Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX Cabrillo log time

2023-05-12 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi!

Funny I had to read Alan's reply from mail archive (web), I did not get 
that mail at all.


if you calling CQ (TX1) and someone(s) answer to it qso starts from 
point you start first TX2 transmission (to any of answering stations).
It is very clear. There is no exchange happened yet, and your TX2 will 
start the exchange chain (= qso).

Same if you try to answer someones CQ. Once he sends first TX2 qso begins.

In case of missed TX2 receive you will get different start time than the 
opponent, that is true. How ever the base of qso starting definition is 
clear.


End time of qso is more or less unclear. It is clear (by rules) when 
both sides have exchanged reports and got confirmation to them.
You get confirmation with report as "R-xx" and you confirm it by sending 
"RRR" or "RR73".


What I mean "unclear" is that someone requires 73 after RRR or RR73 to 
see the qso complete, someone else do not.
There has been lot of conversation about this in past and I do not want 
to make another "split argue" with this.


My 5 cents is that _/qso /__/start time is easier to define/_ so that 
all can agree with definition and should be used with Cabrillo, like it 
is used with CW and phone, too.


How ever the periodical exchange and poor conditions can make big 
differences in log times. That is the thing that contest log checkers 
should take account when defining accepted time windows for qso checks 
with FT8 qsos. It is different than with CW/Phone.


And it is not getting any easier of one logging program uses "time_on" 
and other "time_off" when producing Cabrillo log.


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Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 11.5.2023 klo 10.08:

Hi Saku and Alan,

I think that Alan already pointed a least indirectly that the definition of
the actual start time is a bit more difficult than a defining end time.
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[wsjt-devel] WSJTX Cabrillo log time

2023-05-11 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

HI!

Just worked a short OH-FT8 contest that uses "NA VHF" settings with WSJT-X.
I had my logging program using UDP remote connect to WSJT-X and once 
contest was over I created Cabrillo logs. From WSJT-X and from my 
logging program. Just to compare.


Then I started to wonderwhy logs differ?

Further investigation from WSJT-X adi log showed out that WSJT-X uses 
"time_off" as Cabrillo time, while my logging program uses "time_on" for it.
Difference, when it happens, is usually 1-2 minutes. But if it happens, 
in very poor conditions, that completing qso needs many periods that 
time difference may grow to several minutes, I think. (Depending on used 
contest format. NA VHF is quite straight, while EU VHF has a period more 
to exchange)


I checked Cabrillo definitions from wwrof.org but there seems to be no 
definition about QSO record time (start or end of qso).
That is perhaps because in traditional CW or Phone contests the time is 
always QSO start time as qsos take only few seconds.


FT8 world is a bit different, or is it anyway?

On what bases it has been chosen that WSJT-X uses qso end time as 
Cabrillo time?



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Fwd: Enhancement suggestion - 30 second cycles

2023-05-03 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Oh, what a sandstorm!


I write once more as I got an idea that perhaps clears out, or not, way 
of thinking for those who are not RF experts.


We all know, (do we?), what SDR rig is. Look for webSDR receives 
(Googling...) it gives a view if SDR is not familiar.


OK!
WSJT-X software turns your old war horse (rig) to a narrow band SDR 
receiver adding a new IF stage 200-3000Hz to it, depending your rig's 
audio fllter passband. WIth old rigs it can be just over 2000Hz, with 
new ones nearly 4000Hz.


Using waterfall you can tune your SDR receiver, the green marker, to 
receive a certain station. As being an SDR receiver you naturally can 
receive also other stations over whole (audio) IF at same time.


But the one you tune in by moving green marker is your receiving frequency.
Same way you tune your transmitter by moving red marker. If you have 
"hold TX freq" checked you and set your TX where ever you want over the 
(audio) IF.
In that case you will have a split qso where you transmit on different 
frequency as you receive.


If you set your TX red marker over the green marker, or have "hold TX 
freq" unchecked when software does the TX moving, you will have normal 
one frequency qso, no split.


The nature of SSB, as explained here, is to produce a carrier to dial 
frequency+audio frequency (when using USB). Properly tuned SSB rig does 
not send the dial frequency carrier, it is muted by balanced modulator, 
it sends just the dial frequency+audio frequency product. The width of 
carrier is the width of FT8 signal, 50Hz.



Perhaps thinking wsjtx software as additional IF stage that gives also 
for old rig some SDR properties could be good way to approach this off 
topic subject.




"Split operation" in settings has nothing to do with this. It is 
wsjt-x's "artificial intelligence" to optimize TX audio filter usage, if 
user allows it by selecting "rig" or "fake it".
Whether or not this "artificial intelligence" is used it does not change 
your RX and TX tuning (red and green markers) on RF spectrum, I.E. does 
not cause any "split".
Test with frequency counter. Your TX RFcarrier does not change when 
selecting "none", "rig" or "fake it".



And now this subject has been done by me.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Fwd: Enhancement suggestion - 30 second cycles

2023-04-30 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 28.4.2023 klo 15.03:

Saku, split on WSJT-X means that WSJT-X can automatically adjust your 
frequency so that your transmit audio is always somewhere within the 
middle of the audio bandpass.


73,

Sam W2JDB



Hi Sam!

Split, what Google translate says, means "divide by parts". And that it 
is when we are talking about split in Ham radio. I.E. Transmit on other 
frequency as listen, just like Reino says.


When using sideband modulation (USB/LSB) the RF frequency is tied to 
audio slot frequency. That is: dumped RF carrier +/- audio frequency 
depending on sideband used. If we change audio slot we change RF 
frequency that means we are using "split" in means what is in Ham radio.


Using the thoughtlessly named "split operation" of wsjt-x/settings/radio 
has NO effect to RF frequency that is produced. It is always the same as 
"split operation", when used, adjusts the ratio of RF carrier to audio 
frequency to keep the produced RF frequency always the same while 
centering the audio frequency in middle of AF filter passband.


Better would have been to call "settings/radio/split operation" as:

"Optimize audio passband":  none,  using 2 vfos,  adjust 1 vfo

That would have been less confusing, just like Jim says.


But that was not the subject after all.
We were talking about the benefits of having randomized frequency on TX1 
and TX6.
Reino states that using random TX could prevent neighbor station to 
complete his DX qso. Well, I do not think so.
TX1 and TX6 jumping may disturb neighbor, but only one time. Next 
transmit is again on different frequency. Unless the qso is established 
and TX locked.


But that is life. It is not worse than losing DX because band polices 
"trying to keep DX frequency clear" causing most qrm by them self.


And usually very close neighbors are using same period for TX when there 
is no harm at all. That is the best benefit of FT8 DXing: keeping the TX 
periods organized, mostly. There always are someones that think that 
transmitting on other period than others could catch DX better.


Ok, now the original subject is splitting again. Best to QRT.

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[wsjt-devel] Fwd: Enhancement suggestion - 30 second cycles

2023-04-28 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel



How do you know that?
Perhaps on low bands but higher HF bands you can not hear others near 
by. Besides most of qsos are running "split" Station A on different 
audio frequency slot as opponent B.


I would rather see improvement where CQ (TX6) and answer to CQ (TX1) 
would be randomized. So that every CQ, or every try to answer other's CQ 
would happen on different audio slot. If qso is established then TX 
audlo would be locked to current audio slot for qso.



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Jim Brown via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 28.4.2023 klo 0.53:

Likewise, if we call CQ (or another station) for more than a few calls 
without a response, it's good operating practice to pause for at least 
one cycle to check what's happening on your frequency.


73, Jim K9YC 



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Re: [wsjt-devel] UDP Status #1 message while typing DX call (bug?)

2023-02-21 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Laurie, VK3AMA via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 21.2.2023 klo 13.06:
This is not a bug. WSJT-X has always behaved this way, emitting a UDP 
status message with each character typed.

I would not like to see this long-standing behavior changed.

de Laurie VK3AMA
(JTAlert author)


Like always; I guessed that!

What is set in stone, stands there.
I do highly prefer backward compatibility, but but fixing this does not 
break anything. I expect nobody is interested in partial callsigns.


There is also another "feature" that is not so nice. (but I know it is 
also set in stone and I do not expect this to be fixed. Just want to 
show it too)
If you send UDP #4 or #15 to set new target call status #1 will first 
reply with old call and immediate after that the new call that was set


Getting Call : by UDP #1
Getting Call : by UDP #1
*Settting call: IU8CFX by UDP #4 * <--setting new target call
/Getting Call : by UDP #1/**the immediate response is *existing old call*
*Getting Call :IU8CFX by UDP #1***right after that comes the call that 
was set**

Getting Call :IU8CFX by UDP #1
Getting Call :IU8CFX by UDP #1
Getting Call :IU8CFX by UDP #1
Getting Call :IU8CFX by UDP #1
Getting Call :IU8CFX by UDP #1
Getting Call :IU8CFX by UDP #1
*Settting call: JE8VZK by UDP #4* <--setting new target call
/Getting Call :IU8CFX by UDP #1/ **the immediate response is *existing 
old call**
**Getting Call :JE8VZK by UDP #1*    right after that comes the call 
that was set

Getting Call :JE8VZK by UDP #1

Usually clients do response either with ACK or echoing the sent message. 
At least in industrial world that I used to while still working.
Due to these the companion program must fix things with timeout timers 
to guess when proper responses are available from wsjt-x.


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[wsjt-devel] UDP Status #1 message while typing DX call (bug?)

2023-02-21 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi!

Found annoying property of UDP Status (#1) message.

If you enter new callsign to DXCall column the new status message is 
sent after every letter you type. This makes receiving program very hard 
to decide when there is complete callsign available. (needs timeout 
routine because of this)


I do not know if same happens with DXGrid (not tested, because not 
needed grid now). Assume it can happen too.


Expected status message with entered callsign to be *generated when 
cursor leaves* DXCall column.


Not before. Thank you!

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Re: [wsjt-devel] 3Y0J F/H operation - was my "R+rpt" report received ?

2023-02-18 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

That may also depend on RX tuning.

If you put VFO a bit off from reported frequency the audio will appear 
in different place.
I do often tune a bit off to get Fox little bit higher in audio for 
better copy.


And for the three times R without RR73 and move to higher frequency 
(below 1kHz):
Qso is still possible. I have had some Foxes not hearing my R and then I 
was moved up but kept giving R for some time (not very long). With good 
results; the RR73 has come after a while. I do not know if this requires 
something from Fox operator, but anyway I have got proper qso then (no 
luck with 3Y0J at all).


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Fred Carvalho via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 17.2.2023 klo 20.52:


John is right. I have never seen 3Y0J transmitting that high. He was 
actually below (300-400Hz).




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Re: [wsjt-devel] 3Y0J strange F/H operation

2023-02-16 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Jim Shorney via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 16.2.2023 klo 15.05:

So you do the best you can with what little you have. Who knows, maybe their 
GPS was in one of the boxs left on the boat. It seems unfair to criticize when 
none of us was there.


No critics, done what was possible.
How ever it seems to be that it was hard to find out just period sized 
time drift.


I assume they had some kind of communication between boat and camp. 
Perhaps 2m. Boat has Gps for navigation. And from that you can see the 
time within one second. It would not be too hard to give time from boat 
to camp via radio and then manually set PC clock.

Accuracy within one second. (enough).

But I am sure they had enough other things to think about.

On the other hand it was very easy to enable "Tx Even/1st" checkbox in 
hound mode and recompile. After that no problem with wrong period. 
(still no qso...)



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Logging of mixed data if you do QSO with two stations

2023-02-16 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel


Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 15.2.2023 klo 22.17:

Yeah!


HI!

Cqrlog wsjtx-remote can support only one remote wsjtx at time. Using 
multicast UDP I think you can have several wsjtxs sending to Cqrlog, but 
you have already found the problem that arises.
The remote code is very primitive and about 5 years old. SomeOne™ should 
rewrite it if new features are needed.


How ever you can have a workaround using own Cqrlog for every wsjtx you 
are running. They all can use same MariaDB log database that should 
handle multiple SQL users (Cqrlogs).
Do not use UDP multicast, instead use localhost IP and own port 
definition for every Cqrlog-Wsjtx pair that are running. That should do 
the trick, I think. (not tested).  How ever there are some settings that 
may do things easier, but this mailing list is not the place to go them 
through.


Off topic:
Cqrlog has no accepted pull requests since Aug 2022. I can only guess 
the reasons.
My Alpha test version, "loc_testing" (in my GItHub) is now 209 commits 
ahead of official source. This means that code is on edge. Getting 
official version in sync with Alpha begins to be too big job. That's why 
I have stopped to add latest fixes as pull requests to official because 
the code difference is too big. They appear only in my Alpha that I am 
using here locally.


Cqrlog is for Linux, not for Windoze. But it is open source, so it is 
free for W-programmers to try. I do not have any Windozes in house.


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[wsjt-devel] Who was I working with???

2023-02-13 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi!

Very strange qso in 10m with J8/AJ4YX. Or was it really AJ4YX after all?

-Fedora 37
-Wsjtx 2.6.1  (compiled from source)
-rigctl Hamlib 4.6~git tammi 19 05:32:18Z 2023 SHA=268f44 (compiled from 
source)

-ICOM IC7300

The callsign of AJ4YX varied as <...>, ,  and  
in ALL.TXT and screen.

Who I actually was working with?

And in addition ALL.TXT says that I was receiving on 28.026MHz and 
Transmitting on 28.091MHz !


You can see ALL.TXT, printscreen and wsjtx log and adi all in same pdf at:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BA5_55PpZArKEqLdd-nLvEIw-44ml8fJ/view?usp=share_link 




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Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.6.0-rc5 reporting

2022-12-23 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

I just wonder...

We did qso on 144.150 (qsy by vfo knob). After qso I moved back to 
144.174 that is saved to wsjtx/frequencies.
Because wsjtx sends heard calls to pskreporter as a "block" time to time 
I think the sending happened after our qso when I was again back on 144.174


I just wonder did it catch frequency from that moment, not at time when 
qso was held on 144.150


Note the difference frequencies, it is bigger than vfo +(-) audio 
frequency can produce.


Andrew Neumeier via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 23.12.2022 klo 16.44:

Saku,

My experience has been that pskreporter displays the frequency as 
received by the receiving station.  So, this would be display 
frequency plus the audio frequency used for the qso.
Sometimes the two are not the same, for instance, your transmit 
frequency and that of the other station may differ.  This is because 
of small differences in frequency of the rigs used during
the qso.  Also, on 144Mhz, some folks, like me, use a transverter to 
put them on 2 meters.  My transverter is always a little off 
frequency.  I've seen no difference in the reporting frequencies no matter

the version of WSJT-X.

Hope this helps.

73,
Andy, ka2uqw


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[wsjt-devel] 2.6.0-rc5 reporting

2022-12-23 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi!

I worked a local qso on 144.150 using FT8 (that was displayed on WSJT-X 
frequency reading)


Afterwards I looked at pskreporter where both our calls were reported on 
144.175
I.E. frequency that was stored WSJT-X band quick settings (144.174) + 
audio frequency.


Now question is:

Does reporting use stored quick setting frequency or true frequency that 
is received via CAT ?

In case of former one: Is this bug or not?

Wsjtx-rc5
Fedora 35
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.6.0-rc5

2022-11-30 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel
Builds and runs also in Fedora36 /LXDE but now main window is even wider 
than before.
And there is no way to make it narrower after startup as before, except 
when HOUND mode is selected.
Then it can be set as narrow as rc4, but when returning from HOUND it 
gets wider again and does not allow resizing.


Graphics is getting worse direction now!

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Josh Rovero via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 30.11.2022 klo 0.15:

Builds and runs fine on Fedora Core 37 Linux, 64-bit.

And the ALL_WSPR.TXT incorrect transmit band issue looks like it's fixed.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature request: Contest name

2022-10-15 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

HI Larry!

I am a Linux user.
I worked last 15 years with Windoze servers and clients versions up to 
W7. When retired I do not have any need to touch them any more. Linux 
has Wine, but I do not have any need to run Windoze programs via it.


Cqrlog has it all. And what it does not have I can program to it.

Now it is just a question that if user could define a contest name at 
WSJT-X end and that would be transferred via UDP datagram to external 
logging program there would be no need to fix those entries in log later on.


Now the UDP datagram sends those default, fixed, contest names that are 
in "settings/Advanced/Special operating activity".


Of course I could fix this at Cqrlog's side with few lines of code, but 
I prefer that the origin of qso data (I.E. WSJT-X) should offer this as 
user defined option. It already has fields like "operator" and 
"Propagation mode" , so why not "contest name" ?



(This will be my last reply of this subject for this list. PM to 
continue discussion)


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Larry Banks via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 14.10.2022 klo 16.23:

Hi Saku,

It is much easier to use a proper contest logging program. There are 
many out there.  I use the programs from N3FJP -- they are easy to set 
up and use.  They do everything you need.


Larry / W1DYJ
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature request: Contest name

2022-10-14 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

HI Jim!

No Windozes in house.

I use Cqrlog for logging and at the moment WSJT-X is sending a contest 
name in UDP logging frame to Cqrlog that can not be defined.
That's why I always need to fix contest names of FT8 qsos afterwards 
with Cqrlog's group edit to be similar with all other modes used in contest.


It would be lovely to define correct name already at WSJT-X logging 
window and retain that.


Jim Brown via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 14.10.2022 klo 12.13:

Hi Saku,

There are logging programs that keep track of contests. I log contests 
with N1MM+ (Freeware), export the log to DXKeeper (FREEware), choose 
from a dropdown menu in the DXKeeper Import screen what contest it's 
from and choose the log file. That's all it takes! And when you're 
ready to upload to LOTW, eQSL, or ClubLog, DXKeeper does that with a 
button-push once you've set yourself up those logging sites.


I suspect that other logging programs also do some or all of this; I 
have more than 300,000 QSOs in DXKeeper since getting back on the air 
in 2003.


73, Jim K9YC 


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[wsjt-devel] Feature request: Contest name

2022-10-14 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi!

Sorry if this feature exist. I did not find a mention about it from user 
guide.


There are now several contests that use WSJT-X contest modes. It would 
be nice to have user defined contest name to logging window.
That way name logged (also via UDP message) could be set by contest. And 
maybe also add a date to name if several contests are kept in same 
external log making them easier to find by the name of contest.


Just worked contest "NAC-6m_10/2022" that uses EU VHF mode. So my 
external log has now contest name "NAC-6m_10/2022" with all CW and SSB 
qsos, but "EU VHF" with FT8 qsos that have to be changed manually 
afterwards.


Good place for contest name would be either:

Make "operator" column smaller and set "contest name" after that on 
right side.


or

Below "propagation mode".

In both cases "retain" checbox is needed too.


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[wsjt-devel] Second wsjt-x2.6.0-rc4-Linux64 Hound issue

2022-09-18 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

(second try to send this message. 1st one did not show up on list)

Hi!

Found also another issue:

If wsjt-x is closed with Hound-mode running the *next start will 
activate hound-mode again* (tested that by setting TX under 1000Hz and 
started TX. It jumped random ove 1000Hz) *but the mainwidow view is mixed*.


Red "hound" text stays there, but there is also "Hold TX frequency" visible.
In addition to that the button "H" is not colored as should.

Pressing "H" button will color it and also remove "Hold TX frequency".

Tested that with clean start to be sure that any of my settings could 
effect that:


wsjtx -r testing
Then set callsign, locator,rig,audio and hound mode on.
Out of settings -> stopped wsjtx
Started again:
wsjtx -r testing

View can be repeated.


Fedora release 35 (Thirty Five)
wsjt-x2.6.0-rc4 self compiled, source from 
https://git.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx (same day as Hamlib below)

rigctl Hamlib 4.5~git fri sep 16 13:33:51 2022 + SHA=b1d132

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Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjt-x2.6.0-rc4-Linux64 Hound issue

2022-09-18 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel
OH1MRR suggested that because FH/OK1M does use pure wsjt-x it causes the 
problem.


Could be he is using other software, but as far as I can understand 
mainwindow.ccp lines 3930 -  3960 do not care is the Fox true fox or mshv.
If that is the reason, then the problem lays somewhere else in code. 
3930 -  3960 should pass it ok through.


But as said my C is not very good, and I have not followed the whole 
receiving chain yet.




I sent another bug report too. But it is not passed to devel list. At 
least yet. It had small screen part capture included.



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Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjt-x2.6.0-rc4-Linux64 Hound issue

2022-09-18 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Black Michael kirjoitti 18.9.2022 klo 16.59:
I think it's because your callsign is being hashed and the logic is 
not allowing for a hashed callsign.


This section removes hash marks from the foxCall -- but not my_callsign.


I had plain call OH1KH (or OH1KJ) there. When my call is hashed it is 
done by wsjt-x and as far as I can see it does not affect to this bug.
If wsjt-x generates them for me it should not effect the start of reply 
to Fox or ending the qso because then fox is hashed, *not mycall.

*

220918_114600    21.091 Rx FT8    -15  0.8  443*OH1KJ  -14 < 
that is when wsjt-x should react and start my TX3*

220918_114600    21.091 Rx FT8    -16  0.8  382  FH/OK1M RR73
220918_114615    21.091 Tx FT8  0  0.0 2113  OH1KJ KP01 
*220918_114619    21.091 Tx FT8  0  0.0 2113  OH1KJ R-15  < 
here clicked rx line to get TX3 running


So it is not so easy as you say.

I have found the part of code where FOX call is srtipped from "< >". But 
this Fox call has still slash after stripping.
How ever it looks that at the part of stripping "< >" does not look 
slash existence there.
Could it be in somewhere else than between mainwindow.ccp lines 3930 -  
3960 that makes TX3 start / stop fail?


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[wsjt-devel] Second wsjt-x2.6.0-rc4-Linux64 Hound issue

2022-09-18 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi!

Found also another issue:

If wsjt-x is closed with Hound-mode running the *next start will 
activate hound-mode again* (tested that by setting TX under 1000Hz and 
started TX. It jumped random ove 1000Hz) *but the mainwidow view is mixed*.



As you can see red "hound" stays there, but there is also "Hold TX 
frequency" visible.

In addition to that the button "H" is not colored as should.

Pressing "H" button will color it and also remove "Hold TX frequency".

Tested that with clean start to be sure that any of my settings could 
effect that:


wsjtx -r testing
Then set callsign, locator,rig,audio and hound mode on.
Out of settings -> stopped wsjtx
Started again
wsjtx -r testing

View can be repeated.


Fedora release 35 (Thirty Five)
wsjt-x2.6.0-rc4 self compiled, source from 
https://git.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx (same day as Hamlib below)

rigctl Hamlib 4.5~git fri sep 16 13:33:51 2022 + SHA=b1d132


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Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjt-x2.6.0-rc4-Linux64 Hound issue

2022-09-18 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel
 OK1M HL5NBM PM45
220918_114745    21.091 Rx FT8 -7  1.0 2705  JH7RTQ QM07

Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 18.9.2022 klo 15.18:
Can you post the relevant section of ALL.TXT with your QSO data 
including all the other decodes around that too?


Mike W9MDB




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Hi!

Just worked FH/OK1M on 21.091 using hound mode.
After called a while I got answer, but wsjtx just continued calling.

I had manually click on the received report line and after that wsjtx
moved to proper TX frequency and started to give R-report.

When I got RR73 wsjtx just continued to send R-report and had to stop
manually.

After that I closed wsjtx, compiled it again (without my own patches)
and worked FH/OK1M again with my XYL's callsign.
Just same errors then, as expected, bug is not in my patches that do not
effect this part of operation.
I assume bug lays somewhere in the original source code. Those who can
do better with C should look the code.

I have feeling that I have seen similar error report somewhere with
earlier wsjt-x versions.

Fedora release 35 (Thirty Five)
wsjt-x2.6.0-rc4 self compiled, source from
https://git.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx (same day as Hamlib below)
rigctl Hamlib 4.5~git fri sep 16 13:33:51 2022 + SHA=b1d132

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[wsjt-devel] wsjt-x2.6.0-rc4-Linux64 Hound issue

2022-09-18 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi!

Just worked FH/OK1M on 21.091 using hound mode.
After called a while I got answer, but wsjtx just continued calling.

I had manually click on the received report line and after that wsjtx 
moved to proper TX frequency and started to give R-report.


When I got RR73 wsjtx just continued to send R-report and had to stop 
manually.


After that I closed wsjtx, compiled it again (without my own patches) 
and worked FH/OK1M again with my XYL's callsign.
Just same errors then, as expected, bug is not in my patches that do not 
effect this part of operation.
I assume bug lays somewhere in the original source code. Those who can 
do better with C should look the code.


I have feeling that I have seen similar error report somewhere with 
earlier wsjt-x versions.


Fedora release 35 (Thirty Five)
wsjt-x2.6.0-rc4 self compiled, source from 
https://git.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx (same day as Hamlib below)

rigctl Hamlib 4.5~git fri sep 16 13:33:51 2022 + SHA=b1d132

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Re: [wsjt-devel] transmission by udp

2022-08-18 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

It has it's sides...

I have monitor in Cqrlog where every decoded transmission (CQ or qso) is 
compared against my log. Callsigns and grids are color coded by working 
status (this band, other band, other mode , never) and it also shows 
decodes including ongoing qso in brackets.


With earlier version of wsjtx I was able to "preload" std messages by 
double click on line with decode in brackets and be polite not 
disturbing the qso and also not loading already crowded frequency. Then 
fire my TX when ongoing qso is ending.


Now I have to uncheck "Hold TX frequency" first then double click and 
then check "Hold TX frequency" again to make same thing.


Well, I think I have to look how I can restore old behavior. C is no my 
strongest languages but I think I can do it with some testing.

A thing to do during cold dark winter days.

Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 17.8.2022 klo 15.45:
That change also makes working with JTAlert and such programs MUCH 
more friendly.


Don't throw the baby out with the bath waterif some actor wants to 
create a bot just ignore them


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Hi!

BTW, now version 2.6.0rc2 has property that if "Hold TX frequency" is 
checked sending an UDP frame created from decode of station keeping 
QSO can start TX. Previously it just "preloaded" Std. messages and 
moved RX to station frequency but did not fire transmitter.


I see this as bad thing as it is now very easy to create an external 
program that checks log and if callsign or locator is not in log start 
calling and make automated qso that way.


I hope it will be returned back as it was before v2.6

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Carey Fisher via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 17.8.2022 klo 1.28:

Hopefully, no one here will help you develop a WSJTX bot.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 5:39 PM eduardo via wsjt-devel 
<mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:


I am developing a program in php


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Re: [wsjt-devel] transmission by udp

2022-08-16 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi!

BTW, now version 2.6.0rc2 has property that if "Hold TX frequency" is 
checked sending an UDP frame created from decode of station keeping QSO 
can start TX. Previously it just "preloaded" Std. messages and moved RX 
to station frequency but did not fire transmitter.


I see this as bad thing as it is now very easy to create an external 
program that checks log and if callsign or locator is not in log start 
calling and make automated qso that way.


I hope it will be returned back as it was before v2.6

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Carey Fisher via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 17.8.2022 klo 1.28:

Hopefully, no one here will help you develop a WSJTX bot.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 5:39 PM eduardo via wsjt-devel 
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I am developing a program in php


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Watchdog timer for F/H?

2022-07-29 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel
This is interesting. It seems that my ISP is dropping some mails (not 
even in trash folder) and I have missed the beginning of this chain.


But to the subject:

Timer is good, but I have suggested (without any comment) few times to 
randomize hound transmit frequency. That would keep "big guns" in move 
and maybe give change for smaller stations to get free slot for every 
now and then.


The code is there already. I have done "rndHound" for myself with just 
few additional lines. Works fine and randomizes my transmit frequency 
for every period.
With checkbox user could select to sit on same frequency all the time, 
or randomize it for every calling period.
When QSO is established it works like before selecting the slot where 
Fox replies below 1000Hz. Randomize does not have effect for ongoing QSO.


Gary McDuffie via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 29.7.2022 klo 0.10:

You’re talking about defeating the timer, which is there for a reason.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] V. 2.6 Error and Crash

2022-07-27 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

I can also confirm sudden crash of wsjtx where JT9 process left running.
It did happen when I was playing with new mode buttons. I pressed 
several buttons during one receive period and suspect that caused the crash.

How ever I could not reproduce it any more after restart.

My setup is Fedora 35

Dennis W1UE via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 28.7.2022 klo 3.39:

Mike
I wrote this up and submitted it a week ago.  I could not find any 
sequence of events to cause  the WSJT window to suddenly close.  I 
found it took anywhere from 15min to 3 hrs between crashes.  I also 
get a TCP error when it closes, as I have wsjt mated to N1mm+ for logging.


Dennis W1UE

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So I posted to this list a few weeks ago about the problem with
2.6rc1 suddenly crashing, and to restart ending a JT9 process
through task manager.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjtx-2.6.0-rc2

2022-07-23 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

It seems that:

https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx-2.6.0-rc2.tgz
and
git clone https://git.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx

differ.

Both source's release notes are talking about "-rc2" but there are 
differences in source contents in several files.
Assuming git is not fully up to date. (But has parts of rc2, at least 
Release notes ;-).


Saku via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 23.7.2022 klo 15.59:


HI!

With Fedora 35:

 git clone https://git.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx

and after that making compile gives:


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Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjtx-2.6.0-rc2

2022-07-23 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

HI!

With Fedora 35:

 git clone https://git.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx

and after that making compile gives:

Rick via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 23.7.2022 klo 11.02:


Hi Jarmo,

I compiled from sources too.  Worked OK for me

Check your install.

Rick (GM4JIB)On 23/07/2022 08:15, jarmo via wsjt-devel wrote:



Don't know, if anyone else have this, but compiled wsjtx
from wsjtx-2.6.0-rc2.tgz.
Still, when starting wsjtx I get wsjtx-2.6.0-rc1???
What I'm missing???

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib testing

2022-06-06 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

No...

It does not work. Pulled a few moments ago:

[saku@hamtpad ~]$ rigctld --version
rigctl Hamlib 4.5~git ma kesä 06 15:16:37 2022 + SHA=037384

Here you see what happens: "split - rig", "Allow frequency changes while 
transmitting" checked. Icom 7300


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UnAzY5DiJAs53iko-xRWERWm0pk7Njw9/view?usp=sharing

Starting with TX around 500 makes rig freq 50.311,5.
Then moving TX to 2800 that moves WSJTX display to 50.314.0 but rig freq 
stays 50.311,5
After TX period ends WSJX shows 50.313.0 as should, but rig jumps now to 
50.314.0 that it should have done when audio moved 500->2800 while TX, 
not now when RX period is started.


This is worse now as before rig did move while transmitting, but return 
to RX went to wrong frequency. (1 bug)
Now rig does not move while transmitting and return to RX goes still 
wrong.  (2 bugs)


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Yep! I have it.

I will make pull after weekend and see what that brings.

Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 3.6.2022 klo 19.50:

You can get the absolute latest with git clone

git clone https://github.com/Hamlib/Hamlib.git


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib testing

2022-06-04 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Yep! I have it.

I will make pull after weekend and see what that brings.

Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 3.6.2022 klo 19.50:

You can get the absolute latest with git clone

git clone https://github.com/Hamlib/Hamlib.git


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib testing

2022-06-03 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

No can do... :-D

Fedora 35, no Windozes in this house.

Last tested version was: hamlib-4.5~git-a468f0de-20220603.tar.gz



Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 3.6.2022 klo 16.39:
In that case please use this DLL and send me the debug log as 
described below.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/7aejdv74nfjxr0q/libhamlib-4.dll?dl=0

Please place this file as described below
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t52ngcalsgnpm8m/wsjtx_log_config.ini?dl=0

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\WSJT-X
The WSJT-X_Rigcontrol.log file will be in the same location
For Linux put it in
~/.config
The WSJT-X_Rigcontrol.log file will be here:
~/.local/share/WSJT-X
Restart WSJT-X and duplicate the problem.
Shut down WSJT-X

Then send me the WSJT-X_RigControl.log file
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Sorry but it does not work. It is even worse.

Interesting side effect was that after installing new Hamlib ic7300 
lost output power when rigctld was started from scirpt before wsjtx.

Even rebooting pc did not restore power.
When killed rigctld from script and set wsjtx to use icom7300 serial 
USB instead of Net Hamlib rigctld I got output power back.
After that changed wsjtx back to Hamlib rigctld and started rigctld 
from script output power was normal.
Perhaps resetting ic7300 would do the same (?) (I have feeling this 
has happened sometimes before and fixed in same way)


But to the point.

Now when moving TX Hz from waterfall from edge to another while 
transmit is ON the wsjtx frequency display changes but rig's display 
does not change.
And when RX period starts rig stays on TX frequency that was at the 
beginning of TX period, not the one it was moved during TX.


Before:  Rig TX frequency changed, but RX was at last TX frequency (at 
the end on TX period)


Now:    Rig TX frequency does not change, while wsjtx frequency 
display changes, and RX is at first TX frequency (at the start of TX 
period)



Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 3.6.2022 klo 15.09:
It has been fixed.

http://n0nb.users.sourceforge.net/ <http://n0nb.users.sourceforge.net/>

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On Friday, June 3, 2022, 05:03:29 AM CDT, Kari Sillanmäki via 
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Hi Saku, Michael, Mike et al

I can duplicate this behaviour reported by Saku on my 7300.

I'm  using the rigctld-wsjtx bundled with WSJT-X 2.5.4 source tarball 
on Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS.


This seems to be a defect in hamlib; RX-frequency should always stay put.

73's de Kari, oh2gqc

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Subject:
Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib testing
From:
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Date:
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Hi Michael !

Could you test with your IC-7300 this way:

set "split rig" and check "Allow TX frequency changes while 
transmitting" in settings/general tab


Set your TX around 300Hz by shift+left click on waterfall. Start TX 
period and while your TX is on move your TX around 2800Hz by 
shift+left click on waterfall.


When TX period is over does your RX return to selected (from band 
selector) frequency?
Mine does not, it gets the TX (vfoB) frequency that must then be 
corrected with band selector back to right RX frequency.


This happens if I have settings/Radio configured as ICOM 7300, or if 
I have started rigctld with script before starting wsjtx and then 
using Hamlib Net rigctld/localhost:4532 in settings/Radio.


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5p1kzx Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 2.6.2022 klo 18.32:


Hi Everyone

I have tested new the Hamlib with WSJT-X and JTDX in RIG and Fake 
It. I tested it with IC-7300, IC-7000 and IC-706Mk2g - behaviour as 
expected and no problems so far.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib testing

2022-06-03 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Sorry but it does not work. It is even worse.

Interesting side effect was that after installing new Hamlib ic7300 lost 
output power when rigctld was started from scirpt before wsjtx.

Even rebooting pc did not restore power.
When killed rigctld from script and set wsjtx to use icom7300 serial USB 
instead of Net Hamlib rigctld I got output power back.
After that changed wsjtx back to Hamlib rigctld and started rigctld from 
script output power was normal.
Perhaps resetting ic7300 would do the same (?) (I have feeling this has 
happened sometimes before and fixed in same way)


But to the point.

Now when moving TX Hz from waterfall from edge to another while transmit 
is ON the wsjtx frequency display changes but rig's display does not change.
And when RX period starts rig stays on TX frequency that was at the 
beginning of TX period, not the one it was moved during TX.


Before:  Rig TX frequency changed, but RX was at last TX frequency (at 
the end on TX period)


Now:    Rig TX frequency does not change, while wsjtx frequency display 
changes, and RX is at first TX frequency (at the start of TX period)



Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 3.6.2022 klo 15.09:

It has been fixed.

http://n0nb.users.sourceforge.net/

Mike W9MDB






On Friday, June 3, 2022, 05:03:29 AM CDT, Kari Sillanmäki via 
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Hi Saku, Michael, Mike et al

I can duplicate this behaviour reported by Saku on my 7300.

I'm  using the rigctld-wsjtx bundled with WSJT-X 2.5.4 source tarball 
on Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS.


This seems to be a defect in hamlib; RX-frequency should always stay put.

73's de Kari, oh2gqc

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib testing
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Date:
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Hi Michael !

Could you test with your IC-7300 this way:

set "split rig" and check "Allow TX frequency changes while 
transmitting" in settings/general tab


Set your TX around 300Hz by shift+left click on waterfall. Start TX 
period and while your TX is on move your TX around 2800Hz by 
shift+left click on waterfall.


When TX period is over does your RX return to selected (from band 
selector) frequency?
Mine does not, it gets the TX (vfoB) frequency that must then be 
corrected with band selector back to right RX frequency.


This happens if I have settings/Radio configured as ICOM 7300, or if 
I have started rigctld with script before starting wsjtx and then 
using Hamlib Net rigctld/localhost:4532 in settings/Radio.


Both ways same result. OS is Fedora 35 linux.

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5p1kzx Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 2.6.2022 klo 18.32:


Hi Everyone

I have tested new the Hamlib with WSJT-X and JTDX in RIG and Fake 
It. I tested it with IC-7300, IC-7000 and IC-706Mk2g - behaviour as 
expected and no problems so far.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib testing

2022-06-03 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi Michael !

Could you test with your IC-7300 this way:

set "split rig" and check "Allow TX frequency changes while 
transmitting" in settings/general tab


Set your TX around 300Hz by shift+left click on waterfall. Start TX 
period and while your TX is on move your TX around 2800Hz by shift+left 
click on waterfall.


When TX period is over does your RX return to selected (from band 
selector) frequency?
Mine does not, it gets the TX (vfoB) frequency that must then be 
corrected with band selector back to right RX frequency.


This happens if I have settings/Radio configured as ICOM 7300, or if I 
have started rigctld with script before starting wsjtx and then using 
Hamlib Net rigctld/localhost:4532 in settings/Radio.


Both ways same result. OS is Fedora 35 linux.

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5p1kzx Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 2.6.2022 klo 18.32:


Hi Everyone

I have tested new the Hamlib with WSJT-X and JTDX in RIG and Fake It. 
I tested it with IC-7300, IC-7000 and IC-706Mk2g - behaviour as 
expected and no problems so far.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hamlib testing

2022-05-31 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi Mike!

I have been using version that I have downloaded from Git on 2022-03-18 
It has a problem that seems to be also in this latest version.


Fedora 35 linux
Wsjt-x v2.5.4 d28164-dirty
Icom Ic 7300

I am starting rigctld from script with:

mypath=/usr/local/bin/
myrigctld=rigctld
myvfo='--vfo'

start_rig (){
    start_rig1
    start_rig2
}
start_rig1 (){
    echo -n "IC7300 start " >> /tmp/start.log
    /usr/bin/date >> /tmp/start.log
    $mypath$myrigctld   -m 3073 -r /dev/icom7300 -t 4532 -s 19200 
-C auto_power_on=0 $myvfo   &



Then at WSTX settings I use rig Net Hamlib rigctld localhost:4532, split 
rig.



Everything seems to work ok (as earlier version) except that if wsjtx 
has started TX period and then I move tx frequency with Shift+left mouse 
it moves ok but when RX period comes back rig's vfoA stays on TX 
frequency and does not come back to RX frequency.


This happens only if you are a bit too late moving TX frequency I.E. TX 
period has already started. If you do it before TX period starts it 
moves ok and RX vfoA stays on rx frequency as should.


I have not bothered to report that because it is a marginal bug and can 
be avoided by not moving TX when transmit is on, or return right RX 
frequency right after TX period ends (if TX frequency was moved) using 
band selector.


This is only "split rig" problem, and there only then when TX frequency 
differs from RX (I.E. on both ends of band slot)


Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 31.5.2022 klo 19.04:

I need everyone to test the latest Hamlib
Testing in Rig Split and Fake It would be appreciated.
Successes/Failures please report.

New hamlib for installation directions

#1 Shut down WSJTX/JTDX

#2 Download either the 32-bit or 64-bit DLL matching the 32/64-bit 
version of WSJTX/JTDX -- hopefully your browser doesn't block it but 
may warn you multiple times.


If you can do a "Save As" you can save it directly in \WSJT\WSJTX\bin 
and replace the libhamlib-4.dll that is there.


http://n0nb.users.sourceforge.net/dll32/libhamlib-4.dll

http://n0nb.users.sourceforge.net/dll64/libhamlib-4.dll

Linux/Unix/Mac users need to compile the latest tar file from 
http://n0nb.users.sourceforge.net/


#3 If you don't save directly you need to open a file browser and move 
the file that way.


If you're not familiar with that here's a video on the file browser - 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyVqCJrs9dk


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[wsjt-devel] Hound operation fails.

2022-04-29 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi!

Is <3X2021> one of then calls where Hound qso fails? Nothing done here, 
other Hound qsos are gone well before but not this one.


Wsjx did not notice he answered to me. Just continue calling. When I 
finally understood to push T3-button at right time I got RR73 but even 
then my Hound just continued to give R-report.


Halted TX and logged qso.

Fedora35, WSJT-X v2.5.4 d28164-dirty


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Re: [wsjt-devel] QSO 15 meters FT8 F/H not logged!

2022-02-20 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi Marco!

Reason that you could not get it working with my suggestion below, and 
needed "-a" is written here: "il file binario corrisponde".


Bash thinks ALL.TXT is a binary file. How ever a clean ALL.TXT is pure 
text file and grep can handle it directly.


Maybe your WSJT-X has crashed some day in past during the write of 
ALL.TXT and there are some "hieroglyphs" written to file that makes grep 
think it is a binary file.


As seen your ALL.TXT size I suggest you move the file.

cd ~/.local/share/WSJT-X
mv ALL.TXT ALLOLD1.TXT

WSJT-X then opens a new ALL.TXT on next start.
Then you can make more ALLOLDx files, monthly, or by yearly basis. 
Depending how much you use WSJT-X.


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Saku via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 19.2.2022 klo 10.01:

i I
Think you were using linux. Then open command console and:

cd ~/.local/share/WSJT-X
grep -ni HisCall ALL.TXT | grep -i YourCall

Shows qso in fast and easy way (with line numbers of ALL.TXT).
Just replace the callsigns in command.




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Re: [wsjt-devel] QSO 15 meters FT8 F/H not logged!

2022-02-19 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi I
Think you were using linux. Then open command console and:

cd ~/.local/share/WSJT-X
grep -ni HisCall ALL.TXT | grep -i YourCall

Shows qso in fast and easy way (with line numbers of ALL.TXT).
Just replace the callsigns in command.

Jim Shorney via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 19.2.2022 klo 6.57:

You should be able to find this in your all.txt file.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 01:46:13 -0300
Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel  wrote:


I asked to the DX station's QSL manager if he can send me the details of the 
QSO (Time and RST) registered by the Fox station on his ClubLog, so hopefully I 
could manually include the QSO also into my log.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] "Pwr" Slider Acting Goofy in WSJT-X v2.5.4

2022-02-12 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

HI Tony!

Have you tried to move mouse cursor on Pwr slider, not click at all, but 
use mouse roll to move slider instead?


Anthony Hackenberg via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 12.2.2022 klo 0.05:
However, the minute I mouse click on that slider's position, the 
slider's pointer jumps down to the bottom 


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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.5.4 GA Release

2022-01-04 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel


Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 3.1.2022 klo 18.54:

You can also download the packages from our SourceForge site:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/files/
It may take a short time for the SourceForge site to be updated. 


Is the [remote "origin"]
    url = https://git.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx
    fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*

not in use any more?

"git pull" gives: "Already up to date" there and it is over month since 
last "git pull" was issued.


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[wsjt-devel] TX mode change bug (?)

2021-12-18 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi!

OS Fedora 35
rig Icom ic 7300
Hamlib self compiled
Hamlib 4.5~git ti joulu 14 22:54:46 2021 + SHA=db3837
Wsjtx self compiled
WSJT-X v2.5.3 69f9ec-dirty
Hamlib started from script:
rigctld   -m 3073 -r /dev/icom7300 -t 4532 -s 19200 -C auto_power_on=0 
--vfo   &

Wsjtx settings:
Hamlib NET rigctl / 127.0.0.1:4532 / PTT CAT / Mode DATA/Pkt / Split Rig

-

Noticed just that if VFO B has been used for any other mode than USB-D 
Wsjtx will not change the mode when it starts transmitting.


When band is changed from selector VFO A goes to that band:
When QSO or CQ is started, or Tune pressed, VFO B is activated and set 
to same band, but VFO B mode is not touched.

It must be set manually from rig panel.

Easily reproduced. Closing Wsjtx or switching bands does not make any 
difference.


--

Another problem, but hard to reproduce, is that randomly the RX VFOA 
takes frequency from recently used in TX VFOB.

So RX jumps to frequency that was used while transmitting.

This does not happen always and so far I have not found any procedure to 
make it happen every time.
User just must be aware of that and quickly reset RX frequency back with 
band selector.

This problem exists also with v2.5.2


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Again problems with ic7300/rigctld/wsjtx[SOLVED]

2021-12-18 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Saku kirjoitti 14.12.2021 klo 12.19:



Hamlib error: Invalid parameter
vfo_fixup: vfo=Sub, vfo_curr=currVFO
rig_set_vfo: rig does not have Sub
rig.c(2607):rig_set_vfo return(-1) while exchanging VFOs


It seems that again ic7300 is broken with latest hamlib source.
I think situation is not any better with wsjtx 2.5.3 source (that I 
would like to get with git pull, please)

Not tested that yet with tarball contents.

Any help/comments, please.



FYI:

OS Fedora35

Solved this one.
- Uninstall all related packages (wsjtx, hamlib) if any.
- uninstall all self compiled versions (wsjtx, hamlib) if any.
- search any remaining hamlib libraries cd /; sudo find -name libham*
 specially look at /lib*  /var/lib and ~/.local/lib folders
- remove all related files found. The oldest in my system was from 2018

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[wsjt-devel] Again problems with ic7300/rigctld/wsjtx

2021-12-14 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Today I upgraded Fedora 34 to version 35.
As expected the self compiled wsjtx did not start any more.
So I run my "doall.sh" script that:

 - pulls Hamlib from
   [remote "origin"]
    url = https://github.com/Hamlib/Hamlib.git
 - compiles and installs it
    [saku@hamtpad .git]$ rigctld --version
    rigctl Hamlib 4.5~git ti joulu 14 05:12:29 2021 + SHA=16cf19

 - pulls wsjtx from
   [remote "origin"]
    url = https://git.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx
 - compiles and installs it
    Wsjtx version 2.5.2

 Rig is icom ic7300.
 rigctld is "pre started" with crontab script:
    /usr/local/bin/rigctld   -m 3073 -r /dev/icom7300 -t 4532 -s 19200 
-C auto_power_on=0 --vfo   &
 Wsjtx uses rig "Hamlib Net rigctld" / Network server: 
127.0.0.1:4532/Ptt cat/Data/pkt/Split Rig


These were the settings with Fedora34, some versions older hamlib and 
wsjtx 2.5.2 (that is the same as git pull said everything is up to date)
Then it worked, now telnet 127.0.0.1 4532 one letter commands work I.E. 
Cqrlog logging program works.

But wsjtx does not work.

Settings/Test CAT stays red and pressing it gives error splash:


Hamlib error: Invalid parameter
vfo_fixup: vfo=Sub, vfo_curr=currVFO
rig_set_vfo: rig does not have Sub
rig.c(2607):rig_set_vfo return(-1) while exchanging VFOs


It seems that again ic7300 is broken with latest hamlib source.
I think situation is not any better with wsjtx 2.5.3 source (that I 
would like to get with git pull, please)

Not tested that yet with tarball contents.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Frequent exchanges repeats on some circustances

2021-11-21 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

I agree with Reino!

I have set TX 1Hz up after three retries. It is amazing how often it helps!
If that does not make effect within few tries then just randomly jump TX 
around band during every TX period so long that opponent station 
receives your signal.


Sometimes trying first to jump to opponent's TX frequency may also help 
as often he/she transmits on frequency that looks free during his/her RX 
period (that is the human mind...). Answering directly on his/her TX 
frequency for CQ is not good idea as so many other stations may do the same.


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Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 21.11.2021 klo 12.48:


I'm noticing the occurrence depicted by the below print wherein you 
can see many attempts to end the QSO which doesn't close and are being 
repeated many retries despite my RST_R (-13) being fair.


Hi Marco,

One possible reason is a strong interference on your frequency and a 
change of your TX frequency could help.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Enhancement

2021-11-20 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

HI!

I have done simple list file of US_callsign=state to cqrlog that can be 
used with wsjtx remote connection.
The list is created from file that can be downloaded from fcc 
(ftp://wirelessftp.fcc.gov/pub/uls/complete/l_amat.zip) holding all 
information of callsign holders.
When US callsign is received from remote wsjtx-UDP the list is scanned 
to find the callsign. If it is found the state is added to monitor line 
and also to temporary list file of callsign=state.
Temporary file exists only during current wsjtx remote session and it is 
used first to look at callsign before search of the full list file. That 
way the seek time is much shorter with callsigns that are currently 
working on band that is monitored.


Good :
    -callsign/states are up to date better than using qrz or other 
callbooks that depends on users update activity


Bad :
    - list does not tell state of mobile or portable station
    - list can not be used with all countries state/county base as 
there is no free information of callisgin holders as it is against 
privacy laws (at least here in Finland)



I have another suggestion for this:

There is already working software for multicarrier fox. That same part 
of program could be used to send additional data as free text on second 
carrier.
User could activate additional transmits, let's say on every 10th CQ 
transmission, that could then send user defined free text carrier with 
cq carrier.


That text could hold special information about locator, state or what 
ever fits to free text frame length.


What I am personally missing is the information of (rare) locators of 
/MM stations that do not now fit to standard CQ message of special callsign.


I know the odd sides;
    - Using two carriers will drop the signal level (when same TX power 
used) and takes more bandwidth on already crowded bands. That is why to 
send it only on every 10th transmission, or what ever seems to be suitable.
    - Perhaps free text message should be tied somehow to main carrier, 
maybe using same kind of hash code as special callsigns have now. That 
would then help to connect free text to cq in case of several stations 
sending them in same period.


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John Korpal via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 18.11.2021 klo 20.12:



  Grid Locator to State Mapping Enhancement
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Possible WSJT-X 2.5.2 Bug(s)

2021-11-12 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Black Michael kirjoitti 12.11.2021 klo 15.54:

Try a new config and see if that fixes the problem.

wsjtx -r test

Mike W9MDB


Hi Mike!

No help. It is what it is and has always been so.
Image: started with test setup, minimized horizontally, closed, started 
again.


F34/LXDE: laptop 1280x800(default) + external monitor 1440x900 (right), 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Possible WSJT-X 2.5.2 Bug(s)

2021-11-11 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

HI!

I see the problem #1 every day when I open wsjtx. And every day I shrink 
it horizontally to minimum. And again it starts wider than set at last time.
It is a "property" and I have tried to modify the main window with QT 
designer, but as it branches to several pages it seems to be very hard 
to modify and I have not yet succeeded to create version that would be 
at minimum width from start.
It is very bad thing, but seems to be that one just have to live with 
it. I think most people use the main window larger than minimum and so 
it is out of interest to make it keep its size, even when minimized.



With problem #2 I have noticed that transmit tone can suddenly change to 
PC internal sound card and then back again to rig's sound card. It may 
happen even during same transmit period.
And other nasty "feature" is that sometimes, when split/rig is used, 
receive frequency (vfo1) may get it's frequency from last used TX 
frequency (of vfo2).
So suddenly you find out that half of waterfall is empty and when check 
the RX frequency it has jumped to last used TX frequency.
How ever I count both these to be caused by RF problems because they are 
related to band and power used and also the weather outside that twists 
OCF dipole properties.


Fedora 34/Icom 7300

Stephen Mitchell via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 11.11.2021 klo 13.57:


I recently updated WSJT-X on my PC to the latest version and ever 
since I’ve noticed two things:


 1. I sized the windows for the waterfall and decodes to my liking but
with the latest version, when I start the application the decodes
window continues to open up larger than the waterfall window,
which stays at the size I set it to.
 2. When I launch the application it sets the frequency .055 Hz higher
than what the frequency should be.  I’ve included a screenshot of
what happens when I first launch the program. I don’t know if
these are true bugs or if I just don’t have something configured
properly.

Thank you – K7CB


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[wsjt-devel] wsjtx 2.5.1 window width?

2021-10-25 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Just compiled version 2.5.1 (from sourceforge).

When I first started that one the main window was about 6cm wider than 
old one in my display.
I could shrink it to back reasonable width (those 6cms), but when I 
closed it and started again it's again back to that huge width.


After that I visited settings (F2) and when returned I noticed that is 
can shrink window only half (~3cm) of that I could before visiting settings.

And after restart window is again huge in width.

Could someone point the part of source where this initial setting is 
defined, please?


Perhaps I could find it by my self with enough seeking, testing and 
again seeking, but it that takes long time. I have tired it few times in 
past, without success.
I have used QT designer to look files in widgets, but I have not found 
the way how the source and designed views are linked.


With Freepascal and Lazarus form design is clear, but with C and QT it 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Split-RIG broken with hamlib-4.3.1 with TS-450S (4.2 is fine)

2021-10-18 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

There is something to do with man pages. For example:

[saku@hamtpad ~]$ rigctld --version
rigctl Hamlib 4.4~git ke loka 13 21:02:40 2021 + SHA=16a879

-

   chk_vfo
  Returns “CHKVFO 1\n” (single line only) if  rigctld was  
invoked

  with the -o/--vfo option and “CHKVFO 0\n” if not.

  When  in VFO mode the client will need to pass 'VFO' as 
the first
  parameter to set or get commands.  VFO is one of the 
strings  de‐

  fined in set_vfo above.

 Manual page rigctld(1) line 672 (press h for help or q to quit)
-

[saku@hamtpad ~]$ telnet localhost 4532
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
\chk_vfo
1
q
RPRT 0
Connection closed by foreign host.
-

An old rigctld Version 3.1 says:

saku@servo2:~$ telnet localhost 4532
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to servo2.
Escape character is '^]'.
\chk_vfo
CHKVFO 1
q
Connection closed by foreign host.

-

For sake of the work done for pull requested fix for cqrlog I wish that 
man page is wrong and current version's answer is right. (only plain 
number in return).


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On 18.10.2021 16.29, Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel wrote:

On 18/10/2021 14:21, Barry Jackson via wsjt-devel wrote:

On 15/10/2021 16:18, Black Michael wrote:

Try this

rigctld -v -Z -v -m 2003 -s 4800 -r /dev/ttyUSB0 -t 4532 
--serial_handshake=None --write_delay=5


Hi Mike,
Going back to this command of yours with syntax that does not work, 
is there a current up-to-date ridctld documentation somewhere.


I have tried the man page which has errors and I also see many 
alternatives to the syntax that also don't work around the internet.


Am I maybe confusing parameters for rigctl with those for rigctld if 
they are different?


Any help would be appreciated as I don't know which documentation to 
believe ;)


Cheers,
Barry
G4MKT 


Barry,

both rigctl and rigctld have pretty comprehensive built in usage 
documentation. Use:


rigctl(d) -h

for command line usage, and:

rigctl(d) -l

to list model number assignments, and:

rigctl(d) -m  -L

to see the available configuration options along with their default 
values.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Maintenance Question: How To disable .WAV samples and reduce ALL.TXT size

2021-10-16 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Or you can zip the file:

zip -j9m ~/ALL1.zip ~/.local/share/WSJT-X/ALL.TXT

This will zip and remove ALL.TXT. Change number 1 to 2 ...3... etc. on 
next times.
Zipping will reduce the file size approx 80% and you still have 
everything there if needed.


On 16.10.2021 0.38, Bobby Chandler via wsjt-devel wrote:

Marco,
I just use Editpad or Notepad++ to replace all lines in the ALL.TXT 
that don't have my call. This reduces size considerably.


Bobby/N4AU

On 10/15/2021 2:28 PM, Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel wrote:

Il 15/10/21 07:11, Reino Talarmo ha scritto:


*Question 2:*Is there a way (I mean a correct/suggested way) to 
periodically empty the "ALL.TXT" file which in my case has reached 
almost 250 Mb in size?


Hi Marco,

You got already proposals not to empty ALL.TXT file, but rename it 
and put in a safe place for a later reference.
There is a very simple emptying method already: File – Erase 
ALL.TXT, but you need to do it yourself now and then, hi!


73, Reino OH3mA


Yes Reino,

Thanks, I've not noticed that the "Erase ALL.TXT" and "Erase *.wav 
and *.c2" were available into the File menu, my lack!!


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Maintenance Question: How To disable .WAV samples and reduce ALL.TXT size

2021-10-16 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi!

With linux command console you can do it fast with:

grep -i oh1kh ~/.local/share/WSJT-X/ALL.TXT > ~/MYALL.TXT

That makes file MYALL.TXT to your home directory. Just replace my call 
with your own.

After checked MYALL.TXT you can delete the ALL.TXT

rm ~/.local/share/WSJT-X/ALL.TXT

And when ever you want to do it again just modify ">" to ">>" to be like:

grep -i oh1kh ~/.local/share/WSJT-X/ALL.TXT >> ~/MYALL.TXT

and lines with your call is added to existing file ~/MYALL.TXT


On 16.10.2021 0.38, Bobby Chandler via wsjt-devel wrote:

Marco,
I just use Editpad or Notepad++ to replace all lines in the ALL.TXT 
that don't have my call. This reduces size considerably.


Bobby/N4AU

On 10/15/2021 2:28 PM, Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel wrote:

Il 15/10/21 07:11, Reino Talarmo ha scritto:


*Question 2:*Is there a way (I mean a correct/suggested way) to 
periodically empty the "ALL.TXT" file which in my case has reached 
almost 250 Mb in size?


Hi Marco,

You got already proposals not to empty ALL.TXT file, but rename it 
and put in a safe place for a later reference.
There is a very simple emptying method already: File – Erase 
ALL.TXT, but you need to do it yourself now and then, hi!


73, Reino OH3mA


Yes Reino,

Thanks, I've not noticed that the "Erase ALL.TXT" and "Erase *.wav 
and *.c2" were available into the File menu, my lack!!


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Some minor issues.

2021-09-29 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Marco Calistri kirjoitti 29.9.2021 klo 16.49:

Hi dear Saku 

I was hopefully waiting a feedback from your side as being one member 
of the CQRLOG developers team as well as a WSJT-X user.


However, sorry to say this, but your reply doesn't sounds pretty clear 
to me... Despite this I will try to follow your suggestion about 
starting rigctld by a separate session.


I demonstrated though my answer to Mike that CQRLOG has not any 
influence on the anomalies I faced (minor issue 1: no AFSK using NET 
rigctl and minor issue 2: radio split issue).


I could keep using my current settings on both CQRLOG and WSJT-X since 
I feel that Hamlib will not works anymore as it was before (using NET 
rigctl) but at least I would like to get rid of the need to manually 
push VFO A=B button on my FT-100 every time I switch the band from WSJT-X.


Thanks and best regards!


HI Marco!

Cqrlog does not have influence to A=B needs, but it is related to this.

To get rid of pushing A=B after band change with wsjtx rigctld that 
access rig needs starting parameter "--vfo" if you start rigctld outside 
of wsjtx and use "Hamlib Net rigctld" as rig in wsjtx configuration.

That helped at least me with Icom IC7300.

As reminder:
You can not start wsjtx with your rig model and serial port as rig in 
configuration(F2/radio) if you also start cqrlog with your rig model and 
serial port in preferences/TRXControl.
This will cause two programs trying to share same serial port to access 
to your rig at same time and that will not work.
You have to start rigctld with rig parameters separately and then make 
your programs call that rigctld with "Hamlib net rigctld" as rig in 
programs.
( 
https://github.com/OH1KH/cqrlog/blob/loc_testing/compiled/setting_rigctld_for_all_programs.pdf 
)


But when "--vfo" is used to get wsjtx happy problem arise with cqrlog 
that does not like "--vfo" parameter at rigctld start at all.
And the reason is, as said, rigctld one letter commands need additional 
parameter about vfo (VFOA, VFOB, currVFO etc...) for almost all commands.


This makes it not being backward compatible any more with older rigctld 
commands.


So making wsjtx happy with "--vfo" makes cqrlog unhappy because it uses 
legacy one letter commands for accessing rigctld that then do not work 
any more.


If you try latest hamlib 29 10:46:53 2021 + SHA=a2b3a8 you could 
also try my fix for cqrlog at 
https://github.com/OH1KH/cqrlog/tree/hamlib_vfo


It has a new checkbox at preferences/TRXcontrol called "Use \chkvfo". It 
is default checked and then tries to find out has user started rigctld 
with or without "--vfo" parameter. With that information it changes 
command format for accessing rigctld from cqrlog.

When unchecked it acts like previous cqrlogs. I.E: disables this fix.

It seems to work with IC7300 when "--vfo" parameter is used and both 
cqrlog and wsjtx become happy.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Some minor issues.

2021-09-29 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi Marco!

Sounds familiar, hi...

As you use #2 Net Hamlib rigctld as cqrlog's rig you have to start 
rigctld elsewhere with rig parameters. I guess that happens via bash script.

There you should use "--vfo" to get wsjtx work with split=rig.

Unfortunately that causes problems with cqrlog. It does not work if 
parameter "--vfo" is used as using it changes the format of rigctld 
short (one letter) commands. They are no more backwards compatible 
because almost every command needs vfo stated as first parameter when 
start parameter "--vfo" is used.


There is a workaround to start rigctld with rig parameters and "--vfo" 
via bash script. That makes wsjtx happy with rig #2 Hamlib Net rigctld 
configured there, but then you need to start another rigctld without 
"--vfo" for cqrlog and that 2nd rigctld accesses the 1st rigctld that 
then accesses your rig.


For doing this:
With bash script start rigctld with your normal rig parameters and "--vfo"

wsjtx:
rig #2 Net Hamlib rigctld selected, server localhost:4532

cqrlog/trxcontrol:
"Run rigctld when program starts" checked
rig #2 Hamlib Net rigctld selected
localhost
Port 14532 !!! Note the port number !!!
Extra command line arguments     I.E. do not write anything there
Other settings do not affect with rig #2 no need to set them

Instead of "localhost" I prefer using 127.0.0.1 because sometimes IPv6, 
if enabled, causes troubles when "localhost" is used directing connects 
to IPv6 that may not been supported by all programs.


I'm working with fix for cqrlog, it is under testing and Mike has done 
good work at Hamlib side to get this issue solved.
Specially Icom rigs that can not report vfo with "v" command have caused 
extra work.


As soon as I have tested it properly I will make pull request to 
cqrlog's GitHub



Another way to resolve this is leave the "--vfo" parameter away from 
bash started rigctld and then set wsjtx split=fake it. Then it is happy 
without "--vfo" and also cqrlog works as always before.



For the audio issue I can not give help. All I know that pulse audio 
(pipewire) does not work properly. It has been so always, at least with 
Fedoras. Alsa is the only one that works.
And when you change band and press Tune there as the first thing to do 
the first period transmit after that is always without audio. So do not 
use Tune button for tuning the new band first, just start transmit 
immediately and let the first transmit period activate autotuner (just 
wondering what the Tune button is for...)


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Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 29.9.2021 klo 0.51:

Il 28/09/21 18:08, Black Michael ha scritto:

#1 Does the rig behave when NOT running cqrlog?
#2 Please run rigctld like this, duplicate the problem, and send me 
the log.txt file

rigctld -m 1021 --vfo -v -Z >log.txt 2>&1

Mike W9MDB




Hi Mike,

Yes, CQRLOG is not affecting at all in these behaviors.

In attachment the two logs:

1 - *rigctld.usb.log.txt *produced when selecting "NET rigctl" into 
WSJT-X: result is that no AFSK is generated and FT-100 just switch the 
PTT on/off.


2 - *FT-100ctld.usb.log.txt* produced when selecting FT-100 as Rig 
into WSJT-X. In this case I tried to change band from 10 to 17 meters 
and going back to 10 meters and the result is that *_only_* the 
receiving VFO changes correctly though WSJT-X commands, while the 
transmitting VFO holds  on 10 meters initial frequency.


So yes, both issues are still present independently of CQRLOG and as I 
told, they are news issues since the newer software versions 
(hamlib/wsjt-x) has been released.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X vs JTDX sensitivity comparison

2021-09-15 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

HI !

My opinion:

I have also tested this some time ago running both programs in parallel 
with same linux PC, same rig IC7300, OCF dipole 80-10m.
If wsjt-x decode is set to "Normal" or "Deep" I would rather say 
"slightly better, in some cases".

But difference is so small that it did not cause any need to move to JTDX.

Rich - K1HTV via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 14.9.2021 klo 20.55:

*The JTDX decode capability on weak signals is significantly better *


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Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.5.0rc5 and FT4 PTT

2021-09-05 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Good point Claude!

But I have at the moment only IC7300, WiFi Mouse and Hp laser printer 
connected to PC via USB.
I have several symlinks, even for gps (because of some tests years ago) 
But I do not have gpsd installed at the moment.


[saku@hamtpad ~]$ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/92-persistent-usb.rules

#own CI-V box
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="067b", 
ATTRS{idProduct}=="2303", ATTRS{product}=="USB 2.0 To COM Device", 
SYMLINK+="rig"

#IC7300
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="10c4", 
ATTRS{idProduct}=="ea60" ,ATTRS{serial}=="IC-7300 03003483", 
SYMLINK+="icom7300"
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", 
ATTRS{idProduct}=="6001", ATTRS{serial}=="A601VSBR", SYMLINK+="cwkeyer"
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="067b", 
ATTRS{idProduct}=="2303", ATTRS{product}=="USB-Serial Controller D", 
SYMLINK+="gps"

#ESP WiFi device via USB-TTL converter
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="10c4", 
ATTRS{idProduct}=="ea60" ,  ATTRS{serial}=="0001", SYMLINK+="ardu"

#Xduino UNO V
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1a86", 
ATTRS{idProduct}=="7523", SYMLINK+="ardu"

#Arduino UNO V2
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="2341", 
ATTRS{idProduct}=="0001", SYMLINK+="ardu"


Claude Frantz via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 4.9.2021 klo 15.47:

On 8/27/21 10:06 AM, Saku via wsjt-devel wrote:

Hi Saku & all,

I have noticed a similar problem when using a GPS mouse as time source 
for ntpd. The source of the problem is gpsd, especially when using the 
"-n" command line flag, which is necessary here, although this 
information is not included in the man page.


The solution was to set the "gpsd.service" as disabled with systemctl:
systemctl disable gpsd.service

At next, I have inserted the following line in 
/etc/udev/rules.d/99-hamlib.rules:


SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="10c4", ATTRS{idProduct}=="ea60", 
ATTRS{serial}=="IC-7300 [0-9]*", TEST!="/dev/rigA", SYMLINK+="rigA"


Now, the IC-7300 appears as /dev/rigA. This was necessary because the 
GPS mouse includes the same chip.


Finally, I have created a file "/etc/modprobe.d/my-local.conf" with:

alias pps-ldisc  /dev/null
alias tty-ldisc-18  /dev/null

in order to avoid that gpsd try to use any tty device as PPS device.

When beginning, I plug in the XCVR and the GPS mouse on the USB 
sockets. Then I start rigctld on /dev/rigA. Then gpsd "systemctl start 
gpsd.service". I verify that gpsd is receiving data from the mouse 
"gpsmon". After some delay, I verify that ntpd is using the signal 
from gpsd via the shared memory: "ntpq -4p 127.0.0.1". Then I can 
start wsjtx.


Perhaps you have a similar interference with gpsd.

Best wishes,
Claude (DJ0OT) 


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Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.5.0rc5 and FT4 PTT

2021-09-04 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi Reino, Bill and Mike!

FYI

It looks like the PTT staying on was an RFI problem after all.

Nothing changed in station setup, but a wire from the rear chassis of 
IC7300 to a filter box that ICOM has in it's power cable was loosen 
(fully detached).

As it is at back side of rig it is not visible for operator.

Noticed it yesterday when a new problem started: During FT8 TX period 
the sound card was switched between ICOM's internal card and PC's sound 
card several times during a TX period. Because nothing was changed at 
PC's side I finally peeked the wires behind the rig.


I think this is now fixed, but the other problem still remains: When 
using self compiled binaries from latest versions of hamlib and wsjtx 
(4.3/2.5.0rc5)  the "split/rig" does not work leaving vfoB to previously 
used band when band is changed.
It should change to band of vfoA when first transmit period begins (or 
Tune), that it actually does for a second, but then reverts back to 
previously used band.

I did already sent a link (to Mike) to a short video that shows the problem.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wW3xr6d2NiN7sLTUj3WCU_aOKqOQ5z7l/view?usp=sharing

I have now reverted back to hamlib 4.1 and wsjtx 2.4.0, both installed 
from Fedora 34 packages. That combination works with "rig/split" while 
the latest versions need "rig/Fake it" to work properly.


Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 27.8.2021 klo 11.20:

Hi!

Now during few days I have noticed that calling cq with FT4 causes PTT to stay 
on during RX period. Nearly to end of it. Then small RX gap and TX starts again 
to next TX period (at proper time).
This happens at random times after started CQ calling.

When this starts to happen it may also cause error that rig is not responding. But not 
always. On other times it may just blink once the "green dot" besides band 
selector to yellow and back to green.

After some time of calling cq with these problems TX enable drops away, no 
errors, and no receiving any more. Waterfall stays blank while stations can be 
heard from speaker I.E. there is traffic.

Stopping and starting WSJTx does not help for long. If PTT problem has happened 
it soon continues after program restart. Rebooting PC helps and gives longer 
time until the PTT again stays on.

This does not happen with FT8.

It is a random problem, and so hard to reproduce but has happened now daily 
when I have started to use FT4 again with these versions of WSJTX and Hamlib.

I may also be a rigctld problem, it is not the very latest from Git.
Anyway it causes WSJTX to be unstable.


Anybody seen this kind of problem with FT4 and 2.5.0rc5 ?


Setup:

Fedora 34
Self compiled WSJTX 2.5.0rc5 using Hamlib 4.3~git ti elo(Aug) 03
05:04:13 2021 + SHA=f29ee3 source

IC7300 / USB baud rate Auto (19200 in rigctld settings) /Link to [remote] /CI-V 
tranceive off rigctld   -m 3073 -r /dev/icom7300 -t 4532 -s 19200 -C 
auto_power_on=0

rigctld started from script with IC7300 settings, WSJTX uses Net Hamlib rigctld 
@ localhost:4532

Terve Saku,
Have you ever experienced RFI? Those symptoms do fit to that. Easiest quick 
check is to reduce output power and see, if any change. Experts may find 
another reason or reasons.
73, Reino OH3mA



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Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.5.0rc5 and FT4 PTT

2021-08-31 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Yep!

Yesterday I cleaned all, cloned again Hamlib from GitHub and WSJTX from 
sourceforge and then compiled.


What I found out first is that split/rig does not work, I thought this 
was fixed some time ago with IC7300.
Well, it is not. With latest sources it happens to work so that if 
setting is split/rig then if I start to work on 21Mc it works, but if I 
then change to 14Mc RX will go to 14Mc but TX at vfoB stays on 21Mc.

So I have to use split/fake it to make it work properly.

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Black Michael kirjoitti 31.8.2021 klo 15.37:
Are you compiling with the latest hamlib?  Hamlib 4.3 release is 
rolling out very soon.

You can check out the current version...

git clone https://github.com/Hamlib/Hamlib.git 
<https://github.com/Hamlib/Hamlib.git>


Mike W9MDB




On Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 01:22:47 AM CDT, Saku via wsjt-devel 
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There is no effect setting poll rate 1s, 2s or 5s. Always fails after a
while. I would say that shorter poll rate seems to raise problems faster.
I think I clean up everything and recompile all again.

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Saku via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 30.8.2021 klo 17.27:


Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 27.8.2021 klo 18.22:
> Those cache times are showing 10134ms = 10 seconds since the last time
> ptt was polled.  For FT4 that's not good.
>
> What is your polling rate in WSJT-X?
>
> Mike W9MDB

Hi MIke!

Poll rate is 5sec. Compared to FT4 period it is too long, but I expect
that every needed command is placed at time it should happen (not placed
in poll queue) and reply for sent command comes immediately and at all
other times (when not any special job to execute) rig is polled by poll
rate.

But if every rig cat command sent and responded go via poll queue then I
just wonder how it has worked this far from the beginning of FT4 mode.

I'll try next to minimize the poll rate and see what happens.




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Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.5.0rc5 and FT4 PTT

2021-08-31 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel
There is no effect setting poll rate 1s, 2s or 5s. Always fails after a 
while. I would say that shorter poll rate seems to raise problems faster.

I think I clean up everything and recompile all again.

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Saku via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 30.8.2021 klo 17.27:


Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 27.8.2021 klo 18.22:
Those cache times are showing 10134ms = 10 seconds since the last time 
ptt was polled.  For FT4 that's not good.


What is your polling rate in WSJT-X?

Mike W9MDB


Hi MIke!

Poll rate is 5sec. Compared to FT4 period it is too long, but I expect 
that every needed command is placed at time it should happen (not placed 
in poll queue) and reply for sent command comes immediately and at all 
other times (when not any special job to execute) rig is polled by poll 
rate.


But if every rig cat command sent and responded go via poll queue then I 
just wonder how it has worked this far from the beginning of FT4 mode.


I'll try next to minimize the poll rate and see what happens.




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Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.5.0rc5 and FT4 PTT

2021-08-30 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel


Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 27.8.2021 klo 18.22:
Those cache times are showing 10134ms = 10 seconds since the last time 
ptt was polled.  For FT4 that's not good.


What is your polling rate in WSJT-X?

Mike W9MDB


Hi MIke!

Poll rate is 5sec. Compared to FT4 period it is too long, but I expect 
that every needed command is placed at time it should happen (not placed 
in poll queue) and reply for sent command comes immediately and at all 
other times (when not any special job to execute) rig is polled by poll 
rate.


But if every rig cat command sent and responded go via poll queue then I 
just wonder how it has worked this far from the beginning of FT4 mode.


I'll try next to minimize the poll rate and see what happens.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.5.0rc5 and FT4 PTT

2021-08-27 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Thanks Bill!

Pulled last Hamlib from GItHub, compiled and installed.

Then cloned wsjt-x from sourceforge, made CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH to point 
that cloned Hamlib directory and compiled.


Now I have running version that again has same problem than some time ago:
    If I use 17m, then change to 20m to work there then rig's vfoB does 
not change transmitting still on 17m and receiving on 20m with vfoA


I think it is now time to restore previously compiled version (that did 
not have this error) and then take weekend without any programming.


Have nice weekend!

PS.
FT4 problem still existed also with this version, too.
2021-08-27 14:33:15.401025][00:00:58.757069][RIGCTRL:trace] rig_get_ptt: 
cache miss age=10134ms
There are similar with get_mode, get_vfo and get_split_vfo with 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.5.0rc5 and FT4 PTT

2021-08-27 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel


Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 27.8.2021 klo 14.05:
if you are not going to use the bundled Hamlib sources then there is 
little point in starting with the WSJT-X sources tarball we provide. 
That tarball is specifically set up to build WSJT-X using that bundled 
Hamlib. You would be better to simply clone the WSJT-X git source 
repository f


I think a while ago I told (might be just in mail to Mike, not to 
dev-list) how I tar and checksum Git-hamlib clone with names of Hamlib 
in wsjt-x tarball, replace the original files and then do build. I think 
it is not clever (at least not easiest) way and asked is there a proper way.


If I search GitHub with "wsjt-x" I get 57 repositories.  Then there is 
SourceForge. To tell the truth I have difficulties to know where is the 
latest official source (elsewhere than tarball@Joe's web page). Mainly 
because I am not Git guru and I can do just some basic things there.


Hamlib is easy to find from GItHub. It is just "hamlib" and can be found 
as first hit of search.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.5.0rc5 and FT4 PTT

2021-08-27 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel



Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 27.8.2021 klo 11.42:

Hi Saku,

have you tried using the rigctld-wsjtx that is bundled with WSJT-X, or 
the one built with the Hamlib package you linked WSJT-X with?


73
Bill
G4WJS. 



HI Bill!

No, not tested with rigctld-wsjtx.
But when extracted wsjtx source I removed the hamlib part and replaced 
it with this Git source I mentioned. So there is only one version of 
Hamlib in this PC.


On directly compiled and installed from Git clone source and that same 
source is transferred to wsjtx build. So there should not be any lib 
conflicts.


I may try to do Git pull again and recompile to get very latest Hamlib 
when time permits. I also try to find if there is any clue how to 
reproduce this problem.


And to Reino:
If there has not been RF problems before, and when FT8 works ok also 
now, I suspect that is not RF problem with FT4. But I can test it also 
with reduced power.



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Re: [wsjt-devel] RC5 main window size issue

2021-08-12 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hei!

Do you set *absolute minimums* for H and W and then close/open wsjtx?

As Bill says if window is a bit bigger for both directions, with my 
display resolution ~2cm in H and ~1,5cm in W, retains it. That breaks 
the whole display window positioning setup in every start with this 
rather small HP L1908w (1440x900-60Hz) monitor.


Kari Sillanmäki via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 12.8.2021 klo 10.51:

I'm running WSJT-X on XUbuntu 18.04.5 LTS with XFCE 4.12.2 desktop.

In my system WSJT-X remembers the size/location of  the main window.

Still something to do with Fedora / LXDE ??

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Re: [wsjt-devel] RC5 main window size issue

2021-08-12 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

HI!

If you set wsjtx main window to minimum horizontal and vertical size it 
is not saved/loaded when wsjtx starts again resulting bigger main window 
that was set.
Saving window W and H and X,Y position at close and reload them at start 
should give same sized window.


OS Fedora Linux 34/ LXDE

Cqrlog compiled with QT5 widgets can do this, so I assume it is not 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X V2.5.0-rc4 (Fedora 34)

2021-08-03 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

I have done just so: use /usr prefix to override package hamlib.
With Fedora it is no problem to remove Hamlib package:

rpm -e --nodeps hamlib

And it does not remove all ham programs at same time because of 
dependencies.


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I have now pulled my hamlib clone directory from git and compiled it. I 
also compiled wsjtx 2.3.1 for use.


Getting wsjtx source and doing compile by the instructions of INSTALL 
file makes folder hamlib-prefix and compiles that with wsjtx. And it is 
not the latest version of hamlib.


I made some "innovations": copied hamlib git version to same name as 
wsjtx 2.3.1/hamlib-prefix, then tar:ed the folder (using that old name) 
and made md5sum of it. After that replaced those hamlib files that come 
with wsjtx source and compiled by INSTALL instructions.


Could someone say how this should be done properly? I.E add latest 
hamlib to (any version) of wsjtx source.


How ever my trick worked and now I have latest hamlib and properly 
working wsjtx 2.3.1


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Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 3.8.2021 klo 16.32:

Mike,

OK, then uninstall the system package, so long as no other package 
depends on it. You are advocating breaking packaging dependencies for 
no good reason. Installing a package into /usr/local, or indeed /opt, 
or /opt/local is standard practice on 8nix systems when it is required 
to override some system installed package. Your advice will lead to 
users with broken distributions! There is no good reason to install a 
package into /usr on a system where /usr is used for installation of 
managed packages.


The Linux ldconfig system makes it certain where libraries are loaded 
from, look at the manpage for ldconfig and at least try and learn how 
these systems work. There is no ambiguity about loading of libraries, 
it is set by /etc/ld/so/conf, and so long as users do not screw up the 
default PATH assignments the same applies to executables and 
executable scripts.


73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 03/08/2021 14:21, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
Everybody that does that ends up with multiple ham installations and 
no idea which libhamlib.so wsjtx is using.

You can always install a package over the top of it with no problem.

Mike W9MDB

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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X V2.5.0-rc4 (Fedora 34)

2021-08-03 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

HI Mike !

No error reported. Frequency just stays on where it was set by "monitor 
returns to last used frequency". No change, no error.


I do not see any connection of File/Settings/Frequencies and rig 
polling. It should read what rig display has in not depending on what is 
in band selector frequencies list.


Dial -200 is not bad idea.
Then you can set your tx to be 150Hz that is usually empty. I guess most 
(specially old) rigs can pass that, but they do not hear calls over 
2500Hz that leaves 2500Hz-3400Hz unusable.
By experience below 200Hz reaches most stations while 2.5-3.4kHz fails 
more often.


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Black Michael via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 3.8.2021 klo 16.10:
WSJT-X most certainly does poll the rig.  Though only every 5 seconds 
since you set it that way.

Of course it won't poll if it gets an error.

Perhaps you need to reset your frequencies in 
File/Settings/Frequencies -- right-click in the list and "Reset".


And dialing down to get "free tx space" below 200 is a bad 
ideamost everybody won't hear you down there as it's below their 
bandwidth cutoff.


Mike W9MDB




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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X V2.5.0-rc4 (Fedora 34)

2021-08-03 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Thanks Bill!

I have not touched Settings/general ... I cannot remember when was the 
last time. Perhaps it was some day in stone age. :-)


Both "monitor off..." and "monitor returns ..." were unchecked. Checked 
now the "monitor returns to last used frequency" and it helps for "OOB" 
problem. Assume it has appeared at some time since version 2.3.1 as It 
did not need to check that before.


I think that wsjtx should get the current frequency from rig. Checking 
"monitor returns to last used frequency" just hides the actual problem 
by setting the rig.
That is because if starting wsjtx it sets now 6m frequency without "OOB" 
but wsjtx cannot notice if I set 20m using rig buttons. It just shows 
still 6m, I.E. it does not poll rig like it did before. With last used 
ver2.3.1 manual change with vfo did affect also to wsjtx frequency display.
And that is also what "monitor returns to last used frequency"'s popup 
help text claims, too.


Same thing continues if I change band from wsjtx band selector. Rig 
changes frequency, but if I after that change frequency with vfo wsjtx 
does not notice that. Rig poll rate is 5s, but I have used to wait for 
the change a bit.


I have to test what happens in real qso as I sometimes drop dial -200Hz 
with vfo to get free TX space from under 200Hz of waterfall.


-

I did downgrade back to wsjtx-2.4.0-1.fc34.x86_64 and noticed it has the 
same problem. Frequency display does not follow rig if vfo is turned 
while cqrlog, accessing the same rigctld daemon, notices frequency 
changes.  ;-(


-

grep says:

[RIGCTRL][2021-08-03 12:04:34.582825][00:00:00.186587][info] Hamlib 
version: Hamlib 4.3~git Sun Jul 25 23:51:03 2021 + SHA=67b787



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[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X V2.5.0-rc4 (Fedora 34)

2021-08-03 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel

Hi!

Just upgraded my Fedora from 33 to 34.
Removed all self compiled hamlib and wsjtx versions and installed 
packages from repository:


wsjtx-2.4.0-1.fc34.x86_64
hamlib-4.1-1.fc34.x86_64
It seems to work. Only one question arises:

*Is it in purpose that every time I start wsjtx it shows yellow "OOB" on 
red background and frequency display is filled with zeros.*
After band is selected frequency shows out ok and all works. Just 
annoying that it does not get frequency at start by itself like before.


I use rigctrld started from script before wsjtx. Start line is:
/usr/bin/rigctld   -m 3073 -r /dev/icom7300 -t 4532 -s 19200 -C 
auto_power_on=0 &


(as you can see the rig is icom 7300)

Wsjtx settings use rig: Hamlib Net rigtcĺd, sever: localhost:4532, 
split: rig

ldd /usr/bin/wsjtx | grep ham
    libhamlib.so.4 => /lib64/libhamlib.so.4 (0x7fd30f59e000)

-

After that I installed 2.5.0_rc4 from wsjtx web page package:
wsjtx-2.5.0_rc4-1.x86_64

Again every time wsjtx is started it shows yellow/red "OOB" with zero 
frequency. When band is selected from selector frequency shows ok.
But every time I try to "Tune" or start tx from "Enable TX" the 
yellow/red "OOB" and zero frequency returns and TX does not start.


Also following error appears:

Hamlib error: Feature not available

rig.c(5605):rig_has_vfo_op return(0)

rig.c(3790):rig_set_split_freq return(-11)

rig.c(4331):rig_set_split_freq_mode return(-11) while setting split TX 
frequency and mode


If I return band back from band selector same repeats. But If I ignore 
"OOB" and try again "Tune" or "Enable TX" transmitter starts and I can 
keep qso. How ever at logging phase the "Band" column is empty as can be 
expected when "OOB" is visible.


Perhaps rig timeout is too short in wsjtx (??) and it can not get 
response from daemon running rigctld that have to ask it from rig.

But from where to adjust that?

If I go configuration/radio and test CAT and PTT everything works ok.

*So rc4 is unusable with "split"="rig". If I set "Fake it" all works 
after I have cleared the start phase "OOB" like with 2.4.0*


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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.5.0-rc3 RST_RCVD logging issue

2021-07-18 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel
Rather good way to get qso one period faster. Important with VHF ES 
DXing (mostly 6m). Conditions change so fast.


There are not so many 4 character grids in Japan. And if callsign's QRZ 
or HamQTH entry is up to date external logger adds the locator, usually 
6 characters, or even more precise.


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Derek Turner via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 17.7.2021 klo 9.33:
And why do JAs en mass ignore locators which are fundamental in FT8 
exchanges for the rest of us ?


73 de G4SWY Del +++


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