Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
Well. More details. The planned launch on Wednesday will contain 60 Starlink version 0.9 satellites. That's the upper end of what was hinted at earlier.
https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starlink-satellites-tease-revolutionary-design/
bp
On 5/9/2019 2:28 PM
12, 2019 11:35 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
Well. More details. The planned launch on Wednesday will contain 60 Starlink
version 0.9 satellites. That's the upper end of what was hinted at earlier.
https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starlink-satellites-tease-revolutionary
, 2019 2:56 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
I got into a discussion on Quora about this the other day.
Their FCC filing says they'll use 2000mhz of bandwidth for the
Satellite to User Terminal downlink. However many satellites they
have, they'll be limited to 2000mhz
:* Thursday, May 9, 2019 2:56 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
I got into a discussion on Quora about this the other day.
Their FCC filing says they'll use 2000mhz of bandwidth for the Satellite
to User Terminal downlink. However many satellites they have, they'll
be limited
These are the guys the landed a rocket ship on its tail feathers on a tiny
barge in open ocean...
They can obviously do difficult things.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 2:56 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
I got into a discussion on Quora about
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
LOL...
Yep..
On 4/18/19 9:05 AM, Bill
Pr
:* dave
*Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:15 AM
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LOL... Yep..
On 4/18/19 9:05 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Well, well, well. Reality may be rearing its ugly head...
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4254917-spacex-backtracking-satellite-internet-puts
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
LOL...
Yep..
On 4/18/19 9:05 AM, Bill Prince
wrote:
Well, well, well. Reality may be rearing its
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 10:45 PM
To: AFMUG
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
That doesn't surprise me... putting a microcell every 1500' is the only way
they're going
.
From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 7:33 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
This was already happening with 4G.
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Mike Hammett
<http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
<https://www.facebook.
This was already happening with 4G.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Adam Moffett"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 8:59:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] R
get his email, and another who couldn’t understand
>> that her domain registrar was asking her to create security challenge
>> questions, not to answer them. My customers are not necessarily the
>> sharpest knives in the drawer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF *O
; *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2019 4:00 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
LTE wasn't a twinkle in anyone's eye when Clearwire was
deploying WiMax.
-
Mike Hammet
e
> lobbying for something.
>
>
>
> Well, then there’s AT and their plan to use powerlines to guide their
> microwaves.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:43 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gro
AT and their plan to use powerlines to guide their
microwaves.
From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:43 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
Well, imagine that... who would've ever guessed that they aren't going to put
up
istrar was asking her to create security challenge
> questions, not to answer them. My customers are not necessarily the
> sharpest knives in the drawer.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2019 4:00 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Mi
maybe an threat for urban not so much for rural america sadly. So there isnt
much we should have to worry about if your rural america.
-Original Message-
From: "Bill Prince"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Date: 04/24/19 09:58
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
This almost needs
ay, April 19, 2019 4:00 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
LTE
wasn't a twinkle in anyone's
mmWave using their airGig technique, but I’ll believe that when I see it.
From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 4:52 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
Listened to a discussion on PBS today. I did not hear the whole thing, but it
was clear from
Two points there. #1, It IS Dave Barry after all, and #2, It was
written 18 years ago.
bp
On 4/19/2019 1:51 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
That’s why we’re the greatest nation on
earth.
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 4:00 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
LTE
wasn't a twinkle in anyone's eye when Clearwire
t’s why we’re the greatest nation on earth.
>>>
>>> https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2001-06-24-0106240474-story.html
>>>
>>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2019 11:24 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Mi
2019 4:00 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
>
> LTE wasn't a twinkle in anyone's eye when Clearwire was deploying WiMax.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
> Midwest Internet Exchan
:* Friday, April 19, 2019 11:24 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
We just replaced the toilet in the master bathroom. It only uses 1.28
gallons per flush.
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 9:14 AM Ken Hohhof <mailto
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
We just replaced the toilet in the master bathroom. It only uses 1.28
gallons per flush.
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 9:14 AM Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Maybe they’re in awe of our 1.6 gallon per flus
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
LTE wasn't a twinkle in anyone's eye when Clearwire was deploying WiMax.
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Mike Hammett
<http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
<https://
quot;
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 8:09:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
By not choosing LTE, they lost the change of interop, volume manufacturing
etc..
Gino Villarini
Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
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That’s why we’re the greatest nation on earth.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2001-06-24-0106240474-story.html
From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 11:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
We just
ion if you are on a septic tank. That is a
> non-consumptive use of water. It eventually, theoretically, returns to the
> aquifer that it came from.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2019 10:24 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFM
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 10:51 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
That would explain why they're in awe of our waste management abilities...
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 10:39 AM wrote:
So, do Australians use outhouses
m:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2019 10:51 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
>
>
>
> That would explain why they're in awe of our waste management abilities...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19,
Maybe they’re in awe of our 1.6 gallon per flush toilets, per government
mandate.
From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 10:51 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
That would explain why they're in awe of our waste management
n McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2019 8:47 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
>
> I hadn't heard that one before. Sounds like it is due to a rhyming
> between yanks / septic tanks and at least some number of Australians
> think
roup
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
>
> I hadn't heard that one before. Sounds like it is due to a rhyming
> between yanks / septic tanks and at least some number of Australians
> thinking Americans are full of shit.
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:45 AM Steve Jones
> wr
So, do Australians use outhouses in lieu of septic tanks?
From: Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 8:47 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
I hadn't heard that one before. Sounds like it is due to a rhyming between
yanks / septic tanks
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
>> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:33 AM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
>>
>> On 4/18/19 8:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> > Google Fiber's trajec
: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
I don't know that it was that simple. IIRC (someone here might remember the
timing better than I), when they started, LTE was still a proposal, and
WiMax actually had working gear. They eventually realized, the rest of the
industry had zagged after they had zigged
es difficult to understand.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:33 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
>
> On 4/18/19 8:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> > Google Fiber's trajectory runs paral
I don't know that it was that simple. IIRC (someone here might remember
the timing better than I), when they started, LTE was still a proposal,
and WiMax actually had working gear. They eventually realized, the rest
of the industry had zagged after they had zigged, and they rebooted with
LTE.
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From: AF on behalf of Mike Hammett
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Date: Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 12:09 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Re
: Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:41 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
LEO competition to rural ISPs is real as long as they can get and manage the
frequency and thus far that seems pretty real at least for the first batch of
providers. I suspect at first
LEO competition to rural ISPs is real as long as they can get and manage
the frequency and thus far that seems pretty real at least for the first
batch of providers. I suspect at first that it should be a boon for wisps
looking to get backhaul. I know I would love to be able to drop a gig
"pipe"
On 4/18/19 09:16, Mike Hammett wrote:
I think most of it boils down to being under capitalized. They simply
didn't have the money to build the network they said they would. I fault
the cable companies and Intel for not putting up more funding.
Were they ever supposed to succeed, or was it
of telephone companies. They believed me.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:13 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
Most vendors severely over-promise their gear.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet
: "Bill Prince"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:05:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
That and that they hung their hat on WiMax (in the beginning).
bp
On 4/18/2019 8:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> It's hard to have a modest plan with LEOs. You need
The number of ways that clearwire failed was off the charts.
Personally I think it was a great success, at lining the pockets of the
original investors and screwing everyone after...
On 04/18/2019 09:05 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
That and that they hung their hat on WiMax (in the beginning).
bp
: Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:05:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
That and that they hung their hat on WiMax (in the beginning).
bp
On 4/18/2019 8:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> It's hard to have a modest plan with LEOs. You need lots of birds to
> have coverage. Clearwire's fa
That and that they hung their hat on WiMax (in the beginning).
bp
On 4/18/2019 8:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
It's hard to have a modest plan with LEOs. You need lots of birds to
have coverage. Clearwire's failing was a lack of funding for
significant coverage.
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*From: *"Adam Moffett"
*To: *af@af.afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:17:14 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
Google Fiber's trajectory runs parallel to other people we've probably
all met in this industry. With a surface level of knowledge everything
looks easy. T
On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
On 4/18/19 8:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> Google Fiber's trajectory runs parallel to other people we've probably
> all met in this industry. With a surface level of kno
On 4/18/19 8:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Google Fiber's trajectory runs parallel to other people we've probably
all met in this industry. With a surface level of knowledge everything
looks easy. Then they get into it and find out the easy parts they knew
about were like 10% of the story.
: "Adam Moffett"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:17:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
Google Fiber's trajectory runs parallel to other people we've probably all met
in this industry. With a surface level of knowledge everything looks easy. Then
?
*From:*AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2019 9:43 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
Visible antennas
Cost per mbps
Latency
I will keep my head in the sand.
*From:*dave
*Sent:*Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:15 AM
*To:*af@af.afmug.com
NA. NAna nana fingers in my ears LOL
On 4/18/19 9:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
PayPal
*From:* Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:53 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
Reminds me of Intel deciding not to sell 5G chips for smartphones
PayPal
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:53 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
Reminds me of Intel deciding not to sell 5G chips for smartphones and their
stock goes up, apparently investors feel they dodged a bullet.
Or Google Fiber
?
From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 9:43 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
Visible antennas
Cost per mbps
Latency
I will keep my head in the sand.
From: dave
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:15 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Visible antennas
Cost per mbps
Latency
I will keep my head in the sand.
From: dave
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:15 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
LOL... Yep..
On 4/18/19 9:05 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Well, well, well. Reality may be rearing its ugly head
I need thousands of
satellites
whizzing overhead 50 miles up? Seems like polar opposites, but
apparently
we gotta have 'em.
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 7:03 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
And one more
up? Seems like polar opposites, but apparently
we gotta have 'em.
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 7:03 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
And one more Indian anti-sat test to turn it all into chaff...
On 04/04
they are not the only
>> company doing this. OneWeb for example. SpaceX has the advantage of
>> having their own launch service and being able to piggyback on other
>> payloads.
>>
>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20,
Subject: [AFMUG] Real threat
Or is the sky
falling?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/7zqm2c/starlink_faq
Whoops. Wrong link: https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starlink-lawyers-oneweb-critique/
bp
On 3/20/2019 10:08 AM, Chuck McCown
wrote:
Or is the sky falling?
More grist for the mill:
https://www.teslarati.com/porsche-taycan-production-zuffenhausen-tour-insights/
If the story can be believed, there may be between 10 and 30
Starlink satellites in orbit in a few months.
bp
On 3/20/2019 10:08 AM, Chuck McCown
The timeline is way out there; first 800 satellites (basic
functionality) is not until 2022, and that is in Elon-time. If
past estimates are any guide, figure basic functionality in 2025.
It sounds a little scary though. 83 orbital planes in a bit over
200 km
they are not the only company doing this. OneWeb
for example. SpaceX has the advantage of having their own launch service
and being able to piggyback on other payloads.
From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 12:09 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Real
Or is the sky falling?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/7zqm2c/starlink_faq/--
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