as far as I know (I'm running on Mac and
parallels
 doesn't work on my 64-bit Vista, and I can't be bothered to do the few
hours
 re-install process of Vista)

 -webkit-border-radius renders just fine. Running Chrome on XP on VMWare
 Fusion. http://www.css3.info/preview/rounded-border/

 Without WebKit's anti-aliasing as far as I can tell from Twitter posts.
I'm
 wondering if this is due to webkit using platform specific code for things
 like this and text-shadow, as being a reason why they are not in Chrome
 (Safari on Windows has a compatibility layer), or if it is a older branch.
  I'm thinking more the former.


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Google Toolbar features built in? I'm just wondering how much is under
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I can't believe this is still going. You guys are ALL off-topic for
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ADMIN THREAD CLOSED

The employment aspect of this thread has been closed for two reasons

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Good gosh, can you not see that people are only HUMAN and make MISTAKES for
the love of god, 
Stop getting so huffy. I guess next to you being perfect nobody can make a
mistake!

No wonder I hardly post anything to this. I would hate to upset those that
are to perfect for this world!
  


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I can't believe this is still going. You guys are ALL off-topic for
this list. Please take your employment discussions elsewhere (like,
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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

[James Jeffery]

Just got chrome on my XP machine. Looks good but I am concerned about
accessibility. Again, thanks Steve.
James Jeffery

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 Thank you for the report Steve. It was very helpful!!

 kevin


 On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:23:15 -0400, Steve Green 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yes, this is the case. There has been a lot of talk about this in GAWDS,
 and
 Steve Faulkner has written about it at
 http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=92.

 Basically it looks like there's no MSAA support. If they don't address
 this,
 many large organisations (at least in the UK) will not use it. I imagine
 that such organisations are exactly the people Google are expecting to
 build
 applications using Chrome, so hopefully this will be addressed at some
 point, ideally before it comes out of beta.

 Steve


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 I have a huge concern about accessibility here. Apparently Jaws and other
 screen readers don't work on Google Chrome at all. Can others please
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First i thought it felt unfinished, but then the minimal design grew on 
me. Very uncluttered.  And drop down menus consolodate a lot of screen 
real estate. Well designed gui,  all its needs now is firebug and id use 
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I believe it's a know bug, a missing feature. It's something David Pogue
mentioned in his column on the Chrome
releasehttp://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/03/technology/personaltech/03pogue.html,
his most recent column:

At the moment, for example, there's no way to e-mail a Web page to someone,
no full-screen mode, no way to magnify the page (rather than just the text),
and no bookmarks organizing screen. Google says that these features are at
the top of its to-do list.


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[Adam Martin]

Hey guys... it is great that talk about accessibility and chrome has been 
raised - but I do think that we need to wait until it is out of beta. 

Cheers
Adam
  - Original Message - 
  From: James Jeffery 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 7:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???


  Just got chrome on my XP machine. Looks good but I am concerned about 
accessibility. Again, thanks Steve.


  James Jeffery


  On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:19 PM, kevin erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thank you for the report Steve. It was very helpful!!

kevin


On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:23:15 -0400, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Yes, this is the case. There has been a lot of talk about this in GAWDS, 
and
  Steve Faulkner has written about it at
  http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=92.

  Basically it looks like there's no MSAA support. If they don't address 
this,
  many large organisations (at least in the UK) will not use it. I imagine
  that such organisations are exactly the people Google are expecting to 
build
  applications using Chrome, so hopefully this will be addressed at some
  point, ideally before it comes out of beta.

  Steve


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  I have a huge concern about accessibility here. Apparently Jaws and other
  screen readers don't work on Google Chrome at all. Can others please
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[Nancy Gill]

One thing I have noticed today is that it creates 3 different processes in 
the Task Manager to run one coyp of chrome.  I have tested this several 
times with the Task Manager open and everytime I open the browser, I add 
three processes all named chrome.  They vary from 5mb to 44mb of memory 
usage.


I can't figure out why it has to load the process three times in order to 
run.


Nancy

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First i thought it felt unfinished, but then the minimal design grew on 
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Re: [WSG] Google chrome...

[Fred Ballard]

Shift+Esc in Chrome will open up Task Manager - Google Chrome, which
should help in answering your question.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Nancy Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One thing I have noticed today is that it creates 3 different processes in
 the Task Manager to run one coyp of chrome.  I have tested this several
 times with the Task Manager open and everytime I open the browser, I add
 three processes all named chrome.  They vary from 5mb to 44mb of memory
 usage.

 I can't figure out why it has to load the process three times in order to
 run.

 Nancy

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  First i thought it felt unfinished, but then the minimal design grew on
 me. Very uncluttered.  And drop down menus consolodate a lot of screen real
 estate. Well designed gui,  all its needs now is firebug and id use it. And
 i like the incognito windows, thats a slick feature.



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[Chris Knowles]

Nancy Gill wrote:
 I can't figure out why it has to load the process three times in order
 to run.

the google explanation:
http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/3

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RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

[Webb, KerryA]

Adam wrote:

 Hey guys... it is great that talk about accessibility and chrome has been 
 raised - but I do think that we need to wait until it is out of beta. 
 
Isn't that what beta is for - to get feedback for further development?

And Gmail is still in beta after several years.

Kerry 
  
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Re: [WSG] Google chrome...

[Rob Crowther]

Nancy Gill wrote:
I can't figure out why it has to load the process three times in order 
to run.


It runs every tab in a separate process, plus one main one for the 
browser.  This means a crash on a single page won't bring down the whole 
browser, it also means there is, for the first time in a browser, the 
possibility of seeing exactly how much memory and CPU power an 
individual website is using up (right click on the window bar and select 
Task Manager).


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RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

[Steve Green]

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Hey guys... it is great that talk about accessibility and chrome has been
raised - but I do think that we need to wait until it is out of beta. 
 
Cheers
Adam


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Why? Accessibility can't just be bolted on afterwards - it needs to be
designed in from the start. The fact that the application cannot be used
with just a keyboard is criminally negligent - that's a fundamental
requirement of any application. The simplicity of the UI means it should
have been really easy, and the fact that the application is device-dependent
suggests that accessibility isn't on their radar at all.

The fact that keyboard-only users, screen reader users and others cannot use
the browser at all means that they are entirely excluded from the beta
phase, so it seems they will not be able to provide feedback until it goes
gold, if it ever does. For an organisation with Google's resources this is
totally unacceptable.

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[Michael Horowitz]

Because that is an intentional part of the way the system is designed.

Read the comic for all the details 
http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/index.html



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Nancy Gill wrote:
One thing I have noticed today is that it creates 3 different 
processes in the Task Manager to run one coyp of chrome.  I have 
tested this several times with the Task Manager open and everytime I 
open the browser, I add three processes all named chrome.  They vary 
from 5mb to 44mb of memory usage.


I can't figure out why it has to load the process three times in order 
to run.


Nancy

- Original Message - From: kevin mcmonagle 
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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome...


First i thought it felt unfinished, but then the minimal design grew 
on me. Very uncluttered.  And drop down menus consolodate a lot of 
screen real estate. Well designed gui,  all its needs now is firebug 
and id use it. And i like the incognito windows, thats a slick feature.




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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

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Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???


Hey guys... it is great that talk about accessibility and chrome has been 
raised - but I do think that we need to wait until it is out of beta.

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I think it might be in beta in perpetuity - sort of like g-mail and Adobe 
Spry. My guess is it protects them from litigation. I would be very 
surprised to ever see a shipping release.


That said, I'm not sure what this all has to do with standards :-)

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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

[Ben Buchanan]

 Hey guys... it is great that talk about accessibility and chrome has been

 raised - but I do think that we need to wait until it is out of beta.

Well... Google has a track record of a) keeping products in permanent beta;
and b) never getting around to that pesky accessibility bit. So, personally
I think waiting until its out of beta is a bad idea :)



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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[kate]

Works great for my needs,

I can use Google's Gmail to delete and send mail at home..I like it!
Kate
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anton Babushkin 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...


  Google Chrome wasn't working for me in the office either, but I think its all 
due to the firewall and proxy that we have setup here. It couldn't seem to 
negotiate between the proxy and the installer. I just hooked it up to an 
outside ADSL connection (my work PC that is), and typing this Email through 
Chrome right now :)


  Its a brilliant browser, a true innovation to the way we use the web. Too bad 
Java and Shockwave don't work on it yet.


  On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Indeed. We have some very clunky sites and they loaded almost
instantly. I couldn't believe the rendering speed.

However Gmail won't load on any computers with Chrome on at work (in
fact, I can't sign in to any google services). Is this problem
affecting everyone or is it just our network? If it's affecting
everyone that's pretty massive fail for Google.

(e-mail sent from Gmail in Firefox!!)

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jeffery Lowder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know, I tired it on a couple of the more intensive ajax dependent pages 
I've been working on and it puts FF to shame.
 If people realize how much faster they can surf the web - this thing is 
going to take off big time.


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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[David Dorward]

tee wrote:
 I really like to see that it magically repairs IE6 broken web, so that
 we can forever moving forward and it helps save IE team from
 implementing compatibility view in IE8. Hack!, they might just start
 thinking why do we wasting our time on IE8. Rumor has circling in
 Technorati, MSN, Diggit that the head of IE team was sending his
 resumé to google inc.

 As for google, it will win over all big corp that use IE6 for their
 intranets.
Not likely. A large numbers of them use IE6 because their Intranets were
designed for IE6 and not browsers. Since Chrome is WebKit based, it
isn't going to render the Intranet pages as desired.




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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Naveen Bhaskar]

so one more browser to check for browser compatibility  in future..like other 
google products this is going to be the popular one.

 

thanks and regards
Naveen Bhaskar
Bangalore



- Original Message 
From: kate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008 12:06:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

 
Works great for my needs,
 
I can use Google's Gmail to delete and send mail at 
home..I like it!
Kate
- Original Message - 
From: Anton  Babushkin 
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:50  AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome...  Coming very soon...

Google Chrome wasn't working for me in the office either, but I  think its all 
due to the firewall and proxy that we have setup here. It  couldn't seem to 
negotiate between the proxy and the installer. I just hooked  it up to an 
outside ADSL connection (my work PC that is), and typing this  Email through 
Chrome right now :) 

Its a brilliant browser, a true innovation to the way we use the web. Too  bad 
Java and Shockwave don't work on it yet.


On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Indeed.  We have some very clunky sites and they loaded almost
instantly. I  couldn't believe the rendering speed.

However Gmail won't load on any  computers with Chrome on at work (in
fact, I can't sign in to any google  services). Is this problem
affecting everyone or is it just our network?  If it's affecting
everyone that's pretty massive fail for  Google.

(e-mail sent from Gmail in Firefox!!)

On Wed, Sep 3,  2008 at 10:15 AM, Jeffery Lowder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 I know, I tired it on a couple of the more intensive  ajax dependent pages 
 I've been working on and it puts FF to shame.
  If people realize how much faster they can surf the web - this thing is  
 going to take off big  time.


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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[David Dorward]

Naveen Bhaskar wrote:
 so one more browser to check for browser compatibility  in
 future...like other google products this is going to be the popular one.
It's Webkit, so rendering issues should be insignificant. Any
differences will likely only come out if you're doing complicated
JavaScript.


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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Regnard Raquedan]

Well, if it's akin to Safari, then it's as good as testing it there, right?
:)
Or is it...?


I'm giving Chrome a test run right now and eerily, it's as if I'm using
Firefox. But then again, I've only used it for less than a day.


On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Naveen Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 so one more browser to check for browser compatibility  in future...like
 other google products this is going to be the popular one.

 --
 thanks and regards
 Naveen Bhaskar
 Bangalore

 - Original Message 
 From: kate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Sent: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008 12:06:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

 Works great for my needs,

 I can use Google's Gmail to delete and send mail at home..I like it!
 Kate

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Anton Babushkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:50 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

 Google Chrome wasn't working for me in the office either, but I think its
 all due to the firewall and proxy that we have setup here. It couldn't seem
 to negotiate between the proxy and the installer. I just hooked it up to an
 outside ADSL connection (my work PC that is), and typing this Email through
 Chrome right now :)
 Its a brilliant browser, a true innovation to the way we use the web. Too
 bad Java and Shockwave don't work on it yet.

 On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Indeed. We have some very clunky sites and they loaded almost
 instantly. I couldn't believe the rendering speed.

 However Gmail won't load on any computers with Chrome on at work (in
 fact, I can't sign in to any google services). Is this problem
 affecting everyone or is it just our network? If it's affecting
 everyone that's pretty massive fail for Google.

 (e-mail sent from Gmail in Firefox!!)

 On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jeffery Lowder
 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  I know, I tired it on a couple of the more intensive ajax dependent
 pages I've been working on and it puts FF to shame.
  If people realize how much faster they can surf the web - this thing is
 going to take off big time.


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[Rae Buerckner]

Yep... I got that... and I don't have any proxys set.


On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Anyone else getting an initialisation error when I try to run the
 browser?! I've tried to install twice. Maybe it's to do with the proxy, but
 the message says The application failed to initialize properly, click OK to
 terminate when I start it up.




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 Behalf Of *Naveen Bhaskar
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:52 AM
 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

 *Subject:* Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

  so one more browser to check for browser compatibility  in future...like
 other google products this is going to be the popular one.

 --
 thanks and regards
 Naveen Bhaskar
 Bangalore

 - Original Message 
 From: kate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Sent: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008 12:06:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

 Works great for my needs,

 I can use Google's Gmail to delete and send mail at home..I like it!
 Kate

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Anton Babushkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:50 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

 Google Chrome wasn't working for me in the office either, but I think its
 all due to the firewall and proxy that we have setup here. It couldn't seem
 to negotiate between the proxy and the installer. I just hooked it up to an
 outside ADSL connection (my work PC that is), and typing this Email through
 Chrome right now :)
 Its a brilliant browser, a true innovation to the way we use the web. Too
 bad Java and Shockwave don't work on it yet.

 On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Indeed. We have some very clunky sites and they loaded almost
 instantly. I couldn't believe the rendering speed.

 However Gmail won't load on any computers with Chrome on at work (in
 fact, I can't sign in to any google services). Is this problem
 affecting everyone or is it just our network? If it's affecting
 everyone that's pretty massive fail for Google.

 (e-mail sent from Gmail in Firefox!!)

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  I know, I tired it on a couple of the more intensive ajax dependent
 pages I've been working on and it puts FF to shame.
  If people realize how much faster they can surf the web - this thing is
 going to take off big time.


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[David Storey]

On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:28, Regnard Raquedan wrote:

Well, if it's akin to Safari, then it's as good as testing it there,  
right? :)


Or is it...?


No, it has a different JavaScript engine, and doesn't support a number  
of things the regular WebKit supports, such as text-shadow, @font-face  
and a few others.





I'm giving Chrome a test run right now and eerily, it's as if I'm  
using Firefox. But then again, I've only used it for less than a day.



On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Naveen Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
so one more browser to check for browser compatibility  in  
future...like other google products this is going to be the popular  
one.


thanks and regards
Naveen Bhaskar
Bangalore


- Original Message 
From: kate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008 12:06:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

Works great for my needs,

I can use Google's Gmail to delete and send mail at home..I like it!
Kate
- Original Message -
From: Anton Babushkin
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

Google Chrome wasn't working for me in the office either, but I  
think its all due to the firewall and proxy that we have setup here.  
It couldn't seem to negotiate between the proxy and the installer. I  
just hooked it up to an outside ADSL connection (my work PC that  
is), and typing this Email through Chrome right now :)


Its a brilliant browser, a true innovation to the way we use the  
web. Too bad Java and Shockwave don't work on it yet.


On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Indeed. We have some very clunky sites and they loaded almost
instantly. I couldn't believe the rendering speed.

However Gmail won't load on any computers with Chrome on at work (in
fact, I can't sign in to any google services). Is this problem
affecting everyone or is it just our network? If it's affecting
everyone that's pretty massive fail for Google.

(e-mail sent from Gmail in Firefox!!)

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jeffery Lowder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know, I tired it on a couple of the more intensive ajax  
dependent pages I've been working on and it puts FF to shame.
 If people realize how much faster they can surf the web - this  
thing is going to take off big time.



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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[tee]

On Sep 3, 2008, at 2:36 AM, David Storey wrote:



On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:28, Regnard Raquedan wrote:

Well, if it's akin to Safari, then it's as good as testing it  
there, right? :)


Or is it...?


No, it has a different JavaScript engine, and doesn't support a  
number of things the regular WebKit supports, such as text-shadow,  
@font-face and a few others.





Does it support border-radius or -webkit-radius?

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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[David Storey]

On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:42, tee wrote:



On Sep 3, 2008, at 2:36 AM, David Storey wrote:



On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:28, Regnard Raquedan wrote:

Well, if it's akin to Safari, then it's as good as testing it  
there, right? :)


Or is it...?


No, it has a different JavaScript engine, and doesn't support a  
number of things the regular WebKit supports, such as text-shadow,  
@font-face and a few others.





Does it support border-radius or -webkit-radius?


no browsers support border-radius.  It does support -webkit-border- 
radius, as far as I know (I'm running on Mac and parallels doesn't  
work on my 64-bit Vista, and I can't be bothered to do the few hours  
re-install process of Vista)





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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Todd Budnikas]

On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:19 AM, David Storey wrote:



On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:42, tee wrote:



On Sep 3, 2008, at 2:36 AM, David Storey wrote:



On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:28, Regnard Raquedan wrote:

Well, if it's akin to Safari, then it's as good as testing it  
there, right? :)


Or is it...?


No, it has a different JavaScript engine, and doesn't support a  
number of things the regular WebKit supports, such as text-shadow,  
@font-face and a few others.





Does it support border-radius or -webkit-radius?


no browsers support border-radius.  It does support -webkit-border- 
radius, as far as I know (I'm running on Mac and parallels doesn't  
work on my 64-bit Vista, and I can't be bothered to do the few hours  
re-install process of Vista)


-webkit-border-radius renders just fine. Running Chrome on XP on  
VMWare Fusion. http://www.css3.info/preview/rounded-border/








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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[David Storey]

On 3 Sep 2008, at 13:08, Todd Budnikas wrote:



On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:19 AM, David Storey wrote:



On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:42, tee wrote:



On Sep 3, 2008, at 2:36 AM, David Storey wrote:



On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:28, Regnard Raquedan wrote:

Well, if it's akin to Safari, then it's as good as testing it  
there, right? :)


Or is it...?


No, it has a different JavaScript engine, and doesn't support a  
number of things the regular WebKit supports, such as text- 
shadow, @font-face and a few others.





Does it support border-radius or -webkit-radius?


no browsers support border-radius.  It does support -webkit-border- 
radius, as far as I know (I'm running on Mac and parallels doesn't  
work on my 64-bit Vista, and I can't be bothered to do the few  
hours re-install process of Vista)


-webkit-border-radius renders just fine. Running Chrome on XP on  
VMWare Fusion. http://www.css3.info/preview/rounded-border/


Without WebKit's anti-aliasing as far as I can tell from Twitter  
posts. I'm wondering if this is due to webkit using platform specific  
code for things like this and text-shadow, as being a reason why they  
are not in Chrome (Safari on Windows has a compatibility layer), or if  
it is a older branch.  I'm thinking more the former.











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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Christian Montoya]

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:24 AM, David Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 3 Sep 2008, at 13:08, Todd Budnikas wrote:


 On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:19 AM, David Storey wrote:


 On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:42, tee wrote:


 On Sep 3, 2008, at 2:36 AM, David Storey wrote:


 On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:28, Regnard Raquedan wrote:

 Well, if it's akin to Safari, then it's as good as testing it there,
 right? :)

 Or is it...?

 No, it has a different JavaScript engine, and doesn't support a number
 of things the regular WebKit supports, such as text-shadow, @font-face 
 and a
 few others.


 Does it support border-radius or -webkit-radius?

 no browsers support border-radius.  It does support
 -webkit-border-radius, as far as I know (I'm running on Mac and parallels
 doesn't work on my 64-bit Vista, and I can't be bothered to do the few hours
 re-install process of Vista)

 -webkit-border-radius renders just fine. Running Chrome on XP on VMWare
 Fusion. http://www.css3.info/preview/rounded-border/

 Without WebKit's anti-aliasing as far as I can tell from Twitter posts. I'm
 wondering if this is due to webkit using platform specific code for things
 like this and text-shadow, as being a reason why they are not in Chrome
 (Safari on Windows has a compatibility layer), or if it is a older branch.
  I'm thinking more the former.


Could someone tell me if it has Google Download Accelerator or other
Google Toolbar features built in? I'm just wondering how much is under
the hood...

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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon... [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Michael Horowitz]

As we state in our terms of service, we don't claim ownership or control 
over your content in Google Docs  Spreadsheets, whether you're using it 
as an individual or through Google Apps. Read in its entirety, the 
sentence from our terms of service excerpted in the blog ensures that, 
for documents you expressly choose to share with others, we have the 
proper license to display those documents to the selected users and 
format documents properly for different displays. To be clear, Google 
will not use your documents beyond the scope that you and you alone 
control. Your fantasy football spreadsheets are not going to end up 
shared with the world unless you want them to be


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Rae Buerckner wrote:
If they don't have that functionality built in to chrome yet, they 
certainly have written themselves a license to built that in whenever 
they want to.


R

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Question: does Chrome actually record your browsing and send that
information back to Google or are people just freaking over nothing?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Andrew Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Tee,

 my take on the legal stuff as it may apply to bloggers and other
web content
 providers:


http://onblogging.com.au/2008/09/03/does-google-own-my-blog-if-i-post-through-chrome

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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Dejan Kozina]

I found out that the download server doesn't like download managers...
got the file twice - apparently intact and sane, but wouldn't run - with
Download Express. The same file downloaded the old and tested way (same
filesize and all) worked fine.
Hope this helps.

djn

Paul Collins wrote:
 Anyone else getting an initialisation error when I try to run the
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 but the message says The application failed to initialize properly,
 click OK to terminate when I start it up.
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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

[kevin erickson]

I have a huge concern about accessibility here. Apparently Jaws and other  
screen readers don't work on Google Chrome at all. Can others please  
confirm?


kevin


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Hi Kevin
I have written about some of the accessibility issues with google chrome:

http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=92

regards
stevef

2008/9/3 kevin erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I have a huge concern about accessibility here. Apparently Jaws and other
 screen readers don't work on Google Chrome at all. Can others please
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Re: [WSG] Google chrome...

[Aldona]

Christian,

No it doesn't come with Google toolbar. I'm not sure if Google 
Accelerator is built in without the user knowing but it did load the 
Acid 2 test really fast (and passed it). I did a review if anyone wants 
to read it. I wondered the same thing about the Google toolbar and am 
hoping they provide the ability for addons like firefox. (eg the 
del.icio.us extension!).


http://aldonasweblounge.net/blog/?p=90

IceKat

PS- Thanks to those who replied for my image display float issue. 
Display block-inline worked great but not in IE (darn ie) so I'm still 
thinking. Inline worked if I didn't want a border around the image and 
caption so thanks to those who helped me out. :)


Christian Montoya wrote:

Could someone tell me if it has Google Download Accelerator or other
Google Toolbar features built in? I'm just wondering how much is under
the hood...

  



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RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

[Steve Green]

Yes, this is the case. There has been a lot of talk about this in GAWDS, and
Steve Faulkner has written about it at
http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=92.

Basically it looks like there's no MSAA support. If they don't address this,
many large organisations (at least in the UK) will not use it. I imagine
that such organisations are exactly the people Google are expecting to build
applications using Chrome, so hopefully this will be addressed at some
point, ideally before it comes out of beta.

Steve 

 

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I have a huge concern about accessibility here. Apparently Jaws and other
screen readers don't work on Google Chrome at all. Can others please
confirm?

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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

[kevin erickson]

Thank you for the report Steve. It was very helpful!!

kevin

On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:23:15 -0400, Steve Green  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yes, this is the case. There has been a lot of talk about this in GAWDS,  
and

Steve Faulkner has written about it at
http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=92.

Basically it looks like there's no MSAA support. If they don't address  
this,

many large organisations (at least in the UK) will not use it. I imagine
that such organisations are exactly the people Google are expecting to  
build

applications using Chrome, so hopefully this will be addressed at some
point, ideally before it comes out of beta.

Steve


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Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

I have a huge concern about accessibility here. Apparently Jaws and other
screen readers don't work on Google Chrome at all. Can others please
confirm?

kevin


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RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

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Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2008 10:26 PM
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On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:24 AM, David Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 3 Sep 2008, at 13:08, Todd Budnikas wrote:


 On Sep 3, 2008, at 6:19 AM, David Storey wrote:


 On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:42, tee wrote:


 On Sep 3, 2008, at 2:36 AM, David Storey wrote:


 On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:28, Regnard Raquedan wrote:

 Well, if it's akin to Safari, then it's as good as testing it there,
 right? :)

 Or is it...?

 No, it has a different JavaScript engine, and doesn't support a number
 of things the regular WebKit supports, such as text-shadow, @font-face
and a
 few others.


 Does it support border-radius or -webkit-radius?

 no browsers support border-radius.  It does support
 -webkit-border-radius, as far as I know (I'm running on Mac and
parallels
 doesn't work on my 64-bit Vista, and I can't be bothered to do the few
hours
 re-install process of Vista)

 -webkit-border-radius renders just fine. Running Chrome on XP on VMWare
 Fusion. http://www.css3.info/preview/rounded-border/

 Without WebKit's anti-aliasing as far as I can tell from Twitter posts.
I'm
 wondering if this is due to webkit using platform specific code for things
 like this and text-shadow, as being a reason why they are not in Chrome
 (Safari on Windows has a compatibility layer), or if it is a older branch.
  I'm thinking more the former.


Could someone tell me if it has Google Download Accelerator or other
Google Toolbar features built in? I'm just wondering how much is under
the hood...

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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Michael MD]

Could someone tell me if it has Google Download Accelerator or other
Google Toolbar features built in? I'm just wondering how much is under
the hood...



not sure ... but poking around its directories I saw one for google gears...
.

btw I tried to save one of thumbnail images it generated on its Most 
visited page

- but ...  save image as doesn't work!
(and if I try to open it in another tab it dumps it out as if it were text 
... binary gibberish - wrong mime-type perhaps? ... and save as is 
disabled )

... it looks like they have a few bugs to fix...




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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[James Ellis]

Interesting to read the many comments on this. It's utilising Webkit as a 
rendering engine (also behind Safari and Konquerer 4), which is BSD and LGPL 
licensed. In turn Google say they are licensing Chrome as Open Source, meaning 
depending on the actual license, items like V8 (http://blogoscoped.com/google-
chrome/17)  other bits (http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/38) can be 
utilised in other browsers.

Interesting times and certainly more compelling and forward-thinking than 
Compatibility View ...

Cheers
James

On Tuesday 02 September 2008 12:06:33 russ - maxdesign wrote:
 Some of the many comments about the proposed new Google browser...

 http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html

 http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/

 http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-01-n47.html

 http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10029914-2.html

 http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_to_offer_its_own_browser_chrome
. php

 http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/new-google-browser-to-muscle-in-on-micro
s oft/2008/09/02/1220121183420.html

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RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Conyers, Dwayne]

There is an interesting and very humorous comic that describes Chrome:



http://books.google.com/books?id=8UsqHohwwVYCprintsec=frontcover#PPA19,M1



I like the multi-threading.





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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[James Jeffery]

I am looking forward to Google's Chrome browser.

I have been on many IRC channels today, and on many forums and everyones
talking about Chrome. Its got more hype than FF3 had, so lets hope it loves
up to the hype.


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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[tee]

On Sep 2, 2008, at 5:24 AM, James Ellis wrote:

Interesting to read the many comments on this. It's utilising Webkit  
as a rendering engine (also behind Safari and Konquerer 4), which is  
BSD and LGPL licensed. In turn Google say they are licensing Chrome  
as Open Source, meaning depending on the actual license, items like  
V8 (http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/17)  other bits (http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/38 
) can be utilised in other browsers.
Interesting times and certainly more compelling and forward-thinking  
than Compatibility View ...

Cheers
James

I really like to see that it magically repairs IE6 broken web, so that  
we can forever moving forward and it helps save IE team from  
implementing compatibility view in IE8. Hack!, they might just start  
thinking why do we wasting our time on IE8. Rumor has circling in  
Technorati, MSN, Diggit that the head of IE team was sending his  
resumé to google inc.


As for google, it will win over all big corp that use IE6 for their  
intranets. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has finally  realized the  
company has lost the web, and hence stopping all attempts trying to  
take over Yahoo. Bill Gates steps in, fires his CEO, gathers a group  
of talents from outer-space working on a project calls webXsPace, and  
release a press release, claiming: We will prevail, right here from  
where we have fallen down!.


15 yeas later, a new web technology emerges that will use no  
broadband, no 3G wireless and no monitor but  a pair of optical glass  
or contact lens (good for me as I already wear ones)


As for google, the company has moved its HQ to Mars since 2015.

Oh! I can't wait to download the Chrome.
tee

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[shaun]

 
Google chrome is available for windows download !

http://www.google.com/chrome



On Tue  2/09/08 10:18 PM , tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 2, 2008, at 5:24 AM, James Ellis wrote:
  Interesting to read the many comments on this. It's utilising
 Webkit  
  as a rendering engine (also behind Safari and Konquerer 4), which
 is  
  BSD and LGPL licensed. In turn Google say they are licensing
 Chrome  
  as Open Source, meaning depending on the actual license, items
 like  
  V8 (http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/17)  other bits
 (http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/38 
  ) can be utilised in other browsers.
  Interesting times and certainly more compelling and
 forward-thinking  
  than Compatibility View ...
  Cheers
  James
 
 I really like to see that it magically repairs IE6 broken web, so
 that  
 we can forever moving forward and it helps save IE team from  
 implementing compatibility view in IE8. Hack!, they might just start
 
 thinking why do we wasting our time on IE8. Rumor has circling in  
 Technorati, MSN, Diggit that the head of IE team was sending his  
 resumé to google inc.
 As for google, it will win over all big corp that use IE6 for their 
 
 intranets. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has finally  realized the  
 company has lost the web, and hence stopping all attempts trying to 
 
 take over Yahoo. Bill Gates steps in, fires his CEO, gathers a group
 
 of talents from outer-space working on a project calls webXsPace,
 and  
 release a press release, claiming: We will prevail, right here from 
 
 where we have fallen down!.
 15 yeas later, a new web technology emerges that will use no  
 broadband, no 3G wireless and no monitor but  a pair of optical
 glass  
 or contact lens (good for me as I already wear ones)
 As for google, the company has moved its HQ to Mars since 2015.
 Oh! I can't wait to download the Chrome.
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[tee]

On Sep 2, 2008, at 2:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Google chrome is available for windows download !

http://www.google.com/chrome


It has no Mac version!  :(

tee


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[Anthony]

Can't wait to get into the office!!!

Regards,
Anthony.

Sent from my iPhone!

On 03/09/2008, at 7:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Google chrome is available for windows download !

http://www.google.com/chrome



On Tue  2/09/08 10:18 PM , tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sep 2, 2008, at 5:24 AM, James Ellis wrote:

Interesting to read the many comments on this. It's utilising

Webkit

as a rendering engine (also behind Safari and Konquerer 4), which

is

BSD and LGPL licensed. In turn Google say they are licensing

Chrome

as Open Source, meaning depending on the actual license, items

like

V8 (http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/17)  other bits

(http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/38

) can be utilised in other browsers.
Interesting times and certainly more compelling and

forward-thinking

than Compatibility View ...
Cheers
James


I really like to see that it magically repairs IE6 broken web, so
that
we can forever moving forward and it helps save IE team from
implementing compatibility view in IE8. Hack!, they might just start

thinking why do we wasting our time on IE8. Rumor has circling in
Technorati, MSN, Diggit that the head of IE team was sending his
resumé to google inc.
As for google, it will win over all big corp that use IE6 for their

intranets. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has finally  realized the
company has lost the web, and hence stopping all attempts trying to

take over Yahoo. Bill Gates steps in, fires his CEO, gathers a group

of talents from outer-space working on a project calls webXsPace,
and
release a press release, claiming: We will prevail, right here from

where we have fallen down!.
15 yeas later, a new web technology emerges that will use no
broadband, no 3G wireless and no monitor but  a pair of optical
glass
or contact lens (good for me as I already wear ones)
As for google, the company has moved its HQ to Mars since 2015.
Oh! I can't wait to download the Chrome.
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[Bill Brown]

tee wrote:

Google chrome is available for windows download !
http://www.google.com/chrome

It has no Mac version!  :(


Nor Unix.

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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Anthony]

That was heavily talked about accross most topics already.

Regards,
Anthony.

Sent from my iPhone!

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On Sep 2, 2008, at 2:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Google chrome is available for windows download !

http://www.google.com/chrome


It has no Mac version!  :(

tee


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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Scott Elcomb]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:41 PM, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 2, 2008, at 2:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Google chrome is available for windows download !

 http://www.google.com/chrome

 It has no Mac version!  :(

Nor Linux!  (But they're coming... eventually.)
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RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Paul Bennett]

Unless you're behind a firewall which requires proxy auth. In this case, you'll 
need to wait until tonight :(

http://thingsilearn.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/attention-software-developers-dont-make-assumptions-about-my-internet-connection/



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RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Paul Bennett]

Hi Tee,

According to product info, it's been in private beta for a while.
This is the first public beta (well, to 100 or so countries anyway)

Rest assured a Mac ( *Nix ?) version will follow soon :)

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RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Spellacy, Michael]

Heh. Looks like somebody at Google is a big fan of Understanding Comics
By Scott McCloud. This is nice though.

Regards,
Spell

Michael Spellacy
Senior User Interface Developer
TMP Worldwide Advertising  Communications, LLC
205 Hudson Street, 5th Floor
New York, NY 10013

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There is an interesting and very humorous comic that describes Chrome:



http://books.google.com/books?id=8UsqHohwwVYCprintsec=frontcover#PPA19,
M1



I like the multi-threading.





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RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd]

Just downloaded it. Seems that yet another blue chip is using a browsing
phishing tool, this time it was to rely specific download instructions

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Spellacy, Michael
Sent: 02 September 2008 23:11
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Subject: RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

Heh. Looks like somebody at Google is a big fan of Understanding Comics
By Scott McCloud. This is nice though.

Regards,
Spell

Michael Spellacy
Senior User Interface Developer
TMP Worldwide Advertising  Communications, LLC
205 Hudson Street, 5th Floor
New York, NY 10013

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Conyers, Dwayne
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:23 AM
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Subject: RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

There is an interesting and very humorous comic that describes Chrome:



http://books.google.com/books?id=8UsqHohwwVYCprintsec=frontcover#PPA19,
M1



I like the multi-threading.





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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Michael Horowitz]

Just tried it.  It is fast.

Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
561-394-9079



Bill Brown wrote:

tee wrote:

Google chrome is available for windows download !
http://www.google.com/chrome

It has no Mac version!  :(


Nor Unix.




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RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon... [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Thomler, Craig]

I thought it was about the same speed as Firefox 3, though memory usage
is much improved and the multi-threading has improved the speed of web
apps running in multiple windows.

Of course they could bite the bullet and make it red - then it would be
faster...




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Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2008 10:02
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Just tried it.  It is fast.

Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
561-394-9079



Bill Brown wrote:
 tee wrote:
 Google chrome is available for windows download !
 http://www.google.com/chrome
 It has no Mac version!  :(

 Nor Unix.



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[Jeffery Lowder]

I know, I tired it on a couple of the more intensive ajax dependent  
pages I've been working on and it puts FF to shame.
If people realize how much faster they can surf the web - this thing  
is going to take off big time.




On 03/09/2008, at 10:01 AM, Michael Horowitz wrote:


Just tried it.  It is fast.

Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
561-394-9079



Bill Brown wrote:

tee wrote:

Google chrome is available for windows download !
http://www.google.com/chrome

It has no Mac version!  :(


Nor Unix.




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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[Blake]

Indeed. We have some very clunky sites and they loaded almost
instantly. I couldn't believe the rendering speed.

However Gmail won't load on any computers with Chrome on at work (in
fact, I can't sign in to any google services). Is this problem
affecting everyone or is it just our network? If it's affecting
everyone that's pretty massive fail for Google.

(e-mail sent from Gmail in Firefox!!)

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jeffery Lowder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know, I tired it on a couple of the more intensive ajax dependent pages 
 I've been working on and it puts FF to shame.
 If people realize how much faster they can surf the web - this thing is going 
 to take off big time.


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[Anton Babushkin]

Google Chrome wasn't working for me in the office either, but I think its
all due to the firewall and proxy that we have setup here. It couldn't seem
to negotiate between the proxy and the installer. I just hooked it up to an
outside ADSL connection (my work PC that is), and typing this Email through
Chrome right now :)
Its a brilliant browser, a true innovation to the way we use the web. Too
bad Java and Shockwave don't work on it yet.

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Indeed. We have some very clunky sites and they loaded almost
 instantly. I couldn't believe the rendering speed.

 However Gmail won't load on any computers with Chrome on at work (in
 fact, I can't sign in to any google services). Is this problem
 affecting everyone or is it just our network? If it's affecting
 everyone that's pretty massive fail for Google.

 (e-mail sent from Gmail in Firefox!!)

 On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jeffery Lowder
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I know, I tired it on a couple of the more intensive ajax dependent pages
 I've been working on and it puts FF to shame.
  If people realize how much faster they can surf the web - this thing is
 going to take off big time.


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[Jeffery Lowder]

working fine my end.



On 03/09/2008, at 10:43 AM, Blake wrote:


Indeed. We have some very clunky sites and they loaded almost
instantly. I couldn't believe the rendering speed.

However Gmail won't load on any computers with Chrome on at work (in
fact, I can't sign in to any google services). Is this problem
affecting everyone or is it just our network? If it's affecting
everyone that's pretty massive fail for Google.

(e-mail sent from Gmail in Firefox!!)

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jeffery Lowder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I know, I tired it on a couple of the more intensive ajax dependent  
pages I've been working on and it puts FF to shame.
If people realize how much faster they can surf the web - this  
thing is going to take off big time.



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[Ben Buchanan]

However Gmail won't load on any computers with Chrome on at work (in

fact, I can't sign in to any google services). Is this problem

affecting everyone or is it just our network? If it's affecting

everyone that's pretty massive fail for Google.

We had that problem here but it turned out to be a proxy issue.
Interestingly though it turns out that Chrome loads and edits the connection
settings from IE, instead of having its own settings.

It's truly Frankenstein's Browser: bits of Safari, Firefox and IE stitched
together into a new creature ;)

Did everyone get a laugh out of about:internets in Chrome? :)

cheers,

Ben

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[Blake]

Oh, the browser works fine. I can access everything except google
services which require me to login. It just attempts to redirect to
their authentication page and kind of... stops. Loads for a while then
nothing, just a blank white page.

Again, only Google services, so kind of epic fail.

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Anton Babushkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Google Chrome wasn't working for me in the office either, but I think its
 all due to the firewall and proxy that we have setup here. It couldn't seem
 to negotiate between the proxy and the installer. I just hooked it up to an
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[James Ellis]

You can grab the source from : http://code.google.com/chromium/  
http://dev.chromium.org/Home and  try to build it if you want ..

According to the site, it won't (yet) build fully on Mac or Linux 
(http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux) but I'm 
sure it'll happen soon with enough contributions.

Cheers
J

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  http://www.google.com/chrome
 
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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon... [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Rae Buerckner]

You might want to read this and think about uninstalling it ;)
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/does_google_have_rights_to_all.php

R

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Thomler, Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 I thought it was about the same speed as Firefox 3, though memory usage
 is much improved and the multi-threading has improved the speed of web
 apps running in multiple windows.

 Of course they could bite the bullet and make it red - then it would be
 faster...




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 Just tried it.  It is fast.

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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon... [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[tee]

On Sep 2, 2008, at 8:26 PM, Rae Buerckner wrote:


You might want to read this and think about uninstalling it ;) 
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/does_google_have_rights_to_all.php


Just my 2 cents who had hired two lawyers to draft out policy/ 
copyrights/contact  for my business.


The first one basically copied and pasted one of his client's policy  
to mine and forgotten to replace the company's name to min


The second that I recently hired, did something similar.

They charged 3 times more than I charge my clients.  It finally hits  
me that I must work hard on my English and learn to write the contact  
myself.


Maybe google had a lawyer like the two I encountered? :-)

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[Andrew Boyd]

Tee,

my take on the legal stuff as it may apply to bloggers and other web content
providers:
http://onblogging.com.au/2008/09/03/does-google-own-my-blog-if-i-post-through-chrome

Cheers, Andrew

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:39 PM, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Sep 2, 2008, at 8:26 PM, Rae Buerckner wrote:

 You might want to read this and think about uninstalling it ;)
 http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/does_google_have_rights_to_all.php


 Just my 2 cents who had hired two lawyers to draft out
 policy/copyrights/contact  for my business.

 The first one basically copied and pasted one of his client's policy to
 mine and forgotten to replace the company's name to min

 The second that I recently hired, did something similar.

 They charged 3 times more than I charge my clients.  It finally hits me
 that I must work hard on my English and learn to write the contact myself.

 Maybe google had a lawyer like the two I encountered? :-)

 tee

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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon... [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Blake]

Question: does Chrome actually record your browsing and send that
information back to Google or are people just freaking over nothing?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Andrew Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tee,

 my take on the legal stuff as it may apply to bloggers and other web content
 providers:
 http://onblogging.com.au/2008/09/03/does-google-own-my-blog-if-i-post-through-chrome

 Cheers, Andrew


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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon... [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Anton Babushkin]

people are just freaking over nothing.

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Question: does Chrome actually record your browsing and send that
 information back to Google or are people just freaking over nothing?

 On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Andrew Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tee,
 
  my take on the legal stuff as it may apply to bloggers and other web
 content
  providers:
 
 http://onblogging.com.au/2008/09/03/does-google-own-my-blog-if-i-post-through-chrome
 
  Cheers, Andrew


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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon... [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Rae Buerckner]

If they don't have that functionality built in to chrome yet, they certainly
have written themselves a license to built that in whenever they want to.

R

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Question: does Chrome actually record your browsing and send that
 information back to Google or are people just freaking over nothing?

 On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Andrew Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tee,
 
  my take on the legal stuff as it may apply to bloggers and other web
 content
  providers:
 
 http://onblogging.com.au/2008/09/03/does-google-own-my-blog-if-i-post-through-chrome
 
  Cheers, Andrew


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Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon... [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Blake]

Seems about par for the course.

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 people are just freaking over nothing.


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[WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...

[russ - maxdesign]

Some of the many comments about the proposed new Google browser...

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html

http://blogoscoped.com/google-chrome/

http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-01-n47.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10029914-2.html

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_to_offer_its_own_browser_chrome.
php

http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/new-google-browser-to-muscle-in-on-micros
oft/2008/09/02/1220121183420.html

Thanks
Russ




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