there seems to be a lot of that in
>>> the world these days. The element of human greed or the feeling that
>>> someone is getting more because of avoidance of rules and such is part of
>>> the human experience. Communism certainly proved that.
>>>
>>>
that in
>> the world these days. The element of human greed or the feeling that
>> someone is getting more because of avoidance of rules and such is part of
>> the human experience. Communism certainly proved that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Brian Webs
ailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 3:28 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
>
>
>
> I agree, 3 people totally fucked-up, but I suspect there is a 4th person
> who put the live ammo i
Thursday, December 2, 2021 12:44 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
>>
>> thats what the armorers attorney is saying.
>> That doesnt change any of the culpabilities though, it just adds another
>> person to the list
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
I agree, 3 people totally fucked-up, but I suspect there is a
4th person who put the live ammo in the gun. Just because 3
f'ed-up, doesn't make them less responsible, I think these
people should get
Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
thats what the armorers attorney is
saying.
That doesnt change any of the culpabi
nly proved that.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian Webster
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 3:28 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
>
>
>
> I agree,
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 12:44 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
>
> thats what the armorers attorney is saying.
> That doesnt change any of the culpabilities though, it just
.
Communism certainly proved that.
Thank you,
Brian Webster
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 3:28 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
I agree, 3 people totally fucked-up, but I suspect there is a 4th
ld she have been put in jail?
Accidents
>> happen.
>> The family has civil remedies because money is the only
thing the
>> legal system can do to attempt to make one whole.
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>&g
Steve, I think you ought to consider a career in in the US Foreign Service.
Perhaps at the US rep to the UN. Diplomacy is a hard commodity to come by...
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 12:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
:
>> >>
>> >> So, what does jail time fix? A deterrent? Sending a message? A
>> >> spanking for bad humans?
>> >> This was an accident. My wife wrecked a car 20 years ago and one
>> >> of my sons died. Should she have
been put in jail? Accidents
>> happen.
>> The family has civil remedies because money is the only
thing the
>> legal system can do to attempt to make one whole.
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 10
That was my first thought. There were reports of disgruntled staff abandoning
the project in the days prior.
From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 12:34 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
Yes. I could give Baldwin a pass
cked a car 20
years ago and one
>> of my sons died. Should she have been put in
jail? Accidents
>> happen.
>> The family has civil remedies because money is
the only thing the
>> legal system can do
> of my sons died. Should she have been put in jail? Accidents
> >> happen.
> >> The family has civil remedies because money is the only thing the
> >> legal system can do to attempt to make one whole.
> >> *From:* Steve Jones
> >>
On 12/2/21 9:38 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
It would be so “easy” to just add firearms with CGI I would think. Just
have them hold a 3D printed replica that is bright green and replace it
with post editing work.
Just have everyone use walkie talkies instead of guns.
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nly thing the
legal system can do to attempt to make one whole.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:43 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
firearm safety is a universal applied universally to
al system can do to attempt to make one whole.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:43 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
firearm safety is a universal applied universally to firearms.
There is no differ
only thing the legal
> system can do to attempt to make one whole.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:43 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
>
> firearm safety is a universal applied universal
appen.
>
> The family has civil remedies because money is the only thing the legal
> system can do to attempt to make one whole.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:43 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec
Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
firearm safety is a universal applied universally to firearms. There
is no different level of safety for different people. A firearms
inherent danger doesnt lessen depending on where its used (maybe
around flammable gasses). I hate cop
>
> *From:* Daniel White
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:11 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
>
> I'm nervous around anyone with a firearm because on principle I trust no
> one. I trust no firearm is unloaded unle
, December 2, 2021 10:11 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
I'm nervous around anyone with a firearm because on principle I trust
no one. I trust no firearm is unloaded unless I maintain possession
and cleared it myself. Active Duty/former military
the legal system
can do to attempt to make one whole.
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:43 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
firearm safety is a universal applied universally to firearms. There is no
different level of safety
expecting me to wave it
> around in the general direction of people and me not checking it first. I
> would never trust someone’s word on that.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 8:28 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
editing work.
*From:* Daniel White
*Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:11 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
I'm nervous around anyone with a firearm because on principle I trust
no one. I trust no firearm is unloaded unless I maintain possession
me a firearm expecting me to wave it
around in the general direction of people and me not checking it first. I
would never trust someone’s word on that.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 8:28 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
From where
expecting me to wave it
> around in the general direction of people and me not checking it first. I
> would never trust someone’s word on that.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 2, 2021 8:28 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Bald
t is possible to be extra easy to touch off.
>
> I just cannot imagine someone handing me a firearm expecting me to
> wave it around in the general direction of people and me not checking
> it first. I would never trust someone’s word on that.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
&g
on that.
From: Bill
Prince
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 8:28 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
From where I'm sitting there had
It was a revolver so the hammer would probably have been down so it
couldn't have just gone off. If it was cocked then that could be a
different story.
Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I would think every actor that has to use a gun should have to get
trained to the point they know they are the
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Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 8:55:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
Amazing how less dead that lady would be if this guy wasnt handling a magic
gun pointing it at people on a scene that had no call to point at people in an
industry where you dont point firearms at
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From: "Steve Jones"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 8:55:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
Amazing how less dead that lady would be if this guy wasnt handling a magic gun
pointing it at people
I think you are referring to an older model of Taurus.
Steve Jones wrote:
thats not what the camera operators lawsuit states.
Hes doind everything to deflect from his culpability.
Doesnt help his case that other big name actors have already called
him out for his personal disregard for
Other than where neccessary for visual reasons, why wouldnt they be bright
orange or something like that?
Most places it's a crime to have a real firearm with an orange tip, why
doesnt that apply to ammo?
With the leanings of hollywood, I'm actually suprised this isnt more
common, I assume most
“ revolver”
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 1, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> I would think every actor that has to use a gun should have to get trained
> to the point they know they are the last chance to catch something like this.
> And are going to shoulder the blame.
It was a rehearsal but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t rolling
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 1, 2021, at 8:41 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
>
>
> If the camera was rolling, we'd have the shot on film. Was the camera
> rolling?
>
>> On 12/1/21 19:10, Bill Prince wrote:
>> Yeah. When you're acting, you
I would think every actor that has to use a gun should have to get trained to
the point they know they are the last chance to catch something like this. And
are going to shoulder the blame. Only takes a second to see what you have in
the gun.
Dummy’s look like real rounds but the primers are
If the camera was rolling, we'd have the shot on film. Was the camera
rolling?
On 12/1/21 19:10, Bill Prince wrote:
Yeah. When you're acting, you have to do what the "act" calls for.
There were failures here, but we can not really know from here what
actually happened. Hopefully, people in
thats not what the camera operators lawsuit states.
Hes doind everything to deflect from his culpability.
Doesnt help his case that other big name actors have already called him out
for his personal disregard for standards of safety, including the guild
rules that firearms are never pointed at
Yeah. When you're acting, you have to do what the "act" calls for. There
were failures here, but we can not really know from here what actually
happened. Hopefully, people in the investigation will be able to make a
reasonable determination.
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On Wed, Dec 1, 2021
The scene called for pointing the gun at the camera, and he did what the scene
called for
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 1, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
>
> Amazing how less dead that lady would be if this guy wasnt handling a magic
> gun pointing it at people on a scene that had
Amazing how less dead that lady would be if this guy wasnt handling a magic
gun pointing it at people on a scene that had no call to point at people in
an industry where you dont point firearms at people with a firearm you dont
point at anything youre not prepared to destroy... but sure, he didnt
I have a few heirloom antique 22 cal rifles. Nothing against guns but I don’t
own a handgun. I have historically had a very short fuse and quick to fight.
I have mellowed with age but I still don’t want to give myself that option.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 1, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Jaime
My dad was USMC sniper...he loved to hunt and taught my brothers and me how
to shoot rifles and hand guns...my youngest brother had the best aim...he
took us hunting...thus is back in mid 1960s to 1972...folks divorced ..
None of us own gunswe prefer fishing and crossbows...
Only one who ever
It was the Remington 700 rifle.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/popular-remington-700-rifle-linked-to-potentially-deadly-defects/
bp
On 12/1/2021 4:10 PM, Bill Prince
wrote:
There was a big to-do about a (Remington?) shotgun or rifle (I
There was a big to-do about a (Remington?) shotgun or rifle (I
don't remember the actual make or type) a few years back that had
a defective trigger mechanism. A boy accidentally shot his brother
and went through years of hell because he was accused of shooting
He is saying he did not pull the trigger. My first instinct was “yeah right”.
But I had to remind myself that I had a rifle go off all on its own once when I
was about 13. It was pointed at the ground. Stock was under my right arm. I
was walking. My hand was no where near the trigger.
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